_Www8lNRogu-00001-00005684-00008483 foreign _Www8lNRogu-00004-00019684-00021083 foreign _Www8lNRogu-00007-00037884-00039283 foreign _Www8lNRogu-00010-00061155-00061455 foreign _X-NgOi3SvA-00000-00000104-00000327 hi extension this is allison link and _X-NgOi3SvA-00001-00000328-00000503 i'm going to show you quickly how to add _X-NgOi3SvA-00002-00000504-00000751 closed captions to your youtube videos _X-NgOi3SvA-00003-00000752-00000927 now one important thing to remember is _X-NgOi3SvA-00004-00000927-00001150 that the youtube interface changes _X-NgOi3SvA-00005-00001151-00001366 pretty much constantly it is a huge _X-NgOi3SvA-00006-00001367-00001558 moving target so _X-NgOi3SvA-00007-00001559-00001695 depending on when you're accessing this _X-NgOi3SvA-00008-00001696-00001934 video and where youtube's at _X-NgOi3SvA-00009-00001935-00002126 the interface might look a little _X-NgOi3SvA-00010-00002127-00002271 different from what you're seeing here _X-NgOi3SvA-00011-00002272-00002487 but the principles will be more or less _X-NgOi3SvA-00012-00002488-00002623 the same alright so just be a little _X-NgOi3SvA-00013-00002624-00002750 tolerant if youtube looks a little _X-NgOi3SvA-00014-00002751-00002879 different when you actually go in to _X-NgOi3SvA-00015-00002880-00003095 edit your captions but most of the _X-NgOi3SvA-00016-00003096-00003359 functionality should still be there _X-NgOi3SvA-00017-00003360-00003599 one big question why should you close _X-NgOi3SvA-00018-00003600-00003838 caption your videos well i think a lot _X-NgOi3SvA-00019-00003839-00004086 of you have a pretty good idea of closed _X-NgOi3SvA-00020-00004087-00004286 captions as being a really important _X-NgOi3SvA-00021-00004287-00004543 part of ensuring accessibility for a lot _X-NgOi3SvA-00022-00004544-00004759 of different audiences you might think _X-NgOi3SvA-00023-00004760-00004967 of first of hard of hearing or hearing _X-NgOi3SvA-00024-00004968-00005159 impaired audiences so that's a huge _X-NgOi3SvA-00025-00005160-00005286 thing you need to close caption your _X-NgOi3SvA-00026-00005287-00005551 video so that hearing impaired audiences _X-NgOi3SvA-00027-00005552-00005686 can have access to the content in your _X-NgOi3SvA-00028-00005687-00005943 video but another important part is i'm _X-NgOi3SvA-00029-00005944-00006134 english language learners for example _X-NgOi3SvA-00030-00006135-00006327 might choose to turn on captions when _X-NgOi3SvA-00031-00006328-00006454 they're viewing your video just to make _X-NgOi3SvA-00032-00006455-00006727 it a little easier to understand _X-NgOi3SvA-00033-00006728-00006927 and also if you're lucky enough for _X-NgOi3SvA-00034-00006928-00007014 people _X-NgOi3SvA-00035-00007015-00007110 to _X-NgOi3SvA-00036-00007111-00007255 be interested in your video and want to _X-NgOi3SvA-00037-00007256-00007478 play it in a sports bar one day closed _X-NgOi3SvA-00038-00007479-00007678 captions are a huge thing in sports bars _X-NgOi3SvA-00039-00007679-00007951 these days so uh you know just in case _X-NgOi3SvA-00040-00007952-00008223 prepare your videos with closed captions _X-NgOi3SvA-00041-00008224-00008455 now the good news is that when you make _X-NgOi3SvA-00042-00008456-00008791 a video youtube will automatically try _X-NgOi3SvA-00043-00008792-00009055 to auto caption your video _X-NgOi3SvA-00044-00009056-00009246 it's pretty cool advanced technology _X-NgOi3SvA-00045-00009247-00009383 that google's got _X-NgOi3SvA-00046-00009384-00009551 recognizing your voice and will add some _X-NgOi3SvA-00047-00009552-00009751 automatic captions _X-NgOi3SvA-00048-00009752-00010103 the bad news is that auto captions are _X-NgOi3SvA-00049-00010104-00010391 actually pretty awkward captions so _X-NgOi3SvA-00050-00010392-00010591 remember auto caption is actually _X-NgOi3SvA-00051-00010592-00010799 awkward captions and we're going to need _X-NgOi3SvA-00052-00010800-00011046 to go and edit them to make them a _X-NgOi3SvA-00053-00011047-00011231 little less clunky _X-NgOi3SvA-00054-00011232-00011431 so youtube's voice recognition is not _X-NgOi3SvA-00055-00011432-00011623 perfect but it's a good place to start _X-NgOi3SvA-00056-00011624-00011895 and you can edit the captions from there _X-NgOi3SvA-00057-00011896-00012183 so to go in and start editing captions _X-NgOi3SvA-00058-00012184-00012367 in youtube click up in the upper right _X-NgOi3SvA-00059-00012368-00012551 hand corner when you're logged in and _X-NgOi3SvA-00060-00012552-00012727 head into your _X-NgOi3SvA-00061-00012728-00012974 video manager so i'm just going to go in _X-NgOi3SvA-00062-00012975-00013135 there _X-NgOi3SvA-00063-00013136-00013263 and that's where you'll see a list of _X-NgOi3SvA-00064-00013263-00013503 all the videos you have access to _X-NgOi3SvA-00065-00013504-00013694 now i just went ahead and uploaded a _X-NgOi3SvA-00066-00013695-00013943 video pretty recently and you'll want to _X-NgOi3SvA-00067-00013944-00014183 give your video once you've uploaded it _X-NgOi3SvA-00068-00014184-00014503 about a day to churn so that youtube can _X-NgOi3SvA-00069-00014504-00014663 generate auto captions you can't _X-NgOi3SvA-00070-00014663-00014822 actually add captions within the first _X-NgOi3SvA-00071-00014823-00015038 day or so of uploading it takes a little _X-NgOi3SvA-00072-00015040-00015215 while for youtube to process and add the _X-NgOi3SvA-00073-00015216-00015366 auto captions so that you can actually _X-NgOi3SvA-00074-00015368-00015519 go back and edit them and have something _X-NgOi3SvA-00075-00015519-00015783 to work with so go ahead i you upload _X-NgOi3SvA-00076-00015784-00015935 this a couple days ago so i should be _X-NgOi3SvA-00077-00015936-00016158 able to click into it oops sorry don't _X-NgOi3SvA-00078-00016159-00016503 actually click the link to the video _X-NgOi3SvA-00079-00016504-00016727 click this edit button here _X-NgOi3SvA-00080-00016728-00016839 and that will take you to all the _X-NgOi3SvA-00081-00016840-00016991 different editing options you have for _X-NgOi3SvA-00082-00016992-00017150 your video _X-NgOi3SvA-00083-00017151-00017350 and once we're in there _X-NgOi3SvA-00084-00017351-00017479 you'll see i can do a whole bunch of _X-NgOi3SvA-00085-00017480-00017686 things the one we're focusing on here is _X-NgOi3SvA-00086-00017687-00017886 subtitles and closed captions i'm going _X-NgOi3SvA-00087-00017887-00018022 to click the subtitles and closed _X-NgOi3SvA-00088-00018023-00018183 caption tab _X-NgOi3SvA-00089-00018184-00018391 and i'm going to go ahead and select _X-NgOi3SvA-00090-00018392-00018630 english as my video language because _X-NgOi3SvA-00091-00018631-00019030 video is obviously in english _X-NgOi3SvA-00092-00019031-00019263 and you'll see that lo and behold _X-NgOi3SvA-00093-00019264-00019479 youtube has automatically captioned my _X-NgOi3SvA-00094-00019480-00019735 video and if i play it i should be able _X-NgOi3SvA-00095-00019736-00019863 to see some of those captions _X-NgOi3SvA-00096-00019864-00020158 automatically up there _X-NgOi3SvA-00097-00020159-00020479 you can turn them on _X-NgOi3SvA-00098-00020480-00020758 and you'll see them playing _X-NgOi3SvA-00099-00020759-00020911 now sometimes it's pretty decent but _X-NgOi3SvA-00100-00020912-00021063 especially if there are technical terms _X-NgOi3SvA-00101-00021064-00021263 or things in your video these are not _X-NgOi3SvA-00102-00021264-00021399 going to suffice _X-NgOi3SvA-00103-00021400-00021503 so _X-NgOi3SvA-00104-00021504-00021686 the general overview of what you want to _X-NgOi3SvA-00105-00021687-00021767 do _X-NgOi3SvA-00106-00021768-00022078 is make a copy of these captions these _X-NgOi3SvA-00107-00022079-00022335 auto captions edit that copy that you've _X-NgOi3SvA-00108-00022336-00022519 made _X-NgOi3SvA-00109-00022520-00022750 publish the copy the new copy of the _X-NgOi3SvA-00110-00022751-00022919 captions _X-NgOi3SvA-00111-00022920-00023175 and then unpublish the original auto _X-NgOi3SvA-00112-00023176-00023439 captioned version all right so _X-NgOi3SvA-00113-00023440-00023607 right now these are the published _X-NgOi3SvA-00114-00023608-00023742 captions you can tell that these _X-NgOi3SvA-00115-00023743-00023903 automatic captions are going to be _X-NgOi3SvA-00116-00023904-00024071 showing to the public by default you _X-NgOi3SvA-00117-00024072-00024255 don't really have control over that at _X-NgOi3SvA-00118-00024256-00024558 first unless you turn them off _X-NgOi3SvA-00119-00024559-00024727 but then you're going to have to go back _X-NgOi3SvA-00120-00024728-00024975 and switch those out for better captions _X-NgOi3SvA-00121-00024976-00025078 all right so i'm going to click into my _X-NgOi3SvA-00122-00025079-00025327 auto captions here _X-NgOi3SvA-00123-00025328-00025527 and you'll see i have this awesome _X-NgOi3SvA-00124-00025528-00025662 editing screen this is something that _X-NgOi3SvA-00125-00025663-00025839 youtube added relatively recently in the _X-NgOi3SvA-00126-00025839-00025999 last year or so _X-NgOi3SvA-00127-00026000-00026127 and again it says that these auto _X-NgOi3SvA-00128-00026127-00026367 captions are published but i can click _X-NgOi3SvA-00129-00026368-00026902 edit and i can start making revisions _X-NgOi3SvA-00130-00026904-00027087 so this is the editing interface you're _X-NgOi3SvA-00131-00027088-00027183 going to want to use while you're making _X-NgOi3SvA-00132-00027183-00027367 revisions you can play and pause your _X-NgOi3SvA-00133-00027368-00027590 video and it will break it up into _X-NgOi3SvA-00134-00027591-00027767 chunks and you can edit each chunk of _X-NgOi3SvA-00135-00027768-00027902 these to _X-NgOi3SvA-00136-00027904-00028023 better _X-NgOi3SvA-00137-00028024-00028302 better captions so um let's say _X-NgOi3SvA-00138-00028304-00028383 um _X-NgOi3SvA-00139-00028383-00028607 hi extension i am going to actually give _X-NgOi3SvA-00140-00028608-00028839 extension a capital _X-NgOi3SvA-00141-00028839-00028951 all right so i'm just going to make a _X-NgOi3SvA-00142-00028952-00029174 couple edits here _X-NgOi3SvA-00143-00029175-00029351 and then what i want to do is i want to _X-NgOi3SvA-00144-00029352-00029774 save this all right so i've saved it _X-NgOi3SvA-00145-00029775-00030031 and once i've made that edit i'm also _X-NgOi3SvA-00146-00030032-00030246 going to when i'm finished and i'm sure _X-NgOi3SvA-00147-00030247-00030502 that all of my captions are as _X-NgOi3SvA-00148-00030504-00030670 normal english as i want them to be i'm _X-NgOi3SvA-00149-00030672-00030943 going to hit publish _X-NgOi3SvA-00150-00030944-00031262 it'll take a little bit to churn _X-NgOi3SvA-00151-00031263-00031487 and now you'll see the that i've _X-NgOi3SvA-00152-00031488-00031687 actually got two versions of captions _X-NgOi3SvA-00153-00031688-00031879 published by default the auto captions _X-NgOi3SvA-00154-00031880-00032079 are still there they haven't gone away _X-NgOi3SvA-00155-00032080-00032335 but my new edited version that's based _X-NgOi3SvA-00156-00032336-00032551 on those auto captions is now also _X-NgOi3SvA-00157-00032552-00032679 published _X-NgOi3SvA-00158-00032680-00032839 and if i want to go back and make any _X-NgOi3SvA-00159-00032840-00033031 changes to those i can still click back _X-NgOi3SvA-00160-00033032-00033511 in and make changes and things _X-NgOi3SvA-00161-00033512-00033671 oh sorry to make a change you're going _X-NgOi3SvA-00162-00033672-00033839 to actually have to _X-NgOi3SvA-00163-00033840-00034207 hit this edit up here again _X-NgOi3SvA-00164-00034208-00034518 and i can make some changes again not a _X-NgOi3SvA-00165-00034519-00034702 problem _X-NgOi3SvA-00166-00034703-00034967 make as many as i need _X-NgOi3SvA-00167-00034968-00035127 save it again _X-NgOi3SvA-00168-00035128-00035302 and then just republish so you can make _X-NgOi3SvA-00169-00035303-00035535 as many changes as you need um again _X-NgOi3SvA-00170-00035536-00035718 overwrite the existing subtitles for _X-NgOi3SvA-00171-00035719-00035879 english that'll just overwrite the old _X-NgOi3SvA-00172-00035880-00036071 version that i had _X-NgOi3SvA-00173-00036072-00036302 of my edited ones _X-NgOi3SvA-00174-00036303-00036518 and there they are _X-NgOi3SvA-00175-00036519-00036646 okay _X-NgOi3SvA-00176-00036647-00036823 now what i want to do now that i've got _X-NgOi3SvA-00177-00036824-00037079 my actual english track that's improved _X-NgOi3SvA-00178-00037080-00037239 because i know how to actually speak _X-NgOi3SvA-00179-00037240-00037423 english better than google does i'm _X-NgOi3SvA-00180-00037424-00037687 going to unpublish the auto captions and _X-NgOi3SvA-00181-00037688-00037846 that's the last thing you have to do _X-NgOi3SvA-00182-00037847-00038262 just click this _X-NgOi3SvA-00183-00038263-00038502 into here go into actions and hit _X-NgOi3SvA-00184-00038503-00038799 unpublish _X-NgOi3SvA-00185-00038800-00038967 and then you'll notice that the english _X-NgOi3SvA-00186-00038968-00039183 automatic captions no longer has a green _X-NgOi3SvA-00187-00039184-00039462 light next to it and only your new _X-NgOi3SvA-00188-00039463-00039767 improved english captions are published _X-NgOi3SvA-00189-00039768-00040039 alright so just one quick overview again _X-NgOi3SvA-00190-00040040-00040239 you upload a video _X-NgOi3SvA-00191-00040240-00040407 you have to wait a day or so for the _X-NgOi3SvA-00192-00040408-00040671 auto captions to generate in youtube _X-NgOi3SvA-00193-00040672-00040846 and once you've done that you'll _X-NgOi3SvA-00194-00040847-00040999 actually make a copy of them you'll _X-NgOi3SvA-00195-00041000-00041190 click into the auto captions hit edit _X-NgOi3SvA-00196-00041191-00041446 and start editing _X-NgOi3SvA-00197-00041447-00041695 edit the copy and then publish that new _X-NgOi3SvA-00198-00041696-00041951 copy based on the auto captions but it's _X-NgOi3SvA-00199-00041952-00042143 improved _X-NgOi3SvA-00200-00042144-00042343 and once your new copy of the captions _X-NgOi3SvA-00201-00042344-00042623 is published then go and unpublish the _X-NgOi3SvA-00202-00042624-00042823 auto captions so that only your new _X-NgOi3SvA-00203-00042824-00043062 improved version of the captions is _X-NgOi3SvA-00204-00043063-00043190 published and that's all that people _X-NgOi3SvA-00205-00043191-00043383 will see when they play your video then _X-NgOi3SvA-00206-00043384-00043543 when they hit play _X-NgOi3SvA-00207-00043544-00043711 when they get the closed caption option _X-NgOi3SvA-00208-00043712-00043927 in the corner here _X-NgOi3SvA-00209-00043928-00044158 they will only see your new and improved _X-NgOi3SvA-00210-00044159-00044415 version that they can play _X-NgOi3SvA-00211-00044416-00044590 no embarrassing _X-NgOi3SvA-00212-00044591-00044887 auto captions no danger there all right _X-NgOi3SvA-00213-00044888-00045055 thanks for listening it's a pretty _X-NgOi3SvA-00214-00045056-00045255 simple interface again it may change _X-NgOi3SvA-00215-00045256-00045462 youtube changes quite a bit but the _X-NgOi3SvA-00216-00045463-00045727 caption functionality in youtube is _X-NgOi3SvA-00217-00045728-00045911 pretty advanced and actually pretty _X-NgOi3SvA-00218-00045912-00046062 simple so there's really no reason not _X-NgOi3SvA-00219-00046063-00046547 to do it your audiences will thank you _Y06uV-T8ZA-00000-00000000-00001357 [Music] _Y06uV-T8ZA-00001-00001358-00001587 over here _Y06uV-T8ZA-00002-00001588-00002701 [Music] _Y06uV-T8ZA-00003-00002702-00003269 [Music] _Y06uV-T8ZA-00004-00003270-00003451 foreign _Y06uV-T8ZA-00006-00008311-00008937 I've been losing space _Y06uV-T8ZA-00008-00014323-00014422 thank you _Y06uV-T8ZA-00010-00018187-00018537 dreaming about the things _Y06uV-T8ZA-00011-00018538-00019491 [Music] _Y06uV-T8ZA-00012-00019492-00020491 [Music] _YI3R-m_QaQ-00000-00000003-00000173 hello and welcome to the LifeWorks _YI3R-m_QaQ-00001-00000174-00000559 podcast joining me today is longtime _YI3R-m_QaQ-00002-00000560-00000796 friend and colleague Walter Powell _YI3R-m_QaQ-00003-00000797-00001106 security expert and former 20-year _YI3R-m_QaQ-00004-00001107-00001274 police officer with the city of _YI3R-m_QaQ-00005-00001275-00001458 Alexandria Virginia police department _YI3R-m_QaQ-00006-00001459-00001684 Walter thank you for being on the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00007-00001685-00001916 podcast today it's great to have you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00008-00001917-00002132 thank you for the invite it's a pleasure _YI3R-m_QaQ-00009-00002133-00002275 to be here thank you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00010-00002276-00002612 Thank You Walter the reason why I wanted _YI3R-m_QaQ-00011-00002613-00002752 to have you on the podcast today is _YI3R-m_QaQ-00012-00002753-00003137 because you are a man who grew up in the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00013-00003138-00003395 first generation following the civil _YI3R-m_QaQ-00014-00003396-00003788 rights era and you spent 20 years of _YI3R-m_QaQ-00015-00003789-00004115 your career as a police officer and in _YI3R-m_QaQ-00016-00004116-00004411 this day and age where I feel like the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00017-00004412-00004793 world is desperate for common-sense and _YI3R-m_QaQ-00018-00004794-00005131 critical thinking I feel like you are _YI3R-m_QaQ-00019-00005132-00005429 uniquely qualified to offer an _YI3R-m_QaQ-00020-00005430-00005918 intelligent perspective on race on the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00021-00005919-00006184 police and and honestly and what people _YI3R-m_QaQ-00022-00006185-00006542 can do as individuals to become more _YI3R-m_QaQ-00023-00006543-00007021 awake more aware and enlightened about a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00024-00007022-00007319 variety of issues would you mind telling _YI3R-m_QaQ-00025-00007320-00007616 us a little bit about your backstory you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00026-00007617-00007792 know where you grew up your upbringing _YI3R-m_QaQ-00027-00007793-00008234 your parents and just just about you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00028-00008235-00008726 okay okay so I am from Alexandria where _YI3R-m_QaQ-00029-00008727-00009071 I worked for 25 years I spent the first _YI3R-m_QaQ-00030-00009072-00009467 15 years of my life there I was actually _YI3R-m_QaQ-00031-00009468-00009742 born in Washington DC just really unique _YI3R-m_QaQ-00032-00009743-00009848 I love saying that _YI3R-m_QaQ-00033-00009849-00010238 exactly born in DC yeah around the age _YI3R-m_QaQ-00034-00010239-00010445 of 15 I actually moved out of Alexandria _YI3R-m_QaQ-00035-00010446-00010859 my I come from a split home my father _YI3R-m_QaQ-00036-00010860-00011069 lived at Manassas my mom in Alexandria _YI3R-m_QaQ-00037-00011070-00011488 and I decided at 14 years old that _YI3R-m_QaQ-00038-00011489-00011831 moving away from the city things that I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00039-00011832-00011999 was experiencing and seen I wanted to _YI3R-m_QaQ-00040-00012000-00012424 get out and get another view so I joy _YI3R-m_QaQ-00041-00012425-00012773 left Alexandria is where I live with my _YI3R-m_QaQ-00042-00012774-00013082 father finish finished my schooling _YI3R-m_QaQ-00043-00013083-00013322 there _YI3R-m_QaQ-00044-00013323-00013602 major difference in schooling just the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00045-00013603-00013833 Alexander school system versus you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00046-00013834-00014022 the the Prince reom County Manassas _YI3R-m_QaQ-00047-00014022-00014303 schooling system you know I was _YI3R-m_QaQ-00048-00014304-00014555 struggling in Alexandria and I blossomed _YI3R-m_QaQ-00049-00014556-00014720 in Manassas I don't understand I'm the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00050-00014721-00015206 same person but anyway I looked at _YI3R-m_QaQ-00051-00015207-00015505 options of where to go to college and _YI3R-m_QaQ-00052-00015506-00015786 honestly decided that it wasn't for me _YI3R-m_QaQ-00053-00015787-00016070 for my family yeah I remember looking at _YI3R-m_QaQ-00054-00016071-00016361 the cost and seeing the looked at my you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00055-00016362-00016565 know my father's eyes of how do we _YI3R-m_QaQ-00056-00016566-00016850 afford to do to do this yeah and then I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00057-00016851-00017255 then I just I start managing really he _YI3R-m_QaQ-00058-00017256-00017583 had a very young age I got a job through _YI3R-m_QaQ-00059-00017584-00017805 high school just simply work in the shoe _YI3R-m_QaQ-00060-00017806-00018137 salesman and then as a shoe salesman I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00061-00018138-00018437 ended up managing the store and at 17 _YI3R-m_QaQ-00062-00018438-00018930 years old and some of my employees were _YI3R-m_QaQ-00063-00018931-00019112 firefighters on their days off working _YI3R-m_QaQ-00064-00019113-00019647 you know sue self that's where I met the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00065-00019648-00019808 person that recruited me into law _YI3R-m_QaQ-00066-00019809-00020069 enforcement hmm I suppose through shoes _YI3R-m_QaQ-00067-00020070-00020378 so I you know I ended up going through _YI3R-m_QaQ-00068-00020379-00020708 the process and and there I became my _YI3R-m_QaQ-00069-00020709-00020846 first position in lawful with it with a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00070-00020847-00021021 deputy sheriff Wow _YI3R-m_QaQ-00071-00021022-00021525 back to Alexandria I went well so 15 _YI3R-m_QaQ-00072-00021526-00021758 years growing up move out to Manassas _YI3R-m_QaQ-00073-00021759-00022028 and then it then then Life brings me _YI3R-m_QaQ-00074-00022029-00022514 back to my home yeah and I know right _YI3R-m_QaQ-00075-00022515-00022752 away I just once I you know became with _YI3R-m_QaQ-00076-00022753-00023090 age 21 I took the tests and became a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00077-00023091-00023346 police officer and I didn't tell you is _YI3R-m_QaQ-00078-00023347-00023534 that it's always been my desire to serve _YI3R-m_QaQ-00079-00023535-00023750 the public and it's always been my _YI3R-m_QaQ-00080-00023751-00024047 desire so when when my friend Jim walked _YI3R-m_QaQ-00081-00024048-00024287 into my store and said hey you should be _YI3R-m_QaQ-00082-00024288-00024477 a police officer and just that was _YI3R-m_QaQ-00083-00024478-00024624 confirmation for me I was like you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00084-00024625-00024719 what hmm _YI3R-m_QaQ-00085-00024720-00024950 let's do it so I end up going right back _YI3R-m_QaQ-00086-00024951-00025380 in policing in my own community oh yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-00087-00025381-00025765 and then after that you know I retired _YI3R-m_QaQ-00088-00025766-00026069 2006 from police work after after after _YI3R-m_QaQ-00089-00026070-00026477 sustaining a pretty serious injury _YI3R-m_QaQ-00090-00026479-00026754 and then I got into other things you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00091-00026755-00026895 know it's trying to find myself and _YI3R-m_QaQ-00092-00026895-00027069 wasn't sure what I wanted to do when I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00093-00027070-00027354 was you know managing that was my only _YI3R-m_QaQ-00094-00027355-00027539 other skill right you can add it you can _YI3R-m_QaQ-00095-00027541-00027795 either be policing or you can manage _YI3R-m_QaQ-00096-00027795-00028311 stuff right started managing facilities _YI3R-m_QaQ-00097-00028312-00028499 facilities for the city of Alexandria _YI3R-m_QaQ-00098-00028500-00028629 yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-00099-00028630-00028838 indoor and outdoor properties and _YI3R-m_QaQ-00100-00028839-00029169 honestly managing facilities and just _YI3R-m_QaQ-00101-00029170-00029457 seeing the facility world and seeing _YI3R-m_QaQ-00102-00029458-00029763 things that weren't quite right and I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00103-00029764-00029976 couldn't change it and I realized you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00104-00029977-00030360 got to go back to security together and _YI3R-m_QaQ-00105-00030361-00030855 manage security you got this security _YI3R-m_QaQ-00106-00030856-00031011 police background and you get this _YI3R-m_QaQ-00107-00031012-00031332 facility management knew you know five _YI3R-m_QaQ-00108-00031333-00031689 years of put them together and went back _YI3R-m_QaQ-00109-00031689-00031968 into contract security Wow _YI3R-m_QaQ-00110-00031969-00032258 so now I manage you know security _YI3R-m_QaQ-00111-00032260-00032558 officers you know people who or in that _YI3R-m_QaQ-00112-00032560-00032826 beginning line of law enforcement or you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00113-00032827-00033042 know perhaps they'll never they may not _YI3R-m_QaQ-00114-00033043-00033192 want to be law enforcement but right _YI3R-m_QaQ-00115-00033193-00033321 what they do is the frontline of _YI3R-m_QaQ-00116-00033322-00033702 policing securing properties so yeah and _YI3R-m_QaQ-00117-00033703-00033828 that's where I am today _YI3R-m_QaQ-00118-00033829-00034002 still still doing it still loving it _YI3R-m_QaQ-00119-00034003-00034374 yeah yeah yeah can you give us an _YI3R-m_QaQ-00120-00034375-00034905 insider look of what it's like to be to _YI3R-m_QaQ-00121-00034906-00035166 be a police officer but you know first _YI3R-m_QaQ-00122-00035167-00035825 but also to be a black police officer _YI3R-m_QaQ-00123-00035826-00036102 you know keeping in mind the time right _YI3R-m_QaQ-00124-00036103-00036432 we're talking lady west through the 90s _YI3R-m_QaQ-00125-00036433-00037113 into 2000 I tell you it's I look back on _YI3R-m_QaQ-00126-00037114-00037242 it you don't you don't you don't see it _YI3R-m_QaQ-00127-00037243-00037392 when you're in it right yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-00128-00037393-00037683 see it when you're in it I look back on _YI3R-m_QaQ-00129-00037684-00037878 it you know we did a lot of things like _YI3R-m_QaQ-00130-00037879-00038078 accepted the norm _YI3R-m_QaQ-00131-00038079-00038309 like lease officers like hope this is _YI3R-m_QaQ-00132-00038310-00038510 the way it is this is what we do these _YI3R-m_QaQ-00133-00038511-00038816 are these are the communities we focus _YI3R-m_QaQ-00134-00038817-00039155 on because not because who they are is _YI3R-m_QaQ-00135-00039156-00039590 because of what they do so you you you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00136-00039591-00039914 find yourself uh and I tell you I go _YI3R-m_QaQ-00137-00039915-00040088 back we're gonna think about some of the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00138-00040089-00040241 comments that be made to me over the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00139-00040242-00040609 years yeah you not like them you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00140-00040610-00040781 you're different _YI3R-m_QaQ-00141-00040782-00041198 yeah you know you must have had both _YI3R-m_QaQ-00142-00041199-00041441 parents growing up you know oh my gosh _YI3R-m_QaQ-00143-00041442-00041825 Wow yes type yeah absolutely and you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00144-00041826-00041975 don't even know it you don't even know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00145-00041976-00042431 it you just go like yeah and then after _YI3R-m_QaQ-00146-00042432-00042653 Wow or you get mentored by somebody who _YI3R-m_QaQ-00147-00042654-00042953 could you know wake you up and go look _YI3R-m_QaQ-00148-00042954-00043163 at what you're doing the way you've _YI3R-m_QaQ-00149-00043164-00043679 become where you are yeah yeah so let me _YI3R-m_QaQ-00150-00043680-00044114 ask you this as a as a police officer _YI3R-m_QaQ-00151-00044115-00044444 clearly you witnessed bias right you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00152-00044445-00044858 know toward toward minorities toward you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00153-00044859-00045229 know were where black people singled out _YI3R-m_QaQ-00154-00045230-00045701 as a population or you know or or do you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00155-00045702-00045865 think that it was sort of just _YI3R-m_QaQ-00156-00045866-00046216 widespread among different communities _YI3R-m_QaQ-00157-00046217-00046583 no no I you know we were definitely _YI3R-m_QaQ-00158-00046584-00046745 black people were definitely singled out _YI3R-m_QaQ-00159-00046746-00046970 but you didn't know it was because they _YI3R-m_QaQ-00160-00046971-00047321 were black hmm it knows because because _YI3R-m_QaQ-00161-00047322-00047492 what happened in the black community _YI3R-m_QaQ-00162-00047493-00047804 yeah black officer I you know I felt _YI3R-m_QaQ-00163-00047805-00048116 like I was partaking in this aggressive _YI3R-m_QaQ-00164-00048117-00048395 patrolling not because the community was _YI3R-m_QaQ-00165-00048396-00048662 black right it was the community stayed _YI3R-m_QaQ-00166-00048663-00049034 up later at night you have more people _YI3R-m_QaQ-00167-00049035-00049223 on the streets and this this particular _YI3R-m_QaQ-00168-00049224-00049370 neighborhood and that's where your _YI3R-m_QaQ-00169-00049371-00049652 that's where your crime was or was _YI3R-m_QaQ-00170-00049653-00050075 reported so so you you do gravitated _YI3R-m_QaQ-00171-00050076-00050399 toward where the need was yeah you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00172-00050400-00050630 it just became it just became the norm _YI3R-m_QaQ-00173-00050631-00051041 yeah is there something I mean I think _YI3R-m_QaQ-00174-00051042-00051267 you mention it but is there something in _YI3R-m_QaQ-00175-00051269-00051528 black culture _YI3R-m_QaQ-00176-00051529-00051852 that makes them more that makes them _YI3R-m_QaQ-00177-00051853-00052038 more a target or is it just what you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00178-00052039-00052215 said you know like you know they're out _YI3R-m_QaQ-00179-00052216-00052407 later or you know is there something in _YI3R-m_QaQ-00180-00052408-00052742 it that that makes them more attractive _YI3R-m_QaQ-00181-00052744-00053538 more I don't know I I would say a little _YI3R-m_QaQ-00182-00053539-00053891 bit of yes during you know growing up in _YI3R-m_QaQ-00183-00053892-00054144 Alexandria and I tell you I'm gonna go _YI3R-m_QaQ-00184-00054145-00054455 back to part of what got me into it yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-00185-00054457-00054849 I had a bad experience with police mmm _YI3R-m_QaQ-00186-00054850-00055179 that truly changed changed my life _YI3R-m_QaQ-00187-00055179-00055512 yeah and I remember saying as a as a 14 _YI3R-m_QaQ-00188-00055513-00056007 year old I'm gonna take your job officer _YI3R-m_QaQ-00189-00056008-00056295 and and I'm gonna show you how to do _YI3R-m_QaQ-00190-00056296-00056712 with 14 year old black kids Wow and and _YI3R-m_QaQ-00191-00056713-00056946 I can reenact it remember I'm not gonna _YI3R-m_QaQ-00192-00056947-00057552 remember the whole story and it's my _YI3R-m_QaQ-00193-00057553-00057714 mind city as I run through this now I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00194-00057715-00057992 have to tell the story time for this I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00195-00057994-00058338 have to tell story so I was in _YI3R-m_QaQ-00196-00058339-00058679 Alexandria at a area where we hung out _YI3R-m_QaQ-00197-00058680-00059037 it was a skating rink yeah yeah and as _YI3R-m_QaQ-00198-00059038-00059337 I'm 14 right I mean the police are up _YI3R-m_QaQ-00199-00059338-00059504 and down the street so I learned later _YI3R-m_QaQ-00200-00059505-00059697 on and that's the same thing I did you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00201-00059698-00059898 know in 2009 the same street where I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00202-00059899-00060183 keep work yeah I was approached by a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00203-00060184-00060423 police officer who say hey there was a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00204-00060424-00060663 robbery in Old Town and you look just _YI3R-m_QaQ-00205-00060664-00061032 like the guy that I'm looking for now 14 _YI3R-m_QaQ-00206-00061033-00061389 years old no parent calls yeah the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00207-00061390-00061539 police officer stands there and he says _YI3R-m_QaQ-00208-00061540-00061890 to me the empties my pockets I never _YI3R-m_QaQ-00209-00061891-00062064 figured I had 78 dollars in my pocket _YI3R-m_QaQ-00210-00062065-00062289 from a paycheck because I was washing _YI3R-m_QaQ-00211-00062290-00062607 dishes in Old Town wow I knew I was a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00212-00062608-00062877 good kid I knew that if you have the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00213-00062878-00063090 wrong person in this first _YI3R-m_QaQ-00214-00063091-00063315 this is officer said to me if you don't _YI3R-m_QaQ-00215-00063316-00063621 tell me that you did this if you don't _YI3R-m_QaQ-00216-00063622-00063699 admit to it _YI3R-m_QaQ-00217-00063700-00063870 I'm gonna put you in the backseat with _YI3R-m_QaQ-00218-00063871-00064026 my dog hmm _YI3R-m_QaQ-00219-00064027-00064239 this dog was wrong he was raped this dog _YI3R-m_QaQ-00220-00064240-00064488 was hungry hey and I was living like _YI3R-m_QaQ-00221-00064489-00064710 good piece of meat and every time I'd _YI3R-m_QaQ-00222-00064711-00064869 say wasn't me he would grab that door _YI3R-m_QaQ-00223-00064870-00064934 handle _YI3R-m_QaQ-00224-00064935-00065767 I got this he's a dog he needs some help _YI3R-m_QaQ-00225-00065768-00066110 you don't tell me you did and I know for _YI3R-m_QaQ-00226-00066111-00066281 a minute my mom was thinking okay so _YI3R-m_QaQ-00227-00066282-00066407 what happens if I tell you I did it you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00228-00066408-00066557 won't put me in the car with the dog I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00229-00066558-00066796 knew that wasn't the right thing to do _YI3R-m_QaQ-00230-00066797-00067019 I've been another police car pulled up _YI3R-m_QaQ-00231-00067020-00067277 mmm he made me stand up against the wall _YI3R-m_QaQ-00232-00067278-00067535 I can see the woman looking out the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00233-00067536-00067760 backseat of the police car and looks at _YI3R-m_QaQ-00234-00067761-00068357 me and says that's not him hmm that's _YI3R-m_QaQ-00235-00068358-00068543 when I left Alexandria and moved to _YI3R-m_QaQ-00236-00068544-00068789 Manassas that was pretty much my last _YI3R-m_QaQ-00237-00068790-00069104 night you know hanging out in the inner _YI3R-m_QaQ-00238-00069105-00069545 city so I'm sorry back to that story but _YI3R-m_QaQ-00239-00069546-00069733 but that's what that was the beginning _YI3R-m_QaQ-00240-00069734-00070085 yeah so all of my policing time you you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00241-00070086-00070316 talk about gravitating toward you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00242-00070317-00070607 black people was you know they we did _YI3R-m_QaQ-00243-00070608-00070760 the same thing that the officer did to _YI3R-m_QaQ-00244-00070761-00070964 me pretty much you go to the areas where _YI3R-m_QaQ-00245-00070965-00071216 there are people were where there's a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00246-00071217-00071894 need for for supervising communities so _YI3R-m_QaQ-00247-00071895-00072029 I don't think it was just because they _YI3R-m_QaQ-00248-00072030-00072302 were black let's just think that you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00249-00072303-00072491 know that's what we did we didn't have _YI3R-m_QaQ-00250-00072492-00072731 big houses to have house parties right _YI3R-m_QaQ-00251-00072732-00072953 you couldn't you couldn't just say hey _YI3R-m_QaQ-00252-00072954-00073244 come to my pool party and then have all _YI3R-m_QaQ-00253-00073245-00073499 these 20 kids in your backyard you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00254-00073500-00073766 we went you know to places where _YI3R-m_QaQ-00255-00073767-00073994 everybody gathered where they all feel _YI3R-m_QaQ-00256-00073995-00074396 comfortable yeah yeah no that makes _YI3R-m_QaQ-00257-00074397-00074816 sense makes a lot of sense while you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00258-00074817-00075179 were while you were a police officer you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00259-00075180-00075416 talked about the things that you did but _YI3R-m_QaQ-00260-00075417-00075542 I would imagine that there were some _YI3R-m_QaQ-00261-00075543-00075800 things that you also did to sort of _YI3R-m_QaQ-00262-00075801-00076094 combat that kind of bias as well what _YI3R-m_QaQ-00263-00076095-00076241 were what were some of those things that _YI3R-m_QaQ-00264-00076242-00076493 you did _YI3R-m_QaQ-00265-00076494-00076673 let's make sure I understand there make _YI3R-m_QaQ-00266-00076674-00076817 sure I understand the question I mean _YI3R-m_QaQ-00267-00076818-00077266 like how did I respond to - when I was _YI3R-m_QaQ-00268-00077267-00077771 taught to be bias or yes what did I do _YI3R-m_QaQ-00269-00077772-00078014 yes well one is first while you do your _YI3R-m_QaQ-00270-00078015-00078266 job right yeah you definitely do your _YI3R-m_QaQ-00271-00078267-00078530 job and then you and then you you make _YI3R-m_QaQ-00272-00078531-00078758 sure you treat people with respect and _YI3R-m_QaQ-00273-00078759-00079217 you get them to understand that treat me _YI3R-m_QaQ-00274-00079218-00079484 as the man forget the uniform you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00275-00079485-00079787 I'm Walter I'm officer Powell and I'm _YI3R-m_QaQ-00276-00079788-00080261 here to help you you got to get that you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00277-00080262-00080381 know you the person that you're talking _YI3R-m_QaQ-00278-00080382-00080594 to us got to see that what you said was _YI3R-m_QaQ-00279-00080595-00080759 saying I wish I had thought about the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00280-00080760-00081119 same the the man makes the uniform the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00281-00081120-00081266 uniform don't make the man or something _YI3R-m_QaQ-00282-00081267-00081380 something like that we used to repeat _YI3R-m_QaQ-00283-00081381-00081632 that you know brain being people that _YI3R-m_QaQ-00284-00081633-00081860 were you know of my liking people who _YI3R-m_QaQ-00285-00081861-00082100 grew up in the city now remember I grew _YI3R-m_QaQ-00286-00082101-00082343 up in this city where I'm policing so I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00287-00082344-00082634 had to I had to communicate on a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00288-00082635-00082712 different level _YI3R-m_QaQ-00289-00082713-00083159 I could not couldn't I couldn't allow _YI3R-m_QaQ-00290-00083160-00083480 the community to call me you know Uncle _YI3R-m_QaQ-00291-00083481-00083804 Tom or a you forgot what you came from _YI3R-m_QaQ-00292-00083805-00084173 Frank hmm I couldn't allow because _YI3R-m_QaQ-00293-00084174-00084380 remember my family was still there _YI3R-m_QaQ-00294-00084381-00084674 I mean it's I've got to respect the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00295-00084675-00084821 community in order to get respect back _YI3R-m_QaQ-00296-00084822-00085211 so people would see me and go oh hey the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00297-00085212-00085412 guy that used to live over there yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-00298-00085413-00085703 and and and that helped a lot and that's _YI3R-m_QaQ-00299-00085704-00085931 that's how I kind of would it be the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00300-00085932-00086135 biases you know I just just deal with a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00301-00086136-00086249 person as a person _YI3R-m_QaQ-00302-00086250-00086516 yeah and I ask them to do the same do _YI3R-m_QaQ-00303-00086517-00086762 the same for me yeah what kind of _YI3R-m_QaQ-00304-00086763-00087130 reputation did you have on the street _YI3R-m_QaQ-00305-00087131-00087746 versus your your peers um I I probably _YI3R-m_QaQ-00306-00087747-00087938 was considered I remember some people _YI3R-m_QaQ-00307-00087939-00088118 teasing me saying you know you you're _YI3R-m_QaQ-00308-00088119-00088469 too nice you're soft you know you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00309-00088470-00088903 why don't you don't let that guy _YI3R-m_QaQ-00310-00088904-00089216 actually and I remember officers say hey _YI3R-m_QaQ-00311-00089217-00089486 don't let that guy hang out on your _YI3R-m_QaQ-00312-00089487-00089672 block you know we used to say hey this _YI3R-m_QaQ-00313-00089673-00089813 is my neighborhood you know I'm _YI3R-m_QaQ-00314-00089814-00090215 I'm officer you know his mind you guys _YI3R-m_QaQ-00315-00090216-00090500 can't hang out on my corner mine was _YI3R-m_QaQ-00316-00090501-00090779 mine I just I don't know that's just the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00317-00090780-00091006 way we did it right oh yeah and I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00318-00091007-00091253 remember being told hey hey I saw that _YI3R-m_QaQ-00319-00091254-00091357 guy man he's hanging out in your _YI3R-m_QaQ-00320-00091358-00091606 neighborhood the ISA Center you know I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00321-00091607-00091819 was there work later than I did _YI3R-m_QaQ-00322-00091820-00092213 hey I saw you know saw Frankie in your _YI3R-m_QaQ-00323-00092214-00092506 neighborhood last night yeah so now when _YI3R-m_QaQ-00324-00092507-00092644 I see Frankie I got to kind of say hey _YI3R-m_QaQ-00325-00092645-00092738 Frankie don't hang out in my _YI3R-m_QaQ-00326-00092739-00093301 neighborhood you know this is kinda it's _YI3R-m_QaQ-00327-00093302-00093491 just kind of the way it was just kinda _YI3R-m_QaQ-00328-00093492-00093863 way it was yeah yeah what about on the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00329-00093864-00094193 street like with with people that you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00330-00094194-00094507 were you with in the community we go _YI3R-m_QaQ-00331-00094508-00094736 back to the original question what was _YI3R-m_QaQ-00332-00094737-00095131 your reputation in your oh okay okay so _YI3R-m_QaQ-00333-00095132-00095525 that they the kids if I'm gonna call the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00334-00095526-00095861 kids the kids actually with nicknamed me _YI3R-m_QaQ-00335-00095862-00096311 uncle P right my last name and III had _YI3R-m_QaQ-00336-00096312-00096521 this community that I grew up in as a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00337-00096522-00096956 young child and I and I went back and I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00338-00096957-00097126 wasn't that was my neighborhood I was a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00339-00097127-00097286 community officer so that's all I did I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00340-00097287-00097418 mean that was my neighborhood every day _YI3R-m_QaQ-00341-00097419-00097778 well to the same community every day I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00342-00097779-00097979 ride a bicycle stand on the corner walk _YI3R-m_QaQ-00343-00097980-00098192 up and down walked alleys eat dinner _YI3R-m_QaQ-00344-00098193-00098600 people's houses right yeah and before _YI3R-m_QaQ-00345-00098601-00099005 you know it it was it not just the good _YI3R-m_QaQ-00346-00099006-00099146 kids I mean the bad kids would use the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00347-00099147-00099350 term as well right the kids that were _YI3R-m_QaQ-00348-00099351-00099500 out there doing what they shouldn't do _YI3R-m_QaQ-00349-00099501-00100484 dude see me in the alley now my friends _YI3R-m_QaQ-00350-00100485-00100655 had a good name my friends had like you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00351-00100656-00100906 know you know Superman like names you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00352-00100907-00101311 know yeah yeah Robocop you know Pacman's _YI3R-m_QaQ-00353-00101312-00101731 yeah so you know what it's yeah I wasn't _YI3R-m_QaQ-00354-00101732-00101932 then I wasn't real proud of my nickname _YI3R-m_QaQ-00355-00101933-00102146 because it's officers almost is that so _YI3R-m_QaQ-00356-00102147-00102323 what are they calling you when I say _YI3R-m_QaQ-00357-00102324-00102629 uncle peers like yeah like you too _YI3R-m_QaQ-00358-00102630-00102766 friendly with him too close _YI3R-m_QaQ-00359-00102767-00103079 yeah you too close but I wasn't too _YI3R-m_QaQ-00360-00103080-00103178 close _YI3R-m_QaQ-00361-00103179-00103534 no doubt no doubt Wow Wow well and then _YI3R-m_QaQ-00362-00103535-00103786 and that speaks a lot to to you our _YI3R-m_QaQ-00363-00103788-00104123 character and your ability to to weigh _YI3R-m_QaQ-00364-00104124-00104383 your responsibilities while at the same _YI3R-m_QaQ-00365-00104384-00104873 time being respectful of the people that _YI3R-m_QaQ-00366-00104874-00105211 you're you're over overseeing or _YI3R-m_QaQ-00367-00105213-00105407 protecting right or you know you were _YI3R-m_QaQ-00368-00105408-00105677 really I think it sounds like you were _YI3R-m_QaQ-00369-00105678-00106025 you got into police work in order to be _YI3R-m_QaQ-00370-00106026-00106352 a guardian right not a warrior there's a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00371-00106353-00106538 there's a distinction between the two _YI3R-m_QaQ-00372-00106539-00106868 but rather a guardian a protector and _YI3R-m_QaQ-00373-00106869-00107078 and I think that says a lot about your _YI3R-m_QaQ-00374-00107079-00107303 about your character and and the way _YI3R-m_QaQ-00375-00107304-00107720 that you approached it as you look at as _YI3R-m_QaQ-00376-00107721-00108014 you look at today's situations as you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00377-00108015-00108307 look at you know what's happened with _YI3R-m_QaQ-00378-00108308-00108578 with police work today or how it's been _YI3R-m_QaQ-00379-00108579-00108983 portrayed in the media what's what's _YI3R-m_QaQ-00380-00108983-00109367 what's your reaction to the latest _YI3R-m_QaQ-00381-00109368-00109721 events against black man at the hands of _YI3R-m_QaQ-00382-00109722-00110063 police weren't ready for this we really _YI3R-m_QaQ-00383-00110064-00110525 weren't ready to police ourselves mm-hmm _YI3R-m_QaQ-00384-00110526-00110835 [Music] _YI3R-m_QaQ-00385-00110836-00111046 things we'd things that we thought were _YI3R-m_QaQ-00386-00111047-00111244 were normal and okay _YI3R-m_QaQ-00387-00111245-00111499 yeah we're we're totally wrong the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00388-00111500-00111881 concept of of policing the concept of _YI3R-m_QaQ-00389-00111882-00112303 she don't shoot midnight we were we were _YI3R-m_QaQ-00390-00112304-00112612 wrong I mean we were we were we were _YI3R-m_QaQ-00391-00112613-00112861 only in our time we were only reacting _YI3R-m_QaQ-00392-00112862-00113304 to our time we weren't _YI3R-m_QaQ-00393-00113305-00113622 we weren't ahead of ourselves leasing _YI3R-m_QaQ-00394-00113623-00113838 wasn't ahead of the curve it was with _YI3R-m_QaQ-00395-00113839-00114084 the curve it was on it right we were _YI3R-m_QaQ-00396-00114085-00114282 totally reacting to what the community _YI3R-m_QaQ-00397-00114283-00114471 what we thought the community wanted _YI3R-m_QaQ-00398-00114472-00115290 yeah ahead you know it's I mean this the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00399-00115291-00115533 the policing concepts were just dealing _YI3R-m_QaQ-00400-00115534-00115707 with what you saw right in front of you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00401-00115708-00116043 we weren't thinking about Howie you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00402-00116044-00116346 like they here was our forward thinking _YI3R-m_QaQ-00403-00116347-00116607 whoever came up with the idea of a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00404-00116608-00116877 citizen Academy where citizens would do _YI3R-m_QaQ-00405-00116878-00117105 a mock police academy to see what it was _YI3R-m_QaQ-00406-00117106-00117369 like yeah be framed we thought that was _YI3R-m_QaQ-00407-00117370-00117624 forward thinking hmm we'll all we were _YI3R-m_QaQ-00408-00117625-00117768 doing was letting them see why we think _YI3R-m_QaQ-00409-00117769-00117984 the way we think we're still thinking _YI3R-m_QaQ-00410-00117985-00118248 we're still thinking a little off yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-00411-00118249-00118380 so we were showing them what we were _YI3R-m_QaQ-00412-00118381-00118638 when we were taught but we still weren't _YI3R-m_QaQ-00413-00118639-00118845 learning the tools the things that we _YI3R-m_QaQ-00414-00118846-00119073 needed I want to I want to draw from a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00415-00119074-00119256 couple of media examples one of them is _YI3R-m_QaQ-00416-00119257-00119487 George Floyd when you look at a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00417-00119488-00119964 situation like that and in particular in _YI3R-m_QaQ-00418-00119965-00120225 your view what happened in the George _YI3R-m_QaQ-00419-00120226-00120375 Floyd situation from a policing _YI3R-m_QaQ-00420-00120376-00120621 perspective were the police officers _YI3R-m_QaQ-00421-00120622-00120801 just doing what they were trained to do _YI3R-m_QaQ-00422-00120802-00121095 is it bad policing was it fears at _YI3R-m_QaQ-00423-00121096-00121302 adrenaline or or something else what's _YI3R-m_QaQ-00424-00121303-00121599 your let's look at the George Floyd bad _YI3R-m_QaQ-00425-00121600-00121833 situation for just a moment so in in my _YI3R-m_QaQ-00426-00121834-00122070 opinion number one the other officers on _YI3R-m_QaQ-00427-00122071-00122481 the scene didn't realize that what this _YI3R-m_QaQ-00428-00122482-00122843 one guy was doing could result of death _YI3R-m_QaQ-00429-00122844-00123291 we're not trained to realize that action _YI3R-m_QaQ-00430-00123292-00123611 could result in death _YI3R-m_QaQ-00431-00123612-00123987 okay that was missing we're not trained _YI3R-m_QaQ-00432-00123988-00124095 on that okay _YI3R-m_QaQ-00433-00124096-00124674 secondly that's him bury me he did that _YI3R-m_QaQ-00434-00124675-00125094 I didn't okay we were not taught the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00435-00125095-00125374 responsibility of each other _YI3R-m_QaQ-00436-00125375-00125788 right we were not taught that when we _YI3R-m_QaQ-00437-00125789-00126142 see this we have to react not not just _YI3R-m_QaQ-00438-00126143-00126313 to the bad guy but to the good guy we _YI3R-m_QaQ-00439-00126314-00126556 have to say we're not trained where we _YI3R-m_QaQ-00440-00126557-00126877 were not trying to say get off of him _YI3R-m_QaQ-00441-00126878-00127099 you're doing it improperly your _YI3R-m_QaQ-00442-00127100-00127402 technique is not approved we were taught _YI3R-m_QaQ-00443-00127403-00127615 to go hey when they call me in and asked _YI3R-m_QaQ-00444-00127616-00127744 me what did I see I want to tell the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00445-00127745-00127929 truth don't you know I'm not gonna lie _YI3R-m_QaQ-00446-00127930-00128227 that that's how we dealt with guys like _YI3R-m_QaQ-00447-00128228-00128728 him we simply said somebody will go back _YI3R-m_QaQ-00448-00128729-00128883 and say hey Sarge just want you to know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00449-00128884-00129064 he had his knee on his neck that's when _YI3R-m_QaQ-00450-00129065-00129250 I don't want no part of it yet people _YI3R-m_QaQ-00451-00129251-00129384 like that and then you have people who _YI3R-m_QaQ-00452-00129385-00129550 just sit back and go they ask me I'm _YI3R-m_QaQ-00453-00129551-00129628 telling the truth _YI3R-m_QaQ-00454-00129629-00129781 yeah I didn't question edge you're _YI3R-m_QaQ-00455-00129782-00130242 fuming that was just III don't remember _YI3R-m_QaQ-00456-00130243-00130860 so you know we're all out there to try _YI3R-m_QaQ-00457-00130861-00131068 to help and do things better _YI3R-m_QaQ-00458-00131069-00131365 yeah hurt each other so but that's the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00459-00131366-00131749 hard part is you know it's what side are _YI3R-m_QaQ-00460-00131750-00131800 you on _YI3R-m_QaQ-00461-00131801-00132196 you know what I was bad guy yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-00462-00132197-00132544 something bad happen but but as we see _YI3R-m_QaQ-00463-00132545-00132823 today we've got to police ourselves we _YI3R-m_QaQ-00464-00132824-00133030 can gotta say hey stop _YI3R-m_QaQ-00465-00133031-00133378 no you stop bad guy give me a minute let _YI3R-m_QaQ-00466-00133379-00133624 me talk to my partner partner what you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00467-00133625-00133852 gone away you know you we have to be _YI3R-m_QaQ-00468-00133853-00134131 taught to do that yeah that hasn't been _YI3R-m_QaQ-00469-00134132-00134374 taught and that's why that that happened _YI3R-m_QaQ-00470-00134375-00134662 yeah yeah that's why that happened Wow _YI3R-m_QaQ-00471-00134663-00134941 from a from a police from a police _YI3R-m_QaQ-00472-00134942-00135430 technique perspective the guy's knee is _YI3R-m_QaQ-00473-00135431-00135706 on the guys neck okay four eight eight _YI3R-m_QaQ-00474-00135707-00136027 minutes and seven 42:46 or something _YI3R-m_QaQ-00475-00136028-00136255 like that yeah we counted actually it _YI3R-m_QaQ-00476-00136256-00136459 was started off at eight they ran the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00477-00136460-00136636 tape back and came back said it was _YI3R-m_QaQ-00478-00136637-00136816 actually seven minutes and 47 seconds _YI3R-m_QaQ-00479-00136817-00137194 big long but it's still like is it from _YI3R-m_QaQ-00480-00137195-00137473 a technique perspective is it proper _YI3R-m_QaQ-00481-00137474-00137686 tech is it just proper technique to like _YI3R-m_QaQ-00482-00137687-00137881 to have your neck on so have you started _YI3R-m_QaQ-00483-00137882-00138079 to have your knee on somebody's neck _YI3R-m_QaQ-00484-00138080-00138247 I've never been taught that actually _YI3R-m_QaQ-00485-00138248-00138508 I've never been taught under any _YI3R-m_QaQ-00486-00138509-00138638 circumstance _YI3R-m_QaQ-00487-00138639-00138836 um that that's the technique to use _YI3R-m_QaQ-00488-00138837-00139097 that's funny I pitch I go back to my _YI3R-m_QaQ-00489-00139098-00139355 training and I remember handcuffing and _YI3R-m_QaQ-00490-00139356-00139550 blade on your side and putting your _YI3R-m_QaQ-00491-00139551-00139802 knees but it was always between the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00492-00139803-00140011 shoulder blade was I just never recall _YI3R-m_QaQ-00493-00140012-00140242 now we've never been trying to do that _YI3R-m_QaQ-00494-00140243-00140597 that's just you know that's what one _YI3R-m_QaQ-00495-00140598-00140924 person chooses to do yeah yeah it's _YI3R-m_QaQ-00496-00140925-00141212 definitely not training yeah no thank _YI3R-m_QaQ-00497-00141213-00141359 you for that I think that that's helpful _YI3R-m_QaQ-00498-00141360-00141704 because you know as I look at it so I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00499-00141705-00141953 and and and I've done I've done a little _YI3R-m_QaQ-00500-00141954-00142076 bit of consulting with law enforcement _YI3R-m_QaQ-00501-00142077-00142301 actually and and one of the things that _YI3R-m_QaQ-00502-00142302-00142613 I learned is that in a in a threat _YI3R-m_QaQ-00503-00142614-00142811 situation or in in a situation of high _YI3R-m_QaQ-00504-00142812-00142943 stress or where there could be _YI3R-m_QaQ-00505-00142944-00143060 potentially be a threat _YI3R-m_QaQ-00506-00143061-00143315 you put the threat down clearly the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00507-00143316-00143603 threat was down right so you know like _YI3R-m_QaQ-00508-00143604-00143837 there's n there were and he had backup _YI3R-m_QaQ-00509-00143838-00144116 it's not like he was alone right so if _YI3R-m_QaQ-00510-00144117-00144266 we were to look at it forensic ly it _YI3R-m_QaQ-00511-00144267-00144455 just I feel like oh there's just a lot _YI3R-m_QaQ-00512-00144456-00144650 that went wrong in that particular _YI3R-m_QaQ-00513-00144651-00145153 situation and Wow _YI3R-m_QaQ-00514-00145154-00145418 so I want to look I want to talk about _YI3R-m_QaQ-00515-00145419-00145589 another situation that happened just _YI3R-m_QaQ-00516-00145590-00145691 recently _YI3R-m_QaQ-00517-00145692-00145964 Rashard Brooks you're familiar with it _YI3R-m_QaQ-00518-00145965-00146183 with the case in the Atlantic case right _YI3R-m_QaQ-00519-00146184-00146455 the Atlantic case yeah and and so _YI3R-m_QaQ-00520-00146456-00146747 similar situation but it starts out _YI3R-m_QaQ-00521-00146748-00146996 starts out front you know ok falls _YI3R-m_QaQ-00522-00146997-00147221 asleep he's drunk and in a Wendy's _YI3R-m_QaQ-00523-00147222-00147506 drive-through police are called probably _YI3R-m_QaQ-00524-00147507-00147746 you know probably an excessive _YI3R-m_QaQ-00525-00147747-00148166 you know response to that situation the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00526-00148167-00148484 guy an uber you know but you you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00527-00148485-00148697 probably saw you probably saw what _YI3R-m_QaQ-00528-00148698-00149096 happened he you know he you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00529-00149097-00149309 actually you know tased one of the one _YI3R-m_QaQ-00530-00149310-00149510 of the officers and like it so it _YI3R-m_QaQ-00531-00149511-00149831 escalated escalated very badly and then _YI3R-m_QaQ-00532-00149832-00150100 and the nation ended up shooting him _YI3R-m_QaQ-00533-00150101-00150458 again from a from a technical police _YI3R-m_QaQ-00534-00150459-00150779 work perspective walk us through that _YI3R-m_QaQ-00535-00150780-00151031 you know what do they do right they you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00536-00151032-00151358 do wrong I mean is is at a it is a Taser _YI3R-m_QaQ-00537-00151359-00151838 a deadly threat weapon you know it's a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00538-00151839-00152027 you know talk us through that just from _YI3R-m_QaQ-00539-00152028-00152058 a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00540-00152059-00152361 go police work perspective wow this is _YI3R-m_QaQ-00541-00152362-00152544 this is a this is a tough one _YI3R-m_QaQ-00542-00152545-00152889 hmm it really is a tough one um it _YI3R-m_QaQ-00543-00152890-00153207 really is tough but it goes back to you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00544-00153208-00153353 know what you're trained to do and how _YI3R-m_QaQ-00545-00153354-00153660 much time you have to process things in _YI3R-m_QaQ-00546-00153661-00153953 your brain yeah how much time do you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00547-00153954-00154314 really mean for me Monday Morning _YI3R-m_QaQ-00548-00154315-00154502 Quarterback is easy I sit back and watch _YI3R-m_QaQ-00549-00154503-00154734 it Monday morning and go yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-00550-00154735-00154907 why didn't this even go this far right _YI3R-m_QaQ-00551-00154908-00155228 number one what why are we here the guys _YI3R-m_QaQ-00552-00155229-00155690 speaking clearly falls asleep robotic _YI3R-m_QaQ-00553-00155691-00156021 policing robotic policing I don't know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00554-00156022-00156372 you and I'm gonna I know that the law _YI3R-m_QaQ-00555-00156373-00156665 says that if you the keys are readily _YI3R-m_QaQ-00556-00156666-00156929 available and you're in behind the wheel _YI3R-m_QaQ-00557-00156930-00157176 even though your car is not moving but I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00558-00157177-00157640 can make a DWI arrest that's all you're _YI3R-m_QaQ-00559-00157641-00157809 thinking is I've got all the elements of _YI3R-m_QaQ-00560-00157810-00158013 a crime and I'm gonna make this and I'm _YI3R-m_QaQ-00561-00158014-00158270 gonna be a hero and I'm gonna you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00562-00158271-00158676 check it off that III lock them up yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-00563-00158677-00159183 that's why not help when I take the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00564-00159184-00159427 whole different approach you go alright _YI3R-m_QaQ-00565-00159428-00159699 forget the DWI I don't care buddy _YI3R-m_QaQ-00566-00159700-00159885 they've got I got you the car is not _YI3R-m_QaQ-00567-00159886-00159941 moving _YI3R-m_QaQ-00568-00159942-00160281 God look let's get you where you need to _YI3R-m_QaQ-00569-00160282-00160328 be _YI3R-m_QaQ-00570-00160329-00160656 let's get you help cause they actually _YI3R-m_QaQ-00571-00160657-00160863 were so afraid he's like hey can he _YI3R-m_QaQ-00572-00160864-00161003 cross him I'm right in a block _YI3R-m_QaQ-00573-00161004-00161232 you know he's speaking clearly yeah we _YI3R-m_QaQ-00574-00161233-00161402 shouldn't as law enforcement allow that _YI3R-m_QaQ-00575-00161403-00161775 to escalate don't let it state mm we _YI3R-m_QaQ-00576-00161776-00161903 should look we should alert state but _YI3R-m_QaQ-00577-00161904-00162026 that's me Monday Morning Quarterback you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00578-00162027-00162251 rank that's me going in one for now _YI3R-m_QaQ-00579-00162252-00162513 we don't do that yeah so then it's then _YI3R-m_QaQ-00580-00162514-00162723 it escalates and we want to make the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00581-00162724-00162944 arrest _YI3R-m_QaQ-00582-00162945-00163293 certainly it was me on either side if _YI3R-m_QaQ-00583-00163294-00163437 I'm behind the wheel of the car I'm _YI3R-m_QaQ-00584-00163438-00163715 gonna for eight I mean I'm me personally _YI3R-m_QaQ-00585-00163716-00163841 how I grew up Who I am _YI3R-m_QaQ-00586-00163842-00164228 I go this is what I have to do but I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00587-00164229-00164496 don't expect him to be me same thing the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00588-00164497-00164852 officer yeah I wouldn't a shot okay but _YI3R-m_QaQ-00589-00164853-00165188 that's me right but but when you when _YI3R-m_QaQ-00590-00165189-00165309 you're thinking you're doing police work _YI3R-m_QaQ-00591-00165310-00165413 and you think you're doing it the way _YI3R-m_QaQ-00592-00165414-00165443 you were _YI3R-m_QaQ-00593-00165444-00165628 Green and you got a person that was you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00594-00165629-00165754 had thought you thought you had in _YI3R-m_QaQ-00595-00165755-00166012 custody try to run from you turns to _YI3R-m_QaQ-00596-00166013-00166244 shoot at you and your brain really say _YI3R-m_QaQ-00597-00166245-00166366 hey even if you shoot me that thing _YI3R-m_QaQ-00598-00166367-00166456 can't hurt me _YI3R-m_QaQ-00599-00166457-00166839 mmm or kenick _YI3R-m_QaQ-00600-00166840-00167109 his training is don't let that obstacle _YI3R-m_QaQ-00601-00167110-00167291 hit me I'll be done _YI3R-m_QaQ-00602-00167292-00167628 mmm then I'll lose that I don't get to _YI3R-m_QaQ-00603-00167629-00167706 go home _YI3R-m_QaQ-00604-00167707-00168000 yeah I can't judge him for making that _YI3R-m_QaQ-00605-00168001-00168225 kind of thought process yet having that _YI3R-m_QaQ-00606-00168226-00168435 thought process and making the wrong _YI3R-m_QaQ-00607-00168436-00168893 decision to shoot I'm I know I know I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00608-00168894-00169320 retired from an injury a shot I I didn't _YI3R-m_QaQ-00609-00169321-00169590 shoot I because I didn't it wasn't the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00610-00169591-00169878 right time now I'm fortunate to make _YI3R-m_QaQ-00611-00169879-00170049 that right decision that we could be _YI3R-m_QaQ-00612-00170050-00170163 sitting here talking about and remember _YI3R-m_QaQ-00613-00170164-00170475 the case with Powell but my five when he _YI3R-m_QaQ-00614-00170476-00170826 shot the unarmed guy right right so so I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00615-00170827-00170982 made the right decision and I don't want _YI3R-m_QaQ-00616-00170983-00171237 to judge him for making the wrong hmm _YI3R-m_QaQ-00617-00171238-00171471 that's a tough decision to me _YI3R-m_QaQ-00618-00171472-00171861 yeah very tough decision to me and I I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00619-00171862-00172293 think if he was trained better right but _YI3R-m_QaQ-00620-00172294-00172524 how can you train for scenario that you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00621-00172525-00172809 don't ever never imagine I just couldn't _YI3R-m_QaQ-00622-00172810-00173100 imagine being in a training academy of _YI3R-m_QaQ-00623-00173101-00173397 scenario and they say and then the guy _YI3R-m_QaQ-00624-00173398-00173754 takes your taser and runs away that's _YI3R-m_QaQ-00625-00173755-00173907 where the training would stop is the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00626-00173908-00174123 training would stop with would you shoot _YI3R-m_QaQ-00627-00174124-00174285 him as he runs away with your taser and _YI3R-m_QaQ-00628-00174286-00174443 then everybody in the class would go _YI3R-m_QaQ-00629-00174444-00174888 yeah 1999 for 7ik laughs ago no no they _YI3R-m_QaQ-00630-00174889-00175035 don't let him go you know you got his _YI3R-m_QaQ-00631-00175036-00175179 driver's license his car go get you a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00632-00175180-00175557 Taser - the next day when right right I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00633-00175558-00175878 couldn't imagine the training instructor _YI3R-m_QaQ-00634-00175879-00176190 having them for thought to say what _YI3R-m_QaQ-00635-00176191-00176262 would if he turned _YI3R-m_QaQ-00636-00176263-00176399 [Music] _YI3R-m_QaQ-00637-00176400-00176852 shot that taser toward you can you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00638-00176853-00177164 process is he a good shot is the Taser _YI3R-m_QaQ-00639-00177165-00177365 really aimed at me is it just a man in _YI3R-m_QaQ-00640-00177366-00177650 the air to scare me now that he's aimed _YI3R-m_QaQ-00641-00177651-00177878 it to scare you cause I don't have to _YI3R-m_QaQ-00642-00177879-00178196 shoot him I can't train for that you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00643-00178197-00178358 know I mean you could try to train for _YI3R-m_QaQ-00644-00178359-00178553 it so therefore I choose not to judge _YI3R-m_QaQ-00645-00178554-00178913 yeah you know this is it's too much yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-00646-00178914-00179243 too much unless the officer was really _YI3R-m_QaQ-00647-00179244-00179471 equipped with the tools to make the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00648-00179472-00179639 right decision _YI3R-m_QaQ-00649-00179640-00179993 yeah that was tough yeah yeah I'm really _YI3R-m_QaQ-00650-00179994-00180143 with everything was a tough one a lot of _YI3R-m_QaQ-00651-00180144-00180425 us a lot of expected you know black _YI3R-m_QaQ-00652-00180426-00180650 officers and I've talked to many oh yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-00653-00180651-00180827 some of us says man he shouldn't have _YI3R-m_QaQ-00654-00180828-00181115 shot that guy and the other one if he _YI3R-m_QaQ-00655-00181116-00181355 had shot at you you think I mean you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00656-00181356-00181664 know the gun can you know that can put _YI3R-m_QaQ-00657-00181665-00181958 you on the ground right when we're kind _YI3R-m_QaQ-00658-00181959-00182267 of like 5050 with it we're like I don't _YI3R-m_QaQ-00659-00182268-00182387 think I don't take this shot I know I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00660-00182388-00183340 wouldn't think I wouldn't get chase yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-00661-00183341-00183641 I'm gonna call my buddies back at the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00662-00183642-00183773 department and they're gonna bring out _YI3R-m_QaQ-00663-00183774-00184007 this big tank think I catch you three _YI3R-m_QaQ-00664-00184008-00184187 blind one and sleep all right knowing _YI3R-m_QaQ-00665-00184188-00184717 I'm gonna rest I'm not gonna chase you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00666-00184718-00185084 yeah that's what yes that's from growing _YI3R-m_QaQ-00667-00185085-00185327 up in the community has seen the other _YI3R-m_QaQ-00668-00185328-00185591 side of it you know that's not I I can't _YI3R-m_QaQ-00669-00185592-00185762 expect everybody to feel that way _YI3R-m_QaQ-00670-00185763-00185996 everybody wants to chase and say I got _YI3R-m_QaQ-00671-00185997-00186281 him but I i credit I mean white and _YI3R-m_QaQ-00672-00186282-00186496 black officers who taught me early on _YI3R-m_QaQ-00673-00186497-00186872 where's he gonna go yeah yeah I mean a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00674-00186873-00187046 kid runs from we're just gonna go then _YI3R-m_QaQ-00675-00187047-00187292 you go get a warrant for that yeah get _YI3R-m_QaQ-00676-00187293-00187537 him later the fight another day _YI3R-m_QaQ-00677-00187538-00187751 everything doesn't have to be to the end _YI3R-m_QaQ-00678-00187752-00188261 you know yeah yeah how do you think this _YI3R-m_QaQ-00679-00188262-00188489 how do you think situations like this _YI3R-m_QaQ-00680-00188490-00188951 are going to impact police departments _YI3R-m_QaQ-00681-00188952-00189197 in the future from a just say from a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00682-00189198-00189416 training perspective or should impact _YI3R-m_QaQ-00683-00189417-00189701 them from a training perspective we're _YI3R-m_QaQ-00684-00189702-00190009 take a lot of steps back to move forward _YI3R-m_QaQ-00685-00190010-00190358 but in the end we're gonna win we're _YI3R-m_QaQ-00686-00190359-00190580 gonna we're gonna learn to respond _YI3R-m_QaQ-00687-00190581-00190934 better we're gonna learn how people are _YI3R-m_QaQ-00688-00190935-00191165 different yeah so many times people say _YI3R-m_QaQ-00689-00191166-00191426 you know you got to treat everybody to _YI3R-m_QaQ-00690-00191427-00191714 the same and you all taught that right _YI3R-m_QaQ-00691-00191715-00192035 yeah everybody the same you know now you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00692-00192036-00192239 really can't and I've said this for _YI3R-m_QaQ-00693-00192240-00192539 years and I've actually been accused of _YI3R-m_QaQ-00694-00192540-00192773 being a chameleon right a person who _YI3R-m_QaQ-00695-00192774-00192947 twitches like one day you talk to Walter _YI3R-m_QaQ-00696-00192948-00193106 you can see him talk to this person and _YI3R-m_QaQ-00697-00193107-00193265 in time it's a different person _YI3R-m_QaQ-00698-00193266-00193583 I don't treat people the same mm-hmm-hmm _YI3R-m_QaQ-00699-00193584-00193781 can't treat people saying you'll make a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00700-00193782-00194111 mistake yeah right yeah you pull over a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00701-00194112-00194366 white male 40 years old drunk you treat _YI3R-m_QaQ-00702-00194367-00194528 him just like that 40 year old black _YI3R-m_QaQ-00703-00194529-00194567 male _YI3R-m_QaQ-00704-00194568-00194758 that's drunk you have different outcome _YI3R-m_QaQ-00705-00194759-00194996 you better be equipped to deal with both _YI3R-m_QaQ-00706-00194997-00195281 differently not not that one deserve a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00707-00195282-00195497 different treatment from the other yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-00708-00195498-00195731 they're different you gotta know how to _YI3R-m_QaQ-00709-00195732-00195848 communicate with the person you're _YI3R-m_QaQ-00710-00195849-00196033 dealing with because their life _YI3R-m_QaQ-00711-00196034-00196514 experiences are different you understand _YI3R-m_QaQ-00712-00196515-00196886 you got it you got to know how to read _YI3R-m_QaQ-00713-00196887-00197254 people it's just you got to know how to _YI3R-m_QaQ-00714-00197255-00197839 to respond to that person everybody _YI3R-m_QaQ-00715-00197840-00198259 you can't treat an 80 year old woman who _YI3R-m_QaQ-00716-00198260-00198532 goes into her purse to get an inhaler _YI3R-m_QaQ-00717-00198533-00198854 any way you treat a 30 year old woman _YI3R-m_QaQ-00718-00198855-00199103 who goes into her purse you know you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00719-00199104-00199226 know what are you getting out of your _YI3R-m_QaQ-00720-00199227-00199409 purse you know I can assure you that 80 _YI3R-m_QaQ-00721-00199410-00199565 euro lady is not going to get anything _YI3R-m_QaQ-00722-00199566-00199664 that's going to hurt you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00723-00199665-00199886 don't hurt her no slammer on the ground _YI3R-m_QaQ-00724-00199887-00200210 and that's what we do we train for the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00725-00200211-00200432 scenario we don't we don't we don't _YI3R-m_QaQ-00726-00200433-00200741 process the totality of circumstances _YI3R-m_QaQ-00727-00200742-00201041 let's look at the whole picture yeah so _YI3R-m_QaQ-00728-00201042-00201230 I think in police and I think we will I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00729-00201231-00201392 think we'll take a step back I think _YI3R-m_QaQ-00730-00201393-00201590 we'll take a huge hit within the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00731-00201591-00201755 community I think a lot of good cops _YI3R-m_QaQ-00732-00201756-00201995 will retire and be afraid they'll be _YI3R-m_QaQ-00733-00201996-00202223 eligible and nuovo you know what they _YI3R-m_QaQ-00734-00202224-00202364 will go to the wall then I'm gonna go _YI3R-m_QaQ-00735-00202365-00202628 into private security and get out of _YI3R-m_QaQ-00736-00202629-00202823 this policing I think we'll pick up a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00737-00202824-00203036 unique batch I say unique not bad _YI3R-m_QaQ-00738-00203037-00203336 the unique batch of officers for a while _YI3R-m_QaQ-00739-00203337-00203633 rank will have all these these officers _YI3R-m_QaQ-00740-00203634-00204166 who probably would have been _YI3R-m_QaQ-00741-00204167-00204623 clerks psychologists you know going to _YI3R-m_QaQ-00742-00204624-00204838 school to get their you know to become a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00743-00204839-00205001 medical doctor and you know I you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00744-00205002-00205103 please _YI3R-m_QaQ-00745-00205104-00205336 and I don't give that softer and I don't _YI3R-m_QaQ-00746-00205337-00205544 even even done you know that mentality _YI3R-m_QaQ-00747-00205544-00205805 of I'm just here to help and then one _YI3R-m_QaQ-00748-00205806-00206194 step back we'll learn how to deal with _YI3R-m_QaQ-00749-00206196-00206416 people and then we'll see the new new _YI3R-m_QaQ-00750-00206417-00206654 policing comes on yeah with a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00751-00206655-00206777 combination of both _YI3R-m_QaQ-00752-00206778-00207059 yeah and we'll well then and restore _YI3R-m_QaQ-00753-00207060-00207209 order and I save your store because _YI3R-m_QaQ-00754-00207210-00207386 we're gonna lose it yeah we're gonna _YI3R-m_QaQ-00755-00207387-00207554 lose it we're gonna step back and we're _YI3R-m_QaQ-00756-00207555-00208019 gonna lose some water but but law _YI3R-m_QaQ-00757-00208019-00208273 enforcement will win yeah we'll learn _YI3R-m_QaQ-00758-00208275-00208475 respond well we'll learn better how to _YI3R-m_QaQ-00759-00208476-00208741 respond yeah like like things like this _YI3R-m_QaQ-00760-00208742-00209060 you know people like you you know right _YI3R-m_QaQ-00761-00209061-00209429 on yeah yeah and some people have have _YI3R-m_QaQ-00762-00209430-00209746 talked about defunding police you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00763-00209748-00210008 like even in and have gone so far in _YI3R-m_QaQ-00764-00210009-00210203 Seattle for example they said made it _YI3R-m_QaQ-00765-00210204-00210407 like a no police though like you're _YI3R-m_QaQ-00766-00210408-00210569 we've taken over the people have taken _YI3R-m_QaQ-00767-00210569-00210764 over it's like right matter many _YI3R-m_QaQ-00768-00210765-00210983 Bolshevik Revolution in Seattle like _YI3R-m_QaQ-00769-00210984-00211169 what the heck is going on _YI3R-m_QaQ-00770-00211169-00211433 you know defunding police what do you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00771-00211434-00211625 think is that is that even a viable _YI3R-m_QaQ-00772-00211626-00212323 solution there is it no now you can't be _YI3R-m_QaQ-00773-00212325-00212492 fun police but but what you have to do _YI3R-m_QaQ-00774-00212492-00212623 is you have to use a term to get the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00775-00212625-00212923 attention of what it means to be fun I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00776-00212923-00213446 like right if you said um imagine the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00777-00213446-00213667 writing on the wall the graffiti was not _YI3R-m_QaQ-00778-00213669-00214013 defund were police but it was hey _YI3R-m_QaQ-00779-00214014-00214273 reallocate 10% of the police funding and _YI3R-m_QaQ-00780-00214275-00214412 put it into social and that's been a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00781-00214413-00214748 recovery it's right read there right _YI3R-m_QaQ-00782-00214748-00214955 defund the police it's the attention _YI3R-m_QaQ-00783-00214956-00215225 yeah and that's what's needed you need _YI3R-m_QaQ-00784-00215226-00215438 to say it so you'll so you will come _YI3R-m_QaQ-00785-00215439-00215813 down mm-hmm aim aim high and miss right _YI3R-m_QaQ-00786-00215814-00215912 right right _YI3R-m_QaQ-00787-00215913-00216119 hang high and this is okay rather than _YI3R-m_QaQ-00788-00216119-00216392 hey me low a hidden it so so the funding _YI3R-m_QaQ-00789-00216392-00216446 the police _YI3R-m_QaQ-00790-00216448-00216725 it's just Amy hi it's not gonna happen _YI3R-m_QaQ-00791-00216726-00217089 right some some some departments will _YI3R-m_QaQ-00792-00217090-00217248 make some adjustments so they can say _YI3R-m_QaQ-00793-00217248-00217539 hey we've taken $40,000 of police _YI3R-m_QaQ-00794-00217540-00217709 funding and we've put it into _YI3R-m_QaQ-00795-00217710-00218135 community-based you know whatever yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-00796-00218136-00218426 okay now we're talking now now we're _YI3R-m_QaQ-00797-00218427-00218708 doing it but just 20 link saying pull _YI3R-m_QaQ-00798-00218709-00219065 out really crazy yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-00799-00219066-00219302 are we here to protect the weak and the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00800-00219303-00219600 innocent that's what we do mmm you don't _YI3R-m_QaQ-00801-00219601-00219888 think you can't fall out but the funding _YI3R-m_QaQ-00802-00219889-00220103 is not pulling out you're saying let's _YI3R-m_QaQ-00803-00220104-00220451 look at how you're spending your money _YI3R-m_QaQ-00804-00220452-00220767 is it the most appropriate way and _YI3R-m_QaQ-00805-00220767-00220998 that's what defunding police advise no _YI3R-m_QaQ-00806-00220998-00221303 it cannot be about _YI3R-m_QaQ-00807-00221304-00221458 take those guys off the clock how many _YI3R-m_QaQ-00808-00221459-00221603 CAPTCHA gallon straight 20 we're unable _YI3R-m_QaQ-00809-00221604-00222631 to don't do that don't do that so if you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00810-00222632-00222929 were to give advice to either local _YI3R-m_QaQ-00811-00222930-00223183 state or national leaders about law _YI3R-m_QaQ-00812-00223184-00223509 enforcement about different _YI3R-m_QaQ-00813-00223510-00223746 improvements to make to law enforcement _YI3R-m_QaQ-00814-00223747-00223977 everywhere what sort of general advice _YI3R-m_QaQ-00815-00223978-00224617 would you give them well a lot of it we _YI3R-m_QaQ-00816-00224617-00224979 do now right is is we hire from within _YI3R-m_QaQ-00817-00224980-00225384 our communities right is almost you can _YI3R-m_QaQ-00818-00225385-00225613 almost guarantee a kid a job yeah then _YI3R-m_QaQ-00819-00225614-00225913 you catch them at 12 and catch me at 12 _YI3R-m_QaQ-00820-00225914-00226110 point when you can say to him you want _YI3R-m_QaQ-00821-00226111-00226284 to be a police officer 21 here's your _YI3R-m_QaQ-00822-00226285-00226467 gonna start now at 12 you're gonna _YI3R-m_QaQ-00823-00226469-00226746 you're gonna into these programs you're _YI3R-m_QaQ-00824-00226747-00226990 gonna learn early you know and then you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00825-00226991-00227151 in there not Ematic we're bringing you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00826-00227152-00227397 on till we've we've we've matured you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00827-00227398-00227595 you know we've massage you we've taught _YI3R-m_QaQ-00828-00227596-00227973 you the way and you're from your own _YI3R-m_QaQ-00829-00227974-00228027 community _YI3R-m_QaQ-00830-00228028-00228267 you're from week we try to do that but _YI3R-m_QaQ-00831-00228269-00228507 what happens during recruitment is a kid _YI3R-m_QaQ-00832-00228508-00228783 tells you you know yeah okay so let's _YI3R-m_QaQ-00833-00228784-00229254 let's just use local DC kid grows up in _YI3R-m_QaQ-00834-00229255-00229615 Southeast DC that is 20 to 21 years old _YI3R-m_QaQ-00835-00229616-00229741 he decides I want to be a police officer _YI3R-m_QaQ-00836-00229742-00230097 and the police officer recruiter looks _YI3R-m_QaQ-00837-00230098-00230373 at amigos so if you smoked marijuana _YI3R-m_QaQ-00838-00230374-00230829 back in 2012 you're done you know you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00839-00230830-00230989 don't have a you don't have a bachelor's _YI3R-m_QaQ-00840-00230990-00231309 degree you're done and then and then you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00841-00231310-00231450 just missed a kid that would have made _YI3R-m_QaQ-00842-00231451-00231723 some incredible changes in his community _YI3R-m_QaQ-00843-00231724-00232042 yeah let's see so we got it we got him _YI3R-m_QaQ-00844-00232042-00232642 we gotta help these local kids become _YI3R-m_QaQ-00845-00232642-00232782 these officers because not everybody _YI3R-m_QaQ-00846-00232783-00233041 made the right decision at 14 15 16 _YI3R-m_QaQ-00847-00233042-00233304 years old right right and then we say _YI3R-m_QaQ-00848-00233305-00233649 man I'm a good friend it was a recruiter _YI3R-m_QaQ-00849-00233650-00233829 and it's just some of the things we talk _YI3R-m_QaQ-00850-00233830-00234219 about that you know people he believed _YI3R-m_QaQ-00851-00234220-00234492 could would be a great cop and you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00852-00234494-00234720 his you know people above him say I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00853-00234721-00234894 don't I don't like this background here _YI3R-m_QaQ-00854-00234895-00235141 you know I don't like this you know when _YI3R-m_QaQ-00855-00235142-00235434 he was 12 he you know my son _YI3R-m_QaQ-00856-00235435-00235878 Mike my very own son who applied for a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00857-00235879-00236535 department mm-hmm and he had posted a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00858-00236536-00237078 video of a music group that has guns on _YI3R-m_QaQ-00859-00237079-00237337 their videos yeah and that's it you're _YI3R-m_QaQ-00860-00237338-00237460 done kid _YI3R-m_QaQ-00861-00237461-00237646 but I know my kids a good kid but he _YI3R-m_QaQ-00862-00237647-00237981 didn't make yeah so you got it you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00863-00237982-00238572 yeah you gotta just think about you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00864-00238573-00238882 who you're recruiting because because _YI3R-m_QaQ-00865-00238883-00239107 let me tell you my opinion oh I don't _YI3R-m_QaQ-00866-00239108-00239380 know if this is one of your questions my _YI3R-m_QaQ-00867-00239381-00239677 opinion oh it reminds me of reminds me I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00868-00239678-00239840 think it's spider-man _YI3R-m_QaQ-00869-00239841-00240092 I think it's vitamin maybe that's not _YI3R-m_QaQ-00870-00240092-00240469 the right heat heroic character but _YI3R-m_QaQ-00871-00240469-00240641 whatever is in you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00872-00240642-00240880 oh man is the Hulk whatever is in you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00873-00240881-00241126 when you get this gamma ray or this _YI3R-m_QaQ-00874-00241127-00241466 spider bite you know and it makes you it _YI3R-m_QaQ-00875-00241467-00241875 just magnifies what's already in there _YI3R-m_QaQ-00876-00241876-00242125 when you put on a uniform it doesn't _YI3R-m_QaQ-00877-00242126-00242519 change you it brings out what's in there _YI3R-m_QaQ-00878-00242519-00242894 yeah it makes it stronger right it _YI3R-m_QaQ-00879-00242894-00243113 doesn't take you you don't you don't get _YI3R-m_QaQ-00880-00243114-00243673 it uh you don't get an apple and put a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00881-00243674-00243847 police uniform on and all of a sudden _YI3R-m_QaQ-00882-00243848-00244135 goes outside and some orange it becomes _YI3R-m_QaQ-00883-00244136-00244238 a juicy Apple _YI3R-m_QaQ-00884-00244239-00244552 you understand right and that's what _YI3R-m_QaQ-00885-00244553-00244804 happens right so you're not hiring these _YI3R-m_QaQ-00886-00244805-00244969 kids from your thing the community that _YI3R-m_QaQ-00887-00244971-00245200 know how to deal with the community Yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-00888-00245201-00245554 right you're hiring kids from outside _YI3R-m_QaQ-00889-00245555-00245725 the community who's never been exposed _YI3R-m_QaQ-00890-00245726-00245929 to what the kids inside the community _YI3R-m_QaQ-00891-00245930-00246205 and then you put that uniform and then _YI3R-m_QaQ-00892-00246206-00246614 you send that Apple into you know a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00893-00246615-00246832 community that's not ready for this big _YI3R-m_QaQ-00894-00246833-00247048 juicy Apple because now his head is big _YI3R-m_QaQ-00895-00247049-00247282 and I got this big uniform on and I've _YI3R-m_QaQ-00896-00247283-00247576 read all the books on how to do this and _YI3R-m_QaQ-00897-00247577-00247858 they're responding correctly mm-hmm yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-00898-00247859-00248074 so I honestly I would just say you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00899-00248075-00248305 to two departments you know focus on _YI3R-m_QaQ-00900-00248306-00248628 your community your neighborhood kids _YI3R-m_QaQ-00901-00248629-00248956 not just looking for the ones and here's _YI3R-m_QaQ-00902-00248957-00249004 the other thing _YI3R-m_QaQ-00903-00249005-00249277 like I said often we we we look for the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00904-00249278-00249373 ones that float to the top _YI3R-m_QaQ-00905-00249374-00249769 yes we just wait for word to float right _YI3R-m_QaQ-00906-00249771-00249979 and we scoop it off the top we want the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00907-00249980-00250244 cream but we want return it we don't _YI3R-m_QaQ-00908-00250244-00250477 want to make it right we want to take _YI3R-m_QaQ-00909-00250478-00250744 what floats on his own yeah we getting _YI3R-m_QaQ-00910-00250746-00250881 that barrel and turn it _YI3R-m_QaQ-00911-00250882-00251181 you know and make some changes we'll see _YI3R-m_QaQ-00912-00251182-00251457 a lot more floaters right right and and _YI3R-m_QaQ-00913-00251458-00251615 then you you take on a different role _YI3R-m_QaQ-00914-00251616-00251892 actually as protectors of the community _YI3R-m_QaQ-00915-00251892-00252090 because you are in the community you're _YI3R-m_QaQ-00916-00252091-00252303 not just you're not just policing it _YI3R-m_QaQ-00917-00252304-00252459 you're not just monitoring it you're not _YI3R-m_QaQ-00918-00252460-00252834 just the warrior on duty you are you're _YI3R-m_QaQ-00919-00252835-00253083 cultivating the community you know you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00920-00253084-00253392 know the community you you're a part of _YI3R-m_QaQ-00921-00253392-00253617 the community it's it changes your role _YI3R-m_QaQ-00922-00253617-00253871 entirely what you're outlining _YI3R-m_QaQ-00923-00253871-00254171 absolutely no absolutely that's that's _YI3R-m_QaQ-00924-00254173-00254286 that's so important _YI3R-m_QaQ-00925-00254287-00254492 you uh you go to the cookout in the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00926-00254494-00254648 community now because you're the cop you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00927-00254650-00255291 know the way uniform it just go they _YI3R-m_QaQ-00928-00255292-00255426 would invite you to a cookout but you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00929-00255427-00255585 thought I got to go in uniform because I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00930-00255586-00255969 still got a beat yeah my day off you've _YI3R-m_QaQ-00931-00255969-00256191 invited me I'm coming and then all your _YI3R-m_QaQ-00932-00256192-00256859 friends there we go he's one of us yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-00933-00256860-00257021 that's what you need _YI3R-m_QaQ-00934-00257023-00257442 yeah that's what yeah but we worry so _YI3R-m_QaQ-00935-00257442-00257586 much about what people say about and _YI3R-m_QaQ-00936-00257587-00257717 think about us because you were over _YI3R-m_QaQ-00937-00257719-00257921 that guy's house or you were talking to _YI3R-m_QaQ-00938-00257923-00258030 him on the corner I thought you were a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00939-00258031-00258246 police officer why were you at you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-00940-00258246-00258360 the Johnsons why were you at the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00941-00258361-00258594 Powell's officer Jones robber you at the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00942-00258594-00258813 Powell's they're bad people well they _YI3R-m_QaQ-00943-00258814-00258948 invited me to the cookout and I wanted _YI3R-m_QaQ-00944-00258948-00259278 to go yeah yeah and I didn't go in _YI3R-m_QaQ-00945-00259279-00259464 uniform to to maintain their level of _YI3R-m_QaQ-00946-00259465-00259794 authority then right today right right _YI3R-m_QaQ-00947-00259794-00260298 yeah so and you you were you actually _YI3R-m_QaQ-00948-00260298-00260594 mentioned your son and so you've you've _YI3R-m_QaQ-00949-00260596-00260838 you know a few kids and they're all _YI3R-m_QaQ-00950-00260839-00261296 adult age or yes so they'll age did you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00951-00261298-00261633 ever feel like you had to sit down with _YI3R-m_QaQ-00952-00261634-00262008 your kids and say all right kids because _YI3R-m_QaQ-00953-00262009-00262341 we are black this is what you should _YI3R-m_QaQ-00954-00262342-00262539 this is what you should expect in _YI3R-m_QaQ-00955-00262540-00262812 society did you ever hunt young person _YI3R-m_QaQ-00956-00262813-00263484 100% really well I mean I can't say when _YI3R-m_QaQ-00957-00263485-00263691 I was white I saw it differently right _YI3R-m_QaQ-00958-00263692-00263823 but I knew it _YI3R-m_QaQ-00959-00263824-00264051 I know Hey _YI3R-m_QaQ-00960-00264052-00264303 we believe because of what the little we _YI3R-m_QaQ-00961-00264304-00264540 see that that black people are _YI3R-m_QaQ-00962-00264541-00264798 aggressive they're faster is stronger so _YI3R-m_QaQ-00963-00264799-00264963 you you you you kind of respond _YI3R-m_QaQ-00964-00264964-00265260 differently so we tell the kids hey you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00965-00265261-00265389 get pulled over I don't care what the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00966-00265390-00265548 cop says I don't care if he don't care _YI3R-m_QaQ-00967-00265549-00265734 if he calls you the n-word if he tells _YI3R-m_QaQ-00968-00265735-00265854 you I'm here to rob you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00969-00265855-00266385 you say hey whatever you need I'm here _YI3R-m_QaQ-00970-00266386-00266616 to cooperate mm-hmm you record _YI3R-m_QaQ-00971-00266617-00266844 everything you remember right and then _YI3R-m_QaQ-00972-00266845-00266997 you live to fight another day tomorrow _YI3R-m_QaQ-00973-00266998-00267246 morning when you wake up you take your _YI3R-m_QaQ-00974-00267247-00267447 facts down to his to the to the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00975-00267448-00267762 department you report it you can't leave _YI3R-m_QaQ-00976-00267763-00268116 him you cannot beat an officer on a _YI3R-m_QaQ-00977-00268117-00268365 scene and and and that's what I'm saying _YI3R-m_QaQ-00978-00268366-00268506 today people are trying to beat the _YI3R-m_QaQ-00979-00268507-00268875 officers you know what you just said to _YI3R-m_QaQ-00980-00268876-00269097 me no that's wrong I'm gonna fight then _YI3R-m_QaQ-00981-00269098-00269219 it gets out of control _YI3R-m_QaQ-00982-00269220-00269451 yeah yeah we had a look at cameras _YI3R-m_QaQ-00983-00269452-00269997 ourselves Susan camera and then just go _YI3R-m_QaQ-00984-00269998-00270312 back and go I don't go I got you one _YI3R-m_QaQ-00985-00270313-00270540 camera that's gonna make him react right _YI3R-m_QaQ-00986-00270541-00270729 right yes sir _YI3R-m_QaQ-00987-00270730-00271188 what should I said here yes sir I you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00988-00271189-00271416 know I got share story with you that I _YI3R-m_QaQ-00989-00271417-00271578 probably should Willie's hope you get _YI3R-m_QaQ-00990-00271579-00271884 hit delete this never but I had a friend _YI3R-m_QaQ-00991-00271885-00272118 call me up relative call me up and say _YI3R-m_QaQ-00992-00272119-00272735 hey in a situation here you I know but _YI3R-m_QaQ-00993-00272736-00272982 but let me come and get your car and you _YI3R-m_QaQ-00994-00272983-00273138 know save your hundred bucks on the tow _YI3R-m_QaQ-00995-00273139-00273429 fee and no let's go stuff right so I go _YI3R-m_QaQ-00996-00273430-00273678 to the scene and drive out identify _YI3R-m_QaQ-00997-00273679-00273840 myself and say to the officer hey I'm _YI3R-m_QaQ-00998-00273841-00274313 just here to help my family member mm um _YI3R-m_QaQ-00999-00274314-00274677 you know my wife together will take the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01000-00274678-00275028 car home you guys matter of fact he's _YI3R-m_QaQ-01001-00275029-00275259 already gone already got him and the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01002-00275260-00275571 officer the officer _YI3R-m_QaQ-01003-00275572-00275743 say no _YI3R-m_QaQ-01004-00275744-00275865 now you're taking the car I'm towing _YI3R-m_QaQ-01005-00275866-00276669 what I'm trying to rationalize why yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-01006-00276670-00277312 you know let us take the car home and no _YI3R-m_QaQ-01007-00277313-00277687 I said okay let me speak to the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01008-00277688-00277768 lieutenant _YI3R-m_QaQ-01009-00277769-00278127 speak to supervisor right good mm-hmm a _YI3R-m_QaQ-01010-00278128-00278359 kid you know this officer is the white _YI3R-m_QaQ-01011-00278360-00278629 officer yeah when he back up I got a _YI3R-m_QaQ-01012-00278630-00278911 hostile I kid you not _YI3R-m_QaQ-01013-00278912-00279292 so so I I heard it and I died you think _YI3R-m_QaQ-01014-00279293-00279505 I heard that but when it supervisor _YI3R-m_QaQ-01015-00279506-00279922 pulled up I was already seated I was _YI3R-m_QaQ-01016-00279923-00280374 sitting on the curb wait just waiting _YI3R-m_QaQ-01017-00280375-00280618 supervisor pulled up these experience _YI3R-m_QaQ-01018-00280619-00280735 though experience taught me this right _YI3R-m_QaQ-01019-00280736-00281080 now I'm on the other side now yeah okay _YI3R-m_QaQ-01020-00281081-00281446 when the other side supervisor cut _YI3R-m_QaQ-01021-00281447-00281782 what's up goes to the officer first now _YI3R-m_QaQ-01022-00281783-00282103 I know that wasn't me _YI3R-m_QaQ-01023-00282104-00282370 I would have ran to the supervisor and _YI3R-m_QaQ-01024-00282371-00282568 said I'm the one who called for you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01025-00282569-00282895 mm-hmm hey talk to me first that would _YI3R-m_QaQ-01026-00282896-00283210 have appeared have been hostile yeah so _YI3R-m_QaQ-01027-00283211-00283540 I waited my turn I know I'm pitching the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01028-00283541-00283696 supervisor boy so where's the hostile _YI3R-m_QaQ-01029-00283697-00283867 guy oh he's the big quiet guy sitting _YI3R-m_QaQ-01030-00283868-00284007 over in the corner _YI3R-m_QaQ-01031-00284008-00284215 lieutenant watch over who's gonna watch _YI3R-m_QaQ-01032-00284216-00284518 all that I say his hand yeah yep the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01033-00284519-00284974 same yeah I tell them my experience not _YI3R-m_QaQ-01034-00284975-00285276 asking for professional courtesy hmm I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01035-00285277-00285484 tell him who I am tell him where I'm _YI3R-m_QaQ-01036-00285485-00285769 retired from and I explained he says hey _YI3R-m_QaQ-01037-00285770-00286314 the owner of the vehicle is here _YI3R-m_QaQ-01038-00286315-00286683 the drivers gone _YI3R-m_QaQ-01039-00286684-00286902 I'll Drive that car home because if the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01040-00286903-00287172 owner is giving me the permission mm-hmm _YI3R-m_QaQ-01041-00287173-00287397 didn't take the supervisor it was all so _YI3R-m_QaQ-01042-00287398-00287565 why didn't a chemist been taking 30 _YI3R-m_QaQ-01043-00287566-00287840 seconds to say _YI3R-m_QaQ-01044-00287841-00288167 yo bredda the average insisted why can't _YI3R-m_QaQ-01045-00288168-00288620 he take her car home yeah where the keys _YI3R-m_QaQ-01046-00288621-00288812 took the keys from the officer and _YI3R-m_QaQ-01047-00288813-00288998 handed them right to me and said sorry _YI3R-m_QaQ-01048-00288999-00289175 have a good night that cop gets in the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01049-00289176-00289346 car speeds off ticket booked on top of _YI3R-m_QaQ-01050-00289347-00290020 the car goes flying away if I wasn't _YI3R-m_QaQ-01051-00290021-00290417 prepared to deal with that the results _YI3R-m_QaQ-01052-00290418-00290609 would have been different I would have _YI3R-m_QaQ-01053-00290610-00290762 responded differently I would have been _YI3R-m_QaQ-01054-00290763-00291068 upset that I know was right yeah so I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01055-00291069-00291326 was able to teach myself how to respond _YI3R-m_QaQ-01056-00291327-00291526 at that moment but I can tell you now _YI3R-m_QaQ-01057-00291527-00291769 nobody else would they would have said _YI3R-m_QaQ-01058-00291770-00292001 you're making a really bad mistake cop _YI3R-m_QaQ-01059-00292002-00292241 and would have been upset and upset and _YI3R-m_QaQ-01060-00292242-00292382 would've verbalize how upset they were _YI3R-m_QaQ-01061-00292383-00292601 and then the cowbird says this guy's _YI3R-m_QaQ-01062-00292602-00292889 disorderly this guy's you know he's it _YI3R-m_QaQ-01063-00292890-00293156 in my face he's aggressive mm-hmm but _YI3R-m_QaQ-01064-00293157-00293402 who was right and who was wrong yeah so _YI3R-m_QaQ-01065-00293403-00293903 so what I teach my is you got to humble _YI3R-m_QaQ-01066-00293904-00294278 yourself you got a hold on yourself and _YI3R-m_QaQ-01067-00294279-00294677 fight another day and my time there was _YI3R-m_QaQ-01068-00294678-00294854 not to fight right there for those keys _YI3R-m_QaQ-01069-00294855-00295100 whisper I'll speak to the supervisor _YI3R-m_QaQ-01070-00295101-00295406 gets it and I'm not gonna be this a _YI3R-m_QaQ-01071-00295407-00295568 great person that you just told him I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01072-00295569-00295877 was on the air yeah all the police cars _YI3R-m_QaQ-01073-00295878-00296111 came around I was like back off this is _YI3R-m_QaQ-01074-00296112-00296654 funny but that's you know that's that's _YI3R-m_QaQ-01075-00296655-00296846 training that the officer that I hope he _YI3R-m_QaQ-01076-00296847-00296990 got you know what I said to the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01077-00296991-00297508 supervisor this is silly no complaint _YI3R-m_QaQ-01078-00297509-00297876 just watch his camera you just reveal _YI3R-m_QaQ-01079-00297877-00298309 its business video of our encounter and _YI3R-m_QaQ-01080-00298310-00298663 then respond the way you guys like talk _YI3R-m_QaQ-01081-00298664-00298846 to him the way I don't need to follow up _YI3R-m_QaQ-01082-00298847-00299092 and I don't know whatever happened but I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01083-00299093-00299281 can assure you he went back and said let _YI3R-m_QaQ-01084-00299282-00299494 me watch this why are you talking to the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01085-00299495-00299728 citizen like this right lucky the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01086-00299729-00299878 citizen then get upset because that's _YI3R-m_QaQ-01087-00299879-00299935 what we do _YI3R-m_QaQ-01088-00299936-00300076 honestly that's what we do we get upset _YI3R-m_QaQ-01089-00300077-00300280 you just respected me that's something _YI3R-m_QaQ-01090-00300281-00300501 that we all should learn about biking _YI3R-m_QaQ-01091-00300502-00300645 [Music] _YI3R-m_QaQ-01092-00300646-00300838 don't mess with my children _YI3R-m_QaQ-01093-00300839-00301141 yeah and don't disrespect me yeah and _YI3R-m_QaQ-01094-00301142-00301486 that goes back it goes back to slavery _YI3R-m_QaQ-01095-00301487-00301804 and being free and then you know now we _YI3R-m_QaQ-01096-00301805-00301987 were able to get respected and the don't _YI3R-m_QaQ-01097-00301988-00302284 disrespect me don't call me boy hmm _YI3R-m_QaQ-01098-00302285-00302556 it all comes back from sport to today _YI3R-m_QaQ-01099-00302557-00302764 when I walk up to him just don't _YI3R-m_QaQ-01100-00302765-00303013 disrespect me and often we are _YI3R-m_QaQ-01101-00303014-00303253 disrespecting our citizens and that's _YI3R-m_QaQ-01102-00303254-00303783 why black people it's a lot it's a lot _YI3R-m_QaQ-01103-00303784-00304132 that's just it's just amazing and I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01104-00304133-00304507 think and this this why this is why I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01105-00304508-00304753 felt like yes I absolutely have to have _YI3R-m_QaQ-01106-00304754-00304996 Walter of the podcasts because this is a _YI3R-m_QaQ-01107-00304997-00305311 perspective that people don't hear they _YI3R-m_QaQ-01108-00305312-00305539 don't they all they hear is the headline _YI3R-m_QaQ-01109-00305540-00305857 you know black man killed by white _YI3R-m_QaQ-01110-00305858-00306214 police officer and it's like well that _YI3R-m_QaQ-01111-00306215-00306442 doesn't help right I mean obviously I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01112-00306443-00306568 mean that's what happened but it doesn't _YI3R-m_QaQ-01113-00306569-00306685 help and _YI3R-m_QaQ-01114-00306686-00306976 but what you're sharing is the reason _YI3R-m_QaQ-01115-00306977-00307369 why the reason why you know Rashard _YI3R-m_QaQ-01116-00307370-00307603 may have gotten may have escalated is _YI3R-m_QaQ-01117-00307604-00307888 because there is there's there's _YI3R-m_QaQ-01118-00307889-00308257 something deep-seated mm-hmm in him _YI3R-m_QaQ-01119-00308258-00308515 and not just in him but in his culture _YI3R-m_QaQ-01120-00308516-00308944 in his people in his family that that _YI3R-m_QaQ-01121-00308945-00309400 written that demands respect that if you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01122-00309401-00309616 speak that language if you speak the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01123-00309617-00309805 language of respect man you're just _YI3R-m_QaQ-01124-00309806-00310189 gonna go so much further you know just _YI3R-m_QaQ-01125-00310190-00310342 to mention imagine we're so I sitting _YI3R-m_QaQ-01126-00310343-00310537 there going oh you're not gonna put your _YI3R-m_QaQ-01127-00310538-00310705 knee on my neck I'm not _YI3R-m_QaQ-01128-00310706-00310996 this happened right right this is she's _YI3R-m_QaQ-01129-00310997-00311149 get rid of happened to me I see four or _YI3R-m_QaQ-01130-00311150-00311413 five cops it's gonna be me I'm gonna die _YI3R-m_QaQ-01131-00311414-00311863 I gotta go yeah yeah are you kidding _YI3R-m_QaQ-01132-00311864-00312025 that's what what an incredible what an _YI3R-m_QaQ-01133-00312026-00312199 incredible story thank you no thank you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01134-00312200-00312483 for sharing that _YI3R-m_QaQ-01135-00312484-00312754 so I want I want to talk a little bit I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01136-00312755-00312895 want to kind of shift it a little bit _YI3R-m_QaQ-01137-00312896-00313102 and thank you for sharing about what you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01138-00313103-00313303 what you do with with your children as _YI3R-m_QaQ-01139-00313304-00313669 well you know so you're you're no _YI3R-m_QaQ-01140-00313670-00314299 stranger to to racism right you're no _YI3R-m_QaQ-01141-00314300-00314872 stranger to norms in indifferent in the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01142-00314873-00315109 police in in police work you know where _YI3R-m_QaQ-01143-00315110-00315283 you know where you well this is just _YI3R-m_QaQ-01144-00315284-00315445 what we do these are the populations _YI3R-m_QaQ-01145-00315446-00315703 that we police and monitor you know you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01146-00315704-00315877 you're no you're no stranger to these _YI3R-m_QaQ-01147-00315878-00316453 things where where you were able to keep _YI3R-m_QaQ-01148-00316454-00316687 your head you know for I mean for _YI3R-m_QaQ-01149-00316688-00316861 decades right you were able to keep your _YI3R-m_QaQ-01150-00316862-00317368 head about you and how I've known you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01151-00317369-00317632 for a very long time how is it that you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01152-00317633-00318100 have not become resentful because by all _YI3R-m_QaQ-01153-00318101-00318784 rights you you should be I honestly I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01154-00318785-00319384 say it's my faith is my belief good wins _YI3R-m_QaQ-01155-00319385-00319899 all the time all all the time yeah and I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01156-00319900-00320193 there's just _YI3R-m_QaQ-01157-00320194-00320403 you just you just gotta stay positive _YI3R-m_QaQ-01158-00320404-00320757 you know you have to you have to say no _YI3R-m_QaQ-01159-00320758-00320940 matter what they might take my kids _YI3R-m_QaQ-01160-00320941-00321054 would tease me sometimes because though _YI3R-m_QaQ-01161-00321055-00321246 things will be crashing and I'll be like _YI3R-m_QaQ-01162-00321247-00321417 let's look at the bright side _YI3R-m_QaQ-01163-00321418-00321813 yeah you really have to say we wouldn't _YI3R-m_QaQ-01164-00321814-00322065 be here if we didn't go there right you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01165-00322066-00322266 got it you got a look at the bright side _YI3R-m_QaQ-01166-00322267-00322584 if you if you stay in the negative it's _YI3R-m_QaQ-01167-00322585-00322749 just good you'll become part of the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01168-00322750-00323175 problem the problem so just staying _YI3R-m_QaQ-01169-00323176-00323370 positive and I you know it's funny I say _YI3R-m_QaQ-01170-00323371-00323565 this all the time and I actually found _YI3R-m_QaQ-01171-00323566-00323844 myself saying it to a couple police _YI3R-m_QaQ-01172-00323845-00324339 officers since this too will pass _YI3R-m_QaQ-01173-00324340-00324639 yeah this too will pass _YI3R-m_QaQ-01174-00324640-00324966 so yeah it's you know just just just _YI3R-m_QaQ-01175-00324967-00325301 believe that you'll get better yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-01176-00325302-00325764 better what do you think it will take _YI3R-m_QaQ-01177-00325765-00326280 for us to become enlightened and aware _YI3R-m_QaQ-01178-00326281-00326637 of of racial issues in our society to _YI3R-m_QaQ-01179-00326638-00326985 become woke if you will well it's what _YI3R-m_QaQ-01180-00326986-00327440 we're doing now honestly yeah I I know _YI3R-m_QaQ-01181-00327441-00327725 our president doesn't like it but _YI3R-m_QaQ-01182-00327726-00328116 standing up and collectively sharing _YI3R-m_QaQ-01183-00328117-00328518 your voice by protest yeah it's truly _YI3R-m_QaQ-01184-00328519-00329118 opening the eyes of many of many mark _YI3R-m_QaQ-01185-00329119-00329418 not even myself saw anything wrong with _YI3R-m_QaQ-01186-00329419-00329610 you know Theo Roosevelt on a horse and _YI3R-m_QaQ-01187-00329611-00329937 I'm like yeah I'm here yeah five years _YI3R-m_QaQ-01188-00329938-00330096 ago I seen that wrong with it Abraham _YI3R-m_QaQ-01189-00330097-00330255 Lincoln in the slave and you don't you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01190-00330256-00330399 in it you're in it you're in the forest _YI3R-m_QaQ-01191-00330400-00330693 you know right right you realize what _YI3R-m_QaQ-01192-00330694-00330957 are we doing how are we locking _YI3R-m_QaQ-01193-00330958-00331203 ourselves to that time why is that _YI3R-m_QaQ-01194-00331204-00331554 statute so important right okay maybe it _YI3R-m_QaQ-01195-00331555-00331758 was important when you made it but a _YI3R-m_QaQ-01196-00331759-00332007 year later is outdated a kid is no _YI3R-m_QaQ-01197-00332008-00332178 longer on his knees man he stand it up _YI3R-m_QaQ-01198-00332179-00332388 he's probably 65 you know looking at the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01199-00332389-00332610 president if in his eyes shaking his _YI3R-m_QaQ-01200-00332611-00332823 hand that's what we want right we don't _YI3R-m_QaQ-01201-00332824-00333276 want to be remembered for being on you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01202-00333277-00333335 know _YI3R-m_QaQ-01203-00333336-00333695 yeah things we don't see we're doing _YI3R-m_QaQ-01204-00333696-00333854 things right now that 10 years from now _YI3R-m_QaQ-01205-00333855-00334145 Emily I can't believe that yeah they're _YI3R-m_QaQ-01206-00334146-00334430 on the zoom call right so so _YI3R-m_QaQ-01207-00334431-00334866 unacceptable but back then that was _YI3R-m_QaQ-01208-00334867-00335169 wrong right right we got a thing we got _YI3R-m_QaQ-01209-00335170-00335321 to start before thinking we really gotta _YI3R-m_QaQ-01210-00335322-00335637 start thinking ahead yeah really do what _YI3R-m_QaQ-01211-00335638-00335825 do you think of movements like black _YI3R-m_QaQ-01212-00335826-00336878 lives matter necessary I really do but _YI3R-m_QaQ-01213-00336879-00337079 but that's because it's today and I'm _YI3R-m_QaQ-01214-00337080-00337253 seeing I'm seeing change and they're _YI3R-m_QaQ-01215-00337254-00337669 teaching me math class matter I listen _YI3R-m_QaQ-01216-00337670-00337809 and I saw some I would have black last _YI3R-m_QaQ-01217-00337810-00338135 night radical yeah and now it's like Oh _YI3R-m_QaQ-01218-00338136-00338446 making change yeah damn I'll put that _YI3R-m_QaQ-01219-00338447-00339180 out on my tags because because they've _YI3R-m_QaQ-01220-00339181-00339445 really have they overshot it _YI3R-m_QaQ-01221-00339446-00340069 yeah yeah they overshot right but but _YI3R-m_QaQ-01222-00340070-00340264 they really brought to light a lot of _YI3R-m_QaQ-01223-00340265-00340500 things that's what it takes if you aim _YI3R-m_QaQ-01224-00340501-00340875 for the target you miss it you don't _YI3R-m_QaQ-01225-00340876-00341055 lead to low yeah yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-01226-00341056-00341518 they overshot what blacklivesmatter a _YI3R-m_QaQ-01227-00341519-00341791 year ago when they were tagging DC _YI3R-m_QaQ-01228-00341792-00341950 blacklivesmatter everywhere you see _YI3R-m_QaQ-01229-00341951-00342121 spray painted with not matter _YI3R-m_QaQ-01230-00342122-00342442 yeah it was too much but they were _YI3R-m_QaQ-01231-00342443-00342769 overshooting it now it's landing right _YI3R-m_QaQ-01232-00342770-00342951 in the area where it needs to be it's _YI3R-m_QaQ-01233-00342952-00343237 catching the attention of the mayor like _YI3R-m_QaQ-01234-00343238-00343476 laughing hi Boulevard or you know you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01235-00343477-00343725 know the street she renamed you know and _YI3R-m_QaQ-01236-00343726-00344003 I'm praying it's freaking awesome yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-01237-00344004-00344409 you know it's awesome it's a old _YI3R-m_QaQ-01238-00344410-00344590 teaching I mean there's there's there's _YI3R-m_QaQ-01239-00344591-00344716 more than one way to take a tree down _YI3R-m_QaQ-01240-00344717-00344872 you got a tree here and everybody's _YI3R-m_QaQ-01241-00344873-00345022 trying to push it once you try to pull _YI3R-m_QaQ-01242-00345023-00345814 that thing down right yeah you get the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01243-00345815-00346024 same result and that's what she's doing _YI3R-m_QaQ-01244-00346025-00346230 she's poor yeah she's joining she's _YI3R-m_QaQ-01245-00346231-00346441 saying hey let's us let's look at what _YI3R-m_QaQ-01246-00346442-00346843 you're saying and that to me is where we _YI3R-m_QaQ-01247-00346844-00347092 need to be yeah yeah I want to ask you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01248-00347093-00347437 kind of a big question how do we as a _YI3R-m_QaQ-01249-00347438-00348260 society and racism _YI3R-m_QaQ-01250-00348261-00348799 it's not gonna I I'm a very positive _YI3R-m_QaQ-01251-00348800-00349044 person but one thing I can tell you I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01252-00349045-00349431 just don't see it years in years from _YI3R-m_QaQ-01253-00349432-00349628 now it'll be forgotten _YI3R-m_QaQ-01254-00349629-00349977 did we forgotten right years in newsroom _YI3R-m_QaQ-01255-00349978-00350235 but there are a lot of people who were _YI3R-m_QaQ-01256-00350236-00350457 taught to hate us hmm _YI3R-m_QaQ-01257-00350458-00350794 we're taught to hate right yeah I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01258-00350795-00351024 remember what my father taught me my son _YI3R-m_QaQ-01259-00351025-00351214 remembers what I taught him he'll teach _YI3R-m_QaQ-01260-00351215-00351763 his son and there's a large group of _YI3R-m_QaQ-01261-00351764-00352024 people for doing the same thing but _YI3R-m_QaQ-01262-00352025-00352356 they're teaching hate mm-hmm you can't _YI3R-m_QaQ-01263-00352357-00352647 you cannot _YI3R-m_QaQ-01264-00352648-00352907 change is it's it's extremely difficult _YI3R-m_QaQ-01265-00352908-00353430 yeah so so through time perhaps it'll be _YI3R-m_QaQ-01266-00353431-00353691 done yeah but as long as we look _YI3R-m_QaQ-01267-00353692-00353834 different mm-hmm _YI3R-m_QaQ-01268-00353835-00354078 we'll be treated differently that's _YI3R-m_QaQ-01269-00354079-00354458 that's the way it is now no but you got _YI3R-m_QaQ-01270-00354459-00354682 to do it's just simply you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-01271-00354683-00354881 represent who you are _YI3R-m_QaQ-01272-00354882-00355194 yeah and people will treat you that's _YI3R-m_QaQ-01273-00355195-00355446 who you are yeah that's it _YI3R-m_QaQ-01274-00355447-00355647 that's it don't don't don't give them _YI3R-m_QaQ-01275-00355648-00356009 any don't give them don't give them _YI3R-m_QaQ-01276-00356010-00356598 power over you mmm stand tall command _YI3R-m_QaQ-01277-00356599-00356853 respect there's a demand and say you're _YI3R-m_QaQ-01278-00356854-00357083 gonna respect me they're gonna respect _YI3R-m_QaQ-01279-00357084-00357225 you because of the way you were treating _YI3R-m_QaQ-01280-00357226-00357552 them yeah and then we'll well and then _YI3R-m_QaQ-01281-00357553-00357612 we'll make it _YI3R-m_QaQ-01282-00357613-00357995 but will it ever go away in this country _YI3R-m_QaQ-01283-00357996-00358232 no because we have a different _YI3R-m_QaQ-01284-00358233-00358406 background you can't change history _YI3R-m_QaQ-01285-00358407-00358745 right you can't change what happened _YI3R-m_QaQ-01286-00358746-00359130 yeah in in other countries you keep you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01287-00359131-00359285 do it gets better and better because _YI3R-m_QaQ-01288-00359286-00359718 everybody's from there everybody has the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01289-00359719-00360233 same story yeah whether even even even _YI3R-m_QaQ-01290-00360234-00360663 the ones whose skin color is darker you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01291-00360664-00360981 still had the same story you know you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01292-00360982-00361173 talk right yeah look at you look at _YI3R-m_QaQ-01293-00361174-00361338 Central America South America right in _YI3R-m_QaQ-01294-00361339-00361542 within their communities they think they _YI3R-m_QaQ-01295-00361543-00361722 they think they have the same issue we _YI3R-m_QaQ-01296-00361723-00361875 have like people that are in that are _YI3R-m_QaQ-01297-00361876-00362294 from our country that are from you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-01298-00362295-00362757 where they slaves at one time no oh no _YI3R-m_QaQ-01299-00362758-00363045 we didn't do that to him no they just _YI3R-m_QaQ-01300-00363046-00363374 doctor it ain't because we're dark I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01301-00363375-00363714 mean a lot of you want to be dark any _YI3R-m_QaQ-01302-00363715-00363903 because we're dark it's because of the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01303-00363904-00364484 history yeah yeah and until they took we _YI3R-m_QaQ-01304-00364485-00364650 figure that out you know they're always _YI3R-m_QaQ-01305-00364651-00364791 gonna you're gonna be treated _YI3R-m_QaQ-01306-00364792-00364941 differently because of the history _YI3R-m_QaQ-01307-00364942-00365274 history can't go away I can't it can't _YI3R-m_QaQ-01308-00365275-00365582 go away so we're gonna be there hundred _YI3R-m_QaQ-01309-00365583-00365796 years from now somebody will say you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01310-00365797-00365933 said it because I'm black did you you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01311-00365934-00366129 know it's you gotta check it yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-01312-00366130-00366417 because of my ancestors what did that _YI3R-m_QaQ-01313-00366418-00366782 comment mean hmm so I always be there _YI3R-m_QaQ-01314-00366783-00367200 unfortunately yeah so what I want to _YI3R-m_QaQ-01315-00367201-00367452 shift the conversation a little bit to _YI3R-m_QaQ-01316-00367453-00367677 it's a present day and and what you're _YI3R-m_QaQ-01317-00367678-00367974 doing today you've made the transition _YI3R-m_QaQ-01318-00367975-00368256 to security and and you've made it a _YI3R-m_QaQ-01319-00368257-00368793 very successful career doing that so you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01320-00368794-00369089 know since since leaving public service _YI3R-m_QaQ-01321-00369090-00369458 you know now you're a security expert in _YI3R-m_QaQ-01322-00369459-00369627 recent days some of the properties that _YI3R-m_QaQ-01323-00369628-00369780 you protect have actually been ground _YI3R-m_QaQ-01324-00369781-00369935 zero for some of the protests _YI3R-m_QaQ-01325-00369936-00370190 riots and and and some of the violets _YI3R-m_QaQ-01326-00370191-00370577 I'm curious to know how do you how do _YI3R-m_QaQ-01327-00370578-00371262 you lead in a time of crisis well you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01328-00371263-00371412 know you take all the tools you've _YI3R-m_QaQ-01329-00371413-00371691 learned over the years of critical _YI3R-m_QaQ-01330-00371692-00371975 thinking of organizing right and making _YI3R-m_QaQ-01331-00371976-00372125 the best decision putting things in _YI3R-m_QaQ-01332-00372126-00372366 place not waiting for them to come to _YI3R-m_QaQ-01333-00372367-00372608 you it's going to them right you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-01334-00372609-00372983 but I don't I don't wait until you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-01335-00372984-00373154 that the building has been vandalized _YI3R-m_QaQ-01336-00373155-00373430 and crashed I got to get in front of it _YI3R-m_QaQ-01337-00373431-00373614 yeah I gotta put some spotters on the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01338-00373615-00373812 roof you know I got to put some boards _YI3R-m_QaQ-01339-00373813-00374180 up I got to be proactive right and be _YI3R-m_QaQ-01340-00374181-00374375 ready for this it's you know all the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01341-00374376-00374643 signs are there that we're in you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-01342-00374644-00374906 we're on Ground Zero we're here right so _YI3R-m_QaQ-01343-00374907-00375203 just just my experience from policing _YI3R-m_QaQ-01344-00375204-00375649 thank goodness yeah and from managing _YI3R-m_QaQ-01345-00375650-00375916 make the best decision mm-hmm you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-01346-00375917-00376259 be be manage it be in front of it _YI3R-m_QaQ-01347-00376260-00376506 don't don't wait until it's you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-01348-00376507-00376731 understanding broken window theory _YI3R-m_QaQ-01349-00376732-00376969 understanding why it's so important you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01350-00376970-00377341 know to attack that graffiti I mean I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01351-00377342-00377545 only got hit last night looking feet and _YI3R-m_QaQ-01352-00377546-00377625 I'm already on it _YI3R-m_QaQ-01353-00377626-00377740 I'm not waiting to go back to work _YI3R-m_QaQ-01354-00377741-00377938 Monday morning to get with my facilities _YI3R-m_QaQ-01355-00377939-00378145 people to say hey I need this off you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01356-00378146-00378370 know hey I'm like hey right now you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-01357-00378371-00378544 Saturday morning we got tagged last _YI3R-m_QaQ-01358-00378545-00378704 night can we get a crew there today _YI3R-m_QaQ-01359-00378705-00378892 because I don't want them to come back _YI3R-m_QaQ-01360-00378893-00379107 and go oh this is a good place to tag me _YI3R-m_QaQ-01361-00379108-00379281 tag on top of his tag and I don't like _YI3R-m_QaQ-01362-00379282-00379417 black lives matter so I'm gonna cross it _YI3R-m_QaQ-01363-00379418-00379725 I'm like no no let's get on let's get on _YI3R-m_QaQ-01364-00379726-00380098 and you got a care you got a kid one one _YI3R-m_QaQ-01365-00380099-00380781 thing I treat my security career path _YI3R-m_QaQ-01366-00380782-00381177 just like I treated my mom it was a _YI3R-m_QaQ-01367-00381178-00381558 career path another job right yeah it _YI3R-m_QaQ-01368-00381559-00381772 was I'm all-in _YI3R-m_QaQ-01369-00381773-00382018 I'm all-in I say to my boss all the time _YI3R-m_QaQ-01370-00382019-00382246 you know they'll say oh I know it's late _YI3R-m_QaQ-01371-00382247-00382479 well can we get this project I said boss _YI3R-m_QaQ-01372-00382480-00382816 I'm all-in you know it's I don't my _YI3R-m_QaQ-01373-00382817-00383038 clock don't stop what's next give them _YI3R-m_QaQ-01374-00383039-00383274 gift of that ring and it's not because I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01375-00383275-00383427 want to be better than the next guy and _YI3R-m_QaQ-01376-00383428-00383622 I don't want to buy you to take my job _YI3R-m_QaQ-01377-00383623-00383935 it's Who I am _YI3R-m_QaQ-01378-00383936-00384214 I'm all-in I want I want it to be nice I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01379-00384215-00384442 wanted to be right you look at this _YI3R-m_QaQ-01380-00384443-00384586 property when you look at hey who's your _YI3R-m_QaQ-01381-00384587-00384864 security provider who's your manager I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01382-00384865-00385111 don't want them to say I think this guy _YI3R-m_QaQ-01383-00385112-00385372 is a retired copy that you know what _YI3R-m_QaQ-01384-00385373-00385594 he's doing then I'd rather be fired I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01385-00385595-00385855 want them to say hey this guy I got it _YI3R-m_QaQ-01386-00385856-00386215 he cares he said he's in we caught you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01387-00386216-00386499 know plugged in he's freaking plugged in _YI3R-m_QaQ-01388-00386500-00386809 never like what happened and then _YI3R-m_QaQ-01389-00386810-00387094 balancing yeah you know Paul Union and _YI3R-m_QaQ-01390-00387095-00387385 