FWdoEhtt2Oy-00000-00000104-00000295 eastern canada also the eastern FWdoEhtt2Oy-00001-00000296-00000519 provinces is generally considered to be FWdoEhtt2Oy-00002-00000520-00000734 the region of canada east of manitoba FWdoEhtt2Oy-00003-00000735-00001015 consisting of the following provinces FWdoEhtt2Oy-00004-00001016-00001183 new brunswick FWdoEhtt2Oy-00005-00001184-00001407 newfoundland and labrador FWdoEhtt2Oy-00006-00001408-00001582 nova scotia FWdoEhtt2Oy-00007-00001583-00001751 ontario FWdoEhtt2Oy-00008-00001752-00001955 prince edward island FWdoEhtt2Oy-00009-00001955-00002199 quebecontario and quebec define central FWdoEhtt2Oy-00010-00002200-00002367 canada while the other provinces FWdoEhtt2Oy-00011-00002368-00002583 constitute atlantic canada FWdoEhtt2Oy-00012-00002584-00002815 new brunswick nova scotia and prince FWdoEhtt2Oy-00013-00002816-00002991 edward island are also known as the FWdoEhtt2Oy-00014-00002992-00003535 maritime provinces FWdoEhtt2Oy-00015-00003536-00003975 capitals FWdoEhtt2Oy-00016-00003976-00004215 ottawa canada's capital is located in FWdoEhtt2Oy-00017-00004216-00004399 eastern canada within the province of FWdoEhtt2Oy-00018-00004400-00004559 ontario FWdoEhtt2Oy-00019-00004560-00004759 the capitals of the provinces are in the FWdoEhtt2Oy-00020-00004760-00004919 list below FWdoEhtt2Oy-00021-00004920-00005151 new brunswick fredericton FWdoEhtt2Oy-00022-00005152-00005463 newfoundland and labrador st johns FWdoEhtt2Oy-00023-00005464-00005718 nova scotia halifax FWdoEhtt2Oy-00024-00005719-00005951 ontario toronto FWdoEhtt2Oy-00025-00005952-00006231 prince edward island charlottetown FWdoEhtt2Oy-00026-00006232-00006823 quebec quebec city FWdoEhtt2Oy-00027-00006823-00007263 definitions FWdoEhtt2Oy-00028-00007264-00007470 the canadian press defines eastern FWdoEhtt2Oy-00029-00007472-00007646 canada as everything east of and FWdoEhtt2Oy-00030-00007647-00008255 including thunder bay ontario FWdoEhtt2Oy-00031-00008256-00008687 population FWdoEhtt2Oy-00032-00008688-00008903 the total population of this region is FWdoEhtt2Oy-00033-00008904-00009251 about FWdoEhtt2Oy-00034-00009252-00009663 23946177 in 2016 or about 70 of canada's FWdoEhtt2Oy-00035-00009664-00009799 population FWdoEhtt2Oy-00036-00009800-00009991 most of the population resides in FWdoEhtt2Oy-00037-00009992-00010255 ontario and quebec the region contains FWdoEhtt2Oy-00038-00010256-00010431 three of canada's five largest FWdoEhtt2Oy-00039-00010432-00010655 metropolitan areas toronto being the FWdoEhtt2Oy-00040-00010656-00010863 fourth largest municipality in north FWdoEhtt2Oy-00041-00010864-00011014 america FWdoEhtt2Oy-00042-00011015-00011287 largest metropolitan areas FWdoEhtt2Oy-00043-00011288-00011887 toronto ontario 6254191 FWdoEhtt2Oy-00044-00011888-00012414 montreal quebec 4098927 FWdoEhtt2Oy-00045-00012415-00013127 ottawa gatineau ontario quebec 1500 FWdoEhtt2Oy-00046-00013128-00013566 quebec city quebec 807200 FWdoEhtt2Oy-00047-00013568-00014103 hamilton ontario 536917 FWdoEhtt2Oy-00048-00014104-00014647 london ontario 474786 FWdoEhtt2Oy-00049-00014647-00015255 saint catherine's niagara ontario 44788 FWdoEhtt2Oy-00050-00015256-00015750 kitchener ontario 4413 FWdoEhtt2Oy-00051-00015751-00016271 halifax nova scotia 403131 FWdoEhtt2Oy-00052-00016272-00016799 windsor ontario 329144 FWdoEhtt2Oy-00053-00016800-00017239 sherbrooke quebec 212105 FWdoEhtt2Oy-00054-00017240-00017619 st johns newfoundland and labrador FWdoEhtt2Oy-00055-00017620-00017894 205955 the population of each province FWdoEhtt2Oy-00056-00017895-00018239 in 2016. from greatest to least is here FWdoEhtt2Oy-00057-00018240-00018567 ontario 13448 FWdoEhtt2Oy-00058-00018568-00018783 4494 FWdoEhtt2Oy-00059-00018784-00019311 quebec 8164361 FWdoEhtt2Oy-00060-00019312-00019775 nova scotia 923 55988 FWdoEhtt2Oy-00061-00019776-00020230 new brunswick 747101 FWdoEhtt2Oy-00062-00020231-00020758 newfoundland and labrador 519716 FWdoEhtt2Oy-00063-00020759-00021591 prince edward island 14297 FWdoEhtt2Oy-00064-00021592-00022030 politics FWdoEhtt2Oy-00065-00022031-00022327 eastern canada is represented by 213 FWdoEhtt2Oy-00066-00022328-00022703 members of parliament 106 in ontario 75 FWdoEhtt2Oy-00067-00022704-00022919 in quebec and 32 in the atlantic FWdoEhtt2Oy-00068-00022920-00023622 provinces and 78 senators FWdoEhtt2Oy-00069-00023623-00024063 see also FWdoEhtt2Oy-00070-00024064-00024294 eastern united states FWdoEhtt2Oy-00071-00024295-00024863 list of regions of canada FWdoEhtt2Oy-00072-00024864-00025383 references FWdoEhtt2Oy-00073-00025384-00025846 external links FWdoEhtt2Oy-00074-00025847-00026046 media related to eastern canada at FWdoEhtt2Oy-00075-00026047-00026255 wikimedia commons FWdoEhtt2Oy-00076-00026256-00026446 the dictionary definition of eastern FWdoEhtt2Oy-00077-00026447-00026804 canada at wiktionary FYH0_AgPTnE-00000-00000504-00001044 [Music] FYH0_AgPTnE-00001-00001045-00001407 [Applause] FYH0_AgPTnE-00002-00001408-00001997 peggy 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do unto us fear of FZ2-0mlTkiM-00007-00001688-00001887 man bringeth forth a snare hey i don't FZ2-0mlTkiM-00008-00001888-00002095 know what 2022 is going to hold but we FZ2-0mlTkiM-00009-00002096-00002350 ought not be in fear of 2022. there are FZ2-0mlTkiM-00010-00002351-00002558 people who used to be out knocking doors FZ2-0mlTkiM-00011-00002559-00002831 but in fear of a virus have stopped FZ2-0mlTkiM-00012-00002832-00002991 there are people who used to gather in FZ2-0mlTkiM-00013-00002992-00003206 the house of god but because of fear of FZ2-0mlTkiM-00014-00003207-00003415 a virus they're sitting out there mad FZ2-0mlTkiM-00015-00003415-00003535 that you and i are still gathered FZ2-0mlTkiM-00016-00003536-00003663 together FZ2-0mlTkiM-00017-00003664-00003799 they're i'm telling you save your little FZ2-0mlTkiM-00018-00003800-00004006 heart hey you better you better believe FZ2-0mlTkiM-00019-00004007-00004247 i'm a little upset as a pastor of the FZ2-0mlTkiM-00020-00004248-00004535 church i'm seeing one after another fall FZ2-0mlTkiM-00021-00004536-00004767 by the wayside in the name of fear FZ2-0mlTkiM-00022-00004768-00004983 and they're justifying it by well pastor FZ2-0mlTkiM-00023-00004984-00005183 boyle took quite a hard stance on saying FZ2-0mlTkiM-00024-00005184-00005359 you had to go to church hey that's a FZ2-0mlTkiM-00025-00005360-00005518 bible stance FZ2-0mlTkiM-00026-00005519-00005751 okay and excuse me if the flock's a FZ2-0mlTkiM-00027-00005752-00005911 little fearful and we're up here by the FZ2-0mlTkiM-00028-00005912-00006127 pulpit rallying everybody saying hey FZ2-0mlTkiM-00029-00006128-00006399 full steam ahead hey don't get upset if FZ2-0mlTkiM-00030-00006400-00006542 we didn't make you feel comfortable by FZ2-0mlTkiM-00031-00006543-00006727 you sitting on the wayside FZ2-0mlTkiM-00032-00006728-00006839 amen FZ2-0mlTkiM-00033-00006840-00007214 fear paralyzes people fear stops people FZ2-0mlTkiM-00034-00007215-00007478 god did not give us the spirit of fear i FZ2-0mlTkiM-00035-00007479-00007783 can you imagine the the the the the talk FZ2-0mlTkiM-00036-00007784-00007967 or the message that would be given to FZ2-0mlTkiM-00037-00007968-00008191 people who are facing death for the FZ2-0mlTkiM-00038-00008192-00008423 cause of christ i mean can you imagine FZ2-0mlTkiM-00039-00008424-00008574 if they had the pastors that everybody FZ2-0mlTkiM-00040-00008575-00008799 wants today now you know it's your FZ2-0mlTkiM-00041-00008800-00008942 choice FZ2-0mlTkiM-00042-00008943-00009151 i would suggest you deny jesus and don't FZ2-0mlTkiM-00043-00009152-00009367 burn at the stake i mean you know FZ2-0mlTkiM-00044-00009368-00009527 and others have done it no you know he's FZ2-0mlTkiM-00045-00009528-00009710 saying like hey buddy we're praying for FZ2-0mlTkiM-00046-00009711-00009935 you full steam ahead you don't renounce FZ2-0mlTkiM-00047-00009936-00010110 christ you got this god's going to take FZ2-0mlTkiM-00048-00010111-00010287 care of you that's what that's the kind FZ2-0mlTkiM-00049-00010288-00010463 of messages we need FZ2-0mlTkiM-00050-00010464-00010638 not well if you decide to stay home we FZ2-0mlTkiM-00051-00010639-00010855 understand FZ2-0mlTkiM-00052-00010856-00011055 no it's full steam ahead buddy FZ2-0mlTkiM-00053-00011056-00011271 hey if we die though he slay me yeah FZ2-0mlTkiM-00054-00011272-00011455 well i trust him yet we see in the new FZ2-0mlTkiM-00055-00011456-00011678 testament where people hazard their FZ2-0mlTkiM-00056-00011679-00011878 lives for the cause of christ what does FZ2-0mlTkiM-00057-00011879-00012046 it mean to hazard their life means they FZ2-0mlTkiM-00058-00012047-00012199 put their life in jeopardy to do the FZ2-0mlTkiM-00059-00012200-00012342 work of god FZ2-0mlTkiM-00060-00012343-00012478 well it's different when you put your FZ2-0mlTkiM-00061-00012479-00012710 life in jeopardy when it's an army or a FZ2-0mlTkiM-00062-00012711-00013015 virus FZ2-0mlTkiM-00063-00013016-00013400 how about this let's just serve god FZ8J1JffBo8-00000-00000016-00000327 many civilizations have risen and fallen FZ8J1JffBo8-00001-00000328-00000567 but for our generation all of humanity FZ8J1JffBo8-00002-00000568-00000815 is under threat we're facing climate FZ8J1JffBo8-00003-00000816-00001054 change every year there are huge floods FZ8J1JffBo8-00004-00001055-00001358 and droughts 800 million people go to FZ8J1JffBo8-00005-00001359-00001607 bed hungry two billion people are not FZ8J1JffBo8-00006-00001607-00001839 getting enough nutrition from their food FZ8J1JffBo8-00007-00001839-00002047 two-thirds of our wildlife has been lost FZ8J1JffBo8-00008-00002048-00002302 in the last 50 years but there is FZ8J1JffBo8-00009-00002303-00002510 something we can do about this FZ8J1JffBo8-00010-00002511-00002791 there's a solution to all these problems FZ8J1JffBo8-00011-00002792-00003015 and it's right here under our feet FZ8J1JffBo8-00012-00003016-00003247 healthy soil can be a solution to FZ8J1JffBo8-00013-00003247-00003551 climate change floods droughts food FZ8J1JffBo8-00014-00003552-00003863 shortages loss of wildlife and more but FZ8J1JffBo8-00015-00003864-00004103 first what makes our soil healthy it's FZ8J1JffBo8-00016-00004104-00004375 not just earthworms ants and badgers FZ8J1JffBo8-00017-00004376-00004615 that live in the soil healthy soil is FZ8J1JffBo8-00018-00004616-00004870 teeming with microscopic life one FZ8J1JffBo8-00019-00004871-00005111 teaspoon of soil contains more FZ8J1JffBo8-00020-00005112-00005295 microorganisms FZ8J1JffBo8-00021-00005296-00005518 than there are human beings on this FZ8J1JffBo8-00022-00005519-00005791 planet thousands of varieties of FZ8J1JffBo8-00023-00005792-00006134 nematodes fungi bacteria and more each FZ8J1JffBo8-00024-00006135-00006391 one has an important role to play in the FZ8J1JffBo8-00025-00006392-00006663 ecosystem of our soil some of them break FZ8J1JffBo8-00026-00006664-00006951 down organic matter like dead leaves and FZ8J1JffBo8-00027-00006952-00007095 animal waste FZ8J1JffBo8-00028-00007095-00007334 this provides food for plants and other FZ8J1JffBo8-00029-00007336-00007631 creatures others break down the minerals FZ8J1JffBo8-00030-00007631-00007903 and particles of sand this provides FZ8J1JffBo8-00031-00007904-00008119 plants with the nutrition they need and FZ8J1JffBo8-00032-00008120-00008399 in turn the nutrition we need FZ8J1JffBo8-00033-00008400-00008591 these little soil creatures are FZ8J1JffBo8-00034-00008592-00008903 essential to life on this planet in fact FZ8J1JffBo8-00035-00008904-00009142 without all these soil creatures soil FZ8J1JffBo8-00036-00009143-00009383 will be just sand FZ8J1JffBo8-00037-00009384-00009655 soil is our life FZ8J1JffBo8-00038-00009656-00009910 food comes from soil clothes come from FZ8J1JffBo8-00039-00009911-00010214 soil and books but all over the world FZ8J1JffBo8-00040-00010215-00010446 our soil is dying FZ8J1JffBo8-00041-00010447-00010671 one indicator of healthy soil is FZ8J1JffBo8-00042-00010672-00010983 earthworms in the uk three in seven of FZ8J1JffBo8-00043-00010984-00011231 the fields have low earthworm numbers FZ8J1JffBo8-00044-00011232-00011487 that's a lot of unhealthy soil in fact FZ8J1JffBo8-00045-00011488-00011751 in europe two-thirds of the soil is in FZ8J1JffBo8-00046-00011752-00011983 an unhealthy condition another way of FZ8J1JffBo8-00047-00011984-00012199 knowing how healthy soil is is by FZ8J1JffBo8-00048-00012200-00012446 measuring the amount of organic matter FZ8J1JffBo8-00049-00012447-00012663 here in italy it's pretty bad the soil FZ8J1JffBo8-00050-00012664-00012983 in italy has only 1.2 FZ8J1JffBo8-00051-00012984-00013271 organic matter for soil to be healthy it FZ8J1JffBo8-00052-00013272-00013519 should be at least 3 FZ8J1JffBo8-00053-00013519-00013655 to 6 FZ8J1JffBo8-00054-00013656-00013958 and less than 1 percent means the soil FZ8J1JffBo8-00055-00013959-00014255 is essentially a desert in india about FZ8J1JffBo8-00056-00014256-00014615 two-thirds of the soil has less than 0.5 FZ8J1JffBo8-00057-00014616-00014822 percent organic matter FZ8J1JffBo8-00058-00014823-00015063 another indicator of soil health is the FZ8J1JffBo8-00059-00015063-00015366 depth of top soil top soil is the top of FZ8J1JffBo8-00060-00015368-00015607 the soil where most of the life is here FZ8J1JffBo8-00061-00015608-00015822 in the us we have lost 50 percent of our FZ8J1JffBo8-00062-00015823-00016047 top soil another indicator of soil FZ8J1JffBo8-00063-00016047-00016327 health is desertification that means FZ8J1JffBo8-00064-00016328-00016679 when land has become a desert in africa FZ8J1JffBo8-00065-00016680-00017055 45 of the land is desertified and iran FZ8J1JffBo8-00066-00017056-00017367 estimates that by 2030 we will lose FZ8J1JffBo8-00067-00017368-00017591 two-thirds of the land we grow crops on FZ8J1JffBo8-00068-00017592-00017822 it doesn't take a genius to realize that FZ8J1JffBo8-00069-00017823-00018039 if our soil is unhealthy our food FZ8J1JffBo8-00070-00018040-00018319 quality reduces too for example if i FZ8J1JffBo8-00071-00018320-00018583 want to get as much nutrition as this FZ8J1JffBo8-00072-00018584-00018822 plate of salad would have provided 100 FZ8J1JffBo8-00073-00018823-00018999 years ago now i'd have to eat all of FZ8J1JffBo8-00074-00019000-00019214 this i can't eat that much and this FZ8J1JffBo8-00075-00019215-00019455 isn't just about food quality it's about FZ8J1JffBo8-00076-00019456-00019735 food quantity unhealthy soil means less FZ8J1JffBo8-00077-00019736-00019983 food for everybody and less reliable FZ8J1JffBo8-00078-00019984-00020303 harvests this is about climate change FZ8J1JffBo8-00079-00020304-00020558 healthy soil is a huge carbon sink a FZ8J1JffBo8-00080-00020559-00020799 carbon sink means something that takes FZ8J1JffBo8-00081-00020800-00021071 in carbon and stores it for a long time FZ8J1JffBo8-00082-00021072-00021294 that's helpful because it means that the FZ8J1JffBo8-00083-00021295-00021583 carbon is held in the soil instead of in FZ8J1JffBo8-00084-00021584-00021807 our atmosphere as carbon dioxide which FZ8J1JffBo8-00085-00021808-00022047 you probably already know is a big FZ8J1JffBo8-00086-00022048-00022278 contributor to climate change our soil FZ8J1JffBo8-00087-00022279-00022527 actually stores three times more carbon FZ8J1JffBo8-00088-00022528-00022775 than is in the atmosphere but unhealthy FZ8J1JffBo8-00089-00022776-00023022 soil loses carbon it contributes to FZ8J1JffBo8-00090-00023023-00023230 climate change instead of being a FZ8J1JffBo8-00091-00023231-00023503 solution FZ8J1JffBo8-00092-00023504-00023767 an unhealthy soil doesn't store water so FZ8J1JffBo8-00093-00023768-00024055 when it rains the water doesn't soak FZ8J1JffBo8-00094-00024056-00024263 into the ground and we get floods and FZ8J1JffBo8-00095-00024264-00024478 once the flood is over FZ8J1JffBo8-00096-00024479-00024630 we get droughts FZ8J1JffBo8-00097-00024631-00024958 this is about our future by 2050 u.n FZ8J1JffBo8-00098-00024959-00025294 agencies say 90 of the earth's soils FZ8J1JffBo8-00099-00025295-00025542 could be degraded unless we act now FZ8J1JffBo8-00100-00025543-00025758 because we can turn this around it's FZ8J1JffBo8-00101-00025760-00025958 possible to bring our soil back to FZ8J1JffBo8-00102-00025960-00026206 health if we take care of it we can do FZ8J1JffBo8-00103-00026207-00026414 our farming in ways that make ourselves FZ8J1JffBo8-00104-00026416-00026670 healthier by getting more organic matter FZ8J1JffBo8-00105-00026672-00026870 into the ground and creating conditions FZ8J1JffBo8-00106-00026872-00027151 where the soil life can thrive we can FZ8J1JffBo8-00107-00027152-00027431 make soil into a solution where our soil FZ8J1JffBo8-00108-00027432-00027631 is able to store water so that we don't FZ8J1JffBo8-00109-00027632-00027895 get floods and droughts where our soil FZ8J1JffBo8-00110-00027895-00028135 helps us reduce climate change emissions FZ8J1JffBo8-00111-00028136-00028335 instead of being a cause of it where our FZ8J1JffBo8-00112-00028336-00028590 soil supports our wildlife to thrive we FZ8J1JffBo8-00113-00028591-00028799 need to make sure it happens and that FZ8J1JffBo8-00114-00028800-00029039 means making sure everybody knows FZ8J1JffBo8-00115-00029039-00029262 because we are not government officials FZ8J1JffBo8-00116-00029263-00029511 politicians or farmers but we do have a FZ8J1JffBo8-00117-00029512-00029743 voice if everyone knows how important FZ8J1JffBo8-00118-00029744-00029990 soil is if everyone knows that we can't FZ8J1JffBo8-00119-00029991-00030214 go on treating it like dirt if everyone FZ8J1JffBo8-00120-00030216-00030446 knows we need to take care of our soil FZ8J1JffBo8-00121-00030447-00030679 then change will happen this is our FZ8J1JffBo8-00122-00030680-00031007 future and soil is our solution let's FZ8J1JffBo8-00123-00031008-00031295 make out about soil write the poem about FZ8J1JffBo8-00124-00031295-00031502 soil we can also write letters to our FZ8J1JffBo8-00125-00031503-00031855 elected leaders we can use our voices FZ8J1JffBo8-00126-00031856-00032111 and creativity to bring soil to the top FZ8J1JffBo8-00127-00032112-00034151 of the world agenda let's make it FZ8J1JffBo8-00128-00034152-00035098 hello FZ8J1JffBo8-00129-00035099-00035327 [Music] FZ8J1JffBo8-00130-00035328-00035536 you FZG-fMYky18-00000-00000064-00000286 it's delivery time for net zero in the FZG-fMYky18-00001-00000287-00000383 uk FZG-fMYky18-00002-00000384-00000574 the country has ambitious targets to FZG-fMYky18-00003-00000575-00000711 reduce the political emissions that FZG-fMYky18-00004-00000712-00000958 cause climate change and in most areas FZG-fMYky18-00005-00000959-00001254 of the economy there are plans in place FZG-fMYky18-00006-00001255-00001519 so now the priority is for strong FZG-fMYky18-00007-00001520-00001702 government policies which drive a rapid FZG-fMYky18-00008-00001703-00002055 response from businesses and from people FZG-fMYky18-00009-00002056-00002271 but how can we be confident that the FZG-fMYky18-00010-00002272-00002455 necessary progress will actually be FZG-fMYky18-00011-00002456-00002591 delivered FZG-fMYky18-00012-00002592-00002758 well it's our role in the climate change FZG-fMYky18-00013-00002759-00002942 committee to offer an independent view FZG-fMYky18-00014-00002943-00003079 of that challenge FZG-fMYky18-00015-00003080-00003279 we've worked hard to develop a new FZG-fMYky18-00016-00003279-00003567 approach to monitoring progress FZG-fMYky18-00017-00003568-00003790 we're increasing our focus on real FZG-fMYky18-00018-00003792-00003999 change on the ground measured through FZG-fMYky18-00019-00004000-00004254 early indicators of action by businesses FZG-fMYky18-00020-00004255-00004663 consumers and households FZG-fMYky18-00021-00004664-00004886 around the world net zero emissions has FZG-fMYky18-00022-00004887-00005070 become the standard goal for national FZG-fMYky18-00023-00005071-00005286 governments to tackle climate change FZG-fMYky18-00024-00005287-00005486 most of the world's economy now operates FZG-fMYky18-00025-00005487-00005751 under some kind of net zero goal that's FZG-fMYky18-00026-00005752-00005886 progress FZG-fMYky18-00027-00005887-00006095 but many national goals for achieving FZG-fMYky18-00028-00006096-00006391 net zero are only loose ambitions many FZG-fMYky18-00029-00006392-00006567 are missing accompanying plans to FZG-fMYky18-00030-00006568-00006798 deliver them and actions are rarely in FZG-fMYky18-00031-00006800-00006959 line with the rapid fallen emissions FZG-fMYky18-00032-00006959-00007198 that we require immediately FZG-fMYky18-00033-00007200-00007487 in this the uk's approach really stands FZG-fMYky18-00034-00007488-00007798 out we have ambitious legal targets FZG-fMYky18-00035-00007800-00008023 requiring near-term reductions in uk FZG-fMYky18-00036-00008023-00008223 emissions all fully in line with the FZG-fMYky18-00037-00008224-00008327 climate change committee's FZG-fMYky18-00038-00008328-00008471 recommendations FZG-fMYky18-00039-00008472-00008695 and prior to the cop 26 climate summit FZG-fMYky18-00040-00008696-00008903 in glasgow the government backed those FZG-fMYky18-00041-00008904-00009151 targets with a detailed net zero FZG-fMYky18-00042-00009152-00009319 strategy FZG-fMYky18-00043-00009320-00009614 the uk is in a new phase FZG-fMYky18-00044-00009615-00009863 the priority is not setting targets it's FZG-fMYky18-00045-00009864-00010183 now delivery and implementation FZG-fMYky18-00046-00010184-00010423 and that means the role of the ccc must FZG-fMYky18-00047-00010424-00010719 change to scrutinize those things too FZG-fMYky18-00048-00010720-00010903 we have a solid base for monitoring FZG-fMYky18-00049-00010904-00011038 progress FZG-fMYky18-00050-00011039-00011199 the government's net zero strategy FZG-fMYky18-00051-00011200-00011383 provides pathways for each sector to FZG-fMYky18-00052-00011384-00011678 reduce emissions right through to 2037 FZG-fMYky18-00053-00011679-00011887 if achieved those pathways would deliver FZG-fMYky18-00054-00011888-00012142 the uk's legislated carbon budgets and FZG-fMYky18-00055-00012143-00012463 put us on track to reach net zero FZG-fMYky18-00056-00012464-00012727 the government strategy and the ccc's FZG-fMYky18-00057-00012728-00012886 emissions pathways are similar so FZG-fMYky18-00058-00012887-00013063 there's consensus about the big FZG-fMYky18-00059-00013063-00013247 challenges FZG-fMYky18-00060-00013247-00013479 all uk electricity should come from low FZG-fMYky18-00061-00013480-00013727 carbon sources like wind and nuclear by FZG-fMYky18-00062-00013728-00013975 2035 FZG-fMYky18-00063-00013976-00014230 all newly sold cars and vans should be FZG-fMYky18-00064-00014231-00014511 zero emission by 2030 we'll also need FZG-fMYky18-00065-00014512-00014703 more walking and cycling and public FZG-fMYky18-00066-00014704-00014927 transport provision FZG-fMYky18-00067-00014928-00015119 reducing emissions from buildings is a FZG-fMYky18-00068-00015119-00015303 tough test but shortly every new FZG-fMYky18-00069-00015304-00015463 building must be constructed to a net FZG-fMYky18-00070-00015463-00015822 zero standard and by 2035 all buildings FZG-fMYky18-00071-00015823-00015935 should reach a decent level of FZG-fMYky18-00072-00015936-00016191 insulation and energy efficiency FZG-fMYky18-00073-00016191-00016527 sales of gas boilers must be phased out FZG-fMYky18-00074-00016528-00016719 the future for uk manufacturing and FZG-fMYky18-00075-00016720-00016935 construction is in making and selling FZG-fMYky18-00076-00016936-00017158 low carbon products emissions in this FZG-fMYky18-00077-00017159-00017399 sector must fall by around 70 between FZG-fMYky18-00078-00017400-00017694 2019 and 2035 FZG-fMYky18-00079-00017695-00017919 and when it comes to the natural world FZG-fMYky18-00080-00017920-00018119 we need to rapidly scale up tree FZG-fMYky18-00081-00018120-00018319 planting peatland restoration and FZG-fMYky18-00082-00018320-00018655 bioenergy production on land freed up by FZG-fMYky18-00083-00018656-00018855 improved productivity and farming and FZG-fMYky18-00084-00018856-00019022 the changes to the nation's meat and FZG-fMYky18-00085-00019023-00019286 dairy consumption that we need FZG-fMYky18-00086-00019287-00019479 those are the right goals FZG-fMYky18-00087-00019480-00019711 but they're hard to track FZG-fMYky18-00088-00019712-00019847 so we need a better approach to FZG-fMYky18-00089-00019848-00020111 monitoring progress in detail FZG-fMYky18-00090-00020112-00020335 we thought really carefully about how to FZG-fMYky18-00091-00020336-00020486 do this FZG-fMYky18-00092-00020487-00020727 our main focus is the economic sectors FZG-fMYky18-00093-00020728-00020950 but we also want to consider important FZG-fMYky18-00094-00020951-00021094 cross-cutting themes like public FZG-fMYky18-00095-00021095-00021358 engagement governance business action FZG-fMYky18-00096-00021359-00021550 and of course fairness FZG-fMYky18-00097-00021551-00021727 we want to look for early indicators of FZG-fMYky18-00098-00021728-00021975 change not just tracking emissions FZG-fMYky18-00099-00021976-00022183 we need to monitor what's important FZG-fMYky18-00100-00022184-00022399 not just what's easy to measure and of FZG-fMYky18-00101-00022400-00022607 course we want to be flexible to how the FZG-fMYky18-00102-00022608-00022871 external context affects progress issues FZG-fMYky18-00103-00022872-00023214 like increases in the cost of living FZG-fMYky18-00104-00023215-00023327 these FZG-fMYky18-00105-00023328-00023591 are our monitoring maps FZG-fMYky18-00106-00023592-00023750 for each sector we've mapped the FZG-fMYky18-00107-00023751-00023919 relationships and the interdependencies FZG-fMYky18-00108-00023920-00024271 between policies enablers and outcomes FZG-fMYky18-00109-00024272-00024575 we consider four things FZG-fMYky18-00110-00024576-00024799 contextual factors FZG-fMYky18-00111-00024800-00024975 these are conditions that are mostly FZG-fMYky18-00112-00024976-00025150 independent of government climate policy FZG-fMYky18-00113-00025151-00025303 but they're really important for the net FZG-fMYky18-00114-00025304-00025550 zero transition global and societal FZG-fMYky18-00115-00025551-00025718 shifts or changes in international FZG-fMYky18-00116-00025719-00025934 politics FZG-fMYky18-00117-00025935-00026183 at the next level we have policies FZG-fMYky18-00118-00026183-00026318 this includes policies that the FZG-fMYky18-00119-00026319-00026462 government has already promised or FZG-fMYky18-00120-00026463-00026718 implemented but also other measures that FZG-fMYky18-00121-00026719-00027055 our analysis indicates are necessary FZG-fMYky18-00122-00027056-00027318 enablers are the enabling factors for FZG-fMYky18-00123-00027319-00027567 successful policy issues like private FZG-fMYky18-00124-00027568-00027790 sector finance business action FZG-fMYky18-00125-00027791-00028111 innovation governance FZG-fMYky18-00126-00028112-00028335 and on the top we have the key outcomes FZG-fMYky18-00127-00028336-00028567 that need to be achieved in each sector FZG-fMYky18-00128-00028568-00028695 with a collection of measurable FZG-fMYky18-00129-00028695-00028943 indicators for each FZG-fMYky18-00130-00028944-00029231 that kind of logical approach to change FZG-fMYky18-00131-00029232-00029487 pays dividends when it's in place FZG-fMYky18-00132-00029488-00029655 as we've seen in the uk's electricity FZG-fMYky18-00133-00029656-00029846 system over recent years FZG-fMYky18-00134-00029847-00030127 a clear strategy for phasing out coal FZG-fMYky18-00135-00030127-00030279 for growing low carbon sources of FZG-fMYky18-00136-00030280-00030399 electricity FZG-fMYky18-00137-00030400-00030631 a focus on bringing down the cost of key FZG-fMYky18-00138-00030632-00030751 technologies FZG-fMYky18-00139-00030752-00030974 a stable policy framework to support FZG-fMYky18-00140-00030975-00031199 vast private sector investment FZG-fMYky18-00141-00031200-00031383 that clarity saw emissions from the FZG-fMYky18-00142-00031383-00031574 power sector fall by two-thirds from FZG-fMYky18-00143-00031575-00031839 2008 to 2019. FZG-fMYky18-00144-00031839-00032031 coal-fired power once made this our FZG-fMYky18-00145-00032032-00032255 dirtiest sector now coal is almost FZG-fMYky18-00146-00032256-00032495 completely gone and the costs of FZG-fMYky18-00147-00032495-00032679 generating electricity from offshore FZG-fMYky18-00148-00032680-00032839 wind have plummeted thanks to a FZG-fMYky18-00149-00032840-00033062 combination of government policy and FZG-fMYky18-00150-00033063-00033302 industry innovation FZG-fMYky18-00151-00033303-00033518 looking out to the next few years let's FZG-fMYky18-00152-00033519-00033727 consider another bright spot in the FZG-fMYky18-00153-00033728-00033999 surface transport sector FZG-fMYky18-00154-00034000-00034215 at the top surface transport emissions FZG-fMYky18-00155-00034216-00034639 must fall by 75 from 2019 to 2035 that's FZG-fMYky18-00156-00034640-00034767 a big drop FZG-fMYky18-00157-00034768-00034967 that's driven by reducing consumer FZG-fMYky18-00158-00034968-00035151 demand for carbon intensive forms of FZG-fMYky18-00159-00035152-00035239 travel FZG-fMYky18-00160-00035240-00035327 and FZG-fMYky18-00161-00035328-00035574 reducing vehicle emissions let's follow FZG-fMYky18-00162-00035575-00035718 vehicle emissions FZG-fMYky18-00163-00035719-00035959 down our map FZG-fMYky18-00164-00035960-00036151 rapid uptake of zero emission vehicles FZG-fMYky18-00165-00036152-00036502 or evs is absolutely essential FZG-fMYky18-00166-00036503-00036735 that in turn will be enabled by a strong FZG-fMYky18-00167-00036736-00036999 supply of quality zero emission vehicles FZG-fMYky18-00168-00037000-00037183 a widespread and reliable public FZG-fMYky18-00169-00037184-00037327 charging network FZG-fMYky18-00170-00037328-00037543 reinforced by improving public and FZG-fMYky18-00171-00037544-00037846 business attitudes to electric vehicles FZG-fMYky18-00172-00037847-00038095 the job of effective policy is to guide FZG-fMYky18-00173-00038096-00038199 that FZG-fMYky18-00174-00038200-00038383 encouraging the actions that are needed FZG-fMYky18-00175-00038384-00038535 in the private sector FZG-fMYky18-00176-00038536-00038711 especially with a clear phase-out date FZG-fMYky18-00177-00038712-00038983 for petrol and diesel vehicle sales FZG-fMYky18-00178-00038984-00039127 financial support for consumers is FZG-fMYky18-00179-00039128-00039287 initially very important but that too FZG-fMYky18-00180-00039288-00039502 can be phased out as the vehicles become FZG-fMYky18-00181-00039503-00039774 cheaper and that in turn rests on a set FZG-fMYky18-00182-00039775-00039983 of contextual factors which you can see FZG-fMYky18-00183-00039984-00040151 here FZG-fMYky18-00184-00040152-00040390 we have good data on the key indicators FZG-fMYky18-00185-00040391-00040559 and metrics here FZG-fMYky18-00186-00040560-00040751 electric car sales are actually slightly FZG-fMYky18-00187-00040752-00040958 ahead of the ccc pathway and on a trend FZG-fMYky18-00188-00040959-00041127 to beat the government's own pathway for FZG-fMYky18-00189-00041128-00041502 the sector FZG-fMYky18-00190-00041503-00041687 and that's further reinforced by key FZG-fMYky18-00191-00041688-00041839 social metrics FZG-fMYky18-00192-00041840-00042023 improve public awareness FZG-fMYky18-00193-00042024-00042215 and intentions for drivers next vehicle FZG-fMYky18-00194-00042216-00042646 purchases FZG-fMYky18-00195-00042647-00042862 and you can see here how the number of FZG-fMYky18-00196-00042863-00043079 new ev models coming onto the market has FZG-fMYky18-00197-00043080-00043287 grown in recent years more so for cars FZG-fMYky18-00198-00043288-00043462 than for vans FZG-fMYky18-00199-00043463-00043695 taken together that gives us a strong FZG-fMYky18-00200-00043696-00043887 basis to think that uk electric car FZG-fMYky18-00201-00043888-00044087 sales are heading in the right direction FZG-fMYky18-00202-00044088-00044271 and that's a healthy indicator for the FZG-fMYky18-00203-00044272-00044590 transport sector as a whole FZG-fMYky18-00204-00044591-00044807 the carbonizing electricity and moving FZG-fMYky18-00205-00044808-00044958 to electric vehicles are two clear FZG-fMYky18-00206-00044959-00045055 examples FZG-fMYky18-00207-00045056-00045335 of positive progress towards net zero FZG-fMYky18-00208-00045336-00045558 sadly we're not seeing similar progress FZG-fMYky18-00209-00045559-00045855 in other areas that must change FZG-fMYky18-00210-00045856-00046111 so we hope our monitoring maps will help FZG-fMYky18-00211-00046112-00046262 focus government's attention on the FZG-fMYky18-00212-00046263-00046518 delivery gaps and if you're in a local FZG-fMYky18-00213-00046519-00046702 authority or a business FZG-fMYky18-00214-00046703-00046839 or even if you're looking to cut your FZG-fMYky18-00215-00046840-00047046 own carbon footprint then we also hope FZG-fMYky18-00216-00047047-00047215 these monitoring maps will guide you to FZG-fMYky18-00217-00047216-00047462 where you can make a difference FZG-fMYky18-00218-00047463-00047718 we'll update the maps in real time FZG-fMYky18-00219-00047719-00047895 we'll publish a live dashboard of our FZG-fMYky18-00220-00047896-00048127 key indicators there are areas where FZG-fMYky18-00221-00048128-00048302 data is currently scarce and others FZG-fMYky18-00222-00048303-00048471 where better indicators almost certainly FZG-fMYky18-00223-00048472-00048607 will be available FZG-fMYky18-00224-00048608-00048879 please let us know how we can improve FZG-fMYky18-00225-00048880-00049030 these monitoring maps FZG-fMYky18-00226-00049031-00049302 we want them to become a common currency FZG-fMYky18-00227-00049303-00049543 something that helps to drive progress FZG-fMYky18-00228-00049544-00049799 in this crucial challenge of delivering FZG-fMYky18-00229-00049800-00050163 a net zero uk FaVbObb5tfY-00000-00000000-00000271 welcome to fading memories a podcast FaVbObb5tfY-00001-00000272-00000543 with advice wisdom and hope from FaVbObb5tfY-00002-00000544-00000767 caregivers who have lived the experience FaVbObb5tfY-00003-00000768-00001023 and survived to tell the tale think of FaVbObb5tfY-00004-00001024-00001431 us as your caregiver best friend FaVbObb5tfY-00005-00001432-00001879 with me today is dominic dom esky he has FaVbObb5tfY-00006-00001880-00002142 is has written the book my name is FaVbObb5tfY-00007-00002143-00002367 sharon which is a bit of a love story FaVbObb5tfY-00008-00002368-00002639 between a son and his mother so thanks FaVbObb5tfY-00009-00002640-00002847 for joining me dom FaVbObb5tfY-00010-00002848-00003047 thank you for having me today so why FaVbObb5tfY-00011-00003048-00003254 don't you tell us a little bit about FaVbObb5tfY-00012-00003255-00003551 your mom your caregiving journey and FaVbObb5tfY-00013-00003552-00003806 what led you to write the book FaVbObb5tfY-00014-00003807-00004031 i i would love to and FaVbObb5tfY-00015-00004032-00004175 i would say FaVbObb5tfY-00016-00004176-00004454 if i want to tell about my mom she was FaVbObb5tfY-00017-00004455-00004702 the most loving supportive FaVbObb5tfY-00018-00004703-00005031 person that i've ever known and from FaVbObb5tfY-00019-00005032-00005279 not just to me but to FaVbObb5tfY-00020-00005280-00005559 cousins that she was sending cards to FaVbObb5tfY-00021-00005560-00005927 to people she worked with and everybody FaVbObb5tfY-00022-00005928-00006151 gave me that same kind of feedback FaVbObb5tfY-00023-00006152-00006254 and FaVbObb5tfY-00024-00006255-00006414 unfortunately FaVbObb5tfY-00025-00006415-00006606 my mom was um FaVbObb5tfY-00026-00006608-00006791 went down the path of alzheimer's and FaVbObb5tfY-00027-00006792-00006934 dementia FaVbObb5tfY-00028-00006936-00007263 and why i wrote the book was her FaVbObb5tfY-00029-00007264-00007406 dementia FaVbObb5tfY-00030-00007408-00007727 collided with 2020 FaVbObb5tfY-00031-00007728-00007855 right and FaVbObb5tfY-00032-00007856-00008110 a glow if she did not have it bad bad FaVbObb5tfY-00033-00008111-00008207 enough FaVbObb5tfY-00034-00008208-00008327 it FaVbObb5tfY-00035-00008328-00008719 collided with that global pandemic and i FaVbObb5tfY-00036-00008720-00008831 thought FaVbObb5tfY-00037-00008832-00008942 by day FaVbObb5tfY-00038-00008943-00009142 i am in the publishing business i help FaVbObb5tfY-00039-00009143-00009335 people share their stories FaVbObb5tfY-00040-00009336-00009591 and i thought i owed it to my mom FaVbObb5tfY-00041-00009592-00009806 to share her story it wasn't one that FaVbObb5tfY-00042-00009807-00010023 wasn't one that i was able to talk about FaVbObb5tfY-00043-00010024-00010263 so being on the show talking about it is FaVbObb5tfY-00044-00010264-00010574 not something i really did i just wrote FaVbObb5tfY-00045-00010575-00010831 and wrote and wrote and didn't really FaVbObb5tfY-00046-00010832-00011246 express my feelings verbally but and FaVbObb5tfY-00047-00011247-00011606 then i wrote it and there it was and FaVbObb5tfY-00048-00011607-00011878 and that's how it came about FaVbObb5tfY-00049-00011879-00012119 so it's kind of a self-help healing FaVbObb5tfY-00050-00012120-00012374 process to write it yeah i would say it FaVbObb5tfY-00051-00012375-00012727 was very cathartic and as i wrote it FaVbObb5tfY-00052-00012728-00012902 i didn't always know how the story was FaVbObb5tfY-00053-00012903-00013038 going to end FaVbObb5tfY-00054-00013039-00013175 that makes sense FaVbObb5tfY-00055-00013176-00013455 and off offline we were talking that i FaVbObb5tfY-00056-00013456-00013655 am working on my own book i didn't know FaVbObb5tfY-00057-00013656-00013894 that dom was in publishing until we FaVbObb5tfY-00058-00013895-00014071 have basically spent the previous hour FaVbObb5tfY-00059-00014072-00014383 just talking this is not uncommon for me FaVbObb5tfY-00060-00014384-00014558 and guests but FaVbObb5tfY-00061-00014559-00014679 um FaVbObb5tfY-00062-00014680-00014807 my FaVbObb5tfY-00063-00014808-00015055 writing journey i i'm looking at it as a FaVbObb5tfY-00064-00015056-00015286 cathartic process and hopefully it's FaVbObb5tfY-00065-00015287-00015550 going to be a helpful process with FaVbObb5tfY-00066-00015551-00015711 advice for other people FaVbObb5tfY-00067-00015712-00015935 that's the plan once i wrangle my FaVbObb5tfY-00068-00015936-00016230 schedule into submission so i have more FaVbObb5tfY-00069-00016231-00016366 time FaVbObb5tfY-00070-00016368-00016543 but tell us about FaVbObb5tfY-00071-00016544-00016830 tell us about your mom FaVbObb5tfY-00072-00016831-00017111 well i and even like your mom as well FaVbObb5tfY-00073-00017112-00017343 i think we have a duty to share these FaVbObb5tfY-00074-00017344-00017575 stories and what i'll say is my mom FaVbObb5tfY-00075-00017576-00017886 could no longer share her story FaVbObb5tfY-00076-00017887-00018222 so what i did is i'm just uh FaVbObb5tfY-00077-00018223-00018439 what would you call that uh FaVbObb5tfY-00078-00018440-00018567 a vessel FaVbObb5tfY-00079-00018568-00018863 for her to be able to share that story FaVbObb5tfY-00080-00018864-00018991 so FaVbObb5tfY-00081-00018992-00019230 what i tried to do is just share a FaVbObb5tfY-00082-00019231-00019479 message of unconditional love and i FaVbObb5tfY-00083-00019480-00019735 didn't want to just share my mom's story FaVbObb5tfY-00084-00019736-00019999 as a victim of disease FaVbObb5tfY-00085-00020000-00020263 because i felt that she was so much more FaVbObb5tfY-00086-00020264-00020383 than that FaVbObb5tfY-00087-00020384-00020655 so i really wanted to take you back FaVbObb5tfY-00088-00020656-00020743 to FaVbObb5tfY-00089-00020744-00020983 she's i'm from pennsylvania my mom grew FaVbObb5tfY-00090-00020984-00021230 up in new mexico and i wanted to take FaVbObb5tfY-00091-00021231-00021535 you back as far as i could to meet her FaVbObb5tfY-00092-00021536-00021783 as the as a young woman in new mexico FaVbObb5tfY-00093-00021784-00022111 and i researched to find out who she was FaVbObb5tfY-00094-00022112-00022311 interactions she had friends she talked FaVbObb5tfY-00095-00022312-00022535 to so that i could carry that through FaVbObb5tfY-00096-00022536-00022743 and tell her whole story because her FaVbObb5tfY-00097-00022744-00022871 whole story FaVbObb5tfY-00098-00022872-00023030 is more FaVbObb5tfY-00099-00023031-00023278 than what happened to her these last 10 FaVbObb5tfY-00100-00023279-00023503 years that's we're not gonna FaVbObb5tfY-00101-00023504-00023727 we've been through that and it's tough FaVbObb5tfY-00102-00023728-00024071 but i am not going to remember that you FaVbObb5tfY-00103-00024072-00024327 know the bad times i'm going to choose FaVbObb5tfY-00104-00024328-00024519 to remember all all the good times and FaVbObb5tfY-00105-00024520-00024599 so FaVbObb5tfY-00106-00024600-00024791 that's what i wanted to put out there FaVbObb5tfY-00107-00024792-00024911 those um FaVbObb5tfY-00108-00024912-00025103 the times that she was there for me the FaVbObb5tfY-00109-00025104-00025511 times that she held me the times that FaVbObb5tfY-00110-00025512-00025758 she believed in me when maybe nobody FaVbObb5tfY-00111-00025760-00026014 else did and the rest of her family and FaVbObb5tfY-00112-00026016-00026231 like i said earlier all those FaVbObb5tfY-00113-00026232-00026502 other people that she knew and FaVbObb5tfY-00114-00026504-00026887 um helped in various ways FaVbObb5tfY-00115-00026888-00027111 tell us the story about the restaurant FaVbObb5tfY-00116-00027112-00027295 that she helped you with because there's FaVbObb5tfY-00117-00027295-00027527 a correlation between your mom and my FaVbObb5tfY-00118-00027527-00027767 mom in that story so if you tell your FaVbObb5tfY-00119-00027768-00028083 part i'll throw out my part FaVbObb5tfY-00120-00028083-00028431 okay so as a young man i decided to go FaVbObb5tfY-00121-00028432-00028639 into the restaurant business FaVbObb5tfY-00122-00028639-00028855 and this was before the mortgage bubble FaVbObb5tfY-00123-00028856-00029095 burst or anything like that in the early FaVbObb5tfY-00124-00029095-00029287 2000s i FaVbObb5tfY-00125-00029288-00029535 refinanced everything bought houses to FaVbObb5tfY-00126-00029536-00029774 refinance anything i could to come up FaVbObb5tfY-00127-00029775-00029974 with the money that i needed to have a FaVbObb5tfY-00128-00029975-00030095 restaurant FaVbObb5tfY-00129-00030095-00030214 and FaVbObb5tfY-00130-00030216-00030479 cash flow was tight and things you know FaVbObb5tfY-00131-00030480-00030646 things don't always work out the way we FaVbObb5tfY-00132-00030647-00030767 planned FaVbObb5tfY-00133-00030768-00030895 and FaVbObb5tfY-00134-00030895-00031287 mom was always at the restaurant helping FaVbObb5tfY-00135-00031288-00031431 whether it be FaVbObb5tfY-00136-00031432-00031695 taking towels home to wash FaVbObb5tfY-00137-00031695-00031879 whether it be FaVbObb5tfY-00138-00031880-00032143 seeding people helping me with the FaVbObb5tfY-00139-00032144-00032311 fryers or anything like that but what FaVbObb5tfY-00140-00032312-00032446 she was FaVbObb5tfY-00141-00032447-00032774 best at when she came to um FaVbObb5tfY-00142-00032775-00032974 what she came to be best at FaVbObb5tfY-00143-00032975-00033183 was she made homemade desserts she FaVbObb5tfY-00144-00033184-00033335 taught herself FaVbObb5tfY-00145-00033336-00033639 she taught herself to make cheesecakes FaVbObb5tfY-00146-00033640-00033759 so that FaVbObb5tfY-00147-00033760-00034023 i could serve them at my restaurant FaVbObb5tfY-00148-00034024-00034199 and she didn't FaVbObb5tfY-00149-00034200-00034359 was like she'd come in with key lime FaVbObb5tfY-00150-00034360-00034607 pies she'd come on the oreo cheesecake FaVbObb5tfY-00151-00034608-00034831 all these cheesecakes that FaVbObb5tfY-00152-00034832-00035087 the customers loved and she did it just FaVbObb5tfY-00153-00035088-00035343 out of the kindness of her heart just so FaVbObb5tfY-00154-00035344-00035455 that her FaVbObb5tfY-00155-00035456-00035583 son would FaVbObb5tfY-00156-00035584-00035718 make uh FaVbObb5tfY-00157-00035719-00035911 would only lose ten dollars at the end FaVbObb5tfY-00158-00035912-00036143 of the day rather than a hundred because FaVbObb5tfY-00159-00036144-00036415 of her desserts drawn in so that's the FaVbObb5tfY-00160-00036416-00036559 story FaVbObb5tfY-00161-00036560-00036815 well my mom my my sister is four and a FaVbObb5tfY-00162-00036816-00037007 half years younger than i FaVbObb5tfY-00163-00037008-00037262 and we grew up with all homemade FaVbObb5tfY-00164-00037263-00037543 desserts like my best friend in school FaVbObb5tfY-00165-00037544-00037871 from fifth grade on to graduation FaVbObb5tfY-00166-00037872-00038071 she'd eat chips ahoy FaVbObb5tfY-00167-00038072-00038359 and those things were i still don't like FaVbObb5tfY-00168-00038360-00038518 chips away FaVbObb5tfY-00169-00038519-00038662 because i've always had homemade FaVbObb5tfY-00170-00038663-00038943 desserts and my mom made great cakes but FaVbObb5tfY-00171-00038944-00039174 they were from a box but you know she FaVbObb5tfY-00172-00039175-00039430 always decorated them beautifully and so FaVbObb5tfY-00173-00039431-00039671 when i read that part in the book it FaVbObb5tfY-00174-00039672-00039927 reminded me of all the homemade desserts FaVbObb5tfY-00175-00039928-00040174 that my mom made which was she's passed FaVbObb5tfY-00176-00040175-00040471 down to me and to my daughter so FaVbObb5tfY-00177-00040472-00040743 that's kind of a nice memory to have FaVbObb5tfY-00178-00040744-00040839 and FaVbObb5tfY-00179-00040840-00041055 i've managed to cure my sweet tooth FaVbObb5tfY-00180-00041056-00041215 thankfully but because we know the sugar FaVbObb5tfY-00181-00041216-00041446 is not great for our brains FaVbObb5tfY-00182-00041447-00041639 so that's FaVbObb5tfY-00183-00041640-00041862 sometimes i miss my sweet tooth because FaVbObb5tfY-00184-00041863-00042030 it was such a big part of my life all FaVbObb5tfY-00185-00042031-00042279 these desserts but that's okay FaVbObb5tfY-00186-00042280-00042502 you might have to add the recipe section FaVbObb5tfY-00187-00042503-00042718 to that book you're writing FaVbObb5tfY-00188-00042719-00042974 well i have a recipes on my website FaVbObb5tfY-00189-00042975-00043230 and many of my listeners and followers FaVbObb5tfY-00190-00043231-00043327 know FaVbObb5tfY-00191-00043328-00043551 that about a dozen years ago i went on a FaVbObb5tfY-00192-00043552-00043846 weight loss journey because my dad was FaVbObb5tfY-00193-00043847-00044135 diabetic his side of the family lots of FaVbObb5tfY-00194-00044136-00044271 diabetes FaVbObb5tfY-00195-00044272-00044535 i kind of felt like i was FaVbObb5tfY-00196-00044536-00044767 i was ducking the bullet somewhat FaVbObb5tfY-00197-00044768-00044967 because all of the people that had FaVbObb5tfY-00198-00044968-00045143 diabetes on my dad's side of the family FaVbObb5tfY-00199-00045144-00045287 were male FaVbObb5tfY-00200-00045288-00045487 but i had a photography client who was a FaVbObb5tfY-00201-00045488-00045718 doctor and we got to chatting about FaVbObb5tfY-00202-00045719-00045967 diabetes for whatever reason and she FaVbObb5tfY-00203-00045968-00046215 just looked at me and she said you have FaVbObb5tfY-00204-00046216-00046430 a family history of diabetes you're FaVbObb5tfY-00205-00046431-00046679 overweight you're screwed and that is FaVbObb5tfY-00206-00046680-00046958 the word she used and that fired me up FaVbObb5tfY-00207-00046959-00047255 because i am a competitive person and i FaVbObb5tfY-00208-00047256-00047639 my brain said i'll show you screwed and FaVbObb5tfY-00209-00047640-00047727 so FaVbObb5tfY-00210-00047728-00047999 it took a lot of effort to find the path FaVbObb5tfY-00211-00048000-00048239 that worked you know FaVbObb5tfY-00212-00048240-00048415 i don't ha i don't ever do things the FaVbObb5tfY-00213-00048416-00048686 easy way i actually had to cut FaVbObb5tfY-00214-00048687-00048967 way way way back on fat FaVbObb5tfY-00215-00048968-00049046 and FaVbObb5tfY-00216-00049047-00049239 that isn't always easy if you like to FaVbObb5tfY-00217-00049240-00049462 eat it pretty much is not easy it's FaVbObb5tfY-00218-00049463-00049583 harder than FaVbObb5tfY-00219-00049584-00049839 eliminating a lot of the starches FaVbObb5tfY-00220-00049840-00050086 but i did and i lost 100 pounds i've FaVbObb5tfY-00221-00050087-00050279 managed to keep most of it off FaVbObb5tfY-00222-00050280-00050399 thankfully FaVbObb5tfY-00223-00050400-00050607 which is a miracle in itself especially FaVbObb5tfY-00224-00050608-00050862 after these caregiving years FaVbObb5tfY-00225-00050863-00051135 and i realized that FaVbObb5tfY-00226-00051136-00051294 a lot of what FaVbObb5tfY-00227-00051295-00051502 i learned about FaVbObb5tfY-00228-00051503-00051775 nutrition really could help people with FaVbObb5tfY-00229-00051776-00052030 um their loved ones that you know with FaVbObb5tfY-00230-00052032-00052302 alzheimer's because as we know many of FaVbObb5tfY-00231-00052303-00052607 them lose the ability to use you know FaVbObb5tfY-00232-00052608-00052838 knives and forks as the disease FaVbObb5tfY-00233-00052839-00053135 progresses and many of them end up FaVbObb5tfY-00234-00053136-00053399 eating with their hands which FaVbObb5tfY-00235-00053400-00053542 we're we're kind of taught that FaVbObb5tfY-00236-00053544-00053750 grown-ups are supposed to do that FaVbObb5tfY-00237-00053751-00053838 but FaVbObb5tfY-00238-00053839-00054015 you know you don't really have a choice FaVbObb5tfY-00239-00054016-00054215 when somebody that's all they can do and FaVbObb5tfY-00240-00054216-00054415 so i i have like FaVbObb5tfY-00241-00054416-00054671 um protein muffins that taste more like FaVbObb5tfY-00242-00054672-00054926 cupcakes they're kind of a cross between FaVbObb5tfY-00243-00054927-00055175 ew why would i eat this and sugary FaVbObb5tfY-00244-00055176-00055326 cupcake FaVbObb5tfY-00245-00055327-00055487 and it's full of protein and they're FaVbObb5tfY-00246-00055488-00055703 filling because i know a lot of a lot of FaVbObb5tfY-00247-00055704-00055942 my followers their their loved ones just FaVbObb5tfY-00248-00055944-00056142 love sugar which is pretty common with FaVbObb5tfY-00249-00056144-00056375 the alzheimer's and the dimensions FaVbObb5tfY-00250-00056376-00056679 and so i just i've curated FaVbObb5tfY-00251-00056679-00057063 recipes that are tasty quick FaVbObb5tfY-00252-00057064-00057182 healthy FaVbObb5tfY-00253-00057183-00057342 and FaVbObb5tfY-00254-00057344-00057582 i keep in the back of my head there's FaVbObb5tfY-00255-00057583-00057775 some recipes that have like nuts and FaVbObb5tfY-00256-00057776-00057935 stuff in them like no this might not be FaVbObb5tfY-00257-00057936-00058142 good for somebody with alzheimer's FaVbObb5tfY-00258-00058144-00058335 because they might choke and so i've FaVbObb5tfY-00259-00058336-00058542 curated all these recipes FaVbObb5tfY-00260-00058544-00058750 specifically for caregivers who might FaVbObb5tfY-00261-00058751-00058871 need FaVbObb5tfY-00262-00058872-00059215 an idea or they they want something that FaVbObb5tfY-00263-00059216-00059359 looks like you should eat it with your FaVbObb5tfY-00264-00059360-00059526 hands or they need something they could FaVbObb5tfY-00265-00059527-00059679 carry with them easily because their FaVbObb5tfY-00266-00059679-00059894 loved one's always hungry so FaVbObb5tfY-00267-00059895-00060150 um but i have lo i do have red i have FaVbObb5tfY-00268-00060151-00060399 what is it healthier baking and snacking FaVbObb5tfY-00269-00060400-00060575 is one of the rest one of the sections FaVbObb5tfY-00270-00060576-00060726 on my website FaVbObb5tfY-00271-00060727-00060999 because i did learn between the diabetes FaVbObb5tfY-00272-00061000-00061079 and FaVbObb5tfY-00273-00061079-00061303 and my weight loss i learned how to bake FaVbObb5tfY-00274-00061304-00061430 differently FaVbObb5tfY-00275-00061432-00061511 so FaVbObb5tfY-00276-00061512-00061879 healthier baked goods is my jam FaVbObb5tfY-00277-00061879-00062103 i i think that has to be resources in FaVbObb5tfY-00278-00062104-00062350 the back your book there you go oh okay FaVbObb5tfY-00279-00062351-00062615 well now the book just got longer so FaVbObb5tfY-00280-00062616-00062830 sorry sorry when you when you tell me FaVbObb5tfY-00281-00062832-00063166 that this uh 500 pound book is too big FaVbObb5tfY-00282-00063167-00063319 i'm going to blame you FaVbObb5tfY-00283-00063320-00063487 so since we're talking a little bit FaVbObb5tfY-00284-00063488-00063582 about FaVbObb5tfY-00285-00063583-00063703 nutrition FaVbObb5tfY-00286-00063704-00063863 and you're you know i want we'll get FaVbObb5tfY-00287-00063864-00064103 back to your book in a second but FaVbObb5tfY-00288-00064104-00064350 having gone through this experience with FaVbObb5tfY-00289-00064351-00064454 your mom FaVbObb5tfY-00290-00064455-00064694 what do you think caregivers FaVbObb5tfY-00291-00064695-00064830 that are in the early stages of FaVbObb5tfY-00292-00064832-00065063 caregiving like what is if you could FaVbObb5tfY-00293-00065064-00065287 tell everybody that's the beginning of FaVbObb5tfY-00294-00065288-00065406 this journey FaVbObb5tfY-00295-00065407-00065559 like the most important thing in your FaVbObb5tfY-00296-00065560-00065871 opinion what would that be FaVbObb5tfY-00297-00065872-00066126 that it is a disease FaVbObb5tfY-00298-00066127-00066406 and how you treat people with it think FaVbObb5tfY-00299-00066407-00066567 about how you treat somebody with FaVbObb5tfY-00300-00066568-00066782 another disease when somebody's sick in FaVbObb5tfY-00301-00066783-00066926 another way FaVbObb5tfY-00302-00066927-00067023 so FaVbObb5tfY-00303-00067024-00067150 and this is FaVbObb5tfY-00304-00067151-00067391 so prevalent and i see it over and over FaVbObb5tfY-00305-00067392-00067606 and over that there that you have people FaVbObb5tfY-00306-00067607-00067775 that want to yell that want to fight FaVbObb5tfY-00307-00067776-00067903 that want to FaVbObb5tfY-00308-00067904-00068038 argue FaVbObb5tfY-00309-00068039-00068311 this person your loved one is sick FaVbObb5tfY-00310-00068312-00068487 they're hurting FaVbObb5tfY-00311-00068488-00068806 and i really think if you could remember FaVbObb5tfY-00312-00068807-00068999 have that empathy FaVbObb5tfY-00313-00069000-00069271 that they're sick you've been sick right FaVbObb5tfY-00314-00069272-00069455 and this is this is a different kind of FaVbObb5tfY-00315-00069456-00069726 sickness and uh really FaVbObb5tfY-00316-00069727-00070015 take a second take a step back before FaVbObb5tfY-00317-00070016-00070175 you respond and just have that in the FaVbObb5tfY-00318-00070176-00070415 back of your head that it is a disease FaVbObb5tfY-00319-00070416-00070623 they are sick and they didn't do it on FaVbObb5tfY-00320-00070624-00070871 purpose they're not arguing with you on FaVbObb5tfY-00321-00070872-00071135 purpose or you know they're they're mad FaVbObb5tfY-00322-00071136-00071462 now they're angry now they're sick their FaVbObb5tfY-00323-00071463-00071647 brain isn't working right right now FaVbObb5tfY-00324-00071648-00071855 right those wires who knows what's going FaVbObb5tfY-00325-00071856-00072111 on so that would i think i'd stick with FaVbObb5tfY-00326-00072112-00072223 that one FaVbObb5tfY-00327-00072224-00072399 that's excellent and actually nobody's FaVbObb5tfY-00328-00072400-00072671 ever answered that way so that is FaVbObb5tfY-00329-00072672-00073062 excellent it reminds me of my guest past FaVbObb5tfY-00330-00073063-00073367 guest helene berger FaVbObb5tfY-00331-00073368-00073447 she FaVbObb5tfY-00332-00073448-00073655 she was taking care of her husband FaVbObb5tfY-00333-00073656-00073879 and he asked a question for the third FaVbObb5tfY-00334-00073880-00074111 time and she rolled her eyes and then FaVbObb5tfY-00335-00074112-00074326 turned around and answered him FaVbObb5tfY-00336-00074327-00074599 and he saw the frustration on her face FaVbObb5tfY-00337-00074600-00074847 and she when she turned around he looked FaVbObb5tfY-00338-00074848-00075038 what she said he looked like she'd beat FaVbObb5tfY-00339-00075039-00075126 him FaVbObb5tfY-00340-00075127-00075391 and from that day forward she's like i'm FaVbObb5tfY-00341-00075392-00075671 never gonna allow myself to do or say FaVbObb5tfY-00342-00075672-00075862 something that will make him feel that FaVbObb5tfY-00343-00075863-00076038 bad and so FaVbObb5tfY-00344-00076039-00076262 when when she started getting frustrated FaVbObb5tfY-00345-00076263-00076406 with you know how they repeat the FaVbObb5tfY-00346-00076407-00076559 question because their brain doesn't FaVbObb5tfY-00347-00076560-00076671 remember it FaVbObb5tfY-00348-00076672-00076919 that if he could remember he wouldn't FaVbObb5tfY-00349-00076920-00077143 ask and he did not ask to have FaVbObb5tfY-00350-00077144-00077271 alzheimer's FaVbObb5tfY-00351-00077272-00077615 so that was kind of her mantra of FaVbObb5tfY-00352-00077616-00077799 to keep her from rolling i mean we all FaVbObb5tfY-00353-00077800-00078006 roll our eyes like oh dear liam's like FaVbObb5tfY-00354-00078007-00078238 okay we're going there again i mean it's FaVbObb5tfY-00355-00078239-00078487 just it's probably a really bad habit FaVbObb5tfY-00356-00078488-00078735 but it when you said that it kind of FaVbObb5tfY-00357-00078736-00078967 reminded me of her and i feel really bad FaVbObb5tfY-00358-00078968-00079103 because i can't remember the name of her FaVbObb5tfY-00359-00079104-00079311 book this is the problem i'm really bad FaVbObb5tfY-00360-00079312-00079526 at names it has a sunflower on the front FaVbObb5tfY-00361-00079527-00079775 that her husband drew so i'll link that FaVbObb5tfY-00362-00079776-00079926 in the show notes when i remember what FaVbObb5tfY-00363-00079927-00080150 the name of the book is FaVbObb5tfY-00364-00080151-00080271 at least i remembered all the other FaVbObb5tfY-00365-00080272-00080511 details it was pretty good so what other FaVbObb5tfY-00366-00080512-00080743 good stories about your mom sharon do FaVbObb5tfY-00367-00080744-00080982 you have to share with us FaVbObb5tfY-00368-00080983-00081199 so i think i'll start you with one that FaVbObb5tfY-00369-00081200-00081294 um FaVbObb5tfY-00370-00081295-00081575 starts starts the book and i just to let FaVbObb5tfY-00371-00081576-00081831 you know the kind of mother FaVbObb5tfY-00372-00081832-00082023 that she was and FaVbObb5tfY-00373-00082024-00082191 that would be that FaVbObb5tfY-00374-00082192-00082382 i was probably FaVbObb5tfY-00375-00082383-00082615 we'll say it was the 80s and FaVbObb5tfY-00376-00082616-00082950 we're going to uh a local store to get FaVbObb5tfY-00377-00082951-00083191 some italian bread FaVbObb5tfY-00378-00083192-00083279 and FaVbObb5tfY-00379-00083280-00083511 i i wasn't uh FaVbObb5tfY-00380-00083512-00083711 i'm polish but we were going for italian FaVbObb5tfY-00381-00083712-00083967 bread that's like this this flaky bread FaVbObb5tfY-00382-00083968-00084191 that you eat with your dinner that you FaVbObb5tfY-00383-00084192-00084487 can just grab chunks off and eat by the FaVbObb5tfY-00384-00084488-00084711 like a whole loaf at the time right you FaVbObb5tfY-00385-00084712-00084911 just would hide up in your room eating FaVbObb5tfY-00386-00084912-00085006 this FaVbObb5tfY-00387-00085007-00085094 so FaVbObb5tfY-00388-00085095-00085438 and i i probably was FaVbObb5tfY-00389-00085439-00085750 seven six years old and i i i FaVbObb5tfY-00390-00085751-00086150 admit that i was a goofy kid FaVbObb5tfY-00391-00086151-00086591 it took me many years to grow out of uh FaVbObb5tfY-00392-00086592-00086759 giant teeth and FaVbObb5tfY-00393-00086760-00086975 big pot god in FaVbObb5tfY-00394-00086976-00087199 my mom cut my hair like a beetle FaVbObb5tfY-00395-00087200-00087415 so um FaVbObb5tfY-00396-00087416-00087638 so i'm watching her FaVbObb5tfY-00397-00087639-00087903 i go on and on so i'm watching her go FaVbObb5tfY-00398-00087904-00088023 into this FaVbObb5tfY-00399-00088024-00088247 local store and there's some kids out in FaVbObb5tfY-00400-00088248-00088343 the FaVbObb5tfY-00401-00088344-00088567 um FaVbObb5tfY-00402-00088568-00088871 right in their bmx's in the parking lot FaVbObb5tfY-00403-00088872-00089062 probably teenagers FaVbObb5tfY-00404-00089063-00089238 and i'm just in the car playing with FaVbObb5tfY-00405-00089239-00089423 these wrestlers right FaVbObb5tfY-00406-00089424-00089559 and FaVbObb5tfY-00407-00089560-00089806 little like hulk hogan type rubber FaVbObb5tfY-00408-00089807-00090031 wrestlers you know she walks in and this FaVbObb5tfY-00409-00090032-00090271 is in the day where you could leave a FaVbObb5tfY-00410-00090272-00090447 kid in the car for FaVbObb5tfY-00411-00090448-00090711 to walk into the store it's the 80s FaVbObb5tfY-00412-00090712-00090887 um probably didn't have a seat belt FaVbObb5tfY-00413-00090888-00091143 either back then but FaVbObb5tfY-00414-00091144-00091391 anyway i'm watching the kids play and i FaVbObb5tfY-00415-00091392-00091647 can see them start to harass me FaVbObb5tfY-00416-00091648-00091903 for my looks and those types of things FaVbObb5tfY-00417-00091904-00092126 like that well and they just FaVbObb5tfY-00418-00092127-00092359 but my mom's in the store i'm safe as FaVbObb5tfY-00419-00092360-00092687 the young i'm safe right i'm in the door FaVbObb5tfY-00420-00092688-00092831 they're just FaVbObb5tfY-00421-00092832-00093015 pointing at me making fun of me like FaVbObb5tfY-00422-00093016-00093311 that kind of thing progressively but FaVbObb5tfY-00423-00093312-00093615 maybe it hurt but not FaVbObb5tfY-00424-00093616-00093791 just that's how it was FaVbObb5tfY-00425-00093792-00093887 and FaVbObb5tfY-00426-00093888-00094055 my mom come out and they were a little FaVbObb5tfY-00427-00094056-00094287 closer to the car at the time FaVbObb5tfY-00428-00094288-00094391 and FaVbObb5tfY-00429-00094392-00094655 my mom scooted them away because she was FaVbObb5tfY-00430-00094656-00094959 not a fan of nonsense in any way never FaVbObb5tfY-00431-00094960-00095159 especially when she could tell they were FaVbObb5tfY-00432-00095160-00095415 probably not being nice to me mom was a FaVbObb5tfY-00433-00095416-00095559 protector FaVbObb5tfY-00434-00095560-00095711 so FaVbObb5tfY-00435-00095712-00096143 as we as we pull away FaVbObb5tfY-00436-00096144-00096415 the kid one of the older kids FaVbObb5tfY-00437-00096416-00096682 spits in the window on me FaVbObb5tfY-00438-00096683-00097031 and runs off on his dirt bike FaVbObb5tfY-00439-00097032-00097135 you know FaVbObb5tfY-00440-00097136-00097311 it was a pedal bike but runs off on his FaVbObb5tfY-00441-00097312-00097582 pedal bike goes that way goes right my FaVbObb5tfY-00442-00097583-00097750 mom gets in the car FaVbObb5tfY-00443-00097751-00098006 turns the ignition on backs out as fast FaVbObb5tfY-00444-00098007-00098262 as you can goes left right they're FaVbObb5tfY-00445-00098263-00098431 completely different direction and we go FaVbObb5tfY-00446-00098432-00098511 through FaVbObb5tfY-00447-00098512-00098711 we make like a big FaVbObb5tfY-00448-00098712-00098950 box of right angles around the FaVbObb5tfY-00449-00098951-00099111 neighborhood as fast as you can she's FaVbObb5tfY-00450-00099112-00099231 zooming around the neighborhood i don't FaVbObb5tfY-00451-00099232-00099431 know where she's going i just know she's FaVbObb5tfY-00452-00099432-00099550 not happy FaVbObb5tfY-00453-00099551-00099855 all of a sudden we get to FaVbObb5tfY-00454-00099856-00100135 face to face with that teenager again FaVbObb5tfY-00455-00100136-00100431 he's on the road he sees us drops his FaVbObb5tfY-00456-00100432-00100759 bike runs off my mom gets out of the car FaVbObb5tfY-00457-00100760-00101062 and runs down like she's like i don't FaVbObb5tfY-00458-00101063-00101206 know what my mom thinks she's gonna do FaVbObb5tfY-00459-00101207-00101438 she's not like tough or anything but she FaVbObb5tfY-00460-00101439-00101726 was when it came to defending me FaVbObb5tfY-00461-00101727-00101847 and FaVbObb5tfY-00462-00101848-00101959 runs down FaVbObb5tfY-00463-00101960-00102167 runs through this kids the group of FaVbObb5tfY-00464-00102168-00102287 friends there FaVbObb5tfY-00465-00102288-00102399 and there FaVbObb5tfY-00466-00102400-00102623 you know they spread like the FaVbObb5tfY-00467-00102624-00102830 red sea or whatever it is and FaVbObb5tfY-00468-00102831-00103063 she gets up she gets and you see her FaVbObb5tfY-00469-00103064-00103239 talking to this kid FaVbObb5tfY-00470-00103240-00103351 and FaVbObb5tfY-00471-00103352-00103527 a few minutes later FaVbObb5tfY-00472-00103528-00103742 he walks up to the car FaVbObb5tfY-00473-00103743-00103966 like signals for me to roll down the FaVbObb5tfY-00474-00103967-00104127 window a little more FaVbObb5tfY-00475-00104128-00104215 i FaVbObb5tfY-00476-00104216-00104415 wind them down that's how it was FaVbObb5tfY-00477-00104416-00104502 and FaVbObb5tfY-00478-00104503-00104678 he puts out his hand and he shakes my FaVbObb5tfY-00479-00104679-00104871 hand and apologizes FaVbObb5tfY-00480-00104872-00105023 and FaVbObb5tfY-00481-00105024-00105247 mom comes back to the car the kid goes FaVbObb5tfY-00482-00105248-00105383 this other way FaVbObb5tfY-00483-00105383-00105654 and she never said another word about it FaVbObb5tfY-00484-00105655-00105766 and FaVbObb5tfY-00485-00105767-00105943 my whole life FaVbObb5tfY-00486-00105944-00106207 my mom protected me like that so i FaVbObb5tfY-00487-00106208-00106534 consider it my duty FaVbObb5tfY-00488-00106535-00106727 to protect her in whatever way i can FaVbObb5tfY-00489-00106728-00106807 from FaVbObb5tfY-00490-00106808-00107054 the homes we pick to how her bills are FaVbObb5tfY-00491-00107055-00107215 paid to FaVbObb5tfY-00492-00107216-00107390 the food that she FaVbObb5tfY-00493-00107391-00107599 eats to the choices i get made to FaVbObb5tfY-00494-00107600-00107990 whatever i have to do and it is all that FaVbObb5tfY-00495-00107991-00108351 she protected me like that and FaVbObb5tfY-00496-00108352-00108463 i just FaVbObb5tfY-00497-00108464-00108766 hope that i can do her justice and FaVbObb5tfY-00498-00108767-00108958 protect her the same way and it FaVbObb5tfY-00499-00108959-00109207 continued like that my whole life from FaVbObb5tfY-00500-00109208-00109439 helping me at a restaurant uh helping me FaVbObb5tfY-00501-00109440-00109607 with school to FaVbObb5tfY-00502-00109608-00109823 whatever to even watching my children FaVbObb5tfY-00503-00109824-00109910 when they FaVbObb5tfY-00504-00109911-00110183 were a little older FaVbObb5tfY-00505-00110183-00110351 my mom FaVbObb5tfY-00506-00110352-00110854 doted on my daughter my daughter is FaVbObb5tfY-00507-00110855-00111023 14 years i just wanted to make sure i FaVbObb5tfY-00508-00111024-00111247 had the math right 14 years older than FaVbObb5tfY-00509-00111248-00111447 the next granddaughter FaVbObb5tfY-00510-00111448-00111654 and then my my nephew is younger than FaVbObb5tfY-00511-00111655-00111790 his sister FaVbObb5tfY-00512-00111791-00111983 so my daughter got all the good years FaVbObb5tfY-00513-00111983-00112199 with my mom which doesn't make my sister FaVbObb5tfY-00514-00112200-00112415 happy but this is life FaVbObb5tfY-00515-00112416-00112678 so i can relate to that one just FaVbObb5tfY-00516-00112679-00112863 she just she taught my daughter how to FaVbObb5tfY-00517-00112864-00112958 bake FaVbObb5tfY-00518-00112959-00113095 my daughter loved to make the sugar FaVbObb5tfY-00519-00113096-00113334 cookies that she had to roll out cut FaVbObb5tfY-00520-00113335-00113534 decorate you know not the simple FaVbObb5tfY-00521-00113535-00113710 chocolate chip cookie that was my mom's FaVbObb5tfY-00522-00113711-00114007 favorite now we had to do the hard stuff FaVbObb5tfY-00523-00114008-00114078 but FaVbObb5tfY-00524-00114079-00114302 you you said something that i want to FaVbObb5tfY-00525-00114303-00114495 circle back to slightly FaVbObb5tfY-00526-00114496-00114671 you said FaVbObb5tfY-00527-00114672-00114823 you want to make sure that you're doing FaVbObb5tfY-00528-00114824-00115143 everything to protect her including FaVbObb5tfY-00529-00115144-00115390 the care home that you chose how did you FaVbObb5tfY-00530-00115391-00115583 guys it's you and your sister right i FaVbObb5tfY-00531-00115583-00115751 have to confess i've only read part of FaVbObb5tfY-00532-00115752-00115854 the book FaVbObb5tfY-00533-00115855-00116190 so because my life has been crazy lately FaVbObb5tfY-00534-00116191-00116439 so i have a sister that i my dad is FaVbObb5tfY-00535-00116440-00116534 around FaVbObb5tfY-00536-00116535-00116751 he still works six days he still works FaVbObb5tfY-00537-00116752-00116990 six days a week so he's had a business FaVbObb5tfY-00538-00116991-00117143 for about 50 years old school FaVbObb5tfY-00539-00117144-00117439 businessman and my sister is across the FaVbObb5tfY-00540-00117440-00117543 country FaVbObb5tfY-00541-00117544-00117871 in dallas and i'm in pittsburgh FaVbObb5tfY-00542-00117872-00118119 okay so so the question was how did we FaVbObb5tfY-00543-00118120-00118334 choose FaVbObb5tfY-00544-00118335-00118471 so FaVbObb5tfY-00545-00118472-00118727 it becomes very stressful as FaVbObb5tfY-00546-00118728-00119031 your listeners know or as as you know FaVbObb5tfY-00547-00119032-00119358 and it it really became FaVbObb5tfY-00548-00119359-00119454 one FaVbObb5tfY-00549-00119455-00119766 i'll go back that my mom fell FaVbObb5tfY-00550-00119767-00119958 and they lived my parents lived in an FaVbObb5tfY-00551-00119959-00120166 old farmhouse and we were probably FaVbObb5tfY-00552-00120167-00120263 heading FaVbObb5tfY-00553-00120264-00120534 this direction for a while that we FaVbObb5tfY-00554-00120535-00120790 probably should have made a choice FaVbObb5tfY-00555-00120791-00121023 sooner to take her out of my parents FaVbObb5tfY-00556-00121024-00121190 house my dad works FaVbObb5tfY-00557-00121191-00121334 six days a week FaVbObb5tfY-00558-00121335-00121534 they live in a farmhouse with steps on FaVbObb5tfY-00559-00121535-00121910 steps the steps have steps right FaVbObb5tfY-00560-00121911-00122271 so every edition has steps and things FaVbObb5tfY-00561-00122272-00122510 trip steps it just FaVbObb5tfY-00562-00122511-00122751 but she ended up falling FaVbObb5tfY-00563-00122752-00122871 and FaVbObb5tfY-00564-00122872-00123063 we did we didn't even know she felt she FaVbObb5tfY-00565-00123064-00123495 was just basically catatonic at home and FaVbObb5tfY-00566-00123496-00123653 we had to FaVbObb5tfY-00567-00123654-00123799 [Music] FaVbObb5tfY-00568-00123800-00124054 call 9-1-1 to come get her FaVbObb5tfY-00569-00124055-00124231 and at that point it actually took him FaVbObb5tfY-00570-00124232-00124471 days in the hospital to even realize FaVbObb5tfY-00571-00124472-00124671 that she had fallen because she really FaVbObb5tfY-00572-00124672-00124878 couldn't communicate FaVbObb5tfY-00573-00124879-00125078 much and FaVbObb5tfY-00574-00125079-00125399 so it led to first it was occupational FaVbObb5tfY-00575-00125400-00125599 rehab and it was from there FaVbObb5tfY-00576-00125600-00125678 what FaVbObb5tfY-00577-00125679-00125934 home would be willing to take FaVbObb5tfY-00578-00125935-00126047 um FaVbObb5tfY-00579-00126048-00126263 somebody with alzheimer's at my mom's FaVbObb5tfY-00580-00126264-00126351 level FaVbObb5tfY-00581-00126352-00126463 right because FaVbObb5tfY-00582-00126464-00126783 she's not able to do a lot of things or FaVbObb5tfY-00583-00126783-00127014 communicate all the time like sometimes FaVbObb5tfY-00584-00127015-00127223 she can sometimes she can get a sentence FaVbObb5tfY-00585-00127224-00127527 out i look at it as FaVbObb5tfY-00586-00127528-00127790 sometimes i get five seconds right i FaVbObb5tfY-00587-00127791-00128071 might mo i don't get i might get five FaVbObb5tfY-00588-00128072-00128190 seconds FaVbObb5tfY-00589-00128191-00128399 in a day and it's to say FaVbObb5tfY-00590-00128400-00128678 that's not what my mother looked like or FaVbObb5tfY-00591-00128679-00128934 something to that effect but then FaVbObb5tfY-00592-00128935-00129158 i i don't know but i'll take that five FaVbObb5tfY-00593-00129159-00129471 seconds every time so any moment of FaVbObb5tfY-00594-00129472-00129631 clarity even though that's not she FaVbObb5tfY-00595-00129632-00129958 doesn't know me or no my fam you know FaVbObb5tfY-00596-00129959-00130207 but sometimes i think sometimes i think FaVbObb5tfY-00597-00130208-00130454 she knows me sometimes i see her smile FaVbObb5tfY-00598-00130455-00130575 and i think FaVbObb5tfY-00599-00130576-00130854 she knows she knows that person FaVbObb5tfY-00600-00130855-00131095 so a lot so that FaVbObb5tfY-00601-00131096-00131343 we were limited to the places we could FaVbObb5tfY-00602-00131344-00131527 choose but FaVbObb5tfY-00603-00131528-00131775 me and my dad live about 15 minutes FaVbObb5tfY-00604-00131776-00131871 apart FaVbObb5tfY-00605-00131872-00132135 and we were able to find a place that FaVbObb5tfY-00606-00132136-00132383 is about six minutes from me FaVbObb5tfY-00607-00132384-00132607 and about 10 minutes from him FaVbObb5tfY-00608-00132608-00132919 so i i really can be there in six FaVbObb5tfY-00609-00132920-00133078 minutes and they allow visitors all the FaVbObb5tfY-00610-00133079-00133375 time so sometimes i go twice in one day FaVbObb5tfY-00611-00133376-00133639 sometimes i go at nine o'clock at night FaVbObb5tfY-00612-00133640-00133902 sometimes i go at seven in the morning FaVbObb5tfY-00613-00133903-00134166 this is more pre-covered when you could FaVbObb5tfY-00614-00134167-00134447 go up now the i can still show up when i FaVbObb5tfY-00615-00134448-00134783 want but it's more outside visits and FaVbObb5tfY-00616-00134784-00135031 during covet it was completely different FaVbObb5tfY-00617-00135032-00135199 and a lot of the FaVbObb5tfY-00618-00135200-00135390 the book does document FaVbObb5tfY-00619-00135391-00135543 like FaVbObb5tfY-00620-00135544-00135775 what happened during covet and how we FaVbObb5tfY-00621-00135776-00135999 didn't get to see our loved ones as much FaVbObb5tfY-00622-00136000-00136223 and the hurt of that but FaVbObb5tfY-00623-00136224-00136535 that all those are how we came up with FaVbObb5tfY-00624-00136536-00136654 uh FaVbObb5tfY-00625-00136655-00136831 um FaVbObb5tfY-00626-00136832-00137014 where where she's living and they're FaVbObb5tfY-00627-00137015-00137359 doing uh they've done a spectacular job FaVbObb5tfY-00628-00137360-00137447 they FaVbObb5tfY-00629-00137448-00137695 i feel like i feel FaVbObb5tfY-00630-00137696-00138014 that they love her FaVbObb5tfY-00631-00138015-00138119 i can FaVbObb5tfY-00632-00138120-00138335 fully understand that FaVbObb5tfY-00633-00138336-00138695 for new listeners and for yourself FaVbObb5tfY-00634-00138696-00138839 we had a plan FaVbObb5tfY-00635-00138840-00139095 for well my dad was on hospice my sister FaVbObb5tfY-00636-00139096-00139359 and i who agree on nothing FaVbObb5tfY-00637-00139360-00139566 period like FaVbObb5tfY-00638-00139567-00139783 nothing i'm not even sure we would agree FaVbObb5tfY-00639-00139784-00139959 that we agree on nothing that's how bad FaVbObb5tfY-00640-00139960-00140135 it is FaVbObb5tfY-00641-00140136-00140478 we had a plan and our aunt had taken FaVbObb5tfY-00642-00140479-00140790 care of my grandmother her mom FaVbObb5tfY-00643-00140791-00141071 who had vascular dementia FaVbObb5tfY-00644-00141072-00141351 and FaVbObb5tfY-00645-00141352-00141559 i've never never understood how this our FaVbObb5tfY-00646-00141560-00141839 family ended up on this path but FaVbObb5tfY-00647-00141840-00142014 my aunt ended up living on grandma's FaVbObb5tfY-00648-00142015-00142302 social security okay seemed fair you FaVbObb5tfY-00649-00142303-00142478 know she was doing all the heavy lifting FaVbObb5tfY-00650-00142479-00142654 except for the fact that my grandmother FaVbObb5tfY-00651-00142655-00142887 died and my aunt had nothing FaVbObb5tfY-00652-00142888-00143207 so my aunt is on welfare assist you know FaVbObb5tfY-00653-00143208-00143511 um housing assistance and my sister and FaVbObb5tfY-00654-00143512-00143631 i FaVbObb5tfY-00655-00143632-00143743 felt that FaVbObb5tfY-00656-00143744-00143902 we could move her into mom and dad's FaVbObb5tfY-00657-00143903-00144126 house she could FaVbObb5tfY-00658-00144127-00144343 pretty much manage the care we would FaVbObb5tfY-00659-00144344-00144607 still bring in a caregiver FaVbObb5tfY-00660-00144608-00144783 for so my aunt didn't have to do all the FaVbObb5tfY-00661-00144784-00144975 heavy lifting my aunt's like 11 years FaVbObb5tfY-00662-00144976-00145207 younger than mom so you know she's not FaVbObb5tfY-00663-00145208-00145478 young but she's not old either but FaVbObb5tfY-00664-00145479-00145671 i FaVbObb5tfY-00665-00145672-00145926 went into the deep dark recesses of FaVbObb5tfY-00666-00145927-00146135 negativity which is not hard not hard FaVbObb5tfY-00667-00146136-00146247 for me to do FaVbObb5tfY-00668-00146248-00146535 and i thought now what if and i list FaVbObb5tfY-00669-00146536-00146663 thought of some FaVbObb5tfY-00670-00146664-00146895 negative scenarios how would i feel FaVbObb5tfY-00671-00146896-00147102 about them how would i handle them what FaVbObb5tfY-00672-00147103-00147254 would we do FaVbObb5tfY-00673-00147255-00147487 and i came to the conclusion FaVbObb5tfY-00674-00147488-00147711 this is not a good solution anymore so i FaVbObb5tfY-00675-00147712-00147959 went and looked for a memory care FaVbObb5tfY-00676-00147960-00148223 residence and at the time there was one FaVbObb5tfY-00677-00148224-00148414 literally a mile down the hill from my FaVbObb5tfY-00678-00148415-00148519 house FaVbObb5tfY-00679-00148520-00148647 and FaVbObb5tfY-00680-00148648-00148878 i knew it wasn't a great place my FaVbObb5tfY-00681-00148879-00149054 husband went and looked at it he came FaVbObb5tfY-00682-00149055-00149271 home he looked like he'd just come back FaVbObb5tfY-00683-00149272-00149351 from FaVbObb5tfY-00684-00149352-00149599 the morgue or he'd seen a ghost he's FaVbObb5tfY-00685-00149600-00149783 like i would never put anybody's parents FaVbObb5tfY-00686-00149784-00149871 there FaVbObb5tfY-00687-00149872-00150102 not quite sure they're that bad but FaVbObb5tfY-00688-00150103-00150263 they weren't they weren't on the top of FaVbObb5tfY-00689-00150264-00150575 the list even though i mean ridiculously FaVbObb5tfY-00690-00150576-00150743 close i would have had to work hard not FaVbObb5tfY-00691-00150744-00150926 to go see her FaVbObb5tfY-00692-00150927-00151119 so i started looking around did not FaVbObb5tfY-00693-00151120-00151319 mention my sister that i had leaped off FaVbObb5tfY-00694-00151320-00151495 the one page of agreement that we were FaVbObb5tfY-00695-00151496-00151583 on FaVbObb5tfY-00696-00151584-00151695 and FaVbObb5tfY-00697-00151696-00151878 found this one place FaVbObb5tfY-00698-00151879-00152095 talked to them and i FaVbObb5tfY-00699-00152096-00152359 off hand made the comment i'm just gonna FaVbObb5tfY-00700-00152360-00152502 have to figure out what to do with her FaVbObb5tfY-00701-00152503-00152847 dog unfortunately my dogs don't like her FaVbObb5tfY-00702-00152848-00153047 dog and that's so she can't come live FaVbObb5tfY-00703-00153048-00153190 with me and they looked at me and they FaVbObb5tfY-00704-00153191-00153278 said FaVbObb5tfY-00705-00153279-00153471 oh we could probably work something out FaVbObb5tfY-00706-00153472-00153719 and i literally like flung open my purse FaVbObb5tfY-00707-00153720-00153902 i'm like how much do you want as a FaVbObb5tfY-00708-00153903-00154095 deposit i was just like here's money FaVbObb5tfY-00709-00154096-00154319 take it away i like and then i FaVbObb5tfY-00710-00154320-00154511 afterwards and talking to people like FaVbObb5tfY-00711-00154512-00154783 yourself i realized i did no google FaVbObb5tfY-00712-00154784-00155014 searching no vetting did not talk to FaVbObb5tfY-00713-00155015-00155190 anybody did not look at any reviews FaVbObb5tfY-00714-00155191-00155463 nothing it was all gut instinct FaVbObb5tfY-00715-00155464-00155687 and thankfully my gut was good FaVbObb5tfY-00716-00155688-00156023 because they were also super wonderful FaVbObb5tfY-00717-00156024-00156207 they put up at the the last year my FaVbObb5tfY-00718-00156208-00156375 mom's life she was FaVbObb5tfY-00719-00156376-00156566 she would get frustrated and she would FaVbObb5tfY-00720-00156567-00156814 literally claw people and they and i was FaVbObb5tfY-00721-00156815-00157023 so embarrassed because like my mom would FaVbObb5tfY-00722-00157024-00157214 never do something like that that was FaVbObb5tfY-00723-00157215-00157414 totally she might FaVbObb5tfY-00724-00157415-00157543 i don't want to say you out but FaVbObb5tfY-00725-00157544-00157687 that's the only term that's coming to FaVbObb5tfY-00726-00157688-00157814 mind FaVbObb5tfY-00727-00157815-00158023 that's she might do that FaVbObb5tfY-00728-00158024-00158254 but she would never physically harm FaVbObb5tfY-00729-00158255-00158551 somebody and so it was just it was it FaVbObb5tfY-00730-00158552-00158678 was really hard to handle and they're FaVbObb5tfY-00731-00158679-00158878 like oh no it's fine if i'm like no it's FaVbObb5tfY-00732-00158879-00159007 not fine FaVbObb5tfY-00733-00159008-00159102 and FaVbObb5tfY-00734-00159103-00159366 so they were just wonderful for her and FaVbObb5tfY-00735-00159367-00159478 you know but FaVbObb5tfY-00736-00159479-00159759 you made a point that i like to FaVbObb5tfY-00737-00159760-00159990 stress you said you probably waited too FaVbObb5tfY-00738-00159991-00160078 long FaVbObb5tfY-00739-00160079-00160390 and i am notorious if somebody online on FaVbObb5tfY-00740-00160391-00160607 instagram or facebook says ask the FaVbObb5tfY-00741-00160608-00160719 question FaVbObb5tfY-00742-00160720-00160919 when do you know it's time for memory FaVbObb5tfY-00743-00160920-00161199 care and my pat answer is if you're FaVbObb5tfY-00744-00161200-00161399 asking it's past time FaVbObb5tfY-00745-00161400-00161590 i'm very blunt about that answer so i'm FaVbObb5tfY-00746-00161591-00161871 assuming you kind of feel the same way FaVbObb5tfY-00747-00161872-00162254 yeah and it's a such a hard conversation FaVbObb5tfY-00748-00162255-00162471 it would be great FaVbObb5tfY-00749-00162472-00162702 one of the things that people have told FaVbObb5tfY-00750-00162703-00162951 me since reading the book is FaVbObb5tfY-00751-00162952-00163223 that they started planning FaVbObb5tfY-00752-00163224-00163439 what they would do what their he one of FaVbObb5tfY-00753-00163440-00163559 the gentlemen said FaVbObb5tfY-00754-00163560-00163863 i had to have a talk with my wife about FaVbObb5tfY-00755-00163864-00163990 what we were going to do and that was FaVbObb5tfY-00756-00163991-00164231 not something i ever intended right FaVbObb5tfY-00757-00164232-00164471 because those plans were never made FaVbObb5tfY-00758-00164472-00164695 and my parents didn't have those kind of FaVbObb5tfY-00759-00164696-00164895 plans it just FaVbObb5tfY-00760-00164896-00165143 it happened and so FaVbObb5tfY-00761-00165144-00165247 i don't know how you have that FaVbObb5tfY-00762-00165248-00165375 conversation FaVbObb5tfY-00763-00165376-00165638 prior with somebody that it's it's one FaVbObb5tfY-00764-00165639-00165783 of those things where FaVbObb5tfY-00765-00165784-00166143 i say if you love somebody and you make FaVbObb5tfY-00766-00166144-00166390 a decision out of love with their best FaVbObb5tfY-00767-00166391-00166559 interest in mind FaVbObb5tfY-00768-00166560-00166735 then you did a pretty good job so there FaVbObb5tfY-00769-00166736-00166887 are times FaVbObb5tfY-00770-00166888-00167087 as a parent i have two children right FaVbObb5tfY-00771-00167088-00167175 where FaVbObb5tfY-00772-00167176-00167351 it would be easier FaVbObb5tfY-00773-00167352-00167463 to do FaVbObb5tfY-00774-00167464-00167702 to not correct my children to let them FaVbObb5tfY-00775-00167703-00167995 do something destructive to let them FaVbObb5tfY-00776-00167996-00168135 [Music] FaVbObb5tfY-00777-00168136-00168447 but learn on their own but as a dad i FaVbObb5tfY-00778-00168448-00168599 have to FaVbObb5tfY-00779-00168600-00169038 try to give them values and lessons that FaVbObb5tfY-00780-00169039-00169287 when they're 18 21 that makes them a FaVbObb5tfY-00781-00169288-00169431 good person that they can be a FaVbObb5tfY-00782-00169432-00169647 productive member of society so FaVbObb5tfY-00783-00169648-00169807 sometimes you have to make the harder FaVbObb5tfY-00784-00169808-00169902 right FaVbObb5tfY-00785-00169903-00170151 and that's what i would say in that case FaVbObb5tfY-00786-00170152-00170375 to anybody wondering FaVbObb5tfY-00787-00170376-00170502 about FaVbObb5tfY-00788-00170503-00170807 should i put mom dad in a home loved one FaVbObb5tfY-00789-00170808-00171159 make the harder right well you know FaVbObb5tfY-00790-00171160-00171359 you that person already knows right what FaVbObb5tfY-00791-00171360-00171487 should you do well FaVbObb5tfY-00792-00171488-00171711 fight like hell and figure it out right FaVbObb5tfY-00793-00171712-00171902 because it's not going to get easier FaVbObb5tfY-00794-00171903-00172119 it's gonna it's going to get worse and i FaVbObb5tfY-00795-00172120-00172311 had the guilt because maybe i waited too FaVbObb5tfY-00796-00172312-00172559 long maybe my mom would have never fell FaVbObb5tfY-00797-00172560-00172726 maybe i would have saved her from FaVbObb5tfY-00798-00172727-00173143 embarrassing situations maybe FaVbObb5tfY-00799-00173144-00173319 maybe i could have just been more loving FaVbObb5tfY-00800-00173320-00173431 had i FaVbObb5tfY-00801-00173432-00173623 may had i FaVbObb5tfY-00802-00173624-00173919 done had i made the harley right FaVbObb5tfY-00803-00173920-00174319 if you carry yesterday you have no time FaVbObb5tfY-00804-00174320-00174966 for today FaVbObb5tfY-00805-00174967-00175207 when we stop learning we start dying FaVbObb5tfY-00806-00175208-00175399 keep your mind sharp FaVbObb5tfY-00807-00175400-00175748 pursue knowledge for its own sake FaVbObb5tfY-00808-00175749-00176126 [Music] FaVbObb5tfY-00809-00176127-00176278 my father did not know the difference FaVbObb5tfY-00810-00176279-00176431 between boys and girls there was no FaVbObb5tfY-00811-00176432-00176606 double standard ever FaVbObb5tfY-00812-00176607-00176799 [Music] FaVbObb5tfY-00813-00176800-00177175 hi i'm aaron davis elder wisdom stories FaVbObb5tfY-00814-00177176-00177454 from the green bench began as a way for FaVbObb5tfY-00815-00177455-00177711 seniors including residents at schlegel FaVbObb5tfY-00816-00177712-00177966 village's long-term care and retirement FaVbObb5tfY-00817-00177967-00178343 homes to share their stories and wisdom FaVbObb5tfY-00818-00178344-00178647 this podcast is a loving extension of FaVbObb5tfY-00819-00178648-00178999 that it's a virtual place to share learn FaVbObb5tfY-00820-00179000-00179335 grow laugh and yeah sometimes shed a FaVbObb5tfY-00821-00179336-00179654 tear or two in the words of ron schlegel FaVbObb5tfY-00822-00179655-00179951 the greatest untapped resource in canada FaVbObb5tfY-00823-00179952-00180199 if not the world is the collective FaVbObb5tfY-00824-00180200-00180551 wisdom of our elders so join us as we FaVbObb5tfY-00825-00180552-00180887 speak with and listen to seniors and FaVbObb5tfY-00826-00180888-00181151 those working in senior care FaVbObb5tfY-00827-00181152-00181407 subscribe to our podcast today and FaVbObb5tfY-00828-00181408-00181759 remember your seat on the green bench is FaVbObb5tfY-00829-00181760-00182164 ready and waiting FaVbObb5tfY-00830-00182165-00182359 [Music] FaVbObb5tfY-00831-00182360-00182590 well i can i can tell you this is FaVbObb5tfY-00832-00182591-00182878 this is how i soften my if you're asking FaVbObb5tfY-00833-00182879-00183159 the question it's too it's pastime blunt FaVbObb5tfY-00834-00183160-00183302 answer FaVbObb5tfY-00835-00183303-00183454 is FaVbObb5tfY-00836-00183455-00183647 you know a lot of people have a FaVbObb5tfY-00837-00183648-00183823 misconception FaVbObb5tfY-00838-00183824-00184102 of the potentials of a memory care FaVbObb5tfY-00839-00184103-00184214 community FaVbObb5tfY-00840-00184215-00184575 my mom had friends and my listeners know FaVbObb5tfY-00841-00184576-00184775 my mom's name was diane FaVbObb5tfY-00842-00184776-00184990 she befriended a diane and they FaVbObb5tfY-00843-00184991-00185271 befriended a third diane FaVbObb5tfY-00844-00185272-00185454 you want to talk about confusing FaVbObb5tfY-00845-00185455-00185663 try talking to people with alzheimer's FaVbObb5tfY-00846-00185664-00185831 that all have the same name FaVbObb5tfY-00847-00185832-00185990 nobody knows who's talking about who FaVbObb5tfY-00848-00185991-00186166 it's just it was like FaVbObb5tfY-00849-00186167-00186414 so we in in our conversations it was FaVbObb5tfY-00850-00186415-00186590 always mom FaVbObb5tfY-00851-00186591-00186863 other diane and other other days FaVbObb5tfY-00852-00186864-00187047 and it was just crazy FaVbObb5tfY-00853-00187048-00187150 but FaVbObb5tfY-00854-00187151-00187311 had FaVbObb5tfY-00855-00187312-00187535 she moved into my house as my dad i FaVbObb5tfY-00856-00187536-00187711 found out after he died that was his FaVbObb5tfY-00857-00187712-00187943 plan without discussing it with me FaVbObb5tfY-00858-00187944-00188143 we would have had to hire a caregiver so FaVbObb5tfY-00859-00188144-00188302 that my husband and i could continue FaVbObb5tfY-00860-00188303-00188550 working because i was 50 at the time FaVbObb5tfY-00861-00188551-00188759 and my daughter had just moved out the FaVbObb5tfY-00862-00188760-00188902 month before and we were very much FaVbObb5tfY-00863-00188903-00189159 looking forward to like oh freedoms like FaVbObb5tfY-00864-00189160-00189350 our biggest responsibility besides FaVbObb5tfY-00865-00189351-00189550 ourselves is the two dogs FaVbObb5tfY-00866-00189551-00189702 i think there was two at the time we FaVbObb5tfY-00867-00189703-00189878 lost one FaVbObb5tfY-00868-00189879-00190014 yeah there was still two then there was FaVbObb5tfY-00869-00190015-00190278 three now we're back down to two it's FaVbObb5tfY-00870-00190279-00190407 crazy FaVbObb5tfY-00871-00190408-00190502 my mom FaVbObb5tfY-00872-00190503-00190750 in addition to having friends she also FaVbObb5tfY-00873-00190751-00190959 did activities FaVbObb5tfY-00874-00190960-00191271 there that she refused to do with me and FaVbObb5tfY-00875-00191272-00191526 never understood that still baffles me FaVbObb5tfY-00876-00191527-00191735 i'll never find that answer but FaVbObb5tfY-00877-00191736-00191895 that you know FaVbObb5tfY-00878-00191896-00192054 there was things that she she had FaVbObb5tfY-00879-00192055-00192183 friends that she wouldn't have had FaVbObb5tfY-00880-00192184-00192407 living with me she did activities that FaVbObb5tfY-00881-00192408-00192590 she wouldn't do with me so it was FaVbObb5tfY-00882-00192591-00192775 definitely FaVbObb5tfY-00883-00192776-00193031 a good quality of life for her is it FaVbObb5tfY-00884-00193032-00193238 what she wanted no FaVbObb5tfY-00885-00193239-00193631 the day before we moved her in FaVbObb5tfY-00886-00193632-00193711 i FaVbObb5tfY-00887-00193712-00194038 went to her house my hair person is in FaVbObb5tfY-00888-00194039-00194271 mom's town the town mom that i grew up FaVbObb5tfY-00889-00194272-00194407 in FaVbObb5tfY-00890-00194408-00194590 and i stopped off at mom's house to talk FaVbObb5tfY-00891-00194591-00194854 to the caregiver and the plan was FaVbObb5tfY-00892-00194855-00195087 for her when her shift was over to bring FaVbObb5tfY-00893-00195088-00195471 her to the salon and with the dog and FaVbObb5tfY-00894-00195472-00195663 mom's overnight bag FaVbObb5tfY-00895-00195664-00195911 and i would then take her home to my FaVbObb5tfY-00896-00195912-00196095 house and the next morning we'd take her FaVbObb5tfY-00897-00196096-00196326 to the care home FaVbObb5tfY-00898-00196327-00196471 my mom was leaning on the kitchen FaVbObb5tfY-00899-00196472-00196790 counter looking out the to the backyard FaVbObb5tfY-00900-00196791-00197063 that a nice view of the mountain that we FaVbObb5tfY-00901-00197064-00197278 live at the base of FaVbObb5tfY-00902-00197279-00197375 and FaVbObb5tfY-00903-00197376-00197631 our excuse was we need to move you out FaVbObb5tfY-00904-00197632-00197775 temporarily because there's some things FaVbObb5tfY-00905-00197776-00197935 we need to fix in this house which was FaVbObb5tfY-00906-00197936-00198238 true the temporary part wasn't true FaVbObb5tfY-00907-00198239-00198383 so she's leaning on the counter and she FaVbObb5tfY-00908-00198384-00198495 goes well you're not going to sell my FaVbObb5tfY-00909-00198496-00198647 house i'm like oh no no we're not we're FaVbObb5tfY-00910-00198648-00198878 not selling your house oh yes you want FaVbObb5tfY-00911-00198879-00199087 to talk about a moment of clarity she FaVbObb5tfY-00912-00199088-00199231 whips her head over and looks at me and FaVbObb5tfY-00913-00199232-00199414 she goes you're not renting it out FaVbObb5tfY-00914-00199415-00199550 either i'm like FaVbObb5tfY-00915-00199551-00199726 um yes we are FaVbObb5tfY-00916-00199727-00200023 oh pain agony so i drive to this hair FaVbObb5tfY-00917-00200024-00200326 salon right pull into the turn lane that FaVbObb5tfY-00918-00200327-00200671 had curbs on both sides sliced both FaVbObb5tfY-00919-00200672-00200943 tires on my 18 month old car on the FaVbObb5tfY-00920-00200944-00201135 right side FaVbObb5tfY-00921-00201136-00201319 and then i had to call a tow truck and FaVbObb5tfY-00922-00201320-00201471 then i had to go to the tire place with FaVbObb5tfY-00923-00201472-00201759 my mom and the dog it was just like not FaVbObb5tfY-00924-00201760-00201919 fun FaVbObb5tfY-00925-00201920-00201990 right FaVbObb5tfY-00926-00201991-00202119 yeah that FaVbObb5tfY-00927-00202120-00202271 that was that was that was up there FaVbObb5tfY-00928-00202272-00202502 about a one out of ten you know FaVbObb5tfY-00929-00202503-00202759 and thankfully you know my hair gal got FaVbObb5tfY-00930-00202760-00202943 everything that she needed to get done FaVbObb5tfY-00931-00202944-00203095 except dry it FaVbObb5tfY-00932-00203096-00203359 and this was march so yeah you don't FaVbObb5tfY-00933-00203360-00203566 really want to run around with wet hair FaVbObb5tfY-00934-00203567-00203702 i would prefer not to run around in FaVbObb5tfY-00935-00203703-00203895 public with wet hair but that was my FaVbObb5tfY-00936-00203896-00204047 only option FaVbObb5tfY-00937-00204048-00204254 and we had to go to the tire place and FaVbObb5tfY-00938-00204255-00204407 they're putting on the tires and you FaVbObb5tfY-00939-00204408-00204559 know the um FaVbObb5tfY-00940-00204560-00204735 was that the air went with the brick FaVbObb5tfY-00941-00204736-00204927 where they put on the lug nuts FaVbObb5tfY-00942-00204928-00205103 every time that noise happened my mom FaVbObb5tfY-00943-00205104-00205279 jumped and then she'd complain so you FaVbObb5tfY-00944-00205280-00205446 know it wasn't like i was already FaVbObb5tfY-00945-00205448-00205671 stressed out and upset enough so and FaVbObb5tfY-00946-00205671-00205934 then the next day was even worse because FaVbObb5tfY-00947-00205935-00206086 you would have thought that we had left FaVbObb5tfY-00948-00206087-00206294 my mom in prison she begged and pleaded FaVbObb5tfY-00949-00206296-00206462 not to get leave there what are we why FaVbObb5tfY-00950-00206463-00206638 are you doing this to me FaVbObb5tfY-00951-00206639-00206823 and then she basically clung to the dog FaVbObb5tfY-00952-00206823-00206990 and acted like my sister and i were dead FaVbObb5tfY-00953-00206991-00207190 to her so yeah it was real fun FaVbObb5tfY-00954-00207191-00207494 so waiting too long is not a good idea FaVbObb5tfY-00955-00207496-00207631 because it's FaVbObb5tfY-00956-00207632-00207934 not easy and it will never get easy FaVbObb5tfY-00957-00207935-00208158 but springing on them like that is when FaVbObb5tfY-00958-00208159-00208238 they're FaVbObb5tfY-00959-00208239-00208431 already later in the stages and they FaVbObb5tfY-00960-00208432-00208686 don't understand what's going on and why FaVbObb5tfY-00961-00208687-00208934 it's the right choice is just FaVbObb5tfY-00962-00208935-00209214 yeah it was not how i recommend doing it FaVbObb5tfY-00963-00209215-00209423 but i can answer the question of how you FaVbObb5tfY-00964-00209423-00209662 have this conversation and it should be FaVbObb5tfY-00965-00209663-00209863 easier for people like you and i i know FaVbObb5tfY-00966-00209864-00210079 we've done it FaVbObb5tfY-00967-00210080-00210327 i only have one daughter she will be 30 FaVbObb5tfY-00968-00210328-00210703 in november this is september 23rd FaVbObb5tfY-00969-00210704-00210934 and FaVbObb5tfY-00970-00210935-00211175 my husband is an only child so it's like FaVbObb5tfY-00971-00211176-00211327 there's just the there's just the four FaVbObb5tfY-00972-00211328-00211494 of us my daughter's got she'll be FaVbObb5tfY-00973-00211496-00211719 getting married next year yay FaVbObb5tfY-00974-00211719-00211871 so there's just the four of us and the FaVbObb5tfY-00975-00211871-00212094 dogs in their cat FaVbObb5tfY-00976-00212096-00212239 and FaVbObb5tfY-00977-00212240-00212415 having to clean out my parents house FaVbObb5tfY-00978-00212416-00212551 they they weren't hoarders but they FaVbObb5tfY-00979-00212552-00212806 lived there for almost 47 years FaVbObb5tfY-00980-00212807-00212951 you know it's just like how much this FaVbObb5tfY-00981-00212952-00213175 you know like i literally took home like FaVbObb5tfY-00982-00213176-00213455 just a couple things no FaVbObb5tfY-00983-00213456-00213631 no big deal and then when we sold our FaVbObb5tfY-00984-00213632-00213831 house last year we got rid of so much FaVbObb5tfY-00985-00213832-00214015 stuff and then it was so freeing it's FaVbObb5tfY-00986-00214016-00214198 like wow i didn't realize this stuff was FaVbObb5tfY-00987-00214200-00214471 weighing me down but it did FaVbObb5tfY-00988-00214471-00214719 so last summer so this was 2020 my FaVbObb5tfY-00989-00214719-00214910 husband and i are like we really really FaVbObb5tfY-00990-00214911-00215006 should FaVbObb5tfY-00991-00215007-00215231 get our estate planning done because you FaVbObb5tfY-00992-00215232-00215391 know we're like getting to our mid 50s FaVbObb5tfY-00993-00215392-00215639 here it's kind of late in the game which FaVbObb5tfY-00994-00215640-00215823 unfortunately i found out that we were FaVbObb5tfY-00995-00215823-00216023 not late to the party FaVbObb5tfY-00996-00216023-00216263 most people don't do it soon enough FaVbObb5tfY-00997-00216264-00216446 and we had lots of conversations with FaVbObb5tfY-00998-00216448-00216663 the lawyer in the estate planning FaVbObb5tfY-00999-00216664-00216879 about what if you know the what-if FaVbObb5tfY-01000-00216880-00217046 conversations FaVbObb5tfY-01001-00217048-00217367 and i have been a huge advocate FaVbObb5tfY-01002-00217367-00217455 for FaVbObb5tfY-01003-00217456-00217591 gen xers FaVbObb5tfY-01004-00217592-00217758 like ourselves i'm assuming you're a gen FaVbObb5tfY-01005-00217759-00217919 xer FaVbObb5tfY-01006-00217919-00218206 to FaVbObb5tfY-01007-00218207-00218455 rethink assisted living FaVbObb5tfY-01008-00218456-00218687 so you get to 80 85 years old maybe FaVbObb5tfY-01009-00218688-00219151 you've been retired for 10 or 15 years FaVbObb5tfY-01010-00219152-00219406 why would you not want to move into a FaVbObb5tfY-01011-00219407-00219575 place where somebody is taking care of FaVbObb5tfY-01012-00219576-00219742 the yard and the building and they're FaVbObb5tfY-01013-00219744-00219942 cooking you nice food and there's FaVbObb5tfY-01014-00219944-00220103 activities that somebody plans and FaVbObb5tfY-01015-00220104-00220239 there's people FaVbObb5tfY-01016-00220240-00220423 right there that you can socialize with FaVbObb5tfY-01017-00220423-00220639 or not and there's somebody to make sure FaVbObb5tfY-01018-00220640-00220839 that if you fall you're not laying there FaVbObb5tfY-01019-00220840-00221031 for two or three days like my husband's FaVbObb5tfY-01020-00221032-00221215 grandmother did FaVbObb5tfY-01021-00221216-00221398 you know it's like why would you not FaVbObb5tfY-01022-00221400-00221542 want to do that so i have had that FaVbObb5tfY-01023-00221544-00221815 conversation with so many people FaVbObb5tfY-01024-00221816-00222142 and and this is a new scenario to my FaVbObb5tfY-01025-00222144-00222375 listeners is that we are house hunting FaVbObb5tfY-01026-00222376-00222567 and we have found a place FaVbObb5tfY-01027-00222567-00222863 that has a very rich social life not FaVbObb5tfY-01028-00222864-00223094 assisted living it's a community it's FaVbObb5tfY-01029-00223096-00223279 like a retirement community but it's not FaVbObb5tfY-01030-00223280-00223615 age restricted so it's a development FaVbObb5tfY-01031-00223616-00223742 on a lake FaVbObb5tfY-01032-00223744-00224015 that has boating and FaVbObb5tfY-01033-00224016-00224215 you know they do golf cart parades that FaVbObb5tfY-01034-00224216-00224415 thanks not thanksgiving fourth of july FaVbObb5tfY-01035-00224416-00224534 and christmas FaVbObb5tfY-01036-00224535-00224798 you know there's golfing dancing craft FaVbObb5tfY-01037-00224800-00225071 club pinocchio whatever i mean there's FaVbObb5tfY-01038-00225071-00225231 so many activities i think we might be FaVbObb5tfY-01039-00225232-00225398 exhausted if we FaVbObb5tfY-01040-00225400-00225558 and we'd have to work hard not to have a FaVbObb5tfY-01041-00225559-00225751 good social life and one of the reasons FaVbObb5tfY-01042-00225752-00225982 we picked this place is specifically FaVbObb5tfY-01043-00225983-00226087 because FaVbObb5tfY-01044-00226088-00226342 you have a community of people to do FaVbObb5tfY-01045-00226344-00226623 things with you get to know them and if FaVbObb5tfY-01046-00226623-00226767 something happens to you you've kind of FaVbObb5tfY-01047-00226767-00227046 got a built-in community support FaVbObb5tfY-01048-00227048-00227294 but as we're house hunting he tells the FaVbObb5tfY-01049-00227296-00227487 broker that we're working with FaVbObb5tfY-01050-00227488-00227742 this will be our last house unless or FaVbObb5tfY-01051-00227744-00227910 until we have to move into assisted FaVbObb5tfY-01052-00227911-00228119 living and i swear the day he told the FaVbObb5tfY-01053-00228119-00228423 broker that i was like yay i've FaVbObb5tfY-01054-00228423-00228703 succeeded with at least one person so we FaVbObb5tfY-01055-00228704-00228975 just really need to rethink it it's like FaVbObb5tfY-01056-00228976-00229158 assisted living is not some sort of FaVbObb5tfY-01057-00229159-00229479 punishment for getting to 85 or whatever FaVbObb5tfY-01058-00229480-00229694 it's not a place where you go and sit in FaVbObb5tfY-01059-00229696-00229903 a chair and wait to die because they got FaVbObb5tfY-01060-00229904-00230087 a lot of stuff going on there where my FaVbObb5tfY-01061-00230088-00230271 mom lived FaVbObb5tfY-01062-00230271-00230463 the assisted living was across the FaVbObb5tfY-01063-00230464-00230582 street from FaVbObb5tfY-01064-00230583-00230758 a middle school and they would have kids FaVbObb5tfY-01065-00230759-00231006 come in and the kids would do all kinds FaVbObb5tfY-01066-00231007-00231142 of different things FaVbObb5tfY-01067-00231144-00231367 crafts with the older people FaVbObb5tfY-01068-00231367-00231558 baking FaVbObb5tfY-01069-00231559-00231703 i don't they just did all kinds of FaVbObb5tfY-01070-00231704-00231942 things and the memory care residents FaVbObb5tfY-01071-00231944-00232110 that were FaVbObb5tfY-01072-00232111-00232239 able to FaVbObb5tfY-01073-00232240-00232455 participate in some way in those FaVbObb5tfY-01074-00232456-00232703 activities they would bring them over so FaVbObb5tfY-01075-00232704-00232982 it's like it was a very rich life so we FaVbObb5tfY-01076-00232983-00233198 just really need to rethink it and when FaVbObb5tfY-01077-00233200-00233367 we rethink FaVbObb5tfY-01078-00233367-00233623 what assisted living slash memory care FaVbObb5tfY-01079-00233623-00233855 can be or should be FaVbObb5tfY-01080-00233856-00234015 it's very easy to have that conversation FaVbObb5tfY-01081-00234016-00234142 because now you're excited you're like FaVbObb5tfY-01082-00234144-00234334 yeah please i don't want to deal with FaVbObb5tfY-01083-00234335-00234582 mowing the lawn at 85. FaVbObb5tfY-01084-00234583-00234903 uh i really like your um FaVbObb5tfY-01085-00234904-00235134 perspective on that because FaVbObb5tfY-01086-00235135-00235358 if you think about maybe sometimes FaVbObb5tfY-01087-00235359-00235551 people think that they are losing giving FaVbObb5tfY-01088-00235552-00235703 up control FaVbObb5tfY-01089-00235704-00235855 but really FaVbObb5tfY-01090-00235856-00236071 if you position it as your position in FaVbObb5tfY-01091-00236071-00236358 it you're gaining control you're making FaVbObb5tfY-01092-00236359-00236534 a choice now FaVbObb5tfY-01093-00236535-00236710 that somebody's gonna have to make for FaVbObb5tfY-01094-00236711-00236991 you later and you may not like the FaVbObb5tfY-01095-00236992-00237215 choice they FaVbObb5tfY-01096-00237216-00237351 you may FaVbObb5tfY-01097-00237352-00237510 you may not like the choice that they FaVbObb5tfY-01098-00237511-00237598 choose FaVbObb5tfY-01099-00237600-00237942 but here you still have control to FaVbObb5tfY-01100-00237944-00238079 like you said you could pick a place FaVbObb5tfY-01101-00238080-00238246 where you could go golfing and has FaVbObb5tfY-01102-00238248-00238519 activities in a lake or whatever they FaVbObb5tfY-01103-00238519-00238663 have right they're going to cook to FaVbObb5tfY-01104-00238664-00238758 dinner FaVbObb5tfY-01105-00238759-00238982 it's not so bad FaVbObb5tfY-01106-00238983-00239198 yeah and you know FaVbObb5tfY-01107-00239200-00239439 i i wish and i i'm assuming this will FaVbObb5tfY-01108-00239440-00239758 happen it probably won't happen FaVbObb5tfY-01109-00239759-00239951 in my lifetime although my paternal FaVbObb5tfY-01110-00239952-00240191 grandmother lived to be 103 so there's a FaVbObb5tfY-01111-00240192-00240398 few more years left for me FaVbObb5tfY-01112-00240400-00240542 i tell people i'm around for at least FaVbObb5tfY-01113-00240544-00240815 another 45 years FaVbObb5tfY-01114-00240816-00241046 i really think that they need to rethink FaVbObb5tfY-01115-00241048-00241294 assisted living and so that FaVbObb5tfY-01116-00241296-00241479 they have like little cottages like FaVbObb5tfY-01117-00241480-00241734 maybe little two-bedroom cottages FaVbObb5tfY-01118-00241735-00242087 that are on the grounds of the FaVbObb5tfY-01119-00242088-00242230 the buildings that have all the FaVbObb5tfY-01120-00242231-00242455 apartments in it because FaVbObb5tfY-01121-00242456-00242767 you know if you're fine you don't need FaVbObb5tfY-01122-00242767-00242982 walking aids or you don't need somebody FaVbObb5tfY-01123-00242983-00243103 to FaVbObb5tfY-01124-00243104-00243415 physically help you with certain things FaVbObb5tfY-01125-00243416-00243606 you need you want some independence but FaVbObb5tfY-01126-00243607-00243751 you also want somebody else take care of FaVbObb5tfY-01127-00243752-00243967 all the hard stuff that's a really good FaVbObb5tfY-01128-00243967-00244191 option i think my paternal grandmother FaVbObb5tfY-01129-00244192-00244351 would have FaVbObb5tfY-01130-00244352-00244687 been more interested in that option FaVbObb5tfY-01131-00244688-00244791 and FaVbObb5tfY-01132-00244792-00244903 this is FaVbObb5tfY-01133-00244904-00245082 one of the reasons that FaVbObb5tfY-01134-00245083-00245494 i advocate so strongly for rethinking FaVbObb5tfY-01135-00245496-00245815 what our end years should be like like FaVbObb5tfY-01136-00245816-00246030 why would you like you're 85 90 years FaVbObb5tfY-01137-00246031-00246119 old why the hell do you want to make FaVbObb5tfY-01138-00246119-00246246 brett girl why do you want to cook three FaVbObb5tfY-01139-00246248-00246391 meals a day why do you want to be FaVbObb5tfY-01140-00246392-00246575 responsible FaVbObb5tfY-01141-00246576-00246815 exactly i mean even if it's the two of FaVbObb5tfY-01142-00246816-00247015 you you know if you're lucky enough to FaVbObb5tfY-01143-00247016-00247206 have or one lucky if it's not you look FaVbObb5tfY-01144-00247207-00247487 at it your spouse for you know 60 70 FaVbObb5tfY-01145-00247488-00247591 years FaVbObb5tfY-01146-00247592-00247846 dear lord we've been married 32 so 70 is FaVbObb5tfY-01147-00247848-00248182 definitely possible and you know why FaVbObb5tfY-01148-00248183-00248351 like after a while it's like my husband FaVbObb5tfY-01149-00248352-00248542 makes the same breakfast and it's like FaVbObb5tfY-01150-00248544-00248767 when he starts getting sick of them FaVbObb5tfY-01151-00248767-00248967 and we have to like make a shift it's FaVbObb5tfY-01152-00248967-00249110 like oh thank god because i'm so sick of FaVbObb5tfY-01153-00249111-00249303 this i could scream FaVbObb5tfY-01154-00249304-00249510 and you know it's like why why would you FaVbObb5tfY-01155-00249511-00249734 not want to give that up i mean you've FaVbObb5tfY-01156-00249735-00249934 worked hard you you've you've done your FaVbObb5tfY-01157-00249935-00250223 career most of us have raised a family FaVbObb5tfY-01158-00250223-00250446 or helped you know other people's family FaVbObb5tfY-01159-00250448-00250639 whatever we've all we've all put in the FaVbObb5tfY-01160-00250640-00250798 hard work why the hell do we want to FaVbObb5tfY-01161-00250800-00251023 keep doing that in our 80s and 90s no FaVbObb5tfY-01162-00251023-00251191 thank you i'll let somebody else take FaVbObb5tfY-01163-00251192-00251351 care of all that stuff FaVbObb5tfY-01164-00251352-00251623 that's my theory but my paternal FaVbObb5tfY-01165-00251623-00251806 grandmother was mostly blind from FaVbObb5tfY-01166-00251807-00251942 glaucoma FaVbObb5tfY-01167-00251944-00252158 my dad's younger brother the middle FaVbObb5tfY-01168-00252159-00252382 brother and his wife lived pretty close FaVbObb5tfY-01169-00252383-00252703 by and my aunt basically gave up 25 FaVbObb5tfY-01170-00252704-00252982 years of her life to bringing nana food FaVbObb5tfY-01171-00252983-00253151 and taking her to the doctor taking her FaVbObb5tfY-01172-00253152-00253310 to the hair place and going grocery FaVbObb5tfY-01173-00253311-00253671 shopping with her blah blah blah and FaVbObb5tfY-01174-00253671-00253887 this may offend some people but when my FaVbObb5tfY-01175-00253888-00254063 grandmother ended up in a board and care FaVbObb5tfY-01176-00254064-00254463 home because she'd had some mild strokes FaVbObb5tfY-01177-00254464-00254542 and FaVbObb5tfY-01178-00254544-00254751 the end was obviously coming i mean at FaVbObb5tfY-01179-00254752-00255063 103. she kind of wondering if the end is FaVbObb5tfY-01180-00255064-00255191 ever coming FaVbObb5tfY-01181-00255192-00255487 i really assumed that when my FaVbObb5tfY-01182-00255488-00255703 grandmother wouldn't be gone 24 hours FaVbObb5tfY-01183-00255704-00255830 and my aunt and uncle would move to FaVbObb5tfY-01184-00255831-00255991 idaho to be with their two daughters and FaVbObb5tfY-01185-00255992-00256167 their four granddaughters FaVbObb5tfY-01186-00256167-00256398 and when my aunt told me that my uncle FaVbObb5tfY-01187-00256400-00256575 was not healthy enough my uncle also has FaVbObb5tfY-01188-00256576-00256806 diabetes had a kidney transplant like my FaVbObb5tfY-01189-00256807-00256919 dad FaVbObb5tfY-01190-00256919-00257023 and has FaVbObb5tfY-01191-00257023-00257287 residual issues because of this FaVbObb5tfY-01192-00257288-00257471 that he's not healthy enough FaVbObb5tfY-01193-00257471-00257679 for them to move to their daughters and FaVbObb5tfY-01194-00257680-00257919 granddaughters i was like oh this makes FaVbObb5tfY-01195-00257919-00258094 me so angry FaVbObb5tfY-01196-00258096-00258406 because my aunt devoted so much time to FaVbObb5tfY-01197-00258407-00258646 my grandmother and now she doesn't FaVbObb5tfY-01198-00258648-00258919 she doesn't get to reap the benefits of FaVbObb5tfY-01199-00258919-00259087 okay now i don't have to worry about FaVbObb5tfY-01200-00259088-00259279 anybody but the two of us let's move by FaVbObb5tfY-01201-00259280-00259487 the by the girls and the grand you know FaVbObb5tfY-01202-00259488-00259694 it's like all six grandkids and the one FaVbObb5tfY-01203-00259696-00259982 son-in-law it's like all six daughters FaVbObb5tfY-01204-00259983-00260046 or FaVbObb5tfY-01205-00260048-00260263 females and the one guy FaVbObb5tfY-01206-00260264-00260342 so FaVbObb5tfY-01207-00260344-00260534 it's just you know it's like FaVbObb5tfY-01208-00260535-00260727 people say i don't want to be a burden FaVbObb5tfY-01209-00260728-00260903 but i want to live in my home forever FaVbObb5tfY-01210-00260904-00261151 please rethink that and for those of you FaVbObb5tfY-01211-00261152-00261398 that are doing the caregiving FaVbObb5tfY-01212-00261400-00261558 or like me FaVbObb5tfY-01213-00261559-00261815 have just finished with the caregiving FaVbObb5tfY-01214-00261816-00262015 ask yourself if you want to do that to FaVbObb5tfY-01215-00262016-00262199 your loved one do you want your kids to FaVbObb5tfY-01216-00262200-00262319 have to go through what you've gone FaVbObb5tfY-01217-00262320-00262558 through well no okay FaVbObb5tfY-01218-00262559-00262767 make plans FaVbObb5tfY-01219-00262768-00263015 that's my speech FaVbObb5tfY-01220-00263016-00263223 thank you so do you have like another FaVbObb5tfY-01221-00263224-00263519 really good story that well because now FaVbObb5tfY-01222-00263520-00263695 i'm like okay you've told some stories FaVbObb5tfY-01223-00263696-00263855 i'm like okay i gotta finish the book FaVbObb5tfY-01224-00263856-00264151 now on top of everything else i'm doing FaVbObb5tfY-01225-00264152-00264351 so what other little juicy tidbit can FaVbObb5tfY-01226-00264352-00264575 you tell us so that other people are FaVbObb5tfY-01227-00264576-00264806 gonna wanna get your book FaVbObb5tfY-01228-00264807-00265055 all right let me if i want to go down a FaVbObb5tfY-01229-00265056-00265175 path FaVbObb5tfY-01230-00265176-00265543 i just want to position people to FaVbObb5tfY-01231-00265544-00265758 to know that my mom's FaVbObb5tfY-01232-00265759-00266119 alzheimer's collided with FaVbObb5tfY-01233-00266120-00266495 2020 with covet 19 what does that mean FaVbObb5tfY-01234-00266496-00266663 well that means FaVbObb5tfY-01235-00266664-00266782 that FaVbObb5tfY-01236-00266783-00267310 she fell in january of 2020. FaVbObb5tfY-01237-00267311-00267534 we knew we did not know the world was FaVbObb5tfY-01238-00267535-00267855 going to go into change FaVbObb5tfY-01239-00267856-00268055 so FaVbObb5tfY-01240-00268056-00268247 prior to FaVbObb5tfY-01241-00268248-00268382 march FaVbObb5tfY-01242-00268383-00268575 we were there every day sometimes i'd FaVbObb5tfY-01243-00268576-00268895 run into my dad every day FaVbObb5tfY-01244-00268896-00269095 like i'd run into my dad i'd be leaving FaVbObb5tfY-01245-00269096-00269279 he'd be coming he'd be sitting there FaVbObb5tfY-01246-00269280-00269455 eating we'd be there that's how close we FaVbObb5tfY-01247-00269456-00269543 were FaVbObb5tfY-01248-00269544-00269615 to FaVbObb5tfY-01249-00269616-00269823 they'd be like oh you your dad was just FaVbObb5tfY-01250-00269824-00270071 here right so FaVbObb5tfY-01251-00270072-00270375 then you started to hear about this FaVbObb5tfY-01252-00270376-00270543 virus FaVbObb5tfY-01253-00270544-00270655 and FaVbObb5tfY-01254-00270656-00270830 we know now FaVbObb5tfY-01255-00270831-00271087 what that means then then we we didn't FaVbObb5tfY-01256-00271088-00271343 really know what was coming FaVbObb5tfY-01257-00271344-00271479 so FaVbObb5tfY-01258-00271480-00271655 march hits FaVbObb5tfY-01259-00271656-00271943 and you just it's is it it's getting FaVbObb5tfY-01260-00271944-00272255 closer it's getting closer you FaVbObb5tfY-01261-00272256-00272471 my neighbor had it my neighbors in the FaVbObb5tfY-01262-00272472-00272799 hospital early on in 2020 FaVbObb5tfY-01263-00272800-00273039 in my area i knew FaVbObb5tfY-01264-00273040-00273263 people that were whether wherever you FaVbObb5tfY-01265-00273264-00273543 stand on it people in my area my FaVbObb5tfY-01266-00273544-00273758 neighbor was in the hospital on a FaVbObb5tfY-01267-00273759-00273903 ventilator FaVbObb5tfY-01268-00273904-00274327 so it became very real very quick FaVbObb5tfY-01269-00274328-00274519 and FaVbObb5tfY-01270-00274520-00274671 all of a sudden FaVbObb5tfY-01271-00274672-00274934 there's a sign on the door that says FaVbObb5tfY-01272-00274935-00275223 no one under 18 can come in FaVbObb5tfY-01273-00275224-00275447 on a day my dad was picking my son up at FaVbObb5tfY-01274-00275448-00275615 boxing and was gonna FaVbObb5tfY-01275-00275616-00275791 meet us meet me there actually that FaVbObb5tfY-01276-00275792-00275887 night FaVbObb5tfY-01277-00275888-00276110 then the next day FaVbObb5tfY-01278-00276111-00276375 the site we get a call that says no one FaVbObb5tfY-01279-00276376-00276527 can come anymore FaVbObb5tfY-01280-00276528-00276734 and that was in march FaVbObb5tfY-01281-00276735-00276991 so the journey FaVbObb5tfY-01282-00276992-00277206 that i want to tell you about FaVbObb5tfY-01283-00277207-00277519 was what happens then here i made these FaVbObb5tfY-01284-00277520-00277767 choices and this this guy screw up our FaVbObb5tfY-01285-00277768-00278143 whole conversation i made these choices FaVbObb5tfY-01286-00278144-00278399 that led to my mom FaVbObb5tfY-01287-00278400-00278623 being in this care home FaVbObb5tfY-01288-00278624-00278806 and now FaVbObb5tfY-01289-00278807-00279023 this pandemic hits FaVbObb5tfY-01290-00279024-00279191 and it's my fault FaVbObb5tfY-01291-00279192-00279495 right i i can't even get in and see her FaVbObb5tfY-01292-00279496-00279847 now is she safe there FaVbObb5tfY-01293-00279848-00280015 conceivably maybe she's safer because FaVbObb5tfY-01294-00280016-00280158 she's not falling down the steps maybe FaVbObb5tfY-01295-00280159-00280334 because it's they're