3y4HOEznm1g-00000-00000077-00000412 fly from San Jose in the heart of 3y4HOEznm1g-00001-00000413-00000778 Silicon Valley it's accused covering did 3y4HOEznm1g-00002-00000779-00001035 it work summit 2017 brought to you by 3y4HOEznm1g-00003-00001036-00001539 Hortonworks 3y4HOEznm1g-00004-00001540-00001768 hey welcome back to the queue we are 3y4HOEznm1g-00005-00001769-00002089 live on day one of the data work summit 3y4HOEznm1g-00006-00002090-00002278 in the heart of Silicon Valley I am Lisa 3y4HOEznm1g-00007-00002279-00002485 Martin with my co-host Peter Burris not 3y4HOEznm1g-00008-00002486-00002680 only is this day one of the data work 3y4HOEznm1g-00009-00002681-00002910 summit this is the day after the Golden 3y4HOEznm1g-00010-00002911-00003114 State Warriors won the NBA championship 3y4HOEznm1g-00011-00003115-00003433 please welcome our next guest the CTO of 3y4HOEznm1g-00012-00003434-00003790 Delhi MC village marzo and cube alumni 3y4HOEznm1g-00013-00003790-00004111 clearly sporting the pride did they win 3y4HOEznm1g-00014-00004112-00004416 I don't remember is really breaking news 3y4HOEznm1g-00015-00004417-00004699 bill it's great to have you back on the 3y4HOEznm1g-00016-00004700-00004921 cube and as your three all-american from 3y4HOEznm1g-00017-00004922-00005191 what coal college 7 yeah yeah 3y4HOEznm1g-00018-00005192-00005468 they still had the peach basket you make 3y4HOEznm1g-00019-00005469-00005841 my report on going rogue on for the game 3y4HOEznm1g-00020-00005842-00006181 alright so and before we started they 3y4HOEznm1g-00021-00006182-00006339 were analyzing game it was actually 3y4HOEznm1g-00022-00006340-00006595 really interesting but kick things off 3y4HOEznm1g-00023-00006595-00006856 bill as as the the volume and the 3y4HOEznm1g-00024-00006856-00007095 variety and the velocity of data are 3y4HOEznm1g-00025-00007097-00007314 changing organizations know there's a 3y4HOEznm1g-00026-00007315-00007503 tremendous amount of transformational 3y4HOEznm1g-00027-00007504-00007801 value in this data how is Delhi and C 3y4HOEznm1g-00028-00007802-00008101 helping enterprises extract and maximize 3y4HOEznm1g-00029-00008102-00008305 that as the economic value of data is 3y4HOEznm1g-00030-00008306-00008569 changing so the the thing that we find 3y4HOEznm1g-00031-00008570-00008974 is most relevant is most of our 3y4HOEznm1g-00032-00008975-00009181 customers don't give a hoot about the 3y4HOEznm1g-00033-00009182-00009382 three visa big data fish in the business 3y4HOEznm1g-00034-00009383-00009601 side we like to jokingly say they care 3y4HOEznm1g-00035-00009602-00009829 about the four M's of big data make me 3y4HOEznm1g-00036-00009830-00010045 more money so when you think about 3y4HOEznm1g-00037-00010046-00010255 digital transformation and how am I 3y4HOEznm1g-00038-00010256-00010432 taking an organization from where they 3y4HOEznm1g-00039-00010433-00010708 are today to sort of embed digital 3y4HOEznm1g-00040-00010709-00010870 capabilities around data and analytics 3y4HOEznm1g-00041-00010871-00011050 it's really around how do I make more 3y4HOEznm1g-00042-00011051-00011272 money and what processes can I eliminate 3y4HOEznm1g-00043-00011273-00011476 or reduce how do i improve my ability to 3y4HOEznm1g-00044-00011477-00011719 market and reach customers how do I you 3y4HOEznm1g-00045-00011720-00011851 know all the things that are designed to 3y4HOEznm1g-00046-00011852-00012058 drive value from the from a value 3y4HOEznm1g-00047-00012059-00012241 perspective go back to you know Tom 3y4HOEznm1g-00048-00012242-00012517 Peters kind of thinking right and Mike 3y4HOEznm1g-00049-00012518-00012664 is Michael Porter right his value 3y4HOEznm1g-00050-00012665-00012933 creation processes so we find that when 3y4HOEznm1g-00051-00012934-00013171 we have a conversation around the 3y4HOEznm1g-00052-00013172-00013357 business and what the business is trying 3y4HOEznm1g-00053-00013358-00013621 to accomplish that provides the 3y4HOEznm1g-00054-00013622-00013846 framework around which to have this 3y4HOEznm1g-00055-00013847-00014130 digital transformation conversation so 3y4HOEznm1g-00056-00014131-00014322 well built attaching the volume velocity 3y4HOEznm1g-00057-00014324-00014665 variety 3 vs really say something about 3y4HOEznm1g-00058-00014666-00014853 the value of the interest 3y4HOEznm1g-00059-00014854-00015039 we don't have infrastructure in place 3y4HOEznm1g-00060-00015040-00015186 where you can get more volume it can 3y4HOEznm1g-00061-00015187-00015358 move faster and you can handle more 3y4HOEznm1g-00062-00015359-00015564 variety but fundamentally it is still a 3y4HOEznm1g-00063-00015565-00015855 statement about the underlying value of 3y4HOEznm1g-00064-00015856-00015969 the infrastructure the tooling 3y4HOEznm1g-00065-00015970-00016275 associated with the data true but one of 3y4HOEznm1g-00066-00016276-00016492 the things it's changes is not all 3y4HOEznm1g-00067-00016493-00016705 data's of equal value absolutely right 3y4HOEznm1g-00068-00016706-00017055 so what data what technology say do I 3y4HOEznm1g-00069-00017056-00017211 need to have spark oh I don't know we 3y4HOEznm1g-00070-00017212-00017380 kind of do I don't even have Kafka or 3y4HOEznm1g-00071-00017381-00017544 iota right I need to have these things 3y4HOEznm1g-00072-00017545-00017730 well if I don't know what I'm trying to 3y4HOEznm1g-00073-00017731-00017925 do that I don't have a way to value the 3y4HOEznm1g-00074-00017926-00018087 data and I don't have a way to figure 3y4HOEznm1g-00075-00018088-00018234 out and prioritize my investment in the 3y4HOEznm1g-00076-00018235-00018387 infrastructure so that's what I want to 3y4HOEznm1g-00077-00018388-00018690 come to so that the that increasingly 3y4HOEznm1g-00078-00018691-00018969 what business executives at least once 3y4HOEznm1g-00079-00018970-00019095 what we're talking to all the time are 3y4HOEznm1g-00080-00019096-00019333 you know make me more money right but it 3y4HOEznm1g-00081-00019334-00019542 really is what is the value of my data 3y4HOEznm1g-00082-00019543-00019743 and how do I start pricing data and how 3y4HOEznm1g-00083-00019744-00019905 do I started thinking about investing so 3y4HOEznm1g-00084-00019906-00020043 that today's data can be valuable 3y4HOEznm1g-00085-00020044-00020289 tomorrow or the data that's not going to 3y4HOEznm1g-00086-00020290-00020472 be by tomorrow I can find some other way 3y4HOEznm1g-00087-00020473-00020700 to you know not spend money on it better 3y4HOEznm1g-00088-00020701-00020875 that's different from the variety of 3y4HOEznm1g-00089-00020876-00021186 velocity of volume statement which is 3y4HOEznm1g-00090-00021187-00021342 all about the infrastructure hey man 3y4HOEznm1g-00091-00021343-00021496 what an IT guy might be worried about 3y4HOEznm1g-00092-00021497-00021724 so talk you've done a lot of work on 3y4HOEznm1g-00093-00021725-00021897 data value you've done a lot of work of 3y4HOEznm1g-00094-00021898-00022071 data value we've coincide a couple times 3y4HOEznm1g-00095-00022072-00022347 let's pick that notion up of you know 3y4HOEznm1g-00096-00022348-00022662 digital transformation is all about what 3y4HOEznm1g-00097-00022663-00022917 you do with your data it's yeah what are 3y4HOEznm1g-00098-00022918-00023067 you seeing in your clients as they start 3y4HOEznm1g-00099-00023068-00023214 thinking this through well I think one 3y4HOEznm1g-00100-00023215-00023377 of the first times I sort of aha moment 3y4HOEznm1g-00101-00023378-00023521 to me was when I had a conversation with 3y4HOEznm1g-00102-00023522-00023700 you about Adam Smith and a difference 3y4HOEznm1g-00103-00023701-00023886 between value in exchange versus value 3y4HOEznm1g-00104-00023887-00024108 in use a lot of people in think about 3y4HOEznm1g-00105-00024109-00024289 monetization how do i monetize my data 3y4HOEznm1g-00106-00024290-00024442 are thinking about value in exchange 3y4HOEznm1g-00107-00024443-00024696 what is my data worth to somebody else 3y4HOEznm1g-00108-00024697-00024861 well most people's data isn't worth 3y4HOEznm1g-00109-00024862-00025047 anything anybody else and the way that 3y4HOEznm1g-00110-00025048-00025218 you can really drive value is not data 3y4HOEznm1g-00111-00025219-00025458 in exchange or value in exchange but its 3y4HOEznm1g-00112-00025459-00025671 value in use how am I using that data to 3y4HOEznm1g-00113-00025672-00025869 make better decisions regarding customer 3y4HOEznm1g-00114-00025870-00026008 acquisition and customer retention and 3y4HOEznm1g-00115-00026008-00026131 predictive maintenance and quality of 3y4HOEznm1g-00116-00026132-00026343 care and all the other doodles of 3y4HOEznm1g-00117-00026344-00026565 decisions organizations are making it's 3y4HOEznm1g-00118-00026566-00026814 it's the valuation of that data comes 3y4HOEznm1g-00119-00026815-00027015 from putting into use to make better 3y4HOEznm1g-00120-00027016-00027424 decisions if I know then what what what 3y4HOEznm1g-00121-00027425-00027601 decision I'm trying to make now I have a 3y4HOEznm1g-00122-00027602-00027781 process now I decide and what data is 3y4HOEznm1g-00123-00027782-00027955 most valuable but as you said earlier 3y4HOEznm1g-00124-00027956-00028143 what data is not important 3y4HOEznm1g-00125-00028144-00028383 but may have liability issues with it 3y4HOEznm1g-00126-00028383-00028595 right do I keep a data set around that 3y4HOEznm1g-00127-00028597-00028788 might be valuable but if it falls into 3y4HOEznm1g-00128-00028789-00028941 the wrong hands through cybersecurity 3y4HOEznm1g-00129-00028942-00029183 sort of things do I actually myself up 3y4HOEznm1g-00130-00029185-00029373 to all kinds of liabilities and so 3y4HOEznm1g-00131-00029374-00029511 organizations are rustling from this 3y4HOEznm1g-00132-00029512-00029775 restless EVD conversation not only from 3y4HOEznm1g-00133-00029776-00029994 a data valuation perspective but also 3y4HOEznm1g-00134-00029995-00030158 from a risk perspective because you got 3y4HOEznm1g-00135-00030160-00030389 to balance those two aspects but this is 3y4HOEznm1g-00136-00030391-00030537 not a pure that's not really doing an 3y4HOEznm1g-00137-00030538-00030675 accounting in a traditional accounting 3y4HOEznm1g-00138-00030676-00030837 sense we're not doing a we're not doing 3y4HOEznm1g-00139-00030838-00031052 a you know double entry bookkeeping with 3y4HOEznm1g-00140-00031054-00031227 data but we're really talking about is 3y4HOEznm1g-00141-00031227-00031497 understand how your business uses data 3y4HOEznm1g-00142-00031498-00031770 number one today understand how you 3y4HOEznm1g-00143-00031770-00031938 think you want your business to be able 3y4HOEznm1g-00144-00031939-00032166 to use data to become a more digital 3y4HOEznm1g-00145-00032167-00032406 corporation - and then understand how 3y4HOEznm1g-00146-00032407-00032649 you go from point A to point B correct 3y4HOEznm1g-00147-00032650-00032979 yes and in fact the underlying premise 3y4HOEznm1g-00148-00032980-00033198 behind driving economic value of data 3y4HOEznm1g-00149-00033199-00033465 now people say data is the new oil well 3y4HOEznm1g-00150-00033466-00033654 that's a BS statement because it really 3y4HOEznm1g-00151-00033655-00033897 misses the point the point is imagine if 3y4HOEznm1g-00152-00033898-00034116 you had a barrel of oil a single barrel 3y4HOEznm1g-00153-00034117-00034272 of oil that we use across an infinite 3y4HOEznm1g-00154-00034273-00034505 number of vehicles and it never depleted 3y4HOEznm1g-00155-00034506-00034893 that's what data is right Selena you're 3y4HOEznm1g-00156-00034894-00035064 right but yes plane it so what it means 3y4HOEznm1g-00157-00035065-00035382 is that data is has you can you can use 3y4HOEznm1g-00158-00035383-00035559 data across an endless number of use 3y4HOEznm1g-00159-00035560-00035715 cases if you go out and at the same time 3y4HOEznm1g-00160-00035716-00035982 at the same time you pay for it once you 3y4HOEznm1g-00161-00035983-00036140 put it in the data Lake once and then I 3y4HOEznm1g-00162-00036141-00036339 can use it for customer acquisition and 3y4HOEznm1g-00163-00036340-00036548 retention and upsell and cross-sell and 3y4HOEznm1g-00164-00036549-00036777 fraud and all these other use cases 3y4HOEznm1g-00165-00036778-00037026 right so it never it never wears out it 3y4HOEznm1g-00166-00037027-00037296 never depletes so I can use it and and 3y4HOEznm1g-00167-00037297-00037563 what organizations struggle with if you 3y4HOEznm1g-00168-00037564-00037775 look at data from accounting perspective 3y4HOEznm1g-00169-00037776-00038037 accounting tends to value assets based 3y4HOEznm1g-00170-00038038-00038271 on what you paid for and and and how you 3y4HOEznm1g-00171-00038272-00038583 can apply them uniquely to a particular 3y4HOEznm1g-00172-00038584-00038820 activity a machine to be applied to this 3y4HOEznm1g-00173-00038821-00039030 activity and decide that activity or 3y4HOEznm1g-00174-00039031-00039215 that activity a building can be applied 3y4HOEznm1g-00175-00039216-00039345 to that activity or that activity or 3y4HOEznm1g-00176-00039346-00039507 person's time to that activity it has a 3y4HOEznm1g-00177-00039508-00039717 transactional limitation exactly then or 3y4HOEznm1g-00178-00039718-00039987 it's a trend yes so what happens now is 3y4HOEznm1g-00179-00039988-00040125 instead of looking at it from an 3y4HOEznm1g-00180-00040126-00040323 accounting perspective let's look at it 3y4HOEznm1g-00181-00040324-00040488 from of economics and a data science 3y4HOEznm1g-00182-00040489-00040707 perspective that is what can I do with 3y4HOEznm1g-00183-00040708-00040902 the data what can I do as far as using 3y4HOEznm1g-00184-00040903-00041049 that data to predict what's likely to 3y4HOEznm1g-00185-00041050-00041240 happen to prescribe actions and to 3y4HOEznm1g-00186-00041241-00041439 uncover new monetization opportunities 3y4HOEznm1g-00187-00041440-00041693 so it really the entire approach of 3y4HOEznm1g-00188-00041694-00041781 looking at from the accounting 3y4HOEznm1g-00189-00041782-00041898 perspective we just completed that 3y4HOEznm1g-00190-00041899-00042024 research at the University of San 3y4HOEznm1g-00191-00042025-00042273 Francisco where we looked at a know how 3y4HOEznm1g-00192-00042274-00042399 do you determine economic value of data 3y4HOEznm1g-00193-00042400-00042621 and we realize that using an accounting 3y4HOEznm1g-00194-00042622-00042890 approach grossly undervalued that data 3y4HOEznm1g-00195-00042891-00043062 is worth so instead of using a 3y4HOEznm1g-00196-00043063-00043278 accounting we started with an economics 3y4HOEznm1g-00197-00043279-00043508 perspective it the multiplier effect 3y4HOEznm1g-00198-00043509-00043721 marginal propensity to consume all that 3y4HOEznm1g-00199-00043722-00043845 kind of stuff that we all forgot about 3y4HOEznm1g-00200-00043846-00044001 it which got out of college really 3y4HOEznm1g-00201-00044002-00044145 applies to you because now I can use 3y4HOEznm1g-00202-00044146-00044325 that day same data over and over again 3y4HOEznm1g-00203-00044326-00044553 and if I apply a data science to it to 3y4HOEznm1g-00204-00044554-00044700 really try to predict prescribe and 3y4HOEznm1g-00205-00044701-00044934 monetize all of a sudden the economic 3y4HOEznm1g-00206-00044935-00045174 value of data just explodes precisely 3y4HOEznm1g-00207-00045175-00045446 because of your connecting a source of 3y4HOEznm1g-00208-00045447-00045579 data which has a particularly 3y4HOEznm1g-00209-00045580-00045783 utilization to another source of data 3y4HOEznm1g-00210-00045784-00045945 that has a particular utilization and 3y4HOEznm1g-00211-00045946-00046137 you can combine them create new 3y4HOEznm1g-00212-00046138-00046352 utilizations that might in and of itself 3y4HOEznm1g-00213-00046353-00046611 be even more valuable than either of the 3y4HOEznm1g-00214-00046612-00046800 origination Edeka you take that's 3y4HOEznm1g-00215-00046801-00047012 exactly right they think about please i 3y4HOEznm1g-00216-00047013-00047250 think it's right congratulations we 3y4HOEznm1g-00217-00047251-00047598 agree which is rare everywhere um so now 3y4HOEznm1g-00218-00047599-00047793 let's talk about let's talk about this 3y4HOEznm1g-00219-00047794-00048096 notion of as we move forward with data 3y4HOEznm1g-00220-00048097-00048396 value how does an organization have to 3y4HOEznm1g-00221-00048397-00048585 start translating some of these new ways 3y4HOEznm1g-00222-00048586-00048855 of thinking about the value data into 3y4HOEznm1g-00223-00048856-00049152 investments in data so that you have the 3y4HOEznm1g-00224-00049153-00049365 data where you want it when you want it 3y4HOEznm1g-00225-00049366-00049650 and in the form that you need it that is 3y4HOEznm1g-00226-00049651-00049827 that's the heart of why you do this 3y4HOEznm1g-00227-00049828-00050058 right if I know what the value of my 3y4HOEznm1g-00228-00050059-00050258 data is then I can make decisions 3y4HOEznm1g-00229-00050259-00050487 regarding what data am I going to try to 3y4HOEznm1g-00230-00050488-00050673 protect enhance which date am I going to 3y4HOEznm1g-00231-00050674-00050837 get rid of right and you know put on 3y4HOEznm1g-00232-00050838-00051062 cold storage for example and so we came 3y4HOEznm1g-00233-00051063-00051380 up with a methodology for how we tie the 3y4HOEznm1g-00234-00051382-00051582 value of data back to use cases 3y4HOEznm1g-00235-00051583-00051804 everything we do is use case base so if 3y4HOEznm1g-00236-00051804-00051971 you're trying to increase same store 3y4HOEznm1g-00237-00051972-00052139 sales at a Chipotle one of my favorite 3y4HOEznm1g-00238-00052140-00052326 places if you're trying to increase it 3y4HOEznm1g-00239-00052327-00052509 by seven point one percent that's worth 3y4HOEznm1g-00240-00052510-00052710 about 191 million dollars right and the 3y4HOEznm1g-00241-00052711-00052890 use cases that support that like 3y4HOEznm1g-00242-00052891-00053088 increasing local event marketing 3y4HOEznm1g-00243-00053089-00053253 increasing new product introduction 3y4HOEznm1g-00244-00053254-00053388 effectiveness increasing customer 3y4HOEznm1g-00245-00053389-00053610 cross-sell or upsell if you start break 3y4HOEznm1g-00246-00053611-00053778 those use cases down you can start tying 3y4HOEznm1g-00247-00053779-00054024 financial value to those use cases and 3y4HOEznm1g-00248-00054025-00054297 if I know what data sets what three five 3y4HOEznm1g-00249-00054298-00054501 seven data sets are required to help 3y4HOEznm1g-00250-00054502-00054767 solve that problem I now have a basis 3y4HOEznm1g-00251-00054769-00054824 against which 3y4HOEznm1g-00252-00054825-00055043 I can start attaching value to data and 3y4HOEznm1g-00253-00055044-00055256 as I look across that across a number of 3y4HOEznm1g-00254-00055257-00055434 use cases now the data starts the value 3y4HOEznm1g-00255-00055435-00055646 data starts to increment it grows 3y4HOEznm1g-00256-00055647-00055803 exponentially on exponential but does 3y4HOEznm1g-00257-00055804-00055946 increment right and it gets more and 3y4HOEznm1g-00258-00055947-00056201 more it's not it's it's nonlinear it's 3y4HOEznm1g-00259-00056202-00056366 super yes yeah and what's also 3y4HOEznm1g-00260-00056367-00056513 interesting returns from an ROI 3y4HOEznm1g-00261-00056514-00056668 perspective what you're going to find 3y4HOEznm1g-00262-00056669-00056954 that that as you go down these use cases 3y4HOEznm1g-00263-00056955-00057266 the the financial value of that use case 3y4HOEznm1g-00264-00057267-00057449 may not be really high but when you're 3y4HOEznm1g-00265-00057450-00057609 art when the denominator by RI 3y4HOEznm1g-00266-00057610-00057771 calculation starts approaching zero 3y4HOEznm1g-00267-00057772-00057984 because I'm reusing data at zero cost I 3y4HOEznm1g-00268-00057985-00058250 can reuse data at zero cost with a 3y4HOEznm1g-00269-00058251-00058385 denominator starts going to zero you 3y4HOEznm1g-00270-00058386-00058655 don't have a shear ROI infinity it 3y4HOEznm1g-00271-00058656-00058865 explodes last question bill you 3y4HOEznm1g-00272-00058866-00059034 mentioned the university of san 3y4HOEznm1g-00273-00059035-00059213 francisco knew you're there been there 3y4HOEznm1g-00274-00059214-00059444 awhile teaching business students how to 3y4HOEznm1g-00275-00059445-00059684 embrace analytics one of the things that 3y4HOEznm1g-00276-00059685-00059957 was talked about this morning in the 3y4HOEznm1g-00277-00059958-00060251 keynote was Hortonworks dedication to 3y4HOEznm1g-00278-00060252-00060419 the open source community from the 3y4HOEznm1g-00279-00060420-00060551 beginning and they kind of talked about 3y4HOEznm1g-00280-00060552-00060812 their with kids in college these days 3y4HOEznm1g-00281-00060813-00061004 they have access to this open source 3y4HOEznm1g-00282-00061005-00061169 software that's free I just love to get 3y4HOEznm1g-00283-00061170-00061340 kind of last word your take on what are 3y4HOEznm1g-00284-00061341-00061601 you seeing in the university university 3y4HOEznm1g-00285-00061602-00061916 life today we're these business students 3y4HOEznm1g-00286-00061917-00062117 are understanding more about analytics 3y4HOEznm1g-00287-00062118-00062332 but also do you see them as kind of 3y4HOEznm1g-00288-00062333-00062572 helping to build the next generation of 3y4HOEznm1g-00289-00062573-00062828 data scientists since that's really kind 3y4HOEznm1g-00290-00062829-00063026 of the next leg of the digital change so 3y4HOEznm1g-00291-00063027-00063246 the premise we have in our class is that 3y4HOEznm1g-00292-00063247-00063515 we probably can't turn business people 3y4HOEznm1g-00293-00063516-00063743 into data scientists in fact we don't 3y4HOEznm1g-00294-00063744-00063947 think that's valuable what we want to do 3y4HOEznm1g-00295-00063948-00064082 is teach them how to think like a data 3y4HOEznm1g-00296-00064083-00064250 scientist and what happens if we can get 3y4HOEznm1g-00297-00064251-00064469 the business stakeholders to understand 3y4HOEznm1g-00298-00064470-00064637 what's possible with data and analytics 3y4HOEznm1g-00299-00064638-00064775 and you couple them of the data 3y4HOEznm1g-00300-00064776-00064976 scientists know how to do it we see we 3y4HOEznm1g-00301-00064977-00065213 see exponential impact we had we did a 3y4HOEznm1g-00302-00065214-00065453 client project around customer attrition 3y4HOEznm1g-00303-00065454-00065654 the industry benchmark and customer 3y4HOEznm1g-00304-00065655-00065879 attrition is it was published in London 3y4HOEznm1g-00305-00065880-00066115 company but they had a 24% 3y4HOEznm1g-00306-00066116-00066485 identification rate we had a 59% we 2x 3y4HOEznm1g-00307-00066486-00066644 the number not because our data 3y4HOEznm1g-00308-00066645-00066776 scientists are smarter our tools are 3y4HOEznm1g-00309-00066777-00066941 smarter but because our approach was to 3y4HOEznm1g-00310-00066942-00067097 leverage to teach the business people 3y4HOEznm1g-00311-00067098-00067307 how to think like a data scientist and 3y4HOEznm1g-00312-00067308-00067499 they were able to identify variables and 3y4HOEznm1g-00313-00067500-00067661 metrics they wanted to test and when our 3y4HOEznm1g-00314-00067662-00067793 data scientists test we said oh my gosh 3y4HOEznm1g-00315-00067794-00067982 that that's a very highly per dan just 3y4HOEznm1g-00316-00067983-00068187 what they said and trusted is that right 3y4HOEznm1g-00317-00068188-00068403 so how do you build trust on a data 3y4HOEznm1g-00318-00068404-00068682 science side you fail your test you fail 3y4HOEznm1g-00319-00068683-00068850 your test you fail and you don't you 3y4HOEznm1g-00320-00068851-00069028 never you're never going to understand 3y4HOEznm1g-00321-00069029-00069273 100% accuracy but have you failed enough 3y4HOEznm1g-00322-00069274-00069466 times that you feel comfortable and 3y4HOEznm1g-00323-00069467-00069623 confident - the model is good enough 3y4HOEznm1g-00324-00069624-00069930 what a great spirit of innovation that 3y4HOEznm1g-00325-00069931-00070134 that you're helping to bring there your 3y4HOEznm1g-00326-00070135-00070269 key now we should mention is tomorrow 3y4HOEznm1g-00327-00070270-00070494 that's right so you can if you're 3y4HOEznm1g-00328-00070495-00070626 watching a live stream or you're in 3y4HOEznm1g-00329-00070627-00070797 person you can see bills you know those 3y4HOEznm1g-00330-00070798-00071076 marzo CTO of Delhi MC thank you for 3y4HOEznm1g-00331-00071077-00071304 joining Peter and I great to have you on 3y4HOEznm1g-00332-00071305-00071562 the show we're a show where you can talk 3y4HOEznm1g-00333-00071563-00071712 about the lawyers and Chipotle in one 3y4HOEznm1g-00334-00071713-00071853 show I've never seen a dodge this is 3y4HOEznm1g-00335-00071854-00072147 groundbreaking fantastic cycle doughnuts 3y4HOEznm1g-00336-00072148-00072509 - and psycho donut so now I'm hungry 3y4HOEznm1g-00337-00072510-00072715 thank you for watching this segment 3y4HOEznm1g-00338-00072716-00072954 again we are alive on day one of the 3y4HOEznm1g-00339-00072955-00073203 data work summit in San Francisco for 3y4HOEznm1g-00340-00073204-00073356 Bill Maher's oh and Peter burst my 3y4HOEznm1g-00341-00073357-00073566 co-host I am Lisa Martin stick around we 3y4HOEznm1g-00342-00073567-00074386 will be right back 3y4HOEznm1g-00343-00074387-00074599 [Music] 3CNaTRB4As8-00000-00000119-00000438 hello this is natalia spinozza and today 3CNaTRB4As8-00001-00000440-00000623 i want to share with you 3CNaTRB4As8-00002-00000624-00000878 how our fieldflies involve in wasting 3CNaTRB4As8-00003-00000880-00001039 nitrogen 3CNaTRB4As8-00004-00001040-00001270 for rangers in the southeast is very 3CNaTRB4As8-00005-00001271-00001527 common to see horn flies face flies 3CNaTRB4As8-00006-00001528-00001830 bottle flies stable flies and many other 3CNaTRB4As8-00007-00001832-00002071 different species during the summer 3CNaTRB4As8-00008-00002072-00002175 season 3CNaTRB4As8-00009-00002176-00002439 these flies live around cattle and other 3CNaTRB4As8-00010-00002440-00002671 animals because they use manure and 3CNaTRB4As8-00011-00002672-00002855 waste to reproduce 3CNaTRB4As8-00012-00002856-00003126 but in the case of catalon pastures horn 3CNaTRB4As8-00013-00003127-00003438 flies and face flies are more common 3CNaTRB4As8-00014-00003439-00003663 since they only use fresh manure to 3CNaTRB4As8-00015-00003664-00003783 reproduce 3CNaTRB4As8-00016-00003784-00004111 these flies have their entire life cycle 3CNaTRB4As8-00017-00004112-00004270 around cattle 3CNaTRB4As8-00018-00004271-00004559 cornflies suck cuddles blood and face 3CNaTRB4As8-00019-00004560-00004870 flies lap up the protein-rich secretions 3CNaTRB4As8-00020-00004871-00005175 from the eyes as well as saliva or blood 3CNaTRB4As8-00021-00005176-00005318 from wounds 3CNaTRB4As8-00022-00005319-00005622 both species have a detrimental effect 3CNaTRB4As8-00023-00005623-00005911 on cattle's health causing weight loss 3CNaTRB4As8-00024-00005912-00006206 restlessness and even can transmit some 3CNaTRB4As8-00025-00006207-00006670 diseases such as big eye and mastitis 3CNaTRB4As8-00026-00006672-00006903 but little is known about how these 3CNaTRB4As8-00027-00006904-00007127 field flights can affect the nitrogen 3CNaTRB4As8-00028-00007128-00007423 emissions during the reproducing cycle 3CNaTRB4As8-00029-00007423-00007614 in the manure 3CNaTRB4As8-00030-00007615-00007870 previous research found that house flies 3CNaTRB4As8-00031-00007872-00008127 and butterflies cause higher nitrogen 3CNaTRB4As8-00032-00008128-00008399 emissions from manure and it has been 3CNaTRB4As8-00033-00008400-00008655 suggested that these losses are driven 3CNaTRB4As8-00034-00008656-00008839 by the larp activity 3CNaTRB4As8-00035-00008840-00009119 nevertheless the exact mechanism is 3CNaTRB4As8-00036-00009120-00009303 still unknown 3CNaTRB4As8-00037-00009304-00009519 the purpose of this study is to 3CNaTRB4As8-00038-00009520-00009742 understand the relationship between 3CNaTRB4As8-00039-00009743-00010078 field slice numbers and in cattle manure 3CNaTRB4As8-00040-00010079-00010359 with the nitrogen losses caused by an 3CNaTRB4As8-00041-00010360-00010574 increase in ammonia and nitrous oxide 3CNaTRB4As8-00042-00010575-00010695 emissions 3CNaTRB4As8-00043-00010696-00010974 we measured ammonia volatilization and 3CNaTRB4As8-00044-00010975-00011351 nitrous oxide emissions on the days 1 4 3CNaTRB4As8-00045-00011352-00011742 8 and 15 after maneuver deposition 3CNaTRB4As8-00046-00011743-00012014 to measure ammonia we use boric acid 3CNaTRB4As8-00047-00012015-00012327 traps and for nitrous oxide we took gas 3CNaTRB4As8-00048-00012328-00012510 samples to analyze 3CNaTRB4As8-00049-00012511-00012719 by gas chromatography 3CNaTRB4As8-00050-00012720-00012991 to capture their missions we use these 3CNaTRB4As8-00051-00012991-00013351 white chambers shown in figure 5 3CNaTRB4As8-00052-00013352-00013791 that they remain closed for 24 hours 3CNaTRB4As8-00053-00013791-00014055 capturing ammonia with the glass jars 3CNaTRB4As8-00054-00014056-00014255 shown in figure 1 3CNaTRB4As8-00055-00014256-00014519 and then we came to the next day to take 3CNaTRB4As8-00056-00014519-00014815 the gas samples and the yards 3CNaTRB4As8-00057-00014816-00015022 we determined the initial number of 3CNaTRB4As8-00058-00015023-00015303 flies that laid x and manure and the 3CNaTRB4As8-00059-00015304-00015607 final number of flies that emerged after 3CNaTRB4As8-00060-00015608-00015903 15 days using the net traps shown in 3CNaTRB4As8-00061-00015904-00016191 figures 2 and 3. 3CNaTRB4As8-00062-00016191-00016447 we took manure samples on the first day 3CNaTRB4As8-00063-00016448-00016743 of deposition and 15 days after to 3CNaTRB4As8-00064-00016744-00017039 evaluate the total nitrogen content 3CNaTRB4As8-00065-00017040-00017367 we completed six sets of samples from 3CNaTRB4As8-00066-00017368-00017630 june to september every set was 3CNaTRB4As8-00067-00017631-00017894 constituted of four sampling sampling 3CNaTRB4As8-00068-00017895-00018111 chambers and one controlled chamber 3CNaTRB4As8-00069-00018112-00018286 without manure 3CNaTRB4As8-00070-00018287-00018647 as we can see in table 1 3CNaTRB4As8-00071-00018648-00018950 more than 80 percent of captured flies 3CNaTRB4As8-00072-00018951-00019286 were horn flies with 4.7 percent of face 3CNaTRB4As8-00073-00019287-00019719 flies and 15.3 percent of bottle flies 3CNaTRB4As8-00074-00019720-00019919 it was interesting to see that the 3CNaTRB4As8-00075-00019920-00020158 greatest larp activity was easily 3CNaTRB4As8-00076-00020159-00020471 observed on the day four as we can see 3CNaTRB4As8-00077-00020472-00020750 in figure 7. 3CNaTRB4As8-00078-00020751-00020999 when we combined the nitrous oxide and 3CNaTRB4As8-00079-00021000-00021247 ammonia emissions we found that the 3CNaTRB4As8-00080-00021248-00021543 daily nitrogen emissions have a direct 3CNaTRB4As8-00081-00021544-00021735 relationship with the total number of 3CNaTRB4As8-00082-00021736-00021871 fly sculptures 3CNaTRB4As8-00083-00021872-00022135 as we can see in figure 8. 3CNaTRB4As8-00084-00022136-00022350 we wanted to relate these results with 3CNaTRB4As8-00085-00022351-00022599 the actual impact of these emissions 3CNaTRB4As8-00086-00022600-00022886 therefore we extrapolated the impact of 3CNaTRB4As8-00087-00022887-00023263 the 0.03 milligrams of nitrogen emitted 3CNaTRB4As8-00088-00023264-00023511 for every additional flight to the 3CNaTRB4As8-00089-00023512-00023767 average conditions for the southern 3CNaTRB4As8-00090-00023768-00023975 pastures in the u.s 3CNaTRB4As8-00091-00023976-00024167 here you can see the data and the 3CNaTRB4As8-00092-00024168-00024350 calculations made 3CNaTRB4As8-00093-00024351-00024583 we found that even on the economic 3CNaTRB4As8-00094-00024584-00024886 threshold that indic that that dictates 3CNaTRB4As8-00095-00024887-00025183 that there is not a significant economic 3CNaTRB4As8-00096-00025184-00025455 impact when the corn fly populations is 3CNaTRB4As8-00097-00025456-00025790 on around 200 plus per animal even under 3CNaTRB4As8-00098-00025791-00026190 those conditions approximately 3 600 3CNaTRB4As8-00099-00026191-00026446 kilograms of nitrogen are emitted into 3CNaTRB4As8-00100-00026447-00026718 the atmosphere the sultan forum from 3CNaTRB4As8-00101-00026719-00027102 field flights activity in the manure 3CNaTRB4As8-00102-00027104-00027383 further studies are needed to understand 3CNaTRB4As8-00103-00027383-00027639 the impact of these losses on forage 3CNaTRB4As8-00104-00027639-00027870 nutrition and soil health 3CNaTRB4As8-00105-00027872-00028087 this year we are going to continue the 3CNaTRB4As8-00106-00028088-00028318 study on ammonia and nitrous oxide 3CNaTRB4As8-00107-00028319-00028567 emissions under the same conditions to 3CNaTRB4As8-00108-00028568-00028807 confirm the trends and accuracy of the 3CNaTRB4As8-00109-00028808-00028927 results 3CNaTRB4As8-00110-00028927-00029183 also we will implement a study to 3CNaTRB4As8-00111-00029183-00029439 analyze the effect of these losses on 3CNaTRB4As8-00112-00029439-00029631 soil nitrogen content and the 3CNaTRB4As8-00113-00029632-00029862 introduction of a parasitic wasp is 3CNaTRB4As8-00114-00029863-00030158 palanja end use as a biological control 3CNaTRB4As8-00115-00030160-00030487 on her fly and face flight populations 3CNaTRB4As8-00116-00030488-00030908 thank you so much for durantine 3D9NSFGhQi4-00000-00001088-00001331 we got a like three minutes before we're 3D9NSFGhQi4-00001-00001332-00001553 supposed to start but like who was here 3D9NSFGhQi4-00002-00001554-00001857 for Mike's talk just a few minutes ago 3D9NSFGhQi4-00003-00001859-00001991 okay 3D9NSFGhQi4-00004-00001992-00002326 so this is like part two just when you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00005-00002327-00002462 thought it was safe to go back on the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00006-00002463-00003329 web yeah so Mike you know he covered 3D9NSFGhQi4-00007-00003329-00003563 some specific problems and then like 3D9NSFGhQi4-00008-00003564-00003781 some breaches that have happened and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00009-00003782-00004213 when I this was like you know a week ago 3D9NSFGhQi4-00010-00004214-00004481 or so I saw like I knew he was speaking 3D9NSFGhQi4-00011-00004482-00004625 and I've known him 3D9NSFGhQi4-00012-00004626-00005095 we used their product so I sent him an 3D9NSFGhQi4-00013-00005096-00005261 email I was like hey actually your talk 3D9NSFGhQi4-00014-00005262-00005522 sounds really similar to my talk you're 3D9NSFGhQi4-00015-00005523-00005660 like talking about breaches that have 3D9NSFGhQi4-00016-00005661-00005816 happened I thought I'd go through some 3D9NSFGhQi4-00017-00005817-00006125 real things that have been found and I 3D9NSFGhQi4-00018-00006126-00006275 was like here's my list of things that I 3D9NSFGhQi4-00019-00006276-00006598 I might talk about does this conflict 3D9NSFGhQi4-00020-00006600-00006810 with anything you were talking about and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00021-00006811-00007021 I couldn't believe it he wrote me back 3D9NSFGhQi4-00022-00007022-00007171 he's like I'm not talking about any of 3D9NSFGhQi4-00023-00007172-00007396 those although he did kind of like cuz 3D9NSFGhQi4-00024-00007397-00007559 he mentioned Ashley Madison but he 3D9NSFGhQi4-00025-00007559-00007853 didn't really talk about it so so if you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00026-00007854-00008053 were in that talk this is kind of like a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00027-00008054-00008353 similar talk except sort of the details 3D9NSFGhQi4-00028-00008354-00008764 of vulnerabilities that have been found 3D9NSFGhQi4-00029-00008765-00009227 in different people's sites so if you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00030-00009228-00009485 were in case you were curious about this 3D9NSFGhQi4-00031-00009486-00009928 top verses that talk also I just like to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00032-00009929-00010070 talk so when I get up here I like to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00033-00010071-00010163 talk we have one minute before 3D9NSFGhQi4-00034-00010164-00010360 officially supposed to start I like to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00035-00010361-00010580 use vacation pictures now for my title 3D9NSFGhQi4-00036-00010581-00010880 slides and this is meteor crater in 3D9NSFGhQi4-00037-00010881-00011224 Arizona it's actually the first crater 3D9NSFGhQi4-00038-00011225-00011485 that like anyone actually figured out 3D9NSFGhQi4-00039-00011486-00011708 came from a meteor in fact for a long 3D9NSFGhQi4-00040-00011709-00011924 time they thought it was like a volcanic 3D9NSFGhQi4-00041-00011925-00012335 thing so yeah this is in case you're 3D9NSFGhQi4-00042-00012336-00012685 wondering it's pretty big I don't 3D9NSFGhQi4-00043-00012686-00012877 remember exactly how big but it's pretty 3D9NSFGhQi4-00044-00012878-00013061 big 3D9NSFGhQi4-00045-00013062-00013922 there you go 3D9NSFGhQi4-00046-00013924-00014714 yep yep 3D9NSFGhQi4-00047-00014715-00015789 no no it's not that big well so you'd 3D9NSFGhQi4-00048-00015790-00016086 have to have detection right and then 3D9NSFGhQi4-00049-00016087-00016239 you would probably have to have some way 3D9NSFGhQi4-00050-00016240-00016811 of avoiding it or deflecting it right 3D9NSFGhQi4-00051-00016812-00017086 all right so I should start the real 3D9NSFGhQi4-00052-00017087-00017242 talk 3D9NSFGhQi4-00053-00017243-00017511 my name is Justin Collins at president 3D9NSFGhQi4-00054-00017512-00017969 beef on Twitter and most of the internet 3D9NSFGhQi4-00055-00017970-00018424 I wanted to give this talk I've actually 3D9NSFGhQi4-00056-00018425-00018730 heard people say phrases very similar to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00057-00018731-00018972 this in fact I heard at least one person 3D9NSFGhQi4-00058-00018973-00019242 say it this week not quite like you know 3D9NSFGhQi4-00059-00019243-00019419 I believe rails is gonna do everything 3D9NSFGhQi4-00060-00019420-00019572 for me but sort of that question like 3D9NSFGhQi4-00061-00019573-00019719 well but isn't rails pretty good at 3D9NSFGhQi4-00062-00019720-00019869 security doesn't it kind of do a lot of 3D9NSFGhQi4-00063-00019870-00020289 stuff for me and so I thought it was a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00064-00020290-00020595 good title for this talk and so the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00065-00020596-00020775 question is doesn't rails take care of 3D9NSFGhQi4-00066-00020776-00021144 security for me the answer no it doesn't 3D9NSFGhQi4-00067-00021145-00021687 and that's all I have thank you this is 3D9NSFGhQi4-00068-00021688-00022192 I would have put up pictures of my cats 3D9NSFGhQi4-00069-00022193-00022483 but everyone does that and mine are not 3D9NSFGhQi4-00070-00022484-00022908 as funny looking as Aaron's so here's my 3D9NSFGhQi4-00071-00022909-00023109 turtle instead oh yeah 3D9NSFGhQi4-00072-00023110-00023553 so some more details I would guess I 3D9NSFGhQi4-00073-00023554-00023755 hate doing these slides but it's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00074-00023756-00024024 somewhat relevant this is I believe 3D9NSFGhQi4-00075-00024025-00024303 snapchat shows you your soul so this is 3D9NSFGhQi4-00076-00024304-00024624 what my soul looks like I've been doing 3D9NSFGhQi4-00077-00024625-00024894 applications security for about six 3D9NSFGhQi4-00078-00024895-00025317 years and working on break man open 3D9NSFGhQi4-00079-00025318-00025606 source project for essentially the same 3D9NSFGhQi4-00080-00025607-00025881 amount of time last couple years working 3D9NSFGhQi4-00081-00025882-00026214 on break man Pro if you just need to be 3D9NSFGhQi4-00082-00026215-00026410 more professional about your security 3D9NSFGhQi4-00083-00026411-00026755 tools if you really like break man but 3D9NSFGhQi4-00084-00026756-00026899 you don't feel like you need the pro 3D9NSFGhQi4-00085-00026900-00027070 version but you want to support break 3D9NSFGhQi4-00086-00027070-00027355 man you can buy licenses for break man 3D9NSFGhQi4-00087-00027356-00027706 Pro and you don't have to use them but 3D9NSFGhQi4-00088-00027707-00027835 you can buy them and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00089-00027836-00028098 we'll support the open source project 3D9NSFGhQi4-00090-00028099-00028405 okay so that's that's all I'm that's the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00091-00028406-00028761 sales pitch okay so this talk I already 3D9NSFGhQi4-00092-00028762-00029043 kind of told you what it was but if 3D9NSFGhQi4-00093-00029044-00029208 you're looking for like what rails does 3D9NSFGhQi4-00094-00029209-00029395 give you and what rails does not give 3D9NSFGhQi4-00095-00029395-00029745 you I gave a talk last year that was the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00096-00029746-00030120 vacation to the Grand Canyon about like 3D9NSFGhQi4-00097-00030121-00030289 kind of the security things that the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00098-00030289-00030489 rails does well things it doesn't do 3D9NSFGhQi4-00099-00030490-00030642 well things I wish it would do better 3D9NSFGhQi4-00100-00030643-00030936 and then Brian helm camp a couple years 3D9NSFGhQi4-00101-00030937-00031164 before that gave a talk about rails 3D9NSFGhQi4-00102-00031165-00031393 insecure defaults some of which have 3D9NSFGhQi4-00103-00031394-00031561 changed in the meantime so that's good 3D9NSFGhQi4-00104-00031562-00031761 so if you're interested kind of in that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00105-00031762-00031914 topic which is not what this talk is 3D9NSFGhQi4-00106-00031915-00032470 about you could wash those cup like in 3D9NSFGhQi4-00107-00032470-00032655 between those two talks I did a talk 3D9NSFGhQi4-00108-00032656-00033015 with Aaron bedre and Matt Conda where we 3D9NSFGhQi4-00109-00033016-00033371 kind of did like a hypothetical scenario 3D9NSFGhQi4-00110-00033372-00033618 where we acted out like oh we're 3D9NSFGhQi4-00111-00033619-00033811 developers and like we wrote really bad 3D9NSFGhQi4-00112-00033812-00034086 code and like these are all the things 3D9NSFGhQi4-00113-00034087-00034330 that are happening because of it and I 3D9NSFGhQi4-00114-00034331-00034539 don't know how well that went over but 3D9NSFGhQi4-00115-00034540-00034948 this talk is kind of like that except 3D9NSFGhQi4-00116-00034949-00035205 this is all real and these all come from 3D9NSFGhQi4-00117-00035206-00035485 public disclosures mostly from bug 3D9NSFGhQi4-00118-00035486-00035789 bounties sometimes from people who 3D9NSFGhQi4-00119-00035790-00036030 didn't necessarily get a bun a bounty 3D9NSFGhQi4-00120-00036031-00036252 out of it I'm not picking on these 3D9NSFGhQi4-00121-00036253-00036676 companies at all I like most of these 3D9NSFGhQi4-00122-00036677-00037039 companies and you know I'm sure they're 3D9NSFGhQi4-00123-00037040-00037502 great especially Twitter's I work there 3D9NSFGhQi4-00124-00037503-00037810 but these are just like the the well 3D9NSFGhQi4-00125-00037811-00037993 done write-ups that I could find so that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00126-00037994-00038170 I could share with you sort of the not 3D9NSFGhQi4-00127-00038171-00038443 just like not take on Mike but like not 3D9NSFGhQi4-00128-00038444-00038574 just like there's sequel injection but 3D9NSFGhQi4-00129-00038575-00038755 like what actually happened and none of 3D9NSFGhQi4-00130-00038756-00039142 these are things that rails will save 3D9NSFGhQi4-00131-00039143-00039568 you from essentially okay let's start 3D9NSFGhQi4-00132-00039569-00039820 with Twitter like I said I work there so 3D9NSFGhQi4-00133-00039821-00040245 I feel like I can share this it's public 3D9NSFGhQi4-00134-00040246-00040507 anyway but just letting you know I'm not 3D9NSFGhQi4-00135-00040508-00040707 picking on them okay so let's get into 3D9NSFGhQi4-00136-00040708-00040723 it 3D9NSFGhQi4-00137-00040724-00040971 a researcher was looking around on our 3D9NSFGhQi4-00138-00040972-00041101 ad site 3D9NSFGhQi4-00139-00041102-00041355 and he noticed something that when you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00140-00041356-00041743 put in a credit card and we check it and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00141-00041744-00041884 we go oh that's not a valid credit card 3D9NSFGhQi4-00142-00041885-00042217 you get this little modal and it's like 3D9NSFGhQi4-00143-00042218-00042364 oh you know we weren't able to approve 3D9NSFGhQi4-00144-00042365-00042499 that card and then you have two options 3D9NSFGhQi4-00145-00042500-00042658 of what to do with it 3D9NSFGhQi4-00146-00042659-00043083 one is try again and the other one is 3D9NSFGhQi4-00147-00043084-00043342 dismiss and he noticed what happened 3D9NSFGhQi4-00148-00043343-00043645 when you hit dismissed there's a method 3D9NSFGhQi4-00149-00043646-00044046 that gets a URL that gets hit and you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00150-00044047-00044224 can see there's like the account ID and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00151-00044225-00044401 this is this is actually the bug bounty 3D9NSFGhQi4-00152-00044402-00044724 researchers account and then payment 3D9NSFGhQi4-00153-00044725-00045073 methods handle failed and then an ID so 3D9NSFGhQi4-00154-00045074-00045262 I'm starting off the talk this is a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00155-00045263-00045526 rails app we're talking about and so you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00156-00045527-00045733 know that thing at the end is probably 3D9NSFGhQi4-00157-00045734-00046324 the ID for the payment method and he 3D9NSFGhQi4-00158-00046325-00046717 noticed what would happen is the payment 3D9NSFGhQi4-00159-00046718-00046965 method would go away right so he's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00160-00046966-00047118 looking at this number he's thinking 3D9NSFGhQi4-00161-00047119-00047355 this is probably the ID of the payment 3D9NSFGhQi4-00162-00047356-00047640 method what if I just like changed it 3D9NSFGhQi4-00163-00047641-00047874 does that still work is that gonna 3D9NSFGhQi4-00164-00047875-00048337 delete that payment method well it turns 3D9NSFGhQi4-00165-00048338-00048487 out on the back end there was code that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00166-00048488-00048658 looked something like this 3D9NSFGhQi4-00167-00048659-00048937 where it looks up the payment method 3D9NSFGhQi4-00168-00048938-00049183 from the ID parameter and it deletes it 3D9NSFGhQi4-00169-00049184-00049489 I still think like when I was making 3D9NSFGhQi4-00170-00049490-00049593 these I'm like that's so weird that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00171-00049594-00049798 dismiss deletes it but that's that's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00172-00049799-00050274 another thing so so this is exactly what 3D9NSFGhQi4-00173-00050275-00050695 was happening and in the sort of web 3D9NSFGhQi4-00174-00050696-00050857 security world this would be considered 3D9NSFGhQi4-00175-00050858-00051090 an insecure direct object reference to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00176-00051091-00051246 direct object reference because that ID 3D9NSFGhQi4-00177-00051247-00051562 is the row in the database and it's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00178-00051563-00051765 insecure because we're not checking that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00179-00051766-00051971 the person who's deleting that row 3D9NSFGhQi4-00180-00051972-00052344 actually owns that row there's another 3D9NSFGhQi4-00181-00052345-00052632 term for this for this exact thing right 3D9NSFGhQi4-00182-00052633-00052921 here which is a none scoped find and I 3D9NSFGhQi4-00183-00052922-00053094 don't think I came up with this term but 3D9NSFGhQi4-00184-00053095-00053299 then I searched and it doesn't seem like 3D9NSFGhQi4-00185-00053300-00053556 anyone else uses it but in rails you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00186-00053557-00053757 know you can scope your finds or you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00187-00053758-00053941 could not scope them or you could 3D9NSFGhQi4-00188-00053941-00054166 unscoped them so this is kind of like a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00189-00054166-00054366 fine that wasn't scoped properly 3D9NSFGhQi4-00190-00054367-00054651 so the way you should do this is to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00191-00054652-00054906 scope it to the current user and then do 3D9NSFGhQi4-00192-00054907-00055050 your fine for the payment method and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00193-00055051-00055554 then delete it okay so for this we paid 3D9NSFGhQi4-00194-00055555-00055822 out $2,800 I'm fairly certain that was 3D9NSFGhQi4-00195-00055823-00055998 our largest bug bounty payout to date 3D9NSFGhQi4-00196-00055999-00056310 why because someone could delete all of 3D9NSFGhQi4-00197-00056311-00056736 our customers payment cards and that's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00198-00056737-00056901 how Twitter makes money is from people 3D9NSFGhQi4-00199-00056902-00057162 paying for ads and you can imagine that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00200-00057163-00057357 would be a huge loss for us 3D9NSFGhQi4-00201-00057358-00057529 so thankfully they reported it to the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00202-00057529-00057969 bug bounty we paid them $2,800 all right 3D9NSFGhQi4-00203-00057970-00058419 next up United and I put the links you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00204-00058420-00058650 know for later if you want to read the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00205-00058651-00058824 the write-ups from the people who have 3D9NSFGhQi4-00206-00058825-00059199 found these so in this case there's a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00207-00059200-00059525 guy United launched a bug bounty program 3D9NSFGhQi4-00208-00059526-00059736 kind of famous because they're like will 3D9NSFGhQi4-00209-00059737-00060219 reward you and like reward miles which 3D9NSFGhQi4-00210-00060220-00060441 is kind of not a lot of companies give 3D9NSFGhQi4-00211-00060442-00060691 you that but then you have to fly United 3D9NSFGhQi4-00212-00060691-00060766 so 3D9NSFGhQi4-00213-00060766-00061147 [Music] 3D9NSFGhQi4-00214-00061148-00061591 so anyways he he was looking and what he 3D9NSFGhQi4-00215-00061591-00061729 was doing he was just proxying the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00216-00061729-00061945 traffic from the mobile app just to see 3D9NSFGhQi4-00217-00061946-00062221 kind of what was going on and he noticed 3D9NSFGhQi4-00218-00062222-00062740 there was a request on the screen oh 3D9NSFGhQi4-00219-00062741-00062866 sorry it's a little bit off it doesn't 3D9NSFGhQi4-00220-00062866-00063070 the details don't really matter you know 3D9NSFGhQi4-00221-00063071-00063214 it's making a post request I cut out 3D9NSFGhQi4-00222-00063215-00063553 some stuff but you noticed in the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00223-00063554-00063889 request there's MP number so united they 3D9NSFGhQi4-00224-00063890-00064213 have mileage plus or something like that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00225-00064214-00064702 yeah okay i don't fly them so mileage 3D9NSFGhQi4-00226-00064703-00064873 plus number and he thought oh that's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00227-00064874-00065296 kind of like my user ID what if i change 3D9NSFGhQi4-00228-00065297-00065536 that you might notice a trend here right 3D9NSFGhQi4-00229-00065537-00065686 so you're just like what if I change 3D9NSFGhQi4-00230-00065687-00065914 that some to someone else's number what 3D9NSFGhQi4-00231-00065915-00066130 would I get back and you got back a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00232-00066131-00066271 whole bunch of information I know this 3D9NSFGhQi4-00233-00066272-00066388 is kind of small but I'm going to zoom 3D9NSFGhQi4-00234-00066389-00066709 in including like you know what flight 3D9NSFGhQi4-00235-00066710-00066868 they're on or what flight they're booked 3D9NSFGhQi4-00236-00066869-00067228 for their name where they're going is it 3D9NSFGhQi4-00237-00067229-00067420 late like when's it coming when it's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00238-00067421-00067633 going or like every leg of the trip 3D9NSFGhQi4-00239-00067634-00067753 there was like a whole bunch of more 3D9NSFGhQi4-00240-00067754-00068059 information well he noticed in 3D9NSFGhQi4-00241-00068060-00068413 particular there's a record locator and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00242-00068414-00068716 there's a last name any guesses as to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00243-00068717-00069316 why those might be important yes exactly 3D9NSFGhQi4-00244-00069317-00069706 so what do you do when you check into a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00245-00069707-00069847 flight what do you do when you need to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00246-00069848-00069994 look up a flight and you didn't like 3D9NSFGhQi4-00247-00069995-00070249 create an account on the airlines 3D9NSFGhQi4-00248-00070250-00070504 website you put in your record locator 3D9NSFGhQi4-00249-00070505-00070885 and your last name so the reporter you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00250-00070886-00071263 found this and you kind of see that he 3D9NSFGhQi4-00251-00071264-00071521 noticed that yeah you can go on all you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00252-00071522-00071748 need is that number and last name and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00253-00071749-00071959 there's a list here of like all the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00254-00071960-00072067 things you can do look at your 3D9NSFGhQi4-00255-00072068-00072340 reservations change it cancel it you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00256-00072341-00072829 know get a receipt one another thing he 3D9NSFGhQi4-00257-00072830-00072952 mentioned is like you can see the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00258-00072953-00073120 person's emergency contact information 3D9NSFGhQi4-00259-00073121-00073324 so whoever they put in for their 3D9NSFGhQi4-00260-00073325-00073600 emergency contact you can see that all 3D9NSFGhQi4-00261-00073601-00073813 you need a confirmation number last name 3D9NSFGhQi4-00262-00073814-00074095 and you can look that up for any mileage 3D9NSFGhQi4-00263-00074096-00074215 plus remember 3D9NSFGhQi4-00264-00074216-00074548 number so that's pretty bad 3D9NSFGhQi4-00265-00074549-00074781 there was some drama because he reported 3D9NSFGhQi4-00266-00074782-00074917 it to them and they didn't fix it for a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00267-00074918-00075111 long time and then he threatened to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00268-00075112-00075343 publicly disclose it and then suddenly 3D9NSFGhQi4-00269-00075344-00075466 it was fixed and they're like no no no 3D9NSFGhQi4-00270-00075467-00075612 we were working on it the whole time and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00271-00075613-00075871 by the way your report was a duplicate 3D9NSFGhQi4-00272-00075872-00076068 so we're not giving you any money which 3D9NSFGhQi4-00273-00076069-00076281 happens a lot in bug bounty and being on 3D9NSFGhQi4-00274-00076282-00076654 the other side it just happens but he 3D9NSFGhQi4-00275-00076655-00076911 didn't get any money for that I guess it 3D9NSFGhQi4-00276-00076912-00077094 was a pretty obvious thing that other 3D9NSFGhQi4-00277-00077095-00077316 people found 3D9NSFGhQi4-00278-00077317-00077821 all right Domino's Pizza I don't eat a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00279-00077822-00078051 lot of Domino's but I seem to recall the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00280-00078052-00078241 name come from came from them having 3D9NSFGhQi4-00281-00078242-00078486 rectangular-shaped pizzas which they 3D9NSFGhQi4-00282-00078487-00079224 like do they even have those now I don't 3D9NSFGhQi4-00283-00079225-00079380 think I'm that old that you don't 3D9NSFGhQi4-00284-00079381-00079774 remember square pizzas and I do not that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00285-00079775-00080357 old for sure okay so again someone was 3D9NSFGhQi4-00286-00080358-00080536 actually in this case it was kind of 3D9NSFGhQi4-00287-00080537-00080706 interesting cuz he was just he was 3D9NSFGhQi4-00288-00080707-00080848 actually looking for something else he 3D9NSFGhQi4-00289-00080849-00081017 was curious how they generated 3D9NSFGhQi4-00290-00081018-00081223 apparently sometimes I'm the mobile app 3D9NSFGhQi4-00291-00081224-00081393 they would give you like a random coupon 3D9NSFGhQi4-00292-00081394-00081726 for $10 off or something and so he's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00293-00081727-00081874 actually looking for that but what he 3D9NSFGhQi4-00294-00081875-00082147 found instead is the way the payment 3D9NSFGhQi4-00295-00082148-00082453 system worked was the phone was actually 3D9NSFGhQi4-00296-00082454-00082654 the phone actually handed the paint 3D9NSFGhQi4-00297-00082655-00082932 handled the payments so you put in your 3D9NSFGhQi4-00298-00082933-00083248 credit card number it would send it to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00299-00083249-00083412 the payment processor and payment 3D9NSFGhQi4-00300-00083413-00083560 processors look like this you just kind 3D9NSFGhQi4-00301-00083561-00083728 of shove your credit card into your 3D9NSFGhQi4-00302-00083729-00084156 laptop screen and then it would send 3D9NSFGhQi4-00303-00084157-00084460 back okay that was successful in here's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00304-00084461-00084675 or the transaction ID or the reference 3D9NSFGhQi4-00305-00084676-00084910 number for that credit card transaction 3D9NSFGhQi4-00306-00084911-00085182 and then the app would send it to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00307-00085183-00085384 Domino's with your order and then they 3D9NSFGhQi4-00308-00085385-00085612 would make your order for you so he 3D9NSFGhQi4-00309-00085613-00085984 thought right and if there's a failure 3D9NSFGhQi4-00310-00085985-00086124 it just doesn't send it to Domino's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00311-00086125-00086548 right so he thought oh yeah I gotta tell 3D9NSFGhQi4-00312-00086549-00086773 you there's some XML ahead if you need 3D9NSFGhQi4-00313-00086774-00087138 to avert your gaze it's fine it's not 3D9NSFGhQi4-00314-00087139-00087349 that bad though so this is what would 3D9NSFGhQi4-00315-00087350-00087553 come back from the payment processor 3D9NSFGhQi4-00316-00087554-00087784 if it failed let's say not authorised 3D9NSFGhQi4-00317-00087785-00087985 and then there was a reason it was 3D9NSFGhQi4-00318-00087986-00088222 declined and then a status number and we 3D9NSFGhQi4-00319-00088223-00088453 we assumed 7 means declined for some 3D9NSFGhQi4-00320-00088454-00088944 reason so he thought what did he think 3D9NSFGhQi4-00321-00088945-00089182 what if I changed it yes 3D9NSFGhQi4-00322-00089183-00089437 catching on well if I just set that to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00323-00089438-00089698 success and as far as I know he didn't 3D9NSFGhQi4-00324-00089699-00089911 change anything else just change it to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00325-00089912-00090193 success and then I'll make I'll send 3D9NSFGhQi4-00326-00090194-00090397 that on to Domino's so it kind of looks 3D9NSFGhQi4-00327-00090398-00090733 like this it failed but we're gonna just 3D9NSFGhQi4-00328-00090734-00090943 change that to success send it to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00329-00090944-00091261 Domino's and then he's like all right 3D9NSFGhQi4-00330-00091262-00091402 like he had no idea if this would work 3D9NSFGhQi4-00331-00091403-00091657 of course so he checked his app and he 3D9NSFGhQi4-00332-00091658-00091987 sees well it's it says they're working 3D9NSFGhQi4-00333-00091988-00092301 on it but you know how a mobile apps are 3D9NSFGhQi4-00334-00092302-00092575 maybe it's just like a UI thing or 3D9NSFGhQi4-00335-00092576-00092716 something so he called them and said hey 3D9NSFGhQi4-00336-00092717-00092911 did you get an order from me and they're 3D9NSFGhQi4-00337-00092912-00093055 yeah we're working on it we're gonna you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00338-00093056-00093193 know we'll get it to you 30 minutes 3D9NSFGhQi4-00339-00093194-00093820 whatever it was and he felt kind of bad 3D9NSFGhQi4-00340-00093821-00093933 about it 3D9NSFGhQi4-00341-00093934-00094162 he felt kind of bad about it so he did 3D9NSFGhQi4-00342-00094163-00094300 pay for it like when the guy showed up 3D9NSFGhQi4-00343-00094301-00094423 he was just like oh I think there was a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00344-00094424-00094594 mistake like you know here's the money 3D9NSFGhQi4-00345-00094595-00095359 for it so he he didn't actually get a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00346-00095360-00095689 free pizza out of that but in this case 3D9NSFGhQi4-00347-00095690-00095902 we're it's simply that the server didn't 3D9NSFGhQi4-00348-00095903-00096100 check that what the client told it was 3D9NSFGhQi4-00349-00096101-00096373 true all it had the the reference number 3D9NSFGhQi4-00350-00096374-00096571 from the payment processor all it had to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00351-00096572-00096802 do was ask the payment processor hey I 3D9NSFGhQi4-00352-00096803-00097105 got this this ID was it successful if 3D9NSFGhQi4-00353-00097106-00097318 they had just done that validation no 3D9NSFGhQi4-00354-00097319-00097771 problem and so a theme in the security 3D9NSFGhQi4-00355-00097772-00098023 world really is that you shouldn't trust 3D9NSFGhQi4-00356-00098024-00098362 anyone and I was thinking about that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00357-00098363-00098479 because I thought you know I would just 3D9NSFGhQi4-00358-00098480-00098878 tell you don't trust anyone but when 3D9NSFGhQi4-00359-00098879-00099001 you're building an application you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00360-00099002-00099280 actually do have to trust some of the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00361-00099281-00099421 things that are sent to you right 3D9NSFGhQi4-00362-00099422-00099568 depending on where it comes from so that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00363-00099569-00099850 the main thing is you need to know think 3D9NSFGhQi4-00364-00099851-00099991 about who you're trusting and what 3D9NSFGhQi4-00365-00099992-00100320 you're trusting and if you should write 3D9NSFGhQi4-00366-00100321-00100678 so unfortunately you can't just trust no 3D9NSFGhQi4-00367-00100679-00100765 one 3D9NSFGhQi4-00368-00100766-00101292 all right so talk about Ashley Madison I 3D9NSFGhQi4-00369-00101293-00101629 included there like motto or tagline 3D9NSFGhQi4-00370-00101630-00101887 here because I think is like a total 3D9NSFGhQi4-00371-00101888-00102193 like logical fallacy like life is short 3D9NSFGhQi4-00372-00102194-00102373 so I have an affair is like well life is 3D9NSFGhQi4-00373-00102374-00102589 short so make your life even worse by 3D9NSFGhQi4-00374-00102590-00103204 like ruining it so they had a whole 3D9NSFGhQi4-00375-00103205-00103390 bunch of information stolen I don't know 3D9NSFGhQi4-00376-00103391-00103584 how it was stolen I'm not talking about 3D9NSFGhQi4-00377-00103585-00103888 how it was stolen but well part of what 3D9NSFGhQi4-00378-00103889-00104275 was stolen database dumps and source 3D9NSFGhQi4-00379-00104276-00104722 code but interestingly not just source 3D9NSFGhQi4-00380-00104723-00104992 code but get repos which is very 3D9NSFGhQi4-00381-00104993-00105265 interesting right it'll become apparent 3D9NSFGhQi4-00382-00105266-00105490 in a moment why that's interesting so in 3D9NSFGhQi4-00383-00105491-00105801 that about thirty six million passwords 3D9NSFGhQi4-00384-00105802-00106018 however they were hashed with bcrypt 3D9NSFGhQi4-00385-00106019-00106255 which is maybe not like top of the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00386-00106256-00106348 state-of-the-art but pretty much 3D9NSFGhQi4-00387-00106349-00106519 recommended use bcrypt 3D9NSFGhQi4-00388-00106520-00106798 with you know decent work factor which 3D9NSFGhQi4-00389-00106799-00107032 they were doing so that was good and at 3D9NSFGhQi4-00390-00107033-00107353 the time not that long ago but at the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00391-00107354-00107488 time a lot of people were like oh okay 3D9NSFGhQi4-00392-00107489-00107617 we got to start like trying to crack the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00393-00107618-00107835 B cryptid hashes so we can get the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00394-00107836-00108072 passwords but there was a group that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00395-00108073-00108493 took a different approach I gotta warn 3D9NSFGhQi4-00396-00108494-00108783 you though again even worse than last 3D9NSFGhQi4-00397-00108784-00109045 time there is some PHP code ahead but 3D9NSFGhQi4-00398-00109046-00109284 it's not that bad I think you will 3D9NSFGhQi4-00399-00109285-00109606 survive I almost rewrote it in Ruby but 3D9NSFGhQi4-00400-00109607-00109741 it was actually kind of longer and I 3D9NSFGhQi4-00401-00109742-00110050 wanted to fit it on so they found some 3D9NSFGhQi4-00402-00110051-00110515 code and it's calculating this login key 3D9NSFGhQi4-00403-00110516-00110719 and we actually don't care what that was 3D9NSFGhQi4-00404-00110720-00111033 for all we care about is the logging key 3D9NSFGhQi4-00405-00111034-00111214 was in the path or in the database 3D9NSFGhQi4-00406-00111215-00111490 associated with a user so they saw this 3D9NSFGhQi4-00407-00111491-00111667 code and they say okay well it's an md5 3D9NSFGhQi4-00408-00111668-00112045 hash that's a red flag it's got the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00409-00112046-00112216 username and it's got the password in it 3D9NSFGhQi4-00410-00112217-00112450 and for some reason they're lower casing 3D9NSFGhQi4-00411-00112451-00112621 both of those which just makes this 3D9NSFGhQi4-00412-00112622-00112843 whole thing worse but they're encrypting 3D9NSFGhQi4-00413-00112844-00113173 it first so you know we're are like now 3D9NSFGhQi4-00414-00113174-00113347 we're dealing with the hash of a be 3D9NSFGhQi4-00415-00113348-00113518 cryptid password so that's not very 3D9NSFGhQi4-00416-00113519-00113677 useful if I'm trying to crack the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00417-00113678-00113882 passwords 3D9NSFGhQi4-00418-00113883-00114143 so then they looked in the get history 3D9NSFGhQi4-00419-00114144-00114358 and they found that this code used to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00420-00114359-00114746 look like this so it used to just hash 3D9NSFGhQi4-00421-00114747-00115253 the lowercased password directly so that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00422-00115254-00115466 was pretty interesting because they knew 3D9NSFGhQi4-00423-00115467-00115631 the username and they knew the login key 3D9NSFGhQi4-00424-00115632-00115903 and they know how its constructed so now 3D9NSFGhQi4-00425-00115904-00116177 you can calculate I believe it's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00426-00116178-00116480 billions of md5 hashes like a second so 3D9NSFGhQi4-00427-00116481-00116777 this was a good work place to start 3D9NSFGhQi4-00428-00116778-00116992 there was another piece of code though 3D9NSFGhQi4-00429-00116993-00117508 and here LC means like lower case where 3D9NSFGhQi4-00430-00117508-00117811 they were doing and weirdly this was 3D9NSFGhQi4-00431-00117813-00118067 also to calculate a login key so you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00432-00118068-00118205 know who knows what was going on in the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00433-00118206-00118481 code base but in this case they had 3D9NSFGhQi4-00434-00118482-00118775 username password email and then this 3D9NSFGhQi4-00435-00118776-00119276 secret key but remember we have all 3D9NSFGhQi4-00436-00119277-00119519 their database and all their source code 3D9NSFGhQi4-00437-00119520-00119813 so the key is not secret user names not 3D9NSFGhQi4-00438-00119814-00120026 secret password is not secret the only 3D9NSFGhQi4-00439-00120027-00120278 secret is the password so this was 3D9NSFGhQi4-00440-00120279-00120431 another avenue that they decided they 3D9NSFGhQi4-00441-00120432-00120841 could use to try to crack these hashes 3D9NSFGhQi4-00442-00120842-00121298 so they started doing this about two and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00443-00121299-00121531 a half million passwords were cracked 3D9NSFGhQi4-00444-00121532-00121733 they didn't say exactly how long but 3D9NSFGhQi4-00445-00121733-00121943 they said in a few hours they had this 3D9NSFGhQi4-00446-00121944-00122078 and remember there are all these other 3D9NSFGhQi4-00447-00122079-00122243 people who are trying to crack the B 3D9NSFGhQi4-00448-00122244-00122600 crypt B cryptid passwords which would 3D9NSFGhQi4-00449-00122601-00122741 probably take like years and years and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00450-00122742-00122966 years so in a few hours they had two and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00451-00122967-00123368 a half million passwords in a few days 3D9NSFGhQi4-00452-00123369-00123581 the I didn't follow up with all of it 3D9NSFGhQi4-00453-00123582-00123824 but like the second post they did they 3D9NSFGhQi4-00454-00123825-00124082 said they had almost 12 million 3D9NSFGhQi4-00455-00124083-00124388 passwords that they had cracked to be 3D9NSFGhQi4-00456-00124389-00124568 fair and I don't have a link to that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00457-00124569-00124892 post but you could probably find it most 3D9NSFGhQi4-00458-00124893-00125075 of those passwords were pretty awful 3D9NSFGhQi4-00459-00125076-00125699 passwords so so this is this is I think 3D9NSFGhQi4-00460-00125700-00125857 this is an interesting story because 3D9NSFGhQi4-00461-00125858-00126095 they were doing the right thing they 3D9NSFGhQi4-00462-00126096-00126290 were using bcrypt for their storing 3D9NSFGhQi4-00463-00126291-00126554 their passwords but then on the side 3D9NSFGhQi4-00464-00126555-00126722 they were doing something with a much 3D9NSFGhQi4-00465-00126723-00127141 weaker hashing function and that led 3D9NSFGhQi4-00466-00127142-00127405 I mean I guess I should say researchers 3D9NSFGhQi4-00467-00127406-00127747 and attackers to be able to track the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00468-00127748-00127900 ones that were using the much stronger 3D9NSFGhQi4-00469-00127901-00128136 hash and if you're paying attention yes 3D9NSFGhQi4-00470-00128138-00128380 they were lower casing the password but 3D9NSFGhQi4-00471-00128381-00128521 most of the passwords were her a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00472-00128522-00128941 lowercase M but as the researchers were 3D9NSFGhQi4-00473-00128942-00129223 cracking them if they found a hash that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00474-00129224-00129435 worked then they would just try a few 3D9NSFGhQi4-00475-00129436-00129688 iterations of different capitalization 3D9NSFGhQi4-00476-00129689-00129909 and they could pretty much get it fairly 3D9NSFGhQi4-00477-00129910-00130075 quickly and then they compared those to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00478-00130076-00130236 make sure they compared those with the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00479-00130238-00130480 they could calculate the bcrypt hash and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00480-00130481-00130696 so they could be like yeah these are 3D9NSFGhQi4-00481-00130697-00131233 actually the passwords so don't use we 3D9NSFGhQi4-00482-00131234-00131548 caching algorithms I know this is this 3D9NSFGhQi4-00483-00131549-00131752 example with the picture is not actually 3D9NSFGhQi4-00484-00131753-00132085 a hashing algorithm but it's the idea 3D9NSFGhQi4-00485-00132086-00132292 right you're trying to hide something 3D9NSFGhQi4-00486-00132293-00132457 and you kind of feel like you hit it 3D9NSFGhQi4-00487-00132458-00132808 but you didn't really so just avoid 3D9NSFGhQi4-00488-00132809-00133242 using md5 avoid using sha-1 use sha-256 3D9NSFGhQi4-00489-00133243-00133423 for this kind of thing 3D9NSFGhQi4-00490-00133424-00133627 well not for passwords but for things 3D9NSFGhQi4-00491-00133628-00133857 other than passwords 3D9NSFGhQi4-00492-00133858-00134251 all right Facebook this one will be 3D9NSFGhQi4-00493-00134252-00134674 really quick so you want to reset there 3D9NSFGhQi4-00494-00134675-00134944 you forgot your password on Facebook so 3D9NSFGhQi4-00495-00134945-00135136 you go in and they say okay we're gonna 3D9NSFGhQi4-00496-00135137-00135469 send you a six digit code you type in 3D9NSFGhQi4-00497-00135470-00135664 the code we'll reset your password or 3D9NSFGhQi4-00498-00135665-00135808 actually I don't know what happens after 3D9NSFGhQi4-00499-00135809-00135979 that but you know we'll get you into 3D9NSFGhQi4-00500-00135980-00136429 your account so six digits how many 3D9NSFGhQi4-00501-00136430-00136993 possibilities is that yes very quick 1 3D9NSFGhQi4-00502-00136994-00137299 million so that's actually a reasonable 3D9NSFGhQi4-00503-00137300-00137611 number to like just try all of them so a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00504-00137612-00137905 researcher you know for just let you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00505-00137906-00138163 know like for bug bounty and probably 3D9NSFGhQi4-00506-00138164-00138430 other security researchers the like 3D9NSFGhQi4-00507-00138431-00138763 forgot password flow is often a weak 3D9NSFGhQi4-00508-00138764-00138985 point in websites because you're 3D9NSFGhQi4-00509-00138986-00139273 basically saying I don't know the true 3D9NSFGhQi4-00510-00139274-00139486 credentials that I should be using to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00511-00139487-00139810 get into your site so you know give me 3D9NSFGhQi4-00512-00139811-00139948 some other way to get in and a lot of 3D9NSFGhQi4-00513-00139949-00140161 times there's flaws in that so he's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00514-00140162-00140427 looking at this and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00515-00140428-00140604 he hit it and I don't know how many 3D9NSFGhQi4-00516-00140605-00140781 times he hit it but you know it was rate 3D9NSFGhQi4-00517-00140782-00141117 limited so he's like okay that's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00518-00141118-00141333 expected but then he went over to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00519-00141334-00141480 another site that he happened to know 3D9NSFGhQi4-00520-00141481-00141806 about which was Facebook's beta site 3D9NSFGhQi4-00521-00141807-00142197 well it just happens turn out that they 3D9NSFGhQi4-00522-00142198-00142440 did not have rate limiting on that site 3D9NSFGhQi4-00523-00142441-00142884 so essentially for any account that he 3D9NSFGhQi4-00524-00142885-00143288 knew the username email or phone number 3D9NSFGhQi4-00525-00143289-00143589 he could get into their account because 3D9NSFGhQi4-00526-00143590-00143754 he just requests the code it doesn't 3D9NSFGhQi4-00527-00143755-00143901 matter what the code you know wherever 3D9NSFGhQi4-00528-00143902-00144054 that win it doesn't really matter and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00529-00144055-00144369 then you just sit there trying at most a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00530-00144370-00144555 million times in the absolute worst case 3D9NSFGhQi4-00531-00144556-00144783 which you could do relatively quickly 3D9NSFGhQi4-00532-00144784-00144990 especially compared to you know trying 3D9NSFGhQi4-00533-00144991-00145491 to brute force a password so in this 3D9NSFGhQi4-00534-00145492-00145692 case is just straight up missing rate 3D9NSFGhQi4-00535-00145693-00145899 limit should have been a rate limit 3D9NSFGhQi4-00536-00145900-00146286 there wasn't one and interestingly this 3D9NSFGhQi4-00537-00146287-00146592 is probably the simplest of all these 3D9NSFGhQi4-00538-00146593-00146895 examples and yet he got the most money 3D9NSFGhQi4-00539-00146896-00147114 because the impact is well gee I can get 3D9NSFGhQi4-00540-00147115-00148212 into anyone's Facebook account so does 3D9NSFGhQi4-00541-00148213-00148710 anyone know how to pronounce this 3D9NSFGhQi4-00542-00148711-00149191 so I say imager I don't know 3D9NSFGhQi4-00543-00149192-00149513 so imager you know you like upload 3D9NSFGhQi4-00544-00149514-00149825 photos or whatever and you know people 3D9NSFGhQi4-00545-00149826-00150168 look at them and comment and upvote or 3D9NSFGhQi4-00546-00150169-00150507 whatever I'm saying that very casually 3D9NSFGhQi4-00547-00150508-00150872 but I spend a lot of time on this site 3D9NSFGhQi4-00548-00150873-00151154 anyhow they have this functionality 3D9NSFGhQi4-00549-00151155-00151458 where you can give them a URL to a video 3D9NSFGhQi4-00550-00151459-00152477 and then they convert it to a jiff I got 3D9NSFGhQi4-00551-00152478-00152682 to be honest like I'm a real introvert I 3D9NSFGhQi4-00552-00152683-00152844 don't talk to a lot of people so most 3D9NSFGhQi4-00553-00152845-00153012 words I only pronounce in my head and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00554-00153013-00153237 then I have to get up and we like talk 3D9NSFGhQi4-00555-00153238-00153494 about something and I say Jeff I'm sorry 3D9NSFGhQi4-00556-00153495-00153854 so in any case you pointed out a video 3D9NSFGhQi4-00557-00153855-00154064 like YouTube or something and it will 3D9NSFGhQi4-00558-00154065-00154589 convert it to a gif and then and then 3D9NSFGhQi4-00559-00154590-00154738 you can like show it on the site right 3D9NSFGhQi4-00560-00154739-00155046 so a researcher was looking at this you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00561-00155047-00155343 notice how it works you know it hits 3D9NSFGhQi4-00562-00155344-00155603 some end point and it passes in a URL 3D9NSFGhQi4-00563-00155604-00156026 and then it goes and fetches that URL of 3D9NSFGhQi4-00564-00156027-00156128 course I mean it's pretty simple 3D9NSFGhQi4-00565-00156129-00156468 functionality something like this so you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00566-00156469-00156750 give imager a URL and then it hits it 3D9NSFGhQi4-00567-00156751-00157202 like maybe bitly or something and this 3D9NSFGhQi4-00568-00157203-00157388 is called server side request forgery 3D9NSFGhQi4-00569-00157389-00157676 because you're basically asking a server 3D9NSFGhQi4-00570-00157677-00157925 like imager servers to go and make a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00571-00157926-00158145 request to another server essentially on 3D9NSFGhQi4-00572-00158146-00158382 your behalf and you can use this for 3D9NSFGhQi4-00573-00158383-00158654 things like you know denial of service 3D9NSFGhQi4-00574-00158655-00158949 attacks or you know any kind of attack 3D9NSFGhQi4-00575-00158950-00159152 where you kind of like to hide behind 3D9NSFGhQi4-00576-00159153-00159387 someone else or maybe they have like way 3D9NSFGhQi4-00577-00159388-00159696 more bandwidth than you do or maybe they 3D9NSFGhQi4-00578-00159697-00159900 have a trust relationship between the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00579-00159901-00160304 servers that you don't have but that's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00580-00160305-00160725 not exactly what this is about so the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00581-00160726-00161007 researcher was like what if I change 3D9NSFGhQi4-00582-00161008-00161477 that what if instead of HTTP I use SFTP 3D9NSFGhQi4-00583-00161478-00161769 and I'll just set up a server not bitly 3D9NSFGhQi4-00584-00161770-00161976 but I'll set up some server where I can 3D9NSFGhQi4-00585-00161977-00162087 see the requests that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00586-00162088-00162312 comes into my server and just see what 3D9NSFGhQi4-00587-00162313-00162747 happens so I set up using netcat he's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00588-00162748-00162918 like just listen on this port see what 3D9NSFGhQi4-00589-00162919-00163167 comes in one of the things that came in 3D9NSFGhQi4-00590-00163168-00163473 was hey I'm coming to do my you know 3D9NSFGhQi4-00591-00163474-00163878 SFTP or whatever first string that comes 3D9NSFGhQi4-00592-00163879-00164187 in is like oh I'm a lip curl and this is 3D9NSFGhQi4-00593-00164188-00164364 my version number that's pretty useful 3D9NSFGhQi4-00594-00164365-00164940 information and so what he did was he 3D9NSFGhQi4-00595-00164941-00165087 basically started trying all these 3D9NSFGhQi4-00596-00165088-00165309 different protocols and essentially 3D9NSFGhQi4-00597-00165310-00165582 imager would just whatever you gave it 3D9NSFGhQi4-00598-00165583-00165834 it would just go and do and I didn't go 3D9NSFGhQi4-00599-00165835-00166101 through the whole like example cuz it's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00600-00166102-00166245 like from a security point it's not that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00601-00166246-00166518 interesting but if you go read the post 3D9NSFGhQi4-00602-00166519-00166671 which again I linked and you know of 3D9NSFGhQi4-00603-00166672-00167007 course the slides will be available he 3D9NSFGhQi4-00604-00167008-00167663 set up a server that it would hit with I 3D9NSFGhQi4-00605-00167664-00168066 think it hit it with SFTP but then he 3D9NSFGhQi4-00606-00168067-00168332 redirected them to a gopher URL and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00607-00168333-00168672 trick them into sending an SMTP request 3D9NSFGhQi4-00608-00168673-00168945 to another server so he was actually 3D9NSFGhQi4-00609-00168946-00169266 using them to send mail through I think 3D9NSFGhQi4-00610-00169267-00169596 it was mailed are you so it's just like 3D9NSFGhQi4-00611-00169597-00169899 kind of a over complicated example of 3D9NSFGhQi4-00612-00169900-00170088 what you could do with it the main thing 3D9NSFGhQi4-00613-00170089-00170232 is you can make these requests and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00614-00170233-00170652 essentially use them as a proxy you got 3D9NSFGhQi4-00615-00170653-00171078 $2,000 for that and it I don't think I 3D9NSFGhQi4-00616-00171079-00171303 put the slide but basically like if 3D9NSFGhQi4-00617-00171304-00171474 you're not expecting to make these kinds 3D9NSFGhQi4-00618-00171475-00171684 of requests you should be checking that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00619-00171685-00171786 you're not making these kinds of 3D9NSFGhQi4-00620-00171787-00172256 requests so he got $2,000 for that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00621-00172257-00172545 alright last example I realize this is 3D9NSFGhQi4-00622-00172546-00172905 also Facebook I'm not picking on them so 3D9NSFGhQi4-00623-00172906-00173217 this came out a little bit ago there was 3D9NSFGhQi4-00624-00173218-00173487 a lot of drama around it I'm not going 3D9NSFGhQi4-00625-00173488-00173810 to talk about the drama or the causes or 3D9NSFGhQi4-00626-00173811-00174167 who may or may not have been at fault 3D9NSFGhQi4-00627-00174168-00174411 just gonna talk about what he did 3D9NSFGhQi4-00628-00174412-00174645 because it's just such a really 3D9NSFGhQi4-00629-00174646-00175122 interesting example of going from having 3D9NSFGhQi4-00630-00175123-00175333 some little bit of information 3D9NSFGhQi4-00631-00175334-00175546 research well anyways why did I have to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00632-00175547-00175629 tell you I'm gonna tell you what 3D9NSFGhQi4-00633-00175630-00175819 happened it's just a very interesting 3D9NSFGhQi4-00634-00175820-00176335 chain so he's a bug bounty guy he's you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00635-00176336-00176569 know security researcher someone tells 3D9NSFGhQi4-00636-00176570-00176804 them hey you know I saw an Instagram 3D9NSFGhQi4-00637-00176805-00177043 they seem to have some kind of admin 3D9NSFGhQi4-00638-00177044-00177283 panel that's on the Internet that's all 3D9NSFGhQi4-00639-00177284-00177493 I really know about it but maybe you can 3D9NSFGhQi4-00640-00177494-00177946 check it out so he starts he goes he 3D9NSFGhQi4-00641-00177947-00178171 starts looking around like what is this 3D9NSFGhQi4-00642-00178172-00178452 you know whatever he ends up on github 3D9NSFGhQi4-00643-00178453-00178914 and he notices that this admin panel is 3D9NSFGhQi4-00644-00178915-00179316 actually open source and you may notice 3D9NSFGhQi4-00645-00179317-00179628 something which is this is totally a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00646-00179629-00179985 rails app right we're at railsconf I'm 3D9NSFGhQi4-00647-00179986-00180051 bringing it back 3D9NSFGhQi4-00648-00180052-00180193 all right started with the rails app 3D9NSFGhQi4-00649-00180194-00180423 ending with the rails app so this is a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00650-00180424-00180919 rails app so he pokes around there are 3D9NSFGhQi4-00651-00180920-00181108 well known issues with the rails apps 3D9NSFGhQi4-00652-00181109-00181579 right and he finds this 3D9NSFGhQi4-00653-00181580-00182044 yeah all right so you're well aware so 3D9NSFGhQi4-00654-00182045-00182248 he finds the secret token and honestly 3D9NSFGhQi4-00655-00182249-00182637 like is it bad that this is here yes but 3D9NSFGhQi4-00656-00182638-00182974 if you're probably the point to take 3D9NSFGhQi4-00657-00182975-00183124 away here is that if you're using an 3D9NSFGhQi4-00658-00183125-00183388 open source rails application somewhere 3D9NSFGhQi4-00659-00183389-00183622 in your infrastructure you should go and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00660-00183623-00184072 change this value right okay so he sees 3D9NSFGhQi4-00661-00184073-00184396 this it was like well that's pretty good 3D9NSFGhQi4-00662-00184397-00184768 and also this is using this is running 3D9NSFGhQi4-00663-00184769-00185116 rails 3 to 14 which is I believe from 3D9NSFGhQi4-00664-00185117-00185650 2013 so pretty old and he does some more 3D9NSFGhQi4-00665-00185651-00185854 research doesn't really matter because 3D9NSFGhQi4-00666-00185855-00186397 we know in this room that rails 3 to the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00667-00186398-00186853 session cookie is signed but its code 3D9NSFGhQi4-00668-00186854-00187111 that has literally been marshaled to a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00669-00187112-00187354 string but it's signed and usually the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00670-00187355-00187539 sign part is kind of what keeps us safe 3D9NSFGhQi4-00671-00187540-00188050 but he has the signing key and when you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00672-00188051-00188308 unmarshal code it's possible to execute 3D9NSFGhQi4-00673-00188309-00188467 code we're probably if you've been 3D9NSFGhQi4-00674-00188468-00188629 around for a couple years you probably 3D9NSFGhQi4-00675-00188630-00189292 remember 2013 so you so session cookie 3D9NSFGhQi4-00676-00189293-00189643 signed marshalled code and if you have 3D9NSFGhQi4-00677-00189644-00189910 the signing key you essentially have 3D9NSFGhQi4-00678-00189911-00190219 remote code execution now if you read 3D9NSFGhQi4-00679-00190220-00190393 his blog post I actually got a little 3D9NSFGhQi4-00680-00190394-00190750 confused because the exploit he used was 3D9NSFGhQi4-00681-00190751-00191200 for rails 3 to 11 no no 3 to 10 which 3D9NSFGhQi4-00682-00191201-00191437 was supposed to be fixed in 3 to 11 but 3D9NSFGhQi4-00683-00191438-00191725 then he used it on 3 to 14 so I have no 3D9NSFGhQi4-00684-00191726-00191848 idea what that means but I'm just 3D9NSFGhQi4-00685-00191849-00192219 letting you know but in some case 3D9NSFGhQi4-00686-00192220-00192742 however he did it he was able to create 3D9NSFGhQi4-00687-00192743-00193030 a forged session server accepted it 3D9NSFGhQi4-00688-00193031-00193177 because he signed it with their correct 3D9NSFGhQi4-00689-00193178-00193426 he they hadn't changed it from the open 3D9NSFGhQi4-00690-00193427-00193753 source repo and he got a remote shell on 3D9NSFGhQi4-00691-00193754-00194158 the box so at this point like honestly 3D9NSFGhQi4-00692-00194159-00194470 he was done and again I'm not talking 3D9NSFGhQi4-00693-00194471-00194614 about the drama but this is where it 3D9NSFGhQi4-00694-00194615-00194724 begins 3D9NSFGhQi4-00695-00194725-00195185 so he has a remote shell that's awesome 3D9NSFGhQi4-00696-00195186-00195866 but what can he do so he decided well 3D9NSFGhQi4-00697-00195867-00196083 there's a database for the web server 3D9NSFGhQi4-00698-00196084-00196287 I'll just connect to it through my shell 3D9NSFGhQi4-00699-00196288-00196634 and see what's there and what is their 3D9NSFGhQi4-00700-00196635-00196973 passwords are there that's awesome 3D9NSFGhQi4-00701-00196974-00197402 however their be corrupted okay now 3D9NSFGhQi4-00702-00197403-00197750 there isn't like an md5 bypass this time 3D9NSFGhQi4-00703-00197751-00198060 instead what happens is he's like whoa 3D9NSFGhQi4-00704-00198061-00198360 whatever like I'll try cracking them 3D9NSFGhQi4-00705-00198361-00198609 anyway you know long shot but I'll just 3D9NSFGhQi4-00706-00198610-00198683 try it 3D9NSFGhQi4-00707-00198684-00199190 well like jackpot so six of the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00708-00199191-00199359 passwords were just changed me so 3D9NSFGhQi4-00709-00199360-00199482 probably someone set up an account for 3D9NSFGhQi4-00710-00199483-00199638 someone and then they never changed 3D9NSFGhQi4-00711-00199639-00199812 their password three of them were the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00712-00199813-00200046 same as the username two of them were 3D9NSFGhQi4-00713-00200047-00200204 just the word password and one was the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00714-00200205-00200583 word Instagram and which makes me 3D9NSFGhQi4-00715-00200584-00200724 believe probably when he set up his 3D9NSFGhQi4-00716-00200725-00201021 cracking tool he seeded it with some of 3D9NSFGhQi4-00717-00201022-00201468 this information right so that's bad he 3D9NSFGhQi4-00718-00201469-00201699 logged in just to show that he could but 3D9NSFGhQi4-00719-00201700-00201825 then he's like this isn't actually that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00720-00201826-00202143 interesting as a web app he was talking 3D9NSFGhQi4-00721-00202144-00202284 about like well maybe I could like set 3D9NSFGhQi4-00722-00202285-00202476 off some pager duty alerts but you know 3D9NSFGhQi4-00723-00202477-00202845 not that interesting as an attacker so 3D9NSFGhQi4-00724-00202846-00203003 then he starts poking around and he 3D9NSFGhQi4-00725-00203004-00203277 notices on that box there are keys for 3D9NSFGhQi4-00726-00203278-00203811 AWS and then so he goes to that box and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00727-00203812-00204045 on that box there are more keys to other 3D9NSFGhQi4-00728-00204046-00204333 s3 buckets and then he starts looking 3D9NSFGhQi4-00729-00204334-00204527 around and again not talking about the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00730-00204528-00204716 drama but you can see where some drama 3D9NSFGhQi4-00731-00204717-00204948 would come from he starts seeing like 3D9NSFGhQi4-00732-00204948-00205179 wow there's like tons of stuff like 3D9NSFGhQi4-00733-00205180-00205391 anything you could kind of imagine I can 3D9NSFGhQi4-00734-00205392-00205838 probably access and this is all from 3D9NSFGhQi4-00735-00205839-00206191 using an open source rails app that had 3D9NSFGhQi4-00736-00206192-00206775 the secret token in the source code yeah 3D9NSFGhQi4-00737-00206776-00207048 secret in the source code really old 3D9NSFGhQi4-00738-00207048-00207276 version of rails there were weak 3D9NSFGhQi4-00739-00207277-00207419 passwords which he didn't use for 3D9NSFGhQi4-00740-00207421-00207671 anything except for logging in but weak 3D9NSFGhQi4-00741-00207673-00207836 passwords and then the keys were sitting 3D9NSFGhQi4-00742-00207837-00208094 on the servers which like 3D9NSFGhQi4-00743-00208096-00208323 how you solve that like it's I think 3D9NSFGhQi4-00744-00208323-00208517 that's like the worst or the least bad 3D9NSFGhQi4-00745-00208519-00209028 thing on this list really so he got he 3D9NSFGhQi4-00746-00209029-00209430 should get $2,500 I don't know if it was 3D9NSFGhQi4-00747-00209431-00209623 worth the drama that he went through 3D9NSFGhQi4-00748-00209625-00209957 again you can read that on the Internet 3D9NSFGhQi4-00749-00209958-00210171 alright so just to kind of summarize 3D9NSFGhQi4-00750-00210171-00210666 here of like I'm sorry it's kind of off 3D9NSFGhQi4-00751-00210667-00211019 to the side but things you should do 3D9NSFGhQi4-00752-00211021-00211223 okay so verify that the current user can 3D9NSFGhQi4-00753-00211225-00211365 do the thing that they're asking to do 3D9NSFGhQi4-00754-00211366-00211556 that they can access the data they're 3D9NSFGhQi4-00755-00211557-00211914 asking to ask access and I want to point 3D9NSFGhQi4-00756-00211915-00212163 out that like this is not just like from 3D9NSFGhQi4-00757-00212164-00212439 the web browser necessarily if you're in 3D9NSFGhQi4-00758-00212440-00212631 like a service-oriented architecture you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00759-00212632-00212742 got to think about that too because 3D9NSFGhQi4-00760-00212742-00213078 again think about who you're trusting 3D9NSFGhQi4-00761-00213079-00213488 think about who they're trusting and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00762-00213489-00213771 never trust the client so think about 3D9NSFGhQi4-00763-00213771-00214182 those trust relationships always try to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00764-00214183-00214440 use strong hashing algorithms and I know 3D9NSFGhQi4-00765-00214441-00214578 like there's a there's a strong 3D9NSFGhQi4-00766-00214579-00214694 temptation when you're like well this 3D9NSFGhQi4-00767-00214696-00214869 doesn't really matter like I'm just 3D9NSFGhQi4-00768-00214869-00215076 using it for this or like I'm not really 3D9NSFGhQi4-00769-00215077-00215301 hashing their password or something 3D9NSFGhQi4-00770-00215302-00215742 along those lines it you can use sha-256 3D9NSFGhQi4-00771-00215742-00216156 it's like super fast and strong so just 3D9NSFGhQi4-00772-00216157-00216465 use that for important actions like 3D9NSFGhQi4-00773-00216466-00217125 logging in confirming codes any kind of 3D9NSFGhQi4-00774-00217126-00217353 action that is either you know someone 3D9NSFGhQi4-00775-00217354-00217559 can brute force something or even if it 3D9NSFGhQi4-00776-00217560-00217917 just causes you financial loss put a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00777-00217917-00218162 rate limit on it 3D9NSFGhQi4-00778-00218163-00218408 don't put your secrets in your source 3D9NSFGhQi4-00779-00218409-00218858 code and it's it's kind of a hard thing 3D9NSFGhQi4-00780-00218859-00219015 because you're like well but my source 3D9NSFGhQi4-00781-00219016-00219182 codes right here and then like well 3D9NSFGhQi4-00782-00219183-00219402 where do I put my secrets and so on the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00783-00219403-00219627 thing is if you have someone steal your 3D9NSFGhQi4-00784-00219628-00219813 source code which happens because it 3D9NSFGhQi4-00785-00219814-00220067 happened to Ashley Madison you don't 3D9NSFGhQi4-00786-00220069-00220242 want to have your secrets right there in 3D9NSFGhQi4-00787-00220242-00220455 the code and certainly don't put them on 3D9NSFGhQi4-00788-00220456-00220748 github which I get it happens like all 3D9NSFGhQi4-00789-00220750-00221082 the time so if you just don't have them 3D9NSFGhQi4-00790-00221083-00221202 in your source code it's just in our 3D9NSFGhQi4-00791-00221203-00221442 problem and then finally you know 3D9NSFGhQi4-00792-00221442-00221684 this is I know it seems like such 3D9NSFGhQi4-00793-00221685-00221937 generic security advice like always use 3D9NSFGhQi4-00794-00221938-00222138 strong passwords but think about when 3D9NSFGhQi4-00795-00222139-00222257 you're at work and they're like oh we 3D9NSFGhQi4-00796-00222258-00222423 just set up this admin panel and like 3D9NSFGhQi4-00797-00222423-00222644 you know here's a password or whatever 3D9NSFGhQi4-00798-00222644-00222891 what if that admin panel ends up on the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00799-00222892-00223135 internet you don't want to be the person 3D9NSFGhQi4-00800-00223136-00223463 who's using the password password it 3D9NSFGhQi4-00801-00223464-00223752 you're not gonna feel good when your 3D9NSFGhQi4-00802-00223753-00223914 security team comes to you and says um 3D9NSFGhQi4-00803-00223915-00224148 by the way someone just logged in with 3D9NSFGhQi4-00804-00224148-00224301 your account and your password was 3D9NSFGhQi4-00805-00224302-00224758 password it's not a good time okay 3D9NSFGhQi4-00806-00224759-00225012 people always ask about resources I know 3D9NSFGhQi4-00807-00225013-00225264 people are asking Mike he probably knows 3D9NSFGhQi4-00808-00225265-00225540 better but if you're like totally new to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00809-00225541-00225698 web vulnerabilities check out the OWASP 3D9NSFGhQi4-00810-00225700-00226119 top 10 it is a good list it's very good 3D9NSFGhQi4-00811-00226119-00226338 reference if you're looking for like 3D9NSFGhQi4-00812-00226339-00226532 what should I do as opposed to what 3D9NSFGhQi4-00813-00226533-00226892 should I not do there's a new OS top-10 3D9NSFGhQi4-00814-00226894-00227156 of proactive security controls which 3D9NSFGhQi4-00815-00227157-00227316 sounds very formal but actually the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00816-00227317-00227534 documentation is it's very good to go 3D9NSFGhQi4-00817-00227535-00227676 through and it tells you things like 3D9NSFGhQi4-00818-00227677-00227919 think about who you trust and you know 3D9NSFGhQi4-00819-00227919-00228189 protect stuff and encrypt stuff it's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00820-00228190-00228332 just kind of like a good checklist to go 3D9NSFGhQi4-00821-00228333-00228642 through if you're looking for like hands 3D9NSFGhQi4-00822-00228642-00228998 on trying stuff out last two are 3D9NSFGhQi4-00823-00229000-00229173 actually from enthusiam but rails code 3D9NSFGhQi4-00824-00229173-00229491 is a no awesome project it's like a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00825-00229492-00229796 purposely vulnerable rails application 3D9NSFGhQi4-00826-00229798-00230046 but it also gives you like hints of like 3D9NSFGhQi4-00827-00230046-00230328 may you should try this or that and if 3D9NSFGhQi4-00828-00230329-00230456 you really want to it'll walk you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00829-00230457-00230632 through things so it's a good resource 3D9NSFGhQi4-00830-00230633-00230994 and then also envision has these SEC 3D9NSFGhQi4-00831-00230994-00231240 casts which you do have to sign up for 3D9NSFGhQi4-00832-00231241-00231498 but they're free and they're a pretty 3D9NSFGhQi4-00833-00231498-00231675 good resource for rails security and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00834-00231676-00231944 security in general both on like sort of 3D9NSFGhQi4-00835-00231946-00232208 defending against things and also trying 3D9NSFGhQi4-00836-00232209-00232692 to hack into stuff alright 3D9NSFGhQi4-00837-00232692-00233187 okay so made this slide so like I 3D9NSFGhQi4-00838-00233188-00233459 believe almost everyone at this 3D9NSFGhQi4-00839-00233460-00233667 conference is packin stickers to give 3D9NSFGhQi4-00840-00233667-00233913 away so if you would like one of these 3D9NSFGhQi4-00841-00233914-00234128 three I have them with me 3D9NSFGhQi4-00842-00234129-00234410 after the next talk we're gonna have a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00843-00234411-00234648 security birds of a feather I don't know 3D9NSFGhQi4-00844-00234648-00234765 where the does anyone know where those 3D9NSFGhQi4-00845-00234766-00234935 are 3D9NSFGhQi4-00846-00234936-00235638 say oh the lunch you okay so okay great 3D9NSFGhQi4-00847-00235639-00235869 so it's in the lunchroom zone' right 3D9NSFGhQi4-00848-00235869-00236088 after the next talk so if you want to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00849-00236089-00236208 come and talk to us about more of this 3D9NSFGhQi4-00850-00236209-00236454 stuff and if you live in the San 3D9NSFGhQi4-00851-00236455-00236712 Francisco Bay Area well not if you live 3D9NSFGhQi4-00852-00236713-00236867 there but if your company lives there 3D9NSFGhQi4-00853-00236867-00237111 feel free to contact me if you want me 3D9NSFGhQi4-00854-00237112-00237381 to come and talk at your company I'm 3D9NSFGhQi4-00855-00237382-00237582 happy to do that and this is where you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00856-00237583-00237855 can find me on the Internet thank you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00857-00237856-00238707 [Applause] 3D9NSFGhQi4-00858-00238708-00239040 and yes so the question is aren't those 3D9NSFGhQi4-00859-00239041-00239267 bug bounty payouts kind of low and 3D9NSFGhQi4-00860-00239267-00239694 there's like I can talk forever about 3D9NSFGhQi4-00861-00239694-00240142 bug bounties because it's a hard thing 3D9NSFGhQi4-00862-00240144-00240639 like what are things worth and I mean 3D9NSFGhQi4-00863-00240640-00240864 yeah maybe you think it's low maybe they 3D9NSFGhQi4-00864-00240865-00241044 think it's high you have to also 3D9NSFGhQi4-00865-00241044-00241203 consider like what's their budget for 3D9NSFGhQi4-00866-00241204-00241367 bug bounties of course Facebook has a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00867-00241369-00241819 ton of money so and yeah I mean the guy 3D9NSFGhQi4-00868-00241821-00242139 the other guy that did the Instagram 3D9NSFGhQi4-00869-00242140-00242415 thing his whole thing was like they 3D9NSFGhQi4-00870-00242416-00242505 should have paid me like a million 3D9NSFGhQi4-00871-00242506-00242886 dollars for this so yeah it's a it's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00872-00242887-00243081 it's tough honestly because I've been a 3D9NSFGhQi4-00873-00243082-00243258 part of a couple bug bounty programs on 3D9NSFGhQi4-00874-00243259-00243546 the like receiving side and it's very 3D9NSFGhQi4-00875-00243546-00243738 hard to think through like what's what's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00876-00243739-00243923 this worth how much do we pay how does 3D9NSFGhQi4-00877-00243925-00244044 it compare to other things that we've 3D9NSFGhQi4-00878-00244044-00244269 seen and I mean the thing is like is 3D9NSFGhQi4-00879-00244269-00244392 like wow this could destroy our business 3D9NSFGhQi4-00880-00244392-00244728 like like can you really go to your 3D9NSFGhQi4-00881-00244729-00244914 finance department and be like we'd like 3D9NSFGhQi4-00882-00244915-00245076 to pay them like half a million dollars 3D9NSFGhQi4-00883-00245077-00245223 like no one's gonna go for that right 3D9NSFGhQi4-00884-00245223-00245412 even if it could have wiped out their 3D9NSFGhQi4-00885-00245413-00245658 whole business so yeah so the question 3D9NSFGhQi4-00886-00245659-00245888 is where do you put your secrets because 3D9NSFGhQi4-00887-00245889-00246132 someone has to actually use them at some 3D9NSFGhQi4-00888-00246133-00246417 point I mean there are products that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00889-00246417-00246630 will do it for you essentially you want 3D9NSFGhQi4-00890-00246631-00246957 to store them somewhere and make sure 3D9NSFGhQi4-00891-00246958-00247173 that only the servers that actually need 3D9NSFGhQi4-00892-00247173-00247638 certain keys get those keys that's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00893-00247639-00248061 basically the best you can do and then 3D9NSFGhQi4-00894-00248062-00248267 you know you protect that store of keys 3D9NSFGhQi4-00895-00248267-00248511 you know and the nice thing you know is 3D9NSFGhQi4-00896-00248512-00248664 if you automate all that then you can 3D9NSFGhQi4-00897-00248665-00248939 rotate them really easily which is nice 3D9NSFGhQi4-00898-00248940-00249269 but yeah you basically just you know you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00899-00249271-00249462 got to put them somewhere and then make 3D9NSFGhQi4-00900-00249463-00249633 sure they're encrypted there and then 3D9NSFGhQi4-00901-00249634-00249846 make sure they only go to the boxes that 3D9NSFGhQi4-00902-00249846-00250083 need them and that access to that you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00903-00250084-00250308 know like you don't want someone using 3D9NSFGhQi4-00904-00250309-00250617 the the rails CVE that Mike mentioned to 3D9NSFGhQi4-00905-00250617-00250977 read those files if you can help it yeah 3D9NSFGhQi4-00906-00250978-00251139 so the question is even when you're 3D9NSFGhQi4-00907-00251140-00251348 doing it that way like how do you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00908-00251348-00251610 securely transfer them between servers I 3D9NSFGhQi4-00909-00251611-00251798 mean I gotta say like at some point you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00910-00251800-00251988 reached a point where you're like okay 3D9NSFGhQi4-00911-00251989-00252090 like it's 3D9NSFGhQi4-00912-00252091-00252327 safe enough you know because really the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00913-00252328-00252558 main thing is them sitting on servers 3D9NSFGhQi4-00914-00252559-00252773 where they shouldn't be or being too 3D9NSFGhQi4-00915-00252775-00252954 widely available you don't want everyone 3D9NSFGhQi4-00916-00252955-00253167 in your company to have access to the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00917-00253167-00253488 main keys of course when you're when you 3D9NSFGhQi4-00918-00253489-00253646 are transferring them I mean you could 3D9NSFGhQi4-00919-00253648-00253932 just use a CP or something and you can 3D9NSFGhQi4-00920-00253933-00254238 have keys on you'd have keyless I mean 3D9NSFGhQi4-00921-00254239-00254457 you'd be using SSH keys on the servers 3D9NSFGhQi4-00922-00254458-00254771 yeah or I mean if you want you can crypt 3D9NSFGhQi4-00923-00254773-00255081 them and send them over SSH and decrypt 3D9NSFGhQi4-00924-00255082-00255363 them on the box I mean you know but then 3D9NSFGhQi4-00925-00255364-00255548 you have like you said the next level 3D9NSFGhQi4-00926-00255550-00255690 like well but then we have to share the 3D9NSFGhQi4-00927-00255691-00256083 key to decrypt it and yeah yeah like I 3D9NSFGhQi4-00928-00256084-00256191 said there are like kind of commercial 3D9NSFGhQi4-00929-00256192-00256442 solutions there are also open source 3D9NSFGhQi4-00930-00256444-00256673 solutions actually you can look into 3D9NSFGhQi4-00931-00256675-00256992 but yeah it's honestly it's just a hard 3D9NSFGhQi4-00932-00256992-00257208 problem and I think you just have to get 3D9NSFGhQi4-00933-00257209-00257421 to where like this is not our weakest 3D9NSFGhQi4-00934-00257421-00257715 point anymore there's a question over 3D9NSFGhQi4-00935-00257716-00258114 here I thought no okay all right well 3D9NSFGhQi4-00936-00258115-00258207 thank you very much 3D9NSFGhQi4-00937-00258208-00259408 [Applause] 3D9NSFGhQi4-00938-00259409-00259616 you 3EFadMcfDv8-00000-00000215-00001354 Escape 3EFadMcfDv8-00001-00001355-00002348 once 3EFadMcfDv8-00002-00002349-00003201 [Music] 3EFadMcfDv8-00003-00003202-00003535 [Music] 3EFadMcfDv8-00004-00003536-00003970 the presents suspends 3EFadMcfDv8-00005-00003971-00004577 foreign 3EFadMcfDv8-00006-00004578-00004822 welcome weirdos I'm Darren marlar and 3EFadMcfDv8-00007-00004823-00005038 this is retro radio Sunday on weird 3EFadMcfDv8-00008-00005039-00005141 Darkness 3EFadMcfDv8-00009-00005142-00005333 each week I bring you a show from the 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beginning of network 3EFadMcfDv8-00038-00011525-00011819 radio first heard over NBC in the fall 3EFadMcfDv8-00039-00011820-00012077 of 1930 The Adventures of the brilliant 3EFadMcfDv8-00040-00012078-00012335 london-based Consulting detective would 3EFadMcfDv8-00041-00012336-00012533 eventually appear on all three networks 3EFadMcfDv8-00042-00012534-00012808 over the next 20 years portrayed by a 3EFadMcfDv8-00043-00012809-00013055 wide range of performers including in 3EFadMcfDv8-00044-00013056-00013330 homes on-air debut William Gillette who 3EFadMcfDv8-00045-00013331-00013493 had appeared on stage as the master 3EFadMcfDv8-00046-00013494-00013769 detective for the previous two decades 3EFadMcfDv8-00047-00013769-00014027 though Holmes and Dr John Watson his 3EFadMcfDv8-00048-00014028-00014297 friend right-hand man and chronicler his 3EFadMcfDv8-00049-00014297-00014501 Boswell as Holmes called him were 3EFadMcfDv8-00050-00014502-00014686 portrayed by a number of actors on 3EFadMcfDv8-00051-00014687-00014915 screen and on radio throughout the 1930s 3EFadMcfDv8-00052-00014916-00015155 the appearance of Basil Rathbone and 3EFadMcfDv8-00053-00015156-00015472 Nigel Bruce in the 1939 20th Century Fox 3EFadMcfDv8-00054-00015473-00015653 film The Hound of the Baskervilles 3EFadMcfDv8-00055-00015654-00015958 created for many the perfect embodiment 3EFadMcfDv8-00056-00015959-00016097 of the characters 3EFadMcfDv8-00057-00016097-00016300 Rathbone with this aqualine features 3EFadMcfDv8-00058-00016301-00016480 fitted the Inverness cape and 3EFadMcfDv8-00059-00016481-00016786 deerstalker cap perfectly and bore more 3EFadMcfDv8-00060-00016787-00016967 than a slight resemblance to the Sydney 3EFadMcfDv8-00061-00016968-00017194 Paget drawings which had illustrated The 3EFadMcfDv8-00062-00017195-00017455 Original Stories in the Strand magazine 3EFadMcfDv8-00063-00017456-00017711 Bruce though little resembling the 3EFadMcfDv8-00064-00017712-00017944 character created by Conan Doyle still 3EFadMcfDv8-00065-00017945-00018125 brought a warmth and somewhat bumbling 3EFadMcfDv8-00066-00018126-00018377 charm to Watson which balanced nicely 3EFadMcfDv8-00067-00018378-00018665 with the sometimes arrogant homes so for 3EFadMcfDv8-00068-00018666-00018886 the next six years Rathbone and Bruce 3EFadMcfDv8-00069-00018887-00019091 would come to be seen as Holmes and 3EFadMcfDv8-00070-00019092-00019408 Watson in the flesh both on radio in 3EFadMcfDv8-00071-00019409-00019679 series for NBC and mutual and in a 3EFadMcfDv8-00072-00019680-00019864 lengthy series of second features made 3EFadMcfDv8-00073-00019865-00020194 for both Fox and Universal through 1945. 3EFadMcfDv8-00074-00020195-00020561 by the middle of 1946 however basil 3EFadMcfDv8-00075-00020562-00020794 Rathbone had grown weary of playing 3EFadMcfDv8-00076-00020795-00021071 Holmes so much so in fact that he 3EFadMcfDv8-00077-00021072-00021322 refused to sign a lucrative seven-year 3EFadMcfDv8-00078-00021323-00021580 radio contract a classically trained 3EFadMcfDv8-00079-00021581-00021803 actor who had previously played a 3EFadMcfDv8-00080-00021804-00022055 multitude of varying roles on stage and 3EFadMcfDv8-00081-00022056-00022283 in Motion Pictures Rathbone was 3EFadMcfDv8-00082-00022284-00022522 understandably concerned that his 3EFadMcfDv8-00083-00022523-00022703 six-year tenure as the Baker Street 3EFadMcfDv8-00084-00022704-00022936 detective might well have Typecast him 3EFadMcfDv8-00085-00022937-00023135 against the possibility of being offered 3EFadMcfDv8-00086-00023136-00023485 other rules and so at the end of the 3EFadMcfDv8-00087-00023486-00023819 1945-46 season the producers of The New 3EFadMcfDv8-00088-00023820-00024053 Adventures of Sherlock Holmes faced the 3EFadMcfDv8-00089-00024054-00024275 necessity of finding another actor to 3EFadMcfDv8-00090-00024276-00024467 play the leading part and after 3EFadMcfDv8-00091-00024468-00024683 considering a number of talented members 3EFadMcfDv8-00092-00024684-00024875 of Hollywood's British colony happened 3EFadMcfDv8-00093-00024876-00025175 upon the name of Tom Conway the man 3EFadMcfDv8-00094-00025176-00025408 taking the hats and pipe in tonight's 3EFadMcfDv8-00095-00025409-00025505 episode 3EFadMcfDv8-00096-00025506-00025727 born in Russia and educated in England 3EFadMcfDv8-00097-00025727-00026002 Tom Conway was certainly no stranger to 3EFadMcfDv8-00098-00026004-00026206 the detective genre having taken over 3EFadMcfDv8-00099-00026207-00026411 the movie role of the Falcon from his 3EFadMcfDv8-00100-00026412-00026735 brother George Sanders in 1942. Suave 3EFadMcfDv8-00101-00026736-00026974 well spoken and handsome Conway 3EFadMcfDv8-00102-00026975-00027220 continued to play the Falcon in 10 3EFadMcfDv8-00103-00027222-00027574 series entries for RKO through 1946 and 3EFadMcfDv8-00104-00027575-00027755 also appeared in such classic bee 3EFadMcfDv8-00105-00027756-00028012 pictures as Val luton's cat people in 3EFadMcfDv8-00106-00028013-00028445 1942 and I walked with a zombie in 1943. 3EFadMcfDv8-00107-00028445-00028655 in addition his seasoned acting 3EFadMcfDv8-00108-00028656-00028864 abilities had given him the ability to 3EFadMcfDv8-00109-00028866-00029135 adopt a voice and delivery very similar 3EFadMcfDv8-00110-00029136-00029381 to that of Rathbone performing his lines 3EFadMcfDv8-00111-00029382-00029620 in much the same clipped and precise way 3EFadMcfDv8-00112-00029622-00029890 that his predecessor had done he quickly 3EFadMcfDv8-00113-00029891-00030155 equated himself with the role and in the 3EFadMcfDv8-00114-00030156-00030352 company of Nigel Bruce who opted to stay 3EFadMcfDv8-00115-00030354-00030520 with the series in exchange for being 3EFadMcfDv8-00116-00030522-00030701 assigned star billing in the weekly 3EFadMcfDv8-00117-00030702-00030946 Adventures was introduced as Sherlock 3EFadMcfDv8-00118-00030947-00031252 Holmes in October of 1946. 