9viufzBpvBY-00000-00000008-00000847 [Music] 9viufzBpvBY-00001-00000848-00001143 as a remnant of antiquity 9viufzBpvBY-00002-00001144-00001358 money now largely serves as a mechanism 9viufzBpvBY-00003-00001359-00001718 of corruption deprivation 9viufzBpvBY-00004-00001719-00001991 and control on the hands of the few it's 9viufzBpvBY-00005-00001992-00002126 corrupted everything 9viufzBpvBY-00006-00002127-00002310 i mean every institution that we live in 9viufzBpvBY-00007-00002311-00002431 is corrupted by 9viufzBpvBY-00008-00002432-00002758 money what's fascinating to me is that 9viufzBpvBY-00009-00002759-00002966 we can become enslaved by something that 9viufzBpvBY-00010-00002967-00003254 we've created 9viufzBpvBY-00011-00003255-00003447 not physically but just mentally 9viufzBpvBY-00012-00003447-00003670 enslaved by a notion that was invented 9viufzBpvBY-00013-00003671-00003815 by humanity 9viufzBpvBY-00014-00003815-00004006 you know it is archaic because i think 9viufzBpvBY-00015-00004007-00004119 we've grown past 9viufzBpvBY-00016-00004120-00004495 what money can do it is well enough that 9viufzBpvBY-00017-00004496-00004670 the people of the nation do not 9viufzBpvBY-00018-00004671-00004879 understand our banking and money system 9viufzBpvBY-00019-00004880-00004983 or if they did 9viufzBpvBY-00020-00004984-00005143 i believe there would be a revolution 9viufzBpvBY-00021-00005144-00005295 before tomorrow morning 9viufzBpvBY-00022-00005296-00005743 henry ford ford motor company 9viufzBpvBY-00023-00005744-00006006 in a desperate attempt to survive many 9viufzBpvBY-00024-00006007-00006221 work multiple jobs 9viufzBpvBY-00025-00006222-00006399 [Music] 9viufzBpvBY-00026-00006400-00006798 they may steal lodge or embezzle 9viufzBpvBY-00027-00006800-00007014 so stress producing that the average 9viufzBpvBY-00028-00007015-00007103 person 9viufzBpvBY-00029-00007104-00007359 worries about rent losing their job 9viufzBpvBY-00030-00007359-00007559 can't pay off the house 9viufzBpvBY-00031-00007559-00007783 on a bigger scale the profit motive 9viufzBpvBY-00032-00007784-00008087 creates a ruthless cycle of devastation 9viufzBpvBY-00033-00008088-00008463 illness pollution and war are accepted 9viufzBpvBY-00034-00008464-00008710 as normal you have sort of a wartime 9viufzBpvBY-00035-00008711-00008910 economy that begins to be 9viufzBpvBY-00036-00008911-00009063 self-perpetuating 9viufzBpvBY-00037-00009064-00009439 and you have powerful people inside of a 9viufzBpvBY-00038-00009440-00009703 power vacuum really you know who who see 9viufzBpvBY-00039-00009704-00009863 it as in their interest to perpetuate 9viufzBpvBY-00040-00009864-00010039 the conflict 9viufzBpvBY-00041-00010040-00010263 but it does benefit the few at the top 9viufzBpvBY-00042-00010264-00010406 who live parasitically 9viufzBpvBY-00043-00010407-00010991 by the manipulation and control of money 9viufzBpvBY-00044-00010992-00011223 the banking system right now is 9viufzBpvBY-00045-00011224-00011463 effectively enslaving individuals 9viufzBpvBY-00046-00011464-00011695 enslaving students enslaving 9viufzBpvBY-00047-00011696-00011791 institutions 9viufzBpvBY-00048-00011792-00012110 and sucking resources from them they set 9viufzBpvBY-00049-00012111-00012174 it up 9viufzBpvBY-00050-00012175-00012455 so that there would be private central 9viufzBpvBY-00051-00012456-00012535 banks 9viufzBpvBY-00052-00012536-00012751 that could charge everybody interest on 9viufzBpvBY-00053-00012752-00012863 the currency and 9viufzBpvBY-00054-00012863-00013119 allow themselves to get rich without 9viufzBpvBY-00055-00013119-00013335 having to do anything 9viufzBpvBY-00056-00013336-00013566 who's been doing all of this it's a 9viufzBpvBY-00057-00013568-00013638 group of 9viufzBpvBY-00058-00013640-00013951 bankers uh the federal reserve system 9viufzBpvBY-00059-00013952-00014207 that's a private system the fed is a 9viufzBpvBY-00060-00014208-00014366 private bank owned by private 9viufzBpvBY-00061-00014368-00014558 stockholders do not let the name 9viufzBpvBY-00062-00014559-00014951 federal food in 1913 which is 9viufzBpvBY-00063-00014952-00015238 when woodrow wilson allowed the federal 9viufzBpvBY-00064-00015240-00015343 reserve system 9viufzBpvBY-00065-00015344-00015543 legislation to be passed most of the 9viufzBpvBY-00066-00015544-00015743 congress people had gone home 9viufzBpvBY-00067-00015744-00015958 this legislation turned the central bank 9viufzBpvBY-00068-00015959-00016135 system of the united states 9viufzBpvBY-00069-00016136-00016422 over to the federal reserve board making 9viufzBpvBY-00070-00016423-00016471 them 9viufzBpvBY-00071-00016472-00016671 the only group that could issue federal 9viufzBpvBY-00072-00016672-00016791 reserve notes 9viufzBpvBY-00073-00016792-00017184 or u.s dollars 9v-cn-oSBgE-00000-00000012-00000355 foreign 9v-cn-oSBgE-00001-00000356-00001745 [Music] 9v-cn-oSBgE-00002-00001746-00004291 [Music] 9v-cn-oSBgE-00003-00004292-00004429 all right 9v-cn-oSBgE-00004-00004430-00006272 [Music] 9v-cn-oSBgE-00005-00006273-00007414 [Music] 9v-cn-oSBgE-00006-00007415-00007486 foreign 9v-cn-oSBgE-00008-00010754-00011108 all right 9v-cn-oSBgE-00009-00011109-00012129 [Music] 9wtOakIs4mQ-00000-00000071-00000295 let's talk about area as a vector we'll 9wtOakIs4mQ-00001-00000296-00000526 see how to calculate its direction 9wtOakIs4mQ-00002-00000527-00000695 we'll take some examples and we'll also 9wtOakIs4mQ-00003-00000696-00000975 talk about why we do that so let's start 9wtOakIs4mQ-00004-00000976-00001207 there let's start at the y i always 9wtOakIs4mQ-00005-00001208-00001383 wondered when i first learned about area 9wtOakIs4mQ-00006-00001384-00001566 as a vector i always wondered why do 9wtOakIs4mQ-00007-00001567-00001679 people do that why do they take 9wtOakIs4mQ-00008-00001680-00002055 something as so nice as area and convert 9wtOakIs4mQ-00009-00002056-00002255 it into vector why do you even want to 9wtOakIs4mQ-00010-00002256-00002375 do that 9wtOakIs4mQ-00011-00002376-00002591 and the answer is it actually helps us 9wtOakIs4mQ-00012-00002592-00002791 in physics let me give you an example 9wtOakIs4mQ-00013-00002792-00003015 we've already seen in a previous video 9wtOakIs4mQ-00014-00003016-00003231 how to calculate flux if you have an 9wtOakIs4mQ-00015-00003232-00003479 electric field a sorry e going through 9wtOakIs4mQ-00016-00003479-00003727 some area a then the flux is just the 9wtOakIs4mQ-00017-00003728-00003935 product of the electric field multiplied 9wtOakIs4mQ-00018-00003936-00004319 by the perpendicular component of that 9wtOakIs4mQ-00019-00004320-00004495 area and we'll talk all about that in 9wtOakIs4mQ-00020-00004496-00004679 the previous video now what i want to 9wtOakIs4mQ-00021-00004680-00004863 focus on is when you want to try and 9wtOakIs4mQ-00022-00004864-00005063 communicate this with someone how are 9wtOakIs4mQ-00023-00005064-00005159 you going to say that you're going to 9wtOakIs4mQ-00024-00005160-00005327 say it's the electric field multiplied 9wtOakIs4mQ-00025-00005328-00005527 by what area perpendicular what is this 9wtOakIs4mQ-00026-00005528-00005683 area perpendicular it's the 9wtOakIs4mQ-00027-00005684-00005999 perpendicular component of this area 9wtOakIs4mQ-00028-00006000-00006215 perpendicular to the electric field ah 9wtOakIs4mQ-00029-00006216-00006495 so many words right so many words you 9wtOakIs4mQ-00030-00006495-00006670 have to use to communicate that the 9wtOakIs4mQ-00031-00006672-00006855 whole idea behind making area as a 9wtOakIs4mQ-00032-00006856-00007063 vector or at least one of them is to 9wtOakIs4mQ-00033-00007064-00007351 make this communication easier simpler 9wtOakIs4mQ-00034-00007352-00007519 that's the whole idea behind maths right 9wtOakIs4mQ-00035-00007520-00007719 that's why we use equations symbols to 9wtOakIs4mQ-00036-00007720-00007839 make as 9wtOakIs4mQ-00037-00007840-00008134 less words as possible right and making 9wtOakIs4mQ-00038-00008136-00008335 area vector will actually help us now 9wtOakIs4mQ-00039-00008336-00008535 before we go do that you might say wait 9wtOakIs4mQ-00040-00008536-00008774 a second you can actually just call this 9wtOakIs4mQ-00041-00008775-00008942 angle as theta 9wtOakIs4mQ-00042-00008943-00009206 and then you could say that flux phi is 9wtOakIs4mQ-00043-00009207-00009359 just e 9wtOakIs4mQ-00044-00009360-00009503 times 9wtOakIs4mQ-00045-00009504-00009742 a perpendicular is basically a times cos 9wtOakIs4mQ-00046-00009743-00009831 theta 9wtOakIs4mQ-00047-00009832-00010078 trigonometry and again we've done this 9wtOakIs4mQ-00048-00010079-00010238 in detail in the previous video so for 9wtOakIs4mQ-00049-00010239-00010503 more details you can always go back so 9wtOakIs4mQ-00050-00010504-00010638 you can just do this right isn't this 9wtOakIs4mQ-00051-00010639-00010863 easier yeah but now i ask you what is 9wtOakIs4mQ-00052-00010864-00011095 angle theta and how do you explain that 9wtOakIs4mQ-00053-00011096-00011246 well again you have to say angle theta 9wtOakIs4mQ-00054-00011247-00011463 is the angle between 9wtOakIs4mQ-00055-00011464-00011574 the 9wtOakIs4mQ-00056-00011575-00011838 area and the component of the area 9wtOakIs4mQ-00057-00011839-00012078 that's perpendicular to the electric 9wtOakIs4mQ-00058-00012079-00012223 field again so many words you have to 9wtOakIs4mQ-00059-00012224-00012374 use right 9wtOakIs4mQ-00060-00012375-00012519 so let's how do we how do we make it 9wtOakIs4mQ-00061-00012520-00012774 efficient by making area as a vector you 9wtOakIs4mQ-00062-00012775-00012966 will see how all right so let's come 9wtOakIs4mQ-00063-00012967-00013119 back over here and let's see how to 9wtOakIs4mQ-00064-00013119-00013311 treat area as a vector so if you take 9wtOakIs4mQ-00065-00013312-00013511 this example if you have an area like 9wtOakIs4mQ-00066-00013512-00013758 this nice and flat rectangular area the 9wtOakIs4mQ-00067-00013759-00013927 way to make the way to think of it as a 9wtOakIs4mQ-00068-00013928-00014266 vector is you just draw an arrow mark 9wtOakIs4mQ-00069-00014268-00014591 perpendicular to this area so in this 9wtOakIs4mQ-00070-00014591-00014751 case if i draw an arrow mark 9wtOakIs4mQ-00071-00014752-00014991 perpendicular to the area this way 9wtOakIs4mQ-00072-00014991-00015230 that is the direction 9wtOakIs4mQ-00073-00015231-00015311 of 9wtOakIs4mQ-00074-00015312-00015599 our area vector so the direction is 9wtOakIs4mQ-00075-00015600-00015879 always perpendicular and the size 9wtOakIs4mQ-00076-00015880-00016143 will be proportional to the size of this 9wtOakIs4mQ-00077-00016144-00016358 area so if this area was bigger i would 9wtOakIs4mQ-00078-00016359-00016630 have drawn it bigger so in this case we 9wtOakIs4mQ-00079-00016631-00016903 will say our area is pointed in the 9wtOakIs4mQ-00080-00016904-00017063 positive z 9wtOakIs4mQ-00081-00017064-00017175 direction 9wtOakIs4mQ-00082-00017176-00017391 you got it draw perpendicular to the 9wtOakIs4mQ-00083-00017392-00017567 area and that's the direction 9wtOakIs4mQ-00084-00017568-00017750 let's look at this one can you try this 9wtOakIs4mQ-00085-00017751-00018103 one you have a circle which is in the zx 9wtOakIs4mQ-00086-00018104-00018191 plane 9wtOakIs4mQ-00087-00018192-00018447 in what direction would the area be if 9wtOakIs4mQ-00088-00018448-00018599 you were to treat it as a vector can you 9wtOakIs4mQ-00089-00018600-00018879 pause and try 9wtOakIs4mQ-00090-00018880-00019167 all right you have to draw perpendicular 9wtOakIs4mQ-00091-00019168-00019343 so the perpendicular over here would 9wtOakIs4mQ-00092-00019344-00019543 point this way 9wtOakIs4mQ-00093-00019544-00019758 and therefore we could now say hey the 9wtOakIs4mQ-00094-00019759-00020055 area points so the area sorry the area 9wtOakIs4mQ-00095-00020056-00020503 direction is in the positive y direction 9wtOakIs4mQ-00096-00020504-00020639 and i can give you the other way around 9wtOakIs4mQ-00097-00020640-00020830 i can give you i can now give you the 9wtOakIs4mQ-00098-00020831-00021007 area vector let's say there's an area 9wtOakIs4mQ-00099-00021008-00021271 vector which points in the x direction 9wtOakIs4mQ-00100-00021272-00021567 this is the area vector can you imagine 9wtOakIs4mQ-00101-00021568-00021758 where that area would be how that area 9wtOakIs4mQ-00102-00021759-00021919 would look like 9wtOakIs4mQ-00103-00021920-00022014 yeah again it's going to be 9wtOakIs4mQ-00104-00022015-00022255 perpendicular so our area is going to be 9wtOakIs4mQ-00105-00022256-00022399 somewhere in the 9wtOakIs4mQ-00106-00022400-00022486 z 9wtOakIs4mQ-00107-00022487-00022647 y plane 9wtOakIs4mQ-00108-00022648-00022783 so you get that right 9wtOakIs4mQ-00109-00022784-00023030 so to draw so think of area as a vector 9wtOakIs4mQ-00110-00023031-00023239 just draw a perpendicular to it that's 9wtOakIs4mQ-00111-00023240-00023519 the direction for it done that's it 9wtOakIs4mQ-00112-00023520-00023686 now if you're really curious you might 9wtOakIs4mQ-00113-00023687-00023950 say but wait a second i could have drawn 9wtOakIs4mQ-00114-00023951-00024135 two perpendiculars i could have drawn 9wtOakIs4mQ-00115-00024136-00024375 one up but i could have also drawn one 9wtOakIs4mQ-00116-00024376-00024550 down 9wtOakIs4mQ-00117-00024551-00024703 so how do i know whether the direction 9wtOakIs4mQ-00118-00024704-00024927 is in the positive z direction or the 9wtOakIs4mQ-00119-00024928-00025111 negative z direction and the same thing 9wtOakIs4mQ-00120-00025112-00025247 i would have done over here in this i 9wtOakIs4mQ-00121-00025248-00025511 could have drawn another area vector i 9wtOakIs4mQ-00122-00025512-00025646 could have drawn the perpendicular this 9wtOakIs4mQ-00123-00025647-00025783 way so how do i know whether the 9wtOakIs4mQ-00124-00025783-00026006 direction is in the positive y direction 9wtOakIs4mQ-00125-00026007-00026223 or in the negative y direction how do 9wtOakIs4mQ-00126-00026224-00026470 you know that and the answer is 9wtOakIs4mQ-00127-00026472-00026743 it can be arbitrary over here so can we 9wtOakIs4mQ-00128-00026744-00026911 set a standard 9wtOakIs4mQ-00129-00026912-00027102 no we can't set a standard it's a little 9wtOakIs4mQ-00130-00027104-00027302 hard to set a standard because you know 9wtOakIs4mQ-00131-00027304-00027487 up and down i mean can you set a 9wtOakIs4mQ-00132-00027488-00027646 standard saying that let's take upwards 9wtOakIs4mQ-00133-00027647-00027823 as positive you can't because up and 9wtOakIs4mQ-00134-00027824-00028062 down are arbitrary left and right are 9wtOakIs4mQ-00135-00028063-00028239 arbitrary so when you're dealing with 9wtOakIs4mQ-00136-00028239-00028431 area so that's one problem is we don't 9wtOakIs4mQ-00137-00028432-00028590 know which direction should we consider 9wtOakIs4mQ-00138-00028591-00028790 in most cases it will be arbitrary we 9wtOakIs4mQ-00139-00028791-00028999 can't set a standard but you don't have 9wtOakIs4mQ-00140-00029000-00029183 to worry about it because most of the 9wtOakIs4mQ-00141-00029183-00029351 times when you're dealing with this area 9wtOakIs4mQ-00142-00029352-00029511 vector in physics it's going to be say 9wtOakIs4mQ-00143-00029512-00029655 in this in this unit it's going to be 9wtOakIs4mQ-00144-00029656-00029870 somewhere when you're talking about flux 9wtOakIs4mQ-00145-00029872-00030039 most of the time you'll be dealing with 9wtOakIs4mQ-00146-00030039-00030327 a closed surface not an open surface 9wtOakIs4mQ-00147-00030327-00030455 like this let me give an example of what 9wtOakIs4mQ-00148-00030456-00030646 i mean you will be dealing with say a 9wtOakIs4mQ-00149-00030647-00030862 surface which is like closed in three 9wtOakIs4mQ-00150-00030863-00031079 dimensions it'll be closed 9wtOakIs4mQ-00151-00031080-00031327 and over here when you are dealing with 9wtOakIs4mQ-00152-00031327-00031502 an area vector so let's say you take a 9wtOakIs4mQ-00153-00031503-00031646 tiny 9wtOakIs4mQ-00154-00031647-00031831 let me draw here let's say you take this 9wtOakIs4mQ-00155-00031832-00032031 tiny piece and you want to treat this as 9wtOakIs4mQ-00156-00032032-00032158 an area 9wtOakIs4mQ-00157-00032160-00032446 uh sorry theta is a vector and over here 9wtOakIs4mQ-00158-00032447-00032646 again you can draw two arrow marks you 9wtOakIs4mQ-00159-00032647-00032967 can draw one that's pointing out of this 9wtOakIs4mQ-00160-00032968-00033151 particular object and you can draw one 9wtOakIs4mQ-00161-00033152-00033302 more that's pointing 9wtOakIs4mQ-00162-00033303-00033639 in to the particular object now outward 9wtOakIs4mQ-00163-00033640-00034062 and inward that can be standardized and 9wtOakIs4mQ-00164-00034063-00034279 what we like to do is we like to say 9wtOakIs4mQ-00165-00034280-00034671 choose outwards as the standard 9wtOakIs4mQ-00166-00034672-00034871 so long story short when you're dealing 9wtOakIs4mQ-00167-00034872-00035215 with a closed surface we do have a 9wtOakIs4mQ-00168-00035216-00035495 standard we will only choose the outward 9wtOakIs4mQ-00169-00035496-00035702 direction as the direction of the vector 9wtOakIs4mQ-00170-00035703-00036030 and we'll ignore the inward direction 9wtOakIs4mQ-00171-00036031-00036207 let me take another example and you can 9wtOakIs4mQ-00172-00036208-00036487 try let's say we take a cylinder which 9wtOakIs4mQ-00173-00036488-00036687 is a closed object 9wtOakIs4mQ-00174-00036688-00036879 now imagine i consider 9wtOakIs4mQ-00175-00036880-00037135 this area down here circular area down 9wtOakIs4mQ-00176-00037136-00037462 here can you pause and tell me what will 9wtOakIs4mQ-00177-00037463-00037839 be the direction of that vector can you 9wtOakIs4mQ-00178-00037840-00038039 pause and tell 9wtOakIs4mQ-00179-00038040-00038190 all right let's do this 9wtOakIs4mQ-00180-00038191-00038399 so we can choose two directions we can 9wtOakIs4mQ-00181-00038400-00038599 choose up you should always choose 9wtOakIs4mQ-00182-00038600-00038735 perpendicular to it so you can choose 9wtOakIs4mQ-00183-00038736-00038967 upwards perpendicular or you can choose 9wtOakIs4mQ-00184-00038968-00039159 let me do it in a different layer okay 9wtOakIs4mQ-00185-00039160-00039351 you can choose upwards perpendicular or 9wtOakIs4mQ-00186-00039352-00039599 you can choose downwards perpendicular 9wtOakIs4mQ-00187-00039600-00039990 but outwards is our standard so this is 9wtOakIs4mQ-00188-00039991-00040255 what we'll choose so we'll say over here 9wtOakIs4mQ-00189-00040256-00040551 the direction is in the negative z 9wtOakIs4mQ-00190-00040552-00040790 direction or we just say downwards and 9wtOakIs4mQ-00191-00040791-00040990 this is wrong we don't use this what 9wtOakIs4mQ-00192-00040991-00041143 about for the 9wtOakIs4mQ-00193-00041144-00041399 this one what about for this one well 9wtOakIs4mQ-00194-00041400-00041630 again we can choose two we can choose 9wtOakIs4mQ-00195-00041631-00041839 out and you can choose inward but we'll 9wtOakIs4mQ-00196-00041840-00042087 always choose outwards as our standard 9wtOakIs4mQ-00197-00042088-00042343 so this is going to be the right 9wtOakIs4mQ-00198-00042344-00042583 direction so notice even though these 9wtOakIs4mQ-00199-00042584-00042871 two surfaces are pretty much identical 9wtOakIs4mQ-00200-00042872-00043030 they have the same area they are pretty 9wtOakIs4mQ-00201-00043031-00043271 much the same orientation vectorially 9wtOakIs4mQ-00202-00043272-00043415 they are not the same they are in the 9wtOakIs4mQ-00203-00043416-00043630 opposite direction because we always 9wtOakIs4mQ-00204-00043631-00043855 choose the vectors in the outward 9wtOakIs4mQ-00205-00043856-00043983 direction 9wtOakIs4mQ-00206-00043984-00044158 okay so for close surfaces there's no 9wtOakIs4mQ-00207-00044159-00044367 problem our standard is outwards for 9wtOakIs4mQ-00208-00044368-00044558 open surfaces you can't say that because 9wtOakIs4mQ-00209-00044559-00044790 there is no outward there is no inward 9wtOakIs4mQ-00210-00044791-00044967 but there is also still even for open 9wtOakIs4mQ-00211-00044968-00045174 surfaces there is a way to standardize 9wtOakIs4mQ-00212-00045175-00045343 the direction and will not talk about it 9wtOakIs4mQ-00213-00045344-00045502 it's not really important for this 9wtOakIs4mQ-00214-00045503-00045639 particular view there is a way to do 9wtOakIs4mQ-00215-00045640-00045783 that we'll talk about in some future 9wtOakIs4mQ-00216-00045784-00045983 videos but as of now don't worry about 9wtOakIs4mQ-00217-00045984-00046262 them for close surfaces outward is our 9wtOakIs4mQ-00218-00046263-00046471 standard direction 9wtOakIs4mQ-00219-00046472-00046686 and now i'm sure you are waiting to see 9wtOakIs4mQ-00220-00046687-00046871 how this helps us in communicating this 9wtOakIs4mQ-00221-00046872-00047118 much more efficiently let's see if i try 9wtOakIs4mQ-00222-00047119-00047439 to treat this area now as a vector let 9wtOakIs4mQ-00223-00047440-00047671 me zoom in over here 9wtOakIs4mQ-00224-00047672-00047886 so if i treat this area as a vector and 9wtOakIs4mQ-00225-00047887-00048143 let me draw the vector 9wtOakIs4mQ-00226-00048144-00048318 for this area in this direction just to 9wtOakIs4mQ-00227-00048319-00048439 keep things simple you could have drawn 9wtOakIs4mQ-00228-00048440-00048646 the other way around remember for open 9wtOakIs4mQ-00229-00048647-00048846 areas open surfaces you can draw either 9wtOakIs4mQ-00230-00048847-00049062 ways as the vector direction but let me 9wtOakIs4mQ-00231-00049063-00049302 choose this one okay my question to you 9wtOakIs4mQ-00232-00049303-00049390 is 9wtOakIs4mQ-00233-00049391-00049518 and you will see why i'm asking you this 9wtOakIs4mQ-00234-00049519-00049727 question in a second my question to you 9wtOakIs4mQ-00235-00049728-00049999 is if this angle is theta what is this 9wtOakIs4mQ-00236-00050000-00050174 angle going to be 9wtOakIs4mQ-00237-00050175-00050295 now if you have some experience with 9wtOakIs4mQ-00238-00050296-00050479 geometry you might know that this answer 9wtOakIs4mQ-00239-00050480-00050639 is you might guess it's either going to 9wtOakIs4mQ-00240-00050640-00050911 be theta or 90 minus theta right so can 9wtOakIs4mQ-00241-00050912-00051079 you just pause the video and think about 9wtOakIs4mQ-00242-00051080-00051214 just you know do a little bit of 9wtOakIs4mQ-00243-00051215-00051358 geometry and see what this angle is 9wtOakIs4mQ-00244-00051359-00051511 going to be 9wtOakIs4mQ-00245-00051512-00051750 all right hopefully you've tried so i 9wtOakIs4mQ-00246-00051751-00051942 what the way i like to do this is let me 9wtOakIs4mQ-00247-00051944-00052199 take this triangle if this angle is 90 9wtOakIs4mQ-00248-00052200-00052519 then i know this angle is 9 so if this 9wtOakIs4mQ-00249-00052520-00052775 angle is theta i know this angle is 90 9wtOakIs4mQ-00250-00052776-00052926 minus theta because this whole thing is 9wtOakIs4mQ-00251-00052927-00053199 90 right and if this angle is 90 minus 9wtOakIs4mQ-00252-00053200-00053454 theta then this is a triangle this is 90 9wtOakIs4mQ-00253-00053455-00053711 this angle is theta does that make sense 9wtOakIs4mQ-00254-00053712-00053982 so this angle should be theta 9wtOakIs4mQ-00255-00053983-00054254 and corresponding angles sorry not 9wtOakIs4mQ-00256-00054255-00054535 corresponding alternate interior rank i 9wtOakIs4mQ-00257-00054536-00054703 forget the names anyways if this angle 9wtOakIs4mQ-00258-00054704-00054959 is theta this angle should also be theta 9wtOakIs4mQ-00259-00054960-00055175 and therefore we have it we get this 9wtOakIs4mQ-00260-00055176-00055519 angle to be theta now why i asked you to 9wtOakIs4mQ-00261-00055520-00055759 calculate that angle is because 9wtOakIs4mQ-00262-00055760-00056023 now i can say what is this angle theta 9wtOakIs4mQ-00263-00056024-00056279 theta is just the angle between the 9wtOakIs4mQ-00264-00056279-00056647 electric field vector and the area 9wtOakIs4mQ-00265-00056648-00056854 vector that's it that's so much easier 9wtOakIs4mQ-00266-00056855-00057094 to communicate and we can even reduce 9wtOakIs4mQ-00267-00057095-00057350 the words even more because now if you 9wtOakIs4mQ-00268-00057351-00057559 if you remember your vectors you might 9wtOakIs4mQ-00269-00057560-00057638 know 9wtOakIs4mQ-00270-00057639-00057871 that when you multiply the pro magnitude 9wtOakIs4mQ-00271-00057872-00057950 of 9wtOakIs4mQ-00272-00057951-00058335 two vectors and cos of the angle between 9wtOakIs4mQ-00273-00058336-00058591 them there's a short notation for that 9wtOakIs4mQ-00274-00058591-00058926 that is a dot product so we can just say 9wtOakIs4mQ-00275-00058927-00059335 flux is the dot product it just say e 9wtOakIs4mQ-00276-00059336-00059438 dot 9wtOakIs4mQ-00277-00059439-00059550 a 9wtOakIs4mQ-00278-00059551-00059847 like a boss you can be now a person of 9wtOakIs4mQ-00279-00059848-00059999 few words 9wtOakIs4mQ-00280-00060000-00060166 this is so much easier to communicate 9wtOakIs4mQ-00281-00060167-00060471 flux is e dot a that's it done 9wtOakIs4mQ-00282-00060472-00060638 easier right and even when you're 9wtOakIs4mQ-00283-00060639-00060815 dealing with say complex situations 9wtOakIs4mQ-00284-00060816-00060942 where your electric fields and your 9wtOakIs4mQ-00285-00060944-00061087 areas are all oriented in different 9wtOakIs4mQ-00286-00061088-00061215 different three dimensions and all of 9wtOakIs4mQ-00287-00061216-00061454 that it's so much easier to take a dot 9wtOakIs4mQ-00288-00061455-00061559 product when you learn about dot 9wtOakIs4mQ-00289-00061560-00061742 products in maths you will see it's that 9wtOakIs4mQ-00290-00061744-00061966 easier to do that it's so much harder to 9wtOakIs4mQ-00291-00061967-00062175 do it this way okay 9wtOakIs4mQ-00292-00062176-00062335 and so there you have it 9wtOakIs4mQ-00293-00062336-00062503 so how do you calculate flux you do it 9wtOakIs4mQ-00294-00062504-00062750 as just e dot a let's just take one last 9wtOakIs4mQ-00295-00062751-00062887 example 9wtOakIs4mQ-00296-00062888-00063047 so let's say we are given that there is 9wtOakIs4mQ-00297-00063048-00063359 an area of two units take standard units 9wtOakIs4mQ-00298-00063360-00063591 okay which is kept inside an electric 9wtOakIs4mQ-00299-00063591-00063799 field of 100 units at an angle 60 9wtOakIs4mQ-00300-00063800-00064030 degrees with it can you calculate what 9wtOakIs4mQ-00301-00064032-00064230 the flux through that area is going to 9wtOakIs4mQ-00302-00064232-00064463 be can you pause and try 9wtOakIs4mQ-00303-00064464-00064735 all right my immediate reaction is e a 9wtOakIs4mQ-00304-00064736-00065047 cos theta so e is just hundred 9wtOakIs4mQ-00305-00065048-00065142 is 9wtOakIs4mQ-00306-00065144-00065294 two 9wtOakIs4mQ-00307-00065295-00065591 times cos theta where theta is sixty 9wtOakIs4mQ-00308-00065592-00065719 degrees 9wtOakIs4mQ-00309-00065720-00065799 but 9wtOakIs4mQ-00310-00065800-00066063 this is not correct because remember 9wtOakIs4mQ-00311-00066064-00066255 theta what is theta now we have a much 9wtOakIs4mQ-00312-00066256-00066438 easier definition of theta it's the 9wtOakIs4mQ-00313-00066439-00066743 angle between the electric field vector 9wtOakIs4mQ-00314-00066744-00067143 and the area vector so now for to 9wtOakIs4mQ-00315-00067144-00067359 calculate the area vector you have to 9wtOakIs4mQ-00316-00067360-00067606 first draw a perpendicular to it 9wtOakIs4mQ-00317-00067607-00067838 this perpendicular would represent the 9wtOakIs4mQ-00318-00067839-00067935 area 9wtOakIs4mQ-00319-00067936-00068031 vector 9wtOakIs4mQ-00320-00068032-00068223 and so now theta should be the angle 9wtOakIs4mQ-00321-00068224-00068487 between this arrow mark and this arrow 9wtOakIs4mQ-00322-00068488-00068799 mark and that's not 60. in fact this 9wtOakIs4mQ-00323-00068800-00068935 whole thing is 90 because it's 9wtOakIs4mQ-00324-00068936-00069199 perpendicular and therefore that angle 9wtOakIs4mQ-00325-00069200-00069338 is actually 9wtOakIs4mQ-00326-00069339-00069863 30 degrees 90 minus 30. so this is wrong 9wtOakIs4mQ-00327-00069864-00070111 it should be cos 9wtOakIs4mQ-00328-00070112-00070447 690 minus 60 which is 30 9wtOakIs4mQ-00329-00070448-00070663 degrees so you know common mistake that 9wtOakIs4mQ-00330-00070664-00070863 i used to make earlier so long story 9wtOakIs4mQ-00331-00070864-00071047 short flux is e dot a when you're 9wtOakIs4mQ-00332-00071048-00071238 calculating be careful theta is the 9wtOakIs4mQ-00333-00071239-00071423 angle between the electric field vector 9wtOakIs4mQ-00334-00071424-00071662 and the area vector and how do you 9wtOakIs4mQ-00335-00071663-00071838 calculate direction of the area vector 9wtOakIs4mQ-00336-00071839-00072006 you just draw perpendicular to your 9wtOakIs4mQ-00337-00072007-00072247 areas for open surfaces you can always 9wtOakIs4mQ-00338-00072248-00072455 draw two perpendicular so it's arbitrary 9wtOakIs4mQ-00339-00072456-00072743 but for close surfaces you can always 9wtOakIs4mQ-00340-00072744-00072982 our standard is the outward so for 9wtOakIs4mQ-00341-00072983-00073167 closed surfaces we choose outward 9wtOakIs4mQ-00342-00073168-00073739 direction as the area vector direction 9-laQO9B7R8-00000-00000096-00000271 if living upgrade is something that 9-laQO9B7R8-00001-00000272-00000471 you're fan of one of the essential 9-laQO9B7R8-00002-00000472-00000671 skills that you need to have is knowing 9-laQO9B7R8-00003-00000672-00000847 how to cook 9-laQO9B7R8-00004-00000848-00001047 yes especially if you're single and even 9-laQO9B7R8-00005-00001048-00001270 if you're married and your wife is away 9-laQO9B7R8-00006-00001271-00001431 you need to know how to cook to be able 9-laQO9B7R8-00007-00001432-00001663 to take care of yourself so my wife has 9-laQO9B7R8-00008-00001664-00001902 been our way for the past few 9-laQO9B7R8-00009-00001903-00002126 i think it's a week now 9-laQO9B7R8-00010-00002127-00002383 and that means that i have to be doing 9-laQO9B7R8-00011-00002384-00002583 my cooking myself the good thing is i 9-laQO9B7R8-00012-00002584-00002758 know how to cook so 9-laQO9B7R8-00013-00002759-00003183 yeah yay well some dishes anyway so 9-laQO9B7R8-00014-00003184-00003431 um from though she left on wednesday and 9-laQO9B7R8-00015-00003432-00003654 today is actually friday so 9-laQO9B7R8-00016-00003655-00003895 from thursday all the way till now 9-laQO9B7R8-00017-00003896-00004119 i have had to be doing some cooking i 9-laQO9B7R8-00018-00004120-00004367 did uh prepared your love 9-laQO9B7R8-00019-00004368-00004583 i've prepared yam 9-laQO9B7R8-00020-00004584-00004838 rice 9-laQO9B7R8-00021-00004839-00004943 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00022-00004944-00005175 at all i don't know how to call that in 9-laQO9B7R8-00023-00005176-00005454 in english and then also 9-laQO9B7R8-00024-00005455-00005686 some spag and then some few more 9-laQO9B7R8-00025-00005687-00005815 ambitious today i'm going to be 9-laQO9B7R8-00026-00005816-00006022 preparing bangku uh because it's going 9-laQO9B7R8-00027-00006023-00006254 to be able to last me that is over the 9-laQO9B7R8-00028-00006255-00006534 weekend probably even into 9-laQO9B7R8-00029-00006536-00006687 monday and then maybe hopefully on 9-laQO9B7R8-00030-00006688-00006991 sunday i prepare maybe fufu yeah with 9-laQO9B7R8-00031-00006992-00007239 some soup so i actually lightened my 9-laQO9B7R8-00032-00007240-00007446 fire i'm going to be doing this on there 9-laQO9B7R8-00033-00007447-00007567 cool pot 9-laQO9B7R8-00034-00007568-00007846 i think i need to get my fan 9-laQO9B7R8-00035-00007847-00008055 so i could find this 9-laQO9B7R8-00036-00008056-00008231 and then 9-laQO9B7R8-00037-00008232-00008455 i 9-laQO9B7R8-00038-00008456-00008991 i get ready with my 9-laQO9B7R8-00039-00008992-00009142 okay so 9-laQO9B7R8-00040-00009143-00009399 for the preparation of uh banco you 9-laQO9B7R8-00041-00009400-00009535 basically need 9-laQO9B7R8-00042-00009536-00009887 a condo and a cassava do so 9-laQO9B7R8-00043-00009888-00010135 you need a little more 9-laQO9B7R8-00044-00010136-00010495 um content or amount of corn dough 9-laQO9B7R8-00045-00010496-00010727 compared to that of the cassava dough 9-laQO9B7R8-00046-00010728-00010806 and 9-laQO9B7R8-00047-00010807-00010991 you go ahead you have to most of the 9-laQO9B7R8-00048-00010992-00011206 time there cassava is not so fine so you 9-laQO9B7R8-00049-00011207-00011399 have to mix it to a bit of water and 9-laQO9B7R8-00050-00011400-00011655 then sieve it and then add it to the 9-laQO9B7R8-00051-00011656-00011751 corn 9-laQO9B7R8-00052-00011752-00012006 dough so you seam it into the conduit 9-laQO9B7R8-00053-00012007-00012119 and then 9-laQO9B7R8-00054-00012120-00012359 you go to mix the conduit with the 9-laQO9B7R8-00055-00012360-00012638 liquid of the cassava dough till you 9-laQO9B7R8-00056-00012639-00012927 know you have a very fine smooth mixture 9-laQO9B7R8-00057-00012928-00013151 and then you add a bit of salt to it and 9-laQO9B7R8-00058-00013152-00013422 then you're ready to come to the fire so 9-laQO9B7R8-00059-00013423-00013663 on the fire you you make sure your fire 9-laQO9B7R8-00060-00013663-00013863 ice you know um having good producing 9-laQO9B7R8-00061-00013863-00014083 good amount of heat you 9-laQO9B7R8-00062-00014084-00014375 constantly uh maybe find it make sure 9-laQO9B7R8-00063-00014376-00014575 it's like well before you stop finding 9-laQO9B7R8-00064-00014576-00014799 it and then once you get to that point 9-laQO9B7R8-00065-00014800-00014879 you 9-laQO9B7R8-00066-00014880-00015094 keep staring your mixture you keep 9-laQO9B7R8-00067-00015095-00015335 staring staring staring until begins to 9-laQO9B7R8-00068-00015336-00015550 become a little bit hard and then you 9-laQO9B7R8-00069-00015551-00015807 drive it yes so you have to drive it 9-laQO9B7R8-00070-00015808-00015935 against the 9-laQO9B7R8-00071-00015936-00016230 um the co the put the this and the ports 9-laQO9B7R8-00072-00016231-00016391 that you are using in 9-laQO9B7R8-00073-00016392-00016655 cooking there's a cooking pot and make 9-laQO9B7R8-00074-00016656-00016879 sure you don't have any you know this 9-laQO9B7R8-00075-00016880-00017111 how do you call it yeah you make sure 9-laQO9B7R8-00076-00017112-00017319 you have this very smooth 9-laQO9B7R8-00077-00017320-00017430 um 9-laQO9B7R8-00078-00017431-00017607 mixture so you keep doing that and i 9-laQO9B7R8-00079-00017608-00017830 guess the point where 9-laQO9B7R8-00080-00017831-00018055 you get to see that it's all becoming 9-laQO9B7R8-00081-00018056-00018279 like hard you sometimes add a little bit 9-laQO9B7R8-00082-00018280-00018543 of water i keep driving once you get you 9-laQO9B7R8-00083-00018544-00018807 know very very smooth mixture uh at some 9-laQO9B7R8-00084-00018808-00018967 point you add a little bit of water 9-laQO9B7R8-00085-00018968-00019150 leave it on top of the fire for it to 9-laQO9B7R8-00086-00019151-00019327 cook properly you come to turn it a few 9-laQO9B7R8-00087-00019328-00019558 more times then you're good to go so 9-laQO9B7R8-00088-00019559-00019694 basically that's what i'm going to be 9-laQO9B7R8-00089-00019695-00019863 doing today this is something i've i've 9-laQO9B7R8-00090-00019864-00020094 done over and over in the past before 9-laQO9B7R8-00091-00020095-00020294 but for a very long time i haven't had a 9-laQO9B7R8-00092-00020295-00020543 chance to cook hopefully 9-laQO9B7R8-00093-00020544-00020727 uh it's also a good thing my wife is 9-laQO9B7R8-00094-00020728-00020967 around so i can be you know getting back 9-laQO9B7R8-00095-00020968-00021127 my cooking skills so that's what i'm 9-laQO9B7R8-00096-00021128-00021303 going to i'm going to be doing today 9-laQO9B7R8-00097-00021304-00021503 once my fire is up i'll get started 9-laQO9B7R8-00098-00021504-00021663 process and then i'll take you through 9-laQO9B7R8-00099-00021664-00021855 it 9-laQO9B7R8-00100-00021856-00021983 okay so 9-laQO9B7R8-00101-00021984-00022294 um i have my pot cooking pot on the fire 9-laQO9B7R8-00102-00022295-00022543 now i have to do a little bit of farming 9-laQO9B7R8-00103-00022544-00022743 so i spoke about a little bit about a 9-laQO9B7R8-00104-00022744-00022919 process involved but i haven't 9-laQO9B7R8-00105-00022920-00023119 