making sure she FaVbObb5tfY-01296-00280335-00280503 eats three times a day FaVbObb5tfY-01297-00280504-00280710 and takes her vitamins takes her boost FaVbObb5tfY-01298-00280711-00281055 that kind of thing but this this guilt FaVbObb5tfY-01299-00281056-00281206 that FaVbObb5tfY-01300-00281207-00281423 not only i had but my family had my FaVbObb5tfY-01301-00281424-00281623 sister that we all put her and we can't FaVbObb5tfY-01302-00281624-00281719 even see FaVbObb5tfY-01303-00281720-00281958 and it took it took FaVbObb5tfY-01304-00281959-00282230 a lot of time before FaVbObb5tfY-01305-00282231-00282439 we understood face time my mom's not FaVbObb5tfY-01306-00282440-00282615 able to you know they'd have to put it FaVbObb5tfY-01307-00282616-00282847 to her phone and even at that FaVbObb5tfY-01308-00282848-00282951 and then FaVbObb5tfY-01309-00282952-00283327 it just went on and on and became FaVbObb5tfY-01310-00283328-00283591 crueler and crueler and crueler and FaVbObb5tfY-01311-00283592-00283710 those FaVbObb5tfY-01312-00283711-00283919 taking uh FaVbObb5tfY-01313-00283920-00284263 maybe my daughter was 10 at the time FaVbObb5tfY-01314-00284264-00284687 in 11 right taking a a daughter FaVbObb5tfY-01315-00284688-00284903 to a window visit FaVbObb5tfY-01316-00284904-00285110 right and what that means is FaVbObb5tfY-01317-00285111-00285334 you're looking in FaVbObb5tfY-01318-00285335-00285695 at a woman who doesn't know you FaVbObb5tfY-01319-00285696-00285854 through a screen FaVbObb5tfY-01320-00285855-00286039 and maybe i shouldn't have FaVbObb5tfY-01321-00286040-00286319 i talked about the the guilt that just FaVbObb5tfY-01322-00286320-00286623 maybe i shouldn't have put my FaVbObb5tfY-01323-00286624-00286799 young daughter in a position i can't FaVbObb5tfY-01324-00286800-00286975 handle i can't handle this FaVbObb5tfY-01325-00286976-00287206 a year later telling you about it right FaVbObb5tfY-01326-00287207-00287558 now and what kind of parent was i to put FaVbObb5tfY-01327-00287559-00287830 my daughter in in that position FaVbObb5tfY-01328-00287831-00287943 so FaVbObb5tfY-01329-00287944-00288263 these are the i tell you this because FaVbObb5tfY-01330-00288264-00288558 the story is just unconditional love and FaVbObb5tfY-01331-00288559-00288751 it's what we were all going through and FaVbObb5tfY-01332-00288752-00289015 that's kind of i didn't i didn't expect FaVbObb5tfY-01333-00289016-00289223 when i wrote a story about FaVbObb5tfY-01334-00289224-00289310 um FaVbObb5tfY-01335-00289311-00289615 my mom's alzheimer's i didn't think FaVbObb5tfY-01336-00289616-00289823 that that's how it was going to end so i FaVbObb5tfY-01337-00289824-00289967 just started writing and i couldn't FaVbObb5tfY-01338-00289968-00290263 finish the story because FaVbObb5tfY-01339-00290264-00290543 the story didn't end right it was FaVbObb5tfY-01340-00290544-00290758 there FaVbObb5tfY-01341-00290759-00290982 there was every we we talked about we're FaVbObb5tfY-01342-00290983-00291230 still in some stages of FaVbObb5tfY-01343-00291231-00291367 this FaVbObb5tfY-01344-00291368-00291527 whatever's going on in the world we're FaVbObb5tfY-01345-00291528-00291727 still being affected by it FaVbObb5tfY-01346-00291728-00291871 so FaVbObb5tfY-01347-00291872-00292134 this that's on the um FaVbObb5tfY-01348-00292135-00292415 on the forefront of so many minds FaVbObb5tfY-01349-00292416-00292551 this is FaVbObb5tfY-01350-00292552-00292934 what we all had to go through as a as a FaVbObb5tfY-01351-00292935-00293158 country as people as a world you know FaVbObb5tfY-01352-00293159-00293351 and then combine it with something that FaVbObb5tfY-01353-00293352-00293534 we can't handle that's too much for FaVbObb5tfY-01354-00293535-00293782 anybody anybody you out there here's FaVbObb5tfY-01355-00293783-00294095 what i would say to your listeners FaVbObb5tfY-01356-00294096-00294351 you are not alone you have people like FaVbObb5tfY-01357-00294352-00294534 jennifer you have people like me you FaVbObb5tfY-01358-00294535-00294782 this community is what i've learned is FaVbObb5tfY-01359-00294783-00295071 it's so much bigger and more supportive FaVbObb5tfY-01360-00295072-00295327 than i ever knew so don't think FaVbObb5tfY-01361-00295328-00295543 that guilt that you're feeling me and FaVbObb5tfY-01362-00295544-00295791 jennifer felt it too your friend that FaVbObb5tfY-01363-00295792-00295991 had a grandmother they feel it too so FaVbObb5tfY-01364-00295992-00296087 just FaVbObb5tfY-01365-00296088-00296239 talk about it FaVbObb5tfY-01366-00296240-00296319 and FaVbObb5tfY-01367-00296320-00296527 know that there's other people out there FaVbObb5tfY-01368-00296528-00296695 that FaVbObb5tfY-01369-00296696-00296943 are there for you and FaVbObb5tfY-01370-00296944-00297087 that's how i will FaVbObb5tfY-01371-00297088-00297382 wrap up that long-winded story FaVbObb5tfY-01372-00297383-00297591 no that's a good one FaVbObb5tfY-01373-00297592-00297695 and FaVbObb5tfY-01374-00297696-00298054 if there's any silver lining to this FaVbObb5tfY-01375-00298055-00298215 insanity that we've lived through for FaVbObb5tfY-01376-00298216-00298575 like a year and a half is FaVbObb5tfY-01377-00298576-00298815 we've we've we've shown a very bright FaVbObb5tfY-01378-00298816-00299079 spotlight on things that are like oh FaVbObb5tfY-01379-00299080-00299310 yeah locking everybody up FaVbObb5tfY-01380-00299311-00299551 and not letting people visit that wasn't FaVbObb5tfY-01381-00299552-00299687 good but FaVbObb5tfY-01382-00299688-00299887 this disease continually spreading that FaVbObb5tfY-01383-00299888-00300006 wasn't good FaVbObb5tfY-01384-00300007-00300375 so i i think we need to advocate for FaVbObb5tfY-01385-00300376-00300679 conversations on okay well we managed to FaVbObb5tfY-01386-00300680-00300910 get through that for better or worse FaVbObb5tfY-01387-00300911-00301119 however we've managed FaVbObb5tfY-01388-00301120-00301343 how can we do better if when this FaVbObb5tfY-01389-00301344-00301495 happens again FaVbObb5tfY-01390-00301496-00301791 my mom's care home had a huge flu FaVbObb5tfY-01391-00301792-00302023 outbreak normal flu i guess i might have FaVbObb5tfY-01392-00302024-00302175 to say now FaVbObb5tfY-01393-00302176-00302482 in 2018 FaVbObb5tfY-01394-00302483-00302830 so they basically had you know red FaVbObb5tfY-01395-00302831-00303015 printed signs on the door that warned FaVbObb5tfY-01396-00303016-00303143 you of this FaVbObb5tfY-01397-00303144-00303254 problem FaVbObb5tfY-01398-00303255-00303454 suggested you not come in but didn't FaVbObb5tfY-01399-00303455-00303647 prevent you from not coming in her home FaVbObb5tfY-01400-00303648-00303919 was the same as your the week ago 24 7 FaVbObb5tfY-01401-00303920-00304110 any hour of the day didn't have to call FaVbObb5tfY-01402-00304111-00304182 or FaVbObb5tfY-01403-00304183-00304406 you know so that was that was awesome FaVbObb5tfY-01404-00304407-00304575 thankfully my gut instinct was good on FaVbObb5tfY-01405-00304576-00304743 that one too FaVbObb5tfY-01406-00304744-00304943 and FaVbObb5tfY-01407-00304944-00305199 my mom went back from the hospital march FaVbObb5tfY-01408-00305200-00305415 12th i think i told you she broke her FaVbObb5tfY-01409-00305416-00305654 leg so i was dealing with like do i want FaVbObb5tfY-01410-00305655-00305910 my mom in a hospital like this i thought FaVbObb5tfY-01411-00305911-00306079 this was a china thing and now it FaVbObb5tfY-01412-00306080-00306391 appears to like not just be in china and FaVbObb5tfY-01413-00306392-00306623 i want her here do i want to be here so FaVbObb5tfY-01414-00306624-00306854 i went through all those questions FaVbObb5tfY-01415-00306855-00307079 she went back to the care home march FaVbObb5tfY-01416-00307080-00307495 12th i saw march 12th i saw march 14th FaVbObb5tfY-01417-00307496-00307782 march 14th the protocol to get in was FaVbObb5tfY-01418-00307783-00308023 different than march 12th i saw on march FaVbObb5tfY-01419-00308024-00308295 16th and i had to go FaVbObb5tfY-01420-00308296-00308567 through the front of the assisted living FaVbObb5tfY-01421-00308568-00308791 i had to sign in i had to fill out FaVbObb5tfY-01422-00308792-00308982 paperwork i had to have my temperature FaVbObb5tfY-01423-00308983-00309223 checked i mean every other day the FaVbObb5tfY-01424-00309224-00309406 protocols got FaVbObb5tfY-01425-00309407-00309567 more strict FaVbObb5tfY-01426-00309568-00309782 and a little more irritating FaVbObb5tfY-01427-00309783-00309982 and FaVbObb5tfY-01428-00309983-00310127 you know i'm trying to figure out like FaVbObb5tfY-01429-00310128-00310375 what the hell is going on here FaVbObb5tfY-01430-00310376-00310454 and FaVbObb5tfY-01431-00310455-00310630 march 17th FaVbObb5tfY-01432-00310631-00310854 boom no more visits FaVbObb5tfY-01433-00310855-00311087 and my mom died march 31st so i did not FaVbObb5tfY-01434-00311088-00311247 see her for the last two weeks of her FaVbObb5tfY-01435-00311248-00311430 life but FaVbObb5tfY-01436-00311431-00311654 they called me on march 29th one of the FaVbObb5tfY-01437-00311655-00311815 caregivers i was really close to and FaVbObb5tfY-01438-00311816-00312039 they said mom's not doing really good we FaVbObb5tfY-01439-00312040-00312271 think she'd be do she'd it might help if FaVbObb5tfY-01440-00312272-00312423 you came in tsar FaVbObb5tfY-01441-00312424-00312606 which i realized this translation for FaVbObb5tfY-01442-00312607-00312775 only holy crap this woman's about to die FaVbObb5tfY-01443-00312776-00313015 we better let the family in FaVbObb5tfY-01444-00313016-00313247 and so i went sour the next morning FaVbObb5tfY-01445-00313248-00313599 and it was really obvious to me that i FaVbObb5tfY-01446-00313600-00313830 had thought my mom and i always went to FaVbObb5tfY-01447-00313831-00314110 the park or wherever to watch kids FaVbObb5tfY-01448-00314111-00314367 and i was actually FaVbObb5tfY-01449-00314368-00314534 more than okay with her being FaVbObb5tfY-01450-00314535-00314839 wheelchair-bound because she walked so FaVbObb5tfY-01451-00314840-00315054 slowly and she always had to walk like FaVbObb5tfY-01452-00315055-00315310 15 feet behind me which always made me FaVbObb5tfY-01453-00315311-00315543 nervous because you know stuff happens FaVbObb5tfY-01454-00315544-00315775 we all trip and miss things and i was FaVbObb5tfY-01455-00315776-00316039 just always worried that she would fall FaVbObb5tfY-01456-00316040-00316239 or something would happen on my watch FaVbObb5tfY-01457-00316240-00316495 because she would not walk with with me FaVbObb5tfY-01458-00316496-00316703 if i slowed down she slowed down it was FaVbObb5tfY-01459-00316704-00317006 it was like a comedy of nonsense FaVbObb5tfY-01460-00317007-00317158 so i was fine with it i'm like oh my FaVbObb5tfY-01461-00317159-00317367 gosh i've learned from tip of snow how FaVbObb5tfY-01462-00317368-00317575 to transfer people in and out of the car FaVbObb5tfY-01463-00317576-00317830 and into in a wheel great i'll i'll FaVbObb5tfY-01464-00317831-00317991 practice with like my husband who's a FaVbObb5tfY-01465-00317992-00318158 foot taller than me FaVbObb5tfY-01466-00318159-00318343 this will be this is going to be okay FaVbObb5tfY-01467-00318344-00318495 i'll be able to get her from point a to FaVbObb5tfY-01468-00318496-00318687 point b in a reasonable amount of time FaVbObb5tfY-01469-00318688-00318910 this this will be great so i was like FaVbObb5tfY-01470-00318911-00319119 actually really positive about it and FaVbObb5tfY-01471-00319120-00319343 when i saw her on the 30th i was like FaVbObb5tfY-01472-00319344-00319543 yeah we're not gonna be doing that FaVbObb5tfY-01473-00319544-00319782 and i've had dogs all my life so i FaVbObb5tfY-01474-00319783-00319999 recognized the signs FaVbObb5tfY-01475-00320000-00320182 the next day i talked to the hospice FaVbObb5tfY-01476-00320183-00320327 nurse FaVbObb5tfY-01477-00320328-00320599 there she said you know yeah FaVbObb5tfY-01478-00320600-00320751 she kind of agreed with FaVbObb5tfY-01479-00320752-00320839 that FaVbObb5tfY-01480-00320840-00321095 with my assessment from the day before FaVbObb5tfY-01481-00321096-00321454 i did a podcast recording i was having FaVbObb5tfY-01482-00321455-00321654 lunch and the care home called and they FaVbObb5tfY-01483-00321655-00321847 said please come now FaVbObb5tfY-01484-00321848-00322071 and we didn't get there in time FaVbObb5tfY-01485-00322072-00322310 and i have to give them credit and this FaVbObb5tfY-01486-00322311-00322415 is FaVbObb5tfY-01487-00322416-00322543 i'm not even FaVbObb5tfY-01488-00322544-00322703 i'm not going to tell you guys which FaVbObb5tfY-01489-00322704-00322903 company they're with because i'm the FaVbObb5tfY-01490-00322904-00323030 assist the FaVbObb5tfY-01491-00323031-00323239 executive director has changed companies FaVbObb5tfY-01492-00323240-00323495 so he's not going to get in trouble but FaVbObb5tfY-01493-00323496-00323695 my husband and i FaVbObb5tfY-01494-00323696-00323903 and my daughter and almost son-in-law FaVbObb5tfY-01495-00323904-00324095 showed up together FaVbObb5tfY-01496-00324096-00324319 my sister and her family so another four FaVbObb5tfY-01497-00324320-00324495 people were FaVbObb5tfY-01498-00324496-00324791 less than 10 minutes behind me FaVbObb5tfY-01499-00324792-00325047 her youngest brother and her sister FaVbObb5tfY-01500-00325048-00325215 my mom's brother and sister she's got FaVbObb5tfY-01501-00325216-00325439 one that's three hours away FaVbObb5tfY-01502-00325440-00325647 they were about 10 minutes behind my FaVbObb5tfY-01503-00325648-00325815 sister so FaVbObb5tfY-01504-00325816-00326054 my mom has passed away and there are 10 FaVbObb5tfY-01505-00326055-00326358 people in the hallway of the care home FaVbObb5tfY-01506-00326359-00326510 the very height of the beginning of the FaVbObb5tfY-01507-00326511-00326695 pandemic and that poor executive FaVbObb5tfY-01508-00326696-00326854 director i'm sure we gave him some FaVbObb5tfY-01509-00326855-00327006 serious gray hair FaVbObb5tfY-01510-00327007-00327271 because he was so kind he did not tell FaVbObb5tfY-01511-00327272-00327454 us to please get the hell out and go FaVbObb5tfY-01512-00327455-00327630 into the parking lot FaVbObb5tfY-01513-00327631-00327863 he did not say it but he did communicate FaVbObb5tfY-01514-00327864-00327967 it FaVbObb5tfY-01515-00327968-00328182 and i i laughed because i mean just the FaVbObb5tfY-01516-00328183-00328406 whole thing was just nobody knew how to FaVbObb5tfY-01517-00328407-00328654 handle it so now we know FaVbObb5tfY-01518-00328655-00328887 these things can happen hopefully not FaVbObb5tfY-01519-00328888-00329119 like this again but there is going to be FaVbObb5tfY-01520-00329120-00329327 flu outbreaks the flu outbreak they had FaVbObb5tfY-01521-00329328-00329599 in 2018 was so bad on the assisted FaVbObb5tfY-01522-00329600-00329782 living site they had to close the dining FaVbObb5tfY-01523-00329783-00329975 room and serve all the residents their FaVbObb5tfY-01524-00329976-00330143 meals in their rooms which is what they FaVbObb5tfY-01525-00330144-00330367 did during coven so they had kind of a FaVbObb5tfY-01526-00330368-00330751 trial run for better or worse and FaVbObb5tfY-01527-00330752-00330958 you know now it's like okay what do we FaVbObb5tfY-01528-00330959-00331175 do if there's some sort of really big FaVbObb5tfY-01529-00331176-00331423 problem like god forbid we do this again FaVbObb5tfY-01530-00331424-00331534 please no FaVbObb5tfY-01531-00331535-00331695 you know now we've got some information FaVbObb5tfY-01532-00331696-00331847 so instead of just saying oh thank god FaVbObb5tfY-01533-00331848-00332047 that's behind us that's not going to FaVbObb5tfY-01534-00332048-00332191 happen again FaVbObb5tfY-01535-00332192-00332423 that that's that's where i'd like to go FaVbObb5tfY-01536-00332424-00332671 but let's have conversations about what FaVbObb5tfY-01537-00332672-00332830 if because i know people that pulled FaVbObb5tfY-01538-00332831-00333095 loved ones out of care homes FaVbObb5tfY-01539-00333096-00333295 and i don't think they were prepared FaVbObb5tfY-01540-00333296-00333447 there were people that are like oh my FaVbObb5tfY-01541-00333448-00333599 god i can't deal with this anymore and FaVbObb5tfY-01542-00333600-00333871 put their family in i mean it's just FaVbObb5tfY-01543-00333872-00334063 covered made chaos out of this whole FaVbObb5tfY-01544-00334064-00334375 thing it's already chaotic enough so FaVbObb5tfY-01545-00334376-00334534 my theory is FaVbObb5tfY-01546-00334535-00334854 plan ahead have conversations FaVbObb5tfY-01547-00334855-00334951 you know FaVbObb5tfY-01548-00334952-00335167 if you're if if the time has come to FaVbObb5tfY-01549-00335168-00335375 start looking for a care home ask these FaVbObb5tfY-01550-00335376-00335543 questions what do you do if there's a FaVbObb5tfY-01551-00335544-00335799 big flu outbreak you know how did you FaVbObb5tfY-01552-00335800-00335991 always handle covid you know did you FaVbObb5tfY-01553-00335992-00336087 like FaVbObb5tfY-01554-00336088-00336278 throw up the tanks around the place and FaVbObb5tfY-01555-00336279-00336447 not let any family members near the FaVbObb5tfY-01556-00336448-00336630 building or did you FaVbObb5tfY-01557-00336631-00336839 do the window visits or you know like FaVbObb5tfY-01558-00336840-00337054 ask these questions because FaVbObb5tfY-01559-00337055-00337254 you know information is power and that's FaVbObb5tfY-01560-00337255-00337391 why i have these conversations with FaVbObb5tfY-01561-00337392-00337519 people like you FaVbObb5tfY-01562-00337520-00337695 well i think and you're doing a good job FaVbObb5tfY-01563-00337696-00337823 with it so FaVbObb5tfY-01564-00337824-00337982 i appreciate it FaVbObb5tfY-01565-00337983-00338110 so FaVbObb5tfY-01566-00338111-00338406 the link for your book my name is sharon FaVbObb5tfY-01567-00338407-00338599 is going to be in the show notes is in FaVbObb5tfY-01568-00338600-00338743 the show notes FaVbObb5tfY-01569-00338744-00338887 and is there FaVbObb5tfY-01570-00338888-00339054 any place on the internet people can FaVbObb5tfY-01571-00339055-00339271 find you if they want to i don't know FaVbObb5tfY-01572-00339272-00339430 interact with you online like we do FaVbObb5tfY-01573-00339431-00339630 these days FaVbObb5tfY-01574-00339631-00339782 sure and FaVbObb5tfY-01575-00339783-00340015 my whole world revolves around sharing FaVbObb5tfY-01576-00340016-00340367 inspiration positivity and smiles 24 7. FaVbObb5tfY-01577-00340368-00340447 so FaVbObb5tfY-01578-00340448-00340687 if you look up motivation champs FaVbObb5tfY-01579-00340688-00340951 anywhere in some capacity FaVbObb5tfY-01580-00340952-00341071 we will be FaVbObb5tfY-01581-00341072-00341295 sharing inspiration it could be a FaVbObb5tfY-01582-00341296-00341463 jennifer's story it could be somebody FaVbObb5tfY-01583-00341464-00341671 else's story it could be a beautiful FaVbObb5tfY-01584-00341672-00341927 sunset that somebody sees that day but FaVbObb5tfY-01585-00341928-00342095 every day FaVbObb5tfY-01586-00342096-00342358 we share inspiration so FaVbObb5tfY-01587-00342359-00342575 and that's motivation champs and if you FaVbObb5tfY-01588-00342576-00342799 look it up anywhere connect FaVbObb5tfY-01589-00342800-00343039 send me a send me a message love to chat FaVbObb5tfY-01590-00343040-00343151 and uh FaVbObb5tfY-01591-00343152-00343375 i'll follow you FaVbObb5tfY-01592-00343376-00343591 terrific well i appreciate it and i FaVbObb5tfY-01593-00343592-00343775 probably have a zillion sunset photos FaVbObb5tfY-01594-00343776-00343975 for you or if you want fuzzy dog FaVbObb5tfY-01595-00343976-00344167 pictures i got a lot of those too FaVbObb5tfY-01596-00344168-00344351 whatever makes people smile right FaVbObb5tfY-01597-00344352-00344575 inspiration is different for everybody FaVbObb5tfY-01598-00344576-00344751 for some people it's a walk in the woods FaVbObb5tfY-01599-00344752-00344951 for some people it's going to the gym FaVbObb5tfY-01600-00344952-00345134 for some people it's reading a book so FaVbObb5tfY-01601-00345135-00345406 we try to share it in every capacity FaVbObb5tfY-01602-00345407-00345606 that we can FaVbObb5tfY-01603-00345607-00345823 wonderful well that will also be linked FaVbObb5tfY-01604-00345824-00346006 in the show notes so people can easily FaVbObb5tfY-01605-00346007-00346310 find you i gratefully appreciate these FaVbObb5tfY-01606-00346311-00346519 two hours of chatting only one of which FaVbObb5tfY-01607-00346520-00346719 we recorded because FaVbObb5tfY-01608-00346720-00346903 my guests and i have a tendency to be FaVbObb5tfY-01609-00346904-00347071 chatty people because you wouldn't be a FaVbObb5tfY-01610-00347072-00347303 podcaster without that FaVbObb5tfY-01611-00347304-00347767 so thank you so much thank you FaVbObb5tfY-01612-00347768-00347999 fading memories is also available FaVbObb5tfY-01613-00348000-00348667 wherever you get your favorite podcasts FaVbObb5tfY-01614-00348668-00348910 [Music] FaVbObb5tfY-01615-00348911-00349120 you FcTYYAzsrIM-00000-00000531-00000824 good afternoon my name is Amy Makris I'm FcTYYAzsrIM-00001-00000825-00000998 the coordinator of Technology and FcTYYAzsrIM-00002-00000999-00001253 culture forum at MIT and the Episcopal FcTYYAzsrIM-00003-00001254-00001493 chaplain at MIT and it's my good fortune FcTYYAzsrIM-00004-00001494-00001850 to welcome all of you to this forum this FcTYYAzsrIM-00005-00001851-00002054 afternoon here in the Bartos theater at FcTYYAzsrIM-00006-00002055-00002345 MIT it's been our good fortune at FcTYYAzsrIM-00007-00002346-00002516 technology and culture forum to FcTYYAzsrIM-00008-00002517-00002795 co-sponsor this two-part series on the FcTYYAzsrIM-00009-00002796-00003035 campaign and the media with the FcTYYAzsrIM-00010-00003036-00003317 communications forum at MIT and with the FcTYYAzsrIM-00011-00003318-00003551 Center for the Future Civic Media and FcTYYAzsrIM-00012-00003552-00003763 I'm very thankful for the great work FcTYYAzsrIM-00013-00003764-00003968 that the staff at both both places have FcTYYAzsrIM-00014-00003969-00004231 put into putting the series together as FcTYYAzsrIM-00015-00004232-00004561 many of you know this is the second of a FcTYYAzsrIM-00016-00004562-00004864 two-part series and we first gathered FcTYYAzsrIM-00017-00004865-00005068 here to discuss the campaign in the FcTYYAzsrIM-00018-00005069-00005309 media at the end of September with FcTYYAzsrIM-00019-00005310-00005636 another wonderful panel and at that time FcTYYAzsrIM-00020-00005637-00005845 we had a tremendous discussion about a FcTYYAzsrIM-00021-00005846-00006184 lot of aspects of this issue some of the FcTYYAzsrIM-00022-00006185-00006428 things that stood out for me in in that FcTYYAzsrIM-00023-00006429-00006670 discussion which will probably continue FcTYYAzsrIM-00024-00006672-00006988 as themes tonight are first of all what FcTYYAzsrIM-00025-00006989-00007226 media are breaking stories around the FcTYYAzsrIM-00026-00007227-00007573 campaign and how much of the news about FcTYYAzsrIM-00027-00007575-00007771 the elections that we see in the media FcTYYAzsrIM-00028-00007772-00008128 is actual reportage and how much is FcTYYAzsrIM-00029-00008129-00008369 simply talk or commentary on the facts FcTYYAzsrIM-00030-00008370-00008702 and does it matter does it matter FcTYYAzsrIM-00031-00008703-00008935 whether the media are breaking stories FcTYYAzsrIM-00032-00008936-00009113 and how that happens do people really FcTYYAzsrIM-00033-00009114-00009385 care about the facts when they go to the FcTYYAzsrIM-00034-00009386-00009652 polls or is their vote based on FcTYYAzsrIM-00035-00009653-00009962 something else we also talked at that FcTYYAzsrIM-00036-00009963-00010352 first forum about Obama's campaign and FcTYYAzsrIM-00037-00010353-00010621 it's very savvy tactics using new media FcTYYAzsrIM-00038-00010622-00010816 and whether that was going to make a FcTYYAzsrIM-00039-00010817-00011002 difference especially in terms of FcTYYAzsrIM-00040-00011003-00011167 getting out the vote among younger FcTYYAzsrIM-00041-00011168-00011399 voters and what the long term FcTYYAzsrIM-00042-00011400-00011689 implications of those techniques and FcTYYAzsrIM-00043-00011690-00012046 that strategy would be and finally we FcTYYAzsrIM-00044-00012047-00012292 talked about whether or not and the FcTYYAzsrIM-00045-00012293-00012523 extent to which new media are having a FcTYYAzsrIM-00046-00012524-00012812 significant impact on election politics FcTYYAzsrIM-00047-00012813-00013268 and on the election process so tonight FcTYYAzsrIM-00048-00013269-00013418 we're on the other side of the election FcTYYAzsrIM-00049-00013419-00013682 and I'm glad about that I don't know FcTYYAzsrIM-00050-00013683-00013958 about you it was quiet quite a FcTYYAzsrIM-00051-00013959-00014216 and I'm glad it's resolved now and we FcTYYAzsrIM-00052-00014216-00014416 are standing on the other side of it and FcTYYAzsrIM-00053-00014418-00014730 able to look back on the events of FcTYYAzsrIM-00054-00014731-00015032 election day and see from our FcTYYAzsrIM-00055-00015033-00015319 perspective now how the campaign and the FcTYYAzsrIM-00056-00015320-00015632 media came together so tonight we have a FcTYYAzsrIM-00057-00015633-00015788 tremendous panel to guide us in this FcTYYAzsrIM-00058-00015788-00016072 discussion and I'd like to tell you just FcTYYAzsrIM-00059-00016073-00016286 a little bit about each of the people up FcTYYAzsrIM-00060-00016287-00016630 front we have Ian Rowe who's the vice FcTYYAzsrIM-00061-00016631-00016835 president of strategic partnerships and FcTYYAzsrIM-00062-00016836-00017171 public affairs for MTV ian oversees FcTYYAzsrIM-00063-00017172-00017550 MTV's on-air online and off air FcTYYAzsrIM-00064-00017551-00017908 pro-social campaigns you notice think TV FcTYYAzsrIM-00065-00017909-00018308 and his work includes the 2008 choose or FcTYYAzsrIM-00066-00018309-00018641 lose campaign he's been referred to as FcTYYAzsrIM-00067-00018642-00019142 the conscience of M of MTV you can tell FcTYYAzsrIM-00068-00019143-00019261 us whether that's true or not FcTYYAzsrIM-00069-00019262-00019574 prior to MTV he worked with the USA FcTYYAzsrIM-00070-00019575-00019844 Freedom Corps at the White House the FcTYYAzsrIM-00071-00019845-00019994 president's initiative on volunteer FcTYYAzsrIM-00072-00019995-00020725 service so welcome Ian Rowe to MIT FcTYYAzsrIM-00073-00020726-00020972 sitting next to Ian we have mark and FcTYYAzsrIM-00074-00020973-00021175 bender an associate editor at the FcTYYAzsrIM-00075-00021176-00021419 Atlantic and a contributing editor to FcTYYAzsrIM-00076-00021420-00021697 both the hotline and national journal FcTYYAzsrIM-00077-00021698-00022022 mark was the editor of hotline on-call a FcTYYAzsrIM-00078-00022023-00022355 path breaking political news blog and he FcTYYAzsrIM-00079-00022356-00022550 was one of the founders of ABC's the FcTYYAzsrIM-00080-00022551-00022847 note his latest writings can be found on FcTYYAzsrIM-00081-00022848-00023111 the mark M bender blog which he may be FcTYYAzsrIM-00082-00023112-00023192 familiar with FcTYYAzsrIM-00083-00023193-00023894 so welcome mark ambit er to MIT and next FcTYYAzsrIM-00084-00023895-00024230 mark is Cyrus Crone the director of the FcTYYAzsrIM-00085-00024231-00024394 Republican National Committee's a FcTYYAzsrIM-00086-00024395-00024827 campaign so Cyrus was formerly the FcTYYAzsrIM-00087-00024828-00025030 publisher and co-founder of Slate FcTYYAzsrIM-00088-00025031-00025297 Magazine and prior to joining Microsoft FcTYYAzsrIM-00089-00025298-00025577 he was he produced programs for CNN FcTYYAzsrIM-00090-00025578-00025856 including Larry King Live and crossfire FcTYYAzsrIM-00091-00025857-00026527 so welcome to you as well welcome Cyrus FcTYYAzsrIM-00092-00026529-00026742 moderating the discussion tonight is FcTYYAzsrIM-00093-00026743-00026976 Henry Jenkins Henry Jenkins is the FcTYYAzsrIM-00094-00026977-00027135 co-director of the comparative Media FcTYYAzsrIM-00095-00027136-00027447 Studies program at MIT and the Peter de FcTYYAzsrIM-00096-00027448-00027683 florins professor of humanities at MIT FcTYYAzsrIM-00097-00027683-00027963 he's the author of convergence culture FcTYYAzsrIM-00098-00027964-00028275 were old and new media collide and many FcTYYAzsrIM-00099-00028276-00028485 other great books on media and popular FcTYYAzsrIM-00100-00028486-00028848 culture so tonight Henry will moderate FcTYYAzsrIM-00101-00028849-00029130 our discussion and we're gonna go I FcTYYAzsrIM-00102-00029131-00029457 think until 7 o'clock if the if folks FcTYYAzsrIM-00103-00029458-00029649 have lots of questions there'll be time FcTYYAzsrIM-00104-00029650-00029858 after after the discussion up front FcTYYAzsrIM-00105-00029860-00030036 there'll be lots of time for all of you FcTYYAzsrIM-00106-00030037-00030360 to ask questions and make comments so FcTYYAzsrIM-00107-00030361-00030512 when we get to that point there'll be FcTYYAzsrIM-00108-00030513-00030822 microphones and the aisles and professor FcTYYAzsrIM-00109-00030823-00031095 Jenkins will invite you forward to to FcTYYAzsrIM-00110-00031095-00031242 offer your thoughts and your questions FcTYYAzsrIM-00111-00031243-00031581 to this great panel so with that turn it FcTYYAzsrIM-00112-00031582-00032001 over to Henry Jenkins happy happy to see FcTYYAzsrIM-00113-00032002-00032120 everyone out there today FcTYYAzsrIM-00114-00032120-00032400 you know I said ever since I came to MIT FcTYYAzsrIM-00115-00032401-00032610 20 years ago we've been organizing these FcTYYAzsrIM-00116-00032611-00032859 forums on democracy and new media FcTYYAzsrIM-00117-00032860-00033072 through the communication forum event FcTYYAzsrIM-00118-00033073-00033249 and every year going into the election FcTYYAzsrIM-00119-00033250-00033591 cycle we hear pundits say this is going FcTYYAzsrIM-00120-00033592-00033717 to be the one this is the one that FcTYYAzsrIM-00121-00033718-00033867 digital media is going to transform FcTYYAzsrIM-00122-00033868-00034086 American society this is the one where FcTYYAzsrIM-00123-00034087-00034287 power of old media gives way to the FcTYYAzsrIM-00124-00034288-00034560 power of new media and then the election FcTYYAzsrIM-00125-00034561-00034770 ends whatever dramatic spectacular FcTYYAzsrIM-00126-00034771-00035004 events take place and the pundits then FcTYYAzsrIM-00127-00035005-00035202 say oops I guess we were wrong new media FcTYYAzsrIM-00128-00035203-00035331 didn't make that much difference anyway FcTYYAzsrIM-00129-00035332-00035607 it really was old media and it's agendas FcTYYAzsrIM-00130-00035608-00035853 that set the tone for this campaign now FcTYYAzsrIM-00131-00035854-00036027 mind you these are pundants speaking FcTYYAzsrIM-00132-00036028-00036207 through old media for the most part FcTYYAzsrIM-00133-00036208-00036408 who've decided that new media didn't FcTYYAzsrIM-00134-00036409-00036648 matter terribly much but it's been a FcTYYAzsrIM-00135-00036649-00036900 repeated cycle and I my own theory has FcTYYAzsrIM-00136-00036901-00037119 been that they really are looking for FcTYYAzsrIM-00137-00037120-00037314 them the digital equivalent of the FcTYYAzsrIM-00138-00037315-00037572 Kennedy Nixon debate the problem is the FcTYYAzsrIM-00139-00037573-00037737 Canadian Nexen debate is a March typical FcTYYAzsrIM-00140-00037738-00038019 example of broadcast media its power was FcTYYAzsrIM-00141-00038020-00038265 people all over the country watching the FcTYYAzsrIM-00142-00038266-00038465 same event at the same moment in time FcTYYAzsrIM-00143-00038466-00038786 rather than the dispersed decentralized FcTYYAzsrIM-00144-00038787-00039036 social networking effects that are FcTYYAzsrIM-00145-00039037-00039285 associated with new media as it has its FcTYYAzsrIM-00146-00039286-00039432 impact new media is never going to be FcTYYAzsrIM-00147-00039433-00039671 felt in that concentrated way FcTYYAzsrIM-00148-00039672-00039911 that of something like Kennedy Nixon FcTYYAzsrIM-00149-00039912-00040164 debate represented well I hope we can do FcTYYAzsrIM-00150-00040165-00040407 today though is to dig deeper into the FcTYYAzsrIM-00151-00040408-00040637 myth and reality of the role of new FcTYYAzsrIM-00152-00040638-00040901 media in this last election cycle to FcTYYAzsrIM-00153-00040902-00041129 sort of see how what these three experts FcTYYAzsrIM-00154-00041130-00041445 have to say about the role that new FcTYYAzsrIM-00155-00041446-00041598 media played and to see if we can come FcTYYAzsrIM-00156-00041599-00041814 or at least agree on some criteria that FcTYYAzsrIM-00157-00041815-00041987 would help us to think more deeply about FcTYYAzsrIM-00158-00041988-00042276 the role of new media as I do what I FcTYYAzsrIM-00159-00042277-00042545 think we have to dispel the myth that FcTYYAzsrIM-00160-00042546-00042761 it's about simply new media and that it FcTYYAzsrIM-00161-00042762-00042879 really is very much about the FcTYYAzsrIM-00162-00042880-00043101 relationship of old and new media that FcTYYAzsrIM-00163-00043102-00043332 we that one has to think about as we go FcTYYAzsrIM-00164-00043333-00043574 forward so what I want to do is begin by FcTYYAzsrIM-00165-00043575-00043715 having each of the people in the panel FcTYYAzsrIM-00166-00043716-00043895 sort of introduce we have introduction FcTYYAzsrIM-00167-00043896-00044045 just tell us what you've been up to for FcTYYAzsrIM-00168-00044046-00044298 the last 12 months you've been out there FcTYYAzsrIM-00169-00044299-00044468 dealing with the thick of this thing FcTYYAzsrIM-00170-00044469-00044670 from different vantage points so why FcTYYAzsrIM-00171-00044671-00044820 don't you just give as tell us a little FcTYYAzsrIM-00172-00044821-00044939 about yourself and what you've been FcTYYAzsrIM-00173-00044940-00045146 doing so again why don't you start us FcTYYAzsrIM-00174-00045147-00046271 off just a piece of information our FcTYYAzsrIM-00175-00046272-00046667 research folks sent us I think is so FcTYYAzsrIM-00176-00046668-00046868 illustrative of what we've been through FcTYYAzsrIM-00177-00046869-00047171 so we have a group of 18 to 22 year olds FcTYYAzsrIM-00178-00047172-00047310 all across the country it's sort of our FcTYYAzsrIM-00179-00047311-00047507 private audience community they were FcTYYAzsrIM-00180-00047508-00047771 constantly asking them about a whole FcTYYAzsrIM-00181-00047772-00047990 range of issues and of course related to FcTYYAzsrIM-00182-00047991-00048230 the election we asked them so tell us FcTYYAzsrIM-00183-00048231-00048569 three brands that really you associate FcTYYAzsrIM-00184-00048570-00048839 with Obama versus McCain you know just FcTYYAzsrIM-00185-00048840-00048983 to get a sense of you know how young FcTYYAzsrIM-00186-00048984-00049193 people are positioning these two and FcTYYAzsrIM-00187-00049194-00049604 with Obama the three brands were Apple FcTYYAzsrIM-00188-00049605-00049992 innovative you know Nike excellence and FcTYYAzsrIM-00189-00049993-00050223 coca-cola someone sturdy you know all FcTYYAzsrIM-00190-00050224-00050501 sort of top-tier brands with John McCain FcTYYAzsrIM-00191-00050502-00050982 the brands were Exxon Mobil Tommy FcTYYAzsrIM-00192-00050983-00051632 Hilfiger and bet and bengay and I think FcTYYAzsrIM-00193-00051633-00051932 that's a it's funny but it's so elective FcTYYAzsrIM-00194-00051933-00052241 of how our audience I think absorbed FcTYYAzsrIM-00195-00052242-00052547 both of these both of these candidates FcTYYAzsrIM-00196-00052548-00052785 as folks that you know I I have the job FcTYYAzsrIM-00197-00052786-00053022 at MTV which is all about how to FcTYYAzsrIM-00198-00053023-00053250 how to use the power of our brand to FcTYYAzsrIM-00199-00053251-00053504 engage young people and some of the the FcTYYAzsrIM-00200-00053505-00053694 biggest issues facing their generation FcTYYAzsrIM-00201-00053695-00053871 so we've done a lot of work around FcTYYAzsrIM-00202-00053872-00054135 issues like HIV global poverty FcTYYAzsrIM-00203-00054136-00054558 discrimination global warming but we FcTYYAzsrIM-00204-00054559-00054984 clearly discovered way back in 1992 that FcTYYAzsrIM-00205-00054985-00055146 the political process particularly FcTYYAzsrIM-00206-00055147-00055440 presidential politics was a mystery to FcTYYAzsrIM-00207-00055441-00055754 most young people in that they rarely FcTYYAzsrIM-00208-00055755-00055950 felt that presidential candidates were FcTYYAzsrIM-00209-00055951-00056100 speaking to them about the issues that FcTYYAzsrIM-00210-00056101-00056405 really mattered to them were speaking to FcTYYAzsrIM-00211-00056407-00056520 them in a language that they could FcTYYAzsrIM-00212-00056521-00056829 understand presidential candidates FcTYYAzsrIM-00213-00056829-00056954 assumed young people weren't going to FcTYYAzsrIM-00214-00056955-00057150 vote this terrible cycle and so we FcTYYAzsrIM-00215-00057151-00057447 decided to step in back in 1992 to FcTYYAzsrIM-00216-00057448-00057636 create a campaign called choose or lose FcTYYAzsrIM-00217-00057637-00057894 which solely existed for the purpose of FcTYYAzsrIM-00218-00057895-00058185 mobilizing young people to understand FcTYYAzsrIM-00219-00058186-00058437 the issues to register to vote and FcTYYAzsrIM-00220-00058438-00058701 really get candidates to speak to 18 to FcTYYAzsrIM-00221-00058702-00059115 29 year olds and so 1992 1996 2000 2004 FcTYYAzsrIM-00222-00059116-00059346 so it's it's been a it's been a business FcTYYAzsrIM-00223-00059347-00059591 we've been in now for some time and FcTYYAzsrIM-00224-00059591-00059901 while everyone I think really was FcTYYAzsrIM-00225-00059902-00060092 looking like this year Obama the FcTYYAzsrIM-00226-00060094-00060303 phenomenon you know we've been seeing an FcTYYAzsrIM-00227-00060304-00060704 incredible upward swing since 2004 that FcTYYAzsrIM-00228-00060705-00060842 young people have just been coming out FcTYYAzsrIM-00229-00060844-00061091 in big big numbers in 2004 they're FcTYYAzsrIM-00230-00061092-00061377 almost four million more 18 to 29 year FcTYYAzsrIM-00231-00061378-00061662 olds that voted than in the year 2000 FcTYYAzsrIM-00232-00061663-00062001 and then in 2006 in terms of FcTYYAzsrIM-00233-00062002-00062184 congressional midterm elections it was FcTYYAzsrIM-00234-00062185-00062379 the highest turnout in more than two FcTYYAzsrIM-00235-00062379-00062634 decades so we were fully anticipating FcTYYAzsrIM-00236-00062635-00062913 that come 2008 we would see big big FcTYYAzsrIM-00237-00062914-00063116 numbers and again in the in the FcTYYAzsrIM-00238-00063117-00063351 presidential primaries turnout was FcTYYAzsrIM-00239-00063352-00063704 double quadruple and quadruple in some FcTYYAzsrIM-00240-00063705-00064026 states and so we we saw that there was FcTYYAzsrIM-00241-00064027-00064401 this phenomena occurring and clearly and FcTYYAzsrIM-00242-00064402-00064592 and really been more than 12 months we FcTYYAzsrIM-00243-00064594-00064845 started our you know presidential FcTYYAzsrIM-00244-00064846-00065271 coverage essentially back in February of FcTYYAzsrIM-00245-00065272-00065490 2007 there's just it's just we have FcTYYAzsrIM-00246-00065491-00065787 never ever 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FcTYYAzsrIM-00260-00068885-00069067 wouldn't they do that around social FcTYYAzsrIM-00261-00069068-00069331 issues and presidential politics and so FcTYYAzsrIM-00262-00069332-00069490 this whole idea of we were gonna have a FcTYYAzsrIM-00263-00069491-00069694 national election but there are a lot of FcTYYAzsrIM-00264-00069695-00069835 young people that were really interested FcTYYAzsrIM-00265-00069836-00070063 in local issues because in many states FcTYYAzsrIM-00266-00070064-00070300 many cities who your local alderman is FcTYYAzsrIM-00267-00070301-00070501 mayor may have a lot more influence over FcTYYAzsrIM-00268-00070502-00070744 your life than necessarily who the FcTYYAzsrIM-00269-00070745-00071017 president was and so we saw with all FcTYYAzsrIM-00270-00071018-00071212 these new technologies we saw an FcTYYAzsrIM-00271-00071213-00071464 opportunity to partner with the knight FcTYYAzsrIM-00272-00071465-00071638 Foundation around something called their FcTYYAzsrIM-00273-00071639-00071926 night news challenge where we created an FcTYYAzsrIM-00274-00071927-00072235 idea called street team oh eight where FcTYYAzsrIM-00275-00072236-00072559 we had 51 journalists one from each FcTYYAzsrIM-00276-00072560-00072871 state and DC whose sole job it was all FcTYYAzsrIM-00277-00072872-00073138 year long to report on issues of FcTYYAzsrIM-00278-00073139-00073321 importance to young people within their FcTYYAzsrIM-00279-00073322-00073630 given state and to really you know use FcTYYAzsrIM-00280-00073631-00073825 all the technologies whether it be and FcTYYAzsrIM-00281-00073826-00073963 I'll have a short video they'll play FcTYYAzsrIM-00282-00073964-00074218 right now use mobile technologies use FcTYYAzsrIM-00283-00074219-00074506 online use Twitter the the basic premise FcTYYAzsrIM-00284-00074507-00074770 was go to where young people are already FcTYYAzsrIM-00285-00074771-00074995 and that we don't care where the media FcTYYAzsrIM-00286-00074996-00075151 is consumed but just reach them where FcTYYAzsrIM-00287-00075152-00075343 they are and it was just and again we'll FcTYYAzsrIM-00288-00075344-00075490 talk about it more was a phenomenal FcTYYAzsrIM-00289-00075491-00075814 experience to see these 51 report over FcTYYAzsrIM-00290-00075815-00076024 the course of the year and made with FcTYYAzsrIM-00291-00076025-00076144 that thought I'll and we'll show the FcTYYAzsrIM-00292-00076145-00076474 video and tons more to tons more to talk FcTYYAzsrIM-00293-00076475-00077449 about yes we all knew this election was FcTYYAzsrIM-00294-00077450-00077605 going to be different FcTYYAzsrIM-00295-00077606-00078568 there's the explosion and we all knew FcTYYAzsrIM-00296-00078569-00078753 this election was going to be different FcTYYAzsrIM-00297-00078754-00079024 there's the explosion and turnout at the FcTYYAzsrIM-00298-00079025-00079276 Iowa caucuses and a movement among young FcTYYAzsrIM-00299-00079277-00079471 voters in particular unlike anything FcTYYAzsrIM-00300-00079472-00079699 we've seen before and of course some FcTYYAzsrIM-00301-00079700-00079858 history-making candidates from the FcTYYAzsrIM-00302-00079859-00080107 get-go but there was also a new way of FcTYYAzsrIM-00303-00080108-00080344 covering the election the technology FcTYYAzsrIM-00304-00080345-00080506 that had just begun the revolutionized FcTYYAzsrIM-00305-00080507-00080736 politics in 2004 had gone viral FcTYYAzsrIM-00306-00080737-00081007 reporting or some version of it had FcTYYAzsrIM-00307-00081008-00081268 become decentralized networked and more FcTYYAzsrIM-00308-00081269-00081481 mobile than ever high definition and FcTYYAzsrIM-00309-00081482-00081682 formality took a backseat to immediacy FcTYYAzsrIM-00310-00081683-00081895 and intimacy for the YouTube generation FcTYYAzsrIM-00311-00081896-00082192 street team o8 was just one such FcTYYAzsrIM-00312-00082193-00082524 experiment 51 young amateur News hounds FcTYYAzsrIM-00313-00082525-00082768 representing every state in the District FcTYYAzsrIM-00314-00082769-00083014 of Columbia some with journalism degrees FcTYYAzsrIM-00315-00083015-00083338 most not so much gathered in New York FcTYYAzsrIM-00316-00083339-00083539 City for a two-day crash course in FcTYYAzsrIM-00317-00083540-00083809 videography and journalists ethics and FcTYYAzsrIM-00318-00083810-00084103 then we were turned loose into the wild FcTYYAzsrIM-00319-00084104-00084346 we were to cover national news from a FcTYYAzsrIM-00320-00084347-00084628 local perspective and vice versa and all FcTYYAzsrIM-00321-00084629-00084841 through the eyes of young voters from FcTYYAzsrIM-00322-00084842-00085771 stump speeches in Georgia all the way FcTYYAzsrIM-00323-00085772-00086694 the stump speeches in Washington State FcTYYAzsrIM-00324-00086695-00087007 from showing how national issues affect FcTYYAzsrIM-00325-00087008-00087284 local young voters $600 travels a lot FcTYYAzsrIM-00326-00087285-00087434 farther in West Virginia than it would FcTYYAzsrIM-00327-00087435-00087631 in other states therefore there's a good FcTYYAzsrIM-00328-00087632-00087781 chance that Mountaineers might be more FcTYYAzsrIM-00329-00087782-00087976 prudent with their cash somewhat FcTYYAzsrIM-00330-00087977-00088156 defeating the purpose of this economic FcTYYAzsrIM-00331-00088157-00088538 stimulus bill I would use $600 to pay FcTYYAzsrIM-00332-00088539-00088831 for rent to sharing our community FcTYYAzsrIM-00333-00088832-00089060 stories with the national audience I FcTYYAzsrIM-00334-00089061-00089350 think that our vote can really count now FcTYYAzsrIM-00335-00089351-00089522 because a lot of people are really FcTYYAzsrIM-00336-00089523-00089690 embracing indigenous culture and FcTYYAzsrIM-00337-00089691-00089831 indigenous ways people who aren't FcTYYAzsrIM-00338-00089832-00090019 indigenous they they look they look upon FcTYYAzsrIM-00339-00090020-00090266 our people as as people who have always FcTYYAzsrIM-00340-00090267-00090463 known it and paying particular attention FcTYYAzsrIM-00341-00090464-00090692 to one of our most important issues this FcTYYAzsrIM-00342-00090693-00090866 year the plight of our young veterans FcTYYAzsrIM-00343-00090867-00091138 and it just got worse and I end up my FcTYYAzsrIM-00344-00091139-00091390 having a relapse I ended up actually FcTYYAzsrIM-00345-00091391-00091706 getting behind the wheel of a car you FcTYYAzsrIM-00346-00091707-00091847 know after I've been drinking I got into FcTYYAzsrIM-00347-00091848-00092012 a wreck and I got the boot that's how I FcTYYAzsrIM-00348-00092013-00092368 got out that was a Marine Corps infantry FcTYYAzsrIM-00349-00092369-00092699 in Iraq as a veteran I know it was FcTYYAzsrIM-00350-00092700-00092881 difficult for me when I came out of the FcTYYAzsrIM-00351-00092882-00093122 military trying to be a civilian again I FcTYYAzsrIM-00352-00093123-00093457 had to fight and scrape and pander the FcTYYAzsrIM-00353-00093458-00093682 government to get me the things that I FcTYYAzsrIM-00354-00093683-00094010 rape and for the most part not paying FcTYYAzsrIM-00355-00094011-00094213 nearly as much attention to Paris Hilton FcTYYAzsrIM-00356-00094214-00094393 as you might think instead of talking FcTYYAzsrIM-00357-00094394-00094613 about cheap celebrity drama let's talk FcTYYAzsrIM-00358-00094614-00094807 about our not so cheap four hundred and FcTYYAzsrIM-00359-00094808-00095021 eighty two billion dollar projected FcTYYAzsrIM-00360-00095022-00095417 budget deficit for 2009 a new record bTW FcTYYAzsrIM-00361-00095418-00095603 we also tried to push the edge of the FcTYYAzsrIM-00362-00095604-00095794 reporting envelope in ways only our FcTYYAzsrIM-00363-00095795-00096071 technological generation can on Super FcTYYAzsrIM-00364-00096072-00096254 Tuesday we used video enabled cell FcTYYAzsrIM-00365-00096255-00096457 phones to cover almost every primary FcTYYAzsrIM-00366-00096458-00096676 state throughout the day streaming live FcTYYAzsrIM-00367-00096677-00096901 video from the phones to our website and FcTYYAzsrIM-00368-00096902-00098471 from there to the cable network we even FcTYYAzsrIM-00369-00098472-00098750 got one very elusive future VP candidate FcTYYAzsrIM-00370-00098751-00098968 on one of our cell phones FcTYYAzsrIM-00371-00098969-00099166 this is the cool thing I can talk about FcTYYAzsrIM-00372-00099167-00099487 involvement by Americans having to say FcTYYAzsrIM-00373-00099488-00099760 and where this nation's kind of goes I FcTYYAzsrIM-00374-00099761-00099959 need a and for a last night you know I FcTYYAzsrIM-00375-00099960-00100141 hopefully register on somebody's radar FcTYYAzsrIM-00376-00100142-00100415 screen yeah I think they're on our radar FcTYYAzsrIM-00377-00100416-00100651 now we did it again for the conventions FcTYYAzsrIM-00378-00100652-00100786 although by this time we were hardly FcTYYAzsrIM-00379-00100787-00102130 alone in Denver and Minneapolis on the FcTYYAzsrIM-00380-00102131-00103884 inside and Minneapolis on the outside FcTYYAzsrIM-00381-00103885-00104205 gasps people gasping people here guests FcTYYAzsrIM-00382-00104206-00104330 coming down FcTYYAzsrIM-00383-00104331-00104844 trying to get away my nostrils are FcTYYAzsrIM-00384-00104845-00105000 burning soon my eyes are starting to FcTYYAzsrIM-00385-00105001-00105469 water local national on the ground on FcTYYAzsrIM-00386-00105470-00105798 the web and mobile talking to young FcTYYAzsrIM-00387-00105799-00106100 voters as young voters where they are FcTYYAzsrIM-00388-00106101-00106461 this is politics in 2008 is an FcTYYAzsrIM-00389-00106462-00106822 improvement don't know yet but I bet FcTYYAzsrIM-00390-00106823-00108159 2012 is gonna be crazy back to Paris FcTYYAzsrIM-00391-00108160-00108366 Hilton I remember the good old days when FcTYYAzsrIM-00392-00108367-00108612 the budget deficit actually was four FcTYYAzsrIM-00393-00108613-00108789 hundred eighty billion in tech the FcTYYAzsrIM-00394-00108790-00108960 national debt increased by four hundred FcTYYAzsrIM-00395-00108961-00109257 eighty billion or so in October alone FcTYYAzsrIM-00396-00109258-00109809 but I have had the privilege of doing FcTYYAzsrIM-00397-00109810-00110190 journalism in a new media format mostly FcTYYAzsrIM-00398-00110191-00110448 on on the blog for one of the oldest FcTYYAzsrIM-00399-00110449-00110676 most established old media brands in the FcTYYAzsrIM-00400-00110677-00111022 country namely the Atlantic which was FcTYYAzsrIM-00401-00111023-00111256 founded more than 150 years ago as a FcTYYAzsrIM-00402-00111257-00111678 clarion call to the nation to fight FcTYYAzsrIM-00403-00111679-00111924 against slavery an addition to that I FcTYYAzsrIM-00404-00111925-00112128 was also a consultant for CBS News so it FcTYYAzsrIM-00405-00112129-00112533 really gave me a good mash of old media FcTYYAzsrIM-00406-00112534-00112740 and new media perspectives I just want FcTYYAzsrIM-00407-00112741-00112981 to tell one very brief story about a FcTYYAzsrIM-00408-00112982-00113175 story that I think illustrates a little FcTYYAzsrIM-00409-00113176-00113383 bit the moment that we're in it doesn't FcTYYAzsrIM-00410-00113383-00113703 make me look very good but about a week FcTYYAzsrIM-00411-00113704-00114114 before the election John a Barack FcTYYAzsrIM-00412-00114115-00114285 Obama's national field director John FcTYYAzsrIM-00413-00114286-00114615 Carson sent an email to several thousand FcTYYAzsrIM-00414-00114616-00114924 obama supporters who were living in FcTYYAzsrIM-00415-00114925-00115149 arizona and the email said you know our FcTYYAzsrIM-00416-00115150-00115323 internal polling shows that Arizona is a FcTYYAzsrIM-00417-00115324-00115566 really close race we want to try and see FcTYYAzsrIM-00418-00115567-00115791 if we can increase our field efforts FcTYYAzsrIM-00419-00115792-00116108 there we want to get people to volunteer FcTYYAzsrIM-00420-00116109-00116312 somebody who received that email FcTYYAzsrIM-00421-00116313-00116577 forwarded it along to me I thought it FcTYYAzsrIM-00422-00116578-00116754 was a fairly it wasn't it's not a huge FcTYYAzsrIM-00423-00116755-00116869 story but I thought it was a fairly FcTYYAzsrIM-00424-00116870-00117150 interesting example of what the Obama FcTYYAzsrIM-00425-00117151-00117309 campaign was doing and week before the FcTYYAzsrIM-00426-00117310-00117609 election and of course illustrating even FcTYYAzsrIM-00427-00117610-00117676 if they were fake FcTYYAzsrIM-00428-00117677-00117850 in a sense that they thought Arizona was FcTYYAzsrIM-00429-00117851-00118219 competitive so I put the email on my FcTYYAzsrIM-00430-00118220-00118408 blog I stripped out what I thought were FcTYYAzsrIM-00431-00118408-00118560 all the identifying information of the FcTYYAzsrIM-00432-00118561-00119071 person who received the email but what I FcTYYAzsrIM-00433-00119072-00119323 didn't realize is that every email that FcTYYAzsrIM-00434-00119324-00119626 the Obama campaign sent out included FcTYYAzsrIM-00435-00119627-00120031 embedded hidden geocoding that so that FcTYYAzsrIM-00436-00120032-00120367 the the link the volunteer leaked if you FcTYYAzsrIM-00437-00120368-00120490 wanted to volunteer even though it was FcTYYAzsrIM-00438-00120491-00120636 it seemed fairly generic it was FcTYYAzsrIM-00439-00120638-00120850 something like Barack Obama comm slash FcTYYAzsrIM-00440-00120851-00121054 Arizona every time you click through FcTYYAzsrIM-00441-00121055-00121456 that link it would send a message to the FcTYYAzsrIM-00442-00121457-00121708 Obama campaign central servers showing FcTYYAzsrIM-00443-00121708-00122050 exactly whose email had been used had FcTYYAzsrIM-00444-00122051-00122299 been used to facilitate that link so of FcTYYAzsrIM-00445-00122300-00122470 course in journalism you never want to FcTYYAzsrIM-00446-00122471-00122680 reveal your sources and again this FcTYYAzsrIM-00447-00122681-00122965 wasn't something terribly huge but the FcTYYAzsrIM-00448-00122966-00123219 the poor guy who sent me FcTYYAzsrIM-00449-00123220-00123429 who-who-who forwarded me the email FcTYYAzsrIM-00450-00123430-00123670 suddenly got lots of ribbing and teasing FcTYYAzsrIM-00451-00123671-00123850 emails from Obama people asking why he FcTYYAzsrIM-00452-00123851-00124152 had forwarded me afforded me the email FcTYYAzsrIM-00453-00124153-00124420 so again it's sort of an example of how FcTYYAzsrIM-00454-00124421-00124777 I think even the practices of modern FcTYYAzsrIM-00455-00124778-00125023 journalism haven't necessarily caught up FcTYYAzsrIM-00456-00125024-00125458 with new media technology so I'm happy FcTYYAzsrIM-00457-00125458-00125608 to talk about that and lots of other FcTYYAzsrIM-00458-00125608-00125960 things FcTYYAzsrIM-00459-00125961-00126226 well I stumbled into this election cycle FcTYYAzsrIM-00460-00126227-00126574 someone accidentally I I spent 10 years FcTYYAzsrIM-00461-00126575-00126931 at Microsoft and then went to Yahoo and FcTYYAzsrIM-00462-00126932-00127231 was at Yahoo for two years and my job FcTYYAzsrIM-00463-00127232-00127440 with both companies was to help FcTYYAzsrIM-00464-00127441-00127642 politicians figuring out how to use FcTYYAzsrIM-00465-00127643-00127953 those companies products to influence FcTYYAzsrIM-00466-00127954-00128293 elections as an example you know working FcTYYAzsrIM-00467-00128294-00128617 with Mitt Romney on a video mashup tool FcTYYAzsrIM-00468-00128618-00128850 called jump cut that Yahoo had acquired FcTYYAzsrIM-00469-00128851-00129145 working with campaigns to geocode their FcTYYAzsrIM-00470-00129146-00129352 Flickr photos and understand how that FcTYYAzsrIM-00471-00129353-00129483 worked FcTYYAzsrIM-00472-00129484-00129742 I spent the bulk of my time helping FcTYYAzsrIM-00473-00129743-00130114 senator Obama and Senator Clinton think FcTYYAzsrIM-00474-00130115-00130267 about how to integrate themselves into FcTYYAzsrIM-00475-00130268-00130420 these networks and I grew up a FcTYYAzsrIM-00476-00130421-00130597 Republican I'm an army brat traveled FcTYYAzsrIM-00477-00130598-00130683 around FcTYYAzsrIM-00478-00130683-00130929 the world from military base to military FcTYYAzsrIM-00479-00130930-00131298 base and really with my core interest is FcTYYAzsrIM-00480-00131299-00131621 the intersection of Technology and FcTYYAzsrIM-00481-00131622-00131883 politics and how the world is evolving FcTYYAzsrIM-00482-00131884-00132144 but never did I think that I'd actually FcTYYAzsrIM-00483-00132145-00132390 be a part of a campaign and one day I FcTYYAzsrIM-00484-00132391-00132684 got a call from a friend who used to FcTYYAzsrIM-00485-00132685-00132783 work at the Republican National FcTYYAzsrIM-00486-00132784-00132990 Committee and said they need somebody FcTYYAzsrIM-00487-00132991-00133224 that understands technology are you FcTYYAzsrIM-00488-00133225-00133536 interested and I reflected on sort of FcTYYAzsrIM-00489-00133537-00133701 what I was doing at that time and it was FcTYYAzsrIM-00490-00133702-00133902 basically spending the majority of at FcTYYAzsrIM-00491-00133903-00134046 helping senator Obama and Senator FcTYYAzsrIM-00492-00134047-00134298 Clinton and at that point decided that FcTYYAzsrIM-00493-00134299-00134493 if I was really gonna be in this FcTYYAzsrIM-00494-00134494-00134634 election I may as well jump in FcTYYAzsrIM-00495-00134635-00134973 wholeheartedly and went back to my party FcTYYAzsrIM-00496-00134974-00135261 and moved across country and had a FcTYYAzsrIM-00497-00135262-00135525 really fascinating experience the last FcTYYAzsrIM-00498-00135526-00136092 20 months so let's jump right into the FcTYYAzsrIM-00499-00136093-00136374 core issue of the panel I like to start FcTYYAzsrIM-00500-00136375-00136551 with sort of broad first principles so FcTYYAzsrIM-00501-00136552-00136704 if we were gonna make an argument one FcTYYAzsrIM-00502-00136705-00136863 way or another about the impact of new FcTYYAzsrIM-00503-00136864-00137106 media on this election cycle what are FcTYYAzsrIM-00504-00137107-00137325 the criteria we would use what in what FcTYYAzsrIM-00505-00137326-00137514 way it would not did new media make a FcTYYAzsrIM-00506-00137515-00137652 difference I think we can agree it did FcTYYAzsrIM-00507-00137653-00137802 but in what ways did it make a FcTYYAzsrIM-00508-00137803-00138495 difference I'm just gonna say one thing FcTYYAzsrIM-00509-00138496-00138669 that I think you saw right at the FcTYYAzsrIM-00510-00138670-00138864 beginning of this cycle was a lot of old FcTYYAzsrIM-00511-00138865-00139125 media platforms using new media FcTYYAzsrIM-00512-00139126-00139449 technologies and essentially adopting FcTYYAzsrIM-00513-00139450-00139941 the rhetorical styles and and the style FcTYYAzsrIM-00514-00139942-00140121 of new media and essentially trying as FcTYYAzsrIM-00515-00140122-00140361 large conglomerates and corporation do FcTYYAzsrIM-00516-00140362-00140733 to sort of muscle in on the territory of FcTYYAzsrIM-00517-00140734-00140970 independent new media so I think you at FcTYYAzsrIM-00518-00140971-00141131 first have to make a distinction between FcTYYAzsrIM-00519-00141132-00141462 independent new media and then the the FcTYYAzsrIM-00520-00141463-00141660 new media that was generated by the old FcTYYAzsrIM-00521-00141661-00141867 meat I mean you had a publication for FcTYYAzsrIM-00522-00141868-00142473 example like the Politico which was or FcTYYAzsrIM-00523-00142474-00142797 and is a fascinating example of a of a FcTYYAzsrIM-00524-00142798-00143310 new medium startup that was that was FcTYYAzsrIM-00525-00143311-00143538 originated by an old media corporation FcTYYAzsrIM-00526-00143539-00143823 in in Virginia and really made a huge FcTYYAzsrIM-00527-00143824-00143937 impact and FcTYYAzsrIM-00528-00143938-00144111 a lot of stories and so on and so forth FcTYYAzsrIM-00529-00144112-00144268 so I think you have to make you have to FcTYYAzsrIM-00530-00144269-00144771 make that distinction first yeah I mean FcTYYAzsrIM-00531-00144772-00144969 I would say you know sort of brass tacks FcTYYAzsrIM-00532-00144970-00145194 I think the number one criteria that you FcTYYAzsrIM-00533-00145195-00145497 would look at is who voted and how many FcTYYAzsrIM-00534-00145498-00145875 you know we have know about 24 million FcTYYAzsrIM-00535-00145876-00146184 18 to 29 year olds voted which again if FcTYYAzsrIM-00536-00146185-00146385 you it was about again close to a four FcTYYAzsrIM-00537-00146386-00146712 million person increase from from 2004 FcTYYAzsrIM-00538-00146713-00147000 we are strongly strongly believe that FcTYYAzsrIM-00539-00147001-00147345 that is a big fat and 70 percent of FcTYYAzsrIM-00540-00147346-00147543 those nearly 70% of those voted for FcTYYAzsrIM-00541-00147544-00147891 senator Obama which was the largest gap FcTYYAzsrIM-00542-00147892-00148224 ever between two candidates within our FcTYYAzsrIM-00543-00148225-00148419 generation we're convinced that has a FcTYYAzsrIM-00544-00148420-00148788 big part of that is his use of new media FcTYYAzsrIM-00545-00148789-00149103 and and how he used it I mean it's it's FcTYYAzsrIM-00546-00149104-00149334 just extraordinary and it's a a lot of FcTYYAzsrIM-00547-00149335-00149508 folks talk about and is very bottom up FcTYYAzsrIM-00548-00149509-00149670 it was actually I we believe very FcTYYAzsrIM-00549-00149671-00150066 centralized but decentralized process FcTYYAzsrIM-00550-00150067-00150384 you know this this idea that everyone FcTYYAzsrIM-00551-00150385-00150813 had sort of part ownership of his brand FcTYYAzsrIM-00552-00150814-00151053 it's so interesting right that you FcTYYAzsrIM-00553-00151054-00151296 talked earlier about you know facts you FcTYYAzsrIM-00554-00151297-00151539 know did people care you know one things FcTYYAzsrIM-00555-00151540-00151635 about the internet not only does it FcTYYAzsrIM-00556-00151636-00151761 allow greater distribution of FcTYYAzsrIM-00557-00151762-00151899 information allows greater distribution FcTYYAzsrIM-00558-00151900-00152334 of misinformation but even that Senator FcTYYAzsrIM-00559-00152335-00152640 Obama mastered and probably most folks FcTYYAzsrIM-00560-00152641-00152794 saw this website that they created FcTYYAzsrIM-00561-00152795-00153207 called fight the smears calm which we FcTYYAzsrIM-00562-00153208-00153351 just thought was incredible I mean here FcTYYAzsrIM-00563-00153352-00153561 was a site that was set up for the FcTYYAzsrIM-00564-00153562-00153909 deliberate purpose of highlighting a lot FcTYYAzsrIM-00565-00153910-00154101 of the internet rumors that heretofore FcTYYAzsrIM-00566-00154102-00154473 usually were used to destroy a campaign FcTYYAzsrIM-00567-00154474-00154758 and yet it was used as a vehicle to give FcTYYAzsrIM-00568-00154759-00155124 his supporters away to be active in the FcTYYAzsrIM-00569-00155125-00155571 campaign so are you going there yeah FcTYYAzsrIM-00570-00155572-00155889 it's fight the smears calm and the power FcTYYAzsrIM-00571-00155890-00156264 of it is it literally lists in a very FcTYYAzsrIM-00572-00156265-00156671 user friendly way all the most terrible FcTYYAzsrIM-00573-00156672-00156921 rumors about Senator Obama he's a FcTYYAzsrIM-00574-00156922-00157272 socialist he's a terrorist he wasn't FcTYYAzsrIM-00575-00157273-00157318 actually FcTYYAzsrIM-00576-00157319-00157804 in Hawaii what else there well he's a FcTYYAzsrIM-00577-00157805-00158065 Muslim and the beauty of this was that FcTYYAzsrIM-00578-00158066-00158284 it highlighted and said you know what FcTYYAzsrIM-00579-00158285-00158500 get the facts so you could go to this FcTYYAzsrIM-00580-00158501-00158779 website learn the truth from the FcTYYAzsrIM-00581-00158780-00159025 perspective of Senator Obama but most FcTYYAzsrIM-00582-00159026-00159205 importantly on the left hand side if you FcTYYAzsrIM-00583-00159206-00159358 scroll down a little bit there's a FcTYYAzsrIM-00584-00159359-00159502 little widget that you could put on your FcTYYAzsrIM-00585-00159503-00159796 Facebook page or your MySpace page help FcTYYAzsrIM-00586-00159797-00160114 us spread the truth so so then you FcTYYAzsrIM-00587-00160115-00160372 became an ally in Senate Obama to FcTYYAzsrIM-00588-00160373-00160654 preserve and protect his brand so every FcTYYAzsrIM-00589-00160655-00161010 single person had a role to play in his FcTYYAzsrIM-00590-00161011-00161344 campaign which is this level of thinking FcTYYAzsrIM-00591-00161345-00161503 you know if you go to many of his FcTYYAzsrIM-00592-00161504-00161713 YouTube pages where all his videos were FcTYYAzsrIM-00593-00161714-00161950 there you had the ability to actually FcTYYAzsrIM-00594-00161951-00162261 donate to his campaign all of these very FcTYYAzsrIM-00595-00162262-00162696 subtle but incredibly powerful and viral FcTYYAzsrIM-00596-00162697-00163006 mechanisms to give every single person a FcTYYAzsrIM-00597-00163007-00163285 way to actually engage so so no longer FcTYYAzsrIM-00598-00163286-00163459 this idea of just being a passive FcTYYAzsrIM-00599-00163460-00163663 supporter you could give money but if FcTYYAzsrIM-00600-00163664-00163753 you couldn't give money you could FcTYYAzsrIM-00601-00163754-00163972 organize local beat ups if you go to my FcTYYAzsrIM-00602-00163973-00164317 Barack Obama calm you can find you know FcTYYAzsrIM-00603-00164318-00164518 local initiatives that were happening FcTYYAzsrIM-00604-00164519-00164773 and it wasn't that Senator McCain wasn't FcTYYAzsrIM-00605-00164774-00165013 using these I think over time they FcTYYAzsrIM-00606-00165014-00165208 finally started to adopt these tools but FcTYYAzsrIM-00607-00165209-00165376 just the level of precision and thought FcTYYAzsrIM-00608-00165377-00165655 that had gone before with senator Obama FcTYYAzsrIM-00609-00165656-00165850 I just think set up a foundation that FcTYYAzsrIM-00610-00165851-00166090 just ultimately it was just not they FcTYYAzsrIM-00611-00166091-00166597 couldn't cover the gap well I I'd be FcTYYAzsrIM-00612-00166598-00166885 remiss if I didn't provide some FcTYYAzsrIM-00613-00166886-00167062 historical context and the evolution of FcTYYAzsrIM-00614-00167063-00167344 Technology and presidential campaigns FcTYYAzsrIM-00615-00167345-00167764 and if we can harken back to the 2004 FcTYYAzsrIM-00616-00167765-00168235 election GOP team leader which was the FcTYYAzsrIM-00617-00168236-00168436 first development in trying to create a FcTYYAzsrIM-00618-00168437-00168679 social network and environment to FcTYYAzsrIM-00619-00168680-00169027 congregate the electorate was really I FcTYYAzsrIM-00620-00169028-00169222 think if you go back and look the the FcTYYAzsrIM-00621-00169223-00169537 first true example that the Obama FcTYYAzsrIM-00622-00169538-00169951 campaign revved on so I think the the FcTYYAzsrIM-00623-00169952-00170485 media cycle didn't really discounted the FcTYYAzsrIM-00624-00170486-00170659 background that the party had and you FcTYYAzsrIM-00625-00170660-00170677 know FcTYYAzsrIM-00626-00170678-00170842 so this was the the bush-cheney team FcTYYAzsrIM-00627-00170843-00171103 that had developed this the the McCain FcTYYAzsrIM-00628-00171104-00171415 campaign had a much different version FcTYYAzsrIM-00629-00171416-00171613 and that basically developed brand-new FcTYYAzsrIM-00630-00171614-00171928 code instead of building on top of GOP FcTYYAzsrIM-00631-00171929-00172369 team leader but I'm not sure well at FcTYYAzsrIM-00632-00172370-00172567 least from from my vantage point we FcTYYAzsrIM-00633-00172568-00172729 won't know the true impact of the FcTYYAzsrIM-00634-00172730-00172963 election for our party moving forward FcTYYAzsrIM-00635-00172964-00173242 until about another 45 days from now and FcTYYAzsrIM-00636-00173243-00173434 that's because we've been doing some FcTYYAzsrIM-00637-00173435-00173707 database work to analyze the impact of FcTYYAzsrIM-00638-00173708-00173890 the internet to turn out the vote and FcTYYAzsrIM-00639-00173891-00174190 try to determine if that was the sole FcTYYAzsrIM-00640-00174191-00174531 mechanism for influencing voters FcTYYAzsrIM-00641-00174532-00174754 decisions and it's very difficult to FcTYYAzsrIM-00642-00174755-00174979 create a control group where the FcTYYAzsrIM-00643-00174980-00175117 Internet's the sole determinant because FcTYYAzsrIM-00644-00175118-00175318 you're being barraged by so many FcTYYAzsrIM-00645-00175319-00175528 different media types the closest FcTYYAzsrIM-00646-00175529-00175777 example we were able to get to that was FcTYYAzsrIM-00647-00175778-00175954 in Louisiana during bobby Jindal's FcTYYAzsrIM-00648-00175955-00176263 gubernatorial race where we had taken FcTYYAzsrIM-00649-00176264-00176518 our database I should just back up a FcTYYAzsrIM-00650-00176519-00176668 little bit and give you some context on FcTYYAzsrIM-00651-00176669-00177031 our database voter vault we have a voter FcTYYAzsrIM-00652-00177032-00177510 file of every voter in the country if FcTYYAzsrIM-00653-00177511-00177895 imbedding tracking code and emails you FcTYYAzsrIM-00654-00177896-00178120 know scares you knowing how much FcTYYAzsrIM-00655-00178121-00178225 information we have in our database FcTYYAzsrIM-00656-00178226-00178497 about voter behavior in terms of FcTYYAzsrIM-00657-00178498-00178747 purchasing habits decision-making FcTYYAzsrIM-00658-00178748-00179068 magazines that you subscribe to cars FcTYYAzsrIM-00659-00179069-00179263 that you've purchased etc we can build a FcTYYAzsrIM-00660-00179264-00179538 pretty complex profile of voters and FcTYYAzsrIM-00661-00179539-00179824 there's a company called catalyst on the FcTYYAzsrIM-00662-00179825-00180045 Left who's doing this they hired the FcTYYAzsrIM-00663-00180046-00180364 they hired the CTO of Amazon to develop FcTYYAzsrIM-00664-00180365-00180610 their database and I'm not quite sure FcTYYAzsrIM-00665-00180611-00180817 that they're at parity with the FcTYYAzsrIM-00666-00180818-00180982 Republicans yet in their database FcTYYAzsrIM-00667-00180983-00181198 technology but the long and short of it FcTYYAzsrIM-00668-00181199-00181585 is we we took our database and we FcTYYAzsrIM-00669-00181586-00181774 overlaid it on top of major publishers FcTYYAzsrIM-00670-00181775-00181909 databases and we're able to identify FcTYYAzsrIM-00671-00181910-00182143 voters nationwide by party affiliation FcTYYAzsrIM-00672-00182144-00182365 and flag those individuals so that we FcTYYAzsrIM-00673-00182366-00182527 could then target succinct messages to FcTYYAzsrIM-00674-00182528-00182908 them at the household level and in the FcTYYAzsrIM-00675-00182909-00183358 Jindal campaign we served all sorts of FcTYYAzsrIM-00676-00183359-00183583 different online media types to voters FcTYYAzsrIM-00677-00183584-00184015 capturing their PII data FcTYYAzsrIM-00678-00184016-00184272 then after the election went and FcTYYAzsrIM-00679-00184273-00184522 analyzed the Secretary of State's roles FcTYYAzsrIM-00680-00184523-00184831 and determined that of the voters who FcTYYAzsrIM-00681-00184832-00185083 clicked on one of our banner ads and FcTYYAzsrIM-00682-00185084-00185335 gave us their information 76% of them FcTYYAzsrIM-00683-00185336-00185602 voted compared to 48% statewide turnout FcTYYAzsrIM-00684-00185603-00185851 so the Delta there is significant in FcTYYAzsrIM-00685-00185852-00186052 terms of what we were able to understand FcTYYAzsrIM-00686-00186053-00186235 about the Internet what we don't know FcTYYAzsrIM-00687-00186236-00186463 yet is at the nationwide level how that FcTYYAzsrIM-00688-00186464-00186817 same strategy impacted voters going to FcTYYAzsrIM-00689-00186818-00187078 the polls and I guess I'm able to answer FcTYYAzsrIM-00690-00187079-00187324 that question more thoroughly in a month FcTYYAzsrIM-00691-00187325-00187567 and a half but you can sign up I see you FcTYYAzsrIM-00692-00187568-00187735 with some of you with computers I'm on FcTYYAzsrIM-00693-00187736-00187966 Facebook Twitter or wherever just let's FcTYYAzsrIM-00694-00187967-00188134 link up and I'll give you the results so FcTYYAzsrIM-00695-00188135-00188236 you're basically saying is Barack Obama FcTYYAzsrIM-00696-00188237-00188452 would have won even more had it not been FcTYYAzsrIM-00697-00188453-00188839 for voter vault's technology something FcTYYAzsrIM-00698-00188840-00189052 like I wanted but no but I actually want FcTYYAzsrIM-00699-00189053-00189163 to I want to bring that back because we FcTYYAzsrIM-00700-00189164-00189457 are all technological fetishists here FcTYYAzsrIM-00701-00189458-00189658 but but we should go back to first FcTYYAzsrIM-00702-00189659-00189907 principles which is that the Bush FcTYYAzsrIM-00703-00189908-00190204 campaign in 2004 and the Obama campaign FcTYYAzsrIM-00704-00190205-00190615 in 2008 I think we're successful in part FcTYYAzsrIM-00705-00190616-00191266 because they both managed to use tried FcTYYAzsrIM-00706-00191267-00191461 and tested old media marketing FcTYYAzsrIM-00707-00191462-00191740 techniques and merge them with with FcTYYAzsrIM-00708-00191741-00192127 technology you know one of the and one FcTYYAzsrIM-00709-00192128-00192346 of the simplest insights of persuasion FcTYYAzsrIM-00710-00192347-00192526 or research on persuasion is simply that FcTYYAzsrIM-00711-00192527-00192700 people are more likely to respond to FcTYYAzsrIM-00712-00192701-00192889 people who look like them have FcTYYAzsrIM-00713-00192890-00193309 lifestyles like them so the Bush FcTYYAzsrIM-00714-00193310-00193642 campaign in 2004 organized its volunteer FcTYYAzsrIM-00715-00193643-00193771 canvassing around what they called FcTYYAzsrIM-00716-00193772-00194071 affinity groups people in certain areas FcTYYAzsrIM-00717-00194072-00194332 who owned guns would would would make FcTYYAzsrIM-00718-00194333-00194599 good canvas they'd go to make door FcTYYAzsrIM-00719-00194600-00194821 knocks or they telephone or they'd send FcTYYAzsrIM-00720-00194822-00195058 mail to either directly or via email to FcTYYAzsrIM-00721-00195059-00195217 people who also in guns in the same area FcTYYAzsrIM-00722-00195218-00195475 the Democrats in 2004 just did not have FcTYYAzsrIM-00723-00195476-00195613 the capacity to do that FcTYYAzsrIM-00724-00195614-00195886 well the Obama campaign with 630 million FcTYYAzsrIM-00725-00195887-00196186 dollars and very rapid technological FcTYYAzsrIM-00726-00196187-00196510 advancement I mean this the you know the FcTYYAzsrIM-00727-00196511-00196771 the period that it may be interesting to FcTYYAzsrIM-00728-00196772-00196921 see whether Democrats did catch up to FcTYYAzsrIM-00729-00196922-00197200 Republicans because both sides sort of FcTYYAzsrIM-00730-00197201-00197324 keep their FcTYYAzsrIM-00731-00197325-00197522 their cards as close to the best as FcTYYAzsrIM-00732-00197523-00197645 possible even after the election so FcTYYAzsrIM-00733-00197646-00197840 you're not quite sure but what the Obama FcTYYAzsrIM-00734-00197841-00198109 campaign was able to do is marry the FcTYYAzsrIM-00735-00198110-00198395 technology the economies of scale and FcTYYAzsrIM-00736-00198396-00198698 modern marketing techniques so they had FcTYYAzsrIM-00737-00198699-00198935 and they brag about an email database of FcTYYAzsrIM-00738-00198936-00199352 of just the Obama campaign alone of ten FcTYYAzsrIM-00739-00199353-00199535 million people about four million of FcTYYAzsrIM-00740-00199536-00199703 those people are actually just email FcTYYAzsrIM-00741-00199704-00200063 addresses and zip codes and the dirty FcTYYAzsrIM-00742-00200064-00200237 little secret is that the Obama campaign FcTYYAzsrIM-00743-00200238-00200507 was only able to figure out any that 85% FcTYYAzsrIM-00744-00200508-00200723 of who those people are so they don't FcTYYAzsrIM-00745-00200724-00200951 know who so because it's not the easiest FcTYYAzsrIM-00746-00200952-00201092 thing in the world to marry somebody's FcTYYAzsrIM-00747-00201093-00201311 email to their identity so that leaves FcTYYAzsrIM-00748-00201312-00201734 six million people left about three FcTYYAzsrIM-00749-00201735-00202067 million of them were contributors about FcTYYAzsrIM-00750-00202068-00202226 two million of them were active FcTYYAzsrIM-00751-00202227-00202388 volunteers that means they actually did FcTYYAzsrIM-00752-00202389-00202565 things through the variety of Barack FcTYYAzsrIM-00753-00202566-00202796 Obama websites and on Election Day they FcTYYAzsrIM-00754-00202797-00203036 had a million people using their FcTYYAzsrIM-00755-00203037-00203543 technologies which which again is again FcTYYAzsrIM-00756-00203544-00203714 something to think about the economy of FcTYYAzsrIM-00757-00203715-00203828 scale and they just had the money and FcTYYAzsrIM-00758-00203829-00204194 the technological resources to to do FcTYYAzsrIM-00759-00204195-00204353 that but they absolutely did build on FcTYYAzsrIM-00760-00204354-00204539 what the Republican the Republican FcTYYAzsrIM-00761-00204540-00204878 effort was in in 2004 and just to give FcTYYAzsrIM-00762-00204879-00205087 one concrete example about it you had a FcTYYAzsrIM-00763-00205088-00205286 place like Warren Michigan which is the FcTYYAzsrIM-00764-00205287-00205642 birthplace of the the the Reagan FcTYYAzsrIM-00765-00205644-00205796 Democrats where a Democratic pollster FcTYYAzsrIM-00766-00205796-00205958 Stanley greenberg famously did his FcTYYAzsrIM-00767-00205959-00206210 polling and sort of limbed out this FcTYYAzsrIM-00768-00206211-00206373 group of people called Reagan Democrats FcTYYAzsrIM-00769-00206375-00206651 traditionally Democrats weren't able to FcTYYAzsrIM-00770-00206652-00207016 figure out how to send for example if if FcTYYAzsrIM-00771-00207017-00207196 the target was a 53 year old mother of FcTYYAzsrIM-00772-00207198-00207394 two the Democrats didn't have the FcTYYAzsrIM-00773-00207396-00207605 resources to send to that person's home FcTYYAzsrIM-00774-00207606-00207803 or may have the person making the FcTYYAzsrIM-00775-00207804-00207991 telephone call you know a mother of two FcTYYAzsrIM-00776-00207992-00208223 who was in her 50s this cycle they could FcTYYAzsrIM-00777-00208223-00208516 do that and again this is an insight FcTYYAzsrIM-00778-00208517-00208744 that Republicans had earlier than the FcTYYAzsrIM-00779-00208746-00208962 Democrats and they have the resources to FcTYYAzsrIM-00780-00208963-00209242 put put it in a reality and this cycle FcTYYAzsrIM-00781-00209244-00209437 the Obama campaign had those resources FcTYYAzsrIM-00782-00209438-00209753 and that's I think part of the part of FcTYYAzsrIM-00783-00209754-00210046 part of the reason I think I think it's FcTYYAzsrIM-00784-00210048-00210215 part of the part of the answer to the FcTYYAzsrIM-00785-00210216-00210311 question I mean there's so many FcTYYAzsrIM-00786-00210312-00210446 different parts but I think that's part FcTYYAzsrIM-00787-00210446-00210621 of it FcTYYAzsrIM-00788-00210621-00210903 just point on that I think one of the FcTYYAzsrIM-00789-00210904-00211040 other interesting things that's happened FcTYYAzsrIM-00790-00211041-00211305 since really Howard Dean's use of FcTYYAzsrIM-00791-00211306-00211614 technology is data ownership and really FcTYYAzsrIM-00792-00211615-00211752 controlling that I mean when you look at FcTYYAzsrIM-00793-00211753-00211965 meetup comm and the fact that all of FcTYYAzsrIM-00794-00211966-00212352 that data was third party owned now with FcTYYAzsrIM-00795-00212353-00212871 API is etc the ability to distribute via FcTYYAzsrIM-00796-00212871-00213138 widgets etcetera and and then collect FcTYYAzsrIM-00797-00213139-00213342 and disseminate and parse that FcTYYAzsrIM-00798-00213342-00213504 information makes it so much more FcTYYAzsrIM-00799-00213505-00213753 powerful right both both parties used FcTYYAzsrIM-00800-00213754-00214119 for example Facebook applications to be FcTYYAzsrIM-00801-00214119-00214278 very easy on Facebook if you wanted to FcTYYAzsrIM-00802-00214279-00214430 make phone calls on behalf of John FcTYYAzsrIM-00803-00214431-00214701 McCain or I think the I think the McCain FcTYYAzsrIM-00804-00214702-00214821 campaign did this you can tell me if FcTYYAzsrIM-00805-00214821-00214980 they did Barack Obama you could just FcTYYAzsrIM-00806-00214981-00215163 within five or six minutes you would get FcTYYAzsrIM-00807-00215164-00215294 a list of people who you could start FcTYYAzsrIM-00808-00215296-00215633 calling again the the the the efficiency FcTYYAzsrIM-00809-00215634-00215892 of that sort of get out the voter origin FcTYYAzsrIM-00810-00215892-00216150 of the vote but persuasion is something FcTYYAzsrIM-00811-00216151-00216438 that this country has really has really FcTYYAzsrIM-00812-00216439-00216744 never seen well what was going on behind FcTYYAzsrIM-00813-00216744-00217084 the scenes in the social networks I FcTYYAzsrIM-00814-00217085-00217358 think far outweigh the value of the FcTYYAzsrIM-00815-00217359-00217515 actual interaction on the networks FcTYYAzsrIM-00816-00217516-00217803 themselves as an example you've probably FcTYYAzsrIM-00817-00217804-00217938 heard of a company in Southern FcTYYAzsrIM-00818-00217939-00218169 California called rap leaf social FcTYYAzsrIM-00819-00218169-00218483 network data mining organization and the FcTYYAzsrIM-00820-00218484-00218621 fact that we could send them information FcTYYAzsrIM-00821-00218623-00218759 from our voter file and then they would FcTYYAzsrIM-00822-00218760-00219092 spit back a spreadsheet with the FcTYYAzsrIM-00823-00219094-00219489 individuals who matched that we're on FcTYYAzsrIM-00824-00219490-00219656 had a public profile on a social network FcTYYAzsrIM-00825-00219657-00219915 but then the ability to extend that out FcTYYAzsrIM-00826-00219916-00220235 into that individuals group of friends FcTYYAzsrIM-00827-00220236-00220592 that had public profiles on networks for FcTYYAzsrIM-00828-00220594-00220962 targeting purposes was just a gold mine FcTYYAzsrIM-00829-00220963-00221081 and it was unbelievable what you could FcTYYAzsrIM-00830-00221082-00221455 actually get to communicate with FcTYYAzsrIM-00831-00221456-00221630 eventually know what magazines I FcTYYAzsrIM-00832-00221631-00221814 subscribe to I mean if you log into FcTYYAzsrIM-00833-00221815-00221988 voter vault you could see that I FcTYYAzsrIM-00834-00221989-00222233 subscribe to X Y & Z well that would FcTYYAzsrIM-00835-00222234-00222564 come from the point I was just making FcTYYAzsrIM-00836-00222565-00222723 was really more about the social network FcTYYAzsrIM-00837-00222723-00222942 right but I'm just seriously the ability FcTYYAzsrIM-00838-00222942-00223491 to find I mean the the there's just I FcTYYAzsrIM-00839-00223492-00223655 guess the peer-to-peer aspect of it but FcTYYAzsrIM-00840-00223656-00223803 the fact that you're able to figure out FcTYYAzsrIM-00841-00223804-00224001 precisely who someone is and who they FcTYYAzsrIM-00842-00224002-00224123 who they hang around with who they're FcTYYAzsrIM-00843-00224125-00224250 likely tagging around with who they're FcTYYAzsrIM-00844-00224251-00224435 likely to influence from multiple FcTYYAzsrIM-00845-00224436-00224583 sources whether you're mining from FcTYYAzsrIM-00846-00224584-00224805 social networks or acquiring data FcTYYAzsrIM-00847-00224806-00225282 through data resellers and and this FcTYYAzsrIM-00848-00225283-00225519 isn't unique to the Republicans or FcTYYAzsrIM-00849-00225519-00225702 Democrats having through catalyst it FcTYYAzsrIM-00850-00225703-00226128 does that privacy issue we live in such FcTYYAzsrIM-00851-00226129-00226635 an interesting world right now yeah you FcTYYAzsrIM-00852-00226636-00226944 know people thought Microsoft was bad FcTYYAzsrIM-00853-00226944-00227166 and now we're seeing what Google Earth FcTYYAzsrIM-00854-00227167-00227505 can achieve I don't know where the FcTYYAzsrIM-00855-00227506-00227694 privacy lines are anymore yeah that's FcTYYAzsrIM-00856-00227694-00227946 good well that's coming at this question FcTYYAzsrIM-00857-00227946-00228192 from another angle which constituencies FcTYYAzsrIM-00858-00228192-00228414 were influenced most directly by new FcTYYAzsrIM-00859-00228415-00228615 media clearly much of the media stories FcTYYAzsrIM-00860-00228616-00228746 been about young voters but I suspect FcTYYAzsrIM-00861-00228748-00228915 there are also other constituencies that FcTYYAzsrIM-00862-00228916-00229205 you that new media tactics have been FcTYYAzsrIM-00863-00229206-00229491 engaging apart from mapping all voters FcTYYAzsrIM-00864-00229492-00229680 or are there specific things for FcTYYAzsrIM-00865-00229681-00229854 specific groups that we can point to in FcTYYAzsrIM-00866-00229855-00230259 this cycle yeah a couple examples well I FcTYYAzsrIM-00867-00230260-00230396 and one thing I think we should FcTYYAzsrIM-00868-00230398-00230640 certainly stress is that you know new FcTYYAzsrIM-00869-00230641-00231102 media technology strengthened a FcTYYAzsrIM-00870-00231103-00231317 candidate who had a phenomenal and FcTYYAzsrIM-00871-00231319-00231579 consistent message I think sometimes we FcTYYAzsrIM-00872-00231580-00231765 give too much credit to the technology FcTYYAzsrIM-00873-00231766-00232005 and you know there's there's an overall FcTYYAzsrIM-00874-00232006-00232188 strategy that exists and then you figure FcTYYAzsrIM-00875-00232189-00232362 out the best tools to use you know to FcTYYAzsrIM-00876-00232363-00232598 really deploy to engage your audience FcTYYAzsrIM-00877-00232600-00232871 and so for example you know in the case FcTYYAzsrIM-00878-00232873-00233073 of one example with Obama this whole FcTYYAzsrIM-00879-00233073-00233246 idea of a new kind of governance new FcTYYAzsrIM-00880-00233248-00233448 kind of government a new kind of way of FcTYYAzsrIM-00881-00233448-00233796 listening to your audience so there was FcTYYAzsrIM-00882-00233796-00233984 some some particular legislation and FcTYYAzsrIM-00883-00233985-00234242 there was a FISA legislation speaking of FcTYYAzsrIM-00884-00234244-00234432 privacy issues that over the course of FcTYYAzsrIM-00885-00234433-00234617 the early part of the campaign he had a FcTYYAzsrIM-00886-00234619-00234944 pre had a position that pretty much FcTYYAzsrIM-00887-00234946-00235329 allied with a more left position was FcTYYAzsrIM-00888-00235330-00235529 anti-bush but after he won the FcTYYAzsrIM-00889-00235530-00235800 nomination he basically took a different FcTYYAzsrIM-00890-00235801-00235934 position on this particular piece of FcTYYAzsrIM-00891-00235935-00236007 legislation FcTYYAzsrIM-00892-00236008-00236391 and there was a revolt on my FcTYYAzsrIM-00893-00236392-00236640 barackobama.com literally thousands and FcTYYAzsrIM-00894-00236641-00236904 thousands of his supporters created a FcTYYAzsrIM-00895-00236905-00237142 group complaining FcTYYAzsrIM-00896-00237144-00237428 saying he'd he'd been a traitor he'd you FcTYYAzsrIM-00897-00237429-00237542 know now you've won the nomination FcTYYAzsrIM-00898-00237542-00237869 you've gone back on your word and to the FcTYYAzsrIM-00899-00237869-00238040 point where he had to go on to this FcTYYAzsrIM-00900-00238041-00238267 particular group and started blogging to FcTYYAzsrIM-00901-00238269-00238487 give his rationale as to why he had FcTYYAzsrIM-00902-00238488-00238691 changed his particular position on this FcTYYAzsrIM-00903-00238692-00238846 piece of legislation so this was a FcTYYAzsrIM-00904-00238848-00239012 particular constituency very concerned FcTYYAzsrIM-00905-00239013-00239248 around privacy issues had been in his FcTYYAzsrIM-00906-00239250-00239411 camp but really thought you know what FcTYYAzsrIM-00907-00239412-00239633 maybe we should because at that time FcTYYAzsrIM-00908-00239634-00239726 there was still some issues around FcTYYAzsrIM-00909-00239727-00239855 Hillary Clinton and maybe she wouldn't FcTYYAzsrIM-00910-00239856-00240227 pull out but I think it sent a huge FcTYYAzsrIM-00911-00240228-00240377 message that he basically said look FcTYYAzsrIM-00912-00240378-00240563 you're gonna have to agree to disagree FcTYYAzsrIM-00913-00240564-00240800 on this one but here's why I've changed FcTYYAzsrIM-00914-00240801-00241117 my position and I think that message FcTYYAzsrIM-00915-00241117-00241394 again both candidates could have used FcTYYAzsrIM-00916-00241394-00241565 this technology it's no big deal to FcTYYAzsrIM-00917-00241566-00241850 create now a community space but he used FcTYYAzsrIM-00918-00241851-00242006 it in a whole new way to actually FcTYYAzsrIM-00919-00242007-00242267 acknowledge a constituency that was very FcTYYAzsrIM-00920-00242267-00242402 important to him and had a lot of FcTYYAzsrIM-00921-00242403-00242756 influence over other constituencies but FcTYYAzsrIM-00922-00242757-00242912 again his use of the technology I FcTYYAzsrIM-00923-00242913-00243164 thought reinforced his overall message FcTYYAzsrIM-00924-00243165-00243356 that this is a new kind of governance a FcTYYAzsrIM-00925-00243357-00243557 new kind of way to bring you into the FcTYYAzsrIM-00926-00243558-00243769 political process and how I as a FcTYYAzsrIM-00927-00243771-00243950 candidate and ultimately as a president FcTYYAzsrIM-00928-00243951-00244130 and I really hope we we do get to the FcTYYAzsrIM-00929-00244131-00244334 point to talk about how do we think all FcTYYAzsrIM-00930-00244335-00244559 of this affects how he's going to govern FcTYYAzsrIM-00931-00244560-00244838 as president but again the technology FcTYYAzsrIM-00932-00244839-00245030 sometimes given too much credit how it FcTYYAzsrIM-00933-00245031-00245258 fits into an overall strategy and how it FcTYYAzsrIM-00934-00245259-00245548 reinforces the message that he sent I FcTYYAzsrIM-00935-00245550-00245684 think that's a that's a great example of FcTYYAzsrIM-00936-00245685-00245885 how a particular constituency I think FcTYYAzsrIM-00937-00245886-00246098 was strengthened at a point where really FcTYYAzsrIM-00938-00246098-00246292 could have gone south for Senator Obama FcTYYAzsrIM-00939-00246294-00246566 I agree with that wholeheartedly and FcTYYAzsrIM-00940-00246567-00246805 technology's a commodity and it's the FcTYYAzsrIM-00941-00246806-00247067 cachet and persona of the candidate FcTYYAzsrIM-00942-00247067-00247391 that's gonna drive the use of it FcTYYAzsrIM-00943-00247392-00247937 I was I was daunted by the amount of FcTYYAzsrIM-00944-00247938-00248144 user-generated content that was FcTYYAzsrIM-00945-00248144-00248606 generated in support of Obama and you FcTYYAzsrIM-00946-00248607-00248771 know you can rattle him off whether it FcTYYAzsrIM-00947-00248771-00248966 was will.i.am or Obama girl or so on so FcTYYAzsrIM-00948-00248967-00249203 on so on and you know the one piece of FcTYYAzsrIM-00949-00249204-00249521 that one piece of media that generated FcTYYAzsrIM-00950-00249521-00249754 the most buzz around the McCain campaign FcTYYAzsrIM-00951-00249755-00250067 or the McCain girls and that was FcTYYAzsrIM-00952-00250067-00250253 actually something done by The FcTYYAzsrIM-00953-00250254-00250463 Huffington Post that it took a couple of FcTYYAzsrIM-00954-00250464-00250534 days I think people FcTYYAzsrIM-00955-00250535-00250681 figure out that it was there was a FcTYYAzsrIM-00956-00250682-00251056 parody so you know I think that had a FcTYYAzsrIM-00957-00251057-00251219 lot to do with just the psyche of the FcTYYAzsrIM-00958-00251219-00251542 youth attraction because this is where FcTYYAzsrIM-00959-00251544-00251848 they're consuming their their media and FcTYYAzsrIM-00960-00251849-00252103 had such a presence there I want to talk FcTYYAzsrIM-00961-00252104-00252276 a little bit about the Obama campaign's FcTYYAzsrIM-00962-00252277-00252488 efforts in the african-american FcTYYAzsrIM-00963-00252489-00252805 community using both old media and new FcTYYAzsrIM-00964-00252806-00253027 media at various points in South FcTYYAzsrIM-00965-00253028-00253201 Carolina the campaign noticed that there FcTYYAzsrIM-00966-00253202-00253498 was a resistance among older African act FcTYYAzsrIM-00967-00253499-00253747 for African American women to Obama's FcTYYAzsrIM-00968-00253748-00253948 candidacy this was before I should say FcTYYAzsrIM-00969-00253949-00254410 Obama won one Iowa and that changed a FcTYYAzsrIM-00970-00254411-00254537 lot a lot of things but there was a FcTYYAzsrIM-00971-00254538-00254683 resistance and a lot of the resistance FcTYYAzsrIM-00972-00254684-00255116 was centered around the idea that that FcTYYAzsrIM-00973-00255117-00255338 he couldn't win and that the historical FcTYYAzsrIM-00974-00255339-00255539 moment just it just you know African FcTYYAzsrIM-00975-00255540-00255692 Americans had at times been so close to FcTYYAzsrIM-00976-00255692-00255839 the dream and had always been taken away FcTYYAzsrIM-00977-00255840-00256246 from them so the Obama campaign MS FcTYYAzsrIM-00978-00256248-00256405 Michelle Obama had done several very FcTYYAzsrIM-00979-00256406-00256621 successful speeches speaking directly to FcTYYAzsrIM-00980-00256623-00256967 this subject and in order to reach older FcTYYAzsrIM-00981-00256967-00257141 african-american women in South Carolina FcTYYAzsrIM-00982-00257142-00257339 the Obama campaign created VHS cassette FcTYYAzsrIM-00983-00257340-00257744 tapes and CDs and they went to what they FcTYYAzsrIM-00984-00257744-00257891 called the B & B circuit which is the FcTYYAzsrIM-00985-00257892-00258094 barber shop and beauty and beauty salon FcTYYAzsrIM-00986-00258096-00258290 circuit and literally they would have FcTYYAzsrIM-00987-00258291-00258437 volunteers go into barbershops and FcTYYAzsrIM-00988-00258438-00258716 beauty salons with with with DVD players FcTYYAzsrIM-00989-00258717-00258955 or miniature televisions and they played FcTYYAzsrIM-00990-00258956-00259219 the speech from from Michelle Obama and FcTYYAzsrIM-00991-00259221-00259391 they credit and they they did this a lot FcTYYAzsrIM-00992-00259392-00259640 and volunteers spent tens of thousands FcTYYAzsrIM-00993-00259641-00259867 of hours doing this and they credit they FcTYYAzsrIM-00994-00259869-00260117 credit this use of of old media in part FcTYYAzsrIM-00995-00260117-00260257 with helping to loosen some of that FcTYYAzsrIM-00996-00260258-00260509 resistance an example of how new media FcTYYAzsrIM-00997-00260510-00260722 the the Obama campaign used new media FcTYYAzsrIM-00998-00260723-00260944 one of the the goals of the Obama FcTYYAzsrIM-00999-00260946-00261192 campaign early on was to increase FcTYYAzsrIM-01000-00261194-00261430 African American early vote African FcTYYAzsrIM-01001-00261431-00261769 Americans historically have some FcTYYAzsrIM-01002-00261771-00262016 resistance in part because of the legacy FcTYYAzsrIM-01003-00262017-00262664 of of of a you know of shenanigans and FcTYYAzsrIM-01004-00262665-00262951 pull sites to early voting in person and FcTYYAzsrIM-01005-00262952-00263141 the Obama campaign was determined to FcTYYAzsrIM-01006-00263142-00263489 change this and and post-election exit FcTYYAzsrIM-01007-00263490-00263581 polls and services they were very FcTYYAzsrIM-01008-00263582-00263800 successful at this but one of the things FcTYYAzsrIM-01009-00263801-00263908 that they did was constant FcTYYAzsrIM-01010-00263909-00264154 was was do a lot of voter registration FcTYYAzsrIM-01011-00264155-00264400 and then as the early voting cycles FcTYYAzsrIM-01012-00264401-00264580 began they were able to monitor through FcTYYAzsrIM-01013-00264581-00264850 their their data web data warehouse FcTYYAzsrIM-01014-00264851-00265046 called catalyst because catalyst was FcTYYAzsrIM-01015-00265047-00265265 able to figure out from the Secretary of FcTYYAzsrIM-01016-00265266-00265432 State's office exactly who would request FcTYYAzsrIM-01017-00265433-00265865 it or who because you could once you FcTYYAzsrIM-01018-00265866-00266053 vote your name is has checked on the FcTYYAzsrIM-01019-00266054-00266237 voter rolls they could update that FcTYYAzsrIM-01020-00266238-00266374 nightly so they bomb the campaign could FcTYYAzsrIM-01021-00266375-00266521 see exactly who had voted early and who FcTYYAzsrIM-01022-00266522-00266792 hadn't and if you were one of their FcTYYAzsrIM-01023-00266793-00266929 targeted supporters and you hadn't voted FcTYYAzsrIM-01024-00266930-00267191 early you would get either an email or a FcTYYAzsrIM-01025-00267192-00267338 telephone call saying hey maybe today is FcTYYAzsrIM-01026-00267339-00267529 a good time to vote if you want our help FcTYYAzsrIM-01027-00267530-00267743 we can send a fan to help pick you up if FcTYYAzsrIM-01028-00267744-00267863 you didn't vote that day they would get FcTYYAzsrIM-01029-00267864-00267992 the information when catalyst and say FcTYYAzsrIM-01030-00267993-00268166 hey maybe tomorrow you can come you can FcTYYAzsrIM-01031-00268167-00268282 go do it FcTYYAzsrIM-01032-00268283-00268766 so again just just a an example of how FcTYYAzsrIM-01033-00268767-00269015 they were they were able to use both old FcTYYAzsrIM-01034-00269016-00269149 media technologies and new media FcTYYAzsrIM-01035-00269150-00269369 technologies to fulfill some of their FcTYYAzsrIM-01036-00269370-00269782 specific goals and it's those it's those FcTYYAzsrIM-01037-00269783-00270256 examples and internal learning that will FcTYYAzsrIM-01038-00270257-00270542 has forever changed politics and FcTYYAzsrIM-01039-00270543-00270829 campaigning you know I I'm the director FcTYYAzsrIM-01040-00270830-00271040 of what we refer to as the II campaign FcTYYAzsrIM-01041-00271041-00271241 division people used to mock me because FcTYYAzsrIM-01042-00271242-00271357 they say well it's the internet well FcTYYAzsrIM-01043-00271358-00271501 actually I now think each campaign is FcTYYAzsrIM-01044-00271502-00271694 more apropos because it's not the FcTYYAzsrIM-01045-00271695-00271870 internet its mobile and it's everything FcTYYAzsrIM-01046-00271871-00272224 else so maybe it's that that has come FcTYYAzsrIM-01047-00272225-00272401 but that the the point I wanted to make FcTYYAzsrIM-01048-00272402-00272617 is that you know I oversee a division FcTYYAzsrIM-01049-00272618-00272821 whose responsibility is telling about FcTYYAzsrIM-01050-00272822-00272974 technology but over the course of the FcTYYAzsrIM-01051-00272975-00273184 last year and a half every division FcTYYAzsrIM-01052-00273185-00273389 within the organization became dependent FcTYYAzsrIM-01053-00273390-00273655 on us in some way shape or form to begin FcTYYAzsrIM-01054-00273656-00274078 to evolve their methodology whether it FcTYYAzsrIM-01055-00274079-00274193 was the finance department of the FcTYYAzsrIM-01056-00274194-00274333 political department or the strategy FcTYYAzsrIM-01057-00274334-00274654 department I think that at this point FcTYYAzsrIM-01058-00274655-00274814 when resumes come in if it doesn't have FcTYYAzsrIM-01059-00274815-00275296 C++ or you know Java on it they may be a FcTYYAzsrIM-01060-00275297-00275570 political person but they're gonna need FcTYYAzsrIM-01061-00275571-00275768 to have those skill sets as well so FcTYYAzsrIM-01062-00275769-00276109 hybrid employ high hybrid skills gonna FcTYYAzsrIM-01063-00276110-00276392 be critical I think for any division FcTYYAzsrIM-01064-00276393-00276655 moving forward so so far we've been FcTYYAzsrIM-01065-00276656-00276863 focusing on the successes of digital FcTYYAzsrIM-01066-00276864-00277060 media but or there must also be FcTYYAzsrIM-01067-00277061-00277203 downsides FcTYYAzsrIM-01068-00277204-00277425 roll that new media played in selection FcTYYAzsrIM-01069-00277426-00277572 we already talked about smears whether FcTYYAzsrIM-01070-00277573-00277740 we're talking about the idea that Obama FcTYYAzsrIM-01071-00277741-00277917 is a Muslim or whether we're talking FcTYYAzsrIM-01072-00277918-00278130 about Sarah Palin banning Harry Potter FcTYYAzsrIM-01073-00278131-00278322 both of which are in case any when the FcTYYAzsrIM-01074-00278323-00278604 rooms confused both false statements FcTYYAzsrIM-01075-00278605-00278955 that circulated pretty freely this FcTYYAzsrIM-01076-00278956-00279264 notion of unreliable information is real FcTYYAzsrIM-01077-00279265-00279564 one I got an email from a multiple FcTYYAzsrIM-01078-00279565-00279756 copies of an email from a leading FcTYYAzsrIM-01079-00279757-00280026 intellectual media scholars about a FcTYYAzsrIM-01080-00280027-00280224 story about Republican kids questions FcTYYAzsrIM-01081-00280225-00280470 about Obama and it turns out if you FcTYYAzsrIM-01082-00280471-00280689 traced it back it went to a particular FcTYYAzsrIM-01083-00280690-00280857 church website that turned out to be a FcTYYAzsrIM-01084-00280858-00281241 parody of a church website so the joke FcTYYAzsrIM-01085-00281242-00281430 for the Republic the the joke of the FcTYYAzsrIM-01086-00281431-00281541 expensive Republican it was the FcTYYAzsrIM-01087-00281542-00281709 gullibility of Republicans the joke that FcTYYAzsrIM-01088-00281710-00281895 I got out of it was reading the FcTYYAzsrIM-01089-00281896-00282084 gullibility of my liberal friends who FcTYYAzsrIM-01090-00282085-00282369 also were incapable of seeing the FcTYYAzsrIM-01091-00282370-00282543 difference between a parody and a FcTYYAzsrIM-01092-00282544-00282768 reality so those seem to be emblematic FcTYYAzsrIM-01093-00282769-00283086 to me of still some issues we have as we FcTYYAzsrIM-01094-00283087-00283320 broaden who gets to circulate media are FcTYYAzsrIM-01095-00283321-00283587 there implications about the reliability FcTYYAzsrIM-01096-00283588-00283716 and Trust and are there other issues FcTYYAzsrIM-01097-00283717-00283986 people are arguing new media is making FcTYYAzsrIM-01098-00283987-00284154 us more partisan that the blogosphere FcTYYAzsrIM-01099-00284155-00284436 creates a more divided electorate with FcTYYAzsrIM-01100-00284437-00284661 very little chances of the kind of FcTYYAzsrIM-01101-00284662-00284892 purple state strategies which both Obama FcTYYAzsrIM-01102-00284893-00285195 and McCain began the campaign cycle with FcTYYAzsrIM-01103-00285196-00285453 to work so what do you guys see is the FcTYYAzsrIM-01104-00285454-00285798 limits or the the challenges we face as FcTYYAzsrIM-01105-00285799-00286029 we look at this new Mediascape in this FcTYYAzsrIM-01106-00286030-00286386 election cycle yeah I would say that FcTYYAzsrIM-01107-00286387-00286611 there are definitely huge risks I mean FcTYYAzsrIM-01108-00286612-00287061 it's you know my my mother-in-law I will FcTYYAzsrIM-01109-00287062-00287565 say you know her entire internet and FcTYYAzsrIM-01110-00287566-00288221 linear experience is essentially FoxNews FcTYYAzsrIM-01111-00288222-00288972 redstate.com Drudge Report and forget FcTYYAzsrIM-01112-00288973-00289224 this uh right wing bloggers like her her FcTYYAzsrIM-01113-00289225-00289662 world's view is very informed but FcTYYAzsrIM-01114-00289663-00289827 clearly from a particular perspective FcTYYAzsrIM-01115-00289828-00290106 and it's true I mean you can you can FcTYYAzsrIM-01116-00290107-00290403 operate and completely I think in Barack FcTYYAzsrIM-01117-00290404-00290516 Obama said one FcTYYAzsrIM-01118-00290517-00290741 look if I watch Fox News - I think I'm a FcTYYAzsrIM-01119-00290742-00290980 Muslim you know I mean this this you FcTYYAzsrIM-01120-00290981-00291276 know this this this if that's how you're FcTYYAzsrIM-01121-00291277-00291590 sort of consuming information so it's FcTYYAzsrIM-01122-00291591-00291802 possible I think ultimately we do have FcTYYAzsrIM-01123-00291803-00292073 to trust what I think overall did happen FcTYYAzsrIM-01124-00292074-00292354 which is that people diversified their FcTYYAzsrIM-01125-00292355-00292660 media sources and we're able to get to FcTYYAzsrIM-01126-00292661-00292777 the truth I mean yes there's more FcTYYAzsrIM-01127-00292778-00292913 misinformation out there but they're FcTYYAzsrIM-01128-00292914-00293227 more vetted resources that if someone FcTYYAzsrIM-01129-00293228-00293454 does take the time you can actually find FcTYYAzsrIM-01130-00293455-00293744 the correct story I mean in terms of in FcTYYAzsrIM-01131-00293745-00294031 terms of you know you know mistakes of FcTYYAzsrIM-01132-00294032-00294160 new media yes this whole idea of FcTYYAzsrIM-01133-00294161-00294290 misinformation but the biggest mistake FcTYYAzsrIM-01134-00294291-00294553 is not understanding how to make that FcTYYAzsrIM-01135-00294554-00294802 work for you again fight the smears was FcTYYAzsrIM-01136-00294803-00294962 powerful because he turned a huge FcTYYAzsrIM-01137-00294963-00295148 negative into an incredible positive FcTYYAzsrIM-01138-00295149-00295375 because again he gave every single FcTYYAzsrIM-01139-00295376-00295558 supporter a way to support the campaign FcTYYAzsrIM-01140-00295559-00295820 with Sarah Palin it was interesting when FcTYYAzsrIM-01141-00295821-00296229 she first came out these rumors just FcTYYAzsrIM-01142-00296230-00296615 instantaneously went across the internet FcTYYAzsrIM-01143-00296616-00296900 you know her her child or in fact you FcTYYAzsrIM-01144-00296901-00297058 know the her you know first was revealed FcTYYAzsrIM-01145-00297059-00297475 that her 17 year old was pregnant and FcTYYAzsrIM-01146-00297476-00297631 then that her baby FcTYYAzsrIM-01147-00297632-00297869 that she thought presumably it just had FcTYYAzsrIM-01148-00297870-00298073 was someone else's baby like these FcTYYAzsrIM-01149-00298074-00298374 rumors spread like wildfire and unlike FcTYYAzsrIM-01150-00298375-00298664 what senator Obama did with fight the FcTYYAzsrIM-01151-00298665-00298844 smears there actually wasn't really an FcTYYAzsrIM-01152-00298845-00299093 effective counter-attack to use it as an FcTYYAzsrIM-01153-00299094-00299302 opportunity to say look you know cuz FcTYYAzsrIM-01154-00299303-00299455 she's I think in her case she's played FcTYYAzsrIM-01155-00299456-00299656 the victim role very well and said look FcTYYAzsrIM-01156-00299657-00299789 we're being attacked we're being FcTYYAzsrIM-01157-00299790-00299972 vilified these this is the campaign of FcTYYAzsrIM-01158-00299973-00300140 these are the supporters of Barack Obama FcTYYAzsrIM-01159-00300141-00300283 who's supposed to be changing politics FcTYYAzsrIM-01160-00300284-00300475 look what he's done and I'm just you FcTYYAzsrIM-01161-00300476-00300628 know like you it could have been FcTYYAzsrIM-01162-00300629-00300835 actually an incredible opportunity for FcTYYAzsrIM-01163-00300836-00301057 the Republicans it's again change a FcTYYAzsrIM-01164-00301058-00301300 negative into a vast positive I mean FcTYYAzsrIM-01165-00301301-00301493 none of this stuff was inevitable it was FcTYYAzsrIM-01166-00301494-00301895 not inevitable that Obama achieved such FcTYYAzsrIM-01167-00301896-00302291 a massive level of support amongst young FcTYYAzsrIM-01168-00302292-00302452 people and and winning the election I I FcTYYAzsrIM-01169-00302453-00302666 think it again it's I think it's part of FcTYYAzsrIM-01170-00302667-00303052 an overall strategy in in 2000 fall of FcTYYAzsrIM-01171-00303053-00303378 2007 you know we did our first big event FcTYYAzsrIM-01172-00303379-00303634 with Senator Obama then about a month FcTYYAzsrIM-01173-00303635-00303794 later we did our first big event with FcTYYAzsrIM-01174-00303795-00303840 senator FcTYYAzsrIM-01175-00303841-00304077 we partnered with MySpace we put both FcTYYAzsrIM-01176-00304078-00304215 them on the channel with something FcTYYAzsrIM-01177-00304216-00304416 called a presidential dialogue where we FcTYYAzsrIM-01178-00304417-00304571 had literally millions of young people FcTYYAzsrIM-01179-00304572-00304845 watching online on-air all FcTYYAzsrIM-01180-00304846-00305082 simultaneously the ability to submit FcTYYAzsrIM-01181-00305083-00305376 questions real-time polling so as a FcTYYAzsrIM-01182-00305377-00305589 candidate answered a question the FcTYYAzsrIM-01183-00305590-00305790 audience was responding and saying you FcTYYAzsrIM-01184-00305791-00305961 know what we don't like that answer and FcTYYAzsrIM-01185-00305962-00306135 then that information fed back into the FcTYYAzsrIM-01186-00306136-00306471 questioning RIA and both candidates did FcTYYAzsrIM-01187-00306472-00306645 extremely well and we were really FcTYYAzsrIM-01188-00306646-00306813 excited because we thought we'd reach a FcTYYAzsrIM-01189-00306814-00306981 threshold where we'd really be able to FcTYYAzsrIM-01190-00306982-00307179 get both campaigns to have sort of an FcTYYAzsrIM-01191-00307180-00307443 ongoing relationship and we spend a lot FcTYYAzsrIM-01192-00307444-00307626 of time with Senator Obama getting their FcTYYAzsrIM-01193-00307627-00307803 profiles set up and all the things that FcTYYAzsrIM-01194-00307804-00307953 they were doing on Facebook and and FcTYYAzsrIM-01195-00307954-00308172 YouTube and we and it was somewhat FcTYYAzsrIM-01196-00308173-00308367 painful but we got Senator McCain to set FcTYYAzsrIM-01197-00308368-00308547 up their profile but it's amazing from FcTYYAzsrIM-01198-00308548-00308898 that point forward we revert I mean the FcTYYAzsrIM-01199-00308899-00309183 Obama camp would literally literally FcTYYAzsrIM-01200-00309184-00309432 updating their profile constantly new FcTYYAzsrIM-01201-00309433-00309669 information events coming up new FcTYYAzsrIM-01202-00309670-00309945 messages new policy papers constantly FcTYYAzsrIM-01203-00309946-00310158 reaching out to their audience giving FcTYYAzsrIM-01204-00310159-00310341 tools that their audience could use and FcTYYAzsrIM-01205-00310342-00310578 it was like extract you know pulling FcTYYAzsrIM-01206-00310579-00310812 teeth with the McCain campaign so again FcTYYAzsrIM-01207-00310813-00310989 it's the usage of the technology this FcTYYAzsrIM-01208-00310990-00311301 was not inevitable and I think there's FcTYYAzsrIM-01209-00311302-00311466 just sort of a presumption that Obama is FcTYYAzsrIM-01210-00311467-00311745 a younger guy representative of the the FcTYYAzsrIM-01211-00311746-00311943 demo it was it was just sort of in the FcTYYAzsrIM-01212-00311944-00312180 bag and it just didn't have to be that FcTYYAzsrIM-01213-00312181-00312374 way it I think a lot of it was just FcTYYAzsrIM-01214-00312375-00312654 strategic decision-making and lack of FcTYYAzsrIM-01215-00312655-00312885 decision-making defend Republicans a FcTYYAzsrIM-01216-00312886-00313161 little bit I do think I do think to some FcTYYAzsrIM-01217-00313162-00313434 extent it was oh no just just a little FcTYYAzsrIM-01218-00313435-00313746 bit I mean I do think to some extent it FcTYYAzsrIM-01219-00313747-00313952 wasn't inevitable but given the choices FcTYYAzsrIM-01220-00313953-00314226 it was it was fairly inevitable I mean FcTYYAzsrIM-01221-00314227-00314502 that John McCain represents a different FcTYYAzsrIM-01222-00314503-00314826 a different generation and conception of FcTYYAzsrIM-01223-00314827-00314994 America than where most young Americans FcTYYAzsrIM-01224-00314995-00315314 young Americans are so it doesn't FcTYYAzsrIM-01225-00315315-00315516 necessarily follow that the McCain FcTYYAzsrIM-01226-00315517-00315696 campaign should have spent the same FcTYYAzsrIM-01227-00315697-00315906 amount of effort on some of the stuff FcTYYAzsrIM-01228-00315907-00316068 but just to talk about the Palin example FcTYYAzsrIM-01229-00316069-00316317 and defend McCain campaign a bit McCain FcTYYAzsrIM-01230-00316318-00316532 campaign set up a huge team of FcTYYAzsrIM-01231-00316533-00316758 researchers and lawyers initially to try FcTYYAzsrIM-01232-00316759-00317089 and defend Sarah Palin from from FcTYYAzsrIM-01233-00317090-00317488 some of the on inaccurate information FcTYYAzsrIM-01234-00317489-00317749 that was was going about but part part FcTYYAzsrIM-01235-00317750-00317989 of the problem was that as someone who FcTYYAzsrIM-01236-00317990-00318115 was involved in the effort told me a FcTYYAzsrIM-01237-00318116-00318282 they couldn't keep track of what FcTYYAzsrIM-01238-00318283-00318388 everyone was saying because it was FcTYYAzsrIM-01239-00318389-00318568 coming fast and furious be there was FcTYYAzsrIM-01240-00318569-00318763 enough truth in a lot of what was what FcTYYAzsrIM-01241-00318764-00318964 they were saying that they couldn't they FcTYYAzsrIM-01242-00318965-00319189 had a hard time convincing people that FcTYYAzsrIM-01243-00319190-00319342 certain things were true and certain FcTYYAzsrIM-01244-00319343-00319479 things weren't the other thing is when FcTYYAzsrIM-01245-00319480-00319675 you're someone like Sarah Palin and have FcTYYAzsrIM-01246-00319676-00319837 never really been a national public FcTYYAzsrIM-01247-00319838-00320010 figure no matter how hard you try in FcTYYAzsrIM-01248-00320011-00320337 this age of of instantaneous information FcTYYAzsrIM-01249-00320338-00320644 and YouTube you cannot you cannot FcTYYAzsrIM-01250-00320645-00320821 competently vet someone who has not been FcTYYAzsrIM-01251-00320822-00321016 in the public eye and expect them from FcTYYAzsrIM-01252-00321017-00321199 from day one to have a record that you FcTYYAzsrIM-01253-00321200-00321325 can go back and say well she actually FcTYYAzsrIM-01254-00321326-00321592 never said this it's just it's it's FcTYYAzsrIM-01255-00321593-00321937 impossible the McCain campaign tried but FcTYYAzsrIM-01256-00321938-00322101 I don't think it could be done there was FcTYYAzsrIM-01257-00322102-00322267 just so much about her background that FcTYYAzsrIM-01258-00322268-00322377 it would take months and months and FcTYYAzsrIM-01259-00322378-00322554 months and dozens of researchers to FcTYYAzsrIM-01260-00322555-00322690 figure out everything she ever said and FcTYYAzsrIM-01261-00322691-00322857 did because again she hadn't been in the FcTYYAzsrIM-01262-00322858-00323034 public eye before and I will say the FcTYYAzsrIM-01263-00323035-00323212 fourth thing is that she didn't help men FcTYYAzsrIM-01264-00323213-00323403 matter she exaggerated the truth that a FcTYYAzsrIM-01265-00323404-00323539 lot of times there was things she told FcTYYAzsrIM-01266-00323540-00323802 John McCain in their early conversations FcTYYAzsrIM-01267-00323803-00324196 that turned out to have certain shades FcTYYAzsrIM-01268-00324197-00324405 of nuance to them like the fact that you FcTYYAzsrIM-01269-00324406-00324639 know she opposed the bridge to nowhere FcTYYAzsrIM-01270-00324640-00325051 sort of so it wasn't as if the FcTYYAzsrIM-01271-00325052-00325225 Republicans didn't try it's just that FcTYYAzsrIM-01272-00325226-00325495 and this may or not may or may not be FcTYYAzsrIM-01273-00325496-00325672 interpreted as a slap at Sarah Palin but FcTYYAzsrIM-01274-00325673-00325942 they really didn't have they they really FcTYYAzsrIM-01275-00325943-00326433 didn't have much to work with that FcTYYAzsrIM-01276-00326434-00326599 wasn't actually gonna no I'm gonna FcTYYAzsrIM-01277-00326600-00326923 switch gears completely of I mean we FcTYYAzsrIM-01278-00326924-00327091 could talk about Sarah Palin FcTYYAzsrIM-01279-00327092-00327279 there wasn't I'm just so what I'm FcTYYAzsrIM-01280-00327280-00327439 defending is I'm defending the fact that FcTYYAzsrIM-01281-00327440-00327576 that it wasn't if they didn't occur to FcTYYAzsrIM-01282-00327577-00327775 them that they had to quickly fight the FcTYYAzsrIM-01283-00327776-00328026 smears they just they tried and they FcTYYAzsrIM-01284-00328027-00328476 couldn't know I really do want to switch FcTYYAzsrIM-01285-00328477-00328795 gears okay um Henry asked about some of FcTYYAzsrIM-01286-00328796-00329038 the negatives from from the campaign I FcTYYAzsrIM-01287-00329039-00329290 want to address three of them and I FcTYYAzsrIM-01288-00329291-00329491 think the first to your point was from FcTYYAzsrIM-01289-00329492-00330072 resource allocation we were terribly FcTYYAzsrIM-01290-00330073-00330271 under-resourced relative to the Obama FcTYYAzsrIM-01291-00330272-00330359 campaign FcTYYAzsrIM-01292-00330360-00330641 in just pure personnel and I'd like to FcTYYAzsrIM-01293-00330642-00331025 sort of I am my lens from this is from FcTYYAzsrIM-01294-00331026-00331232 the National Committee not the campaign FcTYYAzsrIM-01295-00331233-00331403 so I wasn't privy to a lot of the FcTYYAzsrIM-01296-00331404-00331679 decisions that were made but I'll try to FcTYYAzsrIM-01297-00331680-00331948 armchair quarterback it a little bit FcTYYAzsrIM-01298-00331949-00332153 you'll remember during the primaries FcTYYAzsrIM-01299-00332154-00332327 when the campaign was essentially FcTYYAzsrIM-01300-00332328-00332504 bankrupt they almost turned off the FcTYYAzsrIM-01301-00332505-00332870 lights when when they had to start FcTYYAzsrIM-01302-00332871-00333071 making resource decisions I don't think FcTYYAzsrIM-01303-00333072-00333311 the internet was the priority when in my FcTYYAzsrIM-01304-00333312-00333449 vantage point is a technologist it FcTYYAzsrIM-01305-00333450-00333575 probably should have been because that's FcTYYAzsrIM-01306-00333576-00333739 where you can be most efficient with FcTYYAzsrIM-01307-00333740-00333998 little then there was also that FcTYYAzsrIM-01308-00333999-00334214 three-month window between the time the FcTYYAzsrIM-01309-00334215-00334343 McCain had effectively wrapped up the FcTYYAzsrIM-01310-00334344-00334550 nomination and Obama and Clinton were FcTYYAzsrIM-01311-00334551-00334880 duking it out and that was precious time FcTYYAzsrIM-01312-00334881-00335447 that I think once again more backend FcTYYAzsrIM-01313-00335448-00335549 work could have been done with FcTYYAzsrIM-01314-00335550-00335891 technology to better influence the the FcTYYAzsrIM-01315-00335892-00336299 race I can't stand scum I can't stand FcTYYAzsrIM-01316-00336300-00336665 squatters but we had to we had to spend FcTYYAzsrIM-01317-00336666-00336881 so much money around domain names this FcTYYAzsrIM-01318-00336882-00337109 cycle for various reasons fight the FcTYYAzsrIM-01319-00337110-00337406 smears as a standalone site was it was FcTYYAzsrIM-01320-00337407-00337568 interesting I want to give you one FcTYYAzsrIM-01321-00337569-00337849 example of what happened one day FcTYYAzsrIM-01322-00337850-00338081 perusing Obama's website and there was a FcTYYAzsrIM-01323-00338082-00338234 promotion on the home page for meet FcTYYAzsrIM-01324-00338235-00338585 Barack Obama and just for kicks I I went FcTYYAzsrIM-01325-00338586-00339056 and GoDaddy or somewhere and found that FcTYYAzsrIM-01326-00339057-00339335 meet Barack Obama calm was available and FcTYYAzsrIM-01327-00339336-00339527 I mean here's meet Barack Obama FcTYYAzsrIM-01328-00339528-00339677 promotion on his home page staring you FcTYYAzsrIM-01329-00339678-00339863 the face and they didn't acquire that FcTYYAzsrIM-01330-00339864-00340109 domain so we went and got it and Henry FcTYYAzsrIM-01331-00340110-00340238 if you want to go there you'll see what FcTYYAzsrIM-01332-00340239-00340790 we developed from it but it was a FcTYYAzsrIM-01333-00340791-00340996 repository of all of our micro sites FcTYYAzsrIM-01334-00340997-00341348 that we developed largely to generate FcTYYAzsrIM-01335-00341349-00341516 earned media because it was so hard this FcTYYAzsrIM-01336-00341517-00341726 cycle to break through the media cycle FcTYYAzsrIM-01337-00341727-00342311 that we created com meet meet Barack FcTYYAzsrIM-01338-00342312-00342863 Obama but people were you know people FcTYYAzsrIM-01339-00342864-00343046 are going people go into search engines FcTYYAzsrIM-01340-00343047-00343178 and search me for me Barack Obama FcTYYAzsrIM-01341-00343179-00343325 thinking maybe he's going to be in their FcTYYAzsrIM-01342-00343326-00343679 town and they stumble across through FcTYYAzsrIM-01343-00343680-00344066 