3EFadMcfDv8-00119-00031254-00031577 however by this time audiences had come 3EFadMcfDv8-00120-00031577-00031787 to think of Rathbone and Bruce as 3EFadMcfDv8-00121-00031788-00032117 literally being Holmes and Watson not 3EFadMcfDv8-00122-00032118-00032302 surprising given their lengthy run as 3EFadMcfDv8-00123-00032303-00032543 the characters on both radio and in 14 3EFadMcfDv8-00124-00032544-00032812 Motion Pictures and even though Conway 3EFadMcfDv8-00125-00032813-00033011 made a very credible and believable 3EFadMcfDv8-00126-00033012-00033233 homes particularly performing the 3EFadMcfDv8-00127-00033234-00033449 excellent series scripts by Dennis Green 3EFadMcfDv8-00128-00033450-00033671 and Anthony Boucher the same team who 3EFadMcfDv8-00129-00033672-00033827 had written for Rathbone and Bruce 3EFadMcfDv8-00130-00033828-00034018 throughout the War years a combination 3EFadMcfDv8-00131-00034019-00034211 of rathbone's departure and the 3EFadMcfDv8-00132-00034212-00034385 inevitable loss of interest in a series 3EFadMcfDv8-00133-00034386-00034552 that had been on the air for over six 3EFadMcfDv8-00134-00034553-00034811 years led to both Conway and Bruce 3EFadMcfDv8-00135-00034812-00035040 leading the roles at the end of the 3EFadMcfDv8-00136-00035041-00035231 1946-47 season 3EFadMcfDv8-00137-00035232-00035411 The New Adventures of Sherlock Holmes 3EFadMcfDv8-00138-00035412-00035639 would return The Following Season moving 3EFadMcfDv8-00139-00035640-00035861 from Hollywood to New York and being 3EFadMcfDv8-00140-00035862-00036095 recast with John Stanley and Alfred 3EFadMcfDv8-00141-00036096-00036268 Shirley in the leading roles 3EFadMcfDv8-00142-00036269-00036461 tonight though it's The New Adventures 3EFadMcfDv8-00143-00036462-00036701 of Sherlock Holmes with Tom Conway and 3EFadMcfDv8-00144-00036702-00036833 Nigel Bruce 3EFadMcfDv8-00145-00036834-00037085 in 1946 in addition to the newly cast 3EFadMcfDv8-00146-00037086-00037373 Tom Conway the series also moved from 3EFadMcfDv8-00147-00037374-00037661 Mutual Network to ABC formerly known as 3EFadMcfDv8-00148-00037662-00037883 blue Network and was given a few more 3EFadMcfDv8-00149-00037884-00038117 production values to boost interest as 3EFadMcfDv8-00150-00038118-00038333 well as a new sponsor the similar 3EFadMcfDv8-00151-00038334-00038507 company promoting their criminal hair 3EFadMcfDv8-00152-00038508-00038809 tonic and shampoo wisely The Producers 3EFadMcfDv8-00153-00038810-00039071 retained the framing device of Watson 3EFadMcfDv8-00154-00039072-00039317 introducing each story from the Cozy 3EFadMcfDv8-00155-00039318-00039611 scene of aspireside retired as radio 3EFadMcfDv8-00156-00039612-00039817 would have it comfortably in California 3EFadMcfDv8-00157-00039818-00040102 though unlike the earlier series with a 3EFadMcfDv8-00158-00040103-00040343 different sponsor a good doctor now 3EFadMcfDv8-00159-00040344-00040583 refrained from enjoying a glass of Petri 3EFadMcfDv8-00160-00040584-00040762 wine as he recounted his earlier 3EFadMcfDv8-00161-00040763-00041062 adventure with Sherlock Holmes now bolt 3EFadMcfDv8-00162-00041063-00041374 your doors lock your windows turn off 3EFadMcfDv8-00163-00041375-00041645 your lights and come with me into the 3EFadMcfDv8-00164-00041646-00041861 weird Darkness as we present an episode 3EFadMcfDv8-00165-00041862-00042071 from The New Adventures of Sherlock 3EFadMcfDv8-00166-00042072-00042557 Holmes from October 12 1946 entitled The 3EFadMcfDv8-00167-00042558-00043017 Adventure of the stuttering ghost 3EFadMcfDv8-00168-00043018-00043668 [Music] 3EFadMcfDv8-00169-00043669-00043990 [Music] 3EFadMcfDv8-00170-00043991-00044218 criminal hair tonic and criminal shampoo 3EFadMcfDv8-00171-00044219-00044405 present The New Adventures of Sherlock 3EFadMcfDv8-00172-00044406-00044693 Holmes starring Nigel Bruce as Dr Watson 3EFadMcfDv8-00173-00044694-00045718 and Tom Conway as Sherlock Holmes 3EFadMcfDv8-00174-00045719-00046455 foreign 3EFadMcfDv8-00175-00046456-00046702 [Music] 3EFadMcfDv8-00176-00046703-00046937 once again it's time to renew our weekly 3EFadMcfDv8-00177-00046938-00047117 visits with that genial host an 3EFadMcfDv8-00178-00047118-00047423 incomparable Storyteller Dr Watson and 3EFadMcfDv8-00179-00047424-00047579 here he is waiting for us in his 3EFadMcfDv8-00180-00047580-00047824 comfortable and familiar study hello Dr 3EFadMcfDv8-00181-00047825-00047980 Watson it's mighty good to see you again 3EFadMcfDv8-00182-00047981-00048196 good evening Mr Bell good gracious me 3EFadMcfDv8-00183-00048197-00048407 it's a long time since you last dropped 3EFadMcfDv8-00184-00048408-00048707 it let's see man too long entirely but 3EFadMcfDv8-00185-00048708-00048893 I'm certainly glad to be back I'm glad 3EFadMcfDv8-00186-00048894-00049096 to have you back my boy this seems like 3EFadMcfDv8-00187-00049097-00049373 old time thank you sir by the way I 3EFadMcfDv8-00188-00049374-00049505 heard you had quite a trip this summer 3EFadMcfDv8-00189-00049506-00049685 went back to England didn't you yes Mr 3EFadMcfDv8-00190-00049686-00049889 Bell I must have had a very delightful 3EFadMcfDv8-00191-00049890-00050068 time renewing old friendships 3EFadMcfDv8-00192-00050069-00050255 incidentally I think you'll be 3EFadMcfDv8-00193-00050256-00050429 particularly interested in one visit 3EFadMcfDv8-00194-00050430-00050711 that I made it was to the votes of Cox's 3EFadMcfDv8-00195-00050712-00051077 Bank in Charing Cross Cox's Bank oh that 3EFadMcfDv8-00196-00051078-00051232 was the home of your old black tin 3EFadMcfDv8-00197-00051233-00051449 dispatch box wasn't it the one that 3EFadMcfDv8-00198-00051450-00051575 contained all the notes on your 3EFadMcfDv8-00199-00051576-00051742 adventures with a great Sherlock Holmes 3EFadMcfDv8-00200-00051744-00051970 it was my boy we have a very good memory 3EFadMcfDv8-00201-00051971-00052175 and by any chance is that the Box 3EFadMcfDv8-00202-00052176-00052319 Standing There on your table now 3EFadMcfDv8-00203-00052320-00052535 certainly is I brought it back with me 3EFadMcfDv8-00204-00052536-00052697 you see I found it contained a better 3EFadMcfDv8-00205-00052698-00052985 put Treasure Trove of material notes on 3EFadMcfDv8-00206-00052986-00053176 adventures that I'd forgotten and in 3EFadMcfDv8-00207-00053177-00053375 some cases stories at Sherlock Holmes 3EFadMcfDv8-00208-00053376-00053585 insisters must not be published during 3EFadMcfDv8-00209-00053586-00053926 the lifetime of certain famous people 3EFadMcfDv8-00210-00053927-00054197 involved ew that certainly is a treasure 3EFadMcfDv8-00211-00054198-00054407 Trove and do you mind if I take a peek 3EFadMcfDv8-00212-00054408-00054757 in the sacred box 3EFadMcfDv8-00213-00054758-00055150 y paper is all tied up in tape 3EFadMcfDv8-00214-00055151-00055426 an old signatory oh that's just a token 3EFadMcfDv8-00215-00055427-00055607 of the Duke of bedford's esteem never 3EFadMcfDv8-00216-00055608-00055865 did fit hey what's this Dr Watson a 3EFadMcfDv8-00217-00055866-00056116 small dog collar yes might buy a small 3EFadMcfDv8-00218-00056117-00056332 dog collar and it brings to mind one of 3EFadMcfDv8-00219-00056333-00056513 the most exciting Bizarre Adventures of 3EFadMcfDv8-00220-00056514-00056747 Sherlock Holmes and I ever encountered I 3EFadMcfDv8-00221-00056748-00056944 always referred to it as the adventure 3EFadMcfDv8-00222-00056945-00057263 of the stuttering ghost stuttering ghost 3EFadMcfDv8-00223-00057264-00057557 that sounds provocative Dr Watson I hope 3EFadMcfDv8-00224-00057558-00057815 you'll find its home Mr Bell in just a 3EFadMcfDv8-00225-00057816-00057994 moment Dr Watson will tell us the story 3EFadMcfDv8-00226-00057995-00058175 of the stuttering ghost 3EFadMcfDv8-00227-00058176-00058421 but first I'd like to ask a question 3EFadMcfDv8-00228-00058422-00058679 men wouldn't you like to feel that your 3EFadMcfDv8-00229-00058679-00058925 hair always looks its best that it 3EFadMcfDv8-00230-00058926-00059165 always appears neat and attractive 3EFadMcfDv8-00231-00059166-00059542 then let me suggest cremel hair tonic 3EFadMcfDv8-00232-00059544-00059794 this famous modern hairdressing has been 3EFadMcfDv8-00233-00059795-00060059 especially developed to keep wild unruly 3EFadMcfDv8-00234-00060060-00060376 hair handsomely groomed all day not a 3EFadMcfDv8-00235-00060377-00060526 lock out of place 3EFadMcfDv8-00236-00060527-00060754 and kremel gives the hair such a nice 3EFadMcfDv8-00237-00060755-00061025 rich luster too yet it never never 3EFadMcfDv8-00238-00061026-00061230 leaves the hair feeling or looking 3EFadMcfDv8-00239-00061232-00061582 greasy or sticky why not buy a bottle 3EFadMcfDv8-00240-00061583-00061780 and prove to yourself that kremel is 3EFadMcfDv8-00241-00061782-00062149 tops for better groomed hair 3EFadMcfDv8-00242-00062150-00062488 k-r-e-m-l cremel hair tummy 3EFadMcfDv8-00243-00062489-00062788 now Dr Watson the floor is yours well Mr 3EFadMcfDv8-00244-00062789-00062980 Bell the story began on a certain 3EFadMcfDv8-00245-00062982-00063287 September afternoon in well more years 3EFadMcfDv8-00246-00063288-00063616 ago and I and I like to admit Holmes and 3EFadMcfDv8-00247-00063617-00063749 I were seated in our Baker Street 3EFadMcfDv8-00248-00063750-00063959 lodgings having returned a few hours 3EFadMcfDv8-00249-00063960-00064204 previously from a much needed holiday in 3EFadMcfDv8-00250-00064205-00064307 Devonshire 3EFadMcfDv8-00251-00064308-00064492 though our trip had proved far from 3EFadMcfDv8-00252-00064494-00064744 restful as far as I was concerned I 3EFadMcfDv8-00253-00064745-00064888 could see that the change had worked 3EFadMcfDv8-00254-00064889-00065147 wonders for my old friend there was a 3EFadMcfDv8-00255-00065148-00065363 distinct Touch of color and is usually 3EFadMcfDv8-00256-00065364-00065591 pale face and I knew about a sparkle in 3EFadMcfDv8-00257-00065592-00065759 his eye that he was happier to be back 3EFadMcfDv8-00258-00065760-00065987 in harness as he sat there skimming 3EFadMcfDv8-00259-00065988-00066173 through the letters that had accumulated 3EFadMcfDv8-00260-00066174-00066371 during his app 3EFadMcfDv8-00261-00066372-00066659 Watson has it ever occurred to you that 3EFadMcfDv8-00262-00066660-00066821 the entire course of history might have 3EFadMcfDv8-00263-00066822-00067061 been changed probably for the better if 3EFadMcfDv8-00264-00067062-00067229 paper and ink had never been invented oh 3EFadMcfDv8-00265-00067230-00067379 rubbish it's good to be back in Vegas 3EFadMcfDv8-00266-00067380-00067709 dude again hey Holmes yes back to the 3EFadMcfDv8-00267-00067710-00067894 routine of stupid letters from stupid 3EFadMcfDv8-00268-00067895-00068117 people after two peaceful weeks at the 3EFadMcfDv8-00269-00068118-00068399 seaside peaceful and you spent most of 3EFadMcfDv8-00270-00068400-00068800 your time solving the problem of 3EFadMcfDv8-00271-00068801-00068999 the laid merely a routine matter Watson 3EFadMcfDv8-00272-00069000-00069155 though it did have its points of 3EFadMcfDv8-00273-00069156-00069323 interest 3EFadMcfDv8-00274-00069324-00069544 anything startling in this morning's 3EFadMcfDv8-00275-00069545-00069779 post the usual trivialities 3EFadMcfDv8-00276-00069780-00069971 the Duke of Greenwich suspects The 3EFadMcfDv8-00277-00069972-00070121 Duchess of planning to elope with I'm 3EFadMcfDv8-00278-00070122-00070949 the footman oh knowing the Duke 3EFadMcfDv8-00279-00070950-00071435 icons anymore 3EFadMcfDv8-00280-00071436-00071675 this looks more promising huh what is it 3EFadMcfDv8-00281-00071676-00071837 herbs hmm 3EFadMcfDv8-00282-00071838-00072047 I shall present my problem to you at 3EFadMcfDv8-00283-00072048-00072269 three o'clock tomorrow afternoon 3EFadMcfDv8-00284-00072270-00072449 it's almost three now the letters dated 3EFadMcfDv8-00285-00072450-00072599 yesterday doesn't sound particularly 3EFadMcfDv8-00286-00072600-00072809 promising to me who's it from it's 3EFadMcfDv8-00287-00072810-00073006 simply signed Ferdinand 3EFadMcfDv8-00288-00073007-00073163 three odd 3EFadMcfDv8-00289-00073164-00073559 homes it might be royalty only raining 3EFadMcfDv8-00290-00073560-00073721 Monarch signed themselves to strangers 3EFadMcfDv8-00291-00073722-00073913 simply by their first names if you're 3EFadMcfDv8-00292-00073914-00074075 referring to Ferdinand of Spain he's 3EFadMcfDv8-00293-00074076-00074243 dead you know you're pulling my life 3EFadMcfDv8-00294-00074244-00074494 still I can't recall a Ferdinand on any 3EFadMcfDv8-00295-00074495-00074794 current European Throne nor can I and 3EFadMcfDv8-00296-00074795-00074963 yet there is a certain tone of Royal 3EFadMcfDv8-00297-00074964-00075203 parentariness in the phrasing 3EFadMcfDv8-00298-00075204-00075437 where's the front doorbell 3EFadMcfDv8-00299-00075438-00075593 it's exactly three o'clock 3EFadMcfDv8-00300-00075594-00075875 that could be him now yes 3EFadMcfDv8-00301-00075876-00076061 well Mrs Hudson answers the door suppose 3EFadMcfDv8-00302-00076062-00076247 we have another look at this note 3EFadMcfDv8-00303-00076248-00076432 expensive paper 3EFadMcfDv8-00304-00076433-00076649 written with a quill pin 3EFadMcfDv8-00305-00076650-00076888 and the presumably all Gus scribe was 3EFadMcfDv8-00306-00076889-00077069 unfortunate enough to get a smear of Ink 3EFadMcfDv8-00307-00077070-00077206 on the outer side of her right little 3EFadMcfDv8-00308-00077207-00077356 finger why'd you say her right little 3EFadMcfDv8-00309-00077357-00077641 finger it's a woman's writing 3EFadMcfDv8-00310-00077642-00077926 come in 3EFadMcfDv8-00311-00077927-00078173 yes Mrs Hudson you have a visit to Mr 3EFadMcfDv8-00312-00078174-00078406 romes and she's got a wee dog with her 3EFadMcfDv8-00313-00078407-00078599 she said you might be expecting her 3EFadMcfDv8-00314-00078600-00078893 we're on Mrs Hudson show up please yes a 3EFadMcfDv8-00315-00078894-00079121 woman and a wee dog and here we are 3EFadMcfDv8-00316-00079122-00079312 waiting for royalty Watson I've 3EFadMcfDv8-00317-00079313-00079517 sometimes observed a distinctly snobbish 3EFadMcfDv8-00318-00079518-00079715 strain on you most regrettable in these 3EFadMcfDv8-00319-00079716-00080347 Democratic days 3EFadMcfDv8-00320-00080348-00080681 you dear dear man 3EFadMcfDv8-00321-00080682-00080993 I've heard so much about you oh I 3EFadMcfDv8-00322-00080994-00081137 suppose you're wondering who I Am 3EFadMcfDv8-00323-00081138-00081437 Naturally Madam sit down one John may I 3EFadMcfDv8-00324-00081438-00081779 introduce my friend Dr Watson I do I'm 3EFadMcfDv8-00325-00081780-00082067 Mrs Frampton Mrs James Frampton that's 3EFadMcfDv8-00326-00082068-00082229 the buckinghamshire fountains you know 3EFadMcfDv8-00327-00082230-00082450 and I've traveled all the way up here 3EFadMcfDv8-00328-00082451-00082697 with darling little firstly oh he does 3EFadMcfDv8-00329-00082698-00082943 hey trains don't you see that 3EFadMcfDv8-00330-00082944-00083200 by the way Mrs Frampton would you mind 3EFadMcfDv8-00331-00083201-00083350 telling me why you signed your note 3EFadMcfDv8-00332-00083351-00083669 Ferdinand why Mr Holmes whatever makes 3EFadMcfDv8-00333-00083670-00083879 you think I wrote your note among other 3EFadMcfDv8-00334-00083880-00084094 things the slight trace of an ink stain 3EFadMcfDv8-00335-00084095-00084503 on your right little finger oh dear it's 3EFadMcfDv8-00336-00084504-00084715 so simple when you explain it isn't it 3EFadMcfDv8-00337-00084716-00085012 well since you're so clever I did write 3EFadMcfDv8-00338-00085013-00085253 that note but only because Ferdinand 3EFadMcfDv8-00339-00085254-00085429 here asked me too 3EFadMcfDv8-00340-00085430-00085744 yes the darling dictated it all by 3EFadMcfDv8-00341-00085745-00086023 himself he said 3EFadMcfDv8-00342-00086024-00086485 and I wrote it all down for it 3EFadMcfDv8-00343-00086486-00086711 don't you think Mrs Frampton that if 3EFadMcfDv8-00344-00086712-00086956 your dog has any problems a veteran or a 3EFadMcfDv8-00345-00086957-00087112 surgeon would be the illogical person to 3EFadMcfDv8-00346-00087113-00087215 consult 3EFadMcfDv8-00347-00087216-00087575 oh dear now you've upset it is so 3EFadMcfDv8-00348-00087576-00087731 terribly sensitive 3EFadMcfDv8-00349-00087732-00088012 Dr Watson I wonder if you'd mind taking 3EFadMcfDv8-00350-00088013-00088367 him out for a little walk who me I'd 3EFadMcfDv8-00351-00088368-00088529 much rather he was out of the way when I 3EFadMcfDv8-00352-00088530-00088756 tell Mr Holmes about him he's so human 3EFadMcfDv8-00353-00088757-00088997 you know I'm quite sure he understands 3EFadMcfDv8-00354-00088998-00089488 every word I say oh please 3EFadMcfDv8-00355-00089489-00089681 can't you see the little fellows dying 3EFadMcfDv8-00356-00089682-00089915 for some air I think a little walk would 3EFadMcfDv8-00357-00089916-00090131 do you both 3EFadMcfDv8-00358-00090132-00090323 oh well come along you little black 3EFadMcfDv8-00359-00090324-00090803 little fellow 3EFadMcfDv8-00360-00090804-00091043 and now Mrs Frampton may I ask what has 3EFadMcfDv8-00361-00091044-00091235 brought you to see me well Mr Holmes a 3EFadMcfDv8-00362-00091236-00091888 two weeks 3EFadMcfDv8-00363-00091889-00092129 you have the note with you yes yes it's 3EFadMcfDv8-00364-00092130-00092350 here on my purse 3EFadMcfDv8-00365-00092351-00092638 put your hands up Mr Holmes well that's 3EFadMcfDv8-00366-00092639-00092717 right 3EFadMcfDv8-00367-00092718-00092867 do you mind pointing that revolver 3EFadMcfDv8-00368-00092868-00093053 another way Mrs Frampton I have no 3EFadMcfDv8-00369-00093054-00093205 intention of pointing it another way 3EFadMcfDv8-00370-00093206-00093425 furthermore you'd be astonished at my 3EFadMcfDv8-00371-00093426-00093694 skill in using it not at all no when a 3EFadMcfDv8-00372-00093695-00093856 woman has the audacity to call on me 3EFadMcfDv8-00373-00093857-00094043 with the outline of a revolver plainly 3EFadMcfDv8-00374-00094044-00094265 visible through the side of her purse I 3EFadMcfDv8-00375-00094266-00094426 naturally assume she's able to use it 3EFadMcfDv8-00376-00094427-00094661 you knew I was armed I regret to say 3EFadMcfDv8-00377-00094662-00094882 that sometimes my curiosity overcomes my 3EFadMcfDv8-00378-00094883-00095129 caution and I was very curious as to the 3EFadMcfDv8-00379-00095130-00095297 purpose of the ridiculous rules of the 3EFadMcfDv8-00380-00095298-00095573 letter writing dog I still am you'll 3EFadMcfDv8-00381-00095574-00095723 very soon see 3EFadMcfDv8-00382-00095724-00095926 go and sit in that upright Chair by the 3EFadMcfDv8-00383-00095927-00096112 desk there 3EFadMcfDv8-00384-00096113-00096467 Mr Holmes I assure you I won't hesitate 3EFadMcfDv8-00385-00096468-00096712 to use this revolver go over to that 3EFadMcfDv8-00386-00096713-00096785 chair 3EFadMcfDv8-00387-00096786-00097121 very well sit down in it with your back 3EFadMcfDv8-00388-00097122-00097241 to me 3EFadMcfDv8-00389-00097242-00097409 that's it 3EFadMcfDv8-00390-00097410-00097612 I was admiring these handcuffs on your 3EFadMcfDv8-00391-00097613-00097750 metal piece 3EFadMcfDv8-00392-00097751-00097937 they'll do very well to fasten you to 3EFadMcfDv8-00393-00097938-00098087 the chair 3EFadMcfDv8-00394-00098088-00098303 put your hands behind you 3EFadMcfDv8-00395-00098304-00098543 thank you 3EFadMcfDv8-00396-00098544-00098776 what's the game is it Brampton daylight 3EFadMcfDv8-00397-00098777-00099167 robbery yes or murder if you don't help 3EFadMcfDv8-00398-00099168-00099353 me you realize that my friend is liable 3EFadMcfDv8-00399-00099354-00099568 to come back at any moment oh no Mr 3EFadMcfDv8-00400-00099569-00099773 Holmes that beastly dog was a deliberate 3EFadMcfDv8-00401-00099774-00100006 device to separate you or your friend a 3EFadMcfDv8-00402-00100007-00100126 colleague of mine will see that Dr 3EFadMcfDv8-00403-00100127-00100300 Watson is taken care of as soon as he 3EFadMcfDv8-00404-00100301-00100432 gets outside 3EFadMcfDv8-00405-00100433-00100685 and now Mr Holmes I do hope you're not 3EFadMcfDv8-00406-00100686-00101926 going to be too difficult 3EFadMcfDv8-00407-00101927-00102137 come along you stupid creature you don't 3EFadMcfDv8-00408-00102138-00102335 have to sniff every come on 3EFadMcfDv8-00409-00102336-00102610 playing nurse made to Pekingese hope I 3EFadMcfDv8-00410-00102611-00102760 don't want to do anyone I know come on 3EFadMcfDv8-00411-00102761-00103060 little bro come on excuse me we got a 3EFadMcfDv8-00412-00103061-00103289 match the matches 3EFadMcfDv8-00413-00103290-00103463 so he had a half a nice little dog 3EFadMcfDv8-00414-00103464-00103732 Governor what's his name his name never 3EFadMcfDv8-00415-00103733-00103942 mind you'll tell me about why are you 3EFadMcfDv8-00416-00103943-00104344 scared I'll put down that diesel advice 3EFadMcfDv8-00417-00104345-00104639 [Applause] 3EFadMcfDv8-00418-00104640-00104860 foreign 3EFadMcfDv8-00419-00104861-00106236 [Applause] 3EFadMcfDv8-00420-00106238-00106427 if you'll just tell me what you're 3EFadMcfDv8-00421-00106428-00106583 looking for I'll be delighted to tell 3EFadMcfDv8-00422-00106583-00106751 you where to find it there's no sense in 3EFadMcfDv8-00423-00106752-00106954 missing all my files up I want your 3EFadMcfDv8-00424-00106955-00107158 records of the rothier case in the third 3EFadMcfDv8-00425-00107159-00107477 draw of this cabinet oh 3EFadMcfDv8-00426-00107478-00107675 where here we are 3EFadMcfDv8-00427-00107676-00108066 N O P Q Randa 3EFadMcfDv8-00428-00108067-00108328 rossier well thank you Mr Sherlock 3EFadMcfDv8-00429-00108329-00108634 Holmes ah there's the rescue party but 3EFadMcfDv8-00430-00108635-00108827 it can't be Dr Watson Alfie was to take 3EFadMcfDv8-00431-00108828-00109025 care of him Dr Watson has resources that 3EFadMcfDv8-00432-00109026-00109199 might surprise you sometimes they 3EFadMcfDv8-00433-00109200-00109481 surprise even me well I I've got what I 3EFadMcfDv8-00434-00109482-00109936 came 3EFadMcfDv8-00435-00109938-00110201 Holmes I had the most amazing experience 3EFadMcfDv8-00436-00110202-00110434 since you were set upon by Ruffin in the 3EFadMcfDv8-00437-00110435-00110704 street the last for a match and then oh 3EFadMcfDv8-00438-00110705-00110951 how did you know Elementary my dear 3EFadMcfDv8-00439-00110952-00111154 Watson now please get the key off the 3EFadMcfDv8-00440-00111155-00111316 mantelpiece and unlock these handcuffs 3EFadMcfDv8-00441-00111317-00111677 good Heavens who trust you up like that 3EFadMcfDv8-00442-00111678-00111952 Mrs Frampton at revolver point you see 3EFadMcfDv8-00443-00111953-00112145 if you hadn't made me go out without two 3EFadMcfDv8-00444-00112146-00112265 little dogs you would never have 3EFadMcfDv8-00445-00112266-00112463 revealed her purpose in coming here 3EFadMcfDv8-00446-00112464-00112673 Watson the whole thing was a plot to 3EFadMcfDv8-00447-00112674-00112834 gain access to my files on the rotate 3EFadMcfDv8-00448-00112835-00113471 case 3EFadMcfDv8-00449-00113472-00113699 there you are 3EFadMcfDv8-00450-00113700-00113849 there you are how did that woman get out 3EFadMcfDv8-00451-00113850-00114065 obviously down the back stairs as you 3EFadMcfDv8-00452-00114066-00114286 didn't pass on the front I assume her 3EFadMcfDv8-00453-00114288-00114490 accomplice got away too yeah she 3EFadMcfDv8-00454-00114491-00114634 wouldn't have I hadn't tripped up over 3EFadMcfDv8-00455-00114635-00114833 the dog leash I left us a little beast 3EFadMcfDv8-00456-00114833-00115054 downstairs with Mrs Hudson suppose we 3EFadMcfDv8-00457-00115055-00115199 see if our caller took anything of any 3EFadMcfDv8-00458-00115200-00115343 consequence 3EFadMcfDv8-00459-00115344-00115457 homes 3EFadMcfDv8-00460-00115458-00115673 why should anyone go to such fantastic 3EFadMcfDv8-00461-00115674-00115943 stick lengths to steal the file on a 3EFadMcfDv8-00462-00115944-00116183 criminal case that happened years ago 3EFadMcfDv8-00463-00116183-00116404 that's what we have to find out 3EFadMcfDv8-00464-00116405-00116693 you'll recall the rothio fair Watson yes 3EFadMcfDv8-00465-00116694-00116854 I could do something to do with the 3EFadMcfDv8-00466-00116855-00117178 jewel robbery was it yes rothy and his 3EFadMcfDv8-00467-00117179-00117377 English accomplice a gentleman known as 3EFadMcfDv8-00468-00117378-00117628 stuttering Steve hacker stole the famous 3EFadMcfDv8-00469-00117629-00117869 Shrewsbury Emerald yes yes of course of 3EFadMcfDv8-00470-00117870-00118007 course the jewels were never recovered 3EFadMcfDv8-00471-00118008-00118163 but I was instrumental in bringing them 3EFadMcfDv8-00472-00118164-00118457 into Justice I remember it now rothea 3EFadMcfDv8-00473-00118458-00118649 was killed resisting arrest wasn't he 3EFadMcfDv8-00474-00118650-00118895 yes and stuttering Steve hacker was 3EFadMcfDv8-00475-00118896-00119152 sentenced to seven years in Dartmoor 3EFadMcfDv8-00476-00119153-00119410 by George Watson I recall reading a 3EFadMcfDv8-00477-00119411-00119573 small item in yesterday's paper that 3EFadMcfDv8-00478-00119574-00119771 told of Hacker's death in prison that's 3EFadMcfDv8-00479-00119772-00119933 the answer I mean that on his deathbed 3EFadMcfDv8-00480-00119933-00120077 hacker might have told someone The 3EFadMcfDv8-00481-00120078-00120227 Secret of where the juror is hidden 3EFadMcfDv8-00482-00120228-00120371 precisely 3EFadMcfDv8-00483-00120372-00120563 and the key to that secret must line 3EFadMcfDv8-00484-00120564-00120725 these files 3EFadMcfDv8-00485-00120726-00120881 let me see 3EFadMcfDv8-00486-00120882-00121195 yes yes I recall the case vivided now 3EFadMcfDv8-00487-00121196-00121457 there was a small piece of paper found 3EFadMcfDv8-00488-00121458-00121666 on ruthia's body and apparently 3EFadMcfDv8-00489-00121667-00121823 meaningless series of numbers and 3EFadMcfDv8-00490-00121824-00122243 figures it was uh here in the file now 3EFadMcfDv8-00491-00122244-00122507 She's Got Away With It Watson I deserve 3EFadMcfDv8-00492-00122508-00122657 to be kicked from here tonight's home 3EFadMcfDv8-00493-00122658-00122825 now listen to me I I was going through 3EFadMcfDv8-00494-00122826-00122975 the file a few weeks ago making some 3EFadMcfDv8-00495-00122976-00123101 notes of my stories and I remember 3EFadMcfDv8-00496-00123102-00123323 coming across that sip of paper I copied 3EFadMcfDv8-00497-00123324-00123508 the figures down my notebook Bravo 3EFadMcfDv8-00498-00123509-00123673 Watson I don't know what I'd ever do 3EFadMcfDv8-00499-00123674-00123886 just a minute just a minute here they 3EFadMcfDv8-00500-00123888-00124249 are ah here we are here are the figures 3EFadMcfDv8-00501-00124250-00124804 t2n 302 s5o 3EFadMcfDv8-00502-00124805-00125099 what the deuce does it mean Holmes I 3EFadMcfDv8-00503-00125100-00125284 don't know but I think I may have a 3EFadMcfDv8-00504-00125285-00125465 glimmering get your coat and hat old 3EFadMcfDv8-00505-00125466-00125621 chap the game's a foot where are we 3EFadMcfDv8-00506-00125622-00125819 going to Scotland Yard and then I hope 3EFadMcfDv8-00507-00125820-00125957 we'll be on the track of the Shrewsbury 3EFadMcfDv8-00508-00125958-00126164 emeralds 3EFadMcfDv8-00509-00126165-00126767 [Music] 3EFadMcfDv8-00510-00126768-00126907 [Music] 3EFadMcfDv8-00511-00126908-00127298 thank you 3EFadMcfDv8-00512-00127299-00127900 [Music] 3EFadMcfDv8-00513-00127901-00128413 [Music] 3EFadMcfDv8-00514-00128414-00128716 Ashley Holmes if you don't want to talk 3EFadMcfDv8-00515-00128717-00128860 you might at least tell me why we're 3EFadMcfDv8-00516-00128861-00129058 driving about in this dreary part of 3EFadMcfDv8-00517-00129059-00129301 London I don't care for it at all 3EFadMcfDv8-00518-00129302-00129610 especially at dusk sorry Watson I was 3EFadMcfDv8-00519-00129611-00129869 thinking inspectorless trout has just 3EFadMcfDv8-00520-00129870-00130019 informed me that he's Unearthed a new 3EFadMcfDv8-00521-00130020-00130240 clue in the case oh it seems that when 3EFadMcfDv8-00522-00130241-00130414 Raphael was hiding from the police he 3EFadMcfDv8-00523-00130415-00130558 worked for a time in this neighborhood 3EFadMcfDv8-00524-00130559-00130823 oh well at a place known as gaunt's 3EFadMcfDv8-00525-00130824-00131057 Castle it's somewhere here off the Milan 3EFadMcfDv8-00526-00131058-00131290 Road apparently it's a sort of Museum 3EFadMcfDv8-00527-00131291-00131531 run by a certain eccentric man named 3EFadMcfDv8-00528-00131532-00131789 jezra gaunt its main claim to 3EFadMcfDv8-00529-00131790-00131939 distinction is that it contains a 3EFadMcfDv8-00530-00131940-00132166 catacomb or to be precise several 3EFadMcfDv8-00531-00132167-00132401 catacombs or anything an ideal place to 3EFadMcfDv8-00532-00132402-00132611 hide stolen Jewels I'd say Santa Combs 3EFadMcfDv8-00533-00132612-00132881 here in London impossible not at all 3EFadMcfDv8-00534-00132882-00133031 Watson but I thought they were vast 3EFadMcfDv8-00535-00133032-00133277 underground tombs only under nuclear now 3EFadMcfDv8-00536-00133278-00133451 these are refuted to be reproductions of 3EFadMcfDv8-00537-00133452-00133607 the early catacombs of Rome good 3EFadMcfDv8-00538-00133608-00133804 gracious me apparently Mr gaunt found 3EFadMcfDv8-00539-00133805-00133985 these deep underground cabins some years 3EFadMcfDv8-00540-00133986-00134231 ago and their natural Contours made it 3EFadMcfDv8-00541-00134232-00134387 possible for him to convert them into a 3EFadMcfDv8-00542-00134388-00134633 modern counterpart of the Italian ones 3EFadMcfDv8-00543-00134634-00135019 all right Kevin this is the place 3EFadMcfDv8-00544-00135020-00135304 there you are keep the change thank you 3EFadMcfDv8-00545-00135305-00135940 Governor come on get up 3EFadMcfDv8-00546-00135941-00136228 so this is Grant's Castle it's lightning 3EFadMcfDv8-00547-00136229-00136511 looking place like a prison 3EFadMcfDv8-00548-00136512-00136781 it's getting dark why can't we come back 3EFadMcfDv8-00549-00136782-00136961 in the morning homes I think there's 3EFadMcfDv8-00550-00136962-00137081 somebody watching us through the 3EFadMcfDv8-00551-00137082-00137314 peephole in the door yes there would be 3EFadMcfDv8-00552-00137315-00137609 uh-huh he's opening it 3EFadMcfDv8-00553-00137610-00137914 good evening gentlemen you're late I was 3EFadMcfDv8-00554-00137915-00138077 just locking my museum up for the night 3EFadMcfDv8-00555-00138078-00138311 yo Mr Chester gone yes sir At Your 3EFadMcfDv8-00556-00138312-00138521 Service my name is Sherlock Holmes and 3EFadMcfDv8-00557-00138522-00138701 this is my friend Dr Watson how do you 3EFadMcfDv8-00558-00138702-00139054 do Mr Jones to Holmes and Dr Watson well 3EFadMcfDv8-00559-00139055-00139307 this is a great honor please step inside 3EFadMcfDv8-00560-00139308-00139501 gentlemen 3EFadMcfDv8-00561-00139502-00139966 I'll turn the gas up there I hope you'll 3EFadMcfDv8-00562-00139967-00140183 find the castle as I call it interesting 3EFadMcfDv8-00563-00140184-00140531 Mr gaunt time is vitally important some 3EFadMcfDv8-00564-00140532-00140687 three years ago you had a man working 3EFadMcfDv8-00565-00140688-00140897 for you as a laborer his name was 3EFadMcfDv8-00566-00140898-00141161 rothier yeah I can't recall any man of 3EFadMcfDv8-00567-00141162-00141377 that name Mr hope he was a Frenchman Mr 3EFadMcfDv8-00568-00141378-00141539 gone does that mean anything to him oh 3EFadMcfDv8-00569-00141540-00141725 I'm sorry but in this part of London 3EFadMcfDv8-00570-00141726-00141947 there are many foreigners and many of 3EFadMcfDv8-00571-00141948-00142157 them have worked for me but this man 3EFadMcfDv8-00572-00142158-00142361 will say was a jewel thief he is known 3EFadMcfDv8-00573-00142362-00142481 to have hidden some very valuable 3EFadMcfDv8-00574-00142482-00142697 emeralds and it seems quite possible he 3EFadMcfDv8-00575-00142698-00142907 may have hidden them here 3EFadMcfDv8-00576-00142908-00143189 stolen drills in my categories Mr Holmes 3EFadMcfDv8-00577-00143190-00143387 oh no I want you to give us your 3EFadMcfDv8-00578-00143388-00143585 permission to deduct a detailed 3EFadMcfDv8-00579-00143586-00143764 examination of your caves and to take 3EFadMcfDv8-00580-00143765-00144095 some measurements 3EFadMcfDv8-00581-00144096-00144401 yeah coincidence coincidence yes a man 3EFadMcfDv8-00582-00144402-00144575 and a woman were here a little while ago 3EFadMcfDv8-00583-00144576-00144773 I didn't pay much attention to them as 3EFadMcfDv8-00584-00144774-00144964 they entered but I happened to observe 3EFadMcfDv8-00585-00144965-00145151 them later in the catacombs they were 3EFadMcfDv8-00586-00145152-00145366 taking measurements by Joe Holmes go on 3EFadMcfDv8-00587-00145367-00145559 Mr gaunt when they saw I was watching 3EFadMcfDv8-00588-00145560-00145751 them they were very evasive and left 3EFadMcfDv8-00589-00145752-00145990 after a few moments until you mentioned 3EFadMcfDv8-00590-00145991-00146164 taking measurements the whole incident 3EFadMcfDv8-00591-00146165-00146345 seemed unimportant it was far from 3EFadMcfDv8-00592-00146346-00146549 unimportant Mr gaunt they are desperate 3EFadMcfDv8-00593-00146550-00146759 we must work fast they will start our 3EFadMcfDv8-00594-00146760-00146999 search at once of course of course I'll 3EFadMcfDv8-00595-00147000-00147199 go and light the gas 3EFadMcfDv8-00596-00147200-00147437 Holmes Mrs Frampton that accomplished to 3EFadMcfDv8-00597-00147438-00147557 attack me must have come here straight 3EFadMcfDv8-00598-00147558-00147707 from Baker Street yes and they'll be 3EFadMcfDv8-00599-00147708-00147904 back probably tonight it's a Race 3EFadMcfDv8-00600-00147905-00148085 Against Time well so far they apparently 3EFadMcfDv8-00601-00148086-00148235 haven't succeeded in deciphering the 3EFadMcfDv8-00602-00148236-00148463 code and neither have we Watson is a 3EFadMcfDv8-00603-00148464-00148661 battle of wits oh really they won the 3EFadMcfDv8-00604-00148662-00148828 first round let's hope we can win the 3EFadMcfDv8-00605-00148829-00149069 second 3EFadMcfDv8-00606-00149070-00149923 foreign 3EFadMcfDv8-00607-00149924-00150178 Dr Watson will continue his story in 3EFadMcfDv8-00608-00150179-00150389 just a moment in the meantime I'd like 3EFadMcfDv8-00609-00150390-00150581 to say and just see if you don't agree 3EFadMcfDv8-00610-00150582-00150863 with me any man who wants that modern 3EFadMcfDv8-00611-00150864-00151090 prosperous appearance should certainly 3EFadMcfDv8-00612-00151091-00151259 use a hairdressing 3EFadMcfDv8-00613-00151260-00151523 and Men I'm right here to tell you I 3EFadMcfDv8-00614-00151524-00151721 wouldn't use anything else but kremel 3EFadMcfDv8-00615-00151722-00151990 hair tonic do you know why because 3EFadMcfDv8-00616-00151991-00152213 kremel is one hair tonic I've been able 3EFadMcfDv8-00617-00152214-00152440 to find that really keeps my hair well 3EFadMcfDv8-00618-00152441-00152783 groomed every hair neatly in place yet 3EFadMcfDv8-00619-00152784-00153028 it never has that greasy plastered down 3EFadMcfDv8-00620-00153029-00153119 look 3EFadMcfDv8-00621-00153120-00153407 grandma always feels and smells so clean 3EFadMcfDv8-00622-00153408-00153676 on your hair in addition kremel does 3EFadMcfDv8-00623-00153677-00153845 lots more than just keep hair looking 3EFadMcfDv8-00624-00153846-00154090 handsome it relieves itching of dry 3EFadMcfDv8-00625-00154091-00154426 scalp it removes dandruff flakes kremel 3EFadMcfDv8-00626-00154427-00154666 actually helps condition the hair in 3EFadMcfDv8-00627-00154667-00154871 that it leaves it feeling so much softer 3EFadMcfDv8-00628-00154872-00155057 easier to manage 3EFadMcfDv8-00629-00155058-00155278 why not ask for an application of cremel 3EFadMcfDv8-00630-00155279-00155525 at your Barbershop buy a bottle at any 3EFadMcfDv8-00631-00155526-00155771 drug counter just see how attractive 3EFadMcfDv8-00632-00155772-00156025 looking it keeps your hair that's right 3EFadMcfDv8-00633-00156026-00156295 it's spelled 3EFadMcfDv8-00634-00156296-00156887 k-r-e-m-l cremel hair tonic 3EFadMcfDv8-00635-00156888-00157301 foreign 3EFadMcfDv8-00636-00157302-00157504 Dr Watson how did you and the great 3EFadMcfDv8-00637-00157505-00157654 Sherlock Holmes make out when you 3EFadMcfDv8-00638-00157655-00157895 explored the underground caves for that 3EFadMcfDv8-00639-00157896-00158087 first hour we searched that strange 3EFadMcfDv8-00640-00158088-00158273 place exhaustively without finding a 3EFadMcfDv8-00641-00158274-00158549 clue then I remember we descended into 3EFadMcfDv8-00642-00158550-00158783 one of the deepest and darkest caves 3EFadMcfDv8-00643-00158784-00159016 must have been a weird picture as we 3EFadMcfDv8-00644-00159017-00159287 stood there our voices echoing Holloway 3EFadMcfDv8-00645-00159288-00159551 a vast Black Chasm yawning in front of 3EFadMcfDv8-00646-00159552-00159754 us and a feeble flicker of Gaslight 3EFadMcfDv8-00647-00159755-00160019 throwing a pool of light on the piece of 3EFadMcfDv8-00648-00160020-00160219 paper which Holmes held in his hand 3EFadMcfDv8-00649-00160220-00160457 Watson I'm certain the figures on this 3EFadMcfDv8-00650-00160458-00160583 paper are the clue to the missing 3EFadMcfDv8-00651-00160584-00161047 emeralds but why can't I get the code 3EFadMcfDv8-00652-00161048-00161364 T2 n 3EFadMcfDv8-00653-00161365-00161521 302 3EFadMcfDv8-00654-00161522-00161789 S5 oh they might be pacing Direction 3EFadMcfDv8-00655-00161790-00161981 obviously but beginning where I don't 3EFadMcfDv8-00656-00161982-00162233 know but 2N could be two places north 3EFadMcfDv8-00657-00162234-00162713 still how about T and an O the T being 3EFadMcfDv8-00658-00162714-00162881 the first letters presumably the 3EFadMcfDv8-00659-00162882-00163073 starting point but what does it stand 3EFadMcfDv8-00660-00163074-00163414 for but of course here's the answer look 3EFadMcfDv8-00661-00163415-00163601 here on the wall you mean that colored 3EFadMcfDv8-00662-00163602-00163811 tablet yes it's a common early Christian 3EFadMcfDv8-00663-00163812-00163997 symbol known as Saint Anthony's cross 3EFadMcfDv8-00664-00163998-00164278 and it's also the Greek letter T this is 3EFadMcfDv8-00665-00164279-00164428 our starting point T is the first letter 3EFadMcfDv8-00666-00164429-00164699 in this code then comes two n 3EFadMcfDv8-00667-00164700-00164849 let's try it 3EFadMcfDv8-00668-00164850-00165076 two paces North 3EFadMcfDv8-00669-00165077-00165389 so then comes the letter oh oh it could 3EFadMcfDv8-00670-00165390-00165701 it could mean zero yes it could all 3EFadMcfDv8-00671-00165702-00165971 Chapel it might be no no I had it 3EFadMcfDv8-00672-00165972-00166139 remember that Ruth here was a Frenchman 3EFadMcfDv8-00673-00166140-00166283 what's that got to do with it the French 3EFadMcfDv8-00674-00166284-00166543 word for West is a West spelled 3EFadMcfDv8-00675-00166544-00166811 o-u-e-s-d French compasses happen oh 3EFadMcfDv8-00676-00166812-00167189 where ours have the W two faces North 3EFadMcfDv8-00677-00167190-00167357 three oh 3EFadMcfDv8-00678-00167358-00167626 three bases West 3EFadMcfDv8-00679-00167627-00167825 see if want to lend us a spade Watson 3EFadMcfDv8-00680-00167826-00167993 dear Chapel we're getting warm we're 3EFadMcfDv8-00681-00167994-00168328 getting decidedly warm 3EFadMcfDv8-00682-00168329-00168842 foreign 3EFadMcfDv8-00683-00168843-00169897 [Music] 3EFadMcfDv8-00684-00169898-00170231 yet the code is a logical one 3EFadMcfDv8-00685-00170232-00170428 two paces North 3EFadMcfDv8-00686-00170429-00170843 three West to South five wait 3EFadMcfDv8-00687-00170844-00170969 a minute 3EFadMcfDv8-00688-00170970-00171263 bases are inaccurate Watson they vary a 3EFadMcfDv8-00689-00171264-00171413 man which surely leave his records in 3EFadMcfDv8-00690-00171414-00171593 carefully measured feet here's a tape 3EFadMcfDv8-00691-00171594-00171743 measure why don't you try measuring it 3EFadMcfDv8-00692-00171744-00172151 out in feet thanks now two feet North 3EFadMcfDv8-00693-00172152-00172319 three West 3EFadMcfDv8-00694-00172320-00172493 to South 3EFadMcfDv8-00695-00172494-00172666 and five West 3EFadMcfDv8-00696-00172667-00172876 would be here 3EFadMcfDv8-00697-00172877-00173063 give me the Spade Watson I'll do the 3EFadMcfDv8-00698-00173064-00174319 digging this time oh thanks very much 3EFadMcfDv8-00699-00174320-00174702 [Music] 3EFadMcfDv8-00700-00174703-00174947 homes if you dig any deeper you'll come 3EFadMcfDv8-00701-00174948-00175193 out in Australia 3EFadMcfDv8-00702-00175194-00175421 and yet I know we're basically on the 3EFadMcfDv8-00703-00175422-00175913 right track 3EFadMcfDv8-00704-00175914-00176075 the side of this tape measure what's on 3EFadMcfDv8-00705-00176076-00176321 it it's marked in meters Roti was French 3EFadMcfDv8-00706-00176322-00176633 now we have the hunter Watson two meters 3EFadMcfDv8-00707-00176634-00176735 North 3EFadMcfDv8-00708-00176736-00176885 three West 3EFadMcfDv8-00709-00176886-00177263 two south and five West give me the 3EFadMcfDv8-00710-00177264-00177526 Spade again yeah 3EFadMcfDv8-00711-00177527-00177737 if I'm wrong this time I retire from my 3EFadMcfDv8-00712-00177738-00178199 profession 3EFadMcfDv8-00713-00178200-00178361 it's a metal box 3EFadMcfDv8-00714-00178362-00178625 Watson unless I'm very much mistaken 3EFadMcfDv8-00715-00178626-00179152 we've found the Shrewsbury emeralds 3EFadMcfDv8-00716-00179153-00179525 looks as a little 3EFadMcfDv8-00717-00179526-00179759 cut but its contents are undamaged look 3EFadMcfDv8-00718-00179760-00179969 at these emeralds Watson aren't they 3EFadMcfDv8-00719-00179970-00180143 Exquisite in this Gaslight they look 3EFadMcfDv8-00720-00180144-00180383 just like liquid Jade quite a poet 3EFadMcfDv8-00721-00180384-00180616 aren't you Dr Watson oh hello Mr Gold 3EFadMcfDv8-00722-00180617-00180875 you quite startle me we've we've found 3EFadMcfDv8-00723-00180876-00181061 the treasure I'm so glad gentlemen 3EFadMcfDv8-00724-00181062-00181354 you've done the hard work for us come 3EFadMcfDv8-00725-00181355-00181693 back here homes 3EFadMcfDv8-00726-00181694-00181954 Dr Watson but I won't miss you stand 3EFadMcfDv8-00727-00181955-00182087 where you are 3EFadMcfDv8-00728-00182088-00182326 in any case Mr Holmes can't get a wave 3EFadMcfDv8-00729-00182327-00182513 fortunately for us he's run into a cave 3EFadMcfDv8-00730-00182514-00182723 from which there is no exit Gertrude 3EFadMcfDv8-00731-00182724-00183125 Alfie here we are yes my dear clever of 3EFadMcfDv8-00732-00183126-00183299 them wasn't it I doubt whether we could 3EFadMcfDv8-00733-00183300-00183431 have solved the code without their 3EFadMcfDv8-00734-00183432-00183587 Health Congress I wish I could get my 3EFadMcfDv8-00735-00183588-00183833 hands on your Dr Watson surely are in no 3EFadMcfDv8-00736-00183834-00184019 position to threaten the three of us are 3EFadMcfDv8-00737-00184020-00184313 armed and your friend can't help you 3EFadMcfDv8-00738-00184314-00184595 Mr Sherlock Holmes come out of that cave 3EFadMcfDv8-00739-00184596-00184913 with your hands up we've won the final 3EFadMcfDv8-00740-00184914-00185116 round not when I have the emeralds you 3EFadMcfDv8-00741-00185117-00185399 haven't already have blasted it seems to 3EFadMcfDv8-00742-00185400-00185561 me Dr Watson Mr Holmes is being 3EFadMcfDv8-00743-00185562-00186061 unusually stupid today be careful homes 3EFadMcfDv8-00744-00186062-00186299 dear me I'm afraid your friend's been 3EFadMcfDv8-00745-00186300-00186509 injured let me go to him I'm a doctor 3EFadMcfDv8-00746-00186510-00186719 I'm afraid I can't trust you however 3EFadMcfDv8-00747-00186720-00186899 I'll tell Alfie to drag his body out 3EFadMcfDv8-00748-00186900-00187337 here Alfie never mind about Alfie I just 3EFadMcfDv8-00749-00187338-00187697 can't count in one before I shot Mr 3EFadMcfDv8-00750-00187698-00187919 it's stuttering Steve hacker but it 3EFadMcfDv8-00751-00187920-00188140 can't be Steve Hacker's dead that's what 3EFadMcfDv8-00752-00188141-00188459 you think but but he ain't dead I bribed 3EFadMcfDv8-00753-00188460-00188675 the prison doctor in his kite remember 3EFadMcfDv8-00754-00188676-00188993 I'm in the dark you can't see me but but 3EFadMcfDv8-00755-00188994-00189233 I can see you you're standing in the 3EFadMcfDv8-00756-00189234-00189538 light but you better do like I say 3EFadMcfDv8-00757-00189539-00189904 Dr Watson yes what is it I I remember 3EFadMcfDv8-00758-00189905-00190204 you you ain't a bad child of a tax 3EFadMcfDv8-00759-00190205-00190457 assistant I trust you more than these 3EFadMcfDv8-00760-00190458-00190709 rats if you don't want me to shoot you 3EFadMcfDv8-00761-00190710-00190937 better drop your revolvers at Dr Watson 3EFadMcfDv8-00762-00190938-00191333 speak I'll trust him go on drop them you 3EFadMcfDv8-00763-00191334-00191471 better do as he says I think he means 3EFadMcfDv8-00764-00191472-00191711 business all right hacker yeah 3EFadMcfDv8-00765-00191712-00192059 now yours did you Gertrude there 3EFadMcfDv8-00766-00192060-00192323 pick him up Dr Watson 3EFadMcfDv8-00767-00192324-00192478 I've got them 3EFadMcfDv8-00768-00192479-00192628 plenty of homes 3EFadMcfDv8-00769-00192629-00192940 then hand me one but Holmes were where's 3EFadMcfDv8-00770-00192941-00193109 Steve Hecker aside from the fact that 3EFadMcfDv8-00771-00193110-00193343 he's dead I have no idea well champ I 3EFadMcfDv8-00772-00193344-00193535 took the liberty of impersonating him or 3EFadMcfDv8-00773-00193536-00193733 rather his ghost temporally you shot 3EFadMcfDv8-00774-00193734-00193949 Alfie certainly he was about to shoot me 3EFadMcfDv8-00775-00193950-00194221 but he is not quite dead unfortunately 3EFadMcfDv8-00776-00194222-00194452 and now what's no chap I think it's 3EFadMcfDv8-00777-00194453-00194645 about time we turn this unsavory little 3EFadMcfDv8-00778-00194646-00195995 gathering over to the police 3EFadMcfDv8-00779-00195996-00196187 want something it's rather Pleasant to 3EFadMcfDv8-00780-00196188-00196361 be back in Baker Street 3EFadMcfDv8-00781-00196362-00196613 it's been a tiring day you know homes 3EFadMcfDv8-00782-00196614-00196840 the way you imitated stuttering Steve 3EFadMcfDv8-00783-00196841-00197107 hacker was amazing 3EFadMcfDv8-00784-00197108-00197363 you you had them completely fooled 3EFadMcfDv8-00785-00197364-00197561 because I saw the whole thing 3EFadMcfDv8-00786-00197562-00197795 immediately oh of course you're very 3EFadMcfDv8-00787-00197796-00197963 clever though you shot Alfie and then 3EFadMcfDv8-00788-00197964-00198235 faked your own wounded groans yes 3EFadMcfDv8-00789-00198236-00198611 it was remarkably effective and Alpha's 3EFadMcfDv8-00790-00198612-00198749 subsequent confession confirmed my 3EFadMcfDv8-00791-00198750-00199049 suspicions hacker ill and afraid of 3EFadMcfDv8-00792-00199050-00199271 dying talked with Alpha during his 3EFadMcfDv8-00793-00199272-00199540 recent stay in Dartmoor and told him to 3EFadMcfDv8-00794-00199541-00199661 find the booty and share it with 3EFadMcfDv8-00795-00199662-00199775 Hacker's wife 3EFadMcfDv8-00796-00199776-00199978 but Althea as soon as he was released 3EFadMcfDv8-00797-00199979-00200164 from prison and thinking hacker dead 3EFadMcfDv8-00798-00200165-00200326 decided to get it all for himself and 3EFadMcfDv8-00799-00200327-00200466 his accomplices 3EFadMcfDv8-00800-00200467-00200728 as pretty a tangle of criminality as I 3EFadMcfDv8-00801-00200729-00200909 ever ran into perhaps your return to 3EFadMcfDv8-00802-00200910-00201100 practice what feels dull as you think 3EFadMcfDv8-00803-00201101-00201328 come in 3EFadMcfDv8-00804-00201329-00201676 excuse me Mr Rose but about the dog 3EFadMcfDv8-00805-00201677-00201995 dog what dog the nice sweet fella the 3EFadMcfDv8-00806-00201996-00202187 lady brought this afternoon he's still 3EFadMcfDv8-00807-00202188-00202475 downstairs I gave him a bath and a nice 3EFadMcfDv8-00808-00202476-00202726 big beef bone now what do you want me to 3EFadMcfDv8-00809-00202727-00202961 do with him hmm 3EFadMcfDv8-00810-00202962-00203207 an intriguing problem 3EFadMcfDv8-00811-00203208-00203381 let me see now 3EFadMcfDv8-00812-00203382-00203663 he's been cooped up a long time oh here 3EFadMcfDv8-00813-00203664-00203854 it comes I think it'd be an excellent 3EFadMcfDv8-00814-00203855-00204047 idea if Dr Watson took him for a nice 3EFadMcfDv8-00815-00204048-00204376 walk nice walk with Jose I'm very tired 3EFadMcfDv8-00816-00204377-00204604 oh come on Watson remember he's quite a 3EFadMcfDv8-00817-00204605-00204953 remarkable animal he wrote a letter he 3EFadMcfDv8-00818-00204954-00205103 convinced you that he was royalty and 3EFadMcfDv8-00819-00205104-00205355 then undoubtedly saved your life I think 3EFadMcfDv8-00820-00205356-00205516 you owe him a little consideration don't 3EFadMcfDv8-00821-00205517-00205792 you well of course if you put it that 3EFadMcfDv8-00822-00205794-00206814 way 3EFadMcfDv8-00823-00206815-00207016 thank you 3EFadMcfDv8-00824-00207017-00207203 and that's how you acquired this little 3EFadMcfDv8-00825-00207204-00207455 dog collar right I have tried Mr Bill I 3EFadMcfDv8-00826-00207456-00207610 had that wretchedel animal in my hands 3EFadMcfDv8-00827-00207611-00207929 till it died of old age I got quite fond 3EFadMcfDv8-00828-00207930-00208264 of it as a matter of fact I see and what 3EFadMcfDv8-00829-00208265-00208408 story are you going to tell us next week 3EFadMcfDv8-00830-00208409-00208582 doctor well now next week I think I'll 3EFadMcfDv8-00831-00208583-00208823 tell you a story I call the adventure of 3EFadMcfDv8-00832-00208823-00209057 Black Angus I always think it was one of 3EFadMcfDv8-00833-00209058-00209279 the most gruesome and Macabre 3EFadMcfDv8-00834-00209280-00209525 experiences that Sherlock Holmes and I 3EFadMcfDv8-00835-00209526-00209771 ever encountered 3EFadMcfDv8-00836-00209771-00210783 foreign 3EFadMcfDv8-00837-00210784-00211253 [Music] 3EFadMcfDv8-00838-00211254-00211498 do you look gorgeous tonight and your 3EFadMcfDv8-00839-00211500-00211708 hair it's lonely it should be Joe 3EFadMcfDv8-00840-00211709-00211919 because I always wash it with criminal 3EFadMcfDv8-00841-00211919-00212158 shampoo I learned that beauty trick long 3EFadMcfDv8-00842-00212159-00212356 ago from those stunning polish models 3EFadMcfDv8-00843-00212357-00212663 yes criminal shampoo is famous it leaves 3EFadMcfDv8-00844-00212664-00212867 hair sparkling for days with natural 3EFadMcfDv8-00845-00212867-00213119 glossy highlight what's more criminal 3EFadMcfDv8-00846-00213119-00213401 shampoo is a hard water shampoo it whips 3EFadMcfDv8-00847-00213402-00213641 up just gobs of lather in every type of 3EFadMcfDv8-00848-00213642-00213929 water it's fine Rich foam penetrates 3EFadMcfDv8-00849-00213930-00214121 right to the scalp and removes all loose 3EFadMcfDv8-00850-00214121-00214294 dandruff as well as the dirt 3EFadMcfDv8-00851-00214296-00214517 white even has a beneficial oil base 3EFadMcfDv8-00852-00214517-00214781 which helps keep hair from becoming dry 3EFadMcfDv8-00853-00214782-00215015 we're all using criminal shampoo at our 3EFadMcfDv8-00854-00215016-00215303 house I'd suggest you take a tip from My 3EFadMcfDv8-00855-00215304-00217079 Wife and buy the large family size 3EFadMcfDv8-00856-00217080-00217277 tonight's new Sherlock Holmes Adventure 3EFadMcfDv8-00857-00217278-00217481 was suggested by an incident in the Sir 3EFadMcfDv8-00858-00217482-00217727 Arthur Conan Doyle story The Adventure 3EFadMcfDv8-00859-00217728-00218008 of the noble Bachelor Nigel Bruce 3EFadMcfDv8-00860-00218009-00218194 appeared by permission of California 3EFadMcfDv8-00861-00218196-00218417 pictures and Tom Conway through the 3EFadMcfDv8-00862-00218417-00218615 courtesy of Eagle lion pictures 3EFadMcfDv8-00863-00218616-00218879 this is Joseph Bell speaking for kremel 3EFadMcfDv8-00864-00218880-00219148 hair tonic and cremel shampoo and 3EFadMcfDv8-00865-00219150-00219310 inviting 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Seven's Jason grant our Joe Anthony was 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00003-00001238-00001310 more Jason 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00004-00001311-00001495 that's right Jacqueline the good news is 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00005-00001496-00001693 that no one was hurt after flames broke 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00006-00001694-00001918 out in a suburban home in a Gertz Ville 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00007-00001919-00002126 overnight a family with two young 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00008-00002127-00002345 children were able to escape their home 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00009-00002346-00002540 leaving fire crews to battle the blaze 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00010-00002541-00002813 but crews did much more than that doing 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00011-00002814-00002990 their best to rescue the family's 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00012-00002991-00003206 Christmas now it happened on Margaret 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00013-00003207-00003440 Road in a Gertz Ville someone inside the 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00014-00003440-00003650 home smelled smoke and evacuated the 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00015-00003651-00003869 family as firefighters arrived on scene 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00016-00003870-00004106 the fire started in the garage that then 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00017-00004107-00004318 spread to the house causing more than 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00018-00004319-00004586 $100,000 worth of damage and displacing 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00019-00004587-00004865 that family on Christmas Eve so after 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00020-00004866-00005020 putting out the fire volunteer 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00021-00005021-00005240 firefighters did their best help save 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00022-00005241-00005486 the holiday carrying presents and gifts 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00023-00005487-00005684 out of the home to ensure the family 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00024-00005685-00006026 still has some form of a Christmas it's 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00025-00006027-00006218 always unfortunate this happened holiday 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00026-00006219-00006431 season and we're taking measures to help 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00027-00006431-00006609 the family too 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00028-00006609-00006770 to make sure they have lodging and 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00029-00006772-00006939 sheltering for this type of situation 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00030-00006940-00007161 but we are working with the family to 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00031-00007162-00007373 make sure that their holiday items are 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00032-00007375-00007595 preserved and extensive salvage 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00033-00007597-00007784 operations especially due to this time 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00034-00007786-00008223 of year assisting that family which 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00035-00008224-00008427 includes two young children making sure 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00036-00008428-00008670 they have a place to stay this holiday 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00037-00008671-00008826 and we will have much more on this story 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00038-00008827-00009045 coming up tonight on Eyewitness News at 3GvAHGUGZ9E-00039-00009046-00009396 five and six Jacqueline 3H1BIIRCl1y-00000-00001491-00001745 so welcome to the eleventh lecture of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00001-00001746-00001925 cryogenic engineering under the NPTEL 3H1BIIRCl1y-00002-00001926-00002351 program just to take overview of the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00003-00002352-00002582 earlier lecture we talked about ideal 3H1BIIRCl1y-00004-00002583-00002789 thermodynamic cycle for gas liquefaction 3H1BIIRCl1y-00005-00002790-00003029 in the earlier lecture and you found 3H1BIIRCl1y-00006-00003030-00003263 that the implementation of ideal 3H1BIIRCl1y-00007-00003264-00003452 thermodynamic cycle for gas liquefaction 3H1BIIRCl1y-00008-00003453-00003731 is is impractical and hence modified 3H1BIIRCl1y-00009-00003732-00003986 cycles are proposed the impracticality 3H1BIIRCl1y-00010-00003986-00004241 came due to the fact that the pressures 3H1BIIRCl1y-00011-00004242-00004451 required to liquefy all the gas that is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00012-00004452-00004634 compressed are very very high and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00013-00004635-00004850 therefore these pressures cannot be 3H1BIIRCl1y-00014-00004851-00005054 obtained using conventional compressors 3H1BIIRCl1y-00015-00005055-00005309 which are available and therefore these 3H1BIIRCl1y-00016-00005310-00005491 cycles cannot be realized in practice 3H1BIIRCl1y-00017-00005492-00005852 however these cycles form a very good 3H1BIIRCl1y-00018-00005853-00006115 basis of comparison for other cycles 3H1BIIRCl1y-00019-00006116-00006380 which is what the next conclusion was an 3H1BIIRCl1y-00020-00006381-00006623 ideal cycle is used as a benchmark and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00021-00006623-00006926 in effect different ratios and functions 3H1BIIRCl1y-00022-00006927-00007081 are defined to compare the various 3H1BIIRCl1y-00023-00007082-00007348 liquefaction cycles so if I am having 3H1BIIRCl1y-00024-00007350-00007619 any other cycle for liquefaction the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00025-00007620-00007820 results obtained from this cycle or the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00026-00007820-00007991 liquefaction obtained from this cycle 3H1BIIRCl1y-00027-00007992-00008209 can be compared with the liquefaction 3H1BIIRCl1y-00028-00008210-00008408 that could be obtained from an ideal 3H1BIIRCl1y-00029-00008409-00008638 cycle it becomes a basis for comparison 3H1BIIRCl1y-00030-00008639-00008930 for various cycles and therefore their 3H1BIIRCl1y-00031-00008931-00009220 performance of various cycles can be 3H1BIIRCl1y-00032-00009221-00009383 obtained the performance parameters can 3H1BIIRCl1y-00033-00009384-00009646 be obtained when we compare those 3H1BIIRCl1y-00034-00009647-00009856 parameters with the ideal thermodynamic 3H1BIIRCl1y-00035-00009857-00010102 cycle then we talked about Linda hamsun 3H1BIIRCl1y-00036-00010103-00010363 cycle and it consists of a compressor 3H1BIIRCl1y-00037-00010364-00010526 heat exchanger and a joule-thomson 3H1BIIRCl1y-00038-00010527-00010834 expansion device an ideal cycle had only 3H1BIIRCl1y-00039-00010835-00011077 compressor and j.t expansion device 3H1BIIRCl1y-00040-00011078-00011384 while and heat exchanger is added to the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00041-00011385-00011674 ideal cycle and in this system only a 3H1BIIRCl1y-00042-00011675-00011876 part of the gas that is compressed gets 3H1BIIRCl1y-00043-00011877-00012127 liquefied as against the fact in the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00044-00012128-00012401 ideal cycle whatever amount of gas is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00045-00012402-00012659 compressed it gets liquefied in fact all 3H1BIIRCl1y-00046-00012660-00012922 the gas gets liquefied well in this case 3H1BIIRCl1y-00047-00012924-00013157 only a part of the gas this part of the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00048-00013158-00013322 gas could be only 5 percent or 10 3H1BIIRCl1y-00049-00013322-00013601 percent or 15 percent so only a part of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00050-00013602-00013826 the gas that is compressed gets 3H1BIIRCl1y-00051-00013827-00014018 liquefied it's a very important 3H1BIIRCl1y-00052-00014019-00014158 difference between the two cycles and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00053-00014159-00014384 that is why these cycles becomes a kind 3H1BIIRCl1y-00054-00014385-00014588 of practical cycle 3H1BIIRCl1y-00055-00014590-00014805 the heat exchange process occurring in 3H1BIIRCl1y-00056-00014806-00015069 heat exchanger and this process occurs 3H1BIIRCl1y-00057-00015069-00015266 at constant pressure and that's why I 3H1BIIRCl1y-00058-00015268-00015483 call it isobaric heat exchange process 3H1BIIRCl1y-00059-00015484-00015680 so the isobaric heat action process 3H1BIIRCl1y-00060-00015681-00015924 occurring in the heat exchanger you used 3H1BIIRCl1y-00061-00015925-00016119 to conserve the cold and yet the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00062-00016119-00016278 expansion device is used for producing 3H1BIIRCl1y-00063-00016279-00016524 lower temperature so the heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00064-00016525-00016713 which was a change from the earlier 3H1BIIRCl1y-00065-00016714-00016977 ideal cycle it basically conserved the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00066-00016978-00017186 coal that is produced at the end the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00067-00017187-00017336 cold gas which goes back to the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00068-00017337-00017589 compressor prequels the incoming hot gas 3H1BIIRCl1y-00069-00017590-00017733 and that's why we say that whatever 3H1BIIRCl1y-00070-00017734-00017933 coldest produce is conserved in this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00071-00017934-00018168 cycle and yet the expansion of all of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00072-00018169-00018281 course is used for reducing the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00073-00018282-00018471 temperature with the JTA expansion 3H1BIIRCl1y-00074-00018472-00018719 process the work required for a unit 3H1BIIRCl1y-00075-00018720-00018888 mass of gas compressed for Olinda 3H1BIIRCl1y-00076-00018889-00019044 Hampson cycle is given by the formula 3H1BIIRCl1y-00077-00019045-00019353 minus WC upon m dot m dot is mass flow 3H1BIIRCl1y-00078-00019354-00019430 rate of the gas which is being 3H1BIIRCl1y-00079-00019431-00019740 compressed is equal to t1 into s 1 minus 3H1BIIRCl1y-00080-00019741-00020217 s 2 minus in bracket h1 minus h2 the 1 3H1BIIRCl1y-00081-00020218-00020463 and 2 basically denote the the state of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00082-00020464-00020658 the points before compression and after 3H1BIIRCl1y-00083-00020659-00020847 compression and this process of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00084-00020848-00021059 compression is carried out isothermally 3H1BIIRCl1y-00085-00021060-00021347 at a temperature t1 so this is the work 3H1BIIRCl1y-00086-00021348-00021537 required for unit mass of gas which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00087-00021538-00021755 compressed which is m dot now you found 3H1BIIRCl1y-00088-00021756-00022002 that the yield while the yield is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00089-00022003-00022266 nothing but ratio of the gas which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00090-00022267-00022458 liquefied divided by a gas which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00091-00022459-00022762 compressed that is m dot F upon m dot 3H1BIIRCl1y-00092-00022763-00023127 the yield Y is maximum when the state - 3H1BIIRCl1y-00093-00023128-00023358 after the compression lies on the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00094-00023359-00023597 inversion curve at a temperature of the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00095-00023598-00023822 compression process this particular part 3H1BIIRCl1y-00096-00023823-00023997 has been discussed in detail in the last 3H1BIIRCl1y-00097-00023998-00024275 lecture and we found that the yield Y is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00098-00024276-00024549 maximum when the state two lies on the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00099-00024550-00024725 inversion curve at the temperature of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00100-00024726-00024980 the compression process for Olinda 3H1BIIRCl1y-00101-00024981-00025314 Hampson cycle falling hold true as the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00102-00025315-00025494 compression pressure increases the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00103-00025495-00025737 liquid yield y increases for a given 3H1BIIRCl1y-00104-00025738-00025944 compression temperature so we had seen 3H1BIIRCl1y-00105-00025945-00026193 that as the pressure increases as the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00106-00026194-00026427 pressure p2 the gas which is compressed 3H1BIIRCl1y-00107-00026427-00026627 from state one to state two if you 3H1BIIRCl1y-00108-00026628-00026840 compress instead of 100 bar to 200 bar 3H1BIIRCl1y-00109-00026841-00027000 that means the pressure ratio is very 3H1BIIRCl1y-00110-00027001-00027111 going to be very very high the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00111-00027112-00027227 compression work also is going to be 3H1BIIRCl1y-00112-00027228-00027408 very very high but when you compress at 3H1BIIRCl1y-00113-00027408-00027588 a very higher pressure the liquid yield 3H1BIIRCl1y-00114-00027589-00027792 Y increases for a gate compression 3H1BIIRCl1y-00115-00027793-00027908 temperature so compression temperature 3H1BIIRCl1y-00116-00027909-00027933 could 3H1BIIRCl1y-00117-00027933-00028101 kept constant at 300 Kelvin which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00118-00028102-00028308 room temperature and if we increase the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00119-00028308-00028514 pressure at the end of the compression Y 3H1BIIRCl1y-00120-00028516-00028793 increases similarly as a compression 3H1BIIRCl1y-00121-00028794-00028940 temperature decreases so instead of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00122-00028941-00029130 carrying the compression process at 300 3H1BIIRCl1y-00123-00029131-00029402 Kelvin if I carry out the process at 200 3H1BIIRCl1y-00124-00029404-00029618 Kelvin then the liquid yield Y increases 3H1BIIRCl1y-00125-00029619-00029832 for the given compression pressure and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00126-00029833-00030033 both these conclusions we had seen last 3H1BIIRCl1y-00127-00030033-00030336 time using some problems or tutorials in 3H1BIIRCl1y-00128-00030337-00030555 the last lecture so if you understand 3H1BIIRCl1y-00129-00030556-00030750 this now we'll go to the outline of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00130-00030751-00030977 today's lecture so today's lecture is a 3H1BIIRCl1y-00131-00030979-00031095 continuation of the earlier lecture 3H1BIIRCl1y-00132-00031095-00031230 which is gas liquefaction and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00133-00031231-00031370 refrigeration system 3H1BIIRCl1y-00134-00031372-00031652 and what we are going to learn today is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00135-00031654-00031877 the basics of heat exchangers as you 3H1BIIRCl1y-00136-00031879-00032114 know in Linda hampson cycle the heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-00137-00032116-00032364 exchanger is the only addition to the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00138-00032364-00032552 ideal thermodynamic cycle and therefore 3H1BIIRCl1y-00139-00032554-00032739 heat exchanger plays a very very crucial 3H1BIIRCl1y-00140-00032739-00032996 role in determine the output from this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00141-00032997-00033201 cycle so we will study what is the heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-00142-00033202-00033357 exchanger what are the basics related to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00143-00033358-00033498 that what are the performance parameter 3H1BIIRCl1y-00144-00033499-00033821 and then it proceeded to understand the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00145-00033822-00033939 effect of heat exchanger effectiveness 3H1BIIRCl1y-00146-00033940-00034254 on Linda hams on system so today we will 3H1BIIRCl1y-00147-00034255-00034467 continue the study of the earlier cycle 3H1BIIRCl1y-00148-00034468-00034707 the Linda Hamson cycle however what we 3H1BIIRCl1y-00149-00034708-00034905 will see and study here is the role of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00150-00034906-00035118 heat exchanger okay the heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00151-00035119-00035259 performance is very very important and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00152-00035260-00035535 will give some quantification as to what 3H1BIIRCl1y-00153-00035536-00035757 exactly happens with the deterioration 3H1BIIRCl1y-00154-00035758-00036081 in the heat exchanger effectiveness and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00155-00036082-00036221 finally we all understand what is the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00156-00036222-00036387 figure of Merit oh and this is a very 3H1BIIRCl1y-00157-00036388-00036546 important term which is obtained to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00158-00036547-00036765 compare various cycle what is f om 3H1BIIRCl1y-00159-00036766-00036977 figure of Merit and all these things 3H1BIIRCl1y-00160-00036978-00037112 will try to understand in today's 3H1BIIRCl1y-00161-00037113-00037314 lecture so let's come to the basics of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00162-00037315-00037449 heat exchanger so what is a heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-00163-00037450-00037668 exchanger a heat exchanger is a device 3H1BIIRCl1y-00164-00037669-00037827 in which the cooling effect from the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00165-00037828-00038015 cold fluid is transferred to prequel the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00166-00038016-00038240 hot fluid so basically the hot fluid 3H1BIIRCl1y-00167-00038241-00038408 while traveling to the heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00168-00038409-00038610 will become cold and the cold fluid 3H1BIIRCl1y-00169-00038611-00038727 while traveling through the heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-00170-00038728-00038976 exchanger will become hot because this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00171-00038977-00039221 cold is taken by the hot fluid and the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00172-00039222-00039489 hot fluid gets pretty cold now this heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-00173-00039490-00039675 exchanger could be a - fluid that means 3H1BIIRCl1y-00174-00039676-00039902 we can have one hot and one cold fluid 3H1BIIRCl1y-00175-00039903-00040080 or we can have three fluid type 3H1BIIRCl1y-00176-00040081-00040275 depending upon the number of inlets and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00177-00040276-00040398 outlets attached to the heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00178-00040399-00040602 normally the heat exchangers are having 3H1BIIRCl1y-00179-00040603-00040827 two fluids but there are various cases 3H1BIIRCl1y-00180-00040828-00040956 which we'll see in the next lectures 3H1BIIRCl1y-00181-00040957-00041169 also that a heat exchanger can have two 3H1BIIRCl1y-00182-00041170-00041283 inlets and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00183-00041284-00041475 one outgoing stream or thing like that 3H1BIIRCl1y-00184-00041476-00041673 so we can have or one inlet and two 3H1BIIRCl1y-00185-00041674-00041889 outgoing fluids any combination that is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00186-00041890-00042117 possible depending on the different 3H1BIIRCl1y-00187-00042118-00042324 working fluids that are passing through 3H1BIIRCl1y-00188-00042325-00042507 the heat exchanger and what is the end 3H1BIIRCl1y-00189-00042508-00042665 usage of this particular heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00190-00042666-00042927 is the process of heat exchanger occurs 3H1BIIRCl1y-00191-00042928-00043119 at a constant pressure and hence it is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00192-00043120-00043311 an isobaric process this is an 3H1BIIRCl1y-00193-00043312-00043494 assumption in fact there will be some 3H1BIIRCl1y-00194-00043495-00043635 pressure drop across the length of the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00195-00043636-00043860 heat exchanger but in an ideal heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-00196-00043861-00044040 exchange process we can assume that the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00197-00044041-00044240 pressure remains constant and therefore 3H1BIIRCl1y-00198-00044241-00044370 we can assume that the process is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00199-00044371-00044667 isobaric so this is a heat exchanger or 3H1BIIRCl1y-00200-00044668-00044862 this is schematic shown which we are 3H1BIIRCl1y-00201-00044863-00045006 going to use in this particular lecture 3H1BIIRCl1y-00202-00045007-00045234 and about this all the schematics that 3H1BIIRCl1y-00203-00045235-00045411 are going to be used in this gas 3H1BIIRCl1y-00204-00045412-00045576 liquefaction we already shown that this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00205-00045577-00045865 is a heat exchanger and here I got two 3H1BIIRCl1y-00206-00045866-00046050 schematics here this is a heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00207-00046051-00046227 schematic and here I am talking about 3H1BIIRCl1y-00208-00046228-00046455 the temperature variations across the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00209-00046456-00046659 length of the heat exchanger what you 3H1BIIRCl1y-00210-00046660-00046926 can see that the fluid a which is hot 3H1BIIRCl1y-00211-00046927-00047418 fluid in fluid a in hot and fluid a out 3H1BIIRCl1y-00212-00047419-00047502 cold 3H1BIIRCl1y-00213-00047503-00047643 so while traveling through the heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-00214-00047644-00047940 exchanger this hot fluid becomes cold 3H1BIIRCl1y-00215-00047941-00048177 and how does it become cold because 3H1BIIRCl1y-00216-00048178-00048351 there is a other fluid coming from the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00217-00048352-00048534 opposite direction meaning which this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00218-00048535-00048657 could be a counter flow heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00219-00048658-00048827 okay in the counter flow heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00220-00048828-00049052 you will have fluids coming in opposite 3H1BIIRCl1y-00221-00049053-00049248 direction so you got a fluid a and fluid 3H1BIIRCl1y-00222-00049249-00049515 B the fluid B is cold fluid entering 3H1BIIRCl1y-00223-00049516-00049731 from this side well the hot fluid fluid 3H1BIIRCl1y-00224-00049732-00049998 a enters from the other side and during 3H1BIIRCl1y-00225-00049999-00050136 the travel across the length of the heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-00226-00050137-00050358 exchanger the temperature of the hot 3H1BIIRCl1y-00227-00050359-00050601 fluid a comes down so we can see that 3H1BIIRCl1y-00228-00050602-00050802 the temperature has come from a in hot 3H1BIIRCl1y-00229-00050803-00051120 to a out cold while the temperature of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00230-00051121-00051332 the fluid B increases when it travels 3H1BIIRCl1y-00231-00051333-00051474 across that length to the heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00232-00051475-00051767 so this because it takes heat from the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00233-00051769-00052004 hot fluid and the temperature of the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00234-00052005-00052200 cold fluid now increases in this way 3H1BIIRCl1y-00235-00052201-00052515 though B in cold and it goes to B out 3H1BIIRCl1y-00236-00052516-00052797 hot so you can see that the hot fluid 3H1BIIRCl1y-00237-00052798-00053030 becomes cold while the cold fluid 3H1BIIRCl1y-00238-00053032-00053279 becomes hot during the travel all right 3H1BIIRCl1y-00239-00053280-00053574 lot depends on now how much heat getting 3H1BIIRCl1y-00240-00053575-00053816 transferred and what is the a out 3H1BIIRCl1y-00241-00053817-00053991 temperature what is the B out 3H1BIIRCl1y-00242-00053991-00054191 temperature okay let's see those things 3H1BIIRCl1y-00243-00054192-00054392 now so this is basically the hot side of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00244-00054394-00054554 the heat exchanger and this we can call 3H1BIIRCl1y-00245-00054555-00054597 as a 3H1BIIRCl1y-00246-00054598-00054789 cold side of the heat exchanger now in 3H1BIIRCl1y-00247-00054790-00054969 order to specify the performance of the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00248-00054970-00055197 heat exchanger in terms of actual heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-00249-00055198-00055441 exchange occurring a term epsilon is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00250-00055442-00055710 defined which is called as heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-00251-00055711-00055932 exchanger effectiveness now in ideal 3H1BIIRCl1y-00252-00055933-00056175 case whatever heat is given by the hot 3H1BIIRCl1y-00253-00056176-00056400 fluid should be taken by the cold fluid 3H1BIIRCl1y-00254-00056401-00056682 but no it doesn't happen like that so 3H1BIIRCl1y-00255-00056683-00056877 whatever heat is given by the hot fluid 3H1BIIRCl1y-00256-00056878-00057060 only a part of that will be taken by a 3H1BIIRCl1y-00257-00057061-00057332 cold fluid and therefore the actual 3H1BIIRCl1y-00258-00057333-00057552 effectiveness of the heat exchanger is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00259-00057553-00057744 going to be different than what it is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00260-00057745-00058026 ideally in order to understand what are 3H1BIIRCl1y-00261-00058027-00058284 the losses in the system why the heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-00262-00058285-00058440 exchanger design performs two hundred 3H1BIIRCl1y-00263-00058441-00058683 percent capacity the term comes into 3H1BIIRCl1y-00264-00058684-00058841 picture which is called as effectiveness 3H1BIIRCl1y-00265-00058842-00059010 of heat exchanger a very commonly known 3H1BIIRCl1y-00266-00059011-00059286 term and it defined as a ratio of actual 3H1BIIRCl1y-00267-00059287-00059514 heat transfer that is occurring in the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00268-00059515-00059703 heat exchanger to the maximum possible 3H1BIIRCl1y-00269-00059704-00059958 heat transfer that can occur theoretical 3H1BIIRCl1y-00270-00059959-00060204 so actual heat exchange upon maximum 3H1BIIRCl1y-00271-00060204-00060438 possible heat exchanges mathematically 3H1BIIRCl1y-00272-00060439-00060657 one can write epsilon or heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00273-00060658-00060924 effectiveness is equal to Q actual the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00274-00060925-00061095 actual heat transfer divided by Q max 3H1BIIRCl1y-00275-00061096-00061296 the maximum possible in heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00276-00061297-00061536 naturally the maximum value of Q actual 3H1BIIRCl1y-00277-00061537-00061821 could be Q max value and therefore the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00278-00061822-00062013 maximum value of epsilon also can be one 3H1BIIRCl1y-00279-00062014-00062198 the epsilon parameter is definitely 3H1BIIRCl1y-00280-00062199-00062424 dimensionless and therefore it lies 3H1BIIRCl1y-00281-00062425-00062649 between zero and one here is a parameter 3H1BIIRCl1y-00282-00062650-00062844 which is Q where the heat is transferred 3H1BIIRCl1y-00283-00062845-00063075 from the hot fluid to the cold field the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00284-00063076-00063282 actual heat exchange now in mathematical 3H1BIIRCl1y-00285-00063283-00063537 term calculation will be done by how 3H1BIIRCl1y-00286-00063538-00063795 much heat is given by hot fluid and how 3H1BIIRCl1y-00287-00063796-00064026 much heat is taken by the cold fluid so 3H1BIIRCl1y-00288-00064027-00064200 amount of heat that is given by hot 3H1BIIRCl1y-00289-00064201-00064644 fluid is M into CP into delta T of that 3H1BIIRCl1y-00290-00064645-00064899 particular field so if I talk about the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00291-00064900-00065196 B fluid we talk about m dot B which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00292-00065197-00065439 mass flow rate of the B fluid into the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00293-00065440-00065640 specific capacity at constant pressure 3H1BIIRCl1y-00294-00065641-00065904 of the B fluid into the temperature 3H1BIIRCl1y-00295-00065905-00066180 difference of the B fluid which is TB in 3H1BIIRCl1y-00296-00066181-00066450 minus TB out similarly we assume that 3H1BIIRCl1y-00297-00066451-00066708 the heat which is given by the hot fluid 3H1BIIRCl1y-00298-00066709-00067062 is m dot a into CP a into delta T of the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00299-00067063-00067452 Hayfield so m dot a into CP a into ta in 3H1BIIRCl1y-00300-00067453-00067830 minus ta out so this is the Q actual so 3H1BIIRCl1y-00301-00067831-00067963 this is the amount of heat which is deck 3H1BIIRCl1y-00302-00067964-00068176 by the be fluid and this is the amount 3H1BIIRCl1y-00303-00068177-00068390 of heat which is given by the a fluid 3H1BIIRCl1y-00304-00068391-00068575 now the maximum possible heat efficient 3H1BIIRCl1y-00305-00068576-00068893 is the B fluid can reach maximum 3H1BIIRCl1y-00306-00068894-00069296 temperature equal to a in hot alright if 3H1BIIRCl1y-00307-00069297-00069523 the heat exchange is 100% if there are 3H1BIIRCl1y-00308-00069524-00069809 no problems then this be fluid in 3H1BIIRCl1y-00309-00069810-00070103 principle could have reached up to a hot 3H1BIIRCl1y-00310-00070104-00070397 or the a stream can reach the lowest 3H1BIIRCl1y-00311-00070398-00070579 temperature of being cold 3H1BIIRCl1y-00312-00070580-00070784 all right so the maximum heat exchange 3H1BIIRCl1y-00313-00070785-00070954 is going to occur between these two 3H1BIIRCl1y-00314-00070955-00071224 temperatures a in hot - bian cold and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00315-00071225-00071524 therefore Q Max is equal to m dot CP 3H1BIIRCl1y-00316-00071525-00071767 minimum and this maximum change of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00317-00071768-00071974 temperature will happen for the fluid 3H1BIIRCl1y-00318-00071975-00072248 which has got minimum heat capacity the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00319-00072249-00072446 heat capacity is equal to m dot into CP 3H1BIIRCl1y-00320-00072447-00072685 minimum of the two fluids multiplied by 3H1BIIRCl1y-00321-00072686-00072925 maximum temperature difference that is T 3H1BIIRCl1y-00322-00072926-00073288 V in minus ta in alright so this is a 3H1BIIRCl1y-00323-00073289-00073411 very important thing that this is a 3H1BIIRCl1y-00324-00073412-00073660 maximum temperature drop for any stream 3H1BIIRCl1y-00325-00073661-00073963 that is possible multiplied by m dot CP 3H1BIIRCl1y-00326-00073964-00074200 or the heat capacity of the fluid which 3H1BIIRCl1y-00327-00074201-00074401 has got minimum heat capacity m dot c 3H1BIIRCl1y-00328-00074402-00074603 minimum because the one which has got a 3H1BIIRCl1y-00329-00074604-00074830 minimum m dot CP will experience maximum 3H1BIIRCl1y-00330-00074831-00075148 delta T so effectiveness is epsilon is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00331-00075149-00075416 equal to Q actual upon Q max so Q 3H1BIIRCl1y-00332-00075417-00075601 actually is given by this formula and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00333-00075602-00075757 the Q max can be calculated by this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00334-00075758-00076024 formula and this will give what is the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00335-00076025-00076186 epsilon or what is the effectiveness of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00336-00076187-00076456 the heat exchanger is now if I want to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00337-00076457-00076622 understand because of this in 3H1BIIRCl1y-00338-00076623-00076816 effectiveness or effectiveness being a 3H1BIIRCl1y-00339-00076817-00077044 finite value or not hundred percent how 3H1BIIRCl1y-00340-00077045-00077273 exactly it looks on a TS diagram for a 3H1BIIRCl1y-00341-00077274-00077479 Linda Hampson system so you know that 3H1BIIRCl1y-00342-00077480-00077654 the isothermal compression process of a 3H1BIIRCl1y-00343-00077655-00077897 Linda Thompson system is one to two is a 3H1BIIRCl1y-00344-00077898-00078091 compression process at any temperature 3H1BIIRCl1y-00345-00078092-00078376 which is constant similarly the ice 3H1BIIRCl1y-00346-00078377-00078686 enthalpy process occurs from 3 to 4 like 3H1BIIRCl1y-00347-00078687-00079017 this and this is a JT expansion process 3H1BIIRCl1y-00348-00079018-00079466 so the gas gets expanded by Joule comes 3H1BIIRCl1y-00349-00079467-00079744 and effect from 3 to 4 where this length 3H1BIIRCl1y-00350-00079745-00080056 for 2g represents the amount of liquid 3H1BIIRCl1y-00351-00080057-00080246 that is generated because of this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00352-00080247-00080680 expansion while the length F - 4 or 4 - 3H1BIIRCl1y-00353-00080681-00080926 F denotes the amount of gas which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00354-00080927-00081260 going back so if this length is more you 3H1BIIRCl1y-00355-00081261-00081347 will get more 3H1BIIRCl1y-00356-00081348-00081647 we'll if this length is small less gas 3H1BIIRCl1y-00357-00081648-00081980 goes back so the gas and the liquid sets 3H1BIIRCl1y-00358-00081981-00082262 are given by G and if the gas goes back 3H1BIIRCl1y-00359-00082263-00082481 from this and the liquid is collected at 3H1BIIRCl1y-00360-00082482-00082682 Point F now if the heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00361-00082683-00082928 effectiveness or epsilon is assumed to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00362-00082929-00083174 be 100% the isobaric heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00363-00083175-00083402 would be from two to three process in 3H1BIIRCl1y-00364-00083403-00083531 the hot fluid is getting pretty cool 3H1BIIRCl1y-00365-00083532-00083726 from two to three and after that it is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00366-00083727-00083960 getting subjected to jet expansion 3H1BIIRCl1y-00367-00083961-00084185 similarly the low-pressure sides or the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00368-00084186-00084563 cold fluid experiences g21 process the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00369-00084564-00084752 temperature will increase from point G 3H1BIIRCl1y-00370-00084753-00084971 to point one because of which the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00371-00084972-00085142 temperatures of the hot fluid will 3H1BIIRCl1y-00372-00085143-00085385 decrease from two to three and this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00373-00085386-00085739 cycle exists when the epsilon is 100% 3H1BIIRCl1y-00374-00085740-00085934 now in actual case the heat exchange is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00375-00085935-00086177 not a perfect process and hence the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00376-00086178-00086458 processes are from two to three - 3H1BIIRCl1y-00377-00086459-00086780 instead of having heat exchanger process 3H1BIIRCl1y-00378-00086781-00087029 from two to three we will have it from 3H1BIIRCl1y-00379-00087030-00087263 two to three - it will not come up to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00380-00087264-00087605 3.4 a hot fluid similarly for the cold 3H1BIIRCl1y-00381-00087606-00087848 fluid or the low pressure fluid instead 3H1BIIRCl1y-00382-00087849-00088073 of reaching from temperature at point G 3H1BIIRCl1y-00383-00088074-00088523 up to one it will go up to only one - so 3H1BIIRCl1y-00384-00088524-00088703 it will not go up to one but it will go 3H1BIIRCl1y-00385-00088704-00089021 up to one - this is what is happening 3H1BIIRCl1y-00386-00089022-00089168 because of the heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00387-00089169-00089480 effectiveness dump now the gas is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00388-00089481-00089654 leaving the heat exchanger on the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00389-00089655-00089888 low-pressure side at one batch and it 3H1BIIRCl1y-00390-00089889-00090140 enters the compressor at temperature one 3H1BIIRCl1y-00391-00090141-00090473 - so naturally the compressor have to do 3H1BIIRCl1y-00392-00090474-00090776 a process of compression from one - two 3H1BIIRCl1y-00393-00090777-00091025 - so the compression occurs from one - 3H1BIIRCl1y-00394-00091026-00091250 two - a compressor has to do additional 3H1BIIRCl1y-00395-00091251-00091478 work for bringing its temperature - one 3H1BIIRCl1y-00396-00091479-00091751 - to one first and then isothermally 3H1BIIRCl1y-00397-00091752-00092090 compress the gas from one to two so in 3H1BIIRCl1y-00398-00092091-00092321 essence what you can understand is that 3H1BIIRCl1y-00399-00092322-00092639 the compressor has to do more work equal 3H1BIIRCl1y-00400-00092640-00092924 to the length from one to one - all 3H1BIIRCl1y-00401-00092925-00093170 right so in such a case the gas is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00402-00093171-00093320 always compressed from the state to one 3H1BIIRCl1y-00403-00093321-00093767 - to state 2 and similarly the GT 3H1BIIRCl1y-00404-00093768-00093953 expansion instead of happening from 3H1BIIRCl1y-00405-00093954-00094181 three to four closest it happens from 3H1BIIRCl1y-00406-00094182-00094517 three life to four - and as I said that 3H1BIIRCl1y-00407-00094518-00094719 this length from Ford F to G 3H1BIIRCl1y-00408-00094720-00094950 denotes the amount of liquid or amount 3H1BIIRCl1y-00409-00094951-00095110 of liquefaction that is occurring in 3H1BIIRCl1y-00410-00095111-00095301 this cycle we can see from here that 3H1BIIRCl1y-00411-00095302-00095704 this link got reduced from 4 to g2 for 3H1BIIRCl1y-00412-00095705-00095898 Delta G it means that the liquefaction 3H1BIIRCl1y-00413-00095899-00096057 has reduced because of the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00414-00096058-00096267 ineffectiveness of the heat exchanger so 3H1BIIRCl1y-00415-00096268-00096504 the JT expansion is occurring from 3-2 3H1BIIRCl1y-00416-00096505-00096768 furnace as shown in the figure it is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00417-00096769-00096991 clear that the actual heat exchange is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00418-00096992-00097344 from G to 1 - all right whereas the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00419-00097345-00097609 maximum possible heat exchange is from G 3H1BIIRCl1y-00420-00097610-00097828 to 1 in principle one should have come 3H1BIIRCl1y-00421-00097829-00098091 from G to 1 because the temperature of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00422-00098092-00098361 the point 2 could have attained on this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00423-00098362-00098566 pressure line but no the fluid couldn't 3H1BIIRCl1y-00424-00098567-00098787 reach up to 1 it has reached up to 1 - 3H1BIIRCl1y-00425-00098788-00098971 on the other pressure line on the high 3H1BIIRCl1y-00426-00098972-00099160 pressure line the actual heat exchange 3H1BIIRCl1y-00427-00099161-00099441 process is from 2 to 3 - whereas the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00428-00099442-00099604 maximum possible heat exchange should 3H1BIIRCl1y-00429-00099605-00099871 have been from 2 to 3 so maximum 3H1BIIRCl1y-00430-00099872-00100060 possible heat exchange should have been 3H1BIIRCl1y-00431-00100061-00100368 from 2 to 3 while it has reached up to 3 3H1BIIRCl1y-00432-00100369-00100666 - in an ideal system change in enthalpy 3H1BIIRCl1y-00433-00100667-00100959 on these two isobaric lines is equal 3H1BIIRCl1y-00434-00100960-00101310 therefore the effectiveness is given by 3H1BIIRCl1y-00435-00101311-00101653 epsilon is equal to actual heat transfer 3H1BIIRCl1y-00436-00101654-00102040 that is H 1 dash minus HG the enthalpy 3H1BIIRCl1y-00437-00102041-00102198 at least 2 point which is actual heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-00438-00102199-00102441 transfer divided by maximum possible 3H1BIIRCl1y-00439-00102442-00102765 heat transfer which is H 1 minus H G so 3H1BIIRCl1y-00440-00102766-00102946 maximum enthalpy difference that could 3H1BIIRCl1y-00441-00102947-00103092 have obtained if the heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00442-00103093-00103431 effectiveness is 100% is H 1 minus H G 3H1BIIRCl1y-00443-00103432-00103680 however the actual enthalpy difference 3H1BIIRCl1y-00444-00103681-00103938 that occurred is basically H of n - 3H1BIIRCl1y-00445-00103939-00104268 minus mg so effectiveness could be 3H1BIIRCl1y-00446-00104269-00104532 written as H 1 dash minus HG upon H 1 3H1BIIRCl1y-00447-00104533-00104800 minus H this is on the low pressure side 3H1BIIRCl1y-00448-00104801-00105025 if I am to give the same definition on 3H1BIIRCl1y-00449-00105026-00105408 this side then the epsilon in this case 3H1BIIRCl1y-00450-00105409-00105852 is equal to H 3 dash minus H 2 actual 3H1BIIRCl1y-00451-00105853-00106152 enthalpy difference divided by H 3 minus 3H1BIIRCl1y-00452-00106153-00106377 H 2 which is a maximum possible heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-00453-00106378-00106626 transfer that is possible for the high 3H1BIIRCl1y-00454-00106627-00106849 pressure line so both these terms will 3H1BIIRCl1y-00455-00106850-00107028 indicate the heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00456-00107029-00107395 effectiveness for a given heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00457-00107396-00107661 now if I want to understand all these 3H1BIIRCl1y-00458-00107662-00107979 points here on this cycle the gas enters 3H1BIIRCl1y-00459-00107980-00108172 the heat exchanger at point two which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00460-00108173-00108483 this and instead of coming at three it 3H1BIIRCl1y-00461-00108484-00108718 comes at three - and instead of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00462-00108719-00108975 expanding from three to four it expands 3H1BIIRCl1y-00463-00108976-00109326 from 3 - 2 4 - across the JT expansion 3H1BIIRCl1y-00464-00109327-00109479 box this is a very important to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00465-00109480-00109756 understand the gas does enter the heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-00466-00109757-00109983 exchanger at Point G but instead of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00467-00109984-00110223 coming at point one it is coming out at 3H1BIIRCl1y-00468-00110224-00110415 one - all right 3H1BIIRCl1y-00469-00110416-00110649 so this is what is shown over here now 3H1BIIRCl1y-00470-00110650-00110940 if I were to do the heat balance in this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00471-00110941-00111150 cycle as we have done earlier I will 3H1BIIRCl1y-00472-00111151-00111373 consider this control volume so consider 3H1BIIRCl1y-00473-00111374-00111540 a control volume for this system as 3H1BIIRCl1y-00474-00111541-00111735 shown in the figure the quantity is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00475-00111736-00111900 entering and leaving this control volume 3H1BIIRCl1y-00476-00111901-00112128 are as given below so what is entering 3H1BIIRCl1y-00477-00112129-00112323 this control volume is the mass flow 3H1BIIRCl1y-00478-00112324-00112669 rate m dot at 0.2 and what is leaving 3H1BIIRCl1y-00479-00112670-00113008 the system are m dot minus m dot F at 1 3H1BIIRCl1y-00480-00113008-00113308 - and at the same time what is leaving 3H1BIIRCl1y-00481-00113308-00113604 is m dot F that is liquid here which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00482-00113605-00113944 m dot F at Point F and if I have the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00483-00113945-00114279 first law of energy balance across this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00484-00114280-00114532 control volume I can write that whatever 3H1BIIRCl1y-00485-00114533-00114762 enters is equal to whatever leaving the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00486-00114763-00114900 system for whatever live in the control 3H1BIIRCl1y-00487-00114901-00115123 volume so whatever is entering is m dot 3H1BIIRCl1y-00488-00115124-00115362 H - and whatever is leaving is m dot 3H1BIIRCl1y-00489-00115363-00115749 minus m dot F H one dash plus m dot F HF 3H1BIIRCl1y-00490-00115750-00115948 this is what you see from this in out 3H1BIIRCl1y-00491-00115949-00116262 table if I rearrange this I can now 3H1BIIRCl1y-00492-00116263-00116533 develop a correlation for Y which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00493-00116533-00116787 nothing but m dot F upon m dot which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00494-00116788-00117138 equal to H 1 dash minus H 2 upon H 1 3H1BIIRCl1y-00495-00117139-00117408 dash minus HF so you can see now in 3H1BIIRCl1y-00496-00117409-00117582 earlier case it was H 1 minus H 2 3H1BIIRCl1y-00497-00117583-00117828 divided by H 1 minus HF when the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00498-00117829-00118116 effectiveness is 100% but because the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00499-00118117-00118365 effectiveness is not 100% we have got H 3H1BIIRCl1y-00500-00118366-00118708 1 replaced by H 1 - and before Y is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00501-00118708-00118977 defined like this now as seen earlier 3H1BIIRCl1y-00502-00118978-00119221 the effectiveness is if salon is equal 3H1BIIRCl1y-00503-00119222-00119506 to H 1 dash minus HG upon H 1 minus H 3H1BIIRCl1y-00504-00119507-00119727 this is what we have calculated earlier 3H1BIIRCl1y-00505-00119728-00119931 we have developed a correlation for this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00506-00119932-00120343 if I rearrange this I will get H 1 - if 3H1BIIRCl1y-00507-00120344-00120525 I want to have an expression in terms of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00508-00120526-00120775 H 1 - so I can write H 1 dash 3H1BIIRCl1y-00509-00120776-00121102 to epsilon into H one minus H G Plus H G 3H1BIIRCl1y-00510-00121103-00121342 on this side and what I am going to do 3H1BIIRCl1y-00511-00121343-00121648 now is replace this H one dash here by 3H1BIIRCl1y-00512-00121649-00121852 this particular value and we are in the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00513-00121853-00122095 equation for y yeah this is what my 3H1BIIRCl1y-00514-00122096-00122283 expression for y is and this is what my 3H1BIIRCl1y-00515-00122284-00122545 expression for H one dash please so if I 3H1BIIRCl1y-00516-00122546-00122791 replace H one dash over here you can get 3H1BIIRCl1y-00517-00122792-00122982 an expression like this so Y is equal to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00518-00122983-00123360 H one minus H 2 minus 1 minus epsilon H 3H1BIIRCl1y-00519-00123361-00123673 1 minus H G divided by h t1 minus HF 3H1BIIRCl1y-00520-00123674-00124086 minus 1 minus epsilon H 1 minus H G so 3H1BIIRCl1y-00521-00124088-00124264 what you can see from here is the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00522-00124265-00124461 related expression for Y which is H 1 3H1BIIRCl1y-00523-00124463-00124669 minus H 2 upon H 1 minus H F as 3H1BIIRCl1y-00524-00124670-00124900 numerators and denominators both the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00525-00124901-00125133 numerators and denominators are getting 3H1BIIRCl1y-00526-00125134-00125380 lessened by the value equivalent to this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00527-00125381-00125695 so naturally as a result of which Y as 3H1BIIRCl1y-00528-00125696-00125848 compared to what it was is going to be 3H1BIIRCl1y-00529-00125849-00126111 lace in this case algebraically so 3H1BIIRCl1y-00530-00126113-00126427 expression for a Y is this and what you 3H1BIIRCl1y-00531-00126428-00126631 can see is now the second term being 3H1BIIRCl1y-00532-00126632-00126844 negative it should be minimum to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00533-00126845-00127063 maximize the Y if I want to have maximum 3H1BIIRCl1y-00534-00127064-00127351 Y this negative term should be as 3H1BIIRCl1y-00535-00127352-00127603 minimum as possible and what you can see 3H1BIIRCl1y-00536-00127604-00127833 now from this all the parameters are 3H1BIIRCl1y-00537-00127834-00128061 constant once my one and two parameters 3H1BIIRCl1y-00538-00128063-00128290 are fixed state one and state two 3H1BIIRCl1y-00539-00128291-00128563 pressures are fixed the only variables 3H1BIIRCl1y-00540-00128564-00128800 in the whole expression is only epsilon 3H1BIIRCl1y-00541-00128801-00128998 which is effectiveness of heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00542-00128999-00129210 so all other parameters being constant 3H1BIIRCl1y-00543-00129211-00129403 for a given cycle the effectiveness 3H1BIIRCl1y-00544-00129404-00129682 epsilon should be very close to one so 3H1BIIRCl1y-00545-00129683-00129847 everything depends on what is the value 3H1BIIRCl1y-00546-00129848-00130035 of epsilon if the value of epsilon is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00547-00130036-00130216 equal to 1 you get a 1 minus 1 is equal 3H1BIIRCl1y-00548-00130217-00130378 to 0 and the whole expression reduces 3H1BIIRCl1y-00549-00130379-00130633 down to what it was earlier and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00550-00130633-00130819 therefore one has to ensure that this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00551-00130820-00131010 epsilon value should be as close to 1 as 3H1BIIRCl1y-00552-00131011-00131257 possible we'll have several tutorials to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00553-00131258-00131467 understand the effect of heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00554-00131468-00131860 effectiveness on the liquid yield so 3H1BIIRCl1y-00555-00131861-00132043 based on whatever we have learnt till 3H1BIIRCl1y-00556-00132044-00132286 now this tutorials will help you 3H1BIIRCl1y-00557-00132287-00132508 understand all those theoretical aspects 3H1BIIRCl1y-00558-00132509-00132709 which I just talked about and therefore 3H1BIIRCl1y-00559-00132710-00133000 I have planned for almost 4 tutorials so 3H1BIIRCl1y-00560-00133001-00133213 kindly go through those tutorials in 3H1BIIRCl1y-00561-00133214-00133411 detail to understand every part of it 3H1BIIRCl1y-00562-00133412-00133615 and what is most important is to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00563-00133616-00133870 interpret the results it is just not 3H1BIIRCl1y-00564-00133871-00134088 mathematical but the understand 3H1BIIRCl1y-00565-00134089-00134229 should not be only mathematical thomas 3H1BIIRCl1y-00566-00134230-00134436 wylde what is important is to understand 3H1BIIRCl1y-00567-00134437-00134697 the output of these tutorials the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00568-00134698-00134832 results of these tutorials or the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00569-00134833-00135012 conclusions that are drawn from these 3H1BIIRCl1y-00570-00135013-00135180 tutorials that is the most important 3H1BIIRCl1y-00571-00135181-00135453 thing of these tutorials then only you 3H1BIIRCl1y-00572-00135454-00135666 can sort of give some quantitative 3H1BIIRCl1y-00573-00135667-00135888 understanding you can have some number 3H1BIIRCl1y-00574-00135889-00136103 fill for all these cycles and their 3H1BIIRCl1y-00575-00136104-00136428 results so this is the first tutorial 3H1BIIRCl1y-00576-00136429-00136677 and again read the tutorial problem 3H1BIIRCl1y-00577-00136678-00136962 definition properly determine the liquid 3H1BIIRCl1y-00578-00136963-00137259 yield for Olinda Hampson cycle with air 3H1BIIRCl1y-00579-00137260-00137433 as a working fluid the moment I say air 3H1BIIRCl1y-00580-00137434-00137532 as working fluid 3H1BIIRCl1y-00581-00137533-00137673 you should have temperature entropy 3H1BIIRCl1y-00582-00137674-00137886 diagram or a TS diagram of a are 3H1BIIRCl1y-00583-00137887-00138069 available with you when the system is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00584-00138070-00138303 operated between one point zero one 3H1BIIRCl1y-00585-00138304-00138549 three bar or one atmosphere and to zero 3H1BIIRCl1y-00586-00138550-00138849 two point six bar or 200 atmosphere at 3H1BIIRCl1y-00587-00138850-00138984 three hundred kilometer this is a 3H1BIIRCl1y-00588-00138985-00139134 compression process state one and state 3H1BIIRCl1y-00589-00139135-00139437 two approximately 1 bar and 200 bar and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00590-00139438-00139635 the compression temperature is 300 3H1BIIRCl1y-00591-00139636-00139803 Kelvin the effectiveness of heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-00592-00139804-00140097 exchanger is 100 percent 95 percent 90 3H1BIIRCl1y-00593-00140098-00140307 percent 95 percent comment on these 3H1BIIRCl1y-00594-00140308-00140550 words so what basically I want you to do 3H1BIIRCl1y-00595-00140551-00140910 is comment on the liquefaction yield you 3H1BIIRCl1y-00596-00140911-00141126 get when the heat exchanger effect is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00597-00141127-00141477 100% then 95 percent then 90 percent and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00598-00141478-00141681 85 percent and then comment on the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00599-00141682-00141807 result so there are actually four 3H1BIIRCl1y-00600-00141808-00142206 problems in this solve these problems to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00601-00142207-00142512 get liquid yield when this is an ideal 3H1BIIRCl1y-00602-00142513-00142707 Linda Hampton cycle then we have got 3H1BIIRCl1y-00603-00142708-00142890 effectiveness of 95 percent 90 percent 3H1BIIRCl1y-00604-00142891-00143223 and 85 percent of the heat exchanger so 3H1BIIRCl1y-00605-00143224-00143457 the first thing is to get a TS diagram 3H1BIIRCl1y-00606-00143458-00143697 so the TS diagram of Linda Hamsun system 3H1BIIRCl1y-00607-00143698-00143964 if assumed the heat exchanger to be a 3H1BIIRCl1y-00608-00143965-00144219 hundred percent effective then it is as 3H1BIIRCl1y-00609-00144220-00144491 shown here so this is as you now know 3H1BIIRCl1y-00610-00144492-00144792 one two to the compression process two 3H1BIIRCl1y-00611-00144793-00145026 to three is a heat action process three 3H1BIIRCl1y-00612-00145027-00145326 to four the JT expansion process G 2 1 3H1BIIRCl1y-00613-00145327-00145598 is a heat exchanger process J 2 1 equals 3H1BIIRCl1y-00614-00145599-00145926 two to three alright so this is what is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00615-00145927-00146049 happening when the heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00616-00146050-00146256 effectiveness is 100 percent this is a 3H1BIIRCl1y-00617-00146257-00146457 state one at one point zero one three 3H1BIIRCl1y-00618-00146458-00146598 bar or one atmosphere 3H1BIIRCl1y-00619-00146599-00146862 this is the state to the process one two 3H1BIIRCl1y-00620-00146863-00147036 is a compression process occurring at 3H1BIIRCl1y-00621-00147037-00147153 300k 3H1BIIRCl1y-00622-00147154-00147463 so first is the the formula which we 3H1BIIRCl1y-00623-00147464-00147760 want to apply which is y is equal to h1 3H1BIIRCl1y-00624-00147761-00148060 minus h2 minus 1 minus epsilon H 1 minus 3H1BIIRCl1y-00625-00148061-00148411 H G divided by H 1 minus HF minus 1 3H1BIIRCl1y-00626-00148412-00148714 minus epsilon H 1 minus H G this is a 3H1BIIRCl1y-00627-00148715-00149002 general formula and if you put the first 3H1BIIRCl1y-00628-00149003-00149236 case now this is the formula which we 3H1BIIRCl1y-00629-00149237-00149551 get from a Linda Hampson cycle having an 3H1BIIRCl1y-00630-00149552-00149776 heat exchanger which has effectiveness 3H1BIIRCl1y-00631-00149777-00149902 value Epsilon 3H1BIIRCl1y-00632-00149903-00150121 the first case is when we want to have 3H1BIIRCl1y-00633-00150122-00150538 epsilon 1 is equal to 1 or 100% if you 3H1BIIRCl1y-00634-00150539-00150760 put this value you should get the value 3H1BIIRCl1y-00635-00150761-00151038 of y for the first case when epsilon 3H1BIIRCl1y-00636-00151039-00151381 100% the most important thing is now 3H1BIIRCl1y-00637-00151382-00151909 look at the point 1 2 F and G on the TS 3H1BIIRCl1y-00638-00151910-00152256 diagram the one is at 1 bar 3H1BIIRCl1y-00639-00152257-00152611 approximately and 300 Kelvin the point 2 3H1BIIRCl1y-00640-00152612-00152989 is at 200 bar and 300 Kelvin the point F 3H1BIIRCl1y-00641-00152990-00153385 is 1 bar and 78.8 klemish is the boiling 3H1BIIRCl1y-00642-00153386-00153616 point of here because air is the working 3H1BIIRCl1y-00643-00153617-00153966 fluid and point G is on the gas side and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00644-00153967-00154201 the point F is on the liquid side so 3H1BIIRCl1y-00645-00154202-00154429 Point G and F lie on the same 3H1BIIRCl1y-00646-00154430-00154669 temperature which is 78.8 Kelvin which 3H1BIIRCl1y-00647-00154670-00154822 is nothing but the boiling point of air 3H1BIIRCl1y-00648-00154823-00155047 get the corresponding enthalpy and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00649-00155048-00155278 entropy and the first step to do any 3H1BIIRCl1y-00650-00155279-00155454 problem is to make this table so that 3H1BIIRCl1y-00651-00155455-00155638 all these values are available to you 3H1BIIRCl1y-00652-00155639-00155896 now with my experience I can tell you if 3H1BIIRCl1y-00653-00155897-00156141 you make mistake in getting even money 3H1BIIRCl1y-00654-00156142-00156370 value the whole results will change and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00655-00156371-00156562 you will not be able to get a correct 3H1BIIRCl1y-00656-00156563-00156772 conclusion drawn from this so the most 3H1BIIRCl1y-00657-00156773-00157060 important thing is keeping calm go to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00658-00157061-00157354 the TS chart look at this point and get 3H1BIIRCl1y-00659-00157355-00157627 correct enthalpy and entropy value in 3H1BIIRCl1y-00660-00157628-00157870 accuracy of plus minus 5% is acceptable 3H1BIIRCl1y-00661-00157871-00158047 if you write instead of twenty eight 3H1BIIRCl1y-00662-00158048-00158386 point four seven as 30 no problems or 26 3H1BIIRCl1y-00663-00158387-00158647 no problem but don't go from 28 to 40 or 3H1BIIRCl1y-00664-00158648-00159076 35 that far so having got these values 3H1BIIRCl1y-00665-00159077-00159352 from this TS diagram the important thing 3H1BIIRCl1y-00666-00159353-00159700 is now put these values of H 1 H 2 H G 3H1BIIRCl1y-00667-00159701-00159997 and H F in this formula for y so the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00668-00159998-00160281 first case is when epsilon is 100% or 3H1BIIRCl1y-00669-00160282-00160492 epsilon 1 in this case 3H1BIIRCl1y-00670-00160493-00160888 is one so if I put those values H 1 H 2 3H1BIIRCl1y-00671-00160889-00161233 H 1 H F and here I got epsilon is equal 3H1BIIRCl1y-00672-00161234-00161626 to 1 so in principle the whole this side 3H1BIIRCl1y-00673-00161627-00161863 gets equal to 0 so 1 minus 1 is equal to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00674-00161864-00162028 0 on the numerator as well as 3H1BIIRCl1y-00675-00162029-00162220 denominator and the expression gets 3H1BIIRCl1y-00676-00162221-00162481 reduced to H 1 minus H 2 upon H 1 minus 3H1BIIRCl1y-00677-00162482-00162670 H F which is what we know when the heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-00678-00162671-00162916 exchanger effectiveness 100% if you put 3H1BIIRCl1y-00679-00162917-00163147 these values y1 you get is equal to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00680-00163148-00163423 point zero 8 5 all right so first case 3H1BIIRCl1y-00681-00163424-00163696 for the epsilon 1 is equal to 1 you get 3H1BIIRCl1y-00682-00163697-00163939 the Y 1 is equal to point zero 8 5 now 3H1BIIRCl1y-00683-00163940-00164089 let us go to the second case when 3H1BIIRCl1y-00684-00164090-00164476 epsilon 2 is equal to 0.95 or 95% is the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00685-00164477-00164605 effectiveness of the heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00686-00164606-00164806 again go to the same table the values 3H1BIIRCl1y-00687-00164807-00165046 will remain the same here put the values 3H1BIIRCl1y-00688-00165047-00165334 correctly calculate these values and now 3H1BIIRCl1y-00689-00165335-00165547 here you get 2 by 2 is equal to 0 point 3H1BIIRCl1y-00690-00165548-00165802 0 6 0 so if you compare it earlier 3H1BIIRCl1y-00691-00165803-00166024 values you can suddenly find that the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00692-00166025-00166273 value of y 2 is less than what you got 3H1BIIRCl1y-00693-00166274-00166477 in the earlier case as soon as you came 3H1BIIRCl1y-00694-00166478-00166678 down on the effectiveness from 100% to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00695-00166679-00166774 95% 3H1BIIRCl1y-00696-00166775-00167032 now let us go to the third case where 3H1BIIRCl1y-00697-00167033-00167356 the epsilon 3 value is 90% that mean the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00698-00167357-00167503 heat exchanger effectiveness in this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00699-00167504-00167833 case is now 90% apply the same formula 3H1BIIRCl1y-00700-00167834-00168208 again get the same values again for 1/2 3H1BIIRCl1y-00701-00168209-00168628 F and G put the values for y 3 see if I 3H1BIIRCl1y-00702-00168629-00168832 put those value and put the value of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00703-00168833-00169060 effectiveness of heat exchanger is 90% 3H1BIIRCl1y-00704-00169061-00169381 or 0.9 in this case calculate the whole 3H1BIIRCl1y-00705-00169382-00169756 thing and y 3 has come out to e 0.03 4 3H1BIIRCl1y-00706-00169757-00170008 which is again less than what you got 3H1BIIRCl1y-00707-00170009-00170242 for 95 and 100 percent effectiveness of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00708-00170243-00170452 the heat exchanger so in this case y3 is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00709-00170453-00170758 equal to 0.03 for the fourth case now we 3H1BIIRCl1y-00710-00170759-00171046 are going is for epsilon 4 is equal to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00711-00171047-00171478 0.85 0.85 or 85% effectiveness of the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00712-00171479-00171721 heat exchanger again I put the values 3H1BIIRCl1y-00713-00171722-00171985 from this table and I get the values of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00714-00171986-00172303 y 4 and if I put all those values with 3H1BIIRCl1y-00715-00172304-00172441 effectiveness of the heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00716-00172442-00172783 equal to 0.85 in this expression I get 3H1BIIRCl1y-00717-00172784-00173023 the value of y poor to be zero point 3H1BIIRCl1y-00718-00173024-00173403 zero zero six very close to zero so here 3H1BIIRCl1y-00719-00173404-00173740 we have got four cases and we went on 3H1BIIRCl1y-00720-00173741-00173872 reducing the heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00721-00173873-00174129 effectiveness from hundred percent to 85 3H1BIIRCl1y-00722-00174130-00174508 percent so in summary we want to show 3H1BIIRCl1y-00723-00174509-00174847 the schematic in the graphical form the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00724-00174848-00175177 Y values for different effectiveness of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00725-00175178-00175450 heat exchanger so if I do that for 3H1BIIRCl1y-00726-00175451-00175612 working fluid of air keeping the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00727-00175613-00175803 pressure from one bar to 200 bar of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00728-00175804-00175984 compression process the temperature of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00729-00175985-00176173 compression is 300 Kelvin for a Linda 3H1BIIRCl1y-00730-00176174-00176515 Hamilton cycle the 0.1 is effectiveness 3H1BIIRCl1y-00731-00176516-00176884 of 1 the Y value is 0.85 which I applaud 3H1BIIRCl1y-00732-00176885-00177193 over here so 0.1 for a 1 what you get is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00733-00177194-00177565 point zero at five point two for 95% 3H1BIIRCl1y-00734-00177566-00177775 effectiveness of heat exchanger what is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00735-00177776-00178351 you get is 0.06 then 0.3 is for 0.9 and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00736-00178352-00178657 what you get is point zero three four as 3H1BIIRCl1y-00737-00178658-00179032 a Y and 0.4 his effectiveness of 0.85 3H1BIIRCl1y-00738-00179033-00179314 what you get is point zero zero six 3H1BIIRCl1y-00739-00179315-00179611 which is very close to zero plot and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00740-00179612-00179962 connect by line or to get is this so 3H1BIIRCl1y-00741-00179963-00180153 joining these points we have the Train 3H1BIIRCl1y-00742-00180154-00180358 Ashman the figure which you see that as 3H1BIIRCl1y-00743-00180359-00180516 the effectiveness of heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00744-00180517-00180814 decreases the value of y decreases it is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00745-00180815-00181000 clear that as the fitting air decreases 3H1BIIRCl1y-00746-00181001-00181261 the yield y decreases drastically and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00747-00181262-00181513 what you also can see from here is if 3H1BIIRCl1y-00748-00181514-00181732 the heat exchanger is now less than 85 3H1BIIRCl1y-00749-00181733-00181999 percent the value of the Y is almost 3H1BIIRCl1y-00750-00182000-00182229 zero or there is no yield what does it 3H1BIIRCl1y-00751-00182230-00182434 mean it means that if the heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00752-00182435-00182665 effectiveness is less than 85 percent 3H1BIIRCl1y-00753-00182666-00183054 the JT expansion process will never fall 3H1BIIRCl1y-00754-00183055-00183271 in the dome it will fall outside the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00755-00183272-00183453 dome meaning which there is no 3H1BIIRCl1y-00756-00183454-00183628 liquefaction when I'm having yeti 3H1BIIRCl1y-00757-00183629-00183808 expansion process happening outside the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00758-00183809-00184041 dome it means that before the JT 3H1BIIRCl1y-00759-00184042-00184273 expansion is the gas and after it did 3H1BIIRCl1y-00760-00184274-00184447 get expansion when we want to have two 3H1BIIRCl1y-00761-00184448-00184678 phase fluid what you get at the end of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00762-00184679-00184927 the expansion is again gas and there is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00763-00184928-00185263 no liquid available so the point is that 3H1BIIRCl1y-00764-00185264-00185425 the heat exchanger effectiveness if it 3H1BIIRCl1y-00765-00185426-00185761 is less than 85 percent the JT expansion 3H1BIIRCl1y-00766-00185762-00185979 process will never fall in that dome the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00767-00185980-00186202 point before the gate expansion will be 3H1BIIRCl1y-00768-00186203-00186487 far away from the dome and therefore 3H1BIIRCl1y-00769-00186488-00186729 there will not be any liquefaction in 3H1BIIRCl1y-00770-00186730-00187135 this case so one has to be sure that the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00771-00187136-00187216 effectiveness of the heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-00772-00187217-00187513 should be much higher than 85% in fact 3H1BIIRCl1y-00773-00187514-00187849 in order to get proper value of y or the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00774-00187850-00188115 liquefaction for a Linda Hamsun cycle 3H1BIIRCl1y-00775-00188116-00188357 furthermore as we can see from this that 3H1BIIRCl1y-00776-00188358-00188543 the effectiveness should be much more 3H1BIIRCl1y-00777-00188544-00188918 than 85% in order to have liquid so this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00778-00188919-00189286 tutorial basically shows how important 3H1BIIRCl1y-00779-00189287-00189454 is the effectiveness of heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00780-00189455-00189688 ease in order to implement the Linda 3H1BIIRCl1y-00781-00189689-00189910 Hampson cycle for gas liquefaction it is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00782-00189911-00190053 not a very simple process to have a 3H1BIIRCl1y-00783-00190054-00190435 xenon of 85% and more to realize in 3H1BIIRCl1y-00784-00190436-00190634 practice it is not very simple and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00785-00190635-00190777 therefore one has to have a very very 3H1BIIRCl1y-00786-00190778-00191002 important task to design a heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-00787-00191003-00191239 exchanger to have higher values of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00788-00191240-00191524 epsilon and to have a very high values 3H1BIIRCl1y-00789-00191525-00191887 close to 95% epsilon values are to be 3H1BIIRCl1y-00790-00191888-00192079 realized in practice it's not a very 3H1BIIRCl1y-00791-00192080-00192262 simple thing and therefore encouragin is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00792-00192263-00192454 what we have is very special kind of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00793-00192455-00192625 heat exchangers of which we will talk 3H1BIIRCl1y-00794-00192626-00192928 about in the coming lectures so this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00795-00192929-00193141 tutorial one basically shows how 3H1BIIRCl1y-00796-00193142-00193264 important the heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-00797-00193265-00193465 effectiveness is from gas liquefaction 3H1BIIRCl1y-00798-00193466-00193726 point of view the second term now I want 3H1BIIRCl1y-00799-00193727-00193924 to introduce here is figure of Merit or 3H1BIIRCl1y-00800-00193925-00194236 F om and will then solve some more 3H1BIIRCl1y-00801-00194237-00194515 tutorials on this so what is figure of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00802-00194516-00194783 Merit in the earlier lecture we have 3H1BIIRCl1y-00803-00194784-00194986 seen that the ideal cycle is used as a 3H1BIIRCl1y-00804-00194987-00195185 benchmark to compare a various 3H1BIIRCl1y-00805-00195186-00195364 liquefaction cycle we talked about that 3H1BIIRCl1y-00806-00195365-00195632 the ideal thurman on a cycle is used as 3H1BIIRCl1y-00807-00195633-00195848 a benchmark to compare various 3H1BIIRCl1y-00808-00195849-00196177 liquefaction cycle in effect a parameter 3H1BIIRCl1y-00809-00196178-00196354 called figure of Merit is defined and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00810-00196355-00196670 what is it it is a ratio of the ideal 3H1BIIRCl1y-00811-00196671-00196934 work input to the actual our input to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00812-00196935-00197135 the system per unit mass of gas which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00813-00197136-00197416 liquefied so what is the work input per 3H1BIIRCl1y-00814-00197417-00197543 unit mass of gas which is liquefied 3H1BIIRCl1y-00815-00197544-00197851 ideally and in actual case so ideal work 3H1BIIRCl1y-00816-00197852-00198020 is going to be always less than that 3H1BIIRCl1y-00817-00198021-00198284 actual case and therefore mathematically 3H1BIIRCl1y-00818-00198285-00198487 we can write figure of Merit is equal to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00819-00198488-00198860 WI that is ideal our input divided by WC 3H1BIIRCl1y-00820-00198861-00199051 which is actual over input the system 3H1BIIRCl1y-00821-00199052-00199312 and based on this now we've got a second 3H1BIIRCl1y-00822-00199313-00199568 tutorial which is this determine the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00823-00199569-00199718 following for a Linda hampson system 3H1BIIRCl1y-00824-00199719-00199910 with nitrogen as a working fluid when 3H1BIIRCl1y-00825-00199911-00200147 the system is operated between again 1 1 3H1BIIRCl1y-00826-00200148-00200353 bar or one atmosphere 2 3H1BIIRCl1y-00827-00200354-00200645 200 atmosphere at 300 Kelvin the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00828-00200646-00200812 effectiveness of heat exchanger is 100% 3H1BIIRCl1y-00829-00200813-00201013 this is my tutorial number two 3H1BIIRCl1y-00830-00201014-00201344 so working fluid is nitrogen again the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00831-00201345-00201521 state one and state two are at one 3H1BIIRCl1y-00832-00201522-00201790 atmosphere to 200 atmosphere and the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00833-00201791-00201951 compression temperature is 300 Kelvin 3H1BIIRCl1y-00834-00201952-00202184 the heat exchanger effectiveness for 3H1BIIRCl1y-00835-00202185-00202346 this particular purpose is 100 percent 3H1BIIRCl1y-00836-00202347-00202556 what you want to compare or what you 3H1BIIRCl1y-00837-00202557-00202723 want to get is what is the ideal level 3H1BIIRCl1y-00838-00202724-00202954 requirement what is the liquid yield 3H1BIIRCl1y-00839-00202955-00203173 what is the work per unit mass of gas 3H1BIIRCl1y-00840-00203174-00203275 which is compressed 3H1BIIRCl1y-00841-00203276-00203524 what is the work per unit mass of gas we 3H1BIIRCl1y-00842-00203525-00203749 say liquefied and finally what is the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00843-00203750-00203933 figure of Merit for this particular case 3H1BIIRCl1y-00844-00203934-00204349 so 1 2 3 4 & 5 are required to be 3H1BIIRCl1y-00845-00204350-00204537 answered for this particular tutorial 3H1BIIRCl1y-00846-00204538-00204832 using nitrogen as a working fluid so as 3H1BIIRCl1y-00847-00204833-00204994 I said the first thing to be done is to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00848-00204996-00205342 get a TS diagram for my original now 3H1BIIRCl1y-00849-00205344-00205528 when we want to calculate the ideal work 3H1BIIRCl1y-00850-00205529-00205802 requirement we have got this cycle in 3H1BIIRCl1y-00851-00205803-00206014 the ideal cycle we say whatever is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00852-00206015-00206215 compressed gets liquefied and therefore 3H1BIIRCl1y-00853-00206216-00206434 you are a point one only determines what 3H1BIIRCl1y-00854-00206435-00206710 the point if is alright so we need to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00855-00206711-00206873 know only the state one or the starting 3H1BIIRCl1y-00856-00206873-00207034 point to get the ideal everich 3H1BIIRCl1y-00857-00207035-00207194 requirement and we have done the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00858-00207194-00207391 previous calculation the ideal work 3H1BIIRCl1y-00859-00207392-00207712 requirement is WI upon m dot is equal to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00860-00207713-00208105 t1 into s1 minus SF minus H 1 minus H F 3H1BIIRCl1y-00861-00208106-00208342 so now there are two points which is one 3H1BIIRCl1y-00862-00208344-00208636 and if so if I get a value of entropy at 3H1BIIRCl1y-00863-00208637-00208844 1 and F and if I get value of enthalpy 3H1BIIRCl1y-00864-00208844-00209150 at 1 and F I can calculate the ideal 3H1BIIRCl1y-00865-00209151-00209359 overt act requirement per unit mass of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00866-00209360-00209594 gas which is compressed so again as I 3H1BIIRCl1y-00867-00209594-00209848 said go to the TS diagram temperature 3H1BIIRCl1y-00868-00209850-00210101 entropy diagram of nitrogen and gets 3H1BIIRCl1y-00869-00210102-00210398 point 1 and if in this particular case 3H1BIIRCl1y-00870-00210398-00210689 for the ideal cycle 0.2 is actually not 3H1BIIRCl1y-00871-00210690-00210773 required in this case 3H1BIIRCl1y-00872-00210773-00211159 so the point 1 is 1 bar and 300 Kelvin 3H1BIIRCl1y-00873-00211160-00211534 point F is 1 bar and 77 Kelvin which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00874-00211535-00211744 the boiling point of nitrogen get 3H1BIIRCl1y-00875-00211746-00211964 corresponding enthalpy and entropy for 3H1BIIRCl1y-00876-00211965-00212327 this apply the formula this formula and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00877-00212328-00212573 put the values t1 is equal to 300 Kelvin 3H1BIIRCl1y-00878-00212573-00212852 s 1 minus SF this bracket 3H1BIIRCl1y-00879-00212853-00213113 H 1 minus H of this bracket and if you 3H1BIIRCl1y-00880-00213114-00213491 calculate this the ideal of work is 761 3H1BIIRCl1y-00881-00213492-00213764 Joule per gram so 3H1BIIRCl1y-00882-00213765-00214004 ideal work requirement for nitrogen for 3H1BIIRCl1y-00883-00214005-00214232 this particular condition is 761 joule 3H1BIIRCl1y-00884-00214233-00214439 per gram when it is compressed at 300 3H1BIIRCl1y-00885-00214440-00214739 Kelvin from one bar the liquid yield is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00886-00214740-00215167 H 1 minus H 2 upon H 1 minus HF this is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00887-00215169-00215390 for the actual cycle now the state 2 is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00888-00215391-00215684 at this point which is 200 bar or 200 3H1BIIRCl1y-00889-00215685-00216019 atmosphere again get data for a12 and F 3H1BIIRCl1y-00890-00216021-00216323 this is now Linda Hamson cycle so get 3H1BIIRCl1y-00891-00216323-00216517 all the values associated with this and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00892-00216519-00216673 calculate the value of y which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00893-00216675-00216935 nothing but m dot f upon m dot which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00894-00216936-00217166 a liquid yield so putting this value of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00895-00217167-00217421 H 1 minus H 2 upon H 1 minus HF is equal 3H1BIIRCl1y-00896-00217421-00217826 to this what you get is 0.07 4 so liquid 3H1BIIRCl1y-00897-00217827-00218096 yield is y which is point zero seven 3H1BIIRCl1y-00898-00218096-00218390 four in this case so work for unit mass 3H1BIIRCl1y-00899-00218391-00218617 of gas which is compressed is now T 1 3H1BIIRCl1y-00900-00218619-00218882 into s 1 minus s 2 minus H 1 minus H 2 3H1BIIRCl1y-00901-00218883-00219191 here not s 1 minus SF and not H 1 minus 3H1BIIRCl1y-00902-00219192-00219413 HF which was the case for the ideal 3H1BIIRCl1y-00903-00219414-00219623 cycle so if I get the state one and 3H1BIIRCl1y-00904-00219623-00219866 state two and if I put these properties 3H1BIIRCl1y-00905-00219867-00220069 in that particular case I can calculate 3H1BIIRCl1y-00906-00220071-00220310 the value and my actual work of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00907-00220311-00220481 compression per unit mass of gas which 3H1BIIRCl1y-00908-00220482-00220832 is compressed is 463 joule per gram okay 3H1BIIRCl1y-00909-00220833-00221066 now I want to calculate work per unit 3H1BIIRCl1y-00910-00221067-00221252 mass of gas which is liquefied and not 3H1BIIRCl1y-00911-00221253-00221471 compressed what we obtain earlier is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00912-00221471-00221630 work per unit mass of gas which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00913-00221631-00222098 compressed so WC by MDOT is 463 which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00914-00222098-00222239 a work per unit mass of gas which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00915-00222240-00222464 compressed the Y value is point zero 3H1BIIRCl1y-00916-00222465-00222683 seven four and if I want to calculate 3H1BIIRCl1y-00917-00222684-00222892 now work per unit mass of gas which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00918-00222894-00223192 liquefied which is WC upon m dot F what 3H1BIIRCl1y-00919-00223194-00223466 I am going to do is to divide WC by MDOT 3H1BIIRCl1y-00920-00223467-00223790 by Y right if you put the value of y 3H1BIIRCl1y-00921-00223791-00224141 here what you get is WC upon m dot F so 3H1BIIRCl1y-00922-00224142-00224698 463 upon 0.074 gives you 6 2 6 5 point 2 3H1BIIRCl1y-00923-00224700-00224861 2 joule per gram 3H1BIIRCl1y-00924-00224862-00225038 all right so this is the rather high 3H1BIIRCl1y-00925-00225039-00225191 value as compared to what you got 3H1BIIRCl1y-00926-00225192-00225269 ideally 3H1BIIRCl1y-00927-00225269-00225494 in ideal case were per unit mass of gas 3H1BIIRCl1y-00928-00225494-00225677 liquefied is equal to the work per unit 3H1BIIRCl1y-00929-00225678-00225851 mass of gas which is compressed so what 3H1BIIRCl1y-00930-00225852-00226076 we had calculated then is also work per 3H1BIIRCl1y-00931-00226077-00226294 unit mass of gas liquefied what you are 3H1BIIRCl1y-00932-00226296-00226475 getting here also is now work per unit 3H1BIIRCl1y-00933-00226476-00226700 mass of gas which is liquefied in this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00934-00226701-00226907 case so if I want to calculate figure of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00935-00226908-00227092 Merit or a foil which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00936-00227094-00227438 I should get w c upon m dot f for an 3H1BIIRCl1y-00937-00227439-00227798 actual case an ideal case is wi upon m 3H1BIIRCl1y-00938-00227798-00228119 dot F which is 767 so the figure of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00939-00228119-00228296 Merit is and the ideal work of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00940-00228296-00228469 compression per unit mass of gas which 3H1BIIRCl1y-00941-00228471-00228716 is liquefied divided by the actual work 3H1BIIRCl1y-00942-00228717-00228941 per unit mass of gas which is liquefied 3H1BIIRCl1y-00943-00228942-00229283 so if I put that I will get 767 upon six 3H1BIIRCl1y-00944-00229284-00229640 two six five and zero point one two two 3H1BIIRCl1y-00945-00229641-00229832 five this is my figure of Merit in this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00946-00229833-00230006 particular case alright so we have 3H1BIIRCl1y-00947-00230007-00230381 solved all the four required things for 3H1BIIRCl1y-00948-00230382-00230630 the tutorial number two now I go to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00949-00230631-00230927 tutorial number three which is the same 3H1BIIRCl1y-00950-00230928-00231191 thing but now Here I am changing the gas 3H1BIIRCl1y-00951-00231192-00231446 from nitrogen to argon so determine the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00952-00231446-00231602 following for Linda Hampton system with 3H1BIIRCl1y-00953-00231603-00231791 Aragon as a working fluid when the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00954-00231792-00231994 system is operated from again one 3H1BIIRCl1y-00955-00231996-00232135 atmosphere to two-hundred mosphere 3H1BIIRCl1y-00956-00232136-00232328 at seen at Kelvin the effectiveness of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00957-00232329-00232519 heat exchanger is 100 percent the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00958-00232521-00232660 tutorial is solved just to show the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00959-00232661-00232853 difference what happens when I go from a 3H1BIIRCl1y-00960-00232854-00233126 gas to be yes all right so it's just a 3H1BIIRCl1y-00961-00233127-00233398 repetition of the earlier tutorial just 3H1BIIRCl1y-00962-00233400-00233648 to get you habituate 'add with how to 3H1BIIRCl1y-00963-00233648-00233891 read a TS diagram for Oregon TS diagram 3H1BIIRCl1y-00964-00233892-00234104 from nitrogen and repeat all the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00965-00234105-00234323 methodologies in order so again I will 3H1BIIRCl1y-00966-00234323-00234512 calculate ideal work of requirement 3H1BIIRCl1y-00967-00234513-00234827 which is WI upon m dot now I will go for 3H1BIIRCl1y-00968-00234828-00235154 Aragon TS chart the moment I go for 3H1BIIRCl1y-00969-00235155-00235400 Aragon TS chart I got different enthalpy 3H1BIIRCl1y-00970-00235401-00235684 and entropy value at point one two and F 3H1BIIRCl1y-00971-00235685-00235901 as well the idea work is concerned I 3H1BIIRCl1y-00972-00235902-00236063 don't have to depend on this state to I 3H1BIIRCl1y-00973-00236064-00236344 have to go for one and F only well for 3H1BIIRCl1y-00974-00236346-00236504 actual case I will have to go for points 3H1BIIRCl1y-00975-00236505-00236746 one two and F so if I will get these 3H1BIIRCl1y-00976-00236748-00236927 values one and F and put in this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00977-00236928-00237164 equation I will get the ideal work 3H1BIIRCl1y-00978-00237165-00237446 requirement as 476 joule per gram for 3H1BIIRCl1y-00979-00237446-00237740 aragon the liquid I yield is depending 3H1BIIRCl1y-00980-00237741-00237934 on the state one and state two H 1 minus 3H1BIIRCl1y-00981-00237935-00238226 H 2 upon H 1 minus HF again get the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00982-00238227-00238430 table and I can calculate the value of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00983-00238431-00238669 equated in this case is zero point one 3H1BIIRCl1y-00984-00238671-00238901 one seven six so if I want to calculate 3H1BIIRCl1y-00985-00238902-00239066 the work per unit mass of gas which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-00986-00239067-00239306 compressed my formalised WC upon m dot 3H1BIIRCl1y-00987-00239307-00239606 is T 1 into s 1 minus s 2 minus H 1 3H1BIIRCl1y-00988-00239607-00239909 minus H 2 1 and 2 are the state point 3H1BIIRCl1y-00989-00239910-00240167 for the compression processes again put 3H1BIIRCl1y-00990-00240167-00240329 the value of enthalpy and entropy in 3H1BIIRCl1y-00991-00240330-00240450 this equation 3H1BIIRCl1y-00992-00240451-00240696 what you get is now 3:26 joule per gram 3H1BIIRCl1y-00993-00240696-00240917 this is the word per unit mass of gas 3H1BIIRCl1y-00994-00240919-00241134 compressed if I want to calculate the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00995-00241135-00241323 work per unit mass of gas liquefied I 3H1BIIRCl1y-00996-00241323-00241596 will divide this value by y or the 3H1BIIRCl1y-00997-00241596-00241812 liquid yield so work per unit mass of 3H1BIIRCl1y-00998-00241813-00242061 gas liquefied is going to come from this 3H1BIIRCl1y-00999-00242062-00242352 value and corresponding Y so WC upon m 3H1BIIRCl1y-01000-00242353-00242616 dot F is equal to WC upon m dot divided 3H1BIIRCl1y-01001-00242617-00242942 by a by and now work per unit mass of 3H1BIIRCl1y-01002-00242944-00243156 gas liquefied comes to be two seven 3H1BIIRCl1y-01003-00243157-00243450 seven two point one and finally when I 3H1BIIRCl1y-01004-00243451-00243723 want to calculate the figure of Merit WC 3H1BIIRCl1y-01005-00243723-00243927 upon m dot F is equal to two seven seven 3H1BIIRCl1y-01006-00243928-00244292 two point one W I upon m dot F is 4/7 3H1BIIRCl1y-01007-00244294-00244629 disease so the ideal lower input paramus 3H1BIIRCl1y-01008-00244630-00244892 of gas which is liquefied actual work 3H1BIIRCl1y-01009-00244894-00245139 input per mass of gas which is liquefied 3H1BIIRCl1y-01010-00245140-00245391 and this divided by this is nothing but 3H1BIIRCl1y-01011-00245392-00245604 figure of Merit so figure of Merit is 3H1BIIRCl1y-01012-00245605-00245976 ideal our input actual work input per 3H1BIIRCl1y-01013-00245977-00246192 unit of gas which is liquefied putting 3H1BIIRCl1y-01014-00246192-00246360 these values over here the figure of 3H1BIIRCl1y-01015-00246361-00246519 Merit comes out to be zero point one 3H1BIIRCl1y-01016-00246519-00246807 seven one seventy four ever gone when 3H1BIIRCl1y-01017-00246808-00246960 compressed from one bar to two hundred 3H1BIIRCl1y-01018-00246961-00247269 bar at 300 Kelvin we are just solved the 3H1BIIRCl1y-01019-00247269-00247653 problem for nitrogen and argon and we 3H1BIIRCl1y-01020-00247654-00247839 found that the figure of Merit in this 3H1BIIRCl1y-01021-00247840-00248141 case was around 0.12 and point one seven 3H1BIIRCl1y-01022-00248142-00248331 corresponding boiling points are given 3H1BIIRCl1y-01023-00248332-00248523 corresponding Y values are given liquid 3H1BIIRCl1y-01024-00248523-00248808 yield are given what is the work of 3H1BIIRCl1y-01025-00248809-00248982 compression per unit mass of gas which 3H1BIIRCl1y-01026-00248983-00249057 is compress 3H1BIIRCl1y-01027-00249058-00249248 what is the work of compression per unit 3H1BIIRCl1y-01028-00249250-00249456 mass of gas which is liquefied and then 3H1BIIRCl1y-01029-00249457-00249623 finally what what you get to the figure 3H1BIIRCl1y-01030-00249625-00249903 of Merit we also given a values for air 3H1BIIRCl1y-01031-00249904-00250046 and oxygen for which should we have done 3H1BIIRCl1y-01032-00250048-00250254 calculations but these two hell is I am 3H1BIIRCl1y-01033-00250255-00250458 going to give you four assignments at 3H1BIIRCl1y-01034-00250459-00250728 the end of this lecture please solve 3H1BIIRCl1y-01035-00250729-00250875 those assignments and compare your 3H1BIIRCl1y-01036-00250876-00251091 values with the values of figure of 3H1BIIRCl1y-01037-00251092-00251403 Merit or Y or these values given in this 3H1BIIRCl1y-01038-00251404-00251604 table which we will see about in the 3H1BIIRCl1y-01039-00251605-00251792 later part of this lecture the above 3H1BIIRCl1y-01040-00251794-00251996 table is for Linda Hampson cycle when 3H1BIIRCl1y-01041-00251998-00252192 the pressures are from one bar to 200 3H1BIIRCl1y-01042-00252192-00252473 bar at 300 Kelvin the heat exchanger in 3H1BIIRCl1y-01043-00252475-00252627 all these cases is has them to be one 3H1BIIRCl1y-01044-00252628-00252855 hundred percent I am now solving a 3H1BIIRCl1y-01045-00252856-00253032 tutorial number four which is basically 3H1BIIRCl1y-01046-00253033-00253257 main to understand again effectiveness 3H1BIIRCl1y-01047-00253258-00253440 