introduced my crew members how some crew 9-laQO9B7R8-00106-00023120-00023319 members are going to be helping me to do 9-laQO9B7R8-00107-00023320-00023494 this i have this 9-laQO9B7R8-00108-00023495-00023814 wooden spatula a very big one and then i 9-laQO9B7R8-00109-00023815-00024167 have a knife there i have a balls there 9-laQO9B7R8-00110-00024168-00024319 uh 9-laQO9B7R8-00111-00024320-00024614 basically that i have rubber in the ice 9-laQO9B7R8-00112-00024615-00024967 chest um yeah stir it so once the bunker 9-laQO9B7R8-00113-00024968-00025167 is ready i'll just take it off the test 9-laQO9B7R8-00114-00025168-00025271 and 9-laQO9B7R8-00115-00025272-00025478 wrap it in the rubber and then place it 9-laQO9B7R8-00116-00025479-00025575 in there 9-laQO9B7R8-00117-00025576-00025902 um the storage flask is a flask yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00118-00025904-00026014 storage 9-laQO9B7R8-00119-00026016-00026246 box whatever it is so yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00120-00026247-00026374 uh 9-laQO9B7R8-00121-00026375-00026558 you're going to be seeing me doing some 9-laQO9B7R8-00122-00026560-00026758 driving over here this is 9-laQO9B7R8-00123-00026760-00026927 rear wheel drive and not what we do 9-laQO9B7R8-00124-00026927-00027207 behind the wheels anyway i think the 9-laQO9B7R8-00125-00027208-00027390 light is against my back so my face 9-laQO9B7R8-00126-00027391-00027567 would be a little bit dark now this 9-laQO9B7R8-00127-00027568-00027718 place is a little bit enclosed that's 9-laQO9B7R8-00128-00027719-00027902 how come i'm going to be doing over here 9-laQO9B7R8-00129-00027904-00028135 so that i don't have people just you 9-laQO9B7R8-00130-00028136-00028351 know looking at me preparing my bank 9-laQO9B7R8-00131-00028352-00028574 because we don't have a fence yet which 9-laQO9B7R8-00132-00028575-00028774 we'll be having a conversation about 9-laQO9B7R8-00133-00028775-00029023 that um shortly so let's get into the 9-laQO9B7R8-00134-00029024-00029287 process 9-laQO9B7R8-00135-00029288-00029551 so as part of my crew members 9-laQO9B7R8-00136-00029552-00029831 are also these uh metallic 9-laQO9B7R8-00137-00029832-00030087 stand which i'll be hooking onto my pot 9-laQO9B7R8-00138-00030088-00030374 this way 9-laQO9B7R8-00139-00030375-00030495 i hope this 9-laQO9B7R8-00140-00030495-00030607 works 9-laQO9B7R8-00141-00030608-00030799 right and then i'll be stepping on them 9-laQO9B7R8-00142-00030800-00031070 to give me some sort of support to be 9-laQO9B7R8-00143-00031072-00031295 able to prevent this 9-laQO9B7R8-00144-00031295-00031551 pot from moving left to right so it 9-laQO9B7R8-00145-00031552-00031879 makes the whole process easier so yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00146-00031880-00032039 i just place it on the fire i'm going to 9-laQO9B7R8-00147-00032039-00032287 waiting for some few minutes for it to 9-laQO9B7R8-00148-00032288-00032670 warm up and then i'll begin stirring it 9-laQO9B7R8-00149-00032672-00032855 okay so 9-laQO9B7R8-00150-00032856-00033087 time to stare has 9-laQO9B7R8-00151-00033088-00033431 officially begun 9-laQO9B7R8-00152-00033432-00033623 be stirring it this way continuously for 9-laQO9B7R8-00153-00033624-00033759 some time and then 9-laQO9B7R8-00154-00033760-00034127 i proceed to do proper driving once 9-laQO9B7R8-00155-00034128-00034439 it's beginning to you know harden up 9-laQO9B7R8-00156-00034440-00034518 so 9-laQO9B7R8-00157-00034519-00034646 uh 9-laQO9B7R8-00158-00034647-00034911 it's been like about a month so far 9-laQO9B7R8-00159-00034912-00035207 living here i'm entering some days and i 9-laQO9B7R8-00160-00035208-00035439 must say it's really really really 9-laQO9B7R8-00161-00035440-00035639 really been great to live in here i 9-laQO9B7R8-00162-00035640-00035918 don't regret any part of it it feels 9-laQO9B7R8-00163-00035919-00036095 very very peaceful 9-laQO9B7R8-00164-00036096-00036262 and 9-laQO9B7R8-00165-00036263-00036535 my wife is actually a teacher and the ot 9-laQO9B7R8-00166-00036536-00036815 agent so she had to leave a baby 9-laQO9B7R8-00167-00036816-00037111 uh for the place or a place of work and 9-laQO9B7R8-00168-00037112-00037279 it's been like about a weekend in some 9-laQO9B7R8-00169-00037280-00037527 days since she left so 9-laQO9B7R8-00170-00037528-00037687 that's how come i've been doing my own 9-laQO9B7R8-00171-00037688-00037935 cooking ever since she left 9-laQO9B7R8-00172-00037936-00038118 and uh so far i've been the only person 9-laQO9B7R8-00173-00038119-00038343 over here my mission has 9-laQO9B7R8-00174-00038344-00038527 been away for 9-laQO9B7R8-00175-00038528-00038735 also about a month and then some weeks 9-laQO9B7R8-00176-00038736-00038902 uh because we 9-laQO9B7R8-00177-00038903-00039167 we did have a little break on the beggar 9-laQO9B7R8-00178-00039168-00039430 building project so he went you know 9-laQO9B7R8-00179-00039431-00039583 back to where he came from that school 9-laQO9B7R8-00180-00039584-00039711 to you know spend some time in their 9-laQO9B7R8-00181-00039712-00039846 family and then 9-laQO9B7R8-00182-00039847-00040015 arrest a little bit so hopefully he'll 9-laQO9B7R8-00183-00040016-00040183 be coming soon so i've been here alone 9-laQO9B7R8-00184-00040184-00040390 for like the past 9-laQO9B7R8-00185-00040391-00040683 week some days 9-laQO9B7R8-00186-00040684-00040999 and doesn't i don't feel any scared 9-laQO9B7R8-00187-00041000-00041262 about being you know here alone in the 9-laQO9B7R8-00188-00041263-00041446 night you know it's it's just very 9-laQO9B7R8-00189-00041447-00041639 peaceful and calm the night you hear a 9-laQO9B7R8-00190-00041640-00041927 lot of um sometimes frogs you know 9-laQO9B7R8-00191-00041928-00042111 making noise because when we do have 9-laQO9B7R8-00192-00042112-00042343 rains over here and then sometimes you 9-laQO9B7R8-00193-00042344-00042511 hear you know crickets you know making a 9-laQO9B7R8-00194-00042512-00042807 lot of noise and then around this time 9-laQO9B7R8-00195-00042808-00043111 it switches like around two little two 9-laQO9B7R8-00196-00043112-00043351 things around two 9-laQO9B7R8-00197-00043352-00043583 yeah 245 9-laQO9B7R8-00198-00043584-00043758 maybe three for their belts you hear a 9-laQO9B7R8-00199-00043759-00043990 lot of you know beds checking around 9-laQO9B7R8-00200-00043991-00044174 yeah maybe looking for food sometimes 9-laQO9B7R8-00201-00044175-00044367 you have cattle coming to graze and you 9-laQO9B7R8-00202-00044368-00044599 have this pelicans you know flowing them 9-laQO9B7R8-00203-00044600-00044918 um here and there so so far so good it's 9-laQO9B7R8-00204-00044919-00045279 been great uh all right when i wake up i 9-laQO9B7R8-00205-00045280-00045374 probably 9-laQO9B7R8-00206-00045375-00045623 just um you know um 9-laQO9B7R8-00207-00045624-00045711 or 9-laQO9B7R8-00208-00045712-00045983 water the plants that we have here 9-laQO9B7R8-00209-00045984-00046190 and after that you know the place is 9-laQO9B7R8-00210-00046191-00046343 beginning to get ready so i started 9-laQO9B7R8-00211-00046344-00046607 doing clearing but it was there's a lot 9-laQO9B7R8-00212-00046608-00046823 of stones you know so it was a bit 9-laQO9B7R8-00213-00046824-00046999 difficult using the colors to do that so 9-laQO9B7R8-00214-00047000-00047135 i decided to just 9-laQO9B7R8-00215-00047136-00047374 get some heavy side and then spray them 9-laQO9B7R8-00216-00047375-00047599 up so i've done the spring i hope maybe 9-laQO9B7R8-00217-00047600-00047695 they've been 9-laQO9B7R8-00218-00047696-00048151 and then probably start going again yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00219-00048152-00048239 so 9-laQO9B7R8-00220-00048240-00048574 so far so good and 9-laQO9B7R8-00221-00048575-00048758 it's it's been great jesus sometimes i 9-laQO9B7R8-00222-00048759-00049046 miss my family i wish to they were here 9-laQO9B7R8-00223-00049047-00049246 yeah because i'm here alone all by 9-laQO9B7R8-00224-00049247-00049439 myself it doesn't get boring anyway at 9-laQO9B7R8-00225-00049440-00049574 my stick because once 9-laQO9B7R8-00226-00049575-00049758 i wake up after doing the things i have 9-laQO9B7R8-00227-00049759-00049974 to do outside if i don't have to cook i 9-laQO9B7R8-00228-00049975-00050183 which almost all the days i have 9-laQO9B7R8-00229-00050184-00050343 to cook 9-laQO9B7R8-00230-00050344-00050527 and 9-laQO9B7R8-00231-00050528-00050695 also 9-laQO9B7R8-00232-00050696-00050855 work do some work so i'm website 9-laQO9B7R8-00233-00050856-00051102 designer so i'm able to do some work on 9-laQO9B7R8-00234-00051103-00051326 my pc i have great internet over here 9-laQO9B7R8-00235-00051327-00051502 which is very good 9-laQO9B7R8-00236-00051503-00051623 and 9-laQO9B7R8-00237-00051624-00051894 yeah so as it stays now 9-laQO9B7R8-00238-00051895-00052175 the solar system we had a little upgrade 9-laQO9B7R8-00239-00052176-00052335 to the solar system 9-laQO9B7R8-00240-00052336-00052582 um we added two more panels to it which 9-laQO9B7R8-00241-00052583-00052815 were all 180 watts now when you're 9-laQO9B7R8-00242-00052816-00053142 getting into solar it is very important 9-laQO9B7R8-00243-00053144-00053350 you take into consideration what size of 9-laQO9B7R8-00244-00053351-00053494 panels that you are getting from the 9-laQO9B7R8-00245-00053495-00053726 very beginning because when you let's 9-laQO9B7R8-00246-00053727-00053959 say you get 100 watts of panels it will 9-laQO9B7R8-00247-00053960-00054207 be good to stick to 100 watts of panels 9-laQO9B7R8-00248-00054208-00054463 as compared to maybe increasing it to or 9-laQO9B7R8-00249-00054464-00054742 maybe adding up maybe 200 watts and so 9-laQO9B7R8-00250-00054744-00054959 on yeah because of the 9-laQO9B7R8-00251-00054960-00055191 not having the same you know um wattage 9-laQO9B7R8-00252-00055191-00055359 and anything voltage and the rest unless 9-laQO9B7R8-00253-00055360-00055487 of course maybe having a different 9-laQO9B7R8-00254-00055488-00055679 configuration but it's always best to 9-laQO9B7R8-00255-00055679-00055894 have the same size of panel so we 9-laQO9B7R8-00256-00055895-00056135 started off with 180 watts 9-laQO9B7R8-00257-00056136-00056326 the reason was because of the way they 9-laQO9B7R8-00258-00056327-00056559 look in size as well as at least able to 9-laQO9B7R8-00259-00056560-00056711 you know pop 9-laQO9B7R8-00260-00056712-00056926 uh or produce certain good amounts of 9-laQO9B7R8-00261-00056927-00057103 you know power 9-laQO9B7R8-00262-00057104-00057326 so we've got two more of the panels 9-laQO9B7R8-00263-00057327-00057599 making a total four panels so we we've 9-laQO9B7R8-00264-00057600-00058047 had them you know installed at two sites 9-laQO9B7R8-00265-00058048-00058263 um the interesting thing about these 9-laQO9B7R8-00266-00058264-00058438 panels are installing the panels is that 9-laQO9B7R8-00267-00058439-00058750 they are installed on a rail so if you 9-laQO9B7R8-00268-00058751-00058999 want to add up more panels to it there's 9-laQO9B7R8-00269-00059000-00059199 like a continuation 9-laQO9B7R8-00270-00059200-00059494 uh a bada allows you to add up an extra 9-laQO9B7R8-00271-00059495-00059703 reel and then you are able to add up 9-laQO9B7R8-00272-00059704-00059975 more panels to it so we added two more 9-laQO9B7R8-00273-00059976-00060247 180 watts making 360 watt 9-laQO9B7R8-00274-00060248-00060503 and it's been great so far it's able to 9-laQO9B7R8-00275-00060504-00060719 use um 9-laQO9B7R8-00276-00060720-00060950 charge the batteries real fast 9-laQO9B7R8-00277-00060951-00061150 now because we don't have so many 9-laQO9B7R8-00278-00061151-00061271 batteries 9-laQO9B7R8-00279-00061272-00061535 we are able to operate the fridge 9-laQO9B7R8-00280-00061536-00061647 however 9-laQO9B7R8-00281-00061648-00061815 for like some few hours and a day unable 9-laQO9B7R8-00282-00061816-00062054 to do 24 hours because the remaining of 9-laQO9B7R8-00283-00062055-00062263 the you know power in a battery are 9-laQO9B7R8-00284-00062264-00062542 mostly preserved for the night so 9-laQO9B7R8-00285-00062544-00062726 once it gets into like about four or 9-laQO9B7R8-00286-00062727-00062999 five that about twice the sun is setting 9-laQO9B7R8-00287-00063000-00063206 we turn off the fridge that is if we 9-laQO9B7R8-00288-00063207-00063366 have to keep something in the fridge but 9-laQO9B7R8-00289-00063367-00063671 if not it's just um off for now until we 9-laQO9B7R8-00290-00063672-00063887 have like good amount of battery pack to 9-laQO9B7R8-00291-00063888-00064238 be able to part 24 hours that's how come 9-laQO9B7R8-00292-00064239-00064399 i've had to be doing cooking almost 9-laQO9B7R8-00293-00064400-00064654 every day so i don't have something i 9-laQO9B7R8-00294-00064655-00064999 have to keep in the fridge 9-laQO9B7R8-00295-00065000-00065254 and some of the food i'm able to 9-laQO9B7R8-00296-00065255-00065430 preserve it without necessarily keeping 9-laQO9B7R8-00297-00065432-00065591 it in the fridge probably just by 9-laQO9B7R8-00298-00065592-00065806 heating it making sure it's well cooled 9-laQO9B7R8-00299-00065807-00066071 and keeping it at a cool dry place 9-laQO9B7R8-00300-00066072-00066247 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00301-00066248-00066479 so that's with the upgrade with a solar 9-laQO9B7R8-00302-00066480-00066767 and um i did that with the help of my 9-laQO9B7R8-00303-00066768-00066959 wife she has let me do the installation 9-laQO9B7R8-00304-00066960-00067135 of that so i had to 9-laQO9B7R8-00305-00067136-00067423 do the cage or the the wood for it and 9-laQO9B7R8-00306-00067424-00067655 then after that she assisted in helping 9-laQO9B7R8-00307-00067656-00067831 me carrying them to the top of that you 9-laQO9B7R8-00308-00067832-00068063 know getting them 9-laQO9B7R8-00309-00068064-00068343 screwed or mounted to the 9-laQO9B7R8-00310-00068344-00068599 wood 9-laQO9B7R8-00311-00068600-00068799 now being here the few things that i'm 9-laQO9B7R8-00312-00068800-00069006 working on doing so far 9-laQO9B7R8-00313-00069007-00069319 hello 9-laQO9B7R8-00314-00069320-00069535 there a few things i'm looking at doing 9-laQO9B7R8-00315-00069536-00069638 so far 9-laQO9B7R8-00316-00069639-00069855 um yeah so that's a farm i was just 9-laQO9B7R8-00317-00069856-00070111 leaving so he's been good or kind to us 9-laQO9B7R8-00318-00070112-00070247 enough to you know always bring us 9-laQO9B7R8-00319-00070248-00070406 pineapple you know there are a lot of 9-laQO9B7R8-00320-00070407-00070623 pineapple farms around here 9-laQO9B7R8-00321-00070624-00070838 so 9-laQO9B7R8-00322-00070839-00071167 the place is very open um when you're 9-laQO9B7R8-00323-00071168-00071399 passing by you just easily see or look 9-laQO9B7R8-00324-00071400-00071550 into the house like you know some 9-laQO9B7R8-00325-00071551-00071719 cooking i just need a little bit of 9-laQO9B7R8-00326-00071720-00071943 privacy so i've had to open this door 9-laQO9B7R8-00327-00071944-00072119 behind me so you know 9-laQO9B7R8-00328-00072120-00072367 but still you have people we can't 9-laQO9B7R8-00329-00072368-00072535 in here sometimes feels a little bit 9-laQO9B7R8-00330-00072536-00072735 uncomfortable they are used to the 9-laQO9B7R8-00331-00072736-00072919 setting because you know they are not 9-laQO9B7R8-00332-00072920-00073103 used to having walls 9-laQO9B7R8-00333-00073104-00073262 but i've i've been used to you know 9-laQO9B7R8-00334-00073263-00073471 living at places where we have walls so 9-laQO9B7R8-00335-00073472-00073687 i was thinking of constructing a fence 9-laQO9B7R8-00336-00073688-00073871 however not a block fence i'm just 9-laQO9B7R8-00337-00073872-00074159 looking at using bamboo to construct 9-laQO9B7R8-00338-00074160-00074367 their fence not even throughout the 9-laQO9B7R8-00339-00074368-00074606 times just some part of the house maybe 9-laQO9B7R8-00340-00074607-00074806 the front part and a little bit of the 9-laQO9B7R8-00341-00074807-00074919 side 9-laQO9B7R8-00342-00074920-00075126 well it all depends on the quantity of 9-laQO9B7R8-00343-00075127-00075262 bamboo i'm able to get now the good 9-laQO9B7R8-00344-00075263-00075526 thing is there's bamboos that are 9-laQO9B7R8-00345-00075527-00075799 around like going around a lot of places 9-laQO9B7R8-00346-00075800-00075991 around so i'll be able to get them for 9-laQO9B7R8-00347-00075992-00076071 cheap 9-laQO9B7R8-00348-00076072-00076319 uh prices or not too expensive have them 9-laQO9B7R8-00349-00076320-00076447 transported here and then you know 9-laQO9B7R8-00350-00076448-00076606 process them for 9-laQO9B7R8-00351-00076607-00076838 their 9-laQO9B7R8-00352-00076839-00077094 their friends that i want to construct 9-laQO9B7R8-00353-00077095-00077319 aside from that also i'm also looking at 9-laQO9B7R8-00354-00077320-00077550 um starting off with like a small 9-laQO9B7R8-00355-00077551-00077759 chicken farm i've seen a very nice 9-laQO9B7R8-00356-00077760-00077959 concept about how i can create like a 9-laQO9B7R8-00357-00077960-00078231 very cool coop hand cook where i'll be 9-laQO9B7R8-00358-00078232-00078343 having the 9-laQO9B7R8-00359-00078344-00078519 chicken you know in 9-laQO9B7R8-00360-00078520-00078719 able to you know feed them every now and 9-laQO9B7R8-00361-00078720-00078982 then and probably get some x i'm 9-laQO9B7R8-00362-00078983-00079111 considering 9-laQO9B7R8-00363-00079112-00079319 going it up between 9-laQO9B7R8-00364-00079320-00079550 um broilers or layers probably i was 9-laQO9B7R8-00365-00079551-00079687 just going for layers so i'll be able to 9-laQO9B7R8-00366-00079688-00079855 get x and maybe if i get more in 9-laQO9B7R8-00367-00079856-00080062 abundance i'll be able to sell off 9-laQO9B7R8-00368-00080063-00080206 um some 9-laQO9B7R8-00369-00080207-00080399 so yeah that's one thing i'm looking at 9-laQO9B7R8-00370-00080400-00080494 oops 9-laQO9B7R8-00371-00080495-00080606 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00372-00080607-00080767 things you you're likely to experience 9-laQO9B7R8-00373-00080768-00080999 when you are working with a cobalt and i 9-laQO9B7R8-00374-00081000-00081238 have a charcoal in there 9-laQO9B7R8-00375-00081239-00081359 so those are some of the things i'm 9-laQO9B7R8-00376-00081360-00081703 looking at doing so far uh because we 9-laQO9B7R8-00377-00081704-00081871 finished this building that was just 9-laQO9B7R8-00378-00081872-00082055 last month that's in august and we are 9-laQO9B7R8-00379-00082056-00082182 in september 9-laQO9B7R8-00380-00082183-00082438 uh i have to you know relax a little bit 9-laQO9B7R8-00381-00082439-00082743 on my finances and maybe come back or 9-laQO9B7R8-00382-00082744-00082975 bounce back a little bit later so that 9-laQO9B7R8-00383-00082976-00083191 i'm able to you know have this other 9-laQO9B7R8-00384-00083192-00083455 things ongoing and also 9-laQO9B7R8-00385-00083456-00083631 i i was just discussing with a friend 9-laQO9B7R8-00386-00083632-00083806 whether it would be a good idea to have 9-laQO9B7R8-00387-00083807-00084047 like an airbnb spot over here where 9-laQO9B7R8-00388-00084048-00084294 people would to maybe just disconnect 9-laQO9B7R8-00389-00084295-00084503 from the entire you know noise 9-laQO9B7R8-00390-00084504-00084655 activities and 9-laQO9B7R8-00391-00084656-00084782 and 9-laQO9B7R8-00392-00084783-00085023 so if you are coming to ghana from maybe 9-laQO9B7R8-00393-00085024-00085223 anywhere in the world you'll probably 9-laQO9B7R8-00394-00085224-00085391 get a place like this which will be 9-laQO9B7R8-00395-00085392-00085550 packed with a couple of 9-laQO9B7R8-00396-00085551-00085823 activities so maybe tour services where 9-laQO9B7R8-00397-00085824-00086047 you can see some you know toy sites 9-laQO9B7R8-00398-00086048-00086206 around 9-laQO9B7R8-00399-00086207-00086479 because of their how we put the places 9-laQO9B7R8-00400-00086480-00086694 maybe have access to food as well so you 9-laQO9B7R8-00401-00086695-00086943 have like options to get food here and 9-laQO9B7R8-00402-00086944-00087094 maybe drinks and yeah so this is 9-laQO9B7R8-00403-00087095-00087335 something i'm doing and i probably will 9-laQO9B7R8-00404-00087336-00087494 be doing that with my 9-laQO9B7R8-00405-00087495-00087759 container that's behind me so that used 9-laQO9B7R8-00406-00087760-00088047 to be my office so if you've seen my 9-laQO9B7R8-00407-00088048-00088287 container office video that's the 9-laQO9B7R8-00408-00088288-00088526 container we used we've had to or we had 9-laQO9B7R8-00409-00088527-00088671 to transport it here when we about 9-laQO9B7R8-00410-00088672-00088935 started the project so we can you know 9-laQO9B7R8-00411-00088936-00089175 keep stuff and it's to be very very safe 9-laQO9B7R8-00412-00089176-00089335 in there 9-laQO9B7R8-00413-00089336-00089511 so it's a little bit messy in the 9-laQO9B7R8-00414-00089512-00089703 because it's seven hour storage 9-laQO9B7R8-00415-00089704-00089982 uh but once i'm ready to maybe get over 9-laQO9B7R8-00416-00089983-00090159 this ibm that is if i'm going to be 9-laQO9B7R8-00417-00090160-00090350 doing it i'll probably be integrating 9-laQO9B7R8-00418-00090351-00090623 the container with block 9-laQO9B7R8-00419-00090624-00090879 work or concrete so we have like a 9-laQO9B7R8-00420-00090880-00091023 one-story 9-laQO9B7R8-00421-00091024-00091271 container at the top the concrete at a 9-laQO9B7R8-00422-00091272-00091487 base and yeah so you when you climb to 9-laQO9B7R8-00423-00091488-00091718 the top more or less like a rooftop 9-laQO9B7R8-00424-00091719-00091959 you're able to you know have amazing 9-laQO9B7R8-00425-00091960-00092103 views around even once you're on the 9-laQO9B7R8-00426-00092104-00092279 ground they're able to see you all 9-laQO9B7R8-00427-00092280-00092518 around so imagine just you know climbing 9-laQO9B7R8-00428-00092519-00092647 a little bit 9-laQO9B7R8-00429-00092648-00092911 up so yeah now there's a family i once 9-laQO9B7R8-00430-00092912-00093087 spoke about who are having a container 9-laQO9B7R8-00431-00093088-00093367 project um being built 9-laQO9B7R8-00432-00093368-00093575 somewhere here it's like about 9-laQO9B7R8-00433-00093576-00093894 uh 500 600 meters away from here which 9-laQO9B7R8-00434-00093895-00094079 is coming up really well i must say it's 9-laQO9B7R8-00435-00094080-00094343 looking really really nice they have um 9-laQO9B7R8-00436-00094344-00094462 the concrete 9-laQO9B7R8-00437-00094463-00094775 blocks at a base uh with flow concrete 9-laQO9B7R8-00438-00094776-00095055 flow cast on top and then they have um 9-laQO9B7R8-00439-00095056-00095294 a continent so three containers or one 9-laQO9B7R8-00440-00095295-00095479 and two stacked side by side and then 9-laQO9B7R8-00441-00095480-00095750 one stack on top of the two so in the 9-laQO9B7R8-00442-00095751-00095950 middle which looks really 9-laQO9B7R8-00443-00095951-00096062 cool so 9-laQO9B7R8-00444-00096063-00096238 i'm looking at how it's going to turn 9-laQO9B7R8-00445-00096239-00096382 out hardly against you know grab out 9-laQO9B7R8-00446-00096383-00096518 everything probably i'm just getting a 9-laQO9B7R8-00447-00096519-00096679 little bit of inspiration from that 9-laQO9B7R8-00448-00096680-00096967 already so well let's see how that is 9-laQO9B7R8-00449-00096968-00097215 going to go 9-laQO9B7R8-00450-00097216-00097479 now also if you've been watching my 9-laQO9B7R8-00451-00097480-00097782 channel for some time now you notice 9-laQO9B7R8-00452-00097783-00098023 that i used to like i've evolved with a 9-laQO9B7R8-00453-00098024-00098238 kind of content i used to create 9-laQO9B7R8-00454-00098239-00098471 um i started off with tech related 9-laQO9B7R8-00455-00098472-00098582 videos 9-laQO9B7R8-00456-00098583-00098679 and 9-laQO9B7R8-00457-00098680-00098879 it got a bit boring for me so i branched 9-laQO9B7R8-00458-00098880-00099094 off into you know 9-laQO9B7R8-00459-00099095-00099287 doing tutorials 9-laQO9B7R8-00460-00099288-00099503 calculated tutorials i must say at 9-laQO9B7R8-00461-00099504-00099703 another you know tutorials like or 9-laQO9B7R8-00462-00099704-00099950 sharing things or yeah things i do come 9-laQO9B7R8-00463-00099951-00100255 by that i feel i think will help people 9-laQO9B7R8-00464-00100256-00100543 and then from there i proceeded to do 9-laQO9B7R8-00465-00100544-00100791 some troubles and yeah they started 9-laQO9B7R8-00466-00100792-00100959 making travel videos that was when my 9-laQO9B7R8-00467-00100960-00101255 drone came so i had to reutilize the 9-laQO9B7R8-00468-00101256-00101526 drone by traveling making travel related 9-laQO9B7R8-00469-00101527-00101623 videos 9-laQO9B7R8-00470-00101624-00101815 and it was true that i came by the 9-laQO9B7R8-00471-00101816-00102094 hunting game village and i know you 9-laQO9B7R8-00472-00102095-00102287 carry a call if you watch this channel 9-laQO9B7R8-00473-00102288-00102630 follow me on sometime now um after going 9-laQO9B7R8-00474-00102631-00102806 to the hungarian village making my scary 9-laQO9B7R8-00475-00102807-00102999 video interesting video a lot of people 9-laQO9B7R8-00476-00103000-00103278 got to see yeah i feel shy about it 9-laQO9B7R8-00477-00103279-00103439 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00478-00103440-00103686 after that i'm getting a chance to do a 9-laQO9B7R8-00479-00103688-00104047 little documentary of the place and then 9-laQO9B7R8-00480-00104048-00104318 i'm trying to maybe solicit for funds to 9-laQO9B7R8-00481-00104319-00104590 construct yeah like a water system over 9-laQO9B7R8-00482-00104591-00104895 there it hasn't really been gone the way 9-laQO9B7R8-00483-00104896-00105143 we anticipated and a lot of things have 9-laQO9B7R8-00484-00105144-00105286 come up because i was doing then i had 9-laQO9B7R8-00485-00105288-00105454 to get married i was writing exams in 9-laQO9B7R8-00486-00105455-00105678 school like so many things so i had to 9-laQO9B7R8-00487-00105679-00105902 you know put it on hold however we got 9-laQO9B7R8-00488-00105903-00106215 some donations i think about 9-laQO9B7R8-00489-00106216-00106431 between two thousand three thousand 9-laQO9B7R8-00490-00106432-00106751 cities and uh it was it looked like it 9-laQO9B7R8-00491-00106752-00106951 was going to be difficult to have their 9-laQO9B7R8-00492-00106952-00107143 projects completed so well you can have 9-laQO9B7R8-00493-00107144-00107358 probably um 9-laQO9B7R8-00494-00107359-00107519 donating the money to the community 9-laQO9B7R8-00495-00107520-00107734 however people are against that so we're 9-laQO9B7R8-00496-00107735-00107919 still we've been still holding on to the 9-laQO9B7R8-00497-00107920-00108295 money um you cannot what we can do for 9-laQO9B7R8-00498-00108296-00108519 the community so it just came into mind 9-laQO9B7R8-00499-00108520-00108751 that you can actually purchase 9-laQO9B7R8-00500-00108752-00108966 water storage tanks 9-laQO9B7R8-00501-00108967-00109134 and 9-laQO9B7R8-00502-00109135-00109310 donate it to the community it looks like 9-laQO9B7R8-00503-00109311-00109447 we'll be able to 9-laQO9B7R8-00504-00109448-00109631 i don't know maybe if something comes up 9-laQO9B7R8-00505-00109632-00109783 if you're able to get the support to our 9-laQO9B7R8-00506-00109783-00109943 system that we need probably be able to 9-laQO9B7R8-00507-00109944-00110166 continue through it to the water project 9-laQO9B7R8-00508-00110167-00110358 but aside from that you're looking at 9-laQO9B7R8-00509-00110359-00110527 purchasing water storage tanks and 9-laQO9B7R8-00510-00110528-00110815 they're deleted to the community or 9-laQO9B7R8-00511-00110816-00110902 their 9-laQO9B7R8-00512-00110903-00111078 village so that at least it would be 9-laQO9B7R8-00513-00111079-00111399 like a step a stepping stone into having 9-laQO9B7R8-00514-00111400-00111631 a water project done so that whoever 9-laQO9B7R8-00515-00111632-00111943 comes after us and would want to 9-laQO9B7R8-00516-00111944-00112143 continue from there the person is able 9-laQO9B7R8-00517-00112144-00112295 to you know at least you know have 9-laQO9B7R8-00518-00112296-00112486 something or somewhere to start off with 9-laQO9B7R8-00519-00112488-00112599 so my 9-laQO9B7R8-00520-00112600-00112758 mixture is beginning to get a little bit 9-laQO9B7R8-00521-00112759-00113031 hard now so i have to be very careful if 9-laQO9B7R8-00522-00113032-00113231 i don't you know stay properly am i 9-laQO9B7R8-00523-00113232-00113471 beginning to have this much more how do 9-laQO9B7R8-00524-00113472-00113671 you call it how do you call that i don't 9-laQO9B7R8-00525-00113672-00113943 know yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00526-00113944-00114031 so 9-laQO9B7R8-00527-00114032-00114166 to have the 9-laQO9B7R8-00528-00114167-00114558 the 9-laQO9B7R8-00529-00114559-00114847 storage tanks you know 9-laQO9B7R8-00530-00114848-00115054 donated to the 9-laQO9B7R8-00531-00115055-00115310 oops this thing is looking donated to 9-laQO9B7R8-00532-00115311-00115471 the 9-laQO9B7R8-00533-00115472-00115623 village so that 9-laQO9B7R8-00534-00115624-00115775 at least 9-laQO9B7R8-00535-00115776-00116071 if anyone comes after us they're able to 9-laQO9B7R8-00536-00116072-00116351 um use that to you know with regard to 9-laQO9B7R8-00537-00116352-00116534 the water projects that you may want to 9-laQO9B7R8-00538-00116535-00116734 do so that's what we've been looking at 9-laQO9B7R8-00539-00116735-00116975 so far 9-laQO9B7R8-00540-00116976-00117158 at this point i have to do a little 9-laQO9B7R8-00541-00117159-00117263 talking 9-laQO9B7R8-00542-00117264-00117447 and then continue with my steps it's 9-laQO9B7R8-00543-00117448-00117678 been a while it's been a very very long 9-laQO9B7R8-00544-00117679-00117758 time 9-laQO9B7R8-00545-00117759-00118015 i started like i cooked or prepared 9-laQO9B7R8-00546-00118016-00118254 bangkok honestly it's been very very 9-laQO9B7R8-00547-00118255-00118415 long over 9-laQO9B7R8-00548-00118416-00118558 over 10 years 9-laQO9B7R8-00549-00118559-00118678 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00550-00118679-00118751 so 9-laQO9B7R8-00551-00118752-00118951 it feels a little bit new however i 9-laQO9B7R8-00552-00118952-00119110 remember the process it's not something 9-laQO9B7R8-00553-00119111-00119310 i've forgotten 9-laQO9B7R8-00554-00119311-00119407 just 9-laQO9B7R8-00555-00119408-00119654 have to be careful at this point okay so 9-laQO9B7R8-00556-00119655-00120039 it became it's beginning to get hard now 9-laQO9B7R8-00557-00120040-00120390 okay 9-laQO9B7R8-00558-00120391-00120566 don't i hope you're not coming to be 9-laQO9B7R8-00559-00120567-00120775 laughing at me 9-laQO9B7R8-00560-00120776-00120983 who says i'm going to be preparing banku 9-laQO9B7R8-00561-00120983-00121095 and 9-laQO9B7R8-00562-00121096-00121631 it's getting or looking awkward already 9-laQO9B7R8-00563-00121632-00121863 so this is where they're driving 9-laQO9B7R8-00564-00121864-00122310 parts that like i was saying 9-laQO9B7R8-00565-00122311-00122463 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00566-00122464-00122663 so 9-laQO9B7R8-00567-00122664-00122895 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00568-00122896-00124799 all right i think i still got my skills 9-laQO9B7R8-00569-00124800-00124999 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00570-00125000-00125271 wow 9-laQO9B7R8-00571-00125272-00125686 okay 9-laQO9B7R8-00572-00125688-00125823 nice 9-laQO9B7R8-00573-00125824-00125951 it's coming out 9-laQO9B7R8-00574-00125952-00126166 really really well so at this point i 9-laQO9B7R8-00575-00126167-00126519 need some water to dress there 9-laQO9B7R8-00576-00126520-00126614 there 9-laQO9B7R8-00577-00126615-00127047 let me just get my water from here 9-laQO9B7R8-00578-00127048-00128239 okay 9-laQO9B7R8-00579-00128240-00128414 yeah this place is not super special for 9-laQO9B7R8-00580-00128415-00128743 me 9-laQO9B7R8-00581-00128744-00129999 okay 9-laQO9B7R8-00582-00130000-00130160 nice 9-laQO9B7R8-00583-00130161-00131278 [Music] 9-laQO9B7R8-00584-00131279-00131439 wow 9-laQO9B7R8-00585-00131440-00131631 this feels awesome like i'm really 9-laQO9B7R8-00586-00131632-00131799 really impressed i still have my skills 9-laQO9B7R8-00587-00131800-00132175 with me 9-laQO9B7R8-00588-00132176-00132375 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00589-00132376-00132583 your youtuber 9-laQO9B7R8-00590-00132584-00132775 our content creator 9-laQO9B7R8-00591-00132776-00132854 is 9-laQO9B7R8-00592-00132855-00133014 preparing 9-laQO9B7R8-00593-00133015-00133095 yes 9-laQO9B7R8-00594-00133096-00133863 i'm not your average content creator 9-laQO9B7R8-00595-00133864-00134063 so my channel so far has evolved over 9-laQO9B7R8-00596-00134064-00134166 the years 9-laQO9B7R8-00597-00134167-00134319 and there's been a lot of goods i'm sure 9-laQO9B7R8-00598-00134320-00134463 you can tell 9-laQO9B7R8-00599-00134464-00134719 with myself and like my personality how 9-laQO9B7R8-00600-00134720-00134823 i look 9-laQO9B7R8-00601-00134824-00134975 um 9-laQO9B7R8-00602-00134976-00135231 the kind of content i create and so on 9-laQO9B7R8-00603-00135232-00135366 yeah which 9-laQO9B7R8-00604-00135367-00135631 feels you know good so you see my young 9-laQO9B7R8-00605-00135632-00135751 self 9-laQO9B7R8-00606-00135752-00135935 who 9-laQO9B7R8-00607-00135936-00136383 started off with 9-laQO9B7R8-00608-00136384-00136607 technology related 9-laQO9B7R8-00609-00136608-00136871 videos 9-laQO9B7R8-00610-00136872-00137063 and then you 9-laQO9B7R8-00611-00137064-00137335 got married 9-laQO9B7R8-00612-00137336-00137599 i started out with like startup videos 9-laQO9B7R8-00613-00137600-00137878 and so on yeah and 9-laQO9B7R8-00614-00137879-00138007 i'm glad 9-laQO9B7R8-00615-00138008-00138231 about how far i have come there's been 9-laQO9B7R8-00616-00138232-00138383 people who have been watching me for a 9-laQO9B7R8-00617-00138384-00138647 very long time they've been like jenny 9-laQO9B7R8-00618-00138648-00138919 with me for long so this particular 9-laQO9B7R8-00619-00138920-00139127 point i appreciate you i must say 9-laQO9B7R8-00620-00139128-00139487 because 9-laQO9B7R8-00621-00139488-00139678 i appreciate you all 9-laQO9B7R8-00622-00139679-00139814 so 9-laQO9B7R8-00623-00139815-00139999 now we are doing 9-laQO9B7R8-00624-00140000-00140278 construction related videos and not 9-laQO9B7R8-00625-00140279-00140535 limited to just that but to doing 9-laQO9B7R8-00626-00140536-00140807 uh there are lots more other things that 9-laQO9B7R8-00627-00140808-00141023 uh yeah i'll be sharing with you as time 9-laQO9B7R8-00628-00141024-00141271 keeps going up basically i'm more of a 9-laQO9B7R8-00629-00141272-00141487 diy person doing a lot of things by 9-laQO9B7R8-00630-00141488-00141678 myself so 9-laQO9B7R8-00631-00141679-00141895 or trying new things on the right so any 9-laQO9B7R8-00632-00141896-00142054 new thing that i i'll be trying 9-laQO9B7R8-00633-00142055-00142231 especially around here 9-laQO9B7R8-00634-00142232-00142527 i definitely will get you involved or 9-laQO9B7R8-00635-00142528-00142711 bring you along so you can see some of 9-laQO9B7R8-00636-00142712-00142863 the things some of the ideas some of the 9-laQO9B7R8-00637-00142864-00143151 things that i'm looking at implementing 9-laQO9B7R8-00638-00143152-00143366 over here 9-laQO9B7R8-00639-00143367-00143719 now this is not easy so 9-laQO9B7R8-00640-00143720-00143983 if you think it's it's easy it's not 9-laQO9B7R8-00641-00143984-00144199 easy yes i think 9-laQO9B7R8-00642-00144200-00144495 i'll just do a little bit more drives 9-laQO9B7R8-00643-00144496-00144799 and then i'll add water 9-laQO9B7R8-00644-00144800-00145735 and then allow it to cook for some time 9-laQO9B7R8-00645-00145736-00146407 okay good 9-laQO9B7R8-00646-00146408-00146990 yep so 9-laQO9B7R8-00647-00146991-00147263 after adding the water i'll have to do 9-laQO9B7R8-00648-00147264-00147447 some more drive 9-laQO9B7R8-00649-00147448-00147663 and then 9-laQO9B7R8-00650-00147664-00147878 that'll be it will be getting to the end 9-laQO9B7R8-00651-00147879-00148054 of