are optimized site you know meet Barack FcTYYAzsrIM-01344-00344067-00344249 Obama and not until you get to the fine FcTYYAzsrIM-01345-00344250-00344402 print at the bottom of the page do you FcTYYAzsrIM-01346-00344403-00344534 see that this is a product of the FcTYYAzsrIM-01347-00344535-00344765 Republican National Committee but at its FcTYYAzsrIM-01348-00344766-00344963 surface it looks innocuous enough and in FcTYYAzsrIM-01349-00344964-00345167 fact Barak book looks like something one FcTYYAzsrIM-01350-00345168-00345308 might want to click on not knowing that FcTYYAzsrIM-01351-00345309-00345614 it's a hit piece and if you go to it FcTYYAzsrIM-01352-00345615-00345881 you'll see that it's a faux social FcTYYAzsrIM-01353-00345882-00346274 network parody of Facebook which our FcTYYAzsrIM-01354-00346275-00346649 opposition research team used to send us FcTYYAzsrIM-01355-00346650-00346940 content to basically display Obama's FcTYYAzsrIM-01356-00346941-00347108 network of friends and so you can go and FcTYYAzsrIM-01357-00347109-00347258 click on Valerie Jarrett and find out FcTYYAzsrIM-01358-00347259-00347423 you know what her relationship to Obama FcTYYAzsrIM-01359-00347424-00347603 is and who her friends are who their FcTYYAzsrIM-01360-00347604-00347804 friends are so um we created a Facebook FcTYYAzsrIM-01361-00347805-00348191 app for this and when we updated Barak FcTYYAzsrIM-01362-00348192-00348506 booked your Facebook page would update FcTYYAzsrIM-01363-00348507-00348710 that there was a so we were trying to FcTYYAzsrIM-01364-00348711-00348974 rent things but there are two other FcTYYAzsrIM-01365-00348975-00349144 things I want to discuss quickly one is FcTYYAzsrIM-01366-00349145-00349424 the unprecedent of money that was FcTYYAzsrIM-01367-00349425-00349718 generated online and III by no means say FcTYYAzsrIM-01368-00349719-00349934 this to be accusatory but I think both FcTYYAzsrIM-01369-00349935-00350117 parties need to take a look at how FcTYYAzsrIM-01370-00350118-00350336 moving forward online donations are FcTYYAzsrIM-01371-00350337-00350738 going to be utilized and the security FcTYYAzsrIM-01372-00350739-00351098 that revolves around it as an example FcTYYAzsrIM-01373-00351099-00351338 blue state digital who's responsible for FcTYYAzsrIM-01374-00351339-00351707 Obama's fundraising efforts consciously FcTYYAzsrIM-01375-00351708-00351923 chose to remove the three security code FcTYYAzsrIM-01376-00351924-00352073 requirement from an online donation FcTYYAzsrIM-01377-00352074-00352373 which facilitated the ability for gift FcTYYAzsrIM-01378-00352374-00352574 cards etcetera I mean you could create a FcTYYAzsrIM-01379-00352575-00352828 script that would essentially distribute FcTYYAzsrIM-01380-00352829-00353191 by mass by by spoofing your IP address FcTYYAzsrIM-01381-00353192-00353423 the resemblance of a donation coming FcTYYAzsrIM-01382-00353424-00353534 domestically when it could have come FcTYYAzsrIM-01383-00353535-00353879 from a foreign national and and and this FcTYYAzsrIM-01384-00353880-00354110 is not unique to the left or the right FcTYYAzsrIM-01385-00354111-00354344 is just and I'm not a fan of regulation FcTYYAzsrIM-01386-00354345-00354587 but I do think the FEC has an obligation FcTYYAzsrIM-01387-00354588-00354812 to start to look at technology in more FcTYYAzsrIM-01388-00354813-00355189 demonstrable way as to how campaigns are FcTYYAzsrIM-01389-00355190-00355499 receiving donations online and because I FcTYYAzsrIM-01390-00355500-00355802 do think that doodad pro just being one FcTYYAzsrIM-01391-00355803-00356003 example there were some negatives that FcTYYAzsrIM-01392-00356004-00356263 haven't really surfaced yet FcTYYAzsrIM-01393-00356264-00356510 lastly getting back to the resources and FcTYYAzsrIM-01394-00356511-00356627 the fact that I think there was a FcTYYAzsrIM-01395-00356628-00356939 hundred and thirty person strong team on FcTYYAzsrIM-01396-00356940-00357062 the Obama side compared FcTYYAzsrIM-01397-00357063-00357722 - four on my staff we were getting FcTYYAzsrIM-01398-00357723-00358088 comments from McCain supporters who were FcTYYAzsrIM-01399-00358089-00358354 saying that they were posting comments FcTYYAzsrIM-01400-00358355-00358541 on sites like The Washington Post FcTYYAzsrIM-01401-00358542-00358748 and they were being removed and they FcTYYAzsrIM-01402-00358749-00359147 couldn't figure out why and we surmised FcTYYAzsrIM-01403-00359148-00359374 that what was happening is that people FcTYYAzsrIM-01404-00359375-00359591 were going to pro McCain comments on FcTYYAzsrIM-01405-00359592-00359860 BBS's and hitting that that comment was FcTYYAzsrIM-01406-00359861-00360097 abusive and after enough people did it FcTYYAzsrIM-01407-00360098-00360365 those comments were removed so there was FcTYYAzsrIM-01408-00360366-00360535 really nothing negative or disparaging FcTYYAzsrIM-01409-00360536-00360727 being said about the opposition FcTYYAzsrIM-01410-00360728-00360968 it was just using technology smartly to FcTYYAzsrIM-01411-00360969-00361448 counter the the other campaign and you FcTYYAzsrIM-01412-00361449-00361849 know well done I guess I say one more FcTYYAzsrIM-01413-00361850-00362182 thing about the narratives most of the FcTYYAzsrIM-01414-00362183-00362492 the readers and I because I did a I did FcTYYAzsrIM-01415-00362493-00362659 a poll PIPP so people may be self FcTYYAzsrIM-01416-00362660-00363082 responding to the poll but and there are FcTYYAzsrIM-01417-00363083-00363202 there are some people in the audience FcTYYAzsrIM-01418-00363203-00363413 who I know read the site in command and FcTYYAzsrIM-01419-00363414-00363829 and were active commenters or people FcTYYAzsrIM-01420-00363830-00364115 emailed me but most of my readers that FcTYYAzsrIM-01421-00364116-00364405 80% of them were Barack Obama supporters FcTYYAzsrIM-01422-00364406-00364664 and that's disheartening to me because I FcTYYAzsrIM-01423-00364665-00364898 wasn't writing a blog for Barack Obama FcTYYAzsrIM-01424-00364899-00365083 supporters I was trying to write a FcTYYAzsrIM-01425-00365084-00365509 report a blog on politics that that you FcTYYAzsrIM-01426-00365510-00365929 know played it as fairly close to what I FcTYYAzsrIM-01427-00365930-00366170 saw the truth as is possible in giving FcTYYAzsrIM-01428-00366171-00366590 no quarter to either campaign but when FcTYYAzsrIM-01429-00366591-00366976 you look at the universe of of websites FcTYYAzsrIM-01430-00366977-00367249 there is a significant partisan FcTYYAzsrIM-01431-00367250-00367459 clustering effect that goes on even FcTYYAzsrIM-01432-00367460-00367595 sites that aren't partisan and the FcTYYAzsrIM-01433-00367596-00367841 Atlantic has a series of vloggers I FcTYYAzsrIM-01434-00367842-00367988 would say we have two and a half FcTYYAzsrIM-01435-00367989-00368123 bloggers that are identifiably FcTYYAzsrIM-01436-00368124-00368257 conservative and I'm including Andrew FcTYYAzsrIM-01437-00368258-00368468 Sullivan as a half because he's a bit of FcTYYAzsrIM-01438-00368469-00368658 a hybrid but Ross Douthat who is FcTYYAzsrIM-01439-00368659-00368942 undeniably a wonder brilliant smart FcTYYAzsrIM-01440-00368943-00369109 conservative Megan McArdle who is also FcTYYAzsrIM-01441-00369110-00369400 very conservative but the majority and FcTYYAzsrIM-01442-00369401-00369610 two and a half out of five so that would FcTYYAzsrIM-01443-00369611-00369917 be roughly 50/50 but the majority of FcTYYAzsrIM-01444-00369918-00370193 people who read the site or who read all FcTYYAzsrIM-01445-00370194-00370374 of our blogs including Andrews including FcTYYAzsrIM-01446-00370375-00370632 nice watch a walk Ross's were to the FcTYYAzsrIM-01447-00370633-00370782 left of center because people tagged the FcTYYAzsrIM-01448-00370783-00370977 Atlantic as being part of the old media FcTYYAzsrIM-01449-00370978-00371229 the establishment media this the liberal FcTYYAzsrIM-01450-00371230-00371592 media online and there were very very FcTYYAzsrIM-01451-00371593-00371904 few sites that managed and there been FcTYYAzsrIM-01452-00371905-00372123 some studies done about this but very FcTYYAzsrIM-01453-00372124-00372408 few websites that managed to straddle FcTYYAzsrIM-01454-00372409-00372711 both left-right and then the you know FcTYYAzsrIM-01455-00372712-00372924 the small but I think fairly active FcTYYAzsrIM-01456-00372925-00373080 group in the center who was just hungry FcTYYAzsrIM-01457-00373081-00373341 for information and I don't know how to FcTYYAzsrIM-01458-00373342-00373533 solve that but I think that's a problem FcTYYAzsrIM-01459-00373534-00373653 because I would have loved to have more FcTYYAzsrIM-01460-00373654-00373943 Republican and conservative readers FcTYYAzsrIM-01461-00373944-00374148 alright we're gonna open up the FcTYYAzsrIM-01462-00374149-00374313 questions in just a minute so people FcTYYAzsrIM-01463-00374314-00374478 want to start lining up at the mics but FcTYYAzsrIM-01464-00374479-00374625 I'm gonna ask another question they're a FcTYYAzsrIM-01465-00374626-00374820 panelist while people are beginning to FcTYYAzsrIM-01466-00374821-00375090 formulate questions and get in line so FcTYYAzsrIM-01467-00375091-00375231 the question is about governance we've FcTYYAzsrIM-01468-00375232-00375477 just come through this campaign we now FcTYYAzsrIM-01469-00375478-00375660 have president elect the question is FcTYYAzsrIM-01470-00375661-00375855 what are our visions of how new media FcTYYAzsrIM-01471-00375856-00376398 can be used for governance people use a FcTYYAzsrIM-01472-00376399-00376644 language now permanent campaign so one FcTYYAzsrIM-01473-00376645-00376800 notion is that the good stuff that's FcTYYAzsrIM-01474-00376801-00376968 gone in the campaign simply continues FcTYYAzsrIM-01475-00376969-00377193 and that it takes on a different role FcTYYAzsrIM-01476-00377194-00377451 I've just pulled up change.gov which is FcTYYAzsrIM-01477-00377452-00377649 the site that the Obama people put up FcTYYAzsrIM-01478-00377650-00377931 there very morning after the election FcTYYAzsrIM-01479-00377932-00378180 results it's already have office of the FcTYYAzsrIM-01480-00378181-00378585 president-elect up up there so what are FcTYYAzsrIM-01481-00378586-00378702 you seeing and what are your thoughts FcTYYAzsrIM-01482-00378703-00378867 about what's gonna happen now for both FcTYYAzsrIM-01483-00378868-00379101 parties as we go into the next four FcTYYAzsrIM-01484-00379102-00379686 years if you wouldn't mind I want to FcTYYAzsrIM-01485-00379687-00379935 show you a project we created from GOP FcTYYAzsrIM-01486-00379936-00380481 calm the platform process where the FcTYYAzsrIM-01487-00380482-00380880 party sets basically its objectives for FcTYYAzsrIM-01488-00380881-00381246 the next four years has traditionally FcTYYAzsrIM-01489-00381247-00381753 been a very offline process you drive to FcTYYAzsrIM-01490-00381754-00381951 a hearing you hope that you get to the FcTYYAzsrIM-01491-00381952-00382113 microphone to present your thoughts to FcTYYAzsrIM-01492-00382114-00382350 the platform committee meetings are held FcTYYAzsrIM-01493-00382351-00382662 regionally and so you hope you get to FcTYYAzsrIM-01494-00382663-00382824 the microphone you hope that they listen FcTYYAzsrIM-01495-00382825-00382941 to what you say you you hope that it FcTYYAzsrIM-01496-00382942-00383179 enters the public record and FcTYYAzsrIM-01497-00383180-00383341 you know maybe less than one-tenth of FcTYYAzsrIM-01498-00383342-00383680 one percent of the nation gets to FcTYYAzsrIM-01499-00383681-00384496 participate so so for the first time in FcTYYAzsrIM-01500-00384497-00384643 the nation's history we wanted to change FcTYYAzsrIM-01501-00384644-00384811 the way in which the party platform FcTYYAzsrIM-01502-00384812-00385252 process evolved and if you scroll down FcTYYAzsrIM-01503-00385253-00386053 and just so we we opened up the process FcTYYAzsrIM-01504-00386054-00386302 for the Republican Party's 2008 platform FcTYYAzsrIM-01505-00386303-00386569 and invited any American regardless of FcTYYAzsrIM-01506-00386570-00386818 party affiliation to come in and tell us FcTYYAzsrIM-01507-00386819-00386974 what they thought the Republican Party FcTYYAzsrIM-01508-00386975-00387313 should represent the next four years you FcTYYAzsrIM-01509-00387314-00387526 know over half a million people access FcTYYAzsrIM-01510-00387527-00387808 the site over 20,000 submissions FcTYYAzsrIM-01511-00387809-00388177 both text or video we've incorporated FcTYYAzsrIM-01512-00388178-00388483 user submissions into the party platform FcTYYAzsrIM-01513-00388484-00388912 and I hope that very similar to change FcTYYAzsrIM-01514-00388913-00390205 gov this is the way we we evolve you'll FcTYYAzsrIM-01515-00390206-00390450 see on the right-hand column where FcTYYAzsrIM-01516-00390451-00390646 Americans haven't have incorporated FcTYYAzsrIM-01517-00390647-00390796 their thoughts on what the party FcTYYAzsrIM-01518-00390797-00390949 platform should be this guy by the way FcTYYAzsrIM-01519-00390950-00391153 the one in the middle I don't know why FcTYYAzsrIM-01520-00391154-00391303 he did this but he was submitting FcTYYAzsrIM-01521-00391304-00391417 entries all the time but he always did FcTYYAzsrIM-01522-00391418-00391639 it from his car at night from his webcam FcTYYAzsrIM-01523-00391640-00391912 it didn't make any sense to me but he FcTYYAzsrIM-01524-00391913-00392245 submitted thoughts on every plank of the FcTYYAzsrIM-01525-00392246-00392491 party platform but but change gov I FcTYYAzsrIM-01526-00392492-00392707 think is a very similar effort in in FcTYYAzsrIM-01527-00392708-00393064 that we got to begin to I can use phrase FcTYYAzsrIM-01528-00393065-00393253 open source government whatever that FcTYYAzsrIM-01529-00393254-00393442 means really begin to facilitate this FcTYYAzsrIM-01530-00393443-00393625 this dialogue where Americans can truly FcTYYAzsrIM-01531-00393626-00394096 contribute to government via via the web FcTYYAzsrIM-01532-00394097-00394297 and both the platform project and FcTYYAzsrIM-01533-00394298-00394522 change.gov I think are the first efforts FcTYYAzsrIM-01534-00394523-00394914 towards that there's a trade-off between FcTYYAzsrIM-01535-00394915-00395218 transparency at times and efficiency FcTYYAzsrIM-01536-00395219-00395494 that the Obama transition is working out FcTYYAzsrIM-01537-00395495-00395782 right now I would hope just for the sake FcTYYAzsrIM-01538-00395783-00395950 of accountability that they are on the FcTYYAzsrIM-01539-00395951-00396190 side of of transparency but it is very FcTYYAzsrIM-01540-00396191-00396437 easy for a White House staff to FcTYYAzsrIM-01541-00396438-00396596 well we promised that all the meetings FcTYYAzsrIM-01542-00396597-00396710 would be open and we'd say the FcTYYAzsrIM-01543-00396711-00396902 participants but we didn't mean this set FcTYYAzsrIM-01544-00396903-00397157 or we can't give you a look at what the FcTYYAzsrIM-01545-00397158-00397274 Treasury Department how it's actually FcTYYAzsrIM-01546-00397275-00397427 allocating its funding even though we FcTYYAzsrIM-01547-00397428-00397589 said we would put all the budget online FcTYYAzsrIM-01548-00397590-00397724 well we're not going to put all the FcTYYAzsrIM-01549-00397725-00397856 defense budget online obviously there FcTYYAzsrIM-01550-00397857-00397970 are some things you don't put online but FcTYYAzsrIM-01551-00397971-00398075 we're going to put not going to put the FcTYYAzsrIM-01552-00398076-00398273 entire department defense there are lots FcTYYAzsrIM-01553-00398274-00398575 of choices that the Obama administration FcTYYAzsrIM-01554-00398576-00398863 will be forced to make when it comes to FcTYYAzsrIM-01555-00398864-00399113 transparency of information which i FcTYYAzsrIM-01556-00399114-00399260 think is going to be one of the key ways FcTYYAzsrIM-01557-00399261-00399560 in which people using new media hold the FcTYYAzsrIM-01558-00399561-00399806 administration accountable and I would FcTYYAzsrIM-01559-00399807-00399965 just hope that they again err on the FcTYYAzsrIM-01560-00399966-00400208 side of transparency over efficiency FcTYYAzsrIM-01561-00400209-00400406 because when they have the power it is FcTYYAzsrIM-01562-00400407-00400592 going to be they're gonna be very very FcTYYAzsrIM-01563-00400593-00400886 very tempted to close things off to keep FcTYYAzsrIM-01564-00400887-00401144 deliberations private and to back away FcTYYAzsrIM-01565-00401145-00401312 from from some of Obama's fairly FcTYYAzsrIM-01566-00401313-00401660 ambitious campaign promises yeah I would FcTYYAzsrIM-01567-00401661-00401792 just say I totally agree with that I FcTYYAzsrIM-01568-00401793-00401960 think in fact it's probably the greatest FcTYYAzsrIM-01569-00401961-00402275 risk that the millions of people that FcTYYAzsrIM-01570-00402276-00402533 supported Obama and honestly even I FcTYYAzsrIM-01571-00402534-00402680 think John McCain there's just a FcTYYAzsrIM-01572-00402681-00402992 different expectation of the poppy that FcTYYAzsrIM-01573-00402993-00403295 the populace is involvement in FcTYYAzsrIM-01574-00403296-00403493 governance it's just we've crossed a FcTYYAzsrIM-01575-00403494-00403772 line and and we can't unscramble the egg FcTYYAzsrIM-01576-00403773-00404048 you know and I actually thought that you FcTYYAzsrIM-01577-00404049-00404234 were gonna show Republican for a reason FcTYYAzsrIM-01578-00404235-00404381 because I saw that yesterday and I FcTYYAzsrIM-01579-00404382-00404495 thought that was a powerful sight FcTYYAzsrIM-01580-00404496-00404852 because not only is you know obviously FcTYYAzsrIM-01581-00404853-00405053 Obama's change gov and if you go to the FcTYYAzsrIM-01582-00405054-00405329 site he's actually asking Americans to FcTYYAzsrIM-01583-00405330-00405512 submit their ideas and in fact even the FcTYYAzsrIM-01584-00405513-00405725 night his the night of November 4th in FcTYYAzsrIM-01585-00405726-00406121 the in the interim period before he was FcTYYAzsrIM-01586-00406122-00406265 announced as the winner as FcTYYAzsrIM-01587-00406266-00406526 president-elect and before he spoke at FcTYYAzsrIM-01588-00406527-00406781 Grant Grant Park there was a massive FcTYYAzsrIM-01589-00406782-00406976 email sent out saying thank you this is FcTYYAzsrIM-01590-00406977-00407177 all about you I'm going you know FcTYYAzsrIM-01591-00407178-00407404 there'll be some new information that FcTYYAzsrIM-01592-00407405-00407641 I'll share shortly but he FcTYYAzsrIM-01593-00407642-00407873 instantaneously reinforced the message FcTYYAzsrIM-01594-00407874-00408083 that look you're still part of this FcTYYAzsrIM-01595-00408084-00408439 process but Republican oh I'm sorry it's FcTYYAzsrIM-01596-00408440-00408713 right but so clearly on the governance FcTYYAzsrIM-01597-00408714-00408872 side I think Obama is going to want to FcTYYAzsrIM-01598-00408873-00409010 continue he's got to live up to these FcTYYAzsrIM-01599-00409011-00409262 expectations now but I think Republican FcTYYAzsrIM-01600-00409263-00409616 for a reason is a good site also and FcTYYAzsrIM-01601-00409617-00409802 hopefully it's showing from a Republican FcTYYAzsrIM-01602-00409803-00410006 perspective that there's some rebuilding FcTYYAzsrIM-01603-00410007-00410192 that needs to be done or you know some FcTYYAzsrIM-01604-00410193-00410342 leaders within the Republican party FcTYYAzsrIM-01605-00410343-00410588 party think so and so I think this is a FcTYYAzsrIM-01606-00410589-00410827 great message as well so it's inviting FcTYYAzsrIM-01607-00410828-00411035 Republicans to say look we just lost a FcTYYAzsrIM-01608-00411035-00411218 huge election but you know there's still FcTYYAzsrIM-01609-00411218-00411460 core principles you know and it's not FcTYYAzsrIM-01610-00411462-00411659 just from top down but you as an FcTYYAzsrIM-01611-00411660-00411847 individual why don't you re are tick you FcTYYAzsrIM-01612-00411849-00412070 late why is it that you're Republican FcTYYAzsrIM-01613-00412071-00412264 what are those principles that we stand FcTYYAzsrIM-01614-00412266-00412568 for and again start to invite collective FcTYYAzsrIM-01615-00412568-00412760 intelligence to help shape the party FcTYYAzsrIM-01616-00412760-00412970 from the bottom up so I actually think FcTYYAzsrIM-01617-00412971-00413399 this is a great sign from the Republican FcTYYAzsrIM-01618-00413400-00413612 Party that you know that there's an FcTYYAzsrIM-01619-00413613-00413849 openness to listening to people as FcTYYAzsrIM-01620-00413850-00414118 opposed to just you know waiting for FcTYYAzsrIM-01621-00414120-00414329 five governors who are in Florida you FcTYYAzsrIM-01622-00414330-00414503 know today to suddenly you know come out FcTYYAzsrIM-01623-00414504-00414772 with the new you know the the new word FcTYYAzsrIM-01624-00414774-00415047 of what the Republican Party will be I FcTYYAzsrIM-01625-00415049-00415262 appreciate what my nickname for the site FcTYYAzsrIM-01626-00415263-00415607 is eat humble pie calm but you can get FcTYYAzsrIM-01627-00415608-00415766 to it at Republican for a reason calm FcTYYAzsrIM-01628-00415767-00415910 and anybody can come in and tell us what FcTYYAzsrIM-01629-00415910-00416012 they think the Republican Party should FcTYYAzsrIM-01630-00416013-00417022 be doing to uh you know cure itself sure FcTYYAzsrIM-01631-00417024-00417176 I'm Charlie de tar him and the speech FcTYYAzsrIM-01632-00417177-00417310 and mobility group here at the Media Lab FcTYYAzsrIM-01633-00417312-00417551 I was wondering if you could comment on FcTYYAzsrIM-01634-00417552-00417847 the role in new media technologies and FcTYYAzsrIM-01635-00417849-00418039 potentially elevating the discourse in FcTYYAzsrIM-01636-00418041-00418314 presidential elections I've noticed that FcTYYAzsrIM-01637-00418316-00418589 most of the emails the online videos the FcTYYAzsrIM-01638-00418589-00418697 sort of stuff that I saw in this FcTYYAzsrIM-01639-00418697-00418954 election still were just tribalistic FcTYYAzsrIM-01640-00418955-00419297 soundbite heavy lacking in nuance on any FcTYYAzsrIM-01641-00419297-00419555 discussion on issues or policies or the FcTYYAzsrIM-01642-00419556-00419738 actual direction government might have FcTYYAzsrIM-01643-00419739-00419966 in a more long-term way and can you FcTYYAzsrIM-01644-00419967-00420110 comment on the way new media FcTYYAzsrIM-01645-00420110-00420397 technologies is there any change any FcTYYAzsrIM-01646-00420399-00420943 difference thanks Lois Adama was John FcTYYAzsrIM-01647-00420945-00421100 McCain's quote each time he was asked FcTYYAzsrIM-01648-00421101-00421438 about negative politics what do you say FcTYYAzsrIM-01649-00421439-00421802 right yeah there's always the excuse as FcTYYAzsrIM-01650-00421803-00421964 to why he would then launch into these FcTYYAzsrIM-01651-00421964-00422195 attacks you know I I you know I don't I FcTYYAzsrIM-01652-00422196-00422642 don't think new media is immune to what FcTYYAzsrIM-01653-00422643-00422885 is just politics and when you got folks FcTYYAzsrIM-01654-00422885-00423029 competing when the stakes are incredibly FcTYYAzsrIM-01655-00423030-00423164 high FcTYYAzsrIM-01656-00423164-00423284 and by the way you know negative FcTYYAzsrIM-01657-00423285-00423434 campaigning works I mean there was a FcTYYAzsrIM-01658-00423435-00423832 period of time and again you know in FcTYYAzsrIM-01659-00423833-00424079 mid-august you know before the FcTYYAzsrIM-01660-00424080-00424229 convention and then right after before FcTYYAzsrIM-01661-00424230-00424367 the Democratic convention then right FcTYYAzsrIM-01662-00424368-00424703 after the Republican convention there FcTYYAzsrIM-01663-00424704-00425035 was a time when Obama McCain I think was FcTYYAzsrIM-01664-00425037-00425308 very effective in really going after FcTYYAzsrIM-01665-00425309-00425510 Obama's strengths or I was right after FcTYYAzsrIM-01666-00425510-00425743 Obama had come back from his European FcTYYAzsrIM-01667-00425745-00425924 trip where you know two hundred thousand FcTYYAzsrIM-01668-00425925-00426206 folks in Germany you know loved across FcTYYAzsrIM-01669-00426207-00426322 the world and he was the greatest FcTYYAzsrIM-01670-00426324-00426701 celebrity and the McCain camp it FcTYYAzsrIM-01671-00426702-00426857 inspires and Paris Hilton enemies of FcTYYAzsrIM-01672-00426858-00427114 course to start to bring down this guy FcTYYAzsrIM-01673-00427116-00427250 from this mantle it's all negative FcTYYAzsrIM-01674-00427251-00427457 messaging but it was effective and then FcTYYAzsrIM-01675-00427458-00427856 the airs the association with Bill Ayers FcTYYAzsrIM-01676-00427857-00428051 like that stuff started to work and so FcTYYAzsrIM-01677-00428052-00428387 it's it's hard you know III don't know FcTYYAzsrIM-01678-00428388-00428546 if new media can solve a problem in fact FcTYYAzsrIM-01679-00428547-00428846 I'm sure it can't it just allows more FcTYYAzsrIM-01680-00428847-00428993 outlets to get it out but you know FcTYYAzsrIM-01681-00428993-00429188 politics is you know presidential FcTYYAzsrIM-01682-00429189-00429416 politics is tough business you know I FcTYYAzsrIM-01683-00429417-00429662 don't think we can assume that it will FcTYYAzsrIM-01684-00429663-00429842 necessarily raise the level of the FcTYYAzsrIM-01685-00429843-00430175 discourse one example comes to mind FcTYYAzsrIM-01686-00430176-00430583 though about how the Obama campaign was FcTYYAzsrIM-01687-00430584-00430991 able to use new media to inject nuance FcTYYAzsrIM-01688-00430992-00431246 in that debate remember the gas tax FcTYYAzsrIM-01689-00431247-00431602 holiday that Hillary Clinton wanted and FcTYYAzsrIM-01690-00431603-00432212 the the the it's a gimmick but in order FcTYYAzsrIM-01691-00432213-00432422 to in order to think about the gas tax FcTYYAzsrIM-01692-00432422-00432560 holiday is a gimmick you actually have FcTYYAzsrIM-01693-00432560-00432692 to think through the arguments for it FcTYYAzsrIM-01694-00432693-00432910 because it's not it's not inherently FcTYYAzsrIM-01695-00432912-00433147 clear why getting more money back from FcTYYAzsrIM-01696-00433149-00433268 the government would simply be a gimmick FcTYYAzsrIM-01697-00433268-00433667 when it comes to the gas tax but it was FcTYYAzsrIM-01698-00433668-00433814 it was therefore just as someone who FcTYYAzsrIM-01699-00433814-00433972 likes intellectual honesty and debates FcTYYAzsrIM-01700-00433974-00434135 very heartwarming to read the the FcTYYAzsrIM-01701-00434135-00434429 primary exit polls in Indiana where half FcTYYAzsrIM-01702-00434430-00434729 of the voters believed that the gas tax FcTYYAzsrIM-01703-00434730-00435050 idea was a gimmick and in fact the polls FcTYYAzsrIM-01704-00435051-00435206 are replicated across other states and FcTYYAzsrIM-01705-00435207-00435455 even at some point some majority of FcTYYAzsrIM-01706-00435456-00435620 Americans thought it was gimmick and the FcTYYAzsrIM-01707-00435621-00435770 Obama campaign spent a lot of time FcTYYAzsrIM-01708-00435771-00436022 through their new media technologies and FcTYYAzsrIM-01709-00436022-00436262 emails explaining to people why the gas FcTYYAzsrIM-01710-00436263-00436537 tax holiday was was FcTYYAzsrIM-01711-00436538-00436852 gimmick and you know at least what that FcTYYAzsrIM-01712-00436853-00437145 shows me is that you you don't FcTYYAzsrIM-01713-00437146-00437412 necessarily have to you you don't new FcTYYAzsrIM-01714-00437413-00437629 media technologies and distribution FcTYYAzsrIM-01715-00437630-00437743 channels aren't just limited to very FcTYYAzsrIM-01716-00437743-00438097 simple messages that you know that can FcTYYAzsrIM-01717-00438097-00438264 touch heartstrings or whatever you can FcTYYAzsrIM-01718-00438265-00438577 actually make intellectual arguments and FcTYYAzsrIM-01719-00438578-00438693 it was good to see that I mean there FcTYYAzsrIM-01720-00438694-00438837 weren't too many examples of that FcTYYAzsrIM-01721-00438838-00439062 because it's much easier and and FcTYYAzsrIM-01722-00439063-00439345 presumably more effective to you know I FcTYYAzsrIM-01723-00439346-00439495 mean I think one of them you know the FcTYYAzsrIM-01724-00439496-00439635 Republican National Committee I think FcTYYAzsrIM-01725-00439637-00439957 made a very very funny video about about FcTYYAzsrIM-01726-00439958-00440266 Obama's celebrity I forgot what I forgot FcTYYAzsrIM-01727-00440267-00440370 what it was called but it was it was FcTYYAzsrIM-01728-00440371-00440547 very humorous at least in my opinion FcTYYAzsrIM-01729-00440548-00440983 it's easier to go to this simple to the FcTYYAzsrIM-01730-00440984-00441274 non nuanced but at times or at least at FcTYYAzsrIM-01731-00441275-00441505 one time it was used effectively to go FcTYYAzsrIM-01732-00441506-00441718 toward the nuance so you know I think if FcTYYAzsrIM-01733-00441718-00442218 everyone tries maybe I actually think FcTYYAzsrIM-01734-00442219-00442410 new media exacerbates the problem of FcTYYAzsrIM-01735-00442412-00442716 negative campaigning and whether it's FcTYYAzsrIM-01736-00442717-00443077 the campaign controlling it or not the FcTYYAzsrIM-01737-00443078-00443284 fact that the community at large can now FcTYYAzsrIM-01738-00443285-00443431 play a part in it and it's such a FcTYYAzsrIM-01739-00443432-00443643 decentralized way where the campaign has FcTYYAzsrIM-01740-00443644-00444043 no influence over it it just makes it FcTYYAzsrIM-01741-00444043-00444499 all the more worse two things well I FcTYYAzsrIM-01742-00444500-00444912 guess it in that vein reverent Reverend FcTYYAzsrIM-01743-00444913-00445108 Wright's name was off limits I'm Senator FcTYYAzsrIM-01744-00445109-00445372 McCain said just you know no way it's FcTYYAzsrIM-01745-00445372-00445593 not coming up and it never did from the FcTYYAzsrIM-01746-00445594-00445920 campaign but you you found it everywhere FcTYYAzsrIM-01747-00445921-00446224 in the blogosphere and the campaign FcTYYAzsrIM-01748-00446225-00446374 distance itself from that and when those FcTYYAzsrIM-01749-00446375-00446482 comments were posted on the bulletin FcTYYAzsrIM-01750-00446483-00446622 boards you know they were they were FcTYYAzsrIM-01751-00446623-00446962 removed it was just a taboo subject but FcTYYAzsrIM-01752-00446963-00447162 one interesting eye one interesting FcTYYAzsrIM-01753-00447163-00447522 thing I saw during the campaign was my FcTYYAzsrIM-01754-00447523-00447985 friends Facebook profiles all the FcTYYAzsrIM-01755-00447985-00448282 majority of them started to have middle FcTYYAzsrIM-01756-00448283-00448756 names and I started to see you know Joe FcTYYAzsrIM-01757-00448757-00449083 Hussein Smith on Facebook and I I'd FcTYYAzsrIM-01758-00449084-00449295 click on it I've got I've got a vast FcTYYAzsrIM-01759-00449296-00449452 group of Facebook friends I don't know a FcTYYAzsrIM-01760-00449453-00449800 lot of them but so I'd click on I'd FcTYYAzsrIM-01761-00449801-00449953 click on it FcTYYAzsrIM-01762-00449954-00450085 and I'd say all right this is a FcTYYAzsrIM-01763-00450085-00450292 Republican trying to be cute when in FcTYYAzsrIM-01764-00450293-00450508 fact it was Democrats who were just FcTYYAzsrIM-01765-00450509-00450763 mocking the fact that Obama's middle FcTYYAzsrIM-01766-00450764-00451033 name was being mocked and I I'd love to FcTYYAzsrIM-01767-00451034-00451147 know from Facebook how many people FcTYYAzsrIM-01768-00451147-00451402 actually had Hussein in their name I FcTYYAzsrIM-01769-00451403-00451567 mean it must have been in the millions FcTYYAzsrIM-01770-00451568-00451714 but it was just an interesting you so FcTYYAzsrIM-01771-00451714-00451879 it's like a cool thing for Democrats to FcTYYAzsrIM-01772-00451880-00452062 do on Facebook but it's spread by yeah FcTYYAzsrIM-01773-00452063-00452212 it's spread it was pretty wild to watch FcTYYAzsrIM-01774-00452213-00452395 we had at the center for future Civic FcTYYAzsrIM-01775-00452396-00452557 media yesterday a speaker who's been FcTYYAzsrIM-01776-00452558-00452737 scanning the blogosphere for keywords FcTYYAzsrIM-01777-00452738-00452922 and found that they were overwhelmingly FcTYYAzsrIM-01778-00452924-00453163 more references to Hussein on liberal FcTYYAzsrIM-01779-00453164-00453409 blogs than on conservative blogs so that FcTYYAzsrIM-01780-00453410-00453508 in fact liberals spent more time FcTYYAzsrIM-01781-00453509-00453763 responding to that that criticism or FcTYYAzsrIM-01782-00453764-00454024 that tactic than the tactic itself was FcTYYAzsrIM-01783-00454025-00454708 played out over here hi I'm gossamer FcTYYAzsrIM-01784-00454709-00454893 North student northeastern actually and FcTYYAzsrIM-01785-00454895-00455035 a couple of my friends that have who FcTYYAzsrIM-01786-00455035-00455227 saying middle name on their Facebook in FcTYYAzsrIM-01787-00455228-00455431 the past couple weeks and what I'm FcTYYAzsrIM-01788-00455432-00455716 wondering is I saw I'm not too sure what FcTYYAzsrIM-01789-00455717-00455896 this was but I think I read that the FcTYYAzsrIM-01790-00455897-00456004 Obama campaign or the Obama FcTYYAzsrIM-01791-00456005-00456175 administration might be using a website FcTYYAzsrIM-01792-00456176-00456382 of its own to as a channel of FcTYYAzsrIM-01793-00456383-00456585 information going directly to the public FcTYYAzsrIM-01794-00456587-00456727 which would bypass any kind of media FcTYYAzsrIM-01795-00456728-00456988 outlet and how so that's if you have any FcTYYAzsrIM-01796-00456989-00457087 thoughts on that and how do you think FcTYYAzsrIM-01797-00457088-00457237 the new administration might use new FcTYYAzsrIM-01798-00457238-00457591 media in discovering in general well FcTYYAzsrIM-01799-00457592-00457708 they've said several things one of which FcTYYAzsrIM-01800-00457709-00458130 is they're going to Obama wants to FcTYYAzsrIM-01801-00458131-00458518 incorporate a daily weekly YouTube FcTYYAzsrIM-01802-00458518-00458713 address as opposed to a you know a FcTYYAzsrIM-01803-00458714-00458914 weekly radio address radio radio being FcTYYAzsrIM-01804-00458914-00459243 the traditional format for it the White FcTYYAzsrIM-01805-00459245-00459391 House will probably establish some sort FcTYYAzsrIM-01806-00459392-00459672 of a blog whether that will include FcTYYAzsrIM-01807-00459674-00459910 comments is TBD because there's a lot of FcTYYAzsrIM-01808-00459910-00460168 stuff you have to think through the FcTYYAzsrIM-01809-00460168-00460381 Obama one of the things that he has said FcTYYAzsrIM-01810-00460382-00460651 he would do is and again this will come FcTYYAzsrIM-01811-00460652-00460785 at the expense of the efficiency of FcTYYAzsrIM-01812-00460787-00461032 these but he wants to open all FcTYYAzsrIM-01813-00461033-00461257 regulatory hearings put them on a FcTYYAzsrIM-01814-00461258-00461476 centralized website and allow people to FcTYYAzsrIM-01815-00461477-00461662 comment on regulatory hearings in real FcTYYAzsrIM-01816-00461663-00461847 time and force the people who are FcTYYAzsrIM-01817-00461849-00462016 administering the regulations to read FcTYYAzsrIM-01818-00462017-00462247 all the comments again there's a FcTYYAzsrIM-01819-00462247-00462397 difference with the efficiency and FcTYYAzsrIM-01820-00462397-00462589 transparency you can see how that you FcTYYAzsrIM-01821-00462589-00463231 know the the trade-off there and one of FcTYYAzsrIM-01822-00463232-00463327 the one of the other things that there FcTYYAzsrIM-01823-00463328-00463347 can FcTYYAzsrIM-01824-00463348-00463681 littering is in something that the the FcTYYAzsrIM-01825-00463682-00463875 government of the UK has already FcTYYAzsrIM-01826-00463876-00464058 instituted which is sort of a I think FcTYYAzsrIM-01827-00464059-00464475 it's petitions UK gov where citizens can FcTYYAzsrIM-01828-00464476-00464731 launch their own petition drives that in FcTYYAzsrIM-01829-00464732-00465004 theory someone at 10 Downing Street will FcTYYAzsrIM-01830-00465005-00465156 read every single petition they can be FcTYYAzsrIM-01831-00465157-00465402 either jocular or they can be serious FcTYYAzsrIM-01832-00465403-00465672 you haven't heard too much about it in FcTYYAzsrIM-01833-00465673-00465850 the UK in part because they haven't FcTYYAzsrIM-01834-00465851-00466056 quite figured out or they're not quite FcTYYAzsrIM-01835-00466057-00466225 prepared to accept the ramifications of FcTYYAzsrIM-01836-00466226-00466450 allowing a citizen petition process but FcTYYAzsrIM-01837-00466451-00466725 I know that is something the Obama folks FcTYYAzsrIM-01838-00466726-00466975 are are considering as well whether they FcTYYAzsrIM-01839-00466976-00467104 do any of this I'm you know I'm not sure FcTYYAzsrIM-01840-00467105-00467383 but but he talked about some of this in FcTYYAzsrIM-01841-00467384-00467637 in in during the campaign and and and I FcTYYAzsrIM-01842-00467638-00467785 do know that that they're thinking about FcTYYAzsrIM-01843-00467785-00468118 these things right now and you know one FcTYYAzsrIM-01844-00468118-00468237 of the one of the things we're hearing FcTYYAzsrIM-01845-00468238-00468475 and I think it would be just tremendous FcTYYAzsrIM-01846-00468476-00468781 is that they're considering creating a FcTYYAzsrIM-01847-00468782-00469110 chief technology officer cabinet level FcTYYAzsrIM-01848-00469111-00469510 position which and so you know that I FcTYYAzsrIM-01849-00469510-00469785 think is transformative and I think they FcTYYAzsrIM-01850-00469786-00469912 were talking to Eric Schmidt of Google FcTYYAzsrIM-01851-00469913-00470191 too and I guess he's publicly denied but FcTYYAzsrIM-01852-00470192-00470689 maybe he moaned who knows but it's hard FcTYYAzsrIM-01853-00470689-00471016 to say no so that I think would be FcTYYAzsrIM-01854-00471017-00471202 extraordinary because it would it would FcTYYAzsrIM-01855-00471203-00471616 essentially you know make every area of FcTYYAzsrIM-01856-00471617-00471918 government put under the microscope of FcTYYAzsrIM-01857-00471919-00472102 how can technology be utilized to make FcTYYAzsrIM-01858-00472103-00472252 it more efficient right so whether it's FcTYYAzsrIM-01859-00472253-00472389 education health care all these FcTYYAzsrIM-01860-00472390-00472656 different ideas make technology at the FcTYYAzsrIM-01861-00472657-00472827 center and I think I'm really hoping FcTYYAzsrIM-01862-00472828-00473056 that that's actually a big sort of FcTYYAzsrIM-01863-00473057-00473316 single huge message that you know FcTYYAzsrIM-01864-00473317-00473418 because the cabinet you know FcTYYAzsrIM-01865-00473419-00473604 historically you know that's where the FcTYYAzsrIM-01866-00473605-00473718 that's where the heavy hitters are FcTYYAzsrIM-01867-00473719-00473914 that's who's has access to the president FcTYYAzsrIM-01868-00473914-00474168 and a and a CTO who has accountability FcTYYAzsrIM-01869-00474169-00474325 across all of these different divisions FcTYYAzsrIM-01870-00474326-00477225 I think really would be huge FcTYYAzsrIM-01871-00477226-00479679 but if they are other people who are FcTYYAzsrIM-01872-00479680-00481741 encouraged so to repeat the question for FcTYYAzsrIM-01873-00481742-00481975 the podcast audience and others the FcTYYAzsrIM-01874-00481976-00482122 question had to do with we've sort of FcTYYAzsrIM-01875-00482123-00482320 had a lot of discussion around new media FcTYYAzsrIM-01876-00482321-00482584 and young voters water if we move toward FcTYYAzsrIM-01877-00482585-00482770 new media what are the implication for FcTYYAzsrIM-01878-00482771-00482929 older voters who often have lagged FcTYYAzsrIM-01879-00482930-00483106 behind in their embrace of new FcTYYAzsrIM-01880-00483107-00483769 technologies is that as well I mean it's FcTYYAzsrIM-01881-00483770-00483979 a geographic split urban areas tend to FcTYYAzsrIM-01882-00483980-00484222 be more wired or wireless than rural FcTYYAzsrIM-01883-00484223-00484447 areas both candidates well it doesn't FcTYYAzsrIM-01884-00484448-00484564 matter what John McCain promised now FcTYYAzsrIM-01885-00484565-00484966 because he's not Obama where I be is big FcTYYAzsrIM-01886-00484967-00485160 of right that's he's bigoted right FcTYYAzsrIM-01887-00485161-00485338 elevations they both promised FcTYYAzsrIM-01888-00485339-00485712 significant expansions significant FcTYYAzsrIM-01889-00485713-00486109 expenditures on broadband sir broadband FcTYYAzsrIM-01890-00486110-00486319 services for rural areas but there's FcTYYAzsrIM-01891-00486320-00486511 there has to be a revolution in FcTYYAzsrIM-01892-00486512-00486829 technology Padma I confess I'm not an FcTYYAzsrIM-01893-00486830-00486928 expert here and there probably people in FcTYYAzsrIM-01894-00486929-00487036 the audience who know much more about it FcTYYAzsrIM-01895-00487037-00487186 than I do but there has to be an FcTYYAzsrIM-01896-00487187-00487339 enormous regulatory revolution and FcTYYAzsrIM-01897-00487340-00487582 Technology Policy in order for there to FcTYYAzsrIM-01898-00487583-00487801 be truly Universal broadband in this FcTYYAzsrIM-01899-00487802-00487942 country and however not so I think part FcTYYAzsrIM-01900-00487943-00488182 of it is I think part of part of that's FcTYYAzsrIM-01901-00488183-00488327 the obstacle but FcTYYAzsrIM-01902-00488328-00488452 seemed to be something that this FcTYYAzsrIM-01903-00488453-00488699 administration is aware of I don't know FcTYYAzsrIM-01904-00488700-00488816 if that's probably not a good enough FcTYYAzsrIM-01905-00488817-00489016 answer for you and it is a problem FcTYYAzsrIM-01906-00489017-00489658 certainly but you know I think I'm not FcTYYAzsrIM-01907-00489659-00489883 confident that well maybe I am Kaiba FcTYYAzsrIM-01908-00489884-00490076 just the this is still an area where FcTYYAzsrIM-01909-00490077-00490312 again we're we're technology companies FcTYYAzsrIM-01910-00490313-00490541 and tell telecoms and spend enormous FcTYYAzsrIM-01911-00490542-00490793 amounts to lobby and there's the every FcTYYAzsrIM-01912-00490793-00490910 couple years in Congress there are these FcTYYAzsrIM-01913-00490910-00491227 extremely complicated telecom bills that FcTYYAzsrIM-01914-00491228-00491383 push things in one direction or another FcTYYAzsrIM-01915-00491384-00491714 and I guess it'll just take some FcTYYAzsrIM-01916-00491714-00491951 something to dislodge that in order for FcTYYAzsrIM-01917-00491952-00492164 us to get to the point where we're again FcTYYAzsrIM-01918-00492164-00492325 we could truly have some sort of a FcTYYAzsrIM-01919-00492326-00492620 universal broadband network across the FcTYYAzsrIM-01920-00492621-00492733 country which I do think is kind of the FcTYYAzsrIM-01921-00492734-00493010 only way to facilitate access for FcTYYAzsrIM-01922-00493010-00495554 everyone harry shearer has a wonderful FcTYYAzsrIM-01923-00495555-00495745 radio show where he has a segment where FcTYYAzsrIM-01924-00495746-00496054 irregularly pokes holes and the idea FcTYYAzsrIM-01925-00496055-00496220 that this digital transition is going to FcTYYAzsrIM-01926-00496221-00496466 be smooth the one in you know in FcTYYAzsrIM-01927-00496467-00496712 February when analog television no FcTYYAzsrIM-01928-00496713-00496931 longer works and the government will say FcTYYAzsrIM-01929-00496932-00497068 well we spend a lot of money trying to FcTYYAzsrIM-01930-00497069-00497272 educate people but if you look at the FcTYYAzsrIM-01931-00497273-00497420 response rates of people who we know FcTYYAzsrIM-01932-00497421-00497656 have analog TV sets are actually sending FcTYYAzsrIM-01933-00497657-00497893 in for coupons to buy digital digital FcTYYAzsrIM-01934-00497894-00498185 conversion boxes it's it's fairly low so FcTYYAzsrIM-01935-00498185-00498431 I don't I don't have any answers I just FcTYYAzsrIM-01936-00498432-00498577 I agree that it's complete a problem FcTYYAzsrIM-01937-00498578-00498895 yeah you know circle which is the group FcTYYAzsrIM-01938-00498896-00499195 that hmm measures youth voting just FcTYYAzsrIM-01939-00499196-00499475 released the fact that in this 2008 FcTYYAzsrIM-01940-00499476-00499727 election the number of 18 to 29 year FcTYYAzsrIM-01941-00499728-00499939 olds that voted for the first time in at FcTYYAzsrIM-01942-00499940-00500135 least two decades was greater than the FcTYYAzsrIM-01943-00500135-00500393 number of people 65 and over and it may FcTYYAzsrIM-01944-00500393-00500537 actually be the greatest number ever but FcTYYAzsrIM-01945-00500538-00500812 there's they're looking at they're FcTYYAzsrIM-01946-00500813-00501035 looking at years prior to two decades FcTYYAzsrIM-01947-00501035-00501277 but you know you're you're right I mean FcTYYAzsrIM-01948-00501278-00501425 in some ways it's similar to the FcTYYAzsrIM-01949-00501426-00501662 challenge of when we had all sorts of FcTYYAzsrIM-01950-00501663-00501824 say shion's about the digital divide you FcTYYAzsrIM-01951-00501825-00501985 know you had whole groups of low-income FcTYYAzsrIM-01952-00501987-00502220 communities that were not part of the FcTYYAzsrIM-01953-00502221-00502393 process and so how could we expect them FcTYYAzsrIM-01954-00502394-00502660 to engage and this is why I think for me FcTYYAzsrIM-01955-00502662-00502916 it comes back to a CTO type position or FcTYYAzsrIM-01956-00502917-00503135 getting you know 100 100 percent FcTYYAzsrIM-01957-00503135-00503393 broadband penetration we actually need a FcTYYAzsrIM-01958-00503393-00503684 presidential team that recognizes the FcTYYAzsrIM-01959-00503685-00503933 importance of enabling technologies for FcTYYAzsrIM-01960-00503934-00504200 everyone not just for you know those FcTYYAzsrIM-01961-00504201-00504401 that can you know afford broadband but I FcTYYAzsrIM-01962-00504402-00504554 think it does come down to that but FcTYYAzsrIM-01963-00504555-00504758 you're right I mean you know young FcTYYAzsrIM-01964-00504759-00504977 people again partly because of the new FcTYYAzsrIM-01965-00504978-00505135 technologies part of the campaign part FcTYYAzsrIM-01966-00505137-00505457 of the strategy they are utilizing and FcTYYAzsrIM-01967-00505458-00505595 taking advantage of all this stuff in FcTYYAzsrIM-01968-00505596-00505832 much bigger numbers than older folk and FcTYYAzsrIM-01969-00505833-00505987 we can only hope that this FcTYYAzsrIM-01970-00505988-00506197 administration recognizes that it's not FcTYYAzsrIM-01971-00506198-00506426 good to leave now that segment behind FcTYYAzsrIM-01972-00506427-00506666 where you know we've left other segments FcTYYAzsrIM-01973-00506667-00508502 behind to you know to ill effect over FcTYYAzsrIM-01974-00508503-00508804 the coming years from a whoa FcTYYAzsrIM-01975-00508805-00509177 from a sociological standpoint there's FcTYYAzsrIM-01976-00509178-00509458 actually a really large audience of FcTYYAzsrIM-01977-00509459-00509839 older web users but where they're FcTYYAzsrIM-01978-00509840-00510158 falling behind technologically is in the FcTYYAzsrIM-01979-00510159-00510587 advancement of you know 2.0 and I mean FcTYYAzsrIM-01980-00510588-00510806 look at yawns which is nowhere on the FcTYYAzsrIM-01981-00510807-00511087 map from network standpoint relative you FcTYYAzsrIM-01982-00511088-00511297 know to Facebook but this was a point I FcTYYAzsrIM-01983-00511298-00511553 made at the outset of the campaign which FcTYYAzsrIM-01984-00511554-00511928 was we're so enamoured now with the chic FcTYYAzsrIM-01985-00511929-00512228 sites Twitter etc that we've forgotten FcTYYAzsrIM-01986-00512229-00512414 about the millions of users that are on FcTYYAzsrIM-01987-00512414-00513260 the portals AOL MSN Yahoo even and from FcTYYAzsrIM-01988-00513260-00513395 my experience they're you know they're FcTYYAzsrIM-01989-00513396-00513643 in the older users are there in droves FcTYYAzsrIM-01990-00513644-00513878 but they're not where you'd think they FcTYYAzsrIM-01991-00513879-00514184 are they're on the gaming sites which on FcTYYAzsrIM-01992-00514185-00514349 face value seems contradictory but FcTYYAzsrIM-01993-00514350-00514529 they're playing backgammon and cribbage FcTYYAzsrIM-01994-00514530-00514957 on MSN games and FcTYYAzsrIM-01995-00514958-00515116 trying to find Bill Gates and Warren FcTYYAzsrIM-01996-00515117-00515416 Buffett I guess but it's I think it's FcTYYAzsrIM-01997-00515417-00515608 just the adoption of the evolution of FcTYYAzsrIM-01998-00515609-00515866 technology but I'd argue that there's FcTYYAzsrIM-01999-00515867-00516046 actually a pretty sizable older audience FcTYYAzsrIM-02000-00516047-00516396 online FcTYYAzsrIM-02001-00516397-00516688 hello I'm Madeline Ellis I'm a graduate FcTYYAzsrIM-02002-00516689-00517072 student here at CMS my question forgive FcTYYAzsrIM-02003-00517072-00517312 me if it's a little cynical that often FcTYYAzsrIM-02004-00517313-00517585 seems to be my role here but um we've FcTYYAzsrIM-02005-00517585-00517906 been talking a lot about user Act active FcTYYAzsrIM-02006-00517907-00518266 users engaged users and I'm just FcTYYAzsrIM-02007-00518267-00518542 wondering if we really are to take what FcTYYAzsrIM-02008-00518543-00518752 has happened as a universally rosy FcTYYAzsrIM-02009-00518753-00519168 picture or if more it on the surface it FcTYYAzsrIM-02010-00519170-00519424 seems like users are driving the FcTYYAzsrIM-02011-00519425-00519618 conversation but there really is a lot FcTYYAzsrIM-02012-00519620-00519841 of thought taken to manipulating the FcTYYAzsrIM-02013-00519842-00520102 conversation from the campaign's and FcTYYAzsrIM-02014-00520103-00520417 from media outlets and sort of as as FcTYYAzsrIM-02015-00520418-00520696 insiders if you could give us your view FcTYYAzsrIM-02016-00520697-00520927 on on that negotiation that's happening FcTYYAzsrIM-02017-00520928-00521166 what would be an example do you think of FcTYYAzsrIM-02018-00521167-00521809 manipulation that you've seen no if I FcTYYAzsrIM-02019-00521810-00522049 can think of anything at the exact FcTYYAzsrIM-02020-00522050-00522337 moment but give me a minute I don't know FcTYYAzsrIM-02021-00522338-00523984 if my question is vaguely mentioned Joe FcTYYAzsrIM-02022-00523985-00524197 the Plumber McCain campaign attempted to FcTYYAzsrIM-02023-00524197-00524350 make Joe the Plumber sort of a universal FcTYYAzsrIM-02024-00524351-00524560 stand-in for everyman there was a web FcTYYAzsrIM-02025-00524561-00524800 campaign you know show us how your Joe FcTYYAzsrIM-02026-00524801-00524965 the Plumber remember the commercial I'm FcTYYAzsrIM-02027-00524966-00525103 Joe the Plumber I'm Joe the Plumber I'm FcTYYAzsrIM-02028-00525104-00525343 Joe the Plumber there was certainly a FcTYYAzsrIM-02029-00525344-00525639 lot of attention paid to Joe the Plumber FcTYYAzsrIM-02030-00525640-00525988 but and and the McCain campaign did its FcTYYAzsrIM-02031-00525989-00526138 best to drive that and the media paid a FcTYYAzsrIM-02032-00526139-00526366 lot of attention to it and the American FcTYYAzsrIM-02033-00526367-00526726 people didn't seem to so it might be an FcTYYAzsrIM-02034-00526727-00527005 example of how the media I I acknowledge FcTYYAzsrIM-02035-00527006-00527197 I mean this again was because both FcTYYAzsrIM-02036-00527198-00527341 candidates instantly mentioned the guy's FcTYYAzsrIM-02037-00527342-00527530 name what 40 times total in the debate FcTYYAzsrIM-02038-00527531-00527764 in some sense the story led the media to FcTYYAzsrIM-02039-00527765-00528082 say who is this Joe the Plumber guy but FcTYYAzsrIM-02040-00528083-00528229 the effect that Joe the Plumber had in FcTYYAzsrIM-02041-00528230-00528310 the election FcTYYAzsrIM-02042-00528311-00528497 unfortunately for the McCain campaign FcTYYAzsrIM-02043-00528498-00528778 was was fairly minimal so maybe there's FcTYYAzsrIM-02044-00528779-00529056 an example of how in this fragmented age FcTYYAzsrIM-02045-00529057-00529216 the media can try to set an agenda or FcTYYAzsrIM-02046-00529217-00529393 collectively not try because there's no FcTYYAzsrIM-02047-00529394-00529597 I can tell if there is a conference call FcTYYAzsrIM-02048-00529598-00529843 I am NOT on it and I want to be on it FcTYYAzsrIM-02049-00529844-00530022 because you know I work in these areas FcTYYAzsrIM-02050-00530023-00530283 but you know just the collective FcTYYAzsrIM-02051-00530284-00530587 mentality the media certainly focused on FcTYYAzsrIM-02052-00530588-00530839 Joe the Plumber and then on you know the FcTYYAzsrIM-02053-00530840-00530958 fact that he wasn't a licensed on all FcTYYAzsrIM-02054-00530959-00531222 this stuff didn't didn't seem to matter FcTYYAzsrIM-02055-00531223-00531427 that much but maybe one example of how FcTYYAzsrIM-02056-00531428-00531664 the media did didn't the old media did FcTYYAzsrIM-02057-00531665-00531949 matter was in in helping people or FcTYYAzsrIM-02058-00531950-00532210 helping people come to a different FcTYYAzsrIM-02059-00532211-00532420 perception of Sarah Palin than they had FcTYYAzsrIM-02060-00532421-00532704 initially you know the the succession of FcTYYAzsrIM-02061-00532705-00532933 interviews that she did I mean III again FcTYYAzsrIM-02062-00532934-00533097 I'm a consultant for CBS News but the FcTYYAzsrIM-02063-00533098-00533412 way that CBS News extent Katie Couric FcTYYAzsrIM-02064-00533413-00533616 had about 45 minutes with Sarah Palin FcTYYAzsrIM-02065-00533617-00533904 over the course of two days and CBS FcTYYAzsrIM-02066-00533905-00534100 broke the interview into three or four FcTYYAzsrIM-02067-00534101-00534270 minute chunks and ran it over a week and FcTYYAzsrIM-02068-00534271-00534472 it did seem like every single day there FcTYYAzsrIM-02069-00534473-00534687 was an additional question now all the FcTYYAzsrIM-02070-00534688-00534910 questions I should say I think are FcTYYAzsrIM-02071-00534911-00535168 entirely defensible from the standpoint FcTYYAzsrIM-02072-00535169-00535420 of asking them but every day it seemed FcTYYAzsrIM-02073-00535421-00535572 to be a more outrageous question that FcTYYAzsrIM-02074-00535573-00535828 she didn't that she didn't get and I FcTYYAzsrIM-02075-00535829-00535981 have heard the argument that that was FcTYYAzsrIM-02076-00535982-00536168 CBS trying to manipulate people's FcTYYAzsrIM-02077-00536169-00536431 impression of Sarah Palin I disagree FcTYYAzsrIM-02078-00536432-00536556 with that but that might be something FcTYYAzsrIM-02079-00536557-00536772 you know what you're something to the FcTYYAzsrIM-02080-00536773-00536935 degree that what your well your FcTYYAzsrIM-02081-00536936-00537406 discussion people with in campaigns who FcTYYAzsrIM-02082-00537407-00537691 go on and pretend that they're users in FcTYYAzsrIM-02083-00537692-00538066 order to drive the conversation or we FcTYYAzsrIM-02084-00538067-00538497 actually reference once people taking FcTYYAzsrIM-02085-00538498-00538903 down comments and enabling people to FcTYYAzsrIM-02086-00538904-00539133 cancel comments I guess sort of I think FcTYYAzsrIM-02087-00539134-00539281 that stuff happens on on the on the FcTYYAzsrIM-02088-00539282-00539481 extreme margins of noting that people FcTYYAzsrIM-02089-00539482-00539608 are extreme it happens on the FcTYYAzsrIM-02090-00539609-00539851 real margins of their to be the people I FcTYYAzsrIM-02091-00539852-00540068 guess the sock puck sock puppets is the FcTYYAzsrIM-02092-00540069-00540349 technical phrase for them and I mean FcTYYAzsrIM-02093-00540350-00540553 that always do there's some you know FcTYYAzsrIM-02094-00540554-00540760 usually just individual dumb person on a FcTYYAzsrIM-02095-00540761-00540904 campaign thinks they can be cute by FcTYYAzsrIM-02096-00540905-00541243 pretending to do X Y & Z and because FcTYYAzsrIM-02097-00541244-00541431 it's so it's people are fairly easily FcTYYAzsrIM-02098-00541432-00541568 exposed it would FcTYYAzsrIM-02099-00541569-00541688 things are fairly easy exposed so I FcTYYAzsrIM-02100-00541689-00541922 don't I don't think that that was much FcTYYAzsrIM-02101-00541923-00542116 well let me give you a concrete example FcTYYAzsrIM-02102-00542117-00542342 one of the most heavily hit visited FcTYYAzsrIM-02103-00542343-00542540 Wikipedia entries of all time with Sarah FcTYYAzsrIM-02104-00542541-00542744 Palin's entry the day of her FcTYYAzsrIM-02105-00542745-00542900 announcement and if you follow the FcTYYAzsrIM-02106-00542901-00543119 history page back it looked like between FcTYYAzsrIM-02107-00543120-00543320 sixty to seventy percent of the content FcTYYAzsrIM-02108-00543321-00543497 there was written between midnight and FcTYYAzsrIM-02109-00543498-00543599 noon and the day of the announcement FcTYYAzsrIM-02110-00543600-00543782 right well let's say we don't know who FcTYYAzsrIM-02111-00543783-00543965 wrote that but circumstantial evidence FcTYYAzsrIM-02112-00543966-00544178 suggests it was probably someone in the FcTYYAzsrIM-02113-00544179-00544334 campaign now whether we see that as FcTYYAzsrIM-02114-00544335-00544550 manipulation or simply that's good I FcTYYAzsrIM-02115-00544551-00544724 would see that as good campaigning but FcTYYAzsrIM-02116-00544725-00544886 some casitas and I can see what you're FcTYYAzsrIM-02117-00544887-00545144 saying I mean you obviously you you want FcTYYAzsrIM-02118-00545145-00545330 to try and define Sarah Palin positively FcTYYAzsrIM-02119-00545331-00545522 if you're the McCain campaign and if you FcTYYAzsrIM-02120-00545523-00545894 don't do that you know it's a hard FcTYYAzsrIM-02121-00545895-00546179 question because I just see a political FcTYYAzsrIM-02122-00546180-00546416 campaign is essentially a manipulation FcTYYAzsrIM-02123-00546417-00546848 of media you know it's it's so I'm a FcTYYAzsrIM-02124-00546849-00546989 little hard pressed to answer because it FcTYYAzsrIM-02125-00546990-00547181 you know the campaigns are trying to FcTYYAzsrIM-02126-00547182-00547475 tell a story and they're gonna create FcTYYAzsrIM-02127-00547476-00547583 you know very effective ways to FcTYYAzsrIM-02128-00547584-00547820 manipulate all the different ways you're FcTYYAzsrIM-02129-00547821-00548015 going to hear that story you know on all FcTYYAzsrIM-02130-00548016-00548411 the different platforms so yeah I think FcTYYAzsrIM-02131-00548412-00548648 so too the your question I think yes I FcTYYAzsrIM-02132-00548649-00548858 think it is very much complete FcTYYAzsrIM-02133-00548859-00549182 manipulation of media to tell your story FcTYYAzsrIM-02134-00549183-00549422 you know it's it's I mean that's the FcTYYAzsrIM-02135-00549423-00549599 deal I mean that's that's you gotta win FcTYYAzsrIM-02136-00549600-00549986 an election this is all this story just FcTYYAzsrIM-02137-00549987-00550169 very briefly martin aizen's this this FcTYYAzsrIM-02138-00550170-00550433 this the the there actually is an FcTYYAzsrIM-02139-00550434-00550703 example now this guy named or fake guys FcTYYAzsrIM-02140-00550704-00551294 not doesn't exist but this person a few FcTYYAzsrIM-02141-00551295-00551438 people created an identity forgot named FcTYYAzsrIM-02142-00551439-00551615 martin Eisenstaedt who they claimed was FcTYYAzsrIM-02143-00551616-00551945 a mccain adviser who had fed Carl a FcTYYAzsrIM-02144-00551946-00552236 Cameron of Fox the quote that that you FcTYYAzsrIM-02145-00552237-00552431 know Sarah Palin couldn't distinguish FcTYYAzsrIM-02146-00552432-00552734 between a couldn't didn't know whether FcTYYAzsrIM-02147-00552735-00552908 Africa was a thought Africa was a FcTYYAzsrIM-02148-00552909-00553172 country as opposed to a continent and a FcTYYAzsrIM-02149-00553173-00553391 lot of media sources uncritically pick FcTYYAzsrIM-02150-00553392-00553610 this up and said oh you know this is the FcTYYAzsrIM-02151-00553611-00553802 McCain and they didn't even bother to FcTYYAzsrIM-02152-00553803-00554006 check that this person the McCain FcTYYAzsrIM-02153-00554007-00554174 campaign really had no idea who this FcTYYAzsrIM-02154-00554175-00554390 person was was an advisor but again FcTYYAzsrIM-02155-00554391-00554549 these things get exposed so quickly FcTYYAzsrIM-02156-00554550-00554735 right I think probably what's FcTYYAzsrIM-02157-00554736-00554868 interesting about that example FcTYYAzsrIM-02158-00554869-00555122 is because the original quote came from FcTYYAzsrIM-02159-00555123-00555399 a report a reporter on Fox that was FcTYYAzsrIM-02160-00555400-00555576 critical of Sarah Palin you FcTYYAzsrIM-02161-00555577-00555745 instantaneously believed it was true FcTYYAzsrIM-02162-00555746-00556083 right because Fox has such a reputation FcTYYAzsrIM-02163-00556084-00556257 of only reporting positive news that FcTYYAzsrIM-02164-00556258-00556416 it's like well who needs to check FcTYYAzsrIM-02165-00556417-00556545 there's no right box but if Keith FcTYYAzsrIM-02166-00556546-00556643 Olbermann said something bad about FcTYYAzsrIM-02167-00556644-00556883 Barack Obama you'd be like you know FcTYYAzsrIM-02168-00556884-00557202 right it has to be true so anyway so I FcTYYAzsrIM-02169-00557203-00557447 mean there are so to that degree if that FcTYYAzsrIM-02170-00557448-00557643 if that's what falls in the category of FcTYYAzsrIM-02171-00557644-00557850 manipulation of media no doubt what what FcTYYAzsrIM-02172-00557851-00558093 Keith Olbermann does every night at FcTYYAzsrIM-02173-00558094-00558272 eight o'clock and what Sean Hannity does FcTYYAzsrIM-02174-00558273-00558591 at 9:00 p.m. every night that is FcTYYAzsrIM-02175-00558592-00559088 complete bias on both sides of the aisle FcTYYAzsrIM-02176-00559089-00559329 technologically we're facilitating this FcTYYAzsrIM-02177-00559330-00559701 through tools like mash-up technology I FcTYYAzsrIM-02178-00559702-00559932 mean you can now mash up mash ups and FcTYYAzsrIM-02179-00559933-00560197 mash those up and so what begins as a FcTYYAzsrIM-02180-00560198-00560795 pure campaign originated video takes on FcTYYAzsrIM-02181-00560796-00561108 a life of its own by the very fact you FcTYYAzsrIM-02182-00561109-00561336 put it on YouTube so the the FcTYYAzsrIM-02183-00561337-00561555 manipulation we're facilitating it I FcTYYAzsrIM-02184-00561556-00562506 guess I'm gonna add another facet to FcTYYAzsrIM-02185-00562507-00562616 Madeleine's FcTYYAzsrIM-02186-00562617-00562926 kind of cynicism I come from a FcTYYAzsrIM-02187-00562927-00563124 background in very traditional activism FcTYYAzsrIM-02188-00563125-00563415 and have a lot of old-school hippie FcTYYAzsrIM-02189-00563416-00563703 friends from the 60s who are very FcTYYAzsrIM-02190-00563704-00563961 disturbed by what they're seeing with FcTYYAzsrIM-02191-00563962-00564245 Barack Obama and I keep hearing the the FcTYYAzsrIM-02192-00564246-00564474 phrase cult of personality things like FcTYYAzsrIM-02193-00564475-00564699 this you know I don't I don't believe it FcTYYAzsrIM-02194-00564700-00564810 but this is what I'm hearing from my FcTYYAzsrIM-02195-00564811-00565152 older friends and at the same time I FcTYYAzsrIM-02196-00565153-00565445 they're criticizing the kind of things FcTYYAzsrIM-02197-00565446-00565563 that you're pointing out here where it's FcTYYAzsrIM-02198-00565564-00565743 like you just put a widget on your blog FcTYYAzsrIM-02199-00565744-00565917 and you feel like you've done something FcTYYAzsrIM-02200-00565918-00566154 that's active and involved and changing FcTYYAzsrIM-02201-00566155-00566358 policy and I'm wondering what you have FcTYYAzsrIM-02202-00566359-00566490 to say about that first of all and FcTYYAzsrIM-02203-00566491-00566772 second of all I'm wondering what you FcTYYAzsrIM-02204-00566773-00566925 have to say about this also from the FcTYYAzsrIM-02205-00566926-00567186 point of view that the very same people FcTYYAzsrIM-02206-00567187-00567432 who have been saying about bush for last FcTYYAzsrIM-02207-00567433-00567668 eight years that you know he's someone FcTYYAzsrIM-02208-00567669-00567831 that I want to go have a beer with and FcTYYAzsrIM-02209-00567832-00567995 you know he's just like us are now FcTYYAzsrIM-02210-00567996-00568110 saying the same things about Barack FcTYYAzsrIM-02211-00568111-00568251 Obama where it's like you know FcTYYAzsrIM-02212-00568252-00568497 scholar he's one of us we feel very we FcTYYAzsrIM-02213-00568498-00568707 feel very comfortable with him and I'm FcTYYAzsrIM-02214-00568708-00568905 not I'm not saying that's necessarily a FcTYYAzsrIM-02215-00568906-00569136 bad thing to be believing about your FcTYYAzsrIM-02216-00569137-00569256 candidates in fact I think it's a great FcTYYAzsrIM-02217-00569257-00569379 thing that people are feeling connected FcTYYAzsrIM-02218-00569380-00569535 with their candidates but at the same FcTYYAzsrIM-02219-00569536-00569742 time I'm wondering if the kind of tools FcTYYAzsrIM-02220-00569743-00569829 that we've been talking about have FcTYYAzsrIM-02221-00569830-00570006 changed how we approach our politics FcTYYAzsrIM-02222-00570007-00570192 rather from a instead of from a policy FcTYYAzsrIM-02223-00570193-00570381 perspective we're coming at it now from FcTYYAzsrIM-02224-00570382-00570636 a kind of like who's who's our who's our FcTYYAzsrIM-02225-00570637-00571158 man kind of or woman perspective I I FcTYYAzsrIM-02226-00571159-00571344 think I think it is I think it is FcTYYAzsrIM-02227-00571345-00571515 although I would love to ask what you FcTYYAzsrIM-02228-00571516-00571893 call your hippie friends if if if they FcTYYAzsrIM-02229-00571894-00572250 had if they felt a certain reverence for FcTYYAzsrIM-02230-00572251-00572562 John F Kennedy during the 60s if he was FcTYYAzsrIM-02231-00572563-00572876 became this larger-than-life mythical FcTYYAzsrIM-02232-00572877-00573228 figure who represented so much and then FcTYYAzsrIM-02233-00573229-00573357 we had Watergate and all these you know FcTYYAzsrIM-02234-00573358-00573624 so I I would I would I would be curious FcTYYAzsrIM-02235-00573625-00574050 how they would compare their personal FcTYYAzsrIM-02236-00574051-00574269 feelings for him - what's happening with FcTYYAzsrIM-02237-00574270-00574488 Obama now but I do think there's I mean FcTYYAzsrIM-02238-00574489-00574653 we live in a celebrity culture a lot of FcTYYAzsrIM-02239-00574654-00575106 it fueled by MTV where you know there is FcTYYAzsrIM-02240-00575107-00575460 this this idea that we can be you know I FcTYYAzsrIM-02241-00575461-00575679 can have a hundred you know 300 friends FcTYYAzsrIM-02242-00575680-00575856 and sent aeneas Lee yeah you know I can FcTYYAzsrIM-02243-00575857-00576027 create these intimate relationships so FcTYYAzsrIM-02244-00576028-00576354 you're right there is a different I FcTYYAzsrIM-02245-00576355-00576519 don't know if it's necessarily bad I FcTYYAzsrIM-02246-00576520-00576774 mean I do think for our audience I do FcTYYAzsrIM-02247-00576775-00577008 think that you know that they there is a FcTYYAzsrIM-02248-00577009-00577167 certain kind of kinship with Obama but FcTYYAzsrIM-02249-00577168-00577317 there's no doubt that issues played a FcTYYAzsrIM-02250-00577318-00577629 big role I mean 74 percent of 18 to 29 FcTYYAzsrIM-02251-00577630-00577812 year olds told us that they personally FcTYYAzsrIM-02252-00577813-00578088 know someone that fought in Iraq or FcTYYAzsrIM-02253-00578089-00578457 Afghanistan you know a huge issue in FcTYYAzsrIM-02254-00578458-00578646 terms of seeing your friends independent FcTYYAzsrIM-02255-00578647-00578877 of how you felt felt about the war but FcTYYAzsrIM-02256-00578878-00579234 knowing that who is president has a date FcTYYAzsrIM-02257-00579235-00579426 has a real impact on your lives and so FcTYYAzsrIM-02258-00579427-00579564 when our audience is telling us they're FcTYYAzsrIM-02259-00579565-00579762 seeing their friends come home and not FcTYYAzsrIM-02260-00579763-00579969 getting the treatment they deserve or FcTYYAzsrIM-02261-00579970-00580104 not getting their school benefits or FcTYYAzsrIM-02262-00580105-00580227 they can't hold a job where they can't FcTYYAzsrIM-02263-00580228-00580413 stay in a relationship that became a FcTYYAzsrIM-02264-00580414-00580713 very real issue for them and seeing gas FcTYYAzsrIM-02265-00580714-00580863 prices and knowing that we're at war FcTYYAzsrIM-02266-00580864-00581070 because of our you know dependence on FcTYYAzsrIM-02267-00581071-00581331 oil so so while there certainly is a I FcTYYAzsrIM-02268-00581332-00581490 think there is a cult of personality I FcTYYAzsrIM-02269-00581491-00581607 don't think that FcTYYAzsrIM-02270-00581608-00581889 pletely trumped issues like a massive FcTYYAzsrIM-02271-00581890-00582141 deficit you know stock markets plunging FcTYYAzsrIM-02272-00582142-00582423 fears are on global warming so you know FcTYYAzsrIM-02273-00582424-00582663 we have to give some credit to you know FcTYYAzsrIM-02274-00582664-00582831 that this will also is an issues based FcTYYAzsrIM-02275-00582832-00583284 election how deeply do you think the FcTYYAzsrIM-02276-00583285-00583410 people that you were working with were FcTYYAzsrIM-02277-00583411-00583647 engaged with issues because you know FcTYYAzsrIM-02278-00583648-00583827 Barack Obama has prompt promise to FcTYYAzsrIM-02279-00583828-00583983 increase military spending and you know FcTYYAzsrIM-02280-00583984-00584283 in various issues this is the people who FcTYYAzsrIM-02281-00584284-00584418 I'm working with are saying there's a FcTYYAzsrIM-02282-00584419-00584634 disconnect between this ideal of him is FcTYYAzsrIM-02283-00584635-00584838 a strong anti-war candidate and I share FcTYYAzsrIM-02284-00584839-00585078 those people's concerns but what he's FcTYYAzsrIM-02285-00585079-00585261 promising on the policy side and I'm FcTYYAzsrIM-02286-00585262-00585438 that's that's the kind of disconnect I'm FcTYYAzsrIM-02287-00585439-00585597 curious the bright point out he's always FcTYYAzsrIM-02288-00585598-00585840 said he's always denied that he's an FcTYYAzsrIM-02289-00585841-00586041 anti work and what he will say is I'm FcTYYAzsrIM-02290-00586042-00586221 against the Iraq war I'm not against war FcTYYAzsrIM-02291-00586222-00586635 right and and instantly actually both at FcTYYAzsrIM-02292-00586636-00586887 me and at this point now he's he's he FcTYYAzsrIM-02293-00586888-00587049 he's talking about cutting defense FcTYYAzsrIM-02294-00587050-00587217 spending but that's because everyone's FcTYYAzsrIM-02295-00587218-00587322 talking about cutting defense spending FcTYYAzsrIM-02296-00587323-00587520 but that's a tangential point but I I FcTYYAzsrIM-02297-00587521-00587697 just I just wanted to clear that up FcTYYAzsrIM-02298-00587698-00587883 because maybe Pia I think part of the FcTYYAzsrIM-02299-00587884-00588090 the genius of the Obama campaign was FcTYYAzsrIM-02300-00588091-00588273 that he allowed a lot of different FcTYYAzsrIM-02301-00588274-00588414 things to be projected onto him and FcTYYAzsrIM-02302-00588415-00588681 maybe that also you know could turn out FcTYYAzsrIM-02303-00588682-00588873 to be if he doesn't do very well his FcTYYAzsrIM-02304-00588874-00589137 undoing because expectations for him may FcTYYAzsrIM-02305-00589138-00589359 be very very different maybe not in the FcTYYAzsrIM-02306-00589360-00589914 reality of increasing increasing FcTYYAzsrIM-02307-00589915-00590586 increasing activism has improved through FcTYYAzsrIM-02308-00590587-00590808 technology because we're we're making it FcTYYAzsrIM-02309-00590809-00591027 easier and import I think most important FcTYYAzsrIM-02310-00591028-00591231 geographically because if you're from a FcTYYAzsrIM-02311-00591232-00591437 small town you can convene with a FcTYYAzsrIM-02312-00591438-00591669 close-knit group of people but we've FcTYYAzsrIM-02313-00591670-00591918 broaden that ability as an example you FcTYYAzsrIM-02314-00591919-00592017 know at least on our social networking FcTYYAzsrIM-02315-00592018-00592224 Obama had the same functionalities you FcTYYAzsrIM-02316-00592225-00592563 can really get into my new show of how FcTYYAzsrIM-02317-00592564-00592839 you want to become an activist by you FcTYYAzsrIM-02318-00592840-00592968 know I care about these issues this is FcTYYAzsrIM-02319-00592969-00593091 how I'm willing to help support these FcTYYAzsrIM-02320-00593092-00593223 issues whether it's door knocking or FcTYYAzsrIM-02321-00593224-00593415 phone banking etc and I just think FcTYYAzsrIM-02322-00593416-00593592 that's increasing the body of people FcTYYAzsrIM-02323-00593593-00593757 that want to participate which which is FcTYYAzsrIM-02324-00593758-00594300 a good thing you you've opened a huge FcTYYAzsrIM-02325-00594301-00594507 door for me that I'm not sure I want to FcTYYAzsrIM-02326-00594508-00594816 go into on criticizing Obama but I think FcTYYAzsrIM-02327-00594817-00594992 the one point FcTYYAzsrIM-02328-00594993-00595151 the one point that we were trying to FcTYYAzsrIM-02329-00595152-00595307 make this campaign that I'm not really FcTYYAzsrIM-02330-00595308-00595583 sure ever resonated was that we don't FcTYYAzsrIM-02331-00595584-00595832 know a lot about Senator Obama and I FcTYYAzsrIM-02332-00595833-00596032 mean I hope he's a great president I FcTYYAzsrIM-02333-00596033-00596408 hope America becomes stronger and we FcTYYAzsrIM-02334-00596409-00596654 solve our economic issues but we really FcTYYAzsrIM-02335-00596655-00597002 know so little about him at the time and FcTYYAzsrIM-02336-00597003-00597308 time time will tell about it strip out FcTYYAzsrIM-02337-00597309-00597794 his true self we see the image of FcTYYAzsrIM-02338-00597795-00597944 because I feel like all information is FcTYYAzsrIM-02339-00597945-00598070 out there it's just that people aren't FcTYYAzsrIM-02340-00598071-00598181 connecting with it they're connecting FcTYYAzsrIM-02341-00598182-00598301 with other elements but I don't want to FcTYYAzsrIM-02342-00598302-00598448 take up too much all right yeah so we FcTYYAzsrIM-02343-00598449-00598610 are we're about to go into what I call FcTYYAzsrIM-02344-00598611-00598886 the lightning round session we've got 15 FcTYYAzsrIM-02345-00598887-00599054 minutes late we have a hard stop at the FcTYYAzsrIM-02346-00599055-00599255 top of the hour so everyone can try for FcTYYAzsrIM-02347-00599256-00599468 conciseness on both sides of the FcTYYAzsrIM-02348-00599469-00599738 microphones here we can hopefully get at FcTYYAzsrIM-02349-00599739-00599906 least these people waiting in line yeah FcTYYAzsrIM-02350-00599907-00600122 I'll try to pack this all into it to a FcTYYAzsrIM-02351-00600123-00600383 quick sound bite but my name is Evan and FcTYYAzsrIM-02352-00600384-00600575 I I helped start and I've been working FcTYYAzsrIM-02353-00600576-00600716 on research for a site called glass FcTYYAzsrIM-02354-00600717-00600953 booth org for the past year some of you FcTYYAzsrIM-02355-00600954-00601057 guys might have seen it but it's a FcTYYAzsrIM-02356-00601058-00601294 nonpartisan not profit not-for-profit FcTYYAzsrIM-02357-00601295-00601535 voter education site where we really FcTYYAzsrIM-02358-00601536-00601724 tried to get all of the candidates and FcTYYAzsrIM-02359-00601725-00601949 their positions on not just mainstream FcTYYAzsrIM-02360-00601950-00602180 issues like Iraq and abortion but also FcTYYAzsrIM-02361-00602181-00602366 different issues like net neutrality or FcTYYAzsrIM-02362-00602367-00602570 media consolidation or sort of the FcTYYAzsrIM-02363-00602571-00602747 principle of war as an instrument of FcTYYAzsrIM-02364-00602748-00602933 policy different types of questions and FcTYYAzsrIM-02365-00602934-00603122 really making that information FcTYYAzsrIM-02366-00603123-00603362 transparent so my question is about the FcTYYAzsrIM-02367-00603363-00603653 debates and with the debates this year FcTYYAzsrIM-02368-00603654-00603830 you saw them start to open up in the FcTYYAzsrIM-02369-00603831-00603977 sense they had the CNN YouTube debate FcTYYAzsrIM-02370-00603978-00604169 there was the thing on MTV where there FcTYYAzsrIM-02371-00604170-00604430 was a citizen submitting questions but FcTYYAzsrIM-02372-00604431-00604658 they didn't really go all the way there FcTYYAzsrIM-02373-00604659-00604838 was still a control maintained over the FcTYYAzsrIM-02374-00604839-00605030 questions and because of that you never FcTYYAzsrIM-02375-00605031-00605297 really got questions asked in the public FcTYYAzsrIM-02376-00605298-00605513 sphere about questions like media FcTYYAzsrIM-02377-00605514-00605777 consolidation or drug policy or these FcTYYAzsrIM-02378-00605778-00606080 sort of marginalize issues so I'm just FcTYYAzsrIM-02379-00606081-00606407 wondering I guess how you think the FcTYYAzsrIM-02380-00606408-00606650 control over the debates is changing and FcTYYAzsrIM-02381-00606651-00606845 and how much longer you think sort of FcTYYAzsrIM-02382-00606846-00607007 corporations and also the two major FcTYYAzsrIM-02383-00607008-00607247 parties can keep that control and how FcTYYAzsrIM-02384-00607248-00607364 soon they're going to have to sort of FcTYYAzsrIM-02385-00607365-00607655 let citizens really choose the questions FcTYYAzsrIM-02386-00607656-00607925 that are asked well I I get paychecks FcTYYAzsrIM-02387-00607926-00608220 from corporations so I'm I'm FcTYYAzsrIM-02388-00608221-00608409 you can disbelieve this response of FcTYYAzsrIM-02389-00608410-00608631 course but I spent a lot of time on the FcTYYAzsrIM-02390-00608632-00608910 campaign trail and in virtually every FcTYYAzsrIM-02391-00608911-00609057 college town that both candidates were FcTYYAzsrIM-02392-00609058-00609195 asked they were always ask at least one FcTYYAzsrIM-02393-00609196-00609485 question about drug policy FcTYYAzsrIM-02394-00609486-00609872 happened in 2004 when all the candidates FcTYYAzsrIM-02395-00609873-00610062 I mean is so questions certainly ask the FcTYYAzsrIM-02396-00610063-00610356 candidates had stock responses to it FcTYYAzsrIM-02397-00610357-00610524 because the questions were we're usually FcTYYAzsrIM-02398-00610525-00611004 you know we're usually similar and they FcTYYAzsrIM-02399-00611005-00611195 they took positions on things like net FcTYYAzsrIM-02400-00611196-00611616 neutrality and they and I you know you FcTYYAzsrIM-02401-00611617-00611718 would hear the mass about media FcTYYAzsrIM-02402-00611719-00611841 consolidation but you're right I mean I FcTYYAzsrIM-02403-00611842-00612032 don't I don't think you're ever going to FcTYYAzsrIM-02404-00612033-00612435 convince the old media so you sent that FcTYYAzsrIM-02405-00612436-00612594 they they have control of these settings FcTYYAzsrIM-02406-00612595-00613038 completely relinquish it I mean that FcTYYAzsrIM-02407-00613039-00613224 Ralph Nader has certainly been trying FcTYYAzsrIM-02408-00613225-00613359 for years and years and years by trying FcTYYAzsrIM-02409-00613360-00613530 to get into these debates I mean I I do FcTYYAzsrIM-02410-00613531-00613692 I do think that Commission on FcTYYAzsrIM-02411-00613693-00613847 presidential debates probably for FcTYYAzsrIM-02412-00613848-00613974 different reasons than you do but I FcTYYAzsrIM-02413-00613975-00614253 think it's a complete and utter joke and FcTYYAzsrIM-02414-00614254-00614553 that you know that the candidates I mean FcTYYAzsrIM-02415-00614554-00614811 that it's a private corporation that FcTYYAzsrIM-02416-00614812-00615087 essentially has I mean and that that FcTYYAzsrIM-02417-00615088-00615267 does actually create concerns for me a FcTYYAzsrIM-02418-00615268-00615408 private corporation having control over FcTYYAzsrIM-02419-00615409-00615642 these very very very important moments FcTYYAzsrIM-02420-00615643-00615957 of of our of our democracy so I think FcTYYAzsrIM-02421-00615958-00616172 you and I may disagree about corporate FcTYYAzsrIM-02422-00616173-00616413 media for a variety of different levels FcTYYAzsrIM-02423-00616414-00616650 but I think perhaps we can we can both FcTYYAzsrIM-02424-00616651-00616806 agree that the Commission on FcTYYAzsrIM-02425-00616807-00617063 presidential debates is one thing that FcTYYAzsrIM-02426-00617064-00617379 that and there's a lot of complex FcTYYAzsrIM-02427-00617380-00617568 reasons why I think it's an awful idea FcTYYAzsrIM-02428-00617569-00617913 but it is it is a bit disconcerting to FcTYYAzsrIM-02429-00617914-00618170 have a private corporation control what FcTYYAzsrIM-02430-00618171-00618435 are the just even the format and the FcTYYAzsrIM-02431-00618436-00618675 rules so the candidates say that they FcTYYAzsrIM-02432-00618676-00619017 negotiate them it's a don't hey I'm not FcTYYAzsrIM-02433-00619018-00619140 gonna talk more about this because it's FcTYYAzsrIM-02434-00619141-00619413 a very sore issue for for me but they FcTYYAzsrIM-02435-00619414-00619539 are kind of ridiculous I hope they go FcTYYAzsrIM-02436-00619540-00619740 away I just want to echo marks FcTYYAzsrIM-02437-00619741-00620001 sentiments and say that that for me was FcTYYAzsrIM-02438-00620002-00620136 the most disappointing part of this FcTYYAzsrIM-02439-00620137-00620292 entire campaign cycle was that the FcTYYAzsrIM-02440-00620293-00620436 Presidential Commission on debates did FcTYYAzsrIM-02441-00620437-00620544 such a poor job of incorporating FcTYYAzsrIM-02442-00620545-00620784 technology and bringing in the voices of FcTYYAzsrIM-02443-00620785-00620922 the citizens to participate in something FcTYYAzsrIM-02444-00620923-00621318 that was archaic um on its face I mean FcTYYAzsrIM-02445-00621319-00621612 it this is a call out look at the camera FcTYYAzsrIM-02446-00621613-00621737 it's a call to whoever leads the FcTYYAzsrIM-02447-00621738-00621975 organization to please in the next set FcTYYAzsrIM-02448-00621976-00622431 of debates improve yeah when we when we FcTYYAzsrIM-02449-00622432-00622820 did our first big event with Senator FcTYYAzsrIM-02450-00622821-00623055 Obama an MTV MySpace we partnered and by FcTYYAzsrIM-02451-00623056-00623216 the way glass booth is a great website FcTYYAzsrIM-02452-00623217-00623382 and I wish we had done more work with FcTYYAzsrIM-02453-00623383-00623778 you when we did our first MTV myspace FcTYYAzsrIM-02454-00623779-00623985 presidential dialogue with Senator Obama FcTYYAzsrIM-02455-00623986-00624137 we partnered with a group called ten FcTYYAzsrIM-02456-00624138-00624504 questions comm and the basic idea with FcTYYAzsrIM-02457-00624505-00624684 ten questions was that people submitted FcTYYAzsrIM-02458-00624685-00624887 the question that they wanted to ask the FcTYYAzsrIM-02459-00624888-00625241 president and or the home they wanted to FcTYYAzsrIM-02460-00625242-00625683 ask the candidate and we said look at at FcTYYAzsrIM-02461-00625684-00625947 10:30 on the morning that we were doing FcTYYAzsrIM-02462-00625948-00626112 the dialogue which is happening at 12 FcTYYAzsrIM-02463-00626113-00626376 o'clock the number one question at 10:30 FcTYYAzsrIM-02464-00626377-00626685 would be the question that was asked and FcTYYAzsrIM-02465-00626686-00626793 it turned out to be uh net neutrality FcTYYAzsrIM-02466-00626794-00626997 yeah that's we that's where we got FcTYYAzsrIM-02467-00626998-00627143 Obama's position actually is from you FcTYYAzsrIM-02468-00627144-00628143 guys so never worked that might before FcTYYAzsrIM-02469-00628144-00628230 Hey FcTYYAzsrIM-02470-00628231-00628416 okay so uh what do you think about FcTYYAzsrIM-02471-00628417-00628704 Barack's not having any kind of military FcTYYAzsrIM-02472-00628705-00628908 experience I mean certainly he's not FcTYYAzsrIM-02473-00628909-00629328 qualified to be the president if he FcTYYAzsrIM-02474-00629329-00629585 doesn't have any military experiment FcTYYAzsrIM-02475-00629586-00629907 okay not exactly a media question I FcTYYAzsrIM-02476-00629908-00630204 don't know if anyone wants to oh well FcTYYAzsrIM-02477-00630205-00630416 you know the election went on and I FcTYYAzsrIM-02478-00630417-00630512 thought we were talking about the FcTYYAzsrIM-02479-00630513-00631449 election and media results represent FcTYYAzsrIM-02480-00631450-00631650 this question of experience which was FcTYYAzsrIM-02481-00631651-00631812 certainly a central theme running FcTYYAzsrIM-02482-00631813-00632034 through the campaign well especially FcTYYAzsrIM-02483-00632035-00632291 when compared to someone who had the FcTYYAzsrIM-02484-00632292-00632462 incredible background of John McCain I FcTYYAzsrIM-02485-00632463-00632595 mean it was a it was a big FcTYYAzsrIM-02486-00632596-00632787 differentiating characteristic that I FcTYYAzsrIM-02487-00632788-00632987 don't think you know I think John McCain FcTYYAzsrIM-02488-00632988-00633285 didn't do a good enough job of drawing FcTYYAzsrIM-02489-00633286-00633552 that distinction but I think what Obama FcTYYAzsrIM-02490-00633553-00633726 was able to do okay so you think that FcTYYAzsrIM-02491-00633727-00634016 McCain didn't have military experience FcTYYAzsrIM-02492-00634017-00634314 not for it wounded him in his campaign FcTYYAzsrIM-02493-00634315-00634890 but because Obama kind of FcTYYAzsrIM-02494-00634891-00635280 could you battle or something that made FcTYYAzsrIM-02495-00635281-00635550 him equal McCain Amana know how far we FcTYYAzsrIM-02496-00635551-00635700 want to go down this road but McCain FcTYYAzsrIM-02497-00635701-00635931 right I mean my sense is in this on this FcTYYAzsrIM-02498-00635932-00636018 particular issue FcTYYAzsrIM-02499-00636019-00636360 if the Iraq war if the Iraq war had FcTYYAzsrIM-02500-00636361-00636714 remained as big an issue as it was a FcTYYAzsrIM-02501-00636715-00637131 year ago the sort of preponderance on FcTYYAzsrIM-02502-00637132-00637392 military background and military acumen FcTYYAzsrIM-02503-00637393-00637551 probably would have made much more of a FcTYYAzsrIM-02504-00637552-00637746 difference ultimately the campaign FcTYYAzsrIM-02505-00637747-00637920 became much more about the ability to be FcTYYAzsrIM-02506-00637921-00638088 a you know a steward over the economy FcTYYAzsrIM-02507-00638089-00638328 and I think on that front McCain didn't FcTYYAzsrIM-02508-00638329-00638508 you know in the military experience the FcTYYAzsrIM-02509-00638509-00638742 hero the heroines of all that stuff just FcTYYAzsrIM-02510-00638743-00639030 became much less important and so I FcTYYAzsrIM-02511-00639031-00639204 think it just became a non-issue FcTYYAzsrIM-02512-00639205-00639387 even though McCain certainly had you FcTYYAzsrIM-02513-00639388-00639666 know much more cred in that area okay FcTYYAzsrIM-02514-00639667-00639795 I've got eight minutes to get to FcTYYAzsrIM-02515-00639796-00639990 questions in so why don't we if you'd FcTYYAzsrIM-02516-00639991-00640871 let us go to the next question FcTYYAzsrIM-02517-00640872-00641307 why did media so completely dropped the FcTYYAzsrIM-02518-00641308-00641604 issue of Obama producing his birth FcTYYAzsrIM-02519-00641605-00641895 certificate since the two most important FcTYYAzsrIM-02520-00641896-00642312 qualifiers for presidency is age and the FcTYYAzsrIM-02521-00642313-00642645 place of birth is that do you think the FcTYYAzsrIM-02522-00642646-00642807 only reason it work they're completely FcTYYAzsrIM-02523-00642808-00642987 never dropped dropped it completely FcTYYAzsrIM-02524-00642988-00643118 because he was black and they were FcTYYAzsrIM-02525-00643119-00643377 afraid of being accused what you're FcTYYAzsrIM-02526-00643378-00643623 saying you're saying yeah the story that FcTYYAzsrIM-02527-00643624-00644094 he was important we still don't know if FcTYYAzsrIM-02528-00644095-00644352 he's an American or not we should go to FcTYYAzsrIM-02529-00644353-00644658 fight the smears calm and sin see if FcTYYAzsrIM-02530-00644659-00644883 it's there seriously I mean that that's FcTYYAzsrIM-02531-00644884-00645015 definitely been a rumor that he wasn't FcTYYAzsrIM-02532-00645016-00645126 born in the United States and in fact FcTYYAzsrIM-02533-00645127-00646059 the truth matters I think he has but FcTYYAzsrIM-02534-00646060-00646209 that has the truth has nothing to do FcTYYAzsrIM-02535-00646210-00646524 with this right and and because in fact FcTYYAzsrIM-02536-00646525-00646935 when when he was quote-unquote suspended FcTYYAzsrIM-02537-00646936-00647064 his campaign and a much more elegant FcTYYAzsrIM-02538-00647065-00647265 style than McCain suspended his campaign FcTYYAzsrIM-02539-00647266-00647688 but when he went back to Hawaii for to FcTYYAzsrIM-02540-00647689-00647913 visit his sick grandmother that was the FcTYYAzsrIM-02541-00647914-00648135 rumor was that was all a cover you know FcTYYAzsrIM-02542-00648136-00648258 for him to go back and burn FcTYYAzsrIM-02543-00648259-00648596 and documents that actually really oh FcTYYAzsrIM-02544-00648597-00648918 there it is there it is and if it's on FcTYYAzsrIM-02545-00648919-00649638 the internet it's got to be true that's FcTYYAzsrIM-02546-00649639-00649953 again that's the power of what this FcTYYAzsrIM-02547-00649954-00650145 campaign has done but here's what do you FcTYYAzsrIM-02548-00650146-00650277 believe that do you think that's a valid FcTYYAzsrIM-02549-00650278-00650493 having seen that because because it's FcTYYAzsrIM-02550-00650494-00650717 what would it take to convince you FcTYYAzsrIM-02551-00650718-00650934 no I'm serious because obviously the FcTYYAzsrIM-02552-00650935-00651072 Obama campaign is putting this out you FcTYYAzsrIM-02553-00651073-00651290 could say well this is their fabrication FcTYYAzsrIM-02554-00651291-00651570 but but the one question in this age of FcTYYAzsrIM-02555-00651571-00651804 all this stuff is you know what type of FcTYYAzsrIM-02556-00651805-00651942 authority does it take to convince FcTYYAzsrIM-02557-00651943-00652164 people even though it does seem too you FcTYYAzsrIM-02558-00652165-00652443 know you can never approach 100% of the FcTYYAzsrIM-02559-00652444-00653010 of the so but I've met Matt maybe it's FcTYYAzsrIM-02560-00653011-00653340 it's not answerable question yeah I mean FcTYYAzsrIM-02561-00653341-00653562 David David is just noting that it FcTYYAzsrIM-02562-00653563-00653694 probably no other point in human history FcTYYAzsrIM-02563-00653695-00653882 would we have answered this question FcTYYAzsrIM-02564-00653883-00654153 quickly as we've done here whether we FcTYYAzsrIM-02565-00654154-00654330 believe or trust the information on the FcTYYAzsrIM-02566-00654331-00654504 toilet our nots a legitimate question FcTYYAzsrIM-02567-00654505-00654888 and I began information on memo size is FcTYYAzsrIM-02568-00654889-00655104 readily available at a fingertip and FcTYYAzsrIM-02569-00655105-00655326 scores just scroll up just scroll up see FcTYYAzsrIM-02570-00655327-00655488 what the look what the directive says at FcTYYAzsrIM-02571-00655489-00655779 the top next time someone talks about FcTYYAzsrIM-02572-00655780-00655995 Barack's birth certificate make sure FcTYYAzsrIM-02573-00655996-00656666 they see this page it's amazing it is FcTYYAzsrIM-02574-00656667-00657026 okay do you guys have final comments FcTYYAzsrIM-02575-00657027-00657234 meaning we haven't talked on that you FcTYYAzsrIM-02576-00657235-00657435 think central to our understanding of FcTYYAzsrIM-02577-00657436-00658143 this topic nice so yeah the question is FcTYYAzsrIM-02578-00658144-00658437 fundraising in the new media what are we FcTYYAzsrIM-02579-00658438-00658728 talked in a little bit but clearly it's FcTYYAzsrIM-02580-00658729-00658917 one of the big implications of this FcTYYAzsrIM-02581-00658918-00659082 campaign is one of the big FcTYYAzsrIM-02582-00659083-00659292 transformation is how much money how FcTYYAzsrIM-02583-00659293-00659487 it's possible to process smaller scale FcTYYAzsrIM-02584-00659488-00659739 donors and what some of the implications FcTYYAzsrIM-02585-00659740-00660069 of that may be yeah the truth is I'm I'm FcTYYAzsrIM-02586-00660070-00660258 really excited by it this this whole FcTYYAzsrIM-02587-00660259-00660516 idea of you actually take it out of the FcTYYAzsrIM-02588-00660517-00660738 political context for a second FcTYYAzsrIM-02589-00660739-00661053 this idea of micro philanthropy it's FcTYYAzsrIM-02590-00661054-00661437 really you know there are they are it FcTYYAzsrIM-02591-00661438-00661638 presents enormous opportunity FcTYYAzsrIM-02592-00661639-00661916 if you look at websites like kiva.org FcTYYAzsrIM-02593-00661917-00662154 some of you might be familiar with Kiva FcTYYAzsrIM-02594-00662155-00662282 or GlobalGiving FcTYYAzsrIM-02595-00662283-00662618 these are sites that essentially allow FcTYYAzsrIM-02596-00662619-00662880 an individual to make a personal FcTYYAzsrIM-02597-00662881-00663024 connection to another individual FcTYYAzsrIM-02598-00663025-00663363 individual in the case of kiva.org it is FcTYYAzsrIM-02599-00663364-00663554 an entrepreneur in a developing country FcTYYAzsrIM-02600-00663555-00664053 that might need a micro loan of $250 but FcTYYAzsrIM-02601-00664054-00664257 you know in their home country that that FcTYYAzsrIM-02602-00664258-00664470 is an enormous amount of money that then FcTYYAzsrIM-02603-00664471-00664737 allows them to launch a thriving FcTYYAzsrIM-02604-00664738-00665025 business that can transform their family FcTYYAzsrIM-02605-00665026-00665274 and so much as from what has been FcTYYAzsrIM-02606-00665275-00665616 learned from senator Obama's campaign is FcTYYAzsrIM-02607-00665617-00665889 how to facilitate these kinds of FcTYYAzsrIM-02608-00665890-00665988 connections where you essentially FcTYYAzsrIM-02609-00665989-00666201 eliminate intermediaries and another FcTYYAzsrIM-02610-00666202-00666309 thing that's been really amazing about FcTYYAzsrIM-02611-00666310-00666573 Kiva is that you know the the payback FcTYYAzsrIM-02612-00666574-00666717 rate is some of the extraordinary like FcTYYAzsrIM-02613-00666718-00666954 98% of the loans that are made or paid FcTYYAzsrIM-02614-00666955-00667203 back which is amazing but not only that FcTYYAzsrIM-02615-00667204-00667410 when the founders of Kiva launched they FcTYYAzsrIM-02616-00667411-00667581 thought they would just be helping the FcTYYAzsrIM-02617-00667582-00667779 entrepreneurs who now got access to FcTYYAzsrIM-02618-00667780-00667842 capital FcTYYAzsrIM-02619-00667843-00667998 but they've discovered that they've FcTYYAzsrIM-02620-00667999-00668238 created a community amongst the people FcTYYAzsrIM-02621-00668239-00668442 who are loaning the money who are now FcTYYAzsrIM-02622-00668443-00668646 saying wow you know I put money into FcTYYAzsrIM-02623-00668647-00668802 this business in Peru but do you know FcTYYAzsrIM-02624-00668803-00668973 that there's an an entrepreneur in FcTYYAzsrIM-02625-00668974-00669150 Uruguay who's got a similar kind of FcTYYAzsrIM-02626-00669151-00669402 business so I think you know outside of FcTYYAzsrIM-02627-00669403-00669543 the political context I think there are FcTYYAzsrIM-02628-00669544-00669825 enormous opportunities in education you FcTYYAzsrIM-02629-00669826-00669966 know we're working with with the Gates FcTYYAzsrIM-02630-00669967-00670239 Foundation on an idea now to facilitate FcTYYAzsrIM-02631-00670240-00670359 you know the idea of creating a FcTYYAzsrIM-02632-00670360-00670575 scholarship marketplace where any FcTYYAzsrIM-02633-00670576-00670806 individual can make a donation in the FcTYYAzsrIM-02634-00670807-00671018 form of a scholarship to a young person FcTYYAzsrIM-02635-00671019-00671319 who's who's at risk of dropping out of FcTYYAzsrIM-02636-00671320-00671586 high school it's it's it's tremendous I FcTYYAzsrIM-02637-00671587-00671886 think what it could mean for solving FcTYYAzsrIM-02638-00671887-00672135 really intractable problems by tapping FcTYYAzsrIM-02639-00672136-00672363 into the goodwill of individuals all FcTYYAzsrIM-02640-00672364-00672621 across the world I just like to FcTYYAzsrIM-02641-00672622-00672783 reiterate what I said earlier about the FcTYYAzsrIM-02642-00672784-00672966 importance of being a sport right as FcTYYAzsrIM-02643-00672967-00673188 possible about your donors and the ease FcTYYAzsrIM-02644-00673189-00673380 in which the Obama campaign enabled FcTYYAzsrIM-02645-00673381-00673587 small dollar donations I think it's FcTYYAzsrIM-02646-00673588-00673806 great that as many Americans donated FcTYYAzsrIM-02647-00673807-00673983 presumably Americans donated as they did FcTYYAzsrIM-02648-00673984-00674403 but I think it's presumably I think it's FcTYYAzsrIM-02649-00674404-00674706 incumbent I think it's incumbent that FcTYYAzsrIM-02650-00674707-00674898 moving forward I mean there was there FcTYYAzsrIM-02651-00674899-00675030 was no transparency FcTYYAzsrIM-02652-00675031-00675195 on Obama's website as to their donors FcTYYAzsrIM-02653-00675196-00675519 the RNC the RNC provided a database FcTYYAzsrIM-02654-00675520-00675765 where you could search for any donor Ron FcTYYAzsrIM-02655-00675766-00675900 Paul provided the names of all of his FcTYYAzsrIM-02656-00675901-00676098 donors as did Mike Huckabee on his web FcTYYAzsrIM-02657-00676099-00676353 on their websites so and the response FcTYYAzsrIM-02658-00676354-00676488 from the Obama campaign that it was FcTYYAzsrIM-02659-00676489-00676650 gonna be too difficult to sift through FcTYYAzsrIM-02660-00676651-00676875 the donors to determine who was valid FcTYYAzsrIM-02661-00676876-00677040 and who wasn't when in fact visa FcTYYAzsrIM-02662-00677041-00677289 processes millions of more donations per FcTYYAzsrIM-02663-00677290-00677496 hour than the Obama campaign did in FcTYYAzsrIM-02664-00677497-00677724 their entire campaign and the print the FcTYYAzsrIM-02665-00677725-00678048 the the the response at its surface um FcTYYAzsrIM-02666-00678049-00678459 wasn't acceptable to me well maybe I'll FcTYYAzsrIM-02667-00678460-00678696 end by by acknowledging that the McCain FcTYYAzsrIM-02668-00678697-00678855 campaign was more transparent about that FcTYYAzsrIM-02669-00678856-00678969 and some of the Obama campaign's FcTYYAzsrIM-02670-00678970-00679380 responses were were silly and that FcTYYAzsrIM-02671-00679381-00679563 Barack Obama and this may be getting to FcTYYAzsrIM-02672-00679564-00679731 what what you want to talk about and FcTYYAzsrIM-02673-00679732-00680196 that Barack Obama you know did decide to FcTYYAzsrIM-02674-00680197-00680429 opt out of the public financing system FcTYYAzsrIM-02675-00680430-00680756 because he simply believed that he could FcTYYAzsrIM-02676-00680757-00681135 raise a lot more money and and did in FcTYYAzsrIM-02677-00681136-00681279 his mind justified to the fact that FcTYYAzsrIM-02678-00681280-00681432 saying well if I can get two million FcTYYAzsrIM-02679-00681433-00681594 people to give that's kind of public FcTYYAzsrIM-02680-00681595-00681864 financing it's not a bunch of people but FcTYYAzsrIM-02681-00681865-00682050 not not a you know not a smaller group FcTYYAzsrIM-02682-00682051-00682359 of folks but Obama has also promised to FcTYYAzsrIM-02683-00682360-00682557 support a bill that would mandate public FcTYYAzsrIM-02684-00682558-00682746 financing for presidential elections FcTYYAzsrIM-02685-00682747-00682848 kind of easy to do that once you've been FcTYYAzsrIM-02686-00682849-00683118 elected but he's promised to do that and FcTYYAzsrIM-02687-00683119-00683313 and he obviously was successful not FcTYYAzsrIM-02688-00683314-00683487 doing that so it'll be very interesting FcTYYAzsrIM-02689-00683488-00683631 to see whether he keeps that promise or FcTYYAzsrIM-02690-00683632-00684000 whether he or whether he tries to wiggle FcTYYAzsrIM-02691-00684001-00684177 out of it now I'm gonna go a little FcTYYAzsrIM-02692-00684178-00684384 hyper partisan because you brought that FcTYYAzsrIM-02693-00684385-00684903 up Obama did promise that that he was FcTYYAzsrIM-02694-00684904-00685050 gonna take financing and then when he FcTYYAzsrIM-02695-00685051-00685194 saw the potential the internet and how FcTYYAzsrIM-02696-00685195-00685413 much money was coming in he he'd a back FcTYYAzsrIM-02697-00685414-00685602 off of his word and now that he's FcTYYAzsrIM-02698-00685603-00685836 elected promising to change it to so FcTYYAzsrIM-02699-00685837-00686118 it's it's hypocritical oh well it's it's FcTYYAzsrIM-02700-00686119-00686346 something but he you know he he did I FcTYYAzsrIM-02701-00686347-00686658 mean he deeply saw I mean even if even FcTYYAzsrIM-02702-00686659-00686903 Obama partisans should acknowledge that FcTYYAzsrIM-02703-00686904-00687239 the decision topped it was a wonderful FcTYYAzsrIM-02704-00687240-00687534 instrumental and tactical moment for his FcTYYAzsrIM-02705-00687535-00687873 campaign but ethic or now I wouldn't say FcTYYAzsrIM-02706-00687874-00688089 ethically but it wasn't the best moment FcTYYAzsrIM-02707-00688090-00688443 when it comes to you know sort of the FcTYYAzsrIM-02708-00688444-00688677 keeping his camp keeping his promises so FcTYYAzsrIM-02709-00688678-00688857 it's clear the debates about this FcTYYAzsrIM-02710-00688858-00689088 campaign will continue for a long time FcTYYAzsrIM-02711-00689089-00689313 to come but this has been an FcTYYAzsrIM-02712-00689314-00689550 illuminating discussion and I appreciate FcTYYAzsrIM-02713-00689551-00689751 all of the panelists and the audience FcTYYAzsrIM-02714-00689752-00689958 participation so thanks everyone for a FcTYYAzsrIM-02715-00689959-00690026 great FcTYYAzsrIM-02716-00690027-00690666 [Applause] FdIhkSWN6iy-00000-00000000-00000299 in mathematical finite group Theory the FdIhkSWN6iy-00001-00000300-00000553 Brower Fowler theorem proved by Brower FdIhkSWN6iy-00002-00000554-00000994 and Fowler 1955 states that if a group G FdIhkSWN6iy-00003-00000996-00001225 has even ordered G greater than two then FdIhkSWN6iy-00004-00001226-00001439 it has a proper subgroup of order FdIhkSWN6iy-00005-00001440-00001810 greater than G one-third the technique FdIhkSWN6iy-00006-00001811-00002048 of the proof is to count involutions FdIhkSWN6iy-00007-00002049-00002366 elements of order two in G perhaps more FdIhkSWN6iy-00008-00002367-00002582 important is another result that the FdIhkSWN6iy-00009-00002583-00002818 authors derive from the same count of FdIhkSWN6iy-00010-00002819-00003034 involutions namely that up to FdIhkSWN6iy-00011-00003035-00003263 isomorphism there are only a finite FdIhkSWN6iy-00012-00003264-00003527 number of finite simple groups with a FdIhkSWN6iy-00013-00003528-00003884 given centralizer of an involution this FdIhkSWN6iy-00014-00003885-00004106 suggested that finite simple groups FdIhkSWN6iy-00015-00004107-00004376 could be classified by studying their FdIhkSWN6iy-00016-00004377-00004652 centralizers of involutions and it led FdIhkSWN6iy-00017-00004653-00004895 to the discovery of several sporadic FdIhkSWN6iy-00018-00004896-00005284 groups later it motivated a part of the FdIhkSWN6iy-00019-00005285-00005714 classification of finite simple groups FdZovmZzYFA-00000-00000000-00000115 foreign FdZovmZzYFA-00001-00000117-00002934 [Music] FdZovmZzYFA-00002-00002935-00003209 me FdZovmZzYFA-00003-00003210-00005233 [Music] FdZovmZzYFA-00004-00005234-00005550 [Applause] FdZovmZzYFA-00005-00005551-00005982 [Music] FeI8PP2xVW8-00000-00000744-00000902 if i had any advice for FeI8PP2xVW8-00001-00000903-00001103 new students incoming students it would FeI8PP2xVW8-00002-00001104-00001254 definitely be treasure these four years FeI8PP2xVW8-00003-00001255-00001447 because they fly by before you know it FeI8PP2xVW8-00004-00001448-00001582 i feel like it was just yesterday that FeI8PP2xVW8-00005-00001583-00001718 we were walking around central park FeI8PP2xVW8-00006-00001719-00001807 doing FeI8PP2xVW8-00007-00001807-00002007 doing the uh the opening orientation FeI8PP2xVW8-00008-00002007-00002110 outward bound FeI8PP2xVW8-00009-00002111-00002271 and getting our laptops and going to see FeI8PP2xVW8-00010-00002272-00002479 south pacific and now we're here FeI8PP2xVW8-00011-00002480-00002679 just building us so many memories from FeI8PP2xVW8-00012-00002680-00002839 from seeing all the different artists FeI8PP2xVW8-00013-00002840-00002895 and FeI8PP2xVW8-00014-00002896-00003023 the other common events that we didn't FeI8PP2xVW8-00015-00003024-00003247 necessarily look forward to at that time FeI8PP2xVW8-00016-00003247-00003415 but looking back they definitely left an FeI8PP2xVW8-00017-00003415-00003559 impact so definitely treasure your time FeI8PP2xVW8-00018-00003560-00003679 here the best things that mccoy is FeI8PP2xVW8-00019-00003679-00003735 giving me good FeI8PP2xVW8-00020-00003736-00004111 good friends intellectual friends and FeI8PP2xVW8-00021-00004112-00004831 that is FeI8PP2xVW8-00022-00004832-00005151 really keep an open mind and uh try FeI8PP2xVW8-00023-00005152-00005335 new things i mean i'd never been out of FeI8PP2xVW8-00024-00005336-00005486 the country before before FeI8PP2xVW8-00025-00005487-00005759 going for a semester so uh macaulay FeI8PP2xVW8-00026-00005760-00005911 really it gives you the opportunity with FeI8PP2xVW8-00027-00005912-00005943 the FeI8PP2xVW8-00028-00005944-00006199 the fun so really get the chance even if FeI8PP2xVW8-00029-00006200-00006318 you go for a summer FeI8PP2xVW8-00030-00006319-00006951 or winter really go study abroad FeI8PP2xVW8-00031-00006952-00007175 hi my name is shawna kaufman i'm hunter FeI8PP2xVW8-00032-00007176-00007423 college class of 2012. FeI8PP2xVW8-00033-00007423-00007614 i did so much my opportunities fun first FeI8PP2xVW8-00034-00007615-00007791 i went to the galapagos ecuador FeI8PP2xVW8-00035-00007792-00007942 studied biology and evolution it was FeI8PP2xVW8-00036-00007943-00008110 awesome with this one FeI8PP2xVW8-00037-00008111-00008399 noah say hi and then i went to spain to FeI8PP2xVW8-00038-00008400-00008574 study spanish language and culture and FeI8PP2xVW8-00039-00008575-00008623 also FeI8PP2xVW8-00040-00008624-00008903 help pay for some of my grad school FeI8PP2xVW8-00041-00008904-00009095 applications so it was amazing FeI8PP2xVW8-00042-00009096-00009391 yeah the opportunity is fun hi my name FeI8PP2xVW8-00043-00009392-00009463 is noah FeI8PP2xVW8-00044-00009464-00009687 i'm also from the class of 2012 at FeI8PP2xVW8-00045-00009688-00009878 hunter i use my opportunities fun to go FeI8PP2xVW8-00046-00009879-00010087 to galapagos with shauna as well and i FeI8PP2xVW8-00047-00010088-00010255 went to brazil to volunteer FeI8PP2xVW8-00048-00010256-00010446 i would definitely recommend that the FeI8PP2xVW8-00049-00010447-00010591 upcoming class FeI8PP2xVW8-00050-00010592-00010814 the newcomer class use it to also FeI8PP2xVW8-00051-00010815-00010951 volunteer abroad because that was FeI8PP2xVW8-00052-00010952-00011119 probably the best experience and you FeI8PP2xVW8-00053-00011120-00011231 really get to know FeI8PP2xVW8-00054-00011232-00011519 the local people and culture when you're FeI8PP2xVW8-00055-00011520-00011655 really FeI8PP2xVW8-00056-00011656-00011878 involved in the community so i would FeI8PP2xVW8-00057-00011879-00011974 recommend that FeI8PP2xVW8-00058-00011975-00012287 hi i'm diego milano from lehman college FeI8PP2xVW8-00059-00012288-00012455 um i think one of the biggest things i FeI8PP2xVW8-00060-00012456-00012638 say to everyone is use this building as FeI8PP2xVW8-00061-00012639-00012799 much as you can FeI8PP2xVW8-00062-00012800-00012943 um i only really started to use it my FeI8PP2xVW8-00063-00012944-00013135 senior year and i regret that but um FeI8PP2xVW8-00064-00013136-00013286 it's wonderful you're gonna have a great FeI8PP2xVW8-00065-00013287-00013543 time joshua i went to lehman college FeI8PP2xVW8-00066-00013544-00013727 um i did a study abroad program in the FeI8PP2xVW8-00067-00013728-00013871 summer of 2010 FeI8PP2xVW8-00068-00013872-00014055 through this college of staten island i FeI8PP2xVW8-00069-00014056-00014230 went to middlesex university FeI8PP2xVW8-00070-00014231-00014438 in london and it was an amazing FeI8PP2xVW8-00071-00014440-00014543 experience FeI8PP2xVW8-00072-00014544-00014686 and you can't really get these things FeI8PP2xVW8-00073-00014687-00014855 through other FeI8PP2xVW8-00074-00014856-00015103 colleges because macaulay just they FeI8PP2xVW8-00075-00015104-00015199 treat you special FeI8PP2xVW8-00076-00015200-00015407 every individual student is given the FeI8PP2xVW8-00077-00015408-00015566 amount of time necessary to meet their FeI8PP2xVW8-00078-00015568-00015638 needs FeI8PP2xVW8-00079-00015640-00015791 and you don't really find that kind of FeI8PP2xVW8-00080-00015791-00016622 care in other places FeI8PP2xVW8-00081-00016623-00016807 my name is gloria cavallaro and i'm a FeI8PP2xVW8-00082-00016808-00016950 student at macaulay honors college at FeI8PP2xVW8-00083-00016951-00017094 queen's college and FeI8PP2xVW8-00084-00017095-00017367 one of my early memories of macaulay was FeI8PP2xVW8-00085-00017368-00017463 our FeI8PP2xVW8-00086-00017464-00017783 orientation where i met most of the FeI8PP2xVW8-00087-00017784-00017950 friends that i have kept FeI8PP2xVW8-00088-00017951-00018199 four years later and hope to keep long FeI8PP2xVW8-00089-00018200-00018319 after i graduate FeI8PP2xVW8-00090-00018320-00018558 to any incoming macaulay class is to FeI8PP2xVW8-00091-00018559-00018703 milk your opportunities fund for all FeI8PP2xVW8-00092-00018704-00018799 it's worth FeI8PP2xVW8-00093-00018800-00019103 i i got to study abroad three times with FeI8PP2xVW8-00094-00019104-00019350 my opportunities fund money i went to FeI8PP2xVW8-00095-00019351-00019519 to france i went to italy i went to FeI8PP2xVW8-00096-00019520-00019703 argentina and i didn't have to pay very FeI8PP2xVW8-00097-00019704-00019830 much my own money which was pretty FeI8PP2xVW8-00098-00019831-00019935 awesome FeI8PP2xVW8-00099-00019936-00020143 and uh other than that i would say use FeI8PP2xVW8-00100-00020144-00020279 the building at macaulay FeI8PP2xVW8-00101-00020280-00020463 when i was a freshman i use it all the FeI8PP2xVW8-00102-00020464-00020630 time to meet people from other campuses FeI8PP2xVW8-00103-00020631-00020686 and FeI8PP2xVW8-00104-00020687-00020999 have events so uh that's my advice and FeI8PP2xVW8-00105-00021000-00021183 i'm glad that i was able to do that at FeI8PP2xVW8-00106-00021184-00021511 macaulay FeI8PP2xVW8-00107-00021512-00021783 my name is katie allercon baruch college FeI8PP2xVW8-00108-00021784-00021967 class of 2012 FeI8PP2xVW8-00109-00021968-00022255 and i want to talk about my experience FeI8PP2xVW8-00110-00022256-00022543 of doing arts night for four years FeI8PP2xVW8-00111-00022544-00022750 if you don't know by now it was one of FeI8PP2xVW8-00112-00022751-00022886 the first student-run events FeI8PP2xVW8-00113-00022887-00023071 and i'm always very proud to talk about FeI8PP2xVW8-00114-00023072-00023286 it and it's continuing even after i FeI8PP2xVW8-00115-00023287-00023383 graduate FeI8PP2xVW8-00116-00023384-00023599 with students over at least 100 students FeI8PP2xVW8-00117-00023600-00023758 submitting artwork every year FeI8PP2xVW8-00118-00023759-00024022 and over 200 to 300 people attending FeI8PP2xVW8-00119-00024023-00024150 every year FeI8PP2xVW8-00120-00024151-00024319 i'm just very happy that macaulay gave FeI8PP2xVW8-00121-00024320-00024511 me the opportunity and resources to plan FeI8PP2xVW8-00122-00024512-00024614 such an event FeI8PP2xVW8-00123-00024615-00024783 and to get the chance to meet people FeI8PP2xVW8-00124-00024784-00024950 that share my same interests FeI8PP2xVW8-00125-00024951-00025239 i really couldn't have expanded my FeI8PP2xVW8-00126-00025240-00025319 education FeI8PP2xVW8-00127-00025320-00025606 and my ability to find people that love FeI8PP2xVW8-00128-00025607-00026431 art without macaulay so thank you FeI8PP2xVW8-00129-00026432-00026655 i'm shashana korman and i'm about to FeI8PP2xVW8-00130-00026656-00026870 graduate from macaulay honors college FeI8PP2xVW8-00131-00026872-00027151 and i am from the campus of queens FeI8PP2xVW8-00132-00027152-00027231 college FeI8PP2xVW8-00133-00027232-00027455 a little bit of advice that i'd like to FeI8PP2xVW8-00134-00027456-00027590 give to future FeI8PP2xVW8-00135-00027591-00027783 or prospective students is really to FeI8PP2xVW8-00136-00027783-00027911 take advantage of FeI8PP2xVW8-00137-00027912-00028095 the opportu opportunities that queen's FeI8PP2xVW8-00138-00028095-00028270 college has to offer and macaulay honors FeI8PP2xVW8-00139-00028272-00028374 college has to offer FeI8PP2xVW8-00140-00028375-00028662 especially the opportunities fund i FeI8PP2xVW8-00141-00028663-00028743 happened to go FeI8PP2xVW8-00142-00028744-00028911 study abroad in the galapagos islands FeI8PP2xVW8-00143-00028912-00029087 which changed my college experience FeI8PP2xVW8-00144-00029088-00029158 drastically FeI8PP2xVW8-00145-00029160-00029374 so take advantage of it without the FeI8PP2xVW8-00146-00029375-00029518 macaulay honors college i wouldn't have FeI8PP2xVW8-00147-00029519-00029687 been able to study abroad in london FeI8PP2xVW8-00148-00029688-00029774 england FeI8PP2xVW8-00149-00029775-00030014 which is where i was for six months FeI8PP2xVW8-00150-00030016-00030246 doing community development and social FeI8PP2xVW8-00151-00030247-00030423 justice organizing FeI8PP2xVW8-00152-00030424-00030711 i was so fortunate also to be able to do FeI8PP2xVW8-00153-00030712-00030790 an internship FeI8PP2xVW8-00154-00030791-00031143 after that in in tel aviv in workers FeI8PP2xVW8-00155-00031144-00031223 rights FeI8PP2xVW8-00156-00031224-00031414 now one of my earliest memories at FeI8PP2xVW8-00157-00031416-00031614 macaulay was the day we received our FeI8PP2xVW8-00158-00031616-00031718 laptops FeI8PP2xVW8-00159-00031719-00031887 and i kind of remember just waiting for FeI8PP2xVW8-00160-00031888-00032095 my name to be called trembling FeI8PP2xVW8-00161-00032095-00032255 and then walking up and just getting FeI8PP2xVW8-00162-00032256-00032479 handed a laptop and i think FeI8PP2xVW8-00163-00032480-00032727 from that moment my lesson is also my FeI8PP2xVW8-00164-00032727-00032951 advice to future macaulay graduates FeI8PP2xVW8-00165-00032952-00033143 it's that take what you're getting take FeI8PP2xVW8-00166-00033144-00033302 the opportunities you're getting and run FeI8PP2xVW8-00167-00033303-00033479 with them run with them far because you FeI8PP2xVW8-00168-00033480-00033559 get so many FeI8PP2xVW8-00169-00033560-00033783 opportunities and you just have to take FeI8PP2xVW8-00170-00033784-00033871 them so FeI8PP2xVW8-00171-00033872-00034118 congratulations to the class of 2012 and FeI8PP2xVW8-00172-00034119-00035590 good luck to all future graduates FeI8PP2xVW8-00173-00035591-00035800 you Fgu1ehM-pAg-00000-00000052-00000338 aras deeds the athenian also saint aris Fgu1ehM-pAg-00001-00000339-00000555 deeds or marcy andesaurus deeds greek Fgu1ehM-pAg-00002-00000556-00000780 aris tides Marciano's was a second Fgu1ehM-pAg-00003-00000781-00000953 century Christian Greek author who is Fgu1ehM-pAg-00004-00000954-00001134 primarily known as the author of the Fgu1ehM-pAg-00005-00001135-00001434 apology of our steeds his feast day is Fgu1ehM-pAg-00006-00001435-00001689 August 31st in Roman Catholicism and Fgu1ehM-pAg-00007-00001689-00002227 September 13th in Eastern Orthodoxy Fgu1ehM-pAg-00008-00002228-00002757 topic biography Fgu1ehM-pAg-00009-00002758-00003068 topic very little is known of our Fgu1ehM-pAg-00010-00003069-00003242 estates except for the introductory Fgu1ehM-pAg-00011-00003243-00003443 information given by Eusebius of Fgu1ehM-pAg-00012-00003444-00003725 Caesarea and Saint Jerome according to Fgu1ehM-pAg-00013-00003726-00003900 their account aris deeds practiced Fgu1ehM-pAg-00014-00003901-00004088 philosophy in athens where he lived Fgu1ehM-pAg-00015-00004089-00004275 prior to and after his conversion to Fgu1ehM-pAg-00016-00004276-00004563 christianity Eusebius writes in his Fgu1ehM-pAg-00017-00004564-00004803 ecclesiastical history our wrist EADS Fgu1ehM-pAg-00018-00004804-00005085 also a faithful disciple of our religion Fgu1ehM-pAg-00019-00005086-00005277 has left an apology of the faith Fgu1ehM-pAg-00020-00005278-00005652 dedicated to Hadrian Eusebius and Jerome Fgu1ehM-pAg-00021-00005653-00005864 both state that the apology was given to Fgu1ehM-pAg-00022-00005865-00006075 Hadrian at the same time that quadratus Fgu1ehM-pAg-00023-00006076-00006333 delivered his own apology this suggests Fgu1ehM-pAg-00024-00006334-00006548 that our wrist EADS gave his apology Fgu1ehM-pAg-00025-00006550-00007080 during Hadrian s reign are 117 to 138 as Fgu1ehM-pAg-00026-00007081-00007290 emperor of Rome which supports the Fgu1ehM-pAg-00027-00007291-00007512 theory of our estates died between the Fgu1ehM-pAg-00028-00007513-00008084 years 133 to 134 ad it is also supported Fgu1ehM-pAg-00029-00008086-00008352 by the Express language of the apology Fgu1ehM-pAg-00030-00008353-00008601 in the Armenian version it is Fgu1ehM-pAg-00031-00008602-00008793 contradicted only by the second Fgu1ehM-pAg-00032-00008794-00009006 superscription to the Syriac version Fgu1ehM-pAg-00033-00009007-00009240 which says that the apology was given to Fgu1ehM-pAg-00034-00009241-00009552 Emperor Antoninus Pius in the year 140 Fgu1ehM-pAg-00035-00009553-00009819 if this is taken to mean that it was Fgu1ehM-pAg-00036-00009820-00010055 delivered in person by our estates it Fgu1ehM-pAg-00037-00010056-00010268 would rule out the dating of eros divas Fgu1ehM-pAg-00038-00010269-00010866 s death in 133 to 134 AD it has been Fgu1ehM-pAg-00039-00010867-00011096 suggested that Eusebius was confused by Fgu1ehM-pAg-00040-00011097-00011310 the fact that Antoninus Pius had adopted Fgu1ehM-pAg-00041-00011311-00011669 the name had rhiness Caesar Titus Elias Fgu1ehM-pAg-00042-00011670-00011916 had rhiness Antoninus Augustus Pius and Fgu1ehM-pAg-00043-00011917-00012077 believed it was Hadrian to whom the Fgu1ehM-pAg-00044-00012078-00012249 apology was given and further that Fgu1ehM-pAg-00045-00012250-00012438 Jerome had never read the apology and Fgu1ehM-pAg-00046-00012439-00012680 copied Eusebius his mistake accidentally Fgu1ehM-pAg-00047-00012681-00012957 but Jerome tells us that the apology was Fgu1ehM-pAg-00048-00012958-00013133 extant in his day and he gives an Fgu1ehM-pAg-00049-00013134-00013410 account of its contents the testimony of Fgu1ehM-pAg-00050-00013411-00013626 Eusebius and Jerome and the text of the Fgu1ehM-pAg-00051-00013627-00013838 Armenian version are all in favor of its Fgu1ehM-pAg-00052-00013840-00014046 being delivered to Hadrian probably in Fgu1ehM-pAg-00053-00014047-00014688 circa 124 to 125 ad Fgu1ehM-pAg-00054-00014690-00015197 topic writings Fgu1ehM-pAg-00055-00015199-00015563 topic Fgu1ehM-pAg-00056-00015563-00016137 topic the apology of our steeds Fgu1ehM-pAg-00057-00016138-00016599 topic in 1878 an Armenian fragment of an Fgu1ehM-pAg-00058-00016600-00016821 apology titled to emperor hadrian Caesar Fgu1ehM-pAg-00059-00016822-00016995 from the Athenian philosopher our Fgu1ehM-pAg-00060-00016996-00017157 esteems was published by the mecha Fgu1ehM-pAg-00061-00017158-00017376 tourists of San lázaro in Venice from a Fgu1ehM-pAg-00062-00017377-00017649 tenth century manuscript