then well yeah right right you got a _YI3R-m_QaQ-01391-00387386-00388315 stay yeah yeah and and you have a way of _YI3R-m_QaQ-01392-00388316-00388675 balancing that personally in a way that _YI3R-m_QaQ-01393-00388676-00388861 I I don't know that I've ever really _YI3R-m_QaQ-01394-00388862-00389125 seen that in anybody else how do you go _YI3R-m_QaQ-01395-00389126-00389608 from managing crisis on on one end of _YI3R-m_QaQ-01396-00389609-00389971 the spectrum to being completely _YI3R-m_QaQ-01397-00389972-00390217 unplugged and being able to be present _YI3R-m_QaQ-01398-00390218-00390421 and enjoy your family on the other end _YI3R-m_QaQ-01399-00390422-00390556 of the spectrum how do you make that _YI3R-m_QaQ-01400-00390557-00391148 leap from from there to there you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-01401-00391149-00391553 one of my managers got from the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01402-00391554-00391752 recreation department didn't it didn't _YI3R-m_QaQ-01403-00391753-00391974 he didn't lay it out like this but this _YI3R-m_QaQ-01404-00391975-00392213 is one of the things he taught _YI3R-m_QaQ-01405-00392214-00392558 sports the reality all right sports what _YI3R-m_QaQ-01406-00392559-00392865 I do is it's like a a game when I go to _YI3R-m_QaQ-01407-00392866-00393390 work on in the game in I'm doing it _YI3R-m_QaQ-01408-00393391-00393642 whatever it is whether it's a hailstorm _YI3R-m_QaQ-01409-00393643-00394062 windstorm riots in the game yeah five _YI3R-m_QaQ-01410-00394063-00394379 o'clock bell rings _YI3R-m_QaQ-01411-00394380-00394754 game continues I just get to go sit on _YI3R-m_QaQ-01412-00394755-00395114 the bench and watch the game and catch _YI3R-m_QaQ-01413-00395115-00395435 my breath and relax but you know what _YI3R-m_QaQ-01414-00395436-00395714 I'm still part of that game but right _YI3R-m_QaQ-01415-00395715-00396023 now I'm at home on the bench sitting _YI3R-m_QaQ-01416-00396024-00396431 down but the game continues I think I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01417-00396432-00396977 think that take a football game and when _YI3R-m_QaQ-01418-00396978-00397118 the offense goes off the field _YI3R-m_QaQ-01419-00397119-00397310 you think me go into the locker room and _YI3R-m_QaQ-01420-00397311-00397583 go hey let's go get some drinks man no _YI3R-m_QaQ-01421-00397584-00397757 they go huddle up _YI3R-m_QaQ-01422-00397758-00398048 they relax they catch their breath and _YI3R-m_QaQ-01423-00398049-00398213 then they go somebody else's answers _YI3R-m_QaQ-01424-00398214-00398560 okay guys there's no any game still _YI3R-m_QaQ-01425-00398561-00398885 ready right so I take the time away from _YI3R-m_QaQ-01426-00398886-00399332 work when I get to the bench I am there _YI3R-m_QaQ-01427-00399333-00399629 I'm on the bench I'm with my family I'm _YI3R-m_QaQ-01428-00399630-00400115 doing my off-time but the game continues _YI3R-m_QaQ-01429-00400116-00400552 and I will not forget that yeah yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-01430-00400553-00400772 that's in it and if you don't if you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01431-00400773-00401084 don't if you don't that means tell you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01432-00401085-00401271 boy _YI3R-m_QaQ-01433-00401272-00401829 we need a day off you gotta take _YI3R-m_QaQ-01434-00401830-00402000 why are you here 12 hours of only pain _YI3R-m_QaQ-01435-00402001-00402154 you ate _YI3R-m_QaQ-01436-00402155-00402481 you're hurting me no just trying to get _YI3R-m_QaQ-01437-00402482-00402810 it done no you're hurting me see because _YI3R-m_QaQ-01438-00402811-00403053 I can't replace you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01439-00403054-00403275 I can't replace you and pay somebody _YI3R-m_QaQ-01440-00403276-00403509 eight and get twelve out of them yeah I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01441-00403510-00403962 need you to do your eight go home be _YI3R-m_QaQ-01442-00403963-00404259 ready for your next eight right yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-01443-00404260-00404523 yeah that's that's what we have to add _YI3R-m_QaQ-01444-00404524-00404841 managers is teach people is don't don't _YI3R-m_QaQ-01445-00404842-00405255 hurt me I would be hurting my boss if I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01446-00405256-00405444 came home wearing carrying this building _YI3R-m_QaQ-01447-00405445-00405747 I never left the job they said I came _YI3R-m_QaQ-01448-00405748-00405927 down I can't balance it I want to let _YI3R-m_QaQ-01449-00405928-00406182 the family go I'm hurting my family I'm _YI3R-m_QaQ-01450-00406183-00406554 hurting my boss right if you don't learn _YI3R-m_QaQ-01451-00406555-00406655 to balance it _YI3R-m_QaQ-01452-00406656-00406983 you're not effective you're really not _YI3R-m_QaQ-01453-00406984-00407283 doing anybody any justice you know so _YI3R-m_QaQ-01454-00407284-00407459 you have to you have to just commit to _YI3R-m_QaQ-01455-00407460-00407847 what does it take now I'm home now let's _YI3R-m_QaQ-01456-00407848-00408048 let's let's let's organize to be home _YI3R-m_QaQ-01457-00408049-00408315 whether than me one and make sure the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01458-00408316-00408543 job has my home number not just my cell _YI3R-m_QaQ-01459-00408544-00408870 phone number or my beeper right it's not _YI3R-m_QaQ-01460-00408871-00409095 enough guys call me if it gets thick _YI3R-m_QaQ-01461-00409096-00409365 call me and then you got to teach people _YI3R-m_QaQ-01462-00409366-00409626 don't call me because here's a guy _YI3R-m_QaQ-01463-00409627-00409776 walking out front that's when I first _YI3R-m_QaQ-01464-00409777-00409947 got when I first got there I came home _YI3R-m_QaQ-01465-00409947-00410210 it was like crazy like hey guys I'm home _YI3R-m_QaQ-01466-00410212-00410522 you know then you gotta educate them and _YI3R-m_QaQ-01467-00410523-00410757 teach them and train them of what's what _YI3R-m_QaQ-01468-00410758-00411045 what requires my attention right and you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01469-00411046-00411189 just can't you can't you gotta stay _YI3R-m_QaQ-01470-00411189-00411293 focus and then you get them home and _YI3R-m_QaQ-01471-00411295-00411501 relax appear to be totally unplugged _YI3R-m_QaQ-01472-00411502-00411643 because you got good people in place _YI3R-m_QaQ-01473-00411645-00412005 yeah so it appears to be a flood but I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01474-00412006-00412335 know I know I got a coach _YI3R-m_QaQ-01475-00412337-00412609 you know on on the field yeah that if I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01476-00412610-00412834 need to get involved I have confidence _YI3R-m_QaQ-01477-00412835-00413074 that they'll call me Lord of Westeros a _YI3R-m_QaQ-01478-00413075-00413382 well come back I need you and take a _YI3R-m_QaQ-01479-00413383-00413514 take advantage of every minute you can _YI3R-m_QaQ-01480-00413516-00413692 with your family because it's just _YI3R-m_QaQ-01481-00413693-00413917 nothing lasts forever just to truly take _YI3R-m_QaQ-01482-00413918-00414189 advantage of yeah that's that's _YI3R-m_QaQ-01483-00414191-00414375 beautiful that's beautiful _YI3R-m_QaQ-01484-00414376-00414702 what are you what are you hoping people _YI3R-m_QaQ-01485-00414703-00414976 right now I miss in this time what are _YI3R-m_QaQ-01486-00414977-00415279 you hoping they'll take away from this _YI3R-m_QaQ-01487-00415280-00415555 entire experience this entire pandemic _YI3R-m_QaQ-01488-00415556-00415774 this you know social renewal what what _YI3R-m_QaQ-01489-00415775-00415879 are you hoping people will take away _YI3R-m_QaQ-01490-00415880-00416818 from this that life is short and it _YI3R-m_QaQ-01491-00416818-00417193 changes it changes constantly big be be _YI3R-m_QaQ-01492-00417193-00417405 be ready to adapt you know be ready to _YI3R-m_QaQ-01493-00417406-00417607 to deal with the new norm and what's _YI3R-m_QaQ-01494-00417608-00417735 next yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-01495-00417737-00418018 and just enjoy what you have enjoy the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01496-00418018-00418734 moment ends yeah everything ends it if _YI3R-m_QaQ-01497-00418735-00418822 you could give _YI3R-m_QaQ-01498-00418823-00419059 piece of advice to the world what would _YI3R-m_QaQ-01499-00419060-00419426 it be _YI3R-m_QaQ-01500-00419427-00419763 seek the spirit God _YI3R-m_QaQ-01501-00419764-00420051 I let him speak to you I'm not preaching _YI3R-m_QaQ-01502-00420052-00420404 now I'm not this you know yeah but just _YI3R-m_QaQ-01503-00420405-00420888 open your heart to goodness and whatever _YI3R-m_QaQ-01504-00420889-00421097 you believe it all right whatever you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01505-00421099-00421430 believe _YI3R-m_QaQ-01506-00421431-00421709 seek that connection so you can have _YI3R-m_QaQ-01507-00421710-00422089 peace and be guided you know I I believe _YI3R-m_QaQ-01508-00422091-00422464 I'm fed I'm truly blessed I I know I am _YI3R-m_QaQ-01509-00422466-00422860 I'm truly given I'm whispered to you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01510-00422862-00423374 know I'm given direction and that's for _YI3R-m_QaQ-01511-00423375-00423608 me that's everything you know when I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01512-00423609-00423847 make a decision I'm comfortable that I'm _YI3R-m_QaQ-01513-00423849-00424024 making the best decision at that time _YI3R-m_QaQ-01514-00424025-00424352 yeah so so sinc goodness people honestly _YI3R-m_QaQ-01515-00424353-00424745 you know just seek goodness that's good _YI3R-m_QaQ-01516-00424746-00425003 how how do you intend to leave the world _YI3R-m_QaQ-01517-00425004-00425354 better than you found it just through _YI3R-m_QaQ-01518-00425355-00425537 example just you know just tell my story _YI3R-m_QaQ-01519-00425538-00425889 you know just just you know just _YI3R-m_QaQ-01520-00425889-00426207 is what it is right so many buddies said _YI3R-m_QaQ-01521-00426208-00426362 man when you die I'm gonna I can't wait _YI3R-m_QaQ-01522-00426363-00426662 to speak about just how you just did _YI3R-m_QaQ-01523-00426663-00426876 what you wanted to do and you didn't I'm _YI3R-m_QaQ-01524-00426877-00426968 gonna hurt nobody _YI3R-m_QaQ-01525-00426969-00427191 I just want to enjoy mine and then it's _YI3R-m_QaQ-01526-00427192-00427512 over I know I know that if I was given a _YI3R-m_QaQ-01527-00427513-00428583 beginning you can't do you live you die _YI3R-m_QaQ-01528-00428584-00428870 and that's that's just uh that's just _YI3R-m_QaQ-01529-00428871-00428952 the Bob _YI3R-m_QaQ-01530-00428953-00429177 yeah I really my father taught me a lot _YI3R-m_QaQ-01531-00429178-00429560 about just oh it is what it is make the _YI3R-m_QaQ-01532-00429561-00429849 best make the best of it so yeah I just _YI3R-m_QaQ-01533-00429850-00430056 just look back and say hey this guy did _YI3R-m_QaQ-01534-00430057-00430227 it if you wanted to do it it's the other _YI3R-m_QaQ-01535-00430228-00430476 thing about me Marcus if I want to do it _YI3R-m_QaQ-01536-00430477-00430764 I'm gonna do it if I command might not _YI3R-m_QaQ-01537-00430764-00430902 be gonna do it today if I can't afford _YI3R-m_QaQ-01538-00430903-00431280 it yeah too far you know I desire it's _YI3R-m_QaQ-01539-00431281-00431441 gonna come mmm _YI3R-m_QaQ-01540-00431442-00431672 no that's that's that's amazing that's _YI3R-m_QaQ-01541-00431673-00431987 amazing is there anything that I haven't _YI3R-m_QaQ-01542-00431988-00432300 asked you that you feel people need to _YI3R-m_QaQ-01543-00432301-00432575 know _YI3R-m_QaQ-01544-00432576-00433056 no I think you incredible I think I was _YI3R-m_QaQ-01545-00433057-00433463 counting as you asked 102 questions _YI3R-m_QaQ-01546-00433464-00434121 perfect no no no my guy just uh I said _YI3R-m_QaQ-01547-00434122-00434346 you know honestly I could say one last _YI3R-m_QaQ-01548-00434347-00434607 thing yeah I can say one last thing as I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01549-00434608-00434864 leave this world I would honestly say _YI3R-m_QaQ-01550-00434864-00435375 judge not I've said it since I was 20 _YI3R-m_QaQ-01551-00435376-00435825 problem judge yeah which is just judge _YI3R-m_QaQ-01552-00435826-00435978 not hmm _YI3R-m_QaQ-01553-00435979-00436170 we all do everybody's different you know _YI3R-m_QaQ-01554-00436171-00436380 you make your decisions I make mine yeah _YI3R-m_QaQ-01555-00436381-00436683 respect your decisions it's just such a _YI3R-m_QaQ-01556-00436684-00437508 judgmental world yeah Wow it's my gosh _YI3R-m_QaQ-01557-00437509-00437853 you know I had I have to say I had high _YI3R-m_QaQ-01558-00437854-00438051 expectations of this conversation and _YI3R-m_QaQ-01559-00438052-00438389 you you blew him away yeah opportunity _YI3R-m_QaQ-01560-00438391-00438539 thanks so much man I definitely _YI3R-m_QaQ-01561-00438541-00438710 appreciate it at the time you really did _YI3R-m_QaQ-01562-00438712-00438972 I feel like the perspective that you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01563-00438972-00439328 shared needs to be heard by everyone and _YI3R-m_QaQ-01564-00439329-00439629 I will do my utmost to make sure that it _YI3R-m_QaQ-01565-00439630-00439929 gets to as many people as I can where _YI3R-m_QaQ-01566-00439930-00440160 can people find you and connect with you _YI3R-m_QaQ-01567-00440160-00440328 online because I have a feeling that _YI3R-m_QaQ-01568-00440329-00440982 you're going to be busy I hope I'll give _YI3R-m_QaQ-01569-00440983-00441126 my department going why did you say that _YI3R-m_QaQ-01570-00441127-00441735 why did you say that I am I'm not big on _YI3R-m_QaQ-01571-00441735-00441963 social media but I stay connected right _YI3R-m_QaQ-01572-00441964-00442332 so I can so I can be in the know I do _YI3R-m_QaQ-01573-00442333-00442653 Twitter you know da do W one pad out one _YI3R-m_QaQ-01574-00442654-00442974 on Twitter yeah I do Instagram I like _YI3R-m_QaQ-01575-00442975-00443072 this you can just find me by my name _YI3R-m_QaQ-01576-00443074-00443621 Facebook I don't do Facebook a lot but I _YI3R-m_QaQ-01577-00443622-00443895 don't I you know I got into tweeting _YI3R-m_QaQ-01578-00443896-00444084 because I thought it was cool and then _YI3R-m_QaQ-01579-00444085-00444231 somebody smacked me on Twitter and ice _YI3R-m_QaQ-01580-00444232-00444477 like I don't like that because they want _YI3R-m_QaQ-01581-00444478-00444639 to say you know I'm just I'm just trying _YI3R-m_QaQ-01582-00444639-00444858 to be the nice guy _YI3R-m_QaQ-01583-00444859-00445239 so but you know I'm out there oh come on _YI3R-m_QaQ-01584-00445239-00445418 sounds good sounds good _YI3R-m_QaQ-01585-00445420-00445682 Walter thank you so much it was a _YI3R-m_QaQ-01586-00445683-00446007 pleasure a privilege and an honor to _YI3R-m_QaQ-01587-00446008-00446187 have you on on the podcast today thank _YI3R-m_QaQ-01588-00446188-00446525 you so much man thank you so much _YI3R-m_QaQ-01589-00446526-00447339 jeezum _YI3R-m_QaQ-01590-00447341-00447547 you _aRTccPo4Bg-00000-00000304-00000415 uh good afternoon _aRTccPo4Bg-00001-00000416-00000607 uh ladies and gentlemen welcome to the _aRTccPo4Bg-00002-00000608-00000847 theater at australia's parliament house _aRTccPo4Bg-00003-00000848-00001007 how we meet here today of course where _aRTccPo4Bg-00004-00001008-00001166 people have met for thousands of years _aRTccPo4Bg-00005-00001167-00001215 so _aRTccPo4Bg-00006-00001216-00001391 before we begin i'd like to acknowledge _aRTccPo4Bg-00007-00001392-00001614 the nuna wool and nambri peoples who are _aRTccPo4Bg-00008-00001616-00001782 the traditional custodians of _aRTccPo4Bg-00009-00001784-00001982 the canva area and pay respect to their _aRTccPo4Bg-00010-00001984-00002239 elders past and present _aRTccPo4Bg-00011-00002240-00002479 before we delve into mata's historical _aRTccPo4Bg-00012-00002480-00002663 today can i do something very modern and _aRTccPo4Bg-00013-00002664-00002710 just _aRTccPo4Bg-00014-00002711-00002934 ask you to make sure your mobile phones _aRTccPo4Bg-00015-00002935-00003023 are turned _aRTccPo4Bg-00016-00003024-00003295 to silent or switched off that'd be very _aRTccPo4Bg-00017-00003296-00003367 useful _aRTccPo4Bg-00018-00003368-00003551 um something else that's very modern is _aRTccPo4Bg-00019-00003552-00003767 that we're live streaming this today _aRTccPo4Bg-00020-00003768-00003895 which apparently means _aRTccPo4Bg-00021-00003896-00004103 people out there can see what's going on _aRTccPo4Bg-00022-00004104-00004263 in here on the internets _aRTccPo4Bg-00023-00004264-00004631 so so welcome today's lecture _aRTccPo4Bg-00024-00004632-00004847 in the senate occasional lecture series _aRTccPo4Bg-00025-00004848-00005118 is aaron pegram a senior historian _aRTccPo4Bg-00026-00005119-00005351 in the military history section at _aRTccPo4Bg-00027-00005352-00005422 australia's _aRTccPo4Bg-00028-00005423-00005654 the australian war memorial aaron has _aRTccPo4Bg-00029-00005655-00005863 published extensively on the first world _aRTccPo4Bg-00030-00005864-00005918 war _aRTccPo4Bg-00031-00005919-00006079 he's a historical guide for the war _aRTccPo4Bg-00032-00006080-00006238 memorial's battle front _aRTccPo4Bg-00033-00006239-00006446 tour battlefield wars to the western _aRTccPo4Bg-00034-00006447-00006542 front _aRTccPo4Bg-00035-00006543-00006742 and was recently appointed historian for _aRTccPo4Bg-00036-00006743-00007039 the first world war centenary projects _aRTccPo4Bg-00037-00007040-00007231 uh we're fortunate that aaron will be _aRTccPo4Bg-00038-00007231-00007398 bringing all that experience to bear _aRTccPo4Bg-00039-00007400-00007463 today _aRTccPo4Bg-00040-00007464-00007774 on his uh topic politicians at war the _aRTccPo4Bg-00041-00007775-00007991 experiences of australian senators and _aRTccPo4Bg-00042-00007992-00008174 members in the first world war _aRTccPo4Bg-00043-00008175-00008310 so i'd invite you to join me in _aRTccPo4Bg-00044-00008311-00009406 welcoming aaron to the microphone _aRTccPo4Bg-00045-00009407-00009614 sometime around noon on the 25th of _aRTccPo4Bg-00046-00009615-00009791 april 1915 _aRTccPo4Bg-00047-00009792-00009999 a 35 year old sergeant of the australian _aRTccPo4Bg-00048-00010000-00010174 first battalion lay mortally wounded in _aRTccPo4Bg-00049-00010175-00010255 thick scrub _aRTccPo4Bg-00050-00010256-00010406 above the beach that would later become _aRTccPo4Bg-00051-00010407-00010614 known as anzac cove _aRTccPo4Bg-00052-00010615-00010774 having come ashore with the second wave _aRTccPo4Bg-00053-00010775-00010919 attack earlier that morning _aRTccPo4Bg-00054-00010920-00011063 men of the first battalion were rushed _aRTccPo4Bg-00055-00011064-00011263 inland to a position on pine ridge _aRTccPo4Bg-00056-00011264-00011510 to help reinforce the tenuous foothold _aRTccPo4Bg-00057-00011511-00011670 troops of the third brigade were holding _aRTccPo4Bg-00058-00011671-00011831 in the face of growing turkish _aRTccPo4Bg-00059-00011832-00012063 resistance _aRTccPo4Bg-00060-00012064-00012223 stretcher bearers came to carry the _aRTccPo4Bg-00061-00012224-00012383 wounded man back down the gully _aRTccPo4Bg-00062-00012384-00012655 very refused there's plenty plenty worse _aRTccPo4Bg-00063-00012656-00012710 out there _aRTccPo4Bg-00064-00012711-00012879 than me he said in what was the last _aRTccPo4Bg-00065-00012880-00013294 time he was ever seen alive _aRTccPo4Bg-00066-00013295-00013622 sergeant ted larkin was one of 8 100 _aRTccPo4Bg-00067-00013623-00013807 australian and new zealand troops killed _aRTccPo4Bg-00068-00013808-00013966 and wounded at anzac within the first _aRTccPo4Bg-00069-00013968-00014127 week of fighting _aRTccPo4Bg-00070-00014128-00014263 his body was recovered during the _aRTccPo4Bg-00071-00014263-00014447 informal truce with turkey's troops in _aRTccPo4Bg-00072-00014447-00014599 the in the following weeks _aRTccPo4Bg-00073-00014600-00014783 but the whereabouts of his final burial _aRTccPo4Bg-00074-00014784-00014999 place remains unknown _aRTccPo4Bg-00075-00015000-00015215 as such he is commemorated on the lone _aRTccPo4Bg-00076-00015216-00015343 pine memorial _aRTccPo4Bg-00077-00015344-00015686 alongside australian new zealand _aRTccPo4Bg-00078-00015687-00015886 soldiers killed on gallipoli who have no _aRTccPo4Bg-00079-00015887-00016038 known grave _aRTccPo4Bg-00080-00016040-00016279 as a soldier lycan appears no different _aRTccPo4Bg-00081-00016280-00016486 from the 33 000 men who served in the _aRTccPo4Bg-00082-00016487-00016655 australian imperial force during the _aRTccPo4Bg-00083-00016656-00016791 first world war _aRTccPo4Bg-00084-00016792-00017047 but as a civilian he was among a number _aRTccPo4Bg-00085-00017048-00017263 of state and federal politicians who saw _aRTccPo4Bg-00086-00017264-00017415 active service with the aif _aRTccPo4Bg-00087-00017416-00017735 during the first world war _aRTccPo4Bg-00088-00017736-00017911 according to figures by the commonwealth _aRTccPo4Bg-00089-00017912-00018043 parliamentary library _aRTccPo4Bg-00090-00018044-00018358 119 australian mps saw active service in _aRTccPo4Bg-00091-00018359-00018567 the first world war _aRTccPo4Bg-00092-00018568-00018719 72 were members of the house of _aRTccPo4Bg-00093-00018720-00019007 representatives 44 were senators and _aRTccPo4Bg-00094-00019008-00019047 three _aRTccPo4Bg-00095-00019048-00019343 served in both chambers among them were _aRTccPo4Bg-00096-00019344-00019558 nine federal mps who fought while in _aRTccPo4Bg-00097-00019559-00019607 office _aRTccPo4Bg-00098-00019608-00019855 and an estimated 20 state mps who saw _aRTccPo4Bg-00099-00019856-00020039 active service abroad during their time _aRTccPo4Bg-00100-00020040-00020191 in office _aRTccPo4Bg-00101-00020192-00020358 not only were these men who debated _aRTccPo4Bg-00102-00020359-00020607 decided and wrote legislate legislative _aRTccPo4Bg-00103-00020608-00020871 legislator for a young australian nation _aRTccPo4Bg-00104-00020872-00020927 but they _aRTccPo4Bg-00105-00020928-00021063 like many young australians were _aRTccPo4Bg-00106-00021064-00021247 personally affected by the war and the _aRTccPo4Bg-00107-00021248-00021486 nation's involvement in it _aRTccPo4Bg-00108-00021487-00021622 as the labour member for willoughby in _aRTccPo4Bg-00109-00021623-00021855 the new south wales as well as the nrl's _aRTccPo4Bg-00110-00021856-00022047 first full-time secretary _aRTccPo4Bg-00111-00022048-00022303 ted larkin was among 10 000 men who _aRTccPo4Bg-00112-00022304-00022511 enlisted at victoria barracks in sydney _aRTccPo4Bg-00113-00022512-00022639 within a fortnight a brit _aRTccPo4Bg-00114-00022640-00022791 of britain's declaration of war in _aRTccPo4Bg-00115-00022792-00023199 germany with germany in august 1914. _aRTccPo4Bg-00116-00023200-00023455 to a crowd outside the recruiting depot _aRTccPo4Bg-00117-00023456-00023622 larkin announced that this was and i _aRTccPo4Bg-00118-00023623-00023855 quote a critical time for our empire and _aRTccPo4Bg-00119-00023856-00024007 i deem it the duty of those holding _aRTccPo4Bg-00120-00024008-00024367 public positions to point the way _aRTccPo4Bg-00121-00024368-00024503 the first world war cast an _aRTccPo4Bg-00122-00024504-00024678 exceptionally long shadow of over _aRTccPo4Bg-00123-00024679-00024855 australian history _aRTccPo4Bg-00124-00024856-00025127 from a wartime population of 4.5 million _aRTccPo4Bg-00125-00025128-00025199 people _aRTccPo4Bg-00126-00025200-00025430 the cost of participating in the war was _aRTccPo4Bg-00127-00025431-00025614 exceptionally high _aRTccPo4Bg-00128-00025616-00025831 within four short years the aif _aRTccPo4Bg-00129-00025832-00026014 sustained 215 _aRTccPo4Bg-00130-00026016-00026335 000 casualties of which 60 000 died on _aRTccPo4Bg-00131-00026336-00026439 active service _aRTccPo4Bg-00132-00026439-00026607 while countless others and their _aRTccPo4Bg-00133-00026608-00026774 families lived with the war's _aRTccPo4Bg-00134-00026775-00026879 psychological _aRTccPo4Bg-00135-00026880-00027199 consequences in the decades afterwards _aRTccPo4Bg-00136-00027200-00027414 virtually every household in community _aRTccPo4Bg-00137-00027416-00027567 in australia was affected by the _aRTccPo4Bg-00138-00027568-00027655 fighting _aRTccPo4Bg-00139-00027656-00027823 which included debates over the issue of _aRTccPo4Bg-00140-00027824-00028014 conscription with divided which divided _aRTccPo4Bg-00141-00028016-00028102 australia along _aRTccPo4Bg-00142-00028104-00028431 social sectarian and political lines _aRTccPo4Bg-00143-00028432-00028655 my paper this afternoon will demonstrate _aRTccPo4Bg-00144-00028656-00028855 that the war also had a deep and lasting _aRTccPo4Bg-00145-00028856-00029007 impact on australia's political _aRTccPo4Bg-00146-00029008-00029111 community _aRTccPo4Bg-00147-00029112-00029255 not just in the form of the political _aRTccPo4Bg-00148-00029256-00029431 issues that affected the nation during _aRTccPo4Bg-00149-00029432-00029479 the war _aRTccPo4Bg-00150-00029480-00029718 but on a more private level impacting on _aRTccPo4Bg-00151-00029719-00029895 serving politicians in both state and _aRTccPo4Bg-00152-00029895-00030007 federal politics _aRTccPo4Bg-00153-00030008-00030231 whose sense of loyalty duty and _aRTccPo4Bg-00154-00030232-00030462 patriotism to the broader british empire _aRTccPo4Bg-00155-00030463-00030646 led them to become active participants _aRTccPo4Bg-00156-00030647-00030862 in the fighting _aRTccPo4Bg-00157-00030863-00031046 the first world war is often seen today _aRTccPo4Bg-00158-00031047-00031262 as a costly and futile slaughter of no _aRTccPo4Bg-00159-00031263-00031431 real gain or outcome _aRTccPo4Bg-00160-00031432-00031711 but in 1914 australians like ted larkin _aRTccPo4Bg-00161-00031712-00031870 were deeply and personally committed to _aRTccPo4Bg-00162-00031872-00031999 australia's military _aRTccPo4Bg-00163-00032000-00032111 committed to australia's military _aRTccPo4Bg-00164-00032112-00032335 commitment to the conflict _aRTccPo4Bg-00165-00032336-00032502 this was mainly due to the fact that _aRTccPo4Bg-00166-00032503-00032679 australia was a brit of the dominion of _aRTccPo4Bg-00167-00032680-00032783 the british empire _aRTccPo4Bg-00168-00032784-00032951 and shared exceptionally close ties with _aRTccPo4Bg-00169-00032952-00033207 britain when war began _aRTccPo4Bg-00170-00033208-00033383 the six self-governing british colonies _aRTccPo4Bg-00171-00033384-00033590 had federated just 13 years before the _aRTccPo4Bg-00172-00033591-00033718 outbreak of war _aRTccPo4Bg-00173-00033719-00033951 twenty percent of the population _aRTccPo4Bg-00174-00033952-00034087 residing in australia _aRTccPo4Bg-00175-00034088-00034279 had been uh born in britain and on the _aRTccPo4Bg-00176-00034280-00034390 international level _aRTccPo4Bg-00177-00034391-00034527 britain still managed australia's _aRTccPo4Bg-00178-00034528-00034679 diplomatic relations with the rest of _aRTccPo4Bg-00179-00034680-00034831 the world _aRTccPo4Bg-00180-00034832-00034999 these strong ties to what australia's _aRTccPo4Bg-00181-00035000-00035174 referred to as the mother country _aRTccPo4Bg-00182-00035175-00035311 meant that there were few dissenting _aRTccPo4Bg-00183-00035312-00035574 voices in australia in august 1914 _aRTccPo4Bg-00184-00035575-00035743 when german troops invaded neutral _aRTccPo4Bg-00185-00035744-00035959 belgium putting an invasion force within _aRTccPo4Bg-00186-00035960-00036118 100 kilometers of the english channel _aRTccPo4Bg-00187-00036119-00036343 ports _aRTccPo4Bg-00188-00036344-00036543 when britain declared war on the 4th of _aRTccPo4Bg-00189-00036544-00036679 august 1914 _aRTccPo4Bg-00190-00036680-00036887 australia was automatically at war along _aRTccPo4Bg-00191-00036888-00037127 with the rest of the british dominions _aRTccPo4Bg-00192-00037128-00037302 this may seem absurd to modern _aRTccPo4Bg-00193-00037303-00037471 australians but the government at the _aRTccPo4Bg-00194-00037472-00037527 time _aRTccPo4Bg-00195-00037528-00037695 was willing to accept britain's decision _aRTccPo4Bg-00196-00037696-00037830 without question _aRTccPo4Bg-00197-00037831-00037983 believing that defending the rights of _aRTccPo4Bg-00198-00037984-00038118 small countries like belgium and _aRTccPo4Bg-00199-00038119-00038335 containing german expansionism in europe _aRTccPo4Bg-00200-00038336-00038646 were core interests for australia news _aRTccPo4Bg-00201-00038647-00038783 that britain was at war with germany _aRTccPo4Bg-00202-00038784-00038951 came in the midst of a federal election _aRTccPo4Bg-00203-00038952-00039023 campaign _aRTccPo4Bg-00204-00039024-00039199 where it received unanimous support from _aRTccPo4Bg-00205-00039200-00039430 both sides of politics _aRTccPo4Bg-00206-00039431-00039590 one of the earliest overtures took place _aRTccPo4Bg-00207-00039591-00039767 at horsham in victoria _aRTccPo4Bg-00208-00039768-00039967 weeks before war was declared when the _aRTccPo4Bg-00209-00039968-00040143 incumbent prime minister joseph cook _aRTccPo4Bg-00210-00040144-00040295 announced that if war broke out in _aRTccPo4Bg-00211-00040296-00040374 europe all _aRTccPo4Bg-00212-00040375-00040543 australia's resources will be committed _aRTccPo4Bg-00213-00040544-00040683 for the preservation of the british _aRTccPo4Bg-00214-00040684-00040823 empire _aRTccPo4Bg-00215-00040824-00040943 his opponent the leader of the _aRTccPo4Bg-00216-00040944-00041183 australian labor party andrew fisher _aRTccPo4Bg-00217-00041184-00041351 echoed the sentiment at kolak where he _aRTccPo4Bg-00218-00041352-00041543 famously declared that australia would _aRTccPo4Bg-00219-00041544-00041727 stand beside our own to help and defend _aRTccPo4Bg-00220-00041728-00041855 britain to our last men _aRTccPo4Bg-00221-00041856-00042462 and our last shilling _aRTccPo4Bg-00222-00042463-00042615 some recruiting posters there echoing _aRTccPo4Bg-00223-00042616-00043007 the sentiments of the time _aRTccPo4Bg-00224-00043008-00043143 recruiting began for the australian _aRTccPo4Bg-00225-00043144-00043343 imperial force on the 11th of august in _aRTccPo4Bg-00226-00043344-00043502 order to fulfill the government's pledge _aRTccPo4Bg-00227-00043503-00043702 to send britain a military force of 20 _aRTccPo4Bg-00228-00043703-00043879 000 troops in the form of an infantry _aRTccPo4Bg-00229-00043880-00044087 division and a light horse brigade _aRTccPo4Bg-00230-00044088-00044335 but by the end of the year 50 000 men _aRTccPo4Bg-00231-00044336-00044415 had already _aRTccPo4Bg-00232-00044416-00044630 enlisted uh and volunteered for active _aRTccPo4Bg-00233-00044631-00044823 service abroad _aRTccPo4Bg-00234-00044824-00045062 outside victoria barracks in sydney ted _aRTccPo4Bg-00235-00045063-00045239 larkin urged all in public office to _aRTccPo4Bg-00236-00045240-00045455 lead by example and volunteer for active _aRTccPo4Bg-00237-00045456-00045567 service _aRTccPo4Bg-00238-00045568-00045711 but the reality was that very few _aRTccPo4Bg-00239-00045712-00045862 members in state and federal parliament _aRTccPo4Bg-00240-00045863-00045990 at the time would have met the strict _aRTccPo4Bg-00241-00045991-00046223 eligibility requirements _aRTccPo4Bg-00242-00046224-00046462 at the start of the war the aif required _aRTccPo4Bg-00243-00046463-00046655 applicants to be between the ages of 18 _aRTccPo4Bg-00244-00046656-00046790 and 35 _aRTccPo4Bg-00245-00046791-00046999 a height of five foot six inches and a _aRTccPo4Bg-00246-00047000-00047286 chest measurement of 34 inches _aRTccPo4Bg-00247-00047287-00047471 since the average age of federal mps at _aRTccPo4Bg-00248-00047472-00047630 the time was 43 _aRTccPo4Bg-00249-00047631-00047830 most were either too old or too unfit to _aRTccPo4Bg-00250-00047831-00048039 serve _aRTccPo4Bg-00251-00048040-00048183 recruiting standards lowered after _aRTccPo4Bg-00252-00048184-00048399 gallipoli as mounting casualty figures _aRTccPo4Bg-00253-00048400-00048567 and falling enlistment numbers resulted _aRTccPo4Bg-00254-00048568-00048679 in a greater need _aRTccPo4Bg-00255-00048680-00048911 to fill reinforcement quotas so it was _aRTccPo4Bg-00256-00048912-00049118 not until later in the war that most mps _aRTccPo4Bg-00257-00049119-00049511 could follow ted larkin's example _aRTccPo4Bg-00258-00049512-00049807 in january 1916 at the age of 51 the _aRTccPo4Bg-00259-00049808-00049974 federal member for bendigo alfred _aRTccPo4Bg-00260-00049975-00050055 hampson _aRTccPo4Bg-00261-00050056-00050174 fronted the recruiting depot at _aRTccPo4Bg-00262-00050175-00050351 melbourne's town hall where he passed a _aRTccPo4Bg-00263-00050352-00050439 medical test _aRTccPo4Bg-00264-00050440-00050735 but was turned away because of his age _aRTccPo4Bg-00265-00050736-00050846 undeterred _aRTccPo4Bg-00266-00050847-00051039 hamster tried a second time after losing _aRTccPo4Bg-00267-00051040-00051270 his seat to billy hughes in the 1917 _aRTccPo4Bg-00268-00051271-00051430 federal election _aRTccPo4Bg-00269-00051432-00051623 after leaving parliament and lying about _aRTccPo4Bg-00270-00051624-00051823 his age hansen was eventually accepted _aRTccPo4Bg-00271-00051824-00051935 into the aif _aRTccPo4Bg-00272-00051936-00052070 and served on the western front in the _aRTccPo4Bg-00273-00052071-00052263 final months of the war serving with the _aRTccPo4Bg-00274-00052264-00052638 second light railway operating company _aRTccPo4Bg-00275-00052639-00052815 some mps had political and religious _aRTccPo4Bg-00276-00052816-00052991 reasons that prevented them from serving _aRTccPo4Bg-00277-00052991-00053087 in the aif _aRTccPo4Bg-00278-00053088-00053279 and certainly some felt a moral _aRTccPo4Bg-00279-00053279-00053399 obligation to to _aRTccPo4Bg-00280-00053400-00053550 their constituencies to remain in _aRTccPo4Bg-00281-00053551-00053823 australia during the 1914 federal _aRTccPo4Bg-00282-00053824-00053894 election _aRTccPo4Bg-00283-00053895-00054047 the senior member for the federal labor _aRTccPo4Bg-00284-00054048-00054238 opposition billy hughes _aRTccPo4Bg-00285-00054239-00054407 suggested suspending the election during _aRTccPo4Bg-00286-00054408-00054599 the international crisis in support of a _aRTccPo4Bg-00287-00054600-00054830 government of national unity _aRTccPo4Bg-00288-00054832-00054999 hughes's proposal meant elected members _aRTccPo4Bg-00289-00055000-00055223 would return unopposed but the idea was _aRTccPo4Bg-00290-00055224-00055359 considered unworkable and quickly _aRTccPo4Bg-00291-00055360-00055503 forgotten _aRTccPo4Bg-00292-00055504-00055687 federal mps who felt judy bound to _aRTccPo4Bg-00293-00055688-00055863 enlist took a leap of absence and _aRTccPo4Bg-00294-00055864-00055999 generally became from parties that _aRTccPo4Bg-00295-00056000-00056166 occupied safe seats _aRTccPo4Bg-00296-00056167-00056375 while those in marginal seats were more _aRTccPo4Bg-00297-00056376-00056599 inclined to enlist after the 1917 _aRTccPo4Bg-00298-00056600-00056887 federal election _aRTccPo4Bg-00299-00056888-00057079 william fleming the federal member for _aRTccPo4Bg-00300-00057079-00057335 robertson enlisted as a private in 1916 _aRTccPo4Bg-00301-00057336-00057535 following news at his old labor opponent _aRTccPo4Bg-00302-00057536-00057703 william johnson had been killed at _aRTccPo4Bg-00303-00057704-00057879 posiere _aRTccPo4Bg-00304-00057879-00058015 fleming was still in camp where his _aRTccPo4Bg-00305-00058016-00058238 conservative seat was contested by _aRTccPo4Bg-00306-00058239-00058503 labor candidate eva siri one of the _aRTccPo4Bg-00307-00058504-00058726 first women endorsed by a major party to _aRTccPo4Bg-00308-00058727-00058919 contest the australian parliament _aRTccPo4Bg-00309-00058920-00059071 who questioned the duration of his _aRTccPo4Bg-00310-00059072-00059263 training and accused him and are quote _aRTccPo4Bg-00311-00059264-00059615 playing at soldiers an ardent patriot _aRTccPo4Bg-00312-00059616-00059887 who who helped an ardent patron who _aRTccPo4Bg-00313-00059888-00060038 opposed conscription _aRTccPo4Bg-00314-00060039-00060247 fleming's personal decision to enlist _aRTccPo4Bg-00315-00060248-00060447 helped hughes international colleagues _aRTccPo4Bg-00316-00060448-00060647 brand themselves as the win the war _aRTccPo4Bg-00317-00060648-00060750 party _aRTccPo4Bg-00318-00060751-00060926 conveying the message that they alone _aRTccPo4Bg-00319-00060927-00061094 could lead australia to victory for the _aRTccPo4Bg-00320-00061095-00061319 imperial cause _aRTccPo4Bg-00321-00061320-00061526 fleming successfully retained his seat _aRTccPo4Bg-00322-00061527-00061638 and sailed for the _aRTccPo4Bg-00323-00061639-00061806 for england five months later as a _aRTccPo4Bg-00324-00061807-00062038 driver with the australian army service _aRTccPo4Bg-00325-00062039-00062126 corps _aRTccPo4Bg-00326-00062127-00062311 promoted to sergeant he was gassed at _aRTccPo4Bg-00327-00062312-00062582 perron in france in september 1918 and _aRTccPo4Bg-00328-00062583-00062694 returned to australia _aRTccPo4Bg-00329-00062695-00063006 after the armistice some _aRTccPo4Bg-00330-00063007-00063182 some politicians simply could not face _aRTccPo4Bg-00331-00063183-00063447 the shame of not going to the war _aRTccPo4Bg-00332-00063448-00063647 one was james lachlan the only sitting _aRTccPo4Bg-00333-00063648-00063806 senator to serve overseas _aRTccPo4Bg-00334-00063807-00064038 who enlisted in 1915 and declared to the _aRTccPo4Bg-00335-00064039-00064199 defense minister george pearce and i _aRTccPo4Bg-00336-00064200-00064271 quote _aRTccPo4Bg-00337-00064272-00064447 if you can't put me on the firing line _aRTccPo4Bg-00338-00064448-00064775 put me near to it as you can _aRTccPo4Bg-00339-00064776-00065030 another was granville ryrie a uh _aRTccPo4Bg-00340-00065032-00065175 distinguished ball wall veteran and _aRTccPo4Bg-00341-00065176-00065366 national member for north sydney _aRTccPo4Bg-00342-00065367-00065511 he wrote to his wife on the 4th of _aRTccPo4Bg-00343-00065512-00065694 august 1914 _aRTccPo4Bg-00344-00065695-00065863 i simply couldn't look men in the face _aRTccPo4Bg-00345-00065864-00066063 again especially if some of my political _aRTccPo4Bg-00346-00066064-00066191 opponents whom i've accused of _aRTccPo4Bg-00347-00066192-00066463 disloyalty if i didn't offer to go _aRTccPo4Bg-00348-00066464-00066767 i simply cannot hold back _aRTccPo4Bg-00349-00066768-00067015 a major in the part-time militia and _aRTccPo4Bg-00350-00067016-00067150 commander of the third light horse _aRTccPo4Bg-00351-00067151-00067375 regiment ryrie typified a number of _aRTccPo4Bg-00352-00067376-00067526 militia officers who helped _aRTccPo4Bg-00353-00067527-00067703 held political positions in the years _aRTccPo4Bg-00354-00067704-00067894 after federation _aRTccPo4Bg-00355-00067895-00068063 with substantial command and leadership _aRTccPo4Bg-00356-00068064-00068287 experience backed by years of overseas _aRTccPo4Bg-00357-00068288-00068367 service _aRTccPo4Bg-00358-00068368-00068559 men like ryrie were fundamental in _aRTccPo4Bg-00359-00068560-00068703 raising training _aRTccPo4Bg-00360-00068704-00068911 and commanding the newly formed aif _aRTccPo4Bg-00361-00068912-00069159 before it sailed for the great war _aRTccPo4Bg-00362-00069160-00069335 promoted to brigadier general ryrie was _aRTccPo4Bg-00363-00069336-00069479 given command of the second lighthouse _aRTccPo4Bg-00364-00069480-00069687 brigade which defended the suez canal in _aRTccPo4Bg-00365-00069688-00069871 egypt against ottoman incursions _aRTccPo4Bg-00366-00069872-00070038 then fought dismounted at gallipoli _aRTccPo4Bg-00367-00070039-00070175 where his men held the southernmost _aRTccPo4Bg-00368-00070176-00070367 defenses at anzac _aRTccPo4Bg-00369-00070368-00070623 wounded twice on gallipoli riri later _aRTccPo4Bg-00370-00070624-00070806 led his men across the sinai desert and _aRTccPo4Bg-00371-00070807-00070967 took part in the long advance across _aRTccPo4Bg-00372-00070968-00071031 palestine _aRTccPo4Bg-00373-00071032-00071287 in into jordan he was awarded the order _aRTccPo4Bg-00374-00071288-00071382 of the nile _aRTccPo4Bg-00375-00071383-00071535 mentioned in dispatches no less than _aRTccPo4Bg-00376-00071536-00071743 five times and commanded the anzac _aRTccPo4Bg-00377-00071744-00071894 mountain division before returning home _aRTccPo4Bg-00378-00071895-00072271 to his electorate in 1919 _aRTccPo4Bg-00379-00072272-00072415 ryrie had a long and distinguished _aRTccPo4Bg-00380-00072416-00072575 military career that would have helped _aRTccPo4Bg-00381-00072576-00072703 that would have certainly helped his _aRTccPo4Bg-00382-00072704-00072894 political aspirations in the years after _aRTccPo4Bg-00383-00072895-00073006 the war _aRTccPo4Bg-00384-00073007-00073175 there was at least one new south wales _aRTccPo4Bg-00385-00073176-00073311 politician who had risen through the _aRTccPo4Bg-00386-00073312-00073359 ranks _aRTccPo4Bg-00387-00073360-00073575 of the pre-war militia and whose skills _aRTccPo4Bg-00388-00073576-00073750 and command and leadership experience _aRTccPo4Bg-00389-00073751-00073943 extend ended much more than his time in _aRTccPo4Bg-00390-00073944-00074087 politics _aRTccPo4Bg-00391-00074088-00074287 the liberal member for armadale george _aRTccPo4Bg-00392-00074288-00074479 braund commanded the 13th infantry _aRTccPo4Bg-00393-00074480-00074647 regiment on the eve of the first world _aRTccPo4Bg-00394-00074648-00074719 war _aRTccPo4Bg-00395-00074720-00074926 and on the formation of the aif for 19 _aRTccPo4Bg-00396-00074927-00075087 in august 1914 _aRTccPo4Bg-00397-00075088-00075247 was appointed commander of the 2nd _aRTccPo4Bg-00398-00075248-00075479 battalion _aRTccPo4Bg-00399-00075480-00075679 braun led his men ashore in gallipoli on _aRTccPo4Bg-00400-00075680-00075838 the morning of april 25th _aRTccPo4Bg-00401-00075839-00076126 1915 and for two days held an isolated _aRTccPo4Bg-00402-00076127-00076319 position atop of walker's ridge in the _aRTccPo4Bg-00403-00076320-00076582 face of growing turkish resistance _aRTccPo4Bg-00404-00076583-00076759 early on the morning or fourth of may _aRTccPo4Bg-00405-00076760-00076943 braun set off to brigade headquarters _aRTccPo4Bg-00406-00076944-00077175 via a shortcut through the scrub _aRTccPo4Bg-00407-00077176-00077350 slightly deaf he failed to hear a _aRTccPo4Bg-00408-00077351-00077519 challenge from an australian century _aRTccPo4Bg-00409-00077520-00078191 he mistook him for a turk and killed him _aRTccPo4Bg-00410-00078192-00078391 there's a photograph there of ted larkin _aRTccPo4Bg-00411-00078392-00078638 and george braun and another uh _aRTccPo4Bg-00412-00078639-00078767 another member of parliament the new _aRTccPo4Bg-00413-00078768-00078950 south wales new south wales legislative _aRTccPo4Bg-00414-00078951-00079094 assembly in egypt _aRTccPo4Bg-00415-00079095-00079262 uh so it's a quite a quite interesting _aRTccPo4Bg-00416-00079263-00079406 photograph because two of the three men _aRTccPo4Bg-00417-00079407-00079503 there not only were they _aRTccPo4Bg-00418-00079504-00079638 they're politicians but they were killed _aRTccPo4Bg-00419-00079639-00079943 in the fighting on gallipoli _aRTccPo4Bg-00420-00079944-00080191 lykan fleming a locklin o'reilly and _aRTccPo4Bg-00421-00080192-00080375 ryrie were all equated war service with _aRTccPo4Bg-00422-00080376-00080559 an unwavering loyalty to the british _aRTccPo4Bg-00423-00080560-00080655 empire _aRTccPo4Bg-00424-00080656-00080871 but in south australia australia's entry _aRTccPo4Bg-00425-00080872-00081015 to the war affected the careers of a _aRTccPo4Bg-00426-00081016-00081191 number of political figures in a very _aRTccPo4Bg-00427-00081192-00081367 different way _aRTccPo4Bg-00428-00081368-00081511 germans were the largest non-british _aRTccPo4Bg-00429-00081512-00081687 group of europeans in australia at the _aRTccPo4Bg-00430-00081688-00081823 time _aRTccPo4Bg-00431-00081824-00081982 reflecting the large pop large _aRTccPo4Bg-00432-00081983-00082118 population of german migrants that _aRTccPo4Bg-00433-00082119-00082287 settled in south australia in the 19th _aRTccPo4Bg-00434-00082288-00082367 century _aRTccPo4Bg-00435-00082368-00082606 through at least seven german uh seven _aRTccPo4Bg-00436-00082607-00082799 south australian mps of identifiably _aRTccPo4Bg-00437-00082800-00082950 german descent in parliament _aRTccPo4Bg-00438-00082951-00083111 when britain went to war with with their _aRTccPo4Bg-00439-00083112-00083326 homeland _aRTccPo4Bg-00440-00083327-00083567 all seven members five liberal and two _aRTccPo4Bg-00441-00083568-00083647 labour _aRTccPo4Bg-00442-00083648-00083847 came under intense public scrutiny at a _aRTccPo4Bg-00443-00083848-00084071 time when germans and all things german _aRTccPo4Bg-00444-00084072-00084367 were openly subjected to hostility as _aRTccPo4Bg-00445-00084368-00084526 rumors of atrocities stories from the _aRTccPo4Bg-00446-00084527-00084679 fighting in northern france and belgium _aRTccPo4Bg-00447-00084680-00084799 filtered home _aRTccPo4Bg-00448-00084800-00084950 locals directed their anger at some of _aRTccPo4Bg-00449-00084951-00085094 the state's most respected german _aRTccPo4Bg-00450-00085095-00085231 citizens _aRTccPo4Bg-00451-00085232-00085375 among them was the attorney general and _aRTccPo4Bg-00452-00085376-00085606 industry minister hermann homborg whose _aRTccPo4Bg-00453-00085607-00085759 offices in adelaide were raided after _aRTccPo4Bg-00454-00085760-00085918 the war was declared by _aRTccPo4Bg-00455-00085919-00086079 by soldiers with rifles and fixed _aRTccPo4Bg-00456-00086080-00086223 bayonets _aRTccPo4Bg-00457-00086224-00086503 homburg resigned in january 1915 to _aRTccPo4Bg-00458-00086504-00086662 avoid embarrassing the government in the _aRTccPo4Bg-00459-00086663-00086799 forthcoming election _aRTccPo4Bg-00460-00086800-00086999 writing of a campaign and i quote of _aRTccPo4Bg-00461-00087000-00087206 lies and colonies against me because i'm _aRTccPo4Bg-00462-00087207-00087455 not of british heritage _aRTccPo4Bg-00463-00087456-00087623 the german mps were considered something _aRTccPo4Bg-00464-00087624-00087782 of an electoral handicap when the state _aRTccPo4Bg-00465-00087783-00087935 government lost the election _aRTccPo4Bg-00466-00087936-00088103 and mistrust intensified the following _aRTccPo4Bg-00467-00088104-00088238 year when it was clear that voters in _aRTccPo4Bg-00468-00088239-00088382 german districts they contributed to _aRTccPo4Bg-00469-00088383-00088511 south australia's rejection of the _aRTccPo4Bg-00470-00088512-00088631 conscription referendum _aRTccPo4Bg-00471-00088632-00088959 in october 1916. the war gravely _aRTccPo4Bg-00472-00088960-00089111 affected the political careers of these _aRTccPo4Bg-00473-00089112-00089279 german mps holding office in south _aRTccPo4Bg-00474-00089280-00089350 australia _aRTccPo4Bg-00475-00089351-00089526 with just one of the seven remaining in _aRTccPo4Bg-00476-00089527-00090103 office in november 1918. _aRTccPo4Bg-00477-00090104-00090350 after gallipoli the aif returned to _aRTccPo4Bg-00478-00090351-00090511 egypt where it effectively doubled in _aRTccPo4Bg-00479-00090512-00090671 size in preparation for the fighting on _aRTccPo4Bg-00480-00090672-00090862 the western front _aRTccPo4Bg-00481-00090863-00091082 as soon as the aif returned in france in _aRTccPo4Bg-00482-00091083-00091199 mid-1916 _aRTccPo4Bg-00483-00091200-00091367 the main challenge facing australians _aRTccPo4Bg-00484-00091368-00091559 with matching casualties with a steady _aRTccPo4Bg-00485-00091560-00091799 stream of willing volunteers _aRTccPo4Bg-00486-00091800-00091959 eight months of fighting on gallipoli _aRTccPo4Bg-00487-00091960-00092311 had cost the aif 26 000 casualties _aRTccPo4Bg-00488-00092312-00092511 which the aif lost in less than eight _aRTccPo4Bg-00489-00092512-00092615 weeks in france _aRTccPo4Bg-00490-00092616-00092862 in costly actions at framel posiere and _aRTccPo4Bg-00491-00092863-00093126 mukey farm _aRTccPo4Bg-00492-00093127-00093294 in australia state-based recruiting _aRTccPo4Bg-00493-00093295-00093423 committees increase their efforts in _aRTccPo4Bg-00494-00093424-00093550 urging young men to enlist in the _aRTccPo4Bg-00495-00093551-00093718 australian imperial force _aRTccPo4Bg-00496-00093719-00093887 and certainly local members use public _aRTccPo4Bg-00497-00093888-00094055 meetings in gathering to urge the men of _aRTccPo4Bg-00498-00094056-00094303 their electorate to volunteer _aRTccPo4Bg-00499-00094304-00094526 some led by example such as ambrose _aRTccPo4Bg-00500-00094527-00094615 carmichael _aRTccPo4Bg-00501-00094616-00094791 the labour minister of leichhardt and _aRTccPo4Bg-00502-00094792-00094950 minister for public instruction in new _aRTccPo4Bg-00503-00094951-00095087 south wales parliament _aRTccPo4Bg-00504-00095088-00095335 who signed on as as soon as the extended _aRTccPo4Bg-00505-00095336-00095638 age requirements permitted him to do so _aRTccPo4Bg-00506-00095639-00095871 in november 1915 carmichael announced _aRTccPo4Bg-00507-00095872-00095999 that he would personally raise a _aRTccPo4Bg-00508-00096000-00096159 thousand reserve recruits from rifle _aRTccPo4Bg-00509-00096160-00096503 clubs in new south wales _aRTccPo4Bg-00510-00096504-00096743 enlisting as a private at the age of 44 _aRTccPo4Bg-00511-00096744-00096911 carmichael and his willing volunteers _aRTccPo4Bg-00512-00096912-00097126 entered broadmeadow camp in newcastle _aRTccPo4Bg-00513-00097127-00097271 new south wales where they formed the _aRTccPo4Bg-00514-00097272-00097526 basis of the newly raised 36 battalion _aRTccPo4Bg-00515-00097527-00097718 a unit that colloquially became referred _aRTccPo4Bg-00516-00097719-00098062 to as carmichael's 1000. _aRTccPo4Bg-00517-00098063-00098199 carmichael was eventually commissioned _aRTccPo4Bg-00518-00098200-00098343 as a lieutenant and embarked with a _aRTccPo4Bg-00519-00098344-00098487 battalion on the training camps of _aRTccPo4Bg-00520-00098488-00098638 england before proceeding to the western _aRTccPo4Bg-00521-00098639-00098743 front in november _aRTccPo4Bg-00522-00098744-00099094 1916 and there he became a commander _aRTccPo4Bg-00523-00099095-00099279 known for his uh his exceptional command _aRTccPo4Bg-00524-00099280-00099494 of brimstone and fire _aRTccPo4Bg-00525-00099495-00099679 as part of the third division the 36th _aRTccPo4Bg-00526-00099680-00099847 battalion spent the following weeks in _aRTccPo4Bg-00527-00099848-00100015 the relatively quiet hoopling sector _aRTccPo4Bg-00528-00100016-00100191 near the town of armentiere _aRTccPo4Bg-00529-00100192-00100311 where it carried out a regime of _aRTccPo4Bg-00530-00100312-00100471 patrolling and trench raiding throughout _aRTccPo4Bg-00531-00100472-00100671 the ensuring winter _aRTccPo4Bg-00532-00100672-00100974 in january 1917 carmichael was seriously _aRTccPo4Bg-00533-00100975-00101150 wounded in the in the face and hands _aRTccPo4Bg-00534-00101151-00101311 when a german raiding party _aRTccPo4Bg-00535-00101312-00101471 attacked the australian positions and _aRTccPo4Bg-00536-00101472-00101631 was evacuated to england for treatment _aRTccPo4Bg-00537-00101632-00101806 and recovery _aRTccPo4Bg-00538-00101807-00102031 for conspicuous guarantee and organizing _aRTccPo4Bg-00539-00102032-00102159 his platoon under heavy german _aRTccPo4Bg-00540-00102160-00102247 bombardment _aRTccPo4Bg-00541-00102248-00102439 and i quote for setting a splendid _aRTccPo4Bg-00542-00102440-00102647 example of courage and determinism _aRTccPo4Bg-00543-00102648-00102806 ambrose carmichael was awarded the _aRTccPo4Bg-00544-00102807-00103094 military cross _aRTccPo4Bg-00545-00103095-00103239 carmichael missed out on the fighting at _aRTccPo4Bg-00546-00103240-00103423 macine but he was promoted to captain _aRTccPo4Bg-00547-00103424-00103582 and rejoined his unit in belgium at the _aRTccPo4Bg-00548-00103583-00103623 time _aRTccPo4Bg-00549-00103624-00103782 to participate in the third battle of _aRTccPo4Bg-00550-00103783-00103927 eep _aRTccPo4Bg-00551-00103928-00104078 he was wounded a second time at brut _aRTccPo4Bg-00552-00104079-00104294 cinder on the 4th 4th of october _aRTccPo4Bg-00553-00104295-00104486 receiving gunshot wounds to his arms and _aRTccPo4Bg-00554-00104488-00104710 legs which necessitated his evacuation _aRTccPo4Bg-00555-00104711-00104895 to england and repatriation to australia _aRTccPo4Bg-00556-00104896-00105158 in january 1918 _aRTccPo4Bg-00557-00105159-00105319 carmichael was a strong advocate of _aRTccPo4Bg-00558-00105320-00105543 conscription but his return to australia _aRTccPo4Bg-00559-00105544-00105678 in the wake of the defeat of the second _aRTccPo4Bg-00560-00105679-00105815 conscription referendum _aRTccPo4Bg-00561-00105816-00106015 led him to to appeal for another in a _aRTccPo4Bg-00562-00106016-00106190 quote great sustained recruiting _aRTccPo4Bg-00563-00106191-00106271 campaign _aRTccPo4Bg-00564-00106272-00106447 as voluntary enlistments for the iaf _aRTccPo4Bg-00565-00106448-00106743 plummeted to an all-time low _aRTccPo4Bg-00566-00106744-00106871 he was not expelled from the labour _aRTccPo4Bg-00567-00106872-00107102 party after the split over conscription _aRTccPo4Bg-00568-00107103-00107263 but he gradually drifted away from the _aRTccPo4Bg-00569-00107264-00107486 party as he invested all his uh all his _aRTccPo4Bg-00570-00107488-00107623 energy in stimulating voluntary _aRTccPo4Bg-00571-00107624-00107758 recruiting _aRTccPo4Bg-00572-00107759-00108031 in february 1918 carmichael became the _aRTccPo4Bg-00573-00108032-00108143 chairman of the new south wales _aRTccPo4Bg-00574-00108144-00108254 recruiting committee _aRTccPo4Bg-00575-00108255-00108510 raising yet another carmichael's 1000 _aRTccPo4Bg-00576-00108511-00108623 and returning to france with a _aRTccPo4Bg-00577-00108624-00108775 reinforcement group for the 33rd _aRTccPo4Bg-00578-00108776-00109047 battalion in september 1918. _aRTccPo4Bg-00579-00109048-00109215 he arrived to several weeks before the _aRTccPo4Bg-00580-00109216-00109439 armistice was signed and did not see any _aRTccPo4Bg-00581-00109440-00109766 further fighting _aRTccPo4Bg-00582-00109767-00109943 carmichael returned to australia in _aRTccPo4Bg-00583-00109944-00110095 state politics where he was revered as _aRTccPo4Bg-00584-00110096-00110263 something of an overrage and mercurial _aRTccPo4Bg-00585-00110264-00110383 war hero _aRTccPo4Bg-00586-00110383-00110534 but his energy and personal sense of _aRTccPo4Bg-00587-00110535-00110734 conviction in believing for the cause _aRTccPo4Bg-00588-00110735-00110886 for which he had fought was shared by at _aRTccPo4Bg-00589-00110888-00110975 least one other _aRTccPo4Bg-00590-00110976-00111166 politician who had let he had enlisted _aRTccPo4Bg-00591-00111167-00111399 in the latest stages of the war _aRTccPo4Bg-00592-00111400-00111615 bartholomew stubbs a labour member for _aRTccPo4Bg-00593-00111616-00111751 subiaco and the west australian _aRTccPo4Bg-00594-00111752-00111839 legislative _aRTccPo4Bg-00595-00111840-00112031 assembly enlisted as soon as the _aRTccPo4Bg-00596-00112032-00112239 eligibility requirements permitted _aRTccPo4Bg-00597-00112240-00112478 signing on in perth at the age of 43 in _aRTccPo4Bg-00598-00112479-00112727 january 1916. _aRTccPo4Bg-00599-00112728-00112854 as a member of the west australian _aRTccPo4Bg-00600-00112855-00113054 recruiting committee stubbs had publicly _aRTccPo4Bg-00601-00113055-00113215 voiced his beliefs about the justice and _aRTccPo4Bg-00602-00113216-00113327 the allied cause _aRTccPo4Bg-00603-00113328-00113502 and had spoken at a number of recruiting _aRTccPo4Bg-00604-00113503-00113639 platforms in the subiaco _aRTccPo4Bg-00605-00113640-00113871 area but believe leading by example was _aRTccPo4Bg-00606-00113872-00114078 the best course of action _aRTccPo4Bg-00607-00114079-00114263 to reporters of the daily news stub _aRTccPo4Bg-00608-00114264-00114471 urged middle-aged men without children _aRTccPo4Bg-00609-00114472-00114631 or other thais or other young _aRTccPo4Bg-00610-00114632-00114823 other whose children have grown up to _aRTccPo4Bg-00611-00114824-00115199 volunteer before the young married men _aRTccPo4Bg-00612-00115200-00115502 this is a uh this is a an image of uh _aRTccPo4Bg-00613-00115503-00115758 stubbs attestation form uh held by the _aRTccPo4Bg-00614-00115759-00115919 national archives of australia _aRTccPo4Bg-00615-00115920-00116054 and it's interesting for a number of _aRTccPo4Bg-00616-00116055-00116295 reasons because uh for the vast majority _aRTccPo4Bg-00617-00116296-00116447 of men who served in the iaf _aRTccPo4Bg-00618-00116448-00116599 um you know there's a very large _aRTccPo4Bg-00619-00116600-00116823 percentage of them simply laborer or _aRTccPo4Bg-00620-00116824-00117102 uh you know clerk but um but stubbs has _aRTccPo4Bg-00621-00117103-00117223 the distinction of actually having _aRTccPo4Bg-00622-00117224-00117390 member of parliament as he's calling on _aRTccPo4Bg-00623-00117391-00117534 his attestation paper _aRTccPo4Bg-00624-00117535-00117790 um it also says that he was convicted of _aRTccPo4Bg-00625-00117791-00117975 a for civil offence in west australia _aRTccPo4Bg-00626-00117976-00118127 which i haven't actually looked up yet _aRTccPo4Bg-00627-00118128-00118199 so uh _aRTccPo4Bg-00628-00118200-00118310 that's something for the office when i _aRTccPo4Bg-00629-00118311-00118623 return _aRTccPo4Bg-00630-00118624-00118766 after a brief period of training at _aRTccPo4Bg-00631-00118767-00118958 black boy hill east of perth _aRTccPo4Bg-00632-00118959-00119095 and a student at the royal military _aRTccPo4Bg-00633-00119096-00119263 academy at duntroon _aRTccPo4Bg-00634-00119264-00119431 stubbs was commissioned as a second _aRTccPo4Bg-00635-00119432-00119599 lieutenant and embarked for the western _aRTccPo4Bg-00636-00119600-00119647 front _aRTccPo4Bg-00637-00119648-00119823 with a reinforcement for the 51st _aRTccPo4Bg-00638-00119824-00119966 battalion _aRTccPo4Bg-00639-00119967-00120143 in flanders in early august he said o _aRTccPo4Bg-00640-00120144-00120278 cable graham confirming that he would _aRTccPo4Bg-00641-00120279-00120439 run again as the labour candidate in the _aRTccPo4Bg-00642-00120440-00120502 upcoming _aRTccPo4Bg-00643-00120503-00120671 west australian state a west australian _aRTccPo4Bg-00644-00120672-00120895 state election on the 12th of september _aRTccPo4Bg-00645-00120896-00121527 he retained his subiaco seat unopposed _aRTccPo4Bg-00646-00121528-00121734 two weeks later stubbs was shot in the _aRTccPo4Bg-00647-00121735-00121919 chest and killed during the iaf's _aRTccPo4Bg-00648-00121920-00122127 highly successive attack successful _aRTccPo4Bg-00649-00122128-00122263 attack at polygon wood _aRTccPo4Bg-00650-00122264-00122534 near the belgian town of eep according _aRTccPo4Bg-00651-00122535-00122719 to one account written 18 years after _aRTccPo4Bg-00652-00122720-00122839 the war _aRTccPo4Bg-00653-00122840-00123031 the loss of such a popular commander _aRTccPo4Bg-00654-00123032-00123239 resulted in soldiers of his platoon _aRTccPo4Bg-00655-00123240-00123414 seeking battlefield vengeance on a group _aRTccPo4Bg-00656-00123415-00123583 of surrendering german soldiers _aRTccPo4Bg-00657-00123583-00123814 whose pleas for mercy mercy were swiftly _aRTccPo4Bg-00658-00123815-00123983 ignored _aRTccPo4Bg-00659-00123983-00124151 stubbs was given a hasty battlefield _aRTccPo4Bg-00660-00124152-00124310 burial by his men _aRTccPo4Bg-00661-00124311-00124478 but the location of the temporary grave _aRTccPo4Bg-00662-00124479-00124683 marker was subsequently lost in later _aRTccPo4Bg-00663-00124683-00124910 fighting stubs therefore has no known _aRTccPo4Bg-00664-00124911-00124975 grave _aRTccPo4Bg-00665-00124976-00125158 and is today commemorated on the men and _aRTccPo4Bg-00666-00125159-00125310 gate in memorial in eep _aRTccPo4Bg-00667-00125311-00125583 amid the names of 6100 australians who _aRTccPo4Bg-00668-00125583-00125719 remain missing from the fighting in _aRTccPo4Bg-00669-00125720-00125999 belgium _aRTccPo4Bg-00670-00126000-00126158 commenting on the make-up of australian _aRTccPo4Bg-00671-00126159-00126390 politics in the decades after the war _aRTccPo4Bg-00672-00126391-00126558 chris coldheart clark writes that the _aRTccPo4Bg-00673-00126559-00126695 first world war was something of a _aRTccPo4Bg-00674-00126696-00126814 catalyst for the military _aRTccPo4Bg-00675-00126815-00127102 influx into state and federal politics _aRTccPo4Bg-00676-00127103-00127263 the diversity of issue is _aRTccPo4Bg-00677-00127264-00127510 issues such as conscription inflation _aRTccPo4Bg-00678-00127511-00127607 wage freezing _aRTccPo4Bg-00679-00127608-00127783 and exporting burgers had the effect of _aRTccPo4Bg-00680-00127783-00127951 hardening political views in australian _aRTccPo4Bg-00681-00127952-00128031 society _aRTccPo4Bg-00682-00128032-00128158 and caused a number of returned _aRTccPo4Bg-00683-00128159-00128343 servicemen to enter politics before the _aRTccPo4Bg-00684-00128344-00128486 armistice _aRTccPo4Bg-00685-00128488-00128727 throughout the 1920s men who had risen _aRTccPo4Bg-00686-00128728-00128863 through the ranks of the aif _aRTccPo4Bg-00687-00128864-00129086 occupied command positions where highly _aRTccPo4Bg-00688-00129088-00129247 decorated _aRTccPo4Bg-00689-00129248-00129439 or were highly decorated during the war _aRTccPo4Bg-00690-00129440-00129599 were naturally driven to a career in _aRTccPo4Bg-00691-00129600-00129743 politics _aRTccPo4Bg-00692-00129744-00129958 victoria chris victoria cross recipients _aRTccPo4Bg-00693-00129959-00130143 lieutenant arthur blackburn _aRTccPo4Bg-00694-00130144-00130366 and private william curry both entered _aRTccPo4Bg-00695-00130367-00130519 state politics on their return to _aRTccPo4Bg-00696-00130520-00130647 australia _aRTccPo4Bg-00697-00130648-00130910 as the general sir william glasgow major _aRTccPo4Bg-00698-00130911-00131071 general sir neville house who had won a _aRTccPo4Bg-00699-00131072-00131263 victoria cross during the boer war _aRTccPo4Bg-00700-00131264-00131519 uh william uh sir john jelly brand _aRTccPo4Bg-00701-00131520-00131727 brigadier general harold pompey elliott _aRTccPo4Bg-00702-00131728-00131919 a command and colonel edmund drake _aRTccPo4Bg-00703-00131920-00132166 brockman _aRTccPo4Bg-00704-00132167-00132366 some rose to prominence after their war _aRTccPo4Bg-00705-00132367-00132614 service wilfred kent hughes cabinet _aRTccPo4Bg-00706-00132615-00132751 secretary and government whip and the _aRTccPo4Bg-00707-00132752-00132895 victorian legislative assembly in the _aRTccPo4Bg-00708-00132896-00133031 late 1920s _aRTccPo4Bg-00709-00133032-00133159 served had served with the third _aRTccPo4Bg-00710-00133160-00133335 lighthorse regiment on gallipoli _aRTccPo4Bg-00711-00133336-00133471 where he was wounded in the charge at _aRTccPo4Bg-00712-00133472-00133743 the neck in august 1915. _aRTccPo4Bg-00713-00133744-00133902 serving again during the second world _aRTccPo4Bg-00714-00133903-00134111 war he was he was captured by the _aRTccPo4Bg-00715-00134112-00134247 japanese at singapore _aRTccPo4Bg-00716-00134248-00134487 in february 1942 and spent three years _aRTccPo4Bg-00717-00134488-00134671 imprisoned at changi formosa and _aRTccPo4Bg-00718-00134672-00134831 manchuria _aRTccPo4Bg-00719-00134832-00134990 thomas white the minister for trade and _aRTccPo4Bg-00720-00134991-00135175 customs in the first lions ministry _aRTccPo4Bg-00721-00135176-00135335 had been a pilot in the australian _aRTccPo4Bg-00722-00135336-00135535 flying corps brought down over _aRTccPo4Bg-00723-00135536-00135759 mesopotamia in 1915 _aRTccPo4Bg-00724-00135760-00135911 white spent three years a prisoner of _aRTccPo4Bg-00725-00135912-00136095 war of the turks and was the only _aRTccPo4Bg-00726-00136096-00136263 australian officer to escape turkish _aRTccPo4Bg-00727-00136264-00136439 captivity _aRTccPo4Bg-00728-00136440-00136614 another was jim fairburne the minister _aRTccPo4Bg-00729-00136615-00136863 for civil aviation in the city _aRTccPo4Bg-00730-00136864-00137095 in the second menzies ministry who had _aRTccPo4Bg-00731-00137096-00137278 served as a pilot in the royal flying _aRTccPo4Bg-00732-00137279-00137471 corps in the great war _aRTccPo4Bg-00733-00137472-00137671 ferben was bought down near comrae in _aRTccPo4Bg-00734-00137672-00137919 february 1917 when his aircraft was set _aRTccPo4Bg-00735-00137920-00138183 upon by a yasser of german scouts _aRTccPo4Bg-00736-00138184-00138375 with his arms with his arm and aircraft _aRTccPo4Bg-00737-00138376-00138535 shredded by machine gun fire _aRTccPo4Bg-00738-00138536-00138790 and his face badly burnt fairban crash _aRTccPo4Bg-00739-00138791-00138959 landed on the other side of nerdman's _aRTccPo4Bg-00740-00138960-00139111 land and spent the following 12 months _aRTccPo4Bg-00741-00139112-00139471 in a prisoner war camp in germany _aRTccPo4Bg-00742-00139472-00139614 at least one third of senators and _aRTccPo4Bg-00743-00139615-00139790 members in federal politics in the late _aRTccPo4Bg-00744-00139791-00140023 1940s were first world war veterans _aRTccPo4Bg-00745-00140024-00140199 but it's very important to recognize _aRTccPo4Bg-00746-00140200-00140366 that the conflict also shaped the lives _aRTccPo4Bg-00747-00140367-00140399 of _aRTccPo4Bg-00748-00140400-00140614 of some of australia's first female _aRTccPo4Bg-00749-00140615-00140799 politicians _aRTccPo4Bg-00750-00140800-00140935 although australian women had the right _aRTccPo4Bg-00751-00140936-00141078 to vote and be nominated for federal _aRTccPo4Bg-00752-00141079-00141254 election in 1903 _aRTccPo4Bg-00753-00141255-00141390 and some had the right to stand in the _aRTccPo4Bg-00754-00141391-00141623 legislative assembly by 1914 _aRTccPo4Bg-00755-00141624-00141790 it was not until after the first world _aRTccPo4Bg-00756-00141791-00141951 war that the first female members of _aRTccPo4Bg-00757-00141952-00142231 parliament were elected _aRTccPo4Bg-00758-00142232-00142383 a strong advocate for the suffrage _aRTccPo4Bg-00759-00142384-00142590 movement in women's rights and welfare _aRTccPo4Bg-00760-00142591-00142783 edith cowan was the first woman elected _aRTccPo4Bg-00761-00142784-00142951 to an australian parliament after her _aRTccPo4Bg-00762-00142952-00143247 victory in west australia in 1920 _aRTccPo4Bg-00763-00143248-00143414 during the war years cowan had worked _aRTccPo4Bg-00764-00143415-00143543 for a number of patriotic and _aRTccPo4Bg-00765-00143544-00143775 humanitarian aid organisations _aRTccPo4Bg-00766-00143776-00143951 which included the australian red cross _aRTccPo4Bg-00767-00143952-00144126 society for which she helped with _aRTccPo4Bg-00768-00144127-00144295 fundraising and started up the welcome _aRTccPo4Bg-00769-00144296-00144511 home for returned soldiers _aRTccPo4Bg-00770-00144512-00144735 for this cowan was awarded an obe after _aRTccPo4Bg-00771-00144736-00144814 the war _aRTccPo4Bg-00772-00144815-00145014 but during it she was an ardent _aRTccPo4Bg-00773-00145015-00145207 pro-conscription campaigner and an _aRTccPo4Bg-00774-00145208-00145343 active member of the perth recruiting _aRTccPo4Bg-00775-00145344-00145526 committee _aRTccPo4Bg-00776-00145527-00145719 red cross work played a crucial role in _aRTccPo4Bg-00777-00145720-00145887 involving women in the war effort _aRTccPo4Bg-00778-00145888-00146119 and in public life but the war also had _aRTccPo4Bg-00779-00146120-00146295 a profound effect on women like ivy _aRTccPo4Bg-00780-00146296-00146351 weber _aRTccPo4Bg-00781-00146352-00146519 the first woman elected as a in the _aRTccPo4Bg-00782-00146520-00146678 general election in victoria _aRTccPo4Bg-00783-00146679-00146854 whose whose war years were spent _aRTccPo4Bg-00784-00146855-00147102 maintaining family and home _aRTccPo4Bg-00785-00147103-00147271 long before she entered politics in the _aRTccPo4Bg-00786-00147272-00147519 1930s weber received the devastating _aRTccPo4Bg-00787-00147520-00147678 news that her husband lieutenant thomas _aRTccPo4Bg-00788-00147679-00147847 mitchell of the 59th battalion _aRTccPo4Bg-00789-00147848-00148414 had been killed in action nearby palm _aRTccPo4Bg-00790-00148415-00148559 just like any other community in _aRTccPo4Bg-00791-00148560-00148766 australia at the time the first world _aRTccPo4Bg-00792-00148767-00148966 war had a very significant impact _aRTccPo4Bg-00793-00148967-00149151 on the personal and private lives of a _aRTccPo4Bg-00794-00149152-00149423 number of state and federal politicians _aRTccPo4Bg-00795-00149424-00149639 whose sense of patriotism duty and _aRTccPo4Bg-00796-00149640-00149783 loyalty to the empire _aRTccPo4Bg-00797-00149784-00149959 led them to become active participants _aRTccPo4Bg-00798-00149960-00150166 in the first world war _aRTccPo4Bg-00799-00150167-00150399 some led by example not wanting to hide _aRTccPo4Bg-00800-00150400-00150583 behind the excuse of public position to _aRTccPo4Bg-00801-00150584-00150687 shirk their duty _aRTccPo4Bg-00802-00150688-00150854 and do what many political figures were _aRTccPo4Bg-00803-00150855-00151023 expecting of other men _aRTccPo4Bg-00804-00151024-00151223 while others with extensive experience _aRTccPo4Bg-00805-00151224-00151335 in raising _aRTccPo4Bg-00806-00151336-00151551 training and commanding soldiers helped _aRTccPo4Bg-00807-00151552-00151743 raise a voluntary army that served with _aRTccPo4Bg-00808-00151744-00151878 distinction on gallipoli and _aRTccPo4Bg-00809-00151879-00152254 sino-palestine and on the western front _aRTccPo4Bg-00810-00152255-00152390 perhaps one of the reasons why their _aRTccPo4Bg-00811-00152391-00152590 story remains little known in australia _aRTccPo4Bg-00812-00152591-00152766 is the fact that no one memorial _aRTccPo4Bg-00813-00152767-00152951 recognizes the service and sacrifice _aRTccPo4Bg-00814-00152952-00153143 made by both state and federal mps _aRTccPo4Bg-00815-00153144-00153359 during the first world war _aRTccPo4Bg-00816-00153360-00153559 the three serving mps who died in the _aRTccPo4Bg-00817-00153560-00153735 war are commemorated on the bronze _aRTccPo4Bg-00818-00153736-00153871 cloisters of the role of honour in the _aRTccPo4Bg-00819-00153872-00154014 australian war memorial _aRTccPo4Bg-00820-00154015-00154295 alongside 102 000 other men australian _aRTccPo4Bg-00821-00154296-00154463 men and women who died on active service _aRTccPo4Bg-00822-00154464-00154678 since before the boer war _aRTccPo4Bg-00823-00154679-00154911 but these men appear without distinction _aRTccPo4Bg-00824-00154912-00155063 rank or profession that points to the _aRTccPo4Bg-00825-00155064-00155247 very unique community to which they _aRTccPo4Bg-00826-00155248-00155399 belonged _aRTccPo4Bg-00827-00155400-00155599 one of the very few memorials is a small _aRTccPo4Bg-00828-00155600-00155807 tablet to ted larkin and george braun in _aRTccPo4Bg-00829-00155808-00155943 the new south wales parliamentary _aRTccPo4Bg-00830-00155944-00156007 chamber _aRTccPo4Bg-00831-00156008-00156247 which was unveiled in november 1915 and _aRTccPo4Bg-00832-00156248-00156454 is still there today _aRTccPo4Bg-00833-00156455-00156623 the inscription thereon reminds us that _aRTccPo4Bg-00834-00156624-00156775 the first world war had a long _aRTccPo4Bg-00835-00156776-00156975 long lasting and very significant impact _aRTccPo4Bg-00836-00156976-00157143 on the lives of all australians _aRTccPo4Bg-00837-00157144-00157423 which included those in public office on _aRTccPo4Bg-00838-00157424-00157519 it it says _aRTccPo4Bg-00839-00157520-00157687 in times of peace they readily asserted _aRTccPo4Bg-00840-00157688-00157847 the rights of citizenship _aRTccPo4Bg-00841-00157848-00158007 in the time of war they fiercely _aRTccPo4Bg-00842-00158008-00159007 protected it thank you _aRTccPo4Bg-00843-00159008-00159278 thanks so much aaron um we do have uh _aRTccPo4Bg-00844-00159279-00159495 some roving microphones available if _aRTccPo4Bg-00845-00159496-00159599 people do want to _aRTccPo4Bg-00846-00159600-00159935 uh address any questions to aaron on his _aRTccPo4Bg-00847-00159936-00160143 contribution today i think we have a _aRTccPo4Bg-00848-00160144-00160695 volunteer here tim _aRTccPo4Bg-00849-00160696-00160902 my name is graeme o'lachlan my _aRTccPo4Bg-00850-00160903-00161047 grandfather's the _aRTccPo4Bg-00851-00161048-00161239 senator that you referred to from south _aRTccPo4Bg-00852-00161240-00161351 australia _aRTccPo4Bg-00853-00161352-00161663 welcome you somehow _aRTccPo4Bg-00854-00161664-00161847 inferred i think that he was shamed into _aRTccPo4Bg-00855-00161848-00161990 it which i think _aRTccPo4Bg-00856-00161991-00162175 maybe i read that inferred that wrongly _aRTccPo4Bg-00857-00162176-00162471 but it sounded like that _aRTccPo4Bg-00858-00162472-00162687 he was you didn't mention that he was 62 _aRTccPo4Bg-00859-00162688-00162854 at the time _aRTccPo4Bg-00860-00162855-00162999 which makes it a bit difficult for him _aRTccPo4Bg-00861-00163000-00163159 to be embarrassed about uh _aRTccPo4Bg-00862-00163160-00163447 yeah about not going yeah um he did _aRTccPo4Bg-00863-00163448-00163631 prevail upon the minister of defense to _aRTccPo4Bg-00864-00163632-00163790 allow him to go _aRTccPo4Bg-00865-00163791-00163959 and he was eventually put in command of _aRTccPo4Bg-00866-00163960-00164102 a troop ship _aRTccPo4Bg-00867-00164103-00164271 appointed a lieutenant colonel and did _aRTccPo4Bg-00868-00164272-00164519 two trips to egypt at the age of 62 as a _aRTccPo4Bg-00869-00164520-00164631 serving senator _aRTccPo4Bg-00870-00164632-00164854 yeah oh look by by no means that that _aRTccPo4Bg-00871-00164855-00165014 inference uh that he was somehow _aRTccPo4Bg-00872-00165015-00165223 shamed is not correct no i think uh his _aRTccPo4Bg-00873-00165224-00165390 remarks to the defense minister really _aRTccPo4Bg-00874-00165391-00165511 points to the fact that he _aRTccPo4Bg-00875-00165512-00165663 among many politicians felt their _aRTccPo4Bg-00876-00165664-00165871 patriotic duty and i believe that he _aRTccPo4Bg-00877-00165872-00165990 also had a had a very _aRTccPo4Bg-00878-00165991-00166119 distinguished career in the in the _aRTccPo4Bg-00879-00166120-00166287 militia beforehand which may have _aRTccPo4Bg-00880-00166288-00166438 actually shaped his views that if there _aRTccPo4Bg-00881-00166439-00166487 was a _aRTccPo4Bg-00882-00166488-00166678 a to be absurd if he was to be of _aRTccPo4Bg-00883-00166679-00166854 service he certainly was _aRTccPo4Bg-00884-00166855-00166999 he was certainly wanting to go _aRTccPo4Bg-00885-00167000-00167254 irrespective of his age _aRTccPo4Bg-00886-00167255-00167383 that is quite true he was an _aRTccPo4Bg-00887-00167384-00167599 enthusiastic volunteer in the military _aRTccPo4Bg-00888-00167600-00167790 forces in south australia _aRTccPo4Bg-00889-00167791-00168143 both before and after federation _aRTccPo4Bg-00890-00168144-00168319 and uh at one point i think commanded _aRTccPo4Bg-00891-00168320-00168454 the adelaide rifles _aRTccPo4Bg-00892-00168455-00168854 right wonderful _aRTccPo4Bg-00893-00168855-00169031 got another down here in front of you _aRTccPo4Bg-00894-00169032-00169159 tim but i think we've got a _aRTccPo4Bg-00895-00169160-00169447 did we have a question on this side i _aRTccPo4Bg-00896-00169448-00169526 presume that _aRTccPo4Bg-00897-00169527-00169863 the members of parliament concerned uh _aRTccPo4Bg-00898-00169864-00170054 kept their positions in parliament while _aRTccPo4Bg-00899-00170055-00170199 serving and that they would have _aRTccPo4Bg-00900-00170200-00170390 received uh leave of absence _aRTccPo4Bg-00901-00170391-00170663 what arrangements were typically made _aRTccPo4Bg-00902-00170664-00170895 for dealing with constituent affairs and _aRTccPo4Bg-00903-00170896-00171263 for campaigning in elections this is an _aRTccPo4Bg-00904-00171264-00171351 issue that i _aRTccPo4Bg-00905-00171352-00171502 i really couldn't get my hand i have to _aRTccPo4Bg-00906-00171503-00171663 admit i really couldn't get my head _aRTccPo4Bg-00907-00171664-00171735 around _aRTccPo4Bg-00908-00171736-00172031 um but the the men who who did enlist in _aRTccPo4Bg-00909-00172032-00172119 the aif _aRTccPo4Bg-00910-00172120-00172254 they seem to be they appear to be from _aRTccPo4Bg-00911-00172255-00172407 very safe seats they weren't going to be _aRTccPo4Bg-00912-00172408-00172607 contested _aRTccPo4Bg-00913-00172608-00172863 i haven't found any example uh examples _aRTccPo4Bg-00914-00172864-00172966 of it in the _aRTccPo4Bg-00915-00172967-00173087 australian experience but certainly in _aRTccPo4Bg-00916-00173088-00173238 new zealand there were there were two _aRTccPo4Bg-00917-00173239-00173375 members of parliament who _aRTccPo4Bg-00918-00173376-00173566 from opposite sides of their house that _aRTccPo4Bg-00919-00173567-00173719 agreed to pair _aRTccPo4Bg-00920-00173720-00173926 during the war does not affect uh the _aRTccPo4Bg-00921-00173927-00174038 voting numbers _aRTccPo4Bg-00922-00174039-00174190 um but in terms of actually dealing with _aRTccPo4Bg-00923-00174191-00174375 uh local affairs um _aRTccPo4Bg-00924-00174376-00174638 i i really get the sense that it was it _aRTccPo4Bg-00925-00174639-00174766 was done from afar _aRTccPo4Bg-00926-00174767-00174959 uh which as was the case and these men _aRTccPo4Bg-00927-00174960-00175151 did actually take a leap of absence _aRTccPo4Bg-00928-00175152-00175423 um it's uh it's certainly it's an issue _aRTccPo4Bg-00929-00175424-00175543 that i'm going to have to take on notice _aRTccPo4Bg-00930-00175544-00175583 but _aRTccPo4Bg-00931-00175584-00175726 it's it's just something that that just _aRTccPo4Bg-00932-00175727-00175926 that just works um these um _aRTccPo4Bg-00933-00175927-00176207 i get the sense that uh men who go after _aRTccPo4Bg-00934-00176208-00176271 the war _aRTccPo4Bg-00935-00176272-00176487 uh you know have occupied safe seats _aRTccPo4Bg-00936-00176488-00176687 that they're in a safe position because _aRTccPo4Bg-00937-00176688-00176735 uh _aRTccPo4Bg-00938-00176736-00176895 you know their constituencies if they're _aRTccPo4Bg-00939-00176896-00177102 backing them fully 100 _aRTccPo4Bg-00940-00177103-00177238 no one's going to contest their seats _aRTccPo4Bg-00941-00177239-00177423 it's it's almost seen as being disloyal _aRTccPo4Bg-00942-00177424-00177583 or unpatriotic _aRTccPo4Bg-00943-00177584-00177711 but in terms of how they manage their _aRTccPo4Bg-00944-00177712-00177902 constituencies i'm going to have to _aRTccPo4Bg-00945-00177903-00178302 get back to you on that one _aRTccPo4Bg-00946-00178303-00178478 did we have some other questions i can't _aRTccPo4Bg-00947-00178479-00178711 actually see in the in the glow right up _aRTccPo4Bg-00948-00178712-00179126 the back there _aRTccPo4Bg-00949-00179127-00179407 thanks hi i was just wondering if you've _aRTccPo4Bg-00950-00179408-00179478 detected _aRTccPo4Bg-00951-00179479-00179831 uh any kind of pattern um _aRTccPo4Bg-00952-00179832-00180014 from the people who did enlist who were _aRTccPo4Bg-00953-00180015-00180231 serving as mps as to whether or not _aRTccPo4Bg-00954-00180232-00180454 um they were predominantly _aRTccPo4Bg-00955-00180455-00180607 pro-conscription or predominantly _aRTccPo4Bg-00956-00180608-00180775 anti-conscription and whether or not _aRTccPo4Bg-00957-00180776-00180919 that sort of tells you something about _aRTccPo4Bg-00958-00180920-00181166 the political climate at the time _aRTccPo4Bg-00959-00181167-00181302 the the very interesting thing about _aRTccPo4Bg-00960-00181303-00181463 conscription the two conscription _aRTccPo4Bg-00961-00181464-00181551 referenda _aRTccPo4Bg-00962-00181552-00181975 is that it does polarize australia _aRTccPo4Bg-00963-00181976-00182247 but in no way uh there's there's no sort _aRTccPo4Bg-00964-00182248-00182375 of argument about whether or not _aRTccPo4Bg-00965-00182376-00182543 australia should be involved in the war _aRTccPo4Bg-00966-00182544-00182695 it's about whether or not men should be _aRTccPo4Bg-00967-00182696-00182887 going under their own volition _aRTccPo4Bg-00968-00182888-00183190 um there isn't there isn't a pattern um _aRTccPo4Bg-00969-00183191-00183343 i sort of get the sense that even though _aRTccPo4Bg-00970-00183344-00183583 there are pro and anti-conscriptionists _aRTccPo4Bg-00971-00183584-00183638 that _aRTccPo4Bg-00972-00183639-00183838 these the men who still feel patriotic _aRTccPo4Bg-00973-00183839-00184014 patriotic and certain feel compelled to _aRTccPo4Bg-00974-00184015-00184151 enlist they do so _aRTccPo4Bg-00975-00184152-00184471 for one reason or the other um so yeah _aRTccPo4Bg-00976-00184472-00184647 there isn't there isn't a pattern that i _aRTccPo4Bg-00977-00184648-00184766 can detect and that's probably because _aRTccPo4Bg-00978-00184767-00184935 there's only this very small _aRTccPo4Bg-00979-00184936-00185247 percentage of of men who enlist as well _aRTccPo4Bg-00980-00185248-00185366 as serving members _aRTccPo4Bg-00981-00185367-00185502 um but certainly it's an interesting _aRTccPo4Bg-00982-00185503-00185895 question that we can probably ponder on _aRTccPo4Bg-00983-00185896-00187047 we had one further down the front here _aRTccPo4Bg-00984-00187048-00187247 you indicated at the start of your _aRTccPo4Bg-00985-00187248-00187390 address that _aRTccPo4Bg-00986-00187391-00187783 the the age limit on enlistment was 35. _aRTccPo4Bg-00987-00187784-00187950 there was a significant number of uh _aRTccPo4Bg-00988-00187951-00188271 of mps eventually fought where virtually _aRTccPo4Bg-00989-00188272-00188343 all of them _aRTccPo4Bg-00990-00188344-00188647 only enlisted after that age was relaxed _aRTccPo4Bg-00991-00188648-00188919 or did some of them tell a few lies _aRTccPo4Bg-00992-00188920-00189119 well there's a few things some some _aRTccPo4Bg-00993-00189120-00189343 evidently did tell a few lies and if we _aRTccPo4Bg-00994-00189344-00189526 take the example william johnson is the _aRTccPo4Bg-00995-00189527-00189583 former _aRTccPo4Bg-00996-00189584-00189878 uh member of parliament labor mp who who _aRTccPo4Bg-00997-00189879-00189999 was killed at posiere _aRTccPo4Bg-00998-00190000-00190278 i think he was in his mid 19 mid 50s and _aRTccPo4Bg-00999-00190279-00190471 he would have enlisted in 1914 _aRTccPo4Bg-01000-00190472-00190614 so i think there's a few porkies being _aRTccPo4Bg-01001-00190615-00190799 telled there um _aRTccPo4Bg-01002-00190800-00191007 you also get us there also there is also _aRTccPo4Bg-01003-00191008-00191238 the increasing age limit uh as the war _aRTccPo4Bg-01004-00191239-00191335 progresses _aRTccPo4Bg-01005-00191336-00191495 um certainly the men who enlisted in _aRTccPo4Bg-01006-00191496-00191687 1914 were among the fittest and _aRTccPo4Bg-01007-00191688-00191878 strongest at the aif fielded during the _aRTccPo4Bg-01008-00191879-00191966 war _aRTccPo4Bg-01009-00191967-00192126 but that all changes once we all go to _aRTccPo4Bg-01010-00192127-00192271 the western front when we have this _aRTccPo4Bg-01011-00192272-00192399 struggle to try and maintain _aRTccPo4Bg-01012-00192400-00192535 reinforcement quotas _aRTccPo4Bg-01013-00192536-00192775 so the age limit does bump up and there _aRTccPo4Bg-01014-00192776-00192887 is there is also _aRTccPo4Bg-01015-00192888-00193119 and that enables a number of mps to to _aRTccPo4Bg-01016-00193120-00193190 to come _aRTccPo4Bg-01017-00193191-00193447 to to enlist but there is there is a _aRTccPo4Bg-01018-00193448-00193583 sense that uh in certainly on the _aRTccPo4Bg-01019-00193584-00193654 federal level _aRTccPo4Bg-01020-00193655-00193807 and this gets back to your question as _aRTccPo4Bg-01021-00193808-00193983 well that _aRTccPo4Bg-01022-00193984-00194214 once uh once uh you know the outcome of _aRTccPo4Bg-01023-00194215-00194390 the 1917 federal election ultimately _aRTccPo4Bg-01024-00194391-00194550 decides for some people _aRTccPo4Bg-01025-00194551-00194775 uh whether they should enlist or not uh _aRTccPo4Bg-01026-00194776-00194943 there's the case of _aRTccPo4Bg-01027-00194944-00195183 uh the fellow who is defeated by hughes _aRTccPo4Bg-01028-00195184-00195263 for example _aRTccPo4Bg-01029-00195264-00195511 um even though he's tried before um you _aRTccPo4Bg-01030-00195512-00195695 know the election in 1917 is certainly _aRTccPo4Bg-01031-00195696-00195759 something that _aRTccPo4Bg-01032-00195760-00195983 you know there's a great impetus so _aRTccPo4Bg-01033-00195984-00196095 that's another thing _aRTccPo4Bg-01034-00196096-00196295 as long as the war continues the age _aRTccPo4Bg-01035-00196296-00196438 limit sort of gets bumped up and more _aRTccPo4Bg-01036-00196439-00196590 men have sort of been drawn in _aRTccPo4Bg-01037-00196591-00196823 um there's also the issue of the the _aRTccPo4Bg-01038-00196824-00196983 militia the militiamen who were serving _aRTccPo4Bg-01039-00196984-00197207 in in politic in politics at the time _aRTccPo4Bg-01040-00197208-00197343 you know these men are you know they're _aRTccPo4Bg-01041-00197344-00197511 born war veterans they've commanded _aRTccPo4Bg-01042-00197512-00197599 they've commanded their _aRTccPo4Bg-01043-00197600-00197878 their regiments irrespective of their of _aRTccPo4Bg-01044-00197879-00198063 their age that they kept their fine and _aRTccPo4Bg-01045-00198064-00198183 capable officers _aRTccPo4Bg-01046-00198184-00198295 which at the time the australian _aRTccPo4Bg-01047-00198296-00198495 imperial forces simply doesn't have _aRTccPo4Bg-01048-00198496-00198671 uh this is an all-volunteer army that's _aRTccPo4Bg-01049-00198672-00198823 just been formed for the _aRTccPo4Bg-01050-00198824-00199023 exclusive purpose of serving overseas in _aRTccPo4Bg-01051-00199024-00199254 the great war and it needs commanders _aRTccPo4Bg-01052-00199255-00199438 so there are there are certainly men uh _aRTccPo4Bg-01053-00199439-00199599 such as such as ryrie _aRTccPo4Bg-01054-00199600-00199759 uh for example i think he's in he's in _aRTccPo4Bg-01055-00199760-00199902 his 50s uh _aRTccPo4Bg-01056-00199903-00200119 on the eve of the first world war uh so _aRTccPo4Bg-01057-00200120-00200254 there is there is a number of factors _aRTccPo4Bg-01058-00200255-00200431 that that sort of there are at play _aRTccPo4Bg-01059-00200432-00200471 there _aRTccPo4Bg-01060-00200472-00200647 but certainly the age age requirements _aRTccPo4Bg-01061-00200648-00200895 in 1914 you know ted larkin was among a _aRTccPo4Bg-01062-00200896-00201271 very few who would have fit them _aRTccPo4Bg-01063-00201272-00201526 okay i think that uh that takes up our _aRTccPo4Bg-01064-00201527-00201726 uh our quota of questions for _aRTccPo4Bg-01065-00201727-00202063 today um just before we close here i'll _aRTccPo4Bg-01066-00202064-00202143 just uh _aRTccPo4Bg-01067-00202144-00202295 let you know the next lecture that we've _aRTccPo4Bg-01068-00202296-00202511 got is on the 29th of may _aRTccPo4Bg-01069-00202512-00202863 um here in the theater 2015 is the 60th _aRTccPo4Bg-01070-00202864-00202990 anniversary of the _aRTccPo4Bg-01071-00202991-00203207 fitzpatrick and brown affair which is _aRTccPo4Bg-01072-00203208-00203390 the only time that the _aRTccPo4Bg-01073-00203391-00203511 australian parliament the house of _aRTccPo4Bg-01074-00203512-00203759 representatives in fact has uh _aRTccPo4Bg-01075-00203760-00204031 jailed someone using its parliamentary _aRTccPo4Bg-01076-00204032-00204254 privilege powers so we're having dr _aRTccPo4Bg-01077-00204255-00204423 andrew moore come to _aRTccPo4Bg-01078-00204424-00204678 give us a presentation about that but uh _aRTccPo4Bg-01079-00204679-00204862 if you'd like to join me in thanking _aRTccPo4Bg-01080-00204863-00205038 aaron pelgram in coming along today to _aRTccPo4Bg-01081-00205039-00205182 present our lecture _aRTccPo4Bg-01082-00205183-00205446 thank you very much thanks very much _aRTccPo4Bg-01083-00205448-00205522 everyone _aRTccPo4Bg-01084-00205523-00205882 [Applause] _aRTccPo4Bg-01085-00205883-00206310 cheers _aRTccPo4Bg-01086-00206311-00206519 you _bQOBhVUOX8-00000-00000056-00000976 [Music] _bQOBhVUOX8-00001-00000977-00001503 [Music] _bQOBhVUOX8-00002-00001504-00001679 i'm john damaris the director of _bQOBhVUOX8-00003-00001680-00001887 operations for civil air patrol and _bQOBhVUOX8-00004-00001888-00002087 uh this morning myself and two of my _bQOBhVUOX8-00005-00002088-00002367 staff officers uh eric templeton at my _bQOBhVUOX8-00006-00002368-00002583 senior program manager for operations _bQOBhVUOX8-00007-00002584-00002663 training _bQOBhVUOX8-00008-00002664-00002871 and austin worcester my senior program _bQOBhVUOX8-00009-00002872-00003015 manager for small uas _bQOBhVUOX8-00010-00003016-00003206 operations as well as aeronet we're _bQOBhVUOX8-00011-00003207-00003431 going to provide you an overview of our _bQOBhVUOX8-00012-00003432-00003535 imagery collection _bQOBhVUOX8-00013-00003536-00003759 capabilities for pre-event response and _bQOBhVUOX8-00014-00003760-00003854 recovery _bQOBhVUOX8-00015-00003855-00004054 uh in support of the nafta conference _bQOBhVUOX8-00016-00004055-00004191 the inspire conference so _bQOBhVUOX8-00017-00004192-00004319 we're looking forward to briefing you _bQOBhVUOX8-00018-00004320-00004438 here this morning and then they won't _bQOBhVUOX8-00019-00004439-00004631 let jump right into it so let me share _bQOBhVUOX8-00020-00004632-00005102 my screen _bQOBhVUOX8-00021-00005103-00005343 let's press ahead and a civil air patrol _bQOBhVUOX8-00022-00005344-00005454 that has _bQOBhVUOX8-00023-00005455-00005583 three congressional missions we're going _bQOBhVUOX8-00024-00005584-00005806 to focus on the first one here today of _bQOBhVUOX8-00025-00005807-00005967 emergency services _bQOBhVUOX8-00026-00005968-00006215 uh you'll probably know us primarily for _bQOBhVUOX8-00027-00006216-00006375 search and rescue and disaster relief _bQOBhVUOX8-00028-00006376-00006559 but civil air patrol actually has a lot _bQOBhVUOX8-00029-00006559-00006742 of other missions that supports _bQOBhVUOX8-00030-00006743-00006910 a lot of homeland security drug _bQOBhVUOX8-00031-00006911-00007119 interdiction and kind of drug operations _bQOBhVUOX8-00032-00007120-00007334 we also do a lot of support for other _bQOBhVUOX8-00033-00007336-00007542 air force programs like air force rotc _bQOBhVUOX8-00034-00007543-00007695 and junior rotc _bQOBhVUOX8-00035-00007695-00007863 uh and they support a lot of missions _bQOBhVUOX8-00036-00007864-00008031 behind the scenes that you may not be _bQOBhVUOX8-00037-00008031-00008183 aware of and we'll cover some of those _bQOBhVUOX8-00038-00008184-00008335 here today for you _bQOBhVUOX8-00039-00008336-00008614 uh also part of our mission is i we run _bQOBhVUOX8-00040-00008615-00008742 a cadet program _bQOBhVUOX8-00041-00008743-00008887 uh i'm actually a former civil air _bQOBhVUOX8-00042-00008888-00009127 patrol cadet myself and the the cp cadet _bQOBhVUOX8-00043-00009128-00009199 program _bQOBhVUOX8-00044-00009200-00009446 uh really that gets our cadets involved _bQOBhVUOX8-00045-00009447-00009639 in aviation from the beginning _bQOBhVUOX8-00046-00009640-00009839 but is very similar to a lot of other _bQOBhVUOX8-00047-00009840-00010006 youth programs like boy scouts and girl _bQOBhVUOX8-00048-00010007-00010055 scouts _bQOBhVUOX8-00049-00010056-00010183 provides a lot of leadership and _bQOBhVUOX8-00050-00010184-00010359 character development has a physical _bQOBhVUOX8-00051-00010360-00010487 fitness program _bQOBhVUOX8-00052-00010488-00010638 but something for you to be aware of is _bQOBhVUOX8-00053-00010639-00010823 that our cats are also actively involved _bQOBhVUOX8-00054-00010824-00010942 in our emergency services and _bQOBhVUOX8-00055-00010943-00011119 operational missions too _bQOBhVUOX8-00056-00011120-00011367 and our cadets range in age from 12 _bQOBhVUOX8-00057-00011368-00011599 years old until they turn 21 _bQOBhVUOX8-00058-00011600-00011767 so some of them it may be older than _bQOBhVUOX8-00059-00011768-00011910 some of the adults in the military that _bQOBhVUOX8-00060-00011911-00012135 you may be dealing with ironically _bQOBhVUOX8-00061-00012136-00012287 and then we also have an aerospace _bQOBhVUOX8-00062-00012288-00012527 education mission civil air patrol that _bQOBhVUOX8-00063-00012528-00012719 provides aerospace education training to _bQOBhVUOX8-00064-00012720-00012830 our cadets _bQOBhVUOX8-00065-00012831-00013038 as well as to our adult members and then _bQOBhVUOX8-00066-00013039-00013230 we also have external outreach programs _bQOBhVUOX8-00067-00013231-00013399 reaching out to teachers and the general _bQOBhVUOX8-00068-00013400-00013471 public _bQOBhVUOX8-00069-00013472-00013655 and do things operationally with them _bQOBhVUOX8-00070-00013656-00013830 like teacher orientation flights as well _bQOBhVUOX8-00071-00013831-00013991 as providing a lot of hands-on _bQOBhVUOX8-00072-00013991-00014158 activities that forward for _bQOBhVUOX8-00073-00014159-00014438 cadets and youth to get them engaged in _bQOBhVUOX8-00074-00014440-00014622 ammunition _bQOBhVUOX8-00075-00014623-00014751 civil air patrol's been around since _bQOBhVUOX8-00076-00014752-00014927 december 1st 1941 _bQOBhVUOX8-00077-00014928-00015255 and our admissions are _bQOBhVUOX8-00078-00015256-00015494 really not changed a lot over the years _bQOBhVUOX8-00079-00015495-00015719 uh in terms of the the types of missions _bQOBhVUOX8-00080-00015719-00015799 that we do _bQOBhVUOX8-00081-00015800-00015983 but obviously the tools and resources _bQOBhVUOX8-00082-00015984-00016111 have changed _bQOBhVUOX8-00083-00016112-00016311 dramatically over the years civil air _bQOBhVUOX8-00084-00016312-00016503 patrol is actually uh _bQOBhVUOX8-00085-00016504-00016671 a part of the total force for the air _bQOBhVUOX8-00086-00016672-00016847 force uh and they _bQOBhVUOX8-00087-00016848-00017055 we actually became a part of the air _bQOBhVUOX8-00088-00017056-00017215 force as the auxiliary of the air force _bQOBhVUOX8-00089-00017216-00017367 in 1948 _bQOBhVUOX8-00090-00017368-00017591 uh but they were actually a non-profit _bQOBhVUOX8-00091-00017592-00017767 chartered by congress _bQOBhVUOX8-00092-00017768-00018007 traditionally day to day uh and they you _bQOBhVUOX8-00093-00018008-00018183 know all of these core missions they _bQOBhVUOX8-00094-00018184-00018358 have been around for a long time for us _bQOBhVUOX8-00095-00018359-00018599 but they have really changed all right _bQOBhVUOX8-00096-00018600-00018711 when you look at our _bQOBhVUOX8-00097-00018712-00018967 missions today the resources that we're _bQOBhVUOX8-00098-00018968-00019143 using have changed a lot over the last _bQOBhVUOX8-00099-00019144-00019271 couple of decades _bQOBhVUOX8-00100-00019272-00019463 you know we started fielding that uh _bQOBhVUOX8-00101-00019464-00019694 satellite digital imaging systems and _bQOBhVUOX8-00102-00019695-00019911 being able to downlink it from heyho _bQOBhVUOX8-00103-00019912-00020055 cameras from the airplanes back in the _bQOBhVUOX8-00104-00020056-00020199 early 2000s _bQOBhVUOX8-00105-00020200-00020399 then we fielded hyperspectral imaging _bQOBhVUOX8-00106-00020400-00020503 systems _bQOBhVUOX8-00107-00020504-00020719 uh we started equipping airplanes with _bQOBhVUOX8-00108-00020720-00021030 mx15 sensors in 2009 _bQOBhVUOX8-00109-00021031-00021207 uh we've actually they've been working _bQOBhVUOX8-00110-00021208-00021375 with the jeep and dart systems which _bQOBhVUOX8-00111-00021376-00021503 you'll learn a little bit more about _bQOBhVUOX8-00112-00021504-00021799 year later in the briefing in 2010 _bQOBhVUOX8-00113-00021800-00021958 and then we actually had wings start _bQOBhVUOX8-00114-00021959-00022255 midfielding flare systems in 2011 _bQOBhVUOX8-00115-00022256-00022399 which we're going to be putting a lot of _bQOBhVUOX8-00116-00022400-00022583 them on airplanes across the country _bQOBhVUOX8-00117-00022584-00022839 over the next decade we've been feeling _bQOBhVUOX8-00118-00022840-00022927 that _bQOBhVUOX8-00119-00022928-00023103 verb kits from it for nader collection _bQOBhVUOX8-00120-00023104-00023278 since 2014 _bQOBhVUOX8-00121-00023279-00023471 uh and we've actually started building _bQOBhVUOX8-00122-00023472-00023775 small uas systems in 2015. _bQOBhVUOX8-00123-00023776-00023911 austin will tell you a little bit about _bQOBhVUOX8-00124-00023912-00024078 those here later in the _bQOBhVUOX8-00125-00024079-00024350 presentation as well uh and it hasn't _bQOBhVUOX8-00126-00024351-00024558 stopped there in 2018 we started _bQOBhVUOX8-00127-00024559-00024703 fielding that uh struct amount of _bQOBhVUOX8-00128-00024704-00024878 portable pod systems in _bQOBhVUOX8-00129-00024879-00025167 2020 we started fielding ground mounted _bQOBhVUOX8-00130-00025168-00025294 systems as well _bQOBhVUOX8-00131-00025295-00025583 as flying lidar and some small areas so _bQOBhVUOX8-00132-00025584-00025678 uh you know _bQOBhVUOX8-00133-00025679-00025927 this year and as we make go forward it's _bQOBhVUOX8-00134-00025927-00026062 you can expect that there'll be more and _bQOBhVUOX8-00135-00026063-00026127 more _bQOBhVUOX8-00136-00026127-00026302 systems getting fielded and this is _bQOBhVUOX8-00137-00026304-00026487 really baseline capability for us _bQOBhVUOX8-00138-00026488-00026639 is trying to make sure that we can _bQOBhVUOX8-00139-00026639-00026790 capture imagery and deliver for our _bQOBhVUOX8-00140-00026791-00027062 customers _bQOBhVUOX8-00141-00027063-00027295 legally the uh our legal authorities in _bQOBhVUOX8-00142-00027295-00027423 it are that _bQOBhVUOX8-00143-00027424-00027751 under title 36 that we actually serve as _bQOBhVUOX8-00144-00027752-00027911 a non-profit corporation _bQOBhVUOX8-00145-00027912-00028118 chartered by congress and then under _bQOBhVUOX8-00146-00028119-00028335 title 10 we service the auxiliary air _bQOBhVUOX8-00147-00028336-00028455 force so _bQOBhVUOX8-00148-00028456-00028679 legally we're always civil air patrol as _bQOBhVUOX8-00149-00028680-00028895 a non-profit corporation that but under _bQOBhVUOX8-00150-00028895-00029014 title 10 it _bQOBhVUOX8-00151-00029016-00029223 is when we're working most missions _bQOBhVUOX8-00152-00029224-00029483 which is about 80 percent of our flying _bQOBhVUOX8-00153-00029483-00029751 time and the the resources that we _bQOBhVUOX8-00154-00029752-00030031 are provided under title 10 uh are _bQOBhVUOX8-00155-00030032-00030111 pretty vast _bQOBhVUOX8-00156-00030112-00030255 you know that we're the largest single _bQOBhVUOX8-00157-00030256-00030470 owner of cessna airplanes in the world _bQOBhVUOX8-00158-00030472-00030639 uh we're also the largest owner of _bQOBhVUOX8-00159-00030639-00030807 gliders in the united states and we've _bQOBhVUOX8-00160-00030808-00031174 got 570 mid powered airplanes 47 gliders _bQOBhVUOX8-00161-00031175-00031374 we even have two hot air balloons uh _bQOBhVUOX8-00162-00031375-00031543 we've also got a ground vehicle fleet of _bQOBhVUOX8-00163-00031544-00031711 over a thousand vehicles across the _bQOBhVUOX8-00164-00031712-00031790 country _bQOBhVUOX8-00165-00031791-00031999 uh and then small uas we're probably the _bQOBhVUOX8-00166-00032000-00032167 largest owner of small uas _bQOBhVUOX8-00167-00032168-00032431 in the united states admit uh and you _bQOBhVUOX8-00168-00032432-00032607 know we may get eclipsed by the amazons _bQOBhVUOX8-00169-00032608-00032670 or the _bQOBhVUOX8-00170-00032672-00032823 some of the other delivery companies _bQOBhVUOX8-00171-00032824-00033102 going forward but for public safety uas _bQOBhVUOX8-00172-00033103-00033223 we're probably going to be the largest _bQOBhVUOX8-00173-00033224-00033415 for a long time we've got over 2 000 _bQOBhVUOX8-00174-00033416-00033559 small uas in play _bQOBhVUOX8-00175-00033560-00033751 both for operational purposes as well as _bQOBhVUOX8-00176-00033752-00033959 our educational programs _bQOBhVUOX8-00177-00033960-00034135 and then we also maintained a _bQOBhVUOX8-00178-00034136-00034318 communications fleet _bQOBhVUOX8-00179-00034319-00034599 that's about 35 million dollars across _bQOBhVUOX8-00180-00034600-00034687 the country _bQOBhVUOX8-00181-00034688-00034967 so pretty amazing capabilities supported _bQOBhVUOX8-00182-00034968-00035062 by _bQOBhVUOX8-00183-00035063-00035462 over 54 000 members across the country _bQOBhVUOX8-00184-00035463-00035630 when you look at our airplanes they're _bQOBhVUOX8-00185-00035631-00035799 spread out across the country _bQOBhVUOX8-00186-00035800-00035943 you know obviously when you look at the _bQOBhVUOX8-00187-00035944-00036127 map there's some gaps out there around _bQOBhVUOX8-00188-00036128-00036174 it _bQOBhVUOX8-00189-00036175-00036430 generally what we've been advertised is _bQOBhVUOX8-00190-00036431-00036590 that we can have an airplane overhead _bQOBhVUOX8-00191-00036591-00036759 within about two hours of mission _bQOBhVUOX8-00192-00036760-00036862 approval _bQOBhVUOX8-00193-00036863-00037143 on it in anywhere in the united states _bQOBhVUOX8-00194-00037144-00037230 uh and those _bQOBhVUOX8-00195-00037231-00037415 airplanes are pretty fast as we would _bQOBhVUOX8-00196-00037416-00037543 mentioned earlier _bQOBhVUOX8-00197-00037544-00037774 uh we are the the largest single on our _bQOBhVUOX8-00198-00037775-00037959 cessna airplanes as i mentioned it _bQOBhVUOX8-00199-00037960-00038174 but it's predominantly cessna 182's in _bQOBhVUOX8-00200-00038175-00038279 our fleet _bQOBhVUOX8-00201-00038280-00038471 and then we also have a large number of _bQOBhVUOX8-00202-00038472-00038695 that obsessed on 172's _bQOBhVUOX8-00203-00038696-00038918 uh we've also got some cessna 206's _bQOBhVUOX8-00204-00038919-00039143 primarily admit and mountainous knit and _bQOBhVUOX8-00205-00039144-00039374 terrains but we do have some emit every _bQOBhVUOX8-00206-00039375-00039567 region across the country _bQOBhVUOX8-00207-00039568-00039846 and then we've also got gippsland ga8s _bQOBhVUOX8-00208-00039847-00039927 we've got _bQOBhVUOX8-00209-00039928-00040102 several of them in alaska as well as _bQOBhVUOX8-00210-00040103-00040327 spread out across the united states and _bQOBhVUOX8-00211-00040328-00040815 in the continental united st _bQOBhVUOX8-00212-00040816-00040990 that are kind of specialized and we have _bQOBhVUOX8-00213-00040991-00041246 the cessna 185s up in alaska that are _bQOBhVUOX8-00214-00041247-00041439 as you can see in this picture we have _bQOBhVUOX8-00215-00041440-00041574 them equipped for floats and in the _bQOBhVUOX8-00216-00041575-00041702 winter time we actually have them _bQOBhVUOX8-00217-00041703-00041846 equipped for skis _bQOBhVUOX8-00218-00041847-00042135 uh and then the malls are primarily a _bQOBhVUOX8-00219-00042136-00042199 glider tow _bQOBhVUOX8-00220-00042200-00042479 aircraft so lots of capabilities across _bQOBhVUOX8-00221-00042480-00042679 the country for our airplanes _bQOBhVUOX8-00222-00042680-00042887 uh and i'm going to pass you over to _bQOBhVUOX8-00223-00042888-00043095 eric templeton here now to go into some _bQOBhVUOX8-00224-00043096-00043190 of our _bQOBhVUOX8-00225-00043191-00043662 imagery capabilities _bQOBhVUOX8-00226-00043663-00043967 hi this is eric templeton uh uh covering _bQOBhVUOX8-00227-00043968-00044079 aspects of uh _bQOBhVUOX8-00228-00044080-00044207 items that can be carried in the _bQOBhVUOX8-00229-00044208-00044423 aircraft and or used and deployed in the _bQOBhVUOX8-00230-00044424-00044471 field _bQOBhVUOX8-00231-00044472-00044702 for uh emergency response or post _bQOBhVUOX8-00232-00044703-00044958 emergency recovery response _bQOBhVUOX8-00233-00044959-00045262 he's the first on that _bQOBhVUOX8-00234-00045263-00045607 um camera systems that's a traditionally _bQOBhVUOX8-00235-00045608-00045751 a nikon camera system _bQOBhVUOX8-00236-00045752-00046023 uh that is being taken oblique pictures _bQOBhVUOX8-00237-00046024-00046174 outside the window _bQOBhVUOX8-00238-00046175-00046502 uh damage assessment um and _bQOBhVUOX8-00239-00046503-00046695 that can be done after a tornado after _bQOBhVUOX8-00240-00046696-00046862 storm passage after her _bQOBhVUOX8-00241-00046863-00047183 after during hurricane response uh we _bQOBhVUOX8-00242-00047184-00047351 also have nader cameras _bQOBhVUOX8-00243-00047352-00047567 verbs and gopros that can be hung off of _bQOBhVUOX8-00244-00047568-00047758 the wing and give us a straight down _bQOBhVUOX8-00245-00047759-00047815 view _bQOBhVUOX8-00246-00047816-00048007 those can be used for either immediate _bQOBhVUOX8-00247-00048008-00048135 damage assessment or _bQOBhVUOX8-00248-00048136-00048735 later mosaic together for application _bQOBhVUOX8-00249-00048736-00048895 i should have mentioned that we have a _bQOBhVUOX8-00250-00048896-00049135 little over 600 of those cameras out in _bQOBhVUOX8-00251-00049136-00049199 the field across _bQOBhVUOX8-00252-00049200-00049415 the country uh equipped are located _bQOBhVUOX8-00253-00049416-00049551 co-located with the aircraft that john _bQOBhVUOX8-00254-00049552-00049735 showed you just a minute ago _bQOBhVUOX8-00255-00049736-00050062 the next system to discuss is uh dart _bQOBhVUOX8-00256-00050063-00050190 domestic awareness and assessment _bQOBhVUOX8-00257-00050191-00050399 package we're an integral part of a team _bQOBhVUOX8-00258-00050400-00050511 player _bQOBhVUOX8-00259-00050512-00050758 we ride on the national guard backbone _bQOBhVUOX8-00260-00050759-00050886 our ability to do _bQOBhVUOX8-00261-00050887-00051143 uh to play in that allows the joint _bQOBhVUOX8-00262-00051144-00051254 operating center _bQOBhVUOX8-00263-00051255-00051423 or the jock to be able to talk directly _bQOBhVUOX8-00264-00051424-00051614 to the crew the crew can provide near _bQOBhVUOX8-00265-00051615-00051711 real-time _bQOBhVUOX8-00266-00051712-00052063 uh video imagery from the aircraft and _bQOBhVUOX8-00267-00052064-00052326 airborne audio and you know obviously _bQOBhVUOX8-00268-00052327-00052382 the _bQOBhVUOX8-00269-00052383-00052559 mark one eyeball uh reviews of the _bQOBhVUOX8-00270-00052560-00052703 activity that's going on in the area and _bQOBhVUOX8-00271-00052704-00052847 get that information directly back to _bQOBhVUOX8-00272-00052848-00052919 the jock _bQOBhVUOX8-00273-00052920-00053282 improving situational awareness for the _bQOBhVUOX8-00274-00053283-00053407 team _bQOBhVUOX8-00275-00053408-00053719 we employ uh waldo air camera _bQOBhVUOX8-00276-00053720-00053911 pods currently uh that's what's imaged _bQOBhVUOX8-00277-00053912-00054063 here we have a couple of different _bQOBhVUOX8-00278-00054064-00054279 vendors uh coming on board as well later _bQOBhVUOX8-00279-00054279-00054359 in the year _bQOBhVUOX8-00280-00054360-00054575 that provide this same type of camera _bQOBhVUOX8-00281-00054576-00054830 these are very high resolution _bQOBhVUOX8-00282-00054832-00055079 50 megapixel cameras times two in this _bQOBhVUOX8-00283-00055079-00055207 specific pod _bQOBhVUOX8-00284-00055208-00055487 and we use those to be able to create a _bQOBhVUOX8-00285-00055488-00055575 mosaic _bQOBhVUOX8-00286-00055576-00055823 and allow that to then be post-processed _bQOBhVUOX8-00287-00055824-00055935 into _bQOBhVUOX8-00288-00055936-00056199 damage assessment and other things that _bQOBhVUOX8-00289-00056200-00056303 can then be hosted _bQOBhVUOX8-00290-00056304-00056599 and provided out to the gis systems um _bQOBhVUOX8-00291-00056600-00056719 this pulls cap _bQOBhVUOX8-00292-00056720-00056894 not only uh you know in the normal _bQOBhVUOX8-00293-00056895-00057054 thought of let's send cap in it's an _bQOBhVUOX8-00294-00057055-00057230 emergency go take pictures _bQOBhVUOX8-00295-00057232-00057519 do damage assessment it also extends our _bQOBhVUOX8-00296-00057520-00057687 footprint into operations well _bQOBhVUOX8-00297-00057688-00057950 into the recovery process for monitoring _bQOBhVUOX8-00298-00057951-00058023 of _bQOBhVUOX8-00299-00058024-00058342 removal of debris trash and and recovery _bQOBhVUOX8-00300-00058344-00058542 processes uh rebuilding and _bQOBhVUOX8-00301-00058544-00058735 structural work that can be imaged and _bQOBhVUOX8-00302-00058736-00058903 then compared digitally _bQOBhVUOX8-00303-00058904-00059111 and monitored by the the federal _bQOBhVUOX8-00304-00059112-00059271 agencies involved _bQOBhVUOX8-00305-00059272-00059582 or local agencies as well _bQOBhVUOX8-00306-00059583-00059775 that high resolution collect looks like _bQOBhVUOX8-00307-00059776-00060023 this the left side of the screen shows _bQOBhVUOX8-00308-00060024-00060223 you the area that was collected a zoom _bQOBhVUOX8-00309-00060224-00060406 in on a specific building showing the _bQOBhVUOX8-00310-00060407-00060566 kind of detail that you can see _bQOBhVUOX8-00311-00060567-00060719 and i'll point out things like you can _bQOBhVUOX8-00312-00060720-00060911 see the structure of telephone poles you _bQOBhVUOX8-00313-00060912-00061087 can see the trees that are there _bQOBhVUOX8-00314-00061088-00061375 you can see the va vehicles that gives _bQOBhVUOX8-00315-00061376-00061519 you pretty good sense of the level of _bQOBhVUOX8-00316-00061520-00061671 detail the imagery that can be presented _bQOBhVUOX8-00317-00061672-00061726 here _bQOBhVUOX8-00318-00061727-00061975 and you know not knowing the orientation _bQOBhVUOX8-00319-00061976-00062119 of the photo right off the bat but by _bQOBhVUOX8-00320-00062120-00062279 looking at it you can say it's probably _bQOBhVUOX8-00321-00062279-00062447 mid to late afternoon because of the _bQOBhVUOX8-00322-00062448-00062591 angle of the shadows that you're even _bQOBhVUOX8-00323-00062591-00062711 seeing _bQOBhVUOX8-00324-00062712-00062887 as we click into the next one this one's _bQOBhVUOX8-00325-00062888-00063047 3d and i'm not going to be able to do _bQOBhVUOX8-00326-00063048-00063087 the _bQOBhVUOX8-00327-00063088-00063319 pull around on this but this is a 3d _bQOBhVUOX8-00328-00063320-00063526 reconstruction of that same entity that _bQOBhVUOX8-00329-00063527-00063599 you just saw _bQOBhVUOX8-00330-00063600-00063935 in the 2d view but literally because the _bQOBhVUOX8-00331-00063936-00064103 aircraft has flown circles over this _bQOBhVUOX8-00332-00064104-00064335 entire area we're able to image each of _bQOBhVUOX8-00333-00064336-00064526 the sides now obviously some distortion _bQOBhVUOX8-00334-00064527-00064671 present a few other things _bQOBhVUOX8-00335-00064672-00064830 but this is pretty amazing because we _bQOBhVUOX8-00336-00064832-00064975 can actually uh _bQOBhVUOX8-00337-00064976-00065119 through the math that the computer can _bQOBhVUOX8-00338-00065120-00065326 do look at those debris piles _bQOBhVUOX8-00339-00065327-00065591 and estimate their size and help fema _bQOBhVUOX8-00340-00065592-00065647 with that _bQOBhVUOX8-00341-00065648-00065887 process of recovery which is cleaning up _bQOBhVUOX8-00342-00065888-00066006 afterwards or getting _bQOBhVUOX8-00343-00066007-00066255 all that trash debris and other things _bQOBhVUOX8-00344-00066256-00066326 out of the way _bQOBhVUOX8-00345-00066327-00066494 along with being able to look at each _bQOBhVUOX8-00346-00066495-00066638 and every one of these buildings and do _bQOBhVUOX8-00347-00066639-00066703 a very good _bQOBhVUOX8-00348-00066704-00066935 damage assessment process visually if _bQOBhVUOX8-00349-00066936-00067111 you want to look at them or automate it _bQOBhVUOX8-00350-00067112-00067191 through _bQOBhVUOX8-00351-00067192-00067519 artificial intelligence _bQOBhVUOX8-00352-00067520-00067799 we can fly over uh public areas we can _bQOBhVUOX8-00353-00067800-00067975 also fly over military bases _bQOBhVUOX8-00354-00067976-00068167 installations here's an image from _bQOBhVUOX8-00355-00068168-00068399 from tyndall as well obviously those _bQOBhVUOX8-00356-00068400-00068582 have to be coordinated but that that _bQOBhVUOX8-00357-00068583-00068735 process can be handled in both _bQOBhVUOX8-00358-00068736-00069038 locations _bQOBhVUOX8-00359-00069039-00069311 here's an image of arkansas tornado that _bQOBhVUOX8-00360-00069312-00069367 was done _bQOBhVUOX8-00361-00069368-00069503 and very specifically showing the _bQOBhVUOX8-00362-00069504-00069679 artificial intelligence employed for _bQOBhVUOX8-00363-00069680-00069903 damage assessment _bQOBhVUOX8-00364-00069904-00070263 totally destroyed buildings in purple _bQOBhVUOX8-00365-00070264-00070503 uh significant damage in orange some _bQOBhVUOX8-00366-00070504-00070638 damage in yellow and _bQOBhVUOX8-00367-00070639-00070879 what appears to be no damage in green is _bQOBhVUOX8-00368-00070880-00071062 very very quick now for the uh _bQOBhVUOX8-00369-00071063-00071399 incident commander at the state eoc or _bQOBhVUOX8-00370-00071400-00071750 or parish operations center to be able _bQOBhVUOX8-00371-00071751-00071879 to look at things and say _bQOBhVUOX8-00372-00071880-00072062 what what what did we just experience in _bQOBhVUOX8-00373-00072063-00072231 this case in a very focused area where _bQOBhVUOX8-00374-00072232-00072343 tornadoes at _bQOBhVUOX8-00375-00072344-00072662 in the cases of hurricane imagery was _bQOBhVUOX8-00376-00072663-00072806 done of the entire _bQOBhVUOX8-00377-00072807-00073055 city of lake charles louisiana to to _bQOBhVUOX8-00378-00073056-00073223 estimate and understand the amount of _bQOBhVUOX8-00379-00073224-00073399 damage it was _bQOBhVUOX8-00380-00073400-00073759 inflicted on the uh _bQOBhVUOX8-00381-00073760-00074087 our um our rpa side of the house we have _bQOBhVUOX8-00382-00074088-00074423 aircraft that are equipped with balls _bQOBhVUOX8-00383-00074424-00074671 to simulate exactly what would be done _bQOBhVUOX8-00384-00074672-00074831 for training in the field _bQOBhVUOX8-00385-00074832-00075094 and that'll allows us to act as a safe _bQOBhVUOX8-00386-00075095-00075335 platform for the trainees when they're _bQOBhVUOX8-00387-00075336-00075567 practicing their use of the ball in the _bQOBhVUOX8-00388-00075568-00075679 field _bQOBhVUOX8-00389-00075680-00075911 the mx 15 which is on the next screen is _bQOBhVUOX8-00390-00075912-00075999 the ball that's on our _bQOBhVUOX8-00391-00076000-00076294 uh on our planes the imagery types that _bQOBhVUOX8-00392-00076295-00076487 you've got with that narrow image _bQOBhVUOX8-00393-00076488-00076711 the wide angle image day and infrared _bQOBhVUOX8-00394-00076712-00076887 those lenses are the same lenses and the _bQOBhVUOX8-00395-00076888-00076926 same _bQOBhVUOX8-00396-00076927-00077111 activity that that training officer _bQOBhVUOX8-00397-00077112-00077287 would experience if they were flying the _bQOBhVUOX8-00398-00077288-00077367 actual _bQOBhVUOX8-00399-00077368-00077623 aircraft with this ball attached this _bQOBhVUOX8-00400-00077624-00077847 gives them a safe operating environment _bQOBhVUOX8-00401-00077848-00077999 gets the folks on the ground we're _bQOBhVUOX8-00402-00078000-00078175 interoperating with that _bQOBhVUOX8-00403-00078176-00078503 sensor ball operator and allows _bQOBhVUOX8-00404-00078504-00078750 training to be handled with an aircraft _bQOBhVUOX8-00405-00078751-00078911 that doesn't require special operation _bQOBhVUOX8-00406-00078912-00079015 requirements like _bQOBhVUOX8-00407-00079016-00079350 if an actual drone was up doing the work _bQOBhVUOX8-00408-00079351-00079575 john back to you thanks eric and we'll _bQOBhVUOX8-00409-00079576-00079782 hit transition over to austin worcester _bQOBhVUOX8-00410-00079783-00079911 for the next section here _bQOBhVUOX8-00411-00079912-00080062 hello everybody my name is austin _bQOBhVUOX8-00412-00080063-00080238 wooster and i am the senior program _bQOBhVUOX8-00413-00080239-00080431 manager for unmanned systems in the _bQOBhVUOX8-00414-00080432-00080703 aeronet program at cap headquarters _bQOBhVUOX8-00415-00080704-00081079 as moose and eric _bQOBhVUOX8-00416-00081080-00081326 discussed we are fielding several _bQOBhVUOX8-00417-00081327-00081438 different _bQOBhVUOX8-00418-00081439-00081694 applications for imagery and one of _bQOBhVUOX8-00419-00081695-00081743 those _bQOBhVUOX8-00420-00081744-00081982 is the unexp in the inexpensive small _bQOBhVUOX8-00421-00081983-00082143 uas application _bQOBhVUOX8-00422-00082144-00082559 everything from the 2500 skydio pro _bQOBhVUOX8-00423-00082560-00082782 all the way up to the the thirty thirty _bQOBhVUOX8-00424-00082783-00082918 five thousand dollar _bQOBhVUOX8-00425-00082919-00083271 more advanced uavs like the scadio x2d _bQOBhVUOX8-00426-00083272-00083759 or the event38 e386 fixed-wing aircraft _bQOBhVUOX8-00427-00083760-00083975 and we do this to provide that much _bQOBhVUOX8-00428-00083976-00084294 higher level of resolution _bQOBhVUOX8-00429-00084295-00084671 when we're using the waldo x-cam _bQOBhVUOX8-00430-00084672-00084991 we get you know down to about _bQOBhVUOX8-00431-00084992-00085406 half an inch to an inch per pixel _bQOBhVUOX8-00432-00085407-00085718 with our aircraft in the uav world we're _bQOBhVUOX8-00433-00085719-00085943 getting down to in some cases as low as _bQOBhVUOX8-00434-00085944-00086071 a tenth of a _bQOBhVUOX8-00435-00086072-00086350 a centimeter per pixel which allows that _bQOBhVUOX8-00436-00086351-00086655 much higher level of _bQOBhVUOX8-00437-00086656-00086903 uh information that you can get plus it _bQOBhVUOX8-00438-00086904-00086999 can be overlaid _bQOBhVUOX8-00439-00087000-00087303 on top of the the waldo xcam data _bQOBhVUOX8-00440-00087304-00087462 and that gives you even that higher _bQOBhVUOX8-00441-00087463-00087711 level of resolution in that _bQOBhVUOX8-00442-00087712-00087959 inside that solution for the ai to do _bQOBhVUOX8-00443-00087960-00088047 its _bQOBhVUOX8-00444-00088048-00088318 damage assessment or when you're down as _bQOBhVUOX8-00445-00088319-00088526 low as that one-tenth per centimeter per _bQOBhVUOX8-00446-00088527-00088606 pixel _bQOBhVUOX8-00447-00088607-00088791 you can even look at the rivets of a _bQOBhVUOX8-00448-00088792-00088982 bridge and say _bQOBhVUOX8-00449-00088983-00089294 this bridge is is good or something has _bQOBhVUOX8-00450-00089295-00089375 shifted _bQOBhVUOX8-00451-00089376-00089550 um it allows that higher level of _bQOBhVUOX8-00452-00089551-00090006 critical infrastructure inspection _bQOBhVUOX8-00453-00090007-00090294 imagery that we get with our uavs is _bQOBhVUOX8-00454-00090295-00090367 we're _bQOBhVUOX8-00455-00090368-00090687 taking those and we're merging them into _bQOBhVUOX8-00456-00090688-00090887 an orthomosaic and what we're doing is _bQOBhVUOX8-00457-00090888-00091087 geo-rectifying them _bQOBhVUOX8-00458-00091088-00091326 or in some cases they are truly _bQOBhVUOX8-00459-00091327-00091575 geo-located _bQOBhVUOX8-00460-00091576-00091718 but the example you're seeing on the _bQOBhVUOX8-00461-00091719-00091918 screen is an eight-acre site it's our _bQOBhVUOX8-00462-00091919-00092047 training area _bQOBhVUOX8-00463-00092048-00092279 at camp ederberry this is where we _bQOBhVUOX8-00464-00092280-00092482 conduct our national emergency services _bQOBhVUOX8-00465-00092483-00092687 academy _bQOBhVUOX8-00466-00092688-00093031 each year and this is about 300 _bQOBhVUOX8-00467-00093032-00093318 images taken over a nine minute period _bQOBhVUOX8-00468-00093319-00093415 of time _bQOBhVUOX8-00469-00093416-00093743 they were stitched together using um _bQOBhVUOX8-00470-00093744-00094087 off-the-shelf common software _bQOBhVUOX8-00471-00094088-00094431 we use everything from esri site scan _bQOBhVUOX8-00472-00094432-00094791 to pix4d to meta shape _bQOBhVUOX8-00473-00094792-00095023 there are a multitude of processes out _bQOBhVUOX8-00474-00095024-00095206 there that you can use to process these _bQOBhVUOX8-00475-00095207-00095303 images _bQOBhVUOX8-00476-00095304-00095687 once they get it orthomosaic _bQOBhVUOX8-00477-00095688-00095838 together they're looking at it and then _bQOBhVUOX8-00478-00095839-00096015 they're geo rectifying it against known _bQOBhVUOX8-00479-00096016-00096150 locations _bQOBhVUOX8-00480-00096151-00096431 we do have the capability to do rtk pro _bQOBhVUOX8-00481-00096432-00096543 processing _bQOBhVUOX8-00482-00096544-00096791 to get us within that two centimeters _bQOBhVUOX8-00483-00096792-00096894 circle of error _bQOBhVUOX8-00484-00096895-00097359 when it comes to geo-rectification _bQOBhVUOX8-00485-00097360-00097543 and all of this was done in less than _bQOBhVUOX8-00486-00097544-00097743 two hours you can take that it's now a _bQOBhVUOX8-00487-00097744-00097894 tiff file _bQOBhVUOX8-00488-00097895-00098111 and you can drop it into any gis _bQOBhVUOX8-00489-00098112-00098303 platform falconview _bQOBhVUOX8-00490-00098304-00098638 arcgis are the most common _bQOBhVUOX8-00491-00098639-00098911 that are in use in our world and now you _bQOBhVUOX8-00492-00098912-00099094 can compare to what was there _bQOBhVUOX8-00493-00099095-00099438 when the um gis platform _bQOBhVUOX8-00494-00099439-00099638 image was taken whether it's google _bQOBhVUOX8-00495-00099639-00099806 earth or whatever _bQOBhVUOX8-00496-00099807-00100087 and now you're seeing what is there in _bQOBhVUOX8-00497-00100088-00100279 near real time _bQOBhVUOX8-00498-00100280-00100438 we have some other solutions that are _bQOBhVUOX8-00499-00100439-00100599 coming down the pike that give you into _bQOBhVUOX8-00500-00100600-00100638 that _bQOBhVUOX8-00501-00100639-00100871 almost instantaneous to real time and _bQOBhVUOX8-00502-00100872-00101038 i'll talk about that here in a minute _bQOBhVUOX8-00503-00101039-00101247 but this gets you that high detail for _bQOBhVUOX8-00504-00101248-00101415 infrastructure review _bQOBhVUOX8-00505-00101416-00101711 um also allows you to do pre-incident _bQOBhVUOX8-00506-00101712-00101767 planning _bQOBhVUOX8-00507-00101768-00101959 and pre-event planning with our _bQOBhVUOX8-00508-00101960-00102150 equipment _bQOBhVUOX8-00509-00102151-00102447 we also support you know air force _bQOBhVUOX8-00510-00102448-00102663 missions and other _bQOBhVUOX8-00511-00102664-00102910 homeland security targets of opportunity _bQOBhVUOX8-00512-00102911-00103127 air defense intercept targets _bQOBhVUOX8-00513-00103128-00103399 this is a recent incident that occurred _bQOBhVUOX8-00514-00103400-00103623 where an aircraft _bQOBhVUOX8-00515-00103624-00103910 with a foreign military student pilot _bQOBhVUOX8-00516-00103911-00104023 and a _bQOBhVUOX8-00517-00104024-00104223 u.s first assignment instructor pilot _bQOBhVUOX8-00518-00104224-00104327 crashed _bQOBhVUOX8-00519-00104328-00104534 about 300 yards short of the approach _bQOBhVUOX8-00520-00104535-00104710 end of the runway at montgomery regional _bQOBhVUOX8-00521-00104711-00104775 airport _bQOBhVUOX8-00522-00104776-00105095 it's a major regional airport _bQOBhVUOX8-00523-00105096-00105383 and this was an active runway and so we _bQOBhVUOX8-00524-00105383-00105495 flew uas _bQOBhVUOX8-00525-00105496-00105854 at roughly 75 feet altitude _bQOBhVUOX8-00526-00105855-00106039 to get that one tenth of a centimeter _bQOBhVUOX8-00527-00106040-00106231 per pixel to help the accident _bQOBhVUOX8-00528-00106232-00106351 investigators get _bQOBhVUOX8-00529-00106352-00106583 their data to determine and help _bQOBhVUOX8-00530-00106583-00106847 determine what happened _bQOBhVUOX8-00531-00106848-00107086 one of the things that we actually did _bQOBhVUOX8-00532-00107088-00107278 fly fixed-wing aircraft over this as _bQOBhVUOX8-00533-00107279-00107439 well _bQOBhVUOX8-00534-00107440-00107671 but because this is an active regional _bQOBhVUOX8-00535-00107672-00107758 airport _bQOBhVUOX8-00536-00107759-00107966 uh commercial heavy traffic coming in _bQOBhVUOX8-00537-00107967-00108158 and out and it does make _bQOBhVUOX8-00538-00108159-00108358 uh coordinating with the airport _bQOBhVUOX8-00539-00108359-00108623 complicated and we were able to do that _bQOBhVUOX8-00540-00108624-00108854 um with our teams working with the _bQOBhVUOX8-00541-00108855-00109031 tracon and with the uh _bQOBhVUOX8-00542-00109032-00109310 the tower in concert so that we weren't _bQOBhVUOX8-00543-00109311-00109502 interfering with the airport's operation _bQOBhVUOX8-00544-00109503-00109663 at the same time we were helping the air _bQOBhVUOX8-00545-00109664-00109743 force _bQOBhVUOX8-00546-00109744-00110175 safety board make some determinations _bQOBhVUOX8-00547-00110176-00110366 for example in this case this is the _bQOBhVUOX8-00548-00110367-00110558 approach end the accident sites _bQOBhVUOX8-00549-00110559-00110775 just off to your left about 300 yards _bQOBhVUOX8-00550-00110776-00110863 from the _bQOBhVUOX8-00551-00110864-00111158 from that first tower in your view as to _bQOBhVUOX8-00552-00111159-00111358 what the pilot likely saw _bQOBhVUOX8-00553-00111359-00111575 just before the incident we put it at _bQOBhVUOX8-00554-00111576-00111758 what we estimated was the cockpit _bQOBhVUOX8-00555-00111759-00111966 altitude _bQOBhVUOX8-00556-00111967-00112190 and what the runway should have looked _bQOBhVUOX8-00557-00112191-00112495 like on a normal approach _bQOBhVUOX8-00558-00112496-00112758 if you'll note on the right this is the _bQOBhVUOX8-00559-00112759-00112895 image that was taken _bQOBhVUOX8-00560-00112896-00113223 right at the time _bQOBhVUOX8-00561-00113224-00113519 the incident occurred so that you get _bQOBhVUOX8-00562-00113520-00113766 all of the visual distractors involved _bQOBhVUOX8-00563-00113767-00113999 the the one on the left was taken with _bQOBhVUOX8-00564-00114000-00114190 optimum lighting conditions _bQOBhVUOX8-00565-00114191-00114495 uh almost at midday the one on the right _bQOBhVUOX8-00566-00114496-00114639 was taken right at _bQOBhVUOX8-00567-00114640-00114854 uh the minute the incident um is _bQOBhVUOX8-00568-00114855-00115015 believed to have occurred _bQOBhVUOX8-00569-00115016-00115295 to help give a better picture of what _bQOBhVUOX8-00570-00115296-00115886 the pilot may or may not have seen _bQOBhVUOX8-00571-00115888-00116078 one of the other capabilities we're _bQOBhVUOX8-00572-00116079-00116223 adding is _bQOBhVUOX8-00573-00116224-00116471 using a car mounted waldo camera much _bQOBhVUOX8-00574-00116472-00116734 like the google 360 camera _bQOBhVUOX8-00575-00116735-00117047 to give this ground level 360 degree _bQOBhVUOX8-00576-00117048-00117151 view _bQOBhVUOX8-00577-00117152-00117543 of our site so we're one of those few _bQOBhVUOX8-00578-00117544-00117743 agencies that can take _bQOBhVUOX8-00579-00117744-00118175 ground level imagery either from _bQOBhVUOX8-00580-00118176-00118554 a standard esri _bQOBhVUOX8-00581-00118555-00118958 survey123 app we can use the waldo x cam _bQOBhVUOX8-00582-00118959-00119302 on the ground level in a 360 degree _bQOBhVUOX8-00583-00119303-00119423 method _bQOBhVUOX8-00584-00119424-00119751 we can use uav imagery from _bQOBhVUOX8-00585-00119752-00120047 surface to 400 feet above ground level _bQOBhVUOX8-00586-00120048-00120095 or _bQOBhVUOX8-00587-00120096-00120414 up 400 feet above a particular building _bQOBhVUOX8-00588-00120415-00120614 if that building is in excess of 400 _bQOBhVUOX8-00589-00120615-00120886 feet then we can go to our standard _bQOBhVUOX8-00590-00120888-00121143 