wazY5D4sxIc-00000-00000057-00000306 bird flight as the primary mode of wazY5D4sxIc-00001-00000307-00000588 locomotion used by most bird species in wazY5D4sxIc-00002-00000589-00000891 which birds take off and fly flight wazY5D4sxIc-00003-00000892-00001116 assists birds with feeding breeding wazY5D4sxIc-00004-00001117-00001482 avoiding predators and migrating bird wazY5D4sxIc-00005-00001483-00001718 flight as one of the most complex forms wazY5D4sxIc-00006-00001719-00002024 of locomotion in the animal kingdom each wazY5D4sxIc-00007-00002025-00002234 facet of this type of motion including wazY5D4sxIc-00008-00002235-00002564 hovering taking off and landing involves wazY5D4sxIc-00009-00002565-00002891 many complex movements as different bird wazY5D4sxIc-00010-00002892-00003113 species adapted over millions of years wazY5D4sxIc-00011-00003114-00003336 through evolution for specific wazY5D4sxIc-00012-00003336-00003584 environments prey predators and other wazY5D4sxIc-00013-00003585-00003638 needs wazY5D4sxIc-00014-00003639-00003854 they developed specializations in their wazY5D4sxIc-00015-00003855-00004065 wings and acquired different forms of wazY5D4sxIc-00016-00004065-00004431 flight various theories exist about how wazY5D4sxIc-00017-00004432-00004652 bird flight evolved including flight wazY5D4sxIc-00018-00004653-00004890 from falling or gliding the trees down wazY5D4sxIc-00019-00004891-00005147 hypothesis from running or leaping the wazY5D4sxIc-00020-00005148-00005400 ground up hypothesis from wing assisted wazY5D4sxIc-00021-00005401-00005600 inclined running or from pro avis wazY5D4sxIc-00022-00005601-00006254 pouncing behavior wazY5D4sxIc-00023-00006255-00006962 topic basic mechanics of bird flight wazY5D4sxIc-00024-00006963-00007292 you wazY5D4sxIc-00025-00007293-00007845 topic lift and drag wazY5D4sxIc-00026-00007847-00008089 the fundamentals of bird flight are wazY5D4sxIc-00027-00008090-00008308 similar to those of aircraft in which wazY5D4sxIc-00028-00008309-00008557 the aerodynamic forces sustaining flight wazY5D4sxIc-00029-00008558-00008902 are lift and drag lift force is produced wazY5D4sxIc-00030-00008903-00009118 by the action of airflow on the wing wazY5D4sxIc-00031-00009119-00009427 which is an airfoil the airfoil is wazY5D4sxIc-00032-00009428-00009643 shaped such that the air provides a net wazY5D4sxIc-00033-00009644-00009844 upward force on the wing while the wazY5D4sxIc-00034-00009845-00010089 movement of air is directed downward wazY5D4sxIc-00035-00010090-00010342 additional net lift may come from air wazY5D4sxIc-00036-00010343-00010555 flow around the bird's body in some wazY5D4sxIc-00037-00010556-00010789 species especially during intermittent wazY5D4sxIc-00038-00010790-00010993 flight while the wings are folded or wazY5D4sxIc-00039-00010994-00011455 semi folded CF lifting body aerodynamic wazY5D4sxIc-00040-00011456-00011650 drag as the force opposite to the wazY5D4sxIc-00041-00011651-00011869 direction of motion and hence the source wazY5D4sxIc-00042-00011870-00012199 of energy loss in flight the drag force wazY5D4sxIc-00043-00012200-00012409 can be separated into two portions wazY5D4sxIc-00044-00012410-00012664 lift-induced drag which is the inherent wazY5D4sxIc-00045-00012665-00012877 cost of the wing producing lift this wazY5D4sxIc-00046-00012878-00013113 energy ends up primarily in the wingtip wazY5D4sxIc-00047-00013115-00013393 vortices and parasitic drag including wazY5D4sxIc-00048-00013394-00013609 skin friction drag from the friction of wazY5D4sxIc-00049-00013610-00013885 air and body surfaces and form drag from wazY5D4sxIc-00050-00013886-00014176 the bird's frontal area the streamlining wazY5D4sxIc-00051-00014177-00014434 of bird's body and wings reduces these wazY5D4sxIc-00052-00014435-00014980 forces wazY5D4sxIc-00053-00014981-00015146 topic wings wazY5D4sxIc-00054-00015147-00015507 [Music] wazY5D4sxIc-00055-00015508-00015771 the birds forelimbs the wings are the wazY5D4sxIc-00056-00015772-00016080 key to flight each wing has a central wazY5D4sxIc-00057-00016081-00016313 vein to hit the wind composed of three wazY5D4sxIc-00058-00016315-00016613 limb bones the humerus ulna and radius wazY5D4sxIc-00059-00016614-00016974 the hand or manu's which ancestrally was wazY5D4sxIc-00060-00016975-00017223 composed of five digits is reduced to wazY5D4sxIc-00061-00017224-00017493 three digits digit two three and IV are wazY5D4sxIc-00062-00017494-00017739 I to three depending on the scheme wazY5D4sxIc-00063-00017740-00017973 followed which serves as an anchor for wazY5D4sxIc-00064-00017974-00018171 the primaries one of two groups of wazY5D4sxIc-00065-00018172-00018363 flight feathers responsible for the wazY5D4sxIc-00066-00018364-00018636 wings airfoil shape the other set of wazY5D4sxIc-00067-00018637-00018843 flight feathers behind the carpal joint wazY5D4sxIc-00068-00018844-00019085 on the ulna are called the secondaries wazY5D4sxIc-00069-00019086-00019362 the remaining feathers on the wing are wazY5D4sxIc-00070-00019363-00019548 known as covers of which there are three wazY5D4sxIc-00071-00019549-00019887 sets the wing sometimes has vestigial wazY5D4sxIc-00072-00019888-00020214 claws in most species these are lost by wazY5D4sxIc-00073-00020215-00020388 the time the bird as a dolt wazY5D4sxIc-00074-00020389-00020616 such as the highly visible ones used for wazY5D4sxIc-00075-00020617-00020859 active climbing by Hotz and chicks but wazY5D4sxIc-00076-00020860-00021075 claws are retained into adulthood by the wazY5D4sxIc-00077-00021076-00021330 secretary bird screamers fin foots wazY5D4sxIc-00078-00021331-00021591 ostriches several Swift's and numerous wazY5D4sxIc-00079-00021592-00021816 others as a local trait in a few wazY5D4sxIc-00080-00021817-00022152 specimens albatrosses have locking wazY5D4sxIc-00081-00022153-00022341 mechanisms in the wing joints that wazY5D4sxIc-00082-00022342-00022551 reduce the strain on the muscles during wazY5D4sxIc-00083-00022552-00022755 soaring flight even within a species wazY5D4sxIc-00084-00022756-00023118 wing morphology may differ for example wazY5D4sxIc-00085-00023119-00023358 adult European turtle doves have been wazY5D4sxIc-00086-00023359-00023571 found to have longer but more rounded wazY5D4sxIc-00087-00023572-00023805 wings than juveniles suggesting that wazY5D4sxIc-00088-00023806-00024047 juvenile wing morphology facilitates wazY5D4sxIc-00089-00024048-00024279 their first migrations with selection wazY5D4sxIc-00090-00024280-00024480 for flight manoeuvrability is more wazY5D4sxIc-00091-00024481-00024749 important after the juveniles first molt wazY5D4sxIc-00092-00024750-00025068 female birds exposed to predators during wazY5D4sxIc-00093-00025069-00025281 ovulation produced chicks that grow wazY5D4sxIc-00094-00025282-00025494 their wings faster than chicks produced wazY5D4sxIc-00095-00025495-00025818 by predator free females their wings are wazY5D4sxIc-00096-00025819-00026120 also longer both adaptations may make wazY5D4sxIc-00097-00026122-00026462 them better at avoiding avian predators wazY5D4sxIc-00098-00026463-00026824 you wazY5D4sxIc-00099-00026825-00027198 topic wing shape wazY5D4sxIc-00100-00027199-00027372 you wazY5D4sxIc-00101-00027373-00027620 the shape of the wing is important in wazY5D4sxIc-00102-00027622-00027839 determining the flight capabilities of a wazY5D4sxIc-00103-00027841-00028131 bird different shapes correspond to wazY5D4sxIc-00104-00028132-00028364 different trade-offs between advantages wazY5D4sxIc-00105-00028366-00028598 such as speed low energy use and wazY5D4sxIc-00106-00028599-00028932 maneuverability two important parameters wazY5D4sxIc-00107-00028933-00029170 are the aspect ratio and wing loading wazY5D4sxIc-00108-00029172-00029520 aspect ratio as the ratio of wingspan to wazY5D4sxIc-00109-00029520-00029714 the mean of its cord or the square of wazY5D4sxIc-00110-00029716-00030051 the wingspan divided by wing area wing wazY5D4sxIc-00111-00030052-00030288 loading is the ratio of weight to wing wazY5D4sxIc-00112-00030289-00030636 area most kinds of bird wing can be wazY5D4sxIc-00113-00030637-00030819 grouped into four types with some wazY5D4sxIc-00114-00030820-00031122 falling between two of these types these wazY5D4sxIc-00115-00031123-00031386 types of wings are elliptical wings high wazY5D4sxIc-00116-00031387-00031695 speed wings high aspect ratio wings and wazY5D4sxIc-00117-00031695-00032342 soaring wings with slots wazY5D4sxIc-00118-00032343-00032577 topic elliptical wings wazY5D4sxIc-00119-00032579-00032926 [Music] wazY5D4sxIc-00120-00032927-00033185 technically elliptical wings are those wazY5D4sxIc-00121-00033186-00033389 having elliptical that is quarter wazY5D4sxIc-00122-00033390-00033643 ellipses meeting conformally at the tips wazY5D4sxIc-00123-00033644-00033986 the early model supermarine spitfire as wazY5D4sxIc-00124-00033987-00034229 an example some birds have vaguely wazY5D4sxIc-00125-00034230-00034490 elliptical wings including the albatross wazY5D4sxIc-00126-00034491-00034808 wing of high aspect ratio although the wazY5D4sxIc-00127-00034809-00035018 term is convenient it might be more wazY5D4sxIc-00128-00035019-00035255 precise to refer to curving taper with wazY5D4sxIc-00129-00035256-00035473 fairly small radius at the tips wazY5D4sxIc-00130-00035474-00035756 many small birds have having a low wazY5D4sxIc-00131-00035757-00036011 aspect ratio with elliptical character wazY5D4sxIc-00132-00036012-00036194 when spread allowing for tight wazY5D4sxIc-00133-00036195-00036440 manoeuvring in confined spaces such as wazY5D4sxIc-00134-00036441-00036673 might be found in dense vegetation as wazY5D4sxIc-00135-00036674-00036971 such they are common in forest Raptors wazY5D4sxIc-00136-00036972-00037270 such as Xzibit or ox and many passerines wazY5D4sxIc-00137-00037271-00037502 particularly non-migratory ones wazY5D4sxIc-00138-00037503-00037865 migratory species have longer wings they wazY5D4sxIc-00139-00037866-00038096 are also common in species that use a wazY5D4sxIc-00140-00038097-00038360 rapid takeoff to evade predators such as wazY5D4sxIc-00141-00038361-00039007 pheasants and partridges wazY5D4sxIc-00142-00039008-00039241 topic high-speed wings wazY5D4sxIc-00143-00039242-00039577 [Music] wazY5D4sxIc-00144-00039578-00039858 high-speed wings are short pointed wings wazY5D4sxIc-00145-00039859-00040055 that when combined with a heavy wing wazY5D4sxIc-00146-00040056-00040287 loading and rapid wing beats provide an wazY5D4sxIc-00147-00040288-00040526 energetically expensive but high speed wazY5D4sxIc-00148-00040527-00040827 this type of flight is used by the bird wazY5D4sxIc-00149-00040828-00041027 with the fastest wing speed the wazY5D4sxIc-00150-00041028-00041274 peregrine falcon as well as by most of wazY5D4sxIc-00151-00041275-00041598 the ducks the same wing shape is used by wazY5D4sxIc-00152-00041599-00041837 the ox for a different purpose ox use wazY5D4sxIc-00153-00041838-00042179 their wings to fly underwater wazY5D4sxIc-00154-00042180-00042474 the peregrine falcon has the highest wazY5D4sxIc-00155-00042475-00042798 recorded dive speed of 242 miles per wazY5D4sxIc-00156-00042799-00043248 hour 389 kilometers per hour the fastest wazY5D4sxIc-00157-00043249-00043449 Strait powered flight as the spine wazY5D4sxIc-00158-00043450-00043857 tailed Swift at 105 miles per hour 170 wazY5D4sxIc-00159-00043858-00044478 kilometers per hour wazY5D4sxIc-00160-00044479-00045132 topic high aspect ratio wings wazY5D4sxIc-00161-00045133-00045420 high aspect ratio wings which usually wazY5D4sxIc-00162-00045421-00045674 have low wing loading and are far longer wazY5D4sxIc-00163-00045675-00045896 than they are wide are used for slower wazY5D4sxIc-00164-00045897-00046211 flight this may take the form of almost wazY5D4sxIc-00165-00046212-00046485 hovering as used by kestrels turns and wazY5D4sxIc-00166-00046486-00046715 nightjars or in soaring and gliding wazY5D4sxIc-00167-00046716-00046968 flight particularly the dynamic soaring wazY5D4sxIc-00168-00046969-00047211 used by seabirds which takes advantage wazY5D4sxIc-00169-00047212-00047436 of wind speed variation at different wazY5D4sxIc-00170-00047437-00047690 altitudes wind shear above ocean waves wazY5D4sxIc-00171-00047691-00048045 to provide lift low-speed flight is also wazY5D4sxIc-00172-00048046-00048302 important for birds that plunge dive for wazY5D4sxIc-00173-00048303-00048830 fish wazY5D4sxIc-00174-00048831-00049090 topic soaring wings with wazY5D4sxIc-00175-00049091-00049502 deep slots wazY5D4sxIc-00176-00049503-00049745 these wings are favored by larger wazY5D4sxIc-00177-00049746-00050001 species of inland birds such as eagles wazY5D4sxIc-00178-00050002-00050382 vultures pelicans and storks the slots wazY5D4sxIc-00179-00050383-00050570 at the end of the wings between the wazY5D4sxIc-00180-00050571-00050820 primaries reduce the induced drag and wazY5D4sxIc-00181-00050821-00051146 wingtip vortices by capturing the energy wazY5D4sxIc-00182-00051147-00051375 in air flowing from the lower to upper wazY5D4sxIc-00183-00051376-00051608 wing surface at the tips whilst the wazY5D4sxIc-00184-00051609-00051794 shorter size of the wings aids in wazY5D4sxIc-00185-00051795-00052098 takeoff high aspect ratio wings require wazY5D4sxIc-00186-00052099-00052811 a long taxi to get airborne wazY5D4sxIc-00187-00052812-00053332 topic flight wazY5D4sxIc-00188-00053333-00053653 birds use three types of flight they are wazY5D4sxIc-00189-00053654-00054275 distinguished by wing motion wazY5D4sxIc-00190-00054276-00054646 topic gliding flight wazY5D4sxIc-00191-00054647-00054820 you wazY5D4sxIc-00192-00054821-00055060 when in gliding flight the upward wazY5D4sxIc-00193-00055061-00055299 aerodynamic force is equal to the weight wazY5D4sxIc-00194-00055300-00055651 in gliding flight no propulsion is used wazY5D4sxIc-00195-00055652-00055888 the energy to counteract the energy loss wazY5D4sxIc-00196-00055889-00056170 due to aerodynamic drag as either taken wazY5D4sxIc-00197-00056171-00056355 from the potential energy of the bird wazY5D4sxIc-00198-00056357-00056601 resulting in a descending flight or is wazY5D4sxIc-00199-00056602-00056904 replaced by rising air currents thermals wazY5D4sxIc-00200-00056904-00057207 referred to as soaring flight for wazY5D4sxIc-00201-00057208-00057484 specialist soaring birds obligate sorors wazY5D4sxIc-00202-00057485-00057717 the decision to engage in flight are wazY5D4sxIc-00203-00057719-00057910 strongly related to atmospheric wazY5D4sxIc-00204-00057911-00058116 conditions that allow individuals to wazY5D4sxIc-00205-00058117-00058338 maximize flight efficiency and minimize wazY5D4sxIc-00206-00058339-00058994 energetic costs wazY5D4sxIc-00207-00058995-00059358 topic flapping flight wazY5D4sxIc-00208-00059359-00059539 you wazY5D4sxIc-00209-00059540-00059845 when a bird flaps as opposed to gliding wazY5D4sxIc-00210-00059846-00060079 its wings continue to develop lift as wazY5D4sxIc-00211-00060079-00060334 before but the lift is rotated forward wazY5D4sxIc-00212-00060335-00060595 to provide thrust which counteracts drag wazY5D4sxIc-00213-00060596-00060832 and increases its speed which has the wazY5D4sxIc-00214-00060833-00061036 effect of also increasing lift to wazY5D4sxIc-00215-00061037-00061225 counteract its weight allowing it to wazY5D4sxIc-00216-00061226-00061540 maintain height or to climb flapping wazY5D4sxIc-00217-00061541-00061782 involves two stages the down stroke wazY5D4sxIc-00218-00061783-00061980 which provides the majority of the wazY5D4sxIc-00219-00061982-00062200 thrust and the up stroke which can also wazY5D4sxIc-00220-00062201-00062440 depending on the bird's wings provide wazY5D4sxIc-00221-00062441-00062754 some thrust at each upstroke the wing is wazY5D4sxIc-00222-00062755-00062979 slightly folded inwards to reduce the wazY5D4sxIc-00223-00062980-00063219 energetic cost of flapping wing flight wazY5D4sxIc-00224-00063220-00063471 birds change the angle of attack wazY5D4sxIc-00225-00063472-00063739 continuously within a flap as well as wazY5D4sxIc-00226-00063740-00063892 with speed wazY5D4sxIc-00227-00063894-00064298 you wazY5D4sxIc-00228-00064299-00064857 topic bounding flight wazY5D4sxIc-00229-00064858-00065107 small birds often fly long distances wazY5D4sxIc-00230-00065108-00065400 using a technique in which short bursts wazY5D4sxIc-00231-00065401-00065562 of flapping are alternated with wazY5D4sxIc-00232-00065563-00065748 intervals in which the wings are folded wazY5D4sxIc-00233-00065749-00066021 against the body this is a flight wazY5D4sxIc-00234-00066022-00066381 pattern known as bounding or flap wazY5D4sxIc-00235-00066382-00066696 bounding flight when the bird's wings wazY5D4sxIc-00236-00066697-00066944 are folded its trajectory is primarily wazY5D4sxIc-00237-00066945-00067173 ballistic with a small amount of body wazY5D4sxIc-00238-00067174-00067481 lift the flight pattern is believed to wazY5D4sxIc-00239-00067482-00067734 decrease the energy required by reducing wazY5D4sxIc-00240-00067735-00067919 the aerodynamic drag during the wazY5D4sxIc-00241-00067920-00068138 ballistic part of the trajectory and to wazY5D4sxIc-00242-00068139-00068448 increase the efficiency of muscle use wazY5D4sxIc-00243-00068449-00068879 you wazY5D4sxIc-00244-00068880-00069402 topic hovering wazY5D4sxIc-00245-00069403-00069678 several bird species use hovering with wazY5D4sxIc-00246-00069679-00069918 one family specialized for hovering the wazY5D4sxIc-00247-00069919-00070221 hummingbirds true hovering occurs by wazY5D4sxIc-00248-00070222-00070431 generating lift through flapping alone wazY5D4sxIc-00249-00070432-00070638 rather than by passage through the air wazY5D4sxIc-00250-00070639-00070845 requiring considerable energy wazY5D4sxIc-00251-00070846-00070935 expenditure wazY5D4sxIc-00252-00070936-00071217 this usually confines the ability to wazY5D4sxIc-00253-00071218-00071514 smaller birds but some larger birds such wazY5D4sxIc-00254-00071515-00071721 as a kite or Osprey can hover for a wazY5D4sxIc-00255-00071722-00072045 short period of time although not a true wazY5D4sxIc-00256-00072046-00072240 hover some birds remain in a fixed wazY5D4sxIc-00257-00072241-00072483 position relative to the ground or water wazY5D4sxIc-00258-00072484-00072810 by flying into a headwind hummingbirds wazY5D4sxIc-00259-00072811-00073098 kestrels terns and hawks use this wind wazY5D4sxIc-00260-00073099-00073446 hovering most birds that hover have high wazY5D4sxIc-00261-00073447-00073680 aspect ratio wings that are suited to wazY5D4sxIc-00262-00073681-00073847 low-speed flying wazY5D4sxIc-00263-00073848-00074127 hummingbirds are a unique exception the wazY5D4sxIc-00264-00074128-00074390 most accomplished hovers of all birds wazY5D4sxIc-00265-00074391-00074619 hummingbird flight is different from wazY5D4sxIc-00266-00074620-00074802 other bird flight in that the wing is wazY5D4sxIc-00267-00074803-00074988 extended throughout the whole stroke wazY5D4sxIc-00268-00074989-00075195 which is a symmetrical figure of eight wazY5D4sxIc-00269-00075196-00075435 with the wing producing lift on both the wazY5D4sxIc-00270-00075436-00075729 up and down stroke hummingbirds beat wazY5D4sxIc-00271-00075730-00075927 their wings at some forty three times wazY5D4sxIc-00272-00075928-00076143 per second while others may be as high wazY5D4sxIc-00273-00076144-00076846 as 80 times per second wazY5D4sxIc-00274-00076847-00077450 topic takeoff and landing wazY5D4sxIc-00275-00077451-00077632 take off as one of the most wazY5D4sxIc-00276-00077633-00077849 energetically demanding aspects of wazY5D4sxIc-00277-00077850-00078082 flight as the bird must generate enough wazY5D4sxIc-00278-00078083-00078351 air flow across the wing to create lift wazY5D4sxIc-00279-00078352-00078665 small birds do this with a simple upward wazY5D4sxIc-00280-00078666-00078935 jump that doesn't work for larger birds wazY5D4sxIc-00281-00078936-00079156 which must take a run-up to generate wazY5D4sxIc-00282-00079157-00079493 sufficient airflow large birds takeoff wazY5D4sxIc-00283-00079494-00079754 by facing into the wind or if they can wazY5D4sxIc-00284-00079755-00079993 by perching on a branch or cliff so they wazY5D4sxIc-00285-00079994-00080221 can just drop off into the air wazY5D4sxIc-00286-00080222-00080492 Blanding is also a problem for large wazY5D4sxIc-00287-00080493-00080834 birds with high wing loads this problem wazY5D4sxIc-00288-00080835-00081076 is dealt with in some species by aiming wazY5D4sxIc-00289-00081077-00081256 for a point below the intended landing wazY5D4sxIc-00290-00081257-00081518 area such as a nest on a cliff then wazY5D4sxIc-00291-00081519-00081809 pulling up beforehand if timed correctly wazY5D4sxIc-00292-00081810-00082063 the airspeed once the target is reached wazY5D4sxIc-00293-00082064-00082400 as virtually nil landing on water as wazY5D4sxIc-00294-00082401-00082631 simpler and the larger waterfowl species wazY5D4sxIc-00295-00082632-00082835 prefer to do so whenever possible wazY5D4sxIc-00296-00082836-00083101 landing into wind and using their feet wazY5D4sxIc-00297-00083102-00083456 as skids to lose height rapidly prior to wazY5D4sxIc-00298-00083457-00083701 landing some large birds such as geese wazY5D4sxIc-00299-00083702-00083956 indulge in a rapid alternating series of wazY5D4sxIc-00300-00083957-00084187 side slips or even briefly turning wazY5D4sxIc-00301-00084188-00084410 upside down in a maneuver termed as wazY5D4sxIc-00302-00084411-00084983 whiffling wazY5D4sxIc-00303-00084984-00085662 topic coordinated formation flight wazY5D4sxIc-00304-00085663-00085982 a wide variety of birds fly together in wazY5D4sxIc-00305-00085983-00086210 a symmetric v-shaped or a j-shaped wazY5D4sxIc-00306-00086211-00086480 coordinated formation also referred to wazY5D4sxIc-00307-00086481-00086796 as an echelon especially during wazY5D4sxIc-00308-00086797-00087084 long-distance flight or migration it is wazY5D4sxIc-00309-00087085-00087315 often assumed that Birds resort to this wazY5D4sxIc-00310-00087316-00087561 pattern of formation flying in order to wazY5D4sxIc-00311-00087562-00087806 save energy and improve the aerodynamic wazY5D4sxIc-00312-00087807-00088118 efficiency the birds flying at the tips wazY5D4sxIc-00313-00088119-00088287 and at the front would interchange wazY5D4sxIc-00314-00088288-00088562 positions in a timely cyclically to wazY5D4sxIc-00315-00088563-00088781 spread flight fatigue equally among the wazY5D4sxIc-00316-00088782-00089075 flock members the wingtips of the wazY5D4sxIc-00317-00089076-00089337 leading bird in an echelon create a pair wazY5D4sxIc-00318-00089338-00089655 of opposite rotating line vortices the wazY5D4sxIc-00319-00089656-00089892 vortices trailing a bird have an under wazY5D4sxIc-00320-00089893-00090099 washed part behind the bird and at the wazY5D4sxIc-00321-00090100-00090309 same time they have an up wash on the wazY5D4sxIc-00322-00090310-00090522 outside that hypothetically could aid wazY5D4sxIc-00323-00090523-00090881 the flight of a trailing bird in a 1970 wazY5D4sxIc-00324-00090882-00091110 study the authors claimed that each bird wazY5D4sxIc-00325-00091111-00091392 in a v-formation of 25 members can wazY5D4sxIc-00326-00091393-00091623 achieve a reduction of induced drag and wazY5D4sxIc-00327-00091624-00091965 as a result increased their range by 71% wazY5D4sxIc-00328-00091966-00092211 studies of waldrop ibis show that birds wazY5D4sxIc-00329-00092212-00092444 spatially coordinate the phase of wing wazY5D4sxIc-00330-00092445-00092687 flapping and show wingtip path coherence wazY5D4sxIc-00331-00092688-00092967 when flying in V positions thus enabling wazY5D4sxIc-00332-00092968-00093159 them to maximally utilize the available wazY5D4sxIc-00333-00093160-00093443 energy of up wash over the entire flap wazY5D4sxIc-00334-00093444-00093798 cycle in contrast birds flying in a wazY5D4sxIc-00335-00093799-00094029 stream immediately behind another do not wazY5D4sxIc-00336-00094030-00094244 have wingtip coherence in their flight wazY5D4sxIc-00337-00094245-00094422 pattern and their flapping is out of wazY5D4sxIc-00338-00094423-00094700 phase as compared to birds flying in V wazY5D4sxIc-00339-00094701-00094947 patterns so as to avoid the detrimental wazY5D4sxIc-00340-00094948-00095142 effects of the downwash due to the wazY5D4sxIc-00341-00095143-00095344 leading Birds flight wazY5D4sxIc-00342-00095345-00095774 you wazY5D4sxIc-00343-00095775-00096405 topic adaptations for flight wazY5D4sxIc-00344-00096406-00096690 the most obvious adaptation to flight as wazY5D4sxIc-00345-00096691-00096879 the wing but because flight is so wazY5D4sxIc-00346-00096880-00097077 energetically demanding birds have wazY5D4sxIc-00347-00097078-00097308 evolved several other adaptations to wazY5D4sxIc-00348-00097309-00097602 improve efficiency when flying birds wazY5D4sxIc-00349-00097603-00097839 bodies are streamlined to help overcome wazY5D4sxIc-00350-00097840-00098184 air resistance also the bird skeleton is wazY5D4sxIc-00351-00098185-00098370 hollow to reduce weight and many wazY5D4sxIc-00352-00098371-00098637 unnecessary bones have been lost such as wazY5D4sxIc-00353-00098638-00098811 the bony tail of the early bird wazY5D4sxIc-00354-00098812-00099051 Archaeopteryx along with the toothed jaw wazY5D4sxIc-00355-00099052-00099282 of early birds which has been replaced wazY5D4sxIc-00356-00099283-00099555 with a lightweight beak the skeletons wazY5D4sxIc-00357-00099556-00099780 breast bone has also adapted into a wazY5D4sxIc-00358-00099781-00100029 large keel suitable for the attachment wazY5D4sxIc-00359-00100030-00100326 of large powerful flight muscles the wazY5D4sxIc-00360-00100327-00100512 veins of each feather have hook 'lets wazY5D4sxIc-00361-00100513-00100737 called barbules that zip the veins of wazY5D4sxIc-00362-00100738-00100962 individual feathers together giving the wazY5D4sxIc-00363-00100963-00101157 feathers the strength needed to hold the wazY5D4sxIc-00364-00101158-00101352 airfoil these are often lost in wazY5D4sxIc-00365-00101353-00101463 flightless birds wazY5D4sxIc-00366-00101464-00101748 the barbules maintain the shape and wazY5D4sxIc-00367-00101749-00101997 function of the feather each feather has wazY5D4sxIc-00368-00101998-00102219 a major greater side and a minor wazY5D4sxIc-00369-00102220-00102456 lesser side meaning that the Shafter wazY5D4sxIc-00370-00102457-00102675 Rajas does not run down the center of wazY5D4sxIc-00371-00102676-00102896 the feather rather it runs wazY5D4sxIc-00372-00102897-00103122 longitudinally of Center with the lesser wazY5D4sxIc-00373-00103123-00103314 or minor side to the front and the wazY5D4sxIc-00374-00103315-00103542 greater or major side to the rear of the wazY5D4sxIc-00375-00103543-00103827 feather this feather Anatomy during wazY5D4sxIc-00376-00103828-00104060 flight and flapping of the wings causes wazY5D4sxIc-00377-00104061-00104229 a rotation of the feather in its wazY5D4sxIc-00378-00104230-00104534 follicle the rotation occurs in the up wazY5D4sxIc-00379-00104535-00104766 motion of the wing the greater side wazY5D4sxIc-00380-00104767-00105000 points down letting air slip through the wazY5D4sxIc-00381-00105001-00105255 wing this essentially breaks the wazY5D4sxIc-00382-00105256-00105461 integrity of the wing allowing for a wazY5D4sxIc-00383-00105463-00105683 much easier movement in the up direction wazY5D4sxIc-00384-00105683-00105914 the integrity of the wing is wazY5D4sxIc-00385-00105915-00106158 reestablished in the down movement which wazY5D4sxIc-00386-00106158-00106380 allows for part of the lift inherent in wazY5D4sxIc-00387-00106381-00106656 bird wings this function is most wazY5D4sxIc-00388-00106657-00106875 important in taking off or achieving wazY5D4sxIc-00389-00106876-00107151 lift at very low or slow speeds where wazY5D4sxIc-00390-00107152-00107367 the bird is reaching up and grabbing air wazY5D4sxIc-00391-00107368-00107691 and pulling itself up at high speeds the wazY5D4sxIc-00392-00107692-00107913 airfoil function of the wing provides wazY5D4sxIc-00393-00107914-00108096 most of the lift needed to stay in wazY5D4sxIc-00394-00108097-00108252 flight wazY5D4sxIc-00395-00108253-00108489 the large amounts of energy required for wazY5D4sxIc-00396-00108490-00108710 flight have led to the evolution of a wazY5D4sxIc-00397-00108711-00108939 unidirectional pulmonary system to wazY5D4sxIc-00398-00108940-00109122 provide the large quantities of oxygen wazY5D4sxIc-00399-00109123-00109361 required for their high respiratory wazY5D4sxIc-00400-00109363-00109709 rates this high metabolic rate produces wazY5D4sxIc-00401-00109710-00109923 large quantities of radicals in the wazY5D4sxIc-00402-00109924-00110181 cells that can damage DNA and lead to wazY5D4sxIc-00403-00110182-00110538 tumors birds however do not suffer from wazY5D4sxIc-00404-00110539-00110786 an otherwise expected shortened lifespan wazY5D4sxIc-00405-00110788-00110970 as their cells have evolved a more wazY5D4sxIc-00406-00110971-00111195 efficient antioxidant system than those wazY5D4sxIc-00407-00111196-00111429 found in other animals wazY5D4sxIc-00408-00111430-00111856 you wazY5D4sxIc-00409-00111857-00112506 topic evolution of bird flight wazY5D4sxIc-00410-00112507-00112791 most paleontologists agree that birds wazY5D4sxIc-00411-00112792-00113043 evolved from small theropod dinosaurs wazY5D4sxIc-00412-00113044-00113289 but the origin of bird flight as one of wazY5D4sxIc-00413-00113290-00113433 the oldest and most hotly contested wazY5D4sxIc-00414-00113433-00113817 debates in paleontology the four main wazY5D4sxIc-00415-00113818-00114192 hypotheses are from the trees down that wazY5D4sxIc-00416-00114193-00114441 birds ancestors first glided down from wazY5D4sxIc-00417-00114442-00114602 trees and then acquired other wazY5D4sxIc-00418-00114603-00114849 modifications that enabled true powered wazY5D4sxIc-00419-00114850-00115167 flight from the ground up that birds wazY5D4sxIc-00420-00115168-00115416 ancestors were small fast predatory wazY5D4sxIc-00421-00115417-00115644 dinosaurs in which feathers developed wazY5D4sxIc-00422-00115645-00115842 for other reasons and then evolved wazY5D4sxIc-00423-00115843-00116064 further to provide first lift and then wazY5D4sxIc-00424-00116065-00116373 true powered flight wing assisted wazY5D4sxIc-00425-00116374-00116673 incline running where a version of from wazY5D4sxIc-00426-00116674-00116933 the ground up in which bird's wings wazY5D4sxIc-00427-00116934-00117192 originated from for limb modifications wazY5D4sxIc-00428-00117193-00117438 that provided downforce enabling the wazY5D4sxIc-00429-00117439-00117669 proto birds to run up extremely steep wazY5D4sxIc-00430-00117670-00117950 slopes such as the trunks of trees wazY5D4sxIc-00431-00117951-00118218 pouncing Pro Avis which posits that wazY5D4sxIc-00432-00118219-00118452 flight evolved by modification from wazY5D4sxIc-00433-00118453-00118704 arboreal ambush tactics there has also wazY5D4sxIc-00434-00118705-00118917 been debate about whether the earliest wazY5D4sxIc-00435-00118918-00119250 known bird Archaeopteryx could fly it wazY5D4sxIc-00436-00119251-00119483 appears that Archaeopteryx had the brain wazY5D4sxIc-00437-00119484-00119718 structures and inner ear balance sensors wazY5D4sxIc-00438-00119719-00119978 that birds used to control their flight wazY5D4sxIc-00439-00119979-00120255 Archaeopteryx also had a wing feather wazY5D4sxIc-00440-00120256-00120453 arrangement like that of modern birds wazY5D4sxIc-00441-00120454-00120678 and similarly asymmetrical flight wazY5D4sxIc-00442-00120679-00120950 feathers on its wings and tail but wazY5D4sxIc-00443-00120951-00121143 Archaeopteryx lacked the shoulder wazY5D4sxIc-00444-00121144-00121371 mechanism by which modern bird's wings wazY5D4sxIc-00445-00121372-00121632 produce swift powerful upstrokes this wazY5D4sxIc-00446-00121633-00121827 may mean that it and other early birds wazY5D4sxIc-00447-00121828-00122058 were incapable of flapping flight and wazY5D4sxIc-00448-00122058-00122333 could only glide the presence of most wazY5D4sxIc-00449-00122334-00122604 fossils in marine sediments in habitats wazY5D4sxIc-00450-00122605-00122838 devoid of vegetation has led to the wazY5D4sxIc-00451-00122839-00123051 hypothesis that they may have used their wazY5D4sxIc-00452-00123052-00123260 wings as aids to run across the water wazY5D4sxIc-00453-00123261-00123468 surface in the manner of the basilisk wazY5D4sxIc-00454-00123469-00123777 lizards in March 2018 scientists wazY5D4sxIc-00455-00123778-00123986 reported that Archaeopteryx was likely wazY5D4sxIc-00456-00123988-00124194 capable of flight but in a manner wazY5D4sxIc-00457-00124195-00124377 substantially different from that of wazY5D4sxIc-00458-00124378-00124562 modern Birds wazY5D4sxIc-00459-00124563-00124969 you wazY5D4sxIc-00460-00124970-00125540 topic from the trees down wazY5D4sxIc-00461-00125541-00125774 this was the earliest hypothesis wazY5D4sxIc-00462-00125775-00126014 encouraged by the examples of gliding wazY5D4sxIc-00463-00126015-00126242 vertebrates such as flying squirrels wazY5D4sxIc-00464-00126243-00126511 it suggests that proto birds like wazY5D4sxIc-00465-00126513-00126692 Archaeopteryx used their claws to wazY5D4sxIc-00466-00126693-00126950 clamber up trees and glided off from the wazY5D4sxIc-00467-00126951-00127208 tops some recent research undermines the wazY5D4sxIc-00468-00127208-00127589 trees down hypothesis by suggesting that wazY5D4sxIc-00469-00127590-00127775 the earliest birds and their immediate wazY5D4sxIc-00470-00127776-00128123 ancestors did not climb trees modern wazY5D4sxIc-00471-00128124-00128357 birds that forage in trees have much wazY5D4sxIc-00472-00128358-00128570 more curved toe claws than those that wazY5D4sxIc-00473-00128571-00128870 forage on the ground the toe claws of wazY5D4sxIc-00474-00128871-00129107 Mesozoic birds and of closely related wazY5D4sxIc-00475-00129108-00129380 non-avian theropod dinosaurs are like wazY5D4sxIc-00476-00129381-00130125 those of modern ground foraging birds wazY5D4sxIc-00477-00130126-00130766 topic from the ground up feathers are wazY5D4sxIc-00478-00130767-00130968 very common in sealer essaouira wazY5D4sxIc-00479-00130969-00131148 dinosaurs including the early wazY5D4sxIc-00480-00131149-00131508 Tyrannosaur dialogue modern birds are wazY5D4sxIc-00481-00131509-00131748 classified as C Laura soars by nearly wazY5D4sxIc-00482-00131749-00132032 all paleontologists though not by a few wazY5D4sxIc-00483-00132033-00132351 ornithologists the original functions of wazY5D4sxIc-00484-00132352-00132543 feathers may have included thermal wazY5D4sxIc-00485-00132544-00132866 insulation and competitive displays the wazY5D4sxIc-00486-00132867-00133091 most common version of the from the wazY5D4sxIc-00487-00133092-00133413 ground up hypothesis argues that Birds wazY5D4sxIc-00488-00133414-00133647 ancestors were small ground running wazY5D4sxIc-00489-00133648-00133869 predators rather like road runners that wazY5D4sxIc-00490-00133870-00134066 used their forelimbs for balance while wazY5D4sxIc-00491-00134067-00134277 pursuing prey and that the four limbs wazY5D4sxIc-00492-00134278-00134511 and feathers later evolved in ways that wazY5D4sxIc-00493-00134512-00134768 provided gliding and then powered flight wazY5D4sxIc-00494-00134769-00135210 another ground upwards theory argues the wazY5D4sxIc-00495-00135211-00135453 evolution of flight was initially driven wazY5D4sxIc-00496-00135454-00135675 by competitive displays and fighting wazY5D4sxIc-00497-00135676-00135936 displays required longer feathers and wazY5D4sxIc-00498-00135937-00136190 longer stronger four limbs many modern wazY5D4sxIc-00499-00136191-00136410 birds use their wings as weapons and wazY5D4sxIc-00500-00136411-00136662 downward blows have a similar action to wazY5D4sxIc-00501-00136663-00136926 that of flapping flight many of the wazY5D4sxIc-00502-00136927-00137160 Archaeopteryx fossils come from marine wazY5D4sxIc-00503-00137161-00137382 sediments and it has been suggested that wazY5D4sxIc-00504-00137383-00137622 wings may have helped the birds run over wazY5D4sxIc-00505-00137623-00137838 water in the manner of the Jesus Christ wazY5D4sxIc-00506-00137839-00138102 lizard common basilisk most recent wazY5D4sxIc-00507-00138103-00138377 attacks on the from the ground up wazY5D4sxIc-00508-00138378-00138603 hypothesis attempt to refute its wazY5D4sxIc-00509-00138604-00138840 assumption that birds are modified seal wazY5D4sxIc-00510-00138841-00139122 or essaouira dinosaurs the strongest wazY5D4sxIc-00511-00139123-00139313 attacks are based on embryological wazY5D4sxIc-00512-00139314-00139572 analyses which conclude that bird's wazY5D4sxIc-00513-00139573-00139818 wings are formed from digits two three wazY5D4sxIc-00514-00139819-00140037 and four corresponding to the index wazY5D4sxIc-00515-00140038-00140291 middle and ring fingers in humans the wazY5D4sxIc-00516-00140292-00140532 first of a bird's three digits forms the wazY5D4sxIc-00517-00140533-00140775 alula which they used to avoid stalling wazY5D4sxIc-00518-00140776-00141006 on low-speed flight for example when wazY5D4sxIc-00519-00141007-00141231 landing but the hands of C Laura Soares wazY5D4sxIc-00520-00141232-00141554 are formed by digits 1 2 & 3 thumb and wazY5D4sxIc-00521-00141555-00141752 first two fingers in humans wazY5D4sxIc-00522-00141753-00142053 however these embryologically analyses wazY5D4sxIc-00523-00142054-00142239 were immediately challenged on the wazY5D4sxIc-00524-00142240-00142485 embryo logical grounds that the hand wazY5D4sxIc-00525-00142486-00142776 often develops differently in clades wazY5D4sxIc-00526-00142777-00142986 that have lost some digits in the course wazY5D4sxIc-00527-00142987-00143208 of their evolution and therefore bird's wazY5D4sxIc-00528-00143209-00143474 hands do develop from digits 1 2 wazY5D4sxIc-00529-00143475-00144013 and three wazY5D4sxIc-00530-00144014-00144651 topic wing assisted incline running wazY5D4sxIc-00531-00144652-00144918 the wing assisted incline running where wazY5D4sxIc-00532-00144919-00145194 hypothesis was prompted by observation wazY5D4sxIc-00533-00145195-00145428 of young to car chicks and proposes that wazY5D4sxIc-00534-00145429-00145583 wings develop their aerodynamic wazY5D4sxIc-00535-00145584-00145851 functions as a result of the need to run wazY5D4sxIc-00536-00145852-00146094 quickly up very steep slopes such as wazY5D4sxIc-00537-00146095-00146328 tree trunks for example to escape from wazY5D4sxIc-00538-00146329-00146577 predators note that in this scenario wazY5D4sxIc-00539-00146578-00146841 birds need downforce to give their feet wazY5D4sxIc-00540-00146842-00147183 increased grip but early birds including wazY5D4sxIc-00541-00147184-00147381 Archaeopteryx lacked the shoulder wazY5D4sxIc-00542-00147382-00147615 mechanism that modern bird's wings use wazY5D4sxIc-00543-00147616-00147851 to produce swift powerful upstrokes wazY5D4sxIc-00544-00147852-00148140 since the downforce that wear requires wazY5D4sxIc-00545-00148141-00148338 as generated by upstrokes wazY5D4sxIc-00546-00148339-00148557 it seems that early birds were incapable wazY5D4sxIc-00547-00148558-00149125 of wear wazY5D4sxIc-00548-00149126-00149750 topic pouncing Pro Avis model wazY5D4sxIc-00549-00149751-00150004 the pro Avis theory was first proposed wazY5D4sxIc-00550-00150005-00150497 by garner Taylor and Thomas in 1999 we wazY5D4sxIc-00551-00150498-00150671 propose that birds evolved from wazY5D4sxIc-00552-00150672-00150902 predators that specialized in ambush wazY5D4sxIc-00553-00150903-00151118 from elevated sites using their rep wazY5D4sxIc-00554-00151119-00151365 toriel hind limbs in a leaping attack wazY5D4sxIc-00555-00151366-00151634 drag based and later lift based wazY5D4sxIc-00556-00151635-00151903 mechanisms evolved under selection for wazY5D4sxIc-00557-00151904-00152126 improved control of body position and wazY5D4sxIc-00558-00152127-00152357 locomotion during the aerial part of the wazY5D4sxIc-00559-00152358-00152651 attack selection for enhanced lifts wazY5D4sxIc-00560-00152652-00152885 based control led to improved lift wazY5D4sxIc-00561-00152886-00153119 coefficients incidentally turning a wazY5D4sxIc-00562-00153120-00153350 pounce into a swoop as lift production wazY5D4sxIc-00563-00153351-00153674 increased selection for greater swooping wazY5D4sxIc-00564-00153675-00153896 range would finally lead to the origin wazY5D4sxIc-00565-00153897-00154235 of true flight the authors believed that wazY5D4sxIc-00566-00154236-00154591 this theory had four main virtues it wazY5D4sxIc-00567-00154592-00154784 predicts the observed sequence of wazY5D4sxIc-00568-00154785-00155065 character acquisition in avian evolution wazY5D4sxIc-00569-00155066-00155393 it predicts an Archaeopteryx like animal wazY5D4sxIc-00570-00155394-00155590 with a skeleton more or less identical wazY5D4sxIc-00571-00155591-00155861 to terrestrial theropods with few wazY5D4sxIc-00572-00155862-00156077 adaptations to flapping but very wazY5D4sxIc-00573-00156078-00156304 advanced aerodynamic asymmetrical wazY5D4sxIc-00574-00156305-00156596 feathers it explains that primitive wazY5D4sxIc-00575-00156597-00156884 bouncers perhaps like Microraptor could wazY5D4sxIc-00576-00156885-00157111 coexist with more advanced fliers like wazY5D4sxIc-00577-00157112-00157390 Confuciusornis or sappy Onis since they wazY5D4sxIc-00578-00157391-00157686 did not compete for flying niches wazY5D4sxIc-00579-00157687-00157904 it explains that the evolution of wazY5D4sxIc-00580-00157905-00158153 elongated rachis bearing feathers began wazY5D4sxIc-00581-00158154-00158346 with simple forms that produced a wazY5D4sxIc-00582-00158347-00158694 benefit by increasing drag later more wazY5D4sxIc-00583-00158695-00158891 refined feather shapes could begin to wazY5D4sxIc-00584-00158892-00159507 also provide lift wazY5D4sxIc-00585-00159508-00159875 topic uses and loss of flight in modern wazY5D4sxIc-00586-00159876-00160294 Birds wazY5D4sxIc-00587-00160295-00160548 birds use flight to obtain prey on the wazY5D4sxIc-00588-00160549-00160791 wing for foraging to commute to feeding wazY5D4sxIc-00589-00160792-00160984 grounds and to migrate between the wazY5D4sxIc-00590-00160985-00161308 seasons it is also used by some species wazY5D4sxIc-00591-00161309-00161511 to display during the breeding season wazY5D4sxIc-00592-00161512-00161778 and to reach safe isolated places for wazY5D4sxIc-00593-00161779-00162094 nesting flight is more energetically wazY5D4sxIc-00594-00162095-00162351 expensive in larger birds and many of wazY5D4sxIc-00595-00162352-00162615 the largest species fly by soaring and wazY5D4sxIc-00596-00162616-00162816 gliding without flapping their wings as wazY5D4sxIc-00597-00162817-00163112 much as possible many physiological wazY5D4sxIc-00598-00163113-00163329 adaptations have evolved that make wazY5D4sxIc-00599-00163330-00163672 flight more efficient birds that settle wazY5D4sxIc-00600-00163673-00163921 on isolated oceanic islands that lack wazY5D4sxIc-00601-00163922-00164154 ground-based predators often lose the wazY5D4sxIc-00602-00164155-00164454 ability to fly this illustrates both wazY5D4sxIc-00603-00164455-00164664 flights importance in avoiding predators wazY5D4sxIc-00604-00164665-00165424 and it's extreme demand for energy wazY5D4sxIc-00605-00165425-00166285 topic see also flight call flying and wazY5D4sxIc-00606-00166286-00166752 gliding animals insect flight list of wazY5D4sxIc-00607-00166753-00167190 soaring birds ratites trade-offs for wazY5D4sxIc-00608-00167191-00167439 locomotion in air and water wazY5D4sxIc-00609-00167440-00168015 potassium equals equals notes wc-ZeMPsM9u-00000-00000239-00000605 hello my name is Leonardo and I own a wc-ZeMPsM9u-00001-00000606-00000977 multi-functional bike Honda MSX which I wc-ZeMPsM9u-00002-00000977-00001133 can drive here without motorcycle wc-ZeMPsM9u-00003-00001134-00001445 license and today I'm gonna show two wc-ZeMPsM9u-00004-00001446-00001613 main reasons why I own it wc-ZeMPsM9u-00005-00001614-00001907 [Music] wc-ZeMPsM9u-00006-00001907-00002218 sting City ride I live in Las Palmas the wc-ZeMPsM9u-00007-00002219-00002452 grand canalia big city with narrow wc-ZeMPsM9u-00008-00002453-00002645 streets it's very comfortable to have wc-ZeMPsM9u-00009-00002646-00002825 easy control at the bike while driving wc-ZeMPsM9u-00010-00002826-00003089 around cars and turns in traffic wc-ZeMPsM9u-00011-00003090-00003317 I'm using it to go to work shopping wc-ZeMPsM9u-00012-00003318-00003520 going running or just meeting friends wc-ZeMPsM9u-00013-00003521-00004277 for an evening basketball game wc-ZeMPsM9u-00014-00004278-00004535 second thing is just the opposite of the wc-ZeMPsM9u-00015-00004536-00004580 city wc-ZeMPsM9u-00016-00004581-00004817 [Music] wc-ZeMPsM9u-00017-00004818-00005063 it's longer distance riding as I wc-ZeMPsM9u-00018-00005064-00005302 mentioned Gran canalia before here you wc-ZeMPsM9u-00019-00005303-00005470 can find one of the best roads for wc-ZeMPsM9u-00020-00005471-00005747 driving motorcycles but is that little wc-ZeMPsM9u-00021-00005748-00006017 bag a good choice for long rides and can wc-ZeMPsM9u-00022-00006018-00006598 it even handle so many kilometers wc-ZeMPsM9u-00023-00006600-00006863 well let me show you wc-ZeMPsM9u-00024-00006864-00007109 to go outside the city I can simply hit wc-ZeMPsM9u-00025-00007109-00007301 the highway 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wgdqDVNmQO0-00010-00003696-00003940 around a new example nothing of a good wgdqDVNmQO0-00011-00003942-00004336 Ram is the clev cross XR Nami RGB wgdqDVNmQO0-00012-00004337-00004588 so this is typically what a ram box wgdqDVNmQO0-00013-00004589-00004822 looks like Maybank designs from instant wgdqDVNmQO0-00014-00004823-00005047 clear young plastic wgdqDVNmQO0-00015-00005048-00005254 although the more high-end drums wgdqDVNmQO0-00016-00005255-00005470 especially the RGB Rams ironically uh wgdqDVNmQO0-00017-00005471-00005772 come in boxes ironic because wgdqDVNmQO0-00018-00005773-00005968 aesthetically inclined you'd think wgdqDVNmQO0-00019-00005969-00006491 they'd be the ones wgdqDVNmQO0-00020-00006492-00006664 oh wgdqDVNmQO0-00021-00006665-00007045 to be honest with you first time wgdqDVNmQO0-00022-00007045-00007295 but the design looks good the heatsink wgdqDVNmQO0-00023-00007295-00007691 is quite different brush aluminum is wgdqDVNmQO0-00024-00007692-00007823 trying not to drop these things quite wgdqDVNmQO0-00025-00007823-00008014 Hefty too actually although it doesn't wgdqDVNmQO0-00026-00008015-00008346 really matter for um wgdqDVNmQO0-00027-00008347-00008674 basically back in the day naked young wgdqDVNmQO0-00028-00008675-00008837 RAM and that's still how I call Ram now wgdqDVNmQO0-00029-00008838-00008963 I don't know what the technical term is wgdqDVNmQO0-00030-00008964-00009217 so this is what I call naked Ram uh wgdqDVNmQO0-00031-00009218-00009419 problemadito it's just the memory board wgdqDVNmQO0-00032-00009420-00009664 basically and you can see the actual RAM wgdqDVNmQO0-00033-00009665-00009946 chips this is basically what this looks wgdqDVNmQO0-00034-00009947-00010210 like without the heatsink the the one wgdqDVNmQO0-00035-00010211-00010373 with the heatsink looks a lot better wgdqDVNmQO0-00036-00010374-00010745 plus usually my RGB performance wise wgdqDVNmQO0-00037-00010746-00010931 though really there isn't much of a wgdqDVNmQO0-00038-00010932-00011153 difference yes they call these heat wgdqDVNmQO0-00039-00011154-00011399 sinks but there's not a lot of heat wgdqDVNmQO0-00040-00011400-00011633 generated I mean you can overclock RAM wgdqDVNmQO0-00041-00011634-00011896 and that's also something you might want wgdqDVNmQO0-00042-00011897-00012113 to take into consideration but for the wgdqDVNmQO0-00043-00012114-00012395 average user this naked Ram is fine it's wgdqDVNmQO0-00044-00012396-00013261 just that marami cases wgdqDVNmQO0-00045-00013262-00013535 so we have three different kinds of ram wgdqDVNmQO0-00046-00013536-00013727 here you'll notice the basic design is wgdqDVNmQO0-00047-00013728-00013951 the same things wgdqDVNmQO0-00048-00013952-00014165 motherboard we'll get to that in a wgdqDVNmQO0-00049-00014166-00014351 little bit there's a notch here which wgdqDVNmQO0-00050-00014352-00014513 also aligns on the notch on the wgdqDVNmQO0-00051-00014513-00014797 motherboard wgdqDVNmQO0-00052-00014797-00015053 again these are all just you can see the wgdqDVNmQO0-00053-00015054-00015269 memory board here not a sandwich that's wgdqDVNmQO0-00054-00015269-00015593 a heat sink so standard designer for RAM wgdqDVNmQO0-00055-00015594-00015875 memory board you have the heatsink and wgdqDVNmQO0-00056-00015876-00016066 then on top of the heatsink you have the wgdqDVNmQO0-00057-00016068-00016307 RGB so Ram kits come in different wgdqDVNmQO0-00058-00016308-00016669 gigabyte sizes wgdqDVNmQO0-00059-00016670-00016979 so these are this is eight gigabytes and wgdqDVNmQO0-00060-00016980-00017275 eight gigabytes total 16 gigabytes wgdqDVNmQO0-00061-00017276-00017536 we get a lot of beginner customers wgdqDVNmQO0-00062-00017537-00017855 asking uh 16 gigabytes of RAM and we wgdqDVNmQO0-00063-00017856-00018017 don't know if they mean one stick of Ram wgdqDVNmQO0-00064-00018018-00018286 or two sticks of ram most Ram kits are wgdqDVNmQO0-00065-00018287-00018647 denoted like this 8x2 or usually 2x8 you wgdqDVNmQO0-00066-00018648-00018863 first number two being how many sticks wgdqDVNmQO0-00067-00018864-00019127 you get and your second number or your wgdqDVNmQO0-00068-00019128-00019553 number GB that's how many gigabytes per wgdqDVNmQO0-00069-00019554-00019714 stick of ram all right so we're gonna wgdqDVNmQO0-00070-00019715-00020005 demonstrate how to uninstall Ram first wgdqDVNmQO0-00071-00020006-00020321 installation two sticks of ram if you're wgdqDVNmQO0-00072-00020322-00020603 facing the motherboard as a right side wgdqDVNmQO0-00073-00020604-00020869 and it's very clear wgdqDVNmQO0-00074-00020870-00021203 dim slots dim is just another name for wgdqDVNmQO0-00075-00021204-00021419 Ram and basically you just slot the ram wgdqDVNmQO0-00076-00021420-00021739 into place wgdqDVNmQO0-00077-00021740-00022078 so to uninstall them first release the wgdqDVNmQO0-00078-00022079-00022505 clasp so may lock detail push away from wgdqDVNmQO0-00079-00022506-00022727 the board and away from the ramen wgdqDVNmQO0-00080-00022728-00022908 alongside wgdqDVNmQO0-00081-00022909-00023291 need to unlock both clasps and you'll wgdqDVNmQO0-00082-00023292-00023728 notice Ram wgdqDVNmQO0-00083-00023729-00023980 so again just slip it out let's do the wgdqDVNmQO0-00084-00023981-00024136 same you can do this sequentially like wgdqDVNmQO0-00085-00024137-00024408 one at a time wgdqDVNmQO0-00086-00024409-00024700 jumper that's fine that's good before we wgdqDVNmQO0-00087-00024701-00024947 install does it matter where you put the wgdqDVNmQO0-00088-00024948-00025213 RAM sticks of ram nothing wgdqDVNmQO0-00089-00025214-00025705 Ram performance increase wgdqDVNmQO0-00090-00025706-00025955 it activates dual Channel memory wgdqDVNmQO0-00091-00025956-00026111 something we've talked about in other wgdqDVNmQO0-00092-00026112-00026368 videos but basically yes there is a wgdqDVNmQO0-00093-00026369-00026681 proper configuration gaganana Mantra if wgdqDVNmQO0-00094-00026682-00026824 you don't use the proper configuration wgdqDVNmQO0-00095-00026825-00027095 but you don't get the big benefit of the wgdqDVNmQO0-00096-00027095-00027337 Dual Channel memory wgdqDVNmQO0-00097-00027338-00027623 dual Channel memory unfortunately you do wgdqDVNmQO0-00098-00027624-00027857 need to check your motherboard manual wgdqDVNmQO0-00099-00027858-00028043 all right so how to install the ram wgdqDVNmQO0-00100-00028044-00028283 align the notch with the notch here you wgdqDVNmQO0-00101-00028283-00028457 can see the black Notch here wgdqDVNmQO0-00102-00028458-00028667 align the end wgdqDVNmQO0-00103-00028668-00029140 align the two ends with the end here and wgdqDVNmQO0-00104-00029141-00029423 just leave it in and don't be afraid to wgdqDVNmQO0-00105-00029424-00029893 press down hard wgdqDVNmQO0-00106-00029894-00030205 and press down hard wgdqDVNmQO0-00107-00030206-00030449 you'll notice there's a satisfying click wgdqDVNmQO0-00108-00030450-00030646 when you get the Ram into position plus wgdqDVNmQO0-00109-00030647-00030895 maglalaksha automatically wgdqDVNmQO0-00110-00030895-00031261 slots two three and four unlocked wgdqDVNmQO0-00111-00031262-00031740 away from the motherboard wgdqDVNmQO0-00112-00031741-00032105 in place automatically is a physical wgdqDVNmQO0-00113-00032106-00032302 insulation but for Ram there is a wgdqDVNmQO0-00114-00032303-00032489 setting you need to enable to get the wgdqDVNmQO0-00115-00032489-00032764 fastest speed and that's the XMP setting wgdqDVNmQO0-00116-00032766-00032902 in your bios wgdqDVNmQO0-00117-00032903-00033161 go to your bios by pressing delete or F2 wgdqDVNmQO0-00118-00033162-00033346 on your keyboard immediately after wgdqDVNmQO0-00119-00033347-00033551 turning on your computer wgdqDVNmQO0-00120-00033552-00033827 so I just keep pressing until I get to wgdqDVNmQO0-00121-00033828-00034073 bios find the XMP setting and set the wgdqDVNmQO0-00122-00034074-00034246 proper profile wgdqDVNmQO0-00123-00034247-00034546 free speed boost don't forget to save wgdqDVNmQO0-00124-00034547-00034762 the setting when you exit the BIOS wgdqDVNmQO0-00125-00034763-00034918 last thing about Ram you can actually wgdqDVNmQO0-00126-00034919-00035207 get more for free don't download dram wgdqDVNmQO0-00127-00035208-00035489 scam Yan but you can use your storage as wgdqDVNmQO0-00128-00035490-00035735 additional RAM this is the page file wgdqDVNmQO0-00129-00035736-00036011 it's much slower though than regular Ram wgdqDVNmQO0-00130-00036012-00036329 so recommended for everyone and I wgdqDVNmQO0-00131-00036330-00036521 wouldn't recommend it for beginners but wgdqDVNmQO0-00132-00036522-00036652 if you're feeling adventurous you can wgdqDVNmQO0-00133-00036653-00036827 change the page file size by going to wgdqDVNmQO0-00134-00036828-00037151 control panel system Advanced system wgdqDVNmQO0-00135-00037152-00037559 settings Advanced tab performance then wgdqDVNmQO0-00136-00037560-00037889 Advanced tab again then virtual memory wgdqDVNmQO0-00137-00037890-00038087 Ram is one of the easiest parts to wgdqDVNmQO0-00138-00038088-00038285 install and whenever something goes wgdqDVNmQO0-00139-00038286-00038459 wrong in my computer usually the first wgdqDVNmQO0-00140-00038460-00038729 thing I do is to reinstall the ram turn wgdqDVNmQO0-00141-00038730-00038957 everything off remove it and then put it wgdqDVNmQO0-00142-00038958-00039124 back in again you'd be surprised how wgdqDVNmQO0-00143-00039125-00039702 many times or any computer after that wgdqDVNmQO0-00144-00039703-00040105 trusted wgdqDVNmQO0-00145-00040106-00040405 full service species storing Hardware wgdqDVNmQO0-00146-00040406-00040668 PC components wgdqDVNmQO0-00147-00040669-00041095 fully assembled rigs we clean computers wgdqDVNmQO0-00148-00041096-00041411 excellent cable management and CPU wgdqDVNmQO0-00149-00041412-00041633 Cooler repair things are cleaning wgdqDVNmQO0-00150-00041634-00042049 we also clean and reface gpus wgdqDVNmQO0-00151-00042050-00042274 physicals tournament and you can also wgdqDVNmQO0-00152-00042275-00042624 buy from our site wgdqDVNmQO0-00153-00042625-00042965 www.hwsugar.ph now 100 palagging up to wgdqDVNmQO0-00154-00042966-00043111 date you inventory wgdqDVNmQO0-00155-00043112-00043487 items available in society we also ship wgdqDVNmQO0-00156-00043488-00043673 Nationwide thanks for watching and maybe wgdqDVNmQO0-00157-00043674-00044047 one of these days mankita ties a shop whCwNHxIgzE-00000-00000000-00001087 [Music] whCwNHxIgzE-00001-00001088-00001343 hi I'm Chris Hoffman and we're gonna whCwNHxIgzE-00002-00001344-00001562 talk about services specifically how to whCwNHxIgzE-00003-00001563-00001688 move from a seemingly intractable whCwNHxIgzE-00004-00001689-00001960 monolith to an ecosystem of services whCwNHxIgzE-00005-00001961-00002095 that you can operate well and whCwNHxIgzE-00006-00002096-00002597 sustainably I work at up Toro we're an whCwNHxIgzE-00007-00002598-00002963 e-commerce firm headquartered in DC the whCwNHxIgzE-00008-00002964-00003071 only thing that's interesting about us whCwNHxIgzE-00009-00003072-00003259 is how we source our inventory we whCwNHxIgzE-00010-00003260-00003485 aggregate retail returns so if you're whCwNHxIgzE-00011-00003486-00003638 Best Buy or you're a target or some whCwNHxIgzE-00012-00003639-00003874 other major retailer turns our knowing whCwNHxIgzE-00013-00003875-00004138 what we do is we take those that return whCwNHxIgzE-00014-00004139-00004288 merchandise off your hands we test and whCwNHxIgzE-00015-00004289-00004477 grade everything that comes through our whCwNHxIgzE-00016-00004478-00004706 warehouse and we figure out whether it's whCwNHxIgzE-00017-00004707-00004852 based on the clients recovery goals whCwNHxIgzE-00018-00004853-00005051 whether we should resell it individually whCwNHxIgzE-00019-00005052-00005206 or resell it in bulk or donate it or whCwNHxIgzE-00020-00005207-00005645 recycle it then we sell we sell stuff on whCwNHxIgzE-00021-00005646-00005870 a variety of online marketplaces Amazon whCwNHxIgzE-00022-00005871-00006167 Best Buy eBay our own market plays whCwNHxIgzE-00023-00006168-00006529 blinked calm things ending in queue will whCwNHxIgzE-00024-00006530-00006662 be will happen again whCwNHxIgzE-00025-00006663-00006856 I don't even after five and a half years whCwNHxIgzE-00026-00006858-00006980 I don't know why we end things in queue whCwNHxIgzE-00027-00006981-00007352 we just we just do that's about all whCwNHxIgzE-00028-00007353-00007448 you'll need to know about the business whCwNHxIgzE-00029-00007448-00007720 model so I've been out tour for five and whCwNHxIgzE-00030-00007722-00007978 a half years we've we still have a whCwNHxIgzE-00031-00007979-00008198 monolith but we're moving towards we're whCwNHxIgzE-00032-00008199-00008501 more and more moving towards a ecosystem whCwNHxIgzE-00033-00008502-00008681 of services around it whCwNHxIgzE-00034-00008682-00008839 and over that period of time we've done whCwNHxIgzE-00035-00008840-00009002 several service projects I've been whCwNHxIgzE-00036-00009003-00009214 involved in a bunch of them they weren't whCwNHxIgzE-00037-00009215-00009509 all successes so what I'm going to do whCwNHxIgzE-00038-00009510-00009796 today is talk about three of them I'm whCwNHxIgzE-00039-00009797-00009962 going to tell you what we were trying to whCwNHxIgzE-00040-00009963-00010121 do so you have enough context what we whCwNHxIgzE-00041-00010122-00010310 did wrong well we did right and then whCwNHxIgzE-00042-00010311-00010448 we're gonna finish the talk or I'm gonna whCwNHxIgzE-00043-00010449-00010663 finish the talk by giving you some whCwNHxIgzE-00044-00010664-00011021 advice on how to what to do before you whCwNHxIgzE-00045-00011022-00011141 start doing any service projects how to whCwNHxIgzE-00046-00011142-00011278 approach your first service projects whCwNHxIgzE-00047-00011279-00011405 that's different than the ones that'll whCwNHxIgzE-00048-00011406-00011635 come after and then how to operate an whCwNHxIgzE-00049-00011636-00011909 ecosystem of them without having a bad whCwNHxIgzE-00050-00011910-00012491 time so I started in 2012 but our first whCwNHxIgzE-00051-00012492-00012731 and and I walked into a company that was whCwNHxIgzE-00052-00012732-00012847 already trying to figure out how do we whCwNHxIgzE-00053-00012848-00013004 how do we break apart our model it's whCwNHxIgzE-00054-00013005-00013133 like this these were conversations that whCwNHxIgzE-00055-00013134-00013405 were already happening when I got the whCwNHxIgzE-00056-00013406-00013675 we didn't actually give it a go whCwNHxIgzE-00057-00013676-00014089 until until 2013 we started with off whCwNHxIgzE-00058-00014090-00014699 because that's easy right so yeah no not whCwNHxIgzE-00059-00014700-00015028 so much with any multi-tenant software whCwNHxIgzE-00060-00015029-00015302 off is never just permissions it's whCwNHxIgzE-00061-00015303-00015559 always more than permissions in our case whCwNHxIgzE-00062-00015560-00015859 specifically authorization its authorize whCwNHxIgzE-00063-00015860-00016030 a request we need to know not just what whCwNHxIgzE-00064-00016031-00016234 permissions a user has by way of what whCwNHxIgzE-00065-00016235-00016411 user group they're in but also who whCwNHxIgzE-00066-00016412-00016531 they're employed by and what warehouse whCwNHxIgzE-00067-00016532-00016775 they're assigned to because our software whCwNHxIgzE-00068-00016776-00017021 runs on a hardware that we provide in whCwNHxIgzE-00069-00017022-00017405 our clients warehouses which presents an whCwNHxIgzE-00070-00017406-00017587 immediate problem for extracting things whCwNHxIgzE-00071-00017588-00017992 to an off service it's really easy to whCwNHxIgzE-00072-00017993-00018161 see that the user user group permission whCwNHxIgzE-00073-00018162-00018322 model cluster is going to be owned by whCwNHxIgzE-00074-00018323-00018464 off and it isn't going to be owned by whCwNHxIgzE-00075-00018465-00018661 inventory anymore but then you have this whCwNHxIgzE-00076-00018662-00018862 hanging relationship across a network whCwNHxIgzE-00077-00018863-00019234 boundary because auth still needs to whCwNHxIgzE-00078-00019235-00019369 know the client warehouse to authorize a whCwNHxIgzE-00079-00019370-00019705 request but that but those are core whCwNHxIgzE-00080-00019706-00019828 models to inventory like it's an whCwNHxIgzE-00081-00019829-00020014 inventory management system warehouse is whCwNHxIgzE-00082-00020015-00020383 kind of a central concept so we were we whCwNHxIgzE-00083-00020384-00020603 were a bit at a loss and we didn't whCwNHxIgzE-00084-00020604-00020900 really know as much about distributed whCwNHxIgzE-00085-00020901-00021152 systems in general as we as we do now so whCwNHxIgzE-00086-00021153-00021403 we didn't really solve this data sharing whCwNHxIgzE-00087-00021404-00021694 problem we just kind of punted on it so whCwNHxIgzE-00088-00021695-00021950 whenever inventory wanted to authorize a whCwNHxIgzE-00089-00021951-00022180 request it would make a request to off whCwNHxIgzE-00090-00022181-00022525 and then off so ago hey auth can is this whCwNHxIgzE-00091-00022526-00022655 person allow to do this and then off whCwNHxIgzE-00092-00022656-00022877 would ask inventory inventory where do whCwNHxIgzE-00093-00022878-00023317 they work again and except it had to be whCwNHxIgzE-00094-00023318-00023527 a different inventory because in stage whCwNHxIgzE-00095-00023528-00023740 we actually completely locked up our whCwNHxIgzE-00096-00023741-00023968 application see if you block a web whCwNHxIgzE-00097-00023969-00024190 request to do a thing that requires whCwNHxIgzE-00098-00024191-00024409 making a web request - the first thing whCwNHxIgzE-00099-00024410-00024631 you do enough web requests at the same whCwNHxIgzE-00100-00024632-00024784 time and suddenly your service doesn't whCwNHxIgzE-00101-00024785-00025130 work anymore so yeah we learned that for whCwNHxIgzE-00102-00025131-00025543 production kind of that inventory that whCwNHxIgzE-00103-00025544-00025720 returns the information to off and then whCwNHxIgzE-00104-00025722-00026134 off gives inventory Arna a big problem whCwNHxIgzE-00105-00026135-00026301 with this and the reason we eventually whCwNHxIgzE-00106-00026302-00026576 stopped doing this project was that this whCwNHxIgzE-00107-00026577-00026702 introduced whCwNHxIgzE-00108-00026702-00026900 unacceptable latency into into our whCwNHxIgzE-00109-00026901-00027080 system this is just the start of a whCwNHxIgzE-00110-00027081-00027260 request and we've we've turned something whCwNHxIgzE-00111-00027261-00027562 that went from zero network transactions whCwNHxIgzE-00112-00027563-00027850 into to earn Network requests into two whCwNHxIgzE-00113-00027851-00028106 and then like I said this is just the whCwNHxIgzE-00114-00028107-00028232 start of the request the rest of it you whCwNHxIgzE-00115-00028233-00028460 still have to like ship the unit or test whCwNHxIgzE-00116-00028461-00028757 and grade an item and we were just not whCwNHxIgzE-00117-00028758-00028904 okay even with the dedicated inventory whCwNHxIgzE-00118-00028905-00029174 instances of the of the performance whCwNHxIgzE-00119-00029175-00029508 penalty here so we so we can the project whCwNHxIgzE-00120-00029510-00029783 so it's all well and good for me here to whCwNHxIgzE-00121-00029783-00029957 sit up here and tell ghost stories and whCwNHxIgzE-00122-00029958-00030119 have animal pictures and diagrams but if whCwNHxIgzE-00123-00030120-00030287 if you are if you if y'all aren't whCwNHxIgzE-00124-00030288-00030425 actually learning something from it then whCwNHxIgzE-00125-00030426-00030602 it's kind of waste of time fortunately whCwNHxIgzE-00126-00030602-00030806 as I mentioned we messed up lots of whCwNHxIgzE-00127-00030807-00031022 stuff and and there's lots of things you whCwNHxIgzE-00128-00031023-00031165 can learn so that you'll make different whCwNHxIgzE-00129-00031166-00031511 mistakes because because that's the goal whCwNHxIgzE-00130-00031512-00031733 the first takeaway and the thing we whCwNHxIgzE-00131-00031733-00031864 notice immediately when trying to pull whCwNHxIgzE-00132-00031866-00032095 data out of a monolith is that callbacks whCwNHxIgzE-00133-00032097-00032600 are not your friend they they're kind of whCwNHxIgzE-00134-00032601-00032758 raison d'être is to hide code from you whCwNHxIgzE-00135-00032760-00032896 and if they're hiding code that only whCwNHxIgzE-00136-00032897-00033152 changes that model I don't like it you whCwNHxIgzE-00137-00033153-00033299 know but maybe it's okay in your whCwNHxIgzE-00138-00033300-00033548 applications active record makes it whCwNHxIgzE-00139-00033549-00033770 really easy to touch related models like whCwNHxIgzE-00140-00033771-00034265 that's its job and if your callbacks whCwNHxIgzE-00141-00034266-00034556 which are hidden from you are touching whCwNHxIgzE-00142-00034557-00034718 related models and you have to try to whCwNHxIgzE-00143-00034719-00034883 extract those related models from your whCwNHxIgzE-00144-00034884-00035060 from your database that gets really whCwNHxIgzE-00145-00035061-00035201 frustrating like hair-pulling lee whCwNHxIgzE-00146-00035202-00035557 frustrating very quickly after this whCwNHxIgzE-00147-00035558-00035879 basically after this project at op whCwNHxIgzE-00148-00035880-00036011 taurah we just basically don't write whCwNHxIgzE-00149-00036012-00036182 rails callbacks anymore we have other whCwNHxIgzE-00150-00036183-00036434 patterns for linearizing persistence whCwNHxIgzE-00151-00036435-00036725 actions and we try to get rid of the whCwNHxIgzE-00152-00036726-00037048 callbacks we still got whenever we can whCwNHxIgzE-00153-00037049-00037283 so I highly recommend that you do this whCwNHxIgzE-00154-00037284-00037499 the one thing I will say in in in the whCwNHxIgzE-00155-00037500-00037640 defense of callbacks is that they do whCwNHxIgzE-00156-00037641-00037799 transaction management for you which is whCwNHxIgzE-00157-00037800-00038215 a good thing all the with the exception whCwNHxIgzE-00158-00038216-00038312 of the before train the before whCwNHxIgzE-00159-00038313-00038435 transaction the after transaction whCwNHxIgzE-00160-00038436-00038600 callback all the callbacks related to a whCwNHxIgzE-00161-00038601-00038768 particular save will happen in a whCwNHxIgzE-00162-00038769-00038912 transaction so they'll happen they will whCwNHxIgzE-00163-00038913-00039131 either happen atomically or not happen whCwNHxIgzE-00164-00039132-00039293 atomically you won't have some of them whCwNHxIgzE-00165-00039294-00039449 happening sometime not happening this is whCwNHxIgzE-00166-00039450-00039686 actually really good behavior and you whCwNHxIgzE-00167-00039687-00039802 should and you should one get rid of whCwNHxIgzE-00168-00039803-00040512 callbacks and to recreate that behaviors whCwNHxIgzE-00169-00040513-00040727 I'm not going to say that like you whCwNHxIgzE-00170-00040728-00040874 should do this or you're a bad developer whCwNHxIgzE-00171-00040875-00041003 if you're not because I really don't whCwNHxIgzE-00172-00041004-00041123 like people getting up on stage and whCwNHxIgzE-00173-00041124-00041351 saying that especially white men because whCwNHxIgzE-00174-00041352-00041495 it generally comes from a place of toxic whCwNHxIgzE-00175-00041496-00041668 gatekeeping so I won't but I will say whCwNHxIgzE-00176-00041669-00042068 that transact the understanding whCwNHxIgzE-00177-00042069-00042196 transactions in transaction isolation whCwNHxIgzE-00178-00042197-00042395 isn't going to get less important the whCwNHxIgzE-00179-00042396-00042578 more services you have and the better whCwNHxIgzE-00180-00042579-00042746 you understand these things then nicer whCwNHxIgzE-00181-00042747-00042935 to the you will have a better time when whCwNHxIgzE-00182-00042936-00043301 you get more services even if you have whCwNHxIgzE-00183-00043302-00043448 callbacks though or even if you have whCwNHxIgzE-00184-00043449-00043700 gotten rid of all your callbacks data whCwNHxIgzE-00185-00043701-00043840 sharing is still hard how do you how do whCwNHxIgzE-00186-00043841-00044095 you figure out where shared models go whCwNHxIgzE-00187-00044096-00044351 you know which which of your services whCwNHxIgzE-00188-00044352-00044698 that needs a model owns that model and whCwNHxIgzE-00189-00044699-00044951 like I said we we kind of punted off and whCwNHxIgzE-00190-00044952-00045167 had to spin up a second monolith just whCwNHxIgzE-00191-00045168-00045425 for just for fun and there are some whCwNHxIgzE-00192-00045426-00045590 there's some strategies you can use you whCwNHxIgzE-00193-00045591-00045782 can think about sharing a database but whCwNHxIgzE-00194-00045783-00045962 ok so you've got two apps writing it whCwNHxIgzE-00195-00045963-00046148 right into one database the problem with whCwNHxIgzE-00196-00046149-00046315 with this is that no matter which app whCwNHxIgzE-00197-00046316-00046460 you are the other app is evil and whCwNHxIgzE-00198-00046461-00046621 doesn't share your and doesn't share whCwNHxIgzE-00199-00046622-00046850 your values your validations and will whCwNHxIgzE-00200-00046851-00046985 corrupt your data out from under you so whCwNHxIgzE-00201-00046986-00047215 that that's a bad idea there's a lot of whCwNHxIgzE-00202-00047216-00047429 other strategies when I go into them but whCwNHxIgzE-00203-00047430-00047677 though the one thing that we should have whCwNHxIgzE-00204-00047678-00047795 done and we didn't realize this until whCwNHxIgzE-00205-00047796-00047939 like years later like I said after we whCwNHxIgzE-00206-00047940-00048119 started learning more about distributed whCwNHxIgzE-00207-00048120-00048346 systems in general and you are building whCwNHxIgzE-00208-00048347-00048508 a distributed system when you are when whCwNHxIgzE-00209-00048509-00048790 you are embarking on a service project whCwNHxIgzE-00210-00048791-00049046 we don't generally think of like Ruby whCwNHxIgzE-00211-00049047-00049379 having a big presence in in distributed whCwNHxIgzE-00212-00049380-00049475 systems but like that's what you're whCwNHxIgzE-00213-00049476-00049793 building so this is this is what we whCwNHxIgzE-00214-00049794-00049889 should have done with the benefit of whCwNHxIgzE-00215-00049890-00049933 hindsight whCwNHxIgzE-00216-00049934-00050165 so I said warehouse and client didn't whCwNHxIgzE-00217-00050166-00050606 belong in inventory yes so that's a lie whCwNHxIgzE-00218-00050607-00050879 they they pretty much did or they didn't whCwNHxIgzE-00219-00050880-00051133 belong in auth they pretty much did the whCwNHxIgzE-00220-00051134-00051500 the right move here is to is to have whCwNHxIgzE-00221-00051501-00051889 auth B is to have off B own warehouse whCwNHxIgzE-00222-00051890-00052079 and client in the way that would work whCwNHxIgzE-00223-00052079-00052279 would be often inventory their own their whCwNHxIgzE-00224-00052280-00052396 own apps they've got their own databases whCwNHxIgzE-00225-00052397-00052721 and off now services requests growth no whCwNHxIgzE-00226-00052722-00052879 services requests for client creation whCwNHxIgzE-00227-00052880-00053041 for warehouse creation and user creation whCwNHxIgzE-00228-00053042-00053281 it actually creates this nice you act us whCwNHxIgzE-00229-00053282-00053424 UX and request flow whCwNHxIgzE-00230-00053425-00053549 because you're creating the client and whCwNHxIgzE-00231-00053550-00053657 you're creating their warehouses in the whCwNHxIgzE-00232-00053658-00053772 air creating their users all in one whCwNHxIgzE-00233-00053773-00053916 place so that's that's a nice whCwNHxIgzE-00234-00053916-00054251 hierarchical set up but inventory still whCwNHxIgzE-00235-00054252-00054474 needs that information because it has whCwNHxIgzE-00236-00054475-00054701 two service requests about I'm gonna whCwNHxIgzE-00237-00054702-00054917 scan this unit in and if inventory goes whCwNHxIgzE-00238-00054918-00055059 that warehouse is not a place I don't whCwNHxIgzE-00239-00055060-00055286 know what's going on 404 then that's whCwNHxIgzE-00240-00055287-00055556 unacceptable for our users so what we whCwNHxIgzE-00241-00055557-00055790 need off to do is off to tell inventory whCwNHxIgzE-00242-00055791-00056103 every time it gets a new warehouse or a whCwNHxIgzE-00243-00056104-00056223 new client or anytime warehouse or a whCwNHxIgzE-00244-00056224-00056336 client are changed in a certain way or whCwNHxIgzE-00245-00056337-00056460 any time warehouses their clients were whCwNHxIgzE-00246-00056461-00056586 moot or removed that one's especially whCwNHxIgzE-00247-00056587-00056816 important we want inventory to freak out whCwNHxIgzE-00248-00056817-00057056 if people who are no longer on contract whCwNHxIgzE-00249-00057057-00057341 are still using our software so auth whCwNHxIgzE-00250-00057342-00057482 says hey inventory we sign these new whCwNHxIgzE-00251-00057483-00057605 clients they've got these warehouses whCwNHxIgzE-00252-00057606-00057747 don't freak out when they try to scan whCwNHxIgzE-00253-00057748-00057924 warehouses or try to scan units in it whCwNHxIgzE-00254-00057925-00058110 those locations inventory says thanks whCwNHxIgzE-00255-00058111-00058290 200 okay I really appreciate you looking whCwNHxIgzE-00256-00058291-00058653 out for me like that you might think of whCwNHxIgzE-00257-00058654-00058878 this as data replication or they're whCwNHxIgzE-00258-00058879-00059080 similar to caching I tend not to not whCwNHxIgzE-00259-00059081-00059306 like those words for this application whCwNHxIgzE-00260-00059307-00059513 because those they imply a degree of whCwNHxIgzE-00261-00059514-00059891 sameness and and and the data doesn't whCwNHxIgzE-00262-00059892-00060292 need to be the same in all these places whCwNHxIgzE-00263-00060293-00060522 basically this is if you were here for whCwNHxIgzE-00264-00060523-00060686 the previous talk this is pretty much whCwNHxIgzE-00265-00060687-00060846 the most the most primitive example of whCwNHxIgzE-00266-00060847-00061130 event sourcing you can get but the data whCwNHxIgzE-00267-00061131-00061307 doesn't need to be the same if we take whCwNHxIgzE-00268-00061308-00061613 another example shipping and accounting whCwNHxIgzE-00269-00061614-00061781 both shipping and Accounting need to whCwNHxIgzE-00270-00061782-00062012 understand the concept of unit but they whCwNHxIgzE-00271-00062013-00062105 have very different requirements for whCwNHxIgzE-00272-00062106-00062276 what that means accounting doesn't need whCwNHxIgzE-00273-00062277-00062409 to know how much a unit weighs because whCwNHxIgzE-00274-00062410-00062586 it doesn't care and shipping doesn't whCwNHxIgzE-00275-00062587-00062669 know how to need to know how much we whCwNHxIgzE-00276-00062670-00062792 charged the client for the unit because whCwNHxIgzE-00277-00062793-00062969 it doesn't care but they both need a whCwNHxIgzE-00278-00062970-00063419 concept of a unit so the the general whCwNHxIgzE-00279-00063420-00063794 pattern we do now is for every model whCwNHxIgzE-00280-00063795-00063915 that we want to share between multiple whCwNHxIgzE-00281-00063916-00064191 services we pick a service usually at whCwNHxIgzE-00282-00064191-00064353 the start of the lifecycle you'll know whCwNHxIgzE-00283-00064354-00064556 where because you understand a lifecycle whCwNHxIgzE-00284-00064557-00064838 of your models to be the origin service whCwNHxIgzE-00285-00064839-00065040 for that model so in so on our in our whCwNHxIgzE-00286-00065041-00065334 off case off is the origin service for whCwNHxIgzE-00287-00065335-00065496 users for and more importantly for whCwNHxIgzE-00288-00065497-00065673 warehouses of clients in our example and whCwNHxIgzE-00289-00065674-00066042 what that means is that any other whCwNHxIgzE-00290-00066043-00066204 service that's not the origin service whCwNHxIgzE-00291-00066205-00066422 will call them downstream can have whCwNHxIgzE-00292-00066423-00066656 warehouses tables whCwNHxIgzE-00293-00066657-00066836 all those tables have to have an origin whCwNHxIgzE-00294-00066837-00067037 ID column that is essentially a foreign whCwNHxIgzE-00295-00067038-00067253 key constraint across a network to the whCwNHxIgzE-00296-00067254-00067526 ID column in in the auth tables we're in whCwNHxIgzE-00297-00067527-00067685 the office services warehouses table whCwNHxIgzE-00298-00067686-00067886 your origin service for a particular whCwNHxIgzE-00299-00067887-00068066 model is the only one that doesn't have whCwNHxIgzE-00300-00068067-00068261 to have an origin ID put it put a whCwNHxIgzE-00301-00068262-00068369 different way it's the only one that whCwNHxIgzE-00302-00068370-00068585 gets to make globally system-wide new whCwNHxIgzE-00303-00068586-00068792 records every other service gets to make whCwNHxIgzE-00304-00068793-00068999 locally new records but they're a whCwNHxIgzE-00305-00069000-00069191 reflection or a view of a representation whCwNHxIgzE-00306-00069192-00069434 of records you've already got in the whCwNHxIgzE-00307-00069435-00069629 entire system and they won't always whCwNHxIgzE-00308-00069630-00069767 contain data that was present in the whCwNHxIgzE-00309-00069768-00069917 originating system in our shipping whCwNHxIgzE-00310-00069918-00070103 example shipping is going to make a call whCwNHxIgzE-00311-00070104-00070370 out to FedEx rate or UPS or whatever whCwNHxIgzE-00312-00070371-00070490 shipping provider we have and it's gonna whCwNHxIgzE-00313-00070491-00070628 write down a weight in the database whCwNHxIgzE-00314-00070629-00070808 which will not have been present when whCwNHxIgzE-00315-00070809-00071110 the unit was received and that's fine whCwNHxIgzE-00316-00071111-00071405 these so the takeaway there is if you whCwNHxIgzE-00317-00071406-00071720 need to share data broadcasted don't try whCwNHxIgzE-00318-00071721-00071873 to sync it don't try to share a database whCwNHxIgzE-00319-00071874-00072077 tell people about what happened tell whCwNHxIgzE-00320-00072078-00072191 people about what's happened tell your whCwNHxIgzE-00321-00072192-00072305 independent services about what's whCwNHxIgzE-00322-00072306-00072902 happening so we we did fail we learned a whCwNHxIgzE-00323-00072903-00073016 lot of things like two or three years whCwNHxIgzE-00324-00073017-00073145 down the line but that that service did whCwNHxIgzE-00325-00073146-00073325 not make an interpretation one of the whCwNHxIgzE-00326-00073326-00073451 other lessons we took from that was it whCwNHxIgzE-00327-00073452-00073601 was too big we started we were too whCwNHxIgzE-00328-00073602-00074105 ambitious and the whale killed us so the whCwNHxIgzE-00329-00074106-00074315 thing we did the the very next year is whCwNHxIgzE-00330-00074316-00074537 try to go as small as possible we said whCwNHxIgzE-00331-00074538-00074711 what's what what can we do that's that's whCwNHxIgzE-00332-00074712-00075041 very small and we we've looked at whCwNHxIgzE-00333-00075042-00075284 product photo processing so uploading whCwNHxIgzE-00334-00075285-00075590 resizing and cropping of images and if whCwNHxIgzE-00335-00075591-00075710 you're thinking that that sounds like whCwNHxIgzE-00336-00075711-00075875 something a background worker can do so whCwNHxIgzE-00337-00075876-00076661 just hold that thought so we had this whCwNHxIgzE-00338-00076662-00076820 other technical difficulty that was whCwNHxIgzE-00339-00076821-00077030 present in the auth service as well but whCwNHxIgzE-00340-00077031-00077159 it doesn't make it doesn't make whCwNHxIgzE-00341-00077160-00077261 pedagogical sense to talk about it whCwNHxIgzE-00342-00077262-00077519 there's I'm talking about here you're whCwNHxIgzE-00343-00077520-00077726 all familiar with HTTP this is a really whCwNHxIgzE-00344-00077727-00078062 great protocol yeah you get a client you whCwNHxIgzE-00345-00078063-00078194 get a service you make a request the whCwNHxIgzE-00346-00078195-00078353 client or you make a request the service whCwNHxIgzE-00347-00078354-00078563 Jesus and the service gives you response whCwNHxIgzE-00348-00078564-00078668 and everything's great whCwNHxIgzE-00349-00078669-00078950 we didn't want to do this this is old whCwNHxIgzE-00350-00078951-00079166 and busted we're a start-up disrupting whCwNHxIgzE-00351-00079167-00079289 things that have no business being whCwNHxIgzE-00352-00079290-00079697 disrupted so so we had this vision like whCwNHxIgzE-00353-00079698-00079844 there are reasons for it but they're not whCwNHxIgzE-00354-00079845-00079972 amazing we had whCwNHxIgzE-00355-00079973-00080161 vision of the way services were going to whCwNHxIgzE-00356-00080162-00080374 work in a Toro five-year-plan type whCwNHxIgzE-00357-00080375-00080980 should type stuff and instead of using a whCwNHxIgzE-00358-00080981-00081190 decentralized synchronous protocol just whCwNHxIgzE-00359-00081191-00081375 what HTTP is we were going to use a whCwNHxIgzE-00360-00081376-00081669 centralized asynchronous protocol it's a whCwNHxIgzE-00361-00081670-00081799 couple reasons we thought this I won't whCwNHxIgzE-00362-00081800-00081928 go into them into the talk if you want whCwNHxIgzE-00363-00081929-00082050 to ask me about them later I'll be happy whCwNHxIgzE-00364-00082051-00082225 to tell you about them it will cost you whCwNHxIgzE-00365-00082226-00082596 a drink whCwNHxIgzE-00366-00082597-00083007 but we wrote a rack server that spoke whCwNHxIgzE-00367-00083008-00083311 AMQP so that we could use our current whCwNHxIgzE-00368-00083312-00083506 rails apps and just stick them on to whCwNHxIgzE-00369-00083507-00083706 this protocol we also wrote a gem called whCwNHxIgzE-00370-00083707-00084012 a mq party which as you can guess mimics whCwNHxIgzE-00371-00084013-00084205 the semantics and interface of HTT party whCwNHxIgzE-00372-00084206-00084588 and here's what it did and yeah so we whCwNHxIgzE-00373-00084589-00084829 got a client of service and because the whCwNHxIgzE-00374-00084830-00084940 client service can't talk to each other whCwNHxIgzE-00375-00084941-00085143 directly the service has a request whCwNHxIgzE-00376-00085144-00085309 channel that it's gonna read inbound whCwNHxIgzE-00377-00085310-00085431 messages from and because the service whCwNHxIgzE-00378-00085432-00085591 can't respond the client directly the whCwNHxIgzE-00379-00085592-00085774 client mr. have a paired response whCwNHxIgzE-00380-00085775-00085930 channel that the client is gonna read whCwNHxIgzE-00381-00085931-00086197 inbound messages from it's great so the whCwNHxIgzE-00382-00086198-00086449 client so a MQ party publishes a request whCwNHxIgzE-00383-00086450-00086625 message notice not sends a request whCwNHxIgzE-00384-00086626-00086832 publishes a request message they're whCwNHxIgzE-00385-00086833-00086994 dangerous territory right here to the whCwNHxIgzE-00386-00086995-00087142 service request channel which the whCwNHxIgzE-00387-00087143-00087397 service which our Iraq AMQP server is whCwNHxIgzE-00388-00087398-00087594 polling for and then it invokes your whCwNHxIgzE-00389-00087595-00087762 rails application gets the response whCwNHxIgzE-00390-00087763-00087940 publishes a response message to the whCwNHxIgzE-00391-00087941-00088113 paired client service response channel whCwNHxIgzE-00392-00088114-00088303 and the NA MQ party as soon as it whCwNHxIgzE-00393-00088304-00088453 published the request message spins up a whCwNHxIgzE-00394-00088454-00088615 polling loop on that pair Channel and whCwNHxIgzE-00395-00088616-00089055 and pull publish and gets your message whCwNHxIgzE-00396-00089056-00089256 so this is a really complicated whCwNHxIgzE-00397-00089257-00089412 technical diagram I'm gonna show you one whCwNHxIgzE-00398-00089413-00089542 that's much simpler and conveys the same whCwNHxIgzE-00399-00089543-00090351 information so even with all this whCwNHxIgzE-00400-00090352-00090405 nonsense whCwNHxIgzE-00401-00090406-00090630 we did it we like we made a service whCwNHxIgzE-00402-00090631-00090805 except not really because it's still whCwNHxIgzE-00403-00090806-00090963 used inventories database so you can't whCwNHxIgzE-00404-00090964-00091204 really call service and as previously whCwNHxIgzE-00405-00091205-00091338 mentioned those of you who are like that whCwNHxIgzE-00406-00091339-00091465 sounds like a background worker we're whCwNHxIgzE-00407-00091466-00091675 correct we put a lot of dumb whCwNHxIgzE-00408-00091676-00092148 infrastructure have a background worker whCwNHxIgzE-00409-00092149-00092404 so the thing we learned is that adding whCwNHxIgzE-00410-00092405-00092572 is easier than extracting and it would whCwNHxIgzE-00411-00092573-00092698 have been even easier if we didn't do whCwNHxIgzE-00412-00092699-00093148 all that nonsense if you're going to do whCwNHxIgzE-00413-00093149-00093346 like I already said that the data share whCwNHxIgzE-00414-00093347-00093484 is really hard in fact it's one of the whCwNHxIgzE-00415-00093485-00093607 two hardest problems you're going to whCwNHxIgzE-00416-00093608-00093823 encounter when doing service ecosystem whCwNHxIgzE-00417-00093824-00093988 work we'll come to the the second whCwNHxIgzE-00418-00093989-00094321 artists problem later in the talk so for whCwNHxIgzE-00419-00094322-00094492 your first service you should probably whCwNHxIgzE-00420-00094493-00094633 do something that involves as little whCwNHxIgzE-00421-00094634-00094774 data extraction as possible whCwNHxIgzE-00422-00094775-00094909 you should add that you should add whCwNHxIgzE-00423-00094910-00095068 functionality to your to your monolith whCwNHxIgzE-00424-00095069-00095281 in the form of a service instead of whCwNHxIgzE-00425-00095282-00095497 extracting data or instead of extracting whCwNHxIgzE-00426-00095498-00095893 functionality our problem was that it whCwNHxIgzE-00427-00095894-00096010 was so small that no one cared very much whCwNHxIgzE-00428-00096011-00096244 or even knew about it I had to be whCwNHxIgzE-00429-00096245-00096376 reminded like three weeks ago that this whCwNHxIgzE-00430-00096377-00096661 was a thing we ever did actually and so whCwNHxIgzE-00431-00096662-00096990 yeah and the problem with this is that whCwNHxIgzE-00432-00096991-00097240 if you are doing if you are thinking whCwNHxIgzE-00433-00097241-00097384 about having a service ecosystem or whCwNHxIgzE-00434-00097385-00097585 micro services as they're sometimes whCwNHxIgzE-00435-00097586-00097789 called not sometimes they're mostly whCwNHxIgzE-00436-00097790-00097870 called that they're only sometimes whCwNHxIgzE-00437-00097871-00098191 called services that is an inherently whCwNHxIgzE-00438-00098192-00098416 political project you are reshaping the whCwNHxIgzE-00439-00098417-00098545 way engineering will be done at your whCwNHxIgzE-00440-00098546-00098848 organization and therefore you have to whCwNHxIgzE-00441-00098849-00099031 understand and and and deal with whCwNHxIgzE-00442-00099032-00099190 political realities and one of them is whCwNHxIgzE-00443-00099191-00099532 this concept of a win and you can have whCwNHxIgzE-00444-00099533-00099730 an engineering success but if it's not a whCwNHxIgzE-00445-00099731-00099916 win because if it doesn't because it whCwNHxIgzE-00446-00099917-00100036 doesn't make someone's life better and whCwNHxIgzE-00447-00100037-00100261 it's not a visible win you're probably whCwNHxIgzE-00448-00100262-00100435 not gonna have enough political capital whCwNHxIgzE-00449-00100436-00100591 to when the next stuff when you say I whCwNHxIgzE-00450-00100592-00100726 want to do the next one wasn't the first whCwNHxIgzE-00451-00100727-00100912 one so great what first one we don't whCwNHxIgzE-00452-00100913-00101098 remember Robert seeing this you're whCwNHxIgzE-00453-00101099-00101173 probably not going to be allowed to whCwNHxIgzE-00454-00101174-00101560 continue so for for if you for people's whCwNHxIgzE-00455-00101561-00101659 first service I would definitely whCwNHxIgzE-00456-00101660-00101824 recommend that you start with something whCwNHxIgzE-00457-00101825-00102067 something that will have impact that whCwNHxIgzE-00458-00102068-00102172 will that will make people's lives whCwNHxIgzE-00459-00102173-00102370 better that like I don't know if the whCwNHxIgzE-00460-00102371-00102574 concept of like brand is is is super whCwNHxIgzE-00461-00102575-00102778 applicable but but something with with whCwNHxIgzE-00462-00102779-00103105 impact that people will notice and for whCwNHxIgzE-00463-00103106-00103303 just do the simplest thing and possibly whCwNHxIgzE-00464-00103304-00103498 work if you if you have service to whCwNHxIgzE-00465-00103499-00103777 service communication just use HTTP HTTP whCwNHxIgzE-00466-00103778-00104026 is the best HDTV that I know of I would whCwNHxIgzE-00467-00104027-00104292 not recommend other non HTTP HDTV whCwNHxIgzE-00468-00104293-00104578 replacements you want to be like Drake whCwNHxIgzE-00469-00104579-00104736 in your approach to software whCwNHxIgzE-00470-00104738-00104929 architecture you want to shun and be whCwNHxIgzE-00471-00104930-00105139 afraid of reproducing synchronous whCwNHxIgzE-00472-00105140-00105285 protocols with deep with asynchronous whCwNHxIgzE-00473-00105286-00105445 ones and you want to think that just whCwNHxIgzE-00474-00105446-00105574 using the synchronous protocol is the whCwNHxIgzE-00475-00105575-00105834 best thing you could do men's very very whCwNHxIgzE-00476-00105835-00106021 wise about software architecture I think whCwNHxIgzE-00477-00106022-00106233 it's the jacket actually really want whCwNHxIgzE-00478-00106234-00106601 that jacket so there were whCwNHxIgzE-00479-00106602-00106733 project there were service projects that whCwNHxIgzE-00480-00106733-00106997 we did after that but or there was one whCwNHxIgzE-00481-00106998-00107110 service project that we did after that whCwNHxIgzE-00482-00107111-00107383 but it was aborted because a wild whCwNHxIgzE-00483-00107384-00107570 deadline appeared and we were able to whCwNHxIgzE-00484-00107571-00107876 make it a service but the next actual whCwNHxIgzE-00485-00107877-00108034 service project that we could do was whCwNHxIgzE-00486-00108035-00108320 bulk sales pricing in 2015 so we've whCwNHxIgzE-00487-00108321-00108586 always done bulk sales at up Toro whCwNHxIgzE-00488-00108588-00108689 but it's always been a two to three whCwNHxIgzE-00489-00108690-00108800 person team who works in the warehouse whCwNHxIgzE-00490-00108801-00108950 and is aware of fluctuations in our whCwNHxIgzE-00491-00108951-00109111 inventory and where's the the landscape whCwNHxIgzE-00492-00109113-00109244 for buyers and sellers of this stuff and whCwNHxIgzE-00493-00109245-00109397 they basically call people up and say whCwNHxIgzE-00494-00109398-00109619 hey so I got a thousand laptops of whCwNHxIgzE-00495-00109620-00109781 varying qualities what do you give me whCwNHxIgzE-00496-00109782-00110048 for them and this is really profitable whCwNHxIgzE-00497-00110049-00110243 for us and and also it's very much in whCwNHxIgzE-00498-00110244-00110426 demand that would call us back like you whCwNHxIgzE-00499-00110427-00110584 know half a year later and be like do whCwNHxIgzE-00500-00110585-00110732 you have any more laptops I'm making whCwNHxIgzE-00501-00110733-00110864 this sound much senior than it is like whCwNHxIgzE-00502-00110865-00111131 litter zero percent of our inventory has whCwNHxIgzE-00503-00111132-00111248 ever been sourced off the back of a whCwNHxIgzE-00504-00111249-00111890 truck I'm serious it hasn't so in late whCwNHxIgzE-00505-00111891-00112097 2015 we launched bulk comm there's the whCwNHxIgzE-00506-00112098-00112481 queues again I don't get it this is what whCwNHxIgzE-00507-00112482-00112580 at least makes sense I don't know what whCwNHxIgzE-00508-00112581-00112721 blanka's bulk is obviously like yeah whCwNHxIgzE-00509-00112722-00112924 book sales good whCwNHxIgzE-00510-00112925-00113255 maybe next maybe next product we'll have whCwNHxIgzE-00511-00113256-00113408 a word that describes the thing and also whCwNHxIgzE-00512-00113408-00113910 is spelled correctly who could tell so whCwNHxIgzE-00513-00113911-00114149 before when we did when it was just a whCwNHxIgzE-00514-00114150-00114578 human's doing the pricing or before was whCwNHxIgzE-00515-00114579-00114689 just humans doing the pricing and that whCwNHxIgzE-00516-00114690-00114893 doesn't scale up to the to the scale of whCwNHxIgzE-00517-00114894-00115025 a marketplace we could add more humans whCwNHxIgzE-00518-00115026-00115250 but the humans that we had don't don't whCwNHxIgzE-00519-00115251-00115745 scale so it was my job to work with our whCwNHxIgzE-00520-00115746-00115895 data science team they had a pricing whCwNHxIgzE-00521-00115896-00116078 model that they that they were using whCwNHxIgzE-00522-00116079-00116369 based on historical bulks bulk pricing whCwNHxIgzE-00523-00116370-00116576 data and it's my job to make that whCwNHxIgzE-00524-00116577-00116833 accessible to our Ruby code and so my my whCwNHxIgzE-00525-00116834-00116983 lead and I got to talking and we were whCwNHxIgzE-00526-00116984-00117109 like do we need this data in the whCwNHxIgzE-00527-00117110-00117301 monolith and the answer was no we didn't whCwNHxIgzE-00528-00117302-00117755 and so we wanted that was a perfect whCwNHxIgzE-00529-00117756-00117992 opportunity for another service the whCwNHxIgzE-00530-00117993-00118258 problem was when we had done off and whCwNHxIgzE-00531-00118259-00118421 when we had done photos processing our whCwNHxIgzE-00532-00118422-00118583 infrastructure team yes we have an whCwNHxIgzE-00533-00118583-00118856 infrastructure team had done the whCwNHxIgzE-00534-00118857-00119066 provisioning and configuration and setup whCwNHxIgzE-00535-00119067-00119201 and creating backups and login to whCwNHxIgzE-00536-00119202-00119432 metrics and all that stuff for a rabbit whCwNHxIgzE-00537-00119433-00119697 for our whCwNHxIgzE-00538-00119698-00120104 for RJ Kia's rack server rack server for whCwNHxIgzE-00539-00120105-00120393 the workers for for everything and they whCwNHxIgzE-00540-00120394-00120543 were doing and they were busy doing bulk whCwNHxIgzE-00541-00120544-00120693 comm because that was client that was whCwNHxIgzE-00542-00120694-00120807 public facing and that's what they whCwNHxIgzE-00543-00120808-00121163 should be doing so I said I can do it whCwNHxIgzE-00544-00121164-00121565 and you know I'd been talking to them a whCwNHxIgzE-00545-00121566-00121811 little bit and they didn't have like a whCwNHxIgzE-00546-00121813-00121956 checklist but the standard procedure was whCwNHxIgzE-00547-00121957-00122153 we use chef cookbook we use cookbooks whCwNHxIgzE-00548-00122154-00122346 for configuration we use terraform for whCwNHxIgzE-00549-00122347-00122516 provisioning we use you know data bags whCwNHxIgzE-00550-00122517-00122933 for for for secrets and that seemed to whCwNHxIgzE-00551-00122934-00123150 me like yeah it's Ruby files in JSON how whCwNHxIgzE-00552-00123151-00123639 hard can it be so yeah it took me seven whCwNHxIgzE-00553-00123640-00123783 we had we had a deadline of nine weeks whCwNHxIgzE-00554-00123783-00124014 we had we had to be ready for regression whCwNHxIgzE-00555-00124015-00124401 testing for Bolcom and we we made it I whCwNHxIgzE-00556-00124402-00124572 took seven days to write the service a whCwNHxIgzE-00557-00124573-00124713 really easy service there was a redesign whCwNHxIgzE-00558-00124714-00124821 in the middle I could've done in three whCwNHxIgzE-00559-00124822-00125100 if I wasn't and it took me seven weeks whCwNHxIgzE-00560-00125101-00125340 to learn a thimble size amount of each whCwNHxIgzE-00561-00125341-00125636 of those and if you will notice the last whCwNHxIgzE-00562-00125638-00125820 thing has an ampersand on it indicating whCwNHxIgzE-00563-00125821-00126369 that this goes off the page it does the whCwNHxIgzE-00564-00126370-00126465 problem with this is one of the whCwNHxIgzE-00565-00126466-00126665 motivating factors for the overall whCwNHxIgzE-00566-00126666-00127002 service project of Torro is that we want whCwNHxIgzE-00567-00127003-00127290 the we want the time between or we want whCwNHxIgzE-00568-00127291-00127533 we want to go from a developer going whCwNHxIgzE-00569-00127533-00127752 that piece of functionality doesn't go whCwNHxIgzE-00570-00127753-00127953 there to having a deployable prototype whCwNHxIgzE-00571-00127954-00128190 in as little time as possible and seven whCwNHxIgzE-00572-00128191-00128394 weeks is no one's idea of as little time whCwNHxIgzE-00573-00128395-00128753 as possible and there were and the whCwNHxIgzE-00574-00128754-00128838 reason for that was there were too many whCwNHxIgzE-00575-00128839-00129177 things to learn however we also had the whCwNHxIgzE-00576-00129178-00129393 solution at the same time the reason it whCwNHxIgzE-00577-00129394-00129546 took me seven weeks to learn all these whCwNHxIgzE-00578-00129547-00129873 things and not like two years is that we whCwNHxIgzE-00579-00129874-00130071 had an infrastructure team and they had whCwNHxIgzE-00580-00130072-00130302 already figured out patterns for all whCwNHxIgzE-00581-00130303-00130440 these stuff I didn't have to look at all whCwNHxIgzE-00582-00130441-00130638 that the various common logging formats whCwNHxIgzE-00583-00130639-00130790 and figure out which one was that was it whCwNHxIgzE-00584-00130791-00130995 was a fit for us they had already done whCwNHxIgzE-00585-00130996-00131184 that we use log stash I didn't have to whCwNHxIgzE-00586-00131185-00131325 research all the popular health check whCwNHxIgzE-00587-00131326-00131441 frameworks and figure out which one was whCwNHxIgzE-00588-00131442-00131634 gonna be the best fit for us they had whCwNHxIgzE-00589-00131635-00131838 already done that we used Nagios and we whCwNHxIgzE-00590-00131839-00131994 as rails developers understand that whCwNHxIgzE-00591-00131995-00132191 these kinds of conventions are one of whCwNHxIgzE-00592-00132192-00132365 most empowering things that you can have whCwNHxIgzE-00593-00132366-00132685 like this is what makes rails rails whCwNHxIgzE-00594-00132686-00132928 the other thing that we noticed this is whCwNHxIgzE-00595-00132929-00133030 gonna sound a little patronizing at whCwNHxIgzE-00596-00133031-00133231 first and it's not meant that way is whCwNHxIgzE-00597-00133232-00133420 that I was able to operate my whCwNHxIgzE-00598-00133421-00133633 application like previously a way to rot whCwNHxIgzE-00599-00133634-00133981 we had relied on our infrastructure team whCwNHxIgzE-00600-00133982-00134335 for not not like code level not not whCwNHxIgzE-00601-00134336-00134617 business logic bugs but for for database whCwNHxIgzE-00602-00134618-00134836 performance stuff for for tuning for whCwNHxIgzE-00603-00134837-00135010 that kind of thing and they were busy whCwNHxIgzE-00604-00135011-00135190 doing bulk comm and there were there whCwNHxIgzE-00605-00135191-00135295 were a couple times where I was actually whCwNHxIgzE-00606-00135296-00135562 able to respond to incidents in whCwNHxIgzE-00607-00135563-00135802 production using their pattern which is whCwNHxIgzE-00608-00135803-00135970 running it myself which was very whCwNHxIgzE-00609-00135971-00136138 empowering and we can'twe with the whCwNHxIgzE-00610-00136139-00136351 conclusion that if we're gonna have more whCwNHxIgzE-00611-00136352-00136771 services developers should operate the whCwNHxIgzE-00612-00136772-00136885 applications that apply they should be whCwNHxIgzE-00613-00136886-00137038 responsible for the production behavior whCwNHxIgzE-00614-00137039-00137209 of the code they put into production and whCwNHxIgzE-00615-00137210-00137524 the reasons for that are are twofold one whCwNHxIgzE-00616-00137525-00137791 if you if you have an infrastructure whCwNHxIgzE-00617-00137792-00137923 team if you don't have an infrastructure whCwNHxIgzE-00618-00137924-00138022 team there's only one reason but if you whCwNHxIgzE-00619-00138023-00138292 do have an infrastructure team they're whCwNHxIgzE-00620-00138293-00138433 already operating your print your whCwNHxIgzE-00621-00138434-00138589 infrastructure like whether it's whCwNHxIgzE-00622-00138590-00138871 databases or caches or Kafka or rabbit whCwNHxIgzE-00623-00138872-00139090 or whatever they're already doing their whCwNHxIgzE-00624-00139091-00139384 job it's it's it's it's it's kind of whCwNHxIgzE-00625-00139385-00139582 it's not really okay to ask them to whCwNHxIgzE-00626-00139583-00139786 operate to also operate all the services whCwNHxIgzE-00627-00139787-00140116 you're about to start making and the whCwNHxIgzE-00628-00140117-00140314 second thing and this applies if you whCwNHxIgzE-00629-00140315-00140437 don't have an infrastructure team is whCwNHxIgzE-00630-00140438-00140971 that are all role as engineers is to whCwNHxIgzE-00631-00140972-00141181 deliver value to users through products whCwNHxIgzE-00632-00141182-00141559 that's the whole job and if that's the whCwNHxIgzE-00633-00141560-00141922 case and I'm arguing that it is then our whCwNHxIgzE-00634-00141923-00142207 job can't stop at merging to master and whCwNHxIgzE-00635-00142208-00142474 deploying all right it has to extend whCwNHxIgzE-00636-00142475-00142636 beyond that into an understanding of how whCwNHxIgzE-00637-00142637-00142798 our systems operate in production how whCwNHxIgzE-00638-00142799-00143145 our users encounter the code we deploy whCwNHxIgzE-00639-00143146-00143401 and if you're going to do that you whCwNHxIgzE-00640-00143402-00143524 should have an answer to all of these whCwNHxIgzE-00641-00143525-00143923 questions at your organization again whCwNHxIgzE-00642-00143924-00144103 having these conventions are super whCwNHxIgzE-00643-00144104-00144310 powerful whether you're whether you're whCwNHxIgzE-00644-00144311-00144739 on a 24/7 on-call rotation and you get whCwNHxIgzE-00645-00144740-00145105 the page at 4 a.m. what or you get the whCwNHxIgzE-00646-00145106-00145288 page at 4 p.m. and you're not on an whCwNHxIgzE-00647-00145289-00145477 on-call rotation you're just finished whCwNHxIgzE-00648-00145478-00145603 for the day and going to do some PR whCwNHxIgzE-00649-00145604-00145728 review and then head home whCwNHxIgzE-00650-00145729-00145866 you don't you don't want to get a page whCwNHxIgzE-00651-00145867-00146154 either those times and you and when you whCwNHxIgzE-00652-00146155-00146304 do get that you don't want to have to whCwNHxIgzE-00653-00146305-00146529 figure out where logs are you don't want whCwNHxIgzE-00654-00146530-00146700 to have to ask a colleague where are the whCwNHxIgzE-00655-00146701-00146850 dashboards for this again especially if whCwNHxIgzE-00656-00146851-00147261 it's 4 a.m. you just want to know so the whCwNHxIgzE-00657-00147262-00147399 way that our infrastructure team had whCwNHxIgzE-00658-00147400-00147516 already figured this out herder who whCwNHxIgzE-00659-00147517-00147697 provided convention had already provided whCwNHxIgzE-00660-00147698-00148038 production conventions for us you'll whCwNHxIgzE-00661-00148039-00148263 want to do for your organization's and whCwNHxIgzE-00662-00148264-00148425 again as rails developers we know the whCwNHxIgzE-00663-00148426-00148554 best thing you can do for a product for whCwNHxIgzE-00664-00148555-00148920 a convention is to wrap a tool around it whCwNHxIgzE-00665-00148921-00149122 you want you want to make it so that whCwNHxIgzE-00666-00149123-00149296 people can't forget to set up logging whCwNHxIgzE-00667-00149297-00149466 the right way or so that they can't mess whCwNHxIgzE-00668-00149467-00149712 up the way metrics are collected and whCwNHxIgzE-00669-00149713-00149910 whether that's a project skeleton repo whCwNHxIgzE-00670-00149911-00150087 that you clone and change all the names whCwNHxIgzE-00671-00150088-00150319 on or a rails application template that whCwNHxIgzE-00672-00150320-00150634 um that adds like 10 more initializers whCwNHxIgzE-00673-00150635-00150765 that set up logging and service whCwNHxIgzE-00674-00150766-00151002 discovery sorry and secrets the way your whCwNHxIgzE-00675-00151003-00151215 organization handles them or you do what whCwNHxIgzE-00676-00151216-00151266 we do whCwNHxIgzE-00677-00151267-00151526 and write a custom build and deploy tool whCwNHxIgzE-00678-00151527-00151906 that allows you to write a file and whCwNHxIgzE-00679-00151907-00152172 press well write and type command and whCwNHxIgzE-00680-00152173-00152376 have containers deployed into production whCwNHxIgzE-00681-00152377-00152691 in under two hours you can do that I whCwNHxIgzE-00682-00152692-00152845 don't recommend doing that we have our whCwNHxIgzE-00683-00152846-00152961 own reasons for doing that one of them whCwNHxIgzE-00684-00152962-00153111 is that we deploy on a Solaris if you're whCwNHxIgzE-00685-00153112-00153300 if you don't apply Nussle artists don't whCwNHxIgzE-00686-00153301-00153643 do this the deployed part is actually whCwNHxIgzE-00687-00153644-00153895 easy deploy it yeah deploy is whCwNHxIgzE-00688-00153896-00154191 commoditized at this point the build whCwNHxIgzE-00689-00154192-00154473 aspect what how to get the not the whCwNHxIgzE-00690-00154474-00154587 secret sauce but the production whCwNHxIgzE-00691-00154588-00154725 conventions that your organization will whCwNHxIgzE-00692-00154726-00154860 use how you do logging how you do all whCwNHxIgzE-00693-00154861-00155071 these things and how to get them into whCwNHxIgzE-00694-00155072-00155274 your application that's not commoditized whCwNHxIgzE-00695-00155275-00155475 it probably never will be because you whCwNHxIgzE-00696-00155476-00155790 like the the conventions that you have whCwNHxIgzE-00697-00155791-00155947 are probably gonna be shared by such a whCwNHxIgzE-00698-00155948-00156162 small number of other organizations that whCwNHxIgzE-00699-00156163-00156418 there that you can't get an ecosystem or whCwNHxIgzE-00700-00156419-00156588 a community around that who knows maybe whCwNHxIgzE-00701-00156589-00156733 rails 7 will just have all of those whCwNHxIgzE-00702-00156734-00157158 things in it that would be wonderful so whCwNHxIgzE-00703-00157159-00157413 what what can you do now what can you whCwNHxIgzE-00704-00157414-00157725 what can you learn from from my pain and whCwNHxIgzE-00705-00157726-00157977 and our pain actually it's not all mine whCwNHxIgzE-00706-00157978-00158293 it's not just mine and take back to tee whCwNHxIgzE-00707-00158294-00158439 organizations whether they're whether whCwNHxIgzE-00708-00158440-00158620 they're don't have any services or whCwNHxIgzE-00709-00158621-00158835 yearning for long for the days of a whCwNHxIgzE-00710-00158836-00158968 monolith when everything was in the same whCwNHxIgzE-00711-00158969-00159072 place whCwNHxIgzE-00712-00159073-00159428 well if you don't have any services yet whCwNHxIgzE-00713-00159429-00159648 number one thing I recommend is get rid whCwNHxIgzE-00714-00159649-00159843 of your active record callbacks for all whCwNHxIgzE-00715-00159844-00159966 for all the reasons I mentioned earlier whCwNHxIgzE-00716-00159967-00160113 they make it harder to pull data out of whCwNHxIgzE-00717-00160114-00160338 your monolith they hide code from you whCwNHxIgzE-00718-00160339-00160560 they create semantic distinctions whCwNHxIgzE-00719-00160561-00160764 between bits of persistence where there whCwNHxIgzE-00720-00160765-00161117 aren't any and they're just kind of bad whCwNHxIgzE-00721-00161118-00161328 that said you will have to roll your own whCwNHxIgzE-00722-00161329-00161478 transaction management which isn't hard whCwNHxIgzE-00723-00161479-00161670 used to active record transaction based whCwNHxIgzE-00724-00161671-00161880 or active record base transaction due whCwNHxIgzE-00725-00161881-00162159 and you've got a transaction and it will whCwNHxIgzE-00726-00162160-00162423 behoove you to know about transactions whCwNHxIgzE-00727-00162424-00162570 and how to and how to wield them and whCwNHxIgzE-00728-00162571-00162780 when it's okay to loosen your whCwNHxIgzE-00729-00162781-00162915 consistency requirements to get more whCwNHxIgzE-00730-00162916-00163305 performance if you're if you're doing if whCwNHxIgzE-00731-00163306-00163401 you're just starting your first service whCwNHxIgzE-00732-00163402-00163746 don't start by X star twith what we did whCwNHxIgzE-00733-00163747-00163902 with off and have and have to pull whCwNHxIgzE-00734-00163903-00164193 models out of your monolith as I whCwNHxIgzE-00735-00164194-00164286 mentioned the two hardest problems whCwNHxIgzE-00736-00164287-00164406 you'll come across are that shared whCwNHxIgzE-00737-00164407-00164580 models are really hard and figuring out whCwNHxIgzE-00738-00164581-00164724 conventions for production isn't going whCwNHxIgzE-00739-00164725-00164814 to be hard but it's going to be whCwNHxIgzE-00740-00164815-00165156 complicated and those are both hard whCwNHxIgzE-00741-00165157-00165324 problems and I recommend only having to whCwNHxIgzE-00742-00165325-00165621 do one of them at a time and to do that whCwNHxIgzE-00743-00165622-00165830 you have to start with something that's whCwNHxIgzE-00744-00165831-00166077 that adds functionality as opposed to whCwNHxIgzE-00745-00166078-00166347 extracts it that said take something whCwNHxIgzE-00746-00166348-00166524 that people will notice this is a whCwNHxIgzE-00747-00166525-00166770 political project again and so if you whCwNHxIgzE-00748-00166771-00167061 want to continue doing it you should whCwNHxIgzE-00749-00167062-00167196 probably pick something that people whCwNHxIgzE-00750-00167197-00167385 notice and that you will be able to get whCwNHxIgzE-00751-00167386-00167751 momentum behind your organization use whCwNHxIgzE-00752-00167752-00168000 boring technology don't don't be like whCwNHxIgzE-00753-00168001-00168393 Drake don't don't use don't use don't whCwNHxIgzE-00754-00168394-00168618 recreate synchronous protocols with whCwNHxIgzE-00755-00168619-00168942 asynchronous ones use things that you whCwNHxIgzE-00756-00168943-00169221 can that that you can get people to whCwNHxIgzE-00757-00169222-00169416 support or that you can actually Google whCwNHxIgzE-00758-00169417-00169881 for answers on the internet once you whCwNHxIgzE-00759-00169882-00170091 have more than one service or once whCwNHxIgzE-00760-00170092-00170250 you're past your first service and you whCwNHxIgzE-00761-00170251-00170391 maybe want to start extracting some data whCwNHxIgzE-00762-00170392-00170661 out of your monolith don't don't try to whCwNHxIgzE-00763-00170662-00170781 share that data don't try to synchronize whCwNHxIgzE-00764-00170782-00171099 the data broadcast pick a pick a service whCwNHxIgzE-00765-00171100-00171282 that makes sense to be the origin whCwNHxIgzE-00766-00171283-00171444 service for that model and everything whCwNHxIgzE-00767-00171445-00171627 else is downstream and only gets to whCwNHxIgzE-00768-00171628-00171891 create new virtue local records of that whCwNHxIgzE-00769-00171892-00172185 model when the origin service says they whCwNHxIgzE-00770-00172186-00172395 can whCwNHxIgzE-00771-00172396-00172788 and you will you you should operate what whCwNHxIgzE-00772-00172789-00172899 you deploy developers should be whCwNHxIgzE-00773-00172900-00173049 responsible for the production behavior whCwNHxIgzE-00774-00173050-00173344 of code they put into production and to whCwNHxIgzE-00775-00173345-00173572 do that you it's that's going to be lots whCwNHxIgzE-00776-00173573-00173700 easier if you have conventions for whCwNHxIgzE-00777-00173701-00173881 production figure out what what makes whCwNHxIgzE-00778-00173882-00174007 sense for your organization in terms of whCwNHxIgzE-00779-00174008-00174220 how to all the tools you need to respond whCwNHxIgzE-00780-00174221-00174591 to to production incidents and then make whCwNHxIgzE-00781-00174592-00174760 write a tool write a build tool that whCwNHxIgzE-00782-00174761-00174951 enforces doing so so that you don't have whCwNHxIgzE-00783-00174952-00175246 to they say you can't forget or can't whCwNHxIgzE-00784-00175247-00175672 mess up configuring these things you've whCwNHxIgzE-00785-00175673-00175795 been you've been a great audience whCwNHxIgzE-00786-00175796-00175960 I really hope you've gotten something whCwNHxIgzE-00787-00175961-00176166 out of out of me basically going you see whCwNHxIgzE-00788-00176167-00176419 the scar well I hear how I got it for whCwNHxIgzE-00789-00176420-00176853 for as long as I have do we can we do whCwNHxIgzE-00790-00176854-00177099 questions or are we just not doing what