the 9-laQO9B7R8-00652-00148055-00148343 leak 9-laQO9B7R8-00653-00148344-00148519 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00654-00148520-00148695 okay so 9-laQO9B7R8-00655-00148696-00148895 let me get my knife 9-laQO9B7R8-00656-00148896-00149663 this is where it comes to clean 9-laQO9B7R8-00657-00149664-00149919 now this spatula i'm using 9-laQO9B7R8-00658-00149920-00150447 was made by 9-laQO9B7R8-00659-00150448-00150631 mason 9-laQO9B7R8-00660-00150632-00150726 he 9-laQO9B7R8-00661-00150727-00150975 is underway so he can just understand he 9-laQO9B7R8-00662-00150976-00151143 doesn't joke with his 9-laQO9B7R8-00663-00151144-00151311 actually 9-laQO9B7R8-00664-00151312-00151439 at all 9-laQO9B7R8-00665-00151440-00151702 so 9-laQO9B7R8-00666-00151703-00152063 he made this by himself 9-laQO9B7R8-00667-00152064-00152239 i think using some of the wood that i 9-laQO9B7R8-00668-00152240-00152390 purchased 9-laQO9B7R8-00669-00152391-00152631 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00670-00152632-00152878 then the the metal was made by the steel 9-laQO9B7R8-00671-00152879-00153254 bender who is also an osu 9-laQO9B7R8-00672-00153255-00153414 now they one interesting thing about 9-laQO9B7R8-00673-00153415-00153543 this place is that 9-laQO9B7R8-00674-00153544-00153639 it's 9-laQO9B7R8-00675-00153640-00153887 a lot of areas that leave around as well 9-laQO9B7R8-00676-00153888-00154007 as 9-laQO9B7R8-00677-00154008-00154111 gas 9-laQO9B7R8-00678-00154112-00154287 this actually community is a guard 9-laQO9B7R8-00679-00154288-00154511 community so like once you go into the 9-laQO9B7R8-00680-00154512-00154839 town you see you meet a lot of guys 9-laQO9B7R8-00681-00154840-00155078 around however a lot of people who are 9-laQO9B7R8-00682-00155079-00155319 into farming or doing farming over here 9-laQO9B7R8-00683-00155320-00155607 uh where so the man i was living at is 9-laQO9B7R8-00684-00155608-00155895 an airway 9-laQO9B7R8-00685-00155896-00156047 yeah and 9-laQO9B7R8-00686-00156048-00156190 like i i 9-laQO9B7R8-00687-00156191-00156495 i like how hard i can be over here 9-laQO9B7R8-00688-00156496-00156687 every morning you see them in their 9-laQO9B7R8-00689-00156688-00156919 farms 9-laQO9B7R8-00690-00156920-00157159 you know why can't working very hard so 9-laQO9B7R8-00691-00157160-00157454 they are into cultivation of um 9-laQO9B7R8-00692-00157455-00157631 pineapple 9-laQO9B7R8-00693-00157632-00157823 pineapple a lot 9-laQO9B7R8-00694-00157824-00158014 and then let me add a little bit more 9-laQO9B7R8-00695-00158015-00158295 inclusive 9-laQO9B7R8-00696-00158296-00158566 out for and then 9-laQO9B7R8-00697-00158567-00158711 yeah cassava 9-laQO9B7R8-00698-00158712-00158887 you don't just take yourself a picture 9-laQO9B7R8-00699-00158888-00159087 and send to my wife go ahead it's 9-laQO9B7R8-00700-00159088-00159407 happening live and call it 9-laQO9B7R8-00701-00159408-00159807 right so let me just cover this 9-laQO9B7R8-00702-00159808-00160175 this allow it to cook for some time then 9-laQO9B7R8-00703-00160176-00160399 we continue so yeah so performance it 9-laQO9B7R8-00704-00160400-00160590 looks like it's drizzling we've had 9-laQO9B7R8-00705-00160591-00160807 rains like yesterday rain rain very 9-laQO9B7R8-00706-00160808-00160902 heavily 9-laQO9B7R8-00707-00160903-00161254 and there's a point or part on the road 9-laQO9B7R8-00708-00161255-00161447 that gets here that's a little bit muddy 9-laQO9B7R8-00709-00161448-00161719 so it's got to make actually dirty 9-laQO9B7R8-00710-00161720-00161951 yeah but aside from that the road is not 9-laQO9B7R8-00711-00161952-00162326 bad from here to the main road 9-laQO9B7R8-00712-00162327-00162551 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00713-00162552-00162695 so 9-laQO9B7R8-00714-00162696-00162902 let me know things that you'd want to 9-laQO9B7R8-00715-00162903-00162983 know 9-laQO9B7R8-00716-00162984-00163231 about maybe what i haven't covered so 9-laQO9B7R8-00717-00163232-00163447 far with regard to this like project 9-laQO9B7R8-00718-00163448-00163607 some things i can cover some things i 9-laQO9B7R8-00719-00163608-00163783 can talk about today i already have some 9-laQO9B7R8-00720-00163784-00164087 ideas that want to be doing already 9-laQO9B7R8-00721-00164088-00164231 you'll be seeing them in 9-laQO9B7R8-00722-00164232-00164471 uh videos like in subsequent 9-laQO9B7R8-00723-00164472-00164575 videos 9-laQO9B7R8-00724-00164576-00164839 uh maybe after this or maybe before this 9-laQO9B7R8-00725-00164840-00165102 and then oh you can share with me 9-laQO9B7R8-00726-00165103-00165326 yeah and then also i'd like to know how 9-laQO9B7R8-00727-00165327-00165607 how you find or see my channel so far 9-laQO9B7R8-00728-00165608-00165759 like how's it been for you how did you 9-laQO9B7R8-00729-00165760-00166031 discover my channel did you did you like 9-laQO9B7R8-00730-00166032-00166207 it and then up you know my channel 9-laQO9B7R8-00731-00166208-00166414 watches all my videos also with my 9-laQO9B7R8-00732-00166415-00166614 presentation and how i got about my 9-laQO9B7R8-00733-00166615-00166759 videos is there anything that you think 9-laQO9B7R8-00734-00166760-00166983 i can change i can adapt to it these are 9-laQO9B7R8-00735-00166984-00167151 our feedback i'll be glad to hear you 9-laQO9B7R8-00736-00167152-00167383 know just to help improve all that you 9-laQO9B7R8-00737-00167384-00167566 know happens on the channel 9-laQO9B7R8-00738-00167567-00167735 and it looks like i've been doing this 9-laQO9B7R8-00739-00167736-00167814 like 9-laQO9B7R8-00740-00167815-00168126 probably over five years i think so yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00741-00168127-00168454 maybe actually between five years old 9-laQO9B7R8-00742-00168455-00168759 well yeah hey you know i forgot i have 9-laQO9B7R8-00743-00168760-00168951 to be preparing my 9-laQO9B7R8-00744-00168952-00169126 rubber 9-laQO9B7R8-00745-00169127-00169447 that i'll be using for the 9-laQO9B7R8-00746-00169448-00169702 i'll be using to wrap 9-laQO9B7R8-00747-00169703-00169983 the bank on it once it is ready 9-laQO9B7R8-00748-00169984-00170271 i have to be preparing it and i am 9-laQO9B7R8-00749-00170272-00170423 just talking 9-laQO9B7R8-00750-00170424-00170583 after you prepare them so that once it's 9-laQO9B7R8-00751-00170584-00170790 the one quiz ready 9-laQO9B7R8-00752-00170791-00170883 let me 9-laQO9B7R8-00753-00170884-00171519 just make sure water goes everywhere 9-laQO9B7R8-00754-00171520-00171807 okay 9-laQO9B7R8-00755-00171808-00171887 hmm 9-laQO9B7R8-00756-00171888-00172326 i'm crisp melon smelling eyes 9-laQO9B7R8-00757-00172327-00172478 so i'm already to allow it to cook a 9-laQO9B7R8-00758-00172479-00172631 little bit more and then 9-laQO9B7R8-00759-00172632-00172847 yeah so this these are the wrappers i'm 9-laQO9B7R8-00760-00172848-00173047 going to be using to house 9-laQO9B7R8-00761-00173048-00173302 my phantom 9-laQO9B7R8-00762-00173303-00173566 you normally will have to divide it 9-laQO9B7R8-00763-00173567-00173935 into two like this 9-laQO9B7R8-00764-00173936-00174095 and then you leave this so you just 9-laQO9B7R8-00765-00174096-00174271 divide or cut to one side and leave it 9-laQO9B7R8-00766-00174272-00174471 this way so you can use it to wrap 9-laQO9B7R8-00767-00174472-00174654 there i don't know how many balls am i 9-laQO9B7R8-00768-00174655-00174790 going to get probably going to get like 9-laQO9B7R8-00769-00174791-00174902 about 9-laQO9B7R8-00770-00174903-00175247 or six balls yeah for sure will also 9-laQO9B7R8-00771-00175248-00175463 depend on the size that i'll need to 9-laQO9B7R8-00772-00175464-00175711 i'll be moving or be 9-laQO9B7R8-00773-00175712-00175863 i'm taking them 9-laQO9B7R8-00774-00175864-00176054 into the drawback i don't think i'll be 9-laQO9B7R8-00775-00176055-00176287 doing anything so big so probably i need 9-laQO9B7R8-00776-00176288-00176463 to i'll be getting some 9-laQO9B7R8-00777-00176464-00176814 more balls yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00778-00176815-00177095 so just let me know okay let me know 9-laQO9B7R8-00779-00177096-00177399 um a little feedback about 9-laQO9B7R8-00780-00177400-00177590 the journey so far or genuine me or 9-laQO9B7R8-00781-00177591-00177807 finding my channel watching my videos 9-laQO9B7R8-00782-00177808-00178135 how you you see things or what things 9-laQO9B7R8-00783-00178136-00178359 like you what i can improve what i can 9-laQO9B7R8-00784-00178360-00178607 do more to help their channel grow and 9-laQO9B7R8-00785-00178608-00178814 if you've also noticed you've been 9-laQO9B7R8-00786-00178815-00179102 like ten thousand five subscribers which 9-laQO9B7R8-00787-00179103-00179287 is like a very great milestone but i 9-laQO9B7R8-00788-00179288-00179431 haven't really made noise about it 9-laQO9B7R8-00789-00179432-00179535 because 9-laQO9B7R8-00790-00179536-00179719 it's not all so much about the numbers 9-laQO9B7R8-00791-00179720-00179878 for me which it's it's called for 9-laQO9B7R8-00792-00179879-00180135 celebration however i just was just it's 9-laQO9B7R8-00793-00180136-00180351 just you know normal it's good to know 9-laQO9B7R8-00794-00180352-00180607 that you know people appreciate and like 9-laQO9B7R8-00795-00180608-00180790 what you know i do and subscribe to the 9-laQO9B7R8-00796-00180791-00180990 channel keeps it going 9-laQO9B7R8-00797-00180991-00181078 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00798-00181079-00181159 so 9-laQO9B7R8-00799-00181160-00181295 i'll be glad to always have you 9-laQO9B7R8-00800-00181296-00181438 subscribe so you can see more of my 9-laQO9B7R8-00801-00181439-00181575 videos 9-laQO9B7R8-00802-00181576-00181847 yeah it's very important so 10 000 9-laQO9B7R8-00803-00181848-00182047 subscribers thank you very much 9-laQO9B7R8-00804-00182048-00182351 for being a part of this training it's 9-laQO9B7R8-00805-00182352-00182590 yeah it's been it's not been easy it's 9-laQO9B7R8-00806-00182591-00182935 been you know one and a half on and off 9-laQO9B7R8-00807-00182936-00183166 yeah because at some point other things 9-laQO9B7R8-00808-00183167-00183463 against my way i'm able to record yeah i 9-laQO9B7R8-00809-00183464-00183678 hope you you heard of probes yeah these 9-laQO9B7R8-00810-00183679-00183878 are the characters i have in mind my 9-laQO9B7R8-00811-00183879-00184071 hood they keep me you know entertained 9-laQO9B7R8-00812-00184072-00184183 and 9-laQO9B7R8-00813-00184184-00184447 company at night especially when 9-laQO9B7R8-00814-00184448-00184719 everyone is asleep then they'll be busy 9-laQO9B7R8-00815-00184720-00184935 uh you know singing you know an 9-laQO9B7R8-00816-00184936-00185038 orchestra 9-laQO9B7R8-00817-00185039-00185271 yeah so maybe it's one time i'll just 9-laQO9B7R8-00818-00185272-00185495 record them singing okay i'll share with 9-laQO9B7R8-00819-00185496-00185583 you 9-laQO9B7R8-00820-00185584-00185951 so i think i have enough of my 9-laQO9B7R8-00821-00185952-00186087 rapper 9-laQO9B7R8-00822-00186088-00186607 so at this point i'm just going to 9-laQO9B7R8-00823-00186608-00186838 think it's body enough 9-laQO9B7R8-00824-00186839-00187135 so let me just do my final staring or 9-laQO9B7R8-00825-00187136-00187390 driving not staring i'm just going to 9-laQO9B7R8-00826-00187391-00187759 drive it so my final driving 9-laQO9B7R8-00827-00187760-00187887 okay 9-laQO9B7R8-00828-00187888-00188207 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00829-00188208-00188487 now this point it's become sleepy so you 9-laQO9B7R8-00830-00188488-00188726 have to be very careful else you have 9-laQO9B7R8-00831-00188727-00188863 your whole bank 9-laQO9B7R8-00832-00188864-00189135 you know coming out of the pot falling 9-laQO9B7R8-00833-00189136-00189359 down 9-laQO9B7R8-00834-00189360-00189487 i don't know how that is going to feel 9-laQO9B7R8-00835-00189488-00189614 anyway 9-laQO9B7R8-00836-00189615-00189838 well i've not experienced that before 9-laQO9B7R8-00837-00189839-00190054 but it can happen you know 9-laQO9B7R8-00838-00190055-00190150 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00839-00190151-00190383 so 9-laQO9B7R8-00840-00190384-00191399 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00841-00191400-00191535 okay great 9-laQO9B7R8-00842-00191536-00191766 now you noticed that it's it's got an 9-laQO9B7R8-00843-00191767-00191883 arden game 9-laQO9B7R8-00844-00191884-00192199 so depending on how you want it you 9-laQO9B7R8-00845-00192200-00192399 might maybe add a little bit more water 9-laQO9B7R8-00846-00192400-00192583 let me just send this to my wife and 9-laQO9B7R8-00847-00192584-00193414 take some fans 9-laQO9B7R8-00848-00193415-00193990 yep it's happening live in college baby 9-laQO9B7R8-00849-00193991-00194175 so that's their father so 9-laQO9B7R8-00850-00194176-00194407 she's gonna be going crazy seeing me 9-laQO9B7R8-00851-00194408-00194566 cooking 9-laQO9B7R8-00852-00194567-00195743 all right 9-laQO9B7R8-00853-00195744-00196376 i must say smells good actually 9-laQO9B7R8-00854-00196377-00196687 [Music] 9-laQO9B7R8-00855-00196688-00196783 now 9-laQO9B7R8-00856-00196784-00197054 it's also important to at least 9-laQO9B7R8-00857-00197055-00197311 have a little you know taste to be sure 9-laQO9B7R8-00858-00197312-00197559 if it is you know well cooked before i 9-laQO9B7R8-00859-00197560-00198038 take it off 9-laQO9B7R8-00860-00198039-00198207 it's not bad 9-laQO9B7R8-00861-00198208-00198407 but i think i would want to add a little 9-laQO9B7R8-00862-00198408-00198695 bit more water have a boil one more time 9-laQO9B7R8-00863-00198696-00198814 and then 9-laQO9B7R8-00864-00198815-00198911 you know 9-laQO9B7R8-00865-00198912-00199199 proceed to take them off that fire 9-laQO9B7R8-00866-00199200-00199975 i'll take it off the fire 9-laQO9B7R8-00867-00199976-00200199 you know i'm feeling 9-laQO9B7R8-00868-00200200-00200407 i don't know what it's interesting i'm 9-laQO9B7R8-00869-00200408-00200566 just thinking so what if this video 9-laQO9B7R8-00870-00200567-00200743 becomes viral 9-laQO9B7R8-00871-00200744-00201023 yo 9-laQO9B7R8-00872-00201024-00201214 yo youtuber 9-laQO9B7R8-00873-00201215-00201390 driving banco 9-laQO9B7R8-00874-00201391-00201566 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00875-00201567-00201895 that's your common anyway 9-laQO9B7R8-00876-00201896-00202111 okay i think i don't think i need more 9-laQO9B7R8-00877-00202112-00202231 water but 9-laQO9B7R8-00878-00202232-00203678 it looks okay now 9-laQO9B7R8-00879-00203679-00203919 this is really a lot of bike it's a lot 9-laQO9B7R8-00880-00203920-00204054 of energy 9-laQO9B7R8-00881-00204055-00204207 i think my camera has been good too it's 9-laQO9B7R8-00882-00204208-00204383 been able to record for this entire 9-laQO9B7R8-00883-00204384-00204654 period i've gone off 9-laQO9B7R8-00884-00204655-00204838 i haven't cut any opportunities there's 9-laQO9B7R8-00885-00204839-00205023 like a continuous process continuous 9-laQO9B7R8-00886-00205023-00205206 video here haven't i'm going to be 9-laQO9B7R8-00887-00205207-00205351 uploading it like that i'm going to be 9-laQO9B7R8-00888-00205352-00205510 cutting parts away 9-laQO9B7R8-00889-00205511-00205671 so 9-laQO9B7R8-00890-00205671-00206127 you see the raw uncut video 9-laQO9B7R8-00891-00206128-00207431 okay 9-laQO9B7R8-00892-00207432-00207614 i'm sure a lot of people come and see so 9-laQO9B7R8-00893-00207615-00207934 what is it that i don't know how to do 9-laQO9B7R8-00894-00207935-00208014 well 9-laQO9B7R8-00895-00208015-00208206 i think it is live 9-laQO9B7R8-00896-00208207-00208486 once you have the chance about the 9-laQO9B7R8-00897-00208487-00208646 opportunity to 9-laQO9B7R8-00898-00208648-00208919 learn any skill at all you should you 9-laQO9B7R8-00899-00208919-00209142 should just go for it and learn it don't 9-laQO9B7R8-00900-00209144-00209382 consider it as a waste of time you don't 9-laQO9B7R8-00901-00209383-00209623 know or you never know when that skills 9-laQO9B7R8-00902-00209623-00209831 is going to be necessary or come into 9-laQO9B7R8-00903-00209832-00210039 play so that's one thing about me i 9-laQO9B7R8-00904-00210040-00210231 trust much as possible to learn almost 9-laQO9B7R8-00905-00210232-00210398 anything 9-laQO9B7R8-00906-00210400-00210575 yeah once i have the time 9-laQO9B7R8-00907-00210576-00210823 and the resources to be able to learn i 9-laQO9B7R8-00908-00210823-00210903 just 9-laQO9B7R8-00909-00210904-00211063 sure 9-laQO9B7R8-00910-00211064-00211223 does 9-laQO9B7R8-00911-00211223-00211455 um oh i can get myself into it and then 9-laQO9B7R8-00912-00211456-00211567 just 9-laQO9B7R8-00913-00211567-00211951 i think at this point i'm okay 9-laQO9B7R8-00914-00211952-00212479 the fire 9-laQO9B7R8-00915-00212480-00212942 okay i think i'm just okay this way 9-laQO9B7R8-00916-00212944-00213119 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00917-00213119-00213327 okay so 9-laQO9B7R8-00918-00213328-00214182 i'm going to be taking it off 9-laQO9B7R8-00919-00214183-00214351 now need 9-laQO9B7R8-00920-00214352-00214727 more water at this point 9-laQO9B7R8-00921-00214728-00214863 i'm sure you might be wondering why am i 9-laQO9B7R8-00922-00214864-00215103 using pure water and not the rain water 9-laQO9B7R8-00923-00215104-00215303 that we have over here the reason is 9-laQO9B7R8-00924-00215304-00215679 because we've not done any form of farms 9-laQO9B7R8-00925-00215680-00215942 um how do you how do i call it we've not 9-laQO9B7R8-00926-00215944-00216182 treated the water so we mostly just use 9-laQO9B7R8-00927-00216183-00216271 it for 9-laQO9B7R8-00928-00216271-00216391 buffing 9-laQO9B7R8-00929-00216392-00216623 and if it's going to be for cooking make 9-laQO9B7R8-00930-00216623-00216791 sure it's going to be like boiled very 9-laQO9B7R8-00931-00216792-00216991 well so that you know you don't have 9-laQO9B7R8-00932-00216992-00217255 like any issues so i'm looking at having 9-laQO9B7R8-00933-00217256-00217494 you know it's treated so that at least 9-laQO9B7R8-00934-00217496-00217646 we can 9-laQO9B7R8-00935-00217648-00217742 um 9-laQO9B7R8-00936-00217744-00217871 use it 9-laQO9B7R8-00937-00217871-00218063 so this is the time 9-laQO9B7R8-00938-00218064-00218182 it's ready 9-laQO9B7R8-00939-00218183-00218310 i have to 9-laQO9B7R8-00940-00218311-00218431 you know 9-laQO9B7R8-00941-00218432-00218646 um 9-laQO9B7R8-00942-00218648-00218975 wrap it in there 9-laQO9B7R8-00943-00218976-00219182 the rubber that i have 9-laQO9B7R8-00944-00219183-00219415 so during this point there are different 9-laQO9B7R8-00945-00219416-00219631 ways that people would want to go about 9-laQO9B7R8-00946-00219632-00219710 it 9-laQO9B7R8-00947-00219711-00220455 it's been a while so just yeah riding 9-laQO9B7R8-00948-00220456-00220879 i'm not going to be 9-laQO9B7R8-00949-00220880-00220991 doing it 9-laQO9B7R8-00950-00220992-00221494 in any 9-laQO9B7R8-00951-00221496-00221687 seriously yeah i'm just going to do it 9-laQO9B7R8-00952-00221688-00221855 something that is going to be eater but 9-laQO9B7R8-00953-00221856-00222031 that's all 9-laQO9B7R8-00954-00222032-00222142 so 9-laQO9B7R8-00955-00222144-00222287 let's wrap it 9-laQO9B7R8-00956-00222288-00224479 one 9-laQO9B7R8-00957-00224480-00226231 okay 9-laQO9B7R8-00958-00226232-00226327 so 9-laQO9B7R8-00959-00226328-00226503 as part of the skills of things that i 9-laQO9B7R8-00960-00226504-00226703 know how to do 9-laQO9B7R8-00961-00226704-00226882 will 9-laQO9B7R8-00962-00226883-00227287 be i have a little bit of cupping cheap 9-laQO9B7R8-00963-00227288-00227455 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-00964-00227456-00227742 i have to be eating 9-laQO9B7R8-00965-00227744-00228046 so that's 9-laQO9B7R8-00966-00228048-00228319 i can 9-laQO9B7R8-00967-00228319-00228575 satisfy my hunger 9-laQO9B7R8-00968-00228576-00228782 i'm a little bit hungry actually it's 9-laQO9B7R8-00969-00228783-00229310 it's been long since i had 9-laQO9B7R8-00970-00229311-00229534 there's a lot of things i i can do 9-laQO9B7R8-00971-00229535-00229687 i know how to do 9-laQO9B7R8-00972-00229688-00229934 access things now as i have a bit of 9-laQO9B7R8-00973-00229935-00230175 carpentry background let me see my 9-laQO9B7R8-00974-00230176-00230398 background 9-laQO9B7R8-00975-00230400-00230639 so i think i'm going to be getting 9-laQO9B7R8-00976-00230640-00230823 just like about six balls 9-laQO9B7R8-00977-00230823-00231415 that's fine that's that's 9-laQO9B7R8-00978-00231416-00231471 okay 9-laQO9B7R8-00979-00231471-00231639 [Music] 9-laQO9B7R8-00980-00231640-00231982 so carpentry a little bit of 9-laQO9B7R8-00981-00231983-00232782 electric cars or the electric car wise 9-laQO9B7R8-00982-00232783-00232871 um 9-laQO9B7R8-00983-00232871-00233063 a bit off 9-laQO9B7R8-00984-00233064-00233303 well then you actually went to you know 9-laQO9B7R8-00985-00233304-00233646 i don't know if you send videos of my 9-laQO9B7R8-00986-00233648-00234055 metal fabrication 9-laQO9B7R8-00987-00234056-00234439 journey i i had a chance to pursue like 9-laQO9B7R8-00988-00234440-00234582 a scholarship 9-laQO9B7R8-00989-00234583-00234742 uh programming 9-laQO9B7R8-00990-00234744-00235006 metal fabrication so took advantage of 9-laQO9B7R8-00991-00235007-00235167 it and then 9-laQO9B7R8-00992-00235167-00235282 went 9-laQO9B7R8-00993-00235283-00235487 to you know 9-laQO9B7R8-00994-00235488-00235671 spend like about a year 9-laQO9B7R8-00995-00235671-00235953 yeah in without fabrication 9-laQO9B7R8-00996-00235954-00236503 [Music] 9-laQO9B7R8-00997-00236504-00236798 i actually spent time or when tried to 9-laQO9B7R8-00998-00236800-00237063 do that because like it was free and 9-laQO9B7R8-00999-00237064-00237255 don't be bad it was like a skill that 9-laQO9B7R8-01000-00237256-00237446 wouldn't be bad to have a talk like 9-laQO9B7R8-01001-00237448-00237655 especially that i'm looking at having 9-laQO9B7R8-01002-00237656-00237879 this you know container projects that 9-laQO9B7R8-01003-00237880-00238046 would be a skill that would come in very 9-laQO9B7R8-01004-00238048-00238446 very handy during then 9-laQO9B7R8-01005-00238448-00238663 i learnt that before 9-laQO9B7R8-01006-00238664-00238942 or after i had done my first container 9-laQO9B7R8-01007-00238944-00239119 project so 9-laQO9B7R8-01008-00239119-00239279 it's 9-laQO9B7R8-01009-00239280-00239510 i didn't get to implement it or use it 9-laQO9B7R8-01010-00239511-00239703 much yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-01011-00239704-00239831 so far 9-laQO9B7R8-01012-00239832-00239982 getting off 9-laQO9B7R8-01013-00239983-00240215 completing that school which is design 9-laQO9B7R8-01014-00240216-00240494 technology institute which is not like 9-laQO9B7R8-01015-00240496-00240782 it's a very you know nice school should 9-laQO9B7R8-01016-00240783-00241079 one time pay them a reversal 9-laQO9B7R8-01017-00241080-00241327 i feel good to be very like part of the 9-laQO9B7R8-01018-00241328-00241598 very fast you know batch of students 9-laQO9B7R8-01019-00241600-00241767 that we've already had 9-laQO9B7R8-01020-00241767-00242127 naughty house like i think since 2019 so 9-laQO9B7R8-01021-00242128-00242510 had more batches since then 9-laQO9B7R8-01022-00242511-00242967 well my bank may not be looking sexy as 9-laQO9B7R8-01023-00242967-00243087 it should 9-laQO9B7R8-01024-00243088-00243294 however it's fine 9-laQO9B7R8-01025-00243296-00243527 yeah especially after so many years of 9-laQO9B7R8-01026-00243528-00243742 not you know preparing banco and then 9-laQO9B7R8-01027-00243744-00243982 just bouncing back into it and 9-laQO9B7R8-01028-00243983-00244239 sharing it with you all 9-laQO9B7R8-01029-00244240-00244534 which 9-laQO9B7R8-01030-00244535-00244719 i know some are going to chat 9-laQO9B7R8-01031-00244719-00245015 yeah chastise me 9-laQO9B7R8-01032-00245016-00245239 about the process and the rest 9-laQO9B7R8-01033-00245240-00245431 somehow you're going to be very okay 9-laQO9B7R8-01034-00245432-00245663 with it you know 9-laQO9B7R8-01035-00245664-00245958 seeing someone especially in you 9-laQO9B7R8-01036-00245959-00246151 driving bangku you know interestingly a 9-laQO9B7R8-01037-00246152-00246367 lot of me who can 9-laQO9B7R8-01038-00246367-00246471 cook 9-laQO9B7R8-01039-00246471-00246639 yeah yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-01040-00246640-00246855 all right so if i have a friend michael 9-laQO9B7R8-01041-00246856-00247310 who cooks very well 9-laQO9B7R8-01042-00247311-00247630 he has those um 9-laQO9B7R8-01043-00247631-00247894 female siblings so 9-laQO9B7R8-01044-00247896-00248134 he's always the one acting out there 9-laQO9B7R8-01045-00248135-00248382 the lady 9-laQO9B7R8-01046-00248383-00248606 going to market 9-laQO9B7R8-01047-00248607-00248703 and 9-laQO9B7R8-01048-00248704-00248798 you know 9-laQO9B7R8-01049-00248800-00248942 cooking 9-laQO9B7R8-01050-00248944-00249198 yeah such an adorable kid 9-laQO9B7R8-01051-00249200-00249342 it looks like this one i'm going to be 9-laQO9B7R8-01052-00249344-00249646 eating this one so that is not going to 9-laQO9B7R8-01053-00249648-00249815 go into any rubber i'm just going to 9-laQO9B7R8-01054-00249816-00249942 leave it like this 9-laQO9B7R8-01055-00249944-00250119 i think 9-laQO9B7R8-01056-00250119-00250287 i'm done 9-laQO9B7R8-01057-00250288-00250463 yeah i'm not going to let 9-laQO9B7R8-01058-00250464-00250815 any bits of my bunku get stuck in this 9-laQO9B7R8-01059-00250816-00250958 in this 9-laQO9B7R8-01060-00250959-00251046 pot 9-laQO9B7R8-01061-00251048-00251182 now i'm going to be eating this bunker 9-laQO9B7R8-01062-00251183-00251271 with 9-laQO9B7R8-01063-00251271-00251430 pepper i'm going to be grinding pepper 9-laQO9B7R8-01064-00251431-00251534 so 9-laQO9B7R8-01065-00251535-00251782 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-01066-00251783-00252063 i'm going to be grinding pepe 9-laQO9B7R8-01067-00252064-00253471 and i it with it 9-laQO9B7R8-01068-00253471-00253679 okay so i have how many balls 9-laQO9B7R8-01069-00253680-00253942 i have four balls plus this i'm gonna 9-laQO9B7R8-01070-00253944-00254110 turn one making it 9-laQO9B7R8-01071-00254111-00254391 five now i'm down in my pot 9-laQO9B7R8-01072-00254392-00254639 and the fire so i'm just going to take 9-laQO9B7R8-01073-00254640-00255135 this off it 9-laQO9B7R8-01074-00255136-00256282 [Music] 9-laQO9B7R8-01075-00256283-00256471 okay 9-laQO9B7R8-01076-00256471-00256615 i think this one i'm going to need my 9-laQO9B7R8-01077-00256616-00256863 file for anything will i need wi-fi no i 9-laQO9B7R8-01078-00256864-00257221 don't think so i'll just grind it then 9-laQO9B7R8-01079-00257223-00257351 [Applause] 9-laQO9B7R8-01080-00257352-00257430 okay 9-laQO9B7R8-01081-00257431-00257519 so 9-laQO9B7R8-01082-00257519-00257830 this is the first session of my 9-laQO9B7R8-01083-00257831-00258071 vancouver cooking process 9-laQO9B7R8-01084-00258071-00258287 i'm sure you you've enjoyed it so far 9-laQO9B7R8-01085-00258288-00258446 i'm going to go inside and i'll go and 9-laQO9B7R8-01086-00258448-00258703 grind a pepe and i have salmon oh great 9-laQO9B7R8-01087-00258704-00258951 i have my salmon too and i want to 9-laQO9B7R8-01088-00258952-00259103 probably heat it up a little bit and 9-laQO9B7R8-01089-00259104-00259319 then yeah so that will be it for this 9-laQO9B7R8-01090-00259319-00259615 process the next one will just be me 9-laQO9B7R8-01091-00259616-00259791 grinding my paper that may be enjoying 9-laQO9B7R8-01092-00259792-00260263 it 9-laQO9B7R8-01093-00260264-00260382 so 9-laQO9B7R8-01094-00260383-00260630 i'm going to be 9-laQO9B7R8-01095-00260631-00260727 um 9-laQO9B7R8-01096-00260728-00260919 is this roasting no there's no roaster 9-laQO9B7R8-01097-00260919-00261079 is this this greyline 9-laQO9B7R8-01098-00261080-00261263 there's no grilling what could this be i 9-laQO9B7R8-01099-00261264-00261487 don't know yeah i forgot to mine cooking 9-laQO9B7R8-01100-00261488-00261623 times but i'm just going to be applying 9-laQO9B7R8-01101-00261623-00261910 a little bit of heat to my salmon too 9-laQO9B7R8-01102-00261911-00262151 and take away the oil so much oil from 9-laQO9B7R8-01103-00262152-00262439 it and then i'm going to use it with my 9-laQO9B7R8-01104-00262440-00262599 grinded pepper i'm here to grind the 9-laQO9B7R8-01106-00266024-00266303 so it's time for me to 9-laQO9B7R8-01107-00266304-00266527 grind my pepper 9-laQO9B7R8-01108-00266528-00266767 i have paprika here i'm using like about 9-laQO9B7R8-01109-00266768-00266967 four pieces of it 9-laQO9B7R8-01110-00266968-00267295 and then i have two tomatoes 9-laQO9B7R8-01111-00267296-00267663 i have an onion 9-laQO9B7R8-01112-00267664-00267839 and salt 9-laQO9B7R8-01113-00267840-00268047 and then i have my 9-laQO9B7R8-01114-00268048-00268206 ethane 9-laQO9B7R8-01115-00268207-00268703 webu 9-laQO9B7R8-01116-00268704-00268991 let me cut my onions and then grind this 9-laQO9B7R8-01117-00268992-00269599 together 9-laQO9B7R8-01118-00269600-00269823 so it's actually getting 9-laQO9B7R8-01119-00269824-00270071 a bit late that's how come i have 9-laQO9B7R8-01120-00270072-00270334 uh switched to a resulted to using the 9-laQO9B7R8-01121-00270335-00271087 lights in the kitchen here 9-laQO9B7R8-01122-00271088-00271255 i'm looking at probably 9-laQO9B7R8-01123-00271256-00271575 doing substitute soup tomorrow 9-laQO9B7R8-01124-00271576-00271823 and maybe on sunday pound fufu i don't 9-laQO9B7R8-01125-00271824-00272006 know 9-laQO9B7R8-01126-00272007-00272191 if it was like i'm chilling 9-laQO9B7R8-01127-00272192-00272287 a lot 9-laQO9B7R8-01128-00272288-00272534 without my wife being around that's what 9-laQO9B7R8-01129-00272535-00272727 she keeps saying it's like i waited for 9-laQO9B7R8-01130-00272728-00272879 it to go and 9-laQO9B7R8-01131-00272880-00273015 i'm doing 9-laQO9B7R8-01132-00273016-00273247 all the chilling here it's interesting 9-laQO9B7R8-01133-00273248-00273391 anyway 9-laQO9B7R8-01134-00273392-00273527 so 9-laQO9B7R8-01135-00273528-00273782 yeah it's of course good to to 9-laQO9B7R8-01136-00273783-00274006 actually cook a messy 9-laQO9B7R8-01137-00274007-00274287 if if you can't cook 9-laQO9B7R8-01138-00274288-00274503 it's a very good thing 9-laQO9B7R8-01139-00274504-00274687 at least you 9-laQO9B7R8-01140-00274688-00274863 don't be hungry 9-laQO9B7R8-01141-00274864-00275103 when there's no one to you know cook for 9-laQO9B7R8-01142-00275104-00275439 you 9-laQO9B7R8-01143-00275440-00275599 so 9-laQO9B7R8-01144-00275600-00275791 i'm glad at least i took cooking 9-laQO9B7R8-01145-00275792-00276151 seriously at an early stage and i was 9-laQO9B7R8-01146-00276152-00276351 able to you know 9-laQO9B7R8-01147-00276352-00276591 learn to cook something 9-laQO9B7R8-01148-00276592-00276823 so 9-laQO9B7R8-01149-00276824-00277051 you can't do this 9-laQO9B7R8-01150-00277052-00277471 [Laughter] 9-laQO9B7R8-01151-00277472-00277743 some people like to add garlic and even 9-laQO9B7R8-01152-00277744-00277991 ginger but i'm not really so much a fan 9-laQO9B7R8-01153-00277992-00278071 of 9-laQO9B7R8-01154-00278072-00278327 garlic i like to have it that i use and 9-laQO9B7R8-01155-00278328-00278463 soup steamed 9-laQO9B7R8-01156-00278464-00278647 i've got 9-laQO9B7R8-01157-00278648-00279018 a 9-laQO9B7R8-01158-00279019-00280087 [Music] 9-laQO9B7R8-01159-00280088-00280510 yeah so i want i like to have my 9-laQO9B7R8-01160-00280511-00280647 um perfect 9-laQO9B7R8-01161-00280648-00280743 pepper 9-laQO9B7R8-01162-00280744-00280919 very sweet so 9-laQO9B7R8-01163-00280920-00281095 i'm going to grind this including the 9-laQO9B7R8-01164-00281096-00281343 seeds i've been very scared of the seed 9-laQO9B7R8-01165-00281344-00281606 for a very long time because of an 9-laQO9B7R8-01166-00281607-00281847 experience a friend had 9-laQO9B7R8-01167-00281848-00282110 doing in the childhood week where the 9-laQO9B7R8-01168-00282111-00282303 seed i think 9-laQO9B7R8-01169-00282304-00282558 caused some his using his tummy he had 9-laQO9B7R8-01170-00282559-00282743 to be a painter on 9-laQO9B7R8-01171-00282744-00283223 the reservation 9-laQO9B7R8-01172-00283224-00283447 and when i'm grinding i make sure i try 9-laQO9B7R8-01173-00283448-00283703 as much as possible 9-laQO9B7R8-01174-00283704-00284006 to the seats have like a very fine 9-laQO9B7R8-01175-00284007-00284206 pepper so yeah i think what i have nice 9-laQO9B7R8-01176-00284207-00284551 is good i'm going to add some tomatoes 9-laQO9B7R8-01177-00284552-00284743 so also the tomatoes 9-laQO9B7R8-01178-00284744-00284982 i i like to get rid of the seeds even 9-laQO9B7R8-01179-00284983-00285175 before i place them in there 9-laQO9B7R8-01180-00285176-00285430 and wear pool so 9-laQO9B7R8-01181-00285431-00285551 let me just 9-laQO9B7R8-01182-00285552-00285710 cut this off 9-laQO9B7R8-01183-00285711-00285958 and take off the seats yeah there's a 9-laQO9B7R8-01184-00285959-00286351 lot of seats 9-laQO9B7R8-01185-00286352-00286487 yeah so 9-laQO9B7R8-01186-00286488-00286647 as my name 9-laQO9B7R8-01187-00286648-00286951 suggests i am a gun 9-laQO9B7R8-01188-00286952-00287447 a correct guy 9-laQO9B7R8-01189-00287448-00287623 and 9-laQO9B7R8-01190-00287624-00287879 interestingly we're not born 9-laQO9B7R8-01191-00287880-00287999 like you know 9-laQO9B7R8-01192-00288000-00288182 in a girl community so we didn't really 9-laQO9B7R8-01193-00288183-00288423 know how to speak up so i had to i was 9-laQO9B7R8-01194-00288424-00288695 doing my um 9-laQO9B7R8-01195-00288696-00289015 like any years not so early maybe 9-laQO9B7R8-01196-00289016-00289215 a little bit in other words uh i do 9-laQO9B7R8-01197-00289216-00289375 sense good 9-laQO9B7R8-01198-00289376-00289623 or period that was when i had to 9-laQO9B7R8-01199-00289624-00289887 like go stay with my that 9-laQO9B7R8-01200-00289888-00290151 my step-mom and then that was when i 9-laQO9B7R8-01201-00290152-00290479 i learned how to speak 9-laQO9B7R8-01202-00290480-00290599 yeah so 9-laQO9B7R8-01203-00290600-00290830 my guy is not so much of a perfect 9-laQO9B7R8-01204-00290831-00291191 typical person who has lived yeah and 9-laQO9B7R8-01205-00291192-00291463 this yoga community is like their entire 9-laQO9B7R8-01206-00291464-00291575 life 9-laQO9B7R8-01207-00291576-00291823 but i attract anyway 9-laQO9B7R8-01208-00291824-00291999 so 9-laQO9B7R8-01209-00292000-00292223 yeah and you know for good for the girls 9-laQO9B7R8-01210-00292224-00292463 we like you know we don't joke about 9-laQO9B7R8-01211-00292464-00292567 kinky 9-laQO9B7R8-01212-00292568-00292767 without pepe 9-laQO9B7R8-01213-00292768-00292982 granted pepe 9-laQO9B7R8-01214-00292983-00293143 and 9-laQO9B7R8-01215-00293144-00293263 fish 9-laQO9B7R8-01216-00293264-00293367 so 9-laQO9B7R8-01217-00293368-00293606 it's been part of the tradition you know 9-laQO9B7R8-01218-00293607-00293854 that's how come it's easier for me to 9-laQO9B7R8-01219-00293855-00294039 you know learn how to 9-laQO9B7R8-01220-00294040-00294310 take this off especially prepare by my 9-laQO9B7R8-01221-00294311-00294519 congress because marco is not so far 9-laQO9B7R8-01222-00294520-00294654 from 9-laQO9B7R8-01223-00294655-00295103 uh 9-laQO9B7R8-01224-00295104-00295303 then i'm stealing some 9-laQO9B7R8-01225-00295304-00295463 meat and just 9-laQO9B7R8-01226-00295464-00295733 check that 9-laQO9B7R8-01227-00295734-00295895 [Music] 9-laQO9B7R8-01228-00295896-00296023 okay 9-laQO9B7R8-01229-00296024-00296134 so 9-laQO9B7R8-01230-00296135-00296327 yeah jesus completely takes a lot of 9-laQO9B7R8-01231-00296328-00296423 time 9-laQO9B7R8-01232-00296424-00296615 because today for instance i came back 9-laQO9B7R8-01233-00296616-00296830 from town early morning i went to the 9-laQO9B7R8-01234-00296831-00296982 market 9-laQO9B7R8-01235-00296983-00297175 one thing about this place is that i 9-laQO9B7R8-01236-00297176-00297295 keep saying it's 9-laQO9B7R8-01237-00297296-00297558 a chess boundary with the eastern region 9-laQO9B7R8-01238-00297559-00297767 and the central region so there's this 9-laQO9B7R8-01239-00297768-00297982 town known as bonjour 9-laQO9B7R8-01240-00297983-00298175 