of heat exchangers on all these 3H1BIIRCl1y-01048-00253441-00253544 parameters 3H1BIIRCl1y-01049-00253544-00253753 so for the condition specified in 3H1BIIRCl1y-01050-00253754-00253960 tutorial number two for Linda Hampton 3H1BIIRCl1y-01051-00253961-00254184 system with nitrogen as working fluid 3H1BIIRCl1y-01052-00254185-00254392 calculate the falling when the 3H1BIIRCl1y-01053-00254394-00254594 effectiveness of heat exchanger is 90% 3H1BIIRCl1y-01054-00254594-00254848 so get a liquid yield work per unit mass 3H1BIIRCl1y-01055-00254850-00255019 of gas compressor work per unit mass of 3H1BIIRCl1y-01056-00255021-00255266 gas liquefied and figure of Merit and 3H1BIIRCl1y-01057-00255267-00255476 ultimately what is most important is 3H1BIIRCl1y-01058-00255477-00255673 comment on the results so what you got 3H1BIIRCl1y-01059-00255675-00255880 earlier was for effectiveness of heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-01060-00255881-00256091 exchanger equal to 100 percent and what 3H1BIIRCl1y-01061-00256092-00256255 you calculate now in this problem is 3H1BIIRCl1y-01062-00256256-00256459 going to be for the epsilon value equal 3H1BIIRCl1y-01063-00256460-00256660 to 90 percent so get the results for 3H1BIIRCl1y-01064-00256661-00256865 this problem and compare all these 3H1BIIRCl1y-01065-00256866-00257114 values with the tutorial number one or 3H1BIIRCl1y-01066-00257115-00257305 two which you got for nitrogen as 3H1BIIRCl1y-01067-00257306-00257569 working fluid alright and comment on the 3H1BIIRCl1y-01068-00257571-00257707 result is the most important thing 3H1BIIRCl1y-01069-00257708-00257963 because what has happened because the 3H1BIIRCl1y-01070-00257964-00258119 effectiveness came down from hundred to 3H1BIIRCl1y-01071-00258119-00258259 ninety percent is very important to 3H1BIIRCl1y-01072-00258260-00258494 understand so the process is same when 3H1BIIRCl1y-01073-00258494-00258673 the formula changes now because epsilon 3H1BIIRCl1y-01074-00258675-00258851 comes into picture so this is the 3H1BIIRCl1y-01075-00258852-00259073 formula I am going to use down in this 3H1BIIRCl1y-01076-00259073-00259277 case so epsilon is equal to ninety 3H1BIIRCl1y-01077-00259278-00259546 percent and this is a table now 1/2 F 3H1BIIRCl1y-01078-00259548-00259831 and G what you get is y is equal to in 3H1BIIRCl1y-01079-00259832-00260051 this case zero point zero two one so Y 3H1BIIRCl1y-01080-00260052-00260317 has suddenly decreased now to zero point 3H1BIIRCl1y-01081-00260319-00260581 zero to one in order to calculate the 3H1BIIRCl1y-01082-00260582-00260771 additional work that is to be done we 3H1BIIRCl1y-01083-00260771-00260929 have to calculate what is the H one dash 3H1BIIRCl1y-01084-00260930-00261167 if you remember from earlier discussion 3H1BIIRCl1y-01085-00261167-00261419 H one dash is equal to epsilon H one 3H1BIIRCl1y-01086-00261419-00261794 minus HG plus HG putting those values if 3H1BIIRCl1y-01087-00261794-00262009 someone well is ninety percent H one 3H1BIIRCl1y-01088-00262010-00262166 dash is equal to four thirty eight point 3H1BIIRCl1y-01089-00262167-00262493 eight so if I want to calculate now the 3H1BIIRCl1y-01090-00262494-00262643 additional over the compressor does 3H1BIIRCl1y-01091-00262644-00262891 which is equal to H one minus H one dash 3H1BIIRCl1y-01092-00262892-00263134 is equal to twenty three point Joule per 3H1BIIRCl1y-01093-00263135-00263404 gram so the compressor does this much 3H1BIIRCl1y-01094-00263405-00263659 additional work in four sixty two which 3H1BIIRCl1y-01095-00263660-00263929 is almost five percent of what it was 3H1BIIRCl1y-01096-00263930-00264232 earlier so five percent more work has to 3H1BIIRCl1y-01097-00264233-00264457 be done in order to get the enthalpy 3H1BIIRCl1y-01098-00264458-00264701 from H 1 - 2 H 1 and then the compress 3H1BIIRCl1y-01099-00264702-00264920 the gas from H 1 to H 2 in this case 3H1BIIRCl1y-01100-00264921-00265105 when the effectiveness of heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-01101-00265106-00265354 is ninety percent so work per unit mass 3H1BIIRCl1y-01102-00265355-00265616 of gas compressed is the same formula I 3H1BIIRCl1y-01103-00265617-00265978 will get these values and calculate DS 3H1BIIRCl1y-01104-00265979-00266356 and what you get now he is 463 over here 3H1BIIRCl1y-01105-00266357-00266639 so if I want to get total work done is 3H1BIIRCl1y-01106-00266640-00266828 equal to this is the work done from 3H1BIIRCl1y-01107-00266829-00266882 point 3H1BIIRCl1y-01108-00266883-00267141 to do so point one to two plus 3H1BIIRCl1y-01109-00267142-00267275 additional work which is going to be 3H1BIIRCl1y-01110-00267276-00267462 done is going to give me an actual over 3H1BIIRCl1y-01111-00267463-00267663 on a total work of compression per unit 3H1BIIRCl1y-01112-00267664-00267824 mass of gas which is compressed which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-01113-00267825-00267998 now four eighty six point two so an 3H1BIIRCl1y-01114-00267999-00268188 earlier case it was 463 now it is four 3H1BIIRCl1y-01115-00268189-00268409 eighty six point two were per unit mass 3H1BIIRCl1y-01116-00268410-00268646 of gas which is liquefied it is this 3H1BIIRCl1y-01117-00268647-00268898 divided by Y which is very small point 3H1BIIRCl1y-01118-00268899-00269222 zero to one so I get now WC upon m dot F 3H1BIIRCl1y-01119-00269223-00269435 is equal to twenty two thousand six 3H1BIIRCl1y-01120-00269436-00269597 hundred and thirteen point nine five 3H1BIIRCl1y-01121-00269598-00269825 this is rather a high as compared to 3H1BIIRCl1y-01122-00269826-00269999 what it was earlier and the 3H1BIIRCl1y-01123-00270000-00270176 corresponding figure of Merit now here 3H1BIIRCl1y-01124-00270177-00270632 is WI upon M F dot is equal to 760 1wc 3H1BIIRCl1y-01125-00270633-00270956 upon M m dot is this if I divide this if 3H1BIIRCl1y-01126-00270957-00271317 FY M comes to be 0.03 so you can see if 3H1BIIRCl1y-01127-00271318-00271571 I want to summarize what you can see is 3H1BIIRCl1y-01128-00271572-00271796 these are the two columns when the 3H1BIIRCl1y-01129-00271797-00271955 epsilon is one hundred percent in the 3H1BIIRCl1y-01130-00271956-00272213 epsilon is ninety percent in this case 3H1BIIRCl1y-01131-00272214-00272474 so you can compare the Y values the Y 3H1BIIRCl1y-01132-00272475-00272579 value for one hundred percent 3H1BIIRCl1y-01133-00272580-00272735 effectiveness was zero point zero seven 3H1BIIRCl1y-01134-00272736-00272964 four and it has come to zero point zero 3H1BIIRCl1y-01135-00272965-00273195 to one the percentage decrease has been 3H1BIIRCl1y-01136-00273196-00273374 seventy one percent if I see the 3H1BIIRCl1y-01137-00273375-00273575 compressor work per mass of gas which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-01138-00273576-00273816 compressed it has increased from four 3H1BIIRCl1y-01139-00273817-00273998 sixty three to four eighty six and 3H1BIIRCl1y-01140-00273999-00274199 therefore percentage change is minus 3H1BIIRCl1y-01141-00274200-00274457 five percent if I see the compression of 3H1BIIRCl1y-01142-00274458-00274622 work done per unit mass of gas which is 3H1BIIRCl1y-01143-00274623-00274866 liquefied it has been rather high six 3H1BIIRCl1y-01144-00274867-00275115 two six five it has increased to twenty 3H1BIIRCl1y-01145-00275116-00275319 two thousand six one four that means 3H1BIIRCl1y-01146-00275320-00275507 there is the increase of to sixty one 3H1BIIRCl1y-01147-00275508-00275771 percent this is happening because Y 3H1BIIRCl1y-01148-00275772-00275951 value had decreased drastically by 3H1BIIRCl1y-01149-00275952-00276170 seventy one percent and finally the 3H1BIIRCl1y-01150-00276171-00276393 figure of Merit has decreased by almost 3H1BIIRCl1y-01151-00276394-00276567 seven to two percent so this example 3H1BIIRCl1y-01152-00276568-00276816 shows that as soon as you reduce down 3H1BIIRCl1y-01153-00276817-00277034 from 100 percent to ninety percent there 3H1BIIRCl1y-01154-00277035-00277208 are so many change in drastic changes 3H1BIIRCl1y-01155-00277209-00277424 are happening in the yield value as well 3H1BIIRCl1y-01156-00277425-00277673 a figure of Merit and therefore one has 3H1BIIRCl1y-01157-00277674-00277944 to be very careful in the effectiveness 3H1BIIRCl1y-01158-00277945-00278118 calculation and heat exchanger design 3H1BIIRCl1y-01159-00278119-00278330 these are very very important design 3H1BIIRCl1y-01160-00278331-00278613 aspects of any liquefaction of system so 3H1BIIRCl1y-01161-00278614-00278820 this example highlights the importance 3H1BIIRCl1y-01162-00278821-00279080 of epsilon value for any cycle in 3H1BIIRCl1y-01163-00279081-00279299 cryogenic liquefaction of gases 3H1BIIRCl1y-01164-00279300-00279452 alright so about what have you the 3H1BIIRCl1y-01165-00279453-00279596 significance of heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-01166-00279597-00279792 effectiveness for Olinda Hamsun system 3H1BIIRCl1y-01167-00279793-00280038 and we're going to assignment here based 3H1BIIRCl1y-01168-00280039-00280215 on what we have done with air as a 3H1BIIRCl1y-01169-00280216-00280272 working 3H1BIIRCl1y-01170-00280273-00280503 calculate these we are done for nitrogen 3H1BIIRCl1y-01171-00280504-00280719 and argon calculate all these things 3H1BIIRCl1y-01172-00280720-00281028 please do it for air and oxygen and also 3H1BIIRCl1y-01173-00281029-00281214 repeat the same problem when the 3H1BIIRCl1y-01174-00281215-00281481 effectiveness is 90% and compare and 3H1BIIRCl1y-01175-00281482-00281670 comment on the results please do these 3H1BIIRCl1y-01176-00281671-00281901 three assignments this will really give 3H1BIIRCl1y-01177-00281902-00282228 you a feel for the values for these two 3H1BIIRCl1y-01178-00282229-00282666 particular gases finally to summarize 3H1BIIRCl1y-01179-00282667-00283010 what we have learned today a heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-01180-00283011-00283206 exchanger is a device in which the cold 3H1BIIRCl1y-01181-00283207-00283356 is transferred from cold fluid to hot 3H1BIIRCl1y-01182-00283357-00283572 fluid everybody knows this the 3H1BIIRCl1y-01183-00283573-00283755 effectiveness epsilon is defined as a 3H1BIIRCl1y-01184-00283756-00283980 ratio of actual heat transfer that is 3H1BIIRCl1y-01185-00283981-00284151 occurring to the maximum possible heat 3H1BIIRCl1y-01186-00284152-00284349 transfer that can occur theoretically in 3H1BIIRCl1y-01187-00284350-00284553 a heat exchanger it is a dimensionless 3H1BIIRCl1y-01188-00284554-00284853 number between 0 to 1 in the Linda 3H1BIIRCl1y-01189-00284854-00284997 Hamilton cycle the heat exchanger 3H1BIIRCl1y-01190-00284998-00285228 effectiveness is epsilon is equal to H 1 3H1BIIRCl1y-01191-00285229-00285506 dash upon H G divided by H 1 minus H G 3H1BIIRCl1y-01192-00285507-00285758 or on a high pressure side which is H 3 3H1BIIRCl1y-01193-00285759-00286053 dash of minus H 2 divided by H 3 minus H 3H1BIIRCl1y-01194-00286054-00286326 2 the liquid yield y of a Linda hampson 3H1BIIRCl1y-01195-00286327-00286599 cycle is given by this expression where 3H1BIIRCl1y-01196-00286600-00286784 epsilon plays a very important role as 3H1BIIRCl1y-01197-00286785-00286998 we have just found as the effectiveness 3H1BIIRCl1y-01198-00286999-00287199 decreases the yield y decreases 3H1BIIRCl1y-01199-00287200-00287459 drastically furthermore the 3H1BIIRCl1y-01200-00287460-00287691 effectiveness should be more than 85% in 3H1BIIRCl1y-01201-00287692-00287877 order to have liquid yield in Linda 3H1BIIRCl1y-01202-00287878-00289534 Hampson cycle thank you very much 3H1BIIRCl1y-01203-00289535-00289741 you 3IJg0U7DBuI-00000-00000664-00000771 there are 3IJg0U7DBuI-00001-00000772-00001070 195 countries in the world well give or 3IJg0U7DBuI-00002-00001071-00001262 take depending on how and which you 3IJg0U7DBuI-00003-00001263-00001511 count and by the year 2027 there will be 3IJg0U7DBuI-00004-00001512-00001791 at least one more raising the consensus 3IJg0U7DBuI-00005-00001792-00001947 total to 3IJg0U7DBuI-00006-00001948-00002191 196. this new country will be 3IJg0U7DBuI-00007-00002192-00002439 bougainville bougainville is today an 3IJg0U7DBuI-00008-00002440-00002687 island an autonomous region of papua new 3IJg0U7DBuI-00009-00002688-00002902 guinea the country in oceania near 3IJg0U7DBuI-00010-00002903-00003134 indonesia and australia the autonomous 3IJg0U7DBuI-00011-00003135-00003351 region actually also consists of the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00012-00003352-00003606 main island plus a few other minor ones 3IJg0U7DBuI-00013-00003607-00003895 including the not-so-small buca island 3IJg0U7DBuI-00014-00003896-00004151 and in 2019 they held a referendum on 3IJg0U7DBuI-00015-00004152-00004319 whether or not they wanted their 3IJg0U7DBuI-00016-00004320-00004583 independence to become their own country 3IJg0U7DBuI-00017-00004584-00005015 the yes one with a gigantic 98.31 3IJg0U7DBuI-00018-00005016-00005231 of the votes and as a result the region 3IJg0U7DBuI-00019-00005232-00005438 of bougainville will become independent 3IJg0U7DBuI-00020-00005439-00005735 by 2027. it's not often that we see a 3IJg0U7DBuI-00021-00005736-00005983 new country arise in the world and so in 3IJg0U7DBuI-00022-00005984-00006191 this video i want to try to understand 3IJg0U7DBuI-00023-00006192-00006414 why bougainville wants to be independent 3IJg0U7DBuI-00024-00006415-00006606 how it will look like when they are and 3IJg0U7DBuI-00025-00006608-00006775 what the history of the island and 3IJg0U7DBuI-00026-00006776-00007087 nation is 3IJg0U7DBuI-00027-00007088-00007287 bougainville today has around three 3IJg0U7DBuI-00028-00007288-00007487 hundred thousand people most of which 3IJg0U7DBuI-00029-00007488-00007742 speak the local language of tok pisin 3IJg0U7DBuI-00030-00007743-00007991 although a multitude of languages exist 3IJg0U7DBuI-00031-00007992-00008207 their flag is this one a depiction of a 3IJg0U7DBuI-00032-00008208-00008463 red and white ope over a black circle 3IJg0U7DBuI-00033-00008464-00008703 surrounded by green and white on top of 3IJg0U7DBuI-00034-00008704-00008942 a blue field and upa is a traditional 3IJg0U7DBuI-00035-00008943-00009174 headdress worn by men in parts of 3IJg0U7DBuI-00036-00009175-00009471 bougainville the main island is 9 300 3IJg0U7DBuI-00037-00009472-00009678 square kilometers boca island is much 3IJg0U7DBuI-00038-00009679-00009903 smaller at 500 square kilometers and the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00039-00009904-00010142 rest are even smaller although we must 3IJg0U7DBuI-00040-00010143-00010367 take into account that when independent 3IJg0U7DBuI-00041-00010368-00010583 they will hold their own exclusive 3IJg0U7DBuI-00042-00010584-00010814 economic area in the ocean and islands 3IJg0U7DBuI-00043-00010815-00011014 usually have very large sea territory 3IJg0U7DBuI-00044-00011015-00011199 under their sovereignty the estimated 3IJg0U7DBuI-00045-00011200-00011423 size here is around 500 additional 3IJg0U7DBuI-00046-00011424-00011631 square kilometers bougainville is the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00047-00011632-00011831 largest island in the solomon islands 3IJg0U7DBuI-00048-00011832-00012070 archipelago but it is separated from the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00049-00012071-00012303 existing country of solomon islands and 3IJg0U7DBuI-00050-00012304-00012519 the reason why it is separated first as 3IJg0U7DBuI-00051-00012520-00012710 a part of papua new guinea and now soon 3IJg0U7DBuI-00052-00012711-00012943 to be an independent country has to do 3IJg0U7DBuI-00053-00012944-00013151 with its history bougainville was 3IJg0U7DBuI-00054-00013152-00013375 settled by the austronesian people 3IJg0U7DBuI-00055-00013376-00013575 around three to four thousand years ago 3IJg0U7DBuI-00056-00013576-00013822 and the first european contact came only 3IJg0U7DBuI-00057-00013823-00014143 in 1868 when french explorer louis 3IJg0U7DBuI-00058-00014144-00014366 antoine de bourganville arrived naming 3IJg0U7DBuI-00059-00014368-00014566 the island after himself there are 3IJg0U7DBuI-00060-00014568-00014830 reports of other explorers dutch and 3IJg0U7DBuI-00061-00014831-00015030 spanish siding the island but this is 3IJg0U7DBuI-00062-00015031-00015207 where the name comes from his name in 3IJg0U7DBuI-00063-00015208-00015479 turn comes from a small commune in the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00064-00015480-00015686 somme department a territory in northern 3IJg0U7DBuI-00065-00015687-00015943 france where i assume he was from a fun 3IJg0U7DBuI-00066-00015944-00016135 fact there's also a plant named 3IJg0U7DBuI-00067-00016136-00016350 bougainvillea also named after the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00068-00016351-00016527 explorer but it's native to south 3IJg0U7DBuI-00069-00016528-00016750 america found in brazil peru and 3IJg0U7DBuI-00070-00016751-00016999 argentina named by a botanist was 3IJg0U7DBuI-00071-00017000-00017191 accompanying the french navy admiral 3IJg0U7DBuI-00072-00017192-00017358 during his trip around the world i 3IJg0U7DBuI-00073-00017359-00017543 wonder if when independence is reached 3IJg0U7DBuI-00074-00017544-00017727 the name of the country will change to 3IJg0U7DBuI-00075-00017728-00017886 something that better reflects the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00076-00017887-00018094 natives and inhabitants of the island 3IJg0U7DBuI-00077-00018095-00018271 but despite the fact that the french 3IJg0U7DBuI-00078-00018272-00018463 were the first europeans to arrive it 3IJg0U7DBuI-00079-00018464-00018686 did not become a french colony instead 3IJg0U7DBuI-00080-00018687-00018903 being claimed by the german empire as a 3IJg0U7DBuI-00081-00018904-00019167 part of their german new guinea colony 3IJg0U7DBuI-00082-00019168-00019399 during world war 1 australia occupied 3IJg0U7DBuI-00083-00019400-00019614 german new guinea including bougainville 3IJg0U7DBuI-00084-00019615-00019822 after the war when germany lost all of 3IJg0U7DBuI-00085-00019823-00020022 its colonies the island became part of 3IJg0U7DBuI-00086-00020023-00020271 the australian territory of new guinea 3IJg0U7DBuI-00087-00020272-00020511 under a league of nations mandate this 3IJg0U7DBuI-00088-00020512-00020830 was in 1920 in 1942 during world war ii 3IJg0U7DBuI-00089-00020831-00021055 japan invaded the island but allied 3IJg0U7DBuI-00090-00021056-00021230 forces launched the bougainville 3IJg0U7DBuI-00091-00021231-00021414 campaign to regain control of it in 3IJg0U7DBuI-00092-00021415-00021630 1943. the bougainville campaign was 3IJg0U7DBuI-00093-00021631-00021863 actually one of the major series of land 3IJg0U7DBuI-00094-00021864-00022055 and naval battles between the us 3IJg0U7DBuI-00095-00022056-00022255 australia new zealand and the empire of 3IJg0U7DBuI-00096-00022256-00022511 japan it lasted a year and a half up to 3IJg0U7DBuI-00097-00022512-00022775 pretty much the end of the war in 1945 3IJg0U7DBuI-00098-00022776-00022994 and saw the deployment of over 3IJg0U7DBuI-00099-00022995-00023367 170 thousand allied soldiers and 65 000 3IJg0U7DBuI-00100-00023368-00023647 japanese sadly with over 20 000 having 3IJg0U7DBuI-00101-00023648-00023814 died altogether after the war the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00102-00023815-00023991 territory of new guinea including 3IJg0U7DBuI-00103-00023992-00024230 bougainville was returned to australian 3IJg0U7DBuI-00104-00024231-00024391 control and what was soon to become 3IJg0U7DBuI-00105-00024392-00024583 papua new guinea was also under 3IJg0U7DBuI-00106-00024584-00024767 australian sovereignty after the war 3IJg0U7DBuI-00107-00024768-00024983 because of this and due to the proximity 3IJg0U7DBuI-00108-00024984-00025175 of the two territories wugenfield was 3IJg0U7DBuI-00109-00025176-00025367 incorporated into the australian 3IJg0U7DBuI-00110-00025368-00025550 territory of papua and new guinea in 3IJg0U7DBuI-00111-00025551-00025862 1949 eventually in 1975 when papua new 3IJg0U7DBuI-00112-00025863-00026055 guinea became an independent country 3IJg0U7DBuI-00113-00026056-00026270 bougainville went along with it sort of 3IJg0U7DBuI-00114-00026272-00026502 a package deal if you will continuing 3IJg0U7DBuI-00115-00026504-00026718 under its administration so essentially 3IJg0U7DBuI-00116-00026719-00026927 despite perhaps having some cultural 3IJg0U7DBuI-00117-00026927-00027135 proximity the only reason that 3IJg0U7DBuI-00118-00027136-00027302 bougainville was a part of papua new 3IJg0U7DBuI-00119-00027304-00027511 guinea was just that the two territories 3IJg0U7DBuI-00120-00027512-00027679 happened to be next to each other and 3IJg0U7DBuI-00121-00027680-00027951 happened to be both temporarily ruled by 3IJg0U7DBuI-00122-00027952-00028151 australia if events had run their 3IJg0U7DBuI-00123-00028152-00028318 natural course perhaps they would be 3IJg0U7DBuI-00124-00028319-00028535 part of the solomon islands country or 3IJg0U7DBuI-00125-00028536-00028679 would have reached independence much 3IJg0U7DBuI-00126-00028680-00028870 sooner the reason why they didn't become 3IJg0U7DBuI-00127-00028872-00029070 a part of the solomon islands by the way 3IJg0U7DBuI-00128-00029072-00029214 is that the northern part of the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00129-00029216-00029423 archipelago was initially a german 3IJg0U7DBuI-00130-00029424-00029583 colony while the southern part was a 3IJg0U7DBuI-00131-00029583-00029799 british one but already at the time the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00132-00029800-00030046 people of bougainville realized the lack 3IJg0U7DBuI-00133-00030047-00030231 of logic they were never papua new 3IJg0U7DBuI-00134-00030232-00030455 guinea so why should they now be under 3IJg0U7DBuI-00135-00030456-00030662 the control of this new country because 3IJg0U7DBuI-00136-00030663-00030839 of this after papuan independence 3IJg0U7DBuI-00137-00030839-00031007 boukenville proclaimed its own 3IJg0U7DBuI-00138-00031008-00031183 independence declaring themselves the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00139-00031183-00031414 republic of the north solomons and 3IJg0U7DBuI-00140-00031416-00031583 adopting the flag they have today the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00141-00031583-00031790 fact it was originally created and 3IJg0U7DBuI-00142-00031791-00031974 adopted by an independence movement 3IJg0U7DBuI-00143-00031975-00032151 leads me to believe it will remain as 3IJg0U7DBuI-00144-00032152-00032358 the country's national flag however no 3IJg0U7DBuI-00145-00032360-00032527 other country or international 3IJg0U7DBuI-00146-00032527-00032743 organization recognized it as their own 3IJg0U7DBuI-00147-00032744-00032959 country tensions escalated and papua new 3IJg0U7DBuI-00148-00032960-00033215 guinea sent a squadron of riot police to 3IJg0U7DBuI-00149-00033216-00033439 the island to restore order an action 3IJg0U7DBuI-00150-00033440-00033671 seen by the locals as an invasion but 3IJg0U7DBuI-00151-00033672-00033871 they had no way of fighting it and so 3IJg0U7DBuI-00152-00033872-00034062 they were forced to settle with papua 3IJg0U7DBuI-00153-00034063-00034239 new guinea accepting their rule in 3IJg0U7DBuI-00154-00034240-00034495 return for increased self-governance 3IJg0U7DBuI-00155-00034496-00034711 powers self-governance was however not 3IJg0U7DBuI-00156-00034712-00034927 enough for many of the locals who still 3IJg0U7DBuI-00157-00034928-00035151 didn't agree with the fact they suddenly 3IJg0U7DBuI-00158-00035152-00035359 had to be ruled by another neighboring 3IJg0U7DBuI-00159-00035360-00035543 country and so the bougainville 3IJg0U7DBuI-00160-00035544-00035839 revolutionary army was formed in 1988 3IJg0U7DBuI-00161-00035840-00036046 with the aim of achieving independence 3IJg0U7DBuI-00162-00036047-00036287 this led to an internal conflict inside 3IJg0U7DBuI-00163-00036288-00036502 the island on one side was papua new 3IJg0U7DBuI-00164-00036503-00036711 guinea attempting to retain control with 3IJg0U7DBuI-00165-00036712-00036959 the support of australia and indonesia 3IJg0U7DBuI-00166-00036960-00037183 on the other was this revolutionary army 3IJg0U7DBuI-00167-00037184-00037302 with the support of the neighboring 3IJg0U7DBuI-00168-00037303-00037567 solomon islands and allegedly a fiji as 3IJg0U7DBuI-00169-00037568-00037790 well and there was a big reason for 3IJg0U7DBuI-00170-00037791-00037999 papua new guinea to not want to give the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00171-00038000-00038279 island up because under australian rule 3IJg0U7DBuI-00172-00038280-00038599 in 1930 vast gold and copper reserves 3IJg0U7DBuI-00173-00038600-00038799 were discovered and a copper mine was 3IJg0U7DBuI-00174-00038800-00039015 created under australian control with 3IJg0U7DBuI-00175-00039016-00039199 papuan independence the new government 3IJg0U7DBuI-00176-00039200-00039487 was given a 20 stake in the mine and at 3IJg0U7DBuI-00177-00039488-00039718 the time of this internal revolt it was 3IJg0U7DBuI-00178-00039719-00039943 the biggest copper mine in the world 3IJg0U7DBuI-00179-00039944-00040183 representing over 45 percent of papua 3IJg0U7DBuI-00180-00040184-00040430 new guinea's national exports so you can 3IJg0U7DBuI-00181-00040431-00040559 imagine why they wouldn't want 3IJg0U7DBuI-00182-00040560-00040727 bougainville independence they would 3IJg0U7DBuI-00183-00040728-00040943 lose almost half of their country's 3IJg0U7DBuI-00184-00040944-00041174 exports collapsing its economy and we 3IJg0U7DBuI-00185-00041175-00041374 can also understand australian support 3IJg0U7DBuI-00186-00041375-00041590 since the mine was established under an 3IJg0U7DBuI-00187-00041591-00041815 australian company it was this mine 3IJg0U7DBuI-00188-00041816-00042030 precisely that started the conflict with 3IJg0U7DBuI-00189-00042031-00042246 locals protesting the pollution it was 3IJg0U7DBuI-00190-00042247-00042455 creating the influx of workers from 3IJg0U7DBuI-00191-00042456-00042623 papua new guinea and the fact that the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00192-00042624-00042839 gigantic if not total part of the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00193-00042840-00043158 prophets left the island the bra entered 3IJg0U7DBuI-00194-00043159-00043374 a military conflict with papuan forces 3IJg0U7DBuI-00195-00043375-00043567 but they lost and almost all of their 3IJg0U7DBuI-00196-00043568-00043830 forces were decimated in total over 15 3IJg0U7DBuI-00197-00043831-00044039 000 people died because of it a peace 3IJg0U7DBuI-00198-00044040-00044215 treaty was then reached with the aid of 3IJg0U7DBuI-00199-00044216-00044430 new zealand in 1997 and they continued 3IJg0U7DBuI-00200-00044431-00044639 being ruled by papua new guinea however 3IJg0U7DBuI-00201-00044640-00044855 a key achievement was made the peace 3IJg0U7DBuI-00202-00044856-00045087 treaty established that within 20 years 3IJg0U7DBuI-00203-00045088-00045343 between 2015 and 2020 an independence 3IJg0U7DBuI-00204-00045344-00045583 referendum would have to be held and 3IJg0U7DBuI-00205-00045584-00045751 that's how we get to today with the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00206-00045752-00045990 referendum having been held in 2019 3IJg0U7DBuI-00207-00045991-00046135 independence winning with the majority 3IJg0U7DBuI-00208-00046136-00046335 of votes and the region now being on 3IJg0U7DBuI-00209-00046336-00046543 track to finally become its own 3IJg0U7DBuI-00210-00046544-00046799 independent country by 2027. it always 3IJg0U7DBuI-00211-00046800-00047062 amazes me how small series of events can 3IJg0U7DBuI-00212-00047063-00047246 have such big consequences the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00213-00047247-00047455 referendum was heavily participated out 3IJg0U7DBuI-00214-00047456-00047879 of 206 000 possible voters 181 000 3IJg0U7DBuI-00215-00047880-00048118 showed up to vote around 87 3IJg0U7DBuI-00216-00048119-00048302 participation rates people voting in 3IJg0U7DBuI-00217-00048303-00048599 2019 likely still remembered the initial 3IJg0U7DBuI-00218-00048600-00048846 struggles for independence and so rushed 3IJg0U7DBuI-00219-00048847-00049023 to the opportunity of finally 3IJg0U7DBuI-00220-00049024-00049215 establishing it the two options on the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00221-00049216-00049423 ballot were independents or greater 3IJg0U7DBuI-00222-00049424-00049711 autonomy the first got 98.31 of the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00223-00049712-00050015 votes and the second 1.69 3IJg0U7DBuI-00224-00050016-00050255 the referendum was non-binding and so an 3IJg0U7DBuI-00225-00050256-00050415 agreement with the papua new guinea 3IJg0U7DBuI-00226-00050416-00050639 government must be achieved papua new 3IJg0U7DBuI-00227-00050640-00050815 guinea's parliament will then have the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00228-00050816-00051046 ultimate say on whether to ratify 3IJg0U7DBuI-00229-00051047-00051223 boukenville's independence and it 3IJg0U7DBuI-00230-00051224-00051550 remains unclear if the 111 members will 3IJg0U7DBuI-00231-00051551-00051782 block it or allow it to pass although it 3IJg0U7DBuI-00232-00051783-00052014 seems they will enable it so what will 3IJg0U7DBuI-00233-00052015-00052214 this new country look like as we saw 3IJg0U7DBuI-00234-00052215-00052399 it's reasonably sized with a likely 3IJg0U7DBuI-00235-00052400-00052654 large economic exclusive zone at sea it 3IJg0U7DBuI-00236-00052655-00052894 has 300 000 people most of which are 3IJg0U7DBuI-00237-00052895-00053142 christian around 70 roman catholic due 3IJg0U7DBuI-00238-00053144-00053326 to the catholic missionaries during 3IJg0U7DBuI-00239-00053327-00053487 colonial times the majority of the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00240-00053488-00053694 people are of native descent as all 3IJg0U7DBuI-00241-00053695-00053887 others were evacuated during the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00242-00053888-00054079 internal conflicts that the island had 3IJg0U7DBuI-00243-00054079-00054254 during those conflicts the island was 3IJg0U7DBuI-00244-00054255-00054438 also blockaded by the papua new guinea 3IJg0U7DBuI-00245-00054439-00054654 army the resulting lack of resources 3IJg0U7DBuI-00246-00054655-00054871 forced the natives to develop large 3IJg0U7DBuI-00247-00054872-00055063 self-sustaining systems including 3IJg0U7DBuI-00248-00055064-00055335 hydropower fuel from coconut oil forest 3IJg0U7DBuI-00249-00055336-00055526 farms and others so achieving 3IJg0U7DBuI-00250-00055527-00055711 independence if they're able to maintain 3IJg0U7DBuI-00251-00055712-00055903 and grow this it might become one of the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00252-00055904-00056150 world's most self-sustainable nations 3IJg0U7DBuI-00253-00056151-00056366 the copper mining has since stopped but 3IJg0U7DBuI-00254-00056367-00056559 a reopening could be a solution to 3IJg0U7DBuI-00255-00056560-00056750 provide financing for the new country 3IJg0U7DBuI-00256-00056751-00056942 because while official stats about 3IJg0U7DBuI-00257-00056944-00057150 bougainville's economy are not available 3IJg0U7DBuI-00258-00057151-00057342 the papua new guinea national research 3IJg0U7DBuI-00259-00057344-00057559 institute estimates that the region has 3IJg0U7DBuI-00260-00057560-00057854 a per capita gdp of about 1100 3IJg0U7DBuI-00261-00057855-00058038 which isn't that low and would put their 3IJg0U7DBuI-00262-00058039-00058350 gdp at around 330 million however they 3IJg0U7DBuI-00263-00058351-00058535 make sure to point out that this value 3IJg0U7DBuI-00264-00058536-00058799 relies heavily on money from the central 3IJg0U7DBuI-00265-00058800-00059023 papuan government may be biased because 3IJg0U7DBuI-00266-00059024-00059199 they probably didn't want to lose the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00267-00059200-00059359 territory but it's likely that the new 3IJg0U7DBuI-00268-00059360-00059526 country will initially struggle 3IJg0U7DBuI-00269-00059527-00059687 economically without the financial 3IJg0U7DBuI-00270-00059688-00059894 support of papua new guinea unless they 3IJg0U7DBuI-00271-00059895-00060087 can quickly develop their internal 3IJg0U7DBuI-00272-00060088-00060294 economy or secure investments from 3IJg0U7DBuI-00273-00060295-00060454 foreign partners although this 3IJg0U7DBuI-00274-00060455-00060654 investment might come at the cost of 3IJg0U7DBuI-00275-00060655-00060871 foreign influence as australia new 3IJg0U7DBuI-00276-00060872-00061079 zealand china and the united states 3IJg0U7DBuI-00277-00061079-00061287 attempt to diplomatically influence the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00278-00061288-00061503 new nation and add it to their sphere of 3IJg0U7DBuI-00279-00061504-00061694 influence there is also the risk of 3IJg0U7DBuI-00280-00061695-00061919 internal breakup up to this point locals 3IJg0U7DBuI-00281-00061920-00062142 were united in achieving independence 3IJg0U7DBuI-00282-00062144-00062311 from papua new guinea but apparently the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00283-00062312-00062494 islands are a very ethically and 3IJg0U7DBuI-00284-00062495-00062679 linguistically diverse region which 3IJg0U7DBuI-00285-00062679-00062871 might lead to internal fractures on the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00286-00062872-00063054 other hand achieving independence might 3IJg0U7DBuI-00287-00063055-00063294 set off a wave of self-determination in 3IJg0U7DBuI-00288-00063295-00063535 many of the small oceanic and pacific 3IJg0U7DBuI-00289-00063536-00063694 islands which are still under the 3IJg0U7DBuI-00290-00063695-00063911 control of foreign powers either local 3IJg0U7DBuI-00291-00063912-00064111 neighboring ones or even dating back to 3IJg0U7DBuI-00292-00064112-00064415 european colonialism and u.s imperialism 3IJg0U7DBuI-00293-00064416-00064630 so that is how the world might gain a 3IJg0U7DBuI-00294-00064632-00064863 new country by 2027 bougainville 3IJg0U7DBuI-00295-00064864-00065038 understanding the history of the island 3IJg0U7DBuI-00296-00065039-00065247 and surrounding areas why it was not 3IJg0U7DBuI-00297-00065248-00065447 independent and how it has been ruled by 3IJg0U7DBuI-00298-00065448-00065638 many foreign powers for hundreds of 3IJg0U7DBuI-00299-00065639-00065847 years finally achieving what it long 3IJg0U7DBuI-00300-00065848-00066079 fought for independence thanks so much 3IJg0U7DBuI-00301-00066080-00066263 for watching this video subscribe if you 3IJg0U7DBuI-00302-00066264-00066423 want and i will see you next time for 3IJg0U7DBuI-00303-00066424-00066804 more general knowledge 3L0hDzFKnt4-00000-00000082-00000380 russification Russian rusev Acacio rusev 3L0hDzFKnt4-00001-00000381-00000611 Akatsuki ax or Russian ization as a form 3L0hDzFKnt4-00002-00000612-00000829 of cultural assimilation process during 3L0hDzFKnt4-00003-00000830-00000983 which non Russian communities 3L0hDzFKnt4-00004-00000984-00001160 voluntarily are not give up their 3L0hDzFKnt4-00005-00001161-00001328 culture and language in favor of the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00006-00001329-00001636 Russian one in a historical sense the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00007-00001637-00001805 term refers to both official and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00008-00001805-00002023 unofficial policies of Imperial Russia 3L0hDzFKnt4-00009-00002025-00002218 and the Soviet Union with respect to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00010-00002219-00002368 their national constituents into 3L0hDzFKnt4-00011-00002369-00002584 national minorities in Russia aimed at 3L0hDzFKnt4-00012-00002585-00002873 Russian domination the major areas of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00013-00002874-00003100 Russification are politics and culture 3L0hDzFKnt4-00014-00003101-00003383 in politics an element of Russification 3L0hDzFKnt4-00015-00003384-00003545 as assigning Russian nationals to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00016-00003546-00003728 leading the administrative positions in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00017-00003729-00003995 national institutions in culture 3L0hDzFKnt4-00018-00003996-00004202 Russification primarily amounts to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00019-00004203-00004379 domination of the Russian language in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00020-00004380-00004577 official business and strong influence 3L0hDzFKnt4-00021-00004578-00004738 of the Russian language on national 3L0hDzFKnt4-00022-00004739-00005009 idioms the shifts in demographics in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00023-00005010-00005197 favor of the ethnic Russian population 3L0hDzFKnt4-00024-00005198-00005402 are sometimes considered as a form of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00025-00005403-00005747 Russification as well analytically it is 3L0hDzFKnt4-00026-00005748-00005951 helpful to distinguish Russification as 3L0hDzFKnt4-00027-00005952-00006188 a process of changing one's ethnic self 3L0hDzFKnt4-00028-00006189-00006395 label or identity from a non Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00029-00006396-00006581 ethnonym to Russian from Russian ization 3L0hDzFKnt4-00030-00006581-00006731 the spread of the Russian language 3L0hDzFKnt4-00031-00006731-00006964 culture and people into non Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00032-00006965-00007181 cultures and regions distinct also from 3L0hDzFKnt4-00033-00007181-00007376 Soviet ization or the imposition of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00034-00007377-00007580 institutional forms established by the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00035-00007581-00007771 Communist Party of the Soviet Union 3L0hDzFKnt4-00036-00007772-00007931 throughout the territory ruled by that 3L0hDzFKnt4-00037-00007931-00008145 party in this sense although 3L0hDzFKnt4-00038-00008147-00008366 Russification is usually conflated 3L0hDzFKnt4-00039-00008367-00008596 across Russification Russian ization and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00040-00008597-00008831 Russian led Soviet ization each can be 3L0hDzFKnt4-00041-00008832-00009106 considered a distinct process Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00042-00009107-00009353 ization and Soviet ization for example 3L0hDzFKnt4-00043-00009354-00009488 did not automatically lead to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00044-00009489-00009703 Russification change in language or 3L0hDzFKnt4-00045-00009704-00009926 self-identity of non Russian people's to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00046-00009927-00010217 being Russian thus despite long exposure 3L0hDzFKnt4-00047-00010218-00010412 to the Russian language and culture as 3L0hDzFKnt4-00048-00010413-00010634 well as to Soviet ization at the end of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00049-00010635-00010828 the Soviet era non Russians were on the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00050-00010829-00010994 verge of becoming a majority of the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00051-00010995-00011512 population in the Soviet Union 3L0hDzFKnt4-00052-00011513-00011958 topic history 3L0hDzFKnt4-00053-00011959-00012203 an early case of Russification took 3L0hDzFKnt4-00054-00012204-00012405 place in the sixteenth century in the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00055-00012406-00012599 conquered Khanate of kazan medieval 3L0hDzFKnt4-00056-00012600-00012795 tatar state which occupied the territory 3L0hDzFKnt4-00057-00012796-00013061 of former volga bulgaria and other tatar 3L0hDzFKnt4-00058-00013062-00013353 areas the main elements of this process 3L0hDzFKnt4-00059-00013354-00013580 were Christianisation and implementation 3L0hDzFKnt4-00060-00013581-00013736 of the russian language as the sole 3L0hDzFKnt4-00061-00013737-00013911 administrative language after the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00062-00013912-00014102 Russian defeat in the Crimean War in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00063-00014103-00014430 1856 and the Polish rebellion of 1863 3L0hDzFKnt4-00064-00014431-00014658 tsar alexander ii increased 3L0hDzFKnt4-00065-00014659-00014832 Russification to reduce the threat of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00066-00014833-00015119 future rebellions Russia was populated 3L0hDzFKnt4-00067-00015120-00015353 by many minority groups and forcing them 3L0hDzFKnt4-00068-00015354-00015525 to accept the Russian culture was an 3L0hDzFKnt4-00069-00015526-00015722 attempt to prevent self-determination as 3L0hDzFKnt4-00070-00015723-00016008 tendencies and separatism in the 19th 3L0hDzFKnt4-00071-00016009-00016236 century Russian settlers on traditional 3L0hDzFKnt4-00072-00016237-00016436 Kyrgyz land drove many of the Kyrgyz 3L0hDzFKnt4-00073-00016437-00016864 over the border to China 3L0hDzFKnt4-00074-00016865-00017405 topic Eurail ik people's 3L0hDzFKnt4-00075-00017406-00017664 indigenous to large parts of western and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00076-00017665-00017825 central Russia are the uralic peoples 3L0hDzFKnt4-00077-00017826-00018114 such as the veps ian's mordvins marason 3L0hDzFKnt4-00078-00018115-00018208 permeance 3L0hDzFKnt4-00079-00018209-00018434 historically the Russification of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00080-00018435-00018639 euralia peoples begins already with the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00081-00018640-00018833 original eastward expansion of the East 3L0hDzFKnt4-00082-00018834-00019103 Slavs written records of the oldest 3L0hDzFKnt4-00083-00019104-00019341 period are scarce but toponymic evidence 3L0hDzFKnt4-00084-00019342-00019514 indicates that this expansion was 3L0hDzFKnt4-00085-00019515-00019700 accomplished at the expense of various 3L0hDzFKnt4-00086-00019701-00019905 volga finnic peoples who were gradually 3L0hDzFKnt4-00087-00019906-00020094 assimilated by Russians beginning with 3L0hDzFKnt4-00088-00020095-00020280 the mariya and the Maroma in the early 3L0hDzFKnt4-00089-00020281-00020528 second millennium CE II the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00090-00020529-00020736 Russification of the Komi began in the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00091-00020737-00020969 13th to 14th centuries but did not 3L0hDzFKnt4-00092-00020970-00021180 penetrate into the komi heartlands until 3L0hDzFKnt4-00093-00021181-00021302 the 18th century 3L0hDzFKnt4-00094-00021303-00021590 Komi russian bilingualism has become the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00095-00021591-00021780 norm over the 19th and has led to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00096-00021781-00021972 increasing Russian influence in the Komi 3L0hDzFKnt4-00097-00021973-00022272 language the enforced russification of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00098-00022273-00022436 Russia's remaining indigenous minorities 3L0hDzFKnt4-00099-00022437-00022697 has intensified particularly during the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00100-00022698-00022937 Soviet era and continues unabated in the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00101-00022938-00023205 21st century especially in connection to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00102-00023206-00023420 urbanization and the dropping population 3L0hDzFKnt4-00103-00023421-00023642 replacement rates particularly low among 3L0hDzFKnt4-00104-00023643-00023900 the more Western Eurail ik peoples as a 3L0hDzFKnt4-00105-00023901-00024114 result several of Russia's indigenous 3L0hDzFKnt4-00106-00024115-00024284 languages and cultures are currently 3L0hDzFKnt4-00107-00024285-00024569 considered endangered eg between the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00108-00024570-00024908 1989 and 2002 censuses the assimilation 3L0hDzFKnt4-00109-00024909-00025092 numbers of the mordvins have totaled 3L0hDzFKnt4-00110-00025093-00025361 over 100,000 a major loss for a people 3L0hDzFKnt4-00111-00025362-00025574 totaling less than 1 million in number 3L0hDzFKnt4-00112-00025575-00025862 according to Vasily Petrov director of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00113-00025863-00026081 the Mari National Theatre in yoshkar-ola 3L0hDzFKnt4-00114-00026082-00026358 mari el a policy of Russification in the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00115-00026358-00026618 Republic that began in 2001 has resulted 3L0hDzFKnt4-00116-00026619-00026814 in the Mari language no longer being 3L0hDzFKnt4-00117-00026814-00027060 taught in schools and villages by the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00118-00027061-00027285 2010 Russian census there were two 3L0hDzFKnt4-00119-00027286-00027477 hundred four thousand native speakers of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00120-00027477-00027714 mari a drop from two hundred fifty four 3L0hDzFKnt4-00121-00027714-00028231 thousand in 2002 3L0hDzFKnt4-00122-00028232-00028739 topic Poland in Lithuania 3L0hDzFKnt4-00123-00028741-00028995 in 19th century the Russian Empire 3L0hDzFKnt4-00124-00028995-00029217 strove to replace the Ukrainian polish 3L0hDzFKnt4-00125-00029218-00029477 Lithuanian and Belarusian languages and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00126-00029479-00029697 dialects by Russian in those areas which 3L0hDzFKnt4-00127-00029698-00029892 were indexed by the Russian Empire after 3L0hDzFKnt4-00128-00029893-00030282 the partitions of Poland 1772 to 1795 3L0hDzFKnt4-00129-00030283-00030654 and the Congress of Vienna 1815 Imperial 3L0hDzFKnt4-00130-00030655-00030855 Russia faced a crucial critical cultural 3L0hDzFKnt4-00131-00030856-00031257 situation by 1815 large sections of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00132-00031258-00031458 Russian society had come under foreign 3L0hDzFKnt4-00133-00031458-00031668 influence as a result of the Napoleonic 3L0hDzFKnt4-00134-00031669-00031923 Wars and appeared open to change as a 3L0hDzFKnt4-00135-00031924-00032157 consequence of absorbing so much Polish 3L0hDzFKnt4-00136-00032158-00032550 territory by 1815 no less than 64% of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00137-00032551-00032757 the nobility of the Romanov realm was of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00138-00032758-00032922 Polish descent and since they're more 3L0hDzFKnt4-00139-00032923-00033126 literate poles than Russians more people 3L0hDzFKnt4-00140-00033127-00033285 within it could read and write polish 3L0hDzFKnt4-00141-00033286-00033561 than Russian the third largest city will 3L0hDzFKnt4-00142-00033562-00033786 know was entirely polish in character 3L0hDzFKnt4-00143-00033787-00033969 and its university was the best in the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00144-00033970-00034293 empire Russification in Congress Poland 3L0hDzFKnt4-00145-00034294-00034485 intensified after the November uprising 3L0hDzFKnt4-00146-00034486-00034800 of 1831 and in particular after the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00147-00034801-00035265 January uprising of 1863 in 1864 the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00148-00035266-00035466 Polish and Belarusian languages were 3L0hDzFKnt4-00149-00035467-00035712 banned in public places in the 1880s 3L0hDzFKnt4-00150-00035713-00035928 polish was banned in schools on school 3L0hDzFKnt4-00151-00035929-00036117 grounds and in the offices of Congress 3L0hDzFKnt4-00152-00036118-00036357 Poland research and teaching of the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00153-00036358-00036576 Polish language of Polish history or of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00154-00036577-00036849 Catholicism were forbidden illiteracy 3L0hDzFKnt4-00155-00036850-00037049 rose as poles refused to learn Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00156-00037050-00037266 students were beaten for resisting 3L0hDzFKnt4-00157-00037267-00037466 recitation a Polish underground 3L0hDzFKnt4-00158-00037467-00037716 Education Network formed including the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00159-00037717-00037880 famous flying University 3L0hDzFKnt4-00160-00037881-00038175 according to Russian estimates by 1901 3L0hDzFKnt4-00161-00038176-00038382 one-third of the inhabitants in the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00162-00038383-00038544 Congress Poland was involved in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00163-00038545-00038766 clandestine education based on Polish 3L0hDzFKnt4-00164-00038767-00039021 literature starting in the 1840s Russia 3L0hDzFKnt4-00165-00039022-00039234 considered introducing Cyrillic script 3L0hDzFKnt4-00166-00039235-00039408 for spelling the polish language with 3L0hDzFKnt4-00167-00039409-00039576 the first schoolbooks printed in the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00168-00039577-00039936 1860s these attempts failed a similar 3L0hDzFKnt4-00169-00039937-00040188 development took place in Lithuania its 3L0hDzFKnt4-00170-00040189-00040416 governor-general mikhail Moravia off in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00171-00040417-00040806 office 1863 to 1865 prohibited the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00172-00040807-00040992 public use of spoken Polish and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00173-00040993-00041184 Lithuanian and closed Polish and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00174-00041185-00041385 Lithuanian schools teachers from other 3L0hDzFKnt4-00175-00041386-00041565 parts of Russia who did not speak these 3L0hDzFKnt4-00176-00041566-00041798 languages were moved in to teach pupils 3L0hDzFKnt4-00177-00041799-00042084 morovia also banned the use of Latin and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00178-00042085-00042126 gothic 3L0hDzFKnt4-00179-00042127-00042393 scripts in publishing he was reported as 3L0hDzFKnt4-00180-00042394-00042630 saying what the Russian bayonet didn't 3L0hDzFKnt4-00181-00042631-00042960 accomplish the Russian school well CTO 3L0hDzFKnt4-00182-00042961-00043197 nay Donnell stick dot lat Ruska 3L0hDzFKnt4-00183-00043198-00043587 Scola this ban lifted only in 1904 was 3L0hDzFKnt4-00184-00043588-00043767 disregarded by the knees I the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00185-00043768-00043965 Lithuanian book smugglers who brought 3L0hDzFKnt4-00186-00043966-00044181 Lithuanian publications printed in the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00187-00044182-00044403 Latin alphabet the historic orthography 3L0hDzFKnt4-00188-00044404-00044562 of the Lithuanian language from 3L0hDzFKnt4-00189-00044563-00044784 Lithuania minor part of East Prussia and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00190-00044785-00044934 from the United States into the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00191-00044935-00045147 Lithuanian speaking areas of Imperial 3L0hDzFKnt4-00192-00045148-00045393 Russia the McNish I came to symbolize 3L0hDzFKnt4-00193-00045394-00045615 the resistance of Lithuanian 's against 3L0hDzFKnt4-00194-00045616-00045794 Russification 3L0hDzFKnt4-00195-00045795-00046076 the Russification campaign also promoted 3L0hDzFKnt4-00196-00046077-00046238 the Russian Orthodox faith over 3L0hDzFKnt4-00197-00046239-00046490 Catholicism the measures used included 3L0hDzFKnt4-00198-00046491-00046682 closing down Catholic monasteries 3L0hDzFKnt4-00199-00046683-00046853 officially banning the building of new 3L0hDzFKnt4-00200-00046854-00047063 churches and giving many of the old ones 3L0hDzFKnt4-00201-00047064-00047276 to the Russian Orthodox Church banning 3L0hDzFKnt4-00202-00047277-00047483 Catholic schools and establishing state 3L0hDzFKnt4-00203-00047484-00047684 schools which taught only the Orthodox 3L0hDzFKnt4-00204-00047685-00047915 religion requiring Catholic priests to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00205-00047916-00048110 preach only officially approved sermons 3L0hDzFKnt4-00206-00048111-00048299 requiring that Catholics who married 3L0hDzFKnt4-00207-00048300-00048497 members of the Orthodox Church convert 3L0hDzFKnt4-00208-00048498-00048698 requiring Catholic Nobles to pay an 3L0hDzFKnt4-00209-00048699-00048878 additional tax in the amount of ten 3L0hDzFKnt4-00210-00048879-00049061 percent of their profits limiting the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00211-00049062-00049244 amount of land a Catholic peasant could 3L0hDzFKnt4-00212-00049245-00049418 own and switching from the Gregorian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00213-00049419-00049652 calendar used by Catholics to the Julian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00214-00049653-00049802 one used by members of the Orthodox 3L0hDzFKnt4-00215-00049803-00050105 Church most of the Orthodox Church 3L0hDzFKnt4-00216-00050106-00050360 property in the 19th century Congress 3L0hDzFKnt4-00217-00050361-00050549 Poland was acquired at the expense of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00218-00050550-00050765 the Catholic Church of both rites roman 3L0hDzFKnt4-00219-00050766-00050942 and greek catholic after the uprising 3L0hDzFKnt4-00220-00050943-00051155 many manors and great chunks of land 3L0hDzFKnt4-00221-00051156-00051371 were confiscated from Nobles of Polish 3L0hDzFKnt4-00222-00051372-00051554 and Lithuanian descent who were accused 3L0hDzFKnt4-00223-00051554-00051761 of helping the uprising these properties 3L0hDzFKnt4-00224-00051762-00051941 were later given or sold to Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00225-00051941-00052216 nobles villages where supporters of the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00226-00052217-00052405 uprising lived were repopulated by 3L0hDzFKnt4-00227-00052407-00052729 ethnic Russians Vilnius University where 3L0hDzFKnt4-00228-00052730-00052891 the language of instruction had been 3L0hDzFKnt4-00229-00052892-00053087 polish rather than Russian closed in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00230-00053088-00053447 1832 lithuanian x' and poles were banned 3L0hDzFKnt4-00231-00053448-00053672 from holding any public jobs including 3L0hDzFKnt4-00232-00053673-00053891 professional positions such as teachers 3L0hDzFKnt4-00233-00053891-00054104 and doctors in lithuania this forced 3L0hDzFKnt4-00234-00054104-00054299 educated lithuanian to move to other 3L0hDzFKnt4-00235-00054300-00054548 parts of the russian empire the old 3L0hDzFKnt4-00236-00054549-00054776 legal code was dismantled and a new one 3L0hDzFKnt4-00237-00054777-00054959 based on the Russian code and written in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00238-00054960-00055160 the Russian language was enacted Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00239-00055161-00055340 became the only administrative and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00240-00055341-00055616 juridical language in the area most of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00241-00055616-00055796 these actions ended at the beginning of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00242-00055797-00056174 the russo-japanese war of 1904-1905 but 3L0hDzFKnt4-00243-00056175-00056324 others took longer to be reversed 3L0hDzFKnt4-00244-00056325-00056576 Vilnius University reopened only after 3L0hDzFKnt4-00245-00056577-00056771 Russia had lost control of the city in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00246-00056772-00057166 1919 3L0hDzFKnt4-00247-00057166-00057787 topic Ukraine Russian and Soviet 3L0hDzFKnt4-00248-00057788-00058005 authorities conducted policies of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00249-00058007-00058288 Russification of Ukraine from 1709 to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00250-00058289-00058564 1991 interrupted by the coroner's ezio 3L0hDzFKnt4-00251-00058565-00058750 policy in the 1920s 3L0hDzFKnt4-00252-00058751-00059014 since then the Ukrainian government has 3L0hDzFKnt4-00253-00059015-00059209 implemented policies in order to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00254-00059210-00059379 decrease the use of Russian in favor 3L0hDzFKnt4-00255-00059380-00059592 Ukrainian a process labeled Ukraine 3L0hDzFKnt4-00256-00059594-00059923 ization a number of Ukrainian activists 3L0hDzFKnt4-00257-00059924-00060139 committed suicide in protest against 3L0hDzFKnt4-00258-00060140-00060364 Russification among whom are Alexa her 3L0hDzFKnt4-00259-00060365-00060851 NIC and vassal mocking 3L0hDzFKnt4-00260-00060852-00061363 topic Grand Duchy of Finland 3L0hDzFKnt4-00261-00061364-00061696 the Russification of Finland 1899 to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00262-00061697-00062179 1905 1908 to 1917 Sordo code a times of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00263-00062179-00062379 oppression in Finnish was a governmental 3L0hDzFKnt4-00264-00062380-00062572 policy of the Russian Empire aimed at 3L0hDzFKnt4-00265-00062573-00063116 the termination of Finland's autonomy 3L0hDzFKnt4-00266-00063117-00063651 topic Bessarabia Moldova 3L0hDzFKnt4-00267-00063652-00063886 Bessarabia was annexed by the russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00268-00063887-00064297 empire in 1812 in 1816 Bessarabia became 3L0hDzFKnt4-00269-00064298-00064554 an autonomous state but only until 1828 3L0hDzFKnt4-00270-00064555-00064905 in 1829 the use of the romanian language 3L0hDzFKnt4-00271-00064907-00065184 was forbidden in the administration in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00272-00065185-00065446 1833 the use of the romanian language 3L0hDzFKnt4-00273-00065447-00065800 was forbidden in churches in 1842 3L0hDzFKnt4-00274-00065801-00066043 teaching in romanian was forbidden in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00275-00066044-00066250 secondary schools it was forbidden in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00276-00066251-00066610 elementary schools in 1860 the Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00277-00066611-00066787 authorities forced the migration of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00278-00066788-00066982 Moldovans to other provinces of the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00279-00066983-00067201 Russian Empire especially in kuben 3L0hDzFKnt4-00280-00067202-00067429 Kazakhstan and Siberia while foreign 3L0hDzFKnt4-00281-00067430-00067633 ethnic groups especially Russians and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00282-00067634-00067818 Ukrainians called in the 19th century 3L0hDzFKnt4-00283-00067819-00068107 little Russians were encouraged to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00284-00068108-00068377 settle there according to the 1817 3L0hDzFKnt4-00285-00068378-00068689 census Bessarabia was populated by 86% 3L0hDzFKnt4-00286-00068690-00069136 Moldovans 6.5% Ukrainians 1.5 percent 3L0hDzFKnt4-00287-00069137-00069415 Russians lip avance and 6% other ethnic 3L0hDzFKnt4-00288-00069416-00069832 groups 80 years later in 1897 the ethnic 3L0hDzFKnt4-00289-00069833-00070069 structure was very different only 56 3L0hDzFKnt4-00290-00070070-00070431 percent Moldovans but 11.7% Ukrainians 3L0hDzFKnt4-00291-00070432-00070870 18.9% Russians and 13.4% other ethnic 3L0hDzFKnt4-00292-00070871-00071263 groups during 80 years between 1817 and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00293-00071264-00071566 1897 the share of Moldovan population 3L0hDzFKnt4-00294-00071567-00071887 dropped by 30% after the Soviet 3L0hDzFKnt4-00295-00071888-00072166 occupation of Bessarabia in 1940 the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00296-00072167-00072400 Romanian population of Bessarabia was 3L0hDzFKnt4-00297-00072401-00072589 persecuted by Soviet authorities 3L0hDzFKnt4-00298-00072590-00072778 especially in the years following the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00299-00072779-00073000 annexation based mostly on social 3L0hDzFKnt4-00300-00073001-00073210 educational and political grounds 3L0hDzFKnt4-00301-00073211-00073426 because of this Russification laws were 3L0hDzFKnt4-00302-00073427-00073645 imposed again on the Romanian population 3L0hDzFKnt4-00303-00073646-00073918 the Moldovan language introduced during 3L0hDzFKnt4-00304-00073919-00074095 the interwar period by the soviet 3L0hDzFKnt4-00305-00074096-00074269 authorities first in the Moldavia 3L0hDzFKnt4-00306-00074270-00074512 autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00307-00074513-00074728 after 1940 taught in the Moldavians 3L0hDzFKnt4-00308-00074729-00074956 Soviet Socialist Republic was actually 3L0hDzFKnt4-00309-00074957-00075142 the Romanian language but written with a 3L0hDzFKnt4-00310-00075143-00075328 version of the Cyrillic script derived 3L0hDzFKnt4-00311-00075329-00075453 from the Russian alphabet 3L0hDzFKnt4-00312-00075454-00075706 proponents of Cyrillic orthography 3L0hDzFKnt4-00313-00075707-00075895 argued that the Romanian language was 3L0hDzFKnt4-00314-00075896-00076066 historically written with the Cyrillic 3L0hDzFKnt4-00315-00076067-00076264 script albeit a different version of it 3L0hDzFKnt4-00316-00076265-00076477 see Moldovan alphabet and Romanian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00317-00076478-00076672 Cyrillic alphabet for a discussion of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00318-00076673-00076849 this controversy the cultural and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00319-00076850-00077007 linguistic effects of Rus effect 3L0hDzFKnt4-00320-00077008-00077223 and manifest themselves in persistent 3L0hDzFKnt4-00321-00077224-00077503 identity questions during the breakup of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00322-00077504-00077734 the Soviet Union this led to separation 3L0hDzFKnt4-00323-00077735-00077953 of a large and industrialized portion of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00324-00077954-00078129 the country becoming the de facto 3L0hDzFKnt4-00325-00078130-00078342 independent state of Transnistria whose 3L0hDzFKnt4-00326-00078343-00078809 main official language is Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00327-00078810-00079380 topic under the Soviet Union 3L0hDzFKnt4-00328-00079381-00079722 after the 1917 revolution authorities in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00329-00079723-00079976 the USSR decided to abolish the use of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00330-00079977-00080184 the Arabic alphabet in native languages 3L0hDzFKnt4-00331-00080185-00080417 in Soviet controlled Central Asia in the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00332-00080418-00080567 Caucasus and in the Volga region 3L0hDzFKnt4-00333-00080568-00080867 including Tatarstan this detached the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00334-00080868-00081084 local Muslim populations from exposure 3L0hDzFKnt4-00335-00081085-00081275 to the language and writing system of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00336-00081276-00081453 the Quran the new alphabet for these 3L0hDzFKnt4-00337-00081454-00081623 languages was based on the Latin 3L0hDzFKnt4-00338-00081624-00081822 alphabet and was also inspired by the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00339-00081823-00082091 Turkish alphabet however by the late 3L0hDzFKnt4-00340-00082092-00082515 1930s the policy had changed in 1939 3L0hDzFKnt4-00341-00082516-00082785 1940 the Soviets decided that a number 3L0hDzFKnt4-00342-00082786-00082976 of these languages including Tatar 3L0hDzFKnt4-00343-00082977-00083282 Kazakh Jews Beck Turkmen Tajik Kyrgyz 3L0hDzFKnt4-00344-00083283-00083523 azhari and Bashkir would henceforth use 3L0hDzFKnt4-00345-00083524-00083804 variations of the Cyrillic script it was 3L0hDzFKnt4-00346-00083805-00083993 claimed that the switch was made by the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00347-00083994-00084502 demands of the working class 3L0hDzFKnt4-00348-00084503-00084846 topic early 1920s through mid 1930s 3L0hDzFKnt4-00349-00084847-00085288 indigenous Asian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00350-00085289-00085526 Stalin's Marxism and the National 3L0hDzFKnt4-00351-00085527-00085785 question 1913 provided the basic 3L0hDzFKnt4-00352-00085786-00085994 framework for nationality policy in the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00353-00085995-00086253 Soviet Union the early years of said 3L0hDzFKnt4-00354-00086254-00086513 policy from the early 1920s to the mid 3L0hDzFKnt4-00355-00086514-00086748 1930s were guided by the policy of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00356-00086749-00087063 coroner's Asia indigenous a ssin during 3L0hDzFKnt4-00357-00087064-00087255 which the new Soviet regime sought to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00358-00087256-00087396 reverse the long-term effects of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00359-00087397-00087567 Russification on the non Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00360-00087568-00087855 populations as the regime was trying to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00361-00087856-00087996 establish its power and legitimacy 3L0hDzFKnt4-00362-00087997-00088250 throughout the former Russian Empire it 3L0hDzFKnt4-00363-00088251-00088413 went about constructing regional 3L0hDzFKnt4-00364-00088414-00088607 administrative units recruiting non 3L0hDzFKnt4-00365-00088608-00088806 Russians into leadership positions and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00366-00088807-00088998 promoting non Russian languages in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00367-00088999-00089213 government administration the courts the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00368-00089214-00089496 schools and the mass media the slogan 3L0hDzFKnt4-00369-00089497-00089697 then established was that local cultures 3L0hDzFKnt4-00370-00089698-00089961 should be socialist in content but 3L0hDzFKnt4-00371-00089962-00090249 national in form that is these cultures 3L0hDzFKnt4-00372-00090250-00090413 should be transformed to conform with 3L0hDzFKnt4-00373-00090414-00090642 the Communist Party's socialist project 3L0hDzFKnt4-00374-00090643-00090849 for the Soviet society as a whole but 3L0hDzFKnt4-00375-00090850-00091017 have active participation and leadership 3L0hDzFKnt4-00376-00091018-00091242 by the indigenous nationalities and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00377-00091243-00091493 operate primarily in the local languages 3L0hDzFKnt4-00378-00091494-00091779 early nationalities policy shared with 3L0hDzFKnt4-00379-00091780-00091986 later policy the object of assuring 3L0hDzFKnt4-00380-00091987-00092196 control by the Communist Party over all 3L0hDzFKnt4-00381-00092197-00092454 aspects of Soviet political economic and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00382-00092455-00092772 social life the early Soviet policy of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00383-00092773-00092979 promoting what one scholar has described 3L0hDzFKnt4-00384-00092980-00093365 as ethnic particularism and another as 3L0hDzFKnt4-00385-00093366-00093684 institutionalized multi nationality had 3L0hDzFKnt4-00386-00093685-00093909 a double goal on the one hand it had 3L0hDzFKnt4-00387-00093910-00094019 been an effort to counter Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00388-00094020-00094250 chauvinism by assuring a place for the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00389-00094251-00094451 non Russian languages and cultures in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00390-00094452-00094634 the newly formed Soviet Union on the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00391-00094635-00094913 other hand it was a means to prevent the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00392-00094914-00095088 formation of alternative ethnically 3L0hDzFKnt4-00393-00095089-00095263 based political movements including 3L0hDzFKnt4-00394-00095264-00095604 pan-islamism and pan-turkism one way of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00395-00095605-00095793 accomplishing this was to promote what 3L0hDzFKnt4-00396-00095794-00095988 some regard as artificial distinctions 3L0hDzFKnt4-00397-00095989-00096176 between ethnic groups and languages 3L0hDzFKnt4-00398-00096177-00096368 rather than promoting amalgamation of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00399-00096369-00096540 these groups and a common set of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00400-00096541-00096741 languages based on Turkish or another 3L0hDzFKnt4-00401-00096742-00096912 regional language the Soviet 3L0hDzFKnt4-00402-00096913-00097113 nationalities policy from its early 3L0hDzFKnt4-00403-00097114-00097256 years sought to counter these two 3L0hDzFKnt4-00404-00097257-00097443 tendencies by assuring a modicum of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00405-00097444-00097643 cultural autonomy to non Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00406-00097644-00097868 nationalities within a federal system or 3L0hDzFKnt4-00407-00097869-00097988 structure of government though 3L0hDzFKnt4-00408-00097989-00098160 maintaining that the ruling Communist 3L0hDzFKnt4-00409-00098161-00098399 Party was monolithic not federal 3L0hDzFKnt4-00410-00098400-00098663 a process of national territorial 3L0hDzFKnt4-00411-00098664-00098918 delimitation rue Nationale no 3L0hDzFKnt4-00412-00098919-00099116 territorial no Rasmus Ave me was 3L0hDzFKnt4-00413-00099117-00099284 undertaken to define the official 3L0hDzFKnt4-00414-00099285-00099437 territories of the non Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00415-00099438-00099713 populations within the Soviet Union the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00416-00099714-00099917 federal system conferred highest status 3L0hDzFKnt4-00417-00099918-00100136 to the titular nationalities of Union 3L0hDzFKnt4-00418-00100137-00100355 Republic's and lower status to titular 3L0hDzFKnt4-00419-00100356-00100571 nationalities of autonomous republics 3L0hDzFKnt4-00420-00100572-00100787 autonomous provinces and autonomous 3L0hDzFKnt4-00421-00100788-00101141 okrugs in all some 50 nationalities had 3L0hDzFKnt4-00422-00101142-00101354 a republic province or okrug of which 3L0hDzFKnt4-00423-00101355-00101549 they held nominal control in the federal 3L0hDzFKnt4-00424-00101550-00101816 system federalism and the provision of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00425-00101817-00102014 native language education ultimately 3L0hDzFKnt4-00426-00102015-00102245 left as a legacy a large non Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00427-00102246-00102404 public that was educated in the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00428-00102405-00102578 languages of their ethnic groups and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00429-00102579-00102791 that identified a particular homeland on 3L0hDzFKnt4-00430-00102792-00103245 the territory of the Soviet Union 3L0hDzFKnt4-00431-00103246-00103590 topic late 1930s in wartime Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00432-00103591-00104009 comes to the floor 3L0hDzFKnt4-00433-00104010-00104291 by the late 1930s however there was a 3L0hDzFKnt4-00434-00104292-00104594 notable policy shift purges in some of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00435-00104595-00104825 the national regions such as Ukraine had 3L0hDzFKnt4-00436-00104826-00105008 occurred already in the early 1930s 3L0hDzFKnt4-00437-00105009-00105306 before the turnabout in Ukraine in 1933 3L0hDzFKnt4-00438-00105307-00105522 a purge of beli Ibrahim ov and his 3L0hDzFKnt4-00439-00105523-00105815 leadership in the Crimean assr in 1929 3L0hDzFKnt4-00440-00105816-00106158 for national deviation led to Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00441-00106158-00106376 ization of government education and the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00442-00106377-00106550 media and to the creation of a special 3L0hDzFKnt4-00443-00106551-00106775 alphabet for Crimean Tatar to replace 3L0hDzFKnt4-00444-00106776-00107036 the Latin alphabet of the two dangers 3L0hDzFKnt4-00445-00107038-00107244 that Joseph Stalin had identified in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00446-00107245-00107354 1923 3L0hDzFKnt4-00447-00107355-00107564 now bourgeois nationalism local 3L0hDzFKnt4-00448-00107565-00107745 nationalism was said to be a greater 3L0hDzFKnt4-00449-00107746-00107919 threat than great Russian chauvinism 3L0hDzFKnt4-00450-00107920-00108324 great power chauvinism in 1937 fazool ik 3L0hDzFKnt4-00451-00108325-00108507 o j-- i of an AK malay khromov were 3L0hDzFKnt4-00452-00108508-00108740 removed as leaders of the Uzbek SSR and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00453-00108741-00109028 in 1938 during the third great Moscow 3L0hDzFKnt4-00454-00109029-00109250 show trial convicted and subsequently 3L0hDzFKnt4-00455-00109251-00109431 put to death for alleged anti Soviet 3L0hDzFKnt4-00456-00109432-00109773 nationalist activities after Stalin a 3L0hDzFKnt4-00457-00109774-00109961 russified Georgian became undisputed 3L0hDzFKnt4-00458-00109963-00110162 leader of the Soviet Union the Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00459-00110163-00110525 language gained greater emphasis in 1938 3L0hDzFKnt4-00460-00110526-00110765 Russian became a required subject of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00461-00110766-00110994 study in every Soviet school including 3L0hDzFKnt4-00462-00110995-00111179 those in which a non Russian language 3L0hDzFKnt4-00463-00111180-00111335 was the principal medium of instruction 3L0hDzFKnt4-00464-00111336-00111635 for other subjects eg mathematics 3L0hDzFKnt4-00465-00111636-00112044 science and social studies in 1939 non 3L0hDzFKnt4-00466-00112045-00112211 Russian languages that had been given 3L0hDzFKnt4-00467-00112213-00112463 Latin based scripts in the late 1920s 3L0hDzFKnt4-00468-00112464-00112623 were given new scripts based on the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00469-00112624-00112923 Cyrillic script one likely rationale for 3L0hDzFKnt4-00470-00112924-00113082 these decisions was the sense of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00471-00113083-00113261 impending war and that Russian was the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00472-00113263-00113556 language of command in the Red Army the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00473-00113557-00113777 foreign during World War two Joseph 3L0hDzFKnt4-00474-00113778-00113970 Stalin deported to Central Asia and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00475-00113971-00114233 Siberia several entire nationalities for 3L0hDzFKnt4-00476-00114234-00114410 their suspected collaboration with the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00477-00114411-00114648 German invaders Volga Germans Crimean 3L0hDzFKnt4-00478-00114649-00114983 Tatars Chechens in goosh balkars comics 3L0hDzFKnt4-00479-00114984-00115272 and others shortly after the war he 3L0hDzFKnt4-00480-00115273-00115473 deported many Ukrainians bolts and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00481-00115474-00115707 Estonians to Siberia as well after the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00482-00115708-00115877 war the leading role of the Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00483-00115878-00116070 people in the Soviet family of Nations 3L0hDzFKnt4-00484-00116071-00116307 and nationalities was promoted by Stalin 3L0hDzFKnt4-00485-00116308-00116574 and his successors this shift was most 3L0hDzFKnt4-00486-00116575-00116799 clearly underscored by communist party 3L0hDzFKnt4-00487-00116800-00117008 general secretary Stalin's Victory Day 3L0hDzFKnt4-00488-00117009-00117369 toast to the Russian people in May 1945 3L0hDzFKnt4-00489-00117370-00117554 I would like to raise a toast to the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00490-00117555-00117744 health of our Soviet people and before 3L0hDzFKnt4-00491-00117745-00118052 all the Russian people I drink before 3L0hDzFKnt4-00492-00118053-00118233 all to the health of the Russian people 3L0hDzFKnt4-00493-00118233-00118407 because in this war they earned general 3L0hDzFKnt4-00494-00118408-00118583 recognition as the leading force of the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00495-00118584-00118763 Soviet Union among all the nationalities 3L0hDzFKnt4-00496-00118764-00119075 of our country naming the Russian nation 3L0hDzFKnt4-00497-00119076-00119300 the Primus inter pares was a total 3L0hDzFKnt4-00498-00119301-00119532 turnabout from Stalin's declaration 20 3L0hDzFKnt4-00499-00119533-00119721 years earlier heralding the coroners 3L0hDzFKnt4-00500-00119722-00119954 ezio policy that the first immediate 3L0hDzFKnt4-00501-00119955-00120191 task of our party is vigorously to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00502-00120192-00120404 combat the survivals of great Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00503-00120405-00120653 chauvinism although the official 3L0hDzFKnt4-00504-00120654-00120843 literature on nationalities and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00505-00120844-00121061 languages in subsequent years continued 3L0hDzFKnt4-00506-00121063-00121277 to speak of their being 130 equal 3L0hDzFKnt4-00507-00121278-00121524 languages in the USSR in practice a 3L0hDzFKnt4-00508-00121525-00121715 hierarchy was endorsed in which some 3L0hDzFKnt4-00509-00121716-00121913 nationalities and languages were given 3L0hDzFKnt4-00510-00121914-00122078 special roles or viewed as having 3L0hDzFKnt4-00511-00122079-00122550 different long-term futures 3L0hDzFKnt4-00512-00122551-00123163 topic late 1950s to 1980s 3L0hDzFKnt4-00513-00123164-00123619 topic 1958-59 education reform parents 3L0hDzFKnt4-00514-00123620-00124079 choose language of instruction 3L0hDzFKnt4-00515-00124080-00124356 an analysis of textbook publishing found 3L0hDzFKnt4-00516-00124357-00124548 that education was offered for at least 3L0hDzFKnt4-00517-00124549-00124695 one year and for at least the first 3L0hDzFKnt4-00518-00124696-00125097 class grade in 67 languages between 1934 3L0hDzFKnt4-00519-00125098-00125210 and 1980 3L0hDzFKnt4-00520-00125211-00125465 however the educational reforms 3L0hDzFKnt4-00521-00125466-00125636 undertaken after Nikita Khrushchev 3L0hDzFKnt4-00522-00125637-00125885 became first Secretary of the Communist 3L0hDzFKnt4-00523-00125886-00126144 Party in the late 1950s began a process 3L0hDzFKnt4-00524-00126145-00126359 of replacing non Russian schools with 3L0hDzFKnt4-00525-00126360-00126536 Russian ones for the nationalities that 3L0hDzFKnt4-00526-00126537-00126737 had lower status in the federal system 3L0hDzFKnt4-00527-00126738-00126953 or whose populations were smaller or 3L0hDzFKnt4-00528-00126954-00127076 displayed widespread bilingualism 3L0hDzFKnt4-00529-00127077-00127412 already nominally this process was 3L0hDzFKnt4-00530-00127413-00127637 guided by the principle of voluntary 3L0hDzFKnt4-00531-00127638-00127916 parental choice but other factors also 3L0hDzFKnt4-00532-00127917-00128135 came into play including the size and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00533-00128136-00128339 formal political status of the group in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00534-00128340-00128528 the Soviet Federal hierarchy in the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00535-00128529-00128726 prevailing level of bilingualism among 3L0hDzFKnt4-00536-00128727-00129074 parents by the early 1970s schools in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00537-00129075-00129273 which non Russian languages served as 3L0hDzFKnt4-00538-00129274-00129409 the principal medium of instruction 3L0hDzFKnt4-00539-00129410-00129710 operated in 45 languages while seven 3L0hDzFKnt4-00540-00129711-00129897 more indigenous languages were taught as 3L0hDzFKnt4-00541-00129898-00130095 subjects of study for at least one class 3L0hDzFKnt4-00542-00130096-00130454 year by 1980 instruction was offered in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00543-00130455-00130709 35 non Russian languages of the peoples 3L0hDzFKnt4-00544-00130710-00130952 of the USSR just over half the number in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00545-00130953-00131307 the early 1930s moreover in most of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00546-00131308-00131460 these languages schooling was not 3L0hDzFKnt4-00547-00131461-00131612 offered for the complete 10 year 3L0hDzFKnt4-00548-00131613-00131931 curriculum for example within the rsfsr 3L0hDzFKnt4-00549-00131932-00132302 in 1958 59 full ten-year schooling in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00550-00132303-00132471 the native language was offered in only 3L0hDzFKnt4-00551-00132472-00132686 three languages Russian Tatar and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00552-00132687-00132962 Bashkir and some nationalities had 3L0hDzFKnt4-00553-00132963-00133163 minimal or no native language schooling 3L0hDzFKnt4-00554-00133164-00133454 by 1960 to 1963 3L0hDzFKnt4-00555-00133455-00133640 among non Russian nationalities that 3L0hDzFKnt4-00556-00133641-00133973 were indigenous to the rsfsr were as 27 3L0hDzFKnt4-00557-00133974-00134201 percent of children in classes I IV 3L0hDzFKnt4-00558-00134202-00134406 primary school studied in Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00559-00134407-00134627 language schools fifty-three percent of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00560-00134628-00134832 those in classes v-eight in complete 3L0hDzFKnt4-00561-00134833-00135038 secondary school studied in Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00562-00135039-00135294 language schools and 66 percent of those 3L0hDzFKnt4-00563-00135295-00135503 in classes xx studied in Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00564-00135504-00135747 language schools although many non 3L0hDzFKnt4-00565-00135748-00135953 Russian languages were still offered as 3L0hDzFKnt4-00566-00135954-00136139 a subject of study at a higher class 3L0hDzFKnt4-00567-00136140-00136349 level in some cases through complete 3L0hDzFKnt4-00568-00136350-00136569 general secondary school the tenth class 3L0hDzFKnt4-00569-00136570-00136739 the pattern of using the Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00570-00136740-00136881 language as the main medium of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00571-00136882-00137027 instruction accelerated after 3L0hDzFKnt4-00572-00137028-00137240 Khrushchev's parental choice program got 3L0hDzFKnt4-00573-00137241-00137350 underway 3L0hDzFKnt4-00574-00137351-00137575 pressure to convert the main medium of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00575-00137576-00137754 instruction to Russian was evidently 3L0hDzFKnt4-00576-00137755-00138078 higher in urban areas for example in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00577-00138079-00138484 1961-62 reportedly only 6% of Tatar 3L0hDzFKnt4-00578-00138485-00138700 children living in urban areas attended 3L0hDzFKnt4-00579-00138701-00138877 schools in which Tatar was the main 3L0hDzFKnt4-00580-00138878-00139011 medium of instruction 3L0hDzFKnt4-00581-00139012-00139408 similarly in Dagestan in 1965 schools in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00582-00139409-00139578 which the indigenous language was the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00583-00139579-00139783 medium of instruction existed only in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00584-00139784-00140068 rural areas the pattern was probably 3L0hDzFKnt4-00585-00140069-00140296 similar if less extreme in most of the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00586-00140297-00140509 non Russian Union republics although in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00587-00140510-00140707 Belarus and Ukraine schooling in urban 3L0hDzFKnt4-00588-00140708-00141116 areas was highly Russian eyes 3L0hDzFKnt4-00589-00141117-00141407 topic doctrine catches up with practice 3L0hDzFKnt4-00590-00141408-00141925 rapprochement and fusion of Nations 3L0hDzFKnt4-00591-00141926-00142147 the promotion of federalism and of non 3L0hDzFKnt4-00592-00142148-00142327 Russian languages had always been a 3L0hDzFKnt4-00593-00142328-00142519 strategic decision aimed at expanding 3L0hDzFKnt4-00594-00142520-00142723 and maintaining rule by the Communist 3L0hDzFKnt4-00595-00142724-00142975 Party on the theoretical plane 3L0hDzFKnt4-00596-00142976-00143182 however the Communist Party's official 3L0hDzFKnt4-00597-00143183-00143395 doctrine was that eventually nationality 3L0hDzFKnt4-00598-00143396-00143590 differences and nationalities as such 3L0hDzFKnt4-00599-00143591-00143841 would disappear an official party 3L0hDzFKnt4-00600-00143842-00144034 doctrine as it was reformulated in the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00601-00144035-00144228 third program of the Communist Party of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00602-00144229-00144436 the Soviet Union introduced by Nikita 3L0hDzFKnt4-00603-00144437-00144708 Khrushchev at the 22nd Party Congress in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00604-00144709-00144966 1961 although the program stated that 3L0hDzFKnt4-00605-00144967-00145116 ethnic distinctions would eventually 3L0hDzFKnt4-00606-00145117-00145345 disappear and a single common language 3L0hDzFKnt4-00607-00145346-00145554 would be adopted by all nationalities in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00608-00145555-00145747 the Soviet Union the obliteration of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00609-00145748-00145987 national distinctions and especially 3L0hDzFKnt4-00610-00145988-00146253 language distinctions is a considerably 3L0hDzFKnt4-00611-00146254-00146446 more drawn-out process than the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00612-00146447-00146740 obliteration of class distinctions at 3L0hDzFKnt4-00613-00146741-00147013 that time however Soviet nations and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00614-00147014-00147196 nationalities were undergoing a dual 3L0hDzFKnt4-00615-00147197-00147385 process of further flowering of their 3L0hDzFKnt4-00616-00147386-00147583 cultures and of rapprochement or drawing 3L0hDzFKnt4-00617-00147584-00147784 together split any split knee into a 3L0hDzFKnt4-00618-00147785-00148039 stronger Union in his report on the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00619-00148040-00148171 program to the Congress 3L0hDzFKnt4-00620-00148172-00148351 Khrushchev used even stronger language 3L0hDzFKnt4-00621-00148352-00148513 that the process of further 3L0hDzFKnt4-00622-00148514-00148726 rapprochement pleasin II and greater 3L0hDzFKnt4-00623-00148727-00148933 unity of Nations would eventually lead 3L0hDzFKnt4-00624-00148934-00149176 to emerging or fusion Shalini Shalini of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00625-00149177-00149407 nationalities Khrushchev's formula of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00626-00149408-00149608 rep proche Monde fusing was moderated 3L0hDzFKnt4-00627-00149609-00149671 slightly 3L0hDzFKnt4-00628-00149672-00149878 however when leonid brezhnev replaced 3L0hDzFKnt4-00629-00149879-00150090 Khrushchev as general secretary of the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00630-00150091-00150388 communist party in 1964 a post he held 3L0hDzFKnt4-00631-00150389-00150721 until his death in 1982 Brezhnev 3L0hDzFKnt4-00632-00150722-00150898 asserted that reproach Minh would lead 3L0hDzFKnt4-00633-00150899-00151162 ultimately to the complete unity of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00634-00151163-00151474 nationalities unity was an ambiguous 3L0hDzFKnt4-00635-00151475-00151681 term because it could imply either the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00636-00151682-00151807 maintenance of separate national 3L0hDzFKnt4-00637-00151808-00152062 identities but a higher stage of mutual 3L0hDzFKnt4-00638-00152063-00152221 attraction or similarity between 3L0hDzFKnt4-00639-00152222-00152449 nationalities or the total disappearance 3L0hDzFKnt4-00640-00152450-00152713 of ethnic differences in the political 3L0hDzFKnt4-00641-00152714-00152983 context of the time repro meant unity 3L0hDzFKnt4-00642-00152984-00153193 was regarded as a softening of the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00643-00153194-00153390 pressure towards Russification that 3L0hDzFKnt4-00644-00153391-00153540 Khrushchev had promoted with his 3L0hDzFKnt4-00645-00153541-00153891 endorsement of celini the 24th Party 3L0hDzFKnt4-00646-00153892-00154186 Congress in 1971 however launched the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00647-00154187-00154479 idea that a new Soviet people was 3L0hDzFKnt4-00648-00154480-00154726 forming on the territory of the USSR a 3L0hDzFKnt4-00649-00154727-00154924 community for which the common language 3L0hDzFKnt4-00650-00154925-00155214 the language of the Soviet people was 3L0hDzFKnt4-00651-00155215-00155296 the Russian land 3L0hDzFKnt4-00652-00155297-00155454 which consistent with the role that 3L0hDzFKnt4-00653-00155455-00155616 Russian was playing for the fraternal 3L0hDzFKnt4-00654-00155617-00155785 Nations and nationalities in the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00655-00155786-00156078 territory already this new community was 3L0hDzFKnt4-00656-00156079-00156291 labeled a people Narada Narada not a 3L0hDzFKnt4-00657-00156292-00156493 nation Messiah not SIA but in that 3L0hDzFKnt4-00658-00156494-00156678 context the Russian word Narada 3L0hDzFKnt4-00659-00156679-00156970 people implied an ethnic community not 3L0hDzFKnt4-00660-00156971-00157290 just a Civic or political community thus 3L0hDzFKnt4-00661-00157291-00157483 until the end of the Soviet era a 3L0hDzFKnt4-00662-00157484-00157669 doctrinal rationalization had been 3L0hDzFKnt4-00663-00157670-00157827 provided for some of the practical 3L0hDzFKnt4-00664-00157828-00158047 policy steps that were taken in areas of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00665-00158048-00158338 Education in the media first of all the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00666-00158339-00158579 transfer of many national schools 3L0hDzFKnt4-00667-00158580-00158848 schools based on local languages to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00668-00158849-00158985 Russian as a medium of instruction 3L0hDzFKnt4-00669-00158986-00159219 accelerated under Khrushchev in the late 3L0hDzFKnt4-00670-00159220-00159481 1950s and continued into the 1980s 3L0hDzFKnt4-00671-00159482-00159697 second the new doctrine was used to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00672-00159698-00159891 justify the special place of the Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00673-00159892-00160060 language is the language of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00674-00160061-00160396 internationality communication as ik mez 3L0hDzFKnt4-00675-00160397-00160699 'national no go up Sania in the USSR use 3L0hDzFKnt4-00676-00160700-00161035 of the term internationality mez nation 3L0hDzFKnt4-00677-00161036-00161152 all know rather than the more 3L0hDzFKnt4-00678-00161153-00161458 conventional international mesda nerado 3L0hDzFKnt4-00679-00161459-00161683 focused on the special internal role of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00680-00161684-00161872 russian language rather than on its role 3L0hDzFKnt4-00681-00161873-00162081 as a language of international discourse 3L0hDzFKnt4-00682-00162082-00162339 that russian was the most widely spoken 3L0hDzFKnt4-00683-00162340-00162511 language and that russians were the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00684-00162512-00162682 majority of the population of the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00685-00162683-00162927 country were also cited in justification 3L0hDzFKnt4-00686-00162928-00163096 of the special place of Russian language 3L0hDzFKnt4-00687-00163097-00163444 in government education in the media at 3L0hDzFKnt4-00688-00163445-00163825 the 27th CPSU Party Congress in 1986 3L0hDzFKnt4-00689-00163826-00164068 presided over by Mikhail Gorbachev the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00690-00164069-00164269 fourth party program reiterated the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00691-00164270-00164526 formulas of the previous program 3L0hDzFKnt4-00692-00164527-00164746 characteristic of the national relations 3L0hDzFKnt4-00693-00164747-00164926 in our country are both the continued 3L0hDzFKnt4-00694-00164927-00165064 flourishing of the nations and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00695-00165065-00165235 nationalities and the fact that they are 3L0hDzFKnt4-00696-00165236-00165441 steadily and voluntarily drawing closer 3L0hDzFKnt4-00697-00165442-00165649 together on the basis of equality and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00698-00165650-00165943 fraternal cooperation neither artificial 3L0hDzFKnt4-00699-00165944-00166093 prodding nor holding back of the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00700-00166094-00166266 objective trends of development as 3L0hDzFKnt4-00701-00166267-00166498 admissible here in the long term 3L0hDzFKnt4-00702-00166499-00166711 historical perspective this development 3L0hDzFKnt4-00703-00166712-00166864 will lead to complete unity of the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00704-00166865-00167034 nations 3L0hDzFKnt4-00705-00167035-00167244 the equal right of all citizens of the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00706-00167245-00167484 USSR to use their native languages and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00707-00167485-00167658 the free development of these languages 3L0hDzFKnt4-00708-00167659-00167922 will be ensured in the future as well at 3L0hDzFKnt4-00709-00167923-00168087 the same time learning the Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00710-00168088-00168261 language which has been voluntarily 3L0hDzFKnt4-00711-00168262-00168449 accepted by the Soviet people as a 3L0hDzFKnt4-00712-00168450-00168606 medium of communication between 3L0hDzFKnt4-00713-00168607-00168815 different nationalities besides the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00714-00168816-00169016 language of one's nationality broadens 3L0hDzFKnt4-00715-00169017-00169187 one's access to the achievements of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00716-00169188-00169398 Science and Technology and of Soviet and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00717-00169399-00169754 world culture 3L0hDzFKnt4-00718-00169755-00169988 topic linguistic and ethnic 3L0hDzFKnt4-00719-00169989-00170374 Russification 3L0hDzFKnt4-00720-00170375-00170611 topic some factors favoring 3L0hDzFKnt4-00721-00170612-00170969 Russification 3L0hDzFKnt4-00722-00170970-00171179 progress in the spread of Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00723-00171180-00171353 language as a second language and the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00724-00171354-00171551 gradual displacement of other languages 3L0hDzFKnt4-00725-00171552-00171845 was monitored in Soviet censuses the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00726-00171846-00172345 Soviet censuses of 1926 1937 1939 and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00727-00172346-00172676 1959 had included questions on native 3L0hDzFKnt4-00728-00172677-00172966 language rod no jessica's wellas 3L0hDzFKnt4-00729-00172967-00173465 nationality the 1970 1979 and 1989 3L0hDzFKnt4-00730-00173466-00173693 censuses added to these questions one on 3L0hDzFKnt4-00731-00173694-00173918 other language of the peoples of the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00732-00173919-00174331 USSR that an individual cut use fluently 3L0hDzFKnt4-00733-00174332-00174614 swoboda no vladat it is speculated that 3L0hDzFKnt4-00734-00174615-00174827 the explicit goal of the new question on 3L0hDzFKnt4-00735-00174828-00175100 second language was to monitor the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00736-00175101-00175259 spread of Russian as the language of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00737-00175260-00175478 internationality communication each of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00738-00175479-00175667 the official homelands within the Soviet 3L0hDzFKnt4-00739-00175668-00175868 Union was regarded as the only homeland 3L0hDzFKnt4-00740-00175869-00176042 of the titular nationality and its 3L0hDzFKnt4-00741-00176043-00176219 language while the Russian language was 3L0hDzFKnt4-00742-00176220-00176345 regarded as the language for 3L0hDzFKnt4-00743-00176346-00176519 inter-ethnic communication for the whole 3L0hDzFKnt4-00744-00176520-00176623 Soviet Union 3L0hDzFKnt4-00745-00176624-00176858 therefore for most of the Soviet era 3L0hDzFKnt4-00746-00176859-00177065 especially after the coroners Assia 3L0hDzFKnt4-00747-00177066-00177284 indigenous Asian policy ended in the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00748-00177285-00177533 1930s schools in which non Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00749-00177534-00177707 Soviet languages would be taught were 3L0hDzFKnt4-00750-00177708-00177872 not generally available outside the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00751-00177873-00177997 respective ethnically based 3L0hDzFKnt4-00752-00177998-00178157 administrative units of these 3L0hDzFKnt4-00753-00178158-00178436 ethnicities some exceptions appeared to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00754-00178437-00178667 involve cases of historic rivalries or 3L0hDzFKnt4-00755-00178668-00178838 patterns of assimilation between 3L0hDzFKnt4-00756-00178839-00179024 neighboring non Russian groups such as 3L0hDzFKnt4-00757-00179025-00179270 between Tatars and Bashkirs in Russia or 3L0hDzFKnt4-00758-00179271-00179486 among major Central Asian nationalities 3L0hDzFKnt4-00759-00179487-00179846 for example even in the 1970s schooling 3L0hDzFKnt4-00760-00179847-00180041 was offered in at least seven languages 3L0hDzFKnt4-00761-00180042-00180308 in Uzbekistan Russian Jews Beck Tajik 3L0hDzFKnt4-00762-00180309-00180619 Kazakh Turkmen Kyrgyz and caracal pack 3L0hDzFKnt4-00763-00180620-00180905 while formerly all languages were equal 3L0hDzFKnt4-00764-00180906-00181103 in almost all Soviet republics the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00765-00181104-00181315 Russian local bilingualism was 3L0hDzFKnt4-00766-00181316-00181589 asymmetric the titular nation learned 3L0hDzFKnt4-00767-00181590-00181769 Russian whereas immigrant Russians 3L0hDzFKnt4-00768-00181770-00181910 generally did not learn the local 3L0hDzFKnt4-00769-00181911-00182240 language in addition many non Russians 3L0hDzFKnt4-00770-00182241-00182396 who lived outside their respective 3L0hDzFKnt4-00771-00182397-00182573 administrative units tended to become 3L0hDzFKnt4-00772-00182574-00182792 russified linguistically that is they 3L0hDzFKnt4-00773-00182793-00182966 not only learned Russian as a second 3L0hDzFKnt4-00774-00182967-00183143 language but they also adopted it as 3L0hDzFKnt4-00775-00183144-00183296 their home language or mother tongue 3L0hDzFKnt4-00776-00183297-00183461 although some still retained their sense 3L0hDzFKnt4-00777-00183462-00183701 of ethnic identity or origins even after 3L0hDzFKnt4-00778-00183702-00183839 shifting their native language to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00779-00183840-00184058 Russian this includes both the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00780-00184059-00184253 traditional communities eg 3L0hDzFKnt4-00781-00184254-00184522 Lithuanian Zin the northwestern Belarus 3L0hDzFKnt4-00782-00184523-00184699 see Eastern Vilnius region or the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00783-00184700-00184939 Kaliningrad Oblast see Lithuania minor 3L0hDzFKnt4-00784-00184940-00185122 and the communities that appeared during 3L0hDzFKnt4-00785-00185123-00185340 Soviet times such as Ukrainian or 3L0hDzFKnt4-00786-00185341-00185565 Belarusian workers in Kazakhstan or 3L0hDzFKnt4-00787-00185566-00185785 Latvia whose children attended primarily 3L0hDzFKnt4-00788-00185786-00185964 the Russian language schools and thus 3L0hDzFKnt4-00789-00185965-00186148 the further generations are primarily 3L0hDzFKnt4-00790-00186149-00186283 speaking Russian as their native 3L0hDzFKnt4-00791-00186284-00186550 language for example 57 percent of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00792-00186551-00186784 Estonia's Ukrainians 70 percent of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00793-00186785-00187057 Estonia's Belarussians and 37 percent of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00794-00187058-00187254 Estonia's Latvians claimed russian as 3L0hDzFKnt4-00795-00187255-00187444 the native language in the last soviet 3L0hDzFKnt4-00796-00187445-00187791 census of 1989 russian language as well 3L0hDzFKnt4-00797-00187792-00188002 replaced yiddish and other languages as 3L0hDzFKnt4-00798-00188003-00188158 the main language of many jewish 3L0hDzFKnt4-00799-00188159-00188388 communities inside the soviet union 3L0hDzFKnt4-00800-00188389-00188628 another consequence of the mixing of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00801-00188629-00188778 nationalities and the spread of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00802-00188779-00188947 bilingualism and linguistic 3L0hDzFKnt4-00803-00188948-00189148 Russification was the growth of ethnic 3L0hDzFKnt4-00804-00189149-00189349 intermarriage and a process of ethnic 3L0hDzFKnt4-00805-00189350-00189574 Russification coming to call oneself 3L0hDzFKnt4-00806-00189575-00189840 russian by nationality or ethnicity not 3L0hDzFKnt4-00807-00189841-00190014 just speaking Russian as a second 3L0hDzFKnt4-00808-00190015-00190183 language or using it as a primary 3L0hDzFKnt4-00809-00190184-00190432 language in the last decades of the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00810-00190433-00190665 Soviet Union ethnic Russification or 3L0hDzFKnt4-00811-00190666-00190839 ethnic assimilation was moving very 3L0hDzFKnt4-00812-00190840-00191086 rapidly for a few nationalities such as 3L0hDzFKnt4-00813-00191087-00191344 the karelians and mordvins however 3L0hDzFKnt4-00814-00191345-00191557 whether children born in mixed families 3L0hDzFKnt4-00815-00191558-00191719 where one of the parents was Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00816-00191720-00191889 were likely to be raised as Russians 3L0hDzFKnt4-00817-00191890-00192039 depending on the context 3L0hDzFKnt4-00818-00192040-00192319 for example the majority of children and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00819-00192320-00192508 families where one parent was Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00820-00192509-00192678 and the other Ukrainian living in North 3L0hDzFKnt4-00821-00192679-00192856 Kazakhstan chose Russian as their 3L0hDzFKnt4-00822-00192857-00193057 nationality on their internal passport 3L0hDzFKnt4-00823-00193058-00193360 at age 16 however children of mixed 3L0hDzFKnt4-00824-00193361-00193570 Russian and Estonian parents living in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00825-00193571-00193803 Tollan the capital city of Estonia or 3L0hDzFKnt4-00826-00193804-00194014 mixed Russian and Latvian parents living 3L0hDzFKnt4-00827-00194015-00194253 in Riga the capital of Latvia or mixed 3L0hDzFKnt4-00828-00194254-00194464 Russian and Lithuanian parents living in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00829-00194465-00194689 Vilnius the capital of Lithuania most 3L0hDzFKnt4-00830-00194690-00194851 often chose as their own nationality 3L0hDzFKnt4-00831-00194852-00195064 that of the titular nationality of their 3L0hDzFKnt4-00832-00195065-00195264 Republic not Russian more generally 3L0hDzFKnt4-00833-00195265-00195439 patterns of linguistic and ethnic 3L0hDzFKnt4-00834-00195440-00195685 assimilation Russification were complex 3L0hDzFKnt4-00835-00195686-00195864 and cannot be accounted for by any 3L0hDzFKnt4-00836-00195865-00196060 single factors such as educational 3L0hDzFKnt4-00837-00196061-00196306 policy also relevant were the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00838-00196307-00196489 traditional cultures and religions of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00839-00196490-00196675 the groups their residents in urban or 3L0hDzFKnt4-00840-00196676-00196876 rural areas their contact with an 3L0hDzFKnt4-00841-00196877-00197091 exposure to Russian language into ethnic 3L0hDzFKnt4-00842-00197092-00197602 Russians and other factors 3L0hDzFKnt4-00843-00197603-00198020 topic modern 3L0hDzFKnt4-00844-00198021-00198338 On June 19th 2018 the Russian Duma 3L0hDzFKnt4-00845-00198339-00198554 adopted a bill that made education in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00846-00198555-00198749 all languages but Russian optional 3L0hDzFKnt4-00847-00198750-00198959 overruling previous laws by ethnic 3L0hDzFKnt4-00848-00198960-00199166 autonomies and reducing instruction in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00849-00199167-00199376 minority languages to only two hours a 3L0hDzFKnt4-00850-00199377-00199637 week this bill has been connected by 3L0hDzFKnt4-00851-00199638-00199835 some commentators such as in foreign 3L0hDzFKnt4-00852-00199836-00200054 affairs to a policy of Russification 3L0hDzFKnt4-00853-00200055-00200285 when the bill was still being considered 3L0hDzFKnt4-00854-00200286-00200510 advocates for minorities warned that the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00855-00200511-00200690 bill could endanger their languages and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00856-00200691-00200963 traditional cultures the law came after 3L0hDzFKnt4-00857-00200964-00201227 a lawsuit in the summer of 2017 where a 3L0hDzFKnt4-00858-00201228-00201404 Russian mother claimed that her son had 3L0hDzFKnt4-00859-00201405-00201695 been materially harmed by learning the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00860-00201696-00201905 tatar language while in a speech putin 3L0hDzFKnt4-00861-00201906-00202049 argued that it was wrong to force 3L0hDzFKnt4-00862-00202050-00202232 someone to learn a langauge that is not 3L0hDzFKnt4-00863-00202233-00202553 their own the later language crackdown 3L0hDzFKnt4-00864-00202554-00202823 in which autonomous units were forced to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00865-00202824-00203045 stop mandatory hours of native languages 3L0hDzFKnt4-00866-00203046-00203270 was also seen as a move by Putin to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00867-00203271-00203575 build identity in Russian society 3L0hDzFKnt4-00868-00203576-00203840 protests and petitions against a bill by 3L0hDzFKnt4-00869-00203841-00204065 either civic society groups of public 3L0hDzFKnt4-00870-00204066-00204257 intellectuals or regional governments 3L0hDzFKnt4-00871-00204258-00204449 came from Tatarstan with attempts for 3L0hDzFKnt4-00872-00204450-00204656 demonstrations suppressed Chuvashia 3L0hDzFKnt4-00873-00204657-00204898 mari el North Ossetia kabardino-balkaria 3L0hDzFKnt4-00874-00204898-00205198 the karachays the coup mix the Avars 3L0hDzFKnt4-00875-00205200-00205363 Chechnya and Ingushetia 3L0hDzFKnt4-00876-00205364-00205679 although the hand-picked Duma 3L0hDzFKnt4-00877-00205680-00205886 representatives from the Caucasus did 3L0hDzFKnt4-00878-00205887-00206087 not oppose the bill it prompted a large 3L0hDzFKnt4-00879-00206088-00206269 outcry in the North Caucasus with 3L0hDzFKnt4-00880-00206271-00206446 representatives from the region being 3L0hDzFKnt4-00881-00206448-00206711 accused of cowardice the law was also 3L0hDzFKnt4-00882-00206712-00206915 seen as possibly destabilizing 3L0hDzFKnt4-00883-00206916-00207083 threatening ethnic relations and 3L0hDzFKnt4-00884-00207084-00207269 revitalizing the various North Caucasian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00885-00207269-00207578 nationalist movements the International 3L0hDzFKnt4-00886-00207579-00207785 Circassian organization called for the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00887-00207786-00207959 law to be rescinded before it came into 3L0hDzFKnt4-00888-00207960-00208214 effect twelve of Russia's ethnic 3L0hDzFKnt4-00889-00208215-00208400 autonomies including five in the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00890-00208401-00208598 Caucasus called for the legislation to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00891-00208598-00208805 be blocked in the North Caucasus the law 3L0hDzFKnt4-00892-00208806-00209027 came after a decade in which educational 3L0hDzFKnt4-00893-00209028-00209186 opportunities in the indigenous 3L0hDzFKnt4-00894-00209187-00209402 languages was by more than 50% 3L0hDzFKnt4-00895-00209403-00209582 due to budget reductions and federal 3L0hDzFKnt4-00896-00209583-00209711 efforts to decrease the role of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00897-00209712-00209978 languages other than Russian during this 3L0hDzFKnt4-00898-00209979-00210221 period numerous indigenous languages in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00899-00210221-00210413 the North Caucasus showed significant 3L0hDzFKnt4-00900-00210414-00210592 decreases in their numbers of speakers 3L0hDzFKnt4-00901-00210594-00210713 even though the numbers of the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00902-00210714-00210911 corresponding nationalities increased 3L0hDzFKnt4-00903-00210912-00211127 leading to fears of language replacement 3L0hDzFKnt4-00904-00211128-00211396 the numbers of Ossetian kumuk and a 3L0hDzFKnt4-00905-00211398-00211433 virus 3L0hDzFKnt4-00906-00211434-00211634 speakers dropped by forty three thousand 3L0hDzFKnt4-00907-00211635-00211844 sixty three thousand and eighty thousand 3L0hDzFKnt4-00908-00211846-00212169 respectively as of 2018 it has been 3L0hDzFKnt4-00909-00212169-00212351 reported that the North Caucasus is 3L0hDzFKnt4-00910-00212352-00212538 nearly devoid of schools that teach in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00911-00212539-00212702 mainly their native languages with the 3L0hDzFKnt4-00912-00212703-00212897 exception of one school in North Ossetia 3L0hDzFKnt4-00913-00212898-00213165 and a few in rural regions of Dagestan 3L0hDzFKnt4-00914-00213166-00213396 this is true even in largely mono-ethnic 3L0hDzFKnt4-00915-00213396-00213674 Chechnya and Ingushetia Chechen and in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00916-00213675-00213872 goosh are still used as languages of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00917-00213873-00214046 everyday communication to a greater 3L0hDzFKnt4-00918-00214047-00214172 degree than their North Caucasian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00919-00214173-00214433 neighbors but sociolinguistics argue 3L0hDzFKnt4-00920-00214434-00214604 that the current situation will lead to 3L0hDzFKnt4-00921-00214605-00214784 their degradation relative to Russian as 3L0hDzFKnt4-00922-00214785-00215194 well 3L0hDzFKnt4-00923-00215194-00215719 topic see also 3L0hDzFKnt4-00924-00215721-00216154 diversification Russian colonialism 3L0hDzFKnt4-00925-00216155-00216515 orthodoxy autocracy and nationality 3L0hDzFKnt4-00926-00216516-00216742 education in the Soviet Union 3L0hDzFKnt4-00927-00216744-00217212 Slava file Koren is at Xia national 3L0hDzFKnt4-00928-00217213-00217456 delimitation in the Soviet Union 3L0hDzFKnt4-00929-00217457-00217759 population transfer in the Soviet Union 3L0hDzFKnt4-00930-00217760-00218125 Promethea ISM citizenship of Russia 3L0hDzFKnt4-00931-00218126-00218594 Russia philia Soviet nation Soviet 3L0hDzFKnt4-00932-00218596-00219150 ization Americanization 3L0hDzFKnt4-00933-00219151-00219713 topic references 3L0hDzFKnt4-00934-00219714-00220235 topic further reading 3L0hDzFKnt4-00935-00220236-00220910 topic external links Russification in 3L0hDzFKnt4-00936-00220911-00221225 Lithuania the Civic identity of Russa 3L0hDzFKnt4-00937-00221226-00221387 fiying officials in the Empire's 3L0hDzFKnt4-00938-00221388-00221675 northwestern region after 1863 by 3L0hDzFKnt4-00939-00221676-00221998 mikhail dolby law PDF Permanent Mission 3L0hDzFKnt4-00940-00222000-00222188 of Caucasian Institute for democracy 3L0hDzFKnt4-00941-00222189-00222455 foundation opened in Tskhinvali regnum 3L0hDzFKnt4-00942-00222456-00222692 news agency Russia the 9th of December 3L0hDzFKnt4-00943-00222692-00223091 2005 Tatarstan rejects dominant role of 3L0hDzFKnt4-00944-00223092-00223312 Russians Kommersant the 6th of March 3L0hDzFKnt4-00945-00223313-00223654 2006 forgetting how to speak Russian 3L0hDzFKnt4-00946-00223655-00223766 fast-forward 3L0hDzFKnt4-00947-00223767-00224167 ozzie January 7 2014 3LVlkbW5kfg-00000-00000143-00000311 what's up what's up what's up black 3LVlkbW5kfg-00001-00000312-00000591 people what's up 3LVlkbW5kfg-00002-00000592-00000919 what is up black people how y'all doing 3LVlkbW5kfg-00003-00000919-00001079 i want to let all you black women know 3LVlkbW5kfg-00004-00001080-00001247 you need to uh get a white man in your 3LVlkbW5kfg-00005-00001248-00001550 life 3LVlkbW5kfg-00006-00001551-00001734 yes i'm getting some black 3LVlkbW5kfg-00007-00001735-00002063 tonight this 3LVlkbW5kfg-00008-00002064-00002231 because there are a lot of perks and 3LVlkbW5kfg-00009-00002232-00002455 advantages to being a white man 3LVlkbW5kfg-00010-00002456-00002767 we will co-sign for some 3LVlkbW5kfg-00011-00002768-00002926 i look a little bit sexier right the 3LVlkbW5kfg-00012-00002927-00003071 now don't now you're like oh my 3LVlkbW5kfg-00013-00003072-00003215 goodness close your eyes 3LVlkbW5kfg-00014-00003215-00003431 he looks like a light-skinned ll cool j 3LVlkbW5kfg-00015-00003432-00003575 look at him 3LVlkbW5kfg-00016-00003576-00003799 girl look at him plus we'll eat the 3LVlkbW5kfg-00017-00003960-00004191 the right way i ain't saying black men 3LVlkbW5kfg-00018-00004192-00004303 don't do it 3LVlkbW5kfg-00019-00004304-00004559 i'm not saying black men don't do it but 3LVlkbW5kfg-00020-00004560-00004615 we got 3LVlkbW5kfg-00021-00004616-00004775 what's that saying y'all got once you go 3LVlkbW5kfg-00022-00004776-00004927 black you never go back 3LVlkbW5kfg-00023-00004928-00005238 man that saying once you go white 3LVlkbW5kfg-00024-00005239-00005431 you know you've been licked right 3LVlkbW5kfg-00025-00005432-00005775 yes yes i'm getting me 3LVlkbW5kfg-00026-00005776-00005799 some 3LVlkbW5kfg-00027-00005800-00006510 black in this today 3LVlkbW5kfg-00028-00006511-00006678 because i heard that i love coming to 3LVlkbW5kfg-00029-00006679-00006846 new york because i know you got you know 3LVlkbW5kfg-00030-00006847-00007006 like a lot of jamaican people here and i 3LVlkbW5kfg-00031-00007008-00007151 heard that like jamaican man 3LVlkbW5kfg-00032-00007152-00007319 no man i don't eat that mine that's 3LVlkbW5kfg-00033-00007320-00007463 nasty mom 3LVlkbW5kfg-00034-00007464-00007663 what this tastes like jerk 3LVlkbW5kfg-00035-00007664-00007863 chicken you better get you some 3LVlkbW5kfg-00036-00007864-00008070 you better get you son this 3LVlkbW5kfg-00037-00008072-00008239 is good 3LVlkbW5kfg-00038-00008240-00008678 this is good 3LVlkbW5kfg-00039-00008679-00009183 the i will eat some 3LVlkbW5kfg-00040-00009184-00009535 i got a phd in eating 3LVlkbW5kfg-00041-00009536-00009710 some of y'all more like oh my goodness 3LVlkbW5kfg-00042-00009711-00009910 he needs to stop that 3LVlkbW5kfg-00043-00009911-00010191 this is nasty and i'm gonna 3LVlkbW5kfg-00044-00010192-00010287 speak on behalf of 3LVlkbW5kfg-00045-00010288-00010455 all men it ain't that we got a problem 3LVlkbW5kfg-00046-00010456-00010599 eating your it's what we go 3LVlkbW5kfg-00047-00010600-00010838 through when we eat your 3LVlkbW5kfg-00048-00010839-00011038 cause we all wanna hear that magical 3LVlkbW5kfg-00049-00011039-00011174 sentence that you got to come out of 3LVlkbW5kfg-00050-00011175-00011246 your mouth 3LVlkbW5kfg-00051-00011247-00011495 oh don't stop i'm about to come oh don't 3LVlkbW5kfg-00052-00011496-00011670 stop i'm about to come 3LVlkbW5kfg-00053-00011671-00011771 we'll be down there 3LVlkbW5kfg-00054-00011772-00011974 [Music] 3LVlkbW5kfg-00055-00011975-00012135 and then you say that oh don't stop i'm 3LVlkbW5kfg-00056-00012136-00012295 about to come 3LVlkbW5kfg-00057-00012296-00012863 oh don't stop the car 3LVlkbW5kfg-00058-00012863-00013111 oh don't stop i'm about to come you said 3LVlkbW5kfg-00059-00013112-00013375 that an hour and 15 minutes ago 3LVlkbW5kfg-00060-00013376-00013727 you need to hurry the up 3LVlkbW5kfg-00061-00013728-00013999 you need to hurry the up but there 3LVlkbW5kfg-00062-00014000-00014158 ain't no man in this room that has ever 3LVlkbW5kfg-00063-00014159-00014311 said that magical sentence 3LVlkbW5kfg-00064-00014312-00014471 ain't no man in this room that has ever 3LVlkbW5kfg-00065-00014472-00014671 said oh 3LVlkbW5kfg-00066-00014672-00014975 don't stop i'm about to come if he says 3LVlkbW5kfg-00067-00014976-00015119 he got that whole sentence out of his 3LVlkbW5kfg-00068-00015119-00015286 mouth he's a liar 3LVlkbW5kfg-00069-00015287-00015694 because the moment we say oh 3LVlkbW5kfg-00070-00015695-00017535 don't stop what do they do 3LVlkbW5kfg-00071-00017536-00017743 the you point my dick over here for 3LVlkbW5kfg-00072-00017744-00017863 him look the over here i didn't eat 3LVlkbW5kfg-00073-00017864-00018119 your like that 3LVlkbW5kfg-00074-00018120-00018647 you better take a face painting 3LVlkbW5kfg-00075-00018648-00019086 better get you a sperm perm 3LVlkbW5kfg-00076-00019087-00019367 i got to say this real quick i want i 3LVlkbW5kfg-00077-00019368-00019479 want y'all to tell me the truth y'all 3LVlkbW5kfg-00078-00019480-00019686 going to do that for me 3LVlkbW5kfg-00079-00019687-00019822 it's been raining today and i've been 3LVlkbW5kfg-00080-00019823-00019935 hearing through the rumor mill through 3LVlkbW5kfg-00081-00019936-00020111 the grapevine 3LVlkbW5kfg-00082-00020112-00020230 that black people say that when white 3LVlkbW5kfg-00083-00020231-00020367 people get caught in the rain we smell 3LVlkbW5kfg-00084-00020368-00020607 like wet dogs 3LVlkbW5kfg-00085-00020608-00021022 damn kiss my ass kiss my white ass 3LVlkbW5kfg-00086-00021023-00021230 hey you know what though you know what 3LVlkbW5kfg-00087-00021231-00021519 you know what 3LVlkbW5kfg-00088-00021520-00021822 rain must be kryptonite to black people 3LVlkbW5kfg-00089-00021823-00021967 because i'm surprised y'all even came 3LVlkbW5kfg-00090-00021968-00022207 out today y'all know you don't like to 3LVlkbW5kfg-00091-00022208-00022367 come out in the rain rain is kryptonite 3LVlkbW5kfg-00092-00022368-00022478 to black people 3LVlkbW5kfg-00093-00022479-00022678 why don't y'all come out in the ring 3LVlkbW5kfg-00094-00022679-00022807 because your hair will get nappier than 3LVlkbW5kfg-00095-00022808-00022991 a 3LVlkbW5kfg-00096-00022992-00023375 nappy nappy nappy nappy nappy 3LVlkbW5kfg-00097-00023376-00023694 yeah i said it give a 3LVlkbW5kfg-00098-00023695-00023878 hey i want to say this and i gotta 3LVlkbW5kfg-00099-00023879-00024103 go i love y'all keep supporting comedy 3LVlkbW5kfg-00100-00024104-00024247 and i want to thank each and every one 3LVlkbW5kfg-00101-00024248-00024422 of you black guys for dating these ugly 3LVlkbW5kfg-00102-00024423-00024567 ass white chicks and taking them off our 3LVlkbW5kfg-00103-00024568-00024878 hands 3LVlkbW5kfg-00104-00024879-00025127 real business my name is ray lepowski 3LVlkbW5kfg-00105-00025128-00025528 i'm out of here 3M1lwMriWS0-00000-00000049-00000297 the history of pseudoscience as the 3M1lwMriWS0-00001-00000298-00000501 study of pseudo-scientific theories over 3M1lwMriWS0-00002-00000501-00000854 time a pseudoscience has a set of ideas 3M1lwMriWS0-00003-00000855-00001095 that presents itself as science while it 3M1lwMriWS0-00004-00001096-00001295 does not meet the criteria to properly 3M1lwMriWS0-00005-00001296-00001479 be called such distinguishing between 3M1lwMriWS0-00006-00001480-00001733 proper science and pseudoscience as 3M1lwMriWS0-00007-00001734-00002072 sometimes difficult one popular proposal 3M1lwMriWS0-00008-00002073-00002291 for demarcation between the two as the 3M1lwMriWS0-00009-00002292-00002534 falsification criterion most notably 3M1lwMriWS0-00010-00002535-00002756 contributed to by the philosopher Karl 3M1lwMriWS0-00011-00002757-00003026 Popper in the history of pseudoscience 3M1lwMriWS0-00012-00003027-00003284 it can be especially hard to separate 3M1lwMriWS0-00013-00003285-00003456 the two because some science is 3M1lwMriWS0-00014-00003457-00003686 developed from pseudo-sciences an 3M1lwMriWS0-00015-00003686-00003927 example of this as the science chemistry 3M1lwMriWS0-00016-00003928-00004206 which traces its origins from the proto 3M1lwMriWS0-00017-00004207-00004556 science of alchemy the vast diversity in 3M1lwMriWS0-00018-00004557-00004784 pseudo-sciences further complicates the 3M1lwMriWS0-00019-00004785-00005004 history of pseudoscience some 3M1lwMriWS0-00020-00005005-00005202 pseudoscience is originated in the 3M1lwMriWS0-00021-00005203-00005475 pre-scientific era such as astrology and 3M1lwMriWS0-00022-00005476-00005781 acupuncture others developed as part of 3M1lwMriWS0-00023-00005782-00006059 an ideology such as lysenko ism or as a 3M1lwMriWS0-00024-00006060-00006270 response to perceived threats to an 3M1lwMriWS0-00025-00006271-00006558 ideology an example of this as 3M1lwMriWS0-00026-00006559-00006764 creationism which was developed as a 3M1lwMriWS0-00027-00006765-00006987 response to the scientific theory of 3M1lwMriWS0-00028-00006988-00007331 evolution despite failing to meet proper 3M1lwMriWS0-00029-00007332-00007495 scientific standards many 3M1lwMriWS0-00030-00007496-00007731 pseudo-scientists survived this is 3M1lwMriWS0-00031-00007731-00007953 usually due to a persistent core of 3M1lwMriWS0-00032-00007954-00008112 devotees who refused to accept 3M1lwMriWS0-00033-00008113-00008370 scientific criticism of their beliefs or 3M1lwMriWS0-00034-00008371-00008673 due to popular misconceptions sheer 3M1lwMriWS0-00035-00008674-00008919 popularity is also a factor as is 3M1lwMriWS0-00036-00008920-00009135 attested by astrology which remains 3M1lwMriWS0-00037-00009136-00009351 popular despite being rejected by a 3M1lwMriWS0-00038-00009352-00010064 large majority of scientists 3M1lwMriWS0-00039-00010065-00010675 topic nineteenth-century 3M1lwMriWS0-00040-00010676-00010921 among the most notable developments in 3M1lwMriWS0-00041-00010922-00011149 the history of pseudoscience in the 19th 3M1lwMriWS0-00042-00011150-00011359 century are the rise of spiritualism 3M1lwMriWS0-00043-00011360-00011671 traced in America to 1848 homeopathy 3M1lwMriWS0-00044-00011672-00012025 first formulated in 1796 and phrenology 3M1lwMriWS0-00045-00012026-00012262 developed around 1800 3M1lwMriWS0-00046-00012263-00012562 another popular pseudo scientific belief 3M1lwMriWS0-00047-00012563-00012819 that arose during the 19th century was 3M1lwMriWS0-00048-00012821-00013041 the idea that there were canals visible 3M1lwMriWS0-00049-00013043-00013363 on Mars a relatively mild Christian 3M1lwMriWS0-00050-00013363-00013569 fundamentalist backlash against the 3M1lwMriWS0-00051-00013571-00013725 scientific theory of evolution 3M1lwMriWS0-00052-00013726-00013966 foreshadowed subsequent events in the 3M1lwMriWS0-00053-00013966-00014305 20th century the study of bumps and 3M1lwMriWS0-00054-00014306-00014521 fissures in people's skulls to determine 3M1lwMriWS0-00055-00014522-00014701 their character phrenology was 3M1lwMriWS0-00056-00014702-00014968 originally considered a science it 3M1lwMriWS0-00057-00014969-00015213 influenced psychiatry and early studies 3M1lwMriWS0-00058-00015215-00015502 into neuroscience as science advanced 3M1lwMriWS0-00059-00015503-00015730 phrenology was increasingly viewed as a 3M1lwMriWS0-00060-00015731-00016003 pseudoscience halfway through the 19th 3M1lwMriWS0-00061-00016004-00016234 century the scientific community had 3M1lwMriWS0-00062-00016235-00016417 prevailing Lee abandoned it halfway 3M1lwMriWS0-00063-00016418-00016618 through the century iridology was 3M1lwMriWS0-00064-00016619-00016822 invented by the Hungarian physician 3M1lwMriWS0-00065-00016823-00017128 Ignaz von Pecha Lee the theory would 3M1lwMriWS0-00066-00017129-00017326 remain popular throughout the 20th 3M1lwMriWS0-00067-00017327-00017716 century as well spiritualism sometimes 3M1lwMriWS0-00068-00017717-00018119 referred to as modern spiritualism or 3M1lwMriWS0-00069-00018120-00018493 spiritism or modern American 3M1lwMriWS0-00070-00018494-00018802 spiritualism grew phenomenally during 3M1lwMriWS0-00071-00018803-00019051 the period the American version of this 3M1lwMriWS0-00072-00019052-00019246 movement has been traced to the Fox 3M1lwMriWS0-00073-00019247-00019555 sisters who in 1848 began claiming the 3M1lwMriWS0-00074-00019556-00019849 ability to communicate with the dead the 3M1lwMriWS0-00075-00019850-00020062 religious movement would remain popular 3M1lwMriWS0-00076-00020063-00020344 until the 1920s when renowned magician 3M1lwMriWS0-00077-00020345-00020581 Harry Houdini began exposing famous 3M1lwMriWS0-00078-00020582-00020818 mediums and other performers as frauds 3M1lwMriWS0-00079-00020819-00021090 see also Harry Houdini hashtag debunking 3M1lwMriWS0-00080-00021091-00021358 spiritualists while the religious 3M1lwMriWS0-00081-00021359-00021547 beliefs of spiritualism are not 3M1lwMriWS0-00082-00021548-00021724 presented as science and thus are not 3M1lwMriWS0-00083-00021725-00021922 properly considered pseudo scientific 3M1lwMriWS0-00084-00021923-00022168 the movement did spawn numerous pseudo 3M1lwMriWS0-00085-00022169-00022396 scientific phenomena such as ectoplasm 3M1lwMriWS0-00086-00022397-00022759 and spirit photography the principles of 3M1lwMriWS0-00087-00022760-00023107 homeopathy were first formulated in 1796 3M1lwMriWS0-00088-00023108-00023356 by german physician samuel hahnemann 3M1lwMriWS0-00089-00023357-00023662 at the time mainstream medicine was a 3M1lwMriWS0-00090-00023663-00023872 primitive affair and still made use of 3M1lwMriWS0-00091-00023873-00024025 techniques such as blood 3M1lwMriWS0-00092-00024026-00024358 letting homeopathic medicine by contrast 3M1lwMriWS0-00093-00024359-00024544 consisted of extremely diluted 3M1lwMriWS0-00094-00024545-00024753 substances which meant that patients 3M1lwMriWS0-00095-00024754-00025063 basically received water compared to the 3M1lwMriWS0-00096-00025064-00025230 damage often caused by conventional 3M1lwMriWS0-00097-00025231-00025572 medicine this was an improvement during 3M1lwMriWS0-00098-00025573-00025878 the 1830s homeopathic institutions and 3M1lwMriWS0-00099-00025879-00026171 schools spread across the USA in Europe 3M1lwMriWS0-00100-00026172-00026455 despite these early successes homeopathy 3M1lwMriWS0-00101-00026456-00026695 was not without its critics its 3M1lwMriWS0-00102-00026695-00026935 popularity was on the decline before the 3M1lwMriWS0-00103-00026936-00027160 end of the 19th century though it has 3M1lwMriWS0-00104-00027161-00027505 been revived in the 20th century the 3M1lwMriWS0-00105-00027506-00027718 supposed Martian canals were first 3M1lwMriWS0-00106-00027719-00028018 reported in 1877 by the Italian 3M1lwMriWS0-00107-00028019-00028330 astronomer Giovanni Schiaparelli the 3M1lwMriWS0-00108-00028331-00028549 belief in them peaked in the late 19th 3M1lwMriWS0-00109-00028550-00028792 century but was widely discredited in 3M1lwMriWS0-00110-00028793-00029107 the beginning of the 20th century the 3M1lwMriWS0-00111-00029108-00029320 publication of Atlantis the antediluvian 3M1lwMriWS0-00112-00029320-00029599 world by politician and author Ignatius 3M1lwMriWS0-00113-00029600-00029920 al Donnelly in 1882 renewed interest in 3M1lwMriWS0-00114-00029920-00030243 the ancient idea of Atlantis this highly 3M1lwMriWS0-00115-00030244-00030493 advanced society supposedly existed 3M1lwMriWS0-00116-00030494-00030690 several millennia before the rise of 3M1lwMriWS0-00117-00030691-00031000 civilizations like ancient Egypt it was 3M1lwMriWS0-00118-00031001-00031249 first mentioned by Plato as a literary 3M1lwMriWS0-00119-00031250-00031567 device in two of his dialogues other 3M1lwMriWS0-00120-00031568-00031825 stories of lost continents such as Mew 3M1lwMriWS0-00121-00031826-00032068 and Lemuria also arose during the late 3M1lwMriWS0-00122-00032069-00032470 19th century in 1881 the Dutch 3M1lwMriWS0-00123-00032470-00032698 vereniging tuganda quacks all varied 3M1lwMriWS0-00124-00032699-00032971 English society against quackery was 3M1lwMriWS0-00125-00032972-00033154 formed to oppose pseudo scientific 