whCwNHxIgzE-00791-00177100-00177486 okay we apparently can do questions but whCwNHxIgzE-00792-00177487-00177687 if you have any other questions of me whCwNHxIgzE-00793-00177688-00177931 and or comments or observations I will whCwNHxIgzE-00794-00177932-00178188 be happy to take questions the whole eye whCwNHxIgzE-00795-00178189-00178512 track I am unfortunately not a giant but whCwNHxIgzE-00796-00178513-00178849 I do have this ponytail so if that helps whCwNHxIgzE-00797-00178850-00179325 you locate me then I don't know anyway 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clear and now are whQ8ChYGWeA-00039-00010767-00010826 you ready whQ8ChYGWeA-00040-00010827-00011048 Kenya ministers in charge of enhanced whQ8ChYGWeA-00041-00011049-00011321 economy Henri voltage and Aden Abdullah whQ8ChYGWeA-00042-00011322-00011699 Mohammed in 2018 performed drama wait whQ8ChYGWeA-00043-00011700-00011767 for it whQ8ChYGWeA-00044-00011768-00012046 mediocre you can best visualize it by whQ8ChYGWeA-00045-00012047-00012310 seeing how high this red arrow is and whQ8ChYGWeA-00046-00012311-00012739 now few numbers their score was 435 and whQ8ChYGWeA-00047-00012740-00012986 they ranked 111th and whQ8ChYGWeA-00048-00012987-00013269 all economy-related ministers Kenya was whQ8ChYGWeA-00049-00013269-00013700 ranked 153rd in 2017 which is very well whQ8ChYGWeA-00050-00013701-00014081 and in 2018 they kept their 150 third whQ8ChYGWeA-00051-00014082-00014333 place so as you can see it's mediocre whQ8ChYGWeA-00052-00014334-00014613 job if you not want to see how leader of 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sit in my zone that was wnyS4izgiwo-00072-00024201-00024350 that was the good thing about the first wnyS4izgiwo-00073-00024351-00024566 day I just stick to what I know stay in wnyS4izgiwo-00074-00024567-00024944 my spot and what good waves the waves wnyS4izgiwo-00075-00024945-00026936 that each tear bow and made my jaw drop wnyS4izgiwo-00076-00026937-00027337 I guess there is an advantage sometimes wnyS4izgiwo-00077-00027338-00027773 to having week to make sections or to wnyS4izgiwo-00078-00027774-00028052 power two waves but the disadvantage is wnyS4izgiwo-00079-00028052-00028483 when you got a swing you got a swim wnyS4izgiwo-00080-00028484-00028702 this year was one of the worst years I wnyS4izgiwo-00081-00028703-00029020 ever seen it Beauty and the Beast the wnyS4izgiwo-00082-00029022-00029242 current was the beasts and the waves wnyS4izgiwo-00083-00029243-00029536 but that was one of the artists wnyS4izgiwo-00084-00029537-00030031 compasses I ever ever entered in my 37 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never easy it's never easy calling wnyS4izgiwo-00113-00038593-00038837 and having run contests it's never easy wnyS4izgiwo-00114-00038838-00039054 because you know the waves and you want wnyS4izgiwo-00115-00039055-00039333 everything to work out but the waves is wnyS4izgiwo-00116-00039334-00039582 epic on the first day and then still wnyS4izgiwo-00117-00039583-00039780 epic on the second day just very wnyS4izgiwo-00118-00039781-00040167 challenging and challenging so for those wnyS4izgiwo-00119-00040168-00041278 who did well hats off to you guys man wnyS4izgiwo-00120-00041279-00041485 you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00000-00000071-00000719 dr sheldon x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00001-00000720-00000919 thank you friends are we ready now we x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00002-00000919-00001231 are now ready to start proceedings x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00003-00001232-00001431 for our webinar i want to welcome x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00004-00001432-00001679 everyone warmly x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00005-00001680-00001982 especially our three speakers x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00006-00001984-00002263 monica raghavan dr karen baker and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00007-00002264-00002510 senior number a hearty welcome also to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00008-00002511-00002750 all our viewers it's really wonderful to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00009-00002751-00002926 have you here today x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00010-00002927-00003158 today we discuss a very important topic x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00011-00003159-00003390 in the international idea democratic x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00012-00003392-00003670 development in melanesia webinar series x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00013-00003671-00003822 number six x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00014-00003823-00004015 and that is the topic we are discussing x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00015-00004015-00004135 today is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00016-00004136-00004422 challenges faced by women in the path of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00017-00004423-00004567 politics x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00018-00004568-00004806 this is a really pertinent issue x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00019-00004807-00005086 especially with the looming elections in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00020-00005087-00005375 both fiji and png the two largest x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00021-00005376-00005679 melanesian countries x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00022-00005680-00005918 we are fortunate to have three highly x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00023-00005919-00006191 qualified speakers to interrogate the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00024-00006192-00006454 problem today x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00025-00006455-00006767 so each speaker has 10 minutes maximum x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00026-00006768-00007023 followed by 40 minutes of interactive x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00027-00007023-00007151 discussions x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00028-00007152-00007367 and i encourage our audience to send x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00029-00007368-00007783 their questions and also their comments x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00030-00007784-00008087 before we start proper it is my pleasure x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00031-00008088-00008335 to invite mr adi ahman x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00032-00008336-00008567 ideas asia pacific senior manager x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00033-00008568-00008687 programs x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00034-00008688-00009246 based in canberra to say a few words x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00035-00009247-00009414 thank you very much dr shahlen for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00036-00009415-00009614 moderating today x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00037-00009615-00009814 bulavinaka everyone thank you for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00038-00009815-00010087 joining us i'd like to first x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00039-00010088-00010271 like to acknowledge x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00040-00010272-00010438 the nganual people traditional x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00041-00010439-00010695 custodians of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00042-00010696-00010942 the place i work and live and i perish x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00043-00010943-00011159 my respects to their x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00044-00011160-00011263 elders x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00045-00011264-00011574 past and present x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00046-00011575-00012095 this webinar is a prelude to the annual x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00047-00012096-00012263 forum x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00048-00012264-00012510 on women in politics that international x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00049-00012511-00012774 idea have had the pleasure x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00050-00012775-00012846 in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00051-00012847-00013007 organizing x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00052-00013008-00013294 in suva x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00053-00013295-00013486 since 2019 x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00054-00013487-00013575 with x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00055-00013576-00013711 its partners x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00056-00013712-00013822 and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00057-00013823-00014207 it started with um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00058-00014208-00014438 it being under the c3 fiji project which x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00059-00014440-00014694 was uh funded by the european union x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00060-00014695-00014863 and um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00061-00014863-00015047 next month um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00062-00015047-00015230 towards the end of october x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00063-00015231-00015591 we would like to organize another one x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00064-00015591-00015991 with the support of the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00065-00015991-00016222 united kingdom x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00066-00016223-00016350 and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00067-00016351-00016527 therefore this x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00068-00016528-00016903 webinar is timely to serve as x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00069-00016904-00017103 as a preview x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00070-00017104-00017375 and in preparation for that uh annual x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00071-00017376-00017471 forum x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00072-00017472-00017558 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00073-00017559-00017814 we would like to be informed by x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00074-00017815-00018014 the speakers uh thank you distinguished x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00075-00018015-00018119 speakers x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00076-00018120-00018343 uh for being here with us today and also x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00077-00018344-00018471 to from x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00078-00018472-00018750 you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00079-00018751-00018943 distinguished participants x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00080-00018944-00019422 um in terms of what x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00081-00019423-00019711 we need to raise x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00082-00019712-00019894 uh during the forum x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00083-00019895-00020222 um and therefore we look forward to uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00084-00020223-00020335 to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00085-00020336-00020599 the discussion we have today x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00086-00020600-00020694 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00087-00020695-00020894 which will hopefully x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00088-00020895-00021103 help x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00089-00021104-00021278 aspiring women x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00090-00021279-00021414 who would like to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00091-00021415-00021630 participate in the elections x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00092-00021631-00021975 uh both in fiji and also by extension x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00093-00021976-00022255 in png next year x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00094-00022256-00022375 so x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00095-00022376-00022583 with that i i hope you have a good x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00096-00022584-00022814 discussion today and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00097-00022815-00023214 back to you dr salindra x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00098-00023215-00023503 thank you ali for your welcoming remarks x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00099-00023504-00023694 we are now ready to welcome our first x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00100-00023695-00023967 speaker monica raghwan x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00101-00023968-00024214 let me give you a brief background on x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00102-00024215-00024535 monika she's the former vice president x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00103-00024536-00024735 and the current acting president of the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00104-00024736-00024958 fiji labor party x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00105-00024959-00025183 monika izek suva grammar with a bachelor x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00106-00025184-00025455 of science from madras university x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00107-00025456-00025711 besides a postgraduate diploma in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00108-00025712-00026062 biology from usp x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00109-00026063-00026358 in terms of work monica was an assistant x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00110-00026360-00026495 agronomist x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00111-00026495-00026807 for an eu funded project covering eight x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00112-00026808-00027158 acp island countries x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00113-00027160-00027374 currently she is the property manager x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00114-00027375-00027695 for argon construction x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00115-00027695-00027958 in politics monica was a successful x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00116-00027960-00028255 candidate in the 2006 general elections x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00117-00028256-00028574 in fiji in the time of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00118-00028575-00028767 constituency x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00119-00028768-00028999 but only to be ousted six months later x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00120-00029000-00029270 in the 2006 school x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00121-00029272-00029399 no doubt there was a traumatic x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00122-00029400-00029639 experience in monika might share some of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00123-00029639-00029935 her feelings with us today x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00124-00029936-00030231 as a veteran of four elections x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00125-00030232-00030479 one municipality and three general x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00126-00030480-00030790 elections monika is highly qualified to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00127-00030791-00030990 address us today from a personal x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00128-00030991-00031190 experience as well as a professional x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00129-00031191-00031358 experience x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00130-00031360-00031990 okay so monica you may now begin x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00131-00031991-00032214 thank you for the kind introduction or x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00132-00032216-00032959 just switch to um sharing a screen x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00133-00032960-00033143 thank you everybody uh i hope you can x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00134-00033144-00033390 see my screen x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00135-00033391-00033487 yes x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00136-00033488-00033655 all right um since we only have eight x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00137-00033656-00033846 minutes and we've got two other speakers x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00138-00033847-00034039 um thank you for this time x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00139-00034040-00034246 what i'm going to be sharing with you is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00140-00034247-00034511 um really it's the journey that we have x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00141-00034512-00034783 taken and in the in the elections that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00142-00034784-00035055 we've that have taken place since 2006 x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00143-00035056-00035215 and as you know there were two different x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00144-00035216-00035495 types that took place the first one x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00145-00035496-00035727 of course had a preferential system and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00146-00035728-00036039 um we had constituency so i'm just gonna x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00147-00036040-00036230 take us through the slides as we go and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00148-00036231-00036471 um yeah x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00149-00036472-00036815 okay this is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00150-00036816-00036959 i am x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00151-00036960-00037327 right um as mentioned i have fought um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00152-00037328-00037559 four elections one was the municipality x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00153-00037560-00037779 and of course the successful one was x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00154-00037780-00037967 2006. x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00155-00037968-00038135 and i'm going to share with you some of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00156-00038136-00038407 the things that we went through um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00157-00038408-00038583 the challenges before x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00158-00038584-00038830 now each candidate or each x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00159-00038831-00039007 person um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00160-00039008-00039118 wanting to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00161-00039119-00039287 contest x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00162-00039288-00039559 uh has a different story some apply x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00163-00039560-00039743 directly through to the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00164-00039744-00039959 uh to the party that they they would x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00165-00039960-00040127 like to and some get approached and then x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00166-00040128-00040287 they apply x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00167-00040288-00040455 one of the things that we x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00168-00040456-00040646 need to do right at the beginning is to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00169-00040647-00040855 understand and know that if you really x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00170-00040856-00041055 do want to be part of the party you need x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00171-00041056-00041279 to embrace the vision the purpose of the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00172-00041280-00041471 party that you select and the other x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00173-00041472-00041615 thing you gotta ask yourself whether you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00174-00041616-00041751 could deal with it x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00175-00041752-00041911 because many times you get into x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00176-00041912-00042030 something and you can't deal with x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00177-00042031-00042230 certain things so you need to know that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00178-00042231-00042415 right at the beginning time time x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00179-00042416-00042527 management x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00180-00042528-00042751 is very important there is a timeline x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00181-00042752-00042958 for preparation for the elections x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00182-00042959-00043158 usually it's very short x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00183-00043159-00043327 you need your campaign managers and a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00184-00043328-00043543 support team to prepare and of course x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00185-00043544-00043646 finance x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00186-00043647-00043871 determines a lot of things x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00187-00043872-00044135 um and you also need to make sure that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00188-00044136-00044335 when you're going on going on this x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00189-00044336-00044535 journey that you're you you have a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00190-00044536-00044902 personal approach to the elections x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00191-00044903-00045239 when i gotten in 2006 we had 71 members x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00192-00045240-00045495 uh to the lower house of reps and of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00193-00045496-00045846 course i had a constituency um i had i i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00194-00045847-00046127 was allocated one or i chose one x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00195-00046128-00046223 and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00196-00046224-00046407 that made it easier for us because we x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00197-00046408-00046615 had a boundary you had a boundary that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00198-00046616-00046743 you could deal with x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00199-00046744-00046951 and in our case if there was more than x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00200-00046952-00047086 one candidate of course you have a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00201-00047087-00047383 preliminary um sort of like a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00202-00047384-00047543 exercise to carry out so that you could x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00203-00047544-00047823 determine which candidate and takes uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00204-00047824-00048015 or is it really x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00205-00048016-00048302 me x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00206-00048303-00048407 okay x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00207-00048408-00048511 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00208-00048512-00048639 and of course once you know your x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00209-00048640-00048783 boundaries of course you've got your x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00210-00048784-00049015 homework to do then x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00211-00049016-00049302 now the one constituency a challenge x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00212-00049303-00049502 that we've been having all of us um is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00213-00049503-00049686 one thing you know is that you're not x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00214-00049687-00049815 well known or you're not known x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00215-00049816-00050007 throughout the country now that you know x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00216-00050008-00050279 the issues that are faced in these areas x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00217-00050280-00050511 all the areas that are available x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00218-00050512-00050590 and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00219-00050591-00050799 sometimes people can um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00220-00050800-00051023 what we call give a blanket application x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00221-00051024-00051151 that means um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00222-00051152-00051311 the same thing when they look at the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00223-00051312-00051454 manifest so they probably think it x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00224-00051455-00051679 applies everywhere x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00225-00051679-00051823 so one of the things we get told is that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00226-00051824-00052070 the issues faced by say a city dweller x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00227-00052071-00052223 will be different from x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00228-00052224-00052399 say if you pick an area where they may x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00229-00052400-00052647 not have electricity or water x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00230-00052648-00052823 so of course you go through a manifest x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00231-00052824-00052991 specific what is applicable in those x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00232-00052991-00053111 areas x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00233-00053112-00053279 um the challenge x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00234-00053279-00053454 is not only preparing oneself for the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00235-00053455-00053782 campaign but uh also to gain the support x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00236-00053783-00054054 it becomes more like advertising oneself x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00237-00054055-00054303 and and of course that again depends on x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00238-00054304-00054503 the strength of your advertisement and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00239-00054504-00054703 that again depends on the finances that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00240-00054704-00054879 you're able to raise x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00241-00054879-00055023 um and you'll find that you will only be x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00242-00055024-00055230 able to work in the areas accessible to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00243-00055232-00055335 you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00244-00055336-00055447 people x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00245-00055448-00055726 don't always identify with you that's um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00246-00055727-00055991 that's a that's a big challenge x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00247-00055991-00056166 the balancing factor that we normally x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00248-00056167-00056494 have is uh how to balance your life x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00249-00056495-00056591 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00250-00056591-00056759 you got home you got work you got x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00251-00056760-00056975 interest and you've got politics so it's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00252-00056976-00057199 all your own responsibility x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00253-00057200-00057375 remember there's life after politics x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00254-00057376-00057607 when politics ends your family friends x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00255-00057608-00057982 and work should still be there x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00256-00057983-00058207 there were things to prepare beforehand x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00257-00058208-00058423 and usually it's along the list of what x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00258-00058424-00058630 i'm presenting you but this in a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00259-00058632-00058879 nutshell know your party manifesto make x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00260-00058879-00059071 sure you know what's in it and prepare x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00261-00059072-00059311 yourself you know the boundaries the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00262-00059312-00059471 political like the political parties x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00263-00059472-00059703 decree etc there are x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00264-00059704-00059799 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00265-00059800-00059942 they are things that you need to adhere x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00266-00059944-00060038 to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00267-00060039-00060238 reading the newspaper is important and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00268-00060239-00060382 uh to keep in touch with what is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00269-00060383-00060550 happening around you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00270-00060551-00060863 language can also be a barrier so um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00271-00060864-00061071 either you can speak the language or if x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00272-00061072-00061215 you don't understand x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00273-00061216-00061382 if you've got a group that you're x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00274-00061383-00061575 addressing that probably speak in a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00275-00061576-00061679 different x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00276-00061679-00061903 yeah x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00277-00061904-00062119 language and you and if you can't x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00278-00062120-00062350 commute or sorry if you can't x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00279-00062351-00062471 communicate x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00280-00062472-00062654 in that language then it's best that you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00281-00062655-00062959 take someone who can translate for you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00282-00062960-00063159 dressing right i think a lot of women x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00283-00063160-00063303 have this you're dressing right x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00284-00063304-00063471 sometimes you need to climb into trucks x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00285-00063472-00063711 or sometimes into four by fours x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00286-00063712-00063894 and of course most of the time sitting x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00287-00063895-00064063 on the floor so it's important that you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00288-00064064-00064335 know how to how to prepare yourself x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00289-00064336-00064463 you know same thing like taking your x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00290-00064464-00064694 water bottle and you know all those x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00291-00064695-00064830 things x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00292-00064832-00064991 the important thing is when you're in a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00293-00064991-00065247 meeting was to listen and record it's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00294-00065248-00065519 not just uh going and talking but to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00295-00065520-00065687 listen and to record x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00296-00065688-00065831 particularly the questions and come out x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00297-00065832-00066063 and the answers that are given x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00298-00066064-00066247 people always want to hear positive x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00299-00066248-00066350 things x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00300-00066351-00066511 and of course we've learned to know x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00301-00066512-00066719 never to make promises x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00302-00066720-00066863 you know because you're not you need to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00303-00066864-00067311 be able to if you can make it x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00304-00067312-00067559 the other is finding the contact person x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00305-00067560-00067743 for an area um in which you're x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00306-00067744-00067999 campaigning so it's um that you need to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00307-00068000-00068247 normally find the right person x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00308-00068248-00068391 then you're working with your campaign x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00309-00068392-00068631 managers and your team usually you need x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00310-00068632-00068903 to have a a very good one good campaign x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00311-00068904-00069119 managers and finding you need to find x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00312-00069120-00069287 one that you can trust x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00313-00069288-00069479 or at least have some experience and can x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00314-00069480-00069647 handle the work that needs to be carried x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00315-00069648-00069743 out x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00316-00069744-00069959 setting up a campaign office that voters x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00317-00069960-00070150 can easily access x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00318-00070151-00070326 and it's a type of message you need to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00319-00070327-00070575 also prepare the type of message for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00320-00070576-00070711 your campaign now this is not always x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00321-00070712-00070855 given by the party but you need to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00322-00070856-00070982 prepare yourself x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00323-00070983-00071167 because you've got and it has to sort of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00324-00071168-00071438 link up with everything the party has x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00325-00071439-00071719 we also prepare our own um flyers our x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00326-00071720-00072062 banners obtaining all the um permissions x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00327-00072063-00072247 of course getting into the media x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00328-00072248-00072479 responding to questions that get has x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00329-00072480-00072599 flown to us x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00330-00072600-00072767 there's a lot of leg work even during x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00331-00072768-00073062 the time of distribution of flyers um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00332-00073063-00073223 and you need to be x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00333-00073224-00073415 visible which is usually hard if you've x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00334-00073416-00073662 got like several hundred candidates x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00335-00073663-00073911 out there so you know you you you can't x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00336-00073912-00074094 kind of figure out who is more visible x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00337-00074095-00074238 than the other one x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00338-00074239-00074423 you will also get invitations to speak x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00339-00074424-00074575 at gatherings x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00340-00074576-00074879 debates um and these are all you know x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00341-00074880-00075087 it's like taking up the challenge x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00342-00075088-00075223 particularly if you're thrown in for the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00343-00075224-00075479 first time or if you really don't know x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00344-00075480-00075671 uh you know you're still trying to pick x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00345-00075672-00075823 up a lot of things x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00346-00075824-00075950 because there's a lot of reading to be x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00347-00075951-00076047 done x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00348-00076048-00076223 then of course we need to update our x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00349-00076224-00076415 party offices and there's always brief x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00350-00076416-00076582 meeting in a briefing meetings there are x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00351-00076583-00076775 rallies uh that are organized by the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00352-00076776-00076991 parties that we need to attend so all of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00353-00076992-00077262 this again um comes down to planning and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00354-00077263-00077400 getting your diary in order x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00355-00077401-00077559 [Music] x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00356-00077560-00077743 what i learned very early is that nobody x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00357-00077744-00077879 is a full package x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00358-00077880-00078071 right we don't know everything x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00359-00078072-00078311 um and not everyone is an orator some x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00360-00078312-00078543 candidates can be you know people shy x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00361-00078544-00078687 and need help x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00362-00078688-00078894 but they have other strengths and that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00363-00078895-00079055 is probably why maybe some of the best x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00364-00079056-00079303 candidates don't get elected their x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00365-00079304-00079559 strengths may not be visible uh in the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00366-00079560-00079806 public but um that they do very well in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00367-00079807-00079943 different areas x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00368-00079944-00080175 and then there are some candidates um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00369-00080176-00080335 who are not well received because of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00370-00080336-00080575 preconceived ideas or prejudice that may x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00371-00080576-00080750 have arisen from x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00372-00080751-00080943 some notion or something x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00373-00080944-00081111 and another thing that we found very x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00374-00081112-00081335 early women don't normally vote women x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00375-00081336-00081511 because if they did then we have would x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00376-00081512-00081726 have had 50 of the house full of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00377-00081727-00081815 women x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00378-00081816-00081967 so i think that's a clear indication x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00379-00081968-00082262 that women don't normally uh vote women x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00380-00082263-00082479 and of course like i said before x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00381-00082480-00082638 planning your campaign sticking to the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00382-00082639-00082838 timeline that's given as you know x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00383-00082839-00083055 if you have the timeline x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00384-00083056-00083215 uh parties have their timeline for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00385-00083216-00083305 certain things as well x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00386-00083306-00083423 [Music] x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00387-00083424-00083623 and parliament uh my experience in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00388-00083624-00083782 parliament which was about six months x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00389-00083783-00084031 during 2006 it was it was a different x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00390-00084032-00084238 atmosphere of course x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00391-00084239-00084415 with the mp title comes a lot of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00392-00084416-00084582 responsibility x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00393-00084583-00084831 we've become a voice to those that voted x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00394-00084832-00085055 for you and also for those that didn't x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00395-00085056-00085255 uh you need to understand that um so x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00396-00085256-00085399 because you really don't know who voted x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00397-00085400-00085559 for you but you you're there for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00398-00085560-00085679 everybody x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00399-00085680-00085911 um you need to read the constitution and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00400-00085912-00086143 learn the guidelines that are laid x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00401-00086144-00086271 you know in preparation for things x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00402-00086272-00086406 you're going to be doing x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00403-00086407-00086559 you need to know the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00404-00086560-00086735 rules x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00405-00086736-00086862 and of course you get training at the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00406-00086863-00087175 beginning we did when in 2006 x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00407-00087176-00087335 and you've got to prepare a calendar of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00408-00087336-00087623 activities for the year x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00409-00087624-00087799 one of the first major hurdles that i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00410-00087800-00088038 came across uh was preparing my maiden x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00411-00088039-00088382 speech so um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00412-00088383-00088559 you know you kind of stall at that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00413-00088560-00088735 because you you you worried you know if x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00414-00088736-00088855 you're going to say the right thing if x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00415-00088856-00088975 you're going to be x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00416-00088976-00089094 you know if you're x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00417-00089095-00089262 if if everything's going to come out x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00418-00089263-00089375 right so x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00419-00089376-00089535 you know there's a lot of research that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00420-00089536-00089703 goes into that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00421-00089704-00089871 you'd also be if you're a backbencher x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00422-00089872-00090015 which i was uh there would be a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00423-00090016-00090150 committee or committees that you'll be x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00424-00090151-00090382 part of um and there's a lot of reading x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00425-00090383-00090550 and note-taking when people submit their x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00426-00090551-00090703 presentations when a bill isn't on the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00427-00090704-00090799 table x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00428-00090800-00091150 so you know you there's a lot of reading x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00429-00091151-00091318 i found that the library in the research x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00430-00091319-00091511 unit became my favorite hangout when x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00431-00091512-00091694 preparing my speeches x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00432-00091695-00091847 that was one of the places that i would x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00433-00091848-00091943 regularly x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00434-00091944-00092103 um visit x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00435-00092104-00092255 you also have to prepare your questions x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00436-00092256-00092479 on behalf of your constituency x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00437-00092480-00092726 particularly work to parliament x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00438-00092727-00092935 and you need to visit your constituency x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00439-00092936-00093079 you're working on your list of things x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00440-00093080-00093326 that need to be done with your you know x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00441-00093327-00093535 with the offices that were set up x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00442-00093536-00093774 and you will be invited to many places x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00443-00093775-00093926 but you will need to select and of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00444-00093927-00094126 course you need to rsvp sometimes you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00445-00094127-00094406 just we were getting like a pile a week x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00446-00094407-00094647 so you got to decide um which would be x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00447-00094648-00094894 the most appropriate one to attend for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00448-00094895-00094982 you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00449-00094983-00095174 again like the women will tell you your x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00450-00095175-00095382 wardrobe can be a challenge because you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00451-00095383-00095559 can't you know many times people will x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00452-00095560-00095879 still just call their last three x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00453-00095880-00096023 kind of thing x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00454-00096024-00096247 if they have been x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00455-00096248-00096382 done x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00456-00096383-00096615 and then conferences and training uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00457-00096616-00096799 sometimes abroad that you need to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00458-00096800-00097023 prepare for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00459-00097024-00097215 we also responsibilities to our party x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00460-00097216-00097487 and our voters um there usually a lot of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00461-00097488-00097671 party meetings to attend x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00462-00097672-00097855 we have our sort of like emerald x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00463-00097856-00098135 conference national council the meetings x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00464-00098136-00098415 that need to be held and need to let x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00465-00098416-00098631 your x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00466-00098632-00098855 your office know about the things x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00467-00098856-00098991 updating them x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00468-00098992-00099159 they'll be training to attend and you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00469-00099160-00099350 may be training others as well people x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00470-00099351-00099574 will come to you personally for help x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00471-00099575-00099774 or to your party office and of course x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00472-00099775-00100020 all of this involves time and travel x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00473-00100021-00100150 [Music] x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00474-00100151-00100318 and of course if you do not get elected x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00475-00100319-00100494 you can do a couple of things you can x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00476-00100495-00100606 wrap up x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00477-00100607-00100774 wrap up and say thank you it was a great x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00478-00100775-00101038 experience and put away everything x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00479-00101039-00101311 and you thank people of course for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00480-00101312-00101471 supporting those with that day and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00481-00101472-00101679 helped you and you can choose to control x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00482-00101680-00101838 otherwise you could choose to continue x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00483-00101839-00102031 with the party and giving support for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00484-00102032-00102439 the next election or you can take on a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00485-00102440-00102558 you know something in research or x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00486-00102559-00102702 something if you like x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00487-00102703-00102854 or you can just say bye and just say x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00488-00102855-00103047 you've learned a lot on the journey but x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00489-00103048-00103406 at the end of the day life continues x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00490-00103407-00103558 thank you very much for listening and i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00491-00103559-00104230 hope that this has been of somehow x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00492-00104231-00104454 wow thank you monica for sharing so many x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00493-00104455-00104647 important experiences x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00494-00104648-00104830 this is from someone who has been in the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00495-00104831-00104951 trenches x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00496-00104952-00105166 and i'm sure there are lots of lessons x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00497-00105167-00105399 for young aspiring female election x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00498-00105400-00105758 candidates in future x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00499-00105759-00105934 and now we will welcome our second x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00500-00105935-00106239 speaker dr karen baker x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00501-00106240-00106463 she is a fellow x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00502-00106464-00106727 in the department of pacific affairs at x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00503-00106728-00107031 the australian national university x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00504-00107032-00107302 her research focuses on issues of gender x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00505-00107303-00107519 and politics and participation in the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00506-00107520-00107631 pacific x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00507-00107632-00107966 uh karen's phd in political science is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00508-00107967-00108190 from the anu x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00509-00108191-00108358 she has research experience in the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00510-00108359-00108695 french pacific papua papua new guinea x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00511-00108696-00109095 including boganville samoa the solomons x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00512-00109096-00109502 pola and also vanuatu she has published x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00513-00109503-00109710 widely in leading journals x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00514-00109711-00109966 including pacific affairs x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00515-00109967-00110127 government and opposition and the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00516-00110128-00110431 australian journal of political science x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00517-00110432-00110734 her book pacific women in politics x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00518-00110735-00110943 gender coder campaigns in the pacific x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00519-00110944-00111166 islands was published by the university x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00520-00111167-00111495 of hawaii press in 2019 x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00521-00111496-00111695 uh karen it's wonderful to have you with x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00522-00111696-00112047 us today x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00523-00112048-00112223 thank you so much and um thank you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00524-00112224-00112454 monica for your presentation it was so x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00525-00112455-00113199 interesting let me just share my screen x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00526-00113200-00113583 all right so um i'm going to um give a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00527-00113583-00113839 different presentation a more academic x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00528-00113840-00114151 one and taking a regional focus x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00529-00114152-00114366 on women in politics x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00530-00114367-00114519 what does x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00531-00114520-00114719 what's the current situation and what x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00532-00114720-00114927 does the evidence tell us x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00533-00114928-00115134 about what works and increasing a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00534-00115135-00115366 woman's political representation and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00535-00115367-00115615 what doesn't x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00536-00115616-00115983 um so just um to give some context x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00537-00115983-00116239 here are the current levels of women's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00538-00116240-00116454 representation in the independent x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00539-00116455-00116639 pacific states x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00540-00116640-00116990 as you can see our fiji is up the top x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00541-00116991-00117254 and down the bottom you have three x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00542-00117255-00117439 countries the federated states of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00543-00117440-00117702 micronesia papua new guinea and vanuatu x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00544-00117703-00117951 that currently have no woman mps in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00545-00117952-00118199 their national parliament um federated x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00546-00118200-00118358 states of micronesia is actually the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00547-00118359-00118534 only country in the world that's never x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00548-00118535-00118799 elected a woman um at the national level x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00549-00118800-00119054 uh and across the pacific x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00550-00119055-00119263 um uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00551-00119264-00119463 all countries are below the global x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00552-00119464-00119710 average of uh women's representation x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00553-00119711-00119999 which is 25 percent um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00554-00120000-00120399 and the the regional average is 6.8 x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00555-00120400-00120734 um so the the lowest in the world x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00556-00120735-00121023 and but that's not the full story um and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00557-00121024-00121302 if you look at um the um might be called x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00558-00121303-00121527 the non-sovereign pacific um other x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00559-00121528-00121686 countries and territories that aren't x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00560-00121688-00121902 represented in those national level x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00561-00121903-00122151 statistics we see quite a different x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00562-00122152-00122327 story um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00563-00122328-00122543 so if we take these um these countries x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00564-00122544-00122807 and territories together um the average x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00565-00122808-00123047 is 31.1 percent are women's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00566-00123048-00123207 representation which is actually above x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00567-00123208-00123399 the global average and you have quite a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00568-00123400-00123710 few assemblies in the region um the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00569-00123711-00123943 legislature of guam the assembly of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00570-00123944-00124134 french polynesia the congress of new x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00571-00124135-00124527 caledonia um the the council of pitcairn x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00572-00124528-00124766 which actually has 50 or above uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00573-00124767-00124951 women's representation so it's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00574-00124952-00125263 definitely not true that uh pacific x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00575-00125264-00125502 women are absent from politics there's a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00576-00125503-00125710 lot of pacific women who are currently x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00577-00125711-00125951 in politics and have been in the past um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00578-00125952-00126143 but it is true that in the independent x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00579-00126144-00126247 pacific x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00580-00126248-00126510 um we do see a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00581-00126511-00126766 level of representation which is is well x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00582-00126767-00126999 below the global average um but the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00583-00127000-00127310 puzzle i guess is why um there's so much x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00584-00127311-00127831 diversity um within the region x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00585-00127832-00128151 um so in 2016 um i co-authored a report x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00586-00128152-00128358 with my colleague julian barbara x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00587-00128359-00128566 entitled improving the electoral chances x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00588-00128567-00128799 of pacific women and it was an attempt x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00589-00128800-00128886 to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00590-00128888-00129102 synthesize all the research that had x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00591-00129103-00129407 been done in the region uh on uh women x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00592-00129408-00129590 candidates and their success rates and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00593-00129591-00129799 what works and what doesn't work x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00594-00129800-00129966 and also proposed x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00595-00129967-00130207 some potential future avenues from x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00596-00130208-00130383 research or strategies that could be x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00597-00130383-00130831 tried um and so what we found um is that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00598-00130832-00131078 a women are underrepresented and those x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00599-00131079-00131327 national level statistics are less x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00600-00131328-00131551 likely to stand for elections so in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00601-00131552-00131735 elections you see far more men x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00602-00131736-00131927 candidates than women candidates but x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00603-00131928-00132143 where women candidates do stand they're x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00604-00132144-00132407 less likely to win um so that's a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00605-00132408-00132590 problem as well x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00606-00132591-00132695 but x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00607-00132696-00132927 if you look at surveys conducted in the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00608-00132928-00133135 research and in the region so we can see x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00609-00133136-00133311 widespread support for greater women's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00610-00133312-00133590 political representation in principle x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00611-00133591-00133831 so voters do support the idea of having x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00612-00133832-00134063 more women in politics it just doesn't x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00613-00134064-00134375 necessarily translate to votes x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00614-00134376-00134575 we found that women winning elections in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00615-00134576-00134783 the pacific requires x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00616-00134784-00135102 a high public profile requires a good x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00617-00135103-00135247 reputation x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00618-00135248-00135502 credibility and leadership experience x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00619-00135503-00135671 really good networks x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00620-00135672-00135911 and resources which is a key challenge x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00621-00135912-00136175 for many women candidates the financial x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00622-00136176-00136439 resources to contest x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00623-00136440-00136559 we know that women are perceived x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00624-00136560-00136759 differently as candidates even if they x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00625-00136760-00136966 use the same strategies as men x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00626-00136967-00137199 candidates they might not be perceived x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00627-00137200-00137487 the same way um and the playing field x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00628-00137488-00137654 can be leveled though especially with x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00629-00137655-00137831 money if you're a really well-resourced x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00630-00137832-00138023 woman candidate that does get you across x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00631-00138024-00138254 a lot of barriers but that's still very x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00632-00138255-00138502 difficult and it's not uh um it's not a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00633-00138503-00138727 guaranteed solution x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00634-00138728-00138990 um and the other thing we found is that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00635-00138991-00139254 it's quite it's it's really hard to take x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00636-00139255-00139511 what works in one context in the pacific x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00637-00139512-00139735 and apply it to another context even x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00638-00139736-00139911 within the same country it's very x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00639-00139912-00140159 difficult it's all about understanding x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00640-00140160-00140471 your local context and and what works um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00641-00140472-00140663 uh what would work for you there you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00642-00140664-00140895 can't just kind of adopt a strategy from x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00643-00140896-00141054 somewhere else then and expect it to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00644-00141055-00141327 work the same way x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00645-00141328-00141487 um just going through really briefly x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00646-00141488-00141727 some recent elections to illustrate um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00647-00141728-00141951 that first point um this was a solomon x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00648-00141952-00142271 islands election in um april 2019 x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00649-00142272-00142471 only eight percent of candidates were x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00650-00142472-00142759 women so very low proportion um and the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00651-00142760-00142959 success rate of women candidates was x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00652-00142960-00143247 also really low 16 percent of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00653-00143248-00143454 men got into parliament but only eight x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00654-00143455-00143743 percent of the woman who stood x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00655-00143744-00144007 um quite similar in vanuatu a six x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00656-00144008-00144102 percent x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00657-00144103-00144287 of the total number of candidates were x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00658-00144288-00144583 women um and unfortunately no women were x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00659-00144584-00144814 elected um in this election in vanuatu x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00660-00144815-00144990 so the success rate for women was zero x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00661-00144991-00145239 percent uh whereas about one in five of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00662-00145240-00145607 the men who stood uh were elected x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00663-00145608-00145935 um in samoa um noting that um this x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00664-00145936-00146078 process is still ongoing with x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00665-00146079-00146295 by-elections and things so this was only x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00666-00146296-00146654 the the results from election day um 11 x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00667-00146655-00146935 of the the candidates in the samoan x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00668-00146936-00147166 election this year women x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00669-00147167-00147359 which basically you have to be have a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00670-00147360-00147687 matai title to run um in samoa and about x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00671-00147688-00147887 one in ten um a thai title holder is a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00672-00147888-00148095 woman so this is actually quite kind of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00673-00148096-00148431 proportionate to the eligible candidates x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00674-00148432-00148687 um but you can see here that actually x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00675-00148688-00148863 the success rates for women and men are x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00676-00148864-00149239 a lot closer uh and some are um 24 x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00677-00149240-00149439 of the women candidates who ran were x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00678-00149440-00149775 elected compared to 28 for men so while x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00679-00149776-00150007 in general you see this gap it really x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00680-00150008-00150247 depends on on the country as to how x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00681-00150248-00150495 pronounced it is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00682-00150496-00150783 i'm just going to briefly um show some x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00683-00150784-00151054 graphs from research that has been done x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00684-00151055-00151247 by the fiji women's forum international x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00685-00151248-00151431 women's development agency the women's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00686-00151432-00151575 rights action movement in solomon x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00687-00151576-00151807 islands and the department of pacific x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00688-00151808-00152078 affairs at the anu um which i think x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00689-00152079-00152439 overall um shows that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00690-00152440-00152847 a significant number of voters um don't x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00691-00152848-00153143 uh don't take gender necessarily into x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00692-00153144-00153302 account when they're choosing to vote x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00693-00153303-00153566 for a candidate um the percentage of um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00694-00153567-00153854 if voters who prefer to vote for a man x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00695-00153855-00154119 is pretty low actually according to um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00696-00154120-00154247 to this data x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00697-00154248-00154487 um in solomon islands we saw a decent x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00698-00154488-00154663 amount of um uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00699-00154664-00154854 people in 2019 reported that they x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00700-00154855-00155023 actually had voted for a woman candidate x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00701-00155024-00155278 before so they're obviously open to to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00702-00155279-00155511 voting for women and that was um backed x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00703-00155512-00155647 up in this um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00704-00155648-00155999 anu research as well um people were you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00705-00156000-00156207 know over 50 of people said that they x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00706-00156208-00156431 would vote for a woman candidate um so x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00707-00156432-00156599 that's you know obviously it would be x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00708-00156600-00156775 nice if that was higher but that's a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00709-00156776-00157126 good sign x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00710-00157127-00157383 um this is also a research in 2019 and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00711-00157384-00157607 solomon islands um do women and men get x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00712-00157608-00157863 the same chances to be elected um you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00713-00157864-00158119 can see like quite a difference across x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00714-00158120-00158431 different um different provinces um but x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00715-00158432-00158847 overall um people feel like um there is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00716-00158848-00158926 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00717-00158927-00159151 women have a good chance if thus putting x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00718-00159152-00159319 themselves forward um however that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00719-00159320-00159495 doesn't necessarily reflect what x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00720-00159496-00159975 actually happens um at the polling booth x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00721-00159976-00160263 um and then this is um some anu research x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00722-00160264-00160487 from the the papua new guinea general x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00723-00160488-00160911 elections in 2017. um this is a bit x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00724-00160912-00161175 broken down by region um so do you think x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00725-00161176-00161447 there should be more women mps um in all x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00726-00161448-00161871 regions over 50 percent um and up to 77 x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00727-00161872-00162071 of respondents said yes x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00728-00162072-00162254 um would you vote for a good woman x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00729-00162255-00162423 candidate um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00730-00162424-00162759 at least 65 and up to 89 x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00731-00162760-00162871 said yes x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00732-00162872-00163007 um but when x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00733-00163008-00163207 we asked are any good women candidates x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00734-00163208-00163478 contesting this election um those x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00735-00163479-00163695 numbers drop quite significantly so we x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00736-00163696-00163935 can see the gap here um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00737-00163936-00164111 voters like to believe that they'll vote x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00738-00164112-00164431 for a woman candidate but then the um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00739-00164432-00164511 the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00740-00164512-00164766 uh the criteria for a good woman x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00741-00164767-00164999 candidate seems quite hard to meet for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00742-00165000-00165343 for a lot of people x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00743-00165344-00165623 um and this is some 2014 research from x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00744-00165624-00165990 fiji um showing that i guess what this x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00745-00165991-00166166 tells me is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00746-00166167-00166311 um that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00747-00166312-00166454 uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00748-00166455-00166695 people see men and women as having x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00749-00166696-00166983 different but complementary strengths x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00750-00166984-00167326 um and so um people uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00751-00167327-00167526 believe that that men might be better at x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00752-00167527-00167775 some aspects of politics but that women x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00753-00167776-00168102 are better at others um and so that also x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00754-00168103-00168254 kind of supports x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00755-00168255-00168551 the idea that um you know um people are x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00756-00168552-00168751 broadly supportive of women's political x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00757-00168752-00168951 representation but again that doesn't x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00758-00168952-00169166 necessarily translate to actually x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00759-00169167-00169287 getting x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00760-00169288-00169407 a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00761-00169408-00169631 balanced number of men and women in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00762-00169632-00169887 parliament x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00763-00169888-00170135 i wanted to address the issue that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00764-00170136-00170375 monika raised on the woman vote for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00765-00170376-00170502 woman because i think it's really x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00766-00170503-00170663 important and it comes out time and time x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00767-00170664-00170854 again this is a quote from the late x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00768-00170855-00171166 tongan prime minister akhilisi pohiva um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00769-00171167-00171423 just after he was elected prime minister x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00770-00171424-00171766 um in 2014 um and he's talking about x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00771-00171767-00171975 because no women were elected um in this x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00772-00171976-00172190 um tongan election but he was saying you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00773-00172191-00172575 know women are 50 of the voters so so x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00774-00172576-00172814 why why is this happening um why are we x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00775-00172815-00173047 seeing more women elected um and i think x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00776-00173048-00173151 this is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00777-00173152-00173311 you know it's fair and it's a source of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00778-00173312-00173495 frustration for many women candidates i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00779-00173496-00173695 think um but it's important to remember x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00780-00173696-00174023 that you know gender is one aspect of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00781-00174024-00174254 our identities and it's one part of our x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00782-00174255-00174671 political calculus um and it's uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00783-00174672-00174878 voting is complex you've got to take a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00784-00174879-00175063 whole range of things into account x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00785-00175064-00175263 gender might be one of those things but x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00786-00175264-00175543 it is only one of those things and so um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00787-00175544-00175790 women really have to appeal to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00788-00175791-00176054 everything um and it's true that they're x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00789-00176055-00176247 held to a different standard than men i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00790-00176248-00176383 think we see that pretty consistently x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00791-00176384-00176526 across the region and it's very x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00792-00176527-00176783 difficult but it's important not to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00793-00176784-00176990 place all the blame on women voters x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00794-00176991-00177238 because men voters should also be voting x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00795-00177239-00177526 for a woman as well x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00796-00177527-00177711 um so just lastly x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00797-00177712-00177935 i wanted to end with some of the um the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00798-00177936-00178190 findings from this 2016 report which is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00799-00178191-00178335 five years old now but i think it's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00800-00178336-00178614 still really relevant um about how to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00801-00178615-00178895 support um women candidates and aspiring x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00802-00178896-00179143 women candidates going forward um i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00803-00179144-00179335 think it's really important to have a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00804-00179336-00179631 long-term approach um to have an x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00805-00179632-00179959 electoral cycle approach um so x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00806-00179960-00180302 not just um supporting women x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00807-00180303-00180447 six months out from the election or x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00808-00180448-00180607 three months out from the election but x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00809-00180608-00180814 approaching women you know a whole x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00810-00180815-00180990 electoral cycle away after the last x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00811-00180991-00181199 election saying do you want to run um in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00812-00181200-00181447 the next one and how can you prepare x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00813-00181448-00181726 um making sure that um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00814-00181727-00181871 candidates understand the local x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00815-00181872-00182047 political economy that they understand x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00816-00182048-00182302 the the rules of the game not just the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00817-00182303-00182535 formal rules but how politics is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00818-00182536-00182719 practiced on the ground and what voters x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00819-00182720-00182990 want to see from their their candidates x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00820-00182991-00183287 um building effective coalitions um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00821-00183288-00183463 approaching community leaders and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00822-00183464-00183654 getting their support making sure your x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00823-00183655-00183966 networks are working for you um and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00824-00183967-00184190 knowing what a good local leader looks x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00825-00184191-00184519 like um and and how women can can meet x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00826-00184520-00184775 those um those standards x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00827-00184776-00184983 and also finding creative ways to bridge x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00828-00184984-00185247 resource gaps because not all women will x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00829-00185248-00185414 have a huge bucket of money that they x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00830-00185415-00185743 can use um so making sure that the the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00831-00185744-00185926 money that does need to be spent on an x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00832-00185927-00186135 election campaign is not wasted that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00833-00186136-00186431 it's spent creatively and smartly and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00834-00186432-00186678 the other you know um potential solution x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00835-00186679-00186950 is institutional reforms it's um gender x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00836-00186951-00187223 quotas it's looking at how legislation x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00837-00187224-00187463 can be changed to better support a woman x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00838-00187464-00187607 candidates in it and increase their x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00839-00187608-00187838 chances in elections and that's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00840-00187839-00188023 a difficult prospect in much of the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00841-00188024-00188311 pacific um but we have seen some success x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00842-00188312-00188638 um in vanuatu and bougainville and samoa x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00843-00188639-00188790 in bringing in these institutional x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00844-00188791-00189054 reforms um so so there's prospects there x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00845-00189055-00189343 to apply it across the region as well x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00846-00189344-00189550 so i'll stop there thanks very much x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00847-00189551-00189943 everyone x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00848-00189944-00190166 thank you karen x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00849-00190167-00190423 you have given us so many new insights x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00850-00190424-00190647 including the importance of research x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00851-00190648-00191023 to really come to grips with the problem x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00852-00191024-00191207 and one of the things that caught my eye x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00853-00191208-00191526 was the need for a high public profile x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00854-00191527-00191814 to do well in the elections x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00855-00191815-00192071 and what research shows including the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00856-00192072-00192278 one research done in fiji x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00857-00192279-00192535 is that women candidates are invisible x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00858-00192536-00192663 in the media x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00859-00192664-00192814 so maybe this is one of the areas we x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00860-00192815-00193111 need to tackle in future x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00861-00193112-00193271 okay so now i have great pleasure x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00862-00193272-00193583 introducing our final speaker x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00863-00193584-00193823 saini nambo is the general secretary of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00864-00193824-00194047 the national federation party x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00865-00194048-00194454 and previously a party vice president x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00866-00194455-00194678 she proudly held from oniyata in the lao x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00867-00194679-00194759 group x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00868-00194760-00195014 with maternal links to khambara also in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00869-00195015-00195150 lao x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00870-00195151-00195375 and saini tells us that she greatly x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00871-00195376-00195678 appreciates being raised with firm x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00872-00195679-00195966 iraqi and raw values from a maternal x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00873-00195967-00196278 grandmother x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00874-00196279-00196471 she holds a postgraduate qualification x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00875-00196472-00196671 in educational technology x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00876-00196672-00196823 from the university of southern x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00877-00196824-00197078 queensland in australia x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00878-00197079-00197311 and she trained as a journalist and is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00879-00197312-00197487 an environmentalist x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00880-00197488-00197711 and this stems from her work as a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00881-00197712-00197926 political advisor for greenpeace x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00882-00197927-00198143 australia pacific x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00883-00198144-00198414 she's a media commentator especially x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00884-00198415-00198654 climate change and oceans x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00885-00198655-00198926 and she is also a consultant but most x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00886-00198927-00199238 importantly a wife and a mother to four x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00887-00199239-00199559 children and two pet dogs x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00888-00199560-00200495 okay you may now begin x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00889-00200496-00200735 thank you very much uh dr singh thank x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00890-00200736-00200926 you also adi x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00891-00200927-00201087 and to my um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00892-00201088-00201326 fellow co-panelists karen and monica x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00893-00201327-00201543 thank you for your very insightful uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00894-00201544-00201671 presentations x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00895-00201672-00201959 uh and i'd also like to equal my x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00896-00201960-00202150 gratitude to international idea for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00897-00202151-00202390 providing uh this space in which to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00898-00202391-00202607 discuss some of the challenges and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00899-00202608-00202807 opportunities for women to step into x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00900-00202808-00202983 political spaces x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00901-00202984-00203319 i've been asked to firstly share some x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00902-00203320-00203487 thoughts on women's abilities to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00903-00203488-00203790 fundraise as well as talk about funding x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00904-00203791-00203966 support from parties x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00905-00203967-00204183 and to answer the question whether x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00906-00204184-00204399 finance where the finance is a barrier x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00907-00204400-00204702 to women's participation in politics so x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00908-00204703-00204919 i thought i would start the conversation x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00909-00204919-00205119 around and talk about the opportunities x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00910-00205119-00205334 that i see x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00911-00205335-00205438 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00912-00205439-00205566 for starters x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00913-00205567-00205782 i am keenly following online the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00914-00205783-00205998 upcoming university of the south pacific x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00915-00206000-00206214 students association elections i think x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00916-00206215-00206455 to be held in october sometime and i'm x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00917-00206456-00206671 just marveling at the numbers and the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00918-00206671-00206879 types of female students putting their x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00919-00206880-00207119 hand up and aligning to particular x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00920-00207119-00207366 students campaign groups x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00921-00207367-00207558 my takeaway from that is that young x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00922-00207559-00207806 women are keen and they're eager to give x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00923-00207807-00208014 voice to matches that they care deeply x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00924-00208015-00208119 about x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00925-00208119-00208255 and i'm also x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00926-00208256-00208614 excited to see that usp is encouraging a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00927-00208615-00208879 more visible elections uh process for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00928-00208880-00208990 students x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00929-00208991-00209206 as you usb is traditionally the breeding x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00930-00209207-00209390 ground for student activism as we all x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00931-00209391-00209590 know from the 70s and the pacific x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00932-00209591-00209991 nuclear free movement then x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00933-00209992-00210151 the other opportunity from this x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00934-00210152-00210455 unscientific observation uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00935-00210456-00210646 is that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00936-00210648-00210823 that that there's an indication that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00937-00210823-00210942 despite x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00938-00210944-00211191 covered and the joblessness the poverty x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00939-00211192-00211391 and the hardship there is still an x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00940-00211392-00211655 appetite among young women to step x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00941-00211656-00211903 forward uh you know x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00942-00211904-00212071 referring again to the usp students x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00943-00212071-00212246 association uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00944-00212248-00212415 to step forward for students political x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00945-00212416-00212558 representation x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00946-00212559-00212758 and that technology x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00947-00212759-00212998 is going to be the high-speed highway x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00948-00213000-00213071 for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00949-00213071-00213334 political conversations x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00950-00213335-00213558 so that brings me to the barriers to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00951-00213559-00213846 women's participation and while finance x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00952-00213848-00214103 is a barrier that i'll speak to more x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00953-00214104-00214223 later x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00954-00214223-00214479 there is no shortage of women's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00955-00214480-00214782 capabilities to read to to lead x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00956-00214783-00214919 excuse me x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00957-00214919-00215127 what i do see is that there is a vacuum x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00958-00215128-00215319 from x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00959-00215319-00215591 uh you know where women do live x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00960-00215592-00215782 lead and give voice at the community x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00961-00215783-00216006 level at the ngo level at the media x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00962-00216007-00216263 level at the professional technical x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00963-00216264-00216494 business industry and sectoral level x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00964-00216496-00216703 women are the bridge builders the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00965-00216704-00217015 nurturers they're multitaskers x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00966-00217016-00217175 and they know when to raise their voice x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00967-00217176-00217310 we know this x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00968-00217311-00217471 but i think what we do have at the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00969-00217471-00217655 problem and and as a barrier is that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00970-00217656-00217887 there is a gap from that level x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00971-00217888-00218031 into parliament x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00972-00218032-00218294 whereas before we used to have like the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00973-00218296-00218471 local government or municipal uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00974-00218471-00218719 elections that were quite x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00975-00218719-00218934 valuable training grounds for for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00976-00218935-00219110 political um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00977-00219111-00219398 represent representatives to be able to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00978-00219400-00219615 understand their community better and to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00979-00219616-00219975 understand how to represent x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00980-00219976-00220263 voters and taxpayers and ratepayers at x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00981-00220264-00220406 that level x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00982-00220407-00220903 so x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00983-00220904-00221127 the other challenge of course is that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00984-00221128-00221351 the women that we who we know we have x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00985-00221352-00221439 seen x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00986-00221440-00221631 as leaders in the community levels and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00987-00221632-00221879 in their various sectoral areas x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00988-00221880-00221951 that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00989-00221952-00222158 they may not be confident x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00990-00222159-00222351 about taking the next step and that's a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00991-00222352-00222687 challenge for political parties like us x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00992-00222688-00222887 as we said to the parliamentary standing x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00993-00222888-00223094 committee when we made our party x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00994-00223096-00223255 submission and to commemorate x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00995-00223256-00223439 international women's day march this x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00996-00223440-00223542 year x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00997-00223544-00223887 the nfp pledges to actively advocate for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00998-00223888-00224055 temporary special measures or reserve x0_VdrtZ8Q4-00999-00224056-00224358 quarters to uphold a 30 percent x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01000-00224359-00224598 target as pledged by fiji way back in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01001-00224600-00224751 1995 x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01002-00224752-00225015 during the beijing processes x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01003-00225016-00225342 now on finances firstly it's culturally x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01004-00225344-00225591 awkward for new political entrants to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01005-00225592-00225855 fundraise for elections campaigns let x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01006-00225856-00226127 alone women so that's the first thing x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01007-00226128-00226351 now is there a space for inter-sectoral x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01008-00226352-00226591 groups to to brainstorm about that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01009-00226592-00226942 barrier and and how to remove that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01010-00226944-00227055 secondly x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01011-00227056-00227319 the electoral laws are a barrier the new x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01012-00227319-00227534 amendments become x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01013-00227535-00227775 even more administratively cumbersome to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01014-00227776-00228023 worry about as a candidate is out there x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01015-00228023-00228191 canvassing for goals x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01016-00228192-00228423 for example we have been told by the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01017-00228423-00228615 elections office that every financial x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01018-00228616-00228823 and non-financial contribution to a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01019-00228823-00228942 candidate's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01020-00228944-00229191 campaign has to be receipted x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01021-00229192-00229375 so um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01022-00229376-00229582 to put