which is just like about 9-laQO9B7R8-01241-00298176-00298519 um five to ten minutes drive from the 9-laQO9B7R8-01242-00298520-00298671 main road 9-laQO9B7R8-01243-00298672-00298951 and the main road is also like about 9-laQO9B7R8-01244-00298952-00299134 eight to ten minutes because of the 9-laQO9B7R8-01245-00299135-00299358 nature of the road like the entire route 9-laQO9B7R8-01246-00299359-00299567 you need to slow down a bit but once you 9-laQO9B7R8-01247-00299568-00299751 get to the middle it's just like about 9-laQO9B7R8-01248-00299752-00300006 five to ten minutes depending on your 9-laQO9B7R8-01249-00300007-00300110 speed 9-laQO9B7R8-01250-00300111-00300239 yeah so 9-laQO9B7R8-01251-00300240-00300471 there's a market over there a very 9-laQO9B7R8-01252-00300472-00300639 popular pet market 9-laQO9B7R8-01253-00300640-00300847 so that's where we go to 9-laQO9B7R8-01254-00300848-00301047 buy our food stuff which is very very 9-laQO9B7R8-01255-00301048-00301263 moderate so you can't imagine this 9-laQO9B7R8-01256-00301264-00301487 one thing was like 30 seats 9-laQO9B7R8-01257-00301488-00301671 even if i had negotiated further i would 9-laQO9B7R8-01258-00301672-00301871 have gotten a good deal i didn't decide 9-laQO9B7R8-01259-00301872-00302295 to just stick to it because it was fine 9-laQO9B7R8-01260-00302296-00302454 so that's why i went to 9-laQO9B7R8-01261-00302455-00302687 shop this morning and then from there i 9-laQO9B7R8-01262-00302688-00302919 had a friend come by so we had to do 9-laQO9B7R8-01263-00302920-00303103 some work together 9-laQO9B7R8-01264-00303104-00303310 and then after that i had to go drop him 9-laQO9B7R8-01265-00303311-00303399 off 9-laQO9B7R8-01266-00303400-00303639 i pushed the road and then 9-laQO9B7R8-01267-00303640-00303919 i continued to visit someone 9-laQO9B7R8-01268-00303920-00304054 then i came back so i go back like 9-laQO9B7R8-01269-00304055-00304287 around to all one that i bought and then 9-laQO9B7R8-01270-00304288-00304487 i started the preparation for 9-laQO9B7R8-01271-00304488-00304630 my bunku 9-laQO9B7R8-01272-00304631-00304839 and it's uh mixing the 9-laQO9B7R8-01273-00304840-00305054 cassava dough it's the 9-laQO9B7R8-01274-00305055-00305223 condo 9-laQO9B7R8-01275-00305224-00305567 going to light the fire as a comfort i'm 9-laQO9B7R8-01276-00305568-00305751 going to prepare the vancouver after 9-laQO9B7R8-01277-00305752-00305839 that 9-laQO9B7R8-01278-00305840-00306039 i'm grinding the prepare 9-laQO9B7R8-01279-00306040-00306279 preparing the meat to be steamed for 9-laQO9B7R8-01280-00306280-00306503 tomorrow's soup that is if it's going to 9-laQO9B7R8-01281-00306504-00306734 come off 9-laQO9B7R8-01282-00306735-00306999 the head i'm gonna take one 9-laQO9B7R8-01283-00307000-00307310 on my head i wish i had a pet 9-laQO9B7R8-01284-00307311-00307391 or 9-laQO9B7R8-01285-00307392-00307703 yeah anymore around like cut 9-laQO9B7R8-01286-00307704-00307871 or a dog because this i'm just gonna 9-laQO9B7R8-01287-00307872-00307991 trade away 9-laQO9B7R8-01288-00307992-00308082 which 9-laQO9B7R8-01289-00308083-00308287 sometimes like 9-laQO9B7R8-01290-00308288-00308487 i don't feel so excited and happy about 9-laQO9B7R8-01291-00308488-00308695 it because this is something like you 9-laQO9B7R8-01292-00308696-00308951 know if you have 9-laQO9B7R8-01293-00308952-00309119 a cat or a dog 9-laQO9B7R8-01294-00309120-00309271 really be happy 9-laQO9B7R8-01295-00309272-00309543 eating this sometimes too what i do is 9-laQO9B7R8-01296-00309544-00309758 because we have beds coming by 9-laQO9B7R8-01297-00309759-00309991 i spread it maybe or just keep it 9-laQO9B7R8-01298-00309992-00310134 somewhere they can you know find them 9-laQO9B7R8-01299-00310135-00310382 and then eat it so 9-laQO9B7R8-01300-00310383-00310606 yeah so my 9-laQO9B7R8-01301-00310607-00310967 bunku it's pepe and um 9-laQO9B7R8-01302-00310968-00311071 fish 9-laQO9B7R8-01303-00311072-00311247 is done 9-laQO9B7R8-01304-00311248-00311503 um i'm not going to 9-laQO9B7R8-01305-00311504-00311679 be dishing this off i'm going to be 9-laQO9B7R8-01306-00311680-00311799 eating it in there 9-laQO9B7R8-01307-00311800-00311887 so 9-laQO9B7R8-01308-00311888-00312006 yeah i don't know i think there's so 9-laQO9B7R8-01309-00312007-00312199 many mysteries that guys are eating 9-laQO9B7R8-01310-00312200-00312382 nothing well well i don't believe any of 9-laQO9B7R8-01311-00312383-00312510 that i've been eating and i think i 9-laQO9B7R8-01312-00312511-00312758 watched my wife for some time and it's 9-laQO9B7R8-01313-00312759-00312975 it's nice yeah so 9-laQO9B7R8-01314-00312976-00313103 i'm going to be eating this in the 9-laQO9B7R8-01315-00313104-00313239 entire world 9-laQO9B7R8-01316-00313240-00313471 so that's just about it for today's 9-laQO9B7R8-01317-00313472-00313567 video 9-laQO9B7R8-01318-00313568-00313663 for 9-laQO9B7R8-01319-00313664-00313863 you coming along 9-laQO9B7R8-01320-00313864-00314175 preparing my banco which i 9-laQO9B7R8-01321-00314176-00314334 we prepared it together but i'm the only 9-laQO9B7R8-01322-00314335-00314503 one going to be eating it 9-laQO9B7R8-01323-00314504-00314767 that's interesting anyway so 9-laQO9B7R8-01324-00314768-00314847 yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-01325-00314848-00315110 and sharing with you some few 9-laQO9B7R8-01326-00315111-00315375 insight about my personal journey on 9-laQO9B7R8-01327-00315376-00315639 youtube and some of the things that i've 9-laQO9B7R8-01328-00315640-00315806 learned along the line 9-laQO9B7R8-01329-00315807-00315982 and your feedback looking forward to 9-laQO9B7R8-01330-00315983-00316087 them so 9-laQO9B7R8-01331-00316088-00316279 that's just about it thank you very much 9-laQO9B7R8-01332-00316280-00316495 for watching 9-laQO9B7R8-01333-00316496-00316647 do all to subscribe 9-laQO9B7R8-01334-00316648-00316799 if you haven't thank you very much for 9-laQO9B7R8-01335-00316800-00317054 being a part of my 10 000 subscribers 9-laQO9B7R8-01336-00317055-00317279 jenny if you haven't subscribed yet 9-laQO9B7R8-01337-00317280-00317519 please do i i'm glad to subscribe so 9-laQO9B7R8-01338-00317520-00317863 that you become a part of this family so 9-laQO9B7R8-01339-00317864-00318087 that'll be about it for this video i'll 9-laQO9B7R8-01340-00318088-00318263 see you in the next one 9-laQO9B7R8-01341-00318264-00318391 maybe i'll share 9-laQO9B7R8-01342-00318392-00318654 pictures or videos of the final thing 9-laQO9B7R8-01343-00318655-00318951 from meeting a team maybe not 9-laQO9B7R8-01344-00318952-00319487 all right so i'll see you 9-laQO9B7R8-01345-00319488-00319687 and now 9-laQO9B7R8-01346-00319688-00319887 to my favorite part 9-laQO9B7R8-01347-00319888-00320151 of the entire process this is the part i 9-laQO9B7R8-01348-00320152-00320375 love the most yeah 9-laQO9B7R8-01349-00320376-00320510 so 9-laQO9B7R8-01350-00320511-00320734 as you can see i have my banker with my 9-laQO9B7R8-01351-00320735-00320975 purple right here just show you what it 9-laQO9B7R8-01352-00320976-00321279 looks like inside looks like yeah but 9-laQO9B7R8-01353-00321280-00321447 this time for me so 9-laQO9B7R8-01354-00321448-00321687 this is what it looks like i'll just 9-laQO9B7R8-01355-00321688-00322023 tilt this a bit yeah so i have my pepe 9-laQO9B7R8-01356-00322024-00322295 got it prepared 9-laQO9B7R8-01357-00322296-00322471 i really don't have uh 9-laQO9B7R8-01358-00322472-00322703 had any table yet so this is my dining 9-laQO9B7R8-01359-00322704-00322823 table 9-laQO9B7R8-01360-00322824-00323167 and i'm going to be enjoying this so 9-laQO9B7R8-01361-00323168-00323528 yeah see you next time 9-CEDHpdZII-00000-00000050-00000361 an hour symbol H also abbreviated hour 9-CEDHpdZII-00001-00000362-00000571 is a unit of time conventionally 9-CEDHpdZII-00002-00000572-00000753 reckoned as one twenty-fourth of a day 9-CEDHpdZII-00003-00000754-00001182 and scientifically reckoned as 3599 to 9-CEDHpdZII-00004-00001183-00001506 3600 one seconds depending on conditions 9-CEDHpdZII-00005-00001507-00001798 the seasonal temporal or unequal hour 9-CEDHpdZII-00006-00001798-00001996 was established in the ancient Near East 9-CEDHpdZII-00007-00001997-00002184 as one twelfth of the night or day time 9-CEDHpdZII-00008-00002185-00002502 such hours varied by season latitude and 9-CEDHpdZII-00009-00002503-00002770 whether it was subsequently divided into 9-CEDHpdZII-00010-00002771-00003097 60 minutes each of 60 seconds it's East 9-CEDHpdZII-00011-00003098-00003301 Asian equivalent was the Shi which was 9-CEDHpdZII-00012-00003302-00003550 1/12 of the apparent solar day a similar 9-CEDHpdZII-00013-00003551-00003724 system was eventually developed in 9-CEDHpdZII-00014-00003725-00003888 Europe which measured its equal or 9-CEDHpdZII-00015-00003889-00004122 equinoctial hour as one 24th of such 9-CEDHpdZII-00016-00004123-00004375 days measured from noon to noon the 9-CEDHpdZII-00017-00004376-00004561 minor variations of this unit were 9-CEDHpdZII-00018-00004562-00004744 eventually smoothed by making it one 9-CEDHpdZII-00019-00004745-00004990 24th of the mean solar day based on the 9-CEDHpdZII-00020-00004991-00005167 measure of the sun's transit along the 9-CEDHpdZII-00021-00005168-00005356 celestial equator rather than along the 9-CEDHpdZII-00022-00005357-00005638 ecliptic this was finally abandoned due 9-CEDHpdZII-00023-00005639-00005791 to the minor slowing caused by the 9-CEDHpdZII-00024-00005792-00005992 Earth's tidal deceleration by the moon 9-CEDHpdZII-00025-00005993-00006309 in the modern metric system hours are an 9-CEDHpdZII-00026-00006310-00006631 accepted unit of time equal to 3600 9-CEDHpdZII-00027-00006631-00006823 seconds but an hour of coordinated 9-CEDHpdZII-00028-00006823-00007087 Universal Time UTC may incorporate a 9-CEDHpdZII-00029-00007088-00007323 positive or negative leap second making 9-CEDHpdZII-00030-00007325-00007906 it last 3599 or 3601 seconds in order to 9-CEDHpdZII-00031-00007906-00008194 keep it within 0.9 seconds of universal 9-CEDHpdZII-00032-00008195-00008377 time which is based on measurements of 9-CEDHpdZII-00033-00008378-00008548 the mean solar day at 0 degrees 9-CEDHpdZII-00034-00008549-00009114 longitude 9-CEDHpdZII-00035-00009115-00009598 topic name 9-CEDHpdZII-00036-00009599-00009808 the modern English word our as a 9-CEDHpdZII-00037-00009809-00010021 development of the anglo-norman or in 9-CEDHpdZII-00038-00010022-00010221 Middle English your first attested in 9-CEDHpdZII-00039-00010222-00010510 the 13th century it displaced the Old 9-CEDHpdZII-00040-00010511-00010935 English tied Old English tit time and 9-CEDHpdZII-00041-00010936-00011371 stoned stunned span of time the 9-CEDHpdZII-00042-00011372-00011574 anglo-norman term was a borrowing of old 9-CEDHpdZII-00043-00011575-00011767 French yer a variant of war which 9-CEDHpdZII-00044-00011768-00011985 derived from latin hora in greek hora 9-CEDHpdZII-00045-00011986-00012277 like Old English did and stunned hora 9-CEDHpdZII-00046-00012278-00012469 was originally a vaguer word for any 9-CEDHpdZII-00047-00012470-00012703 span of time including seasons and years 9-CEDHpdZII-00048-00012704-00012996 its proto-indo-european root has been 9-CEDHpdZII-00049-00012997-00013237 reconstructed as asterisk e a year 9-CEDHpdZII-00050-00013238-00013528 summer making our distantly cognate with 9-CEDHpdZII-00051-00013529-00013816 year the time of day is typically 9-CEDHpdZII-00052-00013816-00014016 expressed in english in terms of hours 9-CEDHpdZII-00053-00014016-00014296 whole hours on a 12-hour clock are 9-CEDHpdZII-00054-00014297-00014475 expressed using the contracted phrase 9-CEDHpdZII-00055-00014476-00014686 o'clock from the older of clock 10 a.m. 9-CEDHpdZII-00056-00014687-00014949 and 10 p.m. or both Redis 10 o'clock 9-CEDHpdZII-00057-00014950-00015334 hours on a 24-hour clock military time 9-CEDHpdZII-00058-00015335-00015663 are expressed as hundred or hundred 9-CEDHpdZII-00059-00015665-00016177 hours 1000 is read ten hundred or ten 9-CEDHpdZII-00060-00016178-00016443 hundred hours 10 p.m. would be 9-CEDHpdZII-00061-00016444-00016725 twenty-two hundred fifteen and thirty 9-CEDHpdZII-00062-00016726-00016950 minutes past the hour is expressed as a 9-CEDHpdZII-00063-00016951-00017461 quarter past or after and half past 9-CEDHpdZII-00064-00017462-00017677 respectively from there fraction of the 9-CEDHpdZII-00065-00017678-00017938 hour 15 minutes before the hour may be 9-CEDHpdZII-00066-00017939-00018424 expressed as a quarter to of till or 9-CEDHpdZII-00067-00018425-00018988 before the hour 9:45 may be read 9:45 or 9-CEDHpdZII-00068-00018989-00019687 a quarter till 10:00 9-CEDHpdZII-00069-00019688-00020185 topic history 9-CEDHpdZII-00070-00020186-00020525 you 9-CEDHpdZII-00071-00020526-00021013 topic Egypt 9-CEDHpdZII-00072-00021014-00021259 the ancient Egyptians began dividing the 9-CEDHpdZII-00073-00021260-00021550 night into WNW t at some time before the 9-CEDHpdZII-00074-00021551-00021778 compilation of the dynasty v Pyramid 9-CEDHpdZII-00075-00021779-00022227 Texts in the 24th century BC by 2150 BC 9-CEDHpdZII-00076-00022228-00022486 dynasty the ninth diagrams of stars 9-CEDHpdZII-00077-00022487-00022765 inside Egyptian coffin lids variously 9-CEDHpdZII-00078-00022766-00023152 known as diagonal calendars or star 9-CEDHpdZII-00079-00023153-00023470 clocks attest that there were exactly 12 9-CEDHpdZII-00080-00023471-00023623 of these clatchet 9-CEDHpdZII-00081-00023624-00023932 rites that it is certain this duodecimal 9-CEDHpdZII-00082-00023933-00024085 division of the night followed the 9-CEDHpdZII-00083-00024086-00024294 adoption of the Egyptian civil calendar 9-CEDHpdZII-00084-00024295-00024655 usually placed see 2800 BC on the basis 9-CEDHpdZII-00085-00024656-00024868 of analyses of the so thick cycle but a 9-CEDHpdZII-00086-00024869-00025108 lunar calendar presumably long predated 9-CEDHpdZII-00087-00025109-00025285 this and also would have had 12 months 9-CEDHpdZII-00088-00025286-00025591 in each of its years the coffin diagrams 9-CEDHpdZII-00089-00025592-00025758 showed that the Egyptians took note of 9-CEDHpdZII-00090-00025760-00026019 the heliacal risings of 36 stars or 9-CEDHpdZII-00091-00026020-00026358 constellations now known as deacons one 9-CEDHpdZII-00092-00026360-00026644 for each of the 10-day weeks of their 9-CEDHpdZII-00093-00026645-00026893 civil calendar 12 sets of alternate 9-CEDHpdZII-00094-00026894-00027211 triangle deacons were used for the 5 9-CEDHpdZII-00095-00027212-00027412 epic Domino days between years each 9-CEDHpdZII-00096-00027413-00027633 night the rising of 11 of these deacons 9-CEDHpdZII-00097-00027635-00027852 were noted separating the night into 12 9-CEDHpdZII-00098-00027854-00028036 divisions whose middle terms would have 9-CEDHpdZII-00099-00028037-00028239 lasted about 40 minutes each another 9-CEDHpdZII-00100-00028241-00028458 seven stars were noted by the Egyptians 9-CEDHpdZII-00101-00028460-00028665 during the Twilight and pre-dawn periods 9-CEDHpdZII-00102-00028666-00028831 although they were not important for the 9-CEDHpdZII-00103-00028832-00029062 hour divisions the original deacons used 9-CEDHpdZII-00104-00029063-00029200 by the Egyptians would have fallen 9-CEDHpdZII-00105-00029201-00029377 noticeably out of their proper places 9-CEDHpdZII-00106-00029377-00029664 over a span of several centuries by the 9-CEDHpdZII-00107-00029666-00029970 time of Amenhotep the third ce 1350 BC 9-CEDHpdZII-00108-00029972-00030208 the priests at karnak were using water 9-CEDHpdZII-00109-00030208-00030487 clocks to determine the hours these were 9-CEDHpdZII-00110-00030488-00030667 filled to the brim at sunset and the 9-CEDHpdZII-00111-00030668-00030844 hour determined by comparing the water 9-CEDHpdZII-00112-00030845-00031077 level against one of its 12 gages one 9-CEDHpdZII-00113-00031079-00031300 for each month of the year during the 9-CEDHpdZII-00114-00031301-00031513 New Kingdom another system of deacons 9-CEDHpdZII-00115-00031514-00031768 was used made up of 24 stars over the 9-CEDHpdZII-00116-00031769-00031948 course of the year in 12 within any one 9-CEDHpdZII-00117-00031949-00032260 night the later division of the day into 9-CEDHpdZII-00118-00032261-00032413 twelve hours was accomplished by 9-CEDHpdZII-00119-00032414-00032644 sundials marked with ten equal divisions 9-CEDHpdZII-00120-00032645-00032917 the morning and evening periods when the 9-CEDHpdZII-00121-00032918-00033082 Sun dials failed to note time were 9-CEDHpdZII-00122-00033083-00033298 observed as the first and last hours the 9-CEDHpdZII-00123-00033299-00033451 Egyptian hours were closely connected 9-CEDHpdZII-00124-00033452-00033676 both with the priesthood of the Gods and 9-CEDHpdZII-00125-00033677-00033915 with their divine services by the new 9-CEDHpdZII-00126-00033916-00034099 kingdom each hour was conceived as a 9-CEDHpdZII-00127-00034100-00034327 specific region of the sky or underworld 9-CEDHpdZII-00128-00034328-00034483 through which roz soul 9-CEDHpdZII-00129-00034484-00034714 travelled protective deities were 9-CEDHpdZII-00130-00034715-00034876 assigned to each and were used as the 9-CEDHpdZII-00131-00034877-00035152 names of the hours as the protectors and 9-CEDHpdZII-00132-00035153-00035347 resurrect errs of the Sun the goddesses 9-CEDHpdZII-00133-00035348-00035509 of the night hours were considered to 9-CEDHpdZII-00134-00035510-00035716 hold power over all lifespans and thus 9-CEDHpdZII-00135-00035717-00035949 became part of Egyptian funerary rituals 9-CEDHpdZII-00136-00035950-00036226 to fire spitting cobras were said to 9-CEDHpdZII-00137-00036227-00036364 guard the gates of each hour of the 9-CEDHpdZII-00138-00036365-00036547 underworld and wad jet and the rearing 9-CEDHpdZII-00139-00036548-00036649 cobra uraeus 9-CEDHpdZII-00140-00036650-00036931 were also sometimes referenced as wnw 9-CEDHpdZII-00141-00036932-00037105 tea from their role protecting the dead 9-CEDHpdZII-00142-00037106-00037348 through these gates the Egyptian four 9-CEDHpdZII-00143-00037349-00037564 astronomer used as a synonym for priest 9-CEDHpdZII-00144-00037565-00038104 was wnw ty1 of the hours or our watcher 9-CEDHpdZII-00145-00038105-00038506 the earliest forms of w NW t include one 9-CEDHpdZII-00146-00038507-00038689 or three stars with the later solar 9-CEDHpdZII-00147-00038690-00038851 hours including the determinative 9-CEDHpdZII-00148-00038852-00039494 hieroglyph for Sun 9-CEDHpdZII-00149-00039495-00040010 topic Eastasia 9-CEDHpdZII-00150-00040011-00040315 ancient China divided its day into 100 9-CEDHpdZII-00151-00040316-00040754 marks Chinese KOC asterisk KK pique 9-CEDHpdZII-00152-00040755-00040951 running from midnight to midnight the 9-CEDHpdZII-00153-00040952-00041177 system is said to have been used since 9-CEDHpdZII-00154-00041178-00041362 remote antiquity credited to the 9-CEDHpdZII-00155-00041363-00041558 legendary Yellow Emperor but as first 9-CEDHpdZII-00156-00041559-00041783 attested in Han era water clocks and in 9-CEDHpdZII-00157-00041784-00041948 the second century history of that 9-CEDHpdZII-00158-00041949-00042236 dynasty it was measured with Sun dials 9-CEDHpdZII-00159-00042237-00042470 and water clocks into the eastern Han 9-CEDHpdZII-00160-00042471-00042617 the Chinese measured their day 9-CEDHpdZII-00161-00042618-00042848 schematically adding the 20k difference 9-CEDHpdZII-00162-00042849-00043030 between the solstices evenly throughout 9-CEDHpdZII-00163-00043031-00043301 the year one every nine days during the 9-CEDHpdZII-00164-00043302-00043502 night time was more commonly reckoned 9-CEDHpdZII-00165-00043503-00043780 during the night by the watch's Chinese 9-CEDHpdZII-00166-00043781-00044086 Gengo see asterisk K P Jane of the guard 9-CEDHpdZII-00167-00044087-00044243 which were reckoned as a fifth of the 9-CEDHpdZII-00168-00044244-00044483 time from sunset to sunrise Imperial 9-CEDHpdZII-00169-00044484-00044708 China continued to use Kay and Jiang but 9-CEDHpdZII-00170-00044709-00044908 also began to divide the day into twelve 9-CEDHpdZII-00171-00044909-00045410 double hours T she s she OC asterisk D P 9-CEDHpdZII-00172-00045411-00045776 she lit time s named after the earthly 9-CEDHpdZII-00173-00045777-00045983 branches and sometimes also known by the 9-CEDHpdZII-00174-00045984-00046177 name of the corresponding animal of the 9-CEDHpdZII-00175-00046178-00046486 Chinese zodiac the first she originally 9-CEDHpdZII-00176-00046487-00046730 ran from 11 p.m. to 1 a.m. but was 9-CEDHpdZII-00177-00046731-00046895 reckoned as starting at midnight by the 9-CEDHpdZII-00178-00046896-00047099 time of the history of song compiled 9-CEDHpdZII-00179-00047100-00047354 during the early yuan these apparently 9-CEDHpdZII-00180-00047355-00047551 began to be used during the Eastern Han 9-CEDHpdZII-00181-00047552-00047768 that preceded the Three Kingdoms era but 9-CEDHpdZII-00182-00047769-00047905 the sections that would have covered 9-CEDHpdZII-00183-00047906-00048040 them are missing from their official 9-CEDHpdZII-00184-00048041-00048239 histories they first appear in official 9-CEDHpdZII-00185-00048240-00048462 use in the Tang era book of sway 9-CEDHpdZII-00186-00048463-00048668 variations of all these units were 9-CEDHpdZII-00187-00048669-00048889 subsequently adopted by Japan and the 9-CEDHpdZII-00188-00048890-00049154 other countries of the cinah spear the 9-CEDHpdZII-00189-00049155-00049399 12 she supposedly began to be divided 9-CEDHpdZII-00190-00049400-00049621 into 24 hours under the tang although 9-CEDHpdZII-00191-00049622-00049793 they are first attested in the Ming era 9-CEDHpdZII-00192-00049794-00050077 book of yuan in that work the hours were 9-CEDHpdZII-00193-00050078-00050264 known by the same earthly branches as 9-CEDHpdZII-00194-00050265-00050461 the XI with the first half noted as its 9-CEDHpdZII-00195-00050462-00050851 starting and the second s completed or 9-CEDHpdZII-00196-00050852-00051179 proper she in modern China 9-CEDHpdZII-00197-00051180-00051358 these are instead simply numbered and 9-CEDHpdZII-00198-00051359-00051715 described as little Shi the modern K is 9-CEDHpdZII-00199-00051716-00051907 now used to count quarter hours rather 9-CEDHpdZII-00200-00051908-00052165 than a separate unit as with the 9-CEDHpdZII-00201-00052166-00052363 Egyptian night in daytime hours the 9-CEDHpdZII-00202-00052364-00052565 division of the day into twelve she has 9-CEDHpdZII-00203-00052566-00052756 been credited to the example said by the 9-CEDHpdZII-00204-00052757-00052969 rough number of lunar cycles in a solar 9-CEDHpdZII-00205-00052970-00053155 year although the twelve year Jovian 9-CEDHpdZII-00206-00053156-00053336 orbital cycle was more important to 9-CEDHpdZII-00207-00053337-00053380 Trish 9-CEDHpdZII-00208-00053382-00053603 Chinese and Babylonian reckoning of the 9-CEDHpdZII-00209-00053604-00054132 zodiac 9-CEDHpdZII-00210-00054133-00054672 topic Southeast Asia 9-CEDHpdZII-00211-00054673-00054945 in Thailand Laos and Cambodia the 9-CEDHpdZII-00212-00054946-00055149 traditional system of noting hours as 9-CEDHpdZII-00213-00055150-00055419 the six hour clock this reckons each of 9-CEDHpdZII-00214-00055420-00055667 a day's 24 hours apart from noon as part 9-CEDHpdZII-00215-00055669-00055950 of a fourth of the day 7 a.m. was the 9-CEDHpdZII-00216-00055951-00056145 first hour of the first half of daytime 9-CEDHpdZII-00217-00056146-00056385 1 p.m. the first hour of the latter half 9-CEDHpdZII-00218-00056386-00056640 of daytime 7 p.m. the first hour of the 9-CEDHpdZII-00219-00056641-00056816 first half of nighttime and 1:00 a.m. 9-CEDHpdZII-00220-00056817-00056997 the first hour of the latter half of 9-CEDHpdZII-00221-00056998-00057291 nighttime this system existed in the IUD 9-CEDHpdZII-00222-00057291-00057459 yog kingdom deriving its current 9-CEDHpdZII-00223-00057460-00057645 phrasing from the practice of publicly 9-CEDHpdZII-00224-00057646-00057828 announcing the daytime hours with a gong 9-CEDHpdZII-00225-00057829-00058067 and the nighttime hours with a drum it 9-CEDHpdZII-00226-00058069-00058215 was abolished in Laos and Cambodia 9-CEDHpdZII-00227-00058216-00058452 during their French occupation and is 9-CEDHpdZII-00228-00058453-00058704 uncommon there now the Thai system 9-CEDHpdZII-00229-00058704-00058899 remains in informal use in the form 9-CEDHpdZII-00230-00058900-00059671 codified in 1901 by King Chulalongkorn 9-CEDHpdZII-00231-00059672-00060234 topic other ancient cultures 9-CEDHpdZII-00232-00060235-00060455 it is most well known as the day in the 9-CEDHpdZII-00233-00060457-00060624 hour of minutes as the ancient Egyptians 9-CEDHpdZII-00234-00060625-00060912 referred to it the Vedas and Puranas 9-CEDHpdZII-00235-00060913-00061146 employed units of time based on the 9-CEDHpdZII-00236-00061147-00061473 sidereal day NOx atre hora tram this was 9-CEDHpdZII-00237-00061474-00061695 variously divided into 30 moo-hoo trees 9-CEDHpdZII-00238-00061696-00061965 of 48 minutes each or 60 dandas are not 9-CEDHpdZII-00239-00061966-00062274 dese of 24 minutes each the solar day 9-CEDHpdZII-00240-00062275-00062504 was later similarly divided into 60 9-CEDHpdZII-00241-00062505-00062664 goddesses of about the same duration 9-CEDHpdZII-00242-00062665-00063003 each divided in turn into 60 venetus the 9-CEDHpdZII-00243-00063004-00063225 Sinhalese followed a similar system but 9-CEDHpdZII-00244-00063226-00063519 called their 60th of a daya pea the 9-CEDHpdZII-00245-00063520-00063720 ancient Greeks and Romans originally 9-CEDHpdZII-00246-00063721-00063921 divided the day into twelve hours in the 9-CEDHpdZII-00247-00063922-00064107 night into three or four night watches 9-CEDHpdZII-00248-00064108-00064350 they were notionally deified as the 9-CEDHpdZII-00249-00064351-00064533 horray although sometimes only as a 9-CEDHpdZII-00250-00064534-00064857 triad the Greek astronomer Andronicus of 9-CEDHpdZII-00251-00064858-00065079 cyrus oversaw the construction of ahora 9-CEDHpdZII-00252-00065079-00065271 lo jian called the tower of the winds in 9-CEDHpdZII-00253-00065272-00065574 Athens during the 1st century BC this 9-CEDHpdZII-00254-00065575-00065820 structure tracked a 24-hour day using 9-CEDHpdZII-00255-00065821-00065994 both Sun dials and mechanical our 9-CEDHpdZII-00256-00065995-00066297 indicators the night was eventually also 9-CEDHpdZII-00257-00066298-00066890 divided into 12 hours 9-CEDHpdZII-00258-00066891-00067400 topic Middle Ages 9-CEDHpdZII-00259-00067401-00067649 during Europe's Middle Ages the Roman 9-CEDHpdZII-00260-00067650-00067859 hours continued to be marked on sundials 9-CEDHpdZII-00261-00067860-00068033 but the more important units of time 9-CEDHpdZII-00262-00068034-00068237 were the canonical hours of the Orthodox 9-CEDHpdZII-00263-00068238-00068495 and Catholic Church during daylight 9-CEDHpdZII-00264-00068496-00068666 these followed the pattern said by the 9-CEDHpdZII-00265-00068667-00068858 three our bells of the Roman markets 9-CEDHpdZII-00266-00068859-00069029 which were succeeded by the bells of 9-CEDHpdZII-00267-00069030-00069296 local churches they rang Prime at about 9-CEDHpdZII-00268-00069297-00069566 6:00 a.m. terse at about 9:00 a.m. sexed 9-CEDHpdZII-00269-00069567-00069824 at noon nuns at about 3 p.m. and Vespers 9-CEDHpdZII-00270-00069825-00070021 at either 6 p.m. or sunset 9-CEDHpdZII-00271-00070022-00070235 Madden's and LODs proceeded these 9-CEDHpdZII-00272-00070236-00070457 irregularly in the morning hours complan 9-CEDHpdZII-00273-00070458-00070643 follows them irregularly before sleep 9-CEDHpdZII-00274-00070644-00070849 and the midnight office follows that 9-CEDHpdZII-00275-00070850-00071111 Vatican 2 ordered their Reformation for 9-CEDHpdZII-00276-00071112-00071369 the Catholic Church in 1963 though they 9-CEDHpdZII-00277-00071370-00071552 continue to be observed in the Orthodox 9-CEDHpdZII-00278-00071553-00071894 churches when mechanical clocks began to 9-CEDHpdZII-00279-00071895-00072068 be used to show hours of daylight or 9-CEDHpdZII-00280-00072069-00072242 night time their period needed to be 9-CEDHpdZII-00281-00072243-00072425 changed every morning and evening for 9-CEDHpdZII-00282-00072426-00072608 example by changing the length of their 9-CEDHpdZII-00283-00072609-00072902 pendulum the use of 24 hours for the 9-CEDHpdZII-00284-00072903-00073115 entire day meant hours varied much less 9-CEDHpdZII-00285-00073116-00073247 and the clocks needed to be adjusted 9-CEDHpdZII-00286-00073248-00073891 only a few times a month 9-CEDHpdZII-00287-00073892-00074382 topic modernity 9-CEDHpdZII-00288-00074383-00074634 the minor irregularities of the apparent 9-CEDHpdZII-00289-00074635-00074799 solar day were smoothed by measuring 9-CEDHpdZII-00290-00074800-00075021 time using the mean solar day using the 9-CEDHpdZII-00291-00075022-00075176 sun's movement along the celestial 9-CEDHpdZII-00292-00075177-00075338 equator rather than along the ecliptic 9-CEDHpdZII-00293-00075339-00075648 the irregularities of this time system 9-CEDHpdZII-00294-00075649-00075855 were so minor that most clocks reckoning 9-CEDHpdZII-00295-00075856-00076053 such hours did not need adjustment 9-CEDHpdZII-00296-00076054-00076296 however scientific measurements 9-CEDHpdZII-00297-00076297-00076497 eventually became precise enough to note 9-CEDHpdZII-00298-00076498-00076704 the effect of tidal deceleration of the 9-CEDHpdZII-00299-00076705-00076842 earth by the moon which gradually 9-CEDHpdZII-00300-00076843-00077130 lengthens the Earth's days during the 9-CEDHpdZII-00301-00077131-00077300 French Revolution a general 9-CEDHpdZII-00302-00077301-00077517 decimalisation of measures was enacted 9-CEDHpdZII-00303-00077518-00077801 including decimal time between 1793 and 9-CEDHpdZII-00304-00077802-00077932 1794 9-CEDHpdZII-00305-00077933-00078182 under its provisions the French our 9-CEDHpdZII-00306-00078183-00078435 French was one tenth of the day and 9-CEDHpdZII-00307-00078436-00078654 divided formally into 100 decimal 9-CEDHpdZII-00308-00078655-00078806 minutes minute day Camille and 9-CEDHpdZII-00309-00078807-00079100 informally into ten tenths day seem this 9-CEDHpdZII-00310-00079101-00079317 hour was only briefly an official use 9-CEDHpdZII-00311-00079318-00079563 being repealed by the same 1795 9-CEDHpdZII-00312-00079564-00079775 legislation that first established the 9-CEDHpdZII-00313-00079776-00080085 metric system the metric system bases 9-CEDHpdZII-00314-00080086-00080282 its measurements of time upon the second 9-CEDHpdZII-00315-00080283-00080544 defined since 1952 in terms of the 9-CEDHpdZII-00316-00080545-00080886 Earth's rotation in AD 1900 its hours 9-CEDHpdZII-00317-00080887-00081072 are a secondary unit computed as 9-CEDHpdZII-00318-00081073-00081488 precisely 3600 seconds however an hour 9-CEDHpdZII-00319-00081489-00081794 of coordinated Universal Time UTC used 9-CEDHpdZII-00320-00081795-00082005 as the basis of most civil time has 9-CEDHpdZII-00321-00082006-00082494 lasted 3601 seconds 27 times since 1972 9-CEDHpdZII-00322-00082495-00082797 in order to keep it within 0.9 seconds 9-CEDHpdZII-00323-00082798-00082986 of universal time which is based on 9-CEDHpdZII-00324-00082987-00083184 measurements of the mean solar day at 0 9-CEDHpdZII-00325-00083185-00083444 degrees longitude the addition of these 9-CEDHpdZII-00326-00083445-00083655 seconds accommodates the very gradual 9-CEDHpdZII-00327-00083656-00083879 slowing of the rotation of the earth in 9-CEDHpdZII-00328-00083880-00084156 modern life the ubiquity of clocks and 9-CEDHpdZII-00329-00084157-00084348 other timekeeping devices means that 9-CEDHpdZII-00330-00084349-00084540 segmentation of days according to their 9-CEDHpdZII-00331-00084541-00084806 hours is commonplace most forms of 9-CEDHpdZII-00332-00084807-00084996 employment weather wage or salaried 9-CEDHpdZII-00333-00084997-00085232 labor involves compensation based upon 9-CEDHpdZII-00334-00085233-00085506 measured or expected hours worked the 9-CEDHpdZII-00335-00085507-00085688 fight for an eight-hour day was a part 9-CEDHpdZII-00336-00085689-00085886 of labor movements around the world in 9-CEDHpdZII-00337-00085887-00086168 formal rush hours and happy hours cover 9-CEDHpdZII-00338-00086169-00086363 the times of day when commuting slows 9-CEDHpdZII-00339-00086364-00086582 down due to congestion or alcoholic 9-CEDHpdZII-00340-00086583-00086756 drinks are available at discounted 9-CEDHpdZII-00341-00086757-00087003 prices the hour record for the greatest 9-CEDHpdZII-00342-00087004-00087234 distance travelled by a cyclist within 9-CEDHpdZII-00343-00087235-00087417 the span of an hour as one of cycling's 9-CEDHpdZII-00344-00087418-00087663 greatest honors 9-CEDHpdZII-00345-00087664-00088013 you 9-CEDHpdZII-00346-00088014-00088551 topic counting hours 9-CEDHpdZII-00347-00088552-00088758 many different ways of counting the 9-CEDHpdZII-00348-00088759-00088986 hours have been used because sunrise 9-CEDHpdZII-00349-00088987-00089262 sunset and to a lesser extent noon are 9-CEDHpdZII-00350-00089263-00089427 the conspicuous points in the day 9-CEDHpdZII-00351-00089428-00089631 starting to count at these times was for 9-CEDHpdZII-00352-00089632-00089853 most people in most early societies much 9-CEDHpdZII-00353-00089854-00090023 easier than starting at midnight 9-CEDHpdZII-00354-00090024-00090303 however with accurate clocks and modern 9-CEDHpdZII-00355-00090304-00090501 astronomical equipment and the Telegraph 9-CEDHpdZII-00356-00090502-00090723 or similar means to transfer a time 9-CEDHpdZII-00357-00090724-00090942 signal in a split second this issue is 9-CEDHpdZII-00358-00090943-00091287 much less relevant astrolabes Sun dials 9-CEDHpdZII-00359-00091288-00091509 and astronomical clocks sometimes show 9-CEDHpdZII-00360-00091510-00091680 the outer length and count using some of 9-CEDHpdZII-00361-00091681-00091854 these older definitions and counting 9-CEDHpdZII-00362-00091855-00092376 methods 9-CEDHpdZII-00363-00092377-00092905 topic counting from dawn 9-CEDHpdZII-00364-00092906-00093139 in ancient and medieval cultures the 9-CEDHpdZII-00365-00093140-00093325 counting of hours generally started with 9-CEDHpdZII-00366-00093326-00093595 sunrise before the widespread use of 9-CEDHpdZII-00367-00093596-00093811 artificial light societies were more 9-CEDHpdZII-00368-00093812-00093949 concerned with the division between 9-CEDHpdZII-00369-00093950-00094192 night and day and daily routines often 9-CEDHpdZII-00370-00094193-00094353 began when light was sufficient 9-CEDHpdZII-00371-00094354-00094681 Babylonian hours as used on modern Sun 9-CEDHpdZII-00372-00094682-00094921 dials divide the day and night into 24 9-CEDHpdZII-00373-00094922-00095104 equal hours reckoned from the time of 9-CEDHpdZII-00374-00095105-00095368 sunrise they are so named from the false 9-CEDHpdZII-00375-00095369-00095542 belief of ancient authors that the 9-CEDHpdZII-00376-00095543-00095779 Babylonians divided the day into 24 9-CEDHpdZII-00377-00095780-00095836 parts 9-CEDHpdZII-00378-00095837-00096097 beginning at sunrise in fact they 9-CEDHpdZII-00379-00096098-00096304 divided the day into twelve parts called 9-CEDHpdZII-00380-00096305-00096640 cusp you or double hours or into 60 9-CEDHpdZII-00381-00096641-00097136 equal parts 9-CEDHpdZII-00382-00097137-00097796 topic unequal hours sunrise marked the 9-CEDHpdZII-00383-00097797-00097976 beginning of the first hour the middle 9-CEDHpdZII-00384-00097977-00098144 of the day was at the end of the sixth 9-CEDHpdZII-00385-00098145-00098309 hour and sunset at the end of the 9-CEDHpdZII-00386-00098310-00098516 twelfth hour this meant that the 9-CEDHpdZII-00387-00098517-00098717 duration of hours varied with the season 9-CEDHpdZII-00388-00098718-00098960 in the northern hemisphere particularly 9-CEDHpdZII-00389-00098961-00099149 in the more northerly latitudes summer 9-CEDHpdZII-00390-00099150-00099335 daytime hours were longer than winter 9-CEDHpdZII-00391-00099336-00099548 daytime hours each being 1/12 of the 9-CEDHpdZII-00392-00099549-00099827 time between sunrise and sunset these 9-CEDHpdZII-00393-00099828-00100031 variable length hours were variously 9-CEDHpdZII-00394-00100032-00100268 