oblique imagery at a thousand feet agl _bQOBhVUOX8-00591-00121144-00121286 all the way up to our _bQOBhVUOX8-00592-00121288-00121614 standard waldo x cam which is typically _bQOBhVUOX8-00593-00121615-00121823 done at about 2500 feet above ground _bQOBhVUOX8-00594-00121824-00121943 level _bQOBhVUOX8-00595-00121944-00122190 merge all of those images together and _bQOBhVUOX8-00596-00122191-00122271 now you have a _bQOBhVUOX8-00597-00122272-00122558 very good comprehensive package of what _bQOBhVUOX8-00598-00122559-00122758 is actually going on on the ground _bQOBhVUOX8-00599-00122759-00123071 helps us determine debris pile size _bQOBhVUOX8-00600-00123072-00123278 helps fema decide how many vehicles they _bQOBhVUOX8-00601-00123279-00123463 need to dump trucks they need to haul _bQOBhVUOX8-00602-00123464-00123599 this stuff off _bQOBhVUOX8-00603-00123600-00123783 what kind of access do you have into _bQOBhVUOX8-00604-00123783-00123958 that disaster zone _bQOBhVUOX8-00605-00123959-00124175 uh critical infrastructure inspection is _bQOBhVUOX8-00606-00124176-00124278 that bridge still _bQOBhVUOX8-00607-00124279-00124463 aligned up the way it's supposed to be _bQOBhVUOX8-00608-00124464-00124614 is that power substation _bQOBhVUOX8-00609-00124615-00124790 still standing the way it's supposed to _bQOBhVUOX8-00610-00124791-00125014 be we were unable to play all of these _bQOBhVUOX8-00611-00125015-00125223 together and saturate _bQOBhVUOX8-00612-00125224-00125447 southern puerto rico immediately post _bQOBhVUOX8-00613-00125448-00125527 earthquake _bQOBhVUOX8-00614-00125528-00125951 our uavs were the primary team _bQOBhVUOX8-00615-00125952-00126143 involved in that first week because _bQOBhVUOX8-00616-00126144-00126286 weather conditions _bQOBhVUOX8-00617-00126288-00126631 grounded our fixed-wing operations _bQOBhVUOX8-00618-00126632-00126839 and frequent aftershocks were making it _bQOBhVUOX8-00619-00126840-00127071 dangerous to go up and down streets _bQOBhVUOX8-00620-00127072-00127231 where we could stand off in a clear _bQOBhVUOX8-00621-00127232-00127375 field with a uav _bQOBhVUOX8-00622-00127376-00127647 and overfly these areas and our uavs _bQOBhVUOX8-00623-00127648-00127854 were not affected by the the high winds _bQOBhVUOX8-00624-00127855-00128014 that were buffeting the island at that _bQOBhVUOX8-00625-00128015-00128254 particular time _bQOBhVUOX8-00626-00128255-00128439 one of our new technologies it's also _bQOBhVUOX8-00627-00128440-00128695 another program i'm running is _bQOBhVUOX8-00628-00128696-00128927 the aeronet and it's actually stands for _bQOBhVUOX8-00629-00128928-00129119 the airborne extensible relay over the _bQOBhVUOX8-00630-00129120-00129302 horizon network _bQOBhVUOX8-00631-00129303-00129583 it is a tactical aerial network that _bQOBhVUOX8-00632-00129583-00129871 allows us to take _bQOBhVUOX8-00633-00129872-00130166 a mesh radio system that has a _bQOBhVUOX8-00634-00130167-00130343 computer-based system on it _bQOBhVUOX8-00635-00130344-00130647 and move data through sms _bQOBhVUOX8-00636-00130648-00130951 texting voice over ip _bQOBhVUOX8-00637-00130952-00131223 legacy radio systems over ip which means _bQOBhVUOX8-00638-00131224-00131463 you can rip in your _bQOBhVUOX8-00639-00131464-00131663 legacy radio system your public safety _bQOBhVUOX8-00640-00131664-00131927 radio or an aircraft radio _bQOBhVUOX8-00641-00131928-00132295 and transmitted over the c the l band or _bQOBhVUOX8-00642-00132296-00132439 the s-band _bQOBhVUOX8-00643-00132440-00132743 and this multiple chain mesh radio _bQOBhVUOX8-00644-00132744-00133039 system is self-healing and self-forming _bQOBhVUOX8-00645-00133040-00133223 so the more radios in the system the _bQOBhVUOX8-00646-00133224-00133439 better it performs the quicker it _bQOBhVUOX8-00647-00133440-00133535 performs _bQOBhVUOX8-00648-00133536-00133727 but if we lose a radio suddenly off of _bQOBhVUOX8-00649-00133728-00133887 that there's no single point of failure _bQOBhVUOX8-00650-00133888-00133990 in the system _bQOBhVUOX8-00651-00133991-00134295 it is a self-healing mesh network _bQOBhVUOX8-00652-00134296-00134590 it's an ad hoc network too so there is _bQOBhVUOX8-00653-00134591-00134775 no single controlling radio _bQOBhVUOX8-00654-00134776-00135007 all of the radios act as a controller _bQOBhVUOX8-00655-00135008-00135102 these radios _bQOBhVUOX8-00656-00135103-00135311 are operating on a linux operating _bQOBhVUOX8-00657-00135312-00135543 system with an android operating system _bQOBhVUOX8-00658-00135544-00135671 over top of it _bQOBhVUOX8-00659-00135672-00135863 and so the radio itself has a video _bQOBhVUOX8-00660-00135864-00136023 encoder it's an _bQOBhVUOX8-00661-00136024-00136311 android device computing device and _bQOBhVUOX8-00662-00136312-00136502 we're using the _bQOBhVUOX8-00663-00136503-00136735 tac or atac software depending on your _bQOBhVUOX8-00664-00136736-00136943 familiarity with it _bQOBhVUOX8-00665-00136944-00137111 to provide that tactical awareness _bQOBhVUOX8-00666-00137112-00137343 allowing all of our users to see _bQOBhVUOX8-00667-00137344-00137527 with our dismounted kit that's vest _bQOBhVUOX8-00668-00137528-00137663 mounted _bQOBhVUOX8-00669-00137664-00137878 it has a camera mounted to the back of _bQOBhVUOX8-00670-00137879-00138102 the end user device _bQOBhVUOX8-00671-00138103-00138543 so it's transmitting video in 1080p _bQOBhVUOX8-00672-00138544-00138902 the vehicle kits have a mounted camera _bQOBhVUOX8-00673-00138903-00139239 transmitting in 1080p and the aircraft _bQOBhVUOX8-00674-00139240-00139447 has a handheld kit or can use a sensor _bQOBhVUOX8-00675-00139448-00139647 ball if it has a sensor ball _bQOBhVUOX8-00676-00139648-00139814 all of that transmitting and all _bQOBhVUOX8-00677-00139815-00140063 everybody can see each other's video _bQOBhVUOX8-00678-00140064-00140278 and all of this can be then relayed from _bQOBhVUOX8-00679-00140279-00140519 the ground to the air back to a tracking _bQOBhVUOX8-00680-00140520-00140607 antenna _bQOBhVUOX8-00681-00140608-00140887 up to 100 nautical miles away and this _bQOBhVUOX8-00682-00140888-00141127 creates these little bubbles _bQOBhVUOX8-00683-00141128-00141431 of infrastructure independent _bQOBhVUOX8-00684-00141432-00141639 internet that's closed it's more of an _bQOBhVUOX8-00685-00141640-00141799 infrastructure _bQOBhVUOX8-00686-00141800-00142119 infranet as opposed to an internet _bQOBhVUOX8-00687-00142120-00142343 but what makes it capable even more than _bQOBhVUOX8-00688-00142344-00142454 that is _bQOBhVUOX8-00689-00142455-00142887 we can tie a one of these mpu5 radios _bQOBhVUOX8-00690-00142888-00143047 into the internet _bQOBhVUOX8-00691-00143048-00143366 and one of our teams or customers _bQOBhVUOX8-00692-00143367-00143647 hundreds of miles away from uh the _bQOBhVUOX8-00693-00143648-00143783 tracking antenna _bQOBhVUOX8-00694-00143784-00144014 can now see this information directly _bQOBhVUOX8-00695-00144015-00144119 over _bQOBhVUOX8-00696-00144120-00144295 the internet being streamed straight to _bQOBhVUOX8-00697-00144296-00144447 them and they can participate in the _bQOBhVUOX8-00698-00144448-00144511 mission _bQOBhVUOX8-00699-00144512-00144687 just as if they were sitting next to the _bQOBhVUOX8-00700-00144688-00144919 team in the field _bQOBhVUOX8-00701-00144920-00145175 this is actually an air force program _bQOBhVUOX8-00702-00145176-00145431 it's intended for foreign military sales _bQOBhVUOX8-00703-00145432-00145726 the whole concept of the project was to _bQOBhVUOX8-00704-00145727-00145902 provide _bQOBhVUOX8-00705-00145903-00146095 interoperable communications with our _bQOBhVUOX8-00706-00146096-00146247 partner nations _bQOBhVUOX8-00707-00146248-00146590 in the southern cone _bQOBhVUOX8-00708-00146591-00146863 south america cone of influence where we _bQOBhVUOX8-00709-00146864-00147039 don't have to give them access to _bQOBhVUOX8-00710-00147040-00147214 classified information this is all _bQOBhVUOX8-00711-00147215-00147366 commercial off-the-shelf _bQOBhVUOX8-00712-00147367-00147551 technology that's encrypted with bank _bQOBhVUOX8-00713-00147552-00147671 level security _bQOBhVUOX8-00714-00147672-00147911 so it's secure but we're not giving them _bQOBhVUOX8-00715-00147912-00148207 information on classified systems _bQOBhVUOX8-00716-00148208-00148375 what we're doing now with this is _bQOBhVUOX8-00717-00148376-00148631 expanding it into _bQOBhVUOX8-00718-00148632-00148823 humanitarian and disaster relief _bQOBhVUOX8-00719-00148824-00148990 operations to give _bQOBhVUOX8-00720-00148991-00149302 our customers that real time information _bQOBhVUOX8-00721-00149303-00149543 in real time communications so our _bQOBhVUOX8-00722-00149544-00149735 customer can talk directly to our air _bQOBhVUOX8-00723-00149736-00149807 crew _bQOBhVUOX8-00724-00149808-00150135 in the air and say hey i i need to see _bQOBhVUOX8-00725-00150136-00150287 this with a sensor ball _bQOBhVUOX8-00726-00150288-00150423 uh can you look at that with the _bQOBhVUOX8-00727-00150424-00150614 infrared or hey ground guy _bQOBhVUOX8-00728-00150615-00150854 can you just turn you know 90 degrees to _bQOBhVUOX8-00729-00150855-00150935 your right _bQOBhVUOX8-00730-00150936-00151143 and let me look at this and that gives _bQOBhVUOX8-00731-00151144-00151319 you that interoperable tactical _bQOBhVUOX8-00732-00151320-00151478 communications _bQOBhVUOX8-00733-00151479-00151814 so it is a developing technology _bQOBhVUOX8-00734-00151815-00152047 cap has the largest system in the world _bQOBhVUOX8-00735-00152048-00152199 of this _bQOBhVUOX8-00736-00152200-00152471 right now and our assignment for helping _bQOBhVUOX8-00737-00152472-00152654 develop this actually came from the _bQOBhVUOX8-00738-00152655-00152911 air force chief of staff general _bQOBhVUOX8-00739-00152912-00153166 goldfein at the time now general brown _bQOBhVUOX8-00740-00153167-00153366 who is is quite supportive of us _bQOBhVUOX8-00741-00153367-00153502 continuing in this _bQOBhVUOX8-00742-00153503-00153671 and so we're working in concert with the _bQOBhVUOX8-00743-00153672-00153854 air force special operations _bQOBhVUOX8-00744-00153855-00154175 command and the continued light attack _bQOBhVUOX8-00745-00154176-00154319 experiment _bQOBhVUOX8-00746-00154320-00154543 with air combat command to help develop _bQOBhVUOX8-00747-00154544-00154702 this system and make it a deployable _bQOBhVUOX8-00748-00154703-00154823 asset _bQOBhVUOX8-00749-00154824-00154990 not just in the civilian world but in _bQOBhVUOX8-00750-00154991-00155223 the military world _bQOBhVUOX8-00751-00155224-00155423 so from an operational perspective this _bQOBhVUOX8-00752-00155424-00155614 gives you a better _bQOBhVUOX8-00753-00155615-00155854 perspective of ideal things while we can _bQOBhVUOX8-00754-00155855-00155926 go out _bQOBhVUOX8-00755-00155927-00156231 to 130 nautical miles _bQOBhVUOX8-00756-00156232-00156423 our data range at 100 miles is 10 _bQOBhVUOX8-00757-00156424-00156607 megabits per second _bQOBhVUOX8-00758-00156608-00156847 if we go out to 130 nautical miles that _bQOBhVUOX8-00759-00156848-00157047 actually lowers to about five _bQOBhVUOX8-00760-00157048-00157247 megabits per second which we don't _bQOBhVUOX8-00761-00157248-00157351 typically notice _bQOBhVUOX8-00762-00157352-00157535 much unless we're streaming multiple _bQOBhVUOX8-00763-00157536-00157751 streams of video _bQOBhVUOX8-00764-00157752-00157983 so the airborne node can communicate _bQOBhVUOX8-00765-00157984-00158119 with ground crews as much as _bQOBhVUOX8-00766-00158120-00158447 40 nautical miles away _bQOBhVUOX8-00767-00158448-00158639 and that aircraft can then transmit _bQOBhVUOX8-00768-00158640-00158814 directly back to the _bQOBhVUOX8-00769-00158815-00159231 the c2 or eoc node uh _bQOBhVUOX8-00770-00159232-00159478 up to 100 miles away but we can also go _bQOBhVUOX8-00771-00159479-00159543 aircraft _bQOBhVUOX8-00772-00159544-00159790 aircraft 40 miles distance so we can _bQOBhVUOX8-00773-00159791-00159951 continue to build out the ideas that _bQOBhVUOX8-00774-00159952-00160151 we're dropping that c2 node _bQOBhVUOX8-00775-00160152-00160351 in that area that is not infrastructure _bQOBhVUOX8-00776-00160352-00160623 denied or internet denied _bQOBhVUOX8-00777-00160624-00160783 but our aircraft are operating over a _bQOBhVUOX8-00778-00160784-00160959 disaster site that may be internet _bQOBhVUOX8-00779-00160960-00161102 denied _bQOBhVUOX8-00780-00161103-00161271 and getting that information directly _bQOBhVUOX8-00781-00161272-00161439 from our field crews _bQOBhVUOX8-00782-00161440-00161775 right back to you in real time _bQOBhVUOX8-00783-00161776-00162102 we can also pull these hd _bQOBhVUOX8-00784-00162103-00162351 1080p videos we can take still images _bQOBhVUOX8-00785-00162352-00162471 and move them as well _bQOBhVUOX8-00786-00162472-00162711 which gives you that higher definition _bQOBhVUOX8-00787-00162712-00162790 in the _bQOBhVUOX8-00788-00162791-00162983 phase two we're building this system _bQOBhVUOX8-00789-00162984-00163119 across the entire _bQOBhVUOX8-00790-00163120-00163423 uh southern gulf coast and the _bQOBhVUOX8-00791-00163424-00163751 southern half of the atlantic _bQOBhVUOX8-00792-00163752-00164159 uh seaboard the intent was is that with _bQOBhVUOX8-00793-00164160-00164463 three aircraft and one c2 node _bQOBhVUOX8-00794-00164464-00164823 and you know give or take 15 or 20 _bQOBhVUOX8-00795-00164824-00164878 ground _bQOBhVUOX8-00796-00164879-00165247 nodes dismounted kits we can saturate _bQOBhVUOX8-00797-00165248-00165535 the entirety of the u.s virgin islands _bQOBhVUOX8-00798-00165536-00165854 and puerto rican territory _bQOBhVUOX8-00799-00165855-00166207 and provide that you know blanket _bQOBhVUOX8-00800-00166208-00166263 internet _bQOBhVUOX8-00801-00166264-00166551 support with data and information moving _bQOBhVUOX8-00802-00166552-00166663 back and forth _bQOBhVUOX8-00803-00166664-00166966 all to that eoc _bQOBhVUOX8-00804-00166967-00167302 or initial operating facility for fema _bQOBhVUOX8-00805-00167303-00167678 we maintain a deployable kit of three _bQOBhVUOX8-00806-00167679-00167919 tracking antennas so that we can drop _bQOBhVUOX8-00807-00167920-00168111 one at an eoc one at our incident _bQOBhVUOX8-00808-00168112-00168223 command post _bQOBhVUOX8-00809-00168224-00168566 and one at the fema ios iof to allow _bQOBhVUOX8-00810-00168567-00168711 them to to be able to exchange _bQOBhVUOX8-00811-00168712-00168887 information all at the same time _bQOBhVUOX8-00812-00168888-00169214 plus we can add uh units into that field _bQOBhVUOX8-00813-00169215-00169463 uh through the through normal internet _bQOBhVUOX8-00814-00169464-00169823 all the way back to united states _bQOBhVUOX8-00815-00169824-00170047 i'm going to kick this back over to mr _bQOBhVUOX8-00816-00170048-00170263 damaris now and allow him to _bQOBhVUOX8-00817-00170264-00170414 to keep going with what we have in _bQOBhVUOX8-00818-00170415-00170607 operations thanks _bQOBhVUOX8-00819-00170608-00170902 thanks austin i appreciate it all right _bQOBhVUOX8-00820-00170903-00170999 let me you know i go _bQOBhVUOX8-00821-00171000-00171238 ahead and knit on that put my slides _bQOBhVUOX8-00822-00171239-00171423 back up here _bQOBhVUOX8-00823-00171424-00171599 all right it's so that you know that _bQOBhVUOX8-00824-00171600-00171814 probably one of the the biggest things _bQOBhVUOX8-00825-00171815-00171990 for civil air patrol is its people _bQOBhVUOX8-00826-00171991-00172143 though they you know we bring a lot of _bQOBhVUOX8-00827-00172144-00172295 resources to bear for an _bQOBhVUOX8-00828-00172296-00172511 operational missions but we we also _bQOBhVUOX8-00829-00172512-00172726 bring mid thousands of volunteers and _bQOBhVUOX8-00830-00172727-00172871 from across the country and _bQOBhVUOX8-00831-00172872-00173047 yes we're civil air patrol so we do have _bQOBhVUOX8-00832-00173048-00173247 a lot of pilots and air crew members _bQOBhVUOX8-00833-00173248-00173390 but we actually have a lot of people _bQOBhVUOX8-00834-00173391-00173566 that have gotten involved across the _bQOBhVUOX8-00835-00173567-00173726 board and running missions and they all _bQOBhVUOX8-00836-00173727-00173887 train to the meet the federal _bQOBhVUOX8-00837-00173888-00174151 standards on making sure that they meet _bQOBhVUOX8-00838-00174152-00174319 the national incident management system _bQOBhVUOX8-00839-00174320-00174495 requirements and training _bQOBhVUOX8-00840-00174496-00174719 uh and they they literally come from all _bQOBhVUOX8-00841-00174720-00174919 walks of life _bQOBhVUOX8-00842-00174920-00175071 and we've got people that are trained as _bQOBhVUOX8-00843-00175072-00175247 section chiefs and incident commanders _bQOBhVUOX8-00844-00175248-00175438 as well as net information officers _bQOBhVUOX8-00845-00175439-00175687 safety staff communications people _bQOBhVUOX8-00846-00175688-00175911 uh chaplains you name it we've got folks _bQOBhVUOX8-00847-00175912-00176054 that are supporting our missions across _bQOBhVUOX8-00848-00176055-00176214 the board _bQOBhVUOX8-00849-00176215-00176478 uh operationally uh we hadn't discussed _bQOBhVUOX8-00850-00176479-00176566 this _bQOBhVUOX8-00851-00176567-00176743 we actually work from border to border _bQOBhVUOX8-00852-00176744-00176926 and coast to coast across the connelly _bQOBhVUOX8-00853-00176927-00177047 united states _bQOBhVUOX8-00854-00177048-00177287 as well as in alaska hawaii puerto rico _bQOBhVUOX8-00855-00177288-00177438 and the u.s virgin islands we actually _bQOBhVUOX8-00856-00177439-00177526 have 52 _bQOBhVUOX8-00857-00177527-00177775 wings the 50 states plus the national _bQOBhVUOX8-00858-00177776-00177943 capital in puerto rico and the us virgin _bQOBhVUOX8-00859-00177944-00178135 islands is one combined wing _bQOBhVUOX8-00860-00178136-00178359 uh and just so you understand how we _bQOBhVUOX8-00861-00178360-00178535 operate generally if we're supporting a _bQOBhVUOX8-00862-00178536-00178654 federal agency _bQOBhVUOX8-00863-00178655-00178847 we have to do that as the air force _bQOBhVUOX8-00864-00178848-00179071 auxiliary uh the rest of the time we can _bQOBhVUOX8-00865-00179072-00179119 support _bQOBhVUOX8-00866-00179120-00179295 as civil air patrol so supporting state _bQOBhVUOX8-00867-00179296-00179502 and local entities is generally done in _bQOBhVUOX8-00868-00179503-00179702 a corporate status initially and then _bQOBhVUOX8-00869-00179703-00179902 when there's a federal interest it gets _bQOBhVUOX8-00870-00179903-00180087 done as the air force auxiliary _bQOBhVUOX8-00871-00180088-00180271 and to do air force sign missions it has _bQOBhVUOX8-00872-00180272-00180390 to be approved by their component _bQOBhVUOX8-00873-00180391-00180543 commander most of the _bQOBhVUOX8-00874-00180544-00180678 missions for civil air patrol are _bQOBhVUOX8-00875-00180679-00180814 approved by the first air force _bQOBhVUOX8-00876-00180815-00180926 commander _bQOBhVUOX8-00877-00180927-00181126 or they can be approved by the the pak _bQOBhVUOX8-00878-00181127-00181343 afternoon command staff _bQOBhVUOX8-00879-00181344-00181654 therefore alaska and hawaii _bQOBhVUOX8-00880-00181655-00181871 normally mid done with their operations _bQOBhVUOX8-00881-00181872-00181990 centers _bQOBhVUOX8-00882-00181991-00182231 and give you a picture of what we do in _bQOBhVUOX8-00883-00182232-00182351 a typical year _bQOBhVUOX8-00884-00182352-00182566 it's typically about 60 to 80 percent of _bQOBhVUOX8-00885-00182567-00182766 what's on first air force's daily _bQOBhVUOX8-00886-00182767-00182959 sorting list across the country so that _bQOBhVUOX8-00887-00182960-00183143 we do a lot of flying for them _bQOBhVUOX8-00888-00183144-00183351 uh and in a typical year cap flies about _bQOBhVUOX8-00889-00183352-00183566 80 000 hours of air force time missions _bQOBhVUOX8-00890-00183567-00183623 and about _bQOBhVUOX8-00891-00183624-00183895 15 to 20 000 of those hours are in _bQOBhVUOX8-00892-00183896-00184054 direct support of customers on the _bQOBhVUOX8-00893-00184055-00184271 varied missions that we support _bQOBhVUOX8-00894-00184272-00184487 uh they few things on limitations for _bQOBhVUOX8-00895-00184488-00184614 you so you understand _bQOBhVUOX8-00896-00184615-00184823 uh civil air patrol is just like the the _bQOBhVUOX8-00897-00184824-00184926 military that _bQOBhVUOX8-00898-00184927-00185251 on it as far as our operations go so _bQOBhVUOX8-00899-00185252-00185431 possible applies _bQOBhVUOX8-00900-00185432-00185678 what does that mean to you well we can't _bQOBhVUOX8-00901-00185679-00185775 be involved in _bQOBhVUOX8-00902-00185776-00185959 search and seizure or arrest or _bQOBhVUOX8-00903-00185960-00186175 interrogations or direct law enforcement _bQOBhVUOX8-00904-00186176-00186295 activities _bQOBhVUOX8-00905-00186296-00186463 we do have some missions that we have _bQOBhVUOX8-00906-00186464-00186663 some special approvals for to be able to _bQOBhVUOX8-00907-00186664-00186790 network along with _bQOBhVUOX8-00908-00186791-00187087 the border operations but either way if _bQOBhVUOX8-00909-00187088-00187254 the military generally can't do it _bQOBhVUOX8-00910-00187255-00187438 within the united states then we can't _bQOBhVUOX8-00911-00187439-00187471 and _bQOBhVUOX8-00912-00187472-00187647 it even though in some cases the _bQOBhVUOX8-00913-00187648-00187807 national guard can do some law _bQOBhVUOX8-00914-00187808-00187975 enforcement operations _bQOBhVUOX8-00915-00187976-00188287 uh solar patrol though legally we could _bQOBhVUOX8-00916-00188288-00188566 we have chosen not to admit to do that _bQOBhVUOX8-00917-00188567-00188847 in order to not put our members at risk _bQOBhVUOX8-00918-00188848-00189143 so we limit those kinds of missions and _bQOBhVUOX8-00919-00189144-00189231 so _bQOBhVUOX8-00920-00189232-00189535 when you look at our overall benefit _bQOBhVUOX8-00921-00189536-00189671 probably one of the biggest benefits is _bQOBhVUOX8-00922-00189672-00189814 that we're cost effective _bQOBhVUOX8-00923-00189815-00189975 you know it's it's better to use an _bQOBhVUOX8-00924-00189976-00190126 airplane like ours that's fairly _bQOBhVUOX8-00925-00190127-00190326 inexpensive to operate than some of the _bQOBhVUOX8-00926-00190327-00190359 other _bQOBhVUOX8-00927-00190360-00190607 larger assets out there and we're pretty _bQOBhVUOX8-00928-00190608-00190702 well equipped _bQOBhVUOX8-00929-00190703-00190847 as you've seen that we've got a lot of _bQOBhVUOX8-00930-00190848-00191111 the resources getting fielded that that _bQOBhVUOX8-00931-00191112-00191359 really in the past had only been fielded _bQOBhVUOX8-00932-00191360-00191575 on high-end military aircraft _bQOBhVUOX8-00933-00191576-00191719 and now we're able to do a lot of those _bQOBhVUOX8-00934-00191720-00191926 missions and allow them to be used for _bQOBhVUOX8-00935-00191927-00192078 the admissions that are they're better _bQOBhVUOX8-00936-00192079-00192271 suited for _bQOBhVUOX8-00937-00192272-00192550 day to day how do you get us well you _bQOBhVUOX8-00938-00192551-00192750 can submit requests that through the the _bQOBhVUOX8-00939-00192751-00192871 normal _bQOBhVUOX8-00940-00192872-00193207 on the defenseman process but generally _bQOBhVUOX8-00941-00193208-00193431 day to day the easiest thing is that to _bQOBhVUOX8-00942-00193432-00193543 have the requests that _bQOBhVUOX8-00943-00193544-00193783 go that through the air force for _bQOBhVUOX8-00944-00193784-00193887 approval _bQOBhVUOX8-00945-00193888-00194150 the air force can approve just about all _bQOBhVUOX8-00946-00194151-00194263 of our missions _bQOBhVUOX8-00947-00194264-00194575 directly and makes it for a much faster _bQOBhVUOX8-00948-00194576-00194654 approval _bQOBhVUOX8-00949-00194655-00194799 and those requests go through our _bQOBhVUOX8-00950-00194800-00194983 national operations center _bQOBhVUOX8-00951-00194984-00195143 our cap national operations center is _bQOBhVUOX8-00952-00195144-00195350 located at maxwell air force base _bQOBhVUOX8-00953-00195351-00195671 in alabama uh and is available 24 _bQOBhVUOX8-00954-00195672-00195895 7. uh it's manned during the normal duty _bQOBhVUOX8-00955-00195896-00196047 day and then rolls to a duty officer _bQOBhVUOX8-00956-00196048-00196199 after hours that _bQOBhVUOX8-00957-00196200-00196375 so that we recommend that actually _bQOBhVUOX8-00958-00196376-00196543 calling our national operations center _bQOBhVUOX8-00959-00196544-00196687 and then when you have an emergency _bQOBhVUOX8-00960-00196688-00196790 request _bQOBhVUOX8-00961-00196791-00196990 rather than just sending an email online _bQOBhVUOX8-00962-00196991-00197135 that you know emails are great _bQOBhVUOX8-00963-00197136-00197399 but admit giving somebody a heads up is _bQOBhVUOX8-00964-00197400-00197454 probably _bQOBhVUOX8-00965-00197455-00197702 the best thing to do and realize day to _bQOBhVUOX8-00966-00197703-00197871 day for most of our missions we would _bQOBhVUOX8-00967-00197872-00198102 remain under military operation control _bQOBhVUOX8-00968-00198103-00198287 uh when it's done as an air force sign _bQOBhVUOX8-00969-00198288-00198535 mission so we don't just chop to another 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_cl_3zg-8Sc-00024-00011225-00011681 seven one and two and three five six and _cl_3zg-8Sc-00025-00011682-00011982 Ricky _dz4XX-Y9-E-00000-00000035-00000296 Phoenicia from the ancient Greek point _dz4XX-Y9-E-00001-00000297-00000503 ek4 nikkei was at the lasso kradic _dz4XX-Y9-E-00002-00000504-00000707 ancient Semitic speaking Mediterranean _dz4XX-Y9-E-00003-00000708-00000896 civilization that originated in the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00004-00000897-00001043 Levant in the west of the Fertile _dz4XX-Y9-E-00005-00001044-00001300 Crescent scholars generally agree that _dz4XX-Y9-E-00006-00001301-00001516 it included the coastal areas of today's _dz4XX-Y9-E-00007-00001517-00001732 Lebanon northern Israel and southern _dz4XX-Y9-E-00008-00001734-00001973 Syria reaching as far north as our Wat _dz4XX-Y9-E-00009-00001973-00002132 but there are some dispute as to how far _dz4XX-Y9-E-00010-00002133-00002326 south it went the farthest suggested _dz4XX-Y9-E-00011-00002327-00002624 area being Ashkelon its colonies later _dz4XX-Y9-E-00012-00002625-00002831 reached the western Mediterranean such _dz4XX-Y9-E-00013-00002832-00003025 as Cadiz in Spain and most notably _dz4XX-Y9-E-00014-00003026-00003229 Carthage in North Africa and even the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00015-00003230-00003520 Atlantic Ocean the civilization spread _dz4XX-Y9-E-00016-00003521-00003818 across the Mediterranean between 1500 BC _dz4XX-Y9-E-00017-00003819-00004204 and 300 BC Phoenicia is an ancient Greek _dz4XX-Y9-E-00018-00004205-00004418 term used to refer to the major export _dz4XX-Y9-E-00019-00004419-00004595 of the region cloth dyed Tyrian purple _dz4XX-Y9-E-00020-00004596-00004817 from the murex mollusk and referred to _dz4XX-Y9-E-00021-00004818-00005006 the major Canaanite port towns not _dz4XX-Y9-E-00022-00005007-00005213 corresponding precisely to Phoenician _dz4XX-Y9-E-00023-00005214-00005366 culture as a whole as it would have been _dz4XX-Y9-E-00024-00005367-00005611 understood natively their civilization _dz4XX-Y9-E-00025-00005612-00005831 was organized in city-states _dz4XX-Y9-E-00026-00005832-00005995 similar to those of ancient Greece _dz4XX-Y9-E-00027-00005996-00006193 perhaps the most notable of which were _dz4XX-Y9-E-00028-00006194-00006503 tyre sidon are wat viridis byblos and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00029-00006504-00006748 carthage each city-state was a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00030-00006750-00006946 politically independent unit and it is _dz4XX-Y9-E-00031-00006947-00007145 uncertain to what extent the Phoenicians _dz4XX-Y9-E-00032-00007145-00007348 view themselves as a single nationality _dz4XX-Y9-E-00033-00007350-00007624 in terms of archaeology language _dz4XX-Y9-E-00034-00007625-00007849 lifestyle and religion there was little _dz4XX-Y9-E-00035-00007850-00008042 to set the Phoenicians apart as markedly _dz4XX-Y9-E-00036-00008043-00008207 different from other residents of the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00037-00008208-00008417 Levant such as their close relatives and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00038-00008418-00008651 neighbors the Israelites around 1050 BC _dz4XX-Y9-E-00039-00008652-00008894 a Phoenician alphabet was used for the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00040-00008895-00009128 writing of Phoenicians it became one of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00041-00009129-00009328 the most widely used writing systems _dz4XX-Y9-E-00042-00009329-00009521 spread by Phoenician merchants across _dz4XX-Y9-E-00043-00009522-00009731 the Mediterranean world where it evolved _dz4XX-Y9-E-00044-00009732-00009892 and was assimilated by many other _dz4XX-Y9-E-00045-00009893-00010070 cultures including the Roman alphabet _dz4XX-Y9-E-00046-00010071-00010814 used by Western civilization today _dz4XX-Y9-E-00047-00010815-00011344 topic etymology _dz4XX-Y9-E-00048-00011345-00011587 the name Phoenicians like Latin PO a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00049-00011588-00011839 edge PO NICUs later Punic as' comes from _dz4XX-Y9-E-00050-00011840-00012094 Greek boy Mike's boy Knights the word _dz4XX-Y9-E-00051-00012095-00012360 find X Linux Mint variably Phoenician _dz4XX-Y9-E-00052-00012361-00012787 person Tyrian purple crimson or date _dz4XX-Y9-E-00053-00012788-00013030 palm and is attested with all three _dz4XX-Y9-E-00054-00013031-00013240 meanings already in homer the mythical _dz4XX-Y9-E-00055-00013241-00013450 bird Phoenix also carries the same name _dz4XX-Y9-E-00056-00013451-00013647 but this meaning is not attested until _dz4XX-Y9-E-00057-00013648-00013849 centuries later the word may be derived _dz4XX-Y9-E-00058-00013850-00014169 from fee knows he knows blood-red itself _dz4XX-Y9-E-00059-00014170-00014519 possibly related to phonos phonos murder _dz4XX-Y9-E-00060-00014520-00014779 it is difficult to ascertain which _dz4XX-Y9-E-00061-00014780-00014935 meaning came first but it is _dz4XX-Y9-E-00062-00014936-00015105 understandable how Greeks may have _dz4XX-Y9-E-00063-00015106-00015319 associated the crimson or purple color _dz4XX-Y9-E-00064-00015319-00015499 of dates and died with the merchants who _dz4XX-Y9-E-00065-00015500-00015802 traded both products Robert espy beaks _dz4XX-Y9-E-00066-00015803-00016024 has suggested a pre Greek origin of the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00067-00016025-00016300 ethnonym the oldest attested form of the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00068-00016301-00016530 word in Greek may be the Mycenaean Pony _dz4XX-Y9-E-00069-00016531-00016794 key Joe Pony key possibly borrowed from _dz4XX-Y9-E-00070-00016795-00017005 ancient Egyptian fnh literally _dz4XX-Y9-E-00071-00017006-00017374 carpenters woodcutters likely in _dz4XX-Y9-E-00072-00017375-00017569 reference to the famed Lebanon Cedars _dz4XX-Y9-E-00073-00017570-00017716 for which the Phoenicians were well _dz4XX-Y9-E-00074-00017717-00017878 known although this derivation is _dz4XX-Y9-E-00075-00017879-00018139 disputed the folk etymological _dz4XX-Y9-E-00076-00018140-00018358 association of Wendy Kay with Phoenix _dz4XX-Y9-E-00077-00018359-00018547 mirrors that in Akkadian which tied _dz4XX-Y9-E-00078-00018548-00018844 Kennedy Kenna high Kamin to Kenna hue _dz4XX-Y9-E-00079-00018845-00019003 red dyed wool _dz4XX-Y9-E-00080-00019004-00019243 the land was natively known as KNN _dz4XX-Y9-E-00081-00019244-00019581 compared oblate konanov um phn khan na _dz4XX-Y9-E-00082-00019582-00019894 na and its people as the KNN why in the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00083-00019895-00020140 Amarna letters of the 14th century BC _dz4XX-Y9-E-00084-00020141-00020308 people from the region called themselves _dz4XX-Y9-E-00085-00020309-00020563 Kennedy or Kanani in modern English _dz4XX-Y9-E-00086-00020564-00020755 understood is equivalent to Canaanite _dz4XX-Y9-E-00087-00020756-00021103 much later in the 6th century BC hecka _dz4XX-Y9-E-00088-00021104-00021316 Dias of Miletus writes that Venetia was _dz4XX-Y9-E-00089-00021317-00021571 formerly called schnike Ahn a a name _dz4XX-Y9-E-00090-00021572-00021802 that filo of byblos later adopted into _dz4XX-Y9-E-00091-00021803-00021975 his mythology as his eponym for the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00092-00021976-00022252 Phoenicians KH na who was afterwards _dz4XX-Y9-E-00093-00022253-00022584 called Phoenix the ethnonym survived in _dz4XX-Y9-E-00094-00022585-00022858 North Africa until the 4th century AD C _dz4XX-Y9-E-00095-00022859-00023453 Punic language _dz4XX-Y9-E-00096-00023454-00023949 topic history _dz4XX-Y9-E-00097-00023950-00024293 you _dz4XX-Y9-E-00098-00024294-00024799 topic origins _dz4XX-Y9-E-00099-00024800-00025139 Herodotus's account written see 440 BC _dz4XX-Y9-E-00100-00025140-00025385 refers to the myths of IO and Europa _dz4XX-Y9-E-00101-00025386-00025589 according to the Persians best informed _dz4XX-Y9-E-00102-00025590-00025661 in history _dz4XX-Y9-E-00103-00025662-00025903 the Phoenicians began the quarrel these _dz4XX-Y9-E-00104-00025904-00026089 people who had formerly dwelt on the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00105-00026091-00026261 shores of the erythro and sea having _dz4XX-Y9-E-00106-00026262-00026437 migrated to the Mediterranean and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00107-00026438-00026587 settled in the parts which they now _dz4XX-Y9-E-00108-00026588-00026744 inhabit began at once _dz4XX-Y9-E-00109-00026745-00026920 they say to adventure on long voyages _dz4XX-Y9-E-00110-00026922-00027127 raiding their vessels with the wares of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00111-00027129-00027351 Egypt in Assyria _dz4XX-Y9-E-00112-00027352-00027596 the Greek historian Strabo believed that _dz4XX-Y9-E-00113-00027597-00027790 the Phoenicians originated from Bahrain _dz4XX-Y9-E-00114-00027791-00027999 Herodotus also believed that the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00115-00028000-00028176 homeland of the Phoenicians was Bahrain _dz4XX-Y9-E-00116-00028177-00028427 this theory was accepted by the 19th _dz4XX-Y9-E-00117-00028428-00028662 century German classicist Arnold hiren _dz4XX-Y9-E-00118-00028663-00028902 who said that in the Greek geographers _dz4XX-Y9-E-00119-00028902-00029127 for instance we read of two Islands _dz4XX-Y9-E-00120-00029127-00029405 named Tyrus er tyla's anuradha's which _dz4XX-Y9-E-00121-00029406-00029546 boasted that they were the mother _dz4XX-Y9-E-00122-00029547-00029745 country of the Phoenicians and exhibited _dz4XX-Y9-E-00123-00029745-00030095 relics of Phoenician temples the people _dz4XX-Y9-E-00124-00030097-00030333 of Tyre in south Lebanon in particular _dz4XX-Y9-E-00125-00030333-00030486 have long maintained Persian Gulf _dz4XX-Y9-E-00126-00030487-00030701 origins and the similarity in the words _dz4XX-Y9-E-00127-00030702-00031143 tylose and Tyre has been commented upon _dz4XX-Y9-E-00128-00031144-00031389 the Dillman civilization thrived in _dz4XX-Y9-E-00129-00031389-00031689 Bahrain during the period to 200 1 600 _dz4XX-Y9-E-00130-00031689-00031932 BC as shown by excavations of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00131-00031933-00032129 settlements and Dillman burial mounds _dz4XX-Y9-E-00132-00032130-00032364 however some claim there is little _dz4XX-Y9-E-00133-00032364-00032583 evidence of occupation at all in Bahrain _dz4XX-Y9-E-00134-00032583-00032793 during the time when such migration had _dz4XX-Y9-E-00135-00032794-00033012 supposedly taken place Canaanite culture _dz4XX-Y9-E-00136-00033013-00033270 apparently developed in situ from the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00137-00033271-00033502 earlier gazillion Chalcolithic culture _dz4XX-Y9-E-00138-00033503-00033726 Basilian itself developed from the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00139-00033727-00033974 circum arabian nomadic pastoral complex _dz4XX-Y9-E-00140-00033975-00034176 which in turn developed from a fusion of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00141-00034177-00034386 their ancestral Natufian and her Fe and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00142-00034387-00034664 cultures with pre pottery Neolithic B PP _dz4XX-Y9-E-00143-00034665-00034895 and be farming cultures practicing the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00144-00034896-00035079 domestication of animals during the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00145-00035080-00035376 6,200 BC climatic crisis which led to _dz4XX-Y9-E-00146-00035377-00035593 the Neolithic Revolution in the Levant _dz4XX-Y9-E-00147-00035594-00035880 byblos as attested as an archaeological _dz4XX-Y9-E-00148-00035881-00036152 site from the early Bronze Age the late _dz4XX-Y9-E-00149-00036153-00036330 bronze age state of current is _dz4XX-Y9-E-00150-00036331-00036518 considered quintessentially Canaanite _dz4XX-Y9-E-00151-00036519-00036680 archaeologically even though the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00152-00036681-00036873 Ugaritic language does not belong to the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00153-00036874-00037505 Canaanite languages proper _dz4XX-Y9-E-00154-00037506-00038030 topic Phoenician alphabet _dz4XX-Y9-E-00155-00038031-00038301 the Phoenician alphabet consists of 22 _dz4XX-Y9-E-00156-00038302-00038570 letters all consonants starting around _dz4XX-Y9-E-00157-00038571-00038835 1050 BC this script was used for the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00158-00038836-00038985 writing of Phoenicians a northern _dz4XX-Y9-E-00159-00038986-00039245 Semitic language it is believed to be _dz4XX-Y9-E-00160-00039246-00039454 one of the ancestors of modern alphabets _dz4XX-Y9-E-00161-00039455-00039732 by their maritime trade the Phoenicians _dz4XX-Y9-E-00162-00039733-00039893 spread the use of the alphabet to _dz4XX-Y9-E-00163-00039894-00040139 Anatolia North Africa and Europe where _dz4XX-Y9-E-00164-00040140-00040283 it was adopted by the Greeks who _dz4XX-Y9-E-00165-00040284-00040473 developed it into an alphabetic script _dz4XX-Y9-E-00166-00040474-00040655 to have distinct letters for vowels as _dz4XX-Y9-E-00167-00040656-00040889 well as consonants the name Phoenician _dz4XX-Y9-E-00168-00040890-00041154 is by convention given to inscriptions _dz4XX-Y9-E-00169-00041155-00041379 beginning around 1050 BC because _dz4XX-Y9-E-00170-00041380-00041592 Phoenician Hebrew and other Canaanite _dz4XX-Y9-E-00171-00041593-00041738 dialects were largely indistinguishable _dz4XX-Y9-E-00172-00041739-00042054 before that time the so called a Hyrum _dz4XX-Y9-E-00173-00042055-00042279 epitaph engraved on the sarcophagus of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00174-00042280-00042554 kina Hyrum from about 1000 BC shows _dz4XX-Y9-E-00175-00042555-00042761 essentially a fully developed Phoenician _dz4XX-Y9-E-00176-00042762-00042932 script the Phoenicians were among the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00177-00042933-00043130 first state-level societies to make _dz4XX-Y9-E-00178-00043131-00043364 extensive use of alphabets the family of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00179-00043365-00043604 Canaanite languages spoken by Israelites _dz4XX-Y9-E-00180-00043605-00043889 Phoenicians Amorites ammonites Moabites _dz4XX-Y9-E-00181-00043890-00044099 and was the first historically _dz4XX-Y9-E-00182-00044100-00044301 attested group of languages to use an _dz4XX-Y9-E-00183-00044302-00044465 alphabet derived from the protec _dz4XX-Y9-E-00184-00044466-00044645 Canaanites script to record the writings _dz4XX-Y9-E-00185-00044646-00044933 the protec Canaanites script uses around _dz4XX-Y9-E-00186-00044934-00045179 30 symbols but was not widely used until _dz4XX-Y9-E-00187-00045180-00045357 the rise of new Semitic kingdoms in the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00188-00045358-00045657 thirteenth and twelfth centuries BC the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00189-00045658-00045836 protic Anna Knight script is derived _dz4XX-Y9-E-00190-00045837-00046426 from Egyptian hieroglyphs _dz4XX-Y9-E-00191-00046427-00047230 topic highpoint 1200 to 800 BC Fernand _dz4XX-Y9-E-00192-00047231-00047419 Braudel remarked in the perspective of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00193-00047420-00047584 the world that Phoenicia was an early _dz4XX-Y9-E-00194-00047585-00047920 example of a world economy surrounded by _dz4XX-Y9-E-00195-00047921-00048142 empires the high point of Phoenician _dz4XX-Y9-E-00196-00048143-00048349 culture and sea power is usually placed _dz4XX-Y9-E-00197-00048350-00048796 see 1,200 to 800 BC archaeological _dz4XX-Y9-E-00198-00048797-00048937 evidence consistent with this _dz4XX-Y9-E-00199-00048938-00049105 understanding has been difficult to _dz4XX-Y9-E-00200-00049106-00049366 identify a unique concentration in _dz4XX-Y9-E-00201-00049367-00049582 Phoenicia of silver hordes dated between _dz4XX-Y9-E-00202-00049583-00049910 1200 and 800 BC however contains hac _dz4XX-Y9-E-00203-00049911-00050146 silver with lead isotope ratios matching _dz4XX-Y9-E-00204-00050147-00050449 ores in Sardinia and Spain this metallic _dz4XX-Y9-E-00205-00050450-00050605 evidence agrees with the biblical _dz4XX-Y9-E-00206-00050606-00050790 attestation of the western Mediterranean _dz4XX-Y9-E-00207-00050791-00051019 Tarshish said to have supplied King _dz4XX-Y9-E-00208-00051020-00051211 Solomon of Israel with silver via _dz4XX-Y9-E-00209-00051212-00051424 Phoenicia during the latter's heyday see _dz4XX-Y9-E-00210-00051425-00051749 trade below many of the most important _dz4XX-Y9-E-00211-00051750-00051880 Phoenician settlements had been _dz4XX-Y9-E-00212-00051881-00052132 established long before this byblos tyre _dz4XX-Y9-E-00213-00052133-00052448 in south Lebanon Sidon simra are wat and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00214-00052449-00052651 viridis the capital of Lebanon all _dz4XX-Y9-E-00215-00052652-00052954 appear in the Amarna tablets the League _dz4XX-Y9-E-00216-00052955-00053159 of independent city-state ports with _dz4XX-Y9-E-00217-00053160-00053315 others on the islands and along other _dz4XX-Y9-E-00218-00053316-00053518 coasts of the Mediterranean Sea was _dz4XX-Y9-E-00219-00053519-00053701 ideally suited for trade between the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00220-00053702-00053873 Levant area rich in natural resources _dz4XX-Y9-E-00221-00053874-00054187 and the rest of the ancient world around _dz4XX-Y9-E-00222-00054188-00054454 1200 BC a series of poorly understood _dz4XX-Y9-E-00223-00054455-00054655 events weakened and destroyed the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00224-00054656-00054848 adjacent Egyptian and hid height empires _dz4XX-Y9-E-00225-00054849-00055148 in the resulting power vacuum a number _dz4XX-Y9-E-00226-00055149-00055354 of Phoenician cities Rose's significant _dz4XX-Y9-E-00227-00055355-00055669 maritime powers Phoenician societies _dz4XX-Y9-E-00228-00055670-00055894 rested on three power bases the King _dz4XX-Y9-E-00229-00055895-00056107 temples and their priests and councils _dz4XX-Y9-E-00230-00056108-00056390 of elders byblos first became the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00231-00056391-00056536 predominant centre from where the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00232-00056537-00056680 Phoenicians dominated the Mediterranean _dz4XX-Y9-E-00233-00056681-00057011 and erythraean red sea routes it was _dz4XX-Y9-E-00234-00057012-00057181 here that the first inscription in the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00235-00057182-00057361 Phoenician alphabet was found on the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00236-00057362-00057698 sarcophagus of a Hyrum C 1200 BC later _dz4XX-Y9-E-00237-00057699-00057918 tyre in south Lebanon gained in power _dz4XX-Y9-E-00238-00057919-00058228 one of its Kings the priests Ethel Ball _dz4XX-Y9-E-00239-00058229-00058651 887 to 856 BC ruled Phoenicia as far _dz4XX-Y9-E-00240-00058652-00058873 north as Beirut and part of Cyprus _dz4XX-Y9-E-00241-00058874-00059204 Carthage was founded in 814 BC under _dz4XX-Y9-E-00242-00059204-00059641 Pygmalion of tyre 822 774 BC _dz4XX-Y9-E-00243-00059641-00059827 the collection of city-states _dz4XX-Y9-E-00244-00059828-00060013 constituting Phoenicia came to be _dz4XX-Y9-E-00245-00060014-00060196 characterized by outsiders in the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00246-00060197-00060408 Phoenicians as Sidonia arteria _dz4XX-Y9-E-00247-00060409-00060630 Phoenicians and Canaanites alike were _dz4XX-Y9-E-00248-00060632-00060841 called Sidonians or Tyrians as one _dz4XX-Y9-E-00249-00060841-00061041 Phoenician city came to prominence after _dz4XX-Y9-E-00250-00061042-00061563 another _dz4XX-Y9-E-00251-00061564-00062361 topic decline 539 265 BC _dz4XX-Y9-E-00252-00062362-00062689 you _dz4XX-Y9-E-00253-00062690-00063178 topic Persian rule _dz4XX-Y9-E-00254-00063179-00063415 Persian king Cyrus the Great conquered _dz4XX-Y9-E-00255-00063416-00063802 Phoenicia in 539 BC the Persians then _dz4XX-Y9-E-00256-00063803-00063997 divided Phoenicia into four vassal _dz4XX-Y9-E-00257-00063998-00064297 kingdoms Sidon tyre our wad and byblos _dz4XX-Y9-E-00258-00064298-00064573 they prospered furnishing fleets for _dz4XX-Y9-E-00259-00064574-00064791 Persian kings Phoenicians influence _dz4XX-Y9-E-00260-00064792-00065257 declined after this in 350 or 345 BC a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00261-00065258-00065470 rebellion inside and led by Tennys was _dz4XX-Y9-E-00262-00065471-00065728 crushed by artaxerxes the third its _dz4XX-Y9-E-00263-00065729-00065944 destruction was described by Diodorus _dz4XX-Y9-E-00264-00065945-00066430 Siculus _dz4XX-Y9-E-00265-00066431-00066967 topic macedonian rule _dz4XX-Y9-E-00266-00066968-00067310 Alexander the Great took Tyre in 332 BC _dz4XX-Y9-E-00267-00067311-00067601 after the siege of Tyre Alexander was _dz4XX-Y9-E-00268-00067602-00067841 exceptionally harsh to tyre executing _dz4XX-Y9-E-00269-00067842-00068054 2,000 of the leading citizens but he _dz4XX-Y9-E-00270-00068055-00068291 maintained the king in power he gained _dz4XX-Y9-E-00271-00068292-00068486 control of the other cities peacefully _dz4XX-Y9-E-00272-00068487-00068684 the ruler of Arad is submitted the king _dz4XX-Y9-E-00273-00068685-00068942 of Sidon was overthrown the rise of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00274-00068943-00069173 Macedon gradually ousted the remnants of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00275-00069174-00069353 finishes former dominance over the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00276-00069354-00069562 eastern Mediterranean trade routes _dz4XX-Y9-E-00277-00069563-00069800 Phoenician culture disappeared entirely _dz4XX-Y9-E-00278-00069801-00070049 in the motherland Carthage continued to _dz4XX-Y9-E-00279-00070050-00070301 flourish in northwest Africa it oversaw _dz4XX-Y9-E-00280-00070302-00070496 the mining of iron and precious metals _dz4XX-Y9-E-00281-00070497-00070709 from Iberia and used its considerable _dz4XX-Y9-E-00282-00070710-00070910 naval power and mercenary armies to _dz4XX-Y9-E-00283-00070911-00071150 protect commercial interests Rome _dz4XX-Y9-E-00284-00071151-00071465 finally destroyed it in 146 BC at the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00285-00071466-00071735 end of the Punic Wars following _dz4XX-Y9-E-00286-00071736-00071948 Alexander the Phoenician homeland was _dz4XX-Y9-E-00287-00071949-00072164 controlled by a succession of Macedonian _dz4XX-Y9-E-00288-00072165-00072464 rulers la Meade in 323 BC Ptolemy the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00289-00072465-00072836 first 320 antagonists the second 315 _dz4XX-Y9-E-00290-00072837-00073342 Demetrius 301 and Seleucus 296 between _dz4XX-Y9-E-00291-00073343-00073733 286 and 197 BC Phoenicia except for _dz4XX-Y9-E-00292-00073734-00073955 Addis fell to the Ptolemies of Egypt who _dz4XX-Y9-E-00293-00073956-00074120 installed the high priests of a star _dz4XX-Y9-E-00294-00074121-00074348 Diaz vassal rulers inside an ich Manas _dz4XX-Y9-E-00295-00074349-00074819 RI tab Nitesh minhas r2 in 197 BC _dz4XX-Y9-E-00296-00074820-00075029 Phoenicia along with Syria reverted to _dz4XX-Y9-E-00297-00075030-00075269 the Seleucids the region became _dz4XX-Y9-E-00298-00075270-00075473 increasingly Hellenized although tyre _dz4XX-Y9-E-00299-00075474-00075809 became autonomous in 126 BC followed by _dz4XX-Y9-E-00300-00075810-00076172 Sidon in 111 Syria including Phoenicia _dz4XX-Y9-E-00301-00076173-00076391 was seized and ruled by King Tigranes _dz4XX-Y9-E-00302-00076392-00076736 the great of Armenia from 82 until 69 BC _dz4XX-Y9-E-00303-00076737-00077075 when he was defeated by luck ulis in 65 _dz4XX-Y9-E-00304-00077076-00077312 BC Pompey finally incorporated the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00305-00077313-00077510 territory as part of the Roman province _dz4XX-Y9-E-00306-00077511-00077582 of Syria _dz4XX-Y9-E-00307-00077583-00077848 Phoenicia became a separate province see _dz4XX-Y9-E-00308-00077849-00078453 200 ad _dz4XX-Y9-E-00309-00078454-00078986 topic demographics _dz4XX-Y9-E-00310-00078987-00079328 you _dz4XX-Y9-E-00311-00079329-00079866 topic genetic studies _dz4XX-Y9-E-00312-00079867-00080121 a study by Pierre Zhou Lua and others _dz4XX-Y9-E-00313-00080122-00080379 2008 claimed that six subclades of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00314-00080380-00080865 haplogroup j2 JM 172 j2 in particular _dz4XX-Y9-E-00315-00080866-00081159 were a Phoenician signature amongst _dz4XX-Y9-E-00316-00081160-00081420 modern male populations tested in the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00317-00081421-00081642 coastal Lebanese Phoenician Heartland _dz4XX-Y9-E-00318-00081643-00081843 and the broader area of the rest of the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00319-00081844-00082194 Levant the Phoenician periphery quote _dz4XX-Y9-E-00320-00082195-00082470 closing parentheses quote followed by _dz4XX-Y9-E-00321-00082471-00082773 Cyprus and south Turkey then Crete then _dz4XX-Y9-E-00322-00082774-00082995 Malta and East Sicily then South _dz4XX-Y9-E-00323-00082996-00083280 Sardinia Ibiza and southern Spain and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00324-00083281-00083544 finally coastal Tunisia and cities like _dz4XX-Y9-E-00325-00083545-00083910 Pingris SiC in Morocco samples from _dz4XX-Y9-E-00326-00083911-00084114 other areas with significant Phoenician _dz4XX-Y9-E-00327-00084115-00084318 settlements in Libya and southern France _dz4XX-Y9-E-00328-00084319-00084519 could not be included this deliberately _dz4XX-Y9-E-00329-00084520-00084720 sequential sampling represented an _dz4XX-Y9-E-00330-00084721-00084924 attempt to develop a methodology that _dz4XX-Y9-E-00331-00084925-00085077 could link the documented historical _dz4XX-Y9-E-00332-00085078-00085275 expansion of a population with a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00333-00085276-00085512 particular geographic genetic pattern or _dz4XX-Y9-E-00334-00085513-00085794 patterns the researchers suggested that _dz4XX-Y9-E-00335-00085795-00085983 the proposed genetic signature stemmed _dz4XX-Y9-E-00336-00085984-00086265 from a common source of related lineages _dz4XX-Y9-E-00337-00086266-00086397 routed in Lebanon _dz4XX-Y9-E-00338-00086398-00086625 none of the geographical communities _dz4XX-Y9-E-00339-00086626-00086862 tested Salewa pointed out subsequently _dz4XX-Y9-E-00340-00086863-00087138 2013 carried significantly higher levels _dz4XX-Y9-E-00341-00087139-00087375 of the proposed Phoenician signature _dz4XX-Y9-E-00342-00087376-00087627 than the others this suggested that _dz4XX-Y9-E-00343-00087628-00087840 genetic variation preceded religious _dz4XX-Y9-E-00344-00087841-00088053 variation and divisions and by the time _dz4XX-Y9-E-00345-00088054-00088311 it became Phoenicia Lebanon already had _dz4XX-Y9-E-00346-00088312-00088518 well differentiated communities with _dz4XX-Y9-E-00347-00088519-00088752 their own genetic peculiarities but not _dz4XX-Y9-E-00348-00088753-00088980 significant differences and religions _dz4XX-Y9-E-00349-00088981-00089307 came as layers of paint on top another _dz4XX-Y9-E-00350-00089308-00089493 study found evidence for genetic _dz4XX-Y9-E-00351-00089494-00089643 persistence on the island of Ibiza _dz4XX-Y9-E-00352-00089644-00089945 Levantine Semites Lebanese Jews _dz4XX-Y9-E-00353-00089946-00090225 Palestinians and Syrians are thought to _dz4XX-Y9-E-00354-00090226-00090414 be the closest surviving relatives of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00355-00090415-00090591 the ancient Phoenicians with as much as _dz4XX-Y9-E-00356-00090592-00090795 90 percent genetic similarity between _dz4XX-Y9-E-00357-00090796-00091047 modern Lebanese and Bronze Age Sidonians _dz4XX-Y9-E-00358-00091048-00091392 in 2016 a sixth century BC skeleton of a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00359-00091393-00091623 young Carthaginian man excavated from a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00360-00091624-00091827 Punic tomb in Bursa Hill was found to _dz4XX-Y9-E-00361-00091828-00092070 belong to the rare u5b to see one _dz4XX-Y9-E-00362-00092071-00092352 maternal haplogroup the lineage of this _dz4XX-Y9-E-00363-00092353-00092544 young man of Bursa _dz4XX-Y9-E-00364-00092545-00092781 is believed to represent early gene flow _dz4XX-Y9-E-00365-00092782-00093091 from Iberia to the Maghreb _dz4XX-Y9-E-00366-00093092-00093439 you _dz4XX-Y9-E-00367-00093440-00093943 topic economy _dz4XX-Y9-E-00368-00093944-00094286 you _dz4XX-Y9-E-00369-00094287-00094761 topic trade _dz4XX-Y9-E-00370-00094762-00094953 the Phoenicians were among the greatest _dz4XX-Y9-E-00371-00094954-00095139 traders of their time and owed much of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00372-00095140-00095421 their prosperity to trade at first they _dz4XX-Y9-E-00373-00095422-00095616 traded mainly with the Greeks trading _dz4XX-Y9-E-00374-00095617-00095865 wood slaves glass and powdered Tyrian _dz4XX-Y9-E-00375-00095866-00096165 purple Tyrian purple was a violet purple _dz4XX-Y9-E-00376-00096166-00096354 dye used by the Greek elite to color _dz4XX-Y9-E-00377-00096355-00096633 garments in fact the word Phoenicians _dz4XX-Y9-E-00378-00096634-00096807 derives from the ancient Greek word for _dz4XX-Y9-E-00379-00096808-00097134 nose meaning purple as trading and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00380-00097135-00097353 colonizing spread over the Mediterranean _dz4XX-Y9-E-00381-00097354-00097539 Phoenicians and Greeks seem to have _dz4XX-Y9-E-00382-00097540-00097743 split that sea and two the Phoenicians _dz4XX-Y9-E-00383-00097744-00097944 sailed along and eventually dominated _dz4XX-Y9-E-00384-00097945-00098109 the southern shore while the Greeks were _dz4XX-Y9-E-00385-00098110-00098373 active along the northern shores the two _dz4XX-Y9-E-00386-00098374-00098571 cultures rarely clashed mainly in the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00387-00098572-00098781 Sicilian Wars and eventually settled _dz4XX-Y9-E-00388-00098782-00098955 into two spheres of influence the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00389-00098956-00099123 Phoenicians in the West and the Greek to _dz4XX-Y9-E-00390-00099124-00099495 the east in the centuries after 1200 BC _dz4XX-Y9-E-00391-00099496-00099699 the Phoenicians were the major naval and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00392-00099700-00099954 trading power of the region Phoenician _dz4XX-Y9-E-00393-00099955-00100119 trade was founded on the Tyrian purple _dz4XX-Y9-E-00394-00100120-00100386 dye a violet purple dye derived from the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00395-00100387-00100581 hypo branchial gland of the murex sea _dz4XX-Y9-E-00396-00100582-00100779 snail once profusely available in _dz4XX-Y9-E-00397-00100780-00100887 coastal waters of the eastern _dz4XX-Y9-E-00398-00100888-00101151 Mediterranean Sea but exploited to local _dz4XX-Y9-E-00399-00101152-00101394 extinction James B pritchards _dz4XX-Y9-E-00400-00101395-00101616 excavations at Sarepta in present day _dz4XX-Y9-E-00401-00101617-00101823 Lebanon revealed crushed murex shells _dz4XX-Y9-E-00402-00101824-00102012 and pottery containers stained with the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00403-00102013-00102186 dye that was being produced at the site _dz4XX-Y9-E-00404-00102187-00102450 the Phoenicians established a second _dz4XX-Y9-E-00405-00102451-00102657 production center for the dye in Mogador _dz4XX-Y9-E-00406-00102658-00102924 in present-day Morocco brilliant _dz4XX-Y9-E-00407-00102925-00103098 textiles were a part of Phoenician _dz4XX-Y9-E-00408-00103099-00103275 wealth and Phoenician glass was another _dz4XX-Y9-E-00409-00103276-00103610 export ware to Egypt where grapevines _dz4XX-Y9-E-00410-00103611-00103764 would not grow the eighth century _dz4XX-Y9-E-00411-00103765-00103980 Phoenicians sold wine the wine trade _dz4XX-Y9-E-00412-00103981-00104196 with Egypt has vividly documented by the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00413-00104197-00104493 shipwrecks located in 1997 in the open _dz4XX-Y9-E-00414-00104494-00104735 sea 50 kilometres 30 miles west of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00415-00104736-00105039 Ascalon pottery kilns at Tyre in south _dz4XX-Y9-E-00416-00105040-00105255 Lebanon and Sarepta produced the large _dz4XX-Y9-E-00417-00105256-00105474 terra cotta jars used for transporting _dz4XX-Y9-E-00418-00105475-00105657 wine from Egypt _dz4XX-Y9-E-00419-00105658-00105831 the Phoenicians bought Nubian gold _dz4XX-Y9-E-00420-00105832-00106050 additionally great cedar logs were _dz4XX-Y9-E-00421-00106051-00106224 traded with lumber poor Egypt for _dz4XX-Y9-E-00422-00106225-00106578 significant sums sometime between 1075 _dz4XX-Y9-E-00423-00106579-00106859 and 1060 BC an Egyptian envoy by the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00424-00106860-00107082 name of when Amon visited Phoenicia and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00425-00107083-00107280 secured seven great cedar logs in _dz4XX-Y9-E-00426-00107281-00107475 exchange for a mixed cargo including _dz4XX-Y9-E-00427-00107476-00107829 four crocks and one kak men of gold five _dz4XX-Y9-E-00428-00107830-00108096 silver jugs ten garments of royal _dz4XX-Y9-E-00429-00108097-00108366 ten Kurt of good linen from Upper Egypt _dz4XX-Y9-E-00430-00108367-00108717 500 rolls of finished papyrus 500 cows _dz4XX-Y9-E-00431-00108718-00109092 hides 500 ropes 20 bags of lentils and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00432-00109093-00109440 30 baskets of fish those logs were then _dz4XX-Y9-E-00433-00109441-00109660 moved by ship from Phoenicia to Egypt _dz4XX-Y9-E-00434-00109661-00109893 from elsewhere they obtained other _dz4XX-Y9-E-00435-00109894-00110103 materials perhaps the most important _dz4XX-Y9-E-00436-00110104-00110307 being silver from at least Sardinia and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00437-00110308-00110601 the Iberian Peninsula tin was required _dz4XX-Y9-E-00438-00110602-00110783 which when smelted with copper from _dz4XX-Y9-E-00439-00110784-00111006 cyprus created the durable metal alloy _dz4XX-Y9-E-00440-00111007-00111306 bronze the archaeologists glen marco _dz4XX-Y9-E-00441-00111307-00111549 suggests that 10 may have been acquired _dz4XX-Y9-E-00442-00111550-00111771 from gallaecia by way of the atlantic _dz4XX-Y9-E-00443-00111772-00112034 coast or southern spain alternatively it _dz4XX-Y9-E-00444-00112035-00112215 may have come from northern europe _dz4XX-Y9-E-00445-00112216-00112416 Cornwall or Brittany via the Rhone _dz4XX-Y9-E-00446-00112417-00112764 Valley and coastal miss alia Strabo _dz4XX-Y9-E-00447-00112765-00112929 states that there was a highly lucrative _dz4XX-Y9-E-00448-00112930-00113154 Phoenician trade with Britain 410 via _dz4XX-Y9-E-00449-00113155-00113343 the Kassite rides whose location is _dz4XX-Y9-E-00450-00113344-00113496 unknown but may have been off the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00451-00113497-00113741 northwest coast of the Iberian Peninsula _dz4XX-Y9-E-00452-00113742-00114006 professor Timothy champion discussing _dz4XX-Y9-E-00453-00114007-00114219 Diodorus Siculus his comments on the tin _dz4XX-Y9-E-00454-00114220-00114405 trade states that Diodorus never _dz4XX-Y9-E-00455-00114406-00114570 actually says that the Phoenicians _dz4XX-Y9-E-00456-00114571-00114867 sailed to Cornwall in fact he says quite _dz4XX-Y9-E-00457-00114868-00115053 the opposite the production of Cornish _dz4XX-Y9-E-00458-00115054-00115224 tin was in the hands of the natives of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00459-00115225-00115404 Cornwall and its transport to the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00460-00115405-00115614 Mediterranean was organized by local _dz4XX-Y9-E-00461-00115615-00115803 merchants by C and then overland through _dz4XX-Y9-E-00462-00115804-00116165 France well outside Phoenicians control _dz4XX-Y9-E-00463-00116166-00116459 Tarshish Hebrew Terra sees occurs in the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00464-00116460-00116655 Hebrew Bible with several uncertain _dz4XX-Y9-E-00465-00116656-00116832 meanings and one of the most recurring _dz4XX-Y9-E-00466-00116833-00117045 is that Tarshish is a place probably a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00467-00117046-00117246 city or country that is far from the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00468-00117247-00117461 land of Israel by sea where trade occurs _dz4XX-Y9-E-00469-00117463-00117738 with Israel and Phoenicia it was a place _dz4XX-Y9-E-00470-00117739-00117933 where Phoenicians reportedly obtained _dz4XX-Y9-E-00471-00117933-00118125 different metals particularly silver _dz4XX-Y9-E-00472-00118126-00118353 during the reign of Solomon the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00473-00118354-00118557 Septuagint the Vulgate and the targum of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00474-00118558-00118760 jonathan rendered Tarshish as carthage _dz4XX-Y9-E-00475-00118761-00118968 but other biblical commentators read it _dz4XX-Y9-E-00476-00118969-00119202 as Tartessos perhaps in ancient Hispania _dz4XX-Y9-E-00477-00119203-00119335 Iberian Peninsula _dz4XX-Y9-E-00478-00119336-00119700 William F Albright 1941 and Frank M _dz4XX-Y9-E-00479-00119701-00120042 cross 1972 suggested Tarshish might be _dz4XX-Y9-E-00480-00120043-00120243 or was Sardinia because of the discovery _dz4XX-Y9-E-00481-00120244-00120434 of the Norris stone and Nora fragment _dz4XX-Y9-E-00482-00120435-00120639 the former of which mentions Tarshish in _dz4XX-Y9-E-00483-00120640-00120900 its Phoenician inscription kristine M _dz4XX-Y9-E-00484-00120901-00121211 Thompson 2003 identified a concentration _dz4XX-Y9-E-00485-00121213-00121464 of hex silver hordes dating between sea _dz4XX-Y9-E-00486-00121465-00121791 hundred and 586 BC insist Jordan corpus _dz4XX-Y9-E-00487-00121792-00122088 this silver dominant sister din corpus _dz4XX-Y9-E-00488-00122089-00122271 is unparalleled in the contemporary _dz4XX-Y9-E-00489-00122272-00122442 Mediterranean and within it occurs a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00490-00122443-00122646 unique concentration in Phoenicia of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00491-00122647-00122936 silver hoards dated between 1200 and 800 _dz4XX-Y9-E-00492-00122938-00123252 BC taxol bur objects in these Phoenician _dz4XX-Y9-E-00493-00123253-00123432 hoards have lead isotope ratios that _dz4XX-Y9-E-00494-00123433-00123744 match ores in Sardinia and Spain this _dz4XX-Y9-E-00495-00123745-00123927 metallic evidence agrees with the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00496-00123928-00124074 biblical memory of a western _dz4XX-Y9-E-00497-00124075-00124257 Mediterranean Tarshish that supplied _dz4XX-Y9-E-00498-00124258-00124472 Solomon with silver via Phoenicia _dz4XX-Y9-E-00499-00124473-00124736 Assyrian records indicate Tarshish was _dz4XX-Y9-E-00500-00124738-00124938 an island and the poetic construction of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00501-00124939-00125205 Psalm chapter 72 points to its identity _dz4XX-Y9-E-00502-00125206-00125478 as a large island in the West the island _dz4XX-Y9-E-00503-00125479-00125684 of Sardinia the Phoenicians established _dz4XX-Y9-E-00504-00125685-00125844 commercial outposts throughout the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00505-00125845-00126045 Mediterranean the most strategically _dz4XX-Y9-E-00506-00126046-00126236 important being carthage in northwest _dz4XX-Y9-E-00507-00126238-00126450 africa south east of sardinia on the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00508-00126451-00126747 peninsula of present-day tunisia ancient _dz4XX-Y9-E-00509-00126748-00126918 Gaelic mythologies attribute a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00510-00126919-00127143 Phoenician city an influx to Ireland by _dz4XX-Y9-E-00511-00127144-00127404 a leader called Phineas varsa others _dz4XX-Y9-E-00512-00127405-00127596 also sailed south along the coast of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00513-00127597-00127866 Africa a Carthaginian expedition led by _dz4XX-Y9-E-00514-00127867-00128084 Hondo the Navigator explored and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00515-00128085-00128295 colonized the Atlantic coast of Africa _dz4XX-Y9-E-00516-00128296-00128459 as far as the Gulf of Guinea and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00517-00128460-00128646 according to Herodotus a Phoenician _dz4XX-Y9-E-00518-00128647-00128838 expedition sent down the Red Sea by _dz4XX-Y9-E-00519-00128839-00129183 Pharaoh Necho ii of egypt see 600 BC _dz4XX-Y9-E-00520-00129183-00129426 even circumnavigated Africa and returned _dz4XX-Y9-E-00521-00129427-00129588 through the Pillars of Hercules after _dz4XX-Y9-E-00522-00129589-00129860 three years using gold obtained by _dz4XX-Y9-E-00523-00129861-00130074 expansion of the African coastal trade _dz4XX-Y9-E-00524-00130075-00130283 following the hondo expedition Carthage _dz4XX-Y9-E-00525-00130284-00130572 minted Gold Staters in 350 BC bearing a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00526-00130573-00130758 pattern in the reverse exergy of the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00527-00130758-00130929 coins which mark McMenamin has _dz4XX-Y9-E-00528-00130930-00131085 controversially argued could be _dz4XX-Y9-E-00529-00131086-00131322 interpreted as a map according to _dz4XX-Y9-E-00530-00131323-00131490 McMenamin the Mediterranean is _dz4XX-Y9-E-00531-00131491-00131703 represented as a rectangle in the center _dz4XX-Y9-E-00532-00131704-00131934 a triangle to the right represents India _dz4XX-Y9-E-00533-00131935-00132135 in the east and an irregular shape on _dz4XX-Y9-E-00534-00132136-00132336 the left represents America to the west _dz4XX-Y9-E-00535-00132337-00132534 in the second millennium BC the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00536-00132535-00132704 Phoenicians traded with the Somalis _dz4XX-Y9-E-00537-00132705-00132981 through the Somali city-states of Mosul _dz4XX-Y9-E-00538-00132982-00133266 on apone below sir Appian mundus and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00539-00133267-00133877 Taba trade flourished _dz4XX-Y9-E-00540-00133878-00134406 topic Phoenician ships _dz4XX-Y9-E-00541-00134407-00134643 the Greeks had two names for Phoenician _dz4XX-Y9-E-00542-00134644-00134800 ships hippo and boy _dz4XX-Y9-E-00543-00134801-00135059 gulloy means tubs and hit boy means _dz4XX-Y9-E-00544-00135060-00135318 horses these names are readily explained _dz4XX-Y9-E-00545-00135319-00135527 by depictions of Phoenician ships in the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00546-00135528-00135749 palaces of Assyrian Kings from the 7th _dz4XX-Y9-E-00547-00135750-00135945 and 8th centuries as the ships in these _dz4XX-Y9-E-00548-00135946-00136148 images are tub shaped galore and have _dz4XX-Y9-E-00549-00136149-00136349 horse heads on the ends of them hippo _dz4XX-Y9-E-00550-00136350-00136593 it is possible that these hippo come _dz4XX-Y9-E-00551-00136594-00136746 from Phoenician connections with the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00552-00136747-00136922 Greek god Poseidon equated with the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00553-00136923-00137204 Semitic god yam _dz4XX-Y9-E-00554-00137205-00137513 in 2014 a Phoenician trading ship dating _dz4XX-Y9-E-00555-00137514-00137879 to 700 BC was found near Gozo Island the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00556-00137880-00138089 vessel was about 50 feet long which _dz4XX-Y9-E-00557-00138090-00138798 contained 50m free full of wine and oil _dz4XX-Y9-E-00558-00138799-00139274 topic depictions _dz4XX-Y9-E-00559-00139275-00139579 the tell Bailiwick gates 850 BC are _dz4XX-Y9-E-00560-00139580-00139789 found in the palace of Shulman easer 3 _dz4XX-Y9-E-00561-00139790-00140069 an Assyrian King near Nimrod they are _dz4XX-Y9-E-00562-00140070-00140261 made of bronze and may portray ships _dz4XX-Y9-E-00563-00140262-00140415 coming to honor shall man Deezer _dz4XX-Y9-E-00564-00140416-00140735 the course of ad bar relief 7th century _dz4XX-Y9-E-00565-00140736-00140981 BC shows the transportation of timber _dz4XX-Y9-E-00566-00140982-00141263 most likely cedar from Lebanon it is _dz4XX-Y9-E-00567-00141264-00141449 found in the palace built specifically _dz4XX-Y9-E-00568-00141450-00141707 for Sargon - another Assyrian King at _dz4XX-Y9-E-00569-00141708-00142395 Khorsabad now northern Iraq _dz4XX-Y9-E-00570-00142396-00143090 topic important cities and colonies from _dz4XX-Y9-E-00571-00143091-00143312 the 10th century BC the Phoenicians _dz4XX-Y9-E-00572-00143313-00143484 expansive culture led them to establish _dz4XX-Y9-E-00573-00143485-00143678 cities and colonies throughout the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00574-00143679-00143943 Mediterranean Canaanite deities like _dz4XX-Y9-E-00575-00143944-00144128 Baal and Astarte were being worshiped _dz4XX-Y9-E-00576-00144129-00144270 from Cyprus to Sardinia _dz4XX-Y9-E-00577-00144271-00144554 Malta Sicily Spain Portugal and most _dz4XX-Y9-E-00578-00144555-00144756 notably at Carthage car Hadassah in _dz4XX-Y9-E-00579-00144757-00145360 modern Tunisia _dz4XX-Y9-E-00580-00145361-00145857 topic culture _dz4XX-Y9-E-00581-00145858-00146199 you _dz4XX-Y9-E-00582-00146200-00146684 topic language _dz4XX-Y9-E-00583-00146685-00146906 the Phoenician alphabet was one of the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00584-00146907-00147095 first continental alphabets with a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00585-00147096-00147374 strict and consistent form it is assumed _dz4XX-Y9-E-00586-00147375-00147562 that it adopted its simplified linear _dz4XX-Y9-E-00587-00147563-00147734 characters from an as-yet unattested _dz4XX-Y9-E-00588-00147735-00147911 early pictorial Semitic alphabet _dz4XX-Y9-E-00589-00147912-00148133 developed some centuries earlier in the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00590-00148134-00148382 southern Levant it is likely that the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00591-00148383-00148576 precursor to the Phoenician alphabet was _dz4XX-Y9-E-00592-00148577-00148787 of Egyptian origin since middle Bronze _dz4XX-Y9-E-00593-00148788-00148963 Age alphabets from the southern Levant _dz4XX-Y9-E-00594-00148964-00149183 resemble Egyptian hieroglyphs or an _dz4XX-Y9-E-00595-00149184-00149401 early alphabetic writing system found at _dz4XX-Y9-E-00596-00149402-00149623 Wadi el whole in central Egypt in _dz4XX-Y9-E-00597-00149624-00149887 addition to being preceded by protic Ana _dz4XX-Y9-E-00598-00149888-00150088 Knight the Phoenician alphabet was also _dz4XX-Y9-E-00599-00150089-00150274 preceded by an alphabetic script of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00600-00150275-00150577 Mesopotamian origin called Ugaritic the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00601-00150578-00150724 development of the Phoenician alphabet _dz4XX-Y9-E-00602-00150725-00150961 from the product Canaanite coincided _dz4XX-Y9-E-00603-00150962-00151121 with the rise of the Iron Age in the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00604-00151122-00151402 11th century BC this alphabet has been _dz4XX-Y9-E-00605-00151403-00151643 termed an abjad that is a script that _dz4XX-Y9-E-00606-00151644-00151891 contains no vowels from the first four _dz4XX-Y9-E-00607-00151892-00152219 letters Aleph Beth gimel and da let the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00608-00152220-00152401 oldest known representation of the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00609-00152402-00152597 Phoenician alphabet as inscribed on the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00610-00152598-00152819 sarcophagus of King Hyrum of Byblos _dz4XX-Y9-E-00611-00152820-00153049 dating to the 11th century BC at the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00612-00153050-00153328 latest Phoenician inscriptions are found _dz4XX-Y9-E-00613-00153329-00153620 in Lebanon Syria Israel Cyprus and other _dz4XX-Y9-E-00614-00153621-00153821 locations as late as the early centuries _dz4XX-Y9-E-00615-00153822-00154094 of the Christian era the Phoenicians are _dz4XX-Y9-E-00616-00154095-00154256 credited with spreading the Phoenician _dz4XX-Y9-E-00617-00154257-00154424 alphabet throughout the Mediterranean _dz4XX-Y9-E-00618-00154425-00154699 world Phoenician traders disseminated _dz4XX-Y9-E-00619-00154700-00154903 this writing system along Aegean trade _dz4XX-Y9-E-00620-00154904-00155161 routes to Crete in Greece the Greeks _dz4XX-Y9-E-00621-00155162-00155353 adopted the majority of these letters _dz4XX-Y9-E-00622-00155354-00155549 but changed some of them to vowels which _dz4XX-Y9-E-00623-00155550-00155696 were significant in their language _dz4XX-Y9-E-00624-00155697-00155923 giving rise to the first true alphabet _dz4XX-Y9-E-00625-00155924-00156218 the Phoenician language is classified in _dz4XX-Y9-E-00626-00156219-00156383 the Canaanite subgroup of Northwest _dz4XX-Y9-E-00627-00156384-00156628 Semitic it's later descendant in _dz4XX-Y9-E-00628-00156629-00156838 northwest Africa as termed Punic in _dz4XX-Y9-E-00629-00156839-00157063 Phoenician colonies around the western _dz4XX-Y9-E-00630-00157064-00157237 Mediterranean beginning in the 9th _dz4XX-Y9-E-00631-00157238-00157469 century BC Phoenicians evolved into _dz4XX-Y9-E-00632-00157470-00157753 punic punic Phoenician was still spoken _dz4XX-Y9-E-00633-00157754-00158018 in the 5th century AD st. Augustine for _dz4XX-Y9-E-00634-00158019-00158251 example grew up in northwest Africa and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00635-00158252-00158865 was familiar with the language _dz4XX-Y9-E-00636-00158866-00159140 topic art _dz4XX-Y9-E-00637-00159141-00159316 you _dz4XX-Y9-E-00638-00159317-00159506 Phoenician art lacks unique _dz4XX-Y9-E-00639-00159507-00159682 characteristics that might distinguish _dz4XX-Y9-E-00640-00159683-00159940 it from its contemporaries this is due _dz4XX-Y9-E-00641-00159941-00160106 to its being highly influenced by _dz4XX-Y9-E-00642-00160107-00160315 foreign artistic cultures primarily _dz4XX-Y9-E-00643-00160316-00160631 Egypt Greece and Assyria Phoenicians who _dz4XX-Y9-E-00644-00160632-00160795 were taught on the banks of the Nile and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00645-00160796-00160990 the Euphrates gained a wide artistic _dz4XX-Y9-E-00646-00160991-00161188 experience and finally came to create _dz4XX-Y9-E-00647-00161189-00161362 their own art which was an amalgam of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00648-00161363-00161623 foreign models and perspectives in an _dz4XX-Y9-E-00649-00161624-00161758 article from the New York Times _dz4XX-Y9-E-00650-00161759-00162109 published on January 5th 1879 Phoenician _dz4XX-Y9-E-00651-00162110-00162388 art was described by the following he _dz4XX-Y9-E-00652-00162389-00162574 entered into other men's labors and made _dz4XX-Y9-E-00653-00162575-00162673 most of his heritage _dz4XX-Y9-E-00654-00162674-00162979 the Sphinx of Egypt became Asiatic and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00655-00162980-00163193 its new form was transplanted to Nineveh _dz4XX-Y9-E-00656-00163194-00163378 on the one side into Greece on the other _dz4XX-Y9-E-00657-00163379-00163645 the rosettes and other patterns of the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00658-00163646-00163834 babylonian cylinders were introduced _dz4XX-Y9-E-00659-00163835-00164032 into the handiwork of Phoenicia and so _dz4XX-Y9-E-00660-00164033-00164212 passed on to the west while the hero of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00661-00164213-00164420 the ancient Chaldean epic became first _dz4XX-Y9-E-00662-00164421-00164623 the Tyrian mel car and then the Heracles _dz4XX-Y9-E-00663-00164624-00165207 of Hellas _dz4XX-Y9-E-00664-00165208-00165707 topic religion _dz4XX-Y9-E-00665-00165708-00165944 the religious practices and beliefs of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00666-00165945-00166133 Phoenicia were cognate generally to _dz4XX-Y9-E-00667-00166134-00166307 their neighbors in Canaan which in turn _dz4XX-Y9-E-00668-00166308-00166493 shared characteristics common throughout _dz4XX-Y9-E-00669-00166494-00166706 the ancient Semitic world Canaanite _dz4XX-Y9-E-00670-00166707-00166864 religion was more of a public _dz4XX-Y9-E-00671-00166865-00167077 institution than of an individual _dz4XX-Y9-E-00672-00167078-00167422 experience its rights were primarily for _dz4XX-Y9-E-00673-00167423-00167551 city-state purposes _dz4XX-Y9-E-00674-00167552-00167735 payment of taxes by citizens was _dz4XX-Y9-E-00675-00167736-00167929 considered in the category of religious _dz4XX-Y9-E-00676-00167930-00168233 sacrifices unfortunately many of the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00677-00168234-00168412 Phoenician sacred writings known to the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00678-00168413-00168593 ancients have been lost Phoenicians were _dz4XX-Y9-E-00679-00168594-00168841 known for being very religious while _dz4XX-Y9-E-00680-00168842-00169015 there remained favorable aspects _dz4XX-Y9-E-00681-00169016-00169228 regarding Canaanite religion several of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00682-00169229-00169411 its reported practices have been widely _dz4XX-Y9-E-00683-00169412-00169634 criticized in particular temple _dz4XX-Y9-E-00684-00169635-00169934 prostitution and child sacrifice tuffets _dz4XX-Y9-E-00685-00169935-00170197 built to burn their sons and their _dz4XX-Y9-E-00686-00170198-00170444 daughters in the fire are condemned by _dz4XX-Y9-E-00687-00170445-00170756 God in Jeremiah chapter 7 verses 30 to _dz4XX-Y9-E-00688-00170757-00171052 32 and in second Kings chapter 23 verse _dz4XX-Y9-E-00689-00171053-00171475 10 also 1717 notwithstanding these and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00690-00171476-00171640 other important differences cultural _dz4XX-Y9-E-00691-00171641-00171845 religious similarities between the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00692-00171846-00171995 ancient Hebrews and the Phoenicians _dz4XX-Y9-E-00693-00171996-00172283 persistent Canaanite religious mythology _dz4XX-Y9-E-00694-00172284-00172528 does not appear as elaborated compared _dz4XX-Y9-E-00695-00172529-00172675 with existent literature of their _dz4XX-Y9-E-00696-00172676-00172987 cousins Semites in Mesopotamia in Canaan _dz4XX-Y9-E-00697-00172988-00173309 the Supreme God was called el God the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00698-00173310-00173647 son of El was Baal master Lord a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00699-00173648-00173894 powerful dying and rising storm God _dz4XX-Y9-E-00700-00173895-00174151 other gods were called by royal titles _dz4XX-Y9-E-00701-00174152-00174383 as in Mel carte meaning king of the city _dz4XX-Y9-E-00702-00174384-00174770 or Adonis for Lord such epithets may _dz4XX-Y9-E-00703-00174771-00174971 often have been merely local titles for _dz4XX-Y9-E-00704-00174972-00175165 the same deities on the other hand the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00705-00175166-00175327 Phoenicians notorious for being _dz4XX-Y9-E-00706-00175328-00175525 secretive in business might use these _dz4XX-Y9-E-00707-00175526-00175709 nondescript words as cover for the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00708-00175710-00175922 secluded name of the God known only to a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00709-00175923-00176120 select few initiated into the inmost _dz4XX-Y9-E-00710-00176121-00176341 circle are not even used by them much as _dz4XX-Y9-E-00711-00176342-00176515 their neighbours and close relatives the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00712-00176516-00176734 ancient Israelites Judeans sometimes _dz4XX-Y9-E-00713-00176735-00177022 used the honorific Adonai have my lord _dz4XX-Y9-E-00714-00177023-00177241 in place of the Tetragrammaton a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00715-00177242-00177487 practice which became standard if not _dz4XX-Y9-E-00716-00177488-00177683 mandatory in the Second Temple period _dz4XX-Y9-E-00717-00177684-00177893 onward the Semitic Pantheon was well _dz4XX-Y9-E-00718-00177894-00178102 populated which God became primary _dz4XX-Y9-E-00719-00178103-00178312 evidently depended on the exigencies of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00720-00178313-00178560 a particular city state or tribal locale _dz4XX-Y9-E-00721-00178561-00178825 do perhaps to the leading role of the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00722-00178826-00179053 city-state of Tyre it's raining God Mel _dz4XX-Y9-E-00723-00179054-00179093 cart _dz4XX-Y9-E-00724-00179094-00179240 was prominent throughout Phoenicia and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00725-00179241-00179570 overseas also of great general interest _dz4XX-Y9-E-00726-00179571-00179831 was Astarte a form of the Babylonian _dz4XX-Y9-E-00727-00179832-00180077 Ishtar a fertility goddess who also _dz4XX-Y9-E-00728-00180078-00180386 enjoyed regal and matronly aspects the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00729-00180387-00180602 prominent deity Ashman of Sidon was a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00730-00180603-00180806 healing God seemingly cognate with _dz4XX-Y9-E-00731-00180807-00181058 deities such as Adonis possibly a local _dz4XX-Y9-E-00732-00181059-00181373 variant of the same and adas associated _dz4XX-Y9-E-00733-00181374-00181538 with the fertility and harvest myth _dz4XX-Y9-E-00734-00181539-00181748 widespread in the region in this regard _dz4XX-Y9-E-00735-00181749-00181922 Ashman was linked with a star d other _dz4XX-Y9-E-00736-00181923-00182153 like pairings included Ishtar and Tammuz _dz4XX-Y9-E-00737-00182154-00182417 in Babylon and Isis and Osiris in Egypt _dz4XX-Y9-E-00738-00182418-00182588 religious institutions of great _dz4XX-Y9-E-00739-00182589-00182864 antiquity and tyre called Marzu place of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00740-00182865-00183104 reunion did much to foster social _dz4XX-Y9-E-00741-00183105-00183404 bonding in kin loyalty these _dz4XX-Y9-E-00742-00183405-00183602 institutions held banquets for their _dz4XX-Y9-E-00743-00183603-00183839 membership on festival days various _dz4XX-Y9-E-00744-00183840-00184061 Marzu societies developed into elite _dz4XX-Y9-E-00745-00184062-00184253 fraternities becoming very influential _dz4XX-Y9-E-00746-00184254-00184448 in the commercial trade and governance _dz4XX-Y9-E-00747-00184449-00184742 of Tyre as now understood each Marzu _dz4XX-Y9-E-00748-00184743-00184970 originated in the congeniality inspired _dz4XX-Y9-E-00749-00184971-00185174 and then nurtured by a series of ritual _dz4XX-Y9-E-00750-00185175-00185483 meals shared together as trusted kin all _dz4XX-Y9-E-00751-00185484-00185714 held in honor of the deified ancestors _dz4XX-Y9-E-00752-00185715-00185945 later at the Punic city-state of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00753-00185946-00186218 Carthage the citizen body was divided _dz4XX-Y9-E-00754-00186219-00186422 into groups which met at times for _dz4XX-Y9-E-00755-00186423-00186779 common feasts such festival groups may _dz4XX-Y9-E-00756-00186780-00186995 also have composed the voting cohort for _dz4XX-Y9-E-00757-00186996-00187136 selecting members of the city-state's _dz4XX-Y9-E-00758-00187137-00187373 assembly religion in Carthage was based _dz4XX-Y9-E-00759-00187374-00187589 on inherited Phoenician ways of devotion _dz4XX-Y9-E-00760-00187590-00187877 in fact until it's fall embassies from _dz4XX-Y9-E-00761-00187878-00188033 Carthage would regularly make the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00762-00188034-00188216 journey to tyre to worship Mel carte _dz4XX-Y9-E-00763-00188217-00188528 bringing material offerings transplanted _dz4XX-Y9-E-00764-00188529-00188708 to distant Carthage these Phoenician _dz4XX-Y9-E-00765-00188709-00188915 ways persisted but naturally acquired _dz4XX-Y9-E-00766-00188916-00189140 distinctive traits perhaps influenced by _dz4XX-Y9-E-00767-00189141-00189353 a spiritual and cultural evolution or _dz4XX-Y9-E-00768-00189354-00189596 synthesizing berber tribal practices or _dz4XX-Y9-E-00769-00189597-00189755 transforming under the stress of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00770-00189756-00189908 political and economic forces _dz4XX-Y9-E-00771-00189909-00190199 encountered by the city-state over time _dz4XX-Y9-E-00772-00190200-00190352 the original Phoenician exemplar _dz4XX-Y9-E-00773-00190353-00190592 developed distinctly becoming the Punic _dz4XX-Y9-E-00774-00190593-00190826 religion at Carthage the Carthaginians _dz4XX-Y9-E-00775-00190827-00191045 were notorious in antiquity for the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00776-00191046-00191363 intensity of their religious beliefs _dz4XX-Y9-E-00777-00191364-00191600 besides their reputation as merchants _dz4XX-Y9-E-00778-00191601-00191801 the Carthaginians were known in the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00779-00191802-00192016 ancient world for their superstition and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00780-00192017-00192323 intense religiosity they imagined _dz4XX-Y9-E-00781-00192324-00192503 themselves living in a world inhabited _dz4XX-Y9-E-00782-00192504-00192800 by supernatural powers which were mostly _dz4XX-Y9-E-00783-00192801-00193103 malevolent for protection they carried _dz4XX-Y9-E-00784-00193104-00193340 amulets of various origins and had them _dz4XX-Y9-E-00785-00193341-00193613 buried with them when they died at _dz4XX-Y9-E-00786-00193614-00193816 Carthage as at tyre religion was _dz4XX-Y9-E-00787-00193817-00194075 integral to the city's life a committee _dz4XX-Y9-E-00788-00194076-00194261 of ten elders selected by the civil _dz4XX-Y9-E-00789-00194262-00194468 authorities regulated worship and built _dz4XX-Y9-E-00790-00194469-00194723 at temples with public funds some _dz4XX-Y9-E-00791-00194724-00194929 priests hoods were hereditary to certain _dz4XX-Y9-E-00792-00194930-00195178 families Punic inscriptions lists a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00793-00195179-00195410 hierarchy of cowan priests and rhabdo _dz4XX-Y9-E-00794-00195411-00195677 and implored priests each temple was _dz4XX-Y9-E-00795-00195678-00195833 under the supervision of its chief _dz4XX-Y9-E-00796-00195834-00196112 priest or priestess to enter the temple _dz4XX-Y9-E-00797-00196113-00196277 of Esch men one had to abstain from _dz4XX-Y9-E-00798-00196278-00196484 sexual intercourse for three days and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00799-00196485-00196748 from eating beans and pork private _dz4XX-Y9-E-00800-00196749-00196970 citizens also nurtured their own destiny _dz4XX-Y9-E-00801-00196971-00197135 as evidenced by the common use of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00802-00197136-00197411 theophoric personal names eg Hasdrubal _dz4XX-Y9-E-00803-00197412-00197768 he who has balls help and hamilkar Abdel _dz4XX-Y9-E-00804-00197769-00197993 mell cart pledged to the service of Mel _dz4XX-Y9-E-00805-00197994-00198308 cart the city's legendary founder ELISA _dz4XX-Y9-E-00806-00198309-00198529 or Dido was the widow of a charb as the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00807-00198530-00198715 high priest of Tyre in service to its _dz4XX-Y9-E-00808-00198716-00199025 principal deity Mel cart Dido was also _dz4XX-Y9-E-00809-00199026-00199157 attached to the fertility goddess _dz4XX-Y9-E-00810-00199158-00199406 Astarte with her Dido brought not only _dz4XX-Y9-E-00811-00199407-00199607 ritual implements for the worship of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00812-00199608-00199850 Astarte but also her priests and sacred _dz4XX-Y9-E-00813-00199851-00200120 prostitutes taken from cyprus the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00814-00200121-00200333 agricultural turned healing God Ashman _dz4XX-Y9-E-00815-00200334-00200507 was worshipped at Carthage as were other _dz4XX-Y9-E-00816-00200508-00200803 deities Mel carte became supplanted at _dz4XX-Y9-E-00817-00200804-00201002 the Punic city-state by the emergent god _dz4XX-Y9-E-00818-00201003-00201275 Baal Hammon which perhaps means Lord of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00819-00201276-00201533 the altars of incense thought to be an _dz4XX-Y9-E-00820-00201534-00201713 epithet to cloak the gods real name _dz4XX-Y9-E-00821-00201714-00201986 later another newly arisen deity arose _dz4XX-Y9-E-00822-00201987-00202196 eventually to reign supreme at Carthage _dz4XX-Y9-E-00823-00202197-00202421 a goddess of agriculture and generation _dz4XX-Y9-E-00824-00202422-00202663 who manifested a regal Majesty tenant _dz4XX-Y9-E-00825-00202664-00202964 the name Baal Hammon has attracted _dz4XX-Y9-E-00826-00202965-00203156 scholarly interest with most scholars _dz4XX-Y9-E-00827-00203157-00203363 viewing it as a probable derivation from _dz4XX-Y9-E-00828-00203364-00203614 the Northwest Semitic Hammond brazier _dz4XX-Y9-E-00829-00203615-00203840 suggesting the meaning Lord of the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00830-00203841-00204134 brazier this may be supported by incense _dz4XX-Y9-E-00831-00204135-00204338 burners and braziers found depicting the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00832-00204339-00204620 god frank moore cross argued for a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00833-00204621-00204740 connection to Hammond _dz4XX-Y9-E-00834-00204741-00204938 the Ugaritic name for mountainous an _dz4XX-Y9-E-00835-00204939-00205094 ancient name for the newer mountain _dz4XX-Y9-E-00836-00205094-00205334 range modern scholars at first _dz4XX-Y9-E-00837-00205335-00205565 associated Baal Hammon with the Egyptian _dz4XX-Y9-E-00838-00205566-00205790 god Amman of Thebes both the Punic and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00839-00205791-00206054 the Egyptian being gods of the Sun both _dz4XX-Y9-E-00840-00206055-00206269 also had the RAM as a symbol the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00841-00206271-00206456 Egyptian Amman was known to have spread _dz4XX-Y9-E-00842-00206457-00206630 by trade routes to Libyans in the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00843-00206631-00206840 vicinity of modern Tunisia well before _dz4XX-Y9-E-00844-00206841-00207083 arrival of the Phoenicians yet Baal _dz4XX-Y9-E-00845-00207084-00207284 Hammonds derivation from Amman is no _dz4XX-Y9-E-00846-00207285-00207469 longer considered the most likely as _dz4XX-Y9-E-00847-00207471-00207656 Baal Hammon has since been traced to _dz4XX-Y9-E-00848-00207657-00207812 Syria Phoenician origins _dz4XX-Y9-E-00849-00207813-00208090 confirmed by recent finds at tyre Baal _dz4XX-Y9-E-00850-00208091-00208286 Hammon is also presented as a God of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00851-00208287-00208526 agriculture Baal Hammonds power over the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00852-00208527-00208715 land and its fertility rendered him of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00853-00208716-00208891 great appeal to the inhabitants of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00854-00208892-00209081 Tunisia a land of fertile wheat and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00855-00209082-00209361 fruit-bearing plains _dz4XX-Y9-E-00856-00209362-00209637 in Semitic religion l the father of the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00857-00209638-00209865 gods had gradually been shorn of his _dz4XX-Y9-E-00858-00209866-00210102 power by his sons and relegated to a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00859-00210103-00210300 remote part of his heavenly home in _dz4XX-Y9-E-00860-00210301-00210531 Carthage on the other hand he became _dz4XX-Y9-E-00861-00210532-00210773 once more the head of the pantheon under _dz4XX-Y9-E-00862-00210775-00211119 the enigmatic title of Baal Hammon _dz4XX-Y9-E-00863-00211121-00211366 prayers of individual Carthaginians were _dz4XX-Y9-E-00864-00211367-00211608 often addressed to Baal Hammon offerings _dz4XX-Y9-E-00865-00211609-00211837 to Haman all so evidently included child _dz4XX-Y9-E-00866-00211838-00212179 sacrifice Diodorus late first century BC _dz4XX-Y9-E-00867-00212180-00212344 wrote that when Agatha Cleese had _dz4XX-Y9-E-00868-00212344-00212619 attacked Carthage in 310 several hundred _dz4XX-Y9-E-00869-00212621-00212769 children of leading families were _dz4XX-Y9-E-00870-00212771-00212996 sacrificed to regain the God's favor in _dz4XX-Y9-E-00871-00212998-00213301 modern times the French novelist Gustav _dz4XX-Y9-E-00872-00213302-00213633 lo bears 1862 works a lambo graphically _dz4XX-Y9-E-00873-00213634-00213817 featured this God as accepting such _dz4XX-Y9-E-00874-00213817-00214126 sacrifice the goddess tended during the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00875-00214127-00214327 5th and 4th centuries became queen _dz4XX-Y9-E-00876-00214328-00214528 goddess supreme over the city-state of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00877-00214529-00214729 Carthage thus outshining the former _dz4XX-Y9-E-00878-00214730-00214962 chief god and her associate Baal Hammon _dz4XX-Y9-E-00879-00214963-00215278 tenet was represented by palm trees _dz4XX-Y9-E-00880-00215279-00215437 weighed down with dates ripe _dz4XX-Y9-E-00881-00215438-00215706 pomegranates ready to burst Lotus or _dz4XX-Y9-E-00882-00215707-00215955 lilies coming into flower fish doves _dz4XX-Y9-E-00883-00215956-00216177 frogs _dz4XX-Y9-E-00884-00216178-00216435 she gave to mankind a flow of vital _dz4XX-Y9-E-00885-00216436-00216717 energies tenets maybe Berbera Libyan in _dz4XX-Y9-E-00886-00216717-00216909 origin or at least assimilated to a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00887-00216910-00217140 local deity another view supported by _dz4XX-Y9-E-00888-00217141-00217380 recent finds holds that tenet originated _dz4XX-Y9-E-00889-00217381-00217578 in Phoenicia being closely linked there _dz4XX-Y9-E-00890-00217579-00217815 to the goddess Astarte tenets and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00891-00217816-00218048 Astarte each one was both a funerary and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00892-00218050-00218307 a fertility goddess each was a sea _dz4XX-Y9-E-00893-00218308-00218550 goddess as tenet was associated with _dz4XX-Y9-E-00894-00218551-00218787 Baal Hammon the principal God in Punic _dz4XX-Y9-E-00895-00218788-00218979 Carthage so a start II was with L in _dz4XX-Y9-E-00896-00218980-00219219 Phoenicia yet 10 it was clearly _dz4XX-Y9-E-00897-00219219-00219456 distinguished from a star T a star DS _dz4XX-Y9-E-00898-00219457-00219687 heavenly emblem was the planet Venus 10 _dz4XX-Y9-E-00899-00219688-00219915 it's the crescent moon 10 it was _dz4XX-Y9-E-00900-00219916-00220083 portrayed as chaste at Carthage _dz4XX-Y9-E-00901-00220084-00220292 religious prostitution was apparently _dz4XX-Y9-E-00902-00220294-00220569 not practiced yet temple prostitution _dz4XX-Y9-E-00903-00220569-00220773 played an important role in a starties _dz4XX-Y9-E-00904-00220773-00221061 cult at Phoenicia also the Greeks and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00905-00221062-00221246 Romans did not compare Tanit to the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00906-00221248-00221457 Greek Aphrodite nor to the Roman Venus _dz4XX-Y9-E-00907-00221458-00221685 as they would have starting rather the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00908-00221686-00221904 comparison of Tanit would be to Hera and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00909-00221905-00222135 to Juno regal goddesses of marriage or _dz4XX-Y9-E-00910-00222136-00222344 to the goddess Artemis of childbirth in _dz4XX-Y9-E-00911-00222346-00222398 the hunt _dz4XX-Y9-E-00912-00222398-00222765 Tertullian see 160c point two to zero _dz4XX-Y9-E-00913-00222766-00223005 the Christian theologian and native of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00914-00223006-00223230 Carthage wrote comparing Tana to Ceres _dz4XX-Y9-E-00915-00223231-00223425 the Roman mother goddess of agriculture _dz4XX-Y9-E-00916-00223426-00223656 tenet has also been identified with _dz4XX-Y9-E-00917-00223657-00223851 three different Canaanite goddesses all _dz4XX-Y9-E-00918-00223852-00224067 being sisters wives of el the above _dz4XX-Y9-E-00919-00224067-00224334 Astarte the virgin war goddess Anat and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00920-00224335-00224613 the mother goddess L adore a Shura with _dz4XX-Y9-E-00921-00224614-00224811 her being a goddess or symbolizing a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00922-00224812-00225009 psychic archetype accordingly it is _dz4XX-Y9-E-00923-00225010-00225198 difficult to assign a single nature to _dz4XX-Y9-E-00924-00225198-00225387 tenets or clearly to represent her to _dz4XX-Y9-E-00925-00225388-00225591 consciousness a problematic theory _dz4XX-Y9-E-00926-00225592-00225758 derived from sociology of religion _dz4XX-Y9-E-00927-00225759-00225992 proposes that as Carthage passed from _dz4XX-Y9-E-00928-00225994-00226188 being a Phoenician trading station into _dz4XX-Y9-E-00929-00226189-00226383 a wealthy and sovereign city-state and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00930-00226384-00226592 from a monarchy anchored to tyre into a _dz4XX-Y9-E-00931-00226594-00226806 native-born libye Phoenician oligarchy _dz4XX-Y9-E-00932-00226807-00226994 Carthaginians began to turn away from _dz4XX-Y9-E-00933-00226996-00227217 deities associated with Phoenicia and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00934-00227217-00227463 slowly to discover or synthesize a Punic _dz4XX-Y9-E-00935-00227464-00227736 deity the goddess Tennant a parallel _dz4XX-Y9-E-00936-00227737-00227910 theory posits that when Carthage _dz4XX-Y9-E-00937-00227911-00228057 acquired as a source of wealth _dz4XX-Y9-E-00938-00228058-00228303 substantial agricultural lands in Africa _dz4XX-Y9-E-00939-00228304-00228516 a local fertility goddess tenant _dz4XX-Y9-E-00940-00228517-00228696 developed or evolved eventually to _dz4XX-Y9-E-00941-00228696-00228992 become supreme a basis for such theories _dz4XX-Y9-E-00942-00228994-00229152 may well be the religious reform _dz4XX-Y9-E-00943-00229153-00229338 movement that emerged and prevailed at _dz4XX-Y9-E-00944-00229339-00229556 Carthage during the years 390 _dz4XX-Y9-E-00945-00229557-00229890 seven to 360 the catalyst for such _dz4XX-Y9-E-00946-00229891-00230096 dramatic change in Punic religious _dz4XX-Y9-E-00947-00230097-00230297 practice was their recent defeat in war _dz4XX-Y9-E-00948-00230298-00230642 when led by their king he Milko d 396 _dz4XX-Y9-E-00949-00230644-00230906 against the greeks of sicily such _dz4XX-Y9-E-00950-00230907-00231087 transformation of religion would have _dz4XX-Y9-E-00951-00231088-00231294 been instigated by a faction of wealthy _dz4XX-Y9-E-00952-00231294-00231489 landowners at Carthage including these _dz4XX-Y9-E-00953-00231490-00231679 reforms overthrow of the monarchy _dz4XX-Y9-E-00954-00231680-00231947 elevation of Tanit as Queen goddess and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00955-00231948-00232133 decline of Baal Hammon allowance of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00956-00232134-00232331 foreign cults of Greek origin into the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00957-00232332-00232569 city Demeter and core decline in child _dz4XX-Y9-E-00958-00232569-00232778 sacrifice with most votive victims _dz4XX-Y9-E-00959-00232779-00232967 changed to small animals and with the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00960-00232969-00233147 sacrifice not directed for state _dz4XX-Y9-E-00961-00233148-00233342 purposes but when infrequently done _dz4XX-Y9-E-00962-00233344-00233534 performed to solicit the deity for _dz4XX-Y9-E-00963-00233535-00233787 private family favors this bold _dz4XX-Y9-E-00964-00233788-00234012 historical interpretation understands _dz4XX-Y9-E-00965-00234013-00234272 the Reformers motivation as the reaction _dz4XX-Y9-E-00966-00234273-00234479 of the wealthy and cultured upper class _dz4XX-Y9-E-00967-00234480-00234683 against the primitive and antiquated _dz4XX-Y9-E-00968-00234684-00234915 aspects of the Canaanite religion and _dz4XX-Y9-E-00969-00234916-00235154 also a political move intended to break _dz4XX-Y9-E-00970-00235155-00235379 the power of a monarchy which ruled by _dz4XX-Y9-E-00971-00235380-00235737 divine authority the reforms popularity _dz4XX-Y9-E-00972-00235738-00235997 was precarious at first later when the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00973-00235998-00236201 city was in danger of imminent attack in _dz4XX-Y9-E-00974-00236202-00236429 310 there would be a marked regression _dz4XX-Y9-E-00975-00236430-00236717 to child sacrifice yet eventually the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00976-00236719-00236930 cosmopolitan religious reform and the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00977-00236931-00237110 popular worship of tenets together _dz4XX-Y9-E-00978-00237111-00237342 contributed to breaking through the wall _dz4XX-Y9-E-00979-00237342-00237545 of isolation which had surrounded _dz4XX-Y9-E-00980-00237546-00237797 Carthage when the Romans conquered _dz4XX-Y9-E-00981-00237798-00238097 Africa Carthaginian religion was deeply _dz4XX-Y9-E-00982-00238098-00238338 entrenched even in libyan areas and it _dz4XX-Y9-E-00983-00238339-00238539 retained a great deal of its character _dz4XX-Y9-E-00984-00238540-00238890 under different forms tenets became juno _dz4XX-Y9-E-00985-00238891-00239163 calestous and calestous was supreme at _dz4XX-Y9-E-00986-00239164-00239375 carthage itself until the triumph of _dz4XX-Y9-E-00987-00239376-00239621 Christianity just as tenet had been in _dz4XX-Y9-E-00988-00239622-00239991 pre-roman times regarding berber libyan _dz4XX-Y9-E-00989-00239992-00240268 religious beliefs it has also been said _dz4XX-Y9-E-00990-00240269-00240524 berber belief in the powers of the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00991-00240525-00240719 spirits of the ancestors was not _dz4XX-Y9-E-00992-00240720-00240939 eclipsed by the introduction of new gods _dz4XX-Y9-E-00993-00240940-00241220 hamon or Tanit but existed in parallel _dz4XX-Y9-E-00994-00241221-00241508 with them it is this same duality or _dz4XX-Y9-E-00995-00241509-00241767 readiness to adopt new cultural forms _dz4XX-Y9-E-00996-00241767-00241934 while retaining the old on a more _dz4XX-Y9-E-00997-00241935-00242150 intimate level which characterizes the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00998-00242151-00242585 Roman era such Berber ambivalence the _dz4XX-Y9-E-00999-00242586-00242792 ability to entertain multiple mysteries _dz4XX-Y9-E-01000-00242794-00242933 concurrently apparently _dz4XX-Y9-E-01001-00242934-00243092 characterized their religion during the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01002-00243094-00243374 Punic era also after the passing of _dz4XX-Y9-E-01003-00243375-00243591 Punic power the great Berber Kingma _dz4XX-Y9-E-01004-00243592-00243983 Sinisa are 202 to 148 who long fought _dz4XX-Y9-E-01005-00243984-00244169 and challenged Carthage was widely _dz4XX-Y9-E-01006-00244171-00244349 venerated by later generations of _dz4XX-Y9-E-01007-00244350-00244929 Berbers as divine _dz4XX-Y9-E-01008-00244930-00245409 topic deities _dz4XX-Y9-E-01009-00245410-00245727 you _dz4XX-Y9-E-01010-00245728-00246686 topic attested first millennium BC _dz4XX-Y9-E-01011-00246687-00247353 topic attested second millennium BC _dz4XX-Y9-E-01012-00247354-00247692 you _dz4XX-Y9-E-01013-00247694-00248252 topic foreign relations _dz4XX-Y9-E-01014-00248253-00248594 you _dz4XX-Y9-E-01015-00248596-00248892 topic influence in the Mediterranean _dz4XX-Y9-E-01016-00248894-00249442 region Phoenician culture had a huge _dz4XX-Y9-E-01017-00249442-00249589 effect upon the cultures of the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01018-00249590-00249778 Mediterranean basin in the early Iron _dz4XX-Y9-E-01019-00249779-00249964 Age and had been affected by them in _dz4XX-Y9-E-01020-00249965-00250248 turn for example in Phoenicia the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01021-00250250-00250489 tripartite division between ball low and _dz4XX-Y9-E-01022-00250490-00250671 yam seems to have influenced the Greek _dz4XX-Y9-E-01023-00250673-00250898 division between Zeus Hades and Poseidon _dz4XX-Y9-E-01024-00250900-00251200 the tartessos region probably embraced _dz4XX-Y9-E-01025-00251201-00251386 the whole southern part of the Iberian _dz4XX-Y9-E-01026-00251387-00251848 Peninsula strap 3.2.1 one in various _dz4XX-Y9-E-01027-00251848-00252058 Mediterranean ports during the Classical _dz4XX-Y9-E-01028-00252059-00252253 period Phoenician temples sacred to _dz4XX-Y9-E-01029-00252254-00252439 Melchor were recognized as sacred to _dz4XX-Y9-E-01030-00252440-00252715 Greek Hercules stories like the rape of _dz4XX-Y9-E-01031-00252716-00252934 Europa and the coming of Cadmus also _dz4XX-Y9-E-01032-00252935-00253201 draw upon Phoenician influence the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01033-00253202-00253408 recovery of the Mediterranean economy _dz4XX-Y9-E-01034-00253409-00253630 after the Late Bronze Age collapse see _dz4XX-Y9-E-01035-00253631-00253921 1200 BC seems to have been largely due _dz4XX-Y9-E-01036-00253921-00254086 to the work of Phoenician traders and _dz4XX-Y9-E-01037-00254087-00254263 merchants princes who reestablished _dz4XX-Y9-E-01038-00254264-00254461 long-distance trade between Egypt and _dz4XX-Y9-E-01039-00254462-00254815 Mesopotamia in the 10th century BC there _dz4XX-Y9-E-01040-00254816-00255007 are many countries and cities around the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01041-00255008-00255187 Mediterranean region that derived their _dz4XX-Y9-E-01042-00255188-00255444 names from the Phoenician language below _dz4XX-Y9-E-01043-00255446-00255669 is a list with the respective meanings _dz4XX-Y9-E-01044-00255669-00256009 Alta Burris City and Algeria SW of _dz4XX-Y9-E-01045-00256010-00256305 Carthage from Phoenicians ill to brush _dz4XX-Y9-E-01046-00256306-00256623 Bosa City and Sardinia from Phoenician _dz4XX-Y9-E-01047-00256625-00256944 Bisson Cadiz City and Spain from _dz4XX-Y9-E-01048-00256946-00257302 Phoenician Kadir Dali Italian city and _dz4XX-Y9-E-01049-00257303-00257541 central Cyprus from Phoenician ideal _dz4XX-Y9-E-01050-00257542-00257839 Aires City and Sicily from Phoenician _dz4XX-Y9-E-01051-00257840-00258088 erics Malta island in the Mediterranean _dz4XX-Y9-E-01052-00258089-00258526 from Phoenician millat refuge Marion _dz4XX-Y9-E-01053-00258527-00258754 City and West Cyprus from Phoenician _dz4XX-Y9-E-01054-00258755-00259078 amar who had daiquiri City and Algeria _dz4XX-Y9-E-01055-00259079-00259375 from Phoenician I degree Spain from _dz4XX-Y9-E-01056-00259376-00259698 Phoenician - meaning land of hyraxes _dz4XX-Y9-E-01057-00259698-00260094 later latinized as Hispania Carthage _dz4XX-Y9-E-01058-00260096-00260317 City in Tunisia from Phoenician carte _dz4XX-Y9-E-01059-00260317-00260639 Hadassah meaning new city _dz4XX-Y9-E-01060-00260640-00260921 cartagena city in Spain Greek may occur _dz4XX-Y9-E-01061-00260921-00261121 sudana Latin Carthago Nova _dz4XX-Y9-E-01062-00261123-00261358 Spanish Cartagena a colony of Carthage _dz4XX-Y9-E-01063-00261359-00261539 which also gave rise to Cartagena _dz4XX-Y9-E-01064-00261540-00262003 Colombia _dz4XX-Y9-E-01065-00262004-00262564 topic relations with the Greeks _dz4XX-Y9-E-01066-00262565-00262892 you _dz4XX-Y9-E-01067-00262893-00263328 topic trade _dz4XX-Y9-E-01068-00263329-00263586 towards the end of the Bronze Age around _dz4XX-Y9-E-01069-00263587-00263823 1200 BC there was trade between the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01070-00263824-00264036 Canaanites early Phoenicians Egypt _dz4XX-Y9-E-01071-00264037-00264342 Cyprus and Greece in a shipwreck found _dz4XX-Y9-E-01072-00264343-00264525 off of the coast of Turkey the Ulu _dz4XX-Y9-E-01073-00264526-00264699 Buller in wreck Canaanite storage _dz4XX-Y9-E-01074-00264700-00264906 pottery along with pottery from Cyprus _dz4XX-Y9-E-01075-00264907-00265152 and Greece was found the Phoenicians _dz4XX-Y9-E-01076-00265153-00265353 were famous metal workers and by the end _dz4XX-Y9-E-01077-00265354-00265551 of the eighth century BC Greek _dz4XX-Y9-E-01078-00265552-00265758 city-states were sending out on voice to _dz4XX-Y9-E-01079-00265759-00265968 the Levant the eastern Mediterranean for _dz4XX-Y9-E-01080-00265969-00266130 metal goods the height of Phoenician _dz4XX-Y9-E-01081-00266131-00266283 trade was circa the 7th and 8th _dz4XX-Y9-E-01082-00266284-00266589 centuries BC there is a dispersal of _dz4XX-Y9-E-01083-00266590-00266865 imports ceramic stone and fianc from the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01084-00266866-00267021 Levant that traces a Phoenician _dz4XX-Y9-E-01085-00267022-00267204 commercial channel to the Greek mainland _dz4XX-Y9-E-01086-00267205-00267462 via the Central Aegean Athens shows _dz4XX-Y9-E-01087-00267463-00267654 little evidence of this trade with few _dz4XX-Y9-E-01088-00267655-00267876 Eastern imports but other Greek coastal _dz4XX-Y9-E-01089-00267877-00268059 cities are rich with Eastern imports _dz4XX-Y9-E-01090-00268060-00268260 that evidence this trade all Mena is a _dz4XX-Y9-E-01091-00268261-00268470 specific example of the trade that took _dz4XX-Y9-E-01092-00268471-00268605 place between the Greeks and the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01093-00268606-00268677 Phoenicians _dz4XX-Y9-E-01094-00268678-00268908 it has been theorized that by the 8th _dz4XX-Y9-E-01095-00268909-00269187 century BC ubian traders established a _dz4XX-Y9-E-01096-00269188-00269373 commercial enterprise with the Levantine _dz4XX-Y9-E-01097-00269374-00269610 coast and we're using Almina in Syria as _dz4XX-Y9-E-01098-00269611-00269856 a base for this enterprise there is _dz4XX-Y9-E-01099-00269857-00270057 still some question about the veracity _dz4XX-Y9-E-01100-00270058-00270321 of these claims concerning Almina the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01101-00270322-00270498 Phoenicians even got their name from the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01102-00270499-00270726 Greeks due to their trade their most _dz4XX-Y9-E-01103-00270727-00270936 famous trading product was purple dye _dz4XX-Y9-E-01104-00270937-00271588 the Greek word for witches feena's _dz4XX-Y9-E-01105-00271589-00272052 topic alphabet _dz4XX-Y9-E-01106-00272053-00272274 the phoenicians phonetic alphabet was _dz4XX-Y9-E-01107-00272275-00272454 adopted and modified by the Greeks _dz4XX-Y9-E-01108-00272455-00272709 probably in the 8th century BC around _dz4XX-Y9-E-01109-00272710-00272958 the time of the hippo depictions this _dz4XX-Y9-E-01110-00272959-00273120 most likely did not come from a single _dz4XX-Y9-E-01111-00273121-00273324 instance but from a culmination of _dz4XX-Y9-E-01112-00273325-00273579 commercial exchange this means that _dz4XX-Y9-E-01113-00273580-00273741 before the eighth century there was a _dz4XX-Y9-E-01114-00273742-00273918 relationship between the Greeks and the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01115-00273919-00274119 Phoenicians though there is no evidence _dz4XX-Y9-E-01116-00274120-00274377 to support the suggestion it is probable _dz4XX-Y9-E-01117-00274378-00274551 that during this period there was also a _dz4XX-Y9-E-01118-00274552-00274857 passing of religious ideas the legendary _dz4XX-Y9-E-01119-00274858-00275091 Phoenician hero Cadmus is credited with _dz4XX-Y9-E-01120-00275092-00275283 bringing the alphabet to Greece but it _dz4XX-Y9-E-01121-00275284-00275454 is more plausible that it was brought by _dz4XX-Y9-E-01122-00275455-00275643 Phoenician emigrants to Crete whence it _dz4XX-Y9-E-01123-00275644-00276255 gradually diffused northwards _dz4XX-Y9-E-01124-00276256-00276853 topic connections with Greek mythology _dz4XX-Y9-E-01125-00276854-00277099 in both Phoenician and Greek mythology's _dz4XX-Y9-E-01126-00277100-00277327 Cadmus as a Phoenician prince the son of _dz4XX-Y9-E-01127-00277328-00277599 Agner the king of tyre in south Lebanon _dz4XX-Y9-E-01128-00277600-00277849 Herodotus credits Cadmus for bringing _dz4XX-Y9-E-01129-00277850-00278002 the Phoenician alphabet to Greece _dz4XX-Y9-E-01130-00278003-00278203 approximately sixteen hundred years _dz4XX-Y9-E-01131-00278204-00278494 before Herodotus time or around 2,000 BC _dz4XX-Y9-E-01132-00278495-00278782 as he had tested these Phoenicians who _dz4XX-Y9-E-01133-00278783-00278983 came with Cadmus and of whom the Jeffrey _dz4XX-Y9-E-01134-00278984-00279124 ins were a part brought with them to _dz4XX-Y9-E-01135-00279125-00279307 hell us among many other kinds of _dz4XX-Y9-E-01136-00279308-00279484 learning the alphabet which had been _dz4XX-Y9-E-01137-00279485-00279664 unknown before this I think to the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01138-00279665-00279937 Greeks as time went on the sound in the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01139-00279938-00280225 form of the letters were changed due to _dz4XX-Y9-E-01140-00280226-00280393 the number of deities similar to the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01141-00280394-00280666 Lord of the sea in classical mythology _dz4XX-Y9-E-01142-00280667-00280858 there have been many difficulties _dz4XX-Y9-E-01143-00280859-00281080 attributing one specific name to the C _dz4XX-Y9-E-01144-00281081-00281401 deity or the Poseidon Neptune figure of _dz4XX-Y9-E-01145-00281402-00281593 Phoenician religion this figure of _dz4XX-Y9-E-01146-00281594-00281908 Poseidon Neptune is mentioned by authors _dz4XX-Y9-E-01147-00281909-00282097 and in various inscriptions as being _dz4XX-Y9-E-01148-00282098-00282274 very important to merchants and sailors _dz4XX-Y9-E-01149-00282275-00282514 but a singular name has yet to be found _dz4XX-Y9-E-01150-00282515-00282769 there are however names for Sea gods _dz4XX-Y9-E-01151-00282770-00283078 from individual city-states yam is the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01152-00283079-00283246 god of the sea of uber at an ancient _dz4XX-Y9-E-01153-00283247-00283519 city-state north to Phoenicia yam and _dz4XX-Y9-E-01154-00283520-00283762 ball the storm god of Ugaritic myth and _dz4XX-Y9-E-01155-00283763-00283987 often associated with zeus have an epic _dz4XX-Y9-E-01156-00283988-00284254 battle for power over the universe while _dz4XX-Y9-E-01157-00284255-00284407 yam is the god of the sea _dz4XX-Y9-E-01158-00284408-00284728 he truly represents vast chaos ball on _dz4XX-Y9-E-01159-00284729-00284938 the other hand is a representative for _dz4XX-Y9-E-01160-00284939-00285226 order in Ugaritic myth Baal overcomes _dz4XX-Y9-E-01161-00285227-00285454 yams power in some versions of this myth _dz4XX-Y9-E-01162-00285455-00285691 Baal kills yam with a maze fashioned for _dz4XX-Y9-E-01163-00285692-00285886 him and in others the goddess a start _dz4XX-Y9-E-01164-00285887-00286105 saves yam and says that since defeated _dz4XX-Y9-E-01165-00286106-00286372 he should stay in his own province yam _dz4XX-Y9-E-01166-00286373-00286555 is the brother of the god of death Moe _dz4XX-Y9-E-01167-00286556-00286807 some scholars have identified yam with _dz4XX-Y9-E-01168-00286808-00286981 Poseidon although he has also been _dz4XX-Y9-E-01169-00286982-00287566 identified with pondus _dz4XX-Y9-E-01170-00287567-00288026 topic play-doh _dz4XX-Y9-E-01171-00288027-00288266 in his Republic Greek philosopher Plato _dz4XX-Y9-E-01172-00288267-00288470 contends that the love of money is a _dz4XX-Y9-E-01173-00288471-00288647 tendency of the soul found amongst _dz4XX-Y9-E-01174-00288648-00288806 Phoenicians and Egyptians which _dz4XX-Y9-E-01175-00288807-00288971 distinguishes them from the Greeks who _dz4XX-Y9-E-01176-00288972-00289136 tend towards the love of knowledge in _dz4XX-Y9-E-01177-00289137-00289406 his loss he asserts that this love of _dz4XX-Y9-E-01178-00289407-00289565 money has led the Phoenicians and _dz4XX-Y9-E-01179-00289566-00289781 Egyptians to develop skills in cunning _dz4XX-Y9-E-01180-00289782-00289940 and trickery panner here rather than _dz4XX-Y9-E-01181-00289941-00290204 wisdom Sophia in his histories Herodotus _dz4XX-Y9-E-01182-00290205-00290384 gives the Persian and Greek accounts of _dz4XX-Y9-E-01183-00290385-00290576 a series of kidnappings that led to the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01184-00290577-00290831 Trojan War while docked at a trading _dz4XX-Y9-E-01185-00290832-00291050 port in argos the Phoenicians kidnapped _dz4XX-Y9-E-01186-00291051-00291242 a group of Greek women including King _dz4XX-Y9-E-01187-00291243-00291548 Ida casas daughter IO the Greeks then _dz4XX-Y9-E-01188-00291549-00291761 retaliated by kidnapping Europa a _dz4XX-Y9-E-01189-00291762-00292031 Phoenician and later Medea the Greeks _dz4XX-Y9-E-01190-00292032-00292217 refused to compensate the Phoenicians _dz4XX-Y9-E-01191-00292218-00292400 for the additional abduction a fact _dz4XX-Y9-E-01192-00292401-00292619 which Paris used a generation later to _dz4XX-Y9-E-01193-00292620-00292793 justify the abduction of Helen from _dz4XX-Y9-E-01194-00292794-00293075 Argos the Greeks then retaliated by _dz4XX-Y9-E-01195-00293076-00293333 waging war against Troy after Troy's _dz4XX-Y9-E-01196-00293334-00293525 fall the Persians considered the Greeks _dz4XX-Y9-E-01197-00293526-00294115 to be their enemy _dz4XX-Y9-E-01198-00294116-00294662 topic ancient sources _dz4XX-Y9-E-01199-00294663-00295006 you _dz4XX-Y9-E-01200-00295007-00295506 topic in the Bible _dz4XX-Y9-E-01201-00295507-00295768 hyrum also spelled hirin the king of _dz4XX-Y9-E-01202-00295769-00295987 tyre is associated with the building of _dz4XX-Y9-E-01203-00295988-00296310 solomon's temple first Kings chapter 5 _dz4XX-Y9-E-01204-00296311-00296638 verse 1 says Hiram king of Tyre sent his _dz4XX-Y9-E-01205-00296639-00296835 servants to Solomon for he had heard _dz4XX-Y9-E-01206-00296836-00297006 that they had anointed him King in the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01207-00297007-00297238 place of his father for Hiram was ever a _dz4XX-Y9-E-01208-00297239-00297600 lover of David 2nd chronicles chapter 2 _dz4XX-Y9-E-01209-00297601-00297889 verse 14 says the son of a woman of the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01210-00297890-00298114 daughters of Dan and his father was a _dz4XX-Y9-E-01211-00298115-00298356 man of Tyre skilful to work in gold _dz4XX-Y9-E-01212-00298357-00298734 silver brass iron stone timber royal _dz4XX-Y9-E-01213-00298735-00298974 purple from the murex blue and in _dz4XX-Y9-E-01214-00298975-00299229 crimson and fine linens also de Grave _dz4XX-Y9-E-01215-00299230-00299454 any manner of graving and to find out _dz4XX-Y9-E-01216-00299455-00299845 every device which shall be put to him _dz4XX-Y9-E-01217-00299846-00300092 this is the architect of the temple _dz4XX-Y9-E-01218-00300093-00300398 Hiram ABA's of Masonic lore later _dz4XX-Y9-E-01219-00300399-00300602 reforming prophets railed against the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01220-00300603-00300791 practice of drawing royal wives from _dz4XX-Y9-E-01221-00300792-00300998 among foreigners Elijah execrated _dz4XX-Y9-E-01222-00300999-00301232 Jezebel the princess from tyre in south _dz4XX-Y9-E-01223-00301233-00301418 Lebanon who became a consort of King _dz4XX-Y9-E-01224-00301419-00301628 Ahab and introduced the worship of her _dz4XX-Y9-E-01225-00301629-00301943 God Baal long after Phoenician culture _dz4XX-Y9-E-01226-00301944-00302141 flourished or Phoenicia existed as a _dz4XX-Y9-E-01227-00302142-00302360 political entity Hellenized natives of _dz4XX-Y9-E-01228-00302361-00302543 the region where Canaanites still lived _dz4XX-Y9-E-01229-00302544-00302810 were referred to as syrophoenician x' as _dz4XX-Y9-E-01230-00302811-00303152 in the Gospel of Mark chapter 7 verse 26 _dz4XX-Y9-E-01231-00303153-00303386 the woman was a Greek a syrophoenician _dz4XX-Y9-E-01232-00303387-00303639 by birth _dz4XX-Y9-E-01233-00303640-00303860 the word Bible itself derives from Greek _dz4XX-Y9-E-01234-00303861-00304164 biblia n-- which means book and either _dz4XX-Y9-E-01235-00304165-00304325 derives from or as the perhaps _dz4XX-Y9-E-01236-00304326-00304587 ultimately Egyptian origin of byblos the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01237-00304588-00304757 Greek name of the Phoenician city give _dz4XX-Y9-E-01238-00304758-00305294 all _dz4XX-Y9-E-01239-00305295-00305806 topic legacy _dz4XX-Y9-E-01240-00305807-00306048 the legacies of the Phoenicians include _dz4XX-Y9-E-01241-00306049-00306280 the spread of the alphabet throughout _dz4XX-Y9-E-01242-00306281-00306475 the Mediterranean extended literacy _dz4XX-Y9-E-01243-00306476-00306658 beyond a narrow caste of hierarchical _dz4XX-Y9-E-01244-00306659-00306967 priests they reopened the trade routes _dz4XX-Y9-E-01245-00306968-00307138 in the eastern Mediterranean that _dz4XX-Y9-E-01246-00307139-00307344 connected the Egyptian and Mesopotamian _dz4XX-Y9-E-01247-00307345-00307582 civilizations after the long hiatus of _dz4XX-Y9-E-01248-00307583-00307750 the Bronze Age collapse recovered _dz4XX-Y9-E-01249-00307751-00308068 beginning the orient Allison trend later _dz4XX-Y9-E-01250-00308069-00308371 seen in Greek art they invented a more _dz4XX-Y9-E-01251-00308372-00308617 democratic and flatter oligarchic social _dz4XX-Y9-E-01252-00308618-00308797 structure than any people prior to the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01253-00308798-00308989 Athenian Revolution and in this were an _dz4XX-Y9-E-01254-00308990-00309190 inspiration to Greek constitutional _dz4XX-Y9-E-01255-00309191-00309418 government they pioneered the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01256-00309419-00309643 development of multi-tiered org shipping _dz4XX-Y9-E-01257-00309644-00309772 throughout the Mediterranean region _dz4XX-Y9-E-01258-00309773-00309997 being the first people exploring beyond _dz4XX-Y9-E-01259-00309998-00310264 the Straits of Gibraltar they were the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01260-00310265-00310465 first eastern Mediterranean people to _dz4XX-Y9-E-01261-00310466-00310663 colonize the western Mediterranean in _dz4XX-Y9-E-01262-00310664-00310861 any significant way the shardana may _dz4XX-Y9-E-01263-00310862-00311062 have preceded them in Sardinia opening _dz4XX-Y9-E-01264-00311063-00311248 up Urban Development and trade in this _dz4XX-Y9-E-01265-00311249-00311581 region Greeks Etruscans and Romans _dz4XX-Y9-E-01266-00311582-00311737 freely admitted what they owed to the _dz4XX-Y9-E-01267-00311738-00311923 Phoenicians and Phoenician influence can _dz4XX-Y9-E-01268-00311924-00312103 be traced in the Iberian and Celtic _dz4XX-Y9-E-01269-00312104-00312283 worlds from the eighth century BC _dz4XX-Y9-E-01270-00312284-00312583 onwards it is possible that Zeno _dz4XX-Y9-E-01271-00312584-00312808 obsidium the founder of stoicism was a _dz4XX-Y9-E-01272-00312809-00313063 Phoenician heritage diogenes laërtius _dz4XX-Y9-E-01273-00313064-00313333 writes that crates once chastised Zeno _dz4XX-Y9-E-01274-00313334-00313564 crying out why run away my little _dz4XX-Y9-E-01275-00313565-00313723 Phoenician 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_hhv2Clg-fy-00002-00010426-00011069 [Music] _hhv2Clg-fy-00003-00011070-00014011 foreign _hhv2Clg-fy-00004-00014012-00014818 a lot of times _hhv2Clg-fy-00006-00018140-00018383 with a guy _hhv2Clg-fy-00008-00023078-00023401 the spring _jTyoT03i-u-00000-00000063-00000229 [Music] _jTyoT03i-u-00001-00000229-00000833 it's just a science project doctor _jTyoT03i-u-00002-00000834-00001012 friend once said the same thing to me _jTyoT03i-u-00003-00001013-00001616 Frankenstein was that sounds like _jTyoT03i-u-00004-00001617-00001784 something out of science fiction please _jTyoT03i-u-00005-00001785-00001937 explain to me the scientific nature of _jTyoT03i-u-00006-00001938-00001988 the whammy _jTyoT03i-u-00007-00001989-00002260 you live in a spaceship dear so yes _jTyoT03i-u-00008-00002261-00002560 science program complete Enter when _jTyoT03i-u-00009-00002561-00002999 ready hello and welcome to episode 343 _jTyoT03i-u-00010-00003000-00003263 of science on top today's Monday the 7th _jTyoT03i-u-00011-00003264-00003586 of September 2019 I'm ed Brown and I'm _jTyoT03i-u-00012-00003588-00003908 joined by a penny James Dean and Lucas _jTyoT03i-u-00013-00003909-00004220 Randall hello and this show is only _jTyoT03i-u-00014-00004221-00004427 possible thanks to the generous support _jTyoT03i-u-00015-00004428-00004681 from our patreon subscribers people like _jTyoT03i-u-00016-00004682-00004927 Kirsty Saxton and elizabeth gordon who _jTyoT03i-u-00017-00004928-00005095 have been chipping in each episode to _jTyoT03i-u-00018-00005096-00005252 help us pay the bills and keep the _jTyoT03i-u-00019-00005253-00005527 lights on so why not join them and maybe _jTyoT03i-u-00020-00005528-00005774 get your name read out on a podcast at _jTyoT03i-u-00021-00005775-00006070 science on top calm slash donate and _jTyoT03i-u-00022-00006071-00006370 penny let's begin by looking