the armenian Fgu1ehM-pAg-00063-00017650-00017829 translation was accepted by most Fgu1ehM-pAg-00064-00017830-00018066 scholars as the long-lost apology of our Fgu1ehM-pAg-00065-00018067-00018294 estates however a few did dispute its Fgu1ehM-pAg-00066-00018295-00018501 authenticity most notably ernest renan Fgu1ehM-pAg-00067-00018502-00018732 in 1889 Fgu1ehM-pAg-00068-00018733-00018903 the authenticity of the fragment was Fgu1ehM-pAg-00069-00018904-00019059 confirmed with the discovery of a Fgu1ehM-pAg-00070-00019060-00019248 complete Syriac translation of the Fgu1ehM-pAg-00071-00019249-00019431 apology by British scholar Rendell Fgu1ehM-pAg-00072-00019432-00019641 Harris in the monastery of st. Catherine Fgu1ehM-pAg-00073-00019642-00019953 on Mount Sinai with this new discovery J Fgu1ehM-pAg-00074-00019954-00020235 a Robinson was able to show eros Tevas Fgu1ehM-pAg-00075-00020236-00020442 work had been in fact extant and edited Fgu1ehM-pAg-00076-00020443-00020595 in the religious book the life of Fgu1ehM-pAg-00077-00020596-00020855 barliman Josaphat since the 7th century Fgu1ehM-pAg-00078-00020856-00021075 another fragment of the apology Fgu1ehM-pAg-00079-00021076-00021324 containing two portions of original text Fgu1ehM-pAg-00080-00021325-00021579 in greek was published in 1922 by the Fgu1ehM-pAg-00081-00021580-00021900 british museum on papyrus the apology of Fgu1ehM-pAg-00082-00021901-00022080 ära steve's as the oldest extant Fgu1ehM-pAg-00083-00022081-00022284 christian apology since only a fragment Fgu1ehM-pAg-00084-00022285-00022548 of the older apology of quadratus exists Fgu1ehM-pAg-00085-00022549-00022812 in the 1889 Syriac translation ARA Fgu1ehM-pAg-00086-00022813-00023046 Steves begins his apology by stating his Fgu1ehM-pAg-00087-00023047-00023202 name where he is from and that he is Fgu1ehM-pAg-00088-00023203-00023478 delivering it to Antoninus Pius in the Fgu1ehM-pAg-00089-00023479-00023715 first chapter he proclaims God exists Fgu1ehM-pAg-00090-00023716-00023912 because the world exists in the goddess Fgu1ehM-pAg-00091-00023913-00024294 eternal impassable and perfect in the Fgu1ehM-pAg-00092-00024295-00024375 second chapter Fgu1ehM-pAg-00093-00024376-00024558 he writes that there are four races of Fgu1ehM-pAg-00094-00024559-00024783 the world one barbarians two Greeks Fgu1ehM-pAg-00095-00024784-00025029 includes Egyptians and Chaldeans three Fgu1ehM-pAg-00096-00025030-00025215 Jews and for Christians Fgu1ehM-pAg-00097-00025216-00025524 he then devotes chapters 3 to 16 to Fgu1ehM-pAg-00098-00025525-00025677 describing the different groups of Fgu1ehM-pAg-00099-00025677-00025853 people and how they practice religion Fgu1ehM-pAg-00100-00025854-00026199 the barbarians chapters 3 to 7 worship Fgu1ehM-pAg-00101-00026200-00026373 dead warriors and the elements of the Fgu1ehM-pAg-00102-00026374-00026532 earth which he claims are the works of Fgu1ehM-pAg-00103-00026533-00026712 God therefore they do not know who the Fgu1ehM-pAg-00104-00026713-00027048 true God s the Greeks chapters 8 to 13 Fgu1ehM-pAg-00105-00027049-00027327 are next because Fgu1ehM-pAg-00106-00027327-00027627 less than pre greater than slash pre Fgu1ehM-pAg-00107-00027629-00027838 greater than dot-dot-dot they are wiser Fgu1ehM-pAg-00108-00027839-00028075 than the barbarians but have erred even Fgu1ehM-pAg-00109-00028076-00028261 more than the barbarians in that they Fgu1ehM-pAg-00110-00028262-00028470 have introduced many gods that are made Fgu1ehM-pAg-00111-00028472-00028677 and some of them they have represented Fgu1ehM-pAg-00112-00028679-00028900 as male and some of them as female and Fgu1ehM-pAg-00113-00028901-00029089 in such a way that some of their gods Fgu1ehM-pAg-00114-00029089-00029266 were found to be adulterers and Fgu1ehM-pAg-00115-00029267-00029491 murderers and jealous and envious and Fgu1ehM-pAg-00116-00029492-00029704 angry and passionate and murderers of Fgu1ehM-pAg-00117-00029705-00030070 fathers and thieves and plunderers Fgu1ehM-pAg-00118-00030071-00030304 in other words our esteems is calling Fgu1ehM-pAg-00119-00030305-00030493 the Greek gods corrupt immoral and Fgu1ehM-pAg-00120-00030494-00030745 guilty of being human he concludes his Fgu1ehM-pAg-00121-00030746-00030946 chapters on the Greeks by commenting on Fgu1ehM-pAg-00122-00030947-00031126 the religious beliefs of the Egyptians Fgu1ehM-pAg-00123-00031127-00031276 who he claims are the most ignorant Fgu1ehM-pAg-00124-00031277-00031423 people on earth since they did not Fgu1ehM-pAg-00125-00031424-00031600 accept the beliefs of the Greeks or Fgu1ehM-pAg-00126-00031601-00031786 Chaldeans and instead worshipped God's Fgu1ehM-pAg-00127-00031787-00032062 modeled after plants and animals the Fgu1ehM-pAg-00128-00032063-00032332 Jews chapter 14 are only commented on in Fgu1ehM-pAg-00129-00032333-00032560 a concise manner our wrists deeds Fgu1ehM-pAg-00130-00032561-00032725 commends them for their worship of God Fgu1ehM-pAg-00131-00032726-00032929 as the Creator and Almighty but claims Fgu1ehM-pAg-00132-00032930-00033238 they have gone astray because their Fgu1ehM-pAg-00133-00033239-00033485 services to angels and not to God in Fgu1ehM-pAg-00134-00033486-00033667 that they observe Sabbath's and New Fgu1ehM-pAg-00135-00033668-00033868 Moon's and the Passover and their great Fgu1ehM-pAg-00136-00033869-00034141 fast and the fast and circumcision and Fgu1ehM-pAg-00137-00034142-00034357 cleanness of meats which things not even Fgu1ehM-pAg-00138-00034358-00034644 thus have they perfectly observed in Fgu1ehM-pAg-00139-00034645-00034996 chapters 15 and 16 aras deeds describes Fgu1ehM-pAg-00140-00034997-00035164 the commandments of God and claims Fgu1ehM-pAg-00141-00035165-00035395 Christians walk in all humility and Fgu1ehM-pAg-00142-00035396-00035629 kindness and falsehood is not found Fgu1ehM-pAg-00143-00035630-00035838 among them and they love one another Fgu1ehM-pAg-00144-00035839-00036193 he explains they ask from him petitions Fgu1ehM-pAg-00145-00036194-00036400 which are proper for him to give and for Fgu1ehM-pAg-00146-00036401-00036547 them to receive and thus they Fgu1ehM-pAg-00147-00036548-00036756 accomplished the course of their lives Fgu1ehM-pAg-00148-00036757-00037075 he concludes the apology in Chapter 17 Fgu1ehM-pAg-00149-00037076-00037264 by requesting the Emperor to stop Fgu1ehM-pAg-00150-00037265-00037454 persecuting the Christians and convert Fgu1ehM-pAg-00151-00037455-00037621 to their faith where he ends with a nice Fgu1ehM-pAg-00152-00037622-00038062 description of the Christian life Fgu1ehM-pAg-00153-00038063-00038561 topic other works Fgu1ehM-pAg-00154-00038562-00038891 topic it has been suggested that our Fgu1ehM-pAg-00155-00038892-00039077 Steve's is the author of the Epistle to Fgu1ehM-pAg-00156-00039078-00039368 diognetus this theory is supported by Fgu1ehM-pAg-00157-00039369-00039596 similar writing styles descriptions of Fgu1ehM-pAg-00158-00039597-00039815 Christians the treatment of Jews as well Fgu1ehM-pAg-00159-00039816-00040148 as other similarities AB aah dulcet was Fgu1ehM-pAg-00160-00040149-00040316 primarily the leading voice of this Fgu1ehM-pAg-00161-00040317-00040601 theory in the late 19th century the Fgu1ehM-pAg-00162-00040602-00040805 Epistle to diognetus has been credited Fgu1ehM-pAg-00163-00040806-00040973 to Justin Martyr but without any Fgu1ehM-pAg-00164-00040974-00041273 sufficient evidence Aris deeds is also Fgu1ehM-pAg-00165-00041274-00041444 credited with a sermon on Luke chapter Fgu1ehM-pAg-00166-00041445-00041980 23 verse 43 Fgu1ehM-pAg-00167-00041981-00042546 topic contribution to other authors Fgu1ehM-pAg-00168-00042547-00042911 topic Fgu1ehM-pAg-00169-00042912-00043478 topic relation to contemporaries Fgu1ehM-pAg-00170-00043479-00043820 topic aris needs as the second greek Fgu1ehM-pAg-00171-00043821-00044003 christian apologetic of the second Fgu1ehM-pAg-00172-00044004-00044303 century his writing style and thesis are Fgu1ehM-pAg-00173-00044304-00044507 very similar to the likes of quadratus Fgu1ehM-pAg-00174-00044508-00044732 Aristo of Pella Justin Martyr and the Fgu1ehM-pAg-00175-00044733-00044920 author of the Epistle to diognetus Fgu1ehM-pAg-00176-00044921-00045230 Jerome suggests Sara Steve's apology was Fgu1ehM-pAg-00177-00045231-00045437 the combined opinions of philosophers at Fgu1ehM-pAg-00178-00045438-00045641 the time and imitated by Justin Martyr Fgu1ehM-pAg-00179-00045642-00045944 afterwards negatively Celsus used the Fgu1ehM-pAg-00180-00045945-00046136 apology for his arguments against the Fgu1ehM-pAg-00181-00046137-00046397 jews and also certain features which he Fgu1ehM-pAg-00182-00046398-00046663 used in order to scoff at Providence Fgu1ehM-pAg-00183-00046664-00046913 however he was easily countered by Fgu1ehM-pAg-00184-00046914-00047292 Origen Fgu1ehM-pAg-00185-00047293-00047802 topic influence on later writing Fgu1ehM-pAg-00186-00047803-00048177 topic the apology of our STDs was later Fgu1ehM-pAg-00187-00048178-00048348 adapted into the work the life of Fgu1ehM-pAg-00188-00048349-00048573 barliman Josaphat during the 7th century Fgu1ehM-pAg-00189-00048574-00048870 in the book the apology is told by a Fgu1ehM-pAg-00190-00048871-00049086 pagan philosopher by the name of mature Fgu1ehM-pAg-00191-00049087-00049285 a character in The Legend of barliman Fgu1ehM-pAg-00192-00049286-00049596 Josaphat the unknown use of the apology Fgu1ehM-pAg-00193-00049597-00049764 in the book allowed for the text to Fgu1ehM-pAg-00194-00049765-00049938 remain extant the entire time and Fgu1ehM-pAg-00195-00049939-00050095 influence Christian perception of Fgu1ehM-pAg-00196-00050096-00050346 Buddhism only with the rediscovery of Fgu1ehM-pAg-00197-00050347-00050707 the apology in 1878 in 1889 did it Fgu1ehM-pAg-00198-00050708-00051001 reappear in history books Rendell Harris Fgu1ehM-pAg-00199-00051002-00051300 J a Robinson and few European scholars Fgu1ehM-pAg-00200-00051301-00051523 provided some commentary and studies of Fgu1ehM-pAg-00201-00051524-00051760 the text in the late 19th and early 20th Fgu1ehM-pAg-00202-00051761-00052014 centuries there has been little Fgu1ehM-pAg-00203-00052015-00052221 revisionist history on the apology of Fgu1ehM-pAg-00204-00052222-00052534 late except for an article by G Co C lie Fgu1ehM-pAg-00205-00052535-00052917 in 1958 he suggested the apology was a Fgu1ehM-pAg-00206-00052919-00053146 Jewish work of the second century and Fgu1ehM-pAg-00207-00053147-00053367 was then edited by a Christian writer in Fgu1ehM-pAg-00208-00053369-00053554 the 4th century to be a Christian Fgu1ehM-pAg-00209-00053554-00053841 apology W Fairweather Fgu1ehM-pAg-00210-00053842-00054144 DW Palmer and Massey Hamilton Shepard Fgu1ehM-pAg-00211-00054145-00054400 jr. have used the apology of our steeds Fgu1ehM-pAg-00212-00054401-00054750 and other apologists works in order to Fgu1ehM-pAg-00213-00054751-00054910 support their theories on early Fgu1ehM-pAg-00214-00054911-00055104 Christian thought and Greek apologists Fgu1ehM-pAg-00215-00055105-00055623 of the second century Fgu1ehM-pAg-00216-00055624-00056039 see also Fgu1ehM-pAg-00217-00056040-00056410 topic apology of our wrist EADS Fgu1ehM-pAg-00218-00056411-00056776 Christian apologetics early centers of Fgu1ehM-pAg-00219-00056777-00057284 Christianity hashtag Greece Fgu1ehM-pAg-00220-00057285-00057801 topic references Fgu1ehM-pAg-00221-00057802-00058171 topic Fgu1ehM-pAg-00222-00058172-00058665 topic citations Fgu1ehM-pAg-00223-00058666-00059034 topic Fgu1ehM-pAg-00224-00059035-00059516 topic sources Fgu1ehM-pAg-00225-00059516-00059913 topic Fgu1ehM-pAg-00226-00059914-00060429 topic further reading Fgu1ehM-pAg-00227-00060429-00060927 topic alton er Berthold 1960 petrology Fgu1ehM-pAg-00228-00060928-00061480 New York / Durand herder Fgu1ehM-pAg-00229-00061482-00062024 topic external links Fgu1ehM-pAg-00230-00062025-00062489 topic translation of 1891 Syriac version Fgu1ehM-pAg-00231-00062490-00062840 of the apology of our estates Fhr4vVurzsM-00000-00000057-00000388 Clement Greenberg occasionally writing Fhr4vVurzsM-00001-00000389-00000760 under the pseudonym K har - January 16th Fhr4vVurzsM-00002-00000761-00001228 1909 to May 7th 1994 was an American Fhr4vVurzsM-00003-00001229-00001457 essayist known mainly as an influential Fhr4vVurzsM-00004-00001458-00001751 visual art critic closely associated Fhr4vVurzsM-00005-00001752-00002039 with American modern art of the mid 20th Fhr4vVurzsM-00006-00002039-00002284 century and a formalist he's thirty ssin Fhr4vVurzsM-00007-00002285-00002636 in particular he is best remembered for Fhr4vVurzsM-00008-00002637-00002828 his promotion of the abstract Fhr4vVurzsM-00009-00002829-00003077 expressionist movement and was among the Fhr4vVurzsM-00010-00003078-00003299 first published critics to praise the Fhr4vVurzsM-00011-00003300-00004059 work of painter Jackson Pollock Fhr4vVurzsM-00012-00004060-00004654 topic early life Fhr4vVurzsM-00013-00004655-00004906 Clement Greenberg was born in the Fhr4vVurzsM-00014-00004907-00005311 borough of the Bronx NYC in 1909 Fhr4vVurzsM-00015-00005312-00005618 his parents were middle-class Jewish Fhr4vVurzsM-00016-00005619-00005863 immigrants and he was the eldest of Fhr4vVurzsM-00017-00005864-00006202 their three sons since childhood Fhr4vVurzsM-00018-00006203-00006520 greenberg sketched compulsively until Fhr4vVurzsM-00019-00006522-00006781 becoming a young adult when he began to Fhr4vVurzsM-00020-00006783-00007193 focus on literature Greenberg attended Fhr4vVurzsM-00021-00007194-00007471 Erasmus Hall High School the Marquand Fhr4vVurzsM-00022-00007472-00007613 school for boys Fhr4vVurzsM-00023-00007614-00007934 then Syracuse University graduating with Fhr4vVurzsM-00024-00007934-00008279 an a/b in 1930 laude a Phi Beta Fhr4vVurzsM-00025-00008280-00008735 Kappa after college already as fluent in Fhr4vVurzsM-00026-00008736-00008938 Yiddish as English since childhood Fhr4vVurzsM-00027-00008939-00009224 Greenberg taught himself Italian and Fhr4vVurzsM-00028-00009225-00009516 German in addition to French and Latin Fhr4vVurzsM-00029-00009517-00009833 during the next few years Greenberg Fhr4vVurzsM-00030-00009834-00010052 traveled the u.s. working for his Fhr4vVurzsM-00031-00010053-00010321 father's dry goods business but the work Fhr4vVurzsM-00032-00010322-00010610 did not suit his inclinations so he Fhr4vVurzsM-00033-00010611-00010891 turned to working as a translator Fhr4vVurzsM-00034-00010892-00011327 Greenberg married in 1934 had a son the Fhr4vVurzsM-00035-00011328-00011555 next year and was divorced the year Fhr4vVurzsM-00036-00011556-00012049 after that in 1936 Greenberg took a Fhr4vVurzsM-00037-00012050-00012242 series of jobs with the federal Fhr4vVurzsM-00038-00012243-00012451 government from civil service Fhr4vVurzsM-00039-00012452-00012649 administration to the Veterans Fhr4vVurzsM-00040-00012650-00012877 Administration and finally to the Fhr4vVurzsM-00041-00012878-00013085 appraises division of the Customs Fhr4vVurzsM-00042-00013086-00013487 Service in 1937 it was then that Fhr4vVurzsM-00043-00013488-00013790 Greenberg began to write seriously and Fhr4vVurzsM-00044-00013791-00014050 soon after began getting published in a Fhr4vVurzsM-00045-00014051-00014318 handful of small magazines and literary Fhr4vVurzsM-00046-00014319-00014950 journals Fhr4vVurzsM-00047-00014951-00015627 topic avant-garde and kitsch Fhr4vVurzsM-00048-00015628-00015915 though his first published essays dealt Fhr4vVurzsM-00049-00015916-00016163 mainly with literature and theater art Fhr4vVurzsM-00050-00016165-00016416 still held a powerful attraction for Fhr4vVurzsM-00051-00016417-00016791 Greenberg sir in 1939 he made a sudden Fhr4vVurzsM-00052-00016792-00017019 name as a visual art brighter with Fhr4vVurzsM-00053-00017020-00017256 possibly his most well-known and oft Fhr4vVurzsM-00054-00017257-00017588 quoted essay avant-garde and Kitsch Fhr4vVurzsM-00055-00017589-00017925 first published in the journal partisan Fhr4vVurzsM-00056-00017926-00018279 review in this Marxist influenced essay Fhr4vVurzsM-00057-00018280-00018546 Greenberg claimed that true avant-garde Fhr4vVurzsM-00058-00018547-00018789 art is a product of the Enlightenment Fhr4vVurzsM-00059-00018790-00019059 revolution of critical thinking and as Fhr4vVurzsM-00060-00019060-00019284 such resists and recoils from the Fhr4vVurzsM-00061-00019285-00019485 degradation of culture in both Fhr4vVurzsM-00062-00019486-00019737 mainstream capitalist and communist Fhr4vVurzsM-00063-00019738-00020010 society while acknowledging the paradox Fhr4vVurzsM-00064-00020011-00020268 that at the same time the artists Fhr4vVurzsM-00065-00020269-00020514 dependent on the market or the state Fhr4vVurzsM-00066-00020515-00020835 remains inexorably attached by an Fhr4vVurzsM-00067-00020836-00021237 umbilical cord of gold kitsch on the Fhr4vVurzsM-00068-00021238-00021449 other hand was the product of Fhr4vVurzsM-00069-00021450-00021717 industrialization and the urbanization Fhr4vVurzsM-00070-00021718-00021966 of the working class a filler made for Fhr4vVurzsM-00071-00021967-00022197 the consumption of the working-class a Fhr4vVurzsM-00072-00022198-00022455 populace hungry for culture but without Fhr4vVurzsM-00073-00022456-00022722 the resources and education to enjoy Fhr4vVurzsM-00074-00022723-00022997 cutting edge of OnGuard culture Fhr4vVurzsM-00075-00022998-00023282 Greenberg writes Fhr4vVurzsM-00076-00023283-00023591 kitch using for raw material the debased Fhr4vVurzsM-00077-00023592-00023951 an academic simulator of genuine culture Fhr4vVurzsM-00078-00023952-00024170 welcomes and cultivates this in Fhr4vVurzsM-00079-00024171-00024503 sensibility it is the source of its Fhr4vVurzsM-00080-00024504-00024806 profits Kitsch is mechanical and Fhr4vVurzsM-00081-00024807-00025187 operates by formulas Kitsch is vicarious Fhr4vVurzsM-00082-00025188-00025550 experience and faked sensations Kitsch Fhr4vVurzsM-00083-00025551-00025832 changes according to style but remains Fhr4vVurzsM-00084-00025833-00026150 always the same Kitsch is the epitome of Fhr4vVurzsM-00085-00026151-00026393 all that is spurious in the life of our Fhr4vVurzsM-00086-00026394-00026762 times Kitsch pretends to demand nothing Fhr4vVurzsM-00087-00026763-00027047 of its customers except their money not Fhr4vVurzsM-00088-00027048-00027391 even their time for Greenberg Fhr4vVurzsM-00089-00027392-00027830 avant-garde art was too innocent to be Fhr4vVurzsM-00090-00027831-00028108 effectively used as propaganda or bent Fhr4vVurzsM-00091-00028110-00028339 to a cause while Kitsch was ideal for Fhr4vVurzsM-00092-00028341-00028789 stirring up full sentiment Greenberg Fhr4vVurzsM-00093-00028789-00029201 appropriated the German word Kitsch to Fhr4vVurzsM-00094-00029202-00029500 describe this low concocted form of Fhr4vVurzsM-00095-00029501-00029831 culture though its connotations have Fhr4vVurzsM-00096-00029832-00030077 since been recast to a more affirmative Fhr4vVurzsM-00097-00030077-00030377 acceptance of nostalgic materials of Fhr4vVurzsM-00098-00030377-00031137 capitalist communist culture Fhr4vVurzsM-00099-00031138-00031590 topic art history abstract expressionism Fhr4vVurzsM-00100-00031591-00032055 and after Fhr4vVurzsM-00101-00032056-00032358 Greenberg wrote several seminal essays Fhr4vVurzsM-00102-00032360-00032635 that defined his views on art history in Fhr4vVurzsM-00103-00032636-00032898 the 20th century Fhr4vVurzsM-00104-00032899-00033318 in 1940 Greenberg joined partisan review Fhr4vVurzsM-00105-00033319-00033630 as an editor he became art critic for Fhr4vVurzsM-00106-00033631-00034023 the nation in 1942 he was associate Fhr4vVurzsM-00107-00034024-00034415 editor of commentary from 1945 until Fhr4vVurzsM-00108-00034416-00034845 1957 in December 1950 he joined the Fhr4vVurzsM-00109-00034846-00035100 government-funded American Committee for Fhr4vVurzsM-00110-00035101-00035436 cultural freedom Greenberg believed Fhr4vVurzsM-00111-00035437-00035724 modernism provided a critical commentary Fhr4vVurzsM-00112-00035725-00036081 on experience it was constantly changing Fhr4vVurzsM-00113-00036082-00036351 to adapt to kitsch pseudo culture which Fhr4vVurzsM-00114-00036352-00036699 was itself always developing in the Fhr4vVurzsM-00115-00036700-00036978 years after World War two Greenberg Fhr4vVurzsM-00116-00036979-00037197 pushed the position that the best of Fhr4vVurzsM-00117-00037198-00037464 OnGuard artists were emerging in America Fhr4vVurzsM-00118-00037465-00037815 rather than Europe particularly he Fhr4vVurzsM-00119-00037816-00038031 championed Jackson Pollock as the Fhr4vVurzsM-00120-00038032-00038258 greatest painter of his generation Fhr4vVurzsM-00121-00038259-00038618 commemorating the artists all over Fhr4vVurzsM-00122-00038619-00039107 gestural canvases in the 1955 essay Fhr4vVurzsM-00123-00039108-00039462 American type painting Greenberg Fhr4vVurzsM-00124-00039463-00039669 promoted the work of Abstract Fhr4vVurzsM-00125-00039670-00039948 Expressionists among em Jackson Pollock Fhr4vVurzsM-00126-00039949-00040089 Willem de Kooning Fhr4vVurzsM-00127-00040090-00040416 Hans Hofmann Barnett Newman and Clifford Fhr4vVurzsM-00128-00040417-00040719 still as the next stage in modernist art Fhr4vVurzsM-00129-00040720-00040974 arguing that these painters were moving Fhr4vVurzsM-00130-00040975-00041232 towards greater emphasis on the flatness Fhr4vVurzsM-00131-00041233-00041643 of the picture plane Greenberg helped to Fhr4vVurzsM-00132-00041644-00041882 articulate a concept of medium Fhr4vVurzsM-00133-00041883-00042192 specificity it posited that there were Fhr4vVurzsM-00134-00042193-00042423 inherent qualities specific to each Fhr4vVurzsM-00135-00042424-00042708 different artistic medium and part of Fhr4vVurzsM-00136-00042709-00042930 the modernist project involved creating Fhr4vVurzsM-00137-00042931-00043143 artworks that were more and more Fhr4vVurzsM-00138-00043144-00043407 committed to their particular medium in Fhr4vVurzsM-00139-00043408-00043755 the case of painting the two-dimensional Fhr4vVurzsM-00140-00043756-00043986 reality of their medium lead to an Fhr4vVurzsM-00141-00043987-00044229 increasing emphasis on flatness in Fhr4vVurzsM-00142-00044230-00044445 contrast with the illusion of depth Fhr4vVurzsM-00143-00044446-00044691 commonly found in painting since the Fhr4vVurzsM-00144-00044692-00044883 Renaissance and the invention of Fhr4vVurzsM-00145-00044884-00045158 pictorial perspective Fhr4vVurzsM-00146-00045159-00045479 in Greenberg's view after World War two Fhr4vVurzsM-00147-00045480-00045710 the United States had become the Fhr4vVurzsM-00148-00045711-00046055 guardian of advanced art he praised Fhr4vVurzsM-00149-00046056-00046319 similar movements abroad and after the Fhr4vVurzsM-00150-00046320-00046642 success of the painters 11 exhibition in Fhr4vVurzsM-00151-00046643-00047000 1956 with the American abstract artists Fhr4vVurzsM-00152-00047001-00047240 at New York's Riverside gallery he Fhr4vVurzsM-00153-00047241-00047471 traveled to Toronto to see the group's Fhr4vVurzsM-00154-00047472-00047887 work in 1957 he was particularly Fhr4vVurzsM-00155-00047888-00048146 impressed by the potential of painters Fhr4vVurzsM-00156-00048147-00048412 William Ronald and Jack Bush and later Fhr4vVurzsM-00157-00048413-00048748 developed a close friendship with Bush Fhr4vVurzsM-00158-00048749-00049112 Greenberg saw Bush's post painters 11 Fhr4vVurzsM-00159-00049113-00049355 work as a clear manifestation of the Fhr4vVurzsM-00160-00049356-00049612 shift from Abstract Expressionism to Fhr4vVurzsM-00161-00049613-00049829 color field painting and lyrical Fhr4vVurzsM-00162-00049830-00050096 abstraction a shift he had called for in Fhr4vVurzsM-00163-00050097-00050318 most of his critical writings of the Fhr4vVurzsM-00164-00050319-00050693 period Greenberg expressed mixed Fhr4vVurzsM-00165-00050694-00051035 feelings about pop art on the one hand Fhr4vVurzsM-00166-00051036-00051314 he maintained that pop art partook of a Fhr4vVurzsM-00167-00051315-00051638 trend toward openness and clarity is Fhr4vVurzsM-00168-00051639-00051883 against the turgidity 's of second Fhr4vVurzsM-00169-00051884-00052345 generation Abstract Expressionism but on Fhr4vVurzsM-00170-00052346-00052577 the other hand Greenberg claimed that Fhr4vVurzsM-00171-00052578-00052913 pop art did not really challenge taste Fhr4vVurzsM-00172-00052914-00053279 on more than a superficial level through Fhr4vVurzsM-00173-00053279-00053579 the 1960s Greenberg remained an Fhr4vVurzsM-00174-00053579-00053779 influential figure on a younger Fhr4vVurzsM-00175-00053780-00054041 generation of critics including Michael Fhr4vVurzsM-00176-00054041-00054319 fried and Rosalynn Dee Krauss Fhr4vVurzsM-00177-00054320-00054662 Greenberg's antagonism to post modernist Fhr4vVurzsM-00178-00054663-00054965 theories and socially engaged movements Fhr4vVurzsM-00179-00054966-00055202 in art caused him to become a target for Fhr4vVurzsM-00180-00055203-00055480 critics who labeled him and the art he Fhr4vVurzsM-00181-00055482-00055888 admired as old-fashioned Fhr4vVurzsM-00182-00055889-00056338 in his book The Painted word Tom Wolfe Fhr4vVurzsM-00183-00056339-00056620 criticized Greenberg along with Harold Fhr4vVurzsM-00184-00056621-00056911 Rosenberg and Leo Steinberg whom he Fhr4vVurzsM-00185-00056912-00057277 dubbed the kings of Culture Berg wolf Fhr4vVurzsM-00186-00057278-00057520 argued that these three critics were Fhr4vVurzsM-00187-00057521-00057736 dominating the world of art with their Fhr4vVurzsM-00188-00057737-00057946 theories and that unlike the world of Fhr4vVurzsM-00189-00057947-00058167 literature in which anyone can buy a Fhr4vVurzsM-00190-00058169-00058447 book the art world was controlled by an Fhr4vVurzsM-00191-00058448-00058650 insular circle of rich collectors Fhr4vVurzsM-00192-00058651-00058924 museums and critics with outsized Fhr4vVurzsM-00193-00058925-00059574 influence Fhr4vVurzsM-00194-00059575-00060284 topic post-painterly abstraction Fhr4vVurzsM-00195-00060285-00060616 eventually Greenberg was concerned that Fhr4vVurzsM-00196-00060617-00060859 some abstract expressionism had been Fhr4vVurzsM-00197-00060860-00061275 reduced to a set of mannerisms and Fhr4vVurzsM-00198-00061276-00061537 increasingly looked to a new set of Fhr4vVurzsM-00199-00061538-00061801 artists who abandoned such elements as Fhr4vVurzsM-00200-00061802-00062026 subject matter connection with the Fhr4vVurzsM-00201-00062027-00062359 artist and definite brushstrokes Fhr4vVurzsM-00202-00062360-00062638 Greenberg suggested this process Fhr4vVurzsM-00203-00062639-00063022 attained a level of purity a word he Fhr4vVurzsM-00204-00063023-00063298 only used within scare quotes that would Fhr4vVurzsM-00205-00063299-00063529 reveal the truthfulness of the canvas Fhr4vVurzsM-00206-00063530-00063796 and the two-dimensional aspects of the Fhr4vVurzsM-00207-00063797-00064196 space flatness Greenberg coined the term Fhr4vVurzsM-00208-00064197-00064393 post-painterly abstraction to Fhr4vVurzsM-00209-00064394-00064591 distinguish it from abstract Fhr4vVurzsM-00210-00064592-00064876 expressionism or painterly abstraction Fhr4vVurzsM-00211-00064877-00065190 as Greenberg preferred to call it Fhr4vVurzsM-00212-00065191-00065471 post-painterly abstraction was a term Fhr4vVurzsM-00213-00065472-00065746 given to a myriad of abstract art that Fhr4vVurzsM-00214-00065747-00066010 reacted against gestural abstraction of Fhr4vVurzsM-00215-00066011-00066205 second generation Abstract Fhr4vVurzsM-00216-00066206-00066601 Expressionists among the dominant trends Fhr4vVurzsM-00217-00066602-00066821 in the post-painterly abstraction are Fhr4vVurzsM-00218-00066822-00067051 hard edged painters such as Ellsworth Fhr4vVurzsM-00219-00067052-00067306 Kelly and Frank Stella who explored Fhr4vVurzsM-00220-00067307-00067546 relationships between tightly ruled Fhr4vVurzsM-00221-00067547-00067798 shapes and edges in Stella's case Fhr4vVurzsM-00222-00067799-00068023 between the shapes depicted on the Fhr4vVurzsM-00223-00068024-00068242 surface and the literal shape of the Fhr4vVurzsM-00224-00068243-00068527 support and color field painters such as Fhr4vVurzsM-00225-00068528-00068815 Helen Frankenthaler and Morris Louie who Fhr4vVurzsM-00226-00068816-00069055 stained first magna then water-based Fhr4vVurzsM-00227-00069056-00069327 acrylic paints inter unprimed canvas Fhr4vVurzsM-00228-00069328-00069655 exploring tactile and optical aspects of Fhr4vVurzsM-00229-00069656-00069969 large vivid fields of pure open color Fhr4vVurzsM-00230-00069970-00070282 the line between these movements is Fhr4vVurzsM-00231-00070283-00070348 tenuous Fhr4vVurzsM-00232-00070349-00070606 however as artists such as kenneth Fhr4vVurzsM-00233-00070607-00070849 noland utilized aspects of both Fhr4vVurzsM-00234-00070850-00071179 movements in his art post-painterly Fhr4vVurzsM-00235-00071180-00071407 abstraction is generally seen as Fhr4vVurzsM-00236-00071408-00071671 continuing the modernist dialectic of Fhr4vVurzsM-00237-00071672-00072348 self-criticism Fhr4vVurzsM-00238-00072349-00073066 topic Clement Greenberg collection Fhr4vVurzsM-00239-00073067-00073444 in 2000 the Portland Art Museum Fhr4vVurzsM-00240-00073445-00073653 pam acquired the Clement Greenberg Fhr4vVurzsM-00241-00073654-00074068 collection of 159 paintings prints Fhr4vVurzsM-00242-00074069-00074464 drawings and sculpture by 59 important Fhr4vVurzsM-00243-00074465-00074734 artists of the late 20th century and Fhr4vVurzsM-00244-00074735-00074946 early 21st century Fhr4vVurzsM-00245-00074947-00075295 pam exhibits the works primarily in the Fhr4vVurzsM-00246-00075296-00075475 d'hubert Center for Modern and Fhr4vVurzsM-00247-00075476-00075772 Contemporary Arts some sculpture resides Fhr4vVurzsM-00248-00075773-00076138 outdoors most of the artists represented Fhr4vVurzsM-00249-00076139-00076393 are American along with several Fhr4vVurzsM-00250-00076394-00076687 Canadians and a handful of artists of Fhr4vVurzsM-00251-00076688-00077014 other nationalities artists represented Fhr4vVurzsM-00252-00077015-00077293 in the collection include among others Fhr4vVurzsM-00253-00077294-00077605 Edward Avedissian Walter Darby bannered Fhr4vVurzsM-00254-00077606-00078010 Stanley boxer Jack Bush Anthony Caro dan Fhr4vVurzsM-00255-00078011-00078301 Kristensen Ronald Davis Richard Fhr4vVurzsM-00256-00078302-00078538 Diebenkorn Enrico Donati Fhr4vVurzsM-00257-00078539-00078892 Friedel Jabez Andre Fodor Paul fili Fhr4vVurzsM-00258-00078893-00079174 Helen Frankenthaler Robert Goode nur Fhr4vVurzsM-00259-00079175-00079507 Adolph Gottlieb Hans Hofmann Wolfgang Fhr4vVurzsM-00260-00079508-00079819 hulagur robert jacobson Paul Jenkins Fhr4vVurzsM-00261-00079820-00080167 Seymour Lipton George Mathieu Kenneth Fhr4vVurzsM-00262-00080168-00080488 Noland Jules Olinsky William Perry who Fhr4vVurzsM-00263-00080489-00080836 DAF Jackson Pollock Larry Pune's William Fhr4vVurzsM-00264-00080837-00081208 Ronald and Ryan David Smith Theodorus Fhr4vVurzsM-00265-00081209-00081535 Thomas and Truitt Alfred Wallace and Fhr4vVurzsM-00266-00081536-00081652 Larry socks Fhr4vVurzsM-00267-00081653-00081916 Greenberg's widow Janice van horn Fhr4vVurzsM-00268-00081917-00082174 donated his annotated library of Fhr4vVurzsM-00269-00082175-00082468 exhibition catalogs and publications on Fhr4vVurzsM-00270-00082469-00082732 artists in Greenberg's collection to the Fhr4vVurzsM-00271-00082733-00082950 Portland Art Museum Fhr4vVurzsM-00272-00082951-00083227 Greenberg's annotated library is Fhr4vVurzsM-00273-00083228-00083476 available at the Portland Art Museum's Fhr4vVurzsM-00274-00083477-00083764 Crump Acker family library which is open Fhr4vVurzsM-00275-00083765-00084492 to the public free of charge Fhr4vVurzsM-00276-00084493-00085146 topic in popular culture Fhr4vVurzsM-00277-00085147-00085474 Greenberg was portrayed by actor Jeffrey Fhr4vVurzsM-00278-00085475-00085789 Tambor in the 2000 film Pollock about Fhr4vVurzsM-00279-00085790-00086519 the life of Jackson Pollock Fhr4vVurzsM-00280-00086520-00087138 topic bibliography Fhr4vVurzsM-00281-00087139-00087562 Greenberg Clemens art and culture beacon Fhr4vVurzsM-00282-00087563-00088199 press 1961 Greenberg Clement late Fhr4vVurzsM-00283-00088200-00088576 writings edited by Robert C Morgan st. Fhr4vVurzsM-00284-00088577-00089116 Paul University of Minnesota press 2003 Fhr4vVurzsM-00285-00089117-00089459 Clement Greenberg a critics collection Fhr4vVurzsM-00286-00089460-00089780 by Bruce Kunta Karin Wilkin editor Fhr4vVurzsM-00287-00089781-00090418 Portland Portland Art Museum 2001 ISBN Fhr4vVurzsM-00288-00090419-00090740 o-69 109 o49 Fhr4vVurzsM-00289-00090741-00091342 1 greenberg clement homemade aesthetics Fhr4vVurzsM-00290-00091343-00091588 observations on art and taste Fhr4vVurzsM-00291-00091589-00092176 Oxford University Press 1999 Jones Fhr4vVurzsM-00292-00092177-00092480 Caroline a eyesight alone Clement Fhr4vVurzsM-00293-00092481-00092662 Greenberg modernism and the Fhr4vVurzsM-00294-00092663-00093000 bureaucratization of the senses Fhr4vVurzsM-00295-00093001-00093607 University of Chicago Press 2005 cuspid Fhr4vVurzsM-00296-00093608-00093694 Donald Fhr4vVurzsM-00297-00093695-00094118 Clement Greenberg art critic University Fhr4vVurzsM-00298-00094119-00094526 of Wisconsin 1979 Fhr4vVurzsM-00299-00094527-00094910 Marquess Alice Goldfarb arts are the Fhr4vVurzsM-00300-00094911-00095169 rise and fall of Clement Greenberg Fhr4vVurzsM-00301-00095170-00095849 Boston MFA publications 2006 O'Brien Fhr4vVurzsM-00302-00095850-00096179 John Clement Greenberg the collected Fhr4vVurzsM-00303-00096180-00096575 essays and criticism 4 Vols Chicago Fhr4vVurzsM-00304-00096576-00097004 University of Chicago Press 1986 and Fhr4vVurzsM-00305-00097005-00097556 1993 Rubenfeld Florence Clement Fhr4vVurzsM-00306-00097557-00097751 Greenberg a life Fhr4vVurzsM-00307-00097752-00098447 Scribner 1997 Tekken er Deniz formalist Fhr4vVurzsM-00308-00098448-00098717 art criticism and the politics of Fhr4vVurzsM-00309-00098718-00099110 meaning social justice issue on art Fhr4vVurzsM-00310-00099111-00099799 power and social change 33 2 2 2006 Fhr4vVurzsM-00311-00099800-00100156 Anatoli Rykov Clement Greenberg and Fhr4vVurzsM-00312-00100157-00100426 American Serie of Contemporary Art in Fhr4vVurzsM-00313-00100427-00100706 the 1960s in art history Fhr4vVurzsM-00314-00100707-00100940 Journal of the russian institute of art Fhr4vVurzsM-00315-00100941-00101987 history 2007 no 1 - 2 PP 538 - 563 Fhr4vVurzsM-00316-00101988-00102413 equals equals see also Fk3ywJEwpe4-00000-00001375-00001671 ladies and gentlemen of the media Fk3ywJEwpe4-00001-00001672-00001910 the united nations has no political Fk3ywJEwpe4-00002-00001911-00002118 agenda in ethiopia Fk3ywJEwpe4-00003-00002119-00002423 our agenda is just one Fk3ywJEwpe4-00004-00002424-00002567 to support Fk3ywJEwpe4-00005-00002568-00002823 the ethiopian people tigray and zamar Fk3ywJEwpe4-00006-00002824-00002975 and zafari Fk3ywJEwpe4-00007-00002976-00003286 that have suffered so much Fk3ywJEwpe4-00008-00003288-00003615 we cannot see people go on dying Fk3ywJEwpe4-00009-00003615-00003783 dying because of bullets or dying Fk3ywJEwpe4-00010-00003784-00003927 because of hunger Fk3ywJEwpe4-00011-00003928-00004135 we need to do everything Fk3ywJEwpe4-00012-00004136-00004335 to stop this conflict Fk3ywJEwpe4-00013-00004336-00004527 we need to do everything for Fk3ywJEwpe4-00014-00004528-00004695 humanitarian aid to be distributed Fk3ywJEwpe4-00015-00004696-00004822 everywhere Fk3ywJEwpe4-00016-00004823-00005095 to everybody we need to do everything Fk3ywJEwpe4-00017-00005096-00005415 for a dialogue to Fk3ywJEwpe4-00018-00005416-00005599 to be established Fk3ywJEwpe4-00019-00005600-00005838 among ethiopians to solve the problems Fk3ywJEwpe4-00020-00005839-00006015 in ethiopia Fk3ywJEwpe4-00021-00006016-00006406 now in this context i was of course Fk3ywJEwpe4-00022-00006408-00006823 deeply shocked with the fact that seven Fk3ywJEwpe4-00023-00006823-00007095 members of the un had been Fk3ywJEwpe4-00024-00007095-00007303 expelled from ethiopia and declared Fk3ywJEwpe4-00025-00007304-00007519 personal grata we had the occasion to Fk3ywJEwpe4-00026-00007520-00007655 explain why Fk3ywJEwpe4-00027-00007656-00007927 this in our opinion is not in line with Fk3ywJEwpe4-00028-00007928-00008095 international law Fk3ywJEwpe4-00029-00008095-00008231 but Fk3ywJEwpe4-00030-00008232-00008431 on top of that because so many Fk3ywJEwpe4-00031-00008432-00008671 accusations are appearing Fk3ywJEwpe4-00032-00008672-00008991 today i asked the Fk3ywJEwpe4-00033-00008992-00009287 ambassador of ethiopia to provide me Fk3ywJEwpe4-00034-00009288-00009727 with any copy of any written document Fk3ywJEwpe4-00035-00009728-00009855 given by Fk3ywJEwpe4-00036-00009856-00010206 the government of ethiopia to any uneven Fk3ywJEwpe4-00037-00010207-00010542 entity in relation to Fk3ywJEwpe4-00038-00010543-00010846 wrongdoings of any of these seven Fk3ywJEwpe4-00039-00010847-00010999 members of Fk3ywJEwpe4-00040-00011000-00011327 the u.n and if Fk3ywJEwpe4-00041-00011328-00011583 such a document will be provided Fk3ywJEwpe4-00042-00011584-00011838 we will of course immediately Fk3ywJEwpe4-00043-00011839-00012110 do an investigation why it did not come Fk3ywJEwpe4-00044-00012111-00012303 to my attention Fk3ywJEwpe4-00045-00012304-00012446 thank you very much Fk3ywJEwpe4-00046-00012447-00012623 secretary general we've never seen you Fk3ywJEwpe4-00047-00012624-00012894 do a right of reply ever in the security Fk3ywJEwpe4-00048-00012895-00013079 council that i can recall Fk3ywJEwpe4-00049-00013080-00013286 is this an expression of the level of Fk3ywJEwpe4-00050-00013287-00013383 your Fk3ywJEwpe4-00051-00013384-00013558 displeasure at the moment with the Fk3ywJEwpe4-00052-00013559-00013655 ethiopian Fk3ywJEwpe4-00053-00013656-00013871 duty to defend the owner of the united Fk3ywJEwpe4-00055-00018040-00018319 officials including the head of unicef Fk3ywJEwpe4-00056-00018320-00018622 the head of the un ocha and a senior Fk3ywJEwpe4-00057-00018623-00018814 official from the office of the u.n high Fk3ywJEwpe4-00058-00018815-00019071 commissioner for human rights Fk3ywJEwpe4-00059-00019072-00019343 these expulsions are an affront Fk3ywJEwpe4-00060-00019344-00019583 they are an affront to the council Fk3ywJEwpe4-00061-00019584-00019863 they are an affront to the u.n Fk3ywJEwpe4-00062-00019864-00020079 and they are an affront to Fk3ywJEwpe4-00063-00020080-00020375 united nations member states and our Fk3ywJEwpe4-00064-00020376-00020639 shared humanitarian principles Fk3ywJEwpe4-00065-00020640-00020847 as i said in the meeting there's simply Fk3ywJEwpe4-00066-00020848-00021127 no justification for these actions Fk3ywJEwpe4-00067-00021128-00021327 the u.n is impartial Fk3ywJEwpe4-00068-00021328-00021455 and neutral Fk3ywJEwpe4-00069-00021456-00021694 these groups are conducting important Fk3ywJEwpe4-00070-00021695-00021927 human rights investigations Fk3ywJEwpe4-00071-00021928-00022239 and they are delivering life-saving aid Fk3ywJEwpe4-00072-00022240-00022494 u.n personnel must be allowed to return Fk3ywJEwpe4-00073-00022495-00022775 immediately to conduct their urgent work Fk3ywJEwpe4-00074-00022776-00023055 including trying to stop a potentially Fk3ywJEwpe4-00075-00023056-00023542 devastating and unnecessary famine Fk3ywJEwpe4-00076-00023543-00023799 these are self-inflicted wounds Fk3ywJEwpe4-00077-00023800-00024039 and they reflect how more broadly Fk3ywJEwpe4-00078-00024040-00024319 this is a conflict where ethiopians are Fk3ywJEwpe4-00079-00024320-00024663 killing ethiopians where ethiopians are Fk3ywJEwpe4-00080-00024664-00024863 raping ethiopians Fk3ywJEwpe4-00081-00024864-00025167 it is ethiopia's leaders who are letting Fk3ywJEwpe4-00082-00025168-00025439 down the ethiopian people Fk3ywJEwpe4-00083-00025440-00025646 three years ago we were talking about Fk3ywJEwpe4-00084-00025647-00025894 ethiopia as one of the fastest growing Fk3ywJEwpe4-00085-00025895-00026094 countries in africa Fk3ywJEwpe4-00086-00026095-00026327 a country full of promise Fk3ywJEwpe4-00087-00026327-00026623 and on the cusp of a major democratic Fk3ywJEwpe4-00088-00026624-00026887 and economic transformation Fk3ywJEwpe4-00089-00026888-00027174 we were excited because ethiopia looked Fk3ywJEwpe4-00090-00027175-00027446 like it might become the bedrock of Fk3ywJEwpe4-00091-00027447-00027783 africa's optimistic future Fk3ywJEwpe4-00092-00027783-00027935 one year ago Fk3ywJEwpe4-00093-00027936-00028087 or little less Fk3ywJEwpe4-00094-00028088-00028374 we were told that the current situation Fk3ywJEwpe4-00095-00028375-00028614 would be a two-week Fk3ywJEwpe4-00096-00028616-00029007 law enforcement action Fk3ywJEwpe4-00097-00029008-00029174 now we're talking about terrible Fk3ywJEwpe4-00098-00029175-00029295 violence Fk3ywJEwpe4-00099-00029295-00029483 we're talking about mass Fk3ywJEwpe4-00100-00029483-00029774 famine rape being used as a weapon of Fk3ywJEwpe4-00101-00029775-00029927 war Fk3ywJEwpe4-00102-00029927-00030174 and i want to make something clear Fk3ywJEwpe4-00103-00030175-00030574 it is not too late to stop this descent Fk3ywJEwpe4-00104-00030575-00030983 it is not too late to prevent the famine Fk3ywJEwpe4-00105-00030983-00031311 to get ethiopia back on track Fk3ywJEwpe4-00106-00031312-00031527 to save lives Fk3ywJEwpe4-00107-00031527-00031774 there is still hope Fk3ywJEwpe4-00108-00031775-00031958 we need a cease-fire that brings all Fk3ywJEwpe4-00109-00031960-00032167 parties to the table to find a peaceful Fk3ywJEwpe4-00110-00032168-00032374 way forward so that ethiopians can Fk3ywJEwpe4-00111-00032375-00032639 return to the future we know it can have Fk3ywJEwpe4-00112-00032639-00032902 and its children deserve Fk3ywJEwpe4-00113-00032903-00033127 the government needs to allow for the Fk3ywJEwpe4-00114-00033128-00033343 resumption of services Fk3ywJEwpe4-00115-00033344-00033679 to northern ethiopia Fk3ywJEwpe4-00116-00033680-00033895 there will be no lasting peace in Fk3ywJEwpe4-00117-00033896-00034127 ethiopia and the country's broader Fk3ywJEwpe4-00118-00034128-00034327 project of democratic and economic Fk3ywJEwpe4-00119-00034328-00034559 renewal will not be realized Fk3ywJEwpe4-00120-00034560-00034839 until there is a wider dialogue one that Fk3ywJEwpe4-00121-00034840-00035183 includes all ethiopians on the future of Fk3ywJEwpe4-00122-00035184-00035351 that state Fk3ywJEwpe4-00123-00035352-00035559 it is time for ethiopian leaders to do Fk3ywJEwpe4-00124-00035560-00035839 the right things for the people of Fk3ywJEwpe4-00125-00035840-00035990 ethiopia Fk3ywJEwpe4-00126-00035991-00036190 thank you i will take a couple of Fk3ywJEwpe4-00127-00036191-00036502 questions Fk3ywJEwpe4-00128-00036503-00036695 thank you thanks ambassador michelle Fk3ywJEwpe4-00129-00036696-00036935 nichols from reuters michelle Fk3ywJEwpe4-00130-00036936-00037071 what given what we just heard in the Fk3ywJEwpe4-00131-00037072-00037230 council from some of your colleagues it Fk3ywJEwpe4-00132-00037231-00037439 doesn't look like any council Fk3ywJEwpe4-00133-00037440-00037679 action is imminent so what's the u.s Fk3ywJEwpe4-00134-00037680-00037830 planning to do are you going to impose Fk3ywJEwpe4-00135-00037831-00038143 sanctions soon on ethiopia and if i Fk3ywJEwpe4-00136-00038144-00038343 could just on afghanistan we heard Fk3ywJEwpe4-00137-00038344-00038574 earlier from the afghanistan director of Fk3ywJEwpe4-00138-00038575-00038718 wfp Fk3ywJEwpe4-00139-00038719-00038887 warning about Fk3ywJEwpe4-00140-00038888-00039127 the collapse of the afghan economy if Fk3ywJEwpe4-00141-00039128-00039343 there's no sort of injection of cash Fk3ywJEwpe4-00142-00039344-00039462 what um Fk3ywJEwpe4-00143-00039463-00039623 what is the us doing to try and Fk3ywJEwpe4-00144-00039624-00039967 kick-start the afghan economy thanks Fk3ywJEwpe4-00145-00039968-00040295 well first on on the question of uh Fk3ywJEwpe4-00146-00040296-00040623 ethiopia i think the fact of the council Fk3ywJEwpe4-00147-00040624-00040911 meeting today and speaking directly to Fk3ywJEwpe4-00148-00040912-00041246 the ethiopians was an action Fk3ywJEwpe4-00149-00041247-00041446 and believe me it was not an action that Fk3ywJEwpe4-00150-00041447-00041687 was easy to take Fk3ywJEwpe4-00151-00041688-00041887 but we were able to bring the council Fk3ywJEwpe4-00152-00041888-00042046 together together Fk3ywJEwpe4-00153-00042047-00042311 in unity to speak Fk3ywJEwpe4-00154-00042312-00042551 about the situation in ethiopia and have Fk3ywJEwpe4-00155-00042552-00042783 the secretary general speak about the Fk3ywJEwpe4-00156-00042784-00042951 situation in Fk3ywJEwpe4-00157-00042952-00043118 ethiopia and we called upon the Fk3ywJEwpe4-00158-00043119-00043399 government to reverse this decision Fk3ywJEwpe4-00159-00043400-00043662 and we called on the government Fk3ywJEwpe4-00160-00043663-00043692 to Fk3ywJEwpe4-00161-00043693-00043862 [Music] Fk3ywJEwpe4-00162-00043863-00044190 move forward on a ceasefire and look for Fk3ywJEwpe4-00163-00044191-00044423 a way forward in terms of the united Fk3ywJEwpe4-00164-00044424-00044702 states we do have tools at our disposal Fk3ywJEwpe4-00165-00044703-00044927 you may have noted in my statement i Fk3ywJEwpe4-00166-00044928-00045151 suggest it it could be Fk3ywJEwpe4-00167-00045152-00045399 that we do a resolution Fk3ywJEwpe4-00168-00045400-00045567 but also we Fk3ywJEwpe4-00169-00045568-00045735 as you know Fk3ywJEwpe4-00170-00045736-00045823 we Fk3ywJEwpe4-00171-00045824-00046071 the president signed an executive order Fk3ywJEwpe4-00172-00046072-00046311 a couple of weeks ago that gives us the Fk3ywJEwpe4-00173-00046312-00046655 possibility of putting sanctions against Fk3ywJEwpe4-00174-00046656-00046855 individuals for gross violations of Fk3ywJEwpe4-00175-00046856-00047030 human rights and blocking of Fk3ywJEwpe4-00176-00047031-00047255 humanitarian assistance and that is Fk3ywJEwpe4-00177-00047256-00047367 available Fk3ywJEwpe4-00178-00047368-00047551 for our use Fk3ywJEwpe4-00179-00047552-00047727 when we need it Fk3ywJEwpe4-00180-00047728-00048062 on the situation in ethiopia it is not Fk3ywJEwpe4-00181-00048063-00048311 the u.s government's responsibility but Fk3ywJEwpe4-00182-00048312-00048527 we have to work together as the Fk3ywJEwpe4-00183-00048528-00048862 international community to find a way to Fk3ywJEwpe4-00184-00048863-00049039 support Fk3ywJEwpe4-00185-00049040-00049390 afghanistan uh moving forward but i also Fk3ywJEwpe4-00186-00049391-00049574 will add that it is also the Fk3ywJEwpe4-00187-00049575-00049839 responsibility of the taliban Fk3ywJEwpe4-00188-00049840-00050190 uh to provide an enabling environment Fk3ywJEwpe4-00189-00050191-00050486 that allows for uh the Fk3ywJEwpe4-00190-00050487-00050799 uh for the world to provide them with Fk3ywJEwpe4-00191-00050800-00051079 that assistance we continue to provide Fk3ywJEwpe4-00192-00051080-00051382 humanitarian assistance to afghanistan Fk3ywJEwpe4-00193-00051383-00051814 and we have worked to find ways around Fk3ywJEwpe4-00194-00051815-00051911 the Fk3ywJEwpe4-00195-00051912-00052207 sanctions regime to ensure Fk3ywJEwpe4-00196-00052208-00052430 that humanitarian assistance continues Fk3ywJEwpe4-00197-00052432-00052694 to flow into the country and we will Fk3ywJEwpe4-00198-00052695-00052863 look forward to working with others in Fk3ywJEwpe4-00199-00052864-00053135 the international community to see what Fk3ywJEwpe4-00200-00053136-00053415 we can do to support the people of Fk3ywJEwpe4-00201-00053416-00053759 afghanistan moving forward Fk3ywJEwpe4-00202-00053760-00054047 james bayes al jazeera um can i ask you Fk3ywJEwpe4-00203-00054048-00054294 about the new allegations that were made Fk3ywJEwpe4-00204-00054295-00054511 there by the ethiopian ambassador to Fk3ywJEwpe4-00205-00054512-00054807 justify the expulsions he said that un Fk3ywJEwpe4-00206-00054808-00055119 officials had inflated Fk3ywJEwpe4-00207-00055120-00055526 and falsified data even made up deaths Fk3ywJEwpe4-00208-00055527-00055654 what is your response to those Fk3ywJEwpe4-00209-00055655-00055838 allegations uh you heard what the Fk3ywJEwpe4-00210-00055839-00056063 secretary general said in response to Fk3ywJEwpe4-00211-00056064-00056279 those allegations Fk3ywJEwpe4-00212-00056279-00056463 it's our first time hearing them the Fk3ywJEwpe4-00213-00056464-00056687 secretary general asked for evidence he Fk3ywJEwpe4-00214-00056688-00056879 asked for evidence that Fk3ywJEwpe4-00215-00056879-00056959 the Fk3ywJEwpe4-00216-00056960-00057166 ethiopian government had brought any of Fk3ywJEwpe4-00217-00057167-00057471 these allegations to the attention Fk3ywJEwpe4-00218-00057472-00057711 of the united nations and none of us Fk3ywJEwpe4-00219-00057712-00057999 have seen that and as a u.n security Fk3ywJEwpe4-00220-00058000-00058335 council member and a u.n member state we Fk3ywJEwpe4-00221-00058336-00058423 too Fk3ywJEwpe4-00222-00058424-00058663 uh want to see Fk3ywJEwpe4-00223-00058664-00058830 those allegations and to see where Fk3ywJEwpe4-00224-00058832-00059063 they're coming from and the fact that Fk3ywJEwpe4-00225-00059064-00059311 you know that they are new allegations Fk3ywJEwpe4-00226-00059312-00059566 they weren't even lodged prior to Fk3ywJEwpe4-00227-00059567-00059838 uh the seven individuals being kicked Fk3ywJEwpe4-00228-00059839-00060111 out raises some concerns in in my mind Fk3ywJEwpe4-00229-00060112-00060519 about those Fk3ywJEwpe4-00231-00065704-00065912 you FkDfkmnHXGU-00000-00000032-00000254 hello to all our working preachers out FkDfkmnHXGU-00001-00000256-00000503 there this is joy j moore FkDfkmnHXGU-00002-00000504-00000807 our spring campaign is off to an amazing FkDfkmnHXGU-00003-00000808-00000902 start FkDfkmnHXGU-00004-00000903-00001103 i am grateful for all the people who FkDfkmnHXGU-00005-00001104-00001391 have stepped up to support this work FkDfkmnHXGU-00006-00001392-00001679 your support provides a new 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sermon brainwave team at FkDfkmnHXGU-00022-00005248-00005438 festival of homiletics go to FkDfkmnHXGU-00023-00005439-00005599 workingpreacher.org FkDfkmnHXGU-00024-00005600-00005943 before may 31st to double your impact FkDfkmnHXGU-00025-00005944-00006231 and have your gift matched dollar for FkDfkmnHXGU-00026-00006232-00006480 dollar FkDfkmnHXGU-00027-00006481-00006767 [Music] FkDfkmnHXGU-00028-00006768-00006942 welcome to sermon brainwave with me FkDfkmnHXGU-00029-00006943-00007239 caroline lewis and me matt skinner and FkDfkmnHXGU-00030-00007240-00008070 me joy j moore FkDfkmnHXGU-00031-00008072-00008327 that's right sermon brainwave listeners FkDfkmnHXGU-00032-00008328-00008607 we are coming to you with a live FkDfkmnHXGU-00033-00008608-00008895 recording of sermon brainwave here at FkDfkmnHXGU-00034-00008896-00009135 the festival of homiletics so we have a FkDfkmnHXGU-00035-00009136-00009327 a live audience in front of us we're FkDfkmnHXGU-00036-00009328-00009559 super excited about that we're here in FkDfkmnHXGU-00037-00009560-00009814 denver for the 30th anniversary of the FkDfkmnHXGU-00038-00009815-00010087 festival of homiletics and we're doing a FkDfkmnHXGU-00039-00010088-00010191 live FkDfkmnHXGU-00040-00010192-00010495 live recording of the text for pentecost FkDfkmnHXGU-00041-00010496-00010599 sunday FkDfkmnHXGU-00042-00010600-00011014 which falls on june 5 2022 and here are FkDfkmnHXGU-00043-00011015-00011127 the texts FkDfkmnHXGU-00044-00011128-00011414 the first reading is from acts chapter 2 FkDfkmnHXGU-00045-00011415-00011614 1-21 FkDfkmnHXGU-00046-00011615-00011838 the alternate first reading is genesis FkDfkmnHXGU-00047-00011839-00012070 11 1-9 FkDfkmnHXGU-00048-00012071-00012323 the psalm is psalm 104 FkDfkmnHXGU-00049-00012324-00012678 24-34 and 35b FkDfkmnHXGU-00050-00012679-00012886 35b FkDfkmnHXGU-00051-00012887-00013022 everybody got that FkDfkmnHXGU-00052-00013023-00013143 okay FkDfkmnHXGU-00053-00013144-00013386 second reading is romans 8 FkDfkmnHXGU-00054-00013387-00013871 14-17 and the gospel is from john FkDfkmnHXGU-00055-00013872-00014058 chapter 14 FkDfkmnHXGU-00056-00014059-00014255 8-17 and then you have those little FkDfkmnHXGU-00057-00014256-00014543 brackets with for 25 through 27 and you FkDfkmnHXGU-00058-00014544-00014838 totally have to use those FkDfkmnHXGU-00059-00014840-00015158 i always add always adverses yeah so FkDfkmnHXGU-00060-00015159-00015303 pentecost sunday i mean one of the FkDfkmnHXGU-00061-00015304-00015503 things that we always talk about when we FkDfkmnHXGU-00062-00015504-00015750 have these festival sundays FkDfkmnHXGU-00063-00015751-00016166 is is navigating the not not necessarily FkDfkmnHXGU-00064-00016168-00016455 the balance but navigating how much do FkDfkmnHXGU-00065-00016456-00016639 you talk about the festival and how much FkDfkmnHXGU-00066-00016640-00016822 you talk about the text FkDfkmnHXGU-00067-00016823-00017135 and uh and how does a sermon not turn FkDfkmnHXGU-00068-00017136-00017247 into FkDfkmnHXGU-00069-00017248-00017550 you know and a treatise on pneumatology FkDfkmnHXGU-00070-00017551-00017886 which nobody really wants to listen to FkDfkmnHXGU-00071-00017887-00018214 at least i know i don't and so how is it FkDfkmnHXGU-00072-00018215-00018583 that we can look at each of these texts FkDfkmnHXGU-00073-00018584-00018822 and and pay attention to the FkDfkmnHXGU-00074-00018823-00019079 particularity of of that text FkDfkmnHXGU-00075-00019080-00019222 pneumatology FkDfkmnHXGU-00076-00019223-00019455 and i've often said this i've said this FkDfkmnHXGU-00077-00019456-00019671 from the very beginning but on and and FkDfkmnHXGU-00078-00019672-00019822 for a while i got in trouble for it but FkDfkmnHXGU-00079-00019823-00019983 i'm not anymore i think people are used FkDfkmnHXGU-00080-00019984-00020103 to it FkDfkmnHXGU-00081-00020104-00020255 is that on pentecost sunday you have to FkDfkmnHXGU-00082-00020256-00020550 pick your spirit FkDfkmnHXGU-00083-00020551-00020703 right you have to pick your spirit not FkDfkmnHXGU-00084-00020704-00020839 that there's like many spirits that's FkDfkmnHXGU-00085-00020840-00021007 what i got in trouble for FkDfkmnHXGU-00086-00021008-00021247 uh i'm not saying that but but we have FkDfkmnHXGU-00087-00021248-00021414 such a rich FkDfkmnHXGU-00088-00021415-00021758 wonderful amazing breadth of FkDfkmnHXGU-00089-00021759-00021983 pneumatology in scripture FkDfkmnHXGU-00090-00021984-00022222 i've had the role the presence the FkDfkmnHXGU-00091-00022223-00022463 function of the holy spirit in in our FkDfkmnHXGU-00092-00022464-00022711 lives and so that's something that we FkDfkmnHXGU-00093-00022712-00023014 always are kind of navigating is how do FkDfkmnHXGU-00094-00023015-00023207 we how do we pay attention to those FkDfkmnHXGU-00095-00023208-00023407 particularities and really let the tech FkDfkmnHXGU-00096-00023408-00023503 speak FkDfkmnHXGU-00097-00023504-00023742 that specificity of what it's saying FkDfkmnHXGU-00098-00023743-00023975 about the spirit FkDfkmnHXGU-00099-00023976-00024183 so with that FkDfkmnHXGU-00100-00024184-00024439 john FkDfkmnHXGU-00101-00024440-00024655 start with john start with john who has FkDfkmnHXGU-00102-00024656-00024919 a very unique pneumatology FkDfkmnHXGU-00103-00024920-00025007 and FkDfkmnHXGU-00104-00025008-00025239 we should also note that FkDfkmnHXGU-00105-00025240-00025575 john is always the gospel lesson for FkDfkmnHXGU-00106-00025576-00025727 pentecost FkDfkmnHXGU-00107-00025727-00026039 just different sections of john so in FkDfkmnHXGU-00108-00026039-00026387 year a it's always john 20 FkDfkmnHXGU-00109-00026388-00026583 19-23 FkDfkmnHXGU-00110-00026583-00026679 year b FkDfkmnHXGU-00111-00026680-00026983 is selections from chapter 15 and 16. so FkDfkmnHXGU-00112-00026983-00027190 the other two locations FkDfkmnHXGU-00113-00027191-00027455 of the paraclete the advocate in the FkDfkmnHXGU-00114-00027456-00027679 farewell discourse but what we have in FkDfkmnHXGU-00115-00027680-00027799 your c FkDfkmnHXGU-00116-00027800-00028087 is the very first reference to FkDfkmnHXGU-00117-00028088-00028343 the paraclete otherwise known as the FkDfkmnHXGU-00118-00028344-00028558 advocate but can be translated all FkDfkmnHXGU-00119-00028560-00028767 different ways so this is the first FkDfkmnHXGU-00120-00028768-00029055 reference then to the paraclete in the FkDfkmnHXGU-00121-00029056-00029327 gospel of john and this is where FkDfkmnHXGU-00122-00029327-00029502 in this section in the farewell FkDfkmnHXGU-00123-00029504-00029679 discourse is where FkDfkmnHXGU-00124-00029680-00029807 john FkDfkmnHXGU-00125-00029808-00030046 is developing uh FkDfkmnHXGU-00126-00030047-00030190 it really is FkDfkmnHXGU-00127-00030191-00030495 presenting the pneumatology of of of how FkDfkmnHXGU-00128-00030495-00030670 the spirit works and who the spirit is FkDfkmnHXGU-00129-00030672-00030823 so FkDfkmnHXGU-00130-00030824-00030999 yeah i think even more widely it's it's FkDfkmnHXGU-00131-00031000-00031287 important to think about how john FkDfkmnHXGU-00132-00031288-00031495 sets this with jesus speaking to people FkDfkmnHXGU-00133-00031495-00031695 who are agitated FkDfkmnHXGU-00134-00031695-00031862 people who are either worried or FkDfkmnHXGU-00135-00031863-00032087 frightened or haven't gotten the message FkDfkmnHXGU-00136-00032088-00032223 quite right FkDfkmnHXGU-00137-00032224-00032455 so it's not uh the spirit will come and FkDfkmnHXGU-00138-00032456-00032639 will assist you in advancing the mission FkDfkmnHXGU-00139-00032639-00032855 or taking over the world or things like FkDfkmnHXGU-00140-00032856-00033055 that he's speaking to people who need to FkDfkmnHXGU-00141-00033056-00033262 hear this word of peace FkDfkmnHXGU-00142-00033263-00033423 and are worried well i don't know if FkDfkmnHXGU-00143-00033424-00033583 they're worried about being isolated FkDfkmnHXGU-00144-00033584-00033783 from him or abandoned by him but that's FkDfkmnHXGU-00145-00033784-00033935 part of the things he's talking about FkDfkmnHXGU-00146-00033936-00034199 right that i'm going to go away FkDfkmnHXGU-00147-00034200-00034415 but better things are coming FkDfkmnHXGU-00148-00034416-00034631 which i'm sure nobody believes when he FkDfkmnHXGU-00149-00034632-00034807 says that right how could it be better FkDfkmnHXGU-00150-00034808-00035007 than this FkDfkmnHXGU-00151-00035008-00035255 i think that point is really important FkDfkmnHXGU-00152-00035256-00035543 that and as we think about the role of FkDfkmnHXGU-00153-00035544-00035790 the spirit in our lives uh and FkDfkmnHXGU-00154-00035791-00036062 particularly in the context of this of FkDfkmnHXGU-00155-00036063-00036167 this FkDfkmnHXGU-00156-00036168-00036423 this can this conference right uh of the FkDfkmnHXGU-00157-00036424-00036527 festival FkDfkmnHXGU-00158-00036528-00036695 is that you have FkDfkmnHXGU-00159-00036696-00037015 this uh this attention to FkDfkmnHXGU-00160-00037016-00037271 the holy spirit here in the farewell FkDfkmnHXGU-00161-00037272-00037430 discourse FkDfkmnHXGU-00162-00037431-00037743 in the midst of troubled hearts FkDfkmnHXGU-00163-00037744-00038095 in the midst of the disciples true storm FkDfkmnHXGU-00164-00038096-00038343 when because we're in chapter 14 but FkDfkmnHXGU-00165-00038344-00038671 what's already happened in chapter 13 FkDfkmnHXGU-00166-00038672-00038918 is the betrayal of judas FkDfkmnHXGU-00167-00038919-00039159 and the foreshadowing of of peter's FkDfkmnHXGU-00168-00039160-00039271 denial FkDfkmnHXGU-00169-00039272-00039511 and then jesus before in the beginning FkDfkmnHXGU-00170-00039512-00039735 of chapter 14 says then do not let your FkDfkmnHXGU-00171-00039736-00039902 hearts be troubled FkDfkmnHXGU-00172-00039903-00040174 and uh and says i'm going away and then FkDfkmnHXGU-00173-00040175-00040367 thomas says we don't know the way and FkDfkmnHXGU-00174-00040368-00040535 jesus says yes you know the way i'm the FkDfkmnHXGU-00175-00040536-00040607 way FkDfkmnHXGU-00176-00040608-00040887 and so it's into that FkDfkmnHXGU-00177-00040888-00041311 in that troubled hearts and and and that FkDfkmnHXGU-00178-00041312-00041583 sense of betrayal and denial and who's FkDfkmnHXGU-00179-00041584-00041918 next and jesus says he's going away FkDfkmnHXGU-00180-00041919-00042151 into which the spirit enters FkDfkmnHXGU-00181-00042152-00042471 so i think that's one homological move FkDfkmnHXGU-00182-00042472-00042839 for this spirit this pentecost sunday FkDfkmnHXGU-00183-00042840-00043127 is uh that's where the spirit comes FkDfkmnHXGU-00184-00043128-00043327 in that moment is into FkDfkmnHXGU-00185-00043328-00043679 the exact moment that you're wondering FkDfkmnHXGU-00186-00043680-00043902 and that your hearts are deeply deeply FkDfkmnHXGU-00187-00043903-00044007 troubled FkDfkmnHXGU-00188-00044008-00044327 and i was i was struck with um FkDfkmnHXGU-00189-00044328-00044655 verse eight as uh it uh philip opens up FkDfkmnHXGU-00190-00044656-00044887 and says FkDfkmnHXGU-00191-00044888-00045167 show us the father and he simply says FkDfkmnHXGU-00192-00045168-00045502 and we will be satisfied FkDfkmnHXGU-00193-00045503-00045807 yes that if there's that same level of FkDfkmnHXGU-00194-00045808-00046079 you know peter's i'll never deny you and FkDfkmnHXGU-00195-00046080-00046262 you know there's this do you just tell FkDfkmnHXGU-00196-00046263-00046518 us this and we'll be good FkDfkmnHXGU-00197-00046519-00046902 and jesus is actually offering more FkDfkmnHXGU-00198-00046903-00047151 because the reality is FkDfkmnHXGU-00199-00047152-00047358 we're not satisfied FkDfkmnHXGU-00200-00047359-00047702 even with the things we ask of god FkDfkmnHXGU-00201-00047703-00047958 we're not satisfied it's like lord give FkDfkmnHXGU-00202-00047959-00048358 me this in your name i get this right oh FkDfkmnHXGU-00203-00048359-00048558 now that i've got that FkDfkmnHXGU-00204-00048559-00048783 maybe i want a little bit more FkDfkmnHXGU-00205-00048784-00048886 and so FkDfkmnHXGU-00206-00048887-00049127 it is in the midst of that FkDfkmnHXGU-00207-00049128-00049327 this is all i need FkDfkmnHXGU-00208-00049328-00049502 that jesus says no i'm going to show you FkDfkmnHXGU-00209-00049503-00049727 what you really need and this is truly FkDfkmnHXGU-00210-00049728-00049990 going to be what satisfies you you don't FkDfkmnHXGU-00211-00049991-00050158 know it yet FkDfkmnHXGU-00212-00050159-00050455 but the spirit is what you need as a FkDfkmnHXGU-00213-00050456-00050799 comfort in that peace as a teacher FkDfkmnHXGU-00214-00050800-00051039 and as an advocate that would be the way FkDfkmnHXGU-00215-00051040-00051214 i would go FkDfkmnHXGU-00216-00051215-00051350 i like them FkDfkmnHXGU-00217-00051351-00051487 yeah FkDfkmnHXGU-00218-00051488-00051694 we should do this live we should do this FkDfkmnHXGU-00219-00051695-00052030 live all the time exactly FkDfkmnHXGU-00220-00052032-00052119 okay FkDfkmnHXGU-00221-00052120-00052335 obviously the extravagance of that right FkDfkmnHXGU-00222-00052336-00052550 it's like FkDfkmnHXGU-00223-00052551-00052671 really this is all i need and i'm FkDfkmnHXGU-00224-00052672-00052782 satisfied FkDfkmnHXGU-00225-00052783-00052966 which i mean jesus FkDfkmnHXGU-00226-00052967-00053111 knows that he's either you know lying it FkDfkmnHXGU-00227-00053112-00053215 doesn't really realize what he's talking FkDfkmnHXGU-00228-00053216-00053382 about but just the extravagance just so FkDfkmnHXGU-00229-00053383-00053526 much more right that's such a part of FkDfkmnHXGU-00230-00053527-00053663 john's gospel FkDfkmnHXGU-00231-00053664-00053999 i i recently finished a five-week series FkDfkmnHXGU-00232-00054000-00054223 on john at my church FkDfkmnHXGU-00233-00054224-00054319 and FkDfkmnHXGU-00234-00054320-00054559 what finally helped them get it FkDfkmnHXGU-00235-00054560-00054742 was the meme that some people might have FkDfkmnHXGU-00236-00054744-00054950 seen it's the the guy who played elton FkDfkmnHXGU-00237-00054951-00055150 john in rocket man sitting in the driver FkDfkmnHXGU-00238-00055151-00055335 the passenger seat of a car FkDfkmnHXGU-00239-00055336-00055494 wearing all these feathers and stuff and FkDfkmnHXGU-00240-00055495-00055630 the guy driving his friend is just FkDfkmnHXGU-00241-00055632-00055823 looking at him like and the meme is it FkDfkmnHXGU-00242-00055824-00056103 says the guy who's driving the FkDfkmnHXGU-00243-00056104-00056263 the normal looking guy right the guy who FkDfkmnHXGU-00244-00056264-00056487 looks like me just like you yeah is it FkDfkmnHXGU-00245-00056488-00056687 says matthew mark and luke and john is FkDfkmnHXGU-00246-00056688-00056766 the FkDfkmnHXGU-00247-00056767-00057023 the totally flamboyant just like you FkDfkmnHXGU-00248-00057024-00057238 know filling the entire car right i said FkDfkmnHXGU-00249-00057239-00057479 this is this is john that you know FkDfkmnHXGU-00250-00057479-00057719 things FkDfkmnHXGU-00251-00057720-00057863 john's like i'm going to give you 10 and FkDfkmnHXGU-00252-00057864-00058023 i'm going to say things like even FkDfkmnHXGU-00253-00058024-00058230 greater works than these right it's just FkDfkmnHXGU-00254-00058232-00058423 it's just over and above right the FkDfkmnHXGU-00255-00058424-00058607 volume's just turned up so much which FkDfkmnHXGU-00256-00058608-00058726 some people don't like if you've been FkDfkmnHXGU-00257-00058727-00058863 taught to read the bible in a certain FkDfkmnHXGU-00258-00058864-00058966 way but FkDfkmnHXGU-00259-00058967-00059175 this is what pulls not only the artists FkDfkmnHXGU-00260-00059176-00059271 out FkDfkmnHXGU-00261-00059272-00059494 but the dreamers out in a congregation FkDfkmnHXGU-00262-00059495-00059638 and once you give them permission to do FkDfkmnHXGU-00263-00059639-00059815 that it's been fun in this bible study FkDfkmnHXGU-00264-00059816-00060007 for me to just kind of say let your FkDfkmnHXGU-00265-00060008-00060230 imagination go with this and then ask FkDfkmnHXGU-00266-00060232-00060406 what if this is true and what would that FkDfkmnHXGU-00267-00060407-00060542 look like FkDfkmnHXGU-00268-00060544-00060775 yeah and then and to FkDfkmnHXGU-00269-00060776-00061006 to develop that even further like in FkDfkmnHXGU-00270-00061007-00061223 verse 12 right very true i tell you the FkDfkmnHXGU-00271-00061224-00061391 one who believes in me will also do the FkDfkmnHXGU-00272-00061391-00061654 works that i do and in fact will do FkDfkmnHXGU-00273-00061655-00061887 greater works than these because i'm FkDfkmnHXGU-00274-00061888-00062087 going to the father and i and then FkDfkmnHXGU-00275-00062088-00062294 you're kind of you've got to like do FkDfkmnHXGU-00276-00062295-00062519 sort of a flashback and say okay let's FkDfkmnHXGU-00277-00062520-00062782 see greater works water into wine FkDfkmnHXGU-00278-00062783-00063030 you know man born blind lazarus from the FkDfkmnHXGU-00279-00063032-00063175 dead FkDfkmnHXGU-00280-00063176-00063359 and what are these greater works that FkDfkmnHXGU-00281-00063360-00063526 i'm going to be able to do FkDfkmnHXGU-00282-00063527-00063766 and of course those works are connected FkDfkmnHXGU-00283-00063767-00063879 to FkDfkmnHXGU-00284-00063879-00064247 uh that that outpouring of love that god FkDfkmnHXGU-00285-00064248-00064503 has for the world and so to do greater FkDfkmnHXGU-00286-00064504-00064742 works is is going to be for the FkDfkmnHXGU-00287-00064744-00065006 disciples that invitation to come and FkDfkmnHXGU-00288-00065007-00065103 see FkDfkmnHXGU-00289-00065104-00065342 uh in john of course the FkDfkmnHXGU-00290-00065344-00065519 only time that the FkDfkmnHXGU-00291-00065520-00065694 the first time that the disciples are FkDfkmnHXGU-00292-00065695-00065943 actually sent is after they have FkDfkmnHXGU-00293-00065944-00066119 received the holy spirit FkDfkmnHXGU-00294-00066120-00066375 and so this is really this is a this is FkDfkmnHXGU-00295-00066376-00066455 a FkDfkmnHXGU-00296-00066456-00066806 recalling of course of the of john 3 16 FkDfkmnHXGU-00297-00066807-00067047 but a looking forward to FkDfkmnHXGU-00298-00067048-00067143 what FkDfkmnHXGU-00299-00067144-00067455 how is john 3 16 going to come true FkDfkmnHXGU-00300-00067456-00067655 without the disciples FkDfkmnHXGU-00301-00067656-00067887 going in and loving the world and so FkDfkmnHXGU-00302-00067888-00068047 those works are FkDfkmnHXGU-00303-00068048-00068343 the works are specifically defined FkDfkmnHXGU-00304-00068344-00068606 by uh by love FkDfkmnHXGU-00305-00068607-00068838 and and that's what you get in verse you FkDfkmnHXGU-00306-00068839-00069055 know 15 that that those works are going FkDfkmnHXGU-00307-00069056-00069135 to be FkDfkmnHXGU-00308-00069136-00069359 defined by that love which jesus has FkDfkmnHXGU-00309-00069360-00069519 already mentioned in FkDfkmnHXGU-00310-00069520-00069791 back in chapter 13 31-35 FkDfkmnHXGU-00311-00069792-00070015 for the sake of god's love FkDfkmnHXGU-00312-00070016-00070271 right god loves the world so FkDfkmnHXGU-00313-00070272-00070591 and that god would be glorified FkDfkmnHXGU-00314-00070592-00070743 and i'm just going to throw that out FkDfkmnHXGU-00315-00070744-00070871 there as a teaser because i'm going to FkDfkmnHXGU-00316-00070872-00071047 circle back around that in another in FkDfkmnHXGU-00317-00071048-00071238 another set of scriptures nice going to FkDfkmnHXGU-00318-00071239-00071375 have a recall i'm going to have a recall FkDfkmnHXGU-00319-00071376-00071703 right awesome awesome uh maybe a couple FkDfkmnHXGU-00320-00071704-00071903 more things absolutely FkDfkmnHXGU-00321-00071904-00072047 yeah i got how many fingers did you hold FkDfkmnHXGU-00322-00072048-00072262 up there you've got couples FkDfkmnHXGU-00323-00072263-00072406 yeah something like that FkDfkmnHXGU-00324-00072407-00072782 uh well the first is if you decide to go FkDfkmnHXGU-00325-00072783-00072911 with john FkDfkmnHXGU-00326-00072912-00073047 and just built FkDfkmnHXGU-00327-00073048-00073350 just building that whole pneumatology of FkDfkmnHXGU-00328-00073351-00073503 the paraclete FkDfkmnHXGU-00329-00073504-00073759 the one who has called alongside you FkDfkmnHXGU-00330-00073760-00073950 and that the way in which that and if FkDfkmnHXGU-00331-00073951-00074038 you FkDfkmnHXGU-00332-00074039-00074247 fast forward and read chapter 15 and FkDfkmnHXGU-00333-00074248-00074471 read chapter 16 FkDfkmnHXGU-00334-00074472-00074679 there are so many possibilities for the FkDfkmnHXGU-00335-00074680-00074903 translation of the paraclete depending FkDfkmnHXGU-00336-00074904-00075103 on what the paraclete is doing so FkDfkmnHXGU-00337-00075104-00075311 fundamentally the pericle the spirit is FkDfkmnHXGU-00338-00075312-00075494 one who accompanies you FkDfkmnHXGU-00339-00075495-00075759 one who is called to be alongside you as FkDfkmnHXGU-00340-00075760-00076111 a guide as a teacher as an aide as a FkDfkmnHXGU-00341-00076112-00076311 helper as a comforter FkDfkmnHXGU-00342-00076312-00076550 intercessor advocate FkDfkmnHXGU-00343-00076551-00076767 and so really and maybe you invite FkDfkmnHXGU-00344-00076768-00077006 people into their own definition FkDfkmnHXGU-00345-00077007-00077255 if they think if they imagine the spirit FkDfkmnHXGU-00346-00077256-00077455 the paraclete or the spirit as the one FkDfkmnHXGU-00347-00077456-00077631 who accompanies them FkDfkmnHXGU-00348-00077632-00077806 how might they what FkDfkmnHXGU-00349-00077807-00078062 what word what noun would they use FkDfkmnHXGU-00350-00078063-00078262 uh in that regard FkDfkmnHXGU-00351-00078263-00078575 and pairing that up with ask anything FkDfkmnHXGU-00352-00078576-00078879 so what then would you ask for yeah if FkDfkmnHXGU-00353-00078880-00079023 what spirit FkDfkmnHXGU-00354-00079024-00079150 do you need FkDfkmnHXGU-00355-00079151-00079367 and then that's what you ask for yeah FkDfkmnHXGU-00356-00079368-00079638 yeah and then the other thing is just to FkDfkmnHXGU-00357-00079639-00079847 note in verse 17 FkDfkmnHXGU-00358-00079848-00080143 that uh this spirit of truth you know FkDfkmnHXGU-00359-00080144-00080479 him because he abides with you FkDfkmnHXGU-00360-00080480-00080694 right and you know know that's a big FkDfkmnHXGU-00361-00080695-00080999 john word but that is what that signals FkDfkmnHXGU-00362-00081000-00081231 though is that abiding FkDfkmnHXGU-00363-00081232-00081503 of abiding in jesus and jesus abides you FkDfkmnHXGU-00364-00081504-00081687 know in us and the father and abiding FkDfkmnHXGU-00365-00081688-00081950 everybody's abiding uh but that FkDfkmnHXGU-00366-00081951-00082294 repetition is really pointing to FkDfkmnHXGU-00367-00082295-00082518 uh this intimacy of the spirit that the FkDfkmnHXGU-00368-00082519-00082838 spirit will not only be alongside us but FkDfkmnHXGU-00369-00082839-00083071 of course in chapter 20 FkDfkmnHXGU-00370-00083072-00083326 in breathed into us FkDfkmnHXGU-00371-00083327-00083591 right and fuso so here's my worry about FkDfkmnHXGU-00372-00083592-00083806 this with john is FkDfkmnHXGU-00373-00083807-00084199 what well it FkDfkmnHXGU-00374-00084200-00084479 the pentecost scene in acts is FkDfkmnHXGU-00375-00084480-00084703 not only is it more obviously communal FkDfkmnHXGU-00376-00084704-00084862 it's also the way the spirit is FkDfkmnHXGU-00377-00084863-00085038 manifested is through other people it's FkDfkmnHXGU-00378-00085039-00085182 through speech it's through interaction FkDfkmnHXGU-00379-00085183-00085303 it's through this FkDfkmnHXGU-00380-00085304-00085479 bigger event so much of what we read FkDfkmnHXGU-00381-00085480-00085647 here in john i think is taken by a lot FkDfkmnHXGU-00382-00085648-00085815 of people as the spirit is my own FkDfkmnHXGU-00383-00085816-00085982 private possession FkDfkmnHXGU-00384-00085983-00086135 right so how does the spirit accompany FkDfkmnHXGU-00385-00086136-00086406 how does the spirit provide peace FkDfkmnHXGU-00386-00086407-00086559 obviously some of that is individual FkDfkmnHXGU-00387-00086560-00086735 some of that is deeply personal and FkDfkmnHXGU-00388-00086736-00086871 introspective FkDfkmnHXGU-00389-00086872-00087062 but some of it comes through hearing the FkDfkmnHXGU-00390-00087063-00087247 spirit speak through others FkDfkmnHXGU-00391-00087248-00087447 right and that says this is where i FkDfkmnHXGU-00392-00087448-00087647 think that john passage needs a little FkDfkmnHXGU-00393-00087648-00087911 more one more feather in the boa for FkDfkmnHXGU-00394-00087912-00088206 elton john is um FkDfkmnHXGU-00395-00088207-00088375 right just one more thing way of saying FkDfkmnHXGU-00396-00088376-00088503 sometimes the way we encounter the FkDfkmnHXGU-00397-00088504-00088647 spirit is not necessarily through FkDfkmnHXGU-00398-00088648-00088750 something supernatural or even FkDfkmnHXGU-00399-00088751-00088879 introspective FkDfkmnHXGU-00400-00088880-00089023 sometimes it's through the basic work FkDfkmnHXGU-00401-00089024-00089238 that we do through visitation work FkDfkmnHXGU-00402-00089239-00089382 through service work through the words FkDfkmnHXGU-00403-00089383-00089494 of others FkDfkmnHXGU-00404-00089495-00089671 the corrections of others the ideas of FkDfkmnHXGU-00405-00089672-00089847 others well and i think that maybe the FkDfkmnHXGU-00406-00089848-00090199 key to that too is uh is to note that FkDfkmnHXGU-00407-00090200-00090479 when jesus introduces the advocate he FkDfkmnHXGU-00408-00090480-00090806 says i will give you another advocate so FkDfkmnHXGU-00409-00090807-00090982 jesus has already FkDfkmnHXGU-00410-00090983-00091199 sort of walked alongside FkDfkmnHXGU-00411-00091200-00091399 and told them things and shared things FkDfkmnHXGU-00412-00091400-00091703 with them and so it invites in some ways FkDfkmnHXGU-00413-00091704-00091887 i mean he doesn't quite say this but i FkDfkmnHXGU-00414-00091888-00092111 think jesus should have said it FkDfkmnHXGU-00415-00092112-00092359 is that how will you be paracletes to FkDfkmnHXGU-00416-00092360-00092543 one another FkDfkmnHXGU-00417-00092544-00092759 right how will you walk alongside each FkDfkmnHXGU-00418-00092760-00092926 other that's part of FkDfkmnHXGU-00419-00092927-00093094 part of imagining the spirit walking FkDfkmnHXGU-00420-00093095-00093303 alongside is then you walk alongside FkDfkmnHXGU-00421-00093304-00093503 each other and i think that rehearsal FkDfkmnHXGU-00422-00093504-00093782 that you did earlier of of what are the FkDfkmnHXGU-00423-00093783-00093999 things what are the works that jesus has FkDfkmnHXGU-00424-00094000-00094255 already done those works especially in FkDfkmnHXGU-00425-00094256-00094526 the list that you gave are works that FkDfkmnHXGU-00426-00094527-00094799 are not individual so they are where FkDfkmnHXGU-00427-00094800-00095015 jesus has shown us what it means to show FkDfkmnHXGU-00428-00095016-00095406 up and to be there to offer peace to FkDfkmnHXGU-00429-00095407-00095687 enter in to help to heal to FkDfkmnHXGU-00430-00095688-00095918 and i think using that kind of FkDfkmnHXGU-00431-00095919-00096159 scriptural reminder to set that up as FkDfkmnHXGU-00432-00096160-00096479 the scriptural imagination might be one FkDfkmnHXGU-00433-00096480-00096726 way to make sure we don't fall into that FkDfkmnHXGU-00434-00096727-00096894 individualism because i think you're FkDfkmnHXGU-00435-00096895-00097206 right we we too easily want to say FkDfkmnHXGU-00436-00097207-00097447 me and jesus and FkDfkmnHXGU-00437-00097448-00097750 this whole thing is about god loving the FkDfkmnHXGU-00438-00097751-00098023 world and if it's all about that then it FkDfkmnHXGU-00439-00098024-00098238 can't be just me FkDfkmnHXGU-00440-00098239-00098374 so right yeah FkDfkmnHXGU-00441-00098375-00098455 yeah FkDfkmnHXGU-00442-00098456-00098582 well we better move on or we're going to FkDfkmnHXGU-00443-00098583-00098750 spend the entire time on john and the FkDfkmnHXGU-00444-00098751-00099015 crowd will get upset so FkDfkmnHXGU-00445-00099016-00099247 i don't know why well you know one of FkDfkmnHXGU-00446-00099248-00099487 i think one of the challenges FkDfkmnHXGU-00447-00099488-00099647 yeah one of the challenges of pentecost FkDfkmnHXGU-00448-00099648-00099879 in general is to help people FkDfkmnHXGU-00449-00099880-00100174 celebrate it embrace it live into it FkDfkmnHXGU-00450-00100175-00100503 not as a past event not as a kind of FkDfkmnHXGU-00451-00100504-00100671 nostalgia like it would have been really FkDfkmnHXGU-00452-00100672-00100847 cool to have been there or this is the FkDfkmnHXGU-00453-00100848-00101006 birthday of the church that kind of FkDfkmnHXGU-00454-00101007-00101255 language kind of falls flat on me i FkDfkmnHXGU-00455-00101256-00101455 rather would see people be invited to FkDfkmnHXGU-00456-00101456-00101799 see pentecost as a recurring event FkDfkmnHXGU-00457-00101800-00101967 obviously the first pentecost is what it FkDfkmnHXGU-00458-00101968-00102135 is especially in the book of acts and as FkDfkmnHXGU-00459-00102136-00102374 a foundational moment but to help people FkDfkmnHXGU-00460-00102375-00102566 imagine where other times and places FkDfkmnHXGU-00461-00102567-00102702 whether in acts whether in the new FkDfkmnHXGU-00462-00102703-00102839 testament as a whole or in the history FkDfkmnHXGU-00463-00102840-00103006 of this congregation FkDfkmnHXGU-00464-00103007-00103182 where we have sensed the spirit calling FkDfkmnHXGU-00465-00103183-00103382 us to step into a new horizon or to open FkDfkmnHXGU-00466-00103383-00103575 see a new horizon open up in front of us FkDfkmnHXGU-00467-00103576-00103751 and and to see pentecost is something FkDfkmnHXGU-00468-00103752-00103975 that builds expectation as opposed to a FkDfkmnHXGU-00469-00103976-00104239 past event that needs to be explained FkDfkmnHXGU-00470-00104240-00104494 um i think the john text can do that FkDfkmnHXGU-00471-00104495-00104702 i know the roman sects can i really know FkDfkmnHXGU-00472-00104703-00104919 that the acts 2 text you need to FkDfkmnHXGU-00473-00104920-00105063 kind of talk about what is this set in FkDfkmnHXGU-00474-00105064-00105207 motion as opposed to what does this FkDfkmnHXGU-00475-00105208-00105343 accomplish FkDfkmnHXGU-00476-00105344-00105502 especially when we're going into the FkDfkmnHXGU-00477-00105503-00105727 season of pentecost right right so how FkDfkmnHXGU-00478-00105728-00105839 can you help FkDfkmnHXGU-00479-00105840-00106054 people move into that reality of the FkDfkmnHXGU-00480-00106055-00106199 presence of the spirit and the working FkDfkmnHXGU-00481-00106200-00106407 of the spirit and i think i think FkDfkmnHXGU-00482-00106408-00106534 poignantly FkDfkmnHXGU-00483-00106535-00106910 in this moment in um in coming back FkDfkmnHXGU-00484-00106911-00107134 in worshiping together with the pandemic FkDfkmnHXGU-00485-00107135-00107278 i mean what are those FkDfkmnHXGU-00486-00107279-00107502 new things and new possibilities that FkDfkmnHXGU-00487-00107503-00107815 we're trusting the spirit to guide us in FkDfkmnHXGU-00488-00107816-00108110 and a reminder in terms of that this was FkDfkmnHXGU-00489-00108111-00108447 a normal uh uh regular FkDfkmnHXGU-00490-00108448-00108743 gathering that pentecost was already a FkDfkmnHXGU-00491-00108744-00109023 holiday right and therefore FkDfkmnHXGU-00492-00109024-00109295 and still it was a jewish holiday and it FkDfkmnHXGU-00493-00109296-00109510 was already a holiday it was already a FkDfkmnHXGU-00494-00109511-00109734 time for gathering and it is in that FkDfkmnHXGU-00495-00109735-00109958 gathering that to use the uh what you FkDfkmnHXGU-00496-00109959-00110247 reminded us of uh from john is where we FkDfkmnHXGU-00497-00110248-00110590 see uh a greater work of jesus a a FkDfkmnHXGU-00498-00110591-00110854 unexpected abundant showing up of the FkDfkmnHXGU-00499-00110855-00110999 spirit of god FkDfkmnHXGU-00500-00111000-00111199 in the place where the people of god FkDfkmnHXGU-00501-00111200-00111527 were already used to gathering yeah so FkDfkmnHXGU-00502-00111528-00111710 that's one way to yeah and nadia FkDfkmnHXGU-00503-00111711-00111823 mentioned that FkDfkmnHXGU-00504-00111824-00112078 yeah this morning FkDfkmnHXGU-00505-00112079-00112343 all days are blurring together yeah it FkDfkmnHXGU-00506-00112344-00112527 was this but i think it was this morning FkDfkmnHXGU-00507-00112528-00112654 right where she FkDfkmnHXGU-00508-00112655-00112878 she her church gathered FkDfkmnHXGU-00509-00112879-00113119 for the first time on pentecost and you FkDfkmnHXGU-00510-00113120-00113310 know and it's so easy to pass over that FkDfkmnHXGU-00511-00113311-00113447 first verse FkDfkmnHXGU-00512-00113448-00113623 when the day of pentecost had come and FkDfkmnHXGU-00513-00113624-00113934 they were all together in one place FkDfkmnHXGU-00514-00113935-00114015 and FkDfkmnHXGU-00515-00114016-00114231 and sounds terrifying now FkDfkmnHXGU-00516-00114232-00114351 well FkDfkmnHXGU-00517-00114352-00114702 but but but yeah i mean how much how uh FkDfkmnHXGU-00518-00114703-00114943 how that rings just so beautifully right FkDfkmnHXGU-00519-00114944-00115223 to imagine that that that promise of the FkDfkmnHXGU-00520-00115224-00115471 spirit in that in that gathering space FkDfkmnHXGU-00521-00115472-00115599 of the faithful FkDfkmnHXGU-00522-00115600-00115815 that the gathered the faithful are FkDfkmnHXGU-00523-00115816-00115999 gathered you know one thing that was FkDfkmnHXGU-00524-00116000-00116399 really interesting that i don't know FkDfkmnHXGU-00525-00116400-00116695 i've really thought about and i'm FkDfkmnHXGU-00526-00116696-00117023 i am still thinking about it is is also FkDfkmnHXGU-00527-00117024-00117190 the timing FkDfkmnHXGU-00528-00117191-00117415 that yet here of course the gift of the FkDfkmnHXGU-00529-00117416-00117695 spirit is 50 days after FkDfkmnHXGU-00530-00117696-00117871 the resurrection of jesus FkDfkmnHXGU-00531-00117872-00118047 uh and FkDfkmnHXGU-00532-00118048-00118383 but in john it's on the same day as the FkDfkmnHXGU-00533-00118383-00118623 empty tomb FkDfkmnHXGU-00534-00118624-00118895 and i i wonder about that with help of FkDfkmnHXGU-00535-00118896-00119143 thinking about the spirit and FkDfkmnHXGU-00536-00119144-00119439 i and the way in which uh in the way in FkDfkmnHXGU-00537-00119440-00119719 which is there some sort of sense of FkDfkmnHXGU-00538-00119720-00120054 of delay of the spirit that people get FkDfkmnHXGU-00539-00120055-00120231 anxious about and when is the spirit FkDfkmnHXGU-00540-00120232-00120399 going to come FkDfkmnHXGU-00541-00120400-00120678 and yet and yet there's a promise here FkDfkmnHXGU-00542-00120679-00121014 that yeah it it it's coming FkDfkmnHXGU-00543-00121015-00121143 i don't know i just thought that was FkDfkmnHXGU-00544-00121144-00121399 really really curious FkDfkmnHXGU-00545-00121400-00121478 okay FkDfkmnHXGU-00546-00121479-00121663 can i can i FkDfkmnHXGU-00547-00121664-00121839 hold on to that but matt you put FkDfkmnHXGU-00548-00121840-00122127 something in my imagination um and it it FkDfkmnHXGU-00549-00122128-00122439 it was where you said um coming back FkDfkmnHXGU-00550-00122440-00122702 together and all in one place is FkDfkmnHXGU-00551-00122703-00122943 terrifying it has been in the last two FkDfkmnHXGU-00552-00122944-00123231 years exactly exactly but this is the FkDfkmnHXGU-00553-00123232-00123431 closest we've been i know this is the FkDfkmnHXGU-00554-00123432-00123599 first time we've been together like this FkDfkmnHXGU-00555-00123600-00123910 um but it it you have in my imagination FkDfkmnHXGU-00556-00123911-00124102 this idea of how do we get away from it FkDfkmnHXGU-00557-00124103-00124271 being only me FkDfkmnHXGU-00558-00124272-00124534 and if we linger in that idea that you FkDfkmnHXGU-00559-00124535-00124734 just brought up that it reminds us that FkDfkmnHXGU-00560-00124735-00124958 it's terrifying to think that i've got FkDfkmnHXGU-00561-00124959-00125207 to talk about my experience of the FkDfkmnHXGU-00562-00125208-00125527 spirit not as my individual experience FkDfkmnHXGU-00563-00125528-00125766 but how is it communal and we could use FkDfkmnHXGU-00564-00125767-00125990 that language that you just used to say FkDfkmnHXGU-00565-00125991-00126302 this is terrifying to say yeah it's FkDfkmnHXGU-00566-00126303-00126551 different it's going to be scary scary FkDfkmnHXGU-00567-00126552-00126910 it's what i called awesome which means FkDfkmnHXGU-00568-00126911-00127110 all full FkDfkmnHXGU-00569-00127111-00127414 i'll fill off full FkDfkmnHXGU-00570-00127415-00127686 just playing with that sure yeah yeah FkDfkmnHXGU-00571-00127688-00127863 so that's what we think about that and FkDfkmnHXGU-00572-00127864-00127990 that cut you off are you going to get FkDfkmnHXGU-00573-00127991-00128183 something FkDfkmnHXGU-00574-00128183-00128302 the um FkDfkmnHXGU-00575-00128303-00128599 the connection to place i think matters FkDfkmnHXGU-00576-00128600-00128758 about difference and FkDfkmnHXGU-00577-00128759-00128878 people FkDfkmnHXGU-00578-00128879-00129039 and ethnicity and how this is also an FkDfkmnHXGU-00579-00129040-00129247 ethnic story with the table of nations FkDfkmnHXGU-00580-00129248-00129358 here and FkDfkmnHXGU-00581-00129359-00129471 um FkDfkmnHXGU-00582-00129472-00129623 people in this audience probably i'm FkDfkmnHXGU-00583-00129624-00129783 guessing have not read the commentaries FkDfkmnHXGU-00584-00129783-00129951 on the website yet FkDfkmnHXGU-00585-00129952-00130063 because you haven't gotten that far FkDfkmnHXGU-00586-00130064-00130247 perhaps near pentecost preparations but FkDfkmnHXGU-00587-00130248-00130383 there's an interesting debate going on FkDfkmnHXGU-00588-00130383-00130614 in the commentaries on the website FkDfkmnHXGU-00589-00130615-00130766 where the author of the commentary on FkDfkmnHXGU-00590-00130767-00131023 acts 2 describes this as a reversal or a FkDfkmnHXGU-00591-00131024-00131190 redemption of babel FkDfkmnHXGU-00592-00131191-00131375 in genesis 11 which is also one of the FkDfkmnHXGU-00593-00131376-00131535 optional texts this week and then the FkDfkmnHXGU-00594-00131536-00131790 author of the genesis 11 passage says FkDfkmnHXGU-00595-00131791-00132007 some people say that pentecost is a FkDfkmnHXGU-00596-00132008-00132190 reversal of babylon but it's not so FkDfkmnHXGU-00597-00132191-00132271 that's FkDfkmnHXGU-00598-00132272-00132607 um we usually try not to evaluate the FkDfkmnHXGU-00599-00132608-00132799 commentaries when we're live on certain FkDfkmnHXGU-00600-00132800-00132927 brain wave or even FkDfkmnHXGU-00601-00132928-00133102 not live on sermon FkDfkmnHXGU-00602-00133103-00133247 but you have to make a decision there if FkDfkmnHXGU-00603-00133248-00133390 you're going to put those into into FkDfkmnHXGU-00604-00133391-00133559 conversation and FkDfkmnHXGU-00605-00133560-00133766 one of the arguments about this FkDfkmnHXGU-00606-00133767-00133943 that i personally find more persuasive FkDfkmnHXGU-00607-00133944-00134054 is that FkDfkmnHXGU-00608-00134055-00134263 that it's not that that babel is not FkDfkmnHXGU-00609-00134264-00134519 regarded as a kind of curse FkDfkmnHXGU-00610-00134520-00134854 that monoculture is not god's design or FkDfkmnHXGU-00611-00134855-00134999 something that FkDfkmnHXGU-00612-00135000-00135159 that god doesn't like scatter and then FkDfkmnHXGU-00613-00135160-00135366 try to recreate a monoculture to bless FkDfkmnHXGU-00614-00135367-00135487 the church FkDfkmnHXGU-00615-00135488-00135614 or rather i think pentecost from its FkDfkmnHXGU-00616-00135615-00135814 core is a resistance to monoculture it's FkDfkmnHXGU-00617-00135815-00136047 a resistance to the ways in which FkDfkmnHXGU-00618-00136048-00136239 part of the roman empire's message was FkDfkmnHXGU-00619-00136240-00136543 this cultural homogeneity was FkDfkmnHXGU-00620-00136544-00136719 part of its way of just of displaying FkDfkmnHXGU-00621-00136720-00136878 its military might especially its FkDfkmnHXGU-00622-00136879-00137159 economic might was this is a this is an FkDfkmnHXGU-00623-00137160-00137343 empire where if you get on board and you FkDfkmnHXGU-00624-00137344-00137478 do what you're told and you know your FkDfkmnHXGU-00625-00137479-00137607 place FkDfkmnHXGU-00626-00137608-00137847 right and you serve the system you'll be FkDfkmnHXGU-00627-00137848-00138007 safe and you'll get on board and you'll FkDfkmnHXGU-00628-00138008-00138175 do i mean look at how the FkDfkmnHXGU-00629-00138176-00138351 the author of the book of revelation FkDfkmnHXGU-00630-00138352-00138519 what the author of revelation thinks FkDfkmnHXGU-00631-00138520-00138678 about that right that's a strong FkDfkmnHXGU-00632-00138679-00138927 pushback but but that's an important FkDfkmnHXGU-00633-00138928-00139135 message especially for our day i'm sure FkDfkmnHXGU-00634-00139136-00139375 our perspective on that text is shaped FkDfkmnHXGU-00635-00139376-00139511 by our own FkDfkmnHXGU-00636-00139512-00139831 uh struggles to live into FkDfkmnHXGU-00637-00139832-00140054 a truly multi-ethnic expression of the FkDfkmnHXGU-00638-00140055-00140207 king the reign of god in our in our FkDfkmnHXGU-00639-00140208-00140447 congregations but yeah and i think not FkDfkmnHXGU-00640-00140448-00140863 only the the reality of the empire and FkDfkmnHXGU-00641-00140864-00141159 uh and that that imperial presence FkDfkmnHXGU-00642-00141160-00141343 uh and and FkDfkmnHXGU-00643-00141344-00141551 moving everybody to that kind of FkDfkmnHXGU-00644-00141552-00141863 homogeneity but it also it causes us to FkDfkmnHXGU-00645-00141864-00142078 reflect on just the FkDfkmnHXGU-00646-00142079-00142366 general human drive toward homogeneity FkDfkmnHXGU-00647-00142367-00142575 oh yeah and usually FkDfkmnHXGU-00648-00142576-00142823 yeah and that actually the divine plan FkDfkmnHXGU-00649-00142824-00143095 is diversity and so that i think that's FkDfkmnHXGU-00650-00143096-00143359 it could be a main theme um one one FkDfkmnHXGU-00651-00143360-00143590 thing that too i FkDfkmnHXGU-00652-00143591-00144014 i thought about this year is verse 4 all FkDfkmnHXGU-00653-00144015-00144295 of them were filled with the holy spirit FkDfkmnHXGU-00654-00144296-00144614 and uh and maybe this is where you FkDfkmnHXGU-00655-00144615-00144990 recognize not only all present but FkDfkmnHXGU-00656-00144991-00145263 where you take people back to the FkDfkmnHXGU-00657-00145264-00145519 presence and the promise and the power FkDfkmnHXGU-00658-00145520-00145743 of the holy spirit from the beginning of FkDfkmnHXGU-00659-00145744-00145887 the book of luke FkDfkmnHXGU-00660-00145888-00146183 and so that this is the second volume FkDfkmnHXGU-00661-00146184-00146414 and you've got you know that john the FkDfkmnHXGU-00662-00146415-00146639 baptist is filled with the holy spirit FkDfkmnHXGU-00663-00146640-00146839 mary is filled with the holy spirit FkDfkmnHXGU-00664-00146840-00147054 elizabeth is filled with the holy spirit FkDfkmnHXGU-00665-00147055-00147302 zechariah right simeon FkDfkmnHXGU-00666-00147303-00147566 and so that all FkDfkmnHXGU-00667-00147567-00147878 is is all-encompassing FkDfkmnHXGU-00668-00147879-00148102 and and the way in which FkDfkmnHXGU-00669-00148103-00148343 nothing really happens in jesus ministry FkDfkmnHXGU-00670-00148344-00148454 without FkDfkmnHXGU-00671-00148455-00148766 that presence of the spirit and so uh i FkDfkmnHXGU-00672-00148767-00149031 think that that all creates also a kind FkDfkmnHXGU-00673-00149032-00149102 of FkDfkmnHXGU-00674-00149103-00149278 of continuity FkDfkmnHXGU-00675-00149279-00149543 uh and and pushes FkDfkmnHXGU-00676-00149544-00149847 so past the text which is really what FkDfkmnHXGU-00677-00149848-00150151 the spirit does right pushes past FkDfkmnHXGU-00678-00150152-00150390 the way in which we try to confine FkDfkmnHXGU-00679-00150391-00150639 uh the spirit of god and a play a little FkDfkmnHXGU-00680-00150640-00150823 bit about with uh what what you were FkDfkmnHXGU-00681-00150824-00151047 talking about matt in terms of FkDfkmnHXGU-00682-00151048-00151287 which way to go with uh whether this is FkDfkmnHXGU-00683-00151288-00151551 a reversal or not and as i was reading FkDfkmnHXGU-00684-00151552-00151759 and and probably reflecting on that i FkDfkmnHXGU-00685-00151760-00151999 was caught by the fact that what it says FkDfkmnHXGU-00686-00152000-00152326 is divided tongues FkDfkmnHXGU-00687-00152327-00152631 so that what is actually happening here FkDfkmnHXGU-00688-00152632-00152943 is while the message was understood FkDfkmnHXGU-00689-00152944-00153295 you know in in unified um what what what FkDfkmnHXGU-00690-00153296-00153495 would i say um FkDfkmnHXGU-00691-00153496-00153711 bringing glory to god they talked about FkDfkmnHXGU-00692-00153712-00153895 the things that god had done i wonder FkDfkmnHXGU-00693-00153896-00154190 where i got that from anyway um but um FkDfkmnHXGU-00694-00154191-00154287 that FkDfkmnHXGU-00695-00154288-00154519 there were all of these different FkDfkmnHXGU-00696-00154520-00154735 languages so when i read this this time FkDfkmnHXGU-00697-00154736-00155063 what i noted was divided tongues among FkDfkmnHXGU-00698-00155064-00155375 them which go to different languages the FkDfkmnHXGU-00699-00155376-00155631 languages of all the people all the FkDfkmnHXGU-00700-00155632-00155975 nations all the different um FkDfkmnHXGU-00701-00155976-00156231 forms of communication there and what it FkDfkmnHXGU-00702-00156232-00156526 says parenthetically is FkDfkmnHXGU-00703-00156527-00156647 as FkDfkmnHXGU-00704-00156648-00156807 a fire FkDfkmnHXGU-00705-00156808-00157007 and so many so many times maybe because FkDfkmnHXGU-00706-00157008-00157183 i'm a united methodist we spent a lot of FkDfkmnHXGU-00707-00157184-00157423 time talking about the flames uh that FkDfkmnHXGU-00708-00157424-00157711 were landing on everyone's head but it's FkDfkmnHXGU-00709-00157712-00157902 more of a simile FkDfkmnHXGU-00710-00157903-00158254 rather than it is an uh a literal and so FkDfkmnHXGU-00711-00158255-00158590 i began to look at this to say hmm how FkDfkmnHXGU-00712-00158591-00158831 does a fire spread especially now when FkDfkmnHXGU-00713-00158832-00159111 we have all of these bad weather events FkDfkmnHXGU-00714-00159112-00159351 and um how would that FkDfkmnHXGU-00715-00159352-00159671 idea fit with loudness of language and FkDfkmnHXGU-00716-00159672-00159887 all i could think of was either being in FkDfkmnHXGU-00717-00159888-00160087 a train station and having all of these FkDfkmnHXGU-00718-00160088-00160295 people chattering around you or being FkDfkmnHXGU-00719-00160296-00160526 with a bunch of children um having a FkDfkmnHXGU-00720-00160527-00160759 bunch a lot of chatter going around and FkDfkmnHXGU-00721-00160760-00160983 what does that do is it gets loud it FkDfkmnHXGU-00722-00160984-00161254 gets confusing it gets where you don't FkDfkmnHXGU-00723-00161255-00161447 know what's going but what's happening FkDfkmnHXGU-00724-00161448-00161654 in this moment of loudness what's FkDfkmnHXGU-00725-00161655-00161871 happening in this moment of chatter FkDfkmnHXGU-00726-00161872-00162039 what's happening in this moment of FkDfkmnHXGU-00727-00162040-00162454 disruption is folks are understanding FkDfkmnHXGU-00728-00162455-00162678 the acts of god FkDfkmnHXGU-00729-00162679-00162999 so god is glorified FkDfkmnHXGU-00730-00163000-00163166 okay i preached again FkDfkmnHXGU-00731-00163167-00163335 well and they're attracted to it right FkDfkmnHXGU-00732-00163336-00163526 it's it's drawing people in it draws FkDfkmnHXGU-00733-00163527-00163726 people in yeah and they want to hear it FkDfkmnHXGU-00734-00163727-00163943 and then there's also but the key FkDfkmnHXGU-00735-00163944-00164078 question then is FkDfkmnHXGU-00736-00164079-00164263 what does this mean yeah right that's FkDfkmnHXGU-00737-00164264-00164463 what launches peter's pentecost sermon FkDfkmnHXGU-00738-00164464-00164678 exactly what does this mean okay we get FkDfkmnHXGU-00739-00164679-00164902 that we're hearing stuff this is strange FkDfkmnHXGU-00740-00164903-00165119 and we're we're hearing FkDfkmnHXGU-00741-00165120-00165278 this idea of the deeds of god but what FkDfkmnHXGU-00742-00165279-00165502 does this mean like why here why now why FkDfkmnHXGU-00743-00165503-00165735 this place which is where peter now says FkDfkmnHXGU-00744-00165736-00165911 this is a christian thing right this is FkDfkmnHXGU-00745-00165912-00166126 connected to christ FkDfkmnHXGU-00746-00166127-00166414 crucified raised and ascended so it's FkDfkmnHXGU-00747-00166415-00166535 there's still that work right you still FkDfkmnHXGU-00748-00166536-00166711 need a preacher to walk in and answer FkDfkmnHXGU-00749-00166712-00166919 what does this mean question FkDfkmnHXGU-00750-00166920-00167126 which takes me to my next point do it i FkDfkmnHXGU-00751-00167127-00167247 just remember yeah and then we still FkDfkmnHXGU-00752-00167248-00167438 have that inclusion FkDfkmnHXGU-00753-00167439-00167654 so hold on to that FkDfkmnHXGU-00754-00167655-00167966 amazed and astonished FkDfkmnHXGU-00755-00167967-00168166 what amazes FkDfkmnHXGU-00756-00168167-00168414 and astonishes people FkDfkmnHXGU-00757-00168415-00168614 about the witness FkDfkmnHXGU-00758-00168615-00168951 of the church today FkDfkmnHXGU-00759-00168952-00169254 it's not good FkDfkmnHXGU-00760-00169255-00169511 i mean i mean it's it's FkDfkmnHXGU-00761-00169512-00169766 we're guilty of being hypocritical FkDfkmnHXGU-00762-00169767-00170023 we're guilty of being judgmental we're FkDfkmnHXGU-00763-00170024-00170359 guilty of being arrogant we're built FkDfkmnHXGU-00764-00170360-00170671 guilty of being closed FkDfkmnHXGU-00765-00170672-00170943 it's interesting in this text FkDfkmnHXGU-00766-00170944-00171343 what they are accused of FkDfkmnHXGU-00767-00171344-00171454 they're not FkDfkmnHXGU-00768-00171455-00171766 guilty of FkDfkmnHXGU-00769-00171767-00171895 they're drunk FkDfkmnHXGU-00770-00171896-00172119 oh i see no you're not they're not drunk FkDfkmnHXGU-00771-00172120-00172399 this is something really we should not FkDfkmnHXGU-00772-00172400-00172495 be FkDfkmnHXGU-00773-00172496-00172743 hypocrites we should not be judgmental FkDfkmnHXGU-00774-00172744-00173023 we should not be these things that seem FkDfkmnHXGU-00775-00173024-00173183 to be what people are amazed and FkDfkmnHXGU-00776-00173184-00173407 astonished about FkDfkmnHXGU-00777-00173408-00173502 what FkDfkmnHXGU-00778-00173503-00173807 then should we be doing that would make FkDfkmnHXGU-00779-00173808-00174023 people amazed FkDfkmnHXGU-00780-00174024-00174190 and astonished FkDfkmnHXGU-00781-00174191-00174454 that would bring glory to god FkDfkmnHXGU-00782-00174455-00174638 and that becomes the work of the FkDfkmnHXGU-00783-00174639-00174966 preacher to say when christ shows up FkDfkmnHXGU-00784-00174967-00175278 when the spirit of god falls upon us FkDfkmnHXGU-00785-00175279-00175543 it's good it's inclusive it's every FkDfkmnHXGU-00786-00175544-00176014 tongue it's every tribe it's all filled FkDfkmnHXGU-00787-00176015-00176463 that becomes good news FkDfkmnHXGU-00788-00176464-00176623 well one of the things that will bring FkDfkmnHXGU-00789-00176624-00176926 ralph back is if we um say a lot of FkDfkmnHXGU-00790-00176927-00177031 really dumb things about the old FkDfkmnHXGU-00791-00177032-00177175 testament texts FkDfkmnHXGU-00792-00177176-00177287 which i'm really FkDfkmnHXGU-00793-00177288-00177438 willing to be guilty are you going to do FkDfkmnHXGU-00794-00177439-00177575 that can i just say one thing like you FkDfkmnHXGU-00795-00177576-00177799 don't have to read the babel text in FkDfkmnHXGU-00796-00177800-00177983 genesis 11 if you want to skip it and FkDfkmnHXGU-00797-00177984-00178311 avoid that uncomfortable FkDfkmnHXGU-00798-00178312-00178519 except for i want to say i want to take FkDfkmnHXGU-00799-00178520-00178671 a position but if you've got something FkDfkmnHXGU-00800-00178672-00178814 to say about it i want to hear it i want FkDfkmnHXGU-00801-00178815-00178983 to take a position somewhere ralph is FkDfkmnHXGU-00802-00178984-00179183 getting closer we need listening right FkDfkmnHXGU-00803-00179184-00179351 now going what is she going to mess this FkDfkmnHXGU-00804-00179352-00179535 up with um but FkDfkmnHXGU-00805-00179536-00179831 that this one tongue idea FkDfkmnHXGU-00806-00179832-00179935 um FkDfkmnHXGU-00807-00179936-00180231 is that it brought folks together and FkDfkmnHXGU-00808-00180232-00180438 this is really where the question of FkDfkmnHXGU-00809-00180439-00180711 glorifying god comes up for me FkDfkmnHXGU-00810-00180712-00180966 it brought folks together FkDfkmnHXGU-00811-00180967-00181359 in a unified language but to do things FkDfkmnHXGU-00812-00181360-00181663 to make a name for ourselves FkDfkmnHXGU-00813-00181664-00181990 not to bring glory to god so it's not a FkDfkmnHXGU-00814-00181991-00182119 curse FkDfkmnHXGU-00815-00182120-00182423 god isn't cursing god is saying if FkDfkmnHXGU-00816-00182424-00182766 humanity keeps going down this way it's FkDfkmnHXGU-00817-00182767-00182983 going to get worse FkDfkmnHXGU-00818-00182984-00183278 we've got to put a stop to it and if we FkDfkmnHXGU-00819-00183279-00183583 pay attention to this promise of god FkDfkmnHXGU-00820-00183584-00183943 being good news it explains why the FkDfkmnHXGU-00821-00183944-00184431 promise in genesis 12 is for all nations FkDfkmnHXGU-00822-00184432-00184631 to be blessed so the first time god FkDfkmnHXGU-00823-00184632-00184847 loves the world is not when jesus is FkDfkmnHXGU-00824-00184848-00185087 born in you know it says in into to FkDfkmnHXGU-00825-00185088-00185343 nicodemus god so loves the world it's FkDfkmnHXGU-00826-00185344-00185543 way back here where god's love for the FkDfkmnHXGU-00827-00185544-00185671 world says FkDfkmnHXGU-00828-00185672-00185854 this way of going is going to bring FkDfkmnHXGU-00829-00185855-00186159 disaster and so i'm going to intervene FkDfkmnHXGU-00830-00186160-00186463 i'm going to start dividing tongues FkDfkmnHXGU-00831-00186464-00186663 and i'm going to preserve FkDfkmnHXGU-00832-00186664-00186902 my story with these people FkDfkmnHXGU-00833-00186903-00187063 for the sake FkDfkmnHXGU-00834-00187064-00187431 of all the world and that becomes the FkDfkmnHXGU-00835-00187432-00187719 prologue to the rest of the story that FkDfkmnHXGU-00836-00187720-00187911 begins in genesis 12 FkDfkmnHXGU-00837-00187912-00188183 and and is the people of israel so FkDfkmnHXGU-00838-00188184-00188423 um that that that's one way of looking FkDfkmnHXGU-00839-00188424-00188638 at it yeah that works FkDfkmnHXGU-00840-00188639-00188831 yep totally work well if you want to get FkDfkmnHXGU-00841-00188832-00189007 into the question of hegemony right or FkDfkmnHXGU-00842-00189008-00189263 sameness and the problem of that and and FkDfkmnHXGU-00843-00189264-00189471 what that does to people who don't fit FkDfkmnHXGU-00844-00189472-00189599 and what kind of arrogance that can FkDfkmnHXGU-00845-00189600-00189878 breed vis-a-vis yeah all that stuff is FkDfkmnHXGU-00846-00189879-00190183 i'm really taken to in in this story FkDfkmnHXGU-00847-00190184-00190511 about the uh with the images FkDfkmnHXGU-00848-00190512-00190854 of the the contrast between cities and FkDfkmnHXGU-00849-00190855-00190983 towers FkDfkmnHXGU-00850-00190984-00191159 and scatteredness FkDfkmnHXGU-00851-00191160-00191511 and uh and how that how is it that that FkDfkmnHXGU-00852-00191512-00191671 how is it that a city in a tower FkDfkmnHXGU-00853-00191672-00191926 represents that capacity or that FkDfkmnHXGU-00854-00191927-00192126 human desire for FkDfkmnHXGU-00855-00192127-00192423 that location and that uh and and that FkDfkmnHXGU-00856-00192424-00192663 kind of um FkDfkmnHXGU-00857-00192664-00192878 representation of FkDfkmnHXGU-00858-00192879-00193287 of power or representation of of that FkDfkmnHXGU-00859-00193288-00193566 kind of control and yet scatteredness FkDfkmnHXGU-00860-00193567-00193735 has a sense of FkDfkmnHXGU-00861-00193736-00193926 uncontrol FkDfkmnHXGU-00862-00193927-00194190 and uh and so that might be a direction FkDfkmnHXGU-00863-00194191-00194487 to go too in terms of of FkDfkmnHXGU-00864-00194488-00194678 how the test how the text speaks the FkDfkmnHXGU-00865-00194679-00194838 truth about FkDfkmnHXGU-00866-00194839-00195071 our human propensity toward that and so FkDfkmnHXGU-00867-00195072-00195295 that image those images really work for FkDfkmnHXGU-00868-00195296-00195487 me too all right so FkDfkmnHXGU-00869-00195488-00195695 do we want to talk about psalm 104 FkDfkmnHXGU-00870-00195696-00195902 i have an answer i have an idea FkDfkmnHXGU-00871-00195903-00196111 what's your idea FkDfkmnHXGU-00872-00196112-00196254 oh dear FkDfkmnHXGU-00873-00196255-00196350 why don't we just FkDfkmnHXGU-00874-00196351-00196511 we have everything let's have let's have FkDfkmnHXGU-00875-00196512-00196702 the audience say it in unison everybody FkDfkmnHXGU-00876-00196703-00196790 say FkDfkmnHXGU-00877-00196791-00197031 liturgically FkDfkmnHXGU-00878-00197032-00197190 yes yes FkDfkmnHXGU-00879-00197191-00197366 although it wasn't even set up that FkDfkmnHXGU-00880-00197367-00197550 wasn't even rehearsed no it wasn't no we FkDfkmnHXGU-00881-00197551-00197759 didn't even rehearse that uh well yeah FkDfkmnHXGU-00882-00197760-00197950 14 years of doing certain brainwave and FkDfkmnHXGU-00883-00197951-00198126 you've got them right where you want it FkDfkmnHXGU-00884-00198127-00198343 liturgically but uh FkDfkmnHXGU-00885-00198344-00198735 but i have actually a specific idea okay FkDfkmnHXGU-00886-00198736-00199023 not just generally use it liturgically FkDfkmnHXGU-00887-00199024-00199223 because you've got a lot going on uh FkDfkmnHXGU-00888-00199224-00199343 with with FkDfkmnHXGU-00889-00199344-00199631 pentecost anyway but FkDfkmnHXGU-00890-00199632-00199935 is there a way in the worship service FkDfkmnHXGU-00891-00199936-00200135 that you could use this FkDfkmnHXGU-00892-00200136-00200487 uh use this as a refrain FkDfkmnHXGU-00893-00200488-00200766 i am in particularly i'm looking at FkDfkmnHXGU-00894-00200767-00201071 verse 29 and 30. FkDfkmnHXGU-00895-00201072-00201302 so to paraphrase that a little bit and FkDfkmnHXGU-00896-00201303-00201590 do something along the lines of FkDfkmnHXGU-00897-00201591-00201847 when you take away FkDfkmnHXGU-00898-00201848-00202238 when you take away your breath FkDfkmnHXGU-00899-00202239-00202550 we die FkDfkmnHXGU-00900-00202551-00202823 but when you send forth your spirit we FkDfkmnHXGU-00901-00202824-00203119 are created or we are recreated and i'm FkDfkmnHXGU-00902-00203120-00203287 wondering if that could be a refrain FkDfkmnHXGU-00903-00203288-00203447 throughout the service FkDfkmnHXGU-00904-00203448-00203775 i as a as an opening a call to worship FkDfkmnHXGU-00905-00203776-00203854 or FkDfkmnHXGU-00906-00203855-00204054 and just bringing that throughout the FkDfkmnHXGU-00907-00204055-00204375 entire service as a recognition of of FkDfkmnHXGU-00908-00204376-00204575 another way to think about pentecost FkDfkmnHXGU-00909-00204576-00204871 right is god's very in breathing of FkDfkmnHXGU-00910-00204871-00204998 god's breath FkDfkmnHXGU-00911-00205000-00205271 uh and uh which of course you get in the FkDfkmnHXGU-00912-00205271-00205519 in the john text but that's that's huge FkDfkmnHXGU-00913-00205519-00205758 for the old testament right is that the FkDfkmnHXGU-00914-00205759-00206031 very breath of god is what brings the FkDfkmnHXGU-00915-00206032-00206238 dust guy to life FkDfkmnHXGU-00916-00206239-00206527 the very breath of god is what brings FkDfkmnHXGU-00917-00206528-00206775 the dry bones back to life FkDfkmnHXGU-00918-00206776-00207142 and in ezekiel 37 it's the same verb FkDfkmnHXGU-00919-00207144-00207527 and i and so and and what would it sound FkDfkmnHXGU-00920-00207528-00207751 like for the congregation to say you FkDfkmnHXGU-00921-00207752-00208086 take your breath away and we die FkDfkmnHXGU-00922-00208087-00208342 you you send forth your breath and we FkDfkmnHXGU-00923-00208344-00208542 live again yeah i think that could be FkDfkmnHXGU-00924-00208544-00208871 powerful wow that's powerful FkDfkmnHXGU-00925-00208871-00209031 that's much better than what i got FkDfkmnHXGU-00926-00209032-00209206 caught up on on that one i'll just say FkDfkmnHXGU-00927-00209207-00209342 that um FkDfkmnHXGU-00928-00209344-00209575 i did appreciate that there was so much FkDfkmnHXGU-00929-00209576-00209823 god that is described in this psalm but FkDfkmnHXGU-00930-00209823-00210127 i just got stuck at the fact that FkDfkmnHXGU-00931-00210128-00210294 as we were naming everything and it was FkDfkmnHXGU-00932-00210296-00210463 naming all the creatures and all it FkDfkmnHXGU-00933-00210464-00210671 named the creepy things again it's like FkDfkmnHXGU-00934-00210671-00210894 why god FkDfkmnHXGU-00935-00210896-00211079 so i really like your liturgical frame FkDfkmnHXGU-00936-00211080-00211294 yes the creepy things they're always FkDfkmnHXGU-00937-00211296-00211463 here FkDfkmnHXGU-00938-00211464-00211567 creepy FkDfkmnHXGU-00939-00211567-00211791 spider creepy i'll just say the spirit FkDfkmnHXGU-00940-00211792-00211951 of god is good for life and that's part FkDfkmnHXGU-00941-00211952-00212119 of what the whole psalm is about right FkDfkmnHXGU-00942-00212119-00212327 this idea of god is a creative and FkDfkmnHXGU-00943-00212328-00212503 sustaining force FkDfkmnHXGU-00944-00212504-00212734 so yeah i won't talk about any critters FkDfkmnHXGU-00945-00212735-00212887 though FkDfkmnHXGU-00946-00212888-00213110 we did that in a recent podcast yes i FkDfkmnHXGU-00947-00213111-00213406 think has yet to be aired FkDfkmnHXGU-00948-00213407-00213551 all right romans FkDfkmnHXGU-00949-00213552-00213879 chapter oh goodness so much to say FkDfkmnHXGU-00950-00213880-00214006 another really different take on the FkDfkmnHXGU-00951-00214007-00214158 spirit though right the spirit is this FkDfkmnHXGU-00952-00214159-00214351 pledge of adoption the spirit is a FkDfkmnHXGU-00953-00214352-00214631 marker of your FkDfkmnHXGU-00954-00214632-00214806 child ship FkDfkmnHXGU-00955-00214807-00214951 of of of FkDfkmnHXGU-00956-00214952-00215246 one of god's children and not only that FkDfkmnHXGU-00957-00215248-00215503 but a joint heir with christ yeah and FkDfkmnHXGU-00958-00215504-00215663 the commentary oh go ahead yeah really FkDfkmnHXGU-00959-00215664-00215775 quick the commentary just talks about FkDfkmnHXGU-00960-00215776-00215975 all these these compound FkDfkmnHXGU-00961-00215976-00216182 verbs of with that all these things FkDfkmnHXGU-00962-00216183-00216358 happen with we do this with god with FkDfkmnHXGU-00963-00216359-00216582 with with we belong with god now that's FkDfkmnHXGU-00964-00216583-00216767 just what i was going to oh so sorry i FkDfkmnHXGU-00965-00216767-00216927 stole it from the commentary no no that FkDfkmnHXGU-00966-00216928-00217334 the commentary uh really helps us to see FkDfkmnHXGU-00967-00217335-00217567 the levels of intimacy here FkDfkmnHXGU-00968-00217567-00217758 uh and another way to think about the FkDfkmnHXGU-00969-00217759-00218119 spirit is that is bringing us into this FkDfkmnHXGU-00970-00218119-00218391 intimacy with god and with jesus FkDfkmnHXGU-00971-00218392-00218646 and and and how does that and what does FkDfkmnHXGU-00972-00218648-00218903 that mean and so you've got the verbs as FkDfkmnHXGU-00973-00218904-00219103 children of god right but also abba FkDfkmnHXGU-00974-00219104-00219263 father that's the other FkDfkmnHXGU-00975-00219264-00219631 intimate thing but in uh verse 16 that FkDfkmnHXGU-00976-00219632-00219855 very spirit bearing witness with our FkDfkmnHXGU-00977-00219856-00220087 spirit so that's one one of the with FkDfkmnHXGU-00978-00220088-00220231 verbs FkDfkmnHXGU-00979-00220232-00220679 the other one is joint is we suffer with FkDfkmnHXGU-00980-00220680-00220775 with FkDfkmnHXGU-00981-00220776-00221063 uh with jesus and that also glorify with FkDfkmnHXGU-00982-00221064-00221215 so those are all these FkDfkmnHXGU-00983-00221216-00221446 sum or soon verbs FkDfkmnHXGU-00984-00221448-00221742 and then uh and then also it the errors FkDfkmnHXGU-00985-00221744-00222127 of god and then joint heirs is also FkDfkmnHXGU-00986-00222128-00222415 uh soon errors FkDfkmnHXGU-00987-00222416-00222646 so it's another soon verb as soon as s FkDfkmnHXGU-00988-00222648-00222751 you know as FkDfkmnHXGU-00989-00222752-00222991 y'all following me s-u-n FkDfkmnHXGU-00990-00222992-00223087 with FkDfkmnHXGU-00991-00223088-00223182 okay good FkDfkmnHXGU-00992-00223183-00223471 but yeah i mean so this piling on of FkDfkmnHXGU-00993-00223471-00223719 these soon soon verbs FkDfkmnHXGU-00994-00223719-00223798 uh FkDfkmnHXGU-00995-00223800-00224039 is a way rhetorically right to emphasize FkDfkmnHXGU-00996-00224040-00224406 that intimacy and i'm just going to FkDfkmnHXGU-00997-00224407-00224575 focus uh on FkDfkmnHXGU-00998-00224576-00224782 verse 15 where it says you don't receive FkDfkmnHXGU-00999-00224783-00224998 a spirit of slavery FkDfkmnHXGU-01000-00225000-00225287 uh to fall back into uh to to fear and FkDfkmnHXGU-01001-00225288-00225503 i'm just going to lift this up because FkDfkmnHXGU-01002-00225504-00225782 to not be enslaved means that we are not FkDfkmnHXGU-01003-00225783-00226263 it we what is removed is the demand FkDfkmnHXGU-01004-00226264-00226471 and i would like to uh FkDfkmnHXGU-01005-00226471-00226751 replace the idea that so much is that FkDfkmnHXGU-01006-00226752-00226991 this is what you have to do if you are FkDfkmnHXGU-01007-00226992-00227167 filled with the spirit it looks like FkDfkmnHXGU-01008-00227167-00227382 this and it's going to be this way and FkDfkmnHXGU-01009-00227383-00227623 you're going to do these things FkDfkmnHXGU-01010-00227623-00227951 and ask again using the words from uh FkDfkmnHXGU-01011-00227952-00228142 from um uh FkDfkmnHXGU-01012-00228144-00228358 what was it x um FkDfkmnHXGU-01013-00228359-00228703 what is compelling us FkDfkmnHXGU-01014-00228704-00229055 that would amaze and astonish so rather FkDfkmnHXGU-01015-00229056-00229231 than demand FkDfkmnHXGU-01016-00229232-00229406 and require FkDfkmnHXGU-01017-00229407-00229734 to be so filled that folks are FkDfkmnHXGU-01018-00229735-00229982 astonished and amazed that they are FkDfkmnHXGU-01019-00229983-00230406 compelled to receive with god what will FkDfkmnHXGU-01020-00230407-00230742 glorify god yeah and and all and when FkDfkmnHXGU-01021-00230744-00231046 you think about that like the verse 14 FkDfkmnHXGU-01022-00231048-00231279 for all who are led by the spirit that's FkDfkmnHXGU-01023-00231280-00231527 a present yeah passive participle like FkDfkmnHXGU-01024-00231528-00231710 so it again it goes back to what we were FkDfkmnHXGU-01025-00231711-00231879 talking about earlier about pentecost is FkDfkmnHXGU-01026-00231880-00232046 not just this one day FkDfkmnHXGU-01027-00232048-00232342 but it's it's it reminds you of of FkDfkmnHXGU-01028-00232344-00232567 phrases in like galatians where jesus FkDfkmnHXGU-01029-00232567-00232782 where jesus paul same difference but FkDfkmnHXGU-01030-00232783-00233094 when paul says uh when paul paul doesn't FkDfkmnHXGU-01031-00233096-00233391 say if you are in the spirit no since FkDfkmnHXGU-01032-00233392-00233646 you are in the spirit and that that that FkDfkmnHXGU-01033-00233648-00233798 spirit leads FkDfkmnHXGU-01034-00233800-00234023 and what kind of awesomeness right will FkDfkmnHXGU-01035-00234023-00234231 the spirit lead the church into FkDfkmnHXGU-01036-00234232-00234604 professing and testifying FlPZ4X681dg-00000-00000007-00000399 it killed mcduck agent FlPZ4X681dg-00001-00000400-00000932 hello I'm Lux and I'm a member and I'm FlPZ4X681dg-00002-00000933-00001136 totally not a kelpy I promise FlPZ4X681dg-00003-00001137-00001547 wanna go swimming and this is our FlPZ4X681dg-00004-00001548-00002005 thoughts on Disney's DuckTales reboot FlPZ4X681dg-00005-00002007-00002489 season 1 episodes 12 and 13 the missing FlPZ4X681dg-00006-00002490-00002897 links of more Shire and Mick mystery at FlPZ4X681dg-00007-00002898-00003463 mcduck Manor I must say that oh my god FlPZ4X681dg-00008-00003464-00003781 Launchpad I couldn't stop laughing in FlPZ4X681dg-00009-00003782-00004684 this episode every time Launchpad spoke FlPZ4X681dg-00010-00004685-00005051 like tasty eggs and then something FlPZ4X681dg-00011-00005052-00005366 something something something I haven't FlPZ4X681dg-00012-00005367-00005593 in a while so I'm thinking he hadn't in FlPZ4X681dg-00013-00005594-00005750 a while because he was snacking FlPZ4X681dg-00014-00005751-00006070 