known as temporal unequal or seasonal 9-CEDHpdZII-00395-00100269-00100427 hours and were in use until the 9-CEDHpdZII-00396-00100428-00100619 appearance of the mechanical clock which 9-CEDHpdZII-00397-00100620-00100790 furthered the adoption of equal length 9-CEDHpdZII-00398-00100791-00101006 hours this is also the system used in 9-CEDHpdZII-00399-00101007-00101174 Jewish law and frequently called 9-CEDHpdZII-00400-00101175-00101492 Talmudic our Shah has a MANET in a 9-CEDHpdZII-00401-00101493-00101762 variety of texts the Talmudic hour is 9-CEDHpdZII-00402-00101763-00102008 1/12 of time elapsed from sunrise to 9-CEDHpdZII-00403-00102009-00102242 sunset day hours therefore being longer 9-CEDHpdZII-00404-00102243-00102431 than night hours in the summer in winter 9-CEDHpdZII-00405-00102432-00102719 they reverse the indict day began at 9-CEDHpdZII-00406-00102720-00102956 sunrise the term hora was used to 9-CEDHpdZII-00407-00102957-00103181 indicate an hour the time was measured 9-CEDHpdZII-00408-00103182-00103352 based on the length of the shadow at day 9-CEDHpdZII-00409-00103353-00103759 time a hora translated to 2.5 pay there 9-CEDHpdZII-00410-00103760-00104027 are 60 pay per day 60 minutes per pay 9-CEDHpdZII-00411-00104028-00104288 and 60 K Shana snap of a finger or 9-CEDHpdZII-00412-00104289-00104536 instant per minute pay was measured with 9-CEDHpdZII-00413-00104538-00104758 a bowl with a hole placed in Stillwater 9-CEDHpdZII-00414-00104758-00105077 time taken for this graduated Bowl was 1 9-CEDHpdZII-00415-00105078-00105341 pay Kings usually had an officer in 9-CEDHpdZII-00416-00105342-00105883 charge of this clock 9-CEDHpdZII-00417-00105884-00106425 topic counting from sunset 9-CEDHpdZII-00418-00106426-00106857 in so-called Italian time Italian hours 9-CEDHpdZII-00419-00106858-00107268 or old Czech time the first hour started 9-CEDHpdZII-00420-00107269-00107478 with the sunset Angelus Bell or at the 9-CEDHpdZII-00421-00107479-00107727 end of dusk ie half an hour after sunset 9-CEDHpdZII-00422-00107728-00107919 depending on local custom and 9-CEDHpdZII-00423-00107920-00108174 geographical latitude the hours were 9-CEDHpdZII-00424-00108175-00108465 numbered from 1 to 24 for example in 9-CEDHpdZII-00425-00108466-00108686 Lugano the Sun rose in December during 9-CEDHpdZII-00426-00108688-00108894 the 14th hour and noon was during the 9-CEDHpdZII-00427-00108895-00109122 19th hour in June the Sun rose during 9-CEDHpdZII-00428-00109123-00109340 the seventh hour in noon was in the 15th 9-CEDHpdZII-00429-00109341-00109640 hour sunset was always at the end of the 9-CEDHpdZII-00430-00109641-00109916 24th hour the clocks in church towers 9-CEDHpdZII-00431-00109917-00110127 struck only from 1 to 12 thus only 9-CEDHpdZII-00432-00110128-00110439 during night or early morning hours this 9-CEDHpdZII-00433-00110440-00110601 manner of counting hours had the 9-CEDHpdZII-00434-00110602-00110757 advantage that everyone could easily 9-CEDHpdZII-00435-00110758-00110928 know how much time they had to finish 9-CEDHpdZII-00436-00110929-00111081 their day's work without artificial 9-CEDHpdZII-00437-00111082-00111365 light it was already widely used in 9-CEDHpdZII-00438-00111366-00111578 Italy by the 14th century and lasted 9-CEDHpdZII-00439-00111579-00111803 until the mid 18th century it was 9-CEDHpdZII-00440-00111804-00112119 officially abolished in 1755 or in some 9-CEDHpdZII-00441-00112120-00112338 regions customary until the mid 19th 9-CEDHpdZII-00442-00112339-00112575 century the system of Italian hours can 9-CEDHpdZII-00443-00112576-00112764 be seen on a number of clocks in Europe 9-CEDHpdZII-00444-00112765-00112998 where the dial is numbered from 1 to 24 9-CEDHpdZII-00445-00112999-00113274 in either Roman or Arabic numerals the 9-CEDHpdZII-00446-00113275-00113490 st. Mark's clock in Venice and the Orloj 9-CEDHpdZII-00447-00113491-00113778 in Prague are famous examples it was 9-CEDHpdZII-00448-00113779-00114021 also used in Poland in Bohemia until the 9-CEDHpdZII-00449-00114022-00114393 17th century the Islamic day begins at 9-CEDHpdZII-00450-00114394-00114606 sunset the first prayer of the day 9-CEDHpdZII-00451-00114607-00114840 Maghrib is to be performed between just 9-CEDHpdZII-00452-00114841-00115040 after sunset and the end of twilight 9-CEDHpdZII-00453-00115041-00115403 until 1968 Saudi Arabia used the system 9-CEDHpdZII-00454-00115404-00115632 of counting 24 equal hours with the 9-CEDHpdZII-00455-00115633-00116270 first hours starting at sunset 9-CEDHpdZII-00456-00116271-00116873 topic counting from noon for many 9-CEDHpdZII-00457-00116874-00117203 centuries up to 1925 astronomers counted 9-CEDHpdZII-00458-00117204-00117395 the hours and days from noon because it 9-CEDHpdZII-00459-00117396-00117569 was the easiest solar event to measure 9-CEDHpdZII-00460-00117570-00117830 accurately an advantage of this method 9-CEDHpdZII-00461-00117831-00118060 used in the Julian date system in which 9-CEDHpdZII-00462-00118061-00118295 a new Julian day begins at noon is that 9-CEDHpdZII-00463-00118296-00118459 the date doesn't change during a single 9-CEDHpdZII-00464-00118460-00119022 night's observing 9-CEDHpdZII-00465-00119023-00119561 topic counting from midnight 9-CEDHpdZII-00466-00119563-00119816 in the modern 12-hour clock counting the 9-CEDHpdZII-00467-00119817-00120024 hours starts at midnight and restarts at 9-CEDHpdZII-00468-00120025-00120588 noon hours are numbered 12 1 to 11 solar 9-CEDHpdZII-00469-00120589-00120852 noon is always close to 12 noon ignoring 9-CEDHpdZII-00470-00120853-00121077 artificial adjustments due to time zones 9-CEDHpdZII-00471-00121078-00121259 and daylight saving time differing 9-CEDHpdZII-00472-00121260-00121446 according to the equation of time by as 9-CEDHpdZII-00473-00121447-00121731 much as 15 minutes either way at the 9-CEDHpdZII-00474-00121732-00122015 equinoxes Sun rises around 6 a.m. Latin 9-CEDHpdZII-00475-00122016-00122228 ante meridiem before noon and sunset 9-CEDHpdZII-00476-00122229-00122538 around 6 p.m. Latin post meridiem after 9-CEDHpdZII-00477-00122539-00122844 noon in the modern 24-hour clock 9-CEDHpdZII-00478-00122845-00123027 counting the hours starts at midnight 9-CEDHpdZII-00479-00123028-00123277 and hours are numbered from 0 to 23 9-CEDHpdZII-00480-00123278-00123560 solar noon is always close to 12 o'clock 9-CEDHpdZII-00481-00123561-00123726 again differing according to the 9-CEDHpdZII-00482-00123727-00124023 equation of time at the equinoxes Sun 9-CEDHpdZII-00483-00124024-00124277 rises around 6 o'clock and sunset around 9-CEDHpdZII-00484-00124278-00124863 1800 9-CEDHpdZII-00485-00124864-00125432 topic derived measures 9-CEDHpdZII-00486-00125433-00125738 air changes per hour ACH a measure of 9-CEDHpdZII-00487-00125739-00125927 the replacements of air within a defined 9-CEDHpdZII-00488-00125928-00126210 space used for indoor air quality 9-CEDHpdZII-00489-00126211-00126326 ampere-hour 9-CEDHpdZII-00490-00126327-00126554 ah a measure of electrical charge used 9-CEDHpdZII-00491-00126555-00126926 in electrochemistry BTU hour a measure 9-CEDHpdZII-00492-00126927-00127154 of power used in the power industry and 9-CEDHpdZII-00493-00127155-00127445 for air conditioners and heaters credit 9-CEDHpdZII-00494-00127446-00127649 hour a measure of an academic courses 9-CEDHpdZII-00495-00127650-00127861 contracted instructional time per week 9-CEDHpdZII-00496-00127863-00128236 for a semester horsepower our hph a 9-CEDHpdZII-00497-00128238-00128429 measure of energy used in the railroad 9-CEDHpdZII-00498-00128430-00128729 industry our angle a measure of the 9-CEDHpdZII-00499-00128730-00128933 angle between the meridian plane and the 9-CEDHpdZII-00500-00128933-00129113 our circle passing through a certain 9-CEDHpdZII-00501-00129114-00129323 point used in the equatorial coordinate 9-CEDHpdZII-00502-00129324-00129569 system kilometre per hour 9-CEDHpdZII-00503-00129570-00129776 kilometre per hour a measure of land 9-CEDHpdZII-00504-00129777-00130172 speed kilowatt hour kwh a measure of 9-CEDHpdZII-00505-00130173-00130397 energy commonly used as an electrical 9-CEDHpdZII-00506-00130398-00130700 billing unit not KN a measure of 9-CEDHpdZII-00507-00130701-00130901 nautical miles per hour used for 9-CEDHpdZII-00508-00130902-00131213 maritime and aerial speed men hour an 9-CEDHpdZII-00509-00131214-00131411 averaged amount of work performed per 9-CEDHpdZII-00510-00131412-00131600 person per hour used in productivity 9-CEDHpdZII-00511-00131601-00131966 analysis meter per hour meter per hour a 9-CEDHpdZII-00512-00131967-00132350 measure of slow speeds mile per hour mph 9-CEDHpdZII-00513-00132351-00132686 a measure of land speed passengers per 9-CEDHpdZII-00514-00132687-00132989 hour per direction PhD a measure of the 9-CEDHpdZII-00515-00132990-00133190 capacity of public transportation 9-CEDHpdZII-00516-00133191-00133421 systems pound per hour 9-CEDHpdZII-00517-00133422-00133688 P pH a measure of mass flow used for 9-CEDHpdZII-00518-00133689-00134018 engines fuel flow work or working hour a 9-CEDHpdZII-00519-00134019-00134228 measure of working time used in various 9-CEDHpdZII-00520-00134229-00134447 regulations such as those distinguishing 9-CEDHpdZII-00521-00134448-00134636 part and full-time employment and those 9-CEDHpdZII-00522-00134637-00134840 limiting truck drivers working hours or 9-CEDHpdZII-00523-00134841-00135167 hours of service topic see also her 9-CEDHpdZII-00524-00135168-00135380 ology horray the deified hours of 9-CEDHpdZII-00525-00135381-00135590 ancient Greece and Rome hexadecimal hour 9-CEDHpdZII-00526-00135591-00135881 a proposed unit lasting 1h 30 minutes 9-CEDHpdZII-00527-00135882-00136091 decimal hour or decide a a French 9-CEDHpdZII-00528-00136092-00136367 revolutionary unit lasting 2 H 24 9-CEDHpdZII-00529-00136368-00136568 minutes golden hour and blue hour in 9-CEDHpdZII-00530-00136569-00136775 photography metric time equals equals 9-CEDHpdZII-00531-00136776-00137009 notes 9_4aNrGmZAo-00001-00012562-00012720 [Applause] 9_4aNrGmZAo-00002-00012721-00014852 [Music] 9_4aNrGmZAo-00003-00014853-00017639 [Music] 9_4aNrGmZAo-00004-00017640-00017923 do 9_4aNrGmZAo-00006-00024472-00024679 you 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00000-00000024-00000359 girl cares away Christmas is here 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00001-00000360-00000653 bringing good cheer two young and old 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00002-00000654-00000975 Meek in the whole day 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00003-00000976-00003179 [Music] 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00004-00003180-00003347 loaded pistol it's just what I need 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00005-00003347-00003581 shooting at her right away is useless 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00006-00003582-00003820 she's too fast even the police couldn't 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00007-00003821-00004601 hit her first I need to okay 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00008-00004602-00005435 how are you what's going on 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00009-00005436-00005729 I found a I found a dead police ie 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00010-00005730-00006095 it's good that you feel optimistic just 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00011-00006096-00006281 be careful 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00012-00006282-00006670 yeah you decide to shoot it will be loud 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00013-00006672-00007019 be prepared that she will hear and will 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00014-00007020-00007583 come for you okay 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00015-00007584-00007853 yeah 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00016-00007854-00008614 um yeah 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00017-00008615-00008914 I know it's silly but I 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00018-00008915-00009196 I need to be sure 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00019-00009197-00009467 who I think it is 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00020-00009468-00010571 in case we don't okay 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00021-00010572-00010774 I don't know what to say 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00022-00010775-00011273 I'll be honest with her 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00023-00011274-00011831 okay she's happy 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00024-00011832-00012131 don't you even dare think about giving 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00025-00012132-00012773 up oh we're not giving up 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00026-00012774-00013913 and that cop is [__] up 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00027-00013913-00014057 I thought I saw something over here but 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00028-00014058-00014236 I guess I didn't 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00029-00014237-00014758 don't do it 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00030-00014759-00015365 why did I do that 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00031-00015366-00015557 all right [__] 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00032-00015558-00017513 foreign 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00033-00017514-00019871 [__] 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00034-00019872-00020363 she don't like them 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00035-00020364-00020621 she's not a fan of the uh fireworks 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00036-00020622-00021280 apparently 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00037-00021281-00022169 it's gonna lock 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00038-00022170-00022571 so sweetie come here 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00039-00022572-00022864 oh God okay 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00040-00022865-00023027 I don't like that it gets dark when I do 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00041-00023028-00025403 this 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00042-00025404-00025720 no more hiding [__] 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00043-00025722-00026411 I'm done hiding 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00044-00026412-00026933 I'm so bloody pissed off 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00045-00026933-00027779 foreign 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00046-00027780-00028283 what's this it's the ring 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00047-00028283-00028535 she's she's obsessed with the ring if I 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00048-00028536-00028720 put it into the tree definitely get her 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00049-00028722-00028877 attention I can't avoid it to her 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00050-00028877-00029170 anymore we need to end this she was 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00051-00029172-00029399 obsessed with chasing and I was obsessed 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00052-00029400-00029579 with running away 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00053-00029580-00029908 now it's over for both of us 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00054-00029910-00030214 ominous 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00055-00030216-00030539 all right guys 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00056-00030539-00030820 here we go 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00057-00030822-00031199 it's gonna be oh 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00058-00031200-00031702 Mark I heard gunshots are you okay 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00059-00031704-00031840 I think I scared away at least for now 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00060-00031841-00032014 I'm fine 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00061-00032016-00032170 I think I figured out a way to stop her 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00062-00032172-00032987 do you know how to stop her tell me 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00063-00032988-00033502 she wants to catch me 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00064-00033503-00033743 did you find my present 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00065-00033744-00033911 good 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00066-00033912-00034067 you know she stole my Christmas 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00067-00034068-00034277 decorations for a reason 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00068-00034278-00034439 it looks like she's obsessed with 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00069-00034440-00034745 spending Christmas with you maybe if you 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00070-00034746-00034912 put a present by the Christmas tree it 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00071-00034913-00035105 will distract her that's the idea don't 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00072-00035106-00035290 forget to put the fireworks everywhere 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00073-00035291-00035440 first 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00074-00035441-00036196 and Mark 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00075-00036197-00036496 so fireworks first then thanks for 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00076-00036497-00037018 telling me lady 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00077-00037019-00038596 come on 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00078-00038597-00039557 come on foreign 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00079-00039558-00040805 God that music is Eerie as [__] 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00080-00040806-00041639 and of course it's Christmas music so 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00081-00041640-00041824 fireworks well I'm supposed to put 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00082-00041825-00041968 fireworks places where am I putting 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00083-00041969-00042940 fireworks I don't get it 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00084-00042941-00043937 oh man that music is horrifying 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00085-00043938-00044658 all right let's see if this works 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00086-00044659-00045208 he chose me yeah go go go play with it 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00087-00045209-00046162 I'm gonna shoot in your [__] face 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00088-00046163-00046612 honey I'm waiting for you are you though 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00089-00046613-00047027 you're gonna sing yes I'm saying you're 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00090-00047028-00047161 gonna die 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00091-00047162-00047645 we will be together in hell 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00092-00047646-00047855 where are you where are you dear behind 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00093-00047856-00048305 you [__] 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00094-00048306-00049421 can I shoot you 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00095-00049422-00049774 where you at ho 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00096-00049775-00050543 blah blah 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00097-00050544-00050723 I'm Coming For You The Hunters become 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00098-00050724-00051652 The Hunted 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00099-00051653-00052576 nope nope nope nope nope okay run 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00100-00052577-00052804 run [__] 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00101-00052805-00053820 I see it 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00102-00053821-00054682 [Applause] 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00103-00054683-00054935 which way is she coming 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00104-00054936-00055576 music's [__] awesome right now 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00105-00055577-00056182 I see you 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00106-00056183-00056338 where where is it where is it where is 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00107-00056339-00056776 it I saw it earlier 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00108-00056777-00058611 there it is 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00109-00058612-00058979 [Applause] 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00110-00058979-00059152 oh it disappeared 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00111-00059153-00059291 [Music] 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00112-00059291-00059692 found it though come at me how 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00113-00059694-00059936 foreign 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00114-00059937-00060311 [Applause] 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00115-00060312-00060623 [__] 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00116-00060624-00061126 back to Hell Satan 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00117-00061127-00061697 back to hell 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00118-00061698-00062554 about this again okay will she say yes 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00119-00062555-00062776 she wasn't ugly 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00120-00062777-00063016 the doors are open Mark the doors are 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00121-00063017-00063347 open you did it 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00122-00063348-00063869 much if I can teabag you I would 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00123-00063870-00064313 say that but will I like really 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00124-00064314-00064492 damn I shot her right through her face 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00125-00064494-00064673 and her titty 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00126-00064674-00064816 okay well 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00127-00064817-00065423 rest in peace [__] 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00128-00065424-00065663 okay where's the door 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00129-00065664-00065926 I'm lost in the house that's the problem 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00130-00065927-00066676 there it is 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00131-00066677-00066982 now [__] that house I am free 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00132-00066983-00067115 free 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00133-00067116-00067300 free 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00134-00067301-00068267 huh oh 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00135-00068268-00069341 damn how did I get all the way down here 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00136-00069342-00069859 I'm coming 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00137-00069860-00070859 gets hit by a car 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00138-00070860-00071093 yeah 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00139-00071094-00071275 my answer is yes 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00140-00071276-00071656 oh happy ending I got the happy ending I 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00141-00071657-00072094 guess 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00142-00072095-00072394 Ding fries are done Ding fries are done 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00143-00072395-00072755 Ding fries are done 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00144-00072756-00074020 yeah totally a good game 9A0J3ghd1Lo-00145-00074021-00075042 [Music] 9BgOfz9MHd8-00000-00000011-00000284 everyone please welcome to the stage 9BgOfz9MHd8-00001-00000285-00000499 Maria's Safari Wikimedia Foundation 9BgOfz9MHd8-00002-00000500-00002264 Board Chair annual Wikimania I should 9BgOfz9MHd8-00003-00002265-00003029 also say welcome to Sweden this is the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00004-00003030-00003233 first time that Wikimania has been 9BgOfz9MHd8-00005-00003234-00003494 hosted in the Nordics we have more than 9BgOfz9MHd8-00006-00003495-00003890 800 wiki medians in Stockholm from over 9BgOfz9MHd8-00007-00003890-00004154 80 countries here to celebrate free 9BgOfz9MHd8-00008-00004155-00004352 knowledge and what we have achieved 9BgOfz9MHd8-00009-00004353-00004681 together the theme of this year's 9BgOfz9MHd8-00010-00004682-00004910 conference is stronger together 9BgOfz9MHd8-00011-00004911-00005192 Wikimedia free knowledge and the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00012-00005193-00005470 sustainable development goals it's 9BgOfz9MHd8-00013-00005471-00005747 appropriate that we are in Sweden known 9BgOfz9MHd8-00014-00005748-00005951 for its focus on sustainability and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00015-00005952-00006293 gender equality this weekend is an 9BgOfz9MHd8-00016-00006294-00006517 opportunity to talk about the UN as the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00017-00006518-00006767 years and the road that we as we 9BgOfz9MHd8-00018-00006768-00007045 comedians complain addressing some of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00019-00007047-00007403 these urgent issues these are issues 9BgOfz9MHd8-00020-00007404-00007678 that are highly relevant to all of our 9BgOfz9MHd8-00021-00007679-00007969 lives from education to gender diversity 9BgOfz9MHd8-00022-00007970-00008288 to environmental sustainability to name 9BgOfz9MHd8-00023-00008289-00008633 but to name just but a few this weekend 9BgOfz9MHd8-00024-00008634-00008842 is a chance to dive deeper into this 9BgOfz9MHd8-00025-00008843-00009083 disease and think about how they overlap 9BgOfz9MHd8-00026-00009084-00009476 with your work and free knowledge it is 9BgOfz9MHd8-00027-00009477-00009667 a critical time to be thinking about the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00028-00009668-00009944 broader impact of our work this event 9BgOfz9MHd8-00029-00009945-00010246 this event marks the next stage in our 9BgOfz9MHd8-00030-00010247-00010546 movement strategy process an incredibly 9BgOfz9MHd8-00031-00010547-00010831 diverse collaborative process that we 9BgOfz9MHd8-00032-00010832-00011156 have the earth with undertaken over the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00033-00011157-00011444 past two years to figure out the future 9BgOfz9MHd8-00034-00011445-00011726 of our movement with medians new and old 9BgOfz9MHd8-00035-00011727-00012005 across borders and hundreds of languages 9BgOfz9MHd8-00036-00012006-00012301 have participated in this unprecedented 9BgOfz9MHd8-00037-00012302-00012653 process to think about what we want what 9BgOfz9MHd8-00038-00012654-00012980 we want to be in 2030 this weekend 9BgOfz9MHd8-00039-00012981-00013151 you'll hear more and we 9BgOfz9MHd8-00040-00013152-00013372 to sell your thoughts and ideas on the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00041-00013374-00013619 recommendations as we move forward the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00042-00013619-00013937 implementation and change I want to take 9BgOfz9MHd8-00043-00013938-00014159 a moment to thank with media Sweden for 9BgOfz9MHd8-00044-00014160-00014393 all of their work organizing the event 9BgOfz9MHd8-00045-00014394-00015391 and this weekend for all of this year's 9BgOfz9MHd8-00046-00015393-00015650 agenda includes the most community led 9BgOfz9MHd8-00047-00015651-00015899 programs of any Wikimania we have ever 9BgOfz9MHd8-00048-00015900-00016205 held this we can include sessions that 9BgOfz9MHd8-00049-00016206-00016538 you have told us you want to hear with 9BgOfz9MHd8-00050-00016539-00016754 the spaces and topics created and led by 9BgOfz9MHd8-00051-00016755-00016997 community leaders this is your 9BgOfz9MHd8-00052-00016998-00017249 conference that means that whether this 9BgOfz9MHd8-00053-00017250-00017381 is your first Wikimania 9BgOfz9MHd8-00054-00017382-00017624 or your tenth Wikimania there will be 9BgOfz9MHd8-00055-00017625-00017900 something for you in our three days of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00056-00017901-00018266 sessions I also want to thank all of the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00057-00018267-00018470 partners and sponsors that have made 9BgOfz9MHd8-00058-00018471-00018743 this event possible and to talk a little 9BgOfz9MHd8-00059-00018744-00018989 bit more about Wikimedia Sweden and of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00060-00018990-00019283 all the work behind the scenes it is my 9BgOfz9MHd8-00061-00019284-00019541 pleasure to introduce John Anderson the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00062-00019542-00019751 executive director of Wikimedia Sweden 9BgOfz9MHd8-00063-00019752-00019889 thank you very much 9BgOfz9MHd8-00064-00019890-00020663 [Applause] 9BgOfz9MHd8-00065-00020664-00021594 hi everybody and welcome to Stockholm 13 9BgOfz9MHd8-00066-00021595-00021735 years ago I got involved in the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00067-00021736-00021927 Wikimedia movement as an editor on the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00068-00021928-00022050 Swedish language version of the coop 9BgOfz9MHd8-00069-00022051-00022293 idea at that time I was a student in 9BgOfz9MHd8-00070-00022294-00022491 university and I wanted to make a 9BgOfz9MHd8-00071-00022492-00022550 difference 9BgOfz9MHd8-00072-00022551-00022769 I thought Wikipedia looked pretty cool 9BgOfz9MHd8-00073-00022770-00023016 and figured perhaps I could add parts of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00074-00023017-00023180 the University assignment set of us 9BgOfz9MHd8-00075-00023181-00023389 writing onto the articles on Wikipedia 9BgOfz9MHd8-00076-00023390-00023988 so I started doing at that time I was 9BgOfz9MHd8-00077-00023989-00024128 studying Peace and Conflict Studies and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00078-00024129-00024330 I quickly realized there was a lot of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00079-00024331-00024525 information missing about different 9BgOfz9MHd8-00080-00024526-00024650 cultures and different countries in the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00081-00024651-00024969 world so I continued editing after a 9BgOfz9MHd8-00082-00024970-00025097 while I became an administrator on 9BgOfz9MHd8-00083-00025098-00025443 Wikipedia and I spent countless hours on 9BgOfz9MHd8-00084-00025444-00025721 improving it trying to contribute in my 9BgOfz9MHd8-00085-00025722-00026000 little way from this group something 9BgOfz9MHd8-00086-00026001-00026168 that has been common meaningful and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00087-00026169-00026451 major part of my life what I came to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00088-00026452-00026627 realize after writing on the computer 9BgOfz9MHd8-00089-00026628-00026817 for a while was that Wikipedia was 9BgOfz9MHd8-00090-00026818-00027108 really at the top of the iceberg behind 9BgOfz9MHd8-00091-00027108-00027261 this online is kathiria was an entire 9BgOfz9MHd8-00092-00027262-00027464 movement a community of volunteers and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00093-00027466-00027705 staff there are extremely dedicated on 9BgOfz9MHd8-00094-00027706-00028055 bringing free knowledge to the world 9BgOfz9MHd8-00095-00028056-00028260 what I came to learn about was the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00096-00028261-00028482 Wikimedia movement this movement of free 9BgOfz9MHd8-00097-00028483-00028686 knowledge lovers they work on of course 9BgOfz9MHd8-00098-00028687-00028881 writing Wikipedia articles but they also 9BgOfz9MHd8-00099-00028882-00029079 take photos and videos of the world to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00100-00029080-00029373 illustrate it since 2012 they'll be 9BgOfz9MHd8-00101-00029374-00029598 working on structuring data onto the key 9BgOfz9MHd8-00102-00029599-00029846 data as a way to make it machine 9BgOfz9MHd8-00103-00029847-00030012 accessible something that is crucial for 9BgOfz9MHd8-00104-00030013-00030177 it officially artificial intelligence 9BgOfz9MHd8-00105-00030177-00030527 they did Tice books historical books to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00106-00030528-00030743 preserve endangered languages they 9BgOfz9MHd8-00107-00030744-00030993 organize trainings and events they find 9BgOfz9MHd8-00108-00030994-00031118 partners and help them share their 9BgOfz9MHd8-00109-00031119-00031410 content they are the ones that build a 9BgOfz9MHd8-00110-00031411-00031640 software that makes Wikipedia run for 9BgOfz9MHd8-00111-00031641-00031848 the 500 million people that come there 9BgOfz9MHd8-00112-00031849-00032226 to read and learn every month there are 9BgOfz9MHd8-00113-00032227-00032511 thousands of people working on thousands 9BgOfz9MHd8-00114-00032512-00032762 of different projects large and small 9BgOfz9MHd8-00115-00032763-00033180 yet this is one global movement no one 9BgOfz9MHd8-00116-00033181-00033371 decides what the volunteers should do no 9BgOfz9MHd8-00117-00033372-00033543 one controls them they do what they feel 9BgOfz9MHd8-00118-00033544-00033850 are interesting and what they care about 9BgOfz9MHd8-00119-00033851-00034009 yet this is still working this is 9BgOfz9MHd8-00120-00034010-00034198 crowdsourcing and it's simply amazing 9BgOfz9MHd8-00121-00034199-00034570 that it works so writing articles is 9BgOfz9MHd8-00122-00034571-00034714 what got me started all these years ago 9BgOfz9MHd8-00123-00034715-00034900 but I did not expect that I would have 9BgOfz9MHd8-00124-00034901-00035167 ended up here because today I'm very 9BgOfz9MHd8-00125-00035168-00035377 very happy and excited to welcome all of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00126-00035378-00035494 you to this year's wiki Maine a 9BgOfz9MHd8-00127-00035495-00036380 conference here in Stockholm 9BgOfz9MHd8-00128-00036381-00036648 for us at Wikimedia Sweden we're more 9BgOfz9MHd8-00129-00036649-00036746 than thrilled to host this conference 9BgOfz9MHd8-00130-00036747-00036978 not just because standing on a stage in 9BgOfz9MHd8-00131-00036979-00037170 front of a thousand people it's pretty 9BgOfz9MHd8-00132-00037171-00037224 cool 9BgOfz9MHd8-00133-00037225-00037449 scary and humbling but it also kind of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00134-00037450-00037563 make you feel a little bit like a rock 9BgOfz9MHd8-00135-00037564-00037986 star but you know hosting a conference 9BgOfz9MHd8-00136-00037987-00038178 such as this has allowed us to introduce 9BgOfz9MHd8-00137-00038179-00038460 our work to so many great new volunteers 9BgOfz9MHd8-00138-00038461-00038531 and partners 9BgOfz9MHd8-00139-00038532-00038775 it has also a lot of sweets to tell 9BgOfz9MHd8-00140-00038776-00038916 Sweden about all the great things that 9BgOfz9MHd8-00141-00038917-00039249 we can meet a movement is doing and we 