at how the _jTyoT03i-u-00023-00006371-00006721 French love of eating snails has led to _jTyoT03i-u-00024-00006722-00007012 the near extinction and then revival of _jTyoT03i-u-00025-00007013-00007364 tiny but culturally and scientifically _jTyoT03i-u-00026-00007365-00007698 important snails in French Polynesia _jTyoT03i-u-00027-00007700-00007909 yeah we were actually just having a chat _jTyoT03i-u-00028-00007911-00008159 before the show about who's eaten snails _jTyoT03i-u-00029-00008159-00008417 and it seems like I'm the only one of _jTyoT03i-u-00030-00008418-00008810 the three of us who are brave dangerous _jTyoT03i-u-00031-00008811-00009095 as I said like there was so much garlic _jTyoT03i-u-00032-00009096-00009338 and butter involved I think I could have _jTyoT03i-u-00033-00009339-00009496 eaten anything and it would have taste _jTyoT03i-u-00034-00009497-00009869 tasted delicious but um this is a sort _jTyoT03i-u-00035-00009870-00010171 of a good news story which I like to do _jTyoT03i-u-00036-00010172-00010505 from time to time too you know spikey _jTyoT03i-u-00037-00010506-00010963 good for the planet about snail ecology _jTyoT03i-u-00038-00010964-00011291 in French Polynesia so the history of _jTyoT03i-u-00039-00011292-00011570 French Polynesia in terms of snails with _jTyoT03i-u-00040-00011571-00011819 it it has these little snails called _jTyoT03i-u-00041-00011820-00012131 paella snails so they're indigenous to _jTyoT03i-u-00042-00012132-00012494 the islands they are really small _jTyoT03i-u-00043-00012495-00012659 between one and two centimetres in _jTyoT03i-u-00044-00012660-00012949 length they have beautiful little spiral _jTyoT03i-u-00045-00012950-00013304 shells they're ecologically important to _jTyoT03i-u-00046-00013305-00013335 do _jTyoT03i-u-00047-00013336-00013479 you know breakdown of leaf litter they _jTyoT03i-u-00048-00013480-00013704 eat algae and so on but they're also _jTyoT03i-u-00049-00013705-00013959 culturally significant their shells are _jTyoT03i-u-00050-00013960-00014265 used to make necklaces and crowns and _jTyoT03i-u-00051-00014266-00014594 these snails being kind of like Darwin's _jTyoT03i-u-00052-00014596-00014778 finches of the snails of French _jTyoT03i-u-00053-00014779-00015051 Polynesia were different on each Island _jTyoT03i-u-00054-00015052-00015387 so each Island has its own sort of kind _jTyoT03i-u-00055-00015388-00015597 of snail shell and could make its own _jTyoT03i-u-00056-00015597-00015861 particularly special gifts to hand to _jTyoT03i-u-00057-00015862-00016094 others in ceremonies so they're really _jTyoT03i-u-00058-00016095-00016431 important you know not just ecologically _jTyoT03i-u-00059-00016432-00016698 but culturally as well however the _jTyoT03i-u-00060-00016699-00017205 French came last century and thought do _jTyoT03i-u-00061-00017206-00018149 you know what we like snails _jTyoT03i-u-00062-00018150-00018381 apparently Pepe LePew is on the podcast _jTyoT03i-u-00063-00018382-00019050 this week the poor fritz they don't _jTyoT03i-u-00064-00019051-00019176 deserve this _jTyoT03i-u-00065-00019177-00019410 anyway as so often happens when European _jTyoT03i-u-00066-00019411-00019778 colonial powers come to somewhere else _jTyoT03i-u-00067-00019779-00020109 and go oh I really like my rabbits or my _jTyoT03i-u-00068-00020110-00020375 whatever's or my snails from home and _jTyoT03i-u-00069-00020376-00020688 introduce them it doesn't go as well as _jTyoT03i-u-00070-00020689-00020964 you might hope so they introduced giant _jTyoT03i-u-00071-00020965-00021344 African snails which escaped and began _jTyoT03i-u-00072-00021345-00021747 destroying the local crops so in order _jTyoT03i-u-00073-00021748-00021897 to deal with this the idea of a _jTyoT03i-u-00074-00021898-00022107 biological control was used it was a _jTyoT03i-u-00075-00022108-00022428 second snail the Rosie wolf snail which _jTyoT03i-u-00076-00022429-00022697 would kill off the introduced African _jTyoT03i-u-00077-00022698-00022911 giant African snails what could possibly _jTyoT03i-u-00078-00022912-00023133 go wrong what could possibly go wrong _jTyoT03i-u-00079-00023134-00023382 it's a genius area not every biological _jTyoT03i-u-00080-00023383-00023735 control but so many biological controls _jTyoT03i-u-00081-00023736-00024128 yes so instead of eating the African _jTyoT03i-u-00082-00024129-00024660 snails the roof roof snails chose to eat _jTyoT03i-u-00083-00024661-00024897 these little part Shila snails the ones _jTyoT03i-u-00084-00024898-00025038 that are already trying to protect the _jTyoT03i-u-00085-00025039-00025296 ones we're trying to protect now right _jTyoT03i-u-00086-00025297-00025631 yes so the African snails were just _jTyoT03i-u-00087-00025632-00025842 drawing crops in probably out competing _jTyoT03i-u-00088-00025843-00026130 but the other snails and these woof _jTyoT03i-u-00089-00026131-00026321 snails are actually really predatory _jTyoT03i-u-00090-00026322-00026495 snails like I have never thought of a _jTyoT03i-u-00091-00026497-00026754 predator east now so they're fast movers _jTyoT03i-u-00092-00026755-00027027 they follow slime trails to track and _jTyoT03i-u-00093-00027027-00027380 kill and eat other snails yeah so _jTyoT03i-u-00094-00027381-00027474 they're real hunters _jTyoT03i-u-00095-00027475-00027810 so these Rosie wolf snails actually _jTyoT03i-u-00096-00027811-00028127 wiped out more than half of the species _jTyoT03i-u-00097-00028128-00028265 so they're originally a hundred and _jTyoT03i-u-00098-00028266-00028482 twenty different species in Polynesia of _jTyoT03i-u-00099-00028483-00028683 particular snails and half of them are _jTyoT03i-u-00100-00028683-00029099 actually extinct now so some individuals _jTyoT03i-u-00101-00029100-00029477 have been collected on purpose sort of _jTyoT03i-u-00102-00029478-00029664 in the 90s to try and preserve them _jTyoT03i-u-00103-00029664-00029864 others were already being studied at _jTyoT03i-u-00104-00029865-00030105 different universities and so what has _jTyoT03i-u-00105-00030106-00030498 been done is that breeding populations _jTyoT03i-u-00106-00030499-00030735 have been established and at the same _jTyoT03i-u-00107-00030736-00031011 time the wolf snail populations have _jTyoT03i-u-00108-00031012-00031167 been dropping it's not that there's none _jTyoT03i-u-00109-00031168-00031560 left but there's not as many left _jTyoT03i-u-00110-00031561-00031632 anymore _jTyoT03i-u-00111-00031633-00031943 so do we know they're popular I don't _jTyoT03i-u-00112-00031944-00032333 know why I'm guessing perhaps you know _jTyoT03i-u-00113-00032334-00032514 they were introduced to this new habitat _jTyoT03i-u-00114-00032514-00032705 they did that population boom thing and _jTyoT03i-u-00115-00032706-00032933 it may be now down to a more sustainable _jTyoT03i-u-00116-00032934-00033267 level okay fingers crossed so there's _jTyoT03i-u-00117-00033268-00033423 very not many left so hopefully not _jTyoT03i-u-00118-00033424-00033798 enough to really truly kind of broom _jTyoT03i-u-00119-00033799-00034182 again but um more than 15,000 different _jTyoT03i-u-00120-00034183-00034601 snails have been released total of _jTyoT03i-u-00121-00034602-00034749 different 14 species and different _jTyoT03i-u-00122-00034750-00035108 subspecies back on to the islands it's _jTyoT03i-u-00123-00035109-00035276 been a whole lot of zoos and _jTyoT03i-u-00124-00035277-00035610 universities breeding them and it takes _jTyoT03i-u-00125-00035611-00035799 a long time like years and years to _jTyoT03i-u-00126-00035800-00036132 breed up you know 2,000 snails or so so _jTyoT03i-u-00127-00036133-00036336 it's a lot of work and effort that has _jTyoT03i-u-00128-00036337-00036677 gone into this so these animals have _jTyoT03i-u-00129-00036678-00036945 been released back into their their _jTyoT03i-u-00130-00036946-00037208 homeland where hopefully they'll start _jTyoT03i-u-00131-00037209-00037533 to breed and grow and establish _jTyoT03i-u-00132-00037534-00037782 themselves and you know take their place _jTyoT03i-u-00133-00037783-00037998 back in those island ecosystems once _jTyoT03i-u-00134-00037999-00038339 again as you say that's quite a lot of _jTyoT03i-u-00135-00038340-00038624 effort to go to yeah little one and two _jTyoT03i-u-00136-00038625-00038895 centimeter snails little sound sorry _jTyoT03i-u-00137-00038896-00039129 insignificant but when you take into _jTyoT03i-u-00138-00039130-00039308 fact that a there's a cultural _jTyoT03i-u-00139-00039309-00039563 significance to it anyway so we need to _jTyoT03i-u-00140-00039564-00039711 respect that and try and help that _jTyoT03i-u-00141-00039712-00039885 ecosystem here _jTyoT03i-u-00142-00039886-00040217 but I think that Darwin's finches that _jTyoT03i-u-00143-00040218-00040352 you mentioned it's really fascinating _jTyoT03i-u-00144-00040353-00040617 that there on each Island has just had _jTyoT03i-u-00145-00040618-00040674 its own _jTyoT03i-u-00146-00040675-00040989 the population has its own little yeah _jTyoT03i-u-00147-00040990-00041280 traits to deal with the unique _jTyoT03i-u-00148-00041281-00041505 environment that they're in that's it's _jTyoT03i-u-00149-00041506-00041735 extraordinary and good item for _jTyoT03i-u-00150-00041736-00042105 reintroducing 15 was it hasn't _jTyoT03i-u-00151-00042106-00042267 individuals yeah so that's a lot of _jTyoT03i-u-00152-00042268-00042512 snails it is I mean they're very small _jTyoT03i-u-00153-00042513-00042842 like you could fit that in the future _jTyoT03i-u-00154-00042843-00043404 yeah it is very cool Lucas speaking of _jTyoT03i-u-00155-00043405-00043637 very cool there was a really big _jTyoT03i-u-00156-00043638-00043964 explosion in our galaxy and in _jTyoT03i-u-00157-00043965-00044243 astronomically recent times too what do _jTyoT03i-u-00158-00044244-00044442 we know about the big boom three and a _jTyoT03i-u-00159-00044443-00044818 half million years ago yes so this this _jTyoT03i-u-00160-00044819-00045224 was a discovery back in 2013 actually it _jTyoT03i-u-00161-00045225-00045564 was a while ago that we found these _jTyoT03i-u-00162-00045565-00045815 things that are known as the Fermi _jTyoT03i-u-00163-00045816-00046158 bubbles so-called because they were they _jTyoT03i-u-00164-00046159-00046617 were discovered by the Fermi and rotate _jTyoT03i-u-00165-00046618-00047021 satellites so the so Fermi one of the _jTyoT03i-u-00166-00047022-00047223 basically the first observation of these _jTyoT03i-u-00167-00047224-00047418 things indicated that there were these _jTyoT03i-u-00168-00047419-00047820 gamma and x-ray lobes that were above _jTyoT03i-u-00169-00047821-00047996 and below the Galactic plane of the _jTyoT03i-u-00170-00047997-00048243 Milky Way and it was thought that these _jTyoT03i-u-00171-00048244-00048557 could only have been created by our _jTyoT03i-u-00172-00048558-00048789 black hole the black on the center of _jTyoT03i-u-00173-00048790-00049051 the Milky Way Sagittarius a star _jTyoT03i-u-00174-00049052-00049299 basically having a little hissy fit and _jTyoT03i-u-00175-00049300-00049551 becoming a quasar for a short period of _jTyoT03i-u-00176-00049552-00049839 time or more specifically emitting _jTyoT03i-u-00177-00049840-00050070 what's known as the Seifert flare now _jTyoT03i-u-00178-00050071-00050370 since then in fact later that same year _jTyoT03i-u-00179-00050371-00050724 there was another observation which _jTyoT03i-u-00180-00050725-00050964 found that there was a hydrogen-alpha _jTyoT03i-u-00181-00050965-00051296 omission that was also along a section _jTyoT03i-u-00182-00051297-00051629 of the Magellanic stream which is think _jTyoT03i-u-00183-00051630-00052070 of it like a tail of particles left by _jTyoT03i-u-00184-00052071-00052350 the the large and small Magellanic _jTyoT03i-u-00185-00052351-00052625 Clouds as they as they orbit our galaxy _jTyoT03i-u-00186-00052626-00052860 so there was basically something had _jTyoT03i-u-00187-00052861-00053154 lanced through that tail and and left _jTyoT03i-u-00188-00053154-00053286 these telltale _jTyoT03i-u-00189-00053287-00053837 tell-tale signs so since then not a huge _jTyoT03i-u-00190-00053838-00054068 amounts happen about this but there have _jTyoT03i-u-00191-00054069-00054419 been new observations by the hubble _jTyoT03i-u-00192-00054420-00054707 space telescope evidence of two enormous _jTyoT03i-u-00193-00054708-00055086 bursts of ionizing radiation that's _jTyoT03i-u-00194-00055087-00055343 that's again has sort of gone through _jTyoT03i-u-00195-00055344-00055653 there's above and below the plane of our _jTyoT03i-u-00196-00055654-00056006 galaxy shooting out like cones as it as _jTyoT03i-u-00197-00056007-00056235 it spread from the Sagittarius a star _jTyoT03i-u-00198-00056236-00056559 our supermassive black hole and and _jTyoT03i-u-00199-00056560-00056847 basically lanced out to about 200 _jTyoT03i-u-00200-00056848-00057101 thousand light years into space above _jTyoT03i-u-00201-00057102-00057410 and below that the plan of the galaxy _jTyoT03i-u-00202-00057411-00057698 that's you know we've seen this with _jTyoT03i-u-00203-00057699-00057887 other galaxies before we've seen these _jTyoT03i-u-00204-00057888-00058199 these streaming Jets of ionized _jTyoT03i-u-00205-00058200-00058517 radiation coming off the you know the _jTyoT03i-u-00206-00058518-00058916 the core of galaxies and when that _jTyoT03i-u-00207-00058917-00059201 happens it's indication that the black _jTyoT03i-u-00208-00059202-00059387 hole at the center of those galaxies is _jTyoT03i-u-00209-00059388-00059699 feeding so a feeding black hole or a _jTyoT03i-u-00210-00059700-00059991 quasar basically it not everything goes _jTyoT03i-u-00211-00059991-00060251 in it ends up the expelling these these _jTyoT03i-u-00212-00060252-00060621 cores of radiation these along it's spin _jTyoT03i-u-00213-00060622-00060899 axis so that's you know we've seen these _jTyoT03i-u-00214-00060900-00061071 things crossing enormous distances and _jTyoT03i-u-00215-00061072-00061290 that appears to be what has happened now _jTyoT03i-u-00216-00061291-00061509 what's interesting about this latest _jTyoT03i-u-00217-00061510-00061961 finding is that up until recently we _jTyoT03i-u-00218-00061962-00062282 didn't we had an idea of how long ago it _jTyoT03i-u-00219-00062283-00062628 was based on the some factors such as _jTyoT03i-u-00220-00062629-00062879 the movement of the Magellanic Clouds _jTyoT03i-u-00221-00062879-00063218 and and how much drift there was of _jTyoT03i-u-00222-00063219-00063447 those what have been detected before _jTyoT03i-u-00223-00063448-00063674 those different types of radiation but _jTyoT03i-u-00224-00063675-00063986 the new observation has allowed us to to _jTyoT03i-u-00225-00063987-00064353 narrow down how long how much help that _jTyoT03i-u-00226-00064354-00064599 the period of time that it was shooting _jTyoT03i-u-00227-00064600-00064973 these Jets out from the core and it _jTyoT03i-u-00228-00064974-00065249 appears yeah so you already mentioned in _jTyoT03i-u-00229-00065250-00065565 the in the intro that it was a it's _jTyoT03i-u-00230-00065566-00065669 already been narrowed down to around _jTyoT03i-u-00231-00065670-00065879 somewhere between three and five million _jTyoT03i-u-00232-00065880-00066123 years ago it appears to be around 3.5 _jTyoT03i-u-00233-00066124-00066303 million years ago that this took place _jTyoT03i-u-00234-00066304-00066615 and these Jets that were shooting out _jTyoT03i-u-00235-00066616-00067041 about 300,000 years oh whoa which oh _jTyoT03i-u-00236-00067042-00067349 yeah I mean just a you know short burst _jTyoT03i-u-00237-00067350-00067524 every now and then sort of thing like _jTyoT03i-u-00238-00067525-00067715 sort of like a lighthouse riding but _jTyoT03i-u-00239-00067716-00068063 300,000 years that's a long time it's _jTyoT03i-u-00240-00068064-00068286 it's yeah I mean to us it's a really _jTyoT03i-u-00241-00068287-00068571 long time galactic terms it's a blink _jTyoT03i-u-00242-00068572-00068975 and we've long believed really fit well _jTyoT03i-u-00243-00068976-00069161 when I say Long's as long as we've been _jTyoT03i-u-00244-00069162-00069384 studying such a serious eye and a star _jTyoT03i-u-00245-00069385-00069648 in any case we've been of the assumption _jTyoT03i-u-00246-00069649-00069905 of the opinion that our galactic core _jTyoT03i-u-00247-00069906-00070136 the Milky the supermassive black hole at _jTyoT03i-u-00248-00070137-00070424 the center of our galaxy is not doing _jTyoT03i-u-00249-00070425-00070605 much it's just hanging around as being _jTyoT03i-u-00250-00070606-00070955 boring it's not really feeding not much _jTyoT03i-u-00251-00070956-00071142 activity they're kind of boring and _jTyoT03i-u-00252-00071143-00071324 they're in the scheme of things you know _jTyoT03i-u-00253-00071325-00071654 if you can 5 million solar masses boring _jTyoT03i-u-00254-00071655-00071967 but you know not not all that exciting _jTyoT03i-u-00255-00071968-00072263 but you know it's only 3.5 million years _jTyoT03i-u-00256-00072264-00072609 ago that it shot these massive cones of _jTyoT03i-u-00257-00072610-00072885 radiation out over 300 thousand light _jTyoT03i-u-00258-00072886-00073110 years in both directions that must have _jTyoT03i-u-00259-00073111-00073313 been some serious matter that was that _jTyoT03i-u-00260-00073314-00073625 it was chowing down on yeah so there _jTyoT03i-u-00261-00073626-00073982 there have been some various suggestions _jTyoT03i-u-00262-00073983-00074235 of what it could have been that it was _jTyoT03i-u-00263-00074236-00074673 chowing down on it seems likely although _jTyoT03i-u-00264-00074674-00074894 we we may never know for sure but it _jTyoT03i-u-00265-00074895-00075117 seems likely based on what we what we _jTyoT03i-u-00266-00075118-00075390 can see orbiting Sagittarius a star and _jTyoT03i-u-00267-00075391-00075692 by the way that is freaking cool if you _jTyoT03i-u-00268-00075693-00075867 ever get a chance to look up some of the _jTyoT03i-u-00269-00075868-00076187 animations of a star with that show _jTyoT03i-u-00270-00076188-00076524 their various other stars that are that _jTyoT03i-u-00271-00076525-00076790 are that are orbiting there's this _jTyoT03i-u-00272-00076791-00077054 supermassive black hole we can detect _jTyoT03i-u-00273-00077055-00077357 them through the gas and the dust that's _jTyoT03i-u-00274-00077358-00077609 in the way using different you know _jTyoT03i-u-00275-00077610-00077949 frequencies of light and this is _jTyoT03i-u-00276-00077950-00078186 actually one of the ways that we know we _jTyoT03i-u-00277-00078187-00078378 discovered this supermassive black hole _jTyoT03i-u-00278-00078379-00078731 was to was was watching all of these _jTyoT03i-u-00279-00078732-00079013 things these these otherwise massive _jTyoT03i-u-00280-00079014-00079365 massive stars zipping around what _jTyoT03i-u-00281-00079366-00079637 appears to be nothing yeah just yeah I _jTyoT03i-u-00282-00079638-00079763 mean they were just they were just _jTyoT03i-u-00283-00079764-00080028 flying around at extraordin _jTyoT03i-u-00284-00080029-00080301 velocities and all orbiting this this _jTyoT03i-u-00285-00080302-00080610 common center of mass and well you know _jTyoT03i-u-00286-00080611-00080898 two and two together equals one point _jTyoT03i-u-00287-00080899-00081471 four million solar masses so so if you _jTyoT03i-u-00288-00081472-00081624 do get a chance to have a look at some _jTyoT03i-u-00289-00081625-00081921 of these animations do do look them up _jTyoT03i-u-00290-00081922-00082134 because they're very cool but it's it's _jTyoT03i-u-00291-00082135-00082518 thought that there's a particular star _jTyoT03i-u-00292-00082519-00082959 that has been sort of having grazing you _jTyoT03i-u-00293-00082960-00083207 know blows or grazing blood glances at _jTyoT03i-u-00294-00083208-00083547 as it goes around the supermassive black _jTyoT03i-u-00295-00083548-00083841 hole and it's thought that this star may _jTyoT03i-u-00296-00083842-00084129 well have given up some of its mass on _jTyoT03i-u-00297-00084130-00084449 one of those those close approaches and _jTyoT03i-u-00298-00084450-00084698 that mass of course would have been _jTyoT03i-u-00299-00084699-00084900 ripped from the star would have _jTyoT03i-u-00300-00084901-00085071 originally formed as an accretion disk _jTyoT03i-u-00301-00085072-00085283 around the black hole would have _jTyoT03i-u-00302-00085284-00085689 superheated would have given off a whole _jTyoT03i-u-00303-00085690-00085872 ton of x-ray and all that sort of thing _jTyoT03i-u-00304-00085873-00086118 is due to the the heat and then the _jTyoT03i-u-00305-00086119-00086337 black hole has slowly consumed it over _jTyoT03i-u-00306-00086338-00086520 apparently roughly three hundred _jTyoT03i-u-00307-00086521-00086778 thousand years as its chair down on that _jTyoT03i-u-00308-00086779-00086976 mass from that particular start so _jTyoT03i-u-00309-00086977-00087144 there's some other theories you know _jTyoT03i-u-00310-00087145-00087399 that could have been could have even _jTyoT03i-u-00311-00087400-00087825 been actual you know mass could have _jTyoT03i-u-00312-00087826-00087966 been things like planets that are _jTyoT03i-u-00313-00087967-00088191 stripped away from stars as they as they _jTyoT03i-u-00314-00088192-00088422 whip around the black hole could have _jTyoT03i-u-00315-00088423-00088644 been all sorts of things but yeah really _jTyoT03i-u-00316-00088645-00088902 really cool to think that you know it's _jTyoT03i-u-00317-00088903-00089166 realistically our black hole is a _jTyoT03i-u-00318-00089167-00089403 sleeping giant but it might just be _jTyoT03i-u-00319-00089404-00089847 dozing and also I mean as you say these _jTyoT03i-u-00320-00089848-00090152 are these flares are pointing _jTyoT03i-u-00321-00090153-00090555 perpendicular to the angle that most of _jTyoT03i-u-00322-00090556-00090705 the other stars and everything are _jTyoT03i-u-00323-00090706-00091110 orbiting the centers are not on the _jTyoT03i-u-00324-00091111-00091491 plane of elliptic but if we had been in _jTyoT03i-u-00325-00091492-00091683 the path these this is ionizing _jTyoT03i-u-00326-00091684-00091890 radiation so we're talking cancers and _jTyoT03i-u-00327-00091891-00092241 all sorts of terrible things oh yeah it _jTyoT03i-u-00328-00092242-00092433 would be yeah yeah absolutely yeah this _jTyoT03i-u-00329-00092434-00092715 wouldn't have been a pleasant cone to _jTyoT03i-u-00330-00092716-00093123 exist in for sure yeah and not just that _jTyoT03i-u-00331-00093124-00093342 it's the origin radiation that's x-ray _jTyoT03i-u-00332-00093343-00093528 it's gamma-rays it's all of the raise _jTyoT03i-u-00333-00093529-00093951 that we don't like later favor raise at _jTyoT03i-u-00334-00093952-00094319 least for our you know our our tissue _jTyoT03i-u-00335-00094320-00094443 yeah _jTyoT03i-u-00336-00094444-00094635 aliens mighty we like the rate is _jTyoT03i-u-00337-00094636-00094947 resistant to maybe but we you know we _jTyoT03i-u-00338-00094948-00095196 like these raised for helping us to tech _jTyoT03i-u-00339-00095197-00095511 things and see things but not not not _jTyoT03i-u-00340-00095512-00095661 standing in the race we don't do that _jTyoT03i-u-00341-00095662-00096105 notice I'm working no not unless you _jTyoT03i-u-00342-00096106-00096297 know we might all be well then again we _jTyoT03i-u-00343-00096298-00096393 might all be the Hulk _jTyoT03i-u-00344-00096394-00096603 if you know the gamma-ray so you never _jTyoT03i-u-00345-00096604-00096969 know said I don't picture it's possibly _jTyoT03i-u-00346-00096970-00097655 not how physiology works you see maybe _jTyoT03i-u-00347-00097656-00097959 maybe maybe my elbows not the best place _jTyoT03i-u-00348-00097960-00098172 you don't want to get ruined comic books _jTyoT03i-u-00349-00098173-00098535 for people but yeah sometimes fiction is _jTyoT03i-u-00350-00098536-00099273 just fiction well let's bring it back _jTyoT03i-u-00351-00099274-00099531 down to earth penny and talk about water _jTyoT03i-u-00352-00099532-00099780 rats and I don't mean the late nineties _jTyoT03i-u-00353-00099781-00100319 TV show starring Colin frills oh my god _jTyoT03i-u-00354-00100320-00100676 I can barely remember it but yeah okay _jTyoT03i-u-00355-00100677-00100881 but this is actually a lot more _jTyoT03i-u-00356-00100882-00101199 interesting because it's about well it's _jTyoT03i-u-00357-00101200-00101298 actually about what we were talking _jTyoT03i-u-00358-00101299-00101496 about earlier we've introduced species _jTyoT03i-u-00359-00101497-00101769 which don't turn out to be such a good _jTyoT03i-u-00360-00101770-00102063 idea and the most notable example here _jTyoT03i-u-00361-00102064-00102251 in Australia of course is the cane toad _jTyoT03i-u-00362-00102252-00102621 but it seems water rats are learning to _jTyoT03i-u-00363-00102622-00102840 be expert assassins here and they're _jTyoT03i-u-00364-00102841-00103041 actually hunting them down which is _jTyoT03i-u-00365-00103042-00103319 encouraging yeah it is encouraging it's _jTyoT03i-u-00366-00103320-00103790 not gonna end Australia's cane toad _jTyoT03i-u-00367-00103791-00104135 problem unless we introduce more water _jTyoT03i-u-00368-00104136-00104691 routes so cane toes it you know _jTyoT03i-u-00369-00104692-00104916 gradually spreading across Australia _jTyoT03i-u-00370-00104917-00105120 there take more and more and it's sort _jTyoT03i-u-00371-00105121-00105447 of out competing and killing native _jTyoT03i-u-00372-00105448-00105702 creatures where they go and they're also _jTyoT03i-u-00373-00105703-00105948 not very easy to eat because they're so _jTyoT03i-u-00374-00105949-00106290 poisonous so nothing well not nothing _jTyoT03i-u-00375-00106291-00106581 but very few animals can eat them even _jTyoT03i-u-00376-00106582-00106698 the ones that usually would _jTyoT03i-u-00377-00106699-00106958 frogs and toads as a source of food so _jTyoT03i-u-00378-00106959-00107214 they're a big massive problem and but _jTyoT03i-u-00379-00107215-00107550 what's been found is that water rats can _jTyoT03i-u-00380-00107551-00107739 actually or some groups of water rats _jTyoT03i-u-00381-00107740-00107988 can actually eat cane toads and it's _jTyoT03i-u-00382-00107989-00108243 quite interesting so I mean the way that _jTyoT03i-u-00383-00108244-00108525 this was sort of flight is that there _jTyoT03i-u-00384-00108526-00108966 was a in 2014 researchers found a creek _jTyoT03i-u-00385-00108967-00109194 that was dotted with the bodies of cane _jTyoT03i-u-00386-00109195-00109428 toads that had been attacked and they _jTyoT03i-u-00387-00109429-00109638 all had the same kinds of injuries so _jTyoT03i-u-00388-00109639-00109916 with almost surgical precision it's been _jTyoT03i-u-00389-00109917-00110265 described they removed the heart and _jTyoT03i-u-00390-00110266-00110526 liver and the gallbladder which has _jTyoT03i-u-00391-00110527-00110727 toxic bile salts we're sort of moved _jTyoT03i-u-00392-00110728-00111029 outside the chest cavity so these toads _jTyoT03i-u-00393-00111030-00111426 are being eaten safely like by avoiding _jTyoT03i-u-00394-00111427-00112008 all the toxins and what's interesting is _jTyoT03i-u-00395-00112008-00112251 the bit of infrared camera discovery _jTyoT03i-u-00396-00112252-00112511 found out that they were done it'd be _jTyoT03i-u-00397-00112513-00113054 killed by water rats so the water rats _jTyoT03i-u-00398-00113055-00113493 are sort of dissecting the toads they _jTyoT03i-u-00399-00113494-00113907 have a preference to go after large so _jTyoT03i-u-00400-00113908-00114254 toads so they look for big ones which _jTyoT03i-u-00401-00114255-00114458 are a better sort of source of food for _jTyoT03i-u-00402-00114459-00114996 them and they're one of the few mammals _jTyoT03i-u-00403-00114997-00115470 that actually will hunt and eat cane _jTyoT03i-u-00404-00115471-00115803 toads there's a few birds that will but _jTyoT03i-u-00405-00115804-00116031 not very many mammals and Australia _jTyoT03i-u-00406-00116032-00116268 hasn't got very many sort of big mammal _jTyoT03i-u-00407-00116269-00116781 predators anyway so what's really _jTyoT03i-u-00408-00116782-00116970 interesting is this seems to be a _jTyoT03i-u-00409-00116971-00117225 behavior of a couple of groups of water _jTyoT03i-u-00410-00117226-00117497 rats it's not every water rat will eat _jTyoT03i-u-00411-00117498-00117747 sort of isolated to a little area yeah _jTyoT03i-u-00412-00117748-00118068 but what and it also it's interesting to _jTyoT03i-u-00413-00118069-00118215 think about the origin of behaviour _jTyoT03i-u-00414-00118216-00118379 whether or not they've somehow really _jTyoT03i-u-00415-00118380-00118626 rapidly learned how to eat toads or very _jTyoT03i-u-00416-00118627-00118890 adapted a strategy that there may be _jTyoT03i-u-00417-00118891-00119058 they used for native frogs that _jTyoT03i-u-00418-00119058-00119346 sensitive worked so it seems you know _jTyoT03i-u-00419-00119347-00119561 it's probably possible for other groups _jTyoT03i-u-00420-00119563-00119981 of rats to learn it and it might help _jTyoT03i-u-00421-00119982-00120226 look it's not going to end problems but _jTyoT03i-u-00422-00120227-00120421 it might sort of help alleviate some - _jTyoT03i-u-00423-00120422-00120721 cane toad issues when they get up to a _jTyoT03i-u-00424-00120722-00120946 waterway which have these water brats in _jTyoT03i-u-00425-00120947-00121528 them so it might slow down or it could _jTyoT03i-u-00426-00121529-00121919 um yeah a bit of a line of defense _jTyoT03i-u-00427-00121920-00122191 against cane toads maybe not a big one _jTyoT03i-u-00428-00122192-00122533 but you know every little bit adds up _jTyoT03i-u-00429-00122534-00122872 and it's interesting to see if the _jTyoT03i-u-00430-00122873-00123056 tactics do spread between different _jTyoT03i-u-00431-00123057-00123316 groups of rats because I mean if nothing _jTyoT03i-u-00432-00123317-00123475 else and it's a great source of food _jTyoT03i-u-00433-00123476-00123731 that no one else is really exploiting _jTyoT03i-u-00434-00123732-00123898 you've got your own little ecological _jTyoT03i-u-00435-00123899-00124261 niche they of it so it's only in the _jTyoT03i-u-00436-00124262-00124524 Kimberley yeah so far that's these yeah _jTyoT03i-u-00437-00124525-00124793 but that's the really amazing thing _jTyoT03i-u-00438-00124794-00125038 actually from what I read it's just in _jTyoT03i-u-00439-00125039-00125227 like this five meter stretch of break _jTyoT03i-u-00440-00125228-00125623 it's such a localized event yeah really _jTyoT03i-u-00441-00125624-00126085 like really local so fingers crossed for _jTyoT03i-u-00442-00126086-00126391 the water rats sake that they can teach _jTyoT03i-u-00443-00126392-00126835 other groups so that's the I mean as you _jTyoT03i-u-00444-00126836-00127106 said that how they're actually learning _jTyoT03i-u-00445-00127107-00127447 this is stunning so apparently they the _jTyoT03i-u-00446-00127448-00127658 the mother's teach their offspring had a _jTyoT03i-u-00447-00127658-00127951 hunt after they weaned them so there's a _jTyoT03i-u-00448-00127952-00128185 so they're passing stuff on but can you _jTyoT03i-u-00449-00128186-00128269 imagine that _jTyoT03i-u-00450-00128270-00128665 I mean for humans we're gonna write _jTyoT03i-u-00451-00128666-00129233 stuff down normally these bit okay okay _jTyoT03i-u-00452-00129233-00129593 I'm dying right making that you know I _jTyoT03i-u-00453-00129594-00129913 mean like how do they the rats on _jTyoT03i-u-00454-00129914-00130066 comparing notes it's not like they're _jTyoT03i-u-00455-00130067-00130375 going haha now we know it's that bit _jTyoT03i-u-00456-00130376-00130648 that we don't need you know it's I find _jTyoT03i-u-00457-00130649-00130783 that incredible that they figured that _jTyoT03i-u-00458-00130784-00131029 out and this is some scent or something _jTyoT03i-u-00459-00131030-00131296 that they can they can adapt to maybe _jTyoT03i-u-00460-00131297-00131468 their the fact that they've got maybe _jTyoT03i-u-00461-00131469-00131674 they because they're rodents and they _jTyoT03i-u-00462-00131675-00131929 chew maybe they they're kind of more _jTyoT03i-u-00463-00131930-00132103 attuned rather than snakes and pythons _jTyoT03i-u-00464-00132104-00132262 and stuff it will just grab them and _jTyoT03i-u-00465-00132263-00132458 just swallow them and go ah that was a _jTyoT03i-u-00466-00132459-00132814 mistake I just find that incredible well _jTyoT03i-u-00467-00132815-00133019 I've read that omnivores _jTyoT03i-u-00468-00133020-00133307 so like rodents like humans often tend _jTyoT03i-u-00469-00133308-00133364 to be _jTyoT03i-u-00470-00133365-00133490 pretty smart about their food choices _jTyoT03i-u-00471-00133491-00133691 they're a bit more discerning and able _jTyoT03i-u-00472-00133692-00133901 to judge foods on their own merits _jTyoT03i-u-00473-00133902-00134150 rather than like I just eat eucalyptus _jTyoT03i-u-00474-00134151-00134366 and eucalyptus is what I eat you know we _jTyoT03i-u-00475-00134367-00134708 have to be able to make calls about what _jTyoT03i-u-00476-00134709-00134861 foods are good or which bits of foods _jTyoT03i-u-00477-00134862-00135074 are good in what the other thing that _jTyoT03i-u-00478-00135075-00135272 really struck me and is the fact that _jTyoT03i-u-00479-00135273-00135491 it's a native species these ones a _jTyoT03i-u-00480-00135492-00135713 native water rat so at least they're not _jTyoT03i-u-00481-00135714-00136019 introduced but they're not that as you _jTyoT03i-u-00482-00136020-00136274 say they weren't so localized you know _jTyoT03i-u-00483-00136275-00136487 are there I assume there are equal _jTyoT03i-u-00484-00136488-00136697 dangers with with taking some water rats _jTyoT03i-u-00485-00136698-00136829 from there and introducing them _jTyoT03i-u-00486-00136830-00137054 elsewhere because you're still messing _jTyoT03i-u-00487-00137055-00137312 with you know in this their areas where _jTyoT03i-u-00488-00137313-00137489 they've already got water rats but it's _jTyoT03i-u-00489-00137490-00137648 not like thinking to sort of hold a _jTyoT03i-u-00490-00137649-00138020 class and TAFE teach them how to do it I _jTyoT03i-u-00491-00138021-00138155 mean they've got to out-compete the _jTyoT03i-u-00492-00138156-00138574 other one such really promising _jTyoT03i-u-00493-00138575-00138749 different different groups will _jTyoT03i-u-00494-00138750-00138962 interbreed and yadda-yadda like the _jTyoT03i-u-00495-00138963-00139169 tactics could spread among the _jTyoT03i-u-00496-00139170-00139399 population without us necessarily _jTyoT03i-u-00497-00139400-00139700 transplanting maybe show them videos _jTyoT03i-u-00498-00139701-00140390 this is another water at doing yes there _jTyoT03i-u-00499-00140391-00140528 was a sentence that jumped out at me _jTyoT03i-u-00500-00140529-00140750 though which was when they're talking _jTyoT03i-u-00501-00140751-00141053 about they're finding all these toads _jTyoT03i-u-00502-00141054-00141515 with these precision surgical wounds the _jTyoT03i-u-00503-00141516-00141803 finding intrigued us enough to dissect _jTyoT03i-u-00504-00141804-00142070 waterlogged and rotting toad bodies in _jTyoT03i-u-00505-00142071-00142421 40 degree heat well that's not an _jTyoT03i-u-00506-00142422-00142886 exciting job I would imagine that's I've _jTyoT03i-u-00507-00142887-00143198 got something for you to do you've got _jTyoT03i-u-00508-00143199-00143429 to be certain you know I level intrigue _jTyoT03i-u-00509-00143430-00143792 that's required for that definitely I _jTyoT03i-u-00510-00143793-00144056 want to know more I want to follow up _jTyoT03i-u-00511-00144057-00144530 study because I think we talked about _jTyoT03i-u-00512-00144531-00144995 some what was it was it some particular _jTyoT03i-u-00513-00144996-00145337 ants were targeting cane toads from some _jTyoT03i-u-00514-00145338-00145526 from memory I think we talked about on a _jTyoT03i-u-00515-00145527-00145727 previous show I don't remember well they _jTyoT03i-u-00516-00145728-00145898 haven't what are they doing why they _jTyoT03i-u-00517-00145899-00146171 hung up I know we've talked about I _jTyoT03i-u-00518-00146172-00146396 think it was crows that will flip the _jTyoT03i-u-00519-00146397-00146681 cane toad over and show the belly their _jTyoT03i-u-00520-00146682-00146757 bellies isn't _jTyoT03i-u-00521-00146758-00147210 yeah isn't poisonous but I don't know so _jTyoT03i-u-00522-00147211-00147405 lots of little ways that we're finding _jTyoT03i-u-00523-00147406-00147666 to stop the problem that not enough _jTyoT03i-u-00524-00147667-00148236 clearly since a growing issue but that's _jTyoT03i-u-00525-00148237-00148470 all we've got for this show as always _jTyoT03i-u-00526-00148471-00148641 all the links we talked about are in the _jTyoT03i-u-00527-00148642-00148824 show notes and on the web but science on _jTyoT03i-u-00528-00148825-00149057 top comm slash three four three _jTyoT03i-u-00529-00149058-00149292 thanks to all our patreon supporters _jTyoT03i-u-00530-00149293-00149472 you're the reason we're able to do this _jTyoT03i-u-00531-00149473-00149664 show so thanks to everyone who's been to _jTyoT03i-u-00532-00149665-00149889 science on top calm slash donate and _jTyoT03i-u-00533-00149890-00150159 signed up and thank you penny and Lucas _jTyoT03i-u-00534-00150160-00150501 no urge thanks ed and a big thank you to _jTyoT03i-u-00535-00150502-00150675 everyone for listening we'll be back _jTyoT03i-u-00536-00150676-00150924 again next week putting science on top _jTyoT03i-u-00537-00150925-00151751 the agenda join us then _jTyoT03i-u-00538-00151752-00152156 so tell us about that contrast because I _jTyoT03i-u-00539-00152157-00152445 found school oppressive at times _jTyoT03i-u-00540-00152446-00152724 probably because I moved a lot but you _jTyoT03i-u-00541-00152725-00152988 know I was a curious kid I had a great _jTyoT03i-u-00542-00152989-00153240 passion for learning and I did not feel _jTyoT03i-u-00543-00153241-00153492 that at school yes like let's put it _jTyoT03i-u-00544-00153493-00153684 this way if you were to go in your _jTyoT03i-u-00545-00153685-00153813 computer and you're like hold on hon do _jTyoT03i-u-00546-00153814-00153984 magnets work and you type it up you're _jTyoT03i-u-00547-00153985-00154131 gonna get an answer your milk wow this _jTyoT03i-u-00548-00154132-00154287 is actually really cool you click on the _jTyoT03i-u-00549-00154288-00154416 next link and the next thing and _jTyoT03i-u-00550-00154417-00154715 suddenly you're like a PhD in _jTyoT03i-u-00551-00154716-00155139 electromagnetism but if you just got _jTyoT03i-u-00552-00155140-00155283 taught in school and you're like well _jTyoT03i-u-00553-00155284-00155487 I'm gonna go I want to go to our class _jTyoT03i-u-00554-00155488-00155697 can we leave it's not gonna be fun _jTyoT03i-u-00555-00155698-00155973 because the main difference is just that _jTyoT03i-u-00556-00155974-00156195 school it's driven just by the facts _jTyoT03i-u-00557-00156196-00156375 just by the knowledge you know you're _jTyoT03i-u-00558-00156376-00156633 being taught this so you can know what _jTyoT03i-u-00559-00156634-00156852 it is and you can understand but just _jTyoT03i-u-00560-00156853-00157062 what I found from tasks why that was so _jTyoT03i-u-00561-00157063-00157227 much better is that I was learning _jTyoT03i-u-00562-00157228-00157499 science but it was driven by curiosity _jTyoT03i-u-00563-00157500-00157851 what school does it doesn't cater to the _jTyoT03i-u-00564-00157852-00158010 fact that you're curious about something _jTyoT03i-u-00565-00158011-00158220 it just gives you that information _jTyoT03i-u-00566-00158221-00158349 whether or not it's what you want to _jTyoT03i-u-00567-00158350-00158523 hear well you don't want to hear but _jTyoT03i-u-00568-00158524-00158733 what end up liking or you just don't _jTyoT03i-u-00569-00158734-00158916 want to hear at all it just gives you _jTyoT03i-u-00570-00158917-00159072 the information and it like kind of _jTyoT03i-u-00571-00159073-00159366 kills curiosity it's just yeah it's _jTyoT03i-u-00572-00159367-00159504 there to give you the information _jTyoT03i-u-00573-00159505-00159660 because that's how a curriculum works _jTyoT03i-u-00574-00159661-00159960 but it's not there to answer your _jTyoT03i-u-00575-00159961-00160113 questions or do any of that and you _jTyoT03i-u-00576-00160114-00160311 really feel that and that's kind of ties _jTyoT03i-u-00577-00160312-00160527 into the whole oppressive thing they _jTyoT03i-u-00578-00160528-00160679 reckon that's a complete and utter _jTyoT03i-u-00579-00160680-00160953 tragedy of modern education though that _jTyoT03i-u-00580-00160954-00161163 one statement that you make that school _jTyoT03i-u-00581-00161164-00161535 kills curiosity I mean what a disastrous _jTyoT03i-u-00582-00161536-00161808 situation that we found ourselves in if _jTyoT03i-u-00583-00161809-00162091 that's the reality of Education today _jTyoT03i-u-00584-00162092-00162360 unfortunately it's not great you know _jTyoT03i-u-00585-00162361-00162501 we're just kind of taught in the style _jTyoT03i-u-00586-00162502-00162690 the Industrial Age you learn how to do _jTyoT03i-u-00587-00162691-00163062 something you grow up you do it you die _jTyoT03i-u-00588-00163063-00163299 if you don't do it you get punished you _jTyoT03i-u-00589-00163300-00163602 do do it you get to work some more and _jTyoT03i-u-00590-00163603-00163974 then eventually you die _lMoaKCqMZ4-00000-00000035-00000284 party leaders and whips of the United _lMoaKCqMZ4-00001-00000285-00000503 States House of Representatives also _lMoaKCqMZ4-00002-00000504-00000674 known as floor leaders are elected by _lMoaKCqMZ4-00003-00000675-00000821 their respective parties in a _lMoaKCqMZ4-00004-00000822-00001112 closed-door caucus by secret ballot with _lMoaKCqMZ4-00005-00001113-00001300 the Republicans holding a majority of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00006-00001301-00001472 seats and the Democrats holding a _lMoaKCqMZ4-00007-00001473-00001639 minority the current leaders are _lMoaKCqMZ4-00008-00001641-00001904 Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy Majority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00009-00001905-00002110 Whip Steve Scalise Minority Leader Nancy _lMoaKCqMZ4-00010-00002111-00002892 Pelosi and Minority Whip Steny Hoyer _lMoaKCqMZ4-00011-00002893-00003454 Topic job description _lMoaKCqMZ4-00012-00003455-00003727 unlike in Westminster style legislators _lMoaKCqMZ4-00013-00003728-00003886 or is with the Senate Majority Leader _lMoaKCqMZ4-00014-00003887-00004124 the House Majority Leader's duties and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00015-00004125-00004325 prominence vary depending upon the style _lMoaKCqMZ4-00016-00004326-00004525 and power of the Speaker of the House _lMoaKCqMZ4-00017-00004526-00004736 typically the speaker does not _lMoaKCqMZ4-00018-00004737-00004949 participate in debate and rarely votes _lMoaKCqMZ4-00019-00004950-00005243 on the floor in some cases majority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00020-00005244-00005417 leaders have been more influential than _lMoaKCqMZ4-00021-00005418-00005645 the speaker notably Tom DeLay was more _lMoaKCqMZ4-00022-00005646-00005875 prominent than Speaker Dennis Hastert in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00023-00005876-00006172 addition Speaker Newt Gingrich delegated _lMoaKCqMZ4-00024-00006173-00006392 to Dick Armey an unprecedented level of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00025-00006393-00006626 authority over scheduling legislation on _lMoaKCqMZ4-00026-00006627-00006709 the House floor _lMoaKCqMZ4-00027-00006711-00006923 the current Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi _lMoaKCqMZ4-00028-00006923-00007141 serves as floor leader of the opposition _lMoaKCqMZ4-00029-00007142-00007304 party and is the counterpart to the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00030-00007305-00007531 majority leader unlike the majority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00031-00007533-00007754 leader the Minority Leader is on the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00032-00007755-00007924 ballot for Speaker of the House during _lMoaKCqMZ4-00033-00007925-00008162 the convening of the Congress if the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00034-00008163-00008371 minority leaders party takes control of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00035-00008372-00008585 the house and the party officers are all _lMoaKCqMZ4-00036-00008586-00008791 reelected to their seats the Minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00037-00008792-00009002 Leader is usually the party's top choice _lMoaKCqMZ4-00038-00009003-00009194 for speaker for the next Congress while _lMoaKCqMZ4-00039-00009195-00009385 the Minority Whip is typically in line _lMoaKCqMZ4-00040-00009386-00009664 to become Majority Leader the Minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00041-00009665-00009838 Leader usually meets with the majority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00042-00009839-00010013 leader and the speaker to discuss _lMoaKCqMZ4-00043-00010014-00010321 agreements on controversial issues the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00044-00010322-00010538 speaker majority leader Minority Leader _lMoaKCqMZ4-00045-00010539-00010784 Majority Whip and Minority Whip all _lMoaKCqMZ4-00046-00010785-00010967 receive special office suites in the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00047-00010968-00011603 United States Capitol _lMoaKCqMZ4-00048-00011604-00012120 topic selection _lMoaKCqMZ4-00049-00012121-00012318 the floor leaders and whips of each _lMoaKCqMZ4-00050-00012319-00012483 party are elected by their respective _lMoaKCqMZ4-00051-00012484-00012696 parties in a closed-door caucus by _lMoaKCqMZ4-00052-00012697-00012977 secret ballot the speaker elect has also _lMoaKCqMZ4-00053-00012978-00013194 chosen in a closed-door session although _lMoaKCqMZ4-00054-00013194-00013338 they are formally installed in their _lMoaKCqMZ4-00055-00013338-00013557 position by a public vote when Congress _lMoaKCqMZ4-00056-00013558-00013746 reconvenes like the Speaker of the House _lMoaKCqMZ4-00057-00013747-00013938 the minority leaders are typically _lMoaKCqMZ4-00058-00013938-00014109 experienced lawmakers when they win _lMoaKCqMZ4-00059-00014110-00014363 election to this position when Nancy _lMoaKCqMZ4-00060-00014365-00014661 Pelosi DCA became minority leader in the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00061-00014662-00014874 108th Congress she had served in the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00062-00014875-00015078 house nearly twenty years and had served _lMoaKCqMZ4-00063-00015079-00015335 as Minority Whip in the 107th Congress _lMoaKCqMZ4-00064-00015336-00015591 when her predecessor Richard Gephardt _lMoaKCqMZ4-00065-00015591-00015933 dimo became minority leader in the 104th _lMoaKCqMZ4-00066-00015934-00016101 House he had been in the house for _lMoaKCqMZ4-00067-00016102-00016316 almost 20 years had served as chairman _lMoaKCqMZ4-00068-00016318-00016521 of the Democratic caucus for four years _lMoaKCqMZ4-00069-00016522-00016794 had been a 1988 presidential candidate _lMoaKCqMZ4-00070-00016795-00016980 and had been Majority Leader from June _lMoaKCqMZ4-00071-00016981-00017277 1989 until Republicans captured control _lMoaKCqMZ4-00072-00017278-00017502 of the house in the November 1994 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00073-00017503-00017790 elections gephardt's predecessor in the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00074-00017791-00018006 minority leadership position was Robert _lMoaKCqMZ4-00075-00018007-00018282 Michelle are ill who became GOP leader _lMoaKCqMZ4-00076-00018283-00018591 in 1981 after spending 24 years in the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00077-00018592-00018644 house _lMoaKCqMZ4-00078-00018645-00018930 Michelle's predecessor Republican John _lMoaKCqMZ4-00079-00018931-00019169 Rhodes of Arizona was elected Minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00080-00019170-00019464 Leader in 1973 after 20 years of House _lMoaKCqMZ4-00081-00019465-00019815 service by contrast party leaders of the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00082-00019816-00020028 United States Senate have often ascended _lMoaKCqMZ4-00083-00020029-00020228 to their position despite relatively few _lMoaKCqMZ4-00084-00020229-00020450 years of experience in that chamber such _lMoaKCqMZ4-00085-00020451-00020694 as lyndon b johnson William F Nolan and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00086-00020695-00020777 Bill Frist _lMoaKCqMZ4-00087-00020778-00021039 former House Majority Leader Eric Cantor _lMoaKCqMZ4-00088-00021040-00021291 also had a comparatively quick rise to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00089-00021292-00021450 the post and was the youngest House _lMoaKCqMZ4-00090-00021451-00022171 Majority Leader in American history _lMoaKCqMZ4-00091-00022172-00022677 topic doodies _lMoaKCqMZ4-00092-00022678-00022932 the House Majority Leader's duties vary _lMoaKCqMZ4-00093-00022933-00023139 depending upon the political makeup of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00094-00023140-00023403 the majority caucus in several recent _lMoaKCqMZ4-00095-00023404-00023586 sessions of Congress with the notable _lMoaKCqMZ4-00096-00023587-00023805 exception of the Pelosi speakership the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00097-00023806-00023955 majority leader has been primarily _lMoaKCqMZ4-00098-00023956-00024162 responsible for scheduling the house _lMoaKCqMZ4-00099-00024163-00024387 floors legislative calendar and direct _lMoaKCqMZ4-00100-00024388-00024678 management for all House committees one _lMoaKCqMZ4-00101-00024679-00025152 statutory duty per 19 USC Section 2191 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00102-00025153-00025434 c1 stipulates that an implementing bill _lMoaKCqMZ4-00103-00025435-00025605 submitted by the President of the United _lMoaKCqMZ4-00104-00025606-00025844 States for a fast-track negotiating _lMoaKCqMZ4-00105-00025845-00026037 Authority trade promotion Authority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00106-00026038-00026235 trade agreement must be introduced by _lMoaKCqMZ4-00107-00026236-00026427 request in the House by the majority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00108-00026427-00027026 leader of the house _lMoaKCqMZ4-00109-00027027-00027544 topic history _lMoaKCqMZ4-00110-00027545-00027850 before 1899 the majority party floor _lMoaKCqMZ4-00111-00027851-00028012 leader had traditionally been the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00112-00028013-00028152 chairman of the House Ways and Means _lMoaKCqMZ4-00113-00028154-00028369 Committee the most powerful committee in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00114-00028370-00028558 the house as it generates the Bills of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00115-00028558-00028786 revenue specified in the Constitution as _lMoaKCqMZ4-00116-00028787-00028983 the houses unique power the office of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00117-00028985-00029275 Majority Leader was created in 1899 and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00118-00029276-00029487 first occupied by sureno pain _lMoaKCqMZ4-00119-00029488-00029764 speaker David B Henderson created the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00120-00029764-00029974 position to establish a party leader on _lMoaKCqMZ4-00121-00029975-00030124 the House floor separate from the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00122-00030125-00030307 speaker as the role of speaker had _lMoaKCqMZ4-00123-00030308-00030487 become more prominent and the size of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00124-00030488-00030706 the house had grown from 105 at the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00125-00030707-00031020 beginning of the century to 356 starting _lMoaKCqMZ4-00126-00031022-00031201 with Republican Nicholas Longworth in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00127-00031202-00031470 1925 and continued through the Democrats _lMoaKCqMZ4-00128-00031472-00031807 control of the house from 1931 to 1995 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00129-00031808-00032158 safer Republican majorities in 1947 to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00130-00032158-00032554 49 in 1953 to 55 all Majority Leader's _lMoaKCqMZ4-00131-00032555-00032695 have directly ascended to the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00132-00032695-00032836 speakership brought upon by the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00133-00032837-00033082 retirement of the incumbent the only _lMoaKCqMZ4-00134-00033083-00033256 exceptions during this period were _lMoaKCqMZ4-00135-00033257-00033478 Charles a Halleck who became Republican _lMoaKCqMZ4-00136-00033479-00033658 house leader and Minority Leader from _lMoaKCqMZ4-00137-00033659-00034048 1959 to 1965 Hale Boggs who died in a _lMoaKCqMZ4-00138-00034049-00034261 plane crash and Dick Gephardt who became _lMoaKCqMZ4-00139-00034262-00034429 the Democrats house leader but his _lMoaKCqMZ4-00140-00034430-00034615 Minority Leader since his party lost _lMoaKCqMZ4-00141-00034616-00034896 control in the 1994 midterm elections _lMoaKCqMZ4-00142-00034897-00035254 since 1995 the only majority leader to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00143-00035255-00035458 become Speaker as John Boehner though _lMoaKCqMZ4-00144-00035459-00035689 indirectly as his party lost control in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00145-00035690-00035983 the 2006 midterms elections he _lMoaKCqMZ4-00146-00035984-00036187 subsequently served as Republican house _lMoaKCqMZ4-00147-00036188-00036472 leader and minority leader from 2007 to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00148-00036473-00036706 2011 and then was elected Speaker when _lMoaKCqMZ4-00149-00036707-00037072 the house reconvened in 2011 in 1998 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00150-00037073-00037270 with Speaker Newt Gingrich announcing _lMoaKCqMZ4-00151-00037271-00037471 his resignation both Majority Leader _lMoaKCqMZ4-00152-00037472-00037702 Dick Armey and Majority Whip Tom DeLay _lMoaKCqMZ4-00153-00037703-00037891 did not contest the speakership which _lMoaKCqMZ4-00154-00037892-00038062 eventually went to chief deputy whip _lMoaKCqMZ4-00155-00038063-00038401 Dennis Hastert traditionally the speaker _lMoaKCqMZ4-00156-00038402-00038527 is reckoned as the leader of the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00157-00038528-00038707 majority party in the house with the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00158-00038708-00038986 majority leader as second-in-command for _lMoaKCqMZ4-00159-00038987-00039172 instance when the Republicans gained the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00160-00039173-00039382 majority in the house after the 2010 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00161-00039383-00039604 elections Eric Cantor succeeded Boehner _lMoaKCqMZ4-00162-00039605-00039733 as Majority Leader _lMoaKCqMZ4-00163-00039734-00039931 despite this Cantor and his successor _lMoaKCqMZ4-00164-00039932-00040138 Kevin McCarthy have been reckoned as the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00165-00040139-00040321 second ranking Republicans in the house _lMoaKCqMZ4-00166-00040322-00040513 since Boehner was still reckoned as the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00167-00040514-00040750 leader of the House Republicans however _lMoaKCqMZ4-00168-00040751-00040930 there have been some exceptions _lMoaKCqMZ4-00169-00040931-00041128 the most recent exception to this rule _lMoaKCqMZ4-00170-00041129-00041329 came when Majority Leader Tom DeLay _lMoaKCqMZ4-00171-00041330-00041533 generally overshadowed Speaker Dennis _lMoaKCqMZ4-00172-00041534-00041830 Hastert from 2003 to 2006 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00173-00041831-00042118 in contrast the Minority Leader is the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00174-00042119-00042348 undisputed leader of the minority party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00175-00042349-00042619 when the presidency in both houses of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00176-00042620-00042847 Congress are controlled by one party the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00177-00042848-00043069 speaker normally takes a low profile and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00178-00043070-00043273 defers to the president for that _lMoaKCqMZ4-00179-00043274-00043510 situation the House Minority Leader can _lMoaKCqMZ4-00180-00043511-00043729 play the role of the de facto leader of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00181-00043730-00043987 the Opposition often moreso than the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00182-00043988-00044170 Senate Minority Leader due to the more _lMoaKCqMZ4-00183-00044171-00044344 partisan nature of the house and the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00184-00044345-00044605 greater role of leadership when the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00185-00044606-00044821 Majority Leader's party loses control of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00186-00044822-00044992 the house and if the speaker and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00187-00044993-00045169 Majority Leader both remain in the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00188-00045170-00045418 leadership hierarchy convention suggests _lMoaKCqMZ4-00189-00045419-00045556 that they would become the minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00190-00045557-00045778 leader and Minority Whip respectively as _lMoaKCqMZ4-00191-00045779-00046033 the minority party has one less _lMoaKCqMZ4-00192-00046034-00046219 leadership position after losing the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00193-00046220-00046408 speaker's chair there may be a contest _lMoaKCqMZ4-00194-00046409-00046611 for the remaining leadership positions _lMoaKCqMZ4-00195-00046612-00046915 Nancy Pelosi is the most recent example _lMoaKCqMZ4-00196-00046916-00047080 of an outgoing speaker seeking the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00197-00047081-00047278 Minority Leader post to retain the house _lMoaKCqMZ4-00198-00047279-00047494 party leadership as the Democrats lost _lMoaKCqMZ4-00199-00047495-00047686 control of the house in the 2010 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00200-00047687-00047938 elections she ran successfully for _lMoaKCqMZ4-00201-00047939-00048214 minority leader in the 112th Congress in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00202-00048215-00048325 2014 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00203-00048326-00048490 Eric Cantor became the first House _lMoaKCqMZ4-00204-00048491-00048682 Majority Leader to lose a primary _lMoaKCqMZ4-00205-00048683-00048958 election following his primary defeat _lMoaKCqMZ4-00206-00048959-00049152 Cantor announced his resignation as _lMoaKCqMZ4-00207-00049153-00049468 Majority Leader effective July 31st 2014 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00208-00049469-00049696 and he subsequently resigned his seat in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00209-00049697-00050258 Congress _lMoaKCqMZ4-00210-00050259-00050804 topic Minority Leader _lMoaKCqMZ4-00211-00050805-00051146 you _lMoaKCqMZ4-00212-00051147-00051771 topic responsibilities from an _lMoaKCqMZ4-00213-00051772-00051979 institutional perspective the rules of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00214-00051979-00052162 the house assign a number of specific _lMoaKCqMZ4-00215-00052163-00052371 responsibilities to the minority leader _lMoaKCqMZ4-00216-00052372-00052537 for example _lMoaKCqMZ4-00217-00052538-00052794 rule 12 clause 6 grant the minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00218-00052795-00052978 leader or their designee the right to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00219-00052979-00053110 offer a motion to recommit with _lMoaKCqMZ4-00220-00053111-00053404 instructions ruled to Clause 6 states _lMoaKCqMZ4-00221-00053404-00053601 the Inspector General shall be appointed _lMoaKCqMZ4-00222-00053602-00053794 by joint recommendation of the speaker _lMoaKCqMZ4-00223-00053795-00054025 majority leader and minority leader in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00224-00054026-00054279 rule 15 clause 6 provides that the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00225-00054280-00054466 speaker after consultation with the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00226-00054466-00054697 minority leader may place legislation on _lMoaKCqMZ4-00227-00054698-00054954 the corrections calendar the minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00228-00054955-00055153 leader also has other institutional _lMoaKCqMZ4-00229-00055154-00055380 duties such as appointing individuals to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00230-00055382-00055672 certain federal entities from a party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00231-00055673-00055869 perspective the minority leader has a _lMoaKCqMZ4-00232-00055870-00056074 wide range of partisan assignments all _lMoaKCqMZ4-00233-00056075-00056292 geared toward retaking majority control _lMoaKCqMZ4-00234-00056294-00056560 of the house five principal party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00235-00056561-00056734 activities direct the work of the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00236-00056735-00056998 minority leader the Minority Leader _lMoaKCqMZ4-00237-00056999-00057238 provides campaign assistance to party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00238-00057239-00057547 incumbents and challengers the Minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00239-00057548-00057712 Leader devises strategies in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00240-00057713-00057900 consultation with other partisan _lMoaKCqMZ4-00241-00057901-00058107 colleagues that advance party objectives _lMoaKCqMZ4-00242-00058108-00058390 for example by stalling action on the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00243-00058391-00058605 majority party's agenda the minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00244-00058607-00058786 leader may be able to launch a campaign _lMoaKCqMZ4-00245-00058787-00059142 against a do-nothing Congress the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00246-00059144-00059335 minority leader works to promote and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00247-00059336-00059613 publicize the party's agenda the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00248-00059614-00059829 minority leader if their party controls _lMoaKCqMZ4-00249-00059830-00060034 the white house confers regularly with _lMoaKCqMZ4-00250-00060035-00060196 the president and the president's aides _lMoaKCqMZ4-00251-00060197-00060381 about issues before Congress the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00252-00060382-00060582 administration's agenda and political _lMoaKCqMZ4-00253-00060583-00060867 events generally the minority leader _lMoaKCqMZ4-00254-00060869-00061090 strives to promote party harmony so as _lMoaKCqMZ4-00255-00061091-00061300 to maximize the chances for legislative _lMoaKCqMZ4-00256-00061301-00061500 and political success the roles and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00257-00061501-00061704 responsibilities of the minority leader _lMoaKCqMZ4-00258-00061705-00061992 are not well defined to a large extent _lMoaKCqMZ4-00259-00061994-00062185 the functions of the minority leader are _lMoaKCqMZ4-00260-00062186-00062391 defined by tradition and custom a _lMoaKCqMZ4-00261-00062391-00062763 minority leader from 1931 to 1939 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00262-00062764-00063030 representative Bertrand Snell R&Y _lMoaKCqMZ4-00263-00063032-00063375 provided this job description he is _lMoaKCqMZ4-00264-00063376-00063610 spokesman for his party and enunciates _lMoaKCqMZ4-00265-00063611-00063906 its policies he is required to be alert _lMoaKCqMZ4-00266-00063907-00064068 and vigilant in defense of the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00267-00064069-00064392 minorities rights it is his function and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00268-00064394-00064435 duty _lMoaKCqMZ4-00269-00064436-00064678 to criticize constructively the policies _lMoaKCqMZ4-00270-00064679-00064912 and programs of the majority and to this _lMoaKCqMZ4-00271-00064913-00065154 end employ parliamentary tactics and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00272-00065155-00065350 give close attention to all proposed _lMoaKCqMZ4-00273-00065351-00065680 legislation since Snell's description _lMoaKCqMZ4-00274-00065681-00065881 other responsibilities have been added _lMoaKCqMZ4-00275-00065882-00066160 to the job these duties involve an array _lMoaKCqMZ4-00276-00066161-00066357 of institutional and party functions _lMoaKCqMZ4-00277-00066358-00066606 before examining the institutional and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00278-00066607-00066799 party assignments of the minority leader _lMoaKCqMZ4-00279-00066800-00067000 it is worth highlighting the historical _lMoaKCqMZ4-00280-00067001-00067597 origin of this position _lMoaKCqMZ4-00281-00067598-00068139 topic origin of the post _lMoaKCqMZ4-00282-00068140-00068400 to a large extent the minority leaders _lMoaKCqMZ4-00283-00068401-00068630 position as a 20th century innovation _lMoaKCqMZ4-00284-00068631-00068910 prior to this time congressional parties _lMoaKCqMZ4-00285-00068911-00069108 were often relatively disorganized _lMoaKCqMZ4-00286-00069109-00069261 so it was not always evident who _lMoaKCqMZ4-00287-00069262-00069408 functioned as the opposition floor _lMoaKCqMZ4-00288-00069409-00069708 leader decades went by before anything _lMoaKCqMZ4-00289-00069709-00069903 like the modern two-party congressional _lMoaKCqMZ4-00290-00069904-00070092 system emerged on Capitol Hill with _lMoaKCqMZ4-00291-00070093-00070257 official titles for those who were its _lMoaKCqMZ4-00292-00070258-00070512 official leaders however from the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00293-00070513-00070719 beginning days of Congress various House _lMoaKCqMZ4-00294-00070720-00070899 members intermittently assumed the role _lMoaKCqMZ4-00295-00070900-00071205 of opposition leader some scholars _lMoaKCqMZ4-00296-00071206-00071388 suggest that representative James _lMoaKCqMZ4-00297-00071389-00071571 Madison of Virginia informally _lMoaKCqMZ4-00298-00071572-00071807 functioned as the first Minority Leader _lMoaKCqMZ4-00299-00071808-00072060 because in the first Congress he led the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00300-00072061-00072249 opposition to Treasury secretary _lMoaKCqMZ4-00301-00072250-00072477 Alexander Hamilton's fiscal policies _lMoaKCqMZ4-00302-00072478-00072672 during this early period it was more _lMoaKCqMZ4-00303-00072673-00072885 usual that neither major party grouping _lMoaKCqMZ4-00304-00072886-00073107 Federalists and Democratic Republicans _lMoaKCqMZ4-00305-00073108-00073431 had an official leader in 1813 for _lMoaKCqMZ4-00306-00073432-00073617 instance a scholar recounts that the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00307-00073618-00073872 Federalist minority of 36 members needed _lMoaKCqMZ4-00308-00073873-00074133 a committee of 13 to represent a party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00309-00074134-00074487 comprising a distinct minority and to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00310-00074488-00074688 coordinate the actions of men who were _lMoaKCqMZ4-00311-00074689-00075029 already partisans in the same cause in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00312-00075030-00075300 1828 a foreign observer of the house _lMoaKCqMZ4-00313-00075301-00075507 offered this perspective on the absence _lMoaKCqMZ4-00314-00075508-00075708 of formal party leadership on Capitol _lMoaKCqMZ4-00315-00075709-00075975 Hill I found there were absolutely no _lMoaKCqMZ4-00316-00075976-00076176 persons holding the stations of what are _lMoaKCqMZ4-00317-00076177-00076389 called in England leaders on either side _lMoaKCqMZ4-00318-00076390-00076725 of the house it is true that certain _lMoaKCqMZ4-00319-00076726-00076920 members do take charge of administration _lMoaKCqMZ4-00320-00076921-00077112 questions and certain others of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00321-00077113-00077310 opposition questions but all this so _lMoaKCqMZ4-00322-00077311-00077475 obviously without concert among _lMoaKCqMZ4-00323-00077476-00077715 themselves actual or tacit that nothing _lMoaKCqMZ4-00324-00077716-00077925 can be conceived less systematic or more _lMoaKCqMZ4-00325-00077926-00078177 completely desultory disjointed internal _lMoaKCqMZ4-00326-00078178-00078390 party disunity compounded the difficulty _lMoaKCqMZ4-00327-00078391-00078576 of identifying lawmakers who might have _lMoaKCqMZ4-00328-00078577-00078723 informally functioned as a minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00329-00078724-00079032 leader for instance seven of the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00330-00079033-00079359 fourteen speakership elections from 1834 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00331-00079360-00079641 through 1859 had at least twenty _lMoaKCqMZ4-00332-00079642-00079977 different candidates in the field 36 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00333-00079978-00080610 competed in 1839 97 in 1849 91 in 1859 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00334-00080611-00081162 and 138 in 1855 with so many candidates _lMoaKCqMZ4-00335-00081163-00081363 competing for the speakership it is not _lMoaKCqMZ4-00336-00081364-00081531 at all clear that one of the defeat _lMoaKCqMZ4-00337-00081532-00081711 lawmakers then assumed the mantle of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00338-00081712-00082044 Minority Leader the Democratic minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00339-00082045-00082401 from 1861 to 1875 was so completely _lMoaKCqMZ4-00340-00082402-00082617 disorganized that they did not nominate _lMoaKCqMZ4-00341-00082618-00082863 a candidate for speaker in two of these _lMoaKCqMZ4-00342-00082864-00083103 seven congresses and nominated no man _lMoaKCqMZ4-00343-00083104-00083376 more than once in the other five the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00344-00083377-00083544 defeated candidates were not _lMoaKCqMZ4-00345-00083545-00083706 automatically looked to for leadership _lMoaKCqMZ4-00346-00083707-00084012 in the judgment of political scientist _lMoaKCqMZ4-00347-00084013-00084336 Randall Ripley since 1883 the candidate _lMoaKCqMZ4-00348-00084337-00084570 for speaker nominated by the minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00349-00084571-00084780 party has clearly been the Minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00350-00084781-00084866 Leader _lMoaKCqMZ4-00351-00084867-00085128 however this assertion is subject to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00352-00085129-00085467 dispute on December 3rd 1883 the house _lMoaKCqMZ4-00353-00085468-00085698 elected Democrat John G Carlyle of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00354-00085699-00085992 Kentucky as speaker Republicans placed _lMoaKCqMZ4-00355-00085993-00086196 in nomination for the speakership J _lMoaKCqMZ4-00356-00086197-00086436 Warren Kiefer of Ohio who has speaker _lMoaKCqMZ4-00357-00086437-00086733 the previous Congress clearly Kiefer was _lMoaKCqMZ4-00358-00086734-00086982 not the Republicans Minority Leader he _lMoaKCqMZ4-00359-00086983-00087174 was a discredited leader in part because _lMoaKCqMZ4-00360-00087175-00087378 a speaker he arbitrarily handed out _lMoaKCqMZ4-00361-00087379-00087757 choice jobs to close relatives _lMoaKCqMZ4-00362-00087758-00088096 all at handsome salaries Keefer received _lMoaKCqMZ4-00363-00088097-00088312 the empty honour of the minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00364-00088313-00088579 nomination but with it came a stink for _lMoaKCqMZ4-00365-00088580-00088777 while this naturally involves the floor _lMoaKCqMZ4-00366-00088778-00088960 leadership he was deserted by his _lMoaKCqMZ4-00367-00088961-00089212 partisan associates and his career as a _lMoaKCqMZ4-00368-00089213-00089565 national figure terminated ingloriously _lMoaKCqMZ4-00369-00089566-00089833 representative Thomas Reid army who _lMoaKCqMZ4-00370-00089834-00090028 later became Speaker assumed the de _lMoaKCqMZ4-00371-00090029-00090241 facto role of minority floor leader in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00372-00090242-00090559 KY first ed a LT Huff Keefer was the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00373-00090560-00090769 minorities candidate for speaker Reid _lMoaKCqMZ4-00374-00090770-00090952 became its acknowledged leader and ever _lMoaKCqMZ4-00375-00090953-00091138 after so long as he served in the house _lMoaKCqMZ4-00376-00091139-00091348 remained the most conspicuous member of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00377-00091349-00091419 his party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00378-00091420-00091651 another scholar contends that the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00379-00091652-00091864 Minority Leader position emerged even _lMoaKCqMZ4-00380-00091865-00092236 before 1883 on the Democratic side there _lMoaKCqMZ4-00381-00092237-00092437 were serious caucus fights for the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00382-00092438-00092758 minority speakership nomination in 1871 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00383-00092759-00093259 and 1873 indicating that the nomination _lMoaKCqMZ4-00384-00093260-00093421 carried with it some vestige of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00385-00093422-00093700 leadership further when Republicans were _lMoaKCqMZ4-00386-00093701-00093925 in the minority the party nominated for _lMoaKCqMZ4-00387-00093926-00094150 Speaker a series of prominent lawmakers _lMoaKCqMZ4-00388-00094151-00094360 including ex speaker James Blaine of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00389-00094361-00094675 Maine in 1875 former appropriations _lMoaKCqMZ4-00390-00094676-00095100 chairman James Garfield of Ohio in 1876 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00391-00095101-00095476 1877 and 1879 an ex Speaker Kiefer in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00392-00095477-00095758 1883 it is hard to believe that house _lMoaKCqMZ4-00393-00095759-00095956 partisans would place a man in the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00394-00095957-00096160 speakership when in the majority and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00395-00096161-00096367 nominate him for this office when in the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00396-00096368-00096553 minority and not looked to him for _lMoaKCqMZ4-00397-00096554-00096859 legislative guidance this was not the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00398-00096860-00097051 case according to some observers with _lMoaKCqMZ4-00399-00097052-00097360 respect to X Speaker Kiefer in brief _lMoaKCqMZ4-00400-00097361-00097567 there is disagreement among historical _lMoaKCqMZ4-00401-00097568-00097750 analysts as to the exact time period _lMoaKCqMZ4-00402-00097751-00097930 when the minority leadership emerged _lMoaKCqMZ4-00403-00097931-00098113 officially as a party position _lMoaKCqMZ4-00404-00098114-00098389 nonetheless it seems safe to conclude _lMoaKCqMZ4-00405-00098390-00098551 that the position emerged during the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00406-00098552-00098797 latter part of the 19th century a period _lMoaKCqMZ4-00407-00098798-00098983 of strong party organization and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00408-00098984-00099262 professional politicians this era was _lMoaKCqMZ4-00409-00099263-00099538 marked by strong partisan attachments _lMoaKCqMZ4-00410-00099539-00099760 resilient patronage based party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00411-00099761-00100174 organizations and less than pre greater _lMoaKCqMZ4-00412-00100175-00100435 than pre greater than dot dot dot high _lMoaKCqMZ4-00413-00100436-00100704 levels of party voting in Congress _lMoaKCqMZ4-00414-00100705-00100978 plainly these were conditions conducive _lMoaKCqMZ4-00415-00100979-00101151 to the establishment of a more _lMoaKCqMZ4-00416-00101152-00101418 highly differentiated house leadership _lMoaKCqMZ4-00417-00101419-00101937 structure _lMoaKCqMZ4-00418-00101938-00102252 topic minority party nominees for _lMoaKCqMZ4-00419-00102253-00102918 speaker 1865 to 1897 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00420-00102919-00103146 while the office of the house historian _lMoaKCqMZ4-00421-00103147-00103365 only lists minority leaders starting in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00422-00103366-00103680 1899 the minorities nominees for speaker _lMoaKCqMZ4-00423-00103681-00103863 at the beginning of each Congress may be _lMoaKCqMZ4-00424-00103864-00104033 considered their party's leaders before _lMoaKCqMZ4-00425-00104034-00104718 that time 1865 James Brooks dny 1867 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00426-00104719-00105252 Samuel s Marshall DL 1869 Michael seeker _lMoaKCqMZ4-00427-00105253-00105911 D in 1871 George W Morgan do 1873 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00428-00105913-00106425 Fernando wood d NY 1875 James Gillespie _lMoaKCqMZ4-00429-00106426-00107013 Blaine army 1877 1879 James Abram _lMoaKCqMZ4-00430-00107014-00107343 Garfield ro 1881 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00431-00107344-00107823 Samuel Jackson Randall DPA 1883 Joseph _lMoaKCqMZ4-00432-00107824-00108333 Warren Kieffer ro 1885 1887 Thomas _lMoaKCqMZ4-00433-00108333-00108761 Brackett Reed army 9 John Griffin _lMoaKCqMZ4-00434-00108763-00109305 Carlisle dky 1891 1893 Thomas Brackett _lMoaKCqMZ4-00435-00109306-00110001 Reed army 95 Charles F Kris diga 1897 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00436-00110002-00110706 Joseph W Bailey DTX _lMoaKCqMZ4-00437-00110707-00111158 topic trends _lMoaKCqMZ4-00438-00111159-00111393 two other points of historical interest _lMoaKCqMZ4-00439-00111394-00111708 merit brief mention first until the 61st _lMoaKCqMZ4-00440-00111708-00112050 Congress 1909 1910 it was the custom to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00441-00112051-00112257 have the minority leader also serve as _lMoaKCqMZ4-00442-00112258-00112446 the ranking minority member on the two _lMoaKCqMZ4-00443-00112447-00112661 most powerful committees rules and ways _lMoaKCqMZ4-00444-00112663-00113013 and means today the minority leader no _lMoaKCqMZ4-00445-00113014-00113139 longer serves on these committees _lMoaKCqMZ4-00446-00113140-00113378 however he or she appoints the minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00447-00113379-00113584 members of the Rules Committee and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00448-00113585-00113814 influences the assignment of partisan _lMoaKCqMZ4-00449-00113815-00113940 colleagues to the Ways and Means _lMoaKCqMZ4-00450-00113941-00114264 Committee second Democrats have always _lMoaKCqMZ4-00451-00114265-00114479 elevated their minority floor leader to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00452-00114480-00114689 the speakership upon reclaiming majority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00453-00114690-00114941 status Republicans have not always _lMoaKCqMZ4-00454-00114942-00115113 followed this leadership succession _lMoaKCqMZ4-00455-00115114-00115464 pattern in 1919 for instance Republicans _lMoaKCqMZ4-00456-00115465-00115736 bypassed James our men are ill who had _lMoaKCqMZ4-00457-00115738-00115934 been Minority Leader for eight years an _lMoaKCqMZ4-00458-00115935-00116165 elected Frederick Gillette RMA to be _lMoaKCqMZ4-00459-00116166-00116534 Speaker man had angered many Republicans _lMoaKCqMZ4-00460-00116535-00116751 by objecting to their private bills on _lMoaKCqMZ4-00461-00116752-00117065 the floor also he was a protege of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00462-00117066-00117326 autocratic speaker Joseph cannon are ill _lMoaKCqMZ4-00463-00117327-00117677 1903 to 1911 and many members suspected _lMoaKCqMZ4-00464-00117678-00117890 that he would try to re centralize power _lMoaKCqMZ4-00465-00117891-00118253 in his hands if elected speaker more _lMoaKCqMZ4-00466-00118254-00118490 recently although Robert H Michel was _lMoaKCqMZ4-00467-00118491-00118752 the Minority Leader in 1994 when the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00468-00118753-00118940 Republicans regained control of the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00469-00118941-00119223 house in the 1994 midterm elections he _lMoaKCqMZ4-00470-00119224-00119418 had already announced his retirement and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00471-00119419-00119579 had little or no involvement in the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00472-00119580-00119765 campaign including the contract with _lMoaKCqMZ4-00473-00119766-00119966 America which was unveiled six weeks _lMoaKCqMZ4-00474-00119967-00120266 before voting day in the instance when _lMoaKCqMZ4-00475-00120267-00120434 the presidency in both houses of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00476-00120435-00120657 Congress are controlled by one party the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00477-00120658-00120876 speaker normally assumes a lower profile _lMoaKCqMZ4-00478-00120877-00121113 and defers to the president for that _lMoaKCqMZ4-00479-00121114-00121340 situation the House Minority Leader can _lMoaKCqMZ4-00480-00121341-00121572 play the role of the de facto leader of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00481-00121573-00121818 the Opposition often more so than the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00482-00121819-00122003 Senate Minority Leader due to the more _lMoaKCqMZ4-00483-00122004-00122177 partisan nature of the house and the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00484-00122178-00122433 greater role of leadership minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00485-00122433-00122591 leaders who have played prominent roles _lMoaKCqMZ4-00486-00122592-00122816 in opposing the incumbent president have _lMoaKCqMZ4-00487-00122817-00123008 included Gerald Ford Richard Gephardt _lMoaKCqMZ4-00488-00123009-00123722 Nancy Pelosi and John Boehner _lMoaKCqMZ4-00489-00123723-00124307 topic institutional functions _lMoaKCqMZ4-00490-00124308-00124504 the style and role of any minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00491-00124505-00124729 leader is influenced by a variety of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00492-00124730-00124939 elements including personality and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00493-00124940-00125176 contextual factors such as the size and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00494-00125177-00125369 cohesion of the minority party whether _lMoaKCqMZ4-00495-00125370-00125570 their party controls the white house the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00496-00125571-00125747 general political climate in the house _lMoaKCqMZ4-00497-00125748-00125923 and the controversy that is sometimes _lMoaKCqMZ4-00498-00125924-00126172 associated with the legislative agenda _lMoaKCqMZ4-00499-00126173-00126436 despite the variability of these factors _lMoaKCqMZ4-00500-00126437-00126604 there are a number of institutional _lMoaKCqMZ4-00501-00126605-00126782 obligations associated with this _lMoaKCqMZ4-00502-00126783-00127039 position many of these assignments or _lMoaKCqMZ4-00503-00127040-00127181 roles are spelled out in the house _lMoaKCqMZ4-00504-00127182-00127457 rulebook others have devolved upon the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00505-00127458-00127708 position in other ways to be sure the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00506-00127709-00127919 Minority Leader is provided with extra _lMoaKCqMZ4-00507-00127920-00128173 staff resources beyond those accorded _lMoaKCqMZ4-00508-00128174-00128422 him or her as a representative to assist _lMoaKCqMZ4-00509-00128423-00128672 in carrying out diverse leadership _lMoaKCqMZ4-00510-00128673-00128945 functions worth emphasis is that there _lMoaKCqMZ4-00511-00128946-00129139 are limits on the institutional role of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00512-00129140-00129304 the minority leader because the majority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00513-00129305-00129541 party exercises disproportionate _lMoaKCqMZ4-00514-00129542-00129736 influence over the agenda partisan _lMoaKCqMZ4-00515-00129737-00129963 ratios on committees staff resources _lMoaKCqMZ4-00516-00129964-00130172 administrative operations and the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00517-00130173-00130360 day-to-day schedule and management of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00518-00130361-00130651 floor activities under the rules of the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00519-00130652-00130849 house the Minority Leader has certain _lMoaKCqMZ4-00520-00130850-00131134 roles and responsibilities they include _lMoaKCqMZ4-00521-00131135-00131479 the following drug testing under rule I _lMoaKCqMZ4-00522-00131480-00131815 Clause 9 the speaker in consultation _lMoaKCqMZ4-00523-00131816-00132037 with the minority leader shall develop _lMoaKCqMZ4-00524-00132038-00132206 through an appropriate entity of the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00525-00132207-00132424 house a system for drug testing in the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00526-00132425-00132627 house _lMoaKCqMZ4-00527-00132628-00132978 inspector general rule 2 Clause 6 states _lMoaKCqMZ4-00528-00132979-00133212 that the Inspector General shall be _lMoaKCqMZ4-00529-00133213-00133428 appointed for a Congress by the speaker _lMoaKCqMZ4-00530-00133429-00133602 the majority leader and the Minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00531-00133603-00133998 Leader acting jointly this rule further _lMoaKCqMZ4-00532-00133999-00134181 states that the minority leader and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00533-00134182-00134370 other specified House leaders shall be _lMoaKCqMZ4-00534-00134371-00134592 notified of any financial irregularity _lMoaKCqMZ4-00535-00134593-00134778 in volva the house and receive audit _lMoaKCqMZ4-00536-00134779-00134996 reports of the inspector general _lMoaKCqMZ4-00537-00134997-00135288 questions of privilege under Rule ik's _lMoaKCqMZ4-00538-00135289-00135603 to a resolution offered as a question of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00539-00135604-00135834 privilege by the majority leader or the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00540-00135835-00136236 minority leader shall have precedence of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00541-00136237-00136458 all other questions except motions to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00542-00136459-00136776 adjourn this rule further references the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00543-00136777-00136953 Minority Leader with respect to the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00544-00136954-00137115 division of time for debate of these _lMoaKCqMZ4-00545-00137116-00137514 resolutions oversight plans under Rule X _lMoaKCqMZ4-00546-00137515-00137856 Clause 2 not later than March 31st in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00547-00137857-00138072 the first session of a Congress after _lMoaKCqMZ4-00548-00138073-00138270 consultation with the speaker the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00549-00138271-00138471 majority leader and the Minority Leader _lMoaKCqMZ4-00550-00138472-00138726 the Committee on Government Reform shall _lMoaKCqMZ4-00551-00138727-00138971 report to the house the oversight plans _lMoaKCqMZ4-00552-00138972-00139230 of the standing committees along with _lMoaKCqMZ4-00553-00139231-00139401 any recommendations it or the House _lMoaKCqMZ4-00554-00139402-00139569 leaders have proposed to ensure the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00555-00139570-00139743 effective coordination of committees _lMoaKCqMZ4-00556-00139744-00140040 oversight plans Committee on standards _lMoaKCqMZ4-00557-00140041-00140262 of official conduct investigative _lMoaKCqMZ4-00558-00140263-00140574 subcommittees rule X Clause 5 stipulates _lMoaKCqMZ4-00559-00140575-00140811 at the beginning of the Congress the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00560-00140812-00141048 speaker or his designee and the minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00561-00141049-00141246 leader or his designee each shall _lMoaKCqMZ4-00562-00141247-00141528 appoint 10 members delegates or resident _lMoaKCqMZ4-00563-00141529-00141744 commissioners from his respective party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00564-00141745-00141921 who are not members of the committee on _lMoaKCqMZ4-00565-00141922-00142119 standards of official conduct to be _lMoaKCqMZ4-00566-00142120-00142329 available to serve on investigative _lMoaKCqMZ4-00567-00142330-00142512 subcommittees of that committee during _lMoaKCqMZ4-00568-00142513-00142728 that Congress _lMoaKCqMZ4-00569-00142729-00142908 permanent Select Committee on _lMoaKCqMZ4-00570-00142909-00143175 Intelligence the speaker and Minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00571-00143176-00143409 Leader shall be ex officio members of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00572-00143410-00143595 the Select Committee but shall have no _lMoaKCqMZ4-00573-00143596-00143799 vote in the Select Committee and may not _lMoaKCqMZ4-00574-00143800-00144036 be counted for purposes of determining a _lMoaKCqMZ4-00575-00144037-00144336 quorum in addition each leader may _lMoaKCqMZ4-00576-00144337-00144510 designate a member of his leadership _lMoaKCqMZ4-00577-00144511-00144708 staff to assist him with his ex officio _lMoaKCqMZ4-00578-00144709-00145065 duties rule X Clause 11 motion to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00579-00145066-00145341 recommit with instructions under Rule 13 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00580-00145342-00145569 clause 6 the rules committee may not _lMoaKCqMZ4-00581-00145570-00145718 accept in certain specified _lMoaKCqMZ4-00582-00145719-00146061 circumstances issue a rule that prevents _lMoaKCqMZ4-00583-00146062-00146271 the minority leader or a designee from _lMoaKCqMZ4-00584-00146272-00146421 offering a motion to recommit with _lMoaKCqMZ4-00585-00146422-00146649 instructions _lMoaKCqMZ4-00586-00146650-00146868 in addition the minority leader has a _lMoaKCqMZ4-00587-00146869-00147071 number of other institutional functions _lMoaKCqMZ4-00588-00147072-00147329 for instance the Minority Leader is _lMoaKCqMZ4-00589-00147330-00147561 sometimes statutorily authorized to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00590-00147562-00147762 appoint individuals to certain federal _lMoaKCqMZ4-00591-00147763-00147953 entities he or she and the majority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00592-00147954-00148166 leader each named three members to serve _lMoaKCqMZ4-00593-00148167-00148395 as private calendar objectors he or she _lMoaKCqMZ4-00594-00148396-00148589 is consulted with respect to reconvening _lMoaKCqMZ4-00595-00148590-00148790 the house for the usual formulation of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00596-00148791-00148962 conditional concurrent adjournment _lMoaKCqMZ4-00597-00148963-00149175 resolutions he or she is a traditional _lMoaKCqMZ4-00598-00149176-00149315 member of the House Office Building _lMoaKCqMZ4-00599-00149316-00149520 Commission he or she is a member of the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00600-00149521-00149678 United States Capitol Preservation _lMoaKCqMZ4-00601-00149679-00149891 Commission and he or she may after _lMoaKCqMZ4-00602-00149892-00150102 consultation with the speaker convene an _lMoaKCqMZ4-00603-00150103-00150309 early organizational party caucus or _lMoaKCqMZ4-00604-00150310-00150582 conference informally the Minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00605-00150583-00150756 Leader maintains ties with majority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00606-00150757-00150921 party leaders to learn about the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00607-00150922-00151103 schedule and other house matters and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00608-00151104-00151316 forges agreements or understandings with _lMoaKCqMZ4-00609-00151317-00151935 them insofar as feasible _lMoaKCqMZ4-00610-00151936-00152461 topic party functions _lMoaKCqMZ4-00611-00152462-00152683 the Minority Leader has a number of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00612-00152684-00152826 formal and informal party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00613-00152827-00153121 responsibilities formerly the rules of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00614-00153122-00153331 each party specify certain roles and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00615-00153332-00153511 responsibilities for their leader _lMoaKCqMZ4-00616-00153512-00153801 for example under Democratic rules for _lMoaKCqMZ4-00617-00153802-00154026 the 106th Congress the Minority Leader _lMoaKCqMZ4-00618-00154027-00154215 may call meetings of the Democratic _lMoaKCqMZ4-00619-00154216-00154474 caucus he or she is a member of the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00620-00154475-00154609 Democratic Congressional Campaign _lMoaKCqMZ4-00621-00154610-00154813 Committee names the members of the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00622-00154814-00155028 Democratic Leadership Council chairs the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00623-00155029-00155316 policy committee and heads the steering _lMoaKCqMZ4-00624-00155317-00155589 committee examples of other assignments _lMoaKCqMZ4-00625-00155590-00155794 are making recommendations to the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00626-00155795-00156022 speaker on all Democratic members who _lMoaKCqMZ4-00627-00156023-00156346 shall serve as conferees and nominating _lMoaKCqMZ4-00628-00156347-00156513 party members to the committee's on _lMoaKCqMZ4-00629-00156514-00156826 rules in house administration Republican _lMoaKCqMZ4-00630-00156827-00157018 rules identified generally comparable _lMoaKCqMZ4-00631-00157019-00157281 functions for their top party leader _lMoaKCqMZ4-00632-00157282-00157513 informally the Minority Leader has a _lMoaKCqMZ4-00633-00157514-00157801 wide range of party assignments Lewis _lMoaKCqMZ4-00634-00157802-00157858 Deshler _lMoaKCqMZ4-00635-00157859-00158165 the late house parliamentarian 1928 to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00636-00158166-00158473 1974 summarized the diverse duties of a _lMoaKCqMZ4-00637-00158474-00158751 party's floor leader a party's floor _lMoaKCqMZ4-00638-00158752-00158962 leader in conjunction with other party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00639-00158963-00159177 leaders plays an influential role in the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00640-00159178-00159413 formulation of party policy and programs _lMoaKCqMZ4-00641-00159414-00159634 they are instrumental in guiding _lMoaKCqMZ4-00642-00159635-00159868 legislation favored by his party through _lMoaKCqMZ4-00643-00159869-00160077 the house or in resisting those programs _lMoaKCqMZ4-00644-00160078-00160246 of the other party that are considered _lMoaKCqMZ4-00645-00160247-00160432 undesirable by his own party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00646-00160433-00160681 they are instrumental in devising and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00647-00160682-00160876 implementing his party's strategy on the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00648-00160877-00161052 floor with respect to promoting or _lMoaKCqMZ4-00649-00161053-00161299 opposing legislation they are kept _lMoaKCqMZ4-00650-00161300-00161502 constantly informed as to the status of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00651-00161503-00161674 legislative business and as to the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00652-00161675-00161838 sentiment of his party respecting _lMoaKCqMZ4-00653-00161839-00161988 particular legislation under _lMoaKCqMZ4-00654-00161989-00162268 consideration such information is _lMoaKCqMZ4-00655-00162269-00162451 derived in part from the floor leaders _lMoaKCqMZ4-00656-00162452-00162627 contacts with his party's members _lMoaKCqMZ4-00657-00162628-00162804 serving on House committees and with the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00658-00162805-00163108 members of the party's whip organization _lMoaKCqMZ4-00659-00163109-00163288 these and several other party roles _lMoaKCqMZ4-00660-00163289-00163459 merit further mentioned because they _lMoaKCqMZ4-00661-00163460-00163626 influenced significantly the leaders _lMoaKCqMZ4-00662-00163627-00163861 overarching objective retake majority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00663-00163862-00164079 control of the house I want to get my _lMoaKCqMZ4-00664-00164080-00164437 members elected and win more seats said _lMoaKCqMZ4-00665-00164438-00164676 Minority Leader Richard Gephardt demo _lMoaKCqMZ4-00666-00164677-00164940 that's what my partisan colleagues want _lMoaKCqMZ4-00667-00164941-00165183 to do and that's what they want me to do _lMoaKCqMZ4-00668-00165184-00165453 five activities illustrate how minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00669-00165454-00165682 leaders seek to accomplish this primary _lMoaKCqMZ4-00670-00165683-00165794 goal _lMoaKCqMZ4-00671-00165795-00166067 provide campaign assistance minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00672-00166068-00166256 leaders are typically energetic and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00673-00166257-00166424 aggressive campaigners for partisan _lMoaKCqMZ4-00674-00166425-00166670 incumbents and challengers there is _lMoaKCqMZ4-00675-00166671-00166880 hardly any major aspect of campaigning _lMoaKCqMZ4-00676-00166881-00167066 that does not engage their attention _lMoaKCqMZ4-00677-00167067-00167324 for example they assist in recruiting _lMoaKCqMZ4-00678-00167325-00167528 qualified candidates they establish _lMoaKCqMZ4-00679-00167529-00167852 leadership PACs to raise and distribute _lMoaKCqMZ4-00680-00167853-00168059 funds to house candidates of their party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00681-00168060-00168260 they try to persuade partisan colleagues _lMoaKCqMZ4-00682-00168261-00168428 not to retire or run for other offices _lMoaKCqMZ4-00683-00168429-00168662 so as to hold down the number of open _lMoaKCqMZ4-00684-00168663-00168818 seats the party would need to defend _lMoaKCqMZ4-00685-00168819-00168971 they coordinate their campaign _lMoaKCqMZ4-00686-00168972-00169139 activities with congressional and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00687-00169140-00169349 national party campaign committees they _lMoaKCqMZ4-00688-00169350-00169532 encourage outside groups to back their _lMoaKCqMZ4-00689-00169533-00169694 candidates they travel around the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00690-00169695-00169874 country to speak on behalf of party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00691-00169875-00170054 candidates and they encourage incumbent _lMoaKCqMZ4-00692-00170055-00170243 colleagues to make significant financial _lMoaKCqMZ4-00693-00170244-00170426 contributions to the party's campaign _lMoaKCqMZ4-00694-00170427-00170621 committee the amount of time that _lMoaKCqMZ4-00695-00170622-00170888 Minority Leader Gephardt is putting in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00696-00170889-00171128 to help the DCCC Democratic _lMoaKCqMZ4-00697-00171129-00171317 Congressional Campaign Committee is _lMoaKCqMZ4-00698-00171318-00171659 unheard of noted a Democratic lobbyist _lMoaKCqMZ4-00699-00171660-00172004 no DCCC chairman has ever had that kind _lMoaKCqMZ4-00700-00172005-00172319 of support devise minority party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00701-00172320-00172535 strategies the Minority Leader in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00702-00172536-00172733 consultation with other party colleagues _lMoaKCqMZ4-00703-00172734-00172979 has a range of strategic options that he _lMoaKCqMZ4-00704-00172980-00173177 or she can employ to advance minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00705-00173178-00173420 party objectives the option selected _lMoaKCqMZ4-00706-00173421-00173597 depend on the wide range of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00707-00173598-00173831 circumstances such as the visibility or _lMoaKCqMZ4-00708-00173832-00174017 significance of the issue and the degree _lMoaKCqMZ4-00709-00174018-00174206 of cohesion within the majority party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00710-00174207-00174515 for instance a majority party driven by _lMoaKCqMZ4-00711-00174516-00174698 internal dissension has occurred during _lMoaKCqMZ4-00712-00174699-00174926 the early 1900s when progressive in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00713-00174927-00175190 regular Republicans were at loggerheads _lMoaKCqMZ4-00714-00175191-00175412 may provide the Minority Leader with _lMoaKCqMZ4-00715-00175413-00175592 greater opportunities to achieve their _lMoaKCqMZ4-00716-00175593-00175784 priorities than if the majority party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00717-00175785-00176003 exhibited high degrees of party cohesion _lMoaKCqMZ4-00718-00176004-00176240 among the variable strategies available _lMoaKCqMZ4-00719-00176241-00176468 to the minority party which can vary _lMoaKCqMZ4-00720-00176469-00176633 from bill to bill and be used in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00721-00176634-00176834 combination or at different stages of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00722-00176835-00177115 the lawmaking process are the following _lMoaKCqMZ4-00723-00177116-00177455 cooperation the minority party supports _lMoaKCqMZ4-00724-00177456-00177653 and cooperates with the majority party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00725-00177654-00177818 in building winning coalition's on the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00726-00177819-00178154 floor inconsequential opposition the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00727-00178155-00178391 minority party offers opposition but it _lMoaKCqMZ4-00728-00178392-00178595 is of marginal significance typically _lMoaKCqMZ4-00729-00178596-00178832 because the minority is so small _lMoaKCqMZ4-00730-00178833-00179120 withdrawl the minority party chooses not _lMoaKCqMZ4-00731-00179121-00179306 to take a position on an issue perhaps _lMoaKCqMZ4-00732-00179307-00179557 because of intra-party divisions _lMoaKCqMZ4-00733-00179558-00179840 innovation the minority party develops _lMoaKCqMZ4-00734-00179841-00180050 alternatives and agendas of its own and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00735-00180051-00180245 attempts to construct winning coalitions _lMoaKCqMZ4-00736-00180246-00180563 on their behalf partisan opposition the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00737-00180564-00180803 minority party offers strong opposition _lMoaKCqMZ4-00738-00180804-00181004 to majority party initiatives but does _lMoaKCqMZ4-00739-00181005-00181211 not counter with policy alternatives of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00740-00181212-00181514 their own constructive opposition the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00741-00181515-00181736 minority party opposes initiatives of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00742-00181737-00181913 the majority party and offers its own _lMoaKCqMZ4-00743-00181914-00182261 proposals as substitutes participation _lMoaKCqMZ4-00744-00182262-00182486 the minority party is in the position of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00745-00182487-00182642 having to consider the views and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00746-00182643-00182810 proposals of their president and to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00747-00182811-00182999 assess their majority building role with _lMoaKCqMZ4-00748-00183000-00183224 respect to his priorities a look at one _lMoaKCqMZ4-00749-00183225-00183491 minority leadership strategy partisan _lMoaKCqMZ4-00750-00183492-00183722 opposition may suggest why it might be _lMoaKCqMZ4-00751-00183723-00184013 employed in specific circumstances the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00752-00184014-00184235 purposes of obstruction are several such _lMoaKCqMZ4-00753-00184236-00184421 as frustrating the majority party's _lMoaKCqMZ4-00754-00184422-00184625 ability to govern or attracting press _lMoaKCqMZ4-00755-00184626-00184796 and media attention to the alleged _lMoaKCqMZ4-00756-00184797-00185033 ineffectiveness of the majority party we _lMoaKCqMZ4-00757-00185034-00185309 know how to delay remarked Minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00758-00185310-00185516 Leader Gephardt dilatory motions to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00759-00185517-00185672 adjourn appeals of the presiding _lMoaKCqMZ4-00760-00185673-00185915 officers ruling or numerous requests for _lMoaKCqMZ4-00761-00185916-00186062 roll call votes are standard _lMoaKCqMZ4-00762-00186063-00186353 time-consuming parliamentary tactics by _lMoaKCqMZ4-00763-00186354-00186551 stalling action on the majority party's _lMoaKCqMZ4-00764-00186552-00186755 agenda the Minority Leader may be able _lMoaKCqMZ4-00765-00186756-00186911 to launch a campaign against a _lMoaKCqMZ4-00766-00186912-00187211 do-nothing Congress and convince enough _lMoaKCqMZ4-00767-00187212-00187409 voters to put his party back in charge _lMoaKCqMZ4-00768-00187410-00187694 of the house to be sure the Minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00769-00187695-00187927 Leader recognizes that going negative _lMoaKCqMZ4-00770-00187928-00188165 carries risks and may not be a winning _lMoaKCqMZ4-00771-00188166-00188351 strategy of his party fails to offer _lMoaKCqMZ4-00772-00188352-00188597 policy alternatives that appeal to broad _lMoaKCqMZ4-00773-00188598-00188903 segments of the general public promote _lMoaKCqMZ4-00774-00188904-00189107 and publicized the party's agenda an _lMoaKCqMZ4-00775-00189108-00189338 important name of the Minority Leader is _lMoaKCqMZ4-00776-00189339-00189518 to develop an electoral II attractive _lMoaKCqMZ4-00777-00189519-00189725 agenda of ideas and proposals that _lMoaKCqMZ4-00778-00189726-00189899 unites their own House members and that _lMoaKCqMZ4-00779-00189900-00190136 energizes and appeals to core electoral _lMoaKCqMZ4-00780-00190137-00190331 supporters as well as independents and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00781-00190332-00190592 swing voters despite the minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00782-00190593-00190781 leaders restricted ability to set the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00783-00190782-00190934 houses agenda there are still _lMoaKCqMZ4-00784-00190935-00191144 opportunities for him to raise minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00785-00191145-00191435 priorities for example the Minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00786-00191436-00191618 Leader may employ or threaten to use _lMoaKCqMZ4-00787-00191619-00191861 discharge petitions to try and bring _lMoaKCqMZ4-00788-00191862-00192143 minority priorities to the floor if he _lMoaKCqMZ4-00789-00192144-00192221 or she is able _lMoaKCqMZ4-00790-00192222-00192446 to attract the required 218 signatures _lMoaKCqMZ4-00791-00192447-00192679 on a discharge petition by attracting _lMoaKCqMZ4-00792-00192680-00192923 majority party supporters he or she can _lMoaKCqMZ4-00793-00192924-00193114 force minority initiatives to the floor _lMoaKCqMZ4-00794-00193115-00193271 over the opposition of the majority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00795-00193272-00193631 leadership as a GOP minority leader once _lMoaKCqMZ4-00796-00193632-00193856 said the challenges he confronted are to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00797-00193857-00194120 keep our people together and to look for _lMoaKCqMZ4-00798-00194121-00194440 votes on the other side minority leaders _lMoaKCqMZ4-00799-00194441-00194645 may engage in numerous activities to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00800-00194646-00194852 publicize their party's priorities and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00801-00194853-00195098 to criticize the opposition's for _lMoaKCqMZ4-00802-00195099-00195257 instance to keep their party colleagues _lMoaKCqMZ4-00803-00195258-00195577 on message they ensure that partisan _lMoaKCqMZ4-00804-00195578-00195778 colleagues are sent packets of suggested _lMoaKCqMZ4-00805-00195779-00196082 press releases or talking points for _lMoaKCqMZ4-00806-00196083-00196268 constituent meetings in their districts _lMoaKCqMZ4-00807-00196269-00196526 they help to organize town meetings in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00808-00196527-00196765 members districts around the country to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00809-00196766-00196958 publicize the party's agenda or a _lMoaKCqMZ4-00810-00196959-00197207 specific priority such as health care or _lMoaKCqMZ4-00811-00197208-00197549 education they sponsor party retreats to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00812-00197550-00197756 discuss issues and assess the party's _lMoaKCqMZ4-00813-00197757-00198089 public image they create themed teams to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00814-00198090-00198269 craft party messages that might be _lMoaKCqMZ4-00815-00198270-00198443 raised during the one-minute morning _lMoaKCqMZ4-00816-00198444-00198650 hour or special order period in the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00817-00198651-00198841 house they conduct surveys of party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00818-00198842-00199007 colleagues to discern their policy _lMoaKCqMZ4-00819-00199008-00199235 preferences they establish websites that _lMoaKCqMZ4-00820-00199236-00199436 highlight and distribute party images _lMoaKCqMZ4-00821-00199437-00199625 and issues to users and they organize _lMoaKCqMZ4-00822-00199626-00199871 task forces or issued teams to formulate _lMoaKCqMZ4-00823-00199872-00200096 party programs and to develop strategies _lMoaKCqMZ4-00824-00200097-00200290 for communicating these programs to the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00825-00200291-00200627 public house minority leaders also hold _lMoaKCqMZ4-00826-00200628-00200843 joint news conferences and consult with _lMoaKCqMZ4-00827-00200844-00201004 their counterparts in the Senate and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00828-00201005-00201190 with the president if their party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00829-00201191-00201439 controls the White House the overall _lMoaKCqMZ4-00830-00201440-00201631 objectives are to develop a coordinated _lMoaKCqMZ4-00831-00201632-00201857 communication strategy to share ideas _lMoaKCqMZ4-00832-00201858-00202082 and information and to present a united _lMoaKCqMZ4-00833-00202083-00202409 front on issues minority leaders also _lMoaKCqMZ4-00834-00202410-00202610 make floor speeches and close debate on _lMoaKCqMZ4-00835-00202611-00202811 major issues before the house they _lMoaKCqMZ4-00836-00202812-00203012 deliver addresses in diverse forums _lMoaKCqMZ4-00837-00203013-00203191 across the country and they write books _lMoaKCqMZ4-00838-00203192-00203375 or articles that highlight minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00839-00203376-00203629 party goals and achievements they must _lMoaKCqMZ4-00840-00203630-00203882 also be prepared to debate on the floor _lMoaKCqMZ4-00841-00203883-00204216 ad-lib no notes on the moment's notice _lMoaKCqMZ4-00842-00204217-00204473 remarked Minority Leader Michelle in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00843-00204474-00204553 brief _lMoaKCqMZ4-00844-00204554-00204770 minority leaders are key strategists in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00845-00204771-00204940 developing and promoting the party's _lMoaKCqMZ4-00846-00204941-00205111 agenda and in outlining ways to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00847-00205112-00205277 neutralize the opposition's arguments _lMoaKCqMZ4-00848-00205278-00205434 and proposals _lMoaKCqMZ4-00849-00205435-00205683 confer with the White House if their _lMoaKCqMZ4-00850-00205684-00205863 party controls the White House the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00851-00205864-00206076 Minority Leader confers regularly with _lMoaKCqMZ4-00852-00206077-00206265 the president and his aides about issues _lMoaKCqMZ4-00853-00206266-00206460 before Congress the administration's _lMoaKCqMZ4-00854-00206461-00206735 agenda and political events generally _lMoaKCqMZ4-00855-00206736-00206961 strategically the role of the Minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00856-00206962-00207123 Leader will vary depending on whether _lMoaKCqMZ4-00857-00207123-00207312 the president is of the same party or _lMoaKCqMZ4-00858-00207313-00207591 the other party in general minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00859-00207592-00207771 leaders will often work to advance the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00860-00207771-00207951 goals and aspirations of their party's _lMoaKCqMZ4-00861-00207952-00208209 president in Congress when Robert _lMoaKCqMZ4-00862-00208210-00208448 Michelle are ill was Minority Leader _lMoaKCqMZ4-00863-00208448-00208815 1981 to 1995 he typically functioned as _lMoaKCqMZ4-00864-00208816-00209123 that point man for Republican presidents _lMoaKCqMZ4-00865-00209125-00209448 President Ronald Reagan's 1981 policy _lMoaKCqMZ4-00866-00209448-00209619 successes in the Democratic controlled _lMoaKCqMZ4-00867-00209619-00209832 house was due in no small measure to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00868-00209833-00210039 Minority Leader Michelle's effectiveness _lMoaKCqMZ4-00869-00210040-00210360 in wooing so-called Reagan Democrats to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00870-00210361-00210494 support for instance the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00871-00210496-00210681 administration's landmark budget _lMoaKCqMZ4-00872-00210682-00210960 reconciliation bill there are occasions _lMoaKCqMZ4-00873-00210961-00211161 of course when minority leaders will _lMoaKCqMZ4-00874-00211162-00211329 fault the legislative initiatives of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00875-00211330-00211571 their president on an administration _lMoaKCqMZ4-00876-00211573-00211769 proposal that could adversely affect his _lMoaKCqMZ4-00877-00211771-00211956 district Michelle stated that he might _lMoaKCqMZ4-00878-00211957-00212208 abdicate my leadership role on this _lMoaKCqMZ4-00879-00212209-00212427 issue since I can't harmonize my own _lMoaKCqMZ4-00880-00212428-00212769 views with the administration's Minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00881-00212769-00212994 Leader Gephardt as another example has _lMoaKCqMZ4-00882-00212994-00213201 publicly opposed a number of President _lMoaKCqMZ4-00883-00213202-00213401 Clinton's legislative initiatives from _lMoaKCqMZ4-00884-00213402-00213702 fast-track trade Authority to various _lMoaKCqMZ4-00885-00213703-00213888 budget issues when the White House is _lMoaKCqMZ4-00886-00213889-00214080 controlled by the House majority party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00887-00214081-00214290 then the House Minority Leader assumes a _lMoaKCqMZ4-00888-00214291-00214503 larger role in formulating alternatives _lMoaKCqMZ4-00889-00214504-00214710 to executive branch initiatives and in _lMoaKCqMZ4-00890-00214711-00214902 acting as a national spokesperson for _lMoaKCqMZ4-00891-00214903-00215139 their party as Minority Leader during _lMoaKCqMZ4-00892-00215140-00215382 President Lyndon Johnson's Democratic _lMoaKCqMZ4-00893-00215383-00215642 administration my responsibility has _lMoaKCqMZ4-00894-00215644-00215917 been to propose Republican alternatives _lMoaKCqMZ4-00895-00215919-00216248 said Minority Leader Gerald Ford army _lMoaKCqMZ4-00896-00216248-00216444 greatly outnumbered in the House _lMoaKCqMZ4-00897-00216444-00216705 Minority Leader Ford devised a political _lMoaKCqMZ4-00898-00216706-00216896 strategy that allowed Republicans to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00899-00216898-00217059 offer their alternatives in a manner _lMoaKCqMZ4-00900-00217060-00217215 that provided them political protection _lMoaKCqMZ4-00901-00217216-00217656 as Ford explained we used a technique of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00902-00217657-00217921 laying our program out in general debate _lMoaKCqMZ4-00903-00217923-00218205 he said when we got to the amendment _lMoaKCqMZ4-00904-00218206-00218391 phase we would offer our program as a _lMoaKCqMZ4-00905-00218392-00218616 substitute for the Johnson proposal if _lMoaKCqMZ4-00906-00218617-00218819 we lost in the committee of the whole _lMoaKCqMZ4-00907-00218821-00218996 then we would usually offer it as a _lMoaKCqMZ4-00908-00218998-00219162 motion to recommit and get a vote on _lMoaKCqMZ4-00909-00219163-00219410 that and if we lost on the motion to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00910-00219411-00219465 recommit _lMoaKCqMZ4-00911-00219466-00219678 our Republican members had a choice they _lMoaKCqMZ4-00912-00219679-00219846 could vote against the Johnson program _lMoaKCqMZ4-00913-00219846-00220026 and say we did our best to come up with _lMoaKCqMZ4-00914-00220027-00220254 a better alternative or they could vote _lMoaKCqMZ4-00915-00220255-00220421 for it and make the same argument _lMoaKCqMZ4-00916-00220423-00220748 usually we lost but when you're only 140 _lMoaKCqMZ4-00917-00220750-00221028 out of 435 you don't expect to win many _lMoaKCqMZ4-00918-00221029-00221258 ford also teamed with Senate Minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00919-00221259-00221492 Leader Everett Dirksen our ill to act as _lMoaKCqMZ4-00920-00221494-00221757 national spokesman for their party they _lMoaKCqMZ4-00921-00221758-00221916 met with the press every Thursday _lMoaKCqMZ4-00922-00221917-00222069 following the weekly joint leadership _lMoaKCqMZ4-00923-00222069-00222378 meeting Ford's predecessor as Minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-00924-00222379-00222596 Leader Charles Halleck are in probably _lMoaKCqMZ4-00925-00222598-00222819 received more visibility in this role _lMoaKCqMZ4-00926-00222819-00222998 because the press and media dubbed it _lMoaKCqMZ4-00927-00223000-00223325 the Evan Charlie show in fact the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00928-00223326-00223592 Republican National Committee budgeted _lMoaKCqMZ4-00929-00223594-00223857 30,000 dollars annually to produce the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00930-00223858-00224187 weekly news conference foster party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00931-00224188-00224444 harmony minority status by itself is _lMoaKCqMZ4-00932-00224446-00224628 often an important inducement for _lMoaKCqMZ4-00933-00224629-00224819 minority party members to stay together _lMoaKCqMZ4-00934-00224821-00225008 to accommodate different interests and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00935-00225009-00225192 to submerge intra-party factional _lMoaKCqMZ4-00936-00225192-00225423 disagreements to hold a diverse _lMoaKCqMZ4-00937-00225423-00225606 membership together often requires _lMoaKCqMZ4-00938-00225607-00225792 extensive consultations and discussions _lMoaKCqMZ4-00939-00225792-00226014 with rank-and-file members and with _lMoaKCqMZ4-00940-00226015-00226205 different factional groupings as _lMoaKCqMZ4-00941-00226206-00226554 Minority Leader Gephardt said we have _lMoaKCqMZ4-00942-00226555-00226796 weekly caucus meetings we have daily _lMoaKCqMZ4-00943-00226798-00226985 leadership meetings we have weekly _lMoaKCqMZ4-00944-00226986-00227219 ranking member meetings we have party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00945-00227221-00227417 effectiveness meetings there's a lot _lMoaKCqMZ4-00946-00227419-00227660 more communication I believe leadership _lMoaKCqMZ4-00947-00227661-00227898 is bottom up not top down I think you _lMoaKCqMZ4-00948-00227898-00228092 have to build policy and strategy and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00949-00228094-00228276 vision from the bottom up and involve _lMoaKCqMZ4-00950-00228277-00228444 people in figuring out what that as _lMoaKCqMZ4-00951-00228444-00228671 Gephardt added that inclusion and _lMoaKCqMZ4-00952-00228673-00228855 empowerment of the people on the line _lMoaKCqMZ4-00953-00228856-00229007 have to be done to get the best _lMoaKCqMZ4-00954-00229008-00229319 performance from the minority party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00955-00229321-00229542 other techniques for fostering party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00956-00229542-00229733 harmony include the appointment of task _lMoaKCqMZ4-00957-00229734-00229958 forces composed of partisan colleagues _lMoaKCqMZ4-00958-00229959-00230100 with conflicting views to reach _lMoaKCqMZ4-00959-00230101-00230342 consensus on issues the creation of new _lMoaKCqMZ4-00960-00230344-00230532 leadership positions as a way to reach _lMoaKCqMZ4-00961-00230533-00230730 out and involve a greater diversity of _lMoaKCqMZ4-00962-00230731-00230898 partisans in the leadership structure _lMoaKCqMZ4-00963-00230898-00231107 and daily meetings in the leaders office _lMoaKCqMZ4-00964-00231108-00231339 or at breakfast lunch or dinner to lay _lMoaKCqMZ4-00965-00231340-00231521 out floor strategy or political _lMoaKCqMZ4-00966-00231523-00232309 objectives for the minority party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00967-00232310-00232619 topic party whips and assistant party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00968-00232619-00233021 leaders _lMoaKCqMZ4-00969-00233023-00233305 topic whips a whip manages their party's _lMoaKCqMZ4-00970-00233306-00233498 legislative program on the House floor _lMoaKCqMZ4-00971-00233500-00233796 the whip keeps track of all legislation _lMoaKCqMZ4-00972-00233798-00233967 and ensures that all party members are _lMoaKCqMZ4-00973-00233969-00234154 present when important measures are to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00974-00234155-00234436 be voted upon the Majority Whip as an _lMoaKCqMZ4-00975-00234437-00234642 elected member of the majority party who _lMoaKCqMZ4-00976-00234644-00234826 assists the Speaker of the House and the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00977-00234827-00235054 majority leader to coordinate ideas on _lMoaKCqMZ4-00978-00235055-00235221 and garner support for proposed _lMoaKCqMZ4-00979-00235223-00235492 legislation the Minority Whip as a _lMoaKCqMZ4-00980-00235492-00235702 member of the minority party who assists _lMoaKCqMZ4-00981-00235703-00235903 the minority leader in coordinating the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00982-00235904-00236089 party caucus in its responses to _lMoaKCqMZ4-00983-00236090-00236332 legislation and other matters however _lMoaKCqMZ4-00984-00236333-00236590 the US House of Representatives does not _lMoaKCqMZ4-00985-00236591-00236803 use the term Minority Whip instead _lMoaKCqMZ4-00986-00236804-00237016 calling the position republican whip or _lMoaKCqMZ4-00987-00237017-00237184 Democratic whip depending on the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00988-00237185-00237481 minority party the chief deputy whip as _lMoaKCqMZ4-00989-00237482-00237682 the primary assistant to the whip who is _lMoaKCqMZ4-00990-00237683-00237853 the chief vote counter for their party _lMoaKCqMZ4-00991-00237854-00238114 the current chief deputy Majority Whip _lMoaKCqMZ4-00992-00238115-00238402 is Republican Patrick McHenry within the _lMoaKCqMZ4-00993-00238403-00238600 House Republican Conference the chief _lMoaKCqMZ4-00994-00238601-00238789 deputy whip as the highest appointed _lMoaKCqMZ4-00995-00238790-00238984 position and often a launching pad for _lMoaKCqMZ4-00996-00238985-00239166 future positions in the House leadership _lMoaKCqMZ4-00997-00239167-00239446 the House Democratic conference has _lMoaKCqMZ4-00998-00239446-00239656 multiple chief deputy whips led by a _lMoaKCqMZ4-00999-00239657-00239857 senior chief deputy whip which is the _lMoaKCqMZ4-01000-00239858-00240028 highest appointed position within the _lMoaKCqMZ4-01001-00240029-00240301 House Democratic caucus the current _lMoaKCqMZ4-01002-00240302-00240532 senior chief deputy Minority Whip John _lMoaKCqMZ4-01003-00240533-00240821 Lewis has held his post since 1991 _lMoaKCqMZ4-01004-00240823-00241258 between 1955 and 1973 the Democrats _lMoaKCqMZ4-01005-00241259-00241561 simply had the title deputy whip list of _lMoaKCqMZ4-01006-00241562-00241794 Republican chief deputy whips David F _lMoaKCqMZ4-01007-00241796-00242241 Emery 1981 to 1983 minority Tom Lafleur _lMoaKCqMZ4-01008-00242242-00242676 1983 to 1987 minority Edward rel Madigan _lMoaKCqMZ4-01009-00242677-00243037 1987 to 1989 minority Robert Smith _lMoaKCqMZ4-01010-00243038-00243430 Walker 1989 to 1995 minority Dennis _lMoaKCqMZ4-01011-00243431-00243864 Hastert 1995 to 1999 majority Roy Blount _lMoaKCqMZ4-01012-00243865-00244330 1999 to 2003 Majority Eric Cantor 2003 _lMoaKCqMZ4-01013-00244331-00244806 to 2009 majority 2003 to 2007 minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-01014-00244807-00245266 2007 to 2009 Kevin McCarthy 2009 to 2011 _lMoaKCqMZ4-01015-00245267-00245601 