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Professor C said that they abandoned the lapel because they couldn't find a point where they would get a good quality sound without interference, although it seemed that the lapel was a good option, because there were some sounds that were worse heard with this microphone than with the lapel.", + "title": "Microphone Quality", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 3, + 30 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "microphone issues", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "PhD A asked if they were using a wireless microphone and PhD F said yes. Professor C said they abandoned the lapel because they couldn't find a good spot where they would get good quality sound without interference or background noise. Either way, you could argue that the lapel was a good choice, because it was in the middle, because there were some sounds like little mouth clicks and breaths that were worse with this mic than with the lapel. PhD F said that the microphone number was written on the back of the unit and that the channel number should be one less than what was written on the back, so it should be zero.", + "title": "Microphone Quality", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 3, + 30 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "computational resources", + "speaker": "PhD F" + }, + "summary": "PhD F reported that they placed an order for 12 new machines to use as a compute farm, although they did not know when they would arrive. The farm would have a number of utilities that would make it very easy to run things using P-make and Customs. PhD F explained that there was a command called \"run-command\" with which the system would find the fastest way to run the job on an available machine, exporting the job there and duplicating the environment. Each machine that would be part of the network would have associated attributes about the amount of memory on the machine, its speed, and the operating system, so that when they used the run command, those attributes could be specified. If there was a job running on the machine you were trying to select, your job would be queued and then when the resource or machine became available, your job would be exported there. Grad G asked what if they had thousands of little jobs to do. PhD F said that they could write a script called run-command for each sub-job, but that they shouldn't run more than 10 jobs at a time because they could saturate the network and delay other people's work. PhD F said it was possible to use the run command in this case, but the program wouldn't know that other tasks were running, instead, if you wrote a P-make file, you could define how many tasks there would be and how many machines could be used simultaneously. Professor C asked why to use the make command instead of P-make. PhD F said that if you didn't want to write a P-make script and someone was using the machine you normally use, you could use \"run-command\" and the program would find the best available machine and run your work there. Professor C asked if anyone could stop the work of that machine by pressing a button. PhD F said that some machines in the institute had an attribute called \"no evict\", and if specified, the job would go to a machine that would not be evicted from its work, because although work would restart on another machine automatically if someone evicted it, it may be a waste of time. Professor C asked what if someone worked from home and needed to evict work from their computer to use it, but needed someone to press a key to be able to do it. PhD F said Andreas did something about it. Professor C said you could ask Andreas.", + "title": "Compute Farm Utilities", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 39, + 50 + ], + [ + 52, + 57 + ], + 59, + [ + 62, + 71 + ], + [ + 79, + 96 + ], + [ + 98, + 105 + ], + [ + 108, + 110 + ], + [ + 113, + 118 + ], + [ + 129, + 137 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "computational resources", + "speaker": "PhD F" + }, + "summary": "PhD F reported that they ordered 12 new machines to use as a compute farm with P-make and Customs. Each machine would have associated attributes on its characteristics in order to be specified. PhD F explained that there was a command called \"run-command\" with which the system would find the fastest way to run the job on an available machine, though it wouldn't know if there were concurrent jobs, but with a P-make file, you could define the number of tasks and machines that could be used simultaneously. PhD F added that they should not run more than 10 jobs at a time to avoid saturating the network and creating delays, because if there was one job running, the next one would be queued. Professor C asked if someone could stop the work by pressing a button. PhD F said that some machines have an attribute where they cannot be evicted. Professor C asked if a button needed to be pressed to evict work from the computer, in case someone worked from home. PhD F said that Andreas did something about it.", + "title": "Compute Farm Utilities", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 39, + 50 + ], + [ + 52, + 57 + ], + 59, + [ + 62, + 71 + ], + [ + 79, + 96 + ], + [ + 98, + 105 + ], + [ + 108, + 110 + ], + [ + 113, + 118 + ], + [ + 129, + 137 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "workshop", + "speaker": "Professor" + }, + "summary": "Grad G asked what would happen if they had thousands of small jobs to do, and PhD F said that they should not run more than 10 jobs at a time, so as not to saturate the network and delay the work of others. Professor C gave the example of the Rutgers or Hopkins shop, where they became much less efficient because 25 people were sending things to all the machines at the same time, and that was slower than even each having their own computer.", + "title": "Rutgers or Hopkins Workshop", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 57, + 76 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "workshop", + "speaker": "Professor" + }, + "summary": "Professor C; the Rutgers or Hopkins workshop; everybody was real excited cuz they got twenty-five machines and there was some kind of P-make; sit sent things out; things were a lot less efficient than if you'd just use your own machine.", + "title": "Rutgers or Hopkins Workshop", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 57, + 76 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "attributes", + "speaker": "PhD F" + }, + "summary": "PhD F said that each machine that would be part of the P-make and Customs network would have associated attributes about its amount of memory, its speed, the operating system, and even the name of each machine, so using \"run command\" would specify those attributes. This could balance the load of the machines. Professor C asked if someone could come and press a key to stop work on a given machine. PhD F said that some of the machines in the institute had an attribute called \"don't evict\", and if you specified that in one of your attribute lines, you would go to a machine that won't have your work evicted.", + "title": "Attributes", + "relevant_turns": [ + 52, + [ + 102, + 107 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "attributes", + "speaker": "PhD F" + }, + "summary": "PhD F said that each machine that would be part of the P-make and Customs network would have associated attributes like how much memory, speed, operating system, or name the machine had, even if the machine could be evicted, so when you used something like \"run-command\" you could specify those attributes for your program.", + "title": "Attributes", + "relevant_turns": [ + 52, + [ + 102, + 107 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "command", + "speaker": "PhD F" + }, + "summary": "PhD F said that there was a command called \"execute command\", with which the system would find the fastest way to execute the job on the best available machine based on the given attributes. Grad G asked what they would do with the run command if they had a lot of work to do. PhD F said that they could write a script called execute command in each child job, but be careful not to run more than 10 jobs at a time so as not to saturate the network. PhD D asked if jobs that were released would be queued. PhD F said that if you use \"run command\" the system doesn't know if something else was running, because it's meant to run one job at a time, but with P-make the system would know of all the jobs to run and how many runs simultaneously. Professor C asked why use \"execute command\" instead of P-make. PhD F said that if you didn't want to write a P-make script and someone was using the machine you normally use, you could say \"run command\" and the system would find the largest available machine to run the job on.", + "title": "Run Command", + "relevant_turns": [ + 52, + 57, + 59, + [ + 62, + 70 + ], + [ + 90, + 96 + ], + [ + 98, + 101 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "command", + "speaker": "PhD F" + }, + "summary": "PhD F said there was a command they could use called \"run-command\" where the system would find the fastest available machine to export your job to that machine, and run it there duplicating your environment. Each machine on the network has attributes associated with its own characteristics, and when you use something like \"run command\", you could specify those attributes for your program. Grad G asked what they would do with \"run command\" if they had a thousand little jobs to do. PhD F said that they could write a script which called run command on each sub-job. Grad G asked if that would be necessary a thousand times. PhD F said yes, but you should probably not run more than ten jobs yourself at any one time, because it would just bring everything to a halt and people's jobs would get delayed. To do this, you would need to put some logic to use \"run command\" to only have ten of those going at a time. PhD D asked if released jobs would be systematically queued for execution. PhD F said it depends, if you use \"run command\" the system doesn't know about other things that you might be running, because it's meant to run one job at a time, but if you use P-make, the system would know about all the jobs which it has to run and how many to run simultaneously. Professor C asked why use \"execute command\" rather than P-make. PhD F said that if you didn't want to write a P-make script and somebody's using the machine you typically use, you could say \"run command\" and the system would find the fastest currently available machine and run your job there.", + "title": "Run Command", + "relevant_turns": [ + 52, + 57, + 59, + [ + 62, + 70 + ], + [ + 90, + 96 + ], + [ + 98, + 101 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "new machines", + "speaker": "PhD F" + }, + "summary": "PhD F wanted to update the group on some computing things that were going on. PhD F said that they ordered 12 new machines to use as a compute farm, plus some SUN-blade 100s, although they didn't know how long it would take to arrive, but these would have a number of little utilities that would make it very easy to run things using P-make and Customs, so you wouldn't have to write P-make scripts and stuff. With all the new machines installed, they would have a lot more compute to use.", + "title": "New Computers", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 42, + 46 + ], + 52 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "new machines", + "speaker": "PhD F" + }, + "summary": "PhD F; just put in an order for about twelve new machines, to use as sort of a compute farm; ordered SUN-Blade-one-hundreds; Andreas; got a number of little utilities that make it very easy to run things using P-make and Customs.", + "title": "New Computers", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 42, + 46 + ], + 52 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "available machine", + "speaker": "PhD F" + }, + "summary": "PhD F said there was a command called \"run-command\" that you could use in conjunction with some job you wanted to run, and the program would find the fastest machine available and export your job to that machine to run by duplicating its environment. Each machine that would be part of the P-make and Customs network would have attributes about its characteristics and even its name, so that when you ran the command, you could specify those attributes and thereby control where your jobs go, to a certain extent, all the way down to an individual machine. If there was already a job running, on some machine you were trying to select, your job would be queued and then when that machine became available, your job would be exported there. This would help balance the workload of all the machines.", + "title": "Available Machines", + "relevant_turns": [ + 52, + 101 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "available machine", + "speaker": "PhD F" + }, + "summary": "PhD F; there's a command that you can use called \"run command\"; if you say that and then some job that you want to execute, it will find the fastest currently available machine, and export your job to that machine and run it there and it'll duplicate your environment. If there's already a job running, on some machine that you're trying to select, your job will get queued up, and then when that resource, that machine becomes available, your job will get exported there.", + "title": "Available Machines", + "relevant_turns": [ + 52, + 101 + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "Professor C : Uh , is it the twenty - fourth ?", + "PhD F : now we 're on .", + "Professor C : Yeah .", + "PhD A : Uh Chuck , is the mike type wireless {disfmarker}", + "PhD F : Yes .", + "PhD A : wireless headset ? OK .", + "PhD F : Yes .", + "Professor C : Yeah .", + "PhD F : For you it is .", + "Professor C : Yeah . We uh {disfmarker} we abandoned the lapel because they sort of were not too {disfmarker} not too hot , not too cold , they were {disfmarker} you know , they were {vocalsound} uh , far enough away that you got more background noise , uh , and uh {disfmarker} and so forth", + "PhD A : Uh - huh .", + "Professor C : but they weren't so close that they got quite the {disfmarker} you know , the really good {disfmarker} No , th", + "PhD A : OK .", + "Professor C : they {disfmarker} I mean they didn't {disfmarker} Wait a minute . I 'm saying that wrong . They were not so far away that they were really good representative distant mikes ,", + "PhD A : Uh - huh .", + "Professor C : but on the other hand they were not so close that they got rid of all the interference . So it was no {disfmarker} didn't seem to be a good point to them . On the other hand if you only had to have one mike in some ways you could argue the lapel was a good choice , precisely because it 's in the middle .", + "PhD A : Yeah , yeah .", + "Professor C : There 's uh , some kinds of junk that you get with these things that you don't get with the lapel uh , little mouth clicks and breaths and so forth are worse with these than with the lapel , but given the choice we {disfmarker} there seemed to be very strong opinions for uh , getting rid of lapels .", + "PhD A : The mike number is {disfmarker}", + "Professor C : So ,", + "PhD F : Uh , your mike number 's written on the back of that unit there .", + "PhD A : Oh yeah . One .", + "PhD F : And then the channel number 's usually one less than that .", + "PhD A : Oh , OK . OK .", + "PhD F : It - it 's one less than what 's written on the back of your {disfmarker}", + "PhD A : OK . OK .", + "PhD F : yeah . So you should be zero , actually .", + "PhD A : Hello ? Yeah .", + "PhD F : For your uh , channel number .", + "PhD A : Yep , yep .", + "Professor C : And you should do a lot of talking so we get a lot more of your pronunciations . no , they don't {disfmarker} don't have a {disfmarker} have any Indian pronunciations .", + "PhD F : So what we usually do is um , we typically will have our meetings", + "Professor C : Yeah .", + "PhD F : and then at the end of the meetings we 'll read the digits . Everybody goes around and reads the digits on the {disfmarker} the bottom of their forms .", + "Professor C : Session R", + "PhD D : R - nineteen ?", + "PhD A : OK .", + "Professor C : R - nineteen .", + "PhD F : Yeah . We 're {disfmarker} This is session R - nineteen .", + "Professor C : If you say so . O K . Do we have anything like an agenda ? What 's going on ? Um . I guess um . So . One thing {disfmarker}", + "PhD F : Sunil 's here for the summer ?", + "Professor C : Sunil 's here for the summer , right . Um , so , one thing is to talk about a kick off meeting maybe uh , and then just uh , I guess uh , progress reports individually , and then uh , plans for where we go between now and then , pretty much . Um .", + "PhD F : I could say a few words about um , some of the uh , compute stuff that 's happening around here , so that people in the group know .", + "Professor C : Mm - hmm . OK . Why don't you start with that ? That 's sort of {disfmarker}", + "PhD F : OK .", + "Professor C : Yeah ?", + "PhD F : We um {disfmarker} So we just put in an order for about twelve new machines , uh , to use as sort of a compute farm . And um , uh , we ordered uh , SUN - Blade - one - hundreds , and um , I 'm not sure exactly how long it 'll take for those to come in , but , uh , in addition , we 're running {disfmarker} So the plan for using these is , uh , we 're running P - make and Customs here and Andreas has sort of gotten that all uh , fixed up and up to speed . And he 's got a number of little utilities that make it very easy to um , {vocalsound} run things using P - make and Customs . You don't actually have to write P - make scripts and things like that . The simplest thing {disfmarker} And I can send an email around or , maybe I should do an FAQ on the web site about it or something . Um ,", + "Professor C : How about an email that points to the FAQ ,", + "PhD F : there 's a c", + "Professor C : you know what I 'm saying ?", + "PhD F : Yeah , yeah .", + "Professor C : so that you can {disfmarker} Yeah .", + "PhD F : Uh , there 's a command , uh , that you can use called \" run command \" . \" Run dash command \" , \" run hyphen command \" . And , if you say that and then some job that you want to execute , uh , it will find the fastest currently available machine , and export your job to that machine , and uh {disfmarker} and run it there and it 'll duplicate your environment . So you can try this as a simple test with uh , the L S command . So you can say \" run dash command L S \" , and , um , it 'll actually export that {vocalsound} LS command to some machine in the institute , and um , do an LS on your current directory . So , substitute LS for whatever command you want to run , and um {disfmarker} And that 's a simple way to get started using {disfmarker} using this . And , so , soon , when we get all the new machines up , {vocalsound} um , e then we 'll have lots more compute to use . Now th one of the nice things is that uh , each machine that 's part of the P - make and Customs network has attributes associated with it . Uh , attributes like how much memory the machine has , what its speed is , what its operating system , and when you use something like \" run command \" , you can specify those attributes for your program . For example if you only want your thing to run under Linux , you can give it the Linux attribute , and then it will find the fastest available Linux machine and run it on that . So . You can control where your jobs go , to a certain extent , all the way down to an individual machine . Each machine has an attribute which is the name of itself . So you can give that as an attribute and it 'll only run on that . If there 's already a job running , on some machine that you 're trying to select , your job will get queued up , and then when that resource , that machine becomes available , your job will get exported there . So , there 's a lot of nice features to it and it kinda helps to balance the load of the machines and uh , right now Andreas and I have been the main ones using it and we 're {disfmarker} Uh . The SRI recognizer has all this P - make customs stuff built into it .", + "Professor C : So as I understand , you know , he 's using all the machines and you 're using all the machines ,", + "PhD F : So .", + "Professor C : is the rough division of {disfmarker}", + "PhD F : Yeah . Exactly . Yeah , you know , I {disfmarker} I sort of got started {comment} using the recognizer just recently and uh , uh I fired off a training job , and then I fired off a recognition job and I get this email about midnight from Andreas saying , \" uh , are you running two {vocalsound} trainings simultaneously s my m my jobs are not getting run . \" So I had to back off a little bit . But , soon as we get some more machines then uh {disfmarker} then we 'll have more compute available . So , um , that 's just a quick update about what we 've got . So .", + "Grad G : Um , I have {disfmarker} I have a question about the uh , parallelization ?", + "PhD F : Mm - hmm .", + "Grad G : So , um , let 's say I have like , a thousand little {disfmarker} little jobs to do ?", + "PhD F : Mm - hmm .", + "Grad G : Um , how do I do it with \" run command \" ? I mean do {disfmarker}", + "PhD F : You could write a script uh , which called run command on each sub - job", + "Grad G : Uh - huh . A thousand times ?", + "PhD F : right ? But you probably wanna be careful with that", + "Grad G : OK .", + "PhD F : because um , you don't wanna saturate the network . Uh , so , um , you know , you should {disfmarker} you should probably not run more than , say ten jobs yourself at any one time , uh , just because then it would keep other people {disfmarker}", + "Grad G : Oh , too much file transfer and stuff .", + "PhD F : Well it 's not that so much as that , you know , e with {disfmarker} if everybody ran fifty jobs at once then it would just bring everything to a halt and , you know , people 's jobs would get delayed , so it 's sort of a sharing thing . Um ,", + "Grad G : OK .", + "PhD F : so you should try to limit it to somet sometim some number around ten jobs at a time . Um . So if you had a script for example that had a thousand things it needed to run , um , you 'd somehow need to put some logic in there if you were gonna use \" run command \" , uh , to only have ten of those going at a time . And uh , then , when one of those finished you 'd fire off another one . Um ,", + "Professor C : I remember I {disfmarker} I forget whether it was when the Rutgers or {disfmarker} or Hopkins workshop , I remember one of the workshops I was at there were {disfmarker} everybody was real excited cuz they got twenty - five machines and there was some kind of P - make like thing that sit sent things out .", + "PhD F : Mm - hmm . Mm - hmm .", + "Professor C : So all twenty - five people were sending things to all twenty - five machines", + "PhD F : Mm - hmm . Yeah .", + "Professor C : and {vocalsound} and things were a lot less efficient than if you 'd just use your own machine .", + "PhD F : Yeah . Yep . Yeah , exactly . Yeah , you have to be a little bit careful .", + "Professor C : as I recall , but . Yeah .", + "PhD D : Hmm .", + "PhD F : Um , but uh , you can also {disfmarker} If you have that level of parallelization um , and you don't wanna have to worry about writing the logic in {disfmarker} in a Perl script to take care of that , you can use um , P - make", + "Grad G : Just do P - make .", + "PhD F : and {disfmarker} and you basically write a Make file that uh , you know your final job depends on these one thousand things ,", + "Grad G : s Mm - hmm .", + "PhD F : and when you run P - make , uh , on your Make file , you can give it the dash capital J and {disfmarker} and then a number ,", + "Grad G : Mm - hmm .", + "PhD F : and that number represents how many uh , machines to use at once . And then it 'll make sure that it never goes above that .", + "Grad G : Right .", + "PhD F : So ,", + "Grad G : Right . OK .", + "PhD F : I can get some documentation .", + "PhD D : So it {disfmarker} it 's {disfmarker} it 's not systematically queued . I mean all the jobs are running . If you launch twenty jobs , they are all running . Alright .", + "PhD F : It depends . If you {disfmarker} \" Run command \" , that I mentioned before , is {disfmarker} doesn't know about other things that you might be running .", + "PhD D : Uh - huh .", + "PhD F : So , it would be possible to run a hundred run jobs at once ,", + "PhD D : Right .", + "PhD F : and they wouldn't know about each other . But if you use P - make , then , it knows about all the jobs that it has to run", + "PhD D : Mm - hmm .", + "PhD F : and it can control , uh , how many it runs simultaneously .", + "Professor C : So \" run command \" doesn't use P - make , or {disfmarker} ?", + "PhD F : It uses \" export \" underlyingly . But , if you {disfmarker} i It 's meant to be run one job at a time ? So you could fire off a thousand of those , and it doesn't know {disfmarker} any one of those doesn't know about the other ones that are running .", + "Professor C : So why would one use that rather than P - make ?", + "PhD F : Well , if you have , um {disfmarker} Like , for example , uh if you didn't wanna write a P - make script and you just had a , uh {disfmarker} an HTK training job that you know is gonna take uh , six hours to run , and somebody 's using , uh , the machine you typically use , you can say \" run command \" and your HTK thing and it 'll find another machine , the fastest currently available machine and {disfmarker} and run your job there .", + "Professor C : Now , does it have the same sort of behavior as P - make , which is that , you know , if you run something on somebody 's machine and they come in and hit a key then it {disfmarker}", + "PhD F : Yes . Yeah , there are um {disfmarker} Right . So some of the machines at the institute , um , have this attribute called \" no evict \" . And if you specify that , in {disfmarker} in one of your attribute lines , then it 'll go to a machine which your job won't be evicted from .", + "Professor C : Mm - hmm .", + "PhD F : But , the machines that don't have that attribute , if a job gets fired up on that , which could be somebody 's desktop machine , and {disfmarker} and they were at lunch ,", + "Professor C : Mm - hmm .", + "PhD F : they come back from lunch and they start typing on the console , then your machine will get evicted {disfmarker} your job {comment} will get evicted from their machine and be restarted on another machine . Automatically . So {disfmarker} which can cause you to lose time , right ? If you had a two hour job , and it got halfway through and then somebody came back to their machine and it got evicted . So . If you don't want your job to run on a machine where it could be evicted , then you give it the minus {disfmarker} the attribute , you know , \" no evict \" , and it 'll pick a machine that it can't be evicted from . So .", + "Professor C : Um , what {disfmarker} what about {disfmarker} I remember always used to be an issue , maybe it 's not anymore , that if you {disfmarker} if something required {disfmarker} if your machine required somebody hitting a key in order to evict things that are on it so you could work , but if you were logged into it from home ?", + "PhD F : Mm - hmm .", + "Professor C : and you weren't hitting any keys ? cuz you were , home ?", + "PhD F : Yeah , I {disfmarker} I 'm not sure how that works .", + "Professor C : Yeah .", + "PhD F : Uh , it seems like Andreas did something for that .", + "Professor C : Hmm .", + "PhD F : Um .", + "Professor C : OK . We can ask him sometime .", + "PhD F : But {disfmarker} Yeah . I don't know whether it monitors the keyboard or actually looks at the console TTY , so maybe if you echoed something to the you know , dev {disfmarker} dev console or something .", + "Professor C : You probably wouldn't ordinarily , though . Yeah . Right ? You probably wouldn't ordinarily .", + "PhD F : Hmm ?", + "Professor C : I mean you sort of {disfmarker} you 're at home and you 're trying to log in , and it takes forever to even log you in , and you probably go , \" screw this \" ,", + "PhD F : Yeah , yeah .", + "Professor C : and {disfmarker} {vocalsound} You know .", + "PhD F : Yeah . Yeah , so , um ,", + "Professor C : Yeah .", + "PhD F : yeah . I {disfmarker} I can {disfmarker} I 'm not sure about that one .", + "Professor C : yeah .", + "PhD F : But uh .", + "Professor C : OK .", + "PhD A : Uh , I need a little orientation about this environment and uh scr s how to run some jobs here because I never d did anything so far with this X emissions", + "PhD F : OK .", + "PhD A : So , I think maybe I 'll ask you after the meeting .", + "PhD F : Um . Yeah . Yeah , and {disfmarker} and also uh , Stephane 's a {disfmarker} a really good resource for that if you can't find me .", + "PhD A : Yeah , yeah , yeah . Yep . OK , sure", + "PhD D : Mmm .", + "PhD F : Especially with regard to the Aurora stuff .", + "PhD A : OK .", + "PhD F : He {disfmarker} he knows that stuff better than I do .", + "Professor C : OK . Well , why don't we uh , uh , Sunil since you 're {vocalsound} haven't {disfmarker} haven't been at one of these yet , why don't yo you tell us what 's {disfmarker} what 's up with you ? Wh - what you 've been up to , hopefully ." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "train", + "file_id": 20, + "turns": [ + 25, + 62 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "environmental-friendly , material", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Industrial Designer said that they should consider the environmental impact of their design and that they would have used better materials like specific alloys of metals with shape memory so they could be separated and be recycled easily because they did have to be very environmentally conscious. 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After that, the Project Manager liked the environmental approach and had to see if that could meet their financial goals as well.", + "title": "Industrial Designer and Project Manager Talking About the Possible Environmental-Friendly Material", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 0, + 3 + ], + 26 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "quality machinery", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer" + }, + "summary": "Industrial Designer thought that the shape-memory alloys could need high contact, high-quality machinery, and specific machinery. 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Um , another thing I think we d missed out on on the last meeting was the fact that we should consider the environmental impact of our design . Um , from previous researches I've carried out on other projects , um we've learnt about smart materials where um um specific alloys of metals have a shape memory .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : So they can be heated and um and cooled , and they change the shape of um the metal . So , for example , a screw that's holding something together could expand and it would force all the components apart . So um , the benefits of this for our product would be that when it came to the end of its product life , if it was heated , um everything would spring apart . So , all the um individual components could be easily separated , and then some could be reused , some could be recycled , and I think that would be very important for products now . Especially 'cause there's much uh responsibility for all the um companies who are coming up with like new designs . 'Cause all , we all know that our resources are being limited , and we have to be very environmentally conscious .", + "Project Manager : Right , um , one question . This , um , self-destructible uh metal , it allows for recycling materials ?", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : So that , um , someone could have this product for as long as they felt that they wanted it , and then once they contribute it , then that company can break down the part , the parts better ?", + "Industrial Designer : Um {disfmarker} And then {disfmarker} Yeah . Yeah they would , um you would make the , the product as you normally would , apart from the , the bits that hold it all together would be made out of this shape-memory alloy . And that's the part that would um allow all the other parts to be separated at the end . I mean , the user would return the p product to the company , 'cause it's the product's responsibility to get rid of what they've made . Um , and then the company could then just use , make use of this shape-memory alloys to split up the components ,", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : and then either reuse some bits , and other bits which are obviously gonna wear out with time , or not usable , they might be like be able to put into scrap metal . Something like the case , if it's scratched or something , you would want to reuse it , but you might be able to melt it down and reuse it again somewhere else .", + "Project Manager : Mm-hmm . Would we be the company that would break down these , or uh metals ? Or would we contribute to another group ?", + "Industrial Designer : You could {disfmarker} we could probably empl em employ a , a side company or something to do that for us . But it would be our responsibility to get that done and to dispose of the products that we made . For a certain percentage at least .", + "Project Manager : Alright .", + "Industrial Designer : Not every , not a hundred percent of everything we produce ,", + "Project Manager : Okay . This sounds like a really great idea .", + "Industrial Designer : but {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : One thing we have to consider is our uh one hundred percent um turnover goal that we have for our financial sector .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah . Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Um , so we'll have to investigate how much that will cost us , cost the company ,", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : um 'cause it sounds very labour-intensive . You would have to hire a number of people , and it might be more expensive .", + "Industrial Designer : Well I {disfmarker} the fact of the shape-memory alloys is that they , they don't need to be manually de um deconstructed . Like , you don't have to individually um unscrew all the screws . Because of this , their properties are smart material .", + "Project Manager : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : All you need is just the heat , so they self-destruct themselves .", + "Project Manager : Alright . We'll still have to investigate the financial implications .", + "Industrial Designer : So I suppose it does need like high contact , yeah , you know high uh quality machinery , and very specific machinery , but {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Alright . I like the environmental approach . Um , we'll have to see if that can meet our financial goals as well .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah . Okay . Um also there is um components . This'll be how it uh will actually work . But I haven't put this plan together yet .", + "Project Manager : I'm sorry , could you {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : There we go", + "Project Manager : Those were um {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : . Sorry , should I go back . This would actually show the circuit diagram . Although I haven't come up with the final circuit yet .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "Industrial Designer : So I just {gap} put all those components in .", + "Project Manager : So those are what , um , we'll c construct the remote . Those are all the {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah . I it just shows what sort of energy source . It could be a battery , like rechargeable probably . Um , an' yeah , well how the infrared will actually be sent through the chip to be received by the chip on the television set itself .", + "Project Manager : Alright . Great .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay ? So , now is it F_ eight again to escape ? Or escape ? There we go . Okay ." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "train", + "file_id": 3, + "turns": [ + 54, + 70 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "fee , access plans", + "speaker": "Hefin David AM" + }, + "summary": "Hefin David AM was concerned that neither the regulator nor the sector seemed to have any confidence in the fee and access plans, the process and bureaucratic nature of the way fee and access plans were presented didn't work even four years on. They were still being evaluated. Hefin David AM was also concerned that fee and access plans were an issue that required deep consultation and discussion that wasn't known to be underway or not.", + "title": "Discussion on Fee and Access Plans", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 1, + 2 + ], + [ + 7, + 11 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "fee , access plans", + "speaker": "Hefin David AM" + }, + "summary": "Hefin David AM asked about Kirsty Williams AM's concern because neither the regulator nor the sector seemed to have any confidence in fee and access plans, Kirsty Williams AM recognized the importance of a fee and access plan, as well as the opportunity to do that in forthcoming legislation. Hefin David AM was concerned if Kirsty Williams AM had had further dialogue with key stakeholders like, for example, Universities Wales and others. Hefin David AM said that fee and access plan were an issue that needed deep consultation and asked about having a further discussion. Hefin David AM said that there was no evidence to suggest that further direct consultation with stakeholders had happened or not since the summer of 2018.", + "title": "Concerns About Fee and Access Plans", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 1, + 2 + ], + [ + 7, + 11 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "bill", + "speaker": "Hefin David AM , Huw Morris" + }, + "summary": "Hefin David AM confirmed that they were talking about the future of the Bill and then asked if further dialogue with key stakeholders had been had since the summer of 2018. Huw Morris added that the Minister had outlined that there was a very extensive, ongoing communication both ways with the sector, but the challenge of preparing a Bill was the balancing act between gathering information and making stated that the Bill laid next year hadn't been discussed with anybody else before it came to be considered by the Senedd.", + "title": "Discussion About the Bill", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 8, + 16 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "bill", + "speaker": "Hefin David AM , Huw Morris" + }, + "summary": "Hefin David AM confirmed that discussion was on the future of the Bill and Huw Morris added that there was extensive, ongoing communication but the challenge of preparing a Bill was the balancing act between gathering information and discreetness.", + "title": "Preparation of a Bill", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 8, + 16 + ] + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "Lynne Neagle AM : Hefin David has some questions now on fee and access plans.", + "Hefin David AM : Are you concerned that neither the regulator nor the sector seem to have any confidence in fee and access plans?", + "Kirsty Williams AM : I think the concept of a fee and access plan is an important concept. Whether we can do them better, whether we can reflect on what's happened to date and create a better system of what's included in a fee and access plan and how those fee and access plans can be monitored, there's an opportunity to do that in forthcoming legislation.", + "Hefin David AM : So, have you been aware of specific issues yourself? Have they brought them to you?", + "Kirsty Williams AM : Well, no, not in the sense that they've brought them to me to talk about specifically. From my perspective, fee and access plans are focused very much on inputs, and, really, I'd like to think about outputs and outcomes, more importantly\u2014what are the outcomes of the fee and access plan, not necessarily just how much money has been spent on them. I think, certainly, to really understand the success of the fee and access plan, you have to question whether an annual basis is an appropriate timescale for a university to be working to, and whether we could have something that was focused over a longer period of time. Because, when you think about it, you write the plan and then you're into it, and then, the next thing you know, you're writing your next year's plan. So, I think there's an opportunity there to look to restructure. So, do I see a place for fee and access plans going forward, as part of our outcome agreements? Yes, I do. Can we do them differently to make them more effective? Yes, I think we can.", + "Hefin David AM : So, why would introducing outcome agreements make them work any better?", + "Kirsty Williams AM : Well, I think they're going to be a part of an outcome agreement\u2014part of that wider expectation. So, fee and access plans are there to address an issue around, primarily, changing the nature of people who go to university and making sure that nobody is put off from pursuing that. So, that's part of a wider piece of work that I'd want to see as an outcome agreement. But, as I said, I think looking at outcomes for students and outcomes of that activity, rather than the inputs of the activity, over a longer period of time, is probably a more effective way of doing it. I think it's still\u2014. In a way, it's difficult to make a final judgment on whether fee and access plans in their current format have worked, because we need to know what'll happen to those students in the future. But undoubtedly, despite the limitations of them, I do think we're making progress in terms of access, but I don't think we can necessarily point to the fee and access plans as being the driver for some of those improvements.", + "Hefin David AM : No, I appreciate that, and some of the things you're saying reflect some of the discussions we've had, but what was clear is that the process and bureaucratic nature of the way you present fee and access plans doesn't work, particularly given the fact that, four years on, early fee and access plans are still being evaluated. There's a real problem there. So, what you're saying\u2014can I just pin down what you're saying\u2014is that we may be moving away from yearly fee and access plans to something that's longer term and outcome focused.", + "Kirsty Williams AM : That's my preference.\u00a0So, I think the principle\u2014I'd like to think we can all agree around the principle of what a fee and access plan is hoping to achieve, but I think there are better ways of doing it, and I think we should take the opportunity of reform to look at how we can do it better.", + "Hefin David AM : So, with that in mind, I think we're talking about the future of the Bill, the consultation on the PCET reforms closed in summer 2018\u2014with these important issues in mind and things that are currently ongoing, have you had further dialogue since then with key stakeholders like, for example, Universities Wales and others?", + "Kirsty Williams AM : On the Bill or on fee and access plans in particular?", + "Hefin David AM : I'm thinking about fee and access plans as an issue that suggests that there is a need for deep consultation, so with that in mind, with things like that, have you had further discussion?", + "Kirsty Williams AM : Oh my goodness me, civil servants in the department are constantly in discussion with a range of stakeholders as we continue to develop legislative proposals. I meet on a regular basis with both HEFCW\u2014I meet separately with the vice-chancellors, and I've been very keen to develop a stronger working relationship with chairs, and perhaps we'll come on to issues of governance later. So, we are constantly discussing with stakeholders all options for change\u2014", + "Hefin David AM : I suppose the message I'm getting as chair of the cross-party group on higher education is that there could still be more direct consultation with stakeholders. That's the message I've received. Now, I've got no evidence to say it has or hasn't happened, but that's the message I've received.", + "Huw Morris : If I could just chip in for a moment, the Minister's outlined that there is very extensive, ongoing communication both ways with the sector, but the challenge of preparing a Bill is the balancing act between gathering in information\u2014and there's been a general consultation process and a technical consultation process\u2014and wanting to make sure that the Bill that's laid next year hasn't been discussed with anybody else before it comes to be considered by the Senedd. So, the broad principles have been discussed, but specific details of what goes into a Bill or policy instructions that inform a Bill haven't been the subject of consultation\u2014", + "Hefin David AM : Because that happens at Stage 1.", + "Huw Morris : Indeed, yes." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "train", + "file_id": 7, + "turns": [ + 45, + 123 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "functional requirements", + "speaker": "Marketing" + }, + "summary": "Marketing said that they tested hundreds of subjects in a study, and they found that the subjects weren't happy with their remote controls, seventy-five percent think they could be ugly, and that clients wanted to spend money if they make it look fancier. And then said that they needed to be simple, and high-tech looking. It raised a point about complexity and engineering vs user too. After a while, it said that they need something simple because users spend too much time learning a new control remote. It said that the buttons that could be most used it's the volume, the power buttons, and the channel buttons. It said that a priority could be that they needed a modern, eye-catching design, but simple at the same time. Because the engineering ones tend to make it look more complicated, so the functionality had to be considered, because some users needed it for a dvd player or a TiVo. At last, it said that they found that speech recognition could be something coming on and consumers and they could pay a little more if they wanted that, so they could try out different types of speech recognition.", + "title": "Marketing Summary of Functional Requirements", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 0, + 1 + ], + [ + 15, + 21 + ], + [ + 31, + 40 + ], + [ + 49, + 71 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "functional requirements", + "speaker": "Marketing" + }, + "summary": "Marketing said that they tested hundreds of subjects in a study, about remotes, seventy-five percent think it was ugly, eighty percent wanted to spend money if they make it look fancier. Something simple, thirty-four percent said that learning to use a new remote was hard. The most used buttons were the volume, the power buttons, and the channel buttons. 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Marketing said that thirty-four percent said that it's too much time to learn how to use a new control remote.", + "title": "Lab Test Info Summary", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 1, + 14 + ], + [ + 31, + 35 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "design , buttons , lab tests", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Marketing; tested a hundred subjects in our lab; watched them and we also made them fill out a questionnaire; found that the users are not typically happy with current remote controls; spend more; make it look fancier; User Interface; only use ten percent of the buttons; Marketing; need something simple, because most people, well thirty four percent say that it's just too much time to learn how to use a new one; don't want to vary too far from the normal standard remote.", + "title": "Lab Test Info Summary", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 1, + 14 + ], + [ + 31, + 35 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "remote , function design , modern , high-class", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Marketing said that the remote should be snazzy and simple, like high-tech looking yet simple. It said that too many people told them that they had too much time to learn to use a new one, so their objective was to not vary too far from the normal standard remote, so they need to be able to identify it, and RSI. Project Manager said that was very important, and User Interface asked if it was ergonomics like hand movements. After that Marketing said that the buttons of volume, channel, and power were the most important ones, so they need a modern eye-catching design, but more user-friendly. They need a small number of buttons but taking into account that most people used it for a DVD player and a TiVo. They need a hip, but not a corny marketing scheme for promoting our product. 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Alright . Now we have Courtney with the functional requirements .", + "Marketing : Yes , okay so we tested a hundred subjects in our lab , and we just we watched them and we also made them fill out a questionnaire , and we found that the {vocalsound} users are not typically happy with current remote controls . Seventy five percent think they're ugly . Eighty percent want {disfmarker} they've {disfmarker} are willing to spend more , which is good news for us um if we make it look fancier , and basically w we just need something that really I mean there's some other points up there , but they {disfmarker} it needs to be snazzy and it {disfmarker} but yet simple .", + "User Interface : {gap} Wait .", + "Marketing : So that's really what we need to do . And we need we need it to be simple , yet it needs to be high-tech looking . So {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : And that meaning what ?", + "Marketing : Like {disfmarker} They like I guess use the buttons a lot .", + "User Interface : Okay .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "User Interface : {gap}", + "Marketing : I don't know . It's from my uh research .", + "Project Manager : Okay , what do you m", + "User Interface : Right .", + "Marketing : My team wasn't very clear .", + "Project Manager : Oh , I'm sorry .", + "User Interface : Only use ten percent of the buttons .", + "Project Manager : What do you mean by um the current remote controls do not match well with the operating behaviour of the user , like they have to press the buttons .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound} That's okay . I I think it's like the engineering versus user ,", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "Marketing : whereas like the engineering she showed that the engineering ones are more complex", + "Project Manager : Oh , right .", + "Marketing : and users don't really need all of the buttons that are contained on there , because they only use ten percent of the buttons really .", + "Project Manager : The buttons . Okay .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Yeah . Okay .", + "Industrial Designer : We only use ten per cent of our brains . {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : Good point .", + "Project Manager : It works .", + "Marketing : It's a necessary evil .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} yeah .", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} Ready for the next slide ?", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm . {vocalsound} And so people say that they typically lose it , as you yourself know , because you probably lose your remote control all the time ,", + "Project Manager : Hmm .", + "Marketing : much like any small appliance like a cellphone ,", + "User Interface : Lost .", + "Marketing : and they {disfmarker} we need something simple , because most people , well thirty four percent say that it's just too much time to learn how to use a new one , and we don't want to go {disfmarker} we don't want to vary too far from the normal standard remote ,", + "User Interface : S", + "Marketing : but I mean they do need to be able to identify it , and R_S_I_ , I'm not very sure what that is .", + "Project Manager : It's okay . 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It's okay . {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound} But also s so the channel , the volume and the power buttons are the most important on our company website you can find like the specific statistics concerning to how much each button is used , but those are the definitely the top ones .", + "Project Manager : Okay . Next slide ?", + "Marketing : Yes . And so personally I think that we need a modern eye-catching design , but it it really needs to be simple . So saying from y your slide , your presentation , the engineering versus the user-specified remotes , I think that we should go with something that's more user-friendly .", + "Project Manager : User-friendly .", + "Marketing : Where the engineering ones , the boxes , tend to make it look more complicated than it really is . Um the functionality of the product really needs to be considered as to like what type of buttons do we really need on it . And it needs to be open to a wide range of consumers , so even though we need a small number of buttons , we also need to take in {disfmarker} like are most people going to be using it for a D_V_D_ player , a TiVo , what what exactly are we using it for , as well as the age range . So we need a hip , but not a corny marketing scheme for promoting our product .", + "User Interface : {gap}", + "Marketing : And also we found {disfmarker} our team found that speech recognition is {disfmarker} it's like an up-and-coming thing they really {disfmarker} consumers are really interested in it , and since our findings found that people are willing to pay more money for a remote for it to be more high-class we could consider it .", + "Project Manager : And so just to {disfmarker} just to clarify by speech recognition you mean they would say , channel five , and the thing would go to channel five ?", + "Marketing : I guess so , yeah .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "User Interface : {gap} to just say , where are you , and thing beeps , you know . {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} Oh , that'd be lovely .", + "Marketing : Yeah , I guess we can interpret it like , we can just try out different types of speech recognition within our remote programme .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} Didn't they {disfmarker} um didn't our rival companies manufacture a remote that you would press the button on the T_V_ and it would {disfmarker} the remote would beep so if you have lost it {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : It's kinda like what the remote phone used to do .", + "Project Manager : Mm . Oh , yeah , that's true .", + "User Interface : You know like go to the base .", + "Project Manager : We could definitely include that if we wanted to .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : If it's within our price . Okay . Are we ready for our last presentation , Amber ?" + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "test", + "file_id": 31, + "turns": [ + 521, + 744 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "dc offsets , plp , high-pass filter , sampling rate", + "speaker": "Professor F" + }, + "summary": "Professor F mentioned that DC offsets were common, but not a big deal. Explained that someone could have many millivolts and still have offsets. Professor F did not have a PLP and had to use a high-pass filter for a specific sampling rate.", + "title": "Using High-Pass Filters Before PLP", + "relevant_turns": [ + 5, + 7, + 9 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "dc offsets , plp , high-pass filter , sampling rate", + "speaker": "Professor F" + }, + "summary": "Professor F mentioned it was not uncommon for recorded electronics to have different DC offsets. Explained that you could have ten, twenty, maybe thirty millivolts and still had offsets. Professor F mentioned that had the equivalent of pre-emphasis in a Fletcher-Munson weighting, but it did not actually have zero frequency. Professor F thought they better had a high-pass filter instead of a PLP, so preferred to use one at ninety hertz for a sixteen-kilohertz sampling rate. Professor F never put anything to adjust for different sampling rates.", + "title": "Using High-Pass Filters Before PLP", + "relevant_turns": [ + 5, + 7, + 9 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "parameter , hpf , rasta", + "speaker": "Professor F , PhD C" + }, + "summary": "PhD C told Professor F that Dan made the parameter HPF, to which Professor F thought it was great. PhD C mentioned HPF used the number after it as the hertz value. Professor F mentioned they never did that with RASTA filter.", + "title": "Experiences on RASTA Filter and HPF", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 11, + 29 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "parameter , hpf , rasta", + "speaker": "Professor F , PhD C" + }, + "summary": "Professor F, don't know if Dan fixed it. PhD C, made it a parameter. Professor F, taking care of sampling rate, great. PhD C, HPF, when, put a number after it, uses that as the hertz value of the cut-off. Professor F, never did that with the RASTA filter; RASTA filter, doing a different thing in the modulation spectral domain depending on what sampling rate, doing; old bug; that was the problem, intended to cut off below a hundred hertz.", + "title": "Experiences on RASTA Filter and HPF", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 11, + 29 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "experiment , klt , deltas", + "speaker": "Professor F , PhD D" + }, + "summary": "PhD D explained that in Andreas' first experiment they took through the KLT the fifty-six outputs compared to a thirty-nine output from either MFCC or PLP. PhD D asked Professor F if Dan had done an experiment of taking out thirteen components and then doing deltas and double-deltas. Professor F suggested talking to either Carmen or Stephan, as they did something similar. However, Professor F recalled that did not make it better or worse.", + "title": "PhD D Question on Deltas and Double-Deltas", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 54, + 82 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "experiment , klt , deltas", + "speaker": "Professor F , PhD D" + }, + "summary": "PhD D explained in the experiment they took fifty-six outputs through KLT. PhD D asked if Dan had done deltas and double-deltas. Professor F suggested talking to either Carmen or Stephan.", + "title": "PhD D Question on Deltas and Double-Deltas", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 54, + 82 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "bugs , debug , tandem", + "speaker": "PhD C" + }, + "summary": "PhD C debugged two systems, but was afraid there were more bugs. PhD C asked how to debug the tandem.", + "title": "PhD C on Debugging", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 83, + 100 + ], + 115 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "bugs , debug , tandem", + "speaker": "PhD C" + }, + "summary": "PhD C said they had the procedure for coupling the two systems debugged, but there was some bug in the tandem, feeding them to the SRI system. PhD C thought the system could be trained, as they did with PLP features. PhD C recognized there might be undiscovered bugs and asked how to debug the tandem.", + "title": "PhD C on Debugging", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 83, + 100 + ], + 115 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "training , system , discriminant", + "speaker": "PhD G , Professor F" + }, + "summary": "PhD G mentioned that there was always going to be the question of training the system for word error metrics, to which Professor F said they were training in an indirect way. Professor F proceeded to explain the full procedure to train a system to be discriminant, using Viterbi alignment. However, believed it was not the case for the students since they were using a hybrid system.", + "title": "Professor F on System Training", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 130, + 137 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "training , system , discriminant", + "speaker": "PhD G , Professor F" + }, + "summary": "PhD G mentioned that when optimized for phone discrimination, there was always going to be the question of training the system for word error metrics, to which Professor F said they were training in an indirect way. Professor F proceeded to explain the full procedure to train a system. First, the net was trained on a Viterbi alignment to be discriminant through feedback. However, students were not using the Viterbi assumption, which was getting the best path was almost equivalent to getting the best total probability. Professor F mentioned they were not using the Viterbi assumption because they had a hybrid system.", + "title": "Professor F on System Training", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 130, + 137 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "klt , dimensionality", + "speaker": "Professor F , PhD C" + }, + "summary": "PhD C asked Professor F about the KLT transform, because having a huge vector was a problem unless they did a dimensionality reduction.", + "title": "KLT Transform on Feature Vector", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 169, + 185 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "klt , dimensionality", + "speaker": "Professor F , PhD C" + }, + "summary": "Professor F, current best, system in the, Aurora. PhD C, do a KLT transform on the, combined feature vector? Professor F, yeah; but, should check, because, tried several different combinations. PhD C, end up with this huge feature vector, so that might be a problem, unless, do some form of dimensionality reduction. Professor F, don't remember, which came out best; so, did one, the whole thing into one KLT, and another one, just did a KLT on, the net outputs.", + "title": "KLT Transform on Feature Vector", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 169, + 185 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "stephane , gaussian mixture , concatenation", + "speaker": "Professor F" + }, + "summary": "Professor F mentioned Stephan came up with an innovation. Stephan took the input feature vector to the Gaussian mixture system, a concatenation of outputs and features.", + "title": "Professor F on Stephan's Idea", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 152, + 167 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "stephane , gaussian mixture , concatenation", + "speaker": "Professor F" + }, + "summary": "Professor F mentioned Stephan came up with a neat innovation. Stephan thought discriminant approaches were great, even the local ones. However, that was not always true, because there could be enough difference between the test set and the training set, making it not good discrimination. Thus, Stephan took it to the Gaussian system, a concatenation of the neural net outputs and the regular features.", + "title": "Professor F on Stephan's Idea", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 152, + 167 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "xeroxed , zero , close", + "speaker": "PhD G , Professor F" + }, + "summary": "PhD G said they needed to close up to save the data, to which Professor F agreed and added they were missing snacks. Professor F suggested doing the digits together. PhD G did not have enough digit forms, so xeroxed seven times the same one. They proceeded to say zero at the same time to close the meeting.", + "title": "Closing Meeting", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 191, + 223 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "xeroxed , zero , close", + "speaker": "PhD G , Professor F" + }, + "summary": "PhD G needed to close up. Professor F said they should do the digits and say zero together. PhD G xeroxed the digit form seven times.", + "title": "Closing Meeting", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 191, + 223 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "experiment , tandem features", + "speaker": "PhD D , PhD C" + }, + "summary": "PhD D and PhD C thought of a tandem features experiment, doing SRI forced alignments, and re-doing the net.", + "title": "Idea for Tandem Experiment", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 139, + 151 + ], + [ + 155, + 161 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "experiment , tandem features", + "speaker": "PhD D , PhD C" + }, + "summary": "PhD D thought of an experiment with the tandem features, doing SRI forced alignments, and then re-doing the net. PhD C mentioned there was a mismatch of phone sets, but that they already talked about Stephan's approach, after first corresponding to Dan.", + "title": "Idea for Tandem Experiment", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 139, + 151 + ], + [ + 155, + 161 + ] + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "PhD C : Mm - hmm .", + "Professor F : And at that point , you know , we were pretty new to the data and we 'd never really , like , looked at it on a screen and then when we just put it on the screen {comment} and wroop !", + "PhD C : Mm - hmm .", + "Professor F : there 's this big DC offset . So , um , in PLP", + "PhD G : There was a {disfmarker} like a hum or some or {disfmarker} when they recorded it ?", + "Professor F : No . It 's just , it {disfmarker} it 's {disfmarker} it 's not at all uncommon for {disfmarker} for recorded electronics to have different , um , DC offsets .", + "PhD G : Or just {disfmarker} ? Huh .", + "Professor F : It 's {disfmarker} it 's , you know , no big deal . It 's {disfmarker} you know , you could have ten , twenty , maybe