9BgOfz9MHd8-00142-00039250-00039423 will continue to tell people in Sweden 9BgOfz9MHd8-00143-00039424-00039741 about what I mean what we're working on 9BgOfz9MHd8-00144-00039742-00039885 utilising material from this very 9BgOfz9MHd8-00145-00039886-00040305 conference here in Sweden we have a few 9BgOfz9MHd8-00146-00040306-00040452 initiatives that have a global focus 9BgOfz9MHd8-00147-00040453-00040608 that you will find here in the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00148-00040609-00040821 conference program we are supporting 9BgOfz9MHd8-00149-00040822-00040971 organizations to share the content 9BgOfz9MHd8-00150-00040972-00041193 online for example historical 9BgOfz9MHd8-00151-00041194-00041481 collections from museums and to do this 9BgOfz9MHd8-00152-00041482-00041697 more efficiently we are working out to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00153-00041698-00041868 develop a technical team here in Sweden 9BgOfz9MHd8-00154-00041869-00042057 that will help support and build tools 9BgOfz9MHd8-00155-00042058-00042303 for the global movement we are 9BgOfz9MHd8-00156-00042304-00042441 developing a text-to-speech solution 9BgOfz9MHd8-00157-00042442-00042627 called wiki speech which is a way for 9BgOfz9MHd8-00158-00042628-00042846 people to listen to the capito so if you 9BgOfz9MHd8-00159-00042847-00043107 cannot read for any reason you can still 9BgOfz9MHd8-00160-00043108-00043361 access all that great material Brad 9BgOfz9MHd8-00161-00043362-00043754 thank you for that 9BgOfz9MHd8-00162-00043755-00043956 we're working with the ministry for 9BgOfz9MHd8-00163-00043957-00044124 Foreign Affairs to organize edit-a-thons 9BgOfz9MHd8-00164-00044125-00044339 at Swedish embassies across the world 9BgOfz9MHd8-00165-00044340-00044520 together with local de comedia 9BgOfz9MHd8-00166-00044521-00044643 affiliates and volunteers and local 9BgOfz9MHd8-00167-00044644-00045039 partners this is a campaign intended to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00168-00045040-00045219 reduce the gender gap and we call it 9BgOfz9MHd8-00169-00045220-00045537 wiki gap the ministries also have under 9BgOfz9MHd8-00170-00045538-00045684 supplied us with all these great things 9BgOfz9MHd8-00171-00045685-00046035 here on the stage we are working with 9BgOfz9MHd8-00172-00046036-00046212 UNESCO with Wikimedia Foundation and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00173-00046213-00046392 Swedish postcode lottery to collect 9BgOfz9MHd8-00174-00046393-00046515 information about all the world's 9BgOfz9MHd8-00175-00046516-00046658 galleries libraries archives museums 9BgOfz9MHd8-00176-00046659-00047049 what is often referred to as glams to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00177-00047050-00047235 case studies we're also identifying what 9BgOfz9MHd8-00178-00047236-00047349 taking the solution we need to develop 9BgOfz9MHd8-00179-00047350-00047592 to be able to efficiently add their 9BgOfz9MHd8-00180-00047593-00047724 content on to our platforms and this is 9BgOfz9MHd8-00181-00047725-00047949 a product we call finding glams and of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00182-00047950-00048147 course we hope to host a number of more 9BgOfz9MHd8-00183-00048148-00048312 conference here in Sweden to bring 9BgOfz9MHd8-00184-00048313-00048447 together our great movement in the years 9BgOfz9MHd8-00185-00048448-00048594 to come and plan for future projects 9BgOfz9MHd8-00186-00048595-00049026 initiatives but today I'm very happy to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00187-00049027-00049263 talk about the conference stop called 9BgOfz9MHd8-00188-00049264-00049425 this very conference we can Maine at 9BgOfz9MHd8-00189-00049426-00049683 2019 as you've heard it's been organized 9BgOfz9MHd8-00190-00049684-00049911 15 times but this is the first time in 9BgOfz9MHd8-00191-00049912-00049974 Northern Europe 9BgOfz9MHd8-00192-00049975-00050175 and ever since we sent in our 9BgOfz9MHd8-00193-00050176-00050409 application to host Wikimania I've been 9BgOfz9MHd8-00194-00050410-00050534 worried about three different things 9BgOfz9MHd8-00195-00050535-00050769 what is whatever weather would be here 9BgOfz9MHd8-00196-00050770-00050994 in Sweden but what you would think about 9BgOfz9MHd8-00197-00050995-00051210 a Swedish food and what you would think 9BgOfz9MHd8-00198-00051211-00051378 about all the major things we changed in 9BgOfz9MHd8-00199-00051379-00051624 the conference this year as you might 9BgOfz9MHd8-00200-00051625-00051735 remember I warn you about these things 9BgOfz9MHd8-00201-00051736-00051924 when I was on stage in Cape Town in 9BgOfz9MHd8-00202-00051925-00052130 South Africa last year but I'm very 9BgOfz9MHd8-00203-00052132-00052354 happy to see that you were not scared of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00204-00052355-00052653 in fact we had a record number of 800 9BgOfz9MHd8-00205-00052654-00052896 applicants for the scholarships around 9BgOfz9MHd8-00206-00052897-00053092 400 submissions for the program and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00207-00053094-00053316 today we have around 900 people 9BgOfz9MHd8-00208-00053316-00053613 attending it was also great that we had 9BgOfz9MHd8-00209-00053614-00054079 150 people applying to become volunteers 9BgOfz9MHd8-00210-00054080-00054394 and with some 9BgOfz9MHd8-00211-00054395-00055003 [Applause] 9BgOfz9MHd8-00212-00055004-00055291 with so many great volunteer applicants 9BgOfz9MHd8-00213-00055292-00055478 it was really tough to handpick the 50 9BgOfz9MHd8-00214-00055479-00055616 volunteers that are now working with us 9BgOfz9MHd8-00215-00055616-00055842 to support all aspects of the conference 9BgOfz9MHd8-00216-00055844-00056147 we also had a wonderful program 9BgOfz9MHd8-00217-00056148-00056420 committee led by Lee and Wyatt they did 9BgOfz9MHd8-00218-00056421-00056573 a fantastic job of organizing all the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00219-00056574-00057169 programs we had a 9BgOfz9MHd8-00220-00057170-00057428 we had a wonderful scholarship committee 9BgOfz9MHd8-00221-00057429-00057590 that had to go through all the 800 9BgOfz9MHd8-00222-00057591-00057923 applicants which is a very tough job and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00223-00057924-00058136 we also have a 50 people that has helped 9BgOfz9MHd8-00224-00058137-00058346 on a line to help translate the material 9BgOfz9MHd8-00225-00058347-00058492 we have and to help spread their 9BgOfz9MHd8-00226-00058494-00058685 communities an extremely important job 9BgOfz9MHd8-00227-00058686-00058895 so I would like to give another round of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00228-00058896-00059045 applause for all these great people so 9BgOfz9MHd8-00229-00059046-00059704 please join me on that one thank you so 9BgOfz9MHd8-00230-00059705-00059840 much for your work it is truly amazing 9BgOfz9MHd8-00231-00059841-00060004 and without you would not been possible 9BgOfz9MHd8-00232-00060005-00060391 organize this conference this year we 9BgOfz9MHd8-00233-00060392-00060545 have a theme for the conference you see 9BgOfz9MHd8-00234-00060546-00060716 it here up on the screen stronger 9BgOfz9MHd8-00235-00060716-00060752 together 9BgOfz9MHd8-00236-00060753-00060955 Wikimedia free knowledge and sustainable 9BgOfz9MHd8-00237-00060957-00061232 development goals we wanted a theme that 9BgOfz9MHd8-00238-00061233-00061403 was presenting our work in a new light 9BgOfz9MHd8-00239-00061404-00061601 that was forward-looking and that was 9BgOfz9MHd8-00240-00061602-00061811 inclusive the sustainable development 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conference has been something I'm very 9BgOfz9MHd8-00337-00082908-00083178 excited about this afternoon we will 9BgOfz9MHd8-00338-00083179-00083363 have Creative Commons we will have the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00339-00083364-00083531 humanitarian OpenStreetMap team intern 9BgOfz9MHd8-00340-00083532-00083811 archive and many more tell how they are 9BgOfz9MHd8-00341-00083812-00083976 contributing free knowledge and how it 9BgOfz9MHd8-00342-00083977-00084093 helps sustain the sustainable 9BgOfz9MHd8-00343-00084094-00084321 development goals and I hope you will 9BgOfz9MHd8-00344-00084322-00084456 take this opportunity to network with 9BgOfz9MHd8-00345-00084457-00084660 them and learn from their from your 9BgOfz9MHd8-00346-00084661-00084821 peers during this entire conference 9BgOfz9MHd8-00347-00084822-00085068 together and only together we can truly 9BgOfz9MHd8-00348-00085069-00085301 change the world and with that I would 9BgOfz9MHd8-00349-00085302-00085497 like to hand over to Eric lute our 9BgOfz9MHd8-00350-00085498-00085631 conference manager and one of them 9BgOfz9MHd8-00351-00085632-00085757 people have made this whole event 9BgOfz9MHd8-00352-00085758-00085992 possible thank you Eric and thank to you 9BgOfz9MHd8-00353-00085993-00086909 all thank you 9BgOfz9MHd8-00354-00086910-00087234 well there's a big crowd I'm very 9BgOfz9MHd8-00355-00087235-00087384 excited to be able to be here today 9BgOfz9MHd8-00356-00087385-00087536 because we have worked very hard from 9BgOfz9MHd8-00357-00087537-00087704 the wikimedia is very a chapter for the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00358-00087705-00088024 last almost year to make this possible 9BgOfz9MHd8-00359-00088025-00088250 my speech today is going to be one of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00360-00088251-00088394 the most exciting ones for this year's 9BgOfz9MHd8-00361-00088395-00088541 Wikimania is the ones that's going to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00362-00088542-00088751 cover housekeeping and logistics and I 9BgOfz9MHd8-00363-00088752-00088901 hope this is going to get very good 9BgOfz9MHd8-00364-00088902-00089075 grades from you in the evaluation 9BgOfz9MHd8-00365-00089076-00089762 afterwards if something happens if there 9BgOfz9MHd8-00366-00089763-00089912 is an emergency and we all have to leave 9BgOfz9MHd8-00367-00089913-00090107 this room as quickly as possible look 9BgOfz9MHd8-00368-00090108-00090275 for this sign that's the sign for the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00369-00090276-00090482 emergency exits you find emergency exits 9BgOfz9MHd8-00370-00090483-00090851 all across this lecture hall and the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00371-00090852-00090974 good thing to think about is to try to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00372-00090975-00091136 get out as quickly as possible and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00373-00091137-00091337 gather at the lawn outside of Ala Magna 9BgOfz9MHd8-00374-00091338-00091523 grab only what you have in your hands 9BgOfz9MHd8-00375-00091524-00091724 and try to get out of here as quickly as 9BgOfz9MHd8-00376-00091725-00091779 possible 9BgOfz9MHd8-00377-00091780-00091929 hopefully nothing would that will happen 9BgOfz9MHd8-00378-00091930-00092079 but it's very important to know if there 9BgOfz9MHd8-00379-00092080-00092403 should be something there is a trust and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00380-00092404-00092635 safety team present here at Wikimania 9BgOfz9MHd8-00381-00092636-00092954 2019 we're very exciting excited to be 9BgOfz9MHd8-00382-00092955-00093153 able to present a safe environment for 9BgOfz9MHd8-00383-00093154-00093362 all of you are here you can recognize 9BgOfz9MHd8-00384-00093363-00093516 the people in the trust and safety team 9BgOfz9MHd8-00385-00093517-00093701 by the red bandanas they are wearing 9BgOfz9MHd8-00386-00093702-00093891 when they are on duty on this picture 9BgOfz9MHd8-00387-00093892-00094128 you'll find Krystal Joe and Kelly OPA 9BgOfz9MHd8-00388-00094129-00094268 who are among the trust and safety team 9BgOfz9MHd8-00389-00094269-00094473 they will also be sitting in the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00390-00094474-00094598 community village and the interactive 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9BgOfz9MHd8-00404-00097689-00098174 anything happens call 1 1 2 1 1 2 is the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00405-00098175-00098415 number 2 the Swedish emergency services 9BgOfz9MHd8-00406-00098416-00098582 I know that we have different numbers 9BgOfz9MHd8-00407-00098583-00098705 across the world they want to remember 9BgOfz9MHd8-00408-00098706-00098876 for this year's we remain as one 1 2 9BgOfz9MHd8-00409-00098877-00099111 hopefully no one will have to use it but 9BgOfz9MHd8-00410-00099112-00099305 if you have to getting content with the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00411-00099306-00099501 emergency services this is the number 9BgOfz9MHd8-00412-00099502-00099645 that you're supposed to call and call 9BgOfz9MHd8-00413-00099646-00099894 them before you do anything else if you 9BgOfz9MHd8-00414-00099895-00100071 have called them notify any of the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00415-00100072-00100284 managers here on site if you have if you 9BgOfz9MHd8-00416-00100285-00100641 need any kind of help there's also on 9BgOfz9MHd8-00417-00100642-00100821 the backside of your badge a number to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00418-00100822-00101004 the campus security they are happy to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00419-00101005-00101238 help if you have any kinds of needs that 9BgOfz9MHd8-00420-00101239-00101463 relates to security you will also notice 9BgOfz9MHd8-00421-00101464-00101610 when you go across the aula magna 9BgOfz9MHd8-00422-00101611-00101799 building that there are security guards 9BgOfz9MHd8-00423-00101800-00102003 inside here they're also happy to help 9BgOfz9MHd8-00424-00102004-00102707 if you should have any need one of the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00425-00102708-00102813 things that I makes me very excited 9BgOfz9MHd8-00426-00102814-00102993 about the Wikimedia movement is the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00427-00102994-00103188 extreme diversity we can see this 9BgOfz9MHd8-00428-00103189-00103334 diversity here in this room today we 9BgOfz9MHd8-00429-00103335-00103460 come from different cultures different 9BgOfz9MHd8-00430-00103461-00103607 countries different backgrounds from 9BgOfz9MHd8-00431-00103608-00103830 different religions we are very diverse 9BgOfz9MHd8-00432-00103831-00104091 that's a very fantastic thing but that 9BgOfz9MHd8-00433-00104092-00104247 also means that we sometimes have to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00434-00104248-00104382 think about how we treat each other and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00435-00104383-00104622 how we talk with each other in noble - 9BgOfz9MHd8-00436-00104623-00104759 in order to be able to ensure that we 9BgOfz9MHd8-00437-00104760-00104895 have a friendly space policy and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00438-00104896-00105033 everyone who is registered for this 9BgOfz9MHd8-00439-00105033-00105270 event has signed an agreement to this 9BgOfz9MHd8-00440-00105271-00105458 year's premise-based policy you can read 9BgOfz9MHd8-00441-00105459-00105648 the entire policy on the Wikimania wiki 9BgOfz9MHd8-00442-00105649-00105996 and it's also printed and at several 9BgOfz9MHd8-00443-00105997-00106272 places across the venue the important 9BgOfz9MHd8-00444-00106273-00106422 thing when we deal with each other is 9BgOfz9MHd8-00445-00106423-00106596 the common belief anyone who is in this 9BgOfz9MHd8-00446-00106597-00106803 room believes dearly in free knowledge 9BgOfz9MHd8-00447-00106804-00106989 and the free knowledge can liberate 9BgOfz9MHd8-00448-00106990-00107315 people if we remember that and try to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00449-00107316-00107589 treat every one of us with with respect 9BgOfz9MHd8-00450-00107590-00107748 I think this conference is going to go 9BgOfz9MHd8-00451-00107749-00108027 very very well if there is an incident 9BgOfz9MHd8-00452-00108028-00108267 if someone treats you badly harasses you 9BgOfz9MHd8-00453-00108268-00108471 or if there is any kind of incident feel 9BgOfz9MHd8-00454-00108472-00108639 free again to reach out to the trust and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00455-00108640-00108990 safety team you may also have noticed 9BgOfz9MHd8-00456-00108991-00109170 that there is a new photo policy for 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again inside here will be 9BgOfz9MHd8-00498-00117465-00117699 aired on Swedish television if you don't 9BgOfz9MHd8-00499-00117700-00117889 want to be aired on Swedish television 9BgOfz9MHd8-00500-00117890-00118158 make sure to go or a treat towards the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00501-00118158-00118422 back of this lecture hall if you want to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00502-00118423-00118632 be very very sure that you are not on 9BgOfz9MHd8-00503-00118633-00118934 any kind of documented places at all you 9BgOfz9MHd8-00504-00118935-00119181 can use any of the balconies which will 9BgOfz9MHd8-00505-00119182-00119489 be totally safe it's also very exciting 9BgOfz9MHd8-00506-00119490-00119627 I think that we will be able to receive 9BgOfz9MHd8-00507-00119628-00119847 a cc-by copy of the word of the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00508-00119848-00120089 documentation from the origin that means 9BgOfz9MHd8-00509-00120090-00120239 that we will in the end be able to also 9BgOfz9MHd8-00510-00120240-00120414 spread everything that's happening 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be that they don't want to be documented 9BgOfz9MHd8-00525-00124165-00124441 but speaking loudly in an event which is 9BgOfz9MHd8-00526-00124442-00124635 documented is seen as consent to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00527-00124636-00125017 document your voice all in all if we 9BgOfz9MHd8-00528-00125018-00125173 manage to document everything that is 9BgOfz9MHd8-00529-00125174-00125334 happening that means that we will end up 9BgOfz9MHd8-00530-00125335-00125497 with between two and three hundred hours 9BgOfz9MHd8-00531-00125498-00125647 of documentation from this year's 9BgOfz9MHd8-00532-00125648-00125811 Wikimania and I think that's going to be 9BgOfz9MHd8-00533-00125813-00126028 pretty amazing to use to be able to use 9BgOfz9MHd8-00534-00126029-00126364 that afterwards a few words about the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00535-00126365-00126568 program and maybe especially what's 9BgOfz9MHd8-00536-00126569-00126885 happening in this room today after lunch 9BgOfz9MHd8-00537-00126886-00127063 as you may know we're gonna 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9BgOfz9MHd8-00551-00129803-00130144 view as a starting ground to to further 9BgOfz9MHd8-00552-00130145-00130279 our work and hopefully knowledge can 9BgOfz9MHd8-00553-00130280-00130461 concretely contribute to the global 9BgOfz9MHd8-00554-00130463-00130840 goals when it comes to the program in 9BgOfz9MHd8-00555-00130841-00131125 itself it ended up with more than 250 9BgOfz9MHd8-00556-00131126-00131431 items across 19 different spaces and as 9BgOfz9MHd8-00557-00131432-00131563 far as I understand that's the largest 9BgOfz9MHd8-00558-00131564-00131716 program that has ever been held at the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00559-00131717-00131767 Wikimania 9BgOfz9MHd8-00560-00131768-00132033 and includes workshops lectures 9BgOfz9MHd8-00561-00132034-00132292 roundtables seminars and it's very 9BgOfz9MHd8-00562-00132293-00132592 diverse in its setup all the sessions 9BgOfz9MHd8-00563-00132593-00132766 that will be inside here except for the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00564-00132767-00132904 one today will be documented by the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00565-00132905-00133153 Wikimedia Foundation and most rooms will 9BgOfz9MHd8-00566-00133154-00133369 again be documented recorded by 9BgOfz9MHd8-00567-00133370-00133786 volunteers from Wikimedia Sweden if this 9BgOfz9MHd8-00568-00133787-00133963 is your first ever Wikimania we have 9BgOfz9MHd8-00569-00133964-00134137 tried to make it clear in the program 9BgOfz9MHd8-00570-00134138-00134344 which sessions ours are especially 9BgOfz9MHd8-00571-00134345-00134446 suited if 9BgOfz9MHd8-00572-00134447-00134790 this first time we came in snd look for 9BgOfz9MHd8-00573-00134791-00135022 ideal for newbies icons and you can go 9BgOfz9MHd8-00574-00135023-00135310 to two sessions that will be very easy 9BgOfz9MHd8-00575-00135311-00135685 to understand for anyone it may be a bit 9BgOfz9MHd8-00576-00135686-00135856 tricky this first day to find your way 9BgOfz9MHd8-00577-00135857-00136036 across the venue we have plenty of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00578-00136037-00136227 volunteers that will try 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9BgOfz9MHd8-00592-00139220-00139428 that on the on the screen if not it's 9BgOfz9MHd8-00593-00139429-00139744 it's not the largest one the largest 9BgOfz9MHd8-00594-00139745-00139924 went to the to the top left that's other 9BgOfz9MHd8-00595-00139925-00140079 who sets which will include a lot of the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00596-00140080-00140316 breakout sessions to the right of the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00597-00140317-00140527 Sutter who said there is the owl who sit 9BgOfz9MHd8-00598-00140528-00140722 in our magma and those two buildings are 9BgOfz9MHd8-00599-00140723-00140904 connected so you can go through from 9BgOfz9MHd8-00600-00140905-00141064 here to all who said without leaving 9BgOfz9MHd8-00601-00141065-00141414 this building Ola Magna will be used for 9BgOfz9MHd8-00602-00141415-00141615 a lot of sessions as well as will also 9BgOfz9MHd8-00603-00141616-00141895 you restenosis which is in that 9BgOfz9MHd8-00604-00141896-00141961 direction 9BgOfz9MHd8-00605-00141962-00142186 it is no it was proven to be very hard 9BgOfz9MHd8-00606-00142187-00142324 to pronounce for a lot of people inside 9BgOfz9MHd8-00607-00142325-00142527 here you can always go to a suite if you 9BgOfz9MHd8-00608-00142528-00142689 need help with pronunciation hopefully 9BgOfz9MHd8-00609-00142690-00142921 everyone by the end of this weekend at 9BgOfz9MHd8-00610-00142922-00143071 least will be able to say you listeners 9BgOfz9MHd8-00611-00143072-00143686 without any flaw you're also very 9BgOfz9MHd8-00612-00143687-00143887 excited to be able to introduce you or 9BgOfz9MHd8-00613-00143888-00144100 to welcome you till 2:00 to social 9BgOfz9MHd8-00614-00144101-00144388 events those social events are possible 9BgOfz9MHd8-00615-00144389-00144559 due to our close work with several of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00616-00144560-00144877 our partners one event will take place 9BgOfz9MHd8-00617-00144878-00145089 in the Stockholm City Hall you're all 9BgOfz9MHd8-00618-00145090-00145254 invited to attend the Welcome Reception 9BgOfz9MHd8-00619-00145255-00145597 which is hosted in the city hall by the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00620-00145598-00145960 Stockholm City Council the the City Hall 9BgOfz9MHd8-00621-00145961-00146119 was built in the early 20th century and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00622-00146120-00146275 I think it's one of the landmarks of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00623-00146276-00146656 Stockholm the other social one event 9BgOfz9MHd8-00624-00146657-00146896 will be the closing party which is gonna 9BgOfz9MHd8-00625-00146897-00147085 be hosted at the nordic museum in the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00626-00147086-00147472 large hall some of you who have been 9BgOfz9MHd8-00627-00147473-00147607 here for a while may have already been 9BgOfz9MHd8-00628-00147608-00147751 to the nordic museum but it's a 9BgOfz9MHd8-00629-00147752-00147823 beautiful bill 9BgOfz9MHd8-00630-00147824-00148156 that is located in Stockholm as well so 9BgOfz9MHd8-00631-00148157-00148351 with those two social events I hope that 9BgOfz9MHd8-00632-00148352-00148666 we will have a except for the program 9BgOfz9MHd8-00633-00148667-00148837 and everything the second place here a 9BgOfz9MHd8-00634-00148838-00149173 very large amount of time to also be 9BgOfz9MHd8-00635-00149174-00149323 able to socialize and have a really good 9BgOfz9MHd8-00636-00149324-00149851 time together some fun and exciting 9BgOfz9MHd8-00637-00149852-00150010 logistical information about how to get 9BgOfz9MHd8-00638-00150011-00150310 to the opening reception today this is 9BgOfz9MHd8-00639-00150311-00150511 kind of the one really really important 9BgOfz9MHd8-00640-00150512-00150739 time of this year's with Romania in 9BgOfz9MHd8-00641-00150740-00150982 order to ensure that everyone will be at 9BgOfz9MHd8-00642-00150983-00151168 time at the city hall we have buses 9BgOfz9MHd8-00643-00151169-00151426 going from here to the city hall after 9BgOfz9MHd8-00644-00151427-00151699 the sessions end here today the buses 9BgOfz9MHd8-00645-00151700-00151990 will leave between 5:30 and 6:00 we will 9BgOfz9MHd8-00646-00151991-00152128 have volunteers who will guide you in 9BgOfz9MHd8-00647-00152129-00152260 the right directions to be able to find 9BgOfz9MHd8-00648-00152261-00152389 the places where the buses will pick you 9BgOfz9MHd8-00649-00152390-00152731 up there will be two men picking up 9BgOfz9MHd8-00650-00152732-00153133 locations for the buses one will be just 9BgOfz9MHd8-00651-00153134-00153301 outside ala Magna and one will be just 9BgOfz9MHd8-00652-00153302-00153610 outside Sutter who sets and all who sets 9BgOfz9MHd8-00653-00153611-00153964 in order to get to the bus buses outside 9BgOfz9MHd8-00654-00153965-00154135 all among not just go out from here and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00655-00154136-00154531 to the farthest left or to your right in 9BgOfz9MHd8-00656-00154532-00154852 that direction go down the stairs and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00657-00154853-00155071 exit in that direction then you will be 9BgOfz9MHd8-00658-00155072-00155326 able to find one of the bus picking up 9BgOfz9MHd8-00659-00155327-00155797 areas the other one will be between 9BgOfz9MHd8-00660-00155798-00156004 starter whose is null who set and so the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00661-00156005-00156493 who set you remember was the oh the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00662-00156494-00156778 large building at the top left so if you 9BgOfz9MHd8-00663-00156779-00156985 go between all who set and Sutter who 9BgOfz9MHd8-00664-00156986-00157306 sets you'll be able to get to to the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00665-00157307-00157558 other bus location but don't worry again 9BgOfz9MHd8-00666-00157559-00157696 there will be several volunteers there 9BgOfz9MHd8-00667-00157697-00157855 have white t-shirts and they are very 9BgOfz9MHd8-00668-00157856-00158041 happy to help you find the way to the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00669-00158042-00158569 buses and that's a photo one of the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00670-00158570-00159091 locations and out of respect for the for 9BgOfz9MHd8-00671-00159092-00159319 the stockholm city hall please arrive at 9BgOfz9MHd8-00672-00159320-00159541 city hall before the doors open at 6:25 9BgOfz9MHd8-00673-00159542-00159874 if you go by the buses there's no way 9BgOfz9MHd8-00674-00159875-00160048 that you won't be able to do this if 9BgOfz9MHd8-00675-00160049-00160240 you're going there by yourself it's 9BgOfz9MHd8-00676-00160241-00160375 really important that you respect this 9BgOfz9MHd8-00677-00160376-00160690 time if those of you taking the buses 9BgOfz9MHd8-00678-00160691-00160864 you're getting you'll be getting an 9BgOfz9MHd8-00679-00160865-00161032 entrance ticket when you go when you go 9BgOfz9MHd8-00680-00161033-00161179 up on the bus 9BgOfz9MHd8-00681-00161180-00161344 this must be presented when you entered 9BgOfz9MHd8-00682-00161345-00161569 the City Hall if you want to go to the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00683-00161570-00161739 city hall by yourself 9BgOfz9MHd8-00684-00161740-00161971 volunteers will stand outside of the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00685-00161972-00162166 city hall and give you those tickets but 9BgOfz9MHd8-00686-00162167-00162400 they have to be presented in order to be 9BgOfz9MHd8-00687-00162401-00162754 able to to get into this City Hall you 9BgOfz9MHd8-00688-00162755-00163060 must also wear with mania badge in order 9BgOfz9MHd8-00689-00163061-00163282 to enter the reception and unfortunately 9BgOfz9MHd8-00690-00163283-00163678 guests are not permitted for the nordic 9BgOfz9MHd8-00691-00163679-00163918 museum closing reception that party on 9BgOfz9MHd8-00692-00163919-00164164 Sunday it will start at 8:00 and close 9BgOfz9MHd8-00693-00164165-00164503 at midnight in when you registered you 9BgOfz9MHd8-00694-00164504-00164800 got an entrance tickets this one must be 9BgOfz9MHd8-00695-00164801-00164956 presented in order to enter nordic 9BgOfz9MHd8-00696-00164957-00165343 museum in in your in your badge as well 9BgOfz9MHd8-00697-00165344-00165541 you will hopefully have two drink 9BgOfz9MHd8-00698-00165542-00165742 tickets those can be exchanged when you 9BgOfz9MHd8-00699-00165743-00166009 get into the nordic museum to get drinks 9BgOfz9MHd8-00700-00166010-00166330 at the Museum at the Museum we're also 9BgOfz9MHd8-00701-00166331-00166537 very excited to be able to host the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00702-00166538-00166759 museum scavenger hunts and you can see 9BgOfz9MHd8-00703-00166760-00166876 the sign at the entrance for more 9BgOfz9MHd8-00704-00166877-00167329 details about this exciting thing again 9BgOfz9MHd8-00705-00167330-00167503 when you enter the nordic museum 9BgOfz9MHd8-00706-00167504-00167683 you must also where I would mania badge 9BgOfz9MHd8-00707-00167684-00167854 and guests are unfortunately not 9BgOfz9MHd8-00708-00167855-00168217 permitted and finally we have a third a 9BgOfz9MHd8-00709-00168218-00168406 bit smaller but still very important 9BgOfz9MHd8-00710-00168407-00168682 social events everyone who went to the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00711-00168683-00168910 Wikimedia conference in Berlin earlier 9BgOfz9MHd8-00712-00168911-00169189 this year will already know about it but 9BgOfz9MHd8-00713-00169190-00169372 this weekend except for being with main 9BgOfz9MHd8-00714-00169373-00169708 event 19 also starts the drumming time 9BgOfz9MHd8-00715-00169709-00169915 of Sweden each year if you don't know 9BgOfz9MHd8-00716-00169916-00170104 what su strumming is it's very tasteful 9BgOfz9MHd8-00717-00170105-00170379 fermented herring 9BgOfz9MHd8-00718-00170380-00170656 the University says it's okay for us to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00719-00170657-00170872 to get you to taste it as long as we're 9BgOfz9MHd8-00720-00170873-00171115 outside make sure to collect all the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00721-00171116-00171316 trash and throw it away far away from 9BgOfz9MHd8-00722-00171317-00171457 here in order to make sure that there's 9BgOfz9MHd8-00723-00171458-00171772 nothing stinking here afterwards the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00724-00171773-00171904 suits throw me tasting it will take 9BgOfz9MHd8-00725-00171905-00172192 place tomorrow at 5:00 it's going to be 9BgOfz9MHd8-00726-00172193-00172324 just outside our Lamanna in that 9BgOfz9MHd8-00727-00172325-00172531 direction and we are very happy to see 9BgOfz9MHd8-00728-00172532-00172789 all the funny faces that attendees will 9BgOfz9MHd8-00729-00172790-00173035 do when you try to taste the fermented 9BgOfz9MHd8-00730-00173036-00173395 herring with those words that think that 9BgOfz9MHd8-00731-00173396-00173668 I have said all the very funny exciting 9BgOfz9MHd8-00732-00173669-00173827 and logistical things of this year's 9BgOfz9MHd8-00733-00173828-00174007 Wikimania if you have any questions 9BgOfz9MHd8-00734-00174008-00174220 there are always people in the in the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00735-00174221-00174536 help desk that can answer your questions 9BgOfz9MHd8-00736-00174537-00174737 we will together from the from the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00737-00174738-00174848 conference team try to make sure that 9BgOfz9MHd8-00738-00174849-00175067 you have everything that you need in 9BgOfz9MHd8-00739-00175068-00175202 order to have a really good conference 9BgOfz9MHd8-00740-00175203-00175367 and with those words 9BgOfz9MHd8-00741-00175368-00175742 I'd really like to invite our keynote 9BgOfz9MHd8-00742-00175743-00175958 speaker of this year's Wikimania a long 9BgOfz9MHd8-00743-00175959-00176045 time 9BgOfz9MHd8-00744-00176046-00176375 Wikipedia fan and devotee of open 9BgOfz9MHd8-00745-00176376-00176675 content and also co-founder of the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00746-00176676-00176867 Museum of the United Nations you in live 9BgOfz9MHd8-00747-00176868-00177023 a warm round of applause for Michael 9BgOfz9MHd8-00748-00177024-00179959 Peter Edson good morning everybody 9BgOfz9MHd8-00749-00179960-00180201 okay I think we're good 9BgOfz9MHd8-00750-00180202-00181801 hi hey this is my spirit animal this 9BgOfz9MHd8-00751-00181802-00182033 moose lahars 9BgOfz9MHd8-00752-00182034-00182290 moose I really appreciate that whoever 9BgOfz9MHd8-00753-00182291-00182587 designed that made me feel very much at 9BgOfz9MHd8-00754-00182588-00182756 home and put me in the right mood to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00755-00182757-00183920 come and speak with you this morning 9BgOfz9MHd8-00756-00183921-00184314 how do we get difficult work done in 9BgOfz9MHd8-00757-00184315-00184875 society and by we I mean you as a 9BgOfz9MHd8-00758-00184876-00185145 community I mean use individuals I mean 9BgOfz9MHd8-00759-00185146-00185517 use as citizens of your countries as 9BgOfz9MHd8-00760-00185518-00185886 human beings as life-forms and I mean us 9BgOfz9MHd8-00761-00185887-00186411 we in this room because there's a lot to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00762-00186412-00186816 do and related to that question really 9BgOfz9MHd8-00763-00186817-00187086 is another question how do we get 9BgOfz9MHd8-00764-00187087-00187371 millions or realistically billions of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00765-00187372-00187695 people working together on global goals 9BgOfz9MHd8-00766-00187696-00188097 and I put global goals as as broadly and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00767-00188098-00188415 openly as possible things that need to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00768-00188416-00188822 get done 9BgOfz9MHd8-00769-00188823-00189416 I'm Michael Edson I'm co-founder and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00770-00189417-00189597 associate director of this thing called 9BgOfz9MHd8-00771-00189598-00189840 the museum for the United Nations UN 9BgOfz9MHd8-00772-00189841-00190439 live and before I left my secure happy 9BgOfz9MHd8-00773-00190440-00190671 wonderful job at the Smithsonian 9BgOfz9MHd8-00774-00190672-00190898 Institution in Washington to start this 9BgOfz9MHd8-00775-00190899-00191283 job I was a digital strategist a web 9BgOfz9MHd8-00776-00191284-00191777 maker and doer a huge believer in the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00777-00191778-00192132 vision of the web of the Internet as a 9BgOfz9MHd8-00778-00192133-00192315 place where we could do important work 9BgOfz9MHd8-00779-00192316-00192539 together a society and have a lot of fun 9BgOfz9MHd8-00780-00192540-00192873 I've been working in museums for 25 9BgOfz9MHd8-00781-00192874-00193158 years but I don't think of myself