minority Peter Roskam 2011 to 2014 _lMoaKCqMZ4-01016-00245602-00245967 Majority Patrick McHenry 2014 to 2019 _lMoaKCqMZ4-01017-00245967-00246319 Majority drew Ferguson 2019 minority _lMoaKCqMZ4-01018-00246319-00246369 list _lMoaKCqMZ4-01019-00246371-00246700 Democratic chief deputy whips 1955 to _lMoaKCqMZ4-01020-00246701-00247317 1962 Hale Boggs 1962 to 1971 1971 to _lMoaKCqMZ4-01021-00247319-00247792 1973 John Brad Amma's John J McFaul 1973 _lMoaKCqMZ4-01022-00247792-00248280 to 1977 John Brad Amma's 1977 to 1981 _lMoaKCqMZ4-01023-00248281-00248704 Dan Rostenkowski 1981 to 1987 bill _lMoaKCqMZ4-01024-00248705-00249217 Alexander 1987 to 1991 David Bonior 1991 _lMoaKCqMZ4-01025-00249217-00249541 to 1993 Barbara Kennelly Butler Derek _lMoaKCqMZ4-01026-00249542-00249930 and John Lewis 1993 to 1995 Barbara _lMoaKCqMZ4-01027-00249931-00250171 Kennelly Butler Derek John Lewis and _lMoaKCqMZ4-01028-00250171-00250546 Bill Richardson 1995 to 1997 rosa _lMoaKCqMZ4-01029-00250546-00250835 DeLauro John Lewis and Bill Richardson _lMoaKCqMZ4-01030-00250836-00251212 1997 to 1999 rosa DeLauro Chet Edwards _lMoaKCqMZ4-01031-00251213-00251602 John Lewis and Robert Menendez 1999 to _lMoaKCqMZ4-01032-00251603-00251953 2002 Chet Edwards John Lewis Edie pastor _lMoaKCqMZ4-01033-00251954-00252298 and Maxine Waters 2000 to 2003 John _lMoaKCqMZ4-01034-00252298-00252589 Lewis Edie pastor max Sandlin and Maxine _lMoaKCqMZ4-01035-00252590-00252984 Waters 2003 to 2005 John Lewis senior _lMoaKCqMZ4-01036-00252985-00253248 chief deputy whip Joe Crowley Baron Hill _lMoaKCqMZ4-01037-00253250-00253554 Ron kind ed pastor max Sandlin jan _lMoaKCqMZ4-01038-00253555-00253873 Schakowsky and maxine waters 2005 to _lMoaKCqMZ4-01039-00253873-00254188 2007 John Lewis senior chief deputy whip _lMoaKCqMZ4-01040-00254189-00254484 Joe Crowley Diana DeGette Ron kind ed _lMoaKCqMZ4-01041-00254485-00254769 pastor jan Schakowsky John Tanner and _lMoaKCqMZ4-01042-00254771-00255144 Maxine Waters 2007 to 2011 John Lewis _lMoaKCqMZ4-01043-00255146-00255510 senior chief deputy whip GK Butterfield _lMoaKCqMZ4-01044-00255511-00255823 Joe Crowley Diana DeGette ed pastor jan _lMoaKCqMZ4-01045-00255823-00256021 Schakowsky John Tanner Debbie _lMoaKCqMZ4-01046-00256021-00256123 wasserman-schultz _lMoaKCqMZ4-01047-00256123-00256453 and Maxine Waters 2011 to 2013 John _lMoaKCqMZ4-01048-00256454-00256723 Lewis senior chief deputy whip Maxine _lMoaKCqMZ4-01049-00256723-00256975 Waters Eadie pastor jan Schakowsky _lMoaKCqMZ4-01050-00256976-00257176 joseph crowley diana degette _lMoaKCqMZ4-01051-00257177-00257452 gk Butterfield Debbie wasserman-schultz _lMoaKCqMZ4-01052-00257453-00257752 Jim Matheson and Peter Welch 2013 to _lMoaKCqMZ4-01053-00257753-00258052 2015 John Lewis senior chief deputy whip _lMoaKCqMZ4-01054-00258053-00258294 Ben ray Lujan Terri Sewell jan _lMoaKCqMZ4-01055-00258296-00258546 Schakowsky keith ellison diana degette _lMoaKCqMZ4-01056-00258548-00258798 gk Butterfield Debbie wasserman-schultz _lMoaKCqMZ4-01057-00258800-00259090 Jim Matheson and Peter Welch 2015 _lMoaKCqMZ4-01058-00259091-00259351 present John Lewis senior chief deputy _lMoaKCqMZ4-01059-00259352-00259573 whip jan Schakowsky diana degette _lMoaKCqMZ4-01060-00259573-00259694 gk _lMoaKCqMZ4-01061-00259696-00259956 butterfield Debbie wasserman-schultz _lMoaKCqMZ4-01062-00259957-00260169 keith Ellison Terri Sewell Kyrsten _lMoaKCqMZ4-01063-00260171-00260780 Sinema Joaquin Castro and Peter Welch _lMoaKCqMZ4-01064-00260781-00261352 topic assistant party leaders _lMoaKCqMZ4-01065-00261353-00261544 the position of assistant Democratic _lMoaKCqMZ4-01066-00261545-00261808 leader was established on January 3rd _lMoaKCqMZ4-01067-00261809-00262066 2011 and filled by Jim Clyburn to avoid _lMoaKCqMZ4-01068-00262067-00262270 a battle for whip between then Majority _lMoaKCqMZ4-01069-00262271-00262468 Leader Steny Hoyer and then Majority _lMoaKCqMZ4-01070-00262469-00262735 Whip Jim Clyburn it is said to replace _lMoaKCqMZ4-01071-00262736-00262888 the assistant to the leader post _lMoaKCqMZ4-01072-00262889-00263113 previously held by chris van hollen _lMoaKCqMZ4-01073-00263114-00263290 who had attended all leadership meetings _lMoaKCqMZ4-01074-00263291-00263481 but was not in the leadership hierarchy _lMoaKCqMZ4-01075-00263482-00263722 there is currently no Republican _lMoaKCqMZ4-01076-00263723-00264247 equivalent _lMoaKCqMZ4-01077-00264248-00264902 topic list of party leaders and whips _lMoaKCqMZ4-01078-00264903-00265124 and names in bold indicate the House _lMoaKCqMZ4-01079-00265125-00265854 Majority Leader and House Majority Whip _lMoaKCqMZ4-01080-00265855-00266376 topic see also _lMoaKCqMZ4-01081-00266377-00266604 party leaders of the United States _lMoaKCqMZ4-01082-00266605-00266889 Senate presidents of the United States _lMoaKCqMZ4-01083-00266890-00267219 and control of Congress _mCj6rIXEYo-00000-00000104-00000438 surya sen bengali suryasena sir joe sen _mCj6rIXEYo-00001-00000440-00000743 22nd of march 1894 to the 12th of _mCj6rIXEYo-00002-00000744-00001070 january 1934 was a revolutionary who was _mCj6rIXEYo-00003-00001071-00001262 influential in the indian independence _mCj6rIXEYo-00004-00001263-00001462 movement against british rule and who is _mCj6rIXEYo-00005-00001463-00001687 noted for leading the 1930 chittagong _mCj6rIXEYo-00006-00001688-00001910 armory raid in chittagong of bengal in _mCj6rIXEYo-00007-00001911-00002167 british india now in bangladesh _mCj6rIXEYo-00008-00002168-00002375 sen was a school teacher by profession _mCj6rIXEYo-00009-00002376-00002695 and was popularly called as master da da _mCj6rIXEYo-00010-00002696-00002895 is a honorific suffix in bengali _mCj6rIXEYo-00011-00002896-00003102 language he was influenced by the _mCj6rIXEYo-00012-00003103-00003383 nationalist ideals in 1916 while he was _mCj6rIXEYo-00013-00003384-00003686 a student of ba in bharampur college _mCj6rIXEYo-00014-00003688-00003975 in 1918 he was selected as president of _mCj6rIXEYo-00015-00003976-00004175 indian national congress chittagong _mCj6rIXEYo-00016-00004176-00004286 branch _mCj6rIXEYo-00017-00004287-00004479 he was known for his brilliant actions _mCj6rIXEYo-00018-00004480-00004679 and effort in indian history by taking _mCj6rIXEYo-00019-00004680-00004854 young teenagers and turning them into _mCj6rIXEYo-00020-00004855-00005031 revolutionaries against the british _mCj6rIXEYo-00021-00005032-00005215 stationed in chittagong with this bold _mCj6rIXEYo-00022-00005216-00005406 step of recruiting in teenagers then _mCj6rIXEYo-00023-00005407-00005583 fought against the british cantonment _mCj6rIXEYo-00024-00005584-00005727 and in the mountainous regions of _mCj6rIXEYo-00025-00005728-00005959 chittagong like jalalabad hills but then _mCj6rIXEYo-00026-00005960-00006134 separated and went their separate ways _mCj6rIXEYo-00027-00006135-00006295 still trying to get the british out of _mCj6rIXEYo-00028-00006296-00006470 chittagong various attempts were _mCj6rIXEYo-00029-00006472-00006655 successful in the beginning but many _mCj6rIXEYo-00030-00006656-00006855 failed as well and many revolutionaries _mCj6rIXEYo-00031-00006856-00007639 were arrested which broke movement _mCj6rIXEYo-00032-00007640-00008095 early life _mCj6rIXEYo-00033-00008095-00008423 sen was born on the 22nd of march 1894 _mCj6rIXEYo-00034-00008424-00008695 in abedia family at noapara under rausan _mCj6rIXEYo-00035-00008696-00008895 upazila in chittagong _mCj6rIXEYo-00036-00008896-00009103 his father ramanaran hansen was a _mCj6rIXEYo-00037-00009104-00009439 teacher in 1916 when he was a ba student _mCj6rIXEYo-00038-00009440-00009631 in burmpure college he learned about _mCj6rIXEYo-00039-00009632-00009806 indian freedom movement from one of his _mCj6rIXEYo-00040-00009807-00009927 teachers _mCj6rIXEYo-00041-00009928-00010151 he felt attracted towards revolutionary _mCj6rIXEYo-00042-00010152-00010342 ideals and joined a revolutionary _mCj6rIXEYo-00043-00010343-00010614 organization in nushilon samiti _mCj6rIXEYo-00044-00010615-00010814 after completing his studies he returned _mCj6rIXEYo-00045-00010815-00011071 to chittagong in 1918 and joined as a _mCj6rIXEYo-00046-00011072-00011295 mathematics teacher at national school _mCj6rIXEYo-00047-00011296-00011438 nandankanan _mCj6rIXEYo-00048-00011439-00011655 at that time indian national congress _mCj6rIXEYo-00049-00011656-00011846 was the most prominent political party _mCj6rIXEYo-00050-00011847-00012495 there _mCj6rIXEYo-00051-00012496-00013015 chittagong armory raid _mCj6rIXEYo-00052-00013016-00013215 sen led a group of revolutionaries on _mCj6rIXEYo-00053-00013216-00013447 the 18th of april 1930 to raid the _mCj6rIXEYo-00054-00013447-00013679 armory of police and auxiliary forces _mCj6rIXEYo-00055-00013680-00013879 from the chittagong armory _mCj6rIXEYo-00056-00013880-00014071 the plan was elaborate and included _mCj6rIXEYo-00057-00014072-00014263 seizing of arms from the armory as well _mCj6rIXEYo-00058-00014263-00014479 as destruction of communication system _mCj6rIXEYo-00059-00014480-00014663 of the city including telephone _mCj6rIXEYo-00060-00014663-00014894 telegraph and railway thereby isolating _mCj6rIXEYo-00061-00014895-00015063 chittagong from the rest of british _mCj6rIXEYo-00062-00015063-00015175 india _mCj6rIXEYo-00063-00015176-00015343 however although the group could loot _mCj6rIXEYo-00064-00015344-00015479 the arms they failed to get the _mCj6rIXEYo-00065-00015480-00015719 ammunition they hoisted the indian _mCj6rIXEYo-00066-00015719-00015894 national flag on the premises of the _mCj6rIXEYo-00067-00015895-00016103 armory and then escaped _mCj6rIXEYo-00068-00016104-00016327 a few days later a large fraction of the _mCj6rIXEYo-00069-00016328-00016519 revolutionary group was cornered in the _mCj6rIXEYo-00070-00016520-00016735 nearby jalalabad hills by the british _mCj6rIXEYo-00071-00016736-00016847 troops _mCj6rIXEYo-00072-00016848-00017086 in the ensuing fight 12 revolutionaries _mCj6rIXEYo-00073-00017087-00017263 died many were arrested while some _mCj6rIXEYo-00074-00017264-00017983 managed to flee including sen _mCj6rIXEYo-00075-00017984-00018535 topic arrest and death _mCj6rIXEYo-00076-00018536-00018735 sen stayed in hiding and kept moving _mCj6rIXEYo-00077-00018736-00018943 from one place to another _mCj6rIXEYo-00078-00018944-00019175 sometimes he took up a job as a workman _mCj6rIXEYo-00079-00019176-00019439 a farmer a priest a houseworker or even _mCj6rIXEYo-00080-00019440-00019607 as a pious muslim _mCj6rIXEYo-00081-00019608-00019807 this is how he avoided being captured by _mCj6rIXEYo-00082-00019808-00020022 the british he once hid in the house of _mCj6rIXEYo-00083-00020023-00020222 a man called netra sen _mCj6rIXEYo-00084-00020223-00020414 but netra sen informed the british of _mCj6rIXEYo-00085-00020415-00020591 his hiding and the police came and _mCj6rIXEYo-00086-00020592-00020894 captured him in february 1933. _mCj6rIXEYo-00087-00020895-00021094 before netra sen could be rewarded by _mCj6rIXEYo-00088-00021095-00021303 the british a revolutionary came into _mCj6rIXEYo-00089-00021304-00021494 his house and beheaded him with da a _mCj6rIXEYo-00090-00021495-00021622 long knife _mCj6rIXEYo-00091-00021623-00021847 as netra sen's wife was a big supporter _mCj6rIXEYo-00092-00021848-00022047 of surya sen she never disclosed the _mCj6rIXEYo-00093-00022048-00022222 name of the revolutionary who killed _mCj6rIXEYo-00094-00022223-00022367 netra sen _mCj6rIXEYo-00095-00022368-00022599 another revolutionary named tarakeshwar _mCj6rIXEYo-00096-00022600-00022863 dastadar was also hanged with sen after _mCj6rIXEYo-00097-00022864-00023167 his death he was given burial at sea _mCj6rIXEYo-00098-00023168-00023335 his last letter was written to his _mCj6rIXEYo-00099-00023336-00023575 friends and said death is knocking at my _mCj6rIXEYo-00100-00023576-00023830 door my mind is flying away towards _mCj6rIXEYo-00101-00023831-00024063 eternity _mCj6rIXEYo-00102-00024064-00024303 at such a pleasant at such a grave at _mCj6rIXEYo-00103-00024304-00024511 such a solemn moment what shall i leave _mCj6rIXEYo-00104-00024512-00024655 behind you _mCj6rIXEYo-00105-00024656-00024935 only one thing that is my dream a golden _mCj6rIXEYo-00106-00024936-00025278 dream the dream of free india _mCj6rIXEYo-00107-00025279-00025622 never forget the 18th of april 1930 the _mCj6rIXEYo-00108-00025623-00025790 day of the eastern rebellion in _mCj6rIXEYo-00109-00025791-00026014 chittagong _mCj6rIXEYo-00110-00026016-00026206 write in red letters in the core of your _mCj6rIXEYo-00111-00026207-00026399 hearts the names of the patriots who _mCj6rIXEYo-00112-00026400-00026614 have sacrificed their lives at the altar _mCj6rIXEYo-00113-00026616-00026895 of india's freedom the gallows in _mCj6rIXEYo-00114-00026895-00027111 chittagong central jail where sen was _mCj6rIXEYo-00115-00027112-00027343 hanged the government of bangladesh has _mCj6rIXEYo-00116-00027344-00028127 designated it a historical monument _mCj6rIXEYo-00117-00028127-00028631 in popular media _mCj6rIXEYo-00118-00028632-00028895 indian film director ashutosh gowariker _mCj6rIXEYo-00119-00028895-00029158 directed the film kalan hum ji yan se _mCj6rIXEYo-00120-00029160-00029407 2010 about sen's life _mCj6rIXEYo-00121-00029408-00029607 actor abhishek bachchan played the role _mCj6rIXEYo-00122-00029608-00029902 of sen another film chittagong 2012 _mCj6rIXEYo-00123-00029904-00030102 directed by badabrita payne was about _mCj6rIXEYo-00124-00030103-00030270 sen's armory raid _mCj6rIXEYo-00125-00030272-00031087 manoj bhajpayi played the leading role _mCj6rIXEYo-00126-00031088-00031535 see also _mCj6rIXEYo-00127-00031536-00031751 pritilata wadadar _mCj6rIXEYo-00128-00031752-00032219 mastered a suryasen metro station _njCi5XiK-U-00000-00000692-00001287 [Music] _njCi5XiK-U-00001-00001288-00001335 hi _njCi5XiK-U-00002-00001336-00001503 i'm herman stern the founder of _njCi5XiK-U-00003-00001504-00001671 overwatch and the developer _njCi5XiK-U-00004-00001672-00002023 of the openmod ranking methodology _njCi5XiK-U-00005-00002023-00002239 here at this point i typically discuss _njCi5XiK-U-00006-00002240-00002487 the stocks i want to invest in _njCi5XiK-U-00007-00002488-00002734 and you may have noticed that i focused _njCi5XiK-U-00008-00002735-00002815 mostly _njCi5XiK-U-00009-00002816-00003079 on europe that has a reason because _njCi5XiK-U-00010-00003080-00003254 investing in the united states is a _njCi5XiK-U-00011-00003255-00003383 little bit difficult _njCi5XiK-U-00012-00003384-00003719 for foreigners you become tax compliant _njCi5XiK-U-00013-00003720-00004038 quite quickly and for this reason i've _njCi5XiK-U-00014-00004039-00004127 waited _njCi5XiK-U-00015-00004128-00004431 until my wife started to invest hello _njCi5XiK-U-00016-00004432-00004502 candice _njCi5XiK-U-00017-00004503-00004815 hello herman welcome in our stock _njCi5XiK-U-00018-00004816-00005143 discussion podcast and video depending _njCi5XiK-U-00019-00005144-00005295 on what we do _njCi5XiK-U-00020-00005296-00005535 uh it's very good to have you yeah thank _njCi5XiK-U-00021-00005536-00005615 you um _njCi5XiK-U-00022-00005616-00005886 it's very good to have you here you're _njCi5XiK-U-00023-00005887-00005999 american citizen _njCi5XiK-U-00024-00006000-00006206 so for you it's a lot easier to invest _njCi5XiK-U-00025-00006207-00006334 in u.s stocks _njCi5XiK-U-00026-00006335-00006550 because from day one you're complying _njCi5XiK-U-00027-00006551-00006695 already you don't have to worry about _njCi5XiK-U-00028-00006695-00006839 anything else _njCi5XiK-U-00029-00006840-00007031 and i have to pay taxes anyway you have _njCi5XiK-U-00030-00007031-00007231 to pay taxes anyway exactly _njCi5XiK-U-00031-00007231-00007567 so we decided you should actually manage _njCi5XiK-U-00032-00007568-00007734 our us portfolio _njCi5XiK-U-00033-00007736-00008031 and we now start with u.s stocks and you _njCi5XiK-U-00034-00008031-00008183 decided you wanted to do that _njCi5XiK-U-00035-00008184-00008510 how did you go about that _njCi5XiK-U-00036-00008511-00008727 well i guess investing in stocks is _njCi5XiK-U-00037-00008728-00008863 something i've wanted to do for a long _njCi5XiK-U-00038-00008864-00008983 time _njCi5XiK-U-00039-00008984-00009255 uh but i wasn't always so confident to _njCi5XiK-U-00040-00009256-00009310 do so _njCi5XiK-U-00041-00009311-00009574 and so confident in making the choices _njCi5XiK-U-00042-00009575-00009710 and i think i've been _njCi5XiK-U-00043-00009711-00009951 watching the stock search that you've _njCi5XiK-U-00044-00009952-00010127 been developing for a long time _njCi5XiK-U-00045-00010128-00010374 and i started to take a closer look at _njCi5XiK-U-00046-00010375-00010535 it as we had a lot more time now in the _njCi5XiK-U-00047-00010536-00010751 pandemic and the markets were _njCi5XiK-U-00048-00010752-00011142 uh were quite active this year _njCi5XiK-U-00049-00011143-00011455 and so i started to take a look at at a _njCi5XiK-U-00050-00011456-00011614 few industries and started to look at a _njCi5XiK-U-00051-00011615-00011823 few companies and i found myself getting _njCi5XiK-U-00052-00011824-00011935 quite _njCi5XiK-U-00053-00011936-00012119 quite hooked to the process and found it _njCi5XiK-U-00054-00012120-00012287 really interesting yeah that's _njCi5XiK-U-00055-00012288-00012487 that's good because you we spoke over _njCi5XiK-U-00056-00012488-00012742 the last five years about what i do _njCi5XiK-U-00057-00012743-00012991 why we do it the way we do it and you _njCi5XiK-U-00058-00012991-00013046 know you _njCi5XiK-U-00059-00013047-00013294 you got that education all along and now _njCi5XiK-U-00060-00013295-00013415 you're ready to invest _njCi5XiK-U-00061-00013416-00013694 so this is your first time investing how _njCi5XiK-U-00062-00013695-00013863 do you start this how did you go about _njCi5XiK-U-00063-00013863-00013958 it _njCi5XiK-U-00064-00013959-00014183 well i guess when we were in the _njCi5XiK-U-00065-00014184-00014286 lockdown _njCi5XiK-U-00066-00014287-00014471 and as we've been home quite a lot we've _njCi5XiK-U-00067-00014472-00014591 had a lot of time to talk _njCi5XiK-U-00068-00014591-00014847 and we talk a lot about what we how we _njCi5XiK-U-00069-00014847-00014991 think the world might develop _njCi5XiK-U-00070-00014991-00015294 what we think the industries are _njCi5XiK-U-00071-00015295-00015671 that could benefit or that could suffer _njCi5XiK-U-00072-00015672-00015950 in the short medium and long term and _njCi5XiK-U-00073-00015951-00015991 that _njCi5XiK-U-00074-00015991-00016215 got me thinking about certain industries _njCi5XiK-U-00075-00016216-00016415 to start to focus on _njCi5XiK-U-00076-00016416-00016575 i think that's that's a very important _njCi5XiK-U-00077-00016576-00016775 point it's actually something i didn't _njCi5XiK-U-00078-00016776-00016815 do _njCi5XiK-U-00079-00016816-00017143 when i started to invest with my own _njCi5XiK-U-00080-00017144-00017271 portfolio _njCi5XiK-U-00081-00017272-00017615 i wanted to really stay stay very close _njCi5XiK-U-00082-00017616-00017727 to the _njCi5XiK-U-00083-00017728-00017975 overmod philosophy of just getting as _njCi5XiK-U-00084-00017976-00018183 diversified as possible _njCi5XiK-U-00085-00018184-00018527 and picking a new industry every time _njCi5XiK-U-00086-00018528-00018799 i invested and i didn't worry that much _njCi5XiK-U-00087-00018800-00018967 about the industries themselves _njCi5XiK-U-00088-00018968-00019199 um except for the fact that i didn't _njCi5XiK-U-00089-00019200-00019286 want to invest _njCi5XiK-U-00090-00019287-00019543 in carbon industries so there was very _njCi5XiK-U-00091-00019544-00019639 few _njCi5XiK-U-00092-00019640-00019830 oil companies something that is actually _njCi5XiK-U-00093-00019831-00019991 quite present _njCi5XiK-U-00094-00019992-00020214 in the global markets there are a lot of _njCi5XiK-U-00095-00020215-00020303 oil companies _njCi5XiK-U-00096-00020304-00020599 worldwide on stock exchanges so by you _njCi5XiK-U-00097-00020600-00020783 know when i bought one or two _njCi5XiK-U-00098-00020784-00020999 out of 70 stocks that was really not _njCi5XiK-U-00099-00021000-00021150 much _njCi5XiK-U-00100-00021151-00021447 and the other thing i also felt _njCi5XiK-U-00101-00021448-00021550 uncomfortable _njCi5XiK-U-00102-00021551-00021814 about was technology stocks this is also _njCi5XiK-U-00103-00021815-00021991 something i didn't invest because _njCi5XiK-U-00104-00021992-00022175 our method is not really good at picking _njCi5XiK-U-00105-00022176-00022463 the winners this stays a guessing game _njCi5XiK-U-00106-00022464-00022686 and i'm starting now to actually go into _njCi5XiK-U-00107-00022687-00022839 technology a little bit _njCi5XiK-U-00108-00022840-00023135 where i apply a lot more guessing about _njCi5XiK-U-00109-00023136-00023342 the future that i actually apply our _njCi5XiK-U-00110-00023343-00023430 ranks _njCi5XiK-U-00111-00023431-00023663 so for me it's really interesting to _njCi5XiK-U-00112-00023664-00023767 hear you talk _njCi5XiK-U-00113-00023768-00024094 i i observed you uh developing your _njCi5XiK-U-00114-00024095-00024263 industry priorities _njCi5XiK-U-00115-00024264-00024511 uh and i'm curious to hear what how that _njCi5XiK-U-00116-00024512-00024639 turned out how _njCi5XiK-U-00117-00024640-00024927 what industries are your priorities well _njCi5XiK-U-00118-00024928-00025055 you know i started reading _njCi5XiK-U-00119-00025056-00025350 uh some of the analyst reports and what _njCi5XiK-U-00120-00025351-00025494 some of the people were saying they _njCi5XiK-U-00121-00025495-00025639 thought the industries would be that _njCi5XiK-U-00122-00025639-00025831 could be interesting next year _njCi5XiK-U-00123-00025832-00026006 and that's that's essentially where i _njCi5XiK-U-00124-00026007-00026223 started so those industries are things _njCi5XiK-U-00125-00026224-00026383 like 5g _njCi5XiK-U-00126-00026383-00026767 fintech healthcare _njCi5XiK-U-00127-00026768-00027135 and green energy so when i looked at _njCi5XiK-U-00128-00027136-00027367 these industries i find many of them _njCi5XiK-U-00129-00027368-00027535 quite interesting and some of them _njCi5XiK-U-00130-00027536-00027735 overlapped with what we thought would be _njCi5XiK-U-00131-00027736-00027958 emerging as important industries next _njCi5XiK-U-00132-00027960-00028039 year _njCi5XiK-U-00133-00028039-00028239 as well and then there were one or two _njCi5XiK-U-00134-00028239-00028423 that we talked about that weren't _njCi5XiK-U-00135-00028424-00028623 you know on these analyst radars that i _njCi5XiK-U-00136-00028624-00028831 also looked at _njCi5XiK-U-00137-00028832-00029151 and these were so these were related to _njCi5XiK-U-00138-00029152-00029407 food really related to food uh and i'm _njCi5XiK-U-00139-00029408-00029527 in green energy and _njCi5XiK-U-00140-00029527-00029670 kind of more sustainable investment _njCi5XiK-U-00141-00029672-00029870 something we had been talking about _njCi5XiK-U-00142-00029872-00030214 in particular hydrogen but this is _njCi5XiK-U-00143-00030216-00030383 this is an area i'd like to continue to _njCi5XiK-U-00144-00030383-00030590 look into yeah hydration is really an _njCi5XiK-U-00145-00030591-00030679 interesting topic _njCi5XiK-U-00146-00030680-00030887 actually we are developing search _njCi5XiK-U-00147-00030888-00031079 criteria to find these stocks easier _njCi5XiK-U-00148-00031080-00031270 right now it's difficult to find them _njCi5XiK-U-00149-00031272-00031487 in the future we'll have better ways of _njCi5XiK-U-00150-00031488-00031623 searching the database _njCi5XiK-U-00151-00031624-00031935 yeah so your priorities you mentioned a _njCi5XiK-U-00152-00031936-00032039 few _njCi5XiK-U-00153-00032039-00032287 industries how did you zoom in on your _njCi5XiK-U-00154-00032288-00032487 first or second stock how did you do _njCi5XiK-U-00155-00032488-00032535 that _njCi5XiK-U-00156-00032536-00032670 well i guess there were a few things _njCi5XiK-U-00157-00032672-00032879 that i considered so with _njCi5XiK-U-00158-00032880-00033127 fintech i eliminated fintech uh _njCi5XiK-U-00159-00033128-00033279 completely because i think we already _njCi5XiK-U-00160-00033280-00033439 have a lot of exposure and financial _njCi5XiK-U-00161-00033440-00033527 services and _njCi5XiK-U-00162-00033528-00033846 uh and and fintech kind of more _njCi5XiK-U-00163-00033847-00034062 innovative that's actually a really good _njCi5XiK-U-00164-00034063-00034183 point candice you know _njCi5XiK-U-00165-00034184-00034327 uh maybe the audience doesn't know that _njCi5XiK-U-00166-00034328-00034583 so if you have a job in finance _njCi5XiK-U-00167-00034584-00034927 uh or in financial technology the way we _njCi5XiK-U-00168-00034928-00034959 have _njCi5XiK-U-00169-00034960-00035167 with oprah mod and also with your _njCi5XiK-U-00170-00035168-00035318 engagements that you have with _njCi5XiK-U-00171-00035319-00035543 the financial industry in switzerland _njCi5XiK-U-00172-00035544-00035711 you know investing _njCi5XiK-U-00173-00035712-00035911 the stocks you know in the same industry _njCi5XiK-U-00174-00035912-00036095 doesn't make that much sense _njCi5XiK-U-00175-00036096-00036279 because you want to be diversified so _njCi5XiK-U-00176-00036280-00036487 you decided now not to go into fintech _njCi5XiK-U-00177-00036488-00036702 yes yes and i actually learned _njCi5XiK-U-00178-00036703-00036983 early on in my career working in the us _njCi5XiK-U-00179-00036984-00037118 when i was started to make the _njCi5XiK-U-00180-00037119-00037351 selections for my 401k _njCi5XiK-U-00181-00037352-00037639 i put a lot of my allocation into the _njCi5XiK-U-00182-00037640-00037759 company stock _njCi5XiK-U-00183-00037760-00037959 which actually wasn't you know i always _njCi5XiK-U-00184-00037960-00038102 just put in more eggs into the same _njCi5XiK-U-00185-00038103-00038295 basket so i was already working for the _njCi5XiK-U-00186-00038296-00038462 company and then i went and i invested _njCi5XiK-U-00187-00038463-00038767 in more of their stock in my 401k _njCi5XiK-U-00188-00038768-00038967 out of loyalty and enthusiasm for the _njCi5XiK-U-00189-00038968-00039159 company but actually that was one of the _njCi5XiK-U-00190-00039160-00039295 worst performers for me _njCi5XiK-U-00191-00039296-00039415 so tell me more about that because _njCi5XiK-U-00192-00039416-00039559 that's actually a good story and fits _njCi5XiK-U-00193-00039560-00039623 you very well _njCi5XiK-U-00194-00039624-00039807 what company was that and why was that a _njCi5XiK-U-00195-00039808-00039935 bad decision _njCi5XiK-U-00196-00039936-00040190 that was mattel and that was back in the _njCi5XiK-U-00197-00040191-00040239 mid _njCi5XiK-U-00198-00040240-00040567 90s so motel for all the men _njCi5XiK-U-00199-00040568-00040774 among us is the barbie company you know _njCi5XiK-U-00200-00040775-00040951 girls know this of course but you know _njCi5XiK-U-00201-00040952-00041095 as a man i didn't know about that well _njCi5XiK-U-00202-00041096-00041215 there's a man you could know if you _njCi5XiK-U-00203-00041216-00041311 played with hot wheels _njCi5XiK-U-00204-00041312-00041479 hot wheels yeah they bought tattoos or _njCi5XiK-U-00205-00041480-00041695 any of the fisher-price baby toys but _njCi5XiK-U-00206-00041696-00041879 yes people don't remember the baby toys _njCi5XiK-U-00207-00041880-00042111 but the girls remember barbie and some _njCi5XiK-U-00208-00042112-00042295 of the boys remember hot wheels _njCi5XiK-U-00209-00042296-00042590 so in the mid 90s uh you know barbie was _njCi5XiK-U-00210-00042591-00042639 booming _njCi5XiK-U-00211-00042640-00042958 everyone was buying barbie dolls um _njCi5XiK-U-00212-00042959-00043383 this was before yeah a lot of the _njCi5XiK-U-00213-00043384-00043711 developments around you know role models _njCi5XiK-U-00214-00043712-00043862 and what role models should look like _njCi5XiK-U-00215-00043863-00044046 and diversity etc _njCi5XiK-U-00216-00044047-00044279 which which mattel has in a range of _njCi5XiK-U-00217-00044280-00044439 different barbies um _njCi5XiK-U-00218-00044440-00044695 but it was very much a traditional toy _njCi5XiK-U-00219-00044696-00044767 company _njCi5XiK-U-00220-00044768-00045087 in the mid 90s and and you worked for _njCi5XiK-U-00221-00045088-00045118 them _njCi5XiK-U-00222-00045119-00045390 and you invested your 401k plan which is _njCi5XiK-U-00223-00045391-00045574 a retirement plan for americans _njCi5XiK-U-00224-00045575-00045918 into stock of mattel right yes so _njCi5XiK-U-00225-00045919-00046087 in the beginning of my career i probably _njCi5XiK-U-00226-00046088-00046262 made two _njCi5XiK-U-00227-00046263-00046423 mistakes or two things that i would have _njCi5XiK-U-00228-00046424-00046583 done differently one is that i invested _njCi5XiK-U-00229-00046584-00046815 a large portion of my 401k in mattel and _njCi5XiK-U-00230-00046816-00046967 my own company stock _njCi5XiK-U-00231-00046968-00047143 and the other is that i invested the _njCi5XiK-U-00232-00047144-00047271 rest in _njCi5XiK-U-00233-00047272-00047630 very large cap _njCi5XiK-U-00234-00047631-00047983 kind of safe stocks so i did have um _njCi5XiK-U-00235-00047984-00048190 an index that i bought into but i bought _njCi5XiK-U-00236-00048191-00048374 into the one that was very conservative _njCi5XiK-U-00237-00048375-00048527 which being in the beginning of my _njCi5XiK-U-00238-00048528-00048735 career i probably should have gone for _njCi5XiK-U-00239-00048736-00049015 the higher risk _njCi5XiK-U-00240-00049016-00049239 selection right the longer you have the _njCi5XiK-U-00241-00049240-00049374 more time you have to invest the more _njCi5XiK-U-00242-00049375-00049511 risks you can take _njCi5XiK-U-00243-00049512-00049679 if you need the money tomorrow you _njCi5XiK-U-00244-00049680-00049830 shouldn't take any risks _njCi5XiK-U-00245-00049831-00050079 but if you have another 30 years you _njCi5XiK-U-00246-00050080-00050230 should actually take risks because if _njCi5XiK-U-00247-00050231-00050390 you go conservative it means that you _njCi5XiK-U-00248-00050391-00050567 have a lot less return right _njCi5XiK-U-00249-00050568-00050839 so as a marketing specialist in the _njCi5XiK-U-00250-00050840-00050967 beginning of my career _njCi5XiK-U-00251-00050968-00051143 i invested in the company stock and i _njCi5XiK-U-00252-00051144-00051279 went for the safe uh _njCi5XiK-U-00253-00051279-00051590 the safe bet okay now you know _njCi5XiK-U-00254-00051591-00051863 20 some years later my mattel stock has _njCi5XiK-U-00255-00051864-00052007 gone down because of _njCi5XiK-U-00256-00052008-00052270 the rise of video games and electronic _njCi5XiK-U-00257-00052271-00052519 toys which mattel was not able to _njCi5XiK-U-00258-00052520-00052687 really keep up with so their stock _njCi5XiK-U-00259-00052688-00052879 prices _njCi5XiK-U-00260-00052879-00053238 has gone down or _njCi5XiK-U-00261-00053239-00053399 flat compared with the time that i _njCi5XiK-U-00262-00053400-00053671 invested um _njCi5XiK-U-00263-00053672-00053903 because they were you know the barbie _njCi5XiK-U-00264-00053904-00054023 dolls are still _njCi5XiK-U-00265-00054024-00054191 relevant but not as much as they were _njCi5XiK-U-00266-00054191-00054350 obviously in the past _njCi5XiK-U-00267-00054351-00054550 okay very good uh so you didn't want to _njCi5XiK-U-00268-00054551-00054663 repeat that mistake _njCi5XiK-U-00269-00054664-00055007 what did you do now so now i looked at i _njCi5XiK-U-00270-00055008-00055271 removed fintech completely i find _njCi5XiK-U-00271-00055272-00055447 healthcare very interesting particularly _njCi5XiK-U-00272-00055448-00055615 in the times of the pandemic _njCi5XiK-U-00273-00055616-00055863 so i started to look at some of the _njCi5XiK-U-00274-00055864-00056063 healthcare _njCi5XiK-U-00275-00056064-00056359 companies that well actually i started _njCi5XiK-U-00276-00056360-00056463 to look at some of the _njCi5XiK-U-00277-00056464-00056742 sub sectors that were interesting um and _njCi5XiK-U-00278-00056744-00056982 i think one of them is telemedicine _njCi5XiK-U-00279-00056983-00057303 and another one is diagnostics so i _njCi5XiK-U-00280-00057304-00057471 ended up choosing a company in the _njCi5XiK-U-00281-00057472-00057671 diagnostics field i _njCi5XiK-U-00282-00057672-00057887 researched who some of the leading _njCi5XiK-U-00283-00057888-00057999 players were _njCi5XiK-U-00284-00058000-00058215 i went to the obermod site i used the _njCi5XiK-U-00285-00058216-00058391 stock search to see what the rankings _njCi5XiK-U-00286-00058391-00058438 were _njCi5XiK-U-00287-00058439-00058671 for some of those companies and then _njCi5XiK-U-00288-00058672-00058830 based on the rankings i made _njCi5XiK-U-00289-00058832-00059079 a short list of companies that had _njCi5XiK-U-00290-00059079-00059223 strong _njCi5XiK-U-00291-00059224-00059454 ranks and then i researched them and _njCi5XiK-U-00292-00059455-00059694 then i ended up choosing one _njCi5XiK-U-00293-00059695-00060054 so it was a lot of filtering down _njCi5XiK-U-00294-00060055-00060503 from healthcare to diagnostics _njCi5XiK-U-00295-00060504-00060742 and telemedicine which i think are _njCi5XiK-U-00296-00060744-00060919 within the healthcare space _njCi5XiK-U-00297-00060920-00061199 positioned for maybe more growth than _njCi5XiK-U-00298-00061200-00061271 other parts of _njCi5XiK-U-00299-00061272-00061494 the healthcare industry very good now _njCi5XiK-U-00300-00061495-00061638 tell us about the stock _njCi5XiK-U-00301-00061639-00061838 so i chose a company called quest _njCi5XiK-U-00302-00061839-00061982 diagnostics quest _njCi5XiK-U-00303-00061983-00062366 diagnostics okay so uh when i was _njCi5XiK-U-00304-00062367-00062838 going on the site so first _njCi5XiK-U-00305-00062839-00063063 here it is so when i looked at quest _njCi5XiK-U-00306-00063064-00063303 diagnostics they had a good value rank _njCi5XiK-U-00307-00063304-00063703 of 76 a growth rank of 51 _njCi5XiK-U-00308-00063704-00063919 safety rank of 50 and a combined rank of _njCi5XiK-U-00309-00063920-00064111 74 and i thought that that looked _njCi5XiK-U-00310-00064112-00064254 interesting _njCi5XiK-U-00311-00064255-00064550 i would have preferred more green more _njCi5XiK-U-00312-00064551-00064671 dark green _njCi5XiK-U-00313-00064672-00064942 um but nonetheless this was one of the _njCi5XiK-U-00314-00064944-00065047 companies that i _njCi5XiK-U-00315-00065048-00065279 that i did start to take a look at okay _njCi5XiK-U-00316-00065279-00065382 um _njCi5XiK-U-00317-00065383-00065582 quest i thought was interesting it's a _njCi5XiK-U-00318-00065583-00065815 fairly large company _njCi5XiK-U-00319-00065816-00066150 uh extra large actually um and _njCi5XiK-U-00320-00066151-00066438 they are very well diversified i find so _njCi5XiK-U-00321-00066439-00066591 first of all they do a lot of corona _njCi5XiK-U-00322-00066592-00066647 testing _njCi5XiK-U-00323-00066648-00066967 which i think as much as i would like to _njCi5XiK-U-00324-00066968-00067079 believe that _njCi5XiK-U-00325-00067080-00067238 in the beginning of next year we won't _njCi5XiK-U-00326-00067239-00067399 need it anymore i think the reality _njCi5XiK-U-00327-00067400-00067591 is that even with the vaccine we will _njCi5XiK-U-00328-00067592-00067759 still need testing we will need to test _njCi5XiK-U-00329-00067760-00067806 to see _njCi5XiK-U-00330-00067807-00068119 how long the vaccines are effective and _njCi5XiK-U-00331-00068120-00068223 testing will _njCi5XiK-U-00332-00068224-00068550 probably be a part of our daily life for _njCi5XiK-U-00333-00068551-00068791 at least the short to midterm okay so i _njCi5XiK-U-00334-00068792-00068967 thought that that was interesting _njCi5XiK-U-00335-00068968-00069231 that they are very active in um covet _njCi5XiK-U-00336-00069232-00069343 testing _njCi5XiK-U-00337-00069344-00069543 but as i looked on their site i saw that _njCi5XiK-U-00338-00069544-00069671 they were actually _njCi5XiK-U-00339-00069672-00069999 involved in all kinds of testing so _njCi5XiK-U-00340-00070000-00070206 this is not an upstart company that has _njCi5XiK-U-00341-00070207-00070438 just risen to fame because of covet _njCi5XiK-U-00342-00070439-00070519 testing _njCi5XiK-U-00343-00070520-00070750 they are testing you know people they _njCi5XiK-U-00344-00070751-00070926 develop allergy tests _njCi5XiK-U-00345-00070927-00071150 um all kinds of tests for different _njCi5XiK-U-00346-00071151-00071255 illnesses _njCi5XiK-U-00347-00071256-00071535 uh they really have a very wide palette _njCi5XiK-U-00348-00071536-00071647 of tests that they _njCi5XiK-U-00349-00071648-00071862 produce and they also serve a very _njCi5XiK-U-00350-00071863-00072015 diversified _njCi5XiK-U-00351-00072016-00072350 client base okay they serve _njCi5XiK-U-00352-00072351-00072567 hospitals organizations as well as _njCi5XiK-U-00353-00072568-00072759 companies so companies that are doing _njCi5XiK-U-00354-00072760-00073031 employing drug testing for example _njCi5XiK-U-00355-00073032-00073215 are their clients as well so i thought _njCi5XiK-U-00356-00073216-00073375 that with their _njCi5XiK-U-00357-00073376-00073662 wide range of tests as well as their _njCi5XiK-U-00358-00073663-00073871 diversified portfolio of clients _njCi5XiK-U-00359-00073872-00074023 that this was probably a company that _njCi5XiK-U-00360-00074024-00074175 was going to be _njCi5XiK-U-00361-00074176-00074375 here for the longer term and with their _njCi5XiK-U-00362-00074376-00074631 value rank of 76 i thought that that was _njCi5XiK-U-00363-00074632-00074911 that this was perhaps one of the _njCi5XiK-U-00364-00074912-00075119 companies that was _njCi5XiK-U-00365-00075120-00075447 being overlooked um at the moment yeah _njCi5XiK-U-00366-00075448-00075671 okay so you decided healthcare went into _njCi5XiK-U-00367-00075672-00075799 diagnostics especially _njCi5XiK-U-00368-00075800-00076079 now you believe there's a big future and _njCi5XiK-U-00369-00076080-00076159 you found _njCi5XiK-U-00370-00076160-00076367 excellent ranks and on top of that it's _njCi5XiK-U-00371-00076368-00076503 a large company that was your first _njCi5XiK-U-00372-00076504-00076687 decision that was my first decision _njCi5XiK-U-00373-00076688-00076887 yes i did look at some of the other _njCi5XiK-U-00374-00076888-00076999 companies so _njCi5XiK-U-00375-00077000-00077159 when i was looking at quests then i _njCi5XiK-U-00376-00077160-00077415 looked at the similar stocks _njCi5XiK-U-00377-00077416-00077623 i really like this feature similar _njCi5XiK-U-00378-00077624-00077791 stocks _njCi5XiK-U-00379-00077792-00077991 so i looked at some of the i mean i was _njCi5XiK-U-00380-00077992-00078126 only looking at u.s companies _njCi5XiK-U-00381-00078127-00078415 so a lot of these companies fell out of _njCi5XiK-U-00382-00078416-00078479 out of _njCi5XiK-U-00383-00078480-00078638 contention which was good because there _njCi5XiK-U-00384-00078639-00078806 are a lot of companies to choose from _njCi5XiK-U-00385-00078807-00078894 here _njCi5XiK-U-00386-00078895-00079126 so i chose i focused on u.s stocks and i _njCi5XiK-U-00387-00079127-00079311 focused on a large _njCi5XiK-U-00388-00079312-00079679 um plus or minus so not extra extra _njCi5XiK-U-00389-00079680-00079743 large _njCi5XiK-U-00390-00079744-00079975 or too small because i am making _njCi5XiK-U-00391-00079976-00080167 individual selections in this industry i _njCi5XiK-U-00392-00080168-00080303 wanted to go for something that was more _njCi5XiK-U-00393-00080304-00080406 middle of the road _njCi5XiK-U-00394-00080407-00080823 okay um yeah so i did look at a few of _njCi5XiK-U-00395-00080824-00081062 the other large companies in the us _njCi5XiK-U-00396-00081063-00081503 humana patterson united health _njCi5XiK-U-00397-00081504-00081887 for example and i had decided _njCi5XiK-U-00398-00081888-00082150 against them i didn't want to go for a _njCi5XiK-U-00399-00082151-00082247 straight _njCi5XiK-U-00400-00082248-00082567 health insurance company _njCi5XiK-U-00401-00082568-00082823 and looking at some of the other managed _njCi5XiK-U-00402-00082824-00082926 health care _njCi5XiK-U-00403-00082927-00083111 companies you know there there wasn't _njCi5XiK-U-00404-00083112-00083287 any one that stood out _njCi5XiK-U-00405-00083288-00083623 as having very strong ranks and _njCi5XiK-U-00406-00083624-00083894 fitting my criteria of a company that i _njCi5XiK-U-00407-00083895-00084006 thought was _njCi5XiK-U-00408-00084007-00084311 positioned for uh _njCi5XiK-U-00409-00084312-00084615 for growth and value over the long term _njCi5XiK-U-00410-00084616-00084775 very good that sounds really interesting _njCi5XiK-U-00411-00084776-00084926 yeah i like that idea you know _njCi5XiK-U-00412-00084927-00085215 health and technology and service at the _njCi5XiK-U-00413-00085216-00085335 same time _njCi5XiK-U-00414-00085336-00085543 that is at the moment a good value i _njCi5XiK-U-00415-00085544-00085726 think it's a good good point especially _njCi5XiK-U-00416-00085727-00085967 since it's a large company i don't think _njCi5XiK-U-00417-00085968-00086167 you can't do that much wrong there _njCi5XiK-U-00418-00086168-00086303 good choice that's your first decision _njCi5XiK-U-00419-00086304-00086503 what about your second _njCi5XiK-U-00420-00086504-00086726 so my second one if i go back to the _njCi5XiK-U-00421-00086727-00086823 industries that i _njCi5XiK-U-00422-00086824-00087006 listed in the beginning this isn't one _njCi5XiK-U-00423-00087007-00087167 of the ones that was on there but _njCi5XiK-U-00424-00087168-00087359 you know fintech we talked about _njCi5XiK-U-00425-00087360-00087582 healthcare we talked about 5g _njCi5XiK-U-00426-00087583-00087903 i also considered but i found _njCi5XiK-U-00427-00087904-00088143 also maybe early on in in both our _njCi5XiK-U-00428-00088144-00088343 careers in technology _njCi5XiK-U-00429-00088344-00088823 and in telecoms i thought that 5g _njCi5XiK-U-00430-00088824-00088967 i found it a little bit limiting in _njCi5XiK-U-00431-00088968-00089135 terms of the _njCi5XiK-U-00432-00089136-00089479 companies that could be a good value to _njCi5XiK-U-00433-00089480-00089567 invest in _njCi5XiK-U-00434-00089568-00089735 now versus the future i think a lot of _njCi5XiK-U-00435-00089736-00089911 those are probably earlier stage _njCi5XiK-U-00436-00089912-00090079 companies or smaller ones _njCi5XiK-U-00437-00090080-00090406 and a little bit harder to identify as _njCi5XiK-U-00438-00090407-00090582 as a solid investment for the long term _njCi5XiK-U-00439-00090583-00090750 hard to pick the winner that would be _njCi5XiK-U-00440-00090751-00090911 emerging in that field so what did you _njCi5XiK-U-00441-00090912-00091094 pick _njCi5XiK-U-00442-00091095-00091438 so i looked at foods okay and i thought _njCi5XiK-U-00443-00091439-00091782 you know packaged goods um or _njCi5XiK-U-00444-00091783-00092111 food staples because uh you know people _njCi5XiK-U-00445-00092112-00092350 people always need to eat and _njCi5XiK-U-00446-00092351-00092471 particularly in _njCi5XiK-U-00447-00092472-00092750 these times of all of this lockdown and _njCi5XiK-U-00448-00092751-00092823 focus _njCi5XiK-U-00449-00092824-00093143 a bit more of a focus on healthy eating _njCi5XiK-U-00450-00093144-00093438 well on good health healthy eating and _njCi5XiK-U-00451-00093439-00093671 also sustainable _njCi5XiK-U-00452-00093672-00093967 production and consumption i started to _njCi5XiK-U-00453-00093968-00094182 look at some of the food companies _njCi5XiK-U-00454-00094183-00094367 i started out with general mills because _njCi5XiK-U-00455-00094368-00094535 that's kind of the one that's top of _njCi5XiK-U-00456-00094536-00094694 mind i looked at their _njCi5XiK-U-00457-00094695-00095031 uh their ranks um _njCi5XiK-U-00458-00095032-00095399 their their over ranks were not _njCi5XiK-U-00459-00095400-00095631 so strong so i didn't want to invest in _njCi5XiK-U-00460-00095632-00095791 general mills for me it was more of a _njCi5XiK-U-00461-00095792-00095894 starting point _njCi5XiK-U-00462-00095895-00096038 to then look at some of the similar _njCi5XiK-U-00463-00096039-00096303 stocks okay um general mills ranks uh _njCi5XiK-U-00464-00096304-00096382 you know 40 _njCi5XiK-U-00465-00096383-00096718 uh 38 in value 82 in growth which is _njCi5XiK-U-00466-00096719-00096862 really strong _njCi5XiK-U-00467-00096863-00097182 but i felt that you know a value rank of _njCi5XiK-U-00468-00097183-00097294 38 was _njCi5XiK-U-00469-00097295-00097518 too low for me so i started to look at _njCi5XiK-U-00470-00097519-00097774 some of the similar stocks _njCi5XiK-U-00471-00097775-00098055 over here on this page and what i really _njCi5XiK-U-00472-00098056-00098103 like _njCi5XiK-U-00473-00098104-00098494 is well i looked at again u.s companies _njCi5XiK-U-00474-00098495-00098623 only _njCi5XiK-U-00475-00098624-00098862 and i went for some companies that were _njCi5XiK-U-00476-00098863-00098950 not _njCi5XiK-U-00477-00098951-00099367 too large so the ones that i ended up _njCi5XiK-U-00478-00099368-00099582 looking at _njCi5XiK-U-00479-00099583-00099894 in more detail are some of the _njCi5XiK-U-00480-00099895-00100271 uh the mid-sized companies um so on this _njCi5XiK-U-00481-00100272-00100335 list _njCi5XiK-U-00482-00100336-00100718 i took a look at john filippo and sun _njCi5XiK-U-00483-00100719-00101031 b g foods seneca foods _njCi5XiK-U-00484-00101032-00101287 um and i think i also look no standard _njCi5XiK-U-00485-00101288-00101455 foods is a taiwanese company so those _njCi5XiK-U-00486-00101456-00101582 were the three that i _njCi5XiK-U-00487-00101583-00101759 i had looked at because they were within _njCi5XiK-U-00488-00101760-00101911 the mid-sized companies _njCi5XiK-U-00489-00101912-00102247 all had very strong value ranks on _njCi5XiK-U-00490-00102248-00102566 you know between 88 and 98 _njCi5XiK-U-00491-00102567-00102934 um combined ranks of 100 um _njCi5XiK-U-00492-00102935-00103223 and good growth in safety ranks uh so _njCi5XiK-U-00493-00103224-00103439 when i looked at each one of them _njCi5XiK-U-00494-00103440-00103758 um i you know john obison _njCi5XiK-U-00495-00103759-00104063 filippo i think produces nuts i was a _njCi5XiK-U-00496-00104064-00104247 little bit careful there because of _njCi5XiK-U-00497-00104248-00104566 allergies our kids have allergies and i _njCi5XiK-U-00498-00104567-00104710 think many people do and so i thought _njCi5XiK-U-00499-00104711-00104871 nuts was an area that's a little bit _njCi5XiK-U-00500-00104872-00104990 more limited _njCi5XiK-U-00501-00104991-00105239 um although with a move towards _njCi5XiK-U-00502-00105240-00105383 non-animal proteins _njCi5XiK-U-00503-00105383-00105566 they could be well positioned uh but i _njCi5XiK-U-00504-00105567-00105727 think particularly in the us _njCi5XiK-U-00505-00105728-00106047 where nut allergies are such an _njCi5XiK-U-00506-00106048-00106534 important topic um i i shied away _njCi5XiK-U-00507-00106535-00106695 b from them foods i looked at as well _njCi5XiK-U-00508-00106696-00106847 this is the packaged good companies with _njCi5XiK-U-00509-00106848-00106999 lots of brands that i remember from my _njCi5XiK-U-00510-00107000-00107166 childhood _njCi5XiK-U-00511-00107167-00107399 cream of wheat and all of these packets _njCi5XiK-U-00512-00107400-00107527 and many different packaged _njCi5XiK-U-00513-00107528-00107910 goods and i was very tempted _njCi5XiK-U-00514-00107911-00108143 i think because of this nostalgic _njCi5XiK-U-00515-00108144-00108302 feeling of a lot of the brands that they _njCi5XiK-U-00516-00108303-00108447 have in their portfolio _njCi5XiK-U-00517-00108448-00108823 which i also grew up with _njCi5XiK-U-00518-00108824-00108983 you know for many many years so i think _njCi5XiK-U-00519-00108983-00109190 that they are well positioned also for _njCi5XiK-U-00520-00109191-00109366 you know to be to be here for the longer _njCi5XiK-U-00521-00109367-00109543 term okay um _njCi5XiK-U-00522-00109544-00109839 but one of the things that didn't sit so _njCi5XiK-U-00523-00109840-00109919 well with me _njCi5XiK-U-00524-00109920-00110223 is partially their safety rank at 36 _njCi5XiK-U-00525-00110224-00110431 um but also that a lot of the packaged _njCi5XiK-U-00526-00110432-00110583 foods are not as healthy _njCi5XiK-U-00527-00110583-00110934 as some of the other foods obviously _njCi5XiK-U-00528-00110935-00111231 because of the nature of processed foods _njCi5XiK-U-00529-00111232-00111407 so i took another look so i was taking a _njCi5XiK-U-00530-00111408-00111575 look at seneca foods this was the _njCi5XiK-U-00531-00111576-00111815 third one on my list and when i looked _njCi5XiK-U-00532-00111816-00112039 at seneca i saw that they had _njCi5XiK-U-00533-00112040-00112286 as i saw in the previous chart very _njCi5XiK-U-00534-00112288-00112415 strong ranks _njCi5XiK-U-00535-00112416-00112671 lots of dark green which i like and no _njCi5XiK-U-00536-00112672-00112831 yellow or red _njCi5XiK-U-00537-00112832-00113039 and i looked at what they do and seneca _njCi5XiK-U-00538-00113040-00113175 i find very interesting because they _njCi5XiK-U-00539-00113176-00113334 really focus on fruits and vegetables _njCi5XiK-U-00540-00113335-00113519 which is something that i think is _njCi5XiK-U-00541-00113520-00113727 an essential part of healthy living and _njCi5XiK-U-00542-00113728-00113839 something that uh _njCi5XiK-U-00543-00113840-00114039 that for me also in the family is _njCi5XiK-U-00544-00114040-00114239 something we consume quite a lot _njCi5XiK-U-00545-00114240-00114439 seneca i find interesting because they _njCi5XiK-U-00546-00114440-00114654 are involved in many parts of the value _njCi5XiK-U-00547-00114655-00114719 chain _njCi5XiK-U-00548-00114720-00115039 from providing the seeds for fruits and _njCi5XiK-U-00549-00115040-00115143 vegetables _njCi5XiK-U-00550-00115144-00115463 um through to harvesting and then also _njCi5XiK-U-00551-00115464-00115654 into some final production of fruits and _njCi5XiK-U-00552-00115655-00115775 vegetables uh _njCi5XiK-U-00553-00115776-00115975 fruit and vegetable products so i _njCi5XiK-U-00554-00115976-00116139 thought that you know i really look for _njCi5XiK-U-00555-00116140-00116319 diversification _njCi5XiK-U-00556-00116320-00116502 in a company and i saw that they were _njCi5XiK-U-00557-00116503-00116702 diversified not only across the value _njCi5XiK-U-00558-00116703-00116751 chain _njCi5XiK-U-00559-00116752-00116902 but also across a number of different _njCi5XiK-U-00560-00116903-00117071 fruits and vegetables yeah that makes _njCi5XiK-U-00561-00117072-00117158 sense _njCi5XiK-U-00562-00117159-00117295 interesting that makes sense the seed _njCi5XiK-U-00563-00117296-00117486 part is actually often _njCi5XiK-U-00564-00117488-00117710 proprietary so they have intellectual _njCi5XiK-U-00565-00117711-00117815 property rights _njCi5XiK-U-00566-00117816-00118143 where they can have a an additional _njCi5XiK-U-00567-00118144-00118471 return and the processing of food _njCi5XiK-U-00568-00118472-00118710 is very brand conscious where you also _njCi5XiK-U-00569-00118711-00118854 have kind of an intellectual property _njCi5XiK-U-00570-00118855-00119023 with the brand that you have _njCi5XiK-U-00571-00119024-00119166 yeah so that makes sense if they have _njCi5XiK-U-00572-00119167-00119390 that too it also seemed like a company _njCi5XiK-U-00573-00119391-00119486 that's been _njCi5XiK-U-00574-00119488-00119783 well it is a company that has been uh in _njCi5XiK-U-00575-00119783-00119902 a family-run business _njCi5XiK-U-00576-00119903-00120214 for at least three generations um it's _njCi5XiK-U-00577-00120215-00120478 publicly listed and they recently have _njCi5XiK-U-00578-00120479-00120766 appointed a new ceo last september i _njCi5XiK-U-00579-00120767-00120927 think someone who has _njCi5XiK-U-00580-00120928-00121078 been with the company for a number of _njCi5XiK-U-00581-00121079-00121214 years so he's familiar with the _njCi5XiK-U-00582-00121215-00121390 companies familiar with the industry _njCi5XiK-U-00583-00121391-00121558 but maybe is able to bring in now some _njCi5XiK-U-00584-00121559-00121719 fresh ideas very good _njCi5XiK-U-00585-00121720-00121878 very good so these are your first two _njCi5XiK-U-00586-00121879-00122078 choices did you buy these stocks _njCi5XiK-U-00587-00122079-00122319 i did i did very good very good _njCi5XiK-U-00588-00122320-00122454 congratulations _njCi5XiK-U-00589-00122455-00122710 candace that was do your decision very _njCi5XiK-U-00590-00122711-00122863 good your two decisions your _njCi5XiK-U-00591-00122864-00123199 first decisions and uh we wish you _njCi5XiK-U-00593-00126208-00126415 you _n-3dlXPdR8-00000-00000008-00000142 we're asked to expand the following _n-3dlXPdR8-00001-00000143-00000335 expression using properties of _n-3dlXPdR8-00002-00000336-00000638 logarithms we're given log _n-3dlXPdR8-00003-00000639-00000854 base three of _n-3dlXPdR8-00004-00000855-00001231 the product of two x and x minus three _n-3dlXPdR8-00005-00001232-00001527 divided by the product of the quantity _n-3dlXPdR8-00006-00001528-00001991 two x minus one and x plus four _n-3dlXPdR8-00007-00001992-00002167 notice how the argument of the logarithm _n-3dlXPdR8-00008-00002168-00002350 is already factored completely and _n-3dlXPdR8-00009-00002351-00002591 nothing simplifies _n-3dlXPdR8-00010-00002592-00002839 to begin expanding we will first use the _n-3dlXPdR8-00011-00002840-00003047 quotient property of logarithms shown _n-3dlXPdR8-00012-00003048-00003390 here where log base b of m divided by n _n-3dlXPdR8-00013-00003392-00003679 equals log base b of m minus _n-3dlXPdR8-00014-00003679-00003831 log base b of n _n-3dlXPdR8-00015-00003832-00003975 notice how we have the log of the _n-3dlXPdR8-00016-00003976-00004086 numerator _n-3dlXPdR8-00017-00004087-00004335 minus the log of the denominator so in _n-3dlXPdR8-00018-00004336-00004759 our case this is equal to log base three _n-3dlXPdR8-00019-00004760-00005047 of the numerator which is two x _n-3dlXPdR8-00020-00005048-00005295 times the quantity x minus three _n-3dlXPdR8-00021-00005296-00005535 and then we have minus _n-3dlXPdR8-00022-00005536-00005759 log base three _n-3dlXPdR8-00023-00005760-00006015 of the denominator which is the quantity _n-3dlXPdR8-00024-00006016-00006151 two x _n-3dlXPdR8-00025-00006152-00006542 minus one times the quantity x plus four _n-3dlXPdR8-00026-00006543-00006710 and there should be a closed parenthesis _n-3dlXPdR8-00027-00006711-00006967 here _n-3dlXPdR8-00028-00006968-00007142 notice now we have a log of a product _n-3dlXPdR8-00029-00007143-00007391 here as well as here _n-3dlXPdR8-00030-00007392-00007614 we can expand further by using the _n-3dlXPdR8-00031-00007615-00007814 product property of logarithms which is _n-3dlXPdR8-00032-00007815-00008191 shown here log base b of m times n _n-3dlXPdR8-00033-00008192-00008471 equals log base b of m plus _n-3dlXPdR8-00034-00008472-00008671 log base b of n _n-3dlXPdR8-00035-00008672-00008895 so for this first logarithm _n-3dlXPdR8-00036-00008896-00009159 we have log base three of a product of _n-3dlXPdR8-00037-00009160-00009295 three factors _n-3dlXPdR8-00038-00009296-00009591 one factor is two one factor is x and _n-3dlXPdR8-00039-00009592-00009814 one factor is x minus three this will _n-3dlXPdR8-00040-00009815-00010183 expand into the sum of three logs _n-3dlXPdR8-00041-00010184-00010631 so next we have log base three of two _n-3dlXPdR8-00042-00010632-00010767 plus _n-3dlXPdR8-00043-00010768-00011006 log base three of x _n-3dlXPdR8-00044-00011007-00011351 and then finally plus log base three of _n-3dlXPdR8-00045-00011352-00011623 the quantity x minus 3. _n-3dlXPdR8-00046-00011624-00011855 notice this is also a log of a product _n-3dlXPdR8-00047-00011856-00011999 but we need to be careful here because _n-3dlXPdR8-00048-00012000-00012246 of the subtraction if we subtract this _n-3dlXPdR8-00049-00012247-00012335 log _n-3dlXPdR8-00050-00012336-00012567 we must also subtract the expansion of _n-3dlXPdR8-00051-00012568-00012791 this log so because we have a product of _n-3dlXPdR8-00052-00012792-00013111 two factors this will expand _n-3dlXPdR8-00053-00013112-00013311 to the sum of two logs _n-3dlXPdR8-00054-00013312-00013543 but we must subtract that sum so we'll _n-3dlXPdR8-00055-00013544-00013927 have minus and then in parentheses _n-3dlXPdR8-00056-00013928-00014047 log _n-3dlXPdR8-00057-00014047-00014238 base three of the first factor of two x _n-3dlXPdR8-00058-00014240-00014543 minus one _n-3dlXPdR8-00059-00014544-00014686 plus _n-3dlXPdR8-00060-00014687-00014943 log base three of the second factor of x _n-3dlXPdR8-00061-00014944-00015247 plus four _n-3dlXPdR8-00062-00015247-00015430 but for the last step let's close these _n-3dlXPdR8-00063-00015431-00015647 parentheses and because of the minus if _n-3dlXPdR8-00064-00015647-00015766 it's helpful _n-3dlXPdR8-00065-00015768-00015943 we can think of distributing a negative _n-3dlXPdR8-00066-00015944-00016055 one _n-3dlXPdR8-00067-00016056-00016366 so the final expansion is log _n-3dlXPdR8-00068-00016368-00016558 base three of two _n-3dlXPdR8-00069-00016559-00016711 plus _n-3dlXPdR8-00070-00016712-00016943 log base three of x _n-3dlXPdR8-00071-00016944-00017086 plus _n-3dlXPdR8-00072-00017087-00017327 log base three of the quantity x minus _n-3dlXPdR8-00073-00017328-00017415 three _n-3dlXPdR8-00074-00017416-00017558 and then clearing the parentheses we _n-3dlXPdR8-00075-00017559-00017711 have minus _n-3dlXPdR8-00076-00017712-00017894 log base three of the quantity two x _n-3dlXPdR8-00077-00017895-00018039 minus one _n-3dlXPdR8-00078-00018040-00018150 minus _n-3dlXPdR8-00079-00018151-00018358 log base three of the quantity x plus _n-3dlXPdR8-00080-00018359-00020007 four _n-3dlXPdR8-00081-00020008-00020380 i hope you found this helpful A0CzFQ9aoS4-00000-00000000-00000229 so firstly I just want to say I had the A0CzFQ9aoS4-00001-00000231-00000451 worst audience while watching the last A0CzFQ9aoS4-00002-00000452-00000671 witch hunter I found myself sitting A0CzFQ9aoS4-00003-00000672-00000965 right at the front to avoid the bag A0CzFQ9aoS4-00004-00000966-00001289 Rattler's and lip smackers I was so A0CzFQ9aoS4-00005-00001290-00001511 close I felt like I was sat on Vin A0CzFQ9aoS4-00006-00001512-00001864 Diesel's lap I wasn't enough to keep me A0CzFQ9aoS4-00007-00001866-00002156 awake this is witches doing paint by A0CzFQ9aoS4-00008-00002157-00002432 numbers sometimes films just need to A0CzFQ9aoS4-00009-00002433-00002729 stay on the blacklist there is a reason A0CzFQ9aoS4-00010-00002730-00002966 why they are there some parts work but A0CzFQ9aoS4-00011-00002967-00003158 for most of the film it would get lost A0CzFQ9aoS4-00012-00003159-00003449 in its own ideas it couldn't find the A0CzFQ9aoS4-00013-00003450-00003701 exit instead bouncing off the walls I A0CzFQ9aoS4-00014-00003702-00003911 mean cohere immense the film keeps A0CzFQ9aoS4-00015-00003911-00004211 adding ideas and characters and doesn't A0CzFQ9aoS4-00016-00004212-00004527 know when to stop though I will admit A0CzFQ9aoS4-00017-00004528-00004804 joseph gilgun sounding like a character A0CzFQ9aoS4-00018-00004805-00005045 from a red dead redemption was actually A0CzFQ9aoS4-00019-00005046-00005243 a highlight of the movie the film is A0CzFQ9aoS4-00020-00005244-00005417 clearly concentrated on the special A0CzFQ9aoS4-00021-00005418-00005618 effects and forgot all about the other A0CzFQ9aoS4-00022-00005619-00005909 elements of the film rose leslie feels A0CzFQ9aoS4-00023-00005910-00006127 like the person you get if I so Fisher A0CzFQ9aoS4-00024-00006128-00006413 isn't available and it's just not ready A0CzFQ9aoS4-00025-00006414-00006626 to be a leading lady she just didn't 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A0CzFQ9aoS4-00039-00010218-00010403 made worse when he sends a majority of A0CzFQ9aoS4-00040-00010404-00010595 the film acting against the charismatic A0CzFQ9aoS4-00041-00010596-00010871 Michael gain if it wasn't for the breath A0CzFQ9aoS4-00042-00010872-00011092 of fresh air that is Kane the movie A0CzFQ9aoS4-00043-00011093-00011410 would have been a right stinker just A0CzFQ9aoS4-00044-00011411-00011563 make sure you give yourself a good old A0CzFQ9aoS4-00045-00011564-00011888 strength before else you will come out A0CzFQ9aoS4-00046-00011889-00012214 of the film smelling like rubbish too I A0CzFQ9aoS4-00047-00012215-00012388 couldn't discuss with you one single A0CzFQ9aoS4-00048-00012389-00012578 scene because the film is instantly A0CzFQ9aoS4-00049-00012579-00012818 forgettable and it also managed to make A0CzFQ9aoS4-00050-00012819-00013085 you feel incredibly slow guish I A0CzFQ9aoS4-00051-00013086-00013291 actually couldn't function properly A0CzFQ9aoS4-00052-00013293-00013463 after watching this film the most A0CzFQ9aoS4-00053-00013463-00013766 frustrating part is that the film reeks A0CzFQ9aoS4-00054-00013766-00014075 of confidence for a sequel thanks for A0CzFQ9aoS4-00055-00014076-00014272 watching be sure to LIKE the video and A0CzFQ9aoS4-00056-00014273-00014504 subscribe what is your favorite movie A0CzFQ9aoS4-00057-00014505-00014755 about witches just leave a comment in A0CzFQ9aoS4-00058-00014756-00014963 the box below and if you want to watch A0CzFQ9aoS4-00059-00014963-00015409 more 2015 reviews just click on the link A1YzcJvMFtY-00000-00000046-00000267 this article is about the business A1YzcJvMFtY-00001-00000268-00000678 between 1904 and 1987 for the A1YzcJvMFtY-00002-00000679-00000873 present-day owners of the same business A1YzcJvMFtY-00003-00000874-00001122 enterprise see rolls-royce Holdings for A1YzcJvMFtY-00004-00001123-00001365 aero engines etc and rolls-royce motor A1YzcJvMFtY-00005-00001366-00001664 cars for other uses see rolls-royce A1YzcJvMFtY-00006-00001664-00002081 disambiguation rolls-royce was a British A1YzcJvMFtY-00007-00002082-00002291 luxury car and later an aero engine A1YzcJvMFtY-00008-00002292-00002510 manufacturing business established in A1YzcJvMFtY-00009-00002511-00002774 1904 by the partnership of Charles rolls A1YzcJvMFtY-00010-00002775-00003045 and Henry Royce building on Royce's A1YzcJvMFtY-00011-00003046-00003279 reputation established with his cranes A1YzcJvMFtY-00012-00003279-00003483 they quickly developed a reputation for A1YzcJvMFtY-00013-00003484-00003731 superior engineering by manufacturing A1YzcJvMFtY-00014-00003732-00004068 the best car in the world the First A1YzcJvMFtY-00015-00004069-00004200 World War brought them into A1YzcJvMFtY-00016-00004201-00004461 manufacturing aero engines joint A1YzcJvMFtY-00017-00004462-00004763 development of jet engines began in 1940 A1YzcJvMFtY-00018-00004764-00005025 and they entered production rolls-royce A1YzcJvMFtY-00019-00005026-00005270 has built an enduring reputation for A1YzcJvMFtY-00020-00005271-00005477 development and manufacture of engines A1YzcJvMFtY-00021-00005478-00005793 for defense and civil aircraft in the A1YzcJvMFtY-00022-00005794-00006086 late 1960s rolls-royce became hopelessly A1YzcJvMFtY-00023-00006087-00006261 crippled by its mismanagement of A1YzcJvMFtY-00024-00006262-00006581 development of its advanced rb211 jet A1YzcJvMFtY-00025-00006582-00006806 engine and the consequent cost overruns A1YzcJvMFtY-00026-00006807-00006989 though it ultimately proved a great A1YzcJvMFtY-00027-00006990-00007385 success in 1971 the owners were obliged A1YzcJvMFtY-00028-00007386-00007680 to liquidate their business the useful A1YzcJvMFtY-00029-00007681-00007823 portions were bought by a new A1YzcJvMFtY-00030-00007825-00007967 government-owned company named A1YzcJvMFtY-00031-00007968-00008319 rolls-royce 1971 Limited which continued A1YzcJvMFtY-00032-00008320-00008510 the core business but sold the holdings A1YzcJvMFtY-00033-00008511-00008748 in British Aircraft Corporation BAC A1YzcJvMFtY-00034-00008749-00008976 almost immediately and transferred A1YzcJvMFtY-00035-00008977-00009146 ownership of the profitable but now A1YzcJvMFtY-00036-00009147-00009363 financially insignificant car division A1YzcJvMFtY-00037-00009364-00009599 to rolls-royce motors Holdings Limited A1YzcJvMFtY-00038-00009600-00009896 this it sold to Vickers in 1980 A1YzcJvMFtY-00039-00009897-00010184 rolls-royce obtained consent to drop A1YzcJvMFtY-00040-00010185-00010631 1971 from its name in 1977 the A1YzcJvMFtY-00041-00010632-00010781 rolls-royce business remained A1YzcJvMFtY-00042-00010782-00011084 nationalized until 1987 when renaming A1YzcJvMFtY-00043-00011085-00011367 the owner rolls-royce PLC the government A1YzcJvMFtY-00044-00011368-00011666 sold it to the public rolls-royce PLC A1YzcJvMFtY-00045-00011667-00011913 still owns and operates Rolls Royces A1YzcJvMFtY-00046-00011914-00012203 principal business though since 2003 it A1YzcJvMFtY-00047-00012204-00012428 is technically a subsidiary of listed A1YzcJvMFtY-00048-00012429-00012659 holding company rolls-royce Holdings plc A1YzcJvMFtY-00049-00012660-00013113 a marketing survey in 1987 showed that A1YzcJvMFtY-00050-00013113-00013319 only coca-cola was a more widely known A1YzcJvMFtY-00051-00013321-00013416 Brandon A1YzcJvMFtY-00052-00013416-00013629 Royce A1YzcJvMFtY-00053-00013630-00013977 topic motorcars in 1884 Henry Roy A1YzcJvMFtY-00054-00013978-00014136 started an electrical and mechanical A1YzcJvMFtY-00055-00014137-00014466 business he made his first car a A1YzcJvMFtY-00056-00014466-00014685 two-cylinder Royce ten in his Manchester A1YzcJvMFtY-00057-00014686-00015057 Factory in 1904 Henry Royce was A1YzcJvMFtY-00058-00015058-00015225 introduced to Charles roles at the A1YzcJvMFtY-00059-00015226-00015453 Midland Hotel Manchester on the fourth A1YzcJvMFtY-00060-00015454-00015753 of May of that year Rolls was proprietor A1YzcJvMFtY-00061-00015754-00015987 of an early motor car dealership CS A1YzcJvMFtY-00062-00015988-00016233 roles in Coe in Fulham in spite of his A1YzcJvMFtY-00063-00016234-00016431 preference for three or four cylinder A1YzcJvMFtY-00064-00016432-00016626 cars Rolls was impressed with the Royce A1YzcJvMFtY-00065-00016627-00016851 ten and in a subsequent agreement on the A1YzcJvMFtY-00066-00016852-00017151 23rd of December 1904 agreed to take all A1YzcJvMFtY-00067-00017152-00017406 the cars royce could make there would be A1YzcJvMFtY-00068-00017407-00017727 four models a ten horsepower 7.5 A1YzcJvMFtY-00069-00017728-00018005 kilowatts two cylinder models selling at A1YzcJvMFtY-00070-00018006-00018459 395 pounds 40,000 pounds in 2014 a 15 A1YzcJvMFtY-00071-00018460-00018756 horsepower 11 kilowatts 3 cylinder at A1YzcJvMFtY-00072-00018757-00019158 500 pounds 50,000 pounds in 2014 a 20 A1YzcJvMFtY-00073-00019159-00019460 horsepower 15 kilowatts 4-cylinder at A1YzcJvMFtY-00074-00019461-00019893 650 pounds 60,000 pounds in 2014 a 30 A1YzcJvMFtY-00075-00019894-00020202 horsepower 22 kilowatts six-cylinder A1YzcJvMFtY-00076-00020203-00020544 model priced at 890 pounds 90,000 pounds A1YzcJvMFtY-00077-00020545-00020790 in 2014 all would be badged as Rolls A1YzcJvMFtY-00078-00020791-00021062 Royces and be sold exclusively by rolls A1YzcJvMFtY-00079-00021063-00021321 the first Rolls Royce car the A1YzcJvMFtY-00080-00021322-00021534 rolls-royce 10 horsepower was unveiled A1YzcJvMFtY-00081-00021535-00021839 at the Paris salon in December 1904 A1YzcJvMFtY-00082-00021840-00022116 rolls-royce Limited was formed on the A1YzcJvMFtY-00083-00022117-00022434 15th of March 1906 by which time it was A1YzcJvMFtY-00084-00022435-00022635 apparent that new premises were required A1YzcJvMFtY-00085-00022636-00022956 for production of cars after considering A1YzcJvMFtY-00086-00022957-00023226 sites in Manchester Coventry Bradford A1YzcJvMFtY-00087-00023227-00023388 and Leicester it was an offer from A1YzcJvMFtY-00088-00023389-00023574 Derby's Council of cheap electricity A1YzcJvMFtY-00089-00023575-00023790 that resulted in the decision to acquire A1YzcJvMFtY-00090-00023791-00024201 a 12.7 acres 51,000 square metres site A1YzcJvMFtY-00091-00024202-00024450 on the southern edge of that city the A1YzcJvMFtY-00092-00024451-00024644 new factory was largely designed by A1YzcJvMFtY-00093-00024645-00024944 Royce and production began in early 1908 A1YzcJvMFtY-00094-00024945-00025169 with a formal opening on the 9th of July A1YzcJvMFtY-00095-00025170-00025560 1908 by Sir John Montagu the investment A1YzcJvMFtY-00096-00025561-00025733 in the new company required further A1YzcJvMFtY-00097-00025735-00025964 capital to be raised and on the 6th of A1YzcJvMFtY-00098-00025966-00026289 December 1906 100,000 pounds of new A1YzcJvMFtY-00099-00026289-00026543 shares were offered to the public in A1YzcJvMFtY-00100-00026544-00027011 1907 rolls-royce pas tout CS rolls in Co A1YzcJvMFtY-00101-00027012-00027201 the non motorcar interests of Royce A1YzcJvMFtY-00102-00027202-00027915 limited continue to operate separately A1YzcJvMFtY-00103-00027916-00028567 topic rolls-royce 40 50th A1YzcJvMFtY-00104-00028568-00028899 during 1906 Royce had been developing an A1YzcJvMFtY-00105-00028900-00029104 improved six-cylinder model with more A1YzcJvMFtY-00106-00029105-00029390 power than the rolls-royce 30 horsepower A1YzcJvMFtY-00107-00029391-00029683 initially designated the 40 50th of a A1YzcJvMFtY-00108-00029683-00029767 horsepower A1YzcJvMFtY-00109-00029768-00029970 this was Rolls Royces first all new A1YzcJvMFtY-00110-00029972-00030279 model in March 1908 Claud Johnson A1YzcJvMFtY-00111-00030280-00030489 commercial managing director and A1YzcJvMFtY-00112-00030491-00030685 sometimes described as the - in A1YzcJvMFtY-00113-00030686-00030862 rolls-royce succeeded in persuading A1YzcJvMFtY-00114-00030863-00031081 Royce and the other directors that Rolls A1YzcJvMFtY-00115-00031082-00031302 Royce should concentrate exclusively on A1YzcJvMFtY-00116-00031303-00031495 the new model and all the earlier models A1YzcJvMFtY-00117-00031495-00031758 were duly discontinued the new 40 50th A1YzcJvMFtY-00118-00031760-00031987 was responsible for Rolls Royces early A1YzcJvMFtY-00119-00031988-00032211 reputation with over six thousand built A1YzcJvMFtY-00120-00032212-00032518 its chassis was used as a basis for the A1YzcJvMFtY-00121-00032519-00032727 first British armored car used in both A1YzcJvMFtY-00122-00032728-00033294 world wars A1YzcJvMFtY-00123-00033295-00033970 topic rolls-royce eagle arrow engine A1YzcJvMFtY-00124-00033971-00034324 arrow engine manufacturer began in 1914 A1YzcJvMFtY-00125-00034325-00034524 because the government requested it A1YzcJvMFtY-00126-00034525-00034819 rolls-royce's Eagle the first example A1YzcJvMFtY-00127-00034820-00035101 was made in 1915 was the first engine to A1YzcJvMFtY-00128-00035102-00035341 make a nonstop transatlantic crossing by A1YzcJvMFtY-00129-00035342-00035623 aeroplane when in June 1919 two eagles A1YzcJvMFtY-00130-00035624-00035794 powered the converted Vickers Vimy A1YzcJvMFtY-00131-00035795-00035995 bomber on the transatlantic flight of A1YzcJvMFtY-00132-00035996-00036256 Alcock and brown A1YzcJvMFtY-00133-00036257-00036592 topic Springfield USA in 1921 A1YzcJvMFtY-00134-00036593-00036799 rolls-royce open a new factory in A1YzcJvMFtY-00135-00036800-00036982 Springfield Massachusetts in the United A1YzcJvMFtY-00136-00036983-00037219 States to help meet demand where a A1YzcJvMFtY-00137-00037220-00037576 further 1701 Springfield ghosts were A1YzcJvMFtY-00138-00037577-00037876 built this factory operated for ten A1YzcJvMFtY-00139-00037877-00038278 years closing in 1931 it was located at A1YzcJvMFtY-00140-00038279-00038497 the former American wire wheel factory A1YzcJvMFtY-00141-00038498-00038716 on handi Street with the administration A1YzcJvMFtY-00142-00038717-00039082 offices at 54 Waltham evany Springfield A1YzcJvMFtY-00143-00039083-00039286 was the earlier location for the Duryea A1YzcJvMFtY-00144-00039287-00039520 motor wagon company the location where A1YzcJvMFtY-00145-00039521-00039679 the first American gasoline-powered A1YzcJvMFtY-00146-00039680-00040009 vehicle was built their first chassis A1YzcJvMFtY-00147-00040010-00040312 was completed in 1921 bodies were A1YzcJvMFtY-00148-00040313-00040546 supplied by rolls-royce custom coachwork A1YzcJvMFtY-00149-00040547-00040780 and by Brewster and Co in Long Island A1YzcJvMFtY-00150-00040781-00041348 City New York A1YzcJvMFtY-00151-00041349-00041947 topic rolls-royce 20 A1YzcJvMFtY-00152-00041948-00042168 after the first world war rolls-royce A1YzcJvMFtY-00153-00042169-00042379 successfully avoided attempts to A1YzcJvMFtY-00154-00042380-00042589 encourage British car manufacturers to A1YzcJvMFtY-00155-00042590-00042883 merge faced with falling sales of the A1YzcJvMFtY-00156-00042884-00043099 forty fiftieth Sleater known as silver A1YzcJvMFtY-00157-00043100-00043318 ghost rolls-royce introduced the smaller A1YzcJvMFtY-00158-00043319-00043648 cheaper 20 in 1922 effectively ending A1YzcJvMFtY-00159-00043649-00044429 the one model policy followed since 1908 A1YzcJvMFtY-00160-00044430-00045012 topic rolls-royce phantom A1YzcJvMFtY-00161-00045013-00045255 after the introduction of the phantom in A1YzcJvMFtY-00162-00045256-00045549 1925 the old forty fiftieth smaadahl was A1YzcJvMFtY-00163-00045550-00046206 referred to as the silver ghost A1YzcJvMFtY-00164-00046207-00046698 topic Bentley A1YzcJvMFtY-00165-00046699-00047058 in 1931 rolls-royce acquired Bentley the A1YzcJvMFtY-00166-00047059-00047274 small sports racing car maker and A1YzcJvMFtY-00167-00047275-00047460 potential rival after the latter's A1YzcJvMFtY-00168-00047461-00047667 finances failed to weather the onset of A1YzcJvMFtY-00169-00047668-00047955 the Great Depression rolls-royce stopped A1YzcJvMFtY-00170-00047956-00048143 production of the new big Bentley eight A1YzcJvMFtY-00171-00048144-00048342 leader which was threatening sales of A1YzcJvMFtY-00172-00048343-00048504 their current phantom disposed of A1YzcJvMFtY-00173-00048505-00048711 remaining Bentley assets and made use of A1YzcJvMFtY-00174-00048712-00049032 just a Bentley name in its repute after A1YzcJvMFtY-00175-00049033-00049196 some years of development rolls-royce A1YzcJvMFtY-00176-00049197-00049430 produced a new quite different ultra A1YzcJvMFtY-00177-00049431-00049614 civilized medium sized range of A1YzcJvMFtY-00178-00049615-00049890 Bentley's advertising them as the silent A1YzcJvMFtY-00179-00049891-00050174 sports car they were very much in the A1YzcJvMFtY-00180-00050175-00050427 rolls-royce mold from soon after world A1YzcJvMFtY-00181-00050428-00050745 war ii until 2002 standard Bentley and A1YzcJvMFtY-00182-00050746-00050955 rolls-royce cars were often very nearly A1YzcJvMFtY-00183-00050956-00051177 identical apart from the radiator grille A1YzcJvMFtY-00184-00051178-00051612 and minor details in 1933 the color of A1YzcJvMFtY-00185-00051613-00051819 the rolls-royce radiator monogram was A1YzcJvMFtY-00186-00051820-00052004 changed from red to black because the A1YzcJvMFtY-00187-00052005-00052149 Reds sometimes clashed with the A1YzcJvMFtY-00188-00052150-00052386 coachwork color selected by clients and A1YzcJvMFtY-00189-00052387-00052572 not as a mark of respect for the death A1YzcJvMFtY-00190-00052573-00053228 of Royce as is commonly stated A1YzcJvMFtY-00191-00053229-00053709 topic true A1YzcJvMFtY-00192-00053710-00053928 the British government built a shadow A1YzcJvMFtY-00193-00053929-00054204 factory in Crewe in 1938 for rolls-royce A1YzcJvMFtY-00194-00054204-00054399 where they could build their Merlin and A1YzcJvMFtY-00195-00054400-00054777 Griffon aero engines in 1946 car A1YzcJvMFtY-00196-00054778-00054975 production was moved therefore space to A1YzcJvMFtY-00197-00054976-00055158 construct bodies and to leave space for A1YzcJvMFtY-00198-00055159-00055454 aero engines at Derby the site was A1YzcJvMFtY-00199-00055455-00055782 bought from the government in 1973 it is A1YzcJvMFtY-00200-00055783-00056285 now Bentley crew A1YzcJvMFtY-00201-00056286-00056850 topic second-world will A1YzcJvMFtY-00202-00056851-00057135 in 1940 a contract was signed with the A1YzcJvMFtY-00203-00057136-00057356 packard motor car company in Detroit A1YzcJvMFtY-00204-00057357-00057551 Michigan for the production of Merlin A1YzcJvMFtY-00205-00057552-00057887 aero engines in the USA production A1YzcJvMFtY-00206-00057888-00058118 focused on aero engines but a variant of A1YzcJvMFtY-00207-00058119-00058299 the Merlin engine known as the meteor A1YzcJvMFtY-00208-00058300-00058521 was developed for the Cromwell tank A1YzcJvMFtY-00209-00058522-00058779 the meteors development completed in A1YzcJvMFtY-00210-00058779-00059073 1943 the same team at the Bell / foundry A1YzcJvMFtY-00211-00059074-00059288 restarted work on an eight cylinder car A1YzcJvMFtY-00212-00059289-00059499 engine widening its uses and it became A1YzcJvMFtY-00213-00059500-00059675 the pattern for the British Army's B A1YzcJvMFtY-00214-00059676-00059867 range of petrol engines for post-war A1YzcJvMFtY-00215-00059869-00060096 combat vehicles in particular in all A1YzcJvMFtY-00216-00060097-00060404 vistas FV 600 range Daimler's ferret A1YzcJvMFtY-00217-00060405-00060605 Humber's hornet and pig and austin's A1YzcJvMFtY-00218-00060607-00061159 champ A1YzcJvMFtY-00219-00061160-00062148 topic postwar diversification A1YzcJvMFtY-00220-00062149-00062710 topic motor bodies A1YzcJvMFtY-00221-00062711-00063057 after the war in 1946 rolls-royce and A1YzcJvMFtY-00222-00063058-00063259 Bentley car production moved to Crewe A1YzcJvMFtY-00223-00063260-00063441 where they began to assemble complete A1YzcJvMFtY-00224-00063442-00063669 Bentley cars with body pressings made by A1YzcJvMFtY-00225-00063670-00063963 pressed steel company previously they A1YzcJvMFtY-00226-00063964-00064165 had built only the chassis leaving the A1YzcJvMFtY-00227-00064166-00064473 bodies to specialists coachbuilders in A1YzcJvMFtY-00228-00064474-00064731 1939 rolls-royce Pratt one of the A1YzcJvMFtY-00229-00064732-00064926 specialists coachbuilders completely A1YzcJvMFtY-00230-00064927-00065137 in-house by buying the remaining capital A1YzcJvMFtY-00231-00065138-00065454 of Park Ward Limited which since 1936 in A1YzcJvMFtY-00232-00065455-00065644 conjunction with rolls-royce had been A1YzcJvMFtY-00233-00065645-00065809 building short production runs of A1YzcJvMFtY-00234-00065810-00065986 all-metal saloon bodies on Bentley A1YzcJvMFtY-00235-00065987-00066432 chassis in 1959 rolls-royce pot coach A1YzcJvMFtY-00236-00066433-00066628 builder HJ Mulliner and the two A1YzcJvMFtY-00237-00066629-00066847 businesses were put together as HJ A1YzcJvMFtY-00238-00066848-00067441 Mulliner Park ward A1YzcJvMFtY-00239-00067442-00068068 topic diesel engines Shrewsbury A1YzcJvMFtY-00240-00068069-00068317 luxury cars did not fit with the new A1YzcJvMFtY-00241-00068318-00068590 mood of post-war austerity after A1YzcJvMFtY-00242-00068591-00068791 starting design and development of what A1YzcJvMFtY-00243-00068792-00068995 became their C Series diesel engine A1YzcJvMFtY-00244-00068996-00069391 range in 1948 rolls-royce began to A1YzcJvMFtY-00245-00069392-00069853 produce diesel engines in 1951 by 1955 A1YzcJvMFtY-00246-00069854-00070042 it provided diesel engines for A1YzcJvMFtY-00247-00070043-00070234 automotive railway industrial A1YzcJvMFtY-00248-00070235-00070450 earthmoving and marine use Sentinel A1YzcJvMFtY-00249-00070451-00070803 Shrewsbury Limited was but in 1956 A1YzcJvMFtY-00250-00070804-00071032 Sentinel made machine tools in A1YzcJvMFtY-00251-00071033-00071314 industrial locomotives rolls-royce took A1YzcJvMFtY-00252-00071315-00071536 over sentinels Shrewsbury Factory for A1YzcJvMFtY-00253-00071537-00071710 diesel engine production and all its A1YzcJvMFtY-00254-00071711-00071923 diesel work was transferred there West A1YzcJvMFtY-00255-00071924-00072142 Riding manufacturer of diesel shunting A1YzcJvMFtY-00256-00072143-00072361 locomotives Thomas Hill rather am A1YzcJvMFtY-00257-00072362-00072664 limited was added to the group in 1963 A1YzcJvMFtY-00258-00072665-00073000 in 1973 when Shrewsbury activities were A1YzcJvMFtY-00259-00073001-00073162 put under the umbrella of new owner A1YzcJvMFtY-00260-00073163-00073411 rolls-royce motors the range of diesel A1YzcJvMFtY-00261-00073412-00073795 engines included see range four six and A1YzcJvMFtY-00262-00073796-00074011 eight cylinder engines with power output A1YzcJvMFtY-00263-00074012-00074464 from 100 to 450 bhp used in generating A1YzcJvMFtY-00264-00074465-00074749 sets compressors etc Construction A1YzcJvMFtY-00265-00074750-00074944 Equipment Railway and other industrial A1YzcJvMFtY-00266-00074945-00075319 purposes and marine propulsion Eagle a A1YzcJvMFtY-00267-00075320-00075499 modified version of the C range A1YzcJvMFtY-00268-00075500-00075730 six-cylinder engine named Eagle as used A1YzcJvMFtY-00269-00075731-00075994 in heavy vehicles their output 200 to A1YzcJvMFtY-00270-00075995-00076462 300 bhp derange V engines with outputs A1YzcJvMFtY-00271-00076463-00076864 from 400 to 750 bhp for generating sets A1YzcJvMFtY-00272-00076865-00077590 marine and railway applications A1YzcJvMFtY-00273-00077591-00078153 topic arrow engines A1YzcJvMFtY-00274-00078154-00078510 in 1907 Charles rolls whose interests A1YzcJvMFtY-00275-00078511-00078732 had turned increasingly to flying tried A1YzcJvMFtY-00276-00078733-00078954 unsuccessfully to persuade Royce and the A1YzcJvMFtY-00277-00078955-00079170 other directors to design an aero engine A1YzcJvMFtY-00278-00079171-00079443 when World War one broke out in August A1YzcJvMFtY-00279-00079444-00079749 1914 rolls-royce and many others were A1YzcJvMFtY-00280-00079750-00080067 taken by surprise as a manufacturer of A1YzcJvMFtY-00281-00080068-00080319 luxury cars Rolls Royce was immediately A1YzcJvMFtY-00282-00080320-00080541 vulnerable and Claud Johnson thought the A1YzcJvMFtY-00283-00080542-00080700 bank would withdraw its overdraft A1YzcJvMFtY-00284-00080701-00080925 facility on which Rolls Royce depended A1YzcJvMFtY-00285-00080926-00081135 at that time nevertheless A1YzcJvMFtY-00286-00081136-00081339 believing that war was likely to be A1YzcJvMFtY-00287-00081340-00081510 short-lived the directors initially A1YzcJvMFtY-00288-00081511-00081699 decided not to seek government work A1YzcJvMFtY-00289-00081700-00082002 making aero engines however this A1YzcJvMFtY-00290-00082003-00082215 position was quickly reversed and Rolls A1YzcJvMFtY-00291-00082216-00082449 Royce was persuaded by the War Office to A1YzcJvMFtY-00292-00082450-00082698 manufacture 50 air-cooled v8 engines A1YzcJvMFtY-00293-00082699-00082989 under license from Renault meanwhile the A1YzcJvMFtY-00294-00082990-00083193 royal aircraft Factory asked rolls-royce A1YzcJvMFtY-00295-00083194-00083550 to design a new 200 horsepower 150 A1YzcJvMFtY-00296-00083551-00083835 kilowatts engine despite initial A1YzcJvMFtY-00297-00083836-00084099 reluctance they agreed and during 1915 A1YzcJvMFtY-00298-00084100-00084342 developed Rolls Royces first aero engine A1YzcJvMFtY-00299-00084343-00084639 the 12 cylinder Eagle this was quickly A1YzcJvMFtY-00300-00084640-00084849 followed by the smaller six-cylinder A1YzcJvMFtY-00301-00084850-00085224 Hawk the 190 horsepower 140 kilowatts A1YzcJvMFtY-00302-00085225-00085437 falcon and just before the end of the A1YzcJvMFtY-00303-00085438-00085845 war the larger 675 horsepower 503 A1YzcJvMFtY-00304-00085846-00086172 kilowatts Condor throughout World War A1YzcJvMFtY-00305-00086173-00086238 one A1YzcJvMFtY-00306-00086239-00086415 Rolls Royce struggled to build aero A1YzcJvMFtY-00307-00086416-00086622 engines in the quantities required by A1YzcJvMFtY-00308-00086623-00086889 the War Office however with the A1YzcJvMFtY-00309-00086890-00087108 exception of Brazil Straker in Bristol A1YzcJvMFtY-00310-00087109-00087330 rolls-royce resisted pressure to license A1YzcJvMFtY-00311-00087331-00087477 production to other manufacturers A1YzcJvMFtY-00312-00087478-00087675 fearing that the engines much-admired A1YzcJvMFtY-00313-00087676-00087906 quality and reliability would risk being A1YzcJvMFtY-00314-00087907-00088028 compromised A1YzcJvMFtY-00315-00088029-00088308 instead the Derby factory was extended A1YzcJvMFtY-00316-00088309-00088512 to enable rolls-royce to increase its A1YzcJvMFtY-00317-00088513-00088827 own production rates by the late 1920s A1YzcJvMFtY-00318-00088828-00089073 aero engines made up most of Rolls A1YzcJvMFtY-00319-00089074-00089415 Royces business Henry Royce's last A1YzcJvMFtY-00320-00089416-00089637 design was the Merlin aero engine which A1YzcJvMFtY-00321-00089638-00089855 was first flown in prototype form in A1YzcJvMFtY-00322-00089856-00090294 1935 although he had died in 1933 this A1YzcJvMFtY-00323-00090295-00090489 was developed from the AR engine which A1YzcJvMFtY-00324-00090490-00090621 had powered a record-breaking A1YzcJvMFtY-00325-00090622-00090924 Supermarine s6b seaplane to almost 400 A1YzcJvMFtY-00326-00090925-00091386 miles per hour 640 km/h in the 1931 A1YzcJvMFtY-00327-00091387-00091549 schneider trophy A1YzcJvMFtY-00328-00091550-00091798 the Merlin was a powerful supercharged A1YzcJvMFtY-00329-00091799-00092011 v12 engine and was fitted into many A1YzcJvMFtY-00330-00092012-00092248 World War 2 aircraft the British Hawker A1YzcJvMFtY-00331-00092249-00092503 hurricane Supermarine Spitfire de A1YzcJvMFtY-00332-00092504-00092731 Havilland Mosquito twin-engine Avro A1YzcJvMFtY-00333-00092732-00092971 Lancaster for engine a development of A1YzcJvMFtY-00334-00092972-00093187 the Avro Manchester with its unreliable A1YzcJvMFtY-00335-00093188-00093394 rolls-royce vulture engines Vickers A1YzcJvMFtY-00336-00093395-00093595 Wellington twin-engine it also A1YzcJvMFtY-00337-00093596-00093805 transformed the American North American A1YzcJvMFtY-00338-00093806-00094069 p-51 Mustang into a competitor for the A1YzcJvMFtY-00339-00094070-00094279 best fighter of its time its engine a A1YzcJvMFtY-00340-00094280-00094474 Merlin engine built by Packard under A1YzcJvMFtY-00341-00094475-00094891 licence over 160,000 Merlin engines were A1YzcJvMFtY-00342-00094892-00095134 produced including over 30,000 by the A1YzcJvMFtY-00343-00095135-00095338 Ford Motor Company at Trafford Park A1YzcJvMFtY-00344-00095339-00095614 Manchester during the war most A1YzcJvMFtY-00345-00095615-00095830 rolls-royce flight testing of engines A1YzcJvMFtY-00346-00095831-00096037 was carried out from Hucknall aerodrome A1YzcJvMFtY-00347-00096038-00096295 the Merlin crossed over into military A1YzcJvMFtY-00348-00096296-00096553 land vehicle use as the meteor powering A1YzcJvMFtY-00349-00096554-00096841 the Centurion tank among others many A1YzcJvMFtY-00350-00096842-00097051 meteor engines used engine blocks and A1YzcJvMFtY-00351-00097052-00097216 parts that failed requirements for A1YzcJvMFtY-00352-00097217-00097393 high-performance engines but were A1YzcJvMFtY-00353-00097394-00097654 suitable for use in the d rated 480 A1YzcJvMFtY-00354-00097655-00097998 kilowatts 640 horsepower meteor A1YzcJvMFtY-00355-00097999-00098278 rolls-royce came in two jet turbines A1YzcJvMFtY-00356-00098279-00098500 through an exchange of assets with rover A1YzcJvMFtY-00357-00098501-00098656 and in the post-world War two period A1YzcJvMFtY-00358-00098657-00098947 Rolls Royce made significant advances in A1YzcJvMFtY-00359-00098948-00099118 gas turbine engine design and A1YzcJvMFtY-00360-00099119-00099424 manufacture the dart and Tyne turboprop A1YzcJvMFtY-00361-00099425-00099622 engines were particularly important A1YzcJvMFtY-00362-00099623-00099835 enabling Airlines to cut times for A1YzcJvMFtY-00363-00099836-00100027 shorter journeys whilst jet airliners A1YzcJvMFtY-00364-00100028-00100318 were introduced on longer services the A1YzcJvMFtY-00365-00100319-00100498 dart engine was used in armstrong A1YzcJvMFtY-00366-00100499-00100998 whitworth 0.66 0 Argosy avro 748 fokker A1YzcJvMFtY-00367-00100999-00101302 f27 friendship handley page Herald & A1YzcJvMFtY-00368-00101303-00101506 Vickers Viscount aircraft whilst the A1YzcJvMFtY-00369-00101507-00101698 more powerful time powered the Brigid A1YzcJvMFtY-00370-00101699-00102079 Atlantique transall c-160 short Belfast A1YzcJvMFtY-00371-00102080-00102310 and Vickers Vanguard and the senior and A1YzcJvMFtY-00372-00102311-00102631 for hovercraft many of these turboprops A1YzcJvMFtY-00373-00102632-00102860 are still in service A1YzcJvMFtY-00374-00102861-00103103 amongst the jet engines of this period A1YzcJvMFtY-00375-00103104-00103451 was the RB 163 spay which powers the A1YzcJvMFtY-00376-00103452-00103685 hawker siddeley trident BAC one-eleven A1YzcJvMFtY-00377-00103686-00103991 grumman gulfstream 2 and fokker f28 A1YzcJvMFtY-00378-00103992-00104373 fellowship during the late 1950s and A1YzcJvMFtY-00379-00104374-00104594 1960s there was a significant A1YzcJvMFtY-00380-00104595-00104796 rationalization of all aspects of A1YzcJvMFtY-00381-00104797-00105018 british aerospace and this included aero A1YzcJvMFtY-00382-00105019-00105416 engine manufacturers in 1966 rolls-royce A1YzcJvMFtY-00383-00105417-00105651 acquired bristol siddeley which had A1YzcJvMFtY-00384-00105652-00105839 resulted from the merger of armstrong A1YzcJvMFtY-00385-00105840-00106049 siddeley and bristol aero engines in A1YzcJvMFtY-00386-00106050-00106338 1959 and incorporated it as the bristol A1YzcJvMFtY-00387-00106339-00106628 siddeley division bristol siddeley with A1YzcJvMFtY-00388-00106629-00106838 its principal factory at Filton near A1YzcJvMFtY-00389-00106839-00107073 bristol had a strong base in military A1YzcJvMFtY-00390-00107074-00107288 engines including the olympus viper A1YzcJvMFtY-00391-00107289-00107666 pegasus vectored thrust and Orpheus they A1YzcJvMFtY-00392-00107667-00107938 were also manufacturing the olympus 593 A1YzcJvMFtY-00393-00107939-00108297 MK 610 to be used in concorde in A1YzcJvMFtY-00394-00108298-00108608 collaboration with Snecma they also had A1YzcJvMFtY-00395-00108609-00108963 a turbofan project with Snecma Leavesden A1YzcJvMFtY-00396-00108964-00109206 aerodrome Watford was originally owned A1YzcJvMFtY-00397-00109207-00109391 by the Ministry of Defence and used A1YzcJvMFtY-00398-00109392-00109616 during World War 2 for the manufacture A1YzcJvMFtY-00399-00109617-00109932 of mosquito and Halifax aircraft for a A1YzcJvMFtY-00400-00109933-00110148 number of years rolls-royce used the A1YzcJvMFtY-00401-00110149-00110360 site for the manufacture of helicopter A1YzcJvMFtY-00402-00110361-00110556 engines until the site closed in June A1YzcJvMFtY-00403-00110557-00110943 1993 the former rolls-royce Factory at A1YzcJvMFtY-00404-00110944-00111123 Watford is now known as the Leavesden A1YzcJvMFtY-00405-00111124-00111290 film studios and has produced A1YzcJvMFtY-00406-00111291-00111531 world-famous films including the James A1YzcJvMFtY-00407-00111532-00111964 Bond Star Wars and Harry Potter series A1YzcJvMFtY-00408-00111965-00112441 topic rb211 the 1971 receivership and A1YzcJvMFtY-00409-00112442-00112666 nationalization the amalgamations and A1YzcJvMFtY-00410-00112667-00112908 disappearances of the 1950s and 1960s A1YzcJvMFtY-00411-00112908-00113179 left a small number of major airframe A1YzcJvMFtY-00412-00113180-00113379 manufacturers based in only a few A1YzcJvMFtY-00413-00113380-00113658 countries the competition for the very A1YzcJvMFtY-00414-00113659-00113875 large contracts to supply their engines A1YzcJvMFtY-00415-00113876-00114181 grew intense expensive research and A1YzcJvMFtY-00416-00114182-00114454 development became vital real profits A1YzcJvMFtY-00417-00114455-00114631 came from the maintenance contracts A1YzcJvMFtY-00418-00114632-00114775 which might peak a whole human A1YzcJvMFtY-00419-00114776-00115099 generation later by the 1980s it was A1YzcJvMFtY-00420-00115100-00115279 said that each generation of aero A1YzcJvMFtY-00421-00115280-00115495 engines cost around ten times that of A1YzcJvMFtY-00422-00115496-00115659 its parent at this time rolls-royce A1YzcJvMFtY-00423-00115660-00115903 employed 80,000 people and it was A1YzcJvMFtY-00424-00115904-00116143 Britain's 14th largest company in terms A1YzcJvMFtY-00425-00116144-00116413 of manpower it was generally known that A1YzcJvMFtY-00426-00116414-00116634 problems had recently arisen requiring A1YzcJvMFtY-00427-00116635-00116953 government support of the rb211 program A1YzcJvMFtY-00428-00116954-00117157 as one outcome of intense financial A1YzcJvMFtY-00429-00117158-00117346 competition with Pratt & Whitney and A1YzcJvMFtY-00430-00117347-00117624 General Electric for the original rb211 A1YzcJvMFtY-00431-00117625-00117913 contract in the New Year of 1971 A1YzcJvMFtY-00432-00117914-00118129 financial problems caused largely by A1YzcJvMFtY-00433-00118130-00118468 development of this new rb211 turbofan A1YzcJvMFtY-00434-00118469-00118621 engine designed and developed for A1YzcJvMFtY-00435-00118622-00118852 lockheed aircraft corporation's new L A1YzcJvMFtY-00436-00118853-00119136 101 one Tristar led after several A1YzcJvMFtY-00437-00119138-00119353 government provided cash subsidies to A1YzcJvMFtY-00438-00119354-00119533 the recognition rolls-royce had no A1YzcJvMFtY-00439-00119533-00119731 resources left and it voluntarily A1YzcJvMFtY-00440-00119732-00119964 entered receivership the 4th of February A1YzcJvMFtY-00441-00119965-00120190 1971 there were said to have been A1YzcJvMFtY-00442-00120191-00120421 acrimonious telephone conversations A1YzcJvMFtY-00443-00120422-00120652 between US President Richard Nixon and A1YzcJvMFtY-00444-00120653-00120838 the British prime minister Edward Heath A1YzcJvMFtY-00445-00120839-00121058 but these were subsequently denied A1YzcJvMFtY-00446-00121059-00121279 responding to questions as to how the A1YzcJvMFtY-00447-00121280-00121465 situation could have arisen the chief A1YzcJvMFtY-00448-00121466-00121633 executive advised that in their A1YzcJvMFtY-00449-00121633-00121804 calculations they were guided by the A1YzcJvMFtY-00450-00121805-00121969 success of their estimates in the A1YzcJvMFtY-00451-00121970-00122146 launching of their span jiin had the A1YzcJvMFtY-00452-00122147-00122299 government simply nationalized A1YzcJvMFtY-00453-00122300-00122473 rolls-royce it would have been unable to A1YzcJvMFtY-00454-00122474-00122709 avoid the obligations to lockheed the A1YzcJvMFtY-00455-00122710-00122899 situation was handled in the usual A1YzcJvMFtY-00456-00122900-00123100 manner with the assets being sold for A1YzcJvMFtY-00457-00123101-00123289 cash in this case to the government A1YzcJvMFtY-00458-00123290-00123486 leaving the massive liabilities to be A1YzcJvMFtY-00459-00123488-00123708 dealt with by rolls-royce limited using A1YzcJvMFtY-00460-00123709-00123973 the funds realized by the sale however A1YzcJvMFtY-00461-00123974-00124185 the government would not fix a purchase A1YzcJvMFtY-00462-00124186-00124375 price for the assets until the situation A1YzcJvMFtY-00463-00124376-00124566 became clearer because without a A1YzcJvMFtY-00464-00124567-00124765 continuing business many of them might A1YzcJvMFtY-00465-00124766-00125016 be worthless in the meantime the A1YzcJvMFtY-00466-00125017-00125173 government would use the assets to A1YzcJvMFtY-00467-00125174-00125350 continue the activities of the aero A1YzcJvMFtY-00468-00125351-00125608 engine marine and industrial gas turbine A1YzcJvMFtY-00469-00125608-00125784 and small engine divisions that were A1YzcJvMFtY-00470-00125785-00125980 important to national defense the A1YzcJvMFtY-00471-00125981-00126118 collective programmes with other A1YzcJvMFtY-00472-00126119-00126325 countries into many Air Force's and A1YzcJvMFtY-00473-00126326-00126735 civil Airlines a new company 1971 was A1YzcJvMFtY-00474-00126736-00126891 incorporated that made a purchase A1YzcJvMFtY-00475-00126892-00127051 substantially the whole of the A1YzcJvMFtY-00476-00127052-00127246 undertakings and assets of the four A1YzcJvMFtY-00477-00127247-00127447 divisions of rolls-royce connected with A1YzcJvMFtY-00478-00127448-00127765 gas turbine engines the original company A1YzcJvMFtY-00479-00127766-00127983 rolls-royce Limited was placed in A1YzcJvMFtY-00480-00127984-00128278 liquidation on the 4th of October 1971 A1YzcJvMFtY-00481-00128279-00128479 asking their own government for support A1YzcJvMFtY-00482-00128480-00128671 black he'd warned that a switch to A1YzcJvMFtY-00483-00128672-00128839 either Pratt & Whitney or General A1YzcJvMFtY-00484-00128840-00129001 Electric engines would delay production A1YzcJvMFtY-00485-00129002-00129238 by an extra six months and might force A1YzcJvMFtY-00486-00129239-00129451 Lockheed into bankruptcy the receiver A1YzcJvMFtY-00487-00129452-00129688 negotiated with Lockheed which consented A1YzcJvMFtY-00488-00129689-00129880 to waive damages allowing the plant to A1YzcJvMFtY-00489-00129881-00130174 be shut down the continuing support of A1YzcJvMFtY-00490-00130175-00130381 the trade creditors was also achieved by A1YzcJvMFtY-00491-00130382-00130555 the receiver in spite of threats to A1YzcJvMFtY-00492-00130556-00130777 demand immediate payment sinful and to A1YzcJvMFtY-00493-00130778-00131089 withdraw supplies the first asset sold A1YzcJvMFtY-00494-00131090-00131302 was British Aircraft Corporation but A1YzcJvMFtY-00495-00131303-00131593 equally by Vickers and GE see the A1YzcJvMFtY-00496-00131594-00131847 receiver floated rolls-royce motors in A1YzcJvMFtY-00497-00131848-00132392 1973 A1YzcJvMFtY-00498-00132393-00132901 topic new board A1YzcJvMFtY-00499-00132902-00133297 the new owner rolls-royce 1971 limited A1YzcJvMFtY-00500-00133298-00133528 had among its board members Lord Cole a A1YzcJvMFtY-00501-00133529-00133762 former chairman of Unilever sir Arnold A1YzcJvMFtY-00502-00133763-00134062 Weinstock managing director of GE see Q A1YzcJvMFtY-00503-00134063-00134326 Conway managing director rolls-royce gas A1YzcJvMFtY-00504-00134327-00134536 turbines dr. Stanley hooker A1YzcJvMFtY-00505-00134537-00134788 rolls-royce Bristol Sir William cook an A1YzcJvMFtY-00506-00134789-00135019 adviser to the minister of defense sir A1YzcJvMFtY-00507-00135020-00135244 st. John L Stubb managing director of A1YzcJvMFtY-00508-00135245-00135451 Imperial metal industries and Sir A1YzcJvMFtY-00509-00135452-00135664 Charles L worthy former Chief of Defence A1YzcJvMFtY-00510-00135665-00136216 Staff A1YzcJvMFtY-00511-00136217-00136895 topic black heat and rolls-royce takeoff A1YzcJvMFtY-00512-00136896-00137179 the new aircraft with its three rb211 A1YzcJvMFtY-00513-00137180-00137486 engines left USA for the first time and A1YzcJvMFtY-00514-00137487-00137786 arrived in Paris on the 1st of June 1971 A1YzcJvMFtY-00515-00137787-00138161 at Palmdale California the L 101 one A1YzcJvMFtY-00516-00138162-00138361 received its US Federal Aviation A1YzcJvMFtY-00517-00138362-00138542 Administration's certificate of A1YzcJvMFtY-00518-00138543-00138845 airworthiness on the 14th of April 1972 A1YzcJvMFtY-00519-00138846-00139181 nine months late on the day the chairman A1YzcJvMFtY-00520-00139182-00139419 of Lockheed said A1YzcJvMFtY-00521-00139420-00139698 less than pre greater than slash pre A1YzcJvMFtY-00522-00139699-00139953 greater than dot-dot-dot we know that an A1YzcJvMFtY-00523-00139954-00140307 airline service at rb211 will prove A1YzcJvMFtY-00524-00140308-00140499 itself to be one of the leading power A1YzcJvMFtY-00525-00140500-00140856 plants in aviation history the first A1YzcJvMFtY-00526-00140857-00141042 airliner was delivered to Eastern A1YzcJvMFtY-00527-00141043-00141363 Airlines on the 5th of April 1972 but it A1YzcJvMFtY-00528-00141364-00141498 had been beaten in the race to A1YzcJvMFtY-00529-00141499-00142286 production by McDonnell Douglas dc-10 A1YzcJvMFtY-00530-00142287-00142848 topic 1973 rolls-royce motors A1YzcJvMFtY-00531-00142849-00143059 you A1YzcJvMFtY-00532-00143060-00143281 rolls-royce motors limited was A1YzcJvMFtY-00533-00143282-00143599 incorporated on the 25th of April 1971 A1YzcJvMFtY-00534-00143600-00143812 two and a half months after rolls-royce A1YzcJvMFtY-00535-00143813-00144102 fell into receivership under the A1YzcJvMFtY-00536-00144103-00144300 ownership of the receiver it began to A1YzcJvMFtY-00537-00144301-00144619 trade in April 1971 manufacturing motor A1YzcJvMFtY-00538-00144620-00144898 cars diesel and petrol engines coachwork A1YzcJvMFtY-00539-00144899-00145125 and other items previously made by Rolls A1YzcJvMFtY-00540-00145126-00145372 Royces motor car and diesel divisions in A1YzcJvMFtY-00541-00145373-00145662 Mulliner Park ward it continued to take A1YzcJvMFtY-00542-00145663-00145836 precision engineering work on A1YzcJvMFtY-00543-00145837-00146218 subcontracts in June 1971 it acquired A1YzcJvMFtY-00544-00146219-00146431 all the business and assets used by the A1YzcJvMFtY-00545-00146432-00146623 motor car and diesel divisions of A1YzcJvMFtY-00546-00146624-00146820 rolls-royce and Mulliner Park ward A1YzcJvMFtY-00547-00146821-00147121 rolls-royce motors permitted uses of the A1YzcJvMFtY-00548-00147122-00147343 various rolls-royce trademarks was very A1YzcJvMFtY-00549-00147344-00147651 precisely defined at the end of 1972 A1YzcJvMFtY-00550-00147652-00147849 rolls-royce motors employees in the A1YzcJvMFtY-00551-00147850-00148215 United Kingdom were 5855 in the car A1YzcJvMFtY-00552-00148216-00148558 division in 2311 in the diesel division A1YzcJvMFtY-00553-00148559-00149020 a total of 8,000 166 people in May 1973 A1YzcJvMFtY-00554-00149021-00149233 it was sold to rolls-royce motors A1YzcJvMFtY-00555-00149234-00149446 Holdings Limited in preparation for its A1YzcJvMFtY-00556-00149447-00150037 public flotation A1YzcJvMFtY-00557-00150038-00150576 topic card division A1YzcJvMFtY-00558-00150577-00150834 at that time the car division as well as A1YzcJvMFtY-00559-00150835-00151026 making cars and special coach work A1YzcJvMFtY-00560-00151027-00151233 carried out Investment foundry work in A1YzcJvMFtY-00561-00151234-00151440 the machining of aero engine components A1YzcJvMFtY-00562-00151441-00151614 and produced piston engines for light A1YzcJvMFtY-00563-00151615-00151818 aircraft together with other petrol and A1YzcJvMFtY-00564-00151819-00152094 multi fuel engines both divisions A1YzcJvMFtY-00565-00152095-00152328 carried out development work for HM A1YzcJvMFtY-00566-00152329-00152595 government the car divisions A1YzcJvMFtY-00567-00152596-00152778 headquarters were in Pimm's Lane and A1YzcJvMFtY-00568-00152779-00152979 Mitchell new road crew bespoke A1YzcJvMFtY-00569-00152980-00153186 coachbuilding remained in Hyde Road and A1YzcJvMFtY-00570-00153187-00153450 high road Willesden London the crew A1YzcJvMFtY-00571-00153451-00153663 former shadow factory premises were A1YzcJvMFtY-00572-00153664-00154315 bought from the government at this time A1YzcJvMFtY-00573-00154316-00154870 topic diesel division A1YzcJvMFtY-00574-00154871-00155112 the diesel division made several types A1YzcJvMFtY-00575-00155113-00155316 of diesel engine at its premises in A1YzcJvMFtY-00576-00155317-00155533 which Church Road Shrewsbury as well as A1YzcJvMFtY-00577-00155534-00155739 combustion equipment for arrow turbine A1YzcJvMFtY-00578-00155740-00156227 engines rolls-royce motors products A1YzcJvMFtY-00579-00156228-00156714 motorcars diesel engines aero turbine A1YzcJvMFtY-00580-00156715-00156922 engine components and aircraft piston A1YzcJvMFtY-00581-00156923-00157233 engines mainly for rolls-royce 1971 A1YzcJvMFtY-00582-00157234-00157548 other engines and products be range of A1YzcJvMFtY-00583-00157549-00157899 six and eight cylinder petrol engines k A1YzcJvMFtY-00584-00157900-00158233 range of multi fuel engines various A1YzcJvMFtY-00585-00158234-00158398 transmissions for fighting and other A1YzcJvMFtY-00586-00158399-00158724 vehicles diesel shunting locomotives A1YzcJvMFtY-00587-00158725-00159268 Thomas Hill Rotherham A1YzcJvMFtY-00588-00159269-00159612 topic flotation of rolls-royce motors A1YzcJvMFtY-00589-00159613-00160004 holdings A1YzcJvMFtY-00590-00160005-00160238 in the event the flotation met with a A1YzcJvMFtY-00591-00160239-00160443 disappointing public response and more A1YzcJvMFtY-00592-00160444-00160668 than 80% of the issue was left in the A1YzcJvMFtY-00593-00160669-00161273 hands of the underwriters A1YzcJvMFtY-00594-00161274-00161865 topic vicar's limited merger A1YzcJvMFtY-00595-00161866-00162133 on the 6th of August 1980 the A1YzcJvMFtY-00596-00162134-00162315 shareholders agreement to the merger of A1YzcJvMFtY-00597-00162316-00162534 rolls-royce motors holdings and Vickers A1YzcJvMFtY-00598-00162535-00163185 Limited became unconditional A1YzcJvMFtY-00599-00163186-00163697 topic Perkins A1YzcJvMFtY-00600-00163698-00163937 the rolls-royce diesel business was A1YzcJvMFtY-00601-00163938-00164277 acquired from Vickers in 1984 by Perkins A1YzcJvMFtY-00602-00164278-00164512 Perkins further developed the Eagle A1YzcJvMFtY-00603-00164513-00164750 Diesel's into the perkins TX series of A1YzcJvMFtY-00604-00164751-00165312 engines A1YzcJvMFtY-00605-00165313-00165906 topic 1977 rolls-royce trops 1971 from A1YzcJvMFtY-00606-00165907-00166345 its name A1YzcJvMFtY-00607-00166346-00166732 the name of rolls-royce 1971 limited was A1YzcJvMFtY-00608-00166733-00166927 changed to rolls-royce limited on the A1YzcJvMFtY-00609-00166928-00167251 31st of December 1977 the end of the A1YzcJvMFtY-00610-00167252-00167542 company's financial year the original A1YzcJvMFtY-00611-00167543-00167836 rolls-royce Limited incorporated in 1906 A1YzcJvMFtY-00612-00167837-00168022 and still in liquidation had been A1YzcJvMFtY-00613-00168023-00168262 renamed rolls-royce realizations limited A1YzcJvMFtY-00614-00168263-00168579 and had consented in March 1977 to that A1YzcJvMFtY-00615-00168580-00168817 1971 company being named rolls-royce A1YzcJvMFtY-00616-00168818-00169102 limited Limited was replaced by PLC A1YzcJvMFtY-00617-00169103-00169336 public limited company in the summer of A1YzcJvMFtY-00618-00169337-00169594 1986 the shares could be offered to the A1YzcJvMFtY-00619-00169595-00170306 public and traded on share markets A1YzcJvMFtY-00620-00170307-00170999 topic 1987 privatization A1YzcJvMFtY-00621-00171000-00171329 in April 1987 the government offered for A1YzcJvMFtY-00622-00171330-00171665 sale all rolls-royce PLC shares the A1YzcJvMFtY-00623-00171666-00171839 heavily advertised issue was a A1YzcJvMFtY-00624-00171840-00172091 remarkable success Rolls Royces was an A1YzcJvMFtY-00625-00172092-00172403 exceptionally long term business before A1YzcJvMFtY-00626-00172404-00172592 a civil aero engine went into service A1YzcJvMFtY-00627-00172593-00172796 its development could take four to six A1YzcJvMFtY-00628-00172797-00173098 years military engines often longer A1YzcJvMFtY-00629-00173099-00173327 production might then extend a further A1YzcJvMFtY-00630-00173328-00173552 50 years including the manufacture of A1YzcJvMFtY-00631-00173553-00173783 spare parts required long after complete A1YzcJvMFtY-00632-00173784-00174403 engine production ends A1YzcJvMFtY-00633-00174404-00174923 topic customers A1YzcJvMFtY-00634-00174924-00175154 according to the prospectus published A1YzcJvMFtY-00635-00175155-00175436 for the 1987 issue of shares to members A1YzcJvMFtY-00636-00175437-00175625 of the public Rolls Royce was by then A1YzcJvMFtY-00637-00175626-00175838 one of only three enterprises outside A1YzcJvMFtY-00638-00175839-00176114 USSR and China able to design develop A1YzcJvMFtY-00639-00176115-00176393 and produce large gas turbine engines at A1YzcJvMFtY-00640-00176394-00176636 that time its engines were installed in A1YzcJvMFtY-00641-00176637-00176894 the aircraft of more than 270 civil A1YzcJvMFtY-00642-00176895-00177137 carriers and were used by 110 Armed A1YzcJvMFtY-00643-00177138-00177425 Services and 700 operators of executive A1YzcJvMFtY-00644-00177426-00177641 and corporate aircraft in addition its A1YzcJvMFtY-00645-00177642-00177896 turbines powered the naval vessels of 25 A1YzcJvMFtY-00646-00177897-00178316 different nations over 175 industrial A1YzcJvMFtY-00647-00178317-00178529 customers operated rolls-royce gas A1YzcJvMFtY-00648-00178530-00178781 turbines for power generation gas and A1YzcJvMFtY-00649-00178782-00178916 oil pumping and other industrial A1YzcJvMFtY-00650-00178917-00179243 purposes it's single most important A1YzcJvMFtY-00651-00179244-00179432 customer was the United Kingdom's A1YzcJvMFtY-00652-00179433-00179675 government in the preceding five years A1YzcJvMFtY-00653-00179676-00179957 about 70% of production went outside the A1YzcJvMFtY-00654-00179958-00180209 United Kingdom A1YzcJvMFtY-00655-00180210-00180434 topic competition Rolls Royces A1YzcJvMFtY-00656-00180435-00180697 competitors were GE and Pratt & Whitney A1YzcJvMFtY-00657-00180698-00181061 UTC aero engines were then only a part A1YzcJvMFtY-00658-00181062-00181304 of GE and UTC activities as major A1YzcJvMFtY-00659-00181305-00181661 industrial groups others included Snecma A1YzcJvMFtY-00660-00181662-00182009 turbomeca MTU Fiat Aviat C owned a in A1YzcJvMFtY-00661-00182010-00182279 Europe and USA Zebco Garrett and General A1YzcJvMFtY-00662-00182280-00182567 Motors Allison in spite of it being an A1YzcJvMFtY-00663-00182568-00182783 exceptionally competitive field a number A1YzcJvMFtY-00664-00182784-00182951 of the smaller manufacturers were A1YzcJvMFtY-00665-00182952-00183194 already in collaboration with GE R with A1YzcJvMFtY-00666-00183195-00183419 other smaller manufacturers as was Rolls A1YzcJvMFtY-00667-00183420-00183632 Royce A1YzcJvMFtY-00668-00183633-00183878 topic divisions and products at that A1YzcJvMFtY-00669-00183879-00184115 time rolls-royce was organized into five A1YzcJvMFtY-00670-00184116-00184493 business groups one I see eg civil arrow A1YzcJvMFtY-00671-00184494-00184733 demand governed by airline activity and A1YzcJvMFtY-00672-00184734-00185021 profitability major engines in 1987 A1YzcJvMFtY-00673-00185022-00185795 rb211 - 524 535 series iae v2500 for A1YzcJvMFtY-00674-00185796-00186079 airbus a320 a consortium of rolls-royce A1YzcJvMFtY-00675-00186080-00186694 30% pratt & whitney 30% j AEC 23% MTU A1YzcJvMFtY-00676-00186695-00187064 11% and Fiat 6% a a development of the A1YzcJvMFtY-00677-00187065-00187226 space super fan engines out of A1YzcJvMFtY-00678-00187227-00187442 production but generating a significant A1YzcJvMFtY-00679-00187443-00187774 demand for spare save on 1951 Conway A1YzcJvMFtY-00680-00187775-00188624 1960 dart 1953 olympus 593 1976 rb211 22 A1YzcJvMFtY-00681-00188625-00189302 B 1972 Spade 1964 tie-in 1 9 6 o to make A1YzcJvMFtY-00682-00189303-00189545 military Aero demand had been stable A1YzcJvMFtY-00683-00189546-00189755 recently and so of major importance to A1YzcJvMFtY-00684-00189756-00190196 rolls-royce major engines in 1987 RB 199 A1YzcJvMFtY-00685-00190197-00190451 Pegasus with vectored thrust for VTOL A1YzcJvMFtY-00686-00190452-00190730 combat aircraft adorn space vipers ela A1YzcJvMFtY-00687-00190731-00191153 copter engine sown gem RTM 322 ej200 A1YzcJvMFtY-00688-00191154-00191531 missile engine sedan 3i NM industrial A1YzcJvMFtY-00689-00191532-00191744 and marine Aero derived gas turbine A1YzcJvMFtY-00690-00191745-00192041 engines for repair and overhaul 5 A1YzcJvMFtY-00691-00192042-00192338 nuclear submarine steam raising A1YzcJvMFtY-00692-00192339-00192721 equipment together with these services A1YzcJvMFtY-00693-00192722-00193484 supply corporate engineering A1YzcJvMFtY-00694-00193485-00194360 topic products A1YzcJvMFtY-00695-00194361-00194875 topic cars A1YzcJvMFtY-00696-00194876-00195121 chassis Olli no rolls-royce built A1YzcJvMFtY-00697-00195122-00195433 rolls-royce body until silver done 1904 A1YzcJvMFtY-00698-00195434-00196128 206 10 horsepower 1905 205 15 horsepower A1YzcJvMFtY-00699-00196129-00196509 1905 208 20 horsepower A1YzcJvMFtY-00700-00196510-00196887 19050 630 horsepower A1YzcJvMFtY-00701-00196888-00197724 19050 6 v8 1906 225 40 50th Silver Ghost A1YzcJvMFtY-00702-00197725-00198295 1922 to twenty nine twenty 1925 to 2940 A1YzcJvMFtY-00703-00198296-00198769 50th phantom 1929 to 36 twenty twenty A1YzcJvMFtY-00704-00198770-00199570 fifths 1929 to 35 phantom 2 1936 238 25 A1YzcJvMFtY-00705-00199571-00200163 thirtieths 1936 239 phantom three A1YzcJvMFtY-00706-00200164-00200895 1938-39 Wraith 1946 to 59 Silver Wraith A1YzcJvMFtY-00707-00200896-00201190 1949 to fifty five silver done with A1YzcJvMFtY-00708-00201191-00201394 first factory bodies using panels A1YzcJvMFtY-00709-00201395-00201738 pressed by pressed steel company Cowley A1YzcJvMFtY-00710-00201739-00202179 1950 to 56 phantom IV nineteen A1YzcJvMFtY-00711-00202180-00202402 fifty-five to sixty five Silver Cloud A1YzcJvMFtY-00712-00202403-00202651 factory bodies using panels pressed by A1YzcJvMFtY-00713-00202652-00202946 pressed steel Coe A1YzcJvMFtY-00714-00202947-00203544 1959 to 68 phantom V 1965 to 80 silver A1YzcJvMFtY-00715-00203545-00203784 shadow monocoque integral body chassis A1YzcJvMFtY-00716-00203785-00204234 wholly built by rolls-royce 1968 to 92 A1YzcJvMFtY-00717-00204235-00204660 phantom V 1971 rolls-royce Corniche a A1YzcJvMFtY-00718-00204661-00205106 Bentley models from 1933 chassis Olli A1YzcJvMFtY-00719-00205107-00205688 1933 237 Bentley three and a half L 1936 A1YzcJvMFtY-00720-00205689-00206160 to 39 Bentley four in a quarter L 1939 A1YzcJvMFtY-00721-00206161-00206746 241 Bentley mark 5 A1YzcJvMFtY-00722-00206748-00207079 topic aircraft A1YzcJvMFtY-00723-00207080-00207273 you A1YzcJvMFtY-00724-00207275-00207542 rolls-royce trust measuring rigged A1YzcJvMFtY-00725-00207544-00208044 rolls-royce Mustang MK X A3Po9nd4nIu-00000-00000045-00001374 [Music] A3Po9nd4nIu-00001-00001375-00001678 if we wanted we could have A3Po9nd4nIu-00002-00001679-00002679 [Music] A3Po9nd4nIu-00003-00002680-00003351 we can make it if we want to A3Po9nd4nIu-00004-00003352-00003860 we've got to shake off this disease A3Po9nd4nIu-00005-00003861-00004109 [Music] A3Po9nd4nIu-00006-00004110-00004185 [Applause] A3Po9nd4nIu-00007-00004186-00004422 [Music] A3Po9nd4nIu-00008-00004423-00005130 something to take the place A3Po9nd4nIu-00009-00005131-00006347 [Music] A3Po9nd4nIu-00010-00006348-00006991 [Music] A3Po9nd4nIu-00011-00006992-00007614 threatened by every choice A3Po9nd4nIu-00012-00007615-00008387 [Music] A3Po9nd4nIu-00013-00008388-00008646 [Music] A3Po9nd4nIu-00014-00008647-00009148 why can't she sleep off this disease A3Po9nd4nIu-00015-00009149-00010206 [Music] A3Po9nd4nIu-00016-00010207-00010303 we A3Po9nd4nIu-00017-00010304-00010551 knew A3Po9nd4nIu-00018-00010552-00011713 it's true A3Po9nd4nIu-00019-00011714-00013407 [Music] A3Po9nd4nIu-00020-00013408-00014063 just the way it goes A3Po9nd4nIu-00021-00014063-00014419 just way it goes A3Po9nd4nIu-00022-00014419-00015703 [Music] A3Po9nd4nIu-00023-00015704-00017007 it's just A3Po9nd4nIu-00024-00017008-00017302 is A3Po9nd4nIu-00025-00017303-00018407 [Music] A3Po9nd4nIu-00026-00018408-00018681 the way it goes A3Po9nd4nIu-00027-00018682-00020494 [Music] A3Po9nd4nIu-00028-00020495-00020704 you A4yu-aBOOEk-00000-00000104-00000526 oh welcome to another demo dark and A4yu-aBOOEk-00001-00000527-00000839 darker indie game demo on the current A4yu-aBOOEk-00002-00000840-00001133 steam demo days I'm gonna show you A4yu-aBOOEk-00003-00001134-00001403 what's going on here in a second with A4yu-aBOOEk-00004-00001404-00001697 the Indie demos oh where's the website A4yu-aBOOEk-00005-00001698-00001967 here God damn it make it full no make it A4yu-aBOOEk-00006-00001968-00002284 four make it four make it four yeah for A4yu-aBOOEk-00007-00002285-00002597 sure that's the game called dark and A4yu-aBOOEk-00008-00002598-00002837 darker and unforgiving hardcore fantasy A4yu-aBOOEk-00009-00002838-00003274 FPS dungeon p v p e Adventure you can A4yu-aBOOEk-00010-00003275-00003454 play with multiple friends A4yu-aBOOEk-00011-00003455-00003754 and you can create a character that's A4yu-aBOOEk-00012-00003755-00004001 pretty much like what it's gonna look A4yu-aBOOEk-00013-00004002-00004175 like A4yu-aBOOEk-00014-00004176-00004415 looks to me picture-wise like a mix A4yu-aBOOEk-00015-00004416-00004745 between Dark Souls and Skyrim with A4yu-aBOOEk-00016-00004746-00004949 multiplayer gonna be interesting we're A4yu-aBOOEk-00017-00004950-00005159 gonna test it right now A4yu-aBOOEk-00018-00005160-00005375 there are a bunch of indie games on A4yu-aBOOEk-00019-00005376-00005854 Steam right now 6 till 13 February A4yu-aBOOEk-00020-00005855-00006154 in the dice that stores in the days I A4yu-aBOOEk-00021-00006155-00006418 was talking about and that's the game A4yu-aBOOEk-00022-00006419-00006701 we're gonna test right the hell no A4yu-aBOOEk-00023-00006702-00006928 talking docker A4yu-aBOOEk-00024-00006929-00007217 with creating character first there's no A4yu-aBOOEk-00025-00007218-00007433 music right now in the background we got A4yu-aBOOEk-00026-00007434-00007703 a fighter we get a barbarian we got a A4yu-aBOOEk-00027-00007704-00008027 roach slow assassin A4yu-aBOOEk-00028-00008028-00008417 Eric guardian angel A4yu-aBOOEk-00029-00008418-00008591 who is this A4yu-aBOOEk-00030-00008592-00008891 oh you're with her Terry A4yu-aBOOEk-00031-00008892-00009046 um definitely want to play a ranger but A4yu-aBOOEk-00032-00009047-00009233 wizard looks cool too A4yu-aBOOEk-00033-00009234-00009569 ah like bow and arrow though character A4yu-aBOOEk-00034-00009570-00009742 name A4yu-aBOOEk-00035-00009743-00009905 oh A4yu-aBOOEk-00036-00009906-00010349 blow his name is Paul blow I don't want A4yu-aBOOEk-00037-00010350-00010577 to read class infos you can read the A4yu-aBOOEk-00038-00010578-00010769 media because my screen is right in A4yu-aBOOEk-00039-00010770-00010883 front of you A4yu-aBOOEk-00040-00010884-00011363 sorry sorry can't read class in first A4yu-aBOOEk-00041-00011364-00012041 bone blow okay antelope A4yu-aBOOEk-00042-00012042-00012269 cannot play alone oh damn what the hell A4yu-aBOOEk-00043-00012270-00012713 is this oh today and what the hell yo A4yu-aBOOEk-00044-00012714-00013205 I'm already overwhelmed Merchant spoof A4yu-aBOOEk-00045-00013206-00013529 trade Gathering our customize A4yu-aBOOEk-00046-00013530-00013888 damn A4yu-aBOOEk-00047-00013890-00014147 boom I'm already overwhelmed A4yu-aBOOEk-00048-00014147-00014411 the hell is going on here A4yu-aBOOEk-00049-00014412-00014735 they have a lot of stuff in there A4yu-aBOOEk-00050-00014736-00014801 um A4yu-aBOOEk-00051-00014802-00015022 dungeon map A4yu-aBOOEk-00052-00015023-00015251 forget the castle normal A4yu-aBOOEk-00053-00015252-00015479 experimental A4yu-aBOOEk-00054-00015480-00015679 okay A4yu-aBOOEk-00055-00015680-00015988 there's a lot already to choose A4yu-aBOOEk-00056-00015990-00016175 did you check your Loadout once you A4yu-aBOOEk-00057-00016176-00016336 enter the tavern you cannot leave early A4yu-aBOOEk-00058-00016337-00016571 without losing your items are you sure A4yu-aBOOEk-00059-00016572-00016822 you want to enter match yes so this is A4yu-aBOOEk-00060-00016823-00017044 kind of like escape from tarkov please A4yu-aBOOEk-00061-00017045-00017399 select region A4yu-aBOOEk-00062-00017400-00017503 um A4yu-aBOOEk-00063-00017504-00017903 we're cut off we're gonna do that like A4yu-aBOOEk-00064-00017904-00018144 it's over there oh boy A4yu-aBOOEk-00065-00018145-00018365 frankfurtz yeah A4yu-aBOOEk-00066-00018366-00018677 front foot sounds fine to me A4yu-aBOOEk-00067-00018678-00018850 it's in Germany A4yu-aBOOEk-00068-00018851-00018971 start A4yu-aBOOEk-00069-00018972-00019399 yes yes yes yes just just A4yu-aBOOEk-00070-00019400-00019600 I'm probably can't play with a A4yu-aBOOEk-00071-00019601-00019769 controller right A4yu-aBOOEk-00072-00019770-00020003 they're already players next to me the A4yu-aBOOEk-00073-00020004-00020263 hell is going on even A4yu-aBOOEk-00074-00020264-00020627 okay that was a pretty Lodi Bree Load A4yu-aBOOEk-00075-00020628-00020903 Lobby so this is like escape from tarkov A4yu-aBOOEk-00076-00020904-00021485 mixed with Skyrim and Dark Souls A4yu-aBOOEk-00077-00021486-00021713 if I got that right A4yu-aBOOEk-00078-00021714-00021994 we're gonna realize that bro when we die A4yu-aBOOEk-00079-00021995-00022258 use your torch to light up dark areas A4yu-aBOOEk-00080-00022259-00022522 use the mouse right click to throw your A4yu-aBOOEk-00081-00022523-00022691 torch A4yu-aBOOEk-00082-00022692-00022853 oh damn there are different loading A4yu-aBOOEk-00083-00022854-00023117 screen tips loading screen looks cool A4yu-aBOOEk-00084-00023118-00023603 a portal closed a portal A4yu-aBOOEk-00085-00023604-00023783 Graphics loading in A4yu-aBOOEk-00086-00023784-00024064 I've Got No Loot that's a bat that's A4yu-aBOOEk-00087-00024065-00024347 gonna kill me A4yu-aBOOEk-00088-00024348-00024527 bow below A4yu-aBOOEk-00089-00024528-00024730 I feel like bow blow is not gonna make A4yu-aBOOEk-00090-00024731-00025261 it far A4yu-aBOOEk-00091-00025262-00026046 F4 from E for healing A4yu-aBOOEk-00092-00026047-00026623 oh I have a bad feeling I'm gonna die A4yu-aBOOEk-00093-00026624-00026962 yeah full blowers is not gonna make it A4yu-aBOOEk-00094-00026963-00027473 far no how do I close that again A4yu-aBOOEk-00095-00027474-00027781 let's see A4yu-aBOOEk-00096-00027782-00028199 I Got High Ground at least a flute A4yu-aBOOEk-00097-00028200-00028739 I can just A4yu-aBOOEk-00098-00028739-00028955 um you see God damn it I'm not used to A4yu-aBOOEk-00099-00028956-00029195 games with just a mouse and keyboard A4yu-aBOOEk-00100-00029195-00029387 giving me a weapon please A4yu-aBOOEk-00101-00029388-00029620 nope A4yu-aBOOEk-00102-00029622-00029874 gonna put that on A4yu-aBOOEk-00103-00029875-00030581 yay oh I'm still gonna tie A4yu-aBOOEk-00104-00030582-00031408 I'm gonna die A4yu-aBOOEk-00105-00031410-00031783 okay A4yu-aBOOEk-00106-00031783-00032274 okay A4yu-aBOOEk-00107-00032275-00032687 oh I can't lose that can I look you now A4yu-aBOOEk-00108-00032688-00032968 oh boy get the hell away from me you A4yu-aBOOEk-00109-00032969-00033257 freak um so Dad at least fight each A4yu-aBOOEk-00110-00033258-00033515 other there's no sprinting A4yu-aBOOEk-00111-00033516-00033971 there's no sprinting scratching A4yu-aBOOEk-00112-00033972-00035052 oh what's the spread button A4yu-aBOOEk-00113-00035053-00035531 I still expecting a return to Lobby here A4yu-aBOOEk-00114-00035532-00036235 oh yeah oh okay Bobo is still alive A4yu-aBOOEk-00115-00036236-00036731 okay okay it's raining and exist then I A4yu-aBOOEk-00116-00036732-00036959 could have a weapon somewhere A4yu-aBOOEk-00117-00036960-00037207 stash oh A4yu-aBOOEk-00118-00037208-00037457 did I have a bow on me the whole time A4yu-aBOOEk-00119-00037458-00037859 did I just need to press one A4yu-aBOOEk-00120-00037860-00038074 oh God damn it A4yu-aBOOEk-00121-00038075-00038368 there's a ball here okay maybe maybe I'm A4yu-aBOOEk-00122-00038369-00038590 gonna try to press one A4yu-aBOOEk-00123-00038591-00038993 okay okay yes yes yes I'm ready I'm A4yu-aBOOEk-00124-00038994-00039245 ready I swear I'm gonna cut you nope A4yu-aBOOEk-00125-00039246-00039851 that's the pre-lobin let's see one hey A4yu-aBOOEk-00126-00039852-00040307 okay A4yu-aBOOEk-00127-00040308-00040912 I just need to press one A4yu-aBOOEk-00128-00040913-00041533 Ah that's my bad sorry Gabe oh A4yu-aBOOEk-00129-00041534-00041771 I don't test oh that's also called A4yu-aBOOEk-00130-00041772-00041909 loading screen A4yu-aBOOEk-00131-00041910-00042233 oh I got it right beforehand A4yu-aBOOEk-00132-00042234-00042401 that's the most important thing Patrick A4yu-aBOOEk-00133-00042402-00042611 that you catch the loading screenshots A4yu-aBOOEk-00134-00042612-00042785 one A4yu-aBOOEk-00135-00042786-00043667 and freeze torch okay now we're playing A4yu-aBOOEk-00136-00043668-00043901 okay okay okay okay okay A4yu-aBOOEk-00137-00043902-00044189 let's open A4yu-aBOOEk-00138-00044190-00044429 oh A4yu-aBOOEk-00139-00044430-00045815 I need to hold it so I can crotch A4yu-aBOOEk-00140-00045816-00046517 oh no oh no where is it A4yu-aBOOEk-00141-00046518-00047579 it's crouching sweet A4yu-aBOOEk-00142-00047580-00047783 I'm gonna run out of ammo before I kill A4yu-aBOOEk-00143-00047784-00048019 this dude A4yu-aBOOEk-00144-00048020-00048168 [Music] A4yu-aBOOEk-00145-00048169-00048539 22. I need to reload oh A4yu-aBOOEk-00146-00048540-00048899 maybe there's some limited errors A4yu-aBOOEk-00147-00048900-00050551 foreign A4yu-aBOOEk-00148-00050552-00051485 oh no A4yu-aBOOEk-00149-00051486-00051737 please get rid of that A4yu-aBOOEk-00150-00051738-00051887 finally A4yu-aBOOEk-00151-00051888-00052176 let's reload A4yu-aBOOEk-00152-00052177-00052819 that's a player that's a player oh A4yu-aBOOEk-00153-00052820-00053076 I did A4yu-aBOOEk-00154-00053077-00053380 Pablo is not doing that well A4yu-aBOOEk-00155-00053382-00053680 one more time one more time A4yu-aBOOEk-00156-00053682-00053800 oh A4yu-aBOOEk-00157-00053801-00054076 please wait looking for game A4yu-aBOOEk-00158-00054077-00054353 oh okay what the hell is going on in A4yu-aBOOEk-00159-00054354-00054630 here A4yu-aBOOEk-00160-00054632-00055013 inspect I mean Steel A4yu-aBOOEk-00161-00055014-00055937 let's go A4yu-aBOOEk-00162-00055938-00056129 oh A4yu-aBOOEk-00163-00056129-00056332 sometimes I forget that I'm bad at A4yu-aBOOEk-00164-00056333-00056687 everything that is in the shooter A4yu-aBOOEk-00165-00056688-00057065 that oh ah I saw that loading screen A4yu-aBOOEk-00166-00057066-00057382 already A4yu-aBOOEk-00167-00057383-00057629 I haven't tested yet actually if I can A4yu-aBOOEk-00168-00057629-00057832 play with controller A4yu-aBOOEk-00169-00057833-00058288 see A4yu-aBOOEk-00170-00058289-00058516 uh A4yu-aBOOEk-00171-00058517-00058894 how do I equip my weapon A4yu-aBOOEk-00172-00058895-00059544 yes I can play A4yu-aBOOEk-00173-00059545-00059938 hey now we're playing A4yu-aBOOEk-00174-00059939-00060329 well if I can destroy that A4yu-aBOOEk-00175-00060329-00060599 crotch is weird you need to hold it but A4yu-aBOOEk-00176-00060600-00061561 damn it hey A4yu-aBOOEk-00177-00061562-00061811 bro we can change that you need to hold A4yu-aBOOEk-00178-00061812-00062026 it A4yu-aBOOEk-00179-00062027-00062357 Nice Shot they did A4yu-aBOOEk-00180-00062358-00062626 there are at least one shot and they A4yu-aBOOEk-00181-00062627-00062771 make nice sounds A4yu-aBOOEk-00182-00062772-00063715 I'm sure I just unblocked nice A4yu-aBOOEk-00183-00063716-00064516 okay now we're still buttering A4yu-aBOOEk-00184-00064517-00064859 reload no that's not reloading A4yu-aBOOEk-00185-00064860-00065154 what's the reload button A4yu-aBOOEk-00186-00065155-00065537 oh okay he missed at least A4yu-aBOOEk-00187-00065538-00065849 not shot oh A4yu-aBOOEk-00188-00065850-00066293 come on those are headshots man A4yu-aBOOEk-00189-00066294-00066493 how many headshots do we need to eat A4yu-aBOOEk-00190-00066494-00066803 damn yourself A4yu-aBOOEk-00191-00066804-00067056 reload A4yu-aBOOEk-00192-00067057-00067487 the watch nice A4yu-aBOOEk-00193-00067488-00067900 holy hell the skeleton itself A4yu-aBOOEk-00194-00067901-00068056 holy hell A4yu-aBOOEk-00195-00068057-00068219 die A4yu-aBOOEk-00196-00068220-00068449 and I'll lose you yes A4yu-aBOOEk-00197-00068450-00068825 ah burst it A4yu-aBOOEk-00198-00068826-00069094 I don't know how to I'm just gonna press