thirty millivolts , whatever , and it 's consistently in there . The thing is , most people 's front - ends have pre - emphasis with it , with zero at zero frequency , so that it 's irrelevant . Uh , but with P L P , we didn't actually have that . We had {disfmarker} we had the equivalent of pre - emphasis in a {disfmarker} a , uh , Fletcher - Munson style weighting that occurs in the middle of P L but it doesn't actually have a zero at zero frequency ,", + "PhD G : Hmm .", + "Professor F : like , eh , uh , typical simple fr pre - emphasis does . We had something more fancy . It was later on it didn't have that . So at that point I reali \" oh sh we better have a {disfmarker} have a high - pass filter \" just , you know {disfmarker} {vocalsound} just take care of the problem . So I put in a high - pass filter at , uh , I think ninety {disfmarker} ninety hertz or so {vocalsound} uh , for a sixteen kilohertz sampling rate . And I never put anything in to adjust it for different {disfmarker} different sampling rates . And so {disfmarker} well , so , you know , the code doesn't know anything about that and so this is all at eight kilohertz and so it was at forty - five hertz instead of at {disfmarker} {vocalsound} instead of at ninety .", + "PhD C : Hmm .", + "Professor F : So , um , I don't know if Dan fixed it or {disfmarker} or , uh , what he {disfmarker}", + "PhD C : Well , he made it a parameter .", + "Professor F : He made it a parameter . So . Yeah , I guess if he did it right , he did fix it and then {disfmarker} and then it 's taking care of sampling rate , which is great .", + "PhD D : What {disfmarker} what is the parameter ?", + "Professor F : He had a {disfmarker}", + "PhD D : Is it , uh , just the f lower cut - off that you want ?", + "PhD C : It 's called , uh , {vocalsound} H - HPF .", + "Professor F : H {disfmarker} Yeah . Does HPF on {disfmarker} on his feat feature .", + "PhD C : u And {disfmarker} but HPF , you know , when you put a number after it , uses that as the hertz value of the cut - off .", + "PhD D : Mm - hmm . Oh , OK .", + "Professor F : Yeah .", + "PhD C : So .", + "Professor F : I mean , frankly , we never did that with the RASTA filter either ,", + "PhD C : Mm - hmm .", + "Professor F : so the RASTA filter is actually doing a different thing in the modulation spectral domain depending on what sampling rate you 're doing , which is {vocalsound} another old {disfmarker} old bug of mine .", + "PhD C : Mm - hmm .", + "Professor F : But , um {disfmarker} Um . So that {disfmarker} that was the problem there was th we {disfmarker} we {disfmarker} we had always intended to cut off below a hundred hertz", + "PhD C : Mm - hmm .", + "Professor F : and it just wasn't doing it , so now it is . So , {vocalsound} that hep that helped us by , like , eight tenths of a percent . It {pause} still wasn't a big deal .", + "PhD C : OK . Well , but , um {disfmarker} Well , uh , again , after completing the {pause} current experiments , we 'll {disfmarker} {vocalsound} we can add up all the uh differences", + "Professor F : Oh , yeah .", + "PhD C : and {disfmarker} {vocalsound} and {disfmarker} an", + "Professor F : But {disfmarker} but , I guess my {disfmarker} my point was that {disfmarker} that , um , the hybrid system thing that we did was , uh , primitive in many ways .", + "PhD C : Y Right .", + "Professor F : And I think I agree with you that if we fixed lots of different things and they would all add up , we would probably have a {disfmarker} a {disfmarker} a competitive system . But I think not that much of it is due to the front - end per se . I think maybe a couple percent of it is , as far as I can see from this .", + "PhD C : Mm - hmm .", + "Professor F : Uh , unless you call {disfmarker} well , if you call VTL the front - en front - end , that 's , uh , a little more . But that 's sort of more both , kind of .", + "PhD D : One experiment we should {disfmarker} we 'll probably need to do though when {disfmarker} um , at some point , is , since we 're using that same {disfmarker} the net that was trained on PLP without all these things in it , for the tandem system , we may wanna go back and retrain ,", + "Professor F : Right ? But .", + "PhD C : Well , that 's what I meant , in fact . Yeah .", + "PhD D : yeah , yeah , for the tandem . You know , so we can see if it {disfmarker} what effect it has on the tandem processing .", + "PhD C : So {disfmarker} so , the thing is {disfmarker} is do we expect {disfmarker} ?", + "Professor F : Mm - hmm .", + "PhD C : eh At this point I 'm as I mean , you know {disfmarker} e I 'm wondering is it {disfmarker} Can we expect , uh , a tandem system to do better than a properly trained {disfmarker} you know , a Gaussian system trained directly on the features with , you know , the right ch choice of {pause} parameters ?", + "Professor F : Well , that 's what we 're seeing in other areas . Yes . Right ? So , it 's {disfmarker} so , um , um {disfmarker}", + "PhD D : So , we {disfmarker} But {disfmarker} but we may not . I mean , if it doesn't perform as well , we may not know why . Right ? Cuz we need to do the exact experiment .", + "PhD C : Right .", + "Professor F : I mean , the reason to think it should is because you 're putting in the same information and you 're transforming it to be more discriminative . So . Um . Now the thing is , in some databases I wouldn't expect it to necessarily give you much and {disfmarker} and part of what I view as the real power of it is that it {pause} gives you a transformational capability {vocalsound} for taking all sorts of different wild things that we do , not just th the standard front - end , but other things , like with multiple streams and so forth ,", + "PhD C : Mm - hmm .", + "Professor F : and allows you to feed them to the other system with this {disfmarker} through this funnel . Um , so I think {disfmarker} I think that 's the real power of it . I wouldn't expect huge in huge improvements . Um , but it should at least be roughly the same and maybe a little better .", + "PhD C : Mm - hmm .", + "Professor F : If it 's , you know , like way way worse then , you know {disfmarker}", + "PhD C : Right .", + "PhD D : So , Morgan , an another thing that Andreas and I were talking about was , so @ @ {comment} in the first experiment that he did {vocalsound} we just took the whole fifty - six , uh , outputs and that 's , um , basically compared to a thirty - nine input feature vector from either MFCC or PLP .", + "Professor F : Mm - hmm . Mm - hmm .", + "PhD D : But one thing we could do is {disfmarker}", + "Professor F : Let {disfmarker} let me {disfmarker} let me just ask you something . When you say take the fifty - six outputs , these are the pre final nonlinearity {pause} outputs", + "PhD D : Yeah . Through the regular tandem outputs .", + "Professor F : and they 're {disfmarker} and {disfmarker} through the KLT .", + "PhD D : Through the KLT . All that kinda stuff .", + "Professor F : OK . And so {disfmarker} so then you u Do you use all fifty - six of the KLT", + "PhD D : That 's what we did .", + "Professor F : or {disfmarker} ?", + "PhD D : Right ? So one thing we were wondering is , if we did principal components and , say , took out just thirteen , and then did deltas and double - deltas on that {disfmarker}", + "Professor F : OK . Yes .", + "PhD D : so we treated the th first thirteen as though they were {vocalsound} standard features .", + "Professor F : Yes . Yeah .", + "PhD D : I mean , did Dan do experiments like that to {disfmarker} ?", + "Professor F : Uh . Talk with Stephane . He did some things like that . It was either him or Carmen . I forget .", + "PhD C : Mm - hmm .", + "PhD D : Mmm .", + "Professor F : I mean these were all different databases and different {disfmarker} you know , in HTK and all that ,", + "PhD D : Yeah .", + "Professor F : so i it {disfmarker} it may not apply . But my recollection of it was that it didn't make it better but it didn't make it worse .", + "PhD D : Hmm .", + "Professor F : But , again , given all these differences , maybe it 's more important in your case that you not take a lot of these low - variance , uh , components .", + "PhD D : Cuz in a sense , the net 's already got quite a bit of context in those features ,", + "Professor F : Yeah .", + "PhD D : so if we did deltas and double - deltas on top of those , we 're getting sort of even more .", + "Professor F : Which could be good or not .", + "PhD D : Yeah .", + "Professor F : Yeah . Yeah . Worth trying .", + "PhD C : But there the main point is that , um , you know , it took us a while but we have the procedure for coupling the two systems {vocalsound} debugged now and {disfmarker} I mean , there 's still conceivably some bug somewhere in the way we 're feeding the tandem features {disfmarker} uh , either generating them or feeding them to this {disfmarker} to the {vocalsound} SRI system ,", + "PhD D : Mm - hmm . Yeah .", + "PhD C : but it 's {disfmarker}", + "Professor F : There might be , cuz that 's a pretty big difference .", + "PhD C : Yeah . And I 'm wondering how we can {disfmarker} how we can debug that .", + "Professor F : But", + "PhD D : Yeah .", + "PhD C : I mean how {disfmarker} Um .", + "Professor F : Hmm .", + "PhD C : I 'm actually f quite sure that the {disfmarker} feeding the {pause} features into the system and training it up ,", + "Professor F : What if {disfmarker} ?", + "PhD C : that {disfmarker} that {disfmarker} I think that 's {disfmarker} this {disfmarker} that 's essentially the same as we use with the ce with the P L P fe features . And that 's obviously working great . So . I um .", + "PhD D : Yeah . There could be a bug in {disfmarker} in the {disfmarker} somewhere before that .", + "PhD C : There {disfmarker} we could {disfmarker} the {disfmarker} another degree of freedom is how do you generate the K L T transform ?", + "PhD D : Mm - hmm .", + "PhD C : Right ? We to", + "Professor F : That 's {disfmarker}", + "PhD D : Right .", + "Professor F : well , and another one is the normalization of the inputs to the net .", + "PhD C : Yeah .", + "Professor F : These nets are trained with particular normalization and when that gets screwed up it {disfmarker} it can really hurt it .", + "PhD D : I 'm doing what Eric {disfmarker} E Eric coached me through then {disfmarker} that part of it , so I 'm pretty confident in that .", + "Professor F : OK .", + "PhD D : I mean , the only slight difference is that I use normalization values that , um , Andreas calculated from the original {comment} PLP ,", + "PhD C : Right .", + "PhD D : which is right .", + "PhD C : Right .", + "PhD D : N Yeah . So , I u I do {disfmarker} Oh , we actually don't do that normalization for the PLP , do we ? For the st just the straight PLP features ?", + "PhD C : No . The {disfmarker} the SRI system does it .", + "PhD D : S R I system does that . Right .", + "PhD C : Yeah .", + "Professor F : Right . Well , you might e e", + "PhD C : So , there 's {disfmarker} there is {disfmarker} there is room for bugs that we might not have discovered ,", + "PhD D : So that 's {disfmarker} that 's another {disfmarker} Yeah .", + "Professor F : Yeah .", + "PhD D : Mm - hmm .", + "Professor F : Yeah . {vocalsound} I {disfmarker} I would actually double check with Stephane at this point ,", + "PhD C : but {disfmarker}", + "Professor F : cuz he 's probably the one here {disfmarker} I mean , he and Dan are the ones who are at this point most experienced with the tandem", + "PhD D : Mm - hmm .", + "Professor F : thing and there may {disfmarker} there may be some little bit here and there that is not {disfmarker} not being handled right .", + "PhD D : Yeah . It 's hard with features , cuz you don't know what they should look like . I mean , you can't just , like , print the {disfmarker} the values out in ASCII and , you know , look at them , see if they 're {disfmarker}", + "Professor F : Not unless you had a lot of time", + "PhD G : Well {disfmarker}", + "Professor F : and {disfmarker}", + "PhD G : eh , and also they 're not {disfmarker} I mean , as I understand it , you {disfmarker} you don't have a way to optimize the features for the final word error . Right ?", + "PhD C : Right .", + "PhD G : I mean , these are just discriminative , but they 're not , um , optimized for the final {disfmarker}", + "PhD C : They 're optimized for phone discrimination , not for {disfmarker}", + "PhD G : Right . So it {disfmarker} there 's always this question of whether you might do better with those features if there was a way to train it for the word error metric that you 're actually {disfmarker} that you 're actually {disfmarker}", + "Professor F : That 's right . Well , the other {disfmarker} Yeah , th the {disfmarker}", + "PhD C : Mm - Mmm .", + "Professor F : Well , you actually are . But {disfmarker} but it {disfmarker} but in an indirect way .", + "PhD G : Well , right . It 's indirect , so you don't know {disfmarker}", + "Professor F : So wha w what {disfmarker} an and you may not be in this case , come to think of it , because , uh , you 're just taking something that 's trained up elsewhere . So , what {disfmarker} what you {disfmarker} what you do in the full procedure {vocalsound} is you , um , uh , have an embedded training . So in fact you {disfmarker} the {disfmarker} the net is trained on , uh , uh , a , uh , Viterbi alignment of the training data that comes from your full system . And so that 's where the feedback comes all around , so that it is actually discriminant . You can prove that it 's {disfmarker} it 's a , uh {disfmarker} If you believe in the Viterbi assumption that , uh , getting the best path , uh , is almost equivalent to getting the best , uh , total probability , um , then you actually do improve that by , uh {disfmarker} by training up on local {disfmarker} local , uh {disfmarker} local frames . But , um , we aren't actually doing that here , because we did {disfmarker} we did that for a hybrid system , and now we 're plugging it into another system and so it isn't {disfmarker} {vocalsound} i i i it wouldn't quite apply here .", + "PhD C : Do y", + "PhD D : So another huge experiment we could do would be to take the tandem features , uh , do SRI forced alignments using those features , and then re - do the net with those .", + "Professor F : Mm - hmm .", + "PhD G : Mmm , uh {disfmarker} Exactly . Exactly .", + "Professor F : Yeah .", + "PhD G : So that you can optimize it for the word error .", + "PhD C : But {disfmarker}", + "Professor F : Yeah . Another thing is since you 're not using the net for recognition per se but just for this transformation , it 's probably bigger than it needs to be .", + "PhD G : Yeah .", + "Professor F : So that would save a lot of time .", + "PhD C : And there 's a mismatch in the phone sets . So , you 're using a l a long a larger phone set than what {disfmarker}", + "PhD D : Mmm .", + "Professor F : Yeah . Actually all those things could {disfmarker} could {disfmarker} could {disfmarker} could , uh {disfmarker} could affect it as well .", + "PhD D : Yeah . Yeah .", + "Professor F : The other thing , uh , just to mention that Stephane {disfmarker} this was an innovation of Stephane 's , which was a pretty neat one , uh , and might particularly apply {vocalsound} here , given all these things we 're mentioning . Um , Stephane 's idea was that , um , discriminant , uh , approaches are great . Even the local ones , given , you know , these potential outer loops which , you know , you can convince yourself turn into the global ones . Um , however , there 's times when it {pause} is not good . Uh , when {pause} something about the test set is different enough from the training set that {disfmarker} that , uh , the discrimination that you 're learning is {disfmarker} is {disfmarker} is not a good one .", + "PhD C : Mm - hmm .", + "Professor F : So , uh , his idea was to take as the input feature vector to the , uh , Gaussian mixture system , {vocalsound} uh , a concatenation of the neural net outputs and the regular features .", + "PhD C : Oh , we already talked about that .", + "PhD G : Yeah . That {disfmarker}", + "Professor F : Yeah .", + "PhD C : El", + "PhD D : Mm - hmm .", + "PhD G : Didn't you {disfmarker} did you {pause} do that already", + "PhD C : Yeah . No , but we {disfmarker} we {disfmarker} when {disfmarker} when we {disfmarker} when I first started corresponding with Dan about how to go about this , I think that was one of the things that we definitely went there .", + "PhD G : or {disfmarker} ? Oh . That makes a lot of sense . Huh .", + "Professor F : Yeah . Yeah . I mean , I 'm sure that Stephane wasn't the first to think of it ,", + "PhD C : Yeah .", + "Professor F : but actually Stephane did it", + "PhD C : Uh - huh . And i does it help ?", + "Professor F : and {disfmarker} {vocalsound} and {disfmarker} and it helped a lot .", + "PhD C : Oh , OK .", + "Professor F : Yeah . So that 's {disfmarker} that {disfmarker} that 's our current best {disfmarker} best system in the , uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} uh , in the Aurora thing .", + "PhD C : Oh . OK .", + "PhD G : Yeah . That makes sense .", + "PhD C : And do you do a KLT transform on the con on the combined feature vector ?", + "Professor F : Yeah .", + "PhD G : As {disfmarker} you should never do worse .", + "Professor F : I {disfmarker} I , uh , missed what you said .", + "PhD C : Do you {disfmarker} d you do a KLT transform on the combined feature vector ?", + "Professor F : Yeah .", + "PhD C : OK .", + "Professor F : Well , actually , I , uh {disfmarker} you should check with him , because he tried several different combinations .", + "PhD C : Because you end up with this huge feature vector , so that might be a problem , a unless you do some form of dimensionality reduction .", + "Professor F : Yeah . I , uh , th what I don't remember is which came out best . So he did one where he put o put e the whole thing into one KLT , and another one , since the {disfmarker} the PLP things are already orthogonalized , he left them alone and {disfmarker} and just did a KLT on the {disfmarker} on the {disfmarker} on the net outputs", + "PhD C : Mm - hmm . Mmm .", + "Professor F : and then concatenated that . And I don't remember which was better .", + "PhD D : Did he {disfmarker} did he try to {disfmarker} ? So he always ended up with a feature vector that was {pause} twice as long as either one of the {disfmarker} ?", + "Professor F : No . I don't know , i I {disfmarker} I don't know . You have to check with him .", + "PhD D : Yeah .", + "PhD C : OK . Actually , I have to run .", + "Professor F : I 'm into big ideas these days .", + "PhD G : Yeah .", + "PhD C : Uh .", + "PhD G : We need to close up cuz I need to save the data and , um , get a call .", + "Professor F : Not to mention the fact that we 're missing snacks . Yeah .", + "PhD G : Right .", + "Professor F : Uh", + "PhD G : Did people wanna do the digits", + "Professor F : Um .", + "PhD G : or , um , do them together ?", + "Professor F : I {disfmarker} I g I think , given that we 're in a hurry for snacks , maybe we should do them together .", + "PhD G : I don't know . Should we just {disfmarker} ? OK . I mean , are we trying to do them {nonvocalsound} in synchrony ? That might be fun .", + "Professor F : Well , it 's {disfmarker} {vocalsound} it 's {disfmarker} it 's not {disfmarker} You know , it 's not gonna work out", + "PhD G : Adam 's not here , so he 's not here to tell me no .", + "Professor F : but we could {disfmarker} we could just , uh , uh , see if we find a rhythm , you know , what {disfmarker}", + "PhD G : Sure .", + "Professor F : Uh , O 's or zeroes , we wanna agree on that ?", + "PhD G : Maybe just whatever people would naturally do ? I don't know .", + "Professor F : Oh , but if we were a singing group , we would wanna decide . Right ?", + "PhD G : Be harmony . Yeah . {comment} Yeah .", + "Postdoc A : Mine 's identical to yours .", + "Professor F : We might wa", + "Postdoc A : Is that correct ?", + "PhD G : Sorry . So I set up and we didn't have {pause} enough digit forms", + "Postdoc A : Oh . I see .", + "Professor F : So these are excellent .", + "PhD G : so I xeroxed the same one seven times .", + "Postdoc A : Oh . I see .", + "Professor F : Why don't we do zer i Anyone have a problem with saying zero ? Is zero OK ?", + "PhD G : No .", + "Postdoc A : Yeah .", + "Professor F : OK . One and a two and three .", + "PhD G : e", + "Professor F : Once more with feeling .", + "PhD G : And th", + "Professor F : No , just k just kidding . Oh , yeah . It was ." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "train", + "file_id": 59, + "turns": [ + 1, + 89 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "detailed , design of the product", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "The group discussed the detailed design of the product and said they wanted the product to have an ergonomic shape, an on/off button, volume and channel control, menu control, voice recognition control, and an LCD screen.", + "title": "Group Discussion about the Detailed Design of the Product", + "relevant_turns": [ + 5, + 27, + 36, + 38, + [ + 44, + 45 + ], + 58 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "detailed , design of the product", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Regarding the detailed design of the product, Project Manager said they would talk about the prototype. User interface said they wanted an ergonomic shape, they chose wood for the prototype, it would have on/off button, volume and channel control, menu control, voice recognition control and an LCD screen. Industrial Designer, Project Manager, User Interface and Marketing discussed where the microphone should be: in the top, under the flip or in the side.", + "title": "Group Discussion about the Detailed Design of the Product", + "relevant_turns": [ + 5, + 27, + 36, + 38, + [ + 44, + 45 + ], + 58 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "detailed , design of the prototype", + "speaker": "User Interface" + }, + "summary": "User Interface said that changing the actual shape of the buttons to economical ones and verifying that the weight was heavy enough to feel like you were holding something could improve the detailed design of the prototype.", + "title": "User Interface View on the Design of the Prototype", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 66, + 88 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "detailed , design of the prototype", + "speaker": "User Interface" + }, + "summary": "User Interface remarked that the detailed design of the prototype could be improved by working in the shape of the buttons and the weight of the remote. About the weight, User Interface said they could have possibly made it a lot thinner, but they didn't do it because people said that they don't like something too light because people feel they don't have enough control over it.", + "title": "User Interface View on the Design of the Prototype", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 66, + 88 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "evaluation criteria , detailed design", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Project Manager started by saying that the meeting agenda would be the evaluation criteria of the detailed design. User Interface mentioned that they decided that they wanted an ergonomic shape, made of wood, and a customizable colour, also said that in terms of function, you had to be able to turn the TV on and off, volume and channel control, menu control and voice recognition control, also said that in an additional feature on the back you could have your own customized backing and supposed users could do the same thing on the flip case on the front. So make this a highly customizable remote control. The Industrial Designer stated that they haven't specified where the speaker or the microphone would be placed. Project Manager said that it would be better to place it under the flip but User Interface asked that if you've already got the remote control in your hand, and you need to open the flip to use the voice, why would you use the voice, why not just use your hand? Because the whole point of the voice was that if the remote control were sitting there, you could just use your voice.", + "title": "Discussion about Evaluation Criteria", + "relevant_turns": [ + 3, + 5, + 27, + 29, + [ + 35, + 36 + ], + [ + 44, + 47 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "evaluation criteria , detailed design", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Project Manager, detailed design meeting, prototype presentation; and evaluation criteria, finance, from the management, and production evaluation. User Interface, decided, ergonomic shape, the material, chose was wood, and the colour would be customisable; in terms of function, be able to turn the TV on and off, volume and channel control, menu control, voice recognition control, and, incorporated the LCD screen on the flip panel as part of the design; yellow LCD; red triangles, toggles for changing the volume; green, channel changing, numeric pad in the dark blue; ability to turn off the voice recognition; customised backing. Industrial Designer, the speaker or the microphone, placed, depends on the, design of the circuit board. Project Manager, better under the flip. User Interface, point of the voice, remote control, sitting there, just use, voice.", + "title": "Discussion about Evaluation Criteria", + "relevant_turns": [ + 3, + 5, + 27, + 29, + [ + 35, + 36 + ], + [ + 44, + 47 + ] + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "Industrial Designer : I'm sorry to be late .", + "Project Manager : Welcome back everybody .", + "User Interface : Yeah . Thanks .", + "Project Manager : So this meeting agenda will be the detailed design meeting . And uh opening and uh P_M_s {gap} of the meet minutes , uh prototype presentation from uh Christine and uh Agnes .", + "Industrial Designer : Agnes , yes .", + "Project Manager : Yes and uh evaluation criteria . The finance , it's uh from my side , from the management , and uh production evaluation . Then uh closing . So we have forty minutes to discuss and uh finalise and close the product and project and to move further , okay , so {disfmarker} Okay , let's talk about uh maybe first uh for the prototype .", + "User Interface : Mm , okay .", + "Project Manager : So I handle to {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : I've done a presentation , but it pretty much covers work that we've both done , so if I'm missing anything , Christine can just correct me .", + "Project Manager : So shall I go to {disfmarker} sorry .", + "Industrial Designer : Uh thank you , so you did a PowerPoint presentation , good for you . {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Yep . S Okay , let's go to A_M_I_ .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} It's not the biggest PowerPoint presentation in the world , but {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} So in two or three or {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Three . Um . {vocalsound} No it's {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Probably . Technical pa I would think .", + "User Interface : think it's the last one . No , then this is {vocalsound} the la yeah , that one , final design .", + "Marketing : Ha .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : It is named appropriately , you just couldn't see the name .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} Um okay , can I have the mouse ?", + "Project Manager : Yes .", + "User Interface : Thanks . Alright , so from {disfmarker} when we were discussing specifying the case in the last meeting , we decided that we wanted an ergonomic shape , the material that we chose was wood , and uh the colour would be customisable , 'cause you can stain the wood whatever colour . Um , so in terms of function , you have to be able to turn the T_V_ on and off , volume and channel control , menu control , voice recognition control , and we've incorporated the L_C_D_ screen on the flip panel as part of the design , if we figure out it's too expensive , well then you just take it off . {vocalsound} Um , so {vocalsound} to unveil our lovely product . This is our remote control , with the flip panel as you can see .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : So if you lift up the panel , you can see the lovely yellow L_C_D_ display . {vocalsound} Um , this is actually hard to do . The yellow button you have is the on off button , so it's really big , hard to miss . You have the the red um triangles are the toggles for changing the volume . So up {disfmarker} volume up , down {disfmarker} volume down . The green are the channel changing . {vocalsound} S And it's one of those very light , very touchable displays . And then you have the numeric pad in the dark blue at the bottom , and on the right-hand side you have the access to the menu on the T_V_ , and on the left-hand side you have the the the ability to turn off the voice recognition . So this is pretty much what we had on the white board the last time .", + "Project Manager : Mm-hmm .", + "User Interface : So .", + "Industrial Designer : Um and uh I could {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} Oh yes .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah the d", + "User Interface : Additional feature on the back is that you can have your own customised backing and I suppose you could do the same thing on the flip case on the front . So that you can really make this a highly highly customisable remote control .", + "Industrial Designer : We haven't um uh specified where the speaker or the microphone will be placed . That depends on the uh s design of the circuit board inside and uh what room is left um {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : I think the microphone is on on the top , uh on the middle , the {disfmarker} under the flip .", + "Industrial Designer : Yes , okay . Uh-huh .", + "Project Manager : So that will be the safe , so p any {disfmarker} the chip {disfmarker} it's not on the chip because you need to have microphone {gap} to {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : No , I mean it depends on the design of the circuit board .", + "Project Manager : Yes .", + "User Interface : But it shouldn't be under the flip either , because you can have the remote control closed , but you still might want to activate it by voice .", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} Uh it's it's {disfmarker} Yeah , but uh uh my opinion I think it's better under the flip because whenever you want to uh the talk , okay , so then you can speak then you can close it . But if you put it on the on the flip , okay , then uh technical I don't think it's uh feasible , 'cause most of the time you speak then it will be recognised .", + "User Interface : But if you've already got the remote control in your hand you need to open the flip to use the voice , why use the voice , why not just use your hand ? I mean the whole point of the voice is that if the remote control is sitting there and I'm too lazy to reach over and pick it up , I can just use my voice .", + "Industrial Designer : Maybe I've got my hand in the popcorn bowl and I'm holding my cup of Coca-Cola in the other hand .", + "User Interface : Yeah . And you don't wanna let go of either one . {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : I don't wanna say . Louder . {vocalsound} Yeah .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} I mean it doesn't have to be on the flip , it can be on the side somewhere .", + "Marketing : Can also be on the side .", + "Project Manager : Yeah , the sides maybe is good .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Mm-hmm .", + "User Interface : So , I mean I can pass this around if anyone wants to {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Yes . So it's maybe good idea .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , y better you pass it around with a napkin . {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound} No , because y you can easily put a microphone on the side that would have no problem would haven't been {disfmarker} not be damaged or anything , and it'd be accessible all the time to voice .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Yes . Yeah {vocalsound} .", + "User Interface : Yeah , exactly .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : So it's maybe good idea . S s", + "Industrial Designer : It's um {disfmarker} It's um {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Compliments to the artist .", + "Industrial Designer : You need to work on the weight a little bit . {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Yes .", + "Marketing : Uh {vocalsound} .", + "Project Manager : Okay . S {vocalsound} I'm fine , I'm satisfi", + "User Interface : And maybe the shape of the buttons ,", + "Project Manager : I'm satisfied .", + "User Interface : the little egg shapes aren't the most economical , but {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} We're glad you're satisfied .", + "Project Manager : Of course it's it's it's looks more heo heavy , but I think when it's completely {gap} maybe it's a less weight .", + "User Interface : Yeah . I mean this is plasticene .", + "Project Manager : Yes .", + "User Interface : There's only so much you can do . We could have possibly made it a lot thinner as well . {vocalsound} But {disfmarker} And part of the thing is m a lot of people say that they don't like something that's too light , because they don't feel like they have enough control over it .", + "Industrial Designer : Mm-hmm .", + "User Interface : So I mean maybe this is excessively heavy , but I think it needs to have some weight ,", + "Project Manager : Yep .", + "User Interface : it needs to feel like you're still holding something . {vocalsound} So that's pretty much it for our presentation actually .", + "Project Manager : That's your uh prototype model ?", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Okay , that's good , thank you very much .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : So any comments or uh {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Well , the prototype is is very well within the design and ideas that we've we've talked about on the previous meetings .", + "Project Manager : Okay ." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "test", + "file_id": 34, + "turns": [ + 62, + 351 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "actual component , remote controls , remote design", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "The actual components found in most remote controls were TA double one eight three five chip, PCB board, and LED screen.", + "title": "Types of Actual Components Found in Most Remote Controls", + "relevant_turns": [ + 2, + [ + 135, + 137 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "actual components , remote controls , remote design", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "The actual components found in most remote controls include TA double one eight three five cause it sends out standard signals, PCB board which contacts really close together and then fired out in the LED sequence of on and off bursts.", + "title": "Types of Actual Components Found in Most Remote Controls", + "relevant_turns": [ + 2, + [ + 135, + 137 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "drawbacks , battery option , conserve battery life , design , availability , actual components", + "speaker": "Industrial Manager" + }, + "summary": "Dynamo charging were too bulky and had no charging and basically looked like wind-up radio thus need to wind up the remote control before use though not so long and solar charging people have light and its artificial light and no need to charge and considering size solar takes lesser space and dynamo take more space and for kinetic charging easy to get, portable, smaller in size and runs for a long time. Industrial manager suggested that to conserve battery life the remote should be in a standby mode if not being used.", + "title": "Benefits and Drawbacks of Each Battery Option", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 6, + 105 + ], + 141 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "drawbacks , battery option , conserve battery life , design , availability , actual components", + "speaker": "Industrial Manager" + }, + "summary": "Industrial Designer; There\u2019s actually no rechargeable option available; I saw the standard double A and triple A which we thought were a bit too bulky at the moment, dynamo charging, I thought that might be a bit silly to be honest; its basically like wind-up radio; So you wind up your remote control before you use it; I mean can you pick it up and then wind it for two minutes and then that's it for the night; You wouldn't have to wind it for very long, but I don't think its really sort of necessary when you think of the next two options, like the solar charging cause most people have the light on in the room anyway so they could get when you got TV.;Then regarding those sizes; we have to take into consideration size also, so maybe a standard triple A might take lesser space; dynamo would take more space cause you actually need a physical sort of handle to wind up; solar is from the sun; I don't think it counts electric lights; people who live in basement flats there's not that many; most people also watch TV in the night; The kinetic charging which is like you get it in wrist watches; don't even notice it, the amount of probably moving around you'd be doing all the time would charge it up; don't think you'd ever need to actually physically start shaking it up to make it work; It charges into some form of it's a smaller cell, would last for; long.", + "title": "Benefits and Drawbacks of Each Battery Option", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 6, + 105 + ], + 141 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "design ; actual components ; case material", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "The team discussed that the design of case material would be made in two ways titanium and plastic but since titanium would be expensive, so they opted to have the mold out of plastic but have a rubber cover for easy peeling off.", + "title": "Way Forward of the Case Material Design", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 146, + 194 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "design , actual components , case material", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Industrial Designer; there's the plastic which I think we were gonna go for; the main problems with the; case housing, it is expensive, and rubber; people like this spongy; so perhaps something made of rubber; wood I think it would be a bit impractical. Titanium very expensive just to process; thinking more of the buttons because the buttons which they've said that they've put across; used in some stress ball manufacture and it's meant to be anti-RSI. I'm not sure how that would work because surely your fingers would still be moving over the short distances but that's what they said. The problem with the casing; there's quite a few design restrictions that they've got on the shape of the case. If you go for titanium they can only do a standard box shape, whereas if you come to plastic; they can do sort of curved shapes.", + "title": "Way Forward of the Case Material Design", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 146, + 194 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "design ; actual components ; interface design", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "The interface would of be sort of touch screen, a bare PCB circuit board in different colors or an LCD screen type that may not take up much space.", + "title": "Types of Screen Buttons for Interface Designs", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 198, + 233 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "design , actual components , interface design", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Industrial Designer; we were planning to do some sort of touch screen; instead of having you could have just a bare PCB circuit board and I'm sure you could probably get it in different colors and so just by touching it with your finger it'd make the connection over if you had them close enough, that would be one option. The second option they offer rubber buttons, but I thought that an LCD type of screen cause one they're incredibly thin and don't take up much space, two they you can have them in a sort of array; arrange the buttons on the screen in a sort of set thing and you could have them like a touch; on the LCD screen; the problem with it basically is that its flat and so you can't do lots of curved things with it.", + "title": "Types of Screen Buttons for Interface Designs", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 198, + 233 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "stylus", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "The team thought that the sort of stylus could pull out just like the palm pop thing, easily lost, irritating to use, and also get spoilt.", + "title": "Drawbacks for Sort of Stylus", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 232, + 245 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "stylus", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Some sort of stylus could pull out just like one of the palm pop thing, it could get easily lost for some people and might as well get spoilt especially the touch-pad.", + "title": "Drawbacks for Sort of Stylus", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 232, + 245 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "Marketing 's ides , mirrors , design , actual components", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "The team thought that since the market for the product targets both guys and women and guys they don't look at themselves so often, thus no need for the mirrors.", + "title": "Value of the Mirrors to the Device", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 267, + 280 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "mirrors", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Marketing; Is it possible that when we open our flip-top shell its a little compact mirror and when you press a button it then goes onto the phone display. Project Manager; We're marketing to guys as much as; women. Well it's a remote control", + "title": "Value of the Mirrors to the Device", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 267, + 280 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "design ; availability ; actual components", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "The actual components discussed were the signaling component which was a popular chip, battery options, casing options which were wood, titanium, plastic, and rubber, and circuit board options like PCB board.", + "title": "Design and Availability of Actual Components", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 0, + 2 + ], + [ + 15, + 25 + ], + 74, + 135, + [ + 146, + 148 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "design ; availability ; actual components", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "The various components were discussed including the signaling component, which was a popular chip used in every remote, the PCB board for the circuit board. Power options were normal batteries, solar charging cells, dynamo, kinetic, and a combination of solar charging cells and normal batteries, the casing options were wood, titanium, plastic, and rubber. The merits and demerits of each option were considered.", + "title": "Design and Availability of Actual Components", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 0, + 2 + ], + [ + 15, + 25 + ], + 74, + [ + 135, + 139 + ], + [ + 146, + 194 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "solar charging", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer" + }, + "summary": "Industrial designer discussed the advantages and disadvantages of using solar charging cells as a source of power in the remote control. Industrial designer also suggested combining solar charging cells with normal batteries in order to elongate the life of the batteries.", + "title": "Options for Power Source", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 15, + 39 + ], + [ + 74, + 105 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "solar charging", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer" + }, + "summary": "Industrial Designer mentioned solar charging cells as one of the options for power mentioning also their limitations in terms of the effect on the exterior design, nonresistance to dropping, and cost. Industrial Designer agreed with Marketing's suggestion to combine the solar charging cells with normal batteries.", + "title": "Options for Power Source", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 15, + 39 + ], + [ + 74, + 105 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "rubber button , circuit board", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer" + }, + "summary": "Industrial designer gave a detailed description of the PCB circuit board and how it functions with the rubber buttons.", + "title": "Details of Circuit Board", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 135, + 139 + ], + [ + 200, + 224 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "rubber button , circuit board", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer" + }, + "summary": "The detailed design and operational options for PCB circuit board were discussed, either the use of LCD touch display or rubber buttons.", + "title": "Details of Circuit Board", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 135, + 139 + ], + [ + 200, + 224 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "case , titanium", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer" + }, + "summary": "Industrial Designer suggested various casing like titanium, plastic, and rubber. Industrial Designer also point out that changing color might not available for titanium because it's so expensive.", + "title": "Case Material Options", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 146, + 168 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "case , titanium", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer" + }, + "summary": "Industrial Designer; wood; a bit impractical. Titanium very expensive just to process; rubber; people like this spongy feel this year, so perhaps something made of rubber; the problem with the casing is that there's quite a few design restrictions that they've got on the shape of the case. If you go for titanium; only do a standard box shape; plastic; they can do sort of curved shapes; you could make it available in the titanium; it would be so expensive to buy a new case for it, because of the expense of how much titanium is.", + "title": "Case Material Options", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 146, + 194 + ] + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "Industrial Designer : Okay . Um this is uh all about the design of the actual components and the availability of the components we have in stock at the moment . Okay , first uh the {disfmarker} Into the method . The the main idea of the whole thing is just so you sh you just press buttons and it should activate things on the T_V_ and we discussed last meeting that it should be easy to find . Um also in this study I've looked into the availability of some of the materials , 'cause some of the things that we looked at last time aren't {disfmarker} un unfortunately aren't available .", + "Project Manager : 'Kay . {vocalsound} .", + "Industrial Designer : Um , findings , I've got my nice little picture there . This is uh the chip called the T_A_ double one eight three five which is what's used in pretty much every remote control 'cause it sends out standard signals , based on your input and um it's pretty much used for all all T_V_ remotes at the moment .", + "Project Manager : 'Kay .", + "Industrial Designer : Um and then we we're loo looking into battery options .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : There's um actually no rechargeable option available , so we {disfmarker} I saw the um the standard double A_ and triple A_ which we thought were a bit bit too bulky at the moment , dynamo charging , I thought that that might be a bit silly to be to be honest ,", + "Project Manager : Wa {vocalsound} can you explain that ?", + "Industrial Designer : people won't {disfmarker} it's it's basically like wind-up radio .", + "Project Manager : Like a {disfmarker} right , okay .", + "Industrial Designer : So you wind up your remote control before you use it .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : How {vocalsound} {disfmarker} what kind of {disfmarker} how l long can you get out of that ,", + "Industrial Designer : It might {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : I mean can you pick it up and then wind it for two minutes and then that's it for the night ? Or {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : You {disfmarker} Yeah , yeah , oh yeah I presu you wouldn't have to wind it for very long , but I don't I don't think it's really sort of necessary when you th you think of the next two options , like the the solar charging , 'cause most people have the light on in the room anyway so they could get {disfmarker} when when you got T_V_ .", + "Project Manager : That doesn't count though does it ?", + "Marketing : Does does light charge as as sunlight does ?", + "Project Manager : I thought it was U_V_ like {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : No .", + "Marketing : Artificial light ?", + "Industrial Designer : Is it ? Alright i", + "Project Manager : Any , any {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Has to be solar .", + "User Interface : Yep . Regarding those sizes , which one you think will be light because we we have to take into consideration size also , so maybe a standard triple A_ might take lesser space or {disfmarker} and dynamo might take more space .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah it would the d yeah the dynamo would take more space 'cause you actually need a physical sort of handle to wind up .", + "Project Manager : I'm pretty sure that solar is from the sun .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , okay .", + "Project Manager : Uh , I don't think it counts electric lights", + "Marketing : Mm . Artificial light , no .", + "Project Manager : no , but I mean not many {disfmarker} you don't want to limit your market .", + "Marketing : That's going to {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : I mean people who live in basement flats there's not that many people , but there are people .", + "User Interface : Uh {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : I know ,", + "Industrial Designer : But {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : different parts of the world too , if we're if we're marketing internationally .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah", + "User Interface : Right .", + "Industrial Designer : and most people most people also watch T_V_ in the in the night anyway .", + "User Interface : Night .", + "Project Manager : Mm , but then it would be charging through the day , I think the point is that it charges through the day and then you've got it charged for the evening .", + "Industrial Designer : But I I think I think the the next one's the best anyway .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "Industrial Designer : The the kinetic charging which is like you get it in r you get it in wrist watches", + "Project Manager : Yeah I've seen {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : and you d you don't even notice it . I mean the amount the amount of probably moving around you'd be doing all the time would would charge it up , I don't think you'd ever need to actually physically start shaking it up to make it work .", + "User Interface : And are these like uh {disfmarker} what are the life of the kinetic battery , it like it runs for long time ?", + "Industrial Designer : Um yeah it's {disfmarker} it charges into um some form of {disfmarker} it's a smaller cell which it charges into and uh the si the size sort of a watch a watch battery ,", + "User Interface : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : 'cause they use them quite frequently in watches .", + "User Interface : Okay .", + "Industrial Designer : And that'll that would l would last for um well I do I d I'm not entirely sure how long it would last but I've never seen one run out {gap} .", + "User Interface : We c", + "Project Manager : But then if you think about a watch , it's on your wrist so it's on your whole bod it's on your body the whole time", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : so you're walking around , you're doing things , it is moving a lot of the time . If you'd {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah and {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : I mean you switch the T_V_ on , then you put it on the side , then you pick it up to change it and then you put it on the side .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah but then again", + "Project Manager : Is it really gonna be enough ?", + "Industrial Designer : I I think it is because if you think about it , the watch , although it's only a tiny amount it's it's um {vocalsound} it's always moving for the whole day and they don't run out over night when you leave them on the side .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "Industrial Designer : And th for the same the same reason , you're only using it for a v incredibly short amount of time just to send the signal and then you're finished with it", + "Project Manager : So it's not {disfmarker} the draw on it isn't {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : and you put it {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : no no I do I don't think the the draw on it would be {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm . Mm .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "Marketing : Could I just ask {disfmarker} referring back to solar charging , is that compatible with um standard batteries ?", + "Industrial Designer : Mm .", + "Marketing : I mean , could people put standard batteries in but with a s you know they could leave it in the sunlight for solar charging", + "Industrial Designer : Ye yeah I think I th uh g y you could have a dual um power thing", + "Marketing : or the two things not compatible ?", + "Project Manager : Like a dual kind of .", + "Industrial Designer : but the the thing with the solar cells is you would need to put them on the case and they {disfmarker} because , if you lie {gap} {disfmarker} on a calculator they they're qui they're quite big and they all they all look i identical .", + "Marketing : Mm . So that affects the exterior design .", + "User Interface : Solar would be slightly {gap} expensives .", + "Project Manager : Expensive as well . What kind of price are we looking at for {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : They're they're expensive , they don't {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : It's twelve point f", + "Project Manager : I presume the normal batteries are the cheapest ?", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah the normal batteries would be the cheapest I'd presume then it would actually be the the solar charging ones , um but the {disfmarker} It's i I think they're not very resistant to dropping ,", + "Project Manager : Solar .", + "Industrial Designer : 'cause if you drop stuff {disfmarker} yeah if you if you have y", + "Project Manager : Well they're not designed {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : the size you'd need to charge a remote wouldn't be that big but I mean if {disfmarker} remotes always get thrown around and stuff , so .", + "Project Manager : Practical-wise okay .", + "Industrial Designer : Y I think {disfmarker} yeah , practically . I mean calculators you don't really throw around a lot {vocalsound} whereas remotes you do ,", + "Project Manager : You do get a bit of wear", + "Industrial Designer : they can t", + "Project Manager : but don't calculators have a battery in them as well ?", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah they do , they {disfmarker} yeah they've got dual things , but they're {disfmarker} the batteries are smaller I think .", + "Project Manager : Mm .", + "Marketing : Mm .", + "User Interface : Another question is like {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Again it de", + "User Interface : sorry . W w which one would last the longest , because we don't want customers to be like you know charging like a mobile phone every day .", + "Industrial Designer : Mm .", + "User Interface : A remote control , like ,", + "Industrial Designer : W m yeah", + "User Interface : so we have to s look at the life also .", + "Marketing : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : so the {disfmarker} Yeah the the s if you if you had something du uh using the standard batteries and the solar charging , um , I don't think you'd {disfmarker} I think the {disfmarker} it would d well you know how long the standard double A_s would last in {disfmarker} or triple A_s would last .", + "Marketing : It would just detract from the attractiveness of the of the whole feature ,", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah I think i I think it would , yeah .", + "Marketing : i {vocalsound} it's not gonna add anything , okay .", + "Project Manager : Okay , can we add in uh an attachment to closing feature ?", + "User Interface : Okay .", + "Project Manager : Can we think about that ? 'Cause if we're doing the kinetic thing and it's {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Shouldn't we do some market research on that first before we add it in because I I personally {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Well add it in to think about um", + "Marketing : right , okay .", + "Project Manager : because , where am I ? If it is the kinetic thing and it is small and it is portable and it is a different shape and the kinetic is something people don't do kind of {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : we're doing something original and different um but if you wore it if it's something you could just clip on your pocket then you would have that less , you you wouldn't lose it so much .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : But then maybe that's looking at someone who's just sitting on their own rather than", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : the eternal battle for control of the controls .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : It's not something that's come up in any of our uh focus groups and market research ,", + "Project Manager : No .", + "Marketing : it's not a thing that people are looking for", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "User Interface : So {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : when we threw it open to the field yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay .", + "Marketing : But it's something to put on the side to think about maybe .", + "Project Manager : Okay , right .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay , well I'll move on .", + "Project Manager : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : Um , my second part of my findings uh the mo most current remotes use this silicone uh P_C_B_ board which {disfmarker} pr printed circuit board , which basically has these contacts that are really close together and then when you press down on the rubber button , it'll connect the circuit and each each switch is connected to two uh different legs on the chip and so sends a different message and that then uh gets translated by the chip into a code and then it's fired out of this L_E_D_ in the sequence of l on and off bursts .", + "Project Manager : What kind of things do we have to consider there ? Can we {disfmarker} what kind of size , does it come in varying sizes or is it just one size and we would have to fit the design of {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Well well this {disfmarker} the thi the thing about is um they they can be as big or as small as you want them to be because you can you can print circuit board like that that it's it's simply spaced like that so you can have {disfmarker} fit the n the size of the nine buttons in . If you if you see how thin the tracks are , you could you could s you could put them virtually right next to each other and have a much smaller switch on each one ,", + "Project Manager : Mm-hmm . Okay .", + "Industrial Designer : if you if you wanted to but um the {disfmarker} there is an option to do to do it like that , or you could have some sort of array of switches which I'll speak about in the next bit", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "Industrial Designer : so that {disfmarker} And then to {disfmarker} uh yeah , so to conserve battery life the remote should be in a standby mode no while not being used . Now what I was thinking about that was {disfmarker} 'cause sometimes when y when you have these things , they've got little lights on behind the buttons , so you can see what all the buttons are , like on a mobile phone , they do it more often than on a than on a T_V_ remote ,", + "Project Manager : Mm-hmm .", + "User Interface : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : but you could you could have lights behind the buttons and um after like five or ten seconds of not being used I'd have that turned off , if we decided to go for buttons that could light up .", + "User Interface : Okay .", + "Industrial Designer : Um , the case material , I've a been sent what the factory can actually give us , the {disfmarker} there's the plastic which I think we were gonna go for anyway as the main case {disfmarker} case housing", + "Project Manager : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : and the the main problems with the {disfmarker} well you could go for wood but I think it would be a bit impractical . Titanium um very expensive just to process ,", + "Project Manager : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : which to make it is expensive , and rubber , well you're saying that people like this uh spongy feel this year , so perhaps uh some something made of rubber ,", + "Marketing : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : but I was thinking more of the buttons , because the buttons which they've they've said that they've they've put across are what is used in some stress ball manufacture and it's meant to be anti R_S_I_ .", + "Marketing : Okay .", + "Project Manager : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : I'm no I'm not sure how that would work because surely your fingers would still be moving over the short distances but that's what they said . Um the problem with the casing is that uh there's quite {vocalsound} um there's quite a few design restrictions that they've got on the shape of the case . If you go for titanium they can only do a standard box shape , whereas if you come to plastic they can they can be a little more {disfmarker} they can they can do sort of curved shapes . But whether whether or not {disfmarker} because we'd have it in two separate units", + "User Interface : Second thing is {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Hinged , yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : for the flip phone .", + "User Interface : yeah and second question is like , a mobile you can change the cover , you call it a skin or whatever .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "User Interface : So in this case if you're looking at like a customer can change the colour like from green , parrot green to chilli red or something like that .", + "Marketing : Mm .", + "User Interface : So is that feature available in like uh titanium ,", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah I th", + "User Interface : or it's like only specific to plastic or {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Uh . Yeah in in titanium I don't I don't think it would be available at all really , the ju just {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : it w well you could make it available in the titanium , it was just it would be so expensive to buy a new case for it , because of the expense of how much titanium is is {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : it's light and strong but I think it should be left for aircraft design rather than for for a remote .", + "Marketing : It does mark quite easily too if you let it fall . I've got a mobile phone myself which is titanium and it does mark very easily if you drop it .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , yeah .", + "Marketing : I was just wondering if we make the basic mould out of plastic but have like a rubber cover that goes over ,", + "Industrial Designer : Rubber , yeah .", + "Marketing : that would give the spongy feel , that also allows us to kind of have different fasciae for the phone .", + "Industrial Designer : And you can peel them off yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : So instead of the fascia that comes off being plastic , the fascia that comes off would be the rubber ,", + "Marketing : Like a rubber sleeve almost , yeah .", + "User Interface : Something like {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : like those pens that you get with the grip , that you can you can pull that off .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Alright .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Mm .", + "User Interface : That could be a good idea .", + "Industrial Designer : Hmm .", + "Marketing : Mm .", + "User Interface : It could {disfmarker} it would be comfortable to hold on also .", + "Project Manager : Okay . Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : T", + "Marketing : Very cheap way of changing the look of it and people can just buy a new one if they want to .