throughout the episode so eaten in a FlPZ4X681dg-00015-00006071-00006406 while or hasn't had eggs in a while cuz FlPZ4X681dg-00016-00006408-00006721 you know he comes back into the golf FlPZ4X681dg-00017-00006722-00007073 cart with a hot dog I love how he's also FlPZ4X681dg-00018-00007073-00007303 the one to deliver the actual message of FlPZ4X681dg-00019-00007304-00007771 the episode it's very fun and Huey is FlPZ4X681dg-00020-00007772-00007999 like well that's variants all god you're FlPZ4X681dg-00021-00008000-00008309 choking on golf balls we have a wow FlPZ4X681dg-00022-00008310-00008510 that's an incredible moment from FlPZ4X681dg-00023-00008511-00008749 launchpad oh no we're back to normal I FlPZ4X681dg-00024-00008750-00008984 also love the I just like talking in FlPZ4X681dg-00025-00008985-00009139 this voice because everything I say FlPZ4X681dg-00026-00009140-00009308 sounds important and I can't remember FlPZ4X681dg-00027-00009309-00010045 the two words he says baloney trampoline FlPZ4X681dg-00028-00010046-00010433 episode overall was fun and great Easter FlPZ4X681dg-00029-00010434-00010660 Egg for those the pony persuasion terror FlPZ4X681dg-00030-00010661-00010973 strong and Andrea Lippmann voiced the FlPZ4X681dg-00031-00010974-00011285 purple pony and Pony respectively so FlPZ4X681dg-00032-00011286-00011660 they were ponies they were clothes they FlPZ4X681dg-00033-00011661-00011927 were the right colors I love how webby FlPZ4X681dg-00034-00011928-00012263 like actually everyone except for glom FlPZ4X681dg-00035-00012264-00012802 gold was like yeah can we like ditch the FlPZ4X681dg-00036-00012803-00013144 murder ponies yeah I love the we're able FlPZ4X681dg-00037-00013145-00013321 to say that in the episode FlPZ4X681dg-00038-00013322-00013638 I always love the fact that death is not FlPZ4X681dg-00039-00013640-00013863 a problem for this show you could FlPZ4X681dg-00040-00013865-00014049 literally say that character has died FlPZ4X681dg-00041-00014050-00014209 also FlPZ4X681dg-00042-00014210-00014551 Duckworth is probably evil just based on FlPZ4X681dg-00043-00014552-00014743 what we've experienced so far and how FlPZ4X681dg-00044-00014744-00014916 he's portrayed in the intro which is FlPZ4X681dg-00045-00014918-00015144 something amber picked up on we have to FlPZ4X681dg-00046-00015146-00015352 watch the intro again and I'm like okay FlPZ4X681dg-00047-00015353-00015559 he's in the intro thing for a brief FlPZ4X681dg-00048-00015560-00016147 second yeah yes a little slow on the FlPZ4X681dg-00049-00016147-00016420 uptake yeah just a little I I recognised FlPZ4X681dg-00050-00016421-00016516 Beeks FlPZ4X681dg-00051-00016517-00016681 I took us to get to remember that and FlPZ4X681dg-00052-00016682-00016810 impre had to remind me because his FlPZ4X681dg-00053-00016811-00016945 name's like not important enough for me FlPZ4X681dg-00054-00016946-00017140 to remember because I'm like he's just FlPZ4X681dg-00055-00017141-00017416 the evil billionaire guy he's fun to FlPZ4X681dg-00056-00017417-00017632 watch but other than that like you're FlPZ4X681dg-00057-00017633-00017989 you're not you're about shallow as a FlPZ4X681dg-00058-00017990-00018292 poorly dug grave you know the kind you FlPZ4X681dg-00059-00018293-00018688 dig with a archaeologists brush so his FlPZ4X681dg-00060-00018689-00018865 name's doesn't stick in my head also FlPZ4X681dg-00061-00018866-00019228 he's brand new so he doesn't stick in my FlPZ4X681dg-00062-00019229-00019518 head like established characters from FlPZ4X681dg-00063-00019519-00019768 earlier iterations of the French like FlPZ4X681dg-00064-00019769-00019938 bomb gold and mrs. Beakley FlPZ4X681dg-00065-00019939-00020404 which I didn't recognize I also like how FlPZ4X681dg-00066-00020405-00020659 his beard inflated because we've seen it FlPZ4X681dg-00067-00020660-00021037 be removed and put back on before say is FlPZ4X681dg-00068-00021038-00021361 it real at all or does he just have it FlPZ4X681dg-00069-00021362-00021508 because he thinks it makes him look more FlPZ4X681dg-00070-00021509-00021793 Scottish I think that's it because he's FlPZ4X681dg-00071-00021794-00021985 like I we were like I quoted in the FlPZ4X681dg-00072-00021986-00022318 intro I wore a kilt McDuck basically I FlPZ4X681dg-00073-00022319-00022941 am going to out do you everything yeah FlPZ4X681dg-00074-00022942-00023230 also the fact that apparently one of FlPZ4X681dg-00075-00023231-00023404 their ancestors that was basically dark FlPZ4X681dg-00076-00023405-00023827 duck was the guy who invented golf it FlPZ4X681dg-00077-00023828-00024258 makes sense it's just all that anger FlPZ4X681dg-00078-00024259-00024736 then they banned golf everyone guesses FlPZ4X681dg-00079-00024737-00024940 everything the ponies are gonna say hey FlPZ4X681dg-00080-00024941-00025264 boys like oh you just said that you guys FlPZ4X681dg-00081-00025265-00025653 are like the least fun victims ever they FlPZ4X681dg-00082-00025654-00025780 must have had so much fun with those FlPZ4X681dg-00083-00025781-00026176 parts like really hear it in their FlPZ4X681dg-00084-00026177-00026419 voices they're like so happy to play FlPZ4X681dg-00085-00026420-00026648 these FlPZ4X681dg-00086-00026649-00027115 - playful plays it's great hustle subnet FlPZ4X681dg-00087-00027116-00027254 but so we're like yeah we're gonna make FlPZ4X681dg-00088-00027255-00027533 my house live apart where they're gonna FlPZ4X681dg-00089-00027533-00028189 like you he's like nope is like got the FlPZ4X681dg-00090-00028191-00028627 camera still they were carrier on the FlPZ4X681dg-00091-00028628-00029123 front of the golf cart so much fun it FlPZ4X681dg-00092-00029124-00029273 was fun but then I start talking about FlPZ4X681dg-00093-00029274-00030104 it I'm like okay golf off okay glom gold FlPZ4X681dg-00094-00030105-00030299 is going to try to kill Scrooge FlPZ4X681dg-00095-00030300-00030712 oh wait that's not the plot because FlPZ4X681dg-00096-00030713-00031073 that's usually the plot and I love how FlPZ4X681dg-00097-00031074-00031618 he fires his caddy and Louie is like FlPZ4X681dg-00098-00031619-00032192 yeah how about you'll be my caddy for FlPZ4X681dg-00099-00032193-00032596 this how about I pay you hey if I'm FlPZ4X681dg-00100-00032597-00032839 gonna be bored anyways at least get paid FlPZ4X681dg-00101-00032840-00033101 for it and then continues to collect the FlPZ4X681dg-00102-00033102-00033398 entire time the only time I had an issue FlPZ4X681dg-00103-00033399-00033701 with him it was for plot reasons was the FlPZ4X681dg-00104-00033702-00033923 whole shouting part like just hit the FlPZ4X681dg-00105-00033924-00034067 ball already though it just fit within FlPZ4X681dg-00106-00034068-00034258 his character so it's not really that FlPZ4X681dg-00107-00034259-00034532 bad it was just the ones like oh and FlPZ4X681dg-00108-00034533-00034712 then oh this is how we get the plot FlPZ4X681dg-00109-00034713-00035074 started just hit the ball very in FlPZ4X681dg-00110-00035075-00035299 character because he's like okay we FlPZ4X681dg-00111-00035300-00035495 can't go home until you guys finish the FlPZ4X681dg-00112-00035496-00035801 game so hit the ball already also the FlPZ4X681dg-00113-00035802-00036137 whole fun bit of home go clearly FlPZ4X681dg-00114-00036138-00036685 switching out the coin and calling tails FlPZ4X681dg-00115-00036686-00036932 the announcement throughout the entire FlPZ4X681dg-00116-00036933-00037174 episode was great not just because the FlPZ4X681dg-00117-00037175-00037308 launch pad but because of how FlPZ4X681dg-00118-00037309-00037673 professional Huey was I hope they got FlPZ4X681dg-00119-00037674-00037840 enough footage that he was actually able FlPZ4X681dg-00120-00037841-00038123 to earn this badge mm-hmm I also love FlPZ4X681dg-00121-00038124-00038395 the fact that are you still doing that FlPZ4X681dg-00122-00038396-00038596 I'm doing it because it helps keep me FlPZ4X681dg-00123-00038597-00038952 grounded in a really crazy situation FlPZ4X681dg-00124-00038953-00039199 control yes very important in these FlPZ4X681dg-00125-00039200-00039368 out-of-control situations FlPZ4X681dg-00126-00039369-00039562 it sounds like we both had a lot of fun FlPZ4X681dg-00127-00039563-00039733 with this episode so the ultimate FlPZ4X681dg-00128-00039734-00039984 question any niche FlPZ4X681dg-00129-00039985-00040305 oh just the part where it's a tiny bit FlPZ4X681dg-00130-00040306-00040692 contrived that oh look we just happened FlPZ4X681dg-00131-00040693-00040875 to have knocked the ball inside this FlPZ4X681dg-00132-00040876-00041205 mystical circle and I step inside and oh FlPZ4X681dg-00133-00041206-00041454 we just happened to get transported to a FlPZ4X681dg-00134-00041455-00041892 PHA golf realm kirtibhai to kill Peas FlPZ4X681dg-00135-00041893-00042204 and my Scottish mythology is a little FlPZ4X681dg-00136-00042205-00042495 weak so I was like I need to FlPZ4X681dg-00137-00042496-00042690 double-check that that's the water FlPZ4X681dg-00138-00042691-00042903 murder horse from some of my short FlPZ4X681dg-00139-00042904-00043164 stories oh yeah that is the water murder FlPZ4X681dg-00140-00043165-00043497 horse that has shape-shifting ability so FlPZ4X681dg-00141-00043498-00043704 it's not necessarily always a horse just FlPZ4X681dg-00142-00043705-00043977 like webby the moment I was like there FlPZ4X681dg-00143-00043978-00044457 means are wet yeah I was like that was FlPZ4X681dg-00144-00044458-00044679 off because webby did the typical girl FlPZ4X681dg-00145-00044680-00044928 reaction of oh my god ukitake cannibals FlPZ4X681dg-00146-00044929-00045291 and then wait a second also webbie's FlPZ4X681dg-00147-00045292-00045519 reaction to yeah I've never actually FlPZ4X681dg-00148-00045520-00045840 been to a sport before and she's doing FlPZ4X681dg-00149-00045841-00046094 all the types of things you do it more FlPZ4X681dg-00150-00046095-00046380 she was specifically more acting like FlPZ4X681dg-00151-00046381-00046623 someone who goes to a tee football game FlPZ4X681dg-00152-00046624-00046866 and I'm not talking about American FlPZ4X681dg-00153-00046867-00047187 football no regular football because she FlPZ4X681dg-00154-00047188-00047394 even had one of I don't remember what FlPZ4X681dg-00155-00047395-00047535 they're called but those really annoying FlPZ4X681dg-00156-00047536-00047736 things yeah I'm trying to remember the FlPZ4X681dg-00157-00047737-00048083 names right now but the Bam Bam Bam ow FlPZ4X681dg-00158-00048084-00048288 I'm not even gonna try to replicate the FlPZ4X681dg-00159-00048289-00048468 sound but that's usually the set of FlPZ4X681dg-00160-00048469-00048741 tones that go off and the problem was FlPZ4X681dg-00161-00048742-00049008 how it was getting picked up on the FlPZ4X681dg-00162-00049009-00049386 broadcast speakers when we were getting FlPZ4X681dg-00163-00049387-00049599 them out of a large number at them at FlPZ4X681dg-00164-00049600-00049881 events so any more about this episode or FlPZ4X681dg-00165-00049882-00050169 should we move on to the next one oh you FlPZ4X681dg-00166-00050170-00050379 know as a bit of obvious things are FlPZ4X681dg-00167-00050380-00050688 obvious because Scrooge doesn't like to FlPZ4X681dg-00168-00050689-00050967 be second bested anything tougher than FlPZ4X681dg-00169-00050968-00051120 the tough he's smarter than the Smarties FlPZ4X681dg-00170-00051121-00051420 and this is at least the second time in FlPZ4X681dg-00171-00051421-00051617 the series where he's had to back off FlPZ4X681dg-00172-00051619-00051987 because he backed off at Mount Neverest FlPZ4X681dg-00173-00051988-00052395 hmm was it with the same I think it was FlPZ4X681dg-00174-00052396-00052653 with Dewey as well I think both times it FlPZ4X681dg-00175-00052654-00052904 was Dewey that he was interacting with FlPZ4X681dg-00176-00052904-00053298 no I want to say that that was more with FlPZ4X681dg-00177-00053299-00053355 Huey FlPZ4X681dg-00178-00053357-00053689 he was making the maps the one we know FlPZ4X681dg-00179-00053690-00053928 wasn't was Louie cuz he was busy FlPZ4X681dg-00180-00053929-00054207 defending launchpads FlPZ4X681dg-00181-00054208-00054924 honor such as it is mm-hmm God this show FlPZ4X681dg-00182-00054925-00055414 so much awesome and giving the FlPZ4X681dg-00183-00055415-00055549 characters different ways to bond FlPZ4X681dg-00184-00055550-00055969 because now Scrooge and do we have FlPZ4X681dg-00185-00055970-00056137 something that they would like to do FlPZ4X681dg-00186-00056138-00056434 together so actually building family FlPZ4X681dg-00187-00056435-00056745 connections they don't waste an episode FlPZ4X681dg-00188-00056746-00057040 nope but going to obvious things are FlPZ4X681dg-00189-00057041-00057250 obvious as soon as we saw those golfers FlPZ4X681dg-00190-00057251-00057451 I was like who the statues is there a FlPZ4X681dg-00191-00057452-00057700 Medusa hazard here but that's Greek yeah FlPZ4X681dg-00192-00057701-00057940 that's what I was thinking too but you FlPZ4X681dg-00193-00057941-00058126 know the ponies did warn about the mist FlPZ4X681dg-00194-00058127-00058510 so it's like Medusa hazard or it's the FlPZ4X681dg-00195-00058511-00058753 mist because statues were obviously FlPZ4X681dg-00196-00058754-00058924 people just about to finish their game FlPZ4X681dg-00197-00058925-00059254 because they took too long because golf FlPZ4X681dg-00198-00059254-00059563 moves very slowly so this is the FlPZ4X681dg-00199-00059564-00059770 ultimate pressure game kind like playing FlPZ4X681dg-00200-00059771-00059983 chess upon those clocks well that's how FlPZ4X681dg-00201-00059984-00060216 chess tournaments work you make your FlPZ4X681dg-00202-00060217-00060454 moves as quickly as possible as you make FlPZ4X681dg-00203-00060454-00060715 your move hit the clock hit the ball get FlPZ4X681dg-00204-00060716-00060929 in the cart hit the ball getting hurt FlPZ4X681dg-00205-00060930-00061254 remembering a Robin Williams whole FlPZ4X681dg-00206-00061255-00061558 routine about how golf was invented and FlPZ4X681dg-00207-00061559-00061849 only the Scottish could think of it the FlPZ4X681dg-00208-00061850-00061960 reason it's called a stroke because if FlPZ4X681dg-00209-00061961-00062173 you're gonna let them die every time you FlPZ4X681dg-00210-00062174-00062959 miss Williams no one could see Luxus FlPZ4X681dg-00211-00062960-00063192 salute but moment of silence it's for FlPZ4X681dg-00212-00063194-00063729 the fallen so shall we move on yes yes FlPZ4X681dg-00213-00063730-00064101 let's move on to obvious plot is obvious FlPZ4X681dg-00214-00064102-00064329 except for a dog worth coming back from FlPZ4X681dg-00215-00064330-00064704 the dead yeah he's probably evil now if FlPZ4X681dg-00216-00064705-00064945 he wasn't evil before we don't know FlPZ4X681dg-00217-00064946-00065379 because he could simply be one hell of a FlPZ4X681dg-00218-00065380-00065557 butler FlPZ4X681dg-00219-00065558-00065758 yes need to watch more of that serious FlPZ4X681dg-00220-00065759-00065935 because I've only maybe seen two FlPZ4X681dg-00221-00065936-00066118 episodes and I really liked them but I FlPZ4X681dg-00222-00066119-00066277 think that's all I actually had at the FlPZ4X681dg-00223-00066278-00066529 time so it's one of those ones where FlPZ4X681dg-00224-00066530-00066766 I've heard a lot of FlPZ4X681dg-00225-00066767-00067111 the mangas better hmm so I'm curious to FlPZ4X681dg-00226-00067112-00067336 do a side-by-side comparison you know in FlPZ4X681dg-00227-00067337-00067660 our infinite spare time yes that whole FlPZ4X681dg-00228-00067661-00067993 time machine oh I said that on air never FlPZ4X681dg-00229-00067994-00068035 mind FlPZ4X681dg-00230-00068036-00068807 editing that out say you never said that FlPZ4X681dg-00231-00068808-00069262 Wow I love that nice bait-and-switch the FlPZ4X681dg-00232-00069263-00069478 very beginning of the episode webby a FlPZ4X681dg-00233-00069479-00069676 crossbow sorry FlPZ4X681dg-00234-00069677-00070030 goes back with a bow here was I knew FlPZ4X681dg-00235-00070031-00070243 that was gonna happen I'm like okay FlPZ4X681dg-00236-00070244-00070381 she's just gonna switch it out for a FlPZ4X681dg-00237-00070382-00070588 different weapon I'm like yeah regular FlPZ4X681dg-00238-00070589-00070756 bow it makes more sense because you can FlPZ4X681dg-00239-00070757-00070990 fire more quickly and I love how FlPZ4X681dg-00240-00070991-00071863 donald's is like the way think he took FlPZ4X681dg-00241-00071864-00072157 this is B Cleese car I don't think he FlPZ4X681dg-00242-00072158-00072406 had that car planned also did you notice FlPZ4X681dg-00243-00072407-00072550 the front fountain is filled with gold FlPZ4X681dg-00244-00072551-00072849 coins that donald drove through yeah FlPZ4X681dg-00245-00072850-00073144 yeah this episode I only recognized mark FlPZ4X681dg-00246-00073145-00073644 beaks off the bat yeah yeah and I was FlPZ4X681dg-00247-00073645-00074050 just like I didn't know that would until FlPZ4X681dg-00248-00074051-00074401 we got to the actual reveal in the FlPZ4X681dg-00249-00074402-00074826 episode I'm like luxe going with Bugs FlPZ4X681dg-00250-00074827-00075109 Bunny's advice from the Tiny Toons pilot FlPZ4X681dg-00251-00075110-00075307 villains always fall for cheesy FlPZ4X681dg-00252-00075308-00075625 disguises you're not evil how were you FlPZ4X681dg-00253-00075626-00075694 fooled FlPZ4X681dg-00254-00075695-00076176 what are you ash ketchum I was fooled FlPZ4X681dg-00255-00076177-00076429 because I wasn't thinking and I only FlPZ4X681dg-00256-00076430-00076603 recognized mark Peaks because of his FlPZ4X681dg-00257-00076604-00076897 earphones and the way just the way he FlPZ4X681dg-00258-00076898-00077053 was standing just kind of stood out to FlPZ4X681dg-00259-00077054-00077338 me and I'm surprised I didn't like FlPZ4X681dg-00260-00077339-00077548 realize it when I was looking at the FlPZ4X681dg-00261-00077549-00077751 thumbnail for the episode because FlPZ4X681dg-00262-00077752-00077875 they're all right there FlPZ4X681dg-00263-00077876-00078193 in the thumbnail which I didn't see FlPZ4X681dg-00264-00078194-00078499 otherwise I probably would have known at FlPZ4X681dg-00265-00078500-00078688 the start of the episode but as soon as FlPZ4X681dg-00266-00078689-00079000 they went surprised I was like oh we got FlPZ4X681dg-00267-00079001-00079375 the whole cast here also nice touch on FlPZ4X681dg-00268-00079376-00079832 making fun of all those overly fancy FlPZ4X681dg-00269-00079833-00080132 thematic magicians FlPZ4X681dg-00270-00080133-00080600 like Criss Angel I enjoyed his stuff for FlPZ4X681dg-00271-00080601-00080840 a while then I kind of got over it and I FlPZ4X681dg-00272-00080841-00080993 started watching this other guy who like FlPZ4X681dg-00273-00080994-00081254 did his stuff more seriously but still FlPZ4X681dg-00274-00081255-00081590 with the era of like still public FlPZ4X681dg-00275-00081591-00081746 magicians like right in front of FlPZ4X681dg-00276-00081747-00081941 people's faces kind of magicians but FlPZ4X681dg-00277-00081942-00082172 they call the street magicians this one FlPZ4X681dg-00278-00082173-00082379 guy was famous for this one trick where FlPZ4X681dg-00279-00082380-00082544 he would actually put his hand on the FlPZ4X681dg-00280-00082545-00082912 ground and rotate it all the way around FlPZ4X681dg-00281-00082913-00083213 360 a couple of times and he'd usually FlPZ4X681dg-00282-00083214-00083479 make sure he'd do this in front of FlPZ4X681dg-00283-00083480-00083834 firemen EMTs basically any medical FlPZ4X681dg-00284-00083835-00083954 professional he would do this particular FlPZ4X681dg-00285-00083955-00084179 trick in front of him and I really FlPZ4X681dg-00286-00084180-00084293 enjoyed them because just look on their FlPZ4X681dg-00287-00084294-00084395 faces going that's not medically FlPZ4X681dg-00288-00084396-00084989 possible I really I really liked him for FlPZ4X681dg-00289-00084990-00085193 that he was a little serious but back to FlPZ4X681dg-00290-00085194-00085424 theatrical magicians the ones I really FlPZ4X681dg-00291-00085425-00085544 like are the ones who don't take FlPZ4X681dg-00292-00085545-00085852 themselves seriously like Penn & Teller FlPZ4X681dg-00293-00085853-00086057 there are theatrical magicians because FlPZ4X681dg-00294-00086058-00086249 they also show how the tricks work in FlPZ4X681dg-00295-00086250-00086495 the process it's great it's informative FlPZ4X681dg-00296-00086496-00086926 and fun yes it was both work and play FlPZ4X681dg-00297-00086927-00087179 that was my segue back into the episode FlPZ4X681dg-00298-00087180-00087755 now over to you amber because it was FlPZ4X681dg-00299-00087756-00088193 very obvious to me that except I assume FlPZ4X681dg-00300-00088194-00088436 Scrooge got himself out that was like FlPZ4X681dg-00301-00088437-00088628 Scrooge got himself out he locked them FlPZ4X681dg-00302-00088629-00088757 all in so he could have the house to FlPZ4X681dg-00303-00088758-00089105 himself and then when he started FlPZ4X681dg-00304-00089106-00089285 accusing the wrong people and they were FlPZ4X681dg-00305-00089286-00089531 disappearing I'm like hmm I wonder what FlPZ4X681dg-00306-00089532-00089723 cursed objects fooj has to make that FlPZ4X681dg-00307-00089724-00090074 work I was just thinking he was Scrooge FlPZ4X681dg-00308-00090075-00090263 therefore he would have some sort of FlPZ4X681dg-00309-00090264-00090416 cursed object that would make that work FlPZ4X681dg-00310-00090417-00090662 who says it needed to be cursed Scrooge FlPZ4X681dg-00311-00090663-00090968 is just that's killed yeah but why take FlPZ4X681dg-00312-00090969-00091163 the effort to go back into the room if FlPZ4X681dg-00313-00091164-00091430 you could use a magical MacGuffin oh you FlPZ4X681dg-00314-00091431-00091850 have to work smarter not harder I'm not FlPZ4X681dg-00315-00091851-00092324 sure if Duckworth is evil or not cuz he FlPZ4X681dg-00316-00092325-00092585 he's still doing everything that was FlPZ4X681dg-00317-00092586-00092681 helpful FlPZ4X681dg-00318-00092682-00093041 to Scrooge but apparently he and Beakley FlPZ4X681dg-00319-00093042-00093314 did not get along yeah that's what I got FlPZ4X681dg-00320-00093315-00093504 from that last spot some FlPZ4X681dg-00321-00093505-00093798 thing just like hmm well one he was FlPZ4X681dg-00322-00093799-00094110 immediately insulting her and to her FlPZ4X681dg-00323-00094111-00094341 reply was to walk right through him and FlPZ4X681dg-00324-00094342-00094488 go I preferred it when you were dead FlPZ4X681dg-00325-00094489-00094700 that's another thing this is the Disney FlPZ4X681dg-00326-00094701-00094907 Channel and there are lying words like FlPZ4X681dg-00327-00094908-00095375 murder death kill all the usual words FlPZ4X681dg-00328-00095376-00095769 that get edited out of you already shows FlPZ4X681dg-00329-00095770-00096111 especially children shows yeah I mean FlPZ4X681dg-00330-00096112-00096384 they remove the word death kill and FlPZ4X681dg-00331-00096385-00096794 murder from Naruto on the Cartoon FlPZ4X681dg-00332-00096795-00097082 Network visual edit as opposed to audio FlPZ4X681dg-00333-00097083-00097313 but how about taking the crosses out of FlPZ4X681dg-00334-00097314-00097748 Shaman King a show literally about FlPZ4X681dg-00335-00097749-00097974 interacting with the spirits of the Dead FlPZ4X681dg-00336-00097975-00098148 they love to take out even the stuff FlPZ4X681dg-00337-00098149-00098340 that's not a swastika that looks posh FlPZ4X681dg-00338-00098341-00098688 tikka the luck emblem margin I believe FlPZ4X681dg-00339-00098689-00098900 it's called I think that's it yeah but FlPZ4X681dg-00340-00098901-00099185 yeah but back to this wonderful show FlPZ4X681dg-00341-00099186-00099390 apparently is allowed to do stuff on the FlPZ4X681dg-00342-00099391-00099494 Wow FlPZ4X681dg-00343-00099495-00100004 either FCC rules have been updated or FlPZ4X681dg-00344-00100005-00100422 the people who monitor children's FlPZ4X681dg-00345-00100423-00100755 programming have calmed down a lot but FlPZ4X681dg-00346-00100756-00100887 probably just for the violent stuff FlPZ4X681dg-00347-00100888-00101055 because look at all the what they get FlPZ4X681dg-00348-00101056-00101351 away with for pg-13 movies the FlPZ4X681dg-00349-00101352-00101732 television and movies aren't governed by FlPZ4X681dg-00350-00101733-00101949 the same set of standards yeah I'm just FlPZ4X681dg-00351-00101950-00102309 saying that our society excuse err more FlPZ4X681dg-00352-00102310-00102686 towards the violent punch things hit FlPZ4X681dg-00353-00102688-00102932 things with mallets shoot stuff swords FlPZ4X681dg-00354-00102933-00103256 all that stuff that's a-ok anything that FlPZ4X681dg-00355-00103257-00103365 actually has to do with the real world FlPZ4X681dg-00356-00103366-00103640 not so much and especially not anything FlPZ4X681dg-00357-00103641-00104144 to do with sex ever oh look they're FlPZ4X681dg-00358-00104145-00104490 blushing edit that out the fact that the FlPZ4X681dg-00359-00104491-00104780 helmet got stuck on dewy that that was FlPZ4X681dg-00360-00104781-00104919 great you can't get that helmet off can FlPZ4X681dg-00361-00104920-00104936 you FlPZ4X681dg-00362-00104938-00105927 Oh deaf Punk reference chick yep also FlPZ4X681dg-00363-00105928-00106263 stop smoothing with supposing with the FlPZ4X681dg-00364-00106264-00106494 guess and just serve punch and keep FlPZ4X681dg-00365-00106495-00106715 going back to you literally gave me one FlPZ4X681dg-00366-00106716-00106904 hour to prepare FlPZ4X681dg-00367-00106905-00107168 like why didn't he just grab some FlPZ4X681dg-00368-00107169-00107468 contact book oh he wouldn't have was FlPZ4X681dg-00369-00107469-00107753 like a steel trap and not the joke FlPZ4X681dg-00370-00107754-00108048 version old and rusty but sharp and FlPZ4X681dg-00371-00108049-00108132 never let's go FlPZ4X681dg-00372-00108133-00108362 yeah also he does have lists like that's FlPZ4X681dg-00373-00108363-00108554 probably in his wallet also nice touch FlPZ4X681dg-00374-00108555-00108776 that he left it behind well that was FlPZ4X681dg-00375-00108777-00109020 probably Duckworth's planning because he FlPZ4X681dg-00376-00109021-00109238 took Scrooge out of there also I want to FlPZ4X681dg-00377-00109239-00109398 know what duckworth parties looked like FlPZ4X681dg-00378-00109399-00109610 cuz they're so good so I wanted like FlPZ4X681dg-00379-00109611-00109743 it's been like this FlPZ4X681dg-00380-00109744-00110425 but I also was like ah he was great FlPZ4X681dg-00381-00110426-00110741 that's also a warning there that FlPZ4X681dg-00382-00110742-00110946 Duckworth could be potentially evil if FlPZ4X681dg-00383-00110947-00111362 all the villains like Duckworth and all FlPZ4X681dg-00384-00111363-00112061 hate mrs. Beakley that's nice catch that FlPZ4X681dg-00385-00112062-00112497 took good fun I guess because like so FlPZ4X681dg-00386-00112498-00112727 for everyone that's been in the intro FlPZ4X681dg-00387-00112728-00113048 that's chasing after Scrooge isn't part FlPZ4X681dg-00388-00113049-00113279 of his family it's been on the evil side FlPZ4X681dg-00389-00113280-00113573 so far has been evil or at least twisted FlPZ4X681dg-00390-00113574-00114275 in some way because screwloose seems to FlPZ4X681dg-00391-00114276-00114452 be a bad guy in the intro and so far FlPZ4X681dg-00392-00114453-00114866 he's that way because he's falling down FlPZ4X681dg-00393-00114867-00115331 that path of science before all FlPZ4X681dg-00394-00115332-00115577 something else that's kind of slowly FlPZ4X681dg-00395-00115578-00115814 popping into my head right now is the FlPZ4X681dg-00396-00115815-00116201 thought that maybe this is since Scrooge FlPZ4X681dg-00397-00116202-00116411 has been separated from his family from FlPZ4X681dg-00398-00116412-00116861 so long that he's learned to like rely FlPZ4X681dg-00399-00116862-00117074 on these other people so much that he's FlPZ4X681dg-00400-00117075-00117468 ignored stuff that he wouldn't have to FlPZ4X681dg-00401-00117469-00117803 just have people around him and as it FlPZ4X681dg-00402-00117804-00118004 moves on where his family supposed to FlPZ4X681dg-00403-00118005-00118139 come back into his life and as he's FlPZ4X681dg-00404-00118140-00118328 getting closer to his family these FlPZ4X681dg-00405-00118329-00118589 outside people that are inside as in FlPZ4X681dg-00406-00118590-00118869 their circles start to turn on him and FlPZ4X681dg-00407-00118870-00119051 then he has to rely on his family to FlPZ4X681dg-00408-00119052-00119261 help defend against these people because FlPZ4X681dg-00409-00119262-00119459 they have more inside information FlPZ4X681dg-00410-00119460-00119639 because of how much they've interacted FlPZ4X681dg-00411-00119640-00119759 with Scrooge FlPZ4X681dg-00412-00119760-00120098 because it just hit me like he ignores FlPZ4X681dg-00413-00120099-00120294 screws his stuff and FlPZ4X681dg-00414-00120295-00120569 goes on with it and then there's FlPZ4X681dg-00415-00120570-00120863 Duckworth think about him is definitely FlPZ4X681dg-00416-00120864-00121079 off I think the only one we can safely FlPZ4X681dg-00417-00121080-00121364 go yeah he's not gonna turn evil FlPZ4X681dg-00418-00121365-00121637 it's launchpad if he did he'd be like oh FlPZ4X681dg-00419-00121638-00121835 I'm sorry I wasn't supposed to do that FlPZ4X681dg-00420-00121836-00122169 he'd be like let's flip the script he's FlPZ4X681dg-00421-00122170-00122474 okay if I eat your brains I was thinking FlPZ4X681dg-00422-00122475-00122723 more like stroke Uli's you know suddenly FlPZ4X681dg-00423-00122724-00122948 turned evil but yeah I don't really want FlPZ4X681dg-00424-00122949-00123173 to do this but I can't help it yes like FlPZ4X681dg-00425-00123174-00123468 that seems like wait a minute all these FlPZ4X681dg-00426-00123469-00123649 people that apparently scrooge mcduck FlPZ4X681dg-00427-00123650-00123974 trusted at one point are probably going FlPZ4X681dg-00428-00123975-00124218 to turn on him and he has to rely on his FlPZ4X681dg-00429-00124219-00124454 family to help him out of it which is FlPZ4X681dg-00430-00124455-00124634 something he couldn't rely on before FlPZ4X681dg-00431-00124635-00125158 because of the whole incident FlPZ4X681dg-00432-00125159-00125297 Wow FlPZ4X681dg-00433-00125298-00125566 but we don't know for sure that FlPZ4X681dg-00434-00125567-00125858 Duckworth is evil yeah I'm just saying FlPZ4X681dg-00435-00125859-00125972 that this is kind of an interesting FlPZ4X681dg-00436-00125973-00126388 thought I'm going down no it is because FlPZ4X681dg-00437-00126389-00126841 screw loose maybe in Scrooge's employ FlPZ4X681dg-00438-00126842-00127146 but I never really thought that screw FlPZ4X681dg-00439-00127147-00127385 loose was on Scrooge's side in this FlPZ4X681dg-00440-00127386-00127643 generation he's on the side of science FlPZ4X681dg-00441-00127644-00127898 well but he perceives his science FlPZ4X681dg-00442-00127899-00128172 anyways his methodology of science and FlPZ4X681dg-00443-00128173-00128450 how dare anyone not acknowledge his FlPZ4X681dg-00444-00128451-00128729 brilliance and that will be all the more FlPZ4X681dg-00445-00128730-00128953 bittersweet because FlPZ4X681dg-00446-00128954-00129239 Fenton has control of the gizmo duck FlPZ4X681dg-00447-00129240-00129644 suit so you have the classic trope of FlPZ4X681dg-00448-00129645-00130115 student having to take out mentor hmm FlPZ4X681dg-00449-00130116-00130499 because if screwloose does change sides FlPZ4X681dg-00450-00130500-00130712 he's going to want the gizmo duck suit FlPZ4X681dg-00451-00130713-00130991 back because he won't have the funding FlPZ4X681dg-00452-00130992-00131319 to build another one unless he works for FlPZ4X681dg-00453-00131320-00131513 the guy can't remember the name of FlPZ4X681dg-00454-00131514-00131820 glumly gold or marc beaks marc beaks FlPZ4X681dg-00455-00131821-00132029 because Marc beaks could get the funding FlPZ4X681dg-00456-00132030-00132243 for it but why would Marc beaks fund it FlPZ4X681dg-00457-00132244-00132459 when he could just steal it why not just FlPZ4X681dg-00458-00132460-00132669 steal the inventor to it cease already FlPZ4X681dg-00459-00132670-00132899 stole one of his inventions this series FlPZ4X681dg-00460-00132900-00133088 there's awesome FlPZ4X681dg-00461-00133089-00133262 there's awesome and then there's this FlPZ4X681dg-00462-00133263-00133662 series which is pretty freakin awesome FlPZ4X681dg-00463-00133663-00134058 and I'm really interested to see how FlPZ4X681dg-00464-00134059-00134262 things will change in the household now FlPZ4X681dg-00465-00134263-00134502 that Duckworth is back because obviously FlPZ4X681dg-00466-00134503-00134784 Duckworth and Beakley butt heads FlPZ4X681dg-00467-00134785-00135108 if Duckworth is loyal to Scrooge some of FlPZ4X681dg-00468-00135109-00135279 that loyalty should rub off on to the FlPZ4X681dg-00469-00135280-00135612 nephews because Foods values them gonna FlPZ4X681dg-00470-00135613-00135915 be really interesting it's hard to tell FlPZ4X681dg-00471-00135916-00136080 how he's thinking about them right now FlPZ4X681dg-00472-00136081-00136269 because of his small bit of interaction FlPZ4X681dg-00473-00136270-00136560 when he was introduced in the room with FlPZ4X681dg-00474-00136561-00136791 Scrooge well he refers to them politely FlPZ4X681dg-00475-00136792-00137205 enough when first introduced and then he FlPZ4X681dg-00476-00137206-00137400 pretty much immediately rides on Hughie FlPZ4X681dg-00477-00137401-00137711 and the fact that he used to relax just FlPZ4X681dg-00478-00137712-00138099 something feels off about him and not FlPZ4X681dg-00479-00138100-00138243 talking about the fact he's translucent FlPZ4X681dg-00480-00138244-00138501 yeah yeah it's a little translucent but FlPZ4X681dg-00481-00138502-00138708 what's really off there is weeklies FlPZ4X681dg-00482-00138709-00138867 comment of I liked it better when you FlPZ4X681dg-00483-00138868-00139080 were dead I'm pretty sure spirit still FlPZ4X681dg-00484-00139081-00139317 counts as dead yeah I think she means FlPZ4X681dg-00485-00139318-00139665 gone very clear what she meant but it FlPZ4X681dg-00486-00139666-00139935 was an interesting choice of phrase so FlPZ4X681dg-00487-00139936-00140121 apparently being a ghost has some FlPZ4X681dg-00488-00140122-00140436 semblance of life and apparently we FlPZ4X681dg-00489-00140437-00140580 already know that she can deal with FlPZ4X681dg-00490-00140581-00140742 ghosts quite well because if you look FlPZ4X681dg-00491-00140743-00141249 back at the shorts she takes care of a FlPZ4X681dg-00492-00141250-00141645 ghost that is already in the manor so we FlPZ4X681dg-00493-00141646-00141903 could have a whole Beakley versus FlPZ4X681dg-00494-00141904-00142125 Duckworth thing you know the showdown of FlPZ4X681dg-00495-00142126-00142458 the two superior servants mm-hmm FlPZ4X681dg-00496-00142459-00142860 also thanks to that one promo that makes FlPZ4X681dg-00497-00142861-00143115 it sound okay warning spoiler alert FlPZ4X681dg-00498-00143116-00143466 because we saw a promo that mrs. Beakley FlPZ4X681dg-00499-00143467-00143748 was missing one servant getting rid of FlPZ4X681dg-00500-00143749-00143934 another yeah I think that's the episode FlPZ4X681dg-00501-00143935-00144264 that will air right after that the next FlPZ4X681dg-00502-00144265-00144492 weekend after an episode that just FlPZ4X681dg-00503-00144493-00144813 recently aired interesting should we FlPZ4X681dg-00504-00144814-00145083 wrap things up oh yeah so or your final FlPZ4X681dg-00505-00145084-00145244 thoughts on these two wonderful episodes FlPZ4X681dg-00506-00145245-00145566 really enjoy these love that we had FlPZ4X681dg-00507-00145567-00145863 somepony cross over here and that it FlPZ4X681dg-00508-00145864-00146121 made sense because kelpies are something FlPZ4X681dg-00509-00146122-00146535 you would find in a Scotland in this FlPZ4X681dg-00510-00146536-00146865 series as I hope if I actually go over FlPZ4X681dg-00511-00146866-00147033 to Scotland ever I won't FlPZ4X681dg-00512-00147034-00147351 into them yeah I wouldn't want to run FlPZ4X681dg-00513-00147352-00147639 into any of these Scottish creatures FlPZ4X681dg-00514-00147640-00147837 because they are some of the most FlPZ4X681dg-00515-00147838-00148212 horrible terrifying things like ever so FlPZ4X681dg-00516-00148213-00148577 yeah that at least with the Japanese FlPZ4X681dg-00517-00148578-00148784 kappa you had like a 50-50 chance FlPZ4X681dg-00518-00148785-00149169 because they would like drag you off but FlPZ4X681dg-00519-00149170-00149390 they would also occasionally help people FlPZ4X681dg-00520-00149391-00149678 and the water that was kept in their FlPZ4X681dg-00521-00149679-00149994 skull could be used for healing so you FlPZ4X681dg-00522-00149995-00150351 had a chance help bees you were just FlPZ4X681dg-00523-00150352-00150786 dead so you saying I have a chance well FlPZ4X681dg-00524-00150787-00151039 I'd love Launchpad in that first episode FlPZ4X681dg-00525-00151040-00151514 Wow the second episode just he was just FlPZ4X681dg-00526-00151515-00151626 so much to think about FlPZ4X681dg-00527-00151627-00151826 I mean I'm pretty sure this fan video FlPZ4X681dg-00528-00151827-00151998 was out there because I member like FlPZ4X681dg-00529-00151999-00152124 skimming over them because I was like I FlPZ4X681dg-00530-00152125-00152252 haven't watched this episodes yet I know FlPZ4X681dg-00531-00152253-00152540 that's about that episode skim skim I'm FlPZ4X681dg-00532-00152541-00152811 sure that they go into way further down FlPZ4X681dg-00533-00152812-00153041 the rabbit hole than we do and this has FlPZ4X681dg-00534-00153042-00153249 been our thoughts on Disney's DuckTales FlPZ4X681dg-00535-00153250-00153711 reboot episodes 12 and 13 the missing FlPZ4X681dg-00536-00153712-00154137 links of more Shire and Mick mystery at FlPZ4X681dg-00537-00154138-00154497 mcduck Manor well I'm pretty sure we FlPZ4X681dg-00538-00154498-00154737 don't have any missing links here but of FlPZ4X681dg-00539-00154738-00154976 course this isn't more shire either so FlPZ4X681dg-00540-00154977-00155279 yes we have all the usual links give or FlPZ4X681dg-00541-00155280-00155465 take a few just in case Lux perhaps FlPZ4X681dg-00542-00155466-00155987 forgot something or found something new FlPZ4X681dg-00543-00155988-00156329 the only mystery here is why you stay to FlPZ4X681dg-00544-00156330-00156699 the outro because the episodes kind of FlPZ4X681dg-00545-00156700-00156988 over I'm pretty sure the drawings done FlPZ4X681dg-00546-00156989-00157275 and there's other videos you could be FlPZ4X681dg-00547-00157276-00157659 watching I mean this is YouTube I mean FlPZ4X681dg-00548-00157660-00157841 they might not even be our videos I mean FlPZ4X681dg-00549-00157842-00158138 we're in just a tiny fraction of the FlPZ4X681dg-00550-00158139-00158339 variety that's available on YouTube wait FlPZ4X681dg-00551-00158340-00159125 where are you going FlPZ4X681dg-00552-00159126-00159431 hey 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FlPZ4X681dg-00566-00163117-00163497 choose to grace us with your presence GodSdO_ceU0-00000-00000443-00000740 hi i'm catherine turner of the advanced GodSdO_ceU0-00001-00000741-00000991 dead district contact and I'm on Team GodSdO_ceU0-00002-00000992-00001337 colleton to the team colleton we help GodSdO_ceU0-00003-00001338-00001525 hire the best teachers and support staff GodSdO_ceU0-00004-00001526-00001798 and we're on Team Collison we make the GodSdO_ceU0-00005-00001800-00002051 best food to fuel team collagen go team GodSdO_ceU0-00006-00002052-00002306 college where are the imbalances my name GodSdO_ceU0-00007-00002307-00002525 is Ramona balance I'm with the finance GodSdO_ceU0-00008-00002526-00002831 department and I'm on Team Carlton hi GodSdO_ceU0-00009-00002832-00002987 I'm penny and I work in the finance GodSdO_ceU0-00010-00002988-00003274 department go team colleton go to you go GodSdO_ceU0-00011-00003275-00003586 to join us on team Collison I'm pair 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the fifth of July 2015 was a GoIY1vsGl1A-00003-00000936-00001129 japanese-american physicist and GoIY1vsGl1A-00004-00001130-00001339 professor at the University of Chicago GoIY1vsGl1A-00005-00001340-00001612 known for his contributions to the field GoIY1vsGl1A-00006-00001613-00001801 of theoretical physics he was awarded GoIY1vsGl1A-00007-00001802-00002017 half of the Nobel Prize in Physics in GoIY1vsGl1A-00008-00002018-00002312 2008 for the discovery in 1960 of the GoIY1vsGl1A-00009-00002313-00002551 mechanism of spontaneous broken symmetry GoIY1vsGl1A-00010-00002552-00002795 in subatomic physics related at first to GoIY1vsGl1A-00011-00002796-00002972 the strong interactions chiral symmetry GoIY1vsGl1A-00012-00002973-00003149 and later to the electroweak interaction GoIY1vsGl1A-00013-00003150-00003445 and Higgs mechanism the other half was GoIY1vsGl1A-00014-00003446-00003647 split equally between makoto kobayashi GoIY1vsGl1A-00015-00003647-00003950 and Toshi hyde maskawa for the discovery GoIY1vsGl1A-00016-00003951-00004169 of the origin of the broken symmetry GoIY1vsGl1A-00017-00004170-00004372 which predicts the existence of at least GoIY1vsGl1A-00018-00004373-00004977 three families of quarks in nature GoIY1vsGl1A-00019-00004978-00005567 topic early life in education GoIY1vsGl1A-00020-00005568-00005954 Nambu was born in Tokyo Japan in 1921 GoIY1vsGl1A-00021-00005955-00006233 after graduating from the venn Fukui GoIY1vsGl1A-00022-00006234-00006494 secondary high school in Fukui City he GoIY1vsGl1A-00023-00006495-00006686 enrolled in the Imperial University of GoIY1vsGl1A-00024-00006687-00006977 Tokyo and studied physics he received GoIY1vsGl1A-00025-00006978-00007250 his Bachelor of Science in 1942 and GoIY1vsGl1A-00026-00007251-00007694 doctorate of Science in 1952 in 1949 he GoIY1vsGl1A-00027-00007695-00007895 was appointed to associate professor at GoIY1vsGl1A-00028-00007895-00008129 the Osaka City University and promoted GoIY1vsGl1A-00029-00008130-00008303 to professorship the next year at the GoIY1vsGl1A-00030-00008304-00008651 age of 29 in 1952 he was invited by the GoIY1vsGl1A-00031-00008652-00008828 Institute for Advanced Study in GoIY1vsGl1A-00032-00008829-00009077 Princeton New Jersey United States to GoIY1vsGl1A-00033-00009078-00009326 study he moved to the University of GoIY1vsGl1A-00034-00009327-00009605 Chicago in 1954 and was promoted to GoIY1vsGl1A-00035-00009606-00010154 professor in 1958 from 1974 to 1977 he GoIY1vsGl1A-00036-00010155-00010340 was also chairman of the Department of GoIY1vsGl1A-00037-00010341-00010571 Physics he became a United States GoIY1vsGl1A-00038-00010572-00011060 citizen in 1970 GoIY1vsGl1A-00039-00011061-00011623 topic career in physics GoIY1vsGl1A-00040-00011624-00011920 Nambu proposed the color charge of GoIY1vsGl1A-00041-00011921-00012285 quantum chromodynamics having done early GoIY1vsGl1A-00042-00012286-00012508 work on spontaneous symmetry breaking in GoIY1vsGl1A-00043-00012509-00012784 particle physics and having discovered GoIY1vsGl1A-00044-00012785-00012958 that the dual resonance model could be GoIY1vsGl1A-00045-00012959-00013171 explained as a quantum mechanical theory GoIY1vsGl1A-00046-00013172-00013450 of strings he was accounted as one of GoIY1vsGl1A-00047-00013451-00013663 the founders of string theory after more GoIY1vsGl1A-00048-00013663-00013869 than 50 years as a professor he was GoIY1vsGl1A-00049-00013870-00014050 Henry Pratt Judson Distinguished Service GoIY1vsGl1A-00050-00014051-00014293 professor emeritus at the University of GoIY1vsGl1A-00051-00014294-00014491 Chicago's Department of Physics and GoIY1vsGl1A-00052-00014491-00014688 Enrico Fermi Institute the nambu-goto GoIY1vsGl1A-00053-00014690-00014916 action in string theory is named after GoIY1vsGl1A-00054-00014918-00015193 Nambu and Tetsuo goto also massless GoIY1vsGl1A-00055-00015194-00015403 bosons arising in field theories with GoIY1vsGl1A-00056-00015404-00015583 spontaneous symmetry breaking are GoIY1vsGl1A-00057-00015584-00015793 sometimes referred to as Nambu Goldstone GoIY1vsGl1A-00058-00015794-00016147 bosons GoIY1vsGl1A-00059-00016149-00016632 topic death GoIY1vsGl1A-00060-00016633-00016938 Nambu died on the fifth of July 2015 at GoIY1vsGl1A-00061-00016939-00017196 the age of 94 in Osaka due to an acute GoIY1vsGl1A-00062-00017197-00017490 myocardial infarction his funeral and GoIY1vsGl1A-00063-00017491-00017685 memorial services were held among close GoIY1vsGl1A-00064-00017686-00018100 relatives GoIY1vsGl1A-00065-00018101-00018563 topic recognition GoIY1vsGl1A-00066-00018564-00018788 Nambu won numerous honors and awards GoIY1vsGl1A-00067-00018789-00019094 including the Dannie Heineman prize 1970 GoIY1vsGl1A-00068-00019095-00019378 the J robert Oppenheimer Memorial Prize GoIY1vsGl1A-00069-00019379-00019868 1977 Japan's order of Culture 1978 the GoIY1vsGl1A-00070-00019869-00020213 USA's National Medal of Science 1982 the GoIY1vsGl1A-00071-00020214-00020536 Max Planck medal 1985 the Dirac Prize GoIY1vsGl1A-00072-00020537-00020918 1986 the Sakurai prize 1994 The Wolf GoIY1vsGl1A-00073-00020919-00021278 Prize in Physics 1994 1995 and the GoIY1vsGl1A-00074-00021279-00021485 Franklin Institute's Benjamin Franklin GoIY1vsGl1A-00075-00021486-00021919 medal 2005 he was awarded one-half of GoIY1vsGl1A-00076-00021920-00022214 the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physics for the GoIY1vsGl1A-00077-00022215-00022394 discovery of the mechanism of GoIY1vsGl1A-00078-00022395-00022633 spontaneous broken symmetry in subatomic GoIY1vsGl1A-00079-00022634-00022961 physics GoIY1vsGl1A-00080-00022962-00023141 you GoIY1vsGl1A-00081-00023142-00023640 topic see also GoIY1vsGl1A-00082-00023641-00024058 list of Japanese Nobel laureates list of GoIY1vsGl1A-00083-00024059-00024241 Nobel laureates affiliated with the GoIY1vsGl1A-00084-00024242-00024665 University of Tokyo GoIY1vsGl1A-00085-00024666-00025230 topic references GoIY1vsGl1A-00086-00025231-00025619 topic external links GoIY1vsGl1A-00087-00025620-00025772 you GoIY1vsGl1A-00088-00025773-00026052 Yuichiro Nambu Department of Physics GoIY1vsGl1A-00089-00026052-00026362 faculty profile University of Chicago GoIY1vsGl1A-00090-00026363-00026714 profile Scientific American magazine GoIY1vsGl1A-00091-00026714-00027071 Yuichiro Nambu SC D biographical GoIY1vsGl1A-00092-00027072-00027357 information man blues most cited GoIY1vsGl1A-00093-00027358-00027627 scientific papers you eat your own GoIY1vsGl1A-00094-00027627-00027830 ambu's earliest book for the scientific GoIY1vsGl1A-00095-00027831-00028155 layman yo ichirin ambu's previously GoIY1vsGl1A-00096-00028156-00028346 unpublished material including an GoIY1vsGl1A-00097-00028347-00028599 original article on spontaneously broken GoIY1vsGl1A-00098-00028600-00028908 symmetry interview at the AIP oral GoIY1vsGl1A-00099-00028908-00029337 history site July 16 2004 a history of GoIY1vsGl1A-00100-00029338-00029612 Nobel physicists from wartime Japan GoIY1vsGl1A-00101-00029613-00029912 article published in the December 1998 GoIY1vsGl1A-00102-00029913-00030177 issue of Scientific American co-authored GoIY1vsGl1A-00103-00030177-00030418 by Laurie brown and Yoichiro Nambu GoIY1vsGl1A-00104-00030419-00030795 tribute upon professor Nambu passing by GoIY1vsGl1A-00105-00030795-00031253 former student dr Madhu sri moojiji G38oKCvTVEy-00000-00001648-00001798 so we have been looking at finite G38oKCvTVEy-00001-00001800-00002118 difference method G38oKCvTVEy-00002-00002119-00002287 that is used for G38oKCvTVEy-00003-00002288-00002423 discretizing G38oKCvTVEy-00004-00002424-00002639 boundary value problems as well as G38oKCvTVEy-00005-00002640-00002883 partial differential G38oKCvTVEy-00006-00002884-00003254 equations and in particular G38oKCvTVEy-00007-00003255-00003447 in my last lecture i was looking at a G38oKCvTVEy-00008-00003447-00003647 partial differential equation laplace G38oKCvTVEy-00009-00003647-00003975 equation G38oKCvTVEy-00010-00003976-00004183 and then we G38oKCvTVEy-00011-00004184-00004527 approximated the partial derivatives G38oKCvTVEy-00012-00004528-00004838 in spatial directions and then G38oKCvTVEy-00013-00004839-00004975 what results G38oKCvTVEy-00014-00004976-00005063 is a G38oKCvTVEy-00015-00005064-00005318 set of linear algebraic equations so we G38oKCvTVEy-00016-00005319-00005438 start with a partial differential G38oKCvTVEy-00017-00005439-00005606 equation and then G38oKCvTVEy-00018-00005607-00005911 process of discretization resulted in G38oKCvTVEy-00019-00005912-00006047 set of G38oKCvTVEy-00020-00006048-00006270 linear algebraic equations the problem G38oKCvTVEy-00021-00006271-00006559 was G38oKCvTVEy-00022-00006559-00006751 so G38oKCvTVEy-00023-00006752-00006895 we had this G38oKCvTVEy-00024-00006895-00007470 partial differential equation G38oKCvTVEy-00025-00007472-00007687 so x and y are normalized spatial G38oKCvTVEy-00026-00007688-00007846 coordinates and then we have this G38oKCvTVEy-00027-00007847-00008159 partial differential equation that holds G38oKCvTVEy-00028-00008159-00008391 on the interior points and then G38oKCvTVEy-00029-00008392-00008631 i said this was an example of a furnace G38oKCvTVEy-00030-00008632-00008831 and then we use finite difference method G38oKCvTVEy-00031-00008832-00009023 to discretize this what what you get G38oKCvTVEy-00032-00009024-00009110 here G38oKCvTVEy-00033-00009111-00009606 is a set of linear algebraic equations G38oKCvTVEy-00034-00009607-00009767 what i want to show again with the same G38oKCvTVEy-00035-00009768-00009863 example G38oKCvTVEy-00036-00009864-00010095 is that it depends upon the method you G38oKCvTVEy-00037-00010096-00010383 choose to discretize okay it is not that G38oKCvTVEy-00038-00010384-00010551 this particular problem and finite G38oKCvTVEy-00039-00010552-00010814 difference method will always yield G38oKCvTVEy-00040-00010815-00010983 set of linear algebraic equations i am G38oKCvTVEy-00041-00010984-00011135 going to do one more method called G38oKCvTVEy-00042-00011136-00011278 method of lines G38oKCvTVEy-00043-00011279-00011478 which will yield G38oKCvTVEy-00044-00011479-00011631 ordinary differential equations boundary G38oKCvTVEy-00045-00011632-00011846 value problem so depending upon how you G38oKCvTVEy-00046-00011847-00011959 choose to G38oKCvTVEy-00047-00011960-00012127 discretize you will get different types G38oKCvTVEy-00048-00012128-00012359 of approximations from the same problem G38oKCvTVEy-00049-00012360-00012510 that's very important G38oKCvTVEy-00050-00012511-00012606 okay G38oKCvTVEy-00051-00012607-00012767 and using the same method same approach G38oKCvTVEy-00052-00012768-00013055 that is finite difference okay of course G38oKCvTVEy-00053-00013056-00013230 when we use some other method G38oKCvTVEy-00054-00013231-00013503 which we'll be discussing for example G38oKCvTVEy-00055-00013504-00013735 uh starting from uh towards the end of G38oKCvTVEy-00056-00013736-00013903 this lecture and next lecture G38oKCvTVEy-00057-00013904-00014071 we'll talk about uh orthogonal G38oKCvTVEy-00058-00014072-00014199 collocation so that is another way of G38oKCvTVEy-00059-00014200-00014455 discretizing G38oKCvTVEy-00060-00014456-00014663 and of course will yield a G38oKCvTVEy-00061-00014663-00014847 different way of G38oKCvTVEy-00062-00014847-00015047 formulating or formulating the G38oKCvTVEy-00063-00015047-00015311 approximate problem G38oKCvTVEy-00064-00015312-00015463 so here we had G38oKCvTVEy-00065-00015463-00015663 these boundary conditions G38oKCvTVEy-00066-00015663-00015950 at G38oKCvTVEy-00067-00015951-00016238 at x is equal to 0 we have condition G38oKCvTVEy-00068-00016240-00016327 that G38oKCvTVEy-00069-00016328-00016471 t G38oKCvTVEy-00070-00016472-00016655 x G38oKCvTVEy-00071-00016656-00016791 t 0 y G38oKCvTVEy-00072-00016792-00017119 is equal to t star then at G38oKCvTVEy-00073-00017120-00017319 x equal to 1 G38oKCvTVEy-00074-00017320-00017575 we have this condition G38oKCvTVEy-00075-00017576-00017799 t G38oKCvTVEy-00076-00017800-00017911 1 y G38oKCvTVEy-00077-00017912-00018575 is equal to t star G38oKCvTVEy-00078-00018576-00018814 the third boundary condition is again so G38oKCvTVEy-00079-00018815-00018958 it's like saying that three walls are G38oKCvTVEy-00080-00018959-00019230 insulated and there is a convective G38oKCvTVEy-00081-00019231-00019430 heat transfer from G38oKCvTVEy-00082-00019431-00019927 one end at y equal to one G38oKCvTVEy-00083-00019928-00020303 at y equal to 0 we have G38oKCvTVEy-00084-00020304-00020447 t G38oKCvTVEy-00085-00020448-00020719 temperature G38oKCvTVEy-00086-00020720-00020791 at G38oKCvTVEy-00087-00020792-00020886 x G38oKCvTVEy-00088-00020887-00021158 0 is equal to t star G38oKCvTVEy-00089-00021159-00021414 so three three walls are insulated and G38oKCvTVEy-00090-00021415-00021735 the fourth one we have convective G38oKCvTVEy-00091-00021736-00021807 at G38oKCvTVEy-00092-00021808-00021983 y G38oKCvTVEy-00093-00021984-00022214 equal to one we have this boundary G38oKCvTVEy-00094-00022215-00022830 condition G38oKCvTVEy-00095-00022831-00022943 so we have these four boundary G38oKCvTVEy-00096-00022944-00023086 conditions and when we use finite G38oKCvTVEy-00097-00023087-00023239 difference method G38oKCvTVEy-00098-00023240-00023367 what we got G38oKCvTVEy-00099-00023368-00023503 was G38oKCvTVEy-00100-00023504-00023750 a set of linear algebraic equations what G38oKCvTVEy-00101-00023751-00023958 we had done was we G38oKCvTVEy-00102-00023959-00024263 discretize the domain G38oKCvTVEy-00103-00024264-00024655 we discretize the domain G38oKCvTVEy-00104-00024656-00024983 so this is G38oKCvTVEy-00105-00024984-00025167 1 2 G38oKCvTVEy-00106-00025168-00025694 3 and so on G38oKCvTVEy-00107-00025695-00025870 so we we discretize the domain we G38oKCvTVEy-00108-00025872-00025983 constructed G38oKCvTVEy-00109-00025983-00026087 uh G38oKCvTVEy-00110-00026088-00026367 we demarcated uh you know grid points G38oKCvTVEy-00111-00026368-00026687 along y axis and along x axis G38oKCvTVEy-00112-00026688-00026862 and then G38oKCvTVEy-00113-00026863-00027135 we imposed the G38oKCvTVEy-00114-00027136-00027327 partial differential equation at the G38oKCvTVEy-00115-00027327-00027623 grid points or we or in the terms of G38oKCvTVEy-00116-00027624-00027831 finite difference method we force the G38oKCvTVEy-00117-00027832-00028070 residual to zero G38oKCvTVEy-00118-00028072-00028335 okay we force the residual to zero G38oKCvTVEy-00119-00028336-00028670 uh at the grid points and this forcing G38oKCvTVEy-00120-00028672-00028895 residual to zero at the grid points gave G38oKCvTVEy-00121-00028895-00029070 rise to large number of algebraic G38oKCvTVEy-00122-00029072-00029231 equations G38oKCvTVEy-00123-00029232-00029327 uh G38oKCvTVEy-00124-00029327-00029414 and G38oKCvTVEy-00125-00029416-00029607 same thing is true about boundary G38oKCvTVEy-00126-00029608-00029743 conditions we use G38oKCvTVEy-00127-00029744-00029927 finite difference at the boundary and G38oKCvTVEy-00128-00029927-00030167 then we get G38oKCvTVEy-00129-00030168-00030431 additional equations at the boundary so G38oKCvTVEy-00130-00030432-00030751 total number of equations that we have G38oKCvTVEy-00131-00030752-00030967 finally is G38oKCvTVEy-00132-00030968-00031095 how many equations you have how many G38oKCvTVEy-00133-00031095-00031335 variables you have G38oKCvTVEy-00134-00031336-00031502 n x plus 1 G38oKCvTVEy-00135-00031503-00031670 cross G38oKCvTVEy-00136-00031672-00031887 n y plus 1 G38oKCvTVEy-00137-00031888-00032023 equations G38oKCvTVEy-00138-00032024-00032318 and you have same number of variables G38oKCvTVEy-00139-00032319-00032470 okay now G38oKCvTVEy-00140-00032472-00032679 uh instead of writing those equations G38oKCvTVEy-00141-00032680-00032951 again i want to just point out something G38oKCvTVEy-00142-00032952-00033127 if you actually try to rearrange this G38oKCvTVEy-00143-00033128-00033279 what you get is set of linear algebraic G38oKCvTVEy-00144-00033280-00033415 equations G38oKCvTVEy-00145-00033416-00033583 and if you rearrange them G38oKCvTVEy-00146-00033584-00033759 into a matrix form the standard you know G38oKCvTVEy-00147-00033760-00034127 ax equal to b form then you get a very G38oKCvTVEy-00148-00034128-00034327 special kind of matrix G38oKCvTVEy-00149-00034328-00034574 i don't want to write the G38oKCvTVEy-00150-00034575-00034815 matrix i just want to show how it looks G38oKCvTVEy-00151-00034816-00035083 graphically G38oKCvTVEy-00152-00035084-00035390 okay it's a it's a special diagonal G38oKCvTVEy-00153-00035391-00035607 matrix it's a sparse matrix what you get G38oKCvTVEy-00154-00035608-00035862 here and G38oKCvTVEy-00155-00035863-00036095 see this matrix will have non-zero G38oKCvTVEy-00156-00036096-00036271 elements G38oKCvTVEy-00157-00036272-00036423 along G38oKCvTVEy-00158-00036424-00036630 first three diagonals there will be lot G38oKCvTVEy-00159-00036631-00036830 of zeros there will be a non-zero G38oKCvTVEy-00160-00036831-00036983 diagonal again G38oKCvTVEy-00161-00036984-00037351 there will be a zero here zero G38oKCvTVEy-00162-00037352-00037671 diagonals and zero diagonals so you get G38oKCvTVEy-00163-00037672-00037902 a sparse matrix here if you rearrange G38oKCvTVEy-00164-00037903-00038111 all the equations so this is this is you G38oKCvTVEy-00165-00038112-00038223 know G38oKCvTVEy-00166-00038224-00038374 i'm G38oKCvTVEy-00167-00038375-00038607 t G38oKCvTVEy-00168-00038608-00039111 one one G38oKCvTVEy-00169-00039112-00039279 or i think you have to eliminate the G38oKCvTVEy-00170-00039280-00039583 boundary boundaries so you get t G38oKCvTVEy-00171-00039584-00039735 2 2 to t G38oKCvTVEy-00172-00039736-00039902 n x G38oKCvTVEy-00173-00039903-00040167 and y G38oKCvTVEy-00174-00040168-00040415 if you collect all the if you eliminate G38oKCvTVEy-00175-00040416-00040495 the G38oKCvTVEy-00176-00040496-00040671 boundary conditions and then collect all G38oKCvTVEy-00177-00040672-00040918 the unknowns together and write this as G38oKCvTVEy-00178-00040919-00041415 one equation you will get this G38oKCvTVEy-00179-00041416-00041718 you will get a vector b here G38oKCvTVEy-00180-00041719-00042118 which is coming out of f of x y G38oKCvTVEy-00181-00042119-00042239 the the G38oKCvTVEy-00182-00042240-00042455 values of f of x at different points f G38oKCvTVEy-00183-00042456-00042711 of x y at different points G38oKCvTVEy-00184-00042712-00043023 and then so this is say this here in G38oKCvTVEy-00185-00043024-00043262 this case this is the source term G38oKCvTVEy-00186-00043263-00043471 and as i explained to you that G38oKCvTVEy-00187-00043472-00043607 the sources G38oKCvTVEy-00188-00043608-00043855 if you are modeling this particular room G38oKCvTVEy-00189-00043856-00044039 okay then the sources would be each one G38oKCvTVEy-00190-00044040-00044207 of you you know each one of you G38oKCvTVEy-00191-00044208-00044535 is a heat source like a 40 watt bulb G38oKCvTVEy-00192-00044536-00044623 and G38oKCvTVEy-00193-00044624-00044918 the distribution of these bulbs can be G38oKCvTVEy-00194-00044919-00045127 given by f x y G38oKCvTVEy-00195-00045128-00045295 you know at which points this bulbs are G38oKCvTVEy-00196-00045296-00045399 located G38oKCvTVEy-00197-00045400-00045623 and then that would lead to G38oKCvTVEy-00198-00045624-00045774 a particular solution a particular G38oKCvTVEy-00199-00045775-00045967 temperature distribution so the solution G38oKCvTVEy-00200-00045968-00046167 here actually the true solution is a G38oKCvTVEy-00201-00046168-00046343 surface G38oKCvTVEy-00202-00046344-00046558 with one temperature value attached to G38oKCvTVEy-00203-00046559-00046727 each point G38oKCvTVEy-00204-00046728-00046967 each xy in this we are not able to solve G38oKCvTVEy-00205-00046968-00047118 this equation at every point we are able G38oKCvTVEy-00206-00047119-00047302 to solve it only at finite number of G38oKCvTVEy-00207-00047303-00047479 points G38oKCvTVEy-00208-00047480-00047671 you will get a good solution if you if G38oKCvTVEy-00209-00047672-00048015 you create more number of grid points G38oKCvTVEy-00210-00048016-00048262 okay the solution will improve with more G38oKCvTVEy-00211-00048263-00048430 and more number of grid points but their G38oKCvTVEy-00212-00048431-00048630 computations increase with more and more G38oKCvTVEy-00213-00048631-00048911 number of grid points okay G38oKCvTVEy-00214-00048912-00049199 and this matrix which you which you see G38oKCvTVEy-00215-00049200-00049415 here which you will get will be a banded G38oKCvTVEy-00216-00049416-00049535 matrix G38oKCvTVEy-00217-00049536-00049702 and this will be a sparse matrix this is G38oKCvTVEy-00218-00049703-00049855 a side note that we'll be looking at G38oKCvTVEy-00219-00049856-00050086 sparse matrices little later but i just G38oKCvTVEy-00220-00050087-00050302 want to point out that i just want to G38oKCvTVEy-00221-00050303-00050439 provide a motivation for looking at G38oKCvTVEy-00222-00050440-00050607 sparse matrices why do you have to look G38oKCvTVEy-00223-00050608-00050758 at special methods G38oKCvTVEy-00224-00050759-00050886 for G38oKCvTVEy-00225-00050887-00051030 matrices which are filled with large G38oKCvTVEy-00226-00051031-00051174 number of zeros G38oKCvTVEy-00227-00051175-00051302 because you know you can save G38oKCvTVEy-00228-00051303-00051438 computation time G38oKCvTVEy-00229-00051439-00051758 when you have large matrices G38oKCvTVEy-00230-00051759-00051863 suppose G38oKCvTVEy-00231-00051864-00052102 this nx and ny G38oKCvTVEy-00232-00052103-00052382 you know G38oKCvTVEy-00233-00052383-00052542 this happens to be these are the number G38oKCvTVEy-00234-00052544-00052703 of variables G38oKCvTVEy-00235-00052704-00052966 okay and this matrix will be n x cross n G38oKCvTVEy-00236-00052967-00053079 x G38oKCvTVEy-00237-00053079-00053279 see there are the number of variables so G38oKCvTVEy-00238-00053279-00053663 this matrix will be G38oKCvTVEy-00239-00053664-00053903 n x cross n y G38oKCvTVEy-00240-00053904-00054047 cross G38oKCvTVEy-00241-00054048-00054391 n x cross n y G38oKCvTVEy-00242-00054391-00054807 this will be a huge matrix just remember G38oKCvTVEy-00243-00054808-00055023 total number of variables are these so G38oKCvTVEy-00244-00055024-00055166 this if you eliminate boundary G38oKCvTVEy-00245-00055167-00055375 conditions you will get something like G38oKCvTVEy-00246-00055376-00055735 nx cross and y variables in this vector G38oKCvTVEy-00247-00055736-00055807 and G38oKCvTVEy-00248-00055808-00056047 this matrix G38oKCvTVEy-00249-00056048-00056350 is n x cross n y cross n x cross n y so G38oKCvTVEy-00250-00056351-00056526 if you take hundred hundred grid points G38oKCvTVEy-00251-00056527-00056719 just imagine G38oKCvTVEy-00252-00056720-00057111 what is the size of this matrix G38oKCvTVEy-00253-00057112-00057279 inverting this kind of a matrix is G38oKCvTVEy-00254-00057279-00057454 possible but you know you are wasting a G38oKCvTVEy-00255-00057455-00057694 lot of computer time because there are a G38oKCvTVEy-00256-00057695-00057894 lot of zeros and those will probably G38oKCvTVEy-00257-00057895-00058126 give zeros when you invert you don't G38oKCvTVEy-00258-00058127-00058230 have to G38oKCvTVEy-00259-00058232-00058494 you know waste your energy in uh G38oKCvTVEy-00260-00058495-00058647 finding the zeros on the right hand side G38oKCvTVEy-00261-00058648-00058823 if you can devise some intelligent G38oKCvTVEy-00262-00058824-00059054 algorithm you can save computation time G38oKCvTVEy-00263-00059055-00059175 okay G38oKCvTVEy-00264-00059176-00059391 now is this the only way of discretizing G38oKCvTVEy-00265-00059391-00059750 we discretize both in x and y G38oKCvTVEy-00266-00059751-00060030 okay we discuss both in x and y why why G38oKCvTVEy-00267-00060032-00060282 do first of all why do i get this banded G38oKCvTVEy-00268-00060283-00060606 structure because when i discretize G38oKCvTVEy-00269-00060607-00061054 okay each each equation will have only G38oKCvTVEy-00270-00061055-00061303 five variables associated with it so i G38oKCvTVEy-00271-00061304-00061503 will have this variable this variable G38oKCvTVEy-00272-00061504-00061775 this variable this variable so this is i G38oKCvTVEy-00273-00061776-00062094 this is this point is i comma z G38oKCvTVEy-00274-00062095-00062430 this point will be i plus 1 comma j G38oKCvTVEy-00275-00062432-00062559 this will be G38oKCvTVEy-00276-00062560-00062926 i minus 1 comma z and so on so 1 2 3 4 G38oKCvTVEy-00277-00062927-00063206 points neighboring points are appearing G38oKCvTVEy-00278-00063207-00063415 in each equation G38oKCvTVEy-00279-00063416-00063575 and such you have large number of G38oKCvTVEy-00280-00063576-00063703 coupled equations you have to solve them G38oKCvTVEy-00281-00063704-00063903 together simultaneously to arrive at the G38oKCvTVEy-00282-00063904-00064111 solution G38oKCvTVEy-00283-00064112-00064311 okay the solution surface is being G38oKCvTVEy-00284-00064312-00064535 approximated by solving the equation at G38oKCvTVEy-00285-00064536-00064726 discrete number of points G38oKCvTVEy-00286-00064727-00064935 since it's an approximation what you get G38oKCvTVEy-00287-00064936-00065094 is an approximate solution cannot be the G38oKCvTVEy-00288-00065095-00065263 true solution G38oKCvTVEy-00289-00065264-00065526 okay for this particular problem in many G38oKCvTVEy-00290-00065527-00065655 cases you'll be able to solve the G38oKCvTVEy-00291-00065656-00065799 problem analytically that's a different G38oKCvTVEy-00292-00065800-00065950 story G38oKCvTVEy-00293-00065951-00066247 okay but if there is a non-linearity G38oKCvTVEy-00294-00066248-00066335 then G38oKCvTVEy-00295-00066336-00066567 you are in trouble for example i can G38oKCvTVEy-00296-00066568-00066694 make this problem G38oKCvTVEy-00297-00066695-00067023 uh non-linear just by saying G38oKCvTVEy-00298-00067024-00067263 that this thermal diffusivity alpha G38oKCvTVEy-00299-00067264-00067582 is a function of temperature G38oKCvTVEy-00300-00067583-00067791 right now i assume constant temperature G38oKCvTVEy-00301-00067792-00067887 you know G38oKCvTVEy-00302-00067888-00068023 probably if you are doing a modeling in G38oKCvTVEy-00303-00068024-00068167 this room the temperature variation is G38oKCvTVEy-00304-00068168-00068279 not too much G38oKCvTVEy-00305-00068280-00068415 it's a good assumption that alpha is G38oKCvTVEy-00306-00068416-00068631 constant but if there is too much G38oKCvTVEy-00307-00068632-00068838 variation of temperature in the region G38oKCvTVEy-00308-00068839-00069063 where you are modeling then it is worth G38oKCvTVEy-00309-00069064-00069263 modeling alpha as a function of G38oKCvTVEy-00310-00069264-00069438 temperature and then immediately the G38oKCvTVEy-00311-00069439-00069582 equations which are linear algebraic G38oKCvTVEy-00312-00069583-00069726 equations will become nonlinear G38oKCvTVEy-00313-00069727-00069887 algebraic equations G38oKCvTVEy-00314-00069888-00070023 okay G38oKCvTVEy-00315-00070024-00070343 okay leave that aside but uh G38oKCvTVEy-00316-00070344-00070526 let's not talk about non-linearity let's G38oKCvTVEy-00317-00070527-00070735 look at this problem again through G38oKCvTVEy-00318-00070736-00071006 another method called method of lines G38oKCvTVEy-00319-00071007-00071279 okay so what i'm going to do now G38oKCvTVEy-00320-00071280-00071519 this is a method which belongs to the G38oKCvTVEy-00321-00071520-00071759 same finite difference class G38oKCvTVEy-00322-00071760-00071847 or G38oKCvTVEy-00323-00071848-00072071 it could reappear when you do orthogonal G38oKCvTVEy-00324-00072072-00072231 collocations G38oKCvTVEy-00325-00072232-00072375 instead of G38oKCvTVEy-00326-00072376-00072687 discretizing in both dimensions x and y G38oKCvTVEy-00327-00072688-00072871 i could choose to discretize only in one G38oKCvTVEy-00328-00072872-00073167 dimension say x G38oKCvTVEy-00329-00073168-00073399 okay and i want to retain the G38oKCvTVEy-00330-00073400-00073799 differential operator in y direction G38oKCvTVEy-00331-00073800-00074111 okay i discretize only in x direction i G38oKCvTVEy-00332-00074112-00074262 want to retain G38oKCvTVEy-00333-00074263-00074559 differential operator in y direction G38oKCvTVEy-00334-00074560-00074782 this is another way of G38oKCvTVEy-00335-00074783-00074991 discretizing so this will give me method G38oKCvTVEy-00336-00074992-00075191 of lines G38oKCvTVEy-00337-00075192-00075367 so G38oKCvTVEy-00338-00075368-00075606 what i am going to do here G38oKCvTVEy-00339-00075607-00075838 so what i am going to do here is instead G38oKCvTVEy-00340-00075839-00076343 of drawing grid points G38oKCvTVEy-00341-00076344-00076950 in both x and y direction G38oKCvTVEy-00342-00076951-00077359 i am not going to mark G38oKCvTVEy-00343-00077360-00077679 i'm not going to mark the G38oKCvTVEy-00344-00077680-00077887 i'm going to draw parallel lines i'm G38oKCvTVEy-00345-00077888-00078015 going to mark G38oKCvTVEy-00346-00078016-00078215 grid points G38oKCvTVEy-00347-00078216-00078399 along G38oKCvTVEy-00348-00078400-00078482 along G38oKCvTVEy-00349-00078483-00078638 y G38oKCvTVEy-00350-00078639-00078806 okay and i'm going to draw parallel G38oKCvTVEy-00351-00078807-00078999 lines here G38oKCvTVEy-00352-00079000-00079206 well the draw the lines in my drawing G38oKCvTVEy-00353-00079207-00079415 are not looking parallel but i intend to G38oKCvTVEy-00354-00079416-00079550 draw parallel lines G38oKCvTVEy-00355-00079551-00079719 okay so i'm going to draw parallel lines G38oKCvTVEy-00356-00079720-00079855 here G38oKCvTVEy-00357-00079856-00080103 okay i want to discretize only in one G38oKCvTVEy-00358-00080104-00080223 direction G38oKCvTVEy-00359-00080224-00080543 and not in the other direction G38oKCvTVEy-00360-00080544-00080750 so G38oKCvTVEy-00361-00080751-00080959 oh no one minute i have made a mistake G38oKCvTVEy-00362-00080960-00081367 here G38oKCvTVEy-00363-00081368-00081703 well i want to draw lines parallel to G38oKCvTVEy-00364-00081704-00082079 x-axis G38oKCvTVEy-00365-00082080-00082238 so i want to draw lines parallel to G38oKCvTVEy-00366-00082239-00082655 x-axis G38oKCvTVEy-00367-00082656-00082847 well it's not really important whether G38oKCvTVEy-00368-00082848-00083199 you discretize you keep uh G38oKCvTVEy-00369-00083200-00083391 you discretize on in x direction or G38oKCvTVEy-00370-00083392-00083526 whether you discretize in y direction G38oKCvTVEy-00371-00083527-00083687 it's not that important G38oKCvTVEy-00372-00083688-00083991 in this particular problem G38oKCvTVEy-00373-00083992-00084094 because of G38oKCvTVEy-00374-00084095-00084303 asymmetric boundary conditions it's it's G38oKCvTVEy-00375-00084304-00084567 good to discretize G38oKCvTVEy-00376-00084568-00084750 along x direction so what i'm going to G38oKCvTVEy-00377-00084751-00084879 do now G38oKCvTVEy-00378-00084880-00085079 i'm going to i'm going to mark this G38oKCvTVEy-00379-00085080-00085367 variable G38oKCvTVEy-00380-00085368-00085679 now this is my notation G38oKCvTVEy-00381-00085680-00086047 okay my notation is t i G38oKCvTVEy-00382-00086048-00086175 y G38oKCvTVEy-00383-00086176-00086415 okay t i y G38oKCvTVEy-00384-00086416-00086526 is a G38oKCvTVEy-00385-00086527-00086799 is a variation of temperature along y G38oKCvTVEy-00386-00086800-00086903 direction G38oKCvTVEy-00387-00086904-00087126 in G38oKCvTVEy-00388-00087127-00087271 along the ith G38oKCvTVEy-00389-00087272-00087479 line parallel to y axis G38oKCvTVEy-00390-00087480-00087599 i have drawn G38oKCvTVEy-00391-00087600-00087847 lines parallel to y axis G38oKCvTVEy-00392-00087848-00088159 okay and t i y is the variation of G38oKCvTVEy-00393-00088160-00088350 temperature G38oKCvTVEy-00394-00088351-00088615 okay along eighth line parallel to the y G38oKCvTVEy-00395-00088616-00088782 axis G38oKCvTVEy-00396-00088783-00089062 okay i'm just fixing x i so this is this G38oKCvTVEy-00397-00089063-00089335 is my x equal to x i G38oKCvTVEy-00398-00089336-00089503 this is the ith point G38oKCvTVEy-00399-00089504-00089582 and G38oKCvTVEy-00400-00089583-00089903 t i y is nothing but G38oKCvTVEy-00401-00089904-00090150 okay so now G38oKCvTVEy-00402-00090151-00090279 the way i'm going to discretize this G38oKCvTVEy-00403-00090280-00090703 equation now is G38oKCvTVEy-00404-00090704-00090903 okay now look at this equation the way i G38oKCvTVEy-00405-00090904-00091103 would discretize this i have discretized G38oKCvTVEy-00406-00091104-00091247 only G38oKCvTVEy-00407-00091248-00091375 in x G38oKCvTVEy-00408-00091376-00091623 special coordinate x i have chosen not G38oKCvTVEy-00409-00091624-00091950 to discretize in y G38oKCvTVEy-00410-00091951-00092094 okay now G38oKCvTVEy-00411-00092095-00092215 i have converted the partial G38oKCvTVEy-00412-00092216-00092526 differential operator G38oKCvTVEy-00413-00092527-00092823 along y to total differential because G38oKCvTVEy-00414-00092824-00092974 now G38oKCvTVEy-00415-00092975-00093191 uh x has been taken care because of G38oKCvTVEy-00416-00093192-00093382 discretization G38oKCvTVEy-00417-00093383-00093615 okay so this becomes G38oKCvTVEy-00418-00093616-00093831 an ordinary differential equation G38oKCvTVEy-00419-00093832-00093950 this becomes an ordinary differential G38oKCvTVEy-00420-00093951-00094135 equation now we have to use boundary G38oKCvTVEy-00421-00094136-00094262 conditions G38oKCvTVEy-00422-00094263-00094518 we have to use boundary conditions right G38oKCvTVEy-00423-00094519-00094662 and boundary conditions because of G38oKCvTVEy-00424-00094663-00094918 boundary conditions you will get is this G38oKCvTVEy-00425-00094919-00095159 one ordinary differential equation G38oKCvTVEy-00426-00095160-00095543 how many you get G38oKCvTVEy-00427-00095544-00095774 at all the internal grid points remember G38oKCvTVEy-00428-00095775-00096191 at all the intelligent points so 2 3 G38oKCvTVEy-00429-00096192-00096406 up to G38oKCvTVEy-00430-00096407-00096606 nx G38oKCvTVEy-00431-00096607-00096918 and this will be the last point is n x G38oKCvTVEy-00432-00096919-00097191 plus 1 so till n x G38oKCvTVEy-00433-00097192-00097438 till last parallel line we get these G38oKCvTVEy-00434-00097439-00097726 differential equations so i goes from G38oKCvTVEy-00435-00097727-00098038 2 3 up to G38oKCvTVEy-00436-00098039-00098231 n x G38oKCvTVEy-00437-00098232-00098359 so you get ordinary differential G38oKCvTVEy-00438-00098360-00098511 equations G38oKCvTVEy-00439-00098512-00098655 you get ordinary differential equations G38oKCvTVEy-00440-00098656-00098879 not one order differential equation you G38oKCvTVEy-00441-00098880-00099079 get coupled set of ordinary differential G38oKCvTVEy-00442-00099080-00099399 equations right G38oKCvTVEy-00443-00099400-00100079 ith value ith value or t y t i y G38oKCvTVEy-00444-00100080-00100271 t i y G38oKCvTVEy-00445-00100272-00100606 is related to t i plus 1 y G38oKCvTVEy-00446-00100607-00100774 and t G38oKCvTVEy-00447-00100775-00101006 i minus 1 y G38oKCvTVEy-00448-00101007-00101271 right so the temperature on the G38oKCvTVEy-00449-00101272-00101494 temperature on ith line is a function of G38oKCvTVEy-00450-00101495-00101982 temperature on this line and this line G38oKCvTVEy-00451-00101983-00102199 ok G38oKCvTVEy-00452-00102200-00102527 is a function of so so what you get here G38oKCvTVEy-00453-00102528-00102671 is a set of coupled ordinary G38oKCvTVEy-00454-00102672-00102815 differential equations not one ordinary G38oKCvTVEy-00455-00102816-00103015 differential equation G38oKCvTVEy-00456-00103016-00103199 okay you get large number of coupled G38oKCvTVEy-00457-00103200-00103415 ordinary differential equations suppose G38oKCvTVEy-00458-00103416-00103510 we G38oKCvTVEy-00459-00103511-00103734 discretize with hundred grid points G38oKCvTVEy-00460-00103735-00103894 internal grid points G38oKCvTVEy-00461-00103895-00104063 hundred coupled ordinary differential G38oKCvTVEy-00462-00104064-00104230 equations need to be solved G38oKCvTVEy-00463-00104231-00104486 simultaneously G38oKCvTVEy-00464-00104488-00104647 okay because neighboring variables G38oKCvTVEy-00465-00104648-00105023 appear in each each one of them and now G38oKCvTVEy-00466-00105024-00105271 we can use the boundary condition to G38oKCvTVEy-00467-00105272-00105463 complete the problem G38oKCvTVEy-00468-00105464-00105590 so G38oKCvTVEy-00469-00105591-00105951 we have this two boundary conditions G38oKCvTVEy-00470-00105952-00106039 uh G38oKCvTVEy-00471-00106040-00106263 t one y G38oKCvTVEy-00472-00106264-00106471 is equal to t star G38oKCvTVEy-00473-00106472-00106551 and G38oKCvTVEy-00474-00106552-00106647 t G38oKCvTVEy-00475-00106648-00106854 n x plus 1 G38oKCvTVEy-00476-00106855-00107095 y is equal to G38oKCvTVEy-00477-00107096-00107271 t star you can use these two conditions G38oKCvTVEy-00478-00107272-00107551 to eliminate some variables G38oKCvTVEy-00479-00107552-00107775 okay you can use this boundary condition G38oKCvTVEy-00480-00107776-00107934 too or you may have to solve it as a G38oKCvTVEy-00481-00107935-00108127 differential algebraic system G38oKCvTVEy-00482-00108128-00108334 okay so you have these G38oKCvTVEy-00483-00108335-00108566 these conditions in addition G38oKCvTVEy-00484-00108567-00108807 plus you will have to have two G38oKCvTVEy-00485-00108808-00108919 conditions G38oKCvTVEy-00486-00108920-00109031 which will now become boundary G38oKCvTVEy-00487-00109032-00109223 conditions for this G38oKCvTVEy-00488-00109224-00109351 ordinary set of ordinary differential G38oKCvTVEy-00489-00109352-00109678 equations so those will arise G38oKCvTVEy-00490-00109679-00110047 because of this and this G38oKCvTVEy-00491-00110048-00110215 so G38oKCvTVEy-00492-00110216-00110463 uh G38oKCvTVEy-00493-00110464-00110863 if i if i just write them in G38oKCvTVEy-00494-00110864-00111063 well we don't have space here okay i'll G38oKCvTVEy-00495-00111064-00111399 write it here G38oKCvTVEy-00496-00111400-00111639 this is one of the boundary conditions G38oKCvTVEy-00497-00111640-00111799 okay and the second one will come G38oKCvTVEy-00498-00111800-00112039 because of discretization of this G38oKCvTVEy-00499-00112040-00112119 okay G38oKCvTVEy-00500-00112120-00112471 and that would be G38oKCvTVEy-00501-00112472-00112583 k G38oKCvTVEy-00502-00112583-00112799 t G38oKCvTVEy-00503-00112800-00113615 i one G38oKCvTVEy-00504-00113616-00113751 so discretization of this boundary G38oKCvTVEy-00505-00113752-00113919 condition will give you G38oKCvTVEy-00506-00113920-00114199 this set of equations G38oKCvTVEy-00507-00114200-00114415 okay now what you get here G38oKCvTVEy-00508-00114416-00114663 what you get here is a second a set of G38oKCvTVEy-00509-00114664-00114839 coupled second order ordinary G38oKCvTVEy-00510-00114840-00115134 differential equations which are these G38oKCvTVEy-00511-00115135-00115454 subject to boundary conditions at G38oKCvTVEy-00512-00115455-00115534 at G38oKCvTVEy-00513-00115535-00116063 y equal to 0 and at y equal to 1 G38oKCvTVEy-00514-00116064-00116375 okay so same problem G38oKCvTVEy-00515-00116376-00116519 difference method G38oKCvTVEy-00516-00116520-00116727 but instead of choosing to discretize in G38oKCvTVEy-00517-00116728-00116831 one G38oKCvTVEy-00518-00116832-00117015 in both the directions if i discretize G38oKCvTVEy-00519-00117016-00117310 only in one direction i get ode boundary G38oKCvTVEy-00520-00117311-00117683 value problem G38oKCvTVEy-00521-00117683-00118031 okay same original pde i get ode G38oKCvTVEy-00522-00118032-00118183 boundary value problem so it depends G38oKCvTVEy-00523-00118183-00118439 upon how you choose to discretize G38oKCvTVEy-00524-00118440-00118519 okay G38oKCvTVEy-00525-00118520-00118758 this problem could yield a set of linear G38oKCvTVEy-00526-00118759-00118895 algebraic equations if you choose to G38oKCvTVEy-00527-00118896-00119071 discuss in one particular way this G38oKCvTVEy-00528-00119072-00119263 problem will yield set of ordinary G38oKCvTVEy-00529-00119264-00119390 differential equations boundary value G38oKCvTVEy-00530-00119391-00119583 problem if you choose to describe it is G38oKCvTVEy-00531-00119583-00119783 on the other way so it depends upon how G38oKCvTVEy-00532-00119783-00120054 you choose to discretize the problem G38oKCvTVEy-00533-00120055-00120151 okay G38oKCvTVEy-00534-00120152-00120263 now i'm just G38oKCvTVEy-00535-00120264-00120431 going to G38oKCvTVEy-00536-00120432-00120663 write one more variation of the same G38oKCvTVEy-00537-00120664-00120831 problem we have been looking at the G38oKCvTVEy-00538-00120832-00121054 steady state equation G38oKCvTVEy-00539-00121055-00121207 what if i G38oKCvTVEy-00540-00121208-00121399 decide to look at G38oKCvTVEy-00541-00121400-00121510 uh G38oKCvTVEy-00542-00121511-00121823 in addition time variation G38oKCvTVEy-00543-00121824-00121999 this is a steady state laplace equation G38oKCvTVEy-00544-00122000-00122158 what about time variation if i if i G38oKCvTVEy-00545-00122159-00122478 include dou t by G38oKCvTVEy-00546-00122479-00122614 you know G38oKCvTVEy-00547-00122615-00122710 then G38oKCvTVEy-00548-00122711-00122854 then i'll have to G38oKCvTVEy-00549-00122855-00123071 then digitization can yield well then G38oKCvTVEy-00550-00123072-00123223 there is a problem in using method of G38oKCvTVEy-00551-00123224-00123399 lines because if you discretize only in G38oKCvTVEy-00552-00123400-00123647 one dimension you will get G38oKCvTVEy-00553-00123648-00123790 another partial differential equation so G38oKCvTVEy-00554-00123791-00124078 which you again have to discretize so G38oKCvTVEy-00555-00124079-00124327 uh it depends upon the problem at hand G38oKCvTVEy-00556-00124328-00124495 so suppose i have here G38oKCvTVEy-00557-00124496-00124799 a modified version of this problem G38oKCvTVEy-00558-00124800-00124983 so the modified version i would just G38oKCvTVEy-00559-00124983-00125854 create here itself G38oKCvTVEy-00560-00125855-00126047 if i add G38oKCvTVEy-00561-00126048-00126375 if i add here okay and my right hand G38oKCvTVEy-00562-00126376-00126783 side is instead of f of x y i'll make it G38oKCvTVEy-00563-00126783-00127054 time dependent G38oKCvTVEy-00564-00127055-00127319 i'll make it time dependent okay G38oKCvTVEy-00565-00127320-00127575 and all these conditions G38oKCvTVEy-00566-00127576-00128007 at boundaries will hold for all time G38oKCvTVEy-00567-00128008-00128199 okay all these conditions at the G38oKCvTVEy-00568-00128200-00128366 boundaries will hold at all time and G38oKCvTVEy-00569-00128367-00128447 then G38oKCvTVEy-00570-00128448-00128695 ah i will also have initial condition so G38oKCvTVEy-00571-00128696-00128814 i'll have to give a G38oKCvTVEy-00572-00128815-00129047 initial distribution of temperature G38oKCvTVEy-00573-00129048-00129158 in the room G38oKCvTVEy-00574-00129159-00129319 so what i want to know is how the G38oKCvTVEy-00575-00129320-00129447 temperature G38oKCvTVEy-00576-00129448-00129566 surface G38oKCvTVEy-00577-00129567-00129910 is changing as a function of time G38oKCvTVEy-00578-00129911-00130110 okay when i am including time derivative G38oKCvTVEy-00579-00130111-00130286 here G38oKCvTVEy-00580-00130288-00130366 okay G38oKCvTVEy-00581-00130367-00130551 i am looking at the special distribution G38oKCvTVEy-00582-00130552-00130751 of temperature in this room or in the G38oKCvTVEy-00583-00130752-00130951 furnace or whatever whatever the G38oKCvTVEy-00584-00130952-00131190 condition is and then i am interested in G38oKCvTVEy-00585-00131191-00131463 time evolution of this temperatures G38oKCvTVEy-00586-00131464-00131719 okay not just the steady state G38oKCvTVEy-00587-00131720-00132007 okay so this problem will also have G38oKCvTVEy-00588-00132008-00132471 additional initial conditions coming up G38oKCvTVEy-00589-00132472-00132654 so the boundary conditions have to hold G38oKCvTVEy-00590-00132655-00132863 for all t G38oKCvTVEy-00591-00132864-00133166 so so this has to hold for G38oKCvTVEy-00592-00133167-00133383 all time t G38oKCvTVEy-00593-00133384-00133575 including this boundary condition G38oKCvTVEy-00594-00133576-00134031 and then you will have G38oKCvTVEy-00595-00134032-00134335 at t is equal to 0 G38oKCvTVEy-00596-00134336-00134478 you will have G38oKCvTVEy-00597-00134479-00134671 temperature G38oKCvTVEy-00598-00134672-00134951 at x y G38oKCvTVEy-00599-00134952-00135535 x y 0 is equal to some function say h G38oKCvTVEy-00600-00135536-00135727 x y so this is the initial condition so G38oKCvTVEy-00601-00135728-00135847 this is the initial G38oKCvTVEy-00602-00135848-00136023 initial distribution of temperature in G38oKCvTVEy-00603-00136024-00136166 the room G38oKCvTVEy-00604-00136167-00136390 okay and then i want to solve this this G38oKCvTVEy-00605-00136391-00136559 problem G38oKCvTVEy-00606-00136560-00136719 what should i do here can you suggest G38oKCvTVEy-00607-00136720-00137111 something G38oKCvTVEy-00608-00137112-00137359 what if i decide to discretize into G38oKCvTVEy-00609-00137360-00137783 special dimensions i discretize in G38oKCvTVEy-00610-00137784-00137935 x and y G38oKCvTVEy-00611-00137936-00138143 i leave temperature as it is what will i G38oKCvTVEy-00612-00138144-00138319 get G38oKCvTVEy-00613-00138320-00138439 i will get ordinary differential G38oKCvTVEy-00614-00138440-00138727 equation initial value problem G38oKCvTVEy-00615-00138728-00138863 i'll get orderly differential equations G38oKCvTVEy-00616-00138864-00139119 initial value problem large number of G38oKCvTVEy-00617-00139120-00139254 large number of ordinary differential G38oKCvTVEy-00618-00139255-00139454 equations which are coupled G38oKCvTVEy-00619-00139455-00139719 okay so here G38oKCvTVEy-00620-00139720-00139847 if i G38oKCvTVEy-00621-00139848-00140175 you know if i now take G38oKCvTVEy-00622-00140176-00140319 i'm not going to completely write the G38oKCvTVEy-00623-00140320-00140495 solution you can work it out i'm just G38oKCvTVEy-00624-00140496-00140678 going to hint at the solution so i'm G38oKCvTVEy-00625-00140679-00140831 going to call now G38oKCvTVEy-00626-00140832-00140902 t G38oKCvTVEy-00627-00140903-00140990 i G38oKCvTVEy-00628-00140991-00141190 j G38oKCvTVEy-00629-00141191-00141327 x G38oKCvTVEy-00630-00141328-00141743 i G38oKCvTVEy-00631-00141744-00142143 or i'm going to call t i j t G38oKCvTVEy-00632-00142144-00142526 is equal to temperature at x i G38oKCvTVEy-00633-00142527-00142647 y z G38oKCvTVEy-00634-00142648-00142743 and G38oKCvTVEy-00635-00142744-00143023 t so like in the previous case i have G38oKCvTVEy-00636-00143024-00143271 created a grid G38oKCvTVEy-00637-00143272-00143599 i have created grid here G38oKCvTVEy-00638-00143600-00143878 and so on i have created a grid and i'm G38oKCvTVEy-00639-00143879-00144159 at at ijth point G38oKCvTVEy-00640-00144160-00144311 the time variation i'm going to write G38oKCvTVEy-00641-00144312-00144463 like this and then well i will G38oKCvTVEy-00642-00144464-00144790 discretize this problem as dt G38oKCvTVEy-00643-00144791-00144999 i comma j G38oKCvTVEy-00644-00145000-00145239 t by dt G38oKCvTVEy-00645-00145240-00145543 plus G38oKCvTVEy-00646-00145544-00145687 alpha times G38oKCvTVEy-00647-00145688-00145983 now i'll approximate this G38oKCvTVEy-00648-00145984-00146119 as t G38oKCvTVEy-00649-00146120-00146407 i G38oKCvTVEy-00650-00146408-00146743 plus 1 comma z minus 2 t G38oKCvTVEy-00651-00146744-00146911 i j G38oKCvTVEy-00652-00146912-00147054 plus G38oKCvTVEy-00653-00147055-00147351 t i G38oKCvTVEy-00654-00147352-00147775 minus 1 G38oKCvTVEy-00655-00147776-00147951 comma z G38oKCvTVEy-00656-00147952-00148166 divided by G38oKCvTVEy-00657-00148167-00148399 delta x square G38oKCvTVEy-00658-00148400-00149031 plus G38oKCvTVEy-00659-00149032-00149278 so if i discretize in two dimensions i G38oKCvTVEy-00660-00149279-00149631 get large number of equations G38oKCvTVEy-00661-00149632-00149783 okay large number of ordinary G38oKCvTVEy-00662-00149784-00149951 differential equations G38oKCvTVEy-00663-00149952-00150095 in time G38oKCvTVEy-00664-00150096-00150231 but in this case G38oKCvTVEy-00665-00150232-00150383 in this case i will not get a boundary G38oKCvTVEy-00666-00150384-00150543 value problem just think about it in G38oKCvTVEy-00667-00150544-00150678 this case i will get a ordinary G38oKCvTVEy-00668-00150679-00150839 differential equations initial value G38oKCvTVEy-00669-00150840-00151102 problem G38oKCvTVEy-00670-00151103-00151239 okay G38oKCvTVEy-00671-00151240-00151366 so G38oKCvTVEy-00672-00151367-00151559 right now we are not talking about how G38oKCvTVEy-00673-00151560-00151687 to solve these problems we are just G38oKCvTVEy-00674-00151688-00151911 talking about transformations we want to G38oKCvTVEy-00675-00151912-00152071 take a problem transform it into a G38oKCvTVEy-00676-00152072-00152295 solvable or computable form how to G38oKCvTVEy-00677-00152296-00152463 actually compute that solution will come G38oKCvTVEy-00678-00152464-00152607 to that later G38oKCvTVEy-00679-00152608-00152775 okay i want to separate these two things G38oKCvTVEy-00680-00152776-00152975 i just want to give you a viewpoint that G38oKCvTVEy-00681-00152976-00153063 well G38oKCvTVEy-00682-00153064-00153223 uh G38oKCvTVEy-00683-00153224-00153390 if i take uh G38oKCvTVEy-00684-00153391-00153575 if i take G38oKCvTVEy-00685-00153576-00153711 a partial differential equation or an G38oKCvTVEy-00686-00153712-00153887 ordinary differential equation i know G38oKCvTVEy-00687-00153888-00154190 from west theorem that G38oKCvTVEy-00688-00154191-00154326 any continuous function can be G38oKCvTVEy-00689-00154327-00154471 approximated G38oKCvTVEy-00690-00154472-00154639 using polynomials G38oKCvTVEy-00691-00154640-00154847 so i use taylor series approximation G38oKCvTVEy-00692-00154848-00155063 construct local approximations of the G38oKCvTVEy-00693-00155064-00155278 differential operator G38oKCvTVEy-00694-00155279-00155366 and G38oKCvTVEy-00695-00155367-00155535 force the so-called residuals to zero G38oKCvTVEy-00696-00155536-00155711 that gives rise to G38oKCvTVEy-00697-00155712-00155854 an G38oKCvTVEy-00698-00155855-00156047 approximate problem G38oKCvTVEy-00699-00156048-00156263 okay approximate problem would look G38oKCvTVEy-00700-00156264-00156383 completely different from the original G38oKCvTVEy-00701-00156384-00156607 problem a pd is giving rise to set of G38oKCvTVEy-00702-00156608-00156775 algebraic equations linear algebraic G38oKCvTVEy-00703-00156776-00157119 equations pd giving rise to set of uh G38oKCvTVEy-00704-00157120-00157247 ordinary differential equations boundary G38oKCvTVEy-00705-00157248-00157423 value problem or a pd giving rise to set G38oKCvTVEy-00706-00157424-00157559 of ordinate differential equations G38oKCvTVEy-00707-00157560-00157775 initial value problem G38oKCvTVEy-00708-00157776-00158007 so we bring all these into some standard G38oKCvTVEy-00709-00158008-00158166 forms and then we apply the standard G38oKCvTVEy-00710-00158167-00158414 tools to solve these problems G38oKCvTVEy-00711-00158415-00158502 okay G38oKCvTVEy-00712-00158503-00158702 that is what you should realize there is G38oKCvTVEy-00713-00158703-00158839 no unique way of coming up with the G38oKCvTVEy-00714-00158840-00159054 discretization you could G38oKCvTVEy-00715-00159055-00159247 you could have your preferences G38oKCvTVEy-00716-00159248-00159447 solve the problem at hand so in this G38oKCvTVEy-00717-00159448-00159623 place you can complete the initial G38oKCvTVEy-00718-00159624-00159799 conditions you can replace all you can G38oKCvTVEy-00719-00159800-00160063 remove the G38oKCvTVEy-00720-00160064-00160214 so this could become a d a e G38oKCvTVEy-00721-00160215-00160383 differential algebraic system with G38oKCvTVEy-00722-00160384-00160559 initial value problem initial condition G38oKCvTVEy-00723-00160560-00160766 specified or if you eliminate it could G38oKCvTVEy-00724-00160767-00160902 be just ordinary differential equations G38oKCvTVEy-00725-00160903-00161183 initial value problem G38oKCvTVEy-00726-00161184-00161390 so till now we were looking at G38oKCvTVEy-00727-00161391-00161575 taylor series approximation G38oKCvTVEy-00728-00161576-00161775 okay and as i said this is only one of G38oKCvTVEy-00729-00161776-00161959 the methods that are used for G38oKCvTVEy-00730-00161960-00162207 discretization other two methods are G38oKCvTVEy-00731-00162208-00162366 interpolation G38oKCvTVEy-00732-00162367-00162566 polynomial interpolation and then least G38oKCvTVEy-00733-00162567-00162799 square approximation so now uh we'll G38oKCvTVEy-00734-00162800-00162990 stop here with uh G38oKCvTVEy-00735-00162991-00163151 kerosene approximation we'll now move on G38oKCvTVEy-00736-00163152-00163302 to polynomial interpolation and let's G38oKCvTVEy-00737-00163303-00163583 see how interpolation can be used to G38oKCvTVEy-00738-00163584-00163814 discretize the same set of problems G38oKCvTVEy-00739-00163815-00164143 uh what i have deliberately done G38oKCvTVEy-00740-00164144-00164399 is in the in the lecture notes is that i G38oKCvTVEy-00741-00164400-00164543 have taken same set of problems and G38oKCvTVEy-00742-00164544-00164671 discretized them using different G38oKCvTVEy-00743-00164672-00164790 approaches G38oKCvTVEy-00744-00164791-00164871 okay G38oKCvTVEy-00745-00164872-00165047 so that you will get a better G38oKCvTVEy-00746-00165048-00165231 insight into what is really happening at G38oKCvTVEy-00747-00165232-00165759 the discretization stage G38oKCvTVEy-00748-00165760-00166063 okay so now let's move on to G38oKCvTVEy-00749-00166064-00166278 interpolation interpolation is something G38oKCvTVEy-00750-00166279-00166478 which probably you are introduced in G38oKCvTVEy-00751-00166479-00166683 your undergraduate G38oKCvTVEy-00752-00166684-00166943 curriculum can anyone tell me what is G38oKCvTVEy-00753-00166944-00167119 interpolation G38oKCvTVEy-00754-00167120-00167414 what is an interpolating polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-00755-00167415-00167551 what is an interpolating polynomial when G38oKCvTVEy-00756-00167552-00167854 do you do interpolation G38oKCvTVEy-00757-00167855-00168199 or interpolating functions G38oKCvTVEy-00758-00168200-00168543 are given a set of points and values G38oKCvTVEy-00759-00168544-00168807 so you are given some set of so you you G38oKCvTVEy-00760-00168808-00168975 actually want to G38oKCvTVEy-00761-00168976-00169078 uh G38oKCvTVEy-00762-00169079-00169302 develop an G38oKCvTVEy-00763-00169303-00169487 approximation for a function continuous G38oKCvTVEy-00764-00169488-00169671 function let's take a continuous G38oKCvTVEy-00765-00169672-00170007 function say u G38oKCvTVEy-00766-00170008-00170183 or to be very precise let me see to G38oKCvTVEy-00767-00170184-00170447 begin with polynomial interpolation G38oKCvTVEy-00768-00170448-00170607 well you can also do functional G38oKCvTVEy-00769-00170608-00170735 interpolation in general function G38oKCvTVEy-00770-00170736-00170902 interpolation but we are interested G38oKCvTVEy-00771-00170903-00171047 right now in polynomial interpolation G38oKCvTVEy-00772-00171048-00171199 because we you use the polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-00773-00171200-00171575 interpolation ideas to come up with uh G38oKCvTVEy-00774-00171576-00171807 approximations or discretization of some G38oKCvTVEy-00775-00171808-00171975 some operators G38oKCvTVEy-00776-00171976-00172143 okay so now G38oKCvTVEy-00777-00172144-00172678 polynomial interpolation is G38oKCvTVEy-00778-00172679-00172799 we are given G38oKCvTVEy-00779-00172800-00173190 some values of say dependent variable G38oKCvTVEy-00780-00173191-00173295 u z G38oKCvTVEy-00781-00173296-00173478 and G38oKCvTVEy-00782-00173479-00173695 independent variable z so we know some G38oKCvTVEy-00783-00173696-00174183 values of u G38oKCvTVEy-00784-00174184-00174423 okay just before i move on to this G38oKCvTVEy-00785-00174424-00174638 let me clarify one point G38oKCvTVEy-00786-00174639-00174838 in finite difference method G38oKCvTVEy-00787-00174839-00175254 i kept on using equal space grid points G38oKCvTVEy-00788-00175255-00175438 okay it is not necessary that you should G38oKCvTVEy-00789-00175439-00175647 have equispace grid points that was only G38oKCvTVEy-00790-00175648-00175887 for the convenience of development G38oKCvTVEy-00791-00175888-00176023 understanding G38oKCvTVEy-00792-00176024-00176126 actually G38oKCvTVEy-00793-00176127-00176414 you can use non-equi space grid points G38oKCvTVEy-00794-00176415-00176719 okay now for example if you are now G38oKCvTVEy-00795-00176720-00176919 when to use non liquid space grid points G38oKCvTVEy-00796-00176920-00177047 and then how to G38oKCvTVEy-00797-00177048-00177231 space them will depend upon your G38oKCvTVEy-00798-00177232-00177502 understanding of the physical problem G38oKCvTVEy-00799-00177503-00177847 okay see for example if you have a pfr G38oKCvTVEy-00800-00177848-00178102 okay if you have a G38oKCvTVEy-00801-00178103-00178319 luxor reactor and let's say most of the G38oKCvTVEy-00802-00178320-00178526 action is in the initial G38oKCvTVEy-00803-00178527-00178766 part of the pfr and later you know the G38oKCvTVEy-00804-00178767-00179135 concentration defiles becomes steady G38oKCvTVEy-00805-00179136-00179311 or it doesn't change too much it becomes G38oKCvTVEy-00806-00179312-00179614 flat okay it's worth putting more grid G38oKCvTVEy-00807-00179615-00179854 points in the initial part G38oKCvTVEy-00808-00179855-00180054 which are at closer which are closer to G38oKCvTVEy-00809-00180055-00180231 each other and then putting sparse grid G38oKCvTVEy-00810-00180232-00180447 points later because there's not much G38oKCvTVEy-00811-00180448-00180683 thing happening at the end of the G38oKCvTVEy-00812-00180684-00180935 reactor okay so this depends upon your G38oKCvTVEy-00813-00180936-00181102 understanding of the problem in some G38oKCvTVEy-00814-00181103-00181399 cases you may want to place close grid G38oKCvTVEy-00815-00181400-00181671 points in the at the two ends and you G38oKCvTVEy-00816-00181672-00181743 know G38oKCvTVEy-00817-00181744-00181999 uh sparse grid points in the middle it G38oKCvTVEy-00818-00182000-00182207 depends upon the problem G38oKCvTVEy-00819-00182208-00182519 okay so there's nothing sacrosanct about G38oKCvTVEy-00820-00182520-00182726 equi-space grid points G38oKCvTVEy-00821-00182727-00183087 equispace grid points only uh make G38oKCvTVEy-00822-00183088-00183359 development on the board simple but G38oKCvTVEy-00823-00183360-00183551 in general when you and as a beginner G38oKCvTVEy-00824-00183552-00183807 you might start with eq space grid point G38oKCvTVEy-00825-00183808-00183935 but then G38oKCvTVEy-00826-00183936-00184151 if you know about some problem where G38oKCvTVEy-00827-00184152-00184335 there is more variation of a particular G38oKCvTVEy-00828-00184336-00184519 special variation in particular region G38oKCvTVEy-00829-00184520-00184726 you can put closer grid points and you G38oKCvTVEy-00830-00184727-00184943 can have sparse grid points G38oKCvTVEy-00831-00184944-00185111 so that depends upon your understanding G38oKCvTVEy-00832-00185112-00185254 of the system G38oKCvTVEy-00833-00185255-00185590 okay so let's move on to this G38oKCvTVEy-00834-00185591-00186014 polynomial interpolation G38oKCvTVEy-00835-00186015-00186190 now what i want to do here is i have G38oKCvTVEy-00836-00186191-00186543 this G38oKCvTVEy-00837-00186544-00186863 function G38oKCvTVEy-00838-00186864-00187175 i have this function u z G38oKCvTVEy-00839-00187176-00187295 okay G38oKCvTVEy-00840-00187296-00187511 as a function of independent variable z G38oKCvTVEy-00841-00187512-00187743 and i know the function values at these G38oKCvTVEy-00842-00187744-00187887 discrete points G38oKCvTVEy-00843-00187888-00188071 okay at this discrete points in the G38oKCvTVEy-00844-00188072-00188166 domain G38oKCvTVEy-00845-00188167-00188359 so G38oKCvTVEy-00846-00188360-00188743 i know G38oKCvTVEy-00847-00188744-00188966 so this is my point number one this is G38oKCvTVEy-00848-00188967-00189438 point number two G38oKCvTVEy-00849-00189439-00189647 this is in general it's point G38oKCvTVEy-00850-00189648-00190063 and this is my n plus one point G38oKCvTVEy-00851-00190064-00190190 okay G38oKCvTVEy-00852-00190191-00190519 from z1 to zn G38oKCvTVEy-00853-00190520-00190902 i know i know value of a function G38oKCvTVEy-00854-00190903-00191150 okay now what i want to do is i want to G38oKCvTVEy-00855-00191151-00191343 construct a polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-00856-00191344-00191783 which passes through each one of them G38oKCvTVEy-00857-00191784-00191943 okay i know this is a continuous G38oKCvTVEy-00858-00191944-00192078 function G38oKCvTVEy-00859-00192079-00192326 of independent variable z G38oKCvTVEy-00860-00192327-00192566 okay by vsta's theorem i can approximate G38oKCvTVEy-00861-00192567-00192838 it as a polynomial function G38oKCvTVEy-00862-00192839-00193023 okay where star theorem allows me to G38oKCvTVEy-00863-00193024-00193263 approximate the polynomial function G38oKCvTVEy-00864-00193264-00193454 i want to construct a polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-00865-00193455-00193631 function that passes through all the G38oKCvTVEy-00866-00193632-00194047 points G38oKCvTVEy-00867-00194048-00194295 okay this is different from least square G38oKCvTVEy-00868-00194296-00194431 approximations G38oKCvTVEy-00869-00194432-00194735 which you do in your experimental uh G38oKCvTVEy-00870-00194736-00195031 work you know where you fit a line G38oKCvTVEy-00871-00195032-00195207 so the line may not pass through every G38oKCvTVEy-00872-00195208-00195375 point that is least square approximation G38oKCvTVEy-00873-00195376-00195502 we'll we'll look at least square G38oKCvTVEy-00874-00195503-00195702 approximations little later but right G38oKCvTVEy-00875-00195703-00195878 now we are concerned about constructing G38oKCvTVEy-00876-00195879-00196023 a polynomial that goes through every G38oKCvTVEy-00877-00196024-00196231 point G38oKCvTVEy-00878-00196232-00196407 okay G38oKCvTVEy-00879-00196408-00196663 that goes through every point so G38oKCvTVEy-00880-00196664-00196966 my problem is to construct a polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-00881-00196967-00197295 p z G38oKCvTVEy-00882-00197296-00197423 i am going to construct a polynomial and G38oKCvTVEy-00883-00197424-00197647 approximation pz now G38oKCvTVEy-00884-00197648-00198159 this is alpha 0 alpha 1 G38oKCvTVEy-00885-00198160-00198302 if i have G38oKCvTVEy-00886-00198303-00198590 n plus 1 points i can fit a polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-00887-00198591-00198726 of order n G38oKCvTVEy-00888-00198727-00198895 that exactly passes through all these G38oKCvTVEy-00889-00198896-00199111 points i have to i need a polynomial of G38oKCvTVEy-00890-00199112-00199399 order n because the polynomial must pass G38oKCvTVEy-00891-00199400-00199575 through every point so this is the G38oKCvTVEy-00892-00199576-00199831 constraint okay so what does this G38oKCvTVEy-00893-00199832-00200135 constraint mean so i have these points G38oKCvTVEy-00894-00200136-00200454 z z1 z2 G38oKCvTVEy-00895-00200455-00200823 z n plus 1 i have these points G38oKCvTVEy-00896-00200824-00201095 okay what i want is that value of this G38oKCvTVEy-00897-00201096-00201375 polynomial at each of these points G38oKCvTVEy-00898-00201376-00201566 should be exactly equal to G38oKCvTVEy-00899-00201567-00201695 ui G38oKCvTVEy-00900-00201696-00201854 that is the interpolating polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-00901-00201855-00202014 okay G38oKCvTVEy-00902-00202015-00202183 so i have this G38oKCvTVEy-00903-00202184-00202431 set of constraints G38oKCvTVEy-00904-00202432-00202702 so alpha 0 plus G38oKCvTVEy-00905-00202703-00202831 alpha 1 G38oKCvTVEy-00906-00202832-00202983 z1 G38oKCvTVEy-00907-00202984-00203071 up to G38oKCvTVEy-00908-00203072-00203438 alpha n z 1 raise to n G38oKCvTVEy-00909-00203439-00203878 is equal to u 1 G38oKCvTVEy-00910-00203879-00204014 alpha 0 G38oKCvTVEy-00911-00204015-00204399 plus alpha 1 z 2 G38oKCvTVEy-00912-00204400-00204831 and so on so i get n plus 1 equations G38oKCvTVEy-00913-00204832-00205038 i get these n plus 1 equations in n plus G38oKCvTVEy-00914-00205039-00205182 1 unknowns G38oKCvTVEy-00915-00205183-00205446 what are the unknowns here G38oKCvTVEy-00916-00205448-00205719 alpha 0 alpha 1 alpha 2 up to alpha n G38oKCvTVEy-00917-00205719-00205942 there are n plus 1 unknowns G38oKCvTVEy-00918-00205944-00206246 okay and there are n plus 1 equations G38oKCvTVEy-00919-00206248-00206655 how do you solve this G38oKCvTVEy-00920-00206656-00207279 so this can be simply transformed into G38oKCvTVEy-00921-00207280-00207375 1 G38oKCvTVEy-00922-00207376-00207471 z1 G38oKCvTVEy-00923-00207471-00207758 z1 square G38oKCvTVEy-00924-00207759-00207958 z1 raised to n G38oKCvTVEy-00925-00207959-00208310 1 z2 z2 square G38oKCvTVEy-00926-00208311-00208798 z2 raised to n G38oKCvTVEy-00927-00208800-00209206 so this is simply solving a x equal to b G38oKCvTVEy-00928-00209207-00209606 okay well unfortunately uh G38oKCvTVEy-00929-00209607-00209767 unfortunately life is not so simple G38oKCvTVEy-00930-00209767-00209982 because G38oKCvTVEy-00931-00209983-00210127 it turns out G38oKCvTVEy-00932-00210128-00210310 that if you take if you want to develop G38oKCvTVEy-00933-00210311-00210591 a higher order interpolation polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-00934-00210592-00210742 n third or interpolation polynomial in G38oKCvTVEy-00935-00210744-00211039 general above 3 or 4 G38oKCvTVEy-00936-00211040-00211279 this matrix here G38oKCvTVEy-00937-00211280-00211567 it it looks very simple right a x equal G38oKCvTVEy-00938-00211567-00211687 to b G38oKCvTVEy-00939-00211688-00211871 this is known to you these values are G38oKCvTVEy-00940-00211871-00211991 known to you function values are known G38oKCvTVEy-00941-00211992-00212182 to you right now G38oKCvTVEy-00942-00212183-00212567 okay what you don't know is alpha 0 G38oKCvTVEy-00943-00212567-00212775 to alpha n and G38oKCvTVEy-00944-00212776-00212934 you know this matrix right you know the G38oKCvTVEy-00945-00212935-00213175 point at which so you know z1 you know G38oKCvTVEy-00946-00213176-00213479 z2 so you can create this matrix G38oKCvTVEy-00947-00213480-00213934 we'll see in the course of G38oKCvTVEy-00948-00213935-00214119 looking at G38oKCvTVEy-00949-00214119-00214319 ill-conditioned matrices we'll see that G38oKCvTVEy-00950-00214319-00214479 this is one of the highly ill G38oKCvTVEy-00951-00214480-00214694 conditioned matrix G38oKCvTVEy-00952-00214696-00214782 okay G38oKCvTVEy-00953-00214783-00214982 highly unconditioned matrix G38oKCvTVEy-00954-00214983-00215271 difficult to invert you can get G38oKCvTVEy-00955-00215271-00215494 so high order interpolation polynomials G38oKCvTVEy-00956-00215496-00215734 if you just go by this brute force G38oKCvTVEy-00957-00215735-00215919 approach G38oKCvTVEy-00958-00215919-00216134 can lead you to problems G38oKCvTVEy-00959-00216135-00216415 well one way to get G38oKCvTVEy-00960-00216416-00216782 out of the situation is to use G38oKCvTVEy-00961-00216783-00216967 orthogonal polynomials these polynomials G38oKCvTVEy-00962-00216967-00217206 are not orthogonal G38oKCvTVEy-00963-00217207-00217423 this problem is not orthogonal so that's G38oKCvTVEy-00964-00217423-00217551 why you get into trouble if you use G38oKCvTVEy-00965-00217552-00217798 orthogonal polynomials you can uh come G38oKCvTVEy-00966-00217800-00217958 out of this problem G38oKCvTVEy-00967-00217959-00218110 and then this matrix is very nicely G38oKCvTVEy-00968-00218111-00218279 behaved and so on G38oKCvTVEy-00969-00218280-00218510 uh but right now let's not worry about G38oKCvTVEy-00970-00218511-00218871 non the that part right now let's assume G38oKCvTVEy-00971-00218871-00219087 that this matrix is invertible so how do G38oKCvTVEy-00972-00219088-00219303 i get alpha 0 to alpha n so if this is G38oKCvTVEy-00973-00219304-00219494 my a matrix G38oKCvTVEy-00974-00219496-00219758 if this is my a matrix G38oKCvTVEy-00975-00219759-00220134 and let's say this is my G38oKCvTVEy-00976-00220135-00220310 capital u vector G38oKCvTVEy-00977-00220311-00220639 then and if i call this simply as G38oKCvTVEy-00978-00220640-00220942 theta parameter vector then G38oKCvTVEy-00979-00220944-00221255 you know at least on paper i can write G38oKCvTVEy-00980-00221256-00221734 theta is equal to a inverse G38oKCvTVEy-00981-00221735-00222142 u right G38oKCvTVEy-00982-00222144-00222382 a matrix is known to me u vector i know G38oKCvTVEy-00983-00222383-00222623 the function values at this points theta G38oKCvTVEy-00984-00222623-00222815 i can get what i get is an interpolating G38oKCvTVEy-00985-00222816-00223119 polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-00986-00223119-00223231 okay G38oKCvTVEy-00987-00223232-00223663 this is called interpolating polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-00988-00223664-00223815 well i'm going to use the idea of G38oKCvTVEy-00989-00223816-00224063 interpolating polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-00990-00224064-00224406 uh to discretize boundary value problems G38oKCvTVEy-00991-00224407-00224551 to discretize partial differential G38oKCvTVEy-00992-00224552-00224663 equations G38oKCvTVEy-00993-00224664-00224846 what i'll be getting G38oKCvTVEy-00994-00224848-00225046 there or what i'll what what G38oKCvTVEy-00995-00225048-00225231 the method that is used to do that is G38oKCvTVEy-00996-00225232-00225367 called as method of orthogonal G38oKCvTVEy-00997-00225367-00225534 collocations why this word orthogonal G38oKCvTVEy-00998-00225535-00225710 comes into picture we'll look at those G38oKCvTVEy-00999-00225711-00225871 details G38oKCvTVEy-01000-00225871-00226031 but the basis is G38oKCvTVEy-01001-00226032-00226142 this G38oKCvTVEy-01002-00226144-00226406 that if you know a value at certain G38oKCvTVEy-01003-00226407-00226615 number of points then theta can be G38oKCvTVEy-01004-00226616-00226910 expressed as a inverse u G38oKCvTVEy-01005-00226911-00227094 okay and this polynomial which you get G38oKCvTVEy-01006-00227096-00227303 here if you are able to G38oKCvTVEy-01007-00227304-00227503 calculate all these alpha zero to alpha G38oKCvTVEy-01008-00227504-00227727 n correctly this polynomial will pass G38oKCvTVEy-01009-00227728-00227951 exactly through all these points that is G38oKCvTVEy-01010-00227952-00228094 very important G38oKCvTVEy-01011-00228096-00228191 okay G38oKCvTVEy-01012-00228192-00228471 this polynomial will pass through G38oKCvTVEy-01013-00228471-00228927 each one of these points G38oKCvTVEy-01014-00228928-00229015 it's a G38oKCvTVEy-01015-00229016-00229191 nth order polynomial that passes through G38oKCvTVEy-01016-00229192-00229358 each one of these points now G38oKCvTVEy-01017-00229359-00229806 the trouble i told you is that um G38oKCvTVEy-01018-00229807-00229942 constructing a very high order G38oKCvTVEy-01019-00229944-00230071 polynomial through large number of G38oKCvTVEy-01020-00230071-00230239 points is G38oKCvTVEy-01021-00230240-00230415 uh can give you to some real G38oKCvTVEy-01022-00230416-00230551 conditioning G38oKCvTVEy-01023-00230552-00230734 and when you are discretizing see we saw G38oKCvTVEy-01024-00230735-00230951 in finite difference method what was the G38oKCvTVEy-01025-00230952-00231134 what was the message take home message G38oKCvTVEy-01026-00231135-00231327 that you know if you have more number of G38oKCvTVEy-01027-00231328-00231582 grid points better the solution G38oKCvTVEy-01028-00231583-00231742 okay so when you are discretizing this G38oKCvTVEy-01029-00231744-00231967 is this is true for even for if you use G38oKCvTVEy-01030-00231967-00232239 interpolation approach to discretize so G38oKCvTVEy-01031-00232240-00232439 you will you would need large number of G38oKCvTVEy-01032-00232440-00232567 grid points G38oKCvTVEy-01033-00232567-00232782 okay but that would mean you have to fit G38oKCvTVEy-01034-00232783-00233046 a large order polynomial and then you G38oKCvTVEy-01035-00233048-00233303 can get into ill conditioning problem G38oKCvTVEy-01036-00233304-00233439 now when i when i'm going to do the G38oKCvTVEy-01037-00233440-00233591 development of orthogonal location G38oKCvTVEy-01038-00233592-00233863 method i am not going to bother too much G38oKCvTVEy-01039-00233864-00234015 about digital conditioning i'm just G38oKCvTVEy-01040-00234016-00234151 going to G38oKCvTVEy-01041-00234152-00234358 develop a method to and convey the G38oKCvTVEy-01042-00234359-00234479 approach G38oKCvTVEy-01043-00234480-00234679 but what you really need is G38oKCvTVEy-01044-00234680-00234839 spline interpolation do you know what is G38oKCvTVEy-01045-00234840-00234998 spline interpolation cubic spline G38oKCvTVEy-01046-00235000-00235375 interpolation G38oKCvTVEy-01047-00235376-00235551 well it's it's i have discussed it in G38oKCvTVEy-01048-00235552-00235703 detail in the G38oKCvTVEy-01049-00235704-00235879 lecture notes i'll just give you a brief G38oKCvTVEy-01050-00235880-00236119 idea what is cubic spline interpolation G38oKCvTVEy-01051-00236119-00236351 the exact equations you can see here in G38oKCvTVEy-01052-00236352-00236471 section G38oKCvTVEy-01053-00236471-00236751 uh four point G38oKCvTVEy-01054-00236752-00237031 4.2 but let me explain the idea the G38oKCvTVEy-01055-00237032-00237367 basic idea is this that instead of G38oKCvTVEy-01056-00237367-00237663 fitting one giant polynomial of high G38oKCvTVEy-01057-00237664-00237839 order which passes through all the G38oKCvTVEy-01058-00237840-00237942 equation G38oKCvTVEy-01059-00237944-00238151 we could choose to G38oKCvTVEy-01060-00238152-00238439 we could choose to construct piecewise G38oKCvTVEy-01061-00238440-00238727 polynomial approximation okay so i could G38oKCvTVEy-01062-00238728-00238919 i could construct one approximation G38oKCvTVEy-01063-00238919-00239103 between these two points i could G38oKCvTVEy-01064-00239104-00239255 construct another approximation between G38oKCvTVEy-01065-00239256-00239439 these two points third approximation G38oKCvTVEy-01066-00239440-00239671 between these two points G38oKCvTVEy-01067-00239671-00239942 what i have to make sure is that G38oKCvTVEy-01068-00239944-00240103 these neighboring approximations are G38oKCvTVEy-01069-00240104-00240430 continuous G38oKCvTVEy-01070-00240431-00240598 okay neighboring approximations are G38oKCvTVEy-01071-00240600-00240727 continuous G38oKCvTVEy-01072-00240728-00241039 typically what is done is that we fit G38oKCvTVEy-01073-00241040-00241310 a cubic polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-01074-00241311-00241567 between two neighboring points G38oKCvTVEy-01075-00241567-00241830 okay and make sure that they are G38oKCvTVEy-01076-00241831-00242006 smoothly joined G38oKCvTVEy-01077-00242007-00242134 okay G38oKCvTVEy-01078-00242135-00242271 so how do you make sure that they are G38oKCvTVEy-01079-00242271-00242455 smoothly joined well G38oKCvTVEy-01080-00242456-00242615 we make sure that the first derivative G38oKCvTVEy-01081-00242616-00242798 and the second derivatives match for the G38oKCvTVEy-01082-00242800-00242982 neighboring polynomials G38oKCvTVEy-01083-00242983-00243158 okay so this is called as piecewise G38oKCvTVEy-01084-00243159-00243319 polynomial approximation G38oKCvTVEy-01085-00243319-00243575 and this is many times required G38oKCvTVEy-01086-00243576-00243679 because G38oKCvTVEy-01087-00243680-00243934 uh so what is what is the idea here is G38oKCvTVEy-01088-00243935-00244087 that you still have the same number of G38oKCvTVEy-01089-00244088-00244303 points G38oKCvTVEy-01090-00244304-00244494 okay you still have G38oKCvTVEy-01091-00244496-00244671 u i G38oKCvTVEy-01092-00244671-00244846 that is u G38oKCvTVEy-01093-00244848-00245006 z i for G38oKCvTVEy-01094-00245007-00245082 z G38oKCvTVEy-01095-00245083-00245255 i uh G38oKCvTVEy-01096-00245256-00245487 or i going from G38oKCvTVEy-01097-00245488-00245567 1 G38oKCvTVEy-01098-00245567-00245894 2 up to n plus 1 G38oKCvTVEy-01099-00245896-00246103 okay you still have these grid points G38oKCvTVEy-01100-00246104-00246294 okay now what i'm going to do here in G38oKCvTVEy-01101-00246296-00246798 piecewise possible approximation G38oKCvTVEy-01102-00246800-00246991 well let me be little careful about the G38oKCvTVEy-01103-00246992-00247167 terminology piecewise polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-01104-00247167-00247375 interpolation approximation will be G38oKCvTVEy-01105-00247376-00247679 using in some other context G38oKCvTVEy-01106-00247680-00247839 okay so piecewise polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-01107-00247840-00248055 interpolation G38oKCvTVEy-01108-00248056-00248246 so what i do here G38oKCvTVEy-01109-00248248-00248542 is that i fit a polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-01110-00248544-00248798 between two neighboring points and then G38oKCvTVEy-01111-00248800-00249015 i make sure that there is a continuity G38oKCvTVEy-01112-00249016-00249310 between two neighboring polynomials okay G38oKCvTVEy-01113-00249311-00249575 so i will have a polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-01114-00249576-00249758 p1z G38oKCvTVEy-01115-00249759-00249991 which is G38oKCvTVEy-01116-00249992-00250182 alpha 0 1 G38oKCvTVEy-01117-00250183-00250367 plus G38oKCvTVEy-01118-00250367-00250455 alpha G38oKCvTVEy-01119-00250456-00250806 1 comma 1 now there are many polynomials G38oKCvTVEy-01120-00250807-00250951 so i have to have G38oKCvTVEy-01121-00250952-00251046 you know G38oKCvTVEy-01122-00251048-00251375 uh a notation which is G38oKCvTVEy-01123-00251376-00251606 uh you know which has two coefficients G38oKCvTVEy-01124-00251607-00251798 the coefficients will have alpha zero G38oKCvTVEy-01125-00251800-00251991 one so this is the first polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-01126-00251992-00252158 zeroth coefficient G38oKCvTVEy-01127-00252159-00252255 okay G38oKCvTVEy-01128-00252256-00252534 then G38oKCvTVEy-01129-00252535-00252727 z minus v1 G38oKCvTVEy-01130-00252728-00252855 plus G38oKCvTVEy-01131-00252856-00253239 alpha G38oKCvTVEy-01132-00253240-00253423 2 1 G38oKCvTVEy-01133-00253423-00253679 z minus z1 square G38oKCvTVEy-01134-00253680-00253775 plus G38oKCvTVEy-01135-00253776-00254046 alpha 31 G38oKCvTVEy-01136-00254048-00254206 z minus G38oKCvTVEy-01137-00254207-00254398 z1 cube