3M1lwMriWS0-00126-00033155-00033951 trends in medicine it is still active 3M1lwMriWS0-00127-00033952-00034553 topic 20th century 3M1lwMriWS0-00128-00034554-00034790 among the most notable developments to 3M1lwMriWS0-00129-00034791-00035021 pseudoscience in the 20th century are 3M1lwMriWS0-00130-00035022-00035237 the rise of creationism the demise of 3M1lwMriWS0-00131-00035238-00035468 spiritualism and the first formulation 3M1lwMriWS0-00132-00035469-00035837 of ancient astronaut theory reflexology 3M1lwMriWS0-00133-00035838-00036116 the idea that an undetectable life force 3M1lwMriWS0-00134-00036117-00036314 connects various parts of the body to 3M1lwMriWS0-00135-00036315-00036524 the feet and sometimes the hands and 3M1lwMriWS0-00136-00036525-00036857 ears was introduced in the USA in 1913 3M1lwMriWS0-00137-00036858-00037133 as zone therapy creationism arose during 3M1lwMriWS0-00138-00037134-00037400 the 20th century as a result of various 3M1lwMriWS0-00139-00037401-00037685 other historical developments when the 3M1lwMriWS0-00140-00037686-00037907 modern evolutionary synthesis overcame 3M1lwMriWS0-00141-00037908-00038108 the eclipse of Darwinism in the first 3M1lwMriWS0-00142-00038109-00038342 half of the 20th century American 3M1lwMriWS0-00143-00038343-00038576 fundamentalist Christians began opposing 3M1lwMriWS0-00144-00038577-00038720 the teaching of the theory of evolution 3M1lwMriWS0-00145-00038721-00039038 in public schools they introduced 3M1lwMriWS0-00146-00039039-00039257 numerous laws to this effect one of 3M1lwMriWS0-00147-00039258-00039455 which was notoriously upheld by the 3M1lwMriWS0-00148-00039456-00039785 Scopes trial in the second half of the 3M1lwMriWS0-00149-00039786-00040013 century the space race caused a renewed 3M1lwMriWS0-00150-00040014-00040223 interest in science and worried that the 3M1lwMriWS0-00151-00040224-00040475 USA was falling behind on the Soviet 3M1lwMriWS0-00152-00040476-00040778 Union stricter science standards were 3M1lwMriWS0-00153-00040779-00041003 adopted and led to the reintroduction of 3M1lwMriWS0-00154-00041004-00041162 the theory of evolution in the 3M1lwMriWS0-00155-00041163-00041444 curriculum the laws against teaching 3M1lwMriWS0-00156-00041445-00041579 evolution were now ruled 3M1lwMriWS0-00157-00041580-00041813 unconstitutional because they violated 3M1lwMriWS0-00158-00041814-00042049 the separation of church and state 3M1lwMriWS0-00159-00042050-00042290 attempting to evade this ruling the 3M1lwMriWS0-00160-00042291-00042491 Christian fundamentalists produced a 3M1lwMriWS0-00161-00042492-00042695 supposedly secular alternative to 3M1lwMriWS0-00162-00042696-00043022 evolution creationism perhaps the most 3M1lwMriWS0-00163-00043023-00043235 influential publication of this new 3M1lwMriWS0-00164-00043236-00043466 pseudoscience was the Genesis flood by 3M1lwMriWS0-00165-00043467-00043718 young earth creationists John C Wickham 3M1lwMriWS0-00166-00043719-00044048 and Henry M Morris the dawn of the Space 3M1lwMriWS0-00167-00044049-00044321 Age also inspired various versions of 3M1lwMriWS0-00168-00044322-00044585 ancient astronaut theory while 3M1lwMriWS0-00169-00044586-00044768 differences between the specific 3M1lwMriWS0-00170-00044769-00045029 theories exists they share the idea that 3M1lwMriWS0-00171-00045030-00045248 intelligent extraterrestrials visited 3M1lwMriWS0-00172-00045249-00045431 earth in the distant past and made 3M1lwMriWS0-00173-00045432-00045761 contact with then living humans popular 3M1lwMriWS0-00174-00045762-00046004 authors such as Erich von Daniken and 3M1lwMriWS0-00175-00046005-00046267 zecharia sitchin began publishing in the 3M1lwMriWS0-00176-00046268-00046552 1960s among the most notable 3M1lwMriWS0-00177-00046553-00046814 publications in the genre as Chariots of 3M1lwMriWS0-00178-00046815-00047194 the Gods which appeared in 1968 3M1lwMriWS0-00179-00047195-00047497 the Apollo moon landings from the 1960s 3M1lwMriWS0-00180-00047498-00047740 through the 70s gave rise to a number of 3M1lwMriWS0-00181-00047741-00047986 Apollo moon landing hoax conspiracy 3M1lwMriWS0-00182-00047987-00048274 theories these conspiracy theories are 3M1lwMriWS0-00183-00048275-00048508 universally ignored by the scientific 3M1lwMriWS0-00184-00048509-00048691 community but at the end of the century 3M1lwMriWS0-00185-00048692-00048994 a Gallup poll showed 6% of the American 3M1lwMriWS0-00186-00048995-00049207 population did not believe the landings 3M1lwMriWS0-00187-00049208-00049399 were genuine late in the 20th century 3M1lwMriWS0-00188-00049400-00049675 several prominent skeptical foundations 3M1lwMriWS0-00189-00049676-00049831 were formed to counter the growth of 3M1lwMriWS0-00190-00049832-00050182 pseudo Sciences in the USA the most 3M1lwMriWS0-00191-00050183-00050353 notable of these are in chronological 3M1lwMriWS0-00192-00050354-00050734 order the Center for inquiry 1991 the 3M1lwMriWS0-00193-00050735-00051079 skeptics society 1992 the James Randi 3M1lwMriWS0-00194-00051080-00051242 Educational Foundation 3M1lwMriWS0-00195-00051244-00051514 1996 and the New England skeptical 3M1lwMriWS0-00196-00051515-00051916 Society 1996 the committee for skeptical 3M1lwMriWS0-00197-00051916-00052167 inquiry which has similar goals had 3M1lwMriWS0-00198-00052169-00052585 already been founded in 1976 it became 3M1lwMriWS0-00199-00052586-00052798 part of the Center for inquiry as part 3M1lwMriWS0-00200-00052799-00053083 of the foundation of the ladder in 1991 3M1lwMriWS0-00201-00053084-00053344 in the Netherlands stichting escapes 3M1lwMriWS0-00202-00053345-00054055 aswhat 7 3M1lwMriWS0-00203-00054057-00054680 topic 21st century 3M1lwMriWS0-00204-00054681-00054974 at the beginning of the 21st century a 3M1lwMriWS0-00205-00054975-00055209 variety of pseudo scientific theories 3M1lwMriWS0-00206-00055210-00055592 remain popular creationism in the form 3M1lwMriWS0-00207-00055593-00055817 of intelligent design suffered a major 3M1lwMriWS0-00208-00055818-00056086 legal defeat in the Kitzmiller V Dover 3M1lwMriWS0-00209-00056087-00056465 Area School District trial judge Johnny 3M1lwMriWS0-00210-00056466-00056702 Jones three ruled that intelligent 3M1lwMriWS0-00211-00056703-00056936 design is inseparable from creationism 3M1lwMriWS0-00212-00056937-00057122 and it's teaching in public schools 3M1lwMriWS0-00213-00057123-00057353 violates the Establishment Clause of the 3M1lwMriWS0-00214-00057354-00057647 First Amendment the trial sparked much 3M1lwMriWS0-00215-00057648-00057840 interest and was the subject of several 3M1lwMriWS0-00216-00057841-00058007 documentaries including the 3M1lwMriWS0-00217-00058008-00058232 award-winning Nova production Judgment 3M1lwMriWS0-00218-00058233-00058253 Day 3M1lwMriWS0-00219-00058254-00058691 intelligent design on trial 2007 the 3M1lwMriWS0-00220-00058692-00058922 pseudo-scientific idea that vaccines 3M1lwMriWS0-00221-00058923-00059246 cause autism originated in the 1990s but 3M1lwMriWS0-00222-00059247-00059468 became prominent in the media during the 3M1lwMriWS0-00223-00059469-00059816 first decade of the 21st century despite 3M1lwMriWS0-00224-00059817-00060074 a broad scientific consensus against the 3M1lwMriWS0-00225-00060075-00060232 idea that there is a link between 3M1lwMriWS0-00226-00060233-00060449 vaccinations and autism several 3M1lwMriWS0-00227-00060450-00060755 celebrities have joined the debate most 3M1lwMriWS0-00228-00060756-00061007 notable of these as Jenny McCarthy whose 3M1lwMriWS0-00229-00061008-00061124 son has autism 3M1lwMriWS0-00230-00061125-00061526 in February 2009 surgeon Andrew 3M1lwMriWS0-00231-00061527-00061685 Wakefield who published the original 3M1lwMriWS0-00232-00061686-00061937 research supposedly indicating a link 3M1lwMriWS0-00233-00061938-00062196 between vaccines and autism was reported 3M1lwMriWS0-00234-00062197-00062390 to have fixed the data by the Sunday 3M1lwMriWS0-00235-00062391-00062681 Times a hearing by the General Medical 3M1lwMriWS0-00236-00062682-00063029 Council had already begun in March 2007 3M1lwMriWS0-00237-00063030-00063234 examining charges of professional 3M1lwMriWS0-00238-00063235-00063328 misconduct 3M1lwMriWS0-00239-00063329-00063602 the most notable development in the 3M1lwMriWS0-00240-00063603-00063846 ancient astronauts genre was the opening 3M1lwMriWS0-00241-00063847-00064096 of Erich von Daniken's mystery Park in 3M1lwMriWS0-00242-00064097-00064436 2003 while the park had a good first 3M1lwMriWS0-00243-00064437-00064655 year the number of visitors was much 3M1lwMriWS0-00244-00064656-00064948 lower than the expected 500,000 a year 3M1lwMriWS0-00245-00064949-00065271 this caused financial difficulties which 3M1lwMriWS0-00246-00065272-00066077 led to the closure of the park in 2006 3M1lwMriWS0-00247-00066078-00066458 topic see also 3M1lwMriWS0-00248-00066459-00066651 you 3M1lwMriWS0-00249-00066652-00066968 you 3M1lwMriWS0-00250-00066969-00067253 topic histories of specific 3M1lwMriWS0-00251-00067254-00067672 pseudo-sciences 3M1lwMriWS0-00252-00067673-00068011 history of astrology history of 3M1lwMriWS0-00253-00068012-00068326 creationism history of perpetual motion 3M1lwMriWS0-00254-00068327-00068611 machines 3pvZbuqYaTk-00000-00000192-00000551 hello guys 3pvZbuqYaTk-00001-00000552-00000703 all right i need to get something off my 3pvZbuqYaTk-00002-00000704-00000975 chest okay you know how people when they 3pvZbuqYaTk-00003-00000976-00001150 lie to you 3pvZbuqYaTk-00004-00001151-00001358 it's really [__] annoying 3pvZbuqYaTk-00005-00001359-00001663 as human beings we all play the same 3pvZbuqYaTk-00006-00001664-00001830 little games 3pvZbuqYaTk-00007-00001832-00002167 same little [__] we all overreact 3pvZbuqYaTk-00008-00002168-00002350 we all flirt 3pvZbuqYaTk-00009-00002351-00002567 we all say [__] 3pvZbuqYaTk-00010-00002568-00002695 sometimes we don't mean it and we 3pvZbuqYaTk-00011-00002696-00002942 overreact like i was saying 3pvZbuqYaTk-00012-00002943-00003175 what one point i'm trying to get across 3pvZbuqYaTk-00013-00003176-00003399 is that you can say [__] till you're 3pvZbuqYaTk-00014-00003400-00003599 blue in the face of somebody 3pvZbuqYaTk-00015-00003600-00003822 and they won't [__] listen 3pvZbuqYaTk-00016-00003823-00003983 they won't [__] listen they won't do 3pvZbuqYaTk-00017-00003984-00004191 it they won't do it they won't do it 3pvZbuqYaTk-00018-00004192-00004359 they won't listen so 3pvZbuqYaTk-00019-00004360-00004543 you could sit there and say what you 3pvZbuqYaTk-00020-00004544-00004791 want you can feel what they you want but 3pvZbuqYaTk-00021-00004792-00005015 in a day it's not gonna [__] matter 3pvZbuqYaTk-00022-00005016-00005367 it's really not 3pvZbuqYaTk-00023-00005368-00005748 that's all i want to say 3OrimfTOb2M-00000-00000306-00000701 my god oh thanks got the guitar oh Jesus 3OrimfTOb2M-00001-00000702-00000761 Christ 3OrimfTOb2M-00002-00000762-00001019 Cinda oh my goodness man dude been 3OrimfTOb2M-00003-00001019-00001286 jamming Aeternus on the table he jumps 3OrimfTOb2M-00004-00001287-00001672 on the range oh my god no no no that's 3OrimfTOb2M-00005-00001673-00002005 us Christ for cane around the old guard 3OrimfTOb2M-00006-00002007-00002279 little mouse Oh DJ Charles is coming 3OrimfTOb2M-00007-00002280-00002368 down 3OrimfTOb2M-00008-00002369-00002668 watch out Ajay I'll see you poke it into 3OrimfTOb2M-00009-00002669-00002999 the outside the cow man I choke in the 3OrimfTOb2M-00010-00003000-00003392 life out our video Jesus right it's the 3OrimfTOb2M-00011-00003393-00003551 bull I freaking knew it I know that's 3OrimfTOb2M-00012-00003552-00003745 what Jesus I can't see him Punk with the 3OrimfTOb2M-00013-00003746-00004040 ladder it seems the trick came into 3OrimfTOb2M-00014-00004040-00004343 giving in and through the light take 3OrimfTOb2M-00015-00004344-00004643 advantage of it look out Big E yeah Wow 3OrimfTOb2M-00016-00004644-00004852 be dealing his knees begging for mercy 3OrimfTOb2M-00017-00004853-00005227 oh my goodness gracious how he takes up 3OrimfTOb2M-00018-00005228-00005531 CM Punk with the ladder woman oh my god 3OrimfTOb2M-00019-00005532-00005745 Kate's got a bottle in his hand look out 3OrimfTOb2M-00020-00005746-00006025 it's gonna go throw those on the table 3OrimfTOb2M-00021-00006026-00006383 Jesus Christ brawls go for the win I'll 3OrimfTOb2M-00022-00006384-00006788 reverse oh here it goes oh my god Jesus 3OrimfTOb2M-00023-00006789-00007169 Christ one of over shoulders walk the 3OrimfTOb2M-00024-00007170-00007360 room door now he has the ladder and he's 3OrimfTOb2M-00025-00007361-00007609 gonna throw her to the outside I hope he 3OrimfTOb2M-00026-00007611-00007945 takes her to his jumping oh oh what a 3OrimfTOb2M-00027-00007947-00008156 nice he looks up at oh my god here comes 3OrimfTOb2M-00028-00008156-00008501 RVD all he can to God oh wow oh my 3OrimfTOb2M-00029-00008502-00008549 goodness 3OrimfTOb2M-00030-00008550-00008921 oh Jesus Christ he took a dive no cuz he 3OrimfTOb2M-00031-00008922-00009005 lands on the apron 3OrimfTOb2M-00032-00009006-00009289 Oh keeps landing and all ideas in his 3OrimfTOb2M-00033-00009290-00009455 hip or off his it oh my goodness 3OrimfTOb2M-00034-00009456-00009664 from behind salmon look at him I saw the 3OrimfTOb2M-00035-00009665-00010109 referee oh my god oh my god he picked 3OrimfTOb2M-00036-00010110-00010237 him out 3OrimfTOb2M-00037-00010238-00010732 [Applause] 3OrimfTOb2M-00038-00010733-00011350 look out Raj look out Oh 3OrimfTOb2M-00039-00011351-00011734 oh my goodness go and hear of it 3OrimfTOb2M-00040-00011735-00012138 oh my god he's got a chair oh my god 3OrimfTOb2M-00041-00012139-00012519 nice Christ the table no choke slam 3OrimfTOb2M-00042-00012520-00013134 christ almighty 3OrimfTOb2M-00043-00013135-00013426 shiny turns around oh my goodness AJ 3OrimfTOb2M-00044-00013427-00013525 stop Wow 3OrimfTOb2M-00045-00013526-00013716 what is he doing he's gonna jump on the 3OrimfTOb2M-00046-00013718-00013876 park oh nice 3OrimfTOb2M-00047-00013877-00014218 it could be over right here the Dudley's 3OrimfTOb2M-00048-00014219-00014538 are getting the hell out of here and a 3OrimfTOb2M-00049-00014540-00014725 ladder Jesus Christ 3OrimfTOb2M-00050-00014726-00015091 and here comes edge oh it's false always 3OrimfTOb2M-00051-00015091-00015256 go to him oh there he is he's got a 3OrimfTOb2M-00052-00015257-00015622 chair oh they're jamming a term I rub 3OrimfTOb2M-00053-00015622-00015838 Kenny Omega here comes off the apron Oh 3OrimfTOb2M-00054-00015838-00016099 Oh my edge is gonna go for the spare 3OrimfTOb2M-00055-00016100-00016258 let's see here 3OrimfTOb2M-00056-00016259-00016555 Lister the table for those unconscious 3OrimfTOb2M-00057-00016556-00016882 oh oh don't do it already 3OrimfTOb2M-00058-00016883-00017515 Oh oh my god pop-up powerbomb ah yes our 3OrimfTOb2M-00059-00017516-00017833 own Kevin Owens ah they planted 44 finn 3OrimfTOb2M-00060-00017834-00018049 balor and kenny omega and oh my goodness 3OrimfTOb2M-00061-00018050-00018256 a shot this is all school Oh another 3OrimfTOb2M-00062-00018257-00018478 shuffle in the elite champion and oh my 3OrimfTOb2M-00063-00018479-00018640 goodness the what's up that's Kevin 3OrimfTOb2M-00064-00018641-00018700 Feige Oh 3OrimfTOb2M-00065-00018701-00019163 [Applause] 3SFgXUAsdeA-00000-00000000-00000302 lo primero lo que decir modest lo 3SFgXUAsdeA-00001-00000303-00000539 primero es que la conferencia en ingles 3SFgXUAsdeA-00002-00000540-00000784 y que si alguien que traducción que se 3SFgXUAsdeA-00003-00000785-00001016 ponga en las villas del fondo male es 3SFgXUAsdeA-00004-00001017-00001303 donde la verdad la traducción por otro 3SFgXUAsdeA-00005-00001304-00001748 lado bueno John Perry Barlow pastor la 3SFgXUAsdeA-00006-00001748-00001984 conferencia pero SI alguna cosa algun 3SFgXUAsdeA-00007-00001985-00002242 dated alguna información que el de y que 3SFgXUAsdeA-00008-00002243-00002570 NOS entiendo que NOS acaba de profundis 3SFgXUAsdeA-00009-00002571-00002941 r un poco mas SE puede interrumpir e y y 3SFgXUAsdeA-00010-00002942-00003419 acaba de matar lo bueno hemos estado que 3SFgXUAsdeA-00011-00003420-00003563 se so toda la mañana blonde un poco como 3SFgXUAsdeA-00012-00003564-00003881 de restrict she owns legislations norma 3SFgXUAsdeA-00013-00003882-00004154 Tevas que intentan alguna manera como de 3SFgXUAsdeA-00014-00004155-00004334 terminar con las a nuestros o de Lorette 3SFgXUAsdeA-00015-00004335-00004610 y ventas un poco la soo so sociales 3SFgXUAsdeA-00016-00004611-00004847 cream emergent evan haciendo la red y 3SFgXUAsdeA-00017-00004848-00005090 tambien a moze hablado de como la 3SFgXUAsdeA-00018-00005091-00005263 propiedad sociedad de vinos sought 3SFgXUAsdeA-00019-00005264-00005654 organizamos nuit y creo Mo's Puentes 3SFgXUAsdeA-00020-00005655-00005938 Greta's otras formas de entender la red 3SFgXUAsdeA-00021-00005939-00006234 y que mejor manera de ferran diagnóstico 3SFgXUAsdeA-00022-00006235-00006527 actual estado de lo que desde hace mucho 3SFgXUAsdeA-00023-00006528-00006680 tiempo SE vienen tenido que son las 3SFgXUAsdeA-00024-00006681-00006887 libertad A's dentro de la red que tener 3SFgXUAsdeA-00025-00006888-00007123 oh yeah Kia on Perry Barlow se como 3SFgXUAsdeA-00026-00007125-00007478 antes anuncia bedolla hace que ellos no 3SFgXUAsdeA-00027-00007479-00007924 escribio a la la de gracia need a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00028-00007925-00008333 potential tavares patio a poco mas 3SFgXUAsdeA-00029-00008334-00008674 aparte decir que tenemos a la gente de 3SFgXUAsdeA-00030-00008675-00009083 sí sí allí dicho apart a decir que la la 3SFgXUAsdeA-00031-00009084-00009413 gente que esta la mesa de da de antonio 3SFgXUAsdeA-00032-00009414-00009583 delgado da Bravo feliz de Vicente 3SFgXUAsdeA-00033-00009584-00009905 eee-yaw Kassim of a non-porous eat on me 3SFgXUAsdeA-00034-00009906-00010153 any notice cuando cuando acabe la la 3SFgXUAsdeA-00035-00010154-00010283 conferencia en petty borrow lo queremos 3SFgXUAsdeA-00036-00010284-00010523 tan en Sarah intentar crews are no cos 3SFgXUAsdeA-00037-00010524-00010756 can salido con muchos y cosas problem NT 3SFgXUAsdeA-00038-00010757-00010994 apunte on preparo no en este y agnostic 3SFgXUAsdeA-00039-00010995-00011281 ok vas faire que como t to la la la 3SFgXUAsdeA-00040-00011282-00011528 charla son Quincy Anna's despues de la 3SFgXUAsdeA-00041-00011529-00011681 DEKRA la filmed independencia de veras 3SFgXUAsdeA-00042-00011682-00012251 patio John cuando quieras la gente que 3SFgXUAsdeA-00043-00012252-00012458 non tiene las llaves en ingles por favor 3SFgXUAsdeA-00044-00012459-00012649 que si enteng atras valet a alguien 3SFgXUAsdeA-00045-00012650-00012833 gente que no voy a entender ingles que 3SFgXUAsdeA-00046-00012834-00013284 por favor x atras see 3SFgXUAsdeA-00047-00013285-00013890 I am terribly sorry to have to speak to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00048-00013891-00014369 you in English I have the handicap in 3SFgXUAsdeA-00049-00014371-00014946 many ways of being an American and one 3SFgXUAsdeA-00050-00014947-00015213 of the one of the reasons that Americans 3SFgXUAsdeA-00051-00015213-00015576 are is as stupid about the world as we 3SFgXUAsdeA-00052-00015577-00015936 are is that we don't even hear the sound 3SFgXUAsdeA-00053-00015937-00016172 of another language besides english 3SFgXUAsdeA-00054-00016174-00016440 until sometimes we're in our teenage 3SFgXUAsdeA-00055-00016441-00016734 years and after that it's difficult to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00056-00016735-00017283 learn and so I I wish I could speak with 3SFgXUAsdeA-00057-00017284-00017592 you in Spanish I wish even more that I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00058-00017593-00017949 could speak with you in Catalan which is 3SFgXUAsdeA-00059-00017950-00018573 a wonderful language and I hope that you 3SFgXUAsdeA-00060-00018574-00019095 know if you can't understand me that you 3SFgXUAsdeA-00061-00019096-00019395 will stop me and ask for a translation 3SFgXUAsdeA-00062-00019396-00019938 feel free to do that please because I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00063-00019939-00020532 want to be understood if I can I want 3SFgXUAsdeA-00064-00020533-00020828 very much to thank everybody who has 3SFgXUAsdeA-00065-00020829-00021494 organized this festival which has been 3SFgXUAsdeA-00066-00021495-00021942 enormously gratifying and encouraging to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00067-00021943-00022869 me personally there was a time when I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00068-00022870-00023159 felt like I was one of very few people 3SFgXUAsdeA-00069-00023160-00023549 who realized what was going to happen 3SFgXUAsdeA-00070-00023550-00024258 with copyright and to see something like 3SFgXUAsdeA-00071-00024259-00024621 the Ox cars where you've got over a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00072-00024622-00025065 thousand people joyously celebrating the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00073-00025066-00025560 fact that they're outlaws in public was 3SFgXUAsdeA-00074-00025561-00026094 wonderful to me and and all of you 3SFgXUAsdeA-00075-00026095-00026448 especially the folks who were on the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00076-00026449-00026631 previous panel 3SFgXUAsdeA-00077-00026632-00027137 who are down fighting in the trenches of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00078-00027138-00027579 these issues now are people who make me 3SFgXUAsdeA-00079-00027580-00027920 very proud and I take great 3SFgXUAsdeA-00080-00027920-00028323 encouragement from I want to start by 3SFgXUAsdeA-00081-00028324-00028833 reading you something that was said to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00082-00028833-00029382 the Occupy New York people in Zuccotti 3SFgXUAsdeA-00083-00029383-00029832 Park day before yesterday by a fellow 3SFgXUAsdeA-00084-00029833-00030432 named Slavoj Zizek a former slovenian 3SFgXUAsdeA-00085-00030433-00030824 dissident speaking to the rally said 3SFgXUAsdeA-00086-00030825-00031314 they tell you we are dreamers but the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00087-00031314-00031593 true dreamers are those who think that 3SFgXUAsdeA-00088-00031594-00031962 things can go on indefinitely the way 3SFgXUAsdeA-00089-00031963-00032445 that they are we are not dreamers we are 3SFgXUAsdeA-00090-00032445-00032691 awakening from a dream that is turning 3SFgXUAsdeA-00091-00032692-00033006 into a nightmare we're not destroying 3SFgXUAsdeA-00092-00033007-00033390 anything we're watching a system destroy 3SFgXUAsdeA-00093-00033391-00034172 itself and I think that that is true but 3SFgXUAsdeA-00094-00034173-00034590 I have felt that that was true most of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00095-00034591-00035130 my rather long life because we are in 3SFgXUAsdeA-00096-00035131-00035514 the middle of an historical change that 3SFgXUAsdeA-00097-00035515-00036117 is profound and accelerating now I will 3SFgXUAsdeA-00098-00036118-00036489 not begin to live long enough to see the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00099-00036490-00036831 fruits of this revolution you may not 3SFgXUAsdeA-00100-00036832-00037305 either because the human race doesn't 3SFgXUAsdeA-00101-00037306-00037872 change as dramatically as it must now in 3SFgXUAsdeA-00102-00037873-00038551 a short time 3SFgXUAsdeA-00103-00038552-00039411 I'm trying to what is there oh I see 3SFgXUAsdeA-00104-00039412-00039976 okay all right fine and let me give you 3SFgXUAsdeA-00105-00039977-00040189 some historical perspective I mean one 3SFgXUAsdeA-00106-00040190-00040351 of the good things about being an old 3SFgXUAsdeA-00107-00040352-00040780 guy is that I have been watching this 3SFgXUAsdeA-00108-00040781-00041187 for a long time and when I was a young 3SFgXUAsdeA-00109-00041188-00041749 boy it's hard to believe but at that 3SFgXUAsdeA-00110-00041750-00042220 time everybody in the world as far as I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00111-00042221-00042699 could tell believed that there was an 3SFgXUAsdeA-00112-00042700-00043089 undeniable line of authority that headed 3SFgXUAsdeA-00113-00043090-00043480 straight up and whether it terminated in 3SFgXUAsdeA-00114-00043481-00044130 God or Chairman Mao or marks it was a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00115-00044131-00044689 great linear column generally white with 3SFgXUAsdeA-00116-00044690-00045024 a very powerful and and infallible being 3SFgXUAsdeA-00117-00045025-00045435 on the top and you on the bottom and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00118-00045436-00045727 there were a lot of other folks mostly 3SFgXUAsdeA-00119-00045728-00046348 male in that column and their word was 3SFgXUAsdeA-00120-00046349-00046882 as difficult to deny as as the word that 3SFgXUAsdeA-00121-00046883-00047314 came from the top and this was even true 3SFgXUAsdeA-00122-00047315-00047782 for beatniks and Bohemians and it didn't 3SFgXUAsdeA-00123-00047783-00047964 really make any difference who you were 3SFgXUAsdeA-00124-00047965-00048448 you believed in that system in the 1950s 3SFgXUAsdeA-00125-00048449-00048993 and early 1960s and after about 1965 I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00126-00048994-00049336 realized that there were increasing 3SFgXUAsdeA-00127-00049337-00049662 numbers of people who no longer believed 3SFgXUAsdeA-00128-00049663-00049960 that there was such a thing as divine 3SFgXUAsdeA-00129-00049961-00050476 authority who believed that authority 3SFgXUAsdeA-00130-00050477-00050682 was something that had to be earned and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00131-00050683-00051118 it had to be earned by everybody in the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00132-00051119-00051365 system 3SFgXUAsdeA-00133-00051366-00051685 what I didn't know then but I do know 3SFgXUAsdeA-00134-00051686-00052129 now was that we were seeing the end of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00135-00052129-00052782 monotheism the gradual decline of that 3SFgXUAsdeA-00136-00052783-00053104 belief system that was vertical and the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00137-00053104-00053454 beginning of a kind of pantheism which 3SFgXUAsdeA-00138-00053455-00053724 is an authority system that is based on 3SFgXUAsdeA-00139-00053725-00054225 relationship and consensus and mutual 3SFgXUAsdeA-00140-00054226-00054711 understanding I knew in the beginning 3SFgXUAsdeA-00141-00054712-00054966 that it was likely to be a struggle 3SFgXUAsdeA-00142-00054966-00055534 there was a moment when I and most of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00143-00055535-00055996 the people in my generation practically 3SFgXUAsdeA-00144-00055997-00056440 everywhere in the world thought that it 3SFgXUAsdeA-00145-00056441-00056949 would be over overnight that there would 3SFgXUAsdeA-00146-00056950-00057282 be a great awakening I think we all 3SFgXUAsdeA-00147-00057283-00057450 thought that everybody would drop acid 3SFgXUAsdeA-00148-00057451-00057898 and that would make it all good I think 3SFgXUAsdeA-00149-00057899-00058332 we actually believed that work for some 3SFgXUAsdeA-00150-00058333-00058926 of us but by nineteen seventy I realized 3SFgXUAsdeA-00151-00058927-00059205 that I was going to be fighting this all 3SFgXUAsdeA-00152-00059206-00059538 of my life and that even though those 3SFgXUAsdeA-00153-00059539-00059849 large institutions that it seemed so 3SFgXUAsdeA-00154-00059850-00060372 functional and credible when I was a boy 3SFgXUAsdeA-00155-00060373-00060801 went on seeming functional incredible in 3SFgXUAsdeA-00156-00060802-00061222 many ways that they were dying and they 3SFgXUAsdeA-00157-00061223-00061465 were coming apart and they would come 3SFgXUAsdeA-00158-00061466-00061834 apart because they were unsustainably 3SFgXUAsdeA-00159-00061835-00062226 centralized and large and as there came 3SFgXUAsdeA-00160-00062227-00062481 to be more and more people who could 3SFgXUAsdeA-00161-00062482-00062722 communicate better and better with one 3SFgXUAsdeA-00162-00062723-00063073 another that the notion that there was 3SFgXUAsdeA-00163-00063074-00063310 some system of authority that could be 3SFgXUAsdeA-00164-00063311-00063648 contained the notion that there was a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00165-00063649-00063951 reality distortion field that you could 3SFgXUAsdeA-00166-00063952-00064305 draw a fence around and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00167-00064307-00064564 and protect the belief system within 3SFgXUAsdeA-00168-00064565-00065053 that fence from all invading forces was 3SFgXUAsdeA-00169-00065054-00065539 no longer going to be true and that the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00170-00065540-00065854 economic forces that would happen as we 3SFgXUAsdeA-00171-00065855-00066273 became one large global economic unit 3SFgXUAsdeA-00172-00066274-00066571 we're going to be enormously divisive 3SFgXUAsdeA-00173-00066572-00066936 and that every single existing power 3SFgXUAsdeA-00174-00066937-00067594 relationship that existed in 1960 was 3SFgXUAsdeA-00175-00067595-00067966 going to be renegotiated over the course 3SFgXUAsdeA-00176-00067967-00068371 of my lifetime and that moreover those 3SFgXUAsdeA-00177-00068372-00068646 that had the power would be 3SFgXUAsdeA-00178-00068647-00068989 understandably reluctant to give it up 3SFgXUAsdeA-00179-00068990-00069373 and even though you knew that they were 3SFgXUAsdeA-00180-00069374-00069903 dying if it has felt much of my life 3SFgXUAsdeA-00181-00069904-00070372 like I was locked in a closet with a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00182-00070373-00070971 large dying reptile that thrashes and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00183-00070972-00071416 spasms and is no less dangerous for the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00184-00071417-00071785 fact that it's already dead in fact all 3SFgXUAsdeA-00185-00071786-00072307 the more so this is the circumstance 3SFgXUAsdeA-00186-00072308-00072592 that you are going to be delivered into 3SFgXUAsdeA-00187-00072593-00072979 and are delivered into you are the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00188-00072980-00073458 guerrilla forces on behalf of the future 3SFgXUAsdeA-00189-00073459-00073858 you are the ones who understand at least 3SFgXUAsdeA-00190-00073859-00074271 in some degree where we're going and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00191-00074272-00074782 where we can no longer be you are the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00192-00074783-00075268 ones who are not only waking up but even 3SFgXUAsdeA-00193-00075269-00075562 more importantly are not pretending to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00194-00075563-00076180 be asleep as the Navajo Indians say it's 3SFgXUAsdeA-00195-00076181-00076444 impossible to awaken someone who's 3SFgXUAsdeA-00196-00076445-00076794 pretending to be asleep 3SFgXUAsdeA-00197-00076795-00077094 and many are and it's an understandable 3SFgXUAsdeA-00198-00077095-00077493 reaction to the terrors of the present 3SFgXUAsdeA-00199-00077494-00077931 and the uncertainties of the future but 3SFgXUAsdeA-00200-00077932-00078294 I detect in you and in others like you 3SFgXUAsdeA-00201-00078295-00078510 that I get a chance to see and try to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00202-00078511-00078818 encourage all over the planet a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00203-00078819-00079172 willingness to go into that future and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00204-00079173-00079770 even enthusiasm a capacity to accelerate 3SFgXUAsdeA-00205-00079771-00080301 into the fog bank knowing that you can't 3SFgXUAsdeA-00206-00080302-00080703 stay where you are and having a deep 3SFgXUAsdeA-00207-00080704-00080868 sense of the understanding of how 3SFgXUAsdeA-00208-00080869-00081135 different you are from the people who've 3SFgXUAsdeA-00209-00081136-00081864 come before and I you know after the 60s 3SFgXUAsdeA-00210-00081865-00082404 I personally decided that it was all too 3SFgXUAsdeA-00211-00082405-00082770 confusing for me and I went back to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00212-00082771-00083142 Wyoming where I came from where it was 3SFgXUAsdeA-00213-00083143-00083438 perfectly possible to pet to spend the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00214-00083439-00083949 1970s and much of the 1980s in something 3SFgXUAsdeA-00215-00083950-00084279 that was very similar to the 1870s in 3SFgXUAsdeA-00216-00084280-00084579 that part of the world I was a cattle 3SFgXUAsdeA-00217-00084580-00085122 rancher I didn't get out that much I was 3SFgXUAsdeA-00218-00085123-00085584 writing songs for the Grateful Dead but 3SFgXUAsdeA-00219-00085585-00085899 I could do that in my spare time and I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00220-00085900-00086079 didn't have to go where they were to do 3SFgXUAsdeA-00221-00086080-00086613 it and I tried to I tried to abstract 3SFgXUAsdeA-00222-00086614-00087033 myself from all of these changes and I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00223-00087034-00087707 was a conservative Republican rancher I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00224-00087708-00087960 still felt many of the same things I do 3SFgXUAsdeA-00225-00087961-00088436 now but I found it convenient to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00226-00088437-00088629 interpret them through a different lens 3SFgXUAsdeA-00227-00088630-00089088 at the time but then by an odd set of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00228-00089089-00089673 circumstances in 1985 I discovered the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00229-00089674-00089780 internet 3SFgXUAsdeA-00230-00089781-00090101 a friend of mine I was trying to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00231-00090102-00090299 understand the people who followed the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00232-00090300-00090824 Grateful Dead because I couldn't really 3SFgXUAsdeA-00233-00090825-00091196 study them very well as soon as I got 3SFgXUAsdeA-00234-00091197-00091551 around them their behavior would change 3SFgXUAsdeA-00235-00091552-00091790 because as far as they were concerned I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00236-00091791-00092251 was a god like being I knew better but I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00237-00092252-00092642 needed to be invisible to understand how 3SFgXUAsdeA-00238-00092643-00092846 they how they made their community and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00239-00092847-00093185 that mattered to me because I came from 3SFgXUAsdeA-00240-00093186-00093569 a little town of the sort that is dying 3SFgXUAsdeA-00241-00093570-00093857 all over the planet little agricultural 3SFgXUAsdeA-00242-00093858-00094316 places that are sustained by family 3SFgXUAsdeA-00243-00094317-00094631 farming are the real communities and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00244-00094632-00094976 they're going away and I knew that then 3SFgXUAsdeA-00245-00094977-00095444 and I was looking for you guys if 3SFgXUAsdeA-00246-00095445-00095714 somebody said well you can find a lot of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00247-00095715-00096089 dead heads on the internet now at that 3SFgXUAsdeA-00248-00096090-00096325 point they're probably worth more than 3SFgXUAsdeA-00249-00096326-00097219 20,000 3SFgXUAsdeA-00250-00097220-00097510 oddly enough significant percentage of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00251-00097511-00097675 them were followers of the Grateful Dead 3SFgXUAsdeA-00252-00097676-00098281 and so so I got a 300 baud modem 300 3SFgXUAsdeA-00253-00098282-00098575 bits per second and a suction cup that I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00254-00098576-00098896 put on my telephone and figured out how 3SFgXUAsdeA-00255-00098897-00099115 to get connected to this thing and I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00256-00099116-00099342 didn't even know what it was for sure 3SFgXUAsdeA-00257-00099343-00099700 when I got there and it seemed like 3SFgXUAsdeA-00258-00099701-00100225 there was there to get to it was a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00259-00100226-00100606 religious experience because suddenly I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00260-00100607-00100963 felt like I was seeing the developing 3SFgXUAsdeA-00261-00100964-00101305 nervous system of a whole new organism 3SFgXUAsdeA-00262-00101306-00101584 of thought a whole new evolutionary 3SFgXUAsdeA-00263-00101585-00102040 layer in the great process that has 3SFgXUAsdeA-00264-00102041-00102710 created human beings and I have been 3SFgXUAsdeA-00265-00102711-00103048 doing everything I could from that point 3SFgXUAsdeA-00266-00103049-00103474 forward to help that wiring come into 3SFgXUAsdeA-00267-00103475-00103849 being and to make sure that it is open 3SFgXUAsdeA-00268-00103850-00104241 and that it is ecologically sound and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00269-00104242-00104623 that it is not easily influenced or 3SFgXUAsdeA-00270-00104624-00104977 circumvented by all the forces of the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00271-00104978-00105445 past which naturally regard it as a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00272-00105446-00105808 threat and will do everything in their 3SFgXUAsdeA-00273-00105808-00106240 power to kill it even though they now 3SFgXUAsdeA-00274-00106241-00106477 need it but at that point they didn't 3SFgXUAsdeA-00275-00106478-00106792 even need it and they were already 3SFgXUAsdeA-00276-00106793-00107095 started they their first initial their 3SFgXUAsdeA-00277-00107096-00107275 initial reaction was to pretend that it 3SFgXUAsdeA-00278-00107276-00107818 didn't exist at all I mean for a long 3SFgXUAsdeA-00279-00107819-00108178 time I mean freaky I'll give you an 3SFgXUAsdeA-00280-00108179-00108622 example in 1994 I talked to the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00281-00108623-00108958 information managers of all of the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00282-00108958-00109233 American federal agencies the people who 3SFgXUAsdeA-00283-00109234-00109381 were in charge of information management 3SFgXUAsdeA-00284-00109382-00109594 for the Defense Department the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00285-00109595-00109761 Agriculture Department the Interior 3SFgXUAsdeA-00286-00109763-00109890 Department 3SFgXUAsdeA-00287-00109891-00110211 there were about 30 of them and at that 3SFgXUAsdeA-00288-00110212-00110533 point less than half of them even knew 3SFgXUAsdeA-00289-00110533-00110983 the internet existed in 94 they didn't 3SFgXUAsdeA-00290-00110983-00111333 know that they already had a way to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00291-00111334-00111570 communicate between their agencies 3SFgXUAsdeA-00292-00111571-00112023 without printing it all out and sending 3SFgXUAsdeA-00293-00112024-00112478 it so they ignored it for quite a while 3SFgXUAsdeA-00294-00112479-00112859 but I managed to see the leading edge 3SFgXUAsdeA-00295-00112860-00113115 because going to an odd set of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00296-00113116-00113595 circumstances in 1989 I found myself 3SFgXUAsdeA-00297-00113596-00114007 affiliated with a group of 13 and 14 3SFgXUAsdeA-00298-00114008-00114312 year old kids from New York who called 3SFgXUAsdeA-00299-00114313-00114798 themselves the Legion of Doom Legion of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00300-00114799-00115297 Doom was trying to create their own 3SFgXUAsdeA-00301-00115298-00115657 internet by hacking into the telephone 3SFgXUAsdeA-00302-00115658-00115998 network and they had gotten very good at 3SFgXUAsdeA-00303-00115999-00116608 this they were like cave explorers in 3SFgXUAsdeA-00304-00116608-00116947 the telephone networks and I would 3SFgXUAsdeA-00305-00116948-00117273 sometimes get phone calls from 10 or 12 3SFgXUAsdeA-00306-00117274-00117457 kids from different payphones in New 3SFgXUAsdeA-00307-00117458-00117729 York that would simultaneously land in 3SFgXUAsdeA-00308-00117730-00118194 my ear none of them paying for the call 3SFgXUAsdeA-00309-00118195-00118638 and I thought they were great they were 3SFgXUAsdeA-00310-00118639-00118974 doing what kids do which is violating 3SFgXUAsdeA-00311-00118975-00119277 the forbidden and because they were sort 3SFgXUAsdeA-00312-00119278-00119625 of they were sort of homely and they 3SFgXUAsdeA-00313-00119626-00120094 were sort of math intensive and they 3SFgXUAsdeA-00314-00120095-00120414 were still pretty young they couldn't 3SFgXUAsdeA-00315-00120415-00120591 violate the forbidden they wanted to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00316-00120592-00120897 violate so they were using the phone 3SFgXUAsdeA-00317-00120898-00121430 networks and I liked him 3SFgXUAsdeA-00318-00121431-00121664 and I learned more and more about him 3SFgXUAsdeA-00319-00121665-00122270 and then one day I heard that one of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00320-00122271-00122981 them named acid freak with a pH had come 3SFgXUAsdeA-00321-00122982-00123208 home and found his 12 year old sister 3SFgXUAsdeA-00322-00123208-00123599 being held at gunpoint by six or seven 3SFgXUAsdeA-00323-00123600-00123965 large people from the Secret Service the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00324-00123966-00124124 folks that I thought just protected the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00325-00124125-00124333 president from being assassinated and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00326-00124333-00124700 and there in his house were these Secret 3SFgXUAsdeA-00327-00124701-00125033 Service agents holding his 12 year old 3SFgXUAsdeA-00328-00125033-00125393 sister at gunpoint while they carried 3SFgXUAsdeA-00329-00125394-00125630 everything out of the house that could 3SFgXUAsdeA-00330-00125631-00126016 possibly be thought of as electronic 3SFgXUAsdeA-00331-00126017-00126413 including his clock radio and his 3SFgXUAsdeA-00332-00126414-00126883 Metallica tapes and I thought well 3SFgXUAsdeA-00333-00126884-00127043 they're coming down off well Harvey's 3SFgXUAsdeA-00334-00127044-00127232 kids are doing worse stuff than I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00335-00127233-00127808 thought and I I backed away from him a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00336-00127808-00127970 little bit because I was afraid that 3SFgXUAsdeA-00337-00127971-00128177 maybe they were actually dangerous in 3SFgXUAsdeA-00338-00128178-00128669 some way didn't seem dangerous and then 3SFgXUAsdeA-00339-00128670-00128896 I got a phone call myself from the FBI 3SFgXUAsdeA-00340-00128897-00129440 and it was somebody I knew he was a guy 3SFgXUAsdeA-00341-00129441-00129698 who had investigated some stolen cattle 3SFgXUAsdeA-00342-00129699-00130205 for me and he was a good guy and he 3SFgXUAsdeA-00343-00130206-00130355 called me up and he said he needed to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00344-00130356-00130558 talk to me about an urgent matter and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00345-00130558-00130975 couldn't discuss it on the phone I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00346-00130976-00131363 didn't like the sound of that so he 3SFgXUAsdeA-00347-00131364-00131540 drove a hundred miles north to where I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00348-00131541-00131870 lived and showed up in a very nervous 3SFgXUAsdeA-00349-00131871-00132581 state anxious sweating and I I had to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00350-00132582-00133022 spend an hour and a half finding out 3SFgXUAsdeA-00351-00133023-00133288 what he thought he was investigating 3SFgXUAsdeA-00352-00133289-00133529 before i could start explaining to him 3SFgXUAsdeA-00353-00133530-00133754 why I was not the person who was doing 3SFgXUAsdeA-00354-00133755-00134114 it while he was investigating was that 3SFgXUAsdeA-00355-00134115-00134475 somebody had taken some source code 3SFgXUAsdeA-00356-00134476-00134902 from the Macintosh ROM chip and had 3SFgXUAsdeA-00357-00134903-00135137 passed it around to a few people on a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00358-00135138-00135552 floppy disk maybe remember those things 3SFgXUAsdeA-00359-00135553-00136043 and had apple had convinced themselves 3SFgXUAsdeA-00360-00136044-00136646 that if this perpetrator who called 3SFgXUAsdeA-00361-00136647-00136951 himself the new Prometheus league were 3SFgXUAsdeA-00362-00136952-00137407 allowed to go on he would eventually 3SFgXUAsdeA-00363-00137408-00137834 give the whole Macintosh recipe to the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00364-00137835-00138011 Chinese and that would be the end of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00365-00138012-00138427 Apple didn't work out quite like that i 3SFgXUAsdeA-00366-00138428-00138997 mean the chinese make all the apples but 3SFgXUAsdeA-00367-00138998-00139223 eventually we'll be able to do a better 3SFgXUAsdeA-00368-00139224-00139875 job probably very soon but at that point 3SFgXUAsdeA-00369-00139876-00140254 Apple was clueless an agent Baxter was 3SFgXUAsdeA-00370-00140255-00140549 completely clueless and I have never 3SFgXUAsdeA-00371-00140550-00140890 been comfortable with the site of a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00372-00140891-00141410 well-armed insecure men going around in 3SFgXUAsdeA-00373-00141411-00141809 a place he doesn't understand and I knew 3SFgXUAsdeA-00374-00141810-00142181 that just like Agent Baxter the people 3SFgXUAsdeA-00375-00142182-00142375 from the Secret Service that had been 3SFgXUAsdeA-00376-00142376-00142816 arresting my little friends were also 3SFgXUAsdeA-00377-00142817-00143207 clueless and that it was going to be 3SFgXUAsdeA-00378-00143208-00143657 necessary to prove that the Constitution 3SFgXUAsdeA-00379-00143658-00143810 of the United States which was what I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00380-00143811-00144012 thought was important at the time 3SFgXUAsdeA-00381-00144013-00144536 actually applied to this new place which 3SFgXUAsdeA-00382-00144537-00144703 shortly after that I started calling 3SFgXUAsdeA-00383-00144704-00145114 cyberspace after a bill gibson novel 3SFgXUAsdeA-00384-00145115-00145801 that i dread and i did some more 3SFgXUAsdeA-00385-00145802-00146081 investigating i found out about a game 3SFgXUAsdeA-00386-00146082-00146411 company called Steve Jackson games that 3SFgXUAsdeA-00387-00146412-00146585 it had all of their computers taken in 3SFgXUAsdeA-00388-00146586-00146775 all of their files because they were 3SFgXUAsdeA-00389-00146776-00147004 supposedly putting out a handbook for 3SFgXUAsdeA-00390-00147005-00147269 computer crime which was actually a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00391-00147270-00147620 role-playing game called cyberpunk 3SFgXUAsdeA-00392-00147621-00147998 uh I found out about a kid that was 3SFgXUAsdeA-00393-00147999-00148426 putting out of phone hacking bulletin in 3SFgXUAsdeA-00394-00148427-00148913 Illinois that had been very severely 3SFgXUAsdeA-00395-00148914-00149138 dealt with by the authorities and what 3SFgXUAsdeA-00396-00149139-00149324 was obviously a violation the First 3SFgXUAsdeA-00397-00149325-00149636 Amendment in the Fourth Amendment and I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00398-00149637-00149825 wrote about my visit from Agent Baxter 3SFgXUAsdeA-00399-00149826-00150197 and about the things that I was starting 3SFgXUAsdeA-00400-00150198-00150488 to see going on on the hacker frontier 3SFgXUAsdeA-00401-00150489-00150848 and it was read by a fella named Mitch 3SFgXUAsdeA-00402-00150849-00151295 cape or who was flying in his corporate 3SFgXUAsdeA-00403-00151296-00151529 jet over Wyoming the day that he read it 3SFgXUAsdeA-00404-00151530-00151832 and called me up literally from the sky 3SFgXUAsdeA-00405-00151833-00152147 and said I also had a visit from the FBI 3SFgXUAsdeA-00406-00152148-00152534 and I'm worried can I land in Pinedale 3SFgXUAsdeA-00407-00152535-00152894 and talk to you about it and we decided 3SFgXUAsdeA-00408-00152895-00153269 that we would get together we talked we 3SFgXUAsdeA-00409-00153270-00153389 started the electronic frontier 3SFgXUAsdeA-00410-00153390-00154001 foundation that afternoon and we I think 3SFgXUAsdeA-00411-00154002-00154247 we thought at first that it was going to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00412-00154248-00154538 be possible just to get some some 3SFgXUAsdeA-00413-00154539-00154808 powerful lawyers to take the Secret 3SFgXUAsdeA-00414-00154809-00155050 Service to court in the FBI to court and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00415-00155051-00155569 instruct them on the law in cyberspace 3SFgXUAsdeA-00416-00155570-00155843 and we hadn't been doing this very long 3SFgXUAsdeA-00417-00155844-00156188 and we'd been winning since they weren't 3SFgXUAsdeA-00418-00156189-00156709 prepared to see well-funded adversaries 3SFgXUAsdeA-00419-00156710-00157217 when I realized in fact I was helped to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00420-00157218-00157667 realize there was a teenage kid in what 3SFgXUAsdeA-00421-00157668-00157859 was still the Soviet Union who crawled 3SFgXUAsdeA-00422-00157860-00158060 underneath the foreign the Finnish 3SFgXUAsdeA-00423-00158061-00158417 border to connect his modem and write me 3SFgXUAsdeA-00424-00158418-00158762 an email saying that's great that you're 3SFgXUAsdeA-00425-00158763-00158990 defending the Constitution on the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00426-00158991-00159338 internet but what about us we don't have 3SFgXUAsdeA-00427-00159339-00159811 a constitution and I realized that our 3SFgXUAsdeA-00428-00159812-00160244 Constitution and in fact every law that 3SFgXUAsdeA-00429-00160245-00160607 could give a human being rights was 3SFgXUAsdeA-00430-00160608-00160872 going to be a local ordinance 3SFgXUAsdeA-00431-00160873-00161383 in cyberspace and that we were going to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00432-00161384-00161716 have to come up with ways to defend the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00433-00161717-00162187 borders of this new place from each 3SFgXUAsdeA-00434-00162188-00162516 jurisdiction that tried to invade it 3SFgXUAsdeA-00435-00162517-00162766 even as we were going to have to make 3SFgXUAsdeA-00436-00162767-00163041 certain that we stayed ahead of them 3SFgXUAsdeA-00437-00163042-00163324 technologically in designing the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00438-00163325-00163783 architecture of the internet because we 3SFgXUAsdeA-00439-00163784-00164331 knew that in this particular environment 3SFgXUAsdeA-00440-00164332-00165016 architecture is politics that what you 3SFgXUAsdeA-00441-00165017-00165373 can do on the internet the openness in 3SFgXUAsdeA-00442-00165374-00165697 the exchange of information coming and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00443-00165698-00166009 going will define what the politics are 3SFgXUAsdeA-00444-00166010-00166438 of that space and there are great many 3SFgXUAsdeA-00445-00166439-00166747 things that you know and we were 3SFgXUAsdeA-00446-00166748-00167112 starting to know that could be done to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00447-00167113-00167503 automatically advantage the net in the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00448-00167504-00168051 way that it was already advantaged and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00449-00168052-00168457 in fact had been designed to be in the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00450-00168458-00168826 very beginning I once had a conversation 3SFgXUAsdeA-00451-00168827-00169363 with a man named Paul Baran and Paul 3SFgXUAsdeA-00452-00169364-00169789 Baran invented the notion of packet 3SFgXUAsdeA-00453-00169790-00170080 switching which is the fundamental 3SFgXUAsdeA-00454-00170081-00170416 underlying realization that makes the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00455-00170417-00170839 internet work rather than mechanically 3SFgXUAsdeA-00456-00170840-00171124 switched networks which had been the way 3SFgXUAsdeA-00457-00171125-00171325 it was done up to that point all of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00458-00171326-00171535 which were very centralized in vertical 3SFgXUAsdeA-00459-00171536-00172021 and hierarchical packet switching made 3SFgXUAsdeA-00460-00172022-00172477 it possible to have this flat structure 3SFgXUAsdeA-00461-00172478-00172786 that we now see and I asked him I said 3SFgXUAsdeA-00462-00172787-00173146 when you invented packet switching were 3SFgXUAsdeA-00463-00173147-00173335 you trying to come up with an with a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00464-00173336-00173758 network that couldn't be decapitated by 3SFgXUAsdeA-00465-00173759-00174037 a nuclear attack was that was what was 3SFgXUAsdeA-00466-00174038-00174187 that what you were doing 3SFgXUAsdeA-00467-00174188-00174616 and he said no I was trying to come up 3SFgXUAsdeA-00468-00174617-00174904 with a network that didn't have a head 3SFgXUAsdeA-00469-00174905-00175528 and didn't need one and that was an 3SFgXUAsdeA-00470-00175529-00175705 important realization and it was 3SFgXUAsdeA-00471-00175706-00176131 something that all of the people then 3SFgXUAsdeA-00472-00176132-00176776 serve David Reed JCR Licklider all of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00473-00176777-00176932 the people who it was my great privilege 3SFgXUAsdeA-00474-00176933-00177385 to know and still no in some cases they 3SFgXUAsdeA-00475-00177386-00177928 all had that dream in them they all knew 3SFgXUAsdeA-00476-00177929-00178294 that they were part of a great change in 3SFgXUAsdeA-00477-00178295-00178525 the way in which authority would be 3SFgXUAsdeA-00478-00178526-00179044 conveyed they all knew as i know and i 3SFgXUAsdeA-00479-00179045-00179401 think you know that it is a fundamental 3SFgXUAsdeA-00480-00179402-00179932 human right to be able to have access to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00481-00179933-00180244 all that is known by your fellow human 3SFgXUAsdeA-00482-00180245-00180610 beings and it is a fundamental right to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00483-00180611-00180915 be able to say whatever is in your heart 3SFgXUAsdeA-00484-00180916-00181791 do as many of them as will listen so 3SFgXUAsdeA-00485-00181792-00182364 there is I think a right to know and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00486-00182365-00182665 there is a natural property of thought 3SFgXUAsdeA-00487-00182666-00183229 that it seeks to be known and there is a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00488-00183230-00183451 natural property to the most basic of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00489-00183452-00183826 human desires which besides sex and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00490-00183827-00184209 desire not to not to starve to death is 3SFgXUAsdeA-00491-00184210-00184617 fundamental and that is curiosity and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00492-00184618-00185269 the relationship between ideas and the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00493-00185270-00185848 creations of the human mind and the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00494-00185849-00186124 other people who seek them and who 3SFgXUAsdeA-00495-00186125-00186346 should have access to them was 3SFgXUAsdeA-00496-00186347-00186730 beautifully described and I'll hope 3SFgXUAsdeA-00497-00186731-00186986 you'll permit me 3SFgXUAsdeA-00498-00186987-00187390 thomas jefferson who was the first 3SFgXUAsdeA-00499-00187391-00187688 patent commissioner his first public job 3SFgXUAsdeA-00500-00187689-00187907 was that he was head of the United 3SFgXUAsdeA-00501-00187908-00188423 States Patent Commission before he was 3SFgXUAsdeA-00502-00188424-00188926 president and he wrote this about 3SFgXUAsdeA-00503-00188927-00189584 property and thought he said if nature 3SFgXUAsdeA-00504-00189585-00190094 has made any one thing less susceptible 3SFgXUAsdeA-00505-00190095-00190613 than all others of exclusive property it 3SFgXUAsdeA-00506-00190614-00190891 is the action of the thinking power 3SFgXUAsdeA-00507-00190892-00191309 called an idea which an individual may 3SFgXUAsdeA-00508-00191310-00191651 exclusively possess as long as he keeps 3SFgXUAsdeA-00509-00191652-00191963 it to himself but the moment it is 3SFgXUAsdeA-00510-00191964-00192413 divulged it forces itself into the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00511-00192414-00192757 possession of everyone and the receiver 3SFgXUAsdeA-00512-00192758-00193220 cannot dispossess himself of it it's 3SFgXUAsdeA-00513-00193221-00193613 peculiar character to he is that no one 3SFgXUAsdeA-00514-00193614-00193958 possesses the less because every other 3SFgXUAsdeA-00515-00193959-00194273 possesses the whole of it he who 3SFgXUAsdeA-00516-00194274-00194629 receives an idea from me receives 3SFgXUAsdeA-00517-00194630-00195074 instruction without lessening mine as he 3SFgXUAsdeA-00518-00195075-00195401 who likes his candle at mine receives 3SFgXUAsdeA-00519-00195402-00195902 light without darkening me that ideas 3SFgXUAsdeA-00520-00195903-00196253 should spread from one to another over 3SFgXUAsdeA-00521-00196254-00196550 the globe for the moral and mutual 3SFgXUAsdeA-00522-00196551-00196874 instruction of man and the improvement 3SFgXUAsdeA-00523-00196875-00197203 of his condition seemed to have been 3SFgXUAsdeA-00524-00197204-00197648 peculiarly and benevolently designed by 3SFgXUAsdeA-00525-00197649-00198166 nature when she made them like fire 3SFgXUAsdeA-00526-00198167-00198491 expansible over all space without 3SFgXUAsdeA-00527-00198492-00198748 lessening their density at any point and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00528-00198749-00199070 like the air in which we breathe move 3SFgXUAsdeA-00529-00199071-00199511 and have our physical being incapable of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00530-00199512-00199933 confinement or exclusive appropriation 3SFgXUAsdeA-00531-00199934-00200290 inventions then cannot in nature 3SFgXUAsdeA-00532-00200291-00200993 be subject to property and I think it's 3SFgXUAsdeA-00533-00200994-00201433 very good to remember this every time 3SFgXUAsdeA-00534-00201434-00201838 there is some large institution who 3SFgXUAsdeA-00535-00201839-00202114 claims that they have the right to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00536-00202115-00202477 restrict you from the creative work of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00537-00202478-00202975 your fellow human beings now look I am 3SFgXUAsdeA-00538-00202976-00203371 not in favor of people not getting paid 3SFgXUAsdeA-00539-00203372-00203839 to do work with their mind much of the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00540-00203840-00204199 work that I do and get paid for is done 3SFgXUAsdeA-00541-00204200-00204805 that way but fortunately I had the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00542-00204806-00205192 experience of recognizing that ownership 3SFgXUAsdeA-00543-00205194-00205496 of thought was actually an impractical 3SFgXUAsdeA-00544-00205496-00206110 way to get paid for it the band that I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00545-00206111-00206752 wrote songs for the Grateful Dead 3SFgXUAsdeA-00546-00206753-00207421 discovered in the late 60s or early 70s 3SFgXUAsdeA-00547-00207421-00207655 that people were coming into our 3SFgXUAsdeA-00548-00207656-00208279 concerts and taping them now at first we 3SFgXUAsdeA-00549-00208280-00208387 thought that they were stealing 3SFgXUAsdeA-00550-00208388-00208723 something from us and that was certainly 3SFgXUAsdeA-00551-00208725-00209056 what our record company thought and they 3SFgXUAsdeA-00552-00209057-00209284 wanted us to stop this practice and to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00553-00209285-00209710 kick these kids out and we did that for 3SFgXUAsdeA-00554-00209711-00210491 a while but then it seemed wrong they 3SFgXUAsdeA-00555-00210492-00210638 didn't seem like they were doing 3SFgXUAsdeA-00556-00210639-00210973 anything harmful to us and besides as 3SFgXUAsdeA-00557-00210975-00211217 the leader of the band Jerry Garcia said 3SFgXUAsdeA-00558-00211217-00211427 it's not like we're in it for the money 3SFgXUAsdeA-00559-00211428-00211838 anyway which was easy to say because we 3SFgXUAsdeA-00560-00211839-00212276 weren't making any money then but what 3SFgXUAsdeA-00561-00212277-00212698 happened was we invented viral marketing 3SFgXUAsdeA-00562-00212698-00213125 we didn't know that but Warner Brothers 3SFgXUAsdeA-00563-00213126-00213310 didn't have the slightest idea how to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00564-00213311-00213591 market Grateful Dead music 3SFgXUAsdeA-00565-00213592-00214033 our records weren't very good what we 3SFgXUAsdeA-00566-00214034-00214446 really did was improvised live and we 3SFgXUAsdeA-00567-00214448-00214714 did that very well we never played the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00568-00214715-00214917 same song twice you know in a sense 3SFgXUAsdeA-00569-00214919-00215242 because it was always changing so really 3SFgXUAsdeA-00570-00215242-00215448 if somebody wanted to experience what we 3SFgXUAsdeA-00571-00215450-00215761 were up to they had to hear those tapes 3SFgXUAsdeA-00572-00215762-00216046 and when they heard those tapes they 3SFgXUAsdeA-00573-00216046-00216298 thought cool I want to go to the whole 3SFgXUAsdeA-00574-00216298-00216798 damn thing so we very shortly became the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00575-00216800-00217051 most successful performing group in the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00576-00217052-00217402 United States we could fill any Stadium 3SFgXUAsdeA-00577-00217403-00217825 in America anytime we wanted to because 3SFgXUAsdeA-00578-00217826-00218017 we could haul our audience around with 3SFgXUAsdeA-00579-00218017-00218416 us they would attend all of the shows of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00580-00218417-00218748 a tour this was very good for us 3SFgXUAsdeA-00581-00218748-00219088 economically it turned out that by 3SFgXUAsdeA-00582-00219089-00219466 giving our stuff away we had made it a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00583-00219467-00219778 great deal more valuable not the stuff 3SFgXUAsdeA-00584-00219779-00220084 that we had done but the stuff we hadn't 3SFgXUAsdeA-00585-00220085-00220615 done yet what we were in was a service 3SFgXUAsdeA-00586-00220616-00220948 business what we were actually selling 3SFgXUAsdeA-00587-00220948-00221500 was not a noun was not content was not 3SFgXUAsdeA-00588-00221501-00222055 property but was a relationship between 3SFgXUAsdeA-00589-00222056-00222508 ourselves and our audience there was no 3SFgXUAsdeA-00590-00222509-00222729 different really from a lot of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00591-00222730-00223269 intellectual relationships lawyers you 3SFgXUAsdeA-00592-00223271-00223567 know which have been the bane of our 3SFgXUAsdeA-00593-00223567-00224190 existence don't copyright their briefs 3SFgXUAsdeA-00594-00224191-00224560 doctors and lawyers and and architects 3SFgXUAsdeA-00595-00224561-00224844 and a great many people don't find it 3SFgXUAsdeA-00596-00224846-00225157 necessary to own the work that they do 3SFgXUAsdeA-00597-00225158-00225313 with their mind because it's protected 3SFgXUAsdeA-00598-00225314-00225523 by the relationship that they have with 3SFgXUAsdeA-00599-00225523-00225838 the people who are interested and that 3SFgXUAsdeA-00600-00225839-00226116 is the economic principle of the future 3SFgXUAsdeA-00601-00226117-00226330 which is something that I think you 3SFgXUAsdeA-00602-00226331-00226609 already get 3SFgXUAsdeA-00603-00226610-00226904 unfortunately there are a lot of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00604-00226905-00227216 institutions that have been preying on 3SFgXUAsdeA-00605-00227217-00227644 creative people for a long time and have 3SFgXUAsdeA-00606-00227646-00227936 managed to take the things that human 3SFgXUAsdeA-00607-00227937-00228334 beings have done and now assert 80 years 3SFgXUAsdeA-00608-00228335-00228701 worth of ownership in spite of the fact 3SFgXUAsdeA-00609-00228702-00229076 that they never did a damn thing but 3SFgXUAsdeA-00610-00229077-00229396 they claim that they're protecting the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00611-00229398-00229946 artists and protecting the interest of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00612-00229946-00230423 people to want to create art I don't 3SFgXUAsdeA-00613-00230423-00230723 think that people create art because 3SFgXUAsdeA-00614-00230723-00230873 they think that their grandchildren 3SFgXUAsdeA-00615-00230873-00231191 might get paid for it maybe they 3SFgXUAsdeA-00616-00231192-00231488 certainly don't create art so that some 3SFgXUAsdeA-00617-00231489-00231725 large godless institution can go on 3SFgXUAsdeA-00618-00231726-00232119 making money from it for a hundred years 3SFgXUAsdeA-00619-00232121-00232451 most of them create art because they 3SFgXUAsdeA-00620-00232452-00232873 want to get laid that's certainly true 3SFgXUAsdeA-00621-00232875-00233234 in the music business and I think it may 3SFgXUAsdeA-00622-00233235-00233438 be true in the sculpture business and a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00623-00233439-00234116 number of others uh so you've got a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00624-00234117-00234515 business model that is trying to defend 3SFgXUAsdeA-00625-00234516-00234865 itself but more to the more to the point 3SFgXUAsdeA-00626-00234866-00235228 you have a whole system of authority and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00627-00235229-00235556 a whole system of organizing things that 3SFgXUAsdeA-00628-00235557-00235853 developed over the 19th century in the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00629-00235854-00236141 20th century that are trying to defend 3SFgXUAsdeA-00630-00236142-00236494 themselves against the new pantheistic 3SFgXUAsdeA-00631-00236496-00236978 horde of human thought that is coming at 3SFgXUAsdeA-00632-00236979-00237440 them in a horizontal wave and they find 3SFgXUAsdeA-00633-00237441-00237842 that intellectual property law is the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00634-00237842-00238460 best way to do that they're wrong they 3SFgXUAsdeA-00635-00238461-00238751 even know they're wrong but it's a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00636-00238752-00239033 religious principle to them and they 3SFgXUAsdeA-00637-00239034-00239344 will fight you in the way that people 3SFgXUAsdeA-00638-00239346-00239585 who are defending their religion will 3SFgXUAsdeA-00639-00239586-00240161 fight I once had a conversation with 3SFgXUAsdeA-00640-00240162-00240488 Kerry Sherman this is three or four 3SFgXUAsdeA-00641-00240489-00240905 years ago Kerry Sherman is the head of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00642-00240906-00241571 the record industry association and he 3SFgXUAsdeA-00643-00241571-00241829 has he and his organization have been 3SFgXUAsdeA-00644-00241830-00242167 suing as you know people all over the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00645-00242169-00242542 planet because they they want to listen 3SFgXUAsdeA-00646-00242544-00243046 to more music than they can get by by 3SFgXUAsdeA-00647-00243048-00243740 buying CDs and the electronic frontier 3SFgXUAsdeA-00648-00243741-00244021 foundation would do these studies in the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00649-00244023-00244163 Berkman Center at Harvard would do 3SFgXUAsdeA-00650-00244164-00244439 studies that prove my basic contention 3SFgXUAsdeA-00651-00244440-00244610 about the Grateful Dead model of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00652-00244611-00244937 intellectual property and said you know 3SFgXUAsdeA-00653-00244938-00245108 would prove that there was actually a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00654-00245109-00245456 lot of advantage to be gained in piracy 3SFgXUAsdeA-00655-00245457-00245651 to the people that wanted to create a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00656-00245652-00245848 relationship with the intellectual work 3SFgXUAsdeA-00657-00245850-00246137 and of course they would do their own 3SFgXUAsdeA-00658-00246138-00246329 studies and show that they were losing 3SFgXUAsdeA-00659-00246330-00246646 billions and I was sitting having a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00660-00246648-00246833 drink with him because we got along all 3SFgXUAsdeA-00661-00246834-00247181 right and I said how about how about we 3SFgXUAsdeA-00662-00247182-00247535 do this you guys an eff come together 3SFgXUAsdeA-00663-00247536-00248021 and we have a study that asks unloaded 3SFgXUAsdeA-00664-00248021-00248296 questions and we really try to find out 3SFgXUAsdeA-00665-00248298-00248678 what is actually going on and at first 3SFgXUAsdeA-00666-00248679-00249011 he said that's a great idea let's do 3SFgXUAsdeA-00667-00249012-00249290 that and I said no oh no no no no no I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00668-00249291-00249791 can't do that and I said why not and he 3SFgXUAsdeA-00669-00249792-00250121 said there are people that I work for 3SFgXUAsdeA-00670-00250121-00250466 that would rather go broke than have you 3SFgXUAsdeA-00671-00250467-00250910 be right about this and I said so we're 3SFgXUAsdeA-00672-00250911-00251192 talking about religion and he said call 3SFgXUAsdeA-00673-00251192-00251588 it what you will I said we might as well 3SFgXUAsdeA-00674-00251589-00251882 be arguing about abortion he said you 3SFgXUAsdeA-00675-00251883-00252067 said that I didn't 3SFgXUAsdeA-00676-00252069-00252540 but we might as well you are of a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00677-00252541-00252713 different religion than these folks and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00678-00252714-00253053 they're serious as hell and they have a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00679-00253054-00253344 right to be because their whole way of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00680-00253344-00253608 life is get is wrapped up in this and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00681-00253609-00253973 the artists that think that they can't 3SFgXUAsdeA-00682-00253975-00254317 make a living making great movies unless 3SFgXUAsdeA-00683-00254319-00254594 they charge for every single one of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00684-00254596-00254879 those movies that somebody sees are 3SFgXUAsdeA-00685-00254880-00255288 wrong unfortunately and they have been 3SFgXUAsdeA-00686-00255289-00255705 duped into thinking this they just have 3SFgXUAsdeA-00687-00255706-00256065 to have a new economic model and they 3SFgXUAsdeA-00688-00256066-00256338 have to be less beholden to the great 3SFgXUAsdeA-00689-00256339-00256571 institution that they're generally 3SFgXUAsdeA-00690-00256573-00256959 working for at this point there are a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00691-00256960-00257106 lot of things that are going to be 3SFgXUAsdeA-00692-00257107-00257457 difficult to sort through in this 3SFgXUAsdeA-00693-00257458-00257760 transition there are going to be a lot 3SFgXUAsdeA-00694-00257761-00258126 of sacrifices that you will be made to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00695-00258127-00258719 make you'll be in a lot of trouble I've 3SFgXUAsdeA-00696-00258721-00259011 been in trouble all my life and it's 3SFgXUAsdeA-00697-00259012-00259530 been fine with me because I know that 3SFgXUAsdeA-00698-00259531-00259889 the most important thing that I can do 3SFgXUAsdeA-00699-00259890-00260613 is to be a good ancestor and you will 3SFgXUAsdeA-00700-00260614-00260940 make better ancestors then your 3SFgXUAsdeA-00701-00260941-00263556 opponents I promise you thank 3SFgXUAsdeA-00702-00263557-00264210 I do it that we can we can take some 3SFgXUAsdeA-00703-00264211-00264381 questions right and we go back i mean i 3SFgXUAsdeA-00704-00264382-00264616 would like I I spoke longer than I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00705-00264617-00264795 wanted to I would really rather have a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00706-00264796-00265101 conversation I mean one of my objectives 3SFgXUAsdeA-00707-00265102-00265491 in life is to eliminate broadcast media 3SFgXUAsdeA-00708-00265492-00266079 know Here I am being one I don't know 3SFgXUAsdeA-00709-00266080-00266382 such a alguna pregunta una are in kalyan 3SFgXUAsdeA-00710-00266383-00267372 far I'll go great great speech mr. Vela 3SFgXUAsdeA-00711-00267373-00267771 and that's I what I try to be for my 3SFgXUAsdeA-00712-00267772-00268008 little children a better Rochester too 3SFgXUAsdeA-00713-00268009-00268656 and my question is not know there is the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00714-00268657-00269085 yogi Occupy Wall Street movement by San 3SFgXUAsdeA-00715-00269086-00269484 Francisco occupy what are you your 3SFgXUAsdeA-00716-00269485-00269743 personal feeling about what's happening 3SFgXUAsdeA-00717-00269744-00270107 in USA is it similar to what's happening 3SFgXUAsdeA-00718-00270108-00270562 what happened in Arab countries in here 3SFgXUAsdeA-00719-00270563-00271008 in Spain in Europe or there is cultural 3SFgXUAsdeA-00720-00271009-00271353 differences between the the movement is 3SFgXUAsdeA-00721-00271354-00271680 there a different focus in the United 3SFgXUAsdeA-00722-00271681-00271942 States how do how do you see this 3SFgXUAsdeA-00723-00271943-00272268 movement there it's the I mean I think 3SFgXUAsdeA-00724-00272269-00272724 it's obviously somewhat different in the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00725-00272725-00272982 Arab Awakening because you know there 3SFgXUAsdeA-00726-00272983-00273306 you were dealing in many cases with 3SFgXUAsdeA-00727-00273307-00273477 governments that simply had to be 3SFgXUAsdeA-00728-00273478-00273870 overthrown you know I mean there it 3SFgXUAsdeA-00729-00273871-00274155 wasn't like you could you could revise 3SFgXUAsdeA-00730-00274156-00274398 the government enough to make it 3SFgXUAsdeA-00731-00274399-00274809 tolerable and suddenly because of the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00732-00274810-00274974 internet there were enough people who 3SFgXUAsdeA-00733-00274975-00275368 who became aware of one another that 3SFgXUAsdeA-00734-00275369-00275502 they knew that they could get together 3SFgXUAsdeA-00735-00275503-00275844 and do that he wasn't going to be easy 3SFgXUAsdeA-00736-00275845-00276081 but they could do it and they are doing 3SFgXUAsdeA-00737-00276082-00276324 it I mean I don't know how things are 3SFgXUAsdeA-00738-00276325-00276585 going to play out in Syria but I'm you 3SFgXUAsdeA-00739-00276586-00276843 know I wouldn't want to be in charge of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00740-00276844-00276901 Syria 3SFgXUAsdeA-00741-00276902-00277330 moment in the United States and I think 3SFgXUAsdeA-00742-00277331-00277915 in Spain it's different we all know 3SFgXUAsdeA-00743-00277916-00278312 what's wrong I mean in fact everybody I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00744-00278313-00278620 think knows what's wrong including the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00745-00278621-00278991 people who were part of the problem I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00746-00278992-00279421 mean I rode in an airplane coming over 3SFgXUAsdeA-00747-00279422-00279817 here I wrote across with a very 3SFgXUAsdeA-00748-00279818-00280327 civilized french guy who'd been part of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00749-00280328-00280573 the the revolution in Paris which I was 3SFgXUAsdeA-00750-00280574-00280978 part of in 1968 butthead after that gun 3SFgXUAsdeA-00751-00280979-00281374 to work for corporation and was now on 3SFgXUAsdeA-00752-00281375-00281539 the board of directors of a very large 3SFgXUAsdeA-00753-00281540-00281830 pharmaceutical company it was very 3SFgXUAsdeA-00754-00281831-00282475 successful and I said that I felt like 3SFgXUAsdeA-00755-00282476-00282931 what had developed was a cancer on the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00756-00282932-00283282 economy it wasn't the old dinosaurs 3SFgXUAsdeA-00757-00283283-00283621 anymore it was a new species that had 3SFgXUAsdeA-00758-00283622-00284223 been enabled by the fluidity of flow 3SFgXUAsdeA-00759-00284224-00284656 financially that was created by 3SFgXUAsdeA-00760-00284657-00284995 globalization and the internet that can 3SFgXUAsdeA-00761-00284996-00285362 without any regulation at all naturally 3SFgXUAsdeA-00762-00285363-00285900 breed monopoly and massive concentration 3SFgXUAsdeA-00763-00285901-00286300 in a short period of time and I said I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00764-00286301-00286690 thought that it was like a cancer and he 3SFgXUAsdeA-00765-00286691-00287164 said I agree but suppose you're a cancer 3SFgXUAsdeA-00766-00287165-00287683 cell how do you stop the tumor and he 3SFgXUAsdeA-00767-00287684-00287998 really wanted to know and I couldn't 3SFgXUAsdeA-00768-00287999-00288427 give him an answer but I know that there 3SFgXUAsdeA-00769-00288428-00288625 are things that we can probably do in 3SFgXUAsdeA-00770-00288626-00288832 the United States I'm more familiar with 3SFgXUAsdeA-00771-00288833-00289105 them but there are things that can be 3SFgXUAsdeA-00772-00289106-00289329 done to regulate the financial industry 3SFgXUAsdeA-00773-00289330-00289798 that were done before there are things 3SFgXUAsdeA-00774-00289799-00289984 that we have learned over the the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00775-00289985-00290283 mistakes of the last 30 or 40 years 3SFgXUAsdeA-00776-00290284-00290621 that that we should be able to profit by 3SFgXUAsdeA-00777-00290622-00290967 but they may have to be done on a very 3SFgXUAsdeA-00778-00290968-00291312 granular level because the system at the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00779-00291313-00291849 top is two broken two fix itself so the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00780-00291850-00292194 real challenge is that we take the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00781-00292195-00292362 systems that have made it possible for 3SFgXUAsdeA-00782-00292363-00292802 us to gather so quickly and well and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00783-00292803-00293073 start figuring out ways to get the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00784-00293074-00293409 things done that government used to be 3SFgXUAsdeA-00785-00293410-00293733 able to do and can't do anymore very 3SFgXUAsdeA-00786-00293734-00294215 well and we figure out ways to regulate 3SFgXUAsdeA-00787-00294216-00294525 the financial bodies that were presently 3SFgXUAsdeA-00788-00294526-00294849 dependent on we need to come up with 3SFgXUAsdeA-00789-00294850-00295203 other currency systems many of us are 3SFgXUAsdeA-00790-00295204-00295431 working on that people in this room we 3SFgXUAsdeA-00791-00295432-00295809 need to come up with with a lot of tools 3SFgXUAsdeA-00792-00295810-00296055 that I think are being assembled by the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00793-00296056-00296406 likes of you but other you know they're 3SFgXUAsdeA-00794-00296407-00296658 the same movement it's the party of the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00795-00296659-00296940 future trying to protect itself from the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00796-00296941-00297660 party of the past bueno son las tres o 3SFgXUAsdeA-00797-00297661-00297840 casi las traes un poco mas pero lo vamos 3SFgXUAsdeA-00798-00297841-00298122 a esperar todavia un poquito a ver 3SFgXUAsdeA-00799-00298123-00298299 Nelson an antes pero tenemos una Phyllis 3SFgXUAsdeA-00800-00298300-00298653 arrow expand iridescent rally pas de que 3SFgXUAsdeA-00801-00298654-00299109 estan este fan agree so Jeremy Geraldine 3SFgXUAsdeA-00802-00299110-00299346 ho Solis de vicente gente del a direct 3SFgXUAsdeA-00803-00299347-00299493 Adele predict oh yeah gonna jump o 3SFgXUAsdeA-00804-00299494-00299685 steals as soon a few Latura see the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00805-00299686-00299913 looks yo que uno de ellos no han lose my 3SFgXUAsdeA-00806-00299914-00300324 perdido hi what so close at this what's 3SFgXUAsdeA-00807-00300325-00300494 it like an intimate conversation 3SFgXUAsdeA-00808-00300495-00300792 amplified intimate conversation hi 3SFgXUAsdeA-00809-00300793-00301179 anyway hi ah after these two days I have 3SFgXUAsdeA-00810-00301180-00301338 like one specific concern I need 3SFgXUAsdeA-00811-00301339-00301449 something that's been warned me a while 3SFgXUAsdeA-00812-00301450-00301641 which is that everybody in this room i 3SFgXUAsdeA-00813-00301642-00301941 greased on lots of stuff lots of it I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00814-00301942-00302121 mean and everybody in this room has been 3SFgXUAsdeA-00815-00302122-00302271 agreed on this is tough at least for 3SFgXUAsdeA-00816-00302272-00302574 five to ten years in a way and we've 3SFgXUAsdeA-00817-00302575-00302721 been producing a lot of thought and a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00818-00302722-00303155 lot of work on some very specific goals 3SFgXUAsdeA-00819-00303156-00303414 which were required and it was important 3SFgXUAsdeA-00820-00303415-00303672 that we had that but sometimes like 3SFgXUAsdeA-00821-00303673-00303900 sure that that we're just releasing like 3SFgXUAsdeA-00822-00303901-00304122 specifically in a moment like now one 3SFgXUAsdeA-00823-00304123-00304272 part of the map are not the whole 3SFgXUAsdeA-00824-00304273-00304611 landscape and no sort of changing some 3SFgXUAsdeA-00825-00304612-00304808 of the focus from some of the energies 3SFgXUAsdeA-00826-00304809-00305121 to other spaces like for instance we've 3SFgXUAsdeA-00827-00305122-00305271 been specifically talking a lot about 3SFgXUAsdeA-00828-00305272-00305445 governments will still allow 3SFgXUAsdeA-00829-00305446-00305685 international body regulatory bodies and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00830-00305686-00305979 legislation but if you would look at the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00831-00305980-00306138 state of the internet now and some of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00832-00306139-00306318 the agents that are shaping it they're 3SFgXUAsdeA-00833-00306319-00306480 not coming from governments they are not 3SFgXUAsdeA-00834-00306481-00306618 coming from legislation they're coming 3SFgXUAsdeA-00835-00306619-00306867 from Silicon Valley from the internet 3SFgXUAsdeA-00836-00306868-00307086 culture itself I mean many of the goals 3SFgXUAsdeA-00837-00307087-00307383 that they were trying to achieve through 3SFgXUAsdeA-00838-00307384-00307683 the 80s and 90s are already here and if 3SFgXUAsdeA-00839-00307684-00307842 you look at the Internet of the at the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00840-00307843-00308013 state of the internet now I would say 3SFgXUAsdeA-00841-00308014-00308315 that it's hard to say there is any 3SFgXUAsdeA-00842-00308316-00308625 government regulatory body or elder has 3SFgXUAsdeA-00843-00308626-00308946 a more direct influence done and it's a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00844-00308947-00309120 bigger player and has more power in 3SFgXUAsdeA-00845-00309121-00309321 terms of shaping the state of the net 3SFgXUAsdeA-00846-00309322-00309755 for everybody then Google Amazon Apple 3SFgXUAsdeA-00847-00309756-00310098 Facebook and in a way those four players 3SFgXUAsdeA-00848-00310099-00310287 define what the internet is for many 3SFgXUAsdeA-00849-00310288-00310455 many people oh and I wouldn't even care 3SFgXUAsdeA-00850-00310456-00310767 on facebook for very long well that's 3SFgXUAsdeA-00851-00310768-00310932 another things it's like in the wars 3SFgXUAsdeA-00852-00310933-00311076 there's gonna be someone who's gonna be 3SFgXUAsdeA-00853-00311077-00311271 missing and I uh and I'm a little 3SFgXUAsdeA-00854-00311272-00311700 concerned about Apple well it's about 3SFgXUAsdeA-00855-00311701-00311964 but let's imagine actually that sort of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00856-00311965-00312201 the Disco's now it says next time genius 3SFgXUAsdeA-00857-00312202-00312360 is going to be they in turn of the wars 3SFgXUAsdeA-00858-00312361-00312570 and we have this for ages I'm probably 3SFgXUAsdeA-00859-00312571-00312735 or almost should not of then are going 3SFgXUAsdeA-00860-00312736-00312969 to make it and if you look at what is 3SFgXUAsdeA-00861-00312970-00313071 going well for instance now the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00862-00313072-00313245 publishing industry is going to be 3SFgXUAsdeA-00863-00313246-00313482 because of order falls off all the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00864-00313483-00313689 mistakes of everything they did they did 3SFgXUAsdeA-00865-00313690-00313959 wrong completely pushed aside by this 3SFgXUAsdeA-00866-00313960-00314175 giant that is amazon that suddenly so 3SFgXUAsdeA-00867-00314176-00314382 you know what we don't need a publishing 3SFgXUAsdeA-00868-00314383-00314607 industry because we can be every inter 3SFgXUAsdeA-00869-00314608-00314808 mediate that our writer needs to find 3SFgXUAsdeA-00870-00314809-00314991 its audience and i would like to think 3SFgXUAsdeA-00871-00314992-00315162 that we should start taking some of this 3SFgXUAsdeA-00872-00315163-00315426 energy and put it over here because we 3SFgXUAsdeA-00873-00315427-00315642 may end up in a place where he had this 3SFgXUAsdeA-00874-00315643-00315819 internet with everybody could innovate 3SFgXUAsdeA-00875-00315820-00316005 but in the end those everybody were two 3SFgXUAsdeA-00876-00316006-00316566 people right after itunes was created 3SFgXUAsdeA-00877-00316567-00316743 and it was became obvious that it was 3SFgXUAsdeA-00878-00316744-00316991 going to be a success 3SFgXUAsdeA-00879-00316992-00317287 I I had a conversation with steve jobs 3SFgXUAsdeA-00880-00317288-00317648 and I I said you know I've spent the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00881-00317649-00317860 last 15 years trying to kill the large 3SFgXUAsdeA-00882-00317861-00318212 record companies you know only to have 3SFgXUAsdeA-00883-00318213-00318682 you resurrect them as one company why is 3SFgXUAsdeA-00884-00318683-00318880 that better and he said oh well but will 3SFgXUAsdeA-00885-00318881-00319357 evolve I I guess he's out there evolving 3SFgXUAsdeA-00886-00319358-00319876 right now I didn't know it's this is 3SFgXUAsdeA-00887-00319877-00320516 it's difficult I mean Google I knew 3SFgXUAsdeA-00888-00320517-00320672 they'd made a mistake when they did this 3SFgXUAsdeA-00889-00320673-00320951 I knew both of those guys when they 3SFgXUAsdeA-00890-00320952-00321074 still didn't know how they were going to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00891-00321075-00321398 make any money from google I mean I I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00892-00321399-00321602 saw Google as a search engine when it 3SFgXUAsdeA-00893-00321603-00321893 was still in alpha and I said god you 3SFgXUAsdeA-00894-00321894-00322151 know this is amazing this is the Holy 3SFgXUAsdeA-00895-00322152-00322475 Grail how are you going to make money 3SFgXUAsdeA-00896-00322476-00322756 from this and and one of them said we 3SFgXUAsdeA-00897-00322757-00322919 don't know but we're pretty smart will 3SFgXUAsdeA-00898-00322920-00323219 probably figure something out and they 3SFgXUAsdeA-00899-00323220-00323327 were you know and they were not 3SFgXUAsdeA-00900-00323328-00323528 particularly financially motivated and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00901-00323529-00323714 you know they set up this notion of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00902-00323715-00324067 don't be evil they do evil every day now 3SFgXUAsdeA-00903-00324068-00324395 and don't even know it I mean that one 3SFgXUAsdeA-00904-00324396-00324575 of the dangers of a slogan like that is 3SFgXUAsdeA-00905-00324576-00324743 you can be very evil and say well I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00906-00324744-00325129 can't be evil I don't do evil but you're 3SFgXUAsdeA-00907-00325130-00325648 right you know you know for example when 3SFgXUAsdeA-00908-00325649-00326021 WikiLeaks came down one of the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00909-00326022-00326332 terrifying realizations was it wasn't 3SFgXUAsdeA-00910-00326333-00326501 the United States government that was 3SFgXUAsdeA-00911-00326502-00326837 the problem some aslam it was amazon and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00912-00326838-00327028 then it was paypal and then it was visa 3SFgXUAsdeA-00913-00327029-00327235 and then it was mastercard and you 3SFgXUAsdeA-00914-00327236-00327406 couldn't tell them that they had to do 3SFgXUAsdeA-00915-00327407-00327733 something their private businesses you 3SFgXUAsdeA-00916-00327734-00328112 don't have any due process to the extent 3SFgXUAsdeA-00917-00328113-00328277 that you might have any rights you sign 3SFgXUAsdeA-00918-00328278-00328448 them all away when you clicked at the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00919-00328449-00328700 bottom of 47 pages of unreadable prose 3SFgXUAsdeA-00920-00328701-00329185 that you didn't look ever yeah and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00921-00329186-00329399 nevertheless agreed to because otherwise 3SFgXUAsdeA-00922-00329400-00329840 you couldn't start your machine so no 3SFgXUAsdeA-00923-00329841-00330157 it's very problematic 3SFgXUAsdeA-00924-00330158-00330707 you know and it requires it requires you 3SFgXUAsdeA-00925-00330708-00330938 to continually hack open the things that 3SFgXUAsdeA-00926-00330939-00331151 they will try to close on their own best 3SFgXUAsdeA-00927-00331152-00331733 interest you know even though I've had a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00928-00331734-00332033 long and friendly relationship with 3SFgXUAsdeA-00929-00332034-00332332 Apple I mean eff has had to sue apple 3SFgXUAsdeA-00930-00332333-00332651 repeatedly and most most recently over 3SFgXUAsdeA-00931-00332652-00333077 the jailbreaking the iphone which they 3SFgXUAsdeA-00932-00333078-00333332 were claiming was a criminal act that 3SFgXUAsdeA-00933-00333333-00333740 ought to be heavily prosecuted and we we 3SFgXUAsdeA-00934-00333741-00334130 showed that it wasn't in court so the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00935-00334131-00334280 courts are only going to be good for 3SFgXUAsdeA-00936-00334281-00334577 some places what you really got to do is 3SFgXUAsdeA-00937-00334578-00334874 come up with a with technical solutions 3SFgXUAsdeA-00938-00334875-00335090 that make it obvious that what they're 3SFgXUAsdeA-00939-00335091-00335582 trying to do is impractical you've got 3SFgXUAsdeA-00940-00335583-00335762 to hack them open every time they try to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00941-00335763-00336089 close something I know that you'll do 3SFgXUAsdeA-00942-00336090-00336434 that and and don't worry about being the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00943-00336435-00336776 choir don't worry about being a small 3SFgXUAsdeA-00944-00336777-00337028 group of people that keep having a 3SFgXUAsdeA-00945-00337029-00337292 conversation with one another you need 3SFgXUAsdeA-00946-00337293-00337565 that encouragement and you need the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00947-00337566-00337871 technological understanding you know I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00948-00337872-00338003 mean you also need to get out of the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00949-00338004-00338480 basement you know and you know I'm a big 3SFgXUAsdeA-00950-00338481-00338828 fan of discourse with people that don't 3SFgXUAsdeA-00951-00338829-00339080 have good math skills because I'm one of 3SFgXUAsdeA-00952-00339081-00339545 them so you know there has that you have 3SFgXUAsdeA-00953-00339546-00339827 to you have to you have to have a life 3SFgXUAsdeA-00954-00339828-00340055 but I mean you also I wouldn't feel bad 3SFgXUAsdeA-00955-00340056-00340304 about the fact that you've got this this 3SFgXUAsdeA-00956-00340305-00340625 little group that is very tight it needs 3SFgXUAsdeA-00957-00340626-00341675 to be a part of ms de la fila ah si si 3SFgXUAsdeA-00958-00341676-00341915 si patron dank estoy lleno de semana que 3SFgXUAsdeA-00959-00341916-00342260 of a traducir I can do it in both 3SFgXUAsdeA-00960-00342261-00342587 language thank you for your speech they 3SFgXUAsdeA-00961-00342588-00342886 learn a lot about your history and now 3SFgXUAsdeA-00962-00342887-00343301 what are you the wagon on I mean what 3SFgXUAsdeA-00963-00343302-00343409 are you focused 3SFgXUAsdeA-00964-00343410-00344139 in your timing well you know I like to 3SFgXUAsdeA-00965-00344140-00344319 do something completely different every 3SFgXUAsdeA-00966-00344320-00344528 so often I mean I still obviously care 3SFgXUAsdeA-00967-00344529-00344664 about the issues that we're talking 3SFgXUAsdeA-00968-00344665-00344930 about here and and I take a very active 3SFgXUAsdeA-00969-00344931-00345107 role in in the electronic frontier 3SFgXUAsdeA-00970-00345108-00345428 foundation I go around and I talk about 3SFgXUAsdeA-00971-00345429-00345720 these things to people and and and want 3SFgXUAsdeA-00972-00345721-00346301 to but a couple years ago I had a I had 3SFgXUAsdeA-00973-00346302-00346700 been crippled by a spinal degeneration 3SFgXUAsdeA-00974-00346701-00347112 and I was in a wheelchair and I was I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00975-00347113-00347648 was in pain all the time and I didn't I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00976-00347649-00348063 quit thinking about the future and I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00977-00348064-00348363 just I just thought about getting 3SFgXUAsdeA-00978-00348364-00348620 through the next five minutes and 3SFgXUAsdeA-00979-00348621-00348830 suddenly you know I had an operation 3SFgXUAsdeA-00980-00348831-00349004 which was very dangerous but I mean they 3SFgXUAsdeA-00981-00349005-00349373 fixed it and I realized that I had a you 3SFgXUAsdeA-00982-00349374-00349634 know if I would like most of the people 3SFgXUAsdeA-00983-00349635-00349832 in my family I'd live another 30 or 40 3SFgXUAsdeA-00984-00349833-00350463 years and I had a huge future and I that 3SFgXUAsdeA-00985-00350464-00350619 will do I want to go on doing what I've 3SFgXUAsdeA-00986-00350620-00350897 been doing for the last 20 years or do I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00987-00350898-00351069 want to go off and try to solve another 3SFgXUAsdeA-00988-00351070-00351227 problem because I mean there was a time 3SFgXUAsdeA-00989-00351228-00351530 I mean 25 years ago where you know I 3SFgXUAsdeA-00990-00351531-00351690 felt like the internet was one of those 3SFgXUAsdeA-00991-00351691-00351945 things that needed it didn't have very 3SFgXUAsdeA-00992-00351946-00352221 many advocates I was one of the few 3SFgXUAsdeA-00993-00352222-00352510 people that saw how important it was 3SFgXUAsdeA-00994-00352511-00352890 well now I I see the real problem of the 3SFgXUAsdeA-00995-00352891-00353273 human race is that we keep throwing 3SFgXUAsdeA-00996-00353274-00353459 stuff away and making things worse for 3SFgXUAsdeA-00997-00353460-00353753 the whole planet that we need to be 3SFgXUAsdeA-00998-00353754-00354133 recycling into ourselves into the system 3SFgXUAsdeA-00999-00354134-00354447 so i spent the last three years working 3SFgXUAsdeA-01000-00354448-00354618 with some other folks to design a system 3SFgXUAsdeA-01001-00354619-00354827 that takes carbon dioxide out of the 3SFgXUAsdeA-01002-00354828-00355169 atmosphere and recombines it into fuel 3SFgXUAsdeA-01003-00355170-00355542 that's made out of sewage and takes the 3SFgXUAsdeA-01004-00355543-00355689 water that's in the sewage and brings 3SFgXUAsdeA-01005-00355690-00355989 that back on shore so that it can be 3SFgXUAsdeA-01006-00355990-00356378 used and we're just signing a deal with 3SFgXUAsdeA-01007-00356379-00356641 a big Japanese industrial company 3SFgXUAsdeA-01008-00356642-00357078 next week in New York to build a pilot 3SFgXUAsdeA-01009-00357079-00357348 plant to do that but you know it's 3SFgXUAsdeA-01010-00357349-00357663 become an industrialist in my old age 3SFgXUAsdeA-01011-00357664-00357949 having avoided the industrial period all 3SFgXUAsdeA-01012-00357950-00358213 along you know went directly from 3SFgXUAsdeA-01013-00358214-00358485 agriculture to information thinking that 3SFgXUAsdeA-01014-00358486-00358632 the industrial period was the worst 3SFgXUAsdeA-01015-00358633-00358845 thing that ever happened to humanity I 3SFgXUAsdeA-01016-00358846-00359044 recognize that if there's going to be 3SFgXUAsdeA-01017-00359045-00359358 fuel and energy it's going to take an 3SFgXUAsdeA-01018-00359359-00359818 industrial process to do it and I would 3SFgXUAsdeA-01019-00359819-00360078 rather be part of that industrial 3SFgXUAsdeA-01020-00360079-00360258 process than have the old industrialists 3SFgXUAsdeA-01021-00360259-00360533 do it so that's what I'm doing now 3SFgXUAsdeA-01022-00360534-00361963 completely different thanks for that 3SFgXUAsdeA-01023-00361964-00362310 great speech I was wondering as someone 3SFgXUAsdeA-01024-00362311-00362476 who's watched this movement grow from a 3SFgXUAsdeA-01025-00362477-00362607 very early stage literally from its 3SFgXUAsdeA-01026-00362608-00363009 beginnings do you think that it's now at 3SFgXUAsdeA-01027-00363010-00363153 a stage where it's growing fast enough 3SFgXUAsdeA-01028-00363154-00363346 to combat all the challenges that we're 3SFgXUAsdeA-01029-00363347-00363576 seeing with things like actor and 3SFgXUAsdeA-01030-00363577-00363745 legislation that's popping up all over 3SFgXUAsdeA-01031-00363746-00363919 the world to try and control and limit 3SFgXUAsdeA-01032-00363920-00364179 the internet you know the funny thing is 3SFgXUAsdeA-01033-00364180-00364359 that as long as I've been engaged in 3SFgXUAsdeA-01034-00364360-00364835 this it's always felt like a dead heat 3SFgXUAsdeA-01035-00364836-00365103 it's always felt like you know we were 3SFgXUAsdeA-01036-00365104-00365341 right there neck and neck between the 3SFgXUAsdeA-01037-00365342-00365518 forces of liberation and the forces of 3SFgXUAsdeA-01038-00365519-00365791 control and in fact you know if you 3SFgXUAsdeA-01039-00365792-00366142 think about the internet itself it is a 3SFgXUAsdeA-01040-00366143-00366451 very liberating thing but there's never 3SFgXUAsdeA-01041-00366452-00366651 been a better surveillance system 3SFgXUAsdeA-01042-00366652-00367158 devised yet you know as liberating as it 3SFgXUAsdeA-01043-00367159-00367434 can be it's also you know a marvelous 3SFgXUAsdeA-01044-00367435-00367680 system for imposing very rigid controls 3SFgXUAsdeA-01045-00367681-00367999 and you can imagine that you know the 3SFgXUAsdeA-01046-00368000-00368287 people that it's basically comes down to 3SFgXUAsdeA-01047-00368288-00368430 the people that have faith in the people 3SFgXUAsdeA-01048-00368431-00368749 that have fear those are the real two 3SFgXUAsdeA-01049-00368750-00369139 parties in the world the people that bet 3SFgXUAsdeA-01050-00369140-00369378 on the future and the people that have 3SFgXUAsdeA-01051-00369379-00369558 to be dragged kicking and screaming from 3SFgXUAsdeA-01052-00369559-00369752 the past 3SFgXUAsdeA-01053-00369753-00370175 and you know I I think you'll have 3SFgXUAsdeA-01054-00370176-00370541 plenty of good competition all your 3SFgXUAsdeA-01055-00370542-00370793 lives I've certainly been I've had 3SFgXUAsdeA-01056-00370794-00371174 plenty it's great I don't think I don't 3SFgXUAsdeA-01057-00371175-00371339 think that there's the likelihood that 3SFgXUAsdeA-01058-00371340-00371567 either side is going to is going to gain 3SFgXUAsdeA-01059-00371568-00372028 the upper hand anytime soon 3SFgXUAsdeA-01060-00372029-00373107 unfortunately or fortunately 3SFgXUAsdeA-01061-00373108-00373821 alguna portas ms la pregunta caras de 3SFgXUAsdeA-01062-00373822-00374320 hambre y moshi own sin duda el hombre la 3SFgXUAsdeA-01063-00374321-00375360 moshi oh no en esta la fila pero ella 3SFgXUAsdeA-01064-00375361-00376251 fue la de menos uno yeah yeah we're now 3SFgXUAsdeA-01065-00376252-00376422 at this stage where they're trying to 3SFgXUAsdeA-01066-00376423-00376629 control the internet and I would like 3SFgXUAsdeA-01067-00376630-00376987 you to tell us in just one sentence one 3SFgXUAsdeA-01068-00376988-00377215 thing I could tell to my mother to the 3SFgXUAsdeA-01069-00377216-00377416 president of our government and to bill 3SFgXUAsdeA-01070-00377417-00377730 gate on why is important to keep this 3SFgXUAsdeA-01071-00377731-00377989 internet three what could I tell all of 3SFgXUAsdeA-01072-00377990-00378300 them at once give us some kind of slogan 3SFgXUAsdeA-01073-00378301-00378862 or something to work with either you 3SFgXUAsdeA-01074-00378863-00379063 know why it's important to be free or 3SFgXUAsdeA-01075-00379064-00379642 you don't so we have to so we have to 3SFgXUAsdeA-01076-00379643-00379816 change off president enough enough of 3SFgXUAsdeA-01077-00379817-00380044 mother but we have to change you're 3SFgXUAsdeA-01078-00380045-00380188 probably going to change your president 3SFgXUAsdeA-01079-00380189-00380454 for the worse with any luck at all your 3SFgXUAsdeA-01080-00380455-00381705 mother is getting better y Mucha Gracia 3SFgXUAsdeA-01081-00381706-00382033 good luck 3UxeKnv4nao-00000-00000041-00000308 pandanus amarilla Phileas as a tropical 3UxeKnv4nao-00001-00000309-00000557 plant in the pandanus screw pine genus 3UxeKnv4nao-00002-00000558-00000761 which is commonly known as pandan and is 3UxeKnv4nao-00003-00000762-00000977 used widely in South Asian and Southeast 3UxeKnv4nao-00004-00000977-00001632 Asian cooking as a flavoring 3UxeKnv4nao-00005-00001632-00002210 topic botanical features 3UxeKnv4nao-00006-00002211-00002465 the characteristic aroma of pandan is 3UxeKnv4nao-00007-00002466-00002696 caused by the aroma compound to acetyl 3UxeKnv4nao-00008-00002697-00002912 one pura line which may give white bread 3UxeKnv4nao-00009-00002913-00003188 jasmine rice and basmati rice as well as 3UxeKnv4nao-00010-00003189-00003379 bread flours Valera's glabra their 3UxeKnv4nao-00011-00003380-00003647 typical smell the plant is rare in the 3UxeKnv4nao-00012-00003647-00003935 wild but is widely cultivated it is an 3UxeKnv4nao-00013-00003936-00004121 upright green plant with fan-shaped 3UxeKnv4nao-00014-00004122-00004340 sprays of long narrow blade like leaves 3UxeKnv4nao-00015-00004341-00004607 and woody aerial roots the plant is 3UxeKnv4nao-00016-00004608-00004804 sterile with flowers only growing very 3UxeKnv4nao-00017-00004805-00005527 rarely and is propagated by cuttings 3UxeKnv4nao-00018-00005528-00006084 topic culinary use 3UxeKnv4nao-00019-00006085-00006361 in India and Sri Lanka it is called Ram 3UxeKnv4nao-00020-00006362-00006592 pay in Bangladesh it is called pulao 3UxeKnv4nao-00021-00006593-00006813 pata pull out pata and in the Maldives 3UxeKnv4nao-00022-00006814-00007003 it is called ran ba along with the other 3UxeKnv4nao-00023-00007004-00007180 variety of pandan there pandanus 3UxeKnv4nao-00024-00007181-00007405 vesicular s and is used to enhance the 3UxeKnv4nao-00025-00007406-00007633 flavor of pulao biriyani and sweet 3UxeKnv4nao-00026-00007634-00007845 coconut rice pudding or pea chef basmati 3UxeKnv4nao-00027-00007847-00008155 rice is not used it acts as a cheap 3UxeKnv4nao-00028-00008156-00008385 substitute for bhisma d fragrance as one 3UxeKnv4nao-00029-00008386-00008581 can use normal non fragrant rice and 3UxeKnv4nao-00030-00008582-00008742 with pandan the dish tastes and smells 3UxeKnv4nao-00031-00008743-00009049 like bhisma Diaz used the leaves are 3UxeKnv4nao-00032-00009050-00009235 used either fresh or dried and are 3UxeKnv4nao-00033-00009236-00009453 commercially available in frozen form in 3UxeKnv4nao-00034-00009454-00009652 Asian grocery stores of nations where 3UxeKnv4nao-00035-00009653-00009877 the plant does not grow they have a 3UxeKnv4nao-00036-00009878-00010089 nutty botanical fragrance that is used 3UxeKnv4nao-00037-00010090-00010269 as a flavor enhancer in many Asian 3UxeKnv4nao-00038-00010270-00010485 cuisines especially in rice dishes 3UxeKnv4nao-00039-00010486-00010649 desserts and cakes 3UxeKnv4nao-00040-00010650-00010899 the leaves are sometimes steeped in 3UxeKnv4nao-00041-00010900-00011088 coconut milk which is then added to the 3UxeKnv4nao-00042-00011089-00011338 dish they may be tied in a bunch and 3UxeKnv4nao-00043-00011339-00011553 cooked with the food they may be woven 3UxeKnv4nao-00044-00011554-00011785 into a basket which is used as a pot for 3UxeKnv4nao-00045-00011786-00012160 cooking rice pandan chicken Thai thx bye 3UxeKnv4nao-00046-00012161-00012388 take I hope by towing is a dish of 3UxeKnv4nao-00047-00012389-00012568 chicken parts wrapped in pandan leaves 3UxeKnv4nao-00048-00012569-00012849 and fried the leaves are also used as a 3UxeKnv4nao-00049-00012850-00013050 flavoring for desserts such as pandan 3UxeKnv4nao-00050-00013051-00013327 cake and sweet beverages Filipino 3UxeKnv4nao-00051-00013328-00013543 cuisine uses pandan as a flavoring in 3UxeKnv4nao-00052-00013544-00013774 buko pandan fruit salad as well as rice 3UxeKnv4nao-00053-00013775-00013975 based pastries such as suman and 3UxeKnv4nao-00054-00013976-00014140 numerous sweet drinks and desserts 3UxeKnv4nao-00055-00014141-00014371 bottled pandan extract is available in 3UxeKnv4nao-00056-00014372-00014578 shops and often contains green food 3UxeKnv4nao-00057-00014579-00015126 coloring 3UxeKnv4nao-00058-00015127-00015735 topic using traditional medicine 3UxeKnv4nao-00059-00015736-00016008 P amarilla folia sleeves have a number 3UxeKnv4nao-00060-00016009-00016290 of local medicinal uses leaf extracts 3UxeKnv4nao-00061-00016291-00016422 have been thought to reduce fever 3UxeKnv4nao-00062-00016423-00016650 relieve indigestion and flatulence and 3UxeKnv4nao-00063-00016651-00017289 act as a cardio tonic 3UxeKnv4nao-00064-00017290-00017930 topic uses natural air freshener 3UxeKnv4nao-00065-00017931-00018173 the leaves impart a pleasant aroma which 3UxeKnv4nao-00066-00018174-00018440 can act as a natural air freshener they 3UxeKnv4nao-00067-00018441-00018674 are placed into a confined space such as 3UxeKnv4nao-00068-00018675-00018854 a car and left there until they wither 3UxeKnv4nao-00069-00018855-00019118 and dry up 3UYcdaOoICQ-00000-00000000-00000269 you know I really it's been a long time 3UYcdaOoICQ-00001-00000270-00000449 since we've seen a team like go for a 3UYcdaOoICQ-00002-00000450-00000611 five-man smoke wrap around for First 3UYcdaOoICQ-00003-00000612-00000815 Blood it's just every game everyone's 3UYcdaOoICQ-00004-00000816-00000941 just setting up on their own side just 3UYcdaOoICQ-00005-00000942-00001120 want to get the bounties and and go back 3UYcdaOoICQ-00006-00001121-00001319 to Lane no one wants to risk anything 3UYcdaOoICQ-00007-00001320-00001528 yeah they're boring now remember we we 3UYcdaOoICQ-00008-00001529-00001726 don't have the level one Roche that we 3UYcdaOoICQ-00009-00001727-00001889 used to in the old days I don't know if 3UYcdaOoICQ-00010-00001889-00002087 ever approach is even possible to kill 3UYcdaOoICQ-00011-00002088-00002405 level one he's got 20 armor 6 000 Health 3UYcdaOoICQ-00012-00002406-00002741 20 Health regeneration I mean to be fair 3UYcdaOoICQ-00013-00002742-00002963 is early uh abilities they're not great 3UYcdaOoICQ-00014-00002964-00003233 but he's just Ross that's a pretty wild 3UYcdaOoICQ-00015-00003234-00003419 I guess an Ursa could eventually get him 3UYcdaOoICQ-00016-00003420-00003670 down yeah you you did like a whole 3UYcdaOoICQ-00017-00003671-00003922 entire proper five-man draft to try to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00018-00003923-00004067 achieve that objective do you remember 3UYcdaOoICQ-00019-00004068-00004229 when there was that time when people 3UYcdaOoICQ-00020-00004230-00004438 sniped the tier one Tower at zero 3UYcdaOoICQ-00021-00004439-00005035 minutes in 3UYcdaOoICQ-00022-00005036-00005243 pretty quickly but yeah they were able 3UYcdaOoICQ-00023-00005244-00005417 to kill the tier one Tower at zero 3UYcdaOoICQ-00024-00005418-00005585 minutes and then the enemy carry had no 3UYcdaOoICQ-00025-00005586-00005801 room to work with and the game was just 3UYcdaOoICQ-00026-00005802-00005956 pretty much over it was funny to watch 3UYcdaOoICQ-00027-00005957-00006106 but still a little bit of a fight for 3UYcdaOoICQ-00028-00006107-00006365 this Bob Bounty Mac just gonna take a 3UYcdaOoICQ-00029-00006366-00006556 couple of slaps in the face and uh they 3UYcdaOoICQ-00030-00006558-00006719 used to walk off we'll be two on the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00031-00006720-00006809 split 3UYcdaOoICQ-00032-00006809-00006923 I don't think you can actually bring 3UYcdaOoICQ-00033-00006923-00007156 down Towers now before the timer right 3UYcdaOoICQ-00034-00007158-00007264 because they don't even have a health 3UYcdaOoICQ-00035-00007265-00007498 pool at this point yeah they they made 3UYcdaOoICQ-00036-00007500-00007660 that change because that happened and 3UYcdaOoICQ-00037-00007661-00007792 they were like okay no we can't allow 3UYcdaOoICQ-00038-00007793-00007984 this and yeah they had to patch it as a 3UYcdaOoICQ-00039-00007986-00008170 response it was it was it was 3UYcdaOoICQ-00040-00008172-00008435 funny though it was amazing to see 3UYcdaOoICQ-00041-00008436-00008657 depends on which side of it you are 3UYcdaOoICQ-00042-00008658-00008903 right here it's like oh it's a lot of 3UYcdaOoICQ-00043-00008904-00009196 fun I'm like yeah you say so uh Zephyr 3UYcdaOoICQ-00044-00009197-00009503 gets illuminate CML Dodges it quite 3UYcdaOoICQ-00045-00009504-00009599 easily 3UYcdaOoICQ-00046-00009600-00009773 all right so bomb Lane it is going to be 3UYcdaOoICQ-00047-00009774-00009971 the Night Stalker as well as the keeper 3UYcdaOoICQ-00048-00009972-00010228 of light versus the pogna and the and 3UYcdaOoICQ-00049-00010229-00010535 the Akashi is more fling so it looks 3UYcdaOoICQ-00050-00010536-00010685 like it's gonna have a decent time here 3UYcdaOoICQ-00051-00010686-00010883 you can say a lot of things about coddle 3UYcdaOoICQ-00052-00010884-00011074 but in terms of trading right clicks he 3UYcdaOoICQ-00053-00011075-00011267 is definitely one of the worst yeah 3UYcdaOoICQ-00054-00011268-00011417 definitely heavily relies on the old 3UYcdaOoICQ-00055-00011418-00011710 illuminate spam to get his uh work done 3UYcdaOoICQ-00056-00011711-00011909 unfortunately even the cash was just 3UYcdaOoICQ-00057-00011910-00012028 able to get that denial before the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00058-00012029-00012209 illuminate came through so I couldn't 3UYcdaOoICQ-00059-00012210-00012377 really accomplish what he wanted to do 3UYcdaOoICQ-00060-00012378-00012623 there very unfortunate for him 3UYcdaOoICQ-00061-00012624-00012922 and mid lane it's going to be the tiny 3UYcdaOoICQ-00062-00012923-00013108 versus the Ember Mac already has that 3UYcdaOoICQ-00063-00013109-00013229 one point in three grab gonna get 3UYcdaOoICQ-00064-00013230-00013427 another three for himself here and 3UYcdaOoICQ-00065-00013428-00013558 that's going to be helping him get those 3UYcdaOoICQ-00066-00013559-00013703 knives off probably gonna try to deny 3UYcdaOoICQ-00067-00013704-00014027 that range creep if he can and oh still 3UYcdaOoICQ-00068-00014028-00014207 can't get the melee doesn't even get the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00069-00014208-00014416 range either your part he is really good 3UYcdaOoICQ-00070-00014418-00014561 and he's got that point in flame guard 3UYcdaOoICQ-00071-00014562-00014794 which means that while Mac is trying to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00072-00014795-00014951 get those denies off he's taking a lot 3UYcdaOoICQ-00073-00014952-00015166 of burn damage it's 25 damage it's level 3UYcdaOoICQ-00074-00015168-00015365 one yeah so it's pretty it's pretty 3UYcdaOoICQ-00075-00015366-00015599 substantial actually yeah it is really 3UYcdaOoICQ-00076-00015600-00015766 good yeah I would say normally you do 3UYcdaOoICQ-00077-00015768-00015941 see a Tani just winning that harass war 3UYcdaOoICQ-00078-00015941-00016108 in the early Parts but you pass just 3UYcdaOoICQ-00079-00016109-00016288 played it perfectly right now really 3UYcdaOoICQ-00080-00016290-00016463 knows what he can do it it is shared 3UYcdaOoICQ-00081-00016464-00016613 about why he is this a very highly 3UYcdaOoICQ-00082-00016614-00016757 prioritized mid lane I mean well up top 3UYcdaOoICQ-00083-00016758-00016972 Jing in some danger the snowball is 3UYcdaOoICQ-00084-00016973-00017111 there from Bok to make the space but 3UYcdaOoICQ-00085-00017112-00017380 it's just about time he thought he could 3UYcdaOoICQ-00086-00017381-00017561 like Juke him out but unfortunately 3UYcdaOoICQ-00087-00017562-00017908 natsumi gets the first Blood 3UYcdaOoICQ-00088-00017909-00018125 I'm I like that we were seeing Mirana 3UYcdaOoICQ-00089-00018126-00018365 evolve from the level one sacred Arrow 3UYcdaOoICQ-00090-00018366-00018508 you know we're seeing her take a 3UYcdaOoICQ-00091-00018509-00018700 different skills but uh sometimes you 3UYcdaOoICQ-00092-00018701-00018857 get punished for it and you know if you 3UYcdaOoICQ-00093-00018858-00018977 see the stars from there you know she 3UYcdaOoICQ-00094-00018978-00019133 doesn't have Arrow so you know she 3UYcdaOoICQ-00095-00019134-00019253 doesn't have leap to escape she's not 3UYcdaOoICQ-00096-00019254-00019408 using Arrow to get those big creeps and 3UYcdaOoICQ-00097-00019409-00019636 she is level one in two minutes in so 3UYcdaOoICQ-00098-00019637-00019817 she could have farmed a couple of creeps 3UYcdaOoICQ-00099-00019818-00019955 in the jungle with a sacred Arrow could 3UYcdaOoICQ-00100-00019956-00020080 have even secured the range creep for 3UYcdaOoICQ-00101-00020081-00020243 herself 3UYcdaOoICQ-00102-00020244-00020579 yeah I guess I guess the build is to try 3UYcdaOoICQ-00103-00020580-00020717 and counter the harassment coming out 3UYcdaOoICQ-00104-00020718-00021005 from the Rubik I would assume but it 3UYcdaOoICQ-00105-00021006-00021197 clearly does not end up in a didn't pay 3UYcdaOoICQ-00106-00021198-00021407 itself off in that time 3UYcdaOoICQ-00107-00021408-00021641 even though it's very tough like Ruby 3UYcdaOoICQ-00108-00021642-00021791 this is the reason why Rubik is one of 3UYcdaOoICQ-00109-00021792-00021994 those positions Forces high prices his 3UYcdaOoICQ-00110-00021995-00022180 stats are pretty absurd right he's got 3UYcdaOoICQ-00111-00022181-00022433 60 base damage uh he starts off with a 3UYcdaOoICQ-00112-00022434-00022625 ton of armor of course you know he's got 3UYcdaOoICQ-00113-00022626-00022757 a little bit inflated thanks to the iron 3UYcdaOoICQ-00114-00022758-00022991 Branch but still he does have pretty 3UYcdaOoICQ-00115-00022992-00023255 massive stats and he gets as well this 3UYcdaOoICQ-00116-00023256-00023500 uh Century Ward removed say FBC is 3UYcdaOoICQ-00117-00023501-00023627 almost out of the ball yeah he's getting 3UYcdaOoICQ-00118-00023628-00023800 punished very hard CMO trying to get 3UYcdaOoICQ-00119-00023801-00023950 some body blocks in but still won't 3UYcdaOoICQ-00120-00023951-00024208 bring down the Night Stalker but good 3UYcdaOoICQ-00121-00024209-00024358 amount of harass damage could force to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00122-00024359-00024593 use up those tankers did uh make him use 3UYcdaOoICQ-00123-00024594-00024869 his stick charges as well 3UYcdaOoICQ-00124-00024870-00025133 it's all too bad 3UYcdaOoICQ-00125-00025134-00025325 I mean it's a Night Stalker during the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00126-00025326-00025492 day up against two range Heroes he's 3UYcdaOoICQ-00127-00025493-00025637 definitely gonna be taking some hits and 3UYcdaOoICQ-00128-00025638-00025811 he's still doing fine he's got the same 3UYcdaOoICQ-00129-00025812-00026111 CS as Akashi on the morphling and uh 3UYcdaOoICQ-00130-00026112-00026231 this is gonna be an issue for the more 3UYcdaOoICQ-00131-00026232-00026387 things that you can't go too much edgy 3UYcdaOoICQ-00132-00026388-00026507 as you'd like just because the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00133-00026508-00026729 illuminate followed by a void could do a 3UYcdaOoICQ-00134-00026730-00026890 huge amount of damage to you and CML 3UYcdaOoICQ-00135-00026891-00027305 he's feeling it as well 3UYcdaOoICQ-00136-00027306-00027520 yeah overall 3UYcdaOoICQ-00137-00027522-00027731 a relatively timely stage I didn't think 3UYcdaOoICQ-00138-00027732-00027952 I mean we have one kill coming out here 3UYcdaOoICQ-00139-00027954-00028187 for boomi sports but it does feel like 3UYcdaOoICQ-00140-00028188-00028402 now that once Jing has a leap which he 3UYcdaOoICQ-00141-00028404-00028589 could take if he wants right now he's 3UYcdaOoICQ-00142-00028589-00028745 just gonna be fine does feel like it's 3UYcdaOoICQ-00143-00028745-00028973 gonna be pretty hard for kills to come 3UYcdaOoICQ-00144-00028974-00029158 out for until the mid lanes are about 3UYcdaOoICQ-00145-00029160-00029302 level six 3UYcdaOoICQ-00146-00029304-00029524 yeah it definitely it is still very even 3UYcdaOoICQ-00147-00029525-00029801 in this we're 21 and 4 to Max at 21-2 3UYcdaOoICQ-00148-00029802-00030070 they're of your part so still no one 3UYcdaOoICQ-00149-00030072-00030383 really putting out ahead as of yet 3UYcdaOoICQ-00150-00030383-00030568 um the British from the supports just to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00151-00030569-00030779 secure the first water runes there 3UYcdaOoICQ-00152-00030780-00031055 denies any regen coming up from Matt you 3UYcdaOoICQ-00153-00031056-00031199 know we'll see if your part is going to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00154-00031200-00031331 be able to use that to his advantage and 3UYcdaOoICQ-00155-00031332-00031727 Bully out is Tiny 3UYcdaOoICQ-00156-00031727-00031877 hey that's the thing about tiny mid 3UYcdaOoICQ-00157-00031877-00032057 right it's very durable it's hard to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00158-00032058-00032237 bring him down I don't I don't think 3UYcdaOoICQ-00159-00032238-00032429 Denver spreads the hero to go for I 3UYcdaOoICQ-00160-00032430-00032561 might need to consider taking growth 3UYcdaOoICQ-00161-00032562-00032687 he's going to lean longer though that 3UYcdaOoICQ-00162-00032688-00032993 Zero armor against lighter fist really 3UYcdaOoICQ-00163-00032994-00033209 hurts like it actually does a number on 3UYcdaOoICQ-00164-00033210-00033485 the tiny yeah it doesn't take long for 3UYcdaOoICQ-00165-00033486-00033652 it Stacks up especially now slight fist 3UYcdaOoICQ-00166-00033653-00033923 now level three it's gonna be uh yeah 3UYcdaOoICQ-00167-00033924-00034085 it's gonna be quite nasty for Max to try 3UYcdaOoICQ-00168-00034086-00034301 and standards ground and it as well like 3UYcdaOoICQ-00169-00034302-00034487 a lot of the sort of burst harassment 3UYcdaOoICQ-00170-00034488-00034696 damage that a tiny brings is all magical 3UYcdaOoICQ-00171-00034697-00034912 and yopods realizing that just putting 3UYcdaOoICQ-00172-00034913-00035087 you know all of his secondary points in 3UYcdaOoICQ-00173-00035088-00035285 towards flame guard it's just gonna 3UYcdaOoICQ-00174-00035286-00035743 really help him win this harassment 3UYcdaOoICQ-00175-00035744-00035987 he knows this matchup better than anyone 3UYcdaOoICQ-00176-00035988-00036262 he had he is one of the stars in the mid 3UYcdaOoICQ-00177-00036263-00036449 laner I actually I got an interview him 3UYcdaOoICQ-00178-00036450-00036665 once and uh he's a very nice guy you 3UYcdaOoICQ-00179-00036666-00036809 know he was able to he answered a lot of 3UYcdaOoICQ-00180-00036810-00037007 my questions giving me like what what 3UYcdaOoICQ-00181-00037008-00037139 like the way he plays and everything 3UYcdaOoICQ-00182-00037140-00037415 like that uh Top Lane box taking some 3UYcdaOoICQ-00183-00037416-00037577 damage but I think he's gonna walk out 3UYcdaOoICQ-00184-00037578-00037787 through oh or maybe not they'll take 3UYcdaOoICQ-00185-00037788-00037924 Kinesis body box coming in from the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00186-00037925-00038140 Illusions unfortunately natsui couldn't 3UYcdaOoICQ-00187-00038141-00038411 quite get the uh the full Block in 3UYcdaOoICQ-00188-00038412-00038645 and yeah able to walk himself out there 3UYcdaOoICQ-00189-00038646-00038765 but still he did take a lot of damage 3UYcdaOoICQ-00190-00038766-00038980 for that and he's got to be careful like 3UYcdaOoICQ-00191-00038981-00039215 it just shows as soon as boom sees the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00192-00039216-00039389 fact that Jing has stepped out they just 3UYcdaOoICQ-00193-00039390-00039605 go right away on top of the Tusk and 3UYcdaOoICQ-00194-00039606-00039767 really try and yeah win that two versus 3UYcdaOoICQ-00195-00039768-00039905 one situation 3UYcdaOoICQ-00196-00039906-00040067 I mean even Jing's got to be careful you 3UYcdaOoICQ-00197-00040068-00040349 know you can't get burst down to pensive 3UYcdaOoICQ-00198-00040350-00040487 I mean that's if he's got the one point 3UYcdaOoICQ-00199-00040488-00040696 into in snare 3UYcdaOoICQ-00200-00040697-00040907 I love that I would burst him 3UYcdaOoICQ-00201-00040908-00041146 I love that I feel like when we see no 3UYcdaOoICQ-00202-00041147-00041309 Naga Simon doesn't say I feel like 3UYcdaOoICQ-00203-00041310-00041435 that's very greedy it's like I gotta win 3UYcdaOoICQ-00204-00041436-00041596 the league but again if you can get one 3UYcdaOoICQ-00205-00041597-00041789 kill with it or even just harass it I 3UYcdaOoICQ-00206-00041790-00041933 mean that's that's really good it's not 3UYcdaOoICQ-00207-00041934-00042052 just about accelerating your own Farm 3UYcdaOoICQ-00208-00042053-00042257 it's about getting more and your spots 3UYcdaOoICQ-00209-00042258-00042467 there's no room but Jin gets it instead 3UYcdaOoICQ-00210-00042468-00042683 a nice little snatch away there 3UYcdaOoICQ-00211-00042684-00042851 definitely going to help out his uh mid 3UYcdaOoICQ-00212-00042852-00043018 laner quite a lot now that both of them 3UYcdaOoICQ-00213-00043019-00043271 have the level zero on the bottles but 3UYcdaOoICQ-00214-00043272-00043855 wow fbz just got solo killed onto Akashi 3UYcdaOoICQ-00215-00043856-00044057 there's no silence yeah he's got level 3UYcdaOoICQ-00216-00044058-00044218 two what 3UYcdaOoICQ-00217-00044219-00044411 ah 3UYcdaOoICQ-00218-00044412-00044699 full algae I told you this is why I 3UYcdaOoICQ-00219-00044700-00044890 don't like more fling man I've I've 3UYcdaOoICQ-00220-00044891-00045058 always seen KK players always 3UYcdaOoICQ-00221-00045059-00045262 overestimate their I don't know their 3UYcdaOoICQ-00222-00045263-00045424 ability to morph or something they just 3UYcdaOoICQ-00223-00045425-00045695 go full algae he's not it's it's just so 3UYcdaOoICQ-00224-00045696-00045845 risky he's only got two points in the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00225-00045846-00046061 morph enemy Mac he's in trouble 3UYcdaOoICQ-00226-00046062-00046246 oh there he is missed that one but Mac 3UYcdaOoICQ-00227-00046247-00046433 does get brought down rotation for both 3UYcdaOoICQ-00228-00046434-00046571 the two supports on the side of Boom 3UYcdaOoICQ-00229-00046572-00046823 bring the numbers take him out and uh 3UYcdaOoICQ-00230-00046824-00046955 you're gonna try and do some damage here 3UYcdaOoICQ-00231-00046956-00047171 to tier one the cap although did just 3UYcdaOoICQ-00232-00047172-00047387 get killed from Jing so at least with 3UYcdaOoICQ-00233-00047388-00047543 that down I'm just gonna take a little 3UYcdaOoICQ-00234-00047544-00047693 bit of extra time before this tier one 3UYcdaOoICQ-00235-00047694-00047896 does drop but with the help 3UYcdaOoICQ-00236-00047897-00048185 of CML might be able to push push your 3UYcdaOoICQ-00237-00048186-00048355 Purge off 3UYcdaOoICQ-00238-00048356-00048665 You Again by the way and all the size 3UYcdaOoICQ-00239-00048666-00048857 comes out but no he gets the morph off 3UYcdaOoICQ-00240-00048858-00049102 lucky for him because there is a zephyr 3UYcdaOoICQ-00241-00049103-00049252 right there yeah that could have been 3UYcdaOoICQ-00242-00049253-00049451 big two deaths in a row there for the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00243-00049452-00049565 morphin that would have been his TP on 3UYcdaOoICQ-00244-00049566-00049768 cooldown as well would have just been a 3UYcdaOoICQ-00245-00049769-00049936 huge huge punish 3UYcdaOoICQ-00246-00049937-00050080 fortunate enough not going to fall prey 3UYcdaOoICQ-00247-00050081-00050345 to that now but even still so solid 1K 3UYcdaOoICQ-00248-00050346-00050662 gold lead at the moment for boomi sports 3UYcdaOoICQ-00249-00050663-00050855 um all three cores at top of the net 3UYcdaOoICQ-00250-00050856-00050927 worth 3UYcdaOoICQ-00251-00050928-00051190 they're feeling comfortable 3UYcdaOoICQ-00252-00051191-00051430 definitely and the dev Stacks they have 3UYcdaOoICQ-00253-00051432-00051664 a small stack coming out here Zephyr is 3UYcdaOoICQ-00254-00051665-00051851 helping you apart from it I say that but 3UYcdaOoICQ-00255-00051852-00051958 he's actually getting a few of the big 3UYcdaOoICQ-00256-00051959-00052144 creeps himself and he's like look you're 3UYcdaOoICQ-00257-00052145-00052408 a patch I'm helping oops I got another 3UYcdaOoICQ-00258-00052409-00052726 one sorry bro not my fault I'm you know 3UYcdaOoICQ-00259-00052727-00052913 maxed out to illuminate and charged it 3UYcdaOoICQ-00260-00052914-00053009 fully 3UYcdaOoICQ-00261-00053010-00053273 uh just the power of coal yeah commit 3UYcdaOoICQ-00262-00053274-00053435 the ultimate there unfortunately for FBC 3UYcdaOoICQ-00263-00053436-00053663 semi had already started backing on out 3UYcdaOoICQ-00264-00053664-00053903 so kind of a wasted Alma at this point 3UYcdaOoICQ-00265-00053904-00054047 doesn't look they're gonna be able to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00266-00054048-00054238 get much out of him which I say that and 3UYcdaOoICQ-00267-00054239-00054407 they're still coming over right now but 3UYcdaOoICQ-00268-00054408-00054526 Polaris make it the read they're like 3UYcdaOoICQ-00269-00054527-00054671 right okay we know which side the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00270-00054672-00054850 nightstalk is on just run the complete 3UYcdaOoICQ-00271-00054851-00055013 opposite direction wait for this 3UYcdaOoICQ-00272-00055014-00055144 ultimate to end then maybe we can make 3UYcdaOoICQ-00273-00055145-00055253 something happen 3UYcdaOoICQ-00274-00055254-00055516 and uh although the Ping was for boom to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00275-00055517-00055661 head down towards the Northland but he 3UYcdaOoICQ-00276-00055662-00055907 does manage to fall back in time 3UYcdaOoICQ-00277-00055908-00056153 and uh yeah this is it's also really 3UYcdaOoICQ-00278-00056154-00056291 good because they had the wards right 3UYcdaOoICQ-00279-00056291-00056494 there so it works out like they saw it 3UYcdaOoICQ-00280-00056495-00056776 coming from a mile away and boom they're 3UYcdaOoICQ-00281-00056777-00056944 fine with the pace of the game right you 3UYcdaOoICQ-00282-00056945-00057154 have the you have great scaling coming 3UYcdaOoICQ-00283-00057155-00057359 out from the Naga Cyrus certainly I 3UYcdaOoICQ-00284-00057360-00057550 think at least as good as the more 3UYcdaOoICQ-00285-00057551-00057688 player I say better honestly but at 3UYcdaOoICQ-00286-00057689-00057880 least as good as the morphling and you 3UYcdaOoICQ-00287-00057882-00058013 have uh you're up against the Tusk who 3UYcdaOoICQ-00288-00058014-00058271 Falls OH a tiny could scale really well 3UYcdaOoICQ-00289-00058272-00058438 into the