that into context if a married x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01023-00229583-00229734 woman has been given ten thousand x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01024-00229735-00229910 dollars from her husband x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01025-00229911-00230119 uh which is the limit for donations to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01026-00230119-00230446 campaign on and he gives her his car to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01027-00230448-00230758 use for campaigning when she files for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01028-00230759-00230975 her nominations with a party x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01029-00230976-00231191 and is found to be in breach of a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01030-00231192-00231351 donation laws x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01031-00231352-00231551 because she received the 10 000 from her x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01032-00231552-00231782 husband plus the use of the car the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01033-00231783-00232055 whole party can be suspended x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01034-00232056-00232215 in our view that's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01035-00232216-00232431 quite unreasonable and it's working x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01036-00232432-00232575 progress with the elections office so x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01037-00232576-00232815 that is one way that parties like us are x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01038-00232816-00233079 trying to even up the playing field x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01039-00233080-00233367 to get more women into politics x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01040-00233367-00233671 in terms of finding support from parties x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01041-00233671-00233919 whereas we try to help our women x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01042-00233919-00234231 candidates and for example in 2018 x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01043-00234232-00234334 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01044-00234335-00234646 we used to give subsidized grog to women x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01045-00234648-00234863 candidates for when they would be x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01046-00234864-00235103 hosting campaign meetings but now we x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01047-00235104-00235334 have to be very mindful that we do not x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01048-00235335-00235703 run foul of electoral laws x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01049-00235704-00235919 the other situation is the new amendment x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01050-00235919-00236134 requiring women to use their birth x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01051-00236135-00236382 certificate names when voting political x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01052-00236383-00236591 parties just had a briefing with the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01053-00236592-00236855 supervisor of elections earlier today x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01054-00236856-00237175 and we've been told that their names x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01055-00237176-00237446 as is remain on the voter roll but it's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01056-00237448-00237734 only that the green voter id cards which x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01057-00237735-00237903 are expired x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01058-00237904-00238071 but the elections offers will likely x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01059-00238071-00238271 insist on the use of birth certificate x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01060-00238271-00238487 names or the new names if they do change x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01061-00238488-00238719 it by x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01062-00238719-00238910 the process given by the births deaths x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01063-00238911-00239094 and marriages office x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01064-00239096-00239231 they will insist upon that for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01065-00239232-00239494 candidates only so that's going to cause x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01066-00239496-00239687 a lot of confusion that we will have to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01067-00239688-00239846 continue to work through with the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01068-00239848-00239998 elections office to get a little bit x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01069-00240000-00240158 more clarity on because if we're x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01070-00240159-00240294 confused then x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01071-00240296-00240510 it's likely that our x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01072-00240511-00240727 constituents will be doubly confused as x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01073-00240728-00240927 well x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01074-00240928-00241142 incidentally uh the elections office x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01075-00241144-00241367 also advised us they want to be ready x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01076-00241367-00241630 for elections by may 2022 x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01077-00241631-00241798 and then wait for the writ to be issued x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01078-00241800-00241982 so there's not a lot of time x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01079-00241983-00242255 um i think i'll end there and i hope x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01080-00242256-00242479 i've given some insight um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01081-00242480-00242646 into some of the berries about finance x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01082-00242648-00242879 there's in fact when i'm listening to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01083-00242880-00243094 monica i'm just thinking about how x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01084-00243096-00243334 monica you and i should write a book x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01085-00243335-00243606 about as a primer for young women but x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01086-00243607-00243806 i'll end there and i'm happy to take x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01087-00243807-00244271 questions thank you dr singh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01088-00244271-00244463 thank you sani x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01089-00244464-00244710 some very good insights from you as a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01090-00244711-00244887 political candidate x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01091-00244888-00245063 sane is another one who has been through x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01092-00245064-00245310 the trenches and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01093-00245311-00245551 her views need to be taken seriously if x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01094-00245552-00246039 the situation is to be improved x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01095-00246040-00246319 so all the three speakers have spoken x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01096-00246319-00246567 we now have about 40 minutes x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01097-00246567-00246846 for questions and discussion discussions x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01098-00246848-00247055 so you know i encourage all the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01099-00247056-00247263 participants the audience to send in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01100-00247264-00247391 their questions x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01101-00247392-00247598 we already have some questions here and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01102-00247600-00247751 we will start with that but please x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01103-00247752-00248030 continue making comments and passing x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01104-00248031-00248367 writing down questions x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01105-00248367-00248567 okay so so the first question i have is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01106-00248567-00248846 for dr karen baker x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01107-00248848-00249015 she pointed out that fiji has the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01108-00249016-00249287 pacific's highest female representation x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01109-00249288-00249463 in parliament x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01110-00249464-00249687 and the question we have is to ensure x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01111-00249688-00249846 continuity x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01112-00249848-00250087 should fiji like other pacific island x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01113-00250088-00250191 countries x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01114-00250192-00250503 consider introducing a quota system to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01115-00250504-00250782 ensure parity for the long term x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01116-00250783-00251439 is it necessary to do that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01117-00251440-00251558 uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01118-00251559-00251758 i'll um i'll answer first but i'd really x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01119-00251759-00251951 also love the perspective of my other x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01120-00251952-00252230 panelists um on this um as well um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01121-00252231-00252463 because it is uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01122-00252464-00252823 a tough question um should fiji x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01123-00252823-00253182 introduce a quota um possibly uh quotas x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01124-00253183-00253534 are very controversial um but hard to um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01125-00253535-00253719 to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01126-00253719-00254071 get public support um for because um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01127-00254071-00254279 people feel really complicated uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01128-00254280-00254446 emotions when we're talking about quotas x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01129-00254448-00254639 you know you've got ideas of of what's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01130-00254640-00254951 democratic and what's fair um and it's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01131-00254952-00255215 um sometimes hard to reconcile uh quotas x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01132-00255216-00255446 with that um so x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01133-00255448-00255694 in you know it's i think it's a more x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01134-00255696-00255806 urgent x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01135-00255807-00255927 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01136-00255928-00256151 uh solution for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01137-00256152-00256439 parts of the pacific that have really x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01138-00256440-00256687 low rates of women's representation and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01139-00256688-00256927 politics or no woman at all represented x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01140-00256928-00257215 in their parliaments um for fiji um it's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01141-00257216-00257558 it's a different situation um so yeah x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01142-00257559-00257887 i'm i don't think that i have a proper x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01143-00257888-00258142 answer to it um but i'd love to hear the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01144-00258144-00258310 perspectives from um from my other x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01145-00258311-00258727 panelists x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01146-00258728-00259142 monica what are your views x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01147-00259144-00259351 when i was first asked that i think it x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01148-00259352-00259575 was way back in 2006 x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01149-00259576-00259727 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01150-00259728-00260151 i felt uh fiji had a more open system in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01151-00260152-00260342 terms that i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01152-00260344-00260719 um many of my voters were males at once x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01153-00260719-00260919 united kind of equal proportion if you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01154-00260919-00261127 like in 2006 x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01155-00261128-00261310 and i felt that the the women that had x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01156-00261311-00261455 stood up um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01157-00261456-00261687 had worked very hard and uh just like x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01158-00261688-00261806 the men had x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01159-00261807-00261951 and um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01160-00261952-00262119 even if you look at it from that time x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01161-00262119-00262415 eight now to 11 there's been an increase x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01162-00262416-00262567 and it's got nothing to do with photo x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01163-00262568-00262871 systems but just um working as hard as x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01164-00262872-00263039 everybody else because i don't think we x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01165-00263040-00263223 really have even though i said women x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01166-00263224-00263430 don't vote women you do have women that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01167-00263431-00263655 do vote women but you have men that vote x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01168-00263656-00263782 women as well x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01169-00263783-00264079 so for me i think um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01170-00264080-00264255 you know once you begin to get a quarter x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01171-00264256-00264503 system and you begin to reach that i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01172-00264504-00264630 have a feeling x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01173-00264631-00264951 you may end up having a gender imbalance x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01174-00264952-00265071 you know men x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01175-00265072-00265158 men x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01176-00265159-00265327 may have difficulty too after a while x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01177-00265328-00265527 because you've what i've found is that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01178-00265528-00265751 um i'm not saying men are not educated x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01179-00265752-00266006 enough but you'll find that the women x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01180-00266007-00266158 wants to get into these arenas and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01181-00266159-00266343 fields they actually excel x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01182-00266344-00266671 and they they um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01183-00266672-00266927 they do well um in our case for fiji x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01184-00266928-00267255 labor party we have uh people like we've x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01185-00267256-00267455 got uh we've got a lot of the farming x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01186-00267456-00267582 areas we've got people from all x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01187-00267583-00267743 different areas x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01188-00267744-00267887 and they have x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01189-00267888-00268006 their support x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01190-00268007-00268175 whereas most of our women that have come x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01191-00268176-00268351 through are x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01192-00268352-00268534 mainly urban dwellers x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01193-00268535-00268695 and most of them x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01194-00268696-00268847 are able to handle themselves pretty x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01195-00268848-00269015 well i don't know if that kind of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01196-00269016-00269182 answers x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01197-00269183-00269558 like like karen i i'm like not x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01198-00269559-00269751 let's say quality system for fiji is a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01199-00269752-00270030 big question mark i was more towards i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01200-00270031-00270263 think women can handle it x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01201-00270264-00270399 and i think they've been handling it x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01202-00270400-00270639 pretty well x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01203-00270640-00271030 that's my take x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01204-00271031-00272495 okay let's see can we hear from you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01205-00272496-00272799 sorry did did you ask x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01206-00272800-00272991 charlie i'm sorry yeah please don't ask x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01207-00272992-00273647 if you could share your views as well x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01208-00273648-00273855 yeah i'm asking you for your views can i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01209-00273856-00274119 see your input x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01210-00274120-00274327 when i see or see me x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01211-00274328-00274710 i'm sorry sani my apologies right that's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01212-00274711-00274815 all right x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01213-00274816-00274934 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01214-00274935-00275134 so yes as we said we've made a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01215-00275135-00275351 commitment to it and i'm not get all x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01216-00275352-00275582 both sides of the argument but you know x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01217-00275583-00275855 a commitment was made in 1995 x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01218-00275856-00276182 uh fought very hard by by our all x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01219-00276183-00276463 sectors of of uh women's representation x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01220-00276464-00276679 in fiji including the ngos x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01221-00276680-00276927 um we are at a good spot right now but x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01222-00276928-00277223 it doesn't mean that we stop there 30 30 x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01223-00277224-00277303 30 x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01224-00277304-00277582 is aspirational and we should be putting x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01225-00277583-00277719 some firm commitments to getting it x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01226-00277720-00277903 through because the other thing x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01227-00277904-00278158 is that it can become an elitist x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01228-00278159-00278447 uh sort of representation you know we x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01229-00278448-00278567 need to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01230-00278568-00278806 for example if there is a woman who is a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01231-00278807-00278967 market vendor x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01232-00278968-00279095 you can't expect somebody from the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01233-00279096-00279295 business sector to be able to articulate x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01234-00279296-00279527 the challenges and the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01235-00279528-00279775 and the laws that need to change x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01236-00279776-00279991 for for women in that sector so that is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01237-00279992-00280191 why we need to strive a little bit x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01238-00280192-00280406 harder and i'm i'm grateful that the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01239-00280407-00280615 party has taken this on board as a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01240-00280616-00280782 commitment x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01241-00280783-00281055 thank you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01242-00281056-00281255 thank you uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01243-00281256-00281503 okay the other audience question is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01244-00281504-00281767 for a woman to be nominated how x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01245-00281768-00282015 important are qualifications and social x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01246-00282016-00282367 background and status x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01247-00282368-00282534 this question i mean i'll put it to any x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01248-00282535-00282703 one of the panelists x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01249-00282704-00283599 to answer x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01250-00283600-00284134 maybe start with monica x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01251-00284135-00284471 when um we get x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01252-00284472-00284558 people x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01253-00284559-00284775 when they put in their nominations we x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01254-00284776-00284887 normally x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01255-00284888-00285279 interview them and you'll find that um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01256-00285280-00285615 status uh social x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01257-00285616-00285967 sort of status um their backgrounds x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01258-00285968-00286119 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01259-00286120-00286423 it's not so much as as as that as so x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01260-00286424-00286623 much as what they can bring to the table x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01261-00286624-00286895 many of these women that do come through x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01262-00286896-00287127 with their nominations um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01263-00287128-00287391 usually are quel x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01264-00287392-00287534 they know what they're doing in their x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01265-00287535-00287782 areas and they know they feel so for me x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01266-00287783-00288030 um a qualification in terms of having a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01267-00288031-00288215 degree or something to me doesn't really x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01268-00288216-00288375 matter so much as they x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01269-00288376-00288582 as they know the area the field that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01270-00288583-00288727 they're in the areas that they're going x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01271-00288728-00288927 to be wanting to represent x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01272-00288928-00289143 um who they're representing x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01273-00289144-00289230 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01274-00289231-00289343 and uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01275-00289344-00289630 if they're able to get out there and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01276-00289631-00289799 be able to do what's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01277-00289800-00289943 you know to do the needful to get out x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01278-00289944-00290071 there and help people x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01279-00290072-00290303 and to get things moving um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01280-00290304-00290534 i don't think um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01281-00290535-00290839 because most of our we're labor so most x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01282-00290840-00291030 of our uh our candidates have been from x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01283-00291031-00291191 the working field has always been from x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01284-00291192-00291334 the working field x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01285-00291335-00291623 um yeah x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01286-00291624-00291799 thank you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01287-00291800-00292151 thank you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01288-00292152-00292479 sani do you want to share your views x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01289-00292480-00292703 so x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01290-00292704-00292919 under this system you know retail x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01291-00292920-00293103 politics x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01292-00293104-00293327 is how things are run and it's all about x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01293-00293328-00293599 numbers but that's not to say that we x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01294-00293600-00293806 you know diversity is not in search it x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01295-00293807-00294030 is not essential it is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01296-00294031-00294254 and i think um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01297-00294255-00294558 uh and that's part of what we try to do x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01298-00294559-00294830 in terms of orientation for candidates x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01299-00294831-00295079 uh you know when you're a community x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01300-00295080-00295303 leader that's great but you come in you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01301-00295304-00295647 need to make sure that you at least you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01302-00295648-00295879 know have an army of 30 people who are x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01303-00295880-00296054 going to eventually going to be your x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01304-00296055-00296263 polling agents for starters so that your x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01305-00296264-00296423 representation x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01306-00296424-00296639 matters in the first instance x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01307-00296640-00296815 having said that you also need to be x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01308-00296816-00296958 very aware that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01309-00296959-00297054 i mean x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01310-00297055-00297223 their x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01311-00297224-00297503 qualifications and status x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01312-00297504-00297654 shouldn't really matter but you need to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01313-00297655-00297982 be mindful at the end point is that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01314-00297983-00298239 you're going into parliament to make x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01315-00298240-00298358 laws x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01316-00298359-00298615 cabinet positions are secondary you're x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01317-00298616-00298782 going in there to make laws so for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01318-00298783-00298943 starters you need to be able to learn x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01319-00298944-00299182 how to read x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01320-00299183-00299447 text and to understand you know about x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01321-00299448-00299630 what's happening and there's a lot of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01322-00299631-00299895 community leaders who have that down pat x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01323-00299896-00300206 it may not be academic it's just x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01324-00300207-00300399 something that comes to them um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01325-00300400-00300582 naturally and the similarly so-called x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01326-00300583-00300767 entrepreneurs who know how to build from x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01327-00300768-00300958 scratch those are the kinds of minds x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01328-00300959-00301206 that we need in parliament but remember x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01329-00301207-00301487 you are fighting to get into parliament x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01330-00301488-00301639 to make laws x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01331-00301640-00302079 thank you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01332-00302080-00302487 dr baker do you want to share your views x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01333-00302488-00302743 um i don't really have much to add x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01334-00302744-00303015 except um from the research that we've x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01335-00303016-00303423 done across the pacific um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01336-00303424-00303695 i think like qualifications are x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01337-00303696-00303910 important in some cases status is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01338-00303911-00304127 important in some cases um but it's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01339-00304128-00304439 really about um showing credibility as a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01340-00304440-00304687 leader and that credibility looks x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01341-00304688-00304982 different depending on on where you are x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01342-00304983-00305215 and who you're looking to represent um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01343-00305216-00305503 so i would probably um put community x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01344-00305504-00305830 service as as higher in terms of what x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01345-00305831-00305975 you need to prove than than x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01346-00305976-00306158 qualifications and status not that those x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01347-00306159-00306447 things aren't necessarily important um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01348-00306448-00306623 but just that um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01349-00306624-00306879 yeah uh proving that you're a capable x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01350-00306880-00307079 and you're a legitimate leader is a lot x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01351-00307080-00307310 broader than that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01352-00307311-00307527 um may i just add something x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01353-00307528-00307710 um go ahead x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01354-00307711-00307943 yeah go ahead i i there was something x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01355-00307944-00308151 saying he did say um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01356-00308152-00308239 when x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01357-00308240-00308510 if you do get through into parliament it x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01358-00308511-00308799 is very important that um uh like you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01359-00308800-00308975 said you're able to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01360-00308976-00309263 to read and uh to at least be able to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01361-00309264-00309582 write uh and to communicate right x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01362-00309583-00309758 because like i mentioned in my x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01363-00309759-00309982 presentation there's a lot of reading to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01364-00309983-00310134 be done there's presentations you need x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01365-00310135-00310303 to make your own speeches you can get x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01366-00310304-00310479 help with that if you like but in most x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01367-00310480-00310623 cases you're doing your own research x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01368-00310624-00310839 you're doing your own writing so these x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01369-00310840-00311015 are the areas that women do need help x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01370-00311016-00311110 and they x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01371-00311111-00311287 it's it's uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01372-00311288-00311487 the one form is to fight the elections x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01373-00311488-00311654 the other one is to get in and the other x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01374-00311655-00311839 one is to how do you take that journey x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01375-00311840-00312039 forward and if you're not equipped for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01376-00312040-00312367 that it becomes quite difficult and even x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01377-00312368-00312575 if you're very capable x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01378-00312576-00312751 it's not translating into where it x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01379-00312752-00312903 should be translating and how it should x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01380-00312904-00313134 be translated that's just x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01381-00313135-00313423 a little adding x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01382-00313424-00313695 okay thank you uh monica x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01383-00313696-00313943 uh saney you raised the issue of how x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01384-00313944-00314158 much of a stumbling block campaign x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01385-00314159-00314423 financing can be x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01386-00314424-00314679 so what are the solutions are there any x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01387-00314680-00314879 ways of overcoming x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01388-00314880-00315134 this major hurdle for female election x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01389-00315135-00315710 candidates x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01390-00315711-00315871 well this is uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01391-00315872-00316158 i'm glad you asked that question and um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01392-00316159-00316391 i before i answer that i just just want x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01393-00316392-00316606 to respond to oria who's just popped up x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01394-00316607-00316767 a question about something i responded x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01395-00316768-00316951 to earlier about whether it's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01396-00316952-00317143 you know apart from being legislators x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01397-00317144-00317247 you need to keep it real with the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01398-00317248-00317487 community that's very valid but in the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01399-00317488-00317703 past uh parliamentary system they used x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01400-00317704-00317943 to give actual allocations to parties x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01401-00317944-00318143 where you could have offices everywhere x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01402-00318144-00318319 to make sure that you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01403-00318320-00318647 kept your pulse on on the issues arising x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01404-00318648-00318854 from constituents so thank you for that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01405-00318855-00319127 comment or that you're quite right now x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01406-00319128-00319254 response to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01407-00319255-00319327 the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01408-00319328-00319606 question about finances x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01409-00319607-00319806 culturally i mean i know for fijian x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01410-00319807-00319958 women x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01411-00319959-00320230 you it's very hard to ask for money for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01412-00320231-00320551 from strangers and to be able to to i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01413-00320552-00320791 think monica mentioned as well to to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01414-00320792-00321030 sell yourself that that you can do x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01415-00321031-00321247 something you know the retail politics x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01416-00321248-00321463 element of it and that's not to say that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01417-00321464-00321630 it's impossible so that's why when i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01418-00321631-00321895 when i made my um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01419-00321896-00322087 when i made my presentation i was hoping x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01420-00322088-00322254 that there could be a space where we x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01421-00322255-00322391 could x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01422-00322392-00322615 help eliminate this barrier x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01423-00322616-00322791 to help women x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01424-00322792-00322919 overcome x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01425-00322920-00323095 the this confidence x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01426-00323096-00323271 this lack of confidence about asking for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01427-00323272-00323519 money because if you don't have money x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01428-00323520-00323751 your your campaign uh capability is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01429-00323752-00323951 going to be very limited now whether x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01430-00323952-00324143 that's training x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01431-00324144-00324223 if x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01432-00324224-00324399 maybe even people who do sales and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01433-00324400-00324599 marketing could be really good mentors x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01434-00324600-00324791 because they can do cold calls and ask x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01435-00324792-00324951 people for money on the phone just like x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01436-00324952-00325047 that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01437-00325048-00325247 it's difficult for people x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01438-00325248-00325487 who are a new entrance in into political x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01439-00325488-00325719 spaces to be able to do that uh there's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01440-00325720-00325927 particular words you can use whether x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01441-00325928-00326119 that's in your your mother tongue or x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01442-00326120-00326223 your x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01443-00326224-00326343 in english x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01444-00326344-00326534 there is a process to how to ask for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01445-00326535-00326727 money and i think that's probably one x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01446-00326728-00327006 gap that we could collectively try and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01447-00327007-00327391 fix together x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01448-00327392-00327575 okay thank you ceni x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01449-00327576-00327743 does anyone else want to add to what x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01450-00327744-00328471 cena has said x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01451-00328472-00328663 okay if not this we have a question here x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01452-00328664-00328943 for dr karen baker from professor vijay x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01453-00328944-00329134 naidu of the university of the south x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01454-00329135-00329351 pacific this is a really interesting x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01455-00329352-00329454 question x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01456-00329455-00329767 uh dr baker can you please explain why x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01457-00329768-00329958 guam kaneki x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01458-00329959-00330319 and mohai nui have more than 50 x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01459-00330320-00330719 representation x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01460-00330720-00330927 and yeah thank you that's a really good x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01461-00330928-00331175 question um in terms of the the french x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01462-00331176-00331510 specific territories um a lot of um it x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01463-00331511-00331743 is to do with gender quotas um because x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01464-00331744-00332023 they have very strict gender quotas um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01465-00332024-00332151 basically x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01466-00332152-00332439 you vote for a party list rather than an x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01467-00332440-00332654 individual candidate and each party on x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01468-00332655-00332903 their party list has to have x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01469-00332904-00333023 zippered x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01470-00333024-00333215 women and men candidates so if you have x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01471-00333216-00333415 a man at number one you've got to have a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01472-00333416-00333623 woman at number two number four number x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01473-00333624-00333934 six all the way down um so that's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01474-00333935-00334039 uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01475-00334040-00334327 um uh like you can't get around that um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01476-00334328-00334510 in new caledonia and french polynesia x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01477-00334511-00334806 and that's why you get um quite gender x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01478-00334807-00335110 equal legislatures um because of that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01479-00335111-00335358 rule and that the strong party system x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01480-00335359-00335678 in guam uh the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01481-00335679-00335751 the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01482-00335752-00335958 high levels of women's representation x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01483-00335959-00336182 are relatively recent um and they don't x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01484-00336183-00336582 have a gender quota um so it's um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01485-00336583-00336806 uh there's a lot of potential reasons x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01486-00336807-00336934 for it um they have very strong x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01487-00336935-00337199 matrilineal traditions in guam they have x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01488-00337200-00337439 strong traditions of women's leadership x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01489-00337440-00337727 um in the community and so that probably x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01490-00337728-00338054 helps um they also have a woman governor x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01491-00338055-00338295 um so having you know women's leadership x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01492-00338296-00338478 at that highest level and that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01493-00338479-00338695 visibility i think is also really x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01494-00338696-00338927 important in encouraging a mormon to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01495-00338928-00339095 come forward and encouraging voters to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01496-00339096-00339254 vote for women um so those are x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01497-00339255-00339575 potentially two parts of it um but um i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01498-00339576-00339854 don't like there's no kind of um one x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01499-00339855-00340095 reason you can point to in guam why the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01500-00340096-00340303 the um the number of women are so high x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01501-00340304-00340478 which suggests you know it could x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01502-00340479-00340615 potentially happen anywhere in the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01503-00340616-00340958 pacific x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01504-00340959-00341175 okay thank you karen for that now i've x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01505-00341176-00341391 got a rather long question but an x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01506-00341392-00341606 interesting question from dr andreas x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01507-00341607-00341806 koff from the university of the south x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01508-00341807-00342063 pacific so please bear with me while i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01509-00342064-00342367 read out this question x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01510-00342368-00342551 we heard that there are two major x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01511-00342552-00342815 challenges for women female election x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01512-00342816-00342951 candidates x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01513-00342952-00343175 one is second to change in the social x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01514-00343176-00343423 perceptions of women's leadership skills x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01515-00343424-00343727 in politics and beyond that is foster x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01516-00343728-00344095 trust in women's skills and capabilities x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01517-00344096-00344271 both challenges x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01518-00344272-00344391 can x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01519-00344392-00344695 can hardly be truly overcome without x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01520-00344696-00344927 challenging gender power structures in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01521-00344928-00345158 society x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01522-00345159-00345503 aka patriarchy with the goals to foster x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01523-00345504-00345743 a new revised social value x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01524-00345744-00345895 and non-base x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01525-00345896-00346191 so how can that be best achieved x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01526-00346192-00346382 i'm aware that this is a large question x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01527-00346383-00346519 discussions have been ongoing for a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01528-00346520-00346791 while but i'd appreciate any ideas from x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01529-00346792-00347327 the panel and or from the audience x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01530-00347328-00347510 so any one of you three can you know x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01531-00347511-00347782 attend this question x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01532-00347783-00347999 how to convince and encourage women to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01533-00348000-00348230 become politically active x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01534-00348231-00348399 and overcome the barriers such as x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01535-00348400-00348687 patriarchy what can be done in concrete x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01536-00348688-00349295 terms what more can be done x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01537-00349296-00349503 he's talking about fostering women's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01538-00349504-00349630 skills x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01539-00349631-00350063 to be capable and strong candidates x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01540-00350064-00350239 is enough being done in these areas you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01541-00350240-00350863 know from a young age x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01542-00350864-00351039 so any one of you three can attend this x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01543-00351040-00351206 you know have a go at this question x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01544-00351207-00351671 first x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01545-00351672-00351895 i i think okay i i guess we're all x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01546-00351896-00352054 looking at each other to say who goes x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01547-00352055-00352182 first x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01548-00352183-00352406 so okay x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01549-00352407-00352639 okay so i i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01550-00352640-00352895 in terms of uh patriarchy i mean first x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01551-00352896-00353063 of all one of the biggest challenges x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01552-00353064-00353327 there is that it's cultural as well and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01553-00353328-00353575 then while you don't want to go you know x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01554-00353576-00353775 charging in with a hardline feminist x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01555-00353776-00353903 view x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01556-00353904-00354103 you know you you are asking for votes x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01557-00354104-00354282 and while you do want x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01558-00354283-00354719 changes you want it to be organic x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01559-00354720-00354799 uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01560-00354800-00355006 and you know you know something that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01561-00355007-00355191 they're feeling from the heart x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01562-00355192-00355319 one thing i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01563-00355320-00355463 i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01564-00355464-00355751 i can suggest is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01565-00355752-00355934 you know the framing and the optics of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01566-00355935-00356278 women and and this is where the media x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01567-00356279-00356478 is very important x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01568-00356479-00356799 uh for example if you're having um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01569-00356800-00356958 media articles x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01570-00356959-00357087 that are x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01571-00357088-00357319 talking about how women's dress sense is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01572-00357320-00357471 in parliament x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01573-00357472-00357743 i don't think that does a lot for women x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01574-00357744-00357975 uh participate for women's active x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01575-00357976-00358206 participation because they're x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01576-00358207-00358406 more than what they're wearing x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01577-00358407-00358695 uh i i think a lot of our female x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01578-00358696-00358854 mps in parliament at the moment do x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01579-00358855-00359078 excellent jobs in in raising the issues x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01580-00359079-00359230 of their constituents x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01581-00359231-00359510 but in terms of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01582-00359511-00359734 it's going to take a while because we x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01583-00359735-00359975 are still very traditionally rooted x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01584-00359976-00360071 still x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01585-00360072-00360191 culture x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01586-00360192-00360575 plays a big game in in how politics is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01587-00360576-00360710 practiced x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01588-00360711-00360991 but you know for example if media could x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01589-00360992-00361134 be a bit more x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01590-00361135-00361295 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01591-00361296-00361654 assistive perhaps to framing women in a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01592-00361655-00361871 life that is more positive and things x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01593-00361872-00362071 that they bring to the table and things x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01594-00362072-00362278 that they articulate i think that would x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01595-00362279-00362575 be a very good first start the other x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01596-00362576-00362910 thing also is social media uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01597-00362911-00363199 i mean that in itself is uh uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01598-00363200-00363334 an issue that is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01599-00363335-00363567 rife with with x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01600-00363568-00363919 uh debate uh but a lot a lot of um times x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01601-00363920-00364082 there are women x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01602-00364083-00364382 politicians or x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01603-00364383-00364839 women involved in politics who get x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01604-00364840-00365095 really x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01605-00365096-00365156 appalling x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01606-00365157-00365287 [Music] x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01607-00365288-00365454 stuff written about them you know x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01608-00365455-00365606 whether that's true or not that's a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01609-00365607-00365799 whole other debate but x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01610-00365800-00365975 i i think a lot of that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01611-00365976-00366278 would probably need to start from homes x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01612-00366279-00366454 and then of course from schools about x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01613-00366455-00366606 what is appropriate x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01614-00366607-00366823 uh and of course again you know the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01615-00366824-00367134 media would be a very valuable platform x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01616-00367135-00367263 for raising x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01617-00367264-00367495 women's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01618-00367496-00367823 optics in a more positive light x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01619-00367824-00368143 thank you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01620-00368144-00368343 thank you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01621-00368344-00368815 monika do you want to add to that please x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01622-00368816-00368927 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01623-00368928-00369103 maybe um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01624-00369104-00369230 look what x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01625-00369231-00369415 what's happened in our case in our party x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01626-00369416-00369551 is that um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01627-00369552-00369919 i i in 2006 we had 31 women candidates x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01628-00369920-00370095 standing and only two of us come to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01629-00370096-00370239 parliament x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01630-00370240-00370519 um so and we also found like saying said x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01631-00370520-00370695 again media x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01632-00370696-00370895 in how they x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01633-00370896-00370975 uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01634-00370976-00371319 are able to use the space they have x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01635-00371320-00371543 pre-election or during election x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01636-00371544-00371791 uh to be able to um i think they've done x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01637-00371792-00371927 that i'm not going to say that they x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01638-00371928-00372127 haven't tried or attempted they have had x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01639-00372128-00372319 pages some of them some of the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01640-00372320-00372558 have had pages are representing x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01641-00372559-00372854 and uh talking about uh candidates for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01642-00372855-00372999 week or per x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01643-00373000-00373127 day or something like that they were x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01644-00373128-00373327 doing that so i wouldn't just say that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01645-00373328-00373615 they um haven't totally but yes i do x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01646-00373616-00373799 agree um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01647-00373800-00374047 media is one social media is another one x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01648-00374048-00374351 parties themselves uh can put in um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01649-00374352-00374487 more emphasis on women and their x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01650-00374488-00374671 training and i think we've had feminine x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01651-00374672-00374887 come up who have done tremendous job x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01652-00374888-00375039 trying to get the women's view before x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01653-00375040-00375343 the elections we've also had um if i'm x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01654-00375344-00375606 not mistaken idea international have x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01655-00375607-00375847 done training on the different formats x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01656-00375848-00376095 that have been used in election x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01657-00376096-00376230 but then again x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01658-00376231-00376351 coverage x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01659-00376352-00376527 and also x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01660-00376528-00376743 i think i mentioned in my presentation x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01661-00376744-00376919 some women are x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01662-00376920-00377143 probably very good in in the discussion x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01663-00377144-00377439 at a discussion in a table at a table x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01664-00377440-00377710 or within their their caucus x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01665-00377711-00378127 but they may not be all that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01666-00378128-00378430 they may not be at ease speaking at a in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01667-00378431-00378591 a general form x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01668-00378592-00378791 so there are a lot of things that women x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01669-00378792-00378975 need to go through uh in terms of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01670-00378976-00379119 training and being able to articulate x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01671-00379120-00379230 themselves x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01672-00379231-00379471 um yeah so it's not only just training x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01673-00379472-00379639 it's also the platforms that they x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01674-00379640-00379919 require or they can be given to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01675-00379920-00380006 uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01676-00380007-00380310 to you know to express themselves x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01677-00380311-00380510 thank you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01678-00380511-00380719 thank you monika x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01679-00380720-00380943 dr baker have you got any insights from x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01680-00380944-00381054 your research x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01681-00381055-00381278 into this issue x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01682-00381279-00381519 um well i would just support the um the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01683-00381520-00381654 excellent ideas that have been put x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01684-00381655-00382039 forward so far um i'd also i guess x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01685-00382040-00382182 the main thing is that you can't x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01686-00382183-00382287 separate x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01687-00382288-00382358 a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01688-00382359-00382591 woman's political representation and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01689-00382592-00382887 leadership from issues of gender x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01690-00382888-00383182 equality more broadly it's all part of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01691-00383183-00383478 the same process and just having a woman x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01692-00383479-00383671 in politics if you don't make any x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01693-00383672-00384047 changes um to um to society more broadly x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01694-00384048-00384343 um won't help um you've got to do it all x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01695-00384344-00384527 um you know having x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01696-00384528-00384606 this x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01697-00384607-00384806 woman having women in politics is one x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01698-00384807-00385039 part of the solution it's not the whole x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01699-00385040-00385430 solution um so keeping that kind of um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01700-00385431-00385663 that holistic mindset i guess is really x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01701-00385664-00385847 important x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01702-00385848-00386054 thank you dr baker we have a follow-up x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01703-00386055-00386151 question x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01704-00386152-00386327 from lina x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01705-00386328-00386487 of idea x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01706-00386488-00386719 and the question is could public funding x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01707-00386720-00386934 of political parties x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01708-00386935-00387151 and election campaigns be part of the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01709-00387152-00387334 solution x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01710-00387335-00387558 should funding be amount for female x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01711-00387559-00387734 candidates x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01712-00387735-00387951 this is public funding x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01713-00387952-00388223 should they receive a subsidy x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01714-00388224-00388582 a state subsidy x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01715-00388583-00389263 uh maybe we will go with monika first x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01716-00389264-00389454 i think particularly with the with the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01717-00389455-00389743 percentages we do have it would be good x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01718-00389744-00390127 to have that um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01719-00390128-00390223 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01720-00390224-00390367 because it would be helpful i think x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01721-00390368-00390567 there was i can't remember that right x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01722-00390568-00390927 now offhand but it was one of the um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01723-00390928-00391367 ngos um it was one of the ngos that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01724-00391368-00391695 was supporting the was it uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01725-00391696-00391910 hemlink no was one of them that actually x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01726-00391911-00392095 came forward and they were raising funds x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01727-00392096-00392302 or they were able to find funds to help x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01728-00392303-00392527 women actually run the campaign this was x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01729-00392528-00392815 some years ago i i can't quite remember x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01730-00392816-00392975 how that went but x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01731-00392976-00393287 yes women do need help yes if they is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01732-00393288-00393447 some allocation but how that's going to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01733-00393448-00393823 work i don't know but maybe maybe uh you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01734-00393824-00393999 know as mentioned as soon as you have x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01735-00394000-00394199 your your candidates lined up and you do x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01736-00394200-00394310 have x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01737-00394311-00394543 the women there maybe uh collective x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01738-00394544-00394799 funding could be uh put forward to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01739-00394800-00394943 uh for the training it it's very x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01740-00394944-00395175 important for the training because um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01741-00395176-00395367 without the training it can get really x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01742-00395368-00395534 really difficult for women to figure out x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01743-00395535-00395775 um to feel their way around also they x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01744-00395776-00395982 need that support you can't just send x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01745-00395983-00396151 them out there and expect them to know x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01746-00396152-00396382 exactly what to do um in our parties we x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01747-00396383-00396534 have training sessions x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01748-00396535-00396671 as soon as the candidates come and i'm x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01749-00396672-00396815 sure all the parties do that you have x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01750-00396816-00396951 training sessions x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01751-00396952-00397247 and in my case we had x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01752-00397248-00397406 we had a management board we had our x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01753-00397407-00397654 senior senior members who would come x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01754-00397655-00397910 with me along to campaigns to assist me x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01755-00397911-00398158 and to do sort of if you like hold your x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01756-00398159-00398343 hand for a little while until you are x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01757-00398344-00398623 good to go to move on on your own so you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01758-00398624-00398806 get to party support by getting uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01759-00398807-00399047 public support or funding from it to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01760-00399048-00399263 assist all the women across the board x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01761-00399264-00399439 actually not just the women the men as x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01762-00399440-00399615 well because many of them also need that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01763-00399616-00399871 assistance to actually x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01764-00399872-00400063 know what to do once they're left out x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01765-00400064-00400167 there x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01766-00400168-00400558 so yeah that's going to take thanks x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01767-00400559-00401287 thank you monica we'll go with zany next x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01768-00401288-00401423 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01769-00401424-00401599 sorry could you just remind me what the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01770-00401600-00401806 question was again i'm sorry x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01771-00401807-00401967 no worries i can't believe the question x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01772-00401968-00402151 could public funding of political x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01773-00402152-00402447 parties and election campaigns be part x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01774-00402448-00402815 of the solution that is state subsidies x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01775-00402816-00403063 for female candidates not just to help x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01776-00403064-00403327 the election campaigns but also to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01777-00403328-00403558 address some of the root causes of the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01778-00403559-00403863 problem of female backwardness uh what x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01779-00403864-00404158 dr andreas raised in his earlier x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01780-00404159-00404302 question x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01781-00404303-00404599 okay so x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01782-00404600-00404830 what i understand happens now is that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01783-00404831-00405102 the political parties do get funding x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01784-00405103-00405254 from parliament x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01785-00405255-00405454 uh which only but that depends on how x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01786-00405455-00405654 many seats that they have and that is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01787-00405655-00405927 not segmented by gender or it's you know x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01788-00405928-00406230 left for the party to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01789-00406231-00406415 to to manage x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01790-00406416-00406678 uh for their parliamentary work x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01791-00406679-00406895 but uh so x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01792-00406896-00407143 perhaps that's a good idea then that if x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01793-00407144-00407334 absurd if we do get x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01794-00407335-00407558 allocations given from the state right x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01795-00407559-00407639 now x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01796-00407640-00407782 uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01797-00407783-00407982 maybe we should carve off a bit of it to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01798-00407983-00408167 make sure that we lift up x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01799-00408168-00408478 women's uh representation however x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01800-00408479-00408782 it doesn't cater for other parties not x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01801-00408783-00408999 in parliament and to get women ready x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01802-00409000-00409134 right now x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01803-00409135-00409391 so if x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01804-00409392-00409575 if state funding could be given that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01805-00409576-00409774 would be ideal x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01806-00409775-00410070 for sure x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01807-00410071-00410270 the mechanics of it of course is always x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01808-00410271-00410734 going to be the challenge x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01809-00410735-00410966 thank you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01810-00410967-00411143 next we have a really interesting x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01811-00411143-00411374 question from dr avinash kumar the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01812-00411375-00411599 university of the south pacific x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01813-00411600-00411839 this question is first for monica and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01814-00411839-00412022 then for ceni x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01815-00412023-00412174 and the question is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01816-00412175-00412422 given that there are only a few women in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01817-00412423-00412582 pacific parliaments x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01818-00412583-00412751 to what extent x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01819-00412752-00413078 do the man mps represent women's views x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01820-00413079-00413263 in parliament x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01821-00413264-00413607 are male mps aware of the women's issues x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01822-00413608-00413855 and do they represent this fairly and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01823-00413856-00414239 adequately in parliament x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01824-00414239-00414678 monika first and then say x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01825-00414679-00414910 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01826-00414912-00415087 look i've not been in parliament for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01827-00415088-00415263 quite some time right now but um and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01828-00415264-00415430 neither have i been actually listening x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01829-00415431-00415839 to everything but um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01830-00415839-00416103 you know so i'm not really in a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01831-00416104-00416207 when x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01832-00416208-00416447 but i do okay put it this way x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01833-00416447-00416655 when we had issues when we had uh things x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01834-00416656-00416887 that we needed to sort out uh and we had x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01835-00416888-00417230 a male uh minister or somebody they x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01836-00417231-00417366 would actually say look we've got x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01837-00417367-00417582 solutions to that problem x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01838-00417583-00417807 um and if you want we can sit down and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01839-00417808-00417926 talk about it i've seen your x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01840-00417927-00418087 presentation i've seen i've seen your x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01841-00418088-00418391 requests come into my office uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01842-00418392-00418663 to do with you know a particular thing i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01843-00418664-00418799 go you know and they would say we could x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01844-00418800-00418959 sit and talk about it x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01845-00418960-00419159 um also if there were things that we x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01846-00419160-00419366 needed to say we could take it to one of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01847-00419367-00419607 the mps at that point in time to say x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01848-00419608-00419791 look this is what it is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01849-00419792-00420022 when i was um in parliament for the six x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01850-00420023-00420270 months a lot of things uh what what had x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01851-00420271-00420495 happened is that all the women mpps got x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01852-00420496-00420614 together x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01853-00420615-00420870 and they had begun a group uh that would x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01854-00420871-00421039 uh look at all the women's issues and i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01855-00421039-00421199 had somebody come over from sudop and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01856-00421200-00421391 just said to me uh not so that but was x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01857-00421392-00421527 this dale that time and just said look x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01858-00421528-00421814 if you women can agree on things you we x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01859-00421815-00422039 will support you it was just as simple x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01860-00422039-00422151 as that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01861-00422152-00422470 if you women can um agree on things we x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01862-00422471-00422775 will support you it was to me that that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01863-00422776-00423055 sort of spelled out a lot of things so x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01864-00423056-00423279 if um instead of taking things in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01865-00423280-00423543 fragments or in portions uh you know x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01866-00423543-00423735 each women parliamentarian trying to do x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01867-00423735-00423927 their own when it came into a group x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01868-00423928-00424135 formation and we sat and discussed x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01869-00424135-00424399 things we could take it forward quickly x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01870-00424400-00424566 and uh because most of the issues are x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01871-00424567-00424670 similar x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01872-00424671-00424951 so i do believe that um um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01873-00424952-00425151 to a certain extent or to to a large x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01874-00425152-00425463 extent if you we spoke to our male mps x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01875-00425464-00425599 they did x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01876-00425600-00425751 i can't speak for what's happening right x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01877-00425752-00426207 now um but definitely during that time x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01878-00426208-00426375 thank you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01879-00426376-00426599 thank you monica staney what are your x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01880-00426600-00426791 views x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01881-00426792-00427095 uh thank you dr singh so um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01882-00427096-00427318 in terms of how we do things and and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01883-00427319-00427527 ensuring that there's a gender lens in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01884-00427528-00427766 how we are advocating issues we have a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01885-00427767-00427895 very x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01886-00427896-00428183 uh robust parliamentary caucus system x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01887-00428184-00428303 where we x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01888-00428304-00428543 we try and bring in the issues that are x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01889-00428543-00428710 arriving from x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01890-00428712-00428831 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01891-00428832-00429039 voters who are bringing them up bringing x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01892-00429039-00429239 issues up with their representatives our x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01893-00429239-00429407 three representatives x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01894-00429408-00429591 and then we uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01895-00429592-00429807 so x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01896-00429808-00429991 i think for us it's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01897-00429992-00430175 mainly because i think i think we have x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01898-00430176-00430359 two women x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01899-00430360-00430527 and so that uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01900-00430528-00430822 gender lens is is kind of automatic and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01901-00430823-00431135 we're women who uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01902-00431135-00431518 can be very vocal as well uh so and just x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01903-00431519-00431727 to give an example we had a question by x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01904-00431728-00431951 honorable lenora uh that was not there x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01905-00431952-00432127 was disallowed in the last parliament x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01906-00432128-00432335 where she was asked to ask a question x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01907-00432335-00432599 about women with women uh market vendors x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01908-00432600-00432839 in nolsori who were prevented x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01909-00432839-00432983 from selling their produce inside and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01910-00432984-00433135 had to sell their produce near the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01911-00433135-00433366 public toilets and of course that got x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01912-00433367-00433510 you know that question was not allowed x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01913-00433512-00433735 to be asked but you know for issues like x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01914-00433735-00433831 that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01915-00433832-00434063 it's not even a gender issue it's a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01916-00434064-00434287 dignity issue why would you want to sell x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01917-00434288-00434543 produce outside near the toilets so i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01918-00434543-00434710 think we're x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01919-00434712-00434799 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01920-00434800-00435047 we have a very strong parliamentary x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01921-00435047-00435255 caucus system where x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01922-00435256-00435414 we talk through these issues before x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01923-00435415-00435543 every parliamentary sitting and then x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01924-00435543-00435766 before we have to file the questions x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01925-00435767-00435855 and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01926-00435856-00436143 if i could just give a quick shout out x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01927-00436143-00436343 to to young people who want x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01928-00436343-00436551 to get involved in politics x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01929-00436552-00436727 this is the time even if you're still x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01930-00436728-00436983 thinking about in the distant future x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01931-00436984-00437166 join the political party so you can x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01932-00437167-00437343 understand how the structure of how x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01933-00437343-00437566 things work because it's not just going x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01934-00437567-00437799 into parliament uh you know advocating x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01935-00437800-00437966 for issues there are actually you know x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01936-00437967-00438255 stringent party procedures and systems x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01937-00438256-00438510 that you have to be disciplined about x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01938-00438512-00438718 before you can actually advocate so i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01939-00438719-00438847 would really encourage x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01940-00438847-00439110 i'm sure monica would x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01941-00439112-00439295 i don't want to speak for flp but i'm x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01942-00439296-00439470 sure that's something that you know we'd x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01943-00439471-00439663 encourage young young women to get x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01944-00439664-00439822 involved with the party structures now x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01945-00439823-00439991 not just as the youth wing but actively x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01946-00439992-00440366 become involved with how x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01947-00440367-00440655 the mechanics of the parties uh work x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01948-00440656-00440879 thank you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01949-00440880-00441031 so it seems that there is another x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01950-00441032-00441318 problem area and we have a follow-up x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01951-00441319-00441583 question a related question from bill x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01952-00441584-00441718 navato x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01953-00441719-00441863 who says x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01954-00441864-00442127 there is a big gap between policy makers x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01955-00442128-00442439 and women in grassroots communities x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01956-00442439-00442639 how can we balance the system in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01957-00442639-00442983 ensuring a coherent representation at x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01958-00442984-00443207 national level in line with the no one x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01959-00443208-00443631 is left behind bill x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01960-00443632-00443895 so let's go with uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01961-00443896-00444239 monica first x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01962-00444239-00444327 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01963-00444328-00444507 look with the current system x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01964-00444508-00444703 unfortunately um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01965-00444704-00444879 you know you have the one x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01966-00444880-00445022 one boundary x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01967-00445023-00445231 so even if you're voting for somebody x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01968-00445232-00445447 you really can't uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01969-00445447-00445622 you know if you're in an area you don't x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01970-00445623-00445763 have a real x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01971-00445764-00445975 representation you know you don't have a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01972-00445976-00446063 real x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01973-00446064-00446279 a rep who you can actually go up to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01974-00446280-00446479 and talk to but there are structures in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01975-00446480-00446766 place in communities x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01976-00446767-00447039 particularly with the uh in the uh you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01977-00447039-00447295 know the different uh uh if you like x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01978-00447296-00447455 ethnical um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01979-00447456-00447647 groups there are structures you have x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01980-00447647-00447799 whether it is you know the church x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01981-00447800-00448014 whether it's a manly whether it's the uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01982-00448015-00448191 the matangali whether there are x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01983-00448192-00448295 structures x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01984-00448296-00448559 and uh many of these structures work and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01985-00448560-00448783 they're able to take up uh they have x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01986-00448784-00449014 leaders who actually can bring these up x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01987-00449015-00449103 up to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01988-00449104-00449295 the necessary forums x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01989-00449296-00449495 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01990-00449496-00449791 but again uh from by the time it gets x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01991-00449792-00449910 from where x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01992-00449912-00450110 you know you've got the questions to the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01993-00450112-00450310 policy makers um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01994-00450312-00450503 some things get lost in transition x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01995-00450504-00450647 sometimes x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01996-00450647-00450870 so um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01997-00450871-00451087 if you really want something done you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01998-00451088-00451279 need to get that connectivity going and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-01999-00451280-00451527 you need to follow it through x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02000-00451528-00451759 um that's the only way i i can sort of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02001-00451760-00451983 uh you know say if you do want it from x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02002-00451984-00452183 to go from grassroot level to the policy x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02003-00452184-00452366 or to the table you need to follow it x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02004-00452367-00452510 through and you need to find somebody x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02005-00452512-00452727 who can help you through it x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02006-00452728-00452839 thank you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02007-00452839-00453014 thank you monica sadie do you want to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02008-00453015-00453222 head to that x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02009-00453223-00453479 yeah so i i think because of the the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02010-00453480-00453791 covert situation and the lockdowns uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02011-00453792-00453999 our mps have been quite limited in their x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02012-00454000-00454375 ability to to go out uh and and talk to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02013-00454376-00454670 you know the rural uh the constituents x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02014-00454671-00454887 and voters out there and we used to try x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02015-00454888-00455055 and do that regularly x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02016-00455056-00455318 uh even with uh constrained x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02017-00455319-00455391 uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02018-00455392-00455510 funds x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02019-00455512-00455663 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02020-00455664-00455879 technology is a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02021-00455880-00456039 little solution but it's nothing like x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02022-00456039-00456239 pressing the flesh you know holding x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02023-00456239-00456455 hands and and actually x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02024-00456456-00456575 having x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02025-00456576-00456847 those facebook discussions x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02026-00456847-00456927 uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02027-00456928-00457159 i remember way before i got involved in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02028-00457160-00457447 politics um uh when x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02029-00457447-00457655 mick bedos was a politician x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02030-00457656-00457814 he always used to and that was because x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02031-00457815-00458070 he was given you know in those days they x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02032-00458071-00458231 were given a parliamentary allocation x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02033-00458232-00458455 for constituency visits so he would put x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02034-00458456-00458759 up uh ads in the paper i'm coming here x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02035-00458760-00458839 some x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02036-00458839-00459175 or constituency visit and it was x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02037-00459176-00459310 what struck me about it was that the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02038-00459312-00459487 regularity of how we put out those x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02039-00459488-00459655 notices x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02040-00459656-00459847 so that's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02041-00459847-00460127 one way of trying to ensure that the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02042-00460128-00460422 grassroots concerns are echoing up uh to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02043-00460423-00460575 the policy and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02044-00460576-00460727 parliament level x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02045-00460728-00460999 uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02046-00461000-00461199 so x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02047-00461200-00461414 if there were uh you know we've got x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02048-00461415-00461607 we're trying to do the best uh that we x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02049-00461608-00461855 can under this uh these situations but x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02050-00461856-00462222 um ideally and i think uh there were x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02051-00462223-00462455 earlier discussions about having x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02052-00462456-00462710 party offices we are required by law to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02053-00462712-00462951 have party a party presence in four x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02054-00462952-00463079 divisions x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02055-00463080-00463270 of the one constituency x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02056-00463271-00463495 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02057-00463496-00463807 but you know it's so large and to be x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02058-00463808-00464070 able to make sure that those offices are x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02059-00464071-00464335 running well uh and meant to be able to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02060-00464335-00464559 receive the issues from the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02061-00464560-00464695 from the constituents and from the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02062-00464696-00465022 voters uh i think if there's more uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02063-00465023-00465310 allocation given to to political parties x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02064-00465312-00465470 through the elections office like they x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02065-00465471-00465695 do in australia i believe x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02066-00465696-00465895 i think that would be would be x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02067-00465896-00466263 very beneficial x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02068-00466264-00466463 okay thank you naisi okay this is the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02069-00466464-00466679 final question from me first for dr x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02070-00466680-00466775 baker x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02071-00466776-00467007 and then monica and then unesco i want x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02072-00467008-00467199 to discuss the role of the news media x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02073-00467200-00467470 which can make or break candidates in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02074-00467471-00467710 any election around 10 years ago i x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02075-00467712-00468007 supervised an m.a theses on print media x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02076-00468008-00468263 coverage of female candidates in two x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02077-00468264-00468439 fiji elections x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02078-00468439-00468670 and the student sergio's monster did a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02079-00468671-00468831 really good job x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02080-00468832-00469014 she found that female candidates were x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02081-00469015-00469366 not only invisible but also stereotyped x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02082-00469367-00469527 so they are the disadvantage right from x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02083-00469528-00469655 the beginning x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02084-00469656-00469855 now the findings were not entirely x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02085-00469856-00469983 surprising x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02086-00469984-00470207 we know that this problem exists and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02087-00470208-00470551 that it's a worldwide phenomenon x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02088-00470552-00470799 okay so in my opinion it's a serious x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02089-00470800-00471055 problem but an understated one and an