G38oKCvTVEy-01138-00254400-00254639 and this holds between G38oKCvTVEy-01139-00254640-00254782 z1 G38oKCvTVEy-01140-00254783-00254951 z G38oKCvTVEy-01141-00254952-00255142 2 G38oKCvTVEy-01142-00255144-00255263 p 2 z G38oKCvTVEy-01143-00255264-00255342 is G38oKCvTVEy-01144-00255344-00255575 alpha 0 2 G38oKCvTVEy-01145-00255576-00255758 plus alpha G38oKCvTVEy-01146-00255759-00255927 1 2 G38oKCvTVEy-01147-00255928-00256175 z minus z 2 plus G38oKCvTVEy-01148-00256176-00256334 alpha G38oKCvTVEy-01149-00256335-00256694 2 2 G38oKCvTVEy-01150-00256696-00257015 z minus z2 square G38oKCvTVEy-01151-00257016-00257271 plus alpha 3 to G38oKCvTVEy-01152-00257271-00257446 z minus G38oKCvTVEy-01153-00257448-00257694 z2 cube G38oKCvTVEy-01154-00257696-00257998 so this polynomial holds between G38oKCvTVEy-01155-00258000-00258127 z2 G38oKCvTVEy-01156-00258128-00258246 z G38oKCvTVEy-01157-00258248-00258327 and G38oKCvTVEy-01158-00258328-00258487 z3 G38oKCvTVEy-01159-00258488-00258671 and likewise you know G38oKCvTVEy-01160-00258671-00259030 between each segment G38oKCvTVEy-01161-00259031-00259263 i fit a polynomial in this approach this G38oKCvTVEy-01162-00259264-00259391 is called piecewise polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-01163-00259392-00259639 approximation G38oKCvTVEy-01164-00259640-00259806 okay this is called piecewise polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-01165-00259807-00259975 approximation now how do i make sure G38oKCvTVEy-01166-00259976-00260119 there is continuity G38oKCvTVEy-01167-00260119-00260375 i have to put G38oKCvTVEy-01168-00260376-00260455 some G38oKCvTVEy-01169-00260456-00260767 conditions here G38oKCvTVEy-01170-00260767-00260846 so G38oKCvTVEy-01171-00260848-00261406 one condition is of course G38oKCvTVEy-01172-00261407-00261655 one condition is of course G38oKCvTVEy-01173-00261656-00261882 you know we these G38oKCvTVEy-01174-00261883-00262110 values one condition come from these G38oKCvTVEy-01175-00262111-00262239 values G38oKCvTVEy-01176-00262240-00262375 okay G38oKCvTVEy-01177-00262376-00262510 the other conditions come from the G38oKCvTVEy-01178-00262511-00262879 derivatives G38oKCvTVEy-01179-00262880-00263071 or the smoothness of the derivatives so G38oKCvTVEy-01180-00263072-00263503 other conditions arise G38oKCvTVEy-01181-00263504-00263910 so this is the terminal point G38oKCvTVEy-01182-00263911-00264303 so these are all initial points of each G38oKCvTVEy-01183-00264304-00264782 each polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-01184-00264783-00264967 then we have these conditions which are G38oKCvTVEy-01185-00264968-00265223 continuity conditions p i G38oKCvTVEy-01186-00265224-00265303 z G38oKCvTVEy-01187-00265304-00265447 i plus 1 G38oKCvTVEy-01188-00265448-00265582 is equal to p G38oKCvTVEy-01189-00265583-00265863 i plus 1 G38oKCvTVEy-01190-00265864-00266127 z i plus 1. G38oKCvTVEy-01191-00266128-00266351 so essentially we are saying that the G38oKCvTVEy-01192-00266352-00266543 initial value of this polynomial is same G38oKCvTVEy-01193-00266544-00266727 as the final value of the previous G38oKCvTVEy-01194-00266728-00266839 polynomial G38oKCvTVEy-01195-00266840-00266958 okay G38oKCvTVEy-01196-00266959-00267047 then G38oKCvTVEy-01197-00267048-00267255 you have condition G38oKCvTVEy-01198-00267256-00267558 d p i G38oKCvTVEy-01199-00267559-00267999 z i plus 1 G38oKCvTVEy-01200-00268000-00268287 by dz is equal to dp G38oKCvTVEy-01201-00268288-00268751 i plus 1 G38oKCvTVEy-01202-00268752-00270639 and the third condition is G38oKCvTVEy-01203-00270640-00270879 so to ensure smoothness G38oKCvTVEy-01204-00270880-00271158 we make sure that G38oKCvTVEy-01205-00271159-00271367 the value of these two neighboring G38oKCvTVEy-01206-00271368-00271710 polynomials at the common point is same G38oKCvTVEy-01207-00271711-00271895 the first derivative G38oKCvTVEy-01208-00271896-00272103 of the two neighboring polynomials at G38oKCvTVEy-01209-00272104-00272191 the G38oKCvTVEy-01210-00272192-00272367 common point is same and the second G38oKCvTVEy-01211-00272368-00272582 derivative G38oKCvTVEy-01212-00272583-00272719 of the two neighboring polynomials at G38oKCvTVEy-01213-00272720-00272895 the common point is identical so these G38oKCvTVEy-01214-00272896-00273071 are the additional constraints which we G38oKCvTVEy-01215-00273072-00273287 impose G38oKCvTVEy-01216-00273288-00273487 okay the additional constraints which we G38oKCvTVEy-01217-00273488-00273679 impose if you actually G38oKCvTVEy-01218-00273680-00273823 put all these constraints then you need G38oKCvTVEy-01219-00273824-00274023 two boundary constraints so there are G38oKCvTVEy-01220-00274024-00274167 different ways of specifying the G38oKCvTVEy-01221-00274168-00274358 boundary constraints one of them is G38oKCvTVEy-01222-00274359-00274487 called as G38oKCvTVEy-01223-00274488-00274943 you just look at the the nodes here G38oKCvTVEy-01224-00274944-00275182 so free boundary conditions are we need G38oKCvTVEy-01225-00275183-00275367 two more conditions at the two boundary G38oKCvTVEy-01226-00275368-00275671 points at this point and this point so G38oKCvTVEy-01227-00275672-00275882 those are free boundary conditions would G38oKCvTVEy-01228-00275883-00276047 be G38oKCvTVEy-01229-00276048-00276463 d two p G38oKCvTVEy-01230-00276464-00276591 if you include these two boundary G38oKCvTVEy-01231-00276592-00276782 conditions that at the two boundaries G38oKCvTVEy-01232-00276783-00277047 the second derivative is zero G38oKCvTVEy-01233-00277048-00277215 okay if you include these two boundary G38oKCvTVEy-01234-00277216-00277367 conditions G38oKCvTVEy-01235-00277368-00277463 then G38oKCvTVEy-01236-00277464-00277671 you get number of equations equal to G38oKCvTVEy-01237-00277672-00277863 number of unknowns what are the unknowns G38oKCvTVEy-01238-00277864-00278119 here G38oKCvTVEy-01239-00278120-00278623 alpha values okay how many alpha values G38oKCvTVEy-01240-00278624-00278758 4 into n G38oKCvTVEy-01241-00278759-00278910 okay you can do some algebraic G38oKCvTVEy-01242-00278911-00279079 manipulations and finally reduce this G38oKCvTVEy-01243-00279080-00279327 problem to ax equal to b where a is a G38oKCvTVEy-01244-00279328-00279510 sparse matrix the manipulations are G38oKCvTVEy-01245-00279511-00279655 given here you can just have a look at G38oKCvTVEy-01246-00279656-00279782 it G38oKCvTVEy-01247-00279783-00279871 but G38oKCvTVEy-01248-00279872-00280087 interpolation G38oKCvTVEy-01249-00280088-00280271 when it is not possible to do high order G38oKCvTVEy-01250-00280272-00280439 interpolation this G38oKCvTVEy-01251-00280440-00280630 cubic polynomial interpolation will be G38oKCvTVEy-01252-00280631-00280879 used okay and that will that will lead G38oKCvTVEy-01253-00280880-00281023 to uh G38oKCvTVEy-01254-00281024-00281182 orthogonal collocations on finite G38oKCvTVEy-01255-00281183-00281351 element so we'll get a method finite G38oKCvTVEy-01256-00281352-00281671 element method uh if you do you know G38oKCvTVEy-01257-00281672-00281863 polynomial interpolations on a smaller G38oKCvTVEy-01258-00281864-00282015 domain G38oKCvTVEy-01259-00282016-00282279 so there are different ways of uh doing G38oKCvTVEy-01260-00282280-00282406 interpolation G38oKCvTVEy-01261-00282407-00282687 and it's a very very rich area i am just G38oKCvTVEy-01262-00282688-00282871 touching the tip of the iceberg by G38oKCvTVEy-01263-00282872-00283047 talking about these two basic ideas G38oKCvTVEy-01264-00283048-00283263 which i need to develop my further G38oKCvTVEy-01265-00283264-00283510 uh approach so the next next lecture G38oKCvTVEy-01266-00283511-00283767 i'll start using interpolation idea not G38oKCvTVEy-01267-00283768-00283934 the cubic cubic polymer G38oKCvTVEy-01268-00283935-00284119 not the piecewise polymer interpolation G38oKCvTVEy-01269-00284120-00284303 simple interpolation G38oKCvTVEy-01270-00284304-00284519 okay nth order polynomial passing G38oKCvTVEy-01271-00284520-00284743 through all n plus one points G38oKCvTVEy-01272-00284744-00284903 this simple idea i'm going to use to G38oKCvTVEy-01273-00284904-00285063 develop method of orthogonal G38oKCvTVEy-01274-00285064-00285223 collocations G38oKCvTVEy-01275-00285224-00285327 okay G38oKCvTVEy-01276-00285328-00285423 so G38oKCvTVEy-01277-00285424-00285567 by the method of orthogonal locations G38oKCvTVEy-01278-00285568-00285758 we'll discretize again boundary value G38oKCvTVEy-01279-00285759-00285943 problems and partial differential G38oKCvTVEy-01280-00285944-00286071 equations G38oKCvTVEy-01281-00286072-00286279 okay so you will again revisit the same G38oKCvTVEy-01282-00286280-00286406 problems G38oKCvTVEy-01283-00286407-00286647 but through a different approach G38oKCvTVEy-01284-00286648-00286854 okay G38oKCvTVEy-01285-00286855-00286934 so G38oKCvTVEy-01286-00286935-00287175 orthogonal collocations G38oKCvTVEy-01287-00287176-00287471 is a very popular method in fact G38oKCvTVEy-01288-00287472-00287751 it's a method which which requires less G38oKCvTVEy-01289-00287752-00287863 number of G38oKCvTVEy-01290-00287864-00288047 grid points to get the same accuracy as G38oKCvTVEy-01291-00288048-00288206 that of the finite element finite G38oKCvTVEy-01292-00288207-00288367 difference method G38oKCvTVEy-01293-00288368-00288534 finite difference method would require G38oKCvTVEy-01294-00288535-00288719 large number of grid points G38oKCvTVEy-01295-00288720-00288934 this method gives G38oKCvTVEy-01296-00288935-00289110 better solutions with less number of G38oKCvTVEy-01297-00289111-00289254 grid points so this is computationally G38oKCvTVEy-01298-00289255-00289391 less G38oKCvTVEy-01299-00289392-00289615 expensive as compared to finite G38oKCvTVEy-01300-00289616-00289758 difference method G38oKCvTVEy-01301-00289759-00289934 okay that's why we want to go for G38oKCvTVEy-01302-00289935-00290283 polynomial interpolation G4di_y6MoPu-00000-00000017-00000281 from the cube studios in Palo Alto in G4di_y6MoPu-00001-00000282-00000457 Boston connecting with thought leaders G4di_y6MoPu-00002-00000458-00000701 all around the world this is a cube G4di_y6MoPu-00003-00000702-00001019 conversation all right welcome to G4di_y6MoPu-00004-00001019-00001178 special cube conversation I'm John G4di_y6MoPu-00005-00001179-00001408 Ferrari join Dave Allante for special G4di_y6MoPu-00006-00001409-00001648 report and analysis on the Dell G4di_y6MoPu-00007-00001650-00002080 technologies VMware spin out transaction G4di_y6MoPu-00008-00002081-00002418 contemplation story circulating rumors G4di_y6MoPu-00009-00002419-00002672 thanks for joining Dave great to see you G4di_y6MoPu-00010-00002673-00002948 yesterday we filmed a zoom I was at home G4di_y6MoPu-00011-00002949-00003104 you were in the office we had to get the G4di_y6MoPu-00012-00003105-00003313 story out for the hot take on the news G4di_y6MoPu-00013-00003314-00003544 at Dell technologies is spinning out G4di_y6MoPu-00014-00003545-00004045 VMware we had a lot of hot takes you got G4di_y6MoPu-00015-00004046-00004231 some amendments to make but one of the G4di_y6MoPu-00016-00004232-00004470 things that came out of that was that we G4di_y6MoPu-00017-00004471-00004742 after we had the interview we said G4di_y6MoPu-00018-00004743-00004856 looking let's just go get some more data G4di_y6MoPu-00019-00004857-00005072 so I went out off on my own you went off G4di_y6MoPu-00020-00005073-00005210 on your own to get some Diggins to get G4di_y6MoPu-00021-00005211-00005393 some data and get some reporting on this G4di_y6MoPu-00022-00005394-00005576 investigate this further here's what G4di_y6MoPu-00023-00005577-00005827 I've found I've heard a rumor and have G4di_y6MoPu-00024-00005828-00006017 confirmed from a great source that G4di_y6MoPu-00025-00006018-00006211 Michael Dell isn't selling so those G4di_y6MoPu-00026-00006212-00006517 stories off which we mean our half-hour G4di_y6MoPu-00027-00006518-00006719 analysis is off but I also got some data G4di_y6MoPu-00028-00006720-00006938 that points to some other things that we G4di_y6MoPu-00029-00006939-00007241 said are consistent so one I want to get G4di_y6MoPu-00030-00007242-00007445 your thoughts the rumor that I'm hearing G4di_y6MoPu-00031-00007445-00007739 is that Dell is not selling from my G4di_y6MoPu-00032-00007740-00007953 sources what are you hearing G4di_y6MoPu-00033-00007954-00008149 yeah I think there's a different take G4di_y6MoPu-00034-00008150-00008291 here John I mean everybody assume when G4di_y6MoPu-00035-00008292-00008483 the press release came out in the 13 d G4di_y6MoPu-00036-00008484-00008795 that Dell was spinning off its at stake G4di_y6MoPu-00037-00008796-00008981 if people in inferred from that that G4di_y6MoPu-00038-00008982-00009287 they were selling I think in fact this G4di_y6MoPu-00039-00009288-00009599 is not a sale I think everybody was G4di_y6MoPu-00040-00009600-00009680 wrong about that G4di_y6MoPu-00041-00009681-00009959 I think in fact what what what Dell is G4di_y6MoPu-00042-00009960-00010352 gonna do is distribute its stake it's 81 G4di_y6MoPu-00043-00010353-00010973 percent stake to shareholders and so to G4di_y6MoPu-00044-00010974-00011156 Dell shareholders and of course what's G4di_y6MoPu-00045-00011157-00011467 gonna happen is Michael Dell owns a very G4di_y6MoPu-00046-00011468-00011663 large portion of Dell technologies I G4di_y6MoPu-00047-00011664-00011878 think my recollection I think it's over G4di_y6MoPu-00048-00011879-00012220 60% and as a result he's the largest G4di_y6MoPu-00049-00012221-00012608 shareholder of Dell and he's that 81 G4di_y6MoPu-00050-00012609-00012808 percent is gonna get distributed to the G4di_y6MoPu-00051-00012809-00012961 Dell shareholders so he's going to end G4di_y6MoPu-00052-00012962-00013333 up with more than half G4di_y6MoPu-00053-00013334-00013663 of the ownership of VMware all said and G4di_y6MoPu-00054-00013665-00013945 done the Michael Dell is is I think G4di_y6MoPu-00055-00013946-00014236 ultimately going to gonna have more than G4di_y6MoPu-00056-00014237-00014350 half of the ownership of Dell G4di_y6MoPu-00057-00014351-00014613 technologies I think it's 60 65 percent G4di_y6MoPu-00058-00014615-00014900 probably 63 65 percent somewhere in G4di_y6MoPu-00059-00014901-00015130 there by my recollection and I and he's G4di_y6MoPu-00060-00015131-00015414 gonna end up with more than 51% of G4di_y6MoPu-00061-00015415-00015691 VMware John and so you're gonna have I G4di_y6MoPu-00062-00015693-00015838 mean make it would make sense wouldn't G4di_y6MoPu-00063-00015840-00016075 it that the that the majority G4di_y6MoPu-00064-00016076-00016273 shareholder is gonna be chairman of both G4di_y6MoPu-00065-00016274-00016408 companies and so you've talked about G4di_y6MoPu-00066-00016409-00016609 people on this is that right so just to G4di_y6MoPu-00067-00016610-00016792 get some background what where's yeah I G4di_y6MoPu-00068-00016793-00016961 think some people I think some people on G4di_y6MoPu-00069-00016962-00017125 Wall Street have figured this out but G4di_y6MoPu-00070-00017126-00017261 it's definitely not hit the mainstream G4di_y6MoPu-00071-00017262-00017578 news I think you know if you read the G4di_y6MoPu-00072-00017579-00017818 news you read like the register you read G4di_y6MoPu-00073-00017819-00017980 I mean essentially we made the same G4di_y6MoPu-00074-00017981-00018187 inference that the Dell was becoming G4di_y6MoPu-00075-00018188-00018550 untethered to VMware funding at all I G4di_y6MoPu-00076-00018551-00018700 don't think that's happening at all I G4di_y6MoPu-00077-00018701-00018937 also I've talked to a number of G4di_y6MoPu-00078-00018938-00019175 customers John about this asking them G4di_y6MoPu-00079-00019176-00019289 what they thought about the news G4di_y6MoPu-00080-00019290-00019472 yesterday and there was a big shrug I G4di_y6MoPu-00081-00019473-00019655 mean I talked to one customer said hey G4di_y6MoPu-00082-00019656-00019840 you know in the old days I bought I G4di_y6MoPu-00083-00019841-00019999 bought blocked from EMC G4di_y6MoPu-00084-00020000-00020275 I bought file from NetApp they both made G4di_y6MoPu-00085-00020276-00020440 great products they both were VMware G4di_y6MoPu-00086-00020441-00020633 friendly this doesn't affect me one bit G4di_y6MoPu-00087-00020634-00020855 and other customers I talked to said G4di_y6MoPu-00088-00020856-00021136 yeah I don't really see any any big G4di_y6MoPu-00089-00021137-00021334 change here and I don't think anything's G4di_y6MoPu-00090-00021335-00021530 gonna change I think if Michael Dell is G4di_y6MoPu-00091-00021531-00021733 the chairman of both companies I don't G4di_y6MoPu-00092-00021734-00021886 think anything changes all right so to G4di_y6MoPu-00093-00021887-00022178 correct what we had what we had are hot G4di_y6MoPu-00094-00022179-00022444 take which was untethering spinning out G4di_y6MoPu-00095-00022445-00022672 vmware implying that there's gonna be G4di_y6MoPu-00096-00022673-00022880 untethering or vmware can make it on G4di_y6MoPu-00097-00022881-00023030 their own whichever I think I think our G4di_y6MoPu-00098-00023031-00023336 analysis was right on the on the value G4di_y6MoPu-00099-00023337-00023549 of VMware so I mean I stand by that G4di_y6MoPu-00100-00023550-00023933 report no problem it's the specifics of G4di_y6MoPu-00101-00023934-00024256 Dell technologies appearing as if G4di_y6MoPu-00102-00024257-00024559 they're unloading it okay so that's the G4di_y6MoPu-00103-00024560-00024724 new one every year so the new one that's G4di_y6MoPu-00104-00024725-00024914 for ichael Dell actually is gonna G4di_y6MoPu-00105-00024915-00025105 maintain stay in control he's not going G4di_y6MoPu-00106-00025106-00025144 anywhere G4di_y6MoPu-00107-00025145-00025294 that's what you're just saying is that G4di_y6MoPu-00108-00025295-00025522 true yep picture the block diagrams you G4di_y6MoPu-00109-00025523-00025733 got Dell over here and inside of Dell G4di_y6MoPu-00110-00025733-00026024 you have 81 percent ownership of VMware G4di_y6MoPu-00111-00026025-00026150 and over here you have VMware G4di_y6MoPu-00112-00026151-00026399 essentially what what what Dell is doing G4di_y6MoPu-00113-00026400-00026651 is saying okay all you Dell shareholders G4di_y6MoPu-00114-00026652-00026711 we're going to G4di_y6MoPu-00115-00026712-00027050 now directly owned those VMware shares G4di_y6MoPu-00116-00027051-00027190 and so they're gonna transfer G4di_y6MoPu-00117-00027191-00027506 essentially from owning Dell to owning G4di_y6MoPu-00118-00027507-00027698 VMware directly of course Michael Dell G4di_y6MoPu-00119-00027699-00027908 now is gonna own VMware directly as G4di_y6MoPu-00120-00027908-00028093 opposed to owning it through his G4di_y6MoPu-00121-00028094-00028343 ownership of Dell as a result it cleans G4di_y6MoPu-00122-00028344-00028621 up the hair on this this this G4di_y6MoPu-00123-00028622-00028862 conglomerate structure which means it's G4di_y6MoPu-00124-00028863-00028993 unlocked and you've seen it in the stock G4di_y6MoPu-00125-00028994-00029189 market today in the last you know month G4di_y6MoPu-00126-00029189-00029417 its unlocking value for Dell its G4di_y6MoPu-00127-00029418-00029608 unlocking value for VMware John on June G4di_y6MoPu-00128-00029610-00029810 22nd prior to the Wall Street Journal G4di_y6MoPu-00129-00029811-00029942 breaking that they were contemplating G4di_y6MoPu-00130-00029943-00030214 this Dells core value in other words the G4di_y6MoPu-00131-00030216-00030560 value net of VMware was around negative G4di_y6MoPu-00132-00030561-00030946 23 billion today it's negative 4 billion G4di_y6MoPu-00133-00030947-00031106 so they've already compressed about 20 G4di_y6MoPu-00134-00031107-00031402 billion dollars out of that negative G4di_y6MoPu-00135-00031403-00031639 value and that's the arbitrage play now G4di_y6MoPu-00136-00031641-00031840 and I think it just goes up for here the G4di_y6MoPu-00137-00031841-00032062 second thing is a lot of investors that G4di_y6MoPu-00138-00032063-00032290 I talked to won't touch VMware stock G4di_y6MoPu-00139-00032291-00032587 because it's controlled by Dell this G4di_y6MoPu-00140-00032588-00032876 this this this liquidity hangover that I G4di_y6MoPu-00141-00032877-00033056 always talk about I think this is gonna G4di_y6MoPu-00142-00033057-00033230 bring other investors you know in from G4di_y6MoPu-00143-00033231-00033308 the sidelines G4di_y6MoPu-00144-00033309-00033658 so that is everybody inferred that that G4di_y6MoPu-00145-00033659-00033818 Dell was becoming untethered Dell G4di_y6MoPu-00146-00033819-00033968 becomes a lot less interesting without G4di_y6MoPu-00147-00033969-00034457 VMware that that that's wrong nothing G4di_y6MoPu-00148-00034458-00034736 really changes in terms of the G4di_y6MoPu-00149-00034737-00034927 commercial relationship between these G4di_y6MoPu-00150-00034928-00035152 two companies and the impact on customer G4di_y6MoPu-00151-00035153-00035465 so essentially if I oversimplify it from G4di_y6MoPu-00152-00035466-00035849 my simple brain here Della's IP ohing G4di_y6MoPu-00153-00035850-00036196 shares of VMware to the shareholders of G4di_y6MoPu-00154-00036197-00036571 Dell what a benefit that is yeah I mean G4di_y6MoPu-00155-00036572-00036758 again just I mean it's not an IPO in the G4di_y6MoPu-00156-00036759-00036943 sense of an IPO it's basically saying G4di_y6MoPu-00157-00036944-00037292 hey shareholders of Dell good job if you G4di_y6MoPu-00158-00037293-00037601 want the value of VMware go take it so G4di_y6MoPu-00159-00037602-00037765 you remember how this all came about G4di_y6MoPu-00160-00037766-00038054 there's remember when Dell bought VMware G4di_y6MoPu-00161-00038055-00038302 they had did they had a gap between the G4di_y6MoPu-00162-00038303-00038440 amount of cash they could raise the G4di_y6MoPu-00163-00038441-00038585 round of debt they took on the amount of G4di_y6MoPu-00164-00038586-00038786 cash that Michael Dell and Silverlake G4di_y6MoPu-00165-00038787-00038960 and a couple other partners threw in G4di_y6MoPu-00166-00038961-00039133 like it was only about 4 billion to get G4di_y6MoPu-00167-00039134-00039461 67 billion and the way they they they G4di_y6MoPu-00168-00039462-00039656 covered that gap was they created a G4di_y6MoPu-00169-00039657-00040035 tracking stock called DVM T and DV G4di_y6MoPu-00170-00040036-00040315 he was supposed to track VMware VMware G4di_y6MoPu-00171-00040316-00040548 value it really didn't and so what G4di_y6MoPu-00172-00040549-00040817 happened was DVM T was a public company G4di_y6MoPu-00173-00040818-00041076 Dell wanted to go public again and it G4di_y6MoPu-00174-00041077-00041224 said ok we're gonna do this through G4di_y6MoPu-00175-00041225-00041499 through the DVM t vehicle and we're G4di_y6MoPu-00176-00041500-00041720 gonna we're gonna issue shares of Dell G4di_y6MoPu-00177-00041721-00042020 and remember Carl Icahn and Elliott they G4di_y6MoPu-00178-00042021-00042279 were very active and they got Michael in G4di_y6MoPu-00179-00042280-00042432 a headlock and said we need more if G4di_y6MoPu-00180-00042433-00042527 you're gonna do that and they did G4di_y6MoPu-00181-00042528-00042749 ultimately Dell goes public but then G4di_y6MoPu-00182-00042750-00043026 they face this liquidity hangover and so G4di_y6MoPu-00183-00043027-00043395 also you might recall that Dell floated G4di_y6MoPu-00184-00043396-00043707 pivotal and monetize that to delever G4di_y6MoPu-00185-00043708-00043923 they paid down some debt and then G4di_y6MoPu-00186-00043924-00044087 basically went to VMware and said ok G4di_y6MoPu-00187-00044088-00044312 you're gonna buy pivotal back they use G4di_y6MoPu-00188-00044313-00044604 some cash and they issued shares so my G4di_y6MoPu-00189-00044605-00044945 the Dells ownership of VMware escalate G4di_y6MoPu-00190-00044946-00045149 it to 81 percent at the time that's how G4di_y6MoPu-00191-00045150-00045279 they got to 81 percent I remember G4di_y6MoPu-00192-00045280-00045443 thinking wow how much this company G4di_y6MoPu-00193-00045444-00045683 they're gonna own well this is this is G4di_y6MoPu-00194-00045684-00045890 what it allowed them to do it now allows G4di_y6MoPu-00195-00045891-00046127 them to distribute the shares and allows G4di_y6MoPu-00196-00046128-00046499 Michael Dell personally to have the G4di_y6MoPu-00197-00046500-00046701 majority ownership of VMware him it's G4di_y6MoPu-00198-00046702-00047154 absolute genius and it cleans up the the G4di_y6MoPu-00199-00047155-00047361 structure of the organization so instead G4di_y6MoPu-00200-00047362-00047592 of having to own VMware through Dell G4di_y6MoPu-00201-00047593-00047768 which by the way I've always said it's a G4di_y6MoPu-00202-00047769-00048024 cheap way to own VMware a good move if G4di_y6MoPu-00203-00048025-00048305 you bought Dell stock to buy to own G4di_y6MoPu-00204-00048306-00048651 VMware now you own VMware directly and G4di_y6MoPu-00205-00048652-00048851 of course Michael Dell owns it directly G4di_y6MoPu-00206-00048852-00049170 absolute genius move over the last three G4di_y6MoPu-00207-00049171-00049337 four or five years yeah and one of these G4di_y6MoPu-00208-00049338-00049551 we did say in our hot take yesterday was G4di_y6MoPu-00209-00049552-00049782 is that that negative value of gel G4di_y6MoPu-00210-00049783-00050080 technology world technologies gets G4di_y6MoPu-00211-00050081-00050357 shrunk and also can create value here G4di_y6MoPu-00212-00050358-00050477 they're even getting more value into G4di_y6MoPu-00213-00050478-00050661 ownership of VMware so I got it but I G4di_y6MoPu-00214-00050662-00050792 got to ask you you mentioned a comment G4di_y6MoPu-00215-00050793-00050964 about this liquidity hangover and they G4di_y6MoPu-00216-00050965-00051170 have this dividend could you explain G4di_y6MoPu-00217-00051171-00051329 that because I just not found this G4di_y6MoPu-00218-00051330-00051650 liquidity problem well this is very G4di_y6MoPu-00219-00051651-00051857 interesting so tell because it has so G4di_y6MoPu-00220-00051858-00052016 much debt number one number two because G4di_y6MoPu-00221-00052017-00052434 it has a controlling a a share ownership G4di_y6MoPu-00222-00052435-00052728 of VMware and it has 90 plus percent G4di_y6MoPu-00223-00052729-00053076 voting power shareholders penalized at G4di_y6MoPu-00224-00053077-00053394 Dell and and so G4di_y6MoPu-00225-00053395-00053598 the big thing here is the debt what G4di_y6MoPu-00226-00053599-00053831 essentially Dell is doing it people G4di_y6MoPu-00227-00053832-00054024 always you know joke that VMware's Dells G4di_y6MoPu-00228-00054025-00054186 piggy bank and it's true and here it G4di_y6MoPu-00229-00054187-00054338 comes again we saw that with pivotal we G4di_y6MoPu-00230-00054339-00054612 saw that with DVM T what I think is G4di_y6MoPu-00231-00054613-00054849 happening John is is Dell is going to G4di_y6MoPu-00232-00054850-00055125 essentially transfer some of its debt to G4di_y6MoPu-00233-00055126-00055367 VMware so it's going to have VMware take G4di_y6MoPu-00234-00055369-00055550 on a little bit more debt it's it has G4di_y6MoPu-00235-00055551-00055855 said that they want to maintain G4di_y6MoPu-00236-00055857-00056196 investment-grade ratings for VMware G4di_y6MoPu-00237-00056197-00056405 which currently has great ratings Dell G4di_y6MoPu-00238-00056407-00056586 does not have investment grade rating it G4di_y6MoPu-00239-00056587-00056724 needs to pay down more debt so G4di_y6MoPu-00240-00056725-00056841 essentially it's going to shift some of G4di_y6MoPu-00241-00056841-00057155 that debt to VMware through a special G4di_y6MoPu-00242-00057157-00057518 dividend of which Dell will be a great G4di_y6MoPu-00243-00057519-00057800 beneficiary and will allow Dell to pay G4di_y6MoPu-00244-00057801-00058035 down some of that debt so that it G4di_y6MoPu-00245-00058036-00058341 becomes become investment grade and they G4di_y6MoPu-00246-00058341-00058575 want to take on an amount of debt that G4di_y6MoPu-00247-00058576-00058911 will not crush VMware's balance sheet so G4di_y6MoPu-00248-00058912-00059121 that it will also be investment grade so G4di_y6MoPu-00249-00059122-00059298 they're creating this equilibrium if you G4di_y6MoPu-00250-00059299-00059555 will now I've heard the ceiling on G4di_y6MoPu-00251-00059557-00059709 VMware's debt in order to get to G4di_y6MoPu-00252-00059710-00060003 equilibrium is order to maintain G4di_y6MoPu-00253-00060004-00060186 investment grade is no more than five G4di_y6MoPu-00254-00060187-00060425 billion but I've also heard much much G4di_y6MoPu-00255-00060426-00060605 higher numbers as high as eight the G4di_y6MoPu-00256-00060607-00060798 tenth and maybe even twelve billion I G4di_y6MoPu-00257-00060799-00060975 don't know VMware can take on that much G4di_y6MoPu-00258-00060976-00061221 debt and maintain investment grade the G4di_y6MoPu-00259-00061222-00061446 point is there's some number there which G4di_y6MoPu-00260-00061447-00061694 V which Dell is going to force VMware to G4di_y6MoPu-00261-00061695-00062051 take on that debt now one last thing G4di_y6MoPu-00262-00062052-00062366 I'll say is despite Michael Dell Dells G4di_y6MoPu-00263-00062367-00062651 Technologies ownership and control 90 G4di_y6MoPu-00264-00062652-00062863 plus percent control it has a fiduciary G4di_y6MoPu-00265-00062864-00063116 responsibility to shareholders but my G4di_y6MoPu-00266-00063117-00063291 view is it's meeting that responsibility G4di_y6MoPu-00267-00063291-00063563 because the value its unlocking value so G4di_y6MoPu-00268-00063564-00063782 who can complain it's again is G4di_y6MoPu-00269-00063783-00063987 absolutely fascinating and brilliant but G4di_y6MoPu-00270-00063988-00064130 that's what that dividend is all about G4di_y6MoPu-00271-00064131-00064515 is is is Dell saying okay VMware you're G4di_y6MoPu-00272-00064516-00064665 going to take on more debt and you're G4di_y6MoPu-00273-00064666-00064860 gonna help us pay down the Dell debt and G4di_y6MoPu-00274-00064861-00065037 you're gonna take on more we're both be G4di_y6MoPu-00275-00065038-00065211 investment grade and they both get G4di_y6MoPu-00276-00065212-00065555 valued again increase yeah so yes in a G4di_y6MoPu-00277-00065556-00065756 real engineering deal Michael Dell still G4di_y6MoPu-00278-00065757-00065991 can run both companies do you still G4di_y6MoPu-00279-00065992-00066248 think he will be running both companies G4di_y6MoPu-00280-00066249-00066447 yeah I think there's no question that G4di_y6MoPu-00281-00066448-00066618 Michael Dell will be the chairman of G4di_y6MoPu-00282-00066619-00066765 Delhi is the chairman G4di_y6MoPu-00283-00066766-00066987 technology's chairman of VMware he's G4di_y6MoPu-00284-00066988-00067239 going to continue to be and so this this G4di_y6MoPu-00285-00067240-00067458 this this commercial agreement that G4di_y6MoPu-00286-00067459-00067806 they're gonna sign is so wire deal with G4di_y6MoPu-00287-00067807-00068058 VMware and Dell and and by the way there G4di_y6MoPu-00288-00068059-00068310 is every incentive for VMware to do this G4di_y6MoPu-00289-00068311-00068451 people may say hey they're strong-arming G4di_y6MoPu-00290-00068452-00068793 Dell blah blah blah but VMware Dell is a G4di_y6MoPu-00291-00068794-00069066 huge distribution channel for VMware and G4di_y6MoPu-00292-00069067-00069180 I'll tell you something that Dell has G4di_y6MoPu-00293-00069181-00069492 done that better than emt AMC and Joe to G4di_y6MoPu-00294-00069493-00069636 Chia ever didn't you know we're big fans G4di_y6MoPu-00295-00069637-00070008 of Joe touchy but Dell has unlocked a G4di_y6MoPu-00296-00070009-00070391 channel for VMware the way EMC never did G4di_y6MoPu-00297-00070392-00070779 VMware through Dell has seen incredible G4di_y6MoPu-00298-00070780-00071082 growth and and really is Della's I would G4di_y6MoPu-00299-00071083-00071307 say VMware's you know most important G4di_y6MoPu-00300-00071308-00071490 partner biggest partner because Dell G4di_y6MoPu-00301-00071491-00071826 wasn't didn't apologize for supergluing G4di_y6MoPu-00302-00071827-00072291 itself and VMware to it whereas EMC was G4di_y6MoPu-00303-00072292-00072456 always much more cautious trying to play G4di_y6MoPu-00304-00072457-00072642 the ecosystem game well they they were G4di_y6MoPu-00305-00072643-00072819 saving their seriousness with with G4di_y6MoPu-00306-00072820-00073068 VMware I mean VM were saved EMC some G4di_y6MoPu-00307-00073069-00073611 would say yeah III would say I mean if G4di_y6MoPu-00308-00073612-00073773 it weren't for if it weren't for the G4di_y6MoPu-00309-00073774-00073950 acquisition of VMware G4di_y6MoPu-00310-00073951-00074175 back for 650 million dollars in the G4di_y6MoPu-00311-00074176-00074442 early 2000s you know the EMC would have G4di_y6MoPu-00312-00074443-00074640 been a really uninteresting company over G4di_y6MoPu-00313-00074641-00074886 the over its last five to seven years so G4di_y6MoPu-00314-00074887-00075030 then but milk they make the milk that G4di_y6MoPu-00315-00075031-00075153 storage drive it then they had that G4di_y6MoPu-00316-00075154-00075360 uplift with vmware michael says hey I'll G4di_y6MoPu-00317-00075361-00075543 put this right in the family and this is G4di_y6MoPu-00318-00075544-00075729 what it is it's it's a it's a deal where G4di_y6MoPu-00319-00075730-00075990 it's in the Dell family portfolio and G4di_y6MoPu-00320-00075991-00076245 what Michaels doing is to your point and G4di_y6MoPu-00321-00076246-00076437 what you're saying is he's unlocking all G4di_y6MoPu-00322-00076438-00076695 this value for both dell and vmware and G4di_y6MoPu-00323-00076696-00076911 saying okay let's go to market and G4di_y6MoPu-00324-00076912-00077130 figure it out I got to tell you this job G4di_y6MoPu-00325-00077131-00077442 I mean as a founder the co-founder you G4di_y6MoPu-00326-00077443-00077604 know obviously we're a little small and G4di_y6MoPu-00327-00077605-00077787 Dell but you got to appreciate what G4di_y6MoPu-00328-00077788-00077937 Michael Dell is done here he went G4di_y6MoPu-00329-00077938-00078186 through hell taking his company private G4di_y6MoPu-00330-00078187-00078396 you know took on Carl Icahn I said G4di_y6MoPu-00331-00078397-00078600 yesterday who beats the the great icon G4di_y6MoPu-00332-00078601-00078774 well Michael Dell beat the great icon G4di_y6MoPu-00333-00078775-00079017 you know who out maneuvered Elliott I G4di_y6MoPu-00334-00079018-00079206 mean Elliott is a very influential G4di_y6MoPu-00335-00079207-00079626 player and in in the market Michael Dell G4di_y6MoPu-00336-00079627-00079851 said you know what I'm not going through G4di_y6MoPu-00337-00079852-00079899 that again G4di_y6MoPu-00338-00079900-00080157 I have control of Dell technologies G4di_y6MoPu-00339-00080158-00080406 have voting control over VMware I'm G4di_y6MoPu-00340-00080407-00080631 gonna do what's right for me for my G4di_y6MoPu-00341-00080632-00080895 company and my shareholders and look G4di_y6MoPu-00342-00080896-00081024 Michael Dell's making his shareholders G4di_y6MoPu-00343-00081025-00081297 money I mean who can complain I'll tell G4di_y6MoPu-00344-00081298-00081426 you I mean I tell you there's two G4di_y6MoPu-00345-00081427-00081627 playbooks I look at him Andy Jesse and G4di_y6MoPu-00346-00081628-00081879 Michael Dell I mean Michael Dell knows G4di_y6MoPu-00347-00081880-00082059 how to make money right he's always been G4di_y6MoPu-00348-00082060-00082278 a great moneymaker he's also a geek he G4di_y6MoPu-00349-00082279-00082436 loves to get down and dirty in the tech G4di_y6MoPu-00350-00082437-00082728 he's got to 49 inch Dale Montes leaves G4di_y6MoPu-00351-00082729-00083016 his company he gets the best gear all G4di_y6MoPu-00352-00083017-00083262 kidding aside you know he built a G4di_y6MoPu-00353-00083263-00083463 company went public took it private that G4di_y6MoPu-00354-00083464-00083628 was a reset I mean in his stage of his G4di_y6MoPu-00355-00083629-00083652 life G4di_y6MoPu-00356-00083653-00083898 it was his reset this is his swan song G4di_y6MoPu-00357-00083899-00084203 he's having a ball and he's financially G4di_y6MoPu-00358-00084204-00084609 engineered this success with the power G4di_y6MoPu-00359-00084610-00084834 that he built and it's a whole nother G4di_y6MoPu-00360-00084835-00085047 level whole nother chapter in his life G4di_y6MoPu-00361-00085048-00085302 and he's a money maker he knows how to G4di_y6MoPu-00362-00085303-00085521 make money you put you put Silverlake G4di_y6MoPu-00363-00085522-00085809 and Michael Dell together you put a G4di_y6MoPu-00364-00085810-00086036 cycle Dell with with these kinds of G4di_y6MoPu-00365-00086037-00086418 brains with his asset base as you say G4di_y6MoPu-00366-00086419-00086670 the cash flow of Dell with the asset of G4di_y6MoPu-00367-00086671-00086967 say a crown jewel like VMware that G4di_y6MoPu-00368-00086968-00087162 literally can pave the path to the G4di_y6MoPu-00369-00087163-00087429 future he could ride on the cloud back G4di_y6MoPu-00370-00087430-00087567 all day long he doesn't need a public G4di_y6MoPu-00371-00087568-00087996 cloud for anything yeah well so before G4di_y6MoPu-00372-00087997-00088122 we talk about that I just want to double G4di_y6MoPu-00373-00088123-00088305 down on what you said people just always G4di_y6MoPu-00374-00088306-00088478 say yeah Michael Dell you know he's a G4di_y6MoPu-00375-00088479-00088890 finance guy it's not true yes he's got a G4di_y6MoPu-00376-00088891-00089043 well he's got a finance team that is G4di_y6MoPu-00377-00089044-00089379 amazing and no doubt Michael is is G4di_y6MoPu-00378-00089380-00089574 instrumental there but he's a business G4di_y6MoPu-00379-00089575-00089766 genius I mean he really in business G4di_y6MoPu-00380-00089767-00090084 visionary yeah guy built his own pcs in G4di_y6MoPu-00381-00090085-00090264 college so he's obviously you said he's G4di_y6MoPu-00382-00090265-00090525 a geek technically per stream lis savvy G4di_y6MoPu-00383-00090526-00090663 savvy he's a visionary he's one of the G4di_y6MoPu-00384-00090664-00090960 one of the top 10 visionaries in the G4di_y6MoPu-00385-00090961-00091251 computer industry I would say history so G4di_y6MoPu-00386-00091252-00091541 now you're absolutely right you know G4di_y6MoPu-00387-00091542-00091770 well you say doesn't need a cloud III G4di_y6MoPu-00388-00091771-00091962 think my concern about this whole deal G4di_y6MoPu-00389-00091963-00092160 yesterday when I misunderstood that this G4di_y6MoPu-00390-00092161-00092352 was spin on spinning off and becoming G4di_y6MoPu-00391-00092353-00092616 untethered is what about the edge what G4di_y6MoPu-00392-00092617-00092853 about multi-cloud you know what's G4di_y6MoPu-00393-00092854-00093084 Adele's play there well Dells play is G4di_y6MoPu-00394-00093085-00093243 still VMware their strategy hasn't G4di_y6MoPu-00395-00093244-00093597 changed one bit I mean nothing changes G4di_y6MoPu-00396-00093598-00093933 only changes the direct ownership of G4di_y6MoPu-00397-00093934-00094182 VMware stock which unlocks value nothing G4di_y6MoPu-00398-00094183-00094398 else changes let me tell you to wrap my G4di_y6MoPu-00399-00094399-00094662 piece up here and we can wrap it up just G4di_y6MoPu-00400-00094663-00094866 in interface with Michael over the years G4di_y6MoPu-00401-00094867-00095115 and knowing him personally seen him up G4di_y6MoPu-00402-00095116-00095337 close here's how I think his mind works G4di_y6MoPu-00403-00095338-00095622 you mentioned he assembled pcs in G4di_y6MoPu-00404-00095623-00095952 college okay he built out he you know G4di_y6MoPu-00405-00095953-00096228 pioneered you know putting suppliers and G4di_y6MoPu-00406-00096229-00096504 supply chain getting prices lower Direct G4di_y6MoPu-00407-00096505-00096630 Mail he pioneered that G4di_y6MoPu-00408-00096631-00096887 direct-to-consumer all these successes G4di_y6MoPu-00409-00096888-00097179 this whole world that it is a and that's G4di_y6MoPu-00410-00097180-00097428 in there is like assembling a PC in his G4di_y6MoPu-00411-00097429-00097581 dorm room except he's got it with G4di_y6MoPu-00412-00097582-00097782 billions of dollars in a little VMware G4di_y6MoPu-00413-00097783-00098064 here processor I uh I mean he's G4di_y6MoPu-00414-00098065-00098241 essentially a financial geek at this G4di_y6MoPu-00415-00098242-00098427 point I mean though he likes to look in G4di_y6MoPu-00416-00098428-00098574 he loves pivotal he loves some of the G4di_y6MoPu-00417-00098575-00098757 things he's doing with with VMware he G4di_y6MoPu-00418-00098758-00098946 likes to look under the hover covers and G4di_y6MoPu-00419-00098947-00099189 see the engine but he's a financial G4di_y6MoPu-00420-00099190-00099450 assembler now so he's looking at this G4di_y6MoPu-00421-00099451-00099666 and you can see how it's all working and G4di_y6MoPu-00422-00099667-00100023 to your scoop here yeah I guess it looks G4di_y6MoPu-00423-00100024-00100152 like a spin-out if that's what people G4di_y6MoPu-00424-00100153-00100305 want to call it and the press jump on G4di_y6MoPu-00425-00100306-00100494 that but if it pieces it takes the hair G4di_y6MoPu-00426-00100495-00100674 off the deal that's basically makes the G4di_y6MoPu-00427-00100675-00100971 i/o move better he's got a you know good G4di_y6MoPu-00428-00100972-00101316 bus there 32 bits again and assembling a G4di_y6MoPu-00429-00101317-00101598 PC assembling companies and creating G4di_y6MoPu-00430-00101599-00101883 value he makes my loving it's a great G4di_y6MoPu-00431-00101884-00102039 analogy the piece parts are a little bit G4di_y6MoPu-00432-00102040-00102279 more valuable but no no I just want G4di_y6MoPu-00433-00102280-00102468 clarify what I said the other thing that G4di_y6MoPu-00434-00102469-00102624 changes is the income statement Dell G4di_y6MoPu-00435-00102625-00102852 will no longer recognize you know VMware G4di_y6MoPu-00436-00102853-00103191 revenue and and so that that changes and G4di_y6MoPu-00437-00103192-00103361 of course the balance sheet changes that G4di_y6MoPu-00438-00103363-00103607 that's a huge change now I guess the G4di_y6MoPu-00439-00103608-00103781 caveat is you know this in theory G4di_y6MoPu-00440-00103782-00104103 couldn't happen but it just makes so G4di_y6MoPu-00441-00104104-00104475 much sense I was kind of sniffing around G4di_y6MoPu-00442-00104476-00104646 it and my braking analysis when this G4di_y6MoPu-00443-00104647-00104955 thing first leaked and I said in that G4di_y6MoPu-00444-00104956-00105213 John it if the financial genius is Adele G4di_y6MoPu-00445-00105214-00105383 can figure out some way to monetize this G4di_y6MoPu-00446-00105384-00105659 well here it is it now is becoming much G4di_y6MoPu-00447-00105660-00105924 much more clear and I'm impressed G4di_y6MoPu-00448-00105925-00106146 well today he was assembling pcs in G4di_y6MoPu-00449-00106147-00106278 college now he's assembling companies G4di_y6MoPu-00450-00106279-00106559 what have we do in college don't even go G4di_y6MoPu-00451-00106560-00106602 there G4di_y6MoPu-00452-00106603-00106781 yeah that's great let's end it there G4di_y6MoPu-00453-00106782-00106968 right G4di_y6MoPu-00454-00106969-00107295 Dave great great scoop top story Michael G4di_y6MoPu-00455-00107296-00107622 Dell is not selling VMware it's G4di_y6MoPu-00456-00107623-00107834 transaction it's gonna have all that G4di_y6MoPu-00457-00107835-00108114 value its unlocking more Deltek value G4di_y6MoPu-00458-00108115-00108321 look for the shares we distributed to G4di_y6MoPu-00459-00108322-00108495 the dell technology shareholders and G4di_y6MoPu-00460-00108496-00108752 it's the same game supergluing together G4di_y6MoPu-00461-00108753-00108975 creating value for both Dave great scoop G4di_y6MoPu-00462-00108976-00109173 thanks for thanks for joining me thank G4di_y6MoPu-00463-00109174-00109296 you Jeff thanks for having me cue G4di_y6MoPu-00464-00109297-00109488 special report and analysis here in G4di_y6MoPu-00465-00109489-00109728 studio in California Dave Volante and G4di_y6MoPu-00466-00109729-00109941 Massachusetts I'm Sean for thanks for G4di_y6MoPu-00467-00109942-00110656 watching G4di_y6MoPu-00468-00110657-00110967 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00000-00000472-00001402 okay G4xQf3_0xmY-00001-00001403-00002655 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00002-00002656-00003169 we were okay we were all G4xQf3_0xmY-00003-00003170-00003463 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00004-00003464-00004560 couldn't stop us G4xQf3_0xmY-00005-00004561-00005175 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00006-00005176-00005551 drinking too young way too much fun out G4xQf3_0xmY-00007-00005552-00005695 in the sun G4xQf3_0xmY-00008-00005696-00006334 welcome to mobile legend G4xQf3_0xmY-00009-00006335-00006550 five seconds till the enemy reaches the G4xQf3_0xmY-00010-00006551-00006919 battlefield smash them G4xQf3_0xmY-00011-00006920-00007934 all troops deployed G4xQf3_0xmY-00012-00007936-00008823 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00013-00008824-00009394 first blood G4xQf3_0xmY-00014-00009395-00011053 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00015-00011054-00012367 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00016-00012368-00012503 [Music] 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initiate retreat G4xQf3_0xmY-00039-00043175-00043511 request G4xQf3_0xmY-00040-00043512-00044286 the enemy backup been slain G4xQf3_0xmY-00041-00044287-00046223 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00042-00046224-00047615 foreign G4xQf3_0xmY-00043-00047616-00049118 foreign G4xQf3_0xmY-00045-00052488-00055375 um G4xQf3_0xmY-00046-00055376-00055679 an ally has been slain G4xQf3_0xmY-00047-00055679-00056287 an ally has been slain G4xQf3_0xmY-00048-00056288-00057428 mistakes G4xQf3_0xmY-00049-00057429-00057975 [Applause] G4xQf3_0xmY-00050-00057976-00059694 you have slain an enemy G4xQf3_0xmY-00051-00059695-00060745 request to backup G4xQf3_0xmY-00052-00060746-00060911 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00053-00060912-00061298 foreign G4xQf3_0xmY-00054-00061299-00062271 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00055-00062272-00064023 the best G4xQf3_0xmY-00056-00064024-00064986 has been slain G4xQf3_0xmY-00057-00064987-00065382 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00058-00065383-00066119 launch attack G4xQf3_0xmY-00059-00066120-00067982 academy G4xQf3_0xmY-00060-00067983-00069167 double kill G4xQf3_0xmY-00061-00069168-00071038 so G4xQf3_0xmY-00062-00071039-00073159 initiate retreat G4xQf3_0xmY-00063-00073160-00074799 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00064-00074800-00076150 initiate retreats G4xQf3_0xmY-00065-00076151-00076972 retreats G4xQf3_0xmY-00066-00076973-00077367 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00067-00077368-00078156 initiate retreat launch attack G4xQf3_0xmY-00068-00078157-00080815 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00069-00080816-00082271 double kill G4xQf3_0xmY-00070-00082272-00082704 killing spree G4xQf3_0xmY-00071-00082705-00083094 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00072-00083095-00085487 attack the lord G4xQf3_0xmY-00073-00085488-00088159 attack G4xQf3_0xmY-00074-00088160-00089847 an ally has been slain good game G4xQf3_0xmY-00075-00089848-00091277 that was always G4xQf3_0xmY-00076-00091278-00091743 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00077-00091744-00092849 there G4xQf3_0xmY-00078-00092850-00093550 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00079-00093551-00094887 attack G4xQf3_0xmY-00080-00094888-00096062 mega kill G4xQf3_0xmY-00081-00096063-00096651 initiate retreat G4xQf3_0xmY-00082-00096652-00097012 [Applause] G4xQf3_0xmY-00083-00097013-00097791 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00084-00097792-00098238 request back up G4xQf3_0xmY-00085-00098239-00099155 ally has been flames G4xQf3_0xmY-00086-00099156-00100974 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00087-00100975-00103310 to G4xQf3_0xmY-00088-00103311-00103636 initiate retreat G4xQf3_0xmY-00089-00103638-00103951 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00090-00103952-00104385 ah G4xQf3_0xmY-00091-00104386-00105231 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00092-00105232-00105766 attack the lord G4xQf3_0xmY-00093-00105767-00106223 attack the lord G4xQf3_0xmY-00094-00106224-00106402 attack the lord G4xQf3_0xmY-00095-00106403-00107186 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00096-00107188-00107375 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00097-00107376-00108375 an ally has been G4xQf3_0xmY-00098-00108376-00109880 launch attacks G4xQf3_0xmY-00099-00109881-00111190 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00100-00111191-00112278 foreign G4xQf3_0xmY-00101-00112279-00113654 unstoppable G4xQf3_0xmY-00102-00113655-00113874 victory G4xQf3_0xmY-00103-00113875-00115110 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00104-00115111-00115248 uh G4xQf3_0xmY-00105-00115249-00115904 [Music] G4xQf3_0xmY-00106-00115905-00116209 [Music] G4ecq1vErTy-00000-00000718-00001097 so mark hmm marks a great gospel I've G4ecq1vErTy-00001-00001098-00001289 always really liked mark cuz you know I G4ecq1vErTy-00002-00001290-00001618 just somehow he makes sense to me Luke G4ecq1vErTy-00003-00001619-00001766 does as well John yeah I'm getting G4ecq1vErTy-00004-00001767-00002030 language on Matthew bit Jewish but yes G4ecq1vErTy-00005-00002030-00002234 alright but mark has been you know how G4ecq1vErTy-00006-00002235-00002384 it is some things just gel with you a G4ecq1vErTy-00007-00002385-00002546 bit better and that's because whatever G4ecq1vErTy-00008-00002547-00002738 you read mark really jealous of me and G4ecq1vErTy-00009-00002739-00002945 he's writing a gospel for Christians in G4ecq1vErTy-00010-00002946-00003182 Rome and he's writing his gospel based G4ecq1vErTy-00011-00003183-00003454 on the eyewitness accounts of Peter so G4ecq1vErTy-00012-00003455-00003749 it appears he's writing for these Roman G4ecq1vErTy-00013-00003750-00003931 Christians and this situation in life is G4ecq1vErTy-00014-00003932-00004186 hard they are Christians under pressure G4ecq1vErTy-00015-00004187-00004400 how comes that about they are following G4ecq1vErTy-00016-00004401-00004685 a crucified Messiah which means there G4ecq1vErTy-00017-00004686-00004997 are anathema to the Jewish people at the G4ecq1vErTy-00018-00004998-00005261 heart of the evil empire of their day in G4ecq1vErTy-00019-00005262-00005522 the very city of Rome itself and because G4ecq1vErTy-00020-00005523-00005765 they proclaim Christ as king and we've G4ecq1vErTy-00021-00005766-00005924 seen that's the essence of Jesus's G4ecq1vErTy-00022-00005925-00006167 message from mark 115 because they G4ecq1vErTy-00023-00006168-00006341 proclaim Christ as king they are G4ecq1vErTy-00024-00006342-00006650 anathema to the Romans as well let's get G4ecq1vErTy-00025-00006651-00007073 it from both sides now I reckon mark was G4ecq1vErTy-00026-00007073-00007253 written very early one of the first G4ecq1vErTy-00027-00007254-00007544 Gospels written about AD 65 and I G4ecq1vErTy-00028-00007545-00007703 believe that because the people who G4ecq1vErTy-00029-00007704-00007828 don't believe that other people who say G4ecq1vErTy-00030-00007829-00008119 mark could not have written mark 13 G4ecq1vErTy-00031-00008120-00008342 prophesying the fall of Jerusalem before G4ecq1vErTy-00032-00008343-00008639 AD 70 when Jerusalem fell I don't hold G4ecq1vErTy-00033-00008640-00008864 that at all perfectly well of them there G4ecq1vErTy-00034-00008865-00009049 are lots of examples of Biblical G4ecq1vErTy-00035-00009050-00009256 prophecy happening dunning as a valid G4ecq1vErTy-00036-00009257-00009410 comment at all there are lots of other G4ecq1vErTy-00037-00009411-00009556 reasons that it looks as if Mark is G4ecq1vErTy-00038-00009557-00009863 quite early maybe around 65 ad certainly G4ecq1vErTy-00039-00009864-00010094 by before 70 otherwise there would have G4ecq1vErTy-00040-00010095-00010259 been more detail in the account in mark G4ecq1vErTy-00041-00010260-00010756 13 anyway however it does mean that mark G4ecq1vErTy-00042-00010757-00010910 was written for people living through G4ecq1vErTy-00043-00010911-00011201 the lies reign of Nero who was Emperor G4ecq1vErTy-00044-00011202-00011537 from 54 to 68 AD were heading into the G4ecq1vErTy-00045-00011538-00011692 turbulent year of the four emperors G4ecq1vErTy-00046-00011693-00011896 after Nero when everything was in a G4ecq1vErTy-00047-00011897-00012170 turmoil in Rome that's 80 68 and they G4ecq1vErTy-00048-00012171-00012328 had only the station to look forward to G4ecq1vErTy-00049-00012329-00012635 from 8069 279 so they were in a bit of a G4ecq1vErTy-00050-00012636-00012983 bind they're under pressure things were G4ecq1vErTy-00051-00012984-00013154 not great for them they were in a G4ecq1vErTy-00052-00013155-00013326 situation where being a G4ecq1vErTy-00053-00013327-00013572 year outspoken follower of Jesus and G4ecq1vErTy-00054-00013572-00013812 Fisher of men was not gonna lead to a G4ecq1vErTy-00055-00013813-00014016 desperately easy life this is normal G4ecq1vErTy-00056-00014016-00014744 that sort of life is biblically normal G4ecq1vErTy-00057-00014744-00015191 very famously a man who has spent his G4ecq1vErTy-00058-00015193-00015488 life working in dangerous situations G4ecq1vErTy-00059-00015488-00015705 behind the lines as it were that the G4ecq1vErTy-00060-00015706-00015930 kingdom of God in countries where you G4ecq1vErTy-00061-00015931-00016086 know it is very dangerous to be a G4ecq1vErTy-00062-00016087-00016347 Christian man who's done that famously a G4ecq1vErTy-00063-00016347-00016470 couple of years back stood up in front G4ecq1vErTy-00064-00016471-00016764 of a big Christian gathering in this G4ecq1vErTy-00065-00016765-00016950 country and everybody's really excited G4ecq1vErTy-00066-00016951-00017133 because word had quietly gone round that G4ecq1vErTy-00067-00017134-00017268 the mystery speaker tonight was going to G4ecq1vErTy-00068-00017269-00017883 be this guy and he stood I never G4ecq1vErTy-00069-00017884-00018099 expecting a big full-scale preach and G4ecq1vErTy-00070-00018100-00018333 how inspiring noise and he famously G4ecq1vErTy-00071-00018334-00018486 stood up and he opened his Bible he read G4ecq1vErTy-00072-00018487-00018633 a passage of scripture where Jesus says G4ecq1vErTy-00073-00018634-00018918 in this world you will have tribulation G4ecq1vErTy-00074-00018919-00019166 be a good cheer I've overcome the world G4ecq1vErTy-00075-00019167-00019395 and he turned to the audience said look G4ecq1vErTy-00076-00019396-00020034 at you what is the matter with you this G4ecq1vErTy-00077-00020035-00020307 is not biblically normal G4ecq1vErTy-00078-00020308-00020859 and walked out oh wow a bit of a G4ecq1vErTy-00079-00020860-00021146 showstopper how'd you get through G4ecq1vErTy-00080-00021147-00021408 there's no willingness to live like that G4ecq1vErTy-00081-00021409-00021564 mark is written for people who are G4ecq1vErTy-00082-00021565-00021822 living like that where the temptation to G4ecq1vErTy-00083-00021823-00022023 keep quiet about the Word of God and the G4ecq1vErTy-00084-00022024-00022206 testimony of Jesus is naturally very G4ecq1vErTy-00085-00022207-00022614 strong that's the problem isn't it it's G4ecq1vErTy-00086-00022615-00022812 going to be hard for you if you if you G4ecq1vErTy-00087-00022813-00023040 do what Jesus has just been saying you G4ecq1vErTy-00088-00023041-00023241 know king of God's coming repent believe G4ecq1vErTy-00089-00023242-00023391 the gospel I'll make you fishers of men G4ecq1vErTy-00090-00023392-00023508 come follow me and I'll make you fishers G4ecq1vErTy-00091-00023509-00023778 of men it's going to lead a trouble yet G4ecq1vErTy-00092-00023779-00024246 get them there go for that the G4ecq1vErTy-00093-00024247-00024506 temptation to keep it is going to be G4ecq1vErTy-00094-00024507-00024768 pretty strong and we've seen developing G4ecq1vErTy-00095-00024769-00024930 in our London in our culture in our time G4ecq1vErTy-00096-00024931-00025119 you know the idea of what I call cool G4ecq1vErTy-00097-00025120-00025422 Christianity you know big strong G4ecq1vErTy-00098-00025423-00025593 apologetic movement that is great but G4ecq1vErTy-00099-00025594-00025797 why is it there why is why it not G4ecq1vErTy-00100-00025798-00026027 everybody but by all means but but why G4ecq1vErTy-00101-00026029-00026175 are so many people flocking to this G4ecq1vErTy-00102-00026176-00026307 because it makes it look intellectually G4ecq1vErTy-00103-00026308-00026547 respectable because it doesn't mean G4ecq1vErTy-00104-00026548-00026661 we're going to get laughed at for being G4ecq1vErTy-00105-00026662-00027077 numpties now biblically that is normal G4ecq1vErTy-00106-00027079-00027543 that is not the norm these guys are in G4ecq1vErTy-00107-00027544-00027660 the situation where there's tremendous G4ecq1vErTy-00108-00027661-00027890 temptation to keep quiet about the Word G4ecq1vErTy-00109-00027891-00028047 of God and the testimony of Jesus and G4ecq1vErTy-00110-00028048-00028269 moreover the temptation in those G4ecq1vErTy-00111-00028270-00028461 circumstances where it is hard heavy G4ecq1vErTy-00112-00028462-00028710 going the temptation to think what is G4ecq1vErTy-00113-00028711-00029114 the point must have been huge must have G4ecq1vErTy-00114-00029116-00029451 been huge during that period as your G4ecq1vErTy-00115-00029452-00029637 efforts at obeying Christ's command to G4ecq1vErTy-00116-00029638-00029850 follow him and be a fisherman I met with G4ecq1vErTy-00117-00029851-00030042 us call it a mixed response and we're G4ecq1vErTy-00118-00030043-00030336 questionably fruitful we don't like G4ecq1vErTy-00119-00030337-00030468 sharing our faith when there is an G4ecq1vErTy-00120-00030469-00031115 observable fruit do we yeah G4ecq1vErTy-00121-00031116-00031392 that issue of the apparent fruitlessness G4ecq1vErTy-00122-00031393-00031695 but actual fruit fullness of the task is G4ecq1vErTy-00123-00031695-00031927 the recurring theme of this chapter G4ecq1vErTy-00124-00031928-00032311 apparently fruitless actually fruitful G4ecq1vErTy-00125-00032312-00032661 but you don't see it because the work of G4ecq1vErTy-00126-00032662-00033062 the kingdom of god is so covert you do G4ecq1vErTy-00127-00033063-00033801 not know you do not know the temptation G4ecq1vErTy-00128-00033802-00034001 to despair of it in the life setting of G4ecq1vErTy-00129-00034002-00034202 the recipients of this letter would be G4ecq1vErTy-00130-00034203-00034505 immense and the point that's being made G4ecq1vErTy-00131-00034506-00034782 over against the situation is the quiet G4ecq1vErTy-00132-00034783-00035015 power of the word of God getting G4ecq1vErTy-00133-00035016-00035333 emphasized again and again and again so G4ecq1vErTy-00134-00035334-00035492 bill like my millen and you know it G4ecq1vErTy-00135-00035493-00035624 wasn't a melon wouldn't it speak quietly G4ecq1vErTy-00136-00035625-00035985 and carry a big stick I'm pretty sure it G4ecq1vErTy-00137-00035986-00036140 was thinking it while he was walking G4ecq1vErTy-00138-00036141-00036282 around Oxford as an old guy gone we were G4ecq1vErTy-00139-00036283-00036401 steered it's on his cane you know G4ecq1vErTy-00140-00036402-00036715 obviously it okay yeah this is big stick G4ecq1vErTy-00141-00036716-00037112 we quietly carry a big stick the gospel G4ecq1vErTy-00142-00037113-00037351 packs a big punch but its covert G4ecq1vErTy-00143-00037352-00037838 activity so here that all is in this G4ecq1vErTy-00144-00037839-00038085 context we saw the beginning of the G4ecq1vErTy-00145-00038086-00038345 section mark 313 was the appointing of G4ecq1vErTy-00146-00038346-00038501 the Twelve Apostles and there's a meet G4ecq1vErTy-00147-00038502-00038651 there to go out with the message there G4ecq1vErTy-00148-00038652-00038846 to lead that going out with this message G4ecq1vErTy-00149-00038847-00038985 of the kingdom of Jesus introduced in G4ecq1vErTy-00150-00038986-00039233 the first chapter or so right so there's G4ecq1vErTy-00151-00039234-00039383 the 12 appointed and immediately he's G4ecq1vErTy-00152-00039384-00039515 got opposition he's got opposition from G4ecq1vErTy-00153-00039516-00039677 his family from religious leaders and G4ecq1vErTy-00154-00039678-00039830 again from the family it's in the G4ecq1vErTy-00155-00039831-00039998 context of opposition we're being told G4ecq1vErTy-00156-00039999-00040398 these things then in the middle part of G4ecq1vErTy-00157-00040399-00040623 that section from 313 266 it's the G4ecq1vErTy-00158-00040624-00040854 middle bit chapters four and five G4ecq1vErTy-00159-00040855-00041177 basically you get for parables and for G4ecq1vErTy-00160-00041178-00041351 miracles and the for parables about the G4ecq1vErTy-00161-00041352-00041663 power the secret working power of the G4ecq1vErTy-00162-00041664-00041876 word of God if you share it the way G4ecq1vErTy-00163-00041877-00042170 Jesus has been saying and then there are G4ecq1vErTy-00164-00042171-00042336 these four miracles that show Jesus is G4ecq1vErTy-00165-00042337-00042467 actual power the power and his G4ecq1vErTy-00166-00042468-00042720 personality yeah the power of the word G4ecq1vErTy-00167-00042721-00042974 the power of the Lord and then closing G4ecq1vErTy-00168-00042975-00043170 off that section again is the return to G4ecq1vErTy-00169-00043171-00043320 the theme of the opposition and the hard G4ecq1vErTy-00170-00043321-00043725 going that it is G4ecq1vErTy-00171-00043726-00044089 so that's a couple of pages out of the G4ecq1vErTy-00172-00044090-00044314 way in no time look at that wish they'd G4ecq1vErTy-00173-00044315-00044548 gone if you faithful to Christ all you G4ecq1vErTy-00174-00044549-00044719 Roman Christians that this gospel is G4ecq1vErTy-00175-00044720-00044959 written for just expect the opposition G4ecq1vErTy-00176-00044960-00045121 your own master suffered often from the G4ecq1vErTy-00177-00045122-00045346 most hurtful of quarters and bear in G4ecq1vErTy-00178-00045347-00045465 mind that it's going to be hard going G4ecq1vErTy-00179-00045466-00045744 and don't stop because it's hard going G4ecq1vErTy-00180-00045745-00045973 get on because it's hard going because G4ecq1vErTy-00181-00045974-00046147 that's authentic and that's the way it G4ecq1vErTy-00182-00046148-00046381 would be in a world that's hostile to G4ecq1vErTy-00183-00046382-00046693 God and here in that context the big G4ecq1vErTy-00184-00046694-00046831 point Jesus has been making about the G4ecq1vErTy-00185-00046832-00047035 apparent fruitlessness but actual G4ecq1vErTy-00186-00047036-00047176 fruitfulness of the preaching of the G4ecq1vErTy-00187-00047177-00047362 word of God in the previous passage we G4ecq1vErTy-00188-00047363-00047647 looked at last time the for soils the G4ecq1vErTy-00189-00047648-00047914 four results three fruitless and passing G4ecq1vErTy-00190-00047915-00048496 away one fruitful and continuing they G4ecq1vErTy-00191-00048497-00048655 know this is set in a context of the G4ecq1vErTy-00192-00048656-00048886 preach word not apparently bearing fruit G4ecq1vErTy-00193-00048887-00049255 but rather being opposed so we're saying G4ecq1vErTy-00194-00049256-00049630 last time how confusing that can be four G4ecq1vErTy-00195-00049631-00050029 people the thing about the Bible is that G4ecq1vErTy-00196-00050030-00050230 it's on a mission it's got a message G4ecq1vErTy-00197-00050231-00050479 it's got something to say it's not a G4ecq1vErTy-00198-00050480-00050731 poem it's not a play it's not a novel G4ecq1vErTy-00199-00050732-00050871 that's there to help you get in touch G4ecq1vErTy-00200-00050872-00050992 with yourself your emotions your G4ecq1vErTy-00201-00050993-00051160 experiences get in touch with your past G4ecq1vErTy-00202-00051161-00051325 the Bible's there for a different G4ecq1vErTy-00203-00051326-00051465 purpose to help you get in touch with G4ecq1vErTy-00204-00051466-00051673 your God and here is God getting in G4ecq1vErTy-00205-00051674-00051937 touch with us saying I'm giving you G4ecq1vErTy-00206-00051938-00052164 something it looks as if it's going to G4ecq1vErTy-00207-00052165-00052426 be weak poor ineffective and useless do G4ecq1vErTy-00208-00052427-00052699 what I say with it just do what I say G4ecq1vErTy-00209-00052700-00053166 with it and actually see and experience G4ecq1vErTy-00210-00053167-00053500 the covert power of the word of God he G4ecq1vErTy-00211-00053501-00053857 also said to them marked for 21 a lamp G4ecq1vErTy-00212-00053858-00054061 and he also refers back the parable of G4ecq1vErTy-00213-00054062-00054211 the sower that's just happened you see a G4ecq1vErTy-00214-00054212-00054454 lamp isn't brought to be put under a G4ecq1vErTy-00215-00054454-00054649 basket or under a bed easy it's a bit G4ecq1vErTy-00216-00054650-00054790 monty python that isn't as a bit of a G4ecq1vErTy-00217-00054791-00055045 sense of humor going on yeah there's a G4ecq1vErTy-00218-00055046-00055498 yeah a bit of surreal humor come on use G4ecq1vErTy-00219-00055499-00055696 your novel all right you don't bring a G4ecq1vErTy-00220-00055697-00055885 lamp in to put it under a basket or G4ecq1vErTy-00221-00055886-00056122 under a bed isn't it to be placed on a G4ecq1vErTy-00222-00056123-00056544 lampstand nothing's hidden except to be G4ecq1vErTy-00223-00056545-00056611 revealed G4ecq1vErTy-00224-00056612-00056819 nothing concealed except to be brought G4ecq1vErTy-00225-00056820-00057617 to the light so what's going on do you G4ecq1vErTy-00226-00057618-00057761 has told that outdoor agricultural G4ecq1vErTy-00227-00057762-00057947 parable about the sower and the soil and G4ecq1vErTy-00228-00057948-00058094 Jesus comes straight indoors in the G4ecq1vErTy-00229-00058095-00058226 evening to tell this simple little G4ecq1vErTy-00230-00058227-00058631 parable of the lamp okay I'm not saying G4ecq1vErTy-00231-00058632-00058763 that chronologically that's the way it G4ecq1vErTy-00232-00058764-00058896 worked out in the Ministry of Jesus I'm G4ecq1vErTy-00233-00058897-00059121 saying that's the way mark has arranged G4ecq1vErTy-00234-00059122-00059247 it because he's working in a pattern G4ecq1vErTy-00235-00059248-00059432 he's working in a pattern built for oral G4ecq1vErTy-00236-00059433-00059693 learners to remember the teaching of G4ecq1vErTy-00237-00059694-00059934 Jesus on this issue of persevering in G4ecq1vErTy-00238-00059935-00060101 spreading the word of the kingdom when G4ecq1vErTy-00239-00060102-00060234 it's hard and does look like much is G4ecq1vErTy-00240-00060235-00060425 happening it's a really clever structure G4ecq1vErTy-00241-00060426-00060707 going on here for the sake of those oral G4ecq1vErTy-00242-00060708-00060899 learners I should have done it diagram G4ecq1vErTy-00243-00060900-00061087 perhaps maybe maybe I'll do a diagram G4ecq1vErTy-00244-00061088-00061301 you next time or something cuz we'll be G4ecq1vErTy-00245-00061302-00061511 in the next little bit but there are two G4ecq1vErTy-00246-00061512-00061659 short parables are not much more than G4ecq1vErTy-00247-00061660-00061838 short aphorisms that will proverb the G4ecq1vErTy-00248-00061839-00062060 proverbial sayings short wisdom sayings G4ecq1vErTy-00249-00062061-00062213 the lamp in the measure and they both G4ecq1vErTy-00250-00062214-00062432 get a little explanation both introduced G4ecq1vErTy-00251-00062433-00062603 by the word gah which is state this G4ecq1vErTy-00252-00062604-00062822 explains that there's a structure going G4ecq1vErTy-00253-00062823-00063041 on here a pattern a panel and those two G4ecq1vErTy-00254-00063042-00063230 units are linked together by by means of G4ecq1vErTy-00255-00063231-00063446 a concluding and an introductory G4ecq1vErTy-00256-00063447-00063621 exhortation if you've got ears listen G4ecq1vErTy-00257-00063622-00063842 listen listen listen which is in the G4ecq1vErTy-00258-00063843-00064118 invitation will you think about it what G4ecq1vErTy-00259-00064119-00064316 he's saying is a little bit covert it's G4ecq1vErTy-00260-00064317-00064451 a little bit hidden we'll see why in a G4ecq1vErTy-00261-00064452-00064844 minute good think about it think about G4ecq1vErTy-00262-00064845-00065450 it what's being said mark is addressing G4ecq1vErTy-00263-00065451-00065673 the issue of the secret power of the G4ecq1vErTy-00264-00065674-00066005 proclamation of God's Word and he's G4ecq1vErTy-00265-00066006-00066128 doing it to those well not just in the G4ecq1vErTy-00266-00066129-00066299 big crowd interested in Jesus but we G4ecq1vErTy-00267-00066300-00066453 were pressing on to know the Lord Jesus G4ecq1vErTy-00268-00066454-00066710 said in chapter 4 verse 11 the secret of G4ecq1vErTy-00269-00066711-00066885 the kingdom of God has been given to you G4ecq1vErTy-00270-00066886-00067046 but to the rest is told in parables G4ecq1vErTy-00271-00067047-00067337 those were pressing on the secret is G4ecq1vErTy-00272-00067338-00067497 revealed to those who press on to know G4ecq1vErTy-00273-00067498-00067698 the Lord it's not a secret that's G4ecq1vErTy-00274-00067699-00067841 theater to put a ring run and keep G4ecq1vErTy-00275-00067842-00068024 people out it's a secret that said to be G4ecq1vErTy-00276-00068025-00068198 pressed on and got closer to guarding G4ecq1vErTy-00277-00068199-00068334 trying to find the answer to what it's G4ecq1vErTy-00278-00068335-00068657 about it's an open secret like that say G4ecq1vErTy-00279-00068658-00068876 bit more in a minute building on that G4ecq1vErTy-00280-00068877-00069107 basic premise here is this parable of G4ecq1vErTy-00281-00069108-00069332 the lamp right and and and the lamp and G4ecq1vErTy-00282-00069333-00069517 the lampstand that's the important bit G4ecq1vErTy-00283-00069518-00069798 he says you would not have been given G4ecq1vErTy-00284-00069799-00069999 what you have been given in his roof G4ecq1vErTy-00285-00070000-00070248 no doubt to the gospel in order to hide G4ecq1vErTy-00286-00070249-00070800 it that's the big the big issue the lab G4ecq1vErTy-00287-00070801-00070923 the look nice is one of these things G4ecq1vErTy-00288-00070924-00071142 here can you see it well enough it's G4ecq1vErTy-00289-00071143-00071322 just a little Bowl thing with a spout G4ecq1vErTy-00290-00071323-00071559 and you put animal fat in there and G4ecq1vErTy-00291-00071560-00071742 there's a sort of a wick that lies in it G4ecq1vErTy-00292-00071743-00071976 just lies in it and you like this end G4ecq1vErTy-00293-00071977-00072425 and they gutter and they spit to me G4ecq1vErTy-00294-00072426-00072651 deducted dull light you're not a G4ecq1vErTy-00295-00072652-00072836 brilliant like this is what they had G4ecq1vErTy-00296-00072837-00073242 it's a dull light very common everyday G4ecq1vErTy-00297-00073243-00073437 object and when the oral learners in the G4ecq1vErTy-00298-00073438-00073695 churches of Rome slaves soldiers or G4ecq1vErTy-00299-00073696-00073962 patricians saw a lamp being brought in G4ecq1vErTy-00300-00073963-00074157 at dusk and placed on a stand they would G4ecq1vErTy-00301-00074158-00074388 receive a reminder to be faithful in G4ecq1vErTy-00302-00074389-00074619 propagating the Word of God the message G4ecq1vErTy-00303-00074620-00074814 of the kingdom regardless of how G4ecq1vErTy-00304-00074815-00075078 fruitful or dim or whatever else it G4ecq1vErTy-00305-00075079-00075393 seemed to be and they be warned that G4ecq1vErTy-00306-00075394-00075675 what had been revealed to them was G4ecq1vErTy-00307-00075676-00075894 designed to be revealed by them what's G4ecq1vErTy-00308-00075895-00076110 been revealed to you is meant to be G4ecq1vErTy-00309-00076111-00076562 revealed by you it's not making sense G4ecq1vErTy-00310-00076563-00076842 very point overlap the very purpose of G4ecq1vErTy-00311-00076843-00077037 raising this light source up on a stand G4ecq1vErTy-00312-00077038-00077229 is to shine as much light into the G4ecq1vErTy-00313-00077230-00077507 surrounding darkness as possible so G4ecq1vErTy-00314-00077508-00077664 calob if you've got a light right it G4ecq1vErTy-00315-00077665-00077814 torture something and you've got it G4ecq1vErTy-00316-00077815-00078000 lying on the floor how much does it like G4ecq1vErTy-00317-00078001-00078675 the room we go camping we got a head G4ecq1vErTy-00318-00078676-00078837 torch and put it on them on the on the G4ecq1vErTy-00319-00078838-00079152 carry map not the way we do it what do G4ecq1vErTy-00320-00079153-00079431 we do put on your head cuz his head G4ecq1vErTy-00321-00079432-00079560 touch shouldn't pick the head torch and G4ecq1vErTy-00322-00079561-00079710 picked an ordinary torch my mistake G4ecq1vErTy-00323-00079711-00079893 ordinary talk color back to the G4ecq1vErTy-00324-00079894-00080067 beginning so we got this Audrey torched G4ecq1vErTy-00325-00080068-00080220 in undulate on the floor or would you do G4ecq1vErTy-00326-00080221-00080721 with it in the tent you might hold it or G4ecq1vErTy-00327-00080722-00081070 you might on the G4ecq1vErTy-00328-00081071-00081399 which is there for the purpose exactly G4ecq1vErTy-00329-00081400-00081622 we wiggle camp and we don't take a G4ecq1vErTy-00330-00081623-00081844 palace we take a ridge tenn it'll G4ecq1vErTy-00331-00081845-00082063 two-man three-man 10 something we take a G4ecq1vErTy-00332-00082064-00082186 talk time we hang it on the jobby G4ecq1vErTy-00333-00082187-00082324 because then it gives light to the whole G4ecq1vErTy-00334-00082325-00082534 10 you take the same light source the G4ecq1vErTy-00335-00082535-00082669 same power and you raise it up and it G4ecq1vErTy-00336-00082670-00082897 distributes light here and the light G4ecq1vErTy-00337-00082898-00083253 shines in the darkness and it spreads am G4ecq1vErTy-00338-00083254-00083470 what he's saying is this you can take G4ecq1vErTy-00339-00083471-00083665 the simple clay lamp filled with oil in G4ecq1vErTy-00340-00083666-00083824 your hand and what you do with that look G4ecq1vErTy-00341-00083825-00084112 loss you put it on to a look near and G4ecq1vErTy-00342-00084113-00084268 when you do that it's rather weak and G4ecq1vErTy-00343-00084269-00084493 it's smoky and it's smutty light but G4ecq1vErTy-00344-00084494-00084673 just by exposing it higher up in the G4ecq1vErTy-00345-00084674-00084844 room it gives light to the whole place G4ecq1vErTy-00346-00084845-00085123 what you do not do with it is put it G4ecq1vErTy-00347-00085124-00085414 straight under a muddy on now I'll fill G4ecq1vErTy-00348-00085415-00085513 you in because you just need to know G4ecq1vErTy-00349-00085514-00085744 this and a mod Yan is a drawing mayor G4ecq1vErTy-00350-00085745-00085957 okay the various translations put it G4ecq1vErTy-00351-00085958-00086223 under a basket or whatever it was about G4ecq1vErTy-00352-00086224-00086605 16 sexstar EE or one sixth of the attic G4ecq1vErTy-00353-00086606-00087070 mid dimness about a peck which is nine G4ecq1vErTy-00354-00087071-00087373 litres so to draw measure of volume G4ecq1vErTy-00355-00087374-00087751 right it's a measuring thing a gauging G4ecq1vErTy-00356-00087752-00087994 bucket if you like the word is a latin G4ecq1vErTy-00357-00087995-00088171 ism incident he reflects the culture the G4ecq1vErTy-00358-00088172-00088336 people marks writing to his a Latin G4ecq1vErTy-00359-00088337-00088696 expression would you light a lamp go G4ecq1vErTy-00360-00088697-00088816 through all that bring it in and G4ecq1vErTy-00361-00088817-00089103 immediately cover it with a dry measure G4ecq1vErTy-00362-00089104-00089644 nonsense crazy it's not it's not quite G4ecq1vErTy-00363-00089645-00089821 as a knee as it may first appear Duncan G4ecq1vErTy-00364-00089822-00090073 Garrett has done a lot of work on the G4ecq1vErTy-00365-00090074-00090346 later slightly later Jewish laws and how G4ecq1vErTy-00366-00090347-00090532 it applies to New Testament stuff and G4ecq1vErTy-00367-00090533-00090730 whatever and he says that it was quite G4ecq1vErTy-00368-00090731-00091021 quite common at the end of the day on G4ecq1vErTy-00369-00091022-00091231 the Sabbath that his Friday night to G4ecq1vErTy-00370-00091232-00091420 take the Mahdi on and put that over the G4ecq1vErTy-00371-00091421-00091612 lamp so the flame would be extinguished G4ecq1vErTy-00372-00091613-00091867 by the bucket because then it wasn't G4ecq1vErTy-00373-00091868-00092109 work to put the light out on the Sabbath G4ecq1vErTy-00374-00092110-00092344 which sounds a bit odd to us so it's an G4ecq1vErTy-00375-00092345-00092503 idea they've got in their heads this G4ecq1vErTy-00376-00092504-00092842 idea of you know snuffing it rather than G4ecq1vErTy-00377-00092843-00092971 putting it out with your hands because G4ecq1vErTy-00378-00092972-00093121 that will be work on the Sabbath see G4ecq1vErTy-00379-00093122-00093337 what I mean they put the bucket is quite G4ecq1vErTy-00380-00093338-00093715 an own way of putting something out the G4ecq1vErTy-00381-00093716-00093988 ridiculous thing then is not using a dry G4ecq1vErTy-00382-00093989-00094231 measure of volume to snuff out the flame G4ecq1vErTy-00383-00094232-00094415 of lighting a lamp which would gutter G4ecq1vErTy-00384-00094416-00094606 and smoke and well stink a bit to be G4ecq1vErTy-00385-00094607-00094885 honest through that first nasty bit of G4ecq1vErTy-00386-00094886-00095078 lighting the lamp only to snuff it out G4ecq1vErTy-00387-00095079-00095413 very soon afterwards it's not about the G4ecq1vErTy-00388-00095414-00095554 ridiculousness of putting a bucket on a G4ecq1vErTy-00389-00095555-00095735 lamp it's a matter of the ridiculousness G4ecq1vErTy-00390-00095736-00095899 of going through the torture of light in G4ecq1vErTy-00391-00095900-00096010 the wretched thing in the first place G4ecq1vErTy-00392-00096011-00096260 I've been all that trouble and hardship G4ecq1vErTy-00393-00096261-00096410 and then going through the difficult bit G4ecq1vErTy-00394-00096411-00096526 and then instead of putting it on a G4ecq1vErTy-00395-00096527-00096671 stand and letting it shine and enjoying G4ecq1vErTy-00396-00096672-00097097 it it's just put the bucket on it so G4ecq1vErTy-00397-00097098-00097484 make sense I stuff I read for you guys I G4ecq1vErTy-00398-00097485-00097715 would that it but there you go no I've G4ecq1vErTy-00399-00097716-00097960 hit that it you had the hard bit he says G4ecq1vErTy-00400-00097961-00098101 now you're going to quit without G4ecq1vErTy-00401-00098102-00098248 enjoying and benefiting from the like G4ecq1vErTy-00402-00098249-00098419 where's the joy in impede becoming a G4ecq1vErTy-00403-00098420-00098536 Christian Ursa it will keep quite by G4ecq1vErTy-00404-00098537-00098926 then Oh what nonsense is that you become G4ecq1vErTy-00405-00098927-00099065 a Christian got light flowing through G4ecq1vErTy-00406-00099066-00099199 your soul you're picking up you put it G4ecq1vErTy-00407-00099200-00099478 on the stand guys look at this Jesus is G4ecq1vErTy-00408-00099479-00099799 brilliant and the good one hey what and G4ecq1vErTy-00409-00099800-00099919 your friends start looking into and G4ecq1vErTy-00410-00099920-00100129 there is no joy like leaving somebody to G4ecq1vErTy-00411-00100130-00100456 Christ you want to do something it's G4ecq1vErTy-00412-00100457-00100606 going to last that's going to last G4ecq1vErTy-00413-00100607-00100936 forever and seeing the joy and the light G4ecq1vErTy-00414-00100937-00101098 flowing of them and then seeing them G4ecq1vErTy-00415-00101099-00101315 started sharing their faith and teaching G4ecq1vErTy-00416-00101316-00101590 the Word of God to other people Oh bring G4ecq1vErTy-00417-00101591-00101910 it on it's amazing experience isn't it G4ecq1vErTy-00418-00101911-00102232 are you so stupid he says as to go like G4ecq1vErTy-00419-00102233-00102397 your lab go through all that trauma you G4ecq1vErTy-00420-00102398-00102493 know getting the light in the first G4ecq1vErTy-00421-00102494-00102658 place take it in snap it out what is the G4ecq1vErTy-00422-00102659-00102769 matter with you stick it on the G4ecq1vErTy-00423-00102770-00103183 lampstand alternatively says this is G4ecq1vErTy-00424-00103184-00103575 funny would you put it under a bed G4ecq1vErTy-00425-00103576-00103775 you're looking for an easy life by not G4ecq1vErTy-00426-00103776-00103936 making too much of the gospel you know G4ecq1vErTy-00427-00103938-00104083 you want a breast full quiet peaceful G4ecq1vErTy-00428-00104084-00104317 yeah well be the outcome of putting it G4ecq1vErTy-00429-00104318-00104707 under a bed see hiding the light is G4ecq1vErTy-00430-00104708-00104981 destructive isn't it hiding the light G4ecq1vErTy-00431-00104982-00105238 you end up with no rest for yourself why G4ecq1vErTy-00432-00105239-00105385 because you got no bed you've satified G4ecq1vErTy-00433-00105386-00105979 what it's gone what you try and do for a G4ecq1vErTy-00434-00105980-00106133 bit of peace and rest actually destroys G4ecq1vErTy-00435-00106133-00106499 the rest you're trying to get G4ecq1vErTy-00436-00106500-00106948 don't put it under a better juice is G4ecq1vErTy-00437-00106949-00107076 about to unveil what he's getting at G4ecq1vErTy-00438-00107077-00107304 here in the next little bit we're still G4ecq1vErTy-00439-00107305-00107583 on verses 21 to 25 he said the melab G4ecq1vErTy-00440-00107584-00107722 isn't brought three put under all that G4ecq1vErTy-00441-00107723-00107971 basket under a bed is it isn't it isn't G4ecq1vErTy-00442-00107972-00108141 it to be placed on a lampstand for G4ecq1vErTy-00443-00108142-00108351 nothing is hidden except to be revealed G4ecq1vErTy-00444-00108352-00108544 and nothing can see what except to be G4ecq1vErTy-00445-00108545-00108735 brought to light if anyone has ears eat G4ecq1vErTy-00446-00108736-00109050 better listen now that is the imperative G4ecq1vErTy-00447-00109051-00109415 implications in perfectly that is the G4ecq1vErTy-00448-00109416-00109778 imperative of what it's trying to say G4ecq1vErTy-00449-00109779-00110025 it's not a matter of he who has ears let G4ecq1vErTy-00450-00110026-00110235 him hear that's a passive okay that's G4ecq1vErTy-00451-00110236-00110460 not what's going on it's saying you got G4ecq1vErTy-00452-00110461-00110691 ears you better listen so it's a better G4ecq1vErTy-00453-00110692-00110920 translation all together hope you like G4ecq1vErTy-00454-00110921-00111348 it see the gospel of the kingdom has to G4ecq1vErTy-00455-00111349-00111510 be born a little bit under cover because G4ecq1vErTy-00456-00111511-00112045 of the circumstances there are Romans to G4ecq1vErTy-00457-00112046-00112413 worry about in Jesus's ministry there G4ecq1vErTy-00458-00112414-00112608 are the erosion collaborators with Rome G4ecq1vErTy-00459-00112609-00112771 to worry about there are the Pharisees G4ecq1vErTy-00460-00112772-00112923 who don't want to rock a political boat G4ecq1vErTy-00461-00112924-00113100 but very much want to decry the evils of G4ecq1vErTy-00462-00113101-00113313 collaborating with room and then there G4ecq1vErTy-00463-00113314-00113451 are those who wanted to stay in a first G4ecq1vErTy-00464-00113452-00113644 century Palestinian form of jihad G4ecq1vErTy-00465-00113645-00113833 against the Romans than any do that G4ecq1vErTy-00466-00113833-00114196 collaborates with them and each of those G4ecq1vErTy-00467-00114197-00114327 can take a little snippet out of here G4ecq1vErTy-00468-00114328-00114453 and there what users ministry and G4ecq1vErTy-00469-00114454-00114600 completely mess it up from ever being G4ecq1vErTy-00470-00114601-00114848 able to get on with what is there to do G4ecq1vErTy-00471-00114849-00115212 there has to be this slightly covert G4ecq1vErTy-00472-00115213-00115434 underground expression of God's truth G4ecq1vErTy-00473-00115435-00115512 the people have to go away and think G4ecq1vErTy-00474-00115513-00115766 about incomes of like conclusions about G4ecq1vErTy-00475-00115767-00115950 otherwise as ministers going to come a G4ecq1vErTy-00476-00115951-00116119 very sure during hot very quickly G4ecq1vErTy-00477-00116120-00116391 because each of those elements can G4ecq1vErTy-00478-00116392-00116610 fasten groups can fasten all the G4ecq1vErTy-00479-00116611-00116874 elements in what Jesus has got as his G4ecq1vErTy-00480-00116875-00117094 message the message of the kingdom of G4ecq1vErTy-00481-00117095-00117247 God and make their own something out of G4ecq1vErTy-00482-00117248-00117516 it that could have deeply unfortunate G4ecq1vErTy-00483-00117517-00117684 consequences for Jesus's message and G4ecq1vErTy-00484-00117685-00117924 mission so it's got to be slightly G4ecq1vErTy-00485-00117925-00118272 concealed it's got to be slightly G4ecq1vErTy-00486-00118273-00118565 circumspect Jesus's is circumspect and G4ecq1vErTy-00487-00118566-00118798 outspoken all at once and and the way he G4ecq1vErTy-00488-00118799-00118995 achieves that is is by this enigmatic G4ecq1vErTy-00489-00118996-00119366 partial proverbial parable based G4ecq1vErTy-00490-00119367-00119649 revelation of truth here's this thing G4ecq1vErTy-00491-00119650-00119796 you know go and look out what G4ecq1vErTy-00492-00119797-00120359 from it speaks in a slightly oblique G4ecq1vErTy-00493-00120360-00120642 slightly enigmatic way mark is very big G4ecq1vErTy-00494-00120643-00120896 on what's called the Messianic secret G4ecq1vErTy-00495-00120897-00121286 but but it's it's not a it's not an G4ecq1vErTy-00496-00121288-00121692 esoteric private elitist or or exclusive G4ecq1vErTy-00497-00121693-00121899 secret in the manner of so many of the G4ecq1vErTy-00498-00121900-00122019 ancient world's religions you know the G4ecq1vErTy-00499-00122020-00122277 secret mystery rights in the Greek world G4ecq1vErTy-00500-00122278-00122534 and stuffs none other the secret of the G4ecq1vErTy-00501-00122535-00122933 kingdom of God is meant to come out yep G4ecq1vErTy-00502-00122934-00123066 it'll come right out after after G4ecq1vErTy-00503-00123067-00123189 Christ's death and resurrection after G4ecq1vErTy-00504-00123190-00123386 the outpouring of Pentecost the gospel G4ecq1vErTy-00505-00123388-00123582 age 2 which marks Roman Christians as G4ecq1vErTy-00506-00123583-00123801 much as we here and now ourselves all G4ecq1vErTy-00507-00123802-00124191 together belong digg France who taught G4ecq1vErTy-00508-00124192-00124341 me a Bible College and you need it G4ecq1vErTy-00509-00124342-00124623 France and stuff he new testament G4ecq1vErTy-00510-00124624-00124851 scholar matthew specialist he's written G4ecq1vErTy-00511-00124852-00125058 a lot on mark as well a good comment on G4ecq1vErTy-00512-00125058-00125360 mark he put it nicely like this like the G4ecq1vErTy-00513-00125361-00125676 organizer of a treasure hunt he hides G4ecq1vErTy-00514-00125677-00126089 things in order that they may be found G4ecq1vErTy-00515-00126090-00126576 now if he did Oh openly in whatever then G4ecq1vErTy-00516-00126577-00126686 what he was actually saying wouldn't G4ecq1vErTy-00517-00126688-00126789 been found because people would have G4ecq1vErTy-00518-00126790-00127119 made their own thing of it but like the G4ecq1vErTy-00519-00127120-00127302 organizer of a treasure hunt he hides G4ecq1vErTy-00520-00127303-00127455 things you can actually think it through G4ecq1vErTy-00521-00127456-00128210 of it and find the natural sinful human G4ecq1vErTy-00522-00128211-00128520 tendency is to retain secret knowledge G4ecq1vErTy-00523-00128521-00128841 for oneself but Jesus expects his people G4ecq1vErTy-00524-00128842-00129051 under pressure for the kingdom of God to G4ecq1vErTy-00525-00129052-00129246 see that their purpose is not to keep it G4ecq1vErTy-00526-00129247-00129464 to themselves but to just the opposite G4ecq1vErTy-00527-00129465-00130111 it's not making sense G4ecq1vErTy-00528-00130113-00130397 and doing that it's going to bring G4ecq1vErTy-00529-00130398-00130769 blessing but failing to propagate the G4ecq1vErTy-00530-00130770-00130964 biblical understanding you've received G4ecq1vErTy-00531-00130965-00131177 is going to result in even what you have G4ecq1vErTy-00532-00131178-00131594 been given being taken from you now G4ecq1vErTy-00533-00131595-00131924 that's the other side of the coin if G4ecq1vErTy-00534-00131925-00132212 you've got it you don't share it you're G4ecq1vErTy-00535-00132213-00132608 going to lose it so how am I going to G4ecq1vErTy-00536-00132609-00132781 illustrate that let's go back to G4ecq1vErTy-00537-00132782-00133489 nineteen ninety-four in gravesend where G4ecq1vErTy-00538-00133490-00133730 we are asked to take over we're offered G4ecq1vErTy-00539-00133731-00133880 to take over I don't know somehow we get G4ecq1vErTy-00540-00133881-00134174 to take over a derelict Chapel building G4ecq1vErTy-00541-00134175-00134489 yeah it's a derrick building is just on G4ecq1vErTy-00542-00134490-00134717 the verge of being sold to the Muslims G4ecq1vErTy-00543-00134718-00134993 for a mosque an inner urban multi-ethnic G4ecq1vErTy-00544-00134994-00135386 area it's come to its knees it's been a G4ecq1vErTy-00545-00135387-00135752 very big thrive in Chapel it's had very G4ecq1vErTy-00546-00135753-00135974 good connections it's had very good G4ecq1vErTy-00547-00135975-00136220 ministry in the past and what's happened G4ecq1vErTy-00548-00136221-00136376 to that place is that they've come to G4ecq1vErTy-00549-00136377-00136745 see bringing people to Christ as God's G4ecq1vErTy-00550-00136746-00137102 work now I work something to do with us G4ecq1vErTy-00551-00137103-00137404 God wants to say people he is sovereign G4ecq1vErTy-00552-00137405-00137738 God was for its in its impertinent of us G4ecq1vErTy-00553-00137739-00138008 to try and tell people about him because G4ecq1vErTy-00554-00138009-00138221 that's his work it's impertinent of us G4ecq1vErTy-00555-00138222-00138371 it's a denial of his sovereignty under G4ecq1vErTy-00556-00138372-00138608 this is not my view yeah this is not G4ecq1vErTy-00557-00138609-00138803 right okay he's rubbish but this is the G4ecq1vErTy-00558-00138804-00139025 view that people can come to it is wrong G4ecq1vErTy-00559-00139026-00139166 of us to try and win people to Christ G4ecq1vErTy-00560-00139167-00139391 because that is presumptuous God must do G4ecq1vErTy-00561-00139392-00139628 all that and you get this sort of pseudo G4ecq1vErTy-00562-00139629-00139874 high view of the sovereignty of god that G4ecq1vErTy-00563-00139875-00140063 means we do not do what God has G4ecq1vErTy-00564-00140064-00140450 sovereignly ordained that we should that G4ecq1vErTy-00565-00140451-00140983 make sense G4ecq1vErTy-00566-00140984-00141343 what happens that shirt though our G4ecq1vErTy-00567-00141344-00141706 Chapel in gravesend case in point zoa G4ecq1vErTy-00568-00141707-00141946 was the place that lock fled to out of G4ecq1vErTy-00569-00141947-00142147 Sodom you can see they had exclusivist G4ecq1vErTy-00570-00142148-00142606 tendencies from the beginning right has G4ecq1vErTy-00571-00142607-00142723 a privilege to be those privileged to G4ecq1vErTy-00572-00142724-00143160 put hope church in that building G4ecq1vErTy-00573-00143161-00143671 different direction of travel lane that G4ecq1vErTy-00574-00143672-00143812 chapel by the time we got hold of it the G4ecq1vErTy-00575-00143813-00144085 building it was full of water it was G4ecq1vErTy-00576-00144086-00144307 running with streams of rivets coming G4ecq1vErTy-00577-00144308-00144475 down the wall every time it rained it G4ecq1vErTy-00578-00144476-00144844 had dry rot fruiting bodies growing out G4ecq1vErTy-00579-00144845-00145063 the wall as big as your head the wood G4ecq1vErTy-00580-00145064-00145503 gone a bit it was a it was a landmark a G4ecq1vErTy-00581-00145504-00145744 local landmark pointing to them to the G4ecq1vErTy-00582-00145745-00145965 ineffectiveness of Christianity right G4ecq1vErTy-00583-00145966-00146229 but it wasn't because the Christianity G4ecq1vErTy-00584-00146230-00146623 had gone a long time before if you do G4ecq1vErTy-00585-00146624-00146812 not propagate the biblical understanding G4ecq1vErTy-00586-00146813-00147025 that you receive there comes a point G4ecq1vErTy-00587-00147026-00147450 where God says turning the light out and G4ecq1vErTy-00588-00147451-00147860 locking the door G4ecq1vErTy-00589-00147861-00148169 we dare not retain the knowledge of the G4ecq1vErTy-00590-00148170-00148391 gospel keeping it to ourselves at the G4ecq1vErTy-00591-00148392-00148607 expense of lost people around us because G4ecq1vErTy-00592-00148608-00148790 if we do so God will snuff out the light G4ecq1vErTy-00593-00148791-00148903 you will need to put it under a basket G4ecq1vErTy-00594-00148904-00149312 yourself you'll be gone the church and G4ecq1vErTy-00595-00149313-00149465 the people of God has spread the light G4ecq1vErTy-00596-00149466-00149690 we must never become discouraged from G4ecq1vErTy-00597-00149691-00149876 doing that because of the hiddenness of G4ecq1vErTy-00598-00149877-00150295 the work of God of a word in the world G4ecq1vErTy-00599-00150296-00150628 we persevere with it steadily knowing G4ecq1vErTy-00600-00150629-00150922 what God is doing with what we've done G4ecq1vErTy-00601-00150923-00151169 but we do not keep to ourselves what G4ecq1vErTy-00602-00151170-00151504 we've received because of the parable of G4ecq1vErTy-00603-00151505-00151937 the lamp if we do so we will lose what G4ecq1vErTy-00604-00151938-00152590 we've got so Jesus is about to move the G4ecq1vErTy-00605-00152591-00152738 discussion about the power of the word G4ecq1vErTy-00606-00152739-00152927 working secretly forward he's going to G4ecq1vErTy-00607-00152928-00153119 do it by deploying the aphorism of the G4ecq1vErTy-00608-00153120-00153712 seed that grows secretly but for today G4ecq1vErTy-00609-00153713-00154082 the time we've got today he's the G4ecq1vErTy-00610-00154083-00154556 parable of the lamp the measuring you G4ecq1vErTy-00611-00154557-00154763 use will be the measure you receive and G4ecq1vErTy-00612-00154764-00155213 more be added to you whoever has will be G4ecq1vErTy-00613-00155214-00155357 given more whoever does not have even G4ecq1vErTy-00614-00155358-00155852 what he has will be taken from him the G4ecq1vErTy-00615-00155853-00156091 lamp has been given a lamp has been the G4ecq1vErTy-00616-00156092-00156452 difficult stuff is done put it on the G4ecq1vErTy-00617-00156453-00156936 stand let it shine G4ecq1vErTy-00618-00156937-00157113 and there are times when that is G4ecq1vErTy-00619-00157114-00157308 challenging there are times when that is G4ecq1vErTy-00620-00157309-00157464 difficult there are time hun is G4ecq1vErTy-00621-00157465-00157677 difficult to persevere believing that G4ecq1vErTy-00622-00157678-00157971 God will do something with what we let G4ecq1vErTy-00623-00157972-00158475 shine but he's shown into our hearts the G4ecq1vErTy-00624-00158476-00158646 light for the glory of God in the face G4ecq1vErTy-00625-00158647-00159021 of Jesus Christ and its purpose in doing G4ecq1vErTy-00626-00159022-00159333 that is not that we should extinguish G4ecq1vErTy-00627-00159334-00159609 that to have a quieter easier less G4ecq1vErTy-00628-00159610-00159987 troubled life but that we should make G4ecq1vErTy-00629-00159988-00160623 that known to those who r and s G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00000-00000006-00000229 Shalom everyone praise honor and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00001-00000231-00000461 esteemed 2rb Ahura through his son G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00002-00000462-00000800 yahushua messiah in case you want to get G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00003-00000801-00001040 in touch with us here are our contact G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00004-00001041-00001328 details you can also support us in a G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00005-00001329-00001639 variety of ways and I hope you will find G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00006-00001641-00001967 this video useful I feel this letter G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00007-00001968-00002315 provides us with a great opportunity to G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00008-00002316-00002638 address some misconceptions in G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00009-00002639-00002906 Christianity it will be very easy to G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00010-00002907-00003293 follow along and I will be replying to G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00011-00003294-00003565 these points step-by-step as they come G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00012-00003567-00003815 up there are thoughts in this letter I G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00013-00003815-00004081 agree with although I think I approach G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00014-00004082-00004295 it from a different perspective so the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00015-00004296-00004619 reason for my agreement is not the same G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00016-00004620-00004868 as the author is nonetheless we are in G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00017-00004869-00005183 agreement starts out if the gospel has G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00018-00005184-00005386 always been misrepresented and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00019-00005387-00005627 misunderstood I could not agree with G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00020-00005628-00006004 this any more up to this very day the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00021-00006005-00006293 good news basura has been grossly G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00022-00006294-00006695 misrepresented and misunderstood and the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00023-00006695-00006884 main culprit in this I think is G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00024-00006884-00007163 Christianity they seem to be the ones G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00025-00007164-00007456 who forget about yahushua ha'mashiach G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00026-00007458-00007967 words in Matityahu or Matthew 7:13 enter G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00027-00007968-00008207 all of you in at the strait gate for G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00028-00008208-00008389 wide is the gate and broad is the way G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00029-00008390-00008723 that leads to destruction and many there G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00030-00008724-00009077 be which go in thereat Christianity is a G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00031-00009078-00009360 major religion according to encyclopædia G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00032-00009361-00009644 britannica stemming from the live G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00033-00009645-00009938 teachings and death of Jesus of Nazareth G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00034-00009939-00010241 it has become the largest of the world's G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00035-00010242-00010469 religions and geographically the most G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00036-00010470-00010888 widely diffused of all faiths it has a G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00037-00010889-00011087 constituency of more than two billion G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00038-00011088-00011348 believers its largest groups are Roman G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00039-00011349-00011563 Catholic Eastern Orthodox and Protestant G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00040-00011564-00011888 churches think about this for a second G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00041-00011889-00012189 if Christianity was the way to salvation G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00042-00012190-00012581 it has 2 billion followers almost third G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00043-00012582-00012805 of the population of the whole earth how G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00044-00012806-00013058 would the be true enter all of you in at G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00045-00013059-00013286 the strait gate for wide is the gate and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00046-00013287-00013366 brothers G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00047-00013368-00013580 way that leads to destruction and many G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00048-00013581-00013864 there be which go in thereat how about G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00049-00013865-00014161 that two billion people because Strait G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00050-00014162-00014356 is the gate and narrow is the way which G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00051-00014357-00014627 leads unto life and few there be that G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00052-00014628-00014725 find it G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00053-00014726-00014941 how are those people fit this G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00054-00014943-00015269 description straight gate narrow way few G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00055-00015269-00015391 there be that find it G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00056-00015393-00015700 Christianity cannot be the way not G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00057-00015701-00015899 because I don't like you I hate them G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00058-00015900-00016169 people because the Bible the scriptures G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00059-00016169-00016472 says so and we see the reason for it in G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00060-00016473-00016811 verse 15 beware of false prophets which G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00061-00016812-00017044 come to you in sheep's clothing but G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00062-00017045-00017324 inwardly they are ravening wolves G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00063-00017325-00017614 this is Christianity the religion G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00064-00017615-00017872 stemming from the Roman Catholic Church G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00065-00017873-00018227 the great of Babylon and all its G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00066-00018228-00018503 offspring the Protestant churches and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00067-00018504-00018677 here's a list for you G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00068-00018678-00018949 Anglican Baptists Calvinists G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00069-00018950-00019275 Congregationalism Evangelical Lutheran G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00070-00019276-00019649 oriental Presbyterian Reformed blah blah G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00071-00019650-00019909 blah and everyone else who agrees with G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00072-00019910-00020168 the teaching of Christianity that the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00073-00020169-00020425 Torah the law of Moshe the law of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00074-00020426-00020786 yahuwah RB hua the father is done away G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00075-00020787-00021043 with and that would include Jehovah's G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00076-00021044-00021406 Witnesses and seventh-day Adventists it G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00077-00021407-00021646 is not to say that these people are bad G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00078-00021647-00021943 or stupid or don't understand the fact G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00079-00021944-00022165 of the matter is that Strait is the gate G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00080-00022166-00022447 narrow the way and few there be they G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00081-00022448-00022750 find it two billion people cannot be G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00082-00022751-00023108 there therefore yes I agree the basura G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00083-00023109-00023303 the good news has always been G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00084-00023304-00023647 misrepresented and misunderstood one of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00085-00023648-00023942 the tools in the adversary's hand is a G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00086-00023943-00024289 religion called Christianity and a G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00087-00024290-00024700 character Jesus Christ He is God he's G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00088-00024701-00025114 his own father he sends himself dies for G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00089-00025115-00025346 humanity so then they can do whatever G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00090-00025347-00025567 they want they can make up their own G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00091-00025568-00025984 rules their own way to salvation he is G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00092-00025985-00026302 the one abolishing the law of Moshe the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00093-00026303-00026576 law of yahuwah he's the one who loves G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00094-00026577-00026752 everybody and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00095-00026754-00027005 accept them the way they are the real G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00096-00027006-00027287 Messiah The Anointed One never said G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00097-00027288-00027458 anything about abolishing the law G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00098-00027458-00027782 actually in Matityahu fifth chapter 17 G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00099-00027783-00028067 verse he says this think not that I come G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00100-00028068-00028280 to destroy the law of the prophets I'm G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00101-00028281-00028595 not come to destroy but to fulfill yet G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00102-00028595-00028895 in this letter we can read if it was not G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00103-00028895-00029177 for Paul or shahu we would all be G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00104-00029177-00029486 keeping the law of Moshe today how about G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00105-00029487-00029764 this how about a contradiction so whom G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00106-00029766-00030074 shall believe Yahoo shahe mushiya the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00107-00030075-00030341 anointed one or this letter that has a G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00108-00030342-00030629 problem for us to be keeping the law of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00109-00030630-00031007 Moshe today he says think not that I am G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00110-00031008-00031175 come to destroy the law or the prophets G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00111-00031176-00031508 I am not come to destroy but to fulfill G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00112-00031508-00031805 if Ophir means that we do not need to G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00113-00031806-00031967 follow that anymore that would be G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00114-00031968-00032435 destroying it it's G 2647 kapalua G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00115-00032436-00032732 destroyed to dissolve this unite what G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00116-00032733-00032920 has been joined together to destroy G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00117-00032921-00033350 demolish overthrow render vain deprive G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00118-00033351-00033646 of success bring to naught to subvert G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00119-00033647-00034024 overthrow to deprive of force and now G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00120-00034025-00034373 abrogate discord in the scriptures it G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00121-00034374-00034679 means destroy throw down large guests G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00122-00034680-00035066 come to nought overthrow dissolve so if G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00123-00035067-00035249 we don't need to keep the law of Moshe G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00124-00035250-00035681 today will not be dissolved brought to G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00125-00035682-00036083 naught subverted overthrown deprived of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00126-00036084-00036479 success demolished I think we all need G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00127-00036480-00036683 to think about this there's another G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00128-00036684-00036878 thought the church would not have G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00129-00036879-00037175 survived if it was not for shows heroic G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00130-00037176-00037484 intervention at crucial times Shahu was G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00131-00037485-00037820 not fighting against the law of Moshe he G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00132-00037821-00038029 could not have been doing that the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00133-00038030-00038285 misunderstanding and misrepresentation G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00134-00038286-00038579 is on those people who fight against the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00135-00038580-00038891 law of Moshe or the law of yahuwah today G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00136-00038892-00039290 and at any point in history Kepha or G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00137-00039291-00039629 Peter warned us about this second G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00138-00039630-00039986 episode third chapter 15 verse and the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00139-00039987-00040148 count that belongs G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00140-00040149-00040427 during of our sovereign is salvation G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00141-00040428-00040751 even as our beloved brother Rahul G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00142-00040752-00041057 also according to the wisdom given unto G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00143-00041058-00041374 Him has written unto you this is talking G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00144-00041375-00041783 about o or Paul Ryan his epistles to the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00145-00041784-00042089 ecclesia all over the world as also in G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00146-00042090-00042415 all his epistles speaking in them of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00147-00042416-00042677 these things in which are some things G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00148-00042678-00043087 hard to be understood which they that G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00149-00043088-00043508 are unlearned and unstable shift as they G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00150-00043509-00043777 do also the other scriptures unto their G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00151-00043778-00044068 own destruction if it was easy to G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00152-00044069-00044351 understand kafir wouldn't have written G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00153-00044352-00044648 this think now of Christianity they G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00154-00044649-00045049 think they are the ones representing and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00155-00045050-00045343 understanding this message of showels G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00156-00045344-00045737 two billion people understand this that G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00157-00045738-00045940 would be easy to understand but what G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00158-00045941-00046289 keva says it is hard to understand and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00159-00046290-00046777 they unlearned and unstable shift the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00160-00046778-00047137 message this message is Christianity G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00161-00047138-00047485 unlearned that is a person ignorant or G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00162-00047486-00047827 unlearn literally this person is the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00163-00047828-00048052 opposite of what the tama deem or the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00164-00048053-00048362 apostles were those people learned the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00165-00048363-00048649 truth from yahushua hamashiach they G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00166-00048650-00048857 didn't learn it in school or in a G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00167-00048858-00049151 education system those who did learn it G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00168-00049152-00049418 in school labor the fools they were G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00169-00049419-00049733 pharisees sadducees scribes G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00170-00049734-00050062 as they are today today they would be G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00171-00050063-00050521 called theologians scholars doctors of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00172-00050522-00050786 philosophy and theology these are the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00173-00050787-00051040 people who don't understand they are the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00174-00051041-00051344 ones on learner then unstable who shift G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00175-00051345-00051629 the message as they do to the other G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00176-00051629-00051940 scriptures and this is how christianity G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00177-00051941-00052199 came about this is why people do not G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00178-00052200-00052480 keep the law today this is why they talk G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00179-00052482-00052721 about the Torah it's something G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00180-00052722-00053063 burdensome or a curse Torah has never G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00181-00053064-00053276 been a problem it could not have been G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00182-00053277-00053454 that was the one G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00183-00053454-00053717 walking amongst man yahoo shahe mushiya G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00184-00053719-00053946 the word became flesh G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00185-00053947-00054285 that word is Torah what else could it be G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00186-00054286-00054591 from the beginning with the father that G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00187-00054591-00054905 is his word Torah that's the law all G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00188-00054907-00055215 people like to hate today at least most G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00189-00055216-00055503 of them show could not have been warring G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00190-00055504-00055737 against this he wasn't fighting against G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00191-00055738-00056056 Torah he was fighting as the same things G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00192-00056057-00056351 yahushua hamashiach was fighting against G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00193-00056352-00056762 and that is the tradition of man G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00194-00056763-00057090 christianity for example Pharisees asked G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00195-00057091-00057336 him why walk not your disciples G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00196-00057337-00057554 according to the tradition of the elders G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00197-00057554-00057885 but eat bread with unwashed hands they G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00198-00057886-00058160 asked him about tradition not Torah G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00199-00058161-00058355 tradition of the elders G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00200-00058357-00058769 this is paradoxes giving up giving over