late game but at least your 3UYcdaOoICQ-00290-00058439-00058642 apology is handling him for now so you 3UYcdaOoICQ-00291-00058644-00058804 have three cores that can go well late 3UYcdaOoICQ-00292-00058805-00059015 game versus at least two of the course 3UYcdaOoICQ-00293-00059016-00059315 on Polaris who could go pretty well 3UYcdaOoICQ-00294-00059316-00059638 yeah okay then we got this uh invis room 3UYcdaOoICQ-00295-00059639-00059830 here in the hands of Mac gonna move into 3UYcdaOoICQ-00296-00059832-00059957 the jungle your parts are gonna get 3UYcdaOoICQ-00297-00059958-00060142 caught from here no detection to see 3UYcdaOoICQ-00298-00060144-00060388 this coming and down he goes yoppage 3UYcdaOoICQ-00299-00060389-00060592 that's a very very nice kill to find 3UYcdaOoICQ-00300-00060594-00060766 especially since Mac also got the kill 3UYcdaOoICQ-00301-00060767-00060899 credit 3UYcdaOoICQ-00302-00060900-00061073 and uh your party already has the same 3UYcdaOoICQ-00303-00061074-00061247 amount of death that he had in game one 3UYcdaOoICQ-00304-00061248-00061450 you know it's like oh 3UYcdaOoICQ-00305-00061451-00061625 definitely he's not he's definitely not 3UYcdaOoICQ-00306-00061626-00061732 after the theme song but he's still 3UYcdaOoICQ-00307-00061733-00061919 taking the highest net worth and Mac 3UYcdaOoICQ-00308-00061920-00062075 where is he on the blink dag all right 3UYcdaOoICQ-00309-00062076-00062261 so he went back for the power threads 3UYcdaOoICQ-00310-00062262-00062465 has the magic wand infused right now he 3UYcdaOoICQ-00311-00062466-00062638 went for a lot of these early good stats 3UYcdaOoICQ-00312-00062639-00062885 some Modern region it's very helpful but 3UYcdaOoICQ-00313-00062886-00063100 it does delay his link Dagger by by a 3UYcdaOoICQ-00314-00063101-00063257 little bit interesting sometimes we see 3UYcdaOoICQ-00315-00063258-00063442 them go Face boots after with the echo 3UYcdaOoICQ-00316-00063444-00063676 saber but he went for the power Choice 3UYcdaOoICQ-00317-00063677-00063899 oh another attempt oh another arrow yes 3UYcdaOoICQ-00318-00063900-00064054 perfectly sub you're passing some real 3UYcdaOoICQ-00319-00064055-00064216 danger right now still alive for now and 3UYcdaOoICQ-00320-00064217-00064385 will be able to get the fire Remnant 3UYcdaOoICQ-00321-00064386-00064625 away it does take a lot of beating for 3UYcdaOoICQ-00322-00064626-00064811 it though but hey he's got the shovel so 3UYcdaOoICQ-00323-00064812-00065003 he got a free South he's happy about 3UYcdaOoICQ-00324-00065004-00065111 that 3UYcdaOoICQ-00325-00065112-00065435 hmm it's uh you I mean took out a lot of 3UYcdaOoICQ-00326-00065436-00065650 I've seen my bomb Lane though uh Kashi 3UYcdaOoICQ-00327-00065651-00065867 it's gonna be all right so the push 3UYcdaOoICQ-00328-00065868-00066011 actually gets him out of range of the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00329-00066012-00066149 Avalanche 3UYcdaOoICQ-00330-00066150-00066359 that's pretty unfortunate that I'm sorry 3UYcdaOoICQ-00331-00066360-00066556 zepha's quite happy about that 3UYcdaOoICQ-00332-00066557-00066700 it was still you know another failed 3UYcdaOoICQ-00333-00066701-00066826 gank there on towards the Northland 3UYcdaOoICQ-00334-00066827-00067013 trying to give him space but he's still 3UYcdaOoICQ-00335-00067014-00067247 lagging behind but in all honestly 3UYcdaOoICQ-00336-00067248-00067432 there's not that much gold separating 3UYcdaOoICQ-00337-00067433-00067619 the bottom and top Farm core literally 3UYcdaOoICQ-00338-00067620-00067931 600. so it does feel very neck and neck 3UYcdaOoICQ-00339-00067932-00068099 this game could go either way 3UYcdaOoICQ-00340-00068100-00068291 yeah it's not like it's uh some 3UYcdaOoICQ-00341-00068292-00068482 overwhelming Advantage for booming 3UYcdaOoICQ-00342-00068483-00068591 Sports 3UYcdaOoICQ-00343-00068592-00068794 um and Polaris you do feel like they're 3UYcdaOoICQ-00344-00068795-00069041 still sort of getting into gear they're 3UYcdaOoICQ-00345-00069042-00069293 not fully online yet and we'll see that 3UYcdaOoICQ-00346-00069294-00069455 once Bach is ready to make rotations 3UYcdaOoICQ-00347-00069456-00069647 he's going to go for the mech build I 3UYcdaOoICQ-00348-00069648-00069815 know and I don't know I just don't like 3UYcdaOoICQ-00349-00069816-00069965 when I see a mega build on the tempo 3UYcdaOoICQ-00350-00069966-00070205 control hero it seems like you're not 3UYcdaOoICQ-00351-00070206-00070355 taking full advantage of your early game 3UYcdaOoICQ-00352-00070356-00070511 damage 3UYcdaOoICQ-00353-00070512-00070669 oh Arrow 3UYcdaOoICQ-00354-00070670-00070900 I think he actually purposely take that 3UYcdaOoICQ-00355-00070901-00071093 to keep the Catapult alive they really 3UYcdaOoICQ-00356-00071094-00071225 want to try and take down this Tower if 3UYcdaOoICQ-00357-00071226-00071506 they can with this way but Polaris I'll 3UYcdaOoICQ-00358-00071507-00071687 bring the numbers so three versus three 3UYcdaOoICQ-00359-00071688-00071843 right now 3UYcdaOoICQ-00360-00071844-00072023 and then see if anyone's gonna step out 3UYcdaOoICQ-00361-00072024-00072209 shackles getting the connection the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00362-00072210-00072323 limit that's actually land but even 3UYcdaOoICQ-00363-00072324-00072485 still X and over does take a bit of a 3UYcdaOoICQ-00364-00072486-00072737 whack and finally boom will decide to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00365-00072738-00072844 back on out 3UYcdaOoICQ-00366-00072845-00073061 or will they yes they will I'm sure if 3UYcdaOoICQ-00367-00073062-00073247 we had if we had an interview with X and 3UYcdaOoICQ-00368-00073248-00073373 over he said yeah I was I was keeping 3UYcdaOoICQ-00369-00073374-00073594 the Catapult alive didn't you uh didn't 3UYcdaOoICQ-00370-00073595-00073799 you see what I was doing like yep if you 3UYcdaOoICQ-00371-00073800-00074026 uh sure I mean yeah and that might have 3UYcdaOoICQ-00372-00074027-00074188 actually been what was going on for him 3UYcdaOoICQ-00373-00074189-00074429 FBC has been fairly quiet he's got one 3UYcdaOoICQ-00374-00074430-00074656 kill on The Night Stalker and that's 3UYcdaOoICQ-00375-00074657-00074819 about it to be fair it's not a high kill 3UYcdaOoICQ-00376-00074820-00075017 game but uh he's definitely not like 3UYcdaOoICQ-00377-00075018-00075293 forcing the issue no yeah that's 3UYcdaOoICQ-00378-00075294-00075499 probably that one kill that he had was 3UYcdaOoICQ-00379-00075500-00075767 uh no silent solo kill ones were 3UYcdaOoICQ-00380-00075768-00075994 morphling which is uh you know pretty 3UYcdaOoICQ-00381-00075995-00076241 impressive as it is but yeah I'm sure 3UYcdaOoICQ-00382-00076242-00076367 we'd like a couple more if you possibly 3UYcdaOoICQ-00383-00076368-00076523 can obviously he has his ultimate back 3UYcdaOoICQ-00384-00076524-00076732 off for cooldown so if boom did want to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00385-00076733-00076937 try and force some sort of fight he's 3UYcdaOoICQ-00386-00076938-00077099 definitely more than willing to get 3UYcdaOoICQ-00387-00077100-00077381 involved uh and yeah he's relatively 3UYcdaOoICQ-00388-00077382-00077561 close now to this Blake just 800 gold 3UYcdaOoICQ-00389-00077562-00077759 and then he can really start making the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00390-00077760-00078031 more things life miserable 3UYcdaOoICQ-00391-00078032-00078269 that'll be the point when Akashi starts 3UYcdaOoICQ-00392-00078270-00078491 getting a little bit worried he isn't he 3UYcdaOoICQ-00393-00078492-00078635 doesn't have the mental stuff either I 3UYcdaOoICQ-00394-00078636-00078737 mean you could use that sometimes to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00395-00078738-00078923 split you send H1 a different direction 3UYcdaOoICQ-00396-00078924-00079138 you let the Night Stalker be like okay 3UYcdaOoICQ-00397-00079139-00079343 I'm gonna guess which one it is notice 3UYcdaOoICQ-00398-00079344-00079565 you have a bkb coming out soon so it 3UYcdaOoICQ-00399-00079566-00079744 does feel like it should be relatively 3UYcdaOoICQ-00400-00079745-00079900 easy for RPG to be on top of him he does 3UYcdaOoICQ-00401-00079901-00080056 get the tower and now he's getting very 3UYcdaOoICQ-00402-00080057-00080285 close to the link dagger 3UYcdaOoICQ-00403-00080286-00080500 yeah it's a pretty nice start for him 3UYcdaOoICQ-00404-00080501-00080632 see if they're gonna be able to carry on 3UYcdaOoICQ-00405-00080633-00080806 this lead or not I mean the net worth is 3UYcdaOoICQ-00406-00080807-00081047 just steadily increasing here into the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00407-00081048-00081256 favor of Boom Esports so minute by 3UYcdaOoICQ-00408-00081257-00081761 minute they are pulling ahead 3UYcdaOoICQ-00409-00081762-00081965 I mean some danger with Polaris not 3UYcdaOoICQ-00410-00081966-00082097 choosing to ever extend it will fall 3UYcdaOoICQ-00411-00082098-00082300 back regardless they've already taken 3UYcdaOoICQ-00412-00082301-00082547 down that Tower themselves 3UYcdaOoICQ-00413-00082548-00082744 this is scary this is getting very scary 3UYcdaOoICQ-00414-00082745-00082925 for Polaris like nothing is happening 3UYcdaOoICQ-00415-00082926-00083171 but boomis was just like we said I saw 3UYcdaOoICQ-00416-00083172-00083344 the tundra do this yesterday just keep 3UYcdaOoICQ-00417-00083345-00083506 out farming derivative and then you take 3UYcdaOoICQ-00418-00083507-00083831 the fight Mac yeah I think the shackles 3UYcdaOoICQ-00419-00083832-00083926 was actually a little bit off the mark 3UYcdaOoICQ-00420-00083927-00084047 there for yopods you can get the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00421-00084048-00084191 lockdown but regardless FPC is still 3UYcdaOoICQ-00422-00084192-00084394 coming on in right now tying it in some 3UYcdaOoICQ-00423-00084395-00084599 danger right click's coming in the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00424-00084600-00084785 science is also on top of him but still 3UYcdaOoICQ-00425-00084786-00084929 the rest of them not quite able to get 3UYcdaOoICQ-00426-00084930-00085067 on top him that quickly it's a tanky 3UYcdaOoICQ-00427-00085068-00085282 tanky man this tiny an elf the potential 3UYcdaOoICQ-00428-00085283-00085462 turnaround illuminate comes through Max 3UYcdaOoICQ-00429-00085463-00085667 still alive just barely but finally 3UYcdaOoICQ-00430-00085668-00085823 we'll get brought down and they'll see 3UYcdaOoICQ-00431-00085824-00085961 Mountain soon got to be careful these 3UYcdaOoICQ-00432-00085962-00086153 right clicks will end up stacking pretty 3UYcdaOoICQ-00433-00086154-00086285 quickly right now 3UYcdaOoICQ-00434-00086286-00086512 I wrote through the middle not landing 3UYcdaOoICQ-00435-00086513-00086699 on 21 but still another steering 3UYcdaOoICQ-00436-00086700-00086921 chains on towards Bach he's underneath 3UYcdaOoICQ-00437-00086922-00087076 the tier one Tower snowball going on 3UYcdaOoICQ-00438-00087077-00087209 towards the Ember Spirit wants to run 3UYcdaOoICQ-00439-00087210-00087425 away as fast as he possibly can the FBC 3UYcdaOoICQ-00440-00087426-00087599 is night time is over the Hill's coming 3UYcdaOoICQ-00441-00087600-00087935 in Arrow does connect one final slow 3UYcdaOoICQ-00442-00087936-00088109 fist brings him down by Akashi now 3UYcdaOoICQ-00443-00088110-00088391 getting involved but it looks like boom 3UYcdaOoICQ-00444-00088392-00088637 they will back on out 3UYcdaOoICQ-00445-00088638-00088967 oh that's what two core kills on Mac as 3UYcdaOoICQ-00446-00088968-00089081 well these are the guys who are supposed 3UYcdaOoICQ-00447-00089082-00089273 to be making space for your team and 3UYcdaOoICQ-00448-00089274-00089465 movies was hunting them down thinking 3UYcdaOoICQ-00449-00089466-00089638 why should we go for Akashi when we know 3UYcdaOoICQ-00450-00089639-00089741 it's going to take a while to get online 3UYcdaOoICQ-00451-00089742-00089932 anyway when we can just Crush their 3UYcdaOoICQ-00452-00089933-00090053 early game and that's what they're just 3UYcdaOoICQ-00453-00090054-00090203 doing 3UYcdaOoICQ-00454-00090204-00090631 um fbz looks like Diego is on the way 3UYcdaOoICQ-00455-00090632-00090935 oh it's uh it's getting very scary for 3UYcdaOoICQ-00456-00090936-00091168 collage we said before but continues to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00457-00091169-00091450 like it's it's not yet it's not getting 3UYcdaOoICQ-00458-00091451-00091571 better and I'm not sure how it's 3UYcdaOoICQ-00459-00091572-00091673 supposed to get better maybe the blink 3UYcdaOoICQ-00460-00091674-00091835 dagger on the tiny it'll be available 3UYcdaOoICQ-00461-00091836-00092062 for him in about 100 gold that could be 3UYcdaOoICQ-00462-00092063-00092291 an opening for him yeah that like if 3UYcdaOoICQ-00463-00092292-00092482 they get that item and they still don't 3UYcdaOoICQ-00464-00092483-00092693 make anything happen then 3UYcdaOoICQ-00465-00092694-00092950 yeah that is just 100 boom gonna 3UYcdaOoICQ-00466-00092951-00093088 eventually run away with this game but 3UYcdaOoICQ-00467-00093089-00093293 it's all going to come down to the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00468-00093294-00093497 timing of these blinks and what they 3UYcdaOoICQ-00469-00093498-00093629 could actually get done 3UYcdaOoICQ-00470-00093630-00093826 and the other game for a three-man split 3UYcdaOoICQ-00471-00093827-00094055 they didn't actually include the tiny in 3UYcdaOoICQ-00472-00094056-00094282 that just gonna leave him to his own own 3UYcdaOoICQ-00473-00094283-00094511 devices and yeah we'll see if Bach with 3UYcdaOoICQ-00474-00094512-00094618 the two supports are gonna be able to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00475-00094619-00094967 find anyone oh what a scan 3UYcdaOoICQ-00476-00094968-00095212 yeah big big reads there coming out from 3UYcdaOoICQ-00477-00095213-00095405 uh natsumi just to realize that was in 3UYcdaOoICQ-00478-00095406-00095626 like coming his way and avoiding with 3UYcdaOoICQ-00479-00095627-00095776 these 3UYcdaOoICQ-00480-00095777-00095987 yeah unfortunately by the way the tiny 3UYcdaOoICQ-00481-00095988-00096112 has always revealed that his other 3UYcdaOoICQ-00482-00096113-00096250 buildings like oh fight begins actually 3UYcdaOoICQ-00483-00096251-00096509 aerolabs it's a danger back jumping 3UYcdaOoICQ-00484-00096510-00096700 in trying to get the quick person still 3UYcdaOoICQ-00485-00096701-00096917 alive for now but still they will bring 3UYcdaOoICQ-00486-00096918-00097091 down the keeper light eventually but it 3UYcdaOoICQ-00487-00097092-00097241 looks like boom they want to try and 3UYcdaOoICQ-00488-00097242-00097403 carry on pushing him for more right and 3UYcdaOoICQ-00489-00097404-00097523 that's who means getting involved net 3UYcdaOoICQ-00490-00097524-00097703 lands on towards Mac good chains onto 3UYcdaOoICQ-00491-00097704-00097829 two as well do they have the follow-up 3UYcdaOoICQ-00492-00097830-00097950 damage though that is the question 3UYcdaOoICQ-00493-00097951-00098153 Avalon's just trying to hold back the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00494-00098154-00098332 narcos sorry for as long as possible FBC 3UYcdaOoICQ-00495-00098333-00098506 now also getting involved with his blink 3UYcdaOoICQ-00496-00098507-00098693 revealed on top of the tiny can they 3UYcdaOoICQ-00497-00098694-00098903 bring him down heel from see about we'll 3UYcdaOoICQ-00498-00098904-00099100 give the space for tiny to disengage but 3UYcdaOoICQ-00499-00099101-00099329 regardless it is so far a two for one 3UYcdaOoICQ-00500-00099330-00099700 shade here four boom an SBC I'm sure he 3UYcdaOoICQ-00501-00099701-00099887 would like a plus one but not quite 3UYcdaOoICQ-00502-00099888-00100037 gonna find it 3UYcdaOoICQ-00503-00100038-00100223 and the natsumi was involved in that 3UYcdaOoICQ-00504-00100224-00100355 fight so at any moment they could have 3UYcdaOoICQ-00505-00100356-00100582 just song and made it out just fine he 3UYcdaOoICQ-00506-00100583-00100697 was very durable as well they tried to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00507-00100698-00100853 go for a kill but tried to actually 3UYcdaOoICQ-00508-00100854-00101068 damage him but the snowballed even after 3UYcdaOoICQ-00509-00101069-00101273 it land just couldn't do anything Jing 3UYcdaOoICQ-00510-00101274-00101494 and he's gonna be making it out just 3UYcdaOoICQ-00511-00101495-00101843 fine overall the blink reveal not gonna 3UYcdaOoICQ-00512-00101844-00101999 use but he actually went to the mid lane 3UYcdaOoICQ-00513-00102000-00102155 and hit some creeps there and they're 3UYcdaOoICQ-00514-00102156-00102293 like well there he is he has a blitch 3UYcdaOoICQ-00515-00102294-00102544 dagger he just like you said they were 3UYcdaOoICQ-00516-00102545-00102718 going for a smoke with mac and then he 3UYcdaOoICQ-00517-00102719-00102863 just shows himself in the mid lane like 3UYcdaOoICQ-00518-00102864-00103073 that and it's not the blinked reveal you 3UYcdaOoICQ-00519-00103074-00103240 want where you trade you know two of 3UYcdaOoICQ-00520-00103241-00103368 your Heroes just to get a position 3UYcdaOoICQ-00521-00103369-00103739 position for support yeah definitely uh 3UYcdaOoICQ-00522-00103740-00103930 not how they wanted the blink full Mac 3UYcdaOoICQ-00523-00103931-00104075 to come out 3UYcdaOoICQ-00524-00104076-00104290 unfortunately yeah just constant spam of 3UYcdaOoICQ-00525-00104291-00104399 these slightly fists as you were saying 3UYcdaOoICQ-00526-00104400-00104518 earlier on the chakra magic it's 3UYcdaOoICQ-00527-00104519-00104675 allowing new parts to spam this out 3UYcdaOoICQ-00528-00104676-00104801 relentlessly 3UYcdaOoICQ-00529-00104802-00104993 makes it very very difficult for Max to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00530-00104994-00105089 get much done actually they're just 3UYcdaOoICQ-00531-00105090-00105203 going to try and go from right now the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00532-00105204-00105347 two of them Arrow comes through landlord 3UYcdaOoICQ-00533-00105348-00105521 to illusion Matt he's trying to get 3UYcdaOoICQ-00534-00105522-00105821 himself away he just can't do it and 3UYcdaOoICQ-00535-00105822-00106054 that's always like mac had multiple 3UYcdaOoICQ-00536-00106055-00106240 people behind him trying to help out but 3UYcdaOoICQ-00537-00106241-00106547 still yopage with the help obviously of 3UYcdaOoICQ-00538-00106548-00106865 zephyr was able to bring him down 3UYcdaOoICQ-00539-00106866-00107110 there's one sort of I don't know if I 3UYcdaOoICQ-00540-00107111-00107225 could call it positive but there's 3UYcdaOoICQ-00541-00107226-00107369 something that Palace is going to try to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00542-00107370-00107525 do which is that they pick the Pokemon 3UYcdaOoICQ-00543-00107526-00107789 to counter the Naga siren you do get The 3UYcdaOoICQ-00544-00107790-00108004 Shard you are able to get all these 3UYcdaOoICQ-00545-00108005-00108149 Illusions off in one second so that's 3UYcdaOoICQ-00546-00108150-00108286 kind of nice 3UYcdaOoICQ-00547-00108288-00108490 but uh he doesn't even have the shot in 3UYcdaOoICQ-00548-00108491-00108689 17 minutes he's about 300 gold away from 3UYcdaOoICQ-00549-00108690-00109007 it it's a very roundabout way of sort of 3UYcdaOoICQ-00550-00109008-00109097 countering he's like all right we're 3UYcdaOoICQ-00551-00109098-00109271 gonna get this hero if he gets a Shard 3UYcdaOoICQ-00552-00109272-00109636 he sort of uses ultimate on it's like so 3UYcdaOoICQ-00553-00109638-00109775 many things have to go right for this 3UYcdaOoICQ-00554-00109776-00110107 counter to work but um 3UYcdaOoICQ-00555-00110108-00110339 it'll say and at the moment it's not 3UYcdaOoICQ-00556-00110340-00110593 even the Naga siren doing the work yes 3UYcdaOoICQ-00557-00110594-00110849 natsumi's just off doing his own things 3UYcdaOoICQ-00558-00110850-00111077 you know farming up pretty comfortable 3UYcdaOoICQ-00559-00111078-00111227 at the top of the net worth but it is 3UYcdaOoICQ-00560-00111228-00111377 pretty much all just down to you Parish 3UYcdaOoICQ-00561-00111378-00111539 with the help of his supports just 3UYcdaOoICQ-00562-00111540-00111760 running around doing a lot of work 3UYcdaOoICQ-00563-00111761-00111971 exactly not to me especially the bottom 3UYcdaOoICQ-00564-00111972-00112145 Lane no one's really bothering him but 3UYcdaOoICQ-00565-00112146-00112331 he's not actually doing it so if 3UYcdaOoICQ-00566-00112332-00112451 something that no one else could do 3UYcdaOoICQ-00567-00112452-00112589 right he's just pushing out the lanes 3UYcdaOoICQ-00568-00112590-00112816 normally it's just gonna he's fine I can 3UYcdaOoICQ-00569-00112817-00112919 actually in the Top Lane he's gonna try 3UYcdaOoICQ-00570-00112920-00113183 to do the same as well actually 3UYcdaOoICQ-00571-00113183-00113363 and they'll try best to do some damage 3UYcdaOoICQ-00572-00113364-00113543 but they're not quite gonna commit for 3UYcdaOoICQ-00573-00113544-00113734 it I mean well their tier 2 will end up 3UYcdaOoICQ-00574-00113735-00113884 falling down because I actually want to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00575-00113885-00114058 go for buck right now as well fbz is 3UYcdaOoICQ-00576-00114059-00114149 here 3UYcdaOoICQ-00577-00114150-00114334 18 minute Rune sponsored towards the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00578-00114335-00114473 boss but couldn't even get that one now 3UYcdaOoICQ-00579-00114474-00114640 he's into real danger signs of top Arrow 3UYcdaOoICQ-00580-00114641-00114881 oh nearly got the connection but not 3UYcdaOoICQ-00581-00114882-00115102 quite enough but still alive for now but 3UYcdaOoICQ-00582-00115103-00115252 it's the con super suit from boom oh 3UYcdaOoICQ-00583-00115253-00115366 nice snowball up to The High Ground 3UYcdaOoICQ-00584-00115367-00115499 there makes a bit of space but it 3UYcdaOoICQ-00585-00115500-00115654 doesn't matter the charge is still 3UYcdaOoICQ-00586-00115655-00115858 coming through whom it's not letting 3UYcdaOoICQ-00587-00115859-00116147 anyone escape two people down just like 3UYcdaOoICQ-00588-00116148-00116458 that and do you think they could also go 3UYcdaOoICQ-00589-00116459-00116652 Rish 3UYcdaOoICQ-00590-00116653-00116957 not the best Rush lineup but they have 3UYcdaOoICQ-00591-00116958-00117077 to bring nuts to me here but he's around 3UYcdaOoICQ-00592-00117078-00117245 the area so they could help them off 3UYcdaOoICQ-00593-00117246-00117389 they need to that was the guardian 3UYcdaOoICQ-00594-00117390-00117640 griefs by the way being used on on Bach 3UYcdaOoICQ-00595-00117641-00117863 to escape in that fight use it so on Max 3UYcdaOoICQ-00596-00117864-00118054 sorry to get you use it just to dispel 3UYcdaOoICQ-00597-00118055-00118283 the same shade but it's not enough and 3UYcdaOoICQ-00598-00118283-00118427 there's no aggression coming out from 3UYcdaOoICQ-00599-00118428-00118690 Polaris you know they we're just not 3UYcdaOoICQ-00600-00118691-00118823 seeing anything coming out from them 3UYcdaOoICQ-00601-00118824-00119027 right now they're seem very content to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00602-00119028-00119278 farm and kind of succeed map control 3UYcdaOoICQ-00603-00119279-00119608 over to Boom who's 10 000 gold ahead 3UYcdaOoICQ-00604-00119609-00119825 that is massive yeah and I if you look 3UYcdaOoICQ-00605-00119826-00120007 at the graph as well it is just 3UYcdaOoICQ-00606-00120008-00120286 continuously going down and down and 3UYcdaOoICQ-00607-00120288-00120473 down there's absolutely nothing players 3UYcdaOoICQ-00608-00120474-00120623 could do to try and you know bring it 3UYcdaOoICQ-00609-00120624-00120875 back up into their favor uh stolen 3UYcdaOoICQ-00610-00120876-00121060 strength also there for xnova so now we 3UYcdaOoICQ-00611-00121061-00121384 have a nice tanky Rubik 2.2 K HP pretty 3UYcdaOoICQ-00612-00121385-00121510 much 3UYcdaOoICQ-00613-00121511-00121751 yeah and who cares about armor right 3UYcdaOoICQ-00614-00121752-00121858 because he's not taking a lot of 3UYcdaOoICQ-00615-00121859-00122081 physical damage anyway right now I mean 3UYcdaOoICQ-00616-00122082-00122315 Pokemon as well as Tiny and Miranda are 3UYcdaOoICQ-00617-00122316-00122471 just doing a lot of magic damage oh here 3UYcdaOoICQ-00618-00122472-00122584 we go they're trying to go into your 3UYcdaOoICQ-00619-00122585-00122693 polish right now and they actually 3UYcdaOoICQ-00620-00122694-00122860 successfully bring him down that's a 3UYcdaOoICQ-00621-00122861-00123083 really nice Target to get but still 3UYcdaOoICQ-00622-00123083-00123275 they're gonna carry on pushing up for 3UYcdaOoICQ-00623-00123276-00123413 more doesn't look like boom want a 3UYcdaOoICQ-00624-00123414-00123628 completely disengage from this area fall 3UYcdaOoICQ-00625-00123629-00123743 back to The High Ground now they 3UYcdaOoICQ-00626-00123744-00123875 actually started to split and Matt's 3UYcdaOoICQ-00627-00123876-00124007 gonna find the opening to jump on 3UYcdaOoICQ-00628-00124008-00124210 towards the Rubik but remember he's very 3UYcdaOoICQ-00629-00124211-00124336 tanky now so he's gonna last a bit 3UYcdaOoICQ-00630-00124338-00124547 longer illuminae also coming through but 3UYcdaOoICQ-00631-00124548-00124810 eventually he will still fall 3UYcdaOoICQ-00632-00124811-00125057 this is two kills for Polaris 3UYcdaOoICQ-00633-00125058-00125236 looking to see if they can find a third 3UYcdaOoICQ-00634-00125238-00125590 but doesn't look like boom have it 3UYcdaOoICQ-00635-00125591-00125795 they have the tag team two points yes 3UYcdaOoICQ-00636-00125796-00125933 it's not maxed out but this could be an 3UYcdaOoICQ-00637-00125933-00126077 option for them Unfortunately they want 3UYcdaOoICQ-00638-00126078-00126251 to go for they gotta go for it you know 3UYcdaOoICQ-00639-00126252-00126431 10 seconds ago because right now you're 3UYcdaOoICQ-00640-00126432-00126604 probably gonna be up in five seconds and 3UYcdaOoICQ-00641-00126605-00126731 they realize they do not have enough 3UYcdaOoICQ-00642-00126732-00126940 time so unfortunately for them they do 3UYcdaOoICQ-00643-00126941-00127277 get two good kills for Polaris but it 3UYcdaOoICQ-00644-00127278-00127499 doesn't quite change the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00645-00127500-00127708 the status quo over the game right it 3UYcdaOoICQ-00646-00127709-00127907 still Polaris under control still boomy 3UYcdaOoICQ-00647-00127908-00128195 Sports running the show yeah 100 percent 3UYcdaOoICQ-00648-00128196-00128357 the new part is also getting pretty 3UYcdaOoICQ-00649-00128358-00128602 close to his bkb as well so trying to go 3UYcdaOoICQ-00650-00128603-00128813 for that lockdown play probably is going 3UYcdaOoICQ-00651-00128814-00128921 to be successful again in the future 3UYcdaOoICQ-00652-00128922-00129143 you'll have enough time to react and you 3UYcdaOoICQ-00653-00129144-00129323 know potentially be complete flip 3UYcdaOoICQ-00654-00129324-00129533 reversal on how that fight goes 3UYcdaOoICQ-00655-00129533-00129719 the only time will tell 3UYcdaOoICQ-00656-00129720-00129947 me we were saying earlier like Polaris 3UYcdaOoICQ-00657-00129948-00130090 they've got to make moves with these 3UYcdaOoICQ-00658-00130091-00130301 blinks and stuff but they've got to keep 3UYcdaOoICQ-00659-00130302-00130475 making those moves like you've got to do 3UYcdaOoICQ-00660-00130476-00130631 it again and again it's the only way 3UYcdaOoICQ-00661-00130632-00130864 they can better claw their way back 3UYcdaOoICQ-00662-00130865-00131051 their vision is also a bit weird right 3UYcdaOoICQ-00663-00131052-00131278 they have this top Ward very close to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00664-00131279-00131501 the enemy Outpost and dire tier 2 which 3UYcdaOoICQ-00665-00131502-00131621 makes it tough because if you make a 3UYcdaOoICQ-00666-00131622-00131783 move there you know the enemy is going 3UYcdaOoICQ-00667-00131784-00131999 to be able to reinforce it and uh they 3UYcdaOoICQ-00668-00132000-00132161 also have like some defensive boards 3UYcdaOoICQ-00669-00132162-00132527 that's about it oh Akashi Akashi and 3UYcdaOoICQ-00670-00132528-00132761 some danger TP gets counts left we see 3UYcdaOoICQ-00671-00132762-00133001 on his case I think he knows just a 3UYcdaOoICQ-00672-00133002-00133145 matter of time before he dies right now 3UYcdaOoICQ-00673-00133146-00133319 so many members of Boom Esports coming 3UYcdaOoICQ-00674-00133320-00133552 on up to catch off this morphlin 3UYcdaOoICQ-00675-00133553-00133775 yeah you can just tell Polaris they know 3UYcdaOoICQ-00676-00133776-00133931 he's dead no no one's coming up to try 3UYcdaOoICQ-00677-00133932-00134039 now 3UYcdaOoICQ-00678-00134040-00134273 I guess with the morphing down do you 3UYcdaOoICQ-00679-00134274-00134435 think boom can now go into the roast pit 3UYcdaOoICQ-00680-00134436-00134554 or 3UYcdaOoICQ-00681-00134555-00134735 only if not two movie feels like it 3UYcdaOoICQ-00682-00134736-00134861 right you have to get the Nike sign 3UYcdaOoICQ-00683-00134862-00135064 because the other the other four Heroes 3UYcdaOoICQ-00684-00135065-00135209 they're not exactly real Shooters 3UYcdaOoICQ-00685-00135210-00135389 they're not exactly physical damages you 3UYcdaOoICQ-00686-00135390-00135539 get some of it coming out from the Night 3UYcdaOoICQ-00687-00135540-00135871 Stalker but his build is only like like 3UYcdaOoICQ-00688-00135872-00136151 Facebooks that's it really doesn't have 3UYcdaOoICQ-00689-00136152-00136361 much more like sort of damage coming out 3UYcdaOoICQ-00690-00136362-00136504 he's going for more utility with the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00691-00136505-00136678 blink dagger I mean it's the right pick 3UYcdaOoICQ-00692-00136679-00136840 I'm just saying this does not help you 3UYcdaOoICQ-00693-00136841-00137111 take that Roche no it definitely doesn't 3UYcdaOoICQ-00694-00137112-00137363 we also see now Polaris going for this a 3UYcdaOoICQ-00695-00137364-00137513 little smoke attempt right now despite 3UYcdaOoICQ-00696-00137514-00137590 the fact that they're missing their 3UYcdaOoICQ-00697-00137591-00137681 morphing they're gonna see if they can 3UYcdaOoICQ-00698-00137682-00137801 find an opening there is gonna be the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00699-00137802-00137987 grab one towards the coal quick easy 3UYcdaOoICQ-00700-00137988-00138077 kill 3UYcdaOoICQ-00701-00138078-00138227 can help try and balance out these 3UYcdaOoICQ-00702-00138228-00138335 numbers a bit and see if they're gonna 3UYcdaOoICQ-00703-00138336-00138569 try and push for more but boom just full 3UYcdaOoICQ-00704-00138570-00138785 disengage right now 3UYcdaOoICQ-00705-00138786-00139007 Mac with the video and Echo saber I feel 3UYcdaOoICQ-00706-00139008-00139175 like if you can jump on anyone even fbz 3UYcdaOoICQ-00707-00139176-00139349 you might be able to get that kill be 3UYcdaOoICQ-00708-00139350-00139607 close but can they find him 3UYcdaOoICQ-00709-00139608-00139864 oh this is a bit of an opening here that 3UYcdaOoICQ-00710-00139865-00139997 they gotta make some use of but Mac 3UYcdaOoICQ-00711-00139998-00140261 reveals himself Top Lane and just goes 3UYcdaOoICQ-00712-00140262-00140464 to Farm Safe choice but doesn't mean 3UYcdaOoICQ-00713-00140465-00140663 that boomis was there aware that there 3UYcdaOoICQ-00714-00140664-00140951 there's a double damage bottled tiny 3UYcdaOoICQ-00715-00140952-00141154 roaming around with an echo saber with a 3UYcdaOoICQ-00716-00141155-00141275 blink dagger 3UYcdaOoICQ-00717-00141276-00141502 yeah definitely gonna uh give them pause 3UYcdaOoICQ-00718-00141503-00141677 for thought that is 3UYcdaOoICQ-00719-00141678-00141809 gonna be something yeah they have to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00720-00141810-00142037 contend with but still the Naga siren 3UYcdaOoICQ-00721-00142038-00142277 just so dominant at the top right there 3UYcdaOoICQ-00722-00142278-00142475 now heart of tarasque finished on top of 3UYcdaOoICQ-00723-00142476-00142787 everything else uh like pretty much 2.8 3UYcdaOoICQ-00724-00142788-00143063 K HP tons of armor to work with 3UYcdaOoICQ-00725-00143064-00143254 this feels like an extremely difficult 3UYcdaOoICQ-00726-00143255-00143489 Target to actually bring down that's 3UYcdaOoICQ-00727-00143490-00143675 going to require pretty much Polaris to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00728-00143676-00143873 focus everything they have but the net 3UYcdaOoICQ-00729-00143874-00144089 we'll just leave fpz and the oppos to do 3UYcdaOoICQ-00730-00144090-00144304 their thing 3UYcdaOoICQ-00731-00144305-00144527 and even then you got Mech Keeper of the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00732-00144528-00144664 lights we can you know heal you with the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00733-00144665-00144899 illuminates he's got a Caesar I mean I 3UYcdaOoICQ-00734-00144900-00145037 say serious substance like it's a big 3UYcdaOoICQ-00735-00145038-00145169 deal I mean it's what eight health a 3UYcdaOoICQ-00736-00145170-00145504 second but it adds up you know it does 3UYcdaOoICQ-00737-00145505-00145666 you know it's like the power of nine 3UYcdaOoICQ-00738-00145667-00145895 mangoes you know all that HP reasons it 3UYcdaOoICQ-00739-00145896-00146014 adds up 3UYcdaOoICQ-00740-00146015-00146293 it's a 3UYcdaOoICQ-00741-00146294-00146561 great item 3UYcdaOoICQ-00742-00146562-00146740 um Polaris are they thinking about 3UYcdaOoICQ-00743-00146741-00146981 smoking up here they do have a smoke on 3UYcdaOoICQ-00744-00146982-00147239 CML they it does feel like the window of 3UYcdaOoICQ-00745-00147240-00147383 you know like their their opportunity to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00746-00147384-00147521 win the game is getting smaller smaller 3UYcdaOoICQ-00747-00147522-00147749 as the time As Time Goes By Buck 3UYcdaOoICQ-00748-00147750-00147964 he's gonna be okay just can't poke it oh 3UYcdaOoICQ-00749-00147965-00148169 it's Sucker Punch never saw that I was 3UYcdaOoICQ-00750-00148170-00148409 like hey I stole an ultimate guys I got 3UYcdaOoICQ-00751-00148410-00148631 one well the most impactful armor in the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00752-00148632-00148895 world but hey it's it's something 3UYcdaOoICQ-00753-00148896-00149104 all you have to do is just I mean it's a 3UYcdaOoICQ-00754-00149105-00149297 bkb piercing one that's the probably the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00755-00149298-00149663 best part about it and uh Mac has been 3UYcdaOoICQ-00756-00149664-00149854 kind of I don't say farming here because 3UYcdaOoICQ-00757-00149855-00150083 he's four or three and two but he hasn't 3UYcdaOoICQ-00758-00150084-00150287 been the most active time in will they 3UYcdaOoICQ-00759-00150288-00151459 smoke up 3UYcdaOoICQ-00760-00151460-00151661 gets removed from the equation straight 3UYcdaOoICQ-00761-00151662-00151859 away even Mack now getting caught trying 3UYcdaOoICQ-00762-00151860-00152009 to wrap on top of the tiniest best they 3UYcdaOoICQ-00763-00152010-00152135 can he's still alive for now and 3UYcdaOoICQ-00764-00152136-00152261 eventually we'll get brought down to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00765-00152262-00152387 beat Kippy from your garage allowed to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00766-00152388-00152549 charge through with a decrepified there 3UYcdaOoICQ-00767-00152550-00152723 from CML the buyback really coming to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00768-00152724-00152902 clutch to keep his mid laner alive but 3UYcdaOoICQ-00769-00152903-00153083 just doesn't end up keeping him alive 3UYcdaOoICQ-00770-00153084-00153287 for the long he still Falls now the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00771-00153288-00153478 morph against some real danger just the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00772-00153479-00153652 silences to control the stuns the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00773-00153653-00153839 snowball is going to delay this for now 3UYcdaOoICQ-00774-00153840-00154037 can he get himself out nice use of the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00775-00154038-00154204 amount of souls force uh the search up 3UYcdaOoICQ-00776-00154205-00154409 to The High Ground but still just the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00777-00154410-00154649 follow-up is there from boom chasing 3UYcdaOoICQ-00778-00154650-00154895 them all the way into the base even 3UYcdaOoICQ-00779-00154896-00155113 gonna find Bach off to the side here 3UYcdaOoICQ-00780-00155114-00155369 another snowball to try and delay this 3UYcdaOoICQ-00781-00155370-00155590 out but delay is the word to use because 3UYcdaOoICQ-00782-00155591-00155897 he will still Die four people down for 3UYcdaOoICQ-00783-00155898-00156095 Polaris five technically because it's a 3UYcdaOoICQ-00784-00156096-00156304 die back from the pugner and boom don't 3UYcdaOoICQ-00785-00156305-00156473 lose anything 3UYcdaOoICQ-00786-00156474-00156689 one thing that went really really well 3UYcdaOoICQ-00787-00156690-00156869 for boom is that your pause he was 3UYcdaOoICQ-00788-00156870-00157043 walking in invis walking through the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00789-00157044-00157252 century Ward and Akashi had a couple of 3UYcdaOoICQ-00790-00157253-00157397 manta style illusions that they saw 3UYcdaOoICQ-00791-00157398-00157649 hitting him telling him oh I know that 3UYcdaOoICQ-00792-00157650-00157799 they have a Sentry Wars here and he was 3UYcdaOoICQ-00793-00157800-00158009 able to uh get away from Mac in time to 3UYcdaOoICQ-00794-00158010-00158225 make it to make it alive that situation 3UYcdaOoICQ-00795-00158226-00158476 so it's a small thing there that 3UYcdaOoICQ-00796-00158477-00158740 happened that saves your Page's life and 3UYcdaOoICQ-00797-00158741-00159052 this game feels even worse than game one 3UYcdaOoICQ-00798-00159053-00159311 did for Polaris right now yeah it really 3UYcdaOoICQ-00799-00159312-00159611 does 15 000 go behind 25 minutes in 3UYcdaOoICQ-00800-00159612-00159754 gonna be able to cut up this first 3UYcdaOoICQ-00801-00159755-00160073 version uh you pause she's just funded 3UYcdaOoICQ-00802-00160074-00160319 more kills another crap onto Shane sort 3UYcdaOoICQ-00803-00160320-00160421 of doing like what you said in game 3UYcdaOoICQ-00804-00160422-00160559 number one obviously at this point I 3UYcdaOoICQ-00805-00160560-00160847 think he was like 13 for zero but yeah 3UYcdaOoICQ-00806-00160848-00161009 he's still doing a fantastic job he's 3UYcdaOoICQ-00807-00161010-00161273 doing what he needs to do 3UYcdaOoICQ-00808-00161274-00161471 um I don't know I only I only like my 3UYcdaOoICQ-00809-00161472-00161716 mids if they go 15 and zero or better 3UYcdaOoICQ-00810-00161717-00162043 right he's six two deaths 3UYcdaOoICQ-00811-00162044-00162275 no your pouch is absolutely sliding game 3UYcdaOoICQ-00812-00162276-00162454 one definitely was his Show game two a 3UYcdaOoICQ-00813-00162455-00162647 bit more of a team effort but like fbz 3UYcdaOoICQ-00814-00162648-00162814 getting that solo kill on Akashi early 3UYcdaOoICQ-00815-00162815-00163066 on was huge and since I mean that busy 3UYcdaOoICQ-00816-00163067-00163235 hasn't even died this game you know he's 3UYcdaOoICQ-00817-00163236-00163519 the he's the yopage of game too Bach 3UYcdaOoICQ-00818-00163520-00163876 he's the anti-opage maybe look at the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00819-00163877-00164081 edge of just walked straight past FPC 3UYcdaOoICQ-00820-00164082-00164290 then blinked off but it doesn't matter 3UYcdaOoICQ-00821-00164291-00164495 we'll just see we get round down 3UYcdaOoICQ-00822-00164496-00164807 today task 45 seconds 3UYcdaOoICQ-00823-00164808-00164969 um could see the first High Ground seats 3UYcdaOoICQ-00824-00164970-00165154 coming out now here from boom casual 3UYcdaOoICQ-00825-00165155-00165323 Arrow does land me well up top actually 3UYcdaOoICQ-00826-00165324-00165599 natsumi has just found a crap onto Mack 3UYcdaOoICQ-00827-00165600-00165863 and the tiny just gets absolutely 3UYcdaOoICQ-00828-00165864-00166228 annihilated two people gone no BuyBacks 3UYcdaOoICQ-00829-00166229-00166637 and yeah High Ground Siege here we come 3UYcdaOoICQ-00830-00166638-00166811 trying to figure out something that 3UYcdaOoICQ-00831-00166812-00167045 Polaris can do this situation I mean if 3UYcdaOoICQ-00832-00167046-00167249 you had it's going to come down to tiny 3UYcdaOoICQ-00833-00167250-00167507 jumping in tossing someone to your side 3UYcdaOoICQ-00834-00167508-00167675 preferably squishy support you get the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00835-00167676-00167890 kill off and hope that Mac makes it out 3UYcdaOoICQ-00836-00167891-00168076 alive in that situation as well and you 3UYcdaOoICQ-00837-00168077-00168233 can get a numerical Advantage like that 3UYcdaOoICQ-00838-00168234-00168419 but remember you are up against the Naga 3UYcdaOoICQ-00839-00168420-00168575 sleep as well so even if you're catching 3UYcdaOoICQ-00840-00168576-00168761 snowball you gotta kill him and no 3UYcdaOoICQ-00841-00168762-00169007 matter next service no no no flimsy 3UYcdaOoICQ-00842-00169008-00169264 support baby he is a fully strength 3UYcdaOoICQ-00843-00169265-00169595 morph Rubik with 2 000 health yeah he is 3UYcdaOoICQ-00844-00169596-00169864 the definition of a Beefcake that is for 3UYcdaOoICQ-00845-00169865-00170140 sure it's very difficult 3UYcdaOoICQ-00846-00170141-00170314 I'm pretty sure Beefcake is a very 3UYcdaOoICQ-00847-00170315-00170647 handsome fellow I mean oh I know yeah 3UYcdaOoICQ-00848-00170648-00170926 Beefcake beefcakes are just like they're 3UYcdaOoICQ-00849-00170927-00171131 massive you know they're really muscular 3UYcdaOoICQ-00850-00171132-00171389 Hench and uh tank everywhere there we go 3UYcdaOoICQ-00851-00171390-00171514 I don't fight coming on through Max 3UYcdaOoICQ-00852-00171515-00171652 stepping up first looks like he's gonna 3UYcdaOoICQ-00853-00171653-00171797 get bullied down just takes so much 3UYcdaOoICQ-00854-00171798-00172073 damage just raining on through you just 3UYcdaOoICQ-00855-00172074-00172235 can't do anything in this game even the 3UYcdaOoICQ-00856-00172236-00172373 potential grab as well to see about 3UYcdaOoICQ-00857-00172374-00172559 dragging him back to pepperfly making 3UYcdaOoICQ-00858-00172560-00172702 space but instead of Kashi actually 3UYcdaOoICQ-00859-00172703-00172876 takes a fair whack of damage himself 3UYcdaOoICQ-00860-00172877-00173069 Arrow nearly catch the connections with 3UYcdaOoICQ-00861-00173070-00173225 Zephyr before stops Dodge it but still 3UYcdaOoICQ-00862-00173226-00173452 Bok chases after with the blink attacker 3UYcdaOoICQ-00863-00173453-00173602 takes him down but it cashley follows 3UYcdaOoICQ-00864-00173603-00173771 him to the Grave momentarily 3UYcdaOoICQ-00865-00173772-00173975 and nobody work for them more but still 3UYcdaOoICQ-00866-00173976-00174149 feeling like they could just keep going 3UYcdaOoICQ-00867-00174150-00174293 and why the hell not they certainly 3UYcdaOoICQ-00868-00174294-00174652 can't FBC he's gonna die yes he will he 3UYcdaOoICQ-00869-00174653-00174904 does die but it doesn't even matter GG 3UYcdaOoICQ-00870-00174905-00175216 is cool and boom Esports take the series 3UYcdaOoICQ-00871-00175217-00175433 2-0 3UYcdaOoICQ-00872-00175434-00175763 dude I mean the lack of beef kicks on 3UYcdaOoICQ-00873-00175764-00176002 Polaris aside they were just too squishy 3UYcdaOoICQ-00874-00176003-00176363 too easy to bring down uh that solo kill 3UYcdaOoICQ-00875-00176364-00176602 bottom they had a tiny and a Tusk but 3UYcdaOoICQ-00876-00176603-00176807 the other supports were just 3UYcdaOoICQ-00877-00176808-00176975 very easy every time they got called 3UYcdaOoICQ-00878-00176976-00177143 they'll just be killed Jing as well as 3UYcdaOoICQ-00879-00177144-00177443 CML and boom they played fantastically I 3UYcdaOoICQ-00880-00177444-00177794 got like two games in a row 3VLDdeTP-hc-00000-00000086-00002883 [Music] 3VLDdeTP-hc-00001-00002884-00003080 so 3VLDdeTP-hc-00004-00013325-00014085 [Music] 3VLDdeTP-hc-00005-00014086-00014666 [Music] 3VLDdeTP-hc-00009-00029583-00029636 you 3VLDdeTP-hc-00010-00029637-00029995 [Music] 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00000-00000096-00000295 i've had some people ask some questions 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00001-00000296-00000623 about moving events and libraries to an 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00002-00000624-00000799 external hard drive 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00003-00000800-00001103 and i wanted to show people how to do 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00004-00001104-00001415 this similarly in imovie 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00005-00001416-00001679 it works in about the same way and in 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00006-00001680-00001839 this case i've got 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00007-00001839-00002039 a previous movie project 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00008-00002039-00002318 of some itcc scenes 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00009-00002319-00002495 and what i want to do is i want to move 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00010-00002496-00002647 this event 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00011-00002648-00002887 to my external drive now i've got my 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00012-00002888-00003150 external drive attached to my computer 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00013-00003151-00003303 via the usb 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00014-00003304-00003486 uh port 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00015-00003488-00003654 and i've got a library on this but what 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00016-00003655-00003903 i want to do is create a new library on 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00017-00003904-00004111 my external drive from events that i 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00018-00004112-00004319 want to move there so we'll switch back 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00019-00004320-00004535 to imovie and what i'll do is make sure 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00020-00004536-00004783 that i have my event selected and if i 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00021-00004784-00004943 have my event selected it'll also 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00022-00004944-00005143 include the project file 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00023-00005144-00005286 so i've got this selected i'm going to 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00024-00005287-00005495 go up to the file menu 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00025-00005496-00005815 and choose copy event to library i'm 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00026-00005816-00006079 going to choose new library 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00027-00006080-00006231 and then i'll make sure that i'm 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00028-00006232-00006518 choosing my video editing drive and and 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00029-00006519-00006687 you'll have you'll see those selected in 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00030-00006688-00006855 the devices area so i've got my video 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00031-00006856-00007087 editing drive selected i'm going to 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00032-00007088-00007463 change the name of this library to 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00033-00007464-00007919 itcc library 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00034-00007920-00008255 and i'll click on the save button 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00035-00008256-00008407 and you'll see the progress up here in 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00036-00008408-00008591 the corner there's these files aren't 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00037-00008592-00008774 very large the footage isn't very long 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00038-00008775-00008959 so it shouldn't take very much time at 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00039-00008960-00009031 all 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00040-00009032-00009263 and so now you'll see that that library 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00041-00009264-00009399 appears 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00042-00009400-00009671 in my libraries list 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00043-00009672-00009935 and here is the project file and those 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00044-00009936-00010159 events now i can also go in 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00045-00010160-00010359 and right click on the other library and 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00046-00010360-00010471 close it 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00047-00010472-00010671 and you'll see that again these these 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00048-00010672-00010878 files are there i can double click on 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00049-00010879-00011095 the project file and i can begin editing 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00050-00011096-00011287 and so this is actually 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00051-00011288-00011567 coming off of my external drive and once 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00052-00011568-00011823 again if i switch to that view of the 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00053-00011824-00012159 drive in finder you'll now see this itcc 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00054-00012160-00012423 library file and that contains my 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00055-00012424-00012751 project and my events my video footage 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00056-00012752-00012935 so that's how you would 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00057-00012936-00013119 uh copy 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00058-00013119-00013358 events and projects to an external drive 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00059-00013359-00013527 now one other thing to keep in mind if 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00060-00013528-00013727 you have multiple projects or multiple 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00061-00013728-00013855 events 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00062-00013856-00014119 on an existing library or in an existing 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00063-00014119-00014391 library you can go in and 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00064-00014391-00014638 under the file menu you'll see copy 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00065-00014640-00014743 events 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00066-00014744-00014894 to library and then you can choose the 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00067-00014895-00015063 library that you want to send those to 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00068-00015063-00015319 so that's how you copy events to an 3WEWZ8T_RKE-00069-00015319-00015740 external drive in imovie 3ayg9in83gu-00000-00000039-00001245 blackpink 3ayg9in83gu-00001-00001246-00003534 [Music] 3ayg9in83gu-00002-00003535-00004604 [Music] 3ayg9in83gu-00003-00004605-00005611 [Music] 3ayg9in83gu-00004-00005612-00006383 [Music] 3ayg9in83gu-00005-00006384-00006606 hi guys 3ayg9in83gu-00006-00006608-00006745 can i have you 3ayg9in83gu-00007-00006747-00007103 [Music] 3ayg9in83gu-00008-00007104-00007798 right here all right 3ayg9in83gu-00009-00007798-00008974 [Music] 3ayg9in83gu-00010-00008975-00010159 okay 3ayg9in83gu-00011-00010160-00010435 me 3ayg9in83gu-00012-00010436-00012097 [Music] 3ayg9in83gu-00013-00012098-00012327 [Music] 3ayg9in83gu-00014-00012328-00012887 i love it 3ayg9in83gu-00015-00012888-00013841 [Applause] 3ayg9in83gu-00016-00013843-00014447 [Music] 3ayg9in83gu-00017-00014447-00016463 [Music] 3ayg9in83gu-00018-00016464-00016729 it's getting larger 3ayg9in83gu-00019-00016730-00017855 [Music] 3ayg9in83gu-00020-00017856-00018114 tell them 3ayg9in83gu-00021-00018115-00018900 [Music] 3ayg9in83gu-00022-00018901-00019543 [Music] 3ayg9in83gu-00023-00019544-00019918 yes 3ayg9in83gu-00024-00019919-00020582 [Music] 3ayg9in83gu-00025-00020583-00020719 [Music] 3ayg9in83gu-00026-00020720-00020919 blackpink 3ayg9in83gu-00027-00020920-00021094 gained jack you're in a and i 3ayg9in83gu-00028-00021095-00021255 elgin in itself 3ayg9in83gu-00029-00021256-00021367 yeah 3ayg9in83gu-00030-00021368-00021678 good gender black being none gunning get 3ayg9in83gu-00031-00021679-00022286 nazi 3ayg9in83gu-00032-00022287-00022535 love 3ayg9in83gu-00033-00022536-00022943 life passion love 3ayg9in83gu-00034-00022944-00023094 life fashion 3ayg9in83gu-00035-00023095-00023342 love 3ayg9in83gu-00036-00023343-00023844 life passion love 3ayg9in83gu-00037-00023845-00026758 [Music] 3ayg9in83gu-00038-00026758-00027704 [Music] 3ayg9in83gu-00039-00027705-00028143 [Music] 3ayg9in83gu-00040-00028144-00028543 life passion love 3ayg9in83gu-00041-00028544-00028702 life fashion 3ayg9in83gu-00042-00028704-00028951 love 3ayg9in83gu-00043-00028952-00029495 life fashion love 3ayg9in83gu-00044-00029495-00030270 [Music] 3ayg9in83gu-00045-00030272-00030439 i'm really excited to see the exhibit 3ayg9in83gu-00046-00030439-00030558 and just everything 3ayg9in83gu-00047-00030560-00030695 i'm excited we're next to each other in 3ayg9in83gu-00048-00030695-00030839 the lineup and we can go see the 3ayg9in83gu-00049-00030839-00031260 exhibits again they did this one 3cAt6CuDbIE-00000-00001136-00001511 [Music] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00001-00001512-00001671 everybody welcome back to another 3cAt6CuDbIE-00002-00001672-00002102 video of gta san andreas 3cAt6CuDbIE-00003-00002103-00002471 subscribe to channel like share comment 3cAt6CuDbIE-00004-00002472-00002758 so okay subscribe the channel in 10 3cAt6CuDbIE-00005-00002759-00002942 seconds i'm going to see you do it 3cAt6CuDbIE-00006-00002943-00003279 ten nine eight seven 3cAt6CuDbIE-00007-00003279-00003599 six five four three two 3cAt6CuDbIE-00008-00003600-00003975 one zero yeah great job now let's 3cAt6CuDbIE-00009-00003976-00004047 continue 3cAt6CuDbIE-00010-00004047-00004303 with the video let's come here to switz 3cAt6CuDbIE-00011-00004304-00004535 missions 3cAt6CuDbIE-00012-00004536-00004759 i could drive as well as cj man i'm 3cAt6CuDbIE-00013-00004760-00004863 telling you 3cAt6CuDbIE-00014-00004864-00007078 okay what you saying about me foreign 3cAt6CuDbIE-00015-00007079-00007246 say what you really mean you're such a 3cAt6CuDbIE-00016-00007247-00007383 good government homie 3cAt6CuDbIE-00017-00007384-00007623 you gotta ride shotgun show cj what's 3cAt6CuDbIE-00018-00007623-00007710 cracking 3cAt6CuDbIE-00019-00007711-00007967 hey you know something okay you're right 3cAt6CuDbIE-00020-00007968-00008055 cheers cj 3cAt6CuDbIE-00021-00008056-00008551 you can try homie sure i'll go and go 3cAt6CuDbIE-00022-00008552-00008831 you said that i'm bad at driving tell us 3cAt6CuDbIE-00023-00008832-00008878 what you 3cAt6CuDbIE-00024-00008879-00009342 meant what are you talking about now 3cAt6CuDbIE-00025-00009343-00010111 wait guys i changed 3cAt6CuDbIE-00026-00010112-00011238 [Music] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00027-00011239-00011855 you always are smoking like a fool 3cAt6CuDbIE-00028-00011856-00012135 yeah ball is turf your dog is ready yes 3cAt6CuDbIE-00029-00012136-00012246 okay 3cAt6CuDbIE-00030-00012247-00012406 carl just concentrate on the driving and 3cAt6CuDbIE-00031-00012407-00012559 we'll take care of the shooting 3cAt6CuDbIE-00032-00012560-00013686 listen to the man okay 3cAt6CuDbIE-00033-00013687-00013999 here 3cAt6CuDbIE-00034-00014000-00015335 let's go 3cAt6CuDbIE-00035-00015336-00016255 okay let's go then 3cAt6CuDbIE-00036-00016256-00016479 that was way too easy let's go blast on 3cAt6CuDbIE-00037-00016480-00016655 some more 3cAt6CuDbIE-00038-00016656-00018230 speed up a little 3cAt6CuDbIE-00039-00018231-00018679 why you keep asking me to do this 3cAt6CuDbIE-00040-00018680-00019039 you asked me to drive for you aaron 3cAt6CuDbIE-00041-00019040-00019527 running up 3cAt6CuDbIE-00042-00019528-00021111 smash on smash 3cAt6CuDbIE-00043-00021112-00021447 shuttle then 3cAt6CuDbIE-00044-00021448-00022014 i see it there 3cAt6CuDbIE-00045-00022015-00023022 i'll go go go okay guys 3cAt6CuDbIE-00046-00023023-00023367 shut your mouth i'm doing a good driving 3cAt6CuDbIE-00047-00023368-00024217 all right [__] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00048-00024218-00024927 [Applause] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00049-00024928-00025463 is it gonna get fixed like this 3cAt6CuDbIE-00050-00025464-00025911 yep it does good 3cAt6CuDbIE-00051-00025912-00026070 your one level has been such spanish you 3cAt6CuDbIE-00052-00026072-00026255 committed crying well the stars are 3cAt6CuDbIE-00053-00026256-00026444 flashing 3cAt6CuDbIE-00054-00026445-00026655 [Music] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00055-00026656-00027935 what 3cAt6CuDbIE-00056-00027936-00028158 how about i kill you instead of them 3cAt6CuDbIE-00057-00028160-00028351 killing you 3cAt6CuDbIE-00058-00028352-00028646 i'm stuck with you either big smoking 3cAt6CuDbIE-00059-00028647-00029374 homie 3cAt6CuDbIE-00060-00029375-00029614 so watch yourself for now on cj yeah 3cAt6CuDbIE-00061-00029616-00029687 okay 3cAt6CuDbIE-00062-00029688-00029927 you know that i'll see y'all later i'll 3cAt6CuDbIE-00063-00029927-00030239 see y'all later boys 3cAt6CuDbIE-00064-00030239-00030470 we did guys we did the first mission 3cAt6CuDbIE-00065-00030472-00030735 let's go to the second mission 3cAt6CuDbIE-00066-00030736-00031399 there we go to ryder sweet or 3cAt6CuDbIE-00067-00031400-00031702 big smoke let's go to speed again 3cAt6CuDbIE-00068-00031703-00032014 yeah my parents sweet 3cAt6CuDbIE-00069-00032016-00032302 smoke yeah sweet smoke where are you 3cAt6CuDbIE-00070-00032303-00032399 boys 3cAt6CuDbIE-00071-00032400-00032735 [__] i don't know 3cAt6CuDbIE-00072-00032736-00033311 carl 3cAt6CuDbIE-00073-00033312-00033646 i don't know probably they're probably 3cAt6CuDbIE-00074-00033647-00033983 writers smoking again and probably sweet 3cAt6CuDbIE-00075-00033984-00034183 shooting out some people [__] some 3cAt6CuDbIE-00076-00034184-00034462 probably next one's eating 3cAt6CuDbIE-00077-00034463-00034767 chit chat you're seeing a seville family 3cAt6CuDbIE-00078-00034768-00036300 on the street i told 3cAt6CuDbIE-00079-00036301-00036483 [Music] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00080-00036484-00036743 sweet 3cAt6CuDbIE-00081-00036744-00037062 before the seville go over to elements 3cAt6CuDbIE-00082-00037063-00037230 if you needed 3cAt6CuDbIE-00083-00037231-00037607 peace 3cAt6CuDbIE-00084-00037608-00037830 okay i'll grab a car and let's go to 3cAt6CuDbIE-00085-00037831-00038039 speed guys 3cAt6CuDbIE-00086-00038040-00038399 sweet mine maybe 3cAt6CuDbIE-00087-00038400-00038735 let's go home [__] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00088-00038736-00039255 the car almost dropped off 3cAt6CuDbIE-00089-00039256-00039387 it's higher 3cAt6CuDbIE-00090-00039388-00039767 [Applause] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00091-00039768-00039876 oh my god 3cAt6CuDbIE-00092-00039877-00040246 [Applause] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00093-00040247-00040583 sweet don't die on me boy i'm coming 3cAt6CuDbIE-00094-00040584-00040847 as fast as i can 3cAt6CuDbIE-00095-00040848-00041367 [Applause] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00096-00041368-00041679 not like a rider things the several 3cAt6CuDbIE-00097-00041680-00043471 families have seen it around 3cAt6CuDbIE-00098-00043472-00043830 [__] i died okay i just 3cAt6CuDbIE-00099-00043831-00044199 keep until i get back here again 3cAt6CuDbIE-00100-00044200-00046295 come back and see these [__] up 3cAt6CuDbIE-00101-00046296-00046646 you my migraine 3cAt6CuDbIE-00102-00046647-00047079 caller [__] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00103-00047080-00047407 you better go over back home 3cAt6CuDbIE-00104-00047408-00047695 back this time problem you will not get 3cAt6CuDbIE-00105-00047696-00048495 killed again 3cAt6CuDbIE-00106-00048496-00048902 die betrayed 3cAt6CuDbIE-00107-00048903-00049527 [__] i'm own game betrays me 3cAt6CuDbIE-00108-00049528-00049895 another one 3cAt6CuDbIE-00109-00049896-00050215 there's more people 3cAt6CuDbIE-00110-00050216-00050895 died loser phone ringing 3cAt6CuDbIE-00111-00050896-00051223 where which phone oh my phone my brother 3cAt6CuDbIE-00112-00051224-00051630 get a car okay 3cAt6CuDbIE-00113-00051632-00052182 i have a car right over here 3cAt6CuDbIE-00114-00052183-00053263 easy get in guys [__] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00115-00053264-00054711 okay 3cAt6CuDbIE-00116-00054712-00055311 yeah it looks like a microscope 3cAt6CuDbIE-00117-00055312-00055863 really enough in the whole what 3cAt6CuDbIE-00118-00055864-00056303 did you die 3cAt6CuDbIE-00119-00056304-00056511 don't worry girl i don't drive as bad as 3cAt6CuDbIE-00120-00056512-00056703 cj 3cAt6CuDbIE-00121-00056704-00057230 really oh who's this girl by the way 3cAt6CuDbIE-00122-00057232-00057471 i'm sorry baby man this set tripping is 3cAt6CuDbIE-00123-00057472-00057742 killing the families okay 3cAt6CuDbIE-00124-00057744-00058015 thank you bro johnson boy hey i got 3cAt6CuDbIE-00125-00058016-00058166 unfinished business 3cAt6CuDbIE-00126-00058167-00058630 big love thank you my boy 3cAt6CuDbIE-00127-00058632-00059026 mission pass respect i like the music 3cAt6CuDbIE-00128-00059027-00059303 [Music] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00129-00059304-00059591 okay let's play another one she's a 3cAt6CuDbIE-00130-00059591-00059879 really loud of you acting like you own 3cAt6CuDbIE-00131-00059879-00060053 me i can see who i want to see 3cAt6CuDbIE-00132-00060054-00060247 [Music] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00133-00060248-00060519 oh what a no-good narrow-minded 3cAt6CuDbIE-00134-00060520-00060711 hypocrite gangbanger telling me what is 3cAt6CuDbIE-00135-00060712-00060847 right and what is wrong 3cAt6CuDbIE-00136-00060848-00061079 let me guess sweet senseless killing 3cAt6CuDbIE-00137-00061079-00061254 right but a boyfriend from the south 3cAt6CuDbIE-00138-00061255-00061359 side wrong 3cAt6CuDbIE-00139-00061360-00061853 something really happens 3cAt6CuDbIE-00140-00061854-00063023 [Music] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00141-00063024-00064482 well actually yes you 3cAt6CuDbIE-00142-00064483-00065111 is 3cAt6CuDbIE-00143-00065112-00065479 okay i'll go there go to the garage 3cAt6CuDbIE-00144-00065479-00065847 in what will of the field littlefield 3cAt6CuDbIE-00145-00065848-00066206 what is that where there's villos 3cAt6CuDbIE-00146-00066207-00066559 in the field 3cAt6CuDbIE-00147-00066560-00066919 by the way i never understand why 3cAt6CuDbIE-00148-00066920-00067287 this car over here that parker would 3cAt6CuDbIE-00149-00067288-00067494 there it is it looks like ryder's car or 3cAt6CuDbIE-00150-00067495-00067663 something like that 3cAt6CuDbIE-00151-00067664-00068023 why does it have like 3cAt6CuDbIE-00152-00068024-00068375 drinks at the back 3cAt6CuDbIE-00153-00068376-00068711 do you drink so much [__] you know why 3cAt6CuDbIE-00154-00068712-00069006 for either 3cAt6CuDbIE-00155-00069007-00069311 probably does 3cAt6CuDbIE-00156-00069312-00069745 okay let's go 3cAt6CuDbIE-00157-00069746-00069879 [Music] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00158-00069880-00070567 and we're here villa field 3cAt6CuDbIE-00159-00070568-00070991 what is this car so you must be sweets 3cAt6CuDbIE-00160-00070992-00071255 bro huh yeah i am said you might be 3cAt6CuDbIE-00161-00071256-00071494 looking for a car that 3cAt6CuDbIE-00162-00071495-00071735 i owe him bounces from way back so here 3cAt6CuDbIE-00163-00071736-00071862 this should do the trick 3cAt6CuDbIE-00164-00071863-00072199 okay boy i don't give a [__] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00165-00072200-00072415 custom spring should see you hopping all 3cAt6CuDbIE-00166-00072416-00072503 the way home 3cAt6CuDbIE-00167-00072504-00072831 try her out very popular with the essays 3cAt6CuDbIE-00168-00072832-00073719 they compete 3cAt6CuDbIE-00169-00073720-00074047 i'll do what you asked for 3cAt6CuDbIE-00170-00074048-00074350 i'm not any time i don't want to 3cAt6CuDbIE-00171-00074351-00074655 back up the lower low rider 3cAt6CuDbIE-00172-00074656-00075006 into my garage 3cAt6CuDbIE-00173-00075007-00075382 what is this low rider dude by the way 3cAt6CuDbIE-00174-00075383-00075838 local local paint jobs 3cAt6CuDbIE-00175-00075839-00076079 that's looking upgrade tap to continue 3cAt6CuDbIE-00176-00076080-00076191 tap to go 3cAt6CuDbIE-00177-00076192-00076526 to it uh 3cAt6CuDbIE-00178-00076527-00077111 nitro will be good 3cAt6CuDbIE-00179-00077112-00077903 2x nitro or 1 000 3cAt6CuDbIE-00180-00077904-00078215 actually 3cAt6CuDbIE-00181-00078216-00078735 what why am i supposed to get 3cAt6CuDbIE-00182-00078736-00078967 i'm not sure what i'm supposed to get 3cAt6CuDbIE-00183-00078968-00079550 we'll give you the low rider meet them 3cAt6CuDbIE-00184-00079551-00081071 okay let's go 3cAt6CuDbIE-00185-00081072-00081399 did you say buster 3cAt6CuDbIE-00186-00081400-00081791 isn't that what ryder always says to you 3cAt6CuDbIE-00187-00081792-00082206 you know what okay 3cAt6CuDbIE-00188-00082207-00082799 let's go this way 3cAt6CuDbIE-00189-00082800-00083679 what is this 3cAt6CuDbIE-00190-00083680-00083918 [__] sorry about that i lost some 3cAt6CuDbIE-00191-00083919-00084401 technical difficulties 3cAt6CuDbIE-00192-00084402-00085391 [Music] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00193-00085392-00086831 to continue 3cAt6CuDbIE-00194-00086832-00087079 you ever do a drive-by yeah show some 3cAt6CuDbIE-00195-00087080-00087143 promise 3cAt6CuDbIE-00196-00087144-00087423 later dude hey y'all fun to bounce okay 3cAt6CuDbIE-00197-00087424-00087494 tommy 3cAt6CuDbIE-00198-00087495-00088847 what's the deal man i hate those 3cAt6CuDbIE-00199-00088848-00089326 so what do i do here 3cAt6CuDbIE-00200-00089327-00089735 [__] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00201-00089736-00090526 early look i'm trying 3cAt6CuDbIE-00202-00090527-00091082 good 3cAt6CuDbIE-00203-00091083-00091943 good 3cAt6CuDbIE-00204-00091944-00092255 good 3cAt6CuDbIE-00205-00092256-00093238 early sorry 3cAt6CuDbIE-00206-00093239-00093882 nice all right 3cAt6CuDbIE-00207-00093883-00094926 early 3cAt6CuDbIE-00208-00094927-00095477 early again bad 3cAt6CuDbIE-00209-00095478-00096682 [Music] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00210-00096683-00096979 good 3cAt6CuDbIE-00211-00096980-00097503 [Music] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00212-00097504-00097950 i'm bad 3cAt6CuDbIE-00213-00097951-00099482 i'm going dramatic my best man 3cAt6CuDbIE-00214-00099483-00099871 nice 3cAt6CuDbIE-00215-00099872-00100238 what hey homie maybe you should take up 3cAt6CuDbIE-00216-00100239-00100638 golf or some [__] like that 3cAt6CuDbIE-00217-00100639-00101006 screw you 3cAt6CuDbIE-00218-00101007-00101223 lost the low riot challenge i didn't 3cAt6CuDbIE-00219-00101224-00101423 know 3cAt6CuDbIE-00220-00101424-00103823 great thank you 3cAt6CuDbIE-00222-00107959-00108654 okay 3cAt6CuDbIE-00223-00108655-00108958 okay let's speak caesar 3cAt6CuDbIE-00224-00108959-00109319 my name 3cAt6CuDbIE-00225-00109320-00109647 your is i honor her she's my girl for 3cAt6CuDbIE-00226-00109648-00109790 life this is why i stopped you from 3cAt6CuDbIE-00227-00109791-00110063 being skinned just then 3cAt6CuDbIE-00228-00110064-00110295 you got a problem with me fine we don't 3cAt6CuDbIE-00229-00110296-00110439 have to be friends 3cAt6CuDbIE-00230-00110440-00113383 i would like to be friends 3cAt6CuDbIE-00231-00113383-00116110 to get it 3cAt6CuDbIE-00232-00116111-00118599 i don't know but probably 3cAt6CuDbIE-00233-00118600-00118854 oh yeah it's not come back between 12 3cAt6CuDbIE-00234-00118855-00118990 a.m 3cAt6CuDbIE-00235-00118991-00119327 and 20 i'm going to skip guys okay it's 3cAt6CuDbIE-00236-00119328-00119623 now 12 a.m because it's close to 20. 3cAt6CuDbIE-00237-00119624-00119943 if you hear palm invasion 3cAt6CuDbIE-00238-00119944-00120086 that's the water mission stall so we are 3cAt6CuDbIE-00239-00120088-00120343 gonna unveil some month 3cAt6CuDbIE-00240-00120344-00120863 house is that what this is about 3cAt6CuDbIE-00241-00120864-00121239 probably 3cAt6CuDbIE-00242-00121240-00122863 [__] man why water 3cAt6CuDbIE-00243-00122864-00123327 okay let's 3cAt6CuDbIE-00244-00123328-00126014 [__] go you yeah [__] you man 3cAt6CuDbIE-00245-00126015-00126343 get in fool 3cAt6CuDbIE-00246-00126344-00126790 okay you know what she doing 3cAt6CuDbIE-00247-00126791-00127095 but i can't park the truck near the 3cAt6CuDbIE-00248-00127096-00127483 house and get the gun before 3cAt6CuDbIE-00249-00127483-00128883 daylight 3cAt6CuDbIE-00250-00128883-00129558 [__] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00251-00129559-00130278 mr right that's where i am 3cAt6CuDbIE-00252-00130279-00130663 okay let's go 3cAt6CuDbIE-00253-00130664-00131599 daylight 7 20. 3cAt6CuDbIE-00254-00131600-00133083 okay can this go faster 3cAt6CuDbIE-00255-00133084-00133943 [__] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00256-00133944-00134990 if you have to be down there 3cAt6CuDbIE-00257-00134991-00135239 you shut me up so i'm pretty sure it 3cAt6CuDbIE-00258-00135240-00135439 shook me here but apparently not it go 3cAt6CuDbIE-00259-00135440-00136119 down a little bit 3cAt6CuDbIE-00260-00136120-00136366 this one is almost pointed out i'm 3cAt6CuDbIE-00261-00136367-00136447 pretty sure 3cAt6CuDbIE-00262-00136448-00136646 there's no 3cAt6CuDbIE-00263-00136647-00137283 [Music] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00264-00137284-00137702 okay 3cAt6CuDbIE-00265-00137703-00138087 let's go rider 3cAt6CuDbIE-00266-00138088-00138683 sorry for doing these damages to the car 3cAt6CuDbIE-00267-00138684-00138990 okay okay we're here finally 3cAt6CuDbIE-00268-00138991-00139375 to show you how hold up 3cAt6CuDbIE-00269-00139376-00139631 let's creep in grab the guns and bounce 3cAt6CuDbIE-00270-00139632-00139807 up 3cAt6CuDbIE-00271-00139808-00140614 ninja style ninja stuff 3cAt6CuDbIE-00272-00140615-00141431 [Music] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00273-00141432-00141831 you must remain sound at all times 3cAt6CuDbIE-00274-00141832-00142071 okay don't tap the lower left corner of 3cAt6CuDbIE-00275-00142072-00142151 the screen 3cAt6CuDbIE-00276-00142152-00142414 crouching if you make too much noise you 3cAt6CuDbIE-00277-00142415-00142790 will make the inhabitants of the house 3cAt6CuDbIE-00278-00142791-00142999 oh make sure the noise bar does not 3cAt6CuDbIE-00279-00143000-00143711 reach next time 3cAt6CuDbIE-00280-00143712-00144095 find the crate 3cAt6CuDbIE-00281-00144096-00144559 i'm trying to crouch 3cAt6CuDbIE-00282-00144560-00144871 how do i crouch again i forgot the 3cAt6CuDbIE-00283-00144872-00145439 crouch 3cAt6CuDbIE-00284-00145440-00146047 there we go grab the [__] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00285-00146048-00146790 take the guns back to the truck 3cAt6CuDbIE-00286-00146791-00147719 take the guns back to the track 3cAt6CuDbIE-00287-00147720-00148766 let's go 3cAt6CuDbIE-00288-00148767-00149575 you grab this great now 3cAt6CuDbIE-00289-00149576-00150719 get off my ridge you viet kong bastards 3cAt6CuDbIE-00290-00150720-00151319 okay 3cAt6CuDbIE-00291-00151320-00151726 there we go 3cAt6CuDbIE-00292-00151727-00152071 okay great why 3cAt6CuDbIE-00293-00152072-00152683 patch boxes for you may you smoke 3cAt6CuDbIE-00294-00152684-00153766 [__] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00295-00153767-00154311 don't make too much noise cj 3cAt6CuDbIE-00296-00154312-00154711 steve and call me bastards 3cAt6CuDbIE-00297-00154712-00155143 let's get up out of here [__] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00298-00155144-00155671 ryder where the hell you at man 3cAt6CuDbIE-00299-00155672-00155839 where is he mission failed did i manage 3cAt6CuDbIE-00300-00155840-00156351 to steal enough crates 3cAt6CuDbIE-00301-00156352-00157454 okay let's get on our box 3cAt6CuDbIE-00302-00157455-00157911 grab it let's go cj 3cAt6CuDbIE-00303-00157912-00158283 don't make any noise 3cAt6CuDbIE-00304-00158284-00159663 okay 3cAt6CuDbIE-00305-00159664-00160071 don't [__] get off my ridge you vietcong 3cAt6CuDbIE-00306-00160072-00161083 bastards 3cAt6CuDbIE-00307-00161084-00161551 great 3cAt6CuDbIE-00308-00161552-00161959 i'm trying not to wake him 3cAt6CuDbIE-00309-00161960-00162647 cj don't make him up another one 3cAt6CuDbIE-00310-00162648-00163071 okay 3cAt6CuDbIE-00311-00163072-00164383 on two left 3cAt6CuDbIE-00312-00164384-00165295 [__] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00313-00165296-00165678 don't make any noise cj but he will wake 3cAt6CuDbIE-00314-00165679-00166295 up 3cAt6CuDbIE-00315-00166296-00166799 let's go cj 3cAt6CuDbIE-00316-00166800-00167423 and call me bastards no 3cAt6CuDbIE-00317-00167424-00167678 let's get up out of here get off my rip 3cAt6CuDbIE-00318-00167679-00167790 you vietcong 3cAt6CuDbIE-00319-00167791-00168078 get out my rig you vietcong what does it 3cAt6CuDbIE-00320-00168079-00168188 call 3cAt6CuDbIE-00321-00168189-00169511 [Music] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00322-00169512-00170590 i know the booster cups 3cAt6CuDbIE-00323-00170591-00172207 i didn't mean to wake him up 3cAt6CuDbIE-00324-00172208-00172559 i just got this paint space so that we 3cAt6CuDbIE-00325-00172560-00172790 can spray this and then 3cAt6CuDbIE-00326-00172791-00173951 they will not know 3cAt6CuDbIE-00327-00173952-00175223 okay that would be good 3cAt6CuDbIE-00328-00175224-00175583 for waking me up okay ryder 3cAt6CuDbIE-00329-00175584-00175847 i didn't mean to wake him up he's trying 3cAt6CuDbIE-00330-00175848-00177975 to get all the boxes out of the house 3cAt6CuDbIE-00331-00177976-00178263 yeah that's everything in his house this 3cAt6CuDbIE-00332-00178264-00178823 time 3cAt6CuDbIE-00333-00178824-00179479 great you loved all of his [__] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00334-00179480-00182047 [Music] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00335-00182048-00182311 forget you one day you gonna wish you 3cAt6CuDbIE-00336-00182312-00182471 hadn't pissed me off 3cAt6CuDbIE-00337-00182472-00182695 did i hear something sound like the 3cAt6CuDbIE-00338-00182696-00182919 buster complaining again 3cAt6CuDbIE-00339-00182920-00183614 man this is childish 3cAt6CuDbIE-00340-00183615-00184038 up then 3cAt6CuDbIE-00341-00184039-00184271 you don't have to talk you don't need to 3cAt6CuDbIE-00342-00184272-00184471 shut up 3cAt6CuDbIE-00343-00184472-00185014 okay right 3cAt6CuDbIE-00344-00185015-00185278 we rap this time him it's not even 3cAt6CuDbIE-00345-00185279-00185375 getting 3cAt6CuDbIE-00346-00185376-00185878 caught the truck inside the [__] up 3cAt6CuDbIE-00347-00185879-00186638 all this [__] i've got 3cAt6CuDbIE-00348-00186639-00186935 great okay let's just ready let's get 3cAt6CuDbIE-00349-00186936-00187054 out here 3cAt6CuDbIE-00350-00187055-00187423 yeah that was a real breeze 3cAt6CuDbIE-00351-00187424-00187663 say cj you got to get it in your head 3cAt6CuDbIE-00352-00187664-00187750 this is everyday 3cAt6CuDbIE-00353-00187751-00188159 [__] homie okay 3cAt6CuDbIE-00354-00188160-00188375 you can perform global glory as neither 3cAt6CuDbIE-00355-00188376-00188599 not on the mission 3cAt6CuDbIE-00356-00188600-00188775 many others can be broken into a good 3cAt6CuDbIE-00357-00188776-00189166 stallion from their own 3cAt6CuDbIE-00358-00189167-00189359 into getting this type of event to start 3cAt6CuDbIE-00359-00189360-00189566 to prove water 3cAt6CuDbIE-00360-00189567-00189783 okay load up the truck and then take it 3cAt6CuDbIE-00361-00189784-00190119 back to the lock cover 3cAt6CuDbIE-00362-00190120-00190483 okay look i'm tired i'll see you later 3cAt6CuDbIE-00363-00190484-00191063 okay 3cAt6CuDbIE-00364-00191064-00191359 okay we're back hopefully seriously 3cAt6CuDbIE-00365-00191360-00191883 we'll see 3cAt6CuDbIE-00366-00191884-00192350 again 3cAt6CuDbIE-00367-00192351-00192766 respect plus okay that was 10 of you 3cAt6CuDbIE-00368-00192767-00192895 like share comment subscribe to the 3cAt6CuDbIE-00369-00192896-00193095 channel hope to see you guys next time 3cAt6CuDbIE-00370-00193096-00193247 goodbye everybody hope to see you [__] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00371-00193248-00193743 this next time 3cAt6CuDbIE-00372-00193744-00194383 [Music] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00373-00194384-00195255 [Music] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00374-00195256-00195754 [Music] 3cAt6CuDbIE-00375-00195755-00196055 with 3dJEydhSgcQ-00000-00000000-00000224 operation Sunbird is successful from a 3dJEydhSgcQ-00001-00000225-00000470 number of different angles and building 3dJEydhSgcQ-00002-00000471-00000728 the the institutions and the agencies 3dJEydhSgcQ-00003-00000729-00000968 and training them but that comes with 3dJEydhSgcQ-00004-00000969-00001183 the actual results what did we achieve 3dJEydhSgcQ-00005-00001184-00001472 and in this case we had significant 3dJEydhSgcQ-00006-00001473-00001820 rests 24 arrests based on 11 red notices 3dJEydhSgcQ-00007-00001821-00002150 that were issued by Interpol we also had 3dJEydhSgcQ-00008-00002151-00002429 significant number of fugitives that 3dJEydhSgcQ-00009-00002430-00002648 were identified and located in the 3dJEydhSgcQ-00010-00002649-00002950 region lastly some of those fugitives 3dJEydhSgcQ-00011-00002951-00003278 are suspected terrorist fighters and 3dJEydhSgcQ-00012-00003279-00003565 that is an important thing for the 3dJEydhSgcQ-00013-00003567-00003803 member countries and the security of the 3dJEydhSgcQ-00014-00003804-00004034 borders to ensure the people do not move 3dJEydhSgcQ-00015-00004035-00004301 freely through their that our suspects 3dJEydhSgcQ-00016-00004302-00004592 in this particular instance project 3dJEydhSgcQ-00017-00004593-00004874 Sundberg is able to continue supporting 3dJEydhSgcQ-00018-00004875-00005069 those member countries by providing 3dJEydhSgcQ-00019-00005070-00005293 additional information investigative 3dJEydhSgcQ-00020-00005294-00005554 leads and using Interpol capabilities to 3dJEydhSgcQ-00021-00005555-00005834 the best extent possible 3eivB3kGxYI-00000-00000000-00000900 foreign 3eivB3kGxYI-00001-00000901-00001169 commission president Ursula Vander layan 3eivB3kGxYI-00002-00001170-00001391 arrived in Kiev on May 9 for talks with 3eivB3kGxYI-00003-00001392-00001612 Ukrainian president velodimir zielinski 3eivB3kGxYI-00004-00001613-00001805 after a new wave of Russian airstrikes 3eivB3kGxYI-00005-00001805-00002063 on the capitol the trip falls on the 3eivB3kGxYI-00006-00002064-00002231 European Union's Europe day which 3eivB3kGxYI-00007-00002232-00002410 Ukraine adopted as its own on Monday 3eivB3kGxYI-00008-00002411-00002626 underlining its ambition to join Western 3eivB3kGxYI-00009-00002627-00002831 institutions after applying to join the 3eivB3kGxYI-00010-00002832-00003118 EU last year following Russia's invasion 3eivB3kGxYI-00011-00003119-00003365 vonderland paid respects to Ukrainian 3eivB3kGxYI-00012-00003365-00003617 soldiers killed since 2014 and then 3eivB3kGxYI-00013-00003618-00003809 visited outdoor exhibition of captured 3eivB3kGxYI-00014-00003810-00004019 Russian Hardware placed on St Michael's 3eivB3kGxYI-00015-00004020-00004120 Square 3eivB3kGxYI-00016-00004121-00004349 good to be back in Kiev 3eivB3kGxYI-00017-00004350-00004529 where the values we hold dear are 3eivB3kGxYI-00018-00004530-00004715 defended every day she said on Twitter 3eivB3kGxYI-00019-00004716-00004913 alongside a photograph of her arriving 3eivB3kGxYI-00020-00004914-00005051 by train 3eivB3kGxYI-00021-00005052-00005236 she began her highly symbolic trip 3eivB3kGxYI-00022-00005237-00005381 shortly before Russian President 3eivB3kGxYI-00023-00005382-00005615 Vladimir Putin marked the Soviet victory 3eivB3kGxYI-00024-00005616-00005825 in World War II with an annual military 3eivB3kGxYI-00025-00005826-00006503 parade and speech on moscow's Red Square 3eivB3kGxYI-00026-00006504-00007146 thank you 3eivB3kGxYI-00028-00010315-00011014 famous photo 3eivB3kGxYI-00029-00011015-00011574 of this style Bridge which our Defenders 3eivB3kGxYI-00030-00011575-00012619 destroyed in order to prevent Russians 3eivB3kGxYI-00031-00012620-00014533 it's more than one thousand years old 3eivB3kGxYI-00032-00014534-00014957 it was also 1000 years old 3eivB3kGxYI-00033-00014958-00015190 foreign 3eivB3kGxYI-00035-00020155-00020470 [Music] 3eOA72_7Sn8-00000-00000000-00000936 [Music] 3eOA72_7Sn8-00001-00000938-00001137 [Applause] 3eOA72_7Sn8-00002-00001138-00001491 [Music] 3eOA72_7Sn8-00003-00001492-00001714 hmm 3eOA72_7Sn8-00004-00001714-00004283 [Music] 3eOA72_7Sn8-00005-00004284-00004532 oh 3eOA72_7Sn8-00006-00004533-00005683 [Music] 3eOA72_7Sn8-00007-00005684-00006357 wow 3eOA72_7Sn8-00008-00006358-00007083 [Music] 3eOA72_7Sn8-00009-00007084-00007259 bye 3eOA72_7Sn8-00010-00007261-00008483 [Music] 3eOA72_7Sn8-00011-00008484-00009193 okay 3eOA72_7Sn8-00012-00009194-00009883 [Music] 3eOA72_7Sn8-00013-00009884-00010017 you 3eOA72_7Sn8-00014-00010018-00011283 [Music] 3eOA72_7Sn8-00015-00011284-00011744 it's 3eOA72_7Sn8-00016-00011745-00012719 [Music] 3eOA72_7Sn8-00017-00012720-00013079 ah 3eOA72_7Sn8-00018-00013080-00014721 [Music] 3f54nrcBlCM-00000-00000014-00000296 welcome to another day of algebra today 3f54nrcBlCM-00001-00000297-00000416 we're graphing the line through the 3f54nrcBlCM-00002-00000417-00000790 point six two and negative seven one 3f54nrcBlCM-00003-00000791-00001070 first we go forward six on the x-axis 3f54nrcBlCM-00004-00001071-00001339 and up two and that's our first point 3f54nrcBlCM-00005-00001340-00001723 next we go back seven and up one and 3f54nrcBlCM-00006-00001725-00001979 that's our second point we connect our 3f54nrcBlCM-00007-00001980-00002284 points to make our line notice that from 3f54nrcBlCM-00008-00002285-00002483 these points our resulting line isn't 3f54nrcBlCM-00009-00002484-00002756 very steep 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00000-00000000-00000221 all right what's going on guys okay with 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00001-00000222-00000388 another PVP build for the Firestone 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00002-00000389-00000563 patch I'm on Magic can I comment this 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00003-00000564-00001025 time with a four proc PVP build back bar 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00004-00001026-00001235 the test from perfect die stuff which 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00005-00001236-00001378 needs a good amount of single Tire 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00006-00001379-00001601 Damage you can easy proc it with 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00007-00001602-00001823 elemental susceptibility which applies 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00008-00001823-00002092 burning chilled and concussion really 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00009-00002093-00002368 powerful on this patch front bar way of 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00010-00002369-00002645 fire next set is plague Slinger which 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00011-00002646-00002849 needs a ton of poison damage when you 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00012-00002850-00003047 take damage some of the skiver crops 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00013-00003048-00003299 which will launch 5 poison boards or 5 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00014-00003300-00003653 Seconds the 3.3k and it's unbuffed just 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00015-00003654-00003935 compare it with Red Mountain Red 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00016-00003936-00004181 Mountain Deeds around to 8K 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00017-00004182-00004529 but only it once placing a hits five 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00018-00004530-00004859 times and total of 15K poison damage 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00019-00004860-00005051 really powerful 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00020-00005052-00005243 proc set 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00021-00005244-00005454 it's monster 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00022-00005455-00005693 singer type pressure we are kind of 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00023-00005694-00005818 squished with this build though not 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00024-00005819-00006017 gonna lie so if you prefer a little bit 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00025-00006018-00006191 more tankiness go with running cry on my 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00026-00006192-00006329 spam on the back bar instead of the 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00027-00006330-00006563 potential perfected eye stuff and with 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00028-00006564-00006814 my crew maybe a smooth thick that kind 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00029-00006815-00007210 of stuff armor types three heavy 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00030-00007211-00007481 to medium 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00031-00007481-00007660 and two light 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00032-00007661-00008167 one sturdy one will fitted the rest open 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00033-00008168-00008405 ER jewelry to spare damage and one 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00034-00008406-00008669 magical reading Loop front bar two maces 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00035-00008670-00008896 for extra pen known sharp flame poison 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00036-00008897-00009160 and back by defending eye stuff with the 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00037-00009161-00009395 escapist's points Guild's front bar 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00038-00009396-00009610 Karma Hunter for minor berserk major 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00039-00009611-00009821 prophecy and Slayer makes a three 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00040-00009822-00009910 percent 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00041-00009911-00010145 spell damage are slaughtered 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00042-00010146-00010421 then stalking blast bones and spammable 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00043-00010422-00010642 still hungry scythe it's a good amount 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00044-00010643-00010889 of heavy damage and heals you more to 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00045-00010890-00011045 the coil for heating and a lot of 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00046-00011046-00011242 stamina Magica region degeneration for 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00047-00011243-00011495 major sorcery and dawnbreak of smiteing 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00048-00011496-00011795 which is also our CC by the way 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00049-00011796-00011999 Bank bar Elemental susceptibility for 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00050-00012000-00012221 major Beach burning chilled and 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00051-00012222-00012460 concussion uh chill prox minor bottles 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00052-00012461-00012641 another 10 percent executive damage and 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00053-00012642-00012851 concussion which pokes minor 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00054-00012852-00013043 vulnerability for another five percent 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00055-00013044-00013307 extra damage racing its time is now 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00056-00013308-00013603 removable resistant Flash and spur steel 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00057-00013604-00013858 summons armor resistance buff Spirit 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00058-00013859-00014141 Guardian for 10 damage mitigation and 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00059-00014141-00014393 heating and big bar is defense ultimate 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00060-00014394-00014621 Goliath alternative go with deep 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00061-00014622-00014879 surgical ultimate Temple guard for minor 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00062-00014880-00015071 protection should be probably even 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00063-00015072-00015185 better 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00064-00015186-00015497 race Khajiit for Isotopes and crit 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00065-00015497-00015833 damage Health Magica stem and region 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00066-00015834-00016121 wonders the ATO for Magical region from 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00067-00016122-00016366 Mercedes vs buff food 44 points in 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00068-00016368-00016780 Magicka and the rest in health potions 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00069-00016781-00017129 denomatize the potions CPS biting our 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00070-00017130-00017393 mastered arms Ironclad and do this 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00071-00017394-00017644 rebuff Red One Celebrity system by 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00072-00017645-00017993 suffering pains refuge and slippery 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00073-00017994-00018221 quick talk about one PVP combination 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00074-00018222-00018425 people for surf over surface Against 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00075-00018426-00018677 Time and immense susceptibility and 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00076-00018678-00018797 degeneration 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00077-00018798-00019079 then start with stocky blast bones as 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00078-00019080-00019307 far as possible like this we increase 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00079-00019308-00019636 our damage Step Closer Stone breaker 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00080-00019637-00019972 into scythe 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00081-00019973-00020135 that's it with the video thanks for 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00082-00020136-00020308 watching have a nice day enjoy the MP4 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00083-00020309-00020483 touch and I'll see you hopefully in the 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00084-00020484-00021331 next one peace 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00085-00021332-00021917 [Music] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00086-00021918-00022041 foreign 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00087-00022042-00023431 [Music] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00088-00023432-00025313 [Music] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00089-00025314-00025990 [Music] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00090-00025991-00026395 again 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00091-00026397-00027539 [Music] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00092-00027539-00027958 Rise Up From the Ashes 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00093-00027958-00028766 [Music] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00094-00028767-00029377 [Music] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00095-00029377-00029929 I'm still here 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00096-00029930-00031331 [Music] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00097-00031332-00033539 [Music] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00098-00033540-00033740 still healing 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00100-00037987-00038272 [Applause] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00101-00038273-00041215 [Music] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00102-00041216-00041521 I felt the pain 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00103-00041522-00042472 as she walked away from me 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00104-00042473-00043342 [Music] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00105-00043343-00043885 [Music] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00106-00043886-00044221 dreams played before 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00107-00044222-00044425 our eyes 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00109-00047849-00047872 [Applause] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00110-00047873-00048361 [Music] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00111-00048362-00049111 [Applause] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00112-00049112-00050652 [Music] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00113-00050653-00050853 foreign 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00114-00050854-00051708 [Music] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00115-00051709-00052114 I'm alone but I'm still feeling like 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00116-00052115-00052344 someone's with me 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00117-00052345-00052488 [Music] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00118-00052489-00052937 I know but I feel like you're here with 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00119-00052938-00052970 me 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00120-00052971-00053635 [Music] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00121-00053636-00053966 cause I know you're out there 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00122-00053966-00055471 [Music] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00123-00055472-00055984 [Applause] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00124-00055985-00056534 [Music] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00125-00056535-00056634 [Applause] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00126-00056635-00058111 [Music] 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00127-00058112-00058992 thank you 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00128-00058994-00059459 Sam is unfair cause I know you're out 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00129-00059460-00059659 there somewhere 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00130-00059660-00060054 patient waiting a new wear 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00131-00060055-00060454 feeling like your grip might slip too 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00132-00060455-00060804 soon but I'm running 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00133-00060805-00061223 chasing speed and gunning I'll be right 3hjC_Hb11Yk-00134-00061224-00061501 right there all 3iCoCnrXp1k-00000-00000000-00002375 [Music] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00001-00002376-00002637 toriel on how to play bones by Louis 3iCoCnrXp1k-00002-00002638-00002889 Watson this is per request of someone 3iCoCnrXp1k-00003-00002890-00003054 who has subscribed to my channel so I 3iCoCnrXp1k-00004-00003055-00003138 hope you enjoy this 3iCoCnrXp1k-00005-00003139-00003420 we have no capo your in standard tuning 3iCoCnrXp1k-00006-00003421-00003702 we have AC chord you can play it as a 3iCoCnrXp1k-00007-00003703-00003945 bar 3iCoCnrXp1k-00008-00003946-00004502 we have AC chord with a root and G 3iCoCnrXp1k-00009-00004503-00004796 and we have this deep chord with the 3iCoCnrXp1k-00010-00004797-00005195 root in the a 3iCoCnrXp1k-00011-00005196-00005432 so those are our chords here let's start 3iCoCnrXp1k-00012-00005433-00005576 out with the C with the written G's 3iCoCnrXp1k-00013-00005577-00005870 index is going to be on the first fret 3iCoCnrXp1k-00014-00005871-00006146 of the B string middle it's on the 3iCoCnrXp1k-00015-00006147-00006416 second fret of the d re fingers all the 3iCoCnrXp1k-00016-00006417-00006656 way up top on the third fret of the low 3iCoCnrXp1k-00017-00006656-00007013 E and your ring finger or pinky gets 3iCoCnrXp1k-00018-00007014-00007159 tucked under your ring finger on the 3iCoCnrXp1k-00019-00007161-00007430 third fret of the a you played all six 3iCoCnrXp1k-00020-00007431-00007769 rows there it's your c / g if you slide 3iCoCnrXp1k-00021-00007770-00008023 this exact shape up to the 3rd fret here 3iCoCnrXp1k-00022-00008025-00008392 with your index that is your D chord 3iCoCnrXp1k-00023-00008393-00008807 with your root in your a so d / pay and 3iCoCnrXp1k-00024-00008808-00009163 then you can play your G as a barre 3iCoCnrXp1k-00025-00009164-00009365 chord like this and borrow your third 3iCoCnrXp1k-00026-00009366-00009776 fret and doing your shape over here or 3iCoCnrXp1k-00027-00009777-00010082 we can play just with a standard move in 3iCoCnrXp1k-00028-00010083-00010203 G 3iCoCnrXp1k-00029-00010204-00010572 so you'd have your index and your index 3iCoCnrXp1k-00030-00010573-00010728 is gonna be on the second fret of the a 3iCoCnrXp1k-00031-00010729-00011015 noodles on the third fret of the low E 3iCoCnrXp1k-00032-00011016-00011334 ring fingers on the third fret of the B 3iCoCnrXp1k-00033-00011335-00011631 and your pinkies on the third fret of 3iCoCnrXp1k-00034-00011632-00011933 the high you play all six strings 3iCoCnrXp1k-00035-00011934-00012103 [Music] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00036-00012104-00012292 okay so those are the basic chords we 3iCoCnrXp1k-00037-00012293-00012517 need to know I'll also show you the 3iCoCnrXp1k-00038-00012518-00012863 chorus which has a B minor seven an E 3iCoCnrXp1k-00039-00012863-00013121 minor seven and a variation of the C but 3iCoCnrXp1k-00040-00013122-00013241 we'll talk about those when you get to 3iCoCnrXp1k-00041-00013241-00013457 the chorus here so for now we're going 3iCoCnrXp1k-00042-00013458-00013691 to talk about the verse and the verse 3iCoCnrXp1k-00043-00013691-00013835 we're going to start out on our G chord 3iCoCnrXp1k-00044-00013836-00014230 which sounds like this so you're gonna 3iCoCnrXp1k-00045-00014231-00014604 strum down down 3iCoCnrXp1k-00046-00014605-00014891 then we're gonna go to our C / D 3iCoCnrXp1k-00047-00014893-00015284 variation or sorry our D / a variation 3iCoCnrXp1k-00048-00015285-00015916 same strumming so down down 3iCoCnrXp1k-00049-00015918-00016296 then back to our C root G 3iCoCnrXp1k-00050-00016297-00016341 [Applause] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00051-00016343-00016547 [Music] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00052-00016548-00016633 Soji 3iCoCnrXp1k-00053-00016634-00016978 [Music] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00054-00016979-00017275 see 3iCoCnrXp1k-00055-00017276-00017655 [Applause] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00056-00017656-00017837 to do 3iCoCnrXp1k-00057-00017838-00017906 see 3iCoCnrXp1k-00058-00017907-00018058 [Applause] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00059-00018059-00018630 [Music] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00060-00018631-00018716 see 3iCoCnrXp1k-00061-00018717-00019248 [Music] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00062-00019249-00019524 in case that strumming is yes 3iCoCnrXp1k-00063-00019525-00021508 [Music] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00064-00021509-00021719 okay so that's how you play the verse 3iCoCnrXp1k-00065-00021720-00021949 and there's a couple verses in that song 3iCoCnrXp1k-00066-00021950-00022244 so for the chorus we need this B minor 3iCoCnrXp1k-00067-00022245-00022442 seven so you can have your index the 3iCoCnrXp1k-00068-00022443-00022622 second fret of the a that's the second 3iCoCnrXp1k-00069-00022623-00022874 string down there middle finger is gonna 3iCoCnrXp1k-00070-00022875-00023075 be on the second fret of the g that's 3iCoCnrXp1k-00071-00023076-00023330 your third string up and then your ring 3iCoCnrXp1k-00072-00023331-00023528 fingers all the way up on the third fret 3iCoCnrXp1k-00073-00023529-00023810 of the high E 3iCoCnrXp1k-00074-00023811-00024151 don't wanna play that lowly 3iCoCnrXp1k-00075-00024152-00024455 for your Imai nurse Evan go ahead and 3iCoCnrXp1k-00076-00024456-00024622 put those two fingers there just like we 3iCoCnrXp1k-00077-00024623-00024844 had for our G chord but now we're going 3iCoCnrXp1k-00078-00024845-00025091 to have our E minor shape over here so 3iCoCnrXp1k-00079-00025092-00025397 your index goes on the second fret of 3iCoCnrXp1k-00080-00025398-00025606 the D and your middle goes on the second 3iCoCnrXp1k-00081-00025607-00025787 fret of the a and you can play all six 3iCoCnrXp1k-00082-00025788-00025925 strings 3iCoCnrXp1k-00083-00025926-00026105 that's your E minor seven and then to 3iCoCnrXp1k-00084-00026106-00026295 get to your C variation here all you do 3iCoCnrXp1k-00085-00026295-00026460 is you slide that middle finger over to 3iCoCnrXp1k-00086-00026461-00026885 the third fret 3iCoCnrXp1k-00087-00026886-00027743 that's it so the chorus sounds like this 3iCoCnrXp1k-00088-00027744-00028202 [Applause] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00089-00028202-00028597 [Music] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00090-00028598-00029118 so we got our G chord 3iCoCnrXp1k-00091-00029119-00029332 to our B minor 7 3iCoCnrXp1k-00092-00029333-00029388 [Music] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00093-00029389-00029648 [Applause] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00094-00029649-00030014 very minor 3iCoCnrXp1k-00095-00030015-00030486 see variation 3iCoCnrXp1k-00096-00030487-00030708 strumming is going down 3iCoCnrXp1k-00097-00030710-00031160 [Music] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00098-00031161-00031487 to your B minor seven down 3iCoCnrXp1k-00099-00031488-00031504 [Applause] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00100-00031505-00031883 [Music] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00101-00031885-00032245 - you're a minor 7 3iCoCnrXp1k-00102-00032247-00032377 [Applause] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00103-00032379-00032952 [Music] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00104-00032953-00033205 so let's go through the chorus nice and 3iCoCnrXp1k-00105-00033206-00033363 slow one time for you here 3iCoCnrXp1k-00106-00033364-00033834 [Music] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00107-00033835-00034141 [Applause] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00108-00034142-00034840 [Music] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00109-00034841-00035171 goes right back into the verso 3iCoCnrXp1k-00110-00035172-00035760 [Music] 3iCoCnrXp1k-00111-00035761-00036067 that's all there is to it so that is 3iCoCnrXp1k-00112-00036068-00036214 going to be it for this tutorial I went 3iCoCnrXp1k-00113-00036215-00036346 through a lot and a short amount of time 3iCoCnrXp1k-00114-00036347-00036526 so if you have questions please feel 3iCoCnrXp1k-00115-00036527-00036727 free to comment if you'd like to see 3iCoCnrXp1k-00116-00036728-00036952 more tutorials I'd really appreciate if 3iCoCnrXp1k-00117-00036953-00037117 you would subscribe to my channel thank 3iCoCnrXp1k-00118-00037118-00037361 you for watching 3iYBAGru-rQ-00000-00001313-00001537 this episode of epicenter bitcoin is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00001-00001538-00001697 brought you by ledger makers of the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00002-00001698-00001907 ledger nano hardware wallet half piece 3iYBAGru-rQ-00003-00001907-00002045 of mind and knowing your private keys 3iYBAGru-rQ-00004-00002046-00002207 are protected by industry standard 3iYBAGru-rQ-00005-00002208-00002405 physical security go to ledger wallet 3iYBAGru-rQ-00006-00002406-00002608 calm learn more and use the offer code 3iYBAGru-rQ-00007-00002609-00002873 EB 09 a check out to get ten percent off 3iYBAGru-rQ-00008-00002874-00003370 your first order hi welcome to episode a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00009-00003371-00003506 bit pointless oh it's talks about the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00010-00003507-00003677 technologies projects and startups 3iYBAGru-rQ-00011-00003678-00003860 driving decentralization and the global 3iYBAGru-rQ-00012-00003861-00004049 cryptocurrency revolution my name is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00013-00004050-00004322 Sebastian creature and my name is Fran 3iYBAGru-rQ-00014-00004323-00004592 Fabian crane we're here today with one 3iYBAGru-rQ-00015-00004593-00004820 of our recurring guest which is Vitalik 3iYBAGru-rQ-00016-00004821-00005042 Batarian of course he doesn't need much 3iYBAGru-rQ-00017-00005043-00005201 of an introduction and he's been on the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00018-00005202-00005413 show before in December last year we 3iYBAGru-rQ-00019-00005414-00005654 talked about scalability no actually not 3iYBAGru-rQ-00020-00005655-00005854 so much we talked about proof of stake 3iYBAGru-rQ-00021-00005855-00006088 Ethier iam and it was a really great 3iYBAGru-rQ-00022-00006089-00006448 episode and many of you will have heard 3iYBAGru-rQ-00023-00006450-00006634 that if you miss just launched their 3iYBAGru-rQ-00024-00006636-00006973 frontier release finally so we have 3iYBAGru-rQ-00025-00006975-00007270 metallic on and soup looking forward to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00026-00007272-00007430 it hugely so thanks so much for coming 3iYBAGru-rQ-00027-00007431-00007598 on with Alec no thank you you're glad to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00028-00007598-00007898 be on yeah so actually their frontier 3iYBAGru-rQ-00029-00007898-00008139 launch to be recording this on on 3iYBAGru-rQ-00030-00008140-00008414 Saturday August first it was just two 3iYBAGru-rQ-00031-00008415-00008803 days ago and I was right where I am at 3iYBAGru-rQ-00032-00008804-00009085 this moment and you were there as well 3iYBAGru-rQ-00033-00009086-00009346 nemesis kind of how did that actually 3iYBAGru-rQ-00034-00009347-00009610 feel for you finally finally reach a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00035-00009611-00009731 step because it meant when you guys 3iYBAGru-rQ-00036-00009732-00009959 started their idea was it was going to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00037-00009960-00010109 be back in a few months no the launch 3iYBAGru-rQ-00038-00010110-00010394 yeah definitely relieved as you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-00039-00010395-00010685 we've this has been going on for quite a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00040-00010686-00010960 long time now and you know originally we 3iYBAGru-rQ-00041-00010961-00011171 thought were gonna launch back and well 3iYBAGru-rQ-00042-00011172-00011327 originally we thought we were going to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00043-00011328-00011596 launch back in february2014 and then it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00044-00011597-00011749 get capital i'm getting pushed back in 3iYBAGru-rQ-00045-00011750-00012020 back a couple of months and you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-00046-00012021-00012134 there definitely were times where it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00047-00012135-00012274 seems like it was just going to keep on 3iYBAGru-rQ-00048-00012275-00012556 going forever but you know finally it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00049-00012557-00012961 happened yes so we've moved past age two 3iYBAGru-rQ-00050-00012962-00013199 and we're on stage three now so that's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00051-00013200-00013346 great 3iYBAGru-rQ-00052-00013347-00013505 you guys were both there at the theorem 3iYBAGru-rQ-00053-00013506-00013718 office how did it feel to be there when 3iYBAGru-rQ-00054-00013719-00013937 when when it launched and when there was 3iYBAGru-rQ-00055-00013938-00014191 the genesis block yeah that's great any 3iYBAGru-rQ-00056-00014193-00014426 we had a quite a lot of people maybe 3iYBAGru-rQ-00057-00014427-00014569 somewhere from a third to a half of the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00058-00014571-00014837 dev team all together in Berlin got to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00059-00014838-00015263 celebrate a bit oh yeah I mean it's of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00060-00015263-00015509 course hard to know right how big of an 3iYBAGru-rQ-00061-00015510-00015677 event this was perhaps it was big into 3iYBAGru-rQ-00062-00015678-00015844 men perhaps not you know history will 3iYBAGru-rQ-00063-00015846-00016037 tell but it was definitely it was 3iYBAGru-rQ-00064-00016038-00016253 definitely nice no because having you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00065-00016254-00016412 know knowing people well who've worked 3iYBAGru-rQ-00066-00016413-00016565 on this and having seen your work on it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00067-00016566-00016703 for such a long time it was obviously 3iYBAGru-rQ-00068-00016704-00016907 yeah abstract thing and now it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00069-00016908-00017102 actually life but it's actually here and 3iYBAGru-rQ-00070-00017103-00017336 running so I think this is a huge change 3iYBAGru-rQ-00071-00017337-00017474 I'm sure it's going to be very 3iYBAGru-rQ-00072-00017475-00017669 motivating for people to now yeah I 3iYBAGru-rQ-00073-00017670-00018083 think so so let's get started by by 3iYBAGru-rQ-00074-00018084-00018221 talking about the frontier line so could 3iYBAGru-rQ-00075-00018222-00018419 you explain what is the frontier launch 3iYBAGru-rQ-00076-00018420-00018743 in the different steps of launching 3iYBAGru-rQ-00077-00018744-00019103 etherium sure so the frontier launch is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00078-00019104-00019361 the first time that there is going to be 3iYBAGru-rQ-00079-00019362-00019637 the live etherium network and you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-00080-00019638-00019963 ether is going to be valuable there's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00081-00019964-00020225 you know people are going to actually be 3iYBAGru-rQ-00082-00020226-00020444 able to develop applications on it and 3iYBAGru-rQ-00083-00020445-00020675 we'll have fun in they'll have 3iYBAGru-rQ-00084-00020676-00020888 confidence that the that whatever state 3iYBAGru-rQ-00085-00020889-00021086 they those applications end up happening 3iYBAGru-rQ-00086-00021087-00021335 actually will end up carrying forward so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00087-00021336-00021461 it's not just the test that that I'll 3iYBAGru-rQ-00088-00021462-00021718 get deleted in two or three months um 3iYBAGru-rQ-00089-00021719-00022154 it's a kind of very early developer 3iYBAGru-rQ-00090-00022155-00022358 focused lunch so we've done is we've 3iYBAGru-rQ-00091-00022359-00022502 sort of split up lunch into these 3iYBAGru-rQ-00092-00022503-00022682 multiple stages where the first stage is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00093-00022683-00023003 frontier where we you know explicitly 3iYBAGru-rQ-00094-00023004-00023350 say you know this is the crb dragons no 3iYBAGru-rQ-00095-00023351-00023630 safety guaranteed network it's it could 3iYBAGru-rQ-00096-00023631-00024112 easily end up in having bugs on it it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00097-00024113-00024500 just something something from for minors 3iYBAGru-rQ-00098-00024501-00024692 to help get the network started and for 3iYBAGru-rQ-00099-00024693-00024887 developers to start building on it you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00100-00024888-00025028 know the only interface is the command 3iYBAGru-rQ-00101-00025029-00025388 line so this is the sort of stage that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00102-00025389-00025574 we'd like to see the theory of network 3iYBAGru-rQ-00103-00025575-00025795 going for for a couple of months and if 3iYBAGru-rQ-00104-00025797-00025955 it goes for a couple of months without 3iYBAGru-rQ-00105-00025956-00026180 hitches then you know we'll move on to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00106-00026181-00026345 the next stage which we're calling to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00107-00026345-00026699 homestead and in a rigid 3iYBAGru-rQ-00108-00026700-00026945 the plan was that frontier would also be 3iYBAGru-rQ-00109-00026945-00027155 sort of quasi centralized so the durham 3iYBAGru-rQ-00110-00027156-00027293 foundation would be like checkpointing 3iYBAGru-rQ-00111-00027294-00027533 walks every day but we've decided 3iYBAGru-rQ-00112-00027533-00027686 they're a bunch of reasons why we can't 3iYBAGru-rQ-00113-00027687-00027889 really do that to that extent so we 3iYBAGru-rQ-00114-00027889-00028274 ended up delaying delaying friends here 3iYBAGru-rQ-00115-00028275-00028451 a bit more and pushing it to the point 3iYBAGru-rQ-00116-00028452-00028676 where it's kind of halfway to where we 3iYBAGru-rQ-00117-00028677-00028808 wanted hope said to be in the first 3iYBAGru-rQ-00118-00028808-00029138 place so differences between frontier 3iYBAGru-rQ-00119-00029139-00029399 and home homestead that remain or in to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00120-00029400-00029636 some extent marketing so it's kind of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00121-00029637-00029788 the difference between alpha and beta 3iYBAGru-rQ-00122-00029789-00030083 there are still are a few kind of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00123-00030083-00030343 default Killswitch features that are in 3iYBAGru-rQ-00124-00030344-00030830 in frontier so the main one is this 3iYBAGru-rQ-00125-00030831-00031019 thing that we're calling Canaries which 3iYBAGru-rQ-00126-00031020-00031112 is basically out there are a few 3iYBAGru-rQ-00127-00031113-00031354 contracts on the block chain and the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00128-00031355-00031645 court developers have the ability to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00129-00031645-00031864 send transactions through these 3iYBAGru-rQ-00130-00031866-00032095 contracts which basically mark a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00131-00032097-00032414 particular chain as being invalid in 3iYBAGru-rQ-00132-00032414-00032740 some way so you know if say the block 3iYBAGru-rQ-00133-00032741-00032918 chain Forks and we decide that one fork 3iYBAGru-rQ-00134-00032919-00033196 is valid and the other fork is invalid 3iYBAGru-rQ-00135-00033197-00033320 and it's just happening because one of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00136-00033321-00033506 the clients has a bug in it then we will 3iYBAGru-rQ-00137-00033507-00033659 launch a transaction which is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00138-00033660-00033812 specifically targeted to the bad chain 3iYBAGru-rQ-00139-00033813-00034109 which would basically eventually get 3iYBAGru-rQ-00140-00034110-00034321 into the blog chin and basically market 3iYBAGru-rQ-00141-00034322-00034564 as be as you know being wrong and and 3iYBAGru-rQ-00142-00034565-00034778 everyone will automatically stop mining 3iYBAGru-rQ-00143-00034779-00035048 on it so so people the clients thing 3iYBAGru-rQ-00144-00035049-00035323 will automatically stop mining exactly 3iYBAGru-rQ-00145-00035324-00035828 yes so that's something that's I mean 3iYBAGru-rQ-00146-00035829-00036083 it's centralization to some degree it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00147-00036084-00036215 there in frontier it's a kind of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00148-00036216-00036346 training wheel that's going to come off 3iYBAGru-rQ-00149-00036347-00037052 in homestead um so aside from that in 3iYBAGru-rQ-00150-00037053-00037568 hopes that is just going to have the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00151-00037569-00037715 software is going to continue to improve 3iYBAGru-rQ-00152-00037716-00038069 obviously it's the point where we start 3iYBAGru-rQ-00153-00038070-00038276 recommending that people actually start 3iYBAGru-rQ-00154-00038277-00038477 building you know more serious and walk 3iYBAGru-rQ-00155-00038478-00038773 through applications on it instead of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00156-00038774-00039146 basically just sort of your you very 3iYBAGru-rQ-00157-00039147-00039407 early development and testing step 3 is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00158-00039408-00039701 metropolis so this is where we release 3iYBAGru-rQ-00159-00039702-00039863 mist which is you know the thorium 3iYBAGru-rQ-00160-00039864-00040058 browser and a theory 3iYBAGru-rQ-00161-00040059-00040460 finally going to have a GUI yay um if 3iYBAGru-rQ-00162-00040461-00040625 you want to know you could actually 3iYBAGru-rQ-00163-00040626-00040856 download and use missed right now so you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00164-00040857-00041030 know there is a very early early version 3iYBAGru-rQ-00165-00041031-00041252 of missed it works there is a wall at 3iYBAGru-rQ-00166-00041253-00041405 animal extinct wall in that version of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00167-00041406-00041696 mist they work but there's still sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00168-00041697-00042041 very alpha stage and renata and we're 3iYBAGru-rQ-00169-00042042-00042233 not claiming that they're kind of ready 3iYBAGru-rQ-00170-00042234-00042422 for anything close to mainstream use at 3iYBAGru-rQ-00171-00042423-00042662 this point but you know at some point 3iYBAGru-rQ-00172-00042663-00042827 we're going to sort of formally released 3iYBAGru-rQ-00173-00042828-00043016 miss then yay people were able to use it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00174-00043017-00043211 is that also when the IDE comes out the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00175-00043212-00043621 mix ide the mix ID is out already it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00176-00043622-00043975 continuing to evolve over time but it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00177-00043976-00044206 and there is a version you can use it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00178-00044207-00044447 okay because there's some confusion on 3iYBAGru-rQ-00179-00044448-00044747 there at least for me is this what 3iYBAGru-rQ-00180-00044748-00044984 you're calling now LS 0 or is that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00181-00044985-00045335 something different so mix is a kind of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00182-00045336-00045479 piece of software that came out of a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00183-00045480-00045767 left 0 so L of 0 itself you know it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00184-00045768-00046010 just sort of severe a simple GUI for the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00185-00046011-00046498 C++ client and the sort of maine's of a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00186-00046499-00046754 direction that the C++ client is going 3iYBAGru-rQ-00187-00046755-00047018 to take ESPN for development and makes 3iYBAGru-rQ-00188-00047019-00047192 any kind of gooey that's aside for 3iYBAGru-rQ-00189-00047193-00047570 developing contracts missed is the thing 3iYBAGru-rQ-00190-00047571-00047858 that came out of Goa theriyum okay and 3iYBAGru-rQ-00191-00047859-00048104 so what other concerns but whether the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00192-00048105-00048404 components are being released with the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00193-00048405-00048659 frontier launch or what so there's some 3iYBAGru-rQ-00194-00048660-00048977 so other websites like stats etc is up 3iYBAGru-rQ-00195-00048978-00049214 being released now okay so frontier 3iYBAGru-rQ-00196-00049215-00049403 release includes number one the actual 3iYBAGru-rQ-00197-00049404-00050024 block chain um number two it include it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00198-00050025-00050546 includes the development tools man miss 3iYBAGru-rQ-00199-00050547-00051107 a mixed number it has two clients so the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00200-00051108-00051263 goal client is the one that's kind of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00201-00051264-00051620 the most audited and the manse the most 3iYBAGru-rQ-00202-00051621-00051911 likely to be to be sort of free of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00203-00051912-00052121 serious security issues C++ client is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00204-00052122-00052279 undergoing in Auto right now it should 3iYBAGru-rQ-00205-00052280-00052616 become more and more ready over the over 3iYBAGru-rQ-00206-00052616-00052754 the next month or so as the audit 3iYBAGru-rQ-00207-00052754-00053003 progresses the Python client is not 3iYBAGru-rQ-00208-00053004-00053360 audited but you know it's there you can 3iYBAGru-rQ-00209-00053361-00053444 theoretically run 3iYBAGru-rQ-00210-00053445-00053861 it sinks it sinks to watching so that's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00211-00053862-00054391 all in place um there's also a few of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00212-00054392-00054560 these sort of Statistics pages there is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00213-00054561-00054754 a stat see Steph calm is the one that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00214-00054755-00054902 we're running it's the sort of view of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00215-00054903-00055064 the entire network you can see the world 3iYBAGru-rQ-00216-00055065-00055340 map you can see you know nodes mining on 3iYBAGru-rQ-00217-00055341-00055478 pretty much every continent of the world 3iYBAGru-rQ-00218-00055479-00055991 map except for Antarctica but then those 3iYBAGru-rQ-00219-00055991-00056162 darn pegged penguins I heard they like 3iYBAGru-rQ-00220-00056163-00056861 an XT more or something um the then 3iYBAGru-rQ-00221-00056862-00057011 there are a bunch of the reporting 3iYBAGru-rQ-00222-00057012-00057182 services that are up already there's I 3iYBAGru-rQ-00223-00057183-00057575 think ether chainsaw org is already up 3iYBAGru-rQ-00224-00057576-00057779 so that's a third party services not 3iYBAGru-rQ-00225-00057779-00058022 being run by if dev no it's not being 3iYBAGru-rQ-00226-00058023-00058244 run by a bit slow cardi and you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-00227-00058245-00058379 it's a block explorer it's got all the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00228-00058379-00058523 blocks got the transactions and it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00229-00058524-00059258 counts it's going oh yeah so I had a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00230-00059259-00059696 question why what are the the utilities 3iYBAGru-rQ-00231-00059697-00059909 of having different clients like why I 3iYBAGru-rQ-00232-00059910-00060146 go client and a Python client in C++ 3iYBAGru-rQ-00233-00060147-00060505 line there are few reasons behind that I 3iYBAGru-rQ-00234-00060507-00060986 and one point is that it's kind of there 3iYBAGru-rQ-00235-00060987-00061160 are kind of political benefits to having 3iYBAGru-rQ-00236-00061161-00061352 multiple clients because it makes it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00237-00061353-00061529 easier to say this is a system that's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00238-00061529-00061792 controlled by the where the sort of the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00239-00061794-00061970 protocol specification is actually 3iYBAGru-rQ-00240-00061971-00062285 defined by a formal specification first 3iYBAGru-rQ-00241-00062286-00062594 and implementation second whereas with a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00242-00062595-00062735 lot of these other crypto protocol as 3iYBAGru-rQ-00243-00062736-00062858 they basically say you know while the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00244-00062859-00063035 implementation is the spec and if the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00245-00063036-00063191 implementation it has a bug in it well 3iYBAGru-rQ-00246-00063191-00063391 that's just that's just a fun little 3iYBAGru-rQ-00247-00063392-00063623 feature that's the those supposed to be 3iYBAGru-rQ-00248-00063624-00064105 there all along so that's basically the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00249-00064107-00064417 I you know by having multiple clients it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00250-00064419-00064583 kind of makes it harder for one of them 3iYBAGru-rQ-00251-00064584-00064787 to start sort of running away from all 3iYBAGru-rQ-00252-00064788-00065012 the others and adding on its own 3iYBAGru-rQ-00253-00065013-00065465 extensions and so forth so that's I mean 3iYBAGru-rQ-00254-00065466-00065606 this whole sort of governance issue is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00255-00065607-00065771 important storage degree because you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00256-00065772-00065984 know we've seen how sort of things are 3iYBAGru-rQ-00257-00065985-00066268 evolving in the Bitcoin ecosystem with 3iYBAGru-rQ-00258-00066269-00066518 Gavin and Micah pushing out Bitcoin XT 3iYBAGru-rQ-00259-00066519-00066785 and so forth so that so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00260-00066786-00067040 this kind of centralization of the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00261-00067041-00067366 ecosystem by means of one client in 3iYBAGru-rQ-00262-00067367-00067606 basically being able to define this back 3iYBAGru-rQ-00263-00067607-00067790 is one of the things that we're trying 3iYBAGru-rQ-00264-00067791-00068113 to avoid another issue is just from from 3iYBAGru-rQ-00265-00068114-00068348 a security perspective is that you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-00266-00068349-00068672 by having all a very very large suite of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00267-00068673-00068956 tests and by by seeing that we have 3iYBAGru-rQ-00268-00068957-00069100 three separate implementations that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00269-00069101-00069290 implement and pass all these tests 3iYBAGru-rQ-00270-00069291-00069538 perfectly that just makes sure that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00271-00069539-00069803 there's a much lower probability that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00272-00069804-00069944 there are going to be any kind of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00273-00069945-00070454 security issues between these clients so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00274-00070455-00070592 you know basically you can think of