x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02090-00471056-00471295 ignored problem in the pacific x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02091-00471296-00471575 so my question to the three speakers is x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02092-00471576-00471727 i mean are you able to comment on this x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02093-00471728-00471822 problem x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02094-00471823-00472039 how big is it in your opinion and how x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02095-00472039-00472455 can it be addressed x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02096-00472456-00472703 dr baker first x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02097-00472704-00473047 sure um it is a huge problem and i'm x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02098-00473047-00473343 just adding on to that um so there was a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02099-00473343-00473503 um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02100-00473504-00473743 a question from facebook on the role of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02101-00473743-00474022 social media as well which is another um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02102-00474023-00474407 aspect of this um and um how women x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02103-00474408-00474599 candidates and women politicians are x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02104-00474600-00475031 treated um on social media um but x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02105-00475032-00475255 yeah like you said um in both of these x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02106-00475256-00475422 cases the kind of more traditional media x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02107-00475423-00475679 and social media um this isn't a fiji x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02108-00475680-00475918 issue or a pacific issue um it's found x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02109-00475919-00476118 all over the world and it's an ongoing x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02110-00476119-00476255 challenge and i'm not sure anyone's x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02111-00476256-00476535 really managed to solve it um i would x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02112-00476535-00476614 say x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02113-00476615-00476814 like there's probably opportunities x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02114-00476815-00477103 given how um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02115-00477104-00477383 under-resourced a lot of the media x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02116-00477384-00477670 outlets are across the pacific for um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02117-00477671-00477951 women candidates to be really proactive x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02118-00477952-00478127 and say you know here's so here's a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02119-00478128-00478439 story um here's some um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02120-00478439-00478799 some news um trying to um to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02121-00478800-00479087 get more publicity um that way um but x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02122-00479088-00479279 that doesn't solve the kind of the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02123-00479280-00479479 overarching um i think this is a really x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02124-00479480-00479759 common theme um in today's seminar um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02125-00479760-00480055 the kind of social norms that shape how x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02126-00480056-00480335 women are in politics are perceived and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02127-00480335-00480470 we see that coming through on social x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02128-00480471-00480631 media we see that coming through um in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02129-00480632-00480831 the more traditional media outlets and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02130-00480832-00481039 that's a much bigger problem much more x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02131-00481039-00481399 difficult to solve x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02132-00481400-00481591 thank you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02133-00481592-00481918 monica your turn um look i agree with x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02134-00481919-00482135 what she said um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02135-00482135-00482431 if i just may say um something um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02136-00482432-00482614 with everything there's a start if you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02137-00482615-00482831 look at our parliaments way back in the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02138-00482832-00483014 70s we didn't have that much that many x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02139-00483015-00483231 women representing us but they were good x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02140-00483232-00483503 they're quality women um and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02141-00483504-00483679 over the period of time we've had x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02142-00483680-00483879 increases women had to fight their way x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02143-00483880-00484135 like you know like everything else x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02144-00484135-00484359 and i believe that um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02145-00484360-00484679 those that started off you know set a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02146-00484680-00484927 benchmark those that have x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02147-00484928-00485175 continued that are trying they're also x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02148-00485176-00485479 setting or or setting a path if you like x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02149-00485480-00485799 and uh i think sooner or later um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02150-00485800-00485966 you will have women who would take an x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02151-00485967-00486183 interest to know it's it's a deciding x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02152-00486184-00486399 fact on which direction you want to see x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02153-00486400-00486591 your country go if you have a vision if x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02154-00486592-00486783 you want to be part of a vision then you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02155-00486784-00487007 need to stand up and make yourself known x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02156-00487008-00487207 and be counted accountability of a x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02157-00487208-00487422 person so we have a lot of women who've x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02158-00487423-00487727 got a lot to um to give x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02159-00487728-00488007 yes like the same stereotype yes again x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02160-00488008-00488270 it's it's your audience um how they're x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02161-00488271-00488455 going to perceive you how they want to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02162-00488456-00488670 see you at the end of the day x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02163-00488671-00488862 all of that does it matter to the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02164-00488863-00489118 candidate yes to a certain extent know x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02165-00489119-00489366 if you're wanting to just um trailblaze x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02166-00489367-00489566 if you just want to keep going do what x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02167-00489567-00489751 you have to do to get where you need to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02168-00489752-00489870 get to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02169-00489871-00490095 that's just what i'd like to add x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02170-00490096-00490407 thanks x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02171-00490408-00490743 you have the last say today x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02172-00490743-00490910 lucky me x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02173-00490912-00491214 so uh in terms of your your research x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02174-00491215-00491431 about you know women being invisible in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02175-00491432-00491807 the media um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02176-00491808-00492014 i i'd say that there are two elements to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02177-00492015-00492191 that first in terms of the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02178-00492192-00492391 newsworthiness of what women are saying x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02179-00492392-00492599 and that's those are judgment calls by x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02180-00492600-00492935 by the newsrooms um i think there's also x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02181-00492935-00493262 maybe a space there for for female x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02182-00493263-00493479 candidates to to be given training about x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02183-00493480-00493639 how to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02184-00493639-00493847 um articulate issues to make it x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02185-00493847-00494014 newsworthy and that that's a skill in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02186-00494015-00494151 itself um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02187-00494152-00494359 so there's probably space therefore for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02188-00494360-00494535 interaction between x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02189-00494535-00494847 parties ngos and and the media the other x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02190-00494847-00495047 issue of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02191-00495047-00495391 why women would be invisible is because x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02192-00495392-00495591 you can be visible but if you advertise x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02193-00495592-00495799 yourself and that costs especially x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02194-00495800-00496031 during campaign season x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02195-00496032-00496270 this price just x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02196-00496271-00496479 increases threefold so there's two x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02197-00496480-00496703 elements to that now x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02198-00496704-00496862 what would be interesting to understand x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02199-00496863-00497166 uh dr singh is the correlation between x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02200-00497167-00497495 your findings of invisible women um x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02201-00497496-00497566 and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02202-00497567-00497791 the seats one because there are a lot of x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02203-00497792-00498087 parties who who do who did have very x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02204-00498088-00498343 good women candidates not necessarily in x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02205-00498343-00498607 the media but they're in parliament now x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02206-00498608-00498703 so x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02207-00498704-00498951 i i suppose i will just round off x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02208-00498952-00499287 with with that thank you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02209-00499288-00499375 thank you x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02210-00499376-00499639 so very interesting an interactive x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02211-00499639-00499814 session has come to an end x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02212-00499815-00500039 in closing our thank our three speakers x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02213-00500039-00500303 for their deep insight into what i would x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02214-00500304-00500559 a really critical issue x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02215-00500560-00500751 your contribution today is putting the x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02216-00500752-00500983 spotlight on a long-standing issue and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02217-00500984-00501231 what i consider an ignored problem x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02218-00501232-00501414 and you know bringing it out and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02219-00501415-00501622 highlighting it is the first step to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02220-00501623-00501831 addressing problems of this nature x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02221-00501832-00502022 hidden problems of this nature x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02222-00502023-00502199 i hope the news media reports this x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02223-00502200-00502455 webinar so it can reach a greater number x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02224-00502456-00502759 of people this is really important x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02225-00502760-00502999 thanks also goes to our audience x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02226-00503000-00503239 as well your participation questions and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02227-00503239-00503470 comments added rigor and value to x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02228-00503471-00503679 today's seminar x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02229-00503680-00503910 our appreciation to the idea team for x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02230-00503912-00504062 creating the space x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02231-00504063-00504366 to discuss issues critical to melanesia x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02232-00504367-00504551 including entrenched problems like x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02233-00504552-00504735 gender inequality x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02234-00504735-00505047 so thank you rajan raychelli vikash and x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02235-00505047-00505183 shonin suga x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02236-00505184-00505551 and adi lena and jenny in canberra x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02237-00505552-00505991 see you all in our next webinar x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02238-00505992-00506239 thank you thank you very much x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02239-00506239-00506414 everyone x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02240-00506415-00506687 hope to see you at the annual forum on x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02241-00506688-00506927 women in politics next month x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02242-00506928-00507214 uh before we go can we have uh x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02243-00507215-00507414 you turning in your video so i can have x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02244-00507415-00507559 a screenshot x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02245-00507560-00508283 for us x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02246-00508284-00508455 hey x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02247-00508456-00508670 hey x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02248-00508671-00508887 sorry raj and i send everyone taking off x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02249-00508888-00509055 too early x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02250-00509056-00509414 it's all right x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02251-00509415-00509631 i think we this is a new way of getting x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02252-00509632-00510055 group photos x0_VdrtZ8Q4-02253-00510056-00510247 i want to 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it covers eleven point four million x1yAD7nHrhE-00006-00001903-00002205 square kilometres four point three eight x1yAD7nHrhE-00007-00002206-00002487 million square miles which is the x1yAD7nHrhE-00008-00002488-00002667 largest Zone in the world x1yAD7nHrhE-00009-00002668-00002876 exceeding the land area of the United x1yAD7nHrhE-00010-00002877-00003369 States according to the FAO in 2005 the x1yAD7nHrhE-00011-00003370-00003627 United States harvested four million x1yAD7nHrhE-00012-00003628-00003863 eight hundred eighty eight thousand six x1yAD7nHrhE-00013-00003864-00004116 hundred twenty-one tons of fish from x1yAD7nHrhE-00014-00004117-00004352 wild fisheries and another four hundred x1yAD7nHrhE-00015-00004353-00004647 seventy-one thousand nine hundred fifty x1yAD7nHrhE-00016-00004648-00005006 eight tons from aquaculture this made x1yAD7nHrhE-00017-00005007-00005220 the United States the fifth leading x1yAD7nHrhE-00018-00005221-00005601 producer of fish after China Peru India x1yAD7nHrhE-00019-00005602-00005856 and Indonesia with three point eight x1yAD7nHrhE-00020-00005857-00006570 percent of the world total x1yAD7nHrhE-00021-00006570-00007130 topic management x1yAD7nHrhE-00022-00007131-00007425 historically fisheries developed in the x1yAD7nHrhE-00023-00007426-00007836 US as each area was settled concern for x1yAD7nHrhE-00024-00007837-00008055 the sustainability of fishery resources x1yAD7nHrhE-00025-00008056-00008475 was evident as early as 1871 when x1yAD7nHrhE-00026-00008476-00008784 Congress wrote that x1yAD7nHrhE-00027-00008785-00009075 the most valuable food fishes of the x1yAD7nHrhE-00028-00009076-00009333 coast and the lakes of the US are x1yAD7nHrhE-00029-00009334-00009615 rapidly diminishing in number to the x1yAD7nHrhE-00030-00009616-00009933 public injury and so as materially to x1yAD7nHrhE-00031-00009934-00010182 affect the interests of trade and x1yAD7nHrhE-00032-00010183-00010456 commerce x1yAD7nHrhE-00033-00010457-00010915 however it was not until 1976 with the x1yAD7nHrhE-00034-00010916-00011128 magnuson-stevens fishery conservation x1yAD7nHrhE-00035-00011129-00011428 and Management Act that the federal x1yAD7nHrhE-00036-00011429-00011668 government began actively managing x1yAD7nHrhE-00037-00011669-00011959 fisheries today Inland Fisheries and x1yAD7nHrhE-00038-00011960-00012208 nearshore marine fisheries are managed x1yAD7nHrhE-00039-00012209-00012526 by state or regional or county fisheries x1yAD7nHrhE-00040-00012527-00012924 commissions state jurisdictions usually x1yAD7nHrhE-00041-00012925-00013294 extend 3 nautical miles 6 kilometres out x1yAD7nHrhE-00042-00013294-00013672 to sea coastal fisheries in the EEZ x1yAD7nHrhE-00043-00013672-00013950 beyond state jurisdictions are the x1yAD7nHrhE-00044-00013951-00014241 responsibility of the federal system the x1yAD7nHrhE-00045-00014241-00014557 primary institutions of the federal x1yAD7nHrhE-00046-00014558-00014841 system are 8 regional fishery management x1yAD7nHrhE-00047-00014843-00015079 councils and the National Marine x1yAD7nHrhE-00048-00015080-00015444 Fisheries Service NMFS also known as x1yAD7nHrhE-00049-00015445-00015913 NOAA Fisheries NMFS works in partnership x1yAD7nHrhE-00050-00015913-00016210 with industry universities and state x1yAD7nHrhE-00051-00016211-00016510 local and tribal agencies to collect x1yAD7nHrhE-00052-00016511-00016894 data about commercial species fisheries x1yAD7nHrhE-00053-00016895-00017188 observers on fishing vessels transmit x1yAD7nHrhE-00054-00017189-00017556 real-time data electronically to NMFS x1yAD7nHrhE-00055-00017557-00017863 NMFS works in partnership with the x1yAD7nHrhE-00056-00017864-00018142 regional fishery management councils to x1yAD7nHrhE-00057-00018143-00018403 prevent overfishing and restore over x1yAD7nHrhE-00058-00018404-00018744 fished stocks objectives are to reduce x1yAD7nHrhE-00059-00018745-00019047 fishing intensity monitor the fisheries x1yAD7nHrhE-00060-00019048-00019294 and implement measures to reduce bycatch x1yAD7nHrhE-00061-00019295-00019765 and protect essential fish habitats NMFS x1yAD7nHrhE-00062-00019766-00020065 as establishing marine protected areas x1yAD7nHrhE-00063-00020066-00020305 and individual fishing quotas and x1yAD7nHrhE-00064-00020306-00020532 implementing ecosystem-based fisheries x1yAD7nHrhE-00065-00020533-00021179 management x1yAD7nHrhE-00066-00021180-00022120 topic wild fisheries x1yAD7nHrhE-00067-00022121-00022675 topic EEZ x1yAD7nHrhE-00068-00022676-00023082 the u.s. EEZ as the largest in the world x1yAD7nHrhE-00069-00023083-00023455 1.7 times the land area of the US and x1yAD7nHrhE-00070-00023456-00023864 includes eight large marine ecosystems x1yAD7nHrhE-00071-00023865-00024352 Northeast US continental shelf Southeast x1yAD7nHrhE-00072-00024353-00025039 US continental shelf Caribbean Sea Gulf x1yAD7nHrhE-00073-00025040-00025493 of Mexico California Current x1yAD7nHrhE-00074-00025494-00026056 insular Pacific Hawaiian Gulf of Alaska x1yAD7nHrhE-00075-00026057-00026648 Eastern Bering Sea x1yAD7nHrhE-00076-00026649-00027549 topic catch profile x1yAD7nHrhE-00077-00027550-00028162 topic nearshore fisheries x1yAD7nHrhE-00078-00028163-00028471 near shore fishing areas consist of x1yAD7nHrhE-00079-00028472-00028754 estuaries and coastal areas that lie x1yAD7nHrhE-00080-00028755-00029114 within 3 nautical miles 6 kilometers of x1yAD7nHrhE-00081-00029114-00029405 the shoreline these are under the x1yAD7nHrhE-00082-00029406-00029651 control of the relevant coastal state x1yAD7nHrhE-00083-00029652-00029930 rather than under federal or NMFS x1yAD7nHrhE-00084-00029931-00030311 control they vary widely in species x1yAD7nHrhE-00085-00030312-00030649 diversity and abundance many species are x1yAD7nHrhE-00086-00030650-00030961 highly prized game fish while others are x1yAD7nHrhE-00087-00030962-00031283 small forage fish used for bait animal x1yAD7nHrhE-00088-00031283-00031664 food and industrial products those of x1yAD7nHrhE-00089-00031664-00031930 greatest interests include invertebrate x1yAD7nHrhE-00090-00031931-00032255 species like crabs shrimps abalones x1yAD7nHrhE-00091-00032256-00032732 clams oysters and scallops many species x1yAD7nHrhE-00092-00032733-00032995 are of unknown status because it is x1yAD7nHrhE-00093-00032996-00033235 difficult to assess their condition x1yAD7nHrhE-00094-00033236-00033574 there are no firm estimates exist for a x1yAD7nHrhE-00095-00033575-00033860 long term potential yield management as x1yAD7nHrhE-00096-00033861-00034105 spread out among the coastal states and x1yAD7nHrhE-00097-00034106-00034304 other local authorities and a x1yAD7nHrhE-00098-00034305-00034546 comprehensive treatment of the fisheries x1yAD7nHrhE-00099-00034547-00034870 has not been attempted traditional x1yAD7nHrhE-00100-00034871-00035080 techniques are usually employed x1yAD7nHrhE-00101-00035081-00035374 including size limits catch limits x1yAD7nHrhE-00102-00035375-00035668 method restrictions and area and time x1yAD7nHrhE-00103-00035669-00036249 closures x1yAD7nHrhE-00104-00036250-00036830 topic coastal fisheries x1yAD7nHrhE-00105-00036831-00037112 the coastal fisheries are the fisheries x1yAD7nHrhE-00106-00037113-00037565 that lie within 200 nautical miles 370 x1yAD7nHrhE-00107-00037566-00037854 kilometers of the coast that defines the x1yAD7nHrhE-00108-00037855-00038160 exclusive economic zone but outside the x1yAD7nHrhE-00109-00038161-00038480 3 nautical miles six kilometers distance x1yAD7nHrhE-00110-00038481-00038804 that defines the nearshore fisheries x1yAD7nHrhE-00111-00038805-00039060 coastal fisheries are under federal x1yAD7nHrhE-00112-00039061-00039435 control in the form of NMFS as well as x1yAD7nHrhE-00113-00039436-00039648 under the control of one of the eight x1yAD7nHrhE-00114-00039649-00040406 regional fishery management councils x1yAD7nHrhE-00115-00040407-00040933 topic northeast x1yAD7nHrhE-00116-00040934-00041204 traditionally the most valued fishery x1yAD7nHrhE-00117-00041205-00041465 for the Northeast region has been ground x1yAD7nHrhE-00118-00041466-00041825 fish however the ground fish especially x1yAD7nHrhE-00119-00041826-00042182 haddock yellowtail flounder and Cod have x1yAD7nHrhE-00120-00042183-00042524 been overfished record-low spawning x1yAD7nHrhE-00121-00042525-00043055 biomass levels occurred in 1993-1994 but x1yAD7nHrhE-00122-00043056-00043394 these are now recovering dogfish and x1yAD7nHrhE-00123-00043395-00043724 skate rebounded in the 1970s while x1yAD7nHrhE-00124-00043725-00044075 ground fish and flounder declined these x1yAD7nHrhE-00125-00044076-00044297 fish are an important part of the x1yAD7nHrhE-00126-00044298-00044546 Georges Bank the next most important x1yAD7nHrhE-00127-00044547-00044858 fishery by value as American Lobster and x1yAD7nHrhE-00128-00044859-00045179 Atlantic sea scallop the Port of New x1yAD7nHrhE-00129-00045180-00045449 Bedford Massachusetts as America's x1yAD7nHrhE-00130-00045450-00045689 number one fishing port with fish x1yAD7nHrhE-00131-00045690-00046135 landings valued at 369 million dollars x1yAD7nHrhE-00132-00046136-00046466 each year there are nearly 50 million x1yAD7nHrhE-00133-00046467-00046853 pounds of sea scallops landed there the x1yAD7nHrhE-00134-00046854-00047111 striped bass was driven to low levels x1yAD7nHrhE-00135-00047112-00047537 early in the 1980s catch restrictions x1yAD7nHrhE-00136-00047538-00047869 were applied in the mid 1980s and by x1yAD7nHrhE-00137-00047870-00048244 1995 this species of fish had recovered x1yAD7nHrhE-00138-00048245-00048560 the region has valuable mollusk x1yAD7nHrhE-00139-00048561-00048914 fisheries to offshore our sea scallops x1yAD7nHrhE-00140-00048915-00049268 surf clams American lobsters and ocean x1yAD7nHrhE-00141-00049269-00049682 Quahog ensure our oysters blue mussels x1yAD7nHrhE-00142-00049683-00050069 blue crabs and clam fisheries these x1yAD7nHrhE-00143-00050070-00050279 fisheries are pretty much fully x1yAD7nHrhE-00144-00050280-00050549 exploited the fisheries in the Northeast x1yAD7nHrhE-00145-00050550-00050813 region are governed mostly by fishery x1yAD7nHrhE-00146-00050814-00051272 management plans FM PS an example of x1yAD7nHrhE-00147-00051273-00051614 successful regulation as the 1994 x1yAD7nHrhE-00148-00051615-00051949 amendment for to the sea scallop FMP x1yAD7nHrhE-00149-00051950-00052298 this set out to control scallop fishing x1yAD7nHrhE-00150-00052299-00052586 effort by not accepting more entrants by x1yAD7nHrhE-00151-00052587-00052826 restricting the time vessels could fish x1yAD7nHrhE-00152-00052827-00053104 each day and by requiring bigger mesh x1yAD7nHrhE-00153-00053105-00053491 sizes on dredges additional protection x1yAD7nHrhE-00154-00053492-00053774 for scallops was given closing parts of x1yAD7nHrhE-00155-00053775-00054066 Georges Bank to ground fish fishing x1yAD7nHrhE-00156-00054067-00054667 the scallops recovered x1yAD7nHrhE-00157-00054669-00055160 topic southeast x1yAD7nHrhE-00158-00055161-00055472 the Southeast region spans the Gulf of x1yAD7nHrhE-00159-00055473-00055772 Mexico the Caribbean Sea and the US x1yAD7nHrhE-00160-00055773-00056174 southeast Atlantic important species are x1yAD7nHrhE-00161-00056175-00056501 men Haden drum croaker invertebrates x1yAD7nHrhE-00162-00056502-00056837 highly migratory species reef fish and x1yAD7nHrhE-00163-00056838-00057119 other nearshore species overfishing of x1yAD7nHrhE-00164-00057120-00057371 King and Spanish mackerel occurred in x1yAD7nHrhE-00165-00057372-00057803 the 1980s regulations were introduced to x1yAD7nHrhE-00166-00057804-00058025 restrict the size amount of catch x1yAD7nHrhE-00167-00058026-00058334 fishing locations and bag limits for x1yAD7nHrhE-00168-00058335-00058555 recreational fishers as well as x1yAD7nHrhE-00169-00058557-00058913 commercial fishers gill nets were banned x1yAD7nHrhE-00170-00058914-00059305 in waters off Florida by 2001 the x1yAD7nHrhE-00171-00059307-00059522 mackerel stocks had bounced back x1yAD7nHrhE-00172-00059523-00059816 menhaden and stone crabs and the three x1yAD7nHrhE-00173-00059816-00060142 major species of shrimp pink brown and x1yAD7nHrhE-00174-00060144-00060557 white are fully exploited spiny lobster x1yAD7nHrhE-00175-00060558-00060896 are overexploited better data as needed x1yAD7nHrhE-00176-00060897-00061141 if stocks are to be assessed accurately x1yAD7nHrhE-00177-00061142-00061514 until 2016 commercial fish farming was x1yAD7nHrhE-00178-00061515-00061780 prohibited in federal waters meaning x1yAD7nHrhE-00179-00061782-00062027 that the Gulf of Mexico was closed to x1yAD7nHrhE-00180-00062028-00062390 the practice NOAA announced in January x1yAD7nHrhE-00181-00062391-00062777 2016 however that companies can now set x1yAD7nHrhE-00182-00062778-00063052 up commercial aquaculture in the Gulf x1yAD7nHrhE-00183-00063053-00063359 this is the first opening of federal x1yAD7nHrhE-00184-00063360-00063655 waters to fish farming which NOAA hopes x1yAD7nHrhE-00185-00063657-00063902 will increase production and reduce the x1yAD7nHrhE-00186-00063903-00064709 USS dependence on foreign fish imports x1yAD7nHrhE-00187-00064710-00065208 Topic Alaska x1yAD7nHrhE-00188-00065209-00065608 Alaska provides rich resources Pacific x1yAD7nHrhE-00189-00065609-00065935 salmon shellfish ground fish flatfish x1yAD7nHrhE-00190-00065936-00066172 Pacific halibut and herring are x1yAD7nHrhE-00191-00066173-00066460 underutilized the salmon species in x1yAD7nHrhE-00192-00066461-00066826 Alaska Chinook coho pink sockeye and x1yAD7nHrhE-00193-00066827-00067111 Chum generally produce good harvest x1yAD7nHrhE-00194-00067112-00067506 though some stocks are declining up to x1yAD7nHrhE-00195-00067507-00067831 1977 foreign fishing controlled the x1yAD7nHrhE-00196-00067832-00068107 ground fish fisheries in Alaska apart x1yAD7nHrhE-00197-00068108-00068335 from Pacific halibut the Aleutian x1yAD7nHrhE-00198-00068336-00068668 Islands a series of over 300 rocky x1yAD7nHrhE-00199-00068669-00069160 islands stretch over 1,000 miles 1600 x1yAD7nHrhE-00200-00069161-00069433 kilometers from southwest Alaska to x1yAD7nHrhE-00201-00069434-00069706 Russia they are home to the largest x1yAD7nHrhE-00202-00069707-00070003 fishing port in the u.s. Dutch Harbor x1yAD7nHrhE-00203-00070004-00070420 the primary target species as Pollock x1yAD7nHrhE-00204-00070421-00070702 but crabs salmon and ground fish are x1yAD7nHrhE-00205-00070703-00071224 also important between 1997 and 2001 x1yAD7nHrhE-00206-00071225-00071473 ground fish were caught by bottom x1yAD7nHrhE-00207-00071474-00071755 trawling a fishing method which destroys x1yAD7nHrhE-00208-00071756-00071986 the habitats of the ground fish the x1yAD7nHrhE-00209-00071987-00072265 ocean floor coral and sponge communities x1yAD7nHrhE-00210-00072266-00072807 in 2005 about 80,000 square kilometers x1yAD7nHrhE-00211-00072808-00073105 30,000 square miles of sea floor around x1yAD7nHrhE-00212-00073106-00073375 the Aleutian Islands were permanently x1yAD7nHrhE-00213-00073376-00073761 closed to destructive fishing gears in x1yAD7nHrhE-00214-00073762-00073885 2008 x1yAD7nHrhE-00215-00073886-00074140 NOAA Fisheries created the Aleutian x1yAD7nHrhE-00216-00074141-00074422 Islands habitat conservation area x1yAD7nHrhE-00217-00074423-00074803 AIH CA most of which is closed to bottom x1yAD7nHrhE-00218-00074804-00075142 trawling at seven hundred twenty-five x1yAD7nHrhE-00219-00075143-00075511 thousand square kilometres 280 thousand x1yAD7nHrhE-00220-00075512-00075874 square miles the aih CA as the largest x1yAD7nHrhE-00221-00075875-00076639 marine protected area in the USA x1yAD7nHrhE-00222-00076640-00077171 topic pacific coast x1yAD7nHrhE-00223-00077172-00077486 on the Pacific coast important species x1yAD7nHrhE-00224-00077487-00077737 our Pacific halibut Pacific salmon x1yAD7nHrhE-00225-00077738-00078043 ground fish pelagic fishes and near x1yAD7nHrhE-00226-00078044-00078400 shore species the stocks are mostly over x1yAD7nHrhE-00227-00078401-00078707 fished or fully exploited x1yAD7nHrhE-00228-00078708-00079011 salmon salmon production has decreased x1yAD7nHrhE-00229-00079012-00079373 since the late 1970s partly due to x1yAD7nHrhE-00230-00079374-00079793 habitat degradation ground fish this x1yAD7nHrhE-00231-00079794-00080091 harvest is dominated by Pacific whiting x1yAD7nHrhE-00232-00080092-00080492 some stocks need rebuilding rockfish can x1yAD7nHrhE-00233-00080493-00080801 live as long as 100 years and grow and x1yAD7nHrhE-00234-00080802-00080992 reproduce very slowly x1yAD7nHrhE-00235-00080993-00081448 this makes stock recovery very slow in x1yAD7nHrhE-00236-00081449-00081810 2004 plans for rebuilding several over x1yAD7nHrhE-00237-00081811-00082187 fished ground fish species were approved x1yAD7nHrhE-00238-00082188-00082549 shellfish shellfish such as crabs clams x1yAD7nHrhE-00239-00082550-00082924 shrimp and abalone sell for high prices x1yAD7nHrhE-00240-00082925-00083186 so their fisheries can be small by x1yAD7nHrhE-00241-00083187-00083575 volume but high by value these fisheries x1yAD7nHrhE-00242-00083576-00083938 are mostly fully exploited recreational x1yAD7nHrhE-00243-00083939-00084226 fishers catch more of some species than x1yAD7nHrhE-00244-00084227-00084469 the commercial fishers x1yAD7nHrhE-00245-00084470-00084761 recovering stocks after decades of x1yAD7nHrhE-00246-00084762-00085082 decline Pacific sardine populations are x1yAD7nHrhE-00247-00085083-00085601 recovering in 2004 the NMFS declared x1yAD7nHrhE-00248-00085602-00085868 that due to reduced harvest and bycatch x1yAD7nHrhE-00249-00085869-00086575 pacific whiting were recovering x1yAD7nHrhE-00250-00086576-00087123 topic western Pacific x1yAD7nHrhE-00251-00087124-00087441 the western Pacific region includes the x1yAD7nHrhE-00252-00087442-00087723 Western and Central Pacific the Hawaiian x1yAD7nHrhE-00253-00087724-00087956 Islands and the islands of the Northern x1yAD7nHrhE-00254-00087957-00088379 Marianas Guam and American Samoa these x1yAD7nHrhE-00255-00088380-00088728 are tropical or subtropical waters they x1yAD7nHrhE-00256-00088729-00089022 have large species diversity but because x1yAD7nHrhE-00257-00089023-00089247 ocean nutrients are not rich x1yAD7nHrhE-00258-00089248-00089612 the sustainable yields as low pelagic x1yAD7nHrhE-00259-00089613-00089962 armor head as the only over fished stock x1yAD7nHrhE-00260-00089963-00090315 ground fish fisheries ground fish such x1yAD7nHrhE-00261-00090316-00090641 as snapper jacks Emperor's and grouper x1yAD7nHrhE-00262-00090642-00090866 are harvested from coral and rock x1yAD7nHrhE-00263-00090867-00091142 habitats mostly around the Hawaiian x1yAD7nHrhE-00264-00091143-00091440 Islands while some stocks are x1yAD7nHrhE-00265-00091441-00091706 underutilized other important species x1yAD7nHrhE-00266-00091707-00092022 have declined to 30% of their earlier x1yAD7nHrhE-00267-00092023-00092251 stock levels x1yAD7nHrhE-00268-00092252-00092481 invertebrate fisheries the main x1yAD7nHrhE-00269-00092482-00092685 invertebrate fisheries are in the x1yAD7nHrhE-00270-00092686-00092957 northwest Hawaiian Islands for slipper x1yAD7nHrhE-00271-00092958-00093338 and spiny lobster this fishery started x1yAD7nHrhE-00272-00093339-00093800 in 1977 peaked in the mid 1980s and then x1yAD7nHrhE-00273-00093801-00094151 declined the decline is thought to stem x1yAD7nHrhE-00274-00094152-00094503 from oceanographic changes some recovery x1yAD7nHrhE-00275-00094504-00094899 has occurred since 1991 due to entry and x1yAD7nHrhE-00276-00094900-00095265 harvest restrictions highly migratory x1yAD7nHrhE-00277-00095266-00095675 species account for a 99% catch in this x1yAD7nHrhE-00278-00095676-00096386 region and are discussed below x1yAD7nHrhE-00279-00096387-00096986 topic hi-c fisheries x1yAD7nHrhE-00280-00096987-00097304 the high seas or international waters x1yAD7nHrhE-00281-00097305-00097574 are the waters outside the jurisdiction x1yAD7nHrhE-00282-00097575-00097997 of the EEZ of any country us distant x1yAD7nHrhE-00283-00097998-00098219 fisheries operate in some of these x1yAD7nHrhE-00284-00098220-00098519 waters alongside other nations beyond x1yAD7nHrhE-00285-00098520-00098795 the jurisdiction of any nations coastal x1yAD7nHrhE-00286-00098796-00099341 fisheries x1yAD7nHrhE-00287-00099342-00099994 topic highly migratory species x1yAD7nHrhE-00288-00099995-00100287 the main commercial species in the high x1yAD7nHrhE-00289-00100288-00100601 seas are the highly migratory species x1yAD7nHrhE-00290-00100602-00100962 these fish make long migrations across x1yAD7nHrhE-00291-00100963-00101209 the high seas and are fished by many x1yAD7nHrhE-00292-00101210-00101623 nations highly migratory fish also x1yAD7nHrhE-00293-00101624-00101853 crossed boundaries without regard for x1yAD7nHrhE-00294-00101854-00102196 international laws in particular they x1yAD7nHrhE-00295-00102197-00102504 enter the EEZ zones of the US which x1yAD7nHrhE-00296-00102505-00102780 means they become important species also x1yAD7nHrhE-00297-00102781-00103189 for u.s. coastal fisheries in the x1yAD7nHrhE-00298-00103190-00103644 atlantic overfished species include tuna x1yAD7nHrhE-00299-00103645-00103927 big i in the atlantic albacore in the x1yAD7nHrhE-00300-00103928-00104164 North Atlantic and bluefin in the West x1yAD7nHrhE-00301-00104165-00104457 Atlantic with yellow fin tuna close to x1yAD7nHrhE-00302-00104458-00104835 being overfished blue marlin white x1yAD7nHrhE-00303-00104836-00105108 marlin and sailfish x1yAD7nHrhE-00304-00105109-00105490 sharks bull dusky big nose night x1yAD7nHrhE-00305-00105491-00105898 Caribbean reef spinner silky tiger lemon x1yAD7nHrhE-00306-00105899-00106252 sand nurse scalloped smooth hammerhead x1yAD7nHrhE-00307-00106253-00106536 and white shark the biomass of swordfish x1yAD7nHrhE-00308-00106538-00106774 in the North Atlantic has increased x1yAD7nHrhE-00309-00106775-00107044 probably due to catch reduction and x1yAD7nHrhE-00310-00107045-00107308 strong recruitment in the Pacific these x1yAD7nHrhE-00311-00107308-00107533 trans boundary fisheries are also x1yAD7nHrhE-00312-00107533-00107791 important to other Pacific Rim nations x1yAD7nHrhE-00313-00107792-00108094 and to u.s. fleets fishing within and x1yAD7nHrhE-00314-00108095-00108249 beyond the EEZ x1yAD7nHrhE-00315-00108250-00108649 the major us catch stock is tuna though x1yAD7nHrhE-00316-00108650-00108958 bill fish swordfish and shark are also x1yAD7nHrhE-00317-00108958-00109303 caught these stocks account for 99 x1yAD7nHrhE-00318-00109304-00109573 percent of the western Pacific regions x1yAD7nHrhE-00319-00109574-00110106 catch x1yAD7nHrhE-00320-00110107-00110599 topic seamounts x1yAD7nHrhE-00321-00110600-00110910 a seamount as a mountain rising from the x1yAD7nHrhE-00322-00110911-00111169 ocean seafloor that does not reach the x1yAD7nHrhE-00323-00111170-00111513 ocean surface they are defined by x1yAD7nHrhE-00324-00111514-00111778 oceanographers as independent features x1yAD7nHrhE-00325-00111779-00112069 that rise at least 1,000 metres above x1yAD7nHrhE-00326-00112070-00112381 the sea floor sea mounts became x1yAD7nHrhE-00327-00112382-00112726 interesting during the 1960s when it was x1yAD7nHrhE-00328-00112727-00112951 discovered that they can maintain large x1yAD7nHrhE-00329-00112952-00113224 stocks of commercially important fishes x1yAD7nHrhE-00330-00113225-00113674 and invertebrates from 1968 to about x1yAD7nHrhE-00331-00113675-00114055 1990 foreign fleets harvested pelagic x1yAD7nHrhE-00332-00114056-00114271 Armour head across sea mounts in the x1yAD7nHrhE-00333-00114272-00114759 Hawaiian Ridge since 1984 fishing has x1yAD7nHrhE-00334-00114760-00115008 been prohibited there so the stock can x1yAD7nHrhE-00335-00115009-00115288 recover generally sea mounts are found x1yAD7nHrhE-00336-00115289-00115564 in the high seas outside the continental x1yAD7nHrhE-00337-00115565-00115825 shelves and outside the jurisdiction of x1yAD7nHrhE-00338-00115826-00116326 any nations EEZ however the US Pacific x1yAD7nHrhE-00339-00116327-00116585 Coast region has an unusually small x1yAD7nHrhE-00340-00116586-00116839 continental shelf while the western x1yAD7nHrhE-00341-00116840-00117118 coast region contains islands with no x1yAD7nHrhE-00342-00117119-00117481 continental shelf as a result there are x1yAD7nHrhE-00343-00117482-00118271 some sea mounts within US jurisdiction x1yAD7nHrhE-00344-00118272-00118851 topic inland fisheries x1yAD7nHrhE-00345-00118852-00119164 fisheries in inland waters of the United x1yAD7nHrhE-00346-00119165-00119401 States are small compared to marine x1yAD7nHrhE-00347-00119402-00119760 fisheries the largest fisheries are the x1yAD7nHrhE-00348-00119761-00119974 landings from the Great Lakes worth x1yAD7nHrhE-00349-00119975-00120379 about 13 million dollars in 2003 with a x1yAD7nHrhE-00350-00120380-00120604 similar amount from the Mississippi x1yAD7nHrhE-00351-00120605-00121024 River Basin this is less than 1% of the x1yAD7nHrhE-00352-00121025-00121773 dollar value of the marine fisheries x1yAD7nHrhE-00353-00121774-00122303 topic fishing fleet x1yAD7nHrhE-00354-00122304-00122657 until the late 19th century the u.s. x1yAD7nHrhE-00355-00122658-00123047 fishing fleet used sailing vessels by x1yAD7nHrhE-00356-00123048-00123365 the early 20th century fishing vessels x1yAD7nHrhE-00357-00123366-00123608 were built as steam boats with steam x1yAD7nHrhE-00358-00123608-00123883 engines or as schooners with Auxiliary x1yAD7nHrhE-00359-00123884-00124355 gasoline engines by the 1930s the fleet x1yAD7nHrhE-00360-00124356-00124601 was almost completely converted to x1yAD7nHrhE-00361-00124602-00124973 diesel vessels fishing gear became more x1yAD7nHrhE-00362-00124974-00125291 technical Alaska / sailors were in use x1yAD7nHrhE-00363-00125292-00125685 by 1870 long liners were introduced in x1yAD7nHrhE-00364-00125686-00126032 1885 otter trolls were operating in the x1yAD7nHrhE-00365-00126033-00126275 ground fish and shrimp fisheries by the x1yAD7nHrhE-00366-00126276-00126727 early 20th century in the late 1960s x1yAD7nHrhE-00367-00126728-00126995 factory ships from other countries x1yAD7nHrhE-00368-00126996-00127289 started fishing haddock herring salmon x1yAD7nHrhE-00369-00127290-00127592 and halibut on traditional US fishing x1yAD7nHrhE-00370-00127593-00127838 grounds technological advances have x1yAD7nHrhE-00371-00127839-00128057 played an important role in the x1yAD7nHrhE-00372-00128058-00128372 development of US fisheries x1yAD7nHrhE-00373-00128373-00128664 increases in size and speed allowed x1yAD7nHrhE-00374-00128665-00129018 vessels to fish in more distant waters x1yAD7nHrhE-00375-00129019-00129319 advances include double trawls the x1yAD7nHrhE-00376-00129320-00129558 paretic power blocks for retrieving x1yAD7nHrhE-00377-00129559-00129861 Seine nets refrigerated holds durable x1yAD7nHrhE-00378-00129862-00130224 synthetic fibers for lines and nets GPS x1yAD7nHrhE-00379-00130225-00130507 to navigate and locate fishing grounds x1yAD7nHrhE-00380-00130508-00130771 fish finders for the location of fish x1yAD7nHrhE-00381-00130772-00131025 and spotter planes to locate fish x1yAD7nHrhE-00382-00131026-00131298 schools the vessel size and gear types x1yAD7nHrhE-00383-00131299-00131537 of the u.s. fishing fleet varies x1yAD7nHrhE-00384-00131538-00131834 geographically and between fisheries x1yAD7nHrhE-00385-00131835-00132133 because of this management of u.s. x1yAD7nHrhE-00386-00132134-00132411 fisheries with a single policy as not x1yAD7nHrhE-00387-00132412-00132789 feasible individual fisheries have their x1yAD7nHrhE-00388-00132790-00133175 own biological economic and sociological x1yAD7nHrhE-00389-00133176-00133381 characteristics which make broad x1yAD7nHrhE-00390-00133382-00133740 policies impractical on the other hand x1yAD7nHrhE-00391-00133741-00134020 ad-hoc regulations for individual x1yAD7nHrhE-00392-00134021-00134310 fisheries as not practical either US x1yAD7nHrhE-00393-00134311-00134658 fisheries use most fishing gear types x1yAD7nHrhE-00394-00134659-00134973 vessels are often configured so they can x1yAD7nHrhE-00395-00134974-00135264 change rapidly between two or more gear x1yAD7nHrhE-00396-00135265-00135546 types such as lobster pots to bottom x1yAD7nHrhE-00397-00135547-00135883 trawls to scallop dredges the main x1yAD7nHrhE-00398-00135884-00136089 techniques are pursed signing and x1yAD7nHrhE-00399-00136090-00136396 trawling some vessels freeze their catch x1yAD7nHrhE-00400-00136397-00136725 at sea such as factory trawlers tuna x1yAD7nHrhE-00401-00136726-00137049 boats Alaskan crab pot vessels and some x1yAD7nHrhE-00402-00137050-00137391 southeast shrimp trawlers vessels x1yAD7nHrhE-00403-00137392-00137637 usually land their catches near their x1yAD7nHrhE-00404-00137638-00138167 home ports x1yAD7nHrhE-00405-00138168-00138772 topic bycatch mitigation x1yAD7nHrhE-00406-00138773-00139104 based in Hawaii a longline fishery for x1yAD7nHrhE-00407-00139105-00139525 tuna and billfish were popular now new x1yAD7nHrhE-00408-00139526-00139803 management approaches including placing x1yAD7nHrhE-00409-00139804-00140050 fisheries observers on vessels to x1yAD7nHrhE-00410-00140051-00140293 observe what is happening with protected x1yAD7nHrhE-00411-00140294-00140514 species such as albatross and x1yAD7nHrhE-00412-00140515-00140773 leatherback loggerhead and green sea x1yAD7nHrhE-00413-00140774-00141075 turtles is expected to reduce incidental x1yAD7nHrhE-00414-00141076-00141631 catch x1yAD7nHrhE-00415-00141632-00142221 topic overfished stocks x1yAD7nHrhE-00416-00142222-00142686 by 2003 overfishing had occurred on 60 x1yAD7nHrhE-00417-00142687-00143097 stocks another 232 stocks were not x1yAD7nHrhE-00418-00143098-00143421 overfished overfishing had been stopped x1yAD7nHrhE-00419-00143422-00143760 on 31 stocks and a gain was made of 13 x1yAD7nHrhE-00420-00143761-00144149 stocks that had been fully rebuilt there x1yAD7nHrhE-00421-00144150-00144543 were 617 other stocks which have limited x1yAD7nHrhE-00422-00144544-00144776 data or for which criteria for x1yAD7nHrhE-00423-00144777-00145139 overfishing had not been defined these x1yAD7nHrhE-00424-00145140-00145410 stocks mostly have harvests which are x1yAD7nHrhE-00425-00145411-00145608 not significant so they are not x1yAD7nHrhE-00426-00145609-00145920 allocated research funding their x1yAD7nHrhE-00427-00145921-00146177 assessment can be expensive and there is x1yAD7nHrhE-00428-00146178-00146540 no evidence of overfishing rebuilding x1yAD7nHrhE-00429-00146541-00146789 strategies are operating or are being x1yAD7nHrhE-00430-00146790-00147026 developed for most stocks which are x1yAD7nHrhE-00431-00147027-00147221 overfished x1yAD7nHrhE-00432-00147222-00147500 there were two hundred sixty seven major x1yAD7nHrhE-00433-00147501-00147806 stocks that as stocks with at least two x1yAD7nHrhE-00434-00147807-00147964 hundred thousand pounds x1yAD7nHrhE-00435-00147965-00148259 ninety-one thousand kilograms in annual x1yAD7nHrhE-00436-00148260-00148738 landings of these forty were overfished x1yAD7nHrhE-00437-00148739-00149021 147 were not and it was not known x1yAD7nHrhE-00438-00149022-00149252 whether the remaining 80 stocks were x1yAD7nHrhE-00439-00149253-00149594 overfished there were six hundred forty x1yAD7nHrhE-00440-00149595-00149882 two minor stocks of which twenty were x1yAD7nHrhE-00441-00149883-00150166 overfished eighty-five were not and the x1yAD7nHrhE-00442-00150167-00150415 remainder had an overfishing status x1yAD7nHrhE-00443-00150416-00151152 which is unknown or is undefined x1yAD7nHrhE-00444-00151153-00151794 topic marine protected areas x1yAD7nHrhE-00445-00151795-00152228 a marine protected area MPA is federally x1yAD7nHrhE-00446-00152229-00152544 defined as any area of the marine x1yAD7nHrhE-00447-00152545-00152840 environment that has been reserved by x1yAD7nHrhE-00448-00152841-00153203 federal state tribal territorial or x1yAD7nHrhE-00449-00153204-00153534 local laws or regulations to provide x1yAD7nHrhE-00450-00153535-00153812 lasting protection for part or all of x1yAD7nHrhE-00451-00153813-00154061 the natural and cultural resources x1yAD7nHrhE-00452-00154062-00154703 therein 14 MPA is covering 150,000 x1yAD7nHrhE-00453-00154704-00155037 square miles 390 thousand square x1yAD7nHrhE-00454-00155038-00155232 kilometers have been federally x1yAD7nHrhE-00455-00155233-00155437 designated as national marine x1yAD7nHrhE-00456-00155438-00155694 sanctuaries and are administered by a x1yAD7nHrhE-00457-00155695-00155963 division of the National Oceanic and x1yAD7nHrhE-00458-00155964-00156237 Atmospheric Administration NOAA in x1yAD7nHrhE-00459-00156238-00156587 practice these MPA s are defined areas x1yAD7nHrhE-00460-00156588-00156875 where natural and/or cultural resources x1yAD7nHrhE-00461-00156876-00157151 are given more protection than occurs in x1yAD7nHrhE-00462-00157152-00157490 the surrounding waters United States x1yAD7nHrhE-00463-00157491-00157850 MPAs cover many habitats including the x1yAD7nHrhE-00464-00157851-00158150 open ocean coastal areas intertidal x1yAD7nHrhE-00465-00158151-00158588 zones estuaries and the Great Lakes they x1yAD7nHrhE-00466-00158589-00158849 vary in purpose legal authorities x1yAD7nHrhE-00467-00158850-00159195 agencies management approaches level of x1yAD7nHrhE-00468-00159196-00159450 protection and restrictions on human x1yAD7nHrhE-00469-00159451-00160031 uses x1yAD7nHrhE-00470-00160032-00160597 topic aquaculture x1yAD7nHrhE-00471-00160598-00160918 the value of aquaculture products grew x1yAD7nHrhE-00472-00160919-00161391 from 45 million dollars in 1974 to about x1yAD7nHrhE-00473-00161392-00161664 eight hundred sixty six million dollars x1yAD7nHrhE-00474-00161665-00161937 three hundred ninety three thousand four x1yAD7nHrhE-00475-00161938-00162198 hundred tons in two thousand three x1yAD7nHrhE-00476-00162199-00162441 aquaculture in the United States x1yAD7nHrhE-00477-00162442-00162706 includes the farming of hatchery fish x1yAD7nHrhE-00478-00162707-00162963 and shellfish which are grown to market x1yAD7nHrhE-00479-00162964-00163345 size in ponds tanks cages or raceways x1yAD7nHrhE-00480-00163346-00163723 and released into the wild aquaculture x1yAD7nHrhE-00481-00163724-00164004 is also used to support commercial and x1yAD7nHrhE-00482-00164005-00164245 recreational marine fisheries by x1yAD7nHrhE-00483-00164246-00164518 enhancing or rebuilding wild stock x1yAD7nHrhE-00484-00164519-00164877 populations it also includes the x1yAD7nHrhE-00485-00164878-00165136 cultivation of ornamental fish for the x1yAD7nHrhE-00486-00165137-00165373 aquarium trade as well as planned x1yAD7nHrhE-00487-00165374-00165675 species used in various pharmaceutical x1yAD7nHrhE-00488-00165676-00165978 nutritional and biotechnology products x1yAD7nHrhE-00489-00165979-00166399 according to the FAO in 2004 the United x1yAD7nHrhE-00490-00166400-00166696 States ranked 10th in total aquaculture x1yAD7nHrhE-00491-00166697-00167007 production behind China India Vietnam x1yAD7nHrhE-00492-00167008-00167388 Thailand Indonesia Bangladesh Japan x1yAD7nHrhE-00493-00167389-00167778 Chile and Norway the United States x1yAD7nHrhE-00494-00167779-00168051 imports aquaculture products from these x1yAD7nHrhE-00495-00168052-00168295 and other countries and operates an x1yAD7nHrhE-00496-00168296-00168552 annual seafood trade deficit of over x1yAD7nHrhE-00497-00168553-00168864 nine billion dollars shellfish oysters x1yAD7nHrhE-00498-00168865-00169215 clams mussels account for two-thirds of x1yAD7nHrhE-00499-00169216-00169483 marine aquaculture production followed x1yAD7nHrhE-00500-00169484-00170050 by salmon 25% and shrimp 10% production x1yAD7nHrhE-00501-00170051-00170362 occurs mainly on land in ponds and in x1yAD7nHrhE-00502-00170363-00170562 coastal waters under state jurisdiction x1yAD7nHrhE-00503-00170563-00170976 as a result of recent advances in x1yAD7nHrhE-00504-00170977-00171235 offshore aquaculture technology x1yAD7nHrhE-00505-00171236-00171462 commercial fin fish and shellfish x1yAD7nHrhE-00506-00171463-00171741 operations have been established in more x1yAD7nHrhE-00507-00171742-00172060 exposed open ocean locations in state x1yAD7nHrhE-00508-00172061-00172329 waters in New Hampshire Hawaii and x1yAD7nHrhE-00509-00172330-00172648 Puerto Rico total US aquaculture x1yAD7nHrhE-00510-00172649-00172926 production including aquatic plants is x1yAD7nHrhE-00511-00172927-00173182 about 1 billion dollars annually x1yAD7nHrhE-00512-00173183-00173388 compared to the total world production x1yAD7nHrhE-00513-00173389-00173824 of about 70 billion dollars only about x1yAD7nHrhE-00514-00173825-00173959 20% of x1yAD7nHrhE-00515-00173960-00174214 u.s. aquaculture production as from x1yAD7nHrhE-00516-00174215-00174601 marine species NOAA estimates that the x1yAD7nHrhE-00517-00174602-00174865 annual US domestic aquaculture x1yAD7nHrhE-00518-00174866-00175123 production of all species could increase x1yAD7nHrhE-00519-00175124-00175566 from about 0.5 million tonnes to 1.5 x1yAD7nHrhE-00520-00175567-00176366 million tonnes by 2025 x1yAD7nHrhE-00521-00176367-00176912 topic subsidies x1yAD7nHrhE-00522-00176913-00177218 in a study of federal investment in the x1yAD7nHrhE-00523-00177219-00177521 fishery sector most aspects of United x1yAD7nHrhE-00524-00177522-00177815 States Tax fisheries and societal x1yAD7nHrhE-00525-00177816-00178070 policies were examined to see whether x1yAD7nHrhE-00526-00178071-00178322 they created subsidies for the fishing x1yAD7nHrhE-00527-00178323-00178571 industry and whether these subsidies had x1yAD7nHrhE-00528-00178572-00178982 impacts the gross value of direct US x1yAD7nHrhE-00529-00178983-00179363 subsidies was about 0.5 percent of the x1yAD7nHrhE-00530-00179364-00179621 gross X vessel value of commercial x1yAD7nHrhE-00531-00179622-00179948 landings there are no major ship x1yAD7nHrhE-00532-00179949-00180173 construction subsidies market x1yAD7nHrhE-00533-00180174-00180439 development or other forms of assistance x1yAD7nHrhE-00534-00180440-00180689 that often exists in developed and x1yAD7nHrhE-00535-00180690-00180932 developing fishing industries around the x1yAD7nHrhE-00536-00180933-00181501 world x1yAD7nHrhE-00537-00181502-00182059 topic recreational x1yAD7nHrhE-00538-00182060-00182536 in 2006 the US Fish and Wildlife Service x1yAD7nHrhE-00539-00182537-00182848 estimated that 30 point Oh million u.s. x1yAD7nHrhE-00540-00182849-00183307 anglers 16 years old and older took 403 x1yAD7nHrhE-00541-00183308-00183615 million fishing trips spending forty two x1yAD7nHrhE-00542-00183616-00183852 billion dollars in fishing related x1yAD7nHrhE-00543-00183853-00184261 expenses of these twenty five point four x1yAD7nHrhE-00544-00184262-00184549 million were freshwater anglers who took x1yAD7nHrhE-00545-00184550-00184810 three hundred thirty-seven million trips x1yAD7nHrhE-00546-00184811-00185076 and spent twenty six point three billion x1yAD7nHrhE-00547-00185077-00185463 dollars saltwater fishing attracted x1yAD7nHrhE-00548-00185464-00185743 seven point seven million anglers who x1yAD7nHrhE-00549-00185744-00186031 took sixty seven million trips and spent x1yAD7nHrhE-00550-00186032-00186780 eight point nine billion dollars x1yAD7nHrhE-00551-00186781-00187359 topic see also x1yAD7nHrhE-00552-00187360-00187618 magnuson-stevens fishery conservation x1yAD7nHrhE-00553-00187619-00188307 and Management Act of 1976 tidelands x1yAD7nHrhE-00554-00188308-00188743 continental shelf of the United States x21wl8IhIZI-00000-00000054-00000290 the international Secretariat of the x21wl8IhIZI-00001-00000291-00000634 Masonic a dogmatic powers is M AP French x21wl8IhIZI-00002-00000635-00000885 Secretariat international mechanic de x21wl8IhIZI-00003-00000886-00001187 PUE senses a dogmatix si MPA was an x21wl8IhIZI-00004-00001188-00001394 international organization of Masonic x21wl8IhIZI-00005-00001395-00001676 jurisdictions of Masonic lodges the x21wl8IhIZI-00006-00001677-00001902 jurisdictions 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x5t-m5Flbry-00008-00010179-00012169 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00009-00012170-00012683 [Applause] x5t-m5Flbry-00010-00012684-00012830 cut x5t-m5Flbry-00011-00012831-00013247 i need your help father please x5t-m5Flbry-00012-00013247-00013566 please you've got to help me x5t-m5Flbry-00013-00013568-00013919 i've heard you're the one x5t-m5Flbry-00014-00013919-00014366 you've got to save me x5t-m5Flbry-00015-00014368-00014719 you are him aren't you x5t-m5Flbry-00016-00014719-00015103 i need your help i'm losing control x5t-m5Flbry-00017-00015104-00015535 i don't know what's real that's right x5t-m5Flbry-00018-00015536-00015863 do you know are you real x5t-m5Flbry-00019-00015863-00016191 no i can't help you x5t-m5Flbry-00020-00016191-00016711 please you've got to make it stop x5t-m5Flbry-00021-00016712-00017079 he's got control i have nowhere else to x5t-m5Flbry-00022-00017080-00017255 go x5t-m5Flbry-00023-00017256-00017615 i've come here for mercy i don't want to x5t-m5Flbry-00024-00017616-00017830 be sacrificed x5t-m5Flbry-00025-00017831-00018358 can you help me x5t-m5Flbry-00026-00018359-00019850 no i can't x5t-m5Flbry-00027-00019851-00021083 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00028-00021084-00021494 uh x5t-m5Flbry-00029-00021495-00022005 are we safe here x5t-m5Flbry-00030-00022006-00022311 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00031-00022312-00023103 that's my prayer x5t-m5Flbry-00032-00023104-00023694 you are him aren't you story x5t-m5Flbry-00033-00023695-00024007 have mercy on me father story tell me x5t-m5Flbry-00034-00024008-00024255 how you've come to this place x5t-m5Flbry-00035-00024256-00024671 tell me how you've come to be saved x5t-m5Flbry-00036-00024672-00024991 tell me tell me is this x5t-m5Flbry-00037-00024992-00025455 real what makes you think i know x5t-m5Flbry-00038-00025456-00025767 i have to believe in something ray x5t-m5Flbry-00039-00025768-00026246 harker x5t-m5Flbry-00040-00026247-00026551 trust me story would i lie to you he x5t-m5Flbry-00041-00026552-00026823 didn't seem so very bad x5t-m5Flbry-00042-00026824-00027190 not at first anyway x5t-m5Flbry-00043-00027191-00027374 we're gonna do it all see it all and x5t-m5Flbry-00044-00027375-00027551 have it all story do you understand what x5t-m5Flbry-00045-00027552-00027679 i'm saying x5t-m5Flbry-00046-00027680-00028083 we're going to hell to have a killer x5t-m5Flbry-00047-00028083-00028368 time x5t-m5Flbry-00048-00028369-00029446 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00049-00029447-00029807 i had a girl then i used to pick her up x5t-m5Flbry-00050-00029808-00029974 in my car x5t-m5Flbry-00051-00029975-00030308 i'd honk the horn and she'd come running x5t-m5Flbry-00052-00030310-00030935 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00053-00030936-00031479 damn nights like this x5t-m5Flbry-00054-00031480-00031814 i'm sorry sir yeah you x5t-m5Flbry-00055-00031816-00032151 sure as hell are i understand you've x5t-m5Flbry-00056-00032152-00032374 been hanging around with ray harker x5t-m5Flbry-00057-00032375-00032558 not that i give a good goddamn but that x5t-m5Flbry-00058-00032560-00032702 means my daughter's hanging around with x5t-m5Flbry-00059-00032703-00033102 ray harker x5t-m5Flbry-00060-00033103-00033511 why do you care so much about ray parker x5t-m5Flbry-00061-00033512-00033759 i make it my business to keep an eye on x5t-m5Flbry-00062-00033760-00033862 his x5t-m5Flbry-00063-00033863-00034215 type you remember those kids used to x5t-m5Flbry-00064-00034216-00034351 hang around with you called one of the x5t-m5Flbry-00065-00034352-00034471 moon x5t-m5Flbry-00066-00034472-00034759 yeah he moved to california to be with x5t-m5Flbry-00067-00034760-00034959 his girlfriend x5t-m5Flbry-00068-00034960-00035167 that's the story that's what they wanted x5t-m5Flbry-00069-00035168-00035399 you to believe x5t-m5Flbry-00070-00035400-00035767 why shouldn't they he left his parents x5t-m5Flbry-00071-00035768-00035951 never heard from him again x5t-m5Flbry-00072-00035952-00036246 that girl supposedly went with him no x5t-m5Flbry-00073-00036247-00036479 one ever heard from her again either x5t-m5Flbry-00074-00036480-00036887 they were friends of ray harkers yeah so x5t-m5Flbry-00075-00036888-00037174 daddy what are you doing i'm sorry x5t-m5Flbry-00076-00037175-00037462 sweetie just have a little chat x5t-m5Flbry-00077-00037463-00038502 go on you have a good time okay x5t-m5Flbry-00078-00038503-00038790 nights like this make me so mad daddy's x5t-m5Flbry-00079-00038791-00038967 so suspicious x5t-m5Flbry-00080-00038968-00039215 tell me about it you know he doesn't x5t-m5Flbry-00081-00039216-00039374 trust anybody x5t-m5Flbry-00082-00039375-00041143 sometimes i wish he wasn't a cop x5t-m5Flbry-00083-00041144-00041462 your dad asked me about ray harker x5t-m5Flbry-00084-00041463-00041871 so he just seemed so x5t-m5Flbry-00085-00041872-00042351 suspicious just like i said x5t-m5Flbry-00086-00042352-00042671 hooray you gotta get to know ray he's x5t-m5Flbry-00087-00042672-00043023 kind of uh loser you don't know what a x5t-m5Flbry-00088-00043024-00044511 loser is [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00089-00044512-00044646 what does he have to do with anything x5t-m5Flbry-00090-00044647-00045783 he's not here x5t-m5Flbry-00091-00045784-00046599 what was real x5t-m5Flbry-00092-00046600-00047015 do you love me story i love this x5t-m5Flbry-00093-00047016-00049083 but do you love me x5t-m5Flbry-00094-00049084-00049271 ah x5t-m5Flbry-00095-00049272-00049839 hello boys x5t-m5Flbry-00096-00049840-00050208 now do you love me do you love me now x5t-m5Flbry-00097-00050209-00050367 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00098-00050368-00050702 what's happened to me what's happening x5t-m5Flbry-00099-00050703-00051055 sex story it's not something you'll have x5t-m5Flbry-00100-00051056-00051263 to worry about anymore x5t-m5Flbry-00101-00051264-00051474 think of all the trouble i've saved you x5t-m5Flbry-00102-00051475-00051742 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00103-00051744-00052063 now you can concentrate on loving me not x5t-m5Flbry-00104-00052064-00052894 the sex x5t-m5Flbry-00105-00052895-00053511 what's wrong don't you love me anymore x5t-m5Flbry-00106-00053512-00053703 what's wrong honey what's happened to x5t-m5Flbry-00107-00053704-00054294 you who are you x5t-m5Flbry-00108-00054295-00054989 what's gotten into x5t-m5Flbry-00109-00054990-00055823 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00110-00055824-00056671 get out of here x5t-m5Flbry-00111-00056672-00056830 come around me anymore what's your x5t-m5Flbry-00112-00056832-00056975 [__] problem i don't know you're x5t-m5Flbry-00113-00056976-00057103 making me see things x5t-m5Flbry-00114-00057104-00057271 thought i was supposed to be your friend x5t-m5Flbry-00115-00057272-00057438 stay away from me okay x5t-m5Flbry-00116-00057439-00057615 fine whatever but when you get in x5t-m5Flbry-00117-00057616-00058623 trouble you'll have to come and see me x5t-m5Flbry-00118-00058624-00059087 we go in ask him about harker x5t-m5Flbry-00119-00059088-00059303 i don't know i don't know ray harker x5t-m5Flbry-00120-00059304-00059559 story run story you're [__] man story x5t-m5Flbry-00121-00059560-00059599 run x5t-m5Flbry-00122-00059600-00059911 story your [__] your story then we x5t-m5Flbry-00123-00059912-00060230 squeeze it and that piece of [__] will x5t-m5Flbry-00124-00060232-00060471 come apart like a cheap piece of [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00125-00060472-00060838 suit what my daughter sees in a guy like x5t-m5Flbry-00126-00060839-00060879 that x5t-m5Flbry-00127-00060879-00061263 jesus x5t-m5Flbry-00128-00061264-00061663 he's right there he's right behind you x5t-m5Flbry-00129-00061664-00062015 look just it's okay he's right there x5t-m5Flbry-00130-00062016-00062191 what are you still doing here you stupid x5t-m5Flbry-00131-00062191-00062423 son of a [__] get the hell out of here x5t-m5Flbry-00132-00062424-00062687 you're [__] man you're [__] man x5t-m5Flbry-00133-00062688-00062830 these guys you're [__] man x5t-m5Flbry-00134-00062832-00062966 you better get the hell out of here you x5t-m5Flbry-00135-00062967-00063223 better [__] or get off the pot story x5t-m5Flbry-00136-00063224-00063566 you're just making it worse on yourself x5t-m5Flbry-00137-00063567-00065166 for me get away from me tonight x5t-m5Flbry-00138-00065167-00066347 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00139-00066348-00067031 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00141-00070083-00070782 me x5t-m5Flbry-00142-00070783-00071482 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00143-00071483-00073486 so x5t-m5Flbry-00144-00073487-00073922 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00145-00073923-00074282 [Applause] x5t-m5Flbry-00146-00074283-00074838 oh x5t-m5Flbry-00147-00074839-00075175 cut the line is jesus x5t-m5Flbry-00148-00075176-00075519 like one of those tv preachers right x5t-m5Flbry-00149-00075520-00075711 jesus if you don't do the line right it x5t-m5Flbry-00150-00075712-00075855 won't work x5t-m5Flbry-00151-00075856-00076031 the scene that seems wrong it doesn't x5t-m5Flbry-00152-00076032-00076167 work there's no energy there's no x5t-m5Flbry-00153-00076168-00076247 passion there's no x5t-m5Flbry-00154-00076248-00076543 sacrifice the kids have to connect with x5t-m5Flbry-00155-00076544-00076599 this x5t-m5Flbry-00156-00076600-00076894 [__] you fight it too hard story x5t-m5Flbry-00157-00076895-00077111 story has to love this it's saving you x5t-m5Flbry-00158-00077112-00077279 from yourself rey is your divine x5t-m5Flbry-00159-00077280-00077375 intervention from x5t-m5Flbry-00160-00077376-00077687 boredom and ray what's his problem x5t-m5Flbry-00161-00077688-00077926 anyway x5t-m5Flbry-00162-00077927-00078071 i think he can hold it together until we x5t-m5Flbry-00163-00078072-00078255 rap x5t-m5Flbry-00164-00078256-00078567 it's hard to say whatever he needs beer x5t-m5Flbry-00165-00078568-00078662 dope whatever x5t-m5Flbry-00166-00078663-00078999 might help why not we'll do x5t-m5Flbry-00167-00079000-00079326 whatever it takes control him no matter x5t-m5Flbry-00168-00079327-00079367 what x5t-m5Flbry-00169-00079368-00079599 control him just long enough until we x5t-m5Flbry-00170-00079600-00079719 rap and then x5t-m5Flbry-00171-00079720-00079999 we'll be finished with him maybe we x5t-m5Flbry-00172-00080000-00080111 should back off x5t-m5Flbry-00173-00080112-00080367 haven't got time the movie is everything x5t-m5Flbry-00174-00080368-00080438 ray is x5t-m5Flbry-00175-00080439-00080631 nothing ray will have to hold it x5t-m5Flbry-00176-00080632-00080926 together life isn't fair x5t-m5Flbry-00177-00080927-00081282 ray will be handled we all have to make x5t-m5Flbry-00178-00081283-00081423 sacrifices that's what you keep x5t-m5Flbry-00179-00081424-00081591 saying maybe we'll do more story x5t-m5Flbry-00180-00081592-00081823 voiceover try and keep rey together hell x5t-m5Flbry-00181-00081824-00081959 we haven't got a choice we're in way x5t-m5Flbry-00182-00081960-00082047 over our heads x5t-m5Flbry-00183-00082048-00082375 if we don't is that camera still rolling x5t-m5Flbry-00184-00082376-00083103 oh well jesus cut x5t-m5Flbry-00185-00083104-00083423 i don't see how this could help i'm x5t-m5Flbry-00186-00083424-00083815 desperate the devil x5t-m5Flbry-00187-00083816-00084438 the devil x5t-m5Flbry-00188-00084439-00084782 i told myself i wasn't scared x5t-m5Flbry-00189-00084783-00085255 but it was scared like a little kid x5t-m5Flbry-00190-00085256-00085703 afraid of the dark x5t-m5Flbry-00191-00085704-00086118 what's wrong with you x5t-m5Flbry-00192-00086119-00086591 well pay some attention to me x5t-m5Flbry-00193-00086592-00087006 i was a fool my sins devoured me x5t-m5Flbry-00194-00087007-00087815 story story come quick x5t-m5Flbry-00195-00087816-00088150 of course i heard him x5t-m5Flbry-00196-00088151-00088406 he's out there what are you talking x5t-m5Flbry-00197-00088407-00088543 about x5t-m5Flbry-00198-00088544-00089231 [__] i'd rather you [__] me x5t-m5Flbry-00199-00089232-00089679 only i can help you x5t-m5Flbry-00200-00089680-00089975 only i can help you only i can make it x5t-m5Flbry-00201-00089976-00090094 stop x5t-m5Flbry-00202-00090095-00090918 you know i'm right x5t-m5Flbry-00203-00090919-00092797 sin and i loved it x5t-m5Flbry-00204-00092798-00093882 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00205-00093883-00096682 um x5t-m5Flbry-00206-00096683-00098082 ugh x5t-m5Flbry-00207-00098083-00098314 ugh x5t-m5Flbry-00208-00098315-00100882 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00209-00100883-00101589 ugh x5t-m5Flbry-00210-00101590-00102282 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00211-00102283-00103224 ugh my god x5t-m5Flbry-00212-00103225-00103758 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00213-00103759-00104071 well are you or not x5t-m5Flbry-00214-00104072-00105283 get a grip story go answer right x5t-m5Flbry-00215-00105283-00106607 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00216-00106608-00106902 i've never known such fear don't help me x5t-m5Flbry-00217-00106903-00107223 please x5t-m5Flbry-00218-00107224-00107599 right what do you want from me x5t-m5Flbry-00219-00107600-00108228 please god help me x5t-m5Flbry-00220-00108229-00108343 [Applause] x5t-m5Flbry-00221-00108344-00108551 you don't understand story you're the x5t-m5Flbry-00222-00108552-00108663 chosen one x5t-m5Flbry-00223-00108664-00108951 you can see what i see you can be what i x5t-m5Flbry-00224-00108952-00109102 want you to be x5t-m5Flbry-00225-00109103-00109471 it's all [__] nothing's real x5t-m5Flbry-00226-00109472-00109654 not sure i want to see the things you x5t-m5Flbry-00227-00109655-00110271 see do you have a choice x5t-m5Flbry-00228-00110272-00110454 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00229-00110455-00112215 i had no choice i worshiped a false god x5t-m5Flbry-00230-00112216-00112423 how did he find us look he just seems to x5t-m5Flbry-00231-00112424-00112671 [__] know drive drive fast x5t-m5Flbry-00232-00112672-00112886 as fast as i can what if we can't do it x5t-m5Flbry-00233-00112888-00113071 we're dead we're [__] dead x5t-m5Flbry-00234-00113072-00113239 why did he have to find us it's all your x5t-m5Flbry-00235-00113240-00113415 fault story maybe x5t-m5Flbry-00236-00113416-00113686 maybe he won't catch it yeah right it's x5t-m5Flbry-00237-00113688-00113871 all your fault you'll never be the man x5t-m5Flbry-00238-00113872-00114031 he is sure hope not x5t-m5Flbry-00239-00114032-00114158 and this is not how i want to be x5t-m5Flbry-00240-00114159-00114295 remembered because it's all your fault x5t-m5Flbry-00241-00114296-00114366 story x5t-m5Flbry-00242-00114367-00115158 look he won't catch us x5t-m5Flbry-00243-00115159-00115423 [__] he's gaining look maybe he'll back x5t-m5Flbry-00244-00115424-00115534 off x5t-m5Flbry-00245-00115535-00115799 never it's all your fault it's not my x5t-m5Flbry-00246-00115800-00115878 fault x5t-m5Flbry-00247-00115879-00116102 then who can we play who who in god's x5t-m5Flbry-00248-00116103-00116215 name huh x5t-m5Flbry-00249-00116216-00116433 we're all dead x5t-m5Flbry-00250-00116434-00117710 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00251-00117711-00118015 oh [__] [__] this i'm out of here x5t-m5Flbry-00252-00118016-00119083 and if he catches up x5t-m5Flbry-00253-00119083-00119271 cut x5t-m5Flbry-00254-00119272-00119686 you know i sure would like a bigger part x5t-m5Flbry-00255-00119688-00119943 your part is important now much of the x5t-m5Flbry-00256-00119944-00119999 action x5t-m5Flbry-00257-00120000-00120214 will turn on your character i can do x5t-m5Flbry-00258-00120215-00120327 better than x5t-m5Flbry-00259-00120328-00120639 her she does all right x5t-m5Flbry-00260-00120640-00120966 all right you don't aim very high x5t-m5Flbry-00261-00120967-00121278 you need a perfect body not an all right x5t-m5Flbry-00262-00121279-00121431 body x5t-m5Flbry-00263-00121432-00121758 well how's your body perfect x5t-m5Flbry-00264-00121759-00122086 i mean people would die to see this body x5t-m5Flbry-00265-00122088-00123263 wouldn't you i've never seen it x5t-m5Flbry-00266-00123264-00123575 you know i sure would like her part well x5t-m5Flbry-00267-00123576-00123895 we have to reshoot something but it'll x5t-m5Flbry-00268-00123896-00124039 be no problem x5t-m5Flbry-00269-00124040-00124254 we can go back to my apartment my x5t-m5Flbry-00270-00124255-00124390 bedroom x5t-m5Flbry-00271-00124391-00124631 you can run through the lines with me i x5t-m5Flbry-00272-00124632-00124710 would just do x5t-m5Flbry-00273-00124711-00125527 anything for the part anything x5t-m5Flbry-00274-00125528-00125743 you didn't tell your dad about ray being x5t-m5Flbry-00275-00125744-00125951 here did you x5t-m5Flbry-00276-00125952-00126134 you know your dad's already starting to x5t-m5Flbry-00277-00126135-00126327 worry about rey x5t-m5Flbry-00278-00126328-00126702 and me and you you didn't tell your dad x5t-m5Flbry-00279-00126703-00126863 did you x5t-m5Flbry-00280-00126864-00127199 did you angela why would i tell daddy x5t-m5Flbry-00281-00127200-00127534 anything x5t-m5Flbry-00282-00127535-00127934 you understand right crystal it's ray x5t-m5Flbry-00283-00127935-00128383 we have to be careful get over it story x5t-m5Flbry-00284-00128383-00128710 but i said get over it crystal x5t-m5Flbry-00285-00128711-00129134 you understand right don't ask her x5t-m5Flbry-00286-00129135-00129794 no i just don't get it x5t-m5Flbry-00287-00129795-00130351 [Applause] x5t-m5Flbry-00288-00130352-00130814 story i'm down here x5t-m5Flbry-00289-00130815-00131143 how'd you know it was me i just knew x5t-m5Flbry-00290-00131144-00131383 just like i knew you would come did i x5t-m5Flbry-00291-00131384-00131807 have a choice x5t-m5Flbry-00292-00131808-00132111 why are you scared i don't know what's x5t-m5Flbry-00293-00132112-00132263 real anymore x5t-m5Flbry-00294-00132264-00132599 it's all [__] everything x5t-m5Flbry-00295-00132600-00132727 at least you don't know what's coming x5t-m5Flbry-00296-00132728-00133054 next at least you can have fun x5t-m5Flbry-00297-00133055-00133471 but i want to know get over it x5t-m5Flbry-00298-00133472-00133823 it's what everyone says are you hungry x5t-m5Flbry-00299-00133824-00134127 yeah are you really x5t-m5Flbry-00300-00134128-00134519 or is that just me x5t-m5Flbry-00301-00134520-00134966 i could eat there's food in the fridge x5t-m5Flbry-00302-00134967-00135478 where across the room x5t-m5Flbry-00303-00135479-00137390 where is it over there x5t-m5Flbry-00304-00137391-00138123 everything's a joke to you look again x5t-m5Flbry-00305-00138124-00138319 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00306-00138320-00139362 go ahead story take a look x5t-m5Flbry-00307-00139363-00139766 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00308-00139767-00139935 better watch what you say story because x5t-m5Flbry-00309-00139936-00141031 i'll be watching you x5t-m5Flbry-00310-00141032-00141463 a real bad cop x5t-m5Flbry-00311-00141464-00141743 tell me about ray harker i can't say x5t-m5Flbry-00312-00141744-00141814 anything x5t-m5Flbry-00313-00141815-00142135 you can't say anything no you mean ray x5t-m5Flbry-00314-00142136-00142599 doesn't want you to say anything x5t-m5Flbry-00315-00142600-00143759 good cop really you can speak with me x5t-m5Flbry-00316-00143760-00144102 yeah like rake and control the weather x5t-m5Flbry-00317-00144103-00144439 controls everything don't you sell me x5t-m5Flbry-00318-00144440-00144502 out x5t-m5Flbry-00319-00144503-00144663 you better lie for me because if you x5t-m5Flbry-00320-00144664-00144871 don't i'm gonna make your life a living x5t-m5Flbry-00321-00144872-00144959 nightmare x5t-m5Flbry-00322-00144960-00145095 i was telling you about this moon x5t-m5Flbry-00323-00145096-00145423 character x5t-m5Flbry-00324-00145424-00145854 like i said it's [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00325-00145855-00146433 wow i get it it's all [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00326-00146434-00147083 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00327-00147084-00147377 [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00328-00147378-00149190 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00329-00149191-00149539 it's all [__] have fun with it go x5t-m5Flbry-00330-00149540-00149883 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00331-00149884-00150135 ahead x5t-m5Flbry-00332-00150136-00152031 there's no blood it can't be real x5t-m5Flbry-00333-00152032-00152937 oh my god this is really happening x5t-m5Flbry-00334-00152938-00153302 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00335-00153303-00153647 you're not authorized to be here x5t-m5Flbry-00336-00153648-00153935 i [__] up i killed all the cops you x5t-m5Flbry-00337-00153936-00153990 [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00338-00153991-00154231 idiot maybe i should just put you out of x5t-m5Flbry-00339-00154232-00154431 your misery x5t-m5Flbry-00340-00154432-00154702 you'll bring me back right you can raise x5t-m5Flbry-00341-00154703-00154814 the dead x5t-m5Flbry-00342-00154815-00155271 right right right x5t-m5Flbry-00343-00155272-00155647 right oh focus x5t-m5Flbry-00344-00155648-00156007 focus focus focus god damn it x5t-m5Flbry-00345-00156008-00156263 oh it's just not working i'm not sure x5t-m5Flbry-00346-00156264-00156326 ray's x5t-m5Flbry-00347-00156327-00156631 working this is [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00348-00156632-00156854 ray's got a lot of problems we've got to x5t-m5Flbry-00349-00156855-00156966 think of a way to make ray's x5t-m5Flbry-00350-00156967-00157063 shortcomings x5t-m5Flbry-00351-00157064-00157526 work for us ideas x5t-m5Flbry-00352-00157527-00157807 well i've got some ideas some radical x5t-m5Flbry-00353-00157808-00157895 ideas x5t-m5Flbry-00354-00157896-00158283 but right now this scene doesn't x5t-m5Flbry-00355-00158284-00158702 work x5t-m5Flbry-00356-00158703-00158902 are we ever [__] gonna get fed around x5t-m5Flbry-00357-00158903-00159143 here this is [__] ridiculous starving x5t-m5Flbry-00358-00159144-00159254 the actors x5t-m5Flbry-00359-00159255-00159471 we're working on it ray [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00360-00159472-00159759 [__] is our theme ray x5t-m5Flbry-00361-00159760-00160039 i'll take care of it but right now the x5t-m5Flbry-00362-00160040-00160095 scene x5t-m5Flbry-00363-00160096-00160351 is lifeless it doesn't work now what x5t-m5Flbry-00364-00160352-00160502 this film needs x5t-m5Flbry-00365-00160503-00161014 is a little food let's go back to x5t-m5Flbry-00366-00161015-00161214 look you little piece of [__] i know you x5t-m5Flbry-00367-00161215-00161366 know ray harger and i want to know what x5t-m5Flbry-00368-00161367-00161526 you know and i want to know it now now x5t-m5Flbry-00369-00161527-00161711 you start talking and tell me x5t-m5Flbry-00370-00161712-00161878 everything we want to know the good and x5t-m5Flbry-00371-00161879-00162126 the bad x5t-m5Flbry-00372-00162127-00162535 i can't tell you anything okay x5t-m5Flbry-00373-00162536-00163471 good job let's go get something to eat x5t-m5Flbry-00374-00163472-00163935 so what's the plan shut up and eat x5t-m5Flbry-00375-00163936-00164287 okay then what more [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00376-00164288-00164431 sometimes i feel like i'm wasting my x5t-m5Flbry-00377-00164432-00164702 life with you guys sometimes x5t-m5Flbry-00378-00164703-00164895 they'll try all the time hey [__] you x5t-m5Flbry-00379-00164896-00165014 gotta play it right in front of you x5t-m5Flbry-00380-00165015-00165199 these are mine x5t-m5Flbry-00381-00165200-00165631 you're not gonna need it so what's next x5t-m5Flbry-00382-00165632-00165895 from whatever i say who the hell died x5t-m5Flbry-00383-00165896-00166038 and made you boss x5t-m5Flbry-00384-00166039-00166351 you did [__] you x5t-m5Flbry-00385-00166352-00166775 [__] weirdo x5t-m5Flbry-00386-00166776-00167551 he's not gonna do but you will x5t-m5Flbry-00387-00167552-00168054 so you surrendered x5t-m5Flbry-00388-00168055-00168463 in every way you could imagine x5t-m5Flbry-00389-00168464-00168814 he became part of me once he had me x5t-m5Flbry-00390-00168815-00169483 i lost my way i tried to run x5t-m5Flbry-00391-00169484-00171344 but x5t-m5Flbry-00392-00171345-00172283 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00393-00172284-00172819 uh x5t-m5Flbry-00394-00172820-00173683 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00395-00173684-00174445 um x5t-m5Flbry-00396-00174446-00175083 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00397-00175084-00175610 so x5t-m5Flbry-00398-00175611-00176483 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00399-00176484-00177551 uh x5t-m5Flbry-00400-00177552-00177902 please no please you gone gay or x5t-m5Flbry-00401-00177903-00177959 something x5t-m5Flbry-00402-00177960-00178247 or something yes what's wrong with you x5t-m5Flbry-00403-00178248-00178414 i'm all mixed up x5t-m5Flbry-00404-00178415-00178566 you're mixed up you're getting weirder x5t-m5Flbry-00405-00178567-00178751 and weirder i thought you were someone x5t-m5Flbry-00406-00178752-00178831 else x5t-m5Flbry-00407-00178832-00179151 what nothing so you think i'm x5t-m5Flbry-00408-00179152-00179399 crystal is that it you're thinking of x5t-m5Flbry-00409-00179400-00179535 crystal while you're with me x5t-m5Flbry-00410-00179536-00179878 that's [__] no i thought you were x5t-m5Flbry-00411-00179879-00179919 ray x5t-m5Flbry-00412-00179920-00180166 what parker oh my god that's even more x5t-m5Flbry-00413-00180167-00180335 sick x5t-m5Flbry-00414-00180336-00181583 i mean come on don't these do it to you x5t-m5Flbry-00415-00181584-00181775 ray's inside my head oh you're starting x5t-m5Flbry-00416-00181776-00181911 to sound like my daddy x5t-m5Flbry-00417-00181912-00182087 how's that well he's always asking me x5t-m5Flbry-00418-00182088-00182238 about rey x5t-m5Flbry-00419-00182239-00182543 remember that moon kid he moved to x5t-m5Flbry-00420-00182544-00182695 california with his girlfriend x5t-m5Flbry-00421-00182696-00183014 yeah that's what they say your dad knows x5t-m5Flbry-00422-00183015-00183087 something x5t-m5Flbry-00423-00183088-00183431 yeah he knows how to make me miserable x5t-m5Flbry-00424-00183432-00183743 i don't i don't think i don't x5t-m5Flbry-00425-00183744-00184166 think i don't think x5t-m5Flbry-00426-00184167-00184471 boy what the hell's going on in here x5t-m5Flbry-00427-00184472-00184695 talking my ass what the hell are you x5t-m5Flbry-00428-00184696-00184775 doing up here x5t-m5Flbry-00429-00184776-00185247 we're just up here to talk sir my ass x5t-m5Flbry-00430-00185248-00185447 i'll see your home sir we have laws x5t-m5Flbry-00431-00185448-00185719 protecting young girls son x5t-m5Flbry-00432-00185720-00185975 daddy is that you young lady you keep x5t-m5Flbry-00433-00185976-00186102 quiet you're in enough trouble x5t-m5Flbry-00434-00186103-00186383 but daddy it's all his fault he made me x5t-m5Flbry-00435-00186384-00186575 we can put his kind away x5t-m5Flbry-00436-00186576-00186814 forever daddy it's all him it's his x5t-m5Flbry-00437-00186815-00186895 fault x5t-m5Flbry-00438-00186896-00187183 rape's a felony boy i didn't do anything x5t-m5Flbry-00439-00187184-00187231 so x5t-m5Flbry-00440-00187232-00187390 we're just up here today i know what you x5t-m5Flbry-00441-00187391-00187543 were up here to do daddy x5t-m5Flbry-00442-00187544-00187863 i'll just go home oh i'll see your home x5t-m5Flbry-00443-00187864-00187895 sir x5t-m5Flbry-00444-00187896-00188214 like hell you will it's x5t-m5Flbry-00445-00188215-00188519 [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00446-00188520-00188807 ray you stupid pig man she was ready to x5t-m5Flbry-00447-00188808-00188950 sell you out x5t-m5Flbry-00448-00188951-00189143 yeah she's afraid of her dad looks like x5t-m5Flbry-00449-00189144-00189326 you're a little afraid of him too x5t-m5Flbry-00450-00189327-00189478 you wouldn't sell me out to daddy would x5t-m5Flbry-00451-00189479-00189647 you x5t-m5Flbry-00452-00189648-00189959 sell you out for what parker you're a x5t-m5Flbry-00453-00189960-00190135 piggy stupid idiot x5t-m5Flbry-00454-00190136-00190295 she's really mad you're the one who x5t-m5Flbry-00455-00190296-00190526 ought to be mad no [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00456-00190527-00190799 it's him daddy ooh daddy better be x5t-m5Flbry-00457-00190800-00190854 careful x5t-m5Flbry-00458-00190855-00191047 daddy doesn't know what he's up against x5t-m5Flbry-00459-00191048-00191223 story you need to take better care of me x5t-m5Flbry-00460-00191224-00191375 [__] idiot x5t-m5Flbry-00461-00191376-00191566 what if your daddy comes around i was x5t-m5Flbry-00462-00191567-00191711 just kidding x5t-m5Flbry-00463-00191712-00191863 you going home i'll make sure angela x5t-m5Flbry-00464-00191864-00192111 gets back all right x5t-m5Flbry-00465-00192112-00193283 right why don't you go home with ray x5t-m5Flbry-00466-00193284-00194683 fine x5t-m5Flbry-00467-00194684-00195895 [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00468-00195896-00196207 i'll take over x5t-m5Flbry-00469-00196208-00196350 all right you little piece of [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00470-00196351-00196535 you've done it now you've done it now x5t-m5Flbry-00471-00196536-00196614 where is she x5t-m5Flbry-00472-00196615-00196831 she my daughter you dumb piece of [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00473-00196832-00197007 you know daddy's little girl x5t-m5Flbry-00474-00197008-00197175 i don't know what you're talking about x5t-m5Flbry-00475-00197176-00197350 don't give me that x5t-m5Flbry-00476-00197351-00197526 piece of [__] you tell me where she is x5t-m5Flbry-00477-00197527-00197711 tell me right now or i swear i will blow x5t-m5Flbry-00478-00197712-00197966 your piece of [__] head clean off x5t-m5Flbry-00479-00197967-00198214 i swear to god don't blaspheme you x5t-m5Flbry-00480-00198215-00198311 godless x5t-m5Flbry-00481-00198312-00198535 piece of [__] tell me what you did with x5t-m5Flbry-00482-00198536-00198759 it it wasn't me it was ray x5t-m5Flbry-00483-00198760-00199095 ray hawker yeah he was with her last x5t-m5Flbry-00484-00199096-00199319 night you're lying x5t-m5Flbry-00485-00199320-00199807 no when i left her she went with him x5t-m5Flbry-00486-00199808-00200095 what kind of piece of [__] leaves his x5t-m5Flbry-00487-00200096-00200350 girlfriend with a guy like harker x5t-m5Flbry-00488-00200351-00200607 look i was mad at her at the time okay x5t-m5Flbry-00489-00200608-00200678 you x5t-m5Flbry-00490-00200679-00200926 piece of [__] god damn it tell me what x5t-m5Flbry-00491-00200927-00201078 you know about red or you are gonna be x5t-m5Flbry-00492-00201079-00201135 like x5t-m5Flbry-00493-00201136-00201623 this is the [__] it's right he's the one x5t-m5Flbry-00494-00201624-00201863 just fine where raise the one did he x5t-m5Flbry-00495-00201864-00202054 tell you about moon and his girlfriend x5t-m5Flbry-00496-00202055-00202263 yeah what do you tell you he didn't tell x5t-m5Flbry-00497-00202264-00202359 me anything okay x5t-m5Flbry-00498-00202360-00202623 he's [__] crazy i know he's crazy x5t-m5Flbry-00499-00202624-00202759 tell us something we don't know x5t-m5Flbry-00500-00202760-00203135 would you shut the [__] up he has x5t-m5Flbry-00501-00203136-00204247 he has daddy what are you doing x5t-m5Flbry-00502-00204248-00204483 show's over come on let's get out of x5t-m5Flbry-00503-00204484-00205503 here x5t-m5Flbry-00504-00205504-00206071 just trying to get a little information x5t-m5Flbry-00505-00206071-00206382 from story from story x5t-m5Flbry-00506-00206383-00206638 daddy please something happened to that x5t-m5Flbry-00507-00206639-00206814 moon kid i don't want anyone else to x5t-m5Flbry-00508-00206815-00206934 disappear x5t-m5Flbry-00509-00206935-00207103 you be careful around the grey harper x5t-m5Flbry-00510-00207104-00207286 guy daddy x5t-m5Flbry-00511-00207287-00207598 please x5t-m5Flbry-00512-00207600-00207910 daddy please x5t-m5Flbry-00513-00207911-00208142 oh story don't be so dramatic get up off x5t-m5Flbry-00514-00208144-00208303 the floor x5t-m5Flbry-00515-00208304-00208519 i mean i had to get a ride home with ray x5t-m5Flbry-00516-00208519-00208631 harker last night x5t-m5Flbry-00517-00208632-00208919 you stupid i'm sick of everyone calling x5t-m5Flbry-00518-00208919-00208958 me x5t-m5Flbry-00519-00208959-00209262 a stupid piece of [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00520-00209263-00209542 well you are a stupid piece of [__] how x5t-m5Flbry-00521-00209544-00209855 could you leave me alone with rey x5t-m5Flbry-00522-00209856-00210231 why did your dad come here anyway well i x5t-m5Flbry-00523-00210232-00210375 guess because i told him that you left x5t-m5Flbry-00524-00210376-00210542 me alone with ray last night i mean what x5t-m5Flbry-00525-00210544-00210655 was he supposed to do x5t-m5Flbry-00526-00210656-00210806 i don't think he appreciated it very x5t-m5Flbry-00527-00210807-00211006 much x5t-m5Flbry-00528-00211007-00211261 i guess not x5t-m5Flbry-00529-00211262-00211463 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00530-00211464-00211791 he's got me help me please x5t-m5Flbry-00531-00211792-00212103 god help me x5t-m5Flbry-00532-00212104-00212631 please no x5t-m5Flbry-00533-00212632-00213094 no please x5t-m5Flbry-00534-00213094-00213794 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00535-00213796-00214271 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00536-00214271-00214663 remember that moon kid you know x5t-m5Flbry-00537-00214664-00214927 but dad thinks something happened to him x5t-m5Flbry-00538-00214928-00215239 something happens to everybody x5t-m5Flbry-00539-00215240-00215615 what don't you hear that x5t-m5Flbry-00540-00215616-00215863 something's wrong nothing's wrong x5t-m5Flbry-00541-00215864-00216134 everything's perfect x5t-m5Flbry-00542-00216135-00216542 no please no no you want to go inside x5t-m5Flbry-00543-00216544-00216927 i don't think so i think you do x5t-m5Flbry-00544-00216928-00217342 now i better go no you'd better not x5t-m5Flbry-00545-00217344-00217679 let's check it out mr curiosity no x5t-m5Flbry-00546-00217680-00218142 i can't what is it to kill the cat x5t-m5Flbry-00547-00218144-00218482 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00548-00218483-00219234 curiosity x5t-m5Flbry-00549-00219235-00219415 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00550-00219416-00219871 well look with the cat dragon x5t-m5Flbry-00551-00219871-00220255 that damn cat what's going on here x5t-m5Flbry-00552-00220256-00220719 man every day at harker's is killer x5t-m5Flbry-00553-00220719-00221175 you got that right come on story x5t-m5Flbry-00554-00221176-00221519 sit down have a beer no x5t-m5Flbry-00555-00221519-00221879 i've got to go x5t-m5Flbry-00556-00221880-00222398 stupid piece of [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00557-00222400-00222582 you're the one you can save me get me x5t-m5Flbry-00558-00222583-00222903 out of here help me help me please x5t-m5Flbry-00559-00222904-00223303 you're crazy you're crazy stop it x5t-m5Flbry-00560-00223304-00223639 no stop you're x5t-m5Flbry-00561-00223640-00224039 crazy ray had a hold on all of us x5t-m5Flbry-00562-00224040-00226059 no place was safe not even here x5t-m5Flbry-00563-00226060-00226863 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00564-00226864-00227206 it was good we don't clap right okay x5t-m5Flbry-00565-00227207-00227446 well that's a hell of a religion for you x5t-m5Flbry-00566-00227448-00227582 what do you want harker x5t-m5Flbry-00567-00227583-00227791 just wondering where you guys were at x5t-m5Flbry-00568-00227792-00227927 we're kind of busy x5t-m5Flbry-00569-00227928-00228094 what's wrong with you guys like you x5t-m5Flbry-00570-00228096-00228271 don't want to party anymore x5t-m5Flbry-00571-00228271-00228567 not here what's his problem he takes x5t-m5Flbry-00572-00228567-00228615 this stuff x5t-m5Flbry-00573-00228616-00228823 too seriously i don't think you're x5t-m5Flbry-00574-00228823-00228982 welcome here right x5t-m5Flbry-00575-00228983-00229279 i brought this it's not going to really x5t-m5Flbry-00576-00229280-00229631 do you a lot of good right x5t-m5Flbry-00577-00229632-00231082 well what about this x5t-m5Flbry-00578-00231083-00231382 cut it worries me x5t-m5Flbry-00579-00231383-00231519 i'm afraid we're going to get a lot of x5t-m5Flbry-00580-00231519-00231734 grief about this all that's going on x5t-m5Flbry-00581-00231735-00231975 with guns and kids and we might just be x5t-m5Flbry-00582-00231976-00232134 asking for trouble x5t-m5Flbry-00583-00232135-00232482 yeah but if you want to get kids in x5t-m5Flbry-00584-00232483-00232751 theaters x5t-m5Flbry-00585-00232752-00233046 well everywhere especially in a church x5t-m5Flbry-00586-00233048-00233151 yeah but we don't want to get x5t-m5Flbry-00587-00233152-00233479 boycotted or maybe we do boycotting x5t-m5Flbry-00588-00233480-00233655 might be good x5t-m5Flbry-00589-00233656-00233887 man you're crazy oh i don't think you're x5t-m5Flbry-00590-00233888-00234046 one to judge that x5t-m5Flbry-00591-00234048-00234334 still this here in the church might be x5t-m5Flbry-00592-00234335-00234487 more trouble x5t-m5Flbry-00593-00234488-00234910 the kind of trouble that kills you x5t-m5Flbry-00594-00234911-00235282 what difference does it make all the x5t-m5Flbry-00595-00235283-00235855 difference x5t-m5Flbry-00596-00235856-00236071 parker we don't act like that in church x5t-m5Flbry-00597-00236071-00236239 all right i think you better leave this x5t-m5Flbry-00598-00236240-00236406 isn't your thing x5t-m5Flbry-00599-00236407-00236806 my thing right you'd better go x5t-m5Flbry-00600-00236807-00236991 why because you don't fit in here you're x5t-m5Flbry-00601-00236992-00237215 not welcome why not x5t-m5Flbry-00602-00237216-00237519 show some respect man just leave outside x5t-m5Flbry-00603-00237519-00237623 here i'm your friend x5t-m5Flbry-00604-00237623-00237958 yes but but you're just you're just not x5t-m5Flbry-00605-00237959-00238087 welcome here all right you're making me x5t-m5Flbry-00606-00238088-00238239 look bad please leave x5t-m5Flbry-00607-00238240-00238575 leave man you talk about hi x5t-m5Flbry-00608-00238576-00239710 this is cool this is cool i like this x5t-m5Flbry-00609-00239711-00239900 damn it harker x5t-m5Flbry-00610-00239901-00240023 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00611-00240023-00240191 don't ever do that again man that scared x5t-m5Flbry-00612-00240192-00240646 the hell out of me that was the point x5t-m5Flbry-00613-00240648-00240967 we got to get out of here why ray's mad x5t-m5Flbry-00614-00240967-00241094 and wendy's mad x5t-m5Flbry-00615-00241096-00241375 guy's like a baby man what's your point x5t-m5Flbry-00616-00241376-00241439 look x5t-m5Flbry-00617-00241440-00241719 you don't get it ray's got a reason for x5t-m5Flbry-00618-00241719-00241830 getting us up here x5t-m5Flbry-00619-00241831-00242119 story story you get you give harker way x5t-m5Flbry-00620-00242119-00242239 too much credit manny x5t-m5Flbry-00621-00242240-00242479 he's not that smart he couldn't even x5t-m5Flbry-00622-00242480-00242823 plan a bathroom break x5t-m5Flbry-00623-00242823-00243294 story a [__] cut x5t-m5Flbry-00624-00243296-00243758 story get the [__] over here x5t-m5Flbry-00625-00243759-00244046 this could be a great opportunity for us x5t-m5Flbry-00626-00244048-00244415 a chance to have a chance x5t-m5Flbry-00627-00244416-00244719 what chance start the legend of making x5t-m5Flbry-00628-00244719-00244806 this movie x5t-m5Flbry-00629-00244807-00244982 it'll look great on our website maybe x5t-m5Flbry-00630-00244983-00245142 there was an evil x5t-m5Flbry-00631-00245144-00245334 what is it ray are we gonna do this or x5t-m5Flbry-00632-00245335-00245534 not we're doing it ray x5t-m5Flbry-00633-00245535-00245782 then do it faster it takes some time to x5t-m5Flbry-00634-00245783-00245975 set up the shot ray x5t-m5Flbry-00635-00245976-00246303 [__] yes [__] we can handle it x5t-m5Flbry-00636-00246304-00246630 ray now let us work it out x5t-m5Flbry-00637-00246631-00247015 he's drinking again yeah i know and if x5t-m5Flbry-00638-00247016-00247223 we don't hurry we'll never get done x5t-m5Flbry-00639-00247223-00247487 what if accidents happen on this set x5t-m5Flbry-00640-00247488-00247646 people get hurt x5t-m5Flbry-00641-00247648-00247815 the public thinks there is a legend x5t-m5Flbry-00642-00247816-00247991 around the living nightmare the things x5t-m5Flbry-00643-00247992-00248046 happen x5t-m5Flbry-00644-00248048-00248239 real things and i start to wonder what x5t-m5Flbry-00645-00248240-00248391 kind of movie is this x5t-m5Flbry-00646-00248392-00248598 is there more to it than just the movie x5t-m5Flbry-00647-00248600-00248839 itself like what x5t-m5Flbry-00648-00248840-00249198 there will have to be sacrifices x5t-m5Flbry-00649-00249200-00249663 oh no a few accidents here and there x5t-m5Flbry-00650-00249664-00249958 how bad how bad does it have to be it's x5t-m5Flbry-00651-00249959-00250094 all for the movie x5t-m5Flbry-00652-00250096-00250894 we all sacrifice but the scene sets x5t-m5Flbry-00653-00250896-00250951 itself x5t-m5Flbry-00654-00250952-00251239 up for a tragic accident we're talking x5t-m5Flbry-00655-00251240-00251358 about making a film x5t-m5Flbry-00656-00251359-00251582 we can sell we're talking about making x5t-m5Flbry-00657-00251583-00251798 our careers we're talking about making x5t-m5Flbry-00658-00251800-00251894 our lives x5t-m5Flbry-00659-00251896-00252191 matter this is madness it's crazy if we x5t-m5Flbry-00660-00252192-00252382 let this chance slip to our fingers x5t-m5Flbry-00661-00252383-00252510 how many movies do we have to compete x5t-m5Flbry-00662-00252511-00252727 with this is our chance x5t-m5Flbry-00663-00252728-00253055 i can't be a part of it then maybe you x5t-m5Flbry-00664-00253056-00253367 should go over the wall x5t-m5Flbry-00665-00253367-00253623 there's no other way we're doing mike a x5t-m5Flbry-00666-00253623-00253855 favor x5t-m5Flbry-00667-00253856-00254134 does it have to be mike he's the chosen x5t-m5Flbry-00668-00254135-00254319 one forever to be a legend in movie x5t-m5Flbry-00669-00254319-00254534 folklore x5t-m5Flbry-00670-00254535-00255215 there is no other way x5t-m5Flbry-00671-00255216-00255542 god help us all from the top x5t-m5Flbry-00672-00255544-00255958 mike hold your mark at the ledge okay x5t-m5Flbry-00673-00255959-00256191 and make it look as real as you can and x5t-m5Flbry-00674-00256192-00256494 mike it's all for the magic of the movie x5t-m5Flbry-00675-00256496-00256798 thanks sure x5t-m5Flbry-00676-00256800-00257110 whatever it takes you got it all right x5t-m5Flbry-00677-00257111-00257682 and we are rolling x5t-m5Flbry-00678-00257683-00257973 action x5t-m5Flbry-00679-00257973-00259727 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00680-00259728-00260079 take it x5t-m5Flbry-00681-00260080-00260423 go ahead you're gonna need it x5t-m5Flbry-00682-00260423-00261103 they're gonna be after you because of me x5t-m5Flbry-00683-00261104-00261375 and when the time comes send them x5t-m5Flbry-00684-00261376-00262519 straight to hell x5t-m5Flbry-00685-00262520-00262830 so what happened x5t-m5Flbry-00686-00262831-00263110 i'm not sure you better get sure i've x5t-m5Flbry-00687-00263111-00263282 got a dead kid on my hands i want some x5t-m5Flbry-00688-00263283-00263623 answers x5t-m5Flbry-00689-00263624-00263863 i i don't have any for you you were x5t-m5Flbry-00690-00263864-00263982 there story x5t-m5Flbry-00691-00263983-00264375 what happened x5t-m5Flbry-00692-00264376-00264775 it was an accident an accident x5t-m5Flbry-00693-00264776-00264958 yeah the kind that happens every day x5t-m5Flbry-00694-00264959-00265103 officer x5t-m5Flbry-00695-00265104-00265351 you know murder happens every day who x5t-m5Flbry-00696-00265352-00265655 pushed him x5t-m5Flbry-00697-00265656-00265982 i don't know who pushed it i don't x5t-m5Flbry-00698-00265983-00266303 know so somebody did push him x5t-m5Flbry-00699-00266304-00266599 that's not what i said this is not gonna x5t-m5Flbry-00700-00266600-00266903 go away x5t-m5Flbry-00701-00266904-00267271 i told you already i didn't do anything x5t-m5Flbry-00702-00267272-00267919 what about harker do anything okay x5t-m5Flbry-00703-00267920-00268591 you don't know jack do you x5t-m5Flbry-00704-00268592-00268871 recognize her it's a crime scene photo x5t-m5Flbry-00705-00268872-00269071 it's kind of hard to tell it's a girl x5t-m5Flbry-00706-00269072-00269295 take a good look story a real good hard x5t-m5Flbry-00707-00269296-00269527 look i think you know her don't you x5t-m5Flbry-00708-00269528-00269855 i don't think so oh look hard see that's x5t-m5Flbry-00709-00269856-00270006 what happens to a body when it's been x5t-m5Flbry-00710-00270007-00270079 tied up x5t-m5Flbry-00711-00270080-00270327 brutalized and left to rot an abandoned x5t-m5Flbry-00712-00270328-00270495 cabin for a year x5t-m5Flbry-00713-00270496-00270695 you know her and she didn't move to x5t-m5Flbry-00714-00270696-00270809 california x5t-m5Flbry-00715-00270810-00271063 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00716-00271064-00271406 you mean that smooth yeah that's moon's x5t-m5Flbry-00717-00271407-00271551 girlfriend x5t-m5Flbry-00718-00271552-00273071 we still haven't found him x5t-m5Flbry-00719-00273072-00273399 what's next you know the cops are x5t-m5Flbry-00720-00273400-00273695 looking for you ray x5t-m5Flbry-00721-00273696-00274063 i'm right here they talked to me about x5t-m5Flbry-00722-00274064-00274382 moon they showed me a picture x5t-m5Flbry-00723-00274383-00274855 of his or what's left of his girlfriend x5t-m5Flbry-00724-00274856-00275175 who you remember x5t-m5Flbry-00725-00275176-00275406 hey you had a gun you could have took x5t-m5Flbry-00726-00275407-00275510 the cops out x5t-m5Flbry-00727-00275511-00275855 show a little backbone you little [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00728-00275856-00276191 that picture jesus x5t-m5Flbry-00729-00276192-00276927 what did you do to her i didn't touch it x5t-m5Flbry-00730-00276928-00277295 i saw the picture then who did moon x5t-m5Flbry-00731-00277296-00277655 moon did that to her imagine that x5t-m5Flbry-00732-00277656-00278079 why would mine do such a thing x5t-m5Flbry-00733-00278080-00278447 what happened to me anyway the cops sure x5t-m5Flbry-00734-00278448-00279227 as hell don't seem to know x5t-m5Flbry-00735-00279228-00279734 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00736-00279735-00280582 oh you just tried to get away x5t-m5Flbry-00737-00280583-00281775 crazy run you're right let's go x5t-m5Flbry-00738-00281776-00282503 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00739-00282504-00283095 you know story i've always loved you x5t-m5Flbry-00740-00283096-00285271 i will always love these stories x5t-m5Flbry-00741-00285272-00286254 head of yours x5t-m5Flbry-00742-00286255-00286710 remember this there is no escape x5t-m5Flbry-00743-00286711-00287610 you are next x5t-m5Flbry-00744-00287611-00288482 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00745-00288483-00289552 so x5t-m5Flbry-00746-00289553-00291881 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00747-00291882-00292682 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00748-00292683-00293164 so x5t-m5Flbry-00749-00293165-00294517 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00750-00294518-00295206 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00751-00295207-00296015 mo i'm always in here x5t-m5Flbry-00752-00296016-00296310 hmm you think that's him yeah it's hard x5t-m5Flbry-00753-00296311-00296615 to tell by looking at him but that's him x5t-m5Flbry-00754-00296616-00296799 who called in the information i don't x5t-m5Flbry-00755-00296800-00296982 know just a male voice on the phone x5t-m5Flbry-00756-00296983-00297254 didn't leave your name x5t-m5Flbry-00757-00297255-00297639 what is that crazy harker bastard up to x5t-m5Flbry-00758-00297640-00297775 because we have to wait and see who x5t-m5Flbry-00759-00297776-00297958 knows x5t-m5Flbry-00760-00297959-00298703 i'm not waiting x5t-m5Flbry-00761-00298704-00298927 how'd he find us he just seems to x5t-m5Flbry-00762-00298928-00299023 [__] know x5t-m5Flbry-00763-00299024-00299367 drive tight time well what if he catches x5t-m5Flbry-00764-00299368-00299719 us then we're all dead x5t-m5Flbry-00765-00299720-00299989 you'll never be the man he is dory x5t-m5Flbry-00766-00299990-00300199 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00767-00300200-00300591 i sure hope not god well we have to do x5t-m5Flbry-00768-00300592-00300710 something x5t-m5Flbry-00769-00300711-00300871 you know this is exactly how i want to x5t-m5Flbry-00770-00300872-00301071 be remembered x5t-m5Flbry-00771-00301072-00301287 maybe he'll back off yeah right it's x5t-m5Flbry-00772-00301288-00301391 your fault story x5t-m5Flbry-00773-00301392-00301704 it's not my fault then who can we blame x5t-m5Flbry-00774-00301705-00302127 [Applause] x5t-m5Flbry-00775-00302128-00302673 you can blame me we're all dead x5t-m5Flbry-00776-00302674-00303671 [Applause] x5t-m5Flbry-00777-00303672-00304023 this is [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00778-00304024-00304167 if he catches us we're dead don't you x5t-m5Flbry-00779-00304168-00304343 understand i'm not running x5t-m5Flbry-00780-00304344-00304903 what's your problem raise my problem god x5t-m5Flbry-00781-00304904-00305479 mercy percy x5t-m5Flbry-00782-00305480-00305823 well the scene still doesn't work x5t-m5Flbry-00783-00305824-00306271 losing mike helped but still flat x5t-m5Flbry-00784-00306272-00306567 well i guess we can't use mike anymore x5t-m5Flbry-00785-00306568-00306734 he served his purpose x5t-m5Flbry-00786-00306735-00306999 he made the sacrifice the publicity x5t-m5Flbry-00787-00307000-00307263 we've gotten will help x5t-m5Flbry-00788-00307264-00307479 help the cops have been chasing me all x5t-m5Flbry-00789-00307480-00307606 over town x5t-m5Flbry-00790-00307607-00307863 well that just helps the legend grow in x5t-m5Flbry-00791-00307864-00307934 the end x5t-m5Flbry-00792-00307935-00308191 it will be our saving grace well i just x5t-m5Flbry-00793-00308192-00308454 think we got our necks stuck too far out x5t-m5Flbry-00794-00308455-00308758 way too far what could you be talking x5t-m5Flbry-00795-00308759-00308854 about x5t-m5Flbry-00796-00308855-00309087 you know exactly what i'm talking about x5t-m5Flbry-00797-00309088-00309167 it's not x5t-m5Flbry-00798-00309168-00309519 our next it's rey's yeah but you won't x5t-m5Flbry-00799-00309520-00309743 know what he'll tell everything he knows x5t-m5Flbry-00800-00309744-00310030 he'll do anything to save his ass he's x5t-m5Flbry-00801-00310031-00310230 gonna have to tell them pretty soon x5t-m5Flbry-00802-00310231-00310534 his time is running out we haven't got x5t-m5Flbry-00803-00310535-00310767 that much principal photography left x5t-m5Flbry-00804-00310768-00311087 after that or maybe during that rey can x5t-m5Flbry-00805-00311088-00311447 become part of the legend x5t-m5Flbry-00806-00311448-00311727 what about the police the police know x5t-m5Flbry-00807-00311728-00312047 just what we want them to know x5t-m5Flbry-00808-00312048-00312447 yes jesus ray's got a lot of problems x5t-m5Flbry-00809-00312448-00312982 he deserves the same honor as mike x5t-m5Flbry-00810-00312983-00313334 our futures ray needs to make his x5t-m5Flbry-00811-00313335-00313679 sacrifice x5t-m5Flbry-00812-00313680-00313999 i don't think so you don't have a choice x5t-m5Flbry-00813-00314000-00314167 you will never see it coming and neither x5t-m5Flbry-00814-00314168-00314439 will ray this is the way of things story x5t-m5Flbry-00815-00314440-00314854 the big fish eat the little fish x5t-m5Flbry-00816-00314855-00315127 what the [__] i can't be out here all x5t-m5Flbry-00817-00315128-00315247 [__] night x5t-m5Flbry-00818-00315248-00315447 the last thing we want is for you to x5t-m5Flbry-00819-00315448-00315551 suffer ray x5t-m5Flbry-00820-00315552-00315775 let's [__] do this [__] then we know x5t-m5Flbry-00821-00315776-00316047 ray you're an important man x5t-m5Flbry-00822-00316048-00316287 damn right in fact why don't you go on x5t-m5Flbry-00823-00316288-00316351 home ray x5t-m5Flbry-00824-00316352-00316567 get some rest you've got a big scene on x5t-m5Flbry-00825-00316568-00316727 friday x5t-m5Flbry-00826-00316728-00316975 listen [__] i'll tell i'll tell x5t-m5Flbry-00827-00316976-00317167 every [__] thing i know x5t-m5Flbry-00828-00317168-00317519 oh that's not a very good idea ray x5t-m5Flbry-00829-00317520-00318414 your [__] problem i don't know x5t-m5Flbry-00830-00318415-00318527 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00831-00318528-00318751 you don't know who you were with do you x5t-m5Flbry-00832-00318752-00319015 know how deep you are into this x5t-m5Flbry-00833-00319016-00319334 i'm trying to help you help me x5t-m5Flbry-00834-00319335-00319654 we finally located moon did he confess x5t-m5Flbry-00835-00319655-00320023 he's dead son he's dead x5t-m5Flbry-00836-00320024-00320239 jesus now do you want to tell me who you x5t-m5Flbry-00837-00320240-00320527 were with x5t-m5Flbry-00838-00320528-00320695 look i don't know what hark has got x5t-m5Flbry-00839-00320696-00320847 planned but i'm gonna be there and i'm x5t-m5Flbry-00840-00320848-00320919 gonna come down x5t-m5Flbry-00841-00320920-00321287 hard on that crazy son of a [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00842-00321288-00321495 we're gonna help you in spite of x5t-m5Flbry-00843-00321496-00321663 yourself x5t-m5Flbry-00844-00321664-00321871 i don't want anyone to get hurt story x5t-m5Flbry-00845-00321872-00322167 not even you i ought to lock your ass up x5t-m5Flbry-00846-00322168-00322391 but i'm not going to x5t-m5Flbry-00847-00322392-00322710 maybe you'll take care of my daughter x5t-m5Flbry-00848-00322711-00323087 you owe me story but time may be running x5t-m5Flbry-00849-00323088-00323199 out x5t-m5Flbry-00850-00323200-00323630 for all of you x5t-m5Flbry-00851-00323631-00324047 oh x5t-m5Flbry-00852-00324048-00324406 i have had enough of this [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00853-00324407-00324751 i don't care how nice her tits are x5t-m5Flbry-00854-00324752-00324934 i'll reshoot i've reshot once i'll x5t-m5Flbry-00855-00324935-00325110 reshoot again i want her x5t-m5Flbry-00856-00325111-00325439 gone and this x5t-m5Flbry-00857-00325440-00325910 [__] yeah bad acting and all x5t-m5Flbry-00858-00325911-00326247 he'll get his my daddy says you're not x5t-m5Flbry-00859-00326248-00326375 gonna make it x5t-m5Flbry-00860-00326376-00326558 my daddy says you're a piece of [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00861-00326559-00326839 loser x5t-m5Flbry-00862-00326840-00327175 and daddy knows i don't ever x5t-m5Flbry-00863-00327176-00327527 wanna see that [__] again x5t-m5Flbry-00864-00327528-00328078 story why do i love you so much x5t-m5Flbry-00865-00328079-00328287 you know i don't think you're gonna make x5t-m5Flbry-00867-00334557-00334682 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00868-00334683-00336082 foreign x5t-m5Flbry-00869-00336083-00337743 foreign x5t-m5Flbry-00870-00337744-00337910 how's it feel being up on stage little x5t-m5Flbry-00871-00337911-00338254 man x5t-m5Flbry-00872-00338255-00338678 you are a little man x5t-m5Flbry-00873-00338679-00338967 what's that suppose it means the big x5t-m5Flbry-00874-00338968-00339071 fish x5t-m5Flbry-00875-00339072-00339751 