G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00201-00058770-00059061 the act of giving up to surrender of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00202-00059062-00059349 cities giving over which is done by word G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00203-00059350-00059711 of mouth or in writing ie tradition G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00204-00059712-00060054 tradition by instruction narrative G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00205-00060054-00060336 precept we do not even need to make up G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00206-00060337-00060534 anything this is written here of the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00207-00060535-00060816 body of precepts ritual which in the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00208-00060816-00061119 opinion of the later Jews were orally G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00209-00061120-00061326 delivered by Moshe and orally G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00210-00061327-00061655 transmitted in unbroken succession to G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00211-00061657-00061919 subsequent generations which precepts G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00212-00061920-00062226 both illustrating and expanding the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00213-00062227-00062496 written law as they did were to be G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00214-00062497-00062816 obeyed with eco reverence this is not G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00215-00062817-00063162 Torah this is what they added to Mishnah G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00216-00063163-00063476 Talmud today this would be called G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00217-00063477-00063753 Judaism that is the question why what G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00218-00063754-00063944 not your disciples according to the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00219-00063945-00064209 tradition of the elders the Talmud the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00220-00064210-00064536 Mishnah our thoughts pay close attention G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00221-00064537-00064863 to yahushua hamashiach answer he says G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00222-00064864-00065178 well his Yeshayahu prophesied of you G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00223-00065179-00065574 hypocrites as it is written this people G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00224-00065575-00065787 honors me with their lips but their G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00225-00065788-00066081 heart is far from me honoring where G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00226-00066082-00066378 their lips is saying they love him they G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00227-00066379-00066813 love his word they love his Messiah G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00228-00066814-00067080 their heart is far from him because they G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00229-00067081-00067422 do not what he delights in and that is G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00230-00067423-00067806 his word his Torah his firstborn you do G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00231-00067807-00067974 not need to believe me because this is G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00232-00067975-00068235 written nevertheless in vain do they G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00233-00068236-00068632 worship me in vain do they worship me G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00234-00068633-00069147 vain is Matane fruitless vain it is G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00235-00069148-00069387 fruitless vain to do what people think G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00236-00069388-00069638 or people command or their traditions G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00237-00069639-00069918 that is Christianity amongst other G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00238-00069919-00070215 things in vain do they worship Me G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00239-00070216-00070404 teaching for doctrines the commandments G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00240-00070405-00070818 of man not Torah that's never been the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00241-00070819-00071049 commandment of man if you want to look G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00242-00071050-00071381 at Leviticus 23 speak unto the children G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00243-00071382-00071634 of Israel and say unto them concerning G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00244-00071635-00071949 the Feast of yahuwah which all of you G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00245-00071950-00072138 shall proclaim to be set apart G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00246-00072139-00072443 convocation even these are my feasts G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00247-00072444-00072725 these are not Jewish feasts these are G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00248-00072726-00073063 not Moses law these are who was feast G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00249-00073064-00073451 verse 3 it is the shaba of yahuwah in G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00250-00073452-00073775 all your dwellings it is not Moses or G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00251-00073776-00074115 the Jews these are the feasts of yahuwah G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00252-00074116-00074340 or the lord even set up our convocation G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00253-00074341-00074594 with all of you shall proclaim in their G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00254-00074595-00074829 seasons this is throughout this chapter G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00255-00074830-00075012 just read it for yourself and you G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00256-00075013-00075332 understand these are the father's feast G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00257-00075333-00075725 is his we can talk about the food laws G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00258-00075726-00075993 or as people like to call them the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00259-00075994-00076362 dietary law this is ye Cara Leviticus 11 G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00260-00076363-00076647 for I am you who are your Elohim all of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00261-00076648-00076890 you share therefore set yourselves apart G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00262-00076891-00077207 all of you shall be set apart for I am G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00263-00077208-00077430 set apart neither shall all of you G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00264-00077431-00077663 defile yourself in any manner of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00265-00077664-00077894 creeping things there creeps upon G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00266-00077895-00078303 Haaretz or the earth for I am yahuwah or G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00267-00078304-00078549 the lord that brings you up out of the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00268-00078550-00078837 land of Mizraim to be your Elohim all of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00269-00078838-00079059 you shall therefore be set apart for I G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00270-00079060-00079392 am set apart 47 to make a difference G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00271-00079393-00079563 between the unclean and the clean G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00272-00079564-00079879 between the beasts that may be Eden G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00273-00079880-00080172 and the beast that may not be eaten G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00274-00080173-00080431 HaMashiach or the anointed wasn't G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00275-00080432-00080728 talking about dietary law or a feast or G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00276-00080729-00081253 Shabbat he was those things and the word G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00277-00081254-00081519 was made flesh and dwelt among us and we G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00278-00081520-00081973 beheld his esteem the esteem as of the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00279-00081974-00082294 only begotten of the Father full of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00280-00082295-00082621 favor and truth in the beginning was the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00281-00082622-00082851 word and the Word was with God and the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00282-00082852-00082978 Word was God G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00283-00082979-00083236 he was that word he could not have been G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00284-00083237-00083467 talking about against himself he was G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00285-00083468-00083680 talking about traditions of man and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00286-00083681-00083959 actually that's what he's saying here G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00287-00083960-00084169 teaching for doctrines the commandments G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00288-00084170-00084507 of man this is done away with we don't G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00289-00084508-00084736 need to do the feast now we have G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00290-00084737-00085060 Christmas dietary law is for the Jews we G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00291-00085061-00085306 do not need to follow that the eternal G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00292-00085307-00085585 covenant with Abraham it was just a G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00293-00085586-00085873 picture of something so circumcision is G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00294-00085874-00086212 now not necessary he's never talked G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00295-00086213-00086524 about this ever in verse 8 for laying G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00296-00086525-00086818 aside the commandment of eloheem well is G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00297-00086819-00087031 the commandment of Elohim if it's not G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00298-00087032-00087369 Torah this is the one laid aside today G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00299-00087370-00087703 by people who profess themselves to be G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00300-00087704-00088021 followers of Messiah all of you hold the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00301-00088022-00088288 tradition of men as the washing of pots G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00302-00088289-00088540 and cups and many other such like things G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00303-00088541-00088869 all of you do what is his problem then G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00304-00088870-00089134 laying aside the commandment of Elohim G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00305-00089135-00089440 this is why I live it occurs chapter 12 G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00306-00089441-00089704 verse 3 and in the eighth day the flesh G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00307-00089705-00089943 of his foreskin shall be circumcised G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00308-00089944-00090343 talking about a male child so if for G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00309-00090344-00090601 laying aside the commandment of Elohim G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00310-00090602-00090862 is a problem teaching for doctrines the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00311-00090863-00091138 commandments of man how about this then G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00312-00091139-00091456 what is this saying that we do not need G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00313-00091457-00091719 to be circumcised no more isn't this a G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00314-00091720-00091987 commandment of eloheem people honor me G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00315-00091988-00092313 with their lips but their heart or their G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00316-00092314-00092725 actions is far from me in vain do they G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00317-00092726-00092947 worship Me teaching for doctrines the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00318-00092948-00093160 commandments of men for laying aside the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00319-00093161-00093253 commandment G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00320-00093254-00093517 of Elohim all of you hold the tradition G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00321-00093518-00093922 of man he repeats it in verse nine he G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00322-00093923-00094198 says unto them fool that all of you G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00323-00094199-00094381 reject the commandment of Elohim that G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00324-00094382-00094644 all of you may keep your own tradition G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00325-00094645-00094966 please do not take it personal but Alan G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00326-00094967-00095337 G White's writings our tradition of man G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00327-00095338-00095530 actually that would be the textbook G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00328-00095531-00095803 example of that you reject the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00329-00095804-00096034 commandment of Elohim that all of you G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00330-00096035-00096292 may keep your own tradition the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00331-00096293-00096535 commandment the visions the prophecies G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00332-00096536-00097030 the thoughts of man verse 13 making the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00333-00097031-00097342 word of Elohim of no effect to your G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00334-00097343-00097576 tradition which all of you have G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00335-00097577-00097864 delivered and many such like things do G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00336-00097865-00098158 all of you what was the problem then in G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00337-00098159-00098539 Marcos or mark chapter 7 is it not G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00338-00098540-00098731 obvious what the problem was your G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00339-00098732-00099063 tradition was the problem paradoxes your G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00340-00099064-00099580 ideas mains tradition the commandment of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00341-00099581-00099997 Elohim was something to be held in the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00342-00099998-00100291 highest regard because the commandment G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00343-00100292-00100654 of Elohim the Torah was walking among G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00344-00100655-00100962 men and his name was yahushua hamashiach G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00345-00100963-00101427 he cannot be changed altered set aside G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00346-00101428-00101794 destroyed abolished because he's the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00347-00101795-00102241 same yesterday and today and forever is G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00348-00102242-00102628 a bream Hebrews chapter 13 verse 8 says G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00349-00102629-00102970 so if he's the same always how can he be G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00350-00102971-00103345 changed what was the problem then what G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00351-00103346-00103624 was she all fighting against was he G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00352-00103625-00103900 keeping the law of Moshe that could not G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00353-00103901-00104149 have been just one more short thought G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00354-00104150-00104404 the church would not have survived if it G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00355-00104405-00104563 was not for sure all was heroic G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00356-00104564-00104815 intervention at crucial times this could G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00357-00104816-00104985 not have been further from the truth G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00358-00104986-00105309 saying that yahushua hamashiach smirked G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00359-00105310-00105442 and elohim's G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00360-00105443-00105763 efforts weren't enough and he needed a G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00361-00105764-00106198 man to save those efforts is just plain G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00362-00106199-00106501 naive at best but I think it's quite G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00363-00106502-00106611 foolish G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00364-00106613-00106840 this is the point man I have to agree G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00365-00106841-00106981 with that they are right in here G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00366-00106982-00107344 Judaizers and Judaism is a major problem G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00367-00107345-00107593 but it's not because of Torah it is G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00368-00107594-00107878 because of the traditions of man Mishnah G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00369-00107879-00108226 Tamid and all precepts and commandments G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00370-00108227-00108418 they have gathered throughout history G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00371-00108419-00108765 and added to Torah that is a big problem G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00372-00108766-00109090 Deuteronomy chapter 4 verse 2 yahuwah G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00373-00109091-00109359 says do not heed and do not take away G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00374-00109360-00109639 from my Torah he repeats this warning in G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00375-00109640-00109986 chapter 12 verse 32 this is Judaism G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00376-00109988-00110235 today and back then it was the same G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00377-00110236-00110530 thing we must fight against it Torah G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00378-00110531-00110896 must not be added to or taken away from G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00379-00110897-00111308 people laugh - sigh Acts chapter 15 G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00380-00111309-00111577 saying their circumcision and keeping G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00381-00111578-00111870 the law of Moshe is not in effect today G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00382-00111871-00112174 but let me show you something is the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00383-00112175-00112383 problem in verse 1 insert a man which G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00384-00112384-00112618 came down from Yahoo do Judea thought G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00385-00112619-00112918 the brother in said this is what these G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00386-00112919-00113181 people are claiming these are yahudim G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00387-00113182-00113488 israelites who believe in messiah G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00388-00113489-00113731 yahushua these are not christians G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00389-00113732-00113919 christians weren't around at that time G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00390-00113920-00114213 they were the followers of Messiah G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00391-00114214-00114568 yahushua the christianity of today this G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00392-00114569-00114933 pagan tradition was unknown at that time G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00393-00114934-00115158 that came about through the work of the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00394-00115159-00115432 roman catholic church hundreds of years G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00395-00115433-00115801 later so no one should become Christians G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00396-00115802-00116058 actually I think people shouldn't become G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00397-00116059-00116409 Christians must not become Christians to G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00398-00116410-00116677 follow traditions of man hundreds of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00399-00116678-00117033 years of corruption of Abia who was word G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00400-00117034-00117364 and his Torah and the message of his G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00401-00117365-00117696 Anointed One Christianity is a false G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00402-00117697-00118105 idea is a lie this is what these people G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00403-00118106-00118405 say except all of you be circumcised G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00404-00118406-00118672 after the manner of Moshe all of you G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00405-00118673-00119097 cannot be saved and this is false G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00406-00119098-00119551 salvation is a gift salvation requires G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00407-00119552-00119961 no effort or action on our part G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00408-00119963-00120198 it is what it says this is a gift G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00409-00120199-00120579 Ephesians chapter 2 verse 8 salvation is G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00410-00120580-00120802 a gift from Elohim and we've not done G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00411-00120803-00121086 nothing to deserve it and we cannot earn G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00412-00121088-00121134 it G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00413-00121135-00121465 so saying that one needs to do this or G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00414-00121466-00121985 that to be saved is false it is untrue G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00415-00121986-00122310 these Pharisees and Sadducees and all G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00416-00122311-00122688 other sects started teaching people and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00417-00122689-00122964 hadn't understood the message correctly G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00418-00122965-00123208 so let me state that I am in agreement G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00419-00123208-00123448 with the writers of this letter we G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00420-00123449-00123714 cannot do anything to earn salvation and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00421-00123715-00124065 I do not agree with these Judaizers here G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00422-00124066-00124324 and yes I understand the conversation G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00423-00124325-00124393 already G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00424-00124394-00124738 hundred times probably and let me show G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00425-00124739-00124941 you the full conclusion of the matter G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00426-00124942-00125184 not half of it but they talked about in G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00427-00125185-00125524 this letter that Gentiles only need to G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00428-00125525-00125739 refrain from pollution of idols G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00429-00125740-00126049 fornication things strangled and from G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00430-00126050-00126307 blood if this was the case we wouldn't G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00431-00126308-00126532 have to keep Shabbat as the Seventh day G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00432-00126533-00126748 Adventists teach where is the Shabbat G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00433-00126749-00127074 here where is stealing murder theft G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00434-00127075-00127458 robbery bestiality can we do all those G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00435-00127459-00127740 things of course not so this cannot be G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00436-00127741-00127968 the whole conclusion but it isn't G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00437-00127969-00128194 conveniently of course they forget to G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00438-00128195-00128591 mention verse 21 verse 19 and 20 I think G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00439-00128592-00128848 everyone knows that wherefore my G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00440-00128849-00129088 sentences that we trouble not them which G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00441-00129089-00129309 from among the Gentiles are turned to G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00442-00129310-00129526 Elohim but that we write unto them that G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00443-00129527-00129793 they abstain from pollution of idols and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00444-00129794-00129952 from fornication and from things G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00445-00129953-00130314 strangled and from blood acts 15 19 and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00446-00130315-00130564 20 but there is a verse after this G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00447-00130565-00131023 twenty first form O'Shay of old time has G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00448-00131024-00131304 in every seated them there preached him G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00449-00131305-00131583 being read in the synagogue every G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00450-00131584-00131979 Shabbat day this is the conclusion of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00451-00131980-00132226 the matter it's not that all these four G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00452-00132227-00132463 things you don't do and you be fine of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00453-00132464-00132547 course not G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00454-00132548-00132856 you would still be agenda a decent vegan G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00455-00132857-00133072 don't do these things they don't eat G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00456-00133073-00133342 things strangled and blood G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00457-00133343-00133600 they don't fornicate that is the start G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00458-00133601-00133786 this is what he's talking about G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00459-00133787-00134095 it is like a baby when it's born it does G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00460-00134096-00134287 not start going to school straight away G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00461-00134288-00134614 it needs to just crawl around live his G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00462-00134615-00135145 head sit up stand up totter around walk G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00463-00135146-00135511 run and then at some point G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00464-00135512-00135736 stop playing with things understanding G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00465-00135737-00135970 the word around it and then go to school G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00466-00135971-00136194 this is exactly what they talk about G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00467-00136195-00136516 listen if you want to join this ecclesia G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00468-00136517-00136906 the set apart ones you must not deal G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00469-00136907-00137155 with idols because that's just not G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00470-00137156-00137443 acceptable and also how could you deal G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00471-00137444-00137692 with idols and say that you follow the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00472-00137693-00137977 Living Elohim that's not possible this G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00473-00137978-00138291 is what they say these four things are G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00474-00138292-00138691 fundamentals to our walk but not the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00475-00138692-00139042 only things and also if we don't need to G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00476-00139043-00139402 do anything to get salvation how about G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00477-00139403-00139648 these four things so there are things we G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00478-00139649-00140041 need to do fornication and blood are G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00479-00140042-00140407 also from Torah Leviticus 18 and 20 G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00480-00140408-00140662 details the types of fornication and the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00481-00140663-00140854 sexual behavior of a follower of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00482-00140855-00141142 HaMashiach and the logins eating blood G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00483-00141143-00141511 was given to knock or Noah and from then G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00484-00141512-00141946 on it is reinforced through our Torah so G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00485-00141947-00142228 I suggest think about it this way you G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00486-00142229-00142492 must start with these four things G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00487-00142493-00142831 otherwise you not even in consideration G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00488-00142832-00143308 these are opposed to the way once you G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00489-00143309-00143734 get this then you start coming to the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00490-00143735-00144154 synagogue on the Shabbat and learn Moshe G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00491-00144155-00144502 that is exactly what's written here and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00492-00144503-00144940 you cannot escape it only if you exclude G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00493-00144941-00145258 it from your studies and it is G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00494-00145259-00145528 suspicious for me that these people just G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00495-00145529-00145801 left this out although they repeated G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00496-00145802-00146290 acts 1520 when James or Yakov recites G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00497-00146291-00146572 the verdict abstaining from meat offered G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00498-00146573-00146698 to idols blood G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00499-00146699-00147031 things strangled and fornication how can G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00500-00147032-00147370 this detail be just simply left out do G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00501-00147371-00147564 you want to tell me that no one noticed G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00502-00147565-00147784 that that is their motion of all-time G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00503-00147785-00148026 has in every city them that preaching G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00504-00148027-00148164 being read in the synagogue every G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00505-00148165-00148396 Shabbat they why would this be there if G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00506-00148397-00148657 we don't need to attend synagogue or G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00507-00148658-00148929 read Marche on the Shabbat how is that G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00508-00148930-00149190 possible to leave this out is it just a G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00509-00149191-00149538 small detail James and all this council G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00510-00149539-00149785 could not have concluded that this is G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00511-00149786-00149983 the four things that we need to do and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00512-00149984-00150327 that's it I fully agree that Judaizers G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00513-00150328-00150540 begin to preach the usual duty as a G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00514-00150541-00150781 corruption of the good news so as G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00515-00150782-00151116 Christians preach the usual Christian G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00516-00151117-00151375 corruption of the good news and have G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00517-00151376-00151645 they been successful and indeed in G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00518-00151646-00152083 Galatians second chapter Kepha walk not G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00519-00152084-00152323 according to the good news he should G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00520-00152324-00152557 have known better in Acts chapter 10 G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00521-00152558-00152956 eloheem revealed to him the truth in G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00522-00152957-00153216 every nation everyone who is willing to G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00523-00153217-00153504 follow Torah and follow Messiah he who G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00524-00153505-00153832 shows example will be accepted but one G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00525-00153833-00154195 cannot be a Gentile a pagan and claimed G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00526-00154196-00154462 to be the follower of Mashiach Ahuja who G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00527-00154463-00154815 was the living word of Elohim and that G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00528-00154816-00155307 is Torah careful listen to man he bent G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00529-00155308-00155662 so are Christians bending over to the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00530-00155663-00155907 world the expectations of the world G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00531-00155908-00156274 rightly so they cite Galatians chapter 2 G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00532-00156275-00156544 verse 16 knowing that a man is not G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00533-00156545-00156850 justified by the works of the law but by G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00534-00156851-00157174 the faith of yahushua messiah even we G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00535-00157175-00157377 have believed in yahushua hamashiach G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00536-00157378-00157624 that we might be justified by the faith G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00537-00157625-00157909 of HaMashiach and not by the works of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00538-00157910-00158079 the law for by the works of the law G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00539-00158080-00158446 shall no flesh be justified justified G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00540-00158447-00158584 actually means G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00541-00158585-00158908 des cailloux to render righteous or such G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00542-00158909-00159291 he ought to be to show exhibit evans G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00543-00159292-00159571 one to be righteous such as he 'yes and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00544-00159572-00159837 wishes himself to be considered to G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00545-00159838-00160087 declare pronouns want to be G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00546-00160088-00160405 just righteous or such as he ought to be G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00547-00160406-00160771 a person is as he owed to be that is G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00548-00160772-00161089 just we ought to be like HaMashiach G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00549-00161090-00161473 Yahoo sha the living Torah so how can we G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00550-00161474-00161791 be different and still be just if no G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00551-00161792-00162025 actions are required or works G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00552-00162026-00162328 how can she write this Ephesians chapter G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00553-00162329-00162598 2 verse 8 everyone knows this I'm sure G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00554-00162599-00162865 in Christianity for by favor G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00555-00162866-00163174 are all of you saved through faith and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00556-00163175-00163516 that not of yourself it is a gift of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00557-00163517-00163867 Elohim not of works lest any man should G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00558-00163868-00164358 boast meaning it is a gift we were not G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00559-00164359-00164647 deserving it we were not just or G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00560-00164648-00164947 righteous we are sinners it's not that I G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00561-00164948-00165172 or anyone else was better than the other G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00562-00165173-00165466 person so we get salvation we get this G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00563-00165467-00165529 gift G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00564-00165530-00165898 it wasn't deserved muhabba verse 10 for G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00565-00165899-00166237 we are his workmanship created in G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00566-00166238-00166611 HaMashiach Arusha unto good works which G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00567-00166612-00166852 elohim has before ordained that we G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00568-00166853-00167215 should walk in them so do we need works G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00569-00167216-00167575 or don't we how about--nah of works lest G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00570-00167576-00167836 any man should boast and we are created G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00571-00167837-00168145 for good works if it's true we don't G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00572-00168146-00168412 need works then how can you who quran or G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00573-00168413-00168631 john write this and i saw the dead small G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00574-00168632-00168883 and great stand before allah he and the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00575-00168884-00169072 books were opened and another book was G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00576-00169073-00169354 opened which is the book of life and the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00577-00169355-00169618 dead were judged out of those things G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00578-00169619-00169846 which were written in the books G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00579-00169847-00170134 according to their works G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00580-00170135-00170494 if there are no works required what are G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00581-00170495-00170827 these works then after this sea gave up G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00582-00170828-00171043 the Dead which were in it and death and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00583-00171044-00171319 she all delivered up the Dead which were G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00584-00171320-00171604 in them and they were judged every man G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00585-00171605-00171925 according to their works how about them G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00586-00171926-00172159 works then this is nothing new of course G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00587-00172160-00172561 a physique in chapter 18 verse 21 says G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00588-00172562-00172888 this but if the wicked will turn from G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00589-00172889-00173161 all his sins that he has committed and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00590-00173162-00173443 keep all my statutes and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00591-00173444-00173797 do that which is lawful and right he G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00592-00173798-00174213 shall live and he shall not die all his G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00593-00174214-00174448 transgressions that he has committed G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00594-00174449-00174738 they shall not be mentioned unto Him G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00595-00174739-00174975 listen carefully in his righteousness G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00596-00174976-00175486 that he has done he shall live have I G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00597-00175487-00175728 any pleasure at all that the wicked G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00598-00175729-00176044 should die says yahuwah elohim and not G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00599-00176045-00176308 that he should return from his way and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00600-00176309-00176661 live this is exactly what Kepha in the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00601-00176662-00176979 first episode says 4th chapter 4 as much G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00602-00176980-00177204 then as HaMashiach has suffered for us G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00603-00177205-00177513 in the flesh arm yourself likewise with G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00604-00177514-00177813 the same mind for he that has suffered G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00605-00177814-00178179 in the flesh has seized from sin he does G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00606-00178180-00178507 not do no more sin that his righteous G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00607-00178508-00178783 works that he no longer should live the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00608-00178784-00179008 rest of his time in the flesh to the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00609-00179009-00179310 lust of man but to the will of elohim G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00610-00179311-00179816 living the life our works we must prove G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00611-00179817-00180271 that we have faith in that gift and the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00612-00180272-00180697 proof is our works but you don't need to G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00613-00180698-00180978 believe me for the time passed of our G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00614-00180979-00181275 life made suffice us to have wrought the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00615-00181276-00181570 will of the gentiles what is the will of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00616-00181571-00181929 the gentiles lawlessness there are less G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00617-00181930-00182406 life genta is a person who is not of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00618-00182407-00182731 isil and the difference between the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00619-00182732-00183106 world and the children of elohim is that G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00620-00183107-00183399 the children of elohim follow his word G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00621-00183400-00183834 and his word 'is torah when we walked in G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00622-00183835-00184211 lasciviousness lost excess of wine G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00623-00184212-00184602 revellings banqueting z' and abominable G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00624-00184603-00184858 idolatries we're and they think it G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00625-00184859-00185143 strange that all of you run not with G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00626-00185144-00185424 them to the same excess of riot speaking G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00627-00185425-00185758 evil of you this is the word speaking G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00628-00185759-00186046 evil of the people who try to follow G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00629-00186047-00186453 Torah that is righteousness but here is G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00630-00186454-00186827 the same concept we read in the Hezekiah G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00631-00186828-00187193 in Kazan or revelation who shall give G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00632-00187194-00187514 account to him that is ready to judge G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00633-00187515-00187625 the quick and the dead G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00634-00187626-00187949 that judging regis read about in G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00635-00187950-00188336 Revelation chapter 24 this cause was the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00636-00188337-00188609 good news preached also to them that are G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00637-00188610-00188993 dead that they might be judged according G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00638-00188994-00189428 to man in the flesh but live according G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00639-00189429-00189818 to elohim in the spirit shall repeats G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00640-00189819-00190034 this over and over for not the hearers G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00641-00190035-00190316 of the Torah are just before Elohim but G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00642-00190317-00190579 the doers of the law shall be justified G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00643-00190580-00190814 how can the doers of the law be G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00644-00190815-00191051 justified if it's done away with if it's G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00645-00191052-00191285 fulfilled so we don't need to do that G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00646-00191286-00191627 there is no way one can say that this is G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00647-00191628-00191879 the law of Christ or the law of love G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00648-00191880-00192182 there's no way one can distinguish this G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00649-00192183-00192593 law from Torah this must be there but G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00650-00192594-00192899 what people hear law let's the Torah G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00651-00192900-00193127 they hear in adds we're just ready G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00652-00193128-00193382 chapter fifteen verse twenty first the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00653-00193383-00193642 law of Moshe preached on the Shabbat G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00654-00193643-00193937 every synagogue that's the law he's G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00655-00193938-00194150 talking about here it's not enough to G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00656-00194151-00194441 hear this but you must do it G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00657-00194442-00194828 he says circumcision verily profits it G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00658-00194829-00195319 is a good thing if you keep the law in G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00659-00195320-00195635 1st Corinthians chapter 7 verse 19 G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00660-00195636-00195806 circumcision is nothing and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00661-00195807-00196127 uncircumcision is nothing so what is G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00662-00196128-00196439 something then but the keeping of the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00663-00196440-00196703 commandments of Elohim G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00664-00196704-00196949 so how can one get around this the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00665-00196950-00197378 commandments of Elohim his Torah so let G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00666-00197379-00197555 me sum it up real quick because this has G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00667-00197556-00197843 been quite a long video Judaizers and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00668-00197844-00198077 Judaism is a big problem so his G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00669-00198078-00198392 Christianity the tradition of man the G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00670-00198393-00198638 thoughts and ideas and philosophy of G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00671-00198639-00199070 persons has corrupted the true good news G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00672-00199071-00199487 the good news is simple elohim gives us G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00673-00199488-00199904 a clean slate a blank sheet wipes away G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00674-00199905-00200219 all our sins provided that G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00675-00200220-00200522 we believe in a messiah yahushua he's G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00676-00200523-00201086 sacrificed his lamp and we prove it with G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00677-00201087-00201433 our lifestyle that the ruach ha'qodesh G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00678-00201434-00201842 the Holy Ghost the Holy Spirit drives us G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00679-00201843-00202226 forward day after day and the person who G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00680-00202227-00202832 is driven by this Ruach will not sin and G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00681-00202833-00203213 sin is the transgression of the law G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00682-00203214-00203609 1st John chapter 3 verse 4 and that is G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00683-00203610-00204043 not the law of Jesus or the law of love G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00684-00204044-00204518 that is Torah should you want to get in G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00685-00204519-00204764 touch with us here's our contact details G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00686-00204765-00205016 and we are looking forward to hearing G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00687-00205017-00205067 from you G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00688-00205067-00205361 in case you'd like to support us that's G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00689-00205362-00205616 much appreciated praise honor and esteem G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00690-00205617-00205829 - abba yahuveh through his son yahushua G7Ah1Wjix6Y-00691-00205830-00206231 messiah shallow G90bZFNvObU-00000-00000049-00001158 [Music] G90bZFNvObU-00001-00001159-00003058 thank you G90bZFNvObU-00002-00003059-00005130 foreign G90bZFNvObU-00003-00005131-00006103 [Music] GrfbJCo6i1A-00000-00000000-00000209 parts of Maine are still dealing with GrfbJCo6i1A-00001-00000210-00000491 yesterday's storm in Gardner some roads GrfbJCo6i1A-00002-00000492-00000707 are washed out the water is about as GrfbJCo6i1A-00003-00000708-00000893 high as the cars are parts of the GrfbJCo6i1A-00004-00000894-00001103 Hannaford parking lot are flooded as GrfbJCo6i1A-00005-00001104-00001354 well that damage can be found in many GrfbJCo6i1A-00006-00001355-00001547 communities NewsCenter Maine's Jackie GrfbJCo6i1A-00007-00001548-00001739 mundry joining us live from the loose in GrfbJCo6i1A-00008-00001739-00001876 Auburn area with a look at the impact GrfbJCo6i1A-00009-00001877-00002201 there hi Jackie GrfbJCo6i1A-00010-00002202-00002429 hey guys yeah we are in Auburn right now GrfbJCo6i1A-00011-00002430-00002584 as you can see behind me the Great Falls GrfbJCo6i1A-00012-00002585-00002860 are ripping and it's been like this all GrfbJCo6i1A-00013-00002861-00003095 day but earlier today we drove across GrfbJCo6i1A-00014-00003096-00003304 Oxford and Androscoggin County as you GrfbJCo6i1A-00015-00003305-00003443 can see in this video coming up from the GrfbJCo6i1A-00016-00003444-00003713 town of Sweden there's erosion on a lot GrfbJCo6i1A-00017-00003714-00003904 of the shoulders of the roads there and GrfbJCo6i1A-00018-00003905-00004043 the Emergency Management officials say GrfbJCo6i1A-00019-00004044-00004241 Crews will have to come out and fill it GrfbJCo6i1A-00020-00004242-00004486 in with gravel once this week is done GrfbJCo6i1A-00021-00004487-00004720 but they say that some roads and GrfbJCo6i1A-00022-00004721-00004888 driveways aren't going to be able to be GrfbJCo6i1A-00023-00004889-00005206 used for a little while GrfbJCo6i1A-00024-00005207-00005483 all those areas that eroded away has to GrfbJCo6i1A-00025-00005484-00005770 be refilled with good gravel and packed GrfbJCo6i1A-00026-00005771-00005963 down and yeah there's some driveways GrfbJCo6i1A-00027-00005964-00006115 that you can't even get in because GrfbJCo6i1A-00028-00006116-00006425 they're totally watched across and and GrfbJCo6i1A-00029-00006426-00006881 is not accessible GrfbJCo6i1A-00030-00006881-00007037 it's raining here in Auburn as I'm sure GrfbJCo6i1A-00031-00007038-00007289 you can see and officials both in Sweden GrfbJCo6i1A-00032-00007290-00007469 and the main Emergency Management agency GrfbJCo6i1A-00033-00007470-00007655 say to be really patient when you're out GrfbJCo6i1A-00034-00007656-00007895 especially on these gravel roads because GrfbJCo6i1A-00035-00007895-00008051 of the erosion that it could be a little GrfbJCo6i1A-00036-00008052-00008273 slippery and not very easy to drive on GrfbJCo6i1A-00037-00008274-00008483 guys Jackie mundry live in Auburn GrfbJCo6i1A-00038-00008484-00008633 tonight with the falls right behind her GrfbJCo6i1A-00039-00008634-00008911 Jackie thanks so much Gw3plgotgmM-00000-00000160-00000483 this is benign 11 talk podcast episode Gw3plgotgmM-00001-00000484-00000882 89 for monday jun 17 2012 welcome to Gw3plgotgmM-00002-00000883-00001083 this edition of a 911 talk with your Gw3plgotgmM-00003-00001084-00001290 host mark fletcher line manager Gw3plgotgmM-00004-00001291-00001584 for emergency services at abaya no Gw3plgotgmM-00005-00001585-00002097 here's flesh and then there were 18 hey Gw3plgotgmM-00006-00002098-00002361 where did that last one sneak in if you Gw3plgotgmM-00007-00002362-00002556 ask the question how many states in the Gw3plgotgmM-00008-00002557-00002862 US have legislation regarding em LTS PBX Gw3plgotgmM-00009-00002863-00003120 systems most e-911 professionals Gw3plgotgmM-00010-00003121-00003315 including myself would have answered Gw3plgotgmM-00011-00003315-00003665 with the number 17 in fact that's the Gw3plgotgmM-00012-00003667-00003890 number published on the Nina website in Gw3plgotgmM-00013-00003892-00004184 there M LTS PBX section that tracks Gw3plgotgmM-00014-00004185-00004513 these various laws up until December of Gw3plgotgmM-00015-00004514-00004754 2011 it was generally accepted that Gw3plgotgmM-00016-00004755-00005081 there were 16 recognized States it was Gw3plgotgmM-00017-00005082-00005268 at this time that Michigan added Gw3plgotgmM-00018-00005269-00005405 themselves to the ranks of states Gw3plgotgmM-00019-00005406-00005693 requiring ml TSE 91 although their Gw3plgotgmM-00020-00005694-00005864 enforcement efforts won't begin until Gw3plgotgmM-00021-00005865-00006291 january first 2017 so what state is the Gw3plgotgmM-00022-00006292-00006630 mystery number 18 well i received a call Gw3plgotgmM-00023-00006631-00006834 this past week from a distributor in new Gw3plgotgmM-00024-00006834-00007052 hampshire that explained to me that one Gw3plgotgmM-00025-00007053-00007328 of his university customers had received Gw3plgotgmM-00026-00007329-00007563 a letter from the state advising them of Gw3plgotgmM-00027-00007564-00007745 an enum one call that originated from Gw3plgotgmM-00028-00007746-00007983 their facility that only showed the main Gw3plgotgmM-00029-00007984-00008252 campus address the letter continued to Gw3plgotgmM-00030-00008253-00008492 explain that the university was not in Gw3plgotgmM-00031-00008493-00008678 compliance with state regulations Gw3plgotgmM-00032-00008679-00009038 regarding M LTS PBX reporting on e 911 Gw3plgotgmM-00033-00009039-00009266 calls while my immediate reaction was Gw3plgotgmM-00034-00009267-00009521 since New Hampshire didn't have em LTS Gw3plgotgmM-00035-00009522-00009767 legislation there's got to be some kind Gw3plgotgmM-00036-00009768-00009969 of mistake somewhere and that's when I Gw3plgotgmM-00037-00009970-00010256 started my quest for the truth I started Gw3plgotgmM-00038-00010257-00010442 with the source of the mysterious letter Gw3plgotgmM-00039-00010443-00010701 from the state and that led me directly Gw3plgotgmM-00040-00010702-00010941 to the source of the information timothy Gw3plgotgmM-00041-00010942-00011244 scott tim is the data operations manager Gw3plgotgmM-00042-00011245-00011327 for the state of New Hampshire Gw3plgotgmM-00043-00011328-00011583 Department of Safety Division of Gw3plgotgmM-00044-00011584-00011795 Emergency Services and communications Gw3plgotgmM-00045-00011796-00012020 sounds like a likely good place to start Gw3plgotgmM-00046-00012021-00012263 but now the hard part how was I going to Gw3plgotgmM-00047-00012264-00012483 call mr. Scott and ask him why I never Gw3plgotgmM-00048-00012484-00012705 heard of the New Hampshire legislation Gw3plgotgmM-00049-00012706-00012930 nor has Nina or anyone else in that Gw3plgotgmM-00050-00012931-00012976 matter Gw3plgotgmM-00051-00012977-00013269 in the industry in fact just recently at Gw3plgotgmM-00052-00013271-00013513 Nina 2012 in Long Beach I had a Gw3plgotgmM-00053-00013513-00013675 discussion with Nina's government Gw3plgotgmM-00054-00013676-00013843 affairs director tray for Katie about Gw3plgotgmM-00055-00013844-00014065 the MLT s legislation status in the Gw3plgotgmM-00056-00014066-00014313 United States and i can tell you New Gw3plgotgmM-00057-00014315-00014602 Hampshire certainly didn't come up well Gw3plgotgmM-00058-00014603-00014830 mr. Scott took my call although was for Gw3plgotgmM-00059-00014831-00015049 45 at the end of a workday and seemed Gw3plgotgmM-00060-00015050-00015229 happy to spend the time he needed to Gw3plgotgmM-00061-00015230-00015646 clarify his stance on MLT se 911 hey I'm Gw3plgotgmM-00062-00015647-00015838 starting to like this guy already he Gw3plgotgmM-00063-00015838-00016102 stated that quote our policy which is Gw3plgotgmM-00064-00016103-00016315 based on New Hampshire statutes and on Gw3plgotgmM-00065-00016316-00016582 standards published by Nina is that for Gw3plgotgmM-00066-00016583-00016825 accurate geographical location where we Gw3plgotgmM-00067-00016826-00017146 require a unique city style address for Gw3plgotgmM-00068-00017147-00017353 the structure where the telephone is Gw3plgotgmM-00069-00017354-00017638 located he continued to say that in Gw3plgotgmM-00070-00017639-00017803 addition for structures that are greater Gw3plgotgmM-00071-00017804-00018091 than 40,000 square feet and or have Gw3plgotgmM-00072-00018092-00018325 multiple floors must provide additional Gw3plgotgmM-00073-00018326-00018565 location information that will narrow Gw3plgotgmM-00074-00018566-00018781 down the geographic location of the Gw3plgotgmM-00075-00018782-00019060 telephone inside the building so that Gw3plgotgmM-00076-00019061-00019234 all seems pretty logical to me and Gw3plgotgmM-00077-00019235-00019534 follows the standard of 40,000 square Gw3plgotgmM-00078-00019535-00019765 foot zones and each individual floor has Gw3plgotgmM-00079-00019766-00019975 to be its own emergency response Gw3plgotgmM-00080-00019976-00020260 location as well as individual buildings Gw3plgotgmM-00081-00020261-00020476 the New Hampshire statutes that he Gw3plgotgmM-00082-00020477-00020704 reference were as follows New Hampshire Gw3plgotgmM-00083-00020705-00021067 revised statute annotated 378 colon 17 Gw3plgotgmM-00084-00021068-00021430 dash C non public utility providers of Gw3plgotgmM-00085-00021431-00021718 telephone services using a PBX which or Gw3plgotgmM-00086-00021719-00021913 similar equipment shall be considered Gw3plgotgmM-00087-00021914-00022177 telephone utilities for the purposes of Gw3plgotgmM-00088-00022178-00022684 RSA 1068 colon eight non utility Gw3plgotgmM-00089-00022685-00022882 providers of telephone services shall Gw3plgotgmM-00090-00022883-00023101 comply with the telephone utility Gw3plgotgmM-00091-00023102-00023533 requirement of RSA 106 dash 8 colon 8 no Gw3plgotgmM-00092-00023534-00023923 later than january first 2007 okay great Gw3plgotgmM-00093-00023924-00024172 that's easy if you operate a PBX you're Gw3plgotgmM-00094-00024173-00024397 considered a non public utility in the Gw3plgotgmM-00095-00024398-00024628 statute that is applicable to utilities Gw3plgotgmM-00096-00024629-00024922 is also applicable to you so let's look Gw3plgotgmM-00097-00024923-00025312 at RSA 106 call an H dash 8 it states Gw3plgotgmM-00098-00025313-00025549 that each telephone service provider Gw3plgotgmM-00099-00025550-00025809 shall assure that all requests for Gw3plgotgmM-00100-00025810-00026047 police fire medical or other Gw3plgotgmM-00101-00026048-00026255 emergency services received by the Gw3plgotgmM-00102-00026256-00026446 provider or the providers operator Gw3plgotgmM-00103-00026447-00026645 services shall be transferred to the Gw3plgotgmM-00104-00026645-00026887 public safety answer point such transfer Gw3plgotgmM-00105-00026888-00027026 shall include the calling party's Gw3plgotgmM-00106-00027027-00027212 telephone number in American Standard Gw3plgotgmM-00107-00027213-00027430 Code for information exchange that's a Gw3plgotgmM-00108-00027431-00027677 ski and in a format recommended for data Gw3plgotgmM-00109-00027677-00027937 exchange by meena key part of this is Gw3plgotgmM-00110-00027938-00028208 the calling party's number and that's Gw3plgotgmM-00111-00028208-00028414 what has to be transmitted to the pset Gw3plgotgmM-00112-00028416-00028802 there's another statute RSA 106 dash h Gw3plgotgmM-00113-00028802-00029180 colon 2 section 7 defines the enhanced Gw3plgotgmM-00114-00029181-00029512 911 system in enhanced 911 services as a Gw3plgotgmM-00115-00029513-00029755 system consisting of selective routing Gw3plgotgmM-00116-00029756-00030008 with the capability of automatic number Gw3plgotgmM-00117-00030008-00030299 and location identification at a public Gw3plgotgmM-00118-00030300-00030487 safety answering point which enable Gw3plgotgmM-00119-00030488-00030664 users of the public telecommunication Gw3plgotgmM-00120-00030665-00030949 system to request emergency services by Gw3plgotgmM-00121-00030950-00031324 dialing the digits 911 so when you put Gw3plgotgmM-00122-00031325-00031558 all this together as far as the state of Gw3plgotgmM-00123-00031559-00031774 New Hampshire is concerned each phone Gw3plgotgmM-00124-00031775-00031973 number is required to have accurate Gw3plgotgmM-00125-00031974-00032249 location information including apartment Gw3plgotgmM-00126-00032250-00032537 suite and floor information now just in Gw3plgotgmM-00127-00032538-00032711 case that wasn't enough to convince you Gw3plgotgmM-00128-00032712-00032920 mr. Scott also reminded me that the Gw3plgotgmM-00129-00032921-00033196 Americans with Disabilities Act requires Gw3plgotgmM-00130-00033197-00033461 all public and private institutions to Gw3plgotgmM-00131-00033462-00033649 provide the handicapped with the same Gw3plgotgmM-00132-00033650-00033889 level of services as the general public Gw3plgotgmM-00133-00033890-00034202 has available and that the Occupational Gw3plgotgmM-00134-00034203-00034399 Safety and Health Administration or OSHA Gw3plgotgmM-00135-00034400-00034673 may consider failing to adopt a nivel Gw3plgotgmM-00136-00034674-00034892 one with additional location information Gw3plgotgmM-00137-00034893-00035215 as evidence that an institution did not Gw3plgotgmM-00138-00035216-00035452 maintain a hazard free environment for Gw3plgotgmM-00139-00035453-00035702 guests or employees that's certainly Gw3plgotgmM-00140-00035703-00035855 something we've heard from various Gw3plgotgmM-00141-00035856-00036012 segments of our legal community before Gw3plgotgmM-00142-00036013-00036364 he concluded with based on this it would Gw3plgotgmM-00143-00036365-00036637 be his agency's belief that failure to Gw3plgotgmM-00144-00036638-00036983 provide enhanced 911 services would be a Gw3plgotgmM-00145-00036984-00037232 violation of federal law well those are Gw3plgotgmM-00146-00037233-00037405 some pretty strong words from a little Gw3plgotgmM-00147-00037406-00037549 state of New Hampshire and I commend Gw3plgotgmM-00148-00037550-00037765 them on that so there you have it 18 Gw3plgotgmM-00149-00037766-00038033 down 32 to go welcome to the club New Gw3plgotgmM-00150-00038034-00038251 Hampshire Gw3plgotgmM-00151-00038252-00038558 you've been listening to the e-911 talk Gw3plgotgmM-00152-00038559-00038768 podcast with your host mark fletcher Gw3plgotgmM-00153-00038769-00038978 product line manager for emergency Gw3plgotgmM-00154-00038979-00039296 services at ohio e-911 talk is a weekly Gw3plgotgmM-00155-00039297-00039521 podcast available on sites like this as Gw3plgotgmM-00156-00039522-00039785 well as itunes and is available free of Gw3plgotgmM-00157-00039786-00040004 charge if you have any comments or Gw3plgotgmM-00158-00040005-00040229 questions you can email Fletch at Gw3plgotgmM-00159-00040230-00040622 Fletcher em at avaya com that's Fletcher Gw3plgotgmM-00160-00040623-00040970 the letter M at avaya com be sure to Gw3plgotgmM-00161-00040971-00041180 listen in next week for more informative Gw3plgotgmM-00162-00041181-00041747 topics on e 911 911 the line is recorded Gw3plgotgmM-00163-00041748-00041900 what is the exact location of your Gw3plgotgmM-00164-00041901-00042107 emergency GxiYSB8fMJc-00000-00000000-00001349 foreign GxiYSB8fMJc-00001-00001350-00001618 thank you sir for guiding us from the GxiYSB8fMJc-00002-00001619-00001829 beginning to organize this GxiYSB8fMJc-00003-00001830-00002068 and bringing all those who have been GxiYSB8fMJc-00004-00002069-00002333 recognized for their GxiYSB8fMJc-00005-00002334-00002513 excellent work by the Prime Minister GxiYSB8fMJc-00006-00002514-00002692 making them sit here and give them an GxiYSB8fMJc-00007-00002693-00002950 opportunity recognizing their work GxiYSB8fMJc-00008-00002951-00003233 and making this happen from the GxiYSB8fMJc-00009-00003234-00003485 beginning you were there with us to GxiYSB8fMJc-00010-00003486-00003593 guide us through GxiYSB8fMJc-00011-00003594-00003820 we thank you for that GxiYSB8fMJc-00012-00003821-00006587 is GxiYSB8fMJc-00013-00006588-00009078 foreign GxiYSB8fMJc-00014-00009079-00009383 I thank each one of you for making this GxiYSB8fMJc-00015-00009384-00009533 happen it's because of the efforts of GxiYSB8fMJc-00016-00009534-00009703 all of you GxiYSB8fMJc-00017-00009704-00009971 if you people have not taken the effort GxiYSB8fMJc-00018-00009972-00010073 to come GxiYSB8fMJc-00019-00010074-00010295 it would not have been a success thank GxiYSB8fMJc-00020-00010296-00010541 you for sparing your 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of devices which can be used to GyXyKIA0GB0-00016-00004298-00004582 form daisy chains are those based on USB GyXyKIA0GB0-00017-00004583-00005381 firewire thunderbolt and ethernet cables GyXyKIA0GB0-00018-00005382-00006090 topic signal transmission for analog GyXyKIA0GB0-00019-00006091-00006360 signals connections usually consists of GyXyKIA0GB0-00020-00006361-00006594 a simple electrical bus and especially GyXyKIA0GB0-00021-00006595-00006819 in the case of a chain of many devices GyXyKIA0GB0-00022-00006820-00007044 may require the use of one or more GyXyKIA0GB0-00023-00007045-00007305 repeaters or amplifiers within the chain GyXyKIA0GB0-00024-00007306-00007539 to counteract attenuation the natural GyXyKIA0GB0-00025-00007540-00007874 loss of energy in such a system digital GyXyKIA0GB0-00026-00007875-00008151 signals between devices may also travel GyXyKIA0GB0-00027-00008152-00008406 on a simple electrical bus in which case GyXyKIA0GB0-00028-00008407-00008610 a bus terminator may be needed on the GyXyKIA0GB0-00029-00008611-00008783 last device in the chain GyXyKIA0GB0-00030-00008784-00009113 however unlike analog signals because GyXyKIA0GB0-00031-00009114-00009330 digital signals are discrete they may GyXyKIA0GB0-00032-00009331-00009582 also be electrically regenerated but not GyXyKIA0GB0-00033-00009583-00010328 modified by any device in the chain GyXyKIA0GB0-00034-00010329-00010862 topic types GyXyKIA0GB0-00035-00010863-00011176 you GyXyKIA0GB0-00036-00011177-00011718 topic computer hardware GyXyKIA0GB0-00037-00011719-00011983 some hardware can be attached to a GyXyKIA0GB0-00038-00011984-00012207 computing system in a daisy-chain GyXyKIA0GB0-00039-00012208-00012400 configuration by connecting each GyXyKIA0GB0-00040-00012401-00012628 component to another similar component GyXyKIA0GB0-00041-00012629-00012819 rather than directly to the computing GyXyKIA0GB0-00042-00012820-00013135 system that uses the component only the GyXyKIA0GB0-00043-00013136-00013357 last component in the chain directly GyXyKIA0GB0-00044-00013358-00013636 connects to the computing system for GyXyKIA0GB0-00045-00013637-00013879 example chaining multiple components GyXyKIA0GB0-00046-00013880-00014088 that each have a uart port to each other GyXyKIA0GB0-00047-00014088-00014362 the components must also behave GyXyKIA0GB0-00048-00014363-00014722 cooperatively eg only one seizes the GyXyKIA0GB0-00049-00014722-00015172 communications bus at a time SCSI as an GyXyKIA0GB0-00050-00015172-00015397 example of a digital system that is GyXyKIA0GB0-00051-00015397-00015604 electrically a bus in the case of GyXyKIA0GB0-00052-00015605-00015871 external devices is physically wired as GyXyKIA0GB0-00053-00015872-00016159 a daisy chain since the network is GyXyKIA0GB0-00054-00016160-00016387 electrically a bus it must be terminated GyXyKIA0GB0-00055-00016388-00016621 and this may be done either by plugging GyXyKIA0GB0-00056-00016622-00016840 a terminator into the last device or GyXyKIA0GB0-00057-00016841-00017032 selecting an option to make the device GyXyKIA0GB0-00058-00017033-00017386 terminate internally MIDI devices are GyXyKIA0GB0-00059-00017387-00017611 usually designed to be wired in a daisy GyXyKIA0GB0-00060-00017612-00017935 chain it is normal for a device to have GyXyKIA0GB0-00061-00017936-00018153 both a through port and an out port and GyXyKIA0GB0-00062-00018154-00018442 often both can be used for chaining the GyXyKIA0GB0-00063-00018443-00018667 through port transmits the information GyXyKIA0GB0-00064-00018668-00018841 through with minimal delay and no GyXyKIA0GB0-00065-00018842-00019060 alteration while the out port sends a GyXyKIA0GB0-00066-00019061-00019294 completely regenerated signal and may GyXyKIA0GB0-00067-00019295-00019552 add remove or change messages at the GyXyKIA0GB0-00068-00019553-00019849 cost of some delay in doing so the GyXyKIA0GB0-00069-00019850-00020038 difference can result in the signals GyXyKIA0GB0-00070-00020039-00020263 arriving at different times if the chain GyXyKIA0GB0-00071-00020264-00020488 is long enough it will be distorted so GyXyKIA0GB0-00072-00020489-00020653 much that the system can become GyXyKIA0GB0-00073-00020654-00021046 unreliable or non-functional some serial GyXyKIA0GB0-00074-00021047-00021409 peripheral interface bus SPI IC products GyXyKIA0GB0-00075-00021410-00021660 are designed with daisy chain capability GyXyKIA0GB0-00076-00021661-00022039 all JTA G integrated circuits should GyXyKIA0GB0-00077-00022040-00022288 support daisy chaining according to JTA GyXyKIA0GB0-00078-00022289-00022681 g daisy chaining guidelines thunderbolt GyXyKIA0GB0-00079-00022682-00022950 interface also supports daisy chain GyXyKIA0GB0-00080-00022951-00023221 devices such as raid arrays and computer GyXyKIA0GB0-00081-00023222-00023599 monitors the hex bus is the 10 wire bus GyXyKIA0GB0-00082-00023600-00023911 of texas instruments used in the TI 99 GyXyKIA0GB0-00083-00023912-00024414 for a cc 40 + TI 74 GyXyKIA0GB0-00084-00024415-00024738 topic network topology any particular GyXyKIA0GB0-00085-00024739-00024972 daisy-chain forms one of two Network GyXyKIA0GB0-00086-00024973-00025300 topologies linear topology for example GyXyKIA0GB0-00087-00025301-00025447 ABCDE GyXyKIA0GB0-00088-00025448-00025820 ABCDE and cm and O branched at sea are GyXyKIA0GB0-00089-00025822-00026165 daisy chain ring topology there is a GyXyKIA0GB0-00090-00026166-00026345 loop connection back from the last GyXyKIA0GB0-00091-00026347-00026787 device to the first for example ABCDE a GyXyKIA0GB0-00092-00026788-00027081 loop this is often called a daisy chain GyXyKIA0GB0-00093-00027082-00027595 loop GyXyKIA0GB0-00094-00027597-00028164 topic system access GyXyKIA0GB0-00095-00028166-00028452 users can daisy-chain computing sessions GyXyKIA0GB0-00096-00028454-00028744 together using services such as telnet GyXyKIA0GB0-00097-00028745-00029058 or SSH the user creates a session on a GyXyKIA0GB0-00098-00029060-00029302 second computer via telnet and from the GyXyKIA0GB0-00099-00029302-00029554 second session telnet to a third and so GyXyKIA0GB0-00100-00029555-00029852 on another typical example is the GyXyKIA0GB0-00101-00029854-00030130 terminal session inside a terminal GyXyKIA0GB0-00102-00030131-00030508 session using RDP reasons to create GyXyKIA0GB0-00103-00030508-00030742 daisy chains include connecting to a GyXyKIA0GB0-00104-00030743-00030976 system on a non routed network via a GyXyKIA0GB0-00105-00030977-00031227 gateway system preserving sessions on GyXyKIA0GB0-00106-00031229-00031420 the initial computer while working on a GyXyKIA0GB0-00107-00031420-00031672 second computer to save bandwidth or GyXyKIA0GB0-00108-00031673-00031855 improve connectivity on an unstable GyXyKIA0GB0-00109-00031856-00032092 network by first connecting to a better GyXyKIA0GB0-00110-00032093-00032377 connected machine a less wholesome GyXyKIA0GB0-00111-00032377-00032617 purpose is camouflaging activity while GyXyKIA0GB0-00112-00032618-00032965 engaged in cybercrime GA98__v2rD8-00000-00000420-00001316 [Music] GA98__v2rD8-00001-00001317-00004308 [Music] GA98__v2rD8-00002-00004309-00005277 [Music] GA98__v2rD8-00004-00009969-00010874 [Music] GA98__v2rD8-00005-00010875-00011780 [Music] GA98__v2rD8-00006-00011781-00012639 [Music] GA98__v2rD8-00007-00012640-00014083 [Music] GA98__v2rD8-00008-00014084-00014894 so GA98__v2rD8-00009-00014896-00016883 [Music] GA98__v2rD8-00010-00016884-00017912 so GA98__v2rD8-00011-00017913-00018283 [Music] GA98__v2rD8-00012-00018284-00018950 is GA98__v2rD8-00013-00018951-00020001 [Music] GA98__v2rD8-00015-00023392-00023600 you GCq5VmPe8nM-00000-00000053-00000278 the Oxford movement was a movement of GCq5VmPe8nM-00001-00000279-00000442 high church members of the Church of GCq5VmPe8nM-00002-00000443-00000620 England which eventually developed into GCq5VmPe8nM-00003-00000621-00000902 Anglo Catholicism the movement whose GCq5VmPe8nM-00004-00000902-00001148 original devotees were mostly associated GCq5VmPe8nM-00005-00001149-00001364 with the University of Oxford argued for GCq5VmPe8nM-00006-00001365-00001511 the reinstatement of some older GCq5VmPe8nM-00007-00001512-00001682 Christian traditions of faith and their GCq5VmPe8nM-00008-00001682-00001871 inclusion into Anglican liturgy and GCq5VmPe8nM-00009-00001872-00002143 theology they thought of Anglicanism as GCq5VmPe8nM-00010-00002144-00002339 one of three branches of the one Holy GCq5VmPe8nM-00011-00002340-00002657 Catholic and Apostolic Church the GCq5VmPe8nM-00012-00002658-00002860 movements philosophy was known as tract GCq5VmPe8nM-00013-00002861-00003029 arianism after its series of GCq5VmPe8nM-00014-00003030-00003217 publications the tracts for The Times GCq5VmPe8nM-00015-00003218-00003673 published from 1833 to 1841 tract Aryans GCq5VmPe8nM-00016-00003674-00003884 were also disparagingly referred to as GCq5VmPe8nM-00017-00003885-00004327 Numa nights before 1845 and i'ts GCq5VmPe8nM-00018-00004328-00004675 after 1845 after two prominent tract GCq5VmPe8nM-00019-00004676-00004882 Aryans John Henry Newman and Edward GCq5VmPe8nM-00020-00004883-00005152 bouverie Pusey other well-known tract GCq5VmPe8nM-00021-00005153-00005375 Aryans included John Keeble Charles GCq5VmPe8nM-00022-00005376-00005563 Marriott richard froede Robert GCq5VmPe8nM-00023-00005564-00005777 Wilberforce Isaac Williams and William GCq5VmPe8nM-00024-00005778-00006329 Palmer GCq5VmPe8nM-00025-00006330-00006942 topic origins and early period GCq5VmPe8nM-00026-00006943-00007197 in the early 19th century different GCq5VmPe8nM-00027-00007198-00007344 groups were present in the Church of GCq5VmPe8nM-00028-00007345-00007638 England many particularly in high office GCq5VmPe8nM-00029-00007639-00007895 saw themselves as latitudinarian liberal GCq5VmPe8nM-00030-00007897-00008070 in an attempt to broaden the church's GCq5VmPe8nM-00031-00008070-00008370 appeal conversely many clergy in the GCq5VmPe8nM-00032-00008371-00008598 parishes were evangelicals as a result GCq5VmPe8nM-00033-00008599-00008814 of the revival led by John Wesley who GCq5VmPe8nM-00034-00008815-00009024 had however a highly sacrificial GCq5VmPe8nM-00035-00009025-00009210 doctrine of the Holy Eucharist which is GCq5VmPe8nM-00036-00009211-00009405 reflected in his brother Charles's hymns GCq5VmPe8nM-00037-00009406-00009678 an unusual for an 18th century Anglican GCq5VmPe8nM-00038-00009679-00009873 he took communion 90 times a year on GCq5VmPe8nM-00039-00009874-00010170 average and others alongside this the GCq5VmPe8nM-00040-00010171-00010362 universities became the breeding ground GCq5VmPe8nM-00041-00010363-00010575 for a movement to restore liturgical and GCq5VmPe8nM-00042-00010576-00010752 devotional customs which borrowed GCq5VmPe8nM-00043-00010753-00010914 heavily from traditions before the GCq5VmPe8nM-00044-00010915-00011076 English Reformation as well as GCq5VmPe8nM-00045-00011077-00011292 contemporary Roman Catholic traditions GCq5VmPe8nM-00046-00011293-00011469 the immediate impetus for the tract GCq5VmPe8nM-00047-00011470-00011676 aryan movement was a perceived attack by GCq5VmPe8nM-00048-00011677-00011868 the reforming Whig administration on the GCq5VmPe8nM-00049-00011869-00012024 structure and revenues of the Church of GCq5VmPe8nM-00050-00012025-00012219 Ireland the established Church in GCq5VmPe8nM-00051-00012220-00012357 Ireland with the Irish Church GCq5VmPe8nM-00052-00012358-00012726 temporalities bill 1833 this bill not GCq5VmPe8nM-00053-00012727-00012957 only legislated administrative changes GCq5VmPe8nM-00054-00012958-00013125 of the hierarchy of the church for GCq5VmPe8nM-00055-00013126-00013305 example with a reduction of Bishop GCq5VmPe8nM-00056-00013306-00013469 Rick's and Archbishop Rick's but also GCq5VmPe8nM-00057-00013470-00013659 made changes to the leasing of church GCq5VmPe8nM-00058-00013660-00013850 lands which some including a number of GCq5VmPe8nM-00059-00013851-00014037 Whigs feared would result in a secular GCq5VmPe8nM-00060-00014038-00014285 appropriation of ecclesiastical property GCq5VmPe8nM-00061-00014286-00014562 John Keeble criticised these proposals GCq5VmPe8nM-00062-00014563-00014946 as national apostasy in his açaí sermon GCq5VmPe8nM-00063-00014947-00015252 in Oxford in 1833 the tract Ariens GCq5VmPe8nM-00064-00015253-00015510 criticised theological liberalism their GCq5VmPe8nM-00065-00015511-00015702 interest in Christian origins caused GCq5VmPe8nM-00066-00015703-00015846 some of them to reconsider the GCq5VmPe8nM-00067-00015847-00015993 relationship of the Church of England GCq5VmPe8nM-00068-00015994-00016316 with the Roman Catholic Church the tract GCq5VmPe8nM-00069-00016318-00016527 Ariens postulated the branch theory GCq5VmPe8nM-00070-00016528-00016725 which states that Anglicanism along with GCq5VmPe8nM-00071-00016726-00016947 orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism form GCq5VmPe8nM-00072-00016948-00017259 three branches of the historic Catholic GCq5VmPe8nM-00073-00017260-00017481 Church tract Ariens argued for the GCq5VmPe8nM-00074-00017482-00017678 inclusion of traditional aspects of GCq5VmPe8nM-00075-00017679-00017892 liturgy from medieval religious practice GCq5VmPe8nM-00076-00017893-00018060 as they believed the church had become GCq5VmPe8nM-00077-00018061-00018459 too plain in the final tract tract 90 GCq5VmPe8nM-00078-00018460-00018690 Newman argued that the doctrines of the GCq5VmPe8nM-00079-00018691-00018903 Roman Catholic Church as defined by the GCq5VmPe8nM-00080-00018904-00019100 Council of Trent were compatible with GCq5VmPe8nM-00081-00019101-00019299 the thirty-nine articles of the 16th GCq5VmPe8nM-00082-00019300-00019539 century Church of England Newman's GCq5VmPe8nM-00083-00019540-00019722 eventual reception into the Roman GCq5VmPe8nM-00084-00019723-00019992 Catholic Church in 1845 followed by GCq5VmPe8nM-00085-00019993-00020310 Henry Edward Manning in 1851 had a sound GCq5VmPe8nM-00086-00020311-00020932 effect upon the movement GCq5VmPe8nM-00087-00020933-00021486 topic publications GCq5VmPe8nM-00088-00021487-00021717 apart from the tracks for the times the GCq5VmPe8nM-00089-00021718-00021930 group began a collection of translations GCq5VmPe8nM-00090-00021931-00022097 of the Church Fathers which they termed GCq5VmPe8nM-00091-00022098-00022314 the library of the father's the GCq5VmPe8nM-00092-00022315-00022536 collection eventually comprised 48 GCq5VmPe8nM-00093-00022537-00022752 volumes the last published three years GCq5VmPe8nM-00094-00022753-00022992 after pew sees death they were issued GCq5VmPe8nM-00095-00022993-00023136 through Rivington s company with the GCq5VmPe8nM-00096-00023137-00023394 imprint of the Holyrood press the main GCq5VmPe8nM-00097-00023395-00023577 editor for many of these was Charles GCq5VmPe8nM-00098-00023578-00023835 Marriott a number of volumes of original GCq5VmPe8nM-00099-00023836-00024063 Greek and Latin texts was also published GCq5VmPe8nM-00100-00024064-00024308 one of the main contributions that GCq5VmPe8nM-00101-00024309-00024507 resulted from tract arianism as the GCq5VmPe8nM-00102-00024508-00024699 hemin book entitled hymns ancient and GCq5VmPe8nM-00103-00024700-00025455 modern which was published in 1861 GCq5VmPe8nM-00104-00025456-00026053 topic influence and criticism GCq5VmPe8nM-00105-00026054-00026293 the Oxford movement was criticized for GCq5VmPe8nM-00106-00026294-00026630 being a mere reminiscing tendency but it GCq5VmPe8nM-00107-00026631-00026783 began to influence the theory and GCq5VmPe8nM-00108-00026783-00027052 practice of anglicanism more broadly GCq5VmPe8nM-00109-00027052-00027277 paradoxically the Oxford movement was GCq5VmPe8nM-00110-00027278-00027520 also criticized for being both secretive GCq5VmPe8nM-00111-00027522-00027683 and collusive the Oxford movement GCq5VmPe8nM-00112-00027683-00027860 resulted in the establishment of GCq5VmPe8nM-00113-00027861-00028067 Anglican religious orders both of men GCq5VmPe8nM-00114-00028068-00028361 and of women it incorporated ideas and GCq5VmPe8nM-00115-00028362-00028546 practices related to the practice of GCq5VmPe8nM-00116-00028547-00028768 liturgy and ceremony to incorporate more GCq5VmPe8nM-00117-00028769-00028964 powerful emotional symbolism in the GCq5VmPe8nM-00118-00028964-00029221 church in particular it brought the GCq5VmPe8nM-00119-00029222-00029420 insights of the liturgical movement into GCq5VmPe8nM-00120-00029420-00029671 the life of the church its effects were GCq5VmPe8nM-00121-00029672-00029833 so widespread that the Eucharist GCq5VmPe8nM-00122-00029834-00030055 gradually became more central to worship GCq5VmPe8nM-00123-00030056-00030260 vestments became common and numerous GCq5VmPe8nM-00124-00030261-00030424 Roman Catholic practices were GCq5VmPe8nM-00125-00030425-00030680 reintroduced into worship this led to GCq5VmPe8nM-00126-00030681-00030862 controversies within churches that GCq5VmPe8nM-00127-00030863-00031055 resulted in court cases as in the GCq5VmPe8nM-00128-00031056-00031230 dispute about ritualism GCq5VmPe8nM-00129-00031231-00031474 partly because bishops refused to give GCq5VmPe8nM-00130-00031475-00031699 livings to tract Aryan priests many of GCq5VmPe8nM-00131-00031700-00031955 them began working in slums from their GCq5VmPe8nM-00132-00031956-00032146 new ministries they developed a critique GCq5VmPe8nM-00133-00032147-00032386 of British social policy both local and GCq5VmPe8nM-00134-00032387-00032624 national one of the results was the GCq5VmPe8nM-00135-00032625-00032807 establishment of the Christian social GCq5VmPe8nM-00136-00032808-00033020 Union of which a number of bishops were GCq5VmPe8nM-00137-00033021-00033218 members where issues such as the just GCq5VmPe8nM-00138-00033219-00033412 wage the system of property renting GCq5VmPe8nM-00139-00033413-00033599 infant mortality and industrial GCq5VmPe8nM-00140-00033600-00033833 conditions were debated the more radical GCq5VmPe8nM-00141-00033834-00034045 Catholic Crusade was a much smaller GCq5VmPe8nM-00142-00034046-00034270 organization than the Oxford movement GCq5VmPe8nM-00143-00034271-00034564 Anglo Catholicism as this complex of GCq5VmPe8nM-00144-00034565-00034817 ideas styles and organisations became GCq5VmPe8nM-00145-00034818-00035008 known had a significant influence on GCq5VmPe8nM-00146-00035009-00035621 global Anglicanism GCq5VmPe8nM-00147-00035622-00035915 topic end of Newman's involvement and GCq5VmPe8nM-00148-00035916-00036315 receptions into Roman Catholicism GCq5VmPe8nM-00149-00036316-00036482 you GCq5VmPe8nM-00150-00036483-00036674 one of the principle writers and GCq5VmPe8nM-00151-00036675-00036883 proponents of tracked arianism was John GCq5VmPe8nM-00152-00036884-00037136 Henry Newman a popular oxford priest who GCq5VmPe8nM-00153-00037137-00037364 after writing his final tract tracked GCq5VmPe8nM-00154-00037365-00037618 ninety became convinced that the branch GCq5VmPe8nM-00155-00037619-00037858 theory was inadequate concerns that GCq5VmPe8nM-00156-00037859-00038083 trekked arianism was a disguised Roman GCq5VmPe8nM-00157-00038084-00038276 Catholic movement were not unfounded GCq5VmPe8nM-00158-00038277-00038435 Newman believed that the Roman and GCq5VmPe8nM-00159-00038436-00038642 Anglican churches were wholly compatible GCq5VmPe8nM-00160-00038643-00038899 he was received into the Roman Catholic GCq5VmPe8nM-00161-00038900-00039146 Church in 1845 and was ordained a priest GCq5VmPe8nM-00162-00039147-00039418 of the church the same year he later GCq5VmPe8nM-00163-00039419-00039589 became a cardinal but not a bishop GCq5VmPe8nM-00164-00039590-00039845 riding on the end of trekked arianism as GCq5VmPe8nM-00165-00039846-00040067 a movement Newman stated I saw indeed GCq5VmPe8nM-00166-00040068-00040252 clearly that my place in the movement GCq5VmPe8nM-00167-00040253-00040483 was lost public confidence was at an end GCq5VmPe8nM-00168-00040484-00040777 my occupation was gone it was simply an GCq5VmPe8nM-00169-00040778-00040967 impossibility that I could say anything GCq5VmPe8nM-00170-00040968-00041177 henceforth to good effect when I had GCq5VmPe8nM-00171-00041178-00041348 been posted up by the marshal on the GCq5VmPe8nM-00172-00041349-00041521 buttery hatch of every college of my GCq5VmPe8nM-00173-00041522-00041729 University after the manner of dis come GCq5VmPe8nM-00174-00041730-00041936 and pastry cooks and when in every part GCq5VmPe8nM-00175-00041937-00042110 of the country in every class of society GCq5VmPe8nM-00176-00042111-00042340 through every organ and opportunity of GCq5VmPe8nM-00177-00042341-00042595 opinion in newspapers in periodicals at GCq5VmPe8nM-00178-00042596-00042839 meetings in pulpits at dinner tables in GCq5VmPe8nM-00179-00042840-00043085 coffee rooms in railway carriages I was GCq5VmPe8nM-00180-00043086-00043252 denounced as a traitor who had laid his GCq5VmPe8nM-00181-00043253-00043439 train and was detected in the very act GCq5VmPe8nM-00182-00043440-00043615 of firing it against the time-honored GCq5VmPe8nM-00183-00043616-00043870 establishment Newman was one of a number GCq5VmPe8nM-00184-00043871-00044071 of Anglican clergy who were received GCq5VmPe8nM-00185-00044072-00044261 into the Roman Catholic Church during GCq5VmPe8nM-00186-00044262-00044489 the 1840s who were either members of or GCq5VmPe8nM-00187-00044490-00044683 were influenced by trekked arianism GCq5VmPe8nM-00188-00044684-00044942 other people influenced by tract GCq5VmPe8nM-00189-00044943-00045161 arianism who became Roman Catholics GCq5VmPe8nM-00190-00045162-00045454 included Thomas William allies GCq5VmPe8nM-00191-00045455-00045683 ecclesiastical historian and Anglican GCq5VmPe8nM-00192-00045684-00045768 priest GCq5VmPe8nM-00193-00045769-00046101 Edward Baddeley ecclesiastical lawyer GCq5VmPe8nM-00194-00046102-00046424 Robert Hugh Benson son of the Archbishop GCq5VmPe8nM-00195-00046425-00046674 of Canterbury novelist and Monsignor GCq5VmPe8nM-00196-00046675-00046999 John Chapman patristic scholar and Roman GCq5VmPe8nM-00197-00047000-00047149 Catholic priest GCq5VmPe8nM-00198-00047150-00047411 Augusta Theodosia drain writer and GCq5VmPe8nM-00199-00047412-00047562 Dominican Prioress GCq5VmPe8nM-00200-00047563-00047849 Frederick William Faber theologian hymn GCq5VmPe8nM-00201-00047850-00048076 writer orator Ian and Roman Catholic GCq5VmPe8nM-00202-00048077-00048162 priest GCq5VmPe8nM-00203-00048163-00048464 Robert Steven Hawker poet and Anglican GCq5VmPe8nM-00204-00048465-00048670 priest became a Roman Catholic on his GCq5VmPe8nM-00205-00048671-00048757 deathbed GCq5VmPe8nM-00206-00048758-00049039 James hope Scot barrister and tract GCq5VmPe8nM-00207-00049040-00049257 Aryan received with Manny GCq5VmPe8nM-00208-00049258-00049539 Gerard Manley Hopkins poet and Jesuit GCq5VmPe8nM-00209-00049540-00049624 priest GCq5VmPe8nM-00210-00049625-00049943 Ronald Knox biblical text translator and GCq5VmPe8nM-00211-00049944-00050080 Anglican priest GCq5VmPe8nM-00212-00050081-00050339 Thomas Cooper mackensen's Anglican GCq5VmPe8nM-00213-00050340-00050429 priest GCq5VmPe8nM-00214-00050430-00050696 Henry Edward Manning later cardinal GCq5VmPe8nM-00215-00050697-00050876 archbishop of westminster GCq5VmPe8nM-00216-00050877-00051177 st. george jackson millard biologist GCq5VmPe8nM-00217-00051178-00051380 later interdicted by cardinal herbert GCq5VmPe8nM-00218-00051382-00051442 von GCq5VmPe8nM-00219-00051444-00051788 john brand morris orientalist eccentric GCq5VmPe8nM-00220-00051789-00051994 and roman catholic priest GCq5VmPe8nM-00221-00051995-00052379 augustus pew jian architect Richard SIPP GCq5VmPe8nM-00222-00052380-00052578 Thorpe Anglican and sometime Roman GCq5VmPe8nM-00223-00052579-00052769 Catholic priest the first to convert GCq5VmPe8nM-00224-00052770-00053075 later reconverted William George Ward GCq5VmPe8nM-00225-00053076-00053662 theologian GCq5VmPe8nM-00226-00053663-00053953 topic others associated with trekked GCq5VmPe8nM-00227-00053954-00054347 arianism GCq5VmPe8nM-00228-00054348-00054734 equals equals see also GCVcsOcOejk-00000-00000239-00001491 [Music] GCVcsOcOejk-00001-00001492-00002902 foreign GCVcsOcOejk-00005-00025899-00026898 [Applause] GCVcsOcOejk-00006-00026899-00029483 [Music] GCVcsOcOejk-00007-00029483-00030883 foreign GCVcsOcOejk-00008-00030883-00031636 foreign GCVcsOcOejk-00009-00031637-00032295 [Music] GCVcsOcOejk-00010-00032295-00033832 the lord GG7-1JrqyPU-00000-00000074-00001090 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00002-00005657-00006052 realto your girl's hats it look look GG7-1JrqyPU-00003-00006053-00006100 look GG7-1JrqyPU-00004-00006101-00006439 but I'd get gifts I got gifts I can't GG7-1JrqyPU-00005-00006440-00006789 get there go one over there look at it GG7-1JrqyPU-00006-00006790-00007242 look at it look look GG7-1JrqyPU-00007-00007243-00007855 one little else I work a little else my GG7-1JrqyPU-00008-00007856-00008194 little elves looking blue he'll pick up GG7-1JrqyPU-00009-00008195-00009233 all the oil look say happy yeah GG7-1JrqyPU-00010-00009234-00009552 that's my other gift that's my other GG7-1JrqyPU-00011-00009553-00010237 gift my girls are here GG7-1JrqyPU-00012-00010238-00011351 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00013-00011352-00012545 that's Larry's pop oh yeah GG7-1JrqyPU-00014-00012546-00012884 let that bag with the ribbon GG7-1JrqyPU-00015-00012885-00014426 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00016-00014427-00015921 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00017-00015922-00016992 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00018-00016993-00017150 and look cute are you GG7-1JrqyPU-00019-00017151-00017895 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00020-00017896-00018498 Oh Oh GG7-1JrqyPU-00021-00018499-00018870 that's a nice coat GG7-1JrqyPU-00022-00018871-00020971 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00023-00020972-00021472 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00024-00021473-00022579 I guess our job now is that ready okay GG7-1JrqyPU-00025-00022580-00023169 you're gonna go grab some stuff I need GG7-1JrqyPU-00026-00023170-00023621 for yesterday see your name on it GG7-1JrqyPU-00027-00023622-00024928 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00028-00024929-00025744 you see me Batman paper yeah you desk GG7-1JrqyPU-00029-00025745-00025852 that's yours GG7-1JrqyPU-00030-00025854-00027629 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00031-00027630-00029685 yeah oh nice I like the color and GG7-1JrqyPU-00032-00029686-00030332 everything you like GG7-1JrqyPU-00033-00030333-00031191 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00034-00031192-00031608 wasn't enough you should marry money I GG7-1JrqyPU-00035-00031608-00032533 have romantic jamya opinion you should GG7-1JrqyPU-00036-00032533-00032718 have another Batman paper GG7-1JrqyPU-00037-00032719-00033337 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00038-00033338-00033610 yeah GG7-1JrqyPU-00039-00033611-00035169 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00040-00035170-00037821 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00041-00037822-00038814 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00042-00038815-00039703 you'll be stabbed a man GG7-1JrqyPU-00043-00039704-00040955 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00044-00040956-00041429 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00045-00041430-00041869 and I had no vote for Lance dad this GG7-1JrqyPU-00046-00041870-00042176 someone else GG7-1JrqyPU-00047-00042177-00042497 with this troll GG7-1JrqyPU-00048-00042498-00044280 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00049-00044281-00044858 it's like a treasure hunt do GG7-1JrqyPU-00050-00044859-00046035 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00051-00046036-00046357 mama GG7-1JrqyPU-00052-00046358-00047127 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00053-00047128-00048795 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00054-00048796-00049524 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00055-00049525-00049691 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00056-00049692-00050046 this breather this USA I saw was GG7-1JrqyPU-00057-00050047-00050400 specially created ain't a maybe a GG7-1JrqyPU-00058-00050401-00050598 Christmas season be wonderful and bright GG7-1JrqyPU-00059-00050599-00050778 Merry Christmas Merry Christmas GG7-1JrqyPU-00062-00058059-00059014 this - oh I think this is it baby that's GG7-1JrqyPU-00063-00059015-00059980 from you not for you huh it's not for GG7-1JrqyPU-00064-00059982-00060280 you don't say for your brother from AJ GG7-1JrqyPU-00065-00060282-00060824 and Mellon say is for me from you when GG7-1JrqyPU-00066-00060825-00061414 we open it now GG7-1JrqyPU-00067-00061415-00062047 [Applause] GG7-1JrqyPU-00068-00062048-00062561 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00069-00062562-00063857 thank you baby mama look what I got for GG7-1JrqyPU-00070-00063858-00064567 me GG7-1JrqyPU-00071-00064569-00065915 oh that's for my mom I hope you I got GG7-1JrqyPU-00072-00065916-00066593 you somethin our plane don't put these GG7-1JrqyPU-00073-00066594-00069273 back on the Super Mario GG7-1JrqyPU-00074-00069274-00071121 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00075-00071122-00072807 [Applause] GG7-1JrqyPU-00076-00072808-00073054 this is my Christmas present from her GG7-1JrqyPU-00077-00073055-00073171 tomorrow GG7-1JrqyPU-00078-00073172-00075124 you wait woman okay oh you like you miss GG7-1JrqyPU-00079-00075125-00075274 it baby did you soon as your head GG7-1JrqyPU-00080-00075275-00075364 downstairs GG7-1JrqyPU-00081-00075365-00077095 I think this ended and put another GG7-1JrqyPU-00082-00077096-00077837 charge because he left it aside GG7-1JrqyPU-00083-00077838-00077877 [Applause] GG7-1JrqyPU-00084-00077878-00078020 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00085-00078021-00078231 [Applause] GG7-1JrqyPU-00086-00078232-00079214 Oh one cheap either GG7-1JrqyPU-00087-00079215-00079824 shave it just oh look it's got a charm GG7-1JrqyPU-00088-00079825-00079911 on it GG7-1JrqyPU-00089-00079912-00080322 no that's how you adjust it always got GG7-1JrqyPU-00090-00080323-00080922 the clothes oh my god it's blinking oh GG7-1JrqyPU-00091-00080923-00081095 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00092-00081096-00081338 thank you baby GG7-1JrqyPU-00093-00081339-00081801 mom oh my gosh I witness today because I GG7-1JrqyPU-00094-00081802-00082944 love sunrise shot a bit okay GG7-1JrqyPU-00095-00082945-00083543 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00096-00083544-00085411 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00097-00085412-00086689 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00098-00086690-00087506 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00099-00087507-00088028 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00100-00088029-00088872 although they J over gosh oh this is GG7-1JrqyPU-00101-00088873-00089022 beautiful GG7-1JrqyPU-00102-00089023-00089554 it comes with a bling-bling charm young GG7-1JrqyPU-00103-00089555-00090818 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00104-00090819-00090935 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00105-00090936-00091842 mrs. Liu is no good yeah that's what I GG7-1JrqyPU-00106-00091843-00092220 was gonna let it was not smell very much GG7-1JrqyPU-00107-00092221-00092670 oh it smells sweet like it miss Mike it GG7-1JrqyPU-00108-00092671-00092772 ain't heavy GG7-1JrqyPU-00109-00092773-00093554 I dig it hey good morning Mary kisses oh GG7-1JrqyPU-00110-00093555-00093764 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00111-00093765-00094188 yes look you come with this and and she GG7-1JrqyPU-00112-00094189-00094620 got this for me look at that bling-bling GG7-1JrqyPU-00113-00094621-00095086 this is deadly GG7-1JrqyPU-00114-00095087-00096005 yeah I'm wearing this today and it it GG7-1JrqyPU-00115-00096006-00096512 judge oh so then the man that the jury GG7-1JrqyPU-00116-00096513-00096767 come here to show me how to work it okay GG7-1JrqyPU-00117-00096768-00097054 that she can't be pleased to be below me GG7-1JrqyPU-00118-00097055-00097334 no see look this cool right part of our GG7-1JrqyPU-00119-00097335-00098405 you it just just see that my gosh will GG7-1JrqyPU-00120-00098406-00101216 see a young guy wake up mind GG7-1JrqyPU-00121-00101217-00101455 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00122-00101456-00101759 yeah let him sleep girl cuz he gonna GG7-1JrqyPU-00123-00101760-00102112 wake up cranky GG7-1JrqyPU-00124-00102113-00102394 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00125-00102395-00102739 [Applause] GG7-1JrqyPU-00126-00102740-00103628 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00127-00103629-00103952 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00128-00103953-00104526 why is it facing me why is it facing me GG7-1JrqyPU-00129-00104527-00105029 oh is it recording GG7-1JrqyPU-00130-00105030-00105730 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00131-00105731-00106490 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00132-00106491-00106542 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00133-00106543-00106786 [Applause] GG7-1JrqyPU-00134-00106788-00107449 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00135-00107450-00108583 how you flip this over in their time GG7-1JrqyPU-00136-00108583-00108973 yeah yeah we don't have to edit it out GG7-1JrqyPU-00137-00108974-00110345 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00138-00110346-00111045 [Applause] GG7-1JrqyPU-00139-00111046-00111911 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00140-00111913-00112006 [Applause] GG7-1JrqyPU-00142-00116371-00117124 like that GG7-1JrqyPU-00144-00122108-00125080 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00145-00125081-00125941 [Applause] GG7-1JrqyPU-00147-00134298-00135841 [Applause] GG7-1JrqyPU-00148-00135842-00138247 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00150-00141886-00142111 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00151-00142112-00143387 [Applause] GG7-1JrqyPU-00152-00143388-00143464 [Applause] GG7-1JrqyPU-00153-00143465-00144565 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00154-00144566-00145094 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00155-00145095-00147290 [Applause] GG7-1JrqyPU-00156-00147291-00148261 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00157-00148262-00148401 [Applause] GG7-1JrqyPU-00158-00148402-00150342 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00159-00150343-00152835 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00160-00152836-00153696 [Applause] GG7-1JrqyPU-00162-00162053-00163043 [Applause] GG7-1JrqyPU-00163-00163044-00164741 say hi guys alright guys so we are GG7-1JrqyPU-00164-00164742-00165116 getting ready to sit down for Christmas GG7-1JrqyPU-00165-00165117-00165593 dinner I got my daughter's here I got my GG7-1JrqyPU-00166-00165594-00166004 close friends here and I just wanted to GG7-1JrqyPU-00167-00166005-00166393 show you guys what the layout looks like GG7-1JrqyPU-00168-00166394-00166847 we get the hem right here candy yams GG7-1JrqyPU-00169-00166848-00167860 greens some mac salad gravy some GG7-1JrqyPU-00170-00167861-00168548 cranberry sauce we have some air fried GG7-1JrqyPU-00171-00168549-00169201 pork chops some chicken baked chicken GG7-1JrqyPU-00172-00169202-00169835 potato salad the dressing so we are GG7-1JrqyPU-00173-00169836-00170270 getting ready to grub and I just wanted GG7-1JrqyPU-00174-00170271-00170520 to come in real quick GG7-1JrqyPU-00175-00170521-00170652 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00176-00170653-00171114 and say Merry Christmas to you guys and GG7-1JrqyPU-00177-00171115-00171384 I hope you guys had a very Merry GG7-1JrqyPU-00178-00171385-00171537 Christmas as well GG7-1JrqyPU-00180-00177658-00180629 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00181-00180630-00181490 [Applause] GG7-1JrqyPU-00183-00189847-00191823 [Applause] GG7-1JrqyPU-00185-00195216-00195309 [Applause] GG7-1JrqyPU-00186-00195310-00198147 [Music] GG7-1JrqyPU-00187-00198148-00198354 you GIZGg2e4534-00000-00000302-00001007 [Music] GIZGg2e4534-00001-00001008-00001431 i wonder what life is like in the city GIZGg2e4534-00002-00001432-00001734 do they have parties there GIZGg2e4534-00003-00001735-00002063 dances GIZGg2e4534-00004-00002064-00002255 maybe it's pretty much the same as it is GIZGg2e4534-00005-00002256-00002510 here GIZGg2e4534-00006-00002511-00002910 are there ghosts there too GIZGg2e4534-00007-00002911-00003454 or is everyone alive GIZGg2e4534-00008-00003455-00003620 oh hey you're back GIZGg2e4534-00009-00003621-00003854 [Music] GIZGg2e4534-00010-00003855-00004086 i didn't think i'd see you again the GIZGg2e4534-00011-00004087-00004463 woods are super dangerous GIZGg2e4534-00012-00004464-00004679 actually i kind of think you'd be dead GIZGg2e4534-00013-00004680-00004822 by now GIZGg2e4534-00014-00004823-00005070 i'm so glad you're not though you're GIZGg2e4534-00015-00005071-00005238 the only person who ever visits me GIZGg2e4534-00016-00005239-00005470 anymore GIZGg2e4534-00017-00005471-00005814 the only one who's alive anyway GIZGg2e4534-00018-00005815-00006063 [Music] GIZGg2e4534-00019-00006064-00006247 i like the living GIZGg2e4534-00020-00006248-00006527 they have so much energy GIZGg2e4534-00021-00006528-00006927 she wanted feet or whatever GIZGg2e4534-00022-00006928-00007295 i wish i could be like that it's just GIZGg2e4534-00023-00007295-00007463 hard to get too worked up about stuff GIZGg2e4534-00024-00007464-00007567 when your GIZGg2e4534-00025-00007568-00008191 body's clocked out you know GIZGg2e4534-00026-00008192-00008399 well i guess you'll understand sooner or GIZGg2e4534-00027-00008400-00008540 later GIZGg2e4534-00028-00008541-00008759 [Music] GIZGg2e4534-00029-00008760-00008895 listen to me GIZGg2e4534-00030-00008896-00009287 i'm such a downer lately GIZGg2e4534-00031-00009288-00009510 hey um why don't we put something on the GIZGg2e4534-00032-00009511-00009646 tv GIZGg2e4534-00033-00009647-00009863 i'll make drinks GIZGg2e4534-00034-00009864-00010119 what's your poison my margarita can GIZGg2e4534-00035-00010120-00010335 raise the dead GIZGg2e4534-00036-00010336-00010414 well GIZGg2e4534-00037-00010415-00010611 figuratively anyway GIZGg2e4534-00038-00010612-00012438 [Music] GIZGg2e4534-00039-00012439-00012703 jenny GIZGg2e4534-00040-00012704-00013158 in the silver sun dress GIZGg2e4534-00041-00013159-00013558 turning slowly in a smoky room under GIZGg2e4534-00042-00013559-00013919 flashing lights GIZGg2e4534-00043-00013919-00014327 i could hardly hear the music GIZGg2e4534-00044-00014328-00014783 but it must have been something good GIZGg2e4534-00045-00014784-00015063 cause it 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you leaned in to say GIZGg2e4534-00062-00022431-00022647 there's no stranger GIZGg2e4534-00063-00022648-00022886 [Music] GIZGg2e4534-00064-00022887-00023053 than stranger love GIZGg2e4534-00065-00023054-00023247 [Music] GIZGg2e4534-00066-00023248-00023463 there's no stranger love GIZGg2e4534-00067-00023464-00023703 [Music] GIZGg2e4534-00068-00023704-00024142 than stranger love GIZGg2e4534-00069-00024143-00024519 i don't know if it's making me drown GIZGg2e4534-00070-00024520-00024999 or if it's the only thing that keeps GIZGg2e4534-00071-00025000-00025825 my only hope for love GIZGg2e4534-00072-00025826-00026558 [Music] GIZGg2e4534-00073-00026560-00026862 but when we locked eyes i knew you could GIZGg2e4534-00074-00026863-00027343 make all of my dreams come true GIZGg2e4534-00075-00027344-00027767 in the backseat of an uber GIZGg2e4534-00076-00027768-00028214 you showed me your tattoo GIZGg2e4534-00077-00028216-00028543 and it felt like waking up from a dream 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GIZGg2e4534-00128-00052232-00052439 you GJ6yfHF02IQ-00000-00000088-00000262 welcome to the presentation of the GJ6yfHF02IQ-00001-00000263-00000447 stm32l4 GJ6yfHF02IQ-00002-00000448-00000774 direct memory access or dma controller GJ6yfHF02IQ-00003-00000775-00000950 it covers the main features of this GJ6yfHF02IQ-00004-00000951-00001183 module which is widely used to handle GJ6yfHF02IQ-00005-00001184-00001587 the stm32 peripheral data transfers GJ6yfHF02IQ-00006-00001588-00001879 tm-32l4 has two direct memory access GJ6yfHF02IQ-00007-00001880-00002087 controllers designed to efficiently GJ6yfHF02IQ-00008-00002088-00002318 support data transfers from peripherals GJ6yfHF02IQ-00009-00002319-00002550 and memories without any loading on the GJ6yfHF02IQ-00010-00002551-00002679 cpu GJ6yfHF02IQ-00011-00002680-00002855 the dma controllers are fully GJ6yfHF02IQ-00012-00002856-00003071 configurable and manage hardware and GJ6yfHF02IQ-00013-00003072-00003319 software priorities between channels as 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GJ6yfHF02IQ-00056-00013423-00013647 peripheral the hardware request coming GJ6yfHF02IQ-00057-00013647-00013838 from the selected peripheral is used to GJ6yfHF02IQ-00058-00013840-00014030 trigger the data transfer GJ6yfHF02IQ-00059-00014031-00014230 once the transfer is completed the GJ6yfHF02IQ-00060-00014231-00014483 request is acknowledged GJ6yfHF02IQ-00061-00014484-00014766 stm32l4 implements two instances of the GJ6yfHF02IQ-00062-00014768-00015047 dma with seven channels each GJ6yfHF02IQ-00063-00015047-00015279 dma1 peripheral requests are mapped GJ6yfHF02IQ-00064-00015280-00015438 through a multiplexer for each GJ6yfHF02IQ-00065-00015440-00015735 corresponding channel each channel has a GJ6yfHF02IQ-00066-00015736-00015975 fixed group of peripheral requests and GJ6yfHF02IQ-00067-00015976-00016175 the multiplexer allows only one GJ6yfHF02IQ-00068-00016176-00016430 peripheral request for each channel the GJ6yfHF02IQ-00069-00016431-00016703 dma2 controller also provides access to GJ6yfHF02IQ-00070-00016704-00016903 seven channels with independent GJ6yfHF02IQ-00071-00016904-00017143 multiplexers for each channel GJ6yfHF02IQ-00072-00017144-00017319 some of the peripheral requests are GJ6yfHF02IQ-00073-00017320-00017607 similar to the dma1 but there are unique GJ6yfHF02IQ-00074-00017608-00017807 peripheral requests as well GJ6yfHF02IQ-00075-00017808-00018379 for example tim 5 tim 8 lpu art GJ6yfHF02IQ-00076-00018380-00019047 swmpi1 uart4 uart5 and aes GJ6yfHF02IQ-00077-00019048-00019271 dma channel is designed with this group GJ6yfHF02IQ-00078-00019272-00019511 of interrupt events the half transfer GJ6yfHF02IQ-00079-00019512-00019727 interrupt flag is set when half the data GJ6yfHF02IQ-00080-00019728-00019943 has been transferred the transfer GJ6yfHF02IQ-00081-00019944-00020127 complete flag is set when the transfer GJ6yfHF02IQ-00082-00020128-00020391 is complete the transfer error flag is GJ6yfHF02IQ-00083-00020392-00020607 set when an error occurs during the data GJ6yfHF02IQ-00084-00020608-00020711 transfer GJ6yfHF02IQ-00085-00020712-00020886 the global interrupt flag is set GJ6yfHF02IQ-00086-00020887-00021111 whenever a half transfer a transfer GJ6yfHF02IQ-00087-00021112-00021471 complete or a full transfer event occurs GJ6yfHF02IQ-00088-00021472-00021839 cma is active in run sleep low power run GJ6yfHF02IQ-00089-00021840-00022030 and low power sleep mode GJ6yfHF02IQ-00090-00022031-00022407 dma interrupts will wake the stm32l4 GJ6yfHF02IQ-00091-00022408-00022678 from sleep and low power sleep modes GJ6yfHF02IQ-00092-00022679-00022958 in stop mode the dma is stopped and the GJ6yfHF02IQ-00093-00022959-00023167 contents of the dma registers are GJ6yfHF02IQ-00094-00023168-00023447 retained the dma is powered down in GJ6yfHF02IQ-00095-00023448-00023742 standby and shutdown modes and the dma GJ6yfHF02IQ-00096-00023743-00023999 registers must be re-initialized after GJ6yfHF02IQ-00097-00024000-00024487 exiting standby or shutdown mode GKpaMNXFGau-00000-00000026-00000377 hi hair mr. prank who is a delegate in GKpaMNXFGau-00001-00000378-00000730 our discuss agile daily conflict 2019 so GKpaMNXFGau-00002-00000731-00000903 bring I just want you to share your GKpaMNXFGau-00003-00000905-00001295 experience for like till now okay thanks GKpaMNXFGau-00004-00001296-00001445 for inviting me for attending this GKpaMNXFGau-00005-00001446-00001735 workshop today I met a lot of people GKpaMNXFGau-00006-00001736-00002072 here who are really a big enthusiastics GKpaMNXFGau-00007-00002073-00002324 and I also met a lot few more GKpaMNXFGau-00008-00002325-00002483 participants for my batch also when I am GKpaMNXFGau-00009-00002484-00002672 earlier associated with horizon GKpaMNXFGau-00010-00002673-00002972 and this workshop is really really GKpaMNXFGau-00011-00002973-00003179 knowledgeable for me and other people GKpaMNXFGau-00012-00003180-00003386 who are sharing the experiences as well GKpaMNXFGau-00013-00003386-00003575 as the speaker sessions which has I have GKpaMNXFGau-00014-00003576-00003779 attended so far until now I ever ended GKpaMNXFGau-00015-00003779-00003965 the three speaker sessions and one of my GKpaMNXFGau-00016-00003965-00004240 colleague mr. per Windsor who is also my GKpaMNXFGau-00017-00004241-00004568 colleague at Accenture so this really GKpaMNXFGau-00018-00004569-00004711 gives me an immense learning by GKpaMNXFGau-00019-00004712-00004949 attending this workshop okay so any GKpaMNXFGau-00020-00004950-00005192 specific talk you want any specific you GKpaMNXFGau-00021-00005193-00005401 talk you like like you want to share I GKpaMNXFGau-00022-00005402-00005627 today I came to know about the one GKpaMNXFGau-00023-00005628-00005924 technique which is she at HQ ideation GKpaMNXFGau-00024-00005925-00006074 technique which was I was not aware of GKpaMNXFGau-00025-00006075-00006623 at all okay yeah I have ended so any GKpaMNXFGau-00026-00006623-00006830 other thing you want to share about this GKpaMNXFGau-00027-00006831-00007096 conference and anything else one thing I GKpaMNXFGau-00028-00007097-00007295 would like to share is that please GKpaMNXFGau-00029-00007295-00007553 conduct such conferences at least or GKpaMNXFGau-00030-00007554-00007795 twice in a month or once in a choir once GKpaMNXFGau-00031-00007797-00007984 in a quarter so that people will feel GKpaMNXFGau-00032-00007986-00008156 free to share their learning and GKpaMNXFGau-00033-00008156-00008324 experiences and we will be able to GKpaMNXFGau-00034-00008325-00008549 develop a healthy networking among GKpaMNXFGau-00035-00008550-00008759 ourselves and you know takeaways with GKpaMNXFGau-00036-00008760-00009128 the conference it's really good for me GKpaMNXFGau-00037-00009129-00009269 as well as all the people who are GKpaMNXFGau-00038-00009270-00009413 attending to that and I wish you all the GKpaMNXFGau-00039-00009414-00009581 very best for the highs and bridge okay GKpaMNXFGau-00040-00009582-00009746 thank you very much Ian for sharing your GKpaMNXFGau-00041-00009747-00009896 thoughts thank you thank you for GKpaMNXFGau-00042-00009897-00010064 attending the conference thank you so GKpaMNXFGau-00043-00010065-00010282 much GMzZwexXp34-00000-00000000-00000223 so once again good morning GMzZwexXp34-00001-00000224-00000623 so today we will be doing uh unit 4 and GMzZwexXp34-00002-00000624-00000862 i hope all of you are having your study GMzZwexXp34-00003-00000863-00001087 material with you so that you can you GMzZwexXp34-00004-00001088-00001374 know go through what i'm talking about GMzZwexXp34-00005-00001375-00001614 uh so we'll start with the introduction GMzZwexXp34-00006-00001616-00001991 see the unit 4 talks about or gives an GMzZwexXp34-00007-00001992-00002407 idea of 9001 that is an overview it is GMzZwexXp34-00008-00002408-00002734 basically the complete series of 9000. 