one 3iYBAGru-rQ-00275-00070593-00070718 of the clients it's being kind of like 3iYBAGru-rQ-00276-00070719-00070943 an automated generator of tests of tests 3iYBAGru-rQ-00277-00070944-00071168 for the other now of course there are 3iYBAGru-rQ-00278-00071169-00071393 costs with a multiple line approach so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00279-00071394-00071636 no one of the cost says that there's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00280-00071637-00071869 just a much larger amount of development 3iYBAGru-rQ-00281-00071870-00072212 effort that's required so I mean 3iYBAGru-rQ-00282-00072213-00072413 opinions inside the team differ to some 3iYBAGru-rQ-00283-00072414-00072676 degree I mean even though I was the one 3iYBAGru-rQ-00284-00072677-00072806 that was pushing this multi-client 3iYBAGru-rQ-00285-00072807-00073063 approach much much harder early on I 3iYBAGru-rQ-00286-00073064-00073259 mean right now I do think that we over 3iYBAGru-rQ-00287-00073260-00073573 invested in that to some degree but it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00288-00073574-00073865 you know there are trade-offs between 3iYBAGru-rQ-00289-00073866-00074150 these things that's definitely still in 3iYBAGru-rQ-00290-00074151-00074330 interesting experiments that I'm sure a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00291-00074331-00074494 lot of future software projects are worn 3iYBAGru-rQ-00292-00074495-00074918 from whom so the launch as far as I know 3iYBAGru-rQ-00293-00074919-00075092 and they ask you think about this 3iYBAGru-rQ-00294-00075093-00075299 yesterday or something or everything 3iYBAGru-rQ-00295-00075300-00075575 went perfectly fine right mmhmm yeah I 3iYBAGru-rQ-00296-00075576-00075854 think so okay that's right and into one 3iYBAGru-rQ-00297-00075855-00076057 thing that's also notable right about it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00298-00076058-00076306 right now and beginning it's not 3iYBAGru-rQ-00299-00076307-00076594 actually possible the to do transactions 3iYBAGru-rQ-00300-00076595-00076943 because can you explain why that's the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00301-00076944-00077257 case yes you know that was a fun wedding 3iYBAGru-rQ-00302-00077258-00077417 I remember after we launched there was 3iYBAGru-rQ-00303-00077418-00077663 this really nice article and on the bud 3iYBAGru-rQ-00304-00077664-00077834 coin reddit if you're a launch is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00305-00077835-00078086 incapable of doing transactions which 3iYBAGru-rQ-00306-00078087-00078325 was just perfect so you know basically 3iYBAGru-rQ-00307-00078326-00078647 what we did was we decided that we were 3iYBAGru-rQ-00308-00078648-00078899 going to set the gas limit in etherium 3iYBAGru-rQ-00309-00078900-00079088 started starting off to five thousand 3iYBAGru-rQ-00310-00079089-00079388 and five thousand is only about a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00311-00079389-00079634 quarter of the 21,000 gas that he needs 3iYBAGru-rQ-00312-00079635-00079916 to actually stand a transaction so you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00313-00079917-00080042 know this would be the equivalent of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00314-00080043-00080156 like Bitcoin having a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00315-00080157-00080750 sighs women of twenty bytes um the idea 3iYBAGru-rQ-00316-00080751-00080981 behind that is to just let the network 3iYBAGru-rQ-00317-00080982-00081164 sort of start off and stabilize first 3iYBAGru-rQ-00318-00081165-00081389 and then only after the network is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00319-00081390-00081545 stable people get sort of start brain 3iYBAGru-rQ-00320-00081546-00081944 setting transactions in so at this point 3iYBAGru-rQ-00321-00081945-00082190 it's looking likely that this sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00322-00082191-00082376 thawing process what is going to happen 3iYBAGru-rQ-00323-00082377-00082619 in the next few days maybe with a Sunday 3iYBAGru-rQ-00324-00082620-00083021 or Monday um so the thawing process 3iYBAGru-rQ-00325-00083022-00083384 basically is that we set we release an 3iYBAGru-rQ-00326-00083385-00083615 update to the clients which basically 3iYBAGru-rQ-00327-00083616-00083900 and that update basically tells miners 3iYBAGru-rQ-00328-00083901-00084245 to start voting the gas women upwards so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00329-00084246-00084437 right now the way in the gas limit is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00330-00084438-00084581 set in etherium is it's basically this 3iYBAGru-rQ-00331-00084582-00084779 voting mechanism where each block has 3iYBAGru-rQ-00332-00084780-00085070 the ability to set a gas limit which is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00333-00085071-00085379 within about 0.05 percent of the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00334-00085380-00085631 previous gas limit and so over time you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00335-00085632-00085766 know if you think it's too low you can 3iYBAGru-rQ-00336-00085767-00085913 sort of push it up if you think it's too 3iYBAGru-rQ-00337-00085914-00086096 high you can push it down so it's a sort 3iYBAGru-rQ-00338-00086097-00086252 of voting mechanism that should argue 3iYBAGru-rQ-00339-00086253-00086408 roughly the median of what the vote of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00340-00086409-00086561 what all the miners wants in the long 3iYBAGru-rQ-00341-00086562-00086906 term so within that sort of protocol 3iYBAGru-rQ-00342-00086907-00087035 rule there are of course different 3iYBAGru-rQ-00343-00087036-00087236 strategies for how to vote so the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00344-00087237-00087437 current strategy is that sorta just the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00345-00087438-00087626 five thousand limit the strategy will 3iYBAGru-rQ-00346-00087627-00087893 update to is targeting a limit of three 3iYBAGru-rQ-00347-00087894-00088055 one four one five nine two which is the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00348-00088056-00088463 same as we had on Olympic then after 3iYBAGru-rQ-00349-00088464-00088631 that there are other strategies that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00350-00088632-00088802 we're thinking of so one strategy that I 3iYBAGru-rQ-00351-00088803-00089015 came up with is targeting a particular 3iYBAGru-rQ-00352-00089016-00089345 uncle rate so uncle's for those who are 3iYBAGru-rQ-00353-00089346-00089567 into where is the suspect idn athyrium 3iYBAGru-rQ-00354-00089568-00089789 that if you mine a block and the block 3iYBAGru-rQ-00355-00089790-00089948 doesn't make it into the main chain you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00356-00089949-00090140 can still get included after the fact 3iYBAGru-rQ-00357-00090141-00090406 and still receive most of your reward so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00358-00090407-00090671 the original idea behind this uncle 3iYBAGru-rQ-00359-00090672-00091181 mechanism was that if basic way to avoid 3iYBAGru-rQ-00360-00091182-00091379 penalizing miners that are too badly 3iYBAGru-rQ-00361-00091380-00091646 connected because you know with athyrium 3iYBAGru-rQ-00362-00091647-00091913 is having a 15 second block time if you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00363-00091914-00092090 are badly connected that is a serious 3iYBAGru-rQ-00364-00092091-00092384 penalty and you know there might be sort 3iYBAGru-rQ-00365-00092385-00092546 of centralization issues with one 3iYBAGru-rQ-00366-00092547-00092813 particular cluster ending up having all 3iYBAGru-rQ-00367-00092814-00093065 the power and so forth so that's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00368-00093066-00093182 something that we wanted to kind of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00369-00093183-00093452 mitigate but the other nice benefit that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00370-00093453-00093550 this uncle Reed mech 3iYBAGru-rQ-00371-00093551-00093727 ends up giving us as it gets up giving 3iYBAGru-rQ-00372-00093728-00094116 us a kind of in chain reading of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00373-00094117-00094396 basically how all the networks doing so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00374-00094397-00094612 if the Elco rate is 0.1 that means that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00375-00094613-00094732 you know ninety-one percent in the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00376-00094733-00094876 blocks are making it into the main chain 3iYBAGru-rQ-00377-00094877-00095083 and nine percent aren't if the uncle 3iYBAGru-rQ-00378-00095084-00095377 rate is 0.4 then that means that 71 3iYBAGru-rQ-00379-00095378-00095524 percent of the blocks are making it into 3iYBAGru-rQ-00380-00095525-00095644 the main chain but twenty eight percent 3iYBAGru-rQ-00381-00095645-00096013 aren't and no based off of that we have 3iYBAGru-rQ-00382-00096014-00096139 an idea of kind of how healthy the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00383-00096140-00096325 network is and the theory is we may be 3iYBAGru-rQ-00384-00096326-00096568 able to basically use that in order to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00385-00096569-00096733 sort of target the gas limit so we could 3iYBAGru-rQ-00386-00096734-00097033 say we want a uncle rate that's not 3iYBAGru-rQ-00387-00097034-00097351 higher than 0.4 if it's higher than 0.4 3iYBAGru-rQ-00388-00097352-00097486 then start adjusting a little bit the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00389-00097487-00097753 gas limit down if it's all over than 0.4 3iYBAGru-rQ-00390-00097754-00098011 and it looks like transactions are 3iYBAGru-rQ-00391-00098012-00098239 starting to fill up then push the gas 3iYBAGru-rQ-00392-00098240-00098671 web it upward so so let me on this 3iYBAGru-rQ-00393-00098672-00098956 scientist properly is the reason that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00394-00098957-00099301 the gas limit is related to this uncle 3iYBAGru-rQ-00395-00099302-00099616 weight because the smaller box propagate 3iYBAGru-rQ-00396-00099617-00099886 faster yes exactly okay so then 3iYBAGru-rQ-00397-00099887-00100138 basically if you notice though blocks 3iYBAGru-rQ-00398-00100139-00100348 are propagating to slowly there's a high 3iYBAGru-rQ-00399-00100349-00100561 on Kuwait lots of orphans are happening 3iYBAGru-rQ-00400-00100562-00100972 you need to decrease the block size okay 3iYBAGru-rQ-00401-00100973-00101212 no no that that's it i decimated 3iYBAGru-rQ-00402-00101213-00101386 interesting mechanism i think also 3iYBAGru-rQ-00403-00101387-00101542 interesting know if you think sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00404-00101543-00101731 big corn red because a similar 3iYBAGru-rQ-00405-00101732-00101947 discussions happen there and it sounds 3iYBAGru-rQ-00406-00101948-00102223 like you guys yeah i think a lot of the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00407-00102224-00102510 sort of regis theoretical research we 3iYBAGru-rQ-00408-00102511-00102744 ended up doing on olympic has has 3iYBAGru-rQ-00409-00102745-00102928 similar ability to the big wind block 3iYBAGru-rQ-00410-00102929-00103342 sighs debate because what's happened 3iYBAGru-rQ-00411-00103343-00103618 with bitcoin it's having a lot of the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00412-00103619-00103836 same concerns you know if the block size 3iYBAGru-rQ-00413-00103838-00104104 gets pushed upward then propagation time 3iYBAGru-rQ-00414-00104105-00104278 is going to increase and there are the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00415-00104279-00104718 centralization risks and so forth so you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00416-00104719-00104917 know in bitcoins case i think currently 3iYBAGru-rQ-00417-00104918-00105091 the blog propagation time is somewhere 3iYBAGru-rQ-00418-00105092-00105328 from from around by 20 seconds or so to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00419-00105329-00105466 get to the eggs or the great 3iYBAGru-rQ-00420-00105467-00105772 majority of the nodes and if it goes up 3iYBAGru-rQ-00421-00105773-00105946 from a megabyte to eight megabytes then 3iYBAGru-rQ-00422-00105947-00106134 they'll go up from that to three minutes 3iYBAGru-rQ-00423-00106135-00106366 and that and you know start seeing large 3iYBAGru-rQ-00424-00106367-00106809 your uncle rates so it's a lot of kind 3iYBAGru-rQ-00425-00106810-00106911 of the same math 3iYBAGru-rQ-00426-00106913-00107194 I mean my intuition is that with the way 3iYBAGru-rQ-00427-00107195-00107374 they can currently is now something on 3iYBAGru-rQ-00428-00107375-00107784 the order of each 12 megabytes is going 3iYBAGru-rQ-00429-00107785-00108073 to be safe anything higher I mean you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00430-00108074-00108349 know if we figure out how to make 3iYBAGru-rQ-00431-00108350-00108534 invertible blue woke up tables work well 3iYBAGru-rQ-00432-00108535-00108684 then that might be a way forward but 3iYBAGru-rQ-00433-00108685-00108949 we'll see you well let's come back to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00434-00108950-00109138 this later we actually wanted to ask you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00435-00109139-00109480 about that but the the one thing we 3iYBAGru-rQ-00436-00109481-00109683 didn't get to talk so much about the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00437-00109684-00109825 last time you had your own and it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00438-00109826-00110008 topic we wanted to talk about is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00439-00110008-00110323 scalability because you having this the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00440-00110324-00110518 one topic that you've been most 3iYBAGru-rQ-00441-00110519-00110713 interested in and I guess it's a top 3iYBAGru-rQ-00442-00110714-00110883 again become people are interested in as 3iYBAGru-rQ-00443-00110884-00111067 well and then of course you guys have 3iYBAGru-rQ-00444-00111068-00111199 the advantage that you're sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00445-00111200-00111544 convert from scratch really finger what 3iYBAGru-rQ-00446-00111545-00111805 way to go about it it's a cop it is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00447-00111806-00112027 quite frankly I think a complicated 3iYBAGru-rQ-00448-00112028-00112536 topic for us who don't spend that much 3iYBAGru-rQ-00449-00112538-00112897 time thinking about the technical 3iYBAGru-rQ-00450-00112898-00113128 aspects of it but you've been a really 3iYBAGru-rQ-00451-00113129-00113581 nice a white paper which is a 50-page 3iYBAGru-rQ-00452-00113582-00114036 very comprehensive white paper so I just 3iYBAGru-rQ-00453-00114038-00114340 want to briefly sort of read out a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00454-00114341-00114556 problem which I think will make sense to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00455-00114557-00114991 anybody so in the in the pretty call it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00456-00114992-00115348 the sort of int abstract you're right as 3iYBAGru-rQ-00457-00115349-00115615 all blockchain consensus protocols have 3iYBAGru-rQ-00458-00115616-00115849 an important limitation and that's that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00459-00115850-00116041 every full participating node in an 3iYBAGru-rQ-00460-00116042-00116257 overcast process every transaction right 3iYBAGru-rQ-00461-00116258-00116614 so it's pretty obvious that if that's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00462-00116615-00116779 the case then well then we're going to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00463-00116780-00116965 have this sort of discussion of Bitcoin 3iYBAGru-rQ-00464-00116966-00117181 now well the only way the scale is to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00465-00117182-00117448 make transactions huge or maybe do some 3iYBAGru-rQ-00466-00117449-00117664 sort of off chain thing yeah make the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00467-00117665-00118249 blocks huge so what is your what's your 3iYBAGru-rQ-00468-00118250-00118489 thinking how should one is an 3iYBAGru-rQ-00469-00118490-00118765 alternative design yeah the scanner I 3iYBAGru-rQ-00470-00118766-00119128 mean to start off there are two easy but 3iYBAGru-rQ-00471-00119129-00119317 bad ways of solving the scalability 3iYBAGru-rQ-00472-00119318-00119725 problem so the first way is to just say 3iYBAGru-rQ-00473-00119726-00119917 okay let's have a thousand watch chains 3iYBAGru-rQ-00474-00119918-00120130 there's two reasons why that's about 3iYBAGru-rQ-00475-00120131-00120307 that's bad one reason 3iYBAGru-rQ-00476-00120308-00120561 is that interoperability is harder and 3iYBAGru-rQ-00477-00120563-00120796 it becomes harder to extend transactions 3iYBAGru-rQ-00478-00120797-00121110 that go have effects between one 3iYBAGru-rQ-00479-00121111-00121341 watching and other watching the other 3iYBAGru-rQ-00480-00121342-00121500 much bigger reason is that each one of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00481-00121501-00121611 these block chains so we're going to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00482-00121613-00121849 have a thousandth of the security the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00483-00121850-00122098 second bad way of fixing scalability is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00484-00122099-00122277 to just say let's have big big big 3iYBAGru-rQ-00485-00122278-00122518 blocks and let's we're relying on all 3iYBAGru-rQ-00486-00122519-00122703 the consensus participants had to having 3iYBAGru-rQ-00487-00122704-00122923 big big big servers and that's the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00488-00122924-00123240 solution so you know the first one 3iYBAGru-rQ-00489-00123241-00123429 compromise security the second one 3iYBAGru-rQ-00490-00123430-00123686 compromises decentralization and 3iYBAGru-rQ-00491-00123688-00123864 particularly I think some of these 3iYBAGru-rQ-00492-00123865-00124008 centralization effects might end up 3iYBAGru-rQ-00493-00124009-00124236 compounding with each other so for 3iYBAGru-rQ-00494-00124238-00124507 example you know with mining if we see 3iYBAGru-rQ-00495-00124508-00124723 the block size is increased by factor of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00496-00124724-00124921 a thousands then we could easily see 3iYBAGru-rQ-00497-00124922-00125100 just do what everybody use two or three 3iYBAGru-rQ-00498-00125101-00125238 mining pools and then switch to using 3iYBAGru-rQ-00499-00125239-00125637 one mining pool so that's going to be a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00500-00125638-00125934 bit problematic now the approach that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00501-00125935-00126237 I'm outlining in that big long paper is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00502-00126238-00126537 basically that instead of trying to have 3iYBAGru-rQ-00503-00126538-00126804 every node process every transaction you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00504-00126805-00126954 sort of organized transactions into 3iYBAGru-rQ-00505-00126955-00127270 groups that have effects on sim on sort 3iYBAGru-rQ-00506-00127271-00127474 of the same part of the state and then 3iYBAGru-rQ-00507-00127475-00127633 you take these big collections of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00508-00127633-00127819 transactions and you send them off to a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00509-00127820-00128119 random sample of validators to verify so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00510-00128120-00128368 let's say have ten thousand transactions 3iYBAGru-rQ-00511-00128369-00128541 that affect like this sort of one corner 3iYBAGru-rQ-00512-00128542-00128859 of the map and you might think of that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00513-00128860-00129015 corner of the map essaye being all 3iYBAGru-rQ-00514-00129016-00129532 addresses that begin with 35 and so one 3iYBAGru-rQ-00515-00129533-00129670 of the important properties of this kind 3iYBAGru-rQ-00516-00129671-00129868 of design is that you actually have to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00517-00129869-00130065 sort of think a bit about positioning 3iYBAGru-rQ-00518-00130066-00130200 and you have to kind of think about well 3iYBAGru-rQ-00519-00130201-00130408 okay I have a contract and I want to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00520-00130408-00130597 position this contract sort of close to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00521-00130598-00130788 other contracts that are going to be 3iYBAGru-rQ-00522-00130789-00131040 interacting with that a lot so you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-00523-00131041-00131200 this is sort of general theorem that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00524-00131201-00131403 it's impossible to parallelize arbitrary 3iYBAGru-rQ-00525-00131404-00131695 computation is therefore you know that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00526-00131696-00131911 means that if we want scalability the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00527-00131912-00132058 abstraction is just going to have to be 3iYBAGru-rQ-00528-00132059-00132339 weekly to some degree so you know the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00529-00132340-00132588 idea is anyways that you have this big 3iYBAGru-rQ-00530-00132589-00132787 long set a chance of maybe one thousand 3iYBAGru-rQ-00531-00132788-00132973 ten thousand transactions with addresses 3iYBAGru-rQ-00532-00132974-00133243 beginning with 35 and this trend this 3iYBAGru-rQ-00533-00133244-00133645 collection gets sent off to this random 3iYBAGru-rQ-00534-00133646-00134140 of 135 alligators then that collection 3iYBAGru-rQ-00535-00134141-00134407 has a what we call collection header 3iYBAGru-rQ-00536-00134408-00134596 into the collection header base we know 3iYBAGru-rQ-00537-00134597-00134755 contains a hash of the collection it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00538-00134756-00135141 also contains the state route before 3iYBAGru-rQ-00539-00135142-00135382 applying the transactions and the state 3iYBAGru-rQ-00540-00135383-00135598 route applying athlete transactions so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00541-00135599-00135748 the person who creates the collection 3iYBAGru-rQ-00542-00135749-00136021 has to spazz to figure out what the if 3iYBAGru-rQ-00543-00136022-00136207 was a sort of very fine grained effect 3iYBAGru-rQ-00544-00136208-00136405 of all those transactions is and just 3iYBAGru-rQ-00545-00136406-00136621 summarize it with a Morgul route then 3iYBAGru-rQ-00546-00136622-00136939 once that once that's created the person 3iYBAGru-rQ-00547-00136940-00137122 who creates the collection sends that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00548-00137123-00137305 collection with a bunch of merkel proofs 3iYBAGru-rQ-00549-00137306-00137434 with the Merkel routes with the header 3iYBAGru-rQ-00550-00137435-00137698 along to these validators the validators 3iYBAGru-rQ-00551-00137699-00137908 all check that it's valid and they all 3iYBAGru-rQ-00552-00137909-00138241 sign it then when you have signatures 3iYBAGru-rQ-00553-00138242-00138493 you take the the collection header and 3iYBAGru-rQ-00554-00138494-00138832 then you add 135 signatures to the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00555-00138833-00139021 collection header and then you put that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00556-00139022-00139288 into the main chain ends the main chain 3iYBAGru-rQ-00557-00139289-00139540 basically follows a principle of well if 3iYBAGru-rQ-00558-00139541-00139807 if two-thirds of 135 or anyway so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00559-00139808-00139936 actually value either say it's correct 3iYBAGru-rQ-00560-00139937-00140209 them it's correct so the header chain 3iYBAGru-rQ-00561-00140210-00140344 almost doesn't even know what's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00562-00140345-00140758 happening at the bottom level and so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00563-00140759-00141021 this is the kind of principle that it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00564-00141022-00141232 that it's working on you know that you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00565-00141233-00141430 have all of these different groups that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00566-00141431-00141583 are creating these collections all you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00567-00141584-00141736 know hundreds collections in parallel 3iYBAGru-rQ-00568-00141737-00141895 the collections all get something two 3iYBAGru-rQ-00569-00141896-00142060 parallel then finally the signatures 3iYBAGru-rQ-00570-00142061-00142324 make the wrapper to the top chain in the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00571-00142325-00142516 top chain kind of keeps track of the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00572-00142517-00142708 status of these Merkel routes which are 3iYBAGru-rQ-00573-00142709-00142870 basically summaries of what goes on at 3iYBAGru-rQ-00574-00142871-00143068 the bottom is that I mean that's of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00575-00143069-00143383 course ave design that seems to make 3iYBAGru-rQ-00576-00143384-00143587 intuitive sense right so you have all 3iYBAGru-rQ-00577-00143588-00143809 this stuff you try to debug it up give 3iYBAGru-rQ-00578-00143810-00144058 it to some subset you know they process 3iYBAGru-rQ-00579-00144059-00144214 that and then somehow you integrate it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00580-00144215-00144517 back together but the obvious thing that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00581-00144518-00144799 jumps out here you mentioned contracts 3iYBAGru-rQ-00582-00144800-00144979 have to be close to each other I mean 3iYBAGru-rQ-00583-00144980-00145234 what are the implications of that so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00584-00145235-00145723 like I with my random wallets yeah so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00585-00145724-00145975 listen in to some degree this depends on 3iYBAGru-rQ-00586-00145976-00146278 what application you're using so I think 3iYBAGru-rQ-00587-00146279-00146464 with if there is a theory i'm 3iYBAGru-rQ-00588-00146465-00146719 particularly so in some cases it's not 3iYBAGru-rQ-00589-00146720-00146881 going to matter so for example you could 3iYBAGru-rQ-00590-00146882-00146914 have met 3iYBAGru-rQ-00591-00146915-00147131 our existing in sort of one of these 3iYBAGru-rQ-00592-00147132-00147409 subspaces then you know Lazoo is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00593-00147410-00147596 existing in some other subspace than 3iYBAGru-rQ-00594-00147597-00147814 some stable coin existing in some third 3iYBAGru-rQ-00595-00147815-00148126 subspace and so forth and if people that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00596-00148127-00148363 use one application tends to just use 3iYBAGru-rQ-00597-00148364-00148546 one application then it's going to work 3iYBAGru-rQ-00598-00148547-00148864 mostly fine the problem comes from well 3iYBAGru-rQ-00599-00148865-00149133 what if I have some money in or some 3iYBAGru-rQ-00600-00149134-00149401 more general even what if there's some 3iYBAGru-rQ-00601-00149402-00149746 contract in say subspace 35 and it wants 3iYBAGru-rQ-00602-00149747-00149899 to send off a message to something 3iYBAGru-rQ-00603-00149900-00150238 that's in subspace 68 then basically 3iYBAGru-rQ-00604-00150239-00150514 what's going to happen is that well what 3iYBAGru-rQ-00605-00150515-00150632 if two things might happen there's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00606-00150633-00150772 actually sort of two strategies for 3iYBAGru-rQ-00607-00150773-00150908 handling this there is a synchronous 3iYBAGru-rQ-00608-00150909-00151153 strategy and the asynchronous strategy 3iYBAGru-rQ-00609-00151154-00151406 so the synchronous strategy basically 3iYBAGru-rQ-00610-00151407-00151603 says that okay what we're going to do is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00611-00151604-00151885 we're going to wait until there is some 3iYBAGru-rQ-00612-00151886-00152158 collection of transactions in that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00613-00152159-00152466 collect that processes simultaneously 3iYBAGru-rQ-00614-00152467-00152764 subspaces three five and six eight then 3iYBAGru-rQ-00615-00152765-00152993 once that collection happens in that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00616-00152994-00153103 collection everything can happen 3iYBAGru-rQ-00617-00153104-00153589 synchronous way now oh and you know new 3iYBAGru-rQ-00618-00153590-00153719 theory is eventually that go actually 3iYBAGru-rQ-00619-00153720-00153850 going to happen the transactions going 3iYBAGru-rQ-00620-00153851-00154015 to get in and it's going to have exactly 3iYBAGru-rQ-00621-00154016-00154138 the fact that it's all going to work 3iYBAGru-rQ-00622-00154139-00154402 basically the way it works now the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00623-00154403-00154579 problem with the synchronous model is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00624-00154580-00154753 that it's going to take a very very long 3iYBAGru-rQ-00625-00154754-00155008 time until all of these sort of possible 3iYBAGru-rQ-00626-00155009-00155248 pairs of subspaces end up sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00627-00155249-00155408 appearing in a collection at the same 3iYBAGru-rQ-00628-00155409-00155693 time and if you imagine a big one chain 3iYBAGru-rQ-00629-00155694-00155908 of events that triggered by a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00630-00155909-00156073 transaction that might affect say five 3iYBAGru-rQ-00631-00156074-00156301 or ten random different subspaces then 3iYBAGru-rQ-00632-00156302-00156431 it's going to take a billion years for 3iYBAGru-rQ-00633-00156432-00156928 it to get in so the asynchronous 3iYBAGru-rQ-00634-00156929-00157314 approach this is the approach that I 3iYBAGru-rQ-00635-00157315-00157595 mean it works equally well it works 3iYBAGru-rQ-00636-00157596-00157786 pretty well under a kind of slightly 3iYBAGru-rQ-00637-00157787-00157987 modified synchronous model it's also one 3iYBAGru-rQ-00638-00157988-00158093 of the approaches that dominique 3iYBAGru-rQ-00639-00158094-00158362 williams has been working on is that it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00640-00158363-00158626 basically you say that if a transaction 3iYBAGru-rQ-00641-00158627-00158768 has an effects that goes into a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00642-00158769-00159100 different subspace then basically it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00643-00159101-00159298 doesn't have the effect immediately the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00644-00159299-00159482 transaction just kind of creates a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00645-00159483-00159721 receipt and a receive you can think of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00646-00159722-00159845 as being something that just sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00647-00159846-00160024 gets Morgul hashed in and it's kind of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00648-00160025-00160333 registered as saying subspace 35 created 3iYBAGru-rQ-00649-00160334-00160750 this receipt then half an hour later the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00650-00160751-00161032 on subspace 68 you would say you create 3iYBAGru-rQ-00651-00161033-00161200 a transaction that kind of pings the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00652-00161201-00161425 contract on the other end and then what 3iYBAGru-rQ-00653-00161426-00161668 that contract does is it checks okay are 3iYBAGru-rQ-00654-00161669-00161854 there any new risk are there any 3iYBAGru-rQ-00655-00161855-00162175 receipts in subspace 35 that are not yet 3iYBAGru-rQ-00656-00162176-00162376 registered as having been sort of used 3iYBAGru-rQ-00657-00162377-00162733 up by subspace 68 if if there are then 3iYBAGru-rQ-00658-00162734-00162883 it means that there are new receipts and 3iYBAGru-rQ-00659-00162884-00163174 all of these new receipts or start start 3iYBAGru-rQ-00660-00163175-00163630 making a computation so the idea is that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00661-00163631-00163807 you know sort of every tin then when you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00662-00163808-00163969 do make a computation of the array of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00663-00163970-00164263 these receipts then the receipts end up 3iYBAGru-rQ-00664-00164264-00164611 sort of in subspace 68 the r is there 3iYBAGru-rQ-00665-00164612-00164764 are the risk it ends up being marked as 3iYBAGru-rQ-00666-00164765-00165004 use that i can't be used anymore so the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00667-00165005-00165193 idea is a sort of asynchronous two-step 3iYBAGru-rQ-00668-00165194-00165490 process it's a vaguely similar to peter 3iYBAGru-rQ-00669-00165491-00165652 taught street chains in some sense as 3iYBAGru-rQ-00670-00165653-00165946 well so you know you basically you have 3iYBAGru-rQ-00671-00165947-00166108 a kind of it's sort of debit credit 3iYBAGru-rQ-00672-00166109-00166378 system you have you know the contract in 3iYBAGru-rQ-00673-00166379-00166534 subspace to be five creating an effect 3iYBAGru-rQ-00674-00166535-00166777 and then later on the contract in 3iYBAGru-rQ-00675-00166778-00166933 subspace like say it takes advantage of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00676-00166934-00167230 that effect let's take a short break so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00677-00167231-00167419 i can take you to Paris I dropped into 3iYBAGru-rQ-00678-00167420-00167614 lab meson g bitcoin the house of bitcoin 3iYBAGru-rQ-00679-00167615-00167812 in the heart of silicon sanjay home to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00680-00167813-00168019 many startups including ledger and I 3iYBAGru-rQ-00681-00168020-00168226 spoke with Nicola Becca Ledger's CTO 3iYBAGru-rQ-00682-00168227-00168442 about the level of security in their 3iYBAGru-rQ-00683-00168443-00168751 devices or electra is based on a smart 3iYBAGru-rQ-00684-00168752-00168910 card sheet that is exactly the same 3iYBAGru-rQ-00685-00168911-00169072 snack achieve that you have been bumping 3iYBAGru-rQ-00686-00169073-00169273 chips and in passwords in passports 3iYBAGru-rQ-00687-00169274-00169429 today so but something that has been 3iYBAGru-rQ-00688-00169430-00169603 very dated for the industry for more 3iYBAGru-rQ-00689-00169604-00169882 than 20 years today's a favorite second 3iYBAGru-rQ-00690-00169883-00170146 factor is the phone on when using a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00691-00170147-00170311 phone you are transmitting an encrypted 3iYBAGru-rQ-00692-00170312-00170509 version of your collection to the phone 3iYBAGru-rQ-00693-00170510-00170698 to the screen that can be displayed to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00694-00170699-00170893 you and validated to you so we 3iYBAGru-rQ-00695-00170894-00171115 leveraging to in sexual devices your 3iYBAGru-rQ-00696-00171116-00171274 desktop and your phone to create a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00697-00171275-00171544 secure validation with ledger we believe 3iYBAGru-rQ-00698-00171545-00171703 that hardware wallet are very primitive 3iYBAGru-rQ-00699-00171704-00171934 today they are just use to confirm 3iYBAGru-rQ-00700-00171935-00172096 transactions and to display some 3iYBAGru-rQ-00701-00172097-00172408 validation and that's it in the future 3iYBAGru-rQ-00702-00172409-00172639 as Bitcoin protocol move toward smart 3iYBAGru-rQ-00703-00172640-00172897 contracts to add a lot more use cases we 3iYBAGru-rQ-00704-00172898-00173065 believe that those devices will evolve 3iYBAGru-rQ-00705-00173066-00173218 into something that i would call 3iYBAGru-rQ-00706-00173219-00173350 consensus devices 3iYBAGru-rQ-00707-00173351-00173665 which basically will be able to confirm 3iYBAGru-rQ-00708-00173666-00173926 for specific services specific routes 3iYBAGru-rQ-00709-00173927-00174247 how is even a bit a hack a ledger it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00710-00174248-00174454 wouldn't be very easy to be honest I 3iYBAGru-rQ-00711-00174455-00174649 think this would be for you to try 3iYBAGru-rQ-00712-00174650-00174913 physical attacks first like glitching I 3iYBAGru-rQ-00713-00174914-00175081 side-channel attacks if you want to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00714-00175082-00175258 really attack it are you will need to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00715-00175259-00175435 get a bit more equipped with like a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00716-00175436-00175690 focus on beam one situation or scanning 3iYBAGru-rQ-00717-00175691-00175957 electron scanning electron microscope so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00718-00175958-00176134 that's going to cost you probably a few 3iYBAGru-rQ-00719-00176135-00176482 millions and as well you are going to be 3iYBAGru-rQ-00720-00176483-00176695 able to dig up the chip so that's going 3iYBAGru-rQ-00721-00176696-00176995 to be a bit risky for you as well but 3iYBAGru-rQ-00722-00176996-00177235 you are free to try of course and let us 3iYBAGru-rQ-00723-00177236-00177532 know if you manage to do anything ledger 3iYBAGru-rQ-00724-00177533-00177691 is building the infrastructure which 3iYBAGru-rQ-00725-00177692-00177859 will provide the best level of security 3iYBAGru-rQ-00726-00177860-00178075 for the Bitcoin industry you too can 3iYBAGru-rQ-00727-00178076-00178264 benefit from this technology and get an 3iYBAGru-rQ-00728-00178265-00178453 affordable secure setup for storing your 3iYBAGru-rQ-00729-00178454-00178681 bitcoins with the ledger nano so go to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00730-00178682-00178897 ledger wallet calm and use the Africa EB 3iYBAGru-rQ-00731-00178898-00179098 09 to get ten percent off your first 3iYBAGru-rQ-00732-00179099-00179254 order that offer code is valid until 3iYBAGru-rQ-00733-00179255-00179500 September 30th of 2015 we'd like to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00734-00179501-00179650 thank ledger for the continued support 3iYBAGru-rQ-00735-00179651-00179893 of a percent of a point are there is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00736-00179894-00180454 some security implications because is if 3iYBAGru-rQ-00737-00180455-00180796 we see as trustworthy as receiving a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00738-00180797-00181120 transaction so the idea here so the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00739-00181121-00181492 implications are so the thing that you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00740-00181493-00181744 wants to avoid is he wants to avoid a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00741-00181745-00182095 situation where let's say subspace 35 3iYBAGru-rQ-00742-00182096-00182317 cents something sends a transaction the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00743-00182318-00182536 transaction then that ends up having an 3iYBAGru-rQ-00744-00182537-00182788 effect on subspace ex-aide but then as 3iYBAGru-rQ-00745-00182789-00183040 it turns out subspace three that that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00746-00183041-00183220 particular block itself is 35 mins up 3iYBAGru-rQ-00747-00183221-00183373 getting reverted for some reason either 3iYBAGru-rQ-00748-00183374-00183678 you have an effect without a cause so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00749-00183679-00183922 there are two ways of avoiding that one 3iYBAGru-rQ-00750-00183923-00184132 way is this synchronicity approach where 3iYBAGru-rQ-00751-00184133-00184396 you basically end up saying that if 3iYBAGru-rQ-00752-00184397-00184678 subspace 35 ends up getting deleted then 3iYBAGru-rQ-00753-00184679-00184891 pretty much or reverted then all of it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00754-00184892-00185068 all the sort of children in what I call 3iYBAGru-rQ-00755-00185069-00185320 the dependency code also get reverted so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00756-00185321-00185544 the dependency code is this idea that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00757-00185545-00186043 you know you have Asia basically the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00758-00186044-00186184 block and then every blog that's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00759-00186185-00186328 dependent on the block every market 3iYBAGru-rQ-00760-00186329-00186475 depends on the walk that spends on that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00761-00186476-00186685 block and so forth and so you can think 3iYBAGru-rQ-00762-00186686-00186742 of you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-00763-00186743-00186931 a change in one subspace has sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00764-00186932-00187072 eventually propagating to every other 3iYBAGru-rQ-00765-00187073-00187201 cells based on a kind of butterfly 3iYBAGru-rQ-00766-00187202-00187483 effect so theoretically you can 3iYBAGru-rQ-00767-00187484-00187636 calculate the dependency cone you can 3iYBAGru-rQ-00768-00187637-00187885 sort of revert the entire code the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00769-00187886-00188227 second effects or the second idea is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00770-00188228-00188500 that you basically say that in order for 3iYBAGru-rQ-00771-00188501-00188746 this receipt to be claimed you have to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00772-00188747-00188989 wait until it gets finalized so there's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00773-00188990-00189133 some point at which you have this 3iYBAGru-rQ-00774-00189134-00189382 concept of finality where you know in 3iYBAGru-rQ-00775-00189383-00189595 subspace 35 at some points you agree 3iYBAGru-rQ-00776-00189596-00189709 that the Spock is never going to get 3iYBAGru-rQ-00777-00189710-00190066 reverted and at that point only after 3iYBAGru-rQ-00778-00190067-00190297 that point will you be able to claim 3iYBAGru-rQ-00779-00190298-00190678 this receipt in another subspace so look 3iYBAGru-rQ-00780-00190679-00190822 these receipts what they basically are 3iYBAGru-rQ-00781-00190823-00190960 is they're kind of sort of cryptographic 3iYBAGru-rQ-00782-00190961-00191269 documents basically saying here is an 3iYBAGru-rQ-00783-00191270-00191503 event that happens in this one subspace 3iYBAGru-rQ-00784-00191504-00191752 and then that event might be something 3iYBAGru-rQ-00785-00191753-00192139 like contract 35 some contracts agreed 3iYBAGru-rQ-00786-00192140-00192706 to send 10,000 units of oh no II dollar 3iYBAGru-rQ-00787-00192707-00193264 268 154 then you know later on if would 3iYBAGru-rQ-00788-00193265-00193624 say you are user 68 154 then what you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00789-00193625-00193768 can do is you can create a transaction 3iYBAGru-rQ-00790-00193769-00193972 that basically state pointing hey guys 3iYBAGru-rQ-00791-00193973-00194158 over here in subspace 35 I have a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00792-00194159-00194416 receive address to me so it's a sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00793-00194417-00194569 internal protocol mechanism for like 3iYBAGru-rQ-00794-00194570-00194698 keeping track and we sort of cross 3iYBAGru-rQ-00795-00194699-00194917 substrate events that get created I mean 3iYBAGru-rQ-00796-00194918-00195217 it almost reminds a bit as well of the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00797-00195218-00195451 side chain said you know of having these 3iYBAGru-rQ-00798-00195452-00195706 ideas in one chain and then using that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00799-00195707-00195892 and the other chain yeah you mean you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00800-00195893-00196027 definitely think of it as being us are 3iYBAGru-rQ-00801-00196028-00196374 you being a side chain type protocol 3iYBAGru-rQ-00802-00196375-00196818 today's magic word is frontier f ro n TI 3iYBAGru-rQ-00803-00196819-00197142 ER head over to let's talk bitcoin calm 3iYBAGru-rQ-00804-00197143-00197352 to sign in enter the magic word and 3iYBAGru-rQ-00805-00197353-00198171 claim your part of a listener reward so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00806-00198172-00198576 where are some of the other ways to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00807-00198577-00198756 solve scalability so that you wrote a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00808-00198757-00198996 blog post recently about state tree 3iYBAGru-rQ-00809-00198997-00199218 pruning can you explain yes so state 3iYBAGru-rQ-00810-00199219-00199389 tree pruning is I mean it's not the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00811-00199390-00199569 ultimate solution because you know every 3iYBAGru-rQ-00812-00199570-00199749 note still process every transaction and 3iYBAGru-rQ-00813-00199750-00200130 say tree pruning but the idea is that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00814-00200131-00200418 you know right now one of the problems 3iYBAGru-rQ-00815-00200419-00200709 with with the sort of myrtle tree 3iYBAGru-rQ-00816-00200710-00200949 approach that we took is that you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-00817-00200950-00201339 basically etherium clients store the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00818-00201340-00201636 stage a full copy of the state after 3iYBAGru-rQ-00819-00201637-00201912 every block at any point in history so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00820-00201913-00202098 you know they store the integrity store 3iYBAGru-rQ-00821-00202099-00202353 this you know the balance of every 3iYBAGru-rQ-00822-00202354-00202539 accounts every storage item of every 3iYBAGru-rQ-00823-00202540-00202950 account at every point ever so this is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00824-00202951-00203151 something also sorry to cut you up but 3iYBAGru-rQ-00825-00203152-00203403 that also means like the code of every 3iYBAGru-rQ-00826-00203404-00204003 contract yes ok so that's um I mean it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00827-00204004-00204228 not as bad as it seems because you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-00828-00204229-00204384 most of the time from one block to the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00829-00204385-00204588 next block the state is almost the same 3iYBAGru-rQ-00830-00204589-00204735 and there's not much extra information 3iYBAGru-rQ-00831-00204736-00204933 that has to be stored but even still 3iYBAGru-rQ-00832-00204934-00205152 it's any fish it's because what it means 3iYBAGru-rQ-00833-00205153-00205302 is that because of the way that the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00834-00205303-00205602 myrtle trees are constructed every time 3iYBAGru-rQ-00835-00205603-00205862 even one storage key is updated that's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00836-00205863-00206046 another maybe thousand bytes worth a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00837-00206046-00206181 worth of tree nodes that has to be 3iYBAGru-rQ-00838-00206182-00206526 stored in the hard drive so the idea was 3iYBAGru-rQ-00839-00206527-00206796 the tree pruning is that well if let's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00840-00206796-00207054 say at some point there there are some 3iYBAGru-rQ-00841-00207055-00207236 nodes that were part of the Merkel tree 3iYBAGru-rQ-00842-00207237-00207546 and then the blog a new blog happens and 3iYBAGru-rQ-00843-00207546-00207660 those notes aren't part of the more 3iYBAGru-rQ-00844-00207661-00207819 coach me anymore then at some point 3iYBAGru-rQ-00845-00207819-00208002 after let's say five thousand blocks 3iYBAGru-rQ-00846-00208003-00208227 there was a eknoor sold mortgage we know 3iYBAGru-rQ-00847-00208228-00208373 it just gets deleted so they're not 3iYBAGru-rQ-00848-00208375-00208844 stored anymore so the IED is that you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00849-00208846-00209079 know yes will be storing the current 3iYBAGru-rQ-00850-00209080-00209294 state and will be storing 5,000 blocks 3iYBAGru-rQ-00851-00209296-00209433 of historical state but we're not going 3iYBAGru-rQ-00852-00209434-00209687 to be going beyond that so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00853-00209688-00210048 that has the benefit that you know it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00854-00210048-00210227 going to be much more efficient in terms 3iYBAGru-rQ-00855-00210228-00210492 of state size so it should be able to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00856-00210492-00210929 reduce the state by quite a lot but on 3iYBAGru-rQ-00857-00210930-00211385 the other hand it's also a bit it does 3iYBAGru-rQ-00858-00211386-00211619 well the one issue that introduces is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00859-00211621-00211791 that clients are not going to be able to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00860-00211792-00212064 revert more than 5,000 bucks so if you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00861-00212065-00212225 revert more than 5,000 blocks and 3iYBAGru-rQ-00862-00212226-00212348 basically you're screwing you have to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00863-00212350-00212600 redownload the whole chain so this is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00864-00212601-00212742 the sort of one vulnerability that you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00865-00212742-00212882 get as a trade-off but you know I think 3iYBAGru-rQ-00866-00212883-00213042 it's an acceptable trade-off in exchange 3iYBAGru-rQ-00867-00213042-00213192 for cutting the out and storage costs by 3iYBAGru-rQ-00868-00213192-00213578 factor of 10 to 100 so you know without 3iYBAGru-rQ-00869-00213579-00213864 this on the Olympic test net we got up 3iYBAGru-rQ-00870-00213865-00214065 to a bit somewhere between 10 to 40 3iYBAGru-rQ-00871-00214066-00214296 gigabytes of sort of total storage stay 3iYBAGru-rQ-00872-00214296-00214442 tuned pruning should be unlocked by down 3iYBAGru-rQ-00873-00214444-00214650 by a factor of quite a lot you know more 3iYBAGru-rQ-00874-00214651-00215177 than definitely more than 10 um the one 3iYBAGru-rQ-00875-00215178-00215321 thing about Olympic though is that there 3iYBAGru-rQ-00876-00215323-00215439 are a lot of people that were kind of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00877-00215440-00215627 deliberately spamming the network with 3iYBAGru-rQ-00878-00215628-00215810 transactions I try to sort of take up as 3iYBAGru-rQ-00879-00215811-00216098 much storage as possible but that's 3iYBAGru-rQ-00880-00216100-00216342 something that is you know it's not 3iYBAGru-rQ-00881-00216342-00216523 going to happen on frontier because 3iYBAGru-rQ-00882-00216525-00216714 inference here you know we specifically 3iYBAGru-rQ-00883-00216715-00216956 economically incentivize being sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00884-00216957-00217113 economical with your storage and even 3iYBAGru-rQ-00885-00217114-00217341 clearing storage as much as you can so 3iYBAGru-rQ-00886-00217342-00217535 you know with frontier there should be 3iYBAGru-rQ-00887-00217536-00217692 almost as much clearing s there is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00888-00217692-00218265 adding and so I mean so in general state 3iYBAGru-rQ-00889-00218266-00218448 root pruning is just as optimization to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00890-00218448-00218642 significant to save on the hard drive 3iYBAGru-rQ-00891-00218644-00218927 space so you know instead of storing 100 3iYBAGru-rQ-00892-00218928-00219032 gigabytes here we go to store five 3iYBAGru-rQ-00893-00219033-00219230 gigabytes and that's great the things 3iYBAGru-rQ-00894-00219231-00219419 that it doesn't solve our first of all 3iYBAGru-rQ-00895-00219421-00219612 you know the cost of processing 3iYBAGru-rQ-00896-00219613-00219819 transactions it doesn't solve bandwidth 3iYBAGru-rQ-00897-00219819-00220229 this year's it's in those new things are 3iYBAGru-rQ-00898-00220230-00220358 alternately going to be what defines 3iYBAGru-rQ-00899-00220359-00220574 these web it's of scalability for 3iYBAGru-rQ-00900-00220575-00221037 athyrium okay and I mean it but any you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00901-00221038-00221223 know given the potential that athyrium 3iYBAGru-rQ-00902-00221223-00221627 has and so the long-term you know the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00903-00221628-00221834 long-term outlook of etherium you want 3iYBAGru-rQ-00904-00221835-00222012 to try to keep that down as much as 3iYBAGru-rQ-00905-00222013-00222365 possible and implement every scalability 3iYBAGru-rQ-00906-00222366-00222650 solution possible so that it is scalable 3iYBAGru-rQ-00907-00222651-00222864 over the long term so one of the things 3iYBAGru-rQ-00908-00222865-00223002 that has been talked 3iYBAGru-rQ-00909-00223003-00223248 about in which we can go into and now is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00910-00223248-00223635 in in a subsequent release of etherium 3iYBAGru-rQ-00911-00223636-00223791 will be moving from proof of work to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00912-00223792-00224046 proof of stake so can you talk about 3iYBAGru-rQ-00913-00224046-00224205 that and what is relationship there with 3iYBAGru-rQ-00914-00224206-00224559 scalability I don't think proof of stake 3iYBAGru-rQ-00915-00224560-00224873 is a stability solution I mean it can 3iYBAGru-rQ-00916-00224875-00225036 improve things slightly because it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00917-00225037-00225234 reduces there are ways that you can sort 3iYBAGru-rQ-00918-00225235-00225378 of reduce some of these centralization 3iYBAGru-rQ-00919-00225379-00225609 issues and and say make the system work 3iYBAGru-rQ-00920-00225610-00225888 when say you know every note is humming 3iYBAGru-rQ-00921-00225889-00226062 out a full notice humming along and say 3iYBAGru-rQ-00922-00226063-00226203 fifty or one hundred percent cpu 3iYBAGru-rQ-00923-00226204-00226460 utilization instead of ten percent but 3iYBAGru-rQ-00924-00226461-00226701 it's ultimately not going to solve it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00925-00226702-00226875 the thing that boo boo stick will do is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00926-00226876-00226998 at all hours to provide much more 3iYBAGru-rQ-00927-00226998-00227310 security much more cheaply so you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-00928-00227311-00227583 there's people that sort of always keep 3iYBAGru-rQ-00929-00227584-00227763 on saying that oh you know you can't use 3iYBAGru-rQ-00930-00227764-00227973 you should only use the big one watching 3iYBAGru-rQ-00931-00227973-00228102 because it has a high 100 times more 3iYBAGru-rQ-00932-00228103-00228258 hash power that makes it the most secure 3iYBAGru-rQ-00933-00228259-00228465 well with proof of stake you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00934-00228466-00228765 theoretically have onion we can really 3iYBAGru-rQ-00935-00228766-00228912 calculate us all being basically the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00936-00228913-00229164 same security margin as Bitcoin and even 3iYBAGru-rQ-00937-00229165-00229539 faster so the way that these product 3iYBAGru-rQ-00938-00229540-00229686 that way that our current thinking in 3iYBAGru-rQ-00939-00229687-00229851 terms of reverse take works is it's a 3iYBAGru-rQ-00940-00229852-00230117 sort of multi round protocol where every 3iYBAGru-rQ-00941-00230119-00230385 single round people basic or the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00942-00230386-00230589 validators basically make bets on which 3iYBAGru-rQ-00943-00230590-00230739 blocks they think are going to end up 3iYBAGru-rQ-00944-00230740-00230969 being in the final chain is if you have 3iYBAGru-rQ-00945-00230971-00231123 the ability to make these bets I kind of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00946-00231123-00231384 whatever ratio they want 3 2 1 9 to 1 50 3iYBAGru-rQ-00947-00231385-00231702 to 100 to 1 and you know the theory is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00948-00231703-00231861 that the higher you bet on what the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00949-00231862-00232017 larger the reward is but the higher your 3iYBAGru-rQ-00950-00232017-00232140 bed you know the much much or you'll 3iYBAGru-rQ-00951-00232141-00232362 lose if a block ends up not being in the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00952-00232363-00232560 main chain so the general approach is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00953-00232561-00232692 that you know there are multiple sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00954-00232692-00232887 candidate blocks people end up betting 3iYBAGru-rQ-00955-00232888-00233040 what if that men's up getting more vets 3iYBAGru-rQ-00956-00233041-00233265 than others eventually kind of convergys 3iYBAGru-rQ-00957-00233266-00233430 people bet three let's say three two one 3iYBAGru-rQ-00958-00233431-00233700 for a blog once once you see that every 3iYBAGru-rQ-00959-00233701-00233841 other validator bets bet three two one 3iYBAGru-rQ-00960-00233842-00234012 for a block you bet 9 to 14 that blog 3iYBAGru-rQ-00961-00234013-00234171 going to see everyone else Manning 91 3iYBAGru-rQ-00962-00234171-00234380 you bet 27 21 and so forth and 3iYBAGru-rQ-00963-00234381-00234588 eventually one two thirds of the people 3iYBAGru-rQ-00964-00234589-00234729 are comfortable betting ten thousand to 3iYBAGru-rQ-00965-00234730-00234846 one that's when you call the blog 3iYBAGru-rQ-00966-00234846-00235191 finalized so one of these sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00967-00235192-00235376 economic arguments that I've made it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00968-00235377-00235650 just jump in having that is a that is 3iYBAGru-rQ-00969-00235651-00235871 absolutely fascinating way of arriving 3iYBAGru-rQ-00970-00235873-00236064 at consensus I have to say that that 3iYBAGru-rQ-00971-00236065-00236139 sense 3iYBAGru-rQ-00972-00236140-00236561 spelling no and so one of the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00973-00236562-00236811 interesting things is that proof of work 3iYBAGru-rQ-00974-00236812-00236985 to some degree is also a betting game 3iYBAGru-rQ-00975-00236986-00237225 because you know what proof of work but 3iYBAGru-rQ-00976-00237226-00237411 basically when you mine a block you are 3iYBAGru-rQ-00977-00237412-00237729 saying you know I am making a bet where 3iYBAGru-rQ-00978-00237730-00238071 I agree that if I mind this block and it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00979-00238071-00238332 gets in then i am going to win 25 3iYBAGru-rQ-00980-00238333-00238614 bitcoins but if I money block and it 3iYBAGru-rQ-00981-00238615-00238857 doesn't get in then I'm going to lose 3iYBAGru-rQ-00982-00238858-00239085 some number let's say 10 or 15 bitcoins 3iYBAGru-rQ-00983-00239086-00239382 worth of electricity costs so the some 3iYBAGru-rQ-00984-00239383-00239490 degree you know when you're actually 3iYBAGru-rQ-00985-00239491-00239642 down when you're actually chit 3iYBAGru-rQ-00986-00239644-00239817 downloading the longest chain you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00987-00239817-00240009 actually are literally checking for you 3iYBAGru-rQ-00988-00240010-00240162 know which is the chain that that the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00989-00240163-00240303 majority of people are willing to bet on 3iYBAGru-rQ-00990-00240304-00240555 so you know the advantage of proof of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00991-00240556-00240765 stake here is basically that instead of 3iYBAGru-rQ-00992-00240766-00240946 the sort of amount of money at stake 3iYBAGru-rQ-00993-00240948-00241161 converging linearly a kind of converge 3iYBAGru-rQ-00994-00241162-00241346 is exponentially it's just let me jump 3iYBAGru-rQ-00995-00241348-00241521 in here and ask it a little bit more 3iYBAGru-rQ-00996-00241521-00241830 about this so if if the if the point at 3iYBAGru-rQ-00997-00241831-00242136 which the block is like chosen and says 3iYBAGru-rQ-00998-00242137-00242451 that's the one in gets in is is when the 3iYBAGru-rQ-00999-00242452-00242832 ratio is 10,000 to 1 I mean isn't the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01000-00242833-00243081 implication that somebody if they have a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01001-00243082-00243473 lot of financial power essentially just 3iYBAGru-rQ-01002-00243475-00243891 put that money up and and so again the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01003-00243892-00244134 idea isn't that anyone has the ability 3iYBAGru-rQ-01004-00244135-00244341 to bed the idea is that there are these 3iYBAGru-rQ-01005-00244342-00244551 validators and you know these are rock 3iYBAGru-rQ-01006-00244552-00244689 validators I put in a whole bunch of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01007-00244690-00244989 money in the purpose take system and uni 3iYBAGru-rQ-01008-00244990-00245190 and each of them has the rights to vote 3iYBAGru-rQ-01009-00245191-00245492 a particular amount so theoretically you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01010-00245494-00245744 know if you have a lot of money then yes 3iYBAGru-rQ-01011-00245746-00245940 you could take you know you could throw 3iYBAGru-rQ-01012-00245941-00246071 it all in and you can sort of make 3iYBAGru-rQ-01013-00246073-00246219 whatever block you want to win but 3iYBAGru-rQ-01014-00246219-00246339 that's basically equivalent to a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01015-00246340-00246630 51-percent attack so the amount that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01016-00246631-00246852 that would cost is basically you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-01017-00246853-00247046 more ether than then there would be 3iYBAGru-rQ-01018-00247048-00247209 deposited in the state system in general 3iYBAGru-rQ-01019-00247210-00247752 period okay now that makes sense so I 3iYBAGru-rQ-01020-00247753-00248150 wanted to ask about 51 percent tax so it 3iYBAGru-rQ-01021-00248151-00248396 what does a 51-percent attack look like 3iYBAGru-rQ-01022-00248398-00248748 in an etherion in proof of work with 3iYBAGru-rQ-01023-00248748-00248948 your every mistake athyrium well let's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01024-00248950-00249296 look both proof in people work at the RM 3iYBAGru-rQ-01025-00249298-00249506 is just like pick one you know you just 3iYBAGru-rQ-01026-00249507-00249687 your own go 100 blocks back mind your 3iYBAGru-rQ-01027-00249688-00249864 own chain your chain is longer at BM you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01028-00249865-00249990 win a hundred blocks to get reverted 3iYBAGru-rQ-01029-00249991-00250325 that's not different at all in a proof 3iYBAGru-rQ-01030-00250326-00250745 of stake it's so there's two 3iYBAGru-rQ-01031-00250746-00250944 possibilities I mean one possibility is 3iYBAGru-rQ-01032-00250944-00251231 a sort of attack before finality and the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01033-00251232-00251399 other possibilities sort of attack after 3iYBAGru-rQ-01034-00251400-00251667 finality so before finality you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-01035-00251667-00251892 theoretically it might be possible for 3iYBAGru-rQ-01036-00251892-00252053 you to sort of slightly bribe all of the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01037-00252054-00252209 voters to sort of switch over from one 3iYBAGru-rQ-01038-00252210-00252542 particular blog to another and you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-01039-00252544-00252749 you might be able to have some some 3iYBAGru-rQ-01040-00252750-00252963 amount of influence there but after you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01041-00252964-00253097 know we don't see it we don't sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01042-00253098-00253266 treat that as being too much of a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01043-00253267-00253400 problem because while the block is not 3iYBAGru-rQ-01044-00253401-00253535 supposed to be finalized at that point 3iYBAGru-rQ-01045-00253536-00253794 anyway after finality what that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01046-00253794-00253919 basically means is that bowl without 3iYBAGru-rQ-01047-00253920-00254132 these validators basically stakes their 3iYBAGru-rQ-01048-00254133-00254360 entire security deposits on that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01049-00254361-00254648 particular block being finalized so one 3iYBAGru-rQ-01050-00254649-00254834 thing that could happen is if two-thirds 3iYBAGru-rQ-01051-00254835-00255371 of the validators end up being a end up 3iYBAGru-rQ-01052-00255372-00255572 basically wanting to create a new fork 3iYBAGru-rQ-01053-00255573-00255773 then they can say okay well we're going 3iYBAGru-rQ-01054-00255774-00255953 we already photon that walk block or 3iYBAGru-rQ-01055-00255954-00256226 also get a vote on this new blog and you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01056-00256227-00256373 know when that happens that means that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01057-00256374-00256508 all these values are going to have to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01058-00256509-00256863 lose their security deposits on the but 3iYBAGru-rQ-01059-00256864-00256989 you know they'll be able to sort of make 3iYBAGru-rQ-01060-00256990-00257150 two chains and those new chains roll 3iYBAGru-rQ-01061-00257151-00257306 work indistinguishable from each other 3iYBAGru-rQ-01062-00257307-00257538 and at that point is basically the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01063-00257539-00257849 system goes into this mode where it kind 3iYBAGru-rQ-01064-00257850-00258053 of use a subjective resolution so you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01065-00258054-00258269 know users would individually look at 3iYBAGru-rQ-01066-00258270-00258449 which shameless off first and you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-01067-00258450-00258572 eventually sort of a consensus would 3iYBAGru-rQ-01068-00258573-00258779 form around one of them but this is the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01069-00258780-00258942 kind of emergency mode you know the cost 3iYBAGru-rQ-01070-00258942-00259157 of it should be basically economically 3iYBAGru-rQ-01071-00259158-00259310 equivalent state you know buying more 3iYBAGru-rQ-01072-00259311-00259448 asics than the rest of the Bitcoin 3iYBAGru-rQ-01073-00259449-00259703 network combined and at that point 3iYBAGru-rQ-01074-00259704-00259880 basically having power the power to sort 3iYBAGru-rQ-01075-00259881-00260081 of screw up with it and whatever extent 3iYBAGru-rQ-01076-00260082-00260302 whatever extent you want in any case and 3iYBAGru-rQ-01077-00260303-00260667 so with double spending so in the theory 3iYBAGru-rQ-01078-00260667-00260795 and we have two types of transactions 3iYBAGru-rQ-01079-00260796-00260937 right so we have the monetary 3iYBAGru-rQ-01080-00260938-00261146 transaction financial nature and then we 3iYBAGru-rQ-01081-00261147-00261551 have contracts what what is the risk of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01082-00261552-00261690 double spending on a contract does that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01083-00261691-00262046 look like you cannot be ready in 48 so 3iYBAGru-rQ-01084-00262047-00262199 the idea basically is that you be able 3iYBAGru-rQ-01085-00262200-00262583 to revert blocks and when you revert 3iYBAGru-rQ-01086-00262584-00262730 blog that means that you know if there 3iYBAGru-rQ-01087-00262731-00262834 was some instance 3iYBAGru-rQ-01088-00262835-00263120 a happens before bead then in in the new 3iYBAGru-rQ-01089-00263121-00263246 blog shin you created you might have a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01090-00263247-00263488 situation where be happens before a so 3iYBAGru-rQ-01091-00263489-00263789 one example of a 51-percent attack might 3iYBAGru-rQ-01092-00263790-00263996 be is that lets say i register on the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01093-00263997-00264331 etherium name registry fatality f then 3iYBAGru-rQ-01094-00264332-00264566 you decide who I want I mean evil 3iYBAGru-rQ-01095-00264567-00264748 advertiser i wanna i want to have that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01096-00264749-00264896 page for myself and i want to create 3iYBAGru-rQ-01097-00264897-00265108 create ads about pornography on on that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01098-00265109-00265402 side then basically what you do as you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01099-00265403-00265774 say you do a 51-percent attack where you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01100-00265775-00265960 sort of revert all the blocks at the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01101-00265961-00266189 before the after the point where I 3iYBAGru-rQ-01102-00266190-00266441 registered for Tel Aviv then in your own 3iYBAGru-rQ-01103-00266442-00266578 private chain you would register with 3iYBAGru-rQ-01104-00266579-00266822 Alec sorry for yourself and you know in 3iYBAGru-rQ-01105-00266823-00267017 your chain you would have you would own 3iYBAGru-rQ-01106-00267018-00267202 that domain and you would be able to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01107-00267203-00267395 point the domain to wear whatever you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01108-00267396-00267874 want so you know that's another example 3iYBAGru-rQ-01109-00267875-00268217 would be a lottery so for example or 3iYBAGru-rQ-01110-00268218-00268435 just gambling in general so if you're 3iYBAGru-rQ-01111-00268436-00268582 participating in some kind of gambling 3iYBAGru-rQ-01112-00268583-00268780 application and you lost a big bet you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01113-00268781-00268919 could try to reverse the blow a few 3iYBAGru-rQ-01114-00268920-00269083 blocks and you're sort of reach ryan see 3iYBAGru-rQ-01115-00269084-00269499 if you if you win the next time so 3iYBAGru-rQ-01116-00269500-00269800 another example might be a market so for 3iYBAGru-rQ-01117-00269801-00270014 example if people replacing orders then 3iYBAGru-rQ-01118-00270015-00270205 let's say some big event happens and 3iYBAGru-rQ-01119-00270206-00270422 because of that price is suddenly moved 3iYBAGru-rQ-01120-00270423-00270617 by a lot then you might want to sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01121-00270618-00270859 refer to block chain by bit and be able 3iYBAGru-rQ-01122-00270860-00271054 to claim all of these sort of historical 3iYBAGru-rQ-01123-00271055-00271183 orders that are up prices that are 3iYBAGru-rQ-01124-00271184-00271322 really much much much much higher than 3iYBAGru-rQ-01125-00271323-00271582 the current we should be so like 3iYBAGru-rQ-01126-00271583-00271742 basically every different application 3iYBAGru-rQ-01127-00271743-00271882 has sort of its own different set of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01128-00271883-00272042 things that you could potentially do if 3iYBAGru-rQ-01129-00272043-00272200 you have the ability to magically 3iYBAGru-rQ-01130-00272201-00272741 reverse the watchings time ok but the i 3iYBAGru-rQ-01131-00272742-00272908 guess the idea is have a proof of state 3iYBAGru-rQ-01132-00272909-00273148 that will be more expensive I wanted to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01133-00273149-00273413 I wanted to circle back way briefly at 3iYBAGru-rQ-01134-00273414-00273647 one point there so you said in the case 3iYBAGru-rQ-01135-00273648-00274145 of 51% attack the attackers so these two 3iYBAGru-rQ-01136-00274146-00274322 thirds of the validators that would 3iYBAGru-rQ-01137-00274323-00274571 execute that attack would lose their 3iYBAGru-rQ-01138-00274572-00274793 security deposit but how is that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01139-00274794-00275035 possible if the chain is formed wouldn't 3iYBAGru-rQ-01140-00275036-00275200 then they'd be able at least on that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01141-00275201-00275473 pork that they control to still have 3iYBAGru-rQ-01142-00275474-00275687 that security deposit or to roll back to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01143-00275688-00275950 knowing where they had it so actually so 3iYBAGru-rQ-01144-00275951-00276225 basically this it depends so 3iYBAGru-rQ-01145-00276226-00276518 theoretically they control the chain and 3iYBAGru-rQ-01146-00276519-00276792 they you know they can refuse to accept 3iYBAGru-rQ-01147-00276793-00277212 transactions but I wrote this blog post 3iYBAGru-rQ-01148-00277213-00277452 on censorship a few weeks back we're 3iYBAGru-rQ-01149-00277453-00277656 basically pointed out that you know if 3iYBAGru-rQ-01150-00277657-00277875 even a man is sort of a monopoly 3iYBAGru-rQ-01151-00277876-00278136 coalition of users controls a particular 3iYBAGru-rQ-01152-00278137-00278358 chain and they wants to sort of make it 3iYBAGru-rQ-01153-00278359-00278517 make that chain available to everyone 3iYBAGru-rQ-01154-00278518-00278721 then there are going to be ways to kind 3iYBAGru-rQ-01155-00278722-00278913 of sneak transactions into the chain 3iYBAGru-rQ-01156-00278914-00279161 that ends up having the effect of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01157-00279162-00279396 basically you know doing it just about 3iYBAGru-rQ-01158-00279397-00279609 anything and one of those things could 3iYBAGru-rQ-01159-00279610-00279933 be destroying security deposits so it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01160-00279934-00280287 a so you know they basically if 3iYBAGru-rQ-01161-00280288-00280434 theoretically would be able to but at 3iYBAGru-rQ-01162-00280435-00280689 the cost of like basically no destroying 3iYBAGru-rQ-01163-00280690-00280863 the functionality via our network and at 3iYBAGru-rQ-01164-00280864-00281001 that point the value of your security 3iYBAGru-rQ-01165-00281002-00281142 deposits will be knocked out as your own 3iYBAGru-rQ-01166-00281143-00281481 any case you're listening to this show 3iYBAGru-rQ-01167-00281482-00281727 in parts thanks to all the support we 3iYBAGru-rQ-01168-00281728-00281925 get from our great sponsors we have some 3iYBAGru-rQ-01169-00281926-00282141 some fantastic companies who work with 3iYBAGru-rQ-01170-00282142-00282339 and we're very proud of what they doin 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briefly before we move on you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-01185-00285568-00285816 besides the main client writes some of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01186-00285817-00285966 the things you guys are working on is 3iYBAGru-rQ-01187-00285967-00286284 whisper and form yes what's their role 3iYBAGru-rQ-01188-00286285-00286476 particularly in the context of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01189-00286477-00286785 scalability Argos relative irrelevant 3iYBAGru-rQ-01190-00286786-00287454 for scalability as well um so and maybe 3iYBAGru-rQ-01191-00287455-00287637 just whisper I mean they are real the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01192-00287638-00287751 Earth's relevance the block chain 3iYBAGru-rQ-01193-00287752-00287895 scalability but the definitely all 3iYBAGru-rQ-01194-00287896-00288078 relevance the application scalability 3iYBAGru-rQ-01195-00288079-00288285 because applications definitely should 3iYBAGru-rQ-01196-00288286-00288456 be doing a whole bunch of things off the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01197-00288457-00288630 block chain so that you know if you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01198-00288631-00288951 don't need consensus on them and just 3iYBAGru-rQ-01199-00288952-00289143 for this is who aren't aware if that's a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01200-00289144-00289413 whisper is the file so no whispers their 3iYBAGru-rQ-01201-00289414-00289572 messaging system 3iYBAGru-rQ-01202-00289573-00289760 a decentralized messaging and swarm is a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01203-00289761-00289944 file sources for the other way around 3iYBAGru-rQ-01204-00289945-00290619 yeah correct um okay so you really 3iYBAGru-rQ-01205-00290620-00290967 mentioned before the topic of governance 3iYBAGru-rQ-01206-00290968-00291123 and that's actually something we wanted 3iYBAGru-rQ-01207-00291124-00291249 to talk about I think it's something 3iYBAGru-rQ-01208-00291250-00291495 that's really important that we we start 3iYBAGru-rQ-01209-00291496-00291768 covering more because it's a it's a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01210-00291769-00292182 tricky topic that sort of under I think 3iYBAGru-rQ-01211-00292183-00292569 on your disgust and and we're going to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01212-00292570-00292719 have Gavin Andresen on soon to talk 3iYBAGru-rQ-01213-00292720-00293064 about this topic as well so in in this 3iYBAGru-rQ-01214-00293065-00293315 context you guys just added a new 3iYBAGru-rQ-01215-00293316-00293712 foundation board yes can you tell a bit 3iYBAGru-rQ-01216-00293713-00293880 about that and what's going to be the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01217-00293881-00294108 role of the foundation board in the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01218-00294109-00294393 development of etherium so we brought in 3iYBAGru-rQ-01219-00294394-00294734 a new executive director being Chan and 3iYBAGru-rQ-01220-00294735-00294924 also this family of three new members to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01221-00294925-00295155 the foundation board so then the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01222-00295156-00295326 Foundation Board know is going to be the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01223-00295327-00295500 board of the foundation you know the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01224-00295501-00295722 sort of governing group that sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01225-00295723-00295962 ultimately makes this a makes decisions 3iYBAGru-rQ-01226-00295963-00296643 um the air in the hole I mean they 3iYBAGru-rQ-01227-00296644-00296808 basically are doing the same sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01228-00296809-00296988 things that a board of directors would 3iYBAGru-rQ-01229-00296989-00297204 do in any kind of regular and nonprofit 3iYBAGru-rQ-01230-00297205-00297831 organization um and there are also other 3iYBAGru-rQ-01231-00297832-00298038 sort of specific focuses you know things 3iYBAGru-rQ-01232-00298039-00298239 like fundraising things like sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01233-00298240-00298458 managing institutional partnerships that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01234-00298459-00298893 are also important okay so first of all 3iYBAGru-rQ-01235-00298894-00299271 when you talk about them doing something 3iYBAGru-rQ-01236-00299272-00299514 that any other nonprofit foundation 3iYBAGru-rQ-01237-00299515-00299649 board would do well I mean I think 3iYBAGru-rQ-01238-00299650-00299937 normally because we have a sort of a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01239-00299938-00300237 weird tension here now like a foundation 3iYBAGru-rQ-01240-00300238-00300485 is a centralized institution and then 3iYBAGru-rQ-01241-00300486-00300669 it's running this decentralized protocol 3iYBAGru-rQ-01242-00300670-00300900 road so I mean the validation isn't 3iYBAGru-rQ-01243-00300901-00301209 really running the protocol so to speak 3iYBAGru-rQ-01244-00301210-00301371 I mean right now you know it is the one 3iYBAGru-rQ-01245-00301372-00301709 that's developed the software but it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01246-00301710-00302106 the and you know the foundation is going 3iYBAGru-rQ-01247-00302107-00302313 to have sort of a lot of I guess moral 3iYBAGru-rQ-01248-00302314-00302508 authority over it but you know moral 3iYBAGru-rQ-01249-00302509-00302649 authority is basically all that there is 3iYBAGru-rQ-01250-00302650-00302955 so you know if the foundation 3iYBAGru-rQ-01251-00302956-00303069 ends up acting in some way that's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01252-00303070-00303255 objectionable then people can create 3iYBAGru-rQ-01253-00303256-00303387 sort of a different thing in call it 3iYBAGru-rQ-01254-00303388-00303561 athyrium and you know these your 3iYBAGru-rQ-01255-00303562-00303762 ecosystem will ultimately kind of end up 3iYBAGru-rQ-01256-00303763-00304023 following that so and so there's one 3iYBAGru-rQ-01257-00304024-00304155 thing that point out here most of the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01258-00304156-00304368 people on the board are not I mean apart 3iYBAGru-rQ-01259-00304369-00304515 from yourself or not from the crypto 3iYBAGru-rQ-01260-00304516-00304800 space was that a choice was it that this 3iYBAGru-rQ-01261-00304801-00305085 sort of happened yes people that and 3iYBAGru-rQ-01262-00305086-00305487 what why did you choose to do that um in 3iYBAGru-rQ-01263-00305488-00305742 part because just because we wanted to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01264-00305743-00305952 sort of help expand etherium beyond just 3iYBAGru-rQ-01265-00305953-00306222 the existing crypt of space and try to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01266-00306223-00306384 push hard toward you know sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01267-00306385-00306965 mainstream institutional adoption it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01268-00306966-00307188 you know basically just part of this 3iYBAGru-rQ-01269-00307189-00307578 this whole idea of expanding you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-01270-00307579-00307752 that I've been caring about quite a lot 3iYBAGru-rQ-01271-00307753-00307902 over the over the past half year it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01272-00307903-00308076 really just expanding beyond sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01273-00308077-00308400 small crowd the that's sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01274-00308401-00308562 congregating around things like big win 3iYBAGru-rQ-01275-00308563-00308937 and old coins and moving its award you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01276-00308938-00309171 know opportunities to actually sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01277-00309172-00309414 help people on a large scale and doing 3iYBAGru-rQ-01278-00309415-00309600 that necessarily involves having sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01279-00309601-00309992 input from people that are from these a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01280-00309993-00310308 more traditional industries I mean that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01281-00310309-00310704 there's different make sense now the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01282-00310705-00310851 foundation will have the task of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01283-00310852-00310956 managing the funds that were raised on 3iYBAGru-rQ-01284-00310957-00311196 the crowd sale and so essentially that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01285-00311197-00311358 how it works rule know is there's a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01286-00311359-00311586 foundation who has the funds from the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01287-00311587-00311763 crowd sale and they pay it was a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01288-00311764-00311892 for-profit company developing the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01289-00311893-00312171 software I'm curious like what will that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01290-00312172-00312306 look like in the future like how much 3iYBAGru-rQ-01291-00312307-00312518 money is less than that crowd sale and 3iYBAGru-rQ-01292-00312519-00312840 local versus emotionally this idea of if 3iYBAGru-rQ-01293-00312841-00313038 def being a for-profit company I need 3iYBAGru-rQ-01294-00313039-00313254 technically it's registered as a company 3iYBAGru-rQ-01295-00313255-00313416 but you know it is a subsidiary of the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01296-00313417-00313716 foundation so this isn't this isn't like 3iYBAGru-rQ-01297-00313717-00313875 you know myself you havena Jeff half 3iYBAGru-rQ-01298-00313876-00314166 shares and what and were and we're sort 3iYBAGru-rQ-01299-00314167-00314313 of contracting with the foundation right 3iYBAGru-rQ-01300-00314314-00314658 now it's a if dev is basically an arm of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01301-00314659-00314877 the foundation um now in terms of how 3iYBAGru-rQ-01302-00314878-00315009 things are going to go in the future 3iYBAGru-rQ-01303-00315010-00315291 there definitely are sort of a lot of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01304-00315292-00315497 people inside at the REM that are 3iYBAGru-rQ-01305-00315498-00315786 heavily interested in doing their own 3iYBAGru-rQ-01306-00315787-00316011 thing and that couldn't know that on 3iYBAGru-rQ-01307-00316012-00316167 sale starting a company I think we'll 3iYBAGru-rQ-01308-00316168-00316281 see multiple company 3iYBAGru-rQ-01309-00316282-00316707 um nurse you know people are interested 3iYBAGru-rQ-01310-00316708-00316917 in going toward applications some people 3iYBAGru-rQ-01311-00316918-00317046 are interested in sort of staying in 3iYBAGru-rQ-01312-00317047-00317259 staying that in staying and working on 3iYBAGru-rQ-01313-00317260-00317700 the core so I mean I think it's not it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01314-00317701-00317874 going to be impossible to avoid sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01315-00317875-00318042 some kind of diaspora effects in that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01316-00318043-00318306 sense but I think ultimately you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-01317-00318307-00318465 which organizations were involved with 3iYBAGru-rQ-01318-00318466-00318600 might not necessarily matter too much 3iYBAGru-rQ-01319-00318601-00318795 because you know we're ultimately all 3iYBAGru-rQ-01320-00318796-00318930 going to be in the same skype groups 3iYBAGru-rQ-01321-00318931-00319038 we're all going to be developing the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01322-00319039-00319572 same sort of stuff and in any case um in 3iYBAGru-rQ-01323-00319573-00319848 in the long term like it's one of the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01324-00319849-00320052 ideas was for the foundation to take on 3iYBAGru-rQ-01325-00320053-00320429 sort of a more I guess advocacy for and 3iYBAGru-rQ-01326-00320430-00320724 communication focused role but I think 3iYBAGru-rQ-01327-00320725-00320901 we're still deciding the extent to which 3iYBAGru-rQ-01328-00320902-00321069 it'll be that and the extent to which 3iYBAGru-rQ-01329-00321070-00321237 the foundation will sort of directly be 3iYBAGru-rQ-01330-00321238-00321498 running and managing development so then 3iYBAGru-rQ-01331-00321499-00321723 is the idea that each death continues to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01332-00321724-00322001 be the core developer of the software or 3iYBAGru-rQ-01333-00322002-00322251 or that all these smaller companies 3iYBAGru-rQ-01334-00322252-00322563 spin-off companies then I think the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01335-00322564-00322695 spin-off companies are going to end up 3iYBAGru-rQ-01336-00322696-00322995 doing it increasingly more over time I 3iYBAGru-rQ-01337-00322996-00323217 think like a good outcome would be 3iYBAGru-rQ-01338-00323218-00323427 something similar to lenox where you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01339-00323428-00323655 know 75% of the code is just written by 3iYBAGru-rQ-01340-00323656-00324129 owned by companies in the space is what 3iYBAGru-rQ-01341-00324130-00324288 the foundation right now you know bait 3iYBAGru-rQ-01342-00324289-00324462 in terms of how much money it has left 3iYBAGru-rQ-01343-00324463-00324792 the Foundation's current capital is I 3iYBAGru-rQ-01344-00324793-00325020 believe somewhere on the order of one 3iYBAGru-rQ-01345-00325021-00325227 and a half to two million dollars or so 3iYBAGru-rQ-01346-00325228-00325533 not including the ether now including 3iYBAGru-rQ-01347-00325534-00325680 the ether of course there is quite a bit 3iYBAGru-rQ-01348-00325681-00325911 more and you know right now nobody knows 3iYBAGru-rQ-01349-00325912-00326183 really what the exact price of ether is 3iYBAGru-rQ-01350-00326184-00326592 if I check on Queen Martha Capcom for 3iYBAGru-rQ-01351-00326593-00326916 you Third Point that's a that's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01352-00326917-00327162 obviously sort of one of the bellwethers 3iYBAGru-rQ-01353-00327163-00327321 that I guess some people some people are 3iYBAGru-rQ-01354-00327322-00327753 looking at but it's a cig somewhere it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01355-00327754-00327939 currently out of it yeah I currently had 3iYBAGru-rQ-01356-00327940-00328209 to 80 um there are other exchanges where 3iYBAGru-rQ-01357-00328210-00328419 you have bid orders already popping up 3iYBAGru-rQ-01358-00328420-00328560 some of them are going like somewhere on 3iYBAGru-rQ-01359-00328561-00328821 the order one or two dollars so you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-01360-00328822-00329127 it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01361-00329128-00329452 very hard you can right now it's hard to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01362-00329453-00329650 say once this sort of thawing process 3iYBAGru-rQ-01363-00329651-00329797 happens in three or four days and we 3iYBAGru-rQ-01364-00329798-00329944 actually start seeing you know a large 3iYBAGru-rQ-01365-00329945-00330055 amount of volume and then I guess we'll 3iYBAGru-rQ-01366-00330056-00330235 see just how rich the foundation is a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01367-00330236-00330445 eunuch road ends up sort of surviving 3iYBAGru-rQ-01368-00330446-00330838 for any amount of time between six some 3iYBAGru-rQ-01369-00330839-00331033 between six to eight months and 3iYBAGru-rQ-01370-00331034-00331262 something like sand I mean if if he 3iYBAGru-rQ-01371-00331263-00331699 really goes up then you know forever and 3iYBAGru-rQ-01372-00331700-00331939 but then but then it supports to know 3iYBAGru-rQ-01373-00331940-00332167 that you know ether isn't the only route 3iYBAGru-rQ-01374-00332168-00332389 for the Foundation's get funding for 3iYBAGru-rQ-01375-00332390-00332734 continued that development so you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-01376-00332735-00332869 there are just sort of plain old 3iYBAGru-rQ-01377-00332870-00333133 donations and sort of big win foundation 3iYBAGru-rQ-01378-00333134-00333256 style memberships you know there's a lot 3iYBAGru-rQ-01379-00333257-00333535 of possibilities and that's one of the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01380-00333536-00333682 important points that you know the board 3iYBAGru-rQ-01381-00333683-00333817 and the directors are actively working 3iYBAGru-rQ-01382-00333818-00334150 toward okay so that that's very 3iYBAGru-rQ-01383-00334151-00334384 interesting what one of the things that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01384-00334385-00334783 I was talking with Taylor Goering at 3iYBAGru-rQ-01385-00334784-00335041 some point and he mentioned the topic of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01386-00335042-00335332 private block chains and he mentioned 3iYBAGru-rQ-01387-00335333-00335695 that that he was specifically set up to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01388-00335696-00336037 support that and and I also saw on I 3iYBAGru-rQ-01389-00336038-00336212 think Sebastian you so down on one of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01390-00336213-00336394 the pages it mentioned basically how you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01391-00336395-00336664 can say an identifier and basically run 3iYBAGru-rQ-01392-00336665-00336921 to the view own private human network 3iYBAGru-rQ-01393-00336922-00337237 what role do you see for that you think 3iYBAGru-rQ-01394-00337238-00337487 that's going to become a frequent usage 3iYBAGru-rQ-01395-00337488-00337792 or do you think most think there's going 3iYBAGru-rQ-01396-00337793-00338047 to be lots of private networks we learn 3iYBAGru-rQ-01397-00338048-00338173 I know a lot of groups that are very 3iYBAGru-rQ-01398-00338174-00338487 interested in that concept already and 3iYBAGru-rQ-01399-00338488-00338746 for what applications do you think that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01400-00338747-00338923 these private networks make sense and 3iYBAGru-rQ-01401-00338924-00339079 for all applications do you think people 3iYBAGru-rQ-01402-00339080-00339295 would would choose the main etherium 3iYBAGru-rQ-01403-00339296-00339565 right angle so I actually have a blog 3iYBAGru-rQ-01404-00339566-00339715 post on this that we got to publish in 3iYBAGru-rQ-01405-00339716-00339871 the next couple of days but the general 3iYBAGru-rQ-01406-00339872-00340099 idea is I mean both categories have 3iYBAGru-rQ-01407-00340100-00340399 different advantages so both private 3iYBAGru-rQ-01408-00340400-00340537 networks for example you know it's sort 3iYBAGru-rQ-01409-00340538-00340924 of easier for for whoever is creating 3iYBAGru-rQ-01410-00340925-00341077 the application to sort of have control 3iYBAGru-rQ-01411-00341078-00341248 over it to have the ability to quickly 3iYBAGru-rQ-01412-00341249-00341467 update things if they need to reverse 3iYBAGru-rQ-01413-00341468-00341815 transactions and so forth things are all 3iYBAGru-rQ-01414-00341816-00341998 so much you can also have much lower 3iYBAGru-rQ-01415-00341999-00342157 wait and see faster transaction 3iYBAGru-rQ-01416-00342158-00342535 confirmations you can also have 3iYBAGru-rQ-01417-00342536-00343028 potentially a cheaper transactions 3iYBAGru-rQ-01418-00343029-00343208 higher scalability in a higher 3iYBAGru-rQ-01419-00343209-00343478 transaction throughput now with that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01420-00343479-00343622 particular part of the calculation I 3iYBAGru-rQ-01421-00343623-00343771 think it's going to change on what once 3iYBAGru-rQ-01422-00343772-00343973 scalability comes in but you know this 3iYBAGru-rQ-01423-00343974-00344198 is the world we live in right now public 3iYBAGru-rQ-01424-00344199-00344357 blog chains they have two benefits one 3iYBAGru-rQ-01425-00344358-00344531 of them is the no trust aspect so you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01426-00344532-00344810 can create applications where even if 3iYBAGru-rQ-01427-00344811-00345107 you don't have full control and you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-01428-00345108-00345236 we're even the developer the application 3iYBAGru-rQ-01429-00345237-00345619 either has no control or partial control 3iYBAGru-rQ-01430-00345620-00345980 the second thing that's kind of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01431-00345981-00346196 important as a sort of network effects 3iYBAGru-rQ-01432-00346197-00346541 argument so the idea here is let's say 3iYBAGru-rQ-01433-00346542-00346682 take one particular ball chain 3iYBAGru-rQ-01434-00346683-00346856 application let's say domain name 3iYBAGru-rQ-01435-00346857-00347093 transfer escrow so the idea here is that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01436-00347094-00347426 you know there's a in general if I have 3iYBAGru-rQ-01437-00347427-00347564 a domain name I want to sell the domain 3iYBAGru-rQ-01438-00347565-00347933 name to you then the issue that we would 3iYBAGru-rQ-01439-00347934-00348254 have is that you know either it's a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01440-00348255-00348452 standard counterparty risk problem if I 3iYBAGru-rQ-01441-00348453-00348650 send the money first then you might not 3iYBAGru-rQ-01442-00348651-00348911 send the domain name if you send domain 3iYBAGru-rQ-01443-00348912-00349034 name first and I might not send the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01444-00349035-00349415 money and in general we have entities on 3iYBAGru-rQ-01445-00349416-00349619 the internet that work to sort of to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01446-00349620-00349766 solve this counterparty risk problem 3iYBAGru-rQ-01447-00349767-00349970 that are just escrow providers but they 3iYBAGru-rQ-01448-00349971-00350216 charge three to six percent now watching 3iYBAGru-rQ-01449-00350217-00350441 base solution is if you have domain 3iYBAGru-rQ-01450-00350442-00350615 names on a watch chain and if you have 3iYBAGru-rQ-01451-00350616-00350834 money on a watch chain then you can send 3iYBAGru-rQ-01452-00350835-00351107 your domain name into a contract which 3iYBAGru-rQ-01453-00351108-00351269 automatically hands it over to the first 3iYBAGru-rQ-01454-00351270-00351449 person that provides the money so the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01455-00351450-00351617 tree becomes atomic and either happens 3iYBAGru-rQ-01456-00351618-00351881 or it doesn't happen and you know with 3iYBAGru-rQ-01457-00351882-00352022 that you can basically cut the escrow 3iYBAGru-rQ-01458-00352023-00352343 costs to answer three sets and that's a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01459-00352344-00352466 really cool application and it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01460-00352467-00352766 wonderful but one of the important point 3iYBAGru-rQ-01461-00352767-00352925 is that in order for that application to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01462-00352926-00353120 actually work you need to have domain 3iYBAGru-rQ-01463-00353121-00353417 names and currency on the same public 3iYBAGru-rQ-01464-00353418-00353633 watching or while the same block chain 3iYBAGru-rQ-01465-00353634-00353789 but you know ultimately it's going to be 3iYBAGru-rQ-01466-00353790-00353951 very hard to sort of i think for people 3iYBAGru-rQ-01467-00353952-00354125 to agree on a sort of private watching 3iYBAGru-rQ-01468-00354126-00354308 for everything is that we just involves 3iYBAGru-rQ-01469-00354309-00354518 so many industries so i think the public 3iYBAGru-rQ-01470-00354519-00354656 approach is going to win out for that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01471-00354657-00354974 sort of stuff yeah that makes perfect 3iYBAGru-rQ-01472-00354975-00355130 sense i think that's going to be very 3iYBAGru-rQ-01473-00355131-00355289 interesting to see how that goes and i'm 3iYBAGru-rQ-01474-00355290-00355478 sure there will be a lot of a sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01475-00355479-00355729 interoperability as well or maybe 3iYBAGru-rQ-01476-00355730-00355952 privately options will be interoperable 3iYBAGru-rQ-01477-00355953-00356392 with the public blockchain kablooey I 3iYBAGru-rQ-01478-00356393-00356636 wanted to circle a little bit back to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01479-00356637-00356849 this governance topic especially because 3iYBAGru-rQ-01480-00356850-00357140 it's been such a you know because of the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01481-00357141-00357407 block size to base mainly I'm sure 3iYBAGru-rQ-01482-00357408-00357557 you've been watching that as well and 3iYBAGru-rQ-01483-00357558-00357692 you know before you hear him you were 3iYBAGru-rQ-01484-00357693-00357905 deeply involved in Bitcoin for a long 3iYBAGru-rQ-01485-00357906-00358199 time what are the main takeaways that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01486-00358200-00358481 you've learned from watching the block 3iYBAGru-rQ-01487-00358482-00358715 sighs debate when it comes to eat here 3iYBAGru-rQ-01488-00358716-00358961 IAM right so there's two issues there 3iYBAGru-rQ-01489-00358962-00359177 one of them is a sort of object level 3iYBAGru-rQ-01490-00359178-00359333 issue of well you know well how do you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01491-00359334-00359579 regulate the block size and the thing is 3iYBAGru-rQ-01492-00359580-00359771 that you know with Bitcoin has always 3iYBAGru-rQ-01493-00359772-00359960 been the choice always been between sort 3iYBAGru-rQ-01494-00359961-00360128 of one megabyte at eight megabytes and 3iYBAGru-rQ-01495-00360129-00360263 it has a really advanced much beyond 3iYBAGru-rQ-01496-00360264-00360434 that but you know with the theorem we've 3iYBAGru-rQ-01497-00360435-00360674 always sort of been not thinking not 3iYBAGru-rQ-01498-00360675-00360962 about numbers but about mechanisms so 3iYBAGru-rQ-01499-00360963-00361124 you know originally the thought was 3iYBAGru-rQ-01500-00361125-00361301 fixed value then the thought switched 3iYBAGru-rQ-01501-00361302-00361634 over to this sort of exponential moving 3iYBAGru-rQ-01502-00361635-00361811 average approach now I'm switching over 3iYBAGru-rQ-01503-00361812-00362051 to the site uncle retargeting approach 3iYBAGru-rQ-01504-00362052-00362321 and i think that the sort of choosing 3iYBAGru-rQ-01505-00362322-00362513 institutions instead of choosing results 3iYBAGru-rQ-01506-00362514-00362795 in general is a kind of more robust way 3iYBAGru-rQ-01507-00362796-00363347 of of doing governance but the sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01508-00363348-00363614 meta level concern is that you know he 3iYBAGru-rQ-01509-00363615-00363767 general how do these decisions get 3iYBAGru-rQ-01510-00363768-00363986 chosen right so let me just jump in 3iYBAGru-rQ-01511-00363987-00364355 because you guys you can maybe have 3iYBAGru-rQ-01512-00364356-00364562 those discussions and say oh we're going 3iYBAGru-rQ-01513-00364563-00364736 to talk about institutions to mechanism 3iYBAGru-rQ-01514-00364737-00364973 not about end result because you have 3iYBAGru-rQ-01515-00364974-00365162 much more control over that whole 3iYBAGru-rQ-01516-00365163-00365372 discussion because nobody has that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01517-00365373-00365525 control I mean you can go in there and 3iYBAGru-rQ-01518-00365526-00365708 say hey we need to talk about the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01519-00365709-00365945 process not to resolve but that doesn't 3iYBAGru-rQ-01520-00365946-00366059 mean anybody's going to listen to you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01521-00366060-00366299 you can't agree I think that ya mean 3iYBAGru-rQ-01522-00366300-00366476 athyrium does but does benefit from 3iYBAGru-rQ-01523-00366477-00366686 elliot from me sort of greater degree of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01524-00366687-00366880 development sexualisation and sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01525-00366881-00367214 film just i guess more all 3iYBAGru-rQ-01526-00367215-00367448 centralization to some degree and you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01527-00367449-00367634 know that does have benefits and you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01528-00367635-00367889 think that's something that because of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01529-00367890-00368180 exactly that you would want to maintain 3iYBAGru-rQ-01530-00368181-00368426 in some extent i think that in the long 3iYBAGru-rQ-01531-00368427-00368600 term something you know that's sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01532-00368601-00368816 highly decentralized is necessary but I 3iYBAGru-rQ-01533-00368817-00368990 think these are look this is the kind of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01534-00368991-00369104 phase where 3iYBAGru-rQ-01535-00369105-00369407 having some group of people that sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01536-00369408-00369806 has a sort of this sort of showing 3iYBAGru-rQ-01537-00369807-00369938 points of greater more authority 3iYBAGru-rQ-01538-00369939-00370100 definitely can help sort of move the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01539-00370101-00370265 community forward in one direction I 3iYBAGru-rQ-01540-00370266-00370478 think I mean I think it's kind of like 3iYBAGru-rQ-01541-00370479-00370619 different to your Canaries I think it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01542-00370620-00370787 a training wheel what's useful now and 3iYBAGru-rQ-01543-00370788-00370886 so it's going to get less and less 3iYBAGru-rQ-01544-00370887-00371120 peaceful over time and at some points 3iYBAGru-rQ-01545-00371121-00371255 you know it'll switch over to the points 3iYBAGru-rQ-01546-00371256-00371426 we're making it as distributed as 3iYBAGru-rQ-01547-00371427-00371732 possible is the correct thing now of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01548-00371733-00371846 course I'm like one of our listeners 3iYBAGru-rQ-01549-00371847-00372010 pointing this out you could have that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01550-00372011-00372248 built into the Genesis block you could 3iYBAGru-rQ-01551-00372249-00372386 have the government's model built in 3iYBAGru-rQ-01552-00372387-00372797 yeah why was that not done for a theorem 3iYBAGru-rQ-01553-00372798-00372962 is that something that's just no it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01554-00372963-00373193 just something that we aim for a lot of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01555-00373194-00373292 those things we just didn't have enough 3iYBAGru-rQ-01556-00373293-00373445 time to think of them and we wanted to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01557-00373446-00373667 just keep frontier symbol is that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01558-00373668-00373787 something that could be implemented in 3iYBAGru-rQ-01559-00373788-00373934 the future is it too late now that it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01560-00373935-00374447 been released um I mean something that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01561-00374448-00374657 could be done so one of our ideas for 3iYBAGru-rQ-01562-00374658-00374837 2.0 is basically to have this idea where 3iYBAGru-rQ-01563-00374838-00375047 people can vote on changing the code and 3iYBAGru-rQ-01564-00375048-00375272 even having like as much of the code as 3iYBAGru-rQ-01565-00375273-00375434 possible be inside of the virtual 3iYBAGru-rQ-01566-00375435-00375665 machine language so all the changes go 3iYBAGru-rQ-01567-00375666-00375887 to what we be sort of processed just 3iYBAGru-rQ-01568-00375888-00376228 automatically on the consensus level 3iYBAGru-rQ-01569-00376229-00376643 okay cool so before we come to an end 3iYBAGru-rQ-01570-00376644-00376805 here we're sort of at the end of the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01571-00376806-00377243 technical discussion so looking back on 3iYBAGru-rQ-01572-00377244-00377402 the last two years and you've you've 3iYBAGru-rQ-01573-00377403-00377627 come a long way from writing the white 3iYBAGru-rQ-01574-00377628-00378055 paper to now releasing athyrium you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-01575-00378056-00378299 can you give us sort of the night an 3iYBAGru-rQ-01576-00378300-00378518 idea of what you've been through and if 3iYBAGru-rQ-01577-00378519-00378653 you would have done anything differently 3iYBAGru-rQ-01578-00378654-00378926 what would that have been uh there's a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01579-00378927-00379037 lot of things that I would have done 3iYBAGru-rQ-01580-00379038-00379202 differently I mean first of all I think 3iYBAGru-rQ-01581-00379203-00379403 just the way the project formed was just 3iYBAGru-rQ-01582-00379404-00379700 incredibly non-standard like most sort 3iYBAGru-rQ-01583-00379701-00379901 of start up like things tends to be oh 3iYBAGru-rQ-01584-00379902-00380099 hey you know here are a few of us were 3iYBAGru-rQ-01585-00380100-00380276 friends and we have a good idea let's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01586-00380277-00380486 work together and make it Russ athyrium 3iYBAGru-rQ-01587-00380487-00380645 was hey I have a white paper I'm going 3iYBAGru-rQ-01588-00380646-00380933 to send it to 20 of the people that I 3iYBAGru-rQ-01589-00380934-00381146 just happens to know in the last one or 3iYBAGru-rQ-01590-00381147-00381359 two years and you know the first 20 3iYBAGru-rQ-01591-00381360-00381545 people to respond back on the email or 3iYBAGru-rQ-01592-00381546-00381779 Skype just ended up being co-founders so 3iYBAGru-rQ-01593-00381780-00382094 that was a sort of approach that's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01594-00382095-00382268 highly non conventional ended up having 3iYBAGru-rQ-01595-00382269-00382460 its costs and 3iYBAGru-rQ-01596-00382461-00382622 and there definitely were sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01597-00382623-00382834 moments internally where the thing came 3iYBAGru-rQ-01598-00382835-00383090 it looks like it was coming force close 3iYBAGru-rQ-01599-00383091-00383312 to pulling apart on a couple instances 3iYBAGru-rQ-01600-00383313-00383549 but you know ultimately we went we got 3iYBAGru-rQ-01601-00383550-00383756 through can you kidding me i did a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01602-00383757-00383918 little bit like what were some of the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01603-00383919-00384122 instances that that this approach almost 3iYBAGru-rQ-01604-00384123-00384431 made this project fail um there's like a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01605-00384432-00384631 lot of sort of cultural misalignments 3iYBAGru-rQ-01606-00384632-00384842 especially sort of between people are 3iYBAGru-rQ-01607-00384843-00385079 kind of more like developers you were 3iYBAGru-rQ-01608-00385080-00385412 more like not developers I think that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01609-00385413-00385696 the thing is that in general you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-01610-00385697-00386075 just about in just about any money key 3iYBAGru-rQ-01611-00386076-00386318 anyone can be can sort of theoretically 3iYBAGru-rQ-01612-00386319-00386606 be a VSS development person and there's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01613-00386607-00386924 a it's whereas you know which developers 3iYBAGru-rQ-01614-00386925-00387047 and so you know with coding it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01615-00387048-00387161 something where a lot of people just 3iYBAGru-rQ-01616-00387162-00387353 it's obvious that if someone can't see 3iYBAGru-rQ-01617-00387354-00387542 what at all and if someone can do it 3iYBAGru-rQ-01618-00387543-00387653 that means they can't do it always 3iYBAGru-rQ-01619-00387654-00387998 decently so figuring out sort of really 3iYBAGru-rQ-01620-00387999-00388220 how to structure the sort of not non 3iYBAGru-rQ-01621-00388221-00388403 technical side of a team I think is 3iYBAGru-rQ-01622-00388404-00388676 important because like non-technical 3iYBAGru-rQ-01623-00388677-00388865 people i think are extremely crucial but 3iYBAGru-rQ-01624-00388866-00389093 you know the difference between people 3iYBAGru-rQ-01625-00389094-00389357 that can really push push a project for 3iYBAGru-rQ-01626-00389358-00389654 forwarding people it just orders hey it 3iYBAGru-rQ-01627-00389655-00389872 just sort of hanging around and said i 3iYBAGru-rQ-01628-00389873-00390410 think a big one um there's a ain't just 3iYBAGru-rQ-01629-00390411-00390605 on the cultural side i think all people 3iYBAGru-rQ-01630-00390606-00390815 had all these sort of different visions 3iYBAGru-rQ-01631-00390816-00391001 but I mean that's inevitable to some 3iYBAGru-rQ-01632-00391002-00391319 degree but it's something that really 3iYBAGru-rQ-01633-00391320-00391564 should have needs to be handled well um 3iYBAGru-rQ-01634-00391565-00392099 I mean they're sort of on the technical 3iYBAGru-rQ-01635-00392100-00392437 side I think we sort of ended up doing 3iYBAGru-rQ-01636-00392438-00392654 one of the problems that we kept on 3iYBAGru-rQ-01637-00392655-00392819 having over and over again as we kept on 3iYBAGru-rQ-01638-00392820-00393005 having thinking that the project is 3iYBAGru-rQ-01639-00393006-00393206 going to launch in two or three months 3iYBAGru-rQ-01640-00393207-00393497 said so we ended up sort of continuing 3iYBAGru-rQ-01641-00393498-00393770 to try to keep all these sort of clients 3iYBAGru-rQ-01642-00393771-00393911 up and walk step with each other and 3iYBAGru-rQ-01643-00393912-00394052 that ended up so long development down 3iYBAGru-rQ-01644-00394053-00394403 by a lot and you know we ended up trying 3iYBAGru-rQ-01645-00394404-00394559 really really hard to get consensus 3iYBAGru-rQ-01646-00394560-00394742 between see boss boss go in Python on 3iYBAGru-rQ-01647-00394743-00394882 features that don't even exist anymore 3iYBAGru-rQ-01648-00394883-00395198 so that was something that you know if 3iYBAGru-rQ-01649-00395199-00395417 we had thought carefully on that we 3iYBAGru-rQ-01650-00395418-00395570 could have easily cut development i'm 3iYBAGru-rQ-01651-00395571-00395855 down by always three or six months um 3iYBAGru-rQ-01652-00395856-00396095 in terms of just costs I mean there are 3iYBAGru-rQ-01653-00396096-00396257 a lot of costs that we had early on that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01654-00396258-00396434 we didn't need to have you know these 3iYBAGru-rQ-01655-00396435-00396668 sort of 1.7 million dollars that we 3iYBAGru-rQ-01656-00396669-00396854 spent even before the crowd sale I think 3iYBAGru-rQ-01657-00396855-00396995 obviously could have been greatly 3iYBAGru-rQ-01658-00396996-00397745 optimized I mean to some and to some 3iYBAGru-rQ-01659-00397746-00397889 degree this is all kind of the first 3iYBAGru-rQ-01660-00397890-00398006 time needs your business or your 3iYBAGru-rQ-01661-00398007-00398216 experience both for myself and for a lot 3iYBAGru-rQ-01662-00398217-00398453 of other people on the project but I 3iYBAGru-rQ-01663-00398454-00398678 think that you know from you know from 3iYBAGru-rQ-01664-00398679-00398873 sierra burns a lot of lessons and we're 3iYBAGru-rQ-01665-00398874-00399083 and foundations may be quite a bit more 3iYBAGru-rQ-01666-00399084-00399269 more sort of efficient and focus going 3iYBAGru-rQ-01667-00399270-00399953 forward um in terms of yeah i mean from 3iYBAGru-rQ-01668-00399954-00400223 a technical standpoint and going back to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01669-00400224-00400508 this multi-client issue i think ian once 3iYBAGru-rQ-01670-00400509-00400673 again opinions differ but the approach 3iYBAGru-rQ-01671-00400674-00400907 that i would have preferred go is to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01672-00400908-00401198 have maybe stick to two clients and have 3iYBAGru-rQ-01673-00401199-00401426 one clients not even bother with 3iYBAGru-rQ-01674-00401427-00401591 networking and just sort of interpret 3iYBAGru-rQ-01675-00401592-00401777 the block chain at least right up until 3iYBAGru-rQ-01676-00401778-00402011 maybe two months before launch and only 3iYBAGru-rQ-01677-00402012-00402146 at the sort of two months before launch 3iYBAGru-rQ-01678-00402147-00402296 public points actually sort of start 3iYBAGru-rQ-01679-00402297-00402491 bringing the networking up add to it to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01680-00402492-00402818 consensus with each other um proof of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01681-00402819-00402971 work I think we personally think we 3iYBAGru-rQ-01682-00402972-00403094 should have just stuck with Shari 3iYBAGru-rQ-01683-00403095-00403319 because s quo has a secret system work 3iYBAGru-rQ-01684-00403320-00403598 algorithm is it's the end you know as 3iYBAGru-rQ-01685-00403599-00403811 much as it's so I think it's nice that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01686-00403812-00404120 we have it now we the time that we lost 3iYBAGru-rQ-01687-00404121-00404270 I don't think it's worth it especially 3iYBAGru-rQ-01688-00404271-00404444 given that group of work is only going 3iYBAGru-rQ-01689-00404445-00404681 to exist for about a year so you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-01690-00404682-00404840 knowing what I know now I would have 3iYBAGru-rQ-01691-00404841-00404981 just sort of stuck with Shah three for 3iYBAGru-rQ-01692-00404982-00405113 the proof of work in what straits a pro 3iYBAGru-rQ-01693-00405114-00405707 steak after that um there are a few 3iYBAGru-rQ-01694-00405708-00405866 other protocol changes that were kind of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01695-00405867-00406301 like that as well boom and these these 3iYBAGru-rQ-01696-00406302-00406508 are a lot of things there's another 3iYBAGru-rQ-01697-00406509-00406868 topic we briefly want to come to so if 3iYBAGru-rQ-01698-00406869-00407114 you of course you guys are using this 3iYBAGru-rQ-01699-00407115-00407288 notion now or this term of a world 3iYBAGru-rQ-01700-00407289-00407507 computer which i really like I think 3iYBAGru-rQ-01701-00407508-00407989 it's a good metaphor and one of the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01702-00407990-00408203 characteristics of features of such a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01703-00408204-00408377 world computers that it's enormously 3iYBAGru-rQ-01704-00408378-00408632 powerful no one could assuming 3iYBAGru-rQ-01705-00408633-00408782 everything works well you know what to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01706-00408783-00409227 do great pazzos and let soulless azure 3iYBAGru-rQ-01707-00409228-00409464 right now this is the world smartphone 3iYBAGru-rQ-01708-00409465-00409680 computer yeah and two or three years 3iYBAGru-rQ-01709-00409681-00409824 when we have scalability it's going to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01710-00409825-00409962 be the world super bright and right now 3iYBAGru-rQ-01711-00409963-00410153 it's a very very shaky sort of world 3iYBAGru-rQ-01712-00410154-00410372 computed that can do any transactions 3iYBAGru-rQ-01713-00410374-00410730 but you know presumably assuming you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01714-00410731-00410918 know it works out there we can be very 3iYBAGru-rQ-01715-00410920-00411093 powerful right and of course people will 3iYBAGru-rQ-01716-00411093-00411452 do many great things with it but also a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01717-00411453-00411864 bad things with it so how do you feel 3iYBAGru-rQ-01718-00411864-00411999 about that it's not something you worry 3iYBAGru-rQ-01719-00412000-00412491 about I bad things yeah I mean people 3iYBAGru-rQ-01720-00412492-00412755 are it's definitely going to happen you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01721-00412756-00412984 know this point we kind of don't really 3iYBAGru-rQ-01722-00412985-00413187 don't really know what's good what's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01723-00413188-00413334 going to happen to some degree just 3iYBAGru-rQ-01724-00413335-00413614 because it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01725-00413614-00413914 it is not even one yet we haven't even 3iYBAGru-rQ-01726-00413914-00414145 so we have even seen any activities in 3iYBAGru-rQ-01727-00414146-00414339 the sort of community like I've seen 3iYBAGru-rQ-01728-00414340-00414616 absolutely no nobody even suggest the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01729-00414617-00415218 idea of you know even I mean even even 3iYBAGru-rQ-01730-00415219-00415339 something that's sort of on the collar 3iYBAGru-rQ-01731-00415339-00415534 sort of borderline controversial like so 3iYBAGru-rQ-01732-00415535-00415813 Croton atheria like no one's even even 3iYBAGru-rQ-01733-00415814-00416164 brought that up and that's a and that's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01734-00416164-00416343 kind of I think from a sort of PR 3iYBAGru-rQ-01735-00416344-00416470 standpoint that's definitely a positive 3iYBAGru-rQ-01736-00416471-00416941 side um yeah I mean I think more talking 3iYBAGru-rQ-01737-00416942-00417135 also the long-term right then recently I 3iYBAGru-rQ-01738-00417137-00417397 in the long term definitely I mean I 3iYBAGru-rQ-01739-00417397-00417543 think if you think about it's sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01740-00417544-00417757 inevitable like any you can't you can't 3iYBAGru-rQ-01741-00417758-00417993 blame the software you know you can 3iYBAGru-rQ-01742-00417994-00418218 definitely do harm with C++ or Linux or 3iYBAGru-rQ-01743-00418219-00418453 any type of software operating system 3iYBAGru-rQ-01744-00418454-00418734 what have you but there is potential 3iYBAGru-rQ-01745-00418735-00418945 there because it is quite game-changing 3iYBAGru-rQ-01746-00418946-00419064 since there's no central point of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01747-00419065-00419280 failure etc like if we look at this on a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01748-00419281-00419560 more high level oh like recently this is 3iYBAGru-rQ-01749-00419560-00419953 sort of a topical because recently 3iYBAGru-rQ-01750-00419954-00420166 Stephen Hawking's Elon Musk I think 3iYBAGru-rQ-01751-00420167-00420435 Steve Wozniak wrote this open letter 3iYBAGru-rQ-01752-00420435-00420655 calling for the band of autonomous 3iYBAGru-rQ-01753-00420656-00421041 weapons is you know in the context of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01754-00421042-00421341 etherium is is this something that you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01755-00421342-00421533 can see is potentially in the future 3iYBAGru-rQ-01756-00421534-00421933 empowering really really bad technology 3iYBAGru-rQ-01757-00421934-00422335 or harmful technology for Humanity um I 3iYBAGru-rQ-01758-00422335-00422575 mean if a cerium gets anywhere that I'm 3iYBAGru-rQ-01759-00422576-00422789 sure it'll end up end up powering really 3iYBAGru-rQ-01760-00422790-00423049 bad technology just because you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-01761-00423050-00423301 things that get really big or gonna 3iYBAGru-rQ-01762-00423302-00423445 always end up having some good and some 3iYBAGru-rQ-01763-00423446-00423768 bad in them it's me not to give the sort 3iYBAGru-rQ-01764-00423769-00423916 of core lucretili shades the other 3iYBAGru-rQ-01765-00423917-00424072 response but it's just like the Internet 3iYBAGru-rQ-01766-00424072-00424510 in that sense um and what's your view in 3iYBAGru-rQ-01767-00424510-00424756 this context just on AI in general like 3iYBAGru-rQ-01768-00424757-00424935 strong is so it's just something you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01769-00424937-00425179 think about oai is definitely a problem 3iYBAGru-rQ-01770-00425180-00425422 I mean to some degree its orthogonal to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01771-00425422-00425581 the watch an issue just because you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-01772-00425582-00425718 it's here we don't even have service 3iYBAGru-rQ-01773-00425719-00426076 anything close to smart AI yet but it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01774-00426077-00426502 a I mean this is a sort of idea that at 3iYBAGru-rQ-01775-00426503-00426709 some point when AI becomes slightly more 3iYBAGru-rQ-01776-00426710-00426847 intelligent than humans is going to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01777-00426847-00426960 become really good at all to my 3iYBAGru-rQ-01778-00426960-00427080 itself when we come even more 3iYBAGru-rQ-01779-00427081-00427182 intelligent even more and more 3iYBAGru-rQ-01780-00427183-00427368 intelligent become and become this sort 3iYBAGru-rQ-01781-00427368-00427547 of singularity thing that you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-01782-00427548-00427685 depending on it whether or not we 3iYBAGru-rQ-01783-00427686-00427841 program it well is either going to make 3iYBAGru-rQ-01784-00427842-00428025 our life's really really nice or it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01785-00428026-00428205 just going to fill the universal 3iYBAGru-rQ-01786-00428206-00428491 paperclips and choke everyone that's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01787-00428492-00428679 yeah that's definitely that's definitely 3iYBAGru-rQ-01788-00428680-00428859 a concern I definitely applaud everyone 3iYBAGru-rQ-01789-00428860-00429018 who's so working on solving that problem 3iYBAGru-rQ-01790-00429018-00429276 to what extent that ties together with 3iYBAGru-rQ-01791-00429277-00429566 the what worth watching issues I'm not 3iYBAGru-rQ-01792-00429567-00429885 sure because I mean the thing is it's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01793-00429885-00429995 almost a sort of completely different 3iYBAGru-rQ-01794-00429996-00430254 category of stuff like the sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01795-00430255-00430443 decentralized technology as they enable 3iYBAGru-rQ-01796-00430443-00430584 all these sort of applications that are 3iYBAGru-rQ-01797-00430585-00430864 unstoppable and that sort of allow 3iYBAGru-rQ-01798-00430865-00431114 people to create these kind of complex 3iYBAGru-rQ-01799-00431115-00431295 patterns of interaction that cannot be 3iYBAGru-rQ-01800-00431296-00431639 prevented and you know yesterday are 3iYBAGru-rQ-01801-00431640-00431760 sort of these patterns of interaction 3iYBAGru-rQ-01802-00431760-00432177 that are going to going to end up 3iYBAGru-rQ-01803-00432178-00432414 leading to bad things but ultimately you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01804-00432414-00432545 know at the bottom of it all it's notes 3iYBAGru-rQ-01805-00432546-00432714 humans doing things doing things with 3iYBAGru-rQ-01806-00432714-00433197 humans to humans so it's just sayin to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01807-00433197-00433347 some degree a bit more mundane in that 3iYBAGru-rQ-01808-00433347-00433779 sense so where do you see your role in 3iYBAGru-rQ-01809-00433780-00433997 athyrium going forward I know you don't 3iYBAGru-rQ-01810-00433998-00434189 plan very far ahead but it is something 3iYBAGru-rQ-01811-00434190-00434339 that you see me work you see yourself 3iYBAGru-rQ-01812-00434340-00434712 working on for you know much moneys or 3iYBAGru-rQ-01813-00434713-00434934 10 years or their other areas you're 3iYBAGru-rQ-01814-00434935-00435129 interesting if the equals if the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01815-00435130-00435341 etherium ecosystem kitchen yeah you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-01816-00435342-00435726 it continues being you being a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01817-00435727-00435935 certifiable the Bible growing thing 3iYBAGru-rQ-01818-00435936-00436137 which you know all indications point out 