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Well that's been really popular with mobile phones so I don't see why not .", + "Marketing : Mm . Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Also the {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : 'Kay .", + "Industrial Designer : just just going back to the interface designs with the buttons , the {disfmarker} I kno we were planning to do some sort of touch screen .", + "Project Manager : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : Now what I was saying before about instead of having {disfmarker} you could have just a bare P_C_B_ circuit board and I'm sure you could probably get it in different colours and so just by touching it with your finger it'd make the connection over {disfmarker} if you had them close enough , that would be one option . Um the second option th they offer rubber buttons , but I thought that an L_C_D_ type of screen {disfmarker} 'cause one they're incredibly thin um and don't take up much space , two they {disfmarker} you can have them in a sort of array and you can arrange the buttons on the screen in a sort of set thing and you could have them like a touch", + "User Interface : Sorry I didn't get the last part , you're talking of {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : display . Uh what what {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Just what you said I I didn't get the uh meaning of it completely , you're saying like {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Oh on the on the L_C_D_ screen you could {disfmarker} becau you could fit it {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Uh-huh .", + "Industrial Designer : the problem with it basically is that it's flat and so you can't do lots of curve {disfmarker} curved things with it ,", + "User Interface : Okay .", + "Project Manager : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : but um you can {disfmarker} you wouldn't have {disfmarker} with the L_C_D_ you'd have the wires coming off , you wouldn't have that with the with the L_C_D_ , you'd only have that with the printed circuit board .", + "Marketing : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : With {disfmarker} W also with the {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : I don't {disfmarker} s sorry to interrupt , I don't see why the curved thing is a problem , if we for example had a shell , once we open that {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Oh it would be flat inside .", + "Industrial Designer : You could have a flat screen inside , yeah ,", + "Marketing : yeah , so it'd be f yeah , yeah .", + "Project Manager : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : but I'm just wondering whether we want an L_C_D_ screen inside .", + "Marketing : Have I misunderstood you ?", + "Industrial Designer : It wouldn't be like full colour , it would just be black and white ,", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : but there'd be touch touch buttons ,", + "User Interface : 'Kay .", + "Industrial Designer : so you wouldn't be pressing down on 'em , w or we could have rubber buttons which are made of this material which is anti-R_S_I_ .", + "Project Manager : I think it would be good to have a contrast between , if the whole thing is gonna be this rubber thing it would be good to open it up and see something quite fancy looking inside .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : Is rubber . Mm .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Now how would you distinguish , if you had it bare , how would you distinguish where you had to press , I mean {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah I hadn't I hadn't really thought of that to be honest .", + "Project Manager : Uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : I just had another idea , I don't know if it helps with that , but just to do with the R_S_I_ . {vocalsound} Is it possible , just as an option , when we open it up , people can use their fingers to press the button , or we have inside like a small pointer thing when people want to {vocalsound} .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah you could , you could have some sort of stylus that you could pull out", + "Project Manager : Like one of the palm pop thing .", + "Industrial Designer : but I I think they could get a bit easily lost ,", + "Marketing : Mm .", + "User Interface : Absolutely , f for somebody who {gap} very often , if he would {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : 'cause I had {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : It would have to be attached .", + "Marketing : They're easy to replace as well , cheap .", + "Industrial Designer : Hmm .", + "User Interface : a person who switches channels very often or does use a particular function very often will find it very irritating to use a {gap}", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah . Yeah .", + "User Interface : and he might spoil the touch-pad very fast compared to a button like , if you keep punching with an pointer or whatever .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah okay .", + "Marketing : Yeah just a thought {disfmarker} they wouldn't actually need one and they could use anything they've got , couldn't they ? 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Yeah yeah that that would be fairly simple ,", + "User Interface : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : I mean you'd you'd actually have two separate {disfmarker} you'd have two separate circuit boards but they'd be joined by wires or like some cabling between them ,", + "User Interface : Okay . Okay .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : 'cause in the in the actual flip bit you'd have some linking .", + "Marketing : I'll just raise another point while it occurs to me , it kind of applies to both our designers here , so I'm not sure how it would fit in .", + "Industrial Designer : Mm .", + "Marketing : If we flip open , now you know how you've got some mirrors in nightclubs that are mirrors when you turn to them and you turn away and it gives like an advertising display , you seen those ?", + "Project Manager : No .", + "Marketing : And they kind of respond to the turn of your body . Is it possible that when we open our flip-top shell it's a little compact mirror and when you press a button it then goes onto the phone display {disfmarker} th uh the remote control display thing .", + "Project Manager : We're marketing to guys as much as we are to women .", + "Industrial Designer : Um .", + "Marketing : They don't look at themselves ? Just a thought .", + "Project Manager : Well it's a remote control , you were sitting watching T_V_ are you gonna want to sort of open it and say oh shit I should go and have a shower and do my hair before I put the T_ {disfmarker} {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : Yeah . I know what you mean , it's with us using the ideas for a mobile ph {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : it's with us using the ideas for mobile phones I kinda got sidetracked onto that I think , okay .", + "Project Manager : Yeah , no , no .", + "Marketing : {gap} trying to think of other features we can build in that wouldn't cost too much", + "Project Manager : Mm .", + "Marketing : but {gap} maybe we'll leave that one on the side .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "Marketing : 'Kay .", + "Industrial Designer : I mean you can {disfmarker} you could do it , you could have a {disfmarker} 'cause if you if you just put the full charge through an L_C_D_ display it'll completely blank it out ,", + "Marketing : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : but I don't know if you could get any mirror effect on it , I'm not sure about {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Oh I think {gap} forget about the mirror", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} Okay , okay .", + "Marketing : that was just a very quick passing thought yeah {vocalsound} ." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "train", + "file_id": 75, + "turns": [ + 6, + 19 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "recap , last meeting", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Project Manager said that in the last meeting, the marketing manager presented the working method, and gathered advice from others to see how to best market the product without exceeding the budget. 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Uh in general {vocalsound} the idea is that it should be something that is not difficult to use . Um it's also an item that people lose a lot . So we should address that . And , of course , it should be something s s that is very simple to use . In addition to that to make it sell , of course , uh the marketing manager w wishes that it be very attractive ,", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : or like she says put some sizzle into it in one way or another so that the people are buying it now because , in particular with smaller items , that's a very important fact , 'cause um if they say , well , I go home and think about it , that won't work . Um also mentioned was it should be uh {disfmarker} it should have a very short learning curve . And maybe it could be sold by using a slogan .", + "Industrial Designer : Hmm .", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} Our technical manager has then said that she feels it should have a chip", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : that has infra-red bits and it has an interface controls w interface that controls the chip . Therefore , messages uh will be controlled in the same manner . There should be extra features like lid buttons , maybe a beep . If too many buttons are pressed , mm uh uh child lock um and uh maybe a display clock so that people could um {disfmarker} you could see the time , you know , what show they want to watch . Also mentioned was uh maybe different shapes . So the components of the thing should be button , bulbs , infra infra-red bulbs , battery , chips , wires , and maybe some kind of a holder uh for the for the uh item . Francino who is our um", + "User Interface : Interface designer .", + "Project Manager : interface designer um uh has mentioned that the {disfmarker} that it , of course , should have an on-off button , and also has mentioned an interesting feature that it should have maybe a channel lock . Particularly with maybe small children that they couldn't uh watch a channel that is undesirable . It should be compact . Her personal favourite was it should be T-shaped . And maybe have an anar alarm-clock . And the material should possibly be not of non-allergic nature . Uh the different systems uh that exist are infra-red or radio-waves . Uh maybe it should have uh electri electrici electricity saving feature .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound} {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : And {vocalsound} even possibly a timer to {disfmarker} so that people can program {vocalsound} their favourite uh uh program on th right from the remote .", + "User Interface : Yes ." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "train", + "file_id": 65, + "turns": [ + 484, + 610 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "Prototype", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Project Manager suggested that the prototype should have a banana-shaped design and talked about additional functionalities such as wheels and a speaker unit, so as not to lose the device; after that, Project Manager mentioned that the prototype would have a base and an additional base on the side, and mentioned that a wheel would be added to control volume and channels.", + "title": "Functionalities of the Prototype", + "relevant_turns": [ + 4, + [ + 6, + 8 + ], + [ + 29, + 31 + ], + 37, + 47, + 52, + 98, + 100 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "Prototype", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "All the ideas, during, presentations, to draw some sketch, final product; functionalities, wheels, speaker. Base station extra on the side, RF to beep, wheels to control the volumes and channels, turbo button; building a prototype; next meeting, work on the look and feel, design, work on the user interface.", + "title": "Functionalities of the Prototype", + "relevant_turns": [ + 4, + [ + 6, + 8 + ], + [ + 29, + 31 + ], + 37, + 47, + 52, + 98, + 100 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "Banana Shaped", + "speaker": "Project Manager , User Interface , Marketing" + }, + "summary": "Project Manager said that the prototype was going to have a banana shape. Industrial Designer said that the banana shape had less space to put the buttons, so Marketing asked how many buttons were needed. User Interface reminded them that the base station should have something that could fit on a banana-shaped object. Project Manager said that the start was good, but that it should be more banana-shaped.", + "title": "Discussion About the Prototype Banana Shaped", + "relevant_turns": [ + 4, + 6, + 8, + [ + 12, + 13 + ], + [ + 16, + 21 + ], + [ + 27, + 32 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "Banana Shape", + "speaker": "Project Manager , User Interface , Marketing" + }, + "summary": "Industrial Designer said the banana shape had less space to put the buttons, Marketing asked how many buttons were needed. 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So we need to take some de decisions about um {vocalsound} about what we're going to do .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : So I I propose that you go to the whiteboard", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : and we're going to report all the ideas we had we had during this these presentations just to draw some sketch about what will be the prod final product", + "User Interface : Okay .", + "Project Manager : and uh where Superman go banana and uh {gap}", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : uh extra func functionalities such as wheels , um the speaker unit um well not in order {disfmarker} not to lost the um the device ,", + "Industrial Designer : Mm-hmm .", + "Project Manager : I do I don't remember you call it ?", + "Industrial Designer : That's right . The basis station . That's right .", + "Project Manager : Basis station , yeah . Uh so um {vocalsound} so we're going for a stylish banana shape .", + "User Interface : Yeah , so , I guess you wanna hold {disfmarker} like the way {disfmarker} the end of the banana you wanna kind of hold as ma you maybe wanna kinda hold like a gun rather than {disfmarker} 'cause you don't want it to point kind of towards the floor .", + "Project Manager : Yeah , right .", + "User Interface : So you know , so if you have like {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : What about what about this shape ? More or less .", + "Project Manager : We", + "Industrial Designer : There's less space on this to put with the buttons .", + "Project Manager : I if it i if it has really the model shape of a bana you could {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Yeah , but how many buttons do we need ?", + "Project Manager : the the starting is good but it could {disfmarker} it should have more the shape of a banana if you want to point really a at the thing . If you don't want to to to do that movement which is which is difficult {disfmarker} if you don't have to do it in fact , it's better . So ti time is running ,", + "Industrial Designer : Uh what about a {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : we have to we have to we have to to move forward . So let's skip to uh this uh this this this idea . Yeah .", + "User Interface : Okay , so {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : So we have this .", + "User Interface : So {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : We have a a basis um , how do you call it {gap} ?", + "Industrial Designer : The base station .", + "Project Manager : A base station .", + "Industrial Designer : Right .", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} We'll have a base station extra uh on the side .", + "User Interface : {gap} okay , so I guess we need , you know , something that can fit a banana shaped object .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Mm-hmm . Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Uh , we have a R_F_ for um for beeping for beeping .", + "Industrial Designer : That's right , yeah , we need that , yeah .", + "Project Manager : We need b R_F_ to beep .", + "User Interface : Okay , so it's uh {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : So we {disfmarker} that means we need a button on th on the on the basis .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Basis station .", + "Project Manager : Basis station , thank you . {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , yeah .", + "User Interface : Alright , so we need uh {disfmarker} okay .", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} Can you go quickly please ?", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Okay . {vocalsound} So we are going to add uh also um you {disfmarker} as you suggested the whee some wheels to control the volumes and channels and your tur turbo turbo uh button .", + "User Interface : Yeah . Yeah , which {disfmarker} I think it's it's probably best actually on the on the underneath of the the device ,", + "Industrial Designer : Turbo button .", + "Project Manager : Yeah , on the th yeah , maybe here .", + "User Interface : so you have {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : And the and the wheel a a at the level of the thumb for instance .", + "User Interface : Yes . Yeah , so you have the thumb kind of here .", + "Project Manager : And and you have two wheels .", + "User Interface : So yeah , you need one one here and one on on the other side , so you got volume an and channel .", + "Project Manager : Okay right . Good . So no L_C_D_ .", + "User Interface : And , uh {disfmarker} No L_C_D_ .", + "Project Manager : Okay great . {vocalsound} Um . {vocalsound} Very good .", + "User Interface : Oh we need a we need a power um on off switch as well .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Uh for the remote ?", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Oh , just the switch ,", + "Industrial Designer : Remotes don't have power on off switch .", + "Project Manager : no f not for the T_V_ for the T_V_ . Uh so you {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay . S no , that'll be controlled by the {disfmarker} those buttons'll be there already , yeah .", + "Marketing : What a", + "User Interface : Where ?", + "Industrial Designer : Means on the remote .", + "Project Manager : On the side .", + "User Interface : Okay .", + "Industrial Designer : Because remote is going to have both the interfaces , scroll as well as buttons . They are not going to cost you much , everything is in-house and now you don't want the traditional users to be apprehensive of this .", + "User Interface : Well , I dunno if the traditional user is gonna buy a a banana remote in the first place , you know .", + "Industrial Designer : Oh , yeah . That's that's another issue which I didn't think of .", + "User Interface : Y I mean you need to kind of keep it um {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : But you know our targets are very high , means fifty million Euros is the profit which we want make .", + "Marketing : What about {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Yeah , how many of these did we wanna sell ? I can't remember ,", + "Industrial Designer : Twenty five .", + "Project Manager : Twenty five .", + "Industrial Designer : Twelve point five is the profit on one .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Yeah , but how many units did we need to to sell {gap} ?", + "Industrial Designer : Uh forty th four . Point point four million ?", + "Marketing : Four millions ?", + "User Interface : Four point four million .", + "Industrial Designer : Point four million .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} That's a lot of fruit .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} In the market .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound} What about a {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Yeah . So . Well . No . Time is running , we have to close the meeting in a few minutes .", + "User Interface : Okay .", + "Project Manager : So , okay , the next step , you can come back to your seat .", + "User Interface : Okay .", + "Project Manager : The next step is to go for {vocalsound} {disfmarker} to f is to go to uh to building a prototype , based on this , okay ?", + "User Interface : Okay .", + "Project Manager : So next meeting you guys have to prepare the followi things . You have to uh work on the look and feel uh design and you have to work on the user interface , in fact you two you have to work together to model the first uh f first prototype .", + "Industrial Designer : Mm-hmm .", + "Project Manager : Uh Marketing Expert uh have to go to product evaluation .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Okay ?", + "Marketing : I wo what about adding the {disfmarker} this word spotting , keyword spotting recognition saying {gap} volume up volume down ?", + "Project Manager : It's too difficult .", + "Marketing : It's too difficult but people like innovation and that's really uh innovative and I don't know if it would cost a lot , just a few {disfmarker} five words .", + "Project Manager : It's not a possi it will not be possible to implement it for the next prototype , so t it's {disfmarker} in the next prototype so let's skip it .", + "User Interface : Uh .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound} Okay .", + "Industrial Designer : For the future prototypes . {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Yeah , maybe , for the n if if if it it works well , we'll go for uh an orange one .", + "User Interface : That can be the t That can be like the turbo banana plus plus commando .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Yeah yeah , honour the fruit .", + "Marketing : Plus plus , okay . 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Can I just ask you to introduce your officials for the record, please?", + "Kirsty Williams AM : Bore da, Lynne, and thank you for the invitation to join you. Eluned and I are joined this morning by Huw Morris, who's the group director at SHELL\u2014skills, higher education and lifelong learning\u2014and Marie Knox, who is deputy director, overseeing European transition.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : Okay, thank you very much, and thank you for coming. We'll go straight into questions, then, and the first questions are from Suzy Davies.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Thank you. I'd like to ask you both, if that's okay, a little bit about preparedness. But if I could start with higher education, I understand that\u2014I don't know, it must be about 18 months ago now\u2014Ken Skates told another committee in this place that there had been nine sector analyses done. Presumably, one of those was HE, because of the\u2014well, Welsh Government had a presence, and still does, in Brussels, related to higher education. Apparently, those have now been superseded by work that's been done by Cardiff University. I don't know if you've got any comments on that research, or whether it's been brought to your attention yet.", + "Kirsty Williams AM : Well, Suzy, following the vote, I was very keen that we work very closely with colleagues in higher education and further education, to get an understanding from on the ground about the potential impact. So, in terms of preparedness, we started that group in the September, and that work from that group, which includes both HE and FE, has been instrumental in helping the Government form its views, which were articulated in the Government's White Paper, 'Securing Wales' Future'. There has been ongoing work being done\u2014as the debate in London and Europe becomes a little bit more clear, then it becomes a little less clear, and then a little bit more clear, but, bearing in mind the difficulties of working in an ever-changing field, we have been refining those approaches. Each institution has been looking at their own institution, because, as you can imagine, although we have an overview of the sector, the challenges are very different for individual institutions\u2014so their exposure, for instance, to the number of European Union students that they have at their college, or the work that they might be doing with Horizon 2020, or their success\u2014and there has been considerable success in the HE field in securing structural funds for various projects\u2014the exposure and the potential impact of leaving the EU, in a 'no deal' or in a 'deal' scenario, is very, very different. But I don't know if, Huw, you want to talk any further.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Maybe just to use the 'no deal' scenario is probably the easiest,\u00a0isn't it?", + "Kirsty Williams AM : The 'no deal'?", + "Suzy Davies AM : Well, yes, because that's the worst-case scenario, so let's look at that one.", + "Huw Morris : As the Cabinet\u00a0Secretary mentioned, the higher education Brexit working group's\u00a0been meeting since September 2016 and has been looking at that in general. More recently, when the prospect of no deal became talked about, officials have been visiting individual institutions to talk to them about their preparedness for that. As you'll be aware, the funding for much of the activity is secured, we believe, even under a 'no deal' scenario, until December 2020; that's a letter we had from the Chief Secretary to the Treasury. I think the research you're referring to may be research that Cardiff University has been doing with the Bevan\u00a0Foundation and others. I know there's a report due to be launched later today. We have been doing our own research and looking at the impact on HE, FE and apprenticeship providers.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Well, that's really helpful because my understanding was that this Cardiff University research\u00a0had superseded all those nine sector analyses.", + "Huw Morris : That may be true for the economy brief. Certainly, there are published papers by Max Munday and a team at Cardiff University on the impact of Brexit on the Welsh economy, but for HE and FE and apprenticeship provision, it's as the Cabinet Secretary\u00a0outlined.", + "Suzy Davies AM : So, are there any formal risk assessments that are available for us to scrutinise, for example? For HE and FE\u00a0for that matter.", + "Kirsty Williams AM : Well, the Higher Education Funding Council for Wales have been doing some specific work; I can't comment on how wide they would want that to be shared. We have been doing some broad analysis, as I said, for the sector, looking at what we can do to mitigate the risk, bearing in mind that each institution is an autonomous institution, a principle that they guard really jealously, and rightly so. So, we have been, as Huw said, because the prospect of a 'no deal' has become, perhaps, more to the forefront, officers have been visiting each institution to try and make sure and to satisfy us, as people who fund part of their activity, that they have their own plans in place to deal with these scenarios. We continue to work alongside them to push the issues that we can help them with. So, for instance, we continue to work with officials in Westminster around Erasmus+ provision in a 'no deal' scenario, what a UK stand-alone project would look like, the impacts of a 'no deal' on Horizon 2020. So, we look at the broader picture and we are encouraging continually individual institutions to make sure that they themselves are looking at their specific needs within that.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Well, if there is something that's shareable, I'm sure we'd be very pleased to see it\u2014", + "Kirsty Williams AM : Anything that we've got\u2014", + "Suzy Davies AM : \u2014particularly with FE, actually, because, of course, we haven't got a\u00a0HEFCW\u00a0for FE; you're doing that regulation yourself. I'd expect to see that type of work evidenced somewhere from within Welsh Government, and we would be able to see that then.", + "Eluned Morgan AM : So, if I could just make some points on FE. We've been actively engaging with the FE sector. We've spoken to every one of the colleges about how they see things developing. I think it's quite a different response than what is going to be\u00a0happening in HE.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Yes, because the student thing isn't such an issue, is it?", + "Eluned Morgan AM : You've got to remember that the FE colleges are much more anchored within their\u00a0communities, they're much more localised, and so, for example, the number of EU students in these colleges is significantly lower. The number of staff in these colleges\u2014I think they've analysed that there are only about 71 people. So, we're keeping in touch with them and we're letting them know what we are being told in terms of the Home Office settled status and what we can do to protect those 71. But that's\u00a0a much bigger issue, I think, for higher education.", + "Suzy Davies AM : What are they telling you about European social fund\u00a0funding, though, because, as you say, they're locally anchored\u2014the impact on FE of ESF funding is probably more significant than the issues we're talking about with higher education. How are you finding this out? Is this through one-to-one conversations?", + "Eluned Morgan AM : We are engaging with them all, and, obviously, we're engaging with ColegauCymru, who've done their own analysis, and what we found, in particular, is that the real problems are probably in relation to ESF funding and apprenticeships. But what you've got to remember is that that link between apprenticeships and the local work community is absolutely crucial. So, if\u2014", + "Suzy Davies AM : Yes, that's why I asked.", + "Eluned Morgan AM : \u2014the economy nosedives, or if there's an issue that we see\u2014just the dislocation of companies in those areas as a result of Brexit\u2014then that will inevitably have an impact on the number of apprenticeships that will be on offer. So, it's those kinds of things, but at the moment I think it's worth pointing out that about \u00a315 million a year goes into the FE sector just in relation to apprenticeships.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Can I just come back finally on that, before handing over? In both your areas of responsibility, there's going to be an impact on Welsh Government in how it responds to that, as well. Can you tell me a little bit about the European transition team, which I think is about building resilience within the Welsh Government to deal with the impacts of Brexit? Is that a formal arrangement you have with officials? I don't really know much about this team, but it seems to meet fortnightly to get Welsh Government ready for Brexit, so could you just give us some clues on this?", + "Marie Knox : Yes, in terms of the European transition team, that's the central co-ordinating group that pulls together all the leads in each department who are pulling together the work on European transition. So, I attend that group in relation to higher education and further education, and, obviously, other representatives in terms of agriculture, transport, the economy, et cetera.", + "Suzy Davies AM : It's great that you're on that group, but what does it actually do? That's the bit I wasn't sure about.", + "Marie Knox : I guess it provides the governance structure for the Welsh Government as a whole in relation to European transition. So, individual departments do their own work, and the European transition team provides the governance structure, and, also, they lead on the discussions with the Department for Exiting the European Union, No.\u00a010, the Joint Ministerial Committee\u2014those kinds of ministerial arrangements.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Thank you. 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You should put the laptop uh right into the square .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : For i for the cameras , yes .", + "User Interface : For the cameras Alright .", + "Project Manager : Good morning , Sebastian .", + "Industrial Designer : Good morning , {vocalsound} Mister P_M_ .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : {gap} {disfmarker} I'm fine .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} How are you today ? How was your business trip to Boston ? {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Um well , actually I didn't go , didn't feel like it .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Geez .", + "Project Manager : So {disfmarker} Do you want to open it as read-only .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Um I guess I should close it here .", + "User Interface : You have the same message of uh Windows cannot um", + "Marketing : {gap}", + "User Interface : sen oh stand-by . Close the the window .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound} Okay .", + "Project Manager : Okay , the waiting is for our Marketing Expert , Ruud .", + "User Interface : So {disfmarker} That's right . Ruud .", + "Project Manager : Um project kick-off .", + "Industrial Designer : Is there a schedule for this meeting ?", + "Project Manager : Yes , there is actually . Um I will li list the agenda for today . For this meeting . Good morning , Ruud .", + "Marketing : Good morning . {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} Uh it's important um {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : I shall close the door .", + "Project Manager : yeah , great . It's important that the laptops are um exactly on the square , um for the cameras . Okay . Okay . Um we're here to develop uh a new product .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Um I'm sure you've had a mail from our account manager about it .", + "User Interface : Mm-hmm .", + "Project Manager : Um {vocalsound} and um this is the first meeting to to generate some uh uh some ideas about it . Um you are here in a specific role . Uh Ruud is here as the Marketing Expert , Roo is here as the User Interface Designer and Sebastian is here uh in the role of Industrial Designer . Is that correct ?", + "Industrial Designer : That's correct .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "User Interface : Mm-hmm .", + "Project Manager : Um {vocalsound} we're going to do um uh uh a little tool training uh for the tools we are going to use uh during uh the meetings we are going to have here . Um then I will tell you a little bit about my idea of the project plan , uh and we will have a discussion . Uh this meeting should take no more than twenty five minutes , so we should keep that in mind .", + "User Interface : Alright .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay . Um is there any room for a little presentation ? Uh maybe during the discussion uh section ?", + "Project Manager : There is ? Yeah , there is .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay .", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} No problem .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Um okay , this new product we are are g are going to develop , um it's a remote control , a television remote control . Um and first of all it should be original , it should be trendy and user-friendly . Those are kind of easy um uh uh goals , um and I'm sure we can find more goals for the for the product we are going to develop . {vocalsound} Um we will discuss uh later on more ideas about uh how the remote should look and how it sh it should function and all those kind of things .", + "User Interface : Okay .", + "Project Manager : The market , we should have a look at the market . Um {vocalsound} we are going to use a a pred a project method uh during uh this development , um which consists of three different design stages . Uh the functional design , the conceptual design and the detailed design , um all of these stages um um mean that we do some individual work , prepare , and then uh meet to discuss our uh uh the {gap} {disfmarker} the the progressions , yes .", + "User Interface : Progressions . {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Um the first stage , the functional design um we are going to search for the user requirements , and we will um make a specific {disfmarker} uh specification of that . Um {vocalsound} the second is the technical functional design , um what effect should the remote have ? Well in this case control t the the television I think .", + "User Interface : It's for the vision . Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Um and the last one is the working design . How exactly does it work in the technical sense . Um the other design stages , uh we will discuss that later . So we'll kop it {disfmarker} keep it with the functional design . {vocalsound} Okay , um before we think about remote control we will um work with some of the tools we have uh here . Um as you see now I can give a presentation . {vocalsound} Um it's also possible to use this one as well . You can uh uh display pr uh two presentations if you want to . Um {vocalsound} to um presentate , to show us uh a file you'll need to uh place it in your project documents folder , which is on your desktop , at least it should be . Um then we have this electronic white-board system . {vocalsound} Um yeah , I will show that now . Um you can draw on the board using this pen . There are little um uh", + "User Interface : Sensors .", + "Project Manager : sensors , so do not grab it here , but a lit more a little bit more to the uh to the end . Um well , it {disfmarker} it's on the um eraser now , so we click the pen button . Okay , so not too fast writing . Um {vocalsound} you can insert a new um slide or or white-board uh uh file um by either using the insert function or by clicking the next button or the blank button . It's quite the same . Um all our um whi um uh SMARTboard um notes should be kept in the same file . So do not m make a new file . Just use this one uh during the day . {vocalsound} Um you can use the eraser to make something go away .", + "User Interface : But we all use the same white-board file", + "Project Manager : Yes .", + "User Interface : So we can work together on it while we're {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : or should we only use it in the in the meetings ?", + "Project Manager : Yeah , in the meetings , only in the meetings .", + "User Interface : Yeah , okay .", + "Project Manager : It's really like like a regu regular whiteboard .", + "User Interface : Yeah , alright . Yep .", + "Project Manager : Um you can choose the format , um {disfmarker} sorry . Uh {disfmarker} Let me see . Um {disfmarker} Well {disfmarker} {vocalsound} I guess it's maybe because I'm not s uh pen selected . Yep . Current colour , you can choose another colour . And um for example black , and you c I can choose the line width . Um so now I d have a different line width and uh colour . Okay . Quite easy , if you uh do have any questions , just c ask me . Um {vocalsound} to um {disfmarker} oh well , I'm {disfmarker} I wrote down the documents uh should be in the project documents folder if you want to uh discuss it with us . Um as a little training {vocalsound} um I will ask Ruud first to draw uh uh your own animal on a new slide uh with uh a different colour and a different line width than the one uh now selected . {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : Okay . Um green .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : An animal . Okay . Um {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : Uh a wee rabbit .", + "User Interface : It's a bunny . {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : A rabbit . Okay , well great .", + "Industrial Designer : Alright .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Um Roo , could you do the same please ? But a different animal with a different colour and a different line width .", + "User Interface : But of course , Flores .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Blank .", + "Project Manager : Sebastian is thinking about the animal .", + "Industrial Designer : I'm just uh guessing what should be my favourite animal . {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "User Interface : Yeah , I'm think about it too . {vocalsound} Format {gap} . Well , it looked more than a bunny than a cat , but {vocalsound} it works ,", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} Well , I'll give it a try . {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound} Yeah .", + "Project Manager : It it should be a cat .", + "User Interface : right ?", + "Project Manager : Okay ?", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} Mm .", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} I'm guessing a horse .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : Very good . {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : With a very small {vocalsound} legs . {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} I was very good in drawing . {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : You should feed that uh that animal . {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} Well , I guess you uh get the idea . {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Yes , okay . {vocalsound} Beautiful .", + "Industrial Designer : Beautiful .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Okay , so um you can use this at any time during the presentation if you want to . Um any questions {disfmarker} well , just just let me know . Um okay , back to our project . Um {vocalsound} the remote control we are going to develop um will have a selling price of about twenty five Euros . Uh the profit we are looking for for this product is fifty million Euros , which is quite a number . {vocalsound} Um", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : we uh we will focus this internationally , so the product will be sold um , if there is market uh interest , uh in in more than one country . And um the production costs should not be more than uh twelve Euro fifty , so we should keep that in mind by uh w w during the development , {vocalsound} um because uh , well , those are important numbers . Um then the discussion , maybe the time for Sebastian to show his presentation ." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "train", + "file_id": 11, + "turns": [ + 169, + 188 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "decision , issues , HMRC", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Sian Gwenllian AM was pleased in knowing local authorities finally decided to move forward without the help of HMRC, after saying otherwise a few months ago. Julie Morgan AM mentioned that working with HMRC highlighted opportunities for local authorities to help people find easier their eligibility and help those in a difficult situation.", + "title": "Local Authorities Not Moving Forward with HMRC", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 0, + 1 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "decision , issues , HMRC", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Sian Gwenllian AM was concerned about the apparent change of mind from local authorities on working with HMRC. A few months ago, they mentioned they wanted to work with HMRC, but today they said otherwise. Julie Morgan AM said that after the last discussion with the committee, the work with HMRC highlighted which path they wanted to take. Local authorities decided to keep the work of checking eligibility because it would allow them to connect with families and help those in a difficult situation. Local authorities were now in charge of helping people fill out the forms and check their eligibility, making the process more efficient.", + "title": "Local Authorities Not Moving Forward with HMRC", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 0, + 1 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "detailed costings , specific grant", + "speaker": "Suzy Davies AM , Jo-Anne Daniels" + }, + "summary": "Suzy Davies AM wanted to know the costs of changing the temporary system arrangement to a permanent one. Jo-Anne Daniels explained their strategy of selecting 10 local authorities. This selection aimed to build economies of scale, and have more control through a specific grant. The grant would be used for administration processes only.", + "title": "Detailed Costs of Implementing the Arrangement with Local Authorities", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 3, + 10 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "detailed costings , specific grant", + "speaker": "Suzy Davies AM , Jo-Anne Daniels" + }, + "summary": "Suzy Davies AM wanted to know the costs of changing the system. Jo-Anne Daniels mentioned a price tag of \u00a32.5 million.", + "title": "Detailed Costs of Implementing the Arrangement with Local Authorities", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 3, + 10 + ] + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "Sian Gwenllian AM : Well, I congratulate you on persuading local government and WLGA to change their minds, because they actually told this committee that they favoured the HMRC option\u2014and this is only going back a few months\u2014because it will remove\u2014and this is quoting them\u2014 'it will remove the administrative burden of receiving applications and checking eligibility from local authorities'\u2014 blah, blah, blah, blah.\u00a0So, they've obviously changed their minds as well, which is, you know\u2014. I congratulate you on that, but it does present us as a committee with a little bit of a problem, really, because, if we're told one thing a few months ago and then we're told something completely different today, you know, evidence\u2014we have to go on evidence that we've heard, and the evidence has changed now.", + "Julie Morgan AM : I think, during the period since it was discussed on the committee, the work with the HMRC has helped highlight to us where we needed to go. So, I think we did learn a lot and it certainly has helped show to us where we think is the best place to go. I would like to pay tribute to the local authorities, because they've been great partners in this and they're very positive about moving forward keeping the work. And there's also a feeling that, because they are so much closer to the local public than HMRC is, they're able to build up links with families and help with some of these difficult issues. Because I'm sure many of you may have had individual cases\u2014I certainly have\u2014where there's been quite a lot of complexity about helping people fill in the forms and look at their eligibility. So, I say well done to the local authorities. And thanks to the HMRC, because we've had nothing but a very positive relationship with them.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : Suzy, you've got a supplementary.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Thank you. Ms Daniels, you referred to value for money. How much is it actually going to cost to change this system from being a temporary arrangement with local authorities to a permanent one? And how much more is it going to cost for the more flexible system that you have in mind? They're not going to do this for nothing. How much extra are you giving them, and will they use it for this? How are you ensuring it's used for this?", + "Jo-Anne Daniels : So, at the moment, local\u2014. So, two things. Just to start by saying the eligibility checking process is not undertaken by all 22 local authorities.", + "Suzy Davies AM : No, no, I realise that.\u00a0Yes, I got all that.", + "Jo-Anne Daniels : So, part of the reason for using 10 is to try to ensure that we build economies of scale and that we have a more efficient operation.\u00a0Those authorities that undertake that function are given a specific grant in order to do that. That grant is ring-fenced to that purpose.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Could you give us an idea of the price tag?", + "Jo-Anne Daniels : At the moment, it's about \u00a32.5 million.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Okay, just as a round figure\u2014that's fine.", + "Nicola Edwards : Just for the administration. They get separate funding for the childcare, obviously.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Okay, thank you.", + "Jo-Anne Daniels : So that, as I said, is a ring-fenced sum that they use to administer the offer. We are now starting the detailed work to define the new system requirements so that we will have a single application process across Wales, moving forward. As part of that work, we'll need to consider the detailed costings, but our initial estimate suggests that it would be less than the cost proposed by HMRC.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Okay, when those costings are worked up, perhaps we could have a note comparing the two figures.", + "Jo-Anne Daniels : Yes, we would be very happy to share more detail on that.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Thank you.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : Si\u00e2n.", + "Sian Gwenllian AM : If it became a universal offer, would those costs reduce? Would there be so much bureaucracy involved in checking eligibility and stuff if every child was open to the offer?", + "Jo-Anne Daniels : So, clearly, if every child is eligible, then a large part of the process falls away in terms of the need to verify income and so on. That doesn't mean that there's no administration. For example, with the foundation phase, which is universally available, there is an application process and there is an administrative function that sits alongside that. At this point in time, I couldn't give you any indication of\u2014", + "Sian Gwenllian AM : But it would be substantially less, wouldn't it, because they wouldn't have to do all these eligibility checks and all those things?" + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "train", + "file_id": 47, + "turns": [ + 440, + 568 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "channel", + "speaker": "Project Manager , Industrial Designer , User Interface" + }, + "summary": "Industrial Designer spoke of having a button and pressing it, this was the previous channel that came back. Project Manager thought it was cool and they could include that also. Previous channel button. 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Maybe . {vocalsound} So few buttons , channel , volume control and what el what function do you see in addition to that ?", + "User Interface : Well if it's going to be as simple as possible then just have the remote control , there is no other function that I can see", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : really .", + "Project Manager : Maybe switch T_V_ on and off {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} Uh", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : no you want to keep television on so that the advertising can {disfmarker} revenue can come back to us .", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} Yeah . 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If we do that .", + "Industrial Designer : Or a {disfmarker} or a ball , yeah , not a a wheel but a ball , and you say uh to {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : No , a wheel is better .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : I would say the wheel is better .", + "User Interface : Because of that {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : What is the expert of uh {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "User Interface : The channels change one by one .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "User Interface : So you have to the user has to like to should feel the the the discrete sense a bit .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , the {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "Industrial Designer : yeah .", + "Project Manager : Yeah . That's a good idea .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Well also we have to decide uh so it should be lightening in the dark I think because most people lost their remote control .", + "Industrial Designer : 'S quite {disfmarker} it's quite easy we do that w with back light on the {disfmarker} on the wheel .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Yeah . Even if i L_E_D_ uh or a if if it's the L_C_D_ feature uh", + "Industrial Designer : A blue {disfmarker} a blue L_E_D_ and we sell that um .", + "Project Manager : Yeah ,", + "User Interface : whatever , yeah .", + "Project Manager : and do we put an L_C_D_ display ?", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Because it was important for young customers if you remember .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} I think it's only put on if cou have multi function . If you do not multi function then there is no p point in having L_C_D_ .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Just increase the cost .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} The user does not have an advantage really .", + "Project Manager : So no L_C_D_ ?", + "Industrial Designer : Mm-hmm .", + "Marketing : Hmm .", + "Project Manager : And so no speech as well because it w it would delay too much the development process", + "User Interface : Well if it's going to delay yeah", + "Industrial Designer : Okay .", + "User Interface : but uh {vocalsound} it will be cool . It would . Because a user could say C_N_N_ for example and it would go C_N_N_ . Mm .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Project Manager : Yeah . That would be cool . But eight months is really long", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : and {disfmarker} Maybe we can just uh {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} Ten years {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}" + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "test", + "file_id": 27, + "turns": [ + 39, + 195 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "elderly , vulnerable people , Government support", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau spoke about the increase in the Canada Child Benefit, the Canada Emergency Response Benefit (CERB), the resources the federal government sent to help the homeless, and the support through the Ministry of Indian Services and the Crown Minister for Indian Relations, for urban indigenous people. Honorable Deb Schulte spoke about the government's announcement to provide a payment for the most vulnerable seniors, as well as the expansion of the New Horizons for Seniors Program and the creation of the GST credit. Honorable Carla Qualtrough clarified that the amounts granted in the CERB considered the income and expenses of the workers and were determined in collaboration with ESDC and the Department of Finance. Honorable Ahmed Hussen said that the wage subsidy would be extended to non-profit charities to serve the most vulnerable during the COVID-19 pandemic.", + "title": "Government Support for Vulnerable People During the COVID-19 Pandemic", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 1, + 10 + ], + [ + 89, + 91 + ], + [ + 150, + 156 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "elderly , vulnerable people , Government support", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau spoke about the increase in the Canada Child Benefit, the Canada Emergency Response Benefit (CERB), which was now accessible to more than seven million Canadians, and the resources the federal government sent to shelters across the country supporting the homeless. Right Hon. Justin Trudeau explained that they were also moving through the Minister of Indigenous Services and the Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations to increase support for urban indigenous people in the coming years. Honorable Deb Schulte spoke about the government's announcement to provide a payment of up to $500 to help the most vulnerable seniors, as well as expand the New Horizons for Seniors Program with $20 million and the creation of the GST credit. Honorable Carla Qualtrough clarified that the amounts granted in the CERB were determined in collaboration with ESDC and the Department of Finance, considering the income and expenses of the workers. Honorable Ahmed Hussen said they announced $350 million in support to cover and expand wage subsidy to nonprofit charities to serve the most vulnerable during the COVID-19 pandemic.", + "title": "Government Support for Vulnerable People During the COVID-19 Pandemic", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 1, + 10 + ], + [ + 89, + 91 + ], + [ + 150, + 156 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "gap , program , implementation", + "speaker": "Ms. Jenny Kwan" + }, + "summary": "Ms. Jenny Kwan said there were cases of single parents and their children relying on spousal and child support not receiving support due to the COVID-19 pandemic, even when they paid taxes on their spouse's income, but since they were not eligible for the CERB, because it was a very complicated program, they were left in a gap, without any kind of support.", + "title": "The CERB Program Gap", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 1, + 3 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "gap , program , implementation", + "speaker": "Ms. Jenny Kwan" + }, + "summary": "Ms. Jenny Kwan said that many single parents and their children who depended on spousal support and child maintenance have been left without support due to COVID-19 and instead of providing a universal direct payment for all, the government has decided to implement a complicated program, leaving many people behind. Ms. Jenny Kwan considered that the CERB couldn't replace spousal support and child maintenance, because there were people who couldn't apply to this new program.", + "title": "The CERB Program Gap", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 1, + 4 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "Canadian government , elderly , support", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Responding to a question from the Hon. Judy A. Sgro, Hon. Deb Schulte spoke about the additional actions the government was taking to ensure that vulnerable seniors got the support they needed to deal with the complications of the COVID-19 pandemic, and which included: announcing a one-time tax-free payment for the elderly; the announcement of the expansion of the New Horizons for Seniors Program; and the GST credit.", + "title": "Canadian Government Support for the Elderly During the COVID-19 Pandemic", + "relevant_turns": [ + 89, + 91 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "Canadian government , elderly , support", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Hon. Judy A. Sgro asked about the government's actions to ensure that vulnerable older people get the support they need, because they were spending extra money due to the pandemic. Hon. Deb Schulte spoke about additional steps the government was taking in response to the complications older people have faced due to the COVID-19 pandemic, including: announcing a one-time tax-free payment of up to $500 for the most vulnerable seniors; the announcement of $20 million to expand the New Horizons for Seniors program that would benefit seniors with initiatives and services such as grocery delivery and connectivity; as well as the GST credit.", + "title": "Canadian Government Support for the Elderly During the COVID-19 Pandemic", + "relevant_turns": [ + 89, + 91 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "homelessness crisis", + "speaker": "Right Hon . Justin Trudeau ( Prime Minister" + }, + "summary": "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau spoke of the resources sent to shelters across the country to support the homeless without increasing the danger of spreading COVID-19, and the commitment to continue to do so. Ms. Jenny Kwan said that the money sent by the federal government was insufficient, as was the Prime Minister's National Strategic Plan for Housing. Right Hon. Justin Trudeau argued that the Strategic Plan's goal was ambitious, and no other government has been able to achieve it, although he acknowledged that there was always more to do.", + "title": "Federal Government Support for the Homeless", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 5, + 8 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "homelessness crisis", + "speaker": "Right Hon . Justin Trudeau ( Prime Minister )" + }, + "summary": "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau said the federal government has sent significant resources to shelters across the country to enable them to create facilities and rent new spaces to house homeless people without increasing the danger of the spread of COVID-19, and would continue to do so. Although Ms. Jenny Kwan said that the money sent by the federal government is insufficient, as was the Prime Minister's National Strategic Plan for Housing, Right Hon. Justin Trudeau argued that reducing chronic homelessness by 50%, according to the Strategic Plan, was an ambitious goal that no other government has been able to achieve, although he acknowledged that there was always more to do.", + "title": "Federal Government Support for the Homeless", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 5, + 8 + ] + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "The Chair : We'll now go to Ms. Kwan.", + "Ms. Jenny Kwan (Vancouver East, NDP) : Thank you, Mr. Chair. Instead of providing a universal direct payment for all, the government has decided to implement a complicated program that leaves many people behind. A single parent with four school-age children lost her spousal and child support due to COVID-19. She pays taxes on her spousal income, but she is not eligible for CERB. The Minister of Employment said that she is looking into this gap. It has been weeks, and still no action. Will the Prime Minister step in and fix this gap so that the single parents and their children can get the support they need during this pandemic?", + "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau : I'm happy, Mr. Chair, to correct the honourable member by pointing out that we actually moved in the most rapid and simplest possible way in providing income replacement to millions upon millions of Canadians who needed it through the Canada emergency response benefit. However, as the member points out, when one moves quickly and efficiently, there will be gaps, and that's why we've been working diligently to try to fill those gaps. We want to make sure that Canadians who need help, get it.", + "Ms. Jenny Kwan : While the Minister of Employment has been aware of this for three weeks and says she is looking into it, there's still been no action. The truth of the matter is that single parents and their children who depend on spousal support and child maintenance are not getting support. Will the Prime Minister fix this gap?", + "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau : We recognize the particular challenge faced by families, single parents and families with young children, which is why we increased the amount of the Canada child benefit to be able to support people in this particular moment. On top of that, we have looked to fill further gaps that have existed with the Canada emergency response benefit. Well over seven million Canadians have access to CERB, and we will continue to work with them", + "Ms. Jenny Kwan : That does not replace spousal support and child maintenance, Prime Minister. Across the country there is no national standard to address the homelessness crisis amidst this pandemic, leaving communities at heightened risk from COVID-19. Canadians who are homeless or living in substandard housing have no access to bathroom facilities for basic hygiene. Those living in crowded SROs and shelters cannot practise social distancing. The problem is particularly acute in my riding in the Downtown Eastside. While the B.C. government has implemented an initiative to house some of the homeless population in empty hotels in the short term, support from the federal government is needed to secure permanent solutions post-COVID-19. Will the Prime Minister commit to providing matching funds and take the right to adequate housing seriously?", + "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau : I know that the honourable member wouldn't want to inadvertently mislead the House. The fact is, the federal government almost immediately sent significant resources, hundreds of millions of dollars, to shelters across the country to enable them to create facilities, including renting new spaces, to be able to house homeless people without increasing the danger of the spread of COVID-19. I recognize there's always more to do, but as we demonstrated with our national housing strategy, we are serious about fighting homelessness and supporting vulnerable Canadians, and we will continue to do that.", + "Ms. Jenny Kwan : The Prime Minister must know that the money the federal government sent is deficient. Many people still remain homeless, and they are at risk. Cutting chronic homelessness by 50% over the next decade is not good enough, and that is this Prime Minister's national housing strategy. Will the government stop just making empty promises and ensure that every Canadian has the right to housing? Will he top up the support for provinces to at least match their funds?", + "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau : Mr. Chair, cutting chronic homelessness by 50% is an ambitious goal that no one else has ever been able to do as a government, and we are well on track for it. I would suggest that the member opposite not dismiss that as an empty promise, because we have demonstrated actions on it. I recognize there is more to do. There is always more to do. We will be there and continue to be there for vulnerable people, including homeless Canadians.", + "Ms. Jenny Kwan : I would remind the Prime Minister that it was the federal Liberals who eliminated the national affordable housing program in 1993, so we have this homeless crisis today as a result of the Liberals. We in Vancouver East have the third-largest urban indigenous population in the country, yet we got less than 2% of the pandemic urban indigenous housing funding. They're overrepresented among the homeless population. Why?", + "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau : Mr. Chair, we recognize there is more to do in supporting urban indigenous people. We have moved forward, both through the Minister of Indigenous Services and the Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations, to address the challenges facing urban aboriginal populations. We will continue to work with them, recognizing that they are among the most vulnerable people in Canada who deserve the right support from all orders of government, and we will be there to support them increasingly in the coming years.", + "The Chair : We'll now go on to Ms. Sgro.", + "Hon. Judy A. Sgro (Humber RiverBlack Creek, Lib.) : Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the opportunity. I will be sharing my time with the member for KingsHants. Canadian seniors are worried about COVID-19. In my own riding of Humber RiverBlack Creek, 30% of the population are 65 or older. We know they are one of the highest risk populations. During this time, their costs have gone up. They have had to spend extra on medication and grocery delivery, as many cannot leave their homes. I have also heard of many seniors who are facing extra dispensing fees. These costs all add up, and many seniors were already carefully budgeting before the pandemic. It is so important that our government be there to support them. Can the minister please tell us what our government is doing to ensure that vulnerable seniors get the support they need during this very difficult time?", + "The Chair : The honourable minister.", + "Hon. Deb Schulte : My colleague is right. Seniors have faced increased costs due to the COVID-19 pandemic, and our government today has responded to that with additional action. We announced a one-time, tax-free payment of $300 for seniors eligible for OAS and an additional $200 for seniors eligible for GIS. This means there will be up to $500 for the most vulnerable seniors to help them with their financial security to get through this challenging time. Beyond this, we announced $20 million to expand the new horizons for seniors program to kick-start initiatives and services that will help seniorsfor example, to get grocery deliveries right to their door and to stay connected. We've worked tirelessly on this as well as on other recent measures like the GST credit to help the most vulnerable seniors. Thank you to my colleague for her advocacy.", + "The Acting Chair (Mr. Bruce Stanton (Simcoe North, CPC)) : You have 30 seconds left, Ms. Sgro. Go ahead with a short question and a response.", + "Hon. Judy A. Sgro : Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. I want to applaud the minister for that work. I know she's been working extremely hard to make sure that we get some additional announcements over and above all of the ones we have already made, so congratulations. Keep up the work. You know there is lots more we want to do.", + "The Acting Chair (Mr. Bruce Stanton) : Please give a short response. Go ahead.", + "Hon. Deb Schulte : Thank you very much to my honourable colleague for her advocacy. Thanks for everyone's advocacy. Seniors across the country have been communicating with us and letting us know their needs, and we have been responding.", + "The Acting Chair (Mr. Bruce Stanton) : Continuing with questions, we'll go to the honourable member for SaskatoonUniversity, Mr. Tochor.", + "Mr. Corey Tochor (SaskatoonUniversity, CPC) : Good afternoon, everybody. With respect to entering Canada, does the government consider spousal reunification as essential travel, yes or no?", + "The Acting Chair (Mr. Bruce Stanton) : The honourable minister.", + "Hon. Bill Blair : The CBSA has exercised the appropriate discretion in determining when a non-Canadian citizen, who has no status in Canada, attempts to enter the country for any consideration considered non-essential. They are turned back because we have restrictions in place for non-essential travel.", + "Mr. Corey Tochor : Respectfully to the minister, you're letting down Canadians. People are being stranded, and you need to do better as a government. Changing gears a little, all Canadians would agree, or can agree, that the Prime Minister requires suitable accommodation. Why did the government simply not tell Canadians that the Harrington cottage needed to be rebuilt and massively expanded?", + "The Acting Chair (Mr. Bruce Stanton) : I would ask the honourable members to direct their questions through the chair. The honourable minister.", + "Hon. Anita Anand : The NCC is an independent Crown corporation. It recognizes the importance of the official residences it has jurisdiction over. The work at Harrington Lake is part of a broader program to preserve and maintain and restore all official residences under NCC management, and we will support the NCC in its important work.", + "Mr. Corey Tochor : Was there something in particular that this government did not want Canadians to know about the cottage, or is secrecy all this government knows how to do?", + "Hon. Anita Anand : Mr. Chair, this information was and has been public since 2018. There is no effort to hide any information from the public in this regard.", + "Mr. Corey Tochor : Respectfully, Canadians feel misled on this, and we're not clear on what the expenses were, how large an expansion it was", + "The Acting Chair (Mr. Bruce Stanton) : Go ahead, the honourable government House leader.", + "Hon. Pablo Rodriguez : On a point of order, Mr. Chair, I believe this has absolutely nothing to do with the pandemic, so the questions are out of order, in my opinion. Thank you.", + "The Acting Chair (Mr. Bruce Stanton) : I thank the honourable government House leader for his comment. Certainly the scope of the special committee on the COVID-19 pandemic does expect and anticipate that the subject matter will be related to the matter at hand, so I would ask honourable members to continue to keep within those bounds. Of course, members will also know that we're unable to gauge that until members have spoken, so I would ask members to keep on subject. Let's go back to Mr. Tochor to finish his question, and we have about two minutes remaining in this spot.", + "Mr. Corey Tochor : Yes, thank you, Chair. The point I was making was about transparency or lack of transparency that is hurting our efforts with COVID-19. Changing gears onto CERB, who came up with the number for CERB? Why is it $2,000? A senior gets $1,200, people with disabilities get $1,600, and now we've added another ad hoc program on top of those. I'd like to know a little more about how and who came up with those unique numbers.", + "The Acting Chair (Mr. Bruce Stanton) : The honourable minister.", + "Hon. Carla Qualtrough : Working collaboratively between ESDC and the Department of Finance, we determined that that would be an appropriate amount, based on what workers were earning and what we anticipated they would need to live on, and what we anticipated they would be losing by way of employment income.", + "The Acting Chair (Mr. Bruce Stanton) : Your last question, Mr. Tochor.", + "Mr. Corey Tochor : I have a really quick question, which I've heard in my office, on charities and non-profits that do not have their own payroll number and are ineligible for the wage subsidy. Does the Prime Minister have a program fix coming so that charities and non-profits can receive the wage subsidy?", + "The Acting Chair (Mr. Bruce Stanton) : The honourable minister.", + "Hon. Ahmed Hussen : Mr. Chair, we understand the important role that charities and non-profits are playing to help vulnerable Canadians at this difficult time. We have announced supports in the amount of $350 million to ensure that not only do they continue that great work, but also expand it to serve the most vulnerable to get through the COVID-19 pandemic." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "test", + "file_id": 27, + "turns": [ + 11, + 64 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "petitions fraudulence , tax evasion , violence handling , supervisory", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Mr. Dean Albas expressed his concern about fraud in applications for government benefits and requests that this be investigated and appropriate measures be taken. Right Hon. Justin Trudeau said that priority was given to getting support to Canadians as quickly as possible, but there was a commitment to review cases of fraud and reverse support in those cases. Mr. Gabriel Ste-Marie called for strictness with companies so that there were no tax havens, and they paid their taxes if they wantd to benefit from the support of the Canadian government. Right Hon. Justin Trudeau said that although the priority was to deliver the aid to the workers as soon as possible, the payment of taxes by the companies was requested as a requirement and that they were currently evaluating case by case to ensure that there was no tax evasion and avoidance.", + "title": "Legality in Requests for Government Support", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 0, + 16 + ], + [ + 18, + 23 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "petitions fraudulence , tax evasion , violence handling , supervisory", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Mr. Dean Albas wanted to clarify whether obvious signs of fraud in applications for government benefits were being ignored and requested a commitment to investigate cases where fraud had occurred, to enforce the rule of law. Right Hon. Justin Trudeau said the priority was for Canadians to get the support they needed in the pandemic as quickly as possible, knowing in advance that there would then be a commitment to review cases of fraud and reverse support in those cases. Mr. Gabriel Ste-Marie asked that they be stricter with banks and large multinationals, because some registered their activities in a tax haven so as not to pay their taxes in Canada and also benefit from government support. Right Hon. Justin Trudeau said that the priority was to help workers as soon as possible and although from the beginning the payment of taxes by companies was requested as a requirement to access financing, now they were evaluating each one, to ensure that Be transparent about your finances before giving them the loan, as the government did not tolerate tax evasion and tax avoidance.", + "title": "Legality in Requests for Government Support", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 0, + 16 + ], + [ + 18, + 23 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "prime minister , profiteers support", + "speaker": "Mr. Gabriel Ste-Marie" + }, + "summary": "Mr. Gabriel Ste-Marie said that the Prime Minister was supporting speculators, because companies that legally took advantage of tax havens to avoid paying their taxes were having access to the large employer emergency financing facility, despite that the Prime Minister said there was no tolerance for tax evasion.", + "title": "Profiteers' Access to Government Benefits", + "relevant_turns": [ + 18, + 20, + 22 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "prime minister , profiteers support", + "speaker": "Mr. Gabriel Ste-Marie" + }, + "summary": "Mr. Gabriel Ste-Marie said that speculators were being supported, because companies that legally took advantage of tax havens to avoid paying their taxes were having access to the large employer emergency financing facility, despite the fact that the Prime Minister said that there was no tolerance for tax evasion, and it was announced that companies would be obliged not to resort to tax evasion or avoidance through tax havens in order to access loans, but the reality was that there were no conditions to be strict with them.", + "title": "Profiteers' Access to Government Benefits", + "relevant_turns": [ + 18, + 20, + 22 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "Iver Johnson , banning , support", + "speaker": "Hon . Bill Blair" + }, + "summary": "The Honorable Bill Blair said that at the request of the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police, legislation was enacted to ban military assault rifles, except for military and police purposes, clarifying that it did not refer to weapons that were not designed for hunting or for sporting purposes, but to weapons used by soldiers in combat.", + "title": "Ban on Military Assault Rifles", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 49, + 53 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "Hon . Bill Blair , Iver Johnson , banning", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "The Honorable Bill Blair said that while opposition members said otherwise, the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police stated that military assault rifles were produced to kill large numbers of people, so they called on the government to enact legislation to ban them, except for military and law enforcement purposes. Therefore, weapons that were not designed for hunting or sporting purposes, but for use by soldiers in combat to kill other soldiers, should now only be reserved for use by Canada's armed forces and law enforcement.", + "title": "Ban on Military Assault Rifles", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 49, + 53 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "mail", + "speaker": "Hon . Ahmed Hussen" + }, + "summary": "Hon. Candice Bergen asked if there was a general problem with Service Canada, as there were problems with unopened mail and delays in mail service. Hon. Ahmed Hussen said that even though they have seen a significant increase in shipping volumes and have had to close some centers due to the COVID-19 pandemic, they were doing everything they could to deliver for Canadians. Hon. Ahmed Hussen said that he was not aware of unopened mail being a widespread issue and that she was committed to investigating this particular case.", + "title": "Problems with Mail in Service Canada", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 40, + 44 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "mail", + "speaker": "Hon . Ahmed Hussen" + }, + "summary": "Hon. Candice Bergen mentioned that there were problems with unopened mail and delays in the mail service at Service Canada. Hon. Ahmed Hussen said they have had unprecedented volumes, and they have had to close some centers due to the COVID-19 pandemic, but he was not aware of unopened mail being a widespread issue, so he was committed to investigating this particular case.", + "title": "Problems with Mail in Service Canada", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 40, + 44 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "high user fees", + "speaker": "Mr. Gabriel Ste-Marie" + }, + "summary": "Mr. Gabriel Ste-Marie invited the Prime Minister to follow the example of Europe and Australia that limited interchange fees to 0.3%, since the 2.5% to 3% charge per transaction currently handled by credit card companies, such as Visa and Mastercard, were lowering the profit margins of merchants, which were being affected especially now, with the increase in the use of credit cards due to the pandemic.", + "title": "Credit Card Interchange Fees", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 24, + 26 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "high user fees", + "speaker": "Mr. Gabriel Ste-Marie" + }, + "summary": "Mr. Gabriel Ste-Marie invited the Prime Minister to limit interchange fees to 0.3% for credit card companies, as the 2.5-3% charge undermined the merchant's profit margin and enriched at the expense of consumers.", + "title": "Credit Card Interchange Fees", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 24, + 26 + ] + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "The Chair : We'll now proceed to questioning ministers. The first question will go to Mr. Albas.", + "Mr. Dan Albas (Central OkanaganSimilkameenNicola, CPC) : Thank you, Mr. Chair. Today we've learned that federal workers have been told to ignore obvious signs of fraud when it comes to applying for government benefits. Can the Prime Minister confirm that 200,000 applications have been flagged as potentially fraudulent?", + "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau (Prime Minister) : Thank you, Mr. Chair. Our priority from the beginning has been to make sure that Canadians get the support they need. We moved very quickly to get the Canada emergency response benefit out, to get the wage subsidy out and to help Canadians in this unprecedented situation. We recognize there will be challenges, and we are going to work through those challenges. Our priority every step of the way was to make sure we helped as many Canadians as possible.", + "Mr. Dan Albas : Mr. Chair, can the Prime Minister confirm that the instruction has been given to federal employees to ignore these 200,000 applications being flagged as potentially fraudulent? This is important.", + "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau : Our focus has been on helping as many people as we possible can. Our decision from the very beginning was to get the help out to people and figure out, with retroactive action if necessary, where and when there may have been fraudulent use. Our priority was getting that help out.", + "Mr. Dan Albas : Mr. Chair, this came from a memo issued by a deputy minister. Did the minister's office or the Prime Minister sign off on this memo?", + "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau : Again, in this unprecedented situation, our focus has been on helping as many people as possible, as quickly as possible. Other parties might have made a different choice had they been in government, but our focus was getting help to people when they needed it as quickly as possible and cleaning it up afterwards.", + "Mr. Dan Albas : Mr. Chair, I asked a very simple question. Did the Prime Minister or his minister sign off on this memo that was issued by the deputy minister, yes or no?", + "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau : Mr. Chair, we have been focused entirely on getting help to Canadians when they need it, and that has meant that yes, there will be things we will need to clean up after the fact and work to fix, but getting that help into Canadians' pockets during this pandemic was our priority.", + "Mr. Dan Albas : I'm asking the Prime Minister to show some accountability. Did he or his office sign off on this memo?", + "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau : Mr. Chair, my office and I have been absolutely focused on getting the necessary help to Canadians. Perhaps, as Mr. Albas points out, other parties would have been slower to get the money out. We were flowing money to people who needed it.", + "Mr. Dan Albas : Mr. Chair, the question was quite simple. Obviously the Prime Minister doesn't seem comfortable with the answer. Will he at least then commit to investigating every individual case of fraud, or will he write them off, as the story said?", + "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau : Mr. Chair, in this unprecedented situation Canadians have lost their jobs; they've lost their paycheques; they don't know how they're going to be able to support their loved ones and pay for their groceries. We made a decision as a country that we would be there for them and that has been and will continue to be our priority.", + "Mr. Dan Albas : Mr. Chair, the Prime Minister can leave the cottage talk for the cottage. We're asking a very simple question here. Will he commit as a government to enforce the rule of law and to enforce the attestation that says that if someone commits fraud, the fraud will be pursued?", + "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau : My commitment as Prime Minister and as a government is to support and protect Canadians. That is what we are doing by giving them the support they need through this unprecedented situation. Perhaps other parties don't think it's important to support Canadians. We will keep focused on supporting Canadians.", + "Mr. Dan Albas : That's not what I'm asking here, Mr. Chair. The Conservatives supported the legislation that allowed those supports to go through. What we are asking about is fraud. All along we've been told fraud would be detected through audits after the fact, and we expect that to happen. Can the Prime Minister at least confirm that this will happen?", + "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau : When we made the determination that we needed to move quickly to help Canadians, we knew there would be a need to clean up after the fact, to go after fraudulent cases. We will do that. Our priority now and in the coming months is to ensure Canadians get the support they need, and our economy comes roaring back. That's what we're focused on.", + "The Chair : We'll now continue with Mr.Ste-Marie.", + "Mr. Gabriel Ste-Marie (Joliette, BQ) : Mr.Chair, yesterday, the Prime Minister announced the large employer emergency financing facility. That's good. What's even better is that he announced that the loans would be tied to conditions. One of those conditions forces companies not to resort to tax evasion or tax avoidance through tax havens. Excellent! Unfortunately, I quickly became disillusioned because it is more about abusive tax evasion and avoidance. Basically, we're talking about fraudsters. There are no conditions that would allow us to tighten the screws on profiteers. Companies that legally take advantage of tax havens to avoid paying their taxes will have access to the large employer emergency financing facility. Why does the Prime Minister continue to support the profiteers?", + "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau : Mr.Chair, we will always be there to counter tax evasion and tax avoidance. It's a priority of our government. There is no tolerance for tax evasion and tax avoidance. In the current situation, our priority is to help workers across the country who could lose their jobs or who have lost their jobs. That's why we are introducing measures that support workers, who will continue to be our priority.", + "Mr. Gabriel Ste-Marie : Mr.Chair, I'm delighted to hear the Prime Minister say that there's no tolerance for tax avoidance. The problem is that his remarks don't reflect reality. Tax avoidance is the legal use of tax havens. The five big Bay Street banks benefit from this, as do the big multinationals. It's time to tighten the screws on these companies. They have to pay their share. Will the Prime Minister and his government outlaw what is immoral?", + "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau : Mr.Chair, when we announced the large employer emergency funding facility, we recognized that those who wanted to receive tax dollars had to have paid their fair share of taxes. That's why we're putting in place measures to carefully assess the tax structures of these businesses before we loan money to them.", + "Mr. Gabriel Ste-Marie : Mr.Chair, sometimes a bank will relocate its most profitable activities carried out in Canada and register them in a subsidiary in the Bahamas, Barbados or another tax haven. Does the Prime Minister consider this bank to be paying its fair share of taxes in Canada?", + "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau : Mr.Chair, we will assess applications for the large employer emergency funding facility on a case-by-case basis. We don't expect the big banks to need these funds. Before we provide any money, we're going to make sure that whoever wants to access these funds is transparent about how the money is being managed, including internationally.", + "Mr. Gabriel Ste-Marie : Mr.Chair, I'll change the subject now. Consumers are paying more and more with their credit cards, which allows contactless payments in shops, not to mention online shopping. This benefits Visa and Mastercard, which charge appallingly high user fees, known as interchange fees. These are almost 10times higher than in Europe and Australia, and it costs our merchants a fortune. Can the Prime Minister follow the example of Europe and Australia by capping interchange fees at0.3%?", + "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau : Mr.Chair, we are always looking for ways to reduce costs for consumers. We have worked with the big banks and the financial industry to ensure that people who need it have access to the help they need. We're reassessing how we can lower costs for consumers. Right now, we're sending money to consumers across the country who need it to get through this crisis. That's what we'll continue to focus on.", + "Mr. Gabriel Ste-Marie : Mr.Chair, the question doesn't concern consumers, but merchants. A credit card company, such as Visa and Mastercard, that charges a fee of 2.5%to3% per transaction undermines the merchant's profit margin and gets richer at the expense of consumers. I invite the Prime Minister to follow the example of Europe and Australia by capping these fees at0.3%.", + "Right Hon. Justin Trudeau : Mr.Chair, we continue to work with financial institutions and the big banks to help consumers during this exceptional and difficult situation. Of course, there are some things we can look at over the longer term as well.", + "The Chair : Ms. Bergen.", + "Hon. Candice Bergen (PortageLisgar, CPC) : Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I'm hearing in my riding of PortageLisgar that individuals who are dealing with Service Canada through the mail are experiencing delays. It seems that the mail that's going to Service Canada has not been opened. In fact, one of my constituents sent documents, including a doctor's note, two months ago on March 12 and is now being told that she must resend them because they've never been opened. Can the government tell us whether this is a widespread problem, and how are they dealing with unopened mail at Service Canada?", + "The Chair : The honourable minister.", + "Hon. Ahmed Hussen (Minister of Families, Children and Social Development) : Mr. Chair, I want to assure the honourable member that we are doing everything that we can in Service Canada to meet the expectations of Canadians. In the context of the COVID-19 pandemic, we have had unprecedented volumes, but we have redeployed thousands of staff to front-line services by phone and by other means. We had to close a number of the centres because of COVID-19 concerns and the safety and well-being of Canadians.", + "Hon. Candice Bergen : Is the minister aware whether this is a widespread problem? Is this happening rarely, or frequently? I'm hearing about it. I know, from many MPs, we are at the front lines of dealing with and helping constituents who are not only wanting to get support but also are trying to get programs unrelated to COVID-19. Is unopened mail a widespread problem at Service Canada?", + "Hon. Ahmed Hussen : Mr. Chair, I'm happy to look into the particular case that the honourable member brings up. I am not aware of unopened mail being a widespread issue. I'm happy to work with the honourable member to see what happened in this individual case.", + "Hon. Candice Bergen : Thanks very much. Mr. Chair, the Iver Johnson single-shot rifle is a standard farm gun used by many farmers in my riding, in fact, passed down from generation to generation in some cases. Why are the Liberals making this gun illegal? What's the purpose of banning this particular farm rifle?", + "The Chair : The honourable minister.", + "Hon. Bill Blair (Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness) : Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. I just wish to advise the member that we worked very closely with the Canadian firearms program, with law enforcement and with their firearms verification to identify the makes, models and variants of nine rifles, all of which had in their earliest provenance a design for military use, for soldiers to use in combat. Those are the weapons that have been", + "The Chair : We'll now go back to Ms. Bergen.", + "Hon. Candice Bergen : I would challenge the minister on that. I do not believe that he has been consulting with front-line officers. We're hearing from front-line officers that they are concerned about gangs, drug dealers and illegal weapons being smuggled across the border. They are not concerned with these types of farm rifles that are being used by our farmers and, in some cases, hunters. These are specifically used for hunting. So, Mr. Chair, we'd like to see the evidence on why the Liberals are once again targeting law-abiding Canadians, ignoring gangsters and drug dealers. Why are they banning the Iver Johnson?", + "Hon. Bill Blair : It's a great opportunity, I think, when the member opposite says what the police are saying. Let's hear what the police are saying. The Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police declared that military assault rifles were produced for the sole purpose of killing people in large numbers and urged the government to enact legislation to ban all military assault rifles, except for law enforcement and military purposes. The Ontario police leaders said that they support a prohibition on all military-designed rifles. They said, In our view, these weapons have no place in our communities and should be reserved for use by Canada's military and law enforcement.", + "The Chair : Ms. Bergen, we have about 50 seconds left.", + "Hon. Candice Bergen : Mr. Chair, we've seen this before, where the Liberals introduced a long-gun registry that cost billions of dollars and did absolutely nothing to stop violent crimes. This is a repeat of what the Liberals have done before. Is the minister saying that the Iver Johnson that farmers use is an assault rifle?", + "Hon. Bill Blair : Actually, what I'm saying, and what our regulations say very clearly, is that weapons that were designed not for hunting and not for sport purposes but for soldiers to use in combat to kill other soldiers have no place in Canadian society. I would also advise the member that any Canadian killed by gun violence is one too many. We have far too many tragedies where these types of weapons have been used to kill Canadians." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "test", + "file_id": 26, + "turns": [ + 219, + 370 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "primary colours , flashy kinda colours , front , materials", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer , Project Manager , User Interface" + }, + "summary": "Industrial Designer expressed his tactic to reach the young public and suggested to incorporate soft materials with primary colours into the component design of the remote control. User Interface was against the idea of using a combination of yellow with black, proposed by the Project Manager. It was considered cool to use flashy colours' fronts.", + "title": "Colours' Preferences", + "relevant_turns": [ + 0, + [ + 15, + 30 + ], + 47 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "primary colours , flashy kinda colours , front , materials", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer , Project Manager , User Interface" + }, + "summary": "Industrial Designer stated that soft materials with primary colours, flashy kinda colours should be used to reach a young public. Colours chosen by the Industrial Designer were such as green, blue and red. Project Manager agreed and proposed black and yellow as an option for the remote, what would attract the young public. User Interface disliked the combination, but it was a matter of taste. Colours, such as green, blue or even red would be associated with the transparent fronts to make it even more flashy kinda colours.", + "title": "Colours' Preferences", + "relevant_turns": [ + 0, + [ + 15, + 30 + ], + 47 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "square , shapes , sports and gaming style", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer , User Interface" + }, + "summary": "Industrial Designer expressed the device's shape should be round and nothing square-like or with square corners. Sports and gaming style could be an inspiration. User Interface Designer agreed, providing the example of the iPod and its popularity.", + "title": "Device's Shape will be Square Angle-Free", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 0, + 10 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "square , shapes , sports and gaming style", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer , User Interface" + }, + "summary": "The remote's shapes would be similar to gaming devices. It would be curved, with round corners and not looking like an old box.", + "title": "Device's Shape will be Square Angle-Free", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 0, + 10 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "transparent , front , back light", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer , User Interface" + }, + "summary": "Industrial Designer said the front case would be transparent mixed with some colours, for the green back light to work properly. User Interface said the front's transparency was replaceable. Industrial Designer agreed with the idea.", + "title": "The Transparent Front Case and Back Light Option", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 44, + 54 + ], + [ + 103, + 108 + ], + [ + 117, + 122 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "transparent , front , back light", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer , User Interface" + }, + "summary": "Industrial Designer asked if the front could be transparent, stating the case had to be transparent for the back light to work properly. The mix of colours with transparency was opted for, and the final result would be half blue, half transparent with a green back light. User Interface noted that front's transparency would be optional.", + "title": "Transparent Front Case and Back Light Option", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 44, + 54 + ], + [ + 103, + 108 + ], + [ + 117, + 122 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "buttons , numbers", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer , User Interface , Marketing" + }, + "summary": "Normal, ordinary buttons made of rubber were an option according to the Industrial Designer. User Interface opposed proposing hard plastic buttons because the rubber looked odd. Marketing noted that buttons on modern remote controls were a part of style. 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If you aim at a young public , you should use materials that are soft with primary colours like green , blue , red . So flashy kinda colours . Uh shapes should be curved , so round shapes . Not {disfmarker} Nothing square-like .", + "Project Manager : Okay , so {disfmarker} Hmm , okay . {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Yeah well uh iPod is trendy . And it is well curved {gap} square .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} Yeah .", + "Marketing : Square . Like .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , but mm is uh has round corners I think .", + "User Interface : Okay . So not {disfmarker} {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : So we shouldn't have too square corners and that kind of thing .", + "User Interface : Yeah okay . Not uh the old uh box look .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah . And um sports and gaming device style characteristics . I don't know exactly what that means , but it should be , well yeah , popular kind of", + "Project Manager : Yeah , we have to put our Real Reaction logo as well on the on the {vocalsound} remote control .", + "Industrial Designer : looking , I think .", + "Marketing : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay .", + "Project Manager : So the colours also .", + "User Interface : Mm {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Yeah , it's {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : So we have ha to ma make it in black , black , yellow .", + "User Interface : Black yellow control . {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Maybe the sides in yellow and the the the top in black .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , mm n Not that weird , because we definitely want to make it kind of flashy , to attract a young public .", + "User Interface : Yeah , but uh {vocalsound} I don't think the the colours black and yellow go well together . 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But with all with logo on it .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "Industrial Designer : Well this is a remote control , a very old one . Um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Then the components . The case has just a {disfmarker} Here's black .", + "Project Manager : Yeah , we make it som Maybe we have to make it from soft material . Uh I'm not sure .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , I dunno .", + "User Interface : {gap} Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Maybe . But anyways uh it should be transparent . We decided that , huh ?", + "User Interface : Well one of the options .", + "Industrial Designer : S", + "User Interface : You can {disfmarker} Just like a mobile phone , you can make um different fronts on it .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay .", + "User Interface : So you can just replace them I think . That was the idea ,", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , we could do that .", + "User Interface : or just uh release one .", + "Project Manager : Yeah . 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Soft .", + "User Interface : Yeah ,", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : I uh I dunno .", + "Project Manager : It it could be like a Nokia , like {gap} plastic .", + "User Interface : A more {disfmarker} Yeah , just uh {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound} Uh uh {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : That's better prob", + "Industrial Designer : With the hard hard buttons .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : I think uh rubber really has an odd look .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay .", + "Marketing : Yeah . The the the new uh new modern uh remote controls , uh the buttons are part of the {vocalsound} uh the style , I think is part of the remote control itself .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Marketing : It it's one uh a one uh out of one shape . Uh it's n doesn't {disfmarker} Is {vocalsound} uh a button uh um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} How do you say it ?", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , it's it's all on one level .", + "Marketing : It it didn't it i it don't come out of the {vocalsound} on the background .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , on one level .", + "Marketing : It is in uh the c a remote control uh {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , I know what you mean . So we have to keep it on the one level . Like th the top it's {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Yeah ,", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "User Interface : like mobile phones . Like uh the iPod .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Uh just {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , okay .", + "Project Manager : Yeah , that's cool .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay , it's chos So that should be hard plastic . 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But {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : No , but I think there are multiple colour LEDs . So {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Is it {disfmarker} Okay .", + "Marketing : Yeah ,", + "Industrial Designer : I I know {disfmarker} I dunno . Is {vocalsound} {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : but can you change it if you already bought the the remote control ?", + "User Interface : Yeah , it can .", + "Project Manager : Yeah , okay .", + "User Interface : 'Cause this a mo mib uh mobile phone as well .", + "Marketing : You {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Maybe it's it's more impor more expensive .", + "Project Manager : Maybe put some different ones in it . Doesn't matter . It's just {disfmarker} No , just some LED .", + "User Interface : I have the mo mi I have a blinking light on my phone .", + "Industrial Designer : I think it's {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : And I can change the colour of it .", + "Project Manager : Okay , cool . Just make it some different colours . 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I mean what do you want , do you want {gap} , but {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Yeah , but we like some some curves or {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Yeah , may maybe something like this . But though smooth inside . So you have the transmitter here for example .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Let's see that you {disfmarker} what would be handy . I think that the {vocalsound} the buttons should be {disfmarker} the channel buttons should be {vocalsound} uh on their own .", + "Marketing : Uh . And a light uh {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Let's see one , two {disfmarker} God damn it .", + "User Interface : Oh , we get the general ideas , yes .", + "Project Manager : Yeah , okay . {vocalsound} Another one here . Let's see what {disfmarker} I think this should {disfmarker} these are always on top of the of the control , so they should be here .", + "Industrial Designer : Hmm .", + "User Interface : Yeah , and since you're holding it like this , I suggest you put the channel up channel down and volume {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Think it's like this . {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : Volume .", + "Project Manager : Withi within the {disfmarker} Yeah , just take it .", + "User Interface : yeah yeah . So you have the up channel {vocalsound} the down channel {disfmarker} the volume , do we want that horizontal or vertical ?", + "Project Manager : Do you take triangles or {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Uh it's it's fine , I think .", + "Project Manager : Um I think it should be I think it {vocalsound} {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : This is basically what people are accustomed to ,", + "Project Manager : Maybe we should make 'em bigger or whatever .", + "User Interface : so {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah , but this is just a g general idea .", + "Marketing : Oh d {gap}", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Uh maybe the menu button can go i in the middle .", + "Project Manager : Yeah , in the middle . It's it's usually uh there , but {disfmarker} Mm .", + "User Interface : Whoa .", + "Industrial Designer : Perhaps we should also make uh something like a flash on it , if you {disfmarker} if it's lost , for people that are deaf . They they won't hear the the beep .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Yeah , but for example if it's lost in your armchair , we'll not see the flash .", + "User Interface : You won't be able to find it . {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : And flash takes up a lot of batteries again .", + "Industrial Designer : Uh . Yeah , it's true , but it's it's only has to do so when you press the button that it's lost .", + "Marketing : Just {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : We could make a combination that it goes beep and that you {disfmarker} that some light lights up .", + "Industrial Designer : So . {gap} deaf people ?", + "Marketing : And L_E_D_ uh on it .", + "Project Manager : Yeah , I thought about for deaf people for example , so . We could do that . Uh let's see .", + "Marketing : Just a light on it or {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : So we have the basic channels we've got here , uh the power button somewhere over here ?", + "Project Manager : Oh yeah , it's true . Um that thing should be central .", + "Marketing : Very important .", + "Project Manager : You shouldn't be {disfmarker} you uh shouldn't press it by accident , but it shouldn't be stacked away somewhere .", + "Marketing : Oh ,", + "User Interface : I usually press it on top .", + "Marketing : that's {disfmarker} It's {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : At least that's what I'm accustomed to .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} I have another idea ,", + "Project Manager : Yeah , like that's gonna work . {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : I'm not sure if it's possible .", + "Marketing : And {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : What would you like to {gap} ?", + "Project Manager : Yeah , I thought maybe we should move the buttons down", + "Marketing : But you r", + "Project Manager : and put it here for example", + "Marketing : And you are reading from the t", + "Project Manager : to {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : you always read from the top to the the bottom of it .", + "Project Manager : From top to bottom . Yeah , that's true ,", + "Marketing : Yeah ,", + "Project Manager : you should {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : so it's {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : I think the bu the power button should be on top ,", + "Industrial Designer : Mm .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : 'cause it's the first thing you do {vocalsound} , turn it on . So power button on top . Um {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Okay , mute button . Is that somewhere here ?", + "Project Manager : Mute . Do we hardly {disfmarker} I think it should be at the bottom somewhere .", + "User Interface : Is that used often ?", + "Marketing : So i it's {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : The mute button ? Do people use that often ?", + "Marketing : sorry ?", + "Project Manager : Mute . Turn the sound off .", + "Marketing : No , it's {disfmarker} no . {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : 'Cause uh I'm pretty much accustomed to it {vocalsound} right over here , at least in general ,", + "Marketing : Uh . Hmm .", + "User Interface : but {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} I don't think it's important , {gap} but I think it I think it should be {disfmarker} you c", + "User Interface : It's not that important , no .", + "Project Manager : you could put it somewhere here .", + "Marketing : Or or with the volume selection . {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : No , because it {disfmarker} Yeah , people are accustomed to that ,", + "Marketing : {vocalsound} Around uh not uh not at top at the {disfmarker} around the volume selection .", + "Project Manager : it's {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Can I have that ? That's j", + "User Interface : Sure .", + "Marketing : I don't know where exactly ,", + "Project Manager : Take this out and here see {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : but {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Uh are we gonna take triangles anyway ? I'm drawing triangles , but {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : That's pretty much what people are accustomed to ,", + "Project Manager : Yeah ,", + "User Interface : aren't they ?", + "Project Manager : it's maybe a bigger lesser than thing . So anyway , I think this is {disfmarker} should be the channels and {disfmarker} or sh", + "User Interface : Well ,", + "Marketing : Wha", + "User Interface : I'm accustomed to the channels being on top .", + "Marketing : No . Yeah .", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} Here ,", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , me too .", + "Project Manager : okay . Okay ,", + "Marketing : Yeah , that's better .", + "Project Manager : should we chan", + "Marketing : On the right .", + "Project Manager : okay , {vocalsound} this two , channel up and down .", + "Industrial Designer : Shall we uh also look if it's possible to make a rechargeable remote ? That you don't have to buy new batteries if every {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Well ,", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : for {disfmarker} that is it's on one part it's um it's a good thing to recharge it {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Maybe it's more ex expensive .", + "Industrial Designer : Mm , yeah .", + "Project Manager : Maybe we should {disfmarker} what what could be possible is one with rechargeable batteries for example .", + "Industrial Designer : Uh .", + "Project Manager : You have {disfmarker} just put Penlite batteries that are rechargeable , because it's an it's it's it's very annoying .", + "User Interface : But isn't that expensive in the entire package ?", + "Industrial Designer : But that's already possible .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : I'm not sure y {vocalsound} I'm not sure it's {disfmarker} if it's expensive , but just take a look at it , because it might be a very good idea . Because if {disfmarker} it's it's uh useful to have it rechargeable ,", + "User Interface : {gap}", + "Project Manager : but at the same time , if you don't want recha if you forgot to recharge it and you wanna watch T_V_ now , you wanna be able to put different batteries in it , use it now and not in half an hour .", + "Industrial Designer : Yes . Yes . Okay . Uh you could make a device , but I'm not sure how that uh is possible with the costs , that you can put in normal batteries , rechargeable ,", + "Project Manager : I think I have a nice idea .", + "Industrial Designer : but it {disfmarker} you're {disfmarker} the remote also can act as a recharger . So then you can choose , you have every decision . Know what I mean ?", + "Project Manager : Not exactly uh .", + "Industrial Designer : You can uh put in normal Penlites , rechargeable Penlites , but they can also be recharged with the remote , with a wire .", + "Marketing : Hmm . Yeah yeah .", + "Project Manager : I think it's uh it's a pretty good idea to have uh like sort of a {disfmarker} maybe a base station that you put on the T_V_ . Could be flat , you could insert your uh remote into it .", + "Industrial Designer : So {disfmarker} but {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Yeah , that's g", + "Industrial Designer : But I think that will cost a lot .", + "Project Manager : I'm not sure .", + "Industrial Designer : Uh a normal wire would be better .", + "Project Manager : A what ?", + "Industrial Designer : Like a like a P_D_A_ , a hand-held . You can uh just put it in the electricity and it charges itself ,", + "Project Manager : Well , we were talking about the fact that we wanted to insert either a beep or a flash into the thing with a little separate signal", + "Industrial Designer : you don't need basic station . Yes .", + "Project Manager : or {disfmarker} So you could put that on a T_V_ for example .", + "Industrial Designer : That is possible , that's true .", + "Project Manager : It could be very flat , could be very small .", + "Marketing : But {disfmarker} Which {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : It's a very small {disfmarker} Yeah , I'm drawing it big now , but {disfmarker} So you can put your remote on flat for example .", + "Industrial Designer : Mm .", + "Project Manager : And at the backside of remote just just just a little hole", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : for example um you just {vocalsound} put it down , it recharges for example .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : I don't think it's very expensive .", + "User Interface : But again , isn't that too expensive ?", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "User Interface : 'Cause that means that we have to implement rechargeable batteries , a docking station {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : I'm not sure if it costs a lot , that that's what he r", + "Industrial Designer : Mm .", + "Project Manager : That's that you {disfmarker} that's what you buy yourself .", + "Industrial Designer : Yes . I'm going to try to find that out . I'm not sure if there's information available on this ,", + "Project Manager : It's just an idea , we have to find out if it's possible .", + "Industrial Designer : but {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : But {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : And do people actually want that ? To pay extra {disfmarker} they want to pay for rechargeable ?", + "Marketing : Yeah , they want to pay for it .", + "Project Manager : Do they want {disfmarker} but they want a rechargeable one ?", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : I'm not sure , you should find out if it's {disfmarker} if rechargeable is important .", + "Marketing : Th uh there was not a el ask esque {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Hmm . These are uh comfort issues . So I think people will pay {disfmarker} they wanted to pay for comfort .", + "Marketing : But {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : They want to pay for comfort ,", + "Industrial Designer : Well , this is comfort .", + "Project Manager : we just assu we we could either make a separate station which just sends a signal to the remote control to either beep or flash to find it ,", + "Marketing : But f hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : Yes .", + "Project Manager : um and {disfmarker} Yeah , we have to {disfmarker} either that or make it integrated with a with a docking station .", + "Industrial Designer : Hmm . Yeah . Exactly . I think this is a brilliant product .", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} I think it would be good actually .", + "Industrial Designer : I would buy it myself .", + "Project Manager : I like the beep part {vocalsound} anyway .", + "Industrial Designer : Uh .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : So um", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : let's go through the {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : I like the covers . That's a brilliant idea .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Can can we save this or {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Covers is covers is good .", + "Industrial Designer : I never thought {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Yeah , it's {disfmarker} Oh we can save this . Up and saved . We even saved the ant . {gap} Um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Okay . So", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : what we have is {disfmarker} you have {disfmarker} I think you have {vocalsound} to do a lot of work on if it's possible for the cost .", + "Industrial Designer : I hope if I have information about that ,", + "Project Manager : Maybe {disfmarker} yeah ,", + "Industrial Designer : I'm gonna {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : or {vocalsound} maybe you can find out i what people are willing to pay .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : We are going for twenty five Euros sales price ,", + "Industrial Designer : {gap}", + "Marketing : Yeah , okay .", + "Project Manager : but just try to find out what they're willing to pay for it , because if they're willing to pay more , we could lose a little profit and maybe attract more customers ,", + "Marketing : Yeah yeah yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Mm . {vocalsound} Yeah ." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "train", + "file_id": 11, + "turns": [ + 189, + 261 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "flying start", + "speaker": "Suzy Davies AM , Julie Morgan AM" + }, + "summary": "Suzy Davies AM wanted to ask a few questions, spoke about the defined geographical targeting of Flying Start support. Julie Morgan talked about a percentage of the income that could be used to go beyond the geographical boundaries and the four elements that were for Flying Start.", + "title": "Geographical Targeting of Flying Start Support", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 26, + 29 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "flying start", + "speaker": "Suzy Davies AM , Julie Morgan AM" + }, + "summary": "Suzy Davies AM; say that: 'defined geographical targeting of Flying Start support will be considered as part of the Welsh Government\u2019s work on the Early Years system; Julie Morgan AM; think they can use 10 percent of their income to go beyond the geographical boundaries, and many of them have done that.", + "title": "Going Beyond the Geographical Boundaries", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 26, + 29 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "parenting support", + "speaker": "Jo-Anne Daniels" + }, + "summary": "Jo-Anne Daniels cautioned about expectations. Not every parent would take up parenting support, nor every child needed speech and language help.", + "title": "Caution on Having Expectations", + "relevant_turns": [ + 50 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "parenting support", + "speaker": "Jo-Anne Daniels" + }, + "summary": "Jo-Anne Daniels said parents would be getting enhanced health visiting, not every parent would take up parenting support.", + "title": "Taking Up Parenting Support", + "relevant_turns": [ + 50 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "people", + "speaker": "Jo-Anne Daniels , Suzy Davies AM" + }, + "summary": "Jo-Anne Daniels talked about having a large number of people, people's incomes, if they were stable or not and the type of jobs people had. Suzy Davies AM talked about improving life chances for individual children and young people.", + "title": "Incomes and Having Jobs", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 41, + 42 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "people", + "speaker": "Jo-Anne Daniels , Suzy Davies AM" + }, + "summary": "Jo-Anne Davies AM talked about it being a transient population in some senses and added about people having incomes that were not stable. Suzy Davies AM termed a third of children as living in poverty and had fallen behind at five and at age 14, half the number was still falling behind.", + "title": "Improving the Life Chances", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 41, + 42 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "wider group", + "speaker": "Julie Morgan AM" + }, + "summary": "Julie Morgan AM talked about trying to get some of those elements to reach a wider group. They had talked earlier about the eight earlier years of transformation pathfinders.", + "title": "Transformation Pathfinders", + "relevant_turns": [ + 45 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "wider group", + "speaker": "Julie Morgan AM" + }, + "summary": "Julie Morgan AM said what they were thinking of doing with Flying Start and then looking at ways that would get some of those elements to reach a wider group and they would try to make it more accessible to more children.", + "title": "Accessibility of Flying Start", + "relevant_turns": [ + 45 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "right number", + "speaker": "Nicola Edwards" + }, + "summary": "Nicola Edwards spoke about, making payments, and ensuring they paid the right number of hours.", + "title": "Existence of Eligibility Checks", + "relevant_turns": [ + 0 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "right number", + "speaker": "Nicola Edwards" + }, + "summary": "Nicola Edwards; talked of making sure they were paying for the right number of hours per child.", + "title": "Making Payments to Childcare Providers", + "relevant_turns": [ + 0 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "income", + "speaker": "Jo-Anne Daniels" + }, + "summary": "Jo-Anne Daniels said there was one issue to think about in terms of the second and in terms of people having an income that was not stable, and jobs that went with this were not stable. Added that in reality, it was a bit more complex.", + "title": "Jo-Anne Daniels' Thoughts on Jobs and Income Stability", + "relevant_turns": [ + 41 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "income", + "speaker": "Jo-Anne Daniels" + }, + "summary": "Jo Anne Daniels said in terms of the income definition it was very black/white.", + "title": "Income Definition", + "relevant_turns": [ + 41 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "children , wales", + "speaker": "Jo-Anne Daniels" + }, + "summary": "Jo-Anne Daniels said there were just over 36,000 children who benefited from Flying Start Services in Wales. They could not be absolutely certain about the number of children within a Flying Start area living in poverty.", + "title": "Assessing Eligibility Within a Flying Start Area", + "relevant_turns": [ + 37 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "children , wales", + "speaker": "Jo-Anne Daniels" + }, + "summary": "Jo-Anne Daniels said about 23 percent of children, overall, in Wales.", + "title": "Children Benefitting from Flying Start Services", + "relevant_turns": [ + 37 + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "Nicola Edwards : They wouldn't have to do the eligibility checks, but they would still have to make payments to the childcare providers and make sure they were paying for the right number of hours in respect of each child. So, parents would still need to tell them where their child was going, and there would still need to be some work alongside that.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : Okay. Si\u00e2n, do you want to ask about the Welsh language?", + "Sian Gwenllian AM : I think we've\u2014. I'm happy with that.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : Really\u2014?", + "Sian Gwenllian AM : I don't think that that was the real reason why the change happened.", + "Julie Morgan AM : One of the reasons.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : Nevertheless, the committee was given very concrete assurances that the Welsh language side of this was going to be covered off. Have you got anything that you want to add on that? Obviously, for us as a committee, we believe what we're told when we are given assurances. So, that's quite concerning for us, really, that that suddenly then became an issue, when both HMRC and the Minister at the time told us that this wasn't going to be a problem.", + "Nicola Edwards : So, I think it's the point that I was talking about earlier. There's a difference between a bilingual service in the context of what HMRC understood that to be, in the context of their scheme, and the very detail of the standards when they got into their IT systems.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : Shouldn't that have been something that was worked out at the beginning?", + "Nicola Edwards : Possibly, but they did need to do quite detailed work, not just into their own IT systems, but the feed-in systems from the Home Office, the Department for Work and Pensions and the Post Office as well, to understand the full complexity of how the standards would comply across all of that. They do provide a bilingual service. It was just some of the specific details of the requirements placed on the Welsh Ministers, because it is the Welsh Ministers' standards that they would need to deliver against that they were struggling with.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : Right, okay.", + "Sian Gwenllian AM : Yes, but those standards were there right from the very beginning.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : I think that the committee would feel that that should have been bottomed out at the beginning, really.", + "Sian Gwenllian AM : Nothing has changed in terms of the standards.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : Okay, just before we move on to Flying Start, can I just ask: the Minister mentioned a longer term review of the childcare offer. Are you able to give us any indication of when that will report, please?", + "Julie Morgan AM : Would we have any idea?", + "Nicola Edwards : We haven't set out a definitive timescale on that as of yet because we've been focusing very much on getting the review in terms of training, education and on the cusp of returning to work up and running. But sometime next year.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : Okay. So, it will report sometime next year.", + "Nicola Edwards : Yes.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : Okay, thank you. We'll move on now to Flying Start and questions from Suzy Davies.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Thank you, Chair. Can I just begin by asking you how you respond to the assertion that children from the most disadvantaged backgrounds do better in a mixed socioeconomic environment than in a targeted environment?", + "Julie Morgan AM : I think that's what Flying Start does, isn't it? Yes, I would have thought that was likely.