A4yu-aBOOEk-00199-00069095-00069406 both yes yes just just cannot equip A4yu-aBOOEk-00200-00069407-00069694 beside them goddamn you A4yu-aBOOEk-00201-00069695-00070109 um A4yu-aBOOEk-00202-00070110-00070397 um I don't know how to switch weapon A4yu-aBOOEk-00203-00070398-00070661 oh okay A4yu-aBOOEk-00204-00070662-00070871 now we're playing with A4yu-aBOOEk-00205-00070872-00071329 weapons A4yu-aBOOEk-00206-00071330-00071671 foreign A4yu-aBOOEk-00207-00071672-00071909 not gonna lie A4yu-aBOOEk-00208-00071910-00072185 elf is looking fine then there are A4yu-aBOOEk-00209-00072186-00072791 little spiders in here A4yu-aBOOEk-00210-00072792-00073024 come on let me A4yu-aBOOEk-00211-00073025-00073138 [Music] A4yu-aBOOEk-00212-00073139-00073403 know about this this sword fighter in A4yu-aBOOEk-00213-00073404-00073626 the galaxy A4yu-aBOOEk-00214-00073627-00074071 instead of never ending A4yu-aBOOEk-00215-00074072-00074555 okay the slash inputs so we need to A4yu-aBOOEk-00216-00074556-00075400 foreign Direction A4yu-aBOOEk-00217-00075401-00075761 oh I'll see A4yu-aBOOEk-00218-00075762-00075988 I see A4yu-aBOOEk-00219-00075989-00076523 spider spawners A4yu-aBOOEk-00220-00076524-00076787 uh that A4yu-aBOOEk-00221-00076788-00077056 I do like that if A4yu-aBOOEk-00222-00077057-00077681 whatever that is bread A4yu-aBOOEk-00223-00077682-00078973 oh foreign A4yu-aBOOEk-00224-00078974-00079306 but here we are I can use those probably A4yu-aBOOEk-00225-00079307-00079609 yep A4yu-aBOOEk-00226-00079610-00079955 that's good A4yu-aBOOEk-00227-00079956-00080309 okay is there a map A4yu-aBOOEk-00228-00080310-00080765 no that's the owner only A4yu-aBOOEk-00229-00080766-00080999 um yeah I've done it no I'm confused A4yu-aBOOEk-00230-00081000-00082067 with my button inputs A4yu-aBOOEk-00231-00082068-00082710 oh A4yu-aBOOEk-00232-00082711-00083425 [Applause] A4yu-aBOOEk-00233-00083426-00083737 [Applause] A4yu-aBOOEk-00234-00083738-00083984 jump this apart A4yu-aBOOEk-00235-00083985-00084179 [Music] A4yu-aBOOEk-00236-00084180-00084467 jump this off apart A4yu-aBOOEk-00237-00084468-00084712 that's a weaker sword let's take it A4yu-aBOOEk-00238-00084713-00084881 anyways A4yu-aBOOEk-00239-00084882-00085067 somebody's gonna kill me A4yu-aBOOEk-00240-00085068-00085282 if I God damn it can't figure out my A4yu-aBOOEk-00241-00085283-00086604 button layout too A4yu-aBOOEk-00242-00086605-00086926 [Applause] A4yu-aBOOEk-00243-00086927-00087684 sword A4yu-aBOOEk-00244-00087685-00087994 [Applause] A4yu-aBOOEk-00245-00087995-00088318 all I need now I pick player battles new A4yu-aBOOEk-00246-00088319-00088487 boots I have some A4yu-aBOOEk-00247-00088488-00088762 don't care if they are better always A4yu-aBOOEk-00248-00088763-00089056 I just want boots man A4yu-aBOOEk-00249-00089057-00090426 do you hit it that sounds like a player A4yu-aBOOEk-00250-00090427-00090725 those are my steps A4yu-aBOOEk-00251-00090726-00090959 that's a player right A4yu-aBOOEk-00252-00090960-00091194 hey A4yu-aBOOEk-00253-00091195-00091421 I don't know what A4yu-aBOOEk-00254-00091422-00091606 speech chat is A4yu-aBOOEk-00255-00091607-00091931 I'm just gonna ignore him A4yu-aBOOEk-00256-00091932-00092237 I don't want to fight A4yu-aBOOEk-00257-00092238-00092368 oh A4yu-aBOOEk-00258-00092369-00092579 it's good A4yu-aBOOEk-00259-00092580-00092782 hey dude A4yu-aBOOEk-00260-00092783-00092999 I don't know what voice to this T voice A4yu-aBOOEk-00261-00093000-00093185 chat no A4yu-aBOOEk-00262-00093186-00093443 no kill let's just move the different A4yu-aBOOEk-00263-00093444-00093611 direction A4yu-aBOOEk-00264-00093612-00094205 before it becomes unfriendly A4yu-aBOOEk-00265-00094206-00094385 oh I have no clue how to escape here A4yu-aBOOEk-00266-00094386-00094906 anyways A4yu-aBOOEk-00267-00094907-00095123 but you definitely can hear him walk A4yu-aBOOEk-00268-00095124-00095332 around A4yu-aBOOEk-00269-00095333-00095662 gold A4yu-aBOOEk-00270-00095663-00095968 skip get up damn it I'm playing mouse A4yu-aBOOEk-00271-00095969-00096593 and keyboard and controller A4yu-aBOOEk-00272-00096594-00097043 somebody to my left oh match acceptor A4yu-aBOOEk-00273-00097044-00097968 grape A4yu-aBOOEk-00274-00097969-00098494 the jump scared me God damn it A4yu-aBOOEk-00275-00098495-00098993 foreign A4yu-aBOOEk-00276-00098994-00099574 [Applause] A4yu-aBOOEk-00277-00099575-00100000 [Music] A4yu-aBOOEk-00278-00100001-00100324 I need to go to him but A4yu-aBOOEk-00279-00100325-00100511 I'm gonna die in the zone this is A4yu-aBOOEk-00280-00100512-00100726 Warzone all over again A4yu-aBOOEk-00281-00100727-00101573 open up that takes a long time A4yu-aBOOEk-00282-00101574-00102076 that seems like somebody is praying A4yu-aBOOEk-00283-00102077-00104734 foreign A4yu-aBOOEk-00284-00104735-00105071 but we're gonna exit the demos done here A4yu-aBOOEk-00285-00105072-00105215 thanks for watching A4yu-aBOOEk-00286-00105216-00105454 darker and darker just like this screen A4yu-aBOOEk-00287-00105455-00105683 right now is darker and darker A4yu-aBOOEk-00288-00105683-00106054 oh it's talking darker Souls yo peace A4yu-aBOOEk-00289-00106055-00106267 out A5tDqYqZgfI-00000-00000032-00000295 great so i'm just going to move that A5tDqYqZgfI-00001-00000296-00000399 over there A5tDqYqZgfI-00002-00000400-00000638 okay so welcome to this session we just A5tDqYqZgfI-00003-00000639-00000823 do a quick round of introductions before A5tDqYqZgfI-00004-00000824-00000950 we get started A5tDqYqZgfI-00005-00000951-00001223 so my name's amanda mobile um i am A5tDqYqZgfI-00006-00001224-00001399 actually i should need to stop sharing A5tDqYqZgfI-00007-00001400-00001607 otherwise you won't see my face sorry A5tDqYqZgfI-00008-00001607-00001967 um i am a senior A5tDqYqZgfI-00009-00001968-00002207 child protection advisor for unh here A5tDqYqZgfI-00010-00002208-00002295 and um A5tDqYqZgfI-00011-00002296-00002542 we'll just ask if natalie if you could A5tDqYqZgfI-00012-00002543-00002687 introduce yourself A5tDqYqZgfI-00013-00002688-00002879 hi i'm natalie mccauley and i'm the A5tDqYqZgfI-00014-00002880-00002999 chief of child protection A5tDqYqZgfI-00015-00003000-00003327 for unicef bangladesh great so natalie A5tDqYqZgfI-00016-00003328-00003447 and i will be the A5tDqYqZgfI-00017-00003447-00003638 the australian dream team in case you A5tDqYqZgfI-00018-00003639-00003863 didn't know our accents A5tDqYqZgfI-00019-00003864-00004222 together with you on this session um A5tDqYqZgfI-00020-00004223-00004511 okay great so let me just share my A5tDqYqZgfI-00021-00004512-00004638 screen again A5tDqYqZgfI-00022-00004639-00004806 i'm going to get do we have a translator A5tDqYqZgfI-00023-00004807-00005015 for australians A5tDqYqZgfI-00024-00005016-00005238 so we have that available steve you've A5tDqYqZgfI-00025-00005239-00005463 got to sort that out A5tDqYqZgfI-00026-00005464-00005895 it was it was too expensive A5tDqYqZgfI-00027-00005896-00006222 we couldn't afford all the beer A5tDqYqZgfI-00028-00006223-00006703 okay so now if i can just start the slap A5tDqYqZgfI-00029-00006704-00007023 okay great um so jessica can i just A5tDqYqZgfI-00030-00007023-00007175 confirm that everyone can see the A5tDqYqZgfI-00031-00007176-00007334 slideshow now A5tDqYqZgfI-00032-00007336-00007687 yes they can great thank you excellent A5tDqYqZgfI-00033-00007688-00008046 so i'm going to move this little A5tDqYqZgfI-00034-00008047-00008455 maybe i can get rid of that A5tDqYqZgfI-00035-00008456-00008759 okay so um what is the objective of the A5tDqYqZgfI-00036-00008760-00008903 session so we're going to be looking A5tDqYqZgfI-00037-00008904-00008951 again A5tDqYqZgfI-00038-00008952-00009263 at what is the how is the the pandemic A5tDqYqZgfI-00039-00009264-00009439 impacted on the situation of children A5tDqYqZgfI-00040-00009440-00009631 deprived of liberty A5tDqYqZgfI-00041-00009632-00009799 we're going to identify concrete A5tDqYqZgfI-00042-00009800-00009991 approaches to protect children A5tDqYqZgfI-00043-00009992-00010191 deprived of liberty during covid and A5tDqYqZgfI-00044-00010192-00010303 identify A5tDqYqZgfI-00045-00010304-00010567 opportunities to use the pandemic to A5tDqYqZgfI-00046-00010568-00010742 build back better and this was a common A5tDqYqZgfI-00047-00010743-00010895 theme from the previous session and A5tDqYqZgfI-00048-00010896-00011014 we'll be A5tDqYqZgfI-00049-00011015-00011278 with natalie exploring again together in A5tDqYqZgfI-00050-00011279-00011574 the context specifically of bangladesh A5tDqYqZgfI-00051-00011575-00011846 how how unicef and the partners have A5tDqYqZgfI-00052-00011847-00012103 been able to use the pandemia as an A5tDqYqZgfI-00053-00012104-00012414 opportunity to really accelerate A5tDqYqZgfI-00054-00012415-00012759 the investments around the reform of A5tDqYqZgfI-00055-00012760-00013022 children in conflict with the law okay A5tDqYqZgfI-00056-00013023-00013175 the agenda A5tDqYqZgfI-00057-00013176-00013399 will be as we mentioned really an A5tDqYqZgfI-00058-00013400-00013638 introduction to the impact of children A5tDqYqZgfI-00059-00013640-00013903 deprived of liberty um and and the A5tDqYqZgfI-00060-00013904-00014071 impact of covet A5tDqYqZgfI-00061-00014072-00014255 we'll be looking at the case study as i A5tDqYqZgfI-00062-00014256-00014447 mentioned together with natalie of the A5tDqYqZgfI-00063-00014447-00014655 situation in bangladesh A5tDqYqZgfI-00064-00014656-00014847 and again we'll be doing some lovely A5tDqYqZgfI-00065-00014847-00014975 small group work and A5tDqYqZgfI-00066-00014976-00015175 and plenary report back with some A5tDqYqZgfI-00067-00015176-00015422 summary and conclusions so that's it A5tDqYqZgfI-00068-00015423-00015711 um we will look at the number we have A5tDqYqZgfI-00069-00015712-00015815 about 30 of us A5tDqYqZgfI-00070-00015816-00016103 today so um we'll probably have a few A5tDqYqZgfI-00071-00016104-00016255 less jam boards A5tDqYqZgfI-00072-00016256-00016607 than we sorry a few less A5tDqYqZgfI-00073-00016608-00016958 uh breakout rooms than we initially said A5tDqYqZgfI-00074-00016959-00017111 but it'll be the same process that A5tDqYqZgfI-00075-00017112-00017271 you've already seen so i won't go A5tDqYqZgfI-00076-00017272-00017327 through that A5tDqYqZgfI-00077-00017328-00017750 in in in detail so in terms of the issue A5tDqYqZgfI-00078-00017751-00018047 just a few opening remarks from my side A5tDqYqZgfI-00079-00018048-00018271 so we were children deprived of liberty A5tDqYqZgfI-00080-00018272-00018471 it's very important to think i mean A5tDqYqZgfI-00081-00018472-00018614 there's many ways to A5tDqYqZgfI-00082-00018615-00018814 many aspects to children deprived of A5tDqYqZgfI-00083-00018815-00019022 liberty but broadly speaking we can talk A5tDqYqZgfI-00084-00019023-00019207 about three categories first A5tDqYqZgfI-00085-00019208-00019407 you have children who are in conflict A5tDqYqZgfI-00086-00019408-00019599 with the law and those are children who A5tDqYqZgfI-00087-00019600-00019655 have A5tDqYqZgfI-00088-00019656-00019919 um committed or alleged to have A5tDqYqZgfI-00089-00019920-00019975 committed A5tDqYqZgfI-00090-00019976-00020286 some some crime and then you have the A5tDqYqZgfI-00091-00020287-00020478 situation of children in immigration A5tDqYqZgfI-00092-00020479-00020575 detention A5tDqYqZgfI-00093-00020576-00020775 and obviously that is a situation where A5tDqYqZgfI-00094-00020776-00020975 children and and sometimes their family A5tDqYqZgfI-00095-00020976-00021271 are placed in detention because of A5tDqYqZgfI-00096-00021272-00021447 immigration related A5tDqYqZgfI-00097-00021448-00021750 offences and the last one A5tDqYqZgfI-00098-00021751-00022030 is children detained without due process A5tDqYqZgfI-00099-00022031-00022271 so in many of the places where we work A5tDqYqZgfI-00100-00022272-00022455 we actually have the detention of A5tDqYqZgfI-00101-00022456-00022607 children absolutely A5tDqYqZgfI-00102-00022608-00022999 unrelated to to any jude legal process A5tDqYqZgfI-00103-00023000-00023183 and so it's important for us to keep in A5tDqYqZgfI-00104-00023184-00023311 mind that we do have A5tDqYqZgfI-00105-00023312-00023511 that to that other category of children A5tDqYqZgfI-00106-00023512-00023719 those other categories it's not just A5tDqYqZgfI-00107-00023720-00023911 the traditional way we think about A5tDqYqZgfI-00108-00023912-00024103 children in conflict with the law A5tDqYqZgfI-00109-00024104-00024335 um so what are key priorities and this A5tDqYqZgfI-00110-00024336-00024542 is the unfortunately and for A5tDqYqZgfI-00111-00024543-00024742 you can see the guidance the technical A5tDqYqZgfI-00112-00024743-00024863 note on kodi A5tDqYqZgfI-00113-00024864-00025086 and children deprived of liberty um A5tDqYqZgfI-00114-00025087-00025167 identify A5tDqYqZgfI-00115-00025168-00025422 three prior key priorities for us to A5tDqYqZgfI-00116-00025423-00025511 work A5tDqYqZgfI-00117-00025512-00025799 together um as a child protection A5tDqYqZgfI-00118-00025800-00025902 community A5tDqYqZgfI-00119-00025904-00026199 um sorry i'm just trying to deal with my A5tDqYqZgfI-00120-00026200-00026262 screen A5tDqYqZgfI-00121-00026263-00026446 in terms of addressing and and A5tDqYqZgfI-00122-00026447-00026655 protecting children who are deprived of A5tDqYqZgfI-00123-00026656-00026839 of liberty and the key priorities that A5tDqYqZgfI-00124-00026839-00027014 were identified in that A5tDqYqZgfI-00125-00027016-00027199 guidance note that was developed back i A5tDqYqZgfI-00126-00027200-00027358 think in april even A5tDqYqZgfI-00127-00027360-00027646 first of all was issuing a moratorium on A5tDqYqZgfI-00128-00027647-00027823 new children entering detention A5tDqYqZgfI-00129-00027824-00027927 facilities A5tDqYqZgfI-00130-00027927-00028239 the second priority was releasing all A5tDqYqZgfI-00131-00028239-00028567 children who can be safely released and A5tDqYqZgfI-00132-00028568-00028790 thirdly is protecting the health and A5tDqYqZgfI-00133-00028791-00029190 well-being of any children A5tDqYqZgfI-00134-00029191-00029446 uh honey can i just ask you to mute all A5tDqYqZgfI-00135-00029447-00029631 the participants and A5tDqYqZgfI-00136-00029632-00029823 just a reminder to everybody if you A5tDqYqZgfI-00137-00029824-00030014 could mute when you're not speaking A5tDqYqZgfI-00138-00030016-00030351 thank you yeah i've done that um thanks A5tDqYqZgfI-00139-00030352-00030607 great so this is giving an a quick A5tDqYqZgfI-00140-00030608-00030799 overview of children deprived of A5tDqYqZgfI-00141-00030800-00031183 of liberty now i'm going to open up A5tDqYqZgfI-00142-00031183-00031583 um and really if we can just A5tDqYqZgfI-00143-00031583-00031799 give me a second we'll stop sharing the A5tDqYqZgfI-00144-00031800-00032231 screen A5tDqYqZgfI-00145-00032232-00032511 great and now we'll turn after that A5tDqYqZgfI-00146-00032512-00032751 overview i want to turn to natalie A5tDqYqZgfI-00147-00032752-00033079 and natalie can you ask could you uh A5tDqYqZgfI-00148-00033080-00033167 explain to us A5tDqYqZgfI-00149-00033168-00033455 how did covet impact on the way in which A5tDqYqZgfI-00150-00033456-00033567 the justice A5tDqYqZgfI-00151-00033568-00033751 system functions for children in A5tDqYqZgfI-00152-00033752-00034007 bangladesh over to you natalie A5tDqYqZgfI-00153-00034008-00034335 yeah thanks um look i think none of us A5tDqYqZgfI-00154-00034336-00034518 were prepared for covert obviously A5tDqYqZgfI-00155-00034519-00034799 and the justice system in bangladesh for A5tDqYqZgfI-00156-00034800-00035127 children was already strained beforehand A5tDqYqZgfI-00157-00035128-00035390 unfortunately the practice in bangladesh A5tDqYqZgfI-00158-00035391-00035587 has been centered mostly around A5tDqYqZgfI-00159-00035588-00035727 institutionalization A5tDqYqZgfI-00160-00035728-00036023 and i think once covered started this A5tDqYqZgfI-00161-00036024-00036127 didn't really stop A5tDqYqZgfI-00162-00036128-00036287 actually we had an increase of children A5tDqYqZgfI-00163-00036288-00036551 going into institutions still A5tDqYqZgfI-00164-00036552-00036774 in places of detention the courts were A5tDqYqZgfI-00165-00036775-00036887 all closed A5tDqYqZgfI-00166-00036888-00037239 because of the lockdown um and also A5tDqYqZgfI-00167-00037240-00037430 we had a situation where probation A5tDqYqZgfI-00168-00037431-00037655 officers in in bangladesh probation A5tDqYqZgfI-00169-00037656-00037846 officers are like A5tDqYqZgfI-00170-00037847-00038111 social workers within the justice system A5tDqYqZgfI-00171-00038112-00038271 they're called probation officers A5tDqYqZgfI-00172-00038272-00038462 they also were unable to access the A5tDqYqZgfI-00173-00038463-00038671 children and the legal aid A5tDqYqZgfI-00174-00038672-00038879 people were also stopped in the A5tDqYqZgfI-00175-00038880-00039062 detention facilities themselves they A5tDqYqZgfI-00176-00039063-00039255 also weren't prepared A5tDqYqZgfI-00177-00039256-00039455 they didn't were prepared for virtual A5tDqYqZgfI-00178-00039456-00039687 situations they didn't have zoom rooms A5tDqYqZgfI-00179-00039688-00039823 or skype rooms A5tDqYqZgfI-00180-00039824-00040055 um and they had uh and they're very far A5tDqYqZgfI-00181-00040056-00040223 away from children's courts so one of A5tDqYqZgfI-00182-00040224-00040415 the pieces of legislation here is that A5tDqYqZgfI-00183-00040416-00040527 you have to A5tDqYqZgfI-00184-00040528-00040823 um go to physically go to a children's A5tDqYqZgfI-00185-00040824-00040974 court to actually get released A5tDqYqZgfI-00186-00040975-00041246 put on bail or even have your trial so A5tDqYqZgfI-00187-00041247-00041415 that just wasn't possible in covert and A5tDqYqZgfI-00188-00041416-00041590 we have a very large country obviously A5tDqYqZgfI-00189-00041591-00041783 and the three detention facilities A5tDqYqZgfI-00190-00041784-00042030 are a long way away um from a lot of A5tDqYqZgfI-00191-00042031-00042190 those children's courts A5tDqYqZgfI-00192-00042191-00042343 and the access to the families was A5tDqYqZgfI-00193-00042344-00042551 stopped so the visits were also stopped A5tDqYqZgfI-00194-00042552-00042607 um A5tDqYqZgfI-00195-00042608-00042951 at that time so it was quite a jarring A5tDqYqZgfI-00196-00042952-00043295 event um and uh A5tDqYqZgfI-00197-00043296-00043479 yeah it was very hard to to cope in A5tDqYqZgfI-00198-00043480-00043662 those initial days because pretty much A5tDqYqZgfI-00199-00043663-00043807 everything stopped but the flow of A5tDqYqZgfI-00200-00043808-00043999 children to those detention facilities A5tDqYqZgfI-00201-00044000-00044767 continued A5tDqYqZgfI-00202-00044768-00044999 sorry excellent thank you so much for A5tDqYqZgfI-00203-00045000-00045183 that that sounds like a really A5tDqYqZgfI-00204-00045184-00045374 challenging situation to deal with A5tDqYqZgfI-00205-00045375-00045455 natalie A5tDqYqZgfI-00206-00045456-00045687 could you say a few words about how did A5tDqYqZgfI-00207-00045688-00045902 you address this situation how did you A5tDqYqZgfI-00208-00045903-00046118 try to respond as unicef and the A5tDqYqZgfI-00209-00046119-00046190 partners A5tDqYqZgfI-00210-00046191-00046471 to address the challenges um you so you A5tDqYqZgfI-00211-00046472-00046623 just articulated A5tDqYqZgfI-00212-00046624-00046943 well immediately um we A5tDqYqZgfI-00213-00046944-00047174 started negotiations or started talking A5tDqYqZgfI-00214-00047175-00047262 with um A5tDqYqZgfI-00215-00047263-00047518 the supreme court and and we had a we A5tDqYqZgfI-00216-00047519-00047671 have a committee on child rights with A5tDqYqZgfI-00217-00047672-00047807 the supreme court here A5tDqYqZgfI-00218-00047808-00047999 so one of the advantages for us was is A5tDqYqZgfI-00219-00048000-00048167 that we already had that relationship A5tDqYqZgfI-00220-00048168-00048271 and i think A5tDqYqZgfI-00221-00048272-00048574 that helped us going straight into this A5tDqYqZgfI-00222-00048575-00048751 we were able to call that A5tDqYqZgfI-00223-00048752-00048902 committee we were able to work with the A5tDqYqZgfI-00224-00048903-00049071 ministry of social welfare A5tDqYqZgfI-00225-00049072-00049215 who are the ones that are actually A5tDqYqZgfI-00226-00049216-00049374 looking after all of the detention A5tDqYqZgfI-00227-00049375-00049558 facilities including the safe homes for A5tDqYqZgfI-00228-00049559-00049783 children in contact with the law A5tDqYqZgfI-00229-00049784-00049990 and we were able to solicit some joint A5tDqYqZgfI-00230-00049991-00050127 commitments on A5tDqYqZgfI-00231-00050128-00050327 how we can move forward some A5tDqYqZgfI-00232-00050328-00050455 acknowledgements that A5tDqYqZgfI-00233-00050456-00050655 children are at high risk there and A5tDqYqZgfI-00234-00050656-00050790 that's not going to make the government A5tDqYqZgfI-00235-00050791-00050967 look good it's not going to make anyone A5tDqYqZgfI-00236-00050968-00051118 it's not going to be a positive result A5tDqYqZgfI-00237-00051119-00051335 if any of the children get sick A5tDqYqZgfI-00238-00051336-00051558 they also had to recognize that most of A5tDqYqZgfI-00239-00051559-00051750 the detention facilities had three or A5tDqYqZgfI-00240-00051751-00051950 four times the amount of children A5tDqYqZgfI-00241-00051951-00052230 that they had the capacity for and that A5tDqYqZgfI-00242-00052232-00052414 children were still flowing into the A5tDqYqZgfI-00243-00052415-00052494 system A5tDqYqZgfI-00244-00052495-00052687 so we had to get that acknowledgement of A5tDqYqZgfI-00245-00052688-00052863 the government partners first but also A5tDqYqZgfI-00246-00052864-00053094 we had to get the supreme court on board A5tDqYqZgfI-00247-00053095-00053303 that advocacy started from the start and A5tDqYqZgfI-00248-00053304-00053582 i have to say also the alliance document A5tDqYqZgfI-00249-00053583-00053750 that you noted at the start of this A5tDqYqZgfI-00250-00053751-00053982 session was pivotal for us because it A5tDqYqZgfI-00251-00053983-00054142 actually was a foundational document in A5tDqYqZgfI-00252-00054144-00054303 which we could start even broader A5tDqYqZgfI-00253-00054304-00054447 discussions this is A5tDqYqZgfI-00254-00054448-00054630 you know this is a global document this A5tDqYqZgfI-00255-00054632-00054863 is a this is based on the global minimum A5tDqYqZgfI-00256-00054864-00055023 standards this is what we should be A5tDqYqZgfI-00257-00055024-00055094 doing here A5tDqYqZgfI-00258-00055095-00055238 and so we were able to start those A5tDqYqZgfI-00259-00055239-00055438 discussions and and um A5tDqYqZgfI-00260-00055439-00055663 we were able to do it very very quickly A5tDqYqZgfI-00261-00055664-00055838 we got an agreement that this was the A5tDqYqZgfI-00262-00055839-00055991 way we needed to go which was getting A5tDqYqZgfI-00263-00055991-00056150 children out of detention A5tDqYqZgfI-00264-00056151-00056407 we started a negotiation to establish A5tDqYqZgfI-00265-00056408-00056575 virtual courts A5tDqYqZgfI-00266-00056576-00056847 and unicef supplied everything for the A5tDqYqZgfI-00267-00056848-00056966 virtual courts so A5tDqYqZgfI-00268-00056967-00057215 we actually did all of the support in A5tDqYqZgfI-00269-00057216-00057382 establishing those virtual courts A5tDqYqZgfI-00270-00057383-00057663 within that first month of the covered A5tDqYqZgfI-00271-00057664-00057871 lockdown so by april we already had the A5tDqYqZgfI-00272-00057872-00058047 virtual courts up and running A5tDqYqZgfI-00273-00058048-00058271 and we managed to get um agreement at A5tDqYqZgfI-00274-00058272-00058399 the highest level and then the A5tDqYqZgfI-00275-00058400-00058566 honourable president of bangladesh A5tDqYqZgfI-00276-00058567-00058719 issued an ordinance A5tDqYqZgfI-00277-00058720-00058942 to ensure that those virtual courts were A5tDqYqZgfI-00278-00058944-00059047 legalized A5tDqYqZgfI-00279-00059048-00059230 the first session of the virtual courts A5tDqYqZgfI-00280-00059232-00059487 wasn't until the first week of may A5tDqYqZgfI-00281-00059488-00059815 but it's still compared to A5tDqYqZgfI-00282-00059816-00059966 i mean we've both been working in this A5tDqYqZgfI-00283-00059967-00060135 field for 20 plus years A5tDqYqZgfI-00284-00060136-00060391 i mean to have something shift so A5tDqYqZgfI-00285-00060391-00060511 dramatically A5tDqYqZgfI-00286-00060512-00060830 um in such a short period of time A5tDqYqZgfI-00287-00060832-00061047 is is somewhat of a miracle injustice A5tDqYqZgfI-00288-00061048-00061150 for children A5tDqYqZgfI-00289-00061151-00061335 so even even in the last six months A5tDqYqZgfI-00290-00061336-00061479 we've had over a thousand children A5tDqYqZgfI-00291-00061479-00061671 released from detention because of those A5tDqYqZgfI-00292-00061672-00061830 initial advocacy A5tDqYqZgfI-00293-00061832-00062047 um what we did notice though that there A5tDqYqZgfI-00294-00062048-00062166 was neglect A5tDqYqZgfI-00295-00062167-00062359 the links to the probation officers and A5tDqYqZgfI-00296-00062360-00062503 the social welfare systems weren't A5tDqYqZgfI-00297-00062504-00062711 necessarily there we have had to A5tDqYqZgfI-00298-00062712-00062823 increase that A5tDqYqZgfI-00299-00062824-00063047 um alongside this we were increasing the A5tDqYqZgfI-00300-00063048-00063199 number of social workers anyway A5tDqYqZgfI-00301-00063200-00063415 with the ministry of social welfare so A5tDqYqZgfI-00302-00063416-00063511 this sort of A5tDqYqZgfI-00303-00063512-00063719 went in parallel so it was a systems A5tDqYqZgfI-00304-00063720-00063871 based approach and this was one A5tDqYqZgfI-00305-00063872-00063959 component A5tDqYqZgfI-00306-00063960-00064263 of it excellent thanks and it was really A5tDqYqZgfI-00307-00064264-00064423 interesting to hear the figures that you A5tDqYqZgfI-00308-00064424-00064559 talked about about the number of A5tDqYqZgfI-00309-00064560-00064606 children A5tDqYqZgfI-00310-00064607-00064935 released um since covid what was the A5tDqYqZgfI-00311-00064936-00065159 rate that was being is it how did that A5tDqYqZgfI-00312-00065160-00065326 compare to what was happening before A5tDqYqZgfI-00313-00065327-00065567 covid could you say a few years ago A5tDqYqZgfI-00314-00065568-00065847 they weren't really being released i A5tDqYqZgfI-00315-00065848-00066038 mean there was probably a fewer months A5tDqYqZgfI-00316-00066039-00066294 um and and you would get more going in A5tDqYqZgfI-00317-00066295-00066447 which is why they had three times the A5tDqYqZgfI-00318-00066448-00066631 amount so now they're at capacity the A5tDqYqZgfI-00319-00066632-00066791 detention facilities A5tDqYqZgfI-00320-00066792-00067023 um we've still got a lot of work to do A5tDqYqZgfI-00321-00067024-00067238 we need more commitment on diversion we A5tDqYqZgfI-00322-00067239-00067406 have that the government is very A5tDqYqZgfI-00323-00067407-00067606 supportive so we've been so lucky to A5tDqYqZgfI-00324-00067607-00067711 have great government A5tDqYqZgfI-00325-00067712-00067847 counterparts that have been so A5tDqYqZgfI-00326-00067848-00068038 supportive in this process really A5tDqYqZgfI-00327-00068039-00068215 committed to improving the rights of A5tDqYqZgfI-00328-00068216-00068279 children A5tDqYqZgfI-00329-00068280-00068463 and even now the standards of children A5tDqYqZgfI-00330-00068464-00068679 in these facilities they recognize that A5tDqYqZgfI-00331-00068680-00068806 the facilities are not A5tDqYqZgfI-00332-00068807-00069047 up to standard at all not that we want A5tDqYqZgfI-00333-00069048-00069231 children in detention at all A5tDqYqZgfI-00334-00069232-00069438 but we also need them to be safe when A5tDqYqZgfI-00335-00069439-00069623 they are there and there has been A5tDqYqZgfI-00336-00069624-00069806 a number of incidences in the last few A5tDqYqZgfI-00337-00069807-00070038 months that have identified that perhaps A5tDqYqZgfI-00338-00070039-00070206 they're not necessarily safe in those A5tDqYqZgfI-00339-00070207-00070367 facilities and it's a lot better for A5tDqYqZgfI-00340-00070368-00070591 them to be at home A5tDqYqZgfI-00341-00070592-00070806 great so you've identified a number of A5tDqYqZgfI-00342-00070807-00071023 remaining challenges that you have in A5tDqYqZgfI-00343-00071024-00071135 bangladesh and A5tDqYqZgfI-00344-00071136-00071350 the bangladesh's you're working together A5tDqYqZgfI-00345-00071351-00071511 with the authorities and partners in A5tDqYqZgfI-00346-00071512-00071711 bangladesh could you say a few words A5tDqYqZgfI-00347-00071712-00071823 about how you're A5tDqYqZgfI-00348-00071824-00071975 you know going forward you're planning A5tDqYqZgfI-00349-00071976-00072126 to address those challenges A5tDqYqZgfI-00350-00072127-00072367 in support of the authorities well in A5tDqYqZgfI-00351-00072368-00072503 the last month one of the biggest A5tDqYqZgfI-00352-00072504-00072662 challenges we've had is that because A5tDqYqZgfI-00353-00072663-00072831 things have started to open up and the A5tDqYqZgfI-00354-00072832-00072991 courts have started to open up there's A5tDqYqZgfI-00355-00072992-00073182 been a reluctance to use the virtual A5tDqYqZgfI-00356-00073183-00073287 court structure A5tDqYqZgfI-00357-00073288-00073438 so there's going to be an ongoing A5tDqYqZgfI-00358-00073439-00073638 advocacy for that because we don't want A5tDqYqZgfI-00359-00073639-00073719 children A5tDqYqZgfI-00360-00073720-00073975 to have to go um to another part of the A5tDqYqZgfI-00361-00073976-00074031 country A5tDqYqZgfI-00362-00074032-00074238 to be in front of a judge to have their A5tDqYqZgfI-00363-00074239-00074494 rights assured so the virtual system we A5tDqYqZgfI-00364-00074495-00074591 want to keep A5tDqYqZgfI-00365-00074592-00074791 because that also expedites everything A5tDqYqZgfI-00366-00074792-00074982 that's going on A5tDqYqZgfI-00367-00074983-00075150 there's also a need to strengthen the A5tDqYqZgfI-00368-00075151-00075359 skills and the capacity of the judges A5tDqYqZgfI-00369-00075360-00075582 and the lawyers and the social services A5tDqYqZgfI-00370-00075583-00075879 as well as the police regarding virtual A5tDqYqZgfI-00371-00075880-00076062 know-how but also the rights of these A5tDqYqZgfI-00372-00076063-00076143 children A5tDqYqZgfI-00373-00076144-00076406 to promote diversion one of the things A5tDqYqZgfI-00374-00076407-00076575 we were able to do within that first A5tDqYqZgfI-00375-00076576-00076719 month was to train A5tDqYqZgfI-00376-00076720-00076926 all of the judges across the children's A5tDqYqZgfI-00377-00076927-00077119 courts something that you wouldn't do A5tDqYqZgfI-00378-00077120-00077279 usually and it wouldn't be done very A5tDqYqZgfI-00379-00077280-00077462 quickly but because of the virtual A5tDqYqZgfI-00380-00077463-00077687 opportunities we were able to do that so A5tDqYqZgfI-00381-00077688-00077894 i think if we can continue to leverage A5tDqYqZgfI-00382-00077895-00078215 that technolo technology advancement A5tDqYqZgfI-00383-00078216-00078431 um i think we will all be in a much A5tDqYqZgfI-00384-00078432-00078591 better place moving forward there's a A5tDqYqZgfI-00385-00078592-00078711 lot of A5tDqYqZgfI-00386-00078712-00078975 creative ways that you can engage very A5tDqYqZgfI-00387-00078976-00079167 high level individuals because you don't A5tDqYqZgfI-00388-00079168-00079279 actually have to A5tDqYqZgfI-00389-00079280-00079494 visit them face to face so it's allowed A5tDqYqZgfI-00390-00079495-00079719 us to have those relationships A5tDqYqZgfI-00391-00079720-00079911 i think also we need to continue with A5tDqYqZgfI-00392-00079912-00080111 our legislation the legislation we have A5tDqYqZgfI-00393-00080112-00080335 is from 2013 and the rules A5tDqYqZgfI-00394-00080336-00080503 associated with it have not been A5tDqYqZgfI-00395-00080504-00080671 budgeted for they don't they haven't A5tDqYqZgfI-00396-00080672-00080806 been costed and they're not being A5tDqYqZgfI-00397-00080807-00080903 implemented A5tDqYqZgfI-00398-00080904-00081199 and that has been a large gap and the A5tDqYqZgfI-00399-00081200-00081343 rules are not just for justice for A5tDqYqZgfI-00400-00081344-00081399 children but A5tDqYqZgfI-00401-00081400-00081655 also for children at risk of harm and A5tDqYqZgfI-00402-00081656-00081831 and violence against children and other A5tDqYqZgfI-00403-00081832-00081894 areas A5tDqYqZgfI-00404-00081895-00082103 associated with child protection and we A5tDqYqZgfI-00405-00082104-00082335 need to continue that upstream work A5tDqYqZgfI-00406-00082336-00082471 what i realized though is that the A5tDqYqZgfI-00407-00082472-00082687 upstream work that sometimes is not A5tDqYqZgfI-00408-00082688-00082959 seen much you know you don't see the A5tDqYqZgfI-00409-00082960-00083118 results it's a slow A5tDqYqZgfI-00410-00083119-00083431 it's a slow working machine um enabled A5tDqYqZgfI-00411-00083432-00083687 us to move so quickly in those first A5tDqYqZgfI-00412-00083688-00083871 six weeks if we did not have the A5tDqYqZgfI-00413-00083872-00084038 relationship that we did at the highest A5tDqYqZgfI-00414-00084039-00084118 levels in class A5tDqYqZgfI-00415-00084119-00084326 especially the chief justices of the A5tDqYqZgfI-00416-00084327-00084431 supreme court A5tDqYqZgfI-00417-00084432-00084567 i don't think we would have been able to A5tDqYqZgfI-00418-00084568-00084791 do what we've done A5tDqYqZgfI-00419-00084792-00085015 great well thank you very much i see a A5tDqYqZgfI-00420-00085016-00085215 question another question and i think we A5tDqYqZgfI-00421-00085216-00085382 do have a few minutes so if colleagues A5tDqYqZgfI-00422-00085383-00085606 would like to post questions to natalie A5tDqYqZgfI-00423-00085607-00085943 um in in the the chat box A5tDqYqZgfI-00424-00085944-00086238 so when i see a question here were the A5tDqYqZgfI-00425-00086239-00086479 virtual cost established by unicef used A5tDqYqZgfI-00426-00086480-00086718 for adult cases as well A5tDqYqZgfI-00427-00086719-00087126 um no only child cases yep A5tDqYqZgfI-00428-00087127-00087343 only for children's courts and for A5tDqYqZgfI-00429-00087344-00087550 children that were in safe homes A5tDqYqZgfI-00430-00087551-00087799 um but undp after we established the A5tDqYqZgfI-00431-00087800-00088006 virtual courts and we got the advocacy A5tDqYqZgfI-00432-00088007-00088143 and the prime minister A5tDqYqZgfI-00433-00088144-00088367 um cleared the virtual courts undp A5tDqYqZgfI-00434-00088368-00088575 supported the adult court system having A5tDqYqZgfI-00435-00088576-00088759 virtual courts so adults were also A5tDqYqZgfI-00436-00088760-00089071 released throughout this process as well A5tDqYqZgfI-00437-00089072-00089326 okay great another question i see from A5tDqYqZgfI-00438-00089327-00089391 alex A5tDqYqZgfI-00439-00089392-00089606 have you seen more lenient sentencing A5tDqYqZgfI-00440-00089607-00089823 with virtual courts than face to face or A5tDqYqZgfI-00441-00089824-00089894 were they A5tDqYqZgfI-00442-00089895-00090206 simply far less courts than before A5tDqYqZgfI-00443-00090207-00090406 well a lot of the cases still are A5tDqYqZgfI-00444-00090407-00090526 suspended so A5tDqYqZgfI-00445-00090527-00090703 it was mostly getting children out on A5tDqYqZgfI-00446-00090704-00090831 bail or those A5tDqYqZgfI-00447-00090832-00091118 that perhaps were on petty crimes to get A5tDqYqZgfI-00448-00091119-00091271 the cases um A5tDqYqZgfI-00449-00091272-00091582 removed or reduced so yeah i guess in in A5tDqYqZgfI-00450-00091583-00091735 that case yes because A5tDqYqZgfI-00451-00091736-00091887 the whole purpose of it was to get A5tDqYqZgfI-00452-00091888-00092094 children out of detention so A5tDqYqZgfI-00453-00092095-00092423 yes but not not really in essence it's A5tDqYqZgfI-00454-00092424-00092535 still the same A5tDqYqZgfI-00455-00092536-00092799 yeah okay great now see another question A5tDqYqZgfI-00456-00092800-00092918 from freda A5tDqYqZgfI-00457-00092919-00093182 um virtual courts have been legit uh A5tDqYqZgfI-00458-00093183-00093391 legalized by the president A5tDqYqZgfI-00459-00093392-00093679 uh what would be the reason why the A5tDqYqZgfI-00460-00093680-00093838 traditional courts would like to go back A5tDqYqZgfI-00461-00093839-00094126 to face to face for children A5tDqYqZgfI-00462-00094127-00094311 um because that's just what they're used A5tDqYqZgfI-00463-00094312-00094447 to uh A5tDqYqZgfI-00464-00094448-00094767 and it's not you know they're these are A5tDqYqZgfI-00465-00094768-00094926 very senior judges A5tDqYqZgfI-00466-00094927-00095199 um it was quite an interesting process A5tDqYqZgfI-00467-00095200-00095391 where they'd be calling us at all hours A5tDqYqZgfI-00468-00095392-00095494 on how to use A5tDqYqZgfI-00469-00095495-00095823 zoom um how to use the laptops you know A5tDqYqZgfI-00470-00095824-00095999 how to plug things in and get things A5tDqYqZgfI-00471-00096000-00096062 moving A5tDqYqZgfI-00472-00096063-00096287 how to scan documents those sorts of A5tDqYqZgfI-00473-00096288-00096367 things that A5tDqYqZgfI-00474-00096368-00096518 so that they could still abide by the A5tDqYqZgfI-00475-00096519-00096791 law and still use virtual A5tDqYqZgfI-00476-00096792-00096991 courts so it's still a learning process A5tDqYqZgfI-00477-00096992-00097215 and um some of them are fine with it A5tDqYqZgfI-00478-00097216-00097318 some of them are not A5tDqYqZgfI-00479-00097319-00097526 so we we have to just keep advocating A5tDqYqZgfI-00480-00097527-00097638 and i i think A5tDqYqZgfI-00481-00097639-00097823 you know eventually it will be something A5tDqYqZgfI-00482-00097824-00097991 that they just use normally A5tDqYqZgfI-00483-00097992-00098215 yeah they are however though allowing A5tDqYqZgfI-00484-00098216-00098406 kids to stay at the detention facility A5tDqYqZgfI-00485-00098407-00098591 and access the court virtually A5tDqYqZgfI-00486-00098592-00098918 but the judge is just in session okay A5tDqYqZgfI-00487-00098919-00099150 very interesting another question how A5tDqYqZgfI-00488-00099151-00099267 did you deal with issues of A5tDqYqZgfI-00489-00099268-00099447 confidentiality security A5tDqYqZgfI-00490-00099448-00099711 child friendly legal aid record keeping A5tDqYqZgfI-00491-00099712-00099806 etc A5tDqYqZgfI-00492-00099807-00099974 yeah so there was a whole process that A5tDqYqZgfI-00493-00099975-00100174 was developed with the supreme court A5tDqYqZgfI-00494-00100175-00100303 justices A5tDqYqZgfI-00495-00100304-00100567 and this included scanning of documents A5tDqYqZgfI-00496-00100568-00100623 um A5tDqYqZgfI-00497-00100624-00100999 secure lines of communication A5tDqYqZgfI-00498-00101000-00101238 and courier services with with some of A5tDqYqZgfI-00499-00101239-00101447 the documents but mostly it was over A5tDqYqZgfI-00500-00101448-00101631 scanned situation um A5tDqYqZgfI-00501-00101632-00101943 and they we had it people work out um A5tDqYqZgfI-00502-00101944-00102206 how to do the security on the actual A5tDqYqZgfI-00503-00102207-00102471 virtual court itself okay A5tDqYqZgfI-00504-00102472-00102806 great um and i think and last question A5tDqYqZgfI-00505-00102807-00103047 does the virtual court also apply to A5tDqYqZgfI-00506-00103048-00103247 rohingya refugee camp or do you know the A5tDqYqZgfI-00507-00103248-00103415 situation of rohingya A5tDqYqZgfI-00508-00103416-00103702 children in conflict with the lao okay A5tDqYqZgfI-00509-00103703-00103927 so in the refugee camp they don't A5tDqYqZgfI-00510-00103928-00104127 actually have a formalized legal process A5tDqYqZgfI-00511-00104128-00104239 although they're meant to be A5tDqYqZgfI-00512-00104240-00104502 under bangladeshi law so but the camp A5tDqYqZgfI-00513-00104503-00104606 coordinators A5tDqYqZgfI-00514-00104607-00104806 um are the ones that usually end up A5tDqYqZgfI-00515-00104807-00105007 deciding what to do in a case A5tDqYqZgfI-00516-00105008-00105263 which we're also trying to advocate for A5tDqYqZgfI-00517-00105264-00105319 a A5tDqYqZgfI-00518-00105320-00105510 a different system because particularly A5tDqYqZgfI-00519-00105511-00105743 for violence against women and children A5tDqYqZgfI-00520-00105744-00106007 they minimize and um there's a there's A5tDqYqZgfI-00521-00106008-00106207 an issue there for us obviously A5tDqYqZgfI-00522-00106208-00106486 um but there were a lot of children from A5tDqYqZgfI-00523-00106488-00106678 the rohingya camps that have come in A5tDqYqZgfI-00524-00106679-00106807 conflict with the law A5tDqYqZgfI-00525-00106808-00107007 or contact with the law some in the safe A5tDqYqZgfI-00526-00107008-00107158 homes um A5tDqYqZgfI-00527-00107159-00107415 outside of the camps in cox's bazar A5tDqYqZgfI-00528-00107416-00107543 district itself A5tDqYqZgfI-00529-00107544-00107734 um and they were they were part of this A5tDqYqZgfI-00530-00107735-00107902 virtual system and a number of them have A5tDqYqZgfI-00531-00107903-00107999 been now back home A5tDqYqZgfI-00532-00108000-00108231 with their families in the camps okay A5tDqYqZgfI-00533-00108232-00108463 great i mean we do see that it's really A5tDqYqZgfI-00534-00108464-00108558 important to A5tDqYqZgfI-00535-00108559-00108895 to advocate for for equal access to A5tDqYqZgfI-00536-00108896-00109063 these kind of core child protection A5tDqYqZgfI-00537-00109064-00109366 services including for refugees so it's A5tDqYqZgfI-00538-00109367-00109502 great to see that you're working A5tDqYqZgfI-00539-00109503-00109671 together with the authorities to make A5tDqYqZgfI-00540-00109672-00109807 progress in that area A5tDqYqZgfI-00541-00109808-00109990 very yeah and we have good partnership A5tDqYqZgfI-00542-00109991-00110175 with unhcr here and and A5tDqYqZgfI-00543-00110176-00110358 and they've been very supportive of this A5tDqYqZgfI-00544-00110359-00110502 process too A5tDqYqZgfI-00545-00110503-00110727 excellent thanks well look that was A5tDqYqZgfI-00546-00110728-00110823 really fascinating A5tDqYqZgfI-00547-00110824-00111047 natalie um what we're going to do now is A5tDqYqZgfI-00548-00111048-00111278 we're going to launch a minty meter A5tDqYqZgfI-00549-00111279-00111623 um so if i can just ask uh if i can just A5tDqYqZgfI-00550-00111624-00111654 stop A5tDqYqZgfI-00551-00111655-00111902 mentions now we love 90 meters right A5tDqYqZgfI-00552-00111903-00112054 this is the new way A5tDqYqZgfI-00553-00112055-00112327 um so if i can just ask jessica's just A5tDqYqZgfI-00554-00112328-00112471 put the menti meter in A5tDqYqZgfI-00555-00112472-00112751 in the chat box if everybody could just A5tDqYqZgfI-00556-00112752-00112847 go to the A5tDqYqZgfI-00557-00112848-00113383 the link to get the question A5tDqYqZgfI-00558-00113383-00113558 so we'll just take a moment to allow A5tDqYqZgfI-00559-00113559-00113719 everyone i was supposed to do it before A5tDqYqZgfI-00560-00113720-00113799 but i forgot A5tDqYqZgfI-00561-00113800-00114054 sorry it's okay i was so well behaved i A5tDqYqZgfI-00562-00114055-00114223 did really quickly A5tDqYqZgfI-00563-00114224-00114519 yeah people can still hear you you know A5tDqYqZgfI-00564-00114520-00114678 i know A5tDqYqZgfI-00565-00114679-00115039 but it's like having a chat A5tDqYqZgfI-00566-00115040-00115366 okay so if we can just uh A5tDqYqZgfI-00567-00115367-00115534 jessica how are we going in terms of A5tDqYqZgfI-00568-00115535-00116031 responses on the mentee meter A5tDqYqZgfI-00569-00116032-00116351 not very many only three come on A5tDqYqZgfI-00570-00116352-00116543 come on team i'm going to start calling A5tDqYqZgfI-00571-00116544-00116710 out names of people A5tDqYqZgfI-00572-00116711-00117478 oh so they're coming in A5tDqYqZgfI-00573-00117479-00117783 yeah it's going up yeah they don't want A5tDqYqZgfI-00574-00117783-00118023 to be named A5tDqYqZgfI-00575-00118024-00118286 okay we just give it a few minutes um of A5tDqYqZgfI-00576-00118288-00118327 course A5tDqYqZgfI-00577-00118328-00118510 while we're doing that we can also if A5tDqYqZgfI-00578-00118511-00118751 there's any last questions to natalie or A5tDqYqZgfI-00579-00118752-00118951 to myself feel free to pop those in the A5tDqYqZgfI-00580-00118952-00119175 chat we'll we'll take them while people A5tDqYqZgfI-00581-00119176-00119199 are A5tDqYqZgfI-00582-00119200-00119510 completing the the the A5tDqYqZgfI-00583-00119511-00119734 minty meter i did actually have one A5tDqYqZgfI-00584-00119735-00119847 question myself A5tDqYqZgfI-00585-00119848-00120095 natalie you mentioned briefly the issue A5tDqYqZgfI-00586-00120096-00120254 of um A5tDqYqZgfI-00587-00120255-00120447 of diversion could you say a few more A5tDqYqZgfI-00588-00120448-00120599 words about diversion in A5tDqYqZgfI-00589-00120600-00120910 the context of of of of uh A5tDqYqZgfI-00590-00120911-00121127 bangladesh well we've seen it as an A5tDqYqZgfI-00591-00121128-00121358 opportunity to promote diversion because A5tDqYqZgfI-00592-00121359-00121566 um the police don't know what to do with A5tDqYqZgfI-00593-00121567-00121702 these kids because the probation A5tDqYqZgfI-00594-00121703-00121766 officers A5tDqYqZgfI-00595-00121767-00121934 are in a lot of the police stations at A5tDqYqZgfI-00596-00121935-00122078 the moment um A5tDqYqZgfI-00597-00122079-00122231 and they don't want to be sending them A5tDqYqZgfI-00598-00122232-00122423 to detention facilities so A5tDqYqZgfI-00599-00122424-00122607 we've seen that as another opportunity A5tDqYqZgfI-00600-00122608-00122799 to advocate for diversion more broadly A5tDqYqZgfI-00601-00122800-00122975 we've developed a guideline A5tDqYqZgfI-00602-00122976-00123190 and we've started training police A5tDqYqZgfI-00603-00123191-00123407 officers and we've been sending messages A5tDqYqZgfI-00604-00123408-00123607 down to the police stations A5tDqYqZgfI-00605-00123608-00123839 we've got support for children and women A5tDqYqZgfI-00606-00123840-00123927 help desks A5tDqYqZgfI-00607-00123928-00124271 that was part of the 2013 legislation A5tDqYqZgfI-00608-00124272-00124447 but again because of the rules it hasn't A5tDqYqZgfI-00609-00124448-00124614 really been rolled out and the funding A5tDqYqZgfI-00610-00124615-00124702 obviously A5tDqYqZgfI-00611-00124703-00124871 hasn't been there but we've got a lot A5tDqYqZgfI-00612-00124872-00125071 more support on this and other agencies A5tDqYqZgfI-00613-00125072-00125319 are also supporting this like un women A5tDqYqZgfI-00614-00125320-00125654 um unfpa and other ingo's like A5tDqYqZgfI-00615-00125655-00125951 save and plan as well so i think you A5tDqYqZgfI-00616-00125952-00126095 know i think we're moving in the right A5tDqYqZgfI-00617-00126096-00126223 direction but A5tDqYqZgfI-00618-00126224-00126551 um for me prevention is the best in A5tDqYqZgfI-00619-00126552-00126743 in all child protection so early A5tDqYqZgfI-00620-00126744-00126927 intervention increasing social workers A5tDqYqZgfI-00621-00126928-00127095 making sure casework is there for these A5tDqYqZgfI-00622-00127096-00127166 families A5tDqYqZgfI-00623-00127167-00127319 the kids that are getting arrested are A5tDqYqZgfI-00624-00127320-00127534 getting arrested for A5tDqYqZgfI-00625-00127535-00127766 things because associated with A5tDqYqZgfI-00626-00127767-00127958 socioeconomic issues A5tDqYqZgfI-00627-00127959-00128214 or violence at home not having access to A5tDqYqZgfI-00628-00128215-00128319 schools so A5tDqYqZgfI-00629-00128320-00128590 those things can be worked out in case A5tDqYqZgfI-00630-00128591-00128654 management A5tDqYqZgfI-00631-00128655-00128919 can be workflowed can be prevented um A5tDqYqZgfI-00632-00128920-00129102 and with diversion we can prevent it at A5tDqYqZgfI-00633-00129103-00129247 another level because these families can A5tDqYqZgfI-00634-00129248-00129399 be identified A5tDqYqZgfI-00635-00129400-00129678 great thank you very much so now i want A5tDqYqZgfI-00636-00129679-00129719 to A5tDqYqZgfI-00637-00129720-00129943 ask yes in fact i didn't even have to A5tDqYqZgfI-00638-00129944-00130175 ask it seems that jessica read my mind A5tDqYqZgfI-00639-00130176-00130486 thanks jessica so um are you able to A5tDqYqZgfI-00640-00130488-00130631 make that a little bit ah A5tDqYqZgfI-00641-00130632-00131166 perfect okay so now uh A5tDqYqZgfI-00642-00131167-00131423 yeah it's a little small um i'm going to A5tDqYqZgfI-00643-00131424-00131590 have to try to remember so the first A5tDqYqZgfI-00644-00131591-00131711 question is how A5tDqYqZgfI-00645-00131712-00132039 how is covet affected um what are the A5tDqYqZgfI-00646-00132040-00132263 three most important negative effects of A5tDqYqZgfI-00647-00132264-00132366 covet A5tDqYqZgfI-00648-00132367-00132839 so um basically it seems the biggest one A5tDqYqZgfI-00649-00132840-00133207 is delays in judicial proceedings A5tDqYqZgfI-00650-00133208-00133511 um such as longer times so that seems to A5tDqYqZgfI-00651-00133512-00133575 be one A5tDqYqZgfI-00652-00133576-00133911 and violence against and violence A5tDqYqZgfI-00653-00133912-00134166 against children was the second one A5tDqYqZgfI-00654-00134167-00134495 increasing violence increasingly in A5tDqYqZgfI-00655-00134496-00134751 all of the countries you know yeah yeah A5tDqYqZgfI-00656-00134752-00134878 so we've seen those two A5tDqYqZgfI-00657-00134879-00135111 key elements and and then the pink one A5tDqYqZgfI-00658-00135112-00135319 you can see i'm really trying to read A5tDqYqZgfI-00659-00135320-00135527 increase in children in conflict with A5tDqYqZgfI-00660-00135528-00135719 the lord due to the lack of A5tDqYqZgfI-00661-00135720-00136007 i mean children being locked out uh not A5tDqYqZgfI-00662-00136008-00136166 able to access school or A5tDqYqZgfI-00663-00136167-00136502 increase in in economic issues and then A5tDqYqZgfI-00664-00136503-00136702 after that we have number six which is A5tDqYqZgfI-00665-00136703-00136847 increase in children in A5tDqYqZgfI-00666-00136848-00137111 in contact with the law due to covert A5tDqYqZgfI-00667-00137112-00137283 testing A5tDqYqZgfI-00668-00137284-00137590 regulations oh no sorry number nine A5tDqYqZgfI-00669-00137591-00137990 uh that one A5tDqYqZgfI-00670-00137991-00138314 sorry A5tDqYqZgfI-00671-00138315-00138695 deterioration yeah A5tDqYqZgfI-00672-00138696-00138895 yeah deterioration great so that's what A5tDqYqZgfI-00673-00138896-00139078 we see are some of the negative impacts A5tDqYqZgfI-00674-00139079-00139295 can we move to the next question which A5tDqYqZgfI-00675-00139296-00139671 is more about the positive opportunities A5tDqYqZgfI-00676-00139672-00140102 so um so jessica can you just explain do A5tDqYqZgfI-00677-00140103-00140199 people have to go back A5tDqYqZgfI-00678-00140200-00140431 and and go to the sec the same link and A5tDqYqZgfI-00679-00140432-00140631 they'll go to the second question A5tDqYqZgfI-00680-00140632-00140854 exactly so that same link and then they A5tDqYqZgfI-00681-00140855-00140999 should be on the second question A5tDqYqZgfI-00682-00141000-00141359 okay great so we just wait a moment for A5tDqYqZgfI-00683-00141360-00141463 the second question A5tDqYqZgfI-00684-00141464-00141647 so i think you know what what is A5tDqYqZgfI-00685-00141648-00141799 interesting about this is we've seen A5tDqYqZgfI-00686-00141800-00141839 many A5tDqYqZgfI-00687-00141840-00142159 many negative effects but also as as A5tDqYqZgfI-00688-00142160-00142399 um natalie and our other colleagues were A5tDqYqZgfI-00689-00142400-00142502 highlighting A5tDqYqZgfI-00690-00142503-00142823 uh we see many opportunities to be able A5tDqYqZgfI-00691-00142824-00142878 to A5tDqYqZgfI-00692-00142879-00143126 address some of the challenges um and A5tDqYqZgfI-00693-00143127-00143239 opportunities A5tDqYqZgfI-00694-00143240-00143575 uh for very rapid and and very A5tDqYqZgfI-00695-00143576-00143751 structural reforms A5tDqYqZgfI-00696-00143752-00144007 so it's really quite a mixed bag but A5tDqYqZgfI-00697-00144008-00144078 really A5tDqYqZgfI-00698-00144079-00144271 that we see this window of opportunity A5tDqYqZgfI-00699-00144272-00144431 if we're able to mobilize the right A5tDqYqZgfI-00700-00144432-00144639 political will as well as the resources A5tDqYqZgfI-00701-00144640-00144783 to be able to make A5tDqYqZgfI-00702-00144784-00144990 a huge change in the lives of these A5tDqYqZgfI-00703-00144991-00145087 children A5tDqYqZgfI-00704-00145088-00145319 so we see basically here the release of A5tDqYqZgfI-00705-00145320-00145399 children A5tDqYqZgfI-00706-00145400-00145671 um yes in terms of this is also one of A5tDqYqZgfI-00707-00145672-00145814 the things i think we see A5tDqYqZgfI-00708-00145815-00146007 it came up in your presentation natalie A5tDqYqZgfI-00709-00146008-00146166 as well as a number of other colleagues A5tDqYqZgfI-00710-00146167-00146278 presentations A5tDqYqZgfI-00711-00146279-00146502 that in fact governments are much more A5tDqYqZgfI-00712-00146503-00146583 willing A5tDqYqZgfI-00713-00146584-00146766 and authorities are much more willing to A5tDqYqZgfI-00714-00146767-00147047 release uh children from covert because A5tDqYqZgfI-00715-00147048-00147326 i assume and what would be your what A5tDqYqZgfI-00716-00147327-00147487 from your experience natalie what was A5tDqYqZgfI-00717-00147488-00147566 the reason A5tDqYqZgfI-00718-00147567-00147775 behind that willingness from the A5tDqYqZgfI-00719-00147776-00147878 authorities A5tDqYqZgfI-00720-00147879-00148190 because of risk well one because their A5tDqYqZgfI-00721-00148191-00148343 staff weren't turning up A5tDqYqZgfI-00722-00148344-00148502 so they knew the children were at more A5tDqYqZgfI-00723-00148503-00148647 risk so there was less staff in the A5tDqYqZgfI-00724-00148648-00148799 detention facilities A5tDqYqZgfI-00725-00148800-00148983 um but two they were worried that there A5tDqYqZgfI-00726-00148984-00149199 would be an outbreak of covert and how A5tDqYqZgfI-00727-00149200-00149254 that A5tDqYqZgfI-00728-00149255-00149414 you know the aesthetics of that how that A5tDqYqZgfI-00729-00149415-00149599 would look um i guess A5tDqYqZgfI-00730-00149600-00149766 for us moving forward is how do we A5tDqYqZgfI-00731-00149767-00149902 maximize that to A5tDqYqZgfI-00732-00149903-00150143 for to not just be about preventing A5tDqYqZgfI-00733-00150144-00150311 infection rates of covert A5tDqYqZgfI-00734-00150312-00150566 how do we maximize this to ensure that A5tDqYqZgfI-00735-00150567-00150766 detention is a last resort that this is A5tDqYqZgfI-00736-00150767-00150966 not something that's a go-to A5tDqYqZgfI-00737-00150967-00151214 option um and that there are other A5tDqYqZgfI-00738-00151215-00151399 options like diversion and like A5tDqYqZgfI-00739-00151400-00151543 making sure that we have strong child A5tDqYqZgfI-00740-00151544-00151743 protection systems and referral pathways A5tDqYqZgfI-00741-00151744-00151911 at the community level A5tDqYqZgfI-00742-00151912-00152199 great thanks natalie uh jessica can i A5tDqYqZgfI-00743-00152200-00152407 just ask you to put back the A5tDqYqZgfI-00744-00152408-00152678 the presentation please the mentee A5tDqYqZgfI-00745-00152679-00152959 menti-meter A5tDqYqZgfI-00746-00152960-00153319 results okay so we see the second one is A5tDqYqZgfI-00747-00153320-00153407 greater A5tDqYqZgfI-00748-00153408-00153607 use of alternatives to detention and A5tDqYqZgfI-00749-00153608-00153726 that indeed was A5tDqYqZgfI-00750-00153727-00154054 was i is is really true we've seen that A5tDqYqZgfI-00751-00154055-00154190 in many countries A5tDqYqZgfI-00752-00154191-00154375 around immigration detention that A5tDqYqZgfI-00753-00154376-00154526 actually authorities are much more A5tDqYqZgfI-00754-00154527-00154695 willing to look for alternatives to A5tDqYqZgfI-00755-00154696-00154887 detention and we heard that in A5tDqYqZgfI-00756-00154888-00155087 also in your settings and the number of A5tDqYqZgfI-00757-00155088-00155254 presentations before A5tDqYqZgfI-00758-00155255-00155614 as well as increased political will A5tDqYqZgfI-00759-00155615-00155919 to address the reform of of justice for A5tDqYqZgfI-00760-00155920-00156007 children A5tDqYqZgfI-00761-00156008-00156302 um and greater attention to justice for A5tDqYqZgfI-00762-00156303-00156463 children in the humanitarian response i A5tDqYqZgfI-00763-00156464-00156631 have to say in all my years A5tDqYqZgfI-00764-00156632-00156863 of working in in humanitarian settings A5tDqYqZgfI-00765-00156864-00156975 i've never seen A5tDqYqZgfI-00766-00156976-00157207 this issue be such high profile so i A5tDqYqZgfI-00767-00157208-00157359 think it's a real A5tDqYqZgfI-00768-00157360-00157599 yeah really opportunity for us to really A5tDqYqZgfI-00769-00157600-00157695 tackle this A5tDqYqZgfI-00770-00157696-00157878 and the last one that got a lot of votes A5tDqYqZgfI-00771-00157879-00158126 using obviously the increased use and A5tDqYqZgfI-00772-00158127-00158295 of technology to improve the A5tDqYqZgfI-00773-00158296-00158454 accessibility and A5tDqYqZgfI-00774-00158455-00158839 and um accessibility and and also the A5tDqYqZgfI-00775-00158840-00158999 quality and coming back to i think A5tDqYqZgfI-00776-00159000-00159199 something mata mentioned in the previous A5tDqYqZgfI-00777-00159200-00159366 session is really the importance of A5tDqYqZgfI-00778-00159367-00159502 child participation A5tDqYqZgfI-00779-00159503-00159726 how bringing the justice system closer A5tDqYqZgfI-00780-00159727-00159878 to children A5tDqYqZgfI-00781-00159879-00160078 and their lives and making it more A5tDqYqZgfI-00782-00160079-00160319 accessible really facilitates that child A5tDqYqZgfI-00783-00160320-00160526 participation as well as the quality of A5tDqYqZgfI-00784-00160527-00160631 the justice A5tDqYqZgfI-00785-00160632-00160839 so great thank you very much for that A5tDqYqZgfI-00786-00160840-00160999 what we're going to do now A5tDqYqZgfI-00787-00161000-00161302 um is really move towards uh the A5tDqYqZgfI-00788-00161303-00161647 some small group discussion so um A5tDqYqZgfI-00789-00161648-00161926 jessica i just going to remind people A5tDqYqZgfI-00790-00161927-00162031 we're going to A5tDqYqZgfI-00791-00162032-00162207 uh we're going to ask pretty much the A5tDqYqZgfI-00792-00162208-00162439 same question which is basically A5tDqYqZgfI-00793-00162440-00162711 what uh what recommendations should be A5tDqYqZgfI-00794-00162712-00162895 made to strengthen the protection of A5tDqYqZgfI-00795-00162896-00163111 children deprived of liberty by A5tDqYqZgfI-00796-00163112-00163414 um affected by covid so jessica how many A5tDqYqZgfI-00797-00163415-00163583 how many groups are you going to put A5tDqYqZgfI-00798-00163584-00163823 people into today now A5tDqYqZgfI-00799-00163824-00164126 um five actually i might do four as A5tDqYqZgfI-00800-00164127-00164390 a few dropped off that would be great if A5tDqYqZgfI-00801-00164391-00164590 you can pop people in four groups A5tDqYqZgfI-00802-00164591-00164807 and then um basically as per the A5tDqYqZgfI-00803-00164808-00164959 previous ones if you can use A5tDqYqZgfI-00804-00164960-00165351 the if you can use the um the jamboard A5tDqYqZgfI-00805-00165352-00165543 and then we'll also ask you actually A5tDqYqZgfI-00806-00165544-00165719 we'll share with you in the groups A5tDqYqZgfI-00807-00165720-00165902 a mentee meter where you can actually A5tDqYqZgfI-00808-00165903-00166159 put your your responses in minty meter A5tDqYqZgfI-00809-00166160-00166319 so that they'll be screening when we A5tDqYqZgfI-00810-00166320-00166519 come back into the group so A5tDqYqZgfI-00811-00166520-00166687 great if you could move everyone now A5tDqYqZgfI-00812-00166688-00166871 thanks jessica A5tDqYqZgfI-00813-00166872-00167166 okay we can i mean let's see how we have A5tDqYqZgfI-00814-00167167-00167375 10 more minutes so maybe we can see A5tDqYqZgfI-00815-00167376-00167671 if colleagues we can we can do the A5tDqYqZgfI-00816-00167672-00167878 update and then continue to use the time A5tDqYqZgfI-00817-00167879-00167902 in A5tDqYqZgfI-00818-00167903-00168087 in plenary because we're not so many if A5tDqYqZgfI-00819-00168088-00168271 that's okay with everyone A5tDqYqZgfI-00820-00168272-00168631 yeah okay great there was a point about A5tDqYqZgfI-00821-00168632-00168790 detention facilities that was just A5tDqYqZgfI-00822-00168791-00168935 raised in our group and i think it would A5tDqYqZgfI-00823-00168936-00169014 be good to A5tDqYqZgfI-00824-00169015-00169366 to come back yeah because i think A5tDqYqZgfI-00825-00169367-00169559 i've got a suggestion for that that may A5tDqYqZgfI-00826-00169560-00169711 be a bit different to what they were A5tDqYqZgfI-00827-00169712-00169831 thinking A5tDqYqZgfI-00828-00169832-00170271 okay great um okay so let's is everybody A5tDqYqZgfI-00829-00170272-00170447 back A5tDqYqZgfI-00830-00170448-00170838 uh online A5tDqYqZgfI-00831-00170839-00171231 it looks like it jessica 25 A5tDqYqZgfI-00832-00171232-00171695 yeah okay excellent so jessica A5tDqYqZgfI-00833-00171696-00171983 yeah so natalie if i can hand over you A5tDqYqZgfI-00834-00171984-00172031 to you A5tDqYqZgfI-00835-00172032-00172247 to have a look and and and make some A5tDqYqZgfI-00836-00172248-00172375 reflections on some of the A5tDqYqZgfI-00837-00172376-00172559 recommendations that are coming up A5tDqYqZgfI-00838-00172560-00172799 is it possible to make that a little A5tDqYqZgfI-00839-00172800-00172990 bigger jessica because it's quite hard A5tDqYqZgfI-00840-00172991-00173119 to read A5tDqYqZgfI-00841-00173120-00173487 and i'm old now i've got to wear glasses A5tDqYqZgfI-00842-00173488-00173759 if you make it full screen everybody if A5tDqYqZgfI-00843-00173760-00173943 you make it full screen it's actually A5tDqYqZgfI-00844-00173944-00174047 easier A5tDqYqZgfI-00845-00174048-00174223 yeah i think that's the best way or i A5tDqYqZgfI-00846-00174224-00174351 can just zoom in A5tDqYqZgfI-00847-00174352-00174711 does that work yeah yeah A5tDqYqZgfI-00848-00174712-00175054 and then i can move the bit around A5tDqYqZgfI-00849-00175055-00175359 yeah so same elisa it's uh anna-lysa A5tDqYqZgfI-00850-00175360-00175414 sorry A5tDqYqZgfI-00851-00175415-00175726 it's the same uh meter link as before if A5tDqYqZgfI-00852-00175727-00175847 you want to add A5tDqYqZgfI-00853-00175848-00176207 so yeah jessica A5tDqYqZgfI-00854-00176208-00176566 sorry jessica i see your name A5tDqYqZgfI-00855-00176567-00176878 on it uh so uh A5tDqYqZgfI-00856-00176879-00177102 natalie if you'd just be able to maybe A5tDqYqZgfI-00857-00177103-00177375 read through some of the recommendations A5tDqYqZgfI-00858-00177376-00177599 yeah i can see here that there's um and A5tDqYqZgfI-00859-00177600-00177743 when you had it on the biggest screen as A5tDqYqZgfI-00860-00177744-00177878 well so jessica it's okay because i've A5tDqYqZgfI-00861-00177879-00178038 got my big screen here in my little A5tDqYqZgfI-00862-00178039-00178166 screen here A5tDqYqZgfI-00863-00178167-00178447 if you can put it back on yes perfect A5tDqYqZgfI-00864-00178448-00178583 okay so i can see that A5tDqYqZgfI-00865-00178584-00178751 there was a couple of different ones A5tDqYqZgfI-00866-00178752-00178943 that were talking about data analysis A5tDqYqZgfI-00867-00178944-00179287 um and looking at uh A5tDqYqZgfI-00868-00179288-00179438 children that are detained and what's A5tDqYqZgfI-00869-00179439-00179599 the makeup of those children i think A5tDqYqZgfI-00870-00179600-00179775 that's a really important one A5tDqYqZgfI-00871-00179776-00180087 particularly in regards to looking at A5tDqYqZgfI-00872-00180088-00180399 um possible prevention A5tDqYqZgfI-00873-00180400-00180783 options for us but also divert them from A5tDqYqZgfI-00874-00180784-00180935 the prop system A5tDqYqZgfI-00875-00180936-00181295 um there's also ensuring authorities do A5tDqYqZgfI-00876-00181296-00181590 not use arbitrary A5tDqYqZgfI-00877-00181591-00181863 procedures um making sure that we use A5tDqYqZgfI-00878-00181864-00181975 the highest level A5tDqYqZgfI-00879-00181976-00182278 of of government to ensure A5tDqYqZgfI-00880-00182279-00182566 pardons and that petty cases are A5tDqYqZgfI-00881-00182567-00182687 expedited A5tDqYqZgfI-00882-00182688-00182926 um looking at individual case management A5tDqYqZgfI-00883-00182927-00183038 ensuring we increase A5tDqYqZgfI-00884-00183039-00183223 individual case management making sure A5tDqYqZgfI-00885-00183224-00183471 we have strong relationships A5tDqYqZgfI-00886-00183472-00183783 with uh juvenile justice actors um A5tDqYqZgfI-00887-00183784-00184007 for us in bangladesh to be at the A5tDqYqZgfI-00888-00184008-00184126 highest level A5tDqYqZgfI-00889-00184127-00184399 um working on adaptation of the justice A5tDqYqZgfI-00890-00184400-00184471 system A5tDqYqZgfI-00891-00184472-00184807 um covert context with state actors and A5tDqYqZgfI-00892-00184808-00184966 non-state actors A5tDqYqZgfI-00893-00184967-00185159 ensuring that uh oh i already did that A5tDqYqZgfI-00894-00185160-00185438 one i already did that one A5tDqYqZgfI-00895-00185439-00185654 okay so it just keeps flowing up that's A5tDqYqZgfI-00896-00185655-00185895 lovely so then if i miss things it comes A5tDqYqZgfI-00897-00185896-00186014 back A5tDqYqZgfI-00898-00186015-00186343 we love the metameter A5tDqYqZgfI-00899-00186344-00186526 yeah so i think i think it's i think A5tDqYqZgfI-00900-00186527-00186863 we're done A5tDqYqZgfI-00901-00186864-00187023 sorry i didn't have a way to stop it A5tDqYqZgfI-00902-00187024-00187366 scrolling like that it's just A5tDqYqZgfI-00903-00187367-00187647 no problem yeah okay so we're all A5tDqYqZgfI-00904-00187648-00187799 learning it's all a journey on A5tDqYqZgfI-00905-00187800-00188063 learning how to do all of these kind of A5tDqYqZgfI-00906-00188064-00188166 things online A5tDqYqZgfI-00907-00188167-00188359 so i think that we actually have a few A5tDqYqZgfI-00908-00188360-00188535 minutes if colleagues would like A5tDqYqZgfI-00909-00188536-00188726 to from the different groups we can just A5tDqYqZgfI-00910-00188727-00188838 hear some A5tDqYqZgfI-00911-00188839-00189095 um some additional reflections on A5tDqYqZgfI-00912-00189096-00189166 thoughts A5tDqYqZgfI-00913-00189167-00189438 and we'll basically take a take a moment A5tDqYqZgfI-00914-00189439-00189631 to go around each of the groups A5tDqYqZgfI-00915-00189632-00189831 so let's start with and i just raised A5tDqYqZgfI-00916-00189832-00189943 something because something A5tDqYqZgfI-00917-00189944-00190150 really critical in our in our session A5tDqYqZgfI-00918-00190151-00190335 was coming up at the end and he got cut A5tDqYqZgfI-00919-00190336-00190614 off thomas are you still there A5tDqYqZgfI-00920-00190615-00190863 um so thomas works in south sudan and he A5tDqYqZgfI-00921-00190864-00191063 was saying that his system A5tDqYqZgfI-00922-00191064-00191231 of justice is obviously needs A5tDqYqZgfI-00923-00191232-00191487 strengthening like all of the systems A5tDqYqZgfI-00924-00191488-00191790 um and i imagine also virtual access was A5tDqYqZgfI-00925-00191791-00191847 not really A5tDqYqZgfI-00926-00191848-00192087 possible but he said that one they've A5tDqYqZgfI-00927-00192088-00192271 only got one detention facility A5tDqYqZgfI-00928-00192272-00192599 um and how we can increase the detention A5tDqYqZgfI-00929-00192600-00192678 facilities A5tDqYqZgfI-00930-00192679-00193038 um so that more kids can have access to A5tDqYqZgfI-00931-00193039-00193247 detention but i guess better facilities A5tDqYqZgfI-00932-00193248-00193407 because one detention facility is A5tDqYqZgfI-00933-00193408-00193702 overrun um i guess we all know that A5tDqYqZgfI-00934-00193703-00193895 obviously detention is a last resort and A5tDqYqZgfI-00935-00193896-00193959 we want to A5tDqYqZgfI-00936-00193960-00194190 promote diversion that's that's the way A5tDqYqZgfI-00937-00194191-00194319 we want to go so we want to A5tDqYqZgfI-00938-00194320-00194623 increase the systems at the preventative A5tDqYqZgfI-00939-00194624-00194814 side so we can increase diversion but we A5tDqYqZgfI-00940-00194815-00194983 also need to ensure that children are A5tDqYqZgfI-00941-00194984-00195023 safe A5tDqYqZgfI-00942-00195024-00195231 in in these facilities if you've only A5tDqYqZgfI-00943-00195232-00195463 got one facility or two facilities A5tDqYqZgfI-00944-00195464-00195695 and there there's too many kids in there A5tDqYqZgfI-00945-00195696-00195863 and they're not looking too good A5tDqYqZgfI-00946-00195864-00196175 you can start advocating for diversion A5tDqYqZgfI-00947-00196176-00196366 and for community based options you can A5tDqYqZgfI-00948-00196367-00196559 use that as a catalyst A5tDqYqZgfI-00949-00196560-00196863 just like covert you can twist it to use A5tDqYqZgfI-00950-00196864-00197014 it as a catalyst for A5tDqYqZgfI-00951-00197015-00197183 saying this is why detention's not going A5tDqYqZgfI-00952-00197184-00197390 to work because we can't get money A5tDqYqZgfI-00953-00197391-00197550 to help you to build another one that's A5tDqYqZgfI-00954-00197551-00197735 not an option so let's A5tDqYqZgfI-00955-00197736-00197871 these are some options that have been A5tDqYqZgfI-00956-00197872-00198078 done in other places let's get the kids A5tDqYqZgfI-00957-00198079-00198207 out of here A5tDqYqZgfI-00958-00198208-00198390 and that's definitely worked in other A5tDqYqZgfI-00959-00198391-00198599 countries i know that it's definitely A5tDqYqZgfI-00960-00198600-00198743 worked in the philippines A5tDqYqZgfI-00961-00198744-00198959 it has certainly worked in sudan in some A5tDqYqZgfI-00962-00198960-00199150 locations in some parts of the pacific A5tDqYqZgfI-00963-00199151-00199335 it has worked as well in the past A5tDqYqZgfI-00964-00199336-00199526 but it's been a development approach A5tDqYqZgfI-00965-00199527-00199783 rather than an emergency A5tDqYqZgfI-00966-00199784-00200150 yeah i don't know if thomas wanted to A5tDqYqZgfI-00967-00200151-00200183 add A5tDqYqZgfI-00968-00200184-00200487 that yeah i i see thomas here thomas A5tDqYqZgfI-00969-00200488-00200854 would you like to add A5tDqYqZgfI-00970-00200855-00201183 all right okay A5tDqYqZgfI-00971-00201184-00201502 in south sudan uh i'm i'm A5tDqYqZgfI-00972-00201503-00201878 from south sudan irc in south sudan A5tDqYqZgfI-00973-00201879-00202199 there is only one juvenile center A5tDqYqZgfI-00974-00202200-00202519 that can serve for A5tDqYqZgfI-00975-00202520-00202863 children or any under 18 children A5tDqYqZgfI-00976-00202864-00203175 in most of the location out of that the A5tDqYqZgfI-00977-00203176-00203247 center is A5tDqYqZgfI-00978-00203248-00203566 in uh the main capital city in juba A5tDqYqZgfI-00979-00203567-00203871 but in the other locations uh where A5tDqYqZgfI-00980-00203872-00204263 their children was in contact with law A5tDqYqZgfI-00981-00204264-00204483 they are detained together with the A5tDqYqZgfI-00982-00204484-00204599 adult A5tDqYqZgfI-00983-00204600-00205079 there is no separate space to A5tDqYqZgfI-00984-00205080-00205342 accommodate them so they detain them A5tDqYqZgfI-00985-00205344-00205519 together with the adults A5tDqYqZgfI-00986-00205519-00205823 there are so many uh child protection A5tDqYqZgfI-00987-00205823-00206271 issues uh raised even in those centers A5tDqYqZgfI-00988-00206271-00206590 so while we strengthening or improving A5tDqYqZgfI-00989-00206591-00206990 this the justice system for children A5tDqYqZgfI-00990-00206991-00207286 we need to consider the capacity A5tDqYqZgfI-00991-00207287-00207366 building of A5tDqYqZgfI-00992-00207367-00207582 the local or the government or justice A5tDqYqZgfI-00993-00207583-00207686 system A5tDqYqZgfI-00994-00207687-00208014 uh that that would be one of my uh A5tDqYqZgfI-00995-00208015-00208358 point the other one is at least A5tDqYqZgfI-00996-00208359-00208727 uh if if the government continue A5tDqYqZgfI-00997-00208728-00209038 detaining those children was A5tDqYqZgfI-00998-00209039-00209351 in conflict with law at least A5tDqYqZgfI-00999-00209352-00209655 it's good to have a separate space A5tDqYqZgfI-01000-00209656-00209975 for those kind of situation A5tDqYqZgfI-01001-00209976-00210175 the other one is there is no child A5tDqYqZgfI-01002-00210176-00210334 friendly court A5tDqYqZgfI-01003-00210335-00210671 system or so it's it's also one of A5tDqYqZgfI-01004-00210671-00210934 the advocacy area that we need to focus A5tDqYqZgfI-01005-00210935-00211087 on A5tDqYqZgfI-01006-00211088-00211319 yeah these are some of my addition thank A5tDqYqZgfI-01007-00211319-00211482 you excellent A5tDqYqZgfI-01008-00211483-00211791 thanks i think that's a good idea like A5tDqYqZgfI-01009-00211792-00211967 focus on the capacity building at that A5tDqYqZgfI-01010-00211967-00212175 local level and improving A5tDqYqZgfI-01011-00212176-00212415 proving the facilities there yeah A5tDqYqZgfI-01012-00212416-00212519 excellent A5tDqYqZgfI-01013-00212519-00212839 so now if i can just ask uh anybody else A5tDqYqZgfI-01014-00212840-00212879 from A5tDqYqZgfI-01015-00212880-00213039 any of the other groups would like to A5tDqYqZgfI-01016-00213040-00213246 volunteer to add we have about three A5tDqYqZgfI-01017-00213248-00213358 minutes A5tDqYqZgfI-01018-00213359-00213527 um before we need to make some A5tDqYqZgfI-01019-00213528-00213663 concluding wrap-up A5tDqYqZgfI-01020-00213664-00214134 uh statements A5tDqYqZgfI-01021-00214135-00214487 please go ahead yeah in our group we A5tDqYqZgfI-01022-00214488-00214623 were also discussing A5tDqYqZgfI-01023-00214623-00214855 to think something about uh building A5tDqYqZgfI-01024-00214856-00215103 capacity of the juvenile justice A5tDqYqZgfI-01025-00215104-00215367 authorities uh maybe it is not necessary A5tDqYqZgfI-01026-00215367-00215503 that all the the A5tDqYqZgfI-01027-00215504-00215734 the competent authority they know about A5tDqYqZgfI-01028-00215735-00215887 the children's right and different A5tDqYqZgfI-01029-00215888-00216006 context it is different A5tDqYqZgfI-01030-00216007-00216319 ideas so there is also need that and we A5tDqYqZgfI-01031-00216319-00216367 are also A5tDqYqZgfI-01032-00216367-00216679 speaking to to take this opportunity and A5tDqYqZgfI-01033-00216680-00217006 speed up the the reintegration process A5tDqYqZgfI-01034-00217007-00217239 with linking them children and community A5tDqYqZgfI-01035-00217240-00217358 with some kinds of A5tDqYqZgfI-01036-00217359-00217615 services like maybe livelihood and there A5tDqYqZgfI-01037-00217616-00217823 is need of some kinds of awareness A5tDqYqZgfI-01038-00217823-00218015 awareness raising component we can link A5tDqYqZgfI-01039-00218016-00218191 with the the community A5tDqYqZgfI-01040-00218192-00218527 and also uh we have this is also A5tDqYqZgfI-01041-00218528-00218791 one opportunity we can uh segregate the A5tDqYqZgfI-01042-00218792-00218958 need of the children according to their A5tDqYqZgfI-01043-00218959-00219046 age because A5tDqYqZgfI-01044-00219048-00219263 they are in the children the contact A5tDqYqZgfI-01045-00219264-00219455 with law they may be different kinds of A5tDqYqZgfI-01046-00219456-00219534 age there A5tDqYqZgfI-01047-00219535-00219751 and their needs are different so this is A5tDqYqZgfI-01048-00219752-00219903 also one good opportunity A5tDqYqZgfI-01049-00219904-00220127 uh if you can prioritize their their A5tDqYqZgfI-01050-00220128-00220334 child protection need A5tDqYqZgfI-01051-00220335-00220534 excellent thank you so much for those A5tDqYqZgfI-01052-00220535-00220663 thoughts um A5tDqYqZgfI-01053-00220664-00220846 any other colleagues who would like to A5tDqYqZgfI-01054-00220848-00221046 add and i'll just ask colleagues if A5tDqYqZgfI-01055-00221048-00221206 there's anything that you feel A5tDqYqZgfI-01056-00221207-00221375 that you discussed in your group that A5tDqYqZgfI-01057-00221376-00221527 hasn't come up so far A5tDqYqZgfI-01058-00221528-00221903 if you'd just be able to to put it uh A5tDqYqZgfI-01059-00221904-00222134 you know to add that anybody who would A5tDqYqZgfI-01060-00222135-00222215 like to speak A5tDqYqZgfI-01061-00222216-00222415 feel free to put up your hands open your A5tDqYqZgfI-01062-00222416-00222623 mic A5tDqYqZgfI-01063-00222623-00223294 hello hello A5tDqYqZgfI-01064-00223296-00223775 okay this is nabil from ethiopia unicef A5tDqYqZgfI-01065-00223776-00224087 please go ahead okay uh A5tDqYqZgfI-01066-00224088-00224239 some of the things that we discussed in A5tDqYqZgfI-01067-00224240-00224455 our group is that uh mentioned by back A5tDqYqZgfI-01068-00224456-00224703 by my colleague but uh i want to A5tDqYqZgfI-01069-00224704-00224879 capitalize the discussion that we had A5tDqYqZgfI-01070-00224880-00225015 mainly A5tDqYqZgfI-01071-00225016-00225198 on the focusing on the authority A5tDqYqZgfI-01072-00225200-00225375 capacity building in order to A5tDqYqZgfI-01073-00225376-00225671 release uh children with different A5tDqYqZgfI-01074-00225671-00225871 protection concerns and this is what A5tDqYqZgfI-01075-00225871-00226175 we're currently doing in ethiopia like A5tDqYqZgfI-01076-00226176-00226294 there was a discussion A5tDqYqZgfI-01077-00226296-00226542 uh going on with the justice system at A5tDqYqZgfI-01078-00226544-00226606 the federal A5tDqYqZgfI-01079-00226607-00226823 starting from veda level to the regional A5tDqYqZgfI-01080-00226823-00226919 level A5tDqYqZgfI-01081-00226919-00227294 at least this to release children's uh A5tDqYqZgfI-01082-00227296-00227455 was having contemplation concern A5tDqYqZgfI-01083-00227456-00227510 including A5tDqYqZgfI-01084-00227511-00227751 considering their age including pregnant A5tDqYqZgfI-01085-00227752-00227839 girls A5tDqYqZgfI-01086-00227840-00228006 those who are a primary caregiver for A5tDqYqZgfI-01087-00228007-00228246 their own and other children A5tDqYqZgfI-01088-00228248-00228503 and at the same time co-op also A5tDqYqZgfI-01089-00228504-00228742 suspected with the kovi 90 infection A5tDqYqZgfI-01090-00228744-00229015 and at the same time who have also that A5tDqYqZgfI-01091-00229016-00229127 doesn't do i mean A5tDqYqZgfI-01092-00229128-00229439 any serious uh low violation in the A5tDqYqZgfI-01093-00229440-00229679 systems A5tDqYqZgfI-01094-00229680-00229919 excellent thanks nabeel for those uh A5tDqYqZgfI-01095-00229919-00230023 those thoughts A5tDqYqZgfI-01096-00230023-00230215 and i just have we just have time for A5tDqYqZgfI-01097-00230216-00230415 one more comment before we're going to A5tDqYqZgfI-01098-00230416-00230646 have to wrap up i've asked our producer A5tDqYqZgfI-01099-00230648-00230879 jessica our fabulous producer to give us A5tDqYqZgfI-01100-00230880-00230991 two more minutes A5tDqYqZgfI-01101-00230992-00231182 but is there anyone else who who wants A5tDqYqZgfI-01102-00231183-00231367 to add from their perspective some of A5tDqYqZgfI-01103-00231367-00231687 the key recommendations just 30 seconds A5tDqYqZgfI-01104-00231688-00231991 just to add sorry can i thanks nabil i A5tDqYqZgfI-01105-00231992-00232158 just wanted to add that in our group we A5tDqYqZgfI-01106-00232159-00232319 also mentioned that maybe we need to A5tDqYqZgfI-01107-00232319-00232606 document some of these good practices A5tDqYqZgfI-01108-00232607-00232751 that have come up over the last few A5tDqYqZgfI-01109-00232752-00232927 months because in the last in the last A5tDqYqZgfI-01110-00232928-00232991 session A5tDqYqZgfI-01111-00232992-00233158 there was a number of really good A5tDqYqZgfI-01112-00233159-00233391 practices we've a lot of examples have A5tDqYqZgfI-01113-00233392-00233591 come up across different countries A5tDqYqZgfI-01114-00233592-00233871 um out of our groups today so i i'm just A5tDqYqZgfI-01115-00233871-00233958 putting that out there as a A5tDqYqZgfI-01116-00233959-00234142 recommendation maybe we need to document A5tDqYqZgfI-01117-00234144-00234223 some of A5tDqYqZgfI-01118-00234223-00234510 some of the success stories on this area A5tDqYqZgfI-01119-00234511-00234791 yes it's so rare in emergencies you know A5tDqYqZgfI-01120-00234792-00235015 indeed that's a great idea natalie and A5tDqYqZgfI-01121-00235016-00235182 we'll have to take that forward together A5tDqYqZgfI-01122-00235183-00235255 with her A5tDqYqZgfI-01123-00235256-00235415 bring it into the discussions of the A5tDqYqZgfI-01124-00235416-00235567 small groups A5tDqYqZgfI-01125-00235567-00235894 of the alliance excellent okay so now i A5tDqYqZgfI-01126-00235896-00235958 think we'll A5tDqYqZgfI-01127-00235959-00236142 we'll have to wrap up now so i just want A5tDqYqZgfI-01128-00236144-00236342 to give natalie if you could in like A5tDqYqZgfI-01129-00236344-00236519 you know 30 seconds highlight some of A5tDqYqZgfI-01130-00236519-00236671 your key key A5tDqYqZgfI-01131-00236671-00236910 concluding remarks i know that you know A5tDqYqZgfI-01132-00236911-00237079 it's always difficult because we've had A5tDqYqZgfI-01133-00237080-00237334 such a rich discussion and i will try to A5tDqYqZgfI-01134-00237335-00237558 do the same from my side over to you A5tDqYqZgfI-01135-00237559-00237655 natalie A5tDqYqZgfI-01136-00237656-00237831 look i think thanks everyone for your A5tDqYqZgfI-01137-00237832-00237998 contributions and i think even to the A5tDqYqZgfI-01138-00238000-00238158 last session as well and justice for A5tDqYqZgfI-01139-00238159-00238287 children and thanks amanda A5tDqYqZgfI-01140-00238288-00238558 also for leading both sessions look i A5tDqYqZgfI-01141-00238559-00238655 think it's A5tDqYqZgfI-01142-00238656-00238934 it's such an opportunity as we've both A5tDqYqZgfI-01143-00238935-00238982 said A5tDqYqZgfI-01144-00238983-00239231 we haven't seen this much movement in A5tDqYqZgfI-01145-00239232-00239310 this sector A5tDqYqZgfI-01146-00239311-00239598 in emergencies before and i think we can A5tDqYqZgfI-01147-00239600-00239815 capitalize on that it is an opportunity A5tDqYqZgfI-01148-00239816-00239879 we have A5tDqYqZgfI-01149-00239880-00240110 seen a lot of successes and it's about A5tDqYqZgfI-01150-00240111-00240231 how do we take this A5tDqYqZgfI-01151-00240232-00240567 now into a non-covered world how do we A5tDqYqZgfI-01152-00240567-00240879 take this success and make it A5tDqYqZgfI-01153-00240880-00241167 apply when covert isn't such a big issue A5tDqYqZgfI-01154-00241167-00241271 how can we make sure A5tDqYqZgfI-01155-00241271-00241446 kids aren't going into detention how can A5tDqYqZgfI-01156-00241448-00241639 we make sure kids have access to social A5tDqYqZgfI-01157-00241640-00241710 workers A5tDqYqZgfI-01158-00241711-00241919 and caseworkers and how can we make sure A5tDqYqZgfI-01159-00241919-00242071 that we prevent them from coming in A5tDqYqZgfI-01160-00242071-00242310 contact with the law A5tDqYqZgfI-01161-00242311-00242534 i felt like that was them buzzing me out A5tDqYqZgfI-01162-00242535-00242615 yeah that was A5tDqYqZgfI-01163-00242616-00242942 that was well timed thank you thank you A5tDqYqZgfI-01164-00242944-00243279 thank you yeah over great um A5tDqYqZgfI-01165-00243280-00243463 so yeah just from my side i wanted to A5tDqYqZgfI-01166-00243464-00243679 highlight maybe if we could just uh put A5tDqYqZgfI-01167-00243680-00243951 me on on on screen jessica A5tDqYqZgfI-01168-00243952-00244230 not sure if we we still see uh natalie A5tDqYqZgfI-01169-00244231-00244398 on the screen at least from my side but A5tDqYqZgfI-01170-00244400-00244598 just a few A5tDqYqZgfI-01171-00244600-00244879 okay great so a few opportunities for A5tDqYqZgfI-01172-00244880-00244951 reform A5tDqYqZgfI-01173-00244952-00245142 that i think are really important that A5tDqYqZgfI-01174-00245144-00245334 we've really seen for A5tDqYqZgfI-01175-00245335-00245534 seen from this first of all i mean the A5tDqYqZgfI-01176-00245535-00245694 digitization as we've heard the A5tDqYqZgfI-01177-00245696-00245910 digitization has the opportunity to A5tDqYqZgfI-01178-00245911-00246030 really improve A5tDqYqZgfI-01179-00246031-00246230 the quality and the accessibility but A5tDqYqZgfI-01180-00246231-00246391 also the timeliness of A5tDqYqZgfI-01181-00246392-00246663 of justice for children and and ensure A5tDqYqZgfI-01182-00246664-00246839 that that is possibility A5tDqYqZgfI-01183-00246840-00247158 the the increased use of alternatives to A5tDqYqZgfI-01184-00247159-00247263 detention A5tDqYqZgfI-01185-00247264-00247471 for children in conflict with the law A5tDqYqZgfI-01186-00247471-00247663 and the increased alignment that we're A5tDqYqZgfI-01187-00247664-00247782 seeing in terms of A5tDqYqZgfI-01188-00247783-00248055 um ensuring that that detention is A5tDqYqZgfI-01189-00248056-00248175 really a measure of A5tDqYqZgfI-01190-00248176-00248423 last resort and diversion opportunities A5tDqYqZgfI-01191-00248423-00248527 are really A5tDqYqZgfI-01192-00248528-00248791 really um highlighted of course i wanted A5tDqYqZgfI-01193-00248792-00249030 to highlight as unhcr we are very keen A5tDqYqZgfI-01194-00249031-00249255 and we're very happy to see many of A5tDqYqZgfI-01195-00249256-00249463 i mean quite a lot of movement also A5tDqYqZgfI-01196-00249464-00249606 around the issue of immigration A5tDqYqZgfI-01197-00249607-00249710 detention A5tDqYqZgfI-01198-00249711-00249982 um and the fact that we have seen more A5tDqYqZgfI-01199-00249983-00250063 and more A5tDqYqZgfI-01200-00250064-00250358 countries really moving to away from A5tDqYqZgfI-01201-00250359-00250582 immigration detention for children A5tDqYqZgfI-01202-00250583-00250815 obviously uh collectively as child A5tDqYqZgfI-01203-00250816-00251006 protection actors it's really important A5tDqYqZgfI-01204-00251007-00251223 that we advocate and continue to support A5tDqYqZgfI-01205-00251223-00251319 authorities A5tDqYqZgfI-01206-00251319-00251639 to really move towards as fast as A5tDqYqZgfI-01207-00251640-00251846 possible ending the use of immigration A5tDqYqZgfI-01208-00251848-00252046 detention in general but particularly A5tDqYqZgfI-01209-00252048-00252134 for children A5tDqYqZgfI-01210-00252135-00252375 so we've been very pleased as unhcr to A5tDqYqZgfI-01211-00252376-00252519 see a number of states A5tDqYqZgfI-01212-00252519-00252855 um doing that and um A5tDqYqZgfI-01213-00252856-00253063 and really i think that we really see A5tDqYqZgfI-01214-00253064-00253271 this as an opportunity to invest A5tDqYqZgfI-01215-00253271-00253551 more in justice for children um to A5tDqYqZgfI-01216-00253552-00253679 facilitate A5tDqYqZgfI-01217-00253680-00253910 the reform sustainable reform of the A5tDqYqZgfI-01218-00253911-00253982 system A5tDqYqZgfI-01219-00253983-00254375 um and really to provide uh really to A5tDqYqZgfI-01220-00254376-00254655 to support this effort that we've been A5tDqYqZgfI-01221-00254656-00254919 working on together to ensure that A5tDqYqZgfI-01222-00254919-00255263 that really we are able to limit A5tDqYqZgfI-01223-00255264-00255598 to the absolute um minimum uh A5tDqYqZgfI-01224-00255600-00255919 the use of detention uh for children A5tDqYqZgfI-01225-00255919-00256119 in conflict with the law or for other A5tDqYqZgfI-01226-00256119-00256255 reasons A5tDqYqZgfI-01227-00256256-00256471 and so i'm going to just share put up on A5tDqYqZgfI-01228-00256471-00256575 the screen we're about A5tDqYqZgfI-01229-00256576-00256798 oh we're a few quite a few minutes over A5tDqYqZgfI-01230-00256800-00256975 but i will put up on the screen just A5tDqYqZgfI-01231-00256976-00257191 remind all of you and put in the chat A5tDqYqZgfI-01232-00257192-00257391 box that there are some great resources A5tDqYqZgfI-01233-00257392-00257471 out there A5tDqYqZgfI-01234-00257471-00257727 um that you can refer to and we look A5tDqYqZgfI-01235-00257728-00257879 forward to seeing you in the next A5tDqYqZgfI-01236-00257880-00258328 session thank you everyone AulNQkX3r8g-00000-00000000-00000703 foreign AulNQkX3r8g-00001-00000704-00001062 Ting and welcome to my brand new podcast AulNQkX3r8g-00002-00001063-00001349 uh and what better guests to have as my AulNQkX3r8g-00003-00001350-00001693 first one than my daughter feeling AulNQkX3r8g-00004-00001694-00002009 right so I'm a holistic lifestyle coach AulNQkX3r8g-00005-00002010-00002195 uh kind of a personal trainer online AulNQkX3r8g-00006-00002196-00002392 personal trainer but my daughter Phoebe AulNQkX3r8g-00007-00002393-00002602 has actually just qualified as a AulNQkX3r8g-00008-00002603-00002789 personal trainer AulNQkX3r8g-00009-00002790-00003005 um so who is Phoebe tell us all about AulNQkX3r8g-00010-00003006-00003395 you so uh I am a personal trainer at AulNQkX3r8g-00011-00003396-00003659 Everlast in Derby I just recently AulNQkX3r8g-00012-00003660-00003922 started but I am absolutely loving it AulNQkX3r8g-00013-00003923-00004265 and just wanting to help out more people AulNQkX3r8g-00014-00004266-00004499 and when did you qualify what you AulNQkX3r8g-00015-00004500-00004799 qualified in so I have the level two AulNQkX3r8g-00016-00004800-00004997 Fitness instructing qualification so I AulNQkX3r8g-00017-00004998-00005170 have also been teaching some classes as AulNQkX3r8g-00018-00005171-00005302 well I've got one on a Monday night AulNQkX3r8g-00019-00005303-00005501 there and then I've got a level three AulNQkX3r8g-00020-00005502-00005741 qualification in personal training which AulNQkX3r8g-00021-00005742-00006004 means that I can do one-to-one and small AulNQkX3r8g-00022-00006005-00006341 group pting as well and then I'm also AulNQkX3r8g-00023-00006342-00006605 registered with simspar which means that AulNQkX3r8g-00024-00006606-00006839 I've just got a bit of those um Official AulNQkX3r8g-00025-00006840-00007169 Guidelines through there as well uh and AulNQkX3r8g-00026-00007170-00007327 yeah I think that helps all you ask me AulNQkX3r8g-00027-00007328-00007667 now people will notice straight away you AulNQkX3r8g-00028-00007668-00007853 don't say hey let me do it I know I AulNQkX3r8g-00029-00007854-00008110 don't say hey quite often but your AulNQkX3r8g-00030-00008111-00008357 accent's not quite like my why why is AulNQkX3r8g-00031-00008358-00008633 that so I was actually born in Derby uh AulNQkX3r8g-00032-00008634-00008891 but I lived down in Somerset for about AulNQkX3r8g-00033-00008892-00009083 10 years I think I moved there when I AulNQkX3r8g-00034-00009084-00009317 was at four or five and then I've just AulNQkX3r8g-00035-00009318-00009527 moved back up here in the last six AulNQkX3r8g-00036-00009528-00009755 months so yes I have got a bit of a AulNQkX3r8g-00037-00009756-00009924 summer set AulNQkX3r8g-00038-00009925-00010192 which is nice I like it makes you AulNQkX3r8g-00039-00010193-00010421 individual AulNQkX3r8g-00040-00010422-00010589 um so where are you personal training at AulNQkX3r8g-00041-00010590-00010823 so it's our Everlast Everlasting Derby AulNQkX3r8g-00042-00010824-00011009 which is which is probably the park it's AulNQkX3r8g-00043-00011010-00011159 a really nice gym if you've not been AulNQkX3r8g-00044-00011160-00011309 there before they've got a pool as well AulNQkX3r8g-00045-00011310-00011501 so I definitely recommend checking it AulNQkX3r8g-00046-00011502-00011710 out if you haven't been there before AulNQkX3r8g-00047-00011711-00011938 and what's the team like there are you AulNQkX3r8g-00048-00011939-00012149 having fun yeah so much fun everyone AulNQkX3r8g-00049-00012150-00012419 there is so nice uh yeah I really AulNQkX3r8g-00050-00012420-00012599 recommend that gym so much if you've not AulNQkX3r8g-00051-00012600-00012760 tried it before uh they've got some AulNQkX3r8g-00052-00012761-00012971 great deals on at the moment so yeah get AulNQkX3r8g-00053-00012972-00013211 down to Everlasting Derby now I did used AulNQkX3r8g-00054-00013212-00013433 to teach there and what always amazed me AulNQkX3r8g-00055-00013434-00013763 was yes doing classes are kind of all AulNQkX3r8g-00056-00013763-00013972 the same but there's just something AulNQkX3r8g-00057-00013973-00014177 about the members that Everlast they're AulNQkX3r8g-00058-00014178-00014453 just more fun they just like got more AulNQkX3r8g-00059-00014454-00014771 bite in life so hopefully that's what AulNQkX3r8g-00060-00014772-00015065 you're you're feeling there yeah so when AulNQkX3r8g-00061-00015066-00015221 it comes to PT what do you actually AulNQkX3r8g-00062-00015222-00015629 offer uh so it's part of it is obviously AulNQkX3r8g-00063-00015630-00015803 the personal training where you can come AulNQkX3r8g-00064-00015804-00016055 and we can do the exercises in the gym AulNQkX3r8g-00065-00016056-00016271 but I can also offer you other support AulNQkX3r8g-00066-00016272-00016493 as well because I was a weight loss AulNQkX3r8g-00067-00016494-00016649 coach for the last three years with AulNQkX3r8g-00068-00016650-00016858 Weight Watchers uh I can support you AulNQkX3r8g-00069-00016859-00017008 with a lot of the stuff around nutrition AulNQkX3r8g-00070-00017009-00017291 as well and then also I can offer you AulNQkX3r8g-00071-00017292-00017477 some check-ins midweek so keeping you AulNQkX3r8g-00072-00017478-00017650 motivated when you're not in the gym AulNQkX3r8g-00073-00017651-00017843 it's really important to me not just how AulNQkX3r8g-00074-00017844-00018017 you're doing with your exercise but how AulNQkX3r8g-00075-00018018-00018167 you doing in your everyday life and AulNQkX3r8g-00076-00018168-00018293 those other habits that you're building AulNQkX3r8g-00077-00018294-00018565 as well so yeah train in together AulNQkX3r8g-00078-00018566-00018833 nutrition advice and then check-ins AulNQkX3r8g-00079-00018834-00019085 midweek as well and when I work for AulNQkX3r8g-00080-00019086-00019343 Weight Watchers I learned so much stuff AulNQkX3r8g-00081-00019344-00019619 so what do you think your biggest kind AulNQkX3r8g-00082-00019620-00019847 of life lessons you learned from working AulNQkX3r8g-00083-00019848-00020171 for WWE probably that it's so much about AulNQkX3r8g-00084-00020172-00020525 mindset I think a lot of people who give AulNQkX3r8g-00085-00020526-00020800 weight loss and nutrition advice they AulNQkX3r8g-00086-00020801-00020993 tell you what to do but they don't AulNQkX3r8g-00087-00020994-00021125 actually realize that a lot of people AulNQkX3r8g-00088-00021126-00021335 already know what to do it's not the AulNQkX3r8g-00089-00021336-00021575 knowing what to do it's how to do it and AulNQkX3r8g-00090-00021576-00021797 how to get yourself motivated and in AulNQkX3r8g-00091-00021798-00021983 that right mindset so I think that's the AulNQkX3r8g-00092-00021984-00022228 biggest thing that I've learned is how AulNQkX3r8g-00093-00022229-00022444 to reframe your mind and how to help AulNQkX3r8g-00094-00022445-00022780 someone else to get motivated as well AulNQkX3r8g-00095-00022781-00022985 and why did you become a personal AulNQkX3r8g-00096-00022986-00023255 trainer why did you want to do it so for AulNQkX3r8g-00097-00023256-00023375 myself AulNQkX3r8g-00098-00023376-00023555 um I first started getting to AulNQkX3r8g-00099-00023556-00023764 fit when I was 18 AulNQkX3r8g-00100-00023765-00024047 because I was in a really bad place I AulNQkX3r8g-00101-00024048-00024227 struggled all through my childhood with AulNQkX3r8g-00102-00024228-00024377 my mental health AulNQkX3r8g-00103-00024378-00024539 um and it really reached a peak when I AulNQkX3r8g-00104-00024540-00024683 was 17. AulNQkX3r8g-00105-00024684-00024886 um really really bad depression I had AulNQkX3r8g-00106-00024887-00025180 really low self-esteem and that was when AulNQkX3r8g-00107-00025181-00025414 I joined the gym reached a point where I AulNQkX3r8g-00108-00025415-00025528 was like you know what I need to do AulNQkX3r8g-00109-00025529-00025727 something about this I can't live like AulNQkX3r8g-00110-00025727-00025961 this anymore and actually joined with a AulNQkX3r8g-00111-00025962-00026296 friend she came with me once and then I AulNQkX3r8g-00112-00026297-00026518 just started going on my own AulNQkX3r8g-00113-00026519-00026740 um and yeah it all just went from there AulNQkX3r8g-00114-00026741-00026933 and it started to improve my mental AulNQkX3r8g-00115-00026933-00027185 health the way I felt about myself and AulNQkX3r8g-00116-00027186-00027443 so many other things in my life started AulNQkX3r8g-00117-00027444-00027646 to come together because I was focused AulNQkX3r8g-00118-00027647-00027917 on myself and improving not my body it AulNQkX3r8g-00119-00027918-00028073 wasn't about my body it was about my AulNQkX3r8g-00120-00028074-00028301 health especially my mental health but AulNQkX3r8g-00121-00028302-00028517 it became about all of those other AulNQkX3r8g-00122-00028518-00028708 things as well improving My Lifestyle AulNQkX3r8g-00123-00028710-00028996 improving my body and now four years AulNQkX3r8g-00124-00028997-00029177 later it's just something that I'm so AulNQkX3r8g-00125-00029177-00029345 passionate about and I want to help AulNQkX3r8g-00126-00029345-00029651 other people to overcome their mental AulNQkX3r8g-00127-00029652-00029818 health whatever challenges it is that AulNQkX3r8g-00128-00029819-00030005 they're going through in life with AulNQkX3r8g-00129-00030006-00030262 Fitness because it's amazing and AulNQkX3r8g-00130-00030263-00030545 everybody should be getting in on this AulNQkX3r8g-00131-00030545-00030802 now I think many people who know you are AulNQkX3r8g-00132-00030804-00030970 surprised when they hear that you've had AulNQkX3r8g-00133-00030972-00031283 mental health issues purely because you AulNQkX3r8g-00134-00031283-00031462 know at school you were an a-star AulNQkX3r8g-00135-00031463-00031607 student you know from the outside AulNQkX3r8g-00136-00031608-00031829 looking in everybody thought wow she's AulNQkX3r8g-00137-00031830-00032087 sorted for Life little did they know it AulNQkX3r8g-00138-00032088-00032285 inside it was completely different story AulNQkX3r8g-00139-00032286-00032501 wasn't it and I think it's the same for AulNQkX3r8g-00140-00032502-00032645 most people though that struggle with AulNQkX3r8g-00141-00032645-00032789 mental health you know it's not AulNQkX3r8g-00142-00032790-00032974 something that you can see on the AulNQkX3r8g-00143-00032975-00033196 outside and actually when you struggle AulNQkX3r8g-00144-00033197-00033407 with mental health you don't want to AulNQkX3r8g-00145-00033408-00033617 talk about it it's it's often something AulNQkX3r8g-00146-00033618-00033790 that you feel embarrassed about I felt AulNQkX3r8g-00147-00033791-00034102 very ashamed because I knew that I had a AulNQkX3r8g-00148-00034103-00034318 nice life and I knew that I should be AulNQkX3r8g-00149-00034319-00034552 happy so I didn't want to say I'm AulNQkX3r8g-00150-00034553-00034768 actually really unhappy and you know I I AulNQkX3r8g-00151-00034769-00035002 feel this way because I thought other AulNQkX3r8g-00152-00035003-00035207 people would judge me and say that I was AulNQkX3r8g-00153-00035208-00035405 attention seeking and things like that AulNQkX3r8g-00154-00035406-00035518 so AulNQkX3r8g-00155-00035519-00035818 to talk about it it takes a lot of guts AulNQkX3r8g-00156-00035819-00036040 and I really feel for anyone else who's AulNQkX3r8g-00157-00036041-00036251 in that position right now because I AulNQkX3r8g-00158-00036252-00036377 know where you've been and it's not a AulNQkX3r8g-00159-00036378-00036635 nice place to be but when you start AulNQkX3r8g-00160-00036636-00036809 making those changes especially the AulNQkX3r8g-00161-00036810-00036995 habits and lifestyle like with diet and AulNQkX3r8g-00162-00036996-00037318 exercise that honestly does so much to AulNQkX3r8g-00163-00037319-00037433 help you AulNQkX3r8g-00164-00037434-00037565 um so that's definitely what I'd AulNQkX3r8g-00165-00037566-00037852 encourage anyone to do in that situation AulNQkX3r8g-00166-00037853-00038021 and within the family you've also AulNQkX3r8g-00167-00038022-00038261 experienced like strokes and other AulNQkX3r8g-00168-00038262-00038674 health issues yeah how has that made you AulNQkX3r8g-00169-00038675-00038867 improve as well want to improve AulNQkX3r8g-00170-00038868-00039083 absolutely that's a massive motivation AulNQkX3r8g-00171-00039084-00039437 for me when I look at my grandparents uh AulNQkX3r8g-00172-00039438-00039671 there's a lot of illnesses um that could AulNQkX3r8g-00173-00039672-00039868 have been prevented things like stroke AulNQkX3r8g-00174-00039869-00040109 uh dementia I know there's not firm AulNQkX3r8g-00175-00040110-00040367 evidence to what causes dementia but I AulNQkX3r8g-00176-00040368-00040583 do believe personally that it is AulNQkX3r8g-00177-00040584-00040745 partially from lifestyle especially AulNQkX3r8g-00178-00040746-00040883 alcohol AulNQkX3r8g-00179-00040884-00041249 um usage so that is a big motivator for AulNQkX3r8g-00180-00041250-00041471 me as well when I look at my family not AulNQkX3r8g-00181-00041472-00041687 wanting to end up in a position where I AulNQkX3r8g-00182-00041688-00041867 can't look after myself or where I don't AulNQkX3r8g-00183-00041868-00042124 have mental capacity that definitely AulNQkX3r8g-00184-00042125-00042377 drives me a lot as well wanting to be AulNQkX3r8g-00185-00042378-00042533 healthy AulNQkX3r8g-00186-00042534-00042809 myself my mum we've all got diabetes AulNQkX3r8g-00187-00042810-00043079 type two and luckily enough you actually AulNQkX3r8g-00188-00043080-00043324 worked on the Weight Watchers diabetes AulNQkX3r8g-00189-00043325-00043462 contract didn't you did you learn AulNQkX3r8g-00190-00043463-00043745 anything useful there so much and that AulNQkX3r8g-00191-00043746-00043930 was actually my favorite part about AulNQkX3r8g-00192-00043931-00044201 working for Weight Watchers was our NHS AulNQkX3r8g-00193-00044202-00044495 contract so anybody who had been found AulNQkX3r8g-00194-00044496-00044693 as being pre-diabetic so when their AulNQkX3r8g-00195-00044694-00044945 blood sugar levels were creeping up to AulNQkX3r8g-00196-00044946-00045089 the point where they were getting close AulNQkX3r8g-00197-00045090-00045335 to type 2 diabetes they would be AulNQkX3r8g-00198-00045336-00045490 referred through to us for a program AulNQkX3r8g-00199-00045491-00045671 that was designed to help reduce those AulNQkX3r8g-00200-00045672-00045899 levels and it was really successful we AulNQkX3r8g-00201-00045900-00046096 managed to help a lot of people to avoid AulNQkX3r8g-00202-00046097-00046307 developing diabetes that's probably the AulNQkX3r8g-00203-00046308-00046501 proudest work that I've done in my life AulNQkX3r8g-00204-00046502-00046817 and I would say a top tip for anyone AulNQkX3r8g-00205-00046818-00047008 who's in that position or has Type 2 AulNQkX3r8g-00206-00047009-00047290 diabetes is to really look at the things AulNQkX3r8g-00207-00047291-00047495 that you're consuming and what has sugar AulNQkX3r8g-00208-00047496-00047699 in it because so many things that we AulNQkX3r8g-00209-00047700-00047896 have in our day-to-day life we don't AulNQkX3r8g-00210-00047897-00048083 even realize it's got sugar in it AulNQkX3r8g-00211-00048084-00048299 especially things like drinks you know AulNQkX3r8g-00212-00048300-00048587 energy drinks soft drinks AulNQkX3r8g-00213-00048588-00048893 um all that stuff usually unless it's a AulNQkX3r8g-00214-00048894-00049205 zero one has sugar in it uh things that AulNQkX3r8g-00215-00049206-00049385 we don't think of as well like vaping I AulNQkX3r8g-00216-00049386-00049552 know a lot of people Vape now instead of AulNQkX3r8g-00217-00049553-00049757 smoking shock to that I didn't realize AulNQkX3r8g-00218-00049758-00050057 yeah a lot of The Vape liquid has sugar AulNQkX3r8g-00219-00050058-00050327 in it too so that can even cause you to AulNQkX3r8g-00220-00050328-00050585 develop type 2 diabetes and then a lot AulNQkX3r8g-00221-00050586-00050818 of foods that aren't sweet I think that AulNQkX3r8g-00222-00050819-00050974 was the biggest shock for a lot of AulNQkX3r8g-00223-00050975-00051161 people that came onto the program saying AulNQkX3r8g-00224-00051162-00051437 Oh but you know I I like Savory things AulNQkX3r8g-00225-00051438-00051635 so I don't understand why I've got high AulNQkX3r8g-00226-00051636-00051844 blood sugars but actually even the AulNQkX3r8g-00227-00051845-00052175 Savory stuff has a lot of sugar in it so AulNQkX3r8g-00228-00052176-00052420 um checking labels or using a Tracker AulNQkX3r8g-00229-00052421-00052654 like MyFitnessPal it can really help you AulNQkX3r8g-00230-00052655-00052847 to become more aware of what things have AulNQkX3r8g-00231-00052848-00053087 got sugar in and then you know where you AulNQkX3r8g-00232-00053088-00053392 can make those reductions and cut down AulNQkX3r8g-00233-00053394-00053621 now was there anything that motivated AulNQkX3r8g-00234-00053622-00053854 you to start exercising AulNQkX3r8g-00235-00053855-00054130 yeah it was absolutely my mental health AulNQkX3r8g-00236-00054132-00054388 that is the number one reason AulNQkX3r8g-00237-00054389-00054653 um and I think I knew at the time that AulNQkX3r8g-00238-00054654-00054832 part of the reason I felt rubbish was AulNQkX3r8g-00239-00054833-00054982 because I didn't like the way that my AulNQkX3r8g-00240-00054983-00055109 body looked AulNQkX3r8g-00241-00055110-00055313 um and it all just it all came together AulNQkX3r8g-00242-00055314-00055535 when I started exercising and seeing AulNQkX3r8g-00243-00055536-00055775 progress and it wasn't straight away I AulNQkX3r8g-00244-00055776-00055907 think that's the important thing to AulNQkX3r8g-00245-00055908-00056135 remember is when you start exercising or AulNQkX3r8g-00246-00056136-00056350 changing your lifestyle magic doesn't AulNQkX3r8g-00247-00056351-00056626 happen overnight it it takes a long time AulNQkX3r8g-00248-00056627-00056842 and you have to be patient but as soon AulNQkX3r8g-00249-00056844-00057088 as you start seeing those results it AulNQkX3r8g-00250-00057089-00057226 becomes AulNQkX3r8g-00251-00057227-00057550 um amazing and you will realize that AulNQkX3r8g-00252-00057551-00057682 it's all been worth it and it will AulNQkX3r8g-00253-00057683-00057875 really make you want to push through so AulNQkX3r8g-00254-00057876-00058049 if you're just starting out right now AulNQkX3r8g-00255-00058050-00058211 and you're thinking what's the point AulNQkX3r8g-00256-00058212-00058397 nothing's happening I'm not seeing any AulNQkX3r8g-00257-00058398-00058691 progress just keep going have faith in AulNQkX3r8g-00258-00058691-00058973 the process and faith in yourself and AulNQkX3r8g-00259-00058974-00059129 you will start to see those results AulNQkX3r8g-00260-00059129-00059254 eventually AulNQkX3r8g-00261-00059255-00059399 I feel like we're at some sort of AulNQkX3r8g-00262-00059400-00059615 motivational conference this is great AulNQkX3r8g-00263-00059616-00060004 this is really great right veganism okay AulNQkX3r8g-00264-00060005-00060232 you've been a vegan for a year tell us AulNQkX3r8g-00265-00060233-00060461 all about it what how did you get into AulNQkX3r8g-00266-00060462-00060623 it and what are the benefits are you AulNQkX3r8g-00267-00060624-00060826 feeling right now so I never thought AulNQkX3r8g-00268-00060827-00061061 that I would be a vegan AulNQkX3r8g-00269-00061062-00061288 um I I wouldn't say I was against it but AulNQkX3r8g-00270-00061289-00061511 I was very much I didn't understand if I AulNQkX3r8g-00271-00061512-00061697 thought it was just a bit of a pain AulNQkX3r8g-00272-00061698-00061853 really when someone said oh sorry I AulNQkX3r8g-00273-00061854-00062032 can't have that I'm vegan AulNQkX3r8g-00274-00062033-00062303 um but it was it was a challenge last AulNQkX3r8g-00275-00062304-00062459 year I don't know if you guys might have AulNQkX3r8g-00276-00062460-00062663 heard of the January AulNQkX3r8g-00277-00062664-00062879 um and I literally just approached it as AulNQkX3r8g-00278-00062879-00063185 a 30-day challenge in January that I was AulNQkX3r8g-00279-00063186-00063382 going to go vegan it was small just so I AulNQkX3r8g-00280-00063383-00063509 could lose a bit of weight to be honest AulNQkX3r8g-00281-00063510-00063730 I'd put on over Christmas AulNQkX3r8g-00282-00063732-00063947 um but as I started researching vegan AulNQkX3r8g-00283-00063948-00064026 recipes AulNQkX3r8g-00284-00064027-00064265 I started looking into some of the other AulNQkX3r8g-00285-00064266-00064444 things around why it can be good for AulNQkX3r8g-00286-00064445-00064619 your health why it's good for the AulNQkX3r8g-00287-00064620-00064823 environment why it's good for animals AulNQkX3r8g-00288-00064824-00065080 and it became AulNQkX3r8g-00289-00065082-00065392 um a no-brainer to me that I should AulNQkX3r8g-00290-00065394-00065603 stick with veganism especially because a AulNQkX3r8g-00291-00065604-00065794 lot of the food I was having actually AulNQkX3r8g-00292-00065795-00066041 tasted a lot better than things that I AulNQkX3r8g-00293-00066042-00066250 used to eat before I was having to put AulNQkX3r8g-00294-00066251-00066526 more thought into what I was having and AulNQkX3r8g-00295-00066527-00066767 more spices and more flavorings because AulNQkX3r8g-00296-00066768-00067000 the meat had been taken out I was just AulNQkX3r8g-00297-00067001-00067247 having to think more about my meals AulNQkX3r8g-00298-00067248-00067456 um and I would honestly never go back AulNQkX3r8g-00299-00067457-00067661 now I've seen so many benefits I have AulNQkX3r8g-00300-00067662-00067961 more energy I feel better about what I'm AulNQkX3r8g-00301-00067962-00068188 eating I feel proud of what I'm eating I AulNQkX3r8g-00302-00068189-00068441 know it sounds crazy but because I've AulNQkX3r8g-00303-00068442-00068626 made these massive changes over the last AulNQkX3r8g-00304-00068627-00068879 year and stuck with them I feel really AulNQkX3r8g-00305-00068880-00069131 proud of myself so I would never go back AulNQkX3r8g-00306-00069132-00069238 now AulNQkX3r8g-00307-00069239-00069575 McDonald's mcclint is it this or is it AulNQkX3r8g-00308-00069576-00070097 this it AulNQkX3r8g-00309-00070098-00070403 well I know my gran had AulNQkX3r8g-00310-00070404-00070631 Aim so and it's the same with a lot of AulNQkX3r8g-00311-00070632-00070841 the vegan stuff that that you eat you AulNQkX3r8g-00312-00070842-00071015 you won't even notice a massive AulNQkX3r8g-00313-00071016-00071231 difference so don't be against it give AulNQkX3r8g-00314-00071232-00071447 it a try the reason I'm particularly AulNQkX3r8g-00315-00071448-00071699 proud of you being vegan is not because AulNQkX3r8g-00316-00071700-00072011 that you're a vegan but you're going for AulNQkX3r8g-00317-00072012-00072244 the unprocessed route which is kind of a AulNQkX3r8g-00318-00072245-00072431 big mistake a lot of new vegans make AulNQkX3r8g-00319-00072432-00072623 isn't it they do just go to McDonald's AulNQkX3r8g-00320-00072624-00072791 because that's the only thing they can AulNQkX3r8g-00321-00072792-00073037 think of is vegan yeah I think the best AulNQkX3r8g-00322-00073038-00073300 approach with that is to view these kind AulNQkX3r8g-00323-00073301-00073576 of processed vegan foods as like a AulNQkX3r8g-00324-00073577-00073726 transition AulNQkX3r8g-00325-00073727-00074009 um so as you're moving away from meat AulNQkX3r8g-00326-00074010-00074267 it's a good idea to use things like you AulNQkX3r8g-00327-00074268-00074549 know the chicken free kievs and those AulNQkX3r8g-00328-00074550-00074813 kind of meat Alternatives but if you're AulNQkX3r8g-00329-00074814-00075023 staying on those things long term they AulNQkX3r8g-00330-00075024-00075250 are highly processed foods um so it's AulNQkX3r8g-00331-00075251-00075376 not something that you want to have a AulNQkX3r8g-00332-00075377-00075629 lot of in your diet I'd recommend as you AulNQkX3r8g-00333-00075630-00075911 switch to veganism trying to go for Less AulNQkX3r8g-00334-00075912-00076132 processed things like beans and lentils AulNQkX3r8g-00335-00076133-00076493 and rice and all of those Natural Foods AulNQkX3r8g-00336-00076494-00076715 um because it will be healthier for you AulNQkX3r8g-00337-00076716-00077003 but if you are going vegan just for AulNQkX3r8g-00338-00077004-00077231 ethical reasons or just for the animals AulNQkX3r8g-00339-00077232-00077435 you know it's fine to go with a bit more AulNQkX3r8g-00340-00077436-00077597 of the process stuff but if you're AulNQkX3r8g-00341-00077598-00077812 trying to be healthier as well try and AulNQkX3r8g-00342-00077813-00078082 go for the more natural vegan products AulNQkX3r8g-00343-00078083-00078305 now what is your beginner's eating AulNQkX3r8g-00344-00078306-00078467 advice for everybody do you think AulNQkX3r8g-00345-00078468-00078647 everybody should go vegan is that the AulNQkX3r8g-00346-00078648-00078941 answer to the Obesity epidemic no I mean AulNQkX3r8g-00347-00078942-00079115 I think it would help and I would love AulNQkX3r8g-00348-00079116-00079361 to say yes everybody can be a vegan but AulNQkX3r8g-00349-00079362-00079535 I know it's not that simple especially AulNQkX3r8g-00350-00079536-00079787 if you live with other people or if you AulNQkX3r8g-00351-00079788-00079973 cook for other people who don't like AulNQkX3r8g-00352-00079974-00080249 vegan food or are fussy eaters it's very AulNQkX3r8g-00353-00080250-00080387 difficult to make that change for AulNQkX3r8g-00354-00080388-00080525 yourself AulNQkX3r8g-00355-00080526-00080699 um so I would say it's not for everyone AulNQkX3r8g-00356-00080700-00080879 I know some people have allergies to AulNQkX3r8g-00357-00080880-00081082 things like soy and intolerances too AulNQkX3r8g-00358-00081083-00081311 that would make it quite difficult AulNQkX3r8g-00359-00081312-00081550 um but my beginner eating advice I think AulNQkX3r8g-00360-00081551-00081749 would just be to make small changes AulNQkX3r8g-00361-00081750-00082144 don't try and go on some crazy diet that AulNQkX3r8g-00362-00082145-00082271 you know you're not going to be able to AulNQkX3r8g-00363-00082272-00082565 stick to long term do something which AulNQkX3r8g-00364-00082566-00082769 incorporates some foods that you like AulNQkX3r8g-00365-00082770-00082979 but just getting a little bit healthier AulNQkX3r8g-00366-00082980-00083165 something that I like to think about is AulNQkX3r8g-00367-00083166-00083579 the 80 20 principle which is that 80 of AulNQkX3r8g-00368-00083580-00083843 the time you're having your healthy AulNQkX3r8g-00369-00083844-00084017 options you're doing your exercise AulNQkX3r8g-00370-00084018-00084287 you're doing those healthy habits and AulNQkX3r8g-00371-00084288-00084575 then that other 20 you can do whatever AulNQkX3r8g-00372-00084576-00084821 you like you know you can have alcohol AulNQkX3r8g-00373-00084822-00085156 or junk food or whatever it is that you AulNQkX3r8g-00374-00085157-00085565 enjoy not excessively but that 20 is AulNQkX3r8g-00375-00085566-00085865 those nice things and it helps you to AulNQkX3r8g-00376-00085866-00086081 stay balanced and then it means that AulNQkX3r8g-00377-00086082-00086435 you're not 100 off it and then 100 on it AulNQkX3r8g-00378-00086436-00086693 if you've got that 80 20 in that balance AulNQkX3r8g-00379-00086694-00086891 you can actually stick with your healthy AulNQkX3r8g-00380-00086892-00087088 lifestyle long term which is where AulNQkX3r8g-00381-00087089-00087244 you're really going to see the benefits AulNQkX3r8g-00382-00087245-00087347 of it AulNQkX3r8g-00383-00087348-00087682 and what's your advice for beginners to AulNQkX3r8g-00384-00087683-00087911 exercise should everybody join a gym you AulNQkX3r8g-00385-00087912-00088150 know what is the solution I mean I would AulNQkX3r8g-00386-00088151-00088318 say yes everybody joined the gym because AulNQkX3r8g-00387-00088319-00088600 it's great at the gym uh but I know AulNQkX3r8g-00388-00088601-00088709 that's not realistic for everyone AulNQkX3r8g-00389-00088710-00088841 especially if you've got mental health AulNQkX3r8g-00390-00088842-00089044 issues you know social anxiety that kind AulNQkX3r8g-00391-00089045-00089250 of thing it can be really intimidating AulNQkX3r8g-00392-00089251-00089543 uh so again I would say small changes if AulNQkX3r8g-00393-00089544-00089759 you don't feel like you're ready to step AulNQkX3r8g-00394-00089760-00090112 into a gym or to a fitness class or get AulNQkX3r8g-00395-00090113-00090317 a personal trainer just start walking AulNQkX3r8g-00396-00090318-00090629 more or sitting less or stretching AulNQkX3r8g-00397-00090630-00090953 something really simple and easy but if AulNQkX3r8g-00398-00090954-00091156 you do feel like you're ready then I AulNQkX3r8g-00399-00091157-00091462 would really recommend getting a PT or AulNQkX3r8g-00400-00091463-00091679 going to a fitness class so you've got AulNQkX3r8g-00401-00091680-00091882 that professional who can show you how AulNQkX3r8g-00402-00091883-00092105 to do things properly because I think AulNQkX3r8g-00403-00092106-00092350 it's for me this was a massive worry and AulNQkX3r8g-00404-00092351-00092482 I know it is for a lot of people when AulNQkX3r8g-00405-00092483-00092681 they first step in a gym is they don't AulNQkX3r8g-00406-00092682-00092861 want to do something wrong and they AulNQkX3r8g-00407-00092862-00093005 don't want to be embarrassed they don't AulNQkX3r8g-00408-00093006-00093155 want to use a piece of equipment wrong AulNQkX3r8g-00409-00093156-00093317 or do an exercise wrong and they feel AulNQkX3r8g-00410-00093318-00093467 like everyone everyone would be staring AulNQkX3r8g-00411-00093468-00093665 and laughing at them so if you're AulNQkX3r8g-00412-00093666-00093850 worried and you feel like you don't know AulNQkX3r8g-00413-00093851-00094091 what you're doing get a professional to AulNQkX3r8g-00414-00094092-00094306 help you you know go to a class get a PT AulNQkX3r8g-00415-00094307-00094582 that's the best way to get a really good AulNQkX3r8g-00416-00094583-00094823 program and get the foundations that are AulNQkX3r8g-00417-00094824-00095003 going to help you to succeed AulNQkX3r8g-00418-00095004-00095231 a lot of people also think gyms are just AulNQkX3r8g-00419-00095232-00095459 full of fittings they're not are they AulNQkX3r8g-00420-00095460-00095782 especially Everlast it's you know I'm AulNQkX3r8g-00421-00095783-00095938 not saying they're all overweight but AulNQkX3r8g-00422-00095939-00096131 there are a lot of people there that do AulNQkX3r8g-00423-00096132-00096329 need to lose weight and do need to get AulNQkX3r8g-00424-00096330-00096581 fit you know it's not a it's not a 50s AulNQkX3r8g-00425-00096582-00096832 gym is it well I would say it's the same AulNQkX3r8g-00426-00096833-00097115 at every gym though and you know what as AulNQkX3r8g-00427-00097116-00097282 someone walking in you might look at AulNQkX3r8g-00428-00097283-00097438 everyone in there and think God they're AulNQkX3r8g-00429-00097439-00097667 all so fit you know they're also strong AulNQkX3r8g-00430-00097668-00097912 but I guarantee each person has had AulNQkX3r8g-00431-00097913-00098075 their own struggles they've started AulNQkX3r8g-00432-00098076-00098338 training for a reason and normally it is AulNQkX3r8g-00433-00098339-00098537 because they don't like the way they AulNQkX3r8g-00434-00098538-00098675 look or they don't feel good about AulNQkX3r8g-00435-00098676-00098932 themselves so every single person in AulNQkX3r8g-00436-00098933-00099161 that gym is there improving themselves AulNQkX3r8g-00437-00099162-00099371 and actually they're probably not not AulNQkX3r8g-00438-00099372-00099593 bothered at all about what you look like AulNQkX3r8g-00439-00099594-00099815 coming in they're looking at themselves AulNQkX3r8g-00440-00099816-00100079 and that's their competition so don't be AulNQkX3r8g-00441-00100080-00100294 intimidated by other people that you see AulNQkX3r8g-00442-00100295-00100576 in the gym and to be honest most of the AulNQkX3r8g-00443-00100577-00100738 people that I've met in gyms have been AulNQkX3r8g-00444-00100739-00100912 absolutely lovely and they just want to AulNQkX3r8g-00445-00100913-00101182 help you and they understand that you're AulNQkX3r8g-00446-00101183-00101411 there for a reason and they relate to AulNQkX3r8g-00447-00101412-00101621 you with that so please don't be AulNQkX3r8g-00448-00101622-00101891 intimidated by the people in the gym now AulNQkX3r8g-00449-00101892-00102065 you're teaching some Fitness classes as AulNQkX3r8g-00450-00102066-00102262 well aren't you again do you think AulNQkX3r8g-00451-00102263-00102436 that's a good thing to beginners or do AulNQkX3r8g-00452-00102438-00102575 you think beginners are better to go to AulNQkX3r8g-00453-00102576-00102778 personal training I mean AulNQkX3r8g-00454-00102779-00103168 it depends I think if you are quite AulNQkX3r8g-00455-00103169-00103432 introverted you might not want to go to AulNQkX3r8g-00456-00103433-00103642 a class just because it can be a lot you AulNQkX3r8g-00457-00103643-00103882 know it some of them I don't want to say AulNQkX3r8g-00458-00103883-00104063 all of them but some of them can be a AulNQkX3r8g-00459-00104064-00104201 little bit clicky you know if people AulNQkX3r8g-00460-00104202-00104465 have been going together for years you AulNQkX3r8g-00461-00104466-00104632 might feel a little bit Outcast when you AulNQkX3r8g-00462-00104633-00104842 first go to a fitness class AulNQkX3r8g-00463-00104843-00104993 um if you feel like that might be too AulNQkX3r8g-00464-00104994-00105125 much for you then it might be a good AulNQkX3r8g-00465-00105126-00105353 idea to see a PT but other people you AulNQkX3r8g-00466-00105354-00105563 know if you are quite bubbly and you AulNQkX3r8g-00467-00105564-00105760 want to be around other people when you AulNQkX3r8g-00468-00105761-00105947 exercise then go to a fitness class AulNQkX3r8g-00469-00105948-00106108 because they're so fun AulNQkX3r8g-00470-00106109-00106234 um and I think there's a bit of a AulNQkX3r8g-00471-00106235-00106421 competitive element as well when you're AulNQkX3r8g-00472-00106422-00106673 in a class I definitely push myself a AulNQkX3r8g-00473-00106674-00106877 lot harder when I'm in a class because AulNQkX3r8g-00474-00106878-00107110 other people are around me AulNQkX3r8g-00475-00107111-00107395 um so both really really good options AulNQkX3r8g-00476-00107396-00107663 but it's it really depends on your AulNQkX3r8g-00477-00107664-00107849 personality which one you think is right AulNQkX3r8g-00478-00107850-00107957 for you AulNQkX3r8g-00479-00107958-00108160 and we've talked about diet we've talked AulNQkX3r8g-00480-00108161-00108340 about exercise do you think there's any AulNQkX3r8g-00481-00108341-00108563 other lifestyle advice you'd give to AulNQkX3r8g-00482-00108564-00108851 your beginner clients yes I think so AulNQkX3r8g-00483-00108852-00109169 going back to my roots at ww I would AulNQkX3r8g-00484-00109170-00109523 also add in sleep focus and focusing on AulNQkX3r8g-00485-00109524-00109816 mindset as well I think sleep is often AulNQkX3r8g-00486-00109817-00110110 neglected but very very important if AulNQkX3r8g-00487-00110111-00110278 you're not sleeping well you're not AulNQkX3r8g-00488-00110279-00110428 going to feel good and then you're not AulNQkX3r8g-00489-00110429-00110573 going to eat well and then you're not AulNQkX3r8g-00490-00110574-00110789 going to exercise so make sure that AulNQkX3r8g-00491-00110790-00110963 you're focusing on your sleep trying to AulNQkX3r8g-00492-00110964-00111221 get between seven and nine hours I know AulNQkX3r8g-00493-00111222-00111358 if at the moment you're only getting AulNQkX3r8g-00494-00111359-00111640 four or five hours that seems crazy just AulNQkX3r8g-00495-00111641-00111802 make some small changes trying to get AulNQkX3r8g-00496-00111803-00112090 sick and then trying to get seven AulNQkX3r8g-00497-00112091-00112258 um but focusing on your sleep trying to AulNQkX3r8g-00498-00112259-00112469 spend more time in bed trying to unwind AulNQkX3r8g-00499-00112470-00112769 before bed as well and then when it AulNQkX3r8g-00500-00112770-00112949 comes to mindset I think the biggest AulNQkX3r8g-00501-00112950-00113189 thing is changing the way that you speak AulNQkX3r8g-00502-00113190-00113471 to yourself in your head and I know this AulNQkX3r8g-00503-00113472-00113777 is sometimes a constant challenge I know AulNQkX3r8g-00504-00113778-00114040 for me even now you know know even after AulNQkX3r8g-00505-00114041-00114286 years of focusing on this I have days AulNQkX3r8g-00506-00114288-00114515 where I'm horrible to myself in my head AulNQkX3r8g-00507-00114516-00114701 and I have to do that little check-in AulNQkX3r8g-00508-00114702-00114910 and say hang on a second you know what AulNQkX3r8g-00509-00114911-00115097 are you doing why are you saying this to AulNQkX3r8g-00510-00115098-00115216 yourself AulNQkX3r8g-00511-00115217-00115410 but it's such an important thing because AulNQkX3r8g-00512-00115411-00115673 if you're criticizing yourself in your AulNQkX3r8g-00513-00115674-00115865 head if you're saying oh you're never AulNQkX3r8g-00514-00115866-00116008 going to be fit you're never going to be AulNQkX3r8g-00515-00116009-00116158 strong I don't know why you're bothering AulNQkX3r8g-00516-00116159-00116369 with this all those things become true AulNQkX3r8g-00517-00116370-00116560 if you keep saying those things to AulNQkX3r8g-00518-00116561-00116807 yourself so try and change that in a AulNQkX3r8g-00519-00116808-00116975 dialogue doesn't mean you have to start AulNQkX3r8g-00520-00116976-00117197 saying oh I love myself and I'm amazing AulNQkX3r8g-00521-00117198-00117527 but just not being mean just saying AulNQkX3r8g-00522-00117528-00117778 actually that's not true because the AulNQkX3r8g-00523-00117779-00118031 things that we think are not facts AulNQkX3r8g-00524-00118032-00118223 they're not the truth so don't let that AulNQkX3r8g-00525-00118224-00118547 dictate the way that you act try and AulNQkX3r8g-00526-00118548-00118739 change that in a dialogue and it will AulNQkX3r8g-00527-00118740-00119128 really help you to build new habits AulNQkX3r8g-00528-00119129-00119452 and finally you are offering some free AulNQkX3r8g-00529-00119453-00119740 PT taster session that Everlast how can AulNQkX3r8g-00530-00119741-00119939 people get in touch with you so I'm on AulNQkX3r8g-00531-00119940-00120334 Instagram uh that's at Phoebe hope PT uh AulNQkX3r8g-00532-00120335-00120678 you can also email me at Phoebe hopet AulNQkX3r8g-00533-00120679-00120983 gmail.com uh those are the two main ways AulNQkX3r8g-00534-00120983-00121186 that you can get in contact with me I AulNQkX3r8g-00535-00121188-00121319 think I've also got my number on my AulNQkX3r8g-00536-00121320-00121486 insta as well so if you want to what's AulNQkX3r8g-00537-00121488-00121649 that message me or message me on there 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before my mum said oh she is flexible AulNQkX3r8g-00553-00124685-00124907 it's from years of practice AulNQkX3r8g-00554-00124908-00125140 same with all of this stuff you know it AulNQkX3r8g-00555-00125141-00125375 it when I first if I first would have AulNQkX3r8g-00556-00125376-00125699 tried to do that video four years ago I AulNQkX3r8g-00557-00125700-00125878 couldn't have got into those positions AulNQkX3r8g-00558-00125879-00126052 and I probably would have felt really AulNQkX3r8g-00559-00126053-00126269 jealous if I saw someone who could I AulNQkX3r8g-00560-00126270-00126466 would have been really annoyed at them AulNQkX3r8g-00561-00126467-00126754 um but it's just from practice and you AulNQkX3r8g-00562-00126755-00127007 can do anything your body is amazing but