3iYBAGru-rQ-01819-00436138-00436389 that error that i really ask then I'm 3iYBAGru-rQ-01820-00436389-00436527 definitely I'm definitely going to be an 3iYBAGru-rQ-01821-00436528-00436820 ecosystem for quite a long time in the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01822-00436821-00437018 ecosystem in what capacity I'm not sure 3iYBAGru-rQ-01823-00437019-00437184 yet I mean that's something I have to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01824-00437185-00437602 decide for myself 3iYBAGru-rQ-01825-00437603-00437938 and are there any other areas maybe not 3iYBAGru-rQ-01826-00437939-00438163 directly related to decentralize 3iYBAGru-rQ-01827-00438164-00438318 technologies that you're interested in a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01828-00438320-00438666 place to see yourself going towards 3iYBAGru-rQ-01829-00438667-00439293 um-hmm I in cryptography economics all 3iYBAGru-rQ-01830-00439295-00439609 this sort of i mean this whole sort of 3iYBAGru-rQ-01831-00439610-00439989 rational west community is always sort 3iYBAGru-rQ-01832-00439991-00440227 of interesting and worth following at 3iYBAGru-rQ-01833-00440228-00440563 this point you know yeah i'm gonna 3iYBAGru-rQ-01834-00440564-00440725 follow a bunch of different things but 3iYBAGru-rQ-01835-00440726-00440917 you know as I've SAT i don't really 3iYBAGru-rQ-01836-00440918-00441321 point it plain too far ahead okay well 3iYBAGru-rQ-01837-00441322-00441538 this has been a really interesting 3iYBAGru-rQ-01838-00441539-00441850 conversation um i want i want to say 3iYBAGru-rQ-01839-00441851-00442156 that i installed the the client and i 3iYBAGru-rQ-01840-00442157-00442627 encourage anybody who wants to you know 3iYBAGru-rQ-01841-00442628-00442797 get their hands dirty and give it a try 3iYBAGru-rQ-01842-00442799-00443043 to go to etherion calm and install gift 3iYBAGru-rQ-01843-00443045-00443322 um alien or guy I'm sorry it provides a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01844-00443324-00443643 clear and calm and certainly someone 3iYBAGru-rQ-01845-00443645-00443758 who's trying to make a lot of money in 3iYBAGru-rQ-01846-00443759-00444103 the main reselling and so what one thing 3iYBAGru-rQ-01847-00444104-00444328 that you need to know is when you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01848-00444329-00444484 install the client you know you have I 3iYBAGru-rQ-01849-00444485-00444685 did it on Mac it's it's quite simple to 3iYBAGru-rQ-01850-00444685-00444960 do but you know you do have to have 3iYBAGru-rQ-01851-00444962-00445225 either Mac or PC or Linux to do it and 3iYBAGru-rQ-01852-00445226-00445558 ya know freebsd installations yet what's 3iYBAGru-rQ-01853-00445559-00445834 that no freebsd installations yeah like 3iYBAGru-rQ-01854-00445835-00446122 fake yeah and you have to generate the 3iYBAGru-rQ-01855-00446122-00446467 Genesis block and then you can launch a 3iYBAGru-rQ-01856-00446468-00446739 node and start mining etc and a few days 3iYBAGru-rQ-01857-00446741-00447004 hopefully start writing contracts mmhmm 3iYBAGru-rQ-01858-00447005-00447343 yeah so 3iYBAGru-rQ-01859-00447343-00447556 Thank too much for coming on I think 3iYBAGru-rQ-01860-00447557-00447718 it's it's super exciting that if you 3iYBAGru-rQ-01861-00447718-00447988 spaniel launch and hopefully we can 3iYBAGru-rQ-01862-00447989-00448228 revisit the topic in you know a few 3iYBAGru-rQ-01863-00448229-00448591 months six months or so when will 3iYBAGru-rQ-01864-00448592-00448797 actually some application T 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[Music] 47kiHgBFwq4-00001-00000950-00001286 it chugs across northern India clocking 47kiHgBFwq4-00002-00001287-00001595 plenty of miles of course but more 47kiHgBFwq4-00003-00001596-00001876 significantly this train transports 47kiHgBFwq4-00004-00001877-00002564 tourists through time even before guests 47kiHgBFwq4-00005-00002565-00002743 step on board there's plenty of 47kiHgBFwq4-00006-00002744-00003062 pageantry to set the tone here we met 47kiHgBFwq4-00007-00003063-00003256 the Campbell family from Baltimore 47kiHgBFwq4-00008-00003257-00003515 starting their week-long holiday on this 47kiHgBFwq4-00009-00003515-00003860 train called Maharaja's Express what 47kiHgBFwq4-00010-00003861-00004036 particularly enamored with the idea of 47kiHgBFwq4-00011-00004037-00004841 the Maharajah's why's the Maharajah's 47kiHgBFwq4-00012-00004842-00005077 you likely recall controlled parts of 47kiHgBFwq4-00013-00005078-00005318 India during the 19th and first half of 47kiHgBFwq4-00014-00005319-00005702 the 20th centuries they were flamboyant 47kiHgBFwq4-00015-00005703-00005881 rulers to say the least 47kiHgBFwq4-00016-00005882-00006206 in their apparel in their palaces in 47kiHgBFwq4-00017-00006207-00006491 everything the intention was to show 47kiHgBFwq4-00018-00006492-00006755 people that they were different and that 47kiHgBFwq4-00019-00006756-00006973 they were rulers and that was why they 47kiHgBFwq4-00020-00006975-00007166 were different it was about show but it 47kiHgBFwq4-00021-00007167-00007628 was about maintaining power sir mark 47kiHgBFwq4-00022-00007629-00007906 Tully journalist and train enthusiast 47kiHgBFwq4-00023-00007908-00008213 explains Maharaja's were empowered by 47kiHgBFwq4-00024-00008214-00008513 British colonists to help control parts 47kiHgBFwq4-00025-00008514-00008821 of India it was a time when the British 47kiHgBFwq4-00026-00008822-00009044 were building railroads across the 47kiHgBFwq4-00027-00009045-00009314 subcontinent and trains were considered 47kiHgBFwq4-00028-00009315-00009608 a sign of modernity and wealth the 47kiHgBFwq4-00029-00009609-00009824 railways were very important to 47kiHgBFwq4-00030-00009825-00010006 Maharaja's because they were prestigious 47kiHgBFwq4-00031-00010007-00010324 things and if you look at the trains 47kiHgBFwq4-00032-00010325-00010541 you can see that they were specially 47kiHgBFwq4-00033-00010542-00010931 very obviously blatantly luxurious so 47kiHgBFwq4-00034-00010932-00011153 they would impress anyone who saw them 47kiHgBFwq4-00035-00011154-00011405 ashley campbell was certainly impressed 47kiHgBFwq4-00036-00011406-00011660 with this modern-day remake as her 47kiHgBFwq4-00037-00011661-00012099 family stepped into their staterooms 47kiHgBFwq4-00038-00012100-00012398 Maharaja's Express is the result of a 47kiHgBFwq4-00039-00012399-00012631 public-private partnership designed to 47kiHgBFwq4-00040-00012632-00013001 boost tourism up to 23 coaches can fit 47kiHgBFwq4-00041-00013002-00013261 as many as eighty eight passengers it's 47kiHgBFwq4-00042-00013262-00013388 complete with a booty 47kiHgBFwq4-00043-00013388-00013808 bars and to restaurants the Train 47kiHgBFwq4-00044-00013809-00014047 generally travels at night this 47kiHgBFwq4-00045-00014049-00014297 seven-day trip took tourists from Delhi 47kiHgBFwq4-00046-00014297-00014728 to Jaipur to Agra home of the Taj Mahal 47kiHgBFwq4-00047-00014729-00015047 then unto other stops in North India 47kiHgBFwq4-00048-00015047-00015436 including Varanasi and back to Delhi a 47kiHgBFwq4-00049-00015437-00015737 week of eating and sleeping on a train 47kiHgBFwq4-00050-00015738-00016022 means this place is a key part of the 47kiHgBFwq4-00051-00016022-00016316 equation that John Stone has been the 47kiHgBFwq4-00052-00016316-00016607 onboard chef here for three years the 47kiHgBFwq4-00053-00016608-00016748 pepper which we are using is very 47kiHgBFwq4-00054-00016749-00017117 similar to paprika it only gives out the 47kiHgBFwq4-00055-00017118-00017504 color and not the heat he whips up 47kiHgBFwq4-00056-00017505-00017816 Western and Indian food from this moving 47kiHgBFwq4-00057-00017817-00018227 kitchen size of well a train car he 47kiHgBFwq4-00058-00018228-00018522 seems utterly unfazed by the whole thing 47kiHgBFwq4-00059-00018523-00018824 that stone visits each and every table 47kiHgBFwq4-00060-00018825-00019082 and prides himself on accommodating any 47kiHgBFwq4-00061-00019083-00019460 request we sat down together in a dining 47kiHgBFwq4-00062-00019461-00019709 room with a whimsical peacock theme he 47kiHgBFwq4-00063-00019710-00020000 explained the meaning of Maharaja maja 47kiHgBFwq4-00064-00020001-00020468 means big and Raja means king when you 47kiHgBFwq4-00065-00020469-00020714 combine both the words it becomes a big 47kiHgBFwq4-00066-00020715-00020960 king that means a king who's superior to 47kiHgBFwq4-00067-00020961-00021239 all the other kings stone is quite sure 47kiHgBFwq4-00068-00021240-00021524 this train and his cooking lives up to 47kiHgBFwq4-00069-00021525-00021812 such an a you for him working here was 47kiHgBFwq4-00070-00021813-00022097 well a process of elimination I looked 47kiHgBFwq4-00071-00022098-00022292 on the cruise lines I vote for a seven 47kiHgBFwq4-00072-00022293-00022550 star a five star I will for palaces and 47kiHgBFwq4-00073-00022551-00022727 resorts I've done outdoor gatherings 47kiHgBFwq4-00074-00022728-00022958 I've done camp gay drinks I've done air 47kiHgBFwq4-00075-00022959-00023228 catering the only catering left for me 47kiHgBFwq4-00076-00023229-00023786 was drinking and I grabbed it it was 47kiHgBFwq4-00077-00023787-00023942 also something different for the 47kiHgBFwq4-00078-00023943-00024161 Campbells who travelled around the world 47kiHgBFwq4-00079-00024162-00024413 as a family but never quite like this 47kiHgBFwq4-00080-00024414-00024628 says calling from whatever I think we 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anyone 47kiHgBFwq4-00108-00032556-00032987 else your typical Indian train 47kiHgBFwq4-00109-00032988-00033245 experience looks a little more like this 47kiHgBFwq4-00110-00033246-00033560 the passengers crammed into old cars 47kiHgBFwq4-00111-00033561-00033907 it's not exactly luxurious misery 47kiHgBFwq4-00112-00033908-00034171 suffered James Campbell admitted to 47kiHgBFwq4-00113-00034172-00034394 feeling a little guilt seeing India's 47kiHgBFwq4-00114-00034395-00034676 poverty passed by the train window but 47kiHgBFwq4-00115-00034677-00034915 remarked the Maharajah's provided such 47kiHgBFwq4-00116-00034916-00035156 color to history there were some 47kiHgBFwq4-00117-00035157-00035363 extravagant over-the-top things that 47kiHgBFwq4-00118-00035364-00035537 these Maharaja is there 47kiHgBFwq4-00119-00035538-00035795 not too many years ago one thing that we 47kiHgBFwq4-00120-00035796-00036047 read that really stuck with us they 47kiHgBFwq4-00121-00036048-00036317 certainly made this a 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Mountain you're going to find 4qfMWMMsTEE-00003-00001200-00001595 out exactly how God feels about you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00004-00001596-00001907 we're also going to have some inspiring 4qfMWMMsTEE-00005-00001907-00002249 music we're going to take Holy Communion 4qfMWMMsTEE-00006-00002250-00002441 together and then we're going to pray 4qfMWMMsTEE-00007-00002442-00002818 over all of your prayer requests so you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00008-00002819-00003142 don't want to miss today's program 4qfMWMMsTEE-00009-00003143-00003299 why 4qfMWMMsTEE-00010-00003300-00003454 what a friend we 4qfMWMMsTEE-00011-00003455-00003990 we hang Jesus 4qfMWMMsTEE-00012-00003992-00004747 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00013-00004748-00005220 you carry 4qfMWMMsTEE-00014-00005221-00005795 Everything To God In Praise 4qfMWMMsTEE-00015-00005796-00006167 oh welcome everyone and thank you so 4qfMWMMsTEE-00016-00006168-00006628 much for joining us today I believe you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00017-00006629-00006989 are in for just an inspiring time as we 4qfMWMMsTEE-00018-00006990-00007378 get into the Lord's presence today I'm 4qfMWMMsTEE-00019-00007379-00007696 Pastor Gary here with Pastor Myra Pastor 4qfMWMMsTEE-00020-00007697-00008027 John and Pastor Rebecca and it is great 4qfMWMMsTEE-00021-00008028-00008267 to be together isn't it it is and we are 4qfMWMMsTEE-00022-00008268-00008507 so glad that you are here with us today 4qfMWMMsTEE-00023-00008508-00008681 we are looking forward to what God is 4qfMWMMsTEE-00024-00008682-00008885 going to do amongst us how he's going to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00025-00008886-00009046 move I love there's always that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00026-00009047-00009203 unexpected because we're not pre-script 4qfMWMMsTEE-00027-00009204-00009389 we don't know what we're going to talk 4qfMWMMsTEE-00028-00009390-00009617 about here but we do know that the holy 4qfMWMMsTEE-00029-00009618-00009814 spirit is here and when he's here some 4qfMWMMsTEE-00030-00009815-00010060 great things will happen so get prepared 4qfMWMMsTEE-00031-00010061-00010378 today yes yes yes and you know if I'm 4qfMWMMsTEE-00032-00010379-00010642 not mistaken it's two or three are 4qfMWMMsTEE-00033-00010643-00010835 gathered we've we've exceeded that we've 4qfMWMMsTEE-00034-00010836-00011195 got four we've got four today and so 4qfMWMMsTEE-00035-00011196-00011560 whatever need you have what whatever is 4qfMWMMsTEE-00036-00011561-00011860 on your heart even as pastor very you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00037-00011861-00012035 know teased at the beginning of the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00038-00012036-00012299 program what you're thinking God thinks 4qfMWMMsTEE-00039-00012300-00012437 about you I'm believing that there's 4qfMWMMsTEE-00040-00012438-00012646 going to be an amazing breakthrough in 4qfMWMMsTEE-00041-00012647-00012874 your life and so I just can't wait yeah 4qfMWMMsTEE-00042-00012875-00013186 expect God to do it today in your life 4qfMWMMsTEE-00043-00013187-00013625 expect him to move on your behalf 4qfMWMMsTEE-00044-00013626-00013853 because of his 4qfMWMMsTEE-00045-00013854-00014135 Spirit his presence Among Us I'm excited 4qfMWMMsTEE-00046-00014136-00014411 about that amen well remember we do have 4qfMWMMsTEE-00047-00014412-00014651 prayer Partners available they are 4qfMWMMsTEE-00048-00014652-00015030 waiting to pray for you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00049-00015031-00015293 888-665-4483 if anything is on your 4qfMWMMsTEE-00050-00015294-00015497 heart or if there's anything we're going 4qfMWMMsTEE-00051-00015497-00015827 to discuss today call that number 4qfMWMMsTEE-00052-00015828-00016127 someone will agree with you in prayer 4qfMWMMsTEE-00053-00016128-00016427 and then remember get your communion 4qfMWMMsTEE-00054-00016428-00016619 elements a cracker 4qfMWMMsTEE-00055-00016620-00017021 a piece of bread some juice in a cup so 4qfMWMMsTEE-00056-00017022-00017333 that when we partake together at the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00057-00017334-00017621 Lord's table you can join in you don't 4qfMWMMsTEE-00058-00017622-00017885 want to miss that well one of my 4qfMWMMsTEE-00059-00017886-00018239 favorite Psalms I love this Psalm psalm 4qfMWMMsTEE-00060-00018240-00018667 16 starting there in verse 1 says 4qfMWMMsTEE-00061-00018668-00019289 preserve Me O God for in you I put my 4qfMWMMsTEE-00062-00019290-00019721 trust O my soul you have said to the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00063-00019722-00019836 Lord 4qfMWMMsTEE-00064-00019837-00020507 you are my goodness and it is nothing 4qfMWMMsTEE-00065-00020508-00021053 apart from you and as for the Saints who 4qfMWMMsTEE-00066-00021054-00021199 are on the earth 4qfMWMMsTEE-00067-00021200-00021727 they are the excellent ones in whom is 4qfMWMMsTEE-00068-00021728-00021994 all my delight 4qfMWMMsTEE-00069-00021995-00022205 now I have a pretty strong feeling 4qfMWMMsTEE-00070-00022206-00022493 there's a lot of Christians that don't 4qfMWMMsTEE-00071-00022494-00022907 know that God Delights in us as 4qfMWMMsTEE-00072-00022908-00023039 Christians 4qfMWMMsTEE-00073-00023040-00023417 that he thinks about us the way that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00074-00023418-00023675 verse describes it and I just want to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00075-00023676-00023957 say to you today if you've got some 4qfMWMMsTEE-00076-00023958-00024299 wrong images some false images we were 4qfMWMMsTEE-00077-00024300-00024611 talking about how sometimes our we get 4qfMWMMsTEE-00078-00024612-00024917 our our image of our heavenly father 4qfMWMMsTEE-00079-00024918-00025217 from our Earthly father or from how 4qfMWMMsTEE-00080-00025218-00025541 other people have treated us but I want 4qfMWMMsTEE-00081-00025542-00025878 you to know you need to see yourself 4qfMWMMsTEE-00082-00025879-00026302 like the Lord sees you and number one 4qfMWMMsTEE-00083-00026304-00026590 the first point you need to get this the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00084-00026591-00027083 Lord he Delights in you yeah I think 4qfMWMMsTEE-00085-00027083-00027352 Pastor Gary that a lot of times we as 4qfMWMMsTEE-00086-00027354-00027695 Believers because we don't esteem 4qfMWMMsTEE-00087-00027695-00027893 ourselves like we should and we should 4qfMWMMsTEE-00088-00027894-00028277 because even Jesus said in Matthew 22 he 4qfMWMMsTEE-00089-00028277-00028589 said love your neighbor how as you do 4qfMWMMsTEE-00090-00028589-00028924 yours itself good that's good as you do 4qfMWMMsTEE-00091-00028925-00029189 yourself so we have to change our 4qfMWMMsTEE-00092-00029189-00029417 perspective we have to change how we 4qfMWMMsTEE-00093-00029418-00029687 look at God how we look at ourselves how 4qfMWMMsTEE-00094-00029688-00029873 we look at other believers I thought 4qfMWMMsTEE-00095-00029874-00030335 about an old old poem it said uh to live 4qfMWMMsTEE-00096-00030336-00030605 above with Saints we love oh it will be 4qfMWMMsTEE-00097-00030606-00030874 glory to live beloved with Saints we 4qfMWMMsTEE-00098-00030875-00031240 know it's quite a different story 4qfMWMMsTEE-00099-00031241-00031655 but if we Delight in as God Delights in 4qfMWMMsTEE-00100-00031656-00031974 us we Delight in one another 4qfMWMMsTEE-00101-00031975-00032231 understanding we Delight in you you're 4qfMWMMsTEE-00102-00032232-00032639 watching today we Delight in you that we 4qfMWMMsTEE-00103-00032639-00032915 are in this together and God has put 4qfMWMMsTEE-00104-00032916-00033112 worth on us he gave his only begotten 4qfMWMMsTEE-00105-00033113-00033185 son 4qfMWMMsTEE-00106-00033186-00033502 putting worth on us the light in the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00107-00033503-00033790 Lord he Delights in you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00108-00033791-00034055 we have a good life yeah yeah and I 4qfMWMMsTEE-00109-00034056-00034174 think that's something that a lot of 4qfMWMMsTEE-00110-00034175-00034396 times I encounter a lot of people who 4qfMWMMsTEE-00111-00034397-00034696 have a have a faulty uh framework of who 4qfMWMMsTEE-00112-00034697-00034949 God is uh not just from the perspective 4qfMWMMsTEE-00113-00034950-00035146 of I love how you said that Pastor Gary 4qfMWMMsTEE-00114-00035147-00035423 because a lot of people we do see God 4qfMWMMsTEE-00115-00035424-00035615 through the lens of our Earthly father 4qfMWMMsTEE-00116-00035616-00035873 or our Earthly circumstances but I also 4qfMWMMsTEE-00117-00035874-00036124 notice people too that think well God 4qfMWMMsTEE-00118-00036125-00036389 didn't do this for me or God let me down 4qfMWMMsTEE-00119-00036390-00036521 here and I love how you brought up 4qfMWMMsTEE-00120-00036522-00036767 Pastor Myra the fact that he has already 4qfMWMMsTEE-00121-00036768-00037157 paid the highest price for you that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00122-00037158-00037487 could be paid I remember a young man who 4qfMWMMsTEE-00123-00037488-00037727 attends our church came up to me one day 4qfMWMMsTEE-00124-00037728-00037990 and he he had grown up in Christianity 4qfMWMMsTEE-00125-00037991-00038165 and I had said something in the message 4qfMWMMsTEE-00126-00038166-00038368 the one time uh that that was 4qfMWMMsTEE-00127-00038369-00038596 essentially you are worth nothing less 4qfMWMMsTEE-00128-00038597-00038818 than the life of a king and he came up 4qfMWMMsTEE-00129-00038819-00038974 to me afterward and he said I'd never 4qfMWMMsTEE-00130-00038975-00039124 heard it put that way and that just 4qfMWMMsTEE-00131-00039125-00039346 struck me as so much because here's the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00132-00039347-00039562 thing when you understand the inherent 4qfMWMMsTEE-00133-00039563-00039899 value in a thing you will treat it in a 4qfMWMMsTEE-00134-00039900-00040096 way commiser it with that inherent value 4qfMWMMsTEE-00135-00040097-00040330 and and so if someone was to give you a 4qfMWMMsTEE-00136-00040331-00040583 Rolls-Royce or a Lamborghini you would 4qfMWMMsTEE-00137-00040584-00040840 never take that off-roading in the woods 4qfMWMMsTEE-00138-00040841-00041111 or driving it Through Rivers and and mud 4qfMWMMsTEE-00139-00041112-00041351 pows and smashing it through all the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00140-00041352-00041507 potholes here in the city of Pittsburgh 4qfMWMMsTEE-00141-00041508-00041795 if if you live here where we live and in 4qfMWMMsTEE-00142-00041796-00042077 the same way we do that with our own 4qfMWMMsTEE-00143-00042078-00042340 lives we don't understand the inherent 4qfMWMMsTEE-00144-00042341-00042587 value of the price that is paid for us 4qfMWMMsTEE-00145-00042588-00042833 through Jesus Christ and so we take and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00146-00042834-00043085 we allow certain things to happen to us 4qfMWMMsTEE-00147-00043086-00043349 or we we even run ourselves through the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00148-00043350-00043696 muck of sin and just living below the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00149-00043697-00043895 standard that we are called to as saints 4qfMWMMsTEE-00150-00043896-00044057 of God and that's why we need to be 4qfMWMMsTEE-00151-00044058-00044471 reminded God Delights in you his Delight 4qfMWMMsTEE-00152-00044472-00044861 is in you you make the father smile and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00153-00044862-00045017 some of you might be saying well how can 4qfMWMMsTEE-00154-00045018-00045245 I make the father smile look at the sin 4qfMWMMsTEE-00155-00045246-00045461 in my life look at all the areas where I 4qfMWMMsTEE-00156-00045462-00045677 failed him do you understand that Jesus 4qfMWMMsTEE-00157-00045678-00045952 took all of your failures all of your 4qfMWMMsTEE-00158-00045953-00046223 sins all of your deficiencies and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00159-00046224-00046517 allowed them to be nailed with him to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00160-00046518-00046811 the Cross so that his father's Delight 4qfMWMMsTEE-00161-00046812-00047068 could arise in you and Pastor Rebecca I 4qfMWMMsTEE-00162-00047069-00047308 think it's high time for people all 4qfMWMMsTEE-00163-00047309-00047518 across this land especially Believers 4qfMWMMsTEE-00164-00047519-00047765 those who are Saints but those who have 4qfMWMMsTEE-00165-00047766-00048155 not yet come to God to realize that the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00166-00048156-00048377 father's Delight is in them because of 4qfMWMMsTEE-00167-00048378-00048617 what the son has done on our behalf and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00168-00048618-00048767 I love how you brought that even about 4qfMWMMsTEE-00169-00048768-00048965 you know we're worth the value of our 4qfMWMMsTEE-00170-00048966-00049140 value is in the king you know because 4qfMWMMsTEE-00171-00049141-00049367 Jesus did that for us and I think that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00172-00049368-00049540 as Christians as Believers if we would 4qfMWMMsTEE-00173-00049541-00049787 begin to see that and visualize that and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00174-00049788-00050074 understand that what value we have in us 4qfMWMMsTEE-00175-00050075-00050243 we wouldn't make some of the decisions 4qfMWMMsTEE-00176-00050244-00050489 that we've made we wouldn't continue to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00177-00050490-00050621 make some of the bad choices that we 4qfMWMMsTEE-00178-00050622-00050818 make because we would see that God loves 4qfMWMMsTEE-00179-00050819-00051040 us so much he gave is everything so we 4qfMWMMsTEE-00180-00051041-00051232 should do that same thing and give him 4qfMWMMsTEE-00181-00051233-00051454 everything that we have everything that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00182-00051455-00051664 we desire all our dreams all our 4qfMWMMsTEE-00183-00051665-00051851 Ambitions we should line it up to God 4qfMWMMsTEE-00184-00051852-00052025 what do you want for me you gave me 4qfMWMMsTEE-00185-00052026-00052192 everything so the least that I could do 4qfMWMMsTEE-00186-00052194-00052499 is give you my life and as we do that as 4qfMWMMsTEE-00187-00052500-00052679 Christians as we do that as God's 4qfMWMMsTEE-00188-00052679-00052888 children he does take Delight in us 4qfMWMMsTEE-00189-00052889-00053099 because he's saying wow you are actually 4qfMWMMsTEE-00190-00053100-00053309 following me you're doing what I desire 4qfMWMMsTEE-00191-00053310-00053554 you to do and when we do that He blesses 4qfMWMMsTEE-00192-00053555-00053729 us when we have that walk of faith and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00193-00053729-00053969 we walk in the ways that God wants us to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00194-00053970-00054185 he doesn't have any other option but to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00195-00054186-00054376 bless us because he desires that he 4qfMWMMsTEE-00196-00054377-00054580 loves to bless his kids you know I even 4qfMWMMsTEE-00197-00054582-00054838 think about the very one who was writing 4qfMWMMsTEE-00198-00054839-00054965 the Psalms you know when you think of 4qfMWMMsTEE-00199-00054966-00055109 David and all the things that he had 4qfMWMMsTEE-00200-00055110-00055307 gone through in his life if anybody 4qfMWMMsTEE-00201-00055308-00055499 should stand there and say God I I don't 4qfMWMMsTEE-00202-00055500-00055721 deserve this I don't know why you would 4qfMWMMsTEE-00203-00055722-00055894 ever love me and he probably did felt 4qfMWMMsTEE-00204-00055895-00056080 that way feel that way but he also 4qfMWMMsTEE-00205-00056082-00056326 recognized who God was he was his 4qfMWMMsTEE-00206-00056327-00056513 protector he was the one who saved him 4qfMWMMsTEE-00207-00056514-00056711 from the pits of hell he saved it from 4qfMWMMsTEE-00208-00056712-00056861 every enemy that would come in his 4qfMWMMsTEE-00209-00056862-00057149 Direction he had a God who delighted in 4qfMWMMsTEE-00210-00057150-00057329 him just like you do so if you are 4qfMWMMsTEE-00211-00057329-00057503 struggling with something right now you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00212-00057504-00057682 give it over to God say Lord you see 4qfMWMMsTEE-00213-00057683-00057863 where the position that I am in right 4qfMWMMsTEE-00214-00057864-00058030 now and you know I don't want to be here 4qfMWMMsTEE-00215-00058032-00058163 you know I want to be where you want me 4qfMWMMsTEE-00216-00058164-00058391 to be help me to follow you help me to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00217-00058391-00058625 make the Right Moves to follow you in 4qfMWMMsTEE-00218-00058626-00058816 the way that I should so that you can 4qfMWMMsTEE-00219-00058817-00059044 once again take Delight in me so that I 4qfMWMMsTEE-00220-00059045-00059225 can make you proud that's what we should 4qfMWMMsTEE-00221-00059226-00059453 all desire as his children to make him 4qfMWMMsTEE-00222-00059454-00059711 proud we all know that scripture delight 4qfMWMMsTEE-00223-00059712-00059897 yourself in the Lord and he'll Grant you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00224-00059898-00060191 the desires of your heart but this says 4qfMWMMsTEE-00225-00060191-00060635 the Lord Delights himself in you think 4qfMWMMsTEE-00226-00060636-00060929 about that he Delights 4qfMWMMsTEE-00227-00060929-00061187 not because you've earned it not because 4qfMWMMsTEE-00228-00061188-00061385 you deserve it not because you've done 4qfMWMMsTEE-00229-00061386-00061816 anything he just loves spending time 4qfMWMMsTEE-00230-00061817-00062087 with you it's like a father who just 4qfMWMMsTEE-00231-00062088-00062429 loves when his children come they're not 4qfMWMMsTEE-00232-00062429-00062632 asking for anything they don't need 4qfMWMMsTEE-00233-00062633-00062849 anything they just want to hang with 4qfMWMMsTEE-00234-00062850-00062999 their daddy 4qfMWMMsTEE-00235-00063000-00063419 and you have a heavenly father who says 4qfMWMMsTEE-00236-00063420-00063809 you are his excellent one think about 4qfMWMMsTEE-00237-00063810-00064199 that you're his excellent one I think 4qfMWMMsTEE-00238-00064200-00064444 that just should just should just blow 4qfMWMMsTEE-00239-00064445-00064830 that stinking thinking out of your life 4qfMWMMsTEE-00240-00064832-00065153 and you are his excellent one because 4qfMWMMsTEE-00241-00065154-00065465 even when those failures do come up he's 4qfMWMMsTEE-00242-00065466-00065737 not looking at you he's looking at Jesus 4qfMWMMsTEE-00243-00065738-00066119 he is looking at his beloved Son and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00244-00066120-00066419 Romans 8 32 one of my favorite verses of 4qfMWMMsTEE-00245-00066420-00066611 scripture says and if he did not 4qfMWMMsTEE-00246-00066612-00066947 withhold Jesus from us 4qfMWMMsTEE-00247-00066948-00067271 how will he not also along with Jesus he 4qfMWMMsTEE-00248-00067272-00067469 already gave us his best but he will 4qfMWMMsTEE-00249-00067470-00067817 also give us graciously all things and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00250-00067818-00068015 so right now wherever you're sitting 4qfMWMMsTEE-00251-00068016-00068356 like Pastor Gary said let the Delight of 4qfMWMMsTEE-00252-00068357-00068735 God like a strong and mighty wind blow 4qfMWMMsTEE-00253-00068736-00068975 all of that stinking thinking away let 4qfMWMMsTEE-00254-00068976-00069203 it just blow all of those ideas of 4qfMWMMsTEE-00255-00069204-00069538 failure all of those ideas of lack all 4qfMWMMsTEE-00256-00069539-00069803 of those ideas of I'm not enough or I 4qfMWMMsTEE-00257-00069804-00070061 don't have enough look you already have 4qfMWMMsTEE-00258-00070062-00070337 if you have Jesus Christ you have every 4qfMWMMsTEE-00259-00070338-00070606 thing you need because the father's 4qfMWMMsTEE-00260-00070607-00071003 Delight is in Jesus and Jesus is in you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00261-00071004-00071237 and so I just encourage you let that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00262-00071238-00071579 resonate in your soul today and maybe 4qfMWMMsTEE-00263-00071580-00071741 even if you got to jump up and Skip 4qfMWMMsTEE-00264-00071742-00071897 around and have a little praise bake 4qfMWMMsTEE-00265-00071898-00072076 because you know what that's some good 4qfMWMMsTEE-00266-00072077-00072256 truth yeah 4qfMWMMsTEE-00267-00072257-00072515 and I like what you said we love our 4qfMWMMsTEE-00268-00072516-00073187 neighbors only as much 4qfMWMMsTEE-00269-00073188-00073397 as much loving the broken the hurting 4qfMWMMsTEE-00270-00073398-00073631 because they don't like themselves 4qfMWMMsTEE-00271-00073632-00073937 absolutely absolutely and I think about 4qfMWMMsTEE-00272-00073938-00074291 as as we were talking that or as you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00273-00074292-00074488 were saying or a little bit earlier a 4qfMWMMsTEE-00274-00074489-00075017 lot of times we will uh funnel our 4qfMWMMsTEE-00275-00075018-00075311 love the love God has for us through our 4qfMWMMsTEE-00276-00075312-00075521 Earthly fathers and there's somebody 4qfMWMMsTEE-00277-00075522-00075826 watching right now you didn't have a 4qfMWMMsTEE-00278-00075827-00076126 great father who 4qfMWMMsTEE-00279-00076127-00076444 uh loved you just right and so you have 4qfMWMMsTEE-00280-00076445-00076823 problems letting God love you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00281-00076824-00077141 and today God wants to heal you come on 4qfMWMMsTEE-00282-00077142-00077506 he wants you to forgive your father but 4qfMWMMsTEE-00283-00077507-00078065 also allow God to for to to heal the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00284-00078066-00078155 hurt 4qfMWMMsTEE-00285-00078156-00078359 they're not one in the same forgive them 4qfMWMMsTEE-00286-00078360-00078715 he owes you nothing but at the same time 4qfMWMMsTEE-00287-00078716-00079061 allow God to heal you and as you let him 4qfMWMMsTEE-00288-00079062-00079397 heal you the relationship we have with 4qfMWMMsTEE-00289-00079398-00079817 him gets richer and richer no matter 4qfMWMMsTEE-00290-00079818-00080056 what happens knowing that God loves you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00291-00080057-00080176 amen 4qfMWMMsTEE-00292-00080177-00080453 amen look at verse 8 and Psalm 16 it 4qfMWMMsTEE-00293-00080454-00080861 says I have set the lord always before 4qfMWMMsTEE-00294-00080862-00081131 me that's a great goal isn't it because 4qfMWMMsTEE-00295-00081132-00081611 he is at my right hand I shall not be 4qfMWMMsTEE-00296-00081612-00081712 moved 4qfMWMMsTEE-00297-00081713-00082037 there are so many times I just hold my 4qfMWMMsTEE-00298-00082038-00082276 right hand up as close to me as I can 4qfMWMMsTEE-00299-00082277-00082612 and I say Lord that's how close you are 4qfMWMMsTEE-00300-00082613-00082949 to me he's your he's my paracletos the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00301-00082950-00083356 one who comes alongside of me he's your 4qfMWMMsTEE-00302-00083357-00083656 helper to help you to walk you through 4qfMWMMsTEE-00303-00083657-00084215 life you are never ever ever alone or by 4qfMWMMsTEE-00304-00084216-00084521 yourself yes and point number two that's 4qfMWMMsTEE-00305-00084522-00084749 it he's as close to you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00306-00084750-00085000 as your right hand amen and Pastor great 4qfMWMMsTEE-00307-00085001-00085144 this is why the holy spirit is so 4qfMWMMsTEE-00308-00085145-00085331 important to us you know when you say 4qfMWMMsTEE-00309-00085332-00085523 he's as close to us he's our he's our 4qfMWMMsTEE-00310-00085524-00085685 helper he's our strength he's that one 4qfMWMMsTEE-00311-00085686-00085973 that we need whenever you call on Jesus 4qfMWMMsTEE-00312-00085974-00086194 the holy spirit is there with you if 4qfMWMMsTEE-00313-00086195-00086429 you've accepted Christ it says you've 4qfMWMMsTEE-00314-00086430-00086632 got that Holy Spirit but the power of 4qfMWMMsTEE-00315-00086633-00086782 the holy spirit is in you and you can 4qfMWMMsTEE-00316-00086783-00086975 you know that no matter what you are 4qfMWMMsTEE-00317-00086976-00087197 facing that his peace will rule your 4qfMWMMsTEE-00318-00087198-00087406 heart his strength he'll give you the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00319-00087407-00087538 strength when you feel weak in yourself 4qfMWMMsTEE-00320-00087539-00087791 he says my my grace is sufficient my 4qfMWMMsTEE-00321-00087792-00087994 strength is made perfect in your 4qfMWMMsTEE-00322-00087995-00088175 weakness so no matter what you are 4qfMWMMsTEE-00323-00088176-00088337 facing you may feel like God is far away 4qfMWMMsTEE-00324-00088338-00088588 but this verse says he is close he is 4qfMWMMsTEE-00325-00088589-00088793 close to us we just have to see him we 4qfMWMMsTEE-00326-00088794-00088949 just have to recognize that he is there 4qfMWMMsTEE-00327-00088950-00089153 and so many times we look at everything 4qfMWMMsTEE-00328-00089154-00089356 else going on in our lives that we push 4qfMWMMsTEE-00329-00089357-00089597 the vision of God out of our way and we 4qfMWMMsTEE-00330-00089598-00089753 don't see that he is there in the midst 4qfMWMMsTEE-00331-00089754-00089944 of the circumstance he is just as much 4qfMWMMsTEE-00332-00089945-00090155 there in your bad times in The Valleys 4qfMWMMsTEE-00333-00090156-00090341 as he is in the good times on the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00334-00090342-00090581 mountaintops he is just as much there in 4qfMWMMsTEE-00335-00090582-00090821 darkness as he is in light as he is in 4qfMWMMsTEE-00336-00090822-00091043 death as he is in life he is there with 4qfMWMMsTEE-00337-00091044-00091205 us at all times so no matter what you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00338-00091206-00091481 are facing today at this very moment he 4qfMWMMsTEE-00339-00091482-00091726 is with you he sees it he knows it you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00340-00091727-00091985 are not alone he sees everything you are 4qfMWMMsTEE-00341-00091986-00092176 facing every decision that you have to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00342-00092177-00092399 make every decision that maybe your 4qfMWMMsTEE-00343-00092400-00092561 family member has to make that is 4qfMWMMsTEE-00344-00092562-00092788 difficult for them he sees the trials 4qfMWMMsTEE-00345-00092789-00092926 that they're going through and all you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00346-00092927-00093112 got to do is call on him and he's right 4qfMWMMsTEE-00347-00093113-00093299 there to answer you that's awesome to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00348-00093300-00093491 know that we have a God who is not far 4qfMWMMsTEE-00349-00093492-00093791 off but he is right beside us every 4qfMWMMsTEE-00350-00093792-00094031 second of every day yeah yeah and I 4qfMWMMsTEE-00351-00094032-00094349 think as you put your hand up that right 4qfMWMMsTEE-00352-00094350-00094606 hand I think about 4qfMWMMsTEE-00353-00094607-00095129 how close God is to us he is the god of 4qfMWMMsTEE-00354-00095130-00095291 Hope 4qfMWMMsTEE-00355-00095292-00095453 there are those of you who right now 4qfMWMMsTEE-00356-00095454-00095747 you've been feeling hopeless in your 4qfMWMMsTEE-00357-00095748-00095999 situations and in your circumstances 4qfMWMMsTEE-00358-00096000-00096305 those things that you can't change but 4qfMWMMsTEE-00359-00096306-00096694 the god of Hope is at your right hand 4qfMWMMsTEE-00360-00096695-00096971 and it says that the god of Hope will 4qfMWMMsTEE-00361-00096972-00097618 cause hope to abound in you and we know 4qfMWMMsTEE-00362-00097619-00098038 that faith is the substance of what we 4qfMWMMsTEE-00363-00098039-00098518 hope for let God stir hope in you today 4qfMWMMsTEE-00364-00098519-00098856 let him because he's at your right hand 4qfMWMMsTEE-00365-00098857-00099256 waiting for you to just acknowledge Him 4qfMWMMsTEE-00366-00099257-00099575 he will do it for you amen and you know 4qfMWMMsTEE-00367-00099576-00099779 the crazy thing is even if you're trying 4qfMWMMsTEE-00368-00099780-00100144 to push God further away from you your 4qfMWMMsTEE-00369-00100145-00100385 right hand goes with you wherever you go 4qfMWMMsTEE-00370-00100386-00100709 and so even if you extend your right 4qfMWMMsTEE-00371-00100710-00101003 hand as far away from you as possible it 4qfMWMMsTEE-00372-00101004-00101153 just goes to show you God is never 4qfMWMMsTEE-00373-00101154-00101476 further than an arms distance away and I 4qfMWMMsTEE-00374-00101477-00101603 honestly believe you know because some 4qfMWMMsTEE-00375-00101604-00101729 of you are watching right now and you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00376-00101730-00101938 figure okay if God's with me why are all 4qfMWMMsTEE-00377-00101939-00102173 of these things just coming at me right 4qfMWMMsTEE-00378-00102174-00102335 now I want you to think about this in a 4qfMWMMsTEE-00379-00102336-00102563 natural if if you're sitting there 4qfMWMMsTEE-00380-00102564-00102742 you're whether you're at home you're 4qfMWMMsTEE-00381-00102743-00102899 you're in the nursing home you're in the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00382-00102900-00103036 hospital you're in prison you're you're 4qfMWMMsTEE-00383-00103038-00103228 watching this on a mobile device in your 4qfMWMMsTEE-00384-00103229-00103408 car at a bus stop wherever you're 4qfMWMMsTEE-00385-00103409-00103589 watching this right now if something 4qfMWMMsTEE-00386-00103590-00103816 flew at you out of the blue 4qfMWMMsTEE-00387-00103817-00104086 without even thinking you're going to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00388-00104088-00104386 throw your hands up to protect you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00389-00104388-00104644 sometimes God will allow things to come 4qfMWMMsTEE-00390-00104645-00104857 at you because he wants to see you how 4qfMWMMsTEE-00391-00104858-00105149 involuntarily it is for him to come up 4qfMWMMsTEE-00392-00105150-00105377 and block that thing from getting to you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00393-00105378-00105586 and so remember that when you're 4qfMWMMsTEE-00394-00105588-00105725 thinking about your right hand when 4qfMWMMsTEE-00395-00105726-00106013 you're thinking about how near God is to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00396-00106014-00106193 you you may think he's far away but he's 4qfMWMMsTEE-00397-00106194-00106378 never more than an arm's distance but he 4qfMWMMsTEE-00398-00106379-00106649 is always ready to jump up and protect 4qfMWMMsTEE-00399-00106650-00106960 you to jump up and guard you and give 4qfMWMMsTEE-00400-00106961-00107266 you the strength that you need that's 4qfMWMMsTEE-00401-00107267-00107428 that's one of the significant things in 4qfMWMMsTEE-00402-00107429-00107573 the scripture about the right hand it is 4qfMWMMsTEE-00403-00107574-00107866 the position of strength God is seated 4qfMWMMsTEE-00404-00107867-00108178 at a position of strength in your life 4qfMWMMsTEE-00405-00108179-00108497 that's why David was able to say I will 4qfMWMMsTEE-00406-00108498-00108683 not be moved so whatever you're facing 4qfMWMMsTEE-00407-00108683-00108947 whatever is coming at you know that God 4qfMWMMsTEE-00408-00108948-00109240 is at your right hand and continue to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00409-00109241-00109673 keep the lord always and in all ways 4qfMWMMsTEE-00410-00109674-00109997 before you because he will protect you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00411-00109998-00110260 from whatever's coming your way 4qfMWMMsTEE-00412-00110261-00110471 there's there's someone watching you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00413-00110472-00110843 were abandoned by your natural father 4qfMWMMsTEE-00414-00110844-00111136 and because of that you you are really 4qfMWMMsTEE-00415-00111138-00111490 struggling believing that God is that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00416-00111491-00111739 near to you that God loves you and and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00417-00111740-00112127 delights in you and and I just want you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00418-00112128-00112336 to call that prayer partner because I 4qfMWMMsTEE-00419-00112338-00112439 believe 4qfMWMMsTEE-00420-00112440-00112715 Pastor Myers said there's a deep healing 4qfMWMMsTEE-00421-00112716-00113015 that God has to do in your life going 4qfMWMMsTEE-00422-00113016-00113327 all the way back to your childhood 4qfMWMMsTEE-00423-00113328-00113665 just breaking off of you generational 4qfMWMMsTEE-00424-00113666-00114054 curses we break that Spirit of 4qfMWMMsTEE-00425-00114055-00114436 Abandonment off of you today 4qfMWMMsTEE-00426-00114438-00114736 and I just want you to just just hold up 4qfMWMMsTEE-00427-00114738-00114940 your right hand for a moment 4qfMWMMsTEE-00428-00114941-00115278 and just say quote that scripture Lord 4qfMWMMsTEE-00429-00115279-00115666 you are as close to me 4qfMWMMsTEE-00430-00115667-00115936 as my right hand 4qfMWMMsTEE-00431-00115938-00116399 and he is he loves you he Delights in 4qfMWMMsTEE-00432-00116400-00116884 you you are his excellent one and he 4qfMWMMsTEE-00433-00116885-00117149 wants to set you for you've been 4qfMWMMsTEE-00434-00117150-00117563 believing lies from the enemy for years 4qfMWMMsTEE-00435-00117564-00117677 now 4qfMWMMsTEE-00436-00117678-00118097 and today is a day of freedom and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00437-00118098-00118373 deliverance turn around for you yes yes 4qfMWMMsTEE-00438-00118374-00118619 well let's look at the last verse in 4qfMWMMsTEE-00439-00118620-00119110 chapter 16 it says you will show me the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00440-00119111-00119716 path of life and in your presence there 4qfMWMMsTEE-00441-00119717-00120054 is fullness of joy at your right hand 4qfMWMMsTEE-00442-00120055-00120527 there are Pleasures forevermore 4qfMWMMsTEE-00443-00120528-00120833 and I just want to encourage you number 4qfMWMMsTEE-00444-00120833-00121284 three and finally stay in his presence 4qfMWMMsTEE-00445-00121285-00121702 in his presence it makes such a 4qfMWMMsTEE-00446-00121703-00122051 difference when you get into that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00447-00122052-00122302 atmosphere you know Pastor Gary there 4qfMWMMsTEE-00448-00122303-00122428 have been so many times when I've been 4qfMWMMsTEE-00449-00122429-00122554 struggling with things in my own life 4qfMWMMsTEE-00450-00122555-00122854 personally and I've tried to deal with 4qfMWMMsTEE-00451-00122855-00123028 it on my own but that moment that I just 4qfMWMMsTEE-00452-00123029-00123215 say Okay God I've got to bring you into 4qfMWMMsTEE-00453-00123216-00123383 this situation I've got to allow you to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00454-00123383-00123593 come in because we have that choice we 4qfMWMMsTEE-00455-00123594-00123760 can say God I don't want you involved 4qfMWMMsTEE-00456-00123761-00123916 and we try to do it on our own and we 4qfMWMMsTEE-00457-00123917-00124127 can invite him but whenever I've invited 4qfMWMMsTEE-00458-00124128-00124397 him in those moments man that burden 4qfMWMMsTEE-00459-00124398-00124745 just lifts his peace comes in and we 4qfMWMMsTEE-00460-00124746-00125002 experience the pleasures that are at his 4qfMWMMsTEE-00461-00125003-00125189 right hand forevermore I want to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00462-00125190-00125369 encourage you today if that is where you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00463-00125370-00125560 are saying okay I'm struggling with this 4qfMWMMsTEE-00464-00125561-00125908 thing invite Christ in invite the Holy 4qfMWMMsTEE-00465-00125909-00126077 Spirit to come and make a difference in 4qfMWMMsTEE-00466-00126078-00126286 your life because he will and stay there 4qfMWMMsTEE-00467-00126288-00126490 stay in his presence don't get out of it 4qfMWMMsTEE-00468-00126491-00126797 why once once you experience God once 4qfMWMMsTEE-00469-00126798-00126947 you experience being in his presence 4qfMWMMsTEE-00470-00126948-00127121 there is nothing like it and you're 4qfMWMMsTEE-00471-00127122-00127331 going to want to keep going back and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00472-00127332-00127577 getting more and getting more it's kind 4qfMWMMsTEE-00473-00127578-00127786 of it's better than an addiction it is I 4qfMWMMsTEE-00474-00127788-00127954 don't I hate using those carnal words 4qfMWMMsTEE-00475-00127955-00128158 but it's better than that because man 4qfMWMMsTEE-00476-00128159-00128386 when you get the fullness of Christ in 4qfMWMMsTEE-00477-00128388-00128549 you and you get his holy spirit working 4qfMWMMsTEE-00478-00128550-00128740 in your life you know that no matter 4qfMWMMsTEE-00479-00128741-00128969 what you are facing no matter what 4qfMWMMsTEE-00480-00128970-00129245 discouragement tries to come you have 4qfMWMMsTEE-00481-00129246-00129425 that Shield of faith that rises up 4qfMWMMsTEE-00482-00129426-00129563 because you were a Believer and you have 4qfMWMMsTEE-00483-00129564-00129778 on the armor of God that says it doesn't 4qfMWMMsTEE-00484-00129779-00129995 matter what comes my direction I know 4qfMWMMsTEE-00485-00129996-00130186 the God that I serve and I know that his 4qfMWMMsTEE-00486-00130188-00130433 presence is with me and I know that as I 4qfMWMMsTEE-00487-00130433-00130684 stay here and as I commune with him as I 4qfMWMMsTEE-00488-00130685-00130852 have that relationship with him what was 4qfMWMMsTEE-00489-00130853-00130997 it Moses said you know I don't want to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00490-00130998-00131237 go anywhere unless your presence goes 4qfMWMMsTEE-00491-00131238-00131447 with me Lord that's where I want to be 4qfMWMMsTEE-00492-00131448-00131573 in my life God I don't want to go 4qfMWMMsTEE-00493-00131574-00131795 anywhere and I pray that's your prayer 4qfMWMMsTEE-00494-00131796-00131993 today God I don't want to make another 4qfMWMMsTEE-00495-00131994-00132166 step I don't want to make another move 4qfMWMMsTEE-00496-00132167-00132395 without your presence we live in a world 4qfMWMMsTEE-00497-00132396-00132839 that we need the presence of Jesus we 4qfMWMMsTEE-00498-00132840-00133025 need the power of the Holy Spirit 4qfMWMMsTEE-00499-00133026-00133277 leading and directing Our Lives because 4qfMWMMsTEE-00500-00133278-00133511 if we don't have it we're going to feel 4qfMWMMsTEE-00501-00133512-00133757 hopeless like you said pastor Myra we're 4qfMWMMsTEE-00502-00133758-00133925 going to feel hopeless so we need to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00503-00133926-00134171 stay in his presence immersed in his 4qfMWMMsTEE-00504-00134172-00134375 presence at all times I was thinking 4qfMWMMsTEE-00505-00134376-00134543 about that same chapter as you were 4qfMWMMsTEE-00506-00134544-00134652 reading 4qfMWMMsTEE-00507-00134653-00134933 that passage I thought about how God 4qfMWMMsTEE-00508-00134934-00135095 told Moses 4qfMWMMsTEE-00509-00135096-00135551 there's a place by me and I will hide 4qfMWMMsTEE-00510-00135552-00135785 you there in the cleft of The Rock 4qfMWMMsTEE-00511-00135786-00136078 and I think about in the secret place of 4qfMWMMsTEE-00512-00136079-00136504 the most high God if we just abide there 4qfMWMMsTEE-00513-00136505-00136745 there's nothing like it as you were 4qfMWMMsTEE-00514-00136746-00137183 saying God wants you to live there with 4qfMWMMsTEE-00515-00137184-00137609 him in his presence fullness of joy not 4qfMWMMsTEE-00516-00137610-00137831 happiness based on the things that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00517-00137832-00138193 happen around us but that state of Joy 4qfMWMMsTEE-00518-00138194-00138587 God wants you to to be in his presence 4qfMWMMsTEE-00519-00138588-00139043 because there fullness of joy There's No 4qfMWMMsTEE-00520-00139044-00139445 Greater Joy than in his presence amen 4qfMWMMsTEE-00521-00139446-00139619 and you know there's a reality that you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00522-00139620-00139871 can be in his presence and your 4qfMWMMsTEE-00523-00139872-00140225 circumstances keep you from being on 4qfMWMMsTEE-00524-00140226-00140435 keeping you for being aware that you're 4qfMWMMsTEE-00525-00140436-00140651 in his presence I think of cleopas and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00526-00140652-00140902 his friend right after the resurrection 4qfMWMMsTEE-00527-00140903-00141166 of Jesus they're on their way back out 4qfMWMMsTEE-00528-00141167-00141313 of town and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00529-00141314-00141575 Jesus pulls up next to him they're 4qfMWMMsTEE-00530-00141576-00141797 walking of course and here they are 4qfMWMMsTEE-00531-00141798-00142109 walking talking in the presence of the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00532-00142110-00142409 resurrected Lord himself but because 4qfMWMMsTEE-00533-00142410-00142714 their eyes had been so blinded 4qfMWMMsTEE-00534-00142715-00142931 from the circumstances that they had 4qfMWMMsTEE-00535-00142932-00143099 just went through they they said did you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00536-00143100-00143416 haven't you heard don't you know what 4qfMWMMsTEE-00537-00143417-00143543 just happened can I tell you something 4qfMWMMsTEE-00538-00143544-00143825 Jesus knows everything that happened and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00539-00143826-00143969 maybe you are that person that's 4qfMWMMsTEE-00540-00143970-00144185 watching right now that's been abandoned 4qfMWMMsTEE-00541-00144186-00144443 by your father mistreated by your mother 4qfMWMMsTEE-00542-00144444-00144604 you've gone through different 4qfMWMMsTEE-00543-00144605-00144845 circumstances choices in your own life 4qfMWMMsTEE-00544-00144846-00145169 have run you through the muck that Jesus 4qfMWMMsTEE-00545-00145170-00145457 knows but he shows up right at your 4qfMWMMsTEE-00546-00145458-00145690 right hand and he says will you walk 4qfMWMMsTEE-00547-00145691-00145990 with me will you allow your 4qfMWMMsTEE-00548-00145991-00146213 circumstances to melt so that you can 4qfMWMMsTEE-00549-00146214-00146723 experience the joy of my presence and at 4qfMWMMsTEE-00550-00146724-00146909 the moment the Bible says there in Luke 4qfMWMMsTEE-00551-00146910-00147149 when they realized who it was Jesus 4qfMWMMsTEE-00552-00147150-00147352 Jesus vanished from their midst then 4qfMWMMsTEE-00553-00147353-00147557 they said to one another didn't our 4qfMWMMsTEE-00554-00147558-00147869 hearts burn as we walked and talked with 4qfMWMMsTEE-00555-00147870-00148049 him along the way right now summer your 4qfMWMMsTEE-00556-00148050-00148187 hearts are burning because you're 4qfMWMMsTEE-00557-00148188-00148414 sensing the presence of God and you know 4qfMWMMsTEE-00558-00148415-00148661 that it's time to fully enter into that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00559-00148662-00148871 presence into and to welcome that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00560-00148872-00149099 presence into your own life and shortly 4qfMWMMsTEE-00561-00149100-00149266 we're going to give you an opportunity 4qfMWMMsTEE-00562-00149267-00149423 to do that but right now I want you to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00563-00149424-00149651 just enjoy that presence let the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00564-00149652-00149831 presence of Jesus Christ let the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00565-00149832-00150119 fullness of his Joy begin to eradicate 4qfMWMMsTEE-00566-00150120-00150316 everything that's happened to you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00567-00150317-00150563 everything that didn't happen to you all 4qfMWMMsTEE-00568-00150564-00150827 your disappointments all your your unmet 4qfMWMMsTEE-00569-00150828-00151043 expectations right now you know there 4qfMWMMsTEE-00570-00151044-00151331 are so many things so many things that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00571-00151332-00151577 so many people go through and the enemy 4qfMWMMsTEE-00572-00151578-00151913 just uses them to block them from seeing 4qfMWMMsTEE-00573-00151914-00152087 the presence of God but right now the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00574-00152088-00152297 fullness of his Joy is just washing over 4qfMWMMsTEE-00575-00152298-00152585 you so that you can experience that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00576-00152586-00152914 fullness that peace as he walks 4qfMWMMsTEE-00577-00152915-00153125 alongside of you oh it's such a great 4qfMWMMsTEE-00578-00153126-00153347 thing Pastor Gary it is so how do you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00579-00153348-00153659 stay stay in his presence well it says 4qfMWMMsTEE-00580-00153660-00154078 that God inhabits he lives and dwells in 4qfMWMMsTEE-00581-00154079-00154409 the Praises of his people number one go 4qfMWMMsTEE-00582-00154410-00154613 to church get under that corporate 4qfMWMMsTEE-00583-00154614-00154966 anointing number two turn on Christian 4qfMWMMsTEE-00584-00154967-00155357 television where you can hear Christian 4qfMWMMsTEE-00585-00155358-00155701 music turn on Christian radio you know 4qfMWMMsTEE-00586-00155702-00156137 play Christian music if you're in a if 4qfMWMMsTEE-00587-00156138-00156359 you're in a hospital or a nursing home 4qfMWMMsTEE-00588-00156360-00156616 or if you're in jail get access to some 4qfMWMMsTEE-00589-00156617-00157066 Christian music sing sing praises to the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00590-00157067-00157337 Lord don't let the enemy steal your soul 4qfMWMMsTEE-00591-00157338-00157583 or another way to just stay in his 4qfMWMMsTEE-00592-00157584-00157828 presence is just listen to Pastor 4qfMWMMsTEE-00593-00157829-00158207 Rebecca and she sings for us we need a 4qfMWMMsTEE-00594-00158208-00159222 miracle 4qfMWMMsTEE-00595-00159223-00159643 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00596-00159644-00159961 you're the same God to say 4qfMWMMsTEE-00597-00159962-00160361 and the same God tomorrow 4qfMWMMsTEE-00598-00160362-00160693 let me see the victory 4qfMWMMsTEE-00599-00160694-00161269 you already see let my faith be today 4qfMWMMsTEE-00600-00161270-00161640 what it will be tomorrow 4qfMWMMsTEE-00601-00161641-00162317 when I see the victory you already seen 4qfMWMMsTEE-00602-00162318-00162625 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00603-00162626-00163243 Jesus I believe oh 4qfMWMMsTEE-00604-00163244-00163495 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00605-00163496-00163813 we need a miracle 4qfMWMMsTEE-00606-00163814-00164261 you are the miracle maker god of the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00607-00164262-00164449 impossible 4qfMWMMsTEE-00608-00164450-00164952 there is no power for greater exceeding 4qfMWMMsTEE-00609-00164953-00165311 abundance beyond what we could ask or 4qfMWMMsTEE-00610-00165312-00165749 think we call on your name 4qfMWMMsTEE-00611-00165750-00165916 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00612-00165917-00165982 Jesus 4qfMWMMsTEE-00613-00165983-00166041 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00614-00166042-00166271 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00615-00166272-00166902 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00616-00166903-00167323 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00617-00167324-00167676 by The Power Of Your Name 4qfMWMMsTEE-00618-00167677-00168052 and All For Your Glory 4qfMWMMsTEE-00619-00168053-00168437 take our heel the soul is still the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00620-00168438-00168821 battle has been won on your promise I 4qfMWMMsTEE-00621-00168822-00169307 stand I do and in faith I'm believing 4qfMWMMsTEE-00622-00169308-00169825 that what I pray in your name is already 4qfMWMMsTEE-00623-00169826-00170428 done oh 4qfMWMMsTEE-00624-00170429-00171175 be done 4qfMWMMsTEE-00625-00171176-00171504 we need the miracle 4qfMWMMsTEE-00626-00171505-00171916 you are the miracle maker you've gotta 4qfMWMMsTEE-00627-00171917-00172128 be impossible 4qfMWMMsTEE-00628-00172129-00172613 there is no power greater exceeding 4qfMWMMsTEE-00629-00172614-00173095 the dance beyond what we could ask or be 4qfMWMMsTEE-00630-00173096-00173620 call on your name Jesus 4qfMWMMsTEE-00631-00173621-00174007 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00632-00174008-00174581 yes we do God there's no other name that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00633-00174582-00175025 has your power Jesus 4qfMWMMsTEE-00634-00175026-00175639 now waiting you get the glory 4qfMWMMsTEE-00635-00175640-00176178 in the healing you get the glory yes 4qfMWMMsTEE-00636-00176179-00176785 Lord in the breaking you get the glory 4qfMWMMsTEE-00637-00176786-00177226 and it's in the Breakthrough you get the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00638-00177227-00177475 glory 4qfMWMMsTEE-00639-00177476-00177754 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00640-00177755-00178061 you get the glory 4qfMWMMsTEE-00641-00178062-00178426 yes Jesus 4qfMWMMsTEE-00642-00178427-00179007 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00643-00179008-00179640 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00644-00179641-00180226 you get the glory yes 4qfMWMMsTEE-00645-00180227-00180873 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00646-00180874-00181546 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00647-00181547-00182059 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00648-00182060-00182693 yes yes 4qfMWMMsTEE-00649-00182694-00183154 we need a miracle yeah you are the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00650-00183155-00183652 Miracles maker I gotta be impossible 4qfMWMMsTEE-00651-00183653-00184135 there is no power greater exceeding 4qfMWMMsTEE-00652-00184136-00184514 button dance 4qfMWMMsTEE-00653-00184515-00185348 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00654-00185349-00186882 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00655-00186883-00187231 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00656-00187232-00187467 on your name 4qfMWMMsTEE-00657-00187468-00187588 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00658-00187589-00188297 only what we do 4qfMWMMsTEE-00659-00188298-00188689 Jesus 4qfMWMMsTEE-00660-00188690-00188772 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00661-00188773-00189003 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00662-00189004-00189276 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00663-00189277-00189552 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00664-00189553-00189635 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00665-00189636-00190307 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00666-00190308-00190473 Jesus 4qfMWMMsTEE-00667-00190474-00191093 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00668-00191094-00191357 oh if you've just joined us you are 4qfMWMMsTEE-00669-00191358-00191723 watching move your mountain and remember 4qfMWMMsTEE-00670-00191724-00191945 we're going to take communion in just a 4qfMWMMsTEE-00671-00191946-00192149 few moments we want you to make sure you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00672-00192150-00192413 have your elements a cracker a piece of 4qfMWMMsTEE-00673-00192414-00192826 bread some juice in a cup so many of you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00674-00192827-00193216 tell us how you love to just take Holy 4qfMWMMsTEE-00675-00193217-00193481 Communion with us on move your Mountain 4qfMWMMsTEE-00676-00193482-00193859 every week we've been looking at psalm 4qfMWMMsTEE-00677-00193860-00194116 16 together I encourage you to just 4qfMWMMsTEE-00678-00194117-00194563 delve into it is so rich and so 4qfMWMMsTEE-00679-00194564-00194938 revelatory Jesus says that or The God 4qfMWMMsTEE-00680-00194939-00195275 says that he he Delights in you think 4qfMWMMsTEE-00681-00195276-00195652 about that you're his excellent one and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00682-00195653-00195875 I want you just to get that healthy 4qfMWMMsTEE-00683-00195876-00196343 image that right image of your heavenly 4qfMWMMsTEE-00684-00196344-00196663 father and if you haven't 4qfMWMMsTEE-00685-00196664-00196954 believed that if you think either God's 4qfMWMMsTEE-00686-00196955-00197266 mad at you or you're not worthy enough 4qfMWMMsTEE-00687-00197267-00197645 or somehow you've messed up too much you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00688-00197646-00198016 need to just ask the Lord to set you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00689-00198017-00198335 free Pastor Meyer I know that's a prayer 4qfMWMMsTEE-00690-00198336-00198545 God wants to answer absolutely to be 4qfMWMMsTEE-00691-00198546-00198851 free there's nothing like being free in 4qfMWMMsTEE-00692-00198852-00198949 him 4qfMWMMsTEE-00693-00198950-00199366 God wants you to be free Jesus said I 4qfMWMMsTEE-00694-00199367-00199607 came that they might have life and that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00695-00199608-00199864 they might have it more abundantly God 4qfMWMMsTEE-00696-00199865-00200302 wants your life to be abundant so if you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00697-00200303-00200609 are living Beneath Your Privilege God is 4qfMWMMsTEE-00698-00200610-00200878 calling you today to allow him to move 4qfMWMMsTEE-00699-00200879-00201154 that mountain out of your life to move 4qfMWMMsTEE-00700-00201155-00201371 it out of the way so that you can be 4qfMWMMsTEE-00701-00201372-00201790 totally free and enjoy what Jesus did at 4qfMWMMsTEE-00702-00201791-00202025 the cross we're going to commemorate 4qfMWMMsTEE-00703-00202026-00202390 that I love taking communion also when 4qfMWMMsTEE-00704-00202391-00202726 we come together because it causes me 4qfMWMMsTEE-00705-00202727-00203002 to remember God wants us to remember 4qfMWMMsTEE-00706-00203003-00203314 what he wants to do for you yeah yeah 4qfMWMMsTEE-00707-00203315-00203681 and it's very easy to remember what has 4qfMWMMsTEE-00708-00203682-00203854 happened to you it's very easy to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00709-00203855-00204202 remember negative things but right now 4qfMWMMsTEE-00710-00204203-00204376 as you're watching this program I want 4qfMWMMsTEE-00711-00204377-00204550 you to take a moment I want you to think 4qfMWMMsTEE-00712-00204551-00204929 back to the time when you gave your life 4qfMWMMsTEE-00713-00204930-00205066 to Jesus 4qfMWMMsTEE-00714-00205067-00205258 I want you to consider the circumstances 4qfMWMMsTEE-00715-00205259-00205414 that you may have been in I want you to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00716-00205415-00205751 think of what it felt like as his as his 4qfMWMMsTEE-00717-00205752-00205973 Spirit entered your heart and your and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00718-00205973-00206201 and you were born again 4qfMWMMsTEE-00719-00206202-00206386 want you to think of that moment I want 4qfMWMMsTEE-00720-00206387-00206566 you to to treasure that moment because 4qfMWMMsTEE-00721-00206567-00206758 for some of you it's it's been a long 4qfMWMMsTEE-00722-00206759-00206932 time since you've thought back to that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00723-00206933-00207101 moment and the and the devil is coming 4qfMWMMsTEE-00724-00207102-00207407 he's just piled tragedy on top of 4qfMWMMsTEE-00725-00207408-00207592 tragedy disappointment on top of 4qfMWMMsTEE-00726-00207594-00207832 disappointment and God is wanting you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00727-00207833-00208090 right now to remember back to that time 4qfMWMMsTEE-00728-00208091-00208301 when you gave your life to him when you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00729-00208302-00208619 realized you were his you realized you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00730-00208619-00208792 were loved you realized you were 4qfMWMMsTEE-00731-00208794-00209086 accepted you realized that there is now 4qfMWMMsTEE-00732-00209087-00209314 no condemnation for those who are in 4qfMWMMsTEE-00733-00209315-00209512 Christ and and you felt Freer than 4qfMWMMsTEE-00734-00209513-00209705 you've ever been you you may have cried 4qfMWMMsTEE-00735-00209706-00209963 you may have shaken you may have wept 4qfMWMMsTEE-00736-00209964-00210173 you may have shouted for Joy you may 4qfMWMMsTEE-00737-00210173-00210581 have just sat in Humble Thanksgiving 4qfMWMMsTEE-00738-00210582-00210773 now if you don't have that moment in 4qfMWMMsTEE-00739-00210773-00210875 your life 4qfMWMMsTEE-00740-00210876-00211031 some of you right now you're watching 4qfMWMMsTEE-00741-00211032-00211253 and you're searching when was that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00742-00211254-00211481 moment I I don't know if that moment 4qfMWMMsTEE-00743-00211482-00211715 ever happened well you know what 4qfMWMMsTEE-00744-00211716-00212039 let's make right now your moment 4qfMWMMsTEE-00745-00212040-00212260 let's make today 4qfMWMMsTEE-00746-00212261-00212446 watching move your Mountain be the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00747-00212448-00212596 moment 4qfMWMMsTEE-00748-00212598-00212765 when you've experienced for the first 4qfMWMMsTEE-00749-00212766-00213142 time the fullness of the joy of the full 4qfMWMMsTEE-00750-00213144-00213448 presence of God alive inside of you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00751-00213450-00213803 see how do I get there what do I do 4qfMWMMsTEE-00752-00213804-00213977 well it's as simple as this you first 4qfMWMMsTEE-00753-00213978-00214156 have to acknowledge that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00754-00214157-00214342 you're a sinner what does that mean 4qfMWMMsTEE-00755-00214344-00214481 you're a bad person no it means you're 4qfMWMMsTEE-00756-00214482-00214619 far from God 4qfMWMMsTEE-00757-00214619-00214865 the gradations of sin whether it's 4qfMWMMsTEE-00758-00214866-00215056 murderer or Little White Lie 4qfMWMMsTEE-00759-00215057-00215255 all of them 4qfMWMMsTEE-00760-00215256-00215663 just the smallest bit is enough 4qfMWMMsTEE-00761-00215664-00215884 to have you sent to the Lake of Fire 4qfMWMMsTEE-00762-00215885-00216041 when you die 4qfMWMMsTEE-00763-00216042-00216232 but you know what 4qfMWMMsTEE-00764-00216233-00216496 the act of Jesus Christ on the cross is 4qfMWMMsTEE-00765-00216498-00216742 more than enough to wash away all of the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00766-00216744-00217055 sins no matter how many or how bad 4qfMWMMsTEE-00767-00217056-00217246 but you have to say I'm far from God I'm 4qfMWMMsTEE-00768-00217248-00217589 a sinner I I I I am desperate need to be 4qfMWMMsTEE-00769-00217590-00217781 brought back into right relationship and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00770-00217782-00217984 then you you understand that the only 4qfMWMMsTEE-00771-00217985-00218123 way 4qfMWMMsTEE-00772-00218123-00218267 to be brought back into right 4qfMWMMsTEE-00773-00218267-00218465 relationship with the fathers through 4qfMWMMsTEE-00774-00218466-00218753 the son Jesus who came 4qfMWMMsTEE-00775-00218754-00218969 live that sinless life that none of us 4qfMWMMsTEE-00776-00218969-00219131 could live 4qfMWMMsTEE-00777-00219132-00219431 died the death that all of us deserved 4qfMWMMsTEE-00778-00219432-00219767 and then rose again from the grave 4qfMWMMsTEE-00779-00219767-00220127 to to prove as a testimony to the world 4qfMWMMsTEE-00780-00220128-00220451 he is who he says he is the Lord and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00781-00220452-00220660 savior of the universe and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00782-00220661-00221015 and you accept Jesus as your lord and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00783-00221016-00221248 your savior you say I put my faith I put 4qfMWMMsTEE-00784-00221250-00221560 my belief not in my own efforts 4qfMWMMsTEE-00785-00221561-00221813 not in what I did do or what I can't do 4qfMWMMsTEE-00786-00221814-00222010 but in what he's already done I put my 4qfMWMMsTEE-00787-00222011-00222232 faith in the work of Jesus Christ on the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00788-00222233-00222419 cross I put my faith in his resurrection 4qfMWMMsTEE-00789-00222419-00222581 from the dead 4qfMWMMsTEE-00790-00222582-00222803 put my faith in him as Lord and Savior 4qfMWMMsTEE-00791-00222804-00223187 and I turn from my sinful life and turn 4qfMWMMsTEE-00792-00223188-00223384 and receive his holy life and if you do 4qfMWMMsTEE-00793-00223385-00223523 that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00794-00223523-00223792 today's your day 4qfMWMMsTEE-00795-00223794-00224081 and so right now as you begin to turn 4qfMWMMsTEE-00796-00224082-00224242 your heart to the Lord I just invite you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00797-00224244-00224446 to just pray a prayer you can pray with 4qfMWMMsTEE-00798-00224448-00224608 me in your heart or you can pray the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00799-00224609-00224789 words that I pray and just say Lord 4qfMWMMsTEE-00800-00224790-00225041 Jesus I thank you today 4qfMWMMsTEE-00801-00225042-00225371 that you are who you said you were the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00802-00225371-00225544 Lord and savior of the universe and for 4qfMWMMsTEE-00803-00225546-00225887 the first time I I give my life to you I 4qfMWMMsTEE-00804-00225888-00226108 acknowledge my sinfulness I acknowledge 4qfMWMMsTEE-00805-00226109-00226373 my desperate need and my distance from 4qfMWMMsTEE-00806-00226373-00226625 the father and I Turn to You to bring me 4qfMWMMsTEE-00807-00226626-00226871 nearer to him now I put my faith and 4qfMWMMsTEE-00808-00226871-00227267 hope and trust in you as God and savior 4qfMWMMsTEE-00809-00227267-00227471 and I Surrender my life to you I 4qfMWMMsTEE-00810-00227471-00227687 surrender to your lordship I turn for my 4qfMWMMsTEE-00811-00227688-00227998 sin and I yield to your lordship right 4qfMWMMsTEE-00812-00228000-00228353 now God and I thank you today 4qfMWMMsTEE-00813-00228354-00228598 for seeing something in me worth dying 4qfMWMMsTEE-00814-00228600-00228671 for 4qfMWMMsTEE-00815-00228671-00229037 I thank you today for giving me the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00816-00229038-00229427 opportunity to rise again with you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00817-00229428-00229660 Jesus name 4qfMWMMsTEE-00818-00229661-00230021 amen amen and Pastor Rebecca we talked 4qfMWMMsTEE-00819-00230021-00230351 about how the Lord just close to us 4qfMWMMsTEE-00820-00230352-00230669 as our right hand in his presence his 4qfMWMMsTEE-00821-00230669-00231017 presence is not a feeling it's a fact 4qfMWMMsTEE-00822-00231017-00231227 it's the truth 4qfMWMMsTEE-00823-00231228-00231377 and we need to grasp a hold of that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00824-00231378-00231575 because many times when you're feeling 4qfMWMMsTEE-00825-00231576-00231784 down you're saying well God's not near 4qfMWMMsTEE-00826-00231785-00231965 me he's not around me or when you're 4qfMWMMsTEE-00827-00231966-00232103 feeling like you've been neglected 4qfMWMMsTEE-00828-00232104-00232282 you're saying God's not with me but when 4qfMWMMsTEE-00829-00232283-00232439 you fill those Goosebumps on a Sunday 4qfMWMMsTEE-00830-00232440-00232589 morning of worship oh he's right there 4qfMWMMsTEE-00831-00232590-00232858 no God is with you at all times his 4qfMWMMsTEE-00832-00232859-00233092 presence is with you at all times no 4qfMWMMsTEE-00833-00233094-00233356 matter if you feel it or you don't feel 4qfMWMMsTEE-00834-00233357-00233687 it it is there with you right now where 4qfMWMMsTEE-00835-00233688-00233939 you are you can't you can't escape from 4qfMWMMsTEE-00836-00233940-00234179 it psalmist David said in Psalm 139 4qfMWMMsTEE-00837-00234180-00234460 whether I make my bed in hell or I go to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00838-00234461-00234737 the highest Heavens Lord you are there 4qfMWMMsTEE-00839-00234738-00234937 he is there at all times with you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00840-00234938-00235198 recognize him we need to understand that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00841-00235200-00235444 and recognize that his presence is not 4qfMWMMsTEE-00842-00235446-00235631 leaving us we can turn our back on him 4qfMWMMsTEE-00843-00235632-00235955 but he's not going to leave us 4qfMWMMsTEE-00844-00235956-00236146 well we're going to take Holy Communion 4qfMWMMsTEE-00845-00236148-00236321 if you have your elements would you get 4qfMWMMsTEE-00846-00236321-00236584 them now let's pray over them the Bible 4qfMWMMsTEE-00847-00236585-00236915 says examine your own heart 4qfMWMMsTEE-00848-00236916-00237173 and Lord it was on the night that you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00849-00237173-00237508 were soon about to be betrayed you had 4qfMWMMsTEE-00850-00237509-00237892 us on your mind and you took bread you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00851-00237894-00238103 blessed it and broke it 4qfMWMMsTEE-00852-00238104-00238517 for this your body was broken for us 4qfMWMMsTEE-00853-00238517-00238739 for you were wounded for our 4qfMWMMsTEE-00854-00238740-00238882 transgressions 4qfMWMMsTEE-00855-00238883-00239323 you were bruised for our iniquities the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00856-00239323-00239687 chastisement of our peace was on you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00857-00239688-00240173 Lord and with and by your stripes we 4qfMWMMsTEE-00858-00240173-00240521 were and we are the healed 4qfMWMMsTEE-00859-00240521-00240731 and as you take that Cracker that way 4qfMWMMsTEE-00860-00240732-00240941 for that piece of bread eat of it now 4qfMWMMsTEE-00861-00240942-00241265 and be healed in the name of Jesus 4qfMWMMsTEE-00862-00241266-00242387 Christ of Nazareth 4qfMWMMsTEE-00863-00242388-00242687 we thank you for the blood 4qfMWMMsTEE-00864-00242688-00242884 we thank you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00865-00242885-00243082 we remember now 4qfMWMMsTEE-00866-00243083-00243598 the blood that takes away 4qfMWMMsTEE-00867-00243600-00243953 there was shed for the remission of our 4qfMWMMsTEE-00868-00243954-00244073 sins 4qfMWMMsTEE-00869-00244073-00244260 we thank you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00870-00244261-00244498 God we thank you for giving your only 4qfMWMMsTEE-00871-00244500-00244781 begotten son 4qfMWMMsTEE-00872-00244782-00245123 that because we believe that you've 4qfMWMMsTEE-00873-00245123-00245260 accepted us 4qfMWMMsTEE-00874-00245261-00245542 in the Beloved so we say thank you for 4qfMWMMsTEE-00875-00245544-00245891 the blood we say thank you because you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00876-00245892-00246232 didn't have to do it but you did and we 4qfMWMMsTEE-00877-00246233-00246521 give you glory for it we give you all 4qfMWMMsTEE-00878-00246521-00246682 the honor for 4qfMWMMsTEE-00879-00246683-00246977 in Jesus name 4qfMWMMsTEE-00880-00246978-00247169 all right take your cup now and drink 4qfMWMMsTEE-00881-00247169-00247427 and be washed and cleansed by the blood 4qfMWMMsTEE-00882-00247428-00248092 of the Lamb 4qfMWMMsTEE-00883-00248094-00248381 well the Bible says sin separates us 4qfMWMMsTEE-00884-00248382-00248651 from God and when we've confessed our 4qfMWMMsTEE-00885-00248652-00248903 sins talk about a great time to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00886-00248904-00249148 experience his presence it's right now 4qfMWMMsTEE-00887-00249150-00249396 amen amen and just receive it right now 4qfMWMMsTEE-00888-00249398-00249653 just receive it remember I love how 4qfMWMMsTEE-00889-00249654-00249929 Pastor Gary said it's not a feeling it's 4qfMWMMsTEE-00890-00249930-00250181 a fact so whether you're experiencing 4qfMWMMsTEE-00891-00250182-00250439 something physically or not I want you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00892-00250440-00250798 to mentally apprehend the reality the 4qfMWMMsTEE-00893-00250800-00250942 fact 4qfMWMMsTEE-00894-00250944-00251242 presence is with you right now you know 4qfMWMMsTEE-00895-00251244-00251453 I'm sitting here with Pastor Meyer 4qfMWMMsTEE-00896-00251454-00251632 Pastor Gary Pastor Rebecca they could 4qfMWMMsTEE-00897-00251633-00251819 all turn their back on me they wouldn't 4qfMWMMsTEE-00898-00251819-00251944 see me anymore 4qfMWMMsTEE-00899-00251946-00252077 but that didn't mean that I went 4qfMWMMsTEE-00900-00252078-00252323 anywhere in the same way Pastor Rebecca 4qfMWMMsTEE-00901-00252323-00252544 said we can turn our back on God but 4qfMWMMsTEE-00902-00252546-00252725 that doesn't mean that he went anywhere 4qfMWMMsTEE-00903-00252726-00252982 so just receive the goodness of his 4qfMWMMsTEE-00904-00252983-00253192 presence right now let it well up inside 4qfMWMMsTEE-00905-00253194-00253325 of you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00906-00253326-00253601 and take the fullness of joy that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00907-00253602-00253925 inhabits it because his Delight is in 4qfMWMMsTEE-00908-00253926-00254092 you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00909-00254094-00254410 well if you are blessed by programs like 4qfMWMMsTEE-00910-00254411-00254681 move your 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4qfMWMMsTEE-00925-00259031-00259277 and the Lord said I will give you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00926-00259278-00259648 partners that have the money and if 4qfMWMMsTEE-00927-00259650-00259930 you've never given to Cornerstone 4qfMWMMsTEE-00928-00259931-00260303 television or maybe it's been a while 4qfMWMMsTEE-00929-00260304-00260579 I'd like to invite you to come home 4qfMWMMsTEE-00930-00260580-00260879 you could do a one-time gift or a 4qfMWMMsTEE-00931-00260880-00261208 monthly gift let's pray about it let me 4qfMWMMsTEE-00932-00261209-00261510 give you our address it's Cornerstone 4qfMWMMsTEE-00933-00261511-00261977 television network ctvn we're at one 4qfMWMMsTEE-00934-00261978-00262258 Signal Hill Drive we're in wall 4qfMWMMsTEE-00935-00262259-00263021 Pennsylvania 15148-1499 4qfMWMMsTEE-00936-00263022-00263303 and as you so I want you to know that 4qfMWMMsTEE-00937-00263304-00263603 Cornerstone television is good ground 4qfMWMMsTEE-00938-00263604-00263975 and fertile soil and we thank you so 4qfMWMMsTEE-00939-00263976-00264275 much for your gift well we're going to 4qfMWMMsTEE-00940-00264276-00264647 go now to Pastor Rebecca as we head over 4qfMWMMsTEE-00941-00264648-00264930 to the altar she's going to sing for us 4qfMWMMsTEE-00942-00264931-00265190 holy spirit 4qfMWMMsTEE-00943-00265191-00266371 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00944-00266372-00266730 thank you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00945-00266731-00267084 there's nothing worth 4qfMWMMsTEE-00946-00267085-00267443 that will never come close 4qfMWMMsTEE-00947-00267444-00267763 nothing can compare 4qfMWMMsTEE-00948-00267764-00268399 you're our living room 4qfMWMMsTEE-00949-00268400-00269437 your presence 4qfMWMMsTEE-00950-00269438-00269875 I've tasted and see 4qfMWMMsTEE-00951-00269876-00270098 all that is 4qfMWMMsTEE-00952-00270099-00270235 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00953-00270236-00271130 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00954-00271131-00271212 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00955-00271213-00271577 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00956-00271578-00271687 Jesus 4qfMWMMsTEE-00957-00271688-00272826 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00958-00272827-00273263 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00959-00273264-00273779 you're the glory god is what our hearts 4qfMWMMsTEE-00960-00273780-00274258 along for to be overcome 4qfMWMMsTEE-00961-00274259-00274504 by your presence 4qfMWMMsTEE-00962-00274505-00274619 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00963-00274620-00275162 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00964-00275163-00276103 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00965-00276104-00276489 this is 4qfMWMMsTEE-00966-00276490-00277313 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00967-00277314-00277935 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00968-00277936-00279397 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00969-00279398-00279803 where my heart becomes free 4qfMWMMsTEE-00970-00279804-00280075 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00971-00280076-00280319 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00972-00280320-00280464 easier 4qfMWMMsTEE-00973-00280465-00281015 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00974-00281016-00281663 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00975-00281664-00282589 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00976-00282590-00283040 your glory god is 4qfMWMMsTEE-00977-00283041-00283336 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00978-00283337-00283855 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00979-00283856-00284463 love you 4qfMWMMsTEE-00980-00284464-00285347 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00981-00285348-00285839 let us become more aware of your 4qfMWMMsTEE-00982-00285840-00286639 presence 4qfMWMMsTEE-00983-00286640-00286979 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00984-00286980-00287299 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00985-00287300-00287651 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00986-00287652-00287735 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00987-00287736-00288517 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00988-00288518-00288879 with you to Jesus 4qfMWMMsTEE-00989-00288880-00288979 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00990-00288980-00289068 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00991-00289069-00289111 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00992-00289112-00289319 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00993-00289320-00289369 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00994-00289370-00290401 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00995-00290402-00290437 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00996-00290438-00291175 [Applause] 4qfMWMMsTEE-00997-00291176-00291713 should we ask the Holy Spirit you are 4qfMWMMsTEE-00998-00291714-00291947 welcome here 4qfMWMMsTEE-00999-00291948-00292431 come and plant this place 4qfMWMMsTEE-01000-00292432-00294767 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-01001-00294768-00295006 oh the Holy Spirit goes where he's 4qfMWMMsTEE-01002-00295007-00295265 invited amen and we invite him here I 4qfMWMMsTEE-01003-00295266-00295499 pray that you are inviting him into your 4qfMWMMsTEE-01004-00295500-00295745 life into your homes into the situations 4qfMWMMsTEE-01005-00295746-00296056 that you are facing because he is in the 4qfMWMMsTEE-01006-00296057-00296453 midst today yeah Speak Life Today Speak 4qfMWMMsTEE-01007-00296454-00296591 Life 4qfMWMMsTEE-01008-00296592-00296945 big life no matter what's going on Speak 4qfMWMMsTEE-01009-00296946-00297179 Life into your circumstances into your 4qfMWMMsTEE-01010-00297180-00297515 situations because our God is right 4qfMWMMsTEE-01011-00297516-00297815 there at our right hand waiting just to 4qfMWMMsTEE-01012-00297816-00298067 move on your behalf Speak Life over your 4qfMWMMsTEE-01013-00298068-00298321 children there it is amen 4qfMWMMsTEE-01014-00298322-00298553 that's right yeah and you know the 4qfMWMMsTEE-01015-00298554-00298775 reality of it is you might not see life 4qfMWMMsTEE-01016-00298776-00298991 what you're speaking life over but 4qfMWMMsTEE-01017-00298992-00299279 that's what faith is it's the substance 4qfMWMMsTEE-01018-00299280-00299621 of things hoped for and the certainty of 4qfMWMMsTEE-01019-00299622-00299873 what we don't see and so when you speak 4qfMWMMsTEE-01020-00299874-00300106 life as you were saying that Pastor Mara 4qfMWMMsTEE-01021-00300107-00300310 I thought of the parable Jesus says in 4qfMWMMsTEE-01022-00300311-00300521 Luke 18 where he said he ends it by 4qfMWMMsTEE-01023-00300522-00300665 saying but when the son of man comes 4qfMWMMsTEE-01024-00300666-00300923 will he find faith on the earth this is 4qfMWMMsTEE-01025-00300924-00301067 the faith that I believe he's looking 4qfMWMMsTEE-01026-00301068-00301271 for not just faith in him he's looking 4qfMWMMsTEE-01027-00301272-00301517 for that but he knows those who are his 4qfMWMMsTEE-01028-00301518-00301667 but I believe he's looking for those who 4qfMWMMsTEE-01029-00301668-00301943 is his excellent ones his sayings yes to 4qfMWMMsTEE-01030-00301944-00302237 Speak Life to to move and to operate in 4qfMWMMsTEE-01031-00302238-00302447 faith and to unite your faith together 4qfMWMMsTEE-01032-00302448-00302656 with with other believers so that you 4qfMWMMsTEE-01033-00302657-00302867 can see breakthrough in your life yes 4qfMWMMsTEE-01034-00302868-00303082 yes well as you could see this altar is 4qfMWMMsTEE-01035-00303083-00303317 filled with many of you that have called 4qfMWMMsTEE-01036-00303318-00303749 in 4qfMWMMsTEE-01037-00303750-00303863 called in chance that's all right 4qfMWMMsTEE-01038-00303864-00304169 there's no distance in the spirit we say 4qfMWMMsTEE-01039-00304170-00304432 that all the time because it's true so 4qfMWMMsTEE-01040-00304433-00304697 just join your faith right now it's 4qfMWMMsTEE-01041-00304698-00305021 faith that pleases God we're going to 4qfMWMMsTEE-01042-00305022-00305308 pray as you agree with us Pastor Meyer 4qfMWMMsTEE-01043-00305309-00305543 would you speak in for us thank you 4qfMWMMsTEE-01044-00305544-00305734 Father we thank you for the privilege 4qfMWMMsTEE-01045-00305735-00305975 and the honor to come boldly to the 4qfMWMMsTEE-01046-00305976-00306304 throne of grace to get help to find 4qfMWMMsTEE-01047-00306305-00306634 Mercy in our time of need and so we lift 4qfMWMMsTEE-01048-00306635-00306995 up every single prayer request 4qfMWMMsTEE-01049-00306996-00307439 we lift up every one who has anything 4qfMWMMsTEE-01050-00307440-00307841 that they need and father we call it 4qfMWMMsTEE-01051-00307842-00308213 done in the name of Jesus by faith 4qfMWMMsTEE-01052-00308214-00308693 calling it done because your word has 4qfMWMMsTEE-01053-00308694-00308789 said 4qfMWMMsTEE-01054-00308790-00309149 it is so and so we say thank you we say 4qfMWMMsTEE-01055-00309150-00309425 thank you amen would you slip over to 4qfMWMMsTEE-01056-00309426-00309629 the piano and just lead us in some 4qfMWMMsTEE-01057-00309630-00309797 worship please 4qfMWMMsTEE-01058-00309798-00310043 father we just thank you so much for who 4qfMWMMsTEE-01059-00310044-00310253 you are you are a mighty God you are the 4qfMWMMsTEE-01060-00310254-00310480 only one who is able to see every one of 4qfMWMMsTEE-01061-00310481-00310697 these needs and be able to do something 4qfMWMMsTEE-01062-00310698-00310937 about them and so God that's why we come 4qfMWMMsTEE-01063-00310938-00311080 to you today because you are all 4qfMWMMsTEE-01064-00311081-00311284 sufficient God you are all powerful God 4qfMWMMsTEE-01065-00311285-00311519 and we recognize that in our lives those 4qfMWMMsTEE-01066-00311520-00311693 that are watching they recognize that in 4qfMWMMsTEE-01067-00311694-00311849 their lives Lord God that's why they've 4qfMWMMsTEE-01068-00311850-00311987 called in that's why they've written in 4qfMWMMsTEE-01069-00311988-00312173 and so God we bring these requests 4qfMWMMsTEE-01070-00312174-00312395 before you God those that are Desiring 4qfMWMMsTEE-01071-00312396-00312587 to have children that the doctors have 4qfMWMMsTEE-01072-00312588-00312767 told no you can't have children God 4qfMWMMsTEE-01073-00312768-00312910 those are some of the prayer requests 4qfMWMMsTEE-01074-00312911-00313091 that are laid out before you right now 4qfMWMMsTEE-01075-00313092-00313354 God those that are feeling fear and 4qfMWMMsTEE-01076-00313355-00313558 anxiety they don't know what tomorrow's 4qfMWMMsTEE-01077-00313559-00313703 going to hold for them and so they're 4qfMWMMsTEE-01078-00313704-00313913 fearful of that that is the needs that 4qfMWMMsTEE-01079-00313914-00314093 are here today God and Lord I Thank you 4qfMWMMsTEE-01080-00314094-00314297 that you break every fear you break 4qfMWMMsTEE-01081-00314298-00314560 every anxious thought Lord Jesus I pray 4qfMWMMsTEE-01082-00314561-00314669 that you would give those that are 4qfMWMMsTEE-01083-00314670-00314867 dealing with anxiety right now the 4qfMWMMsTEE-01084-00314868-00315058 ability to capture every thought that 4qfMWMMsTEE-01085-00315059-00315215 comes against the knowledge of who you 4qfMWMMsTEE-01086-00315216-00315413 are in their lives God that you would 4qfMWMMsTEE-01087-00315414-00315563 just help them to capture those thoughts 4qfMWMMsTEE-01088-00315564-00315791 and let them be reminded today of who 4qfMWMMsTEE-01089-00315792-00316013 they are in you that you are their 4qfMWMMsTEE-01090-00316014-00316217 protector you are their sustainer you 4qfMWMMsTEE-01091-00316218-00316487 are their provider Lord Jesus God I pray 4qfMWMMsTEE-01092-00316488-00316660 that today that they would see your 4qfMWMMsTEE-01093-00316661-00316901 miraculous Touch of healing of 4qfMWMMsTEE-01094-00316902-00317134 Deliverance Lord of Freedom Lord 4qfMWMMsTEE-01095-00317135-00317351 intervening every one of these needs and 4qfMWMMsTEE-01096-00317352-00317489 every one of these lives that are 4qfMWMMsTEE-01097-00317490-00317729 represented here today God you do your 4qfMWMMsTEE-01098-00317730-00317891 powerful and mighty work and we will 4qfMWMMsTEE-01099-00317892-00318113 thank you and praise you for it in Jesus 4qfMWMMsTEE-01100-00318114-00318341 name oh God and we thank you today that 4qfMWMMsTEE-01101-00318342-00318647 we are your Saints we Rejoice today that 4qfMWMMsTEE-01102-00318648-00318863 those who are in Christ are a new 4qfMWMMsTEE-01103-00318864-00319103 creation and God we thank you right now 4qfMWMMsTEE-01104-00319104-00319403 that that as our faith builds and as our 4qfMWMMsTEE-01105-00319404-00319697 as our our desire for your presence 4qfMWMMsTEE-01106-00319698-00319979 increases that your joy will increase in 4qfMWMMsTEE-01107-00319980-00320267 our lives and so God I pray right now in 4qfMWMMsTEE-01108-00320268-00320567 Jesus mighty name for every body that is 4qfMWMMsTEE-01109-00320568-00320860 experiencing discomfort that right now 4qfMWMMsTEE-01110-00320861-00321089 the comforter himself the Holy Spirit 4qfMWMMsTEE-01111-00321090-00321425 would come and bring comfort in peace 4qfMWMMsTEE-01112-00321426-00321713 into those bodies I pray for those who 4qfMWMMsTEE-01113-00321714-00321934 are experiencing Tremors right now Lord 4qfMWMMsTEE-01114-00321935-00322193 God whether it's from medication whether 4qfMWMMsTEE-01115-00322194-00322415 it's from age whether it's from nerve 4qfMWMMsTEE-01116-00322416-00322732 disorders we speak healing right now in 4qfMWMMsTEE-01117-00322733-00323093 Jesus mighty name we speak to wombs 4qfMWMMsTEE-01118-00323094-00323423 right now to to be opened and to Bear 4qfMWMMsTEE-01119-00323424-00323813 children we we call upon life to Spring 4qfMWMMsTEE-01120-00323814-00324101 forth in families who are praying and 4qfMWMMsTEE-01121-00324102-00324389 believing for babies in couples who are 4qfMWMMsTEE-01122-00324390-00324689 trying oh God to bring forth life Lord 4qfMWMMsTEE-01123-00324690-00325080 God we pray right now when we release 4qfMWMMsTEE-01124-00325081-00325456 your anointing upon them to be fruitful 4qfMWMMsTEE-01125-00325457-00325853 and multiply to fill the Earth and 4qfMWMMsTEE-01126-00325854-00326093 subdue it and to have dominion because 4qfMWMMsTEE-01127-00326094-00326332 that is both your first blessing upon 4qfMWMMsTEE-01128-00326333-00326627 Mankind and your first command and we 4qfMWMMsTEE-01129-00326628-00326782 thank you God 4qfMWMMsTEE-01130-00326783-00327113 that we get to experience your presence 4qfMWMMsTEE-01131-00327114-00327413 we get to experience your nearness we 4qfMWMMsTEE-01132-00327414-00327815 get to experience your joy because God 4qfMWMMsTEE-01133-00327816-00328108 you are our at our right hand 4qfMWMMsTEE-01134-00328109-00328445 and we are at yours and we thank you for 4qfMWMMsTEE-01135-00328446-00328829 that in Jesus name amen amen well we 4qfMWMMsTEE-01136-00328830-00329039 hope you were blessed and encouraged by 4qfMWMMsTEE-01137-00329040-00329297 today's program Pastor Meyer is just 4qfMWMMsTEE-01138-00329298-00329569 going to lead us in a time of worship 4qfMWMMsTEE-01139-00329570-00329980 stay in his presence 4qfMWMMsTEE-01140-00329981-00330204 thank you 4qfMWMMsTEE-01141-00330205-00330455 I surren 4qfMWMMsTEE-01142-00330456-00330904 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-01143-00330905-00331384 to you 4qfMWMMsTEE-01144-00331385-00331672 everything 4qfMWMMsTEE-01145-00331673-00331903 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-01146-00331904-00332245 I give 4qfMWMMsTEE-01147-00332246-00332658 to you 4qfMWMMsTEE-01148-00332659-00332951 with hope 4qfMWMMsTEE-01149-00332952-00333108 nothing 4qfMWMMsTEE-01150-00333109-00333619 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-01151-00333620-00334158 holding nothing 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exists to spread the good 4qfMWMMsTEE-01173-00342581-00342856 news through bible-based programs and a 4qfMWMMsTEE-01174-00342857-00343132 fully staffed prayer line through ctvn 4qfMWMMsTEE-01175-00343133-00343408 lies are saved Hearts minds and bodies 4qfMWMMsTEE-01176-00343409-00343732 are healed and Jesus is lifted High we 4qfMWMMsTEE-01177-00343733-00343973 can't do this work without you would you 4qfMWMMsTEE-01178-00343974-00344177 consider sending a gift this month to 4qfMWMMsTEE-01179-00344178-00344375 keep the gospel moving forward with 4qfMWMMsTEE-01180-00344376-00344615 power when you give we'll send you 4qfMWMMsTEE-01181-00344616-00344903 listen love repeat which presents 4qfMWMMsTEE-01182-00344904-00345101 scriptural examples of those who lived 4qfMWMMsTEE-01183-00345102-00345358 alert including Jesus who noticed those 4qfMWMMsTEE-01184-00345359-00345604 who least expected to be seen gives 4qfMWMMsTEE-01185-00345605-00345832 creative ideas for showing love to 4qfMWMMsTEE-01186-00345833-00346073 friends and family suggest practical 4qfMWMMsTEE-01187-00346074-00346279 ways to reach out to the lonely 4qfMWMMsTEE-01188-00346280-00346558 marginalized Outcast helps you comfort 4qfMWMMsTEE-01189-00346559-00346858 The Grieving and so much more ask for 4qfMWMMsTEE-01190-00346859-00347093 your copy of listen love repeat when you 4qfMWMMsTEE-01191-00347094-00347353 give today call 4qfMWMMsTEE-01192-00347354-00347771 888-665-4483 or go to ctvn.org donate 4qfMWMMsTEE-01193-00347772-00348023 thank you for your generosity hope 4qfMWMMsTEE-01194-00348024-00348269 happens here 4qfMWMMsTEE-01195-00348270-00348415 foreign 4qfMWMMsTEE-01196-00348416-00349289 [Music] 4qfMWMMsTEE-01197-00349290-00349811 foreign 4qfMWMMsTEE-01198-00349812-00350969 [Music] 4uazfbG_t3y-00000-00000000-00000350 Oberto are gonzales born August 4th 1955 4uazfbG_t3y-00001-00000351-00000563 is an American Lawyer who served as the 4uazfbG_t3y-00002-00000564-00000729 80th United States Attorney General 4uazfbG_t3y-00003-00000730-00001073 appointed in February 2005 by president 4uazfbG_t3y-00004-00001074-00001241 george w bush becoming the 4uazfbG_t3y-00005-00001242-00001439 highest-ranking hispanic american in 4uazfbG_t3y-00006-00001440-00001598 executive government to date 4uazfbG_t3y-00007-00001599-00001841 he was the first Hispanic to serve as 4uazfbG_t3y-00008-00001842-00002057 White House Counsel earlier he had been 4uazfbG_t3y-00009-00002058-00002251 Bush's general counsel during his 4uazfbG_t3y-00010-00002252-00002570 governorship of Texas Gonzales had also 4uazfbG_t3y-00011-00002571-00002776 served as secretary of state of Texas 4uazfbG_t3y-00012-00002777-00002945 and then as a Texas Supreme Court 4uazfbG_t3y-00013-00002946-00003272 justice Gonzalez's tenure as US Attorney 4uazfbG_t3y-00014-00003272-00003415 General was marked by controversy 4uazfbG_t3y-00015-00003417-00003665 regarding warrantless surveillance of US 4uazfbG_t3y-00016-00003665-00003878 citizens and the legal authorization of 4uazfbG_t3y-00017-00003879-00004009 so-called enhanced interrogation 4uazfbG_t3y-00018-00004010-00004261 techniques later generally acknowledged 4uazfbG_t3y-00019-00004262-00004460 as constituting torture in the US 4uazfbG_t3y-00020-00004461-00004741 government's post 9/11 war on terror 4uazfbG_t3y-00021-00004742-00004985 Gonzales had also presided over the 4uazfbG_t3y-00022-00004986-00005210 firings of several US attorneys who had 4uazfbG_t3y-00023-00005211-00005363 refused back-channel White House 4uazfbG_t3y-00024-00005364-00005570 directives to prosecute political 4uazfbG_t3y-00025-00005571-00005788 enemies allegedly causing the office of 4uazfbG_t3y-00026-00005789-00005972 attorney general to become improperly 4uazfbG_t3y-00027-00005973-00006238 politicized following calls for his 4uazfbG_t3y-00028-00006239-00006431 removal Gonzales resigned from the 4uazfbG_t3y-00029-00006431-00006605 office in the best interests of the 4uazfbG_t3y-00030-00006606-00006956 department on August 27 2007 effective 4uazfbG_t3y-00031-00006956-00007378 September 17 2007 in 2008 Gonzales began 4uazfbG_t3y-00032-00007379-00007609 a mediation and consulting practice 4uazfbG_t3y-00033-00007609-00007820 additionally he taught a political 4uazfbG_t3y-00034-00007820-00008017 science course and served as a diversity 4uazfbG_t3y-00035-00008018-00008257 recruiter at Texas Tech University 4uazfbG_t3y-00036-00008258-00008459 Gonzales is currently the Dean of 4uazfbG_t3y-00037-00008460-00008692 Belmont University College of Law in 4uazfbG_t3y-00038-00008693-00008819 Nashville Tennessee 4uazfbG_t3y-00039-00008820-00008933 where he currently teaches 4uazfbG_t3y-00040-00008934-00009178 constitutional law separation of powers 4uazfbG_t3y-00041-00009179-00009395 national security law in First Amendment 4uazfbG_t3y-00042-00009396-00009689 law he was formerly of counsel at a 4uazfbG_t3y-00043-00009690-00009931 Nashville based law firm Waller lanceton 4uazfbG_t3y-00044-00009932-00010181 Dortch and Davis LLP where he advised 4uazfbG_t3y-00045-00010182-00010391 clients on special matters government 4uazfbG_t3y-00046-00010392-00010694 investigations and regulatory matters he 4uazfbG_t3y-00047-00010695-00010903 often writes opinion pieces for national 4uazfbG_t3y-00048-00010904-00011110 newspapers and appears on national news 4uazfbG_t3y-00049-00011111-00011687 programs 4uazfbG_t3y-00050-00011688-00012228 topic personal life 4uazfbG_t3y-00051-00012229-00012507 Alberto Gonzales was born to a Catholic 4uazfbG_t3y-00052-00012508-00012756 family in San Antonio Texas and raised 4uazfbG_t3y-00053-00012757-00013004 in Humble a town outside of Houston of 4uazfbG_t3y-00054-00013005-00013244 Mexican descent he was the second of 4uazfbG_t3y-00055-00013246-00013463 eight children born to Maria Rodriguez 4uazfbG_t3y-00056-00013465-00013791 and Pablo M Gonzales his father who died 4uazfbG_t3y-00057-00013791-00014063 in 1982 was a migrant worker and then a 4uazfbG_t3y-00058-00014065-00014253 construction worker with a second grade 4uazfbG_t3y-00059-00014254-00014496 education his mother worked at home 4uazfbG_t3y-00060-00014497-00014685 raising eight children and had a sixth 4uazfbG_t3y-00061-00014686-00014991 grade education Gonzales and his family 4uazfbG_t3y-00062-00014991-00015213 of 10 lived in a small two-bedroom home 4uazfbG_t3y-00063-00015213-00015408 built by his father and uncles with no 4uazfbG_t3y-00064-00015409-00015613 telephone and no hot running water 4uazfbG_t3y-00065-00015615-00015852 according to Gonzalez he is unaware 4uazfbG_t3y-00066-00015853-00016110 whether immigration documentation exists 4uazfbG_t3y-00067-00016111-00016275 for three of his grandparents who were 4uazfbG_t3y-00068-00016276-00016479 born in Mexico and may have entered and 4uazfbG_t3y-00069-00016480-00016662 resided in the United States illegally 4uazfbG_t3y-00070-00016663-00016869 an honors student at MacArthur High 4uazfbG_t3y-00071-00016870-00017067 School in unincorporated Harris County 4uazfbG_t3y-00072-00017068-00017304 Gonzales enlisted in the United States 4uazfbG_t3y-00073-00017305-00017586 Air Force in 1973 for a four-year term 4uazfbG_t3y-00074-00017587-00017871 of enlistment he served one year at a 4uazfbG_t3y-00075-00017872-00018168 remote radar site with 100 other GIS at 4uazfbG_t3y-00076-00018169-00018432 Fort Yukon Alaska he was then released 4uazfbG_t3y-00077-00018433-00018708 from active duty to attend the USAF a 4uazfbG_t3y-00078-00018709-00018903 prep school after which he received an 4uazfbG_t3y-00079-00018904-00019083 appointment to the United States Air 4uazfbG_t3y-00080-00019084-00019356 Force Academy prior to beginning his 4uazfbG_t3y-00081-00019357-00019533 third year at the academy which would 4uazfbG_t3y-00082-00019534-00019671 have caused him to incur a further 4uazfbG_t3y-00083-00019672-00019902 service obligation he left the Academy 4uazfbG_t3y-00084-00019903-00020046 and was released from the enlistment 4uazfbG_t3y-00085-00020047-00020289 contract he transferred to Rice 4uazfbG_t3y-00086-00020290-00020487 University in Houston where he was a 4uazfbG_t3y-00087-00020488-00020763 resident of Lovett College he went on to 4uazfbG_t3y-00088-00020764-00020934 be selected as the Charles Park Hill 4uazfbG_t3y-00089-00020935-00021122 scholar of political science and was 4uazfbG_t3y-00090-00021123-00021318 awarded a bachelor's degree with honors 4uazfbG_t3y-00091-00021319-00021675 in political science in 1979 he then 4uazfbG_t3y-00092-00021676-00021924 earned a Juris Doctor JD degree from 4uazfbG_t3y-00093-00021925-00022329 Harvard Law School in 1982 Gonzales has 4uazfbG_t3y-00094-00022330-00022533 been married twice he and his first wife 4uazfbG_t3y-00095-00022534-00022860 Diane Clements divorced in 1985 he and 4uazfbG_t3y-00096-00022861-00023085 his second wife Rebecca Turner Gonzalez 4uazfbG_t3y-00097-00023086-00023700 have three sons 4uazfbG_t3y-00098-00023701-00024242 topic early career 4uazfbG_t3y-00099-00024243-00024456 gonzales was an attorney in private 4uazfbG_t3y-00100-00024457-00024825 practice from 1982 until 1994 with the 4uazfbG_t3y-00101-00024826-00025065 Houston law firm Vinson & Elkins where 4uazfbG_t3y-00102-00025066-00025233 he became a partner one of the first 4uazfbG_t3y-00103-00025234-00025437 Hispanic partners in its history and 4uazfbG_t3y-00104-00025438-00025619 where he worked primarily with corporate 4uazfbG_t3y-00105-00025620-00025956 clients in 1994 he was named general 4uazfbG_t3y-00106-00025957-00026211 counsel to then Texas Governor George W 4uazfbG_t3y-00107-00026212-00026463 Bush rising to become secretary of state 4uazfbG_t3y-00108-00026464-00026772 of Texas in 1997 and subsequently named 4uazfbG_t3y-00109-00026773-00027063 to the Texas Supreme Court in 1999 both 4uazfbG_t3y-00110-00027064-00027275 appointments made by Governor Bush 4uazfbG_t3y-00111-00027276-00027522 Gonzales won his election bid to remain 4uazfbG_t3y-00112-00027523-00027711 on the court in the Republican primary 4uazfbG_t3y-00113-00027712-00027957 in 2000 and was subsequently elected to 4uazfbG_t3y-00114-00027958-00028125 a full six-year term on the state 4uazfbG_t3y-00115-00028126-00028338 Supreme Court in the November 2000 4uazfbG_t3y-00116-00028339-00028923 general election 4uazfbG_t3y-00117-00028924-00029450 topic recognition 4uazfbG_t3y-00118-00029451-00029649 gonzales has been active in the 4uazfbG_t3y-00119-00029650-00029858 community serving as board director or 4uazfbG_t3y-00120-00029860-00030054 committee member for several nonprofit 4uazfbG_t3y-00121-00030055-00030425 organizations between 1985 and 1994 in 4uazfbG_t3y-00122-00030426-00030747 the legal sphere Gonzales provided pro 4uazfbG_t3y-00123-00030748-00030933 bono legal services to the host 4uazfbG_t3y-00124-00030933-00031176 committee for the 1992 Republican 4uazfbG_t3y-00125-00031177-00031352 National Convention in Houston 4uazfbG_t3y-00126-00031354-00031539 acted as a board director for the State 4uazfbG_t3y-00127-00031539-00031902 Bar of Texas from 1991 to 1994 and was 4uazfbG_t3y-00128-00031902-00032064 board trustee of the Texas bar 4uazfbG_t3y-00129-00032064-00032481 foundation from 1996 to 1999 he has 4uazfbG_t3y-00130-00032482-00032673 received numerous professional honors 4uazfbG_t3y-00131-00032674-00032898 including the Presidential Citation from 4uazfbG_t3y-00132-00032899-00033177 the State Bar of Texas in 1997 for his 4uazfbG_t3y-00133-00033178-00033369 dedication to addressing basic legal 4uazfbG_t3y-00134-00033370-00033708 needs of the indigent in 1999 he was 4uazfbG_t3y-00135-00033709-00033891 named Latino lawyer of the Year by the 4uazfbG_t3y-00136-00033892-00034148 Hispanic national Bar Association 4uazfbG_t3y-00137-00034149-00034545 between 2002 and 2003 Gonzales was 4uazfbG_t3y-00138-00034546-00034761 recognized as a distinguished alumnus of 4uazfbG_t3y-00139-00034762-00034983 Rice University and received the Harvard 4uazfbG_t3y-00140-00034984-00035223 Law School Association award John been 4uazfbG_t3y-00141-00035224-00035399 Shepard public Leadership Institute 4uazfbG_t3y-00142-00035400-00035667 outstanding Texas leader award United 4uazfbG_t3y-00143-00035668-00035841 States Hispanic Chamber of Commerce 4uazfbG_t3y-00144-00035842-00036054 President's Award League of United Latin 4uazfbG_t3y-00145-00036055-00036309 American citizens President's Award the 4uazfbG_t3y-00146-00036310-00036483 Garry Elle McPherson Distinguished 4uazfbG_t3y-00147-00036484-00036711 Alumni Award from the American Council 4uazfbG_t3y-00148-00036712-00036867 of young political leaders the 4uazfbG_t3y-00149-00036868-00037032 Chairman's Leadership Award from the 4uazfbG_t3y-00150-00037033-00037278 Texas Association of Mexican American 4uazfbG_t3y-00151-00037279-00037458 Chamber of Commerce the Hispanic 4uazfbG_t3y-00152-00037459-00037656 scholarship funds true and Fodor award 4uazfbG_t3y-00153-00037657-00037848 the Hispanic hero award from the 4uazfbG_t3y-00154-00037849-00038033 Association for the Advancement of 4uazfbG_t3y-00155-00038034-00038208 mexican-americans the good neighbor 4uazfbG_t3y-00156-00038209-00038421 award from the United States Mexican 4uazfbG_t3y-00157-00038422-00038595 Chamber of Commerce and the Lifetime 4uazfbG_t3y-00158-00038596-00038757 Achievement Award from the Travis County 4uazfbG_t3y-00159-00038758-00039189 Texas Republican Party in 2004 Gonzales 4uazfbG_t3y-00160-00039190-00039348 was honored with the exemplary leader 4uazfbG_t3y-00161-00039349-00039564 award by the Houston American Leadership 4uazfbG_t3y-00162-00039565-00039786 Forum and in 2005 with the Hector 4uazfbG_t3y-00163-00039787-00040035 burrito senior award by the Latino 4uazfbG_t3y-00164-00040036-00040236 coalition and with a President's Award 4uazfbG_t3y-00165-00040237-00040452 by the US Hispanic Chamber of Commerce 4uazfbG_t3y-00166-00040453-00040776 as the son of former migrant workers 4uazfbG_t3y-00167-00040777-00041013 many recognized Gonzales appointment as 4uazfbG_t3y-00168-00041014-00041229 Attorney General of the United States as 4uazfbG_t3y-00169-00041230-00041400 the embodiment of the American dream 4uazfbG_t3y-00170-00041401-00041676 his professional achievements in work in 4uazfbG_t3y-00171-00041677-00041829 the Hispanic community earned him 4uazfbG_t3y-00172-00041830-00042042 recognition as Hispanic American of the 4uazfbG_t3y-00173-00042043-00042321 Year by Hispanic magazine in 2005 and 4uazfbG_t3y-00174-00042322-00042582 one of the 25 most influential Hispanics 4uazfbG_t3y-00175-00042583-00042780 in America by Time magazine 4uazfbG_t3y-00176-00042781-00043030 gonzales was inducted into the class of 4uazfbG_t3y-00177-00043031-00043299 2005 in the Academy of achievement 4uazfbG_t3y-00178-00043300-00043517 gonzales received the distinguished 4uazfbG_t3y-00179-00043518-00043771 leadership award in 2006 from leadership 4uazfbG_t3y-00180-00043772-00044096 houston in 2007 as he left government 4uazfbG_t3y-00181-00044097-00044267 service he was honored with the 4uazfbG_t3y-00182-00044268-00044429 directors award from the Central 4uazfbG_t3y-00183-00044430-00044630 Intelligence Agency and the office of 4uazfbG_t3y-00184-00044631-00044815 the secretary of defense medal for 4uazfbG_t3y-00185-00044816-00045137 exceptional public service on May 20th 4uazfbG_t3y-00186-00045138-00045424 2006 Houston Mayor Bill White proclaimed 4uazfbG_t3y-00187-00045425-00045796 Alberto R Gonzales day in Houston for 4uazfbG_t3y-00188-00045797-00045974 his contributions to the betterment of 4uazfbG_t3y-00189-00045975-00046205 the city of Houston academic 4uazfbG_t3y-00190-00046206-00046393 institutions have also recognized 4uazfbG_t3y-00191-00046394-00046633 Gonzales achievements he received an 4uazfbG_t3y-00192-00046634-00046918 honorary Doctor of Laws in 2002 from the 4uazfbG_t3y-00193-00046919-00047120 Catholic University of America an 4uazfbG_t3y-00194-00047121-00047330 honorary degree in Arts and Letters in 4uazfbG_t3y-00195-00047331-00047621 2003 from miami-dade Community College 4uazfbG_t3y-00196-00047622-00047836 an honorary degree of Doctor of Laws in 4uazfbG_t3y-00197-00047837-00048118 2005 from the University of District of 4uazfbG_t3y-00198-00048119-00048349 Columbia an honorary degree in Associate 4uazfbG_t3y-00199-00048350-00048583 of Arts in 2005 from the Houston 4uazfbG_t3y-00200-00048584-00048776 Community College System and an honorary 4uazfbG_t3y-00201-00048777-00049046 alumnus award in 2007 from Southern 4uazfbG_t3y-00202-00049047-00049667 Methodist University 4uazfbG_t3y-00203-00049668-00050271 topic council to Governor Bush 4uazfbG_t3y-00204-00050272-00050539 as counseled to Governor Bush gonzales 4uazfbG_t3y-00205-00050540-00050707 helped advise Bush in connection with 4uazfbG_t3y-00206-00050708-00050989 jury duty when he was called in a 1996 4uazfbG_t3y-00207-00050990-00051274 Travis County drunk driving case the 4uazfbG_t3y-00208-00051275-00051465 case led to controversy during Bush's 4uazfbG_t3y-00209-00051466-00051708 2000 presidential campaign because 4uazfbG_t3y-00210-00051709-00051904 Bush's answers to the potential juror 4uazfbG_t3y-00211-00051904-00052099 questionnaire did not disclose Bush's 4uazfbG_t3y-00212-00052100-00052380 own 1976 misdemeanor drunk driving 4uazfbG_t3y-00213-00052382-00052656 conviction Gonzales made no formal 4uazfbG_t3y-00214-00052657-00052866 request for Bush to be excused from jury 4uazfbG_t3y-00215-00052867-00053088 duty but raised a possible conflict of 4uazfbG_t3y-00216-00053089-00053272 interest because as the governor Bush 4uazfbG_t3y-00217-00053273-00053422 might be called upon to pardon the 4uazfbG_t3y-00218-00053423-00053716 accused party gonzales work in this case 4uazfbG_t3y-00219-00053716-00053982 has been described as canny lawyering as 4uazfbG_t3y-00220-00053983-00054250 Governor Bush's counsel in Texas 4uazfbG_t3y-00221-00054251-00054454 Gonzales also reviewed all clemency 4uazfbG_t3y-00222-00054454-00054787 requests a 2003 article in The Atlantic 4uazfbG_t3y-00223-00054788-00055021 Monthly asserted that Gonzales gave 4uazfbG_t3y-00224-00055022-00055200 insufficient counsel and failed to 4uazfbG_t3y-00225-00055201-00055372 second-guess convictions and failed 4uazfbG_t3y-00226-00055373-00055656 Appeals Gonzales deputy general counsel 4uazfbG_t3y-00227-00055657-00056094 from 1995 to 1999 Pete wass Dorf in turn 4uazfbG_t3y-00228-00056095-00056278 sought to defend Gonzales from what he 4uazfbG_t3y-00229-00056279-00056446 characterized as an inaccurate and 4uazfbG_t3y-00230-00056447-00056601 incomplete picture of the clemency 4uazfbG_t3y-00231-00056602-00056896 process under Bush under Section 2 4uazfbG_t3y-00232-00056897-00057162 article 4 of the Texas Constitution the 4uazfbG_t3y-00233-00057163-00057340 governor cannot grant a pardon or 4uazfbG_t3y-00234-00057341-00057499 commute a death sentence except with a 4uazfbG_t3y-00235-00057500-00057693 majority vote recommendation of the 4uazfbG_t3y-00236-00057694-00057918 Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles so 4uazfbG_t3y-00237-00057919-00058068 Bush was constrained in granting 4uazfbG_t3y-00238-00058069-00058275 clemency even if he had wanted to do so 4uazfbG_t3y-00239-00058276-00058573 in a case the fact remains that only one 4uazfbG_t3y-00240-00058574-00058735 death sentence was overturned by 4uazfbG_t3y-00241-00058736-00058932 Governor Bush and the state of Texas 4uazfbG_t3y-00242-00058933-00059091 executed more prisoners during 4uazfbG_t3y-00243-00059092-00059796 Gonzalez's term than any other state 4uazfbG_t3y-00244-00059797-00060359 topic White House Council 4uazfbG_t3y-00245-00060360-00060596 as White House Counsel and later as 4uazfbG_t3y-00246-00060597-00060698 Attorney General 4uazfbG_t3y-00247-00060699-00060913 Gonzalez served President George W Bush 4uazfbG_t3y-00248-00060914-00061087 through a period of escalating 4uazfbG_t3y-00249-00061088-00061298 controversy over the legality of US 4uazfbG_t3y-00250-00061299-00061530 policies in the fight against terrorism 4uazfbG_t3y-00251-00061531-00061741 Gonzales approved the legal framework 4uazfbG_t3y-00252-00061742-00061949 for the administration's anti-terrorism 4uazfbG_t3y-00253-00061950-00062179 efforts and was a reliable advocate for 4uazfbG_t3y-00254-00062180-00062299 White House policy 4uazfbG_t3y-00255-00062300-00062566 he supported positions that enlarge the 4uazfbG_t3y-00256-00062567-00062747 power of the executive and diminished 4uazfbG_t3y-00257-00062748-00062972 protections for interrogation subjects 4uazfbG_t3y-00258-00062973-00063248 these rulings were vocally challenged by 4uazfbG_t3y-00259-00063249-00063463 many scholars and human rights advocates 4uazfbG_t3y-00260-00063464-00063651 and were partly overturned by the courts 4uazfbG_t3y-00261-00063652-00063953 he resigned following sharp criticism of 4uazfbG_t3y-00262-00063954-00064148 his handling of the firing of nine US 4uazfbG_t3y-00263-00064149-00064337 attorneys and subsequent testimony 4uazfbG_t3y-00264-00064338-00064964 during congressional hearings 4uazfbG_t3y-00265-00064965-00065582 topic dismissal of US attorneys 4uazfbG_t3y-00266-00065583-00065851 by law US attorneys are appointed for a 4uazfbG_t3y-00267-00065852-00066074 term of four years and each US attorney 4uazfbG_t3y-00268-00066075-00066257 serves at the pleasure of the president 4uazfbG_t3y-00269-00066258-00066410 and a subject to removal by the 4uazfbG_t3y-00270-00066411-00066632 president for any and no reason so long 4uazfbG_t3y-00271-00066633-00066797 as it is not for an illegal or improper 4uazfbG_t3y-00272-00066798-00067088 reason when gonzales became Attorney 4uazfbG_t3y-00273-00067089-00067381 General in 2005 he ordered a performance 4uazfbG_t3y-00274-00067382-00067748 review of all US attorneys on December 7 4uazfbG_t3y-00275-00067749-00068048 2006 seven United States attorneys were 4uazfbG_t3y-00276-00068049-00068234 notified by the United States Department 4uazfbG_t3y-00277-00068235-00068405 of Justice that they were being 4uazfbG_t3y-00278-00068406-00068579 dismissed after the George W Bush 4uazfbG_t3y-00279-00068580-00068788 administration sought their resignation 4uazfbG_t3y-00280-00068789-00069041 one more blood cummins who had been 4uazfbG_t3y-00281-00069042-00069305 informed of his dismissal in June 2006 4uazfbG_t3y-00282-00069306-00069560 announced his resignation on December 15 4uazfbG_t3y-00283-00069561-00069929 2006 effective December 20th 2006 upon 4uazfbG_t3y-00284-00069930-00070081 being notified of Tim Griffin's 4uazfbG_t3y-00285-00070082-00070274 appointment as interim US attorney for 4uazfbG_t3y-00286-00070275-00070535 the Eastern District of Arkansas in the 4uazfbG_t3y-00287-00070536-00070736 subsequent congressional hearings and 4uazfbG_t3y-00288-00070737-00070928 press reports it was disclosed that 4uazfbG_t3y-00289-00070929-00071087 additional US attorneys were 4uazfbG_t3y-00290-00071088-00071228 controversially dismissed without 4uazfbG_t3y-00291-00071229-00071531 explanation to the dismiss e in 2005 in 4uazfbG_t3y-00292-00071532-00071861 2006 and that at least 26 US attorneys 4uazfbG_t3y-00293-00071862-00072041 were at various times considered for 4uazfbG_t3y-00294-00072042-00072350 dismissal although US attorneys can be 4uazfbG_t3y-00295-00072351-00072494 dismissed at the discretion of the 4uazfbG_t3y-00296-00072495-00072662 President critics claimed that the 4uazfbG_t3y-00297-00072663-00072832 dismissals were either motivated by 4uazfbG_t3y-00298-00072833-00073046 desire to install attorneys more loyal 4uazfbG_t3y-00299-00073047-00073340 to the Republican Party loyal Bush's in 4uazfbG_t3y-00300-00073341-00073606 the words of Kyle Sampson Gonzalez's 4uazfbG_t3y-00301-00073607-00073813 former chief of staff or as retribution 4uazfbG_t3y-00302-00073814-00074056 for actions or inactions damaging to the 4uazfbG_t3y-00303-00074057-00074338 Republican Party at least six of the 4uazfbG_t3y-00304-00074339-00074501 eight had received positive performance 4uazfbG_t3y-00305-00074502-00074767 reviews at the Department of Justice 4uazfbG_t3y-00306-00074768-00075062 however DOJ officials will most skele 4uazfbG_t3y-00307-00075063-00075290 and Monica Goodling both testified under 4uazfbG_t3y-00308-00075291-00075506 oath that year's evaluations are office 4uazfbG_t3y-00309-00075507-00075701 wide reviews they are not reviews of the 4uazfbG_t3y-00310-00075702-00075899 US Attorney's themselves gonzales 4uazfbG_t3y-00311-00075900-00076051 testified under oath that year's 4uazfbG_t3y-00312-00076052-00076268 evaluations do not necessarily reflect 4uazfbG_t3y-00313-00076269-00076574 on the US attorney in other words these 4uazfbG_t3y-00314-00076575-00076766 reviews were not evaluations of the 4uazfbG_t3y-00315-00076767-00076922 performance of the fired federal 4uazfbG_t3y-00316-00076923-00077240 prosecutors in a press conference given 4uazfbG_t3y-00317-00077241-00077350 on March 13th 4uazfbG_t3y-00318-00077351-00077591 Gonzales suggested that incomplete 4uazfbG_t3y-00319-00077592-00077831 information was communicated or may have 4uazfbG_t3y-00320-00077832-00078173 been communicated to the Congress and he 4uazfbG_t3y-00321-00078174-00078421 accepted full responsibility nonetheless 4uazfbG_t3y-00322-00078422-00078638 Gonzales avowed that his knowledge of 4uazfbG_t3y-00323-00078639-00078866 the process to fire and select new US 4uazfbG_t3y-00324-00078867-00078959 attorneys was 4uazfbG_t3y-00325-00078960-00079162 to how the US attorneys may have been 4uazfbG_t3y-00326-00079163-00079387 classified as strong performers not as 4uazfbG_t3y-00327-00079388-00079684 strong performers and we performers 4uazfbG_t3y-00328-00079685-00079967 Gonzales also asserted that was all he 4uazfbG_t3y-00329-00079968-00080305 knew of the process saying that I was 4uazfbG_t3y-00330-00080306-00080524 not involved in seeing any memos was not 4uazfbG_t3y-00331-00080525-00080713 involved in any discussions about what 4uazfbG_t3y-00332-00080714-00080788 was going on 4uazfbG_t3y-00333-00080789-00081011 that's basically what I knew is the 4uazfbG_t3y-00334-00081012-00081112 Attorney General 4uazfbG_t3y-00335-00081113-00081374 however Department of Justice records 4uazfbG_t3y-00336-00081375-00081619 released on March 23rd appeared to 4uazfbG_t3y-00337-00081620-00081763 contradict some of the Attorney 4uazfbG_t3y-00338-00081764-00082010 General's assertions indicating that on 4uazfbG_t3y-00339-00082011-00082391 his November 27th schedule he attended 4uazfbG_t3y-00340-00082392-00082576 an hour-long meeting at which aides said 4uazfbG_t3y-00341-00082577-00082736 he approved a detailed plan for 4uazfbG_t3y-00342-00082737-00082882 executing the purge 4uazfbG_t3y-00343-00082883-00083078 despite insisting that he was not 4uazfbG_t3y-00344-00083079-00083374 involved in the deliberations leading up 4uazfbG_t3y-00345-00083375-00083561 to the firing of the attorneys newly 4uazfbG_t3y-00346-00083562-00083786 released emails also suggest that he had 4uazfbG_t3y-00347-00083787-00083948 indeed been notified and that he had 4uazfbG_t3y-00348-00083949-00084232 given ultimate approval in his prepared 4uazfbG_t3y-00349-00084233-00084548 testimony to Congress on April 19 2007 4uazfbG_t3y-00350-00084549-00084793 Gonzales insisted he left the decisions 4uazfbG_t3y-00351-00084794-00085126 on the firings to his staff however ABC 4uazfbG_t3y-00352-00085127-00085324 News obtained an internal Department 4uazfbG_t3y-00353-00085325-00085529 email showing that Gonzales urged the 4uazfbG_t3y-00354-00085530-00085721 ouster of Carole lamb one of the fired 4uazfbG_t3y-00355-00085722-00085912 attorneys six months before she was 4uazfbG_t3y-00356-00085913-00086212 asked to leave during actual testimony 4uazfbG_t3y-00357-00086213-00086455 on April 19th Gonzales stated at least 4uazfbG_t3y-00358-00086456-00086687 71 times that he couldn't recall events 4uazfbG_t3y-00359-00086688-00086926 related to the controversy his response 4uazfbG_t3y-00360-00086927-00087100 is frustrated the Democrats on the 4uazfbG_t3y-00361-00087101-00087310 committee as well as several Republicans 4uazfbG_t3y-00362-00087311-00087613 one example of such frustration came in 4uazfbG_t3y-00363-00087614-00087785 an exchange between Senator Jeff 4uazfbG_t3y-00364-00087786-00087982 Sessions of Alabama and Gonzales 4uazfbG_t3y-00365-00087983-00088240 regarding in November 2006 meeting 4uazfbG_t3y-00366-00088241-00088466 sessions is one of the most conservative 4uazfbG_t3y-00367-00088467-00088657 members of the Senate and was one of the 4uazfbG_t3y-00368-00088658-00088955 Bush administration staunchest allies at 4uazfbG_t3y-00369-00088956-00089137 the meeting the attorney firings were 4uazfbG_t3y-00370-00089138-00089372 purportedly discussed but Gonzales did 4uazfbG_t3y-00371-00089373-00089654 not remember such discussion as reported 4uazfbG_t3y-00372-00089655-00089873 by the Washington Post the dialogue went 4uazfbG_t3y-00373-00089874-00090221 as follows Gonzales well senator putting 4uazfbG_t3y-00374-00090222-00090440 aside the issue of course sometimes 4uazfbG_t3y-00375-00090441-00090619 people's recollections are different I 4uazfbG_t3y-00376-00090620-00090803 have no reason to doubt mr. bottles 4uazfbG_t3y-00377-00090804-00091038 testimony about the November meeting 4uazfbG_t3y-00378-00091039-00091294 sessions well I guess I'm concerned 4uazfbG_t3y-00379-00091295-00091474 about your recollection really because 4uazfbG_t3y-00380-00091475-00091705 it's not that long ago it was an 4uazfbG_t3y-00381-00091706-00091942 important issue and that's troubling to 4uazfbG_t3y-00382-00091943-00092309 me I've got to tell you Gonzales senator 4uazfbG_t3y-00383-00092310-00092432 I went back and looked at my calendar 4uazfbG_t3y-00384-00092433-00092756 for that week I traveled to Mexico for 4uazfbG_t3y-00385-00092757-00092972 the inauguration of the new president we 4uazfbG_t3y-00386-00092973-00093203 had national meth awareness day we were 4uazfbG_t3y-00387-00093204-00093383 working on a very complicated issue 4uazfbG_t3y-00388-00093384-00093812 relating to CFIUS Gonzales and so there 4uazfbG_t3y-00389-00093813-00093986 were a lot of other weighty issues and 4uazfbG_t3y-00390-00093987-00094124 matters that I was dealing with that 4uazfbG_t3y-00391-00094125-00094448 week another example came when Senator 4uazfbG_t3y-00392-00094449-00094631 Chuck Schumer of New York who had been 4uazfbG_t3y-00393-00094632-00094832 the first lawmaker to call for Gonzales 4uazfbG_t3y-00394-00094833-00095054 ouster declined to ask his last round of 4uazfbG_t3y-00395-00095055-00095330 questions instead a visibly angry 4uazfbG_t3y-00396-00095331-00095507 Schumer said there was no point to 4uazfbG_t3y-00397-00095508-00095693 further questioning and reiterated his 4uazfbG_t3y-00398-00095694-00095987 call for Gonzales to resign by Schumer's 4uazfbG_t3y-00399-00095988-00096263 count Gonzales had stated over a hundred 4uazfbG_t3y-00400-00096264-00096497 times that he didn't know or couldn't 4uazfbG_t3y-00401-00096498-00096710 recall important details concerning the 4uazfbG_t3y-00402-00096711-00096920 firings and also didn't seem to know 4uazfbG_t3y-00403-00096921-00097129 about the workings of his own department 4uazfbG_t3y-00404-00097130-00097370 Gonzales responded that the onus was on 4uazfbG_t3y-00405-00097371-00097547 the committee to prove whether anything 4uazfbG_t3y-00406-00097548-00097817 improper occurred Schumer replied that 4uazfbG_t3y-00407-00097818-00098015 Gonzales faced a higher standard and 4uazfbG_t3y-00408-00098016-00098180 that under this standard he had to give 4uazfbG_t3y-00409-00098181-00098408 a full complete and convincing 4uazfbG_t3y-00410-00098409-00098672 explanation for why the eight attorneys 4uazfbG_t3y-00411-00098673-00098837 were fired both Democrats and 4uazfbG_t3y-00412-00098838-00099044 Republicans were critical of Gonzales 4uazfbG_t3y-00413-00099045-00099245 testimony to Congress which was widely 4uazfbG_t3y-00414-00099246-00099437 regarded as exhibiting greater loyalty 4uazfbG_t3y-00415-00099438-00099719 to President Bush than to the truth with 4uazfbG_t3y-00416-00099720-00099905 increasing numbers of senators calling 4uazfbG_t3y-00417-00099906-00100112 for him to go Gonzales resigned as 4uazfbG_t3y-00418-00100113-00100361 Attorney General effective September 17 4uazfbG_t3y-00419-00100362-00100649 2007 the Inspector General in the Office 4uazfbG_t3y-00420-00100650-00100868 of Professional Responsibility commenced 4uazfbG_t3y-00421-00100869-00101048 an investigation into the removal of 4uazfbG_t3y-00422-00101049-00101264 nine US Attorney's and issued a report 4uazfbG_t3y-00423-00101265-00101588 in September 2008 the report