eat the little fish x5t-m5Flbry-00876-00339752-00339991 it's hard being a little man leave me x5t-m5Flbry-00877-00339992-00340119 alone x5t-m5Flbry-00878-00340120-00340591 hey i'm on your side x5t-m5Flbry-00879-00340592-00340895 why does she treat me like that you're x5t-m5Flbry-00880-00340896-00341087 weak x5t-m5Flbry-00881-00341088-00341367 but i can make you strong you can be x5t-m5Flbry-00882-00341368-00341495 just like me x5t-m5Flbry-00883-00341496-00341831 i don't want to be like you x5t-m5Flbry-00884-00341832-00342095 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00885-00342096-00342391 how about that look at that big stud x5t-m5Flbry-00886-00342392-00343047 dancing with your girl x5t-m5Flbry-00887-00343048-00343380 she always was a [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00888-00343381-00344927 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00889-00344928-00346006 he's not such a big fish now x5t-m5Flbry-00890-00346007-00346310 what have you done to me x5t-m5Flbry-00891-00346311-00346863 nothing i haven't done [__] to you x5t-m5Flbry-00892-00346864-00347063 none of this is happening you're making x5t-m5Flbry-00893-00347064-00347287 me see things x5t-m5Flbry-00894-00347288-00347551 i've got to turn you in a man everybody x5t-m5Flbry-00895-00347552-00347695 laughs at you x5t-m5Flbry-00896-00347696-00347903 you're a [__] joke i can't be like x5t-m5Flbry-00897-00347904-00348158 you oh yes you can x5t-m5Flbry-00898-00348159-00348503 you can be whatever i want you to be x5t-m5Flbry-00899-00348504-00348775 i'm gonna make you into the biggest fish x5t-m5Flbry-00900-00348776-00348830 and this x5t-m5Flbry-00901-00348831-00349143 is just the beginning x5t-m5Flbry-00902-00349144-00349454 where does it end x5t-m5Flbry-00903-00349455-00350439 in hell x5t-m5Flbry-00904-00350440-00350782 come on story follow me i have the x5t-m5Flbry-00905-00350783-00351047 answer x5t-m5Flbry-00906-00351048-00351430 not so stupid story x5t-m5Flbry-00907-00351431-00351847 keep coming come on story x5t-m5Flbry-00908-00351848-00352167 that's right this way you're not so x5t-m5Flbry-00909-00352168-00352230 stupid x5t-m5Flbry-00910-00352231-00352882 story good x5t-m5Flbry-00911-00352883-00353143 boy x5t-m5Flbry-00912-00353144-00353658 sorry you came x5t-m5Flbry-00913-00353659-00353847 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00914-00353848-00354543 it's been you're such a long long time x5t-m5Flbry-00915-00354544-00355454 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00916-00355455-00355927 i know you can x5t-m5Flbry-00917-00355928-00356303 you're my friend i know you x5t-m5Flbry-00918-00356304-00357082 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00919-00357083-00357503 here x5t-m5Flbry-00920-00357504-00357806 she's moon's girlfriend x5t-m5Flbry-00921-00357807-00358151 she's dead you've done it this time man x5t-m5Flbry-00922-00358152-00359143 you've killed her x5t-m5Flbry-00923-00359144-00359278 you're gonna have to take her with you x5t-m5Flbry-00924-00359279-00359454 story it's the only way x5t-m5Flbry-00925-00359455-00360006 you gotta take her with you run story x5t-m5Flbry-00926-00360007-00360175 you're not leaving her here are you x5t-m5Flbry-00927-00360176-00360719 you've got to take her with you x5t-m5Flbry-00928-00360720-00360910 you cannot leave her here you've got to x5t-m5Flbry-00929-00360911-00361215 take her with you x5t-m5Flbry-00930-00361216-00361358 you're not leaving her here are you x5t-m5Flbry-00931-00361359-00361599 story you've got to take her with you x5t-m5Flbry-00932-00361600-00362278 you have to take her with you x5t-m5Flbry-00933-00362279-00362534 you better run story you better run x5t-m5Flbry-00934-00362535-00362663 faster x5t-m5Flbry-00935-00362664-00362830 now the cops are already here and they x5t-m5Flbry-00936-00362831-00362999 come to get you and you're just going to x5t-m5Flbry-00937-00363000-00363158 leave her here so they'll find her x5t-m5Flbry-00938-00363159-00363319 well if you're not going to take her x5t-m5Flbry-00939-00363320-00363495 i'll give her to you x5t-m5Flbry-00940-00363496-00363687 you know i'm going to make a man out of x5t-m5Flbry-00941-00363688-00365482 you yet x5t-m5Flbry-00942-00365483-00366262 so x5t-m5Flbry-00943-00366263-00368051 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00945-00371424-00373882 all right story right between the eyes x5t-m5Flbry-00946-00373883-00374110 here's x5t-m5Flbry-00947-00374111-00374454 what are they really here x5t-m5Flbry-00948-00374455-00375478 what do you think i don't know x5t-m5Flbry-00949-00375479-00376023 go ahead stew x5t-m5Flbry-00950-00376024-00376182 you'll never be free as long as he's x5t-m5Flbry-00951-00376183-00376358 dogging you it's not x5t-m5Flbry-00952-00376359-00376671 real either way x5t-m5Flbry-00953-00376672-00377278 set yourself free be a man x5t-m5Flbry-00954-00377279-00378023 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00955-00378024-00378534 don't do it larry don't do it man no x5t-m5Flbry-00956-00378535-00379127 this time story right between the eyes x5t-m5Flbry-00957-00379128-00379654 we might have a problem x5t-m5Flbry-00958-00379655-00379982 what the location's not right x5t-m5Flbry-00959-00379983-00380158 because rey is controlling everything x5t-m5Flbry-00960-00380159-00380319 nothing is real that doesn't make any x5t-m5Flbry-00961-00380320-00380391 sense i mean x5t-m5Flbry-00962-00380392-00380551 not that the movie does i don't know x5t-m5Flbry-00963-00380552-00380743 when are we in reality and when's not x5t-m5Flbry-00964-00380744-00380823 when's the dream x5t-m5Flbry-00965-00380824-00381015 it's like a girl i dated in tulsa once x5t-m5Flbry-00966-00381016-00381239 so is this all supposed to be a dream x5t-m5Flbry-00967-00381240-00381471 no it's all a movie but some people have x5t-m5Flbry-00968-00381472-00381558 trouble telling them x5t-m5Flbry-00969-00381559-00381895 i i am lost what you are is not x5t-m5Flbry-00970-00381896-00382023 important x5t-m5Flbry-00971-00382024-00382327 what do you want to do yeah exactly what x5t-m5Flbry-00972-00382328-00382471 do you want to do x5t-m5Flbry-00973-00382472-00383599 it's the location let's cut to x5t-m5Flbry-00974-00383600-00383958 do you get it story do you get this x5t-m5Flbry-00975-00383959-00384215 where are we you'll go where i want you x5t-m5Flbry-00976-00384216-00384295 to go x5t-m5Flbry-00977-00384296-00384558 and you'll be what i want you to be the x5t-m5Flbry-00978-00384559-00384991 cops x5t-m5Flbry-00979-00384992-00385254 cops if i push you in that fire will you x5t-m5Flbry-00980-00385255-00385463 burn x5t-m5Flbry-00981-00385464-00385719 not unless i want you to cut this isn't x5t-m5Flbry-00982-00385720-00386284 working either x5t-m5Flbry-00983-00386285-00386482 [Applause] x5t-m5Flbry-00984-00386483-00387047 [__] x5t-m5Flbry-00985-00387048-00387334 he said leave it unlocked just come x5t-m5Flbry-00986-00387335-00387406 inside x5t-m5Flbry-00987-00387407-00387839 time of our lives we can go back x5t-m5Flbry-00988-00387840-00388143 we can still turn back he can get away x5t-m5Flbry-00989-00388144-00388382 what's wrong with you story the time of x5t-m5Flbry-00990-00388383-00389151 our lives x5t-m5Flbry-00991-00389152-00389897 welcome to my nightmare x5t-m5Flbry-00992-00389898-00390993 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00993-00390994-00391351 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-00994-00391352-00391575 little boy tonight i'm going to make a x5t-m5Flbry-00995-00391576-00391719 man out of you x5t-m5Flbry-00996-00391720-00391967 is it real tonight you get even with all x5t-m5Flbry-00997-00391968-00392071 of them x5t-m5Flbry-00998-00392072-00392614 don't worry i'll handle everything x5t-m5Flbry-00999-00392615-00392958 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01000-00392959-00393287 i knew what he meant all the voices x5t-m5Flbry-01001-00393288-00393695 ray put inside my head they screamed x5t-m5Flbry-01002-00393696-00394030 yet i wasn't man enough not to be the x5t-m5Flbry-01003-00394031-00394319 man ray made me x5t-m5Flbry-01004-00394320-00394687 god spare my soul please spare my soul x5t-m5Flbry-01005-00394688-00394958 there's no turning back we get even with x5t-m5Flbry-01006-00394959-00395015 them x5t-m5Flbry-01007-00395016-00395367 even with all of them then x5t-m5Flbry-01008-00395368-00395647 then you'll get out of my head yeah then x5t-m5Flbry-01009-00395648-00396435 i'll get out of your head x5t-m5Flbry-01010-00396436-00397682 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01011-00397683-00399082 hi x5t-m5Flbry-01012-00399083-00399192 uh x5t-m5Flbry-01013-00399193-00399266 [Applause] x5t-m5Flbry-01014-00399267-00399475 [Laughter] x5t-m5Flbry-01015-00399476-00400468 [Applause] x5t-m5Flbry-01016-00400469-00402249 [Applause] x5t-m5Flbry-01017-00402250-00403282 [Applause] x5t-m5Flbry-01018-00403283-00403468 oh x5t-m5Flbry-01019-00403469-00403863 [Applause] x5t-m5Flbry-01020-00403864-00404430 what's the matter what's the matter baby x5t-m5Flbry-01021-00404431-00404727 everything's gonna be all right x5t-m5Flbry-01022-00404728-00405078 everything's gonna be all right x5t-m5Flbry-01023-00405079-00406527 everything's okay x5t-m5Flbry-01024-00406528-00407331 [Laughter] x5t-m5Flbry-01025-00407332-00408663 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01026-00408664-00408999 what are you doing you stupid idiot x5t-m5Flbry-01027-00409000-00410047 what do we come here for x5t-m5Flbry-01028-00410047-00411047 god is a vengeful god x5t-m5Flbry-01029-00411049-00412857 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01030-00412858-00413082 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01031-00413083-00413359 maybe x5t-m5Flbry-01032-00413360-00414482 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01033-00414483-00414903 ugh x5t-m5Flbry-01034-00414904-00415422 at least you're good at something baby x5t-m5Flbry-01035-00415423-00415791 killer x5t-m5Flbry-01036-00415792-00416047 what's the [__] story you've got a x5t-m5Flbry-01037-00416047-00416222 killer story it's the only way to get me x5t-m5Flbry-01038-00416223-00416287 out of your head x5t-m5Flbry-01039-00416288-00416778 you're scaring me you're scaring me x5t-m5Flbry-01040-00416779-00417174 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01041-00417175-00417905 he's gonna kill us all x5t-m5Flbry-01042-00417906-00419670 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01043-00419671-00420303 it's [__] x5t-m5Flbry-01044-00420304-00421779 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01045-00421780-00422359 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01046-00422360-00423488 there is no escape x5t-m5Flbry-01047-00423489-00424207 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01048-00424208-00424510 blessed are the peacemakers for they x5t-m5Flbry-01049-00424512-00426022 shall die a horrible death x5t-m5Flbry-01050-00426022-00427185 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01051-00427185-00429883 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01052-00429884-00430002 yes x5t-m5Flbry-01053-00430003-00431295 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01054-00431296-00431667 now x5t-m5Flbry-01056-00435484-00435885 so x5t-m5Flbry-01057-00435887-00436559 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01058-00436560-00436883 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01059-00436884-00437197 wow x5t-m5Flbry-01060-00437199-00438231 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01061-00438232-00438463 it's killer time x5t-m5Flbry-01062-00438464-00441083 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01063-00441084-00443463 so x5t-m5Flbry-01064-00443464-00444187 you stupid idiot x5t-m5Flbry-01065-00444188-00445479 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01066-00445480-00445814 damn it you always were lucky story x5t-m5Flbry-01067-00445815-00445939 party on x5t-m5Flbry-01068-00445939-00446718 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01069-00446719-00448089 jesus x5t-m5Flbry-01070-00448091-00448835 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01071-00448837-00449527 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01072-00449528-00449895 you story now maybe you'll tell me where x5t-m5Flbry-01073-00449896-00450087 harker is x5t-m5Flbry-01074-00450088-00450535 tell me you can't stop him x5t-m5Flbry-01075-00450535-00451068 we can die trying x5t-m5Flbry-01076-00451070-00452335 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01077-00452335-00455083 i followed him and he led me into hell x5t-m5Flbry-01078-00455084-00456110 um x5t-m5Flbry-01079-00456112-00456527 you got it no x5t-m5Flbry-01080-00456528-00456649 no x5t-m5Flbry-01081-00456650-00457834 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01082-00457835-00458935 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01083-00458935-00459183 this is the funnest thing i've ever done x5t-m5Flbry-01084-00459184-00459318 story this is x5t-m5Flbry-01085-00459319-00460391 so much fun x5t-m5Flbry-01086-00460392-00460679 you know you really are a stupid piece x5t-m5Flbry-01087-00460680-00461160 of [__] [__] x5t-m5Flbry-01088-00461162-00461839 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01089-00461839-00462039 this is going up for you now story x5t-m5Flbry-01090-00462039-00462199 you've got to be stopped the only thing x5t-m5Flbry-01091-00462200-00462943 that'll stop me is a silver bullet x5t-m5Flbry-01092-00462943-00463327 it was either him or me x5t-m5Flbry-01093-00463328-00464399 run story run x5t-m5Flbry-01094-00464400-00465231 where are you story x5t-m5Flbry-01095-00465232-00467255 run you dumb piece of [__] x5t-m5Flbry-01096-00467256-00467839 peekaboo i see you x5t-m5Flbry-01097-00467839-00470696 hide you dumb piece of [__] x5t-m5Flbry-01098-00470697-00472279 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01099-00472280-00472639 good morning sunshine wasn't that a x5t-m5Flbry-01100-00472639-00473447 long fun night x5t-m5Flbry-01101-00473447-00473655 even a dumb piece of [__] like you has x5t-m5Flbry-01102-00473656-00473959 to have fun x5t-m5Flbry-01103-00473960-00474143 well not the best damn party you've ever x5t-m5Flbry-01104-00474143-00474687 been to x5t-m5Flbry-01105-00474688-00475052 all x5t-m5Flbry-01106-00475053-00475287 [Laughter] x5t-m5Flbry-01108-00480376-00482053 i'll see you in your dreams story x5t-m5Flbry-01110-00485104-00485591 and that was real x5t-m5Flbry-01111-00485592-00485903 i can't say ray's still x5t-m5Flbry-01112-00485904-00486239 out there i wouldn't know i never go out x5t-m5Flbry-01113-00486239-00486335 there x5t-m5Flbry-01114-00486335-00486855 you've been safe here yes x5t-m5Flbry-01115-00486856-00487416 and now i've come to save you x5t-m5Flbry-01116-00487417-00487614 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01117-00487616-00487951 [Laughter] x5t-m5Flbry-01118-00487952-00488375 ain't life a [__] this one x5t-m5Flbry-01119-00488376-00488670 is loaded with a silver bullet and out x5t-m5Flbry-01120-00488671-00488727 there x5t-m5Flbry-01121-00488728-00488966 it'll just be you and me and my x5t-m5Flbry-01122-00488967-00489151 cameraman x5t-m5Flbry-01123-00489152-00489479 we'll get rid of our little ray problem x5t-m5Flbry-01124-00489480-00489839 so the legend grows x5t-m5Flbry-01125-00489839-00490239 welcome to my winter wonderland story x5t-m5Flbry-01126-00490239-00490422 there was no church you've been right x5t-m5Flbry-01127-00490423-00490647 here with me all along x5t-m5Flbry-01128-00490647-00491014 you a priest did you believe that x5t-m5Flbry-01129-00491015-00491303 what kind of dumb piece of [__] are you x5t-m5Flbry-01130-00491304-00491383 look around x5t-m5Flbry-01131-00491384-00491695 see my pump it fuels my madness x5t-m5Flbry-01132-00491696-00491910 this is my world story everything that x5t-m5Flbry-01133-00491912-00492087 comes and goes is mine x5t-m5Flbry-01134-00492088-00492679 even you are mine story x5t-m5Flbry-01135-00492680-00492831 we always knew it come down to this x5t-m5Flbry-01136-00492832-00492999 story me x5t-m5Flbry-01137-00493000-00493310 and you but this time x5t-m5Flbry-01138-00493312-00494283 it's all real stop you with the silver x5t-m5Flbry-01139-00494284-00494972 bullet x5t-m5Flbry-01140-00494974-00495683 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01141-00495684-00496159 so x5t-m5Flbry-01142-00496160-00496439 no no no ray no it'll ruin it'll ruin x5t-m5Flbry-01143-00496439-00496614 everything right don't x5t-m5Flbry-01144-00496615-00496959 wait don't ruin everything don't let it x5t-m5Flbry-01145-00496960-00497143 end this way right you can't end this x5t-m5Flbry-01146-00497143-00497207 way x5t-m5Flbry-01147-00497208-00498483 no ray no it can't end x5t-m5Flbry-01148-00498484-00500103 [__] x5t-m5Flbry-01149-00500104-00500310 ray harker's coming to your town and x5t-m5Flbry-01150-00500312-00502683 it's gonna be killer x5t-m5Flbry-01151-00502684-00502885 so x5t-m5Flbry-01152-00502885-00503618 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01153-00503618-00504083 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01154-00504084-00506379 uh x5t-m5Flbry-01155-00506380-00506883 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01156-00506884-00507083 foreign x5t-m5Flbry-01157-00507084-00508283 [Music] x5t-m5Flbry-01158-00508284-00509783 so x5t-m5Flbry-01159-00509784-00509992 you x7Og3g-IHzy-00000-00000056-00000083 [Music] x7Og3g-IHzy-00001-00000084-00000580 foreign x7Og3g-IHzy-00002-00000581-00003163 [Music] x7Og3g-IHzy-00003-00003164-00003503 week of public transport this exhibition x7Og3g-IHzy-00004-00003504-00003683 among other things contains an x7Og3g-IHzy-00005-00003684-00003913 exhibition of electric transport x7Og3g-IHzy-00006-00003914-00004175 and so x7Og3g-IHzy-00007-00004176-00004456 we're exhibiting our products here here x7Og3g-IHzy-00008-00004457-00004619 we present an electric motorbike x7Og3g-IHzy-00009-00004620-00004931 produced in series by the company ASAP x7Og3g-IHzy-00010-00004932-00005220 Way High x7Og3g-IHzy-00011-00005221-00005602 we have also presented a jealous winch x7Og3g-IHzy-00012-00005603-00005818 as well as a traction motor x7Og3g-IHzy-00013-00005819-00006215 industrial motors for manual tools it is x7Og3g-IHzy-00014-00006216-00006427 the first day of the event x7Og3g-IHzy-00015-00006428-00006742 things are going fine here x7Og3g-IHzy-00016-00006743-00006970 the scale is not as big as an x7Og3g-IHzy-00017-00006972-00007255 international Forum Army 2022 x7Og3g-IHzy-00018-00007256-00007895 our stand does not look as impressive x7Og3g-IHzy-00019-00007895-00008117 but despite the fact that it doesn't x7Og3g-IHzy-00020-00008118-00008327 look that beautiful we have quite many x7Og3g-IHzy-00021-00008328-00008464 exhibits x7Og3g-IHzy-00022-00008465-00008795 that we can share x7Og3g-IHzy-00023-00008796-00009028 that we can inform people about and it x7Og3g-IHzy-00024-00009029-00009227 is very good x7Og3g-IHzy-00025-00009228-00009610 because apart from hundreds of motors x7Og3g-IHzy-00026-00009611-00009833 with combined windings functioning all x7Og3g-IHzy-00027-00009834-00010073 over the world x7Og3g-IHzy-00028-00010074-00010283 now we have the possibility to saturate x7Og3g-IHzy-00029-00010284-00010577 the market with gearless left winches x7Og3g-IHzy-00030-00010578-00010873 and unique drives for Electro transport x7Og3g-IHzy-00031-00010874-00011188 both for light Vehicles World Vehicles x7Og3g-IHzy-00032-00011189-00011471 two-wheel Vehicles buses construction x7Og3g-IHzy-00033-00011472-00011771 equipment special equipment major x7Og3g-IHzy-00034-00011772-00011992 equipment so we will see how it goes we x7Og3g-IHzy-00035-00011993-00012238 will keep him in the know x7Og3g-IHzy-00036-00012239-00012570 foreign x7Og3g-IHzy-00038-00015684-00015832 foreign x7Og3g-IHzy-00039-00015833-00018502 [Music] x7Og3g-IHzy-00040-00018503-00019655 [Music] x7Og3g-IHzy-00041-00019656-00019785 foreign x7Og3g-IHzy-00042-00019786-00021169 [Music] x7Og3g-IHzy-00043-00021170-00021497 [Applause] x7Og3g-IHzy-00044-00021498-00023722 [Music] x7Og3g-IHzy-00045-00023723-00023926 foreign x7Og3g-IHzy-00047-00027480-00027852 [Music] xr3W1mtzybQ-00000-00000354-00000580 well good afternoon all we're glad you xr3W1mtzybQ-00001-00000581-00000761 could join us for this full safely xr3W1mtzybQ-00002-00000762-00001037 grants webinar I have with me Harvey xr3W1mtzybQ-00003-00001038-00001265 Kincaid and Barbara little xr3W1mtzybQ-00004-00001266-00001469 and I'm Jonathan xr3W1mtzybQ-00005-00001470-00001709 if you have any questions uh throughout xr3W1mtzybQ-00006-00001710-00002014 this uh webinar of a technical nature xr3W1mtzybQ-00007-00002016-00002251 you can send me an email at J xr3W1mtzybQ-00008-00002252-00002626 m-i-d-g-e-t-t at cpsc.gov or to Consumer xr3W1mtzybQ-00009-00002627-00002725 Ombudsman xr3W1mtzybQ-00010-00002726-00003095 cpsc.gov and we'll try to help you out xr3W1mtzybQ-00011-00003096-00003274 um also I want to highlight the fact xr3W1mtzybQ-00012-00003275-00003538 that closed captioning is available uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00013-00003539-00003797 in the bottom left hand side of your xr3W1mtzybQ-00014-00003797-00004072 screen the CC icon will bring up closed xr3W1mtzybQ-00015-00004073-00004372 captioning and we are recording this xr3W1mtzybQ-00016-00004373-00004704 session uh for future questions xr3W1mtzybQ-00017-00004705-00004972 and at the end we'll be able to take xr3W1mtzybQ-00018-00004973-00005183 some more questions but we'll be xr3W1mtzybQ-00019-00005184-00005369 recording questions as well too just so xr3W1mtzybQ-00020-00005370-00005506 everybody knows xr3W1mtzybQ-00021-00005507-00005747 so uh any other things that I forget xr3W1mtzybQ-00022-00005748-00005872 anything xr3W1mtzybQ-00023-00005873-00006341 Harvey you are up and the floors yours xr3W1mtzybQ-00024-00006342-00006653 okay thank you Jonathan uh my name is xr3W1mtzybQ-00025-00006654-00006856 Harvey Kincaid I'm a grants management xr3W1mtzybQ-00026-00006858-00007187 uh specialist here at uh consumer xr3W1mtzybQ-00027-00007188-00007414 product safety commission and I am here xr3W1mtzybQ-00028-00007415-00007625 to talk to you about the pool safely xr3W1mtzybQ-00029-00007626-00007914 grant program or uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00030-00007915-00008242 psgp and the pool safely grant program xr3W1mtzybQ-00031-00008243-00008453 was authorized by the Virginia Graham xr3W1mtzybQ-00032-00008454-00008735 Baker Act there have been a few changes xr3W1mtzybQ-00033-00008736-00008933 uh this year xr3W1mtzybQ-00034-00008934-00009233 and uh we'll be talking about those as xr3W1mtzybQ-00035-00009234-00009514 we uh as we discuss them but if it's uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00036-00009515-00009749 if it's a program you've looked at xr3W1mtzybQ-00037-00009750-00009881 before xr3W1mtzybQ-00038-00009882-00010139 um please uh stay tuned and uh we'll xr3W1mtzybQ-00039-00010140-00010385 talk about those changes uh you may find xr3W1mtzybQ-00040-00010386-00010589 the announcement on xr3W1mtzybQ-00041-00010590-00011477 um grants.gov and it's uh cpsc 23-001 xr3W1mtzybQ-00042-00011478-00011878 see where we at here we go xr3W1mtzybQ-00043-00011879-00012227 is that sharing now xr3W1mtzybQ-00044-00012228-00012503 yeah it looks like it is yeah xr3W1mtzybQ-00045-00012504-00012719 Dan can you give me a thumbs up that we xr3W1mtzybQ-00046-00012720-00013247 are sharing our screen xr3W1mtzybQ-00047-00013247-00013486 that's good okay good thank you xr3W1mtzybQ-00048-00013487-00013630 excellent xr3W1mtzybQ-00049-00013631-00013877 uh so uh here first let's talk about xr3W1mtzybQ-00050-00013878-00014069 some of the objectives xr3W1mtzybQ-00051-00014069-00014147 um xr3W1mtzybQ-00052-00014147-00014411 uh here uh to start I want to just xr3W1mtzybQ-00053-00014412-00014638 provide an overview and xr3W1mtzybQ-00054-00014640-00014866 um prior to discussing the purpose I do xr3W1mtzybQ-00055-00014868-00015125 want to address eligibility uh there are xr3W1mtzybQ-00056-00015126-00015227 a couple of xr3W1mtzybQ-00057-00015228-00015449 um different eligibility requirements xr3W1mtzybQ-00058-00015450-00015694 and uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00059-00015695-00015766 um xr3W1mtzybQ-00060-00015768-00016085 those need to be addressed first so you xr3W1mtzybQ-00061-00016086-00016355 can decide if if this is if you qualify xr3W1mtzybQ-00062-00016356-00016594 for this grant program uh and then we'll xr3W1mtzybQ-00063-00016595-00016847 talk a little bit about the purpose uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00064-00016848-00017033 we'll go into the application and the xr3W1mtzybQ-00065-00017034-00017291 review process uh we'll talk a little xr3W1mtzybQ-00066-00017292-00017447 bit about the post-award information xr3W1mtzybQ-00067-00017448-00017735 meaning the notice of award and some of xr3W1mtzybQ-00068-00017736-00018053 the some of the general expectations xr3W1mtzybQ-00069-00018054-00018394 um that uh that will be required if you xr3W1mtzybQ-00070-00018395-00018647 apply and do receive a grant award and xr3W1mtzybQ-00071-00018648-00018857 then finally I'll provide xr3W1mtzybQ-00072-00018858-00019157 um my name and my email address there at xr3W1mtzybQ-00073-00019158-00019391 the end if you have any questions or xr3W1mtzybQ-00074-00019392-00019577 want to follow up on something you'll be xr3W1mtzybQ-00075-00019578-00019907 able to contact myself uh in addition uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00076-00019908-00020141 you'll be able to contact Janet Davis xr3W1mtzybQ-00077-00020142-00020453 who I believe is joining us online uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00078-00020454-00020764 she is my uh grants management official xr3W1mtzybQ-00079-00020765-00021161 that we work with closely uh so uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00080-00021162-00021413 there'll be an opportunity to contact us xr3W1mtzybQ-00081-00021414-00021772 I do believe we'll also put this uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00082-00021773-00021899 PowerPoint xr3W1mtzybQ-00083-00021900-00022253 um presentation up on the uh agency's xr3W1mtzybQ-00084-00022254-00022589 website as well xr3W1mtzybQ-00085-00022590-00023039 okay xr3W1mtzybQ-00086-00023040-00023399 let's see oh yeah there we go one more xr3W1mtzybQ-00087-00023400-00023519 there we are xr3W1mtzybQ-00088-00023520-00023789 okay uh here to talk about uh the xr3W1mtzybQ-00089-00023790-00024071 overview uh again the pool safely grant xr3W1mtzybQ-00090-00024072-00024328 program is uh authorized by the Virginia xr3W1mtzybQ-00091-00024329-00024544 Graham Baker Act xr3W1mtzybQ-00092-00024545-00024821 um the the law has been in effect for a xr3W1mtzybQ-00093-00024822-00025007 number of years and it was reauthorized xr3W1mtzybQ-00094-00025008-00025211 uh just this year xr3W1mtzybQ-00095-00025212-00025517 um it was the last time I was checking I xr3W1mtzybQ-00096-00025518-00025805 did not see it uh online yet but the uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00097-00025806-00026008 reauthorization could be found uh there xr3W1mtzybQ-00098-00026010-00026257 at the second bullet Public Law xr3W1mtzybQ-00099-00026258-00026573 117328 it's probably fairly big but the xr3W1mtzybQ-00100-00026574-00026920 uh division BB title IV uh will get you xr3W1mtzybQ-00101-00026922-00027173 to the cpsc and the Virginia Graham xr3W1mtzybQ-00102-00027174-00027562 Baker Act portion uh uh of the public xr3W1mtzybQ-00103-00027563-00027701 law xr3W1mtzybQ-00104-00027702-00028014 um it's codified at 15 USC xr3W1mtzybQ-00105-00028016-00028307 8004 again xr3W1mtzybQ-00106-00028308-00028468 um at some point xr3W1mtzybQ-00107-00028469-00028781 um the the websites uh that provide xr3W1mtzybQ-00108-00028782-00029039 citations will will catch up and you'll xr3W1mtzybQ-00109-00029039-00029212 be able to see xr3W1mtzybQ-00110-00029213-00029399 um the reauthorization language in there xr3W1mtzybQ-00111-00029400-00029561 but uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00112-00029562-00029746 um but you can take a look there and and xr3W1mtzybQ-00113-00029747-00029987 much of what we we discussed we will xr3W1mtzybQ-00114-00029988-00030174 discuss here as far as xr3W1mtzybQ-00115-00030175-00030502 legal eligibility and applicant xr3W1mtzybQ-00116-00030504-00030862 eligibility uh can be found there uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00117-00030863-00031090 there is a total of 3.5 million dollars xr3W1mtzybQ-00118-00031091-00031361 available uh that includes xr3W1mtzybQ-00119-00031362-00031570 um some prior funding as well as some xr3W1mtzybQ-00120-00031572-00031781 new funding xr3W1mtzybQ-00121-00031782-00032062 um applicants May request of a grant of xr3W1mtzybQ-00122-00032063-00032351 up to four hundred thousand dollars xr3W1mtzybQ-00123-00032352-00032579 um as I indicate elsewhere uh in this xr3W1mtzybQ-00124-00032580-00032699 slide deck xr3W1mtzybQ-00125-00032700-00032933 um the minimum will be about would be xr3W1mtzybQ-00126-00032934-00033131 fifty thousand dollars but again up to xr3W1mtzybQ-00127-00033132-00033317 four hundred thousand dollars xr3W1mtzybQ-00128-00033318-00033605 uh given the nature of the funding uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00129-00033606-00033767 that we received from Congress for this xr3W1mtzybQ-00130-00033768-00034073 purpose uh we are making Awards with a xr3W1mtzybQ-00131-00034074-00034271 two-year project period or a two-year xr3W1mtzybQ-00132-00034272-00034631 budget period uh so xr3W1mtzybQ-00133-00034632-00034690 um xr3W1mtzybQ-00134-00034691-00034973 it is many federal grants run on a xr3W1mtzybQ-00135-00034974-00035212 annual with a single year but because of xr3W1mtzybQ-00136-00035213-00035471 the nature of this funding uh there is a xr3W1mtzybQ-00137-00035472-00035765 two-year project period associated with xr3W1mtzybQ-00138-00035766-00035993 this uh with this grant effort xr3W1mtzybQ-00139-00035994-00036221 and then the last bullet here is is xr3W1mtzybQ-00140-00036222-00036545 something that was uh included in in the xr3W1mtzybQ-00141-00036546-00036695 Congressional notes and I did want to xr3W1mtzybQ-00142-00036696-00036935 highlight it here that some aspects of xr3W1mtzybQ-00143-00036936-00037127 the grant proposal may be achieved by xr3W1mtzybQ-00144-00037128-00037289 Contracting with other entities xr3W1mtzybQ-00145-00037290-00037589 including Civic organizations xr3W1mtzybQ-00146-00037590-00037757 um you can think of xr3W1mtzybQ-00147-00037758-00038045 um uh things like uh swimming lessons xr3W1mtzybQ-00148-00038046-00038446 through YMCA or some other uh non-profit xr3W1mtzybQ-00149-00038447-00038621 provider xr3W1mtzybQ-00150-00038622-00039059 um Congress did note that uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00151-00039060-00039311 note uh this relationship with some xr3W1mtzybQ-00152-00039312-00039502 emphasis so I wanted to pass it on to xr3W1mtzybQ-00153-00039503-00039640 you all xr3W1mtzybQ-00154-00039641-00039707 um xr3W1mtzybQ-00155-00039708-00039946 a subcontract relationship is probably xr3W1mtzybQ-00156-00039947-00040246 the best situation it's a slightly xr3W1mtzybQ-00157-00040247-00040462 different relationship than xr3W1mtzybQ-00158-00040463-00040702 um a sub-recipient xr3W1mtzybQ-00159-00040703-00041015 um which uh is a higher level of xr3W1mtzybQ-00160-00041016-00041137 involvement xr3W1mtzybQ-00161-00041138-00041609 so ideally uh uh if you if you do choose xr3W1mtzybQ-00162-00041610-00041830 to work with other other Civic or xr3W1mtzybQ-00163-00041831-00042095 non-profit organizations it would be on xr3W1mtzybQ-00164-00042096-00042785 a contract or a subcontract basis xr3W1mtzybQ-00165-00042786-00043157 uh the federal government provides uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00166-00043158-00043355 what's known as the assistance listings xr3W1mtzybQ-00167-00043356-00043439 now xr3W1mtzybQ-00168-00043440-00043696 it's always been the cfda the catalog of xr3W1mtzybQ-00169-00043697-00043967 federal domestic assistance I still xr3W1mtzybQ-00170-00043968-00044243 refer to it as the cfda uh but if you go xr3W1mtzybQ-00171-00044244-00044524 there all different uh Federal grant xr3W1mtzybQ-00172-00044525-00044758 programs are outlined there and the pool xr3W1mtzybQ-00173-00044759-00044980 safely grant program can be found at xr3W1mtzybQ-00174-00044981-00045318 eight seven Dash excuse me xr3W1mtzybQ-00175-00045319-00045605 87.002 uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00176-00045606-00045827 anytime there's a new grant program they xr3W1mtzybQ-00177-00045828-00046212 have to get listed in this uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00178-00046213-00046751 uh catalog or listing and uh it helps xr3W1mtzybQ-00179-00046752-00047057 inform the public about uh about what xr3W1mtzybQ-00180-00047058-00047212 different Grant programs are out there xr3W1mtzybQ-00181-00047213-00047440 so if you do receive an award you may xr3W1mtzybQ-00182-00047441-00047717 see something 87.002 and that is the uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00183-00047718-00047921 that is the reference again to the xr3W1mtzybQ-00184-00047922-00048202 catalog of federal domestic assistance xr3W1mtzybQ-00185-00048203-00048449 if you go into grants.gov you'll be able xr3W1mtzybQ-00186-00048450-00048658 to find uh the phone number there again xr3W1mtzybQ-00187-00048659-00049061 cpsc-23-001 xr3W1mtzybQ-00188-00049062-00049361 uh and finally here we have the deadline xr3W1mtzybQ-00189-00049362-00049643 and it's also there in grants.gov that xr3W1mtzybQ-00190-00049644-00049811 they must be submitted and this is a xr3W1mtzybQ-00191-00049812-00050351 hard deadline uh by April 30th of 2023 xr3W1mtzybQ-00192-00050352-00050693 um there are possibilities if there's a xr3W1mtzybQ-00193-00050694-00050905 natural disaster or something or or xr3W1mtzybQ-00194-00050906-00051311 grants.gov goes down uh there may be an xr3W1mtzybQ-00195-00051312-00051485 additional window but generally speaking xr3W1mtzybQ-00196-00051486-00051749 uh that is a hard deadline so if you're xr3W1mtzybQ-00197-00051750-00051911 interested in applying please note that xr3W1mtzybQ-00198-00051912-00052402 deadline xr3W1mtzybQ-00199-00052403-00052750 and uh let's see we're at African xr3W1mtzybQ-00200-00052751-00053207 eligibility uh yes uh the the first uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00201-00053208-00053387 spot where I want to discuss our xr3W1mtzybQ-00202-00053388-00053603 eligibility is with the applicant xr3W1mtzybQ-00203-00053604-00053771 eligibility and there is some new xr3W1mtzybQ-00204-00053772-00054071 language here eligible entities are xr3W1mtzybQ-00205-00054072-00054329 governmental State local governments xr3W1mtzybQ-00206-00054329-00054521 have traditionally been xr3W1mtzybQ-00207-00054522-00054947 um eligible to apply uh but uh in the xr3W1mtzybQ-00208-00054948-00055235 reauthorization uh Congress permitted xr3W1mtzybQ-00209-00055236-00055523 that Indian tribes are now eligible to xr3W1mtzybQ-00210-00055524-00055769 apply xr3W1mtzybQ-00211-00055770-00055859 um xr3W1mtzybQ-00212-00055860-00056021 the xr3W1mtzybQ-00213-00056022-00056171 uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00214-00056172-00056387 if you if you are applying and you are xr3W1mtzybQ-00215-00056388-00056753 an Indian tribe uh you'll need to uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00216-00056754-00057023 probably provide some background not all xr3W1mtzybQ-00217-00057024-00057304 Indian tribes are eligible I did take a xr3W1mtzybQ-00218-00057305-00057821 look at the reauthorization law and uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00219-00057822-00058150 there they uh relate to xr3W1mtzybQ-00220-00058151-00058661 25 USC 5304 I know that's uh that's a xr3W1mtzybQ-00221-00058662-00058835 lot as far as a reference but that's xr3W1mtzybQ-00222-00058836-00059099 where the definition of of eligible xr3W1mtzybQ-00223-00059100-00059423 tribes may be found again that reference xr3W1mtzybQ-00224-00059424-00059854 is 25 USC 5304 xr3W1mtzybQ-00225-00059855-00060088 um Indian tribe uh means any Indian xr3W1mtzybQ-00226-00060089-00060275 tribe bander Nation or other organized xr3W1mtzybQ-00227-00060276-00060521 group or Community including any Alaska xr3W1mtzybQ-00228-00060522-00060730 native Village or Regional Village xr3W1mtzybQ-00229-00060732-00061025 Corporation is defined in or established xr3W1mtzybQ-00230-00061026-00061211 pursuant to the Alaska new Lanes xr3W1mtzybQ-00231-00061212-00061511 Settlement Act which is recognized as xr3W1mtzybQ-00232-00061512-00061750 eligible for the special programs and xr3W1mtzybQ-00233-00061751-00061979 services uh provided by the United xr3W1mtzybQ-00234-00061979-00062242 States uh two Indians because of their xr3W1mtzybQ-00235-00062244-00062638 status as Indians uh I read that out in xr3W1mtzybQ-00236-00062639-00062879 part because my understanding from xr3W1mtzybQ-00237-00062879-00063142 speaking to legal counsel is that the xr3W1mtzybQ-00238-00063144-00063509 the shorthand of um federally recognized xr3W1mtzybQ-00239-00063510-00063673 tribes xr3W1mtzybQ-00240-00063674-00063953 is not complete that there could be xr3W1mtzybQ-00241-00063954-00064276 other openings there so uh again if you xr3W1mtzybQ-00242-00064277-00064576 are a tribal organization and you'd like xr3W1mtzybQ-00243-00064577-00064750 to apply or if you have more questions xr3W1mtzybQ-00244-00064751-00064966 please let us know xr3W1mtzybQ-00245-00064967-00065135 um but there is a distinct definition xr3W1mtzybQ-00246-00065136-00065375 there that was provided in the xr3W1mtzybQ-00247-00065376-00065549 reauthorization xr3W1mtzybQ-00248-00065550-00065759 um but again it is new this year that xr3W1mtzybQ-00249-00065760-00066071 Indian tribes are eligible to apply so xr3W1mtzybQ-00250-00066072-00066437 here we have the uh the first prong when xr3W1mtzybQ-00251-00066438-00066671 it comes to eligibility and that is xr3W1mtzybQ-00252-00066672-00066929 applicant eligibility State local state xr3W1mtzybQ-00253-00066930-00067188 or local government or an Indian tribe xr3W1mtzybQ-00254-00067189-00067447 uh the second xr3W1mtzybQ-00255-00067448-00067703 eligibility prong I'm just referring to xr3W1mtzybQ-00256-00067704-00067894 is legal eligibility and you can see xr3W1mtzybQ-00257-00067895-00068213 that under the second bullet here xr3W1mtzybQ-00258-00068214-00068573 um and that is that you have to enact xr3W1mtzybQ-00259-00068574-00068891 um vgba compliant laws and we'll discuss xr3W1mtzybQ-00260-00068892-00069323 that next xr3W1mtzybQ-00261-00069324-00069515 uh the requirement xr3W1mtzybQ-00262-00069516-00069923 um which remains uh the 15 USC 8005 is xr3W1mtzybQ-00263-00069924-00070187 still a good citation uh it was brought xr3W1mtzybQ-00264-00070188-00070499 over in the reauthorization as well as xr3W1mtzybQ-00265-00070500-00070835 we'll see later we are asking uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00266-00070836-00071063 that you support your application xr3W1mtzybQ-00267-00071064-00071381 through an attachment that indicates uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00268-00071382-00071663 that you are legally eligible meaning xr3W1mtzybQ-00269-00071664-00071999 that you have compliant laws uh you will xr3W1mtzybQ-00270-00072000-00072137 need to submit xr3W1mtzybQ-00271-00072138-00072455 um those as part of the attachment xr3W1mtzybQ-00272-00072456-00072761 um the second bullet there or excuse me xr3W1mtzybQ-00273-00072762-00073013 the third main bullet there xr3W1mtzybQ-00274-00073014-00073247 um is that and we address this in our xr3W1mtzybQ-00275-00073248-00073541 FAQs the International Swimming Pool and xr3W1mtzybQ-00276-00073542-00073775 Spa code likely meets these requirements xr3W1mtzybQ-00277-00073776-00074063 but we are still asking uh that you xr3W1mtzybQ-00278-00074064-00074399 provide documentation uh that those laws xr3W1mtzybQ-00279-00074400-00074525 are on the books and that you are xr3W1mtzybQ-00280-00074526-00074915 enforcing them xr3W1mtzybQ-00281-00074916-00075173 okay more specifically uh that legal xr3W1mtzybQ-00282-00075174-00075503 requirement uh involves a couple of xr3W1mtzybQ-00283-00075504-00075665 different items but primarily it xr3W1mtzybQ-00284-00075666-00076037 involves looking at that first uh first xr3W1mtzybQ-00285-00076038-00076153 sub Point xr3W1mtzybQ-00286-00076154-00076373 barriers or xr3W1mtzybQ-00287-00076374-00076756 um enclosures ways to xr3W1mtzybQ-00288-00076757-00076997 um bar entry to the pool that's the xr3W1mtzybQ-00289-00076998-00077338 first prong and then the second one uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00290-00077339-00077567 deals with the number of drains and this xr3W1mtzybQ-00291-00077568-00077915 is again vgba uh Virginia Graham Baker xr3W1mtzybQ-00292-00077916-00078203 Act specific xr3W1mtzybQ-00293-00078204-00078311 um xr3W1mtzybQ-00294-00078312-00078532 the the nature of the problem that xr3W1mtzybQ-00295-00078533-00078743 Congress was seeking to solve here are xr3W1mtzybQ-00296-00078744-00079141 uh was non-compliant drains that that xr3W1mtzybQ-00297-00079142-00079541 caused a bodily harm and here we're xr3W1mtzybQ-00298-00079542-00079756 talking about under that second bullet xr3W1mtzybQ-00299-00079757-00080032 sub bullet uh the number of drains xr3W1mtzybQ-00300-00080033-00080338 unblockable drains or no main drain I am xr3W1mtzybQ-00301-00080339-00080626 no expert here in this this regard but I xr3W1mtzybQ-00302-00080627-00081011 have reviewed the cpsc YouTube series on xr3W1mtzybQ-00303-00081012-00081185 this where it's addressed in great xr3W1mtzybQ-00304-00081186-00081532 detail uh we will review your xr3W1mtzybQ-00305-00081533-00081700 application and your attachment for xr3W1mtzybQ-00306-00081701-00081935 legal sufficiency so you need to be the xr3W1mtzybQ-00307-00081936-00082121 right kind of applicant and then as well xr3W1mtzybQ-00308-00082122-00082499 you need to have the uh vgba compliant xr3W1mtzybQ-00309-00082500-00082775 laws on the books there and as I xr3W1mtzybQ-00310-00082776-00082993 discovered uh this last round of funding xr3W1mtzybQ-00311-00082994-00083243 sometimes those laws are passed by the xr3W1mtzybQ-00312-00083244-00083556 state and it is left up to local xr3W1mtzybQ-00313-00083557-00083782 jurisdictions on whether to enforce xr3W1mtzybQ-00314-00083783-00083932 those xr3W1mtzybQ-00315-00083933-00084112 um that would need to be passed by your xr3W1mtzybQ-00316-00084113-00084388 local jurisdiction as well and forced at xr3W1mtzybQ-00317-00084389-00084629 that level it's not sufficient that xr3W1mtzybQ-00318-00084630-00084773 they're just passed at the state level xr3W1mtzybQ-00319-00084774-00085085 if you are a local applicant they need xr3W1mtzybQ-00320-00085086-00085282 to be enforced at that at that lowest xr3W1mtzybQ-00321-00085283-00085469 level of jurisdiction either the county xr3W1mtzybQ-00322-00085470-00085799 level the the city level xr3W1mtzybQ-00323-00085800-00086117 um but uh that is again a hard xr3W1mtzybQ-00324-00086118-00086350 eligibility requirement it's in the law xr3W1mtzybQ-00325-00086351-00086687 and we ask that you again provide an xr3W1mtzybQ-00326-00086688-00086849 attachment to your application which xr3W1mtzybQ-00327-00086850-00087100 we'll discuss in a minute uh to document xr3W1mtzybQ-00328-00087101-00087431 that xr3W1mtzybQ-00329-00087432-00087647 okay and this is another change with the xr3W1mtzybQ-00330-00087648-00088018 reauthorization that I want to highlight xr3W1mtzybQ-00331-00088019-00088205 um xr3W1mtzybQ-00332-00088206-00088655 under the the prior law it was a 50 50 xr3W1mtzybQ-00333-00088656-00088871 split between what we call enforcement xr3W1mtzybQ-00334-00088872-00089129 funds and what we call education funds xr3W1mtzybQ-00335-00089130-00089429 but the reauthorization that ratio has xr3W1mtzybQ-00336-00089430-00089693 changed and now uh under the xr3W1mtzybQ-00337-00089694-00090082 reauthorization 25 of the funds must be xr3W1mtzybQ-00338-00090083-00090538 spent on uh enforcement and uh up to 75 xr3W1mtzybQ-00339-00090539-00090809 can be spent on on education and we'll xr3W1mtzybQ-00340-00090810-00091055 look at education here in a minute but xr3W1mtzybQ-00341-00091056-00091391 the 25 percent uh used for enforcement xr3W1mtzybQ-00342-00091392-00091649 we're looking again here at the slide to xr3W1mtzybQ-00343-00091650-00091811 hire and train Personnel for the xr3W1mtzybQ-00344-00091812-00092003 implementation of enforcement standards xr3W1mtzybQ-00345-00092004-00092423 under your local law which will be vgba xr3W1mtzybQ-00346-00092424-00092705 compliant and to defray administrative xr3W1mtzybQ-00347-00092706-00092938 costs that may be associated with hiring xr3W1mtzybQ-00348-00092939-00093323 or training or existing uh personnel xr3W1mtzybQ-00349-00093324-00093556 uh during this last round we did get an xr3W1mtzybQ-00350-00093557-00093923 application and they listed uh for xr3W1mtzybQ-00351-00093924-00094018 instance xr3W1mtzybQ-00352-00094019-00094093 um xr3W1mtzybQ-00353-00094094-00094397 lifeguards as providing enforcement and xr3W1mtzybQ-00354-00094398-00094565 that's generally not what we're talking xr3W1mtzybQ-00355-00094566-00094888 about here this is Code Enforcement uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00356-00094889-00095123 it may be housed in different xr3W1mtzybQ-00357-00095124-00095256 local xr3W1mtzybQ-00358-00095257-00095476 different portions of your local xr3W1mtzybQ-00359-00095477-00095837 government uh it may be on the the code xr3W1mtzybQ-00360-00095838-00096065 side it may be recreation parks and xr3W1mtzybQ-00361-00096066-00096256 recreation but xr3W1mtzybQ-00362-00096257-00096479 um but again we're talking about xr3W1mtzybQ-00363-00096480-00096868 enforcing uh the vgba compliant laws as xr3W1mtzybQ-00364-00096869-00097409 far as enforcement is concerned xr3W1mtzybQ-00365-00097410-00097787 and here's the other part of funding xr3W1mtzybQ-00366-00097788-00098015 that that I just mentioned up to 75 xr3W1mtzybQ-00367-00098016-00098225 percent again it can slide you can go xr3W1mtzybQ-00368-00098226-00098429 down a little bit on the on the xr3W1mtzybQ-00369-00098430-00098585 education side and up a little bit on xr3W1mtzybQ-00370-00098586-00098782 the enforcement side these are minimums xr3W1mtzybQ-00371-00098783-00099155 and maximums uh but up to 75 percent may xr3W1mtzybQ-00372-00099156-00099449 be used for education and there you see xr3W1mtzybQ-00373-00099450-00099737 the language uh from the Virginia Graham xr3W1mtzybQ-00374-00099738-00099911 Baker Act which is to educate Pool xr3W1mtzybQ-00375-00099912-00100168 owners pool operators other members of xr3W1mtzybQ-00376-00100169-00100474 the public about the pool and safety uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00377-00100475-00100721 pull and spot safety laws uh there in xr3W1mtzybQ-00378-00100722-00101003 your community uh and about prevention xr3W1mtzybQ-00379-00101004-00101255 of drowning and entrapment in swimming xr3W1mtzybQ-00380-00101256-00101524 pools and spas and again we also xr3W1mtzybQ-00381-00101525-00101897 um uh the law also allows for defraying xr3W1mtzybQ-00382-00101898-00102149 of some of the administrative costs uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00383-00102150-00102382 the prevention of drowning that's where xr3W1mtzybQ-00384-00102383-00102556 we get the possibility of things like xr3W1mtzybQ-00385-00102557-00102766 swimming lessons and other things that xr3W1mtzybQ-00386-00102767-00102899 will xr3W1mtzybQ-00387-00102900-00102977 um xr3W1mtzybQ-00388-00102978-00103366 will help again prevent drowning xr3W1mtzybQ-00389-00103367-00103666 um and other things that we've seen are xr3W1mtzybQ-00390-00103667-00103942 a public information campaigns xr3W1mtzybQ-00391-00103943-00104116 um things of that nature where we're xr3W1mtzybQ-00392-00104117-00104458 educating the public about both the xr3W1mtzybQ-00393-00104459-00104854 um the potential harms as well as uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00394-00104855-00105257 that come with swimming but also the xr3W1mtzybQ-00395-00105258-00105754 um vgba uh portion of of harm such as xr3W1mtzybQ-00396-00105755-00106007 um that relate to the pool pumps and and xr3W1mtzybQ-00397-00106008-00106504 the mechanics of the pool as well xr3W1mtzybQ-00398-00106505-00106727 okay I did want to I've received a xr3W1mtzybQ-00399-00106728-00106984 number of questions uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00400-00106985-00107171 um about this and so I do want to xr3W1mtzybQ-00401-00107172-00107447 address this very specifically funds may xr3W1mtzybQ-00402-00107448-00107623 not be used for pool construction xr3W1mtzybQ-00403-00107624-00107866 Improvement Renovations anything like xr3W1mtzybQ-00404-00107867-00108160 that we've gotten a number of inquiries xr3W1mtzybQ-00405-00108161-00108443 um about local pools and uh things that xr3W1mtzybQ-00406-00108444-00108658 are needed to restore them to a working xr3W1mtzybQ-00407-00108659-00108958 condition I'm all for that unfortunately xr3W1mtzybQ-00408-00108959-00109402 the vgba the bgb ACT those are not xr3W1mtzybQ-00409-00109403-00109799 eligible activities uh related to that xr3W1mtzybQ-00410-00109800-00110075 um are paying lifeguards that's not xr3W1mtzybQ-00411-00110076-00110260 something that the grant program will xr3W1mtzybQ-00412-00110261-00110465 pay for we will pay for lifeguard xr3W1mtzybQ-00413-00110466-00110728 training again looking at the education xr3W1mtzybQ-00414-00110729-00110989 and the drowning prevention goals there xr3W1mtzybQ-00415-00110990-00111257 uh the one thing that I did also want to xr3W1mtzybQ-00416-00111258-00111436 note that didn't make it on the slide xr3W1mtzybQ-00417-00111438-00111725 but I was looking at some applications xr3W1mtzybQ-00418-00111726-00111995 and and saw this and that's maintenance xr3W1mtzybQ-00419-00111996-00112273 so your water test kits things like that xr3W1mtzybQ-00420-00112274-00112510 that stuff that you have to do on your xr3W1mtzybQ-00421-00112511-00112745 on your own generally to keep the pool xr3W1mtzybQ-00422-00112746-00112949 running those are things that would not xr3W1mtzybQ-00423-00112950-00113278 be eligible under the uh pull safely xr3W1mtzybQ-00424-00113279-00113663 grant program xr3W1mtzybQ-00425-00113664-00113825 okay here we're going to talk a little xr3W1mtzybQ-00426-00113826-00114136 bit more about the application again uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00427-00114138-00114502 the requested amount uh can be uh from xr3W1mtzybQ-00428-00114503-00114904 50 000 up to four hundred thousand xr3W1mtzybQ-00429-00114905-00115313 uh there is a page link I really do not xr3W1mtzybQ-00430-00115314-00115613 expect anyone to need to exceed the 80 xr3W1mtzybQ-00431-00115614-00115877 pages I do anticipate that most xr3W1mtzybQ-00432-00115878-00116177 applications will be well below that uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00433-00116178-00116627 but as part of um us us posting uh uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00434-00116628-00116902 the foa and things we have to put in xr3W1mtzybQ-00435-00116903-00117184 some page limits uh there is information xr3W1mtzybQ-00436-00117185-00117407 in the foa about what counts against the xr3W1mtzybQ-00437-00117408-00117640 80 Pages uh but I really do not xr3W1mtzybQ-00438-00117641-00117916 anticipate uh and it's listed there the xr3W1mtzybQ-00439-00117917-00118108 application the budget narratives the xr3W1mtzybQ-00440-00118109-00118354 schedule the Staffing plan uh and any xr3W1mtzybQ-00441-00118355-00118547 other attachments but I really don't xr3W1mtzybQ-00442-00118548-00118816 expect applications to exceed 80 Pages xr3W1mtzybQ-00443-00118817-00118990 uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00444-00118991-00119339 now just to get your foot in the door uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00445-00119340-00119489 we xr3W1mtzybQ-00446-00119490-00119897 um we do need you to submit the sf424 xr3W1mtzybQ-00447-00119898-00120125 we'll look at this later that is the xr3W1mtzybQ-00448-00120126-00120293 standard Federal application it's used xr3W1mtzybQ-00449-00120294-00120521 for all Federal grant applic grant xr3W1mtzybQ-00450-00120522-00120802 programs uh it's not something separate xr3W1mtzybQ-00451-00120803-00121001 you'll need to find it will be provided xr3W1mtzybQ-00452-00121002-00121223 to you in grants.gov when you're xr3W1mtzybQ-00453-00121224-00121366 applying xr3W1mtzybQ-00454-00121367-00121654 um the very very minimum documents you xr3W1mtzybQ-00455-00121655-00121949 would uh you could provide in order to xr3W1mtzybQ-00456-00121950-00122231 be eligible to xr3W1mtzybQ-00457-00122232-00122483 um have a complete application would be xr3W1mtzybQ-00458-00122483-00122831 these 424 sets of documents and then we xr3W1mtzybQ-00459-00122832-00122993 would need something on the state law xr3W1mtzybQ-00460-00122994-00123275 eligibility now I will say that if you xr3W1mtzybQ-00461-00123276-00123508 only submit those two pieces of xr3W1mtzybQ-00462-00123509-00123713 information xr3W1mtzybQ-00463-00123714-00124036 um it's not likely xr3W1mtzybQ-00464-00124038-00124193 um that you'll receive a grant award xr3W1mtzybQ-00465-00124194-00124439 because there's the other attachments xr3W1mtzybQ-00466-00124440-00124607 detail xr3W1mtzybQ-00467-00124608-00124745 um the other things you'll be doing xr3W1mtzybQ-00468-00124746-00124990 under the grant award and quite frankly xr3W1mtzybQ-00469-00124991-00125213 if we get a bunch of applications where xr3W1mtzybQ-00470-00125214-00125465 we have you know a complete application xr3W1mtzybQ-00471-00125466-00125597 meaning xr3W1mtzybQ-00472-00125598-00125860 um all the attachments and everything xr3W1mtzybQ-00473-00125861-00126095 um and you will and someone only submits xr3W1mtzybQ-00474-00126096-00126395 the 424 and the state law eligibility I xr3W1mtzybQ-00475-00126396-00126586 just don't think it will fare well in xr3W1mtzybQ-00476-00126588-00126797 review but I did want to note that the xr3W1mtzybQ-00477-00126798-00127121 424 and the state law eligibility are xr3W1mtzybQ-00478-00127122-00127451 the absolute minimum uh documents that xr3W1mtzybQ-00479-00127452-00127727 you could submit to be eligible to be xr3W1mtzybQ-00480-00127728-00128140 considered under the grant program xr3W1mtzybQ-00481-00128141-00128477 okay here's a little bit of uh standard xr3W1mtzybQ-00482-00128478-00128789 stuff here only one application uh per xr3W1mtzybQ-00483-00128790-00129004 applicant organization xr3W1mtzybQ-00484-00129005-00129275 um so one application from that state xr3W1mtzybQ-00485-00129276-00129436 one application from your local xr3W1mtzybQ-00486-00129438-00129766 community uh or your uh your Indian xr3W1mtzybQ-00487-00129767-00129940 tribe xr3W1mtzybQ-00488-00129941-00130108 um if there's more than one applicant xr3W1mtzybQ-00489-00130109-00130277 we're gonna go with the most recent one xr3W1mtzybQ-00490-00130278-00130445 uh that was xr3W1mtzybQ-00491-00130446-00130690 um validated through grants.gov I really xr3W1mtzybQ-00492-00130691-00130864 don't see this as being a problem but xr3W1mtzybQ-00493-00130865-00131027 there have been situations I imagine xr3W1mtzybQ-00494-00131028-00131273 where multiple applications could have xr3W1mtzybQ-00495-00131274-00131711 been submitted xr3W1mtzybQ-00496-00131712-00131914 okay uh there is a registration xr3W1mtzybQ-00497-00131915-00132149 requirement which I personally uh just xr3W1mtzybQ-00498-00132150-00132359 went through just as a federal employee xr3W1mtzybQ-00499-00132360-00132652 I had to get on grants.gov uh you do xr3W1mtzybQ-00500-00132653-00132863 need to register in grants.gov it will xr3W1mtzybQ-00501-00132864-00133193 handle the entire uh application xr3W1mtzybQ-00502-00133194-00133414 experience xr3W1mtzybQ-00503-00133415-00133631 um now I xr3W1mtzybQ-00504-00133632-00133990 please pay attention to the red language xr3W1mtzybQ-00505-00133991-00134213 here I don't know that it will take a xr3W1mtzybQ-00506-00134214-00134387 month I've left this in this was an xr3W1mtzybQ-00507-00134388-00134597 existing slide deck and I did want to xr3W1mtzybQ-00508-00134598-00134902 leave it in on just because at this xr3W1mtzybQ-00509-00134903-00135269 point with an April 30th deadline the xr3W1mtzybQ-00510-00135270-00135466 registry and and you're interested in xr3W1mtzybQ-00511-00135467-00135773 applying uh you may need to pers pursue xr3W1mtzybQ-00512-00135774-00136025 the registration and then also start xr3W1mtzybQ-00513-00136026-00136295 developing uh the Grant application xr3W1mtzybQ-00514-00136296-00136637 concurrently I don't some of the the xr3W1mtzybQ-00515-00136638-00136895 time there has to deal with validating xr3W1mtzybQ-00516-00136896-00137195 your organization and validating xr3W1mtzybQ-00517-00137196-00137440 um that the person that is working on xr3W1mtzybQ-00518-00137441-00137621 the organization's behalf as an xr3W1mtzybQ-00519-00137622-00137819 authorized representative of that xr3W1mtzybQ-00520-00137820-00138107 organization so I think that that's part xr3W1mtzybQ-00521-00138108-00138352 of part of what may take up to a month I xr3W1mtzybQ-00522-00138353-00138502 don't think it's going to take a month xr3W1mtzybQ-00523-00138503-00138778 of plugging away on grants.gov but I do xr3W1mtzybQ-00524-00138779-00138995 think that the process and the time xr3W1mtzybQ-00525-00138996-00139157 involved in getting all that cleared xr3W1mtzybQ-00526-00139158-00139361 could take up to a month so I just xr3W1mtzybQ-00527-00139362-00139840 wanted to alert you of that possibility xr3W1mtzybQ-00528-00139841-00140116 uh the grants.gov registration these are xr3W1mtzybQ-00529-00140117-00140363 a few uh key components again these are xr3W1mtzybQ-00530-00140364-00140573 used uh throughout the federal xr3W1mtzybQ-00531-00140574-00140933 government uh the duns number uh which xr3W1mtzybQ-00532-00140934-00141143 for many years was required is no longer xr3W1mtzybQ-00533-00141144-00141347 required it has been replaced with the xr3W1mtzybQ-00534-00141348-00141689 unique entity identifier xr3W1mtzybQ-00535-00141690-00141766 um xr3W1mtzybQ-00536-00141767-00142019 and coupled with that you'll need to xr3W1mtzybQ-00537-00142020-00142283 register your organization with Sam xr3W1mtzybQ-00538-00142284-00142547 system for award management uh we do xr3W1mtzybQ-00539-00142548-00142811 check that if you are not in Sam xr3W1mtzybQ-00540-00142812-00143069 um it's either it will cause a problem xr3W1mtzybQ-00541-00143070-00143273 down the road xr3W1mtzybQ-00542-00143274-00143489 um I think most organizations that are xr3W1mtzybQ-00543-00143490-00143669 are working with federal grants are xr3W1mtzybQ-00544-00143670-00143975 already in there but it is a um xr3W1mtzybQ-00545-00143976-00144185 it is a requirement and it's an ongoing xr3W1mtzybQ-00546-00144186-00144493 requirement you have to maintain your uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00547-00144494-00144731 uh your um xr3W1mtzybQ-00548-00144732-00145090 uh registration there on an annual basis xr3W1mtzybQ-00549-00145091-00145349 uh and then as I mentioned here you're xr3W1mtzybQ-00550-00145350-00145577 going to have to get your aor authorized xr3W1mtzybQ-00551-00145578-00145816 organizational representative xr3W1mtzybQ-00552-00145817-00146039 um linked up with your organization and xr3W1mtzybQ-00553-00146040-00146297 I think that may be part of what what xr3W1mtzybQ-00554-00146298-00146531 takes the additional time in grants.gov xr3W1mtzybQ-00555-00146532-00146837 and again here uh as as we have on the xr3W1mtzybQ-00556-00146838-00147059 slide we'll we'll be posting the slide xr3W1mtzybQ-00557-00147060-00147316 deck as well you can look at grants.gov xr3W1mtzybQ-00558-00147317-00147485 for more information I do want to xr3W1mtzybQ-00559-00147486-00147745 emphasize we do not run grants.gov xr3W1mtzybQ-00560-00147746-00147964 grants.gov is run xr3W1mtzybQ-00561-00147965-00148127 um I believe xr3W1mtzybQ-00562-00148128-00148343 either as an independent xr3W1mtzybQ-00563-00148344-00148516 um group but xr3W1mtzybQ-00564-00148517-00148751 um but it's used pretty much for the xr3W1mtzybQ-00565-00148752-00148973 Clearinghouse for most not all but many xr3W1mtzybQ-00566-00148974-00149357 many uh Federal grant programs so you xr3W1mtzybQ-00567-00149358-00149525 will need to work directly with them if xr3W1mtzybQ-00568-00149526-00149627 you're having any problems with xr3W1mtzybQ-00569-00149628-00149807 grants.gov and I've received a couple of xr3W1mtzybQ-00570-00149808-00149981 inquiries about that and I just had to xr3W1mtzybQ-00571-00149982-00150431 refer them uh back to grants.gov xr3W1mtzybQ-00572-00150432-00150814 okay I mentioned the 424 or the 424 xr3W1mtzybQ-00573-00150815-00151073 family these are standard forms that are xr3W1mtzybQ-00574-00151074-00151337 associated with about every application xr3W1mtzybQ-00575-00151338-00151654 some require a few others and more uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00576-00151655-00151890 but these are the uh the standard ones xr3W1mtzybQ-00577-00151891-00152261 uh there's an application sf424 you have xr3W1mtzybQ-00578-00152262-00152459 to provide information about your entity xr3W1mtzybQ-00579-00152460-00152740 there there's a separate budget document xr3W1mtzybQ-00580-00152741-00153149 there and uh generally it categorizes xr3W1mtzybQ-00581-00153150-00153419 the expenses down into I believe five xr3W1mtzybQ-00582-00153420-00153731 categories or six categories let's see xr3W1mtzybQ-00583-00153732-00153863 if I can remember them from the top of xr3W1mtzybQ-00584-00153864-00154121 my head it's uh salary and Fringe xr3W1mtzybQ-00585-00154122-00154409 supplies equipment uh things like that xr3W1mtzybQ-00586-00154410-00154702 that xr3W1mtzybQ-00587-00154703-00155099 budget uh portion of the 424 the 424a xr3W1mtzybQ-00588-00155100-00155297 will need to match the budget that xr3W1mtzybQ-00589-00155298-00155543 you're submitting as an attachment uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00590-00155544-00155873 what we don't want is for the 424a xr3W1mtzybQ-00591-00155874-00156101 the standard form to reflect a certain xr3W1mtzybQ-00592-00156102-00156293 budget number and then to look at your xr3W1mtzybQ-00593-00156294-00156616 application and see a separate number uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00594-00156617-00156959 there as the uh attachments so try and xr3W1mtzybQ-00595-00156960-00157313 harmonize those numbers uh between the xr3W1mtzybQ-00596-00157314-00157661 424 document and the attachment that xr3W1mtzybQ-00597-00157662-00157919 we'll talk more about in a minute uh the xr3W1mtzybQ-00598-00157920-00158159 other ones are pretty standard I don't xr3W1mtzybQ-00599-00158160-00158345 expect there to be any issues with them xr3W1mtzybQ-00600-00158346-00158711 but they have to do with lobbying and uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00601-00158712-00158843 there's one that's required if you're xr3W1mtzybQ-00602-00158844-00159059 lobbying and then xr3W1mtzybQ-00603-00159060-00159226 um if you are lobbying you have to xr3W1mtzybQ-00604-00159227-00159526 disclose it I don't anticipate the xr3W1mtzybQ-00605-00159527-00159701 disclosure will be needed but again xr3W1mtzybQ-00606-00159702-00159881 they're standard forms xr3W1mtzybQ-00607-00159882-00160145 uh then looking there at the last sub xr3W1mtzybQ-00608-00160146-00160307 bullet there are other attachments we'll xr3W1mtzybQ-00609-00160308-00160552 talk about these in a minute I managed xr3W1mtzybQ-00610-00160553-00160901 to uh shave one attachment off so there xr3W1mtzybQ-00611-00160902-00161128 are really five attachments that we'll xr3W1mtzybQ-00612-00161129-00161399 be looking at and two of those would be xr3W1mtzybQ-00613-00161400-00161585 optional xr3W1mtzybQ-00614-00161586-00161764 um they're more detailed destruct xr3W1mtzybQ-00615-00161765-00162028 instructions on this in the foa I did xr3W1mtzybQ-00616-00162029-00162239 put together the foa so I can I can xr3W1mtzybQ-00617-00162240-00162533 confirm that uh please look to the photo xr3W1mtzybQ-00618-00162534-00162869 for more information on both uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00619-00162870-00163037 primarily the attachments but there is xr3W1mtzybQ-00620-00163038-00163240 there is information there on filling xr3W1mtzybQ-00621-00163241-00163559 out the 424. xr3W1mtzybQ-00622-00163560-00163752 and as I mentioned we do not run xr3W1mtzybQ-00623-00163753-00164039 grants.gov this is some further xr3W1mtzybQ-00624-00164040-00164254 information if you're having some issues xr3W1mtzybQ-00625-00164255-00164597 uh you can reach out directly to them xr3W1mtzybQ-00626-00164598-00164890 um this is their bread and butter so I I xr3W1mtzybQ-00627-00164891-00165137 they'll get back to you I imagine pretty xr3W1mtzybQ-00628-00165138-00165281 quickly but xr3W1mtzybQ-00629-00165282-00165466 um but again we don't run grants.gov xr3W1mtzybQ-00630-00165467-00165628 you'll need to contact them directly if xr3W1mtzybQ-00631-00165629-00165785 you're having some problems registering xr3W1mtzybQ-00632-00165786-00166145 there xr3W1mtzybQ-00633-00166146-00166343 okay and as I mentioned there are other xr3W1mtzybQ-00634-00166344-00166493 attachments xr3W1mtzybQ-00635-00166494-00166654 um that would xr3W1mtzybQ-00636-00166655-00166807 um xr3W1mtzybQ-00637-00166808-00167171 uh that would form a more complete xr3W1mtzybQ-00638-00167172-00167375 application and we'll look at those in a xr3W1mtzybQ-00639-00167376-00167590 little bit of detail here they're xr3W1mtzybQ-00640-00167591-00167776 described more fully in the funding xr3W1mtzybQ-00641-00167777-00168028 opportunity announcement xr3W1mtzybQ-00642-00168029-00168190 um the real meat of it here is xr3W1mtzybQ-00643-00168191-00168347 attachment one which is your project xr3W1mtzybQ-00644-00168348-00168539 narrative xr3W1mtzybQ-00645-00168540-00168773 um there we ask you to just briefly xr3W1mtzybQ-00646-00168774-00169043 provide a table of contents depending on xr3W1mtzybQ-00647-00169044-00169385 how you know thick your application is xr3W1mtzybQ-00648-00169386-00169625 it may be more detailed or less detailed xr3W1mtzybQ-00649-00169626-00169825 but we'd like to be able to easily find xr3W1mtzybQ-00650-00169826-00170326 Those portions within your submission xr3W1mtzybQ-00651-00170327-00170537 um then there will be a short xr3W1mtzybQ-00652-00170538-00170704 introduction we like to know about your xr3W1mtzybQ-00653-00170705-00170890 community it helps us xr3W1mtzybQ-00654-00170891-00171154 um personalize that application let us xr3W1mtzybQ-00655-00171155-00171269 know xr3W1mtzybQ-00656-00171270-00171473 um about the challenges you face as a as xr3W1mtzybQ-00657-00171474-00171713 it relates to water safety I'll talk xr3W1mtzybQ-00658-00171714-00171869 more about the funding preference here xr3W1mtzybQ-00659-00171870-00172181 but in short uh we ask that you xr3W1mtzybQ-00660-00172182-00172397 substantiate xr3W1mtzybQ-00661-00172398-00172666 um uh the funding preference within the xr3W1mtzybQ-00662-00172667-00172925 introduction uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00663-00172926-00173237 generally speaking we will provide an xr3W1mtzybQ-00664-00173238-00173387 additional Five Points to your xr3W1mtzybQ-00665-00173388-00173683 application if you do the funny xr3W1mtzybQ-00666-00173684-00173897 substantiating the funding preference is xr3W1mtzybQ-00667-00173898-00174089 optional but if you do xr3W1mtzybQ-00668-00174090-00174383 um provide it and we do uh see that your xr3W1mtzybQ-00669-00174384-00174647 uh statistics are higher than the xr3W1mtzybQ-00670-00174648-00174833 national average I believe as it relates xr3W1mtzybQ-00671-00174834-00175126 to uh drowning then we would add five xr3W1mtzybQ-00672-00175127-00175331 points on to your application if you're xr3W1mtzybQ-00673-00175332-00175666 kind of in the you know 65 point range xr3W1mtzybQ-00674-00175667-00175919 that Five Points would push you over the xr3W1mtzybQ-00675-00175920-00176273 top uh it is optional it's up to you but xr3W1mtzybQ-00676-00176274-00176543 it does make it does weight the entire xr3W1mtzybQ-00677-00176544-00176843 application at 105 points rather than xr3W1mtzybQ-00678-00176844-00177028 100 points if you choose to do that xr3W1mtzybQ-00679-00177029-00177238 we'll look at that more in a minute uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00680-00177239-00177466 the work plan we didn't need to know you xr3W1mtzybQ-00681-00177467-00177616 know what you're doing and there's again xr3W1mtzybQ-00682-00177617-00177761 more information in the funding xr3W1mtzybQ-00683-00177762-00177959 opportunity announcement the project xr3W1mtzybQ-00684-00177960-00178193 evaluation plan we'd like to know that xr3W1mtzybQ-00685-00178194-00178349 you're looking at what you're doing and xr3W1mtzybQ-00686-00178350-00178543 if it's not working that you're xr3W1mtzybQ-00687-00178544-00178781 addressing that or perhaps their their xr3W1mtzybQ-00688-00178782-00178985 other avenues to xr3W1mtzybQ-00689-00178986-00179254 uh to program that money xr3W1mtzybQ-00690-00179255-00179483 um then attachment two is a budget table xr3W1mtzybQ-00691-00179484-00179638 or narrative xr3W1mtzybQ-00692-00179639-00179873 we provide a sample which I strongly xr3W1mtzybQ-00693-00179874-00180238 encourage you to uh to use because it xr3W1mtzybQ-00694-00180239-00180497 does provide uh it would provide us an xr3W1mtzybQ-00695-00180498-00180851 easy way to see this 2575 split between xr3W1mtzybQ-00696-00180852-00181109 your enforcement activities and your xr3W1mtzybQ-00697-00181110-00181361 education activities I did take a look xr3W1mtzybQ-00698-00181362-00181588 at a couple of the applications prior to xr3W1mtzybQ-00699-00181589-00181852 us providing this table and it is very xr3W1mtzybQ-00700-00181853-00182087 very difficult for the Review Committee xr3W1mtzybQ-00701-00182088-00182554 to sort out the budget if uh if there's xr3W1mtzybQ-00702-00182555-00182740 if it's not clearly identified in the xr3W1mtzybQ-00703-00182741-00182981 table schedule again this is going to xr3W1mtzybQ-00704-00182982-00183185 need to reflect a two-year performance xr3W1mtzybQ-00705-00183186-00183359 period xr3W1mtzybQ-00706-00183360-00183599 um and we'd like to see how you're going xr3W1mtzybQ-00707-00183600-00183911 to line out your activities there a xr3W1mtzybQ-00708-00183912-00184121 staffing plan we do want to know if xr3W1mtzybQ-00709-00184122-00184481 we're paying for positions and or or xr3W1mtzybQ-00710-00184482-00184745 helping in the salary infringe area xr3W1mtzybQ-00711-00184746-00185104 where those positions reside xr3W1mtzybQ-00712-00185105-00185411 and uh again here we are at attachment xr3W1mtzybQ-00713-00185412-00185633 five state law eligibility that's xr3W1mtzybQ-00714-00185634-00185771 everything we addressed here on the xr3W1mtzybQ-00715-00185772-00186178 front end we do want you to provide xr3W1mtzybQ-00716-00186179-00186521 documentation there because it is a it xr3W1mtzybQ-00717-00186522-00186785 is a hard requirement and then a couple xr3W1mtzybQ-00718-00186786-00187025 of other uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00719-00187026-00187301 as applicable attachments and an xr3W1mtzybQ-00720-00187302-00187516 indirect cost rate agreement your entity xr3W1mtzybQ-00721-00187517-00187799 may have one of those if so we would xr3W1mtzybQ-00722-00187800-00188135 want to see that so we can verify it and xr3W1mtzybQ-00723-00188136-00188590 um and and use that to um award uh award xr3W1mtzybQ-00724-00188591-00188854 the proper proper amount there it not xr3W1mtzybQ-00725-00188855-00189011 everyone has an indirect cost rate xr3W1mtzybQ-00726-00189012-00189197 agreement generally we see those at the xr3W1mtzybQ-00727-00189198-00189311 state level xr3W1mtzybQ-00728-00189312-00189521 and then any other relevant documents xr3W1mtzybQ-00729-00189522-00189707 and that's that's fairly open I will say xr3W1mtzybQ-00730-00189708-00189863 if there's xr3W1mtzybQ-00731-00189864-00190025 um we do like to see and I believe it's xr3W1mtzybQ-00732-00190026-00190343 in the foa that if there's somebody xr3W1mtzybQ-00733-00190344-00190613 um filling out the application on behalf xr3W1mtzybQ-00734-00190614-00190895 of of of of somebody that has signing xr3W1mtzybQ-00735-00190896-00191033 Authority that there's a connection xr3W1mtzybQ-00736-00191034-00191357 there a letter perhaps that indicates xr3W1mtzybQ-00737-00191358-00191513 that the person that's filling out the xr3W1mtzybQ-00738-00191514-00191795 application has the authority uh to do xr3W1mtzybQ-00739-00191796-00191873 so xr3W1mtzybQ-00740-00191874-00192125 um on behalf of the organization uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00741-00192126-00192293 that's addressed there in the foa as xr3W1mtzybQ-00742-00192294-00192478 well xr3W1mtzybQ-00743-00192479-00192725 okay uh the project narrative I xr3W1mtzybQ-00744-00192726-00192875 mentioned that that was the meet again xr3W1mtzybQ-00745-00192876-00193049 that's going to have a table of contents xr3W1mtzybQ-00746-00193050-00193295 introduction funding preference if xr3W1mtzybQ-00747-00193296-00193576 applicable work plan and the project xr3W1mtzybQ-00748-00193577-00194045 evaluation plan xr3W1mtzybQ-00749-00194046-00194423 uh here is just some standard uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00750-00194424-00194573 um xr3W1mtzybQ-00751-00194574-00194699 um xr3W1mtzybQ-00752-00194700-00194933 information on on how we'd like to see xr3W1mtzybQ-00753-00194934-00195238 it uh this is reflected in the foa as xr3W1mtzybQ-00754-00195239-00195376 well xr3W1mtzybQ-00755-00195377-00195437 um xr3W1mtzybQ-00756-00195438-00195652 please font size at 12 eight and a half xr3W1mtzybQ-00757-00195653-00196264 by eleven pretty standard stuff here xr3W1mtzybQ-00758-00196265-00196421 uh here xr3W1mtzybQ-00759-00196422-00196864 uh the budget attachment is discussed uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00760-00196865-00197290 as I mentioned uh we need the 424 set of xr3W1mtzybQ-00761-00197291-00197687 of documents and they're the the 424a is xr3W1mtzybQ-00762-00197688-00198011 a very basic budget and um it's just xr3W1mtzybQ-00763-00198012-00198233 split into a few different categories xr3W1mtzybQ-00764-00198234-00198514 and we would want again that to reflect xr3W1mtzybQ-00765-00198515-00198821 what you're attached more detailed uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00766-00198822-00199276 budget narrative or budget date uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00767-00199277-00199511 uh detailed budget would show as far as xr3W1mtzybQ-00768-00199512-00199697 the attachment xr3W1mtzybQ-00769-00199698-00199943 uh the budget should reflect 100 of xr3W1mtzybQ-00770-00199944-00200159 federal funds there is no matching or xr3W1mtzybQ-00771-00200160-00200340 cautioning required xr3W1mtzybQ-00772-00200341-00200699 some programs have that but here it's a xr3W1mtzybQ-00773-00200700-00200897 hundred percent of federal funds is is xr3W1mtzybQ-00774-00200898-00201707 is is is what's provided xr3W1mtzybQ-00775-00201708-00201971 the different budget categories in in xr3W1mtzybQ-00776-00201972-00202247 some form are should be reflected on the xr3W1mtzybQ-00777-00202248-00202481 attached budget xr3W1mtzybQ-00778-00202482-00202552 um xr3W1mtzybQ-00779-00202553-00202835 again you can look at the attachment xr3W1mtzybQ-00780-00202836-00203069 that we have there in the foa and xr3W1mtzybQ-00781-00203070-00203369 um and see that with the 424a which is xr3W1mtzybQ-00782-00203370-00203657 the Federal Form there uh again that xr3W1mtzybQ-00783-00203658-00204107 budget document is found in appendix a xr3W1mtzybQ-00784-00204108-00204293 here's more information on that funding xr3W1mtzybQ-00785-00204294-00204526 preference as I discussed uh if you xr3W1mtzybQ-00786-00204527-00204898 choose to submit this and uh your xr3W1mtzybQ-00787-00204900-00205186 application May uh will be weighted at xr3W1mtzybQ-00788-00205187-00205534 105 points versus 100 points xr3W1mtzybQ-00789-00205535-00205786 um the orc the objective Review xr3W1mtzybQ-00790-00205787-00205942 Committee that reviews these xr3W1mtzybQ-00791-00205944-00206207 applications we'll look to that again xr3W1mtzybQ-00792-00206208-00206375 please highlight that in the xr3W1mtzybQ-00793-00206376-00206614 introduction separate it out so that we xr3W1mtzybQ-00794-00206615-00206884 can clearly see that should you elect to xr3W1mtzybQ-00795-00206885-00207269 uh document that and again it's data xr3W1mtzybQ-00796-00207269-00207388 demonstrating that the number of xr3W1mtzybQ-00797-00207389-00207562 incidents involving child drownings xr3W1mtzybQ-00798-00207563-00207827 non-fatal submersions and drain xr3W1mtzybQ-00799-00207828-00208132 entrapments in the jurisdiction relative xr3W1mtzybQ-00800-00208133-00208332 to the applicable population xr3W1mtzybQ-00801-00208333-00208546 significantly exceeds comparable xr3W1mtzybQ-00802-00208548-00208738 National statistics xr3W1mtzybQ-00803-00208739-00209140 we do have a link there on uh where you xr3W1mtzybQ-00804-00209141-00209416 can find some of this information xr3W1mtzybQ-00805-00209417-00209614 um but again we look for that in the xr3W1mtzybQ-00806-00209615-00209741 introduction xr3W1mtzybQ-00807-00209742-00210058 and as as is pointed out here if you xr3W1mtzybQ-00808-00210059-00210263 receive a score of 70 or above you'll xr3W1mtzybQ-00809-00210264-00210521 receive the five-point adjustment xr3W1mtzybQ-00810-00210521-00210869 um on that score xr3W1mtzybQ-00811-00210869-00211198 here's a little bit on the process uh we xr3W1mtzybQ-00812-00211200-00211487 will initially review both an applicant xr3W1mtzybQ-00813-00211488-00211960 type are you a state federal or tribal xr3W1mtzybQ-00814-00211961-00212248 organization excuse me State local or xr3W1mtzybQ-00815-00212250-00212537 tribal organization and then separately xr3W1mtzybQ-00816-00212538-00212875 we would look to the attachments xr3W1mtzybQ-00817-00212876-00213191 involving legal eligibility are your xr3W1mtzybQ-00818-00213192-00213708 laws compliant with the vgb ACT xr3W1mtzybQ-00819-00213709-00214175 uh the the orc will then meet we will we xr3W1mtzybQ-00820-00214176-00214481 will look uh at the various applications xr3W1mtzybQ-00821-00214482-00214834 we received those that are eligible and xr3W1mtzybQ-00822-00214835-00215242 uh those will receive a score and then xr3W1mtzybQ-00823-00215244-00215729 based on that orc uh the document which xr3W1mtzybQ-00824-00215730-00215994 um xr3W1mtzybQ-00825-00215996-00216239 memorializes that you are receiving a xr3W1mtzybQ-00826-00216240-00216815 federal award is the notice of award xr3W1mtzybQ-00827-00216816-00217103 this is a little bit on the scoring I xr3W1mtzybQ-00828-00217104-00217421 did redo the weighting of the sections xr3W1mtzybQ-00829-00217421-00217721 for uh this foa in part because the work xr3W1mtzybQ-00830-00217721-00218092 plan is is such a uh project narrative xr3W1mtzybQ-00831-00218094-00218477 uh in the work plan uh are so meaty that xr3W1mtzybQ-00832-00218478-00218746 we I I did want to assess them a little xr3W1mtzybQ-00833-00218748-00218963 bit higher than they had previously so xr3W1mtzybQ-00834-00218964-00219239 the introduction 10 to 15 points that 15 xr3W1mtzybQ-00835-00219240-00219571 points being uh if if you xr3W1mtzybQ-00836-00219571-00219910 apply for the funding preference uh the xr3W1mtzybQ-00837-00219911-00220163 work plan and or the work plan there xr3W1mtzybQ-00838-00220164-00220337 being 50 points resources and xr3W1mtzybQ-00839-00220338-00220631 capabilities 25 points and then the xr3W1mtzybQ-00840-00220632-00220925 project evaluation plan at 15 points and xr3W1mtzybQ-00841-00220926-00221087 there's more information in that it's xr3W1mtzybQ-00842-00221088-00221387 discussed in in detail in the funding xr3W1mtzybQ-00843-00221388-00221692 opportunity announcement xr3W1mtzybQ-00844-00221694-00221939 okay and if successful you will receive xr3W1mtzybQ-00845-00221940-00222089 a notice of award xr3W1mtzybQ-00846-00222090-00222527 and that is the uh document indicating xr3W1mtzybQ-00847-00222528-00222779 that you've received the grant award it xr3W1mtzybQ-00848-00222780-00223042 includes a number of things uh the terms xr3W1mtzybQ-00849-00223044-00223246 of award the conditions xr3W1mtzybQ-00850-00223248-00223408 um there will be an approved budget xr3W1mtzybQ-00851-00223409-00223691 amount the amount of federal funds and a xr3W1mtzybQ-00852-00223692-00224087 description of the the the project xr3W1mtzybQ-00853-00224088-00224356 um there's no easy way to accept the xr3W1mtzybQ-00854-00224357-00224746 award so if if you are notified that xr3W1mtzybQ-00855-00224748-00224987 um uh that you'll be receiving a notice xr3W1mtzybQ-00856-00224988-00225221 of award we do need to see uh receive an xr3W1mtzybQ-00857-00225221-00225401 email back from your authorized xr3W1mtzybQ-00858-00225402-00225581 representative indicating that you're xr3W1mtzybQ-00859-00225582-00225760 accepting it we don't want this xr3W1mtzybQ-00860-00225761-00225971 linguishing out there if if the funds xr3W1mtzybQ-00861-00225971-00226156 can be put to use xr3W1mtzybQ-00862-00226157-00226475 um with another recipient uh should your xr3W1mtzybQ-00863-00226476-00226703 organization elect not to take on the xr3W1mtzybQ-00864-00226704-00226991 grant Warden xr3W1mtzybQ-00865-00226992-00227321 uh here's more again grants.gov is where xr3W1mtzybQ-00866-00227321-00227555 the uh application will need to be xr3W1mtzybQ-00867-00227556-00227837 submitted uh you can search cpsc and xr3W1mtzybQ-00868-00227838-00228089 we'll pop up I think I used the term xr3W1mtzybQ-00869-00228090-00228448 pool and uh it popped up right up right xr3W1mtzybQ-00870-00228450-00228719 at the top there the pool safely grant xr3W1mtzybQ-00871-00228719-00229019 program has its own website the xr3W1mtzybQ-00872-00229019-00229289 um the foa is posted there as long as xr3W1mtzybQ-00873-00229290-00229519 the FAQs and a number of other xr3W1mtzybQ-00874-00229519-00229942 helpful things I do encourage you to uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00875-00229944-00230182 in addition to us answering your xr3W1mtzybQ-00876-00230183-00230441 questions you can look at the FAQs and xr3W1mtzybQ-00877-00230442-00230651 they they go into a lot of detail xr3W1mtzybQ-00878-00230652-00230987 especially on this legal eligibility and xr3W1mtzybQ-00879-00230988-00231256 other items so please take a look at xr3W1mtzybQ-00880-00231257-00231605 those FAQs xr3W1mtzybQ-00881-00231606-00231779 here we have the grants.gov contact xr3W1mtzybQ-00882-00231780-00232055 center that you can contact them for xr3W1mtzybQ-00883-00232056-00232210 additional information if you're having xr3W1mtzybQ-00884-00232211-00232675 trouble my name Harvey Kincaid HKD at xr3W1mtzybQ-00885-00232676-00233075 cpsc.gov uh you may reach me by email xr3W1mtzybQ-00886-00233076-00233344 um that would be preferred and Janet xr3W1mtzybQ-00887-00233346-00233706 Davis who who I work alongside jaydavis xr3W1mtzybQ-00888-00233707-00234023 denali.gov she's our interagency partner xr3W1mtzybQ-00889-00234023-00234365 and uh is assisting with the pull safely xr3W1mtzybQ-00890-00234366-00234634 grant program uh you can contact either xr3W1mtzybQ-00891-00234635-00234887 of us and and we'll uh we'll do our best xr3W1mtzybQ-00892-00234888-00235169 to provide you an answer if you have a xr3W1mtzybQ-00893-00235169-00235271 question xr3W1mtzybQ-00894-00235271-00235865 and uh thank you for your interest xr3W1mtzybQ-00895-00235866-00236458 see that all right xr3W1mtzybQ-00896-00236459-00236705 I do know it looks like we've received a xr3W1mtzybQ-00897-00236706-00236981 few questions and we will try and leave xr3W1mtzybQ-00898-00236982-00237725 the balance here to discuss those xr3W1mtzybQ-00899-00237726-00238660 a list of them xr3W1mtzybQ-00900-00238661-00238967 doesn't want to expand for you okay oh xr3W1mtzybQ-00901-00238967-00240023 try it yeah try that guy xr3W1mtzybQ-00902-00240023-00240244 you might be able to expand it xr3W1mtzybQ-00903-00240246-00240503 okay there we go there we go xr3W1mtzybQ-00904-00240504-00240737 sorry our chat box opened up and it was xr3W1mtzybQ-00905-00240738-00240946 about one inch by two inch it was quite xr3W1mtzybQ-00906-00240948-00241415 small xr3W1mtzybQ-00907-00241416-00241744 okay sure the first question here uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00908-00241746-00242032 from Danielle staple can you clarify if xr3W1mtzybQ-00909-00242033-00242308 the budget amount listed is per year or xr3W1mtzybQ-00910-00242309-00242567 over the two-year period it's over the xr3W1mtzybQ-00911-00242567-00242746 two-year period so the four hundred xr3W1mtzybQ-00912-00242748-00242975 thousand dollars would apply as the max xr3W1mtzybQ-00913-00242976-00243232 of the fifty thousand on the low end uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00914-00243233-00243623 would apply to that two-year period xr3W1mtzybQ-00915-00243623-00243989 um so that's a total amount xr3W1mtzybQ-00916-00243990-00244115 um it looks like we got another question xr3W1mtzybQ-00917-00244116-00244408 from Danielle stable here xr3W1mtzybQ-00918-00244409-00244691 if the requirement language is in the xr3W1mtzybQ-00919-00244692-00244889 code that is enforceable but not xr3W1mtzybQ-00920-00244890-00245177 necessarily not necessarily A law is xr3W1mtzybQ-00921-00245178-00245567 that acceptable xr3W1mtzybQ-00922-00245567-00245801 uh I do think it needs to be a law in xr3W1mtzybQ-00923-00245802-00246119 order to be enforceable so we would uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00924-00246119-00246346 be asking there that you document the xr3W1mtzybQ-00925-00246348-00246556 you know the actual reference for the xr3W1mtzybQ-00926-00246557-00246887 law but it does need to be a law uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00927-00246888-00247055 otherwise it's not enforceable I'd say xr3W1mtzybQ-00928-00247056-00247469 so uh yes it does need to be a law xr3W1mtzybQ-00929-00247469-00247792 would it um Megan Morrell uh would it be xr3W1mtzybQ-00930-00247794-00247913 possible to get a copy of this xr3W1mtzybQ-00931-00247914-00248194 PowerPoint uh yes I'm going to reduce it xr3W1mtzybQ-00932-00248196-00248429 to a PDF and try and get it up on the xr3W1mtzybQ-00933-00248430-00248644 the website fairly quick I'm not sure xr3W1mtzybQ-00934-00248646-00248873 how quick uh but yes we'll we'll go xr3W1mtzybQ-00935-00248873-00249258 ahead and put it up there xr3W1mtzybQ-00936-00249259-00249658 yeah okay yes we will send the deck out xr3W1mtzybQ-00937-00249659-00249767 uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00938-00249767-00250042 let's see Danielle staple if you want to xr3W1mtzybQ-00939-00250044-00250306 put more than 25 into enforcement xr3W1mtzybQ-00940-00250307-00250571 activities is that acceptable absolutely xr3W1mtzybQ-00941-00250571-00250858 the 25 is really the minimum requirement xr3W1mtzybQ-00942-00250859-00251039 in the law xr3W1mtzybQ-00943-00251040-00251267 um so that can slide up xr3W1mtzybQ-00944-00251267-00251632 um the 75 being the education that can't xr3W1mtzybQ-00945-00251633-00251939 slide up that can only slide down xr3W1mtzybQ-00946-00251940-00252263 um so anything less than 75 75 or lower xr3W1mtzybQ-00947-00252264-00252425 would be acceptable on the education xr3W1mtzybQ-00948-00252426-00252701 side but yes you may put more than 25 xr3W1mtzybQ-00949-00252702-00253396 percent into uh enforcement activities xr3W1mtzybQ-00950-00253398-00253715 okay we have a question from I'm not xr3W1mtzybQ-00951-00253716-00253901 sure from who from you stated that the xr3W1mtzybQ-00952-00253902-00254177 grant program may not be used for pool xr3W1mtzybQ-00953-00254178-00254405 construction slash renovation can it be xr3W1mtzybQ-00954-00254406-00254608 used for design and developmental pools xr3W1mtzybQ-00955-00254609-00254981 training designers can it be used for xr3W1mtzybQ-00956-00254982-00255239 customer service organizations assisting xr3W1mtzybQ-00957-00255240-00255569 pool users uh I do not believe so that xr3W1mtzybQ-00958-00255569-00255923 does not appear to be uh allowable xr3W1mtzybQ-00959-00255923-00256115 activities under the grant program I xr3W1mtzybQ-00960-00256116-00256355 think they're too tight too closely tied xr3W1mtzybQ-00961-00256356-00256627 to construction and renovation xr3W1mtzybQ-00962-00256628-00256846 I'm not sure about the customer or xr3W1mtzybQ-00963-00256848-00257027 service organizations assisting pool xr3W1mtzybQ-00964-00257028-00257508 users but yeah I generally no xr3W1mtzybQ-00965-00257509-00257980 and it looks xr3W1mtzybQ-00966-00257981-00258244 can the grant program be used to train xr3W1mtzybQ-00967-00258246-00258563 compliance Personnel supporting uh xr3W1mtzybQ-00968-00258564-00258791 companies designing designing and xr3W1mtzybQ-00969-00258792-00259175 delivering pools I do not think so again xr3W1mtzybQ-00970-00259176-00259396 we're looking at applicants being a xr3W1mtzybQ-00971-00259398-00259894 state uh uh State local uh government or xr3W1mtzybQ-00972-00259896-00260260 a tribal or trial or an Indian tribe xr3W1mtzybQ-00973-00260261-00260489 if they're comply if they're Regulatory xr3W1mtzybQ-00974-00260490-00260632 Compliance personnel xr3W1mtzybQ-00975-00260633-00260782 can they xr3W1mtzybQ-00976-00260783-00261106 support private company their state xr3W1mtzybQ-00977-00261107-00261539 if they are a state then yes I saw the xr3W1mtzybQ-00978-00261540-00261730 private companies I was thinking private xr3W1mtzybQ-00979-00261731-00261887 employees xr3W1mtzybQ-00980-00261888-00261971 um xr3W1mtzybQ-00981-00261971-00262205 um but I think I think more generally if xr3W1mtzybQ-00982-00262206-00262541 they are our governmental Personnel that xr3W1mtzybQ-00983-00262542-00262793 are supporting private I will say we you xr3W1mtzybQ-00984-00262794-00262937 know part of the program again is xr3W1mtzybQ-00985-00262938-00263291 education we've had uh recipients xr3W1mtzybQ-00986-00263292-00263506 um you know go to private companies that xr3W1mtzybQ-00987-00263507-00263741 that work on pools that do pool related xr3W1mtzybQ-00988-00263742-00264071 stuff uh in order to educate and and xr3W1mtzybQ-00989-00264072-00264301 help push out the the xr3W1mtzybQ-00990-00264302-00264682 vgb a compliance xr3W1mtzybQ-00991-00264683-00264977 um so potentially but I'm not there's xr3W1mtzybQ-00992-00264978-00265097 not enough there for me to say xr3W1mtzybQ-00993-00265098-00265253 definitively or for us to say xr3W1mtzybQ-00994-00265254-00265541 definitively xr3W1mtzybQ-00995-00265542-00265793 the anticipated award date xr3W1mtzybQ-00996-00265794-00265847 um xr3W1mtzybQ-00997-00265848-00266039 we are hoping and I believe this is in xr3W1mtzybQ-00998-00266040-00266395 the copy of it here xr3W1mtzybQ-00999-00266396-00266693 uh the anticipated award date I think we xr3W1mtzybQ-01000-00266694-00266879 put in a put in a xr3W1mtzybQ-01001-00266880-00267119 June date yeah anticipated award June xr3W1mtzybQ-01002-00267120-00267479 15th of 2023 that's anticipated we'll xr3W1mtzybQ-01003-00267480-00267682 we'll see what happens xr3W1mtzybQ-01004-00267683-00267953 um but we we are trying to because of xr3W1mtzybQ-01005-00267954-00268103 the seasonal nature of this grant xr3W1mtzybQ-01006-00268104-00268384 program we're trying to um uh respect xr3W1mtzybQ-01007-00268385-00268589 that and and get it out in time for xr3W1mtzybQ-01008-00268590-00268799 people to hopefully program this the xr3W1mtzybQ-01009-00268800-00269315 money uh over this upcoming pool season xr3W1mtzybQ-01010-00269316-00269549 we got more get this one here oh I'm xr3W1mtzybQ-01011-00269550-00269710 sorry xr3W1mtzybQ-01012-00269711-00270047 Jonathan do the funds cover the cost of xr3W1mtzybQ-01013-00270048-00270289 full attendance activities coordinators xr3W1mtzybQ-01014-00270290-00270569 who lead or coordinate the swimming xr3W1mtzybQ-01015-00270570-00270958 lessons xr3W1mtzybQ-01016-00270959-00271110 I would xr3W1mtzybQ-01017-00271111-00271475 it could yes because uh we are talking xr3W1mtzybQ-01018-00271476-00271655 about the xr3W1mtzybQ-01019-00271656-00271853 you know having had young kids that went xr3W1mtzybQ-01020-00271854-00272021 through swimming lessons there are a xr3W1mtzybQ-01021-00272022-00272237 number of people in the pool xr3W1mtzybQ-01022-00272238-00272495 um but yes if it I I would think so if xr3W1mtzybQ-01023-00272496-00272656 it leads to xr3W1mtzybQ-01024-00272657-00272729 um xr3W1mtzybQ-01025-00272730-00272801 um xr3W1mtzybQ-01026-00272802-00272980 you know efficacy of the swimming xr3W1mtzybQ-01027-00272981-00273623 lessons themselves xr3W1mtzybQ-01028-00273624-00274451 let's see looking through here xr3W1mtzybQ-01029-00274452-00274637 do you have to use the entire two-year xr3W1mtzybQ-01030-00274638-00274841 period or can you use the funds in a xr3W1mtzybQ-01031-00274842-00275303 shorter time period with it xr3W1mtzybQ-01032-00275304-00275537 uh we would want your budget I'm sorry xr3W1mtzybQ-01033-00275538-00275699 let me read the question do you have to xr3W1mtzybQ-01034-00275700-00275908 use the entire two-year period or can xr3W1mtzybQ-01035-00275909-00276082 you use the funds in a shorter time xr3W1mtzybQ-01036-00276083-00276269 period xr3W1mtzybQ-01037-00276270-00276595 with the two-year Grant period xr3W1mtzybQ-01038-00276596-00276905 uh as the foa indicates we would expect xr3W1mtzybQ-01039-00276906-00277391 to see a budget and a uh schedule and a xr3W1mtzybQ-01040-00277392-00277558 project that reflects the two-year xr3W1mtzybQ-01041-00277559-00278099 period xr3W1mtzybQ-01042-00278100-00278291 another question about the PowerPoint xr3W1mtzybQ-01043-00278292-00278560 providing the PowerPoint xr3W1mtzybQ-01044-00278561-00278797 uh xr3W1mtzybQ-01045-00278798-00279017 for my attachments we got a question xr3W1mtzybQ-01046-00279018-00279203 here xr3W1mtzybQ-01047-00279204-00279484 uh can you provide some examples of xr3W1mtzybQ-01048-00279485-00279767 fundable projects I did uh put together xr3W1mtzybQ-01049-00279768-00279973 a couple of things xr3W1mtzybQ-01050-00279974-00280210 a couple of different things that we've xr3W1mtzybQ-01051-00280211-00280373 seen xr3W1mtzybQ-01052-00280374-00280667 um on the enforcement side uh salaries xr3W1mtzybQ-01053-00280668-00280960 and Fringe we've seen mileage because of xr3W1mtzybQ-01054-00280961-00281393 the nature of of the code enforcement xr3W1mtzybQ-01055-00281394-00281656 um certified CPO certified pool operator xr3W1mtzybQ-01056-00281657-00281879 training xr3W1mtzybQ-01057-00281880-00282113 um xr3W1mtzybQ-01058-00282114-00282449 let's see uh development of enforcement xr3W1mtzybQ-01059-00282450-00282755 e-training I know we have one recipient xr3W1mtzybQ-01060-00282756-00283006 that's doing something a little bit more xr3W1mtzybQ-01061-00283007-00283325 online as far as a training so that it xr3W1mtzybQ-01062-00283326-00283445 can be provided to a lot of different xr3W1mtzybQ-01063-00283446-00283597 people xr3W1mtzybQ-01064-00283598-00283895 law and Safety Code Enforcement trainer xr3W1mtzybQ-01065-00283896-00284129 trainings xr3W1mtzybQ-01066-00284130-00284225 um xr3W1mtzybQ-01067-00284226-00284530 uh we do have one recipient that's doing xr3W1mtzybQ-01068-00284531-00284980 um some audits of of uh permits and some xr3W1mtzybQ-01069-00284981-00285241 pool construction data to to help xr3W1mtzybQ-01070-00285242-00285491 develop a database related to xr3W1mtzybQ-01071-00285492-00285887 enforcement xr3W1mtzybQ-01072-00285888-00286193 um xr3W1mtzybQ-01073-00286194-00286505 uh technical support for ongoing xr3W1mtzybQ-01074-00286506-00286739 enforcement efforts xr3W1mtzybQ-01075-00286740-00287117 and then on the education side uh as I xr3W1mtzybQ-01076-00287118-00287519 mentioned uh educational campaigns uh xr3W1mtzybQ-01077-00287520-00287717 that's been uh pretty standard we've xr3W1mtzybQ-01078-00287718-00287980 seen that in a few different places uh xr3W1mtzybQ-01079-00287981-00288253 drowning uh prevention education events xr3W1mtzybQ-01080-00288254-00288497 lifeguard print training that I xr3W1mtzybQ-01081-00288498-00288834 mentioned uh swimming lessons xr3W1mtzybQ-01082-00288835-00289255 Community Education on pool safety xr3W1mtzybQ-01083-00289256-00289415 and xr3W1mtzybQ-01084-00289416-00289487 um xr3W1mtzybQ-01085-00289488-00289691 salary infringe there as well depending xr3W1mtzybQ-01086-00289692-00290021 on the nature of the of the Personnel xr3W1mtzybQ-01087-00290022-00290447 performing those educational duties xr3W1mtzybQ-01088-00290448-00290975 let's see where we at here we are xr3W1mtzybQ-01089-00290976-00291184 there limits to the type of some xr3W1mtzybQ-01090-00291185-00291515 contractor that can provide swim lessons xr3W1mtzybQ-01091-00291516-00291784 for instance public non-profit swimming xr3W1mtzybQ-01092-00291785-00292073 facility versus private for-profit xr3W1mtzybQ-01093-00292074-00292415 swimming facilities I.E a swim school xr3W1mtzybQ-01094-00292416-00292643 um I don't think there are the xr3W1mtzybQ-01095-00292644-00292906 subcontract is is a pretty open type of xr3W1mtzybQ-01096-00292907-00293171 instrument but I would highlight the xr3W1mtzybQ-01097-00293172-00293393 language that was included in the xr3W1mtzybQ-01098-00293394-00293597 Congressional notes that I highlighted xr3W1mtzybQ-01099-00293598-00293873 on the front end related to getting xr3W1mtzybQ-01100-00293874-00294095 involved with Civic organizations that's xr3W1mtzybQ-01101-00294096-00294365 uh kind of a little bit more of an xr3W1mtzybQ-01102-00294366-00294653 emphasis from Congress xr3W1mtzybQ-01103-00294654-00294815 oh there we are xr3W1mtzybQ-01104-00294816-00295091 uh can funds be used for building safety xr3W1mtzybQ-01105-00295092-00295769 fences for existing pools xr3W1mtzybQ-01106-00295770-00296051 I don't think so xr3W1mtzybQ-01107-00296052-00296225 um really when we're talking about xr3W1mtzybQ-01108-00296226-00296375 enforcement we're talking about xr3W1mtzybQ-01109-00296376-00296591 enforcing existing laws related to xr3W1mtzybQ-01110-00296592-00296830 safety fences xr3W1mtzybQ-01111-00296831-00297275 um or barriers related to pools xr3W1mtzybQ-01112-00297276-00297341 um xr3W1mtzybQ-01113-00297342-00297545 that just seems to be a little bit too xr3W1mtzybQ-01114-00297546-00297791 much like uh construction yeah Full xr3W1mtzybQ-01115-00297792-00298019 Construction yeah uh that's uh Barbara xr3W1mtzybQ-01116-00298020-00298234 little who's uh with our office of xr3W1mtzybQ-01117-00298235-00298415 general counsel and she and I have been xr3W1mtzybQ-01118-00298416-00298558 working together along with Jonathan xr3W1mtzybQ-01119-00298559-00298829 here uh yeah that's a little bit too xr3W1mtzybQ-01120-00298830-00299123 close to construction I believe xr3W1mtzybQ-01121-00299124-00299351 there's one from Heather can a portion xr3W1mtzybQ-01122-00299352-00299627 of the award be allocated to Drowning xr3W1mtzybQ-01123-00299628-00299879 prevention-focused non-profits for Focus xr3W1mtzybQ-01124-00299880-00300389 for eligible activities xr3W1mtzybQ-01125-00300390-00300755 uh yeah I think so uh non-profits being xr3W1mtzybQ-01126-00300756-00301030 Civic organizations uh you'll need to xr3W1mtzybQ-01127-00301031-00301295 follow some of your local laws related xr3W1mtzybQ-01128-00301296-00301469 to Contracting and how you work with xr3W1mtzybQ-01129-00301470-00301721 those folks uh but as I mentioned that's xr3W1mtzybQ-01130-00301722-00302039 clearly part of what uh the xr3W1mtzybQ-01131-00302040-00302543 Congressional intent is here xr3W1mtzybQ-01132-00302544-00303071 okay xr3W1mtzybQ-01133-00303072-00303425 that is the bottom of the uh the chat xr3W1mtzybQ-01134-00303426-00303730 window oh wait there's a new one xr3W1mtzybQ-01135-00303731-00303953 could funds be used to defray code xr3W1mtzybQ-01136-00303954-00304469 enforcement violation fees xr3W1mtzybQ-01137-00304470-00304691 so entities can put that money into xr3W1mtzybQ-01138-00304692-00304984 repairs offenses xr3W1mtzybQ-01139-00304985-00305230 I don't think so xr3W1mtzybQ-01140-00305231-00305579 um the word defray as it appears in the xr3W1mtzybQ-01141-00305580-00305830 law really relates to the administrative xr3W1mtzybQ-01142-00305831-00306232 expenses that the that the uh legal xr3W1mtzybQ-01143-00306233-00306473 entity is encountering and trying to do xr3W1mtzybQ-01144-00306474-00306641 this xr3W1mtzybQ-01145-00306642-00306832 um but I don't xr3W1mtzybQ-01146-00306833-00307091 I that does not appear to be allowable xr3W1mtzybQ-01147-00307092-00307306 and I go back to what we said previously xr3W1mtzybQ-01148-00307307-00307475 that it would be a little bit xr3W1mtzybQ-01149-00307476-00307684 um too close to construction or even xr3W1mtzybQ-01150-00307685-00307979 maintenance here as far as uh keeping xr3W1mtzybQ-01151-00307980-00308729 the barriers uh intact xr3W1mtzybQ-01152-00308730-00309026 okay saying no other xr3W1mtzybQ-01153-00309027-00309245 [Music] xr3W1mtzybQ-01154-00309246-00309491 questions nope we have eight minutes xr3W1mtzybQ-01155-00309492-00309817 left but that's always good to finish xr3W1mtzybQ-01156-00309818-00310325 any other questions xr3W1mtzybQ-01157-00310326-00310571 there's one oh there we go xr3W1mtzybQ-01158-00310572-00310847 uh the question is how about specific xr3W1mtzybQ-01159-00310848-00311147 funds designated for drowning prevention xr3W1mtzybQ-01160-00311148-00311560 signage around public bodies of water xr3W1mtzybQ-01161-00311561-00311782 I xr3W1mtzybQ-01162-00311783-00312071 think so yeah I mean I I'm looking xr3W1mtzybQ-01163-00312072-00312323 around because we have had the xr3W1mtzybQ-01164-00312324-00312556 discussion here most of the a lot of xr3W1mtzybQ-01165-00312557-00312773 this especially the enforcement has to xr3W1mtzybQ-01166-00312774-00313054 do with uh with pools and some of the xr3W1mtzybQ-01167-00313055-00313367 mechanics there but as we all know xr3W1mtzybQ-01168-00313368-00313613 um any body of water presents a presents xr3W1mtzybQ-01169-00313614-00313717 a xr3W1mtzybQ-01170-00313718-00314039 potential drowning situation so yeah I xr3W1mtzybQ-01171-00314040-00314291 think that that would be allowable that xr3W1mtzybQ-01172-00314292-00314489 would be categorized as under the xr3W1mtzybQ-01173-00314490-00314860 educational uh basket of funds yeah that xr3W1mtzybQ-01174-00314861-00315047 would be on the education side so you'd xr3W1mtzybQ-01175-00315048-00315227 begin to have to balance that out with xr3W1mtzybQ-01176-00315228-00315425 others uh other stuff on the enforcement xr3W1mtzybQ-01177-00315426-00315508 side xr3W1mtzybQ-01178-00315509-00315847 a question from Alyssa xr3W1mtzybQ-01179-00315848-00316175 so that would apply to life jacket xr3W1mtzybQ-01180-00316176-00316451 loaner situations as well plumber xr3W1mtzybQ-01181-00316452-00316925 stations owner stations xr3W1mtzybQ-01182-00316926-00317093 um I'm not sure I understand the xr3W1mtzybQ-01183-00317094-00317327 question do you loan out life jackets to xr3W1mtzybQ-01184-00317328-00317554 people at a beach say for instance xr3W1mtzybQ-01185-00317555-00317873 right but what what would the funds be xr3W1mtzybQ-01186-00317874-00318180 going to the life jackets themselves xr3W1mtzybQ-01187-00318181-00318569 yeah paying for the station xr3W1mtzybQ-01188-00318570-00318869 um Alyssa if you could uh send something xr3W1mtzybQ-01189-00318870-00319097 more detailed about what you're asking xr3W1mtzybQ-01190-00319098-00319469 about uh either to myself or to Janet uh xr3W1mtzybQ-01191-00319470-00319991 again I am h k i n c a i d h Kincaid at xr3W1mtzybQ-01192-00319992-00320375 cpsc.gov xr3W1mtzybQ-01193-00320376-00320447 um xr3W1mtzybQ-01194-00320448-00320675 that might be taking some of that a xr3W1mtzybQ-01195-00320676-00320825 little bit farther but I'm kind of xr3W1mtzybQ-01196-00320826-00321143 curious as to what you got in mind so uh xr3W1mtzybQ-01197-00321144-00321304 um so we'll uh we'll try and address xr3W1mtzybQ-01198-00321305-00321730 that one offline xr3W1mtzybQ-01199-00321731-00322019 yes yeah to Heather thank you we are xr3W1mtzybQ-01200-00322020-00322247 surrounded here in Louisiana by water xr3W1mtzybQ-01201-00322248-00322558 yes as a prior resident of Louisiana I xr3W1mtzybQ-01202-00322559-00322691 can confirm that you are light xr3W1mtzybQ-01203-00322692-00322823 especially down in Southern Louisiana xr3W1mtzybQ-01204-00322824-00323147 you are likely surrounded by water xr3W1mtzybQ-01205-00323148-00323375 um xr3W1mtzybQ-01206-00323376-00323645 okay with that I'd say that if you uh xr3W1mtzybQ-01207-00323646-00323813 continue to have a question or if xr3W1mtzybQ-01208-00323814-00324017 there's something that you wanted uh to xr3W1mtzybQ-01209-00324018-00324221 address xr3W1mtzybQ-01210-00324222-00324445 um please email myself xr3W1mtzybQ-01211-00324446-00324719 Jonathan has his uh provided his xr3W1mtzybQ-01212-00324720-00325127 information uh Janet Davis uh Jay Davis xr3W1mtzybQ-01213-00325128-00325404 at Denali xr3W1mtzybQ-01214-00325405-00325708 d-e-n-a-l-i.gov uh go ahead and send us xr3W1mtzybQ-01215-00325709-00325979 an email and we will try and get back to xr3W1mtzybQ-01216-00325980-00326267 you that way uh but otherwise thank you xr3W1mtzybQ-01217-00326268-00326465 for your interest I look forward to xr3W1mtzybQ-01218-00326466-00326741 seeing your applications and xr3W1mtzybQ-01219-00326742-00327130 um and uh thanks xr3W1mtzybQ-01220-00327131-00327329 very good xr3W1mtzybQ-01221-00327330-00327587 gonna stop our recording and thank you 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xyjM5Kwl0CQ-00007-00009095-00009551 [Applause] xyjM5Kwl0CQ-00008-00009552-00009749 Americano xyjM5Kwl0CQ-00009-00009750-00009955 why xyjM5Kwl0CQ-00010-00009956-00010673 and after that xyjM5Kwl0CQ-00011-00010674-00011705 [Applause] xyjM5Kwl0CQ-00012-00011706-00012899 is xyjM5Kwl0CQ-00013-00012900-00015556 foreign xyjM5Kwl0CQ-00014-00015557-00016883 [Applause] xyjM5Kwl0CQ-00015-00016884-00017184 foreign xyNWoRfFXTM-00000-00000048-00000350 northern Mexico Spanish El Norte de xyNWoRfFXTM-00001-00000351-00000596 medica commonly referred as El Norte is xyNWoRfFXTM-00002-00000597-00000764 an informal term for the northern xyNWoRfFXTM-00003-00000765-00001044 cultural and geographical area in Mexico xyNWoRfFXTM-00004-00001045-00001303 depending on the source it contains some xyNWoRfFXTM-00005-00001304-00001479 or all of the states of Baja California xyNWoRfFXTM-00006-00001480-00001829 Baja California Sur chaiwallah Coahuila xyNWoRfFXTM-00007-00001830-00002171 Durango Nuevo Leon Sinaloa Sonora and xyNWoRfFXTM-00008-00002172-00002443 Tim Olympus in fact there is not a xyNWoRfFXTM-00009-00002444-00002608 border that separates the northern xyNWoRfFXTM-00010-00002609-00002765 states from the southern states in xyNWoRfFXTM-00011-00002766-00003064 Mexico for some authors only states that xyNWoRfFXTM-00012-00003065-00003211 have the border with the US are xyNWoRfFXTM-00013-00003213-00003545 considered as northern Mexico ie Baja xyNWoRfFXTM-00014-00003546-00003854 California Chihuahua Coahuila Nuevo Leon xyNWoRfFXTM-00015-00003854-00004156 Sonora and Tim Olympus others also xyNWoRfFXTM-00016-00004157-00004409 include Durango Sinaloa and Baja xyNWoRfFXTM-00017-00004410-00004645 California Sur other people consider xyNWoRfFXTM-00018-00004646-00004847 that the north starts above the Tropic xyNWoRfFXTM-00019-00004848-00004909 of Cancer xyNWoRfFXTM-00020-00004910-00005090 but this description would include some xyNWoRfFXTM-00021-00005091-00005350 parts of Zacatecas and San Luis Potosi xyNWoRfFXTM-00022-00005351-00005545 that are usually not considered northern xyNWoRfFXTM-00023-00005546-00005896 states xyNWoRfFXTM-00024-00005897-00006399 topic history xyNWoRfFXTM-00025-00006400-00006948 topic before colonization xyNWoRfFXTM-00026-00006948-00007184 it is not known exactly when the first xyNWoRfFXTM-00027-00007186-00007419 settlers came to northern Mexico the bad xyNWoRfFXTM-00028-00007420-00007575 weather in the region limited the xyNWoRfFXTM-00029-00007576-00007760 practice of agriculture so ancient xyNWoRfFXTM-00030-00007761-00007983 cultures developed a nomadic lifestyle xyNWoRfFXTM-00031-00007984-00008189 dedicated to hunting and gathering one xyNWoRfFXTM-00032-00008190-00008385 of the most important native cultures at xyNWoRfFXTM-00033-00008386-00008574 northern Mexico are the tepee who aims xyNWoRfFXTM-00034-00008575-00008769 in Durango who are actually named the xyNWoRfFXTM-00035-00008770-00008960 ODE amis meaning people from the xyNWoRfFXTM-00036-00008961-00009239 mountains something similar has happened xyNWoRfFXTM-00037-00009240-00009420 with their armor as in Chihuahua roar xyNWoRfFXTM-00038-00009421-00009710 amore means people who run but they are xyNWoRfFXTM-00039-00009711-00009954 known as Tarahumara z-- other important xyNWoRfFXTM-00040-00009955-00010170 cultures are mayose and Yogi's in Sonora xyNWoRfFXTM-00041-00010171-00010479 and lagoon arrows in Coahuila in Nuevo xyNWoRfFXTM-00042-00010480-00010724 Leon many nomads were exterminated for xyNWoRfFXTM-00043-00010725-00011179 resisting the construction of Monterrey xyNWoRfFXTM-00044-00011180-00011692 topic colonial-era xyNWoRfFXTM-00045-00011693-00011956 the first city of the region was Durango xyNWoRfFXTM-00046-00011957-00012196 founded by francisco de barra a basque xyNWoRfFXTM-00047-00012197-00012529 explorer during the colonial era Durango xyNWoRfFXTM-00048-00012530-00012736 Chihuahua and some parts of Sinaloa and xyNWoRfFXTM-00049-00012737-00012963 Coahuila were a basque colony named the xyNWoRfFXTM-00050-00012964-00013231 nueva vizcaya now most during xyNWoRfFXTM-00051-00013232-00013447 Wednesday's are basque descendants other xyNWoRfFXTM-00052-00013447-00013636 important cities like Monterrey were xyNWoRfFXTM-00053-00013637-00014122 founded almost 50 years later xyNWoRfFXTM-00054-00014122-00014626 topic states xyNWoRfFXTM-00055-00014627-00015124 topic culture xyNWoRfFXTM-00056-00015125-00015340 northern Mexican culture is very xyNWoRfFXTM-00057-00015341-00015522 different from the culture in South in xyNWoRfFXTM-00058-00015524-00015838 central Mexico northern Mexican opinion xyNWoRfFXTM-00059-00015838-00016036 tends to be more conservative on average xyNWoRfFXTM-00060-00016037-00016252 on cultural topics like abortion gay xyNWoRfFXTM-00061-00016253-00016447 marriage and legalization of marijuana xyNWoRfFXTM-00062-00016448-00016672 but more liberal on topics like business xyNWoRfFXTM-00063-00016673-00016930 or technology another important xyNWoRfFXTM-00064-00016931-00017083 difference between the north and the xyNWoRfFXTM-00065-00017084-00017314 rest of Mexico is that northern Mexicans xyNWoRfFXTM-00066-00017315-00017488 tend to be more identified with their xyNWoRfFXTM-00067-00017489-00017740 Spanish heritage in early 2014 the xyNWoRfFXTM-00068-00017741-00017947 strategic communication cabinet a xyNWoRfFXTM-00069-00017948-00018175 statistical consulting services company xyNWoRfFXTM-00070-00018176-00018397 published a report called social xyNWoRfFXTM-00071-00018398-00018682 intolerance in Mexico in which polls xyNWoRfFXTM-00072-00018683-00018889 that covered several social issues were xyNWoRfFXTM-00073-00018890-00019135 conducted in the 45 largest cities and xyNWoRfFXTM-00074-00019136-00019408 municipalities of the country aside from xyNWoRfFXTM-00075-00019409-00019639 liberal Mexico City the federal capital xyNWoRfFXTM-00076-00019640-00019867 the study found the strongest support xyNWoRfFXTM-00077-00019868-00020062 for same-sex marriage in northern cities xyNWoRfFXTM-00078-00020063-00020311 such as Tijuana and La Paz whereas it xyNWoRfFXTM-00079-00020312-00020509 was the weakest in Durango Ciudad xyNWoRfFXTM-00080-00020510-00020824 Victoria Chihuahua and Monterrey as for xyNWoRfFXTM-00081-00020825-00021058 adoption by same-sex couples it was more xyNWoRfFXTM-00082-00021059-00021259 widely accepted in the border cities of xyNWoRfFXTM-00083-00021260-00021484 Tijuana and Ciudad Juarez while the xyNWoRfFXTM-00084-00021485-00021675 least support was found in Chihuahua and xyNWoRfFXTM-00085-00021676-00021952 Durango support for abortion upon xyNWoRfFXTM-00086-00021953-00022162 request cannabis legalization in xyNWoRfFXTM-00087-00022163-00022347 euthanasia was the weakest in northern xyNWoRfFXTM-00088-00022348-00022669 Mexico nonetheless Coahuila became the xyNWoRfFXTM-00089-00022670-00022822 first state to legalize same-sex xyNWoRfFXTM-00090-00022823-00023293 marriage in the country xyNWoRfFXTM-00091-00023294-00023875 topic festivities for a long time xyNWoRfFXTM-00092-00023876-00024085 November 20th the anniversary of the xyNWoRfFXTM-00093-00024086-00024286 Mexican Revolution was considered the xyNWoRfFXTM-00094-00024287-00024568 national day in northern states this has xyNWoRfFXTM-00095-00024569-00024787 been changed by some politics implanted xyNWoRfFXTM-00096-00024788-00024973 by the Sepp making obligatory the xyNWoRfFXTM-00097-00024974-00025204 celebrations of the September 