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GMzZwexXp34-00097-00026456-00026614 you know anything GMzZwexXp34-00098-00026616-00026951 a good brand of phone or a good brand of GMzZwexXp34-00099-00026952-00027046 even GMzZwexXp34-00100-00027047-00027318 glasses sunglasses we have a feeling GMzZwexXp34-00101-00027319-00027599 that even if we pay a higher price for GMzZwexXp34-00102-00027600-00027670 it GMzZwexXp34-00103-00027672-00027951 we are it is worth for the price giving GMzZwexXp34-00104-00027952-00028199 why because we have it is a common GMzZwexXp34-00105-00028200-00028407 belief that the quality GMzZwexXp34-00106-00028408-00028631 will be there when it is branded the GMzZwexXp34-00107-00028632-00028918 quality is there and all these brands GMzZwexXp34-00108-00028919-00029431 from where do they get the uh the GMzZwexXp34-00109-00029432-00029679 from where do they get the you know the GMzZwexXp34-00110-00029680-00029958 market value and the brand uh this thing GMzZwexXp34-00111-00029960-00030151 it's all because of the quality that GMzZwexXp34-00112-00030152-00030462 they are maintaining GMzZwexXp34-00113-00030463-00030711 right it is the quality and from where GMzZwexXp34-00114-00030712-00031055 does this quality come it cannot come GMzZwexXp34-00115-00031056-00031446 on its own you have to uh set up certain GMzZwexXp34-00116-00031447-00031623 uh you know GMzZwexXp34-00117-00031624-00031870 standards for that and when an GMzZwexXp34-00118-00031872-00032118 organization there are people working in GMzZwexXp34-00119-00032119-00032302 different levels and different GMzZwexXp34-00120-00032303-00032646 activities are performed by each group GMzZwexXp34-00121-00032647-00032927 you cannot expect that GMzZwexXp34-00122-00032928-00033167 without any um GMzZwexXp34-00123-00033168-00033311 you know GMzZwexXp34-00124-00033312-00033439 written down GMzZwexXp34-00125-00033440-00033846 policies or a set of policies all of the GMzZwexXp34-00126-00033847-00034167 people will work in harmony and in a GMzZwexXp34-00127-00034168-00034479 planned and a very organized manner and GMzZwexXp34-00128-00034480-00034727 a quality product will come no GMzZwexXp34-00129-00034728-00035143 only if a standard is there put in place GMzZwexXp34-00130-00035144-00035462 and all the members of the organization GMzZwexXp34-00131-00035463-00035718 they follow that then only a quality GMzZwexXp34-00132-00035719-00036127 product comes out it is like uh you know GMzZwexXp34-00133-00036128-00036430 saying um if you take an example of a GMzZwexXp34-00134-00036431-00036783 very simple example of the march parade GMzZwexXp34-00135-00036784-00036990 and all which takes place in you know GMzZwexXp34-00136-00036991-00037351 january 26th in delhi you will see that GMzZwexXp34-00137-00037352-00037687 so many uh groups of people they come GMzZwexXp34-00138-00037688-00037911 out with their tableaus their floats GMzZwexXp34-00139-00037912-00038215 every state represents it so how does GMzZwexXp34-00140-00038216-00038518 that happen only if it is well planned GMzZwexXp34-00141-00038519-00038759 everyone is organized they follow the GMzZwexXp34-00142-00038760-00039030 plan they do it and only then the GMzZwexXp34-00143-00039031-00039390 quality program comes out similarly in GMzZwexXp34-00144-00039391-00039687 an organization where people are working GMzZwexXp34-00145-00039688-00039967 in different levels and doing different GMzZwexXp34-00146-00039968-00040255 activities a standard effect is put in GMzZwexXp34-00147-00040256-00040615 place then the quality of the overall GMzZwexXp34-00148-00040616-00040918 organization of the product and and also GMzZwexXp34-00149-00040919-00041167 their policies and their achievements it GMzZwexXp34-00150-00041168-00041407 increases so that's how that is the GMzZwexXp34-00151-00041408-00041590 importance of GMzZwexXp34-00152-00041591-00041815 a standard a management standard quality GMzZwexXp34-00153-00041816-00042127 management standard being put in place GMzZwexXp34-00154-00042128-00042511 now iso 9000 as we already said if we GMzZwexXp34-00155-00042512-00042862 can just quickly recall what is ixo 9000 GMzZwexXp34-00156-00042863-00043095 it is a family of standard it is a set GMzZwexXp34-00157-00043096-00043407 of standards and a set of standards GMzZwexXp34-00158-00043408-00043758 which is covering 99 000 as well as 14 GMzZwexXp34-00159-00043759-00044055 000 which is covering various kinds of GMzZwexXp34-00160-00044056-00044295 quality management system and 14 000 is GMzZwexXp34-00161-00044296-00044583 what yesterday we said that it is GMzZwexXp34-00162-00044584-00044767 environment management GMzZwexXp34-00163-00044768-00045087 system 14 000 is environment management GMzZwexXp34-00164-00045088-00045239 and these two GMzZwexXp34-00165-00045240-00045567 are known as generic management system GMzZwexXp34-00166-00045568-00045711 standards GMzZwexXp34-00167-00045712-00045967 it is called generic why is it called GMzZwexXp34-00168-00045968-00046239 generic management system standards the GMzZwexXp34-00169-00046240-00046567 reason is because it is the term generic GMzZwexXp34-00170-00046568-00046815 means it is general GMzZwexXp34-00171-00046816-00047118 which means it can be applied to any GMzZwexXp34-00172-00047119-00047471 organization large or small whatever is GMzZwexXp34-00173-00047472-00047751 its product including whether it's GMzZwexXp34-00174-00047752-00048086 product or is actually a service or any GMzZwexXp34-00175-00048087-00048311 sector of activity whether it's a GMzZwexXp34-00176-00048312-00048511 business enterprise a public GMzZwexXp34-00177-00048512-00048662 administration GMzZwexXp34-00178-00048663-00048886 or a government department GMzZwexXp34-00179-00048887-00049279 so the generic means it is in general it GMzZwexXp34-00180-00049280-00049567 can be applied to any organization it GMzZwexXp34-00181-00049568-00049807 need not be a food industry it is not GMzZwexXp34-00182-00049808-00050046 specific for a particular type of GMzZwexXp34-00183-00050047-00050311 service which is provided it can be GMzZwexXp34-00184-00050312-00050535 applied to all GMzZwexXp34-00185-00050536-00050935 and the basic operating principle in all GMzZwexXp34-00186-00050936-00051167 these systems is GMzZwexXp34-00187-00051168-00051319 plan GMzZwexXp34-00188-00051320-00051407 do GMzZwexXp34-00189-00051408-00051599 check and act GMzZwexXp34-00190-00051600-00051902 this is the general methodology applied GMzZwexXp34-00191-00051903-00052150 that we have seen yesterday the units GMzZwexXp34-00192-00052151-00052423 with where we have covered planning GMzZwexXp34-00193-00052424-00052638 doing checking and acting GMzZwexXp34-00194-00052639-00053015 pdca that will be the basic principle GMzZwexXp34-00195-00053016-00053303 behind all these uh GMzZwexXp34-00196-00053304-00053615 systems now a brief history is given in GMzZwexXp34-00197-00053616-00053815 your study material you can go through GMzZwexXp34-00198-00053816-00054063 that history and how it has been done i GMzZwexXp34-00199-00054064-00054311 don't think we should base time on you GMzZwexXp34-00200-00054312-00054511 know going through the history of it GMzZwexXp34-00201-00054512-00054887 instead the 2000 version that is the iso GMzZwexXp34-00202-00054888-00055359 9001 2000 combines the standards 9001 GMzZwexXp34-00203-00055360-00055942 9002 and 9003 into one called 9001 2000. 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GMzZwexXp34-00279-00074360-00074582 if i'm sure you are you could have GMzZwexXp34-00280-00074583-00074806 opened already unit 4 GMzZwexXp34-00281-00074807-00074887 and GMzZwexXp34-00282-00074888-00075119 it is in page number 10 GMzZwexXp34-00283-00075120-00075279 the principles GMzZwexXp34-00284-00075280-00075559 there are eight principles of GMzZwexXp34-00285-00075560-00075743 quality management GMzZwexXp34-00286-00075744-00075982 what are the eight principles GMzZwexXp34-00287-00075983-00076406 first principle is customer focus GMzZwexXp34-00288-00076407-00076687 second principle is leadership GMzZwexXp34-00289-00076688-00076982 third is involvement of people GMzZwexXp34-00290-00076983-00077382 fourth is process approach GMzZwexXp34-00291-00077383-00077575 fifth is the system approach to GMzZwexXp34-00292-00077576-00077759 management GMzZwexXp34-00293-00077760-00078071 sixth one is the continual improvement GMzZwexXp34-00294-00078072-00078271 seventh is structural approach to 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in the GMzZwexXp34-00355-00093351-00093647 policies in implementation of a policy GMzZwexXp34-00356-00093648-00093887 and the system GMzZwexXp34-00357-00093888-00094118 and what is the key benefit people will GMzZwexXp34-00358-00094119-00094326 understand and be motivated towards the GMzZwexXp34-00359-00094327-00094735 organization both and everyone all the GMzZwexXp34-00360-00094736-00095047 staff they will work together GMzZwexXp34-00361-00095048-00095374 and GMzZwexXp34-00362-00095375-00095679 they can work together and achieve GMzZwexXp34-00363-00095680-00096335 the goal GMzZwexXp34-00364-00096336-00096559 and when there is a good leadership the GMzZwexXp34-00365-00096560-00096943 communication also is very effective the GMzZwexXp34-00366-00096944-00097211 communication is effective there are no GMzZwexXp34-00367-00097212-00097399 miscommunications GMzZwexXp34-00368-00097400-00097606 there are no miscommunication between GMzZwexXp34-00369-00097607-00097823 the levels of an organization because GMzZwexXp34-00370-00097824-00098094 always an organization GMzZwexXp34-00371-00098095-00098471 functions in various levels so in uh in GMzZwexXp34-00372-00098472-00098726 page number 11 you will see that a very GMzZwexXp34-00373-00098727-00099006 nice graphical picture is given where it GMzZwexXp34-00374-00099007-00099206 talks about the leadership GMzZwexXp34-00375-00099207-00099423 the what happens leadership GMzZwexXp34-00376-00099424-00099703 spreads enthusiasm it inspires GMzZwexXp34-00377-00099704-00100055 confidence it demonstrates integrity GMzZwexXp34-00378-00100056-00100271 management principle GMzZwexXp34-00379-00100272-00100423 three GMzZwexXp34-00380-00100424-00100679 is involvement of people GMzZwexXp34-00381-00100680-00101023 now if the people are not involved then GMzZwexXp34-00382-00101024-00101255 the whole GMzZwexXp34-00383-00101256-00101503 you know function of the organization GMzZwexXp34-00384-00101504-00101782 will come to a standstill GMzZwexXp34-00385-00101783-00102038 it will not function if there is no GMzZwexXp34-00386-00102039-00102350 involvement however a good leader can GMzZwexXp34-00387-00102351-00102647 come in the place you can have the best GMzZwexXp34-00388-00102648-00102878 facility you can have the best GMzZwexXp34-00389-00102879-00103175 infrastructure if but if the people if GMzZwexXp34-00390-00103176-00103375 the staff is not GMzZwexXp34-00391-00103376-00103647 does not show involvement in what they GMzZwexXp34-00392-00103648-00104175 are doing then it is of no use GMzZwexXp34-00393-00104176-00104310 next is what GMzZwexXp34-00394-00104311-00104494 the fourth principle is GMzZwexXp34-00395-00104495-00104823 process approach now what do you exactly GMzZwexXp34-00396-00104824-00105039 mean by process approach GMzZwexXp34-00397-00105040-00105239 process approaches GMzZwexXp34-00398-00105240-00105639 when uh to achieve a desired result you GMzZwexXp34-00399-00105640-00105983 are trying to improve the process rather GMzZwexXp34-00400-00105983-00106271 than just inspecting the final product GMzZwexXp34-00401-00106272-00106551 and saying that the product is not good GMzZwexXp34-00402-00106552-00106751 okay that is called process approach GMzZwexXp34-00403-00106752-00107007 even though it is not given in your GMzZwexXp34-00404-00107008-00107271 study material i am just trying to GMzZwexXp34-00405-00107272-00107502 explain so that you know in in simple GMzZwexXp34-00406-00107503-00107695 terms you can understand what a process GMzZwexXp34-00407-00107696-00107966 approach means process approaches when GMzZwexXp34-00408-00107967-00108158 the process of GMzZwexXp34-00409-00108159-00108351 you know to achieve a particular result GMzZwexXp34-00410-00108352-00108590 when the process is looked into it and GMzZwexXp34-00411-00108591-00108863 the process is being studied and GMzZwexXp34-00412-00108864-00109183 improved then obviously you have a good GMzZwexXp34-00413-00109183-00109439 result so what is the benefit GMzZwexXp34-00414-00109440-00109671 lower cost and shorter cycle times GMzZwexXp34-00415-00109672-00109927 through effective use of resources GMzZwexXp34-00416-00109928-00110166 improved consistent and predictable GMzZwexXp34-00417-00110167-00110463 result focused and prioritized GMzZwexXp34-00418-00110464-00110695 improvement opportunities GMzZwexXp34-00419-00110696-00110919 these are the benefits GMzZwexXp34-00420-00110920-00111023 what is the GMzZwexXp34-00421-00111024-00111134 principle GMzZwexXp34-00422-00111135-00111510 the fifth principle is system approach GMzZwexXp34-00423-00111511-00111686 to management GMzZwexXp34-00424-00111688-00111871 what do you mean by system approach to GMzZwexXp34-00425-00111872-00112007 management GMzZwexXp34-00426-00112008-00112254 identifying understanding and managing GMzZwexXp34-00427-00112255-00112519 interrelated processes as a system GMzZwexXp34-00428-00112520-00112758 contributes to the organization's GMzZwexXp34-00429-00112759-00112895 effectiveness GMzZwexXp34-00430-00112896-00113199 the system approach that is a systematic GMzZwexXp34-00431-00113200-00113383 approach to the GMzZwexXp34-00432-00113383-00113734 to the system to for whatever be planned GMzZwexXp34-00433-00113735-00114015 and set there has to be a systematic GMzZwexXp34-00434-00114016-00114607 understanding way of uh approaching it GMzZwexXp34-00435-00114608-00114807 okay that is the fifth one and what is GMzZwexXp34-00436-00114808-00115071 the key benefit of that integration and GMzZwexXp34-00437-00115072-00115271 alignment of the processes that will GMzZwexXp34-00438-00115272-00115510 best achieve the desired result that is GMzZwexXp34-00439-00115511-00115734 that the total process there is an GMzZwexXp34-00440-00115735-00115975 integration and alignment GMzZwexXp34-00441-00115976-00116199 with ability to focus effort on the GMzZwexXp34-00442-00116200-00116486 grade processes providing confidence to GMzZwexXp34-00443-00116488-00116831 interested parties as the cons as to the GMzZwexXp34-00444-00116832-00117119 consistency effectiveness and efficiency GMzZwexXp34-00445-00117120-00117351 of the organization these are the lines GMzZwexXp34-00446-00117352-00117575 from your study material it's nothing GMzZwexXp34-00447-00117576-00117799 new that i am telling so if you have the GMzZwexXp34-00448-00117800-00118031 study material with you it is really GMzZwexXp34-00449-00118032-00118239 beneficial when we are going and you are GMzZwexXp34-00450-00118240-00118383 listening to my GMzZwexXp34-00451-00118383-00118615 counseling on the lecture GMzZwexXp34-00452-00118616-00118783 the management principle the sixth GMzZwexXp34-00453-00118783-00119078 principle is continual improvement GMzZwexXp34-00454-00119079-00119399 that the term itself is very clear GMzZwexXp34-00455-00119400-00119743 so i don't think uh there is any need to GMzZwexXp34-00456-00119744-00120007 you know explain on what uh continual GMzZwexXp34-00457-00120008-00120390 improvement means GMzZwexXp34-00458-00120391-00120614 again the factual approach to decision GMzZwexXp34-00459-00120615-00120839 making then also it's very clear from GMzZwexXp34-00460-00120840-00121110 the word itself the word itself speaks GMzZwexXp34-00461-00121111-00121302 about what do you mean by factual GMzZwexXp34-00462-00121303-00121534 approach to decision making decisions GMzZwexXp34-00463-00121535-00121847 are made based on evidence evidence and GMzZwexXp34-00464-00121848-00122175 facts not just because a person thinks GMzZwexXp34-00465-00122176-00122510 it is not because of people's GMzZwexXp34-00466-00122511-00123254 perception GMzZwexXp34-00467-00123255-00123447 mutually beneficial GMzZwexXp34-00468-00123448-00123647 supplier relationship GMzZwexXp34-00469-00123648-00123790 that is the last GMzZwexXp34-00470-00123791-00123934 uh principle GMzZwexXp34-00471-00123935-00124199 the it what does it mean organization GMzZwexXp34-00472-00124200-00124486 and its suppliers are interdependent so GMzZwexXp34-00473-00124488-00124751 you need to make them understand and you GMzZwexXp34-00474-00124752-00124999 have to have a very good relationship GMzZwexXp34-00475-00125000-00125278 otherwise if that mutual benefit that GMzZwexXp34-00476-00125279-00125607 the supplier and the you know processor GMzZwexXp34-00477-00125608-00125863 relationship is not good then then it GMzZwexXp34-00478-00125864-00126110 will get affected your processes will GMzZwexXp34-00479-00126111-00126486 get affected so that also has to be GMzZwexXp34-00480-00126488-00126758 uh looked into so what is the key GMzZwexXp34-00481-00126759-00126951 benefit of that principle it is an GMzZwexXp34-00482-00126952-00127190 increased ability to create value for GMzZwexXp34-00483-00127191-00127551 both parties like both that benefited so GMzZwexXp34-00484-00127552-00127702 both have to be GMzZwexXp34-00485-00127703-00128039 working together with the same principle GMzZwexXp34-00486-00128040-00128271 and the same goal and in an GMzZwexXp34-00487-00128272-00128534 understanding manner so that a good GMzZwexXp34-00488-00128535-00128878 product a good management system is put GMzZwexXp34-00489-00128879-00129078 in place so those are the eight GMzZwexXp34-00490-00129079-00129295 principles of management principles GMzZwexXp34-00491-00129296-00129431 which we have GMzZwexXp34-00492-00129432-00129614 looked into now GMzZwexXp34-00493-00129615-00129719 next is GMzZwexXp34-00494-00129720-00130071 9000 2005 where the fundamentals and GMzZwexXp34-00495-00130072-00130343 vocabulary is done GMzZwexXp34-00496-00130344-00130566 what are the fundamentals the 12 GMzZwexXp34-00497-00130567-00130758 fundamentals of quality management GMzZwexXp34-00498-00130759-00131031 system it has been GMzZwexXp34-00499-00131032-00131383 listed out the 12 quality management GMzZwexXp34-00500-00131384-00131495 systems GMzZwexXp34-00501-00131496-00131623 fundamentals GMzZwexXp34-00502-00131624-00131895 we will look into it one by one GMzZwexXp34-00503-00131896-00132135 rational for quality management system GMzZwexXp34-00504-00132136-00132287 is the first one GMzZwexXp34-00505-00132288-00132478 that is the establishment of framework GMzZwexXp34-00506-00132479-00132678 for continual improvement to increase GMzZwexXp34-00507-00132679-00133343 the probability of enhancing GMzZwexXp34-00508-00133344-00133647 of uh and enhancing uh the customer GMzZwexXp34-00509-00133648-00133878 satisfaction by delivering products that GMzZwexXp34-00510-00133879-00134047 consistently fulfill customer GMzZwexXp34-00511-00134048-00134271 requirements see earlier in the GMzZwexXp34-00512-00134272-00134647 principle we saw that customer focus is GMzZwexXp34-00513-00134648-00135007 very important so it is see all these GMzZwexXp34-00514-00135008-00135278 things are interrelated GMzZwexXp34-00515-00135279-00135527 if you understand one part the next part GMzZwexXp34-00516-00135528-00135814 understanding and grasping and also to GMzZwexXp34-00517-00135815-00136023 reproduce when it comes to your GMzZwexXp34-00518-00136024-00136254 examination it will be very easy or if GMzZwexXp34-00519-00136255-00136463 you are implementing a quality system in GMzZwexXp34-00520-00136464-00136719 your organization where you one of you GMzZwexXp34-00521-00136720-00137087 or all of you are working that also GMzZwexXp34-00522-00137088-00137239 is very um GMzZwexXp34-00523-00137240-00137671 easy it it's easy to follow GMzZwexXp34-00524-00137672-00137847 requirements for GMzZwexXp34-00525-00137848-00138119 quality management system sorry rational GMzZwexXp34-00526-00138120-00138327 for quality management system is that GMzZwexXp34-00527-00138328-00138511 requirements for quality management GMzZwexXp34-00528-00138512-00138775 system and requirement for products GMzZwexXp34-00529-00138776-00138959 the requirements for quality management GMzZwexXp34-00530-00138960-00139247 systems are specified GMzZwexXp34-00531-00139248-00139583 in 9001 so that is one of another GMzZwexXp34-00532-00139584-00139831 fundamental which is already given in GMzZwexXp34-00533-00139832-00140183 9001 approach to quality of quality GMzZwexXp34-00534-00140184-00140431 management system determining the needs GMzZwexXp34-00535-00140432-00140687 how what should be the approach approach GMzZwexXp34-00536-00140688-00140943 should be based on determining the needs GMzZwexXp34-00537-00140944-00141159 and expectations of customers and other GMzZwexXp34-00538-00141160-00141351 interested parties GMzZwexXp34-00539-00141352-00141607 that we have already seen establishing GMzZwexXp34-00540-00141608-00141839 quality policy and objectives GMzZwexXp34-00541-00141840-00142023 determining the processes and GMzZwexXp34-00542-00142024-00142199 responsibilities GMzZwexXp34-00543-00142200-00142471 to attain those objectives establishing GMzZwexXp34-00544-00142472-00142711 methods to measure the effectiveness GMzZwexXp34-00545-00142712-00143039 like that it has been just listed few GMzZwexXp34-00546-00143040-00143231 how and what should be the approach of GMzZwexXp34-00547-00143232-00143478 the quality management system GMzZwexXp34-00548-00143479-00143719 now uh i can see in the chat box GMzZwexXp34-00549-00143720-00144023 rameshwari has dropped a line saying GMzZwexXp34-00550-00144024-00144231 that can you please explain process GMzZwexXp34-00551-00144232-00144599 approach one more time swing we are just GMzZwexXp34-00552-00144600-00144926 coming to that if you see the fourth one GMzZwexXp34-00553-00144927-00145207 is the process approach see the process GMzZwexXp34-00554-00145208-00145343 approach means GMzZwexXp34-00555-00145344-00145766 we just try to focus on the end product GMzZwexXp34-00556-00145767-00146095 only what will happen you are you keep GMzZwexXp34-00557-00146096-00146631 on producing the end product and then GMzZwexXp34-00558-00146632-00146878 you are not focusing on the process what GMzZwexXp34-00559-00146879-00147039 will happen you don't know how the GMzZwexXp34-00560-00147040-00147271 quality product will be GMzZwexXp34-00561-00147272-00147495 formed GMzZwexXp34-00562-00147496-00147599 right GMzZwexXp34-00563-00147600-00147871 so that is the reason why the process GMzZwexXp34-00564-00147872-00148175 itself has to be GMzZwexXp34-00565-00148176-00148366 has to be improved GMzZwexXp34-00566-00148367-00148663 for example if i tell you uh if we take GMzZwexXp34-00567-00148664-00148854 an example of say GMzZwexXp34-00568-00148855-00149087 a good product like GMzZwexXp34-00569-00149088-00149383 a simple product like potato chips in a GMzZwexXp34-00570-00149384-00149495 factory GMzZwexXp34-00571-00149496-00149719 now they find that the product is not GMzZwexXp34-00572-00149720-00150031 good uh the taste is not good so what GMzZwexXp34-00573-00150032-00150319 happens is now at present the GMzZwexXp34-00574-00150320-00150551 approach is like the end product is GMzZwexXp34-00575-00150552-00150799 being tested it is the GMzZwexXp34-00576-00150800-00151047 customer's feedback is being collected GMzZwexXp34-00577-00151048-00151223 only on the product GMzZwexXp34-00578-00151224-00151502 now what has to be looked into is the GMzZwexXp34-00579-00151503-00151687 complete process GMzZwexXp34-00580-00151688-00151999 right from the raw material that is the GMzZwexXp34-00581-00152000-00152254 material which is produ uh processed GMzZwexXp34-00582-00152255-00152575 that is the raw material the potato the GMzZwexXp34-00583-00152576-00152854 oil which is used all this GMzZwexXp34-00584-00152855-00153190 and then how it is processed the washing GMzZwexXp34-00585-00153191-00153390 the quality of water which is used for GMzZwexXp34-00586-00153391-00153695 washing how it is being dried how it is GMzZwexXp34-00587-00153696-00153902 being cut into pieces and then the 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GMzZwexXp34-00602-00157415-00157623 so these things all if you just GMzZwexXp34-00603-00157624-00157847 concentrate only on the end product it GMzZwexXp34-00604-00157848-00158095 will not help so you need to have a GMzZwexXp34-00605-00158096-00158223 process GMzZwexXp34-00606-00158224-00158454 approach that is rightly said that that GMzZwexXp34-00607-00158455-00158711 is called process approach identifying GMzZwexXp34-00608-00158712-00158975 activities or set of activities that use GMzZwexXp34-00609-00158976-00159366 the resources and transform inputs into GMzZwexXp34-00610-00159367-00159702 outputs and defining them as processes GMzZwexXp34-00611-00159703-00160054 i just took one example there can be GMzZwexXp34-00612-00160055-00160254 hundreds of other examples which is GMzZwexXp34-00613-00160255-00160511 applicable for various industry i just GMzZwexXp34-00614-00160512-00160759 took one example of foods because we are GMzZwexXp34-00615-00160760-00161007 doing a food quality management system GMzZwexXp34-00616-00161008-00161278 now that is why i took an example of a GMzZwexXp34-00617-00161279-00161390 food GMzZwexXp34-00618-00161391-00161639 now identifying the interrelationship GMzZwexXp34-00619-00161640-00161863 and interaction between identified GMzZwexXp34-00620-00161864-00162095 processes whatever processes have been GMzZwexXp34-00621-00162096-00162343 identified what is the interrelationship GMzZwexXp34-00622-00162344-00162671 among them and how it can be fruitful GMzZwexXp34-00623-00162672-00162871 managing the processes and their GMzZwexXp34-00624-00162872-00163102 interaction these are covered under the GMzZwexXp34-00625-00163103-00163431 process approach i hope rahishri i'm GMzZwexXp34-00626-00163432-00163766 clear with my explanation if you have GMzZwexXp34-00627-00163767-00164007 more doubts at the end of the class i GMzZwexXp34-00628-00164008-00164247 can give you my mail id or i can provide GMzZwexXp34-00629-00164248-00164495 my telephone number if you can call if GMzZwexXp34-00630-00164496-00164799 anybody wants to call and uh you know GMzZwexXp34-00631-00164800-00165063 get any doubts clear we can do that GMzZwexXp34-00632-00165064-00165283 even though i think the GMzZwexXp34-00633-00165284-00165607 the material provided to you is almost GMzZwexXp34-00634-00165608-00165775 very clear GMzZwexXp34-00635-00165776-00166007 but yeah since we if you are not GMzZwexXp34-00636-00166008-00166254 experienced in setting up any faulty GMzZwexXp34-00637-00166255-00166487 management system you may have certain GMzZwexXp34-00638-00166488-00166775 doubts on what it GMzZwexXp34-00639-00166776-00167031 easily be cleared that's not a problem GMzZwexXp34-00640-00167032-00167302 and that is our intention actually this GMzZwexXp34-00641-00167303-00167543 counseling sessions intention is to GMzZwexXp34-00642-00167544-00167759 clear if anybody has a doubt that is why GMzZwexXp34-00643-00167760-00167983 it is not a mandatory requirement that GMzZwexXp34-00644-00167984-00168223 you should attend the counseling classes GMzZwexXp34-00645-00168224-00168407 counseling is just to help you GMzZwexXp34-00646-00168408-00168663 understand if if there is any doubt it GMzZwexXp34-00647-00168664-00168871 is not basically a GMzZwexXp34-00648-00168872-00169166 lecture class where the complete topic GMzZwexXp34-00649-00169167-00169390 is covered it is it is basically a GMzZwexXp34-00650-00169391-00169647 counseling where the student has to come GMzZwexXp34-00651-00169648-00169919 out with their own specific doubts and GMzZwexXp34-00652-00169920-00170151 then we are here to help you clear those GMzZwexXp34-00653-00170152-00170254 down GMzZwexXp34-00654-00170255-00170614 but since this online sessions everyone GMzZwexXp34-00655-00170615-00170878 is sitting at various corners of you GMzZwexXp34-00656-00170879-00171087 know the state or the country and then GMzZwexXp34-00657-00171088-00171326 from there they are joining GMzZwexXp34-00658-00171327-00171519 so we can it is difficult for us to GMzZwexXp34-00659-00171520-00171687 understand what is the common GMzZwexXp34-00660-00171688-00171919 requirement that is why we are just GMzZwexXp34-00661-00171920-00172190 going through uh we are quickly going GMzZwexXp34-00662-00172191-00172302 through the GMzZwexXp34-00663-00172303-00172543 each sections each unit GMzZwexXp34-00664-00172544-00172766 and just you know explaining it very GMzZwexXp34-00665-00172767-00173014 briefly each point and wherever you have GMzZwexXp34-00666-00173015-00173254 any difficulty you can get back to us we GMzZwexXp34-00667-00173255-00173551 are always here to help you out GMzZwexXp34-00668-00173552-00173919 uh i hope unclear is my voice clearly GMzZwexXp34-00669-00173920-00174166 audible to all of you is there any GMzZwexXp34-00670-00174167-00174351 connectivity issue because being a GMzZwexXp34-00671-00174352-00174711 sunday rit team is not here so but still GMzZwexXp34-00672-00174712-00174902 i would like to know if GMzZwexXp34-00673-00174903-00175159 all connections are proper from our and GMzZwexXp34-00674-00175160-00175447 because we had yesterday some issues GMzZwexXp34-00675-00175448-00175775 am i audible properly and is the GMzZwexXp34-00676-00175776-00176038 connectivity issue from our end is that GMzZwexXp34-00677-00176039-00176223 okay GMzZwexXp34-00678-00176224-00176478 okay thank you rashmi has responded that GMzZwexXp34-00679-00176479-00176726 it's clear so i hope it is the same for GMzZwexXp34-00680-00176727-00176863 all GMzZwexXp34-00681-00176864-00177135 okay okay ashley thank you thank you so GMzZwexXp34-00682-00177136-00177223 much GMzZwexXp34-00683-00177224-00177471 so i believe uh it's clear for all of GMzZwexXp34-00684-00177472-00177575 you GMzZwexXp34-00685-00177576-00177823 okay so um GMzZwexXp34-00686-00177824-00178031 we were doing this uh process approach GMzZwexXp34-00687-00178032-00178223 then the quality policy and quality GMzZwexXp34-00688-00178224-00178519 objectives quality policy has to be set GMzZwexXp34-00689-00178520-00178735 up and then also the objectives and with GMzZwexXp34-00690-00178736-00178975 the we need to meet the objectives that GMzZwexXp34-00691-00178976-00179199 has been set up the role of top GMzZwexXp34-00692-00179200-00179414 management within the quality management GMzZwexXp34-00693-00179415-00179671 system the role of top management is GMzZwexXp34-00694-00179672-00179895 very very important because the top GMzZwexXp34-00695-00179896-00180031 management is GMzZwexXp34-00696-00180032-00180175 is the GMzZwexXp34-00697-00180176-00180478 person or the group which provides the GMzZwexXp34-00698-00180479-00180807 resources for the complete organization GMzZwexXp34-00699-00180808-00181031 and if there is no commitment from the GMzZwexXp34-00700-00181032-00181247 top management then no quality GMzZwexXp34-00701-00181248-00181575 management system will have an effective GMzZwexXp34-00702-00181576-00181838 it will achieve the objective it will GMzZwexXp34-00703-00181839-00182071 remain in paper it will not come to the GMzZwexXp34-00704-00182072-00182302 floor of the organization GMzZwexXp34-00705-00182303-00182566 so the top management is the role of top GMzZwexXp34-00706-00182567-00182799 management is also very very important GMzZwexXp34-00707-00182800-00183007 then the documentation value of GMzZwexXp34-00708-00183008-00183247 documentation as a value-added activity GMzZwexXp34-00709-00183248-00183478 see documentation has been again broken GMzZwexXp34-00710-00183479-00183775 up into various subclauses where value GMzZwexXp34-00711-00183776-00184007 of documentation is being said types of GMzZwexXp34-00712-00184008-00184183 document used in quality management GMzZwexXp34-00713-00184184-00184447 system GMzZwexXp34-00714-00184448-00184599 and then GMzZwexXp34-00715-00184600-00184943 then they they move on to say that 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unnecessary work GMzZwexXp34-00730-00188991-00189295 no it is not an unnecessary verb why GMzZwexXp34-00731-00189296-00189590 because if there is no document how do GMzZwexXp34-00732-00189591-00189831 you prove or how do you uh you know GMzZwexXp34-00733-00189832-00190023 understand if there is a mistake you GMzZwexXp34-00734-00190024-00190247 want to go back and correct it how do GMzZwexXp34-00735-00190248-00190471 you make a mistake how do you correct a GMzZwexXp34-00736-00190472-00190663 mistake for example GMzZwexXp34-00737-00190664-00190863 i tell you because we are doing food GMzZwexXp34-00738-00190864-00191135 management system i'll tell you if all GMzZwexXp34-00739-00191136-00191478 of us we are doing cooking at home GMzZwexXp34-00740-00191479-00191766 now when we try out some new recipes at GMzZwexXp34-00741-00191767-00192047 home we will see that okay sometimes GMzZwexXp34-00742-00192048-00192326 especially with this lockdown and all we GMzZwexXp34-00743-00192327-00192583 we 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GMzZwexXp34-00757-00195703-00195990 added the amount of the ingredient added GMzZwexXp34-00758-00195991-00196223 is correct or not only if it is a GMzZwexXp34-00759-00196224-00196543 written down a recipe you will be able GMzZwexXp34-00760-00196544-00196823 to understand and go back otherwise you GMzZwexXp34-00761-00196824-00197071 should be a superhuman to remember each GMzZwexXp34-00762-00197072-00197335 and every step and to produce that each GMzZwexXp34-00763-00197336-00197526 and every step that this is what i have GMzZwexXp34-00764-00197527-00197647 done GMzZwexXp34-00765-00197648-00197902 which is not easy and this is not easy GMzZwexXp34-00766-00197903-00198119 especially because in our home we are GMzZwexXp34-00767-00198120-00198335 the only person who is working but just GMzZwexXp34-00768-00198336-00198638 put the same situation in a factory or GMzZwexXp34-00769-00198639-00198911 in our organization where so many others GMzZwexXp34-00770-00198912-00199166 are working so when we have to go back GMzZwexXp34-00771-00199167-00199407 and correct something we can do that GMzZwexXp34-00772-00199408-00199623 correction or we can go back and learn GMzZwexXp34-00773-00199624-00199871 from if any mistake has happened only if GMzZwexXp34-00774-00199872-00200111 a document is there we can understand GMzZwexXp34-00775-00200112-00200295 okay there was something wrong in this GMzZwexXp34-00776-00200296-00200511 step this is what i have done this is GMzZwexXp34-00777-00200512-00200735 what should have been done GMzZwexXp34-00778-00200736-00201047 okay or if this is the process which we GMzZwexXp34-00779-00201048-00201287 were following and this is the outcome GMzZwexXp34-00780-00201288-00201487 there is a problem in the outcome it GMzZwexXp34-00781-00201488-00201847 needs to be corrected only if we go back GMzZwexXp34-00782-00201848-00202119 that is called the traceability we go by GMzZwexXp34-00783-00202120-00202359 going back on our information and GMzZwexXp34-00784-00202360-00202607 correcting it can be done only if a GMzZwexXp34-00785-00202608-00202926 document is maintained okay a record or GMzZwexXp34-00786-00202927-00203166 a document is followed GMzZwexXp34-00787-00203167-00203447 that is the importance of documentation GMzZwexXp34-00788-00203448-00203647 now evaluation GMzZwexXp34-00789-00203648-00203950 yesterday also we said checking in our GMzZwexXp34-00790-00203951-00204223 pdca methodology GMzZwexXp34-00791-00204224-00204607 in pdca methodology we have plan do GMzZwexXp34-00792-00204608-00204702 check GMzZwexXp34-00793-00204703-00204951 what is checking checking is basically GMzZwexXp34-00794-00204952-00205166 evaluation of the system you have put GMzZwexXp34-00795-00205167-00205462 this nice system in place what is the GMzZwexXp34-00796-00205463-00205655 point if you don't check whether it is GMzZwexXp34-00797-00205656-00205903 perfectly all right or not there's no GMzZwexXp34-00798-00205904-00206166 point it is like giving your vehicle for GMzZwexXp34-00799-00206167-00206462 servicing once if after the servicing GMzZwexXp34-00800-00206463-00206710 you get your vehicle back or for repair GMzZwexXp34-00801-00206711-00206886 if you are giving your vehicle when you GMzZwexXp34-00802-00206887-00207094 get it back you always check know GMzZwexXp34-00803-00207096-00207286 whether it is functioning properly or GMzZwexXp34-00804-00207287-00207462 not similarly GMzZwexXp34-00805-00207463-00207662 when you set up a quality management GMzZwexXp34-00806-00207663-00207927 system in an organization after you set GMzZwexXp34-00807-00207928-00208231 it up or after you start working on it GMzZwexXp34-00808-00208232-00208390 and implement it GMzZwexXp34-00809-00208391-00208655 in regular intervals you should have a GMzZwexXp34-00810-00208656-00208998 check system to find out that whether it GMzZwexXp34-00811-00209000-00209310 is GMzZwexXp34-00812-00209311-00209575 it is really functioning as per your GMzZwexXp34-00813-00209576-00210215 requirement or not GMzZwexXp34-00814-00210216-00210503 as per your set documented principles or GMzZwexXp34-00815-00210504-00210806 not so that is also very important okay GMzZwexXp34-00816-00210807-00211015 it can be self-evaluation it can be GMzZwexXp34-00817-00211016-00211255 valid by a team it can be an external GMzZwexXp34-00818-00211256-00211463 audit it can be an internal audit GMzZwexXp34-00819-00211464-00211567 anything GMzZwexXp34-00820-00211567-00211767 and continual improvement what is GMzZwexXp34-00821-00211767-00211967 continual improvement now you have you GMzZwexXp34-00822-00211967-00212246 know that there are so many points where GMzZwexXp34-00823-00212248-00212471 a correction or an improvement needs to GMzZwexXp34-00824-00212471-00212687 be done if you don't make that GMzZwexXp34-00825-00212688-00212975 improvement then setting up of all that GMzZwexXp34-00826-00212976-00213223 that checking has got no value so we GMzZwexXp34-00827-00213223-00213398 need to that is why that continual GMzZwexXp34-00828-00213400-00213687 improvement has come role of statistical GMzZwexXp34-00829-00213688-00213871 techniques GMzZwexXp34-00830-00213871-00214087 statistical technique has got value GMzZwexXp34-00831-00214088-00214375 because it's only start using statistics GMzZwexXp34-00832-00214376-00214655 you can measure and describe like when GMzZwexXp34-00833-00214656-00214727 you GMzZwexXp34-00834-00214728-00214982 see especially now the elections around GMzZwexXp34-00835-00214983-00215182 the corner you will find that the GMzZwexXp34-00836-00215183-00215439 statistics when we sit for the counting GMzZwexXp34-00837-00215440-00215791 and all that we see so many has improved GMzZwexXp34-00838-00215792-00216087 this many percentage and this seat so GMzZwexXp34-00839-00216088-00216303 many various kinds of statistical GMzZwexXp34-00840-00216304-00216494 techniques are being used GMzZwexXp34-00841-00216496-00216751 similarly if you see a cricket match GMzZwexXp34-00842-00216752-00217039 in the cricket match also how many balls GMzZwexXp34-00843-00217040-00217287 have dropped in this place how many has GMzZwexXp34-00844-00217288-00217606 bounced in this angle that angle so many GMzZwexXp34-00845-00217607-00217871 statistics techniques based on what has GMzZwexXp34-00846-00217871-00218103 happened in the previous match GMzZwexXp34-00847-00218104-00218367 uh you know the present match and all GMzZwexXp34-00848-00218367-00218471 that GMzZwexXp34-00849-00218471-00218567 so GMzZwexXp34-00850-00218567-00218942 the statistics has become so important GMzZwexXp34-00851-00218944-00219287 and so many comparisons are being done GMzZwexXp34-00852-00219288-00219615 so that we know how what are the trends GMzZwexXp34-00853-00219616-00219879 so that is the role of statistics GMzZwexXp34-00854-00219880-00220055 the quality management system and other GMzZwexXp34-00855-00220056-00220255 management system focuses GMzZwexXp34-00856-00220256-00220342 that GMzZwexXp34-00857-00220344-00220639 as the name itself says it's very uh GMzZwexXp34-00858-00220640-00220782 simple to understand the quality GMzZwexXp34-00859-00220783-00221015 management system and excellence models GMzZwexXp34-00860-00221016-00221263 similarities and differences GMzZwexXp34-00861-00221264-00221479 then we go to the terminology of quality GMzZwexXp34-00862-00221480-00221655 management system GMzZwexXp34-00863-00221656-00222046 now various terminologies are given GMzZwexXp34-00864-00222048-00222287 where every term GMzZwexXp34-00865-00222288-00222503 so you will find that GMzZwexXp34-00866-00222504-00222655 you know GMzZwexXp34-00867-00222656-00222823 around GMzZwexXp34-00868-00222823-00222998 say 10 GMzZwexXp34-00869-00223000-00223231 terminologies have been given GMzZwexXp34-00870-00223232-00223519 which we have almost already gone GMzZwexXp34-00871-00223519-00223839 through all the terminology GMzZwexXp34-00872-00223840-00224158 okay quality what do you mean by quality GMzZwexXp34-00873-00224159-00224503 as late initially i told you know that GMzZwexXp34-00874-00224504-00224855 every term is being defined in the GMzZwexXp34-00875-00224856-00225063 uh document so that GMzZwexXp34-00876-00225064-00225423 everyone do not interpret in a GMzZwexXp34-00877-00225423-00225679 varied manner there is a there is a GMzZwexXp34-00878-00225680-00225991 similarity in the definition of the GMzZwexXp34-00879-00225992-00226158 uh terms GMzZwexXp34-00880-00226159-00226375 so quality is has been defined GMzZwexXp34-00881-00226376-00226631 management the system the management GMzZwexXp34-00882-00226632-00226903 effectiveness efficiency all these terms GMzZwexXp34-00883-00226904-00227263 are discussed characteristics conformity GMzZwexXp34-00884-00227264-00227551 now what is conformity companies may be GMzZwexXp34-00885-00227552-00227839 a new term for some of you if not all of GMzZwexXp34-00886-00227840-00228182 you conformity is fulfillment of a GMzZwexXp34-00887-00228183-00228519 requirement that is a requirement is for GMzZwexXp34-00888-00228519-00228775 example if we take an example of a GMzZwexXp34-00889-00228776-00229031 pressure cooker if the pressure cooker GMzZwexXp34-00890-00229032-00229294 the you know the requirement is that it GMzZwexXp34-00891-00229296-00229606 should hold the steam and a particular GMzZwexXp34-00892-00229607-00229855 volume has been defined then whether GMzZwexXp34-00893-00229856-00230110 that conformance is there for the unit GMzZwexXp34-00894-00230111-00230310 you have purchased or not that is GMzZwexXp34-00895-00230311-00230598 conformity so the requirement is there GMzZwexXp34-00896-00230600-00230823 and whether that requirement has been GMzZwexXp34-00897-00230823-00231142 met or not what is non-conformity when GMzZwexXp34-00898-00231144-00231351 it does not meet it is called GMzZwexXp34-00899-00231352-00231567 non-conformity GMzZwexXp34-00900-00231567-00231719 correction is when there is a GMzZwexXp34-00901-00231719-00232055 non-conformity observed you act you GMzZwexXp34-00902-00232056-00232391 eliminate the non-conformity by taking a GMzZwexXp34-00903-00232392-00232591 corrective action that is correct GMzZwexXp34-00904-00232592-00232798 preventive action is to eliminate the GMzZwexXp34-00905-00232800-00233175 cause of a potential non-conformity GMzZwexXp34-00906-00233176-00233519 documentation we have just uh GMzZwexXp34-00907-00233519-00233839 said audit in yesterday's class we have GMzZwexXp34-00908-00233840-00234167 completely you know gone through them GMzZwexXp34-00909-00234167-00234446 one of the unit was itself was on GMzZwexXp34-00910-00234448-00234655 auditing GMzZwexXp34-00911-00234656-00234919 then it goes to quality management GMzZwexXp34-00912-00234919-00235198 system requirements GMzZwexXp34-00913-00235200-00235367 okay quality management system GMzZwexXp34-00914-00235367-00235623 requirements where the system GMzZwexXp34-00915-00235623-00235903 requirements is divided into GMzZwexXp34-00916-00235904-00236151 uh introduction scope normative GMzZwexXp34-00917-00236152-00236455 reference terms and this is a basic GMzZwexXp34-00918-00236456-00236631 structure in which GMzZwexXp34-00919-00236632-00236839 any management system GMzZwexXp34-00920-00236840-00237142 is presented to us any management system GMzZwexXp34-00921-00237144-00237255 which is GMzZwexXp34-00922-00237256-00237639 uh framed by iso is in this structure GMzZwexXp34-00923-00237640-00237910 there will be a scope scope means to GMzZwexXp34-00924-00237911-00238134 which this is applicable GMzZwexXp34-00925-00238135-00238382 references what has been referenced for GMzZwexXp34-00926-00238383-00238575 making that standard GMzZwexXp34-00927-00238576-00238815 terms and definitions as i already told GMzZwexXp34-00928-00238816-00238934 you what will be the terms and GMzZwexXp34-00929-00238935-00239071 definition GMzZwexXp34-00930-00239071-00239271 what will be the what is the about the GMzZwexXp34-00931-00239271-00239463 system GMzZwexXp34-00932-00239464-00239679 general requirement is generally defined GMzZwexXp34-00933-00239680-00239903 in the section 4. GMzZwexXp34-00934-00239904-00240110 management responsibility is given in GMzZwexXp34-00935-00240111-00240263 section 5. GMzZwexXp34-00936-00240264-00240503 resource management is given in section GMzZwexXp34-00937-00240504-00240591 6 GMzZwexXp34-00938-00240592-00240815 product realization is given in section GMzZwexXp34-00939-00240816-00241071 7 and in section eight measurement GMzZwexXp34-00940-00241071-00241358 analysis and improvement that is GMzZwexXp34-00941-00241359-00241591 the remaining improvement part is the GMzZwexXp34-00942-00241592-00241863 medication this is the basic GMzZwexXp34-00943-00241864-00242182 structure of any international standby GMzZwexXp34-00944-00242183-00242510 standards okay this eight sections are GMzZwexXp34-00945-00242511-00242879 the basic skeleton of a standard we will GMzZwexXp34-00946-00242880-00243094 we can go through this or you will GMzZwexXp34-00947-00243096-00243255 understand this when we are going GMzZwexXp34-00948-00243256-00243534 through various kinds of um GMzZwexXp34-00949-00243535-00243927 standards GMzZwexXp34-00950-00243928-00244151 see the standard also specifies its GMzZwexXp34-00951-00244152-00244342 compulsory documents these are some of GMzZwexXp34-00952-00244344-00244598 the documents but we have just uh gone GMzZwexXp34-00953-00244600-00244782 through the terms about the GMzZwexXp34-00954-00244783-00245030 control of documents records internal GMzZwexXp34-00955-00245031-00245279 audits and all we have already discussed GMzZwexXp34-00956-00245280-00245406 yesterday GMzZwexXp34-00957-00245407-00245527 so GMzZwexXp34-00958-00245528-00245839 i don't think we need to go back to it GMzZwexXp34-00959-00245840-00245958 and GMzZwexXp34-00960-00245959-00246191 steps for implementing uh quality GMzZwexXp34-00961-00246192-00246375 management system GMzZwexXp34-00962-00246376-00246615 how do you set up how do you implement GMzZwexXp34-00963-00246616-00246846 the quality managements GMzZwexXp34-00964-00246848-00246958 in your GMzZwexXp34-00965-00246959-00247110 organization GMzZwexXp34-00966-00247111-00247358 what we did was the pdca GMzZwexXp34-00967-00247359-00247527 it is same GMzZwexXp34-00968-00247528-00247742 all you have to keep in mind is GMzZwexXp34-00969-00247744-00249079 about the pdc GMzZwexXp34-00970-00249080-00249567 again identify so quickly in say GMzZwexXp34-00971-00249567-00249742 it GMzZwexXp34-00972-00249744-00250079 in 40 or 13 points if you look into your GMzZwexXp34-00973-00250080-00250463 material page number 20 it says it has GMzZwexXp34-00974-00250464-00250551 given GMzZwexXp34-00975-00250552-00250734 how do you set up an implement GMzZwexXp34-00976-00250735-00251063 management system in 13 points quickly GMzZwexXp34-00977-00251064-00251246 we can just go through it one is GMzZwexXp34-00978-00251248-00251455 identify the goals what do you want to GMzZwexXp34-00979-00251456-00251671 achieve that is the first question GMzZwexXp34-00980-00251671-00251975 identify what others expect of you GMzZwexXp34-00981-00251976-00252223 obtain the information about the 9000 GMzZwexXp34-00982-00252223-00252519 family you have to then look into the GMzZwexXp34-00983-00252519-00252751 information about the 9 000 standard GMzZwexXp34-00984-00252752-00252991 family which one you can apply GMzZwexXp34-00985-00252992-00253230 then the guidance then establish your GMzZwexXp34-00986-00253231-00253398 current status what is your current GMzZwexXp34-00987-00253400-00253646 status with respect to the standard GMzZwexXp34-00988-00253648-00253839 determine the processes that are needed GMzZwexXp34-00989-00253840-00254110 to supply products to your customers GMzZwexXp34-00990-00254111-00254294 then develop a plan GMzZwexXp34-00991-00254296-00254446 you know after all that you have to GMzZwexXp34-00992-00254448-00254679 carry out a plan GMzZwexXp34-00993-00254680-00254951 undergo periodic internal assessment GMzZwexXp34-00994-00254952-00255103 that is the check GMzZwexXp34-00995-00255104-00255334 undergo independent audit that is also a GMzZwexXp34-00996-00255335-00255567 check then continually continue to GMzZwexXp34-00997-00255567-00255855 improve your business which means act GMzZwexXp34-00998-00255856-00255975 that is GMzZwexXp34-00999-00255976-00256215 whenever you see a gap you have to fill GMzZwexXp34-01000-00256216-00256551 that gap and continue to improve GMzZwexXp34-01001-00256552-00256855 so that's all with uh the unit one i GMzZwexXp34-01002-00256856-00256908 think GMzZwexXp34-01003-00256909-00257046 [Applause] GMzZwexXp34-01004-00257048-00257287 that's what we have covered as all GMzZwexXp34-01005-00257288-00257463 quality management system guidelines for GMzZwexXp34-01006-00257464-00257767 performance improvement that is once uh GMzZwexXp34-01007-00257767-00258023 the system is implemented this has got GMzZwexXp34-01008-00258023-00258255 guidance for how you can improve that is GMzZwexXp34-01009-00258256-00258446 your acting part GMzZwexXp34-01010-00258448-00258751 so that's all with this unit it is all GMzZwexXp34-01011-00258752-00258958 the same thing which is almost the same GMzZwexXp34-01012-00258959-00259167 thing what we have covered GMzZwexXp34-01013-00259167-00259358 today already GMzZwexXp34-01014-00259359-00259534 so GMzZwexXp34-01015-00259535-00259871 if you have any questions on this unit GMzZwexXp34-01016-00259871-00260134 you can put it in the chat box i can GMzZwexXp34-01017-00260135-00260246 take it up GMzZwexXp34-01018-00260248-00260519 and or we'll move on to the next unit GMzZwexXp34-01019-00260519-00260855 that is unit 5 after taking a short 5 GMzZwexXp34-01020-00260856-00260998 minutes break GMzZwexXp34-01021-00261000-00261255 it is 11 we'll quickly take a five GMzZwexXp34-01022-00261256-00261479 minute straight and we need to cover GMzZwexXp34-01023-00261480-00261646 three more units GMzZwexXp34-01024-00261648-00261782 so GMzZwexXp34-01025-00261783-00262119 i will try not to go into every unit in GMzZwexXp34-01026-00262119-00262343 detail GMzZwexXp34-01027-00262344-00262575 if you have a specific question from GMzZwexXp34-01028-00262576-00262847 specific unit you can put it in the chat GMzZwexXp34-01029-00262848-00263110 box i can either take it up with you GMzZwexXp34-01030-00263111-00263247 personally GMzZwexXp34-01031-00263248-00263558 if there is no time in this session or GMzZwexXp34-01032-00263559-00263775 uh you know if there is enough time at GMzZwexXp34-01033-00263776-00263999 the end of the session i can take it up GMzZwexXp34-01034-00264000-00264191 in the end of the session if you will be GMzZwexXp34-01035-00264192-00264423 available i can be here and taken up GMzZwexXp34-01036-00264424-00264606 take up your question GMzZwexXp34-01037-00264607-00264855 so otherwise we will go to uh unit GMzZwexXp34-01038-00264856-00265023 number five GMzZwexXp34-01039-00265024-00265223 um GMzZwexXp34-01040-00265224-00265455 the next one which is GMzZwexXp34-01041-00265456-00265775 iso 90001 structure which talks about GMzZwexXp34-01042-00265776-00266071 what is the structure of iso 9000 GMzZwexXp34-01043-00266072-00266358 in the earlier one we had quickly said GMzZwexXp34-01044-00266359-00266567 what is the documentation structure but GMzZwexXp34-01045-00266568-00266879 here in detail in this unit explains GMzZwexXp34-01046-00266880-00267215 what is the documentation structure of GMzZwexXp34-01047-00267216-00267455 9001 2000 GMzZwexXp34-01048-00267456-00267543 okay GMzZwexXp34-01049-00267544-00267710 where we will understand what the GMzZwexXp34-01050-00267711-00267967 structure is we'll take a quick quick GMzZwexXp34-01051-00267968-00268175 five minutes break and i'll be back GMzZwexXp34-01052-00268176-00268558 after five minutes at 11 5 i'm back GMzZwexXp34-01053-00268559-00268919 i think it's 11 11 o'clock now GMzZwexXp34-01054-00268920-00269103 thank you thank you so much in five GMzZwexXp34-01055-00269104-00269271 minutes i'll be back and we'll start GMzZwexXp34-01056-00269272-00269527 unit number five which is the structure GMzZwexXp34-01057-00269528-00269910 of 9001. 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GMzZwexXp34-01191-00300631-00300934 what it exactly means and what it tries GMzZwexXp34-01192-00300935-00301239 to convey so if you have any questions GMzZwexXp34-01193-00301240-00301423 please put it in the chat box i'm GMzZwexXp34-01194-00301424-00301663 requesting again and again to put it in GMzZwexXp34-01195-00301664-00301895 the chat box if you cannot you know GMzZwexXp34-01196-00301896-00302158 cannot view me cannot hear me or is that GMzZwexXp34-01197-00302159-00302415 if there is any problem with the sound GMzZwexXp34-01198-00302416-00302679 so especially in the online classes i'm GMzZwexXp34-01199-00302680-00302934 not able to see each one of you and i GMzZwexXp34-01200-00302935-00303199 cannot see how your expressions are what GMzZwexXp34-01201-00303200-00303454 is your response so if you don't respond GMzZwexXp34-01202-00303455-00303654 in the chat box i will never know GMzZwexXp34-01203-00303655-00303854 whether you are able to hear you are not 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month GMzZwexXp34-01234-00310344-00310663 that is why there for the clausewise i GMzZwexXp34-01235-00310664-00310919 did not go GMzZwexXp34-01236-00310920-00311206 just clause by clause instead i am going GMzZwexXp34-01237-00311207-00311439 to take it up in this clausewise GMzZwexXp34-01238-00311440-00311767 interpretation in 9001 in unit 5 also at GMzZwexXp34-01239-00311768-00311967 the end you will find that GMzZwexXp34-01240-00311968-00312271 there is clausewise clauses of the 9000 GMzZwexXp34-01241-00312272-00312551 is given so here we'll go move on to GMzZwexXp34-01242-00312552-00312767 clausewise explanation GMzZwexXp34-01243-00312768-00313206 of iso 9001 where scope general GMzZwexXp34-01244-00313207-00313487 application now here you will find that GMzZwexXp34-01245-00313488-00313854 every clause is given in detail GMzZwexXp34-01246-00313855-00314287 okay these are the clauses of 9001 GMzZwexXp34-01247-00314288-00314582 so if we start we will go to the scope GMzZwexXp34-01248-00314583-00314903 what it means in your material the page GMzZwexXp34-01249-00314904-00315358 number given is page number 49. GMzZwexXp34-01250-00315359-00315551 you you people who are referring to the GMzZwexXp34-01251-00315552-00315854 classes in your material you can go to GMzZwexXp34-01252-00315855-00316127 page number 49 of GMzZwexXp34-01253-00316128-00316271 unit 6 GMzZwexXp34-01254-00316272-00316551 where it deals with the GMzZwexXp34-01255-00316552-00316734 scope GMzZwexXp34-01256-00316735-00316999 first first clause is the scope clause GMzZwexXp34-01257-00317000-00317303 one is the scope we uh have already GMzZwexXp34-01258-00317304-00317543 discussed that there are eight clauses GMzZwexXp34-01259-00317544-00317847 total eight clauses are there first one GMzZwexXp34-01260-00317848-00318110 always in any quality management system GMzZwexXp34-01261-00318111-00318334 you will find the first clause will be GMzZwexXp34-01262-00318335-00318534 always on scope GMzZwexXp34-01263-00318535-00318775 now what is the scope means it is very GMzZwexXp34-01264-00318776-00319079 simple it just intends that where is GMzZwexXp34-01265-00319080-00319463 this standard going to be applied GMzZwexXp34-01266-00319464-00319727 so the scope says international standard GMzZwexXp34-01267-00319728-00319951 specifies requirement for quality GMzZwexXp34-01268-00319952-00320247 management system the requirements cover GMzZwexXp34-01269-00320248-00320447 what all is being covered in this GMzZwexXp34-01270-00320448-00320671 particular requirement that is given in GMzZwexXp34-01271-00320672-00320879 school GMzZwexXp34-01272-00320880-00321151 and clause number two is the list of GMzZwexXp34-01273-00321152-00321287 references GMzZwexXp34-01274-00321288-00321423 where GMzZwexXp34-01275-00321424-00321679 it says that what all references were GMzZwexXp34-01276-00321680-00322015 taken for creation of this standard now GMzZwexXp34-01277-00322016-00322382 why is this reference is always giving GMzZwexXp34-01278-00322383-00322734 the vocabulary you will find that you GMzZwexXp34-01279-00322735-00323023 always it will refer 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must measure the performance GMzZwexXp34-01309-00330272-00330495 of the process as a tool to continuously GMzZwexXp34-01310-00330496-00330654 improve them GMzZwexXp34-01311-00330655-00330975 ensure availability of resources monitor GMzZwexXp34-01312-00330976-00331254 measure and analyze these key processes GMzZwexXp34-01313-00331255-00331534 and finally implement actions necessary GMzZwexXp34-01314-00331535-00331927 that is a general requirement of a GMzZwexXp34-01315-00331928-00332143 management system that is why it is GMzZwexXp34-01316-00332144-00332430 given under 4.1 the general requirement GMzZwexXp34-01317-00332431-00332799 in 4.2 it moves on to say about the GMzZwexXp34-01318-00332800-00333054 documentation requirement GMzZwexXp34-01319-00333055-00333295 now documentation requirement GMzZwexXp34-01320-00333296-00333582 in the just the previous unit we have GMzZwexXp34-01321-00333583-00333871 already said that what are the top GMzZwexXp34-01322-00333872-00334110 requirements of the document talk about GMzZwexXp34-01323-00334111-00334303 statements of quality policy and party GMzZwexXp34-01324-00334304-00334503 objective now where will you put down GMzZwexXp34-01325-00334504-00334663 this document where will you put down GMzZwexXp34-01326-00334664-00334871 this quality policies and quality GMzZwexXp34-01327-00334872-00335167 objectives in the quality manual you GMzZwexXp34-01328-00335168-00335399 will find that the faulty manual GMzZwexXp34-01329-00335400-00335678 explains how the company has planned to GMzZwexXp34-01330-00335679-00335903 fulfill the requirements how is the GMzZwexXp34-01331-00335904-00336199 company going to achieve the policies GMzZwexXp34-01332-00336200-00336558 and objectives that is the multi-manual GMzZwexXp34-01333-00336559-00336887 documented procedures either the company GMzZwexXp34-01334-00336888-00337078 can write all these procedures in the GMzZwexXp34-01335-00337079-00337439 manual itself or the procedures can be GMzZwexXp34-01336-00337440-00337654 an additional document to which a GMzZwexXp34-01337-00337655-00337999 quality manual can refer to GMzZwexXp34-01338-00338000-00338487 the quality records also can be GMzZwexXp34-01339-00338488-00338630 mentioned there GMzZwexXp34-01340-00338631-00338934 then the description of the in GMzZwexXp34-01341-00338935-00339191 interaction between the processes GMzZwexXp34-01342-00339192-00339391 in general use and control of GMzZwexXp34-01343-00339392-00339751 documentation GMzZwexXp34-01344-00339752-00339967 in uh in general GMzZwexXp34-01345-00339968-00340214 it is the rules and GMzZwexXp34-01346-00340215-00340558 [Music] GMzZwexXp34-01347-00340559-00340775 control of documentation should be GMzZwexXp34-01348-00340776-00341006 evaluated with respect to effectiveness GMzZwexXp34-01349-00341007-00341247 and efficiency of the organization so GMzZwexXp34-01350-00341248-00341527 functionality user friendliness GMzZwexXp34-01351-00341528-00341815 resources needed policies current and GMzZwexXp34-01352-00341816-00342095 future requirements all these are GMzZwexXp34-01353-00342096-00342423 documented under quality manual GMzZwexXp34-01354-00342424-00342878 okay and then the control of documents GMzZwexXp34-01355-00342879-00343182 okay uh cp gyrajin has put a request GMzZwexXp34-01356-00343183-00343447 saying that kindly explain the latest GMzZwexXp34-01357-00343448-00343806 revision of 9001 2015. GMzZwexXp34-01358-00343807-00343991 um GMzZwexXp34-01359-00343992-00344263 sir i would like to GMzZwexXp34-01360-00344264-00344478 explain to you that we have to follow GMzZwexXp34-01361-00344479-00344743 the material which is provided by you GMzZwexXp34-01362-00344744-00344887 know because GMzZwexXp34-01363-00344888-00345334 uh based on this will all be your uh GMzZwexXp34-01364-00345335-00345503 assessment also which you have to GMzZwexXp34-01365-00345504-00345751 assignments also which you have to GMzZwexXp34-01366-00345752-00345943 submit everything will be the base on GMzZwexXp34-01367-00345944-00346134 the material which has been given by GMzZwexXp34-01368-00346135-00346495 ignore that is why i am following the uh GMzZwexXp34-01369-00346496-00346710 the units which has been covered and GMzZwexXp34-01370-00346711-00346919 which has been provided to us by the GMzZwexXp34-01371-00346920-00347230 ignore like specifically if GMzZwexXp34-01372-00347231-00347478 you go to the you know the most GMzZwexXp34-01373-00347479-00347719 important as far as GMzZwexXp34-01374-00347720-00347943 a testing part or uh GMzZwexXp34-01375-00347944-00348247 the your program is concerned which will GMzZwexXp34-01376-00348248-00348551 be the one seven zero two five the 2005 GMzZwexXp34-01377-00348552-00348778 version has been completely changed to GMzZwexXp34-01378-00348779-00349175 2017 version but still your material is GMzZwexXp34-01379-00349176-00349430 carrying the 2005 version the basic GMzZwexXp34-01380-00349431-00349703 principles remain the same GMzZwexXp34-01381-00349704-00349878 i would like to repeat the basic GMzZwexXp34-01382-00349879-00350119 principles of these standards remains GMzZwexXp34-01383-00350120-00350439 the same while certain requirements have GMzZwexXp34-01384-00350440-00350647 been revised because of the GMzZwexXp34-01385-00350648-00350927 recommendation by member countries and GMzZwexXp34-01386-00350928-00351175 for better understanding of the system 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GMzZwexXp34-01401-00354728-00354903 documents are GMzZwexXp34-01402-00354904-00355110 you know paid documents so i may not be GMzZwexXp34-01403-00355111-00355334 able to provide you also with a copy of GMzZwexXp34-01404-00355335-00355510 the latest versions because all these GMzZwexXp34-01405-00355511-00355782 are paid documents you can approach igno GMzZwexXp34-01406-00355783-00355903 for GMzZwexXp34-01407-00355904-00356087 you know the latest document if you want GMzZwexXp34-01408-00356088-00356343 but i i don't think they may be able to GMzZwexXp34-01409-00356344-00356623 provide it right now but uh if they can GMzZwexXp34-01410-00356624-00356806 provide it's well and good GMzZwexXp34-01411-00356807-00357078 but basically to understand the system i GMzZwexXp34-01412-00357079-00357223 think uh GMzZwexXp34-01413-00357224-00357399 the version which we are following is GMzZwexXp34-01414-00357400-00357534 also okay GMzZwexXp34-01415-00357535-00357734 so that we have an understanding of 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GMzZwexXp34-01445-00364800-00365078 responsibility to carry out the process GMzZwexXp34-01446-00365079-00365230 that is the meaning of control of GMzZwexXp34-01447-00365231-00365415 documents GMzZwexXp34-01448-00365416-00365719 and control of records every record that GMzZwexXp34-01449-00365720-00366015 is generated in a system should be we GMzZwexXp34-01450-00366016-00366287 should be able to identify it it should GMzZwexXp34-01451-00366288-00366454 be legible GMzZwexXp34-01452-00366455-00366678 and it should also carry there should be GMzZwexXp34-01453-00366679-00366927 a procedures to protect it it should GMzZwexXp34-01454-00366928-00367278 also carry the complete tracking details GMzZwexXp34-01455-00367279-00367454 what does it do what do you mean by the GMzZwexXp34-01456-00367455-00367710 tracking detail it means that whenever GMzZwexXp34-01457-00367711-00367910 you pick up a record from an GMzZwexXp34-01458-00367911-00368247 organization that record should tell GMzZwexXp34-01459-00368248-00368623 what it means that record is for what GMzZwexXp34-01460-00368624-00368815 what is the information given that GMzZwexXp34-01461-00368816-00368999 information given in the record should GMzZwexXp34-01462-00369000-00369263 be complete it should be what it means GMzZwexXp34-01463-00369264-00369534 who has done it on which date that GMzZwexXp34-01464-00369535-00369782 person has done and it should be legible GMzZwexXp34-01465-00369783-00370047 a person should be able to understand it GMzZwexXp34-01466-00370048-00370358 for example i give you um you know a GMzZwexXp34-01467-00370359-00370647 code storage of uh GMzZwexXp34-01468-00370648-00370871 of an ice cream factory a cold storage GMzZwexXp34-01469-00370872-00371047 of an ice cream factory is very GMzZwexXp34-01470-00371048-00371310 important because the products are going GMzZwexXp34-01471-00371311-00371599 to be stored there now there is a GMzZwexXp34-01472-00371600-00371927 a store man who is in charge of that or GMzZwexXp34-01473-00371928-00372206 who maintains the refrigeration GMzZwexXp34-01474-00372207-00372439 system of that store GMzZwexXp34-01475-00372440-00372510 and GMzZwexXp34-01476-00372511-00372719 the requirement the process requirement GMzZwexXp34-01477-00372720-00373127 does that every say four hours the GMzZwexXp34-01478-00373128-00373391 temperature has to be monitored and it GMzZwexXp34-01479-00373392-00373591 has to be recorded that is one of the GMzZwexXp34-01480-00373592-00373775 requirement suppose GMzZwexXp34-01481-00373776-00374039 now there will be a format for that GMzZwexXp34-01482-00374040-00374247 what will that format have in general GMzZwexXp34-01483-00374248-00374430 what all information should the format GMzZwexXp34-01484-00374431-00374623 have it should have a date GMzZwexXp34-01485-00374624-00374791 it should have a place to write the GMzZwexXp34-01486-00374792-00374927 temperature GMzZwexXp34-01487-00374928-00375182 it should also say what which GMzZwexXp34-01488-00375183-00375430 thermometer or the thermocouple or GMzZwexXp34-01489-00375431-00375719 whatever has been used for measuring the GMzZwexXp34-01490-00375720-00375895 temperature GMzZwexXp34-01491-00375896-00376078 if it is a fixed GMzZwexXp34-01492-00376079-00376375 therma i am in a measuring device GMzZwexXp34-01493-00376376-00376630 temperature measuring device it they can GMzZwexXp34-01494-00376631-00376847 say okay it is a fixed questioning GMzZwexXp34-01495-00376848-00376958 device GMzZwexXp34-01496-00376959-00377127 from the display it has to be written GMzZwexXp34-01497-00377128-00377382 now who has written down and at what GMzZwexXp34-01498-00377383-00377687 time has been written down GMzZwexXp34-01499-00377688-00377951 uh so that is what is called control of GMzZwexXp34-01500-00377952-00378263 recalls now all these uh records these GMzZwexXp34-01501-00378264-00378606 to be needs to be stored properly and GMzZwexXp34-01502-00378607-00378958 secured now how long these records needs GMzZwexXp34-01503-00378959-00379175 to be maintained that is also depends GMzZwexXp34-01504-00379176-00379519 upon the uh the organization their GMzZwexXp34-01505-00379520-00379815 policies and also if there is any GMzZwexXp34-01506-00379816-00380063 regulatory requirement that also needs GMzZwexXp34-01507-00380064-00380239 to be followed GMzZwexXp34-01508-00380240-00380423 now class fight GMzZwexXp34-01509-00380424-00380678 management responsibility management GMzZwexXp34-01510-00380679-00380847 responsibilities GMzZwexXp34-01511-00380848-00381095 the commitment that i have been telling GMzZwexXp34-01512-00381096-00381254 all through GMzZwexXp34-01513-00381255-00381439 if the commitment from the management is GMzZwexXp34-01514-00381440-00381734 not there then there is no no way that a GMzZwexXp34-01515-00381735-00382006 management system will be successful it GMzZwexXp34-01516-00382007-00382223 will achieve its objective GMzZwexXp34-01517-00382224-00382447 so what is the commitment given by the GMzZwexXp34-01518-00382448-00382695 management that all the resources GMzZwexXp34-01519-00382696-00383039 available will be provided at the time GMzZwexXp34-01520-00383040-00383263 there won't be any interference it will GMzZwexXp34-01521-00383264-00383478 be done impartially the GMzZwexXp34-01522-00383479-00383678 work will be allowed to be function GMzZwexXp34-01523-00383679-00383934 impartially now what is customer focus GMzZwexXp34-01524-00383935-00384151 customer focus has to be GMzZwexXp34-01525-00384152-00384327 there to GMzZwexXp34-01526-00384328-00384510 answer to the requirements of the GMzZwexXp34-01527-00384511-00384702 customer GMzZwexXp34-01528-00384703-00384919 okay answer to the requirements of the GMzZwexXp34-01529-00384920-00385223 customer is what needs to be done GMzZwexXp34-01530-00385224-00385534 quality policy again what is the policy GMzZwexXp34-01531-00385535-00385663 of the uh GMzZwexXp34-01532-00385664-00385847 management has to be the quality GMzZwexXp34-01533-00385848-00386143 policies are all often signed by the top GMzZwexXp34-01534-00386144-00386382 management which shows the commitment of GMzZwexXp34-01535-00386383-00386663 the top management towards the quality GMzZwexXp34-01536-00386664-00386934 management system GMzZwexXp34-01537-00386935-00387215 now planning again you know GMzZwexXp34-01538-00387216-00387487 if i i know you must be also getting GMzZwexXp34-01539-00387488-00387775 bored of listening to the pdca cycle but GMzZwexXp34-01540-00387776-00388071 if you keep the pdca cycle you will be GMzZwexXp34-01541-00388072-00388415 able to handle almost all the management GMzZwexXp34-01542-00388416-00388695 systems that is again planning GMzZwexXp34-01543-00388696-00389063 plan do check and act that is the pdca GMzZwexXp34-01544-00389064-00389334 cycle GMzZwexXp34-01545-00389335-00389591 so planning so five the class number GMzZwexXp34-01546-00389592-00389878 five also has planning 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defined what are the authorities given GMzZwexXp34-01561-00393679-00393951 what are the rules that specific uh GMzZwexXp34-01562-00393952-00394167 person is going to carry out and that GMzZwexXp34-01563-00394168-00394447 has to be communicated it is not that GMzZwexXp34-01564-00394448-00394663 you that person should understand and GMzZwexXp34-01565-00394664-00394878 don't know the communication should go GMzZwexXp34-01566-00394879-00395158 from the management to the bottom level GMzZwexXp34-01567-00395159-00395423 person that what is his role what is his GMzZwexXp34-01568-00395424-00395727 responsibility and what he is supposed GMzZwexXp34-01569-00395728-00395887 to do GMzZwexXp34-01570-00395888-00396167 then the management representative top GMzZwexXp34-01571-00396168-00396391 management must appoint a representative GMzZwexXp34-01572-00396392-00396647 from own management responsible and GMzZwexXp34-01573-00396648-00396839 authorized for GMzZwexXp34-01574-00396840-00396919 like GMzZwexXp34-01575-00396920-00397119 there has to be a representative either GMzZwexXp34-01576-00397120-00397415 the top management himself or herself GMzZwexXp34-01577-00397416-00397678 should be taking the responsibility or GMzZwexXp34-01578-00397679-00397927 if it is a huge chain of you know GMzZwexXp34-01579-00397928-00398199 companies like for example if we take a GMzZwexXp34-01580-00398200-00398391 reliance group of company GMzZwexXp34-01581-00398392-00398671 if the you know the money cannot handle GMzZwexXp34-01582-00398672-00398927 everything himself he has to have GMzZwexXp34-01583-00398928-00399127 representative and each it is a GMzZwexXp34-01584-00399128-00399247 conglomerate GMzZwexXp34-01585-00399248-00399471 isn't it conglomerate means one they GMzZwexXp34-01586-00399472-00399710 have various kinds of industries under GMzZwexXp34-01587-00399711-00399975 them so every industry will have their GMzZwexXp34-01588-00399976-00400327 own uh top person that top person will GMzZwexXp34-01589-00400328-00400582 be the representing the management of GMzZwexXp34-01590-00400583-00400902 that factory like that or if it is only GMzZwexXp34-01591-00400903-00401199 a very small organization where one GMzZwexXp34-01592-00401200-00401430 person is handling that person himself GMzZwexXp34-01593-00401431-00401671 can be the representative or that person GMzZwexXp34-01594-00401672-00401895 in himself can be involved in the GMzZwexXp34-01595-00401896-00402134 day-to-day activity GMzZwexXp34-01596-00402135-00402343 internal communication is the GMzZwexXp34-01597-00402344-00402582 communication takes place within the GMzZwexXp34-01598-00402583-00402806 personnel in the organization GMzZwexXp34-01599-00402807-00403095 then the management review as earlier i GMzZwexXp34-01600-00403096-00403239 said i GMzZwexXp34-01601-00403240-00403478 initiate the old manager GMzZwexXp34-01602-00403479-00403734 scheduled manner a management review GMzZwexXp34-01603-00403735-00403982 should take place review what all will GMzZwexXp34-01604-00403983-00404247 be discussed in the review has to be GMzZwexXp34-01605-00404248-00404543 there there is an agenda prepared what GMzZwexXp34-01606-00404544-00404710 will be discussed during the management GMzZwexXp34-01607-00404711-00404975 review meeting and what is the output of GMzZwexXp34-01608-00404976-00405063 that GMzZwexXp34-01609-00405064-00405334 even the output of the review has to be GMzZwexXp34-01610-00405335-00405695 documented now every process that GMzZwexXp34-01611-00405696-00406087 without whether i mention it whether the GMzZwexXp34-01612-00406088-00406334 material is mentioning it or not just GMzZwexXp34-01613-00406335-00406695 keep it in mind that every process has GMzZwexXp34-01614-00406696-00406934 to be documented and there has to be GMzZwexXp34-01615-00406935-00407295 records only then the objective of the GMzZwexXp34-01616-00407296-00407575 management system will be achieved GMzZwexXp34-01617-00407576-00407639 now GMzZwexXp34-01618-00407640-00407839 uh class number six GMzZwexXp34-01619-00407840-00408078 is the resource whatever resources are GMzZwexXp34-01620-00408079-00408382 required a very important resource is a GMzZwexXp34-01621-00408383-00408527 human resource GMzZwexXp34-01622-00408528-00408687 okay GMzZwexXp34-01623-00408688-00408975 and then you need to what are the GMzZwexXp34-01624-00408976-00409271 what all kind of competence is required GMzZwexXp34-01625-00409272-00409582 so an organization can have various GMzZwexXp34-01626-00409583-00409855 kinds of levels of people it can have GMzZwexXp34-01627-00409856-00410174 the senior most person as the in charge GMzZwexXp34-01628-00410175-00410478 of a division complete division and then GMzZwexXp34-01629-00410479-00410678 under that division can be small small GMzZwexXp34-01630-00410679-00411039 units each section can have their heads GMzZwexXp34-01631-00411039-00411222 like that so GMzZwexXp34-01632-00411223-00411487 the competence awareness and training GMzZwexXp34-01633-00411488-00411726 requirements will depend upon the GMzZwexXp34-01634-00411727-00412014 activity or the responsibility the GMzZwexXp34-01635-00412015-00412318 management gives to that particular GMzZwexXp34-01636-00412319-00412430 person GMzZwexXp34-01637-00412431-00412726 okay so if a section in charge GMzZwexXp34-01638-00412727-00412910 like has to be GMzZwexXp34-01639-00412912-00413063 of the complete GMzZwexXp34-01640-00413064-00413287 the complete laboratory for laboratory GMzZwexXp34-01641-00413288-00413543 head has to be taken obviously that GMzZwexXp34-01642-00413543-00413695 person should be GMzZwexXp34-01643-00413696-00413822 aware of GMzZwexXp34-01644-00413823-00414047 or he should be competent and he should GMzZwexXp34-01645-00414047-00414303 be aware of all the sections that are GMzZwexXp34-01646-00414304-00414503 under him supposing there are GMzZwexXp34-01647-00414504-00414718 say five sections there is a mechanical GMzZwexXp34-01648-00414719-00414934 testing section there is a chemical GMzZwexXp34-01649-00414935-00415110 testing section there is a biological GMzZwexXp34-01650-00415112-00415422 testing section so the lab head should GMzZwexXp34-01651-00415423-00415774 be a person who knows who's aware about GMzZwexXp34-01652-00415775-00416030 all these sections only then he can sit GMzZwexXp34-01653-00416031-00416343 as a head of that organization GMzZwexXp34-01654-00416343-00416599 similarly if there is a section in GMzZwexXp34-01655-00416600-00416870 charge for a chemical testing section GMzZwexXp34-01656-00416871-00416991 that GMzZwexXp34-01657-00416992-00417278 in charge should know well about all the GMzZwexXp34-01658-00417279-00417599 testing facility or all the uh GMzZwexXp34-01659-00417600-00417807 activity which is done but now the GMzZwexXp34-01660-00417808-00418055 question will come should he be able to GMzZwexXp34-01661-00418056-00418334 do each and ever no not required he GMzZwexXp34-01662-00418335-00418639 should be aware he should know what GMzZwexXp34-01663-00418639-00418895 things when it goes wrong or the people GMzZwexXp34-01664-00418896-00419095 who are working under him GMzZwexXp34-01665-00419096-00419326 if they make a mistake if something is GMzZwexXp34-01666-00419327-00419591 going wrong he should be able to GMzZwexXp34-01667-00419592-00419863 understand the deviation and that is GMzZwexXp34-01668-00419864-00420118 what is called competence the person who GMzZwexXp34-01669-00420119-00420455 can who has the capability to understand GMzZwexXp34-01670-00420456-00420759 the competence awareness and training of GMzZwexXp34-01671-00420760-00420983 each and every person involved in the GMzZwexXp34-01672-00420984-00421118 system should be GMzZwexXp34-01673-00421119-00421343 identified it again it needs to be GMzZwexXp34-01674-00421343-00421743 documented and it has to be followed GMzZwexXp34-01675-00421743-00421991 then the infrastructure which is very GMzZwexXp34-01676-00421992-00422183 important you are the best people in the GMzZwexXp34-01677-00422184-00422343 world but if you don't have a good GMzZwexXp34-01678-00422343-00422670 infrastructure it does of no use GMzZwexXp34-01679-00422671-00422983 we see this often in the in the you know GMzZwexXp34-01680-00422984-00423159 the government systems GMzZwexXp34-01681-00423160-00423439 many places you will find that they have GMzZwexXp34-01682-00423439-00423718 so much learned people with them but GMzZwexXp34-01683-00423719-00423991 there is no proper infrastructure to GMzZwexXp34-01684-00423992-00424239 deliver their capability GMzZwexXp34-01685-00424239-00424535 so the capability to be delivered you GMzZwexXp34-01686-00424535-00424751 have to provide good infrastructure GMzZwexXp34-01687-00424752-00425014 management is responsible for that okay GMzZwexXp34-01688-00425015-00425207 that again the management commitment GMzZwexXp34-01689-00425208-00425327 comes there GMzZwexXp34-01690-00425328-00425559 like the buildings the area the GMzZwexXp34-01691-00425560-00425822 separation between activities approach GMzZwexXp34-01692-00425823-00426110 the safety all this comes under the GMzZwexXp34-01693-00426112-00426318 infrastructure GMzZwexXp34-01694-00426319-00426583 now the work environment environment to GMzZwexXp34-01695-00426584-00426814 achieve the conformity to product GMzZwexXp34-01696-00426815-00427207 requirements it has to be good otherwise GMzZwexXp34-01697-00427208-00427439 it will that environment is also very GMzZwexXp34-01698-00427439-00427559 very GMzZwexXp34-01699-00427560-00427727 important because GMzZwexXp34-01700-00427728-00427951 the after all it is the people who are GMzZwexXp34-01701-00427952-00428087 working there GMzZwexXp34-01702-00428088-00428383 so if the people who are working is not GMzZwexXp34-01703-00428384-00428695 satisfied or not happy with the work GMzZwexXp34-01704-00428696-00428935 enjoyment you will never get good GMzZwexXp34-01705-00428935-00429087 quality product GMzZwexXp34-01706-00429088-00429310 so that work environment is also GMzZwexXp34-01707-00429312-00429439 important GMzZwexXp34-01708-00429439-00429670 next is the clause 7 GMzZwexXp34-01709-00429671-00429807 which is GMzZwexXp34-01710-00429808-00430110 the product realization now the plan of GMzZwexXp34-01711-00430112-00430383 product realization here you will find GMzZwexXp34-01712-00430384-00430687 that the product or the process starts GMzZwexXp34-01713-00430688-00430983 from class seven GMzZwexXp34-01714-00430984-00431463 product realization needs to be GMzZwexXp34-01715-00431464-00431751 it has to be executed perfectly GMzZwexXp34-01716-00431752-00432022 again here you will find that 7.1 is GMzZwexXp34-01717-00432023-00432255 further first the planning GMzZwexXp34-01718-00432256-00432479 each process needs to be planned GMzZwexXp34-01719-00432480-00432918 perfectly then 7.2 you will see page 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control it's all related to one GMzZwexXp34-01765-00443608-00443839 particular product if you take then you GMzZwexXp34-01766-00443839-00444103 will understand what it all means GMzZwexXp34-01767-00444104-00444359 then it comes to purchasing 7.4 is GMzZwexXp34-01768-00444360-00444614 regarding the purchasing purchasing GMzZwexXp34-01769-00444615-00444791 process now GMzZwexXp34-01770-00444792-00445014 why is purchasing process under this GMzZwexXp34-01771-00445015-00445279 management system why should purchase be GMzZwexXp34-01772-00445280-00445495 addressed by any management system the GMzZwexXp34-01773-00445496-00445622 reason is GMzZwexXp34-01774-00445623-00445910 if you don't have a proper purchasing GMzZwexXp34-01775-00445912-00446175 policy you will not have a GMzZwexXp34-01776-00446176-00446366 perfect product GMzZwexXp34-01777-00446367-00446695 because it depends upon the quality of GMzZwexXp34-01778-00446696-00446887 the products that you are 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GMzZwexXp34-01807-00454256-00454518 will personally also will pay one i want GMzZwexXp34-01808-00454519-00454783 to get it done by a GMzZwexXp34-01809-00454784-00454983 say graduate engineer GMzZwexXp34-01810-00454984-00455199 i i don't want anybody less than an GMzZwexXp34-01811-00455200-00455399 engineer to touch my instruments and GMzZwexXp34-01812-00455400-00455518 work on it GMzZwexXp34-01813-00455519-00455718 that can be a requirement purchasing GMzZwexXp34-01814-00455719-00456014 information verification on the purchase GMzZwexXp34-01815-00456015-00456222 product once you have purchased a GMzZwexXp34-01816-00456223-00456447 product now you have to verify for GMzZwexXp34-01817-00456447-00456663 example if a GMzZwexXp34-01818-00456664-00456927 food factory buys a oval GMzZwexXp34-01819-00456928-00457231 for baking its product what will be the GMzZwexXp34-01820-00457232-00457351 requirement GMzZwexXp34-01821-00457352-00457647 it's very simple no anybody can guess 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GMzZwexXp34-01836-00460976-00461191 can be there how you control the GMzZwexXp34-01837-00461192-00461303 production GMzZwexXp34-01838-00461304-00461399 okay GMzZwexXp34-01839-00461400-00461622 and the validation of the processes for GMzZwexXp34-01840-00461623-00461831 all the processes that are involved in GMzZwexXp34-01841-00461832-00462127 production and service provision GMzZwexXp34-01842-00462128-00462351 the methods the identification and GMzZwexXp34-01843-00462352-00462622 traceability of each and every step the GMzZwexXp34-01844-00462623-00462879 customer property the preservation of GMzZwexXp34-01845-00462880-00463039 the product how GMzZwexXp34-01846-00463039-00463359 uh you know how it should be handled GMzZwexXp34-01847-00463360-00463599 during the processing and all that it GMzZwexXp34-01848-00463600-00463814 has to be preserved also isn't it the GMzZwexXp34-01849-00463815-00464063 process the product has to be delivered GMzZwexXp34-01850-00464064-00464327 properly otherwise there is there is no GMzZwexXp34-01851-00464328-00464583 point in having the best product if it GMzZwexXp34-01852-00464584-00464807 is not delivered it doesn't reach the GMzZwexXp34-01853-00464808-00465118 customer safely and good shape then it GMzZwexXp34-01854-00465119-00465422 is of no use however good the product GMzZwexXp34-01855-00465423-00465614 control of monitoring and measuring GMzZwexXp34-01856-00465615-00465783 devices GMzZwexXp34-01857-00465784-00466014 now there can be so many monitoring GMzZwexXp34-01858-00466015-00466239 devices and measuring devices you need GMzZwexXp34-01859-00466239-00466503 to have a control what is the control GMzZwexXp34-01860-00466504-00466766 control is to check the GMzZwexXp34-01861-00466767-00466887 complete GMzZwexXp34-01862-00466888-00466983 um GMzZwexXp34-01863-00466984-00467143 checking of the GMzZwexXp34-01864-00467143-00467399 devices that is you have to safeguard GMzZwexXp34-01865-00467400-00467710 the instruments and also you have to GMzZwexXp34-01866-00467712-00467966 check that whatever is your specified GMzZwexXp34-01867-00467967-00468207 thing whether it is being achieved or GMzZwexXp34-01868-00468208-00468351 not GMzZwexXp34-01869-00468352-00468599 if it is sitting you are sitting at 180 GMzZwexXp34-01870-00468600-00468870 degrees say you have set the oven at 180 GMzZwexXp34-01871-00468871-00469083 degrees its a factory which is making GMzZwexXp34-01872-00469084-00469463 biscuits a biscuit factory will require GMzZwexXp34-01873-00469464-00469775 oven where they are baking their uh GMzZwexXp34-01874-00469776-00469991 you know biscuits or cookies at 180 GMzZwexXp34-01875-00469992-00470263 degree for one hour now 180 degree if GMzZwexXp34-01876-00470264-00470455 you are setting it up it is showing this GMzZwexXp34-01877-00470456-00470766 plate at 180 but actually it is 200. GMzZwexXp34-01878-00470767-00470935 it's of noise GMzZwexXp34-01879-00470935-00471255 it may turn up that it gets charged so GMzZwexXp34-01880-00471256-00471447 the verification that specified GMzZwexXp34-01881-00471447-00471710 intervals should be there to maintain GMzZwexXp34-01882-00471712-00471951 the confidence in the process which what GMzZwexXp34-01883-00471952-00472175 you are doing GMzZwexXp34-01884-00472176-00472447 now clause 8 is measurement analysis and GMzZwexXp34-01885-00472447-00472751 improvement as the name itself says GMzZwexXp34-01886-00472752-00473110 how to improve it now once it is set up GMzZwexXp34-01887-00473112-00473359 that is why you will always see that GMzZwexXp34-01888-00473360-00473575 these food fractions they always comes GMzZwexXp34-01889-00473576-00473855 out with the improved product there is GMzZwexXp34-01890-00473856-00474079 some flavor enhancement or there is GMzZwexXp34-01891-00474080-00474351 always a change in the taste or you know GMzZwexXp34-01892-00474352-00474518 ready to eat products which is the GMzZwexXp34-01893-00474519-00474759 package products and all they keep on GMzZwexXp34-01894-00474760-00475047 working on new product development that GMzZwexXp34-01895-00475047-00475255 is why you will find that the spice GMzZwexXp34-01896-00475256-00475622 market in the spice industry various GMzZwexXp34-01897-00475623-00475870 kinds of combinations of spices are GMzZwexXp34-01898-00475871-00476159 there like fish masalas that meat masala GMzZwexXp34-01899-00476160-00476366 is then finally the basic spices are GMzZwexXp34-01900-00476367-00476663 same but how you blend it in a perfect GMzZwexXp34-01901-00476664-00476966 way to come out with the perfect GMzZwexXp34-01902-00476967-00477270 requirement of a customer or to satisfy GMzZwexXp34-01903-00477271-00477431 a customer's requirement you have to GMzZwexXp34-01904-00477432-00477766 keep on improving what you have GMzZwexXp34-01905-00477767-00477943 that's discovered under measurement GMzZwexXp34-01906-00477943-00478135 analysis and improvement improvement of GMzZwexXp34-01907-00478135-00478431 your processes and monitoring how you GMzZwexXp34-01908-00478432-00478670 monitor and measurement of the process GMzZwexXp34-01909-00478671-00479391 everything is covered under that GMzZwexXp34-01910-00479392-00479647 sometimes you will find that there is a GMzZwexXp34-01911-00479647-00479935 non-conforming activity has taken place GMzZwexXp34-01912-00479935-00480183 now what do you do when such an action GMzZwexXp34-01913-00480184-00480463 is reported that is under GMzZwexXp34-01914-00480464-00480631 addressed under control of GMzZwexXp34-01915-00480632-00480870 non-conforming product GMzZwexXp34-01916-00480871-00481143 the a company should ensure that the GMzZwexXp34-01917-00481143-00481391 product non-conforming requirement is GMzZwexXp34-01918-00481392-00481703 identified it should be identified and GMzZwexXp34-01919-00481704-00481943 then control how do you control it you GMzZwexXp34-01920-00481943-00482199 have to take an immediate action on what GMzZwexXp34-01921-00482200-00482510 went wrong you have to identify what GMzZwexXp34-01922-00482512-00482999 petron to get a wrong product and then GMzZwexXp34-01923-00483000-00483270 and then later on you have to find that GMzZwexXp34-01924-00483271-00483470 now you have understood what went wrong GMzZwexXp34-01925-00483471-00483695 you are what will you do with that you GMzZwexXp34-01926-00483696-00483918 have understood what has gone wrong so GMzZwexXp34-01927-00483919-00484166 supposing it was the temperature of the GMzZwexXp34-01928-00484167-00484359 milk or temperature of the butter or GMzZwexXp34-01929-00484360-00484599 temperature of the oil which was which GMzZwexXp34-01930-00484600-00484791 has gone wrong so GMzZwexXp34-01931-00484792-00484999 it means that the GMzZwexXp34-01932-00485000-00485143 the fryer GMzZwexXp34-01933-00485143-00485431 had some problem so you correct it that GMzZwexXp34-01934-00485432-00485703 correction was done now nations want to GMzZwexXp34-01935-00485704-00486031 control it you have to put a methodology GMzZwexXp34-01936-00486032-00486375 in place it should not get repeated GMzZwexXp34-01937-00486376-00486687 okay you uh the very simple thing in GMzZwexXp34-01938-00486688-00486935 food products uh we don't come across i GMzZwexXp34-01939-00486935-00487222 have not come across a recalling uh GMzZwexXp34-01940-00487223-00487559 in a huge state other than the nestle GMzZwexXp34-01941-00487560-00487814 you would have heard the nestle case all GMzZwexXp34-01942-00487815-00487959 of you i'm sure GMzZwexXp34-01943-00487960-00488247 that maggie issue was there the maggie GMzZwexXp34-01944-00488247-00488470 noodles was recalled GMzZwexXp34-01945-00488471-00488766 why because there was some issue with GMzZwexXp34-01946-00488767-00489070 content and all that and also some msg GMzZwexXp34-01947-00489071-00489183 content GMzZwexXp34-01948-00489184-00489575 so it was recalled and so many uh maggie GMzZwexXp34-01949-00489576-00489847 packets were destroyed and then it was GMzZwexXp34-01950-00489847-00490166 the root cause was identified whether it GMzZwexXp34-01951-00490167-00490447 was a real problem or it was uh you know GMzZwexXp34-01952-00490447-00490735 it was a problem that question i cannot GMzZwexXp34-01953-00490735-00490918 answer because i am not an expert on GMzZwexXp34-01954-00490919-00490999 that GMzZwexXp34-01955-00491000-00491279 but i if you just take it as an example GMzZwexXp34-01956-00491280-00491470 yet like the real thing which has GMzZwexXp34-01957-00491471-00491662 happened this is what has happened that GMzZwexXp34-01958-00491663-00491918 there was some non-conformity identified GMzZwexXp34-01959-00491919-00492166 then the company goes back to check from GMzZwexXp34-01960-00492167-00492431 where did this non-conformity happen and GMzZwexXp34-01961-00492432-00492631 then make a correction GMzZwexXp34-01962-00492632-00492927 put a process in place so that this GMzZwexXp34-01963-00492928-00493151 mistake is not repeated because it's a GMzZwexXp34-01964-00493152-00493455 huge loss for a company that is called GMzZwexXp34-01965-00493456-00493775 control of non-conforming product GMzZwexXp34-01966-00493776-00494070 analysis of data analysis of data is the GMzZwexXp34-01967-00494071-00494343 complete recording what we do it has to GMzZwexXp34-01968-00494343-00494631 be always analyzed starting from GMzZwexXp34-01969-00494632-00494887 customer satisfaction also has to be GMzZwexXp34-01970-00494888-00494999 analyzed GMzZwexXp34-01971-00495000-00495191 improvement we have GMzZwexXp34-01972-00495192-00495391 talked about improvement so many times GMzZwexXp34-01973-00495392-00495566 the corrective action and the continual GMzZwexXp34-01974-00495567-00495710 improvement of a GMzZwexXp34-01975-00495712-00495935 factory preventive action now what is GMzZwexXp34-01976-00495935-00496214 preventive action preventive action is GMzZwexXp34-01977-00496215-00496518 a mistake has not happened before the GMzZwexXp34-01978-00496519-00496879 mistake happens we are putting up action GMzZwexXp34-01979-00496880-00497159 a preventive action in place so that it GMzZwexXp34-01980-00497160-00497414 does not happen the best example in GMzZwexXp34-01981-00497415-00497622 today's um GMzZwexXp34-01982-00497623-00497822 scenario will be the vaccine that is GMzZwexXp34-01983-00497823-00498087 being taken for government GMzZwexXp34-01984-00498088-00498391 a vaccine is a preventive measure it is GMzZwexXp34-01985-00498392-00498614 not a corrective measure it is a GMzZwexXp34-01986-00498615-00498791 preventive measure you are taking a GMzZwexXp34-01987-00498792-00498999 vaccine so that you do not get GMzZwexXp34-01988-00499000-00499231 open-minded okay GMzZwexXp34-01989-00499232-00499431 vaccination is always a preventive GMzZwexXp34-01990-00499432-00499607 action similarly GMzZwexXp34-01991-00499608-00499839 the servicing what they do for our GMzZwexXp34-01992-00499839-00500239 vehicles and all is a preventive measure GMzZwexXp34-01993-00500239-00500479 so a preventive measures are put in GMzZwexXp34-01994-00500480-00500783 place so that a non-conformity does not GMzZwexXp34-01995-00500784-00500895 happen GMzZwexXp34-01996-00500896-00501175 but if a non-conformity happens then it GMzZwexXp34-01997-00501176-00501414 is always a corrective action you can GMzZwexXp34-01998-00501415-00501647 only correct it once it happens GMzZwexXp34-01999-00501647-00501887 okay so all the actions that you put in GMzZwexXp34-02000-00501888-00502175 place before a non-conformity happens is GMzZwexXp34-02001-00502176-00502422 called preventive action and anything GMzZwexXp34-02002-00502423-00502703 that have not been put in place after a GMzZwexXp34-02003-00502704-00503039 mistake or a wrong product has come in GMzZwexXp34-02004-00503039-00503279 market it's all corrective action so GMzZwexXp34-02005-00503280-00503399 that is the difference between GMzZwexXp34-02006-00503400-00503743 preventive action and correct direction GMzZwexXp34-02007-00503743-00503935 with that i think we have covered the GMzZwexXp34-02008-00503935-00504127 clauses of GMzZwexXp34-02009-00504128-00504527 this unit that is unit number six GMzZwexXp34-02010-00504528-00504639 we can GMzZwexXp34-02011-00504639-00504991 go to unit number seven it is at least a GMzZwexXp34-02012-00504992-00505287 part of it GMzZwexXp34-02013-00505288-00505583 i can cover today so that GMzZwexXp34-02014-00505584-00505766 you know uh GMzZwexXp34-02015-00505767-00506007 sector-wise this case study GMzZwexXp34-02016-00506008-00506270 if all of you are available we will GMzZwexXp34-02017-00506271-00506479 start with the um GMzZwexXp34-02018-00506480-00506759 case study of this 2001 GMzZwexXp34-02019-00506760-00507095 9 000 1000 case studies that is based on GMzZwexXp34-02020-00507096-00507270 engineering job work organization GMzZwexXp34-02021-00507271-00507470 software development organization GMzZwexXp34-02022-00507471-00507679 enterprise sector wise case studies has GMzZwexXp34-02023-00507680-00507975 been taken up it's not a very GMzZwexXp34-02024-00507976-00508095 big GMzZwexXp34-02025-00508096-00508591 unit if we can if you people are still GMzZwexXp34-02026-00508592-00508935 available then i can actually GMzZwexXp34-02027-00508935-00509166 move on and take this unit also i can GMzZwexXp34-02028-00509167-00509343 see 20 people GMzZwexXp34-02029-00509343-00509631 uh as promised i can get back to you in GMzZwexXp34-02030-00509632-00509807 just five minutes we'll take a quick GMzZwexXp34-02031-00509808-00510055 five minutes break but uh the session GMzZwexXp34-02032-00510056-00510391 will get slightly prolonged it GMzZwexXp34-02033-00510392-00510462 it GMzZwexXp34-02034-00510463-00510703 if you're it's okay with you we can if GMzZwexXp34-02035-00510704-00511031 you can sit up with me for uh till 12 45 GMzZwexXp34-02036-00511032-00511175 maybe we can GMzZwexXp34-02037-00511176-00511503 quickly finish this section seven also GMzZwexXp34-02038-00511504-00511807 i hope it's okay with you so GMzZwexXp34-02039-00511808-00512095 yes uh srilakshmi has responded yes we GMzZwexXp34-02040-00512096-00512327 can continue so i hope that is the GMzZwexXp34-02041-00512328-00512566 message which all of you are giving me GMzZwexXp34-02042-00512567-00512870 that we can continue just a quick five GMzZwexXp34-02043-00512871-00513143 minute wait and we'll continue and i GMzZwexXp34-02044-00513143-00513431 promise you to uh finish it off by say GMzZwexXp34-02045-00513432-00513575 12 45 GMzZwexXp34-02046-00513576-00513847 and please let me know when after five GMzZwexXp34-02047-00513847-00514135 minutes i am not audible or if there is GMzZwexXp34-02048-00514135-00514303 any problem please let me know GMzZwexXp34-02049-00514304-00514447 immediately GMzZwexXp34-02050-00514447-00514622 thank you GMzZwexXp34-02051-00514623-00515055 so shall we start with our unit seven GMzZwexXp34-02052-00515056-00516727 i hope all of you are back GMzZwexXp34-02053-00516728-00516903 saying yes ma'am okay GMzZwexXp34-02054-00516904-00517143 so we'll start in this GMzZwexXp34-02055-00517143-00517566 unit which is unit 7 is is a small unit GMzZwexXp34-02056-00517567-00517751 here they have given GMzZwexXp34-02057-00517752-00517983 two examples basically GMzZwexXp34-02058-00517984-00518287 an engineering job work organization and GMzZwexXp34-02059-00518288-00518566 a software development organization how GMzZwexXp34-02060-00518567-00518766 it is setting up the GMzZwexXp34-02061-00518767-00518918 9001 GMzZwexXp34-02062-00518919-00519087 management system GMzZwexXp34-02063-00519088-00519231 so in GMzZwexXp34-02064-00519232-00519510 the if we go to this uh with your GMzZwexXp34-02065-00519512-00519799 material the page number 65 the unit 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previous uh unit that GMzZwexXp34-02124-00534744-00534879 the first one is the general GMzZwexXp34-02125-00534880-00535166 requirements now in this the last column GMzZwexXp34-02126-00535167-00535455 you find that such an organization can GMzZwexXp34-02127-00535456-00535655 treat the entire organization as one GMzZwexXp34-02128-00535656-00535879 process and define key inputs and GMzZwexXp34-02129-00535880-00536095 outputs to be monitored measured GMzZwexXp34-02130-00536096-00536311 appropriately the departments can be GMzZwexXp34-02131-00536312-00536566 treated as series of activities to GMzZwexXp34-02132-00536567-00536799 optimize the documentation and have GMzZwexXp34-02133-00536800-00537103 pragmatic post focus GMzZwexXp34-02134-00537104-00537343 what does it mean it means that what is GMzZwexXp34-02135-00537344-00537639 the general requirement of the community GMzZwexXp34-02136-00537640-00537911 complete organization can be treated GMzZwexXp34-02137-00537912-00538279 entire organization GMzZwexXp34-02138-00538280-00538679 can be treated as one process okay and GMzZwexXp34-02139-00538680-00538862 can be defined under the general GMzZwexXp34-02140-00538863-00539031 requirements so what will be the general GMzZwexXp34-02141-00539032-00539270 requirements will be given there GMzZwexXp34-02142-00539271-00539422 4.2.1 GMzZwexXp34-02143-00539423-00539639 documentation general requirements what GMzZwexXp34-02144-00539640-00539807 will be the general documentation GMzZwexXp34-02145-00539808-00540055 requirements the requirement consists of GMzZwexXp34-02146-00540056-00540327 the quality manual we saw that the GMzZwexXp34-02147-00540328-00540535 documentation requirement the peak of GMzZwexXp34-02148-00540536-00540751 the documentation requirement is what GMzZwexXp34-02149-00540752-00541039 the quality manual and then the process GMzZwexXp34-02150-00541040-00541270 inter relationship diagram and records GMzZwexXp34-02151-00541271-00541583 required to be maintained 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GMzZwexXp34-02166-00545119-00545447 uh process as a one process the entire GMzZwexXp34-02167-00545448-00545807 organization GMzZwexXp34-02168-00545808-00546039 micro category hence the quality manual GMzZwexXp34-02169-00546040-00546343 can include the mandatory procedure GMzZwexXp34-02170-00546344-00546535 instead of referring to them in the GMzZwexXp34-02171-00546536-00546743 quality manual the total pages in the GMzZwexXp34-02172-00546744-00547031 manual may not exceed 25 pages GMzZwexXp34-02173-00547032-00547262 that is just an example okay the total GMzZwexXp34-02174-00547263-00547535 pages in the manual may not exceed 25 GMzZwexXp34-02175-00547536-00547839 pages is not uh they have given this one GMzZwexXp34-02176-00547840-00548143 as an example now what does it say that GMzZwexXp34-02177-00548144-00548439 whatever procedures are there the GMzZwexXp34-02178-00548440-00548687 requirement can be GMzZwexXp34-02179-00548688-00549079 included in the manual itself or what is 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happen GMzZwexXp34-02398-00602084-00602375 okay we have discussed in detail what a GMzZwexXp34-02399-00602376-00602518 corrective action and a preventive GMzZwexXp34-02400-00602519-00602887 action is same thing is again given here GMzZwexXp34-02401-00602888-00603079 that at most important should be given GMzZwexXp34-02402-00603080-00603262 to a customer complain and record of GMzZwexXp34-02403-00603263-00603510 analysis need to be maintained however GMzZwexXp34-02404-00603511-00603855 documentation should be kept minimal if GMzZwexXp34-02405-00603856-00604047 there should not be unnecessary GMzZwexXp34-02406-00604048-00604239 documentation it has to serve some GMzZwexXp34-02407-00604240-00604375 purpose GMzZwexXp34-02408-00604376-00604631 and next example taken is software GMzZwexXp34-02409-00604632-00604887 development organization GMzZwexXp34-02410-00604888-00605110 in a software development organization GMzZwexXp34-02411-00605111-00605303 the requirement will be slightly GMzZwexXp34-02412-00605304-00605399 different GMzZwexXp34-02413-00605400-00605670 and hence when we are making a GMzZwexXp34-02414-00605671-00605918 management system implementing it in a GMzZwexXp34-02415-00605919-00606151 software development organization GMzZwexXp34-02416-00606152-00606439 the associated key application aspects GMzZwexXp34-02417-00606440-00606622 will be GMzZwexXp34-02418-00606623-00606870 based on that requirement like qms GMzZwexXp34-02419-00606871-00607047 general requirement here also you will GMzZwexXp34-02420-00607048-00607279 find that the clause number starts from GMzZwexXp34-02421-00607280-00607439 class number four GMzZwexXp34-02422-00607440-00607695 software organizations has to identify GMzZwexXp34-02423-00607696-00607975 the processes related to software that GMzZwexXp34-02424-00607976-00608175 is software development operation and GMzZwexXp34-02425-00608176-00608287 maintenance GMzZwexXp34-02426-00608288-00608543 documentation what will be what will be GMzZwexXp34-02427-00608544-00608631 done GMzZwexXp34-02428-00608632-00608910 the general requirements has to be first GMzZwexXp34-02429-00608911-00609175 documented and then the quality manual GMzZwexXp34-02430-00609176-00609447 for the manual will be mentioning all GMzZwexXp34-02431-00609448-00609614 the documentation required that is GMzZwexXp34-02432-00609615-00609807 description of the life cycle models GMzZwexXp34-02433-00609808-00610087 used the coding standards the guidance GMzZwexXp34-02434-00610088-00610359 document all will be mentioned GMzZwexXp34-02435-00610360-00610718 but further control of documents all GMzZwexXp34-02436-00610719-00611007 that will be as per the standard GMzZwexXp34-02437-00611008-00611279 requirement it is same whether it is for GMzZwexXp34-02438-00611280-00611479 an engineering um GMzZwexXp34-02439-00611480-00611727 you know organization or whether it is GMzZwexXp34-02440-00611728-00612007 for a software organization see the GMzZwexXp34-02441-00612008-00612222 typical examples of records in a GMzZwexXp34-02442-00612223-00612518 software organization are given GMzZwexXp34-02443-00612519-00612695 what are the typical examples of a GMzZwexXp34-02444-00612696-00612791 record GMzZwexXp34-02445-00612792-00613039 log sheets of upgrades to the operating GMzZwexXp34-02446-00613040-00613318 system log sheets and problems reported GMzZwexXp34-02447-00613319-00613559 regarding the tools evidence of GMzZwexXp34-02448-00613560-00613807 licensing tools and operating system GMzZwexXp34-02449-00613808-00614014 evidence of code inspection and walk GMzZwexXp34-02450-00614015-00614279 through evidence of reviews of user GMzZwexXp34-02451-00614280-00614510 documentation on-site customer side GMzZwexXp34-02452-00614511-00614751 working of staff audit reports GMzZwexXp34-02453-00614752-00615031 non-conformance reports test results GMzZwexXp34-02454-00615032-00615303 so all this are related to GMzZwexXp34-02455-00615304-00615566 our software organization you know where GMzZwexXp34-02456-00615567-00615807 there will be we we understand that very GMzZwexXp34-02457-00615808-00616031 well especially with this online system GMzZwexXp34-02458-00616032-00616262 of education and all coming up GMzZwexXp34-02459-00616263-00616527 so many uh you know complaints will be GMzZwexXp34-02460-00616528-00616743 there our requirements are there GMzZwexXp34-02461-00616744-00616927 against these requirements these GMzZwexXp34-02462-00616928-00617270 software development companies they work GMzZwexXp34-02463-00617271-00617462 this is my requirement so please make a GMzZwexXp34-02464-00617463-00617743 software according to my requirement GMzZwexXp34-02465-00617744-00617951 same management commitment customer GMzZwexXp34-02466-00617952-00618231 focus and all remains the same because GMzZwexXp34-02467-00618232-00618614 it will it has no change with respect to GMzZwexXp34-02468-00618615-00618887 the difference in organization quality GMzZwexXp34-02469-00618888-00619183 policy also like it is given the example GMzZwexXp34-02470-00619184-00619407 is the next fisa software organization GMzZwexXp34-02471-00619408-00619631 is committed to achieve defect free GMzZwexXp34-02472-00619632-00619766 software GMzZwexXp34-02473-00619767-00619903 okay because it is a software GMzZwexXp34-02474-00619904-00620095 organization that is why the policy GMzZwexXp34-02475-00620096-00620375 example is given that defectory software GMzZwexXp34-02476-00620376-00620670 we know how the software defects have a GMzZwexXp34-02477-00620671-00620943 tremendous impact on when you start GMzZwexXp34-02478-00620944-00621095 using it GMzZwexXp34-02479-00621096-00621239 isn't it GMzZwexXp34-02480-00621240-00621495 now again the plan planning uh the GMzZwexXp34-02481-00621496-00621766 quality objectives planning qms planning GMzZwexXp34-02482-00621767-00621999 and all are the same GMzZwexXp34-02483-00622000-00622183 the internal communication the GMzZwexXp34-02484-00622184-00622503 management review the human resources GMzZwexXp34-02485-00622504-00622727 everything will be same GMzZwexXp34-02486-00622728-00622927 only thing is that the differences GMzZwexXp34-02487-00622928-00623231 depends upon the requirement like human GMzZwexXp34-02488-00623232-00623599 resource in a software development GMzZwexXp34-02489-00623600-00623870 organization will definitely be related GMzZwexXp34-02490-00623871-00624214 to like the people they want is based on GMzZwexXp34-02491-00624215-00624543 the i.t personnel they will be taking GMzZwexXp34-02492-00624544-00624862 personnel who are you know computer GMzZwexXp34-02493-00624863-00625135 science graduates or GMzZwexXp34-02494-00625136-00625375 computer science postgraduates and all GMzZwexXp34-02495-00625376-00625479 for their GMzZwexXp34-02496-00625480-00626031 various positions violent engineering um GMzZwexXp34-02497-00626032-00626310 example which we saw a factory which is GMzZwexXp34-02498-00626311-00626599 micro uh factories they may GMzZwexXp34-02499-00626600-00626870 maybe need mechanical engineers in place GMzZwexXp34-02500-00626871-00627159 so similarly the management system GMzZwexXp34-02501-00627160-00627375 requirements are same the clauses are GMzZwexXp34-02502-00627376-00627607 same but the only thing is when it comes GMzZwexXp34-02503-00627608-00627887 to the application application will be GMzZwexXp34-02504-00627888-00628239 done based on the requirement GMzZwexXp34-02505-00628240-00628535 okay so infrastructure also will remain GMzZwexXp34-02506-00628536-00628862 the same if it is an id company all you GMzZwexXp34-02507-00628863-00629135 need nowadays you don't even need a GMzZwexXp34-02508-00629136-00629407 proper infrastructure the organization GMzZwexXp34-02509-00629408-00629703 may not need a centralized GMzZwexXp34-02510-00629704-00629918 huge building where all the people are GMzZwexXp34-02511-00629919-00630159 working together now the work from home GMzZwexXp34-02512-00630160-00630431 concept has come so everybody is sitting GMzZwexXp34-02513-00630432-00630647 in the room for the i.t factories and GMzZwexXp34-02514-00630648-00630895 for the i.t companies entering GMzZwexXp34-02515-00630896-00631118 the infrastructure requirement has GMzZwexXp34-02516-00631119-00631359 really known that that outlook itself GMzZwexXp34-02517-00631360-00631566 has changed GMzZwexXp34-02518-00631567-00631807 all the i.t company personnel after this GMzZwexXp34-02519-00631808-00632079 uh onset of this pandemic everybody is GMzZwexXp34-02520-00632080-00632375 working from home now they realize that GMzZwexXp34-02521-00632376-00632614 the requirement of infrastructure would GMzZwexXp34-02522-00632615-00632783 have changed now GMzZwexXp34-02523-00632784-00633575 drastically so there GMzZwexXp34-02524-00633576-00633943 and also so all this documentation also GMzZwexXp34-02525-00633944-00634191 will now change in all these factories GMzZwexXp34-02526-00634192-00634462 specifically specifically software GMzZwexXp34-02527-00634463-00634703 development organizations GMzZwexXp34-02528-00634704-00634910 where people can work from home they GMzZwexXp34-02529-00634911-00635118 have you know the last GMzZwexXp34-02530-00635119-00635431 working timings they have they are GMzZwexXp34-02531-00635432-00635622 participating in the meetings or the GMzZwexXp34-02532-00635623-00635831 monitoring activity everything is GMzZwexXp34-02533-00635832-00635935 happening GMzZwexXp34-02534-00635936-00636118 everyone is sitting at home and doing GMzZwexXp34-02535-00636119-00636262 the work GMzZwexXp34-02536-00636263-00636559 so it all depends upon the needs how GMzZwexXp34-02537-00636560-00636662 and GMzZwexXp34-02538-00636663-00636870 what is to be implemented and what is to GMzZwexXp34-02539-00636871-00637207 be documented the design GMzZwexXp34-02540-00637208-00637431 and everything all the work our complete GMzZwexXp34-02541-00637432-00637751 work will depend upon the requirement GMzZwexXp34-02542-00637752-00638079 whereas the basic structure or basic GMzZwexXp34-02543-00638080-00638310 requirement of the standard remains the GMzZwexXp34-02544-00638311-00638591 same when it comes to implementation GMzZwexXp34-02545-00638592-00638775 what is the requirement of the GMzZwexXp34-02546-00638776-00639062 organization it will change and GMzZwexXp34-02547-00639063-00639335 depending on the require requirement GMzZwexXp34-02548-00639336-00639551 they will be preparing the documents GMzZwexXp34-02549-00639552-00639710 accordingly GMzZwexXp34-02550-00639711-00639975 so there also you will find GMzZwexXp34-02551-00639976-00640222 finally the design and development see GMzZwexXp34-02552-00640223-00640510 if you go to page number 73 you will GMzZwexXp34-02553-00640511-00640703 find the design and development GMzZwexXp34-02554-00640704-00641039 requirement also follows the pdcs GMzZwexXp34-02555-00641040-00641318 so this pdca cycle is followed GMzZwexXp34-02556-00641319-00641447 everywhere GMzZwexXp34-02557-00641448-00641822 in all the aspects in this aspect also GMzZwexXp34-02558-00641823-00642327 same bdca cyclist GMzZwexXp34-02559-00642328-00642455 i think GMzZwexXp34-02560-00642456-00642735 that's all we need to address in this GMzZwexXp34-02561-00642736-00643014 case study also there is nothing much GMzZwexXp34-02562-00643015-00643262 but they have not taken one particular GMzZwexXp34-02563-00643263-00643535 case and gone in detail because if in GMzZwexXp34-02564-00643536-00643783 detail it has to go then GMzZwexXp34-02565-00643784-00644031 it may not be enough to contain in this GMzZwexXp34-02566-00644032-00644327 one unit of your material because they GMzZwexXp34-02567-00644328-00644559 have to cover all the documents it will GMzZwexXp34-02568-00644560-00644814 become a huge document however when we GMzZwexXp34-02569-00644815-00645095 are doing some practicals on uh this GMzZwexXp34-02570-00645096-00645303 quality management systems we'll be GMzZwexXp34-02571-00645304-00645418 taking up GMzZwexXp34-02572-00645419-00645743 1705 mainly basically as our GMzZwexXp34-02573-00645744-00645983 iso system that will be covered later on GMzZwexXp34-02574-00645984-00646222 in one of your units GMzZwexXp34-02575-00646223-00646559 so with that we can uh you know you can GMzZwexXp34-02576-00646560-00646783 call it a day and we can end our class GMzZwexXp34-02577-00646784-00646943 today here GMzZwexXp34-02578-00646944-00647247 and again i would request if you have GMzZwexXp34-02579-00647248-00647391 any questions GMzZwexXp34-02580-00647392-00647566 on this units GMzZwexXp34-02581-00647567-00647831 uh you can please drop your questions in GMzZwexXp34-02582-00647832-00648110 the chat box i can take it up GMzZwexXp34-02583-00648111-00648414 next saturday i think again the next GMzZwexXp34-02584-00648415-00648614 class is on next saturday that is what GMzZwexXp34-02585-00648615-00648822 schedule i got if there's a change GMzZwexXp34-02586-00648823-00649118 definitely you will be GMzZwexXp34-02587-00649119-00649318 communicated there will be communication GMzZwexXp34-02588-00649319-00649503 which you will be receiving GMzZwexXp34-02589-00649504-00649575 but GMzZwexXp34-02590-00649576-00649775 as of now GMzZwexXp34-02591-00649776-00650070 i understand that my class is next GMzZwexXp34-02592-00650071-00650351 saturday thank you very much thank you GMzZwexXp34-02593-00650352-00650583 all of you to be present to be patiently GMzZwexXp34-02594-00650584-00650887 listening to me and to my counseling GMzZwexXp34-02595-00650888-00651191 classes and again i would request if you GMzZwexXp34-02596-00651192-00651375 if there is any message you want to GMzZwexXp34-02597-00651376-00651662 convey you you don't have to hesitate GMzZwexXp34-02598-00651663-00651862 please come forward and drop the message GMzZwexXp34-02599-00651863-00652348 in your chat box thank you so much