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Well, the reason I'm asking you that, of course, is because this committee has suggested, perhaps, changes to the outreach system to target more disadvantaged children, and not necessarily capture people who happen to be in a geographic area.", + "Julie Morgan AM : So, you're saying that you feel that a universal offer in certain areas is not advantageous to\u2014", + "Suzy Davies AM : Well, I'm asking you, really. If it's the case that we're only going after disadvantaged children, which would take very precise targeting\u2014", + "Julie Morgan AM : I'm not only going after disadvantaged children. I feel that we should be offering something for all children, and our considerations are for all children. The reason we've targeted Flying Start is because it would be great if we had enough money to have Flying Start throughout the whole of Wales, but we just don't have that sort of money. Because I think Flying Start has proved to be a great\u2014very successful.", + "Suzy Davies AM : I'm going to ask you a few more questions on that. Because just in response to this committee's 2018 report, you did say that: 'defined geographical targeting of Flying Start support will be considered as part of the Welsh Government\u2019s work on the Early Years system.' That suggests you still have geographic targeting in mind. So, if you're looking at a very mixed source of economic experience for children, what are the geographic boundaries you're considering?", + "Julie Morgan AM : At the moment, Flying Start can go beyond the geographical boundaries, with the extension\u2014", + "Suzy Davies AM : With limits, yes.", + "Julie Morgan AM : Yes. I think they can use 10 per cent of their income to go beyond the geographical boundaries, and many of them have done that. But, obviously, there are four elements to Flying Start, and only those geographical areas have got the four elements, but there could be the opportunity of extending some of that beyond the Flying Start geographical areas. We're looking at this.", + "Suzy Davies AM : I accept what you say about the current system\u2014", + "Julie Morgan AM : I believe it's much more\u2014. I believe very strongly in having a universal system, where everybody is able to access it.", + "Suzy Davies AM : I appreciate that as well. But, obviously, there are huge cost implications for that\u2014unless you're giving us some insight into what you're going to say next week, I don't know. But actually, defining anything geographically, which now seems to be fairly arbitrary, because it's not targeted purely at disadvantaged children\u2014on what basis are we choosing the geographic areas we are choosing at the moment?", + "Julie Morgan AM : Well, they're chosen then because of the benefit take-up in those particular areas. So, it's reaching some of the poorest children, but not all of the poorest children, but it's reaching the poorest children in a way that is not stigmatising, and where the services are open to everybody, and I think that's very important.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Okay. Well, having established that, we have fairly recent research here that a third of children living in poverty in Wales are already falling behind at the age of five\u2014that suggests that two thirds of them aren't, but it's still a very worrying statistic. Not all children live in Flying Start areas; how are you going to reach that third who, even at such an early age, are already falling behind? How many of them are in Flying Start areas?", + "Julie Morgan AM : I think the actual number of children in poverty, the most disadvantaged that we reach through the Flying Start areas\u2014I think it's about 46 per cent. Is that\u2014? Do you know the actual percentage?", + "Suzy Davies AM : It's about a quarter of total children are in there, but\u2014", + "Jo-Anne Daniels : So, just to give you a few of the numbers, there are just over 36,000 children benefiting from Flying Start services. That equates to about 23 per cent of children, overall, in Wales. And because of the nature of the benefit take-up data, and because we don't assess eligibility within a Flying Start area, we can't be absolutely certain how many children within a Flying Start area are actually in poverty. So, it's an estimate, and it's a range, and the range is that around 45 per cent of children in Flying Start areas would be in poverty.FootnoteLink", + "Suzy Davies AM : Well, that's interesting. I would have expected it to be much higher than that, particularly if the geographic areas had been targeted on benefit claims, effectively. Are you disappointed that the proportion is\u2014basically, 55 per cent of those children aren't living in poverty. That's what you're saying, isn't it?", + "Jo-Anne Daniels : Well, I'd offer two observations. One: the nature of poverty in Wales is actually, generally, more dispersed than perhaps sometimes is appreciated. Yes, we have very concentrated areas of\u2014", + "Suzy Davies AM : Well, actually, we do appreciate it, which is why we're asking this question. [Laughter.]", + "Jo-Anne Daniels : Okay. So that's one issue to think about. Sorry, I've lost my train of thought now, in terms of the second\u2014oh, sorry: whether you're in or out of poverty is, in one sense, very black/white. But in reality of course\u2014in terms of the income definition, it's very black/white. But, of course, there will be a large number of people who are just above, but also families who move in and out, so it's quite a transient population in some senses, in terms of people having incomes that aren't stable, people having jobs that go with that that aren't stable. So, at any one point in time, you're only sort of capturing a snapshot of what's happening. In reality, it's a bit more complex than that.", + "Suzy Davies AM : I accept that. I mentioned a third of children living in poverty had fallen behind at five; by the age of 14, half that number is still falling behind, so something has happened between that third and that half to improve the life chances of those individual children or young people. Is that attributable to Flying Start? Can you say that candidly? Or is it a happy coincidence, where there could be some causation, but we can\u2019t prove it?", + "Jo-Anne Daniels : We certainly think that Flying Start is making a positive impact, both on the point at which children go to school, and then subsequently. And I think as the committee knows, we\u2019ve been working with the SAIL\u2014secure anonymised information linkage\u2014and the databank there to look at how we can do longitudinal studies to track children\u2019s progress, to look at the extent to which outcomes are effected by Flying Start interventions.", + "Suzy Davies AM : We probably don't have time for this level of detail today, but half of those children are still behind at the age of 14. So, I'd be curious to know if there's any immediate plans to help them catch up or make sure that their successors don't fall into the same position, the same trap. Have you got anything high level that you can mention at this stage?", + "Julie Morgan AM : Just in terms of what we\u2019re thinking of doing with Flying Start\u2014. The key thing about Flying Start is the collaborative way that it works with the health visitors and all the speech and language therapists and childcare, and we\u2019re looking at ways of trying to get some of those elements to reach a wider group. And as I said, we talked about earlier the eight earlier years transformation pathfinders that we talked about in the local authorities\u2014we talked about that earlier\u2014so, that\u2019s where we\u2019re going to look at Flying Start and how we can try to make it more accessible to more children. So, we do want to extend the benefits of Flying Start. We do want to make it available to more children, and that\u2019s what we\u2019re looking at. And we\u2019re looking at that in those eight pathfinder areas. And you'll have to wait to see what we come up with\u2014", + "Suzy Davies AM : No, no\u2014we'll ask you more about that in due course. Actually, that job would be an awful lot easier if you knew how many children within Flying Start areas were taking up all four elements. Why don't you know that? Why is that data not collected?", + "Julie Morgan AM : Do we know why?", + "Jo-Anne Daniels : So, the approach that we\u2019ve taken to evaluation in Flying Start\u2014. The committee will have seen the various evaluation reports that have been published, and I know that you\u2019re familiar with the work that, as I say, we\u2019ve been doing with SAIL. We\u2019re currently focusing on individual data collection, and through that we want to be able to report on levels of engagement, but also outcomes for children. We\u2019ve been piloting that new approach in six local authorities. We hope to be able to extend that, and we hope to be able to provide more evidence about the interventions and the impact that they then achieve.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Okay. All right. Because, to be honest, I would want to know if a child\u2019s chances have improved primarily because they\u2019re getting good-quality childcare or primarily because their parents are taking up parenting courses. There\u2019s got to be some indication somewhere in here about which of these four elements is making the greatest difference.", + "Jo-Anne Daniels : I would just caution in terms of expectations. It will always be quite difficult to definitively provide answers to that, because many parents will be taking these things up in combination. So, disentangling which has had the effect is, obviously, quite tricky\u2014in particular, all parents will be getting the enhanced health visiting. Not every parent will take up parenting support, not every child will need speech and language help, so\u2014", + "Suzy Davies AM : And that's why we need to know who is.", + "Jo-Anne Daniels : Disentangling what's helped and what hasn't I think will always be quite a difficult thing to do.", + "Suzy Davies AM : But it would also be helpful to know which combinations work best as well. Just on the final point from me\u2014yes, 88 per cent of Flying Start's childcare offers were taken up, but we've had some local authorities where the take-up has dropped dramatically. I think Denbighshire was down a fair bit, wasn't it, and Ceredigion, I think, had had a poor take-up. Have you got any indication why? I'm thinking of Denbighshire particularly, where there is a tradition\u2014taking up third-party childcare is cultural there, whereas in Ceredigion,\u00a0for example, there are far fewer places available in the first place and less of a tradition of children taking up childcare. But what's happened in Denbighshire?", + "Julie Morgan AM : I think there are a number of different reasons why parents do decide not to use a facility, and, obviously, that always exists, but each local authority has a Flying Start account manager in place to support them in the delivery of the programme and the account management activities, and there are formal account meetings that look at this sort of thing once a year\u2014", + "Suzy Davies AM : So, what have they told you?", + "Julie Morgan AM : \u2014and these meetings will take place in November 2019. That's when the specific delivery issues will be discussed in depth, so that's when we'll find out what has happened and why there may have been a drop.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Can I just ask about the timing of that? Because if you already know that there's a 6 per cent drop, why will it take the best part of a year to\u2014well, November's only next month, to be fair, now, but why will it take that length of time to establish why there's a drop? You'd have thought if you'd seen a trend like that\u2014", + "Julie Morgan AM : Obviously, they meet at certain times and they will assess what's happened. That seems quite normal to me.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Okay, but we'll get a note on that, is it? It's just that they knew this six months ago.", + "Julie Morgan AM : In November, we'll have more information about this, so we can let you have information about that.", + "Suzy Davies AM : That would be really helpful, just for\u2014. I'm sure constituents in Denbighshire will want to know about that. And then finally from me, Chair, if I may, Flying Start beneficiaries\u2014it's got a specific explanation of what a Flying Start beneficiary is, but I think, particularly in view of the evidence we've heard on this committee about parental support in connection with the removal of the defence of reasonable chastisement, for example, this committee is very concerned about what's out there in terms of parental support. Eighteen per cent of Flying Start beneficiaries have parents attending the informal parenting courses; that's 18 per cent, that's not very high. Any idea about what you might be able to do to encourage take-up or is that very locally decided?", + "Lynne Neagle AM : If I can add to that, obviously, somebody only has to attend one course\u2014we've got no way of knowing whether parents are completing the whole of a course, really.", + "Julie Morgan AM : Obviously, the offer is there for parents to take up the parenting courses, and there are four elements to Flying Start, and maybe some of the parents don't feel that they want to or need to. I don't think we've got any more evidence on that for take-up\u2014", + "Suzy Davies AM : Well, the reach of this is going to be important, because we need the reassurance on the back of the legislation that is going through at the moment.", + "Julie Morgan AM : Absolutely, yes.", + "Jo-Anne Daniels : Parenting courses are, of course, one aspect of parenting support, but not the only one, and they'll be appropriate for a lot of parents, but for some not. What all parents do get at an enhanced level in Flying Start is the support of the health visitor, so the health visitor is, in effect, providing a significant amount of support for parenting. Now, that can be practical things like weaning or potty training et cetera, but, actually, it's also about managing a child's behaviour, managing how a parent develops that bonding and that attachment with their child. So, the role of the health visitor in supporting a parent to be a parent is absolutely critical, and every parent in Flying Start areas will be getting that enhanced level of support. Of course, it's not just in Flying Start areas now, because with the Healthy Child Wales programme, the universal programme of health visiting visits, we have a much more consistent and standardised set of visits and engagements with parents that cover a lot of these areas. In addition, I'd also add that when parents use the childcare in Flying Start, or childcare generally outside of Flying Start areas, there is often a lot of working between the childcare setting and the parent over parenting\u2014again, managing a child's behaviour, managing any issues that the childcare worker thinks are emerging in terms of whether it's eating or, again, toileting. So, parenting courses are important, but it's really essential that we see those in the broader context of the different ways in which lots of professionals interact with parents, providing them with advice, guidance and support, and actually what works for parents in terms of how they take on board some of that advice and that help. Sometimes a formal course is quite off-putting for parents, but the sort of quiet word, the top tips, the advice that a friendly professional gives can be very, very impactful.", + "Suzy Davies AM : That's a really helpful answer. It does raise, unfortunately, another question about whether a health visitor in those circumstances might find themselves in a difficult position if they're dealing with a parent who has smacked a child, but we'll leave that for Stage 3.", + "Julie Morgan AM : We'll be dealing with that, I'm sure.", + "Suzy Davies AM : But thank you; that was a helpful answer. Thank you, Chair.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : Okay. Thank you. Are there any other questions from Members? No. Okay. Well, can I thank the Minister and the officials for attending this morning? As usual, you'll be sent a transcript to check for accuracy following the meeting, but thank you again for your attendance. Thank you.", + "Julie Morgan AM : Thank you very much.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : Okay. Item 4 is papers to note. There's just one today: the letter from the WLGA regarding the Childcare Funding (Wales) Act 2019 in response to our letter asking about the change in approach. Item 5 then. Can I propose, in accordance with Standing Order 17.42, that the committee resolves to meet in private for the remainder of the meeting? Are Members content? Thank you." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "train", + "file_id": 45, + "turns": [ + 0, + 48 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "progress updates", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "A meeting had not been held for a long time and a number of people had gone. 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Oh so you 're only using the silence .", + "PhD C : Yeah .", + "PhD D : Yeah , because when we apply the KLT", + "PhD C : No they 're {disfmarker} I think there is this silence in addition to the um KLT outputs", + "Professor B : No .", + "PhD D : in addition , yes .", + "PhD C : it is because we {disfmarker} we {disfmarker} we just keep uh we don't keep all the dimensions after the KLT", + "PhD D : In addition t", + "PhD C : and {disfmarker} yeah .", + "PhD D : and we not s we are not sure if we pick {disfmarker} we have the silence .", + "PhD C : So we try to add the silence also in addition to the {disfmarker} these twenty - eight dimensions .", + "Professor B : I see . OK . And what {disfmarker} and what 's OGI forty - five ? The bottom one there ?", + "PhD C : Uh it 's o it 's OGI two , it 's {disfmarker} so the {disfmarker} th it 's the features from the first line", + "PhD D : It 's in fact OGI two .", + "Professor B : S", + "PhD C : and {disfmarker} yeah .", + "Professor B : Right , but I mean what 's the {disfmarker} what does the last row mean ?", + "PhD C : So it 's uh basically this but without the KLT on the {disfmarker} from the left path .", + "Professor B : I thought that was the one {disfmarker} I thought that was the second row . So what 's the difference between the second", + "PhD C : Uh the second line you don't have this combo stuff so you just", + "Professor B : Oh .", + "PhD C : uh", + "Professor B : So this is like the second line but with {disfmarker} with the combo stuff .", + "PhD C : Yeah . Yeah .", + "PhD D : And with the {disfmarker} all the output of the combo .", + "Professor B : OK . Yeah .", + "PhD C : Yeah .", + "PhD D : Uh", + "Professor B : OK , so {disfmarker} alright so it looks to me {disfmarker} I guess the same {disfmarker} given that we have to take the filt ones out of the {disfmarker} the running because of this delay problem {disfmarker} so it looks to me like the ones you said I agree are {disfmarker} are the ones to look at", + "PhD C : Mm - hmm .", + "Professor B : but I just would add the {disfmarker} the {disfmarker} the second row one", + "PhD C : Yeah .", + "Professor B : and then um if we can um", + "PhD C : Mmm .", + "Professor B : oh yeah also when {disfmarker} when they 're using this weighting scheme of forty , thirty - five , twenty - five is that on the percentages or on the raw errors ? I guess it 's probably on the percentages right ?", + "PhD C : Uh {vocalsound} I guess , yeah .", + "Professor B : Yeah OK .", + "PhD C : I guess , yeah . Mmm .", + "Professor B : Alright .", + "PhD C : It 's not clear here .", + "Professor B : OK . Maybe {disfmarker} maybe they 'll argue about it . Um OK so if we can know what {disfmarker} how many words are in each and then um Dave uh Dave promised to get us something tomorrow which will be there as far as they 've gotten {vocalsound} Friday", + "PhD C : Mm - hmm .", + "Professor B : and then we 'll operate with that", + "PhD C : Yeah .", + "Professor B : and uh how long did it I guess if we 're not doing all these things {disfmarker} if we 're only doing um um I guess since this is development data it 's legitimate to do more than one , right ? I mean ordinarily if {disfmarker} in final test data you don't want to do several and {disfmarker} and take the best", + "PhD C : Yeah . Mmm .", + "Professor B : that 's {disfmarker} that 's {disfmarker} that 's not proper but if this is development data we could still look at a couple ." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "test", + "file_id": 11, + "turns": [ + 84, + 215 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "call button", + "speaker": "Project Manager" + }, + "summary": "The idea was to implement a call button on the television in order for the user to always know where the remote was placed. The remote could vibrate and light up. The Project Manager approved the idea, noticing the function was already working on portable phones and their bases.", + "title": "Project Manager's Opinion for Call Button", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 19, + 26 + ], + [ + 35, + 39 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "call button", + "speaker": "Project Manager" + }, + "summary": "The Project Manager was really pleased with the User Interface's idea about integrating a call button for the remote control on television. The inspiration came from portable phones and their bases. The possibility to find a remote by pushing a button on television was efficient. The remote control could light up, vibrate and make noise to indicate its location.", + "title": "Project Manager's Opinion for Call Button", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 19, + 26 + ], + [ + 35, + 39 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "remote control size", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "The remote control had to be difficult to lose but could not be huge, according to the meeting participants. Hand-sized would be best according to the team. User Interface agreed that size of remote possible to be hand held was popular among celebrities.", + "title": "The Size of Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 61, + 70 + ], + 120 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "remote control size", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Should the remote be bigger in order not to get lost was discussed. It was agreed it should not be huge but hand-sized. Hand-held size idea of the remote came from celebrities' houses and was brought up by User Interface.", + "title": "The Size of Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 61, + 70 + ], + 120 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "cost constraints , telly screen , programming function", + "speaker": "Project Manager" + }, + "summary": "The Project Manager pondered about the remote having a little screen, just like mobiles. It would limit the number of buttons but had no impact on its functions. Channels would be programmable. The screen on the device or the telly was still debatable. The Cost of such implementation had to be considered due to the budget.", + "title": "Project Manager's Opinion about the Possibility for a Telly Screen", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 96, + 109 + ], + 126, + [ + 129, + 131 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "cost constraints ; telly screen ; programming function", + "speaker": "Project Manager" + }, + "summary": "Project Manager expressed the device could have a little screen and less buttons similar to the mobile phones, and users could programme their favorite channels if they have a hundred channels. Project Manager still did not decide if the screen would be on the device or if it would be on the telly transmitting the screen. It was brought to his attention programming function might be expensive for the allocated budget.", + "title": "Project Manager's Opinion about the Possibility for a Telly Screen", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 96, + 109 + ], + 126, + [ + 129, + 131 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "euro , profit aim , selling price goal", + "speaker": "Project Manager , Marketing" + }, + "summary": "The Project Manager informed the profit aim was fifty million Euro and selling price goal was twenty-five Euro, selling internationally. Marketing explained any remote's profit was twelve fifty, what made for four millions.", + "title": "Project Manager Reveals Profit Aim", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 0, + 10 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "euro , profit aim , selling price goal", + "speaker": "Project Manager , Marketing" + }, + "summary": "Project Manager: selling price goal is twenty five Euro and profit aim is fifty million Euro; guessing; not actually in Scotland; in some European country; hope to sell this internationally; Marketing; How many should we sell; Four million; the profit so if a profit for each is twelve fifty, that'll do four million", + "title": "Project Manager Reveals Profit Aim", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 0, + 10 + ] + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "Project Manager : {gap} Oh my gosh , this is disastrous . Sorry about that . {vocalsound} Okay . {vocalsound} So moving on . Our selling price goal is twenty five Euro and profit aim is fifty million Euro . So I'm guessing that we're not actually in Scotland , we're in some European country {vocalsound} . Um , and we will hope to sell this internationally .", + "User Interface : Sorry can you just say that {disfmarker} what's the {disfmarker} what are our price goals again ?", + "Project Manager : Um selling price is twenty five Euro . Profit aim fifty million Euro .", + "User Interface : Okay .", + "Marketing : How many should we sell then ? {vocalsound} Um , a lot ,", + "Project Manager : Anyone a mathematician ? {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : two two two million , {gap} two mi no , more f four million .", + "Industrial Designer : Two million .", + "Marketing : Four million . And it {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : well it's the profit so if a profit for each is twelve fifty , that'll do four million .", + "Industrial Designer : Oh , yeah .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound} It is a lot . Uh .", + "Project Manager : So f that's a fifty percent um uh . Um , I don't know what these mean because I didn't actually make the slide-show . Experience with remote control . So I guess we have to reflect on our experiences with remote controls to decide what um we would like to see in a convenient , practical , nice remote control . Um so do we have any initial ideas for uh how this remote control should be designed or formatted or the the buttons it should have .", + "Marketing : Um , I think one thing is that it should be easy to find", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : I was thinking that too .", + "Marketing : bec yeah {vocalsound} bec", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : I think we should design something that has like a {disfmarker} so you can {disfmarker} like somehow like you {disfmarker} I mean you always know where your T_V_ is , so just have a call button ,", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : I've always wanted that ,", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : so like {vocalsound} you can push a button on your T_V_ {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Yeah , yeah yeah yeah yeah .", + "Project Manager : I mean you have it for the portable phone , so why not {disfmarker} yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah , yeah yeah yeah , so you should have a call button on your television to be able to find your remote control .", + "Marketing : Yeah . And even I think a little light . Um or even a {disfmarker} maybe a vib a vibrating thing . I dunno but someth because it's usually under the sofa .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Yeah . Yeah .", + "Marketing : In which case you're going to be l but if it has a sort of signal which isn't any sound {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Marketing : I don't know if it's expensive maybe to {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : I don't {disfmarker} yeah I mean it {disfmarker} but like I mean {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Maybe call is enough . But yeah .", + "User Interface : just I mean like your phone even just has so {disfmarker} like it can vibrate , it can light up and make noise and I dunno {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : Yeah yeah yeah . Yeah .", + "Project Manager : What if it had something like um just like a magnet on the back of it and you could {disfmarker} I mean j just to have some place to put it besides like a base . You know like a portable phone has a base ,", + "User Interface : Yeah . Yeah , or if it had a {disfmarker} yeah .", + "Project Manager : like just to have a home for it .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : Yeah yeah yeah yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah ,", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} 'Cause people just stick it on top of their T_V_ , but the point of having a remote is not to have to walk over to the T_V_ , so {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : I mean {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} Well that's why it's always in the couch .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Yeah {vocalsound} .", + "User Interface : Yeah , in in the couch {vocalsound} .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : {gap}", + "User Interface : I dunno , it seems like though that that would be hard , 'cause you not you're not gonna be lazy anyway and {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Yeah . Maybe we should design couches that have the remote control in the side arm . {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Yeah so we {disfmarker} {vocalsound} the project is now couches and remote controls .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound} But even just a thing to attach it to the w you know if you had a thing , a pretty object attached to the wall . But that would really make it more expensive .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Marketing : But it's only a plastic thing , r really , the thing on the wall .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Something like that .", + "Project Manager : Do you think it needs to be bigger to not lose , or does that not factor in ?", + "Marketing : And the other thing is {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Bigger .", + "Marketing : Not {disfmarker} well it needs to be sort of {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Like Hand hand held size , yeah .", + "User Interface : Hand-sized .", + "Marketing : Yeah . I don't think you need a {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Not not huge , but {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : But definitely not {disfmarker} well I don't know .", + "User Interface : It can't be that hard to put some kind of a noise on it .", + "Marketing : No , it can't be , uh-uh .", + "Industrial Designer : No it really wouldn't be .", + "Project Manager : Huh .", + "User Interface : Or like or like a light thing . You know . I dunno {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound} Like spaceship .", + "User Interface : . Yeah {vocalsound} . Or make it mobile so it runs around and comes come find you yeah {vocalsound} .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : That would be really {disfmarker} I'm sure we could do that for twenty five Euros a pop .", + "Project Manager : Little homing device . {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Um .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} Yeah {vocalsound} . Uh .", + "Project Manager : Okay . So what do we think this remote control should {disfmarker} Five minutes .", + "Marketing : Oh dear .", + "Project Manager : Till the meeting {disfmarker} oh right . This is what we have left . Um , oh we just {gap}", + "User Interface : I also think though that it shouldn't have too many buttons ,", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , I agree .", + "User Interface : 'cause I hate that when they have too many buttons and {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} B_ button and the F_ button , they don't do anything .", + "Marketing : Yeah , yeah yeah .", + "User Interface : I mean I know it has to have enough functions but like , I don't know you , just have like eight thousand buttons and you're like , no , you never use half of them . So .", + "Project Manager : You {disfmarker} what if um may be a little fancy but what if it had like a little screen , so it has less buttons but it still has all the functions . Like the way a mobile phone does .", + "User Interface : That would be cool .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah . I mean it just seems like {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : So you could like um {disfmarker} like if you have I dunno if you have satellite if you have a hundred channels , you can {disfmarker} the way you do it on your radio is that you uh {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : yeah .", + "Project Manager : what do you call it {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Select . Uh .", + "Project Manager : s y yeah but you can programme , so you can programme like your favourite channels , so like if you had a s", + "Marketing : But , would you have the screen on the thing , or would you have it on the telly transmitting the screen .", + "Project Manager : That's something we could decide . Mm .", + "Marketing : Because {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : I guess they would go together somehow ? I dunno .", + "Marketing : Because , I don't know if it's {disfmarker} {vocalsound} I think it's e expensive , if you have {disfmarker} if you use the telly screen , 'cause the telly's already a screen , then you can pro sort of have a programming function , really easy sort of arrow up and down , on the remote ,", + "Project Manager : Yeah . Yeah .", + "Marketing : and then use the telly as a screen .", + "Project Manager : Right .", + "Marketing : But um {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : I'm thinking kind of {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : But yeah for sure . Something like not {disfmarker} it's not on the button but it's telling you what to do ,", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Marketing : is that what you mean ?", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Right . Mm .", + "User Interface : Or like you h you see those you know people {disfmarker} I'm thinking of like celebrity cribs kind of things when like they have all those {disfmarker} these things that at their house you know {disfmarker} their their entire house is so electronic , and they have like this one master control that {disfmarker} and it's like a hand held like {disfmarker} turns on everything sort of control and it has like a screen and like {disfmarker} so I think it should be possible to have some kind of a screen , I don't know if {disfmarker} it must be {disfmarker} it would probably {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "User Interface : must be ex too expensive though t like I dunno .", + "Project Manager : Mm .", + "Marketing : But like mobile phones have screens and they're cheap .", + "User Interface : Yeah , yeah . Yeah that's true .", + "Project Manager : Yeah . I mean , we have to remember our budget is twelve point {disfmarker} twelve fifty for {disfmarker} to actually make the device .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Project Manager : Um but it's something to think about , yeah .", + "User Interface : Well , I guess we have to get to that later , yeah .", + "Project Manager : I mean we'll have to see how much that would be ." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "train", + "file_id": 25, + "turns": [ + 0, + 56 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "data collection", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Grad C summarized in two sentences about the data collection. They would read a task with lots of german names thrown in between and would read isolated proper names that change.", + "title": "Collection of Data", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 32, + 38 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "data collection", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Grad C; We were gonna put this in front of people.", + "title": "First Step of Data Collection Routine", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 32, + 38 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "parameter choices", + "speaker": "Professor D" + }, + "summary": "Professor D said they would work on the semantics of belief and how decisions turned out to be parameter choices for calls on other modules, talked of a fairly large set of parameters. Added about the two things they needed to do and said they would do the technical stuff some other day, they were working with Fey on what would be contained in the dialogues. One of the steps that were coming up really soon was to get the subject in there.", + "title": "Working with Fey", + "relevant_turns": [ + 23 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "parameter choices", + "speaker": "Professor D" + }, + "summary": "Professor D spoke about the decisions that would turn out to be parameter choices for calls on other modules. They needed to figure out what all the choices were. They then needed to figure out what influenced its choices and finally, they had to do some technical work on the actual belief relations and presumably estimates of the probabilities and stuff, but they were not going to do the probability stuff today.", + "title": "Things to Do on the Parameters", + "relevant_turns": [ + 23 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "intention", + "speaker": "Grad C" + }, + "summary": "Grad C said the tasks more or less implied that the user wanted to go there, some time or the other. Analogously, for example, they had their EVA intention. Those were the data tasks where they assumed the person would like to enter, view, or just approached the thing. Analogously the same on the object information which they could see that and talk about how they had come up with their decision nodes.", + "title": "The Analogous Interpretation", + "relevant_turns": [ + 20 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "intention", + "speaker": "Grad C" + }, + "summary": "Grad C talked of trying to implant the intention of going to a place now, later, or sometime on the next tour or whenever.", + "title": "Implanting an Intention for Every Decision Node", + "relevant_turns": [ + 20 + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "Grad C : Now can you give me the uh {pause} remote T ?", + "Professor D : OK , so Eva , co uh {disfmarker} could you read your numbers ?", + "Grad A : Go ahead and read . OK .", + "Professor D : Yeah .", + "Grad C : Alright .", + "Professor D : Yeah , let 's get started . Um {disfmarker} Hopefully Nancy will come , if not , she won't .", + "Grad B : Uh , Robert , do you uh have any way to turn off your uh screensaver on there so that it 's not going off every {disfmarker} uh , it seems to have about at two minute {disfmarker}", + "Grad C : Yeah , I 've {disfmarker} I {disfmarker} uh {disfmarker} it 's not that I didn't try .", + "Grad B : OK .", + "Grad C : and um I {disfmarker} I told it to stay on forever and ever , but if it 's not plugged in it just doesn't obey my commands .", + "Grad B : OK .", + "Grad C : It has a mind .", + "Grad B : Got it .", + "Grad C : But I I just {disfmarker} You know , sort of keep on wiggling .", + "Undergrad E : Wants to conserve .", + "Grad B : Yeah , OK .", + "Grad C : But uh {disfmarker} we 'll just be m m working on it at intensity so it doesn't happen . We 'll see . Should we plunge right into it ?", + "Professor D : Yeah .", + "Grad C : So , would you like to {disfmarker}", + "Professor D : I think so .", + "Grad C : So what I 've tried to do here is list all the decision nodes that we have identified on this {pause} side . Commented and {disfmarker} what they 're about and sort of {disfmarker} the properties we may um give them . And here are the uh {disfmarker} tasks to be implemented via our data collection . So all of these tasks {disfmarker} The reading is out of these tasks more or less imply that the user wants to go there , sometime or the other . And analogously for example , here we have our EVA um {disfmarker} intention . And these are the data tasks where w we can assume the person would like to enter , view or just approach the thing . Analogously the same on the object information we can see that , you know , we have sort of created these tasks before we came up with our decision nodes so there 's a lot of things where we have no analogous tasks , and {pause} that may or may not be a problem . We can change the tasks slightly if we feel that we should have data for e sort of for every decision node so {disfmarker} trying to im um {disfmarker} implant the intention of going to a place now , going to a place later on the same tour , or trying to plant the intention of going sometime on the next tour , or the next day or whenever .", + "Professor D : Right , right .", + "Grad C : But I think that might be overdoing it a little .", + "Professor D : So {disfmarker} Yeah . So let me pop up a level . And uh s s make sure that we 're all oriented the same . So What we 're gonna do today is two related things . Uh one of them is to work on the semantics of the belief - net which is going to be the main inference engine for thi the system uh making decisions . And decisions are going to turn out to be parameter choices for calls on other modules . so f the natural language understanding thing is uh , we think gonna only have to choose parameters , but You know , a fairly large set of parameters . So to do that , we need to do two things . One of which is figure out what all the choices are , which we 've done a fair amount . Then we need to figure out what influences its choices and finally we have to do some technical work on the actual belief relations and presumably estimates of the probabilities and stuff . But we aren't gonna do the probability stuff today . Technical stuff we 'll do {disfmarker} uh {disfmarker} another day . Probably next week . But we are gonna worry about all the decisions and the things that pert that contribute to them . And we 're also , sort of uh in the same process , going to work with Fey on what there should be in the dialogues . So One of the s steps that 's coming up real soon is to actually get subjects uh {disfmarker} in here , and have them actually record like this . Uh record dialogues more or less . And {disfmarker} depending on what Fey sort of provokes them to say , we 'll get information on different things .", + "Grad C : Well how people phrase different intentions more or less ,", + "Professor D : So {disfmarker} Fo - v yeah people with the {disfmarker} phrase them", + "Grad C : huh ?", + "Professor D : and so {disfmarker} Uh for , you know , Keith and people worrying about what constructions people use , uh {disfmarker} we have some i we have some ways to affect that by the way the dialogues go . So what Robert kindly did , is to lay out a table of the kinds of uh {pause} things that {disfmarker} that might come up , and , the kinds of decisions . So the uh {disfmarker} uh {disfmarker} on the left are decision nodes , and discreet values . So if {disfmarker} if we 're right , you can get by with um just this middle column worth of decisions , and it 's not all that many , and it 's perfectly feasible technically to build belief - nets that will do that . And he has a handout .", + "Grad C : Yeah . Maybe it was too fast plunging in there , because j we have two updates .", + "Professor D : Yeah .", + "Grad C : Um you can look at this if you want , these are what our subject 's going to have to fill out . Any comments I can {disfmarker} can still be made and the changes will be put in correspondingly .", + "Undergrad E : m {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Yes .", + "Grad C : Let me summarize in two sentences , mainly for Eva 's benefit , who probably has not heard about the data collection , at all .", + "Grad A : OK .", + "Grad C : Or have you heard about it ?", + "Grad A : Not that much you didn't .", + "Grad C : No . OK . We were gonna put this in front of people . They give us some information on themselves .", + "Grad A : OK .", + "Grad C : Then {disfmarker} then they will read uh {disfmarker} a task where lots of German words are sort of thrown in between . And um {disfmarker} and they have to read isolated proper names And these change {disfmarker}", + "Professor D : S I don't see a release", + "Grad C : No , this is not the release form . This is the speaker information form .", + "Professor D : Got it . OK , fine . OK .", + "Grad C : The release form is over there in that box .", + "Professor D : Alright , fair enough .", + "Grad C : And um {disfmarker} And then they gonna have to f um um choose from one of these tasks , which are listed here . They {disfmarker} they pick a couple , say three {disfmarker} uh {disfmarker} uh six as a matter of fact . Six different things they sort of think they would do if they were in Heidelberg or traveling someplace {disfmarker} and um {disfmarker} and they have a map .", + "Grad B : Hmm .", + "Grad C : Like this . Very sketchy , simplified map . And they can take notes on that map . And then they call this computer system that works perfectly , and understands everything .", + "Grad A : OK .", + "Grad C : And um {disfmarker}", + "Grad B : This is a fictional system obviously ,", + "Grad C : The comp Yeah , the computer system sits right in front of you ,", + "Grad B : huh .", + "Grad C : that 's Fey .", + "Undergrad E : I 've {disfmarker} I understand everything .", + "Professor D : And she does know everything .", + "Undergrad E : Yes I do .", + "Grad C : And she has a way of making this machine talk . So she can copy sentences into a window , or type really fast and this machine will use speech synthesis to produce that . So if you ask \" How do I get to the castle \" then a m s several seconds later it 'll come out of here \" In order to get to the castle you do {disfmarker} \"" + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "test", + "file_id": 16, + "turns": [ + 201, + 343 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "conceptual design , remote control , functions , possible advanced techniques", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "The group decided it would be a universal remote control for different devices, such as TV, VCR, or DVD player. The fact it would be for so many appliances, implied it would have a lot of buttons for all the functions. Marketing also recalled it would also be used by different users: elderlies and youngsters. They decided that this remote control should be special and not like the regular black thing with some buttons on it. Its size shouldn't be too big nor too small because it has to have a lot of functions. The idea of a foldable mobile phone shape emerged. They would keep the general functions on top and the less-used function buttons would be inside. The possibility to have a touchscreen was quickly put aside for being too expensive and also too fragile. The remote control being one of the things falling the most, it needed to be strong. Charging the device was the next big question: batteries or chargeable, with a home station or a recharger? The idea of the base allows to not lose the remote control so often, but it might be too expensive. It was decided to use to the possibility to have the option between batteries and the recharger.", + "title": "Brainstorming About the Conceptual Design of the Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 0, + 142 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "conceptual design ; remote control ; functions ; possible advanced techniques", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "The remote control needed to be something different from just a black thing with some buttons on it. It needed to be universal and usable with the TV and also the VCR and the DVD player. It had to be clear, because kids and the elderly would use it, with an infrared to be able to use it from everywhere in the room. Its shape shouldn't be too big, but something like mobile foldable phones. The idea of a touchscreen on a remote control was quickly dismissed: too expensive and too fragile. The item should give the option between the normal batteries and a home station", + "title": "Brainstorming About the Conceptual Design of the Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 0, + 142 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "conceptual design , remote control", + "speaker": "Project Manager" + }, + "summary": "The Project Manager was at first a little skeptical: remote control was usually just a black thing with some buttons on it. He was also reticent to put a touchscreen on it: too expensive and too fragile. He showed more interest in the idea of charging the device without using batteries. With a recharger or with a home station. He got very excited with the idea of providing the option between those two.", + "title": "Project Manager's Vision for the Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 20, + 33 + ], + [ + 78, + 94 + ], + [ + 106, + 141 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "conceptual design , remote control", + "speaker": "Project Manager" + }, + "summary": "At first, Project Manager was a little skeptical to start with remote control were usually just a black thing with some buttons on it. Project Manager agreed the remote control would be universal, for the appliances, the persons, and the place. It would be compatible with the TV, the VCR, and the DVD player. It should be easy to use for the elderly and kids. Furthermore, it would be powerful and reachable everywhere in the room. Project Manager was also reticent to put a touchscreen on it because it would be too expensive and too fragile. Project Manager showed more interest in the idea of charging the device without using batteries. With a recharger or with a home station, Project Manager got very excited with the idea of providing the option between those two.", + "title": "Project Manager's Vision for the Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + 20, + [ + 78, + 94 + ], + [ + 106, + 141 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "possible advanced techniques , remote control", + "speaker": "Marketing" + }, + "summary": "Marketing and the Industrial Designer disagreed with the possible idea to add a touchscreen and with the way to charge the device. Although marketing found those propositions interesting, the Industrial Manager pointed out those could be expensive techniques for remote control.", + "title": "Disagreement between Marketing and Industrial Designer", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 105, + 133 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "possible advanced techniques on the remote control", + "speaker": "Marketing" + }, + "summary": "Marketing and the Industrial Designer found two points of disagreement. First with the possible idea to add a touchscreen and secondly with the way to charge the device. Although marketing found the ideas of an incorporated touchscreen and a home base to charge the remote control interesting, the Industrial Manager pointed out they did not know what the projection costs were for such things.", + "title": "Disagreement Between Marketing and Industrial Designer", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 105, + 133 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "conceptual design , remote control", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer" + }, + "summary": "The Industrial Designer started by encouraging the new remote control to be universal and compatible with VCR and DVD players. Although he was wondering what should be used to charge the control, he also recalled they did not know what the projection costs were.", + "title": "Industrial Designer's Opinion for the Conceptual Design of the Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 13, + 23 + ], + [ + 103, + 119 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "conceptual design , remote control", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer" + }, + "summary": "The Industrial Designer said it should be universal and compatible with VCR and DVD players. He proposed to add a small touch screen on the remote control but did not persist when he understood it would be too expensive. Although he did bring the options for batteries or a recharger, he also recalled they did not know what the projection costs were.", + "title": "Industrial Designer's Opinion for the Conceptual Design of the Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 13, + 23 + ], + 74, + [ + 101, + 103 + ], + [ + 113, + 119 + ] + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "Project Manager : Okay , so uh what we know is that we have to sell this uh remote control for about twenty five Euros . Okay ,", + "Industrial Designer : Excuse me .", + "Project Manager : that's {gap} . And uh we have to make a profit of fifty million Euros , so we have to uh use a big market in Europe . The production cost are about half the price of selling price ,", + "User Interface : Piece of cake .", + "Project Manager : sorry .", + "User Interface : Uh easy .", + "Project Manager : So can someone make a a calculation about how many we have to sell of these to make fifty million , I dunno . Uh so we're gonna have {gap} a little discussion about um what experience are with a remote control the {gap} and everything , so just have a look how it {disfmarker} we think about remote controls .", + "Marketing : Yeah , my first question was does it have to be a {vocalsound} a universal remote control ?", + "Project Manager : Oh yeah , that's a good question .", + "Marketing : Because we sell it uh uh uh lonely from the t and not with the television , we sell it uh apart .", + "Project Manager : I think it's {disfmarker} I'm not I'm not sure ,", + "Marketing : So I {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : it's not mm {disfmarker} I think {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , it probably would be universal .", + "User Interface : Universal .", + "Marketing : Because {disfmarker} {gap}", + "User Interface : And only television ? Or more devices ?", + "Project Manager : I don't think you can buy a a a universal uh remote control for twenty five Euros , so {disfmarker} not sure , but {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Hmm , maybe , I don't know .", + "Marketing : Yeah , I know uh you can buy a re a universal uh control for uh only twenty uh Euros", + "Project Manager : Okay , so we we just say we just say that's universal remote control . Okay , perfect .", + "User Interface : Ah okay .", + "Marketing : Yeah , I think .", + "Industrial Designer : And uh also for the V_C_R_ and uh D_V_D_ player", + "Project Manager : Yeah , everything", + "Industrial Designer : and {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : just {disfmarker} so a lot of buttons {vocalsound} on the remote control .", + "Industrial Designer : okay . {vocalsound} Yeah , probably .", + "User Interface : Not just a T_V_ .", + "Project Manager : No , just everything .", + "User Interface : Okay .", + "Project Manager : {gap} . so yeah ,", + "Marketing : Okay .", + "Project Manager : what what what's a remote control , it's just a black thing with some buttons on it , it's not {disfmarker} nothing very special , but um {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Well we can try to make it special .", + "Project Manager : yeah , that's right .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : So do you have any ideas how it has to look for for usability or user {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Well {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Well I th I thought about um making it the same uh style as the television , {gap} {disfmarker} we don't have uh the same television uh all the time , so uh that's no matter . {vocalsound} Um if we uh control the V_C_R_ and the D_V_D_ player player with it uh it has to be clear , because uh kids and uh elderly are gonna use it , so uh it's not only for the uh technical persons . Um I think it must be a very good control , so you can uh uh uh act uh {vocalsound} use it from uh everywhere in your room , the the infrared uh thing must be from very good quality .", + "Project Manager : Hmm yeah .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : That's right . Should be a good point .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay .", + "User Interface : Nothing {gap} N", + "Industrial Designer : And how big should it be ?", + "Marketing : No . Yeah .", + "User Interface : {gap} It shouldn't be too big ,", + "Marketing : I dunno um {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : but I don't think we can make it too small , 'cause it has to have a lot of functions , so .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "User Interface : We can't make it smaller than the things we see now I think .", + "Project Manager : Just big enough for the buttons we have , that's that's it .", + "User Interface : Yeah . Or we have to make something uh like uh mobile phones that you can uh fold it opem .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah . Yeah .", + "User Interface : Maybe then you can make it s smaller and uniquer ,", + "Marketing : Yes", + "User Interface : maybe more trendy .", + "Project Manager : But you you you you think about uh uh one you can fold open .", + "User Interface : Fold open ,", + "Project Manager : Okay ,", + "User Interface : where you can see uh more options . I think {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : yeah , that's cool . Maybe for the D_V_D_ pla player or something ,", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah", + "Marketing : Ah", + "Industrial Designer : n", + "Marketing : that's that's {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : if you just {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Yeah , something uh on top , just dren general things like volume and T_V_ channels and inside things you don't use that often .", + "Marketing : Ah right right .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , or you c", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : O or you could th think of an uh uh a small touch screen on the remote control .", + "Marketing : Oh that's good , yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah b I wanted {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Why should you use a touchscreen on a remote control ?", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} Uh maybe be uh it's it's {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : There are buttons on it .", + "User Interface : No you can make an uh manual in it .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , or um maybe to keep it uh easy and uh small .", + "Project Manager : Okay . 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Whatever . {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : Kid-proof .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} Yeah {gap} .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} And uh how about the batteries ?", + "Marketing : Um {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Uh should you put it in a recharger or a {disfmarker} just {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Oh maybe that's a good idea ,", + "Marketing : Ma maybe a home station .", + "Project Manager : just to put it on your television and just s recharge ,", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : you never have to use any batteries .", + "Industrial Designer : Mm yeah .", + "User Interface : Maybe that's a good idea , but yeah , we have to look at the price now I think .", + "Project Manager : Yeah , how m how mu how how expensive uh is a normal recharger ?", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , I dunno .", + "User Interface : Well uh how much is your uh standards uh mobile phone recharger ?", + "Project Manager : I dunno .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , if you buy it uh separately from your phone it's probably expensive ,", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : Ah yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : but I don't know what the project uh projection costs are for such a thing .", + "Marketing : {gap}", + "User Interface : Maybe have {gap} uh {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Uh if you th look at the market , it's probably {disfmarker} it's still the best way just to put batteries in it , because maybe it's too expensive .", + "User Interface : Yeah , 'cause well {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Yeah , but a home station is uh a really good idea , because uh lots of people are {disfmarker} uh lose their remote control and don't know where it is ,", + "Project Manager : Yeah , that's right , yeah .", + "Marketing : and now you can put it always at the same place .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Maybe it's {disfmarker} Therefore it's a good idea , but maybe it's expensive .", + "User Interface : Maybe uh use it as a separate option . Sell it uh separately .", + "Marketing : Yeah . You can {disfmarker} yeah , you can buy it with it .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , but I have a mouse that's uh uh also uh {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Rechargeable .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , and and you just have normal batteries that you can recharge and just put it in the station ,", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : or you can change your batteries ,", + "Marketing : Oh yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : so .", + "Project Manager : The option , just the option , that's cool .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah ." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "train", + "file_id": 14, + "turns": [ + 164, + 487 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "specific details , market interests", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "According to the market survey were seventy percent of users found the remotes ugly, eighty percent would spend more money if the remote controls looked fancy. 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So seventy percent of the users , they find their remote controls very ugly , they don't find it pleasant to use in the size or usage or anything . And eighty percent of the people they are always l I mean they are willing to spend more money if the remote control would look fancy . And the current remote controls do not match well the operating behaviour of the user . And seventy five percent of the users said they zap a lot .", + "Project Manager : Yeah . {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : And fifty percent say they use only ten percent of the buttons ,", + "Project Manager : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : so the rest of the ninety percent of the buttons they're not used most of the times .", + "User Interface : Yeah . Yes .", + "Marketing : So this were the findings which we found . And also they cited frustrations with the present remote controls . Most of {disfmarker} fifty percent of the time the remote controls are lost somewhere in the room and people are always searching for them {vocalsound} rather than watching the T_V_ .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Marketing : And by the time they found the remote control the program is finished .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : So {vocalsound} they're frustrated a lot {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : And um if the remote control is too complicated it takes much time to learn the functionality of it .", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : Mm , the functionalities yeah .", + "Marketing : So you can just see the percentage , fifty percent people they responded that they always lose their remotes and thirty four percent they say that it's quite difficult to learn if it's too complex .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} Yeah .", + "Marketing : So keeping in view all these findings and the frustrations I think this should be the solution for them . We should have an L_C_D_ on the rem remote control .", + "User Interface : Oh .", + "Industrial Designer : Well mm w well I I I don't really see the advantage of having uh L_C_D_ on the on the remote control if we have a a a big screen and uh display on the screen .", + "User Interface : Big screen .", + "Industrial Designer : It's {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm ?", + "Industrial Designer : yeah of course it's fancy trendy and so on but it's it's expensive to produce {vocalsound} and it's not really {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : I mean as our survey says that people are willing to pay more if their remotes are fancy .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : So if we have a L_C_D_ on the remote , rather than looking onto the T_V_ you just look into a remote and navigate it . It's the same menu as we have saw that iPod remote control .", + "User Interface : Mm yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} Yeah yeah .", + "User Interface : Mm . The thing {vocalsound} {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : We just {vocalsound} play around", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah but when you play with the iPod you don't have {vocalsound} a big screen in front of you , s", + "Project Manager : You can use this screen instead of the big se screen ,", + "User Interface : Yeah . Yeah .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : instead of use the {disfmarker} yeah .", + "User Interface : If you re-use the existing screen , we element {disfmarker} eliminate the L_C_D_ , after all the L_C_D_ just to display", + "Project Manager : Hmm .", + "User Interface : and if you have the colourful screen you can make the display colourful , fancy , as fancy as the one on the L_C_D_ ,", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "User Interface : maybe even better .