cited 4uazfbG_t3y-00424-00101589-00101750 serious issues of accountability 4uazfbG_t3y-00425-00101751-00101993 removing a few of the US Attorney's but 4uazfbG_t3y-00426-00101994-00102164 there was no finding that the nine US 4uazfbG_t3y-00427-00102165-00102353 attorneys were removed for illegal or 4uazfbG_t3y-00428-00102354-00102629 improper reasons to the contrary the 4uazfbG_t3y-00429-00102630-00102827 report concluded that Margaret Chiara 4uazfbG_t3y-00430-00102828-00102977 and clevon Ryan were removed 4uazfbG_t3y-00431-00102978-00103258 appropriately for management issues Paul 4uazfbG_t3y-00432-00103259-00103445 Charlton was removed for his action 4uazfbG_t3y-00433-00103446-00103636 relating to a death penalty case and 4uazfbG_t3y-00434-00103638-00103808 unilateral implementation of an 4uazfbG_t3y-00435-00103808-00104090 interrogation policy the report found 4uazfbG_t3y-00436-00104091-00104282 Carole lamb was removed because of the 4uazfbG_t3y-00437-00104283-00104480 Justice Department's concerns about the 4uazfbG_t3y-00438-00104481-00104645 low number of gun and immigration 4uazfbG_t3y-00439-00104646-00104930 prosecutions in her district the report 4uazfbG_t3y-00440-00104931-00105140 concluded John Mackay was asked to leave 4uazfbG_t3y-00441-00105141-00105302 because of his disagreement with the 4uazfbG_t3y-00442-00105303-00105470 Deputy Attorney General over an 4uazfbG_t3y-00443-00105471-00105648 information sharing program 4uazfbG_t3y-00444-00105649-00105873 the report could not cite to a reason 4uazfbG_t3y-00445-00105874-00106071 dan Bogdan was asked to leave but there 4uazfbG_t3y-00446-00106072-00106269 was no finding that anything illegal or 4uazfbG_t3y-00447-00106270-00106518 improper occurred with his removal the 4uazfbG_t3y-00448-00106519-00106740 report concluded bud Cummins was asked 4uazfbG_t3y-00449-00106741-00106875 to leave to make room for another 4uazfbG_t3y-00450-00106876-00107028 political appointee that he himself 4uazfbG_t3y-00451-00107029-00107258 conceded under oath was qualified to 4uazfbG_t3y-00452-00107259-00107526 serve as a US Attorney these findings 4uazfbG_t3y-00453-00107527-00107727 were consistent with testimony given by 4uazfbG_t3y-00454-00107728-00107994 Gonzalez politics was clearly involved 4uazfbG_t3y-00455-00107995-00108216 the report also concluded Todd graves 4uazfbG_t3y-00456-00108217-00108396 was removed to settle a political 4uazfbG_t3y-00457-00108397-00108608 dispute in Missouri which was motivated 4uazfbG_t3y-00458-00108609-00108888 by politics the report found that it 4uazfbG_t3y-00459-00108889-00109077 could not conclude that David Iglesias 4uazfbG_t3y-00460-00109078-00109261 was removed for an improper reason 4uazfbG_t3y-00461-00109263-00109563 however since the IG had no authority to 4uazfbG_t3y-00462-00109564-00109764 investigate Congress or the White House 4uazfbG_t3y-00463-00109765-00110033 the IG asked Attorney General mucousy to 4uazfbG_t3y-00464-00110034-00110193 appoint a special prosecutor to 4uazfbG_t3y-00465-00110194-00110472 investigate the iglesias removal this 4uazfbG_t3y-00466-00110473-00110658 special prosecutor found no wrongdoing 4uazfbG_t3y-00467-00110658-00111021 in the removal of David Iglesias the DOJ 4uazfbG_t3y-00468-00111022-00111236 IG found no criminal wrongdoing in the 4uazfbG_t3y-00469-00111238-00111492 records as the Wall Street Journal 4uazfbG_t3y-00470-00111493-00111741 reported the Justice Department informed 4uazfbG_t3y-00471-00111742-00111986 Congress on Wednesday that a special 4uazfbG_t3y-00472-00111988-00112197 investigator in the case found no 4uazfbG_t3y-00473-00112198-00112406 evidence of wrongdoing 4uazfbG_t3y-00474-00112407-00112736 the investigators final word is that no 4uazfbG_t3y-00475-00112738-00112938 administration official gave false 4uazfbG_t3y-00476-00112939-00113159 statements to Congress or to the DOJ 4uazfbG_t3y-00477-00113160-00113388 inspector general which carried out 4uazfbG_t3y-00478-00113389-00113708 their own investigation in particular 4uazfbG_t3y-00479-00113709-00113889 the report found no evidence that 4uazfbG_t3y-00480-00113890-00114042 Gonzales made false or misleading 4uazfbG_t3y-00481-00114043-00114282 statements to Congress thus clearing him 4uazfbG_t3y-00482-00114283-00114540 of accusations of perjury the IG report 4uazfbG_t3y-00483-00114541-00114710 did find that some statements made by 4uazfbG_t3y-00484-00114711-00115020 Gonzales at a March 13th 2007 press 4uazfbG_t3y-00485-00115021-00115182 conference about his involvement were 4uazfbG_t3y-00486-00115183-00115449 inaccurate the report however does not 4uazfbG_t3y-00487-00115450-00115626 conclude that Gonzales deliberately 4uazfbG_t3y-00488-00115627-00115875 provided false information he 4uazfbG_t3y-00489-00115876-00116043 acknowledged from the outset his Mis 4uazfbG_t3y-00490-00116044-00116283 statements accepted responsibility and 4uazfbG_t3y-00491-00116283-00116408 attempted to set the record straight 4uazfbG_t3y-00492-00116409-00116640 well before congressional testimony on 4uazfbG_t3y-00493-00116641-00117057 April 19 2007 gonzales testified 18 4uazfbG_t3y-00494-00117058-00117258 months before the IG reports that 4uazfbG_t3y-00495-00117258-00117438 statements he made at the March 13th 4uazfbG_t3y-00496-00117439-00117666 2007 press conference were missed 4uazfbG_t3y-00497-00117667-00117924 statements and were overboard further in 4uazfbG_t3y-00498-00117925-00118089 his written statement to the Senate 4uazfbG_t3y-00499-00118090-00118341 Judiciary Committee presented April 19th 4uazfbG_t3y-00500-00118342-00118446 2007 4uazfbG_t3y-00501-00118447-00118695 Gonzales wrote I misspoke at a press 4uazfbG_t3y-00502-00118696-00118934 conference on March 13th when I said 4uazfbG_t3y-00503-00118935-00119031 that I 4uazfbG_t3y-00504-00119032-00119261 was not involved in any discussions 4uazfbG_t3y-00505-00119263-00119481 about what was going on quote that 4uazfbG_t3y-00506-00119482-00119741 statement was too broad at that same 4uazfbG_t3y-00507-00119742-00119978 press conference I made clear that I was 4uazfbG_t3y-00508-00119979-00120318 aware of the process I said I knew my 4uazfbG_t3y-00509-00120319-00120498 chief of staff was involved in the 4uazfbG_t3y-00510-00120499-00120681 process of determining who were the weak 4uazfbG_t3y-00511-00120682-00120849 performers where were the districts 4uazfbG_t3y-00512-00120850-00120993 around the country where we could do 4uazfbG_t3y-00513-00120994-00121170 better for the people in that district 4uazfbG_t3y-00514-00121171-00121383 and that's what I knew quote dot of 4uazfbG_t3y-00515-00121383-00121647 course I knew about the process because 4uazfbG_t3y-00516-00121648-00121862 of at a minimum these discussions with 4uazfbG_t3y-00517-00121863-00121968 mr. Sampson 4uazfbG_t3y-00518-00121969-00122384 thus my statement about discussions was 4uazfbG_t3y-00519-00122385-00122603 imprecise and overboard but it certainly 4uazfbG_t3y-00520-00122604-00122858 was not in any way an attempt to mislead 4uazfbG_t3y-00521-00122859-00123129 the American people 4uazfbG_t3y-00522-00123130-00123426 in August 2009 White House documents 4uazfbG_t3y-00523-00123427-00123570 released showed that rove raised 4uazfbG_t3y-00524-00123571-00123792 concerns directly with gonzales and that 4uazfbG_t3y-00525-00123793-00123990 demenna chi or an intermediary may have 4uazfbG_t3y-00526-00123991-00124170 contacted the Justice Department as 4uazfbG_t3y-00527-00124171-00124385 early as 2005 to complain 4uazfbG_t3y-00528-00124386-00124671 in contrast Gonzales told the Senate 4uazfbG_t3y-00529-00124672-00124956 Judiciary Committee in 2007 I don't 4uazfbG_t3y-00530-00124957-00125166 recall 4uazfbG_t3y-00531-00125167-00125430 senator Domenici ever requesting that 4uazfbG_t3y-00532-00125431-00125805 mr. Iglesias be removed in July 2010 4uazfbG_t3y-00533-00125806-00126054 Department of Justice prosecutors closed 4uazfbG_t3y-00534-00126055-00126225 the two-year investigation without 4uazfbG_t3y-00535-00126226-00126414 filing charges after determining that 4uazfbG_t3y-00536-00126415-00126608 the firings were not criminal saying 4uazfbG_t3y-00537-00126609-00126807 evidence did not demonstrate that any 4uazfbG_t3y-00538-00126808-00126993 prosecutable criminal offense was 4uazfbG_t3y-00539-00126994-00127170 committed with regard to the removal of 4uazfbG_t3y-00540-00127171-00127440 David Iglesias the investigative team 4uazfbG_t3y-00541-00127441-00127653 also determined that the evidence did 4uazfbG_t3y-00542-00127654-00127830 not warrant expanding the scope of the 4uazfbG_t3y-00543-00127831-00128004 investigation beyond the removal of 4uazfbG_t3y-00544-00128005-00128557 Iglesias 4uazfbG_t3y-00545-00128558-00128874 topic right to rid of habeas corpus in 4uazfbG_t3y-00546-00128875-00129339 the US Constitution 4uazfbG_t3y-00547-00129340-00129658 Gonzales helped draft the January 2002 4uazfbG_t3y-00548-00129658-00129865 presidential order which authorized the 4uazfbG_t3y-00549-00129866-00130039 use of military tribunals to try 4uazfbG_t3y-00550-00130040-00130357 terrorist suspects the order arrogated 4uazfbG_t3y-00551-00130358-00130533 to the president the power to hold any 4uazfbG_t3y-00552-00130534-00130744 non citizen who he deemed a terrorist or 4uazfbG_t3y-00553-00130745-00130959 accessory to a terrorist in military 4uazfbG_t3y-00554-00130960-00131179 detention and subject to trial before a 4uazfbG_t3y-00555-00131180-00131446 military commission subsequently the 4uazfbG_t3y-00556-00131447-00131695 United States Department of Defense DoD 4uazfbG_t3y-00557-00131696-00131959 organized military tribunals to judge 4uazfbG_t3y-00558-00131960-00132136 charges against enemy combatant 4uazfbG_t3y-00559-00132137-00132334 detainees being held at Guantanamo Bay 4uazfbG_t3y-00560-00132335-00132631 detention camp in the early years the 4uazfbG_t3y-00561-00132632-00132829 camp authorities did not allow foreign 4uazfbG_t3y-00562-00132830-00133018 detainees access to attorneys or 4uazfbG_t3y-00563-00133019-00133225 materials supporting their charges and 4uazfbG_t3y-00564-00133226-00133408 the executive branch declared them 4uazfbG_t3y-00565-00133409-00133591 outside the reach of due process under 4uazfbG_t3y-00566-00133592-00134035 habeas corpus in Rasul V Bush 2004 the 4uazfbG_t3y-00567-00134036-00134221 US Supreme Court ruled that they did 4uazfbG_t3y-00568-00134222-00134419 have rights to habeas corpus and had to 4uazfbG_t3y-00569-00134420-00134647 be provided access to legal counsel and 4uazfbG_t3y-00570-00134648-00134800 an opportunity to challenge their 4uazfbG_t3y-00571-00134801-00135006 detention before an impartial tribunal 4uazfbG_t3y-00572-00135007-00135370 further in 2006 the Supreme Court ruled 4uazfbG_t3y-00573-00135371-00135637 in hand and V Rumsfeld that trying 4uazfbG_t3y-00574-00135638-00135841 Guantanamo Bay detainees under the 4uazfbG_t3y-00575-00135842-00136075 existing Guantanamo Military Commission 4uazfbG_t3y-00576-00136076-00136291 known also as Military Tribunal was 4uazfbG_t3y-00577-00136292-00136489 illegal under US law including the 4uazfbG_t3y-00578-00136490-00136678 Geneva Conventions with the War Crimes 4uazfbG_t3y-00579-00136679-00136900 Act in mind this ruling presented the 4uazfbG_t3y-00580-00136901-00137074 Bush administration with the risk of 4uazfbG_t3y-00581-00137075-00137365 criminal liability for war crimes to 4uazfbG_t3y-00582-00137366-00137542 address these legal problems the 4uazfbG_t3y-00583-00137543-00137746 president requested and Congress passed 4uazfbG_t3y-00584-00137747-00138103 the military commissions Act of 2006 the 4uazfbG_t3y-00585-00138104-00138298 bill was controversial for continuing to 4uazfbG_t3y-00586-00138299-00138487 authorize the President to designate 4uazfbG_t3y-00587-00138488-00138706 certain people as unlawful enemy 4uazfbG_t3y-00588-00138707-00139000 combatants thus making them subject to 4uazfbG_t3y-00589-00139001-00139198 military commissions and depriving them 4uazfbG_t3y-00590-00139199-00139534 of habeas corpus in Boumediene V Bush 4uazfbG_t3y-00591-00139535-00139819 2008 the US Supreme Court ruled that 4uazfbG_t3y-00592-00139820-00139993 foreign detainees held by the United 4uazfbG_t3y-00593-00139994-00140242 States including those at Guantanamo Bay 4uazfbG_t3y-00594-00140243-00140419 detention camp did have the right of 4uazfbG_t3y-00595-00140420-00140581 habeas corpus under the US Constitution 4uazfbG_t3y-00596-00140582-00140863 as the u.s. had sole authority at the 4uazfbG_t3y-00597-00140864-00141133 Guantanamo Bay Base it held that the 4uazfbG_t3y-00598-00141134-00141406 2006 military commissions act was an 4uazfbG_t3y-00599-00141407-00141601 unconstitutional suspension of that 4uazfbG_t3y-00600-00141602-00142054 right On January 18 2007 Gonzales was 4uazfbG_t3y-00601-00142055-00142216 invited to speak to the Senate Judiciary 4uazfbG_t3y-00602-00142217-00142387 Committee where he shocked the 4uazfbG_t3y-00603-00142388-00142594 committee's ranking member Arlen Specter 4uazfbG_t3y-00604-00142595-00142713 of Pennsylvania with 4uazfbG_t3y-00605-00142714-00142863 statements regarding the right of habeas 4uazfbG_t3y-00606-00142864-00143061 corpus in the United States Constitution 4uazfbG_t3y-00607-00143062-00143420 an excerpt of the exchange follows 4uazfbG_t3y-00608-00143421-00143688 Gonzales the fact that the Constitution 4uazfbG_t3y-00609-00143689-00143913 again there is no Express grant of 4uazfbG_t3y-00610-00143914-00144162 habeas in the Constitution there is a 4uazfbG_t3y-00611-00144163-00144396 prohibition against taking it away but 4uazfbG_t3y-00612-00144397-00144573 it's never been the case and I'm not a 4uazfbG_t3y-00613-00144574-00144970 supreme Spector now wait a minute wait a 4uazfbG_t3y-00614-00144971-00145020 minute 4uazfbG_t3y-00615-00145021-00145224 the Constitution says you can't take it 4uazfbG_t3y-00616-00145225-00145428 away except in the case of rebellion or 4uazfbG_t3y-00617-00145429-00145671 invasion doesn't that mean you have the 4uazfbG_t3y-00618-00145672-00145875 right of habeas corpus unless there is 4uazfbG_t3y-00619-00145876-00146088 an invasion or rebellion Gonzales I 4uazfbG_t3y-00620-00146089-00146293 meant by that comment the Constitution 4uazfbG_t3y-00621-00146294-00146518 doesn't say every individual in the 4uazfbG_t3y-00622-00146519-00146763 United States or every citizen is hereby 4uazfbG_t3y-00623-00146764-00147035 granted or assured the right to habeas 4uazfbG_t3y-00624-00147036-00147345 it doesn't say that it simply says the 4uazfbG_t3y-00625-00147346-00147516 right of habeas corpus shall not be 4uazfbG_t3y-00626-00147517-00147846 suspended except by Senator Specter was 4uazfbG_t3y-00627-00147847-00148047 referring to second Clause of section 9 4uazfbG_t3y-00628-00148048-00148245 of article 1 of the Constitution of the 4uazfbG_t3y-00629-00148246-00148497 United States which reads the privilege 4uazfbG_t3y-00630-00148498-00148701 of the writ of habeas corpus shall not 4uazfbG_t3y-00631-00148702-00148957 be suspended unless when in cases of 4uazfbG_t3y-00632-00148958-00149187 rebellion or invasion the public safety 4uazfbG_t3y-00633-00149188-00149511 may require it this passage has been 4uazfbG_t3y-00634-00149512-00149670 historically interpreted to mean that 4uazfbG_t3y-00635-00149671-00149835 the right of habeas corpus has 4uazfbG_t3y-00636-00149836-00150153 inherently established Gonzales dissents 4uazfbG_t3y-00637-00150154-00150339 from the consensus view citing with 4uazfbG_t3y-00638-00150340-00150549 professor Irwin Chemerinsky who said 4uazfbG_t3y-00639-00150550-00150786 though the Constitution prohibits 4uazfbG_t3y-00640-00150787-00150978 Congress from suspending the writ of 4uazfbG_t3y-00641-00150979-00151215 habeas corpus except during times of 4uazfbG_t3y-00642-00151216-00151464 rebellion or invasion this provision was 4uazfbG_t3y-00643-00151465-00151659 probably meant to keep Congress from 4uazfbG_t3y-00644-00151660-00151866 suspending the writ and preventing state 4uazfbG_t3y-00645-00151867-00152079 courts from releasing individuals who 4uazfbG_t3y-00646-00152080-00152307 were wrongfully imprisoned the 4uazfbG_t3y-00647-00152308-00152538 constitutional provision does not create 4uazfbG_t3y-00648-00152539-00152811 a right to habeas corpus rather federal 4uazfbG_t3y-00649-00152812-00153023 statutes do so 4uazfbG_t3y-00650-00153024-00153273 additionally the Constitutional 4uazfbG_t3y-00651-00153274-00153481 Convention prevented Congress from 4uazfbG_t3y-00652-00153482-00153657 obstructing the state's courts ability 4uazfbG_t3y-00653-00153658-00153864 to grant the writ but did not try to 4uazfbG_t3y-00654-00153865-00154095 create a federal constitutional right to 4uazfbG_t3y-00655-00154096-00154331 habeas corpus 4uazfbG_t3y-00656-00154332-00154565 after all if the suspension Clause 4uazfbG_t3y-00657-00154566-00154778 itself were an affirmative grant of 4uazfbG_t3y-00658-00154779-00154976 procedural rights to those held in 4uazfbG_t3y-00659-00154977-00155147 federal custody there would have been 4uazfbG_t3y-00660-00155148-00155369 little need for the first Congress to 4uazfbG_t3y-00661-00155370-00155576 enact as it did habeas corpus 4uazfbG_t3y-00662-00155577-00155974 protections in the Judiciary Act of 1789 4uazfbG_t3y-00663-00155975-00156251 Chemerinsky z' argument has been denied 4uazfbG_t3y-00664-00156252-00156491 by justice paul stevens in a 2001 4uazfbG_t3y-00665-00156492-00156731 opinion in an immigration case involving 4uazfbG_t3y-00666-00156732-00156929 the issue where stevens touches upon 4uazfbG_t3y-00667-00156930-00157121 what he believes the far more sensible 4uazfbG_t3y-00668-00157122-00157388 view the dissent reads into Chief 4uazfbG_t3y-00669-00157389-00157607 Justice Marshalls opinion in ex parte 4uazfbG_t3y-00670-00157608-00157976 Bauman Fork Ranch 75 1807 support for a 4uazfbG_t3y-00671-00157977-00158174 proposition that the Chief Justice did 4uazfbG_t3y-00672-00158175-00158354 not endorse either explicitly or 4uazfbG_t3y-00673-00158355-00158822 implicitly see post at 1415 he did note 4uazfbG_t3y-00674-00158823-00159044 that the first Congress of the United 4uazfbG_t3y-00675-00159045-00159335 States acted under the immediate 4uazfbG_t3y-00676-00159336-00159629 influence of the injunction provided by 4uazfbG_t3y-00677-00159630-00159866 the suspension clause when it gave life 4uazfbG_t3y-00678-00159867-00160133 and activity to this great 4uazfbG_t3y-00679-00160134-00160382 constitutional privilege in the 4uazfbG_t3y-00680-00160383-00160673 Judiciary Act of 1789 and that the writ 4uazfbG_t3y-00681-00160674-00160856 could not be suspended until after the 4uazfbG_t3y-00682-00160857-00161192 statute was enacted Fork Ranch at 95 4uazfbG_t3y-00683-00161193-00161444 that statement however surely does not 4uazfbG_t3y-00684-00161445-00161639 imply that Marshall believed the framers 4uazfbG_t3y-00685-00161640-00161783 had drafted a clause that would 4uazfbG_t3y-00686-00161784-00161993 prescribe a temporary abrogation of the 4uazfbG_t3y-00687-00161994-00162143 writ while permitting its permanent 4uazfbG_t3y-00688-00162144-00162416 suspension indeed Marshalls comment 4uazfbG_t3y-00689-00162417-00162623 expresses the far more sensible view 4uazfbG_t3y-00690-00162624-00162782 that the clause was intended to preclude 4uazfbG_t3y-00691-00162783-00163016 any possibility that the privilege 4uazfbG_t3y-00692-00163017-00163277 itself would be lost by either the 4uazfbG_t3y-00693-00163278-00163583 inaction or the action of Congress CEG 4uazfbG_t3y-00694-00163584-00163835 EBIT noting that the founders must have 4uazfbG_t3y-00695-00163836-00164099 felt with peculiar force the obligation 4uazfbG_t3y-00696-00164100-00164501 imposed by the suspension Clause Justice 4uazfbG_t3y-00697-00164502-00164660 Stevens assertion is backed up by 4uazfbG_t3y-00698-00164661-00164840 sentiments found in the Federalist 4uazfbG_t3y-00699-00164841-00165071 number 84 which enshrines the right to 4uazfbG_t3y-00700-00165072-00165319 petition for habeas corpuses fundamental 4uazfbG_t3y-00701-00165320-00165596 the establishment of the writ of habeas 4uazfbG_t3y-00702-00165597-00165812 corpus the prohibition of ex post facto 4uazfbG_t3y-00703-00165813-00166070 laws and of titles of nobility to which 4uazfbG_t3y-00704-00166071-00166256 we have no corresponding provision in 4uazfbG_t3y-00705-00166257-00166451 our Constitution are perhaps greater 4uazfbG_t3y-00706-00166452-00166664 securities to Liberty and republicanism 4uazfbG_t3y-00707-00166665-00166937 than any it contains the creation of 4uazfbG_t3y-00708-00166938-00167117 crimes after the commission of the fact 4uazfbG_t3y-00709-00167118-00167348 or in other words the subjecting of men 4uazfbG_t3y-00710-00167349-00167528 to punishment for things which when they 4uazfbG_t3y-00711-00167529-00167708 were done were breaches of no 4uazfbG_t3y-00712-00167709-00167851 and the practice of arbitrary 4uazfbG_t3y-00713-00167852-00168076 imprisonments have been in all ages the 4uazfbG_t3y-00714-00168077-00168274 favorite and most formidable instruments 4uazfbG_t3y-00715-00168275-00168601 of tyranny the Constitution presupposes 4uazfbG_t3y-00716-00168602-00168775 that courts in the United States will 4uazfbG_t3y-00717-00168776-00168944 have the authority to issue the writ as 4uazfbG_t3y-00718-00168945-00169216 they historically did at common law see 4uazfbG_t3y-00719-00169217-00169411 eg Immigration and Naturalization 4uazfbG_t3y-00720-00169412-00169990 Service V st. Cyr 533 u.s. 289 2001 4uazfbG_t3y-00721-00169991-00170716 Felker V Turpin 518 u.s. 651 666 1996 4uazfbG_t3y-00722-00170717-00170941 the suspension Clause of the 4uazfbG_t3y-00723-00170942-00171197 Constitution provides that tee-hee 4uazfbG_t3y-00724-00171198-00171373 privilege of the writ of habeas corpus 4uazfbG_t3y-00725-00171374-00171644 shall not be suspended unless when in 4uazfbG_t3y-00726-00171645-00171893 case of rebellion or invasion the public 4uazfbG_t3y-00727-00171894-00172174 safety may require it as some 4uazfbG_t3y-00728-00172175-00172397 commentators have noted the text does 4uazfbG_t3y-00729-00172398-00172624 not explicitly confer a right to habeas 4uazfbG_t3y-00730-00172625-00172876 relief but merely sets forth when the 4uazfbG_t3y-00731-00172877-00173182 privilege of the writ may be suspended 4uazfbG_t3y-00732-00173183-00173386 as Robert Perry writes into Baltimore 4uazfbG_t3y-00733-00173387-00173584 Chronicle and Sentinel applying 4uazfbG_t3y-00734-00173585-00173746 Gonzalez's reasoning one could argue 4uazfbG_t3y-00735-00173747-00173908 that the first amendment doesn't 4uazfbG_t3y-00736-00173909-00174112 explicitly say Americans have the right 4uazfbG_t3y-00737-00174113-00174322 to worship as they choose speak as they 4uazfbG_t3y-00738-00174323-00174591 wish or assemble peacefully ironically 4uazfbG_t3y-00739-00174592-00174804 Gonzales may be wrong in another way 4uazfbG_t3y-00740-00174805-00174988 about the lack of specificity in the 4uazfbG_t3y-00741-00174989-00175225 Constitution's granting of habeas corpus 4uazfbG_t3y-00742-00175226-00175468 rights many of the legal features 4uazfbG_t3y-00743-00175469-00175650 attributed to habeas corpus are 4uazfbG_t3y-00744-00175651-00175839 delineated in a positive way in the 4uazfbG_t3y-00745-00175840-00176400 sixth amendment 4uazfbG_t3y-00746-00176401-00177002 topic support for use of torture 4uazfbG_t3y-00747-00177003-00177245 Alberto Gonzales was a supporter and 4uazfbG_t3y-00748-00177246-00177440 enabler of the Bush administration's 4uazfbG_t3y-00749-00177441-00177598 policy of torture of detainees 4uazfbG_t3y-00750-00177599-00177869 internally referred to as enhanced 4uazfbG_t3y-00751-00177870-00178170 interrogation techniques 4uazfbG_t3y-00752-00178171-00178497 in January 2002 gonzales authored a memo 4uazfbG_t3y-00753-00178498-00178644 that explored whether the Geneva 4uazfbG_t3y-00754-00178645-00178821 Conventions section three on the 4uazfbG_t3y-00755-00178822-00179061 treatment of prisoners of war gpw 4uazfbG_t3y-00756-00179062-00179304 applied to al-qaeda and Taliban fighters 4uazfbG_t3y-00757-00179305-00179514 captured in Afghanistan and held in 4uazfbG_t3y-00758-00179515-00179700 detention facilities around the world 4uazfbG_t3y-00759-00179701-00179940 including Camp ten Rea in Guantanamo Bay 4uazfbG_t3y-00760-00179941-00180261 Cuba the memo made several arguments 4uazfbG_t3y-00761-00180262-00180501 both for and against providing gpw 4uazfbG_t3y-00762-00180502-00180654 protection to al-qaeda and Taliban 4uazfbG_t3y-00763-00180655-00180978 fighters the memo concluded that certain 4uazfbG_t3y-00764-00180979-00181239 provisions of gpw were outdated and ill 4uazfbG_t3y-00765-00181240-00181395 suited for dealing with captured 4uazfbG_t3y-00766-00181396-00181647 al-qaeda and Taliban fighters the war 4uazfbG_t3y-00767-00181648-00181851 against terrorism is not the traditional 4uazfbG_t3y-00768-00181852-00182115 clash between nations adhering to the 4uazfbG_t3y-00769-00182116-00182339 laws of war that formed the backdrop for 4uazfbG_t3y-00770-00182340-00182724 gpw the nature of the new war places a 4uazfbG_t3y-00771-00182725-00182961 high premium on other factors such as 4uazfbG_t3y-00772-00182962-00183129 the ability to quickly obtain 4uazfbG_t3y-00773-00183130-00183399 information from captured terrorists and 4uazfbG_t3y-00774-00183400-00183615 their sponsors in order to avoid further 4uazfbG_t3y-00775-00183616-00183867 atrocities against American civilians 4uazfbG_t3y-00776-00183868-00184080 and the need to try terrorists for war 4uazfbG_t3y-00777-00184081-00184278 crimes such as wantonly killing 4uazfbG_t3y-00778-00184279-00184418 civilians 4uazfbG_t3y-00779-00184419-00184707 Gonzales later explained the old ways 4uazfbG_t3y-00780-00184708-00184953 may not work here that's what the memo 4uazfbG_t3y-00781-00184954-00185169 was intended to convey to the president 4uazfbG_t3y-00782-00185170-00185418 I never meant to convey to the president 4uazfbG_t3y-00783-00185419-00185619 that the basic values in the Geneva 4uazfbG_t3y-00784-00185620-00185946 Convention were outdated he noted that a 4uazfbG_t3y-00785-00185947-00186147 British parliamentary committee visiting 4uazfbG_t3y-00786-00186148-00186375 Guantanamo while horrified by conditions 4uazfbG_t3y-00787-00186376-00186519 at the base had reached a similar 4uazfbG_t3y-00788-00186520-00186735 conclusion when it said the Geneva 4uazfbG_t3y-00789-00186736-00186918 Conventions are failing to provide 4uazfbG_t3y-00790-00186919-00187140 necessary protection because they lack 4uazfbG_t3y-00791-00187141-00187491 clarity and are out of date he argued 4uazfbG_t3y-00792-00187492-00187713 that existing military regulations and 4uazfbG_t3y-00793-00187714-00187869 instructions from the president were 4uazfbG_t3y-00794-00187870-00188034 more than adequate to ensure that the 4uazfbG_t3y-00795-00188035-00188163 principles of the Geneva Convention 4uazfbG_t3y-00796-00188164-00188469 would be applied he also expressed a 4uazfbG_t3y-00797-00188470-00188652 concern that undefined language in 4uazfbG_t3y-00798-00188653-00189030 common article 3 of gpw such as outrages 4uazfbG_t3y-00799-00189031-00189348 upon personal dignity and inhuman 4uazfbG_t3y-00800-00189349-00189567 treatment could make officials and 4uazfbG_t3y-00801-00189568-00189747 military leaders subject to the War 4uazfbG_t3y-00802-00189748-00190020 Crimes Act of 1996 if actions were 4uazfbG_t3y-00803-00190021-00190215 deemed to constitute violations of the 4uazfbG_t3y-00804-00190216-00190527 Act Attorney General John Ashcroft made 4uazfbG_t3y-00805-00190528-00190707 a similar argument on behalf of the 4uazfbG_t3y-00806-00190708-00190887 Justice Department by letter to the 4uazfbG_t3y-00807-00190888-00191151 President dated February 1st 2002 4uazfbG_t3y-00808-00191152-00191301 writing that a presidential 4uazfbG_t3y-00809-00191302-00191544 determination against treaty applique 4uazfbG_t3y-00810-00191545-00191777 would provide the highest assurance that 4uazfbG_t3y-00811-00191778-00192000 no court would subsequently entertain 4uazfbG_t3y-00812-00192001-00192266 charges that American military officers 4uazfbG_t3y-00813-00192267-00192468 intelligence officials or law 4uazfbG_t3y-00814-00192469-00192711 enforcement officials violated Geneva 4uazfbG_t3y-00815-00192712-00192929 Convention rules relating to field 4uazfbG_t3y-00816-00192930-00193151 conduct detention conduct or 4uazfbG_t3y-00817-00193152-00193449 interrogation of detainees the war 4uazfbG_t3y-00818-00193450-00193818 crimes act of 1996 makes violations of 4uazfbG_t3y-00819-00193819-00194037 parts of the Geneva Convention a crime 4uazfbG_t3y-00820-00194038-00194239 in the United States 4uazfbG_t3y-00821-00194240-00194532 Gonzales oversaw President Bush's office 4uazfbG_t3y-00822-00194533-00194837 of legal counsel on August 1st 2002 at 4uazfbG_t3y-00823-00194838-00195065 which time the OLC produced the Bybee 4uazfbG_t3y-00824-00195066-00195285 memo a document that provided the legal 4uazfbG_t3y-00825-00195286-00195428 framework by which previous 4uazfbG_t3y-00826-00195429-00195587 interpretations of the Geneva Convention 4uazfbG_t3y-00827-00195588-00195783 and the United Nations Convention 4uazfbG_t3y-00828-00195784-00196020 Against Torture were modified to expand 4uazfbG_t3y-00829-00196021-00196197 presidential authority to enable 4uazfbG_t3y-00830-00196198-00196427 so-called enhanced interrogation 4uazfbG_t3y-00831-00196428-00196671 techniques the memo was produced in 4uazfbG_t3y-00832-00196672-00196950 response to a specific CIA request for 4uazfbG_t3y-00833-00196951-00197118 clarification of the standards of 4uazfbG_t3y-00834-00197119-00197325 interrogation under US law in the 4uazfbG_t3y-00835-00197326-00197547 specific case of Abu Zubaydah a man 4uazfbG_t3y-00836-00197548-00197700 believed at the time to be a high-level 4uazfbG_t3y-00837-00197701-00198041 al-qaeda leader in response the Justice 4uazfbG_t3y-00838-00198042-00198261 Department issued a classified August 4uazfbG_t3y-00839-00198262-00198597 1st 2002 memo to the CIA from Jay Bybee 4uazfbG_t3y-00840-00198598-00198791 the assistant attorney general for the 4uazfbG_t3y-00841-00198792-00198996 office of legal counsel and an August 4uazfbG_t3y-00842-00198997-00199281 1st 2002 legal opinion to Gonzales from 4uazfbG_t3y-00843-00199282-00199494 Jay Bybee defining torture as an act 4uazfbG_t3y-00844-00199495-00199703 specifically intended to inflict severe 4uazfbG_t3y-00845-00199704-00200033 physical or mental pain or suffering 4uazfbG_t3y-00846-00200034-00200298 journalists including Jane Mayer Joby 4uazfbG_t3y-00847-00200299-00200532 Warrick and Peter Finn an Alex Koppelman 4uazfbG_t3y-00848-00200533-00200772 have reported the CIA was already using 4uazfbG_t3y-00849-00200773-00200934 these harsh tactics before the memo 4uazfbG_t3y-00850-00200935-00201113 authorizing their use was written and 4uazfbG_t3y-00851-00201114-00201275 that it was used to provide after the 4uazfbG_t3y-00852-00201276-00201423 fact legal support for harsh 4uazfbG_t3y-00853-00201424-00201711 interrogation techniques a Department of 4uazfbG_t3y-00854-00201712-00201993 Justice 2009 report regarding prisoner 4uazfbG_t3y-00855-00201994-00202224 abuses reportedly stated the memos were 4uazfbG_t3y-00856-00202225-00202425 prepared one month after Abu Zubaydah 4uazfbG_t3y-00857-00202426-00202601 had already been subjected to the 4uazfbG_t3y-00858-00202602-00202800 specific techniques authorized in the 4uazfbG_t3y-00859-00202801-00203126 August 1st 2002 memo John Kiriakou 4uazfbG_t3y-00860-00203127-00203429 stated in July 2009 that Abu Zubaydah 4uazfbG_t3y-00861-00203430-00203649 was waterboarded in the early summer of 4uazfbG_t3y-00862-00203650-00203990 2002 months before the August 1st 2002 4uazfbG_t3y-00863-00203991-00204212 memo was written the memo described ten 4uazfbG_t3y-00864-00204213-00204377 techniques which the interrogators 4uazfbG_t3y-00865-00204378-00204675 wanted to use one attention grasped to 4uazfbG_t3y-00866-00204676-00204917 walling three facial hold for 4uazfbG_t3y-00867-00204919-00205196 facial slap insult slap five cramped 4uazfbG_t3y-00868-00205198-00205466 confinement six walls standing seven 4uazfbG_t3y-00869-00205467-00205691 stress positions eight sleep deprivation 4uazfbG_t3y-00870-00205692-00206025 nine insects placed in a confinement box 4uazfbG_t3y-00871-00206026-00206357 and tenth the water board many of the 4uazfbG_t3y-00872-00206358-00206553 techniques were until then generally 4uazfbG_t3y-00873-00206554-00206823 considered illegal many other techniques 4uazfbG_t3y-00874-00206823-00207027 developed by the CIA were held to 4uazfbG_t3y-00875-00207028-00207164 constitute inhumane and degrading 4uazfbG_t3y-00876-00207165-00207402 treatment and torture under the United 4uazfbG_t3y-00877-00207403-00207605 Nations Convention Against Torture and 4uazfbG_t3y-00878-00207606-00207812 article 3 of the European Convention on 4uazfbG_t3y-00879-00207813-00208109 Human Rights has reported later many of 4uazfbG_t3y-00880-00208110-00208271 these interrogation techniques were 4uazfbG_t3y-00881-00208273-00208490 previously considered illegal under US 4uazfbG_t3y-00882-00208491-00208698 and international law and treaties at 4uazfbG_t3y-00883-00208698-00208967 the time of Abu Zubaydah's capture for 4uazfbG_t3y-00884-00208969-00209141 instance the United States had 4uazfbG_t3y-00885-00209142-00209381 prosecuted Japanese military officials 4uazfbG_t3y-00886-00209382-00209573 after World War Two and American 4uazfbG_t3y-00887-00209575-00209739 soldiers after the Vietnam War for 4uazfbG_t3y-00888-00209740-00210075 waterboarding since 1930 the United 4uazfbG_t3y-00889-00210076-00210294 States had defined sleep deprivation as 4uazfbG_t3y-00890-00210294-00210564 an illegal form of torture many other 4uazfbG_t3y-00891-00210565-00210746 techniques developed by the CIA 4uazfbG_t3y-00892-00210748-00210923 constitute inhuman and degrading 4uazfbG_t3y-00893-00210925-00211173 treatment and torture under the United 4uazfbG_t3y-00894-00211173-00211373 Nations Convention Against Torture an 4uazfbG_t3y-00895-00211375-00211598 article 3 of the European Convention on 4uazfbG_t3y-00896-00211600-00211878 Human Rights in May 2005 three months 4uazfbG_t3y-00897-00211879-00212096 after Gonzales became Attorney General 4uazfbG_t3y-00898-00212098-00212313 Stephen G Bradbury of the Office of 4uazfbG_t3y-00899-00212314-00212471 Legal Counsel issued a pair of 4uazfbG_t3y-00900-00212473-00212669 classified opinions which for the first 4uazfbG_t3y-00901-00212671-00212830 time provided Central Intelligence 4uazfbG_t3y-00902-00212831-00213110 Agency explicit authorization to apply 4uazfbG_t3y-00903-00213111-00213348 to terror suspects a variety of painful 4uazfbG_t3y-00904-00213348-00213555 physical and psychological interrogation 4uazfbG_t3y-00905-00213556-00213769 methods either alone or in combination 4uazfbG_t3y-00906-00213771-00214026 the approved techniques included 4uazfbG_t3y-00907-00214027-00214266 striking a prisoner exposure to extreme 4uazfbG_t3y-00908-00214267-00214500 temperatures stress positions walling 4uazfbG_t3y-00909-00214501-00214773 sleep deprivation for up to 180 hours 4uazfbG_t3y-00910-00214773-00215019 seven and a half days and the simulated 4uazfbG_t3y-00911-00215019-00215165 drowning procedure known as 4uazfbG_t3y-00912-00215166-00215439 waterboarding these secret memos 4uazfbG_t3y-00913-00215440-00215664 superseded a previous in classified 4uazfbG_t3y-00914-00215665-00215855 legal opinion that declared torture 4uazfbG_t3y-00915-00215856-00216158 abhorrent nevertheless the classified 4uazfbG_t3y-00916-00216159-00216330 opinions claimed that their reasoning 4uazfbG_t3y-00917-00216331-00216513 and conclusions were based upon and 4uazfbG_t3y-00918-00216514-00216696 fully consistent with the previous legal 4uazfbG_t3y-00919-00216696-00217019 opinion Gonzales reportedly approved the 4uazfbG_t3y-00920-00217021-00217329 May 10th 2005 classified legal memoranda 4uazfbG_t3y-00921-00217330-00217554 over the policy objections of James B 4uazfbG_t3y-00922-00217555-00217728 Comey the outgoing Deputy Attorney 4uazfbG_t3y-00923-00217729-00217926 General who told colleagues at the 4uazfbG_t3y-00924-00217927-00218081 Justice Department that they would all 4uazfbG_t3y-00925-00218082-00218225 be a 4uazfbG_t3y-00926-00218226-00218429 when the world eventually learned event 4uazfbG_t3y-00927-00218430-00218705 Patrick Leahy and John Conyers chairman 4uazfbG_t3y-00928-00218706-00218858 of the respective Senate and House 4uazfbG_t3y-00929-00218859-00219077 Judiciary Committee's requested that the 4uazfbG_t3y-00930-00219078-00219251 Justice Department turn over documents 4uazfbG_t3y-00931-00219252-00219551 related to the classified 2005 legal 4uazfbG_t3y-00932-00219552-00219733 opinions to their committees for review 4uazfbG_t3y-00933-00219734-00220133 in 2009 the Obama administration stated 4uazfbG_t3y-00934-00220134-00220334 it would abide by the Geneva Convention 4uazfbG_t3y-00935-00220335-00220492 and described some of the enhanced 4uazfbG_t3y-00936-00220494-00220685 interrogation techniques established 4uazfbG_t3y-00937-00220686-00220892 under attorney general Gonzales tenure 4uazfbG_t3y-00938-00220892-00221255 as torture on January 22nd 2009 4uazfbG_t3y-00939-00221256-00221446 President Obama signed an executive 4uazfbG_t3y-00940-00221448-00221756 order requiring the CIA to use only the 4uazfbG_t3y-00941-00221757-00221990 19 interrogation methods outlined in the 4uazfbG_t3y-00942-00221991-00222196 United States Army Field Manual on 4uazfbG_t3y-00943-00222198-00222380 interrogations unless the Attorney 4uazfbG_t3y-00944-00222381-00222554 General with appropriate consultation 4uazfbG_t3y-00945-00222555-00222860 provides further guidance Bradbury's 4uazfbG_t3y-00946-00222861-00223058 memoranda were publicly released by the 4uazfbG_t3y-00947-00223059-00223871 Obama administration on April 16 2009 4uazfbG_t3y-00948-00223871-00224576 topic NSA domestic eavesdropping program 4uazfbG_t3y-00949-00224577-00224814 gonzales was an early advocate of the 4uazfbG_t3y-00950-00224815-00225063 controversial USA PATRIOT Act which was 4uazfbG_t3y-00951-00225064-00225255 passed by Congress and signed into law 4uazfbG_t3y-00952-00225256-00225584 by President Bush on October 26th 2001 4uazfbG_t3y-00953-00225585-00225864 during Gonzales tenure the Justice 4uazfbG_t3y-00954-00225865-00226035 Department and the Federal Bureau of 4uazfbG_t3y-00955-00226036-00226263 Investigation were accused of improperly 4uazfbG_t3y-00956-00226264-00226496 and perhaps illegally using the USA 4uazfbG_t3y-00957-00226498-00226692 PATRIOT Act to uncover personal 4uazfbG_t3y-00958-00226692-00226902 information about US citizens in a 4uazfbG_t3y-00959-00226903-00227157 December 2005 article in The New York 4uazfbG_t3y-00960-00227158-00227358 Times it was revealed that the National 4uazfbG_t3y-00961-00227359-00227640 Security Agency NSA was eavesdropping on 4uazfbG_t3y-00962-00227641-00227865 u.s. citizens without warrants in cases 4uazfbG_t3y-00963-00227866-00228105 where I NSA intelligence agents had 4uazfbG_t3y-00964-00228106-00228296 reason to believe at least one party to 4uazfbG_t3y-00965-00228298-00228507 the call was a member of al-qaeda or a 4uazfbG_t3y-00966-00228508-00228719 group affiliated with al-qaeda and II 4uazfbG_t3y-00967-00228721-00228987 the call was international the New York 4uazfbG_t3y-00968-00228988-00229176 Times acknowledged that the activities 4uazfbG_t3y-00969-00229177-00229344 had been classified and that it had 4uazfbG_t3y-00970-00229344-00229503 disclosed the activities over the 4uazfbG_t3y-00971-00229504-00229779 administration's objections as such 4uazfbG_t3y-00972-00229780-00229998 attorney general Gonzales threatened at 4uazfbG_t3y-00973-00229998-00230157 times with prosecution under the 4uazfbG_t3y-00974-00230158-00230454 Espionage Act of 1917 since knowing 4uazfbG_t3y-00975-00230455-00230676 publication of classified information as 4uazfbG_t3y-00976-00230677-00230940 a federal crime Gonzales raised the 4uazfbG_t3y-00977-00230941-00231087 possibility that the New York Times 4uazfbG_t3y-00978-00231088-00231303 journalists could be prosecuted for 4uazfbG_t3y-00979-00231304-00231510 publishing classified information based 4uazfbG_t3y-00980-00231511-00231654 on the outcome of the criminal 4uazfbG_t3y-00981-00231655-00231858 investigation underway into leaks to the 4uazfbG_t3y-00982-00231859-00232026 times of data about the National 4uazfbG_t3y-00983-00232027-00232215 Security Agency's surveillance of 4uazfbG_t3y-00984-00232216-00232392 terrorist related calls between the 4uazfbG_t3y-00985-00232392-00232667 United States and abroad he said I 4uazfbG_t3y-00986-00232669-00232919 understand very much the role that the 4uazfbG_t3y-00987-00232921-00233123 press plays in our society the 4uazfbG_t3y-00988-00233125-00233334 protection under the First Amendment we 4uazfbG_t3y-00989-00233335-00233653 want to protect and respect 4uazfbG_t3y-00990-00233654-00233932 as for The Times he said as we do in 4uazfbG_t3y-00991-00233933-00234103 every case it's a case-by-case 4uazfbG_t3y-00992-00234104-00234355 evaluation about what the evidence shows 4uazfbG_t3y-00993-00234356-00234679 us our interpretation of the law we have 4uazfbG_t3y-00994-00234680-00234916 an obligation to enforce the law and to 4uazfbG_t3y-00995-00234917-00235123 prosecute those who engage in criminal 4uazfbG_t3y-00996-00235124-00235453 activity the publication led to an 4uazfbG_t3y-00997-00235454-00235618 investigation by the Office of 4uazfbG_t3y-00998-00235619-00235900 Professional Responsibility OPR over the 4uazfbG_t3y-00999-00235901-00236083 role of Department of Justice DOJ 4uazfbG_t3y-01000-00236084-00236329 lawyers in giving legal advice to 4uazfbG_t3y-01001-00236330-00236513 support various intelligence collection 4uazfbG_t3y-01002-00236514-00236845 activities OPR is responsible for 4uazfbG_t3y-01003-00236846-00236998 investigating allegations of 4uazfbG_t3y-01004-00236999-00237244 professional misconduct by DOJ attorneys 4uazfbG_t3y-01005-00237245-00237541 the objective of OPR is to ensure that 4uazfbG_t3y-01006-00237542-00237781 DOJ attorneys perform their duties in 4uazfbG_t3y-01007-00237782-00237958 accordance with the highest professional 4uazfbG_t3y-01008-00237959-00238262 standards the Bush administration and 4uazfbG_t3y-01009-00238263-00238474 attorney general Gonzales believed that 4uazfbG_t3y-01010-00238475-00238657 OPR did not have the authority to 4uazfbG_t3y-01011-00238658-00238882 investigate Gonzales role as white House 4uazfbG_t3y-01012-00238883-00239056 Counsel in connection with certain 4uazfbG_t3y-01013-00239057-00239266 intelligence activities authorized by 4uazfbG_t3y-01014-00239267-00239540 the president in response to suggestions 4uazfbG_t3y-01015-00239541-00239773 that Gonzales blocked the investigation 4uazfbG_t3y-01016-00239774-00239905 or that the president blocked the 4uazfbG_t3y-01017-00239906-00240097 investigation to protect Gonzales 4uazfbG_t3y-01018-00240098-00240274 Assistant Attorney General Richard 4uazfbG_t3y-01019-00240275-00240488 Hertling informed chairman John Conyers 4uazfbG_t3y-01020-00240489-00240863 on March 22nd 2007 that the president 4uazfbG_t3y-01021-00240864-00241037 made the decision not to grant the 4uazfbG_t3y-01022-00241038-00241415 requested security clearances to OPR 4uazfbG_t3y-01023-00241416-00241759 staff judge Gonzales was not told he was 4uazfbG_t3y-01024-00241760-00241988 the subject or target of the OPR 4uazfbG_t3y-01025-00241989-00242182 investigation nor did he believed 4uazfbG_t3y-01026-00242183-00242406 himself to be 4uazfbG_t3y-01027-00242407-00242757 judge Gonzales did not ask the President 4uazfbG_t3y-01028-00242758-00243021 to shut down or otherwise impede the OPR 4uazfbG_t3y-01029-00243022-00243463 investigation judge Gonzales recommended 4uazfbG_t3y-01030-00243464-00243715 to the president that OPR be granted 4uazfbG_t3y-01031-00243716-00244035 security clearance in a letter to the 4uazfbG_t3y-01032-00244036-00244347 Senate dated August 1st 2007 Gonzales 4uazfbG_t3y-01033-00244348-00244516 disclosed that shortly after the 4uazfbG_t3y-01034-00244517-00244734 September 11th attacks the president 4uazfbG_t3y-01035-00244735-00244942 authorized the NSA under a single 4uazfbG_t3y-01036-00244942-00245175 presidential authorization to engage in 4uazfbG_t3y-01037-00245176-00245304 a number of intelligence activities 4uazfbG_t3y-01038-00245305-00245494 which would later be collectively 4uazfbG_t3y-01039-00245494-00245679 described as the president's 4uazfbG_t3y-01040-00245680-00245994 surveillance program PSP by the DOJ 4uazfbG_t3y-01041-00245995-00246319 inspector general Glenn a fine some of 4uazfbG_t3y-01042-00246319-00246474 these authorized activities were 4uazfbG_t3y-01043-00246475-00246669 described as the terrorist surveillance 4uazfbG_t3y-01044-00246670-00247044 program TSP by President Bush in an 4uazfbG_t3y-01045-00247045-00247257 address to the nation on December 16 4uazfbG_t3y-01046-00247258-00247551 2005 as the August first letter 4uazfbG_t3y-01047-00247552-00247728 indicates the dispute between the 4uazfbG_t3y-01048-00247729-00247908 President and James Comey that led to 4uazfbG_t3y-01049-00247909-00248167 the hospital visit was not over TSP it 4uazfbG_t3y-01050-00248167-00248355 concerned other classified intelligence 4uazfbG_t3y-01051-00248356-00248617 activities that are part of PSP and have 4uazfbG_t3y-01052-00248617-00248866 not been disclosed he defended his 4uazfbG_t3y-01053-00248867-00249217 authorization of the program asserting 4uazfbG_t3y-01054-00249217-00249471 if you are talking with al-qaeda we want 4uazfbG_t3y-01055-00249473-00249804 to know why in his letter gonzales wrote 4uazfbG_t3y-01056-00249805-00250000 the Senate Judiciary Committee that he 4uazfbG_t3y-01057-00250001-00250221 defined TSP as the program the president 4uazfbG_t3y-01058-00250223-00250441 publicly confirmed a program that 4uazfbG_t3y-01059-00250442-00250653 targets communications where one party 4uazfbG_t3y-01060-00250654-00250854 is outside the United States and as to 4uazfbG_t3y-01061-00250855-00250990 which the government had reason to 4uazfbG_t3y-01062-00250991-00251151 believe at least one party to the 4uazfbG_t3y-01063-00251152-00251379 communication as a member of al-qaeda or 4uazfbG_t3y-01064-00251380-00251592 an affiliated terrorist organization 4uazfbG_t3y-01065-00251594-00251952 indeed prior to the 2007 letter Gonzales 4uazfbG_t3y-01066-00251953-00252201 provided the same definition of TSP in 4uazfbG_t3y-01067-00252202-00252408 several public appearances leading up to 4uazfbG_t3y-01068-00252409-00252646 a hearing in Congress on February 6th 4uazfbG_t3y-01069-00252646-00253042 2006 in March 2004 the TSP operations 4uazfbG_t3y-01070-00253042-00253300 codenamed stellar wind became the focal 4uazfbG_t3y-01071-00253301-00253465 point for a dispute between the White 4uazfbG_t3y-01072-00253466-00253663 House and then acting Attorney General 4uazfbG_t3y-01073-00253664-00253900 James B Comey resulting in a dramatic 4uazfbG_t3y-01074-00253901-00254079 late-night meeting between Gonzalez 4uazfbG_t3y-01075-00254080-00254212 Comey the bedridden 4uazfbG_t3y-01076-00254213-00254448 AG John Ashcroft and other DOJ officials 4uazfbG_t3y-01077-00254450-00254673 in a George Washington University 4uazfbG_t3y-01078-00254675-00254904 hospital room according to initial 4uazfbG_t3y-01079-00254905-00255144 statements by Gonzalez the disagreement 4uazfbG_t3y-01080-00255146-00255391 was not over TSP rather he claimed it 4uazfbG_t3y-01081-00255392-00255565 concerned other classified intelligence 4uazfbG_t3y-01082-00255566-00255798 activities which fell under the PSP 4uazfbG_t3y-01083-00255800-00255956 which had not been disclosed 4uazfbG_t3y-01084-00255957-00256192 however Comey contended that the 4uazfbG_t3y-01085-00256192-00256363 incident which had culminated in a 4uazfbG_t3y-01086-00256364-00256560 heated phone conversation following the 4uazfbG_t3y-01087-00256561-00256752 hospital visit had indeed been over the 4uazfbG_t3y-01088-00256753-00257019 activities comprising the TSP through a 4uazfbG_t3y-01089-00257021-00257253 spokesperson gonzales later denied his 4uazfbG_t3y-01090-00257254-00257442 original assertion that the dispute was 4uazfbG_t3y-01091-00257444-00257676 over TSP claiming that he had misspoken 4uazfbG_t3y-01092-00257677-00257952 the controversy over these conflicting 4uazfbG_t3y-01093-00257953-00258132 statements led Senator Charles Schumer 4uazfbG_t3y-01094-00258133-00258348 to request appointment of a special 4uazfbG_t3y-01095-00258350-00258589 prosecutor to investigate if gonzales 4uazfbG_t3y-01096-00258590-00258807 had committed perjury in testimony to 4uazfbG_t3y-01097-00258808-00259042 the Senate Judiciary Committee on May 15 4uazfbG_t3y-01098-00259042-00259291 2007 former Deputy Attorney General 4uazfbG_t3y-01099-00259292-00259527 Comey was asked to recall the events of 4uazfbG_t3y-01100-00259528-00259809 the evening of March 10 2004 when at the 4uazfbG_t3y-01101-00259810-00260017 behest of President Bush Gonzales and 4uazfbG_t3y-01102-00260017-00260259 Bush's then chief of staff Andrew H Carr 4uazfbG_t3y-01103-00260260-00260488 jr. sought to bypass commis refusal to 4uazfbG_t3y-01104-00260489-00260733 authorize a particular classified 4uazfbG_t3y-01105-00260734-00261003 program by appealing to the ailing John 4uazfbG_t3y-01106-00261004-00261207 Ashcroft in a visit to his hospital 4uazfbG_t3y-01107-00261208-00261426 bedside as he recovered from surgery for 4uazfbG_t3y-01108-00261427-00261533 pancreatitis 4uazfbG_t3y-01109-00261534-00261798 according to Comey he had consulted with 4uazfbG_t3y-01110-00261800-00262051 AG Ashcroft prior to his hospitalization 4uazfbG_t3y-01111-00262052-00262222 and though Ashcroft had previously 4uazfbG_t3y-01112-00262223-00262434 signed off on the program many times in 4uazfbG_t3y-01113-00262435-00262570 previous years the two 4uazfbG_t3y-01114-00262571-00262720 them came to agree that there had arisen 4uazfbG_t3y-01115-00262721-00262942 legitimate concerns which interfered 4uazfbG_t3y-01116-00262943-00263077 with the ability of the Attorney 4uazfbG_t3y-01117-00263078-00263281 General's Office to certify the 4uazfbG_t3y-01118-00263282-00263524 program's legality which was our 4uazfbG_t3y-01119-00263525-00263787 obligation for the program to be renewed 4uazfbG_t3y-01120-00263788-00264070 more than a week later Comey continued 4uazfbG_t3y-01121-00264071-00264277 Ashcroft had become extremely ill and 4uazfbG_t3y-01122-00264278-00264499 his wife had forbidden any visitors to 4uazfbG_t3y-01123-00264500-00264679 his hospital room so when he and the 4uazfbG_t3y-01124-00264680-00264868 other officials met at his bedside on 4uazfbG_t3y-01125-00264869-00265057 March 10th he was very concerned about 4uazfbG_t3y-01126-00265058-00265264 general Ashcroft's ability to think 4uazfbG_t3y-01127-00265265-00265549 clearly about the issue at hand in what 4uazfbG_t3y-01128-00265550-00265771 mr. Gonzalez carrying an envelope and 4uazfbG_t3y-01129-00265772-00266056 mr. cart they came over and stood by the 4uazfbG_t3y-01130-00266057-00266275 bed they greeted the Attorney General 4uazfbG_t3y-01131-00266276-00266535 very briefly and then mr. Gonzales began 4uazfbG_t3y-01132-00266536-00266704 to discuss why they were there to seek 4uazfbG_t3y-01133-00266705-00266895 his approval 4uazfbG_t3y-01134-00266896-00267192 I was very upset I was angry I thought I 4uazfbG_t3y-01135-00267193-00267357 had just witnessed an effort to take 4uazfbG_t3y-01136-00267358-00267564 advantage of a very sick man who did not 4uazfbG_t3y-01137-00267565-00267756 have the powers of the Attorney General 4uazfbG_t3y-01138-00267757-00268022 because they had been transferred to me 4uazfbG_t3y-01139-00268023-00268329 later testimony from Gonzales and others 4uazfbG_t3y-01140-00268330-00268530 confirmed that Ashcroft did not seem 4uazfbG_t3y-01141-00268531-00268755 disoriented but in fact seemed lucid 4uazfbG_t3y-01142-00268756-00268974 enough to describe to Cardon Gonzales in 4uazfbG_t3y-01143-00268975-00269154 great detail the basis of the 4uazfbG_t3y-01144-00269155-00269364 department's legal arguments and even to 4uazfbG_t3y-01145-00269365-00269547 complain about clearance decisions by 4uazfbG_t3y-01146-00269548-00269868 the president relative to the TSP Comey 4uazfbG_t3y-01147-00269869-00270024 also testified that there was 4uazfbG_t3y-01148-00270025-00270204 significant dissent among top law 4uazfbG_t3y-01149-00270205-00270387 enforcement officers over the program 4uazfbG_t3y-01150-00270388-00270560 although he did not specifically 4uazfbG_t3y-01151-00270561-00270843 identify it in the hearing moreover in 4uazfbG_t3y-01152-00270844-00270981 light of the incident at the hospital 4uazfbG_t3y-01153-00270982-00271275 top Justice Department officials were 4uazfbG_t3y-01154-00271276-00271518 prepared to resign over it Jack 4uazfbG_t3y-01155-00271519-00271731 Goldsmith the former head of the office 4uazfbG_t3y-01156-00271732-00271896 of legal counsel at the Justice 4uazfbG_t3y-01157-00271897-00272084 Department corroborates many of the 4uazfbG_t3y-01158-00272085-00272289 details of Comey Senate testimony 4uazfbG_t3y-01159-00272290-00272556 regarding the March 10th 2004 hospital 4uazfbG_t3y-01160-00272557-00272759 room visit in a preview of his book the 4uazfbG_t3y-01161-00272760-00273027 terror presidency which was to be 4uazfbG_t3y-01162-00273028-00273332 published in fall 2007 in the September 4uazfbG_t3y-01163-00273333-00273573 9th 2007 issue of The New York Times 4uazfbG_t3y-01164-00273574-00273819 Magazine Jeffrey Rosen reports on an 4uazfbG_t3y-01165-00273820-00274026 extended interview he had with Goldsmith 4uazfbG_t3y-01166-00274027-00274218 who was also in the hospital room that 4uazfbG_t3y-01167-00274219-00274476 night as he recalled it to me 4uazfbG_t3y-01168-00274477-00274680 Goldsmith received a call in the evening 4uazfbG_t3y-01169-00274681-00274887 from his deputy Philbin telling him to 4uazfbG_t3y-01170-00274888-00275019 go to the George Washington University 4uazfbG_t3y-01171-00275020-00275307 Hospital immediately since Gonzales and 4uazfbG_t3y-01172-00275308-00275547 card were on the way there Goldsmith 4uazfbG_t3y-01173-00275548-00275735 raced to the hospital double-parked 4uazfbG_t3y-01174-00275736-00275954 outside and walked into a dark room 4uazfbG_t3y-01175-00275955-00276209 Ashcroft lay with a bright light shining 4uazfbG_t3y-01176-00276210-00276420 on him in tubes and wires coming out of 4uazfbG_t3y-01177-00276421-00276518 his body 4uazfbG_t3y-01178-00276519-00276801 suddenly Gonzales and card came in the 4uazfbG_t3y-01179-00276802-00276948 room and announced that they were there 4uazfbG_t3y-01180-00276949-00277092 in connection with the classified 4uazfbG_t3y-01181-00277093-00277356 program Ashcroft who looked like he was 4uazfbG_t3y-01182-00277357-00277652 near death sort of puffed up his chest 4uazfbG_t3y-01183-00277653-00277958 Goldsmith recalls all of a sudden energy 4uazfbG_t3y-01184-00277959-00278250 and color came into his face and he said 4uazfbG_t3y-01185-00278251-00278451 that he didn't appreciate them coming to 4uazfbG_t3y-01186-00278452-00278679 visit him under those circumstances that 4uazfbG_t3y-01187-00278680-00278868 he had concerns about the matter they 4uazfbG_t3y-01188-00278869-00279083 were asking about and that in any event 4uazfbG_t3y-01189-00279084-00279288 he wasn't the Attorney General at the 4uazfbG_t3y-01190-00279289-00279627 moment Jim Comey was he actually gave a 4uazfbG_t3y-01191-00279628-00279846 two-minute speech and I was sure at the 4uazfbG_t3y-01192-00279847-00280143 end of it he was going to die it was the 4uazfbG_t3y-01193-00280144-00280257 most amazing see 4uazfbG_t3y-01194-00280258-00280479 I've ever witnessed 4uazfbG_t3y-01195-00280480-00280743 after a bit of silence Goldsmith told me 4uazfbG_t3y-01196-00280744-00280959 gonzales thanked Ashcroft and he and 4uazfbG_t3y-01197-00280960-00281139 card walked out of the room at that 4uazfbG_t3y-01198-00281140-00281496 moment Goldsmith recalled mrs. Ashcroft 4uazfbG_t3y-01199-00281497-00281697 who obviously couldn't believe what she 4uazfbG_t3y-01200-00281698-00281925 saw happening to her sick husband looked 4uazfbG_t3y-01201-00281926-00282129 at Gonzales and card as they walked out 4uazfbG_t3y-01202-00282130-00282315 of the room and stuck her tongue out at 4uazfbG_t3y-01203-00282316-00282573 them she had no idea what we were 4uazfbG_t3y-01204-00282574-00282660 discussing 4uazfbG_t3y-01205-00282661-00282855 but this sweet looking woman sticking 4uazfbG_t3y-01206-00282856-00283014 out her tongue was the ultimate 4uazfbG_t3y-01207-00283015-00283311 expression of disapproval it captured 4uazfbG_t3y-01208-00283312-00283588 the feeling in the room perfectly 4uazfbG_t3y-01209-00283589-00283846 Komi also testified that Ashcroft 4uazfbG_t3y-01210-00283847-00284172 expressed himself in very strong terms 4uazfbG_t3y-01211-00284173-00284451 Goldsmith testified that Ashcroft spoke 4uazfbG_t3y-01212-00284452-00284679 at length about the legal issue attorney 4uazfbG_t3y-01213-00284680-00284941 general Ashcroft 4uazfbG_t3y-01214-00284942-00285199 gave a couple of minute speech in which 4uazfbG_t3y-01215-00285200-00285541 he said that he shared the Justice 4uazfbG_t3y-01216-00285542-00285850 Department's concerns although he was 4uazfbG_t3y-01217-00285851-00286032 not present for the conversation between 4uazfbG_t3y-01218-00286033-00286329 Gonzales and Ashcroft FBI director Bob 4uazfbG_t3y-01219-00286330-00286612 Muller testified Ashcroft complained to 4uazfbG_t3y-01220-00286613-00286851 judge Gonzales about Whitehouse 4uazfbG_t3y-01221-00286852-00287050 compartmentalization rules preventing 4uazfbG_t3y-01222-00287051-00287263 Ashcroft from getting the advice he 4uazfbG_t3y-01223-00287264-00287692 needed on July 24 2007 gonzales 4uazfbG_t3y-01224-00287693-00287890 testified that he and card were also 4uazfbG_t3y-01225-00287891-00288102 concerned about Ashcroft's competency 4uazfbG_t3y-01226-00288103-00288306 obviously there was concern about 4uazfbG_t3y-01227-00288307-00288579 general Ashcroft skin' dition and we 4uazfbG_t3y-01228-00288580-00288775 would not have sought nor did we intend 4uazfbG_t3y-01229-00288776-00288949 to get any approval from general 4uazfbG_t3y-01230-00288950-00289179 Ashcroft if in fact he wasn't fully 4uazfbG_t3y-01231-00289180-00289453 competent to make the decision in 4uazfbG_t3y-01232-00289454-00289656 response to a question from Senator 4uazfbG_t3y-01233-00289657-00289897 hatch gonzales continued obviously we 4uazfbG_t3y-01234-00289898-00290050 were concerned about the condition of 4uazfbG_t3y-01235-00290051-00290344 general Ashcroft we obviously knew he 4uazfbG_t3y-01236-00290345-00290566 had been ill and had surgery and we 4uazfbG_t3y-01237-00290567-00290767 never had any intent to ask anything of 4uazfbG_t3y-01238-00290768-00290910 him if we did not feel that he was 4uazfbG_t3y-01239-00290911-00291178 competent when we got there I will just 4uazfbG_t3y-01240-00291179-00291378 say that mr. Ashcroft did most of the 4uazfbG_t3y-01241-00291379-00291613 talking we were there maybe five minutes 4uazfbG_t3y-01242-00291614-00291925 five to six minutes mr. Ashcroft talked 4uazfbG_t3y-01243-00291926-00292126 about the legal issues in a lucid form 4uazfbG_t3y-01244-00292127-00292288 as I've heard him talk about legal 4uazfbG_t3y-01245-00292289-00292570 issues in the White House during the 4uazfbG_t3y-01246-00292571-00292833 July 24th hearing Gonzales testimony 4uazfbG_t3y-01247-00292834-00293034 lasted for almost four hours before the 4uazfbG_t3y-01248-00293035-00293310 Senate Judiciary Committee he appeared 4uazfbG_t3y-01249-00293311-00293478 to contradict the earlier statements 4uazfbG_t3y-01250-00293479-00293653 made by James Comey regarding the 4uazfbG_t3y-01251-00293654-00293916 hospital room meeting with John Ashcroft 4uazfbG_t3y-01252-00293917-00294214 mr. commis testimony about the hospital 4uazfbG_t3y-01253-00294215-00294384 visit was about other intelligence 4uazfbG_t3y-01254-00294385-00294616 activities disagreement over other 4uazfbG_t3y-01255-00294617-00294885 intelligence activities that's how we'd 4uazfbG_t3y-01256-00294886-00295140 clarify it Senator Chuck Schumer 4uazfbG_t3y-01257-00295141-00295383 confronted Gonzales over the statement 4uazfbG_t3y-01258-00295384-00295672 that is not what mr. Comey says that is 4uazfbG_t3y-01259-00295673-00295934 not what the people in the room say 4uazfbG_t3y-01260-00295935-00296239 Gonzales responded that's how we clarify 4uazfbG_t3y-01261-00296240-00296268 it 4uazfbG_t3y-01262-00296269-00296559 however the DOJ inspector general's 4uazfbG_t3y-01263-00296560-00296730 report concluded that there was nothing 4uazfbG_t3y-01264-00296731-00296941 false or intentionally misleading in 4uazfbG_t3y-01265-00296942-00297156 Gonzales account the inspector general 4uazfbG_t3y-01266-00297157-00297337 also concluded that the dispute between 4uazfbG_t3y-01267-00297338-00297541 the White House and the DOJ concerned 4uazfbG_t3y-01268-00297542-00297838 other intelligence activities which 4uazfbG_t3y-01269-00297839-00297991 though they had been implemented through 4uazfbG_t3y-01270-00297992-00298198 the same presidential authorization were 4uazfbG_t3y-01271-00298199-00298324 not the same as the Commun 4uazfbG_t3y-01272-00298325-00298510 occations interception activities that 4uazfbG_t3y-01273-00298511-00298726 the president publicly identified as the 4uazfbG_t3y-01274-00298727-00298894 terrorist surveillance program 4uazfbG_t3y-01275-00298895-00299176 the DOJ Inspector General agreed with 4uazfbG_t3y-01276-00299177-00299368 Gonzales noting in his report that the 4uazfbG_t3y-01277-00299369-00299635 dispute which resulted in the visit to 4uazfbG_t3y-01278-00299636-00299905 attorney general Ashcroft hospital room 4uazfbG_t3y-01279-00299906-00300166 by gonzales and card and brought several 4uazfbG_t3y-01280-00300167-00300472 senior DOJ and FBI officials to the 4uazfbG_t3y-01281-00300473-00300730 brink of resignations concerned certain 4uazfbG_t3y-01282-00300731-00300934 of the other intelligence activities 4uazfbG_t3y-01283-00300935-00301057 that were different from the 4uazfbG_t3y-01284-00301058-00301282 communication interception activities 4uazfbG_t3y-01285-00301283-00301492 that the president later publicly 4uazfbG_t3y-01286-00301493-00301639 acknowledged as the terrorist 4uazfbG_t3y-01287-00301640-00301831 surveillance program that that had been 4uazfbG_t3y-01288-00301832-00301975 implemented through the same 4uazfbG_t3y-01289-00301976-00302284 presidential authorization as the IG 4uazfbG_t3y-01290-00302285-00302578 report confirms the dispute involved 4uazfbG_t3y-01291-00302579-00302827 other intelligence activities it was not 4uazfbG_t3y-01292-00302828-00303034 about TSP through his testimony before 4uazfbG_t3y-01293-00303035-00303268 Congress on issues ranging from the 4uazfbG_t3y-01294-00303269-00303550 Patriot Act to US Attorney firings he 4uazfbG_t3y-01295-00303551-00303856 commonly admitted ignorant the response 4uazfbG_t3y-01296-00303857-00304069 to Gonzalez's testimony by those 4uazfbG_t3y-01297-00304070-00304309 senators serving on both the judiciary 4uazfbG_t3y-01298-00304310-00304522 and intelligence committees was one of 4uazfbG_t3y-01299-00304523-00304855 disbelief Russ Feingold who is a member 4uazfbG_t3y-01300-00304856-00305104 of both the judiciary and intelligence 4uazfbG_t3y-01301-00305105-00305428 committees said I believe your testimony 4uazfbG_t3y-01302-00305429-00305656 is misleading at best which Sheldon 4uazfbG_t3y-01303-00305657-00305899 Whitehouse also a member of both 4uazfbG_t3y-01304-00305900-00306274 committees concurred with saying I have 4uazfbG_t3y-01305-00306275-00306490 exactly the same perception Chuck 4uazfbG_t3y-01306-00306491-00306793 Schumer said gonzales was not being 4uazfbG_t3y-01307-00306794-00306987 straightforward with the committee 4uazfbG_t3y-01308-00306988-00307246 Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick 4uazfbG_t3y-01309-00307247-00307528 Leahy said I just don't trust you and 4uazfbG_t3y-01310-00307529-00307789 urged Gonzales to carefully review his 4uazfbG_t3y-01311-00307790-00308062 testimony the ranking Republican on the 4uazfbG_t3y-01312-00308063-00308350 Judiciary Committee Arlen Specter said 4uazfbG_t3y-01313-00308351-00308671 to Gonzales your credibility has been 4uazfbG_t3y-01314-00308672-00308791 breached to the point of being 4uazfbG_t3y-01315-00308792-00309061 actionable Leahy inspectors comments 4uazfbG_t3y-01316-00309062-00309238 were interpreted as warnings that 4uazfbG_t3y-01317-00309239-00309415 Gonzales might have been perjuring 4uazfbG_t3y-01318-00309416-00309742 himself after the meeting Intelligence 4uazfbG_t3y-01319-00309743-00309976 Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller said 4uazfbG_t3y-01320-00309977-00310290 gonzales was being untruthful 4uazfbG_t3y-01321-00310291-00310534 Rockefellers sentiments were echoed by 4uazfbG_t3y-01322-00310535-00310777 Jane Harman a senior member of the House 4uazfbG_t3y-01323-00310778-00310978 Intelligence Committee who accused 4uazfbG_t3y-01324-00310979-00311317 Gonzales a selectively de classifying 4uazfbG_t3y-01325-00311318-00311536 information to defend his own conduct on 4uazfbG_t3y-01326-00311537-00311718 July 26th 2000 4uazfbG_t3y-01327-00311719-00311940 seven The Associated Press obtained a 4uazfbG_t3y-01328-00311941-00312138 four-page memorandum from the office of 4uazfbG_t3y-01329-00312139-00312294 former Director of National Intelligence 4uazfbG_t3y-01330-00312295-00312785 John Dee Negroponte a dated May 17 2006 4uazfbG_t3y-01331-00312786-00312987 which appeared to contradict Gonzalez's 4uazfbG_t3y-01332-00312988-00313194 testimony the previous day regarding the 4uazfbG_t3y-01333-00313195-00313481 subject of a March 10 2004 emergency 4uazfbG_t3y-01334-00313482-00313674 congressional briefing which preceded 4uazfbG_t3y-01335-00313675-00313845 his hospital room meeting with former 4uazfbG_t3y-01336-00313846-00314103 Attorney General John Ashcroft James B 4uazfbG_t3y-01337-00314104-00314301 Comey and former White House chief of 4uazfbG_t3y-01338-00314302-00314655 staff Andrew H Carr jr. however there is 4uazfbG_t3y-01339-00314656-00314973 no contradiction as the July 1st 2009 IG 4uazfbG_t3y-01340-00314974-00315240 report confirms shortly after the 4uazfbG_t3y-01341-00315241-00315458 September 11th attacks the president 4uazfbG_t3y-01342-00315459-00315635 authorized a number of intelligence 4uazfbG_t3y-01343-00315636-00315860 activities reported by the IG on the 4uazfbG_t3y-01344-00315861-00316188 president's surveillance program PSP one 4uazfbG_t3y-01345-00316189-00316430 set of activities were TSP but the 4uazfbG_t3y-01346-00316431-00316596 dispute was about certain of the other 4uazfbG_t3y-01347-00316597-00316923 intelligence activities the IG report is 4uazfbG_t3y-01348-00316924-00317265 clear on P 37 that the TSP was not the 4uazfbG_t3y-01349-00317266-00317426 subject of the hospital room 4uazfbG_t3y-01350-00317427-00317595 confrontation or the threatened 4uazfbG_t3y-01351-00317596-00317973 resignations P 36 of the Inspector 4uazfbG_t3y-01352-00317974-00318162 General report goes on to say that the 4uazfbG_t3y-01353-00318163-00318291 White House had a major disagreement 4uazfbG_t3y-01354-00318292-00318621 related to PSP the dispute which 4uazfbG_t3y-01355-00318622-00318789 resulted in the visit to attorney 4uazfbG_t3y-01356-00318790-00319007 general Ashcroft hospital room by 4uazfbG_t3y-01357-00319008-00319200 Gonzales n card and brought several 4uazfbG_t3y-01358-00319201-00319479 senior DOJ and FBI officials to the 4uazfbG_t3y-01359-00319480-00319695 brink of resignation concerned certain 4uazfbG_t3y-01360-00319696-00319869 of the other intelligence activities 4uazfbG_t3y-01361-00319870-00319974 that were different from the 4uazfbG_t3y-01362-00319975-00320180 communications interception activities 4uazfbG_t3y-01363-00320181-00320360 that the president later publicly 4uazfbG_t3y-01364-00320361-00320568 acknowledged as the TSP but that had 4uazfbG_t3y-01365-00320569-00320703 been implemented through the same 4uazfbG_t3y-01366-00320704-00320906 president authorizations on that same 4uazfbG_t3y-01367-00320907-00321157 day Federal Bureau of Investigation FBI 4uazfbG_t3y-01368-00321158-00321666 director Robert S Mulliken za losses 4uazfbG_t3y-01369-00321667-00321884 Senate Judiciary Committee testimony of 4uazfbG_t3y-01370-00321885-00322077 the previous day regarding the events of 4uazfbG_t3y-01371-00322078-00322347 March 10 2004 in his own sworn testimony 4uazfbG_t3y-01372-00322348-00322535 on that subject before the House 4uazfbG_t3y-01373-00322536-00322800 Judiciary Committee Rep Sheila 4uazfbG_t3y-01374-00322801-00322958 jackson-lee DTX 4uazfbG_t3y-01375-00322959-00323205 asked Muller did you have an opportunity 4uazfbG_t3y-01376-00323206-00323445 to talk to general Ashcroft or did he 4uazfbG_t3y-01377-00323446-00323598 discuss what was discussed in the 4uazfbG_t3y-01378-00323599-00323814 meeting with attorney general Gonzales 4uazfbG_t3y-01379-00323815-00324171 and the chief of staff he replied I did 4uazfbG_t3y-01380-00324172-00324356 have the brief discussion with attorney 4uazfbG_t3y-01381-00324357-00324690 general Ashcroft Lee went on to ask I 4uazfbG_t3y-01382-00324691-00324990 guess we used the phrase TSP terrorist 4uazfbG_t3y-01383-00324991-00325118 surveillance program 4uazfbG_t3y-01384-00325119-00325415 we use warrantless wiretapping so would 4uazfbG_t3y-01385-00325416-00325595 I be comfortable in saying that those 4uazfbG_t3y-01386-00325596-00325756 were the items that were part of the 4uazfbG_t3y-01387-00325757-00326123 discussion he responded it was the 4uazfbG_t3y-01388-00326124-00326420 discussion was on a national an NSA 4uazfbG_t3y-01389-00326421-00326695 program that has been much discussed yes 4uazfbG_t3y-01390-00326696-00327098 on Thursday August 16 2007 the House 4uazfbG_t3y-01391-00327099-00327317 Judiciary Committee released the heavily 4uazfbG_t3y-01392-00327318-00327652 redacted notes of FBI director Robert S 4uazfbG_t3y-01393-00327653-00327869 Mulliken tanned White House 4uazfbG_t3y-01394-00327870-00328118 deliberations of March 2004 which 4uazfbG_t3y-01395-00328119-00328388 included the March 10th 2004 hospital 4uazfbG_t3y-01396-00328389-00328619 room visit of Gonzales and Andrew H Carr 4uazfbG_t3y-01397-00328620-00328858 jr. on John Ashcroft in the presence of 4uazfbG_t3y-01398-00328859-00329054 then acting Attorney General James B 4uazfbG_t3y-01399-00329055-00329378 Comey the notes list 26 meetings and 4uazfbG_t3y-01400-00329379-00329570 phone conversations over three weeks 4uazfbG_t3y-01401-00329571-00329918 from March 1st to March 23rd during a 4uazfbG_t3y-01402-00329919-00330130 debate that reportedly almost led to 4uazfbG_t3y-01403-00330131-00330305 mass resignations at the Justice 4uazfbG_t3y-01404-00330306-00330479 Department and the Federal Bureau of 4uazfbG_t3y-01405-00330480-00330851 Investigation on July 26 2007 a letter 4uazfbG_t3y-01406-00330852-00331008 to Solicitor General Paul Clement 4uazfbG_t3y-01407-00331009-00331244 senators Charles Schumer Dianne 4uazfbG_t3y-01408-00331245-00331466 Feinstein Russ Feingold and Sheldon 4uazfbG_t3y-01409-00331467-00331609 Whitehouse urged that an independent 4uazfbG_t3y-01410-00331610-00331763 counsel be appointed to investigate 4uazfbG_t3y-01411-00331764-00332035 whether Gonzales had perjured himself in 4uazfbG_t3y-01412-00332036-00332165 his testimony before the Senate 4uazfbG_t3y-01413-00332166-00332396 Judiciary Committee on the previous day 4uazfbG_t3y-01414-00332397-00332642 we ask that you immediately appoint an 4uazfbG_t3y-01415-00332643-00332888 independent special counsel from outside 4uazfbG_t3y-01416-00332889-00333113 the Department of Justice to determine 4uazfbG_t3y-01417-00333114-00333329 whether attorney general Gonzales may 4uazfbG_t3y-01418-00333330-00333535 have misled Congress or perjured himself 4uazfbG_t3y-01419-00333536-00333917 in testimony before Congress the letter 4uazfbG_t3y-01420-00333918-00334172 read in part according to the July 10th 4uazfbG_t3y-01421-00334173-00334454 2009 DOJ Inspector General and 4uazfbG_t3y-01422-00334455-00334643 classified report on the president's 4uazfbG_t3y-01423-00334644-00334853 surveillance program Gonzalez did not 4uazfbG_t3y-01424-00334854-00335120 intend to mislead Congress there was no 4uazfbG_t3y-01425-00335121-00335321 finding of perjury or other criminal 4uazfbG_t3y-01426-00335322-00335624 wrongdoing by Gonzalez on Wednesday June 4uazfbG_t3y-01427-00335625-00335951 27 2007 the Senate Judiciary Committee 4uazfbG_t3y-01428-00335952-00336167 issued subpoenas to the United States 4uazfbG_t3y-01429-00336168-00336389 Department of Justice the White House 4uazfbG_t3y-01430-00336390-00336610 and Vice President Dick Cheney seeking 4uazfbG_t3y-01431-00336611-00336773 internal documents regarding the 4uazfbG_t3y-01432-00336774-00336971 program's legality and details of the 4uazfbG_t3y-01433-00336972-00337169 NSA's cooperative agreements with 4uazfbG_t3y-01434-00337170-00337379 private telecommunications corporations 4uazfbG_t3y-01435-00337380-00337643 in addition to the subpoenas committee 4uazfbG_t3y-01436-00337644-00337862 chairman Patrick Leahy sent Gonzales a 4uazfbG_t3y-01437-00337863-00338069 letter about possible false statements 4uazfbG_t3y-01438-00338070-00338243 made under oath by US Court of Appeals 4uazfbG_t3y-01439-00338244-00338495 judge Brett M Kavanaugh during his con 4uazfbG_t3y-01440-00338496-00338651 formation hearings before the committee 4uazfbG_t3y-01441-00338652-00339065 the previous year in an August 17 2007 4uazfbG_t3y-01442-00339066-00339278 reply letter to Leahy asking for an 4uazfbG_t3y-01443-00339279-00339507 extension of the August 20th deadline 4uazfbG_t3y-01444-00339508-00339794 for compliance White House Counsel Fred 4uazfbG_t3y-01445-00339795-00339958 fielding argued that the subpoenas 4uazfbG_t3y-01446-00339959-00340073 called for the production of 4uazfbG_t3y-01447-00340074-00340304 extraordinarily sensitive national 4uazfbG_t3y-01448-00340305-00340619 security information and he said much of 4uazfbG_t3y-01449-00340620-00340892 the information if not all could be 4uazfbG_t3y-01450-00340893-00341035 subject to a claim of executive 4uazfbG_t3y-01451-00341036-00341474 privilege on August 20th 2007 fielding 4uazfbG_t3y-01452-00341475-00341621 wrote to Leahy that the White House 4uazfbG_t3y-01453-00341622-00341825 needed yet more time to respond to the 4uazfbG_t3y-01454-00341826-00342038 subpoenas which prompted Leahy to reply 4uazfbG_t3y-01455-00342039-00342227 that the Senate may consider a contempt 4uazfbG_t3y-01456-00342228-00342419 of Congress citation when it returns 4uazfbG_t3y-01457-00342420-00342760 from its August recess on July 27 2007 4uazfbG_t3y-01458-00342761-00342985 both White House press secretary Tony 4uazfbG_t3y-01459-00342986-00343196 Snow and White House spokeswoman Dana 4uazfbG_t3y-01460-00343197-00343408 Perino defended Gonzalez's Senate 4uazfbG_t3y-01461-00343409-00343604 Judiciary Committee testimony regarding 4uazfbG_t3y-01462-00343605-00343895 the events of March 10th 2004 saying 4uazfbG_t3y-01463-00343896-00344059 that it did not contradict the sworn 4uazfbG_t3y-01464-00344060-00344291 House Judiciary Committee account of FBI 4uazfbG_t3y-01465-00344292-00344608 director Robert S Mulliken solace had 4uazfbG_t3y-01466-00344609-00344750 been constrained in what he could say 4uazfbG_t3y-01467-00344751-00344891 because there was a danger he would 4uazfbG_t3y-01468-00344892-00345206 divulge classified material Lee Casey a 4uazfbG_t3y-01469-00345207-00345431 former Justice Department lawyer during 4uazfbG_t3y-01470-00345432-00345653 the Ronald Reagan and George HW Bush 4uazfbG_t3y-01471-00345654-00345863 administration's told the news hour with 4uazfbG_t3y-01472-00345864-00346043 Jim Lehrer that it is likely that the 4uazfbG_t3y-01473-00346044-00346234 apparent discrepancy can be traced to 4uazfbG_t3y-01474-00346235-00346388 the fact that there are two separate 4uazfbG_t3y-01475-00346389-00346598 domestic surveillance programs the 4uazfbG_t3y-01476-00346599-00346892 program that was leaked in December 2005 4uazfbG_t3y-01477-00346893-00347189 as the Comey program it is not the 4uazfbG_t3y-01478-00347190-00347366 program that was discussed in the 4uazfbG_t3y-01479-00347367-00347522 evening when they went to attorney 4uazfbG_t3y-01480-00347523-00347843 general Ashcroft saw spittle room that 4uazfbG_t3y-01481-00347844-00348140 program we know almost nothing about we 4uazfbG_t3y-01482-00348141-00348395 can speculate about it the program about 4uazfbG_t3y-01483-00348396-00348617 which he said there was no dispute as a 4uazfbG_t3y-01484-00348618-00348815 program that was created after the 4uazfbG_t3y-01485-00348816-00349094 original program died when mr. Comey 4uazfbG_t3y-01486-00349095-00349410 refused to reauthorize it in March 2004 4uazfbG_t3y-01487-00349411-00349708 mr. Comey then essentially redid the 4uazfbG_t3y-01488-00349709-00349959 program to suit his legal concerns and 4uazfbG_t3y-01489-00349960-00350240 about that program there was no dispute 4uazfbG_t3y-01490-00350241-00350504 there was clearly a dispute about the 4uazfbG_t3y-01491-00350505-00350740 earlier form or version of the program 4uazfbG_t3y-01492-00350741-00351017 the Attorney General has not talked 4uazfbG_t3y-01493-00351018-00351281 about that program he refers to it as 4uazfbG_t3y-01494-00351282-00351614 other intelligence activities because it 4uazfbG_t3y-01495-00351615-00351880 is in fact still classified 4uazfbG_t3y-01496-00351881-00352279 on tuesday august 28 2007 one day after 4uazfbG_t3y-01497-00352280-00352492 gonzales announced his resignation as 4uazfbG_t3y-01498-00352493-00352690 attorney general effective September 4uazfbG_t3y-01499-00352691-00352988 17th Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman 4uazfbG_t3y-01500-00352989-00353176 Patrick Leahy indicated that it would 4uazfbG_t3y-01501-00353177-00353392 not affect ongoing investigations by his 4uazfbG_t3y-01502-00353393-00353596 committee I intend to get answers to 4uazfbG_t3y-01503-00353597-00353827 these questions no matter how long it 4uazfbG_t3y-01504-00353828-00354148 takes Leahy said suggesting that 4uazfbG_t3y-01505-00354149-00354334 Gonzales could face subpoenas from the 4uazfbG_t3y-01506-00354335-00354539 committee for testimony or evidence long 4uazfbG_t3y-01507-00354540-00354737 after leaving the administration you'll 4uazfbG_t3y-01508-00354738-00354955 notice that we've had people subpoenaed 4uazfbG_t3y-01509-00354956-00355112 even though they've resigned from the 4uazfbG_t3y-01510-00355113-00355423 White House Leahy said referring to 4uazfbG_t3y-01511-00355424-00355627 Harriet Aamir's the former White House 4uazfbG_t3y-01512-00355628-00355849 Counsel and Karl Rove who resigned in 4uazfbG_t3y-01513-00355850-00356087 August 2007 as the president's top 4uazfbG_t3y-01514-00356088-00356264 political aide they're still under 4uazfbG_t3y-01515-00356265-00356521 subpoena they still face contempt if 4uazfbG_t3y-01516-00356522-00356791 they don't appear gonzales testified 4uazfbG_t3y-01517-00356792-00357010 voluntarily to congress and provided 4uazfbG_t3y-01518-00357011-00357196 interviews to the inspector general on 4uazfbG_t3y-01519-00357197-00357448 numerous occasions he ordered full 4uazfbG_t3y-01520-00357449-00357682 cooperation by all Department of Justice 4uazfbG_t3y-01521-00357683-00358043 employees with ongoing investigations 4uazfbG_t3y-01522-00358044-00358379 on Thursday August 30th 2007 Justice 4uazfbG_t3y-01523-00358380-00358582 Department Inspector General Glenn a 4uazfbG_t3y-01524-00358583-00358783 fine disclosed in a letter to the Senate 4uazfbG_t3y-01525-00358784-00358991 Judiciary Committee that is part of a 4uazfbG_t3y-01526-00358992-00359206 previously ongoing investigation his 4uazfbG_t3y-01527-00359207-00359399 office is looking into whether Gonzales 4uazfbG_t3y-01528-00359400-00359593 made statements to Congress that were 4uazfbG_t3y-01529-00359594-00359835 intentionally false misleading or 4uazfbG_t3y-01530-00359836-00360122 inappropriate both about the firing of 4uazfbG_t3y-01531-00360123-00360302 federal prosecutors and about the 4uazfbG_t3y-01532-00360303-00360470 terrorist surveillance program as 4uazfbG_t3y-01533-00360471-00360658 Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy had 4uazfbG_t3y-01534-00360659-00360934 asked him to do in an August 16 2007 4uazfbG_t3y-01535-00360935-00361210 letter finds letter to Leahy said that 4uazfbG_t3y-01536-00361211-00361478 his office has ongoing investigations 4uazfbG_t3y-01537-00361479-00361681 that relate to most of the subjects 4uazfbG_t3y-01538-00361682-00361853 addressed by the Attorney General's 4uazfbG_t3y-01539-00361854-00362204 testimony that you identified fine said 4uazfbG_t3y-01540-00362205-00362345 that his office is conducting a 4uazfbG_t3y-01541-00362346-00362560 particular review relating to the 4uazfbG_t3y-01542-00362561-00362785 terrorist surveillance program as well 4uazfbG_t3y-01543-00362786-00362983 as a follow-up review of the use of 4uazfbG_t3y-01544-00362984-00363275 National Security Letters which 4uazfbG_t3y-01545-00363276-00363452 investigators used to obtain information 4uazfbG_t3y-01546-00363453-00363733 on email messages telephone calls and 4uazfbG_t3y-01547-00363734-00363883 other records from private companies 4uazfbG_t3y-01548-00363884-00364172 without court approval fine concluded 4uazfbG_t3y-01549-00364173-00364333 his investigation and found that 4uazfbG_t3y-01550-00364334-00364517 Gonzales did not intend to mislead 4uazfbG_t3y-01551-00364518-00364705 Congress it has been reported that a 4uazfbG_t3y-01552-00364706-00364906 person involved in the incident of March 4uazfbG_t3y-01553-00364907-00365162 10th 2004 hospital room meeting with 4uazfbG_t3y-01554-00365163-00365372 John Ashcroft has said that much of the 4uazfbG_t3y-01555-00365373-00365581 confusion and conflicting testimony that 4uazfbG_t3y-01556-00365582-00365765 occurred about intelligence activities 4uazfbG_t3y-01557-00365766-00365951 was because certain programs were so 4uazfbG_t3y-01558-00365952-00366140 classified that they were impossible to 4uazfbG_t3y-01559-00366141-00366398 speak about clearly the Department of 4uazfbG_t3y-01560-00366399-00366602 Justice Inspector General recognized 4uazfbG_t3y-01561-00366603-00366779 that Gonzales was in the difficult 4uazfbG_t3y-01562-00366780-00366962 position of testifying before the Senate 4uazfbG_t3y-01563-00366963-00367178 Judiciary Committee about a highly 4uazfbG_t3y-01564-00367179-00367400 classified program in an open forum on 4uazfbG_t3y-01565-00367401-00367703 July 31st 2007 Director of National 4uazfbG_t3y-01566-00367704-00367946 Intelligence Mike McConnell confirmed in 4uazfbG_t3y-01567-00367947-00368134 a letter to Senator Specter that the 4uazfbG_t3y-01568-00368135-00368387 activities publicly referred to as the 4uazfbG_t3y-01569-00368388-00368635 TSP did not exhaust the activities 4uazfbG_t3y-01570-00368636-00368900 subject to periodic authorization by the 4uazfbG_t3y-01571-00368901-00369212 president Gonzales was then able to 4uazfbG_t3y-01572-00369213-00369535 explain publicly on August 1st 2007 that 4uazfbG_t3y-01573-00369536-00369854 while TSP was an extraordinary activity 4uazfbG_t3y-01574-00369855-00370052 that presented novel and difficult 4uazfbG_t3y-01575-00370053-00370295 issues and was as he understood the 4uazfbG_t3y-01576-00370296-00370529 subject of intense deliberations within 4uazfbG_t3y-01577-00370530-00370862 the department the aspect of mr. commis 4uazfbG_t3y-01578-00370863-00371059 advise SiC that prompted the gang of 4uazfbG_t3y-01579-00371060-00371339 eight meeting on March 10th 2004 was not 4uazfbG_t3y-01580-00371340-00371426 about TSP 4uazfbG_t3y-01581-00371427-00371642 but was about another or other aspects 4uazfbG_t3y-01582-00371643-00371822 of the intelligence activities in 4uazfbG_t3y-01583-00371823-00371984 question which activities remain 4uazfbG_t3y-01584-00371985-00372293 classified Comey himself acknowledged 4uazfbG_t3y-01585-00372294-00372467 that the nature of the disagreement at 4uazfbG_t3y-01586-00372468-00372782 issue on March 10 2004 is a very 4uazfbG_t3y-01587-00372783-00373043 complicated matter but he declined to 4uazfbG_t3y-01588-00373044-00373286 discuss in a public setting professor 4uazfbG_t3y-01589-00373287-00373487 Jack Goldsmith appears to acknowledge 4uazfbG_t3y-01590-00373488-00373691 that there is a difference between TSP 4uazfbG_t3y-01591-00373692-00373844 and other classified intelligence 4uazfbG_t3y-01592-00373845-00374072 activities that prompted the March 10th 4uazfbG_t3y-01593-00374073-00374327 2004 gang of eight meeting and visit to 4uazfbG_t3y-01594-00374328-00374994 general Ashcroft's hospital room 4uazfbG_t3y-01595-00374995-00375513 topic objectivity 4uazfbG_t3y-01596-00375514-00375757 gonzales has had a long relationship 4uazfbG_t3y-01597-00375758-00376014 with former president george w bush 4uazfbG_t3y-01598-00376015-00376228 gonzales served as a general counsel 4uazfbG_t3y-01599-00376229-00376549 when bush was the governor of texas such 4uazfbG_t3y-01600-00376550-00376747 relationship made critics question 4uazfbG_t3y-01601-00376748-00376915 whether he would maintain independence 4uazfbG_t3y-01602-00376916-00377086 in his administration of the US 4uazfbG_t3y-01603-00377087-00377383 Department of Justice Gonzales has been 4uazfbG_t3y-01604-00377384-00377683 called Bush's yes-man even though the 4uazfbG_t3y-01605-00377684-00377917 advice given by Gonzales was based and 4uazfbG_t3y-01606-00377918-00378145 supported by other lawyers specifically 4uazfbG_t3y-01607-00378146-00378346 the Department of Justice charged by 4uazfbG_t3y-01608-00378347-00378559 statute to provide legal advice to the 4uazfbG_t3y-01609-00378560-00378757 president critics claimed that Gonzales 4uazfbG_t3y-01610-00378758-00378990 gave only the legal advice Bush wanted 4uazfbG_t3y-01611-00378991-00379273 critics questioned Gonzalez's ethics and 4uazfbG_t3y-01612-00379274-00379498 professional conduct to his backers 4uazfbG_t3y-01613-00379499-00379690 Gonzales as a quiet hard-working 4uazfbG_t3y-01614-00379691-00379957 Attorney General notable for his open 4uazfbG_t3y-01615-00379958-00380158 management style in his commitment to 4uazfbG_t3y-01616-00380159-00380383 the administration of justice and to the 4uazfbG_t3y-01617-00380384-00380677 war on terrorism one publication 4uazfbG_t3y-01618-00380678-00380938 reported Gonzales contends that his 4uazfbG_t3y-01619-00380939-00381115 friendship with Bush makes him a better 4uazfbG_t3y-01620-00381116-00381334 advocate for the rule of the law within 4uazfbG_t3y-01621-00381335-00381709 the executive branch my responsibilities 4uazfbG_t3y-01622-00381710-00381865 is to ensure that the laws are enforced 4uazfbG_t3y-01623-00381866-00382087 that everyone in the country receives 4uazfbG_t3y-01624-00382088-00382351 justice under the law independent of my 4uazfbG_t3y-01625-00382352-00382495 relationship with the White House 4uazfbG_t3y-01626-00382496-00382708 independent of my relationship with the 4uazfbG_t3y-01627-00382709-00382864 President of the United States 4uazfbG_t3y-01628-00382865-00383182 he told National Journal however another 4uazfbG_t3y-01629-00383183-00383419 report states that Gonzales has a long 4uazfbG_t3y-01630-00383420-00383605 history of dogged obedience to the 4uazfbG_t3y-01631-00383606-00383773 president which often has come at the 4uazfbG_t3y-01632-00383774-00383977 cost of institutional independence and 4uazfbG_t3y-01633-00383978-00384599 adherence to the rule of law 4uazfbG_t3y-01634-00384600-00385406 topic executive order 4uazfbG_t3y-01635-00385407-00387102 executive order 13224 strict enak cess 4uazfbG_t3y-01636-00387103-00387359 to the records of former presidents the 4uazfbG_t3y-01637-00387360-00387546 order asserted the president's power to 4uazfbG_t3y-01638-00387547-00387723 delay the release of presidential 4uazfbG_t3y-01639-00387724-00387908 records longer than the congressionally 4uazfbG_t3y-01640-00387909-00388133 mandated period of 12 years after the 4uazfbG_t3y-01641-00388134-00388652 president leaves office executive order 4uazfbG_t3y-01642-00388653-00389070 13224 dur twelve thousand six hundred 4uazfbG_t3y-01643-00389071-00389309 sixty-seven on the same subject and had 4uazfbG_t3y-01644-00389310-00389472 the effect of delaying the release of 4uazfbG_t3y-01645-00389473-00389643 reagan's papers which were due to be 4uazfbG_t3y-01646-00389644-00389847 made public when Bush took office in 4uazfbG_t3y-01647-00389848-00390153 2001 while the policy was being drawn up 4uazfbG_t3y-01648-00390154-00390324 gonzales as counsel to the president 4uazfbG_t3y-01649-00390325-00390567 issued a series of orders to the u.s. 4uazfbG_t3y-01650-00390568-00390732 archivist to delay the release of 4uazfbG_t3y-01651-00390733-00390981 reagan's records this order was the 4uazfbG_t3y-01652-00390982-00391160 subject of a number of lawsuits and 4uazfbG_t3y-01653-00391161-00391442 congressional attempts to overturn it in 4uazfbG_t3y-01654-00391443-00391719 2007 a DC district court ordered the 4uazfbG_t3y-01655-00391720-00391947 archivist not to obey this order finding 4uazfbG_t3y-01656-00391948-00392193 it to be arbitrary capricious and 4uazfbG_t3y-01657-00392194-00392432 contrary to law in violation of the 4uazfbG_t3y-01658-00392433-00392757 Administrative Procedure Act On January 4uazfbG_t3y-01659-00392758-00393069 21st 2009 his first day in office 4uazfbG_t3y-01660-00393070-00393351 President Barack Obama revoked executive 4uazfbG_t3y-01661-00393352-00394957 order 13224 dur 12,600 67 4uazfbG_t3y-01662-00394958-00395581 topic energy task force secrecy 4uazfbG_t3y-01663-00395582-00395807 Gonzales thought with Congress to keep 4uazfbG_t3y-01664-00395808-00396029 Vice President Dick Cheney's energy task 4uazfbG_t3y-01665-00396030-00396310 force documents from being reviewed his 4uazfbG_t3y-01666-00396311-00396494 arguments were ultimately upheld by 4uazfbG_t3y-01667-00396495-00396835 courts on July 2nd 2004 the Supreme 4uazfbG_t3y-01668-00396836-00396995 Court ruled in favor of the vice 4uazfbG_t3y-01669-00396996-00397190 president but remanded the case back to 4uazfbG_t3y-01670-00397191-00397592 the DC Circuit on May 11th 2005 the DC 4uazfbG_t3y-01671-00397593-00397784 Circuit threw out the lawsuit and ruled 4uazfbG_t3y-01672-00397785-00397955 the vice president was free to meet in 4uazfbG_t3y-01673-00397956-00398099 private with energy industry 4uazfbG_t3y-01674-00398100-00398348 representatives in 2001 while drawing up 4uazfbG_t3y-01675-00398349-00399020 the president's energy policy 4uazfbG_t3y-01676-00399021-00399581 topic attorney general 4uazfbG_t3y-01677-00399582-00399849 Gonzalez's name was sometimes floated as 4uazfbG_t3y-01678-00399850-00400056 a possible nominee to the United States 4uazfbG_t3y-01679-00400057-00400230 Supreme Court during Bush's first 4uazfbG_t3y-01680-00400231-00400620 presidential term on November 10 2004 it 4uazfbG_t3y-01681-00400621-00400785 was announced that he would be nominated 4uazfbG_t3y-01682-00400786-00400956 to replace United States Attorney 4uazfbG_t3y-01683-00400957-00401187 General John Ashcroft for Bush's second 4uazfbG_t3y-01684-00401188-00401475 term Gonzales was regarded as a moderate 4uazfbG_t3y-01685-00401476-00401679 compared to Ashcroft because he was not 4uazfbG_t3y-01686-00401680-00401907 seen as opposing abortion or affirmative 4uazfbG_t3y-01687-00401908-00402141 action although he has never stated 4uazfbG_t3y-01688-00402142-00402366 publicly his support for abortion and 4uazfbG_t3y-01689-00402367-00402543 later as Attorney General was the 4uazfbG_t3y-01690-00402544-00402699 plaintiff in the Supreme Court case 4uazfbG_t3y-01691-00402700-00403035 Gonzales v Carhartt which reinforced the 4uazfbG_t3y-01692-00403036-00403221 ban on late term abortion that was 4uazfbG_t3y-01693-00403222-00403434 previously overturned and had stated 4uazfbG_t3y-01694-00403435-00403662 publicly his opposition to racial quotas 4uazfbG_t3y-01695-00403663-00403872 some people assumed Gonzales did not 4uazfbG_t3y-01696-00403873-00404105 oppose abortion or affirmative action 4uazfbG_t3y-01697-00404106-00404327 according to a Texas Monthly article 4uazfbG_t3y-01698-00404328-00404532 Gonzales has never said he was 4uazfbG_t3y-01699-00404533-00404735 pro-choice and he has publicly opposed 4uazfbG_t3y-01700-00404736-00404958 racial quotas the perceived departure 4uazfbG_t3y-01701-00404959-00405114 from some conservative viewpoints 4uazfbG_t3y-01702-00405115-00405335 elicited strong opposition to Gonzales 4uazfbG_t3y-01703-00405336-00405471 that started during his Senate 4uazfbG_t3y-01704-00405472-00405624 confirmation proceedings at the 4uazfbG_t3y-01705-00405625-00405807 beginning of President Bush's second 4uazfbG_t3y-01706-00405808-00406089 term the new york times quoted anonymous 4uazfbG_t3y-01707-00406090-00406263 republican officials as saying that 4uazfbG_t3y-01708-00406264-00406452 Gonzalez's appointment to attorney 4uazfbG_t3y-01709-00406453-00406707 general was a way to bolster mr. 4uazfbG_t3y-01710-00406708-00406985 Gonzalez's credentials on route to a 4uazfbG_t3y-01711-00406986-00407217 later Supreme Court appointment Gonzales 4uazfbG_t3y-01712-00407218-00407430 enjoyed broad bipartisan support in 4uazfbG_t3y-01713-00407431-00407628 connection with his nomination including 4uazfbG_t3y-01714-00407629-00407823 the support of former Democratic HUD 4uazfbG_t3y-01715-00407824-00408072 secretary Henry Cisneros and Colorado 4uazfbG_t3y-01716-00408073-00408378 Democratic Senator Ken Salazar one 4uazfbG_t3y-01717-00408379-00408651 writer noted a senator from Pennsylvania 4uazfbG_t3y-01718-00408652-00408882 said I have always found him Alberto 4uazfbG_t3y-01719-00408883-00409109 Gonzales to be completely forthright 4uazfbG_t3y-01720-00409110-00409245 brutally honest 4uazfbG_t3y-01721-00409246-00409460 in some cases telling me things I did 4uazfbG_t3y-01722-00409461-00409674 not want to hear but always forthright 4uazfbG_t3y-01723-00409675-00410043 always honest sincere serious this is a 4uazfbG_t3y-01724-00410043-00410222 serious man who takes the 4uazfbG_t3y-01725-00410222-00410414 responsibilities that have been given to 4uazfbG_t3y-01726-00410416-00410607 him as a great privilege and a great 4uazfbG_t3y-01727-00410608-00410864 honor which he holds very carefully and 4uazfbG_t3y-01728-00410866-00411099 gently in his hands said another senator 4uazfbG_t3y-01729-00411100-00411387 this one from Kentucky Judge Gonzales 4uazfbG_t3y-01730-00411388-00411603 has proof that in America there are no 4uazfbG_t3y-01731-00411604-00411959 artificial barriers to success a man or 4uazfbG_t3y-01732-00411960-00412170 woman can climb to any height that his 4uazfbG_t3y-01733-00412171-00412446 or her talents can take them for judge 4uazfbG_t3y-01734-00412447-00412659 Gonzales that is a very high altitude 4uazfbG_t3y-01735-00412660-00412932 indeed and luckily for his country 4uazfbG_t3y-01736-00412933-00413252 he has not quite finished climbing yet 4uazfbG_t3y-01737-00413253-00413547 the nomination was approved on February 4uazfbG_t3y-01738-00413547-00413793 3rd 2005 with the confirming vote 4uazfbG_t3y-01739-00413793-00414182 largely split along party lines 62 36 54 4uazfbG_t3y-01740-00414183-00414468 Republicans and 6 Democrats in favor and 4uazfbG_t3y-01741-00414468-00414710 36 Democrats against along with 4 4uazfbG_t3y-01742-00414712-00414903 abstentions 3 Democrat and one 4uazfbG_t3y-01743-00414904-00415218 Republican he was sworn in on February 4uazfbG_t3y-01744-00415218-00415818 3rd 2005 4uazfbG_t3y-01745-00415819-00416139 topic speculation over a Supreme Court 4uazfbG_t3y-01746-00416141-00416568 nomination 4uazfbG_t3y-01747-00416570-00416857 shortly before the July 1st 2005 4uazfbG_t3y-01748-00416858-00417060 retirement announcement of Associate 4uazfbG_t3y-01749-00417062-00417226 Justice of the Supreme Court of the 4uazfbG_t3y-01750-00417227-00417475 United States and rodeo Connor rumors 4uazfbG_t3y-01751-00417476-00417667 started circulating that a memo had 4uazfbG_t3y-01752-00417668-00417829 leaked from the White House stating that 4uazfbG_t3y-01753-00417830-00418018 upon the retirement of either O'Connor 4uazfbG_t3y-01754-00418018-00418222 or Chief Justice of the United States 4uazfbG_t3y-01755-00418222-00418426 William Rehnquist that Gonzales would be 4uazfbG_t3y-01756-00418427-00418612 the first nominee for a vacancy on the 4uazfbG_t3y-01757-00418613-00418906 court quickly conservative stalwarts 4uazfbG_t3y-01758-00418907-00419134 such as National Review magazine and 4uazfbG_t3y-01759-00419135-00419257 Focus on the Family 4uazfbG_t3y-01760-00419258-00419458 among other socially conservative groups 4uazfbG_t3y-01761-00419459-00419647 stated they would oppose a gonzales 4uazfbG_t3y-01762-00419647-00419845 nomination much of their opposition to 4uazfbG_t3y-01763-00419846-00420034 gonzales was based on his perceived 4uazfbG_t3y-01764-00420035-00420241 support of abortion rights as a result 4uazfbG_t3y-01765-00420242-00420457 of one vote on a single case before the 4uazfbG_t3y-01766-00420458-00420754 Texas Supreme Court in Wray Jane Doe 543 4uazfbG_t3y-01767-00420755-00421258 tax sup J point 9 1 0 in a series of 4uazfbG_t3y-01768-00421259-00421492 cases before the Texas Supreme Court in 4uazfbG_t3y-01769-00421493-00421735 2000 the court was asked to construe for 4uazfbG_t3y-01770-00421735-00422022 the first time the 1999 Texas parental 4uazfbG_t3y-01771-00422024-00422242 notification law forbidding a physician 4uazfbG_t3y-01772-00422243-00422392 from performing an abortion on a 4uazfbG_t3y-01773-00422393-00422584 pregnant unaccompanied minor without 4uazfbG_t3y-01774-00422585-00422770 giving notice to the minors parents at 4uazfbG_t3y-01775-00422771-00422976 least 48 hours before the procedure 4uazfbG_t3y-01776-00422977-00423295 however Texas legislators adopted a 4uazfbG_t3y-01777-00423296-00423484 policy to create a judicial bypass 4uazfbG_t3y-01778-00423485-00423730 exception in those cases where one the 4uazfbG_t3y-01779-00423731-00423918 minor is mature and sufficiently well 4uazfbG_t3y-01780-00423920-00424105 informed to make the decision to have an 4uazfbG_t3y-01781-00424106-00424276 abortion performed without notification 4uazfbG_t3y-01782-00424277-00424552 to either of her parents to notification 4uazfbG_t3y-01783-00424553-00424726 will not be in the best interest of the 4uazfbG_t3y-01784-00424727-00424945 minor or 3 notification may lead to 4uazfbG_t3y-01785-00424946-00425185 physical sexual or emotional abuse of 4uazfbG_t3y-01786-00425185-00425425 the minor the court was asked in these 4uazfbG_t3y-01787-00425426-00425659 cases to discern legislative intent for 4uazfbG_t3y-01788-00425660-00425779 the first time to these subjective 4uazfbG_t3y-01789-00425780-00426034 standards presumably included in the law 4uazfbG_t3y-01790-00426035-00426268 as a matter of Texas policy and to make 4uazfbG_t3y-01791-00426268-00426508 the law constitutional under US Supreme 4uazfbG_t3y-01792-00426509-00426703 Court precedents in the seven parental 4uazfbG_t3y-01793-00426704-00426895 notification decisions rendered by the 4uazfbG_t3y-01794-00426896-00426939 court 4uazfbG_t3y-01795-00426941-00427158 Gonzales voted to grant one bypass 4uazfbG_t3y-01796-00427159-00427432 foreigner a Jane Doe five his concurring 4uazfbG_t3y-01797-00427433-00427663 opinion began with the sentence I fully 4uazfbG_t3y-01798-00427664-00427893 join in the courts judgment and opinion 4uazfbG_t3y-01799-00427895-00428137 he went on though to address the three 4uazfbG_t3y-01800-00428138-00428350 dissenting opinions primarily one by 4uazfbG_t3y-01801-00428351-00428533 Nathan L Hecht alleging that the court 4uazfbG_t3y-01802-00428534-00428685 majority's members had disregarded 4uazfbG_t3y-01803-00428687-00428902 legislative intent in favor of their 4uazfbG_t3y-01804-00428903-00429222 personal ideologies Gonzalez's opinion 4uazfbG_t3y-01805-00429224-00429363 dealt mostly with how to establish 4uazfbG_t3y-01806-00429364-00429676 legislative intent he wrote we take the 4uazfbG_t3y-01807-00429677-00429897 words of the statute as the surest guide 4uazfbG_t3y-01808-00429899-00429964 to legend 4uazfbG_t3y-01809-00429964-00430234 late of intent once we discern the 4uazfbG_t3y-01810-00430235-00430480 Legislature's intent we must put it into 4uazfbG_t3y-01811-00430481-00430695 effect even if we ourselves might have 4uazfbG_t3y-01812-00430696-00431041 made different policy choices he added 4uazfbG_t3y-01813-00431042-00431287 te o construe the parental notification 4uazfbG_t3y-01814-00431288-00431616 act so narrowly as to eliminate bypasses 4uazfbG_t3y-01815-00431617-00431847 or to create hurdles that simply are not 4uazfbG_t3y-01816-00431848-00432045 to be found in the words of the statute 4uazfbG_t3y-01817-00432046-00432241 would be an unconscionable act of 4uazfbG_t3y-01818-00432242-00432558 judicial activism end while the 4uazfbG_t3y-01819-00432559-00432826 ramifications of such a line the results 4uazfbG_t3y-01820-00432827-00432993 of the court's decision here may be 4uazfbG_t3y-01821-00432994-00433243 personally troubling to me as a parent 4uazfbG_t3y-01822-00433243-00433464 it is my obligation as a judge to 4uazfbG_t3y-01823-00433465-00433666 impartially apply the laws of this state 4uazfbG_t3y-01824-00433667-00433888 without imposing my moral view on the 4uazfbG_t3y-01825-00433889-00434224 decisions of the legislature political 4uazfbG_t3y-01826-00434225-00434422 commentators had suggested that Bush 4uazfbG_t3y-01827-00434422-00434643 forecast the selection of Gonzales with 4uazfbG_t3y-01828-00434644-00434797 his comments defending the Attorney 4uazfbG_t3y-01829-00434797-00435070 General made on July 6th 2005 in 4uazfbG_t3y-01830-00435071-00435418 Copenhagen Denmark Bush stated I don't 4uazfbG_t3y-01831-00435418-00435610 like it when a friend gets criticized 4uazfbG_t3y-01832-00435610-00435964 I'm loyal to my friends all of a sudden 4uazfbG_t3y-01833-00435964-00436218 this fellow who is a good public servant 4uazfbG_t3y-01834-00436219-00436447 and a really fine person is under fire 4uazfbG_t3y-01835-00436447-00436837 and so do I like it no I don't like it 4uazfbG_t3y-01836-00436838-00436905 at all 4uazfbG_t3y-01837-00436906-00437164 however this speculation proved to be 4uazfbG_t3y-01838-00437164-00437425 incorrect as Bush nominated DC Circuit 4uazfbG_t3y-01839-00437426-00437643 Court of Appeals judge John Roberts to 4uazfbG_t3y-01840-00437644-00437910 the Supreme Court after the death of 4uazfbG_t3y-01841-00437912-00438100 Chief Justice William Rehnquist on 4uazfbG_t3y-01842-00438101-00438360 September 3rd 2005 creating another 4uazfbG_t3y-01843-00438362-00438568 vacancy speculation resumed that 4uazfbG_t3y-01844-00438568-00438850 President George W Bush might nominate 4uazfbG_t3y-01845-00438851-00439114 Gonzalez to the court this again proved 4uazfbG_t3y-01846-00439114-00439309 to be incorrect as Bush decided to 4uazfbG_t3y-01847-00439310-00439504 nominate Roberts to the Chief Justice 4uazfbG_t3y-01848-00439505-00439750 position and on October 3rd 2005 4uazfbG_t3y-01849-00439751-00439975 nominated Harriet Miers as associate 4uazfbG_t3y-01850-00439976-00440176 justice to replace Justice Sandra Day 4uazfbG_t3y-01851-00440177-00440605 O'Connor on October 27 2005 Mears 4uazfbG_t3y-01852-00440606-00440809 withdrew her nomination again renewing 4uazfbG_t3y-01853-00440810-00441025 speculation about a possible Gonzales 4uazfbG_t3y-01854-00441026-00441277 nomination this was laid to rest when 4uazfbG_t3y-01855-00441278-00441454 Judge Samuel Alito received the 4uazfbG_t3y-01856-00441455-00441660 nomination and subsequent confirmation 4uazfbG_t3y-01857-00441662-00442045 on September 11th 2005 US Senate 4uazfbG_t3y-01858-00442046-00442218 Committee on the Judiciary Chairman 4uazfbG_t3y-01859-00442219-00442414 Arlen Specter was quoted as saying that 4uazfbG_t3y-01860-00442414-00442672 it was a little too soon after 4uazfbG_t3y-01861-00442672-00442879 Gonzalez's appointment as attorney 4uazfbG_t3y-01862-00442880-00443041 general for him to be appointed to 4uazfbG_t3y-01863-00443042-00443209 another position and that such an 4uazfbG_t3y-01864-00443210-00443330 appointment would require 4uazfbG_t3y-01865-00443331-00443516 a new series of confirmation hearings 4uazfbG_t3y-01866-00443517-00443882 heat Gonzalez is attacked a lot observes 4uazfbG_t3y-01867-00443883-00444152 Larry Sabato a political analyst and the 4uazfbG_t3y-01868-00444153-00444343 director of the Center for politics at 4uazfbG_t3y-01869-00444345-00444551 the University of Virginia who adds that 4uazfbG_t3y-01870-00444552-00444758 the serious political spats virtually 4uazfbG_t3y-01871-00444759-00444932 eliminated him from the Supreme Court 4uazfbG_t3y-01872-00444933-00445475 chase 4uazfbG_t3y-01873-00445476-00445993 topic resignation 4uazfbG_t3y-01874-00445995-00446334 you 4uazfbG_t3y-01875-00446335-00446810 topic demand 4uazfbG_t3y-01876-00446812-00447035 a number of members of both houses of 4uazfbG_t3y-01877-00447037-00447270 Congress publicly said Gonzales should 4uazfbG_t3y-01878-00447271-00447597 resign or be fired by Bush calls for his 4uazfbG_t3y-01879-00447597-00447804 ousting intensified after his testimony 4uazfbG_t3y-01880-00447805-00448193 on April 19 2007 but the president gave 4uazfbG_t3y-01881-00448195-00448362 Gonzales a strong vote of confidence 4uazfbG_t3y-01882-00448363-00448641 saying this is an honest honorable man 4uazfbG_t3y-01883-00448642-00448983 in whom I have confidence the president 4uazfbG_t3y-01884-00448984-00449154 said that Gonzales is testimony 4uazfbG_t3y-01885-00449155-00449466 increased my confidence in his ability 4uazfbG_t3y-01886-00449467-00449616 to lead the Justice Department 4uazfbG_t3y-01887-00449617-00449832 separately a White House spokeswoman 4uazfbG_t3y-01888-00449833-00450228 said he's staying on May 24 2007 4uazfbG_t3y-01889-00450229-00450528 senators Charles Schumer dny Dianne 4uazfbG_t3y-01890-00450529-00450771 Feinstein dca and Sheldon Whitehouse 4uazfbG_t3y-01891-00450772-00451014 deary of the Senate Judiciary Committee 4uazfbG_t3y-01892-00451014-00451212 announced the Democrats proposed 4uazfbG_t3y-01893-00451213-00451397 no-confidence resolution to vote on 4uazfbG_t3y-01894-00451399-00451622 whether attorney general Alberto 4uazfbG_t3y-01895-00451624-00451875 Gonzales no longer holds the confidence 4uazfbG_t3y-01896-00451876-00452168 of the Senate and the American people 4uazfbG_t3y-01897-00452168-00452439 the vote would have had no legal effect 4uazfbG_t3y-01898-00452439-00452652 but was designed to persuade Gonzales to 4uazfbG_t3y-01899-00452653-00452853 depart or President Bush to seek a new 4uazfbG_t3y-01900-00452854-00453024 Attorney General a similar resolution 4uazfbG_t3y-01901-00453025-00453345 was introduced in the House by Rep Adam 4uazfbG_t3y-01902-00453346-00453714 Schiff DCA on June 11th 2007 a Senate 4uazfbG_t3y-01903-00453714-00453897 vote on cloture to end debate on the 4uazfbG_t3y-01904-00453897-00454095 resolution failed 60 votes are required 4uazfbG_t3y-01905-00454096-00454476 for cloture the vote was 53 to 38 with 4uazfbG_t3y-01906-00454477-00454734 seven not voting in one voting present 4uazfbG_t3y-01907-00454735-00455013 one Senate seat was vacant seven 4uazfbG_t3y-01908-00455014-00455280 Republicans John E Sununu Chuck Hagel 4uazfbG_t3y-01909-00455281-00455529 Susan Collins Arlen Specter Olympia 4uazfbG_t3y-01910-00455530-00455751 Snowe Gordon Smith and morm Coleman 4uazfbG_t3y-01911-00455752-00455982 voted to end debate independent Democrat 4uazfbG_t3y-01912-00455983-00456174 joseph Lieberman voted against ending 4uazfbG_t3y-01913-00456175-00456453 debate no Democrat voted against the 4uazfbG_t3y-01914-00456454-00456606 motion not voting 4uazfbG_t3y-01915-00456607-00457029 Biden Dida Brownback rks Coburn ROK Dodd 4uazfbG_t3y-01916-00457030-00457574 dct Johnson DSD McCain R as Obama D ill 4uazfbG_t3y-01917-00457575-00458033 Stephens RAK voted present on July 30th 4uazfbG_t3y-01918-00458034-00458489 2007 MSNBC reported that Rep jay Inslee 4uazfbG_t3y-01919-00458491-00458658 announced that he would introduce a bill 4uazfbG_t3y-01920-00458659-00458843 the following day that would require the 4uazfbG_t3y-01921-00458845-00459039 House Judiciary Committee to begin an 4uazfbG_t3y-01922-00459039-00459225 impeachment investigation against 4uazfbG_t3y-01923-00459226-00459410 Gonzales others wrote in support of 4uazfbG_t3y-01924-00459412-00459614 Gonzales including the Latino coalition 4uazfbG_t3y-01925-00459616-00459816 and the federal law Enforcement Officers 4uazfbG_t3y-01926-00459817-00460404 Association 4uazfbG_t3y-01927-00460405-00460891 topic announcement 4uazfbG_t3y-01928-00460892-00461295 on August 26 2007 Gonzalez submitted his 4uazfbG_t3y-01929-00461296-00461497 resignation as Attorney General with an 4uazfbG_t3y-01930-00461497-00461881 effective date of September 17 2007 in a 4uazfbG_t3y-01931-00461882-00462120 statement on August 27th gonzales 4uazfbG_t3y-01932-00462121-00462241 thanked the president for the 4uazfbG_t3y-01933-00462242-00462418 opportunity to be of service to his 4uazfbG_t3y-01934-00462418-00462616 country giving no indication of either 4uazfbG_t3y-01935-00462617-00462802 the reasons for his resignation or his 4uazfbG_t3y-01936-00462803-00463105 future plans later that day President 4uazfbG_t3y-01937-00463106-00463306 Bush praised Gonzales for his service 4uazfbG_t3y-01938-00463307-00463534 reciting the numerous positions in Texas 4uazfbG_t3y-01939-00463535-00463714 government and later the government of 4uazfbG_t3y-01940-00463714-00463893 the United States to which Bush had 4uazfbG_t3y-01941-00463894-00464179 appointed Gonzales Bush attributed the 4uazfbG_t3y-01942-00464180-00464385 resignation to Gonzales his name having 4uazfbG_t3y-01943-00464387-00464622 been dragged through the mud for 4uazfbG_t3y-01944-00464622-00465018 political reasons senators Schumer dny 4uazfbG_t3y-01945-00465019-00465393 Feinstein DCA inspector RPA replied that 4uazfbG_t3y-01946-00465394-00465535 the resignation was entirely 4uazfbG_t3y-01947-00465535-00465703 attributable to the excessive 4uazfbG_t3y-01948-00465704-00465907 politicization of the attorney general's 4uazfbG_t3y-01949-00465908-00466093 office by gonzalez whose credibility 4uazfbG_t3y-01950-00466093-00466285 with congress they asserted was 4uazfbG_t3y-01951-00466285-00466842 non-existent 4uazfbG_t3y-01952-00466843-00467337 topic successor 4uazfbG_t3y-01953-00467338-00467700 on September 17 2007 President Bush 4uazfbG_t3y-01954-00467701-00467885 announced the nomination of ex Judge 4uazfbG_t3y-01955-00467887-00468122 Michael B mucousy to serve as Gonzalez's 4uazfbG_t3y-01956-00468123-00468416 successor Bush also announced a revised 4uazfbG_t3y-01957-00468417-00468618 appointment for acting Attorney General 4uazfbG_t3y-01958-00468618-00468860 Paul Clement served for 24 hours and 4uazfbG_t3y-01959-00468862-00469050 returned to his position as Solicitor 4uazfbG_t3y-01960-00469051-00469260 General the departing assistant attorney 4uazfbG_t3y-01961-00469260-00469445 general of the Civil Division Peter 4uazfbG_t3y-01962-00469446-00469677 Keisler was persuaded to stay on and was 4uazfbG_t3y-01963-00469678-00469841 appointed acting Attorney General 4uazfbG_t3y-01964-00469842-00470586 effective September 18 2007 4uazfbG_t3y-01965-00470587-00471153 topic post resignation 4uazfbG_t3y-01966-00471154-00471409 topic investigations soon after 4uazfbG_t3y-01967-00471410-00471724 departure from the DOJ in September 2007 4uazfbG_t3y-01968-00471725-00471958 continuing inquiries by Congress and the 4uazfbG_t3y-01969-00471959-00472180 Justice Department led Gonzalez to hire 4uazfbG_t3y-01970-00472181-00472396 a criminal defense lawyer George J 4uazfbG_t3y-01971-00472397-00472612 Terwilliger three partner at white and 4uazfbG_t3y-01972-00472613-00472839 case and former Deputy Attorney General 4uazfbG_t3y-01973-00472841-00473130 under former President George HW Bush 4uazfbG_t3y-01974-00473131-00473356 Terwilliger was on the Republican lot 4uazfbG_t3y-01975-00473357-00473587 team involved in Florida presidential 4uazfbG_t3y-01976-00473588-00473809 election recount battle of 2000 on 4uazfbG_t3y-01977-00473810-00474196 October 19 2007 John McKay the former US 4uazfbG_t3y-01978-00474197-00474370 Attorney for Washington's Western 4uazfbG_t3y-01979-00474371-00474517 District told that Spokane 4uazfbG_t3y-01980-00474518-00474745 spokesman-review that inspector general 4uazfbG_t3y-01981-00474746-00474928 Glenn a fine may recommend criminal 4uazfbG_t3y-01982-00474929-00475210 charges against Gonzales the Inspector 4uazfbG_t3y-01983-00475210-00475387 General did not recommend criminal 4uazfbG_t3y-01984-00475388-00475647 charges against Gonzales to the contrary 4uazfbG_t3y-01985-00475649-00475855 the Inspector General found no criminal 4uazfbG_t3y-01986-00475856-00476134 wrongdoing and no perjury on November 15 4uazfbG_t3y-01987-00476135-00476413 2007 the Washington Post reported that 4uazfbG_t3y-01988-00476414-00476629 supporters of Gonzales had created a 4uazfbG_t3y-01989-00476630-00476776 trust fund to help pay for his legal 4uazfbG_t3y-01990-00476777-00476980 expenses which were mounting as the 4uazfbG_t3y-01991-00476981-00477181 Justice Department inspector general's 4uazfbG_t3y-01992-00477182-00477367 office continued to investigate whether 4uazfbG_t3y-01993-00477368-00477604 Gonzales committed perjury or improperly 4uazfbG_t3y-01994-00477605-00477775 tampered with a congressional witness 4uazfbG_t3y-01995-00477776-00478035 the Inspector General determined that 4uazfbG_t3y-01996-00478037-00478222 Gonzales did not commit perjury or 4uazfbG_t3y-01997-00478222-00478429 improperly tamper with a congressional 4uazfbG_t3y-01998-00478430-00478813 witness in July 2008 the DOJ OIG issued 4uazfbG_t3y-01999-00478814-00479002 a report investigating improperly 4uazfbG_t3y-02000-00479003-00479197 politicized hirings by the attorney 4uazfbG_t3y-02001-00479197-00479485 general's office on September 2nd 2008 4uazfbG_t3y-02002-00479485-00479662 the Inspector General found that 4uazfbG_t3y-02003-00479663-00479902 Gonzales had stored classified documents 4uazfbG_t3y-02004-00479903-00480100 in an insecure fashion at his home and 4uazfbG_t3y-02005-00480101-00480385 insufficiently secured safes at work the 4uazfbG_t3y-02006-00480385-00480613 inspector general investigation found no 4uazfbG_t3y-02007-00480614-00480768 evidence showing that there was any 4uazfbG_t3y-02008-00480770-00480952 unauthorized disclosure of classified 4uazfbG_t3y-02009-00480953-00481174 information resulting from his Mis 4uazfbG_t3y-02010-00481175-00481387 handling and storage of the materials in 4uazfbG_t3y-02011-00481388-00481572 question and the IG did not make a 4uazfbG_t3y-02012-00481574-00481759 referral to the National Security 4uazfbG_t3y-02013-00481760-00481947 Division for violation of a criminal 4uazfbG_t3y-02014-00481949-00482089 statute some members of Congress 4uazfbG_t3y-02015-00482089-00482332 criticized Gonzales for selectively 4uazfbG_t3y-02016-00482333-00482539 declassifying some of this information 4uazfbG_t3y-02017-00482539-00482800 for political purposes the Justice 4uazfbG_t3y-02018-00482801-00482962 Department declined to press criminal 4uazfbG_t3y-02019-00482963-00483168 charges 4uazfbG_t3y-02020-00483169-00483489 topic later career in April 2008 the New 4uazfbG_t3y-02021-00483491-00483700 York Times reported that Gonzales was 4uazfbG_t3y-02022-00483701-00483895 having difficulty securing a new job 4uazfbG_t3y-02023-00483896-00484158 unusual for a former attorney general 4uazfbG_t3y-02024-00484159-00484422 Gonzales had a mediation and consulting 4uazfbG_t3y-02025-00484423-00484620 practice in Austin Texas and taught at 4uazfbG_t3y-02026-00484621-00484978 Texas Tech beginning in 2009 in October 4uazfbG_t3y-02027-00484979-00485257 2011 Belmont University College of Law 4uazfbG_t3y-02028-00485258-00485439 announced that Gonzales would fill the 4uazfbG_t3y-02029-00485441-00485682 Doyle Rogers distinguished chair of law 4uazfbG_t3y-02030-00485683-00485941 Gonzales also joined the nashville law 4uazfbG_t3y-02031-00485942-00486166 firm of Waller lanceton Dortch and Davis 4uazfbG_t3y-02032-00486167-00486435 LLP as of counsel gonzales gave an 4uazfbG_t3y-02033-00486437-00486613 interview to the Wall Street Journal on 4uazfbG_t3y-02034-00486614-00486916 December 31st 2008 in which he discussed 4uazfbG_t3y-02035-00486917-00487089 the effect that controversies in his 4uazfbG_t3y-02036-00487091-00487293 Bush administration roles had had on his 4uazfbG_t3y-02037-00487294-00487576 career and public perception he stated 4uazfbG_t3y-02038-00487577-00487756 for some reason I am portrayed as the 4uazfbG_t3y-02039-00487757-00487968 one who is evil in formulating policies 4uazfbG_t3y-02040-00487969-00488220 that people disagree with I consider 4uazfbG_t3y-02041-00488221-00488416 myself a casualty one of the many 4uazfbG_t3y-02042-00488417-00488691 casualties of the war on terror since 4uazfbG_t3y-02043-00488692-00488908 leaving public office he has appeared on 4uazfbG_t3y-02044-00488909-00489103 a number of television and radio news 4uazfbG_t3y-02045-00489104-00489334 shows including The Situation Room with 4uazfbG_t3y-02046-00489335-00489550 Wolf Blitzer to discuss the nomination 4uazfbG_t3y-02047-00489551-00489745 of Sonia Sotomayor to the US Supreme 4uazfbG_t3y-02048-00489746-00489972 Court Larry King lived to discuss the 4uazfbG_t3y-02049-00489973-00490185 challenges of immigration in Geraldo at 4uazfbG_t3y-02050-00490187-00490372 large to discuss terrorism related 4uazfbG_t3y-02051-00490372-00490618 issues he has given numerous radio 4uazfbG_t3y-02052-00490618-00490872 interviews on shows such as NPR's tell 4uazfbG_t3y-02053-00490873-00491056 me more covering such topics as 4uazfbG_t3y-02054-00491057-00491247 Guantanamo Bay and Supreme Court 4uazfbG_t3y-02055-00491248-00491533 nominations additionally he has written 4uazfbG_t3y-02056-00491534-00491710 opinion pieces for the Washington Post 4uazfbG_t3y-02057-00491710-00492031 Los Angeles Times in USA Today covering 4uazfbG_t3y-02058-00492032-00492199 issues ranging from immigration to 4uazfbG_t3y-02059-00492200-00492454 sexual predators he stated an intention 4uazfbG_t3y-02060-00492455-00492670 to write a book about his roles with the 4uazfbG_t3y-02061-00492671-00492859 intention of publishing the book for my 4uazfbG_t3y-02062-00492860-00493084 sons so at least they know the story no 4uazfbG_t3y-02063-00493085-00493279 publishing company had agreed to promote 4uazfbG_t3y-02064-00493280-00493414 the book at the time of the interview 4uazfbG_t3y-02065-00493414-00493654 Gonzales was featured in the 2008 4uazfbG_t3y-02066-00493655-00493900 Academy Award winning documentary taxi 4uazfbG_t3y-02067-00493901-00494209 to the dark side a biography of Gonzalez 4uazfbG_t3y-02068-00494210-00494401 and his controversial public life 4uazfbG_t3y-02069-00494402-00494595 the president's counselor the rise to 4uazfbG_t3y-02070-00494596-00494818 power of Alberto Gonzalez was written in 4uazfbG_t3y-02071-00494818-00495079 2006 by presidential biographer and 4uazfbG_t3y-02072-00495080-00495735 historian Billman Italia 4uazfbG_t3y-02073-00495735-00496316 topic Texas Tech University 4uazfbG_t3y-02074-00496317-00496664 in 2009 Texas Tech University system 4uazfbG_t3y-02075-00496664-00496904 hired Gonzalez he acted as the diversity 4uazfbG_t3y-02076-00496905-00497110 recruiter for both Texas Tech University 4uazfbG_t3y-02077-00497112-00497464 and Angelo State University additionally 4uazfbG_t3y-02078-00497466-00497666 at Texas Tech he taught a political 4uazfbG_t3y-02079-00497667-00497975 science special topics course dealing 4uazfbG_t3y-02080-00497976-00498139 with contemporary issues in the 4uazfbG_t3y-02081-00498141-00498326 executive branch and a graduate level 4uazfbG_t3y-02082-00498327-00498547 course to students pursuing a master's 4uazfbG_t3y-02083-00498549-00498835 degree in public administration he began 4uazfbG_t3y-02084-00498837-00499163 the new job on August 1st 2009 after the 4uazfbG_t3y-02085-00499164-00499370 announcement more than 40 professors at 4uazfbG_t3y-02086-00499371-00499556 Texas Tech signed a petition opposing 4uazfbG_t3y-02087-00499557-00499847 the hiring Texas Tech Chancellor Kent 4uazfbG_t3y-02088-00499847-00500075 had said Gonzales has generated interest 4uazfbG_t3y-02089-00500076-00500258 in the university by recruiting outside 4uazfbG_t3y-02090-00500259-00500480 of Lubbock and through his reputation in 4uazfbG_t3y-02091-00500481-00500726 the news I had a young man come up to me 4uazfbG_t3y-02092-00500727-00501047 Monday in a restaurant and he said I'm 4uazfbG_t3y-02093-00501047-00501275 in judge Gonzalez's class and it's the 4uazfbG_t3y-02094-00501276-00501554 best class I've ever taken thank you for 4uazfbG_t3y-02095-00501555-00502206 providing him to the community and said 4uazfbG_t3y-02096-00502207-00502775 topic grand jury indictment 4uazfbG_t3y-02097-00502776-00503081 in November 2008 gonzales was indicted 4uazfbG_t3y-02098-00503082-00503312 by a grand jury in Willacy County in 4uazfbG_t3y-02099-00503313-00503582 Texas he was accused of stopping an 4uazfbG_t3y-02100-00503583-00503818 investigation into abuses at the Willacy 4uazfbG_t3y-02101-00503820-00504020 detention center a Federal Detention 4uazfbG_t3y-02102-00504021-00504308 Center Vice President Dick Cheney and 4uazfbG_t3y-02103-00504309-00504449 other elected officials were also 4uazfbG_t3y-02104-00504450-00504674 indicted a judge dismissed the 4uazfbG_t3y-02105-00504675-00504887 indictments and chastised the Willacy 4uazfbG_t3y-02106-00504888-00505072 County District Attorney one angel 4uazfbG_t3y-02107-00505073-00505334 Gonzalez who brought the case the 4uazfbG_t3y-02108-00505335-00505529 district attorney himself had been under 4uazfbG_t3y-02109-00505530-00505693 indictment for more than a year and a 4uazfbG_t3y-02110-00505695-00505862 half before the judge dismissed the 4uazfbG_t3y-02111-00505863-00506117 indictment the district attorney left 4uazfbG_t3y-02112-00506118-00506318 office after losing in a Democratic 4uazfbG_t3y-02113-00506318-00506660 primary in March 2008 all charges were 4uazfbG_t3y-02114-00506660-00507287 dropped after further investigation 4uazfbG_t3y-02115-00507288-00507885 topic international investigation 4uazfbG_t3y-02116-00507886-00508272 on November 14 2006 invoking universal 4uazfbG_t3y-02117-00508273-00508464 jurisdiction legal proceedings were 4uazfbG_t3y-02118-00508465-00508678 started in Germany against Gonzales for 4uazfbG_t3y-02119-00508679-00508828 his alleged involvement under the 4uazfbG_t3y-02120-00508829-00509056 command responsibility of prisoner abuse 4uazfbG_t3y-02121-00509057-00509230 by writing the controversial legal 4uazfbG_t3y-02122-00509231-00509683 opinions on April 27th 2007 Germany's 4uazfbG_t3y-02123-00509684-00509868 federal prosecutor announced she would 4uazfbG_t3y-02124-00509869-00510072 not proceed with an investigation in 4uazfbG_t3y-02125-00510072-00510355 November 2007 the plaintiffs appealed 4uazfbG_t3y-02126-00510356-00510720 the decision on April 21st 2009 the 4uazfbG_t3y-02127-00510721-00510901 Stuttgart regional appeals court 4uazfbG_t3y-02128-00510902-00511335 dismissed the appeal on March 28 2009 a 4uazfbG_t3y-02129-00511336-00511593 Spanish Court headed by Baltasar garzón 4uazfbG_t3y-02130-00511594-00511764 the judge who ordered the arrest of 4uazfbG_t3y-02131-00511765-00511951 former Chilean President Augusto 4uazfbG_t3y-02132-00511952-00512125 Pinochet announced it would begin an 4uazfbG_t3y-02133-00512126-00512287 investigation into whether or not 4uazfbG_t3y-02134-00512288-00512503 Gonzalez and five other former Bush 4uazfbG_t3y-02135-00512504-00512695 Justice and Defense officials violated 4uazfbG_t3y-02136-00512696-00512920 international law by providing the Bush 4uazfbG_t3y-02137-00512921-00513112 administration a legal framework and 4uazfbG_t3y-02138-00513113-00513312 basis for the torture of detainees at 4uazfbG_t3y-02139-00513313-00513616 Guantanamo Bay Garzon said that it was 4uazfbG_t3y-02140-00513617-00513897 highly probable the matter would go to 4uazfbG_t3y-02141-00513898-00514075 court and that arrest warrants would be 4uazfbG_t3y-02142-00514076-00514354 issued also named in the Spanish courts 4uazfbG_t3y-02143-00514355-00514593 investigation or John u Douglas Feith 4uazfbG_t3y-02144-00514594-00514864 William Haynes - Jay Bybee and David 4uazfbG_t3y-02145-00514864-00515176 Addington in April 2010 on the advice of 4uazfbG_t3y-02146-00515177-00515389 the Spanish attorney general Candido 4uazfbG_t3y-02147-00515389-00515593 Conde pompano who believes that an 4uazfbG_t3y-02148-00515593-00515782 American tribunal should judge the case 4uazfbG_t3y-02149-00515783-00515991 or dismiss it before a Spanish court 4uazfbG_t3y-02150-00515992-00516141 ever thinks about becoming involved 4uazfbG_t3y-02151-00516142-00516345 prosecutors recommended that judge 4uazfbG_t3y-02152-00516346-00516618 Garzon should drop his investigation as 4uazfbG_t3y-02153-00516619-00516916 CNN reported mr. Conde Pompeo told 4uazfbG_t3y-02154-00516917-00517105 reporters that judge Garzon s plan 4uazfbG_t3y-02155-00517106-00517324 threatened to turn the court into a toy 4uazfbG_t3y-02156-00517325-00517522 in the hands of people who are trying to 4uazfbG_t3y-02157-00517522-00518222 do a political action 4uazfbG_t3y-02158-00518223-00518867 topic Texas Supreme Court opinions 4uazfbG_t3y-02159-00518868-00519085 this is a list of opinions in which 4uazfbG_t3y-02160-00519087-00519254 Alberto Gonzales wrote the majority 4uazfbG_t3y-02161-00519255-00519493 Court opinion wrote a concurring opinion 4uazfbG_t3y-02162-00519495-00519755 or wrote a dissent cases in which he 4uazfbG_t3y-02163-00519756-00519922 joined in an opinion written by another 4uazfbG_t3y-02164-00519924-00520205 justice are not included a justice 4uazfbG_t3y-02165-00520206-00520502 writes an opinion if the Justice has 4uazfbG_t3y-02166-00520503-00520729 primary responsibility for the opinion 4uazfbG_t3y-02167-00520730-00520993 justices are assisted by a law clerk who 4uazfbG_t3y-02168-00520995-00521185 may play an important role in the actual 4uazfbG_t3y-02169-00521187-00521417 analysis of legal issues and drafting of 4uazfbG_t3y-02170-00521418-00521675 the opinion the Texas Supreme Court 4uazfbG_t3y-02171-00521676-00521921 issued 84 opinions during Gonzalez's 4uazfbG_t3y-02172-00521922-00522074 tenure on the court according to 4uazfbG_t3y-02173-00522075-00522319 LexisNexis 4uazfbG_t3y-02174-00522320-00522612 topic majority opinions fitzgerald v 4uazfbG_t3y-02175-00522613-00523064 advanced spine fixation systems 996 SW 4uazfbG_t3y-02176-00523064-00523570 2d 864 text 1999 Texas Farmers Insurance 4uazfbG_t3y-02177-00523571-00524350 Company v Murphy 996 SW 2d 873 text 1999 4uazfbG_t3y-02178-00524351-00524810 mid-century Insurance Company v kid 997 4uazfbG_t3y-02179-00524811-00525346 SW 2d 265 text 1999 General Motors 4uazfbG_t3y-02180-00525347-00525985 Corporation V Sanchez 997 SW 2d 584 text 4uazfbG_t3y-02181-00525986-00526508 1999 in Ray Missouri pack are are Co 998 4uazfbG_t3y-02182-00526509-00527167 SW 2d 212 text 1999 Malia's v baker 11 4uazfbG_t3y-02183-00527168-00527704 SW 3 D 157 text 2000 Gulf Insurance 4uazfbG_t3y-02184-00527705-00528256 Company v burns motors 22 SW 3d 417 text 4uazfbG_t3y-02185-00528257-00528683 2000 southwestern refining Co V Bernal 4uazfbG_t3y-02186-00528684-00529273 22 SW 3d 425 text 2000 Golden Eagle 4uazfbG_t3y-02187-00529274-00529810 archery Inc V Jackson 24 SW 3d 360 to 4uazfbG_t3y-02188-00529811-00530225 text 2000 city of Fort Worth V zimmel ik 4uazfbG_t3y-02189-00530226-00530741 29 SW 3 D 62 text 2000 Prudential 4uazfbG_t3y-02190-00530742-00531029 Insurance Company of America v Financial 4uazfbG_t3y-02191-00531030-00531475 Review Services Inc 29 SW 3 D 74 Tex 4uazfbG_t3y-02192-00531476-00531754 2000 Texas Department of Transportation 4uazfbG_t3y-02193-00531755-00532462 V Abel 35 s w 3d 608 text 2000 post a of 4uazfbG_t3y-02194-00532463-00532996 skeevy rapid American Corp 35s w 3d 643 4uazfbG_t3y-02195-00532997-00533389 Tex mm John G & Marie Stella Kennedy 4uazfbG_t3y-02196-00533390-00533716 Memorial Foundation V Dewhurst 44 tax 4uazfbG_t3y-02197-00533717-00534561 sup J 268 mm withdrawn 4uazfbG_t3y-02198-00534562-00535114 Topic concurring opinions 4uazfbG_t3y-02199-00535115-00535580 in raid Dallas Morning News 10s w3d 298 4uazfbG_t3y-02200-00535581-00536222 text 1999 Osterberg V Pekka 12 SW 3 D 31 4uazfbG_t3y-02201-00536223-00536831 Tex 2000 in Ray Jane Doe 319 SW 3 D 300 4uazfbG_t3y-02202-00536832-00537479 text 2000 in Rado 19 s w 3d 346 text 4uazfbG_t3y-02203-00537480-00537743 2000 this case is popularly referred to 4uazfbG_t3y-02204-00537744-00538133 as in Ray Jane Doe v grapevine 4uazfbG_t3y-02205-00538134-00538535 excavation Inc V Maryland Lloyd's 35 SW 4uazfbG_t3y-02206-00538536-00538693 3 D 1 Tex 4uazfbG_t3y-02207-00538694-00538910 mm 4uazfbG_t3y-02208-00538911-00539135 topic partial descent partial 4uazfbG_t3y-02209-00539136-00539456 concurrence Lopez V muñoz hakima and 4uazfbG_t3y-02210-00539457-00539926 read 22 SW 3 D 857 Tex 4uazfbG_t3y-02211-00539927-00540436 mm 4uazfbG_t3y-02212-00540437-00540967 topic see also 4uazfbG_t3y-02213-00540968-00541489 George W Bush Supreme Court candidates