16th the xyNWoRfFXTM-00098-00025205-00025417 Independence Day of Mexico and the Dia xyNWoRfFXTM-00099-00025418-00025594 de los Muertos which are days that xyNWoRfFXTM-00100-00025595-00025783 originally weren't celebrated in the xyNWoRfFXTM-00101-00025783-00026058 region other important days in the north xyNWoRfFXTM-00102-00026060-00026287 are July 8 the foundation of durango xyNWoRfFXTM-00103-00026288-00026494 city the first city founded in the north xyNWoRfFXTM-00104-00026495-00026725 and the carnival of mazatlán celebrated xyNWoRfFXTM-00105-00026726-00027033 six days before Ash Wednesday because of xyNWoRfFXTM-00106-00027035-00027189 the American influence in the region xyNWoRfFXTM-00107-00027191-00027439 Northern Mexicans also celebrate some xyNWoRfFXTM-00108-00027439-00027613 American traditions like Halloween xyNWoRfFXTM-00109-00027614-00028089 Thanksgiving and Saint Patrick's Day xyNWoRfFXTM-00110-00028089-00028587 topic gastronomy xyNWoRfFXTM-00111-00028588-00028783 as well as the Spanish and the xyNWoRfFXTM-00112-00028783-00028998 indigenous people northern Mexico has xyNWoRfFXTM-00113-00028999-00029230 received Lebanese Jewish Portuguese xyNWoRfFXTM-00114-00029231-00029445 Chinese Irish German and Italian xyNWoRfFXTM-00115-00029446-00029736 immigrants all this mixture of cultures xyNWoRfFXTM-00116-00029737-00029967 have strongly influenced the gastronomy xyNWoRfFXTM-00117-00029968-00030189 from the north northern Mexican xyNWoRfFXTM-00118-00030190-00030430 gastronomy is based in beef goat and pig xyNWoRfFXTM-00119-00030431-00030607 meat and flour tortillas which are xyNWoRfFXTM-00120-00030608-00030801 remnants of Jewish and Lebanese heritage xyNWoRfFXTM-00121-00030802-00031062 because of the German influence cheese xyNWoRfFXTM-00122-00031063-00031273 and dairy products are also important in xyNWoRfFXTM-00123-00031274-00031555 the gastronomy of the region quesadillas xyNWoRfFXTM-00124-00031556-00031755 and burritos are probably the two most xyNWoRfFXTM-00125-00031756-00032017 famous dishes from the north one of the xyNWoRfFXTM-00126-00032018-00032202 most famous customs from northern Mexico xyNWoRfFXTM-00127-00032203-00032430 is to reunite family and friends on xyNWoRfFXTM-00128-00032431-00032683 weekends to prepare barbecue named carne xyNWoRfFXTM-00129-00032683-00032980 asada by the Mexicans a variation of xyNWoRfFXTM-00130-00032981-00033189 this tradition as two prepared Escada a xyNWoRfFXTM-00131-00033190-00033364 mixture of grilled meats cooked on an xyNWoRfFXTM-00132-00033365-00033803 agricultural plowed disc harrow xyNWoRfFXTM-00133-00033804-00034321 topic sports xyNWoRfFXTM-00134-00034322-00034610 association football or soccer is one of xyNWoRfFXTM-00135-00034611-00034826 the region's most popular sports as it xyNWoRfFXTM-00136-00034827-00035021 hosts four out of the 18 teams that xyNWoRfFXTM-00137-00035022-00035210 currently play in the Liga MX the xyNWoRfFXTM-00138-00035211-00035402 country's top division of the domestic xyNWoRfFXTM-00139-00035403-00035674 football league system major cities are xyNWoRfFXTM-00140-00035675-00035864 home to these teams such as Monterey and xyNWoRfFXTM-00141-00035865-00036112 Tigres UANL both based in Monterrey xyNWoRfFXTM-00142-00036113-00036380 Santos Laguna in torreón and Tijuana in xyNWoRfFXTM-00143-00036381-00036643 the border city of the same name notably xyNWoRfFXTM-00144-00036644-00036851 northern teams have dominated the Liga xyNWoRfFXTM-00145-00036852-00037010 MX in the 2010s xyNWoRfFXTM-00146-00037011-00037202 winning a combined total of nine titles xyNWoRfFXTM-00147-00037203-00037355 and reaching more than half of the xyNWoRfFXTM-00148-00037356-00037458 decades finals xyNWoRfFXTM-00149-00037459-00037727 moreover northern teams that play in the xyNWoRfFXTM-00150-00037728-00037985 ascenso MX the second professional level xyNWoRfFXTM-00151-00037986-00038198 of the domestic football system include xyNWoRfFXTM-00152-00038199-00038411 Juarez based in the homonymous border xyNWoRfFXTM-00153-00038412-00038671 City Dorados de sinaloa from culiacán xyNWoRfFXTM-00154-00038672-00038957 Simran's de Sonora in MO Co Tampico xyNWoRfFXTM-00155-00038958-00039242 Madero and Cory Caminos UAT both based xyNWoRfFXTM-00156-00039243-00039554 in the state of Tamil AAPIs baseball is xyNWoRfFXTM-00157-00039555-00039779 another popular sport in northern Mexico xyNWoRfFXTM-00158-00039780-00040010 particularly in states such as Sinaloa xyNWoRfFXTM-00159-00040011-00040324 and Sonora seven of the 16 teams of the xyNWoRfFXTM-00160-00040325-00040520 triple-a Mexican League are based in the xyNWoRfFXTM-00161-00040521-00040802 north the independent Mexican Pacific xyNWoRfFXTM-00162-00040803-00041117 League Liga mexicana del Pacifico or LMP xyNWoRfFXTM-00163-00041118-00041314 is based in the north with most of its xyNWoRfFXTM-00164-00041315-00041483 eight teams playing in northwestern xyNWoRfFXTM-00165-00041484-00041810 Mexico the LMP as a winter league its xyNWoRfFXTM-00166-00041811-00041983 season coinciding with the Major League xyNWoRfFXTM-00167-00041984-00042335 Baseball MLB offseason MLB players can xyNWoRfFXTM-00168-00042336-00042581 therefore participate making MPL more xyNWoRfFXTM-00169-00042582-00042899 competitive since the 1970s the winner xyNWoRfFXTM-00170-00042900-00043079 of the Mexican Pacific League has xyNWoRfFXTM-00171-00043080-00043258 competed in the prestigious Caribbean xyNWoRfFXTM-00172-00043259-00043496 series won nine times by Mexican teams xyNWoRfFXTM-00173-00043497-00043757 primarily in the 21st century such as xyNWoRfFXTM-00174-00043758-00044002 Yaquis de Bregan and naranja rose to air xyNWoRfFXTM-00175-00044003-00044177 MO co based in the state of Sonora xyNWoRfFXTM-00176-00044178-00044423 benardos dimas' Atlanta and tomatillos xyNWoRfFXTM-00177-00044424-00044639 de Culiacan both based in the state of xyNWoRfFXTM-00178-00044640-00044893 Sinaloa as for the Mexican baseball xyNWoRfFXTM-00179-00044894-00045074 league the country's oldest running xyNWoRfFXTM-00180-00045075-00045262 professional league which runs in the xyNWoRfFXTM-00181-00045263-00045458 summer season several northern teams xyNWoRfFXTM-00182-00045459-00045652 participate such as Sultan YZ de xyNWoRfFXTM-00183-00045653-00045940 Monterrey sera perros de salty o Aceros xyNWoRfFXTM-00184-00045941-00046148 de Munck lova algodón arroz de unión xyNWoRfFXTM-00185-00046149-00046436 Laguna 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Basketball League founded in xyNWoRfFXTM-00200-00049396-00049635 2000 and the Pacific Coast circuit which xyNWoRfFXTM-00201-00049636-00049836 exclusively involves teams based in xyNWoRfFXTM-00202-00049837-00050099 northwestern Mexico the Liga de xyNWoRfFXTM-00203-00050100-00050307 basketball este del de chihuahua as a xyNWoRfFXTM-00204-00050308-00050526 minor league played primarily by local xyNWoRfFXTM-00205-00050527-00050740 teams in the border state of Chihuahua xyNWoRfFXTM-00206-00050741-00051054 remarkably Chihuahua born Eduardo Najera xyNWoRfFXTM-00207-00051055-00051251 became the second Mexican to play in the xyNWoRfFXTM-00208-00051252-00051470 National Basketball Association NBA xyNWoRfFXTM-00209-00051471-00051866 after Sinaloa born Horacio Lamas as for xyNWoRfFXTM-00210-00051867-00052058 American football National Football xyNWoRfFXTM-00211-00052059-00052329 League NFL following is popular in xyNWoRfFXTM-00212-00052329-00052536 several northern cities particularly 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organizations provide various x-0yroXNuyY-00030-00008624-00008803 arts education to children through x-0yroXNuyY-00031-00008804-00009097 classes and summer camps the greenhouse x-0yroXNuyY-00032-00009098-00009283 theater center is also home to the x-0yroXNuyY-00033-00009284-00009487 Institute for arts entrepreneurship and x-0yroXNuyY-00034-00009488-00009670 their partner with the Norway based on x-0yroXNuyY-00035-00009671-00009964 Samba free theater this international x-0yroXNuyY-00036-00009965-00010150 endeavor will kick off with Chicago x-0yroXNuyY-00037-00010151-00010345 playing host to the Norwegian students x-0yroXNuyY-00038-00010346-00010543 enrolled in this new program and taking x-0yroXNuyY-00039-00010544-00010753 classes in the for green house theater x-0yroXNuyY-00040-00010754-00010969 center spaces with performances at both x-0yroXNuyY-00041-00010970-00011374 greenhouse and gorilla Tango theatre xAsSK5jNJmA-00000-00000041-00000361 Sardinian nationalism or also sard ism xAsSK5jNJmA-00001-00000362-00000593 sardis new in Sardinian sardis mo in xAsSK5jNJmA-00002-00000594-00000802 italian is a social cultural and xAsSK5jNJmA-00003-00000803-00001022 political movement in Sardinia calling xAsSK5jNJmA-00004-00001023-00001249 for national devolution further autonomy xAsSK5jNJmA-00005-00001250-00001478 or even outright independence from Italy xAsSK5jNJmA-00006-00001479-00001739 it also promotes the protection of the xAsSK5jNJmA-00007-00001739-00001942 islands environment and the preservation xAsSK5jNJmA-00008-00001943-00002255 of the Sardinian cultural heritage even xAsSK5jNJmA-00009-00002256-00002425 though the island has been characterized xAsSK5jNJmA-00010-00002426-00002672 by periodical waves of ethno nationalist xAsSK5jNJmA-00011-00002673-00002860 protests against Rome the Sardinian xAsSK5jNJmA-00012-00002861-00003080 movement has its origins on the left of xAsSK5jNJmA-00013-00003081-00003260 the political spectrum attempts for xAsSK5jNJmA-00014-00003261-00003410 Sardinian self-determination xAsSK5jNJmA-00015-00003411-00003617 historically countered in fact Rome xAsSK5jNJmA-00016-00003618-00003860 centric Italian nationalism and fascism xAsSK5jNJmA-00017-00003861-00004054 which eventually managed to contain the xAsSK5jNJmA-00018-00004055-00004263 autonomist and separatist tendencies xAsSK5jNJmA-00019-00004264-00004544 over the years many Sardis parties from xAsSK5jNJmA-00020-00004545-00004754 different ideological backgrounds have xAsSK5jNJmA-00021-00004755-00004940 emerged even on the right in the center xAsSK5jNJmA-00022-00004941-00005131 all being in the minority and with some xAsSK5jNJmA-00023-00005132-00005309 of them making government coalition's of xAsSK5jNJmA-00024-00005310-00005486 variable-geometry with the statewide xAsSK5jNJmA-00025-00005487-00005797 Italian parties for instance that also xAsSK5jNJmA-00026-00005798-00006074 happened in the 2014 Sardinian regional xAsSK5jNJmA-00027-00006075-00006263 election where the combined result of xAsSK5jNJmA-00028-00006264-00006539 all the nationalist parties had been 26% xAsSK5jNJmA-00029-00006540-00007105 of the votes xAsSK5jNJmA-00030-00007106-00007620 topic overview xAsSK5jNJmA-00031-00007622-00007936 in 1720 the kingdom of Sardinia was xAsSK5jNJmA-00032-00007937-00008137 definitely ceded by Spain to the House xAsSK5jNJmA-00033-00008138-00008389 of Savoy after a plura secular period of xAsSK5jNJmA-00034-00008390-00008527 Spanish rule and a short-lived xAsSK5jNJmA-00035-00008528-00008752 reconquest abiding by the Treaty of xAsSK5jNJmA-00036-00008753-00008914 London that followed the war of Spanish xAsSK5jNJmA-00037-00008915-00009211 Succession the sava yard Kings who were xAsSK5jNJmA-00038-00009212-00009430 forced to accept this island in place of xAsSK5jNJmA-00039-00009431-00009631 the much more populated and profitable xAsSK5jNJmA-00040-00009632-00009790 Sicily were not pleased with the xAsSK5jNJmA-00041-00009791-00009970 exchange to the point of making them one xAsSK5jNJmA-00042-00009971-00010183 to dispose of what cavour called the xAsSK5jNJmA-00043-00010184-00010468 third Ireland later according to Mazzini xAsSK5jNJmA-00044-00010469-00010639 who denounced part of the plot by xAsSK5jNJmA-00045-00010640-00010804 repeatedly trying to sell it to either xAsSK5jNJmA-00046-00010805-00011107 Austria or France for a long time xAsSK5jNJmA-00047-00011108-00011299 Sardinia would be ruled in the same way xAsSK5jNJmA-00048-00011300-00011497 as it was during the Spanish period with xAsSK5jNJmA-00049-00011498-00011662 its own Parliament and government being xAsSK5jNJmA-00050-00011663-00011854 composed exclusively of men from the xAsSK5jNJmA-00051-00011855-00012133 mainland the only exception to this has xAsSK5jNJmA-00052-00012134-00012340 been a series of revolutionary outburst xAsSK5jNJmA-00053-00012341-00012642 known collectively as Sardinian Vespers xAsSK5jNJmA-00054-00012643-00012907 against the local piedmontese notables xAsSK5jNJmA-00055-00012908-00013246 in 1794 later led by giovanni maria and xAsSK5jNJmA-00056-00013247-00013465 goe that ended only in the first years xAsSK5jNJmA-00057-00013466-00013669 of the 19th century but did not succeed xAsSK5jNJmA-00058-00013669-00013993 and were ultimately suppressed in 1847 a xAsSK5jNJmA-00059-00013994-00014172 segment of the Sardinian elites from xAsSK5jNJmA-00060-00014173-00014365 collier ii and sassari guided by the xAsSK5jNJmA-00061-00014366-00014587 unionist giovanni see otto pintor xAsSK5jNJmA-00062-00014588-00014782 demanded the so-called perfect fusion xAsSK5jNJmA-00063-00014783-00014968 aimed at getting the liberal reforms xAsSK5jNJmA-00064-00014969-00015157 sardinia could not have because of its xAsSK5jNJmA-00065-00015158-00015412 separate legal system a minority of xAsSK5jNJmA-00066-00015413-00015649 Sardinian deputies like Federico Fenn xAsSK5jNJmA-00067-00015650-00015822 you and the Federalist Giovanni Battista xAsSK5jNJmA-00068-00015823-00016081 too very strongly protested against the xAsSK5jNJmA-00069-00016082-00016279 merging and warned against the situation xAsSK5jNJmA-00070-00016280-00016483 sardinia could potentially find itself xAsSK5jNJmA-00071-00016484-00016747 in in the end the King Charles Albert xAsSK5jNJmA-00072-00016748-00016978 agreed to the request however he also xAsSK5jNJmA-00073-00016979-00017194 dissolved what political bodies remained xAsSK5jNJmA-00074-00017195-00017400 that could exert a modicum of control on xAsSK5jNJmA-00075-00017401-00017586 the Kings decisions over the island xAsSK5jNJmA-00076-00017587-00017863 moreover the later enlargement moves in xAsSK5jNJmA-00077-00017864-00018043 the mainland on the Sava yds part xAsSK5jNJmA-00078-00018044-00018202 further aggravated the islands xAsSK5jNJmA-00079-00018203-00018409 peripheral condition Sardinia would end xAsSK5jNJmA-00080-00018410-00018583 up being an even less significant xAsSK5jNJmA-00081-00018584-00018769 overseas depart amount of the savaard xAsSK5jNJmA-00082-00018770-00018982 domains whose center of political power xAsSK5jNJmA-00083-00018983-00019188 had always been in the Italian peninsula xAsSK5jNJmA-00084-00019189-00019492 the episode would lead pintor himself to xAsSK5jNJmA-00085-00019493-00019660 regret having made that proposal a xAsSK5jNJmA-00086-00019661-00019927 remote oudy we all made a mistake and xAsSK5jNJmA-00087-00019928-00020232 would raise the Sardinian question xAsSK5jNJmA-00088-00020233-00020515 question Sarda from then on a broad term xAsSK5jNJmA-00089-00020516-00020710 used to cover a wide variety of issues xAsSK5jNJmA-00090-00020711-00020905 regarding the difficult relationship xAsSK5jNJmA-00091-00020906-00021001 between Sardinia xAsSK5jNJmA-00092-00021002-00021283 in the mainland the sava yard Kings then xAsSK5jNJmA-00093-00021284-00021448 proceeded to expand their domains xAsSK5jNJmA-00094-00021449-00021592 through the unification of Italy xAsSK5jNJmA-00095-00021593-00021826 Sardinia being already part of the xAsSK5jNJmA-00096-00021827-00021979 Piedmontese kingdom from the very xAsSK5jNJmA-00097-00021980-00022177 beginning automatically joined the new xAsSK5jNJmA-00098-00022178-00022375 polity that changed its name to become xAsSK5jNJmA-00099-00022376-00022768 the kingdom of Italy in 1861 Sartre ISM xAsSK5jNJmA-00100-00022769-00022927 which had long been confined to the xAsSK5jNJmA-00101-00022928-00023119 islands intellectuals made its political xAsSK5jNJmA-00102-00023120-00023350 debut for the first time in the occasion xAsSK5jNJmA-00103-00023351-00023617 of Ireland's independence 1921 with the xAsSK5jNJmA-00104-00023618-00023887 Sardinian Action Party or PS Diaz one of xAsSK5jNJmA-00105-00023888-00024091 the oldest parties in Europe advocating xAsSK5jNJmA-00106-00024092-00024280 for regional self-determination which xAsSK5jNJmA-00107-00024281-00024513 got 36 percent of the popular vote in xAsSK5jNJmA-00108-00024514-00024828 1921 regional election Sardinian xAsSK5jNJmA-00109-00024829-00025069 nationalism thus established itself as xAsSK5jNJmA-00110-00025070-00025252 the most important mass movement in xAsSK5jNJmA-00111-00025253-00025489 sardinia and the PSD as a political xAsSK5jNJmA-00112-00025490-00025695 force that Mussolini had to reckon with xAsSK5jNJmA-00113-00025697-00026008 and eventually ban in 1926 some Sardis xAsSK5jNJmA-00114-00026008-00026206 --tz-- like Emilio Lou sue were forced xAsSK5jNJmA-00115-00026207-00026419 into hiding and participated in the main xAsSK5jNJmA-00116-00026420-00026629 European fronts of anti-fascism like xAsSK5jNJmA-00117-00026630-00026860 Dino Jacobi and Giuseppe Guidice in the xAsSK5jNJmA-00118-00026861-00027076 Spanish Civil War while others decided xAsSK5jNJmA-00119-00027077-00027277 to join the fascist party hoping that by xAsSK5jNJmA-00120-00027277-00027475 adhering to the regime Sardinia would xAsSK5jNJmA-00121-00027476-00027727 get autonomy in exchange a demand facing xAsSK5jNJmA-00122-00027727-00027916 an immediate rejection or at least some xAsSK5jNJmA-00123-00027917-00028087 attention from the mainland which they xAsSK5jNJmA-00124-00028088-00028243 eventually got through some moderate xAsSK5jNJmA-00125-00028244-00028438 funding concentrated in Collier II for xAsSK5jNJmA-00126-00028439-00028735 the local infrastructures overall rural xAsSK5jNJmA-00127-00028736-00028927 Sardinia showed little interest in the xAsSK5jNJmA-00128-00028927-00029137 fascist state let alone consent while xAsSK5jNJmA-00129-00029138-00029311 the bourgeois segments from the urban xAsSK5jNJmA-00130-00029312-00029461 settlements were among the staunchest xAsSK5jNJmA-00131-00029462-00029655 supporters of the regime on the island xAsSK5jNJmA-00132-00029656-00029863 following the Second World War xAsSK5jNJmA-00133-00029864-00030102 the PS Diaz already weakened by the loss xAsSK5jNJmA-00134-00030104-00030286 of many of its key members during the xAsSK5jNJmA-00135-00030287-00030493 conflict suffered a first split between xAsSK5jNJmA-00136-00030494-00030661 the moderate wing and a much more xAsSK5jNJmA-00137-00030662-00030916 radical one led by Sebastiano Parisi xAsSK5jNJmA-00138-00030917-00031135 which developed into another party legis xAsSK5jNJmA-00139-00031136-00031372 Arda Sardinian League but ultimately got xAsSK5jNJmA-00140-00031373-00031677 poor results in the 1946 Italian general xAsSK5jNJmA-00141-00031679-00031827 election the return of democracy xAsSK5jNJmA-00142-00031827-00032023 coincided with the comeback of the xAsSK5jNJmA-00143-00032024-00032242 previously cracked down autonomist and xAsSK5jNJmA-00144-00032243-00032530 separatist claims a regional chamber to xAsSK5jNJmA-00145-00032531-00032778 draft the statute was created on April 9 xAsSK5jNJmA-00146-00032779-00033058 1945 but did not operate until as late xAsSK5jNJmA-00147-00033059-00033400 as April 26 1946 because of the slow xAsSK5jNJmA-00148-00033401-00033604 pace of negotiations at each round of xAsSK5jNJmA-00149-00033605-00033907 the talks the Sardinian Action Party was xAsSK5jNJmA-00150-00033908-00034108 in fact in favor of the island being a xAsSK5jNJmA-00151-00034109-00034290 federal state in the country rather than xAsSK5jNJmA-00152-00034291-00034380 being assimilate xAsSK5jNJmA-00153-00034381-00034581 into a region like in the mainland but xAsSK5jNJmA-00154-00034582-00034728 such demands were met with strong xAsSK5jNJmA-00155-00034729-00034929 opposition from the Italian statewide xAsSK5jNJmA-00156-00034930-00035145 parties the Christian democracy xAsSK5jNJmA-00157-00035146-00035361 DC around which the majority of the xAsSK5jNJmA-00158-00035362-00035532 islands notables were then gathered xAsSK5jNJmA-00159-00035533-00035724 supported a generic regional framework xAsSK5jNJmA-00160-00035725-00035919 with some devolution geared towards xAsSK5jNJmA-00161-00035920-00036114 accommodation for the central government xAsSK5jNJmA-00162-00036115-00036402 in Rome the Liberal Party PLI advocated xAsSK5jNJmA-00163-00036403-00036590 for what little autonomy was needed to xAsSK5jNJmA-00164-00036591-00036765 carry out the administrative functions xAsSK5jNJmA-00165-00036766-00036942 without the capacity to create any xAsSK5jNJmA-00166-00036943-00037197 regional laws the Communist Party PCI xAsSK5jNJmA-00167-00037198-00037398 which shut down the Communist Party of xAsSK5jNJmA-00168-00037399-00037626 Sardinia two years earlier was hostile xAsSK5jNJmA-00169-00037627-00037812 to the idea of giving sardinia any xAsSK5jNJmA-00170-00037813-00038004 autonomy at all considered to be a xAsSK5jNJmA-00171-00038005-00038214 reactionary tool that was in the way of xAsSK5jNJmA-00172-00038215-00038373 a transformation towards the ultimate xAsSK5jNJmA-00173-00038374-00038640 communist society the right-wing parties xAsSK5jNJmA-00174-00038641-00038829 and the common man's front were against xAsSK5jNJmA-00175-00038830-00039084 Sardinian autonomy - albeit for reasons xAsSK5jNJmA-00176-00039085-00039381 motivated by Italian nationalism in the xAsSK5jNJmA-00177-00039382-00039558 end the line prevailing was the one xAsSK5jNJmA-00178-00039559-00039780 supported by the DC that claiming to be xAsSK5jNJmA-00179-00039781-00039993 willing to avoid serious institutional xAsSK5jNJmA-00180-00039994-00040218 conflicts ditched the federal hypothesis xAsSK5jNJmA-00181-00040219-00040395 in favor of a binary system of xAsSK5jNJmA-00182-00040396-00040569 governance agreed upon the region and xAsSK5jNJmA-00183-00040570-00040800 the central state as much as some xAsSK5jNJmA-00184-00040801-00040968 important authors in the field of xAsSK5jNJmA-00185-00040969-00041165 Sardinian studies regard the granted xAsSK5jNJmA-00186-00041166-00041334 status as the acknowledgement of a xAsSK5jNJmA-00187-00041335-00041586 distinct historical Geographic social xAsSK5jNJmA-00188-00041587-00041802 ethnic and linguistic situation the xAsSK5jNJmA-00189-00041803-00042027 Sardinian specialty as a criterion for xAsSK5jNJmA-00190-00042028-00042227 political autonomy ended up being xAsSK5jNJmA-00191-00042228-00042411 specified just on the grounds of a xAsSK5jNJmA-00192-00042412-00042633 couple of socio-economic issues devoid xAsSK5jNJmA-00193-00042634-00042737 of any of the aforementioned xAsSK5jNJmA-00194-00042738-00043056 considerations as time was pressing the xAsSK5jNJmA-00195-00043057-00043233 Sardinian regional statute was xAsSK5jNJmA-00196-00043234-00043415 eventually written by the Constituent xAsSK5jNJmA-00197-00043416-00043614 Assembly in Rome followed by a rapid xAsSK5jNJmA-00198-00043615-00043767 review of each section and without xAsSK5jNJmA-00199-00043768-00044037 further debate some unique articles xAsSK5jNJmA-00200-00044038-00044165 showed up in the final version xAsSK5jNJmA-00201-00044166-00044396 mentioning state funded plans called xAsSK5jNJmA-00202-00044397-00044655 piane dieren Ashida rebirth plans for xAsSK5jNJmA-00203-00044656-00044835 the heavy industrial development of the xAsSK5jNJmA-00204-00044836-00045132 island 100 years had passed since the xAsSK5jNJmA-00205-00045133-00045357 perfect fusion when sardinia became an xAsSK5jNJmA-00206-00045358-00045654 autonomous region of italy however the xAsSK5jNJmA-00207-00045655-00045894 statutes content upon which the autonomy xAsSK5jNJmA-00208-00045895-00046098 was effectively based fell short of many xAsSK5jNJmA-00209-00046099-00046404 Sardis expectations at the draft of the xAsSK5jNJmA-00210-00046405-00046626 statute Lucis laconic comment was xAsSK5jNJmA-00211-00046627-00046818 greater than the lawyer ganar EO Pina xAsSK5jNJmA-00212-00046819-00047094 went as far as stating greater than the xAsSK5jNJmA-00213-00047095-00047327 PSD oz suffered another split in July xAsSK5jNJmA-00214-00047328-00047511 with Lucy leaving and founding the xAsSK5jNJmA-00215-00047512-00047727 short-lived Sardinian socialist action xAsSK5jNJmA-00216-00047728-00047854 part xAsSK5jNJmA-00217-00047855-00048137 thus artists movement experienced a new xAsSK5jNJmA-00218-00048138-00048342 wave of support at the end of the 60s xAsSK5jNJmA-00219-00048343-00048545 when the Sardinian society started xAsSK5jNJmA-00220-00048546-00048698 becoming aware that its cultural xAsSK5jNJmA-00221-00048699-00048896 heritage had been gradually vanishing xAsSK5jNJmA-00222-00048897-00049082 growing inequality was also being xAsSK5jNJmA-00223-00049083-00049289 produced by a dual economic structure xAsSK5jNJmA-00224-00049290-00049490 with the labor and resources being moved xAsSK5jNJmA-00225-00049491-00049632 to the sector focused on the xAsSK5jNJmA-00226-00049633-00049814 petrochemical industry particularly xAsSK5jNJmA-00227-00049815-00050099 fostered by the PCI and the Italian NATO xAsSK5jNJmA-00228-00050100-00050442 and US military installations by the 70s xAsSK5jNJmA-00229-00050443-00050648 Sardis claims were widespread with the xAsSK5jNJmA-00230-00050649-00050826 support of many springing grassroots xAsSK5jNJmA-00231-00050827-00050985 organizations they ranged from xAsSK5jNJmA-00232-00050986-00051212 supporting of the Sardinian Action Party xAsSK5jNJmA-00233-00051213-00051419 to having harshly critical views towards xAsSK5jNJmA-00234-00051420-00051636 it and were also ideologically diverse xAsSK5jNJmA-00235-00051637-00051827 for example the Catholic Union xAsSK5jNJmA-00236-00051828-00052031 Democratic approach independencia de xAsSK5jNJmA-00237-00052032-00052289 saucé Sardinia Democratic Union for xAsSK5jNJmA-00238-00052290-00052536 Sardinian independence and the xAsSK5jNJmA-00239-00052537-00052779 Socialists Liga de unidade Nazia nolle xAsSK5jNJmA-00240-00052779-00053006 pros independencia de saucé sardinia e xAsSK5jNJmA-00241-00053007-00053300 su socialism a league of national Union xAsSK5jNJmA-00242-00053301-00053585 for Sardinian independence and socialism xAsSK5jNJmA-00243-00053586-00053804 competing with each other based on their xAsSK5jNJmA-00244-00053805-00054171 beliefs were both founded in 1967 some xAsSK5jNJmA-00245-00054172-00054411 cultural circles like citta campaña and xAsSK5jNJmA-00246-00054412-00054662 supa Pooler Sardu also drew militants xAsSK5jNJmA-00247-00054663-00054825 from the extra-parliamentary groups xAsSK5jNJmA-00248-00054826-00054987 based on the island and saw many xAsSK5jNJmA-00249-00054988-00055221 Sardinian university students joining in xAsSK5jNJmA-00250-00055222-00055469 the youth wings in the town of or go xAsSK5jNJmA-00251-00055470-00055679 solo were particularly active against xAsSK5jNJmA-00252-00055680-00055805 land dispossession and the xAsSK5jNJmA-00253-00055806-00056096 militarization of the grazing lands in xAsSK5jNJmA-00254-00056097-00056399 1978 the movements are Daniel y liberty' xAsSK5jNJmA-00255-00056400-00056697 Sardinia and freedom was founded by xAsSK5jNJmA-00256-00056698-00056937 Carlos ecchi and Rafael Correa in the xAsSK5jNJmA-00257-00056938-00057204 city of alghero the PSD has experienced xAsSK5jNJmA-00258-00057204-00057486 another comeback in the 1980s in the xAsSK5jNJmA-00259-00057487-00057767 1984 regional election the party peaked xAsSK5jNJmA-00260-00057769-00058062 at 30% in Collier II and over 20% in xAsSK5jNJmA-00261-00058063-00058205 sassari interest on o xAsSK5jNJmA-00262-00058206-00058481 gaining overall 13.8% of the vote xAsSK5jNJmA-00263-00058482-00058700 therefore due to its pivotal role in the xAsSK5jNJmA-00264-00058701-00058925 newly elected Regional Council Sardis xAsSK5jNJmA-00265-00058926-00059148 Mario melis was president of Sardinia xAsSK5jNJmA-00266-00059149-00059492 from 1984 to 1989 when it managed to get xAsSK5jNJmA-00267-00059494-00059859 12 5% of the vote ever since that result xAsSK5jNJmA-00268-00059860-00060009 has not been repeated yet by the xAsSK5jNJmA-00269-00060010-00060234 Sardinian Action Party let alone any of xAsSK5jNJmA-00270-00060235-00060525 the splinter groups emerging from it the xAsSK5jNJmA-00271-00060526-00060725 Sardinian nationalist movement is in xAsSK5jNJmA-00272-00060726-00060924 fact rather disjointed and lacking in xAsSK5jNJmA-00273-00060925-00061169 unity nowadays it is composed mostly of xAsSK5jNJmA-00274-00061170-00061248 several xAsSK5jNJmA-00275-00061249-00061461 and scattered grassroots organizations xAsSK5jNJmA-00276-00061462-00061632 across the island that do not have the xAsSK5jNJmA-00277-00061633-00061866 clear central policymaking Authority and xAsSK5jNJmA-00278-00061866-00062040 besides the different nationalist xAsSK5jNJmA-00279-00062041-00062229 subgroups often disagree with each other xAsSK5jNJmA-00280-00062229-00062465 on many key issues Sardinian xAsSK5jNJmA-00281-00062466-00062673 nationalists address a number of issues xAsSK5jNJmA-00282-00062674-00062922 such as the environmental damage caused xAsSK5jNJmA-00283-00062923-00063230 by the military forces in fact 60% of xAsSK5jNJmA-00284-00063232-00063450 such bases in Italy are located on the xAsSK5jNJmA-00285-00063451-00063597 island the financial and economic xAsSK5jNJmA-00286-00063598-00063885 exploitation of the islands resources by xAsSK5jNJmA-00287-00063886-00064049 the Italian state and mainland xAsSK5jNJmA-00288-00064050-00064271 industrialists the lack of any political xAsSK5jNJmA-00289-00064272-00064494 representation both in Italy and in the xAsSK5jNJmA-00290-00064495-00064713 European Parliament due to an unbalanced xAsSK5jNJmA-00291-00064714-00064911 electoral constituency that still xAsSK5jNJmA-00292-00064912-00065010 remains to this day xAsSK5jNJmA-00293-00065011-00065242 Sardinia has not had its own map since xAsSK5jNJmA-00294-00065244-00065523 1994 the nuclear power and waste on xAsSK5jNJmA-00295-00065524-00065718 which a referendum was proposed by ass xAsSK5jNJmA-00296-00065719-00065976 artist party being held in 2011 and the xAsSK5jNJmA-00297-00065977-00066192 ongoing process of depopulation and xAsSK5jNJmA-00298-00066193-00066393 Italian ization that would destroy the xAsSK5jNJmA-00299-00066394-00066624 Sardinian indigenous culture Sardinian xAsSK5jNJmA-00300-00066625-00066831 nationalism as a Pacific movement that xAsSK5jNJmA-00301-00066832-00067026 does not advocate violent revolution xAsSK5jNJmA-00302-00067027-00067230 proposing instead to achieve its goals xAsSK5jNJmA-00303-00067231-00067445 within a liberal democratic framework xAsSK5jNJmA-00304-00067446-00067695 however as an exception to the rule xAsSK5jNJmA-00305-00067696-00067872 there had been some issues in the past xAsSK5jNJmA-00306-00067873-00068049 strictly related to separatist xAsSK5jNJmA-00307-00068050-00068229 tendencies the most worth mentioning xAsSK5jNJmA-00308-00068230-00068496 being essentially three first the xAsSK5jNJmA-00309-00068497-00068784 actions planned in 1968 by gin Giacomo xAsSK5jNJmA-00310-00068785-00068973 feltrinelli to turn the island into the xAsSK5jNJmA-00311-00068974-00069234 Cuba of the Mediterranean liberated from xAsSK5jNJmA-00312-00069235-00069486 colonialism by making contact with xAsSK5jNJmA-00313-00069487-00069717 several local nationalist groups in the xAsSK5jNJmA-00314-00069718-00069924 end the attempt of the famous communist xAsSK5jNJmA-00315-00069925-00070032 thinker to strengthen the xAsSK5jNJmA-00316-00070033-00070260 pro-independence militant lines divided xAsSK5jNJmA-00317-00070261-00070464 into the socialist front nazia nollie xAsSK5jNJmA-00318-00070465-00070779 deliberation EDA saw Sardinia FN LS and xAsSK5jNJmA-00319-00070780-00070968 the rightest movimento Nacionalista xAsSK5jNJmA-00320-00070969-00071262 Sardu MNS was nullified by the Italian xAsSK5jNJmA-00321-00071263-00071562 secret military intelligence secondly xAsSK5jNJmA-00322-00071563-00071790 there had been in the 1980s the question xAsSK5jNJmA-00323-00071791-00072066 of the so-called separatist conspiracy a xAsSK5jNJmA-00324-00072067-00072339 secret plan apparently set up by some xAsSK5jNJmA-00325-00072340-00072534 local activists to reach the islands xAsSK5jNJmA-00326-00072535-00072696 independence in collaboration with xAsSK5jNJmA-00327-00072697-00072897 Gaddafi's Libya according to some xAsSK5jNJmA-00328-00072898-00073068 reconstructions of the facts the xAsSK5jNJmA-00329-00073069-00073260 supposed Sardinian separatist conspiracy xAsSK5jNJmA-00330-00073261-00073449 might have been a machination of the xAsSK5jNJmA-00331-00073450-00073647 Italian secret services seeking to xAsSK5jNJmA-00332-00073648-00073851 discredit the rising nationalist wave in xAsSK5jNJmA-00333-00073852-00074097 the island there were also separatist xAsSK5jNJmA-00334-00074098-00074259 militant groups like the movimento xAsSK5jNJmA-00335-00074260-00074526 armado Sardo Sardinian armed movement xAsSK5jNJmA-00336-00074527-00074637 claiming assassin xAsSK5jNJmA-00337-00074638-00074934 and several kidnappings finally it xAsSK5jNJmA-00338-00074935-00075090 should be mentioned the case of a number xAsSK5jNJmA-00339-00075091-00075279 of bombings the most notable of which xAsSK5jNJmA-00340-00075280-00075540 being that in 2004 against Silvio xAsSK5jNJmA-00341-00075541-00075792 Berlusconi in his visit to Porto rotondo xAsSK5jNJmA-00342-00075793-00076068 Albia with Tony Blair the responsibility xAsSK5jNJmA-00343-00076069-00076242 has been apparently claimed by some xAsSK5jNJmA-00344-00076243-00076437 unknown and narco separatist militant xAsSK5jNJmA-00345-00076438-00076641 groups the presence of which never to be xAsSK5jNJmA-00346-00076642-00076875 seen again in 2012 a vote in the xAsSK5jNJmA-00347-00076876-00077043 Sardinian Assembly to pass an xAsSK5jNJmA-00348-00077044-00077244 independence referendum bill failed by xAsSK5jNJmA-00349-00077245-00077487 one vote in 2017 a Sardinian xAsSK5jNJmA-00350-00077488-00077688 independence campaigner going by the xAsSK5jNJmA-00351-00077689-00077919 name of Salvatore Doran Sardinian xAsSK5jNJmA-00352-00077920-00078135 Maloney died after a two-month hunger xAsSK5jNJmA-00353-00078136-00078297 and thirst strike while imprisoned at xAsSK5jNJmA-00354-00078298-00078858 UTA xAsSK5jNJmA-00355-00078859-00079417 topic political support xAsSK5jNJmA-00356-00079418-00079741 in the 70s around 38% of the Sardinian xAsSK5jNJmA-00357-00079742-00079990 population expressed a favorable view on xAsSK5jNJmA-00358-00079991-00080356 independence in 1984 another poll made xAsSK5jNJmA-00359-00080357-00080575 by the second most widespread Sardinian xAsSK5jNJmA-00360-00080576-00080806 newspaper la nuova sardegna also xAsSK5jNJmA-00361-00080807-00081010 reported frustrations with the italian xAsSK5jNJmA-00362-00081011-00081205 central government in sardinia with the xAsSK5jNJmA-00363-00081206-00081400 regionalist opinion being split across a xAsSK5jNJmA-00364-00081401-00081592 spectrum ranging from calls for more xAsSK5jNJmA-00365-00081593-00081823 autonomy in Italy to total independence xAsSK5jNJmA-00366-00081824-00082123 from Italy according to a 2012 survey xAsSK5jNJmA-00367-00082124-00082336 conducted in a joint effort between the xAsSK5jNJmA-00368-00082337-00082513 University of Colliers and that of xAsSK5jNJmA-00369-00082514-00082795 Edinburgh 41% of Sardinians would be in xAsSK5jNJmA-00370-00082796-00083044 favor of independence with 10% choosing xAsSK5jNJmA-00371-00083045-00083218 it from both Italy and the European xAsSK5jNJmA-00372-00083219-00083479 Union and 31% only from Italy with xAsSK5jNJmA-00373-00083480-00083674 Sardinia remaining in the EU whilst xAsSK5jNJmA-00374-00083675-00083941 another 46% would rather have a larger xAsSK5jNJmA-00375-00083942-00084112 autonomy within Italy and the EU xAsSK5jNJmA-00376-00084113-00084373 including fiscal power 12% of people xAsSK5jNJmA-00377-00084374-00084607 would be content to remain part of Italy xAsSK5jNJmA-00378-00084608-00084793 and the EU with a Regional Council xAsSK5jNJmA-00379-00084794-00085027 without any fiscal powers and 1% in xAsSK5jNJmA-00380-00085028-00085210 Italy and the EU without a Regional xAsSK5jNJmA-00381-00085211-00085450 Council and fiscal powers besides the xAsSK5jNJmA-00382-00085451-00085681 same survey reported Amory no question xAsSK5jNJmA-00383-00085682-00085846 giving the following results one xAsSK5jNJmA-00384-00085847-00086185 Sardinian not Italian 26 percent to more xAsSK5jNJmA-00385-00086186-00086467 Sardinian than Italian 37 percent three xAsSK5jNJmA-00386-00086468-00086764 equally Sardinian and Italian 31 percent xAsSK5jNJmA-00387-00086765-00086980 four more Italian than Sardinian five xAsSK5jNJmA-00388-00086981-00087253 percent five Italian not Sardinian one xAsSK5jNJmA-00389-00087254-00087568 percent a 2017 poll by the icks xAsSK5jNJmA-00390-00087569-00087814 Institute found that 51 percent of those xAsSK5jNJmA-00391-00087815-00088030 questioned identified as Sardinian as xAsSK5jNJmA-00392-00088031-00088267 opposed to an Italian average of 15 xAsSK5jNJmA-00393-00088268-00088471 percent identifying by their region of xAsSK5jNJmA-00394-00088472-00088714 origin rather than Italian 19 percent xAsSK5jNJmA-00395-00088715-00088987 European 11 percent and/or citizen of xAsSK5jNJmA-00396-00088988-00089239 the world 19 percent all these numerical xAsSK5jNJmA-00397-00089240-00089431 data have been exposed by researchers xAsSK5jNJmA-00398-00089432-00089659 like Carlo Paula a political scientist xAsSK5jNJmA-00399-00089660-00089823 at the university of sassari xAsSK5jNJmA-00400-00089824-00090058 even other polls published by xAsSK5jNJmA-00401-00090059-00090265 professional organizations for public xAsSK5jNJmA-00402-00090266-00090430 opinion research contribute to xAsSK5jNJmA-00403-00090431-00090607 corroborating more or less these xAsSK5jNJmA-00404-00090608-00090835 findings and their accuracy however this xAsSK5jNJmA-00405-00090836-00090988 support has heretofore failed to xAsSK5jNJmA-00406-00090989-00091219 translate into electoral success for pro xAsSK5jNJmA-00407-00091220-00091408 sovereignty Sardinian forces and a xAsSK5jNJmA-00408-00091409-00091684 vigorous political action in fact this xAsSK5jNJmA-00409-00091685-00091894 strong sense of regional identity does xAsSK5jNJmA-00410-00091895-00092098 not seem to benefit any regional party xAsSK5jNJmA-00411-00092099-00092275 as it is also combined with lack of xAsSK5jNJmA-00412-00092276-00092479 political engagement and a general xAsSK5jNJmA-00413-00092480-00092721 distrust in institutions and parties xAsSK5jNJmA-00414-00092722-00092874 including those putting emphasis on xAsSK5jNJmA-00415-00092875-00093080 Sardinian identity moreover the xAsSK5jNJmA-00416-00093081-00093206 nationalist movement has a xAsSK5jNJmA-00417-00093207-00093360 well-documented history of xAsSK5jNJmA-00418-00093361-00093563 fractionalization all attempts to unify xAsSK5jNJmA-00419-00093564-00093782 the nationalist subgroups have so far xAsSK5jNJmA-00420-00093783-00093996 failed thus thus artists movement still xAsSK5jNJmA-00421-00093997-00094157 suffers from being highly fragmented xAsSK5jNJmA-00422-00094158-00094319 into a large number of political xAsSK5jNJmA-00423-00094320-00094617 subgroups pushing different policies all xAsSK5jNJmA-00424-00094618-00094856 thus artist parties put together usually xAsSK5jNJmA-00425-00094857-00095075 when around 10 to 20 percent of the vote xAsSK5jNJmA-00426-00095076-00095288 in regional elections with not a single xAsSK5jNJmA-00427-00095289-00095478 one managing to emerge as a serious xAsSK5jNJmA-00428-00095479-00095762 competitor to the statewide parties such xAsSK5jNJmA-00429-00095763-00095981 disconnect between societal views and xAsSK5jNJmA-00430-00095982-00096188 political capitalization is called by xAsSK5jNJmA-00431-00096189-00096603 some scholars like pauletta dis organist xAsSK5jNJmA-00432-00096604-00096932 actors kinesio nade dis organic adeg lia xAsSK5jNJmA-00433-00096933-00097284 tory regional st unlike other european xAsSK5jNJmA-00434-00097285-00097515 regions with nationalist tendencies even xAsSK5jNJmA-00435-00097516-00097716 the local branches of statewide parties xAsSK5jNJmA-00436-00097717-00097925 have incorporated regionalist elements xAsSK5jNJmA-00437-00097926-00098075 in their political agenda thus xAsSK5jNJmA-00438-00098076-00098280 undermining the once distinctive sardis xAsSK5jNJmA-00439-00098281-00098448 demands it is to be mentioned for xAsSK5jNJmA-00440-00098449-00098738 example francesco casitas constitutional xAsSK5jNJmA-00441-00098739-00099090 bill n 352 to reform the Sardinian xAsSK5jNJmA-00442-00099091-00099329 statute which ended up being eventually xAsSK5jNJmA-00443-00099330-00099534 rejected by the Italian parliament and xAsSK5jNJmA-00444-00099535-00099692 aimed to recognize the island as a xAsSK5jNJmA-00445-00099693-00099887 distinct nation within Italy and to xAsSK5jNJmA-00446-00099888-00100013 granted the right to self-determination xAsSK5jNJmA-00447-00100014-00100286 the nationalist parties have xAsSK5jNJmA-00448-00100287-00100487 disjointedly responded to the long term xAsSK5jNJmA-00449-00100488-00100700 accommodation strategy promoted by the xAsSK5jNJmA-00450-00100701-00100919 state wide ones some refused to team up xAsSK5jNJmA-00451-00100920-00101097 while others tried to work with the pro xAsSK5jNJmA-00452-00101098-00101334 Italian parties as coalition partners in xAsSK5jNJmA-00453-00101335-00101504 the hopes of applying further pressure xAsSK5jNJmA-00454-00101505-00101654 from within to favour increased xAsSK5jNJmA-00455-00101655-00101849 devolution either choice has been met xAsSK5jNJmA-00456-00101850-00101979 with diffidence by the Sardinian xAsSK5jNJmA-00457-00101980-00102182 electorate leading the various artist xAsSK5jNJmA-00458-00102183-00102356 parties to play a marginal role in xAsSK5jNJmA-00459-00102357-00102747 Sardinian politics in the 2014 regional xAsSK5jNJmA-00460-00102748-00102948 election for instance more than a dozen xAsSK5jNJmA-00461-00102949-00103181 sardis parties of different connotations xAsSK5jNJmA-00462-00103182-00103343 took part to the electoral competition xAsSK5jNJmA-00463-00103344-00103568 but yet again because of their number xAsSK5jNJmA-00464-00103569-00103760 and political fragmentation they did not xAsSK5jNJmA-00465-00103761-00103950 manage to win as many seats as they were xAsSK5jNJmA-00466-00103951-00104159 initially supposed to some think even xAsSK5jNJmA-00467-00104160-00104330 because of a tactical mistake by the xAsSK5jNJmA-00468-00104331-00104528 progress sponsored list which was then xAsSK5jNJmA-00469-00104529-00104728 led by the novelist Micaela mirja xAsSK5jNJmA-00470-00104729-00104964 despite the combined result of all of xAsSK5jNJmA-00471-00104965-00105236 the nationalist parties being around 26% xAsSK5jNJmA-00472-00105238-00105495 dropping to 18% for the pro-independence xAsSK5jNJmA-00473-00105496-00105740 forces they won only eight seats in the xAsSK5jNJmA-00474-00105741-00105906 Sardinian Regional Council xAsSK5jNJmA-00475-00105907-00106068 here is a summary of the results xAsSK5jNJmA-00476-00106069-00106320 the 2014 regional election for regional xAsSK5jNJmA-00477-00106321-00106724 parties Sardinian Reformers 6.0 percent xAsSK5jNJmA-00478-00106725-00106869 of the vote and three regional xAsSK5jNJmA-00479-00106870-00107177 councillors elected Sardinian Action xAsSK5jNJmA-00480-00107178-00107459 Party 4.7 percent of the vote and two xAsSK5jNJmA-00481-00107460-00107832 regional councillors elected United 2.8 xAsSK5jNJmA-00482-00107833-00108018 percent of the vote and no regional xAsSK5jNJmA-00483-00108019-00108333 councillors elected project Republic of xAsSK5jNJmA-00484-00108333-00108608 Sardinia 2.8 percent of the vote and no xAsSK5jNJmA-00485-00108609-00108899 regional councillors elected party of xAsSK5jNJmA-00486-00108900-00109182 Sardinians 2.7 percent of the vote and xAsSK5jNJmA-00487-00109183-00109473 two regional councillors elected red xAsSK5jNJmA-00488-00109474-00109743 Moors 2.6 percent of the vote and two xAsSK5jNJmA-00489-00109744-00110058 regional councillors elected Sardinian xAsSK5jNJmA-00490-00110058-00110346 democratic union 2.6 percent of the vote xAsSK5jNJmA-00491-00110347-00110551 and 1 Regional Council are elected xAsSK5jNJmA-00492-00110552-00110891 people progress sponsored list 2.2 xAsSK5jNJmA-00493-00110892-00111069 percent of the vote and no regional xAsSK5jNJmA-00494-00111070-00111377 councillors elected community's progress xAsSK5jNJmA-00495-00111378-00111645 sponsored list 1.8 percent of the vote xAsSK5jNJmA-00496-00111646-00111914 and no regional councillors pilly xAsSK5jNJmA-00497-00111915-00112218 president united sponsored list 1.7 xAsSK5jNJmA-00498-00112219-00112395 percent of the vote and no regional xAsSK5jNJmA-00499-00112396-00112722 councillors sardinia free zone movement xAsSK5jNJmA-00500-00112723-00113000 1.6 percent of the vote and 1 Regional xAsSK5jNJmA-00501-00113001-00113268 Council are elected independence xAsSK5jNJmA-00502-00113269-00113574 Republic of Sardinia 0.8 percent of the xAsSK5jNJmA-00503-00113575-00113795 vote and 1 Regional Council are elected xAsSK5jNJmA-00504-00113796-00114179 the base Sardinia 0.7 percent of the xAsSK5jNJmA-00505-00114180-00114412 vote and 1 Regional Council are elected xAsSK5jNJmA-00506-00114413-00114776 free zone movement 0.7 percent of the xAsSK5jNJmA-00507-00114777-00115022 vote and no regional councillors elected xAsSK5jNJmA-00508-00115023-00115383 forward together 0.7 percent of the vote xAsSK5jNJmA-00509-00115383-00115619 and no regional councillors elected xAsSK5jNJmA-00510-00115620-00115998 united independentist front 0.7 percent xAsSK5jNJmA-00511-00115999-00116183 of the vote and no regional councillors xAsSK5jNJmA-00512-00116184-00116499 elected sovereignty united sponsored xAsSK5jNJmA-00513-00116500-00116772 list 0.2 percent of the vote and no xAsSK5jNJmA-00514-00116773-00116954 regional councillors elected the list xAsSK5jNJmA-00515-00116955-00117137 does not include the christian popular xAsSK5jNJmA-00516-00117138-00117452 union 1 7 percent of the vote and 1 xAsSK5jNJmA-00517-00117453-00117659 Regional Council are elected because the xAsSK5jNJmA-00518-00117660-00117875 party despite being based in Sardinia xAsSK5jNJmA-00519-00117876-00118064 and having rarely participated in xAsSK5jNJmA-00520-00118065-00118259 general or regional elections outside xAsSK5jNJmA-00521-00118260-00118443 Sardinia claims not to be a regional xAsSK5jNJmA-00522-00118444-00119024 party but an Italian one xAsSK5jNJmA-00523-00119025-00119376 topic C also xAsSK5jNJmA-00524-00119377-00119555 you xAsSK5jNJmA-00525-00119556-00120010 Sardinia Sardinian people Sardinian xAsSK5jNJmA-00526-00120011-00120473 language nuragic civilization politics xAsSK5jNJmA-00527-00120474-00120858 of 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science xDDrGdJSYsM-00001-00000338-00000782 Persian MDM SIA C Tran madrasa olam ECOC xDDrGdJSYsM-00002-00000783-00001070 was one of the first modern institutions xDDrGdJSYsM-00003-00001071-00001298 of higher education in Iran at the turn xDDrGdJSYsM-00004-00001299-00001639 of the 20th century most of the nation's xDDrGdJSYsM-00005-00001641-00001868 political elite graduated from the xDDrGdJSYsM-00006-00001869-00002398 school xDDrGdJSYsM-00007-00002399-00002933 topic history xDDrGdJSYsM-00008-00002934-00003191 the school of political science was xDDrGdJSYsM-00009-00003192-00003629 founded in 1899 by Hassan pornea it was xDDrGdJSYsM-00010-00003629-00003829 run by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs xDDrGdJSYsM-00011-00003829-00004129 it later merged with the School of Law xDDrGdJSYsM-00012-00004130-00004418 madre cg ali hijo which had been xDDrGdJSYsM-00013-00004419-00004739 established in 1918 to form the Faculty xDDrGdJSYsM-00014-00004740-00004943 of law and political science of the 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financial awareness xDPE1w9Ri3k-00008-00002378-00002701 sections so my name is Raman deep Singh xDPE1w9Ri3k-00009-00002702-00003076 I hope you know me let's start let's xDPE1w9Ri3k-00010-00003077-00003331 start with a brief history so there was xDPE1w9Ri3k-00011-00003332-00003542 a time when companies used to issue xDPE1w9Ri3k-00012-00003543-00003902 share certificates before the digital xDPE1w9Ri3k-00013-00003903-00004267 era right now everything is digital but xDPE1w9Ri3k-00014-00004268-00004911 before 1996 in 1990s and 1980s the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00015-00004912-00005204 shells were rejected wire share xDPE1w9Ri3k-00016-00005205-00005552 certificates so the investors were xDPE1w9Ri3k-00017-00005553-00005756 supposed to keep the certificate safe xDPE1w9Ri3k-00018-00005757-00006072 and forwarded to buyer one that is sold xDPE1w9Ri3k-00019-00006073-00006644 so there was no you know there was no xDPE1w9Ri3k-00020-00006645-00006887 proper records actually no digital xDPE1w9Ri3k-00021-00006888-00007120 records there were physical record but xDPE1w9Ri3k-00022-00007122-00007313 there were no proper digital records you xDPE1w9Ri3k-00023-00007314-00007567 need to keep those share certificates xDPE1w9Ri3k-00024-00007568-00007862 with you but with the introduction of xDPE1w9Ri3k-00025-00007863-00008228 depositories our 1996 now there is no xDPE1w9Ri3k-00026-00008229-00008646 paperwork paperwork involved now people xDPE1w9Ri3k-00027-00008647-00009049 99.9% I mean I'm not making this data xDPE1w9Ri3k-00028-00009050-00009496 myself I mean it's from say be 99.9% of xDPE1w9Ri3k-00029-00009497-00009739 that investors they have converted their xDPE1w9Ri3k-00030-00009740-00010091 physical share certificate to the d-mat xDPE1w9Ri3k-00031-00010092-00010916 form be materialized form 99.9% physical xDPE1w9Ri3k-00032-00010917-00011192 share certificate holders or the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00033-00011193-00011581 investors they you know converted their xDPE1w9Ri3k-00034-00011582-00011792 she referred certificates which were in xDPE1w9Ri3k-00035-00011793-00011989 the form of physical share certificate xDPE1w9Ri3k-00036-00011990-00012416 into the D materialized form and this xDPE1w9Ri3k-00037-00012417-00012739 process is known as B materialization xDPE1w9Ri3k-00038-00012740-00012968 are you getting it this process is known xDPE1w9Ri3k-00039-00012969-00013255 as dematerialization so there is no xDPE1w9Ri3k-00040-00013256-00013376 paperwork in moil xDPE1w9Ri3k-00041-00013377-00013529 and this procedure is done xDPE1w9Ri3k-00042-00013530-00013718 electronically what is the procedure I xDPE1w9Ri3k-00043-00013719-00013862 am going to tell you in the next slide xDPE1w9Ri3k-00044-00013863-00014261 so the introduction of depositary system xDPE1w9Ri3k-00045-00014262-00014494 also gave rise to the new type of stock xDPE1w9Ri3k-00046-00014496-00014735 trade called dematerialization which I xDPE1w9Ri3k-00047-00014736-00015050 have already told you this process is xDPE1w9Ri3k-00048-00015051-00015251 known as dematerialization nowadays if xDPE1w9Ri3k-00049-00015252-00015443 you want to buy a share there is no need xDPE1w9Ri3k-00050-00015444-00015749 of share certificate you can open an xDPE1w9Ri3k-00051-00015750-00015932 account with a DP I am going to explain xDPE1w9Ri3k-00052-00015933-00016222 what is a DP and what is a deposit tree xDPE1w9Ri3k-00053-00016224-00016544 let me just explain that first so it is xDPE1w9Ri3k-00054-00016545-00016973 a depository before that this is the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00055-00016974-00017204 process that you need to understand this xDPE1w9Ri3k-00056-00017205-00017429 is the most important slide of this xDPE1w9Ri3k-00057-00017430-00017822 whole lecture I mean see there are two xDPE1w9Ri3k-00058-00017823-00018203 deposit trees in India so whenever you xDPE1w9Ri3k-00059-00018204-00018470 open an account with any depository xDPE1w9Ri3k-00060-00018471-00018812 participant or a DP let it be 0 they let xDPE1w9Ri3k-00061-00018813-00019064 it be a securities let it be HDFC xDPE1w9Ri3k-00062-00019065-00019385 securities as an investor you open an xDPE1w9Ri3k-00063-00019386-00019652 account with these 0 theis bay xDPE1w9Ri3k-00064-00019653-00019832 securities or whatever right I mean I xDPE1w9Ri3k-00065-00019833-00020078 say say securities are there many other xDPE1w9Ri3k-00066-00020079-00020417 you know there are odd 1000 DPS are xDPE1w9Ri3k-00067-00020418-00020696 there in India and these bps they need xDPE1w9Ri3k-00068-00020697-00020876 to you know register themselves either xDPE1w9Ri3k-00069-00020877-00021413 with NS and DSL or C DSL are you getting xDPE1w9Ri3k-00070-00021414-00021629 it there are just two deposit trees in xDPE1w9Ri3k-00071-00021630-00022004 India in DSL and C DSL and all the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00072-00022005-00022322 depository participants or the DPS they xDPE1w9Ri3k-00073-00022323-00022583 need to register themselves with the CA xDPE1w9Ri3k-00074-00022584-00022925 there C DSL or n DSL and investors xDPE1w9Ri3k-00075-00022926-00023219 themselves cannot go directly to the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00076-00023220-00023492 depositories they need to go to the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00077-00023493-00023744 depository participants and the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00078-00023745-00023927 depository participants they have the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00079-00023928-00024223 unlettered accounts with the depository xDPE1w9Ri3k-00080-00024224-00024710 are you getting it so suppose right now xDPE1w9Ri3k-00081-00024711-00024932 I have in my account with 0 then his bay xDPE1w9Ri3k-00082-00024933-00025289 securities and both of them are not sure xDPE1w9Ri3k-00083-00025290-00025615 I think both of them are from C DSL xDPE1w9Ri3k-00084-00025616-00025864 right if both of them are see I am not xDPE1w9Ri3k-00085-00025866-00026128 sure about it if both of them are from C xDPE1w9Ri3k-00086-00026129-00026521 DSL there are other you know DPS because xDPE1w9Ri3k-00087-00026522-00026729 depository participant we call them the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00088-00026730-00027002 DP is a short form I mean that can be a xDPE1w9Ri3k-00089-00027002-00027299 question in that paper is making app xDPE1w9Ri3k-00090-00027300-00027542 security it is a DP what is the first xDPE1w9Ri3k-00091-00027543-00027829 form of DP it is depository participant xDPE1w9Ri3k-00092-00027830-00028093 CD SL and in DSL these are to xDPE1w9Ri3k-00093-00028094-00028336 depositories and all the companies with xDPE1w9Ri3k-00094-00028337-00028592 whom you open and d-mat account all xDPE1w9Ri3k-00095-00028593-00028880 those are DP s-- depository participant xDPE1w9Ri3k-00096-00028881-00029077 and you are an investor so this is the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00097-00029078-00029464 simple process and say B is actually you xDPE1w9Ri3k-00098-00029465-00029683 know over viewing and monitoring even xDPE1w9Ri3k-00099-00029684-00030024 depositories and depository participants xDPE1w9Ri3k-00100-00030025-00030370 so what is a depository a depository let 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participants right you xDPE1w9Ri3k-00115-00034959-00035183 register yourself with the depository xDPE1w9Ri3k-00116-00035184-00035455 participant and you buy shares you buy xDPE1w9Ri3k-00117-00035456-00035815 mutual funds you buy you know government xDPE1w9Ri3k-00118-00035816-00036104 bonds you invest in IPOs through xDPE1w9Ri3k-00119-00036105-00036485 depository participants but the records xDPE1w9Ri3k-00120-00036486-00036787 are not maintained with the CDL and NDL xDPE1w9Ri3k-00121-00036788-00037021 these depository participants are xDPE1w9Ri3k-00122-00037022-00037330 registered with cbsl and in DSL right xDPE1w9Ri3k-00123-00037331-00037720 and they hold your you know securities xDPE1w9Ri3k-00124-00037721-00038012 and they hold your debentures bonds or xDPE1w9Ri3k-00125-00038013-00038227 government securities and there is a xDPE1w9Ri3k-00126-00038228-00038489 number to every investment I'm going to xDPE1w9Ri3k-00127-00038490-00038689 explain that in that you know next xDPE1w9Ri3k-00128-00038690-00039032 slides so this is the process there are xDPE1w9Ri3k-00129-00039033-00039251 two depository the full form of N and xDPE1w9Ri3k-00130-00039252-00039538 SDL this is our 10 DSL this is n SDL xDPE1w9Ri3k-00131-00039539-00039826 sorry for that this is NS DL this is not xDPE1w9Ri3k-00132-00039827-00040087 nd SL n s dl this is xDPE1w9Ri3k-00133-00040088-00040387 deal this is not India this is an LDL xDPE1w9Ri3k-00134-00040388-00040695 sorry for that so national securities xDPE1w9Ri3k-00135-00040696-00041054 depository limited this is NS d l and c xDPE1w9Ri3k-00136-00041055-00041401 DSL Central Depository Services Limited xDPE1w9Ri3k-00137-00041402-00041639 please remember the full form Central xDPE1w9Ri3k-00138-00041640-00041833 Depository Services Limited and national xDPE1w9Ri3k-00139-00041834-00042092 securities depository limited although xDPE1w9Ri3k-00140-00042093-00042380 most of the investors and even you know xDPE1w9Ri3k-00141-00042381-00042577 ADP employees that don't even know the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00142-00042578-00042955 full form of n C DSL and SD l but you xDPE1w9Ri3k-00143-00042956-00043114 should know because it can be there in xDPE1w9Ri3k-00144-00043115-00043361 the exams so there are just two deposit xDPE1w9Ri3k-00145-00043362-00043570 trees with who are registered with say B xDPE1w9Ri3k-00146-00043571-00043949 while there are odd 1000 around 1000 you xDPE1w9Ri3k-00147-00043950-00044101 know depository participants who are xDPE1w9Ri3k-00148-00044102-00044351 registered with these two you know xDPE1w9Ri3k-00149-00044352-00044758 deposit trees so who can be a DP any xDPE1w9Ri3k-00150-00044759-00045083 public financial institution let's say xDPE1w9Ri3k-00151-00045084-00045345 any commercial bank HDFC Bank Limited xDPE1w9Ri3k-00152-00045346-00045851 ICICI or sa SBI most of them are having xDPE1w9Ri3k-00153-00045852-00046270 you know or actually a DP one I know yes xDPE1w9Ri3k-00154-00046271-00046582 Bank I think they are not doing it xDPE1w9Ri3k-00155-00046583-00046805 actively but most of the banks they are xDPE1w9Ri3k-00156-00046806-00047230 a DP so they need approval of RBI so xDPE1w9Ri3k-00157-00047231-00047399 other financial state Financial xDPE1w9Ri3k-00158-00047400-00047587 Corporation custodian stock brokers xDPE1w9Ri3k-00159-00047588-00047824 clearing corporations clearing us for xDPE1w9Ri3k-00160-00047825-00048046 example there is Angel Broking there is xDPE1w9Ri3k-00161-00048047-00048286 like Mozilla Louisville so they are not xDPE1w9Ri3k-00162-00048287-00048536 commercial banks or you know financially xDPE1w9Ri3k-00163-00048537-00048870 financial institutions but still they xDPE1w9Ri3k-00164-00048871-00049096 they actually comply with that xDPE1w9Ri3k-00165-00049097-00049495 requirement prescribed by CB for that xDPE1w9Ri3k-00166-00049496-00049795 depositories one important point is that xDPE1w9Ri3k-00167-00049796-00050011 they should have a minimum net worth of xDPE1w9Ri3k-00168-00050012-00050188 rupees hundred crores that that is xDPE1w9Ri3k-00169-00050189-00050480 important for this these depositories xDPE1w9Ri3k-00170-00050481-00050810 that's a requirement what is an ISI on xDPE1w9Ri3k-00171-00050811-00051127 so how the depository is maintained the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00172-00051128-00051415 record so maintaining such huge record xDPE1w9Ri3k-00173-00051416-00051619 is actually difficult for them so there xDPE1w9Ri3k-00174-00051620-00051846 is is I an international security xDPE1w9Ri3k-00175-00051847-00052180 identification number so every month so xDPE1w9Ri3k-00176-00052182-00052327 if you are a regular trader or an xDPE1w9Ri3k-00177-00052328-00052582 investor for example I sometimes I xDPE1w9Ri3k-00178-00052583-00052993 invest in stocks every month that bp's xDPE1w9Ri3k-00179-00052994-00053251 are you know it is mandatory for the dps xDPE1w9Ri3k-00180-00053252-00053435 to send you to xDPE1w9Ri3k-00181-00053436-00053767 sectional statement via email xDPE1w9Ri3k-00182-00053769-00054023 why email they need to send you the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00183-00054024-00054287 transactional statement monthly xDPE1w9Ri3k-00184-00054288-00054647 transaction statement in that statement xDPE1w9Ri3k-00185-00054648-00054838 if you watch it closely if you get an xDPE1w9Ri3k-00186-00054839-00055150 opportunity to read that for every xDPE1w9Ri3k-00187-00055151-00055504 investment there is a to re digit this xDPE1w9Ri3k-00188-00055505-00055729 is actually important what is is ion xDPE1w9Ri3k-00189-00055730-00056011 this is a digit alphanumeric xDPE1w9Ri3k-00190-00056012-00056315 identification number allotted for every xDPE1w9Ri3k-00191-00056316-00056525 security transaction right for a xDPE1w9Ri3k-00192-00056526-00056921 security so for example this one so xDPE1w9Ri3k-00193-00056922-00057130 equity fully pay equity partly paid xDPE1w9Ri3k-00194-00057132-00057284 equity with the differential voting xDPE1w9Ri3k-00195-00057285-00057434 rights issue by the same issuer will xDPE1w9Ri3k-00196-00057435-00057667 have a different is ion so every xDPE1w9Ri3k-00197-00057669-00057860 investment there will be a different is xDPE1w9Ri3k-00198-00057861-00058004 I n whatever the investments you are xDPE1w9Ri3k-00199-00058004-00058340 making you will get a different is iron xDPE1w9Ri3k-00200-00058341-00058565 number right so this is international xDPE1w9Ri3k-00201-00058566-00058778 securities identification number if you xDPE1w9Ri3k-00202-00058779-00058961 watch if you check your monthly xDPE1w9Ri3k-00203-00058962-00059153 transaction summary you will get I xDPE1w9Ri3k-00204-00059154-00059392 assign numbers to all the investments xDPE1w9Ri3k-00205-00059394-00059713 let it be mutual funds let it be you xDPE1w9Ri3k-00206-00059714-00059944 know let it be mutual fund let it be xDPE1w9Ri3k-00207-00059945-00060146 stocks I led to be bonds and all right xDPE1w9Ri3k-00208-00060147-00060350 let it be to benches so this is known as xDPE1w9Ri3k-00209-00060351-00060686 the is iron so who are the registrar or xDPE1w9Ri3k-00210-00060687-00060829 the mutual fund agents xDPE1w9Ri3k-00211-00060830-00061066 so in my next slide our next lecture I xDPE1w9Ri3k-00212-00061067-00061369 am going to discuss the mutual funds so xDPE1w9Ri3k-00213-00061370-00061576 you can I think that is a I have already xDPE1w9Ri3k-00214-00061577-00061726 uploaded the mutual fund please check xDPE1w9Ri3k-00215-00061727-00061957 the mutual fund lecture in which I have xDPE1w9Ri3k-00216-00061958-00062249 mentioned I have explained the Registrar xDPE1w9Ri3k-00217-00062250-00062566 and the transfer agents for example if xDPE1w9Ri3k-00218-00062567-00062863 you want to buy a mutual fund xDPE1w9Ri3k-00219-00062864-00063118 suppose you are investors you are an xDPE1w9Ri3k-00220-00063119-00063554 investor you will go to an AMC a set xDPE1w9Ri3k-00221-00063554-00063781 management company who takes your money xDPE1w9Ri3k-00222-00063782-00064085 and who actually manage it who manages xDPE1w9Ri3k-00223-00064086-00064463 it right there examples of a MCS are xDPE1w9Ri3k-00224-00064464-00064876 let's say HDFC a sets are there and then xDPE1w9Ri3k-00225-00064877-00065135 Kotick is there and then may I mooch xDPE1w9Ri3k-00226-00065136-00065510 mutual funds is there Tata is there LNT xDPE1w9Ri3k-00227-00065511-00066019 is there are actually a lot LNT a lot of xDPE1w9Ri3k-00228-00066020-00066228 them Invesco and all xDPE1w9Ri3k-00229-00066229-00066566 and these AMC's are you know resist they xDPE1w9Ri3k-00230-00066567-00066771 register themselves with the register or xDPE1w9Ri3k-00231-00066772-00066986 transfer agents there are right now xDPE1w9Ri3k-00232-00066987-00067190 there are two agents like one is cams xDPE1w9Ri3k-00233-00067191-00067850 and the second one is Carvey so these xDPE1w9Ri3k-00234-00067851-00068021 EMC they need to register with either xDPE1w9Ri3k-00235-00068022-00068294 with cams or with Carvey so registrar or xDPE1w9Ri3k-00236-00068295-00068480 transfer agents are that trust or the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00237-00068481-00068753 institutions that registers and xDPE1w9Ri3k-00238-00068754-00068963 maintaining that detailed records of the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00239-00068964-00069173 transaction of the investors for the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00240-00069174-00069401 conveyance of the mutual fund houses so xDPE1w9Ri3k-00241-00069402-00069665 you know AMC is they are doing the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00242-00069666-00069915 marketing right AMC is they are managing xDPE1w9Ri3k-00243-00069916-00070271 the money but these you know registrar xDPE1w9Ri3k-00244-00070272-00070667 and transfer agents their job is to you xDPE1w9Ri3k-00245-00070668-00070904 know maintain the records the investor xDPE1w9Ri3k-00246-00070905-00071342 cannot you know further these cans and xDPE1w9Ri3k-00247-00071343-00071474 Carvey they have their own mobile xDPE1w9Ri3k-00248-00071475-00071721 application their online platform where xDPE1w9Ri3k-00249-00071722-00071936 you can directly you know login and you xDPE1w9Ri3k-00250-00071937-00072165 can make your investments into various xDPE1w9Ri3k-00251-00072166-00072396 AMC's yes as an investor you can xDPE1w9Ri3k-00252-00072397-00072611 directly make an account you know create xDPE1w9Ri3k-00253-00072612-00072854 an account with cams or with Carvey all xDPE1w9Ri3k-00254-00072855-00072944 right xDPE1w9Ri3k-00255-00072945-00073115 they provide the investor services as xDPE1w9Ri3k-00256-00073116-00073422 well so for the detailed lecture go to xDPE1w9Ri3k-00257-00073423-00073627 the Mutual Friend chapter xDPE1w9Ri3k-00258-00073628-00073859 dematerialization I have already told xDPE1w9Ri3k-00259-00073860-00074172 you when the physical share certificate xDPE1w9Ri3k-00260-00074173-00074384 they are converted in into the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00261-00074385-00074634 materialized form this process is known xDPE1w9Ri3k-00262-00074635-00074882 as dematerialization this process is not xDPE1w9Ri3k-00263-00074883-00075159 compulsory rematerialize ation is xDPE1w9Ri3k-00264-00075160-00075416 converting from deem you know xDPE1w9Ri3k-00265-00075417-00075593 materialized form to the physical form xDPE1w9Ri3k-00266-00075594-00075710 that this process is known as xDPE1w9Ri3k-00267-00075711-00076025 materialization who's a registered owner xDPE1w9Ri3k-00268-00076026-00076229 of security a Salim Ali Khan that is xDPE1w9Ri3k-00269-00076230-00076391 really important who's it to actual on xDPE1w9Ri3k-00270-00076392-00076649 owner of that you know shares that you xDPE1w9Ri3k-00271-00076650-00077009 have purchased in the books of NS DL or xDPE1w9Ri3k-00272-00077010-00077381 the C DSL in the books of C DSL if you xDPE1w9Ri3k-00273-00077382-00077828 have you know made your purchases using xDPE1w9Ri3k-00274-00077829-00078125 your DP s DP services for example you xDPE1w9Ri3k-00275-00078126-00078347 made purchases using the 0th RSB xDPE1w9Ri3k-00276-00078348-00078696 security services in the c DSLR and xDPE1w9Ri3k-00277-00078697-00078923 ESL's account there will be the name of xDPE1w9Ri3k-00278-00078924-00079310 that DP DP is the actual owner in the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00279-00079311-00079598 books of CD SLN and dsm xDPE1w9Ri3k-00280-00079599-00079898 so if somebody you know invest via xDPE1w9Ri3k-00281-00079899-00080180 physical form then the person who xDPE1w9Ri3k-00282-00080181-00080411 actually the actual investor is the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00283-00080412-00080639 owner of the securities in the books of xDPE1w9Ri3k-00284-00080640-00081068 C DSL and in DSL its actual owner is not xDPE1w9Ri3k-00285-00081069-00081365 the right word registered owner is the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00286-00081366-00081593 right word right he would be the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00287-00081594-00081791 registered owner not the actual actual xDPE1w9Ri3k-00288-00081792-00082151 owner is investor anyhow but in case you xDPE1w9Ri3k-00289-00082152-00082411 have done the investment using the D xDPE1w9Ri3k-00290-00082412-00082676 dematerialized firm registered owner is xDPE1w9Ri3k-00291-00082677-00083165 a DP right so that's a really important xDPE1w9Ri3k-00292-00083166-00083447 opening an account with a DP any xDPE1w9Ri3k-00293-00083448-00083684 individual can open an account including xDPE1w9Ri3k-00294-00083685-00083753 the NRA but xDPE1w9Ri3k-00295-00083754-00084133 hgf cannot open an account with a DP xDPE1w9Ri3k-00296-00084134-00084410 multiple account can be opened with xDPE1w9Ri3k-00297-00084411-00084674 various dps as I have account with the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00298-00084675-00084962 hd-sdi account with the IDP I have xDPE1w9Ri3k-00299-00084963-00085091 account with the SV and I have an xDPE1w9Ri3k-00300-00085092-00085229 account with zero so I want to close xDPE1w9Ri3k-00301-00085230-00085559 most of them but you can have a multiple xDPE1w9Ri3k-00302-00085560-00085961 accounts with the various d piece so xDPE1w9Ri3k-00303-00085962-00086207 transactional statement every month the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00304-00086208-00086462 DP is required it is mandatory for the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00305-00086463-00086726 DPS to send you that rejection statement xDPE1w9Ri3k-00306-00086727-00086963 so that is important so account closes xDPE1w9Ri3k-00307-00086964-00087098 that one is very important if you want xDPE1w9Ri3k-00308-00087099-00087230 to close your account xDPE1w9Ri3k-00309-00087231-00087443 there can be two cases there are no xDPE1w9Ri3k-00310-00087444-00087647 shares in your account there is nothing xDPE1w9Ri3k-00311-00087648-00087986 in your account it is it has nothing so xDPE1w9Ri3k-00312-00087987-00088154 you can just fill your account looser xDPE1w9Ri3k-00313-00088155-00088550 form and submit the delivery instruction xDPE1w9Ri3k-00314-00088551-00088703 slip right xDPE1w9Ri3k-00315-00088704-00088913 what is delivery instructions slip that xDPE1w9Ri3k-00316-00088914-00089063 one is important delivery instructions xDPE1w9Ri3k-00317-00089064-00089261 live I forgot to you know make a proper xDPE1w9Ri3k-00318-00089262-00089417 slide for that so delivery the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00319-00089418-00089621 instruction slip is just like a xDPE1w9Ri3k-00320-00089622-00089894 checkbook see there there is a lot of xDPE1w9Ri3k-00321-00089895-00090200 similarity between a DP and a banker in xDPE1w9Ri3k-00322-00090201-00090622 the bank you deposit your money in DP xDPE1w9Ri3k-00323-00090623-00090916 you you just keep your shares and xDPE1w9Ri3k-00324-00090917-00091427 sometimes even mutual funds right in DP xDPE1w9Ri3k-00325-00091428-00091745 right there are check there our delivery xDPE1w9Ri3k-00326-00091746-00091988 instruction books delivery instruction xDPE1w9Ri3k-00327-00091989-00092135 slips with the bank's there are xDPE1w9Ri3k-00328-00092136-00092468 checkbooks so delivery instruction slip xDPE1w9Ri3k-00329-00092469-00092840 is a kind of checkbook for shares xDPE1w9Ri3k-00330-00092841-00093067 right so when you want to close your xDPE1w9Ri3k-00331-00093068-00093518 account your d-mat account with a DP you xDPE1w9Ri3k-00332-00093519-00093761 need to Villa account closure form and xDPE1w9Ri3k-00333-00093762-00093941 you need to attach the delivery xDPE1w9Ri3k-00334-00093942-00094217 instructions slip in cases there are no xDPE1w9Ri3k-00335-00094218-00094454 shares in your account but if you have xDPE1w9Ri3k-00336-00094455-00094811 some shares in your account and you want xDPE1w9Ri3k-00337-00094812-00095224 to transfer your shares from one DP to xDPE1w9Ri3k-00338-00095225-00095573 another DP for example if you want if I xDPE1w9Ri3k-00339-00095574-00095828 actually in past I wanted to transfer my xDPE1w9Ri3k-00340-00095829-00096098 shares from SBI to HDFC I wanted to do xDPE1w9Ri3k-00341-00096099-00096475 that but I mean tunker they don't do it xDPE1w9Ri3k-00342-00096476-00096704 I mean the services of a SVA security is xDPE1w9Ri3k-00343-00096705-00096824 actually really bad actually xDPE1w9Ri3k-00344-00096825-00097178 so uh so you need to fill that account xDPE1w9Ri3k-00345-00097179-00097432 closure form right you need to attach xDPE1w9Ri3k-00346-00097433-00097630 the delivery instructions slip in case xDPE1w9Ri3k-00347-00097631-00097849 you have misplaced it you need to fill xDPE1w9Ri3k-00348-00097850-00098026 another form that I have misplaced a xDPE1w9Ri3k-00349-00098027-00098434 slip and you need to sign it and then xDPE1w9Ri3k-00350-00098435-00098822 you need to attach a properly stand CMR xDPE1w9Ri3k-00351-00098823-00099100 copy for example if I want to transfer xDPE1w9Ri3k-00352-00099101-00099560 my shares from SBI to HDFC I need to get xDPE1w9Ri3k-00353-00099561-00100024 a CMR copy client master copy from HDFC xDPE1w9Ri3k-00354-00100025-00100385 properly stamped and I need to submit it xDPE1w9Ri3k-00355-00100386-00100766 to SBI are you getting it so that is the xDPE1w9Ri3k-00356-00100767-00101204 account illusion of process so that's xDPE1w9Ri3k-00357-00101205-00101465 all for today students I hope you are xDPE1w9Ri3k-00358-00101466-00101630 able to understand that today's lecture xDPE1w9Ri3k-00359-00101631-00101915 that was quite short and crisp so if xDPE1w9Ri3k-00360-00101916-00102110 there is any doubt in your mind you can xDPE1w9Ri3k-00361-00102111-00102299 ask your doubts in that discussion board xDPE1w9Ri3k-00362-00102300-00102500 or just go to the comments section and xDPE1w9Ri3k-00363-00102501-00102749 comment there so I'll be there for you xDPE1w9Ri3k-00364-00102750-00103013 please like this video and please xDPE1w9Ri3k-00365-00103014-00103216 subscribe this channel that is actually xDPE1w9Ri3k-00366-00103217-00103402 really important for me so that's all xDPE1w9Ri3k-00367-00103403-00103547 for today students thank you know a very xDPE1w9Ri3k-00368-00103548-00103819 nice day bye xEBfVlPJ3T0-00000-00000451-00000707 hello teacher mentors xEBfVlPJ3T0-00001-00000708-00000989 so far we've learned how we can set xEBfVlPJ3T0-00002-00000990-00001265 goals for our regions or schools xEBfVlPJ3T0-00003-00001266-00001630 as mentors we need data to set goals xEBfVlPJ3T0-00004-00001632-00001913 measure our progress towards these goals xEBfVlPJ3T0-00005-00001914-00002218 and plan our next steps so in this video xEBfVlPJ3T0-00006-00002219-00002513 we'll cover exactly this we'll cover the xEBfVlPJ3T0-00007-00002514-00002747 data you need to review and analyze xEBfVlPJ3T0-00008-00002748-00003005 periodically and suggestions for xEBfVlPJ3T0-00009-00003006-00003155 conducting a gold review meeting xEBfVlPJ3T0-00010-00003156-00003617 effectively xEBfVlPJ3T0-00011-00003618-00003899 in our previous videos we have discussed xEBfVlPJ3T0-00012-00003900-00004175 two goals let's understand what data we xEBfVlPJ3T0-00013-00004176-00004438 should review based on the goals xEBfVlPJ3T0-00014-00004439-00004799 for goal 1 where 100 teacher and student xEBfVlPJ3T0-00015-00004800-00005086 accounts need to be created we need to xEBfVlPJ3T0-00016-00005087-00005315 review the rostering data xEBfVlPJ3T0-00017-00005316-00005501 now you must be thinking what is xEBfVlPJ3T0-00018-00005502-00005759 rostering the process of creating xEBfVlPJ3T0-00019-00005760-00006052 teacher accounts creating class and xEBfVlPJ3T0-00020-00006053-00006245 adding students in the class is called xEBfVlPJ3T0-00021-00006246-00006563 rostering data can be tracked only for xEBfVlPJ3T0-00022-00006564-00006755 those teachers and students whose xEBfVlPJ3T0-00023-00006756-00006953 accounts have been created therefore xEBfVlPJ3T0-00024-00006954-00007181 creating accounts in the first step to xEBfVlPJ3T0-00025-00007181-00007355 ensure that you get a complete picture xEBfVlPJ3T0-00026-00007356-00007559 of active accounts in your schools xEBfVlPJ3T0-00027-00007559-00007925 regions block or District so as mentors xEBfVlPJ3T0-00028-00007926-00008177 you must ensure 100 teachers have xEBfVlPJ3T0-00029-00008178-00008381 created their accounts on the KA xEBfVlPJ3T0-00030-00008382-00008596 platform you need to track how many xEBfVlPJ3T0-00031-00008597-00008819 teachers from each school have xEBfVlPJ3T0-00032-00008820-00009046 successfully created their accounts on xEBfVlPJ3T0-00033-00009047-00009353 Khan Academy on a weekly basis xEBfVlPJ3T0-00034-00009354-00009617 the next step is to check whether these xEBfVlPJ3T0-00035-00009618-00009809 teachers have created their respective xEBfVlPJ3T0-00036-00009810-00009996 classes on their teacher dashboards xEBfVlPJ3T0-00037-00009997-00010342 third step under account creation is xEBfVlPJ3T0-00038-00010343-00010528 whether teachers have added all their xEBfVlPJ3T0-00039-00010529-00010799 students to their respective classes now xEBfVlPJ3T0-00040-00010800-00011081 let us see this as an example xEBfVlPJ3T0-00041-00011082-00011309 you can collect data on your districts xEBfVlPJ3T0-00042-00011310-00011578 blocks and schools like number of xEBfVlPJ3T0-00043-00011579-00011824 teachers who have registered number of xEBfVlPJ3T0-00044-00011825-00012035 classes that have been created and xEBfVlPJ3T0-00045-00012036-00012203 number of students added to these xEBfVlPJ3T0-00046-00012204-00012455 classes you can see the number of xEBfVlPJ3T0-00047-00012456-00012659 teachers who have created their accounts xEBfVlPJ3T0-00048-00012660-00012946 their Associated classes and number of xEBfVlPJ3T0-00049-00012947-00013193 students added to these classes xEBfVlPJ3T0-00050-00013194-00013541 you can see schools 3 and 4 have one xEBfVlPJ3T0-00051-00013541-00013751 teacher each who have created their xEBfVlPJ3T0-00052-00013752-00013991 classes whereas all the other schools xEBfVlPJ3T0-00053-00013991-00014266 have two teachers each once you have xEBfVlPJ3T0-00054-00014268-00014494 this kind of data you can identify xEBfVlPJ3T0-00055-00014495-00014722 schools that need support and schools xEBfVlPJ3T0-00056-00014723-00015316 that are doing well xEBfVlPJ3T0-00057-00015318-00015593 after account creation the second goal xEBfVlPJ3T0-00058-00015594-00015791 that we 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xEBfVlPJ3T0-00128-00032975-00033262 with those teachers and encourage them xEBfVlPJ3T0-00129-00033263-00033502 to try out the strategies adopted by xEBfVlPJ3T0-00130-00033503-00033802 successful teachers note points related xEBfVlPJ3T0-00131-00033803-00034090 to infrastructure timetable arrangements xEBfVlPJ3T0-00132-00034091-00034337 and speak to principals or other xEBfVlPJ3T0-00133-00034338-00034540 concerned officials about it xEBfVlPJ3T0-00134-00034541-00034852 congratulations you are now ready to xEBfVlPJ3T0-00135-00034853-00035015 conduct a review meeting xEBfVlPJ3T0-00136-00035016-00035315 do remember that you are collecting data xEBfVlPJ3T0-00137-00035316-00035585 periodically and analyzing it xEBfVlPJ3T0-00138-00035586-00035777 in case you are from our partner State xEBfVlPJ3T0-00139-00035778-00036005 schools take a look at the data tracker xEBfVlPJ3T0-00140-00036006-00036215 you've received from us xEBfVlPJ3T0-00141-00036216-00036479 once you've done this note down the 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xGyVLe6hclk-00006-00002363-00002533 national data management services that xGyVLe6hclk-00007-00002534-00002887 we provide in Ireland and the Irish xGyVLe6hclk-00008-00002888-00003138 national node gif node was set up by the xGyVLe6hclk-00009-00003139-00003313 equivalent of our environment ministry xGyVLe6hclk-00010-00003314-00003652 and the starting point for our center is xGyVLe6hclk-00011-00003653-00003877 the mobilization of data our ministry xGyVLe6hclk-00012-00003878-00004036 wants us to make sure that the data is xGyVLe6hclk-00013-00004036-00004293 used for policy implementation for xGyVLe6hclk-00014-00004294-00004429 conservation management so that's very xGyVLe6hclk-00015-00004430-00004870 much the starting point for us for those xGyVLe6hclk-00016-00004871-00005016 of you who don't know where where xGyVLe6hclk-00017-00005017-00005256 Ireland is where the little island in xGyVLe6hclk-00018-00005257-00005497 the Atlantic we're just beside the soon 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data set and then xGyVLe6hclk-00087-00023051-00023260 on the bottom there's two panels showing xGyVLe6hclk-00088-00023261-00023485 the distribution of records each month xGyVLe6hclk-00089-00023486-00023725 across the data set and a temporal xGyVLe6hclk-00090-00023726-00023893 spread to just give you a flavor of some xGyVLe6hclk-00091-00023894-00024147 of the some of the issues around the xGyVLe6hclk-00092-00024148-00024700 species profile these records species xGyVLe6hclk-00093-00024701-00024925 observations can be plotted and mapped xGyVLe6hclk-00094-00024926-00025237 on a dynamic map at various scales this xGyVLe6hclk-00095-00025238-00025494 is showing you the scale the all-ireland xGyVLe6hclk-00096-00025495-00025837 scale if you're interested you can zoom xGyVLe6hclk-00097-00025838-00026077 right down to the one to 50,000 scale xGyVLe6hclk-00098-00026077-00026430 which plots the observations that occur xGyVLe6hclk-00099-00026431-00026683 and you can even go down at the aerial 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xGyVLe6hclk-00220-00054470-00054697 survey of the distribution this this xGyVLe6hclk-00221-00054698-00054982 this of these organisms the key thing is xGyVLe6hclk-00222-00054983-00055395 to get into the process early on and xGyVLe6hclk-00223-00055396-00055609 pragmatically the issue is although our xGyVLe6hclk-00224-00055610-00055822 mapping system is state-of-the-art and xGyVLe6hclk-00225-00055823-00056020 we were quite pleased with the xGyVLe6hclk-00226-00056021-00056182 development work there's always the case xGyVLe6hclk-00227-00056183-00056371 that other local authorities other other xGyVLe6hclk-00228-00056372-00056575 bodies have their own GIS systems which xGyVLe6hclk-00229-00056576-00056754 very often are not entirely compatible xGyVLe6hclk-00230-00056755-00057019 with with with the one we have so we've xGyVLe6hclk-00231-00057020-00057301 created a facility where users can xGyVLe6hclk-00232-00057302-00057484 download shape files from their own xGyVLe6hclk-00233-00057485-00057799 systems onto their desktop and query our xGyVLe6hclk-00234-00057800-00058041 database using their own shape files and xGyVLe6hclk-00235-00058042-00058237 this is just a very pragmatic step but xGyVLe6hclk-00236-00058238-00058372 it does mean straight away that there's xGyVLe6hclk-00237-00058373-00058621 a kind of a fit between different GIS xGyVLe6hclk-00238-00058622-00058903 systems and the data can be can be mined xGyVLe6hclk-00239-00058904-00059098 very easily from our system and this xGyVLe6hclk-00240-00059099-00059272 they can store the information on their xGyVLe6hclk-00241-00059273-00060003 on their laptop which our database PC xGyVLe6hclk-00242-00060004-00060244 there are two examples in terms of a xGyVLe6hclk-00243-00060245-00060511 species query and an area query which xGyVLe6hclk-00244-00060512-00060729 which allows people to interrogate the xGyVLe6hclk-00245-00060730-00061087 database one of the other things that xGyVLe6hclk-00246-00061088-00061357 we've provided is for we're a national xGyVLe6hclk-00247-00061358-00061566 organization and we provide an online xGyVLe6hclk-00248-00061567-00061767 data management service for data xGyVLe6hclk-00249-00061769-00062059 providers we're a small island so there xGyVLe6hclk-00250-00062060-00062217 isn't a lot of competing interest so xGyVLe6hclk-00251-00062219-00062505 we've provided a facility online where xGyVLe6hclk-00252-00062507-00062937 we're recorders can capture their data xGyVLe6hclk-00253-00062938-00063178 digitize their data through our system xGyVLe6hclk-00254-00063179-00063382 and store their data and map their data xGyVLe6hclk-00255-00063383-00063658 this is just gives you an overview or a xGyVLe6hclk-00256-00063659-00063832 screen grab really of the the kind of xGyVLe6hclk-00257-00063833-00064102 data entry template that we have and the xGyVLe6hclk-00258-00064103-00064237 key things to show that there's xGyVLe6hclk-00259-00064238-00064611 different ways to import your data and xGyVLe6hclk-00260-00064612-00064927 this is what the form looks like this is xGyVLe6hclk-00261-00064928-00065185 one just for recording mammals but we xGyVLe6hclk-00262-00065186-00065512 have the ability to customize data entry xGyVLe6hclk-00263-00065513-00065866 forms for any national expert for any xGyVLe6hclk-00264-00065867-00066325 NGO or organic professional organization xGyVLe6hclk-00265-00066326-00066610 we can customize these data using our xGyVLe6hclk-00266-00066611-00066964 own database and these forms can be xGyVLe6hclk-00267-00066965-00067198 embedded on the partner organizations xGyVLe6hclk-00268-00067199-00067381 websites without any branding from the xGyVLe6hclk-00269-00067382-00067519 data center so it looks as if the xGyVLe6hclk-00270-00067520-00067663 partner organizations have their own xGyVLe6hclk-00271-00067664-00068034 data management system xGyVLe6hclk-00272-00068035-00068329 what it allows them to do and we find xGyVLe6hclk-00273-00068330-00068683 this is serves most data providers it xGyVLe6hclk-00274-00068684-00068989 allows them to query their own data by xGyVLe6hclk-00275-00068990-00069208 taxonomic group what observations have xGyVLe6hclk-00276-00069209-00069433 been done by taxonomic group it allows xGyVLe6hclk-00277-00069434-00069784 them to query their data spatially and xGyVLe6hclk-00278-00069785-00069937 we've developed a small local Google xGyVLe6hclk-00279-00069938-00070291 Maps application which allows the xGyVLe6hclk-00280-00070292-00070489 organization's of the individuals to xGyVLe6hclk-00281-00070490-00070753 actually map their own data and query xGyVLe6hclk-00282-00070754-00070927 the individual records it's a kind of a xGyVLe6hclk-00283-00070928-00071197 mapping system light but for most xGyVLe6hclk-00284-00071198-00071371 organizations this is all they need to xGyVLe6hclk-00285-00071372-00071518 do and they're very added they're very xGyVLe6hclk-00286-00071519-00071842 happy with that with that system but the xGyVLe6hclk-00287-00071843-00072043 benefit is that any observations are xGyVLe6hclk-00288-00072044-00072211 that are out there who want to work with xGyVLe6hclk-00289-00072212-00072457 us they can digitize their data through xGyVLe6hclk-00290-00072458-00072682 this and the data is made available both xGyVLe6hclk-00291-00072683-00072916 to the partner organization and to the xGyVLe6hclk-00292-00072917-00073357 data center very very efficiently so xGyVLe6hclk-00293-00073358-00073552 this is just a simplified schematic xGyVLe6hclk-00294-00073553-00073966 model of how the system works on the xGyVLe6hclk-00295-00073967-00074110 left hand side we have our national xGyVLe6hclk-00296-00074111-00074290 biodiversity database this is where all xGyVLe6hclk-00297-00074291-00074644 the validated data resides it's from xGyVLe6hclk-00298-00074645-00074887 this high-quality validated data that xGyVLe6hclk-00299-00074888-00075124 the biodiversity Maps data feeds into xGyVLe6hclk-00300-00075125-00075409 and then through the internet all that xGyVLe6hclk-00301-00075410-00075619 data can be acquired can be accessed by xGyVLe6hclk-00302-00075620-00075919 the data user there the data user is xGyVLe6hclk-00303-00075920-00076207 only accessing validated scientifically xGyVLe6hclk-00304-00076208-00076549 accurate data and then through the xGyVLe6hclk-00305-00076550-00076765 development of web service API we xGyVLe6hclk-00306-00076766-00077050 provide data to jeebus we provided to xGyVLe6hclk-00307-00077051-00077242 third-party organizations partner xGyVLe6hclk-00308-00077243-00077449 organizations and we have a developed a xGyVLe6hclk-00309-00077450-00077671 mobile phone app so this is a whole xGyVLe6hclk-00310-00077672-00077908 series of services we're providing to xGyVLe6hclk-00311-00077909-00078181 our partner organizations and the xGyVLe6hclk-00312-00078182-00078436 provision of the recording form the xGyVLe6hclk-00313-00078437-00078724 record submission form then allows us to xGyVLe6hclk-00314-00078725-00079231 obtain a capture data and we put that xGyVLe6hclk-00315-00079232-00079549 into a recording system database this is xGyVLe6hclk-00316-00079550-00079741 what the recorders can use for their own xGyVLe6hclk-00317-00079742-00080029 data management system and is it it xGyVLe6hclk-00318-00080030-00080380 allows us to capture a lot of data we xGyVLe6hclk-00319-00080381-00080542 can extract the data from that recorder xGyVLe6hclk-00320-00080543-00080818 system database and from data providers xGyVLe6hclk-00321-00080819-00081049 and there's a data validation and xGyVLe6hclk-00322-00081050-00081219 verification system xGyVLe6hclk-00323-00081220-00081426 before the data then resides in to the xGyVLe6hclk-00324-00081427-00081657 national biodiversity database so the xGyVLe6hclk-00325-00081658-00081843 point here is that there's two parallel xGyVLe6hclk-00326-00081844-00082017 systems the one to the left of that xGyVLe6hclk-00327-00082018-00082329 hatch line is with validated data if we xGyVLe6hclk-00328-00082330-00082599 want to providing data to to the pilot xGyVLe6hclk-00329-00082600-00082767 science policy interface or from the xGyVLe6hclk-00330-00082768-00083001 let's say strategic planning site we xGyVLe6hclk-00331-00083002-00083142 have to make sure that that data is xGyVLe6hclk-00332-00083143-00083442 high-quality so we have to make sure xGyVLe6hclk-00333-00083443-00083655 that any of the data we mobilize is as xGyVLe6hclk-00334-00083656-00083910 high quality and as validated as we can xGyVLe6hclk-00335-00083911-00084219 make it and the system the data xGyVLe6hclk-00336-00084220-00084403 management system that we provide then xGyVLe6hclk-00337-00084404-00084679 to our partners and providers is right xGyVLe6hclk-00338-00084680-00084888 of the line and we're not actually we're xGyVLe6hclk-00339-00084889-00085080 not saying that those days are validated xGyVLe6hclk-00340-00085081-00085293 but people can use them and the xGyVLe6hclk-00341-00085294-00085413 important thing is that there is a xGyVLe6hclk-00342-00085414-00085609 firewall between the two data sets and xGyVLe6hclk-00343-00085610-00085828 we try to ensure there's very little xGyVLe6hclk-00344-00085829-00086209 contamination that way of course this is xGyVLe6hclk-00345-00086210-00086367 very important for us because it means xGyVLe6hclk-00346-00086368-00086541 that there's a direct link between the xGyVLe6hclk-00347-00086542-00086848 data providers and feeding in to the xGyVLe6hclk-00348-00086849-00087085 policy and conservation measures that xGyVLe6hclk-00349-00087086-00087235 we're involved in and I just want to xGyVLe6hclk-00350-00087236-00087385 give you one or two examples of how this xGyVLe6hclk-00351-00087386-00087836 might work in reality any individual xGyVLe6hclk-00352-00087837-00088161 citizen scientists or organization once xGyVLe6hclk-00353-00088162-00088428 they start accumulating the data those xGyVLe6hclk-00354-00088429-00088615 data once they're validators are now xGyVLe6hclk-00355-00088616-00088938 available for setting conservation xGyVLe6hclk-00356-00088939-00089100 priorities in ireland that's done xGyVLe6hclk-00357-00089101-00089300 through the production of red list and xGyVLe6hclk-00358-00089301-00089509 most of you are familiar with the Red xGyVLe6hclk-00359-00089510-00089741 List process this is just an example of xGyVLe6hclk-00360-00089742-00090109 how the red less work you get you have a xGyVLe6hclk-00361-00090110-00090330 database for spitting particular species xGyVLe6hclk-00362-00090331-00090609 and you compare the distribution over xGyVLe6hclk-00363-00090610-00090871 time between one time period and another xGyVLe6hclk-00364-00090872-00091119 and based on internationally accepted xGyVLe6hclk-00365-00091120-00091360 criteria by they i use the n you can say xGyVLe6hclk-00366-00091361-00091632 whether the species is declining are not xGyVLe6hclk-00367-00091633-00091824 err and then you can assign a threat xGyVLe6hclk-00368-00091825-00091978 category if that's to say it so this is xGyVLe6hclk-00369-00091979-00092226 the kind of information directly citizen xGyVLe6hclk-00370-00092227-00092415 scientists can feed into this process xGyVLe6hclk-00371-00092416-00092742 and we have an active Red List program xGyVLe6hclk-00372-00092743-00092971 in Ireland this shows you the taxonomic xGyVLe6hclk-00373-00092972-00093180 groups that have been red listed it xGyVLe6hclk-00374-00093181-00093348 shows you the percentage of the various xGyVLe6hclk-00375-00093349-00093561 thread categories as the kind of a xGyVLe6hclk-00376-00093562-00093732 general rule of thumb one third of all xGyVLe6hclk-00377-00093733-00093873 species that occur in Ireland are xGyVLe6hclk-00378-00093874-00094041 threatened with extinction it's not xGyVLe6hclk-00379-00094042-00094161 particularly nice to have to say but xGyVLe6hclk-00380-00094162-00094494 yeah it's like everywhere else and Tim xGyVLe6hclk-00381-00094495-00094607 mentioned then xGyVLe6hclk-00382-00094608-00094829 this for example is one of the xGyVLe6hclk-00383-00094830-00095015 indicators that we use in our national xGyVLe6hclk-00384-00095016-00095351 biodiversity targets and it's one of the xGyVLe6hclk-00385-00095352-00095597 a cheat AEG target so this information xGyVLe6hclk-00386-00095598-00095774 not only is it mobilized in terms of xGyVLe6hclk-00387-00095775-00095954 trying to assess conservation priorities xGyVLe6hclk-00388-00095955-00096203 it has actually also feeds into the xGyVLe6hclk-00389-00096204-00096491 setting of conservation priorities and xGyVLe6hclk-00390-00096492-00096806 targets within Ireland of course once xGyVLe6hclk-00391-00096807-00096983 you have the data mobilized once the xGyVLe6hclk-00392-00096984-00097169 data is digitized and we can avail of it xGyVLe6hclk-00393-00097170-00097370 and it's we start working the data for xGyVLe6hclk-00394-00097371-00097583 conservation the possibilities are xGyVLe6hclk-00395-00097584-00097739 actually quite endless and this is where xGyVLe6hclk-00396-00097740-00097949 the exciting bit occurs is where you can xGyVLe6hclk-00397-00097950-00098126 actually start asking questions of the xGyVLe6hclk-00398-00098127-00098347 data set I just want to give you two xGyVLe6hclk-00399-00098348-00098591 brief examples of the type of thing that xGyVLe6hclk-00400-00098592-00099038 we can do you don't have to be able to xGyVLe6hclk-00401-00099039-00099212 read the species name that's that's not xGyVLe6hclk-00402-00099213-00099395 really important but what we've done is xGyVLe6hclk-00403-00099396-00099632 that we have taken all the non marine xGyVLe6hclk-00404-00099633-00099803 mollusk the threatened to non-marine xGyVLe6hclk-00405-00099804-00099989 malice that occur in Ireland that have xGyVLe6hclk-00406-00099990-00100163 been formally that have gone through the xGyVLe6hclk-00407-00100164-00100424 formal conservation assessment the Red xGyVLe6hclk-00408-00100425-00100634 List process and the ones that are read xGyVLe6hclk-00409-00100635-00100781 are critically endangered the ones that xGyVLe6hclk-00410-00100782-00100970 are orange are endangered and the ones xGyVLe6hclk-00411-00100971-00101345 that are green are vulnerable we ask the xGyVLe6hclk-00412-00101346-00101531 simple question of the database we said xGyVLe6hclk-00413-00101532-00101870 if if it was appropriate way to get xGyVLe6hclk-00414-00101871-00102332 conservation and measures implemented xGyVLe6hclk-00415-00102333-00102557 through our protected area network what xGyVLe6hclk-00416-00102558-00102782 percentage of the threatened non-marine xGyVLe6hclk-00417-00102783-00103076 malice would occur within protected xGyVLe6hclk-00418-00103077-00103318 areas in Ireland so we did that exercise xGyVLe6hclk-00419-00103319-00103519 our we found for example with the xGyVLe6hclk-00420-00103520-00103790 critically endangered species that it xGyVLe6hclk-00421-00103791-00103976 ranged from between thirty percent of xGyVLe6hclk-00422-00103977-00104161 the population of some of the species to xGyVLe6hclk-00423-00104163-00104375 a hundred percent occurred within the xGyVLe6hclk-00424-00104376-00104635 protected area network so this is very xGyVLe6hclk-00425-00104636-00104798 useful for conservation management xGyVLe6hclk-00426-00104799-00105050 purposes if for example the majority of xGyVLe6hclk-00427-00105051-00105221 these species occurred within protected xGyVLe6hclk-00428-00105222-00105449 areas perhaps the way to deliver xGyVLe6hclk-00429-00105450-00105709 conservation management conservation xGyVLe6hclk-00430-00105710-00105872 actions for this suite of species might xGyVLe6hclk-00431-00105873-00106115 be through the protected area network I xGyVLe6hclk-00432-00106116-00106384 think this exercise showed us that the xGyVLe6hclk-00433-00106385-00106658 protected area network is only is only xGyVLe6hclk-00434-00106658-00106913 partially useful as a measure for xGyVLe6hclk-00435-00106914-00107134 actually delivering conservation action xGyVLe6hclk-00436-00107135-00107492 for threatened non-marine mollusks but xGyVLe6hclk-00437-00107493-00107654 it gives you an idea of the types of xGyVLe6hclk-00438-00107655-00107852 questions that you can start asking of xGyVLe6hclk-00439-00107853-00107969 the data set that xGyVLe6hclk-00440-00107970-00108160 our hugely relevant then to our decision xGyVLe6hclk-00441-00108161-00108524 makers and the final example I just want xGyVLe6hclk-00442-00108525-00108658 to show you then of the types of xGyVLe6hclk-00443-00108659-00108876 applications that we've we've worked on xGyVLe6hclk-00444-00108877-00109228 we've taken all the threatened xGyVLe6hclk-00445-00109229-00109406 freshwater species that occur with an xGyVLe6hclk-00446-00109407-00109673 hour with in Ireland we mobilize the xGyVLe6hclk-00447-00109674-00109900 data and we did a kind of a hot spot a xGyVLe6hclk-00448-00109901-00110125 biodiversity hotspot analysis of where xGyVLe6hclk-00449-00110126-00110432 they occur and when we did this we found xGyVLe6hclk-00450-00110433-00110669 that we can present to the government xGyVLe6hclk-00451-00110670-00111013 about a dozen key sites within Ireland xGyVLe6hclk-00452-00111014-00111250 that contained the majority of threat xGyVLe6hclk-00453-00111251-00111506 and freshwater species so that if you're xGyVLe6hclk-00454-00111507-00111674 serious and of course that's a big xGyVLe6hclk-00455-00111675-00111853 question if the government is serious xGyVLe6hclk-00456-00111854-00112075 about conserving the threatened xGyVLe6hclk-00457-00112076-00112331 freshwater species we can say to them xGyVLe6hclk-00458-00112332-00112631 all you have to do is conserve and have xGyVLe6hclk-00459-00112632-00112820 proper conservation measures within xGyVLe6hclk-00460-00112821-00113059 these dozen hot spots for freshwater xGyVLe6hclk-00461-00113060-00113348 species and the other thing that I xGyVLe6hclk-00462-00113349-00113545 noticed in terms of decision-makers and xGyVLe6hclk-00463-00113546-00113740 policymakers is that they they xGyVLe6hclk-00464-00113741-00113998 absolutely love Maps so this is xGyVLe6hclk-00465-00113999-00114245 producing kind of synthesis and overview xGyVLe6hclk-00466-00114246-00114422 maps of this type is the one thing that xGyVLe6hclk-00467-00114423-00114647 does actually get them to sit up and xGyVLe6hclk-00468-00114648-00114952 take notice and we find that condensing xGyVLe6hclk-00469-00114953-00115204 a lot of data down into simple kind of xGyVLe6hclk-00470-00115205-00115394 maps like this tends to work very xGyVLe6hclk-00471-00115395-00115579 effectively so that's all I want to say xGyVLe6hclk-00472-00115580-00118401 thank you very much Tim so anyone anyone xGyVLe6hclk-00473-00118402-00118782 tobin chief secretary Oh Liam I was xGyVLe6hclk-00474-00118783-00118977 really interested in the firewalled xGyVLe6hclk-00475-00118978-00119223 separation that you were showing with xGyVLe6hclk-00476-00119224-00119430 the data validation could you just say a xGyVLe6hclk-00477-00119431-00119694 little bit more first about is that a xGyVLe6hclk-00478-00119695-00120027 validation all involving expert review xGyVLe6hclk-00479-00120028-00120240 or is it entirely automated or a mixture xGyVLe6hclk-00480-00120241-00120560 and secondly for the right hand side do xGyVLe6hclk-00481-00120561-00120756 they get any visibility as to which xGyVLe6hclk-00482-00120757-00120954 records have gone through the validation xGyVLe6hclk-00483-00120955-00121488 and been approved the validation is a xGyVLe6hclk-00484-00121489-00121683 combination of automated processes but xGyVLe6hclk-00485-00121683-00122046 we do have for each for each taxonomic xGyVLe6hclk-00486-00122047-00122217 group we have a national expert or xGyVLe6hclk-00487-00122218-00122475 experts that do the tends to validate xGyVLe6hclk-00488-00122476-00122619 the data so it's a combination of both xGyVLe6hclk-00489-00122620-00123288 and we the second question was do they xGyVLe6hclk-00490-00123289-00123513 get feedback really on what species have xGyVLe6hclk-00491-00123514-00123659 not been validated I have not been xGyVLe6hclk-00492-00123660-00123846 accepted what what I meant is that by xGyVLe6hclk-00493-00123847-00124061 the time the data reaches gif is there xGyVLe6hclk-00494-00124063-00124218 is there the possibility of there being xGyVLe6hclk-00495-00124219-00124440 a column in the data that says these xGyVLe6hclk-00496-00124441-00124658 ones were validated as part of the xGyVLe6hclk-00497-00124658-00124970 network and were considered to be xGyVLe6hclk-00498-00124971-00125711 scientifically good quality yeah xGyVLe6hclk-00499-00125713-00125991 actually none of the data on validated xGyVLe6hclk-00500-00125992-00126185 data comes to Judith the firewall yeah xGyVLe6hclk-00501-00126186-00126657 so we we try to make sure that that it's xGyVLe6hclk-00502-00126658-00126915 it's assessed before it comes into our xGyVLe6hclk-00503-00126916-00127475 database yeah yes the question here xGyVLe6hclk-00504-00127476-00127779 thank you patricia kala from mexico and xGyVLe6hclk-00505-00127780-00127965 thank you very muchly and it's very xGyVLe6hclk-00506-00127966-00128355 interesting but the evaluation of a xGyVLe6hclk-00507-00128356-00128658 species in the Red List requires a lot xGyVLe6hclk-00508-00128658-00129018 of information about abundances it is xGyVLe6hclk-00509-00129019-00129311 not so easy I mean the maps are a good xGyVLe6hclk-00510-00129313-00129582 start for knowing the extent of the xGyVLe6hclk-00511-00129583-00129864 distribution but you have been doing xGyVLe6hclk-00512-00129865-00130133 some adjustments to the database to keep xGyVLe6hclk-00513-00130134-00130383 all this information and times are or xGyVLe6hclk-00514-00130383-00130834 monitoring I would be interested in that xGyVLe6hclk-00515-00130835-00131100 yeah you're right this is just a current xGyVLe6hclk-00516-00131101-00131415 state of showing where species occur we xGyVLe6hclk-00517-00131416-00131655 we run a series of monitoring programs xGyVLe6hclk-00518-00131656-00131760 which are separate xGyVLe6hclk-00519-00131761-00132345 which provide which track relative xGyVLe6hclk-00520-00132346-00132753 abundance over time but again for the xGyVLe6hclk-00521-00132754-00132981 Red List the Red List process if you xGyVLe6hclk-00522-00132982-00133212 mentioned we're able to interpret in xGyVLe6hclk-00523-00133213-00133386 terms of the interpretation of the maps xGyVLe6hclk-00524-00133387-00133590 we draw on other additional sources of xGyVLe6hclk-00525-00133591-00134193 information as well but the we have xGyVLe6hclk-00526-00134194-00134523 different tools to use population xGyVLe6hclk-00527-00134524-00135036 densities to give further further detail xGyVLe6hclk-00528-00135037-00135351 to the distributions that are mapped if xGyVLe6hclk-00529-00135352-00135740 that answers your question how's this xGyVLe6hclk-00530-00135741-00135953 information about population densities xGyVLe6hclk-00531-00135954-00136182 within the database where it's not xGyVLe6hclk-00532-00136183-00136515 linked no it's not within it it's purely xGyVLe6hclk-00533-00136516-00136725 just a mapping exercise we have to with xGyVLe6hclk-00534-00136726-00136887 other tools that we extract that xGyVLe6hclk-00535-00136888-00137286 information from okay just one more xGyVLe6hclk-00536-00137287-00137429 quick question and then we should move xGyVLe6hclk-00537-00137430-00137748 on thanks Christopher zone Natural xGyVLe6hclk-00538-00137749-00138003 History Museum Berlin Germany following xGyVLe6hclk-00539-00138004-00138233 from Donald questions on the non xGyVLe6hclk-00540-00138234-00138657 automated data quality and to what xGyVLe6hclk-00541-00138658-00138903 extent have you and WestEd there are you xGyVLe6hclk-00542-00138904-00139079 planning to expand I think that also xGyVLe6hclk-00543-00139080-00139269 goes back to Donald's presentation I xGyVLe6hclk-00544-00139270-00139524 believe we need all of us to look into xGyVLe6hclk-00545-00139525-00140041 this to engage communities and to also xGyVLe6hclk-00546-00140042-00140390 move forward with this data quality so xGyVLe6hclk-00547-00140391-00140586 i'd be interested and maybe we can take xGyVLe6hclk-00548-00140587-00140859 that offline bit have you you briefly xGyVLe6hclk-00549-00140860-00141048 mentioned you have experts is anything xGyVLe6hclk-00550-00141049-00141525 more it's one of the beauties about xGyVLe6hclk-00551-00141526-00141714 living in a small countries that we we xGyVLe6hclk-00552-00141715-00141858 know people and it's it's actually quite xGyVLe6hclk-00553-00141859-00142176 a subjective process yeah put it for us xGyVLe6hclk-00554-00142177-00142524 it works for the moment xNSydpxvZ5Y-00000-00000045-00001454 [Music] xNSydpxvZ5Y-00001-00001455-00001853 hello c3 xNSydpxvZ5Y-00002-00001854-00002151 welcome to the critical decentralization xNSydpxvZ5Y-00003-00002152-00002579 cluster spelled with an S not a Z xNSydpxvZ5Y-00004-00002580-00002823 decentralization because we are in xNSydpxvZ5Y-00005-00002824-00002990 Europe for those of you who were here xNSydpxvZ5Y-00006-00002991-00003206 last year you know that we were also xNSydpxvZ5Y-00007-00003207-00003450 here last year and for those of you and xNSydpxvZ5Y-00008-00003451-00003665 other clusters who had to listen to me xNSydpxvZ5Y-00009-00003667-00003786 last year Here I am again xNSydpxvZ5Y-00010-00003786-00004002 for you to listen to me my name is Diego xNSydpxvZ5Y-00011-00004003-00004209 Salazar I'm going to be the emcee for xNSydpxvZ5Y-00012-00004210-00004410 this stage we've got a lot of great xNSydpxvZ5Y-00013-00004411-00004668 content coming up we're gonna be xNSydpxvZ5Y-00014-00004669-00004892 covering everything from open hardware xNSydpxvZ5Y-00015-00004893-00005220 Foss and Asia just a bunch of really xNSydpxvZ5Y-00016-00005221-00005624 neat stuff crypto currencies this xNSydpxvZ5Y-00017-00005625-00005988 cluster is sponsored by riot and riot xNSydpxvZ5Y-00018-00005989-00006225 and mineiro oh look they're giving me a xNSydpxvZ5Y-00019-00006226-00006516 thing hmm xNSydpxvZ5Y-00020-00006517-00006744 dude you shouldn't be looking at that xNSydpxvZ5Y-00021-00006745-00006962 stuff here just kidding xNSydpxvZ5Y-00022-00006963-00007305 so for those of you who are interested xNSydpxvZ5Y-00023-00007306-00007578 in what we have to offer you can go to D xNSydpxvZ5Y-00024-00007579-00007859 central dot community yes xNSydpxvZ5Y-00025-00007861-00008156 stock community is a TLD now you can go xNSydpxvZ5Y-00026-00008158-00008349 to D Central doc community we have all xNSydpxvZ5Y-00027-00008350-00008577 sorts of resources up there for you our xNSydpxvZ5Y-00028-00008578-00008844 schedule if you we've got a thing it xNSydpxvZ5Y-00029-00008845-00009006 says schedule it's kind of hard to miss xNSydpxvZ5Y-00030-00009007-00009135 in the navigation if you click on xNSydpxvZ5Y-00031-00009136-00009285 schedule you can see everything we got xNSydpxvZ5Y-00032-00009286-00009486 going on we've got things we've got xNSydpxvZ5Y-00033-00009487-00009678 workshops we've got talks here on the xNSydpxvZ5Y-00034-00009679-00009906 stage Foss agent over there's gonna be xNSydpxvZ5Y-00035-00009907-00010064 running workshops periodically you can xNSydpxvZ5Y-00036-00010065-00010167 check in with them they've got some xNSydpxvZ5Y-00037-00010168-00010374 really cool stuff to show we're gonna xNSydpxvZ5Y-00038-00010375-00010721 take this time at the beginning of our xNSydpxvZ5Y-00039-00010722-00011203 cluster stage period I guess to xNSydpxvZ5Y-00040-00011204-00011517 introduce all of the projects that are xNSydpxvZ5Y-00041-00011518-00011805 here with us we have several of them and xNSydpxvZ5Y-00042-00011806-00011913 we'd like for you to meet them all xNSydpxvZ5Y-00043-00011914-00012069 they're gonna come up here into one by xNSydpxvZ5Y-00044-00012070-00012282 one they're gonna say who they are what xNSydpxvZ5Y-00045-00012283-00012446 they do what their mission is you know xNSydpxvZ5Y-00046-00012447-00012591 what you what you can expect from them xNSydpxvZ5Y-00047-00012592-00012824 over these next three days we hope that xNSydpxvZ5Y-00048-00012825-00012980 you guys come back and visit us if any xNSydpxvZ5Y-00049-00012981-00013175 of our talks are content interests you xNSydpxvZ5Y-00050-00013176-00013436 we've always got people over here to xNSydpxvZ5Y-00051-00013437-00013599 talk to if you have any questions about xNSydpxvZ5Y-00052-00013600-00013761 anything that you hear about the stage xNSydpxvZ5Y-00053-00013762-00013922 or anything that you want to talk about xNSydpxvZ5Y-00054-00013923-00014111 in terms of cryptocurrencies Manero xNSydpxvZ5Y-00055-00014112-00014469 we've also got coffee back there xNSydpxvZ5Y-00056-00014471-00014638 from the parallely Pulis people and xNSydpxvZ5Y-00057-00014638-00014737 they're gonna tell you all about that xNSydpxvZ5Y-00058-00014738-00015190 but you know it is perpetually 1:00 in xNSydpxvZ5Y-00059-00015191-00015400 the morning in here if you if you know xNSydpxvZ5Y-00060-00015401-00015751 there is no Sun so the coffee is it is xNSydpxvZ5Y-00061-00015752-00016318 good to to help keep you going let's see xNSydpxvZ5Y-00062-00016319-00016462 all right I've been on for two minutes xNSydpxvZ5Y-00063-00016463-00016720 and I have 15 minutes for this kind of xNSydpxvZ5Y-00064-00016721-00016897 opening introduction I I know I keep xNSydpxvZ5Y-00065-00016898-00017038 making this joke for any of you have xNSydpxvZ5Y-00066-00017039-00017185 seen me on on the stage before they xNSydpxvZ5Y-00067-00017186-00017326 always give me way too much time for xNSydpxvZ5Y-00068-00017327-00017563 this introduction so actually I'm gonna xNSydpxvZ5Y-00069-00017564-00017821 go ahead and move into the next portion xNSydpxvZ5Y-00070-00017822-00018004 which is talking about Manero I am also xNSydpxvZ5Y-00071-00018005-00018256 a part of Manero the Monaro community xNSydpxvZ5Y-00072-00018257-00018622 and while I do have a couple of xNSydpxvZ5Y-00073-00018623-00018871 presentations particularly on tomorrow xNSydpxvZ5Y-00074-00018872-00019003 I'm gonna be talking about Foss and xNSydpxvZ5Y-00075-00019004-00019189 different funding models but then the xNSydpxvZ5Y-00076-00019190-00019336 next day after that I'm gonna be giving xNSydpxvZ5Y-00077-00019337-00019495 a presentation about Manero how it works xNSydpxvZ5Y-00078-00019496-00019651 kind of the underlying stuff a xNSydpxvZ5Y-00079-00019652-00019861 blockchain where Manero fits into all of xNSydpxvZ5Y-00080-00019862-00020319 this I just wanted to let you guys know xNSydpxvZ5Y-00081-00020320-00020593 just a little bit briefly what Manero is xNSydpxvZ5Y-00082-00020594-00020833 why we are here particularly why we are xNSydpxvZ5Y-00083-00020834-00020998 here in c3 what the Monaro community xNSydpxvZ5Y-00084-00020999-00021184 believes in believe it or not this xNSydpxvZ5Y-00085-00021185-00021391 entire cluster all of the the xNSydpxvZ5Y-00086-00021392-00021784 decorations that have been put up all xNSydpxvZ5Y-00087-00021785-00021922 the people met some of the people that xNSydpxvZ5Y-00088-00021923-00022201 I've been flown out here this was all xNSydpxvZ5Y-00089-00022202-00022444 funded by the Monaro community so Manero xNSydpxvZ5Y-00090-00022445-00022558 for those of you who don't know is a xNSydpxvZ5Y-00091-00022559-00022708 cryptocurrency it's similar to Bitcoin xNSydpxvZ5Y-00092-00022709-00022927 except it's private by default and xNSydpxvZ5Y-00093-00022928-00023182 mandatory bitcoin is not Bitcoin is xNSydpxvZ5Y-00094-00023183-00023557 traceable and Manero unlike many other xNSydpxvZ5Y-00095-00023558-00023770 cryptocurrencies did not have an ICO did xNSydpxvZ5Y-00096-00023771-00023914 not have a pre mine did not have any of xNSydpxvZ5Y-00097-00023915-00024049 this stuff that a lot of these other xNSydpxvZ5Y-00098-00024050-00024391 coins have had and it's because of this xNSydpxvZ5Y-00099-00024392-00024547 lack of kind of this commercial nature xNSydpxvZ5Y-00100-00024548-00024751 that c3 is actually we're we're pretty xNSydpxvZ5Y-00101-00024752-00024958 much the only cryptocurrency that is xNSydpxvZ5Y-00102-00024959-00025270 here at