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "User Interface : So {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : I mean this were the points which we got from the market demands .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah . Yeah yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Marketing : So", + "Industrial Designer : So I th I I {vocalsound} well I think we we can focus on the uh on the fancy look on the uh", + "User Interface : Yeah . More on a fancy design .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound} Yeah that's fine .", + "Industrial Designer : on the speech recognition if the technology is available", + "Marketing : Yeah . I mean that's {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : but well I think L_C_D_ will uh will uh make us spend a lot of money for not so big results .", + "User Interface : Mm . Remember we have a s budget for the cost of producing the remote controller .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Project Manager : But {disfmarker} Yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah . So i is {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Uh yeah we have uh {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : {gap}", + "User Interface : so the thing is you can find out how much an L_C_D_ will cost and then we'll decide again . {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound} I mean that should be found out by the Industrial Designers . {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Uh maybe you can find out the price and tell us next time {gap} . Is i if i", + "Industrial Designer : So price of uh L_C_D_ display .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : And {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : And it's always good to have an voice recognition for the remote controls .", + "User Interface : Yeah . And also the cost for the speech recognition .", + "Project Manager : Mm . It's for {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Ask our R_ and D_ department .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : it's just for small vocabulary . We {disfmarker} it's not {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Yeah it's o only for a limited vocabulary ,", + "Project Manager : yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah . And ho", + "Marketing : say eighty commands or so .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah okay .", + "User Interface : And also the scroller button , how much will it cost . {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : And {disfmarker} Well uh compared to the to s the simpl simpler simplest button .", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} Yeah . Push push {gap} .", + "Marketing : Mm , the scroll button , {gap} from the survey we never see that people would like to have some scrolling button .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah . Yeah I think that {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Because they they just they're just frightened to use the scrollings or {vocalsound} help button .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah I I I think that uh well uh as we have seen in the in the presentation uh well uh about uh uh fifty percent of the of the percent n choose the button", + "User Interface : Don't use the buttons .", + "Industrial Designer : so uh I think to have uh five uh simple button is sufficient for our functionality .", + "User Interface : Yeah . Yeah . Yeah . Yeah .", + "Project Manager : It doesn't mean that the other buttons are not necessary or important .", + "Marketing : Yeah . {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Important .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah . But {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : But they are just less used compar", + "Marketing : They're not used much .", + "Project Manager : yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : But the uh the thing is is i is that we can add a functionality on the on the T_V_ screen", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : like uh a a list of function", + "User Interface : Yeah . Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : and then you choose with the with the button to {disfmarker} well you navigate", + "User Interface : Yeah , yeah . So so the at most {disfmarker} more power uh .", + "Industrial Designer : and you {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Or maybe we can u uh or maybe we can uh make this the ten percent of button more bigger than the others .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : So .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : But if i i if we if we could have a a a display uh g a user interface that is very complete on the T_V_ screen {vocalsound} I think that just five buttons are sufficient ,", + "User Interface : Yep .", + "Industrial Designer : one to go up left right down and uh enter", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : and you you you just select the functionality you want to access or things like that .", + "User Interface : Mm . Mm . Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : You don't have to to switch to a channel to another uh {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Mm .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Or it could be like this , as the people say , if they have a L_C_D_ on the remote not on the television . Because when you have the L_C_D_ onto the television screen you miss the picture in the background , we are most focused on the commands .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah but {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : So if you have then L_C_D_ in the remote , you just have a menu , and increasing and lower these signs here to change the programs and this menu when you press the menu , in the L_C_D_ displays as you go on pressing the menu it faster displays volume , then the program , then the brightness , contrast and all the stuff .", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} {gap} Yeah but if you look at the L_C_D_ you you don't look at the T_V_ screen", + "Marketing : And accordingly you can just increase or decrease .", + "Project Manager : It's {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Mm . Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : so {vocalsound} i i it's not really worth to get {disfmarker} to have the image if you don't look at , so .", + "User Interface : I if {disfmarker} Mm . Mm .", + "Project Manager : And I think it's increases the cost of the the remote control if you use L_C_D_ . I {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Yeah that has to be checked out .", + "User Interface : I think that there's no contradiction here , because if there are few buttons , you don't have to look at your your controller any more because you know where the buttons are , so if you wanna control the screen d sh sharpness you just say sharpness", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "User Interface : and then you t turn {disfmarker} you just press lef increase or decrease button", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : and the same for the volume and the channel , {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "User Interface : if you had the speech recognition there you just shout your channel , just tell your channel and then you don't even have to look at the butto at the controller so finally that wil eliminates the the need for L_C_D_ ,", + "Marketing : Okay .", + "User Interface : with the help of speech recogniser you can {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : I mean , {gap} better if we could just check all the cost with L_C_D_", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Marketing : and also with the speech recognition .", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : And then we could find which would would be a more suitable in this case .", + "User Interface : Mm . Mm . {vocalsound} Yeah . A and {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : And the third problem was to find the remote control . Always , so fifty percent of the people say they lose the remotes .", + "Industrial Designer : Well so we we can think about a well a a vocal command like uh find", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : and {vocalsound} when the remote control uh hears fine well yeah just uh to make him beep or t", + "Project Manager : You will listen to a peep , {vocalsound} special peep .", + "User Interface : Where {gap} , yeah .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound} Yeah that's right , that's exactly what I mean by voice commander .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Or it could be also something like this ,", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Marketing : uh it's always boring to change the batteries of the remotes control ,", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : so we have some one charger there and whenever we don't use the remote control we put it in the charger .", + "User Interface : Put it back at the charge .", + "Industrial Designer : Put {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Marketing : And when we're using that t remote and if we misplace somewhere , in the charger we have a small button , and just by pressing the button in the charger the uh remote control beeps , wherever it is .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah . And that's a good idea , that's simple , like in phones .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Marketing : I mean it doe it also doesn't require a voice command ,", + "Project Manager : But you don't you don't have to move the the charger .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : because there are problems with a voice command .", + "User Interface : Hmm . Mm . {vocalsound} Th yeah . Mm yeah . Yeah . Mm .", + "Marketing : Yeah , yeah , yeah .", + "Project Manager : You have to keep it {gap} .", + "Marketing : I mean charger would be fixed", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : because it's always with electricity plugged .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah if there if there uh there is nuff not enough battery . Also and uh uh the remote is lost .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "User Interface : Mm . There's {disfmarker} mm . Mm .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Yeah that's right .", + "User Interface : That {disfmarker} we can {disfmarker} what we can do is we can program a function whereby when you press the switch off T_V_ button , the off button , the remote there be s uh instruction on the screen , please charge charge me . You never get it lost", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "User Interface : because uh every time you're off the computer {vocalsound} {disfmarker} the T_V_ you are asked the the command the T_V_ com remote controller would tell you to put it back to where {disfmarker} to the charger .", + "Marketing : It's an good reminder ,", + "User Interface : Yeah . So you will never get lost {gap} {disfmarker} yeah .", + "Marketing : yeah that's right .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay .", + "Project Manager : Maybe for some people {gap} {vocalsound} lazy people .", + "User Interface : Yeah . Yeah because everything is programmed inside .", + "Project Manager : Yeah yeah .", + "User Interface : So it's it's uh it's all about strategy , y", + "Marketing : And of course the final point is a fancy look .", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Marketing : As we have seen earlier the remotes which were displayed by Norman they weren't fancy ,", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : They were ugly .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} Yeah , yeah .", + "Marketing : I mean mm very big or something with lot of buttons .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} They {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Mm .", + "Marketing : I think we should have something {disfmarker} it {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Well the last one with the um {vocalsound} yeah with the two parts was uh {gap} original , so {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : With uh two two two parts controller .", + "Marketing : I mean {gap} uh I mean uh I mean uh you see if it's like that even a kid who wants to have a control he could just plug it and {vocalsound} use it , you can't avoid him .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} Yeah .", + "Marketing : But you can have an button for child lock .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Marketing : So just by pressing the button with some code , you t you put a lock onto the remote , so that he can't use even {gap} {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Mm . Mm . Mm . Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : Well we can think about uh having uh on the on the on the user interface when you switch on the T_V_ you can uh well write a code or choose a category , if it is kids , uh things like that .", + "Marketing : Mm uh {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Project Manager : Or {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Mm . Yeah . Mm .", + "Marketing : That's right .", + "Project Manager : Or maybe you have to to show some specific programmes for kids and then just just {disfmarker} yeah just push uh kids button so it's automatically", + "User Interface : Mm . {gap} these are probl yeah . Mm . Mm . Mm .", + "Project Manager : {gap} . So if he {gap} .", + "Marketing : I think these other four points they're the market demands and so it's for the user interface design and industrial design to just think {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : So for mm {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : yeah . So for my part I will check the prices the um the prices difference uh of what to use , where to use , and s uh and so on .", + "Marketing : Yeah I think it should be clearer for us in the next meeting that th uh these {gap} could be included .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Mm . {vocalsound} I think we need to define also a s the set of vocabularies for the speech recogniser", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "User Interface : because uh if you want {gap} uh say we can sort by channels or sort by T_V_ programs , you have to decide a category of vocabularies for them . If numbers , they're easy ,", + "Project Manager : Mm-hmm .", + "User Interface : but if {gap} name the channel by by name {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Well I think we can we can have just numbers for channels and you can say to your remote control like uh sports and then on the T_V_ you have a list with with uh uh well with sports program playing now", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : and and uh {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : No , we have a problem there . You see uh if you have a voice commands and you are s you are watching a score on uh {disfmarker} basketball score or something , and if the score comes twenty four thirty five , you've just say twenty five", + "Project Manager : Yeah it's {disfmarker} yeah .", + "Marketing : and suddenly {vocalsound} the screen the channel goes to twenty five .", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : That's right , yeah , yeah .", + "Marketing : So I think there should be a prefix to some numbers {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Well but well e every possible word uh has a probability to come about of the T_V_ so . {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Marketing : I mean the the {disfmarker} you just check all the probability that saying T_V_ twenty five and just ordinary twenty five .", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah yeah .", + "Marketing : Ordinary twenty five you almost there's a probability of being said around sixty seventy percent", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah but well {disfmarker} okay .", + "Marketing : and T_V_ twenty five I dunno it will be round about one or two percent .", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Project Manager : Mm-hmm .", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Marketing : So it's better to have some prefix {gap} before the number .", + "User Interface : But I I I think that the user would like wou would like to associate the channel or call the channel rather than than the numbers .", + "Marketing : Yeah something , some code .", + "User Interface : You say numbe channel number five of the T_V_ correspond to something else in the channel .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah yeah .", + "User Interface : So some people may want to say , I want to see this channel .", + "Industrial Designer : Mm mm . Well I {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : That will be too big .", + "Project Manager : Or just {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : And it will be difficult for the vocabulary also .", + "User Interface : Yeah . Check with the v R_ and D_ department the capability of recogniser .", + "Project Manager : It's difficult to to just say the the name of the channel . It will be difficult to say just the name of the channel .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} Uh ?", + "Project Manager : Because you have to s t uh a ch", + "User Interface : Well , it's convenient for the user .", + "Project Manager : yeah but you have to to have all the name of the channel in your vocabulary .", + "Marketing : Als might be you just forgot the channel name , you kno only know the number .", + "Project Manager : Or maybe {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Then {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Or maybe the user can create his own vocabulary ,", + "User Interface : The {disfmarker} uh uh mm . {vocalsound} Mm .", + "Project Manager : just pronouncing the the name of channels and include in the vocabulary .", + "User Interface : I I think that I have {disfmarker} mm mm {vocalsound} I think there's another way you can do is that uh you can uh {vocalsound} if {disfmarker} when the user ch press a button to choose the channel for example , then what you can do is that the {disfmarker} you can make the T_V_ screen to split them into small little little squares of images where you you you have a snapshot of every channel , so let's say it's a four by four matrix of the images , so now what you do is f looking at the all the sixteen channels available at one time , you just use the control button uh , you just you you just choose the the option you want", + "Marketing : Yeah , the {gap} .", + "User Interface : and then you just hit the button and then you go to that channel . So {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Or lets the user create his own vocabulary of channel .", + "User Interface : Mm . So you you don't use the speech recogniser in that way .", + "Project Manager : No . Just you have uh in the beginning you have uh t you have to train {disfmarker} you have to create the vocabulary by yourself .", + "User Interface : Oh , okay . Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Well I uh I also {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : By associating each channel with the name or {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : I I also think about uh another problem , if if there is uh more than one person who is watching T_V_ {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : And for each one has his own . {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : the s well the the speech uh r recogniser should be able to distinguish between the two .", + "Marketing : Yeah yeah , {gap} .", + "Industrial Designer : Because uh I remember when I was a {vocalsound} young child with my sister we {disfmarker} yeah we always want to w to watch different emission at the at the same time", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Project Manager : Or you have to s {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Yeah , I wanna watch this , I wanna watch that .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : so it's a pr it could be a problem if uh if well if someone passes by when you are watching T_V_ and say oh T_V_ thirty {vocalsound} and just run , s", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Marketing : A and in the same lines we would have a {disfmarker} one more problem . If we are using the television in the different environments , say in the factories or in the shops where there is a lot of noise and this voice commands if they fail to work , that would bring a bad name {disfmarker} bad uh reputation for our company .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , yeah .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Project Manager : Mm .", + "Marketing : So I think we should specify some pre-requirements if we want to use a voice commands , say that it should be used in an silent homely environment or s something .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Or we can switch on or switch off the the special {gap} , yeah .", + "Marketing : Yeah that's right that should be an option .", + "User Interface : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah that's {disfmarker} well I think that's a good uh a good option because it's simple and uh simple to implement also , so .", + "User Interface : Hmm .", + "Marketing : I think these are the practical problems . 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C_A_T_H_ E_R_ I_N_E_ .", + "Project Manager : Okay , and", + "User Interface : Uh Gabriel .", + "Project Manager : Gabriel . E_L_ is it ?", + "User Interface : E_L_ .", + "Project Manager : 'Kay . And you're s r R_E_I_S_S_ {vocalsound} {gap}", + "Marketing : I am Reissa . R_E_I_S_S_A_ . Double S_ A_ , yeah {vocalsound} yeah . Sorry .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : 'S just a bit nicer calling people by their names I think .", + "Industrial Designer : Right .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : True .", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} Uh , right .", + "Marketing : Mm 'kay .", + "Project Manager : Okay , right , welcome to meeting B_ . Um this is gonna go a lot better than the last meeting , basically ,", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : uh 'cause I know what I'm supposed to be doing now .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} I am your Project Manager , and , uh yeah , I'm just here to", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : {gap} sort of liaise between the three of you and get things going , get people talking and and I'm gonna be making notes and sending them off to the powers that be and stuff basically . Um right , this {disfmarker} for the purposes of this meeting {disfmarker} what this meeting is all about is um I'm gonna have some presentations from all three of you , what you've been working on for the last wee while , when you haven't been getting hit with spam on your computers and and , you know , filling out silly questionnaires and things .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : But hopefully you've been {disfmarker} actually been doing something productive . So we're gonna {disfmarker} each of you gonna give us a litt a little presentation . {vocalsound} Um .", + "Marketing : Mm .", + "Project Manager : Then we're gonna {vocalsound} work , you know , from each of your presentations . We'll we'll uh talk about what we actually need as a final coming together of it all . Um and then we'll , yeah , we'll {gap} sort of conclude {gap} anything else comes up at the end of it .", + "Industrial Designer : How long is the meeting ?", + "Project Manager : This meeting it's not very long . It's uh probably down to about thirty five minutes now . So I want each of your presentations to not be too long , five five minutes , something like that .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay . {vocalsound} No problem . {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Um if you haven't done a PowerPoint thingy , it doesn't matter , it it just it just says that you {disfmarker} it's {disfmarker} that's just one particular medium . If you haven't had time to prepare one , you can draw stuff on the noteboard , you can talk to us , you can {disfmarker} you know however you want to do your little presentation , basically , you can . Don't feel pressurised into using this thing . 'Cause I don't .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} Uh okay . So um . You okay over there ? Reissa ,", + "Marketing : I'm fine . Yeah .", + "Project Manager : are you uh b are you joining in with this meeting here", + "Marketing : I uh yeah , yeah .", + "Project Manager : or are y or are y or are you are you just are you just uh doing some Internet shopping there ? {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Think she's finishing up her presentation .", + "Marketing : D I mean , I I'm finishing off my presentation .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : No no . {vocalsound} Uh I'm done . Okay .", + "Project Manager : Okay , jolly good . Alright , let's have um {disfmarker} well , we all know that it's it's a remote control that we're gonna be dealing with .", + "Marketing : Mm ." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "train", + "file_id": 45, + "turns": [ + 49, + 136 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "class", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Grad D looked at the PRM stuff. This was sort of like the latest thing that was on it and sorta constructed a couple of classes. Likened it to a different type of class. Tried to simplify it down a little bit.Took out a lot of stuff, a lot of the decision nodes. Explained what the red lines on the graph were, relations between the different classes. Ended up making several cases, a class with different attributes that were intermediate nodes, and one of them was like time, money affordability, site availability, and the travel compatibility", + "title": "Construction of Classes", + "relevant_turns": [ + 9 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "class", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Grad D said had looked at the PRM stuff. Constructed a couple of classes. Like a user class, a site class, and talked of knowing a time, a route, and a query class. Spoke of the red lines on the graph which were relations between different classes. Gave a similarity to the flat Bayes-net they had with the input nodes and all that. Tried constructing the dependency models.", + "title": "Types of Classes", + "relevant_turns": [ + 9 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "travel compatibility", + "speaker": "Grad D" + }, + "summary": "Grad D spoke of knowing a class of different attributes that were intermediate nodes and said one of them was time affordability, money affordability, site availability, and travel compatibility. Added that some of the classes were attributes that only depended on stuff from, the user or the site. Said if one looked at travel compatibility for each of the factors. Said that for each of the sites one would come up with this rating, of travel compatibility. Talked about having fewer nodes than in a flat Bayes-net.", + "title": "Different Attributes for Intermediate Nodes", + "relevant_turns": [ + 9 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "travel compatibility", + "speaker": "Grad D" + }, + "summary": "Grad D talked of a class with different attributes that were the intermediate nodes and gave examples. Explained it was only like a user, but if one looked at travel compatibility for each of the factors, one needed to look at what the preference of the user was versus and the form of transportation the user had and type of an event it was and the form of transportation the user had.", + "title": "Relationship of Travel Compatibility and Form of Transportation", + "relevant_turns": [ + 9 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "structural uncertainty", + "speaker": "Grad B , Grad D , Professor F" + }, + "summary": "Grad D asked about structural uncertainty and remembered them learning when didn't know the structure for sure. Professor F shared thoughts of previous Ubenth stuff. Grad B said it was in Daphne's definition.", + "title": "Definition of Structural Uncertainty", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 38, + 49 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "structural uncertainty", + "speaker": "Grad B , Grad D , Professor F" + }, + "summary": "Grad D asked which was the structural uncertainty. Professor F did not remember whether they carried that over to this or not. Grad B said the definition was in Daphne's definition of a PRM.", + "title": "Definition of Structural Uncertainty", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 38, + 49 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "relations", + "speaker": "Grad B" + }, + "summary": "Grad B spoke of what the Stanford people talked about and kept the probabilities also on the relations. Talked of the definition being in Daphne's definition of a PRM. Spoke about having CPTs over the classes and their relations.", + "title": "Daphne's Definition of a PRM", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 37, + 47 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "relations", + "speaker": "Grad B" + }, + "summary": "Grad B; in Daphne's definition of a PRM is that classes and relations.", + "title": "Daphne's Definition of a PRM", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 37, + 47 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "people", + "speaker": "Professor F" + }, + "summary": "Professor F spoke about the people at Stanford writing papers as if they had done, also said that it was a major open issue. Professor F thought it was cleaner and the ability to instantiate, instances of people and sites and stuff would help in the expression. Professor F also talked about a similar kind of information and thought there were things that could be expressed in a way which could not be expressed in a normal belief-net, without going to some incredible hacking of, sort of rebuilding it on the fly. Professor F spoke of the notion of instantiating elements from the ontology and stuff that fit nicely and did not fit very well into the extended belief net.", + "title": "Expression in a Normal Belief-net", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 20, + 22 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "people", + "speaker": "Professor F" + }, + "summary": "Professor F said they were not going to build their own interpreter, so if they could not find one, then they would go off and do something else and wait until one appeared. Professor F talked about the thoughts of people at Stanford and their written papers about the problem, giving an example of Robert, and how it looked like Eva came up with a value for each of a number of sites plus the EVA thing.", + "title": "Building Own Interpreter", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 20, + 22 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "classes", + "speaker": "Grad D" + }, + "summary": "Grad D talked of the latest thing and had constructed a couple of classes, giving an example of the classes. Grad D talked about it taking out a lot of stuff, a lot of decision nodes, and explained the graph. Gave an example of a user having a query and then reference slots to its preferences, the special needs, money, and the user interest, and termed it as being similar to the flat Bayes-net, with input nodes and all that. Grad D tried constructing the dependency models, and a lot of this stuff was from the flat Bayes-et, and what it depended on, turned out the CPTs were really big and kept computational nodes in between", + "title": "Construction of Classes by Grad D", + "relevant_turns": [ + 9 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "classes", + "speaker": "Grad D" + }, + "summary": "Grad D spoke about the PRM stuff and constructed a couple of classes, such as a user class, a site class and a time, a route, and then a query class. Then, Grad D spoke of having tried to see how to put in the computational nodes in between, and described what it would look like in a PRM, ended up taking several classes. Finally, Grad D added about knowing a class with different attributes and gave an example of one of the intermediate nodes.", + "title": "Construction of Classes by Grad D", + "relevant_turns": [ + 9 + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "Grad A : Hmm .", + "Grad C : so , to avoid some confusion .", + "Grad B : That will be {pause} Reuter ? Oh , OK .", + "Grad C : Yeah .", + "Grad B : So my scientific director of the EML is also the dean of the International University , one of his many occupations that just contributes to the fact that he is very occupied . And , um , the {disfmarker} um , he @ @ might tell us a little bit about what he 's actually doing , and why it is s somewhat related , and {disfmarker} by uh using maybe some of the same technologies that we are using . And um . Was that enough of an update ?", + "Professor F : I think so .", + "Grad B : In what order shall we proceed ?", + "Grad D : OK .", + "Grad B : Maybe you have your on - line {disfmarker}", + "Grad D : Uh , yeah , sure . Um , so , I 've be just been looking at , um , Ack ! What are you doing ? Yeah . OK . Um , I 've been looking at the PRM stuff . Um , so , this is , sort of like the latest thing I have on it , and I sorta constructed a couple of classes . Like , a user class , a site class , and {disfmarker} and you know , a time , a route , and then {disfmarker} and a query class . And I tried to simplify it down a little bit , so that I can actually um , look at it more . It 's the same paper that I gave to Jerry last time . Um , so basically I took out a lot of stuff , a lot of the decision nodes , and then tried to {disfmarker} The red lines on the , um , graph are the um , relations between the different um , classes . Like , a user has like , a query , and then , also has , you know um , reference slots to its preferences , um , the special needs and , you know , money , and the user interest . And so this is more or less similar to the flat Bayes - net that I have , you know , with the input nodes and all that . And {disfmarker} So I tried to construct the dependency models , and a lot of these stuff I got from the flat Bayes - net , and what they depend on , and it turns out , you know , the CPT 's are really big , if I do that , so I tried to see how I can do , um {disfmarker} put in the computational nodes in between . And what that would look like in a PRM . And so I ended up making several classes {disfmarker} Actually , you know , a class of {disfmarker} with different attributes that are the intermediate nodes , and one of them is like , time affordability money affordability , site availability , and the travel compatibility . And so some of these classes are {disfmarker} s some of these attributes only depend on stuff from , say , the user , or s f just from , I don't know , like the site . S like , um , these here , it 's only like , user , but , if you look at travel compatibility for each of these factors , you need to look at a pair of , you know , what the um , preference of the user is versus , you know , what type of an event it is , or you know , which form of transportation the user has and whether , you know , the onsite parking matters to the user , in that case . And that makes the scenario a little different in a PRM , because , um , then you have one - user objects and potentially you can have many different sites in {disfmarker} in mind . And so for each of the site you 'll come up with this rating , of travel compatibility . And , they all depend on the same users , but different sites , and that makes a {disfmarker} I 'm tr I w I wa have been trying to see whether the PRM would make it more efficient if we do inferencing like that . And so , I guess you end up having fewer number of nodes than in a flat Bayes - net , cuz otherwise you would {disfmarker} c well , it 's probably the same . But um , No , you would definitely have {disfmarker} be able to re - use , like , {vocalsound} um , all the user stuff , and not {disfmarker} not having to recompute a lot of the stuff , because it 's all from the user side . So if you changed sites , you {disfmarker} you can , you know , save some work on that . But , you know , in the case where , it depends on both the user and the site , then I 'm still having a hard time trying to see how um , using the PRM will help . Um , so anyhow , using those intermediate nodes then , this {disfmarker} this would be the class that represent the intermediate nodes . And that would {disfmarker} basically it 's just another class in the model , with , you know , references to the user and the site and the time . And then , after you group them together this {disfmarker} no the dependencies would {disfmarker} of the queries would be reduced to this . And so , you know , it 's easier to specify the CPT and all . Um , so I think that 's about as far as I 've gone on the PRM stuff .", + "Professor F : Well", + "Grad D : Right .", + "Professor F : No . So y you didn't yet tell us what the output is .", + "Grad D : The output .", + "Professor F : So what decisions does this make ?", + "Grad D : OK . So it only makes two decisions , in this model . And one is basically how desirable a site is meaning , um , how good it matches the needs of a user . And the other is the mode of the visit , whether th It 's the EVA decision . Um , so , instead of um , {vocalsound} doing a lot of , you know , computation about , you know , which one site it wants of {disfmarker} the user wants to visit , I 'll come {disfmarker} well , try to come up with like , sort of a list of sites . And for each site , you know , where {disfmarker} h how {disfmarker} how well it fits , and basically a rating of how well it fits and what to do with it . So . Anything else I missed ?", + "Professor F : So that was pretty quick . She 's ac uh uh Eva 's got a little write - up on it that uh , probably gives the {disfmarker} the details to anybody who needs them . Um , so the {disfmarker} You {disfmarker} you didn't look at all yet to see if there 's anybody has a implementation .", + "Grad D : No , not yet , um {disfmarker}", + "Professor F : OK . So one {disfmarker} so one of the questions , you know , about these P R Ms is", + "Grad D : Mm - hmm .", + "Professor F : uh , we aren't gonna build our own interpreter , so if {disfmarker} if we can't find one , then we uh , go off and do something else and wait until s one appears . Uh , so one of the things that Eva 's gonna do over the next few weeks is see if we can track that down . Uh , the people at Stanford write papers as if they had one , but , um , we 'll see . So w Anyway . So that 's a {disfmarker} a major open issue . If there is an interpreter , it looks like you know , what Eva 's got should run and we should be able to actually um , try to solve , you know , the problems , to actually take the data , and do it . Uh , and we 'll see . Uh , I actually think it is cleaner , and the ability to instantiate , you know , instance of people and sites and stuff , um , will help in the expression . Whether the inference gets any faster or not I don't know . Uh , it wouldn't surprise me if it {disfmarker} if it doesn't .", + "Grad D : Mm - hmm .", + "Professor F : You know , it 's the same kind of information . I think there are things that you can express this way which you can't express in a normal belief - net , uh , without going to some incredible hacking of {disfmarker} sort of rebuilding it on the fly . I mean , the notion of instantiating your el elements from the ontology and stuff fits this very nicely and doesn't fit very well into the extended belief - net . So that was one of the main reasons for doing it . Um . I don't know . So , uh , people who have thought about the problem , like Robert i it looked to me like if {comment} Eva were able to come up with a {vocalsound} you know , value for each of a number of uh , sites plus its EVA thing , that a travel planner should be able to take it from there . And {disfmarker} you know , with some other information about how much time the person has and whatever , and then plan a route .", + "Grad B : Um - hmm , um , {vocalsound} well , first of all uh , uh , great looks , mu much cleaner , nnn , nnn , Certain {disfmarker} certain beauty in it , so , um , if beauty is truth , then , uh we 're in good shape . But , the um , as , uh , mentioned before we probably should look at t the details . So if you have a write - up then uh , I 'd love to read it", + "Grad D : Mm - hmm .", + "Grad B : and uh {disfmarker} because , um , i Can you go all the way back to the {disfmarker} the very top ?", + "Grad D : Yeah .", + "Grad B : Um , {vocalsound} uh these {disfmarker} @ @ {comment} these {disfmarker} w w when these are instantiated they take on the same values ? that we had before ?", + "Grad D : I can't really see the whole thing .", + "Grad B : or are they {disfmarker} have they changed , in a sense ?", + "Grad D : Well I think I basically leave them to similar things .", + "Grad B : Uh - huh .", + "Grad D : Some of the things might {disfmarker} that might be different , maybe like {disfmarker} are that the hours for the site .", + "Grad B : Hmm .", + "Grad D : And , eventually I meant that to mean whether they 're open at this hour or not .", + "Grad B : Uh - huh .", + "Grad D : And status would be , you know , more or less like , whether they 're under construction , and {disfmarker} and {disfmarker} or stuff like that .", + "Grad B : And the , uh , other question I would have is that presumably , from the way the Stanford people talk about it , you can put the probabilities also on the relations . If {disfmarker}", + "Grad D : Which is the structural uncertainty ?", + "Professor F : Yeah . Yeah , I {disfmarker} that 's {disfmarker} That I think was actually in the previous {disfmarker} the Ubenth stuff . I don't remember whether they carried that over to this or not ,", + "Grad A : Mmm .", + "Professor F : uh , structural uncertainty .", + "Grad B : It 's sort of in the definition or {disfmarker} in the {disfmarker} in Daphne 's definition of a PRM is that classes and relations ,", + "Professor F : OK .", + "Grad B : and you 're gonna have CPT 's over the classes and their relations .", + "Professor F : Alright .", + "Grad B : More uncertainty , or {disfmarker} or {disfmarker}", + "Professor F : Uh ,", + "Grad B : I should say .", + "Grad D : I remember them learning when , you know , you don't know the structure for sure ,", + "Professor F : Yeah .", + "Grad D : but I don't remember reading how you specify", + "Grad B : Yeah , that would be exactly my question .", + "Professor F : Right .", + "Grad D : wh to start with . Yeah .", + "Grad B : Well {disfmarker}", + "Grad D : Yeah .", + "Professor F : Yeah . So , uh , the {disfmarker} the plan is {disfmarker} is when Daphne gets back , we 'll get in touch and supposedly , um , we 'll actually get s deep {disfmarker} seriously connected to {disfmarker} to their work and", + "Grad B : Yep .", + "Professor F : somebody 'll {disfmarker} Uh , you know {disfmarker} If it 's a group meeting once a week probably someone 'll go down and , whatever . So , we 'll actually figure all this out .", + "Grad B : OK . OK . Then I think the w {vocalsound} long term perspective is {disfmarker} is pretty clear . We get rocking and rolling on this again , once we get a package , if , when , and how , then this becomes foregrounded", + "Grad D : Mm - hmm .", + "Grad B : profiled , focused , again .", + "Grad E : Designated ?", + "Grad A : Of course .", + "Grad B : And um , until then we 'll come up with a something that 's {disfmarker} @ @ {comment} that 's way more complicated for you . Right ?", + "Grad D : OK .", + "Grad B : Because this was laughingly easy , right ?", + "Grad D : Actually I had to take out a lot of the complicated stuff , cuz I {disfmarker} I made it really complicated in the beginning , and Jerry was like , {vocalsound} \" this is just too much \" .", + "Professor F : Yeah . So , um , you could , from this , go on and say suppose there 's a group of people traveling together and you wanted to plan something that somehow , with some Pareto optimal uh , {vocalsound} uh , thing for {disfmarker}", + "Grad A : That 's good . That 's definitely a job for artificial intelligence .", + "Professor F : uh , or {disfmarker}", + "Grad A : Except for humans can't really solve it either , so .", + "Grad B : Well that 's not {disfmarker} not even something humans {disfmarker} yeah .", + "Professor F : Right . Right . Well that 's the {disfmarker} that would {disfmarker} that would be a {disfmarker} uh , you could sell it , as a {disfmarker}", + "Grad A : Yeah .", + "Professor F : OK , eh you don't have to fight about this , just give your preferences to the {disfmarker}", + "Grad A : And then you can blame the computer .", + "Professor F : w Exactly .", + "Grad A : So .", + "Grad B : Hmm . But what does it {disfmarker} uh {disfmarker} Would a pote potential result be to {disfmarker} to split up and never talk to each other again ? You know .", + "Grad A : That should be one of them .", + "Grad B : Yeah .", + "Professor F : Yeah . Right .", + "Grad E : That 'd be nice .", + "Grad A : Mmm .", + "Professor F : Anyway . So . So there i there are some {disfmarker} some u uh , you know , uh , elaborations of this that you could try to put in to this structure , but I don't think it 's worth it now . Because we 're gonna see what {disfmarker} what else uh {disfmarker} what else we 're gonna do . Anyway . But uh , it 's good , yeah and {disfmarker} and there were a couple other ideas of {disfmarker} of uh , things for Eva to look at in {disfmarker} in the interim .", + "Grad B : Good . Then , we can move on and see what Andreas has got out his sleeve . Or Andy , for that matter ?" + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "train", + "file_id": 32, + "turns": [ + 52, + 136 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "options menu", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer" + }, + "summary": "Industrial Designer reported having some ideas on how the options menu would work, using the scroll button on the sides. Industrial Designer also said that it was nice that the options menu was available when pressing the scroll button and allowed the use of the teletext, which should still be used. Industrial Designer said it was very clear that the teletext and options menu weren't taking much part of the screen and could be seen at the top so, it wouldn't be so irritating to see. Industrial Designer added that people regularly read from the left to right down.", + "title": "Discussion on the Options Menu", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 27, + 39 + ], + [ + 60, + 62 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "options menu", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer" + }, + "summary": "Industrial Designer said they had some ideas about how the options menu would work, pushing the scroll button on the sides and a drop-down menu or pull-out menu would come out. Industrial Designer also said that it was nice that the options menu was available when pressing the scroll button and allowed the use of the teletext, which should still be used.", + "title": "Discussion on the Options Menu", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 27, + 39 + ], + [ + 60, + 62 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "button", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer , User Interface" + }, + "summary": "User Interface said there was a fresh colour for the prototype, the screen was light blue with a scroll button, and a microphone on the sides. User Interface also added that the R and R logo had also changed. Industrial Designer said the microphone could be a minor hole on the left of the button. Industrial Designer reported ideas on how the options menu would work, using the scroll button on the sides would reveal a menu with options like for example TV settings and remote settings. Industrial Designer commented that it was nice that the options menu was available when pressing the scroll button. Industrial Designer also said it was very clear that the teletext and options menu weren't taking much part of the screen and could be seen at the top. User Interface said they put an extra button in to switch between channels (numbers button).", + "title": "Different Buttons for the Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + 6, + [ + 23, + 55 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "button", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer , User Interface" + }, + "summary": "User Interface, the scroll button, on the sides, under. Industrial Designer, microphone could be just a minor, hole, on the left, button; using the scroll button on sides. User Interface, push the scroll button. Industrial Designer, scroll down too with the scroll, button, the menu comes out; the options menu, becoming available when pressing, scroll, button, to use the teletext. User Interface, put an extra button, erase it, the button, switch channels, go back, with that button. Industrial Designer, previous page, indeed. User Interface, thought it would be handy, the one number or two numbers button, below that, the page and the sound, in the middle, the mute.", + "title": "Different Buttons for the Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + 6, + [ + 23, + 55 + ] + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "User Interface : We first start with the overall uh {disfmarker} This is about the total remote control .", + "Industrial Designer : View .", + "User Interface : We made it green .", + "Industrial Designer : Just example colour ,", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : so uh there's one of the colours we would like to uh see in our prototype .", + "User Interface : It's a fresh colour . And uh the screen light blue . Oh uh this the scroll button and the microphone on the on the sides here under . And the R_ and R_ logo , it just says R_ and R_ now , but uh {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Okay ?", + "User Interface : Any questions so far ? {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : Big microphone .", + "Industrial Designer : {gap} yeah ,", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : just uh just an idea about how to m th that could also be possible .", + "Marketing : Oh okay . That's the place where it's going to be , not the size . {gap}", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Uh well , it's an idea in a {disfmarker} so .", + "User Interface : Oh y you {disfmarker} perhaps you should make it a bit big , so people know it's there and uh {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Do not forget it .", + "User Interface : Uh {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : To function it it doesn't really have to be sm uh big of course .", + "User Interface : Hmm .", + "Marketing : Yeah , okay . Of course .", + "Industrial Designer : The microphone could be just a minor uh hole uh on the left uh button .", + "Marketing : Mm . Mm , th yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay um", + "Marketing : Small .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} we also made some uh ideas about how uh the options menu would work . Uh using the scroll button on sides uh y uh I uh um {gap} {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : You push the scroll button", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , you push the scroll button", + "User Interface : and it's claps out if there's a {disfmarker} {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : and a drop down menu or a pull out menu comes out and uh you get uh you get the options uh becoming available . For example uh T_V_ settings , uh remote settings , et cetera .", + "User Interface : Remote settings , et cetera . Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : So uh you can scroll down too with the scroll uh button , uh as you can see {disfmarker} oh , it's here , just push it in , uh the menu comes out like this and uh i it all becomes visible . Um {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Yeah . And you could also touch it so that it comes out ,", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , that's c", + "User Interface : and and use the the the scroll thing as a {disfmarker} with your fingers .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah . Indeed .", + "User Interface : Yes .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay , um it's also uh nice to see that um we made a small uh menu , uh the options menu uh becoming available when pressing the uh scroll uh button , and the opportunity to use the teletext , whi which is used uh {disfmarker} which should still be used and we think that it's uh very handy to put it uh not uh under the options menu , but in uh {disfmarker} Yes . In an apart uh {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : So a separate button for for text ,", + "Industrial Designer : In a separate button , yeah . {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : okay .", + "User Interface : Perhaps we should use the teletext sign in p yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : A sign , yeah , just like {disfmarker} Okay , indeed .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay ,", + "User Interface : Forgot . {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : we can uh modify that later . Okay . Would you like to make any comments about next uh {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Uh well , this is the total interface uh that f of the L_C_D_ screen . Uh the numbers , which is pretty straight forward . We put ano an an extra button in . We can erase it , but {disfmarker} It's the button where you can switch channels . {gap} just when you are one and you go to two , you can {disfmarker} or if you go to five , you can go back to one with that button . Yeah , that one , yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Previous page , yeah , indeed .", + "User Interface : It has a name . And uh uh we put that in ,", + "Industrial Designer : Oh my God .", + "User Interface : I thought it would be handy there . Uh this the one number or two numbers button . Below that , the page and the sound . And uh in the middle the the mute . Uh battery indicator . {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {vocalsound} It's quite large .", + "User Interface : It's {vocalsound} it's a bit big .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} And this is the uh the on off uh knop , the stand by uh knop . Or at least it should look like it . And the options uh of teletext .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay . You can see very clearly now that the uh teletext and options menu isn't uh taking uh much uh {disfmarker} uh it's taking much part of the screen , so it's very uh {disfmarker} when you uh {vocalsound} when you use it , doesn't uh become irritating to see .", + "User Interface : Huh .", + "Industrial Designer : 'Cause if you put it on the top you always get see the the options menu . 'Cause people regularly uh read from left top to right down ,", + "Project Manager : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : so {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Yeah . Well this about it , I think .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay . Huh .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Thank you . Looks good .", + "User Interface : I will put it back on the {disfmarker} {vocalsound} on the nice green .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : And I just missed when I was typing {disfmarker} The R_R_ stands for ?", + "Industrial Designer : {gap}", + "User Interface : That's the logo of the {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Logo , okay . {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Yeah . It's th th right now it's only R_ R_ , but uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Okay well {disfmarker} {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : Full screen .", + "Project Manager : I would have recognised it if it were the right colours of course . {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : Shit .", + "User Interface : Yeah . {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : Alright . {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Sorry . {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : 'Kay . {gap}" + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "test", + "file_id": 21, + "turns": [ + 180, + 188 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "great opportunity", + "speaker": "Sarah Stone" + }, + "summary": "Sarah Stone thought that with the research at the School's Awareness of Early Trauma ACEs, paired with seeing the bigger picture, and their mission which was doing something to mitigate the impact of adverse childhood experiences, created a great opportunity to unleash the potential of those young people, with extraordinary resilience and strength in situations that were hard to imagine. So there was a real opportunity to create change. Also, it is said that this issue about PRUs and exclusions was a chance to make that ambition real.", + "title": "Sarah Stone Sees a Great Opportunity", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 2, + 4 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "great opportunity", + "speaker": "Sarah Stone" + }, + "summary": "Sarah Stone thought that their research, and their mission which was doing something to mitigate the impact of adverse childhood experiences, created a great opportunity to release the potential of those young people whose, often, strength and resilience was extraordinary. So there was a real opportunity to create change.", + "title": "Sarah Stone View to a Great Opportunity", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 2, + 4 + ] + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "Janet Finch-Saunders AM : Thank you. And, then, to what extent are schools aware of the impact of early trauma ACEs, and how are schools adapting their practices to take account of them?", + "Dr Ian Johnson : I don't think we're really capable of saying that on an individual level. We're aware, as you've heard from previous evidence from heads of education, et cetera, directors of education, that work is going on on an all-Wales basis, and there's obviously an awful lot of work that's going on on the ACEs agenda. I referred to being a previous school governor, and that's somewhere that's become a trauma-informed school, and they have established that and are widening that base. I think that what the school does though is something that has to loop back, as I said, with the curriculum changes as we're going forward. There's a concern that I have at the moment regarding the progress on EOTAS and PRU within the new curriculum, and there's work that I think will still need to be done, and something that I'm sure will be considered by this committee when it deals with the curriculum assessment Bill when it comes forward later on in the year, because there were comments made by the education Minister, I think, in response to Suzy Davies, in the statement in January, that we're talking about disallowing areas of the curriculum on the basis of the individual learner, to which I have no concern in itself. However, the emotional and mental health well-being needs of this particularly vulnerable group of people needs to be centre stage. So, the role of the health and well-being area of learning and experience, and the role of mental health and emotional well-being within the curriculum, is hugely important.", + "Sarah Stone : And I think, just to add to that around the impact of early trauma, I think one of the things that we at Samaritans are particularly aware of is the impact of loneliness and isolation on individuals and how that can help to drive distress and suicidal ideation. That sense of belongingness is recognised by the research as being critical to functioning well as a human being. We are social beings. And one of the ways in which early trauma and adversity, if that leads to exclusion from a range of groups, is to lead to lifelong isolation. It's something that comes out when you look at middle-aged men. You look at a trajectory that goes back towards their early years, very often, and Samaritans is about to release some research on that very point. So, there's a connection between what happens in later life and what happens here. There's also, if we look at the numbers of exclusions around boys, and we're looking at much higher suicide rates and numbers of other issues around men\u2014. Again, I think it's important to see this whole picture\u2014", + "Janet Finch-Saunders AM : It's very bad in north Wales. Our figures are very worrying.", + "Sarah Stone : Yes, exactly. So, there's a bigger picture here. I would say that we want to do something to mitigate the impact of adverse childhood experiences, and we have this great opportunity to release the potential of those young people whose, often, strength and resilience is quite extraordinary in circumstances that many of us would find hard to imagine. So, we need to look at the assets that young people have as well, which you can work with. So, I think if there's a real opportunity to create a change, this is one of them. This issue about exclusions and PRUs\u2014this is a chance to make that ambition real.", + "Janet Finch-Saunders AM : Thank you so much. Very good.", + "Liz Williams : Just to reiterate what Sarah said, looking at our research, which, obviously, isn't yet published but will be soon, it really is quite shocking how these men fell through the net so many times when they were young, and, actually, how many missed opportunities there were to intervene in the cycles of inequality. It is quite clear from that research that these stages where children are demonstrating challenging behaviour are the first signs of distress. So actually, this is where we should be intervening. So, I think like Sarah said, it is really important to see this as a preventative agenda.", + "Janet Finch-Saunders AM : Thank you.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : Thank you. Dawn." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "test", + "file_id": 22, + "turns": [ + 85, + 504 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "technical issues , project", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "There were some changes in the design requirements. Considering the basic need for the device being to send messages to a TV set, by pulses of infrared light, the essentials would be the battery, infrared diode, buttons, chips, and circuit board; all those cased together. LED lights in the remote were also suggested to accomplish the glow in the dark concept previously discussed. It was proposed to use energy-friendly components or a rechargeable design, a solar panel, or rechargeable batteries. A finding function based on a sound signal was suggested and supported by the whole team to make the product special, even if it meant a more complicated technical design.", + "title": "Technical Issues and Design of Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + 2, + 4, + 8, + 11, + 14, + 26, + 28, + 32, + 37, + 39, + 42, + 47, + 68, + 78, + 85, + [ + 95, + 96 + ], + 103, + 116, + 132, + [ + 141, + 143 + ], + 160, + 163, + 172, + 400 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "technical issues , project", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Changes in the design requirements, changes in the method; device, send messages to a TV set, sending pulses of infrared light to a TV set. Energy source, connected to three things; user interface connected to a chip, connected to the sender, generates messages using, infrared light, sent to the receiver. Usually, kind of things, battery, infrared diode, buttons, chips, and circuit board; cased together; almost every piece of equipment, controlled infrared. Glow in the dark, concept, discussed. Basic scheme, just one chip, few buttons connected, lit, transmitted by an infrared Li diode, not a power source, basically the total design. Energy-friendly components, rechargeable design, energy-save design; blinking LEDs; power friendly LEDs; low-cost circuit board. Channel switching; two or four buttons; light in the device. Requirements changed. Finding function; sound signal. The volume and the zap buttons, mostly used; zap buttons most. No technical difficulties, developing a product, what the market needs, buttons, sound signal. Video sets, special button, kind of weird sound, remote controls, beep; easy as possible, customers; the characteristics of clapping, increase in the volume, the amplitude of the sound; a peak; generated a few times, certain period of time. The most important thing for people, central point, the remote control, reports itself; a base station next to the TV, the best possibility; implementing this kind of function, technical design, more complicated. Hybrid devices, which incorporate a solar panel and rechargeable batteries.", + "title": "Technical Issues and Design of Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + 2, + 4, + 8, + 11, + 14, + 26, + 28, + 32, + 37, + 39, + 42, + 47, + 68, + 78, + 85, + [ + 95, + 96 + ], + 103, + 116, + 132, + [ + 141, + 143 + ], + 160, + 163, + 172, + 400 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "prevent customers , losing , remote control , technical issues , project", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "From people's complaint about losing their remote control, the team discussed the possibility of incorporating a finding function based on a sound signal. After arguing pros and cons of different ways to achieve it such as something like clapping, but using new technologies, the find-the-remote-control button that some video sets had; User Interface suggested a base station next to the TV with a button that made the remote reported itself. Everyone agreed, even though it would be costly.", + "title": "Adding a Finding Function to Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 73, + 85 + ], + [ + 103, + 104 + ], + [ + 108, + 116 + ], + 124, + [ + 131, + 132 + ], + 138, + [ + 141, + 143 + ], + [ + 145, + 149 + ], + 157, + [ + 160, + 165 + ], + [ + 172, + 174 + ], + [ + 177, + 186 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "prevent customers , losing , remote control , technical issues , project", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "As people complained they couldn't find their remote control, Industrial Designer proposed a finding function. User Interface wondered from where would the sound signal be executed, arguing another device wouldn't be a solution. The idea of something like clapping, but using new technologies, was discussed. Industrial Designer mentioned the find the remote control button that some video sets had, but the problem was that not all TVs had those buttons, and they had no control over the TV set. Industrial Designer said it was complicated to separate the clapping sound from other sounds, as the characteristics were an increase in the volume and the amplitude of sound, so the remote could confuse some sound and beep; so User Interface suggested having a base station next to the TV, so people could have a central point to which they could go and press a button to make the remote reported itself. Everyone agreed and decided to find alternatives for the lighting function, because the sound signal would be costly.", + "title": "Adding a Finding Function to Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 73, + 85 + ], + 104, + [ + 108, + 116 + ], + 124, + [ + 131, + 132 + ], + 138, + [ + 141, + 143 + ], + [ + 145, + 149 + ], + 157, + [ + 160, + 165 + ], + [ + 172, + 174 + ], + [ + 177, + 186 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "energy source , technical issues", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "The teams discussed the power source for the remote control. Industrial Designer mentioned that most of the remotes had infrared control, while some others more luxury remotes had lithium buttons, and also stated the importance of using energy-friendly components that consume less power than the conventional ones. Industrial Designer said there were hybrid devices which incorporated a solar panel and rechargeable batteries. Project Manager liked that idea, as the remote would charge itself just by being in a light room.", + "title": "Energy Source for Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 8, + 10 + ], + 14, + 26, + 400, + 402 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "energy source , technical issues", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "The power source was discussed, mentioning the infrared remote controls and the lithium buttons. A rechargeable design was proposed, or an energy-save design; such as hybrid devices with a solar panel and rechargeable batteries.", + "title": "Energy Source for Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 8, + 10 + ], + 14, + 26, + 400, + 402 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "infrared", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer" + }, + "summary": "Industrial Designer argued in favor of using an infrared diode to communicate the device to the TV set, explaining that it was the easiest way to do it and that almost every TV set used that, so it would be compatible with their remote control.", + "title": "Use of Infrared on Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + 4, + 8, + 10, + 14, + 24 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "infrared", + "speaker": "Industrial Designer" + }, + "summary": "Industrial Designer said the device had to send messages to a TV set, and the most easy way would be by sending pulses of infrared light to the receiver, so among the components of the device there should be an infrared diode, despite there were some exceptions as luxury remotes that had lithium buttons. Industrial Designer explained that in the basic scheme of the device, the whole thing was transmitted by an infrared Li diode, and insisted on using infrared for the remote control, because otherwise their device would not be able to communicate with almos every TV set.", + "title": "Use of Infrared on Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + 4, + 8, + 10, + 14, + 24 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "remote control buttons", + "speaker": "Project Manager , Industrial Designer , Marketing" + }, + "summary": "Industrial Designer said the buttons were part of the basic components of the remote control. Marketing proposed to light the most used buttons. Project Manager wondered whether that meant a cost difference. Marketing said customers use ten percent buttons. 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Project Manager, adapter as well; Industrial Designer, yes, mass production, very cheap, cost, practically nothing.", + "title": "Costs of Remote Control Components", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 26, + 28 + ], + [ + 32, + 37 + ], + 42, + [ + 163, + 166 + ], + [ + 174, + 175 + ], + 400, + 403, + 406, + [ + 412, + 414 + ], + [ + 417, + 419 + ] + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} Okay . {vocalsound} Excuse me . {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} Scusi . {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : Um {disfmarker} Okay , it's still the right thing . Okay . Um well , there are some changes in the design requirements , so there are some changes in the method also .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : Um basically all this device has to do is send messages to a T_V_ set . And the m most easy way to do this is by uh sending pulses of infrared light to a T_V_ set . Well , I th I tried to uh implement a picture here ,", + "User Interface : Energies and uh {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : but it's hardly readable . Can you see it ?", + "Project Manager : No , it's not visible .", + "Industrial Designer : No ? Well {disfmarker} Um , there's a energy source here . {vocalsound} And um basically there {disfmarker} it's connected to three things . The user interface connected to a chip , which is connected to the sender , which generates messages using uh infrared light , which are sent to the receiver . That's basically the idea . And there's a little picture , just for your imagination , how a device like this should look or can look . {vocalsound} Okay . Um what have I found . Usually these kind of things consist of a battery , infrared diode , buttons , chips , and circuit board . That's all . It's cased together , nothing more than that . {vocalsound} It's almost every piece of equipment um every piece of uh every T_V_ set is controlled infrared .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : There are some exceptions , but most of all have uh infrared controls . And uh the more luxury uh remote controls have lithium buttons . And I think that's what we w", + "User Interface : The glow in the dark uh concept uh we discussed .", + "Industrial Designer : yes . In the {disfmarker} and it's a little more {disfmarker} a little bit more fancy also . So maybe we should consider that . {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Yeah . Okay .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay . I have a basic scheme of the things uh which are implemented . Um basically this is all there is . There's just one chip . There are a few buttons connected . Uh the buttons are lit . And the whole thing is transmitted by a infrared li diode , and there is not a power source here . {vocalsound} So that's basically the total design of this piece of equipment .", + "Project Manager : So it's fairly easy .", + "Industrial Designer : There's nothing more to it . It's fairly easy . It's been done many times before ,", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} Okay .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} Succeed in it also .", + "Industrial Designer : and I think we should uh we should c s succeed in in our plan to do this .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Okay ,", + "Industrial Designer : So {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Okay , so uh", + "Project Manager : good .", + "Industrial Designer : personally I think we should infra use infrared , because uh otherwise our device cannot uh communicate with uh almost every T_V_ set . So I think that uh should be clear .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "Industrial Designer : Uh another important point is uh we really should use uh energy uh sparse , friendly components . Uh there are specially uh designed um energy-friendly components which consume uh far less power than uh conventional components . And um if we want to use uh a rechargeable design or uh a energy-save design , we should really implement them . {vocalsound} Um for cost-effectiveness , we should really use a very low-cost uh circuit board , um because most of the production cost are are in this uh part of the equipment .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "Industrial Designer : And um the money we save on using this we can use uh for elaborate fancy lighting uh techniques , blinking LEDs and all that kind of fancy stuff .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} And what's the um {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : I think our uh users will really uh will really like that .", + "User Interface : if we use the LEDs , i does it use much more energy or {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : No , they're p f uh power friendly LEDs also .", + "User Interface : Okay .", + "Industrial Designer : So we can use them . So that's no problem .", + "User Interface : For the same costs , it's can be uh in our {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Uh no , they're uh they're a little bit more expensive , but by uh um um making {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Combined with the low-cost circuit board so it's uh {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : We can we can make its I think .", + "Marketing : Well you could only lit uh the buttons {disfmarker} the buttons that are used most . So , the channel switching .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Yeah , but but the question is whether um two or four buttons makes uh m makes such a difference in the costs if you already plan to uh include fancy lightning techniques , I guess .", + "Marketing : Or {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Okay .", + "User Interface : But I think {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Hmm .", + "User Interface : Yeah , I think it's the same as in the cell phone , just light in in the device that that shines on all the buttons ,", + "Marketing : Hmm , true . {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : and not for {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Yes . Well , it's not one light , it {disfmarker} there are more lights in a in a in a mobile device .", + "User Interface : Yeah , but not for each button one LED , I think .", + "Industrial Designer : No no no , no . 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And uh lots of people complained they kin can't find their remote control .", + "Industrial Designer : Mm .", + "Marketing : So we might want to build in a feature to uh support them . Some uh audio signal . Like uh home phones .", + "Project Manager : Okay . Well , that's interesting .", + "Marketing : Or {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Or a find {disfmarker} a finding function ,", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Yeah ,", + "Industrial Designer : you know .", + "Project Manager : that's definitely interesting .", + "Industrial Designer : That's quite a {disfmarker} yes .", + "Project Manager : It uh it separates our product from others uh as well .", + "User Interface : Sound signal .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Okay ,", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : go on .", + "Industrial Designer : Yes .", + "Marketing : Well , I just said that . 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It's an uni an unique feature ,", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : and um I think um it's worth um uh looking and and {disfmarker} probably more i interesting than uh than the lights .", + "Project Manager : Mm .", + "Industrial Designer : But maybe can {disfmarker} we we can think something smart about it .", + "Project Manager : Yep .", + "Industrial Designer : There are some uh hybrid hybrid devices which incorporate a solar panel and rechargeable batteries .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "Industrial Designer : So when you just leave the device in a in a light room , it charges itself .", + "Project Manager : But {disfmarker} But but can we manage it bu uh for the costs ?", + "Industrial Designer : You have to do nothing for it .", + "Marketing : M {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} Twelve dollar fifty . {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Because it seems like a very {disfmarker} {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} Maybe , maybe not .", + "Marketing : And uh if we if we could inc uh include a c a cradle in which it could recharge , then there wouldn't be uh a big problem .", + "Industrial Designer : I'll have to find that out . Yes . So {disfmarker} No , that's very cheap .", + "Marketing : 'Cause when {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Is a cradle very cheap ?", + "Industrial Designer : It's {disfmarker} Oh , it's very cheap . That's no problem . It's just a a case with two uh metal contacts .", + "Project Manager : I know , b uh but there should be an adapter as well .", + "Industrial Designer : It's {disfmarker} Yes , but they're they're mass production .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : They're very cheap .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "Industrial Designer : So it will cost us p practically nothing ." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "train", + "file_id": 56, + "turns": [ + 0, + 43 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "jane", + "speaker": "Grad A , Professor C" + }, + "summary": "Grad A said they were live and that the form of discussion should be very short. 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Okay , let's talk about all of our {disfmarker} We'll come to decision later about all the components that we need to include , let's um wrap up this one , and {vocalsound} I'm gonna go back to my PowerPoint , 'cause we need to discuss the new project requirements which you might've already seen flashed up on the screen a bit earlier . {vocalsound} Wait , come back . Alright . Sorry , let's go through this . Alright . Here we go . New product requirements . First it's only going to be a T_V_ remote . We're trying not to over-complicate things . So no D_V_D_ , no TiVo , no stereo .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} Okay .", + "Project Manager : It's not gonna be multi-functional .", + "User Interface : {gap}", + "Project Manager : Hey . And we th need to promote our company more , so we need to somehow include our colour and our company slogan on the remote . We're trying to get our name out there in the world . Okay .", + "User Interface : {gap}", + "Project Manager : And you know what teletext is ?", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : {gap} in States we don't have it , but um it's like they just have this channel where just has news and weather , kind of sports ,", + "User Interface : I know .", + "Marketing : What is it ?", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : it's very um bland looking , it's just text on the screen ,", + "User Interface : Yeah ,", + "Project Manager : not even {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : it's like black , black and white kind of {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Yeah , just black with just text .", + "Marketing : Like running along the bottom ?", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : You can also get the kind of the T_V_ guide so {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : It'll give you the sports .", + "Marketing : Wait , is it like the Weather Channel where it's got like the ticker running on the bottom or something ?", + "Project Manager : Kind of .", + "User Interface : Except the entire screen .", + "Project Manager : Yeah it's the whole screen .", + "Industrial Designer : It's the entire screen is just running information at random .", + "Project Manager : So anyway {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : You can pick sports , you can pick the news , you entertainment ,", + "Industrial Designer : Seemingly .", + "User Interface : you know it's like {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Right .", + "Marketing : So it's like a separate channel from like what you're watching ?", + "Project Manager : Right . But it's becoming out-dated now , because of the Internet .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Nobody needs to go to the teletext channel to check the news , {vocalsound} and we have twenty four hour news channels now too , so {disfmarker} Those are our new product requirements . Alright . Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay .", + "Marketing : Okay .", + "Industrial Designer : So , do we have to include the company colour within that ?", + "Project Manager : Yes . It's part of the logo . Okay .", + "User Interface : Company colour being yellow . {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : What we're going to do right now is come to some decisions , definitive that we can all agree on , about um the target group and the functions and just definite things that we need to do and then we'll close up the meeting . So . Alright . {gap} Whatever . Okay . So our target group is {disfmarker} You mentioned um older people ? Would it just be universal for everyone , you think ?", + "User Interface : Mm-hmm .", + "Project Manager : Because I think even if something has large buttons , as long as they are not childishly large , like even technically {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : It's gonna make it nicer . Yeah .", + "Project Manager : non-technically challenged people are gonna use it . I mean they want something user-friendly , so {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Mm well , even if we kept the regular standard size of remote , if we reduced the buttons down to the ones that people are saying that they use the most often and a couple extra ,", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : 'cause they're saying they only use ten per cent of them ,", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : then we should be able to accommodate fairly decent sized buttons .", + "Project Manager : Okay , so we want um for our target group would we say , I mean , young and old , all age ranges , all um , not kids obviously , right ? Or kids ?", + "Marketing : No , kids need to know how to use a remote , I would think .", + "Industrial Designer : Most of them will intuitively pick it up though .", + "Project Manager : {gap}", + "Marketing : They gotta change between Disney Channel , Cartoon Network .", + "Project Manager : Okay , so we're going to go anywhere from kids to adult in the age range {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Yeah , I think we need it all .", + "Project Manager : Um what about technic technical um specifications , like how how technically literate are these people who are going to be using our remote ?", + "Industrial Designer : {gap}", + "Marketing : Um I would say we should say dumber than the average person .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "User Interface : We should go for the lowest denominator .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Right , okay . So so they need no technical experience to operate {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : High school educated .", + "Industrial Designer : {gap} how 'bout little to no , because there is no way that you are gonna be able to make it no .", + "Project Manager : Okay . And we also need to determine the specific functions of this , just to get it all out on paper . So we said it needs to send messages to the T_V_ , needs to change the channel , turn on and off , just basic simple stuff like this . So if you have something just say it and we'll add it to my meeting minutes .", + "User Interface : Well it's channel , on-off button , volume , mute .", + "Project Manager : Mm-hmm , volume .", + "Marketing : And channel . Yeah . Those are the most important ones .", + "Project Manager : Right . And we wanna keep um {disfmarker} I'll make a note here that we wanna keep the number of buttons down . Correct , because people only use ten percent .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : 'Kay . Hey , what else ?", + "User Interface : Um .", + "Project Manager : Um .", + "Industrial Designer : Do we want this thing to be able to be found easily ?", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : I think so . What do you {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Sure , yeah .", + "User Interface : {gap}", + "Project Manager : A finding kind of device or {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : And", + "Marketing : I need {disfmarker} we we need a like homing device .", + "Project Manager : Yeah , ho homing device . {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : like if this is gonna get lost underneath the coach , how are we going to accommodate the quick ability to find it ?", + "User Interface : Oh right yeah okay .", + "Project Manager : Mm 'kay .", + "User Interface : Tracking .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "Marketing : Because people really are looking for a remote that's more high-tech .", + "Project Manager : Right .", + "Industrial Designer : What if we gave it a charger ? And on the charger , just like a phone , like you get a portable phone and it's got a charger , and if you d leave your phone somewhere , you push the button to find it , and it finds th the phone beeps for you .", + "User Interface : But you got a base .", + "Marketing : Do you think people'll really go for that though ?", + "Industrial Designer : It's useful for the remote phone .", + "Marketing : Because {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Hmm .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Would that add to our costs at all , I wonder ?", + "Marketing : I would think so , because you'd have to develop a base .", + "Project Manager : Right .", + "User Interface : Well , if you have the base , you could start putting in a charger and then you have a different kind of battery .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : Rechargeable batteries are cheaper usually .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Okay . I I think we can make a decision about that later . Uh we'll still put that as a point that we need to discuss . So that would include battery source {disfmarker} Power source rather . Is it going to have a charger , or is it going to be run strictly off batteries ? And we also need to deal with the issue you mentioned of speech recognition , if we want that .", + "Marketing : Right .", + "User Interface : Well , then we could {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Do w", + "User Interface : If we have the speech recognition then we can start aiming at a like another kind of more handicapped disabled uh demo demographic .", + "Project Manager : Mm .", + "Marketing : Well , th there's the people who desire speech recognition , there's the different demog demographics have different desires , I don't know if you guys ge", + "Project Manager : You could um {disfmarker} we could hook it up .", + "Marketing : It wouldn't copy onto the the thing 'cause it's black ,", + "Project Manager : Oh .", + "Marketing : but all the different age groups have different desires for speech recognition . So {vocalsound} basically older people don't really care .", + "User Interface : {gap}", + "Marketing : It's really the people twenty five to thirty five . I feel those are the people that really watch a lot of T_V_ though .", + "Project Manager : Mm-hmm .", + "Marketing : They're the ones that get addicted to soap operas and", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : And if and if we introduced it when they're this age , they're going to probably always buy a remote that has {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Well {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : just sitcoms and stuff . Right .", + "User Interface : Well , then then do you put the voice recognition {disfmarker} do you put the r like receiver on the actual television , in the base , or in the actual remote ,", + "Marketing : So {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : 'cause then you've already got remote in your hand , why you just gonna speak to the remote ,", + "Project Manager : Right .", + "User Interface : whereas if you just speak in general and you don't have to have the remote in your hand and like talk at it .", + "Project Manager : Yeah . {gap} and the speech recognition could be part of the lost and found device , too . If we said , find remote , locate remote , or something .", + "Marketing : Right .", + "Project Manager : A certain phrase then it could beep . I dunno . Just throwing it out there .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Well {disfmarker} {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Still {gap} fifteen minutes .", + "Project Manager : Okay , anything else we wanna discuss ?", + "User Interface : Um . Well , do we wanna include the numbers like zero through nine ? Can we conceive of leaving them out ?", + "Project Manager : Um .", + "Marketing : Wait , on the remote itself ?", + "Project Manager : {gap}", + "User Interface : Yeah , like you have one , two , three , four , five , six , seven , eight , nine , zero .", + "Project Manager : How how ,", + "Marketing : Well , we definitely need those .", + "Project Manager : yeah , how would you leave those out ?", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Well , I don't know , I mean , if you can {gap} like well {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Unless you could say the channel .", + "User Interface : I don't know , if there's just a way of leaving them out ?", + "Industrial Designer : I think people would find that too foreign .", + "Project Manager : Yeah , that's true .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : And also remember that in this day in age we need , you know , like a hundred button , too .", + "Marketing : You definitely need {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : I used to have a remote that did not even go up past like fifty . {vocalsound} So I couldn't {disfmarker} whenever I got cable , I had to get a new T_V_ .", + "Industrial Designer : It's when we get satellite .", + "Project Manager : Mm . {gap} get your own remote , or digital cable .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : 'Kay . Um . I guess , we're gonna discuss the project financing later , making sure that we can fit all of the stuff that we want to on our budget . Um .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , 'cause I don't have any material pricing information available to me at the moment , so {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : 'Kay . And don't forget we need to include the colour of our company and the logo .", + "User Interface : The colour being yellow ?", + "Marketing : Wait .", + "Project Manager : I'm guessing . And the R_R_ .", + "User Interface : And how do we {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : I feel like a ye I feel like a yellow one would be too garish .", + "Industrial Designer : R_ the double R_ .", + "Project Manager : We could just have the logo in yellow ,", + "User Interface : Can't make it entirely {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : or maybe a yellow light for the keys .", + "Industrial Designer : Or is the l", + "Marketing : Or put like stripes , oh yeah , yellow lights .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , {vocalsound} yellow could be and it could {disfmarker} doesn't have to be huge .", + "User Interface : Well if you have like a {vocalsound} {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Hang on . If you have this sort of strip kind of down at the bottom {gap} the base of it , just like yellow with the R_R_ .", + "Project Manager : Right . So we've simplified , we don't need all those um play , fast-forward , rewind ,", + "User Interface : Right , yeah .", + "Project Manager : or no menu buttons .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : So we've pretty much pared it down to on-off , volume , mute , channel up and down , um the numbers {disfmarker} Yeah . {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} Um can we go back to {disfmarker} I'm gonna look really quickly back at those", + "User Interface : Two examples .", + "Project Manager : examples and see if there is anything .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Which one is yours , technical functions or functional requirement ?", + "User Interface : Oh , it's a {disfmarker} Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "Marketing : Yeah , audi audio settings and screen settings , we need those like audio settings mono , stereo , pitch , screen settings like brightness , colour , or do we just want that accessed accessed from the television itself ?", + "Project Manager : The T_V_ . I think that that's fine just for the T_V_ . I mean how often does the average user need to do that kind of stuff ?", + "User Interface : Well , the other option is sort of like down at the bottom , like farther away , you just have this sort of box inset where it's like the buttons that you don't use as much , but occasionally you will use .", + "Project Manager : Hmm .", + "User Interface : and so it's like {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Yeah , 'cause we need to {disfmarker} we definitely need to have buttons for like sub-titles and things like that . It's 'cause the foreign film market is expanding and stuff , and like on television like I know f k living in Los Angeles it's tons of Spanish network television if it has English sub-titles it's definitely helpful .", + "Project Manager : Couldn't we do that all through one button , something , a menu button , that pops up with a menu on the T_V_ that says , you know , audio , video , whatever , language ,", + "User Interface : I don't {disfmarker} well , I don't know .", + "Project Manager : you know ?", + "User Interface : Right .", + "Marketing : So we need up , down , and side-to-side buttons .", + "Project Manager : For the menus .", + "User Interface : Well , that could be {disfmarker} No you could just double up with like the channel or the volume buttons .", + "Industrial Designer : Mm-hmm .", + "Project Manager : That's true .", + "User Interface : Channel is just up and down .", + "Marketing : Yeah , okay . Okay , yeah .", + "User Interface : And then add a {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Something that looks mayb you know .", + "Marketing : Such as , yeah , the one the one over there on the left the engineering centred one .", + "Project Manager : Y right , right right right .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : That one ?", + "User Interface : So we just have it like {disfmarker} add a menu button then for the various things needed ,", + "Project Manager : Right .", + "User Interface : including v voice recognition if we have any like settings for voice recognition now", + "Project Manager : In the middle perhaps .", + "User Interface : included in the menu .", + "Project Manager : Yep .", + "Marketing : Ooh , I just got an idea for a design .", + "Project Manager : {gap} good . 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Y no , it's a slightly curved around the sides . {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound} Mm very nice .", + "User Interface : Um , it's almost curved like up to the main display as well . And the little line at the bottom indicates the bit {disfmarker} the panel that you pull down .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "User Interface : And the extra function buttons are below that panel on the little line .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "User Interface : And we've got the stick on the button with the company logo on .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : We also have a apple slash cherry design at the top .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : {vocalsound} So it is , yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound} {gap} {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : Cherry would be alright actually .", + "User Interface : Yeah ,", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "User Interface : it's a bit more fun , isn't it ? 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Uh , we just chose simple shapes for all them .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Um , the important ones are the volume ones . So we made them a bit bigger . The mute could possibly be a bit smaller .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : Hum , you separate off in colour the volume related buttons from the channel related buttons , so you've got the volume in orange on design there ,", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : and the the channel is in blue .", + "User Interface : Mm-hmm .", + "Project Manager : R right . Um ,", + "User Interface : Yeah , and we chose a V_ plus and V_ minus .", + "Project Manager : all these things have cost implications . And so when I done my thing on cost {vocalsound} a {disfmarker} I had assumed that the only uh button that would be a different colour would be the uh the red apple button . So {disfmarker} However , I've now {gap} . {vocalsound} But um , {vocalsound} yeah so uh but there would be a cost implication on that ,", + "Marketing : I'll see if I can find them .", + "Project Manager : and uh {disfmarker} as I suppose that {vocalsound} so whether {vocalsound} wanted to put in all these colours , would be uh open to debate , I suppose .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , sis", + "User Interface : Well the colours wouldn't {disfmarker} like that's {disfmarker} they wouldn't be too important ,", + "Marketing : Have {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : but we didn't have any white Play-Doh . {vocalsound} So that's where the colour buttons came from . {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} An important consideration .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} Right , okay so um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} And the second one underneath would be the idea for the {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Yes , we'll have the slide-away .", + "Project Manager : Right , okay . So we've got um detail design meeting .", + "Industrial Designer : Bottom .", + "Project Manager : Right . So {disfmarker} So , we've got {vocalsound} prototype presentation , which we've just done , evaluation criteria , um and finance , so I guess w we have to evaluate if that meets the various uh aspects that we're looking for uh from um our previous meeting .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : So other than the fact that it doesn't have the second layer , but um obviously obviously it would .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : Mm-hmm .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} But other than that , we got the red apple . 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Everything else is gonna be a standard .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : We've got special material , rubber , wood , titanium , et cetera and that ,", + "Industrial Designer : And then we'd have {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : so , I was {disfmarker} {vocalsound} originally , I was thinking {gap} rubber wasn't special ,", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Project Manager : but according to this , maybe it is .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} So {disfmarker} And the r I mean effectively we've got sixteen buttons that we're gonna have on there .", + "Marketing : Yeah . 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Else {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Whereas it would be {disfmarker} the special colour would be for the {disfmarker} So you would only have the one special button that was rubber , whereas the rest would be hard plastic . {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : I thi I think I think the button supplement i is just a supplement for all the buttons {gap} made in a different material , rather than per button .", + "Project Manager : Mm .", + "Marketing : I don't know though .", + "Project Manager : I would {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {disfmarker} Every design change is uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} sound] I dunno ,", + "Marketing : Hmm .", + "Project Manager : um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Okay , um , if we just had all the buttons as standard , except for the one red apple , then that would take care of that , I guess . We'd have one special colour and one special button form .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Project Manager : And when I plugged that in last time {disfmarker} {gap} remember it has to be under twelve and a half . As far as I know , that um {vocalsound} that took care of the uh of the various supplements .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Project Manager : And if {disfmarker} What happened ?", + "Marketing : You've just gone off the window into another one . It's on the bottom row .", + "User Interface : Maybe if you just minimise that one in the top right-hand corner of the little box .", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Now , right . {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Okay , so , but the point would be that if we uh if we just did special {disfmarker} Sorry , you were saying that it would be that one , that you would put in one there .", + "Marketing : Yeah . 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At the moment we've just got the simple chip , which costs one .", + "Project Manager : Uh-huh .", + "Industrial Designer : Um , I guess the sample sens sample speaker would be the voice recognition thing , which puts up to four ?", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : We should be slightly over our budget but if we gather something else down to slightly lower standard , and maybe go with the one the special form buttons , then we could have the speech {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Well , hold on . Um , if we Okay , that gives us twelve point seven", + "Industrial Designer : So uh maybe if we got rid of like the maybe one of the special colours , kept them all the same colour , then we could have the voice recognition", + "Project Manager : But remember that the idea was to keep it the colour of the {gap} {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : without {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Oh , I see , so just take out the special colour for the apple and {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , yeah .", + "User Interface : Um , {gap} . D wouldn't you have to keep the simple chip there as well ? You know how you turn that one to a zero , wouldn't the chip and the sample speaker be separate things ,", + "Marketing : Yeah , we have to have it {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Oh possibly , yeah , yeah maybe .", + "User Interface : so you need both of them ?", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Maybe um we'd be giving up on the kinetic . Um {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : And go for battery instead .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : That would give you one less .", + "Industrial Designer : We should {disfmarker} Yeah , that would save us one , though we'd still be slightly ov", + "Project Manager : But you reckon that i I mean the thing is that you wanted to a appeal to people and not have to replace batteries .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , yeah . Well , since it's the {disfmarker} through the whole technology type thing , um , you were saying in the market research that people like kind of interesting gadgets in them . Um , whether they would figure the {vocalsound} the s uh sample senor and the sample speaker , voice recognition be sort of a worthwhile thing to have .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : And then still have the batteries ,", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : or whatever they would prefer not uh {disfmarker} You know what I mean ? The the problem was the battery's running out and losing the um losing the remote .", + "Project Manager : Mm-hmm .", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : So you gotta decide which of those is more important to them .", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} But which do you think {disfmarker} or which do we think is the more important of the options ? In a sense , at the moment , we've got a total which we need to reduce down by one point two .", + "User Interface : I think the voice recognition .", + "Project Manager : At least . Remember that was a minimum requirement . 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Um I've been looking at uh the user interface of it . Um f for the techno f functions uh of of it . Um {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Yeah . Yeah you can take your time .", + "User Interface : Okay .", + "Project Manager : We've got uh plenty of time ,", + "User Interface : Mm ?", + "Marketing : Yeah", + "Project Manager : so {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : you should go to the top thingy . Slide show .", + "User Interface : Oh .", + "Project Manager : {gap}", + "User Interface : Uh .", + "Project Manager : Yeah . There it is . Yeah .", + "User Interface : Okay .", + "Marketing : Oh yeah .", + "User Interface : Um yeah . I think uh we uh must use the general functions uh of the uh remote control . Uh uh I've do I've uh done a little uh research on the internet and {gap} not much information about it , {gap} {disfmarker} Um about uh interface but uh {disfmarker} Uh {disfmarker} Yeah I I've been thinking about a simple manner uh to put a lot of functions uh uh in one um in one uh remote control . Uh so uh you've got a lot of devi uh devices like uh D_V_D_ uh uh television , uh stereo . So um {disfmarker} But uh it must be uh user-friendly . So um uh you c you can't put a a lot of uh functions uh in one uh {disfmarker} Yeah . Uh uh uh {disfmarker} Yeah . In one um remote control .", + "Project Manager : One remote .", + "User Interface : But um {disfmarker} Yeah .", + "Project Manager : {gap}", + "User Interface : Um yeah . Got uh many functions in one uh remote control , um but um yeah you can see , this is uh quite simple uh remote control .", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : Um few uh buttons but uh {disfmarker} This uh re uh remote control got a a lot of uh buttons . Um uh people uh don't like it , uh so um {disfmarker} Well what uh I was uh thinking about was um uh keep the general functions uh like they are . So uh like uh the on-off uh button . Uh keep it uh yeah l like a red button . Uh everybody everybody knows it so uh uh you don't have to change that . Um {disfmarker} My personal uh preferences um . Use a display for uh specific uh functions of the different uh device . So um {disfmarker} Wh what I was th uh thinking about was um you've got um {disfmarker} Uh this the remote control uh {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : {vocalsound} {gap}", + "Industrial Designer : {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : and uh you got here the general functions , uh like uh the on-off button uh sound uh {vocalsound} I dunno um {disfmarker} And um here you've got a s kind of a display . It's a touchscreen . So um yeah you got a general f uh f the functions of the device uh for a D_V_D_ player or uh so um the pl yeah um f for uh playing uh reverse uh {gap} . And um you got here uh real buttons for uh selecting uh a device . So um this button is for a D_V_D_ or {vocalsound} {disfmarker} So um for every um device you've got a uh a f a b a part uh display of a part buttons . So uh you you never got uh all the buttons uh on w one device .", + "Project Manager : Hmm . {vocalsound}", + "User Interface : So uh that's uh my uh idea about it .", + "Project Manager : 'Kay .", + "User Interface : Um yeah and {disfmarker} Uh let's see . Uh yeah . So a touchscreen . Uh and um th the buttons uh the real buttons uh we have to use um . We better c um uh use uh quite uh large buttons uh for um yeah . Everybody uh have to use it so {disfmarker} Uh ol even even old people um young people . So uh we must keep uh buttons uh quite s uh simple and quite large . So uh {disfmarker} Um {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah . Uh yeah . That was uh my uh part of it .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "User Interface : So {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Anybody has questions about the technical functions ?", + "Industrial Designer : Well", + "Project Manager : {gap}", + "Industrial Designer : I think if we are gonna use a touchscreen uh we're gonna go way above the twelve and a half Euros .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : N I I don't think so . Uh you got uh quite a cheap uh touchscreen . S um it's uh not uh in colour or something .", + "Project Manager : Touchscreen .", + "User Interface : Uh it's just uh um one colo Uh yeah . Uh I seen uh w uh something on the internet uh not today but uh a few uh weeks ago . Uh you got uh yeah quite an uh a kind of uh touchscreen um and it's uh {vocalsound} for uh twenty uh Euros or uh less uh .", + "Project Manager : Huh .", + "User Interface : So it's possible .", + "Marketing : Hmm .", + "Project Manager : 'Kay . That's nice . Uh {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Well it would certainly make a fancy design .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : But the {disfmarker} It wouldn't be very robust .", + "Marketing : So {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : It's very fragile and you can get scratches on it .", + "Marketing : That is true .", + "Project Manager : That's right .", + "User Interface : Yeah that's true ." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "train", + "file_id": 4, + "turns": [ + 601, + 713 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "nsa meetings", + "speaker": "Postdoc A" + }, + "summary": "Postdoc A was to share some work from NSA meetings by Monday. Postdoc A gave a review of a script that was transcribed from one of the NSA meetings citing that the previous remarks were on the left and the corrections were on the right. 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Grad F said that no one had gone through that meeting, to see whether the transcript was correct or to see how much was missed. PhD C said that Jane sent transcripts to IBM people and PhD E replied saying the question was about reference files of the transcripts instead. 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Postdoc A then talked about transcribers not knowing what to make out of statements, using an example showing the transcriber's version versus the checked version. Postdoc A talked about problems with terminology when transcribers were handling descriptions and gave examples of the various incidences. Some were changed to acronyms when they shouldn't have been.", + "title": "Errors Transcribers Make", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 13, + 15 + ], + [ + 47, + 51 + ], + [ + 67, + 82 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "transcribers", + "speaker": "Professor B , Postdoc A" + }, + "summary": "Professor B, standard proc, transcribers, gonna be spending most of their time doing. 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My , um {disfmarker} I was thinking that with the {pause} NSA meetings , I 'd like {disfmarker} there are three of them , and they 're {disfmarker} uh , I {disfmarker} I will have them done by Monday . Uh , unfortunately the time is later and I don't know how that 's gonna work out , but I thought it 'd be good to have that released as a clump , too , because then , {vocalsound} you know , they 're {disfmarker} they {disfmarker} they have a {disfmarker} it it 's in a category , it 's not quite so distracting to them , is what I was thinking , and it 's all in one chu But after that , when we 're caught up a bit on this process , then , um , I could imagine sending them out periodically as they become available .", + "PhD E : OK .", + "Postdoc A : I could do it either way . I mean , it 's a question of how distracting it is to the people who have to do the checking .", + "Professor B : We heard anything from IBM ? at all ?", + "PhD C : Uh . Let 's see . We {disfmarker} Yeah , right . So we got the transcript back from that one meeting . Everything seemed fine . Adam {pause} had a script that will {pause} put everything back together and there was {disfmarker} Well , there was one small problem but it was a simple thing to fix . And then , um , {vocalsound} we , uh {disfmarker} I sent him a pointer to three more . And so he 's {pause} off and {pause} working on those .", + "Grad F : Yeah . Now we haven't actually had anyone go through that meeting , to see whether the transcript is correct and to see how much was missed and all that sort of stuff .", + "Postdoc A : That 's on my list .", + "Grad F : So at some point we need to do that .", + "PhD C : Yeah .", + "Postdoc A : Well , that 's on my list .", + "PhD C : Yeah . It 's gonna have to go through our regular process .", + "Grad F : I mean , the one thing I noticed is it did miss a lot of backchannels . There are a fair number of \" yeahs \" and \" uh - huhs \" that {disfmarker} it 's just {disfmarker} that aren't in there . So .", + "Postdoc A : Hmm .", + "Professor B : But I think {disfmarker} Yeah . Like you said , I mean , that 's {disfmarker} that 's gonna be our standard proc that 's what the transcribers are gonna be spending most of their time doing , I would imagine ,", + "Postdoc A : Mm - hmm . Mm - hmm , mm - hmm .", + "Professor B : once {disfmarker} once we {disfmarker}", + "Grad F : Yes , absolutely . Yeah .", + "Postdoc A : One question about the backchannels .", + "Professor B : It 's gonna {disfmarker}", + "Postdoc A : Do you suppose that was because they weren't caught by the pre - segmenter ?", + "Grad F : Yes , absolutely . Absolutely .", + "Postdoc A : Oh , interesting . Oh , interesting . OK .", + "Grad F : Yeah . They 're {disfmarker} they 're not in the segmented .", + "Postdoc A : OK .", + "Grad F : It 's not that the {pause} IBM people didn't do it .", + "Postdoc A : OK .", + "Grad F : Just they didn't get marked .", + "Postdoc A : OK . So maybe when the detector for that gets better or something {disfmarker} I w I {disfmarker} There 's another issue which is this {disfmarker} we 've been , uh , contacted by University of Washington now , of course , to , um {disfmarker} We sent them the transcripts that correspond to those {pause} six meetings and they 're downloading the audio files . So they 'll be doing that . Chuck 's {disfmarker} Chuck 's , uh , put that in .", + "PhD C : Mm - hmm . Yeah , I pointed them to the set that Andreas put , uh , on the {vocalsound} web so th if they want to compare directly with his results they can . And , um , then once , uh , th we can also point them at the , um , uh , the original meetings and they can grab those , too , with SCP .", + "PhD E : Wait . So you put the reference files {disfmarker} ?", + "PhD C : No , no . They d they wanted the audio .", + "PhD E : Or the {disfmarker} ?", + "PhD C : Jane sent them the , uh , transcripts .", + "PhD E : No , I mean of the transcripts . Um . Well , we can talk about it off - line .", + "PhD C : Mm - hmm .", + "Grad F : There 's another meeting in here , what , at four ? Right ? Yeah , so we have to finish by three forty - five .", + "PhD H : D d So , does Washi - does {disfmarker} does UW wanna u do this {disfmarker} wanna use this data for recognition or for something else ?", + "PhD C : Uh , for recognition .", + "PhD E : I think they 're doing w", + "PhD H : Oh .", + "PhD E : didn't they want to do language modeling on , you know , recognition - compatible transcripts", + "PhD H : Oh . I see .", + "Postdoc A : This is to show you , uh , some of the things that turn up during the checking procedure .", + "Professor B : Yeah .", + "PhD E : or {disfmarker} ?", + "Postdoc A : Um @ @ {comment} So , this is from one of the NSA meetings and , uh , i if you 're familiar with the diff format , the arrow to the left is what it was , and the arrow to the right is {pause} what it was changed to . So , um . {vocalsound} And now the first one . \" OK . So , then we started a weekly meeting . The last time , uh {disfmarker} \" And the transcriber thought \" little too much \" But , {vocalsound} uh , really , um , it was \" we learned too much \" , which makes more sense syntactically as well .", + "PhD H : And these {disfmarker} the parentheses were f from {disfmarker}", + "Postdoc A : Then {disfmarker} Oh , this {disfmarker} that 's the convention for indicating uncertain .", + "Grad F : U uncertains .", + "Postdoc A : So the transcriber was right .", + "PhD H : S", + "Postdoc A : You know , she was uncertain about that .", + "PhD H : OK .", + "Postdoc A : So she 's right to be uncertain . And it 's also a g a good indication of the {disfmarker} of that .", + "PhD H : Oh . {comment} OK .", + "Postdoc A : The next one . This was about , uh , Claudia and {pause} she 'd been really b busy with stuff , such as waivers . Uh , OK . Um , next one . Um . {vocalsound} This was {pause} an interesting one . So the original was \" So that 's not {disfmarker} so Claudia 's not the bad master here \" , and then he laughs , but it really \" web master \" .", + "Grad F : Web master .", + "Grad D : Oh . {comment} Uh - oh .", + "Postdoc A : And then you see another type of uncertainty which is , you know , they just didn't know what to make out of that . So instead of \" split upon unknown \" , {comment} it 's \" split in principle \" .", + "Grad F : Yep .", + "Grad D : Jane , these are from IBM ?", + "Grad F : Spit upon ?", + "Grad D : The top lines ?", + "Postdoc A : No , no . These are {disfmarker} these are our local transcriptions of the NSA meetings .", + "Grad F : No , these are {pause} ours .", + "Postdoc A : The transcribers {disfmarker} transcriber 's version ver versus the checked version .", + "Grad D : Oh . Oh , I see .", + "Postdoc A : My {disfmarker} my checked version , after I go through it .", + "Grad D : OK .", + "Postdoc A : Um , then you get down here . Um . Sometimes some speakers will insert foreign language terms . That 's the next example , the next one . The , uh , version beyond this is {disfmarker} So instead of saying \" or \" , especially those words , \" also \" and \" oder \" and some other ones . Those sneak in . Um , the next one {disfmarker}", + "Grad F : That 's cool .", + "PhD H : Discourse markers .", + "Postdoc A : S", + "PhD H : Discourse markers .", + "Postdoc A : Sorry , what ? Discourse markers ? Sure . Sure , sure , sure .", + "PhD H : Discourse markers .", + "Postdoc A : And it 's {disfmarker} and it makes sense", + "PhD H : Yeah . Yeah .", + "Postdoc A : cuz it 's , like , below this {disfmarker} it 's a little subliminal there .", + "PhD H : Yeah . Yeah , yeah .", + "Postdoc A : Um . OK , the next one , uh , {vocalsound} this is a term . The problem with terminology . Description with th the transcriber has \" X as an advance \" . But really it 's \" QS in advance \" . I mean , I {disfmarker} I 've benefited from some of these , uh , cross - group meetings . OK , then you got , um , {vocalsound} uh , instead of \" from something - or - other cards \" , {comment} it 's \" for multicast \" . And instead of \" ANN system related \" , it 's \" end system related \" . This was changed to an acronym initially and it should shouldn't have been . And then , you can see here \" GPS \" was misinterpreted . It 's just totally understanda This is {disfmarker} this is a lot of jargon . Um , and the final one , the transcriber had th \" in the core network itself or the exit unknown , not the internet unknown \" . And it {disfmarker} it comes through as \" in the core network itself of the access provider , not the internet backbone core \" . Now this is a lot of {pause} terminology . And they 're generally extremely good ,", + "PhD H : Mmm .", + "Postdoc A : but , you know in this {disfmarker} this area it really does pay to , um {disfmarker} to double check and I 'm hoping that when the checked versions are run through the recognizer that you 'll see s substantial improvements in performance cuz the {disfmarker} you know , there 're a lot of these in there .", + "PhD H : Yeah . So how often {disfmarker} ?", + "Grad F : Yeah , but I bet {disfmarker} I bet they 're acoustically challenging parts anyway , though .", + "Postdoc A : No , actually no .", + "Grad D : Mmm .", + "Postdoc A : Huh - uh .", + "Grad F : Oh , really ? Uh , it 's {disfmarker} Oh , so it 's just jargon .", + "Postdoc A : It 's jargon . Yeah . I mean this is {disfmarker} cuz , you know you don't realize in daily life how much you have top - down influences in what you 're hearing .", + "PhD H : Well , but {disfmarker}", + "Postdoc A : And it 's jar it 's jargon coupled with a foreign accent .", + "PhD H : But {disfmarker} but {disfmarker} But we don't {disfmarker} I mean , our language model right now doesn't know about these words anyhow . So ,", + "Professor B : Yeah .", + "PhD H : you know , un until you actually {pause} get a decent language model , @ @ {comment} Adam 's right .", + "Grad F : It probably won't do any better .", + "PhD H : You probably won't notice a difference . But it 's {disfmarker} I mean , it 's definitely good that these are fixed . I mean , {vocalsound} obviously .", + "Postdoc A : Well , also from the standpoint of getting people 's approval ,", + "Professor B : Yeah .", + "Postdoc A : cuz if someone sees a page full of uh , um , barely decipherable w you know , sentences , and then is asked to approve of it or not , {vocalsound} it 's , uh , uh {disfmarker}", + "Grad F : Did I say that ?", + "Professor B : Yeah .", + "Postdoc A : OK .", + "Professor B : Yeah . That would be a shame if people said \" well , I don't approve it because {pause} the {disfmarker} it 's not what I said \" .", + "Grad F : Well , that 's exactly why I put the extra option in ,", + "Professor B : Yeah .", + "Postdoc A : Exactly . That 's why we discussed that .", + "Professor B : Yeah .", + "Grad F : is that I was afraid people would say , \" let 's censor that because it 's wrong \" ,", + "Professor B : Yeah .", + "Grad F : and I don't want them to do that ." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "train", + "file_id": 54, + "turns": [ + 0, + 59 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "patterns , noise , recordings", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Professor A said that the PDA mikes had a big bunch of energy at five hertz and that the major components in the second wave were air conditioners and so wasn't a bad illustration of the effects of room noise but there was a question on whether they should change a capacitor on the input box. PhD B said Dan suggested a smaller capacitor for the PDA.", + "title": "Suggestions for Recordings Noise Reduction", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 2, + 9 + ], + 34 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "patterns , noise , recordings", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Professor A said the PDA mikes had a big bunch of energy at five hertz and that the major component in the second waveforms was actually the air conditioner and not the effects of room reverberation and so there was a question of whether they should change a capacitor on the input box but said the mail suggested running the data over a digital filter before dealing with it and the other thing was using Feacalc. Professor A said the best way to show the difference was using spectrograms but the eyes and the brain behind them were so good at picking out patterns from the noise that at first glance look at them it didn't seem like it was that bad because there were many features that were still preserved so the thing to do was to take a piece of the spectrogram where you could see that something looked different and blow it up. PhD B said Dan suggested a smaller capacitor for the PDA.", + "title": "Suggestions for Recordings Noise Reduction", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 2, + 9 + ], + 34 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "effect , noise , speech frequencies", + "speaker": "Professor A" + }, + "summary": "Professor A said there was an option in the Feacalc which allowed for high-pass filtering of noise and it didn't affect speech frequencies, even pretty low speech frequencies at all.", + "title": "Noise Filtering on Speech Frequencies", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 14, + 20 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "effect , noise , speech frequencies", + "speaker": "Professor A" + }, + "summary": "Professor A said that when using software based on the RASTA-PLP program which did both PLP and RASTA-PL there was an option on Feacalc which allowed high-pass filtering of noise and it wasn't a severe filter and didn't affect speech frequencies, even pretty low speech frequencies at all.", + "title": "Noise Filtering on Speech Frequencies", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 14, + 20 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "patterns , noise , recordings", + "speaker": "PhD B" + }, + "summary": "PhD B said that Professor A could have just thrown up some MFCC feature vectors and seen how different the numbers were.", + "title": "PhD B View on Noise Pattern in Recordings", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 5, + 8 + ], + [ + 45, + 59 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "patterns , noise , recordings", + "speaker": "PhD B" + }, + "summary": "PhD B said that Dan had suggested using a smaller capacitor for the PDA to avoid room noise affecting the dynamic range and suggested Professor A could have just thrown up some MFCC feature vectors one from one, one from the other, and seen how different the sequences of the actual numbers were.", + "title": "PhD B View on Noise Pattern in Recordings", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 5, + 8 + ], + [ + 45, + 59 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "spectral slices", + "speaker": "Grad C , Professor A" + }, + "summary": "Grad C asked what Professor A meant by Spectral slices. Professor A said that the recognizers looked at the frame and at one point they got a spectrum or a cepstrum.", + "title": "Recognizers for Spectral Slices", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 34, + 48 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "spectral slices", + "speaker": "Grad C , Professor A" + }, + "summary": "Grad C asked what Professor A meant by Spectral slices and Professor A said that all the recognizers looked at frames and at one point in time or over twenty milliseconds or something, they had a spectrum or a cepstrum which was what was meant by a slice, so they took some spectral slices and looked at the spectrum or cepstrum that they got out of there and the reverberation that changed.", + "title": "Recognizers for Spectral Slices", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 34, + 48 + ] + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "PhD B : OK . We 're on .", + "Grad E : Hello ?", + "Professor A : OK , so uh {vocalsound} had some interesting mail from uh Dan Ellis . Actually , I think he {disfmarker} he {vocalsound} redirected it to everybody also so uh {vocalsound} the PDA mikes uh have a big bunch of energy at {disfmarker} at uh five hertz uh where this came up was that uh I was showing off these wave forms that we have on the web and {disfmarker} and uh {vocalsound} I just sort of hadn't noticed this , but that {disfmarker} the major , major component in the wave {disfmarker} in the second wave form in that pair of wave forms is actually the air conditioner .", + "Grad C : Huh .", + "Professor A : So . So . I {vocalsound} {vocalsound} I have to be more careful about using that as a {disfmarker} as a {disfmarker} {vocalsound} as a good illustration , uh , in fact it 's not , of uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} of the effects of room reverberation . It is isn't a bad illustration of the effects of uh room noise . {vocalsound} on {disfmarker} on uh some mikes uh but So . And then we had this other discussion about um {vocalsound} whether this affects the dynamic range , cuz I know , although we start off with thirty two bits , you end up with uh sixteen bits and {vocalsound} you know , are we getting hurt there ? But uh Dan is pretty confident that we 're not , that {disfmarker} that quantization error is not {disfmarker} is still not a significant {vocalsound} factor there . So . So there was a question of whether we should change things here , whether we should {vocalsound} change a capacitor on the input box for that or whether we should", + "PhD B : Yeah , he suggested a smaller capacitor , right ?", + "Professor A : Right . But then I had some other uh thing discussions with him", + "PhD B : For the P D", + "Professor A : and the feeling was {vocalsound} once we start monk monkeying with that , uh , many other problems could ha happen . And additionally we {disfmarker} we already have a lot of data that 's been collected with that , so .", + "PhD B : Yeah .", + "Professor A : A simple thing to do is he {disfmarker} he {disfmarker} he has a {disfmarker} I forget if it {disfmarker} this was in that mail or in the following mail , but he has a {disfmarker} a simple filter , a digital filter that he suggested . We just run over the data before we deal with it .", + "PhD B : Mm - hmm .", + "Professor A : um The other thing that I don't know the answer to , but when people are using Feacalc here , uh whether they 're using it with the high - pass filter option or not . And I don't know if anybody knows .", + "Grad E : Um . {vocalsound} I could go check .", + "Professor A : But . Yeah . So when we 're doing all these things using our software there is {disfmarker} um if it 's {disfmarker} if it 's based on the RASTA - PLP program , {vocalsound} which does both PLP and RASTA - PLP {vocalsound} um then {vocalsound} uh there is an option there which then comes up through to Feacalc which {vocalsound} um allows you to do high - pass filtering and in general we like to do that , because of things like this and {vocalsound} it 's {disfmarker} it 's pretty {disfmarker} it 's not a very severe filter . Doesn't affect speech frequencies , even pretty low speech frequencies , at all , but it 's", + "PhD B : What 's the {pause} cut - off frequency it used ?", + "Professor A : Oh . I don't know I wrote this a while ago", + "PhD B : Is it like twenty ?", + "Professor A : Something like that .", + "PhD B : Yeah .", + "Professor A : Yeah . I mean I think there 's some effect above twenty but it 's {disfmarker} it 's {disfmarker} it 's {disfmarker} it 's mild . So , I mean it probably {disfmarker} there 's probably some effect up to a hundred hertz or something but it 's {disfmarker} it 's pretty mild . I don't know in the {disfmarker} in the STRUT implementation of the stuff is there a high - pass filter or a pre pre - emphasis or something in the {disfmarker}", + "PhD F : Uh . I think we use a pre - emphasis . Yeah . Yeah .", + "Professor A : So . We {disfmarker} we {disfmarker} we want to go and check that in i for anything that we 're going to use the P D A mike for . {vocalsound} uh He says that there 's a pretty good roll off in the PZM mikes so {vocalsound} we don't need {disfmarker} need to worry about them one way or the other but if we do make use of the cheap mikes , {vocalsound} uh we want to be sure to do that {disfmarker} that filtering before we {vocalsound} process it . And then again if it 's uh depending on the option that the {disfmarker} our {disfmarker} our software is being run with , it 's {disfmarker} it 's quite possible that 's already being taken care of . uh But I also have to pick a different picture to show the effects of reverberation . uh", + "PhD B : Did somebody notice it during your talk ?", + "Professor A : uh No .", + "PhD B : Huh .", + "Professor A : Well . uh Well . If they made output they were {disfmarker} they were , you know {disfmarker} they were nice .", + "PhD B : Didn't say anything ?", + "Professor A : But . {vocalsound} I mean the thing is it was since I was talking about reverberation and showing this thing that was noise , it wasn't a good match , but it certainly was still uh an indication of the fact that you get noise with distant mikes . uh It 's just not a great example because not only isn't it reverberation but it 's a noise that we definitely know what to do .", + "PhD B : Mm - hmm .", + "Professor A : So , I mean , it doesn't take deep {disfmarker} {vocalsound} a new {disfmarker} bold new methods to get rid of uh five hertz noise , so .", + "PhD B : Yeah .", + "Professor A : um {vocalsound} uh But . So it was {disfmarker} it was a bad example in that way , but it 's {disfmarker} it still is {disfmarker} it 's the real thing that we did get out of the microphone at distance , so it wasn't {vocalsound} it w it w wasn't wrong it was inappropriate . So . {vocalsound} So uh , but uh , Yeah , someone noticed it later pointed it out to me , and I went \" oh , man . Why didn't I notice that ? \"", + "PhD B : Hmm .", + "Professor A : um . So . {vocalsound} um So I think we 'll change our {disfmarker} our picture on the web , when we 're @ @ . One of the things I was {disfmarker} I mean , I was trying to think about what {disfmarker} what 's the best {vocalsound} way to show the difference an and I had a couple of thoughts one was , {vocalsound} that spectrogram that we show {vocalsound} is O K , but the thing is {vocalsound} the eyes uh and the {vocalsound} the brain behind them are so good at picking out patterns {vocalsound} from {disfmarker} from noise {vocalsound} that in first glance you look at them it doesn't seem like it 's that bad uh because there 's many features that are still preserved . So one thing to do might be to just take a piece of the spec uh of the spectrogram where you can see {vocalsound} that something looks different , an and blow it up , and have that be the part that 's {disfmarker} just to show as well . You know .", + "PhD B : Mm - hmm . Mm - hmm .", + "Professor A : i i Some things are going to be hurt . um {vocalsound} Another , I was thinking of was um {vocalsound} taking some spectral slices , like uh {disfmarker} like we look at with the recognizer , and look at the spectrum or cepstrum that you get out of there , and the {disfmarker} the uh , um , {vocalsound} the reverberation uh does make it {disfmarker} does change that . And so maybe {disfmarker} maybe that would be more obvious .", + "PhD B : Hmm .", + "Grad C : Spectral slices ?", + "Professor A : Yeah .", + "Grad C : W w what d what do you mean ?", + "Professor A : Well , I mean um all the recognizers look at frames . So they {disfmarker} they look at {disfmarker}", + "PhD B : So like one instant in time .", + "Professor A : Yeah , look at a {disfmarker}", + "Grad C : OK .", + "Professor A : So it 's , yeah , at one point in time or uh twenty {disfmarker} over twenty milliseconds or something , {vocalsound} you have a spectrum or a cepstrum .", + "Grad C : OK .", + "Professor A : That 's what I meant by a slice .", + "Grad C : I see .", + "Professor A : Yeah . And {vocalsound} if you look at {disfmarker}", + "PhD B : You could just {disfmarker} you could just throw up , you know , uh {vocalsound} the uh {disfmarker} some MFCC feature vectors . You know , one from one , one from the other , and then , you know , you can look and see how different the numbers are .", + "Professor A : Right . Well , that 's why I saying either {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Well , either spectrum or cepstrum", + "PhD B : I 'm just kidding .", + "Professor A : but {disfmarker} {vocalsound} but I think the thing is you wanna {disfmarker}", + "PhD B : I don't mean a graph . I mean the actual numbers .", + "Professor A : Oh . I see . Oh . That would be lovely , yeah .", + "PhD B : Yeah . \" See how different these {vocalsound} sequences of numbers are ? \"", + "Professor A : Yeah . Or I could just add them up and get a different total .", + "PhD B : Yeah . It 's not the square .", + "Professor A : OK . Uh . What else {disfmarker} wh what 's {disfmarker} what else is going on ?" + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "train", + "file_id": 73, + "turns": [ + 199, + 272 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "quals , phase normalization", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Grad A said the quals preparation stuff was still being worked on and hoped to get the experiments done by the time quals came around in July. Grad G said that the attempt at phase normalization brought garbage results and that two experiments had been done.", + "title": "Results Based on Phase Normalization", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 4, + 8 + ], + 43, + 59 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "quals , phase normalization", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Grad A said the quals preparation stuff was still being worked on and was thinking about starting some cheating experiments to determine the relative effectiveness of some intermediate categories to be classified. Grad A said there was hope that those experiments would be done by the time quals came around in July. Grad G reported having tried phase normalization and gotten garbage results using the long-term mean subtraction approach. This turned out to be a bug in Grad G's Matlab code. Grad G also reported about doing two experiments regarding the phase normalization which turned out worse due to unwrapping the phase.", + "title": "Experiments Involving Phase Normalization", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 4, + 8 + ], + 43, + 59 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "phase normalization", + "speaker": "Professor B" + }, + "summary": "Professor B said that they didn't even know if the phase was something they wanted to remove, maybe there was a deeper reason why it wasn't the right thing to do. Professor B said in principle it looked like there were a couple of potential ways to do it either by working with complex numbers or doing a Taylor series. Professor B said that one had to be careful about scaling the complex numbers that one was taking the log of because the Taylor expansion has a square and a cube.", + "title": "Discussion on Phase Normalization", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 59, + 73 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "phase normalization", + "speaker": "Professor B" + }, + "summary": "Professor B said that they didn't even know if the phase was something they wanted to remove, maybe there was a deeper reason why it wasn't the right thing to do. Professor B said in principle it looked like there were a couple of potential ways to do it either by working with complex numbers in rectangular kind of coordinates or doing a Taylor series. Professor B said that one had to work with the complex numbers and then when one got the average spectrum, it was divided out as opposed to taking the log and subtracting. Professor B proceeded to say that one had to be careful about scaling the complex numbers that one was taking the log of because the Taylor expansion has a square and a cube. Professor B added that if one had a number that was modulus, it should be right around one because it was an expansion of log one, one minus epsilon, or one plus epsilon.", + "title": "In-Depth Discussion on Phase Normalization", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 59, + 73 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "experiments , running", + "speaker": "Grad A" + }, + "summary": "Grad A was thinking about running some cheating experiments to determine the relative effectiveness of some intermediate categories that Grad A wanted to classify. Grad A planned to do a phone recognition experiment with the perfect knowledge Grad A had of voicing. Grad A thought it would be useful to take LNA files and zonk out the posteriors to see what kind of improvement could be gotten. Grad A added that the experiment would involve working with TIMIT.", + "title": "Experiments to be Run by Grad A", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 4, + 29 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "experiments , running", + "speaker": "Grad A" + }, + "summary": "Grad A was thinking of running some cheating experiments to determine the relative effectiveness of some intermediate categories that Grad A wanted to classify. Grad A thought it would be useful to take LNA files and zonk out the posteriors, the phonemes that were not voiced.", + "title": "Grad A's Experiments", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 4, + 29 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "phone", + "speaker": "Grad A" + }, + "summary": "Grad A planned to do a phone recognition experiment, somehow putting in the perfect knowledge that Grad A had about voicing. Grad A was thinking of taking LNA files and setting them to zero probabilities that those phones were not voicing. Grad A was thinking of setting some really low probability for the non-voiced phones as well as working with TIMIT.", + "title": "Phone Recognition Experiments by Grad A", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 4, + 10 + ], + [ + 19, + 21 + ], + 25 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "phone", + "speaker": "Grad A" + }, + "summary": "Grad A, working on, quals preparation stuff; starting some, cheating experiments, determine the relative effectiveness of, some intermediate categories, want to classify; for example, where voicing occurs and everything, phone recognition experiment, perfect knowledge, about voicing; in the hybrid framework, taking, LNA files, setting to zero those probabilities that, these phones, not voicing; this particular segment, voicing, then see what kinds of improvements, useful thing, to know, which of these categories, good for, speech recognition; set to some really low number, the non-voiced, phones; and then renormalize; work with, phone recognition with TIMIT; outputs of the net go into the standard, ICSI hybrid, recognizer; maybe, Chronos.", + "title": "Phone Recognition Experiments by Grad A", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 4, + 10 + ], + [ + 19, + 21 + ], + 25 + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "PhD C : Uh , that 's it , I think . Mmm .", + "PhD F : Do you have anything , Morgan , or {disfmarker} ?", + "Professor B : Uh , no . I 'm just , you know , being a manager this week . So .", + "PhD F : How about you , Barry ?", + "Grad A : Um , {vocalsound} still working on my {disfmarker} my quals preparation stuff . Um , {vocalsound} so I 'm {disfmarker} I 'm thinking about , um , starting some , {vocalsound} uh , cheating experiments to , uh , determine the , um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} the relative effectiveness of , um , some intermediate categories that I want to classify . So , for example , um , {vocalsound} if I know where voicing occurs and everything , um , {vocalsound} I would do a phone {disfmarker} um , phone recognition experiment , um , somehow putting in the {disfmarker} the , uh {disfmarker} the perfect knowledge that I have about voicing . So , um , in particular I was thinking , {vocalsound} um , in {disfmarker} in the hybrid framework , just taking those LNA files , {vocalsound} and , um , {vocalsound} setting to zero those probabilities that , um {disfmarker} that these phones are not voicing . So say , like , I know this particular segment is voicing , um , {vocalsound} I would say , uh , go into the corresponding LNA file and zonk out the {disfmarker} the posteriors for , um , those phonemes that , um , are not voiced ,", + "PhD F : Mm - hmm . Mm - hmm .", + "Grad A : and then see what kinds of improvements I get . And so this would be a useful thing , um , to know {vocalsound} in terms of , like , which {disfmarker} which , um {disfmarker} which of these categories are {disfmarker} are good for , um , speech recognition .", + "PhD F : Hmm . Mm - hmm .", + "Grad A : So , that 's {disfmarker} I hope to get those , uh {disfmarker} those experiments done by {disfmarker} by the time quals come {disfmarker} come around in July .", + "PhD F : So do you just take the probabilities of the other ones and spread them out evenly among the {disfmarker} the remaining ones ?", + "Grad A : Yeah . I {disfmarker} I {disfmarker} I was thinking {disfmarker} OK , so just set to {disfmarker} set to some really low number , the {disfmarker} the non - voiced , um , phones .", + "PhD F : Mm - hmm .", + "Grad A : Right ? And then renormalize .", + "PhD F : Mmm .", + "Grad A : Right . Yeah .", + "PhD D : Mm - hmm .", + "PhD F : Cool . That will be really interesting to see , you know . So then you 're gonna feed the {disfmarker} those into {pause} some standard recognizer .", + "Grad A : Mm - hmm .", + "PhD F : Uh , wh are you gonna do digits", + "Grad A : Yeah , m Um , well , I 'm gonna f work with TIMIT {disfmarker}", + "PhD F : or {disfmarker} ? With TIMIT . OK .", + "Grad A : TIMIT {disfmarker} uh , phone recognition with TIMIT .", + "PhD F : Mm - hmm .", + "Grad A : And , um {disfmarker}", + "PhD F : Oh , so then you 'll feed those {disfmarker} Sorry . So where do the outputs of the net go into if you 're doing phone recognition ?", + "Grad A : Oh . Um , the outputs of the net go into the standard , h um , ICSI hybrid , um , recognizer . So maybe , um , Chronos", + "PhD F : An - and you 're gonna {disfmarker} the {disfmarker} you 're gonna do phone recognition with that ?", + "Grad A : or {disfmarker} Phone recognition . Right , right .", + "PhD F : OK , OK . I see .", + "Grad A : So . And , uh , another thing would be to extend this to , uh , digits or something where I can look at whole words .", + "PhD F : Mm - hmm .", + "Grad A : And I would be able to see , uh , not just , like , phoneme events , but , um , {vocalsound} inter - phoneme events . So , like , this is from a stop to {disfmarker} to a vo a vocalic", + "PhD F : Mm - hmm .", + "Grad A : segment . You know , so something that is transitional in nature .", + "PhD F : Right .", + "Grad A : Yeah .", + "PhD F : Cool . Great .", + "Grad A : So that 's {disfmarker} that 's it .", + "PhD F : Uh {disfmarker} OK .", + "Grad A : Yeah .", + "PhD F : Um {disfmarker} Let 's see , I haven't done a whole lot on anything related to this this week . I 've been focusing mainly on Meeting Recorder stuff .", + "PhD C : Oh .", + "PhD F : So , um , {vocalsound} I guess I 'll just pass it on to Dave .", + "Grad G : Uh , OK . Well , in my lunch talk last week I {disfmarker} I said I 'd tried phase normalization and gotten garbage results using that l um , long - term mean subtraction approach . It turned out there was a bug in my Matlab code . So I tried it again , um , and , um , the results {vocalsound} were {disfmarker} were better . I got intelligible speech back . But they still weren't as good as just subtracting the magnitude {disfmarker} the log magnitude means . And also I 've been talking to , um , Andreas and Thilo about the , um , SmartKom language model and about coming up with a good model for , um , far mike use of the SmartKom system . So I 'm gonna be working on , um , implementing this mean subtraction approach in the {vocalsound} far - mike system {disfmarker} for the SmartKom system , I mean . And , um , one of the experiments we 're gonna do is , um , we 're gonna , um , train the {disfmarker} a Broadcast News net , which is because that 's what we 've been using so far , and , um , adapt it on some other data . Um , An - Andreas wants to use , um , data that resembles read speech , like {pause} these digit readings , because he feels that the SmartKom system interaction is not gonna be exactly conversational .", + "PhD F : Mm - hmm .", + "Grad G : S so actually I was wondering , how long does it take to train that Broadcast News net ?", + "Professor B : The big one takes a while . Yeah . That takes two , three weeks .", + "Grad G : Two , three weeks .", + "Professor B : So {disfmarker} but , you know , uh , you can get {disfmarker} I don't know if you even want to run the big one , uh , um , in the {disfmarker} in the final system , cuz , you know , it takes a little while to run it . So , {vocalsound} um , you can scale it down by {disfmarker} I 'm sorry , it was two , three weeks for training up for the large Broadcast News test set {disfmarker} training set . I don't know how much you 'd be training on .", + "Grad G : Oh .", + "Professor B : The full ?", + "Grad G : OK .", + "Professor B : Uh , i so if you trained on half as much {vocalsound} and made the net , uh , uh , half as big , then it would be one fourth {pause} the amount of time", + "Grad G : OK .", + "Professor B : and it 'd be nearly as good . So .", + "Grad G : OK .", + "Professor B : Yeah . Also , I guess we had {disfmarker} we 've had these , uh , little di discussions {disfmarker} I guess you ha haven't had a chance to work with it too much {disfmarker} about {disfmarker} about , uh {disfmarker} uh , uh m other ways of taking care of the phase . So , I mean , I {disfmarker} I guess that was something I could say would be that we 've talked a little bit about", + "Grad G : Mm - hmm .", + "Professor B : you just doing it all with complex arithmetic and , uh {disfmarker} and not {disfmarker} not , uh , doing the polar representation with magnitude and phase . But {vocalsound} it looks like there 's ways that one could potentially just work with the complex numbers and {disfmarker} and {disfmarker} and in principle get rid of the {vocalsound} effects of the average complex spectrum . But {disfmarker}", + "Grad G : And , um , actually , regarding the phase normalization {disfmarker} So I did two experiments , and one is {disfmarker} So , phases get added , modulo two pi , and {disfmarker} because you only know the phase of the complex number t t to a value modulo two pi . And so I thought at first , um , that , uh , what I should do is unwrap the phase because that will undo that . Um , but I actually got worse results doing that unwrapping using the simple phase unwrapper that 's in Matlab than I did not unwrapping at all .", + "PhD D : Mm - hmm .", + "PhD F : Hmm .", + "Professor B : Yeah . P So .", + "Grad G : And that 's all I have to say .", + "PhD F : Hmm .", + "Professor B : Yeah . So I 'm {disfmarker} I 'm still hopeful that {disfmarker} that {disfmarker} I mean , we {disfmarker} we don't even know if the phase {vocalsound} is something {disfmarker} the average phase is something that we do want to remove . I mean , maybe there 's some deeper reason why it isn't the right thing to do . But , um , at least in principle it looks like there 's {disfmarker} there 's , uh , a couple potential ways to do it . One {disfmarker} one being to just work with the complex numbers , um , and , uh {disfmarker} in rectangular kind of coordinates . And the other is {vocalsound} to , uh , do a Taylor series {disfmarker} Well . So you work with the complex numbers and then when you get the spectrum {disfmarker} the average complex spectrum {disfmarker} um , actually divide it out , um , as opposed to taking the log and subtracting . So then , um , um , you know , there might be some numerical issues . We don't really know that . The other thing we talked a little bit about was Taylor series expansion . And , um , uh , actually I was talking to Dick Karp about it a little bit , and {disfmarker} and {disfmarker} and , since I got thinking about it , and {disfmarker} and , uh , so one thing is that y you 'd have to do , I think , uh {disfmarker} we may have to do this on a whiteboard , but I think you have to be a little careful about scaling the numbers that you 're {vocalsound} taking {disfmarker} the complex numbers that you 're taking the log of because {vocalsound} the Taylor expansion for it has , you know , a square and a cube , and {disfmarker} and so forth . And {disfmarker} and so if {disfmarker} {vocalsound} if you have a {disfmarker} a number that is modulus , you know , uh , very different from one {disfmarker} {vocalsound} It should be right around one , if it 's {disfmarker} cuz it 's a expansion of log one {disfmarker} one minus epsilon or o is {disfmarker} is {vocalsound} one plus epsilon , or is it one plus {disfmarker} ? Well , there 's an epsilon squared over two and an epsilon cubed over three ,", + "Grad G : OK .", + "Professor B : and so forth . So if epsilon is bigger than one , then it diverges .", + "Grad G : Oh .", + "Professor B : So you have to do some scaling . But that 's not a big deal cuz it 's the log of {disfmarker} {vocalsound} of K times a complex number , then you can just {disfmarker} that 's the same as log of K plus {vocalsound} log of the complex number .", + "Grad G : Oh .", + "Professor B : Uh , so there 's {disfmarker}", + "Grad G : OK .", + "Professor B : converges . But ." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "train", + "file_id": 18, + "turns": [ + 82, + 102 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "official commitments , Wales universities , transition period", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "A very large concern about the Wales universities' future was trying to maintain the funding and all the money around it. There were a lot of opportunities about how to be funding provided. It would be a terrible shame to lose some commitments with the UK Government and the money around the Brexit referendum that was looking at around \u00a315 million a year that would impact in a good way the employment opportunities and the people committed to those institutions. Unfortunately, the work was only guaranteed until 2020, however, the people involved were willing to go under those agreements, but the thing to remember was the whole number of apprentices in Wales and its importance to keep creating the best possible scenario for them.", + "title": "Commitments to Help Funding Universities", + "relevant_turns": [ + 0, + [ + 5, + 6 + ], + 8, + [ + 13, + 14 + ], + [ + 16, + 17 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "official commitments , Wales universities , transition period", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Maintain, range of learning opportunities, provided by EU funding; future shape of the economy, \u00a315 million a year, institutions, interested in revenue, employment opportunities, supports the staff, responsive to employers, skills in their areas; assurances that the apprenticeship programme; 2020, guarantee from the Government, transition deal or an agreement with the EU; risk, concern; commitment of the funding; institutions want to enter into agreements with providers.", + "title": "Commitments to Help Funding Universities", + "relevant_turns": [ + 0, + [ + 5, + 6 + ], + 8, + [ + 13, + 14 + ], + [ + 16, + 17 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "disagree , official commitments , Wales universities , transition period", + "speaker": "Eluned Morgan AM , Suzy Davies AM" + }, + "summary": "Suzy Davies AM said Welsh Government made multi-annual commitments and asked why it wasn't possible to be confident to get official commitments for both sectors. Eluned Morgan AM said it was easier to do with capital than it was with revenue because the institutions were interested in revenue as it supported the employment opportunities because people weren't living in the best conditions. Wales universities could be more responsive to employers.", + "title": "Institutions Interested in Revenue", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 5, + 8 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "short", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "disagree , official commitments , wales universities , transition period", + "speaker": "Eluned Morgan AM , Suzy Davies AM" + }, + "summary": "Suzy Davies AM, Welsh Government, multi-annual commitments, not, confident, both, sectors. Eluned Morgan AM, easier to do with capital than, with revenue; more, institutions, own funding.", + "title": "Institutions Interested in Revenue", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 5, + 8 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "disagree , official commitments , Wales universities , transition period", + "speaker": "Llyr Gruffydd AM , Eluned Morgan AM" + }, + "summary": "Llyr Gruffydd AM wondered if the apprenticeships program would be founded and delivered because the official commitments were until 2023, and asked to what extent that undermined the work. Eluned Morgan AM answered the commitments were fine until 2020 because there was a guarantee from the Government, but after the transition period there was a risk and concern if the Government disagreed to fund that, and mentioned how the number of apprenticeships in Wales universities was rising, while it had collapsed in England, so it was important to continue.", + "title": "Future Expectations for Official Commitments", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 13, + 18 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "fully", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "disagree , official commitments , wales universities , transition period", + "speaker": "Llyr Gruffydd AM , Eluned Morgan AM" + }, + "summary": "Llyr Gruffydd AM, funding of apprenticeships and the long-term funding, commitments, to 2023, beyond any transition period, assurances, the apprenticeship programme, delivered as a whole. Eluned Morgan AM, fine until 2020, guarantee from the Government, a risk, concern, beyond 2020, would create problems, don't agree to fund that. Llyr Gruffydd AM, prospect, wouldn't be achieved. Eluned Morgan AM, had the pledges and commitments from the Government, respect, what was expected by these institutions that have had the commitment of the funding. Llyr Gruffydd AM, to what extent, undermine the current work, institutions want to enter into agreements with providers and so on. Eluned Morgan AM, willing to go into those agreements, number of apprenticeships in Wales, rising; important, continue.", + "title": "Future Expectations for Official Commitments", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 13, + 18 + ] + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "Eluned Morgan AM : I think it is important. What we've said is that we want to maintain that range of learning opportunities that is provided by EU funding. I think we've got to be clear that we are not working to this scenario. I think we've got to\u2014. The UK Government have made us some promises and they've made some commitments, and we need to hold them to that, and so let's keep the pressure on. The moment we start saying, 'No, it's all going to be okay, we'll sort ourselves out'\u2014I think that would be a huge mistake. We have been promised that we will not lose a penny as a result of Brexit, and we need to make sure that we keep them to that commitment. I think it was quite interesting to hear what Philip Hammond said yesterday when he was in Wales, saying that the money that we will receive will depend on the future shape of the economy, which implies that he has no idea what's going to happen there, and that that shared prosperity fund will be designed around the deal. Well, that's really not what we're interested in. We were made some promises, and we need them to commit to those promises. I think we have some real concerns about the shared prosperity fund not really following through on the commitments that were made during the Brexit referendum. But, in terms of the replacements, we'd be looking at about \u00a315 million a year, and that would be a huge impact for us, but we're not looking at that\u2014I don't think we should be\u2014because they made some promises.", + "John Griffiths AM : So, could you say that, if they keep their promises, then at least that level of funding would be maintained?", + "Eluned Morgan AM : I think that would be a minimum, but that's just one aspect of it. That's not including the whole workplace learning money on top of that.", + "John Griffiths AM : Okay.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : Thank you. Suzy, you had a supplementary.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Yes, just very quickly on the multi-annual point, obviously I recognise that we're talking about six or seven-year cycles with Europe, and I completely take the point that you don't really know from year to year what your budget's going to be, but Welsh Government does make multi-annual commitments. I think you did it yesterday, actually\u2014the capital commitment is over more than one year. How are you able to do that and yet not quite feel confident that you can do that with\u2014well, both your sectors, really?", + "Eluned Morgan AM : I think it's probably easier to do with capital than it is with revenue, so that's what would make the difference. But it's\u2014. These institutions are interested in revenue, because that's what supports the staff. The one thing we all know is that employment opportunities today\u2014the transitional nature of employment and the fact that people are not getting the kind of contracts that we'd like them to get\u2014that makes their lives very precarious and they're less likely, then, to be committed to those institutions. I think it's a really, really concerning thing, because what makes these institutions work well is their staff, so that makes life very, very difficult without that multi-annual commitment.", + "Suzy Davies AM : They also have to raise some of their own money as well\u2014we mustn't forget that.", + "Eluned Morgan AM : No, I think that's right, and I think that there's more that these institutions can do in terms of their own funding and being more responsive to employers and the need for skills in their areas.", + "Suzy Davies AM : Okay, thank you. Thank you, Chair.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : So, given the precarious state of planning for the finances, are you considering letting universities charge EU students international fees?", + "Kirsty Williams AM : We don't regulate the ability for universities to set fees for international students. They would be in a position to\u2014[Inaudible.] They are in a position to set international fees at a rate that, I guess, they feel is appropriate for the provision that they give to those students.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : Okay, right. We'll move on, then, to questions from Llyr.", + "Llyr Gruffydd AM : Thank you. I just wanted to pick up on the funding of apprenticeships and the long-term funding, because the ESF\u2014the commitments take us to 2023, which takes us beyond any transition period. So, I just want to hear from you that there are assurances that the apprenticeship programme can be delivered as a whole, come what may.", + "Eluned Morgan AM : Well, we're fine until 2020, because we've had that guarantee from the Government. The issue for us is the n+2 that we would have if we do have some kind of transition deal or an agreement with the EU. So, there is a risk and there is concern, beyond 2020, that that would create problems if they don't agree to fund that, which is the expectation that we have.", + "Llyr Gruffydd AM : But it is a prospect that this wouldn't be achieved as you foresee.", + "Eluned Morgan AM : Well, we do hope, because we've had the pledges and commitments from the Government, that they will respect what we expected and what was expected by these institutions that have had the commitment of the funding.", + "Llyr Gruffydd AM : So, to what extent does that undermine the current work? Because institutions want to enter into agreements with providers and so on. Businesses want to know, if they're starting on some sort of journey, that they are going to get to the end of it some years down the line. That must be undermining a lot of the work that's going on now.", + "Eluned Morgan AM : Well, as I said, because the guarantee is there until 2020, I think that, for now, people are willing to go into those agreements, and I hope that we'll have a better outlook by November of the direction we're moving in. But I don't think it's had an impact. You have to remember that the number of apprenticeships in Wales is rising, while they've collapsed entirely in England. So, it is important that we do continue, and it's important that we don't create an atmosphere here that's going to undermine the confidence of our employers in committing to training in the workplace.", + "Llyr Gruffydd AM : Are you confident that the Government will achieve its targets in this context?", + "Eluned Morgan AM : Yes. We're on target to reach 100,000 apprenticeships. I think we're slightly ahead of that target, I'm pleased to say. So, of course, our hope is to do that. But let's be clear: if there is a 'no deal' scenario, that will have an impact on the economy, and who knows what will happen then to some of these companies that are reliant on the EU." + ] + }, + { + "metadata": { + "dataset": "qmsum", + "split": "train", + "file_id": 20, + "turns": [ + 438, + 646 + ] + }, + "references": [ + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "fluorescent button , remote control", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "The team set out to find a way to light up the buttons on the remote control. The options brought up were to incorporate a fluorescent button on the remote control or use a glow-in-the-dark material. The idea of the fluorescent button had limits because of the amount of battery it would consume to which the idea of a self-timing light came up. The glow in the dark option had cost as an advantage but lacked aesthetic value as its colors would probably not go well with the colors of the faceplates. The team chose the option of self-timed light where the lights turn on upon touching the remote control and stay on for about five seconds before going off", + "title": "Options for Lighting up the Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 0, + 6 + ], + [ + 23, + 85 + ], + [ + 103, + 133 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "fluorescent button , remote control", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "Suggestions were brought up on how to light up the remote control in the dark. The incorporation of a fluorescent button and the use of a glow-in-the-dark material for the buttons were the considered options. The idea of a fluorescent button would increase the battery consumption of the device. To combat this challenge, the idea of incorporating a self-timed light into the remote control came up. The self-timed light was also modified to work upon touching any button on the remote control in order to meet the aim of minimizing the buttons.", + "title": "Options for Lighting up the Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 0, + 6 + ], + [ + 23, + 85 + ], + [ + 103, + 133 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "fluorescent buttons , humanitarian design , product", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "With the knowledge that fluorescent lights lost their brightness after a certain time and the fact that the presence or absence of the glow-in-the-dark or light-up made no difference to the visually impaired, more tactile features like bigger buttons, embossed numbers, and arrows, or buttons in the shape of numbers and arrows, were suggested to be incorporated to make the remote available to everybody. Also, the material suggested for the buttons would cater to people with Repetitive strain injury.", + "title": "Tactile Features for Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 12, + 19 + ], + [ + 28, + 35 + ], + [ + 85, + 94 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "fluorescent buttons , humanitarian design , product", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "User Interface said that fluorescent lights lost their brightness after a certain time and the fact that the presence or absence of the glow-in-the-dark or light-up made no difference to the visually impaired, also that numbers usually wore off if they were just painted or printed on the buttons. More tactile features like bigger buttons, embossed numbers, and arrows, or buttons in the shape of numbers and arrows, were suggested to be incorporated to make the remote available to everybody. Also, the material suggested for the buttons would be softer rubber material instead of hard buttons in order to cater to people with repetitive strain injury.", + "title": "Tactile Features for Remote Control", + "relevant_turns": [ + 106, + [ + 12, + 19 + ], + [ + 28, + 35 + ], + [ + 85, + 102 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "personalization , not so feasible", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "The product could be personalized by incorporating different colors of interchangeable faceplates into the design. The plates could be made to advertise certain TV programs. However, the idea of advertising certain TV programs had the potential of causing copyright problems", + "title": "Personalization Idea for Product", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 144, + 184 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "long", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "personalization , not so feasible", + "speaker": "" + }, + "summary": "The idea for personalization was to incorporate interchangeably faceplates like iPods or cell phone covers. The cost of production would be bearable since it would require using one mould and pouring plastic in it. The interchangeable covers could also be a source of extra income since they could be used to advertise certain TV programs. However, in order to use the interchangeable covers for advertizing certain TV programs, possible problems may arise from copyrights. 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The lights would come on upon touching any button and stay on for about ten seconds then go off. This would solve the problem of high battery power consumption by the lights.", + "title": "Power Saving Lighting up Option", + "relevant_turns": [ + 23, + [ + 50, + 78 + ] + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "Project Manager : alright ? Great . Um , alright , and I'm sure that , um um , the glow-in-the-dark , fluorescent , whatever , system , um is a go ahead . Is everyone interested in that ?", + "Industrial Designer : Y", + "Marketing : On the buttons ?", + "User Interface : I I like the light up suggestion . I think that would be better .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : 'Cause you know the way fluorescent lights lose their brightness after certain time , so", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah . Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : {gap} it doesn't {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : I would go for {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : It could it could be a tactile thing as well . Um right , if w if we're minimising buttons , we might be able to make them actually larger . And there's something on it . S you know like up arrow down arrow for , for volume .", + "Industrial Designer : Like a raised {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Um , and I don't know what we could do for , for channels . S", + "User Interface : Well just the numbers could be embossed , couldn't it ? Like raised .", + "Marketing : The numbers themselves .", + "User Interface : Yeah . Could be raised .", + "Marketing : But then the like up button and down button for the channel , channel changing .", + "User Interface : Just little arrows , that you could feel , maybe ?", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Hmm .", + "Marketing : I just thought that {gap} it , it might be sucking more battery power , if there , if it is a light up . I'm not sure .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : That's true .", + "Project Manager : But I mean {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : And also y , uh Heather you mentioned before , um like how it should be accessible to everybody .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Um , so like big b um buttons , {gap} for people you are visually impaired . The glow-in-the-dark or light up won't make any difference anyway .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : So like you say tactile might be better , because it'd be more available to everybody .", + "User Interface : That , I think that's good , yeah .", + "Project Manager : Yeah . Could we somehow {disfmarker} We could , may , possibly , sorry , incorporate them both so that the buttons could maybe be in the shape of the numbers themselves and be made out of some glow-in-the-dark material .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah . Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Mm-hmm .", + "Project Manager : 'Cause I d I don't think that glow-in-the-dark material , um , like the actual soft plastic , um , costs that much more than other colours .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : No , it's not these days .", + "User Interface : No , I wouldn't say so .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : I mean , it's quite easily accessible .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Marketing : I guess the other option , referring to the battery thing is , you know how cellphones will t light up for fifteen seconds or something , when you're s and then it goes ,", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah . Yeah .", + "User Interface : That's good {disfmarker} Yeah that a good idea .", + "Marketing : so if , if you're like changing the volume during a movie . I know , I'm thinking of mostly when you're watching a movie you turn all the lights off right .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah . Yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Marketing : And you don't want to turn on the lights , {vocalsound} to turn it down , because there's suddenly an explosion , and it's gonna wake up the baby .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} Yeah .", + "Marketing : Um , so if you touch the button , it kind of reactivates it .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : It lights up for {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "User Interface : That , yeah , that's a good idea .", + "Marketing : On self timer .", + "Industrial Designer : So self-timed lighting .", + "Project Manager : Alright we have five minutes left", + "Marketing : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Um , I {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : um , for the meeting , but I think we should discuss this light subject a little bit more before we close . Um , what was {disfmarker} I missed the last moment , reading that . What were you talking about with the lighting up buttons ?", + "Marketing : Oh , just if it was kinda the same way that a cell You know how a cellphone will light up for about ten , fifteen seconds when you touch a button , after having not touched it for a while .", + "Project Manager : Yeah . Yeah .", + "Marketing : Um , if instead of a constant light up on the , on the remote control , if it lights up for ten seconds when it's touched again .", + "Project Manager : Mm . So it could be any button that would be pressed .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Yeah , and you , you touch it and it just kind of lights up a bit , and it gives a faint glow .", + "Industrial Designer : So , self-timed {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : So if you have all the lights off in your living room , you'll , you'll temporarily see it .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Because usually you're not fooling around for it for more than what ten seconds .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Okay , so {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Marketing : So {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : That's probably feasible .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : So , do you think that we should do the lighting up thing , and the glow-in-the-dark thing , and the shape of the numbers ? Do we have to kind of decide what we're gonna do with this .", + "Industrial Designer : I think the shape of the numbers is a really good idea .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Project Manager : Yeah , okay .", + "Industrial Designer : And I think that's un unique as well .", + "User Interface : Yeah . For visually impaired , yeah .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : I mean , I haven't seen that . And as you're saying like numbers can wear off if they're just sort of like painted on , you know printed .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Project Manager : Yeah , yeah . And it could {gap} , if it's that softer rubber material it'll be , maybe , um , uh , better for people with um els no", + "Industrial Designer : {gap} durable .", + "Project Manager : what's it called , R_S_I_ , what was it that we were talking about ?", + "Industrial Designer : Oh yeah . Yeah . Yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Oh right , the {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Yeah instead of like hard buttons .", + "Industrial Designer : Repetitive strain injury .", + "Project Manager : Okay . Um , did we want to go for the glow-in-the-dark look ?", + "Industrial Designer : Mm-hmm .", + "Project Manager : Or did we want to go for the lighting up instantly ?", + "User Interface : If {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Like should we do both ? Or we can have one or the other ? Because it might , for , for our design purposes , I mean , the lighting up thing might be better because glow-in-the-dark material has a funny kinda colour .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Project Manager : And it might not go with different like face plates that we might come up with .", + "Marketing : I was gonna say , {gap}", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Exactly . It the {disfmarker} it might be perceived as tacky , glow-in-the-dark .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "Marketing : It's kind of like Eighties neon-style .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , and we could {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Um , whereas we're trying to be trendy and fashionable .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah there are now like loads , or a huge range of different colours that it could light up in as well ,", + "Marketing : So {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : which could like link in with the company colours . Like it could be blue or green or yellow ,", + "User Interface : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Right .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Industrial Designer : or like we've just limited t with the , just ordinary phosphorescent so {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Right . Alright . So we've decided on lighting up things .", + "User Interface : I was thinking though , if it was glow-in-the-dark , you could put the um Real Reaction symbol as glow-in-the-dark , and then it would be constantly advertised .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah . Every time the , that it lit up , you c that could light up as well .", + "Marketing : Mm .", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Or , or the , whate", + "Project Manager : Yeah .", + "User Interface : {gap} Yeah .", + "Project Manager : But with the same thing , I mean . If you touch the button and then it could be , it could be lit up as well .", + "Marketing : That's true .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "User Interface : Yeah . Okay .", + "Project Manager : Is {disfmarker} Are you okay with that ? Okay . Cool .", + "User Interface : Yeah . {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Um {disfmarker} Alright . So I think that um that completes most of our um our more uh practical decisions .", + "Industrial Designer : Is {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : And now it's up to designing . And um making sure that this can be feasible . And do you have anything {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : What um {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Do you have anything to say ? {vocalsound}", + "Marketing : Oh sorry . Yeah well , I was just gonna throw out there the thought about um personalising the remote control . Um , it , you , 'cause you mentioned face plates . So I I dunno if there's something that diff , you know like five different face plates . I dunno if this will start making it more complicated , but it could increase the popularity of the , of the remote . Um", + "Industrial Designer : Okay . Like you can have changeable um mobile covers or something .", + "User Interface : Oh yeah . Interchangeable thing ?", + "Marketing : Yeah , {gap} {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Like an iPod or something ?", + "User Interface : That would be good .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah , or {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Exactly , like an iPod .", + "Project Manager : Okay .", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Exactly .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay .", + "Marketing : Or , or like mobile ph .", + "Project Manager : Like a cellphone ? Yeah .", + "Marketing : And I dunno if we'd want to go with like T_V_ show themes or something . Like a Bart Simpson faceplate .", + "User Interface : Yeah , and then that would be uh more profitable like as a sideline to the remote as well .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound} But {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : {gap} Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Mm-hmm .", + "User Interface : Y Could buy extra {disfmarker}", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Project Manager : Accessories .", + "Marketing : Exactly . You could start out with three , and if , if we hit it big then we can add some on .", + "Industrial Designer : Person {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : Yeah .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah . Well , that's great .", + "User Interface : That's a good idea . Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Yeah . I think that we should incorporate that .", + "Industrial Designer : Interchangeable .", + "Project Manager : 'Cause that wouldn't be very expensive at all .", + "Industrial Designer : Um , als", + "Project Manager : You'd just get one mould ,", + "User Interface : No .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Marketing : Mm-hmm .", + "Project Manager : throw some plastic in it , you know . {vocalsound}", + "Industrial Designer : Interchan And also possible {disfmarker} I mean , uh , we could gain out of that by advertising certain T_V_ shows , or {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Yeah . Well , that might be com problematic with um copyright issues .", + "User Interface : Oh yeah .", + "Marketing : Right .", + "Project Manager : So , if it takes off then we'll , we'll , we'll try that out .", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah . But if we , there is {disfmarker}", + "User Interface : If w", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah . We could {disfmarker} Um , the environmental factor , we didn't bring that up again .", + "Project Manager : Right .", + "Marketing : Right .", + "Project Manager : We'll have to do more research . Like as of yet , that has nothing to do with , um , the way it'll look . Um , does it need to be reached a de", + "Industrial Designer : Yeah .", + "Project Manager : Do we need to reach a decision on that right now ?", + "Industrial Designer : Um , I've {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Because we need to investigate the financial implications .", + "Industrial Designer : Okay .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Okay . Is it {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : Let's {disfmarker}", + "Project Manager : Does it need to be uh decided on now ? Or should we {disfmarker}", + "Industrial Designer : I think we could probably leave that 'til later on , then .", + "Project Manager : Okay . Good . Alright then . Anyone else have anything more to say before we close ?", + "User Interface : No .", + "Industrial Designer : No .", + "Project Manager : Alright , well . Let's have lunch and we'll discuss this later .", + "User Interface : {vocalsound} Okay .", + "Marketing : {vocalsound}", + "Project Manager : Alright ?", + "Industrial Designer : Okay . 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Wales had one high-tariff university that showed the growth of recruitment. Williams disagreed only high-tariff institutions would be successful.", + "title": "Different Points of View on How Tariff Influence", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 9, + 10 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "high", + "topic": "subject of disagreement , Wales universities", + "speaker": "Kirsty Williams AM , Hefin David AM" + }, + "summary": "High-tariff universities were the only ones showing growth in recruitment of EU students, said Helfin. Wales higher educational system was way too imbalanced and only offered one high-tariff institution. Williams argued there were differences in institutions' exposure.", + "title": "Differences in Institution's Exposure to EU and International Students", + "relevant_turns": [ + [ + 9, + 10 + ] + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "normal", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "Swansea University , admission problems , corresponding solutions", + "speaker": "Kirsty Williams" + }, + "summary": "According to Kirsty Williams' thought, Swansea University showed what was possible to achieve success and was an example of the sector. Showed that a combination of getting offers right, namely, high-quality ratings for teaching, preparing and delivering a curriculum, and courses that were attractive to people were the key.", + "title": "Admission Growth Factors", + "relevant_turns": [ + 10, + 12, + 14 + ] + }, + { + "control_attribute": { + "length": "normal", + "extractiveness": "high", + "specificity": "normal", + "topic": "Swansea University , admission problems , corresponding solutions", + "speaker": "Kirsty Williams" + }, + "summary": "Williams expressed that what Swansea University did showed what was possible. It was a combination of getting the offer right. Having a curriculum that was attractive and offered courses people wanted to study. A high-quality rating for teaching was about getting the offer right. Swansea was an example in the sector.", + "title": "Swansea University as an Example", + "relevant_turns": [ + 10, + 12, + 14 + ] + } + ], + "source": [ + "Lynne Neagle AM : Okay, thank you. We're going to move on, then, to talk about student recruitment. I'm going to, because we've got a lot of questions, appeal for brief questions and answers that are as concise as possible, please. Hefin.", + "Hefin David AM : How does the Welsh Government account for the fact that EU student applications in Wales this year\u2014that Wales is the only country in the UK to have seen a significant drop?", + "Kirsty Williams AM : Okay, well, I think the first thing to remember is that we will not get a full picture of student recruitment until, first of all, November and then the true picture, because some institutions, as you would know, have two admissions dates\u2014we won't get the full picture until the spring. I think it was inevitable, given the change in Government policy with regard to student support, which had previously allowed European students to benefit from a tuition fee grant, and given the fact that that option is no longer available to them, that that has had an impact on EU recruitment, and there's no point trying to hide from that.", + "Hefin David AM : So, together with leaving the EU, that's a double-whammy effect that's hitting Wales harder than the rest of the UK.", + "Kirsty Williams AM : It just puts us in the same position as EU students applying to England, but it was inevitable. This was looked at by Diamond. It was anticipated that this could be a consequence of the change in policy, and I think we see that reflected in the initial figure, although, as I said, we won't get the true picture until the first census in November, and then, ultimately, the final picture in the spring.", + "Hefin David AM : How concerned are you by that?", + "Kirsty Williams AM : Clearly, we want our universities to be able to attract students from both the EU and from around the world. The fact that the tuition fee grant arrangements may have had an impact on European Union students at this stage does not preclude the fact that Wales, up until now, has been successful in recruiting international students. So, the change in the fee regime should not be a barrier to the recruitment of international students, because, actually, international students outside of the EU make up a bigger proportion of students not from the UK who come to our institutions.", + "Hefin David AM : That's a fair point, but it's unfortunate timing, though, isn't it?", + "Kirsty Williams AM : I think, from a public policy point of view and moving towards a sustainable way of funding our HE sector, then both my priority and, I would say, the priority of the institutions was to see the implementation of Diamond, which is what we have done.", + "Hefin David AM : Okay, that's fine. What about the fact that we've got a relatively imbalanced higher education profile compared to other countries of the UK with regard to high, medium and low-tariff universities? We've got one high-tariff university, and they're the ones that tend to show the growth in recruitment of EU students. Are you concerned about that balance of profile in the HE sector?", + "Kirsty Williams AM : As I said in answer to your question earlier, there is a difference reflected in the exposure of institutions to EU and international students. I would argue that it's not necessarily the case that institutions that are not high-tariff are not able to do very well in this sector.\u00a0If you look, for instance, at Swansea University\u2014if you look at the work Swansea\u00a0University has done, that shows you what is possible.", + "Hefin David AM : What is Swansea's success, then? What can we learn from Swansea?", + "Kirsty Williams AM : What I think is important\u2014and this is not about any one institution\u2014what I think is really important is that we look to\u2014. And I can't force institutions\u00a0to do this. It's a combination, I believe, for all universities, of getting their offer right\u2014so, having a curriculum at their institution that is attractive and offers courses that people want to study. It's about that curriculum being delivered in an excellent fashion, so high quality\u00a0ratings for teaching, as well as having an infrastructure\u00a0that is attractive to students. So, it's all about getting the offer right and providing what students, both domestically and internationally, want.", + "Hefin David AM : But the evidence would therefore suggest that that model of success that you've just outlined is happening in Swansea but it isn't happening in other institutions, and they're seeing a drop.", + "Kirsty Williams AM : Well, as I said, I think what we can see from Cardiff, Swansea and others is that it is possible to do very well in the sector.", + "Hefin David AM : So, Cardiff, Swansea and Bangor\u2014but the others, not.", + "Kirsty Williams AM : As I said, what we can see is that, if you get the offer right, I think we have something very special that the HE sector can market itself on.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : Llyr, you've got a supplementary.", + "Llyr Gruffydd AM : Just coming back to the drop in EU students, you mentioned that one of the reasons probably is the change in the funding that's available to students coming here. So, does that suggest that, under the current regime, Wales was punching above its weight in terms of attracting students and we've lost that advantage? I know we're gaining in other ways in introducing\u00a0the new system, but really we're not much different to England in terms of fees now, so why would they come to Wales as opposed to going anywhere else?", + "Kirsty Williams AM : I think you're right; there was an added incentive, potentially, to come to a Welsh\u00a0institution because\u00a0of the availability of the tuition\u00a0fee grant. That advantage is no longer there, which is why we need to work alongside the sector, as we're doing with the Global Wales programme, to increase their ability to market HE in the round across the world. I think we've got a strong offer that we can speak to people about. I'm very proud of what our institutions can deliver for people. It's a fantastic, warm environment to come and study in, at great institutions. There's something for everybody, whether you want to be in a city like Cardiff or whether you want a coastal experience in a small town like Aber. So, we've got a lot to offer and that's why it's really important that, although we have seen a change in the tuition\u00a0fees, which may have an impact, we are investing with universities, for instance, in the Global Wales programme.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : In terms of the drop that we've seen in Wales, which is differential amongst\u00a0institutions, will you be taking any specific action to try and prevent Brexit exacerbating\u00a0that?", + "Kirsty Williams AM : We are working with HEFCW and individual\u00a0institutions, as I said, to test their preparedness. We can't tell them what to do in that sense, but we can, because of our governance arrangements and HEFCW's monitoring arrangements, continue to test with them. I meet regularly\u00a0with vice-chancellors and separately\u00a0with the chairs of the institutions and separately\u00a0again with HEFCW representatives, and the sustainability\u00a0of the sector and recruitment issues is always something that is on the agenda.", + "Lynne Neagle AM : Thank you. Julie." + ] + } +] \ No newline at end of file