AulNQkX3r8g-00563-00127008-00127313 you just have to train it that's the key AulNQkX3r8g-00564-00127314-00127547 to and unlock all of this potential that AulNQkX3r8g-00565-00127548-00127847 you have so if you have any goals 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actually currently AuyUzaAEqwY-00005-00001424-00001623 attending and they're attending a AuyUzaAEqwY-00006-00001623-00001887 virtual four-day workshop that will AuyUzaAEqwY-00007-00001888-00002030 provide opportunities for scientific AuyUzaAEqwY-00008-00002032-00002118 interactions AuyUzaAEqwY-00009-00002119-00002279 career-oriented discussions and AuyUzaAEqwY-00010-00002280-00002423 networking AuyUzaAEqwY-00011-00002424-00002550 my name is arvind rahman i'm the AuyUzaAEqwY-00012-00002551-00002695 executive associate dean of the college AuyUzaAEqwY-00013-00002696-00002855 of engineering here at purdue AuyUzaAEqwY-00014-00002856-00003023 a professor of mechanical engineering AuyUzaAEqwY-00015-00003024-00003215 and by curtsy materials engineering AuyUzaAEqwY-00016-00003215-00003438 and it is my honor to introduce the AuyUzaAEqwY-00017-00003439-00003815 moderators for today's keynote talk AuyUzaAEqwY-00018-00003815-00004054 dr tahira reed smith is an associate AuyUzaAEqwY-00019-00004055-00004119 professor AuyUzaAEqwY-00020-00004120-00004263 in the school of mechanical engineering AuyUzaAEqwY-00021-00004264-00004647 at purdue and is a nasa visiting scholar AuyUzaAEqwY-00022-00004648-00004831 her research involves the quantification AuyUzaAEqwY-00023-00004832-00005006 and integration of human centered AuyUzaAEqwY-00024-00005007-00005231 considerations in engineering systems AuyUzaAEqwY-00025-00005232-00005463 and or the design process a research AuyUzaAEqwY-00026-00005464-00005615 program has received funding from the AuyUzaAEqwY-00027-00005616-00005831 national science foundation procter AuyUzaAEqwY-00028-00005832-00005895 gamble AuyUzaAEqwY-00029-00005896-00006022 the air force office of scientific AuyUzaAEqwY-00030-00006023-00006199 research and many others AuyUzaAEqwY-00031-00006200-00006359 her projects that involve the AuyUzaAEqwY-00032-00006360-00006550 intersection of diversity and mechanical AuyUzaAEqwY-00033-00006551-00006710 engineering have been featured in media AuyUzaAEqwY-00034-00006711-00006831 sources including AuyUzaAEqwY-00035-00006831-00007103 national geographic nbc's today's show AuyUzaAEqwY-00036-00007104-00007231 essence magazine AuyUzaAEqwY-00037-00007231-00007574 reuters npr and many others AuyUzaAEqwY-00038-00007575-00007798 a highly sought after role role model AuyUzaAEqwY-00039-00007800-00007951 for the younger generation dr reed AuyUzaAEqwY-00040-00007952-00008151 smith's story about her double dutch AuyUzaAEqwY-00041-00008152-00008359 jump rope invention is featured in two AuyUzaAEqwY-00042-00008360-00008646 children's books and was on the 2017 AuyUzaAEqwY-00043-00008647-00008839 new york state english and language arts AuyUzaAEqwY-00044-00008840-00008959 common core exam AuyUzaAEqwY-00045-00008960-00009191 administered to over a hundred thousand AuyUzaAEqwY-00046-00009192-00009295 fourth graders AuyUzaAEqwY-00047-00009296-00009527 in the state of new york dr reed AuyUzaAEqwY-00048-00009528-00009751 obtained bs and ms degrees in mechanical AuyUzaAEqwY-00049-00009752-00009846 engineering AuyUzaAEqwY-00050-00009847-00010063 the rental layer polytechnic institute AuyUzaAEqwY-00051-00010064-00010191 and a phd AuyUzaAEqwY-00052-00010192-00010383 in design science from the university of AuyUzaAEqwY-00053-00010384-00010703 michigan ann arbor AuyUzaAEqwY-00054-00010704-00011031 thank you the second moderator is dr AuyUzaAEqwY-00055-00011032-00011151 michael mike harris AuyUzaAEqwY-00056-00011152-00011359 who is the robert b and virginia v AuyUzaAEqwY-00057-00011360-00011614 professor of chemical engineering AuyUzaAEqwY-00058-00011615-00011823 and professor courtesy by courtesy of AuyUzaAEqwY-00059-00011824-00012023 environmental and ecological engineering AuyUzaAEqwY-00060-00012024-00012159 in the college of engineering at purdue AuyUzaAEqwY-00061-00012160-00012327 university AuyUzaAEqwY-00062-00012328-00012646 he served as my colleague associate dean AuyUzaAEqwY-00063-00012647-00012783 of engineering for undergraduate AuyUzaAEqwY-00064-00012784-00013086 education from 2006 to 2017 AuyUzaAEqwY-00065-00013087-00013351 he was inducted into the university of AuyUzaAEqwY-00066-00013352-00013503 tennessee's department of chemical and AuyUzaAEqwY-00067-00013504-00013719 biomolecular engineering's hall of fame AuyUzaAEqwY-00068-00013719-00013935 in 2017 he received the national science AuyUzaAEqwY-00069-00013936-00014086 foundation career award AuyUzaAEqwY-00070-00014087-00014271 he was a purdue university faculty AuyUzaAEqwY-00071-00014272-00014527 scholar from 2002 to 2007 and was named AuyUzaAEqwY-00072-00014528-00014679 fellow face double e AuyUzaAEqwY-00073-00014680-00015007 and fellow of aiche in 2009 he won the AuyUzaAEqwY-00074-00015008-00015238 aiche grimes award for excellence in AuyUzaAEqwY-00075-00015240-00015438 chemical engineering in 2005 and the AuyUzaAEqwY-00076-00015440-00015566 aiche AuyUzaAEqwY-00077-00015568-00015766 minority affairs distinguished service AuyUzaAEqwY-00078-00015768-00015958 award in 2009 AuyUzaAEqwY-00079-00015959-00016158 he is the author of approximately 100 AuyUzaAEqwY-00080-00016159-00016263 peer-reviewed AuyUzaAEqwY-00081-00016263-00016567 publications and 11 patents he received AuyUzaAEqwY-00082-00016568-00016719 his bs in chemical engineering from AuyUzaAEqwY-00083-00016720-00016927 mississippi state university AuyUzaAEqwY-00084-00016928-00017150 and his amazon phd degrees in chemical AuyUzaAEqwY-00085-00017151-00017271 engineering from the university of AuyUzaAEqwY-00086-00017272-00017343 tennessee AuyUzaAEqwY-00087-00017344-00017583 while working full-time at the oak ridge AuyUzaAEqwY-00088-00017584-00017727 national laboratory AuyUzaAEqwY-00089-00017728-00017935 mike's research is in the area of nano AuyUzaAEqwY-00090-00017936-00018111 materials collides AuyUzaAEqwY-00091-00018112-00018335 and interfacial phenomena transfer to AuyUzaAEqwY-00092-00018336-00018494 transport phenomena AuyUzaAEqwY-00093-00018495-00018686 particle science and technology AuyUzaAEqwY-00094-00018687-00018847 microwave sensing of pharmaceutical AuyUzaAEqwY-00095-00018848-00018935 powders AuyUzaAEqwY-00096-00018936-00019175 solidification of drug and excipient AuyUzaAEqwY-00097-00019176-00019319 matrices AuyUzaAEqwY-00098-00019320-00019519 environmental control technology and AuyUzaAEqwY-00099-00019520-00019622 electro dispersion AuyUzaAEqwY-00100-00019623-00019903 precipitation processes please join me AuyUzaAEqwY-00101-00019904-00020094 in welcoming our moderators to introduce AuyUzaAEqwY-00102-00020095-00020663 our speaker for today AuyUzaAEqwY-00103-00020664-00021150 good evening tahira and mike AuyUzaAEqwY-00104-00021151-00021422 good evening as harvard said i'm mike AuyUzaAEqwY-00105-00021423-00021511 harris AuyUzaAEqwY-00106-00021512-00021830 and i'm honored to introduce our keynote AuyUzaAEqwY-00107-00021831-00022078 speaker for this evening AuyUzaAEqwY-00108-00022079-00022471 dr wes harris the c.s draper professor AuyUzaAEqwY-00109-00022472-00022543 of AuyUzaAEqwY-00110-00022544-00022847 aeronautic and and astronautics at the AuyUzaAEqwY-00111-00022848-00022886 ins AuyUzaAEqwY-00112-00022887-00023191 massachusetts institute of technology AuyUzaAEqwY-00113-00023192-00023583 he received his phd in 1968 AuyUzaAEqwY-00114-00023584-00023935 from princeton university his first AuyUzaAEqwY-00115-00023936-00024222 faculty positions were in the department AuyUzaAEqwY-00116-00024223-00024430 of aerospace engineering AuyUzaAEqwY-00117-00024431-00024750 at the university of virginia and he AuyUzaAEqwY-00118-00024751-00025086 also served as a faculty member AuyUzaAEqwY-00119-00025087-00025439 of physics at southern university AuyUzaAEqwY-00120-00025440-00025702 professor harris joined mit as an AuyUzaAEqwY-00121-00025704-00025878 associate professor AuyUzaAEqwY-00122-00025879-00026318 of aeronautics and astronautics AuyUzaAEqwY-00123-00026319-00026639 and he served as the director of the AuyUzaAEqwY-00124-00026639-00026870 office of minority education AuyUzaAEqwY-00125-00026872-00027207 for several years all of these at least AuyUzaAEqwY-00126-00027208-00027318 these two were AuyUzaAEqwY-00127-00027319-00027774 at mit he held a position as AuyUzaAEqwY-00128-00027775-00028079 manager of computational methods AuyUzaAEqwY-00129-00028080-00028455 at nasa headquarters and as you can see AuyUzaAEqwY-00130-00028456-00028574 he's AuyUzaAEqwY-00131-00028575-00028918 in a pretty busy person he was promoted AuyUzaAEqwY-00132-00028919-00029039 to professor AuyUzaAEqwY-00133-00029039-00029407 of aeronautics and astronautics at mit AuyUzaAEqwY-00134-00029408-00029846 in 1981 and he was the AuyUzaAEqwY-00135-00029847-00030127 uh president and owner of harris AuyUzaAEqwY-00136-00030127-00030207 analytical AuyUzaAEqwY-00137-00030208-00030623 and planning from 1980 to 1985. AuyUzaAEqwY-00138-00030624-00030883 i mean these are all just tremendous AuyUzaAEqwY-00139-00030883-00030999 accomplishments AuyUzaAEqwY-00140-00031000-00031302 he returned to mit as the AuyUzaAEqwY-00141-00031303-00031879 ml king junior visiting professor AuyUzaAEqwY-00142-00031880-00032207 and became the cs draper professor of AuyUzaAEqwY-00143-00032208-00032318 aeronautics AuyUzaAEqwY-00144-00032319-00032783 and astronautics in 2001. AuyUzaAEqwY-00145-00032784-00033079 his administrative roles include serving AuyUzaAEqwY-00146-00033080-00033190 as the school of AuyUzaAEqwY-00147-00033191-00033551 engineering uh school of engineering AuyUzaAEqwY-00148-00033552-00034062 dean at the university of connecticut AuyUzaAEqwY-00149-00034063-00034383 vice president and chief administrative AuyUzaAEqwY-00150-00034384-00034471 officer AuyUzaAEqwY-00151-00034472-00034679 of the university of tennessee space AuyUzaAEqwY-00152-00034680-00034871 institute AuyUzaAEqwY-00153-00034872-00035255 and an associate administrator for AuyUzaAEqwY-00154-00035256-00035639 astronautics at nasa headquarters AuyUzaAEqwY-00155-00035640-00035862 he was also head of the department of AuyUzaAEqwY-00156-00035863-00035974 aeronautics AuyUzaAEqwY-00157-00035975-00036351 and astronautics and associate provost AuyUzaAEqwY-00158-00036352-00036727 for faculty equity at mit AuyUzaAEqwY-00159-00036728-00037015 most recently he is the founding AuyUzaAEqwY-00160-00037016-00037143 director AuyUzaAEqwY-00161-00037144-00037518 of the mit hypersonics research team AuyUzaAEqwY-00162-00037519-00037759 which has been in existing been in AuyUzaAEqwY-00163-00037760-00037887 existence AuyUzaAEqwY-00164-00037888-00038271 since 2015 AuyUzaAEqwY-00165-00038272-00038543 he has won numerous awards and i will AuyUzaAEqwY-00166-00038544-00038639 only highlight AuyUzaAEqwY-00167-00038640-00038951 a few of them the AuyUzaAEqwY-00168-00038952-00039351 sigma sai distinguished lecturer AuyUzaAEqwY-00169-00039352-00039623 he was an outstanding uh he won the AuyUzaAEqwY-00170-00039624-00039718 outstanding AuyUzaAEqwY-00171-00039719-00040087 advocacy award from mit's council for AuyUzaAEqwY-00172-00040088-00040399 the advancement of black students AuyUzaAEqwY-00173-00040400-00040727 he won the presidential award from the AuyUzaAEqwY-00174-00040728-00040799 national AuyUzaAEqwY-00175-00040800-00040990 organization for the professional AuyUzaAEqwY-00176-00040991-00041111 advancement AuyUzaAEqwY-00177-00041112-00041567 of black chemists and chemical engineers AuyUzaAEqwY-00178-00041568-00041743 he is a fellow of the american AuyUzaAEqwY-00179-00041744-00041918 association for the advancement of AuyUzaAEqwY-00180-00041919-00042079 science AuyUzaAEqwY-00181-00042080-00042383 he's also an african scientific AuyUzaAEqwY-00182-00042384-00042607 institute fellow AuyUzaAEqwY-00183-00042608-00042990 american helicopter society fellow AuyUzaAEqwY-00184-00042991-00043374 american institute of aeronautics and AuyUzaAEqwY-00185-00043375-00043751 astronaut astronautics fellow AuyUzaAEqwY-00186-00043752-00043958 and he's a member of the national AuyUzaAEqwY-00187-00043959-00044215 academy of engineering and as i said AuyUzaAEqwY-00188-00044216-00044623 these are only some of his awards AuyUzaAEqwY-00189-00044624-00044902 his research specializations and AuyUzaAEqwY-00190-00044903-00045111 interests include AuyUzaAEqwY-00191-00045112-00045515 areas such as unsteady AuyUzaAEqwY-00192-00045516-00045918 aerodynamics aero acoustics AuyUzaAEqwY-00193-00045919-00046295 roto craft technology defense systems AuyUzaAEqwY-00194-00046296-00046607 acquisition lean financial management AuyUzaAEqwY-00195-00046608-00046774 methods AuyUzaAEqwY-00196-00046775-00047118 sustainment of capital assets AuyUzaAEqwY-00197-00047119-00047558 and sickle cell pathology AuyUzaAEqwY-00198-00047559-00047839 thus you see the breadth of his research AuyUzaAEqwY-00199-00047840-00048062 interests AuyUzaAEqwY-00200-00048063-00048423 please join me in welcoming professor AuyUzaAEqwY-00201-00048424-00048767 whitley wesley wes harris and by the way AuyUzaAEqwY-00202-00048768-00048846 you have a AuyUzaAEqwY-00203-00048847-00049271 a wonderful last name AuyUzaAEqwY-00204-00049272-00049551 um professor harris professor smith AuyUzaAEqwY-00205-00049552-00049686 professor rahman AuyUzaAEqwY-00206-00049687-00050015 i thank you very kindly for allowing me AuyUzaAEqwY-00207-00050016-00050215 to AuyUzaAEqwY-00208-00050216-00050383 have a conversation with you and our AuyUzaAEqwY-00209-00050384-00050662 friends throughout the country AuyUzaAEqwY-00210-00050663-00051071 on this occasion AuyUzaAEqwY-00211-00051072-00051575 having been around when nspe was founded AuyUzaAEqwY-00212-00051576-00051966 our organization the tip of the spear AuyUzaAEqwY-00213-00051967-00052263 for us in engineering AuyUzaAEqwY-00214-00052264-00052591 my heart is warmed by this opportunity AuyUzaAEqwY-00215-00052591-00052959 to share this evening with you AuyUzaAEqwY-00216-00052960-00053454 okay um AuyUzaAEqwY-00217-00053455-00053791 when first asked i was overjoyed AuyUzaAEqwY-00218-00053791-00054126 and certainly said yes then i asked AuyUzaAEqwY-00219-00054127-00054182 myself AuyUzaAEqwY-00220-00054183-00054438 well what should i attempt to AuyUzaAEqwY-00221-00054439-00054566 communicate AuyUzaAEqwY-00222-00054567-00054991 what should the message be AuyUzaAEqwY-00223-00054991-00055311 i discarded for this presentation any AuyUzaAEqwY-00224-00055312-00055791 presentation on statistics how many AuyUzaAEqwY-00225-00055791-00056159 african-american women are engineers how AuyUzaAEqwY-00226-00056160-00056207 many AuyUzaAEqwY-00227-00056208-00056479 african-american men or engineers how AuyUzaAEqwY-00228-00056479-00056542 many AuyUzaAEqwY-00229-00056544-00056935 latex latino men and women AuyUzaAEqwY-00230-00056936-00057287 are engineers that data is AuyUzaAEqwY-00231-00057288-00057671 interesting i think it's somewhat static AuyUzaAEqwY-00232-00057672-00058119 so i decided not to go there AuyUzaAEqwY-00233-00058120-00058382 what occurred to me to share with you AuyUzaAEqwY-00234-00058383-00058687 are successes AuyUzaAEqwY-00235-00058688-00059038 outstanding successes and AuyUzaAEqwY-00236-00059039-00059519 the next chart um AuyUzaAEqwY-00237-00059520-00059919 please advance the next chart yes do it AuyUzaAEqwY-00238-00059920-00060319 at the next no sorry AuyUzaAEqwY-00239-00060320-00060615 there we go okay i want to talk about AuyUzaAEqwY-00240-00060616-00060830 success AuyUzaAEqwY-00241-00060832-00061182 and i want to talk about excellence AuyUzaAEqwY-00242-00061183-00061599 in that success AuyUzaAEqwY-00243-00061600-00061903 somehow i was able to cross paths AuyUzaAEqwY-00244-00061904-00062230 with three outstanding african americans AuyUzaAEqwY-00245-00062232-00062615 in engineering they're listed there AuyUzaAEqwY-00246-00062616-00063082 with joe whitlow james hubbard patrick AuyUzaAEqwY-00247-00063083-00063359 handley AuyUzaAEqwY-00248-00063360-00063479 i've been blessed to have the AuyUzaAEqwY-00249-00063479-00063871 opportunity to work with these young men AuyUzaAEqwY-00250-00063872-00064206 in producing high quality scholarship AuyUzaAEqwY-00251-00064207-00064519 there's obviously a vote a whole AuyUzaAEqwY-00252-00064520-00064806 that i'm still trying to fill namely wes AuyUzaAEqwY-00253-00064807-00064935 when will you AuyUzaAEqwY-00254-00064936-00065319 direct a pc thesis AuyUzaAEqwY-00255-00065320-00065638 of an african-american woman woman so AuyUzaAEqwY-00256-00065639-00065879 i'm still trying to make that happen AuyUzaAEqwY-00257-00065880-00066079 but this evening this this evening i AuyUzaAEqwY-00258-00066080-00066271 want to talk about whitlow AuyUzaAEqwY-00259-00066272-00066543 who has matured to be as far as i'm AuyUzaAEqwY-00260-00066544-00066655 concerned AuyUzaAEqwY-00261-00066656-00066847 a leading aerospace researcher and AuyUzaAEqwY-00262-00066848-00067047 manager AuyUzaAEqwY-00263-00067048-00067287 i want to talk about jim hubbard who is AuyUzaAEqwY-00264-00067288-00067631 an academic and inventor AuyUzaAEqwY-00265-00067632-00067871 if you just count the letters in jim AuyUzaAEqwY-00266-00067872-00068167 hubbard's name AuyUzaAEqwY-00267-00068168-00068575 multiply by five you still won't have as AuyUzaAEqwY-00268-00068576-00068682 many AuyUzaAEqwY-00269-00068683-00069023 uh enough numbers to cover AuyUzaAEqwY-00270-00069024-00069350 the number of patents he has produced AuyUzaAEqwY-00271-00069351-00069694 and then i have among the top three AuyUzaAEqwY-00272-00069695-00070087 patrick hanley who is i described AuyUzaAEqwY-00273-00070088-00070671 as a entrepreneur second to none AuyUzaAEqwY-00274-00070672-00070847 if you take a look at the dates on this AuyUzaAEqwY-00275-00070848-00071319 chart they cover a decade AuyUzaAEqwY-00276-00071320-00071711 whitlow finishing in 1979 hubbard in 81 AuyUzaAEqwY-00277-00071712-00072094 and patrick henley in 89. AuyUzaAEqwY-00278-00072095-00072343 so there's a lot of seasoning for me a AuyUzaAEqwY-00279-00072344-00072494 lot of learning for me AuyUzaAEqwY-00280-00072495-00072950 that occurred in that decade AuyUzaAEqwY-00281-00072951-00073150 as reflected in the dates in which these AuyUzaAEqwY-00282-00073151-00073350 young men receive their phds AuyUzaAEqwY-00283-00073351-00073743 they are now seasoned individuals AuyUzaAEqwY-00284-00073744-00073999 their world line their success is well AuyUzaAEqwY-00285-00074000-00074182 documented AuyUzaAEqwY-00286-00074183-00074350 and i like to go back to the source of AuyUzaAEqwY-00287-00074351-00074494 that success AuyUzaAEqwY-00288-00074495-00074775 in terms of what actually occurred at AuyUzaAEqwY-00289-00074776-00074887 mit AuyUzaAEqwY-00290-00074888-00075150 what how were we able to work together AuyUzaAEqwY-00291-00075151-00075279 to bring out their AuyUzaAEqwY-00292-00075280-00075919 greatness their gifts AuyUzaAEqwY-00293-00075920-00076175 and i hope to summarize that in the AuyUzaAEqwY-00294-00076176-00076343 final chart AuyUzaAEqwY-00295-00076344-00076743 bring home the essence AuyUzaAEqwY-00296-00076744-00076950 the high quality what are the points AuyUzaAEqwY-00297-00076951-00077111 that these three young men have in AuyUzaAEqwY-00298-00077112-00077223 common AuyUzaAEqwY-00299-00077224-00077687 that led to such great success AuyUzaAEqwY-00300-00077688-00077935 now before i get jump into whitlow AuyUzaAEqwY-00301-00077936-00077991 hubbard AuyUzaAEqwY-00302-00077992-00078294 and hanley i i would like to just share AuyUzaAEqwY-00303-00078295-00078494 with you how AuyUzaAEqwY-00304-00078495-00078703 what was the pivotal thing in my life AuyUzaAEqwY-00305-00078704-00078871 what happened to wes AuyUzaAEqwY-00306-00078872-00079191 that led him to the point AuyUzaAEqwY-00307-00079192-00079438 where he crossed paths with whitlow AuyUzaAEqwY-00308-00079439-00079655 hubbard and hanley AuyUzaAEqwY-00309-00079656-00079943 what's the source so the next chart i AuyUzaAEqwY-00310-00079944-00080143 like to do that AuyUzaAEqwY-00311-00080144-00081175 start start with that on the next chart AuyUzaAEqwY-00312-00081176-00081543 okay so the source okay AuyUzaAEqwY-00313-00081544-00081782 um i'm as old as dirk so i was born in AuyUzaAEqwY-00314-00081783-00081879 richmond AuyUzaAEqwY-00315-00081880-00082238 in 1941. AuyUzaAEqwY-00316-00082239-00082543 a richmond was and and maybe even still AuyUzaAEqwY-00317-00082544-00082967 is a southern segregated city AuyUzaAEqwY-00318-00082968-00083223 from top to bottom from north to south AuyUzaAEqwY-00319-00083224-00083671 from east to west AuyUzaAEqwY-00320-00083672-00084071 on the chart on the far AuyUzaAEqwY-00321-00084072-00084406 before i left you have uh an entertainer AuyUzaAEqwY-00322-00084407-00084559 and his wife AuyUzaAEqwY-00323-00084560-00084887 buying a home in the 40s AuyUzaAEqwY-00324-00084888-00085167 in richmond all right and that's what a AuyUzaAEqwY-00325-00085168-00085231 home AuyUzaAEqwY-00326-00085232-00085535 looked like in the 40s that black folks AuyUzaAEqwY-00327-00085536-00085655 bought AuyUzaAEqwY-00328-00085656-00085926 okay look at the gentleman he has a AuyUzaAEqwY-00329-00085927-00086031 jacket on AuyUzaAEqwY-00330-00086032-00086311 he has a tie on his wife is neatly AuyUzaAEqwY-00331-00086312-00086462 dressed AuyUzaAEqwY-00332-00086463-00086791 and they're happy to walk into that AuyUzaAEqwY-00333-00086792-00087071 configuration but that's what's the best AuyUzaAEqwY-00334-00087072-00087382 we could do AuyUzaAEqwY-00335-00087383-00087823 the middle chart confirms the racist AuyUzaAEqwY-00336-00087824-00088175 school system that we had AuyUzaAEqwY-00337-00088176-00088462 when i started to school it was in a AuyUzaAEqwY-00338-00088463-00088623 wooden building AuyUzaAEqwY-00339-00088624-00089047 george mason elementary school AuyUzaAEqwY-00340-00089048-00089415 the second year the j AuyUzaAEqwY-00341-00089416-00089711 andrew bowler school opened it had AuyUzaAEqwY-00342-00089712-00089831 previously been AuyUzaAEqwY-00343-00089832-00090150 white a white only school AuyUzaAEqwY-00344-00090151-00090503 that school jay angel boulder i was made AuyUzaAEqwY-00345-00090504-00090535 of AuyUzaAEqwY-00346-00090536-00090935 quarry stone 22 inches thick AuyUzaAEqwY-00347-00090936-00091167 and in the center chart here you see AuyUzaAEqwY-00348-00091168-00091382 youngsters for the very first time AuyUzaAEqwY-00349-00091383-00091750 black ones going into jay AuyUzaAEqwY-00350-00091751-00092094 andrew bola elementary school AuyUzaAEqwY-00351-00092095-00092471 that was my second school AuyUzaAEqwY-00352-00092472-00092735 by the way to get to that school as well AuyUzaAEqwY-00353-00092736-00092943 as to get to george mason elementary AuyUzaAEqwY-00354-00092944-00093047 school AuyUzaAEqwY-00355-00093048-00093215 we walk from our black communities AuyUzaAEqwY-00356-00093216-00093479 through a hostile white community AuyUzaAEqwY-00357-00093480-00093759 and that was an experience in itself AuyUzaAEqwY-00358-00093760-00094167 that's how we got started AuyUzaAEqwY-00359-00094168-00094535 from education to health care AuyUzaAEqwY-00360-00094536-00094935 the chart on the far right was taken AuyUzaAEqwY-00361-00094936-00095494 at central state medical facility AuyUzaAEqwY-00362-00095495-00096071 that's a black brother at central state AuyUzaAEqwY-00363-00096072-00096406 that supposes being treated for a mental AuyUzaAEqwY-00364-00096407-00096662 illness AuyUzaAEqwY-00365-00096663-00097031 take a look at his surroundings AuyUzaAEqwY-00366-00097032-00097279 grab a hold of what it is that he had to AuyUzaAEqwY-00367-00097280-00097335 do AuyUzaAEqwY-00368-00097336-00097631 put up with just to breathe much less AuyUzaAEqwY-00369-00097632-00097735 medication AuyUzaAEqwY-00370-00097736-00098126 and care but that's good old virginia AuyUzaAEqwY-00371-00098127-00098615 good old richmond that's where i grew up AuyUzaAEqwY-00372-00098616-00098774 the next chart continues with this AuyUzaAEqwY-00373-00098775-00099543 source conversation AuyUzaAEqwY-00374-00099544-00099806 uh so the upper right i'm sorry upper AuyUzaAEqwY-00375-00099807-00099847 left AuyUzaAEqwY-00376-00099848-00100206 you see uh black young AuyUzaAEqwY-00377-00100207-00100518 young black girls reading books AuyUzaAEqwY-00378-00100519-00100799 you see a black woman uh preparing to AuyUzaAEqwY-00379-00100800-00100918 wash some dishes AuyUzaAEqwY-00380-00100919-00101382 and a white woman sort of directing AuyUzaAEqwY-00381-00101383-00101623 getting an education getting a book was AuyUzaAEqwY-00382-00101624-00101782 a real challenge for us AuyUzaAEqwY-00383-00101783-00102623 growing up in richmond AuyUzaAEqwY-00384-00102624-00102894 it was rare for a black person to act AuyUzaAEqwY-00385-00102895-00102975 alone AuyUzaAEqwY-00386-00102976-00103327 when it came to basic understanding AuyUzaAEqwY-00387-00103328-00103751 basic grab and hold of knowledge AuyUzaAEqwY-00388-00103752-00104127 on the lower left um we have a AuyUzaAEqwY-00389-00104128-00104439 congress of brothers all black AuyUzaAEqwY-00390-00104440-00104734 celebrating the last person in richmond AuyUzaAEqwY-00391-00104735-00104799 to be AuyUzaAEqwY-00392-00104800-00105134 inducted into the military for the AuyUzaAEqwY-00393-00105135-00105510 beginning of the second world war AuyUzaAEqwY-00394-00105511-00105902 and it was a it wasn't an achievement AuyUzaAEqwY-00395-00105903-00106102 colleagues it was an achievement to be AuyUzaAEqwY-00396-00106103-00106215 so selective at AuyUzaAEqwY-00397-00106216-00106527 all so the last person selected AuyUzaAEqwY-00398-00106528-00106958 was uh what's it called pleaser AuyUzaAEqwY-00399-00106959-00107302 the chart on the right sam glad AuyUzaAEqwY-00400-00107303-00107678 and his brother sam gladden my age we AuyUzaAEqwY-00401-00107679-00107790 played football together AuyUzaAEqwY-00402-00107791-00108015 at armstrong high school sam is the AuyUzaAEqwY-00403-00108016-00108127 brother on AuyUzaAEqwY-00404-00108128-00108454 the left side of that chart AuyUzaAEqwY-00405-00108455-00108615 so those of you who have been to the AuyUzaAEqwY-00406-00108616-00108934 south recognize what they are doing AuyUzaAEqwY-00407-00108935-00109183 they are in the center of richmond up on AuyUzaAEqwY-00408-00109183-00109502 lee street AuyUzaAEqwY-00409-00109503-00109927 summertime trying to keep cool AuyUzaAEqwY-00410-00109928-00110190 that's not a swimming pool colleagues AuyUzaAEqwY-00411-00110191-00110463 that's where horses go to drink AuyUzaAEqwY-00412-00110464-00110775 that's where horses go to drink AuyUzaAEqwY-00413-00110776-00111183 it was not a public pool so that's AuyUzaAEqwY-00414-00111183-00111510 that's what our recreation guys AuyUzaAEqwY-00415-00111511-00111958 next chart AuyUzaAEqwY-00416-00111959-00112263 okay on the far left AuyUzaAEqwY-00417-00112264-00112478 you see black young women are getting AuyUzaAEqwY-00418-00112479-00112599 serious AuyUzaAEqwY-00419-00112600-00112927 about some academics AuyUzaAEqwY-00420-00112928-00113158 and some activity that will draw out AuyUzaAEqwY-00421-00113159-00113278 their artistic AuyUzaAEqwY-00422-00113279-00113727 uh interest AuyUzaAEqwY-00423-00113728-00114015 um there's probably an age distribution AuyUzaAEqwY-00424-00114016-00114151 with those young women AuyUzaAEqwY-00425-00114152-00114423 i won't go uh into that but they appear AuyUzaAEqwY-00426-00114424-00114575 to be of a different age AuyUzaAEqwY-00427-00114576-00114783 maybe between the three of them a AuyUzaAEqwY-00428-00114783-00115007 difference of four to five years AuyUzaAEqwY-00429-00115008-00115358 but they are together working the middle AuyUzaAEqwY-00430-00115359-00115486 chart AuyUzaAEqwY-00431-00115488-00115727 that is a brother delivering textbooks AuyUzaAEqwY-00432-00115728-00115871 to the black community AuyUzaAEqwY-00433-00115872-00116119 we were not allowed to enter the AuyUzaAEqwY-00434-00116120-00116358 richmond public library AuyUzaAEqwY-00435-00116359-00116583 so we had to travel around and push AuyUzaAEqwY-00436-00116583-00116663 carts AuyUzaAEqwY-00437-00116664-00117023 with books in order to better serve the AuyUzaAEqwY-00438-00117024-00117199 black community AuyUzaAEqwY-00439-00117200-00117478 my mother and father paid taxes they AuyUzaAEqwY-00440-00117479-00117599 worked AuyUzaAEqwY-00441-00117600-00117807 and taxes supported the public library AuyUzaAEqwY-00442-00117808-00117999 but we were not allowed in to the public AuyUzaAEqwY-00443-00118000-00118278 library AuyUzaAEqwY-00444-00118279-00118719 now the chart on the far right is AuyUzaAEqwY-00445-00118720-00119134 a ban director at a public school AuyUzaAEqwY-00446-00119135-00119334 and you can see our youngsters playing AuyUzaAEqwY-00447-00119335-00119478 various instruments AuyUzaAEqwY-00448-00119479-00119799 um music understanding practice AuyUzaAEqwY-00449-00119800-00120054 writing music living music has always AuyUzaAEqwY-00450-00120055-00120175 been a part of us AuyUzaAEqwY-00451-00120176-00120383 and we've found a way to make that AuyUzaAEqwY-00452-00120383-00120654 happen even under the darkest most AuyUzaAEqwY-00453-00120655-00120966 bare situations AuyUzaAEqwY-00454-00120967-00122319 okay next chart please AuyUzaAEqwY-00455-00122320-00122590 okay so and all of that chaos and all of AuyUzaAEqwY-00456-00122591-00122902 that racism and all that segregation AuyUzaAEqwY-00457-00122903-00123119 there was a flowering of strength and AuyUzaAEqwY-00458-00123120-00123286 excellence AuyUzaAEqwY-00459-00123288-00123710 okay um high school is where i i went to AuyUzaAEqwY-00460-00123711-00124047 get my um AuyUzaAEqwY-00461-00124048-00124319 final pub public school training before AuyUzaAEqwY-00462-00124320-00124614 college AuyUzaAEqwY-00463-00124615-00124975 what a wonderful experience AuyUzaAEqwY-00464-00124976-00125278 what a foundational experience AuyUzaAEqwY-00465-00125279-00125799 what an electric experience AuyUzaAEqwY-00466-00125800-00126407 profound absolutely profound AuyUzaAEqwY-00467-00126408-00126783 mrs brown dr brown received a phd in AuyUzaAEqwY-00468-00126783-00127014 biology AuyUzaAEqwY-00469-00127015-00127263 and she taught biology at armstrong high AuyUzaAEqwY-00470-00127264-00127502 school when i was there AuyUzaAEqwY-00471-00127503-00127783 rozier diamond obtained her master's AuyUzaAEqwY-00472-00127783-00127943 degree in mathematics from columbia AuyUzaAEqwY-00473-00127944-00128039 university AuyUzaAEqwY-00474-00128040-00128366 she taught me AuyUzaAEqwY-00475-00128367-00128678 solid geometry plane geometry boolean AuyUzaAEqwY-00476-00128679-00128751 algebra AuyUzaAEqwY-00477-00128752-00129078 and calculus in high school AuyUzaAEqwY-00478-00129079-00129431 eloise boze washington i listed her AuyUzaAEqwY-00479-00129432-00129775 as in bold and underscored in physics AuyUzaAEqwY-00480-00129776-00130023 eloise bowes washington went north to AuyUzaAEqwY-00481-00130024-00130199 the university of pennsylvania AuyUzaAEqwY-00482-00130200-00130431 in the late 40s to earn a master's AuyUzaAEqwY-00483-00130432-00130534 degree AuyUzaAEqwY-00484-00130535-00130983 in physics came back to richmond AuyUzaAEqwY-00485-00130983-00131319 to teach in the public schools and yb AuyUzaAEqwY-00486-00131320-00131559 williams AuyUzaAEqwY-00487-00131560-00131935 obtained his phd in history and taught AuyUzaAEqwY-00488-00131936-00132302 history at our high school in richmond AuyUzaAEqwY-00489-00132303-00132623 so the mathematics the social concerns AuyUzaAEqwY-00490-00132624-00132807 the biology the physics AuyUzaAEqwY-00491-00132808-00133119 all were part of the excellent AuyUzaAEqwY-00492-00133120-00133575 the foundational the motivational AuyUzaAEqwY-00493-00133576-00133935 elements that propelled me AuyUzaAEqwY-00494-00133936-00134190 to better understand the world and up AuyUzaAEqwY-00495-00134191-00134319 opportunities that AuyUzaAEqwY-00496-00134320-00134751 were presented AuyUzaAEqwY-00497-00134752-00135063 lucille brown rosier diamond AuyUzaAEqwY-00498-00135064-00135463 eloise bose washington and yb williams AuyUzaAEqwY-00499-00135464-00135883 just a snipping of the high quality AuyUzaAEqwY-00500-00135884-00136054 teaching AuyUzaAEqwY-00501-00136055-00136423 mentoring directing guidance AuyUzaAEqwY-00502-00136424-00136671 love and care that was provided at AuyUzaAEqwY-00503-00136672-00136839 armstrong high school AuyUzaAEqwY-00504-00136840-00137111 totally segregated every single textbook AuyUzaAEqwY-00505-00137112-00137190 we had AuyUzaAEqwY-00506-00137191-00137375 in that school was a hand-me-down from AuyUzaAEqwY-00507-00137376-00137551 the white schools AuyUzaAEqwY-00508-00137552-00137775 sometimes the pages would be torn out AuyUzaAEqwY-00509-00137776-00137935 sometimes to the end work AuyUzaAEqwY-00510-00137936-00138295 will be written all over the pages AuyUzaAEqwY-00511-00138296-00138823 but we made it work we made it work AuyUzaAEqwY-00512-00138824-00139214 next chart please AuyUzaAEqwY-00513-00139215-00139454 okay and this this for me is one of the AuyUzaAEqwY-00514-00139455-00140007 pivotal events of my life AuyUzaAEqwY-00515-00140008-00140327 okay in the spring of my junior year i AuyUzaAEqwY-00516-00140328-00140766 built a cloud chamber AuyUzaAEqwY-00517-00140767-00141087 and my mentor my director uh AuyUzaAEqwY-00518-00141088-00141483 was eloise bose washington my physics AuyUzaAEqwY-00519-00141484-00141743 teacher AuyUzaAEqwY-00520-00141744-00142014 we wanted to actually observe the AuyUzaAEqwY-00521-00142015-00142078 collision AuyUzaAEqwY-00522-00142079-00142414 of alpha particles with water droplets AuyUzaAEqwY-00523-00142415-00142671 hence the cloud chamber the black cloth AuyUzaAEqwY-00524-00142672-00142863 on the bottom AuyUzaAEqwY-00525-00142864-00143087 the top was visible you could use a AuyUzaAEqwY-00526-00143088-00143254 camber and x collect AuyUzaAEqwY-00527-00143255-00143399 actually take photographs of the AuyUzaAEqwY-00528-00143400-00143607 collision dynamics of AuyUzaAEqwY-00529-00143608-00144023 alpha particles with water droplets AuyUzaAEqwY-00530-00144024-00144287 we built the chamber within amsong high AuyUzaAEqwY-00531-00144288-00144599 school okay we collected the dry ice we AuyUzaAEqwY-00532-00144600-00144647 needed AuyUzaAEqwY-00533-00144648-00144871 to generate the college all of which we AuyUzaAEqwY-00534-00144872-00145014 did within AuyUzaAEqwY-00535-00145015-00145319 aung high school now this was before AuyUzaAEqwY-00536-00145320-00145454 internet AuyUzaAEqwY-00537-00145455-00145823 you know you couldn't look up AuyUzaAEqwY-00538-00145824-00146151 how to do this we knew what we needed to AuyUzaAEqwY-00539-00146152-00146207 do AuyUzaAEqwY-00540-00146208-00146575 and we built this cloud chamber AuyUzaAEqwY-00541-00146576-00146799 all right so we built a cloud chamber AuyUzaAEqwY-00542-00146800-00146887 then we go AuyUzaAEqwY-00543-00146888-00147095 prancing right down to the block high AuyUzaAEqwY-00544-00147096-00147495 school science fair AuyUzaAEqwY-00545-00147496-00147983 it wins first place AuyUzaAEqwY-00546-00147984-00148311 it wins first place at virginia state AuyUzaAEqwY-00547-00148312-00148535 college AuyUzaAEqwY-00548-00148536-00148711 of all the high schools in the state of AuyUzaAEqwY-00549-00148712-00148895 virginia black ones AuyUzaAEqwY-00550-00148896-00149239 that that participated that project was AuyUzaAEqwY-00551-00149240-00149526 first place in physics AuyUzaAEqwY-00552-00149527-00149902 okay so i thought we were done AuyUzaAEqwY-00553-00149903-00150190 ms washington said wesley you are not AuyUzaAEqwY-00554-00150191-00150319 done AuyUzaAEqwY-00555-00150320-00150678 we go to the white high school science AuyUzaAEqwY-00556-00150679-00150783 fair AuyUzaAEqwY-00557-00150784-00151231 at the university of virginia AuyUzaAEqwY-00558-00151232-00151526 okay so mrs washington eloise bose AuyUzaAEqwY-00559-00151527-00151599 washington AuyUzaAEqwY-00560-00151600-00152014 i salute i say yes ma'am let's go AuyUzaAEqwY-00561-00152015-00152478 we came in third we came in third AuyUzaAEqwY-00562-00152479-00152814 in physics with our cloud chamber AuyUzaAEqwY-00563-00152815-00153119 at the white high school science fair on AuyUzaAEqwY-00564-00153120-00153223 ground AuyUzaAEqwY-00565-00153224-00153454 the university of virginia that AuyUzaAEqwY-00566-00153455-00153607 disturbed mrs washington AuyUzaAEqwY-00567-00153608-00154014 greatly she tried her best to defend me AuyUzaAEqwY-00568-00154015-00154231 and said it wasn't my fault said it was AuyUzaAEqwY-00569-00154232-00154375 her fault AuyUzaAEqwY-00570-00154376-00154711 that we came in third not first but AuyUzaAEqwY-00571-00154712-00155039 she said wesley sit down AuyUzaAEqwY-00572-00155040-00155359 i want to talk to you AuyUzaAEqwY-00573-00155360-00155607 number one you will go to university of AuyUzaAEqwY-00574-00155608-00155766 virginia AuyUzaAEqwY-00575-00155767-00155999 and you will go for three reasons one AuyUzaAEqwY-00576-00156000-00156183 your blackness AuyUzaAEqwY-00577-00156184-00156454 everyone on that at that universe will AuyUzaAEqwY-00578-00156455-00156519 look at you AuyUzaAEqwY-00579-00156520-00156847 and will not be confused about the fact AuyUzaAEqwY-00580-00156848-00157423 that you are an african-american AuyUzaAEqwY-00581-00157424-00157647 number two second reason for going you AuyUzaAEqwY-00582-00157648-00158023 will achieve you will do well AuyUzaAEqwY-00583-00158024-00158214 in the third reason and this is the AuyUzaAEqwY-00584-00158215-00158399 piece was so important AuyUzaAEqwY-00585-00158400-00158647 to mrs washington and she made it AuyUzaAEqwY-00586-00158648-00158807 presented to me in such a way that it AuyUzaAEqwY-00587-00158808-00159102 became important to me AuyUzaAEqwY-00588-00159103-00159254 that you will demonstrate to white AuyUzaAEqwY-00589-00159255-00159502 people AuyUzaAEqwY-00590-00159503-00160207 excellence in scholarship AuyUzaAEqwY-00591-00160208-00160599 this was the pivotal moment in my career AuyUzaAEqwY-00592-00160600-00160966 that meeting that set down wesley AuyUzaAEqwY-00593-00160967-00161254 we will now go forward and this is how AuyUzaAEqwY-00594-00161255-00161478 and why AuyUzaAEqwY-00595-00161479-00161671 the whole idea of excellence in AuyUzaAEqwY-00596-00161672-00161799 scholarship for AuyUzaAEqwY-00597-00161800-00162111 by and above black folks so as i'm AuyUzaAEqwY-00598-00162112-00162190 concerned AuyUzaAEqwY-00599-00162191-00162483 came to me through eloise bose AuyUzaAEqwY-00600-00162484-00162607 washington AuyUzaAEqwY-00601-00162608-00162902 and i had no fear once mrs washington AuyUzaAEqwY-00602-00162903-00163071 said do it i had AuyUzaAEqwY-00603-00163072-00163247 complete confidence that i would be AuyUzaAEqwY-00604-00163248-00163502 unprepared to do so AuyUzaAEqwY-00605-00163503-00164102 this for me was critically important AuyUzaAEqwY-00606-00164103-00164343 okay so that's the background folks the AuyUzaAEqwY-00607-00164344-00164478 rest of how i got to AuyUzaAEqwY-00608-00164479-00164814 mit is in material but this this is AuyUzaAEqwY-00609-00164815-00164935 foundational AuyUzaAEqwY-00610-00164936-00165263 eloise bose washington AuyUzaAEqwY-00611-00165264-00165671 a cloud chamber AuyUzaAEqwY-00612-00165672-00166007 excellence rewarded within the black AuyUzaAEqwY-00613-00166008-00166126 community AuyUzaAEqwY-00614-00166127-00166326 but not recognized in the white AuyUzaAEqwY-00615-00166327-00166647 community AuyUzaAEqwY-00616-00166648-00166951 eloise bose washington says wesley AuyUzaAEqwY-00617-00166952-00167231 we take this as an opportunity you will AuyUzaAEqwY-00618-00167232-00167438 demonstrate to them AuyUzaAEqwY-00619-00167439-00167799 white folks excellence and scholarship AuyUzaAEqwY-00620-00167800-00168543 next chart please AuyUzaAEqwY-00621-00168544-00168759 okay so now i want to talk about these AuyUzaAEqwY-00622-00168760-00168871 guys who AuyUzaAEqwY-00623-00168872-00169023 showed me what scholarship really was AuyUzaAEqwY-00624-00169024-00169190 about didn't AuyUzaAEqwY-00625-00169191-00169511 had no idea it was this high level when AuyUzaAEqwY-00626-00169512-00169695 i was at uva AuyUzaAEqwY-00627-00169696-00170095 whitlow um brittnell finishes AuyUzaAEqwY-00628-00170096-00170463 phd at mit in 79 the title of his phd AuyUzaAEqwY-00629-00170464-00170566 thesis AuyUzaAEqwY-00630-00170567-00170766 is application of the method of AuyUzaAEqwY-00631-00170767-00170895 parametric differentiation to AuyUzaAEqwY-00632-00170896-00171119 two-dimensional transsonic flows AuyUzaAEqwY-00633-00171120-00171407 and uh we'll talk a lot about that in AuyUzaAEqwY-00634-00171408-00171463 the next AuyUzaAEqwY-00635-00171464-00171838 several charts james hubbard AuyUzaAEqwY-00636-00171839-00172095 the academic the innovator the gentleman AuyUzaAEqwY-00637-00172096-00172166 with AuyUzaAEqwY-00638-00172167-00172647 an armed length of uh of patterns AuyUzaAEqwY-00639-00172648-00172966 okay a long thesis but let me make sure AuyUzaAEqwY-00640-00172967-00173566 i read every word of it dynamic pressure AuyUzaAEqwY-00641-00173567-00173911 and velocity trends AuyUzaAEqwY-00642-00173912-00174247 of a model helicopter rotor enhancing AuyUzaAEqwY-00643-00174248-00174599 blade slap AuyUzaAEqwY-00644-00174600-00175083 a high angle of attack and two tip AuyUzaAEqwY-00645-00175084-00175207 speeds AuyUzaAEqwY-00646-00175208-00175871 1981 AuyUzaAEqwY-00647-00175872-00176054 excuse the language but that it that AuyUzaAEqwY-00648-00176055-00176199 turned out to be AuyUzaAEqwY-00649-00176200-00176471 a hell of a thesis and if you just AuyUzaAEqwY-00650-00176472-00176671 slowly go through the title AuyUzaAEqwY-00651-00176672-00176983 of that thesis and ask what are these AuyUzaAEqwY-00652-00176984-00177031 words AuyUzaAEqwY-00653-00177032-00177335 what do they mean are they related AuyUzaAEqwY-00654-00177336-00177654 what was this gentleman really about AuyUzaAEqwY-00655-00177655-00177871 what was the state of technology when he AuyUzaAEqwY-00656-00177872-00178063 was doing this AuyUzaAEqwY-00657-00178064-00178551 how many breakthroughs are involved AuyUzaAEqwY-00658-00178552-00179014 and then mr hanley mr patrick hanley AuyUzaAEqwY-00659-00179015-00179423 the entrepreneur of the three AuyUzaAEqwY-00660-00179424-00179735 let's read this thesis slowly as well a AuyUzaAEqwY-00661-00179736-00179835 multi-domain AuyUzaAEqwY-00662-00179836-00180190 pseudo-spectral AuyUzaAEqwY-00663-00180191-00180495 solution for general frequency unsteady AuyUzaAEqwY-00664-00180496-00180863 transonic small disturbance equation hey AuyUzaAEqwY-00665-00180864-00181247 underscore general frequency AuyUzaAEqwY-00666-00181248-00181590 not just low frequency okay AuyUzaAEqwY-00667-00181591-00181919 arbitrary general AuyUzaAEqwY-00668-00181920-00182271 1989. so let me try to unpack these AuyUzaAEqwY-00669-00182272-00182335 three AuyUzaAEqwY-00670-00182336-00182647 achievements and then come back and AuyUzaAEqwY-00671-00182648-00182775 summarize AuyUzaAEqwY-00672-00182776-00183054 the character of these three gentlemen AuyUzaAEqwY-00673-00183055-00183638 next chart please AuyUzaAEqwY-00674-00183639-00183854 okay so this is a photograph on the AuyUzaAEqwY-00675-00183855-00184054 upper right of wardrobe whitlow AuyUzaAEqwY-00676-00184055-00184335 uh probably when he was still in grade AuyUzaAEqwY-00677-00184336-00184399 school AuyUzaAEqwY-00678-00184400-00184631 he doesn't look that way now uh but AuyUzaAEqwY-00679-00184632-00184926 that's that's whitlow AuyUzaAEqwY-00680-00184927-00185238 okay so what joe whitlow i he he's born AuyUzaAEqwY-00681-00185239-00185399 and reared in a place called AuyUzaAEqwY-00682-00185400-00185726 inkster michigan AuyUzaAEqwY-00683-00185727-00185975 okay that's the city built by ford motor AuyUzaAEqwY-00684-00185976-00186047 company AuyUzaAEqwY-00685-00186048-00186487 primarily for blacks who worked at ford AuyUzaAEqwY-00686-00186488-00186887 i came to mit as an undergraduate AuyUzaAEqwY-00687-00186888-00187543 state through his master's and phd AuyUzaAEqwY-00688-00187544-00187783 very fine gentlemen in every sense of AuyUzaAEqwY-00689-00187784-00188375 the word AuyUzaAEqwY-00690-00188376-00188719 we worked together on his phd thesis AuyUzaAEqwY-00691-00188720-00188943 at a time when computational fluid AuyUzaAEqwY-00692-00188944-00189083 dynamics was just AuyUzaAEqwY-00693-00189084-00189350 emerging there were some schemes that AuyUzaAEqwY-00694-00189351-00189599 were very slow AuyUzaAEqwY-00695-00189600-00190319 did not capture the shock correctly etc AuyUzaAEqwY-00696-00190320-00190678 so workload decided that if we really AuyUzaAEqwY-00697-00190679-00190735 want AuyUzaAEqwY-00698-00190736-00191047 a design algorithm where we want to be AuyUzaAEqwY-00699-00191048-00191111 able AuyUzaAEqwY-00700-00191112-00191326 to better understand the impact of angle AuyUzaAEqwY-00701-00191327-00191471 of attack AuyUzaAEqwY-00702-00191472-00191790 for example the AuyUzaAEqwY-00703-00191791-00192038 thickness ratio that is the thickness to AuyUzaAEqwY-00704-00192039-00192135 length of the AuyUzaAEqwY-00705-00192136-00192535 airfoil the reduced frequency AuyUzaAEqwY-00706-00192536-00192854 how rapidly are the AuyUzaAEqwY-00707-00192855-00193071 shocks moving on the upper surface of AuyUzaAEqwY-00708-00193072-00193238 the airflow for example AuyUzaAEqwY-00709-00193239-00193526 or the pitch and heat frequency and of AuyUzaAEqwY-00710-00193527-00193814 course buffering AuyUzaAEqwY-00711-00193815-00194071 so what what little did was use this AuyUzaAEqwY-00712-00194072-00194254 method of parametric differentiated AuyUzaAEqwY-00713-00194255-00194511 differentiation embedded into his AuyUzaAEqwY-00714-00194512-00194590 developed AuyUzaAEqwY-00715-00194591-00194990 cfd code that proved to be faster AuyUzaAEqwY-00716-00194991-00195311 more accurate more more robust AuyUzaAEqwY-00717-00195312-00195647 than then existing at that time cfd AuyUzaAEqwY-00718-00195648-00195838 codes AuyUzaAEqwY-00719-00195839-00196159 now woodrow whitlow left us at mit AuyUzaAEqwY-00720-00196160-00196663 he his first location was nasa langley AuyUzaAEqwY-00721-00196664-00196926 and from nasa langley he moved to other AuyUzaAEqwY-00722-00196927-00197159 locations within nasa AuyUzaAEqwY-00723-00197160-00197463 he was the the director AuyUzaAEqwY-00724-00197464-00197887 of the nasa glenn center in cleveland AuyUzaAEqwY-00725-00197888-00198311 he was the essential nasa employee AuyUzaAEqwY-00726-00198312-00198711 that led nasa to recover from the AuyUzaAEqwY-00727-00198712-00199031 columbia accident AuyUzaAEqwY-00728-00199032-00199495 he was at cape canaveral AuyUzaAEqwY-00729-00199496-00199887 at that particular time AuyUzaAEqwY-00730-00199888-00200095 following that he ended up at his last AuyUzaAEqwY-00731-00200096-00200214 job at nasa AuyUzaAEqwY-00732-00200215-00200471 was working in the administrator's AuyUzaAEqwY-00733-00200472-00200583 headquarters AuyUzaAEqwY-00734-00200584-00200854 and if you google uh whitlow you'll see AuyUzaAEqwY-00735-00200855-00201087 all sorts of activities involving him AuyUzaAEqwY-00736-00201088-00201471 in nasa okay to his AuyUzaAEqwY-00737-00201472-00201799 left is a photograph of uh transonic AuyUzaAEqwY-00738-00201800-00201863 flow AuyUzaAEqwY-00739-00201864-00202126 is schematic of transsonic flow over in AuyUzaAEqwY-00740-00202127-00202238 airfoil AuyUzaAEqwY-00741-00202239-00202543 and uh it's probably not legible not big AuyUzaAEqwY-00742-00202544-00202671 enough for you to see AuyUzaAEqwY-00743-00202672-00202863 but that's the kind of problems he was AuyUzaAEqwY-00744-00202864-00202975 working on AuyUzaAEqwY-00745-00202976-00203207 what is the location of that shock wave AuyUzaAEqwY-00746-00203208-00203407 how rapidly is it oscillating AuyUzaAEqwY-00747-00203408-00203759 what is the buffett effect and how do i AuyUzaAEqwY-00748-00203760-00203950 put another how do i examine another AuyUzaAEqwY-00749-00203951-00204143 shock wave of a different ratio AuyUzaAEqwY-00750-00204144-00204383 of a different line of attack he AuyUzaAEqwY-00751-00204384-00204799 integrated all of that into his code AuyUzaAEqwY-00752-00204800-00205046 and what you see on the lower side of AuyUzaAEqwY-00753-00205048-00205175 the right chart AuyUzaAEqwY-00754-00205176-00205551 is i think that's AuyUzaAEqwY-00755-00205552-00205927 737 max but that's AuyUzaAEqwY-00756-00205928-00206310 those planes don't have buffett anymore AuyUzaAEqwY-00757-00206311-00206590 certainly bowen has his own codes but AuyUzaAEqwY-00758-00206591-00207110 whitlow made his contributions as well AuyUzaAEqwY-00759-00207111-00207503 next chart please AuyUzaAEqwY-00760-00207504-00207694 okay on the upper right is professor AuyUzaAEqwY-00761-00207696-00207855 james herbert AuyUzaAEqwY-00762-00207856-00208655 he is our academic and our innovator AuyUzaAEqwY-00763-00208656-00208958 during the korean war the u.s forces AuyUzaAEqwY-00764-00208959-00209166 were losing helicopters AuyUzaAEqwY-00765-00209167-00209534 um quite frequently AuyUzaAEqwY-00766-00209535-00209855 and by the opposition AuyUzaAEqwY-00767-00209856-00210223 simply observing and with a hand pistol AuyUzaAEqwY-00768-00210223-00210527 being able to shoot the tail rudder the AuyUzaAEqwY-00769-00210528-00210742 helicopter becomes unstable AuyUzaAEqwY-00770-00210744-00211119 and crashes and he could do this AuyUzaAEqwY-00771-00211119-00211471 without any instrumentation right AuyUzaAEqwY-00772-00211471-00211703 that's the human ear the human ear is AuyUzaAEqwY-00773-00211704-00211791 all they needed AuyUzaAEqwY-00774-00211792-00212055 to distinguish which heli which type of AuyUzaAEqwY-00775-00212056-00212191 helicopter was AuyUzaAEqwY-00776-00212192-00212431 approaching and from which direction it AuyUzaAEqwY-00777-00212432-00212598 was approaching AuyUzaAEqwY-00778-00212600-00212879 so no complications that's a human year AuyUzaAEqwY-00779-00212880-00213079 and a four to five caliber pistol or AuyUzaAEqwY-00780-00213080-00213167 maybe even AuyUzaAEqwY-00781-00213167-00213646 less AuyUzaAEqwY-00782-00213648-00213815 so how do you handle it what is the AuyUzaAEqwY-00783-00213816-00213951 problem AuyUzaAEqwY-00784-00213952-00214142 what were they doing what were these AuyUzaAEqwY-00785-00214144-00214303 what were the opposition doing AuyUzaAEqwY-00786-00214304-00214494 they were listening to the acoustic AuyUzaAEqwY-00787-00214496-00214623 signature AuyUzaAEqwY-00788-00214623-00214991 of the helicopter AuyUzaAEqwY-00789-00214992-00215398 hueys chinooks AuyUzaAEqwY-00790-00215400-00215682 they all may have a different acoustic AuyUzaAEqwY-00791-00215683-00215934 signature AuyUzaAEqwY-00792-00215935-00216375 so if you want to manage the problem AuyUzaAEqwY-00793-00216376-00216534 of losing these helicopters you've got AuyUzaAEqwY-00794-00216535-00216927 to adjust the acoustic signature AuyUzaAEqwY-00795-00216928-00217046 and there are many types there's AuyUzaAEqwY-00796-00217048-00217228 broadband noise AuyUzaAEqwY-00797-00217229-00217351 [Music] AuyUzaAEqwY-00798-00217352-00218071 rotational noise and there's blade slap AuyUzaAEqwY-00799-00218071-00218503 blade slab what is that AuyUzaAEqwY-00800-00218504-00218791 now i would imagine jim hubbard asked AuyUzaAEqwY-00801-00218792-00218927 himself AuyUzaAEqwY-00802-00218928-00219239 what is the source of the noise and how AuyUzaAEqwY-00803-00219240-00219910 do i measure the source of the noise AuyUzaAEqwY-00804-00219911-00220103 you're probably asking himself what is AuyUzaAEqwY-00805-00220104-00220415 the noise propagation AuyUzaAEqwY-00806-00220416-00220982 pattern what's the envelope of the noise AuyUzaAEqwY-00807-00220983-00221358 and third AuyUzaAEqwY-00808-00221359-00221646 what does it look like physically what AuyUzaAEqwY-00809-00221648-00221879 is the rotor blade actually doing AuyUzaAEqwY-00810-00221880-00222223 where is the wake shed by that rotor AuyUzaAEqwY-00811-00222223-00222439 and what happens when the rotor blade AuyUzaAEqwY-00812-00222440-00222758 passes through that AuyUzaAEqwY-00813-00222759-00223079 a very very difficult problem you're in AuyUzaAEqwY-00814-00223080-00223158 a laboratory AuyUzaAEqwY-00815-00223159-00223463 an aerocore chamber you have rotating AuyUzaAEqwY-00816-00223464-00223582 blades AuyUzaAEqwY-00817-00223583-00223806 you ask the question what is the loading AuyUzaAEqwY-00818-00223807-00223991 on those blades AuyUzaAEqwY-00819-00223992-00224303 okay first part of the question will AuyUzaAEqwY-00820-00224304-00224519 this instrument the blade AuyUzaAEqwY-00821-00224519-00224831 oh oh what do you mean instrument the AuyUzaAEqwY-00822-00224832-00224894 blades AuyUzaAEqwY-00823-00224896-00225103 it's rotating how do i get those AuyUzaAEqwY-00824-00225104-00225263 measurements into AuyUzaAEqwY-00825-00225264-00225606 the laboratory frame remember now this AuyUzaAEqwY-00826-00225607-00225934 is still we're approaching 1981. how do AuyUzaAEqwY-00827-00225935-00226134 you do this AuyUzaAEqwY-00828-00226135-00226727 slip rings what no gold slip rings AuyUzaAEqwY-00829-00226728-00227094 right so he's got to build a blade AuyUzaAEqwY-00830-00227096-00227294 he's got to measure the loads on the AuyUzaAEqwY-00831-00227296-00227610 blade and he's got to AuyUzaAEqwY-00832-00227611-00227927 transmit that load through slip rings to AuyUzaAEqwY-00833-00227928-00228046 the laboratory system AuyUzaAEqwY-00834-00228048-00228367 laboratory frame AuyUzaAEqwY-00835-00228367-00228679 he also wants to see actually observe AuyUzaAEqwY-00836-00228680-00229119 that blade slashing through a vortex AuyUzaAEqwY-00837-00229119-00229271 how do you set that up how do you use AuyUzaAEqwY-00838-00229271-00229510 strobes to do this AuyUzaAEqwY-00839-00229511-00229846 so for the first time AuyUzaAEqwY-00840-00229848-00230255 in aerodynamics we're able to AuyUzaAEqwY-00841-00230256-00230506 understand to measure the source AuyUzaAEqwY-00842-00230507-00230958 simultaneously AuyUzaAEqwY-00843-00230959-00231167 measure the acoustic propagation the AuyUzaAEqwY-00844-00231167-00231327 four field noise AuyUzaAEqwY-00845-00231328-00231646 and visualize the intersection of the AuyUzaAEqwY-00846-00231648-00231951 tip of the vulva blade AuyUzaAEqwY-00847-00231952-00232319 with the trailing vortex AuyUzaAEqwY-00848-00232319-00232567 so this was an achievement colleagues AuyUzaAEqwY-00849-00232567-00232687 that AuyUzaAEqwY-00850-00232688-00233063 it still stands as a reference and AuyUzaAEqwY-00851-00233064-00233319 for as i'm concerned we define public AuyUzaAEqwY-00852-00233319-00233391 define AuyUzaAEqwY-00853-00233392-00233734 the limits of blade slap onset AuyUzaAEqwY-00854-00233735-00234039 he's gone on to be quite successful AuyUzaAEqwY-00855-00234040-00234255 he is a hagler fellow at texas a m AuyUzaAEqwY-00856-00234256-00234398 university AuyUzaAEqwY-00857-00234400-00234558 he is a member of the national academy AuyUzaAEqwY-00858-00234559-00234719 of engineering AuyUzaAEqwY-00859-00234719-00235282 he is the father of smart structures AuyUzaAEqwY-00860-00235283-00235631 um AuyUzaAEqwY-00861-00235632-00235798 he made similar contribution similar AuyUzaAEqwY-00862-00235800-00235982 contributions in industry AuyUzaAEqwY-00863-00235983-00236231 as well as at the university of maryland AuyUzaAEqwY-00864-00236232-00236334 in college park AuyUzaAEqwY-00865-00236335-00236694 and at langley AuyUzaAEqwY-00866-00236696-00237023 i'm a true superstar i'm AuyUzaAEqwY-00867-00237023-00237342 i'm so proud to to have met him and work AuyUzaAEqwY-00868-00237344-00237431 with him AuyUzaAEqwY-00869-00237432-00237663 and could call him not only a colleague AuyUzaAEqwY-00870-00237664-00237903 but a friend AuyUzaAEqwY-00871-00237904-00238479 next short AuyUzaAEqwY-00872-00238480-00238782 okay so this is my entrepreneur this is AuyUzaAEqwY-00873-00238783-00239094 patrick hanley saint kitts AuyUzaAEqwY-00874-00239096-00239446 nevis out in the atlantic oh by the way AuyUzaAEqwY-00875-00239448-00239575 i forgot to tell you AuyUzaAEqwY-00876-00239576-00239767 you probably saw it on the chart james AuyUzaAEqwY-00877-00239767-00239982 herbert danville AuyUzaAEqwY-00878-00239983-00240158 okay so i'm from richmond he's from AuyUzaAEqwY-00879-00240159-00240327 danville i'm AuyUzaAEqwY-00880-00240328-00240655 a generation two three generations older AuyUzaAEqwY-00881-00240656-00240871 but you can imagine what it was like in AuyUzaAEqwY-00882-00240871-00241006 danville as well AuyUzaAEqwY-00883-00241007-00241391 so hubbard has seen some of the better AuyUzaAEqwY-00884-00241392-00241719 the worst side of of of human AuyUzaAEqwY-00885-00241719-00241903 interaction as well AuyUzaAEqwY-00886-00241904-00242591 okay so um saint kitts nibis for patrick AuyUzaAEqwY-00887-00242592-00242903 um practice was a little bit different AuyUzaAEqwY-00888-00242904-00242991 from AuyUzaAEqwY-00889-00242992-00243319 whitlow and from hubbard whitlow and AuyUzaAEqwY-00890-00243319-00243494 herbert earned all of their degrees AuyUzaAEqwY-00891-00243496-00243910 at mit baccalaureate masters and phds AuyUzaAEqwY-00892-00243911-00244367 um patrick hanley came to us AuyUzaAEqwY-00893-00244367-00244727 from nyu i believe with AuyUzaAEqwY-00894-00244728-00244894 uh to join us so he earned his AuyUzaAEqwY-00895-00244896-00245030 baccalaureate degree AuyUzaAEqwY-00896-00245031-00245406 in new york came to us AuyUzaAEqwY-00897-00245407-00245710 with a background already in acoustics AuyUzaAEqwY-00898-00245711-00246071 um but a very good excellent applied AuyUzaAEqwY-00899-00246071-00246398 mathematician AuyUzaAEqwY-00900-00246400-00246934 understood transonics AuyUzaAEqwY-00901-00246935-00247271 jump deeply into nonlinear unsteady AuyUzaAEqwY-00902-00247271-00247415 transonics AuyUzaAEqwY-00903-00247416-00247551 where the problem is inherently AuyUzaAEqwY-00904-00247552-00247751 non-linear there is no AuyUzaAEqwY-00905-00247752-00248087 linear problem of any value at all and AuyUzaAEqwY-00906-00248088-00248287 the unsteady nonlinear transonics AuyUzaAEqwY-00907-00248288-00248598 problem AuyUzaAEqwY-00908-00248600-00248830 unsteadiness what on earth are you AuyUzaAEqwY-00909-00248831-00249015 talking about AuyUzaAEqwY-00910-00249016-00249230 what are you modeling the frequency of AuyUzaAEqwY-00911-00249231-00249606 these changes AuyUzaAEqwY-00912-00249607-00249871 the frequency of these changes and AuyUzaAEqwY-00913-00249871-00250063 notice what he's doing AuyUzaAEqwY-00914-00250064-00250287 in a multi-domain pseudospectral AuyUzaAEqwY-00915-00250288-00250446 solution AuyUzaAEqwY-00916-00250448-00250775 not cfd but a AuyUzaAEqwY-00917-00250776-00251239 spectral solution AuyUzaAEqwY-00918-00251240-00251510 wonderful job as far as i'm concerned AuyUzaAEqwY-00919-00251511-00251630 the most AuyUzaAEqwY-00920-00251631-00251975 most efficient solver high frequency AuyUzaAEqwY-00921-00251976-00252127 nonlinear transonic flow AuyUzaAEqwY-00922-00252128-00252351 over airflow sections certainly for his AuyUzaAEqwY-00923-00252352-00252527 time AuyUzaAEqwY-00924-00252528-00252894 patrick has gone on to build companies AuyUzaAEqwY-00925-00252896-00253303 uh he's also had the great fortune of AuyUzaAEqwY-00926-00253304-00253423 working in AuyUzaAEqwY-00927-00253423-00253679 companies owned by other are founded and AuyUzaAEqwY-00928-00253680-00253927 owned by other mit graduates AuyUzaAEqwY-00929-00253928-00254175 and i think if i'm not mistaken uh that AuyUzaAEqwY-00930-00254176-00254430 company's been bought and sold for AuyUzaAEqwY-00931-00254431-00254751 considerable amounts of money okay AuyUzaAEqwY-00932-00254752-00255503 next chart this is my last one AuyUzaAEqwY-00933-00255504-00255846 whitlow hubbard AuyUzaAEqwY-00934-00255848-00256151 handling AuyUzaAEqwY-00935-00256152-00256382 what are their gifts what made the AuyUzaAEqwY-00936-00256383-00256791 difference AuyUzaAEqwY-00937-00256792-00257119 in my my old age i've identified AuyUzaAEqwY-00938-00257119-00257455 six qualities assets AuyUzaAEqwY-00939-00257456-00257934 gifts that these three young men share AuyUzaAEqwY-00940-00257935-00258406 extremely high intelligence AuyUzaAEqwY-00941-00258407-00258703 all of them went right through the mit AuyUzaAEqwY-00942-00258704-00258927 phd requirements AuyUzaAEqwY-00943-00258928-00259119 hitting home runs at every step of the AuyUzaAEqwY-00944-00259119-00259415 way AuyUzaAEqwY-00945-00259416-00259719 they understood their research their phd AuyUzaAEqwY-00946-00259719-00259910 research AuyUzaAEqwY-00947-00259911-00260287 will pose problems each of them AuyUzaAEqwY-00948-00260288-00260494 knowing when they have solved the world AuyUzaAEqwY-00949-00260496-00260758 pose problem AuyUzaAEqwY-00950-00260759-00261223 high intelligence AuyUzaAEqwY-00951-00261223-00261558 fearless these guys would run through AuyUzaAEqwY-00952-00261559-00261679 brick walls AuyUzaAEqwY-00953-00261680-00261951 nothing would intimidate them nothing AuyUzaAEqwY-00954-00261952-00262055 would AuyUzaAEqwY-00955-00262056-00262455 make them afraid AuyUzaAEqwY-00956-00262456-00262663 i really mean that in the mit AuyUzaAEqwY-00957-00262664-00262758 environment AuyUzaAEqwY-00958-00262759-00262975 and these gentlemen will tell you we had AuyUzaAEqwY-00959-00262976-00263127 our black group AuyUzaAEqwY-00960-00263128-00263503 of researchers okay AuyUzaAEqwY-00961-00263504-00263775 martin landau came from sweden he had AuyUzaAEqwY-00962-00263776-00263863 his swedish AuyUzaAEqwY-00963-00263864-00264206 mafia of graduate students AuyUzaAEqwY-00964-00264207-00264510 trillion and walkman had their israeli AuyUzaAEqwY-00965-00264511-00264799 mafia of graduate students so we worked AuyUzaAEqwY-00966-00264800-00264863 together AuyUzaAEqwY-00967-00264864-00265087 as african americans we had a couple of AuyUzaAEqwY-00968-00265088-00265215 white students in there AuyUzaAEqwY-00969-00265216-00265599 and certainly east asian students AuyUzaAEqwY-00970-00265600-00266023 we were fearless we were fearless AuyUzaAEqwY-00971-00266024-00266375 back down from no challenge AuyUzaAEqwY-00972-00266376-00266879 these gentlemen were resourceful AuyUzaAEqwY-00973-00266880-00267127 pick on either one of them and ask how AuyUzaAEqwY-00974-00267128-00267430 did you get this done AuyUzaAEqwY-00975-00267431-00267630 it was lying around for you to just pick AuyUzaAEqwY-00976-00267631-00267791 it up and do it AuyUzaAEqwY-00977-00267792-00268015 what resources did you actually use to AuyUzaAEqwY-00978-00268016-00268134 do this AuyUzaAEqwY-00979-00268135-00268447 how did you figure out you needed to go AuyUzaAEqwY-00980-00268448-00268671 lay the slip rings for example in AuyUzaAEqwY-00981-00268672-00268815 hubbard's case AuyUzaAEqwY-00982-00268816-00268982 how do you do this how do you be AuyUzaAEqwY-00983-00268983-00269119 successful AuyUzaAEqwY-00984-00269120-00269455 okay self-confident and i don't mean AuyUzaAEqwY-00985-00269456-00269543 cockiness AuyUzaAEqwY-00986-00269544-00269782 i mean these young men were prepared do AuyUzaAEqwY-00987-00269783-00269895 the hard work AuyUzaAEqwY-00988-00269896-00270095 and they showed their self-confidence AuyUzaAEqwY-00989-00270096-00270287 they stood with their heads AuyUzaAEqwY-00990-00270288-00270599 up their shoulders back their chest AuyUzaAEqwY-00991-00270600-00270791 out and stomach and they were AuyUzaAEqwY-00992-00270792-00271071 self-confident and were never afraid AuyUzaAEqwY-00993-00271072-00271319 of any intellectual challenge that off AuyUzaAEqwY-00994-00271320-00271582 that came their way AuyUzaAEqwY-00995-00271583-00271903 resilient absolutely knocked down AuyUzaAEqwY-00996-00271904-00272415 uh-uh i'm getting up AuyUzaAEqwY-00997-00272416-00272791 and last but not least intentional AuyUzaAEqwY-00998-00272792-00273082 intentional about excellence in AuyUzaAEqwY-00999-00273083-00273319 scholarship AuyUzaAEqwY-01000-00273320-00273639 mrs eloise bose washington AuyUzaAEqwY-01001-00273640-00273895 would marvel at these young man AuyUzaAEqwY-01002-00273896-00274071 achievements AuyUzaAEqwY-01003-00274072-00274430 so for nspe my objective AuyUzaAEqwY-01004-00274431-00274639 tonight this evening is to share with AuyUzaAEqwY-01005-00274640-00274734 you AuyUzaAEqwY-01006-00274735-00275015 some of the strength that i've observed AuyUzaAEqwY-01007-00275016-00275151 in our black AuyUzaAEqwY-01008-00275152-00275495 young scholars it's been an enormously AuyUzaAEqwY-01009-00275496-00275782 rewarding journey for me AuyUzaAEqwY-01010-00275783-00276079 these young men are still contributing AuyUzaAEqwY-01011-00276080-00276503 to the advancement of scholarship AuyUzaAEqwY-01012-00276504-00276839 they're some of the strongest i've ever AuyUzaAEqwY-01013-00276840-00276927 met AuyUzaAEqwY-01014-00276928-00277158 and it's been my blessing to have met AuyUzaAEqwY-01015-00277159-00277310 them AuyUzaAEqwY-01016-00277311-00277967 thank you AuyUzaAEqwY-01017-00277968-00278263 thank you so much dr harris for that AuyUzaAEqwY-01018-00278264-00278391 inspirational AuyUzaAEqwY-01019-00278392-00278710 and just very AuyUzaAEqwY-01020-00278711-00279015 awesome presentation we have a few AuyUzaAEqwY-01021-00279016-00279071 minutes AuyUzaAEqwY-01022-00279072-00279367 left and we have about eight minutes AuyUzaAEqwY-01023-00279368-00279510 left and so AuyUzaAEqwY-01024-00279511-00279830 i'd like to open up the floor for any AuyUzaAEqwY-01025-00279831-00279927 questions AuyUzaAEqwY-01026-00279928-00280206 if you have a question please raise your AuyUzaAEqwY-01027-00280207-00280351 hand AuyUzaAEqwY-01028-00280352-00280567 um also let's give him a virtual AuyUzaAEqwY-01029-00280568-00280703 applause you should have AuyUzaAEqwY-01030-00280704-00281039 a reaction button i think and you can AuyUzaAEqwY-01031-00281040-00281351 there you go thumbs up hearts let's give AuyUzaAEqwY-01032-00281352-00281382 him AuyUzaAEqwY-01033-00281383-00281775 an applause thank you okay so i see leo AuyUzaAEqwY-01034-00281776-00281887 green has his hand AuyUzaAEqwY-01035-00281888-00282295 up for a question please go ahead leo AuyUzaAEqwY-01036-00282296-00282599 yes um excellent excellent talk very AuyUzaAEqwY-01037-00282600-00282687 motivational AuyUzaAEqwY-01038-00282688-00283030 um i have a question regarding AuyUzaAEqwY-01039-00283031-00283327 one of your statements that you AuyUzaAEqwY-01040-00283328-00283415 mentioned AuyUzaAEqwY-01041-00283416-00283791 uh in your storyline uh at the beginning AuyUzaAEqwY-01042-00283792-00284215 and it had to do with um demonstrating AuyUzaAEqwY-01043-00284216-00284527 excellence in scholarship to white folks AuyUzaAEqwY-01044-00284528-00284854 and i wonder if that latter part has AuyUzaAEqwY-01045-00284855-00284934 changed AuyUzaAEqwY-01046-00284935-00285415 over years over over your years AuyUzaAEqwY-01047-00285416-00285687 demonstrating excellence to a specific AuyUzaAEqwY-01048-00285688-00285839 group yes AuyUzaAEqwY-01049-00285840-00286030 leo it has changed there's no question AuyUzaAEqwY-01050-00286031-00286439 about that um AuyUzaAEqwY-01051-00286440-00286767 so you remember that story right i was AuyUzaAEqwY-01052-00286768-00286927 under the under the AuyUzaAEqwY-01053-00286928-00287175 the spell let's say of eloise boze AuyUzaAEqwY-01054-00287176-00287247 washington AuyUzaAEqwY-01055-00287248-00287415 this was an african-american woman that AuyUzaAEqwY-01056-00287416-00287582 went north in the 40s AuyUzaAEqwY-01057-00287583-00287758 for some strange reason to earn a AuyUzaAEqwY-01058-00287759-00287903 master's degree in physics AuyUzaAEqwY-01059-00287904-00288175 at the university of pennsylvania AuyUzaAEqwY-01060-00288176-00288351 imagine what she had to go through AuyUzaAEqwY-01061-00288352-00288806 in that experience leo AuyUzaAEqwY-01062-00288807-00288967 out of the south going north to AuyUzaAEqwY-01063-00288968-00289134 philadelphia what would she do AuyUzaAEqwY-01064-00289135-00289519 when she wanted to get a hair effects AuyUzaAEqwY-01065-00289520-00289687 was she asked to sit in the back of the AuyUzaAEqwY-01066-00289688-00289927 classroom earning her piece earning her AuyUzaAEqwY-01067-00289928-00290110 master's in physics AuyUzaAEqwY-01068-00290111-00290334 but she do all of that and came back to AuyUzaAEqwY-01069-00290335-00290591 richmond AuyUzaAEqwY-01070-00290592-00290879 and for that generation as well as mine AuyUzaAEqwY-01071-00290880-00290910 the AuyUzaAEqwY-01072-00290911-00291327 idea was how do you produce scholarship AuyUzaAEqwY-01073-00291328-00291615 that was absolute that white folks would AuyUzaAEqwY-01074-00291616-00291663 accept AuyUzaAEqwY-01075-00291664-00291982 would accept i mean that's AuyUzaAEqwY-01076-00291983-00292191 that's what motivated the scientists of AuyUzaAEqwY-01077-00292192-00292423 that era AuyUzaAEqwY-01078-00292424-00292719 and it has changed since then but AuyUzaAEqwY-01079-00292720-00292943 remember now this was AuyUzaAEqwY-01080-00292944-00293303 in my junior year in high school when uh AuyUzaAEqwY-01081-00293304-00293503 ms washington eloise bose washington AuyUzaAEqwY-01082-00293504-00293623 said sit down AuyUzaAEqwY-01083-00293624-00294167 we've got to talk AuyUzaAEqwY-01084-00294168-00294527 thank you i love it AuyUzaAEqwY-01085-00294528-00294695 all right i see i didn't see who was AuyUzaAEqwY-01086-00294696-00294863 first but i'll just go and order AuyUzaAEqwY-01087-00294864-00295327 um kajumba then john jenkins AuyUzaAEqwY-01088-00295328-00295510 oh thank you very much for the wonderful AuyUzaAEqwY-01089-00295511-00295647 presentation AuyUzaAEqwY-01090-00295648-00295919 uh my question is about the last like AuyUzaAEqwY-01091-00295920-00295999 the lung AuyUzaAEqwY-01092-00296000-00296239 here you have told us about intelligence AuyUzaAEqwY-01093-00296240-00296351 fear is AuyUzaAEqwY-01094-00296352-00296606 mine it goes under fearless when you AuyUzaAEqwY-01095-00296607-00296703 look at the AuyUzaAEqwY-01096-00296704-00296958 current trend if you are kind of AuyUzaAEqwY-01097-00296959-00297079 fearless AuyUzaAEqwY-01098-00297080-00297254 they take you to be someone who is not AuyUzaAEqwY-01099-00297255-00297415 respectful so AuyUzaAEqwY-01100-00297416-00297639 how do you find a balance between being AuyUzaAEqwY-01101-00297640-00298199 fearless and respectful at the same time AuyUzaAEqwY-01102-00298200-00298567 okay um so how do i balance AuyUzaAEqwY-01103-00298568-00299023 being fearless with the other part AuyUzaAEqwY-01104-00299024-00299279 of your question ah the other point is AuyUzaAEqwY-01105-00299280-00299534 being respectful like respecting because AuyUzaAEqwY-01106-00299535-00299782 yeah all right yes okay so let me put AuyUzaAEqwY-01107-00299783-00300182 fearless in context AuyUzaAEqwY-01108-00300183-00300575 um i i don't mean being voiceless or AuyUzaAEqwY-01109-00300576-00300951 having guns or knives or sticks AuyUzaAEqwY-01110-00300952-00301479 or anything of that sort AuyUzaAEqwY-01111-00301480-00301958 i mean having an interest inter strength AuyUzaAEqwY-01112-00301959-00302430 that you are prepared to face adversity AuyUzaAEqwY-01113-00302431-00302679 and it can come from a relationship with AuyUzaAEqwY-01114-00302680-00302839 your advisor AuyUzaAEqwY-01115-00302840-00303215 it can come from um going down a dark AuyUzaAEqwY-01116-00303216-00303319 alley AuyUzaAEqwY-01117-00303320-00303543 in terms of research and you hit a AuyUzaAEqwY-01118-00303544-00303695 hitter hit a stone wall AuyUzaAEqwY-01119-00303696-00303975 you got to find a way around that just AuyUzaAEqwY-01120-00303976-00304023 not AuyUzaAEqwY-01121-00304024-00304279 being afraid having confidence in AuyUzaAEqwY-01122-00304280-00304351 yourself AuyUzaAEqwY-01123-00304352-00304623 based on preparation that you're that AuyUzaAEqwY-01124-00304624-00304823 you will in fact AuyUzaAEqwY-01125-00304824-00305199 not cop out and be a trump AuyUzaAEqwY-01126-00305200-00305319 but you're going to stay there and get AuyUzaAEqwY-01127-00305320-00305606 the job done AuyUzaAEqwY-01128-00305607-00306103 i think that is being respectful AuyUzaAEqwY-01129-00306104-00306271 i think that's saying to the world into AuyUzaAEqwY-01130-00306272-00306543 oneself AuyUzaAEqwY-01131-00306544-00306799 that i believe that i really do have AuyUzaAEqwY-01132-00306800-00306847 faith AuyUzaAEqwY-01133-00306848-00307167 that we'll get this done AuyUzaAEqwY-01134-00307168-00307406 so so and that's how i'm using the word AuyUzaAEqwY-01135-00307407-00307510 fearless AuyUzaAEqwY-01136-00307511-00307854 okay and it it's not it's not a AuyUzaAEqwY-01137-00307855-00307975 rubberizer AuyUzaAEqwY-01138-00307976-00308358 no it's the inner strength to face AuyUzaAEqwY-01139-00308359-00308823 challenges AuyUzaAEqwY-01140-00308824-00309103 okay i'd like to say this um i think one AuyUzaAEqwY-01141-00309104-00309382 of the most important things about a phd AuyUzaAEqwY-01142-00309383-00309630 for three things one money you gotta AuyUzaAEqwY-01143-00309631-00309767 support students AuyUzaAEqwY-01144-00309768-00310071 two the research topic and three AuyUzaAEqwY-01145-00310072-00310279 the quality of the relationship between AuyUzaAEqwY-01146-00310280-00310519 the student and the advisor AuyUzaAEqwY-01147-00310520-00310863 okay paramount if any of those three AuyUzaAEqwY-01148-00310864-00311110 are out of order you can have a very AuyUzaAEqwY-01149-00311111-00311223 very difficult time AuyUzaAEqwY-01150-00311224-00311551 if not impossible AuyUzaAEqwY-01151-00311552-00311743 two people a group of folk getting AuyUzaAEqwY-01152-00311744-00311951 together trying to do research AuyUzaAEqwY-01153-00311952-00312282 you got to be fearless to make that AuyUzaAEqwY-01154-00312283-00312663 happen AuyUzaAEqwY-01155-00312664-00312991 john hey how you doing wes AuyUzaAEqwY-01156-00312992-00313215 good to see you good to see you as well AuyUzaAEqwY-01157-00313216-00313375 i missed the early part of your talk but AuyUzaAEqwY-01158-00313376-00313415 i AuyUzaAEqwY-01159-00313416-00313639 got that in the middle of the of the AuyUzaAEqwY-01160-00313640-00313734 hubbard show there AuyUzaAEqwY-01161-00313735-00314047 that um i want to comment uh on uh AuyUzaAEqwY-01162-00314048-00314534 your fearless description i think um AuyUzaAEqwY-01163-00314535-00314839 you know uh mentors and mentees uh as AuyUzaAEqwY-01164-00314840-00314934 you were describing AuyUzaAEqwY-01165-00314935-00315119 the relationship is just so very AuyUzaAEqwY-01166-00315120-00315254 important AuyUzaAEqwY-01167-00315255-00315567 uh and uh i think AuyUzaAEqwY-01168-00315568-00315934 you were a pioneer uh wes and uh i would AuyUzaAEqwY-01169-00315935-00316006 um AuyUzaAEqwY-01170-00316007-00316295 i'd maybe describe things uh uh maybe AuyUzaAEqwY-01171-00316296-00316487 using other adjectives AuyUzaAEqwY-01172-00316488-00316791 uh tenacious AuyUzaAEqwY-01173-00316792-00317175 uh relentless uh uh AuyUzaAEqwY-01174-00317176-00317454 just when you uh as you say when you run AuyUzaAEqwY-01175-00317455-00317582 into a AuyUzaAEqwY-01176-00317583-00317830 uh an obstacle you you consider it a AuyUzaAEqwY-01177-00317831-00318015 temporary setback you say okay AuyUzaAEqwY-01178-00318016-00318310 what's the way around this and just the AuyUzaAEqwY-01179-00318311-00318399 tenacity AuyUzaAEqwY-01180-00318400-00318727 that i observed and wes harris as a as a AuyUzaAEqwY-01181-00318728-00318830 young man AuyUzaAEqwY-01182-00318831-00318999 uh has stuck with you through your AuyUzaAEqwY-01183-00319000-00319239 career and i think it was a contagious AuyUzaAEqwY-01184-00319240-00319310 disease AuyUzaAEqwY-01185-00319311-00319671 apparently because your mentees AuyUzaAEqwY-01186-00319672-00319919 likewise i see as being very tenacious AuyUzaAEqwY-01187-00319920-00320030 and AuyUzaAEqwY-01188-00320031-00320319 and willing to take a long view and work AuyUzaAEqwY-01189-00320320-00320382 hard AuyUzaAEqwY-01190-00320383-00320639 to to get the job done even if there are AuyUzaAEqwY-01191-00320640-00320895 obstacles so i think this tenacity AuyUzaAEqwY-01192-00320896-00321191 is perhaps i would describe it uh your AuyUzaAEqwY-01193-00321192-00321271 your AuyUzaAEqwY-01194-00321272-00321575 your fearlessness has implies uh AuyUzaAEqwY-01195-00321576-00321839 tenacity in my opinion AuyUzaAEqwY-01196-00321840-00322134 thank you john for those of you so AuyUzaAEqwY-01197-00322135-00322215 assembled AuyUzaAEqwY-01198-00322216-00322527 uh professor john jenkins is AuyUzaAEqwY-01199-00322528-00322847 the president of texas a m university AuyUzaAEqwY-01200-00322848-00323143 uh we go back more than 50 years when we AuyUzaAEqwY-01201-00323144-00323191 shared AuyUzaAEqwY-01202-00323192-00323503 a small office together AuyUzaAEqwY-01203-00323504-00323687 at the university of virginia in the AuyUzaAEqwY-01204-00323688-00323903 department of aerospace engineering AuyUzaAEqwY-01205-00323904-00324095 so we've been bumping around into each AuyUzaAEqwY-01206-00324096-00324215 other um AuyUzaAEqwY-01207-00324216-00324575 for for 50 years um he's a very modest AuyUzaAEqwY-01208-00324576-00324639 gentleman AuyUzaAEqwY-01209-00324640-00324767 so he would not tell you that he's AuyUzaAEqwY-01210-00324768-00324999 president of a m but he is AuyUzaAEqwY-01211-00325000-00325158 uh and he's also an outstanding AuyUzaAEqwY-01212-00325159-00325303 researcher and achiever AuyUzaAEqwY-01213-00325304-00325719 of the first magnitude puts me to shame AuyUzaAEqwY-01214-00325720-00325967 when he compares his production his AuyUzaAEqwY-01215-00325968-00326054 productivity AuyUzaAEqwY-01216-00326055-00326447 to mine okay i don't see AuyUzaAEqwY-01217-00326448-00326591 we haven't bumped into each other on the AuyUzaAEqwY-01218-00326592-00326775 basketball court about 40 something AuyUzaAEqwY-01219-00326776-00327023 years so AuyUzaAEqwY-01220-00327024-00327206 the beginning of our bonding i think AuyUzaAEqwY-01221-00327207-00327399 even though we shared in offers AuyUzaAEqwY-01222-00327400-00327623 that helped us out a little bit yeah it AuyUzaAEqwY-01223-00327624-00327719 did AuyUzaAEqwY-01224-00327720-00327991 you did i just have to say i know we're AuyUzaAEqwY-01225-00327992-00328078 just about AuyUzaAEqwY-01226-00328079-00328439 out of time but um thank you dr jenkins AuyUzaAEqwY-01227-00328440-00328695 for your time with us and i also want to AuyUzaAEqwY-01228-00328696-00328767 acknowledge AuyUzaAEqwY-01229-00328768-00329143 uh two of dr harris's former students AuyUzaAEqwY-01230-00329144-00329382 that are here quietly in the background AuyUzaAEqwY-01231-00329383-00329606 i see patrick hanley here AuyUzaAEqwY-01232-00329607-00329878 and james hubbard if you want to unmute AuyUzaAEqwY-01233-00329879-00329943 and just AuyUzaAEqwY-01234-00329944-00330319 say a few words we welcome that AuyUzaAEqwY-01235-00330320-00330663 otherwise yeah you should say some words AuyUzaAEqwY-01236-00330664-00330991 um you guys are amazing um AuyUzaAEqwY-01237-00330992-00331334 so please uh dr hanley and AuyUzaAEqwY-01238-00331335-00331695 doctor this is this is jim harbert AuyUzaAEqwY-01239-00331696-00331927 i'll say a few short words i've been AuyUzaAEqwY-01240-00331928-00332039 under the spell AuyUzaAEqwY-01241-00332040-00332447 of west harris for 40 years AuyUzaAEqwY-01242-00332448-00332710 i would like for everyone here to know AuyUzaAEqwY-01243-00332711-00332878 that AuyUzaAEqwY-01244-00332879-00333199 wes talked about aerodynamics AuyUzaAEqwY-01245-00333200-00333487 but what i love about wes is he's not AuyUzaAEqwY-01246-00333488-00333695 like most engineers AuyUzaAEqwY-01247-00333696-00334103 most engineers uh engineer some specific AuyUzaAEqwY-01248-00334104-00334430 system or technology i want you to know AuyUzaAEqwY-01249-00334431-00334551 that wes harris AuyUzaAEqwY-01250-00334552-00334878 engineers engineers okay AuyUzaAEqwY-01251-00334879-00335223 he built me from the ground up i was a AuyUzaAEqwY-01252-00335224-00335310 violent kid AuyUzaAEqwY-01253-00335311-00335599 living in baltimore maryland never heard AuyUzaAEqwY-01254-00335600-00335687 of mit AuyUzaAEqwY-01255-00335688-00336047 and wes harris flew to my house in a bad AuyUzaAEqwY-01256-00336048-00336158 neighborhood AuyUzaAEqwY-01257-00336159-00336382 and talked to my mama and got permission AuyUzaAEqwY-01258-00336383-00336671 to spank me if i misbehaved AuyUzaAEqwY-01259-00336672-00337039 wow my final statement about wes is AuyUzaAEqwY-01260-00337040-00337239 you know there's a great chinese saying AuyUzaAEqwY-01261-00337240-00337439 a superior man AuyUzaAEqwY-01262-00337440-00337654 it's long but one of the statements in AuyUzaAEqwY-01263-00337655-00337830 there says AuyUzaAEqwY-01264-00337831-00338143 and seeking no recognition recognition AuyUzaAEqwY-01265-00338144-00338447 never leaves him and that's my AuyUzaAEqwY-01266-00338448-00338719 advisor and mentor wes harris and i'm AuyUzaAEqwY-01267-00338720-00338758 done AuyUzaAEqwY-01268-00338759-00339143 i'm out thank you AuyUzaAEqwY-01269-00339144-00339478 dr hanley putting you on the spot AuyUzaAEqwY-01270-00339479-00340606 would you like to say a few words AuyUzaAEqwY-01271-00340607-00340799 um if you're talking you probably are AuyUzaAEqwY-01272-00340800-00340927 still muted AuyUzaAEqwY-01273-00340928-00341295 i don't know he's trying to talk AuyUzaAEqwY-01274-00341296-00341503 is he still here oh there he is okay are AuyUzaAEqwY-01275-00341504-00341837 you muted AuyUzaAEqwY-01276-00341838-00342689 [Music] AuyUzaAEqwY-01277-00342690-00343127 [Music] AuyUzaAEqwY-01278-00343128-00343543 and speaking of fearless AuyUzaAEqwY-01279-00343544-00343847 um i remember when i would go to AuyUzaAEqwY-01280-00343848-00343958 professor AuyUzaAEqwY-01281-00343959-00344382 office with a problem what he would say AuyUzaAEqwY-01282-00344383-00345182 you can do that AuyUzaAEqwY-01283-00345183-00345558 yes i can do it and AuyUzaAEqwY-01284-00345559-00345951 just go back and actually do it so AuyUzaAEqwY-01285-00345952-00346215 it's i don't know where the smell is AuyUzaAEqwY-01286-00346216-00346423 just came from but AuyUzaAEqwY-01287-00346424-00346719 um just as possible how we can solve AuyUzaAEqwY-01288-00346720-00346863 problems AuyUzaAEqwY-01289-00346864-00347167 and how we can approach not only the AuyUzaAEqwY-01290-00347168-00347278 technical AuyUzaAEqwY-01291-00347279-00347510 um aspect of the program but other AuyUzaAEqwY-01292-00347511-00347599 people AuyUzaAEqwY-01293-00347600-00347927 and how to take take advantages AuyUzaAEqwY-01294-00347928-00348263 of all the resources at mit AuyUzaAEqwY-01295-00348264-00348534 and then i had other a lot of people in AuyUzaAEqwY-01296-00348535-00348727 mathematics and AuyUzaAEqwY-01297-00348728-00348982 there are knowledge and just to get the AuyUzaAEqwY-01298-00348983-00349087 problem there AuyUzaAEqwY-01299-00349088-00349478 and just on professor harris's advice AuyUzaAEqwY-01300-00349479-00349782 and wisdom and personal health um AuyUzaAEqwY-01301-00349783-00350134 that's all of them thanks AuyUzaAEqwY-01302-00350135-00350543 thank you thank you thank you so much so AuyUzaAEqwY-01303-00350544-00350895 herrera may i uh recognize AuyUzaAEqwY-01304-00350896-00351271 uh barrett yes is this left AuyUzaAEqwY-01305-00351272-00351591 no is he oh here he is uh uh AuyUzaAEqwY-01306-00351592-00351887 professor caldwell cardwell uh he's an AuyUzaAEqwY-01307-00351888-00351951 mit AuyUzaAEqwY-01308-00351952-00352254 product as well we bumped in to him or AuyUzaAEqwY-01309-00352255-00352367 to each other AuyUzaAEqwY-01310-00352368-00352519 uh when he was obtaining his AuyUzaAEqwY-01311-00352520-00353006 baccalaureate degree at mit AuyUzaAEqwY-01312-00353007-00353343 you um i i have to say AuyUzaAEqwY-01313-00353344-00353775 that um professor harris uh AuyUzaAEqwY-01314-00353776-00354167 was extremely influential to me AuyUzaAEqwY-01315-00354168-00354430 partially because he was scary he was AuyUzaAEqwY-01316-00354431-00354519 not just AuyUzaAEqwY-01317-00354520-00354830 fearless he was fear inducing AuyUzaAEqwY-01318-00354831-00355182 um but AuyUzaAEqwY-01319-00355183-00355391 one of the things that became the most AuyUzaAEqwY-01320-00355392-00355534 important to me AuyUzaAEqwY-01321-00355535-00355863 remember that for me AuyUzaAEqwY-01322-00355864-00356215 as a black undergraduate AuyUzaAEqwY-01323-00356216-00356519 at mit which with all due respect AuyUzaAEqwY-01324-00356520-00356815 my aero astro colleagues at purdue is AuyUzaAEqwY-01325-00356816-00356878 still AuyUzaAEqwY-01326-00356879-00357134 perhaps the greatest aero astro program AuyUzaAEqwY-01327-00357135-00357358 ever created AuyUzaAEqwY-01328-00357359-00357687 and i actually got to see a faculty AuyUzaAEqwY-01329-00357688-00358071 member who looked like me AuyUzaAEqwY-01330-00358072-00358375 as an undergraduate and he told me not AuyUzaAEqwY-01331-00358376-00358503 to work with him AuyUzaAEqwY-01332-00358504-00358999 just because he looked like me AuyUzaAEqwY-01333-00359000-00359247 if i worked with him because i was AuyUzaAEqwY-01334-00359248-00359358 interested AuyUzaAEqwY-01335-00359359-00359687 in unsteady flow in AuyUzaAEqwY-01336-00359688-00360110 transonics in rotocraft AuyUzaAEqwY-01337-00360111-00360391 uh unstable dynamics those were great AuyUzaAEqwY-01338-00360392-00360471 things AuyUzaAEqwY-01339-00360472-00360799 i i i was in space systems so AuyUzaAEqwY-01340-00360800-00361103 so no AuyUzaAEqwY-01341-00361104-00361423 but that lesson of being excellent AuyUzaAEqwY-01342-00361424-00361727 was something that AuyUzaAEqwY-01343-00361728-00361991 made it possible for me to be a faculty AuyUzaAEqwY-01344-00361992-00362078 member AuyUzaAEqwY-01345-00362079-00362687 and to be an AuyUzaAEqwY-01346-00362688-00363030 a mentor and a representative AuyUzaAEqwY-01347-00363031-00363391 to other people because i had AuyUzaAEqwY-01348-00363392-00363799 professor harris to watch so thank you AuyUzaAEqwY-01349-00363800-00364271 thank you thank you um AuyUzaAEqwY-01350-00364272-00364630 dr harris thank you so much again AuyUzaAEqwY-01351-00364631-00364847 we have a session a closed session right AuyUzaAEqwY-01352-00364848-00364943 after this AuyUzaAEqwY-01353-00364944-00365351 um i do invite um all the bte fellows AuyUzaAEqwY-01354-00365352-00365687 dr wesley harris dr james hubbard AuyUzaAEqwY-01355-00365688-00365958 dr patrick hanley and you as well dr AuyUzaAEqwY-01356-00365959-00366103 barrett caldwell AuyUzaAEqwY-01357-00366104-00366343 to stay on and other faculty that will AuyUzaAEqwY-01358-00366344-00366423 almost see AuyUzaAEqwY-01359-00366424-00366806 lucia dr castillo stay on for the AuyUzaAEqwY-01360-00366807-00367023 the q a but everyone else we thank you AuyUzaAEqwY-01361-00367024-00367182 for your time the recording will be AuyUzaAEqwY-01362-00367183-00367295 available AuyUzaAEqwY-01363-00367296-00367671 um soon and you can watch the replay but AuyUzaAEqwY-01364-00367672-00367839 we have a closed session AuyUzaAEqwY-01365-00367840-00368623 after this thank you for your time AuyUzaAEqwY-01366-00368624-00368831 you AvO45dTVHBu-00000-00000119-00000351 foreign AvO45dTVHBu-00001-00000352-00000869 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00002-00000869-00001169 did you become aware AvO45dTVHBu-00003-00001170-00001469 that something might have happened to AvO45dTVHBu-00004-00001470-00001871 Hannah AvO45dTVHBu-00005-00001872-00002213 no one has seen her for three days AvO45dTVHBu-00006-00002214-00002560 I just had a feeling AvO45dTVHBu-00007-00002561-00002813 something bad had happened AvO45dTVHBu-00008-00002814-00003065 detective looked at both of us he said I AvO45dTVHBu-00009-00003066-00003197 just don't think this is going to end AvO45dTVHBu-00010-00003198-00003695 well AvO45dTVHBu-00011-00003696-00003922 I told a silver vehicle was parked AvO45dTVHBu-00012-00003923-00004079 somewhere in this area AvO45dTVHBu-00013-00004079-00004438 she noticed a white Israeli AvO45dTVHBu-00014-00004439-00004631 she got a text message AvO45dTVHBu-00015-00004632-00004906 from Hannah's phone telling her forget AvO45dTVHBu-00016-00004907-00005329 it AvO45dTVHBu-00017-00005330-00005543 I really hope you all find Her Like AvO45dTVHBu-00018-00005544-00005836 She's even got me worried she confirmed AvO45dTVHBu-00019-00005837-00005951 that was AvO45dTVHBu-00020-00005952-00006118 someone who looked very similar to the AvO45dTVHBu-00021-00006119-00006352 person she saw at the silver vehicle I AvO45dTVHBu-00022-00006353-00006569 remember looking at my sergeant and AvO45dTVHBu-00023-00006570-00007475 thinking we may have the guy here AvO45dTVHBu-00024-00007476-00007692 Matt with Foul Play AvO45dTVHBu-00025-00007693-00007955 the detective said we've got Hannah's AvO45dTVHBu-00026-00007956-00008195 car they found a tremendous amount of AvO45dTVHBu-00027-00008196-00008596 blood in the trunk AvO45dTVHBu-00028-00008597-00008799 foreign AvO45dTVHBu-00029-00008800-00009709 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00030-00009710-00010013 and tonight we're on the case in AvO45dTVHBu-00031-00010014-00010342 Gainesville Florida the thriving City in AvO45dTVHBu-00032-00010343-00010595 the northern part of the state became AvO45dTVHBu-00033-00010596-00010931 the backdrop for a shocking mystery when AvO45dTVHBu-00034-00010932-00011219 a pregnant mother vanished Without a AvO45dTVHBu-00035-00011220-00011309 Trace AvO45dTVHBu-00036-00011310-00011627 as police began their investigation a AvO45dTVHBu-00037-00011628-00011891 truffling series of Clues quickly fell AvO45dTVHBu-00038-00011892-00012245 into place and left them convinced that AvO45dTVHBu-00039-00012246-00012587 Hannah zaner was most likely the victim AvO45dTVHBu-00040-00012588-00013301 of January 23 2016. AvO45dTVHBu-00041-00013302-00013522 chilly morning in Gainesville Florida AvO45dTVHBu-00042-00013523-00013853 when art and Susan zaner got a troubling AvO45dTVHBu-00043-00013854-00014093 phone call about their 23 year old AvO45dTVHBu-00044-00014094-00014363 daughter Hannah AvO45dTVHBu-00045-00014363-00014663 when did you become aware AvO45dTVHBu-00046-00014663-00014969 that something might have happened to AvO45dTVHBu-00047-00014969-00015215 Hannah I got a phone call AvO45dTVHBu-00048-00015216-00015329 from AvO45dTVHBu-00049-00015330-00015563 the manager at the hotel where she was AvO45dTVHBu-00050-00015563-00015715 staying AvO45dTVHBu-00051-00015716-00016036 and the manager said Hannah's checkout AvO45dTVHBu-00052-00016037-00016439 date is tomorrow I haven't seen her for AvO45dTVHBu-00053-00016440-00016553 two days AvO45dTVHBu-00054-00016554-00016780 do you know if she's going to come and AvO45dTVHBu-00055-00016781-00017117 check out Susan was instantly concerned AvO45dTVHBu-00056-00017118-00017339 I said well let me try to get a hold of AvO45dTVHBu-00057-00017340-00017567 her and I couldn't get a hold of her her AvO45dTVHBu-00058-00017568-00017813 phone went to voicemail AvO45dTVHBu-00059-00017814-00017975 tried calling a couple of her friends AvO45dTVHBu-00060-00017976-00018347 just trying to find out where she is AvO45dTVHBu-00061-00018348-00018749 but no one had seen or heard from her in AvO45dTVHBu-00062-00018750-00019385 days AvO45dTVHBu-00063-00019386-00019619 that her daughter was going through a AvO45dTVHBu-00064-00019620-00019799 very tough time AvO45dTVHBu-00065-00019800-00020044 the young mother of a toddler had AvO45dTVHBu-00066-00020045-00020435 recently separated from her husband AvO45dTVHBu-00067-00020436-00020789 she was also 17 weeks pregnant while AvO45dTVHBu-00068-00020790-00021113 living at an extended stay hotel AvO45dTVHBu-00069-00021114-00021305 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00070-00021306-00021539 Susan then explained the situation to AvO45dTVHBu-00071-00021540-00021857 her husband art AvO45dTVHBu-00072-00021858-00022121 my wife and I hadn't heard from her and AvO45dTVHBu-00073-00022122-00022325 that was unusual we knew where she was AvO45dTVHBu-00074-00022326-00022769 staying at and we said we need to go see AvO45dTVHBu-00075-00022770-00023039 if she's there AvO45dTVHBu-00076-00023040-00023297 a half hour later AvO45dTVHBu-00077-00023298-00023543 Hannah's parents pulled into the parking AvO45dTVHBu-00078-00023544-00023741 lot AvO45dTVHBu-00079-00023742-00024022 what's the first thing you noticed when AvO45dTVHBu-00080-00024023-00024203 you arrived at the hotel that her car AvO45dTVHBu-00081-00024204-00024400 was not there AvO45dTVHBu-00082-00024401-00024725 for a moment the couple breathed a sigh AvO45dTVHBu-00083-00024726-00024857 of relief AvO45dTVHBu-00084-00024858-00025139 perhaps Hannah had simply driven AvO45dTVHBu-00085-00025140-00025361 somewhere to help when the hotel manager AvO45dTVHBu-00086-00025362-00025600 allowed the zaners into Hannah's room AvO45dTVHBu-00087-00025601-00025972 they became convinced their daughter was AvO45dTVHBu-00088-00025973-00026547 in trouble AvO45dTVHBu-00089-00026548-00026779 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00090-00026780-00027095 signs of a struggle inside that room oh AvO45dTVHBu-00091-00027095-00027167 no AvO45dTVHBu-00092-00027168-00027496 but I saw all of her stuff AvO45dTVHBu-00093-00027497-00027731 still in that room AvO45dTVHBu-00094-00027732-00027946 her hairbrush was there her toothbrush AvO45dTVHBu-00095-00027947-00028205 was there toothpaste all of her clothes AvO45dTVHBu-00096-00028206-00028468 were there her charger for her phone was AvO45dTVHBu-00097-00028469-00028558 there AvO45dTVHBu-00098-00028560-00028762 all that was really missing was her AvO45dTVHBu-00099-00028763-00028877 purse AvO45dTVHBu-00100-00028877-00029117 and her jacket AvO45dTVHBu-00101-00029118-00029393 I just had a feeling something bad had AvO45dTVHBu-00102-00029394-00029620 happened Police Department AvO45dTVHBu-00103-00029622-00029849 you have an emergency our daughter is AvO45dTVHBu-00104-00029850-00030118 missing where is she last seen that AvO45dTVHBu-00105-00030119-00030377 a Florida Motel we're in a room looking AvO45dTVHBu-00106-00030377-00030545 at her stuff my wife she's really AvO45dTVHBu-00107-00030545-00030785 concerned AvO45dTVHBu-00108-00030786-00031420 I heard the call go over the radio AvO45dTVHBu-00109-00031422-00031667 he said part and Susan zaner AvO45dTVHBu-00110-00031668-00031840 as soon as I heard that AvO45dTVHBu-00111-00031841-00032279 I'm like I gotta go AvO45dTVHBu-00112-00032280-00032531 officer Nicholas bird had known the AvO45dTVHBu-00113-00032532-00032818 zaner family since he was a teenager he AvO45dTVHBu-00114-00032819-00033065 was certain that Hannah would have told AvO45dTVHBu-00115-00033066-00033461 her mother if she was going somewhere AvO45dTVHBu-00116-00033462-00033845 she had a beautiful little boy AvO45dTVHBu-00117-00033846-00034159 and The Evidence Officer bird discovered AvO45dTVHBu-00118-00034160-00034427 deepened those suspicions AvO45dTVHBu-00119-00034428-00034559 there were personal items that were left AvO45dTVHBu-00120-00034560-00034793 behind all the little toiletry items AvO45dTVHBu-00121-00034794-00034912 that one would carry when they were AvO45dTVHBu-00122-00034913-00035081 traveling that if somebody were running AvO45dTVHBu-00123-00035082-00035429 away they would have taken with them AvO45dTVHBu-00124-00035430-00035657 as he glanced at Hannah's personal AvO45dTVHBu-00125-00035658-00035951 effects Officer Byrd noticed something AvO45dTVHBu-00126-00035952-00036209 odd AvO45dTVHBu-00127-00036210-00036467 found this pouch it was kind of like a AvO45dTVHBu-00128-00036468-00036773 small makeup bag AvO45dTVHBu-00129-00036774-00037018 and I saw some numbers that were written AvO45dTVHBu-00130-00037019-00037229 on the inside of that bag and it AvO45dTVHBu-00131-00037230-00037595 absolutely caught my eye AvO45dTVHBu-00132-00037596-00037967 the veteran officer was certain to see AvO45dTVHBu-00133-00037968-00038123 a VIN number AvO45dTVHBu-00134-00038124-00038374 written handwriting on AvO45dTVHBu-00135-00038375-00038615 the silk lying of the inside of a makeup AvO45dTVHBu-00136-00038616-00039029 bag is definitely odd so I ran that VIN AvO45dTVHBu-00137-00039030-00039407 number and I was able to AvO45dTVHBu-00138-00039408-00039646 track that number back to a vehicle that AvO45dTVHBu-00139-00039647-00040127 was driven by Nelson arms AvO45dTVHBu-00140-00040128-00040468 I was able to verify that Nelson was AvO45dTVHBu-00141-00040469-00040739 someone that was in Hannah's life AvO45dTVHBu-00142-00040740-00040990 police help the lead the lead might help AvO45dTVHBu-00143-00040991-00041261 them find Hannah AvO45dTVHBu-00144-00041262-00041615 but her friend had no idea why she had AvO45dTVHBu-00145-00041616-00041933 written down the number AvO45dTVHBu-00146-00041934-00042130 did he say AvO45dTVHBu-00147-00042131-00042424 and police quickly learned that he AvO45dTVHBu-00148-00042425-00042730 wasn't alone there had been no sightings AvO45dTVHBu-00149-00042731-00043085 of Hannah for several days AvO45dTVHBu-00150-00043086-00043390 we did an initial emergency order to AvO45dTVHBu-00151-00043391-00043624 obtain her cell phone records everything AvO45dTVHBu-00152-00043625-00043912 seemed to stop on the 19th of January AvO45dTVHBu-00153-00043913-00044099 there was no activity on her cell phone AvO45dTVHBu-00154-00044100-00044339 at all to anyone her social media AvO45dTVHBu-00155-00044340-00044680 accounts weren't showing anything I just AvO45dTVHBu-00156-00044681-00045107 had a really really bad gut feeling AvO45dTVHBu-00157-00045108-00045730 that something had happened AvO45dTVHBu-00158-00045731-00046030 the veteran investigator shared his gut AvO45dTVHBu-00159-00046031-00046415 feeling with Hannah's family and he said AvO45dTVHBu-00160-00046416-00046589 do you want me to lie to you or do you AvO45dTVHBu-00161-00046590-00046937 want me to tell you the truth AvO45dTVHBu-00162-00046938-00047123 and she said you better tell me the AvO45dTVHBu-00163-00047124-00047380 truth AvO45dTVHBu-00164-00047381-00047573 and he said I just don't think this is AvO45dTVHBu-00165-00047574-00048842 going to end well AvO45dTVHBu-00166-00048843-00049405 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00167-00049406-00049708 police and loved ones of 23 year old AvO45dTVHBu-00168-00049709-00050002 Hannah zaner were on a desperate quest AvO45dTVHBu-00169-00050003-00050324 to find her AvO45dTVHBu-00170-00050325-00050435 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00171-00050436-00050573 never AvO45dTVHBu-00172-00050574-00050758 expect AvO45dTVHBu-00173-00050759-00051161 the worst AvO45dTVHBu-00174-00051162-00051437 but a timeline of the 23 year old AvO45dTVHBu-00175-00051438-00051670 mother's last known movements indicated AvO45dTVHBu-00176-00051671-00051911 she had been off the grid for several AvO45dTVHBu-00177-00051912-00052096 days AvO45dTVHBu-00178-00052097-00052337 what was the point at which you believed AvO45dTVHBu-00179-00052338-00052630 she might be In Harm's Way She had not AvO45dTVHBu-00180-00052632-00052853 had any contact with any of her friends AvO45dTVHBu-00181-00052854-00053104 any of her family she had not been on AvO45dTVHBu-00182-00053105-00053363 any social media she had not been using AvO45dTVHBu-00183-00053364-00053632 her phone at all since the 19th of AvO45dTVHBu-00184-00053633-00053975 January AvO45dTVHBu-00185-00053976-00054161 and the first first Target of the AvO45dTVHBu-00186-00054162-00054394 investigation seemed clear AvO45dTVHBu-00187-00054395-00054688 Hannah was 17 weeks pregnant we speak AvO45dTVHBu-00188-00054689-00054971 with her estranged husband yes obviously AvO45dTVHBu-00189-00054972-00055144 we knew that their relationship was AvO45dTVHBu-00190-00055145-00055391 strained a little bit so we were able to AvO45dTVHBu-00191-00055391-00055625 reach out to him and get his initial AvO45dTVHBu-00192-00055626-00055876 statement did he admit going through a AvO45dTVHBu-00193-00055877-00056429 rough patch yes AvO45dTVHBu-00194-00056429-00056747 Hannah's husband was distraught and told AvO45dTVHBu-00195-00056748-00057088 police he still loved her AvO45dTVHBu-00196-00057089-00057376 he expressed that he wanted to get back AvO45dTVHBu-00197-00057377-00057592 together with Hannah and raise their AvO45dTVHBu-00198-00057594-00057875 child that he was hoping to to mend the AvO45dTVHBu-00199-00057876-00058091 relationship but she was the one that AvO45dTVHBu-00200-00058091-00058361 was having you know second thoughts AvO45dTVHBu-00201-00058362-00058637 had he heard from Hannah he also had not AvO45dTVHBu-00202-00058638-00058871 heard from her I was able to get a hold AvO45dTVHBu-00203-00058872-00059585 of her AvO45dTVHBu-00204-00059586-00059903 relationship issues would never have AvO45dTVHBu-00205-00059904-00060100 prevented her from seeing their young AvO45dTVHBu-00206-00060101-00060299 son AvO45dTVHBu-00207-00060300-00060497 what did he say to you about her AvO45dTVHBu-00208-00060498-00060749 commitment to their child he relayed AvO45dTVHBu-00209-00060750-00061385 that she was a good mother AvO45dTVHBu-00210-00061386-00061673 tailed account of his whereabouts on AvO45dTVHBu-00211-00061674-00062021 January 19th AvO45dTVHBu-00212-00062022-00062435 say he was on the day that all of AvO45dTVHBu-00213-00062436-00062711 Hannah's cell activity and social media AvO45dTVHBu-00214-00062712-00063575 activity stopped vehicle AvO45dTVHBu-00215-00063576-00063923 The Alibi appeared solid and there was AvO45dTVHBu-00216-00063924-00064259 no evidence that contradicted it could AvO45dTVHBu-00217-00064260-00064480 you and your investigative team find AvO45dTVHBu-00218-00064482-00064744 anything linking him to Hannah's AvO45dTVHBu-00219-00064745-00064973 disappearance no we were never able to AvO45dTVHBu-00220-00064974-00065188 find anything that linked him to her AvO45dTVHBu-00221-00065189-00065719 disappearance AvO45dTVHBu-00222-00065720-00066005 Hannah's parents agreed with the AvO45dTVHBu-00223-00066006-00066226 investigator's conclusion AvO45dTVHBu-00224-00066227-00066491 did you think it was possible that her AvO45dTVHBu-00225-00066492-00066767 estranged husband had something to do AvO45dTVHBu-00226-00066768-00067013 with her disappearance AvO45dTVHBu-00227-00067014-00067288 no I never thought that at least a voice AvO45dTVHBu-00228-00067289-00067499 to her and he would have never laid a AvO45dTVHBu-00229-00067500-00067955 hand on her never AvO45dTVHBu-00230-00067956-00068129 foreign AvO45dTVHBu-00231-00068130-00068453 police continued to dig deeper into AvO45dTVHBu-00232-00068454-00068669 Hannah's last known movements and AvO45dTVHBu-00233-00068670-00068887 discovered that her close friend Abriana AvO45dTVHBu-00234-00068888-00069305 had actually seen her at noon on January AvO45dTVHBu-00235-00069306-00069556 19th AvO45dTVHBu-00236-00069557-00069869 she dropped me off at AvO45dTVHBu-00237-00069870-00070163 my work and that was the last time I saw AvO45dTVHBu-00238-00070164-00070517 her AvO45dTVHBu-00239-00070518-00070991 an hour later Hannah sent Abriana a text AvO45dTVHBu-00240-00070992-00071225 she texted me around one but I couldn't AvO45dTVHBu-00241-00071226-00071494 really talk because I was at work and AvO45dTVHBu-00242-00071495-00071687 Confused that day AvO45dTVHBu-00243-00071688-00071941 she was splitting up from her husband AvO45dTVHBu-00244-00071942-00072185 and she was trying to figure out what AvO45dTVHBu-00245-00072186-00072335 she wanted AvO45dTVHBu-00246-00072336-00072744 after that text I tried calling texting AvO45dTVHBu-00247-00072745-00073126 and I can never get older AvO45dTVHBu-00248-00073127-00073835 I never heard from her again AvO45dTVHBu-00249-00073836-00074044 but Hannah's phone records indicated AvO45dTVHBu-00250-00074045-00074279 that someone had communicated with her AvO45dTVHBu-00251-00074280-00074632 that afternoon AvO45dTVHBu-00252-00074633-00074879 the last person AvO45dTVHBu-00253-00074880-00075137 she appeared to have spoken with the AvO45dTVHBu-00254-00075138-00075329 last person that Hannah spoke with on AvO45dTVHBu-00255-00075330-00075593 her cell phone was a friend of hers AvO45dTVHBu-00256-00075594-00075863 there were several short phone calls on AvO45dTVHBu-00257-00075864-00076199 the 19th around two o'clock to 2 30. AvO45dTVHBu-00258-00076200-00076532 those were the last calls on her phone AvO45dTVHBu-00259-00076533-00076715 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00260-00076716-00077009 police AvO45dTVHBu-00261-00077010-00077243 and the bizarre story she told them AvO45dTVHBu-00262-00077244-00077465 about her interactions with Hannah that AvO45dTVHBu-00263-00077466-00077788 afternoon sent the investigation in an AvO45dTVHBu-00264-00077789-00078706 entirely New Direction AvO45dTVHBu-00265-00078707-00079053 foreign AvO45dTVHBu-00266-00079054-00079379 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00267-00079380-00079631 police searching for Hannah zaner hoped AvO45dTVHBu-00268-00079632-00079894 that her final phone call AvO45dTVHBu-00269-00079895-00080117 the last person she spoke with would AvO45dTVHBu-00270-00080118-00080375 have been Rebecca Rebecca lived up in AvO45dTVHBu-00271-00080376-00080632 the Northwest part of our County AvO45dTVHBu-00272-00080633-00080938 was Rebecca's relationship to Hannah who AvO45dTVHBu-00273-00080939-00081173 was she Rebecca and Hannah knew each AvO45dTVHBu-00274-00081174-00081406 other from high school they had recently AvO45dTVHBu-00275-00081407-00081581 reconnected and they were going to hang AvO45dTVHBu-00276-00081582-00082288 out AvO45dTVHBu-00277-00082289-00082565 that Rebecca might be able to shed light AvO45dTVHBu-00278-00082566-00082799 on what happened to Hannah after their AvO45dTVHBu-00279-00082800-00083081 reunion AvO45dTVHBu-00280-00083082-00083381 were you able to track down Rebecca yes AvO45dTVHBu-00281-00083382-00083597 we had detectives go out to that address AvO45dTVHBu-00282-00083598-00083825 and they ultimately made contact with AvO45dTVHBu-00283-00083826-00083999 Rebecca AvO45dTVHBu-00284-00084000-00084293 arrived at Rebecca's home AvO45dTVHBu-00285-00084294-00084694 he expected a routine conversation it AvO45dTVHBu-00286-00084695-00085103 turned out to be anything but AvO45dTVHBu-00287-00085104-00085282 she provided us AvO45dTVHBu-00288-00085283-00085612 quite a story AvO45dTVHBu-00289-00085613-00086099 what did the two of them plan that day AvO45dTVHBu-00290-00086100-00086417 the plans were to meet up and then they AvO45dTVHBu-00291-00086418-00087443 were going to run some errands AvO45dTVHBu-00292-00087444-00088144 something unusual AvO45dTVHBu-00293-00088145-00088523 a cough silver car parked there with the AvO45dTVHBu-00294-00088524-00088811 doors open AvO45dTVHBu-00295-00088812-00088985 she didn't see anybody standing around AvO45dTVHBu-00296-00088986-00089543 it AvO45dTVHBu-00297-00089544-00089723 could told us a silver vehicle was AvO45dTVHBu-00298-00089724-00089909 parked somewhere in this area as she AvO45dTVHBu-00299-00089910-00090203 approached from the house AvO45dTVHBu-00300-00090204-00090431 a male subject stood up from behind the AvO45dTVHBu-00301-00090432-00090623 vehicle and yelled at her AvO45dTVHBu-00302-00090624-00090893 she noticed a white male jump up from AvO45dTVHBu-00303-00090894-00091211 the opposite side and tell her stop AvO45dTVHBu-00304-00091212-00091771 we're having sex AvO45dTVHBu-00305-00091772-00092194 Rebecca was startled and embarrassed AvO45dTVHBu-00306-00092195-00092471 did he threaten her in any way get her AvO45dTVHBu-00307-00092472-00092771 to reverse course AvO45dTVHBu-00308-00092772-00093011 other than seeing the man who told her AvO45dTVHBu-00309-00093012-00093341 to turn back did she see anybody else no AvO45dTVHBu-00310-00093342-00093538 she didn't see anybody else in the car AvO45dTVHBu-00311-00093539-00093773 or around the car AvO45dTVHBu-00312-00093774-00093994 so once she turned around it headed back AvO45dTVHBu-00313-00093995-00094253 to her house what did she do she went AvO45dTVHBu-00314-00094254-00094462 back and then shortly after that she got AvO45dTVHBu-00315-00094463-00094726 a text message from Hannah telling her AvO45dTVHBu-00316-00094727-00095212 forget it AvO45dTVHBu-00317-00095213-00095537 at the time Rebecca didn't connect the AvO45dTVHBu-00318-00095538-00095818 text canceling plans with Hannah to the AvO45dTVHBu-00319-00095819-00096053 man outside her house AvO45dTVHBu-00320-00096054-00096335 did she do anything after that no she AvO45dTVHBu-00321-00096336-00096485 said that she just kind of went about AvO45dTVHBu-00322-00096486-00096905 her day she just blew AvO45dTVHBu-00323-00096906-00097294 for investigators the odd story and the AvO45dTVHBu-00324-00097295-00097600 breaking of plans seemed linked and AvO45dTVHBu-00325-00097601-00097906 their suspicions only deepen when AvO45dTVHBu-00326-00097907-00098123 Rebecca explained that she hadn't seen AvO45dTVHBu-00327-00098124-00098465 Hannah in years and had no idea what AvO45dTVHBu-00328-00098466-00098693 kind of car she drove AvO45dTVHBu-00329-00098694-00098987 when Rebecca described the car to you AvO45dTVHBu-00330-00098988-00099238 and the color of the car did it raise AvO45dTVHBu-00331-00099239-00099461 any red flags for you yes the AvO45dTVHBu-00332-00099462-00099671 description of the car was very much AvO45dTVHBu-00333-00099672-00100012 like the car that Hannah drove AvO45dTVHBu-00334-00100013-00100343 which was a Toyota Camry and the collar AvO45dTVHBu-00335-00100344-00100505 was the same color AvO45dTVHBu-00336-00100506-00100691 silver AvO45dTVHBu-00337-00100692-00100931 So based on could have been Hannah's car AvO45dTVHBu-00338-00100932-00101030 there AvO45dTVHBu-00339-00101031-00101568 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00340-00101569-00101885 Rebecca agreed to join investigators at AvO45dTVHBu-00341-00101886-00102131 the Gainesville Police Department AvO45dTVHBu-00342-00102132-00102394 to answer more questions about her AvO45dTVHBu-00343-00102395-00102551 strange encounter AvO45dTVHBu-00344-00102552-00102778 I thought the car was like abandoned or AvO45dTVHBu-00345-00102779-00102940 something it looks good because the door AvO45dTVHBu-00346-00102941-00103127 was open the other two door was open I AvO45dTVHBu-00347-00103128-00103378 didn't see nobody if I was close enough AvO45dTVHBu-00348-00103379-00103727 to see that there was no one in the car AvO45dTVHBu-00349-00103728-00104021 police asked Rebecca to focus on the man AvO45dTVHBu-00350-00104022-00104201 she had seen AvO45dTVHBu-00351-00104202-00104440 he just popped up AvO45dTVHBu-00352-00104441-00104897 off the ground I guess AvO45dTVHBu-00353-00104898-00105425 you need to get out and look at you AvO45dTVHBu-00354-00105426-00105766 was Rebecca able to describe the man yes AvO45dTVHBu-00355-00105767-00105995 she said it was a white male average AvO45dTVHBu-00356-00105996-00106415 build with dark hair and a dark beard AvO45dTVHBu-00357-00106416-00107023 foreign AvO45dTVHBu-00358-00107024-00107386 car pull away but noticed it was gone AvO45dTVHBu-00359-00107388-00107645 when she looked outside a few minutes AvO45dTVHBu-00360-00107646-00107777 later AvO45dTVHBu-00361-00107778-00108071 as the interview progressed Rebecca AvO45dTVHBu-00362-00108072-00108365 seemed to realize what she witnessed was AvO45dTVHBu-00363-00108366-00108869 far more Sinister than she imagined AvO45dTVHBu-00364-00108870-00109121 the gravity of the situation started to AvO45dTVHBu-00365-00109122-00109360 weigh on her she was AvO45dTVHBu-00366-00109361-00109678 investigators shared her concern AvO45dTVHBu-00367-00109679-00110051 now believe that Rebecca been face to AvO45dTVHBu-00368-00110052-00110339 face with the man responsible AvO45dTVHBu-00369-00110340-00110639 for Hannah's disappearance AvO45dTVHBu-00370-00110640-00110993 something was was wrong and as more the AvO45dTVHBu-00371-00110994-00111304 information came in it became more and AvO45dTVHBu-00372-00111305-00111364 more grim AvO45dTVHBu-00373-00111365-00112897 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00374-00112898-00113213 police in Gainesville Florida were AvO45dTVHBu-00375-00113214-00113615 quickly becoming convinced that the AvO45dTVHBu-00376-00113616-00113975 were there any signs that Hannah was AvO45dTVHBu-00377-00113976-00114408 still alive no we couldn't find anything AvO45dTVHBu-00378-00114409-00114760 everything ceased social media ceased AvO45dTVHBu-00379-00114761-00114977 the cell phone Communications the phone AvO45dTVHBu-00380-00114978-00115265 calls the text messages those also AvO45dTVHBu-00381-00115266-00115394 discontinued AvO45dTVHBu-00382-00115395-00115795 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00383-00115796-00116045 bizarre story from Hannah's friend AvO45dTVHBu-00384-00116046-00116765 Rebecca had deepened the mystery AvO45dTVHBu-00385-00116766-00116975 thought she was just gonna pick me up AvO45dTVHBu-00386-00116976-00117293 it was very weird but yeah I don't have AvO45dTVHBu-00387-00117294-00117577 much information for you guys AvO45dTVHBu-00388-00117578-00118078 another strange clue that was discovered AvO45dTVHBu-00389-00118079-00118366 the man whose wife's VIN number had been AvO45dTVHBu-00390-00118367-00118649 written on Hannah's makeup bag now said AvO45dTVHBu-00391-00118650-00119158 he had additional information AvO45dTVHBu-00392-00119159-00119351 whenever you want to meet up AvO45dTVHBu-00393-00119352-00119560 I'm located AvO45dTVHBu-00394-00119561-00119986 his name was Nelson armas and he now AvO45dTVHBu-00395-00119988-00120215 claimed to have spent time with Hannah AvO45dTVHBu-00396-00120216-00120581 on January 19th the day she had gone AvO45dTVHBu-00397-00120582-00120725 missing AvO45dTVHBu-00398-00120726-00121223 police were intrigued AvO45dTVHBu-00399-00121224-00121547 he agreed to meet up with me and show me AvO45dTVHBu-00400-00121548-00121810 some of the areas that he and Hannah had AvO45dTVHBu-00401-00121811-00122110 been news and now realized his account AvO45dTVHBu-00402-00122111-00122314 might be vital AvO45dTVHBu-00403-00122315-00122501 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00404-00122502-00123119 I feel like this is true I already AvO45dTVHBu-00405-00123120-00123282 know I'd love to help you out AvO45dTVHBu-00406-00123283-00123719 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00407-00123720-00124013 detective Mullins was surprised when the AvO45dTVHBu-00408-00124014-00124283 married man suddenly began to discuss AvO45dTVHBu-00409-00124283-00124799 his secret romance with Hannah AvO45dTVHBu-00410-00124800-00125543 what's your relation AvO45dTVHBu-00411-00125544-00125819 ship be there AvO45dTVHBu-00412-00125820-00126101 he indicated that Han but he wasn't AvO45dTVHBu-00413-00126102-00126293 interested in that AvO45dTVHBu-00414-00126294-00126719 I've never really intended to AvO45dTVHBu-00415-00126720-00126886 relationship with it I was just using AvO45dTVHBu-00416-00126888-00127475 her as a crutch AvO45dTVHBu-00417-00127476-00127727 although those details seemed important AvO45dTVHBu-00418-00127728-00128008 police were more interested in Nelson's AvO45dTVHBu-00419-00128009-00128375 timeline on the day Hannah disappeared AvO45dTVHBu-00420-00128376-00128651 Nelson claimed that he left her hotel AvO45dTVHBu-00421-00128652-00129016 room at 1 30 in the afternoon on January AvO45dTVHBu-00422-00129017-00129314 19th after an argument AvO45dTVHBu-00423-00129315-00129454 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00424-00129455-00129731 he said that he walked away from the AvO45dTVHBu-00425-00129732-00130036 hotel on foot so he claimed when he left AvO45dTVHBu-00426-00130038-00130216 the hotel room that afternoon that was AvO45dTVHBu-00427-00130217-00130451 with him and that she was pleading with AvO45dTVHBu-00428-00130452-00130666 him he said eventually he got back in AvO45dTVHBu-00429-00130667-00130901 the car with her and that they started AvO45dTVHBu-00430-00130902-00131135 to drive out of Gainesville on Highway AvO45dTVHBu-00431-00131136-00131561 441. AvO45dTVHBu-00432-00131562-00131873 told investigators that Hannah refused AvO45dTVHBu-00433-00131874-00132378 to accept that the relationship was over AvO45dTVHBu-00434-00132379-00132773 at some point during their trip he said AvO45dTVHBu-00435-00132774-00133139 that she slapped him in the face AvO45dTVHBu-00436-00133140-00133343 when I asked him what he did at that AvO45dTVHBu-00437-00133344-00133439 point AvO45dTVHBu-00438-00133440-00133721 he said that he put his hands on his lap AvO45dTVHBu-00439-00133722-00134339 and tried to remain as calm as possible AvO45dTVHBu-00440-00134340-00134639 asked Hannah and that he got out of the AvO45dTVHBu-00441-00134640-00134933 car and walked back toward Gainesville AvO45dTVHBu-00442-00134934-00135881 he said Hannah drove off AvO45dTVHBu-00443-00135882-00136085 word AvO45dTVHBu-00444-00136086-00136289 did you believe what he had to say yeah AvO45dTVHBu-00445-00136290-00136475 initially with the information that we AvO45dTVHBu-00446-00136476-00136733 had just seemed like he was trying to be AvO45dTVHBu-00447-00136734-00136901 helpful AvO45dTVHBu-00448-00136902-00137063 still he AvO45dTVHBu-00449-00137064-00137369 Educators wanted to confirm the details AvO45dTVHBu-00450-00137370-00137552 of Nelson's account AvO45dTVHBu-00451-00137553-00137681 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00452-00137682-00137909 agreed to come to the station and let AvO45dTVHBu-00453-00137910-00138377 police analyze his cell phone data AvO45dTVHBu-00454-00138378-00138689 everything he said I could verify you AvO45dTVHBu-00455-00138690-00139193 never saw again no other contact AvO45dTVHBu-00456-00139194-00139493 police questioned Nelson about how he AvO45dTVHBu-00457-00139494-00139816 ultimately got home and his account was AvO45dTVHBu-00458-00139817-00140093 difficult to believe he claimed he AvO45dTVHBu-00459-00140094-00140345 hitchhiked back into Gainesville and AvO45dTVHBu-00460-00140346-00141431 then walked the last 13 miles AvO45dTVHBu-00461-00141432-00141797 police were skeptical AvO45dTVHBu-00462-00141798-00142163 even at a fast pace the 13-mile walk he AvO45dTVHBu-00463-00142164-00142390 described would have taken close to four AvO45dTVHBu-00464-00142391-00142733 hours but his phone records indicated he AvO45dTVHBu-00465-00142734-00142997 was back home we've been walking there AvO45dTVHBu-00466-00142998-00143207 wasn't enough time you're the last AvO45dTVHBu-00467-00143208-00143489 person to have contact with her and in a AvO45dTVHBu-00468-00143490-00143716 contact with hers she's matchy she's AvO45dTVHBu-00469-00143717-00143939 screaming that [__] do you understand no AvO45dTVHBu-00470-00143940-00144101 I understand from our point of view how AvO45dTVHBu-00471-00144102-00144485 it looks no I understand AvO45dTVHBu-00472-00144486-00144769 thank you AvO45dTVHBu-00473-00144770-00145085 in fact Nelson's cell phone data AvO45dTVHBu-00474-00145086-00145325 appeared to show he had been with Hannah AvO45dTVHBu-00475-00145326-00145811 until minutes before her phone went dead AvO45dTVHBu-00476-00145812-00146128 and within moments of that AvO45dTVHBu-00477-00146129-00146448 proof she disappears AvO45dTVHBu-00478-00146449-00146693 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00479-00146694-00146851 I got out the car AvO45dTVHBu-00480-00146852-00146964 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00481-00146965-00147281 with the fact that all of Hannah's cell AvO45dTVHBu-00482-00147282-00147545 phone activities stopped at about the AvO45dTVHBu-00483-00147546-00147707 same time AvO45dTVHBu-00484-00147708-00147943 what went through your mind I thought AvO45dTVHBu-00485-00147944-00148216 has he had something to do with her AvO45dTVHBu-00486-00148217-00148340 disappearance AvO45dTVHBu-00487-00148341-00148919 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00488-00148920-00149123 while Nelson was answering AvO45dTVHBu-00489-00149124-00149359 estrogens in one interrogation room AvO45dTVHBu-00490-00149360-00149627 Hannah's friend Rebecca had just AvO45dTVHBu-00491-00149628-00149854 finished her interview about the strange AvO45dTVHBu-00492-00149855-00150335 encounter outside her home AvO45dTVHBu-00493-00150336-00150557 as police walked her out of the station AvO45dTVHBu-00494-00150558-00150947 the investigation took another shocking AvO45dTVHBu-00495-00150948-00151078 turn AvO45dTVHBu-00496-00151079-00151271 describe to me what happened with and as AvO45dTVHBu-00497-00151272-00151523 she walked by AvO45dTVHBu-00498-00151524-00151847 she saw Nelson and confirmed that that AvO45dTVHBu-00499-00151848-00151943 was AvO45dTVHBu-00500-00151944-00152116 someone who looked very similar to the AvO45dTVHBu-00501-00152117-00152273 person she saw at the silver vehicle AvO45dTVHBu-00502-00152274-00152585 that day AvO45dTVHBu-00503-00152586-00152783 was it AvO45dTVHBu-00504-00152784-00153016 that Rebecca would be at the police AvO45dTVHBu-00505-00153017-00153154 station at the same time you were AvO45dTVHBu-00506-00153155-00153389 questioning armis no really just by AvO45dTVHBu-00507-00153390-00153869 chance AvO45dTVHBu-00508-00153870-00154228 took a closer look and became convinced AvO45dTVHBu-00509-00154229-00154589 that Nelson armas was the man who yelled AvO45dTVHBu-00510-00154590-00155039 at her outside her home AvO45dTVHBu-00511-00155040-00155297 what was your reaction when you heard AvO45dTVHBu-00512-00155298-00155543 her say that armas did a son to chill AvO45dTVHBu-00513-00155544-00155771 down your spine yeah I remember looking AvO45dTVHBu-00514-00155772-00156095 at my sergeant and thinking I think we AvO45dTVHBu-00515-00156096-00157344 may have the guy here AvO45dTVHBu-00516-00157345-00157633 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00517-00157634-00157954 Hannah zainer missing persons case was AvO45dTVHBu-00518-00157955-00158195 heating up AvO45dTVHBu-00519-00158196-00158476 Hannah's friend had just identified AvO45dTVHBu-00520-00158477-00158704 Nelson armas AvO45dTVHBu-00521-00158705-00159028 as the man who was outside her home the AvO45dTVHBu-00522-00159029-00159449 day Hannah disappeared AvO45dTVHBu-00523-00159450-00159888 what did you do next we can AvO45dTVHBu-00524-00159889-00160019 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00525-00160020-00160361 the girl describes a person AvO45dTVHBu-00526-00160362-00160583 that looks like you AvO45dTVHBu-00527-00160584-00160787 now she saw I understand what you're AvO45dTVHBu-00528-00160788-00161033 saying but I didn't do anything AvO45dTVHBu-00529-00161034-00161251 but without physical evidence AvO45dTVHBu-00530-00161252-00161513 investigators had little more than their AvO45dTVHBu-00531-00161514-00161771 suspicions ultimately there was no AvO45dTVHBu-00532-00161772-00161949 grounds for an arrest at that time AvO45dTVHBu-00533-00161950-00162475 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00534-00162476-00162766 detective Mullins believe that the key AvO45dTVHBu-00535-00162767-00163073 to moving the case forward might be an AvO45dTVHBu-00536-00163074-00163421 armis's own Facebook posts AvO45dTVHBu-00537-00163422-00163745 once you examined his social media AvO45dTVHBu-00538-00163746-00164047 activity to find where he had posted AvO45dTVHBu-00539-00164048-00164381 thinking a friend of his name Stacy for AvO45dTVHBu-00540-00164382-00164573 allowing him to spend the night on her AvO45dTVHBu-00541-00164574-00164866 couch that was who he was with AvO45dTVHBu-00542-00164867-00165616 the night that Hannah went missing AvO45dTVHBu-00543-00165617-00166001 police track down Stacy who said armas AvO45dTVHBu-00544-00166002-00166259 had seen nervous when he asked her for AvO45dTVHBu-00545-00166260-00166409 help that night AvO45dTVHBu-00546-00166410-00166673 he said that around nine o'clock at AvO45dTVHBu-00547-00166674-00166871 night she was at a Walmart in AvO45dTVHBu-00548-00166872-00167123 Gainesville and that harness met her AvO45dTVHBu-00549-00167124-00167566 there AvO45dTVHBu-00550-00167567-00167921 story intrigued investigators AvO45dTVHBu-00551-00167922-00168137 a pool Dory AvO45dTVHBu-00552-00168138-00168413 but you can clearly see Nelson armas AvO45dTVHBu-00553-00168414-00168581 entering the Walmart wearing a gray AvO45dTVHBu-00554-00168582-00168773 shirt black jeans and some black AvO45dTVHBu-00555-00168774-00169060 Converse shoes AvO45dTVHBu-00556-00169061-00169271 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00557-00169272-00169595 video that changed the course of the AvO45dTVHBu-00558-00169596-00169828 investigation we were curious to know AvO45dTVHBu-00559-00169829-00170104 how Nelson got to the Walmart and we AvO45dTVHBu-00560-00170105-00170531 were able to see Nelson arriving in a AvO45dTVHBu-00561-00170532-00170813 small silver four-door car that fit the AvO45dTVHBu-00562-00170814-00171190 description of Hannah's car AvO45dTVHBu-00563-00171191-00171389 was there AvO45dTVHBu-00564-00171390-00171635 you're mine you were looking at Hannah's AvO45dTVHBu-00565-00171636-00172199 car no all the pieces just seemed to fit AvO45dTVHBu-00566-00172200-00172475 I think Nelson armas had told him had AvO45dTVHBu-00567-00172476-00172726 been a lie AvO45dTVHBu-00568-00172727-00173069 and the Walmart video revealed another AvO45dTVHBu-00569-00173070-00173314 critical clue AvO45dTVHBu-00570-00173315-00173525 the car remains in the parking lot for AvO45dTVHBu-00571-00173526-00173807 four days at that time Nelson returns to AvO45dTVHBu-00572-00173808-00174413 Walmart goes back to the silver bar AvO45dTVHBu-00573-00174414-00174676 it's noticed armas had been dropped off AvO45dTVHBu-00574-00174677-00175049 by a man driving a very distinctive El AvO45dTVHBu-00575-00175050-00175187 Camino AvO45dTVHBu-00576-00175188-00175487 I was able to figure out who the El AvO45dTVHBu-00577-00175488-00175949 Camino was registered to AvO45dTVHBu-00578-00175950-00176423 we made contact with that individual AvO45dTVHBu-00579-00176424-00176807 Toyota AvO45dTVHBu-00580-00176808-00176999 giving it to the owner of a tow yard AvO45dTVHBu-00581-00177000-00177364 with very specific instructions AvO45dTVHBu-00582-00177365-00177563 when you're done taking what you want AvO45dTVHBu-00583-00177564-00178220 off the car I need you to crush the car AvO45dTVHBu-00584-00178221-00178345 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00585-00178346-00178631 investigators race to the tow yard and AvO45dTVHBu-00586-00178632-00178925 caught a huge break AvO45dTVHBu-00587-00178926-00179116 still had the car AvO45dTVHBu-00588-00179117-00179513 and was willing to turn it over to us AvO45dTVHBu-00589-00179514-00179771 police quickly confirmed the silver AvO45dTVHBu-00590-00179772-00180055 Toyota belonged to Hannah zaner AvO45dTVHBu-00591-00180056-00180449 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00592-00180450-00180719 forensic experts processed on the left AvO45dTVHBu-00593-00180720-00181090 side of the trunk AvO45dTVHBu-00594-00181091-00181288 somebody had been in the trunk of that AvO45dTVHBu-00595-00181289-00181685 car AvO45dTVHBu-00596-00181686-00182249 blood AvO45dTVHBu-00597-00182250-00182495 whose blood was it unfortunately it was AvO45dTVHBu-00598-00182496-00183245 Hannah's blood AvO45dTVHBu-00599-00183246-00183521 it's left police convinced that Hannah AvO45dTVHBu-00600-00183522-00183845 was never coming home AvO45dTVHBu-00601-00183846-00184109 detective