as a 9BgOfz9MHd8-00782-00193159-00193401 museum person I'm a painter and a 9BgOfz9MHd8-00783-00193402-00193707 printmaker by training like many people 9BgOfz9MHd8-00784-00193708-00193938 my age we were doing other things when 9BgOfz9MHd8-00785-00193939-00194214 the internet got interesting I think the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00786-00194215-00194466 first web page I saw was for the Museum 9BgOfz9MHd8-00787-00194467-00194706 of Paleontology at Stanford University 9BgOfz9MHd8-00788-00194707-00195393 on mosaic xxx version xxx my first job 9BgOfz9MHd8-00789-00195394-00195525 at the Smithsonian was cleaning 9BgOfz9MHd8-00790-00195526-00195885 Plexiglas wax on wax off ten dollars a 9BgOfz9MHd8-00791-00195886-00196125 case and it was in a lot of ways the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00792-00196126-00196608 best job I ever had I'm gonna start 9BgOfz9MHd8-00793-00196609-00196838 today we're gonna 9BgOfz9MHd8-00794-00196839-00197015 talk talk we're gonna play play play 9BgOfz9MHd8-00795-00197016-00197242 we're gonna work together a little bit 9BgOfz9MHd8-00796-00197243-00197462 we're gonna talk a little more and then 9BgOfz9MHd8-00797-00197463-00197621 I'm going to leave you with a big 9BgOfz9MHd8-00798-00197622-00197834 open-ended question which is how can 9BgOfz9MHd8-00799-00197835-00198071 this community which has accomplished so 9BgOfz9MHd8-00800-00198072-00198680 much together stretch a little bit to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00801-00198681-00199226 accomplish something more so a few 9BgOfz9MHd8-00802-00199227-00199435 stories a few thoughts starters here 9BgOfz9MHd8-00803-00199436-00199991 blink this is a pottery studio and I'm 9BgOfz9MHd8-00804-00199992-00200216 thinking of an anecdote from the book 9BgOfz9MHd8-00805-00200217-00200591 art and fear observations on the perils 9BgOfz9MHd8-00806-00200592-00200873 and rewards of art making and and in 9BgOfz9MHd8-00807-00200874-00201074 this story cannot break the plane here 9BgOfz9MHd8-00808-00201075-00201518 yes I can stay in the light so in this 9BgOfz9MHd8-00809-00201519-00201752 pottery classes the stories told the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00810-00201753-00202007 first day of class in a college pottery 9BgOfz9MHd8-00811-00202008-00202166 class and the professor says okay 9BgOfz9MHd8-00812-00202167-00202439 everyone I'm going to divide this class 9BgOfz9MHd8-00813-00202440-00202799 in half everyone on this side of the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00814-00202800-00203165 room I'm going to grade you on the last 9BgOfz9MHd8-00815-00203166-00203585 day of class depending on the weight of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00816-00203586-00203777 the pots that you make during the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00817-00203778-00203966 semester if you make all I'm gonna bring 9BgOfz9MHd8-00818-00203967-00204173 in my bathroom scale and we're gonna put 9BgOfz9MHd8-00819-00204174-00204320 your pots on it if you make a hundred 9BgOfz9MHd8-00820-00204321-00204521 pounds of pots you get an A if you make 9BgOfz9MHd8-00821-00204522-00204686 80 pounds of pots you get a B and so on 9BgOfz9MHd8-00822-00204687-00204727 and so on 9BgOfz9MHd8-00823-00204728-00205175 you overhear bring me one pot on the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00824-00205176-00205403 last day of class and I will grade you 9BgOfz9MHd8-00825-00205404-00205915 on that pot now go learn and make and as 9BgOfz9MHd8-00826-00205916-00206210 the story is told it was apparent from 9BgOfz9MHd8-00827-00206211-00206617 the very first days of class that by far 9BgOfz9MHd8-00828-00206619-00206984 the best work was happening not from the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00829-00206985-00207398 group assigned to quality but the group 9BgOfz9MHd8-00830-00207398-00207776 assigned to quantity it seemed that when 9BgOfz9MHd8-00831-00207777-00207973 students were trying to do work that 9BgOfz9MHd8-00832-00207975-00208304 mattered those assigned to think about 9BgOfz9MHd8-00833-00208305-00208471 quality were standing around 9BgOfz9MHd8-00834-00208471-00208760 contemplating perfection while those 9BgOfz9MHd8-00835-00208761-00208966 assigned to quantity were just trying 9BgOfz9MHd8-00836-00208967-00209327 things out and learning it was clear to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00837-00209328-00209603 everyone in the class so that's Story 9BgOfz9MHd8-00838-00209604-00209900 number one Story number two is a kind of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00839-00209901-00210148 intro is I was 9BgOfz9MHd8-00840-00210148-00210434 privileged to be a juror for the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00841-00210435-00210635 MacArthur Foundation's hundred and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00842-00210636-00210965 change initiative the MacArthur 9BgOfz9MHd8-00843-00210966-00211280 Foundation had a change in strategy 9BgOfz9MHd8-00844-00211281-00211469 where they thought instead of spreading 9BgOfz9MHd8-00845-00211469-00211733 or out around a lot of money to a lot of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00846-00211734-00211996 worthy projects we're going to fund one 9BgOfz9MHd8-00847-00211998-00212392 major project to solve a major problem 9BgOfz9MHd8-00848-00212394-00212582 and put a hundred million dollars on the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00849-00212583-00212852 table for that over three years and I 9BgOfz9MHd8-00850-00212853-00213023 read a lot of these proposals and they 9BgOfz9MHd8-00851-00213023-00213548 were all breathtaking not only new kinds 9BgOfz9MHd8-00852-00213548-00213788 of problems that I had imagined but ways 9BgOfz9MHd8-00853-00213789-00213980 of working on problems that I had not 9BgOfz9MHd8-00854-00213981-00214187 imagined before but what was very 9BgOfz9MHd8-00855-00214188-00214592 apparent as a juror was that a hundred 9BgOfz9MHd8-00856-00214592-00214901 million dollars doesn't buy you much I'm 9BgOfz9MHd8-00857-00214902-00215407 sorry to say in one project as I recall 9BgOfz9MHd8-00858-00215408-00215771 it was proposing to reform the child 9BgOfz9MHd8-00859-00215771-00216140 welfare system in the United States the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00860-00216141-00216323 child welfare system in the United 9BgOfz9MHd8-00861-00216323-00216523 States spends twenty three billion 9BgOfz9MHd8-00862-00216525-00216944 dollars a year so over three years the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00863-00216944-00217171 MacArthur Foundation's 100 million 9BgOfz9MHd8-00864-00217173-00217400 dollars could accomplish what is that 9BgOfz9MHd8-00865-00217401-00217919 one 60th one six hundredth of that scale 9BgOfz9MHd8-00866-00217919-00218317 a hundred million dollars didn't do that 9BgOfz9MHd8-00867-00218319-00218630 much when you start looking at big work 9BgOfz9MHd8-00868-00218631-00218804 that needs to happen so there must be 9BgOfz9MHd8-00869-00218805-00219298 another way three out of four intro 9BgOfz9MHd8-00870-00219300-00219571 stories in the 1990s the Urban Institute 9BgOfz9MHd8-00871-00219573-00219803 went to Oakland California to study 9BgOfz9MHd8-00872-00219804-00220146 cultural participation among 9BgOfz9MHd8-00873-00220148-00220484 underprivileged communities so they sent 9BgOfz9MHd8-00874-00220485-00220667 field workers out to the streets and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00875-00220667-00220958 they said so where do you get your 9BgOfz9MHd8-00876-00220959-00221321 culture and they were met with blank 9BgOfz9MHd8-00877-00221321-00221692 stares people said we don't have that 9BgOfz9MHd8-00878-00221694-00222119 stuff around here sorry but to their 9BgOfz9MHd8-00879-00222119-00222458 credit the researchers went back to the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00880-00222459-00222725 lab and they asked the question a 9BgOfz9MHd8-00881-00222726-00222902 different way when they came back a few 9BgOfz9MHd8-00882-00222903-00223088 months later they said who are the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00883-00223089-00223333 creative people in your community 9BgOfz9MHd8-00884-00223334-00223531 and when they ask the question that way 9BgOfz9MHd8-00885-00223532-00223967 they received an outpouring of ideas and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00886-00223967-00224158 thoughts and excitement about the poets 9BgOfz9MHd8-00887-00224159-00224308 the rappers the artists the musicians 9BgOfz9MHd8-00888-00224309-00224800 the singers the writers the doers in 9BgOfz9MHd8-00889-00224801-00225062 their neighborhoods the problem wasn't 9BgOfz9MHd8-00890-00225063-00225277 that there weren't creative people in 9BgOfz9MHd8-00891-00225278-00225592 the community the problem was that 9BgOfz9MHd8-00892-00225594-00226000 people hadn't learned to associate their 9BgOfz9MHd8-00893-00226001-00226285 creative cultural daily lives the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00894-00226286-00226544 grammar of their daily lives with the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00895-00226544-00226744 institutions that were founded and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00896-00226746-00227424 funded over many years to serve them 9BgOfz9MHd8-00897-00227425-00227752 last intro story getting warmed up 9BgOfz9MHd8-00898-00227753-00228082 the snowpocalypse in Washington DC in 9BgOfz9MHd8-00899-00228083-00228419 2010 February 2010 I forget it was three 9BgOfz9MHd8-00900-00228419-00228604 feet of snow it's not much for Stockholm 9BgOfz9MHd8-00901-00228605-00229000 Sweden but it was a lot for us and it 9BgOfz9MHd8-00902-00229001-00229241 came on very quickly and some friends of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00903-00229242-00229423 mine were organizing a big technology 9BgOfz9MHd8-00904-00229424-00229756 conference for that weekend and many 9BgOfz9MHd8-00905-00229757-00229940 people had already arrived for their and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00906-00229941-00230227 I mean a big conference 2010 this is a 9BgOfz9MHd8-00907-00230228-00230444 little bit after the.com bubble burst 9BgOfz9MHd8-00908-00230444-00230669 but still a lot of money coming to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00909-00230669-00231025 Washington DC to meet and sell so people 9BgOfz9MHd8-00910-00231026-00231223 were stuck in hotel rooms the conference 9BgOfz9MHd8-00911-00231224-00231559 organizers canceled the conference I was 9BgOfz9MHd8-00912-00231560-00231754 drawn to you John and everyone god 9BgOfz9MHd8-00913-00231755-00231914 forbid something like that happens here 9BgOfz9MHd8-00914-00231915-00232054 but they canceled the conference the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00915-00232055-00232228 insurance policy for the conference 9BgOfz9MHd8-00916-00232229-00232477 kicked in said all of you organizers you 9BgOfz9MHd8-00917-00232478-00232645 have to put down your laptops and pens 9BgOfz9MHd8-00918-00232646-00232849 you can't do anything it's over 9BgOfz9MHd8-00919-00232850-00233437 but the attendees didn't get that memo 9BgOfz9MHd8-00920-00233438-00233740 so sitting around in their hotel rooms 9BgOfz9MHd8-00921-00233741-00234079 they created their own conference they 9BgOfz9MHd8-00922-00234080-00234385 created the unn tech 10 conference on 9BgOfz9MHd8-00923-00234386-00234856 the fly using free tools wiki's YouTube 9BgOfz9MHd8-00924-00234857-00235147 Facebook they somehow managed I forget 9BgOfz9MHd8-00925-00235148-00235439 what the live streaming app was at the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00926-00235440-00235657 time maybe not even an app but they made 9BgOfz9MHd8-00927-00235658-00235787 their own conference and most 9BgOfz9MHd8-00928-00235788-00235972 participants said it was better than the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00929-00235973-00236513 official one right house party beats you 9BgOfz9MHd8-00930-00236514-00236794 know a formal dinner any day of the week 9BgOfz9MHd8-00931-00236794-00237216 and the organizers were both enthralled 9BgOfz9MHd8-00932-00237217-00237448 because this was their community that 9BgOfz9MHd8-00933-00237448-00237613 was rising up and showing what they were 9BgOfz9MHd8-00934-00237614-00237901 made of and also terrified because the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00935-00237902-00238066 conference group spent a year and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00936-00238067-00238288 hundreds of thousands of dollars and a 9BgOfz9MHd8-00937-00238289-00238507 big team organizing this thing that the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00938-00238508-00238711 people did on their own better faster 9BgOfz9MHd8-00939-00238712-00239644 and cheaper this sound familiar so what 9BgOfz9MHd8-00940-00239644-00240103 do we take away from this there are many 9BgOfz9MHd8-00941-00240104-00240415 alternatives to top-down problem solving 9BgOfz9MHd8-00942-00240416-00240717 closer to the ground bottom-up 9BgOfz9MHd8-00943-00240717-00240994 distributed networked and local these 9BgOfz9MHd8-00944-00240994-00241171 are words that I've heard over the years 9BgOfz9MHd8-00945-00241171-00241465 as I've talked to people about what they 9BgOfz9MHd8-00946-00241466-00241705 do and how they work that I respond to a 9BgOfz9MHd8-00947-00241706-00241942 lot networked close to the ground 9BgOfz9MHd8-00948-00241942-00242385 bottom-up distributed to money's great 9BgOfz9MHd8-00949-00242386-00242650 I've seen a lot of projects fail for 9BgOfz9MHd8-00950-00242651-00242977 want of money but even large amounts of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00951-00242978-00243219 money under central control are not 9BgOfz9MHd8-00952-00243221-00243484 enough to solve certain kinds of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00953-00243485-00243673 problems and I am aware that I'm 9BgOfz9MHd8-00954-00243673-00243982 standing on a stage with an articulation 9BgOfz9MHd8-00955-00243983-00244269 of some of the greatest challenges we 9BgOfz9MHd8-00956-00244271-00244717 have as human beings now there's a 9BgOfz9MHd8-00957-00244717-00244963 tremendous potential and vitality in the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00958-00244964-00245179 know-how of communities and I'm using 9BgOfz9MHd8-00959-00245180-00245517 the word know-how very intentionally not 9BgOfz9MHd8-00960-00245519-00245962 expertise know-how with its connotation 9BgOfz9MHd8-00961-00245963-00246541 of doing relating so from this arises an 9BgOfz9MHd8-00962-00246542-00246823 obvious hypothesis it's probably one you 9BgOfz9MHd8-00963-00246823-00247015 came into this room today already 9BgOfz9MHd8-00964-00247016-00247339 thinking about it knowing huh I wonder I 9BgOfz9MHd8-00965-00247340-00247675 wonder if we can weave these ideas 9BgOfz9MHd8-00966-00247676-00247842 together these ways of thinking and 9BgOfz9MHd8-00967-00247844-00248403 doing into a form that helps all of us 9BgOfz9MHd8-00968-00248404-00248721 accomplish not only difficult work we 9BgOfz9MHd8-00969-00248723-00249055 know about but maybe even accomplished 9BgOfz9MHd8-00970-00249056-00249265 work we can't even understand now that 9BgOfz9MHd8-00971-00249266-00249692 nonetheless needs to be done so 9BgOfz9MHd8-00972-00249694-00250053 with that being said as an intro boom 9BgOfz9MHd8-00973-00250054-00250755 let's play so this next moment is going 9BgOfz9MHd8-00974-00250756-00251178 to be busy and frenetic I hope if you 9BgOfz9MHd8-00975-00251179-00251400 prefer not to engage in that kind of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00976-00251401-00251648 activity 9BgOfz9MHd8-00977-00251650-00252186 please just stay calm and be tolerant of 9BgOfz9MHd8-00978-00252187-00252521 the rest of us and if you have someone 9BgOfz9MHd8-00979-00252523-00252702 like that near you who does not wish to 9BgOfz9MHd8-00980-00252703-00252915 participate please respect their wishes 9BgOfz9MHd8-00981-00252916-00253185 absolutely I am by nature and incredibly 9BgOfz9MHd8-00982-00253186-00253560 shy introvert but I've learned to fake 9BgOfz9MHd8-00983-00253561-00253884 it because I believe that this stuff 9BgOfz9MHd8-00984-00253885-00254031 needs to happen so here's what we're 9BgOfz9MHd8-00985-00254032-00254361 gonna do my spirit animal says only if 9BgOfz9MHd8-00986-00254362-00254712 you enjoy this kind of activity rock 9BgOfz9MHd8-00987-00254713-00255027 paper scissors the rules 9BgOfz9MHd8-00988-00255028-00255521 rock paper all of these images by the 9BgOfz9MHd8-00989-00255523-00255726 way are in the Wikimedia Commons they're 9BgOfz9MHd8-00990-00255727-00255906 all properly cited at the bottom thanks 9BgOfz9MHd8-00991-00255907-00256398 to yep it's it's take a bow 9BgOfz9MHd8-00992-00256398-00257090 rock paper scissors rock beats paper 9BgOfz9MHd8-00993-00257091-00257538 paper beats scissors no no so did I do 9BgOfz9MHd8-00994-00257539-00257823 that wrong I did that on purpose to see 9BgOfz9MHd8-00995-00257823-00258234 if you were paying attention what did I 9BgOfz9MHd8-00996-00258235-00258519 say there that's awesome yeah yeah yeah 9BgOfz9MHd8-00997-00258519-00258678 okay so ignore the men on the stage you 9BgOfz9MHd8-00998-00258679-00259029 know how the game goes that's so funny 9BgOfz9MHd8-00999-00259030-00259142 that's what work that's what doing 9BgOfz9MHd8-01000-00259144-00259421 slides at 2:00 a.m. gets you okay so 9BgOfz9MHd8-01001-00259423-00259512 here are the rules here's what we're 9BgOfz9MHd8-01002-00259513-00259737 gonna do don't stand up yet everyone's 9BgOfz9MHd8-01003-00259738-00259977 going to stand up you're going to face 9BgOfz9MHd8-01004-00259978-00260355 your neighbor look them in the eye say 9BgOfz9MHd8-01005-00260356-00260811 hello we go one two three shoot where I 9BgOfz9MHd8-01006-00260812-00261075 come from so one two three shoot if you 9BgOfz9MHd8-01007-00261076-00261291 win stay standing up if you tie do it 9BgOfz9MHd8-01008-00261292-00261537 again if you lose sit down and then find 9BgOfz9MHd8-01009-00261538-00261789 someone else to compete with okay we're 9BgOfz9MHd8-01010-00261790-00262038 gonna have a Wikimania 2019 stockholm 9BgOfz9MHd8-01012-00268454-00271350 I love the sound that's happening 9BgOfz9MHd8-01013-00271351-00272476 do you need someone all right 9BgOfz9MHd8-01014-00272477-00273389 it's a pitched battle in the upper deck 9BgOfz9MHd8-01015-00273390-00273648 it looks it looks kind of like you're 9BgOfz9MHd8-01016-00273649-00274073 casting spells at each other - it's like 9BgOfz9MHd8-01017-00274074-00275317 expecto patronum 9BgOfz9MHd8-01018-00275318-00276184 oh boy 9BgOfz9MHd8-01019-00276185-00276979 I really like the long-distance spells 9BgOfz9MHd8-01020-00276980-00277339 do you have do have a section one winner 9BgOfz9MHd8-01021-00277340-00277750 Oh Oh brilliant all right 9BgOfz9MHd8-01022-00277751-00277993 are you still up oh look at this alright 9BgOfz9MHd8-01023-00277994-00278371 please no I'll fight it out do it long 9BgOfz9MHd8-01024-00278372-00278532 distance 9BgOfz9MHd8-01025-00278533-00279016 do we have an upper tier winner it's the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01026-00279017-00279181 upper tier washed out or you still 9BgOfz9MHd8-01027-00279182-00279298 duking it out up there 9BgOfz9MHd8-01028-00279299-00279778 I think the upper tier is done how does 9BgOfz9MHd8-01029-00279779-00279895 how are you guys up there do you have an 9BgOfz9MHd8-01030-00279896-00280369 upper deck winner in the cheap seats you 9BgOfz9MHd8-01031-00280370-00280525 all are looking great up there winner 9BgOfz9MHd8-01032-00280526-00280972 over here do we have here we go 9BgOfz9MHd8-01033-00280973-00281464 wait green shirt white shirt yeah or 9BgOfz9MHd8-01034-00281465-00281743 should I call it out I think this is the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01035-00281744-00281968 Oh three of you all right you two go 9BgOfz9MHd8-01036-00281969-00282739 first rock winds broccoli incite yeah 9BgOfz9MHd8-01037-00282740-00282994 Rock wraps around I mean I'm sorry paper 9BgOfz9MHd8-01038-00282995-00283372 wraps not Rock it's jet lag right okay 9BgOfz9MHd8-01039-00283373-00283993 so there here we go and is the Wikimedia 9BgOfz9MHd8-01040-00283994-00284164 community is pointing to a big winner 9BgOfz9MHd8-01041-00284165-00284521 okay up there standing yes here okay 9BgOfz9MHd8-01042-00284522-00284770 this is it I'm gonna call oh no down 9BgOfz9MHd8-01043-00284771-00285289 here you two ready 1 2 3 shoot 9BgOfz9MHd8-01044-00285290-00286713 oh go ahead scissors scissors 9BgOfz9MHd8-01045-00286714-00287116 Scissors rock rock rock 9BgOfz9MHd8-01046-00287117-00287352 one more okay this is it last one 9BgOfz9MHd8-01047-00287353-00287581 section one cheap seats 9BgOfz9MHd8-01048-00287582-00287845 you still going oh you're the best you 9BgOfz9MHd8-01049-00287846-00288550 to quickly go paper wins and then up 9BgOfz9MHd8-01050-00288551-00288754 there last go ready 9BgOfz9MHd8-01051-00288755-00288910 can you see each other you need 9BgOfz9MHd8-01052-00288911-00289786 binoculars in this place okay yeah call 9BgOfz9MHd8-01053-00289787-00290212 it out scream it that looks like 9BgOfz9MHd8-01054-00290213-00290566 scissors and scissors again this is 9BgOfz9MHd8-01055-00290567-00290895 brutal 9BgOfz9MHd8-01056-00290896-00291112 paper paper 9BgOfz9MHd8-01057-00291113-00291436 ah the sweets the Swedes are all about 9BgOfz9MHd8-01058-00291437-00292560 nods you first please rock scissors rock 9BgOfz9MHd8-01059-00292561-00293107 that was thank you for indulging me and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01060-00293108-00293284 enjoying that in the spirit of it so 9BgOfz9MHd8-01061-00293285-00293506 this rock paper scissors this played in 9BgOfz9MHd8-01062-00293507-00293794 many many places or this is another 9BgOfz9MHd8-01063-00293795-00294049 Commons photograph this is from Myanmar 9BgOfz9MHd8-01064-00294050-00294307 some really cute little dudes playing 9BgOfz9MHd8-01065-00294308-00294613 away it's also an ancient game this is a 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9BgOfz9MHd8-01079-00298306-00298564 there's a game show in the Philippines 9BgOfz9MHd8-01080-00298565-00298855 jackpot n poi that is super hardcore 9BgOfz9MHd8-01081-00298856-00299143 they really amp it up with music and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01082-00299144-00299269 there's a big prize I think the winner 9BgOfz9MHd8-01083-00299270-00299535 wins $10,000 in each episode 9BgOfz9MHd8-01084-00299536-00299814 Hey and Wikimedia this is from Accra 9BgOfz9MHd8-01085-00299815-00300228 Ghana the wiki in dhaba 2017 anyone here 9BgOfz9MHd8-01086-00300229-00300552 from that gang is there a winner do we 9BgOfz9MHd8-01087-00300553-00300876 have a ringer from this competition 9BgOfz9MHd8-01088-00300877-00301233 and here Adrian and Leon two of your own 9BgOfz9MHd8-01089-00301234-00301518 I was working on slides in the in the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01090-00301519-00301682 lobby the other night and they were 9BgOfz9MHd8-01091-00301683-00302079 solving turn-taking or card drawing in 9BgOfz9MHd8-01092-00302080-00302163 the game they are playing with 9BgOfz9MHd8-01093-00302164-00302334 rock-paper-scissors and I asked if I 9BgOfz9MHd8-01094-00302335-00302547 could hang out with them and film I 9BgOfz9MHd8-01095-00302548-00302664 think that came out really well I like 9BgOfz9MHd8-01096-00302665-00303081 the blur it's just very fast this is a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01097-00303082-00303432 good one too this is Jimmy Fallon an 9BgOfz9MHd8-01098-00303433-00303753 American television host kind of a goof 9BgOfz9MHd8-01099-00303754-00304086 goofy guy has they bring onstage 9BgOfz9MHd8-01100-00304087-00304575 Sofia who is a robot dressed up a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01101-00304576-00304934 physically human-like robot who uses 9BgOfz9MHd8-01102-00304935-00305187 algorithmic intelligence in her front 9BgOfz9MHd8-01103-00305188-00305499 end and they had this encounter together 9BgOfz9MHd8-01104-00305500-00305804 on stage and you can see Jimmy Fallon is 9BgOfz9MHd8-01105-00305805-00306282 very unnerved by this person this entity 9BgOfz9MHd8-01106-00306283-00306615 in front of him this this robot and they 9BgOfz9MHd8-01107-00306616-00306891 play rock paper scissors and he's he 9BgOfz9MHd8-01108-00306892-00307161 looks like he's about to scream and run 9BgOfz9MHd8-01109-00307162-00307377 out of the room at any second there's 9BgOfz9MHd8-01110-00307378-00307845 something about play that's leveling a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01111-00307846-00308127 way of interacting even between two a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01112-00308128-00308721 species and a artificial entity and then 9BgOfz9MHd8-01113-00308722-00310739 there's this 9BgOfz9MHd8-01114-00310740-00310992 the robot says I got you all day 9BgOfz9MHd8-01115-00310993-00311150 [Laughter] 9BgOfz9MHd8-01116-00311151-00312290 bring it on human 9BgOfz9MHd8-01117-00312291-00312627 so this is thinking yeah I think they 9BgOfz9MHd8-01118-00312628-00312983 deserve a him this video is with 9BgOfz9MHd8-01119-00312984-00313355 specially give special permission to us 9BgOfz9MHd8-01120-00313356-00313547 at this conference in the rebroadcast 9BgOfz9MHd8-01121-00313548-00313977 from the Ishikawa Sen new laboratory at 9BgOfz9MHd8-01122-00313978-00314175 the University of Tokyo what's happening 9BgOfz9MHd8-01123-00314176-00314405 is there's a high-speed camera that 9BgOfz9MHd8-01124-00314406-00314707 sense is what you're going to do 9BgOfz9MHd8-01125-00314708-00315083 processes it throws the robot fingers in 9BgOfz9MHd8-01126-00315084-00315206 a millisecond 9BgOfz9MHd8-01127-00315207-00315498 that's the loop which is hundreds of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01128-00315499-00315837 times faster than our kind of slow Homo 9BgOfz9MHd8-01129-00315838-00316082 Sapien sapient brains are doing that 9BgOfz9MHd8-01130-00316083-00316382 gummy thing that we do in space and so 9BgOfz9MHd8-01131-00316383-00316610 there's there's a there's a point to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01132-00316611-00316950 this this exercise this laughter this 9BgOfz9MHd8-01133-00316951-00317076 playing I don't know about you but I 9BgOfz9MHd8-01134-00317077-00317384 feel very different now having laughed 9BgOfz9MHd8-01135-00317385-00317643 and walked around and seen some of you 9BgOfz9MHd8-01136-00317644-00317831 face to face and met some of you face to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01137-00317832-00318138 face than I did 15 minutes ago ten 9BgOfz9MHd8-01138-00318139-00318492 minutes ago the neuro psychology of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01139-00318493-00318651 laughter tells us that laughter 9BgOfz9MHd8-01140-00318652-00318934 stimulates both sides of the brain 9BgOfz9MHd8-01141-00318935-00319218 activates the limbic system connects the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01142-00319219-00319505 right and left hemispheres humor 9BgOfz9MHd8-01143-00319506-00319791 releases tension which can and this is a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01144-00319792-00320189 nice phrase they can lead to perceptual 9BgOfz9MHd8-01145-00320190-00320622 flexibility huh flexibility 9BgOfz9MHd8-01146-00320623-00320857 many of the games used in 9BgOfz9MHd8-01147-00320858-00321165 improvisational comedy training this 9BgOfz9MHd8-01148-00321166-00321429 article notes can be used in product 9BgOfz9MHd8-01149-00321430-00321731 design or problem solving processes to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01150-00321732-00322077 promote associative thinking teams that 9BgOfz9MHd8-01151-00322078-00322406 do this kind of play before working on 9BgOfz9MHd8-01152-00322407-00322629 difficult challenges dramatically 9BgOfz9MHd8-01153-00322630-00322923 outperform those that do not in study 9BgOfz9MHd8-01154-00322924-00323381 after study Atul Gawande the surgeon and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01155-00323382-00323778 writer in his book cognitive I'm sorry 9BgOfz9MHd8-01156-00323779-00323922 not cognitive surplus the checklist 9BgOfz9MHd8-01157-00323923-00324276 manifesto tells of an experiment done in 9BgOfz9MHd8-01158-00324277-00324506 surgical operating rooms around the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01159-00324507-00324873 world his challenge was how do we solve 9BgOfz9MHd8-01160-00324874-00325016 the difficult problem of how to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01161-00325017-00325371 dramatically decrease complications 9BgOfz9MHd8-01162-00325372-00325594 arising from surgery 9BgOfz9MHd8-01163-00325595-00325873 the thing they found that worked the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01164-00325874-00326155 best the most reliably was to have each 9BgOfz9MHd8-01165-00326156-00326473 member of a surgical team introduce 9BgOfz9MHd8-01166-00326474-00326746 themselves say their name and what they 9BgOfz9MHd8-01167-00326747-00326965 were doing in today's operation that's 9BgOfz9MHd8-01168-00326966-00327154 all they did they went around in a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01169-00327155-00327397 circle and faced each other as 9BgOfz9MHd8-01170-00327398-00327561 colleagues and introduced themselves 9BgOfz9MHd8-01171-00327562-00327862 Gawande says that there's an activation 9BgOfz9MHd8-01172-00327863-00328270 phenomenon among groups that open 9BgOfz9MHd8-01173-00328271-00328522 themselves up into their small public 9BgOfz9MHd8-01174-00328523-00328957 sphere together after three months of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01175-00328958-00329257 doing these introductions surgical teams 9BgOfz9MHd8-01176-00329258-00329500 reported they functioned as a well 9BgOfz9MHd8-01177-00329501-00329893 coordinated team prior to the study 68% 9BgOfz9MHd8-01178-00329894-00330181 of the time after the study 92% of the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01179-00330182-00330738 time and it doesn't cost a thing so the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01180-00330739-00331174 infrastructure of play of dialogue of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01181-00331175-00331507 conviviality that supports solving 9BgOfz9MHd8-01182-00331508-00331876 difficult problems can be designed for 9BgOfz9MHd8-01183-00331877-00332188 I've become a student of the body 9BgOfz9MHd8-01184-00332189-00332494 language of participation to look for 9BgOfz9MHd8-01185-00332495-00332713 ways in which teams working on difficult 9BgOfz9MHd8-01186-00332714-00333088 problems laugh and play together these 9BgOfz9MHd8-01187-00333089-00333346 effects can be designed for they can 9BgOfz9MHd8-01188-00333347-00333703 also be died on the vine if they are 9BgOfz9MHd8-01189-00333704-00334024 neglected I read recently that when one 9BgOfz9MHd8-01190-00334025-00334336 Shops at a farmers market one has ten 9BgOfz9MHd8-01191-00334337-00334621 times more personal interactions with 9BgOfz9MHd8-01192-00334622-00334822 one's neighbors than if you shop at a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01193-00334823-00335116 chain store that's a simple kind of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01194-00335117-00335428 Civic design with a dramatic impact on 9BgOfz9MHd8-01195-00335429-00335659 some of the sustainability sustainable 9BgOfz9MHd8-01196-00335660-00335818 development goals that involve 9BgOfz9MHd8-01197-00335819-00336121 loneliness the development of cities 9BgOfz9MHd8-01198-00336122-00336582 neighborhoods longevity and health yes 9BgOfz9MHd8-01199-00336583-00336913 spirit animal Petronas says this can be 9BgOfz9MHd8-01200-00336914-00337495 designed for but only if design is 9BgOfz9MHd8-01201-00337496-00337858 allowed to happen early and often 9BgOfz9MHd8-01202-00337859-00338065 throughout the life of a project and I 9BgOfz9MHd8-01203-00338066-00338298 use that word very intentionally allowed 9BgOfz9MHd8-01204-00338299-00338701 allowed to happen it's not a commandment 9BgOfz9MHd8-01205-00338702-00339088 it's it's an openness and a welcoming to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01206-00339089-00339445 participate to co-create early often and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01207-00339446-00339646 playfully when solving difficult 9BgOfz9MHd8-01208-00339647-00340204 problems like these guys yeah these are 9BgOfz9MHd8-01209-00340205-00340495 the 2030 goals the sustainable 9BgOfz9MHd8-01210-00340496-00340693 development goals and they are the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01211-00340694-00341143 underlying theme of Wikimania much to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01212-00341144-00341404 the credit of your community and your 9BgOfz9MHd8-01213-00341405-00341830 local organizers these goals were 9BgOfz9MHd8-01214-00341831-00342084 designed with a lot of input from around 9BgOfz9MHd8-01215-00342085-00342490 the world but they're hard to play with 9BgOfz9MHd8-01216-00342491-00342748 their infrastructure and position is 9BgOfz9MHd8-01217-00342749-00343045 about governance and messaging they're 9BgOfz9MHd8-01218-00343046-00343246 hard to play with though I know many of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01219-00343247-00343509 you in this room have worked on ways to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01220-00343510-00343894 open them up to play so we have now that 9BgOfz9MHd8-01221-00343895-00344207 we're warmed up you know that guy whoops 9BgOfz9MHd8-01222-00344208-00344353 there we go 9BgOfz9MHd8-01223-00344354-00344752 you know that guy now that we're warmed 9BgOfz9MHd8-01224-00344753-00345054 up we've faced each other a little bit 9BgOfz9MHd8-01225-00345055-00345364 I'm going to have an assignment to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01226-00345365-00345601 request an openness for you you have 9BgOfz9MHd8-01227-00345602-00346497 these little printouts in your seats 9BgOfz9MHd8-01228-00346498-00346833 near your seats of the sustainable 9BgOfz9MHd8-01229-00346834-00347115 development goals these were made with a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01230-00347116-00347617 template of a hand stamp sort of some of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01231-00347618-00347784 you may have seen me in the the hotel 9BgOfz9MHd8-01232-00347785-00347971 lobby yesterday stamping these out by 9BgOfz9MHd8-01233-00347972-00348196 the way I'm exhausted it's like I feel 9BgOfz9MHd8-01234-00348197-00348652 like I did a thousand push-ups what I 9BgOfz9MHd8-01235-00348653-00349260 would like you to do is we're going to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01236-00349261-00349659 take a few minutes look at these goals 9BgOfz9MHd8-01237-00349660-00349999 front and back if you can't read one of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01238-00350000-00350188 them they're not perfect ask a neighbor 9BgOfz9MHd8-01239-00350189-00350419 compare most of them are different I 9BgOfz9MHd8-01240-00350420-00350650 think there's 60 or 70 different prints 9BgOfz9MHd8-01241-00350651-00351004 that are circulating and I want you to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01242-00351005-00351366 think about these not don't analyze them 9BgOfz9MHd8-01243-00351367-00351744 don't think about which is the best 9BgOfz9MHd8-01244-00351745-00352066 think about one that means something to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01245-00352067-00352260 you and your personal life your lived 9BgOfz9MHd8-01246-00352261-00352602 experience that you have a story about 9BgOfz9MHd8-01247-00352603-00353178 I'm going to pause for a minute and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01248-00353179-00353512 let's see where that leads think of a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01249-00353513-00353746 