c3 because we we are really xNSydpxvZ5Y-00103-00025271-00025471 definitely in that whole grassroots area xNSydpxvZ5Y-00104-00025472-00025669 you know non-commercial type thing so xNSydpxvZ5Y-00105-00025670-00025882 whenever we need to fund something like xNSydpxvZ5Y-00106-00025883-00026145 all of this that you see here we have a xNSydpxvZ5Y-00107-00026147-00026413 crowdfunding platform of our own similar xNSydpxvZ5Y-00108-00026414-00026569 to Kickstarter I guess you know what's xNSydpxvZ5Y-00109-00026570-00026710 called the CCS the community craft xNSydpxvZ5Y-00110-00026711-00027142 funding system and basically the riot xNSydpxvZ5Y-00111-00027143-00027343 guys they put together like we need all xNSydpxvZ5Y-00112-00027344-00027495 of this for the stage xNSydpxvZ5Y-00113-00027495-00027642 we need to pay these people we need to xNSydpxvZ5Y-00114-00027643-00027815 get these supplies and the Monaro xNSydpxvZ5Y-00115-00027816-00028064 community funded this whole thing it was xNSydpxvZ5Y-00116-00028066-00028224 it was a lot of money and everybody xNSydpxvZ5Y-00117-00028225-00028401 donated a lot of money and a lot of time xNSydpxvZ5Y-00118-00028402-00028670 and you're gonna hear more when Matias xNSydpxvZ5Y-00119-00028672-00028773 comes up here and talked about riot xNSydpxvZ5Y-00120-00028774-00029076 about just what was done to make this xNSydpxvZ5Y-00121-00029077-00029243 kind of all come together it's it's xNSydpxvZ5Y-00122-00029244-00029445 really fascinating we are thrilled to be xNSydpxvZ5Y-00123-00029445-00029682 back last year was a blast for any of xNSydpxvZ5Y-00124-00029683-00029910 you guys here last year where do you xNSydpxvZ5Y-00125-00029911-00030042 where any of you guys in this cluster xNSydpxvZ5Y-00126-00030043-00030221 last year and checking this out xNSydpxvZ5Y-00127-00030222-00030512 no none of you guys came that's okay we xNSydpxvZ5Y-00128-00030513-00030720 still love you and we hope that you'll xNSydpxvZ5Y-00129-00030720-00031011 enjoy your time here we we now have xNSydpxvZ5Y-00130-00031012-00031323 another stage to compete with so we may xNSydpxvZ5Y-00131-00031324-00031557 get a dancing clown over here something xNSydpxvZ5Y-00132-00031558-00031787 to to kind of bring people from over xNSydpxvZ5Y-00133-00031788-00032004 there they seem very engaged they seem a xNSydpxvZ5Y-00134-00032005-00032151 lot more engaged than you guys seem xNSydpxvZ5Y-00135-00032152-00032493 engaged so I think I got to step up my xNSydpxvZ5Y-00136-00032494-00032615 game over here they're looking very xNSydpxvZ5Y-00137-00032616-00032961 intensely anyway where we have we're xNSydpxvZ5Y-00138-00032962-00033114 thrilled that c3 had us back we've got a xNSydpxvZ5Y-00139-00033115-00033348 lot of new great content this year oh no xNSydpxvZ5Y-00140-00033349-00033567 he's K he's telling me go back and Diego xNSydpxvZ5Y-00141-00033568-00034098 go into the light go into the light kind xNSydpxvZ5Y-00142-00034099-00034564 of lost my train it's not over here so xNSydpxvZ5Y-00143-00034565-00034839 content okay thank you we've got a lot xNSydpxvZ5Y-00144-00034840-00034949 of great content once again please xNSydpxvZ5Y-00145-00034950-00035174 please go to the website all of our xNSydpxvZ5Y-00146-00035175-00035345 schedule is there and there's links in xNSydpxvZ5Y-00147-00035346-00035558 particular too so if you want to learn xNSydpxvZ5Y-00148-00035559-00035720 any more about anything that is on the xNSydpxvZ5Y-00149-00035721-00035856 schedule there's links that take you to xNSydpxvZ5Y-00150-00035857-00036180 kind of not just kind of excuse me xNSydpxvZ5Y-00151-00036181-00036417 I'm very jet-lagged okay I'm so tired xNSydpxvZ5Y-00152-00036418-00036732 tomorrow this is my second day here in xNSydpxvZ5Y-00153-00036733-00036861 life stick I mean for the United States xNSydpxvZ5Y-00154-00036862-00037052 tomorrow will be a much better day and I xNSydpxvZ5Y-00155-00037053-00037302 will if all of my jokes fall flat today xNSydpxvZ5Y-00156-00037303-00037514 please let's just attribute it not to my xNSydpxvZ5Y-00157-00037515-00037698 lack of a sense my my lack of a sense of xNSydpxvZ5Y-00158-00037699-00037917 humor but to the fact that I'm very very xNSydpxvZ5Y-00159-00037918-00038162 tired but I love you all so much that xNSydpxvZ5Y-00160-00038163-00038352 I'm here anyway just for you when I xNSydpxvZ5Y-00161-00038353-00038564 could be back at my hotel room sleeping xNSydpxvZ5Y-00162-00038565-00038892 or you know they have hammocks they were xNSydpxvZ5Y-00163-00038893-00039002 just telling me that they have hammocks xNSydpxvZ5Y-00164-00039003-00039162 over there where I can go sleep does xNSydpxvZ5Y-00165-00039163-00039493 anybody have a hammock can you share so xNSydpxvZ5Y-00166-00039494-00039810 I am going to go ahead and get off this xNSydpxvZ5Y-00167-00039811-00040104 stage and I'm going to invite my tias up xNSydpxvZ5Y-00168-00040105-00040317 here we're already way ahead of schedule xNSydpxvZ5Y-00169-00040318-00040555 but that's a good problem to have xNSydpxvZ5Y-00170-00040556-00040870 instead of to be behind schedule we're xNSydpxvZ5Y-00171-00040871-00041023 gonna invite my TS up here to talk about xNSydpxvZ5Y-00172-00041024-00041092 riot xNSydpxvZ5Y-00173-00041093-00041452 oh no he's doing a thing all right you xNSydpxvZ5Y-00174-00041453-00041593 know I just got a I just gotta keep xNSydpxvZ5Y-00175-00041594-00041782 doing that I'm so sorry guys I know I xNSydpxvZ5Y-00176-00041783-00041935 know you came here for quality content xNSydpxvZ5Y-00177-00041936-00042103 and instead you're getting Diego xNSydpxvZ5Y-00178-00042104-00042310 rambling about things trying to stall xNSydpxvZ5Y-00179-00042311-00042529 for time as we get a few things done xNSydpxvZ5Y-00180-00042530-00042631 they were like dang oh you're supposed xNSydpxvZ5Y-00181-00042632-00042844 to be on here for 15 minutes for the xNSydpxvZ5Y-00182-00042845-00043060 introduction for 15 minutes for Manero xNSydpxvZ5Y-00183-00043061-00043540 and guess what guys it's 507 so I've xNSydpxvZ5Y-00184-00043541-00043651 already in trouble xNSydpxvZ5Y-00185-00043652-00043887 there's not much there's not much to say xNSydpxvZ5Y-00186-00043888-00044119 about about monaro it's it's really xNSydpxvZ5Y-00187-00044120-00044280 boring xNSydpxvZ5Y-00188-00044281-00044521 you know if the areum's claim to fame is xNSydpxvZ5Y-00189-00044522-00044721 like it's worth the world computer and xNSydpxvZ5Y-00190-00044722-00044790 bitcoins like we're the first xNSydpxvZ5Y-00191-00044791-00045094 cryptocurrency and I was like yeah we xNSydpxvZ5Y-00192-00045095-00045376 just we're like Bitcoin but we're xNSydpxvZ5Y-00193-00045377-00045730 private and whenever we make new xNSydpxvZ5Y-00194-00045731-00045850 technology that comes outside xNSydpxvZ5Y-00195-00045851-00046024 oh that's cool what does it do it makes xNSydpxvZ5Y-00196-00046025-00046585 monaro more private now it's not it's xNSydpxvZ5Y-00197-00046586-00046903 it's it's like it's like plumbing you xNSydpxvZ5Y-00198-00046904-00047127 know every house needs plumbing if you xNSydpxvZ5Y-00199-00047128-00047281 don't have plumbing like you're hot xNSydpxvZ5Y-00200-00047282-00047431 you're not gonna use this house very xNSydpxvZ5Y-00201-00047432-00047632 often now you're gonna go someplace else xNSydpxvZ5Y-00202-00047633-00047740 because eventually you're gonna need xNSydpxvZ5Y-00203-00047741-00048007 plumbing but it's not it's not the cool xNSydpxvZ5Y-00204-00048008-00048163 thing about your house right when you xNSydpxvZ5Y-00205-00048164-00048327 when you when you bring new people into xNSydpxvZ5Y-00206-00048328-00048490 your house you're like look at this look xNSydpxvZ5Y-00207-00048491-00048604 at this mantelpiece look at this xNSydpxvZ5Y-00208-00048605-00048760 fireplace I got built look at my kitchen xNSydpxvZ5Y-00209-00048761-00048970 and this big refrigerator I have you xNSydpxvZ5Y-00210-00048971-00049215 don't go look at this plumbing I mean xNSydpxvZ5Y-00211-00049216-00049440 you can't you can't see it most of it xNSydpxvZ5Y-00212-00049441-00049660 but like it's there and it's exquisite xNSydpxvZ5Y-00213-00049661-00049825 right that's like what Manero is to xNSydpxvZ5Y-00214-00049826-00050046 society because we believe in privacy we xNSydpxvZ5Y-00215-00050047-00050187 believe everybody has a right to privacy xNSydpxvZ5Y-00216-00050188-00050421 and with the particular audience that xNSydpxvZ5Y-00217-00050422-00050605 comes to see three I don't think I have xNSydpxvZ5Y-00218-00050606-00050749 to do much convincing to you guys that xNSydpxvZ5Y-00219-00050750-00051031 privacy is important open source xNSydpxvZ5Y-00220-00051032-00051238 software is important right and so xNSydpxvZ5Y-00221-00051239-00051457 Minero we really lean into that but we xNSydpxvZ5Y-00222-00051458-00051619 really lean into the foundations and the xNSydpxvZ5Y-00223-00051620-00051927 basics of it and it's not it's just xNSydpxvZ5Y-00224-00051928-00052198 doesn't have this big shine which is xNSydpxvZ5Y-00225-00052199-00052341 very very unfortunate because I think xNSydpxvZ5Y-00226-00052342-00052513 personally that's something like Minero xNSydpxvZ5Y-00227-00052514-00052732 or privacy you know by default and xNSydpxvZ5Y-00228-00052733-00052951 mandatory not just in our finances but xNSydpxvZ5Y-00229-00052952-00053137 in a lot of the other areas of our lives xNSydpxvZ5Y-00230-00053138-00053359 such as you know what we put on to our xNSydpxvZ5Y-00231-00053360-00053587 computers who we let into our homes who xNSydpxvZ5Y-00232-00053588-00053785 listens to us on a day-to-day basis via xNSydpxvZ5Y-00233-00053786-00053938 the electronic devices that we carry xNSydpxvZ5Y-00234-00053939-00054094 all the time like these are all xNSydpxvZ5Y-00235-00054095-00054199 important things that people need to xNSydpxvZ5Y-00236-00054200-00054325 think about they these are all things xNSydpxvZ5Y-00237-00054326-00054525 that people need to consider and xNSydpxvZ5Y-00238-00054526-00054808 something like Manero gives people that xNSydpxvZ5Y-00239-00054809-00055149 option so once again come to my talk xNSydpxvZ5Y-00240-00055150-00055675 Manero for scrubs on day three this is xNSydpxvZ5Y-00241-00055676-00055905 day one yesterday was like day zero it's xNSydpxvZ5Y-00242-00055907-00056134 day one always kind of semi dead because xNSydpxvZ5Y-00243-00056135-00056440 people are kind of setting up day two is xNSydpxvZ5Y-00244-00056441-00056575 I kind of kind of busy xNSydpxvZ5Y-00245-00056576-00056752 last year it was day two is a lot of xNSydpxvZ5Y-00246-00056753-00056911 hustle and bustle then one's kind of art xNSydpxvZ5Y-00247-00056912-00057054 that's good alright it was kind of okay xNSydpxvZ5Y-00248-00057054-00057382 for me see three doesn't even start xNSydpxvZ5Y-00249-00057383-00057649 until I'm on stage so you know what do I xNSydpxvZ5Y-00250-00057650-00057716 know xNSydpxvZ5Y-00251-00057717-00058000 okay let's take audience questions now xNSydpxvZ5Y-00252-00058001-00058162 while we're still stalling for time xNSydpxvZ5Y-00253-00058163-00058522 who's who's out you you that you there xNSydpxvZ5Y-00254-00058523-00059137 yes yes how no no no it's it's you you xNSydpxvZ5Y-00255-00059138-00059529 want to come up on stage with me no yes xNSydpxvZ5Y-00256-00059529-00059878 okay that's that's totally fine you xNSydpxvZ5Y-00257-00059879-00060112 broke my heart just now but it's totally xNSydpxvZ5Y-00258-00060113-00060475 fun thank you for this opportunity for xNSydpxvZ5Y-00259-00060476-00060642 audience questions and now that that xNSydpxvZ5Y-00260-00060644-00061020 segment is over as soon as if we can so xNSydpxvZ5Y-00261-00061021-00061416 I think I will stop rambling at this xNSydpxvZ5Y-00262-00061417-00061876 point I think I will when there we do xNSydpxvZ5Y-00263-00061877-00062014 wait guys we do have an audience xNSydpxvZ5Y-00264-00062015-00062748 question okay xNSydpxvZ5Y-00265-00062749-00063273 ooh okay you know you know that's a good xNSydpxvZ5Y-00266-00063274-00063378 question it's not something I'm gonna xNSydpxvZ5Y-00267-00063379-00063512 cover in my talk is this lamort a little xNSydpxvZ5Y-00268-00063513-00063629 bit more advanced so I'll actually go xNSydpxvZ5Y-00269-00063630-00063723 ahead and cover it here for those who xNSydpxvZ5Y-00270-00063724-00064004 didn't hear the question he said he read xNSydpxvZ5Y-00271-00064005-00064146 the cripton no paper he's just trying to xNSydpxvZ5Y-00272-00064147-00064262 flex on all of us he's like you know I xNSydpxvZ5Y-00273-00064263-00064463 read I read like academic papers and xNSydpxvZ5Y-00274-00064464-00064706 stuff you know he's like I read the xNSydpxvZ5Y-00275-00064707-00064947 crypto note paper and my question was xNSydpxvZ5Y-00276-00064948-00065135 you know how does the privacy of xNSydpxvZ5Y-00277-00065136-00065291 something like Manero compared to the xNSydpxvZ5Y-00278-00065292-00065597 privacy of something like z cash so that xNSydpxvZ5Y-00279-00065598-00065796 sounds like something interesting to xNSydpxvZ5Y-00280-00065797-00065942 explore that'll kill a bunch of time so xNSydpxvZ5Y-00281-00065943-00066251 I'm all for it so I mean error versus Z xNSydpxvZ5Y-00282-00066252-00066410 cash we get this kind of question a lot xNSydpxvZ5Y-00283-00066411-00066587 and it's not just vs. Z cash people say xNSydpxvZ5Y-00284-00066588-00066747 well what how does the Monaro compared xNSydpxvZ5Y-00285-00066748-00066869 to something like zero coy and how does xNSydpxvZ5Y-00286-00066870-00066966 it mean Aero compared to something like xNSydpxvZ5Y-00287-00066967-00067191 verge or all these other coins that that xNSydpxvZ5Y-00288-00067192-00067382 claim privacy in various different ways xNSydpxvZ5Y-00289-00067383-00067665 so as I think many of us here know xNSydpxvZ5Y-00290-00067666-00067910 there's many ways to achieve privacy xNSydpxvZ5Y-00291-00067911-00068046 first of all preferred okay first of all xNSydpxvZ5Y-00292-00068047-00068219 let me back up all the way to to the xNSydpxvZ5Y-00293-00068220-00068405 foundation of this step zero foundation xNSydpxvZ5Y-00294-00068406-00068634 is really not enough foundation privacy xNSydpxvZ5Y-00295-00068635-00068871 is really really really hard it's really xNSydpxvZ5Y-00296-00068872-00069101 hard to get right it's really difficult xNSydpxvZ5Y-00297-00069102-00069315 to minimize all the metadata leakage xNSydpxvZ5Y-00298-00069316-00069704 it's so difficult and if you mess up if xNSydpxvZ5Y-00299-00069705-00069938 you mess up just once you can really xNSydpxvZ5Y-00300-00069939-00070087 ruin it for yourself xNSydpxvZ5Y-00301-00070088-00070422 privacy is all about revealing what you xNSydpxvZ5Y-00302-00070423-00070613 want when you want and to who you want xNSydpxvZ5Y-00303-00070614-00070728 and I will answer your question I'm not xNSydpxvZ5Y-00304-00070729-00070904 just kind of circling around cuz I don't xNSydpxvZ5Y-00305-00070905-00071115 know okay these are all very important xNSydpxvZ5Y-00306-00071116-00071316 things to think about because really xNSydpxvZ5Y-00307-00071317-00071603 what privacy is at its root is it's xNSydpxvZ5Y-00308-00071604-00071859 blocking metadata leakage it's blocking xNSydpxvZ5Y-00309-00071860-00072080 things getting out about you that you xNSydpxvZ5Y-00310-00072081-00072291 don't want to get out right and there's xNSydpxvZ5Y-00311-00072292-00072500 various ways that people do this some xNSydpxvZ5Y-00312-00072501-00072821 people in terms of crypto currencies xNSydpxvZ5Y-00313-00072822-00073091 they try to do this kind of in an opt-in xNSydpxvZ5Y-00314-00073092-00073365 method where most transactions are xNSydpxvZ5Y-00315-00073366-00073610 private and you can kind of opt into you xNSydpxvZ5Y-00316-00073611-00073832 can turn on the privacy technologies xNSydpxvZ5Y-00317-00073833-00074036 some they say you know what we don't xNSydpxvZ5Y-00318-00074037-00074223 want to mess with this at all and like xNSydpxvZ5Y-00319-00074224-00074432 Bitcoin they they they kind of try to do xNSydpxvZ5Y-00320-00074433-00074606 this on a second layer on the base layer xNSydpxvZ5Y-00321-00074607-00074766 of Bitcoin there's no privacy but if you xNSydpxvZ5Y-00322-00074767-00074957 jump up to something like lightning you xNSydpxvZ5Y-00323-00074958-00075137 know you can kind of go into that or if xNSydpxvZ5Y-00324-00075138-00075335 you use kind of a third-party tool like xNSydpxvZ5Y-00325-00075336-00075569 wasabi or Samurai wallet or or some sort xNSydpxvZ5Y-00326-00075570-00075723 of mixing service then you can kind of xNSydpxvZ5Y-00327-00075724-00075948 try to increase your privacy that way xNSydpxvZ5Y-00328-00075949-00076116 whereas something like Manero xNSydpxvZ5Y-00329-00076117-00076323 says no no no privacy doesn't work that xNSydpxvZ5Y-00330-00076324-00076761 way it's all or if we view of it we view xNSydpxvZ5Y-00331-00076762-00076953 it much more extremely it's kind of all xNSydpxvZ5Y-00332-00076954-00077121 or nothing and the way that I like to xNSydpxvZ5Y-00333-00077122-00077391 talk about it is it's similar to driving xNSydpxvZ5Y-00334-00077392-00077772 okay you could be the best driver in the xNSydpxvZ5Y-00335-00077773-00078050 world you could be the safest driver in xNSydpxvZ5Y-00336-00078051-00078332 the world but it's not you that you have xNSydpxvZ5Y-00337-00078333-00078476 to worry about when you get behind the xNSydpxvZ5Y-00338-00078477-00078632 wheel and you start driving around your xNSydpxvZ5Y-00339-00078633-00078818 city it's not you you have to worry xNSydpxvZ5Y-00340-00078819-00079068 about it's everybody else because even xNSydpxvZ5Y-00341-00079069-00079323 if you're the safest driver it all it xNSydpxvZ5Y-00342-00079324-00079506 takes is one drunk driver to hit you and xNSydpxvZ5Y-00343-00079507-00080036 kill you right privacy is the same way xNSydpxvZ5Y-00344-00080037-00080243 privacy graphs you know being able to xNSydpxvZ5Y-00345-00080244-00080432 kind of link people to each other or xNSydpxvZ5Y-00346-00080433-00080604 link transactions to each other you xNSydpxvZ5Y-00347-00080605-00080799 could do everything perfectly take all xNSydpxvZ5Y-00348-00080800-00081162 the right steps and like if you're xNSydpxvZ5Y-00349-00081163-00081303 trying to remain private in Bitcoin xNSydpxvZ5Y-00350-00081304-00081465 there is a lot of steps to remaining xNSydpxvZ5Y-00351-00081466-00081606 private and Bitcoin like you can't reuse xNSydpxvZ5Y-00352-00081607-00081885 it dresses you can't consolidate your xNSydpxvZ5Y-00353-00081886-00082088 transactions after the fact louder the xNSydpxvZ5Y-00354-00082089-00082212 list goes on and on you can look those xNSydpxvZ5Y-00355-00082213-00082392 up for yourself you can do all of this xNSydpxvZ5Y-00356-00082393-00082643 100% perfectly but then if you transact xNSydpxvZ5Y-00357-00082644-00082899 with somebody that is not doing this xNSydpxvZ5Y-00358-00082900-00083043 well this is the drunk driver that's xNSydpxvZ5Y-00359-00083044-00083229 going to hit you this is the person that xNSydpxvZ5Y-00360-00083230-00083559 you're not you're not aware of that is xNSydpxvZ5Y-00361-00083560-00083754 not doing things well and now this xNSydpxvZ5Y-00362-00083755-00083898 person is linked to you and all that xNSydpxvZ5Y-00363-00083899-00084042 work that you've done will be for xNSydpxvZ5Y-00364-00084043-00084075 nothing xNSydpxvZ5Y-00365-00084076-00084249 so Manero kind of goes about this in the xNSydpxvZ5Y-00366-00084250-00084405 way that we say what if we made all the xNSydpxvZ5Y-00367-00084406-00084630 drivers safe by default I wish that was xNSydpxvZ5Y-00368-00084631-00084776 a thing in real life where we can make a xNSydpxvZ5Y-00369-00084777-00084942 whole drivers drive sanely by default xNSydpxvZ5Y-00370-00084943-00085104 but that doesn't work that way but we xNSydpxvZ5Y-00371-00085105-00085236 can kind of enforce out on a protocol xNSydpxvZ5Y-00372-00085237-00085392 level with Manero where we say let's xNSydpxvZ5Y-00373-00085393-00085682 make sure that everybody uses a baseline xNSydpxvZ5Y-00374-00085683-00086055 a sane base level of privacy so xNSydpxvZ5Y-00375-00086056-00086279 everybody is covered in this way xNSydpxvZ5Y-00376-00086280-00086480 so kind of when we're looking towards xNSydpxvZ5Y-00377-00086481-00086736 e-cash first of all they have opt-in xNSydpxvZ5Y-00378-00086737-00087009 privacy so not many people use it but it xNSydpxvZ5Y-00379-00087010-00087251 is theoretically more robust so now xNSydpxvZ5Y-00380-00087252-00087363 we're going to kind of talk about zero xNSydpxvZ5Y-00381-00087364-00087612 knowledge z:k Starks versus something xNSydpxvZ5Y-00382-00087613-00087897 like ring CT which Manero uses so for xNSydpxvZ5Y-00383-00087898-00088187 those of you who don't know Z cache uses xNSydpxvZ5Y-00384-00088188-00088331 something called ZK snarks which is a xNSydpxvZ5Y-00385-00088332-00088473 cool little thing that they develop for xNSydpxvZ5Y-00386-00088474-00088650 themselves they it's basically xNSydpxvZ5Y-00387-00088651-00088994 mathematical magic where they say we can xNSydpxvZ5Y-00388-00088995-00089239 know nothing about xNSydpxvZ5Y-00389-00089240-00089486 particular something and prove it is xNSydpxvZ5Y-00390-00089487-00089711 still something Google has been doing xNSydpxvZ5Y-00391-00089712-00089867 stuff with ZK with zero knowledge zero xNSydpxvZ5Y-00392-00089868-00089963 knowledge is not just for crypto xNSydpxvZ5Y-00393-00089964-00090125 currencies like what something Google xNSydpxvZ5Y-00394-00090126-00090293 has been working on which I just heard xNSydpxvZ5Y-00395-00090294-00090437 about which i think is just mind-blowing xNSydpxvZ5Y-00396-00090438-00090794 where you can send them a search but xNSydpxvZ5Y-00397-00090795-00090956 it's completely encrypted and they get xNSydpxvZ5Y-00398-00090957-00091139 that search and they don't know what you xNSydpxvZ5Y-00399-00091140-00091316 sent them because it's encrypted but xNSydpxvZ5Y-00400-00091317-00091499 it's encrypted in zero knowledge and xNSydpxvZ5Y-00401-00091500-00091691 then they are able to get the results xNSydpxvZ5Y-00402-00091692-00092066 and send those results back to you and xNSydpxvZ5Y-00403-00092067-00092267 they still have no idea what you sent xNSydpxvZ5Y-00404-00092268-00092486 them it was all done in zero note so xNSydpxvZ5Y-00405-00092487-00092621 then you get that it's absolutely insane xNSydpxvZ5Y-00406-00092622-00092828 it's math magic basically it's kind of xNSydpxvZ5Y-00407-00092829-00092966 wizardry I don't even think it's real xNSydpxvZ5Y-00408-00092967-00093209 but it's this idea that you can prove xNSydpxvZ5Y-00409-00093210-00093341 something about something without xNSydpxvZ5Y-00410-00093342-00093479 knowing anything about it xNSydpxvZ5Y-00411-00093480-00093749 so Z cache has this thing where they can xNSydpxvZ5Y-00412-00093750-00094049 prove in very mathematical cool xNSydpxvZ5Y-00413-00094050-00094288 mathematically clever and cool ways xNSydpxvZ5Y-00414-00094289-00094502 certain things about a transaction to xNSydpxvZ5Y-00415-00094503-00094871 show that Manero Manero sorry coin is xNSydpxvZ5Y-00416-00094872-00095065 not created or destroyed to show that xNSydpxvZ5Y-00417-00095066-00095270 everything adds up and everything is xNSydpxvZ5Y-00418-00095271-00095444 kosher and it's not breaking anything of xNSydpxvZ5Y-00419-00095445-00095696 the protocol very nifty very very cool xNSydpxvZ5Y-00420-00095697-00095924 ok but the issue that a lot of the xNSydpxvZ5Y-00421-00095925-00096146 Monaro people take with Z cache is that xNSydpxvZ5Y-00422-00096147-00096343 it requires a trusted setup it requires xNSydpxvZ5Y-00423-00096344-00096602 in order to get this magic to work you xNSydpxvZ5Y-00424-00096603-00096845 have to have a wizard at some point wave xNSydpxvZ5Y-00425-00096846-00097034 a magic wand and say a magic thing and xNSydpxvZ5Y-00426-00097035-00097238 if this wizard waving this wand and xNSydpxvZ5Y-00427-00097239-00097454 saying this thing remembers what he said xNSydpxvZ5Y-00428-00097455-00097646 and how he said it then all of a sudden xNSydpxvZ5Y-00429-00097647-00097772 he's going to be able to do some pretty xNSydpxvZ5Y-00430-00097773-00097937 and crazy things he's going to be able xNSydpxvZ5Y-00431-00097938-00098219 to print infinite Z cash and he would be xNSydpxvZ5Y-00432-00098220-00098396 able to theoretically crack some of the xNSydpxvZ5Y-00433-00098397-00098600 privacy of Z cash maybe not all of it xNSydpxvZ5Y-00434-00098601-00098774 but the privacy would weaken because of xNSydpxvZ5Y-00435-00098775-00098927 certain attacks that he could do in this xNSydpxvZ5Y-00436-00098928-00099209 case this wizard is not a funny image xNSydpxvZ5Y-00437-00099210-00099491 this wizard is a certain number in order xNSydpxvZ5Y-00438-00099492-00099740 to set up this whole Z cash thing the xNSydpxvZ5Y-00439-00099741-00099893 trustus setup requires a number and they xNSydpxvZ5Y-00440-00099894-00100154 try to mitigate this risk by say ok what xNSydpxvZ5Y-00441-00100155-00100331 if we have five different people xNSydpxvZ5Y-00442-00100332-00100532 generate the number so that way no one xNSydpxvZ5Y-00443-00100533-00100712 person can know that number at any given xNSydpxvZ5Y-00444-00100713-00101018 time what if you know and if even one of xNSydpxvZ5Y-00445-00101019-00101354 these five people is honest and destroys xNSydpxvZ5Y-00446-00101355-00101387 it xNSydpxvZ5Y-00447-00101388-00101570 destroys this portion of the number then xNSydpxvZ5Y-00448-00101571-00101759 we never can assemble the full number xNSydpxvZ5Y-00449-00101760-00101954 again and nobody would ever know and you xNSydpxvZ5Y-00450-00101955-00102056 know they're trying to make that even xNSydpxvZ5Y-00451-00102057-00102212 more robust by saying what if it's not xNSydpxvZ5Y-00452-00102213-00102442 five people what if it's 70 people xNSydpxvZ5Y-00453-00102443-00102616 still just one person needs to be honest xNSydpxvZ5Y-00454-00102617-00102880 so z cash is very very strong in terms xNSydpxvZ5Y-00455-00102881-00103156 of trusted privacy there is some element xNSydpxvZ5Y-00456-00103157-00103468 of trust at some point there is some xNSydpxvZ5Y-00457-00103469-00103594 element of trust required for this xNSydpxvZ5Y-00458-00103595-00103855 privacy to work Manero xNSydpxvZ5Y-00459-00103856-00104184 conversely uses ring CT and we have a xNSydpxvZ5Y-00460-00104185-00104317 wonderful wonderful book called xNSydpxvZ5Y-00461-00104318-00104494 mastering monaro which you can look at xNSydpxvZ5Y-00462-00104495-00104658 it there's a free PDF that you could xNSydpxvZ5Y-00463-00104659-00104872 download there's also physical copies if xNSydpxvZ5Y-00464-00104873-00105079 you prefer those to order mastering xNSydpxvZ5Y-00465-00105080-00105301 Manero calm and it takes you through a xNSydpxvZ5Y-00466-00105302-00105448 lot of the technologies that Manero use xNSydpxvZ5Y-00467-00105449-00105613 and a lot of great analogies and how it xNSydpxvZ5Y-00468-00105614-00105778 works so monaro doesn't just use ring CT xNSydpxvZ5Y-00469-00105779-00105922 he uses something called stealth xNSydpxvZ5Y-00470-00105923-00106099 addresses and ring CT and ring xNSydpxvZ5Y-00471-00106100-00106231 signatures and all those kind of work xNSydpxvZ5Y-00472-00106232-00106450 together to create a what we consider xNSydpxvZ5Y-00473-00106451-00106669 and what we hope is a robust way of xNSydpxvZ5Y-00474-00106670-00107116 doing privacy I kind of lost my train of xNSydpxvZ5Y-00475-00107117-00107278 thought sorry to z'castle doesn't come xNSydpxvZ5Y-00476-00107279-00107389 time and there are some one thing I was xNSydpxvZ5Y-00477-00107390-00107854 gonna okay so Manero does things in in xNSydpxvZ5Y-00478-00107855-00108204 this way different from sea cash in that xNSydpxvZ5Y-00479-00108205-00108439 venero it's a it's a common xNSydpxvZ5Y-00480-00108440-00108565 misconception that Manero doesn't use xNSydpxvZ5Y-00481-00108566-00108751 any sort of zero knowledge remember zero xNSydpxvZ5Y-00482-00108752-00108871 knowledge proof just mean that you can xNSydpxvZ5Y-00483-00108872-00108988 prove a certain thing about a statement xNSydpxvZ5Y-00484-00108989-00109141 without revealing something so as an xNSydpxvZ5Y-00485-00109142-00109315 example a ring signature is a form of 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xOq9QqYqsn0-00004-00001151-00001407 on everybody's part it doesn't help past xOq9QqYqsn0-00005-00001408-00002302 the smell test are you listening xOq9QqYqsn0-00006-00002303-00002479 and the bottom line is you know xOq9QqYqsn0-00007-00002480-00002734 sometimes you your personal beliefs have xOq9QqYqsn0-00008-00002735-00002910 to be trumped by what's good for the xOq9QqYqsn0-00009-00002911-00003118 greater good for those around you for xOq9QqYqsn0-00010-00003119-00003238 your peers xOq9QqYqsn0-00011-00003239-00003406 if i were in the same situation and i xOq9QqYqsn0-00012-00003407-00003543 didn't want to take the vaccine because xOq9QqYqsn0-00013-00003544-00003719 i may be worried about what it may do to xOq9QqYqsn0-00014-00003720-00003951 my body but everybody else is doing it xOq9QqYqsn0-00015-00003952-00004103 because that's the right thing to do and xOq9QqYqsn0-00016-00004104-00004263 because the country demands it quite xOq9QqYqsn0-00017-00004264-00004447 frankly you have two choices get xOq9QqYqsn0-00018-00004448-00004638 vaccinated or don't go play i have xOq9QqYqsn0-00019-00004639-00004822 defended him over the years many many xOq9QqYqsn0-00020-00004823-00005118 times and i thought some of the response xOq9QqYqsn0-00021-00005119-00005327 from the public was kind of i called it xOq9QqYqsn0-00022-00005328-00005495 slavic phobia i don't know if i would go xOq9QqYqsn0-00023-00005496-00005767 that far but uh definitely was not a xOq9QqYqsn0-00024-00005768-00005951 fair so you just suck it up for the team xOq9QqYqsn0-00025-00005952-00006206 for the greater good and aussies of all xOq9QqYqsn0-00026-00006207-00006439 people this happens in australia where xOq9QqYqsn0-00027-00006440-00006591 they have been in the biggest lockdown xOq9QqYqsn0-00028-00006592-00006767 country melbourne the biggest lockdown xOq9QqYqsn0-00029-00006768-00006951 city in the world and this is what you xOq9QqYqsn0-00030-00006952-00007110 deal with i want to be talking about xOq9QqYqsn0-00031-00007111-00007375 tennis not about this it's just really a xOq9QqYqsn0-00032-00007376-00007559 shame and i don't think aussies will xOq9QqYqsn0-00033-00007559-00007719 take kindly to it because they sucked it xOq9QqYqsn0-00034-00007720-00007934 up for a year and a half now well you xOq9QqYqsn0-00035-00007936-00008199 know i'm not him um xOq9QqYqsn0-00036-00008200-00008374 the best thing for novak to do i think xOq9QqYqsn0-00037-00008375-00008527 would be to just say you know what i xOq9QqYqsn0-00038-00008528-00008695 there are too many mistakes this does xOq9QqYqsn0-00039-00008696-00008846 this is not okay i would be the only xOq9QqYqsn0-00040-00008847-00009039 unvaccinated player as i understand it xOq9QqYqsn0-00041-00009040-00009214 to play in the australian open i think xOq9QqYqsn0-00042-00009215-00009383 everybody that has not been vaccinated xOq9QqYqsn0-00043-00009384-00009542 has been sent back xOq9QqYqsn0-00044-00009543-00009687 and the right thing to do is just to go xOq9QqYqsn0-00045-00009688-00009831 home and say you know what if you pull a xOq9QqYqsn0-00046-00009832-00010006 hamstring you don't get to play you xOq9QqYqsn0-00047-00010007-00010271 don't you don't make a worldwide uproar xOq9QqYqsn0-00048-00010272-00010527 about that and uh it's just the right xOq9QqYqsn0-00049-00010528-00010663 thing to do but i don't think he will do xOq9QqYqsn0-00050-00010664-00010831 that because he wants that 21st title xOq9QqYqsn0-00051-00010832-00010967 and the parents have not been helping xOq9QqYqsn0-00052-00010968-00011119 with their statements and i'm i'm not xOq9QqYqsn0-00053-00011120-00011278 they go back for what his parents are xOq9QqYqsn0-00054-00011279-00011503 saying certainly but they do they have xOq9QqYqsn0-00055-00011504-00011727 stoked the fires and and and serbian xOq9QqYqsn0-00056-00011728-00011983 fans get very emotional anyway we've had xOq9QqYqsn0-00057-00011984-00012183 issues with them before and melbourne xOq9QqYqsn0-00058-00012184-00012423 and sydney in the years passed and this xOq9QqYqsn0-00059-00012424-00012663 is going to be if he plays xOq9QqYqsn0-00060-00012664-00012902 there's going to be a problem and uh xOq9QqYqsn0-00061-00012903-00013086 you sometimes you just need to again do xOq9QqYqsn0-00062-00013087-00013311 the right thing and and calm things down xOq9QqYqsn0-00063-00013312-00013511 rather than making them worse and right xOq9QqYqsn0-00064-00013512-00013727 now novak is very divisive xOq9QqYqsn0-00065-00013728-00013999 look at the serbian fans serbian people xOq9QqYqsn0-00066-00014000-00014230 i'm sure they're like 95 in favor of xOq9QqYqsn0-00067-00014231-00014415 novak but the rest of the world is more xOq9QqYqsn0-00068-00014416-00014727 like 95 the other way and so it's just xOq9QqYqsn0-00069-00014728-00014943 so divisive and there is no clear way xOq9QqYqsn0-00070-00014944-00015183 out of it the best thing to happen again xOq9QqYqsn0-00071-00015184-00015407 would be for novak to go home xOq9QqYqsn0-00072-00015408-00015647 uh but i don't think he will do that and xOq9QqYqsn0-00073-00015647-00015871 um you know there's just a lot of people xOq9QqYqsn0-00074-00015872-00016022 have a lot of egg on their faces there xOq9QqYqsn0-00075-00016023-00016263 have just been so many mistakes made but xOq9QqYqsn0-00076-00016263-00016447 all in all for me the biggest mistake xOq9QqYqsn0-00077-00016448-00016639 perhaps was that novak did that photo xOq9QqYqsn0-00078-00016640-00016830 shoot after he knew he was positive it xOq9QqYqsn0-00079-00016831-00016983 just doesn't make sense have they tested xOq9QqYqsn0-00080-00016984-00017127 him for antibodies does he have those xOq9QqYqsn0-00081-00017128-00017327 antibodies maybe he had kobe i don't xOq9QqYqsn0-00082-00017328-00017486 know i've even heard that it was maybe xOq9QqYqsn0-00083-00017487-00017703 december or maybe november when he xOq9QqYqsn0-00084-00017704-00017886 tested positive there's so many xOq9QqYqsn0-00085-00017887-00018079 different stories out there so it's hard xOq9QqYqsn0-00086-00018080-00018383 to know the facts but for him to do that xOq9QqYqsn0-00087-00018384-00018486 photo shoot because he didn't want to xOq9QqYqsn0-00088-00018487-00018719 disappoint somebody are you kidding me i xOq9QqYqsn0-00089-00018720-00018871 might be him but that he did test xOq9QqYqsn0-00090-00018872-00019014 positive but he still doesn't have the xOq9QqYqsn0-00091-00019015-00019191 antibodies right there's different viral xOq9QqYqsn0-00092-00019192-00019447 loads it can go up to like 2500 i think xOq9QqYqsn0-00093-00019448-00019607 and anything below a thousand is xOq9QqYqsn0-00094-00019608-00019799 questionable so i would just test test xOq9QqYqsn0-00095-00019800-00019991 this blood and see where where the viral xOq9QqYqsn0-00096-00019992-00020191 road is what are the antibodies if xOq9QqYqsn0-00097-00020192-00020358 they're there and and then go from there 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everywhere and the jackster he out in xQJPJNl8ZfY-00011-00016095-00016366 the car xQJPJNl8ZfY-00012-00016368-00017367 yeah he's there xQJPJNl8ZfY-00013-00017368-00018283 and the relics xQJPJNl8ZfY-00014-00018284-00019414 is xQJPJNl8ZfY-00015-00019415-00020030 that's one piece of good news good news xQJPJNl8ZfY-00016-00020031-00020350 dead you got any notion of the [__] you xQJPJNl8ZfY-00017-00020351-00020535 pulled me into xQJPJNl8ZfY-00018-00020536-00020975 you off the [__] emperor his majesty xQJPJNl8ZfY-00019-00020976-00021175 anyone with so much as a piggy toe xQJPJNl8ZfY-00020-00021176-00022022 dipped in this mess is as good as dead xQJPJNl8ZfY-00021-00022023-00022303 you're the one who got it let's start xQJPJNl8ZfY-00022-00022304-00022407 with your prep work xQJPJNl8ZfY-00023-00022408-00022830 you had no idea xQJPJNl8ZfY-00024-00022831-00022999 i don't have access to his personal xQJPJNl8ZfY-00025-00023000-00023199 [__] schedule and besides xQJPJNl8ZfY-00026-00023200-00023494 nobody asks you to kill the old man that xQJPJNl8ZfY-00027-00023495-00023575 wasn't xQJPJNl8ZfY-00028-00023576-00023927 us no [__] tell that to the soccer xQJPJNl8ZfY-00029-00023928-00024727 ninjas they send out to you xQJPJNl8ZfY-00030-00024728-00025039 all right settle down gotta be tactical xQJPJNl8ZfY-00031-00025040-00025399 about this xQJPJNl8ZfY-00032-00025400-00025799 new place no identity but first xQJPJNl8ZfY-00033-00025800-00026183 your face got blood all over it xQJPJNl8ZfY-00034-00026183-00026470 bathrooms there go get yourself cleaned xQJPJNl8ZfY-00035-00026472-00028083 up xQJPJNl8ZfY-00036-00028083-00029483 nice xQJPJNl8ZfY-00037-00029483-00031462 okay xQJPJNl8ZfY-00038-00031463-00032031 oh chokers yeah xQJPJNl8ZfY-00039-00032032-00033135 they land xQJPJNl8ZfY-00040-00033136-00033439 remember our first combo seems i've xQJPJNl8ZfY-00041-00033440-00033527 chosen the clown xQJPJNl8ZfY-00042-00033528-00034615 kill no blaze of glory for me xQJPJNl8ZfY-00044-00037884-00038695 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off the deep xQJPJNl8ZfY-00097-00073136-00073415 end that's coming from a chair jock xQJPJNl8ZfY-00099-00077083-00077255 foreign xQJPJNl8ZfY-00100-00077256-00079882 leave a little for me xQJPJNl8ZfY-00101-00079883-00082167 uh xQJPJNl8ZfY-00102-00082168-00083615 spinning we're on our way xQJPJNl8ZfY-00103-00083616-00083775 this was never about corporate xQJPJNl8ZfY-00104-00083776-00084006 colonialism this was about your groupie xQJPJNl8ZfY-00105-00084007-00084159 output wasn't it xQJPJNl8ZfY-00106-00084160-00084471 nate you wouldn't understand rogue are xQJPJNl8ZfY-00107-00084472-00084535 you xQJPJNl8ZfY-00108-00084536-00084711 [__] minutes chopper's not going to xQJPJNl8ZfY-00109-00084712-00085247 wait one sec longer xQJPJNl8ZfY-00111-00088283-00089682 me xQJPJNl8ZfY-00112-00089683-00092511 uh xQJPJNl8ZfY-00113-00092512-00092799 right just wonder if we know anyone who xQJPJNl8ZfY-00114-00092800-00092959 could switch the subnet protocol xQJPJNl8ZfY-00115-00092960-00093271 hilarious you gonna help or not xQJPJNl8ZfY-00116-00093272-00093518 do spider spin webs this time we caught xQJPJNl8ZfY-00117-00093519-00094647 some flies xQJPJNl8ZfY-00118-00094648-00094887 ongoing after an unidentified terrorist xQJPJNl8ZfY-00119-00094888-00094991 organization xQJPJNl8ZfY-00120-00094992-00095199 released a manifesto threatening xQJPJNl8ZfY-00121-00095200-00095318 violence xQJPJNl8ZfY-00122-00095319-00095494 the terrorists stating their desire to xQJPJNl8ZfY-00123-00095495-00095623 quote unquote xQJPJNl8ZfY-00124-00095624-00095815 topple a monument to corporate xQJPJNl8ZfY-00125-00095816-00095982 colonialism xQJPJNl8ZfY-00126-00095983-00096287 night city mayor emboli has issued a xQJPJNl8ZfY-00127-00096288-00096462 statement declaring that he will xQJPJNl8ZfY-00128-00096463-00096718 bring the full force of the law to bear xQJPJNl8ZfY-00129-00096719-00097015 in response to any act of terrorism xQJPJNl8ZfY-00130-00097016-00097359 going now to our reporter on the scene xQJPJNl8ZfY-00131-00097360-00097518 hopefully he can shed some light on the xQJPJNl8ZfY-00132-00097519-00097735 situation as events xQJPJNl8ZfY-00133-00097736-00098143 now get out of there xQJPJNl8ZfY-00134-00098144-00099345 they're moving up hit the roof quick xQJPJNl8ZfY-00135-00099346-00099482 [Music] xQJPJNl8ZfY-00136-00099483-00100918 long xQJPJNl8ZfY-00137-00100919-00101103 sealed but it won't hold for long run xQJPJNl8ZfY-00138-00101104-00101806 johnny like the wind xQJPJNl8ZfY-00139-00101807-00102742 i dab left xQJPJNl8ZfY-00140-00102743-00103142 blonde xQJPJNl8ZfY-00141-00103143-00103599 smasher told you johnny boy xQJPJNl8ZfY-00142-00103600-00106119 told you it's johnny xQJPJNl8ZfY-00143-00106120-00106483 [Music] xQJPJNl8ZfY-00144-00106483-00107015 ah xQJPJNl8ZfY-00145-00107016-00107758 ah xQJPJNl8ZfY-00146-00107759-00108134 let us try once more you associates xQJPJNl8ZfY-00147-00108135-00108366 who are they how does your acquired xQJPJNl8ZfY-00148-00108367-00108823 fissile material xQJPJNl8ZfY-00149-00108824-00109086 gonna give good cop over there a chance xQJPJNl8ZfY-00150-00109088-00109247 to say something xQJPJNl8ZfY-00151-00109248-00109919 come on xQJPJNl8ZfY-00152-00109920-00110278 organization do you belong to xQJPJNl8ZfY-00153-00110279-00113166 how did you acquire fissile material xQJPJNl8ZfY-00154-00113167-00113671 i hot damn xQJPJNl8ZfY-00155-00113672-00114086 done and gone xQJPJNl8ZfY-00156-00114088-00114783 my husband died in that tower xQJPJNl8ZfY-00157-00114783-00115095 but there are fates worse than death xQJPJNl8ZfY-00158-00115096-00115654 uh xQJPJNl8ZfY-00160-00119083-00119333 my xQJPJNl8ZfY-00161-00119333-00120483 [Music] xQJPJNl8ZfY-00162-00120483-00121883 foreign xQJPJNl8ZfY-00163-00121883-00123283 ugh xQJPJNl8ZfY-00164-00123283-00124031 one xQJPJNl8ZfY-00165-00124032-00126166 no you're not this number xQJPJNl8ZfY-00166-00126167-00127823 and you you who are you xQJPJNl8ZfY-00167-00127824-00128847 maybe it's xQJPJNl8ZfY-00168-00128848-00131683 not yours xQJPJNl8ZfY-00169-00131684-00133083 man xQJPJNl8ZfY-00170-00133084-00134483 um xQJPJNl8ZfY-00171-00134484-00135746 h xQJPJNl8ZfY-00172-00135747-00137283 [Laughter] xQJPJNl8ZfY-00173-00137284-00137454 that xQJPJNl8ZfY-00174-00137455-00137807 heavier than he looks one xQJPJNl8ZfY-00175-00137808-00138127 now listen dawg i have done exactly what xQJPJNl8ZfY-00176-00138128-00138239 you asked xQJPJNl8ZfY-00177-00138240-00138683 so lest you and me figure this xQJPJNl8ZfY-00178-00138684-00140083 oh xQJPJNl8ZfY-00179-00140084-00142454 foreign xQJPJNl8ZfY-00180-00142455-00144283 i do remember xQJPJNl8ZfY-00181-00144284-00145683 coco xQJPJNl8ZfY-00182-00145684-00147102 huh xQJPJNl8ZfY-00184-00151208-00154083 that's it xQJPJNl8ZfY-00185-00154084-00154718 foreign xQJPJNl8ZfY-00186-00154719-00155483 [Music] xQJPJNl8ZfY-00187-00155484-00156883 is xQJPJNl8ZfY-00188-00156884-00158283 hey xQJPJNl8ZfY-00189-00158284-00159687 my xQJPJNl8ZfY-00190-00159688-00160535 he xQJPJNl8ZfY-00191-00160536-00160999 don't you dare faint again xQJPJNl8ZfY-00192-00161000-00162519 come on your eyes xQJPJNl8ZfY-00193-00162520-00162807 we both could use medical attention do xQJPJNl8ZfY-00194-00162808-00162919 you know a repa doc xQJPJNl8ZfY-00195-00162920-00163471 whom you can trust wash xQJPJNl8ZfY-00196-00163472-00163823 i know someone xQJPJNl8ZfY-00197-00163824-00164359 we must get the ripped quickly xQJPJNl8ZfY-00198-00164360-00164743 hector will xQJPJNl8ZfY-00199-00164744-00165199 fix us up we have to get there somehow xQJPJNl8ZfY-00200-00165200-00165878 cause someone anyone xQJPJNl8ZfY-00201-00165879-00166311 all right all right xQJPJNl8ZfY-00202-00166312-00166551 greetings my scanner indicates you are xQJPJNl8ZfY-00203-00166552-00166831 outside the service area just xQJPJNl8ZfY-00204-00166832-00167223 come pick me up xQJPJNl8ZfY-00205-00167224-00167671 i need to get to misty's esoterica xQJPJNl8ZfY-00206-00167672-00168023 front of vicks of course a vehicle is on xQJPJNl8ZfY-00207-00168024-00168071 route xQJPJNl8ZfY-00208-00168072-00168541 it should arrive in less than 20 minutes xQJPJNl8ZfY-00209-00168542-00168871 [Laughter] xQJPJNl8ZfY-00210-00168872-00169087 please proceed to insert the jack below xQJPJNl8ZfY-00211-00169088-00169199 the ear xQJPJNl8ZfY-00212-00169200-00169454 though not too deep there should be xQJPJNl8ZfY-00213-00169455-00169695 auxiliary neurosockets between his lymph xQJPJNl8ZfY-00214-00169696-00169775 nodes xQJPJNl8ZfY-00215-00169776-00170166 beneath the scm muscle if i hit the vein xQJPJNl8ZfY-00216-00170167-00170287 by mistake xQJPJNl8ZfY-00217-00170288-00170638 he will die indeed as he will if you do xQJPJNl8ZfY-00218-00170639-00170854 nothing xQJPJNl8ZfY-00219-00170855-00171559 i think xQJPJNl8ZfY-00220-00171560-00171951 let's get him inside i cannot xQJPJNl8ZfY-00221-00171952-00172790 hold it xQJPJNl8ZfY-00222-00172791-00173119 i need to rest xQJPJNl8ZfY-00223-00173120-00173607 that your blood misty xQJPJNl8ZfY-00224-00173608-00174919 i missed xQJPJNl8ZfY-00225-00174920-00176483 no other way xQJPJNl8ZfY-00226-00176484-00178278 oh xQJPJNl8ZfY-00227-00178279-00180683 this move xQJPJNl8ZfY-00228-00180684-00181654 foreign xQJPJNl8ZfY-00229-00181655-00181887 slower on the men than you but looking xQJPJNl8ZfY-00230-00181888-00183483 better every day xQJPJNl8ZfY-00231-00183484-00184847 foreign xQJPJNl8ZfY-00232-00184848-00185231 my head xQJPJNl8ZfY-00233-00185232-00185759 how you feeling xQJPJNl8ZfY-00234-00185760-00186087 i don't know vic here's a ring xQJPJNl8ZfY-00235-00186088-00186407 and i'm seeing [__] these xQJPJNl8ZfY-00236-00186408-00186719 hallucinations describe them to me xQJPJNl8ZfY-00237-00186720-00187135 blinding lights it's loud xQJPJNl8ZfY-00238-00187136-00187543 i'm on stage and i almost can't breathe xQJPJNl8ZfY-00239-00187544-00187966 i'm so damn full of hatred xQJPJNl8ZfY-00240-00187967-00188295 then i let it all out into a mic and i xQJPJNl8ZfY-00241-00188296-00188543 realized it didn't help xQJPJNl8ZfY-00242-00188544-00188887 i don't feel any better xQJPJNl8ZfY-00243-00188888-00189278 and then promise not to laugh xQJPJNl8ZfY-00244-00189279-00189599 i plan a bomb in arasaka tower xQJPJNl8ZfY-00245-00189600-00190326 i the nothing there to laugh about xQJPJNl8ZfY-00246-00190327-00191150 they killed me vic never been so afraid xQJPJNl8ZfY-00247-00191151-00191583 it was too real even for a lucid dream xQJPJNl8ZfY-00248-00191584-00191883 you weren't dreaming v those were xQJPJNl8ZfY-00249-00191884-00192007 memories xQJPJNl8ZfY-00250-00192008-00192278 a personality construct on that chart xQJPJNl8ZfY-00251-00192279-00192390 dreams you had xQJPJNl8ZfY-00252-00192391-00192919 or from his past xQJPJNl8ZfY-00253-00192920-00193207 hang on i mean to say there's an actual xQJPJNl8ZfY-00254-00193208-00193438 terrorist in my head xQJPJNl8ZfY-00255-00193439-00193975 right now that's right johnny silverhand xQJPJNl8ZfY-00256-00193976-00194199 had his crowning moment about 50 years xQJPJNl8ZfY-00257-00194200-00194375 ago xQJPJNl8ZfY-00258-00194376-00194695 ahq bombing heard of it xQJPJNl8ZfY-00259-00194696-00194999 his doing people say he was buried under xQJPJNl8ZfY-00260-00195000-00195343 the rubble xQJPJNl8ZfY-00261-00195344-00196083 anyway that's not what's important right xQJPJNl8ZfY-00262-00196084-00196231 now xQJPJNl8ZfY-00263-00196232-00196550 never given me that look before vic xQJPJNl8ZfY-00264-00196551-00196999 what is it you uh xQJPJNl8ZfY-00265-00197000-00197302 don't get a lot of time left kid hi xQJPJNl8ZfY-00266-00197303-00197759 what now xQJPJNl8ZfY-00267-00197760-00198143 the biochip it's basically a bomb xQJPJNl8ZfY-00268-00198144-00198454 fuse lit already you don't have much xQJPJNl8ZfY-00269-00198455-00198543 time left xQJPJNl8ZfY-00270-00198544-00198854 much life xQJPJNl8ZfY-00271-00198855-00199166 a few weeks tops hi the silver hands xQJPJNl8ZfY-00272-00199167-00199287 construct is xQJPJNl8ZfY-00273-00199288-00199575 overriding your consciousness gradually xQJPJNl8ZfY-00274-00199576-00199807 taking over your body until xQJPJNl8ZfY-00275-00199808-00200575 one day you'll just be gone xQJPJNl8ZfY-00276-00200576-00201271 v it's important you get all this xQJPJNl8ZfY-00277-00201272-00201647 right vic if i could xQJPJNl8ZfY-00278-00201648-00202047 i would be believe me but this is xQJPJNl8ZfY-00279-00202048-00202335 it's way beyond what i know how to do xQJPJNl8ZfY-00280-00202336-00202487 you're the best of the best xQJPJNl8ZfY-00281-00202488-00203150 vic why can't you help me xQJPJNl8ZfY-00282-00203151-00203887 you want the long story or the short xQJPJNl8ZfY-00283-00203888-00204366 time to be doing a thing not one d xQJPJNl8ZfY-00284-00204367-00204687 okay there was is xQJPJNl8ZfY-00285-00204688-00205023 a construct a psyche on the chip xQJPJNl8ZfY-00286-00205023-00205375 out of johnny's silver hand you jacked xQJPJNl8ZfY-00287-00205376-00205527 it in your chip slot xQJPJNl8ZfY-00288-00205528-00205862 nothing happened right until you died xQJPJNl8ZfY-00289-00205863-00206206 bullet in the head from dexter to sean xQJPJNl8ZfY-00290-00206207-00206366 but how do you come back from something xQJPJNl8ZfY-00291-00206367-00206606 like that low caliber xQJPJNl8ZfY-00292-00206607-00206823 you lucked out not least thanks to xQJPJNl8ZfY-00293-00206823-00207214 another poor decision by mr deshawn xQJPJNl8ZfY-00294-00207215-00207431 the nanites off the chip started fixing xQJPJNl8ZfY-00295-00207432-00207534 the damage xQJPJNl8ZfY-00296-00207535-00207758 then they took your hand and coaxed you xQJPJNl8ZfY-00297-00207759-00208582 off the path toward the light xQJPJNl8ZfY-00298-00208583-00208855 let them just die and get up like xQJPJNl8ZfY-00299-00208856-00208903 nothing xQJPJNl8ZfY-00300-00208904-00209246 happened used to be true now it's only xQJPJNl8ZfY-00301-00209248-00209438 if they don't have a classified piece of xQJPJNl8ZfY-00302-00209439-00209534 corporate tech xQJPJNl8ZfY-00303-00209535-00209951 primed to resurrect them what about me xQJPJNl8ZfY-00304-00209952-00210263 my psyche i'll make it back from the xQJPJNl8ZfY-00305-00210264-00210398 other side and what xQJPJNl8ZfY-00306-00210400-00210679 i'm supposed to pretend change is normal xQJPJNl8ZfY-00307-00210680-00210887 ask the arasaka engineers who built the xQJPJNl8ZfY-00308-00210888-00211031 thing xQJPJNl8ZfY-00309-00211032-00211463 all i know is your mind's gonna go xQJPJNl8ZfY-00310-00211464-00211806 and it won't be pretty xQJPJNl8ZfY-00311-00211807-00212046 from the biochips perspective your brain xQJPJNl8ZfY-00312-00212048-00212223 cells are a tumor that needs to be xQJPJNl8ZfY-00313-00212223-00212358 scooped out xQJPJNl8ZfY-00314-00212359-00212663 well your body's an empty shell to hold xQJPJNl8ZfY-00315-00212664-00212823 the construct xQJPJNl8ZfY-00316-00212823-00213063 so this [__] terrorist wants to wipe xQJPJNl8ZfY-00317-00213064-00213127 me xQJPJNl8ZfY-00318-00213128-00213446 and take my place take my body xQJPJNl8ZfY-00319-00213448-00213663 it's not willful on his party's journeys xQJPJNl8ZfY-00320-00213664-00213855 that they still inevitable xQJPJNl8ZfY-00321-00213856-00214671 and neither of you can stop it xQJPJNl8ZfY-00322-00214671-00214942 can't we just take the chip out or xQJPJNl8ZfY-00323-00214944-00215127 switch it off xQJPJNl8ZfY-00324-00215128-00215682 either way's out of the question you die xQJPJNl8ZfY-00325-00215683-00215798 immediately xQJPJNl8ZfY-00326-00215800-00216215 vic you've always come through for me xQJPJNl8ZfY-00327-00216216-00216455 if there's nothing you can do to help me xQJPJNl8ZfY-00328-00216456-00216623 then xQJPJNl8ZfY-00329-00216623-00216975 well what the hell do i do tell me xQJPJNl8ZfY-00330-00216976-00217375 please thick i wish i knew xQJPJNl8ZfY-00331-00217376-00217751 kid xQJPJNl8ZfY-00332-00217752-00218551 misty xQJPJNl8ZfY-00333-00218552-00218767 you're asking too much from an old-timer xQJPJNl8ZfY-00334-00218767-00218982 like vic xQJPJNl8ZfY-00335-00218983-00219742 come on v let's get you home xQJPJNl8ZfY-00336-00219744-00221294 all these young teams xQJPJNl8ZfY-00337-00221296-00221775 him in my sleep xQJPJNl8ZfY-00338-00221776-00222079 sleep's a small hint of death xQJPJNl8ZfY-00339-00222080-00222406 the inevitable can't actually tell if xQJPJNl8ZfY-00340-00222407-00222646 i'm awake now xQJPJNl8ZfY-00341-00222648-00223134 i mean i could be dead already right xQJPJNl8ZfY-00342-00223135-00223591 not something to focus on v let it go xQJPJNl8ZfY-00343-00223592-00223951 uh i got some meds for you xQJPJNl8ZfY-00344-00223952-00224255 omega blockers taken regularly xQJPJNl8ZfY-00345-00224256-00224439 they'll keep things from progressing too xQJPJNl8ZfY-00346-00224440-00224615 quickly xQJPJNl8ZfY-00347-00224616-00224806 also they should keep that guest of xQJPJNl8ZfY-00348-00224807-00225139 yours calm and quiet xQJPJNl8ZfY-00349-00225140-00225423 pseudoendotrizines from me effect will xQJPJNl8ZfY-00350-00225423-00225510 be opposite xQJPJNl8ZfY-00351-00225511-00225751 it'll speed things up free the xQJPJNl8ZfY-00352-00225752-00226882 demonstration xQJPJNl8ZfY-00353-00226883-00227134 here xQJPJNl8ZfY-00354-00227135-00228158 i gotta lie down xQJPJNl8ZfY-00355-00228159-00228710 here got one more thing for you xQJPJNl8ZfY-00356-00228711-00228975 vic pulled this out of your skull a xQJPJNl8ZfY-00357-00228976-00229415 lucky charm xQJPJNl8ZfY-00358-00229416-00230151 promise you'll try to get some sleep xQJPJNl8ZfY-00359-00230152-00230494 misty wait um xQJPJNl8ZfY-00360-00230496-00231398 yeah let's cut the [__] yeah xQJPJNl8ZfY-00361-00231400-00231703 he talked about you xQJPJNl8ZfY-00362-00231704-00232006 like lots xQJPJNl8ZfY-00363-00232007-00232327 we got into a fight right before he went xQJPJNl8ZfY-00364-00232328-00232567 off to do this job xQJPJNl8ZfY-00365-00232567-00232919 he wasn't mad at you i hope you know xQJPJNl8ZfY-00366-00232919-00233079 that xQJPJNl8ZfY-00367-00233080-00233415 i know i just wish our last moments xQJPJNl8ZfY-00368-00233416-00233882 together could have been xQJPJNl8ZfY-00369-00233883-00234167 different xQJPJNl8ZfY-00370-00234167-00234567 but right now you need rest so sleep xQJPJNl8ZfY-00372-00238083-00240519 uh xQJPJNl8ZfY-00373-00240519-00241094 need a smoke where'd you stash yours xQJPJNl8ZfY-00374-00241096-00242479 without that lapis xQJPJNl8ZfY-00375-00242480-00242751 where'd you even come from how are we xQJPJNl8ZfY-00376-00242752-00242934 even talking xQJPJNl8ZfY-00377-00242935-00243239 how the [__] should i know i die xQJPJNl8ZfY-00378-00243240-00243423 what kind of joy toy are you supposed to xQJPJNl8ZfY-00379-00243423-00246358 be [__] ghost off xQJPJNl8ZfY-00380-00246359-00246751 who you work for start talking xQJPJNl8ZfY-00381-00246752-00247294 [__] xQJPJNl8ZfY-00382-00247296-00248279 [__] i xQJPJNl8ZfY-00383-00248280-00248671 [__] chip xQJPJNl8ZfY-00384-00248671-00250446 rip the thing out myself no wait xQJPJNl8ZfY-00385-00250448-00251023 i'll take control xQJPJNl8ZfY-00386-00251023-00251479 i'll find a way xQJPJNl8ZfY-00387-00251480-00253263 are you xQJPJNl8ZfY-00388-00253264-00253606 see you never [__] xQJPJNl8ZfY-00389-00253607-00253967 like that stick some iron in your mouth xQJPJNl8ZfY-00390-00253967-00254871 and pull the trigger xQJPJNl8ZfY-00391-00254871-00255239 i'm like mold on fruit creeping into you xQJPJNl8ZfY-00392-00255240-00255655 nothing i can do about it you hear me xQJPJNl8ZfY-00393-00255656-00255942 i'd puke if i [__] could it's just a xQJPJNl8ZfY-00394-00255944-00256110 copy of the engram xQJPJNl8ZfY-00395-00256111-00257239 i'm out there somewhere gotta xQJPJNl8ZfY-00396-00257240-00258215 what are you waiting for xQJPJNl8ZfY-00397-00258216-00258791 oh [__] me xQJPJNl8ZfY-00398-00258792-00260482 i'm a chucky yeah xQJPJNl8ZfY-00399-00260483-00261882 foreign xQJPJNl8ZfY-00401-00268464-00268672 you xQNdIZaX98I-00000-00002947-00003927 [Music] xQNdIZaX98I-00001-00003928-00005186 [Music] xQNdIZaX98I-00002-00005187-00007352 [Music] xQNdIZaX98I-00003-00007353-00008449 [Music] xQNdIZaX98I-00005-00011758-00012778 [Music] xQNdIZaX98I-00007-00016593-00016875 I'm so humbled and privileged to be here xQNdIZaX98I-00008-00016876-00018519 today of my within the justice system my xQNdIZaX98I-00009-00018520-00019634 job is to monitor Jake fees not to me to xQNdIZaX98I-00010-00019635-00019958 make justice happen xQNdIZaX98I-00011-00019959-00020530 not only over here amuse them but also xQNdIZaX98I-00012-00020531-00021314 international I asked my father to xQNdIZaX98I-00013-00021315-00021680 musical believing their funding trust xQNdIZaX98I-00014-00021681-00022225 that I had asked him about the awesome xQNdIZaX98I-00015-00022226-00022583 Omari chamber because this jurisdiction xQNdIZaX98I-00016-00022584-00023261 scored in the hockey Ottavio in the xQNdIZaX98I-00017-00023262-00023889 international courts so they agreed so xQNdIZaX98I-00018-00023890-00024128 now I'm on buddy xQNdIZaX98I-00019-00024129-00024630 this partner to help so I'm so xQNdIZaX98I-00020-00024631-00024944 privileged to be here and then it's my xQNdIZaX98I-00021-00024945-00025353 job to be able to to sign these xQNdIZaX98I-00022-00025354-00027122 documents in Stanton where they going on xQNdIZaX98I-00024-00032214-00034523 [Music] xQNdIZaX98I-00025-00034524-00035024 tried from neighborhood is therefore for xQNdIZaX98I-00026-00035025-00035210 a colony or the Chatham Islands xQNdIZaX98I-00027-00035211-00035893 that is I'm descended from that those xQNdIZaX98I-00028-00035894-00036248 who Leone's target are filled with the xQNdIZaX98I-00029-00036249-00036623 rifle not a finger I know that the xQNdIZaX98I-00030-00036624-00037368 history in the consumer because my xQNdIZaX98I-00031-00037369-00037973 married Hamilton humble it in Jamul when xQNdIZaX98I-00032-00037974-00038273 program he died the state system flew xQNdIZaX98I-00033-00038274-00038810 that Apollo when he died his younger xQNdIZaX98I-00034-00038811-00039157 brother married his name was Tom Cote xQNdIZaX98I-00035-00039158-00039583 married to same woman and they were xQNdIZaX98I-00036-00039584-00039943 booted out of the logic random ended up xQNdIZaX98I-00037-00039944-00040411 in Titan during night time down in the xQNdIZaX98I-00038-00040412-00041333 Sahara is a big beginning and from the xQNdIZaX98I-00039-00041334-00041923 carried on by dysfunction from my xQNdIZaX98I-00040-00041924-00042818 tutelage brother Tao portugee win32 all xQNdIZaX98I-00041-00042819-00043268 the others from self-honest incorporated xQNdIZaX98I-00043-00051527-00051794 because we're making a ruling today it xQNdIZaX98I-00044-00051795-00052713 sticks xQNdIZaX98I-00045-00052714-00055607 we need men you have to choose what I xQNdIZaX98I-00046-00055608-00056224 want three I hate movies xQNdIZaX98I-00047-00056225-00058061 what are you talking them together so xQNdIZaX98I-00048-00058062-00058678 you're getting slept here it don't there xQNdIZaX98I-00049-00058679-00059186 and all day I read you when you open two xQNdIZaX98I-00050-00059187-00059486 teeth album rapid and did not you came xQNdIZaX98I-00051-00059487-00061274 with me any be with me since take them xQNdIZaX98I-00052-00061275-00061607 away now xQNdIZaX98I-00053-00061608-00062135 what do you done you know anyone nice to xQNdIZaX98I-00054-00062136-00062849 put me where I didn't you'd won thank xQNdIZaX98I-00055-00062850-00063505 you both for coming the wall will see xQNdIZaX98I-00056-00063507-00063981 that they are fairly a committee senior xQNdIZaX98I-00057-00063982-00065066 did we have to sit to see hey you don't xQNdIZaX98I-00058-00065066-00066703 need a room full of people xQNdIZaX98I-00060-00070455-00071072 line see the hoodie to Cooney he shall xQNdIZaX98I-00061-00071073-00071419 hidden my that's my grandmother's father xQNdIZaX98I-00063-00076418-00077003 you know who is telling mom but they xQNdIZaX98I-00064-00077004-00077225 given you their training they receive xQNdIZaX98I-00065-00077226-00077723 MIDI bubbles he there were any good on xQNdIZaX98I-00066-00077724-00077999 the one that they belong to d-day to xQNdIZaX98I-00067-00078000-00078567 Panama there was the second minimum xQNdIZaX98I-00068-00078568-00078919 let's filter on the appt and then the xQNdIZaX98I-00069-00078920-00079273 stereo ones my grandma mother to clap xQNdIZaX98I-00070-00079274-00079684 they need another for lady locks that's xQNdIZaX98I-00071-00079685-00080485 all I said me now now purely very xQNdIZaX98I-00072-00080486-00081330 knowledgeable you're gonna watch them xQNdIZaX98I-00073-00081331-00081559 and now watch your mouth watch your xQNdIZaX98I-00074-00081560-00082572 mouth yeah boy you money xQNdIZaX98I-00076-00088060-00088744 he's an Assyrian what she because a xQNdIZaX98I-00077-00088745-00089110 mother and brother is a felon sisterhood xQNdIZaX98I-00078-00089111-00089392 because of my mother xQNdIZaX98I-00079-00089393-00089836 well my combination my mother that is xQNdIZaX98I-00080-00089837-00090391 not Oh sister xQNdIZaX98I-00081-00090392-00090805 so let me like they did they like that xQNdIZaX98I-00082-00090806-00091561 probably more system oh don't move our xQNdIZaX98I-00083-00091562-00092443 picture he cheated me I said well which xQNdIZaX98I-00084-00092444-00092755 one do you think oh yeah that's it xQNdIZaX98I-00085-00092756-00093182 shitty TV but even I what did we need xQNdIZaX98I-00086-00093183-00093466 there they did very cable on the head a xQNdIZaX98I-00087-00093467-00093961 talk 207 eat you cook the other circuit xQNdIZaX98I-00088-00093962-00094619 on my mother said nutini's xQNdIZaX98I-00089-00094620-00095031 a woman or either their John have be xQNdIZaX98I-00090-00095032-00095456 very row right there neither happy well xQNdIZaX98I-00091-00095457-00095775 thank you a school I be their native xQNdIZaX98I-00092-00095776-00096423 school 5060 better you know because xQNdIZaX98I-00093-00096424-00096586 Polar Sea xQNdIZaX98I-00094-00096587-00096801 why do you see they are say well I think xQNdIZaX98I-00095-00096802-00097462 gravity you take her own but now on that xQNdIZaX98I-00096-00097463-00099199 now we can target community field all xQNdIZaX98I-00097-00099200-00099507 being 20 something is or not trust xQNdIZaX98I-00098-00099508-00100059 educate me oh what a horrible things xQNdIZaX98I-00099-00100060-00100780 big time youtuber 60 $77 story money and xQNdIZaX98I-00100-00100781-00100968 what I had a terrible that could not sue xQNdIZaX98I-00101-00100969-00101518 me xQNdIZaX98I-00102-00101519-00101876 which is my pop star oh I'm not saying xQNdIZaX98I-00103-00101877-00102212 with a theme but you know it was so much xQNdIZaX98I-00104-00102213-00102644 that this price you know he going to be xQNdIZaX98I-00105-00102645-00103316 displaced because he'll target be well xQNdIZaX98I-00106-00103317-00103721 they were uh nobody was here they're xQNdIZaX98I-00107-00103722-00104008 here in this place and also a little xQNdIZaX98I-00108-00104009-00104267 hoop 15th birthday pig when I watch xQNdIZaX98I-00109-00104268-00104573 their home in come to it gets he was a xQNdIZaX98I-00110-00104574-00105404 brilliant I love it all but you talk to xQNdIZaX98I-00111-00105405-00107279 the younger generation think you know xQNdIZaX98I-00112-00107280-00107785 there will not come back to gravity xQNdIZaX98I-00113-00107786-00108253 machine are simply my and I should you xQNdIZaX98I-00114-00108254-00108551 know holding the cooties found that that xQNdIZaX98I-00115-00108552-00108709 she's dead I see the spirit especially xQNdIZaX98I-00116-00108710-00109214 he was quite shocked the better do what xQNdIZaX98I-00117-00109215-00109547 it took me less the better me pleasure xQNdIZaX98I-00118-00109548-00109852 [Music] xQNdIZaX98I-00119-00109853-00110243 well it is white up there is on the xQNdIZaX98I-00120-00110244-00111388 point people today xQNdIZaX98I-00121-00111389-00111622 let me know we come back to watch this xQNdIZaX98I-00122-00111623-00112765 mess kept me through I just kind of wish xQNdIZaX98I-00123-00112766-00113368 to explain here obesity bloody years xQNdIZaX98I-00125-00119155-00119436 documents you know you've got proof you xQNdIZaX98I-00126-00119438-00119610 know something go around around around xQNdIZaX98I-00127-00119611-00120201 around around copy on things like this xQNdIZaX98I-00128-00120202-00120969 saluted me who would have local least I xQNdIZaX98I-00129-00120970-00121426 don't how do we did that time honey xQNdIZaX98I-00130-00121427-00121890 where's Charlie so it Moses never see xQNdIZaX98I-00131-00121891-00122496 his daughter Mike xQNdIZaX98I-00132-00122497-00122814 my way elderly well I feel so foolish xQNdIZaX98I-00133-00122815-00123171 men you doping with those photos I did xQNdIZaX98I-00134-00123172-00123575 not plan it you did two on the back xQNdIZaX98I-00135-00123576-00124115 Malik was so he still don't get the xQNdIZaX98I-00136-00124116-00124758 bloody hell are they get to the warning xQNdIZaX98I-00137-00124758-00125039 with teen take movie hey I want a DVD xQNdIZaX98I-00138-00125040-00125319 with cheese we should leave a man like xQNdIZaX98I-00139-00125320-00126289 what what you know a loss of em approval xQNdIZaX98I-00140-00126290-00127638 you thrust another maximum straightening xQNdIZaX98I-00142-00130738-00131058 in the world but not the rock that the xQNdIZaX98I-00143-00131058-00131477 rock that was because more he was xQNdIZaX98I-00144-00131478-00131939 running the Roman told him to hold stick xQNdIZaX98I-00145-00131940-00132276 the shrimp egg big stick and just all he xQNdIZaX98I-00146-00132277-00132420 did but he was running around the place xQNdIZaX98I-00147-00132421-00134566 job and not only didn't love it because xQNdIZaX98I-00149-00139974-00140527 he was leading down when he was hopeful xQNdIZaX98I-00150-00140528-00143042 and therefore also these are the idea Oh xQNdIZaX98I-00152-00154734-00155373 that's removed everyone and found it xQNdIZaX98I-00153-00155374-00155700 this tip somebody made a mistake big xQNdIZaX98I-00154-00155701-00155748 mistake xQNdIZaX98I-00155-00155749-00156063 and then somebody takes in this to xQNdIZaX98I-00156-00156064-00156771 be prank you know him you gonna back you xQNdIZaX98I-00157-00156772-00159648 chasing you all the end will change that xQNdIZaX98I-00158-00159649-00160067 so one of us is going to win this way I xQNdIZaX98I-00159-00160068-00160404 wasn't no way no me neither xQNdIZaX98I-00160-00160405-00161180 right so we got some skill and smile xQNdIZaX98I-00161-00161181-00163236 we're all berry but different Kylie and xQNdIZaX98I-00162-00163237-00163509 we just say that to complete teeth xQNdIZaX98I-00163-00163510-00163797 document we just sign and put them into xQNdIZaX98I-00164-00163798-00164235 the law the law handle oh hey I'm just xQNdIZaX98I-00165-00164236-00164967 the messenger xQNdIZaX98I-00166-00164968-00166901 [Music] xQNdIZaX98I-00167-00166902-00167802 [Music] xQNdIZaX98I-00168-00167803-00169651 [Music] xQNdIZaX98I-00171-00177270-00178502 anyone so are you xQNdIZaX98I-00173-00181953-00182218 I've always been attracted to John xQNdIZaX98I-00174-00182219-00183129 through his knowledge I've been more xQNdIZaX98I-00175-00183130-00183396 recently attracted to him we had a good xQNdIZaX98I-00176-00183397-00183653 coded or rather to about a path to xQNdIZaX98I-00177-00183654-00184299 knowledge only because portals on the xQNdIZaX98I-00178-00184300-00184536 other side is saying go under the xQNdIZaX98I-00179-00184537-00184782 Hackney and you get the money and you xQNdIZaX98I-00180-00184783-00186044 will get the protection I always find it xQNdIZaX98I-00181-00186045-00186312 it's more music when you've been brought xQNdIZaX98I-00182-00186313-00186753 up with things from the talavera and xQNdIZaX98I-00183-00186754-00187029 then you come to a place and it's xQNdIZaX98I-00184-00187030-00187455 non-existent and you wonder but we're xQNdIZaX98I-00185-00187456-00187758 the people get their strength from so xQNdIZaX98I-00186-00187759-00188009 when you're in that environment and you xQNdIZaX98I-00187-00188010-00188331 seem to know things and you know they xQNdIZaX98I-00188-00188332-00188844 don't know it makes you wonder whether xQNdIZaX98I-00189-00188845-00189255 we're still listening to and here I'll xQNdIZaX98I-00190-00189256-00189534 say the physical who's the man or the xQNdIZaX98I-00191-00189535-00190083 spiritual who's the wider right and I xQNdIZaX98I-00192-00190084-00190371 have this difficulty in in listening to xQNdIZaX98I-00193-00190372-00191324 mean make laws without referring to xQNdIZaX98I-00194-00191325-00191876 something that was given and then I mean xQNdIZaX98I-00195-00191877-00192495 what the example from coral is we must xQNdIZaX98I-00196-00192496-00193016 unite Europe right we Maori must unite xQNdIZaX98I-00197-00193017-00193326 and either I hear all of our people xQNdIZaX98I-00198-00193327-00193740 talking about the whiteness and so I xQNdIZaX98I-00199-00193741-00193836 think xQNdIZaX98I-00200-00193837-00194107 there is no compliment has not passed xQNdIZaX98I-00201-00194108-00194587 right the second thing he said he need xQNdIZaX98I-00202-00194588-00194830 to hate here is a key player and all of xQNdIZaX98I-00203-00194831-00195340 this and then I guess Ola or some of our xQNdIZaX98I-00204-00195341-00195610 not to eat for no reason is not my xQNdIZaX98I-00205-00195611-00195943 energy that's understandable xQNdIZaX98I-00206-00195944-00196414 but there's more to it than that when xQNdIZaX98I-00207-00196415-00196861 you meet in the monarchy that sovereign xQNdIZaX98I-00208-00196862-00197281 he is talk to one another it's not who xQNdIZaX98I-00209-00197282-00197629 mana points if the people are pointed xQNdIZaX98I-00210-00197630-00198237 there and such that you you should go xQNdIZaX98I-00211-00198238-00198637 the third point is like coconut will be xQNdIZaX98I-00212-00198638-00198943 given first opportunity to make it work xQNdIZaX98I-00213-00198944-00199288 that's why I'm following everything in xQNdIZaX98I-00214-00199289-00199597 Tai Tokerau and this interview of us or xQNdIZaX98I-00215-00199598-00199927 there's a few they're saying whatever xQNdIZaX98I-00216-00199928-00200220 whatever to try and make it work and xQNdIZaX98I-00217-00200221-00200659 then I preached what was given up Cindy xQNdIZaX98I-00218-00200660-00200887 said why tubby I've seen this on a xQNdIZaX98I-00219-00200888-00201169 regular I've seen this f1 total when we xQNdIZaX98I-00220-00201170-00201493 used to meet there last year with boy it xQNdIZaX98I-00221-00201494-00201766 might be huh if it's not as if I haven't xQNdIZaX98I-00222-00201767-00201994 stated this our state insists that have xQNdIZaX98I-00223-00201995-00202084 trust issues xQNdIZaX98I-00224-00202085-00202447 right so it's not as if it's all used is xQNdIZaX98I-00225-00202448-00202741 not something new but it's I've stated xQNdIZaX98I-00226-00202742-00202888 it in this my life xQNdIZaX98I-00227-00202889-00203353 and the last one whether the seeking xQNdIZaX98I-00228-00203354-00203770 last thing he said is if like took the xQNdIZaX98I-00229-00203771-00204037 low carb soda there it's going back to xQNdIZaX98I-00230-00204038-00204442 poor who we are but they will be a multi xQNdIZaX98I-00231-00204443-00204982 Parliament okay so I don't know you we xQNdIZaX98I-00232-00204983-00205177 won't know about the history or career xQNdIZaX98I-00233-00205178-00205509 but it was started in 1908 and xQNdIZaX98I-00234-00205510-00206008 officially recognized in 1816 so it's xQNdIZaX98I-00235-00206009-00206144 already there xQNdIZaX98I-00236-00206146-00206604 went into recess in 1947 and then it xQNdIZaX98I-00237-00206605-00207119 opened up again in 1997 they went on xQNdIZaX98I-00238-00207121-00207456 down monaco their development they had xQNdIZaX98I-00239-00207457-00207758 all their whatever whatever but it never xQNdIZaX98I-00240-00207759-00207951 it never got off the floor through xQNdIZaX98I-00241-00207952-00208235 whatever reasons it never had never come xQNdIZaX98I-00242-00208236-00208490 to fruition that's what my Hinata he xQNdIZaX98I-00243-00208491-00208784 wasn't charged she put out a book she xQNdIZaX98I-00244-00208785-00208988 put out this booklet and he gives the xQNdIZaX98I-00245-00208989-00209352 history and in this booklet is the first xQNdIZaX98I-00246-00209353-00209735 time I put him and his name is why coupl xQNdIZaX98I-00247-00209736-00210092 tena hope plan hitting him it's funny xQNdIZaX98I-00248-00210094-00210354 because in the book when we hit her xQNdIZaX98I-00249-00210355-00210859 written by Dorothy village she only xQNdIZaX98I-00250-00210860-00211157 mentions white couple right true as xQNdIZaX98I-00251-00211158-00211623 white time now I've been hearing him xQNdIZaX98I-00252-00211623-00211919 why couple was sort of thing to get xQNdIZaX98I-00253-00211921-00212202 feminine I'll be here in him this one xQNdIZaX98I-00254-00212203-00212483 trick to this one to do this and we xQNdIZaX98I-00255-00212484-00212892 still hearing those sensible going both xQNdIZaX98I-00256-00212892-00213257 side wall around the bell and I think xQNdIZaX98I-00257-00213258-00213576 those things are easy to do in small xQNdIZaX98I-00258-00213577-00213987 groups right but we got a mess in Hui xQNdIZaX98I-00259-00213988-00214491 the size of whatever 100 or whatever I xQNdIZaX98I-00260-00214492-00215037 think it's hard to conceal what T pepper xQNdIZaX98I-00261-00215038-00215802 is and what isn't and so I talked to xQNdIZaX98I-00262-00215803-00216039 John I thought about this and I see this xQNdIZaX98I-00263-00216040-00216405 as a starting point for um those xQNdIZaX98I-00264-00216406-00216767 decisions of pudding - pudding now Mike xQNdIZaX98I-00265-00216769-00217092 we are here and the chicken or three xQNdIZaX98I-00266-00217092-00217464 brothers and eat an AHA honey was body's xQNdIZaX98I-00267-00217465-00217958 first cousin was Annie's father Pippa xQNdIZaX98I-00268-00217959-00218348 Peter Cooper was the older brother of xQNdIZaX98I-00269-00218350-00218553 horny to Cody's father xQNdIZaX98I-00270-00218554-00219094 Ramat right so we xQNdIZaX98I-00271-00219094-00219764 of how we address who's who in the xQNdIZaX98I-00272-00219765-00220148 top of order because it can be xQNdIZaX98I-00273-00220148-00220669 misconstrued as and this leads me to the xQNdIZaX98I-00274-00220669-00221159 papers than a sinner by the surveyors xQNdIZaX98I-00275-00221160-00221588 from Edinburgh right a beachy data xQNdIZaX98I-00276-00221589-00222092 proceed ahahahaha and so I'm saying here xQNdIZaX98I-00277-00222092-00222404 is the father Papa always takes you back xQNdIZaX98I-00278-00222405-00222803 to the landowners with those who will it xQNdIZaX98I-00279-00222804-00223208 be a mana rock or whatever River and the xQNdIZaX98I-00280-00223209-00223823 boundaries of work changed over and it's xQNdIZaX98I-00281-00223823-00224081 for androgynous Magnus who this would xQNdIZaX98I-00282-00224082-00224444 make all commerce and that's where the xQNdIZaX98I-00283-00224444-00224644 money comes ins okay xQNdIZaX98I-00284-00224646-00225019 John was really I think John's gifted in xQNdIZaX98I-00285-00225021-00225467 the sense behind I assume I believe the xQNdIZaX98I-00286-00225467-00225760 gift should be pushed the other way to xQNdIZaX98I-00287-00225761-00226337 unite rather than divide the flock we xQNdIZaX98I-00288-00226338-00226658 should be bringing the flop in rather xQNdIZaX98I-00289-00226659-00227098 than pushing them apart because to give xQNdIZaX98I-00290-00227100-00227651 the res one Maori would be and more it's xQNdIZaX98I-00291-00227652-00227869 just like that time and more equity when xQNdIZaX98I-00292-00227871-00228098 they find their friends and that's what xQNdIZaX98I-00293-00228098-00228367 I'm hoping will do with that color Lee xQNdIZaX98I-00294-00228369-00228791 is all or modify a flag because it's xQNdIZaX98I-00295-00228792-00229035 it's our freedom it's our sovereignty xQNdIZaX98I-00296-00229036-00229528 it's it's our jurisdiction another xQNdIZaX98I-00297-00229529-00229810 prison we're under the jurisdiction of a xQNdIZaX98I-00298-00229811-00230123 company a company how many of us know xQNdIZaX98I-00299-00230123-00230635 they're a company what you know it's not xQNdIZaX98I-00300-00230636-00231053 right but it's because we don't know the xQNdIZaX98I-00301-00231054-00231242 power of the flame xQNdIZaX98I-00302-00231244-00231656 and us as Molly joined together under xQNdIZaX98I-00303-00231657-00231915 one jurisdiction we don't know there xQNdIZaX98I-00304-00231916-00232256 because I'm still here in corridor like xQNdIZaX98I-00305-00232257-00232814 I'm here in here with Luke 12 fl English xQNdIZaX98I-00306-00232815-00233183 tupuna divide and rule word lifted well xQNdIZaX98I-00307-00233184-00235351 we're to colonize xQNdIZaX98I-00308-00235352-00235810 so it's to me it's not so simple just xQNdIZaX98I-00309-00235811-00236308 use mine that's the hardest part that is xQNdIZaX98I-00310-00236309-00236598 the hardest part xQNdIZaX98I-00311-00236598-00237016 that's why I say two particles tie-dye xQNdIZaX98I-00312-00237017-00237483 50 cut out the trouble is kind of hair xQNdIZaX98I-00313-00237484-00237796 otherwise we'll keep it in the head cut xQNdIZaX98I-00314-00237796-00238015 out the old stories the wit they wore xQNdIZaX98I-00315-00238016-00238210 when they got one another when they xQNdIZaX98I-00316-00238211-00238633 whatever today's 2017 you did glow up xQNdIZaX98I-00317-00238634-00238858 will do more those who do things but xQNdIZaX98I-00318-00238859-00239107 it's like our brain hasn't cooked into xQNdIZaX98I-00319-00239108-00241296 it we are now xQNdIZaX98I-00320-00241298-00241525 and that that's what I'm finding it hard xQNdIZaX98I-00321-00241526-00241789 we had who here I'm level helped us we xQNdIZaX98I-00322-00241790-00242109 are the 18 people and the last food it xQNdIZaX98I-00323-00242110-00242532 will come down to the flag and so from xQNdIZaX98I-00324-00242533-00242764 June the fourth last year right up until xQNdIZaX98I-00325-00242765-00243031 now I'm trying to say how do we get xQNdIZaX98I-00326-00243032-00243379 people on the plane because to me that's xQNdIZaX98I-00327-00243380-00243723 our jurisdiction get it out of these xQNdIZaX98I-00328-00243725-00243967 don't worry man what they've done what xQNdIZaX98I-00329-00243967-00244296 they did whatever just worry about what xQNdIZaX98I-00330-00244298-00244675 we can do don't worry about recovering xQNdIZaX98I-00331-00244676-00244998 dick because there we've got more money xQNdIZaX98I-00332-00245000-00245476 than anybody knows okay korto since I xQNdIZaX98I-00333-00245477-00245614 can talk about the money xQNdIZaX98I-00334-00245615-00245821 now before portal wouldn't let me talk xQNdIZaX98I-00335-00245821-00246142 about the money but you've got to be the xQNdIZaX98I-00336-00246142-00246541 signatory to the money okay and this is xQNdIZaX98I-00337-00246542-00246787 why to meet we're having these split xQNdIZaX98I-00338-00246788-00247092 split groups everybody's trying to get xQNdIZaX98I-00339-00247094-00247242 in on the money xQNdIZaX98I-00340-00247242-00247632 John I noticed and it's not nice now and xQNdIZaX98I-00341-00247633-00248307 getting back everything comes back to xQNdIZaX98I-00342-00248308-00248538 your business xQNdIZaX98I-00343-00248539-00248965 and I keep I get there but wouldn't it xQNdIZaX98I-00344-00248966-00249376 be better if all the people and you xQNdIZaX98I-00345-00249377-00249640 do say that but with the money in the xQNdIZaX98I-00346-00249641-00249901 bank from the hour with your bank it is xQNdIZaX98I-00347-00249902-00250171 deep like it's in for loss but you gotta xQNdIZaX98I-00348-00250171-00250378 get got to be one of the signatories and xQNdIZaX98I-00349-00250379-00250656 that's why I say your be a signatory and xQNdIZaX98I-00350-00250657-00250884 you gotta be royal those are the two xQNdIZaX98I-00351-00250885-00251071 ingredients to getting your hands on the xQNdIZaX98I-00352-00251071-00251358 money okay I want to talk about money xQNdIZaX98I-00353-00251359-00251739 before before school of inside us is not xQNdIZaX98I-00354-00251740-00252119 there always are each sent out people xQNdIZaX98I-00355-00252121-00252412 but I'm still hearing it but kudos xQNdIZaX98I-00356-00252413-00252640 saying what you need to say you need to xQNdIZaX98I-00357-00252641-00252916 say so people know that it is there xQNdIZaX98I-00358-00252917-00253315 right so that money is there right but xQNdIZaX98I-00359-00253316-00253680 you have to be one the sprite signature xQNdIZaX98I-00360-00253681-00254058 and two you have to be from their world xQNdIZaX98I-00361-00254059-00254300 line and those xQNdIZaX98I-00362-00254301-00254560 people could report to dr. phenol phenol xQNdIZaX98I-00363-00254561-00254875 went around he took the who who am l xQNdIZaX98I-00364-00254876-00255169 phenomena and not suppose he could only xQNdIZaX98I-00365-00255171-00255644 one booth so I'm not moving and follow xQNdIZaX98I-00366-00255644-00255980 me to fund a tour since am I gonna feed xQNdIZaX98I-00367-00255981-00256516 the people my goals right xQNdIZaX98I-00368-00256517-00256900 so the in the corner which not as if xQNdIZaX98I-00369-00256901-00257204 Whitechapel were just took it on water xQNdIZaX98I-00370-00257205-00257531 the people went around to the people so xQNdIZaX98I-00371-00257532-00257855 he was made the people see who could xQNdIZaX98I-00372-00257856-00258239 feel him was made the people scheme and xQNdIZaX98I-00373-00258240-00258496 that's all I'm saying here it goes back xQNdIZaX98I-00374-00258498-00258740 to the Royal line into the right xQNdIZaX98I-00375-00258741-00259025 signature because if you go over there xQNdIZaX98I-00376-00259026-00259328 and you represent a stone I beat you xQNdIZaX98I-00377-00259329-00259648 they were you won't get nervous once xQNdIZaX98I-00378-00259650-00259894 it'll be my town which been happening xQNdIZaX98I-00379-00259896-00260105 the last twenty years three years xQNdIZaX98I-00380-00260106-00260375 whatever wanted because the right xQNdIZaX98I-00381-00260376-00260584 players haven't been in place xQNdIZaX98I-00382-00260585-00260815 Colonel says your documents mean nothing xQNdIZaX98I-00383-00260816-00261223 right that's what clueless a good or say xQNdIZaX98I-00384-00261223-00261421 it's practical xQNdIZaX98I-00385-00261423-00261610 tell them about the table because xQNdIZaX98I-00386-00261611-00262295 the up Papa says the right I know xQNdIZaX98I-00387-00262296-00262574 you explain that it comes through your xQNdIZaX98I-00388-00262575-00262864 documents come through with commerce xQNdIZaX98I-00389-00262865-00263279 right and they dictate to me talks about xQNdIZaX98I-00390-00263280-00264625 man but before I finished I tried xQNdIZaX98I-00391-00264626-00264971 because I'm trying to unite us xQNdIZaX98I-00392-00264972-00265635 I tried happy anybody xQNdIZaX98I-00393-00265636-00265983 start something will and I know I'm xQNdIZaX98I-00394-00265984-00266430 probably what doesn't probably 70 Google xQNdIZaX98I-00395-00266431-00266883 what it'll do for the years but that's xQNdIZaX98I-00396-00266884-00267099 the main thing that was the first thing xQNdIZaX98I-00397-00267100-00267705 that could assist Maori must unite but xQNdIZaX98I-00398-00267706-00267972 that's that's common sense in anything xQNdIZaX98I-00399-00267973-00268254 when you going up kapa haka team you got xQNdIZaX98I-00400-00268255-00268414 all your night when you're in a football xQNdIZaX98I-00401-00268415-00268758 TV but all your night it's it's so xQNdIZaX98I-00402-00268759-00269048 common it's common sense xQNdIZaX98I-00403-00269049-00269625 somewhere along the line with lost and I xQNdIZaX98I-00404-00269626-00270040 just wonder why have we lost it why when xQNdIZaX98I-00405-00270041-00270262 I come to the model I can't help the xQNdIZaX98I-00406-00270263-00270541 course why they don't come and help me xQNdIZaX98I-00407-00270542-00270892 move along why have we lost there that xQNdIZaX98I-00408-00270893-00271308 net was a paper you want to hear why xQNdIZaX98I-00409-00271309-00271881 have we lost them and that probably is xQNdIZaX98I-00410-00271882-00272559 my answer to all those who are going in xQNdIZaX98I-00411-00272560-00272859 in a broken home rather than a united xQNdIZaX98I-00412-00272860-00273410 front and that's my Christian also why xQNdIZaX98I-00413-00273411-00274254 we simply that this is one native xQNdIZaX98I-00414-00274255-00274495 country the other main country has the xQNdIZaX98I-00415-00274496-00274843 same boat with the same mother do it xQNdIZaX98I-00416-00274844-00275143 today so they're trying to form xQNdIZaX98I-00417-00275144-00275399 something at the same time under the xQNdIZaX98I-00418-00275400-00275796 1800s they still subjected to some other xQNdIZaX98I-00419-00275797-00276048 higher power and it always seems to be xQNdIZaX98I-00420-00276049-00276268 money in a row because to pay the bills xQNdIZaX98I-00421-00276269-00276645 and the normal thing is to have self we xQNdIZaX98I-00422-00276646-00276999 stand on the Apollo youth all of it xQNdIZaX98I-00423-00277000-00277469 prior for people to join what you got xQNdIZaX98I-00424-00277470-00277823 and you're just like that what do you xQNdIZaX98I-00425-00277824-00278150 say joy me because I don't mean that xQNdIZaX98I-00426-00278151-00278414 and I'll put food on your table we're xQNdIZaX98I-00427-00278415-00278606 going through the gardens and death but xQNdIZaX98I-00428-00278607-00278894 then that's possible cut from here to xQNdIZaX98I-00429-00278895-00279152 get this yeah for me a break xQNdIZaX98I-00430-00279153-00279401 around the world with this you only xQNdIZaX98I-00431-00279402-00279524 going up the rudder xQNdIZaX98I-00432-00279525-00279674 you can't even get off the shore with it xQNdIZaX98I-00433-00279675-00279884 yeah well I'm taking this round more xQNdIZaX98I-00434-00279885-00280100 food Britain now I'm going to say xQNdIZaX98I-00435-00280101-00280523 you're going to do this with 50 so you xQNdIZaX98I-00436-00280524-00280838 did to them it fix it I'm saying to them xQNdIZaX98I-00437-00280839-00281210 I'm your Papa then you'll say you not xQNdIZaX98I-00438-00281211-00281597 and use this what people saw you do that xQNdIZaX98I-00439-00281598-00281687 that was it xQNdIZaX98I-00440-00281688-00281879 who can you're certain to use this which xQNdIZaX98I-00441-00281880-00282221 chief picked it and took this right - xQNdIZaX98I-00442-00282222-00282548 what tell me what you're saying bring xQNdIZaX98I-00443-00282549-00282755 people together and use the same way xQNdIZaX98I-00444-00282756-00283067 tell me what your authority who gives xQNdIZaX98I-00445-00283068-00283487 your heart music they made to you a xQNdIZaX98I-00446-00283488-00283757 summer thing in this long run people we xQNdIZaX98I-00447-00283758-00283919 are gonna have our little presentation xQNdIZaX98I-00448-00283920-00284228 parts now you're gonna have she'll take xQNdIZaX98I-00449-00284229-00284567 from you to the message Grenville oh xQNdIZaX98I-00450-00284568-00284885 just because this plague is a warfare xQNdIZaX98I-00451-00284886-00285223 this controller will is white anymore xQNdIZaX98I-00452-00285224-00285566 it's controlling the whole money in the xQNdIZaX98I-00453-00285567-00285986 world in whitening with a chip where xQNdIZaX98I-00454-00285987-00286055 they went xQNdIZaX98I-00455-00286056-00286328 man will with the blue sheep in the sky xQNdIZaX98I-00456-00286329-00286751 now see this is what my chain I'll give xQNdIZaX98I-00457-00286752-00287000 you a thing but with the instructions xQNdIZaX98I-00458-00287001-00287240 I'm gonna find that it's will you find xQNdIZaX98I-00459-00287241-00287531 in astana you know what to know that xQNdIZaX98I-00460-00287532-00287906 that private business if you want to xQNdIZaX98I-00461-00287907-00288179 slay don't fight for no reason because xQNdIZaX98I-00462-00288180-00288488 take it off you you see if you don't xQNdIZaX98I-00463-00288489-00288722 tell me how to pay off people rather xQNdIZaX98I-00464-00288723-00289103 right take off my family put it here my xQNdIZaX98I-00465-00289104-00289775 family runs the whole yeah right don't xQNdIZaX98I-00466-00289776-00289967 use this flame for any other reason but xQNdIZaX98I-00467-00289968-00290432 man I don't like because nothing gonna xQNdIZaX98I-00468-00290433-00290690 happen me now xQNdIZaX98I-00469-00290691-00290960 because they killed America telling you xQNdIZaX98I-00470-00290961-00291250 the committee taking it to one cheap xQNdIZaX98I-00471-00291251-00291458 anything go ahead and pick up Rita xQNdIZaX98I-00472-00291459-00291758 Kristen but he's gonna fight it by this xQNdIZaX98I-00473-00291759-00292100 one that they are convinced put on they xQNdIZaX98I-00474-00292101-00292562 can deal with the one day good and you xQNdIZaX98I-00475-00292563-00292721 say pretty people good cheese ones have xQNdIZaX98I-00476-00292722-00293012 your brother lovely talk to pull your xQNdIZaX98I-00477-00293013-00293219 empty and you said it brings people xQNdIZaX98I-00478-00293220-00293282 together xQNdIZaX98I-00479-00293283-00293795 test your Harsha me you to the next I'm xQNdIZaX98I-00480-00293796-00294167 on a Peter on YouTube cuz it's xQNdIZaX98I-00481-00294168-00294467 free and I got massive appeal and well xQNdIZaX98I-00482-00294468-00295295 this one day okay whoa whoa whoa okay xQNdIZaX98I-00483-00295296-00295841 Mia I talked to all these native there xQNdIZaX98I-00484-00295842-00296135 was no Larry will in a continued pray xQNdIZaX98I-00485-00296136-00296513 after a 945 they make the men were they xQNdIZaX98I-00486-00296514-00296747 owned the Mary would and all the zombies xQNdIZaX98I-00487-00296748-00297013 with the work there to the air mass xQNdIZaX98I-00488-00297014-00297452 because copyright pick belong to the xQNdIZaX98I-00489-00297453-00297932 pink not the key you see choose your xQNdIZaX98I-00490-00297933-00298211 words white otherwise backfire xQNdIZaX98I-00491-00298212-00298532 We Need to Talk Mary you're talking for xQNdIZaX98I-00492-00298533-00298802 this when you talk now I your talk was xQNdIZaX98I-00493-00298803-00299228 ever choose which child faith see all xQNdIZaX98I-00494-00299229-00299485 right don't you xQNdIZaX98I-00495-00299486-00299981 it's a king's play he's here xQNdIZaX98I-00496-00299982-00301198 yeah xQNdIZaX98I-00497-00301199-00302300 why I did one throughout my way to xQNdIZaX98I-00498-00302301-00302483 remove an orphan like when they get xQNdIZaX98I-00499-00302484-00303026 costly Tecmo watch and observe what I'm xQNdIZaX98I-00500-00303027-00303425 used with messing of people around the xQNdIZaX98I-00501-00303426-00303673 world that's affected by the same thing xQNdIZaX98I-00502-00303674-00303956 display as ruin or world xQNdIZaX98I-00503-00303957-00304328 it blew them up it's a warfare it's not xQNdIZaX98I-00504-00304329-00304511 a declaration of independence it's a war xQNdIZaX98I-00505-00304512-00305374 way to make money in the bank that's it xQNdIZaX98I-00506-00305375-00305662 yo if you find what you're saying is xQNdIZaX98I-00507-00305663-00305951 football saying go under the flag okay xQNdIZaX98I-00508-00305952-00306326 my follow your cycle is a more I keep in xQNdIZaX98I-00509-00306327-00306524 my Kryptonian working xQNdIZaX98I-00510-00306525-00306800 nevertheless the interpretation I'm xQNdIZaX98I-00511-00306801-00307082 saying I'm sorry--but king in place of xQNdIZaX98I-00512-00307083-00307256 the thing on holiday and I'm doing his xQNdIZaX98I-00513-00307257-00307310 job xQNdIZaX98I-00514-00307311-00307504 until somebody puts a king in England xQNdIZaX98I-00515-00307505-00307889 they gots dignity and we are his xQNdIZaX98I-00516-00307890-00308150 contractor partner to do what we won xQNdIZaX98I-00517-00308151-00308426 with the documents okay I'm acting King xQNdIZaX98I-00518-00308427-00308927 on paper pizza paper not the pen xQNdIZaX98I-00519-00308928-00309365 you're a mother mother to buy a sofa to xQNdIZaX98I-00520-00309366-00309635 run below so you don't announce the king xQNdIZaX98I-00521-00309636-00310010 who was made by the people whispers xQNdIZaX98I-00522-00310011-00310304 chooses the king the witness about my xQNdIZaX98I-00523-00310305-00310505 man whispers bothered to read lately xQNdIZaX98I-00524-00310506-00310799 yeah and take our truck back some honey xQNdIZaX98I-00525-00310800-00311132 from Queen Victoria its own Lisa with xQNdIZaX98I-00526-00311133-00311525 key told us it would not King Edward nod xQNdIZaX98I-00527-00311526-00311870 and Victoria that's his book but the xQNdIZaX98I-00528-00311871-00312320 needs of people in Marissa they did for xQNdIZaX98I-00529-00312321-00312710 people what we do for you for this I xQNdIZaX98I-00530-00312711-00312911 could you have a change this way xQNdIZaX98I-00531-00312912-00313094 take a look about the same it's not xQNdIZaX98I-00532-00313095-00313391 slagging so because of that we learn the xQNdIZaX98I-00533-00313392-00313631 more teachings with you no way they've xQNdIZaX98I-00534-00313632-00314094 got another contract with me xQNdIZaX98I-00535-00314095-00314475 mr. perfectly bang nothing oh yeah this xQNdIZaX98I-00536-00314476-00314718 is a plan to go free peasantry well they xQNdIZaX98I-00537-00314719-00314907 know that but they've been interpreting xQNdIZaX98I-00538-00314908-00315045 the land xQNdIZaX98I-00539-00315046-00315408 don't wiggle no legal they've got no xQNdIZaX98I-00540-00315409-00315600 legal moral in it nothing xQNdIZaX98I-00541-00315601-00315978 good work with booth use what I can cook xQNdIZaX98I-00542-00315979-00316290 with one my case on what machine is xQNdIZaX98I-00543-00316291-00316797 people saying you come back with nothing xQNdIZaX98I-00544-00316798-00317031 now the best fourth quarter he says no xQNdIZaX98I-00545-00317032-00317319 but I asked you this on my yeah alright xQNdIZaX98I-00546-00317320-00317421 if I can't do it xQNdIZaX98I-00547-00317422-00317817 it's bad failure and I learn I like what xQNdIZaX98I-00548-00317818-00318351 the witness of except or not so I'll do xQNdIZaX98I-00549-00318352-00318660 and if I lose with my phone not invite xQNdIZaX98I-00550-00318661-00319092 it is that move on to Tyler pity none of xQNdIZaX98I-00551-00319093-00319482 nothing to do 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xStKB_OQFic-00076-00089224-00090747 [Music] xTfWJD66kFy-00000-00000006-00000224 the purpose of the present never xTfWJD66kFy-00001-00000225-00000512 presents itself in the present what we xTfWJD66kFy-00002-00000513-00000692 do now what we go through what we xTfWJD66kFy-00003-00000693-00000928 experience what we witness what avenues xTfWJD66kFy-00004-00000930-00001331 we pave always achieve some purpose that xTfWJD66kFy-00005-00001332-00001603 we can't see in the here and now so xTfWJD66kFy-00006-00001604-00001814 never judge the present according to the xTfWJD66kFy-00007-00001814-00002092 present if you do you will always be xTfWJD66kFy-00008-00002093-00002408 confused and frustrated one of the best xTfWJD66kFy-00009-00002409-00002615 ways through the quagmire of the present xTfWJD66kFy-00010-00002616-00002879 is to look for what you learn how you xTfWJD66kFy-00011-00002880-00003166 grow as a person learning things xTfWJD66kFy-00012-00003167-00003361 witnessing the unthinkable gaining xTfWJD66kFy-00013-00003363-00003778 skills going places these prepare us xTfWJD66kFy-00014-00003779-00004166 that's worthwhile enough and that's the xTfWJD66kFy-00015-00004167-00004682 point I'm Jesse Steele Jesse Steele calm xTtFwVPCOe8-00000-00000079-00000262 all right great and i should introduce xTtFwVPCOe8-00001-00000263-00000438 uh super tap mary medical college i'm xTtFwVPCOe8-00002-00000440-00000603 the director of informatics and i'm a xTtFwVPCOe8-00003-00000604-00000902 co-chair of the anvil ecc uh my favorite xTtFwVPCOe8-00004-00000903-00001166 band is nirvana and um uh i think i've xTtFwVPCOe8-00005-00001167-00001358 cut into some time so uh we'll get some xTtFwVPCOe8-00006-00001359-00001566 presentations from brian o'connor from xTtFwVPCOe8-00007-00001567-00001767 the road and then from fred tan from xTtFwVPCOe8-00008-00001768-00001918 carnegie who's also the one of the xTtFwVPCOe8-00009-00001919-00002183 senior project managers on anvil so um xTtFwVPCOe8-00010-00002184-00002334 why don't we just go ahead and cut to xTtFwVPCOe8-00011-00002335-00002671 that so uh brian ryan xTtFwVPCOe8-00012-00002672-00002847 yeah actually i think that was a cover xTtFwVPCOe8-00013-00002848-00003055 slide from the previous present uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00014-00003056-00003191 previous uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00015-00003192-00003335 sessions so xTtFwVPCOe8-00016-00003336-00003559 i'm sorry jeff yes yes please xTtFwVPCOe8-00017-00003560-00003822 yeah yeah no worries no worries um xTtFwVPCOe8-00018-00003823-00003975 so yes i'm very happy to tell you about xTtFwVPCOe8-00019-00003976-00004183 outreach and training it's um a xTtFwVPCOe8-00020-00004184-00004343 particular passion of us on the anvil xTtFwVPCOe8-00021-00004344-00004535 project and i am excited to tell you xTtFwVPCOe8-00022-00004536-00004695 what we've been up to as you heard xTtFwVPCOe8-00023-00004696-00004799 earlier xTtFwVPCOe8-00024-00004800-00004959 there's a lot of sort of excitement xTtFwVPCOe8-00025-00004960-00005143 around the anvil and then there's a lot xTtFwVPCOe8-00026-00005144-00005263 of questions around how do we get it xTtFwVPCOe8-00027-00005264-00005422 into people's hands so the next slide xTtFwVPCOe8-00028-00005423-00005638 please xTtFwVPCOe8-00029-00005639-00005767 so a little outline i'm going to talk xTtFwVPCOe8-00030-00005768-00005934 about our mission and then i'm going to xTtFwVPCOe8-00031-00005935-00006070 hand it over to our colleague my xTtFwVPCOe8-00032-00006071-00006270 colleague tiffany from broad institute xTtFwVPCOe8-00033-00006271-00006439 to talk about awareness and asynchronous xTtFwVPCOe8-00034-00006440-00006567 support and then i'll come back and tell xTtFwVPCOe8-00035-00006568-00006678 you a little bit about some of the other xTtFwVPCOe8-00036-00006679-00006934 support we're doing and the goals for xTtFwVPCOe8-00037-00006936-00007119 our outreach group for the future so xTtFwVPCOe8-00038-00007120-00007278 next slide xTtFwVPCOe8-00039-00007279-00007439 so our mission is really to develop xTtFwVPCOe8-00040-00007440-00007639 scalable training support and incentives xTtFwVPCOe8-00041-00007640-00007839 to make it easier for the scientific and xTtFwVPCOe8-00042-00007840-00008070 community to adopt and use the ample xTtFwVPCOe8-00043-00008072-00008263 platform i mean the real incentive is to xTtFwVPCOe8-00044-00008264-00008446 try to get people to use a cloud-based xTtFwVPCOe8-00045-00008447-00008599 tool that's really helpful for xTtFwVPCOe8-00046-00008600-00008783 democratizing access but can be a little xTtFwVPCOe8-00047-00008784-00008935 intimidating when you're moving from xTtFwVPCOe8-00048-00008936-00009110 using computers on your laptop to using xTtFwVPCOe8-00049-00009111-00009287 computers on the cloud xTtFwVPCOe8-00050-00009288-00009478 next slide xTtFwVPCOe8-00051-00009479-00009663 so the hope is if we build it then xTtFwVPCOe8-00052-00009664-00009878 people will come and use this tool and xTtFwVPCOe8-00053-00009879-00010095 get excited about it and and use it but xTtFwVPCOe8-00054-00010096-00010199 but we know that there's going to be xTtFwVPCOe8-00055-00010200-00010319 some challenges we know that it's xTtFwVPCOe8-00056-00010320-00010503 actually kind of not just that we can xTtFwVPCOe8-00057-00010504-00010646 build it and that people will easily xTtFwVPCOe8-00058-00010647-00010967 show up next slide xTtFwVPCOe8-00059-00010968-00011127 there are many amazing things you've xTtFwVPCOe8-00060-00011128-00011278 heard about a lot of them earlier today xTtFwVPCOe8-00061-00011279-00011455 there's data sets you can't get anywhere xTtFwVPCOe8-00062-00011456-00011631 else there's computing power to do xTtFwVPCOe8-00063-00011632-00011855 everything from r to python to galaxy xTtFwVPCOe8-00064-00011856-00012127 you can share analyses quite easily xTtFwVPCOe8-00065-00012128-00012270 and you can scale up analyses i'm xTtFwVPCOe8-00066-00012271-00012446 showing a graph here of mic renting more xTtFwVPCOe8-00067-00012447-00012623 computers than it makes me sweat just xTtFwVPCOe8-00068-00012624-00012863 looking at that graph um and so those xTtFwVPCOe8-00069-00012863-00013063 are all incredible aspects of it next xTtFwVPCOe8-00070-00013063-00013199 slide xTtFwVPCOe8-00071-00013200-00013399 so yes it's extremely exciting we're xTtFwVPCOe8-00072-00013400-00013566 super pumped up about it but then xTtFwVPCOe8-00073-00013568-00013711 there's some challenges too so next xTtFwVPCOe8-00074-00013712-00013838 slide xTtFwVPCOe8-00075-00013840-00014022 so there's some barriers to adoption so xTtFwVPCOe8-00076-00014023-00014199 making people aware of anvil and its xTtFwVPCOe8-00077-00014200-00014463 capabilities overcoming hurdles like xTtFwVPCOe8-00078-00014463-00014647 nervousness about billing and security xTtFwVPCOe8-00079-00014647-00014815 and really a new way of thinking when xTtFwVPCOe8-00080-00014816-00014966 you're working on the cloud xTtFwVPCOe8-00081-00014968-00015135 training people to use the cloud how to xTtFwVPCOe8-00082-00015136-00015303 manage people on this infrastructure how xTtFwVPCOe8-00083-00015304-00015503 to manage data it's a lot for people to xTtFwVPCOe8-00084-00015504-00015679 learn and then providing support to xTtFwVPCOe8-00085-00015680-00015863 diverse communities because we think the xTtFwVPCOe8-00086-00015863-00016055 real power of a tool like this is that xTtFwVPCOe8-00087-00016056-00016286 its ability to democratize access to xTtFwVPCOe8-00088-00016287-00016399 computing xTtFwVPCOe8-00089-00016400-00016575 and genomics for a much larger xTtFwVPCOe8-00090-00016576-00016743 cross-section of researchers around the xTtFwVPCOe8-00091-00016744-00016935 us and new researchers and students and xTtFwVPCOe8-00092-00016936-00017207 everyone else next slide xTtFwVPCOe8-00093-00017208-00017335 so we don't want people thinking like xTtFwVPCOe8-00094-00017336-00017511 this frustrated at their computer when xTtFwVPCOe8-00095-00017512-00017663 they're trying to figure out how to use xTtFwVPCOe8-00096-00017664-00017822 these new cloud computing tools and so a xTtFwVPCOe8-00097-00017823-00018007 lot of our work is to try to xTtFwVPCOe8-00098-00018008-00018247 make it easy for people to use xTtFwVPCOe8-00099-00018248-00018447 amble is renting computers it's sort of xTtFwVPCOe8-00100-00018448-00018599 you're out there trying to sort of xTtFwVPCOe8-00101-00018600-00018886 select um you know use computers in a xTtFwVPCOe8-00102-00018887-00019030 way that's very different than what xTtFwVPCOe8-00103-00019031-00019191 people usually do they buy a computer xTtFwVPCOe8-00104-00019192-00019375 and then they just use it with cloud xTtFwVPCOe8-00105-00019376-00019527 computing you rent a computer over a xTtFwVPCOe8-00106-00019528-00019686 period of time so it's kind of a xTtFwVPCOe8-00107-00019687-00019830 stressful thing for people who aren't xTtFwVPCOe8-00108-00019831-00020183 used to that to start next slide xTtFwVPCOe8-00109-00020184-00020414 so our team for outreach so far has been xTtFwVPCOe8-00110-00020415-00020599 consisted of two groups a centralized xTtFwVPCOe8-00111-00020600-00020799 group that does user research content xTtFwVPCOe8-00112-00020800-00020991 development some funding support things xTtFwVPCOe8-00113-00020992-00021086 like that i'm going to tell you about a xTtFwVPCOe8-00114-00021087-00021327 lot of that too and then a decentralized xTtFwVPCOe8-00115-00021328-00021486 team that incorporates the training xTtFwVPCOe8-00116-00021487-00021711 groups of bioconductor galaxy the bro xTtFwVPCOe8-00117-00021712-00021958 institute and tara to basically support xTtFwVPCOe8-00118-00021959-00022167 a really broad cross-section of users xTtFwVPCOe8-00119-00022168-00022358 who are trying to move on to this cloud xTtFwVPCOe8-00120-00022359-00022575 computing platform and get excited about xTtFwVPCOe8-00121-00022576-00022639 it xTtFwVPCOe8-00122-00022640-00022822 next slide xTtFwVPCOe8-00123-00022823-00023078 so i'm gonna now go a little bit to our xTtFwVPCOe8-00124-00023079-00023358 uh approach um and i'm gonna hand it off xTtFwVPCOe8-00125-00023359-00023663 here i think on the next slide to uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00126-00023664-00023878 uh tiffany who's gonna take over xTtFwVPCOe8-00127-00023879-00024150 um to talk about a little bit of the xTtFwVPCOe8-00128-00024151-00024278 first part of our activities and i'll xTtFwVPCOe8-00129-00024279-00024503 hand it over to you tiffany xTtFwVPCOe8-00130-00024504-00024839 great thanks so much jeff okay so yeah i xTtFwVPCOe8-00131-00024840-00025199 will go ahead and start talking about xTtFwVPCOe8-00132-00025200-00025503 the activities for training so they are xTtFwVPCOe8-00133-00025504-00025694 modeled after the seizure acquisition xTtFwVPCOe8-00134-00025695-00025870 funnel on the slide xTtFwVPCOe8-00135-00025872-00026127 going from awareness to loyalty and so xTtFwVPCOe8-00136-00026127-00026351 i'll start with awareness and then xTtFwVPCOe8-00137-00026352-00026487 asynchronous support and then i'm going xTtFwVPCOe8-00138-00026488-00026711 to pass it on to jeff to finish off next xTtFwVPCOe8-00139-00026712-00026895 slide please xTtFwVPCOe8-00140-00026895-00027095 okay so awareness xTtFwVPCOe8-00141-00027095-00027423 so we need to make sure that people can xTtFwVPCOe8-00142-00027424-00027687 find out about about anvil and the xTtFwVPCOe8-00143-00027688-00027814 ecosystem xTtFwVPCOe8-00144-00027816-00027999 next slide please xTtFwVPCOe8-00145-00028000-00028190 so there's a few approaches to doing xTtFwVPCOe8-00146-00028191-00028431 this and one approach obviously is xTtFwVPCOe8-00147-00028432-00028783 through blogs and uh pushing uh pushing xTtFwVPCOe8-00148-00028783-00029046 that content out to people so this is xTtFwVPCOe8-00149-00029047-00029374 just a quick table of uh blog posts that xTtFwVPCOe8-00150-00029375-00029535 were specifically about anvil and xTtFwVPCOe8-00151-00029536-00029695 highlighting different feature features xTtFwVPCOe8-00152-00029695-00030023 of anvil from territory bio and xTtFwVPCOe8-00153-00030024-00030351 basically the terra team has this blog xTtFwVPCOe8-00154-00030352-00030599 and it reaches wide a wide community of xTtFwVPCOe8-00155-00030600-00030823 folks for from the terra communities and xTtFwVPCOe8-00156-00030824-00031135 anvil communities and just wanted to to xTtFwVPCOe8-00157-00031136-00031246 provide xTtFwVPCOe8-00158-00031247-00031431 some some view numbers here too so you xTtFwVPCOe8-00159-00031432-00031670 can kind of see um see what that looks xTtFwVPCOe8-00160-00031672-00031774 like xTtFwVPCOe8-00161-00031775-00032046 and i'll just point out that xTtFwVPCOe8-00162-00032047-00032231 the most popular one was about our xTtFwVPCOe8-00163-00032232-00032502 studio and within that blog post there xTtFwVPCOe8-00164-00032503-00032751 was a demo of using our studio with xTtFwVPCOe8-00165-00032752-00032951 bioconductor xTtFwVPCOe8-00166-00032952-00033183 and anvil powered by tara and then you xTtFwVPCOe8-00167-00033184-00033446 can see also two other blog posts xTtFwVPCOe8-00168-00033447-00033695 announcing galaxy xTtFwVPCOe8-00169-00033696-00034015 the last blog post was about uh was xTtFwVPCOe8-00170-00034016-00034183 actually a guest blog post from dr xTtFwVPCOe8-00171-00034184-00034439 martin morgan about bioconductor and the xTtFwVPCOe8-00172-00034440-00034646 anvil our package and why we need the xTtFwVPCOe8-00173-00034647-00034959 anvilar package so um they're great xTtFwVPCOe8-00174-00034960-00035239 posts for announcing what's happening xTtFwVPCOe8-00175-00035240-00035511 next slide please xTtFwVPCOe8-00176-00035512-00035774 another awareness tool is using social xTtFwVPCOe8-00177-00035775-00036055 media so the anvil has an active twitter xTtFwVPCOe8-00178-00036056-00036190 presence and xTtFwVPCOe8-00179-00036191-00036383 the twitter is used to announce training xTtFwVPCOe8-00180-00036384-00036599 events and to make people aware of xTtFwVPCOe8-00181-00036600-00036735 awesome work that's being done on the xTtFwVPCOe8-00182-00036736-00037046 platform next slide xTtFwVPCOe8-00183-00037047-00037190 okay now i'm going to switch over to xTtFwVPCOe8-00184-00037191-00037367 asynchronous support xTtFwVPCOe8-00185-00037368-00037590 and next slide please thank you xTtFwVPCOe8-00186-00037591-00037687 so xTtFwVPCOe8-00187-00037688-00038046 now um you know you make users aware of xTtFwVPCOe8-00188-00038047-00038255 anvil they're getting started using xTtFwVPCOe8-00189-00038256-00038511 anvil they have questions and so xTtFwVPCOe8-00190-00038512-00038702 to kind of react to how to support the xTtFwVPCOe8-00191-00038703-00038990 ecosystem the anvil discourse page which xTtFwVPCOe8-00192-00038991-00039230 you can see here is a forum xTtFwVPCOe8-00193-00039231-00039607 was created to to help um uh you know xTtFwVPCOe8-00194-00039608-00039823 get get answers to users in a scalable xTtFwVPCOe8-00195-00039824-00040118 way so basically it's like a other xTtFwVPCOe8-00196-00040119-00040327 forums or you know users can connect xTtFwVPCOe8-00197-00040328-00040511 with each other they can see each other xTtFwVPCOe8-00198-00040512-00040679 using anvil they can answer each other's xTtFwVPCOe8-00199-00040680-00040951 questions and the idea here is to to xTtFwVPCOe8-00200-00040952-00041183 help scale support with a small team xTtFwVPCOe8-00201-00041184-00041383 next slide please xTtFwVPCOe8-00202-00041384-00041639 so there's also um actually when you're xTtFwVPCOe8-00203-00041640-00041871 using anvil powered by tara xTtFwVPCOe8-00204-00041872-00042055 there's also other channels that you can xTtFwVPCOe8-00205-00042056-00042351 use too for for help there's an in-app xTtFwVPCOe8-00206-00042352-00042639 widget that you can use to contact us xTtFwVPCOe8-00207-00042640-00042918 module essentially where you can send um xTtFwVPCOe8-00208-00042919-00043079 you know questions about the workspace xTtFwVPCOe8-00209-00043080-00043223 you're working on right there in a xTtFwVPCOe8-00210-00043224-00043535 screenshot and so there's also a forum xTtFwVPCOe8-00211-00043536-00043758 available uh from the portal anvil xTtFwVPCOe8-00212-00043759-00043935 powered by tara for very terrorist xTtFwVPCOe8-00213-00043936-00044118 specific questions and there's also xTtFwVPCOe8-00214-00044119-00044295 email if people are shy and don't want xTtFwVPCOe8-00215-00044296-00044502 to post their questions publicly xTtFwVPCOe8-00216-00044503-00044702 the next slide please xTtFwVPCOe8-00217-00044703-00044879 okay so we just talked about kind of how xTtFwVPCOe8-00218-00044880-00045046 people can get support but also xTtFwVPCOe8-00219-00045047-00045302 asynchronous support means you know xTtFwVPCOe8-00220-00045303-00045535 people want to onboard you know self xTtFwVPCOe8-00221-00045536-00045702 service they don't want to have to to xTtFwVPCOe8-00222-00045703-00045887 necessarily like talk to somebody to xTtFwVPCOe8-00223-00045888-00046223 learn how to do something so um through xTtFwVPCOe8-00224-00046224-00046302 uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00225-00046303-00046527 through providing persona-oriented xTtFwVPCOe8-00226-00046528-00046823 training materials um that is a way to xTtFwVPCOe8-00227-00046824-00046999 kind of minimize the noise among all the xTtFwVPCOe8-00228-00047000-00047230 training materials and develop things xTtFwVPCOe8-00229-00047231-00047462 that are specific for each persona so we xTtFwVPCOe8-00230-00047463-00047743 see pis analyst consortia teachers next xTtFwVPCOe8-00231-00047744-00047886 slide please xTtFwVPCOe8-00232-00047887-00048158 and one really great example xTtFwVPCOe8-00233-00048159-00048430 of a persona driven xTtFwVPCOe8-00234-00048431-00048623 pieces of documentation xTtFwVPCOe8-00235-00048624-00048862 you can see here are the budget status xTtFwVPCOe8-00236-00048863-00049079 budget justification templates and the xTtFwVPCOe8-00237-00049080-00049318 anvil cost estimator so those are made xTtFwVPCOe8-00238-00049319-00049567 available in the investigators section xTtFwVPCOe8-00239-00049568-00049855 and investigators can you know adapt xTtFwVPCOe8-00240-00049856-00050111 these materials and actually people xTtFwVPCOe8-00241-00050112-00050415 really like them and and the nih cloud xTtFwVPCOe8-00242-00050416-00050639 platforms are interested in making these xTtFwVPCOe8-00243-00050640-00050871 more accessible as well and jeff is xTtFwVPCOe8-00244-00050872-00051030 going to actually talk more about the xTtFwVPCOe8-00245-00051031-00051375 anvil getting started guide 1.0 and some xTtFwVPCOe8-00246-00051376-00051582 other upcoming materials that are xTtFwVPCOe8-00247-00051583-00051807 getting planned for self-service so with xTtFwVPCOe8-00248-00051808-00052046 that i will next slide pass it on to xTtFwVPCOe8-00249-00052047-00052175 jeff xTtFwVPCOe8-00250-00052176-00052399 awesome great thanks very much um next xTtFwVPCOe8-00251-00052400-00052559 slide xTtFwVPCOe8-00252-00052560-00052750 um so we have been developing an xTtFwVPCOe8-00253-00052751-00052903 educational technology platform for a xTtFwVPCOe8-00254-00052904-00053103 while at johns hopkins in part supported xTtFwVPCOe8-00255-00053104-00053326 by animal that basically allows us to xTtFwVPCOe8-00256-00053327-00053479 create open source content in the same xTtFwVPCOe8-00257-00053479-00053638 way that you do sort of agile software xTtFwVPCOe8-00258-00053639-00053775 development and then publish it in xTtFwVPCOe8-00259-00053776-00053950 multiple places on the web and through xTtFwVPCOe8-00260-00053951-00054111 various different massive online open xTtFwVPCOe8-00261-00054112-00054303 core platforms so that people can we get xTtFwVPCOe8-00262-00054304-00054479 the maximum impact for the course xTtFwVPCOe8-00263-00054479-00054654 content that we develop for asynchronous xTtFwVPCOe8-00264-00054655-00054879 learning next slide please xTtFwVPCOe8-00265-00054879-00055079 so we started off by developing an anvil xTtFwVPCOe8-00266-00055079-00055326 getting started guide 1.0 it's available xTtFwVPCOe8-00267-00055327-00055526 right now at this url it's also being xTtFwVPCOe8-00268-00055527-00055679 integrated into the portal with xTtFwVPCOe8-00269-00055679-00055838 collaboration with the portal team that xTtFwVPCOe8-00270-00055839-00056007 basically helps people get started and xTtFwVPCOe8-00271-00056008-00056175 all the hard stuff you know getting your xTtFwVPCOe8-00272-00056176-00056342 billing