Mullins broke the tragic news AvO45dTVHBu-00602-00184110-00184390 to her parents AvO45dTVHBu-00603-00184391-00184649 he said they found a tremendous amount AvO45dTVHBu-00604-00184650-00184985 of blood in the tree AvO45dTVHBu-00605-00184986-00185356 she was murdered AvO45dTVHBu-00606-00185357-00185543 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00607-00185544-00185837 and investigators now had little doubt AvO45dTVHBu-00608-00185838-00186131 about who was responsible AvO45dTVHBu-00609-00186132-00186587 Nelson armas was involved in Han's death AvO45dTVHBu-00610-00186588-00186838 armed with a search Warren Police AvO45dTVHBu-00611-00186839-00187199 descended on Nelson armis's home and AvO45dTVHBu-00612-00187200-00187469 they found critical evidence in burn AvO45dTVHBu-00613-00187470-00187673 piles on the property AvO45dTVHBu-00614-00187674-00187961 we found in one of the burn pits some AvO45dTVHBu-00615-00187962-00188273 remnants of what looked like a jacket we AvO45dTVHBu-00616-00188274-00188549 also found burnt pieces of floor mats AvO45dTVHBu-00617-00188550-00188873 from a car AvO45dTVHBu-00618-00188874-00189352 were you able to confirm AvO45dTVHBu-00619-00189353-00189611 who found the car our blood's inside the AvO45dTVHBu-00620-00189612-00189899 car and in the trunk AvO45dTVHBu-00621-00189900-00189978 s AvO45dTVHBu-00622-00189979-00190337 you guys left me with a charge AvO45dTVHBu-00623-00190338-00190571 what was his reaction AvO45dTVHBu-00624-00190572-00190878 when you gave him your detailed AvO45dTVHBu-00625-00190879-00191171 descriptions of what you had seen he AvO45dTVHBu-00626-00191172-00191471 began to get very nervous AvO45dTVHBu-00627-00191472-00191633 there is AvO45dTVHBu-00628-00191634-00191885 a burn pit at your house and there's AvO45dTVHBu-00629-00191886-00192154 items in that burn pile AvO45dTVHBu-00630-00192155-00192478 like what like floor mats you know how AvO45dTVHBu-00631-00192479-00192719 much garbage we have out of that house AvO45dTVHBu-00632-00192720-00193145 the problem is that those mats were in a AvO45dTVHBu-00633-00193146-00193385 Toyota Camry silver AvO45dTVHBu-00634-00193386-00193540 okay AvO45dTVHBu-00635-00193541-00193857 we need to find and AvO45dTVHBu-00636-00193858-00194245 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00637-00194246-00194566 investigators were ready to charge armas AvO45dTVHBu-00638-00194567-00194795 with Hannah's murder when they got AvO45dTVHBu-00639-00194796-00195137 another crucial tip you got a big break AvO45dTVHBu-00640-00195138-00195443 in the case when an informant called in AvO45dTVHBu-00641-00195444-00195713 what did he report AvO45dTVHBu-00642-00195714-00196031 harness had revealed to him that he had AvO45dTVHBu-00643-00196032-00196451 thrown a knife out of the car AvO45dTVHBu-00644-00196452-00196907 that informant told us that he knew the AvO45dTVHBu-00645-00196908-00197154 location of where this knife would be AvO45dTVHBu-00646-00197155-00197873 the inmate drew a map that led points AvO45dTVHBu-00647-00197874-00198143 armas was arrested and charged with AvO45dTVHBu-00648-00198144-00198311 Hannah's murder AvO45dTVHBu-00649-00198312-00198640 while behind bars he inadvertently AvO45dTVHBu-00650-00198641-00198947 provided police with the final piece of AvO45dTVHBu-00651-00198948-00199054 the puzzle AvO45dTVHBu-00652-00199055-00199331 the day after the indictment armis had AvO45dTVHBu-00653-00199332-00199666 broke down and told another person in AvO45dTVHBu-00654-00199667-00200140 the jail that he had murdered Hannah AvO45dTVHBu-00655-00200141-00200699 and he said each stab in the throat AvO45dTVHBu-00656-00200700-00201040 the informant said armas had killed AvO45dTVHBu-00657-00201041-00201161 Hannah AvO45dTVHBu-00658-00201162-00201443 keep their Affair a secret AvO45dTVHBu-00659-00201444-00201623 he said a girl when they got killed AvO45dTVHBu-00660-00201624-00201797 police now AvO45dTVHBu-00661-00201798-00202325 this is why he did it AvO45dTVHBu-00662-00202326-00202625 but even more important he said armas AvO45dTVHBu-00663-00202626-00202943 told him where he disposed of Hannah's AvO45dTVHBu-00664-00202944-00203225 Remains the inmate had very detailed AvO45dTVHBu-00665-00203226-00203725 description of this area AvO45dTVHBu-00666-00203726-00204095 more than 150 law enforcement agents AvO45dTVHBu-00667-00204096-00204383 began an extensive search for Hannah's AvO45dTVHBu-00668-00204384-00204461 body AvO45dTVHBu-00669-00204462-00204628 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00670-00204629-00204803 we've been searching this area for two AvO45dTVHBu-00671-00204804-00205031 days and hadn't found anything when a AvO45dTVHBu-00672-00205032-00205342 deputy standing on this bridge here AvO45dTVHBu-00673-00205344-00205475 notice something that caught his AvO45dTVHBu-00674-00205476-00205757 attention AvO45dTVHBu-00675-00205758-00205983 when I got to AvO45dTVHBu-00676-00205984-00206188 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00677-00206189-00206542 DNA testing confirmed it was Hannah's AvO45dTVHBu-00678-00206544-00206843 body AvO45dTVHBu-00679-00206844-00207238 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00680-00207239-00207532 the discovery was a Bittersweet moment AvO45dTVHBu-00681-00207533-00207742 for investigators AvO45dTVHBu-00682-00207744-00208079 Officer Byrd and I drove to where Mr AvO45dTVHBu-00683-00208080-00208277 zaner was working AvO45dTVHBu-00684-00208278-00208612 and I remember he saw us and he said AvO45dTVHBu-00685-00208613-00208798 did you find her AvO45dTVHBu-00686-00208800-00209038 yeah we found her and AvO45dTVHBu-00687-00209039-00209175 can bring her home now AvO45dTVHBu-00688-00209176-00209713 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00689-00209714-00209957 prosecutors believe they now had AvO45dTVHBu-00690-00209958-00210142 everything we were confident that we AvO45dTVHBu-00691-00210144-00210334 could prove to the jury that the AvO45dTVHBu-00692-00210335-00210592 defendant Nelson armis was the one who AvO45dTVHBu-00693-00210594-00211360 had committed that Merc AvO45dTVHBu-00694-00211361-00211708 the trial brought Hannah's father into AvO45dTVHBu-00695-00211709-00212123 the same room with the man accused of AvO45dTVHBu-00696-00212123-00212471 savagely killing his daughter AvO45dTVHBu-00697-00212471-00212729 Hannah was five months pregnant Hannah AvO45dTVHBu-00698-00212730-00213058 was five foot tall Hannah was 110 pounds AvO45dTVHBu-00699-00213059-00213503 Hannah was defenseless AvO45dTVHBu-00700-00213504-00213713 I'm looking at the guy who slaughtered AvO45dTVHBu-00701-00213714-00213923 not just murdered but slaughtered my AvO45dTVHBu-00702-00213923-00214139 daughter and my grandchild who AvO45dTVHBu-00703-00214140-00214463 dismembered her years AvO45dTVHBu-00704-00214464-00214894 and I can never ever forget that AvO45dTVHBu-00705-00214896-00215490 never AvO45dTVHBu-00706-00215491-00215639 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00707-00215640-00215796 foot five AvO45dTVHBu-00708-00215798-00216173 250 pounds Hannah's father found himself AvO45dTVHBu-00709-00216173-00216503 just steps from armas and angry enough AvO45dTVHBu-00710-00216504-00217060 to take justice into his own hands AvO45dTVHBu-00711-00217061-00217313 I know what I'm capable of doing all AvO45dTVHBu-00712-00217314-00217577 this is going through my mind AvO45dTVHBu-00713-00217578-00217846 and my wife was like AvO45dTVHBu-00714-00217848-00218387 no please no don't do this AvO45dTVHBu-00715-00218388-00218665 please AvO45dTVHBu-00716-00218666-00219082 after a two-week trial Nelson armas was AvO45dTVHBu-00717-00219083-00219358 found guilty and sentenced to life in AvO45dTVHBu-00718-00219359-00219535 prison AvO45dTVHBu-00719-00219536-00220103 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00720-00220104-00220379 for Hannah's family the verdict marked AvO45dTVHBu-00721-00220380-00220679 the end of one painful journey and the AvO45dTVHBu-00722-00220680-00220960 beginning of a new one that would last AvO45dTVHBu-00723-00220961-00221279 the rest of their lives AvO45dTVHBu-00724-00221280-00221663 somebody asked me one time Paula AvO45dTVHBu-00725-00221664-00222125 I'm surprised you haven't lost your mind AvO45dTVHBu-00726-00222126-00222341 I said you do AvO45dTVHBu-00727-00222342-00222527 you just put it back together however AvO45dTVHBu-00728-00222528-00222910 it'll fit and as fresh today as it was AvO45dTVHBu-00729-00222911-00223119 but it's still a wound AvO45dTVHBu-00730-00223121-00223979 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00731-00223980-00224296 body heal they focus on how Hannah lived AvO45dTVHBu-00732-00224298-00224513 and the choice she brought to their AvO45dTVHBu-00733-00224514-00224687 family AvO45dTVHBu-00734-00224688-00224915 when she was good AvO45dTVHBu-00735-00224916-00225448 she was she was so good Hannah loved us AvO45dTVHBu-00736-00225450-00225713 we talked to her every day AvO45dTVHBu-00737-00225714-00225953 to just let her know we love her and we AvO45dTVHBu-00738-00225954-00226017 miss her AvO45dTVHBu-00739-00226017-00226655 [Music] AvO45dTVHBu-00740-00226656-00226996 during his movie we are thankful for AvO45dTVHBu-00741-00226998-00227237 everyone who didn't give up on helping AvO45dTVHBu-00742-00227238-00227560 us find Hannah and we are thankful to AvO45dTVHBu-00743-00227561-00227855 the people of Alachua County for serving AvO45dTVHBu-00744-00227856-00228005 Justice AvO45dTVHBu-00745-00228006-00228317 I'm Paula Zahn please join us next time AvO45dTVHBu-00746-00228317-00228757 when we're back on the case Ay6i4BCOAPI-00000-00000391-00000655 hello welcome to this explanation video Ay6i4BCOAPI-00001-00000656-00000878 regarding the integration of i'm telling Ay6i4BCOAPI-00002-00000880-00001015 you with uh Ay6i4BCOAPI-00003-00001016-00001366 alexia skull information system alexa is Ay6i4BCOAPI-00004-00001367-00001478 one of the most Ay6i4BCOAPI-00005-00001479-00001679 commonly used information school Ay6i4BCOAPI-00006-00001680-00001807 information system Ay6i4BCOAPI-00007-00001807-00002110 in spain but of course we can deploy and Ay6i4BCOAPI-00008-00002111-00002463 implement the integration with your own Ay6i4BCOAPI-00009-00002464-00002726 esco information system for your school Ay6i4BCOAPI-00010-00002727-00002791 this is Ay6i4BCOAPI-00011-00002792-00003095 as an example and to show you how easy Ay6i4BCOAPI-00012-00003096-00003383 smooth and fast it works the iteration Ay6i4BCOAPI-00013-00003384-00003415 of Ay6i4BCOAPI-00014-00003415-00003663 amity lazarus with any other third Ay6i4BCOAPI-00015-00003664-00003743 parties Ay6i4BCOAPI-00016-00003744-00004038 to make it easier and simpler for for Ay6i4BCOAPI-00017-00004039-00004135 your Ay6i4BCOAPI-00018-00004136-00004447 purpose so we go to our alexia Ay6i4BCOAPI-00019-00004448-00004647 and within a school information system Ay6i4BCOAPI-00020-00004648-00004783 that's erp Ay6i4BCOAPI-00021-00004784-00005151 set up within admin we have uh the first Ay6i4BCOAPI-00022-00005152-00005327 thing that we're going to see is this Ay6i4BCOAPI-00023-00005328-00005502 set of codes Ay6i4BCOAPI-00024-00005503-00005775 and the id said that we have to be Ay6i4BCOAPI-00025-00005776-00005879 provided Ay6i4BCOAPI-00026-00005880-00006215 by our alexia uh contact person Ay6i4BCOAPI-00027-00006216-00006559 to insert it in here uh keep the the Ay6i4BCOAPI-00028-00006559-00006598 link Ay6i4BCOAPI-00029-00006600-00006831 active in order to establish the link Ay6i4BCOAPI-00030-00006831-00006942 the bridge Ay6i4BCOAPI-00031-00006943-00007310 to to to the alexia the data Ay6i4BCOAPI-00032-00007311-00007559 base in order to import all of them Ay6i4BCOAPI-00033-00007559-00007727 successfully and properly Ay6i4BCOAPI-00034-00007728-00008031 we will click in here to let's say to Ay6i4BCOAPI-00035-00008031-00008351 to establish this link Ay6i4BCOAPI-00036-00008352-00008646 in here we are going to be able to Ay6i4BCOAPI-00037-00008647-00008727 establish Ay6i4BCOAPI-00038-00008728-00008974 later on the relation between devices Ay6i4BCOAPI-00039-00008975-00009142 and groups supervisors and groups and Ay6i4BCOAPI-00040-00009143-00009351 supervisors and devices Ay6i4BCOAPI-00041-00009352-00009719 unless we have it this the unclick that Ay6i4BCOAPI-00042-00009720-00009887 means unless we have the automatic Ay6i4BCOAPI-00043-00009888-00010031 synchronization on Ay6i4BCOAPI-00044-00010032-00010287 it will occur every approximately 15 Ay6i4BCOAPI-00045-00010288-00010342 minutes Ay6i4BCOAPI-00046-00010343-00010606 we will have to force the these Ay6i4BCOAPI-00047-00010607-00010742 relations Ay6i4BCOAPI-00048-00010743-00011023 with this orange buttons in here in Ay6i4BCOAPI-00049-00011024-00011151 order to force Ay6i4BCOAPI-00050-00011152-00011367 once that we have imported all the Ay6i4BCOAPI-00051-00011368-00011623 devices groups and supervisors Ay6i4BCOAPI-00052-00011624-00011870 to do so first we are going to go we are Ay6i4BCOAPI-00053-00011871-00011935 going to Ay6i4BCOAPI-00054-00011936-00012191 to do the import of the devices we will Ay6i4BCOAPI-00055-00012192-00012246 choose Ay6i4BCOAPI-00056-00012247-00012495 the entity the name of our school the Ay6i4BCOAPI-00057-00012496-00012614 configuration Ay6i4BCOAPI-00058-00012615-00012846 that means the configuration of the Ay6i4BCOAPI-00059-00012847-00013007 devices the chosen one Ay6i4BCOAPI-00060-00013008-00013286 it's important to remind that within the Ay6i4BCOAPI-00061-00013287-00013407 configuration Ay6i4BCOAPI-00062-00013408-00013735 we have to establish three uh Ay6i4BCOAPI-00063-00013736-00014022 main aspects first of all is going to be Ay6i4BCOAPI-00064-00014023-00014135 the school Ay6i4BCOAPI-00065-00014136-00014463 uh schedule and calendar Ay6i4BCOAPI-00066-00014463-00014791 then the filter the browsing filter by Ay6i4BCOAPI-00067-00014791-00014886 default Ay6i4BCOAPI-00068-00014887-00015207 and the youtube filter by default that Ay6i4BCOAPI-00069-00015208-00015279 will Ay6i4BCOAPI-00070-00015280-00015575 establish the main three pillars of the Ay6i4BCOAPI-00071-00015576-00015711 configuration Ay6i4BCOAPI-00072-00015712-00016079 to keep establishing the next uh setups Ay6i4BCOAPI-00073-00016080-00016150 as we are Ay6i4BCOAPI-00074-00016151-00016415 doing now then we will have to choose Ay6i4BCOAPI-00075-00016416-00016455 which Ay6i4BCOAPI-00076-00016456-00016686 type of technology we are using in case Ay6i4BCOAPI-00077-00016687-00016886 we have a different technologies of Ay6i4BCOAPI-00078-00016887-00016975 devices Ay6i4BCOAPI-00079-00016976-00017286 we will do it for each one of them Ay6i4BCOAPI-00080-00017287-00017479 then we will have here once of course Ay6i4BCOAPI-00081-00017480-00017694 and we have we apply Ay6i4BCOAPI-00082-00017695-00017958 the changes so we send the order all the Ay6i4BCOAPI-00083-00017959-00018167 devices will appear on our screen and we Ay6i4BCOAPI-00084-00018168-00018247 may choose Ay6i4BCOAPI-00085-00018248-00018550 all of them by click by selecting all Ay6i4BCOAPI-00086-00018551-00018894 at once or click which devices we want Ay6i4BCOAPI-00087-00018895-00018935 to Ay6i4BCOAPI-00088-00018936-00019255 import by clicking on on them of course Ay6i4BCOAPI-00089-00019256-00019486 the same applies for the groups then we Ay6i4BCOAPI-00090-00019487-00019591 will choose the Ay6i4BCOAPI-00091-00019592-00019894 the our entity our school name Ay6i4BCOAPI-00092-00019895-00020086 and we will choose for instance first Ay6i4BCOAPI-00093-00020087-00020271 grade first grade Ay6i4BCOAPI-00094-00020272-00020583 of baccalaureate first grade Ay6i4BCOAPI-00095-00020584-00021030 and we will import the data down here Ay6i4BCOAPI-00096-00021031-00021247 once that we send the order for this Ay6i4BCOAPI-00097-00021248-00021335 three for this Ay6i4BCOAPI-00098-00021336-00021567 first grade of baccalaureat for instance Ay6i4BCOAPI-00099-00021568-00021719 all the groups will Ay6i4BCOAPI-00100-00021720-00022022 also be jumped onto our screen and we Ay6i4BCOAPI-00101-00022023-00022119 may import them Ay6i4BCOAPI-00102-00022120-00022430 all at once or each by one each one of Ay6i4BCOAPI-00103-00022431-00022527 our classes Ay6i4BCOAPI-00104-00022528-00022855 one by one as needed or desired Ay6i4BCOAPI-00105-00022856-00023199 and last but not least we will also Ay6i4BCOAPI-00106-00023200-00023463 have to do the import of the supervisors Ay6i4BCOAPI-00107-00023464-00023535 the ones Ay6i4BCOAPI-00108-00023536-00023799 assigned to the school that means the Ay6i4BCOAPI-00109-00023800-00023935 teachers basically Ay6i4BCOAPI-00110-00023936-00024230 in which we will uh we will choose the Ay6i4BCOAPI-00111-00024231-00024350 supervisor roles Ay6i4BCOAPI-00112-00024351-00024622 in this case for instance ca12 the Ay6i4BCOAPI-00113-00024623-00024719 language Ay6i4BCOAPI-00114-00024720-00024975 and the entity then the name of our Ay6i4BCOAPI-00115-00024976-00025094 school we will Ay6i4BCOAPI-00116-00025095-00025375 launch the order and all the supervisors Ay6i4BCOAPI-00117-00025376-00025399 will Ay6i4BCOAPI-00118-00025400-00025718 be shoot on our screen in which us Ay6i4BCOAPI-00119-00025719-00025967 before we could be able to import all of Ay6i4BCOAPI-00120-00025968-00026102 them at once or click Ay6i4BCOAPI-00121-00026104-00026495 one of each one of them as desired or Ay6i4BCOAPI-00122-00026495-00026718 needed and the same applies for the Ay6i4BCOAPI-00123-00026719-00026807 families we will Ay6i4BCOAPI-00124-00026808-00027087 choose the royal family k-12 in this Ay6i4BCOAPI-00125-00027088-00027318 case say the name of our entity Ay6i4BCOAPI-00126-00027319-00027583 and all the families supervising their Ay6i4BCOAPI-00127-00027583-00027790 children outside of the school Ay6i4BCOAPI-00128-00027791-00028118 uh scheduling calendar will be jumped Ay6i4BCOAPI-00129-00028119-00028383 will be shoot on our screen and we could Ay6i4BCOAPI-00130-00028383-00028527 as always Ay6i4BCOAPI-00131-00028527-00028814 select all of them at once or one by one Ay6i4BCOAPI-00132-00028816-00028943 as needed or Ay6i4BCOAPI-00133-00028944-00029367 desired and also do not forget Ay6i4BCOAPI-00134-00029368-00029687 finally to either force or Ay6i4BCOAPI-00135-00029688-00029935 put an automatic synchronization that Ay6i4BCOAPI-00136-00029936-00030095 they will make the relations between Ay6i4BCOAPI-00137-00030095-00030255 devices and groups supervisors from Ay6i4BCOAPI-00138-00030256-00030467 groups and supervisors and Ay6i4BCOAPI-00139-00030468-00030767 devices so this is Ay6i4BCOAPI-00140-00030768-00031055 all for today thanks for joining us and Ay6i4BCOAPI-00141-00031056-00031199 follow us on our social Ay6i4BCOAPI-00142-00031200-00031518 and professional networks thanks and see Ay6i4BCOAPI-00143-00031519-00031888 you soon ACDbbcdR0c4-00000-00000481-00002501 [Music] ACDbbcdR0c4-00001-00002502-00002754 I'm gonna go in the back of this bike ACDbbcdR0c4-00002-00002755-00002937 and go to hospital cave that's gonna be ACDbbcdR0c4-00003-00002938-00003084 coming up in this in the next vlog so ACDbbcdR0c4-00004-00003085-00005136 stay tuned for that actual security one ACDbbcdR0c4-00005-00005137-00005328 security room and two people suffering ACDbbcdR0c4-00006-00005329-00006334 inside this is like an icky ACDbbcdR0c4-00007-00006335-00008034 [Music] ACDbbcdR0c4-00008-00008036-00008893 oh wow - like sometimes more than 200 ACDbbcdR0c4-00009-00008894-00009563 people ACDbbcdR0c4-00010-00009564-00011549 [Music] ACDbbcdR0c4-00011-00011550-00012426 [Music] ACDbbcdR0c4-00012-00012427-00012947 toy x-rays driving a scooter ACDbbcdR0c4-00013-00012949-00013330 okay [__] a motorcycle my very very ACDbbcdR0c4-00014-00013331-00013951 first time so pretty easy using the ACDbbcdR0c4-00015-00013952-00014088 correct grammar road ACDbbcdR0c4-00016-00014090-00014341 what else can't ask a lot from these ACDbbcdR0c4-00017-00014341-00014440 Americans it's good when they get ACDbbcdR0c4-00018-00014441-00014638 grammar right you understand when you ACDbbcdR0c4-00019-00014638-00014854 say ever all right so I'm just gonna ACDbbcdR0c4-00020-00014855-00015025 start it and go he told me kind of how ACDbbcdR0c4-00021-00015026-00015676 to do it so ACDbbcdR0c4-00022-00015677-00015813 is the kickstand up yeah ACDbbcdR0c4-00023-00015813-00017961 [Music] ACDbbcdR0c4-00024-00017962-00018343 [Music] ACDbbcdR0c4-00025-00018344-00019198 Oh ACDbbcdR0c4-00026-00019199-00019830 [Applause] ACDbbcdR0c4-00027-00019831-00020509 all your ACDbbcdR0c4-00028-00020510-00021550 [Applause] ACDbbcdR0c4-00029-00021551-00022017 [Music] ACDbbcdR0c4-00030-00022018-00022327 that just take all the gas that's why ACDbbcdR0c4-00031-00022328-00023442 it's thought ACDbbcdR0c4-00032-00023443-00023664 all right we're going to cave number two ACDbbcdR0c4-00034-00028017-00028257 okay so we're back from that adventure ACDbbcdR0c4-00035-00028258-00028631 those crazy like those caves insane ACDbbcdR0c4-00036-00028632-00028932 we're going to go you know I'm starving ACDbbcdR0c4-00037-00028933-00029175 all I had was mango and a protein shake ACDbbcdR0c4-00038-00029176-00029454 so let's see if we can find that fish I ACDbbcdR0c4-00039-00029455-00029883 got some again steamed up Islands and ACDbbcdR0c4-00040-00029883-00030651 I'm waiting on my papal juice pineapple ACDbbcdR0c4-00041-00030652-00031656 juice full tired you did a lot of cool ACDbbcdR0c4-00042-00031657-00033935 things today for the scooter prefer soon ACDbbcdR0c4-00043-00033936-00034177 good morning gonna try to eat breakfast ACDbbcdR0c4-00044-00034178-00034373 too and then we're leaving to catch the ACDbbcdR0c4-00045-00034374-00034673 bus to go to ACDbbcdR0c4-00046-00034674-00034889 [Music] ACDbbcdR0c4-00047-00034890-00035471 the islands Russian to catch the bus now ACDbbcdR0c4-00048-00035472-00035693 we have like five minutes to get there ACDbbcdR0c4-00049-00035694-00035915 just walking down here we just left that ACDbbcdR0c4-00050-00035916-00036173 location which it came out to be about ACDbbcdR0c4-00051-00036174-00036617 $47 for split between the two of us for ACDbbcdR0c4-00052-00036618-00036707 two nights ACDbbcdR0c4-00053-00036708-00036992 three days there which is not a bad deal ACDbbcdR0c4-00054-00036993-00037172 so maybe eleven to twelve dollars a ACDbbcdR0c4-00055-00037173-00037469 night for but I pay for staying there ACDbbcdR0c4-00056-00037470-00037655 which isn't bad for your whole bunk up ACDbbcdR0c4-00057-00037656-00037874 for a whole bungalow to go there when ACDbbcdR0c4-00058-00037875-00037985 it's not under construction because I ACDbbcdR0c4-00059-00037986-00038120 think of you really really beautiful ACDbbcdR0c4-00060-00038121-00038270 we're just going everywhere in low ACDbbcdR0c4-00061-00038271-00038543 season so all the places I go like are ACDbbcdR0c4-00062-00038544-00038726 all under construction we're gonna get ACDbbcdR0c4-00063-00038727-00038972 your bus which is student 30,000 dogs ACDbbcdR0c4-00064-00038973-00039246 which is a little bit more than a dollar ACDbbcdR0c4-00065-00039247-00040144 [Music] ACDbbcdR0c4-00066-00040145-00041345 wave it was make sure ACDbbcdR0c4-00067-00041346-00041708 all right so now we're at the museum cat ACDbbcdR0c4-00068-00041709-00042037 bar at the port and gonna transfer to ACDbbcdR0c4-00069-00042038-00042333 island which will be free this time ACDbbcdR0c4-00070-00042334-00042636 because we're staying at a place are ACDbbcdR0c4-00071-00042637-00044160 they have transport which is great ACDbbcdR0c4-00072-00044161-00044313 [Music] ACDbbcdR0c4-00073-00044314-00044889 why ACDbbcdR0c4-00074-00044890-00045122 but it's okay ACDbbcdR0c4-00075-00045123-00045354 [Music] ACDbbcdR0c4-00076-00045355-00045671 here's our bungalow our second fair ACDbbcdR0c4-00077-00045672-00046219 second buckle sits a little party to her ACDbbcdR0c4-00078-00046220-00046352 [Music] ACDbbcdR0c4-00079-00046353-00046548 still stand up in it though ACDbbcdR0c4-00080-00046549-00047374 oh is this the bathroom in here ACDbbcdR0c4-00081-00047375-00048767 do not give me a listen up in there ACDbbcdR0c4-00082-00048768-00049897 [Music] ACDbbcdR0c4-00083-00049898-00050229 today I wanted to do what I eat in a day ACDbbcdR0c4-00084-00050230-00050686 while traveling kind of vegetarian this ACDbbcdR0c4-00085-00050687-00051025 morning I had a free breakfast at a ACDbbcdR0c4-00086-00051026-00051255 place was staying in a national park was ACDbbcdR0c4-00087-00051257-00051546 basically like some fruit and a fried ACDbbcdR0c4-00088-00051547-00051771 egg this weird pancake thing which kind ACDbbcdR0c4-00089-00051772-00051910 of upset my stomach it's not usually ACDbbcdR0c4-00090-00051911-00052075 what I would eat but it was free and ACDbbcdR0c4-00091-00052076-00052303 it's what they had so so I don't know ACDbbcdR0c4-00092-00052304-00052384 what I'm going to eat today ACDbbcdR0c4-00093-00052385-00052660 actually because I'm on this resort but ACDbbcdR0c4-00094-00052661-00052755 there's one restaurant ACDbbcdR0c4-00095-00052757-00053020 so we'll see what they have I think ACDbbcdR0c4-00096-00053021-00053197 we're gonna go on a hike and then go see ACDbbcdR0c4-00097-00053198-00053452 some monkeys real quick and then after ACDbbcdR0c4-00098-00053453-00054134 that maybe have some lunch ACDbbcdR0c4-00099-00054135-00055694 it's cool ACDbbcdR0c4-00100-00055695-00055940 now I'm going to I'm kind of hungry but ACDbbcdR0c4-00101-00055941-00056080 we're gonna go explore a little more ACDbbcdR0c4-00102-00056082-00056303 first so I'm going to try and make a ACDbbcdR0c4-00103-00056304-00057556 protein shake on this and here it works ACDbbcdR0c4-00104-00057557-00058980 now I have a shaker that's a tough tough ACDbbcdR0c4-00105-00058982-00059508 they really didn't mean right ACDbbcdR0c4-00106-00059509-00059685 so we're going back over to the other ACDbbcdR0c4-00107-00059686-00060159 Island where the monkeys are okay so we ACDbbcdR0c4-00108-00060160-00060537 meet to the beach ACDbbcdR0c4-00109-00060538-00061373 be there ACDbbcdR0c4-00110-00061374-00062041 [Music] ACDbbcdR0c4-00111-00062042-00062829 so I'm just playing by itself over there ACDbbcdR0c4-00112-00062829-00063060 [Music] ACDbbcdR0c4-00113-00063061-00063251 they know he has food so they're waiting ACDbbcdR0c4-00114-00063252-00063654 for him to come home to attack ACDbbcdR0c4-00115-00063655-00064443 he's scared in the ocean let's see what ACDbbcdR0c4-00116-00064444-00064623 kind of vegetarian options they have ACDbbcdR0c4-00117-00064624-00064848 here so I got some pineapple juice with ACDbbcdR0c4-00118-00064849-00065804 no milk what did you get you got banana ACDbbcdR0c4-00119-00065805-00066330 so I got tomato tofu with rice it looks ACDbbcdR0c4-00120-00066331-00067518 so good ACDbbcdR0c4-00121-00067519-00067783 so I'm trying to upload my video to ACDbbcdR0c4-00122-00067784-00068164 YouTube you can hear this is fine in ACDbbcdR0c4-00123-00068165-00068524 this chord my computer keeps like my ACDbbcdR0c4-00124-00068525-00068719 computer doesn't stay charged so if it's ACDbbcdR0c4-00125-00068720-00069025 not plugged in it'll completely die I'm ACDbbcdR0c4-00126-00069026-00069139 trying to upload this video for a while ACDbbcdR0c4-00127-00069140-00069301 now to haven't had a good internet ACDbbcdR0c4-00128-00069302-00069571 everything's been so moist and just been ACDbbcdR0c4-00129-00069572-00069763 traveling around really hoping to get ACDbbcdR0c4-00130-00069764-00069853 this up by tonight ACDbbcdR0c4-00131-00069854-00070168 so drinking my protein shake and it made ACDbbcdR0c4-00132-00070169-00070336 earlier okay everything is like ACDbbcdR0c4-00133-00070337-00070725 overheating the internet so super sketch ACDbbcdR0c4-00134-00070726-00071145 [Applause] ACDbbcdR0c4-00135-00071146-00071724 I just got up I'm trying to rush to ACDbbcdR0c4-00136-00071725-00071880 breakfast right now cuz a free breakfast ACDbbcdR0c4-00137-00071881-00071988 I'm gonna show you what to eat for ACDbbcdR0c4-00138-00071989-00072234 breakfast here just for fun ACDbbcdR0c4-00139-00072235-00072482 but that's kind of what I eat in a day ACDbbcdR0c4-00140-00072483-00072747 here obviously it changes all the time ACDbbcdR0c4-00141-00072748-00072909 let's go see what they have for ACDbbcdR0c4-00142-00072910-00073182 breakfast here and I'm gonna put ACDbbcdR0c4-00143-00073183-00074017 yourself together ACDbbcdR0c4-00144-00074018-00075609 my gosh it scared me ACDbbcdR0c4-00145-00075610-00077068 by bungalow was fun there's a storm so ACDbbcdR0c4-00146-00077069-00077383 apparently I just lost 500 dogs just and ACDbbcdR0c4-00147-00077384-00077542 out of nowhere like I'm really good with ACDbbcdR0c4-00148-00077543-00077725 keeping track of things but just ACDbbcdR0c4-00149-00077726-00077932 disappeared like it's gone and I can't ACDbbcdR0c4-00150-00077933-00078061 find it anywhere I don't know how much ACDbbcdR0c4-00151-00078062-00078277 that equates to but it's a lot here for ACDbbcdR0c4-00152-00078278-00078516 me ACDbbcdR0c4-00153-00078517-00078862 and now it's raining okay so this place ACDbbcdR0c4-00154-00078863-00079198 cost $16 a night and I split that so it ACDbbcdR0c4-00155-00079199-00079393 was $8 for me for a night ACDbbcdR0c4-00156-00079394-00079687 generally my meal with like three ACDbbcdR0c4-00157-00079688-00080026 dollars or three or four dollars I don't ACDbbcdR0c4-00158-00080027-00080332 know but I'm really sad about missing ACDbbcdR0c4-00159-00080333-00080395 dogs ACDbbcdR0c4-00160-00080396-00080563 I'm just gonna have to skimp a little ACDbbcdR0c4-00161-00080564-00080737 bit more because I didn't want I don't ACDbbcdR0c4-00162-00080738-00080869 take any more money out while I'm here ACDbbcdR0c4-00163-00080870-00081049 because the ATM keeps charging me a fee ACDbbcdR0c4-00164-00081050-00081280 like five dollar fee plus international ACDbbcdR0c4-00165-00081281-00081625 fees so I don't have much left for ACDbbcdR0c4-00166-00081626-00081784 groceries they're easily so much for ACDbbcdR0c4-00167-00081785-00081898 watching this vlog that's what I eat in ACDbbcdR0c4-00168-00081899-00082063 a day that's the day in my life while ACDbbcdR0c4-00169-00082064-00082324 traveling I am now going back to halong ACDbbcdR0c4-00170-00082325-00082606 bay hopefully this rain stops and then ACDbbcdR0c4-00171-00082607-00082765 we're gonna stay there a few more days ACDbbcdR0c4-00172-00082766-00082912 never gonna go somewhere new ACDbbcdR0c4-00173-00082913-00083056 make sure it's true nothing very much ACDbbcdR0c4-00174-00083057-00083290 and I'll seem like kid ACDbbcdR0c4-00175-00083291-00083925 [Applause] ACDbbcdR0c4-00176-00083926-00084244 [Music] ADMgl5IxR5k-00000-00000090-00001422 songs ADMgl5IxR5k-00001-00001423-00001894 [Music] AEft1wAeLKU-00000-00000524-00000916 education to my mind is a universal AEft1wAeLKU-00001-00000917-00001037 language AEft1wAeLKU-00002-00001038-00001439 a language of empowerment and Hope AEft1wAeLKU-00003-00001440-00001895 with education all people can aspire to AEft1wAeLKU-00004-00001896-00002231 transform their own lives and their AEft1wAeLKU-00005-00002232-00002405 communities AEft1wAeLKU-00006-00002406-00002849 however there is no easy segue from AEft1wAeLKU-00007-00002850-00003173 education to transformation AEft1wAeLKU-00008-00003174-00003499 our world is marked by Deep societal AEft1wAeLKU-00009-00003500-00003833 economic political Rifts AEft1wAeLKU-00010-00003834-00004085 these disparities have serious AEft1wAeLKU-00011-00004086-00004438 repercussions on the world of learning AEft1wAeLKU-00012-00004439-00004793 the major challenges such as the digital AEft1wAeLKU-00013-00004794-00005117 divide or the education of young girls AEft1wAeLKU-00014-00005118-00005477 and women and the access to Quality AEft1wAeLKU-00015-00005478-00005806 educational resources prompt us to AEft1wAeLKU-00016-00005807-00006186 reflect urgently on how and to whom AEft1wAeLKU-00017-00006187-00006436 education is delivered AEft1wAeLKU-00018-00006437-00006851 to nurture Future Leaders capable to AEft1wAeLKU-00019-00006852-00007241 serve as change makers in the world AEft1wAeLKU-00020-00007242-00007648 we need to turn from an exclusive model AEft1wAeLKU-00021-00007650-00008003 of higher education for the few AEft1wAeLKU-00022-00008004-00008274 to an inclusive educational approach AEft1wAeLKU-00023-00008275-00008681 whose success is defined by the impact AEft1wAeLKU-00024-00008682-00009137 young leaders make on their communities AEft1wAeLKU-00025-00009138-00009569 this is the ultimate Benchmark for AEft1wAeLKU-00026-00009570-00009923 Quality education and Globe ethics is AEft1wAeLKU-00027-00009924-00010181 committed to it AEft1wAeLKU-00028-00010182-00010499 this is why ethics matters AEft1wAeLKU-00029-00010500-00010756 ethics provides the qualitative AEft1wAeLKU-00030-00010757-00011119 framework for an education as the AEft1wAeLKU-00031-00011120-00011471 purposeful preparation of the whole AEft1wAeLKU-00032-00011472-00011921 person driven by values oriented towards AEft1wAeLKU-00033-00011922-00012233 finding relevant solutions to Global AEft1wAeLKU-00034-00012234-00012445 challenges AEft1wAeLKU-00035-00012446-00012874 nurturing ethical leadership will be at AEft1wAeLKU-00036-00012875-00013116 the heart of globe ethics targets AEft1wAeLKU-00037-00013118-00013408 regarding this priority AEft1wAeLKU-00038-00013409-00013780 among these are 50 researchers and AEft1wAeLKU-00039-00013781-00014035 teachers working with globe ethics AEft1wAeLKU-00040-00014036-00014416 120 University members in the Consortium AEft1wAeLKU-00041-00014418-00014730 of Ethics in higher education AEft1wAeLKU-00042-00014731-00015197 150 new Publications and 500 trained AEft1wAeLKU-00043-00015197-00015430 administrative and teaching AEft1wAeLKU-00044-00015431-00015629 professionals AEft1wAeLKU-00045-00015630-00016025 we will engage 520 higher education AEft1wAeLKU-00046-00016026-00016253 institutions AEft1wAeLKU-00047-00016254-00016763 and 700 000 Online Library users AEft1wAeLKU-00048-00016764-00017219 last not least 1.5 million downloads of AEft1wAeLKU-00049-00017220-00017435 globe ethics Publications are our AEft1wAeLKU-00050-00017436-00017567 targets AEft1wAeLKU-00051-00017568-00018035 you see there is so much to do and so AEft1wAeLKU-00052-00018036-00018322 many promises for an education that AEft1wAeLKU-00053-00018323-00018700 empowers and offers hope AEft1wAeLKU-00054-00018701-00018943 let us all work together AEft1wAeLKU-00055-00018944-00019330 now is the time to build strong AEft1wAeLKU-00056-00019331-00019649 International alliances of knowledge AEft1wAeLKU-00057-00019650-00020039 co-creation and education for a more AEft1wAeLKU-00058-00020040-00020513 just inclusive and sustainable world AEft1wAeLKU-00059-00020514-00020789 Global Ethics is looking forward AEft1wAeLKU-00060-00020790-00021269 to making this Vision a reality are you AEft1wAeLKU-00061-00021270-00021557 ready to join us AEft1wAeLKU-00062-00021558-00021919 [Music] AGAmA1PQYXA-00000-00000851-00001352 Hey hey Bonnie he's not wearing his AGAmA1PQYXA-00001-00001353-00001691 costume again haha well you know him AGAmA1PQYXA-00002-00001692-00002023 yeah but well if I do eventually it's AGAmA1PQYXA-00003-00002025-00002414 just difficult he's been wearing well as AGAmA1PQYXA-00004-00002415-00002663 you can see he's nowhere around here so AGAmA1PQYXA-00005-00002664-00004504 why don't you go look elsewhere no AGAmA1PQYXA-00006-00004505-00004795 that's just Freddy no he's doing that AGAmA1PQYXA-00007-00004796-00004972 thing with the spear Freddy head again AGAmA1PQYXA-00008-00004973-00005143 you know messing with your facial AGAmA1PQYXA-00009-00005144-00005654 scanners why does he keep flashing that AGAmA1PQYXA-00010-00005655-00005888 wretched flashlight my face well AGAmA1PQYXA-00011-00005889-00006984 obviously you're scaring him scaring him AGAmA1PQYXA-00012-00006986-00007205 disguise AGAmA1PQYXA-00013-00007206-00007487 I don't really care if he's Freddy I'm AGAmA1PQYXA-00014-00007488-00007664 just trying to get my hands on his sweet AGAmA1PQYXA-00015-00007665-00008860 succulent double-a batteries you know AGAmA1PQYXA-00016-00008861-00009089 what where's Freddy there can't be two AGAmA1PQYXA-00017-00009090-00009509 Freddy's right Freddy you well now we've AGAmA1PQYXA-00018-00009510-00009817 got to phrase in the rope come on Barney AGAmA1PQYXA-00019-00009818-00010127 oh my gosh I will slap you wait what's AGAmA1PQYXA-00020-00010128-00010888 going on here pretty sure that's Freddy AGAmA1PQYXA-00021-00010889-00011506 Freddy AGAmA1PQYXA-00022-00011507-00012056 why are you going I don't get what's AGAmA1PQYXA-00023-00012057-00014041 confusing Bonnie listen always I'm ready AGAmA1PQYXA-00024-00014043-00014281 right Oh God AGAmA1PQYXA-00025-00014282-00015262 [Music] AGAmA1PQYXA-00026-00015263-00015599 [Applause] AKyT4xDvEWE-00000-00008847-00010463 i am not getting any chat messages AKyT4xDvEWE-00001-00010464-00010695 oh there they go finally AKyT4xDvEWE-00002-00010696-00010846 no it's sitting there is blank there AKyT4xDvEWE-00003-00010847-00011319 isn't anything AKyT4xDvEWE-00004-00011320-00011735 okay that's better AKyT4xDvEWE-00005-00011736-00011887 what was blank chris AKyT4xDvEWE-00006-00011888-00012095 i'm sorry i'm talking to myself when you AKyT4xDvEWE-00007-00012096-00012391 get over 60 you do that AKyT4xDvEWE-00008-00012392-00012719 that's good to know AKyT4xDvEWE-00009-00012720-00012910 this is a picture of your future you AKyT4xDvEWE-00010-00012911-00013143 know that right yep i'm looking forward AKyT4xDvEWE-00011-00013144-00013703 to it over 60 or under 10. AKyT4xDvEWE-00012-00013704-00013958 i already talked to myself so AKyT4xDvEWE-00013-00013959-00014407 you'll do it more AKyT4xDvEWE-00014-00014408-00014535 but then you'll forget that you're AKyT4xDvEWE-00015-00014536-00014886 talking to yourself that's the best part AKyT4xDvEWE-00016-00014887-00015063 and what you say to yourself makes no AKyT4xDvEWE-00017-00015063-00015238 sense AKyT4xDvEWE-00018-00015240-00016238 oh jeez we might be live AKyT4xDvEWE-00019-00016240-00016399 we don't want to betray our great AKyT4xDvEWE-00020-00016400-00017055 omnipotence over this environment AKyT4xDvEWE-00021-00017056-00017783 omniscience excuse me AKyT4xDvEWE-00022-00017784-00018039 hi back row how are you doing AKyT4xDvEWE-00023-00018040-00018686 are you all there we're here AKyT4xDvEWE-00024-00018687-00018950 are abnormally quiet today yeah well i AKyT4xDvEWE-00025-00018951-00019086 was a little worried AKyT4xDvEWE-00026-00019087-00019271 well we were we're trying to figure out AKyT4xDvEWE-00027-00019272-00019471 what to say about this marine snow on AKyT4xDvEWE-00028-00019472-00019663 the argus view AKyT4xDvEWE-00029-00019664-00019863 oh it's uh AKyT4xDvEWE-00030-00019864-00019983 we're going with a different camera AKyT4xDvEWE-00031-00019984-00020199 today just to mix things up a little bit AKyT4xDvEWE-00032-00020200-00020822 nice AKyT4xDvEWE-00033-00020823-00021047 so are we gonna uh get an image from AKyT4xDvEWE-00034-00021048-00021230 that camera or is it going to be pretty AKyT4xDvEWE-00035-00021231-00021455 yeah that's it that's the image AKyT4xDvEWE-00036-00021456-00021655 um no i mean there's nothing yeah you'll AKyT4xDvEWE-00037-00021656-00021758 see herc AKyT4xDvEWE-00038-00021759-00021886 we will okay AKyT4xDvEWE-00039-00021887-00021999 it'll look AKyT4xDvEWE-00040-00022000-00022214 it's going to look that quality though AKyT4xDvEWE-00041-00022215-00022391 it'll look like this AKyT4xDvEWE-00042-00022392-00022535 ah i got you AKyT4xDvEWE-00043-00022536-00022950 i now i understand okay yeah AKyT4xDvEWE-00044-00022951-00023319 yep AKyT4xDvEWE-00045-00023320-00023455 well we're gonna AKyT4xDvEWE-00046-00023456-00023703 we're gonna see who's out there um yes AKyT4xDvEWE-00047-00023704-00023967 so good afternoon everybody uh thank you AKyT4xDvEWE-00048-00023968-00024286 for following us on nautiluslive.org AKyT4xDvEWE-00049-00024287-00024703 we are starting uh our 12th dive right AKyT4xDvEWE-00050-00024704-00024863 number 12 AKyT4xDvEWE-00051-00024864-00025119 on AKyT4xDvEWE-00052-00025120-00025475 tamanna seamount southeast in AKyT4xDvEWE-00053-00025476-00025767 papahanaumoku aka marine national AKyT4xDvEWE-00054-00025768-00025974 monument AKyT4xDvEWE-00055-00025975-00026206 this dive is expected to be AKyT4xDvEWE-00056-00026207-00026446 16 hours AKyT4xDvEWE-00057-00026447-00026702 excuse me aaron can you zoom out a high AKyT4xDvEWE-00058-00026704-00026935 pack and just show me where i just want AKyT4xDvEWE-00059-00026936-00027327 to confirm my position yep no problem AKyT4xDvEWE-00060-00027327-00028695 one second AKyT4xDvEWE-00061-00028695-00028846 is that the perspective you're looking AKyT4xDvEWE-00062-00028847-00028935 for AKyT4xDvEWE-00063-00028936-00029527 yeah AKyT4xDvEWE-00064-00029527-00029695 just checking it with the map for some AKyT4xDvEWE-00065-00029695-00029895 reason this high pack display looks AKyT4xDvEWE-00066-00029895-00030151 different than AKyT4xDvEWE-00067-00030152-00030383 um compared to the map in the dive plan AKyT4xDvEWE-00068-00030383-00030502 yeah AKyT4xDvEWE-00069-00030503-00030735 take a look i can't really let me see it AKyT4xDvEWE-00070-00030736-00031151 under the light here um AKyT4xDvEWE-00071-00031152-00031343 i think it's just AKyT4xDvEWE-00072-00031344-00031511 oh yeah it looks like in the dive plan AKyT4xDvEWE-00073-00031512-00031670 that you started AKyT4xDvEWE-00074-00031672-00031790 here AKyT4xDvEWE-00075-00031791-00032023 yeah that's what i was wondering about AKyT4xDvEWE-00076-00032024-00032318 um or are we just seeing things that's AKyT4xDvEWE-00077-00032319-00032558 what i'm trying to figure out AKyT4xDvEWE-00078-00032560-00032918 um AKyT4xDvEWE-00079-00032919-00033183 interesting AKyT4xDvEWE-00080-00033184-00033455 interesting interesting AKyT4xDvEWE-00081-00033456-00033590 well i mean i could check the AKyT4xDvEWE-00082-00033591-00033735 coordinates on the start you feel AKyT4xDvEWE-00083-00033736-00033967 confident with those coordinates AKyT4xDvEWE-00084-00033968-00034190 um AKyT4xDvEWE-00085-00034191-00034383 i'm not sure maybe because i usually AKyT4xDvEWE-00086-00034384-00034543 don't land us right on a peak there AKyT4xDvEWE-00087-00034544-00034671 that's the thing i'm a little worried AKyT4xDvEWE-00088-00034672-00034911 about let's AKyT4xDvEWE-00089-00034912-00035083 yeah let's confirm the AKyT4xDvEWE-00090-00035084-00035295 coordinates um let's start eight two AKyT4xDvEWE-00091-00035296-00035559 four six four twenty three eight three AKyT4xDvEWE-00092-00035560-00036111 six one one four um they look correct AKyT4xDvEWE-00093-00036112-00036207 um AKyT4xDvEWE-00094-00036208-00036359 and i can turn on AKyT4xDvEWE-00095-00036360-00036518 like we can go to the background map and AKyT4xDvEWE-00096-00036519-00036679 see if that makes any sense it's quite AKyT4xDvEWE-00097-00036680-00036846 late right now AKyT4xDvEWE-00098-00036847-00037207 let me bring up high pack planning AKyT4xDvEWE-00099-00037208-00037367 well this will work you just gotta start AKyT4xDvEWE-00100-00037368-00037559 with a bit of a downhill and go into AKyT4xDvEWE-00101-00037560-00037751 that little trough i guess AKyT4xDvEWE-00102-00037752-00037990 yeah it's really it's really minor yeah AKyT4xDvEWE-00103-00037991-00038215 it's really worried okay yeah that'll do AKyT4xDvEWE-00104-00038216-00038415 thank you AKyT4xDvEWE-00105-00038416-00038607 i'm sorry to interrupt there no you AKyT4xDvEWE-00106-00038608-00038774 didn't interrupt anything we're just AKyT4xDvEWE-00107-00038775-00039159 chit-chatting okay AKyT4xDvEWE-00108-00039160-00039543 okay so how long is this is our AKyT4xDvEWE-00109-00039544-00039751 our descent's gonna be about 58 minutes AKyT4xDvEWE-00110-00039752-00039918 till we get to the bottom AKyT4xDvEWE-00111-00039919-00040343 okay 58 minutes to talk about AKyT4xDvEWE-00112-00040344-00040687 anything you want AKyT4xDvEWE-00113-00040688-00040895 talk about why we why we're doing what AKyT4xDvEWE-00114-00040896-00041007 we're doing AKyT4xDvEWE-00115-00041008-00041151 how about that AKyT4xDvEWE-00116-00041152-00041423 yeah well why are we doing that's a AKyT4xDvEWE-00117-00041424-00041639 really good question i think i'm going AKyT4xDvEWE-00118-00041640-00041911 to take a crack at answering it yeah my AKyT4xDvEWE-00119-00041912-00042223 simple my simple answer is to learn more AKyT4xDvEWE-00120-00042224-00042415 about the ocean so we AKyT4xDvEWE-00121-00042416-00042646 understand how to protect it better AKyT4xDvEWE-00122-00042647-00042846 that's my simple answer AKyT4xDvEWE-00123-00042847-00043143 i like starting with chris's exclamation AKyT4xDvEWE-00124-00043144-00043318 of uh this is AKyT4xDvEWE-00125-00043319-00043630 this is ocean world it's 70 ocean if we AKyT4xDvEWE-00126-00043631-00043839 don't know enough about the ocean AKyT4xDvEWE-00127-00043840-00044087 we normally know our planet AKyT4xDvEWE-00128-00044088-00044262 and that's true out here in the central AKyT4xDvEWE-00129-00044263-00044487 pacific AKyT4xDvEWE-00130-00044488-00044679 maybe as much as anywhere else if not AKyT4xDvEWE-00131-00044680-00044927 more so and AKyT4xDvEWE-00132-00044928-00045143 you know we have a huge marine national AKyT4xDvEWE-00133-00045144-00045395 monument that we're operating in in AKyT4xDvEWE-00134-00045396-00045567 papahanaumokuakea marine national AKyT4xDvEWE-00135-00045568-00045839 monument and world heritage site AKyT4xDvEWE-00136-00045840-00046095 and some of these sea mounts AKyT4xDvEWE-00137-00046096-00046295 they've certainly never been nobody's AKyT4xDvEWE-00138-00046296-00046518 ever dove on them before or explored AKyT4xDvEWE-00139-00046519-00046695 them or seen them with eyes but a lot of AKyT4xDvEWE-00140-00046696-00046911 them haven't even been mapped AKyT4xDvEWE-00141-00046912-00047086 so that's uh some of the things that AKyT4xDvEWE-00142-00047087-00047279 we've been doing out here is using our AKyT4xDvEWE-00143-00047280-00047423 really cool AKyT4xDvEWE-00144-00047424-00047727 multi-beam tools on this amazing AKyT4xDvEWE-00145-00047728-00048015 research vessel the eevee nautilus AKyT4xDvEWE-00146-00048016-00048158 and we mapped AKyT4xDvEWE-00147-00048159-00048374 quite a bit of these uh southern AKyT4xDvEWE-00148-00048375-00048655 wentworth seamount chain AKyT4xDvEWE-00149-00048656-00048927 and we have been diving on them on these AKyT4xDvEWE-00150-00048928-00049055 seamounts AKyT4xDvEWE-00151-00049056-00049439 trying to target some some high density AKyT4xDvEWE-00152-00049440-00049646 sponging coral communities on these AKyT4xDvEWE-00153-00049647-00049758 ridges AKyT4xDvEWE-00154-00049759-00050023 from the sea mounts and geo AKyT4xDvEWE-00155-00050024-00050262 that we've been exploring AKyT4xDvEWE-00156-00050263-00050599 and we have found several AKyT4xDvEWE-00157-00050600-00050774 high-density coral and sponge AKyT4xDvEWE-00158-00050775-00050918 communities AKyT4xDvEWE-00159-00050919-00051230 and why that's important is because we AKyT4xDvEWE-00160-00051232-00051399 need to know what's out here in order to AKyT4xDvEWE-00161-00051400-00051582 best protect and manage this area in AKyT4xDvEWE-00162-00051583-00051870 order to monitor it over time AKyT4xDvEWE-00163-00051871-00052046 our oceans are changing our earth is AKyT4xDvEWE-00164-00052047-00052175 changing AKyT4xDvEWE-00165-00052176-00052390 and we need to know what we have out AKyT4xDvEWE-00166-00052391-00052519 here and that AKyT4xDvEWE-00167-00052520-00052799 also provides additional reasons for AKyT4xDvEWE-00168-00052800-00052999 protecting this area from any future AKyT4xDvEWE-00169-00053000-00053135 impacts AKyT4xDvEWE-00170-00053136-00053359 right now it's it's protected but that AKyT4xDvEWE-00171-00053360-00053591 protection you know may not be there in AKyT4xDvEWE-00172-00053591-00053782 the future um AKyT4xDvEWE-00173-00053783-00053959 unless we you know have really good AKyT4xDvEWE-00174-00053960-00054271 reasons as to why to protect it and AKyT4xDvEWE-00175-00054272-00054438 some of the potential threats out there AKyT4xDvEWE-00176-00054439-00054726 certainly are deep sea mining for uh AKyT4xDvEWE-00177-00054727-00055142 high high value cobalt manganese crust AKyT4xDvEWE-00178-00055144-00055535 crustal areas and nodule areas AKyT4xDvEWE-00179-00055536-00055735 also fishing i mean AKyT4xDvEWE-00180-00055736-00055942 so many of the near shore fisheries are AKyT4xDvEWE-00181-00055944-00056094 depleted around the world and our AKyT4xDvEWE-00182-00056095-00056366 population certainly keeps increasing AKyT4xDvEWE-00183-00056367-00056599 i mean it's doubled in just my lifetime AKyT4xDvEWE-00184-00056600-00056815 and uh fish are a primary source of AKyT4xDvEWE-00185-00056816-00057007 protein for many people around the world AKyT4xDvEWE-00186-00057008-00057103 so AKyT4xDvEWE-00187-00057104-00057311 right now fishing is protected from AKyT4xDvEWE-00188-00057312-00057415 fishing AKyT4xDvEWE-00189-00057416-00057750 but um you know like i said that that AKyT4xDvEWE-00190-00057751-00058015 may not be there for forever AKyT4xDvEWE-00191-00058016-00058166 so we'd like to know what's down here AKyT4xDvEWE-00192-00058167-00058350 before any of these other threats come AKyT4xDvEWE-00193-00058351-00058559 up and to enhance protections for this AKyT4xDvEWE-00194-00058560-00058750 area and that's what we've been doing AKyT4xDvEWE-00195-00058751-00058903 and also AKyT4xDvEWE-00196-00058904-00059150 the amazing geologic story of the earth AKyT4xDvEWE-00197-00059151-00059415 because even though we've come to quite AKyT4xDvEWE-00198-00059416-00059559 understand AKyT4xDvEWE-00199-00059560-00059742 quite a bit about the earth and its AKyT4xDvEWE-00200-00059744-00059975 tectonic plates and the ages of AKyT4xDvEWE-00201-00059976-00060191 different things we still don't know a AKyT4xDvEWE-00202-00060191-00060279 lot AKyT4xDvEWE-00203-00060279-00060415 and we don't know how old these sea AKyT4xDvEWE-00204-00060416-00060711 mounts are or um AKyT4xDvEWE-00205-00060712-00060935 you know how how fast the pacific plate AKyT4xDvEWE-00206-00060936-00061175 is is moving and those kinds of things AKyT4xDvEWE-00207-00061176-00061303 so we're gonna AKyT4xDvEWE-00208-00061304-00061447 date some of these seamounts and the AKyT4xDvEWE-00209-00061448-00061638 rocks on them to find out that AKyT4xDvEWE-00210-00061639-00061911 information and and really cool AKyT4xDvEWE-00211-00061912-00062126 potentially really cool AKyT4xDvEWE-00212-00062127-00062206 is AKyT4xDvEWE-00213-00062207-00062399 is this seamount chain AKyT4xDvEWE-00214-00062400-00062703 part of a larger seamount chain that AKyT4xDvEWE-00215-00062704-00062806 extends AKyT4xDvEWE-00216-00062807-00063071 all the way south into the line islands AKyT4xDvEWE-00217-00063072-00063238 and all the way north AKyT4xDvEWE-00218-00063239-00063479 into the northern the wentworth chain on AKyT4xDvEWE-00219-00063479-00063582 the north AKyT4xDvEWE-00220-00063583-00063775 and then extends all the way up to an AKyT4xDvEWE-00221-00063776-00064063 area we call the hess rise AKyT4xDvEWE-00222-00064064-00064230 which is northwest of the hawaiian AKyT4xDvEWE-00223-00064232-00064535 archipelago which may represent AKyT4xDvEWE-00224-00064536-00064671 the longest AKyT4xDvEWE-00225-00064672-00064999 hotspot generated seamount chain in the AKyT4xDvEWE-00226-00065000-00065182 world well they think it might even go AKyT4xDvEWE-00227-00065183-00065391 beyond his rise this rise might AKyT4xDvEWE-00228-00065391-00065535 represent a AKyT4xDvEWE-00229-00065536-00065759 sort of a mid cretaceous turn AKyT4xDvEWE-00230-00065760-00065903 yeah plate AKyT4xDvEWE-00231-00065904-00066111 and that would be absolutely AKyT4xDvEWE-00232-00066112-00066359 unprecedented if they could actually AKyT4xDvEWE-00233-00066360-00066671 find out how the plate was moving beyond AKyT4xDvEWE-00234-00066672-00066871 say for example the emperor seamounts AKyT4xDvEWE-00235-00066872-00067038 the last one that's being set up AKyT4xDvEWE-00236-00067039-00067199 subducted right now on the aleutian AKyT4xDvEWE-00237-00067200-00067455 trench right which is about 70 to 80 AKyT4xDvEWE-00238-00067456-00067711 million years old but if they're right AKyT4xDvEWE-00239-00067712-00067838 then we have AKyT4xDvEWE-00240-00067839-00068119 an even longer record potentially them AKyT4xDvEWE-00241-00068120-00068319 of the direction of the plate AKyT4xDvEWE-00242-00068320-00068671 yeah that's really cool it's pretty wild AKyT4xDvEWE-00243-00068672-00068894 that is really wild so we don't know of AKyT4xDvEWE-00244-00068895-00069063 course and we've had plenty of great AKyT4xDvEWE-00245-00069064-00069350 hypothesis dashed by ugly facts over the AKyT4xDvEWE-00246-00069351-00069550 years AKyT4xDvEWE-00247-00069551-00069782 not ugly facts but unfortunately solid AKyT4xDvEWE-00248-00069783-00070031 facts yeah the truth is sometimes brutal AKyT4xDvEWE-00249-00070032-00070303 yes exactly but that's the point you AKyT4xDvEWE-00250-00070304-00070479 come up here and you want to have a AKyT4xDvEWE-00251-00070480-00070719 hypothesis and you want to try to be AKyT4xDvEWE-00252-00070720-00070919 able to test these hypotheses AKyT4xDvEWE-00253-00070920-00071079 because you're thinking about it all the AKyT4xDvEWE-00254-00071080-00071271 time what is going on what's what's AKyT4xDvEWE-00255-00071272-00071462 happening what happened when AKyT4xDvEWE-00256-00071463-00071623 and then you come up with an idea and AKyT4xDvEWE-00257-00071624-00071871 then you want to test it yeah AKyT4xDvEWE-00258-00071872-00072062 so even though we're looking around here AKyT4xDvEWE-00259-00072063-00072199 and collecting rocks and looking AKyT4xDvEWE-00260-00072200-00072335 creatures and everything else it's AKyT4xDvEWE-00261-00072336-00072575 hypothesis driven yep AKyT4xDvEWE-00262-00072576-00072782 that's how science moves AKyT4xDvEWE-00263-00072783-00073055 and the one cool one definitely from my AKyT4xDvEWE-00264-00073056-00073279 perspective one super cool aspect of the AKyT4xDvEWE-00265-00073280-00073559 new age of exploration that uh AKyT4xDvEWE-00266-00073560-00073782 eevee nautilus and ocean exploration AKyT4xDvEWE-00267-00073783-00073999 trust and noaa exploration and many AKyT4xDvEWE-00268-00074000-00074215 other entities are part of when these AKyT4xDvEWE-00269-00074216-00074447 rocks come back which i think we're up AKyT4xDvEWE-00270-00074448-00074679 to like 450 pounds of AKyT4xDvEWE-00271-00074680-00074935 of hard basalt rocks AKyT4xDvEWE-00272-00074936-00075359 they will be uh available for scientists AKyT4xDvEWE-00273-00075360-00075526 around the world so not just the AKyT4xDvEWE-00274-00075527-00075735 scientists on this expedition will use AKyT4xDvEWE-00275-00075736-00076047 those rocks for dating purposes but they AKyT4xDvEWE-00276-00076048-00076271 will be available for other scientists AKyT4xDvEWE-00277-00076272-00076503 to do other experiments on or to do AKyT4xDvEWE-00278-00076504-00076694 their own correction you know do their AKyT4xDvEWE-00279-00076695-00076919 own dating on it and see if the results AKyT4xDvEWE-00280-00076920-00077062 that ultimately AKyT4xDvEWE-00281-00077063-00077799 uh AKyT4xDvEWE-00282-00077800-00078079 comes up with is correct or maybe AKyT4xDvEWE-00283-00078080-00078287 you know the dating AKyT4xDvEWE-00284-00078288-00078479 protocols that or the techniques used AKyT4xDvEWE-00285-00078480-00078750 for dating have changed over the years AKyT4xDvEWE-00286-00078751-00078975 now they think they're using an argon AKyT4xDvEWE-00287-00078976-00079287 isotope sub argon kind of dating AKyT4xDvEWE-00288-00079288-00079503 analysis and future there may be other AKyT4xDvEWE-00289-00079504-00079743 ones that might provide more accurate AKyT4xDvEWE-00290-00079744-00079919 information but anyway these these AKyT4xDvEWE-00291-00079920-00080150 specimens will be available for multiple AKyT4xDvEWE-00292-00080151-00080359 scientists as well as the the AKyT4xDvEWE-00293-00080360-00080479 collections AKyT4xDvEWE-00294-00080480-00080703 you know in years past i don't know 50 AKyT4xDvEWE-00295-00080704-00080935 60 years ago when scientific expedition AKyT4xDvEWE-00296-00080936-00081126 went out they didn't always share their AKyT4xDvEWE-00297-00081127-00081382 samples with everybody AKyT4xDvEWE-00298-00081383-00081679 and so new age of exploration kind of AKyT4xDvEWE-00299-00081680-00081871 changes that paradigm AKyT4xDvEWE-00300-00081872-00082111 and provides broader access to these AKyT4xDvEWE-00301-00082112-00082271 materials and that's kind of what one AKyT4xDvEWE-00302-00082272-00082479 thing we're doing out here AKyT4xDvEWE-00303-00082480-00082671 so these rocks will also be used for a AKyT4xDvEWE-00304-00082672-00082879 completely different purpose or actually AKyT4xDvEWE-00305-00082880-00083118 completely different set of rocks AKyT4xDvEWE-00306-00083119-00083231 for AKyT4xDvEWE-00307-00083232-00083431 looking at AKyT4xDvEWE-00308-00083432-00083550 these AKyT4xDvEWE-00309-00083551-00083862 cobalt and manganese crusts and how do AKyT4xDvEWE-00310-00083863-00084006 microbes AKyT4xDvEWE-00311-00084007-00084215 how are they involved in that process of AKyT4xDvEWE-00312-00084216-00084326 forming AKyT4xDvEWE-00313-00084327-00084599 those very thin poly metallic crusts AKyT4xDvEWE-00314-00084600-00084838 over millions of years AKyT4xDvEWE-00315-00084839-00085031 are they they're definitely there the AKyT4xDvEWE-00316-00085032-00085182 microbes are on AKyT4xDvEWE-00317-00085183-00085318 on these rocks they're part of this AKyT4xDvEWE-00318-00085319-00085543 process but do they contribute to it do AKyT4xDvEWE-00319-00085544-00085791 they hinder it do they how are they AKyT4xDvEWE-00320-00085792-00086006 involved and what is their AKyT4xDvEWE-00321-00086007-00086199 you know what kind of microbes are AKyT4xDvEWE-00322-00086200-00086406 available in these processes AKyT4xDvEWE-00323-00086407-00086647 and that is a very very important AKyT4xDvEWE-00324-00086648-00086950 question considering that there's some AKyT4xDvEWE-00325-00086951-00087167 pretty large-scale AKyT4xDvEWE-00326-00087168-00087550 deep-sea mining proposals in place AKyT4xDvEWE-00327-00087551-00087687 most of the AKyT4xDvEWE-00328-00087688-00087950 cobalts and a lot of these other AKyT4xDvEWE-00329-00087951-00088143 you know rare earth elements are in the AKyT4xDvEWE-00330-00088144-00088391 deep sea and we keep using them on land AKyT4xDvEWE-00331-00088392-00088462 and AKyT4xDvEWE-00332-00088463-00088711 you know maybe 100 times more in the AKyT4xDvEWE-00333-00088712-00088823 oceans AKyT4xDvEWE-00334-00088824-00089167 or i don't we don't even know but AKyT4xDvEWE-00335-00089168-00089326 if we start mining AKyT4xDvEWE-00336-00089327-00089479 in these areas how what kind of AKyT4xDvEWE-00337-00089480-00089647 communities are we affecting and how AKyT4xDvEWE-00338-00089648-00089862 will that affect the ecological services AKyT4xDvEWE-00339-00089863-00090103 going on and nutrient cycling in the AKyT4xDvEWE-00340-00090104-00090238 deep sea AKyT4xDvEWE-00341-00090239-00090550 so we're dr beth orcus looking at that AKyT4xDvEWE-00342-00090551-00090726 and she'll be looking at these microbes AKyT4xDvEWE-00343-00090727-00090894 on these communities AKyT4xDvEWE-00344-00090895-00091150 i think one thing we've seen AKyT4xDvEWE-00345-00091151-00091399 from the rocks that she has collected is AKyT4xDvEWE-00346-00091400-00091726 that she was a little surprised at the AKyT4xDvEWE-00347-00091727-00091847 thickness AKyT4xDvEWE-00348-00091848-00092047 of the AKyT4xDvEWE-00349-00092048-00092279 cobalt manganese crusts that have come AKyT4xDvEWE-00350-00092280-00092423 up on these rocks she thought it would AKyT4xDvEWE-00351-00092424-00092631 be a little bit thicker given the AKyT4xDvEWE-00352-00092632-00092782 supposed age AKyT4xDvEWE-00353-00092783-00093031 of these seamounts and AKyT4xDvEWE-00354-00093032-00093231 you know preliminary observations AKyT4xDvEWE-00355-00093232-00093406 certainly this this needs a lot more AKyT4xDvEWE-00356-00093407-00093694 analysis but preliminary observation was AKyT4xDvEWE-00357-00093695-00093894 kind of curious as to why AKyT4xDvEWE-00358-00093895-00094094 it's not thicker than it is given the AKyT4xDvEWE-00359-00094095-00094462 seam ants are 80 70 80 70 to 100 million AKyT4xDvEWE-00360-00094463-00094615 years old AKyT4xDvEWE-00361-00094616-00094791 so those are some of the questions that AKyT4xDvEWE-00362-00094792-00095159 we're looking at and we'll be AKyT4xDvEWE-00363-00095160-00095326 looking at in the future including some AKyT4xDvEWE-00364-00095327-00095526 really cool organisms that have been AKyT4xDvEWE-00365-00095527-00095750 collected AKyT4xDvEWE-00366-00095751-00095862 so AKyT4xDvEWE-00367-00095863-00096087 um regarding the rocks collection and AKyT4xDvEWE-00368-00096088-00096238 why we're doing the geology as i AKyT4xDvEWE-00369-00096239-00096518 mentioned we do have some hypotheses AKyT4xDvEWE-00370-00096519-00096767 right now the hypothesis is that these AKyT4xDvEWE-00371-00096768-00096943 seamounts are part of a much longer AKyT4xDvEWE-00372-00096944-00097231 chain and we can tell that by actually AKyT4xDvEWE-00373-00097232-00097447 analyzing the rocks themselves to test AKyT4xDvEWE-00374-00097448-00097671 that and see if they match up with other AKyT4xDvEWE-00375-00097672-00097815 members of that chain that have been AKyT4xDvEWE-00376-00097816-00098174 previously sampled both north and south AKyT4xDvEWE-00377-00098175-00098374 with regarding to the communities which AKyT4xDvEWE-00378-00098375-00098526 he hoped to find these amazing high AKyT4xDvEWE-00379-00098527-00098679 density communities we have some AKyT4xDvEWE-00380-00098680-00098935 hypotheses regarding that we think that AKyT4xDvEWE-00381-00098936-00099118 these rift zone ridges are quite AKyT4xDvEWE-00382-00099119-00099279 important but we also think the AKyT4xDvEWE-00383-00099280-00099487 orientation of the rift is quite AKyT4xDvEWE-00384-00099488-00099662 important and i'm going to throw this AKyT4xDvEWE-00385-00099663-00099806 out right now and i'm probably going to AKyT4xDvEWE-00386-00099807-00099991 jinx the whole thing but i think this is AKyT4xDvEWE-00387-00099992-00100206 a good orientation and i'm really hoping AKyT4xDvEWE-00388-00100207-00100391 to see some animals AKyT4xDvEWE-00389-00100392-00100606 here at and the depth is very good as AKyT4xDvEWE-00390-00100607-00100711 well AKyT4xDvEWE-00391-00100712-00100974 so i may get dashed AKyT4xDvEWE-00392-00100975-00101103 pieces but AKyT4xDvEWE-00393-00101104-00101318 that's that's how you learn you know AKyT4xDvEWE-00394-00101319-00101535 just because it doesn't pan out AKyT4xDvEWE-00395-00101536-00101687 you know what you're thinking at the AKyT4xDvEWE-00396-00101688-00101862 moment doesn't mean it's not valuable AKyT4xDvEWE-00397-00101863-00102182 it's extremely valuable we learn from AKyT4xDvEWE-00398-00102183-00102262 not AKyT4xDvEWE-00399-00102263-00102486 getting what our expectations were and AKyT4xDvEWE-00400-00102488-00102686 not seeing what our expectations were AKyT4xDvEWE-00401-00102688-00102910 and then we try to figure out why AKyT4xDvEWE-00402-00102911-00103102 so that's part of it regarding new AKyT4xDvEWE-00403-00103103-00103351 species AKyT4xDvEWE-00404-00103352-00103494 in order to really understand these AKyT4xDvEWE-00405-00103495-00103702 communities we got to know the members AKyT4xDvEWE-00406-00103703-00103958 and the fact of the matter is there's a AKyT4xDvEWE-00407-00103959-00104175 lot of types of corals and sponges and AKyT4xDvEWE-00408-00104176-00104351 other animals which we AKyT4xDvEWE-00409-00104352-00104727 simply don't know and they're new AKyT4xDvEWE-00410-00104728-00104934 we're still finding them all the time AKyT4xDvEWE-00411-00104935-00105095 and we're trying to AKyT4xDvEWE-00412-00105096-00105254 find out what the composition of the AKyT4xDvEWE-00413-00105255-00105527 biota is in the deep sea and once we do AKyT4xDvEWE-00414-00105528-00105734 have a better understanding of when AKyT4xDvEWE-00415-00105735-00105943 animals actually are down here AKyT4xDvEWE-00416-00105944-00106166 and how they're distributed then we can AKyT4xDvEWE-00417-00106167-00106423 make additional hypotheses AKyT4xDvEWE-00418-00106424-00106710 how did they acquire their distributions AKyT4xDvEWE-00419-00106711-00106934 you know um what is larval transport AKyT4xDvEWE-00420-00106935-00107119 like in the deep sea AKyT4xDvEWE-00421-00107120-00107207 um AKyT4xDvEWE-00422-00107208-00107351 you know for example how do these AKyT4xDvEWE-00423-00107352-00107623 communities develop here we have some AKyT4xDvEWE-00424-00107624-00107815 ideas about that but AKyT4xDvEWE-00425-00107816-00108031 but we have to these are sort of initial AKyT4xDvEWE-00426-00108032-00108295 surveys just documenting right now what AKyT4xDvEWE-00427-00108296-00108583 is down here with respect to the animal AKyT4xDvEWE-00428-00108583-00108766 life counting AKyT4xDvEWE-00429-00108767-00108927 uh measuring AKyT4xDvEWE-00430-00108928-00109158 uh relating the animals to the substrate AKyT4xDvEWE-00431-00109159-00109254 type AKyT4xDvEWE-00432-00109255-00109486 and all of these data will go into a AKyT4xDvEWE-00433-00109488-00109775 master database that's being that is in AKyT4xDvEWE-00434-00109776-00109983 existence at a noaa AKyT4xDvEWE-00435-00109983-00110175 site it's the noaa deep sea coral AKyT4xDvEWE-00436-00110176-00110478 research and technology AKyT4xDvEWE-00437-00110479-00110695 database AKyT4xDvEWE-00438-00110696-00110886 and all of the video will be annotated AKyT4xDvEWE-00439-00110888-00111175 all this data will be sent to AKyT4xDvEWE-00440-00111176-00111431 this database to be incorporated in with AKyT4xDvEWE-00441-00111432-00111575 essentially millions of other AKyT4xDvEWE-00442-00111576-00111751 observations AKyT4xDvEWE-00443-00111752-00111910 around the world AKyT4xDvEWE-00444-00111911-00112207 and as we as they continue to build this AKyT4xDvEWE-00445-00112208-00112463 marvelous database then scientists AKyT4xDvEWE-00446-00112464-00112590 around the world are going to start to AKyT4xDvEWE-00447-00112591-00112775 see patterns and they're going to start AKyT4xDvEWE-00448-00112776-00113023 to understand more and more about what's AKyT4xDvEWE-00449-00113024-00113215 going down here AKyT4xDvEWE-00450-00113216-00113415 what's going on down here AKyT4xDvEWE-00451-00113416-00113623 so that's kind of what we're doing uh AKyT4xDvEWE-00452-00113624-00113790 we're not just trying to get pictures AKyT4xDvEWE-00453-00113791-00114015 and pretty animals one way we you know AKyT4xDvEWE-00454-00114016-00114207 one of the things we do is we zoom in on AKyT4xDvEWE-00455-00114208-00114439 these animals because in many cases AKyT4xDvEWE-00456-00114440-00114607 that's the way you identify them they're AKyT4xDvEWE-00457-00114608-00114910 really hard to identify animals from AKyT4xDvEWE-00458-00114911-00115199 further away imagery but if you zoom in AKyT4xDvEWE-00459-00115200-00115431 on them a lot of times you can AKyT4xDvEWE-00460-00115432-00115599 identify them and then if you can AKyT4xDvEWE-00461-00115600-00115807 identify one and you can see they have AKyT4xDvEWE-00462-00115808-00115902 sort of AKyT4xDvEWE-00463-00115903-00116031 an appearance AKyT4xDvEWE-00464-00116032-00116190 from a little further away then you know AKyT4xDvEWE-00465-00116191-00116447 that the rest of them are the species AKyT4xDvEWE-00466-00116448-00116727 it seems too isn't it that a lot of the AKyT4xDvEWE-00467-00116728-00116919 animals have very subtle differences AKyT4xDvEWE-00468-00116920-00117095 that you need to zoom in on that's AKyT4xDvEWE-00469-00117096-00117319 correct very subtle differences like the AKyT4xDvEWE-00470-00117320-00117551 prim primonoids are a perfect example of AKyT4xDvEWE-00471-00117552-00117727 these these are AKyT4xDvEWE-00472-00117728-00118078 sort of slender small white AKyT4xDvEWE-00473-00118079-00118231 coral colonies they usually don't have AKyT4xDvEWE-00474-00118232-00118495 much color you can't go on that AKyT4xDvEWE-00475-00118496-00118702 branching patterns but also just the AKyT4xDvEWE-00476-00118703-00118975 polyps themselves are are very important AKyT4xDvEWE-00477-00118976-00119166 to look at AKyT4xDvEWE-00478-00119167-00119239 so AKyT4xDvEWE-00479-00119240-00119527 in situ and and seeing it how the polyps AKyT4xDvEWE-00480-00119528-00119751 express themselves in the environment as AKyT4xDvEWE-00481-00119752-00119983 opposed to you know after they've AKyT4xDvEWE-00482-00119983-00120102 come up and AKyT4xDvEWE-00483-00120103-00120454 been depressurized and exposed to air AKyT4xDvEWE-00484-00120455-00120663 and all those other kinds of things so AKyT4xDvEWE-00485-00120664-00120878 yeah AKyT4xDvEWE-00486-00120879-00120951 so AKyT4xDvEWE-00487-00120952-00121247 this project has so many objectives AKyT4xDvEWE-00488-00121248-00121510 it's it really is and maybe it's not AKyT4xDvEWE-00489-00121511-00121766 that obvious to the the regular viewer AKyT4xDvEWE-00490-00121767-00121975 you know why and how and what we're AKyT4xDvEWE-00491-00121976-00122199 doing down here but AKyT4xDvEWE-00492-00122200-00122358 there's a lot of plans that went into AKyT4xDvEWE-00493-00122359-00122639 this and a lot of objectives for this AKyT4xDvEWE-00494-00122640-00122863 particular cruise before we set sail AKyT4xDvEWE-00495-00122864-00123207 yeah back in in mid-november AKyT4xDvEWE-00496-00123208-00123463 and there's another huge aspect of this AKyT4xDvEWE-00497-00123464-00123686 expedition that that AKyT4xDvEWE-00498-00123688-00123975 is why we're talking to you right now AKyT4xDvEWE-00499-00123976-00124214 you know we are live AKyT4xDvEWE-00500-00124215-00124431 from the middle of the pacific AKyT4xDvEWE-00501-00124432-00124751 it is no small expense to send back high AKyT4xDvEWE-00502-00124752-00124966 definition video from a ship in the AKyT4xDvEWE-00503-00124967-00125127 middle of the pacific AKyT4xDvEWE-00504-00125128-00125366 and then rebroadcast it out to the world AKyT4xDvEWE-00505-00125367-00125558 it is a significant AKyT4xDvEWE-00506-00125559-00125710 uh investment AKyT4xDvEWE-00507-00125711-00126023 and also we have a number of people that AKyT4xDvEWE-00508-00126024-00126223 are very young in their scientific AKyT4xDvEWE-00509-00126224-00126486 career just starting out i have kainalu AKyT4xDvEWE-00510-00126488-00126719 to my right here who is AKyT4xDvEWE-00511-00126720-00126934 you know just starting out in his AKyT4xDvEWE-00512-00126935-00127166 exploration of science and considering AKyT4xDvEWE-00513-00127167-00127254 future AKyT4xDvEWE-00514-00127255-00127463 endeavors and we have others on the ship AKyT4xDvEWE-00515-00127464-00127639 as well and AKyT4xDvEWE-00516-00127640-00127878 we have teachers and educators we talked AKyT4xDvEWE-00517-00127879-00128239 to afridita's class earlier today in los AKyT4xDvEWE-00518-00128240-00128486 angeles and shared the amazing stuff AKyT4xDvEWE-00519-00128488-00128710 we're doing out here with them AKyT4xDvEWE-00520-00128711-00128958 we talked to students in washington and AKyT4xDvEWE-00521-00128959-00129239 hawaii and california today and we're AKyT4xDvEWE-00522-00129240-00129486 sharing that that's a big part AKyT4xDvEWE-00523-00129488-00129799 of what we do because we want to inspire AKyT4xDvEWE-00524-00129800-00130054 the next generation to AKyT4xDvEWE-00525-00130055-00130271 to work for this environment to work in AKyT4xDvEWE-00526-00130272-00130543 this environment to care for this to to AKyT4xDvEWE-00527-00130544-00130686 know what it's like AKyT4xDvEWE-00528-00130688-00130934 you know to try it out too to know what AKyT4xDvEWE-00529-00130935-00131263 it takes i mean is is like AKyT4xDvEWE-00530-00131264-00131478 working on a research vessel something AKyT4xDvEWE-00531-00131479-00131678 in your future you know you AKyT4xDvEWE-00532-00131679-00131887 it's kind of hard to you can't watch a AKyT4xDvEWE-00533-00131888-00132087 video and decide that right i know what AKyT4xDvEWE-00534-00132088-00132223 do you think it means your first time AKyT4xDvEWE-00535-00132224-00132599 out yeah AKyT4xDvEWE-00536-00132600-00132823 yeah it's amazing um AKyT4xDvEWE-00537-00132824-00133054 i feel very privileged and AKyT4xDvEWE-00538-00133055-00133287 yeah this really humbled to be a part of AKyT4xDvEWE-00539-00133288-00133519 a small contribution of this bigger AKyT4xDvEWE-00540-00133520-00133702 these bigger explorations so it's really AKyT4xDvEWE-00541-00133703-00133983 awesome to be a part of it all and AKyT4xDvEWE-00542-00133984-00134199 not so small kind of we've all been AKyT4xDvEWE-00543-00134200-00134407 walking watching how you work AKyT4xDvEWE-00544-00134408-00134607 which is absolutely amazing i'm AKyT4xDvEWE-00545-00134608-00134783 surprised if you get two or three hours AKyT4xDvEWE-00546-00134784-00134943 sleep at night AKyT4xDvEWE-00547-00134944-00135231 i'm surprised if any of us AKyT4xDvEWE-00548-00135232-00135439 now but seriously it's it's been really AKyT4xDvEWE-00549-00135440-00135647 inspiring to work with a lot everyone AKyT4xDvEWE-00550-00135648-00135807 who's just really good at what they do AKyT4xDvEWE-00551-00135808-00135919 and AKyT4xDvEWE-00552-00135920-00136159 love what and passionate and of what AKyT4xDvEWE-00553-00136160-00136359 they do and so AKyT4xDvEWE-00554-00136360-00136575 yeah that's for me being AKyT4xDvEWE-00555-00136576-00136790 like you said AKyT4xDvEWE-00556-00136791-00137102 still exploring my future and AKyT4xDvEWE-00557-00137103-00137414 the opportunities it's AKyT4xDvEWE-00558-00137415-00137614 yeah it's just great to be on board and AKyT4xDvEWE-00559-00137615-00137807 be a part of it all AKyT4xDvEWE-00560-00137808-00137966 right well we're delighted to have you AKyT4xDvEWE-00561-00137967-00138231 and we're thankful to have you as well AKyT4xDvEWE-00562-00138232-00138439 you're down in the lab you're up here AKyT4xDvEWE-00563-00138440-00138671 you're collecting data you're AKyT4xDvEWE-00564-00138672-00139031 he's also doing his homework AKyT4xDvEWE-00565-00139032-00139319 on top of doing the full job he's also AKyT4xDvEWE-00566-00139320-00139535 going to doing his like university AKyT4xDvEWE-00567-00139536-00139839 studies yeah it's very impressive AKyT4xDvEWE-00568-00139840-00140319 yeah so yeah i see the learning in our AKyT4xDvEWE-00569-00140320-00140543 group here the different teams is like AKyT4xDvEWE-00570-00140544-00140839 we have waves of learning yeah no matter AKyT4xDvEWE-00571-00140840-00141071 how old you are how much how much AKyT4xDvEWE-00572-00141072-00141295 experience you have yeah there's always AKyT4xDvEWE-00573-00141296-00141583 these waves of learning and um cainello AKyT4xDvEWE-00574-00141584-00141911 is uh really absorbing every type of job AKyT4xDvEWE-00575-00141912-00142223 you're working with the data loggers AKyT4xDvEWE-00576-00142224-00142407 you're working with the scientists AKyT4xDvEWE-00577-00142408-00142590 you're working with the expedition AKyT4xDvEWE-00578-00142591-00142702 leaders AKyT4xDvEWE-00579-00142703-00142911 the lead scientists so AKyT4xDvEWE-00580-00142912-00143183 this is a wonderful experience and you AKyT4xDvEWE-00581-00143184-00143439 are the perfect person because you just AKyT4xDvEWE-00582-00143440-00143726 learn so quick and um AKyT4xDvEWE-00583-00143727-00143895 it's just amazing AKyT4xDvEWE-00584-00143896-00144143 uh it's really awesome nautilus oit is AKyT4xDvEWE-00585-00144144-00144414 really awesome because yeah i'm able to AKyT4xDvEWE-00586-00144415-00144535 just AKyT4xDvEWE-00587-00144536-00144735 learn from different people and be a AKyT4xDvEWE-00588-00144736-00144871 part of AKyT4xDvEWE-00589-00144872-00145175 not just science but communication AKyT4xDvEWE-00590-00145176-00145302 learn AKyT4xDvEWE-00591-00145303-00145478 yeah about everyone's AKyT4xDvEWE-00592-00145479-00145639 the work that they do so it's it's AKyT4xDvEWE-00593-00145640-00145902 really exciting you know from a from an AKyT4xDvEWE-00594-00145903-00146071 old timer AKyT4xDvEWE-00595-00146072-00146231 there's sort of a shift almost a AKyT4xDvEWE-00596-00146232-00146439 paradigm shift that's going on at least AKyT4xDvEWE-00597-00146440-00146702 in in this particular field of research AKyT4xDvEWE-00598-00146703-00146975 where i sort of remember decades ago AKyT4xDvEWE-00599-00146976-00147166 you know when people would acquire data AKyT4xDvEWE-00600-00147167-00147383 it was just so difficult to get down to AKyT4xDvEWE-00601-00147384-00147551 the deep sea that people would sort of AKyT4xDvEWE-00602-00147552-00147814 hold on to their data type tight you AKyT4xDvEWE-00603-00147815-00147911 know so they could get their AKyT4xDvEWE-00604-00147912-00148095 publications and get everything like AKyT4xDvEWE-00605-00148096-00148207 that done AKyT4xDvEWE-00606-00148208-00148454 and nowadays with oet and some of these AKyT4xDvEWE-00607-00148455-00148639 other ships that are actually AKyT4xDvEWE-00608-00148640-00148887 broadcasting all the video everywhere AKyT4xDvEWE-00609-00148888-00149102 and all the people that come aboard the AKyT4xDvEWE-00610-00149103-00149399 ship uh the internship program AKyT4xDvEWE-00611-00149400-00149511 and all of this and what's going to AKyT4xDvEWE-00612-00149512-00149695 happen to all the specimens they're AKyT4xDvEWE-00613-00149696-00149807 going to AKyT4xDvEWE-00614-00149808-00150014 freely accessible repositories what AKyT4xDvEWE-00615-00150015-00150278 happens to the video it's accessible uh AKyT4xDvEWE-00616-00150279-00150495 upon request what happens to the data AKyT4xDvEWE-00617-00150496-00150647 extract them from the video it AKyT4xDvEWE-00618-00150648-00150854 immediately goes on to AKyT4xDvEWE-00619-00150855-00151126 you know a freely accessible database AKyT4xDvEWE-00620-00151127-00151263 it's sharing AKyT4xDvEWE-00621-00151264-00151471 i mean this AKyT4xDvEWE-00622-00151472-00151711 it didn't used to be like this and now AKyT4xDvEWE-00623-00151712-00151911 it's not yeah and i'm afraid i was one AKyT4xDvEWE-00624-00151912-00152102 of those people too i have to tell you AKyT4xDvEWE-00625-00152103-00152335 20 or 30 years ago or something AKyT4xDvEWE-00626-00152336-00152559 and now all i want to do is AKyT4xDvEWE-00627-00152560-00152759 whatever we acquire i want it to get out AKyT4xDvEWE-00628-00152760-00152959 and i wanted to get out fast because AKyT4xDvEWE-00629-00152960-00153190 it's useless unless you can get people AKyT4xDvEWE-00630-00153191-00153359 to look at your data AKyT4xDvEWE-00631-00153360-00153535 and everything else so that's AKyT4xDvEWE-00632-00153536-00153759 that's just a marvelous thing i've seen AKyT4xDvEWE-00633-00153760-00154031 over the years this change and this AKyT4xDvEWE-00634-00154032-00154326 sharing amongst the science community as AKyT4xDvEWE-00635-00154327-00154631 well as sharing amongst the public here AKyT4xDvEWE-00636-00154632-00154702 with AKyT4xDvEWE-00637-00154703-00154959 all of the the uh would be deep sea AKyT4xDvEWE-00638-00154960-00155231 explorers or the the kids out here the AKyT4xDvEWE-00639-00155232-00155343 other people AKyT4xDvEWE-00640-00155344-00155654 who want to do this AKyT4xDvEWE-00641-00155655-00155831 yeah and connecting AKyT4xDvEWE-00642-00155832-00155999 you know there's there's only a few of AKyT4xDvEWE-00643-00156000-00156223 us as many of us as can fit on the ship AKyT4xDvEWE-00644-00156224-00156495 as possible you know 50 or so people but AKyT4xDvEWE-00645-00156496-00156719 then we have an entire army AKyT4xDvEWE-00646-00156720-00156943 of people participating from all over AKyT4xDvEWE-00647-00156944-00157151 the world that are looking at things AKyT4xDvEWE-00648-00157152-00157351 with us in real time and providing their AKyT4xDvEWE-00649-00157352-00157463 input AKyT4xDvEWE-00650-00157464-00157543 and AKyT4xDvEWE-00651-00157544-00157735 you know deciding whether something AKyT4xDvEWE-00652-00157736-00157943 should be collected or looks or we've AKyT4xDvEWE-00653-00157944-00158111 already collected it you know it's just AKyT4xDvEWE-00654-00158112-00158239 this huge AKyT4xDvEWE-00655-00158240-00158463 collaborative approach AKyT4xDvEWE-00656-00158464-00158799 and it is it's a major paradigm shift on AKyT4xDvEWE-00657-00158800-00158959 the way research AKyT4xDvEWE-00658-00158960-00159190 had been conducted it really is it's a AKyT4xDvEWE-00659-00159191-00159463 revolution in how research is conducted AKyT4xDvEWE-00660-00159464-00159639 i mean i'm looking at the chat screen AKyT4xDvEWE-00661-00159640-00159871 right here where we have scientists who AKyT4xDvEWE-00662-00159872-00160078 are commenting all the time AKyT4xDvEWE-00663-00160079-00160302 and we actually call out for help on AKyT4xDvEWE-00664-00160303-00160590 identification or is this a good rock or AKyT4xDvEWE-00665-00160591-00160743 something because we have geologists and AKyT4xDvEWE-00666-00160744-00160871 biologists AKyT4xDvEWE-00667-00160872-00161054 and then at the same time you're looking AKyT4xDvEWE-00668-00161055-00161390 at your public screen and we have people AKyT4xDvEWE-00669-00161391-00161775 from all over the world watching us from AKyT4xDvEWE-00670-00161776-00162054 korea we have luna from korea watching AKyT4xDvEWE-00671-00162055-00162175 us AKyT4xDvEWE-00672-00162176-00162383 very excited about AKyT4xDvEWE-00673-00162384-00162599 even our talks about careers and AKyT4xDvEWE-00674-00162600-00162847 personal experiences so AKyT4xDvEWE-00675-00162848-00162919 and AKyT4xDvEWE-00676-00162920-00163159 the viewers i don't know how many sets AKyT4xDvEWE-00677-00163160-00163343 of eyes we have on the screen but our AKyT4xDvEWE-00678-00163344-00163719 viewers also help us identify species or AKyT4xDvEWE-00679-00163720-00163902 look for something that we haven't paid AKyT4xDvEWE-00680-00163903-00164063 attention to yet AKyT4xDvEWE-00681-00164064-00164190 so AKyT4xDvEWE-00682-00164191-00164463 the technology is just extraordinary i AKyT4xDvEWE-00683-00164464-00164654 mean we're out AKyT4xDvEWE-00684-00164655-00164854 out in the middle of the pacific AKyT4xDvEWE-00685-00164855-00165119 and yet we have instantaneous chat AKyT4xDvEWE-00686-00165120-00165375 instantaneous comments and then you AKyT4xDvEWE-00687-00165376-00165695 folks are seeing what we see with maybe AKyT4xDvEWE-00688-00165696-00165959 a delay of 30 seconds max i don't even AKyT4xDvEWE-00689-00165960-00166254 know what it is 10 milliseconds AKyT4xDvEWE-00690-00166255-00166638 it's astonishing i mean AKyT4xDvEWE-00691-00166639-00166766 i don't i don't know it's it's a AKyT4xDvEWE-00692-00166767-00167126 revolution and when you get more eyes AKyT4xDvEWE-00693-00167127-00167319 on the research here and more eyes on AKyT4xDvEWE-00694-00167320-00167543 the deep sea floor AKyT4xDvEWE-00695-00167544-00167878 all it can possibly do is help AKyT4xDvEWE-00696-00167879-00167975 yeah AKyT4xDvEWE-00697-00167976-00168135 i mean it's it's the first time that AKyT4xDvEWE-00698-00168136-00168343 humans are setting eyes on this why AKyT4xDvEWE-00699-00168344-00168654 should we keep it to ourselves it's a AKyT4xDvEWE-00700-00168655-00169007 these these resources these places are AKyT4xDvEWE-00701-00169008-00169423 a part of the earth they're everybody's AKyT4xDvEWE-00702-00169424-00169623 they're part of everybody so you know AKyT4xDvEWE-00703-00169624-00169847 it's no reason that it shouldn't be AKyT4xDvEWE-00704-00169848-00169959 shared AKyT4xDvEWE-00705-00169960-00170183 uh with the world yeah the other part of AKyT4xDvEWE-00706-00170184-00170478 it for me personally is once i started AKyT4xDvEWE-00707-00170479-00170735 uh years ago um with this AKyT4xDvEWE-00708-00170736-00170983 you know a sister program of this and AKyT4xDvEWE-00709-00170984-00171214 that was also broadcasting the dive AKyT4xDvEWE-00710-00171215-00171390 video through telepresence AKyT4xDvEWE-00711-00171391-00171631 i got to meet a lot of people AKyT4xDvEWE-00712-00171632-00171847 that i hadn't met before and communicate AKyT4xDvEWE-00713-00171848-00172078 with these people and it's a regular AKyT4xDvEWE-00714-00172079-00172326 thing a specialist around the world AKyT4xDvEWE-00715-00172327-00172551 just email them and just say AKyT4xDvEWE-00716-00172552-00172695 you know there's there's people in AKyT4xDvEWE-00717-00172696-00172902 moscow there's people down in louisiana AKyT4xDvEWE-00718-00172903-00173143 scott france les france watling who's in AKyT4xDvEWE-00719-00173144-00173399 both maine and in hawaii um AKyT4xDvEWE-00720-00173400-00173726 geologists in california and in europe AKyT4xDvEWE-00721-00173727-00173902 as well AKyT4xDvEWE-00722-00173903-00173983 and AKyT4xDvEWE-00723-00173984-00174199 it's just your AKyT4xDvEWE-00724-00174200-00174478 it just opens everything up AKyT4xDvEWE-00725-00174479-00174726 it opens up the whole conversation AKyT4xDvEWE-00726-00174727-00175078 here is and it's it speeds up AKyT4xDvEWE-00727-00175079-00175302 the AKyT4xDvEWE-00728-00175303-00175526 the understanding of the deep sea AKyT4xDvEWE-00729-00175527-00175807 accelerates it you know a lot yeah by AKyT4xDvEWE-00730-00175808-00176326 orders of magnitude AKyT4xDvEWE-00731-00176327-00176551 certainly you know the like the animal AKyT4xDvEWE-00732-00176552-00176766 guide that's online that anybody can AKyT4xDvEWE-00733-00176767-00177047 access and really try to identify these AKyT4xDvEWE-00734-00177048-00177383 these animals the same way we are um AKyT4xDvEWE-00735-00177384-00177678 the resources the gis resources i sure AKyT4xDvEWE-00736-00177679-00177847 hope we get more of a public friendly AKyT4xDvEWE-00737-00177848-00178038 guide i mean right now it's more as a AKyT4xDvEWE-00738-00178039-00178223 guide for researchers who are trying to AKyT4xDvEWE-00739-00178224-00178423 figure out animals it's pretty good AKyT4xDvEWE-00740-00178424-00178623 though i think the general general AKyT4xDvEWE-00741-00178624-00178902 person can get it certainly isn't on the AKyT4xDvEWE-00742-00178903-00179166 level of like uh sibley's guide to birds AKyT4xDvEWE-00743-00179167-00179359 or something like that with uh AKyT4xDvEWE-00744-00179360-00179599 well organized it's more of a scientific AKyT4xDvEWE-00745-00179600-00179814 taxonomic organization but i think it's AKyT4xDvEWE-00746-00179815-00180047 still pretty good well you know i use i AKyT4xDvEWE-00747-00180048-00180302 use this thing called ibird pro i also AKyT4xDvEWE-00748-00180303-00180535 use the audubon and cornell university AKyT4xDvEWE-00749-00180536-00180814 because i like birds yeah too in my in AKyT4xDvEWE-00750-00180815-00181007 my terrestrial life AKyT4xDvEWE-00751-00181008-00181111 and AKyT4xDvEWE-00752-00181112-00181302 i like some of these these things AKyT4xDvEWE-00753-00181303-00181487 because you can you can sit there and AKyT4xDvEWE-00754-00181488-00181695 filter and just say okay i want birds AKyT4xDvEWE-00755-00181696-00181847 only from washing i'm trying to figure AKyT4xDvEWE-00756-00181848-00182151 this out and i want birds that are small AKyT4xDvEWE-00757-00182152-00182366 birds that are near you know beach AKyT4xDvEWE-00758-00182367-00182623 walkers or something and you can AKyT4xDvEWE-00759-00182624-00182790 scroll down and get rid of all the other AKyT4xDvEWE-00760-00182791-00182895 things AKyT4xDvEWE-00761-00182896-00183135 and then get a set subset of that AKyT4xDvEWE-00762-00183136-00183383 database and that's really the dream for AKyT4xDvEWE-00763-00183384-00183551 this photo guide AKyT4xDvEWE-00764-00183552-00183663 is that AKyT4xDvEWE-00765-00183664-00183983 okay it's a sea star okay put that in AKyT4xDvEWE-00766-00183984-00184190 and it's got spines that are so long and AKyT4xDvEWE-00767-00184191-00184366 it's this color AKyT4xDvEWE-00768-00184367-00184511 and then you'll get AKyT4xDvEWE-00769-00184512-00184695 four five six AKyT4xDvEWE-00770-00184696-00184878 possibilities and you don't have to go AKyT4xDvEWE-00771-00184879-00185047 through all of this well they're AKyT4xDvEWE-00772-00185048-00185271 probably in the you know pretty soon AKyT4xDvEWE-00773-00185272-00185463 years to come you know as the videos AKyT4xDvEWE-00774-00185464-00185599 going it's they're going to have a AKyT4xDvEWE-00775-00185600-00185695 little AKyT4xDvEWE-00776-00185696-00185902 kind of semi artificial intelligence AKyT4xDvEWE-00777-00185903-00186078 thing that's going to limit the scope of AKyT4xDvEWE-00778-00186079-00186278 the guide to what you're kind of looking AKyT4xDvEWE-00779-00186279-00186447 at already and it's going to provide AKyT4xDvEWE-00780-00186448-00186614 that to you and you can narrow it down i AKyT4xDvEWE-00781-00186615-00186895 mean we already have things like that so AKyT4xDvEWE-00782-00186896-00187038 yeah it's it's AKyT4xDvEWE-00783-00187039-00187214 i mean the technology on this vessel AKyT4xDvEWE-00784-00187215-00187495 already is like off the charts it's uh AKyT4xDvEWE-00785-00187496-00187735 you know we've got super literally super AKyT4xDvEWE-00786-00187736-00187983 computer processing on board i don't AKyT4xDvEWE-00787-00187984-00188223 know how many petabytes of storage we AKyT4xDvEWE-00788-00188224-00188431 have on this on this vessel for all the AKyT4xDvEWE-00789-00188432-00188526 data AKyT4xDvEWE-00790-00188527-00188743 that are coming in from AKyT4xDvEWE-00791-00188744-00188950 the sensors and the mapping arrays and AKyT4xDvEWE-00792-00188951-00189054 the AKyT4xDvEWE-00793-00189055-00189383 video and the you know the ipac all AKyT4xDvEWE-00794-00189384-00189654 these different sources and uh it's a AKyT4xDvEWE-00795-00189655-00189887 phenomenal amount of information AKyT4xDvEWE-00796-00189888-00190031 you know one other thing i forgot to AKyT4xDvEWE-00797-00190032-00190254 mention is all the interactions that are AKyT4xDvEWE-00798-00190255-00190543 going on in the room behind us this AKyT4xDvEWE-00799-00190544-00190766 there are specialists on board the the AKyT4xDvEWE-00800-00190767-00191007 ship that actually are interacting with AKyT4xDvEWE-00801-00191008-00191254 school classes and other groups and so AKyT4xDvEWE-00802-00191255-00191454 forth and bringing this whole experience AKyT4xDvEWE-00803-00191455-00191695 to them and out and asking their or AKyT4xDvEWE-00804-00191696-00191871 answering their questions AKyT4xDvEWE-00805-00191872-00192159 and talking about this it's just AKyT4xDvEWE-00806-00192160-00192366 this development of all this stuff AKyT4xDvEWE-00807-00192367-00192575 you know in the last AKyT4xDvEWE-00808-00192576-00193263 decade is extraordinary yes AKyT4xDvEWE-00809-00193264-00193575 uh the the viewers are asking why is AKyT4xDvEWE-00810-00193576-00193807 argos view black and white AKyT4xDvEWE-00811-00193808-00194087 it's marine snow AKyT4xDvEWE-00812-00194088-00194271 we have a different camera set up with AKyT4xDvEWE-00813-00194272-00194454 it right now we had to switch AKyT4xDvEWE-00814-00194455-00194638 oh okay AKyT4xDvEWE-00815-00194639-00195214 thank you AKyT4xDvEWE-00816-00195215-00195447 despite all the technology the people AKyT4xDvEWE-00817-00195448-00195719 still have to eat occasionally so we're AKyT4xDvEWE-00818-00195720-00195999 experiencing a little uh is it dinner AKyT4xDvEWE-00819-00196000-00196135 it's dinner time AKyT4xDvEWE-00820-00196136-00196526 i know a little relief uh shift going on AKyT4xDvEWE-00821-00196527-00196750 for the pilots and AKyT4xDvEWE-00822-00196751-00197150 uh eventually eventually us so AKyT4xDvEWE-00823-00197151-00197350 and we have chefs on board this vessel AKyT4xDvEWE-00824-00197351-00197647 we have two chefs yeah we have a kitchen AKyT4xDvEWE-00825-00197648-00197871 crew and they provide amazing food for AKyT4xDvEWE-00826-00197872-00198078 us while we're out here and AKyT4xDvEWE-00827-00198079-00198287 three meals a day it's hard to like not AKyT4xDvEWE-00828-00198288-00198543 gain weight it's uh also it's a very AKyT4xDvEWE-00829-00198544-00198726 international vessel we have a lot of AKyT4xDvEWE-00830-00198727-00198935 people from a variety of countries which AKyT4xDvEWE-00831-00198936-00199431 is russia and ukraine and honduras and AKyT4xDvEWE-00832-00199432-00199614 from all over the world AKyT4xDvEWE-00833-00199615-00199831 us canada AKyT4xDvEWE-00834-00199832-00200047 yeah and one of our missions is to AKyT4xDvEWE-00835-00200048-00200190 really share everything that we're AKyT4xDvEWE-00836-00200191-00200319 learning life AKyT4xDvEWE-00837-00200320-00200638 on different social media platforms AKyT4xDvEWE-00838-00200639-00200726 our AKyT4xDvEWE-00839-00200727-00200950 narratives live.org AKyT4xDvEWE-00840-00200951-00201271 webpage AKyT4xDvEWE-00841-00201272-00201438 twitter AKyT4xDvEWE-00842-00201439-00201623 instagram AKyT4xDvEWE-00843-00201624-00201831 and of course our youtube channel that AKyT4xDvEWE-00844-00201832-00202038 live streams um AKyT4xDvEWE-00845-00202039-00202278 every dive that we uh AKyT4xDvEWE-00846-00202279-00202519 carry out speaking of instagram kanella AKyT4xDvEWE-00847-00202520-00202695 was over here was blowing up the gram AKyT4xDvEWE-00848-00202696-00202854 earlier AKyT4xDvEWE-00849-00202855-00203111 he had a gram takeover how did that go AKyT4xDvEWE-00850-00203112-00203383 kind of yeah it's still going it's still AKyT4xDvEWE-00851-00203384-00203647 going here we go but yeah check it out AKyT4xDvEWE-00852-00203648-00203719 it AKyT4xDvEWE-00853-00203720-00203895 just AKyT4xDvEWE-00854-00203896-00204095 i guess talks about showing some AKyT4xDvEWE-00855-00204096-00204287 pictures and stuff of AKyT4xDvEWE-00856-00204288-00205398 a daily AKyT4xDvEWE-00857-00205400-00205542 that's just what the salvo is going to AKyT4xDvEWE-00858-00205544-00205798 bring up now AKyT4xDvEWE-00859-00205800-00205903 i can AKyT4xDvEWE-00860-00205904-00206151 i can switch it for you AKyT4xDvEWE-00861-00206152-00206438 and we even there you go AKyT4xDvEWE-00862-00206439-00206679 now you're happier yes AKyT4xDvEWE-00863-00206680-00206998 we even have interactions going on in AKyT4xDvEWE-00864-00207000-00207214 hawaii the hawaiian language and we're AKyT4xDvEWE-00865-00207215-00207462 communicating with merchant schools AKyT4xDvEWE-00866-00207463-00207694 in hawaii that's the first time ever AKyT4xDvEWE-00867-00207696-00207879 that's happened from this kind of AKyT4xDvEWE-00868-00207880-00208055 platform AKyT4xDvEWE-00869-00208056-00208190 you know we have AKyT4xDvEWE-00870-00208191-00208286 a AKyT4xDvEWE-00871-00208287-00208679 fluent uh speaker in hawaiian kalama AKyT4xDvEWE-00872-00208680-00208927 who has been doing some of these classes AKyT4xDvEWE-00873-00208928-00208998 and AKyT4xDvEWE-00874-00209000-00209142 you know assisting with some of the AKyT4xDvEWE-00875-00209144-00209246 cultural AKyT4xDvEWE-00876-00209248-00209606 protocols and and talking about hawaiian AKyT4xDvEWE-00877-00209607-00209871 cosmology and the importance of this AKyT4xDvEWE-00878-00209871-00210055 place culturally to AKyT4xDvEWE-00879-00210056-00210255 to native hawaiians the people of this AKyT4xDvEWE-00880-00210256-00210455 place and AKyT4xDvEWE-00881-00210456-00210751 um and we have many people on shore who AKyT4xDvEWE-00882-00210752-00210958 participate in that a cultural working AKyT4xDvEWE-00883-00210959-00211079 group that's involved with AKyT4xDvEWE-00884-00211080-00211303 papahanaumokuakea AKyT4xDvEWE-00885-00211304-00211551 many hawaiian language experts from AKyT4xDvEWE-00886-00211552-00211742 universities and community colleges AKyT4xDvEWE-00887-00211744-00211982 around hawaii who participated in AKyT4xDvEWE-00888-00211983-00212127 giving a hawaiian name to this AKyT4xDvEWE-00889-00212128-00212358 expedition and also AKyT4xDvEWE-00890-00212359-00212655 including many hawaiian terms AKyT4xDvEWE-00891-00212656-00212903 in our mission here AKyT4xDvEWE-00892-00212904-00213215 so it's it's it's multi-disciplinary on AKyT4xDvEWE-00893-00213216-00213439 so many different levels AKyT4xDvEWE-00894-00213440-00213671 and i mean just the great thing about it AKyT4xDvEWE-00895-00213671-00213782 is the AKyT4xDvEWE-00896-00213783-00213967 you know the incredible reciprocal AKyT4xDvEWE-00897-00213967-00214255 respect everybody has for everything AKyT4xDvEWE-00898-00214256-00214479 else you know i think i think that AKyT4xDvEWE-00899-00214480-00214679 everybody appreciates the these AKyT4xDvEWE-00900-00214680-00214982 different aspects and um AKyT4xDvEWE-00901-00214983-00215263 and just wants to learn you know that's AKyT4xDvEWE-00902-00215264-00215431 that's one of the coolest things for me AKyT4xDvEWE-00903-00215432-00215615 about being on this expedition is just AKyT4xDvEWE-00904-00215616-00215775 being out with AKyT4xDvEWE-00905-00215776-00215991 so many people that have a passion for AKyT4xDvEWE-00906-00215992-00216223 just learning and AKyT4xDvEWE-00907-00216223-00216398 you know learning new things like you AKyT4xDvEWE-00908-00216400-00216598 know i walked up earlier and AKyT4xDvEWE-00909-00216600-00216831 on the table out of the deck uh chris is AKyT4xDvEWE-00910-00216832-00217055 getting a tutorial from one of our AKyT4xDvEWE-00911-00217056-00217303 expert videographers on board about some AKyT4xDvEWE-00912-00217304-00217551 tips about how to photograph birds AKyT4xDvEWE-00913-00217552-00217734 you know and things like that are going AKyT4xDvEWE-00914-00217735-00217903 on all over the ship AKyT4xDvEWE-00915-00217904-00218239 uh the entire time so it's um AKyT4xDvEWE-00916-00218240-00218391 you know it's just such a dynamic AKyT4xDvEWE-00917-00218392-00218575 environment AKyT4xDvEWE-00918-00218576-00218958 all right so let's learn something from AKyT4xDvEWE-00919-00218959-00219382 elisa do we have some questions yeah uh AKyT4xDvEWE-00920-00219383-00219598 katherine from arizona wants to know AKyT4xDvEWE-00921-00219600-00219831 what's your favorite sponge AKyT4xDvEWE-00922-00219832-00220039 my favorite sponge yeah AKyT4xDvEWE-00923-00220040-00220191 i guess she wants to know everybody's AKyT4xDvEWE-00924-00220192-00220494 favorite sponge okay let me think AKyT4xDvEWE-00925-00220496-00220767 let me think AKyT4xDvEWE-00926-00220767-00220958 oh boy AKyT4xDvEWE-00927-00220959-00221192 do you have many favorites AKyT4xDvEWE-00928-00221194-00221398 [Laughter] AKyT4xDvEWE-00929-00221400-00221615 well you know the the issue the issue AKyT4xDvEWE-00930-00221616-00221898 here is which is my favorite sponge AKyT4xDvEWE-00931-00221900-00222063 microscopically AKyT4xDvEWE-00932-00222064-00222271 uh what type of spicules i really like AKyT4xDvEWE-00933-00222271-00222471 to look at and which is my favorite AKyT4xDvEWE-00934-00222471-00222687 sponge sort of their colonial appearance AKyT4xDvEWE-00935-00222688-00222910 appearances and what are specules again AKyT4xDvEWE-00936-00222911-00223191 speculators are the microscopic parts of AKyT4xDvEWE-00937-00223192-00223415 sponges that are made of silica and AKyT4xDvEWE-00938-00223416-00223646 these and specifically we're seeing AKyT4xDvEWE-00939-00223648-00223871 almost exclusively glass sponges so AKyT4xDvEWE-00940-00223871-00224055 these spicules are made of AKyT4xDvEWE-00941-00224056-00224342 almost exclusively of silica or glass AKyT4xDvEWE-00942-00224344-00224558 particles if you will you think about AKyT4xDvEWE-00943-00224559-00224727 that that's pretty remarkable that AKyT4xDvEWE-00944-00224728-00224903 you've got an animal down here that AKyT4xDvEWE-00945-00224904-00225151 actually could secrete and produce AKyT4xDvEWE-00946-00225152-00225482 glass and creates a glass skeletal AKyT4xDvEWE-00947-00225483-00225998 elements so um AKyT4xDvEWE-00948-00226000-00226182 okay go to another question and i'm AKyT4xDvEWE-00949-00226183-00226382 going to think about that what can i say AKyT4xDvEWE-00950-00226383-00226551 my favorite one yeah what's your AKyT4xDvEWE-00951-00226552-00226751 favorite one you can say your favorite AKyT4xDvEWE-00952-00226752-00226951 one yeah i think my favorite one is the AKyT4xDvEWE-00953-00226952-00227151 color ficus AKyT4xDvEWE-00954-00227152-00227487 because it's so tall AKyT4xDvEWE-00955-00227488-00227615 and AKyT4xDvEWE-00956-00227616-00227767 i don't think i can bring it into my AKyT4xDvEWE-00957-00227767-00227903 classroom AKyT4xDvEWE-00958-00227904-00228071 no you could i don't think you can AKyT4xDvEWE-00959-00228071-00228271 because i don't have an ocean in there AKyT4xDvEWE-00960-00228271-00228463 you can't get in your car yeah it's just AKyT4xDvEWE-00961-00228464-00228663 amazing when you look at the AKyT4xDvEWE-00962-00228664-00228903 indentations of that AKyT4xDvEWE-00963-00228904-00229215 sponge it has so many little rooms for AKyT4xDvEWE-00964-00229216-00229406 different kinds of AKyT4xDvEWE-00965-00229407-00229694 crabs and critters to live in it it's AKyT4xDvEWE-00966-00229696-00229903 really a habitat AKyT4xDvEWE-00967-00229904-00230031 for AKyT4xDvEWE-00968-00230032-00230246 organism it could be a whole ecosystem AKyT4xDvEWE-00969-00230248-00230494 for tiny little organisms AKyT4xDvEWE-00970-00230496-00230703 and i don't even know what's AKyT4xDvEWE-00971-00230704-00230871 supporting AKyT4xDvEWE-00972-00230871-00231263 such sponges in terms of microbiology AKyT4xDvEWE-00973-00231264-00231558 uh ecosystem microbiological ecosystems AKyT4xDvEWE-00974-00231559-00231703 in there too AKyT4xDvEWE-00975-00231704-00231887 but um AKyT4xDvEWE-00976-00231888-00232094 yeah that's my favorite sponge how about AKyT4xDvEWE-00977-00232096-00232398 andy what's your favorite sponge i have AKyT4xDvEWE-00978-00232400-00232623 i have to go with those large califacus AKyT4xDvEWE-00979-00232623-00232855 as well i mean i i'm just blown away AKyT4xDvEWE-00980-00232856-00233031 that you have this AKyT4xDvEWE-00981-00233032-00233327 you know several foot long stock AKyT4xDvEWE-00982-00233328-00233575 attached to this incredibly bulbous head AKyT4xDvEWE-00983-00233576-00233775 that's like you know three and a half AKyT4xDvEWE-00984-00233776-00233958 feet across AKyT4xDvEWE-00985-00233959-00234158 uh and it just sits there in the water AKyT4xDvEWE-00986-00234159-00234263 column AKyT4xDvEWE-00987-00234264-00234487 and that these organisms have adapted to AKyT4xDvEWE-00988-00234488-00234742 that strategy i mean what a way AKyT4xDvEWE-00989-00234744-00234934 actually a question just came to mind AKyT4xDvEWE-00990-00234935-00235079 when i was thinking about that i was AKyT4xDvEWE-00991-00235080-00235198 like AKyT4xDvEWE-00992-00235200-00235582 why is that bulbous head AKyT4xDvEWE-00993-00235583-00235791 why is it why is it sitting up in the AKyT4xDvEWE-00994-00235792-00236006 water column and certainly the stem AKyT4xDvEWE-00995-00236007-00236319 can't support that is there some kind of AKyT4xDvEWE-00996-00236319-00236527 some kind of floatation going on inside AKyT4xDvEWE-00997-00236528-00236751 the the head well that probably isn't AKyT4xDvEWE-00998-00236752-00237031 that heavy in water yeah yeah probably AKyT4xDvEWE-00999-00237032-00237182 is so it's AKyT4xDvEWE-01000-00237183-00237358 yeah i would imagine that's the stem AKyT4xDvEWE-01001-00237359-00237558 isn't the stem is probably keeping the AKyT4xDvEWE-01002-00237559-00237710 head from blowing away when you've got AKyT4xDvEWE-01003-00237711-00237951 strong current yeah but i i think i've AKyT4xDvEWE-01004-00237952-00238142 i've got i've got my favorite sponge AKyT4xDvEWE-01005-00238144-00238310 that'll challenge yours it's also a AKyT4xDvEWE-01006-00238311-00238567 stock sponge oh yeah yeah adventure AKyT4xDvEWE-01007-00238567-00238910 magnifica which is the AKyT4xDvEWE-01008-00238911-00239246 googly eyed et spell the et species it's AKyT4xDvEWE-01009-00239248-00239415 really cute too well ladies and AKyT4xDvEWE-01010-00239416-00239631 gentlemen i'm to be spelled here by AKyT4xDvEWE-01011-00239632-00239823 emily our expedition leader and i'm AKyT4xDvEWE-01012-00239823-00239991 going to go get something to eat that's AKyT4xDvEWE-01013-00239992-00240134 e-t AKyT4xDvEWE-01014-00240135-00240319 magnifica AKyT4xDvEWE-01015-00240319-00240551 does that not look like e.t AKyT4xDvEWE-01016-00240552-00240671 yeah AKyT4xDvEWE-01017-00240671-00240934 it looks magnificent yes thank you and i AKyT4xDvEWE-01018-00240935-00241110 think that's why the researchers who AKyT4xDvEWE-01019-00241111-00241319 recently described it and gave a name to AKyT4xDvEWE-01020-00241319-00241536 it call it that AKyT4xDvEWE-01021-00241537-00241727 [Music] AKyT4xDvEWE-01022-00241728-00242039 anvina magnifica magnifica AKyT4xDvEWE-01023-00242040-00242839 i'm gonna go with that one AKyT4xDvEWE-01024-00242840-00243094 uh there was a question earlier in the AKyT4xDvEWE-01025-00243096-00243223 dive AKyT4xDvEWE-01026-00243223-00243519 uh why is it that the sema not all of AKyT4xDvEWE-01027-00243519-00243982 the sema mounts have a AKyT4xDvEWE-01028-00243983-00244182 flat top AKyT4xDvEWE-01029-00244183-00244430 because they never reach the surface AKyT4xDvEWE-01030-00244431-00244655 so their volcanoes essentially all of AKyT4xDvEWE-01031-00244656-00244934 these seamounts were volcanoes at one AKyT4xDvEWE-01032-00244935-00245127 point they were erupting from the AKyT4xDvEWE-01033-00245128-00245287 abyssal sea floor AKyT4xDvEWE-01034-00245288-00245534 the missile sea floor is 5 000 meters AKyT4xDvEWE-01035-00245535-00245646 down AKyT4xDvEWE-01036-00245648-00245991 and in some cases the eruptions were AKyT4xDvEWE-01037-00245992-00246246 produced so much lava that the volcano AKyT4xDvEWE-01038-00246248-00246439 actually broke the surface and became an AKyT4xDvEWE-01039-00246440-00246703 island at one point and then it finally AKyT4xDvEWE-01040-00246704-00246887 stopped and then you start getting AKyT4xDvEWE-01041-00246888-00247215 processes like reef growth and erosion AKyT4xDvEWE-01042-00247216-00247510 that tends to level off or plane off the AKyT4xDvEWE-01043-00247511-00247806 top of the cone of the volcano AKyT4xDvEWE-01044-00247807-00247903 and AKyT4xDvEWE-01045-00247904-00248094 then you wind up with these flat top AKyT4xDvEWE-01046-00248096-00248271 seamounts eventually that are called AKyT4xDvEWE-01047-00248271-00248519 geodes but these other ones AKyT4xDvEWE-01048-00248519-00248775 never reach the surface so they maintain AKyT4xDvEWE-01049-00248776-00249046 uh roughly that conical shape even AKyT4xDvEWE-01050-00249048-00249206 though there is a certain amount of AKyT4xDvEWE-01051-00249207-00249503 erosion that occurs underwater over AKyT4xDvEWE-01052-00249504-00249679 millions of years they still look AKyT4xDvEWE-01053-00249680-00249839 conical and they don't have that flat AKyT4xDvEWE-01054-00249840-00250063 top it's one way we can tell AKyT4xDvEWE-01055-00250064-00250287 you know a little bit about the history AKyT4xDvEWE-01056-00250288-00250551 of a seamount by mapping it and seeing AKyT4xDvEWE-01057-00250552-00250910 just what does the summit look like AKyT4xDvEWE-01058-00250911-00251103 so that's why AKyT4xDvEWE-01059-00251104-00253142 very interesting AKyT4xDvEWE-01060-00253144-00253598 come on AKyT4xDvEWE-01061-00253600-00253863 and aaron and navigation do you have a AKyT4xDvEWE-01062-00253864-00254011 favorite sponge or AKyT4xDvEWE-01063-00254012-00254158 [Music] AKyT4xDvEWE-01064-00254159-00254494 a coral i don't i i like the yellow AKyT4xDvEWE-01065-00254496-00254639 stocked one i guess i think that's AKyT4xDvEWE-01066-00254640-00255223 pretty cool the yellow just shows up oh AKyT4xDvEWE-01067-00255223-00255542 yeah that was pretty cool AKyT4xDvEWE-01068-00255544-00255687 great AKyT4xDvEWE-01069-00255688-00255942 and our expedition leader AKyT4xDvEWE-01070-00255944-00256279 emma petruccio has joined us AKyT4xDvEWE-01071-00256280-00256446 oh yeah ferdinand yup just filling in AKyT4xDvEWE-01072-00256448-00256703 for the dinner yeah thank you it's AKyT4xDvEWE-01073-00256704-00256934 really nice to have you on this watch AKyT4xDvEWE-01074-00256935-00257071 thank you AKyT4xDvEWE-01075-00257071-00257423 do you have a favorite sponge or coral AKyT4xDvEWE-01076-00257423-00257630 well you know uh the what immediately AKyT4xDvEWE-01077-00257631-00257871 comes to mind as the ones we saw along AKyT4xDvEWE-01078-00257871-00258030 the rim of the AKyT4xDvEWE-01079-00258031-00258151 canyon AKyT4xDvEWE-01080-00258152-00258391 uh rim of the volcanic crater on the AKyT4xDvEWE-01081-00258392-00258551 summit of AKyT4xDvEWE-01082-00258552-00258919 tamana AKyT4xDvEWE-01083-00258919-00259063 they were AKyT4xDvEWE-01084-00259064-00259319 calyptophora AKyT4xDvEWE-01085-00259319-00259551 something close to that clip trophy yeah AKyT4xDvEWE-01086-00259552-00259879 uh angularis angularis they were big AKyT4xDvEWE-01087-00259880-00260103 they were large and um but a good number AKyT4xDvEWE-01088-00260104-00260294 of them situated along the rim and AKyT4xDvEWE-01089-00260296-00260482 enjoying that current AKyT4xDvEWE-01090-00260483-00260775 flow um AKyT4xDvEWE-01091-00260776-00261063 they were they were very they're like AKyT4xDvEWE-01092-00261064-00261398 another one that's like a candelabra AKyT4xDvEWE-01093-00261400-00261671 oh yes so um AKyT4xDvEWE-01094-00261671-00261982 what do you particularly like about them AKyT4xDvEWE-01095-00261983-00262191 it's amazing how they so they spread it AKyT4xDvEWE-01096-00262192-00262358 they've got the branches that come out AKyT4xDvEWE-01097-00262359-00262575 horizontally and then from them AKyT4xDvEWE-01098-00262576-00262910 are vertical branches and the older ones AKyT4xDvEWE-01099-00262911-00263167 stop growing AKyT4xDvEWE-01100-00263168-00263358 seemingly to allow the younger ones to AKyT4xDvEWE-01101-00263359-00263582 catch up so you get this nice AKyT4xDvEWE-01102-00263583-00263943 level horizontally AKyT4xDvEWE-01103-00263944-00264151 nicely shaped AKyT4xDvEWE-01104-00264152-00264279 uh AKyT4xDvEWE-01105-00264280-00264439 cantaloupe or like a AKyT4xDvEWE-01106-00264440-00264710 fluke of a whale's tail AKyT4xDvEWE-01107-00264711-00264839 really nice design AKyT4xDvEWE-01108-00264840-00265534 yeah thank you for sharing that AKyT4xDvEWE-01109-00265535-00265679 do you guys see the little surprise AKyT4xDvEWE-01110-00265680-00265815 there yeah AKyT4xDvEWE-01111-00265816-00266119 that's what you were hiding AKyT4xDvEWE-01112-00266120-00266382 that looks like a tim burton creation AKyT4xDvEWE-01113-00266383-00266655 it's so crazy super cute AKyT4xDvEWE-01114-00266656-00266839 hey buddy AKyT4xDvEWE-01115-00266840-00267063 nightmare is that a rake a rake attached AKyT4xDvEWE-01116-00267064-00267471 to a tennis ball AKyT4xDvEWE-01117-00267472-00267710 uh it looks like a it could be a garden AKyT4xDvEWE-01118-00267711-00267943 right AKyT4xDvEWE-01119-00267944-00268143 nice telltale yeah what is it what is AKyT4xDvEWE-01120-00268144-00268279 this hole dan AKyT4xDvEWE-01121-00268280-00268582 it the it's a telltale so we can see AKyT4xDvEWE-01122-00268583-00268727 which way the current is flowing AKyT4xDvEWE-01123-00268728-00270327 [Laughter] AKyT4xDvEWE-01124-00270328-00270647 pigtails and uh and pans AKyT4xDvEWE-01125-00270648-00271055 very nice very nice is that its name AKyT4xDvEWE-01126-00271056-00271206 um it was AKyT4xDvEWE-01127-00271207-00271567 so last time it was dubbed uh AKyT4xDvEWE-01128-00271568-00271903 it had a different name because it AKyT4xDvEWE-01129-00271904-00272134 it didn't have the typical uh AKyT4xDvEWE-01130-00272135-00272382 yellow smiley face that AKyT4xDvEWE-01131-00272383-00272487 you see AKyT4xDvEWE-01132-00272488-00272703 one of our viewers is asking what needs AKyT4xDvEWE-01133-00272704-00272806 a new name AKyT4xDvEWE-01134-00272807-00273158 did mark approve that before lunch AKyT4xDvEWE-01135-00273159-00273447 what's that did mark approve this did AKyT4xDvEWE-01136-00273448-00273695 you sneak it on it was uh AKyT4xDvEWE-01137-00273696-00273801 it was some sneaky AKyT4xDvEWE-01138-00273802-00273999 [Laughter] AKyT4xDvEWE-01139-00274000-00274263 unapproved AKyT4xDvEWE-01140-00274264-00274503 what's that guys that name it needs a AKyT4xDvEWE-01141-00274504-00274679 new name yeah AKyT4xDvEWE-01142-00274680-00274879 it's uh doesn't have a name at the AKyT4xDvEWE-01143-00274880-00275134 moment AKyT4xDvEWE-01144-00275135-00275367 so it's actually a rov tool that was AKyT4xDvEWE-01145-00275368-00275606 used as a AKyT4xDvEWE-01146-00275607-00275830 you can see it has three legs there AKyT4xDvEWE-01147-00275831-00276110 once i tried it uh rake it was used to AKyT4xDvEWE-01148-00276111-00276303 rake some uh AKyT4xDvEWE-01149-00276304-00276543 clams into a scoop i believe it's been AKyT4xDvEWE-01150-00276544-00276734 hanging around in the rov shop for AKyT4xDvEWE-01151-00276735-00276943 that's a trident it could be a AKyT4xDvEWE-01152-00276944-00277503 pigtail poseidon AKyT4xDvEWE-01153-00277504-00277687 this is definitely making me smile AKyT4xDvEWE-01154-00277688-00278006 that's great AKyT4xDvEWE-01155-00278007-00278182 i think it'll have many names by the end AKyT4xDvEWE-01156-00278183-00278415 of the night AKyT4xDvEWE-01157-00278416-00278830 in case that doesn't work there's AKyT4xDvEWE-01158-00278831-00278999 oh it doesn't work AKyT4xDvEWE-01159-00279000-00279334 some on the uh craft as well AKyT4xDvEWE-01160-00279335-00279551 these are our flow meters AKyT4xDvEWE-01161-00279552-00279743 yeah AKyT4xDvEWE-01162-00279744-00279943 that's like poor man it's like hers AKyT4xDvEWE-01163-00279944-00280103 going to a party AKyT4xDvEWE-01164-00280104-00280510 all decorated AKyT4xDvEWE-01165-00280511-00281071 oh thank you AKyT4xDvEWE-01166-00281072-00281247 i would have expected at this descent AKyT4xDvEWE-01167-00281248-00284119 rate more deflection on the uh AKyT4xDvEWE-01169-00293752-00293958 my favorite is someone on here is asking AKyT4xDvEWE-01170-00293959-00294334 if mark approved the that before launch AKyT4xDvEWE-01171-00294335-00294567 yeah we got that question AKyT4xDvEWE-01172-00294568-00294751 it was decided that it was snuck on at AKyT4xDvEWE-01173-00294752-00295134 the left AKyT4xDvEWE-01174-00295135-00295327 if mark spotted it he didn't say AKyT4xDvEWE-01175-00295328-00295551 anything he just shook his head and he AKyT4xDvEWE-01176-00295552-00295791 probably did and walked away AKyT4xDvEWE-01178-00298888-00299015 i wonder if somebody's going to try to AKyT4xDvEWE-01179-00299016-00299239 eat it AKyT4xDvEWE-01180-00299240-00299415 squid might attack it could be a AKyT4xDvEWE-01181-00299416-00299582 predation event yeah we can get a AKyT4xDvEWE-01182-00299583-00301791 predation event AKyT4xDvEWE-01183-00301792-00302095 so andrea how did the rocks look from AKyT4xDvEWE-01184-00302096-00302287 uh euphemia AKyT4xDvEWE-01185-00302288-00302479 pretty good sovereign yeah some of them AKyT4xDvEWE-01186-00302480-00302543 are AKyT4xDvEWE-01187-00302544-00302719 really encrusted but they're big enough AKyT4xDvEWE-01188-00302720-00302951 that i have hope that there's a AKyT4xDvEWE-01189-00302952-00303127 uh AKyT4xDvEWE-01190-00303128-00303382 crystalline core why do they not turn on AKyT4xDvEWE-01191-00303383-00303654 that argus altimeter AKyT4xDvEWE-01192-00303655-00303823 i don't know AKyT4xDvEWE-01193-00303824-00304039 very little AKyT4xDvEWE-01194-00304040-00304863 interfere somehow or AKyT4xDvEWE-01195-00304864-00305647 no no ground fault on it AKyT4xDvEWE-01196-00305648-00305999 what's that AKyT4xDvEWE-01197-00306000-00306158 no AKyT4xDvEWE-01198-00306159-00306367 don't we often find it turned off which AKyT4xDvEWE-01199-00306368-00306623 is AKyT4xDvEWE-01200-00306624-00308919 serious AKyT4xDvEWE-01201-00308920-00309119 did anyone see the shark today AKyT4xDvEWE-01202-00309120-00309471 i did not did you no just asking AKyT4xDvEWE-01203-00309472-00309654 was it a launch or recovery shark or AKyT4xDvEWE-01204-00309655-00309871 just a general trick just a jet well AKyT4xDvEWE-01205-00309872-00310103 we've been seeing a white tip shark yeah AKyT4xDvEWE-01206-00310104-00310279 probably different ones but maybe over AKyT4xDvEWE-01207-00310280-00310454 the past few dives but nothing today i AKyT4xDvEWE-01208-00310455-00310599 think uh AKyT4xDvEWE-01209-00310600-00310734 yeah we saw one AKyT4xDvEWE-01210-00310735-00310927 during the AKyT4xDvEWE-01211-00310928-00311182 extravaganza yesterday AKyT4xDvEWE-01212-00311183-00312439 pretty close it was pretty cool AKyT4xDvEWE-01213-00312440-00312615 i don't even know if i was outside today AKyT4xDvEWE-01214-00312616-00312887 what is this day what day is that monday AKyT4xDvEWE-01215-00312888-00313054 oh my gosh AKyT4xDvEWE-01216-00313055-00313303 cyber monday AKyT4xDvEWE-01217-00313304-00313543 oh yeah cyber monday AKyT4xDvEWE-01218-00313544-00313871 it's officially the last full week of AKyT4xDvEWE-01219-00313872-00314399 this expedition too oh yes AKyT4xDvEWE-01220-00314400-00316482 just flew by AKyT4xDvEWE-01221-00316483-00316663 howdy AKyT4xDvEWE-01222-00316664-00316919 this one's pretty shallow right AKyT4xDvEWE-01223-00316920-00317191 uh not terribly uh we'll go AKyT4xDvEWE-01224-00317192-00317754 1990 meters to begin AKyT4xDvEWE-01225-00317755-00317934 1862 AKyT4xDvEWE-01226-00317935-00318167 to end not much of a depth change just AKyT4xDvEWE-01227-00318168-00318871 kind of going along a ridge AKyT4xDvEWE-01228-00318872-00319071 it's weird to go to the AKyT4xDvEWE-01229-00319072-00319223 shallow end first AKyT4xDvEWE-01230-00319224-00319519 what AKyT4xDvEWE-01231-00319520-00319791 i love it i know you must have made it AKyT4xDvEWE-01232-00319792-00319967 it was you right AKyT4xDvEWE-01233-00319968-00320199 i love it AKyT4xDvEWE-01234-00320200-00320351 it makes me feel like my hair is AKyT4xDvEWE-01235-00320352-00320654 acceptable AKyT4xDvEWE-01236-00320655-00320887 we're actually we're going to a deeper AKyT4xDvEWE-01237-00320888-00321199 and uh it looks like we would be going AKyT4xDvEWE-01238-00321200-00321415 deeper with the dive progression because AKyT4xDvEWE-01239-00321416-00321575 we're going away from the main summit AKyT4xDvEWE-01240-00321576-00321791 but we are going towards a local AKyT4xDvEWE-01241-00321792-00321919 high in the AKyT4xDvEWE-01242-00321920-00322079 cemetery so AKyT4xDvEWE-01243-00322080-00322639 so it'll be a mild climb AKyT4xDvEWE-01244-00322640-00322791 yeah we haven't done this i'm wondering AKyT4xDvEWE-01245-00322792-00322982 what we're gonna get AKyT4xDvEWE-01246-00322983-00323263 what is its orientation to the um AKyT4xDvEWE-01247-00323264-00323703 to the uh hawaiian ridge AKyT4xDvEWE-01248-00323704-00324095 and we don't have the bigger map AKyT4xDvEWE-01249-00324096-00324503 yes we do AKyT4xDvEWE-01250-00324504-00324671 emma we have a question of what's the AKyT4xDvEWE-01251-00324672-00324903 estimated time of arrival to the sea AKyT4xDvEWE-01252-00324904-00325063 floor how long does it think we've got AKyT4xDvEWE-01253-00325064-00325310 about 15 minutes 11 minutes and seven AKyT4xDvEWE-01254-00325311-00325407 seconds AKyT4xDvEWE-01255-00325408-00325543 [Music] AKyT4xDvEWE-01256-00325544-00325943 get this out of you AKyT4xDvEWE-01257-00325944-00326247 she was our cheerleader AKyT4xDvEWE-01258-00326248-00326463 yeah so we're oriented almost parallel AKyT4xDvEWE-01259-00326464-00326582 to the AKyT4xDvEWE-01260-00326583-00326863 hawaiian ridge should be interesting AKyT4xDvEWE-01261-00326864-00327215 yeah yeah yeah it doesn't seem to be AKyT4xDvEWE-01262-00327216-00327423 i always wonder how much the bigger sea AKyT4xDvEWE-01263-00327424-00327606 mounts like i wonder how much AKyT4xDvEWE-01264-00327607-00328151 the tide is affected by gardiner AKyT4xDvEWE-01265-00328152-00328247 right AKyT4xDvEWE-01266-00328248-00328423 i mean that whole ridge yeah yeah the AKyT4xDvEWE-01267-00328424-00328647 whole ridge is AKyT4xDvEWE-01268-00328648-00328830 productive but there are hot spots and i AKyT4xDvEWE-01269-00328831-00329263 forget where they are AKyT4xDvEWE-01270-00329264-00329447 i remember when i learned in class the AKyT4xDvEWE-01271-00329448-00329582 the ice caps have their own AKyT4xDvEWE-01272-00329583-00329823 gravitational pull on the ocean and it AKyT4xDvEWE-01273-00329824-00330015 blew my mind AKyT4xDvEWE-01274-00330016-00330247 we are now getting to the point nasa has AKyT4xDvEWE-01275-00330248-00330463 some models that can show how sea level AKyT4xDvEWE-01276-00330464-00330782 will change regionally as a result of AKyT4xDvEWE-01277-00330783-00331006 ice melt and AKyT4xDvEWE-01278-00331007-00331191 maryland's not going to do so well huh AKyT4xDvEWE-01279-00331192-00331327 so well AKyT4xDvEWE-01280-00331328-00331454 so AKyT4xDvEWE-01281-00331455-00331654 the melt from greenland will affect AKyT4xDvEWE-01282-00331655-00331882 maryland less than the melt from AKyT4xDvEWE-01283-00331883-00332191 antarctica if i have that right because AKyT4xDvEWE-01284-00332192-00332415 there's less gravitational pull of AKyT4xDvEWE-01285-00332416-00332599 greenland for that ice melt it'll go AKyT4xDvEWE-01286-00332600-00332806 away yeah the spin of the earth will AKyT4xDvEWE-01287-00332807-00332887 help AKyT4xDvEWE-01288-00332888-00333182 move that elsewhere but we will feel AKyT4xDvEWE-01289-00333183-00333430 and you're also experiencing isostatic AKyT4xDvEWE-01290-00333431-00333727 adjustment in maryland from the AKyT4xDvEWE-01291-00333728-00333999 continental deglaciation right about so AKyT4xDvEWE-01292-00334000-00334230 about seven inches a century AKyT4xDvEWE-01293-00334231-00334343 plus AKyT4xDvEWE-01294-00334344-00334623 the absolute sea level rise so AKyT4xDvEWE-01295-00334624-00334951 we've seen about 14 inches over the past AKyT4xDvEWE-01296-00334952-00335110 century AKyT4xDvEWE-01297-00335111-00335230 it's a lot AKyT4xDvEWE-01298-00335231-00335327 yeah AKyT4xDvEWE-01299-00335328-00335439 so it's the AKyT4xDvEWE-01300-00335440-00335606 chesapeake bay is filled to the brim now AKyT4xDvEWE-01301-00335607-00336047 and it doesn't take much to spill over AKyT4xDvEWE-01302-00336048-00336343 some just decent sailing weather some AKyT4xDvEWE-01303-00336344-00336599 winds from the south for half a day uh AKyT4xDvEWE-01304-00336600-00336687 and AKyT4xDvEWE-01305-00336688-00336806 start to get AKyT4xDvEWE-01306-00336807-00337158 an extra foot on top of high tide AKyT4xDvEWE-01307-00337159-00337358 that can cause some low level AKyT4xDvEWE-01308-00337359-00337791 flooding of low level roads AKyT4xDvEWE-01309-00337792-00337943 yeah most people don't know that long AKyT4xDvEWE-01310-00337944-00338406 island is actually a moraine AKyT4xDvEWE-01311-00338407-00338615 because continental guys got all the way AKyT4xDvEWE-01312-00338616-00339071 down there you know pile of rubble AKyT4xDvEWE-01313-00339072-00339663 [Music] AKyT4xDvEWE-01314-00339664-00339854 so yeah it's complicated because you'd AKyT4xDvEWE-01315-00339855-00340023 get the internal wave energy coming from AKyT4xDvEWE-01316-00340024-00340175 the ridge but you'll also have local AKyT4xDvEWE-01317-00340176-00340454 wave generation maybe over this yeah AKyT4xDvEWE-01318-00340455-00340654 smaller ridge so AKyT4xDvEWE-01319-00340655-00340863 and this is the one that looks most AKyT4xDvEWE-01320-00340864-00341047 parallel to anything we've seen to the AKyT4xDvEWE-01321-00341048-00341182 ridge itself AKyT4xDvEWE-01322-00341183-00341606 and longest AKyT4xDvEWE-01323-00341607-00341958 so it will be an interesting experiment AKyT4xDvEWE-01324-00341959-00342182 good thing we have our current indicator AKyT4xDvEWE-01325-00342183-00342575 on there AKyT4xDvEWE-01326-00342576-00342806 now we might see that poly AKyT4xDvEWE-01327-00342807-00343047 hair waving in the AKyT4xDvEWE-01328-00343048-00343230 waving in the AKyT4xDvEWE-01329-00343231-00343367 cheering us on AKyT4xDvEWE-01330-00343368-00344399 go team go AKyT4xDvEWE-01331-00344400-00344567 so it looks like this is an interesting AKyT4xDvEWE-01332-00344568-00344775 view AKyT4xDvEWE-01333-00344776-00345023 of that ridge looks like it bifurcates AKyT4xDvEWE-01334-00345024-00345103 there AKyT4xDvEWE-01335-00345104-00345247 yeah and AKyT4xDvEWE-01336-00345248-00345406 it almost looks i know it's farther away AKyT4xDvEWE-01337-00345407-00345630 but a little bit flat AKyT4xDvEWE-01338-00345631-00346263 yeah at top AKyT4xDvEWE-01339-00346264-00346510 all right i bid you a good rest of the AKyT4xDvEWE-01340-00346511-00346830 watch andy is back AKyT4xDvEWE-01341-00346831-00347415 dinner time AKyT4xDvEWE-01342-00347416-00347639 i have a few viewers asking what is AKyT4xDvEWE-01343-00347640-00347871 coming up next for the ship now that AKyT4xDvEWE-01344-00347872-00348047 this expedition is AKyT4xDvEWE-01345-00348048-00348303 on its last week uh we'll finish up here AKyT4xDvEWE-01346-00348304-00348615 we are expecting some AKyT4xDvEWE-01347-00348616-00348847 weather at the end of the week so we AKyT4xDvEWE-01348-00348848-00349015 will be AKyT4xDvEWE-01349-00349016-00349327 diving this dive and i believe one more AKyT4xDvEWE-01350-00349328-00349558 uh dive for this expedition and then we AKyT4xDvEWE-01351-00349559-00349710 will have to transit AKyT4xDvEWE-01352-00349711-00349903 south and then back AKyT4xDvEWE-01353-00349904-00350039 towards AKyT4xDvEWE-01354-00350040-00350151 the AKyT4xDvEWE-01355-00350152-00350399 main islands just so we can avoid some AKyT4xDvEWE-01356-00350400-00350639 of the weather AKyT4xDvEWE-01357-00350640-00350863 but our next expedition you can find on AKyT4xDvEWE-01358-00350864-00351151 nautilus live under expeditions we'll be AKyT4xDvEWE-01359-00351152-00351358 heading out for 12 days to the AKyT4xDvEWE-01360-00351359-00351551 chautauqua sea mounts AKyT4xDvEWE-01361-00351552-00351695 which is AKyT4xDvEWE-01362-00351696-00351927 a seamount chain that has not been AKyT4xDvEWE-01363-00351928-00352199 surveyed by rovs before so we're excited AKyT4xDvEWE-01364-00352200-00352287 to AKyT4xDvEWE-01365-00352288-00352463 go be the first eyes AKyT4xDvEWE-01366-00352464-00352678 on this location AKyT4xDvEWE-01367-00352679-00352839 and that will start AKyT4xDvEWE-01368-00352840-00352951 on AKyT4xDvEWE-01369-00352952-00353439 next wednesday AKyT4xDvEWE-01370-00353440-00353743 or the wednesday after next AKyT4xDvEWE-01371-00353744-00353910 yeah not this not AKyT4xDvEWE-01372-00353911-00354119 two days the next wednesday today's AKyT4xDvEWE-01373-00354120-00354282 tuesday or is it AKyT4xDvEWE-01374-00354283-00354423 wednesday day is today AKyT4xDvEWE-01375-00354424-00354734 it doesn't really matter it's monday AKyT4xDvEWE-01376-00354735-00355406 it is monday AKyT4xDvEWE-01377-00355407-00355615 tend to lose track of the day AKyT4xDvEWE-01378-00355616-00355743 time AKyT4xDvEWE-01379-00355744-00355910 let's check everything AKyT4xDvEWE-01380-00355911-00356103 it's friday it might be it is it's AKyT4xDvEWE-01381-00356104-00356271 friday at eight and morning isn't it AKyT4xDvEWE-01382-00356272-00356487 aloha friday AKyT4xDvEWE-01383-00356488-00356839 oh do i have that wrong AKyT4xDvEWE-01384-00356840-00357006 it might be off by a couple days but AKyT4xDvEWE-01385-00357007-00357087 heck AKyT4xDvEWE-01386-00357088-00357295 rounding error feels the same AKyT4xDvEWE-01387-00357296-00357430 uh-huh AKyT4xDvEWE-01388-00357431-00357719 so do we get weekends off no what AKyT4xDvEWE-01389-00357720-00357815 we don't AKyT4xDvEWE-01390-00357816-00358103 we don't get weekends off nope AKyT4xDvEWE-01391-00358104-00358406 i needed to read the fine print AKyT4xDvEWE-01392-00358407-00358734 you didn't read that no oh man AKyT4xDvEWE-01393-00358735-00358948 do i want weekends off no AKyT4xDvEWE-01394-00358949-00359254 [Laughter] AKyT4xDvEWE-01395-00359255-00359943 there is a cool map look at that AKyT4xDvEWE-01396-00359944-00360272 looks like an underwater golf course