account set up how to work with xTtFwVPCOe8-00273-00056344-00056535 workspaces and share data and things xTtFwVPCOe8-00274-00056536-00056711 like that so it's a really exciting xTtFwVPCOe8-00275-00056712-00056871 resource that's really targeted to xTtFwVPCOe8-00276-00056872-00057142 specific users that in their personas so xTtFwVPCOe8-00277-00057144-00057271 that they can figure out how to get up xTtFwVPCOe8-00278-00057272-00057438 to speed and get started as quickly as xTtFwVPCOe8-00279-00057439-00057679 possible next slide please xTtFwVPCOe8-00280-00057679-00057807 so then we also been providing xTtFwVPCOe8-00281-00057808-00058063 synchronous support next slide xTtFwVPCOe8-00282-00058064-00058150 we've xTtFwVPCOe8-00283-00058151-00058311 supported a large number of events it's xTtFwVPCOe8-00284-00058312-00058503 been uh despite our relatively small xTtFwVPCOe8-00285-00058504-00058663 like centralized team we have a pretty xTtFwVPCOe8-00286-00058664-00058919 big and distributed uh decentralized xTtFwVPCOe8-00287-00058920-00059150 outreach group and so we presented at a xTtFwVPCOe8-00288-00059151-00059399 wide variety of conferences and uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00289-00059400-00059638 events and provided synchronous sort of xTtFwVPCOe8-00290-00059639-00059750 activities so that people can xTtFwVPCOe8-00291-00059751-00059871 participate xTtFwVPCOe8-00292-00059872-00060094 um including the magic jamboree which we xTtFwVPCOe8-00293-00060095-00060230 hosted which was really successful and xTtFwVPCOe8-00294-00060232-00060375 had a number of consortium members xTtFwVPCOe8-00295-00060376-00060559 participate we have a bunch of events xTtFwVPCOe8-00296-00060560-00060759 planned for the upcoming year as well so xTtFwVPCOe8-00297-00060760-00061006 we're really exciting to to get really xTtFwVPCOe8-00298-00061007-00061326 interactive with people next slide xTtFwVPCOe8-00299-00061327-00061503 we also have anvil office hours which xTtFwVPCOe8-00300-00061504-00061671 we've initiated which basically gives xTtFwVPCOe8-00301-00061672-00061806 people an opportunity to show up and xTtFwVPCOe8-00302-00061807-00061950 talk to the animal outreach chain xTtFwVPCOe8-00303-00061951-00062111 directly ask their questions get them xTtFwVPCOe8-00304-00062112-00062279 responded to with a bunch of experts on xTtFwVPCOe8-00305-00062279-00062447 a zoom call all at once so it's a lot xTtFwVPCOe8-00306-00062448-00062630 more quick and easy response if you're xTtFwVPCOe8-00307-00062632-00062766 sort of a little nervous about xTtFwVPCOe8-00308-00062767-00062975 asynchronous sort of support xTtFwVPCOe8-00309-00062976-00063142 so this is a great opportunity and we're xTtFwVPCOe8-00310-00063144-00063282 highlighting it on xTtFwVPCOe8-00311-00063283-00063423 help.animalproject.org which is the xTtFwVPCOe8-00312-00063424-00063566 community that we've been building to xTtFwVPCOe8-00313-00063567-00063766 try to get people excited about anvil xTtFwVPCOe8-00314-00063767-00063966 and so you can if you sort of go to that xTtFwVPCOe8-00315-00063967-00064103 website you'll be able to find out when xTtFwVPCOe8-00316-00064104-00064375 we announce these anvil office hours xTtFwVPCOe8-00317-00064376-00064482 next xTtFwVPCOe8-00318-00064483-00064726 slide and we also give some tailored xTtFwVPCOe8-00319-00064727-00064894 support to very specific communities in xTtFwVPCOe8-00320-00064895-00065103 order to try to build bridges and and xTtFwVPCOe8-00321-00065104-00065406 sort of support a more democratic asset xTtFwVPCOe8-00322-00065407-00065647 access to cloud computing so one of xTtFwVPCOe8-00323-00065648-00065847 those is through this ac2 program the xTtFwVPCOe8-00324-00065848-00066126 ac2 program is a cloud computing credits xTtFwVPCOe8-00325-00066127-00066279 program that's been administered by the xTtFwVPCOe8-00326-00066280-00066487 outreach team um with some external xTtFwVPCOe8-00327-00066488-00066647 reviewers who have provided a lot of xTtFwVPCOe8-00328-00066648-00066871 assistance and they selected a number of xTtFwVPCOe8-00329-00066872-00067079 pilot projects that got cloud credit so xTtFwVPCOe8-00330-00067080-00067223 that they could get onto the anvil and xTtFwVPCOe8-00331-00067224-00067367 not have to put their own credit card xTtFwVPCOe8-00332-00067368-00067503 down and could actually start trying it xTtFwVPCOe8-00333-00067504-00067694 out and doing some really cool science xTtFwVPCOe8-00334-00067695-00067838 these are some of the examples of the xTtFwVPCOe8-00335-00067839-00068006 projects but that program is scheduled xTtFwVPCOe8-00336-00068007-00068199 to sort of scale up and provide us more xTtFwVPCOe8-00337-00068200-00068359 opportunities to get people onto the xTtFwVPCOe8-00338-00068360-00068526 platform since billing is usually one of xTtFwVPCOe8-00339-00068527-00068687 those sort of big barriers for people xTtFwVPCOe8-00340-00068688-00068926 joining onto a cloud platform this is a xTtFwVPCOe8-00341-00068927-00069135 cool way to sort of move people onto the xTtFwVPCOe8-00342-00069136-00069294 platform without having to worry about xTtFwVPCOe8-00343-00069295-00069494 that sort of stress xTtFwVPCOe8-00344-00069495-00069694 and we plan to think of creative ways to xTtFwVPCOe8-00345-00069695-00070015 support that going forward next slide xTtFwVPCOe8-00346-00070016-00070111 we also have been working with this xTtFwVPCOe8-00347-00070112-00070279 genomic the science community network xTtFwVPCOe8-00348-00070280-00070399 which you've heard a little bit about xTtFwVPCOe8-00349-00070400-00070535 this is something that we're really xTtFwVPCOe8-00350-00070536-00070767 excited about um this is i think really xTtFwVPCOe8-00351-00070768-00070959 illustrates in a real way the power of xTtFwVPCOe8-00352-00070960-00071143 something like the anvil we have a xTtFwVPCOe8-00353-00071144-00071319 number of colleagues and collaborators xTtFwVPCOe8-00354-00071320-00071550 at institutions all over the u.s who are xTtFwVPCOe8-00355-00071551-00071743 outstanding scientists and biologists xTtFwVPCOe8-00356-00071744-00071919 and computer scientists who are we're xTtFwVPCOe8-00357-00071920-00072135 working with to develop curricula from xTtFwVPCOe8-00358-00072136-00072350 them you know developed by them that we xTtFwVPCOe8-00359-00072351-00072526 can share and support students as they xTtFwVPCOe8-00360-00072527-00072759 grow genomic data science at a variety xTtFwVPCOe8-00361-00072760-00072935 of institutions not just the hopkins and xTtFwVPCOe8-00362-00072936-00073087 the broads of the world and so it's xTtFwVPCOe8-00363-00073088-00073279 really exciting to see what's going on xTtFwVPCOe8-00364-00073280-00073535 with that next slide please xTtFwVPCOe8-00365-00073536-00073743 so that that uh has had its kickoff xTtFwVPCOe8-00366-00073744-00073894 meeting and its first symposium and xTtFwVPCOe8-00367-00073895-00074047 we're working on the second symposium xTtFwVPCOe8-00368-00074048-00074206 now and it's been a super high energy xTtFwVPCOe8-00369-00074207-00074343 event so there's some people on call xTtFwVPCOe8-00370-00074344-00074479 here today that are participating in xTtFwVPCOe8-00371-00074480-00074671 that and it's just been super fun just a xTtFwVPCOe8-00372-00074672-00075215 really great group of people next slide xTtFwVPCOe8-00373-00075216-00075375 oops is it xTtFwVPCOe8-00374-00075376-00075559 advancing for other people okay and xTtFwVPCOe8-00375-00075560-00075806 they're doing user research next slide xTtFwVPCOe8-00376-00075807-00076023 so we're collecting data and analyzing xTtFwVPCOe8-00377-00076024-00076206 the data about who's using the anvil on xTtFwVPCOe8-00378-00076207-00076406 anvil and so that's kind of a meta xTtFwVPCOe8-00379-00076407-00076623 approach to user research but it's xTtFwVPCOe8-00380-00076624-00076799 giving us opportunities to discover what xTtFwVPCOe8-00381-00076800-00076926 are the different ways that tools are xTtFwVPCOe8-00382-00076927-00077143 being used and how to support them next xTtFwVPCOe8-00383-00077144-00077294 slide xTtFwVPCOe8-00384-00077295-00077438 and we're also doing what we call deep xTtFwVPCOe8-00385-00077439-00077591 pilots which is working individually xTtFwVPCOe8-00386-00077592-00077719 with individual researchers and xTtFwVPCOe8-00387-00077720-00077887 educators to figure out what are their xTtFwVPCOe8-00388-00077888-00078126 pain points as they try the platform out xTtFwVPCOe8-00389-00078127-00078271 what are the things that are stressing xTtFwVPCOe8-00390-00078272-00078382 them out what are the things that make xTtFwVPCOe8-00391-00078383-00078519 it easy or hard for them to use the xTtFwVPCOe8-00392-00078520-00078687 platform and collecting data on that xTtFwVPCOe8-00393-00078688-00078982 qualitatively next slide xTtFwVPCOe8-00394-00078983-00079159 and so our goal in the future going xTtFwVPCOe8-00395-00079160-00079335 forward is to build a big happy diverse xTtFwVPCOe8-00396-00079336-00079519 vibrant anvil user community that helps xTtFwVPCOe8-00397-00079520-00079647 each other out supports each other xTtFwVPCOe8-00398-00079648-00079738 through xTtFwVPCOe8-00399-00079739-00079926 help.animal.project.org and also can use xTtFwVPCOe8-00400-00079927-00080103 the platform to do a whole host of xTtFwVPCOe8-00401-00080104-00080271 things that you couldn't do before next xTtFwVPCOe8-00402-00080272-00080438 slide xTtFwVPCOe8-00403-00080439-00080623 and so just looking a little bit towards xTtFwVPCOe8-00404-00080624-00080759 the future we're trying to think of how xTtFwVPCOe8-00405-00080760-00080911 do we actually xTtFwVPCOe8-00406-00080912-00081255 develop this sort of uh community of xTtFwVPCOe8-00407-00081256-00081391 people you know we've built this xTtFwVPCOe8-00408-00081392-00081550 incredible resource it's still getting xTtFwVPCOe8-00409-00081551-00081743 developed as it goes forward so we're xTtFwVPCOe8-00410-00081744-00081935 thinking about how do we scale up our xTtFwVPCOe8-00411-00081936-00082175 asynchronous support how do we scale up xTtFwVPCOe8-00412-00082176-00082447 our synchronous deep training efforts um xTtFwVPCOe8-00413-00082448-00082606 how do we continue to develop content xTtFwVPCOe8-00414-00082607-00082775 and tools that can support platform xTtFwVPCOe8-00415-00082776-00083031 changes the platform changes over time xTtFwVPCOe8-00416-00083032-00083271 and so uh you know we need to be able to xTtFwVPCOe8-00417-00083272-00083423 adapt our resources our training xTtFwVPCOe8-00418-00083424-00083606 resources to an adapting platform which xTtFwVPCOe8-00419-00083607-00083750 is obviously a big challenge and so xTtFwVPCOe8-00420-00083751-00083855 that's something we're thinking a lot xTtFwVPCOe8-00421-00083856-00084047 about with our edtech platform xTtFwVPCOe8-00422-00084048-00084182 and then build the anvil community xTtFwVPCOe8-00423-00084183-00084375 through gescn through our outreaches to xTtFwVPCOe8-00424-00084376-00084471 clinical xTtFwVPCOe8-00425-00084472-00084662 collaborations and working groups xTtFwVPCOe8-00426-00084663-00084823 through anvil discourse and through xTtFwVPCOe8-00427-00084824-00084967 bringing these different communities xTtFwVPCOe8-00428-00084968-00085111 together the galaxy community the xTtFwVPCOe8-00429-00085112-00085279 bioconductor community the terra xTtFwVPCOe8-00430-00085280-00085406 community xTtFwVPCOe8-00431-00085407-00085526 and then really one of the things that xTtFwVPCOe8-00432-00085527-00085687 we're most excited about for the future xTtFwVPCOe8-00433-00085688-00085855 is to really leverage our user research xTtFwVPCOe8-00434-00085856-00085991 the things we're identifying that are xTtFwVPCOe8-00435-00085992-00086143 pain points with the platform and really xTtFwVPCOe8-00436-00086144-00086294 feed that back in xTtFwVPCOe8-00437-00086295-00086535 to um improving the process for people xTtFwVPCOe8-00438-00086536-00086726 the user experience for people as they xTtFwVPCOe8-00439-00086727-00086903 adapt this platform you know it's an xTtFwVPCOe8-00440-00086904-00087182 incredible tool it has a lot of power to xTtFwVPCOe8-00441-00087183-00087382 it it's it's really an amazing xTtFwVPCOe8-00442-00087383-00087638 accomplishment what we've built but if xTtFwVPCOe8-00443-00087639-00087806 we can't make it really easy for users xTtFwVPCOe8-00444-00087807-00088062 to use uh to adopt and to use and to be xTtFwVPCOe8-00445-00088063-00088223 supported on then it will be a real xTtFwVPCOe8-00446-00088224-00088367 challenge to get for people and people xTtFwVPCOe8-00447-00088368-00088526 be frustrated as they get on so we're xTtFwVPCOe8-00448-00088527-00088750 really excited about trying to find ways xTtFwVPCOe8-00449-00088751-00088894 to leverage the things that we're xTtFwVPCOe8-00450-00088895-00089047 learning from our users to improve the xTtFwVPCOe8-00451-00089048-00089159 platform xTtFwVPCOe8-00452-00089160-00089423 and with that i think i will uh uh i xTtFwVPCOe8-00453-00089424-00089615 think we've done with our presentation xTtFwVPCOe8-00454-00089616-00090271 looking forward to the discussion xTtFwVPCOe8-00455-00090272-00090511 great uh thank you jeff and uh and xTtFwVPCOe8-00456-00090512-00090671 tiffany um xTtFwVPCOe8-00457-00090672-00090767 i think we're actually a little bit xTtFwVPCOe8-00458-00090768-00091055 ahead of time um so just let me uh um xTtFwVPCOe8-00459-00091056-00091223 most of us were in the previous uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00460-00091224-00091479 session so i think um rules are are xTtFwVPCOe8-00461-00091480-00091735 fairly uh well uh outlined but um we'll xTtFwVPCOe8-00462-00091736-00091959 spend about 10 minutes on each of the xTtFwVPCOe8-00463-00091960-00092062 swot xTtFwVPCOe8-00464-00092063-00092159 um xTtFwVPCOe8-00465-00092160-00092375 discussion topics and and certainly we xTtFwVPCOe8-00466-00092376-00092511 can you know xTtFwVPCOe8-00467-00092512-00092647 and match as we need xTtFwVPCOe8-00468-00092648-00092855 um if you go ahead and just raise your xTtFwVPCOe8-00469-00092856-00092943 hand xTtFwVPCOe8-00470-00092944-00093247 um you know as a primary and then um xTtFwVPCOe8-00471-00093248-00093382 everyone has the ability to commute as xTtFwVPCOe8-00472-00093383-00093671 well so i think um that said we will xTtFwVPCOe8-00473-00093672-00093855 probably just get into you know 10 xTtFwVPCOe8-00474-00093856-00094071 minutes to do strengths 10 for xTtFwVPCOe8-00475-00094072-00094311 weaknesses and so on so um i think we'll xTtFwVPCOe8-00476-00094312-00094487 just open up for that unless chris xTtFwVPCOe8-00477-00094488-00094615 there's anything else to do before we xTtFwVPCOe8-00478-00094616-00094847 get into swap xTtFwVPCOe8-00479-00094848-00095135 no we can um maybe ask the discussants xTtFwVPCOe8-00480-00095136-00095391 in particular to provide their thought xTtFwVPCOe8-00481-00095392-00095606 thoughts xTtFwVPCOe8-00482-00095607-00095782 great and i apologize did we miss any xTtFwVPCOe8-00483-00095783-00096038 discussions uh previously or or uh some xTtFwVPCOe8-00484-00096039-00096326 changes from from before uh if so please xTtFwVPCOe8-00485-00096327-00096511 yeah um xTtFwVPCOe8-00486-00096512-00096774 let me know that um otherwise we will uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00487-00096775-00096926 go ahead and go so why don't we start xTtFwVPCOe8-00488-00096927-00097055 with strengths xTtFwVPCOe8-00489-00097056-00097231 and um i think obviously there will be xTtFwVPCOe8-00490-00097232-00097406 some overlap from the previous session xTtFwVPCOe8-00491-00097407-00097582 because there's a lot of xTtFwVPCOe8-00492-00097583-00097806 uh overlap going on with with this uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00493-00097807-00097950 you know with these different um xTtFwVPCOe8-00494-00097951-00098062 functions xTtFwVPCOe8-00495-00098063-00098223 um but can we can we start with the xTtFwVPCOe8-00496-00098224-00098431 strengths of anvil perceived or xTtFwVPCOe8-00497-00098432-00099487 experienced from from this group xTtFwVPCOe8-00498-00099488-00099735 at xTtFwVPCOe8-00499-00099736-00099943 uh andrew go ahead and then and then xTtFwVPCOe8-00500-00099944-00100071 we'll get the bill xTtFwVPCOe8-00501-00100072-00100215 uh very quickly at risk of being xTtFwVPCOe8-00502-00100216-00100359 repetitive i was in a different group xTtFwVPCOe8-00503-00100360-00100535 prior and one of the big things that's xTtFwVPCOe8-00504-00100536-00100687 rather obvious you don't have to have xTtFwVPCOe8-00505-00100688-00100982 big outlays of money easy to just use a xTtFwVPCOe8-00506-00100983-00101131 cloud resource and uh the xTtFwVPCOe8-00507-00101132-00101350 democratization you can reach xTtFwVPCOe8-00508-00101351-00101494 the midwest the theme that came up in xTtFwVPCOe8-00509-00101495-00101735 the last session was the silos on the xTtFwVPCOe8-00510-00101736-00101862 coasts xTtFwVPCOe8-00511-00101863-00102094 and a flyover country maybe that's xTtFwVPCOe8-00512-00102095-00102615 overlooked and anvil can reach those xTtFwVPCOe8-00513-00102616-00102775 awesome man by fly over country like xTtFwVPCOe8-00514-00102776-00103023 you're being euphemistic but i i am and xTtFwVPCOe8-00515-00103024-00103206 i grew up in st louis and yeah so that's xTtFwVPCOe8-00516-00103207-00103375 me yeah so yeah we're going to talk xTtFwVPCOe8-00517-00103376-00103599 about that quite a bit um bill go ahead xTtFwVPCOe8-00518-00103600-00103678 please xTtFwVPCOe8-00519-00103679-00104006 yes uh i think that xTtFwVPCOe8-00520-00104007-00104223 if i understood it correctly the deep xTtFwVPCOe8-00521-00104224-00104542 pilots program is is a real plus i think xTtFwVPCOe8-00522-00104543-00104639 uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00523-00104640-00104782 where you can get that intimate xTtFwVPCOe8-00524-00104783-00105031 interaction with the users and get them xTtFwVPCOe8-00525-00105032-00105127 involved xTtFwVPCOe8-00526-00105128-00105478 directly and using the the tool xTtFwVPCOe8-00527-00105479-00105647 so so um uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00528-00105648-00105943 let me ask a question about that is that xTtFwVPCOe8-00529-00105944-00106071 i don't know if i picked this up now was xTtFwVPCOe8-00530-00106072-00106286 that primarily aimed at faculty students xTtFwVPCOe8-00531-00106288-00106631 postdocs of what the deep pilots program xTtFwVPCOe8-00532-00106632-00106783 yeah that's a good question so it's it's xTtFwVPCOe8-00533-00106783-00106927 actually we're trying to hit a few xTtFwVPCOe8-00534-00106928-00107071 different communities with that though xTtFwVPCOe8-00535-00107072-00107295 so we're trying to hit the xTtFwVPCOe8-00536-00107296-00107519 the researchers sure but we also have xTtFwVPCOe8-00537-00107520-00107695 grad students who are actually using the xTtFwVPCOe8-00538-00107696-00107854 platform day-to-day and trying to figure xTtFwVPCOe8-00539-00107855-00108039 out what their pain points are xTtFwVPCOe8-00540-00108040-00108263 we sort of that persona model is sort of xTtFwVPCOe8-00541-00108264-00108447 a way to think about it we've got grad xTtFwVPCOe8-00542-00108448-00108647 students we want to talk to some pis and xTtFwVPCOe8-00543-00108648-00108807 how do they set up their lab and how do xTtFwVPCOe8-00544-00108808-00109031 they sort of manage the costs and then xTtFwVPCOe8-00545-00109032-00109223 educators how do we run this in a xTtFwVPCOe8-00546-00109224-00109375 classroom and how do we make sure that xTtFwVPCOe8-00547-00109376-00109566 it works well for them xTtFwVPCOe8-00548-00109567-00109751 so sort of thinking through xTtFwVPCOe8-00549-00109752-00109919 that that deep pilots program is to xTtFwVPCOe8-00550-00109920-00110078 collect information from all of those xTtFwVPCOe8-00551-00110079-00110295 different communities to try to figure xTtFwVPCOe8-00552-00110296-00110447 out what are the pain points for each xTtFwVPCOe8-00553-00110448-00110534 one xTtFwVPCOe8-00554-00110535-00110758 yeah i think that's the deep past i xTtFwVPCOe8-00555-00110759-00110990 think it's a really good idea uh i think xTtFwVPCOe8-00556-00110991-00111199 it has the potential to uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00557-00111200-00111415 uh demystify xTtFwVPCOe8-00558-00111416-00111566 uh uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00559-00111567-00111647 uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00560-00111648-00111766 and bill xTtFwVPCOe8-00561-00111767-00112095 but while it's being demystified it's xTtFwVPCOe8-00562-00112096-00112358 also uh exposing its strengths to the xTtFwVPCOe8-00563-00112359-00112495 people and xTtFwVPCOe8-00564-00112496-00112719 and so i think that's that's something xTtFwVPCOe8-00565-00112720-00112966 should be uh exploited uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00566-00112967-00113143 one other question i didn't know what xTtFwVPCOe8-00567-00113144-00113286 this meant xTtFwVPCOe8-00568-00113288-00113543 what do you mean by anvil discourse what xTtFwVPCOe8-00569-00113544-00113758 is that xTtFwVPCOe8-00570-00113759-00113958 yeah absolutely we can paste the link xTtFwVPCOe8-00571-00113959-00114302 here help.animalproject.org xTtFwVPCOe8-00572-00114303-00114495 if you go there it's a community it's xTtFwVPCOe8-00573-00114496-00114607 sort of a xTtFwVPCOe8-00574-00114608-00114751 place where you can post questions and xTtFwVPCOe8-00575-00114752-00114990 get answers okay so one of the big xTtFwVPCOe8-00576-00114991-00115231 challenges of the anvil is because it's xTtFwVPCOe8-00577-00115232-00115351 mike is actually the one that pointed xTtFwVPCOe8-00578-00115352-00115447 this out xTtFwVPCOe8-00579-00115448-00115615 the anvils you can think of it more like xTtFwVPCOe8-00580-00115616-00115799 a computer there's lots of apps on it xTtFwVPCOe8-00581-00115800-00115975 right you can launch r you can launch xTtFwVPCOe8-00582-00115976-00116207 galaxy you can launch python xTtFwVPCOe8-00583-00116208-00116447 you can do things on terra each of those xTtFwVPCOe8-00584-00116448-00116647 has their own support community each of xTtFwVPCOe8-00585-00116648-00116871 them has their own sort of development xTtFwVPCOe8-00586-00116872-00117071 of places where you can get answers to xTtFwVPCOe8-00587-00117072-00117199 questions xTtFwVPCOe8-00588-00117200-00117431 we're trying to build a community around xTtFwVPCOe8-00589-00117432-00117615 this website where people can go and xTtFwVPCOe8-00590-00117616-00117790 they post their questions and then our xTtFwVPCOe8-00591-00117791-00117975 outreach team often ends up like xTtFwVPCOe8-00592-00117976-00118151 shuttling that question xTtFwVPCOe8-00593-00118152-00118334 tiffany can tell you about fred posting xTtFwVPCOe8-00594-00118335-00118623 questions to the to the tara uh help xTtFwVPCOe8-00595-00118624-00118886 support ticketing system for example xTtFwVPCOe8-00596-00118888-00119119 um so we try to like be the xTtFwVPCOe8-00597-00119120-00119286 you know to use the analogy where it xTtFwVPCOe8-00598-00119288-00119431 looks all smooth on the surface you xTtFwVPCOe8-00599-00119432-00119607 asked your question and regardless of xTtFwVPCOe8-00600-00119608-00119802 what it's about you get an answer on xTtFwVPCOe8-00601-00119803-00119975 help.animalproject.org and then the xTtFwVPCOe8-00602-00119976-00120127 where the duck with the feet underwater xTtFwVPCOe8-00603-00120128-00120254 running really fast trying to figure out xTtFwVPCOe8-00604-00120255-00120447 where that's supposed to go and getting xTtFwVPCOe8-00605-00120448-00120663 you your answer back so it's sort of a xTtFwVPCOe8-00606-00120664-00120854 our goal is to build a one-stop shop xTtFwVPCOe8-00607-00120855-00121047 around all the different tools and get xTtFwVPCOe8-00608-00121048-00121327 as we get more users if they continue to xTtFwVPCOe8-00609-00121328-00121447 join this xTtFwVPCOe8-00610-00121448-00121702 the hope is the galaxy group and the bio xTtFwVPCOe8-00611-00121703-00121807 conductor group have done this xTtFwVPCOe8-00612-00121808-00121966 incredibly well they've developed these xTtFwVPCOe8-00613-00121967-00122095 communities where xTtFwVPCOe8-00614-00122096-00122239 people will answer each other's xTtFwVPCOe8-00615-00122240-00122390 questions you know we stop answering the xTtFwVPCOe8-00616-00122391-00122519 questions because somebody else already xTtFwVPCOe8-00617-00122520-00122719 knows the answer and they they post it xTtFwVPCOe8-00618-00122720-00123039 so we're hoping to get there eventually xTtFwVPCOe8-00619-00123040-00123447 thank you xTtFwVPCOe8-00620-00123448-00123639 uh john please go ahead xTtFwVPCOe8-00621-00123640-00123927 you have your hand yeah hi uh again as i xTtFwVPCOe8-00622-00123928-00124190 said uh earlier xTtFwVPCOe8-00623-00124191-00124302 excuse me xTtFwVPCOe8-00624-00124303-00124614 i run a virtual data science training xTtFwVPCOe8-00625-00124615-00124927 program over the spring and then jeff xTtFwVPCOe8-00626-00124928-00125031 and xTtFwVPCOe8-00627-00125032-00125278 mark they were ordered to support us and xTtFwVPCOe8-00628-00125279-00125358 then xTtFwVPCOe8-00629-00125359-00125631 it was a very successful xTtFwVPCOe8-00630-00125632-00125775 uh program xTtFwVPCOe8-00631-00125776-00126083 we had an average of over 70 xTtFwVPCOe8-00632-00126083-00126334 participating each week xTtFwVPCOe8-00633-00126335-00126614 and then of course the anvil team uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00634-00126615-00126878 exposed the participant to the various xTtFwVPCOe8-00635-00126879-00127007 uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00636-00127008-00127231 tools that they had and then another xTtFwVPCOe8-00637-00127232-00127471 strength that i see is xTtFwVPCOe8-00638-00127472-00127654 they also xTtFwVPCOe8-00639-00127655-00127919 give all the participants credit to be xTtFwVPCOe8-00640-00127920-00128095 able to use the resource i don't know if xTtFwVPCOe8-00641-00128096-00128358 they did that to only as if they do it xTtFwVPCOe8-00642-00128359-00128631 to everyone but i think that is a great xTtFwVPCOe8-00643-00128632-00128734 uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00644-00128735-00128883 strength to xTtFwVPCOe8-00645-00128883-00129327 expose uh students and researchers to to xTtFwVPCOe8-00646-00129328-00129543 answer xTtFwVPCOe8-00647-00129544-00129686 right and what i just want to be sure xTtFwVPCOe8-00648-00129688-00129839 like we parking lot that discussion xTtFwVPCOe8-00649-00129840-00130071 about the credits because that'll also xTtFwVPCOe8-00650-00130072-00130239 pretty much figure into the weaknesses xTtFwVPCOe8-00651-00130240-00130614 um not that fabulous xTtFwVPCOe8-00652-00130615-00130807 if you get it for free then that that's xTtFwVPCOe8-00653-00130808-00131007 a spread but of course if you are paying xTtFwVPCOe8-00654-00131008-00131143 for it then xTtFwVPCOe8-00655-00131144-00131295 that that would be a weakness that's xTtFwVPCOe8-00656-00131296-00131519 what i said if they did it for xTtFwVPCOe8-00657-00131520-00131814 us or they do it for everyone yeah yeah xTtFwVPCOe8-00658-00131815-00131983 we'll have a discussion of costs in in xTtFwVPCOe8-00659-00131984-00132151 later sections first all right good xTtFwVPCOe8-00660-00132152-00132502 point um i i did ask a question uh john xTtFwVPCOe8-00661-00132503-00132751 to you like so uh what you got what you xTtFwVPCOe8-00662-00132752-00132999 worked on with um with with jeff and xTtFwVPCOe8-00663-00133000-00133423 mike is that part of howard's um xTtFwVPCOe8-00664-00133424-00133511 yes xTtFwVPCOe8-00665-00133512-00133607 yes xTtFwVPCOe8-00666-00133608-00133735 okay can you tell us a little bit about xTtFwVPCOe8-00667-00133736-00133919 that and and xTtFwVPCOe8-00668-00133920-00134231 well it was an eight-week data science xTtFwVPCOe8-00669-00134232-00134502 uh training xTtFwVPCOe8-00670-00134503-00134678 so in this year we are going to do it xTtFwVPCOe8-00671-00134679-00135047 only for our students or our cmi or xTtFwVPCOe8-00672-00135048-00135302 institutions with rcmr but we extend xTtFwVPCOe8-00673-00135303-00135431 that due to xTtFwVPCOe8-00674-00135432-00135743 other hbcus and then xTtFwVPCOe8-00675-00135744-00135919 once we advertise xTtFwVPCOe8-00676-00135920-00136063 getting uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00677-00136064-00136375 participants from everywhere students xTtFwVPCOe8-00678-00136376-00136647 researchers faculty even some of them xTtFwVPCOe8-00679-00136648-00136919 tended faculty they were on there some xTtFwVPCOe8-00680-00136920-00137151 of them even from overseas i think in xTtFwVPCOe8-00681-00137152-00137431 the other session there were issues with xTtFwVPCOe8-00682-00137432-00137719 security issues for overseas xTtFwVPCOe8-00683-00137720-00137823 uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00684-00137824-00138031 yeah so there were actually people xTtFwVPCOe8-00685-00138032-00138319 coming from europe from africa for from xTtFwVPCOe8-00686-00138320-00138454 everywhere so xTtFwVPCOe8-00687-00138455-00138727 it was more like an overview of data xTtFwVPCOe8-00688-00138728-00138935 science xTtFwVPCOe8-00689-00138936-00139207 started with python some basics of xTtFwVPCOe8-00690-00139208-00139519 statistics neural machine learning deep xTtFwVPCOe8-00691-00139520-00139711 learning and then we had a special xTtFwVPCOe8-00692-00139712-00140047 section for andrew that is where jeff xTtFwVPCOe8-00693-00140048-00140335 and mike and his team the whole team xTtFwVPCOe8-00694-00140336-00140583 were there for over two days so we're xTtFwVPCOe8-00695-00140584-00140847 very appreciative of that xTtFwVPCOe8-00696-00140848-00141007 yeah i definitely want to talk about xTtFwVPCOe8-00697-00141008-00141190 that some more and especially like me xTtFwVPCOe8-00698-00141191-00141383 being from harry you know another you xTtFwVPCOe8-00699-00141384-00141583 know historically black college where xTtFwVPCOe8-00700-00141584-00141847 there's a need um just hold on to that xTtFwVPCOe8-00701-00141848-00142063 thought i'll definitely bring it up xTtFwVPCOe8-00702-00142064-00142326 um rob uh your hand is up xTtFwVPCOe8-00703-00142327-00142583 yeah i was um curious i've got two xTtFwVPCOe8-00704-00142584-00142726 questions first of all what types of xTtFwVPCOe8-00705-00142727-00143014 institutions are using anfield do we xTtFwVPCOe8-00706-00143015-00143223 have data on that yet because xTtFwVPCOe8-00707-00143224-00143478 as uh andrew lee said you know this the xTtFwVPCOe8-00708-00143479-00143839 strength of anvil is supposedly in xTtFwVPCOe8-00709-00143840-00144087 the ability of everyone to use it and so xTtFwVPCOe8-00710-00144088-00144278 my big question then is okay so who is xTtFwVPCOe8-00711-00144279-00144495 actually using is it still xTtFwVPCOe8-00712-00144496-00144663 those in the now who are really going to xTtFwVPCOe8-00713-00144664-00144839 be first-hand xTtFwVPCOe8-00714-00144840-00145031 you know linked to people who are xTtFwVPCOe8-00715-00145032-00145214 involved in the envelope project or are xTtFwVPCOe8-00716-00145215-00145471 we starting to really see it starting to xTtFwVPCOe8-00717-00145472-00145735 blossom outside of that um xTtFwVPCOe8-00718-00145736-00145926 galaxy for example i think that's well xTtFwVPCOe8-00719-00145927-00146126 to catch on and i'm just curious to see xTtFwVPCOe8-00720-00146127-00146302 how anvil is doing in comparison xTtFwVPCOe8-00721-00146303-00146535 something like the galaxy project xTtFwVPCOe8-00722-00146536-00146807 and i was also interested in the persona xTtFwVPCOe8-00723-00146808-00147063 idea that you had for um xTtFwVPCOe8-00724-00147064-00147302 different end users i think one category xTtFwVPCOe8-00725-00147303-00147511 that maybe we should add to that xTtFwVPCOe8-00726-00147512-00147887 is retraining of the workforce so nah xTtFwVPCOe8-00727-00147888-00148095 and hcra in particular keeps on talking xTtFwVPCOe8-00728-00148096-00148287 about retraining of faculty and genomics xTtFwVPCOe8-00729-00148288-00148431 and data science xTtFwVPCOe8-00730-00148432-00148566 and so maybe that should be another xTtFwVPCOe8-00731-00148567-00148790 persona that we should be trying to xTtFwVPCOe8-00732-00148791-00149199 actively bring onto the anvil um campus xTtFwVPCOe8-00733-00149200-00149463 should we call it to help aid in xTtFwVPCOe8-00734-00149464-00149719 retraining the faculty for genomics and xTtFwVPCOe8-00735-00149720-00149926 data science type xTtFwVPCOe8-00736-00149927-00150599 uh used xTtFwVPCOe8-00737-00150600-00150790 yeah i think one of the things we hope xTtFwVPCOe8-00738-00150791-00150966 with the persona framework is that we xTtFwVPCOe8-00739-00150967-00151143 can identify new personas i think the xTtFwVPCOe8-00740-00151144-00151302 retraining one is xTtFwVPCOe8-00741-00151303-00151487 a brilliant sort of suggestion and so xTtFwVPCOe8-00742-00151488-00151631 the question is xTtFwVPCOe8-00743-00151632-00151854 how do we distinguish xTtFwVPCOe8-00744-00151855-00152039 the retrain what what would we do xTtFwVPCOe8-00745-00152040-00152207 different if we're retraining somebody xTtFwVPCOe8-00746-00152208-00152359 versus if we're training somebody from xTtFwVPCOe8-00747-00152360-00152551 from scratch and so i think that that's xTtFwVPCOe8-00748-00152552-00152719 a cool idea and we'd have to think how xTtFwVPCOe8-00749-00152720-00152895 to do it but i think it's a good one i xTtFwVPCOe8-00750-00152896-00153031 think typically someone who's going to xTtFwVPCOe8-00751-00153032-00153239 be retraining they're going to be xTtFwVPCOe8-00752-00153240-00153439 probably more cautious they're probably xTtFwVPCOe8-00753-00153440-00153623 going to be more stuck in xTtFwVPCOe8-00754-00153624-00153814 certain ways and maybe i'm just talking xTtFwVPCOe8-00755-00153815-00153975 about myself i don't know xTtFwVPCOe8-00756-00153976-00154054 um xTtFwVPCOe8-00757-00154055-00154214 but you know xTtFwVPCOe8-00758-00154215-00154383 everyone knows okay if you imagine you xTtFwVPCOe8-00759-00154384-00154535 were taken out of your current comfort xTtFwVPCOe8-00760-00154536-00154775 zone and something asked to do or be xTtFwVPCOe8-00761-00154776-00154935 expected to start learning something xTtFwVPCOe8-00762-00154936-00155031 else xTtFwVPCOe8-00763-00155032-00155231 what would be the impediment to you xTtFwVPCOe8-00764-00155232-00155390 learning that what would stop you xTtFwVPCOe8-00765-00155391-00155647 learning that like i keep on thinking i xTtFwVPCOe8-00766-00155648-00155863 should learn python but xTtFwVPCOe8-00767-00155864-00156014 i don't xTtFwVPCOe8-00768-00156015-00156190 point so you know i have to still xTtFwVPCOe8-00769-00156191-00156390 transfer everything out or using linux xTtFwVPCOe8-00770-00156391-00156654 so what what's what's this typical sort xTtFwVPCOe8-00771-00156655-00156799 of impediments or challenges that xTtFwVPCOe8-00772-00156800-00157087 researchers would have to learn and xTtFwVPCOe8-00773-00157088-00157319 skill like that you can then learn from xTtFwVPCOe8-00774-00157320-00157566 that so then how how then we should xTtFwVPCOe8-00775-00157567-00157790 think about maybe training xTtFwVPCOe8-00776-00157791-00157902 modules xTtFwVPCOe8-00777-00157903-00158111 specifically targeting xTtFwVPCOe8-00778-00158112-00158254 um xTtFwVPCOe8-00779-00158255-00158526 maybe older faculty or faculty maybe are xTtFwVPCOe8-00780-00158527-00159190 not from genomics and areas xTtFwVPCOe8-00781-00159191-00159287 it's xTtFwVPCOe8-00782-00159288-00159414 this is related i guess to the xTtFwVPCOe8-00783-00159415-00159559 retraining but one of the things i'm xTtFwVPCOe8-00784-00159560-00159726 seeing more and more in xTtFwVPCOe8-00785-00159727-00159966 new faculty postings is the request xTtFwVPCOe8-00786-00159967-00160151 especially at teaching universities to xTtFwVPCOe8-00787-00160152-00160311 be implementing things like cures where xTtFwVPCOe8-00788-00160312-00160414 you're bringing research into the xTtFwVPCOe8-00789-00160415-00160583 classroom and i think that's one of the xTtFwVPCOe8-00790-00160584-00160766 things that we've been uh talking about xTtFwVPCOe8-00791-00160767-00161007 a lot as groups both in the gds and xTtFwVPCOe8-00792-00161008-00161263 internally is just how can we bring this xTtFwVPCOe8-00793-00161264-00161454 kind of research to those kinds of xTtFwVPCOe8-00794-00161455-00161766 institutions and i think one strategy is xTtFwVPCOe8-00795-00161767-00161911 targeting the faculty because if the xTtFwVPCOe8-00796-00161912-00162047 faculty don't actually know how to do xTtFwVPCOe8-00797-00162048-00162239 the research then it's hard for them to xTtFwVPCOe8-00798-00162240-00162431 advise and mentor the students so i xTtFwVPCOe8-00799-00162432-00162599 think exactly you know in line with what xTtFwVPCOe8-00800-00162600-00162687 you're saying robert about the xTtFwVPCOe8-00801-00162688-00162863 retraining i think is just getting xTtFwVPCOe8-00802-00162864-00163014 people accustomed to speaking the xTtFwVPCOe8-00803-00163015-00163214 language to finding the collaborations xTtFwVPCOe8-00804-00163215-00163351 and doing the research you know on the xTtFwVPCOe8-00805-00163352-00163543 platform like anvil xTtFwVPCOe8-00806-00163544-00163735 so i you know i think that retraining xTtFwVPCOe8-00807-00163736-00163831 that xTtFwVPCOe8-00808-00163832-00163983 or even just you know the first time xTtFwVPCOe8-00809-00163984-00164183 training you know is a very good point xTtFwVPCOe8-00810-00164184-00164463 um andrew looks like yeah yeah yeah the xTtFwVPCOe8-00811-00164464-00164654 physical hand up uh just to quickly add xTtFwVPCOe8-00812-00164655-00164871 that uh one of the notes i was making in xTtFwVPCOe8-00813-00164872-00165054 preparation for this was as much as xTtFwVPCOe8-00814-00165055-00165214 we're talking about modules where xTtFwVPCOe8-00815-00165215-00165335 students are going to get their hands xTtFwVPCOe8-00816-00165336-00165487 wet and get in xTtFwVPCOe8-00817-00165488-00165671 i was struck xTtFwVPCOe8-00818-00165672-00165919 fred's point which is maybe we need a xTtFwVPCOe8-00819-00165920-00166135 tour of somebody using anvil how do you xTtFwVPCOe8-00820-00166136-00166343 go from recruiting patients to then xTtFwVPCOe8-00821-00166344-00166599 collecting data crunching numbers to xTtFwVPCOe8-00822-00166600-00166751 seeing everything come up in the cloud xTtFwVPCOe8-00823-00166752-00166983 because that way it would naturally then xTtFwVPCOe8-00824-00166984-00167166 maybe fit for xTtFwVPCOe8-00825-00167167-00167351 retraining of faculty and also just as xTtFwVPCOe8-00826-00167352-00167502 an introduction even to students about xTtFwVPCOe8-00827-00167503-00167678 what does this actually do xTtFwVPCOe8-00828-00167679-00168135 when you go from beginning to end xTtFwVPCOe8-00829-00168136-00168351 yeah that was actually very close to the xTtFwVPCOe8-00830-00168352-00168575 comment i just put in the documentation xTtFwVPCOe8-00831-00168576-00168823 which is even though the documentation xTtFwVPCOe8-00832-00168824-00169047 looks really nice but you're starting xTtFwVPCOe8-00833-00169048-00169214 off with you know how to create an xTtFwVPCOe8-00834-00169215-00169399 account in a workspace before you've xTtFwVPCOe8-00835-00169400-00169647 even shown somebody that sort of xTtFwVPCOe8-00836-00169648-00169902 walkthrough of here's an example of xTtFwVPCOe8-00837-00169903-00170111 analysis you can do that you don't have xTtFwVPCOe8-00838-00170112-00170311 to sign up for you don't have to worry xTtFwVPCOe8-00839-00170312-00170511 about cloud credits you don't have to xTtFwVPCOe8-00840-00170512-00170695 you have to push a button and somebody xTtFwVPCOe8-00841-00170696-00170823 will say xTtFwVPCOe8-00842-00170824-00171023 well you know here's the data set and xTtFwVPCOe8-00843-00171024-00171143 here's how you get it here's the xTtFwVPCOe8-00844-00171144-00171326 analysis i did and here's the buttons i xTtFwVPCOe8-00845-00171327-00171583 pushed i mean that sort of high level xTtFwVPCOe8-00846-00171584-00171919 walkthrough before people have to invest xTtFwVPCOe8-00847-00171920-00172151 in setting up an account and cloning xTtFwVPCOe8-00848-00172152-00172335 workspaces and stuff xTtFwVPCOe8-00849-00172336-00172559 i i think the energy of activation to xTtFwVPCOe8-00850-00172560-00172887 get into using anvil is still too high xTtFwVPCOe8-00851-00172888-00173111 um because it still xTtFwVPCOe8-00852-00173112-00173383 it still requires um xTtFwVPCOe8-00853-00173384-00173487 sort of a xTtFwVPCOe8-00854-00173488-00173663 trust that if i spend the time to xTtFwVPCOe8-00855-00173664-00173935 register and get workspaces set up that xTtFwVPCOe8-00856-00173936-00174183 it's going to be something i can use xTtFwVPCOe8-00857-00174184-00174359 before there's xTtFwVPCOe8-00858-00174360-00174654 any anything i saw there was a couple of xTtFwVPCOe8-00859-00174655-00174863 workspaces that you would could be xTtFwVPCOe8-00860-00174864-00174990 walked through but you had to first xTtFwVPCOe8-00861-00174991-00175183 clone the workspace right so there's a xTtFwVPCOe8-00862-00175184-00175390 lot of upfront stuff you still had to do xTtFwVPCOe8-00863-00175391-00175519 i think that xTtFwVPCOe8-00864-00175520-00175863 lowering that that energy of activation xTtFwVPCOe8-00865-00175864-00176087 for understanding what anvil can do for xTtFwVPCOe8-00866-00176088-00176335 you like was just mentioned i think xTtFwVPCOe8-00867-00176336-00176575 would would be very very useful and i xTtFwVPCOe8-00868-00176576-00176735 think it's a weakness now that there's xTtFwVPCOe8-00869-00176736-00176966 still sort of that high level of energy xTtFwVPCOe8-00870-00176967-00177087 of activation xTtFwVPCOe8-00871-00177088-00177278 i also wondered um xTtFwVPCOe8-00872-00177279-00177590 it's a question a comment um xTtFwVPCOe8-00873-00177591-00177726 how xTtFwVPCOe8-00874-00177727-00178014 users are finding anvil like do you poll xTtFwVPCOe8-00875-00178015-00178263 how people learn about anvil and can you xTtFwVPCOe8-00876-00178264-00178438 learn from that xTtFwVPCOe8-00877-00178439-00178583 how to better xTtFwVPCOe8-00878-00178584-00178854 maybe target groups that you're wanting xTtFwVPCOe8-00879-00178855-00179047 to reach but are missing xTtFwVPCOe8-00880-00179048-00179254 um xTtFwVPCOe8-00881-00179255-00179751 just that that whole user um acquisition xTtFwVPCOe8-00882-00179752-00179983 uh strategy i'm just wondering if if you xTtFwVPCOe8-00883-00179984-00180543 could say a few more words on that xTtFwVPCOe8-00884-00180544-00180814 uh yeah i think maybe i can respond to a xTtFwVPCOe8-00885-00180815-00180943 couple of those so there's two or three xTtFwVPCOe8-00886-00180944-00181143 things there one is i think your point xTtFwVPCOe8-00887-00181144-00181319 is well taken around billing and xTtFwVPCOe8-00888-00181320-00181559 activation energy you know this is a xTtFwVPCOe8-00889-00181560-00181831 deep across d pilots and we'll help that xTtFwVPCOe8-00890-00181832-00181983 animal project across all these xTtFwVPCOe8-00891-00181984-00182214 platforms the thing that intimidates new xTtFwVPCOe8-00892-00182215-00182438 users is billing they get you know like xTtFwVPCOe8-00893-00182439-00182623 that's that's the scariest part of this xTtFwVPCOe8-00894-00182624-00182823 whole thing for a lot of people xTtFwVPCOe8-00895-00182824-00182926 and so xTtFwVPCOe8-00896-00182927-00183111 we've been thinking you know actively xTtFwVPCOe8-00897-00183112-00183295 and one of the hopes for the future is xTtFwVPCOe8-00898-00183296-00183414 really thinking through how do we xTtFwVPCOe8-00899-00183415-00183543 support xTtFwVPCOe8-00900-00183544-00183751 that ease of transition for people onto xTtFwVPCOe8-00901-00183752-00183887 the platform so they can try something xTtFwVPCOe8-00902-00183888-00184031 without feeling about building and it's xTtFwVPCOe8-00903-00184032-00184199 a tricky problem it's a heavy lift to xTtFwVPCOe8-00904-00184200-00184407 sort of create a free tier or something xTtFwVPCOe8-00905-00184408-00184535 like that but it's something we would xTtFwVPCOe8-00906-00184536-00184735 love to be able to do xTtFwVPCOe8-00907-00184736-00184814 um xTtFwVPCOe8-00908-00184815-00184990 because you know just thinking back to xTtFwVPCOe8-00909-00184991-00185159 the model that tiffany showed of sort of xTtFwVPCOe8-00910-00185160-00185399 user acquisition you know a choke point xTtFwVPCOe8-00911-00185400-00185583 for us is really around getting your xTtFwVPCOe8-00912-00185584-00185799 credit card in there and stuff like that xTtFwVPCOe8-00913-00185800-00186031 there are examples as mike linked to one xTtFwVPCOe8-00914-00186032-00186199 of different walkthroughs and we can xTtFwVPCOe8-00915-00186200-00186407 show people futures workspaces but xTtFwVPCOe8-00916-00186408-00186566 unfortunately at the moment if you want xTtFwVPCOe8-00917-00186567-00186775 to start doing stuff on anvil yourself xTtFwVPCOe8-00918-00186776-00186935 the very first step has to be you got to xTtFwVPCOe8-00919-00186936-00187135 get your credit card in there and and we xTtFwVPCOe8-00920-00187136-00187302 all know that that's a huge barrier to xTtFwVPCOe8-00921-00187303-00187583 access and so that's a infrastructure xTtFwVPCOe8-00922-00187584-00187799 problem that outreach can only do so xTtFwVPCOe8-00923-00187800-00188047 much to overcome but but we would xTtFwVPCOe8-00924-00188048-00188278 but we agree that that is a key barrier xTtFwVPCOe8-00925-00188279-00188478 we need to get people over the hump well xTtFwVPCOe8-00926-00188479-00188799 let me just say that when galaxy was xTtFwVPCOe8-00927-00188800-00189190 first coming out one of the reasons that xTtFwVPCOe8-00928-00189191-00189438 i started using galaxy is because you xTtFwVPCOe8-00929-00189439-00189614 could go to the site and you could click xTtFwVPCOe8-00930-00189615-00189943 on this five minute video and anton xTtFwVPCOe8-00931-00189944-00190166 basically walked you through here's how xTtFwVPCOe8-00932-00190167-00190407 you do an rna-seq analysis like you xTtFwVPCOe8-00933-00190408-00190575 didn't have to do anything xTtFwVPCOe8-00934-00190576-00190831 alls you had to do is watch him create xTtFwVPCOe8-00935-00190832-00191063 the workflow get the data in push the xTtFwVPCOe8-00936-00191064-00191238 button and then watch the results come xTtFwVPCOe8-00937-00191239-00191319 in xTtFwVPCOe8-00938-00191320-00191638 and just that simple five minute xTtFwVPCOe8-00939-00191639-00191895 like here's what here's how it works xTtFwVPCOe8-00940-00191896-00192214 you know i immediately set up an account xTtFwVPCOe8-00941-00192215-00192383 for that but i didn't have to go through xTtFwVPCOe8-00942-00192384-00192575 any of that because there was this nice xTtFwVPCOe8-00943-00192576-00192831 nugget of walk through about how to do a xTtFwVPCOe8-00944-00192832-00193047 very specific analysis xTtFwVPCOe8-00945-00193048-00193143 that xTtFwVPCOe8-00946-00193144-00193326 met my needs xTtFwVPCOe8-00947-00193327-00193711 um and so i was able to jump right in i xTtFwVPCOe8-00948-00193712-00194047 i i don't see that in the current anvil xTtFwVPCOe8-00949-00194048-00194231 book getting started book it's like xTtFwVPCOe8-00950-00194232-00194471 introduction and then what does it cost xTtFwVPCOe8-00951-00194472-00194638 and i think that's xTtFwVPCOe8-00952-00194639-00194743 that xTtFwVPCOe8-00953-00194744-00194911 if there was something to xTtFwVPCOe8-00954-00194912-00195102 there that was more xTtFwVPCOe8-00955-00195103-00195278 look here's here's before you think xTtFwVPCOe8-00956-00195279-00195583 about signing up or paying money xTtFwVPCOe8-00957-00195584-00195711 here's some examples of what it can xTtFwVPCOe8-00958-00195712-00195878 actually do for you start with that xTtFwVPCOe8-00959-00195879-00196063 rather than start with the what does it xTtFwVPCOe8-00960-00196064-00196231 cost xTtFwVPCOe8-00961-00196232-00196431 so we've we've moved into the uh the xTtFwVPCOe8-00962-00196432-00196678 weaknesses and even threats uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00963-00196679-00196823 but great sorry xTtFwVPCOe8-00964-00196824-00197095 yes it's so uh since we are so i was xTtFwVPCOe8-00965-00197096-00197263 going to say that since we were talking xTtFwVPCOe8-00966-00197264-00197447 about strength xTtFwVPCOe8-00967-00197448-00197695 the annual documentation is very nice xTtFwVPCOe8-00968-00197696-00197935 but i agree to all of the people i had xTtFwVPCOe8-00969-00197936-00198214 in my notes uh for that too xTtFwVPCOe8-00970-00198215-00198463 that i think it would be really helpful xTtFwVPCOe8-00971-00198464-00198726 if instead of that much documentation if xTtFwVPCOe8-00972-00198727-00199119 we have short videos so like uh xTtFwVPCOe8-00973-00199120-00199343 the previous speaker mentioned about a xTtFwVPCOe8-00974-00199344-00199463 galaxy xTtFwVPCOe8-00975-00199464-00199711 uh i would also like to mention about a xTtFwVPCOe8-00976-00199712-00199935 software that i use frequently which is xTtFwVPCOe8-00977-00199936-00200278 ipa ingenuity pathway analysis so if you xTtFwVPCOe8-00978-00200279-00200454 you don't need to subscribe or do xTtFwVPCOe8-00979-00200455-00200719 anything to look at what it does so if xTtFwVPCOe8-00980-00200720-00200959 you go to their website they have xTtFwVPCOe8-00981-00200960-00201166 multiple videos that you can go and xTtFwVPCOe8-00982-00201167-00201519 learn which gives you an idea of what xTtFwVPCOe8-00983-00201520-00201735 you need it for and whether you need it xTtFwVPCOe8-00984-00201736-00201935 actually right so which is xTtFwVPCOe8-00985-00201936-00202166 uh what people would like to know before xTtFwVPCOe8-00986-00202167-00202407 they register or do something else and i xTtFwVPCOe8-00987-00202408-00202926 think that would be very helpful xTtFwVPCOe8-00988-00202927-00203071 i think the point is well taken that we xTtFwVPCOe8-00989-00203072-00203278 could throw a couple of we have several xTtFwVPCOe8-00990-00203279-00203431 like really awesome video walkthroughs xTtFwVPCOe8-00991-00203432-00203614 that we could put on the front page and xTtFwVPCOe8-00992-00203615-00203799 put at the beginning of this book xTtFwVPCOe8-00993-00203800-00203959 the thing to really keep in mind though xTtFwVPCOe8-00994-00203960-00204087 is that xTtFwVPCOe8-00995-00204088-00204190 you know xTtFwVPCOe8-00996-00204191-00204375 a difference between us and say galaxy xTtFwVPCOe8-00997-00204376-00204590 is there is a galaxy main which is sort xTtFwVPCOe8-00998-00204591-00204711 of a free xTtFwVPCOe8-00999-00204712-00204927 cloud-based service and so once you've xTtFwVPCOe8-01000-00204928-00205103 been excited about doing something you xTtFwVPCOe8-01001-00205104-00205279 can immediately like press a button and xTtFwVPCOe8-01002-00205280-00205566 start doing work for free xTtFwVPCOe8-01003-00205567-00205775 that currently isn't possible with with xTtFwVPCOe8-01004-00205776-00205958 anvil and would take an engineering xTtFwVPCOe8-01005-00205959-00206127 change to sort of make that happen and i xTtFwVPCOe8-01006-00206128-00206214 think it's something we should xTtFwVPCOe8-01007-00206215-00206414 absolutely explore and i'm i'm with xTtFwVPCOe8-01008-00206415-00206582 everybody on that i would love to see xTtFwVPCOe8-01009-00206583-00206727 that but it's sort of something that's xTtFwVPCOe8-01010-00206728-00206886 harder for us to xTtFwVPCOe8-01011-00206887-00207038 do is the outreach team xTtFwVPCOe8-01012-00207039-00207231 so jeff that is why i mentioned about xTtFwVPCOe8-01013-00207232-00207527 ipa ipa is a very expensive software xTtFwVPCOe8-01014-00207528-00207966 like registration 12 000 13 000 per year xTtFwVPCOe8-01015-00207967-00208255 but you can go to the website and see xTtFwVPCOe8-01016-00208256-00208519 like multiple videos to find out what it xTtFwVPCOe8-01017-00208519-00208751 actually does and whether it would help xTtFwVPCOe8-01018-00208752-00208982 you or not even before you do anything xTtFwVPCOe8-01019-00208983-00209119 so i was xTtFwVPCOe8-01020-00209119-00209590 that's the reason i i mentioned that xTtFwVPCOe8-01021-00209591-00209758 um xTtFwVPCOe8-01022-00209759-00209975 just because i think this was being xTtFwVPCOe8-01023-00209976-00210334 communicated in the zoom chat but xTtFwVPCOe8-01024-00210335-00210494 the getting started guide i think hits xTtFwVPCOe8-01025-00210496-00210631 at the the people who have been xTtFwVPCOe8-01026-00210632-00210791 convinced already that they want to xTtFwVPCOe8-01027-00210792-00210942 start using the platform and so it's xTtFwVPCOe8-01028-00210944-00211087 trying to walk you through those step by xTtFwVPCOe8-01029-00211088-00211310 steps this is part of the larger xTtFwVPCOe8-01030-00211311-00211423 outreach xTtFwVPCOe8-01031-00211423-00211639 material and if you go to the actual xTtFwVPCOe8-01032-00211640-00211855 portal um we do have three videos that xTtFwVPCOe8-01033-00211856-00212071 do highlight use cases uh highlighting xTtFwVPCOe8-01034-00212071-00212375 on variant calling using jtk doing gwas xTtFwVPCOe8-01035-00212376-00212575 um analysis and you know getting into xTtFwVPCOe8-01036-00212576-00212839 what goes into eqtl analysis xTtFwVPCOe8-01037-00212840-00213071 so you know i i think one point that's xTtFwVPCOe8-01038-00213071-00213358 well taken is that we we are continually xTtFwVPCOe8-01039-00213359-00213542 trying to find the proper way to xTtFwVPCOe8-01040-00213544-00213694 organize this material so that it's xTtFwVPCOe8-01041-00213696-00213991 easier for people to understand um but xTtFwVPCOe8-01042-00213992-00214094 you know xTtFwVPCOe8-01043-00214096-00214263 th these are definitely all great xTtFwVPCOe8-01044-00214264-00214415 comments that we need to you know try xTtFwVPCOe8-01045-00214416-00214575 and make sure that the message is xTtFwVPCOe8-01046-00214576-00214806 getting across clearly so uh places that xTtFwVPCOe8-01047-00214807-00214894 you xTtFwVPCOe8-01048-00214896-00215134 have for suggestions on on redesigns are xTtFwVPCOe8-01049-00215135-00215279 very welcome there xTtFwVPCOe8-01050-00215280-00215527 and it might be um interesting to know xTtFwVPCOe8-01051-00215528-00215767 like who is asking these questions um xTtFwVPCOe8-01052-00215767-00215967 you know something coming from saurabh xTtFwVPCOe8-01053-00215967-00216119 would you know given you know that he's xTtFwVPCOe8-01054-00216119-00216342 a you're you tap right quite smart right xTtFwVPCOe8-01055-00216344-00216527 okay yeah universe texas xTtFwVPCOe8-01056-00216528-00216791 right um that might be a very different xTtFwVPCOe8-01057-00216792-00216967 question or it might be very different xTtFwVPCOe8-01058-00216967-00217110 answer from you xTtFwVPCOe8-01059-00217111-00217246 than you know someone who's from xTtFwVPCOe8-01060-00217248-00217455 somewhere else levi sorry you've had xTtFwVPCOe8-01061-00217456-00217863 your hand up for a while please xTtFwVPCOe8-01062-00217864-00218446 levi go ahead xTtFwVPCOe8-01063-00218448-00218767 sorry about that um xTtFwVPCOe8-01064-00218767-00218967 i i just wanted to chime in a little bit xTtFwVPCOe8-01065-00218967-00219127 more about xTtFwVPCOe8-01066-00219128-00219198 uh xTtFwVPCOe8-01067-00219200-00219287 the xTtFwVPCOe8-01068-00219288-00219639 the issues of cost and um and security xTtFwVPCOe8-01069-00219640-00219806 which have been raised and only to point xTtFwVPCOe8-01070-00219807-00220031 out that these are not just issues at xTtFwVPCOe8-01071-00220032-00220303 like the individual investigator level xTtFwVPCOe8-01072-00220304-00220591 that in my experience there are policies xTtFwVPCOe8-01073-00220592-00220894 codified at the university level um xTtFwVPCOe8-01074-00220896-00221127 around those things that are that xTtFwVPCOe8-01075-00221128-00221319 for me were were like really xTtFwVPCOe8-01076-00221319-00221487 prohibitively xTtFwVPCOe8-01077-00221488-00221758 discouraging to using cloud resources xTtFwVPCOe8-01078-00221759-00222006 and i feel like um xTtFwVPCOe8-01079-00222007-00222223 i i mean either my university is like xTtFwVPCOe8-01080-00222223-00222471 worse than everywhere else um for that xTtFwVPCOe8-01081-00222471-00222710 which sometimes i felt like um xTtFwVPCOe8-01082-00222711-00222846 uh or xTtFwVPCOe8-01083-00222848-00223055 we need to recognize that there are also xTtFwVPCOe8-01084-00223056-00223342 institutional hurdles that xTtFwVPCOe8-01085-00223344-00223567 um that we need to think about how to xTtFwVPCOe8-01086-00223567-00223887 overcome or else whatever is done at the xTtFwVPCOe8-01087-00223888-00224127 at the individual investigator level is xTtFwVPCOe8-01088-00224128-00224382 going to take a long time to percolate xTtFwVPCOe8-01089-00224383-00224742 up to like central iets and purchasing xTtFwVPCOe8-01090-00224744-00224927 departments libra which which school are xTtFwVPCOe8-01091-00224928-00225158 you at and the reason is because it xTtFwVPCOe8-01092-00225159-00225279 support is very different at very xTtFwVPCOe8-01093-00225280-00225527 different places yeah i met i'm at city xTtFwVPCOe8-01094-00225528-00225791 university of new york community xTtFwVPCOe8-01095-00225792-00226031 um so it's a pretty big college i mean xTtFwVPCOe8-01096-00226032-00226406 it has like 20 campuses and uh you know xTtFwVPCOe8-01097-00226407-00226558 i don't know xTtFwVPCOe8-01098-00226559-00226775 some hundreds of thousands of students xTtFwVPCOe8-01099-00226776-00226894 but um xTtFwVPCOe8-01100-00226896-00227063 i can tell you that i was the first xTtFwVPCOe8-01101-00227064-00227415 person to use a cloud servicing rebiller xTtFwVPCOe8-01102-00227416-00227519 uh xTtFwVPCOe8-01103-00227519-00227871 in my case onyx to to pay for uh for xTtFwVPCOe8-01104-00227871-00228063 google cloud computing and to set up a xTtFwVPCOe8-01105-00228064-00228287 strides account and i know that because xTtFwVPCOe8-01106-00228288-00228503 i had to broker xTtFwVPCOe8-01107-00228504-00228775 negotiations between the office of legal xTtFwVPCOe8-01108-00228776-00229023 counsel and onyx in order to get a xTtFwVPCOe8-01109-00229023-00229310 contract that both sides could agree on xTtFwVPCOe8-01110-00229311-00229694 so that i could use a third party xTtFwVPCOe8-01111-00229696-00230046 rebiller you know it's it was not it was xTtFwVPCOe8-01112-00230048-00230294 not easy and i also had to like fill out xTtFwVPCOe8-01113-00230296-00230551 security review forms where i had to xTtFwVPCOe8-01114-00230552-00230742 pretend that i knew like what kind of xTtFwVPCOe8-01115-00230744-00230871 encryption xTtFwVPCOe8-01116-00230871-00231119 anvil used and what kind of xTtFwVPCOe8-01117-00231119-00231471 authorization system it used and still xTtFwVPCOe8-01118-00231471-00231727 in the end i think i i got away with xTtFwVPCOe8-01119-00231728-00231919 that part because i said well i'm using xTtFwVPCOe8-01120-00231919-00232167 publicly available data i'm not using xTtFwVPCOe8-01121-00232167-00232255 any xTtFwVPCOe8-01122-00232256-00232439 um you know xTtFwVPCOe8-01123-00232440-00232767 data collected at the university so xTtFwVPCOe8-01124-00232767-00232958 just just to say i mean i went through xTtFwVPCOe8-01125-00232959-00233079 like a xTtFwVPCOe8-01126-00233080-00233334 substantial amount of effort just to be xTtFwVPCOe8-01127-00233335-00233703 able to pay for and analyze data xTtFwVPCOe8-01128-00233704-00233975 uh on on anvil xTtFwVPCOe8-01129-00233976-00234191 that there's no way i would have done if xTtFwVPCOe8-01130-00234192-00234479 i weren't funded to work on the project xTtFwVPCOe8-01131-00234480-00234734 um and it'll be easier now anyone else xTtFwVPCOe8-01132-00234735-00234942 at cuny who does it and i imagine at the xTtFwVPCOe8-01133-00234944-00235206 larger universities it's already been xTtFwVPCOe8-01134-00235207-00235463 done but there's going to be a long tail xTtFwVPCOe8-01135-00235464-00235719 of places where it's just xTtFwVPCOe8-01136-00235719-00235975 i mean i think there was basically xTtFwVPCOe8-01137-00235976-00236158 there are policies that are meant to xTtFwVPCOe8-01138-00236159-00236358 actively discourage xTtFwVPCOe8-01139-00236359-00236671 faculty from using cloud computing xTtFwVPCOe8-01140-00236671-00236863 yeah and then just to uh chime in on uh xTtFwVPCOe8-01141-00236864-00237151 andrew b's um comment in the text um xTtFwVPCOe8-01142-00237152-00237294 i wonder if levi's problem would be xTtFwVPCOe8-01143-00237296-00237431 similarly countered at other public xTtFwVPCOe8-01144-00237432-00237631 institutions yes and private xTtFwVPCOe8-01145-00237632-00237958 institutions as well uh it's not just so xTtFwVPCOe8-01146-00237959-00238103 um yeah xTtFwVPCOe8-01147-00238104-00238279 just to chime in there that we had the xTtFwVPCOe8-01148-00238280-00238446 same problem at johns hopkins frankly xTtFwVPCOe8-01149-00238448-00238575 with some of these things which is sort xTtFwVPCOe8-01150-00238576-00238727 of embarrassing to say xTtFwVPCOe8-01151-00238728-00238958 um but one of the things we've thought xTtFwVPCOe8-01152-00238959-00239142 about on our end and i'm curious what xTtFwVPCOe8-01153-00239144-00239342 the group thinks about this is templated xTtFwVPCOe8-01154-00239344-00239527 documents you know every everybody's xTtFwVPCOe8-01155-00239528-00239671 going to have to do what libra did at xTtFwVPCOe8-01156-00239671-00239863 some level if they want to use cloud i xTtFwVPCOe8-01157-00239864-00240039 think unfortunately that's sort of like xTtFwVPCOe8-01158-00240040-00240198 and titus and other people you know lots xTtFwVPCOe8-01159-00240200-00240342 of people mention this xTtFwVPCOe8-01160-00240344-00240567 are there things that we could create xTtFwVPCOe8-01161-00240567-00240798 security documents templates around what xTtFwVPCOe8-01162-00240800-00241006 the anvil is you know like is there a xTtFwVPCOe8-01163-00241007-00241206 packet that we could give to faculty xTtFwVPCOe8-01164-00241207-00241375 that would make it easier for them to xTtFwVPCOe8-01165-00241376-00241663 have broken those deals you know i don't xTtFwVPCOe8-01166-00241664-00241871 think we can eliminate that step for xTtFwVPCOe8-01167-00241871-00242023 universities i just don't see that xTtFwVPCOe8-01168-00242023-00242191 happening but i wonder if we can make it xTtFwVPCOe8-01169-00242192-00242423 easier xTtFwVPCOe8-01170-00242423-00242671 i mean briefly i'm i'm sorry if there's xTtFwVPCOe8-01171-00242671-00242894 a video lag or a text like i'm halfway xTtFwVPCOe8-01172-00242896-00243119 across the planet but this particular xTtFwVPCOe8-01173-00243119-00243351 problem right now is actually something xTtFwVPCOe8-01174-00243352-00243527 that's being acknowledged at the nih xTtFwVPCOe8-01175-00243528-00243758 wide level and not just with anvil or xTtFwVPCOe8-01176-00243759-00243975 not just with our institute but with nih xTtFwVPCOe8-01177-00243976-00244127 as a whole through the office of data xTtFwVPCOe8-01178-00244128-00244319 science strategy i mean imagine if johns xTtFwVPCOe8-01179-00244319-00244606 hopkins or schooney or uc davis is xTtFwVPCOe8-01180-00244607-00244823 having a problem getting a credit card xTtFwVPCOe8-01181-00244823-00245023 to use the cloud let's consider the xTtFwVPCOe8-01182-00245023-00245158 smaller places that are part of the xTtFwVPCOe8-01183-00245159-00245358 gtscn let's consider the places we xTtFwVPCOe8-01184-00245359-00245567 haven't even reached out to yet so xTtFwVPCOe8-01185-00245567-00245742 really i think part of the entropy that xTtFwVPCOe8-01186-00245744-00246015 carol and others mentioned is not just xTtFwVPCOe8-01187-00246016-00246215 scientific but also administrative and xTtFwVPCOe8-01188-00246216-00246423 and here at nih we are giving lots of xTtFwVPCOe8-01189-00246423-00246623 thought to how to work with purchasing xTtFwVPCOe8-01190-00246623-00246927 agents or administrative officers to to xTtFwVPCOe8-01191-00246928-00247167 enable them to let the scientists or the xTtFwVPCOe8-01192-00247167-00247334 researchers or the postdocs at their xTtFwVPCOe8-01193-00247335-00247527 institutions use the cloud so this is xTtFwVPCOe8-01194-00247528-00247671 something we are taking very seriously xTtFwVPCOe8-01195-00247671-00247846 it's still early days yet but there's a xTtFwVPCOe8-01196-00247848-00248063 lot of conversations at nih shaping up xTtFwVPCOe8-01197-00248064-00248327 around this topic xTtFwVPCOe8-01198-00248328-00248471 we're going to categorize that one as an xTtFwVPCOe8-01199-00248471-00248758 opportunity sure joe is that is that uh xTtFwVPCOe8-01200-00248759-00249055 frankly uh you you know as the program xTtFwVPCOe8-01201-00249056-00249287 person i'm going to insist that my xTtFwVPCOe8-01202-00249288-00249503 categorization not be taken as the one xTtFwVPCOe8-01203-00249504-00249719 but i see it as a weakness frankly xTtFwVPCOe8-01204-00249719-00249967 and an opportunity but maybe a weakness xTtFwVPCOe8-01205-00249967-00250206 and an opportunity at the same time xTtFwVPCOe8-01206-00250207-00250446 definitely not a strength xTtFwVPCOe8-01207-00250448-00250615 inside there's a definite opportunity xTtFwVPCOe8-01208-00250616-00250967 here for anvil to do something to help xTtFwVPCOe8-01209-00250967-00251198 researchers at institutions negotiate xTtFwVPCOe8-01210-00251200-00251351 these challenges xTtFwVPCOe8-01211-00251352-00251510 and talk in the chat is about xTtFwVPCOe8-01212-00251511-00251703 boilerplate documents but i think maybe xTtFwVPCOe8-01213-00251704-00251887 it will take more than that xTtFwVPCOe8-01214-00251888-00252015 i think xTtFwVPCOe8-01215-00252016-00252246 if we're relying on documents going back xTtFwVPCOe8-01216-00252248-00252423 and forth between legal there's going to xTtFwVPCOe8-01217-00252423-00252639 be severe delays xTtFwVPCOe8-01218-00252640-00252806 and that will impact projects and maybe xTtFwVPCOe8-01219-00252807-00253023 what we actually need is like a security xTtFwVPCOe8-01220-00253023-00253127 officer xTtFwVPCOe8-01221-00253128-00253382 who's part of the anvil program who can xTtFwVPCOe8-01222-00253383-00253615 actually assist and help researchers xTtFwVPCOe8-01223-00253616-00253719 with xTtFwVPCOe8-01224-00253719-00253846 these sorts of issues at their xTtFwVPCOe8-01225-00253848-00253991 institutions xTtFwVPCOe8-01226-00253992-00254198 with the immediate access to those xTtFwVPCOe8-01227-00254200-00254310 elements xTtFwVPCOe8-01228-00254311-00254606 of security protocols etc but i'm sorry xTtFwVPCOe8-01229-00254607-00254775 most researchers don't really know those xTtFwVPCOe8-01230-00254776-00254879 things xTtFwVPCOe8-01231-00254880-00255055 so it seems like there's a definite xTtFwVPCOe8-01232-00255056-00255334 opportunity there for a xTtFwVPCOe8-01233-00255335-00255694 a need for a position there to assist um xTtFwVPCOe8-01234-00255696-00255879 with research so i think there's always xTtFwVPCOe8-01235-00255880-00256119 going to be a sort of clash conflict of xTtFwVPCOe8-01236-00256119-00256310 interest between institutions wanting to xTtFwVPCOe8-01237-00256311-00256542 keep hold of data with the idea that xTtFwVPCOe8-01238-00256544-00256798 maybe they can monetize it uh we see xTtFwVPCOe8-01239-00256800-00257230 this being an hbcu a lot xTtFwVPCOe8-01240-00257231-00257479 and the concept of open access depends xTtFwVPCOe8-01241-00257480-00258358 on who's paying for the data xTtFwVPCOe8-01242-00258359-00258591 good point and uh yeah i don't know how xTtFwVPCOe8-01243-00258592-00258846 common that would xTtFwVPCOe8-01244-00258848-00259127 would be a different um landscape but xTtFwVPCOe8-01245-00259128-00259303 in general that sounds like an issue xTtFwVPCOe8-01246-00259304-00259494 that we all have xTtFwVPCOe8-01247-00259496-00259751 john please go ahead xTtFwVPCOe8-01248-00259752-00259927 yes again xTtFwVPCOe8-01249-00259928-00260175 as i said i run this xTtFwVPCOe8-01250-00260176-00260519 data science training workshop and then xTtFwVPCOe8-01251-00260519-00260742 one of the feedback or comment that we xTtFwVPCOe8-01252-00260744-00261023 got from the students some of them felt xTtFwVPCOe8-01253-00261023-00261239 they were left out that they were not xTtFwVPCOe8-01254-00261240-00261487 advanced enough to participate in some xTtFwVPCOe8-01255-00261488-00261646 of the xTtFwVPCOe8-01256-00261648-00262071 sections so my question is are this uh xTtFwVPCOe8-01257-00262071-00262310 step by step getting started with xTtFwVPCOe8-01258-00262311-00262551 another does it have prerequisite xTtFwVPCOe8-01259-00262552-00262719 considering that xTtFwVPCOe8-01260-00262720-00263006 some students or xTtFwVPCOe8-01261-00263007-00263230 researchers may come from biology xTtFwVPCOe8-01262-00263231-00263495 computer science mathematics or xTtFwVPCOe8-01263-00263496-00263695 statistics so xTtFwVPCOe8-01264-00263696-00264095 are they prerequisites for using anvil xTtFwVPCOe8-01265-00264096-00264375 especially for the self-service xTtFwVPCOe8-01266-00264376-00265271 individuals xTtFwVPCOe8-01267-00265272-00265406 mike i think that once that one's for xTtFwVPCOe8-01268-00265407-00265534 you xTtFwVPCOe8-01269-00265535-00265703 prerequisites for anvil xTtFwVPCOe8-01270-00265704-00265895 prerequisites to get to get xTtFwVPCOe8-01271-00265896-00266063 to become a user xTtFwVPCOe8-01272-00266064-00266191 hi xTtFwVPCOe8-01273-00266192-00266367 jeff why don't you jump in i mean i'm xTtFwVPCOe8-01274-00266368-00266591 happy to do it yeah um so like the xTtFwVPCOe8-01275-00266592-00266791 prerequisites in terms of the xTtFwVPCOe8-01276-00266792-00266967 prerequisites at the university level or xTtFwVPCOe8-01277-00266968-00267182 the prerequisites for like a uh xTtFwVPCOe8-01278-00267183-00267455 individual student or faculty member xTtFwVPCOe8-01279-00267456-00267663 i think you know xTtFwVPCOe8-01280-00267664-00267830 i would say for for students or for xTtFwVPCOe8-01281-00267831-00268079 anyone who wants to get started using xTtFwVPCOe8-01282-00268080-00268255 anvil xTtFwVPCOe8-01283-00268256-00268423 yeah so i think that there's you know xTtFwVPCOe8-01284-00268424-00268623 there's two kinds of prerequisites right xTtFwVPCOe8-01285-00268624-00268782 there's sort of the the sort of xTtFwVPCOe8-01286-00268783-00268958 technical and bureaucratic prerequisites xTtFwVPCOe8-01287-00268959-00269110 like at the moment you kind of have to xTtFwVPCOe8-01288-00269111-00269279 have somebody who's going to set you up xTtFwVPCOe8-01289-00269280-00269439 on the system with a credit card and a xTtFwVPCOe8-01290-00269440-00269575 billing account and all that kind of xTtFwVPCOe8-01291-00269576-00269799 stuff assuming you have that the xTtFwVPCOe8-01292-00269800-00269999 prerequisites in terms of the ability to xTtFwVPCOe8-01293-00270000-00270110 use it xTtFwVPCOe8-01294-00270111-00270334 you know it's it's the three biggest xTtFwVPCOe8-01295-00270335-00270567 tools that i think i see students xTtFwVPCOe8-01296-00270568-00270734 immediately trying to adopt would be xTtFwVPCOe8-01297-00270735-00270967 galaxy as a first point because it's xTtFwVPCOe8-01298-00270968-00271151 sort of it tends to be a tool that gets xTtFwVPCOe8-01299-00271152-00271423 used in early bioinformatics courses xTtFwVPCOe8-01300-00271424-00271679 then r and python depending on you know xTtFwVPCOe8-01301-00271680-00271879 like most stats courses will kind of xTtFwVPCOe8-01302-00271880-00272055 adopt an r model and maybe computer xTtFwVPCOe8-01303-00272056-00272230 science a little bit more of python i'm xTtFwVPCOe8-01304-00272231-00272327 sort of xTtFwVPCOe8-01305-00272328-00272519 being like you know generalistic there xTtFwVPCOe8-01306-00272520-00272727 but but they're sort of one of those xTtFwVPCOe8-01307-00272728-00272951 three main tools or kind of the main xTtFwVPCOe8-01308-00272952-00273279 tools to be used um xTtFwVPCOe8-01309-00273280-00273415 there are other tools that people can do xTtFwVPCOe8-01310-00273416-00273527 they tend to be a little bit more xTtFwVPCOe8-01311-00273528-00273727 advanced though and so xTtFwVPCOe8-01312-00273728-00273847 one of the things we're working on with xTtFwVPCOe8-01313-00273848-00274047 the gescn and other people is a xTtFwVPCOe8-01314-00274048-00274334 collection of introductory examples that xTtFwVPCOe8-01315-00274335-00274527 we can give to people xTtFwVPCOe8-01316-00274528-00274727 you know that focus on those tools so xTtFwVPCOe8-01317-00274728-00274982 that people can try them out but sort of xTtFwVPCOe8-01318-00274983-00275175 we're thinking like the main target xTtFwVPCOe8-01319-00275176-00275382 audiences would be sort of people in a xTtFwVPCOe8-01320-00275383-00275575 bio entry level sort of biology xTtFwVPCOe8-01321-00275576-00275782 bioinformatics class or entry level xTtFwVPCOe8-01322-00275783-00275951 stats class or entry level computer xTtFwVPCOe8-01323-00275952-00276134 science class could xTtFwVPCOe8-01324-00276135-00276415 you know do that work on the anvil xTtFwVPCOe8-01325-00276416-00276734 does that answer the question i hope xTtFwVPCOe8-01326-00276735-00276879 yes xTtFwVPCOe8-01327-00276880-00277134 i would also comment that um a lot of xTtFwVPCOe8-01328-00277135-00277391 this is sort of more of a cultural shift xTtFwVPCOe8-01329-00277392-00277599 than a technology shift xTtFwVPCOe8-01330-00277600-00277806 you know a lot of people you know are xTtFwVPCOe8-01331-00277807-00278103 really you know quite excellent and xTtFwVPCOe8-01332-00278104-00278247 just as a sort of personal example i'm xTtFwVPCOe8-01333-00278248-00278399 teaching undergraduate course right now xTtFwVPCOe8-01334-00278400-00278551 in genomics xTtFwVPCOe8-01335-00278552-00278751 and i've been you know i've been making xTtFwVPCOe8-01336-00278752-00278879 assignments where they write their own xTtFwVPCOe8-01337-00278880-00279071 workflows and you know they've been xTtFwVPCOe8-01338-00279072-00279287 incredibly successful at that it's you xTtFwVPCOe8-01339-00279288-00279510 know maybe that's not for everyone but xTtFwVPCOe8-01340-00279511-00279687 to me the bigger barrier is just the xTtFwVPCOe8-01341-00279688-00279823 cultural shift you know people are very xTtFwVPCOe8-01342-00279824-00280006 comfortable using their own laptops or xTtFwVPCOe8-01343-00280007-00280199 their own computers just moving them xTtFwVPCOe8-01344-00280200-00280367 just you know onto something new is a xTtFwVPCOe8-01345-00280368-00280582 big barrier in itself so it's you know xTtFwVPCOe8-01346-00280583-00280663 it's xTtFwVPCOe8-01347-00280664-00280863 um and it is a big shift and we need to xTtFwVPCOe8-01348-00280864-00281119 help them to do so but but there are xTtFwVPCOe8-01349-00281120-00281255 ways to xTtFwVPCOe8-01350-00281256-00281510 make progress there that i think xTtFwVPCOe8-01351-00281511-00281727 basically anyone could overcome anyone xTtFwVPCOe8-01352-00281728-00281951 can overcome and i'm really um i was xTtFwVPCOe8-01353-00281952-00282095 really pleased to see my undergraduates xTtFwVPCOe8-01354-00282096-00282206 you know kind of figure out how to work xTtFwVPCOe8-01355-00282207-00282303 through whittles and work through xTtFwVPCOe8-01356-00282304-00282743 workflows it is it is doable to do so xTtFwVPCOe8-01357-00282744-00282982 yeah it seems like um like kind of the xTtFwVPCOe8-01358-00282983-00283239 user research xTtFwVPCOe8-01359-00283240-00283487 could be done right on like xTtFwVPCOe8-01360-00283488-00283727 testing out the onboarding materials xTtFwVPCOe8-01361-00283728-00283839 with xTtFwVPCOe8-01362-00283840-00283975 different people xTtFwVPCOe8-01363-00283976-00284167 from different institutions with xTtFwVPCOe8-01364-00284168-00284351 different backgrounds to see xTtFwVPCOe8-01365-00284352-00284623 you know where are people tripping up in xTtFwVPCOe8-01366-00284624-00284871 in the course at this point or xTtFwVPCOe8-01367-00284872-00285087 um does this need to be explained a xTtFwVPCOe8-01368-00285088-00285247 little bit differently xTtFwVPCOe8-01369-00285248-00285599 uh and be expounded upon because there's xTtFwVPCOe8-01370-00285600-00285815 some assumption that we don't even see xTtFwVPCOe8-01371-00285816-00285991 on how much knowledge somebody has xTtFwVPCOe8-01372-00285992-00286103 coming in xTtFwVPCOe8-01373-00286104-00286182 um xTtFwVPCOe8-01374-00286183-00286358 i know one thing that we're doing for xTtFwVPCOe8-01375-00286359-00286710 like anvil powered by tara is we're xTtFwVPCOe8-01376-00286711-00286823 sort of xTtFwVPCOe8-01377-00286824-00287079 trying to replace our workshops that we xTtFwVPCOe8-01378-00287080-00287254 that we usually do and take a lot of xTtFwVPCOe8-01379-00287255-00287543 time to prepare for to present xTtFwVPCOe8-01380-00287544-00287847 um we're trying to replace those with uh xTtFwVPCOe8-01381-00287848-00288167 with courses with with uh moocs xTtFwVPCOe8-01382-00288168-00288358 and the idea would be xTtFwVPCOe8-01383-00288359-00288710 that you could have um these courses xTtFwVPCOe8-01384-00288711-00288919 represent all of your one on 101 xTtFwVPCOe8-01385-00288920-00289119 workshop basics xTtFwVPCOe8-01386-00289120-00289334 and you know usually that can take like xTtFwVPCOe8-01387-00289335-00289406 the xTtFwVPCOe8-01388-00289407-00289695 a while to to like present and go xTtFwVPCOe8-01389-00289696-00289958 through but if we have them already in xTtFwVPCOe8-01390-00289959-00290303 courses they can be you know reused by xTtFwVPCOe8-01391-00290304-00290479 the actual people that are going to the xTtFwVPCOe8-01392-00290480-00290758 workshops to like train other people xTtFwVPCOe8-01393-00290759-00290934 because they can use the courses and xTtFwVPCOe8-01394-00290935-00291167 then it also helps scale the number of xTtFwVPCOe8-01395-00291168-00291439 workshops we can do so we can go xTtFwVPCOe8-01396-00291440-00291510 to xTtFwVPCOe8-01397-00291511-00291719 you know actually build relationships xTtFwVPCOe8-01398-00291720-00291839 with different xTtFwVPCOe8-01399-00291840-00291991 uh you know xTtFwVPCOe8-01400-00291992-00292319 groups and we can we can go to places xTtFwVPCOe8-01401-00292320-00292406 and be xTtFwVPCOe8-01402-00292407-00292671 build relationships and actually like xTtFwVPCOe8-01403-00292672-00292839 not only like xTtFwVPCOe8-01404-00292840-00293095 teach but also leave back you know xTtFwVPCOe8-01405-00293096-00293287 something that someone else can take and xTtFwVPCOe8-01406-00293288-00293615 use going forward um so that's something xTtFwVPCOe8-01407-00293616-00293806 that we're experimenting we're going to xTtFwVPCOe8-01408-00293807-00294039 be doing next year xTtFwVPCOe8-01409-00294040-00294127 um xTtFwVPCOe8-01410-00294128-00294479 and yeah if anybody has any thoughts on xTtFwVPCOe8-01411-00294480-00294791 on that or ways you think we should test xTtFwVPCOe8-01412-00294792-00295063 um the materials um i'll be thinking xTtFwVPCOe8-01413-00295064-00295382 about that at least so xTtFwVPCOe8-01414-00295383-00295639 um i saw titus and mark's hands both go xTtFwVPCOe8-01415-00295640-00295839 up is this like if you guys have a xTtFwVPCOe8-01416-00295840-00295991 comment about what would the current xTtFwVPCOe8-01417-00295992-00296151 discussion please go ahead and just mute xTtFwVPCOe8-01418-00296152-00296367 and go for it um if it's a new question xTtFwVPCOe8-01419-00296368-00296575 then just hang on for one sec but uh xTtFwVPCOe8-01420-00296576-00296775 titus mark xTtFwVPCOe8-01421-00296776-00297110 current discussion or a new question um xTtFwVPCOe8-01422-00297111-00297303 okay great uh bill go ahead and then xTtFwVPCOe8-01423-00297304-00297399 sorry xTtFwVPCOe8-01424-00297400-00297654 uh yeah thank you thank you um xTtFwVPCOe8-01425-00297655-00297775 i guess xTtFwVPCOe8-01426-00297776-00297943 as i've listened to the discussion it xTtFwVPCOe8-01427-00297944-00298047 seems like xTtFwVPCOe8-01428-00298048-00298191 outreach xTtFwVPCOe8-01429-00298192-00298367 is really taken xTtFwVPCOe8-01430-00298368-00298479 two xTtFwVPCOe8-01431-00298480-00298751 buckets one is where you have people xTtFwVPCOe8-01432-00298752-00298927 that already know about xTtFwVPCOe8-01433-00298928-00299047 anvil xTtFwVPCOe8-01434-00299048-00299206 and outreach has xTtFwVPCOe8-01435-00299207-00299415 taken on the role of making it easier xTtFwVPCOe8-01436-00299416-00299606 for those folks to get involved and get xTtFwVPCOe8-01437-00299607-00299887 engaged and using the tool that they xTtFwVPCOe8-01438-00299888-00300119 already see value in and they know about xTtFwVPCOe8-01439-00300120-00300223 already xTtFwVPCOe8-01440-00300224-00300503 and another bucket of outreach is really xTtFwVPCOe8-01441-00300504-00300647 uh xTtFwVPCOe8-01442-00300648-00300847 to people who xTtFwVPCOe8-01443-00300848-00301158 may only have nominal knowledge of what xTtFwVPCOe8-01444-00301159-00301406 anvil is and and how it can be useful to xTtFwVPCOe8-01445-00301407-00301567 their work for their xTtFwVPCOe8-01446-00301568-00301703 of their xTtFwVPCOe8-01447-00301704-00302030 uh research so that and to combine that xTtFwVPCOe8-01448-00302031-00302215 i really like the xTtFwVPCOe8-01449-00302216-00302454 comments about reaching out to faculty xTtFwVPCOe8-01450-00302455-00302710 because i was thinking i work at howard xTtFwVPCOe8-01451-00302711-00302967 university so xTtFwVPCOe8-01452-00302968-00303230 how xTtFwVPCOe8-01453-00303231-00303399 what does it take xTtFwVPCOe8-01454-00303400-00303558 to get a xTtFwVPCOe8-01455-00303559-00303882 sophomore biology student at howard xTtFwVPCOe8-01456-00303883-00304254 university interested in using anvil xTtFwVPCOe8-01457-00304255-00304495 and what the does that process look xTtFwVPCOe8-01458-00304496-00304575 like xTtFwVPCOe8-01459-00304576-00304815 what do you have to do to get to make xTtFwVPCOe8-01460-00304816-00304999 that sophomore biology student howard xTtFwVPCOe8-01461-00305000-00305295 say i want to use anvil for my project xTtFwVPCOe8-01462-00305296-00305582 for my thesis for my summer work xTtFwVPCOe8-01463-00305583-00305863 uh and i was thinking xTtFwVPCOe8-01464-00305864-00306047 the probably the best pathway maybe xTtFwVPCOe8-01465-00306048-00306175 through xTtFwVPCOe8-01466-00306176-00306319 the faculty xTtFwVPCOe8-01467-00306320-00306543 for example xTtFwVPCOe8-01468-00306544-00306682 suppose you gave xTtFwVPCOe8-01469-00306683-00306839 faculty xTtFwVPCOe8-01470-00306840-00306975 instructional xTtFwVPCOe8-01471-00306976-00307151 credits xTtFwVPCOe8-01472-00307152-00307358 such that give them access xTtFwVPCOe8-01473-00307359-00307551 to you and build xTtFwVPCOe8-01474-00307552-00307758 in their classes xTtFwVPCOe8-01475-00307759-00308110 and and and by giving them access to use xTtFwVPCOe8-01476-00308111-00308287 anvil in their classes xTtFwVPCOe8-01477-00308288-00308503 then they're the sophomore biology xTtFwVPCOe8-01478-00308504-00308782 student the one getting exposed to it xTtFwVPCOe8-01479-00308783-00308927 and that's sophomore biology student but xTtFwVPCOe8-01480-00308928-00309199 then see some of the aspects that that xTtFwVPCOe8-01481-00309200-00309367 he or she could use xTtFwVPCOe8-01482-00309368-00309582 and and then it would kind of open up a xTtFwVPCOe8-01483-00309583-00309903 window a potential opportunity to get xTtFwVPCOe8-01484-00309904-00310103 those students involved xTtFwVPCOe8-01485-00310104-00310295 another aspect xTtFwVPCOe8-01486-00310296-00310430 also xTtFwVPCOe8-01487-00310431-00310687 just because you're a phd student xTtFwVPCOe8-01488-00310688-00310967 or post doc a graduate of postdoc it xTtFwVPCOe8-01489-00310968-00311143 doesn't mean that you uh xTtFwVPCOe8-01490-00311144-00311391 know all about uh anvil and and know how xTtFwVPCOe8-01491-00311392-00311630 to use and for example suppose you are xTtFwVPCOe8-01492-00311631-00311847 a graduate student or post-doc xTtFwVPCOe8-01493-00311848-00311958 in an xTtFwVPCOe8-01494-00311959-00312334 uh experimental lab xTtFwVPCOe8-01495-00312335-00312639 doing wet chemistry some sort of thing xTtFwVPCOe8-01496-00312640-00312879 but an aspect of your work could really xTtFwVPCOe8-01497-00312880-00313167 be enhanced or benefited by some of the xTtFwVPCOe8-01498-00313168-00313375 resources that uh xTtFwVPCOe8-01499-00313376-00313815 can provide how do you get that person xTtFwVPCOe8-01500-00313816-00313958 knowledgeable enough xTtFwVPCOe8-01501-00313959-00314230 about anvil to say that's a tool i need xTtFwVPCOe8-01502-00314231-00314471 to use in my work xTtFwVPCOe8-01503-00314472-00314534 so xTtFwVPCOe8-01504-00314535-00314863 so so is are there um xTtFwVPCOe8-01505-00314864-00315143 are there ways to to reach out xTtFwVPCOe8-01506-00315144-00315382 to the undergraduate level and also to xTtFwVPCOe8-01507-00315383-00315582 the graduate and post-doc level i know xTtFwVPCOe8-01508-00315583-00315775 there are different pathways but but to xTtFwVPCOe8-01509-00315776-00316047 reach out to for example if there's a xTtFwVPCOe8-01510-00316048-00316223 postdoc still says a graduate student xTtFwVPCOe8-01511-00316224-00316482 working with phd xTtFwVPCOe8-01512-00316483-00316903 in in minor problems in biochemistry xTtFwVPCOe8-01513-00316904-00317175 that's traditionally a wet chemistry xTtFwVPCOe8-01514-00317176-00317310 type work xTtFwVPCOe8-01515-00317311-00317382 so xTtFwVPCOe8-01516-00317383-00317647 so um say the study is studying uh xTtFwVPCOe8-01517-00317648-00317882 mechanisms of xTtFwVPCOe8-01518-00317883-00318247 diabetes so so xTtFwVPCOe8-01519-00318248-00318527 is there a way that this student can xTtFwVPCOe8-01520-00318528-00318791 understand that anvil xTtFwVPCOe8-01521-00318792-00319103 is a way of understanding xTtFwVPCOe8-01522-00319104-00319327 biochemical or genetic basis of disease xTtFwVPCOe8-01523-00319328-00319471 processes xTtFwVPCOe8-01524-00319472-00319615 and that would turn on the lights and xTtFwVPCOe8-01525-00319616-00319871 maybe i can use it to understand the xTtFwVPCOe8-01526-00319872-00320127 disease process that i'm studying xTtFwVPCOe8-01527-00320128-00320463 so so uh those are two ways i i don't xTtFwVPCOe8-01528-00320464-00320719 have real good suggestions on how to xTtFwVPCOe8-01529-00320720-00320958 solve those but i think xTtFwVPCOe8-01530-00320959-00321175 solving those would broaden the xTtFwVPCOe8-01531-00321176-00321399 footprint of access xTtFwVPCOe8-01532-00321400-00321751 and interest in anvil xTtFwVPCOe8-01533-00321752-00321967 i'll say those are amazing suggestions xTtFwVPCOe8-01534-00321968-00322254 and and uh i would say that our initial xTtFwVPCOe8-01535-00322255-00322367 effort we didn't i didn't get to talk xTtFwVPCOe8-01536-00322368-00322479 about it too much because we were sort xTtFwVPCOe8-01537-00322480-00322647 of blazing through lots of things the xTtFwVPCOe8-01538-00322648-00322815 outreach team is doing but the the xTtFwVPCOe8-01539-00322816-00322943 closest to what you're talking about xTtFwVPCOe8-01540-00322944-00323110 that we're doing right now is this gde xTtFwVPCOe8-01541-00323111-00323247 scn xTtFwVPCOe8-01542-00323248-00323454 effort and so there we're kind of xTtFwVPCOe8-01543-00323455-00323647 getting faculty that are at these xTtFwVPCOe8-01544-00323648-00323887 institutions and trying to build xTtFwVPCOe8-01545-00323888-00324006 with them xTtFwVPCOe8-01546-00324007-00324206 shareable open source curriculum so say xTtFwVPCOe8-01547-00324207-00324399 you're a faculty at howard and you want xTtFwVPCOe8-01548-00324400-00324630 to deliver this course to your xTtFwVPCOe8-01549-00324631-00324854 you know teach your course about xTtFwVPCOe8-01550-00324855-00325030 biochemistry but you want to include a xTtFwVPCOe8-01551-00325031-00325223 little bit of anvil in there if there's xTtFwVPCOe8-01552-00325224-00325415 already a pre-prepped lesson plan and xTtFwVPCOe8-01553-00325416-00325582 some annual credits then you can take it xTtFwVPCOe8-01554-00325583-00325782 off the shelf and share it and you know xTtFwVPCOe8-01555-00325783-00325934 then you tweak it however you like it xTtFwVPCOe8-01556-00325935-00326063 and then share it back to the group and xTtFwVPCOe8-01557-00326064-00326239 maybe a biochemistry professor somewhere xTtFwVPCOe8-01558-00326240-00326551 else can use it so so we're just on the xTtFwVPCOe8-01559-00326552-00326743 beginning of building those curriculum xTtFwVPCOe8-01560-00326744-00326887 we have our first example which we can xTtFwVPCOe8-01561-00326888-00327103 probably place a link to here on galaxy xTtFwVPCOe8-01562-00327104-00327319 using galaxy like this but our goal is xTtFwVPCOe8-01563-00327320-00327543 to build more curriculum like that xTtFwVPCOe8-01564-00327544-00327758 and then provide cloud credits again the xTtFwVPCOe8-01565-00327759-00327967 billing is always the place where it xTtFwVPCOe8-01566-00327968-00328143 gets a little challenging but xTtFwVPCOe8-01567-00328144-00328327 we have some cloud credit programs that xTtFwVPCOe8-01568-00328328-00328478 we could definitely use to support that xTtFwVPCOe8-01569-00328479-00328687 kind of educational effort so that's xTtFwVPCOe8-01570-00328688-00329215 that's great xTtFwVPCOe8-01571-00329216-00329503 lots of things saurav titus mark and xTtFwVPCOe8-01572-00329504-00329767 levi i actually wanted to thank mike for xTtFwVPCOe8-01573-00329768-00329927 sharing the document for his xTtFwVPCOe8-01574-00329928-00330167 undergraduate course it was very helpful xTtFwVPCOe8-01575-00330168-00330503 uh as mike knows it is more probably xTtFwVPCOe8-01576-00330504-00330782 related to gdsm i teach xTtFwVPCOe8-01577-00330783-00330951 both undergraduate and graduate xTtFwVPCOe8-01578-00330952-00331199 bioinformatics and a lot of tools are xTtFwVPCOe8-01579-00331200-00331463 used in those programs so i can easily xTtFwVPCOe8-01580-00331464-00331791 incorporate and will into those and xTtFwVPCOe8-01581-00331792-00332071 students can start using that if it is xTtFwVPCOe8-01582-00332072-00332375 made xTtFwVPCOe8-01583-00332376-00332551 feel free to reach out if you ever want xTtFwVPCOe8-01584-00332552-00332871 to discuss more yeah sure mike i would xTtFwVPCOe8-01585-00332872-00333151 we need to do this offline i mean we i xTtFwVPCOe8-01586-00333152-00333415 had shared my course document with you xTtFwVPCOe8-01587-00333416-00333719 probably syllabus before when shoujo had xTtFwVPCOe8-01588-00333720-00333919 introduced but then we can do this xTtFwVPCOe8-01589-00333920-00334199 offline of this discussion xTtFwVPCOe8-01590-00334200-00334430 and um really good participation are xTtFwVPCOe8-01591-00334431-00334654 there any discussants who uh haven't had xTtFwVPCOe8-01592-00334655-00334878 a chance to talk or write into the chat xTtFwVPCOe8-01593-00334879-00335127 yet that um that would uh xTtFwVPCOe8-01594-00335128-00335271 take this opportunity xTtFwVPCOe8-01595-00335272-00335382 i hope we've helped we've gotten to xTtFwVPCOe8-01596-00335383-00335695 everybody xTtFwVPCOe8-01597-00335696-00336054 uh yeah sure titus go ahead please xTtFwVPCOe8-01598-00336055-00336263 sid uh as a as a strategy you need to xTtFwVPCOe8-01599-00336264-00336447 let the silence become uncomfortable if xTtFwVPCOe8-01600-00336448-00336623 you want people who haven't spoken xTtFwVPCOe8-01601-00336624-00336767 to speak up xTtFwVPCOe8-01602-00336768-00336967 well here we go 15 seconds i'm just i'm xTtFwVPCOe8-01603-00336968-00337087 i'm just kidding i'm just not you're xTtFwVPCOe8-01604-00337088-00337319 right i'm not kidding but but you know xTtFwVPCOe8-01605-00337320-00337399 um xTtFwVPCOe8-01606-00337400-00337471 so xTtFwVPCOe8-01607-00337472-00337751 um so so we have lots of i have lots of xTtFwVPCOe8-01608-00337752-00337919 experience in my group and my various xTtFwVPCOe8-01609-00337920-00338127 efforts with the various modalities of xTtFwVPCOe8-01610-00338128-00338271 cloud sign up we've been doing this for xTtFwVPCOe8-01611-00338272-00338399 over a decade we've been through this xTtFwVPCOe8-01612-00338400-00338710 with amazon and google compute we now go xTtFwVPCOe8-01613-00338711-00338951 we now go through a progression for xTtFwVPCOe8-01614-00338952-00339143 example we start with binder which which xTtFwVPCOe8-01615-00339144-00339406 offers a free rstudio server no sign up xTtFwVPCOe8-01616-00339407-00339591 literally click a link boom it's it's xTtFwVPCOe8-01617-00339592-00339695 there xTtFwVPCOe8-01618-00339696-00339823 and that's for up to three hour xTtFwVPCOe8-01619-00339824-00340071 workshops we use amazon classes we use xTtFwVPCOe8-01620-00340072-00340334 amazon web services im for like three xTtFwVPCOe8-01621-00340335-00340463 hour-ish xTtFwVPCOe8-01622-00340464-00340606 things where we can create accounts and xTtFwVPCOe8-01623-00340607-00340782 delete them easily and assume the xTtFwVPCOe8-01624-00340783-00340982 billing responsibilities no credit card xTtFwVPCOe8-01625-00340983-00341078 needed xTtFwVPCOe8-01626-00341079-00341278 ssh key is sometimes needed which can be xTtFwVPCOe8-01627-00341279-00341503 a problem and then we do we we support xTtFwVPCOe8-01628-00341504-00341678 group accounts and individuals sign up xTtFwVPCOe8-01629-00341679-00341919 for for more than three hour you know xTtFwVPCOe8-01630-00341920-00342175 week long two week long and longer um xTtFwVPCOe8-01631-00342176-00342287 and the thing is you want all of these xTtFwVPCOe8-01632-00342288-00342447 working right because they legitimize xTtFwVPCOe8-01633-00342448-00342671 peripheral engagement uh and provide a xTtFwVPCOe8-01634-00342672-00342854 pathway to while providing a pathway to xTtFwVPCOe8-01635-00342855-00343095 increased engagement and the cool thing xTtFwVPCOe8-01636-00343096-00343254 and i think this fits for anvil as well xTtFwVPCOe8-01637-00343255-00343375 transitioning between them isn't xTtFwVPCOe8-01638-00343376-00343567 actually that hard right you have our xTtFwVPCOe8-01639-00343568-00343791 studio across all of them you have the xTtFwVPCOe8-01640-00343792-00343975 command line across all of them and so xTtFwVPCOe8-01641-00343976-00344078 it's actually a great learning xTtFwVPCOe8-01642-00344079-00344254 experience for the user they get oh i xTtFwVPCOe8-01643-00344255-00344471 can do something in our studio oh and xTtFwVPCOe8-01644-00344472-00344654 now i can log into an account and have a xTtFwVPCOe8-01645-00344655-00344863 persistent r studio for a bit yay and xTtFwVPCOe8-01646-00344864-00345071 then oh now i can like log out and log xTtFwVPCOe8-01647-00345072-00345230 back in a week later and it's all still xTtFwVPCOe8-01648-00345231-00345327 there xTtFwVPCOe8-01649-00345328-00345519 um the challenge right now seems to be xTtFwVPCOe8-01650-00345520-00345782 that anvil doesn't support xTtFwVPCOe8-01651-00345783-00346087 many of those modes of of um of xTtFwVPCOe8-01652-00346088-00346287 engagement around new accounts and so on xTtFwVPCOe8-01653-00346288-00346495 and that sounds like something that xTtFwVPCOe8-01654-00346496-00346734 this group the training group wants xTtFwVPCOe8-01655-00346735-00346919 would like to see but that isn't xTtFwVPCOe8-01656-00346920-00347063 supported on the infrastructure side so xTtFwVPCOe8-01657-00347064-00347182 i just want to make sure clear that xTtFwVPCOe8-01658-00347183-00347454 that's both an opportunity and a threat xTtFwVPCOe8-01659-00347455-00347654 you can align technology you can align xTtFwVPCOe8-01660-00347655-00347775 the training xTtFwVPCOe8-01661-00347776-00347958 side with the technology side of anvil xTtFwVPCOe8-01662-00347959-00348158 across all these training modalities xTtFwVPCOe8-01663-00348159-00348399 and and potentially transform xTtFwVPCOe8-01664-00348400-00349047 uh uh both anvil's user base and the the xTtFwVPCOe8-01665-00349048-00349230 data science the threat is that if this xTtFwVPCOe8-01666-00349231-00349439 doesn't happen then if if you don't have xTtFwVPCOe8-01667-00349440-00349663 that alignment where you can do easy and xTtFwVPCOe8-01668-00349664-00349847 cheap sign up then that transformation xTtFwVPCOe8-01669-00349848-00349975 may not occur xTtFwVPCOe8-01670-00349976-00350134 this also ties into this other thing xTtFwVPCOe8-01671-00350135-00350327 that i think i threw into the threat and xTtFwVPCOe8-01672-00350328-00350478 the opportunity side which is the sort xTtFwVPCOe8-01673-00350479-00350719 of threat that anvil becomes a dead end xTtFwVPCOe8-01674-00350720-00350863 what i mean by that is none of us want xTtFwVPCOe8-01675-00350864-00351063 to be in a situation where we xTtFwVPCOe8-01676-00351064-00351278 put a semester of training into a xTtFwVPCOe8-01677-00351279-00351471 student for example and then they walk xTtFwVPCOe8-01678-00351472-00351623 out and they can no longer use what xTtFwVPCOe8-01679-00351624-00351815 we've trained them in this happens xTtFwVPCOe8-01680-00351816-00352087 a lot with technology um and i like the xTtFwVPCOe8-01681-00352088-00352239 fact that anvil is built on a bunch of xTtFwVPCOe8-01682-00352240-00352439 really standard technologies right like xTtFwVPCOe8-01683-00352440-00352639 the workflow systems the data analysis xTtFwVPCOe8-01684-00352640-00352999 systems are python bioconductor all is xTtFwVPCOe8-01685-00353000-00353254 wonderful i think xTtFwVPCOe8-01686-00353255-00353471 a long-term threat for anvil would be to xTtFwVPCOe8-01687-00353472-00353710 make sure or a long-term opportunity for xTtFwVPCOe8-01688-00353711-00353854 anvil would be to double down on that xTtFwVPCOe8-01689-00353855-00353958 like xTtFwVPCOe8-01690-00353959-00354134 we're doing everything with standard xTtFwVPCOe8-01691-00354135-00354343 platforms as much as possible and there xTtFwVPCOe8-01692-00354344-00354663 is very little only the necessary stuff xTtFwVPCOe8-01693-00354664-00354943 around data use and privacy and so on is xTtFwVPCOe8-01694-00354944-00355254 is really specific to anvil and and tara xTtFwVPCOe8-01695-00355255-00355471 and gen 3 and the other other platforms xTtFwVPCOe8-01696-00355472-00355710 you're using so um i put all that into xTtFwVPCOe8-01697-00355711-00355903 the document that that's my biggest sort xTtFwVPCOe8-01698-00355904-00356158 of threat opportunity dichotomy for for xTtFwVPCOe8-01699-00356159-00356606 anvil at the moment xTtFwVPCOe8-01700-00356607-00356854 great um and and uh tiffany is uh uh xTtFwVPCOe8-01701-00356855-00357054 advising us yeah we're so we're down to xTtFwVPCOe8-01702-00357055-00357239 10 minutes and we'll probably spend some xTtFwVPCOe8-01703-00357240-00357463 time doing the summaration the summation xTtFwVPCOe8-01704-00357464-00357678 of the slot um but mark can leave please xTtFwVPCOe8-01705-00357679-00357943 go ahead you have your hands down so xTtFwVPCOe8-01706-00357944-00358167 so my apologies if i missed this but i xTtFwVPCOe8-01707-00358168-00358303 don't think i've heard anything about xTtFwVPCOe8-01708-00358304-00358551 the nhgri training grants during this xTtFwVPCOe8-01709-00358552-00358678 discussion xTtFwVPCOe8-01710-00358679-00358854 and it seems like that the trainees on xTtFwVPCOe8-01711-00358855-00359006 those students right are the next xTtFwVPCOe8-01712-00359007-00359215 generation of leading genomics xTtFwVPCOe8-01713-00359216-00359358 researchers xTtFwVPCOe8-01714-00359359-00359510 and so i'm wondering if andel's done xTtFwVPCOe8-01715-00359511-00359710 anything to try to reach out to enlist xTtFwVPCOe8-01716-00359711-00360006 those trainees as anvil users you know xTtFwVPCOe8-01717-00360007-00360182 for example i know they have an annual xTtFwVPCOe8-01718-00360183-00360423 meeting um has anything been presented xTtFwVPCOe8-01719-00360424-00360575 at that annual meeting to try to get xTtFwVPCOe8-01720-00360576-00360782 them involved xTtFwVPCOe8-01721-00360783-00361006 uh mark i'll take that one that is that xTtFwVPCOe8-01722-00361007-00361239 is a wonderful insightful comment i i xTtFwVPCOe8-01723-00361240-00361510 happen to be the person that is part of xTtFwVPCOe8-01724-00361511-00361647 both the anvil xTtFwVPCOe8-01725-00361648-00361871 training and outreach group and a member xTtFwVPCOe8-01726-00361872-00362087 of the extramural training team here at xTtFwVPCOe8-01727-00362088-00362327 the genome institute so this xTtFwVPCOe8-01728-00362328-00362558 mark is the first year that we feel the xTtFwVPCOe8-01729-00362559-00362799 anvil is in a position to be put in the xTtFwVPCOe8-01730-00362800-00362958 hands of trainees xTtFwVPCOe8-01731-00362959-00363230 so literally uh and xTtFwVPCOe8-01732-00363231-00363487 teddy or carolyn or others on the call xTtFwVPCOe8-01733-00363488-00363615 please feel free to chime in but xTtFwVPCOe8-01734-00363616-00363791 literally starting this year xTtFwVPCOe8-01735-00363792-00363999 we are in the process of integrating xTtFwVPCOe8-01736-00364000-00364278 anvil into what could be used by our xTtFwVPCOe8-01737-00364279-00364415 trainees you know for example at the xTtFwVPCOe8-01738-00364416-00364654 trainee meeting next year there will be xTtFwVPCOe8-01739-00364655-00364854 presentations on the anvil there will be xTtFwVPCOe8-01740-00364855-00365127 use cases so you're making this comment xTtFwVPCOe8-01741-00365128-00365439 right as we internally here said uh now xTtFwVPCOe8-01742-00365440-00365671 i think we are ready to put anvil in the xTtFwVPCOe8-01743-00365672-00365878 hands of the trainees so watch out by xTtFwVPCOe8-01744-00365879-00366023 this time next year hopefully we have xTtFwVPCOe8-01745-00366024-00366239 many trainees using the envelope great xTtFwVPCOe8-01746-00366240-00366415 glad to hear it thank you sir my xTtFwVPCOe8-01747-00366416-00367295 pleasure mark thank you xTtFwVPCOe8-01748-00367296-00367463 and it helps to find mute last comment xTtFwVPCOe8-01749-00367464-00367654 from levi and then we'll move on to uh xTtFwVPCOe8-01750-00367655-00367839 for another one xTtFwVPCOe8-01751-00367840-00368071 i just wanted to respond to xTtFwVPCOe8-01752-00368072-00368327 bill's uh comment about getting students xTtFwVPCOe8-01753-00368328-00368695 using anvil and and say that um xTtFwVPCOe8-01754-00368696-00368934 thanks to this deep pilots xTtFwVPCOe8-01755-00368935-00369110 program from the xTtFwVPCOe8-01756-00369111-00369391 the outreach team i'm doing that with xTtFwVPCOe8-01757-00369392-00369510 my class xTtFwVPCOe8-01758-00369511-00369743 this fall and they're not xTtFwVPCOe8-01759-00369744-00369934 advanced computational xTtFwVPCOe8-01760-00369935-00370151 students they're epidemiology and xTtFwVPCOe8-01761-00370152-00370415 biostatistics students but they need to xTtFwVPCOe8-01762-00370416-00370551 use xTtFwVPCOe8-01763-00370552-00370958 our studio for for their analysis um xTtFwVPCOe8-01764-00370959-00371054 and xTtFwVPCOe8-01765-00371055-00371327 it's i think it's been really successful xTtFwVPCOe8-01766-00371328-00371567 i've had high uptake of it and really no xTtFwVPCOe8-01767-00371568-00371823 complaints at all about it and i've had xTtFwVPCOe8-01768-00371824-00372006 more and more students start using it as xTtFwVPCOe8-01769-00372007-00372223 the semester goes on just because as xTtFwVPCOe8-01770-00372224-00372382 soon as they have some problem on their xTtFwVPCOe8-01771-00372383-00372687 laptop i say well use anvil then xTtFwVPCOe8-01772-00372688-00372830 um xTtFwVPCOe8-01773-00372831-00372958 and xTtFwVPCOe8-01774-00372959-00373143 you know it's it's xTtFwVPCOe8-01775-00373144-00373367 i think it's not that hard to do xTtFwVPCOe8-01776-00373368-00373678 um and i'm working on trying to make an xTtFwVPCOe8-01777-00373679-00373919 easy set of instructions for other xTtFwVPCOe8-01778-00373920-00374063 um for other xTtFwVPCOe8-01779-00374064-00374334 uh professors to follow but the big xTtFwVPCOe8-01780-00374335-00374519 thing is they're just yeah being some xTtFwVPCOe8-01781-00374520-00374854 some money to put on a workspace so that xTtFwVPCOe8-01782-00374855-00375047 you know all students have to do is sign xTtFwVPCOe8-01783-00375048-00375230 up and give me the email address they xTtFwVPCOe8-01784-00375231-00375382 used to sign up and then they're a xTtFwVPCOe8-01785-00375383-00375543 member of the workspace and it tells xTtFwVPCOe8-01786-00375544-00375943 them how to get started xTtFwVPCOe8-01787-00375944-00376182 these are all um really really uh useful xTtFwVPCOe8-01788-00376183-00376415 comments um i think we're xTtFwVPCOe8-01789-00376416-00376575 when we switch over to xTtFwVPCOe8-01790-00376576-00376791 chris if you can put up the slide um if xTtFwVPCOe8-01791-00376792-00376951 you're ready for that and we'll just xTtFwVPCOe8-01792-00376952-00377191 kind of decide as group um if we need to xTtFwVPCOe8-01793-00377192-00377510 change anything xTtFwVPCOe8-01794-00377511-00377702 great we'll go there yes just a second xTtFwVPCOe8-01795-00377703-00378071 here yeah there's also been a really xTtFwVPCOe8-01796-00378072-00378254 helpful thoughts going to notes document xTtFwVPCOe8-01797-00378255-00378406 so i xTtFwVPCOe8-01798-00378407-00378751 was not able to xTtFwVPCOe8-01799-00378752-00379382 pull all of those in yet xTtFwVPCOe8-01800-00379383-00379482 is that xTtFwVPCOe8-01801-00379483-00379839 sharing yes i see your thoughts okay xTtFwVPCOe8-01802-00379840-00380110 is that legible xTtFwVPCOe8-01803-00380111-00380406 yes xTtFwVPCOe8-01804-00380407-00380639 it was xTtFwVPCOe8-01805-00380640-00380791 okay don't you just kind of run through xTtFwVPCOe8-01806-00380792-00380902 some of what xTtFwVPCOe8-01807-00380903-00381047 is captured and then we can see what's xTtFwVPCOe8-01808-00381048-00381271 missing or yeah and if you know if we xTtFwVPCOe8-01809-00381272-00381430 have uh something is lost in translation xTtFwVPCOe8-01810-00381431-00381663 please uh anybody chime in and uh you xTtFwVPCOe8-01811-00381664-00381878 don't have to raise your hand just xTtFwVPCOe8-01812-00381879-00381958 so xTtFwVPCOe8-01813-00381959-00382199 you have the low activation energy xTtFwVPCOe8-01814-00382200-00382430 relative to purchasing um computing xTtFwVPCOe8-01815-00382431-00382678 resources was one of the strengths xTtFwVPCOe8-01816-00382679-00382815 the ability to really get more xTtFwVPCOe8-01817-00382816-00383127 geographic diversity of users xTtFwVPCOe8-01818-00383128-00383295 heard a number of people commending the xTtFwVPCOe8-01819-00383296-00383567 deep pilots and other other sort of xTtFwVPCOe8-01820-00383568-00383782 forms of direct engagement the new user xTtFwVPCOe8-01821-00383783-00383982 credits xTtFwVPCOe8-01822-00383983-00384391 also the documentation and the forums xTtFwVPCOe8-01823-00384392-00384551 other things that xTtFwVPCOe8-01824-00384552-00384751 are missing here xTtFwVPCOe8-01825-00384752-00384982 i would just add in the quality of just xTtFwVPCOe8-01826-00384983-00385167 engaged participants you know to see so xTtFwVPCOe8-01827-00385168-00385343 many people coming back for different xTtFwVPCOe8-01828-00385344-00385495 meetings and being engaged in all the xTtFwVPCOe8-01829-00385496-00385599 other xTtFwVPCOe8-01830-00385600-00385815 outreach events so xTtFwVPCOe8-01831-00385816-00386054 supportive network supportive engaged xTtFwVPCOe8-01832-00386055-00386430 participants xTtFwVPCOe8-01833-00386431-00386623 should we qualify more about the credits xTtFwVPCOe8-01834-00386624-00386982 for new users xTtFwVPCOe8-01835-00386983-00387239 because xTtFwVPCOe8-01836-00387240-00387567 i was just thinking that's um xTtFwVPCOe8-01837-00387568-00387647 that xTtFwVPCOe8-01838-00387648-00387878 this is is this referring to the program xTtFwVPCOe8-01839-00387879-00388295 the new program xTtFwVPCOe8-01840-00388296-00388615 oh provided by google okay xTtFwVPCOe8-01841-00388616-00389551 got it thanks xTtFwVPCOe8-01842-00389552-00389758 i would add like ac2 to that comment xTtFwVPCOe8-01843-00389759-00390647 right xTtFwVPCOe8-01844-00390648-00390751 okay xTtFwVPCOe8-01845-00390752-00390895 weaknesses xTtFwVPCOe8-01846-00390896-00391071 the opposite here the high activation xTtFwVPCOe8-01847-00391072-00391263 energy compared to using something you xTtFwVPCOe8-01848-00391264-00391615 already have xTtFwVPCOe8-01849-00391616-00391719 the fact that there are so many xTtFwVPCOe8-01850-00391720-00391871 different tools and capabilities that xTtFwVPCOe8-01851-00391872-00392263 supporting them all becomes challenging xTtFwVPCOe8-01852-00392264-00392478 the build the cost the actual dollars xTtFwVPCOe8-01853-00392479-00392647 that spent you have to spend and then xTtFwVPCOe8-01854-00392648-00392878 the difficulty in um actually being able xTtFwVPCOe8-01855-00392879-00392991 to pay xTtFwVPCOe8-01856-00392992-00393175 those dollars xTtFwVPCOe8-01857-00393176-00393430 there's the lack of a free usage here xTtFwVPCOe8-01858-00393431-00393705 you need to create an account xTtFwVPCOe8-01859-00393706-00393847 [Music] xTtFwVPCOe8-01860-00393848-00394143 the lack of video documentation xTtFwVPCOe8-01861-00394144-00394278 some of the intrinsic difficulty in xTtFwVPCOe8-01862-00394279-00394615 platform integration xTtFwVPCOe8-01863-00394616-00394743 lack of a xTtFwVPCOe8-01864-00394744-00394951 lower slope entry point xTtFwVPCOe8-01865-00394952-00395223 and uh lack of advertising awareness xTtFwVPCOe8-01866-00395224-00395478 gdscn was called out xTtFwVPCOe8-01867-00395479-00395767 chris i i would i would um oh i'm sorry xTtFwVPCOe8-01868-00395768-00395999 robert go ahead i was just going to add xTtFwVPCOe8-01869-00396000-00396239 in one point and that is the the xTtFwVPCOe8-01870-00396240-00396487 the fear that it might be a dead-end xTtFwVPCOe8-01871-00396488-00396567 um xTtFwVPCOe8-01872-00396568-00396751 utility xTtFwVPCOe8-01873-00396752-00397006 you know if say nih decided in five xTtFwVPCOe8-01874-00397007-00397334 years it didn't once poor anvil xTtFwVPCOe8-01875-00397335-00397463 people would then be very worried that xTtFwVPCOe8-01876-00397464-00397606 they've invested all this time and xTtFwVPCOe8-01877-00397607-00397863 energy into switching over to using the xTtFwVPCOe8-01878-00397864-00398143 the anvil ecosystem xTtFwVPCOe8-01879-00398144-00398271 i i don't know what the long-term xTtFwVPCOe8-01880-00398272-00398582 support support plan is by nih so xTtFwVPCOe8-01881-00398583-00398671 um xTtFwVPCOe8-01882-00398672-00398782 that that needs to be better xTtFwVPCOe8-01883-00398783-00399223 communicated as well xTtFwVPCOe8-01884-00399224-00399502 so the thing that i wanted to add is uh xTtFwVPCOe8-01885-00399503-00399663 i think there's there's xTtFwVPCOe8-01886-00399664-00399830 i wanted to expand on the lack of free xTtFwVPCOe8-01887-00399831-00400110 tier one is credit cards specifically xTtFwVPCOe8-01888-00400111-00400254 are a really big barrier it's not just xTtFwVPCOe8-01889-00400255-00400487 creating an account it's credit cards xTtFwVPCOe8-01890-00400488-00400727 and the other is the need for security xTtFwVPCOe8-01891-00400728-00400910 review xTtFwVPCOe8-01892-00400911-00401054 that's usually tied to putting in a xTtFwVPCOe8-01893-00401055-00401215 credit an institutional credit card xTtFwVPCOe8-01894-00401216-00401302 number xTtFwVPCOe8-01895-00401303-00401510 um creating accounts everybody's happy xTtFwVPCOe8-01896-00401511-00401743 to make a throwaway account on a new xTtFwVPCOe8-01897-00401744-00402527 service i mean approximately it's the xTtFwVPCOe8-01898-00402528-00403119 okay xTtFwVPCOe8-01899-00403120-00403415 the opportunities um heard a lot about xTtFwVPCOe8-01900-00403416-00403606 retraining faculty and data science and xTtFwVPCOe8-01901-00403607-00403847 the envelope potentially being a place xTtFwVPCOe8-01902-00403848-00404063 for that xTtFwVPCOe8-01903-00404064-00404230 but also recognizing their specific xTtFwVPCOe8-01904-00404231-00404527 perspectives xTtFwVPCOe8-01905-00404528-00404710 just that everyone's encountering these xTtFwVPCOe8-01906-00404711-00404895 barriers to using the cloud and maybe xTtFwVPCOe8-01907-00404896-00405087 anvil can help provide some materials xTtFwVPCOe8-01908-00405088-00405263 that are standard xTtFwVPCOe8-01909-00405264-00405902 and just awareness normalizing all this xTtFwVPCOe8-01910-00405903-00406087 opportunity to kind of conduct research xTtFwVPCOe8-01911-00406088-00406247 on how people are discovering and using xTtFwVPCOe8-01912-00406248-00406575 anvil xTtFwVPCOe8-01913-00406576-00406727 the opportunity to normalize the use of xTtFwVPCOe8-01914-00406728-00406871 the cloud for the next generation of xTtFwVPCOe8-01915-00406872-00407095 researchers xTtFwVPCOe8-01916-00407096-00407302 to reach xTtFwVPCOe8-01917-00407303-00407495 faculty and provide resources to really xTtFwVPCOe8-01918-00407496-00407758 integrate anvil into coursework under xTtFwVPCOe8-01919-00407759-00408063 special undergraduate coursework xTtFwVPCOe8-01920-00408064-00408358 some discussion of like titus's comment xTtFwVPCOe8-01921-00408359-00408495 oops different xTtFwVPCOe8-01922-00408496-00408751 scales for signing up user engagement xTtFwVPCOe8-01923-00408752-00408919 course documentation xTtFwVPCOe8-01924-00408920-00409078 looks like we are about to exit this xTtFwVPCOe8-01925-00409079-00409263 group xTtFwVPCOe8-01926-00409264-00409423 there's retraining xTtFwVPCOe8-01927-00409424-00409622 opportunities for retraining current xTtFwVPCOe8-01928-00409623-00409807 workforces is really xTtFwVPCOe8-01929-00409808-00410087 it was really strong in my view my xTtFwVPCOe8-01930-00410088-00410422 memory xTtFwVPCOe8-01931-00410423-00410566 i think recognizing we're about to leave xTtFwVPCOe8-01932-00410567-00410734 here um xTtFwVPCOe8-01933-00410735-00411199 said any last words you want to wrap up xTtFwVPCOe8-01934-00411200-00411447 i think this is uh this is awesome we'll xTtFwVPCOe8-01935-00411447-00411599 see you guys back in the main session xTtFwVPCOe8-01936-00411600-00411855 and uh this is really helpful i i xTtFwVPCOe8-01937-00411856-00412030 uh looking forward to hearing from this xTtFwVPCOe8-01938-00412031-00412263 group again in the future xTtFwVPCOe8-01939-00412264-00412430 thanks everyone for the comments in the xTtFwVPCOe8-01940-00412431-00412622 um google doc you can keep them coming xTtFwVPCOe8-01941-00412623-00413039 um briefly after this xTtFwVPCOe8-01942-00413039-00413383 thanks everyone thank you thank you