story one of these that you relate to as 9BgOfz9MHd8-01251-00358928-00359480 now if you and only if you enjoy this 9BgOfz9MHd8-01252-00359481-00359925 kind of interaction I want you to face 9BgOfz9MHd8-01253-00359926-00360250 your former adversaries 9BgOfz9MHd8-01254-00360251-00360498 rock-paper-scissors tournament just two 9BgOfz9MHd8-01255-00360499-00360776 or three of you at a time and just tell 9BgOfz9MHd8-01256-00360777-00360969 each other say hi if you don't know each 9BgOfz9MHd8-01257-00360970-00361178 other's names say each other's names and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01258-00361179-00361296 just tell each other that share that 9BgOfz9MHd8-01259-00361297-00361427 story say it out loud 9BgOfz9MHd8-01260-00361428-00361625 what is the story and what gold does it 9BgOfz9MHd8-01261-00361626-00361938 relate to go ahead I'll give you a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01263-00369636-00372561 Asli Asli 9BgOfz9MHd8-01264-00372562-00372957 that conversation is like music it 9BgOfz9MHd8-01265-00372958-00375445 sounds so good 9BgOfz9MHd8-01266-00375446-00375735 I keep listening I keep listening for 9BgOfz9MHd8-01267-00375736-00375919 that that moment when you're done and I 9BgOfz9MHd8-01268-00375920-00378489 don't think it's going to happen 9BgOfz9MHd8-01269-00378490-00378750 okay 9BgOfz9MHd8-01270-00378751-00379206 we found I would like to hear some of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01271-00379207-00379740 the stories and I would like to hear all 9BgOfz9MHd8-01272-00379741-00380004 of the stories actually and actually 9BgOfz9MHd8-01273-00380005-00380694 there is a way Liam Liam created 9BgOfz9MHd8-01274-00380695-00380982 I asked Liam what what is what would be 9BgOfz9MHd8-01275-00380983-00381201 a wiki media community way of sharing 9BgOfz9MHd8-01276-00381202-00381522 these stories he said how on a wiki um 9BgOfz9MHd8-01277-00381523-00381747 so Liam if you go to the today's program 9BgOfz9MHd8-01278-00381748-00382146 page and you search for my name in this 9BgOfz9MHd8-01279-00382147-00382320 session and there's a link share your 9BgOfz9MHd8-01280-00382321-00382644 story that goes to this page but I would 9BgOfz9MHd8-01281-00382645-00382905 also be happy to hear your story in 9BgOfz9MHd8-01282-00382906-00383220 person you can also write it to the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01283-00383221-00383373 platform of your choice and tag it 9BgOfz9MHd8-01284-00383374-00383721 Wikimania will find it you can email me 9BgOfz9MHd8-01285-00383722-00383940 I'm easy to find but but we found with 9BgOfz9MHd8-01286-00383941-00384231 Eric and and Liam's help we have a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01287-00384232-00384402 couple of microphones and I'd really 9BgOfz9MHd8-01288-00384403-00384675 like to hear one or two or three of the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01289-00384676-00384969 stories just really really quickly and I 9BgOfz9MHd8-01290-00384970-00385344 think I'm gonna let you guys sort it out 9BgOfz9MHd8-01291-00385345-00385632 it's hard to see up here Liam do you 9BgOfz9MHd8-01292-00385633-00386330 want to and if you yep please all right 9BgOfz9MHd8-01293-00386331-00386622 speak now yes yes please all right hello 9BgOfz9MHd8-01294-00386623-00386889 I'm Lucas I'm a Wikipedian from Germany 9BgOfz9MHd8-01295-00386890-00387279 and not at this conference about four 9BgOfz9MHd8-01296-00387280-00387600 years ago at Wikimania 2015 I asked 9BgOfz9MHd8-01297-00387601-00387801 myself what we as Wikimedia movement are 9BgOfz9MHd8-01298-00387802-00388095 doing to reduce our negative impact on 9BgOfz9MHd8-01299-00388096-00388290 the environment and the answer was 9BgOfz9MHd8-01300-00388291-00388542 nothing and that when I returned home 9BgOfz9MHd8-01301-00388543-00388764 from that conference four years ago a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01302-00388765-00388962 wee comedian friend and I we started 9BgOfz9MHd8-01303-00388963-00389084 what is called the Wikimedia 9BgOfz9MHd8-01304-00389085-00389355 sustainability initiative and this 9BgOfz9MHd8-01305-00389356-00389451 initiative 9BgOfz9MHd8-01306-00389452-00389784 it calls reduce the amount of carbon 9BgOfz9MHd8-01307-00389785-00390027 emissions that we create by running the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01308-00390028-00390225 service by running by hosting events 9BgOfz9MHd8-01309-00390226-00390554 like this and we are calling for 9BgOfz9MHd8-01310-00390555-00390756 sustainable investment of moving 9BgOfz9MHd8-01311-00390757-00391230 resources and in that way I think this 9BgOfz9MHd8-01312-00391231-00391400 this initiative touches on a lot of the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01313-00391401-00391794 sustainable development goals so from 9BgOfz9MHd8-01314-00391795-00392055 hunger to clean water clean energy 9BgOfz9MHd8-01315-00392056-00392376 to climate action of course life below 9BgOfz9MHd8-01316-00392377-00392547 water on land and of course partnership 9BgOfz9MHd8-01317-00392548-00392718 we because we need to do that together 9BgOfz9MHd8-01318-00392719-00393156 and now at today the Wikimedia 9BgOfz9MHd8-01319-00393157-00393378 sustainability ship is supported by over 9BgOfz9MHd8-01320-00393379-00393636 500 we keep median volunteers and staff 9BgOfz9MHd8-01321-00393637-00393882 members over the world and I'm very 9BgOfz9MHd8-01322-00393883-00394092 happy that in 2017 the Wikimedia 9BgOfz9MHd8-01323-00394093-00394284 Foundation said yes this is important we 9BgOfz9MHd8-01324-00394285-00394446 need to do something about this and on 9BgOfz9MHd8-01325-00394447-00394662 Sunday in the environment conference 9BgOfz9MHd8-01326-00394663-00394949 track the Wikimedia Foundation will 9BgOfz9MHd8-01327-00394950-00395244 present its first-ever sustainability 9BgOfz9MHd8-01328-00395245-00395370 report and I'm very happy and very 9BgOfz9MHd8-01329-00395371-00395658 excited to see what then leads from it 9BgOfz9MHd8-01330-00395659-00395793 and what we're going to do about this 9BgOfz9MHd8-01331-00395794-00396501 thank you thank you thank you if we had 9BgOfz9MHd8-01332-00396502-00396696 time I'd ask you what it was that caused 9BgOfz9MHd8-01333-00396697-00396930 you to have that that question you asked 9BgOfz9MHd8-01334-00396931-00397781 yourself another one Eric are you hello 9BgOfz9MHd8-01335-00397782-00398316 hello my name is Anna and I have in my 9BgOfz9MHd8-01336-00398317-00398943 hand the SDG to zero hunger which 9BgOfz9MHd8-01337-00398944-00399336 relates to the eradication of all forms 9BgOfz9MHd8-01338-00399337-00399645 of malnutrition but also to ensure food 9BgOfz9MHd8-01339-00399646-00400116 security to all this SDG is is for me 9BgOfz9MHd8-01340-00400117-00400383 one of the SDG so well not just for me 9BgOfz9MHd8-01341-00400384-00400610 is one of the SDS it is that it's very 9BgOfz9MHd8-01342-00400611-00400965 transversal to all STDs and he somehow 9BgOfz9MHd8-01343-00400966-00401319 the story of my life and on my work as 9BgOfz9MHd8-01344-00401320-00401697 so far that relates to nutrition this as 9BgOfz9MHd8-01345-00401698-00402021 its talks very strong to my mind to my 9BgOfz9MHd8-01346-00402022-00402327 heart and to my belly and the value of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01347-00402328-00402537 the many million people I have seen 9BgOfz9MHd8-01348-00402538-00402870 around in the world working as 9BgOfz9MHd8-01349-00402871-00403194 humanitarian nutritionists for the last 9BgOfz9MHd8-01350-00403195-00403656 15 years there and also back home in 9BgOfz9MHd8-01351-00403657-00403920 Guatemala where I come from and where 9BgOfz9MHd8-01352-00403921-00404168 the vast majority of people has 9BgOfz9MHd8-01353-00404169-00404583 experience one of the different a crates 9BgOfz9MHd8-01354-00404584-00404877 off of my nutrition there is where I 9BgOfz9MHd8-01355-00404878-00405150 have evidence how aberrant my nutrition 9BgOfz9MHd8-01356-00405151-00405364 is and jeopardize 9BgOfz9MHd8-01357-00405365-00405717 the fulfillment of any of the other STDs 9BgOfz9MHd8-01358-00405718-00406204 there I observe women who are normally 9BgOfz9MHd8-01359-00406205-00406492 those who are mostly affected by my 9BgOfz9MHd8-01360-00406493-00406810 nutrition when they have they raise 9BgOfz9MHd8-01361-00406811-00407074 children these children are very likely 9BgOfz9MHd8-01362-00407075-00407443 to be undernourished children that are 9BgOfz9MHd8-01363-00407444-00407734 undernourished are going to experience a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01364-00407735-00407920 lot of difficulty to learn in this 9BgOfz9MHd8-01365-00407921-00408103 school if they are lucky to go to the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01366-00408104-00408406 school otherwise they will have a lot of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01367-00408407-00408748 challenges to to produce cognitively 9BgOfz9MHd8-01368-00408749-00409060 with labour with their force so they are 9BgOfz9MHd8-01369-00409061-00409348 going to be in this aberrant cycle of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01370-00409349-00409801 economic dependence also on top of this 9BgOfz9MHd8-01371-00409802-00410032 these undernourished children were 9BgOfz9MHd8-01372-00410033-00410370 adults they are very likely to develop 9BgOfz9MHd8-01373-00410371-00410697 some of the diseases as I associated to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01374-00410699-00411063 malnutrition such as obesity overweight 9BgOfz9MHd8-01375-00411064-00411247 cardiovascular diseases diabetes 9BgOfz9MHd8-01376-00411247-00411688 mellitus and if we make a little bit of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01377-00411689-00411993 the logical cycle these arrows are again 9BgOfz9MHd8-01378-00411995-00412335 very likely to raise children with 9BgOfz9MHd8-01379-00412337-00412764 similar conditions so as you see this is 9BgOfz9MHd8-01380-00412766-00413155 DG malnutrition hunger is so powerful 9BgOfz9MHd8-01381-00413156-00413578 and it touches everybody every country 9BgOfz9MHd8-01382-00413579-00413907 everywhere in this planet so I really 9BgOfz9MHd8-01383-00413908-00414205 wish to have these scissors that are 9BgOfz9MHd8-01384-00414206-00414499 there and just cut and eradicate as the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01385-00414500-00414609 acidity 9BgOfz9MHd8-01386-00414610-00414964 well not the SDG they hunger with a lot 9BgOfz9MHd8-01387-00414964-00415434 of very incisive ly thank you yeah thank 9BgOfz9MHd8-01388-00415435-00416008 you one more 9BgOfz9MHd8-01389-00416009-00416389 hello Florence I said a sentence that 9BgOfz9MHd8-01390-00416391-00416672 really ring the bell in my mind that was 9BgOfz9MHd8-01391-00416672-00417022 if design is allowed to happen early I 9BgOfz9MHd8-01392-00417024-00417332 was thinking one of the key feature key 9BgOfz9MHd8-01393-00417333-00417509 design feature of Wikipedia from the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01394-00417510-00417835 start was to allow anyone to participate 9BgOfz9MHd8-01395-00417837-00418084 yeah that was the key design feature and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01396-00418085-00418457 I often said no one knows everything but 9BgOfz9MHd8-01397-00418458-00418739 everyone knows something but at the same 9BgOfz9MHd8-01398-00418739-00419039 time I for me I joined I'm French I 9BgOfz9MHd8-01399-00419039-00419387 joined Wikipedia 18 years ago and when I 9BgOfz9MHd8-01400-00419388-00419689 did for over one year I was the only 9BgOfz9MHd8-01401-00419691-00420155 women in the French speaking space and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01402-00420156-00420383 no one really seemed to care and it was 9BgOfz9MHd8-01403-00420384-00420514 absolutely not discussed there was 9BgOfz9MHd8-01404-00420516-00420758 nothing being done about that and that 9BgOfz9MHd8-01405-00420759-00421039 changed and the first signal for change 9BgOfz9MHd8-01406-00421041-00421243 was actually during which ammonia that 9BgOfz9MHd8-01407-00421245-00421614 was um with ammonia Taiwan which was in 9BgOfz9MHd8-01408-00421616-00422006 2007 and at that time we had the first 9BgOfz9MHd8-01409-00422007-00422429 wiki woman lunch guess how many people 9BgOfz9MHd8-01410-00422430-00422789 were there at that lunch give me a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01411-00422789-00422917 figure 9BgOfz9MHd8-01412-00422918-00423392 no it was not so bad actually but it was 9BgOfz9MHd8-01413-00423393-00423809 still quite bad we were 12 right so we 9BgOfz9MHd8-01414-00423810-00424055 were around a round table and the 12 of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01415-00424056-00424256 us together and I think there are three 9BgOfz9MHd8-01416-00424257-00424475 of us left probably should be in the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01417-00424476-00424700 room there's Phoebe maybe Phoebe's 9BgOfz9MHd8-01418-00424701-00424856 around and there's Delphine 9BgOfz9MHd8-01419-00424857-00425047 maybe Delphine is around yeah I see 9BgOfz9MHd8-01420-00425049-00425327 Delphine is there Phoebe Phoebe had yeah 9BgOfz9MHd8-01421-00425328-00425564 Phoebe so yeah we were I think no one 9BgOfz9MHd8-01422-00425564-00425720 else am I forgetting someone 9BgOfz9MHd8-01423-00425721-00425966 yeah so we worked we were twelve at that 9BgOfz9MHd8-01424-00425967-00426214 time and that was probably one of the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01425-00426216-00426428 first discussion we had where we tried 9BgOfz9MHd8-01426-00426429-00426782 to design a very strategy to get women 9BgOfz9MHd8-01427-00426783-00427114 in and thing Wow 9BgOfz9MHd8-01428-00427116-00427310 twelve people my friends that was really 9BgOfz9MHd8-01429-00427310-00427652 not a lot look where we are now so I 9BgOfz9MHd8-01430-00427653-00427856 fear I might not be at the next wiki 9BgOfz9MHd8-01431-00427857-00428075 women lunch because they added a wiki 9BgOfz9MHd8-01432-00428076-00428330 manya comedy but nevertheless there is a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01433-00428331-00428588 wiki woman lunch today so please get 9BgOfz9MHd8-01434-00428589-00428858 there and count yourself 9BgOfz9MHd8-01435-00428859-00429107 so that in a few years we can say what's 9BgOfz9MHd8-01436-00429108-00429329 the difference but in any cases after 9BgOfz9MHd8-01437-00429330-00429578 that lunch there was so many initiative 9BgOfz9MHd8-01438-00429579-00429868 that erupted around the world so I might 9BgOfz9MHd8-01439-00429870-00430100 mention a few ones I started wiki loves 9BgOfz9MHd8-01440-00430101-00430147 women 9BgOfz9MHd8-01441-00430149-00430376 I joined listen perish in the French 9BgOfz9MHd8-01442-00430377-00430679 space there is often women in of course 9BgOfz9MHd8-01443-00430680-00430895 women in red with Rosie probably in the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01444-00430896-00431068 room as well they are art and feminism 9BgOfz9MHd8-01445-00431070-00431335 there's wiki donators yeah from Camila 9BgOfz9MHd8-01446-00431337-00431525 is around as well so there's so many 9BgOfz9MHd8-01447-00431526-00431741 many different project that arise and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01448-00431742-00432029 that really push things so that now can 9BgOfz9MHd8-01449-00432030-00432353 be super super proud of our work and we 9BgOfz9MHd8-01450-00432354-00433818 need to continue thank you so whoops 9BgOfz9MHd8-01451-00433820-00434078 we've done these workshops these 9BgOfz9MHd8-01452-00434079-00434321 conversations all over the world it 9BgOfz9MHd8-01453-00434322-00434531 often we're not often asked to tell 9BgOfz9MHd8-01454-00434532-00434732 stories or relate to big ideas through 9BgOfz9MHd8-01455-00434733-00435146 stories this was a workshop we did in 9BgOfz9MHd8-01456-00435147-00435599 Rio de Janeiro among some people in very 9BgOfz9MHd8-01457-00435600-00435787 difficult circumstances in their lives 9BgOfz9MHd8-01458-00435788-00436097 we've done workshops with kids working 9BgOfz9MHd8-01459-00436097-00436517 through the the big ideas of the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01460-00436518-00436745 sustainability sustainable development 9BgOfz9MHd8-01461-00436746-00436928 goals and their own life stories through 9BgOfz9MHd8-01462-00436929-00437189 Lego play I'll tell the little story 9BgOfz9MHd8-01463-00437189-00437822 about that later and if you think back 9BgOfz9MHd8-01464-00437822-00438209 on what what we just did to transition 9BgOfz9MHd8-01465-00438210-00438554 into the next part of this this talk 9BgOfz9MHd8-01466-00438555-00438875 this presentation the director of the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01467-00438876-00439103 Copenhagen public library said we can do 9BgOfz9MHd8-01468-00439104-00439316 programs all day long where we put 9BgOfz9MHd8-01469-00439317-00439559 someone on a stage and people come and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01470-00439560-00439913 relate to them like spokes in a hub now 9BgOfz9MHd8-01471-00439914-00440068 we're trying to do programs that help 9BgOfz9MHd8-01472-00440070-00440354 people face each other because these are 9BgOfz9MHd8-01473-00440355-00440585 the relationships and the citizens and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01474-00440585-00440981 the young people and old people who are 9BgOfz9MHd8-01475-00440982-00441470 the source of society of humanity and of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01476-00441471-00441803 solving these making communities better 9BgOfz9MHd8-01477-00441804-00442145 so we played we got our hearts going we 9BgOfz9MHd8-01478-00442146-00442247 faced each other 9BgOfz9MHd8-01479-00442248-00442383 talked we thought about our own lives 9BgOfz9MHd8-01480-00442384-00442629 and we had hopefully approached these or 9BgOfz9MHd8-01481-00442630-00442767 thought about these or you would have to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01482-00442768-00442922 look at these goals a little differently 9BgOfz9MHd8-01483-00442923-00443168 knowing that it was about you and not 9BgOfz9MHd8-01484-00443170-00443472 about the UN or the museum or the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01485-00443472-00444066 government so I got an email one day I 9BgOfz9MHd8-01486-00444067-00444213 was at the Smithsonian Institution 9BgOfz9MHd8-01487-00444214-00444603 having a tough day and I got an email 9BgOfz9MHd8-01488-00444604-00444954 dear mr. Edson would you please join us 9BgOfz9MHd8-01489-00444955-00445191 at the would you please I know it's an 9BgOfz9MHd8-01490-00445192-00445385 inconvenience join us at the United 9BgOfz9MHd8-01491-00445387-00445785 Nations in New York next week to help 9BgOfz9MHd8-01492-00445785-00446093 create the vision for a new museum for 9BgOfz9MHd8-01493-00446095-00446309 all of humanity 9BgOfz9MHd8-01494-00446310-00446574 the goal of which will be to involve 9BgOfz9MHd8-01495-00446575-00446870 people everywhere to solve the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01496-00446871-00447099 sustainable development goals to act on 9BgOfz9MHd8-01497-00447100-00447351 them the we think of this as a museum on 9BgOfz9MHd8-01498-00447352-00447627 three platforms a physical building 9BgOfz9MHd8-01499-00447628-00448158 Civic Center lab hub in first in 9BgOfz9MHd8-01500-00448159-00448413 Copenhagen but then maybe in other 9BgOfz9MHd8-01501-00448414-00448581 places in the world if they need it 9BgOfz9MHd8-01502-00448582-00449259 a digital presence and of course a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01503-00449260-00449435 network of people and partner 9BgOfz9MHd8-01504-00449437-00449625 institutions spanning the whole world so 9BgOfz9MHd8-01505-00449626-00449850 if you're not too busy we know it's an 9BgOfz9MHd8-01506-00449851-00449982 inconvenience would you please come to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01507-00449983-00450204 New York to help us and I I took a walk 9BgOfz9MHd8-01508-00450205-00450410 around the block to calm myself down and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01509-00450412-00450633 check the email five times to make sure 9BgOfz9MHd8-01510-00450634-00450839 it was addressed to me and I typed back 9BgOfz9MHd8-01511-00450841-00451062 yes I think I can fit that into my 9BgOfz9MHd8-01512-00451063-00451439 schedule so I went to New York and then 9BgOfz9MHd8-01513-00451441-00451925 I went online to see what I could learn 9BgOfz9MHd8-01514-00451926-00452442 the UN was founded in 1945 to prevent 9BgOfz9MHd8-01515-00452443-00452718 another global war in the aftermath of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01516-00452718-00453180 World War two 51 Nations signed the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01517-00453181-00453480 original treaty and at the time the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01518-00453481-00453759 population of Earth was two billion 9BgOfz9MHd8-01519-00453760-00454464 people state-of-the-art IT was the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01520-00454464-00454742 Telegraph and shortwave radio and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01521-00454743-00455060 delegates took steamships to attend a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01522-00455062-00455301 first meeting of the General Assembly in 9BgOfz9MHd8-01523-00455302-00455591 San Francisco 9BgOfz9MHd8-01524-00455592-00456132 today 193 member states represent the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01525-00456133-00456410 world's seven billion people and the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01526-00456412-00456714 UN's portfolio includes peacekeeping 9BgOfz9MHd8-01527-00456714-00457032 economic and social development the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01528-00457033-00457182 environment human rights and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01529-00457183-00457622 humanitarian work the sustainable 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9BgOfz9MHd8-01543-00462289-00462459 by something that needs your full 9BgOfz9MHd8-01544-00462460-00463107 attention the UN belongs to all of us it 9BgOfz9MHd8-01545-00463108-00463472 needs all of us it is not perfect by any 9BgOfz9MHd8-01546-00463474-00463716 stretch of the imagination but it's hard 9BgOfz9MHd8-01547-00463717-00464085 to imagine a world without it and over 9BgOfz9MHd8-01548-00464085-00464409 the last seven decades it has become I 9BgOfz9MHd8-01549-00464410-00464643 would say one of humankind's most 9BgOfz9MHd8-01550-00464643-00465051 important achievements the UN is 9BgOfz9MHd8-01551-00465052-00465357 dedicated from the first words of its 9BgOfz9MHd8-01552-00465358-00465860 Charter to we the people's but currently 9BgOfz9MHd8-01553-00465862-00466293 it's very difficult for we the people to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01554-00466293-00466653 act as stakeholders there is no public 9BgOfz9MHd8-01555-00466654-00466980 place online or anywhere in the world 9BgOfz9MHd8-01556-00466981-00467343 where you can touch the UN where you can 9BgOfz9MHd8-01557-00467343-00467522 learn about it with your mind and your 9BgOfz9MHd8-01558-00467524-00467885 senses where it welcomes you as a as a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01559-00467887-00468239 partner and where it can become part of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01560-00468241-00468596 you can become part of its work 9BgOfz9MHd8-01561-00468597-00468860 this may be as I was listening to John's 9BgOfz9MHd8-01562-00468861-00469104 wonderful opening remarks this maybe is 9BgOfz9MHd8-01563-00469105-00469293 how people thought about an encyclopedia 9BgOfz9MHd8-01564-00469293-00469941 thirty years ago so again how do we get 9BgOfz9MHd8-01565-00469942-00470262 difficult work done in society how do we 9BgOfz9MHd8-01566-00470263-00470406 get millions and billions of people 9BgOfz9MHd8-01567-00470407-00470723 working together on global goals the UN 9BgOfz9MHd8-01568-00470724-00471018 was founded by necessity to be an 9BgOfz9MHd8-01569-00471018-00471227 organization of governments relating to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01570-00471228-00471618 governments nation to nation as you 9BgOfz9MHd8-01571-00471618-00472043 might say a gov to gov but it's not news 9BgOfz9MHd8-01572-00472044-00472308 to you that we live increasingly in a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01573-00472309-00472664 person-to-person or peer to peer world a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01574-00472664-00472983 world in which many of the problems and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01575-00472984-00473354 many of the solutions lie outside the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01576-00473355-00473585 domain of governments and traditional 9BgOfz9MHd8-01577-00473586-00473971 institutions so a dramatic shift is 9BgOfz9MHd8-01578-00473972-00474375 needed in our thinking and our doing to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01579-00474376-00475262 reach these goals the museum for the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01580-00475263-00475643 United Nations un live is a startup NGO 9BgOfz9MHd8-01581-00475643-00476027 we're a very small team the idea was 9BgOfz9MHd8-01582-00476028-00476268 thought of in Copenhagen so that's where 9BgOfz9MHd8-01583-00476268-00476402 we're based but it could have been 9BgOfz9MHd8-01584-00476403-00476831 thought of anywhere no one owns the idea 9BgOfz9MHd8-01585-00476832-00477152 we're close to but not part of the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01586-00477153-00477489 United Nations we have a permit from the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01587-00477489-00477779 Secretary General to use the UN's name 9BgOfz9MHd8-01588-00477780-00478162 and brand in association with our work 9BgOfz9MHd8-01589-00478163-00478464 we're one of only two organizations that 9BgOfz9MHd8-01590-00478464-00478622 I know of in the world who has that 9BgOfz9MHd8-01591-00478623-00479114 privilege early on in the work of this 9BgOfz9MHd8-01592-00479115-00479393 project people identified the need for a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01593-00479394-00479729 new kind of platform that could bring 9BgOfz9MHd8-01594-00479730-00479954 people from different sectors together 9BgOfz9MHd8-01595-00479955-00480264 to work on things that mattered and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01596-00480264-00480504 early on from people who were not museum 9BgOfz9MHd8-01597-00480505-00480750 people they thought that a museum could 9BgOfz9MHd8-01598-00480751-00481062 serve as that kind of convener that kind 9BgOfz9MHd8-01599-00481063-00481502 of platform we have a mission and I'm 9BgOfz9MHd8-01600-00481503-00481752 gonna geek out on missions for a second 9BgOfz9MHd8-01601-00481753-00481972 we're starting something new 9BgOfz9MHd8-01602-00481972-00482287 these words and emission really matter 9BgOfz9MHd8-01603-00482288-00482739 so Clay Shirky describes institutions as 9BgOfz9MHd8-01604-00482741-00483189 frozen decisions you can't have a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01605-00483191-00483400 workforce showing up every morning or a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01606-00483401-00483658 movement showing up every morning trying 9BgOfz9MHd8-01607-00483659-00483874 to reinvent the organization from first 9BgOfz9MHd8-01608-00483875-00484138 principles you need to lock in some 9BgOfz9MHd8-01609-00484139-00484396 ideas if you're locking in ideas you 9BgOfz9MHd8-01610-00484397-00484627 better be darn sure those ideas are 9BgOfz9MHd8-01611-00484628-00484984 powerful so here's what we've done our 9BgOfz9MHd8-01612-00484985-00485305 mission is to connect people everywhere 9BgOfz9MHd8-01613-00485306-00485539 to the work and values of the United 9BgOfz9MHd8-01614-00485539-00485788 Nations starts with a verb Connect 9BgOfz9MHd8-01615-00485789-00486081 that's a very good action word who 9BgOfz9MHd8-01616-00486082-00486414 people what kind of people people 9BgOfz9MHd8-01617-00486414-00486697 everywhere it's the first project I've 9BgOfz9MHd8-01618-00486697-00486937 ever worked on that pretty much every 9BgOfz9MHd8-01619-00486938-00487126 not pretty much everyone on earth is 9BgOfz9MHd8-01620-00487127-00487381 entitled by right of being a human being 9BgOfz9MHd8-01621-00487382-00487614 to be a participant in and a beneficiary 9BgOfz9MHd8-01622-00487616-00488128 of not connecting to what are we 9BgOfz9MHd8-01623-00488129-00488362 connecting to not the UN itself but to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01624-00488363-00488584 its work and values this is not a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01625-00488585-00488910 marketing arm of the UN this is about 9BgOfz9MHd8-01626-00488912-00489433 its work first and its values and big 9BgOfz9MHd8-01627-00489434-00489727 and the mission is not complete until 9BgOfz9MHd8-01628-00489728-00490153 the next part and catalyze global effort 9BgOfz9MHd8-01629-00490154-00490441 towards accomplishing its goals it must 9BgOfz9MHd8-01630-00490442-00490804 be about the effort and the action with 9BgOfz9MHd8-01631-00490805-00490993 the sustainability sustainable 9BgOfz9MHd8-01632-00490993-00491256 development goals staring down at us 9BgOfz9MHd8-01633-00491257-00491547 with climate change staring down at us 9BgOfz9MHd8-01634-00491548-00491803 this can't be just about appreciating 9BgOfz9MHd8-01635-00491804-00492151 the challenge it must accomplish 9BgOfz9MHd8-01636-00492152-00492232 something 9BgOfz9MHd8-01637-00492233-00492547 therefore effort catalyzing effort 9BgOfz9MHd8-01638-00492547-00492735 towards accomplishing its goals 9BgOfz9MHd8-01639-00492737-00493045 achieving its goals we often now say our 9BgOfz9MHd8-01640-00493046-00493420 we have a dream to dramatically increase 9BgOfz9MHd8-01641-00493421-00493597 the number of people in the world who 9BgOfz9MHd8-01642-00493597-00493879 directly participate in solving global 9BgOfz9MHd8-01643-00493880-00494200 challenges from the bottom up in their 9BgOfz9MHd8-01644-00494201-00494803 own daily lives some of the when you put 9BgOfz9MHd8-01645-00494804-00495043 it a mission like that out into the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01646-00495043-00495250 world and you begin listening to how 9BgOfz9MHd8-01647-00495251-00495352 people react 9BgOfz9MHd8-01648-00495353-00495538 you begin studying how people are doing 9BgOfz9MHd8-01649-00495539-00495799 difficult work that matters some ideas 9BgOfz9MHd8-01650-00495800-00496197 and themes occur over and over again one 9BgOfz9MHd8-01651-00496199-00496510 is this idea of bottom-up bottom-up if 9BgOfz9MHd8-01652-00496510-00496831 one were to place on a map all of the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01653-00496832-00497101 projects designed to catalyze effort 9BgOfz9MHd8-01654-00497102-00497401 towards the global goals many of them 9BgOfz9MHd8-01655-00497402-00497671 fall in what I think of as a top left 9BgOfz9MHd8-01656-00497672-00497974 corner of a grid they're designed from 9BgOfz9MHd8-01657-00497975-00498400 the middle and participants are expected 9BgOfz9MHd8-01658-00498401-00498634 to follow the design of the designers 9BgOfz9MHd8-01659-00498635-00498963 it's very different than Wikipedia and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01660-00498964-00499303 that kind of effort is good and we need 9BgOfz9MHd8-01661-00499304-00499539 more of it but we think there is 9BgOfz9MHd8-01662-00499541-00499893 dramatically more potential in flipping 9BgOfz9MHd8-01663-00499895-00500074 the perspective around and beginning 9BgOfz9MHd8-01664-00500075-00500320 with people in their daily lives just 9BgOfz9MHd8-01665-00500321-00500488 hearing a few of the stories you've told 9BgOfz9MHd8-01666-00500489-00500718 about the sustainability sustainable 9BgOfz9MHd8-01667-00500720-00500938 development goals tells me that this is 9BgOfz9MHd8-01668-00500939-00501457 the right approach we wonder who who is 9BgOfz9MHd8-01669-00501458-00502047 this institution for we say UN live the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01670-00502049-00502405 museum is for those who are open to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01671-00502406-00502527 seeing things in a bigger perspective 9BgOfz9MHd8-01672-00502528-00502810 are open to belonging to a bigger 9BgOfz9MHd8-01673-00502810-00503134 community are open to using their 9BgOfz9MHd8-01674-00503135-00503425 ability to change something they care 9BgOfz9MHd8-01675-00503426-00503674 for and are open to making a tangible 9BgOfz9MHd8-01676-00503675-00503866 change happen we started out with a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01677-00503867-00504118 demographic where for teenagers who 9BgOfz9MHd8-01678-00504118-00504418 watch this movie in this location it's 9BgOfz9MHd8-01679-00504418-00504613 much more constructive to talk about 9BgOfz9MHd8-01680-00504614-00504901 this psychographic this kind of mindset 9BgOfz9MHd8-01681-00504902-00505147 than to talk about what people buy or 9BgOfz9MHd8-01682-00505147-00505447 where they live or how old they are we 9BgOfz9MHd8-01683-00505447-00505642 also see very much a relationship 9BgOfz9MHd8-01684-00505643-00505903 between the very global and the very 9BgOfz9MHd8-01685-00505904-00506221 local I think one of the big challenges 9BgOfz9MHd8-01686-00506222-00506589 for us in the next decade or so is how 9BgOfz9MHd8-01687-00506591-00506943 to Wed local impact with global 9BgOfz9MHd8-01688-00506945-00507181 participation how those two things fit 9BgOfz9MHd8-01689-00507182-00507510 together this is also shamelessly an 9BgOfz9MHd8-01690-00507512-00507946 effort to get more people involved it's 9BgOfz9MHd8-01691-00507947-00508117 the same from software from early 9BgOfz9MHd8-01692-00508118-00508314 programming with enough eyeballs all 9BgOfz9MHd8-01693-00508316-00508726 bugs are shallow yeah with enough people 9BgOfz9MHd8-01694-00508727-00508989 the case many problems that seem 9BgOfz9MHd8-01695-00508991-00509272 impossible are quite easily solvable I'm 9BgOfz9MHd8-01696-00509272-00509608 also thinking about Joy's law bill joy 9BgOfz9MHd8-01697-00509609-00509812 was the co-founder of Sun Microsystems 9BgOfz9MHd8-01698-00509813-00510085 and he famously said no matter what 9BgOfz9MHd8-01699-00510085-00510285 business you're in most of the smart 9BgOfz9MHd8-01700-00510287-00510547 people work for someone else and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01701-00510547-00510727 actually someone came up to me after a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01702-00510728-00510913 talk once and said I used to work for 9BgOfz9MHd8-01703-00510914-00511153 Bill joy and that was really true at Sun 9BgOfz9MHd8-01704-00511154-00511282 Microsystems most of the smart people 9BgOfz9MHd8-01705-00511283-00511810 did work for someone else we talked 9BgOfz9MHd8-01706-00511810-00512137 about shining a light on people and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01707-00512138-00512413 communities our beginning assumption is 9BgOfz9MHd8-01708-00512414-00512638 that most of the behaviors the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01709-00512639-00512875 problem-solving the ideas that we want 9BgOfz9MHd8-01710-00512876-00513139 to see more of in the world are already 9BgOfz9MHd8-01711-00513139-00513457 happening in the texture of daily life 9BgOfz9MHd8-01712-00513458-00513721 in communities around the world we can't 9BgOfz9MHd8-01713-00513722-00514089 find that from the center but they can 9BgOfz9MHd8-01714-00514091-00514333 find us and each other if we begin to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01715-00514334-00514468 shine a light on these extraordinary 9BgOfz9MHd8-01716-00514468-00515093 people and of course a bridge to action 9BgOfz9MHd8-01717-00515095-00515401 I'll say more about that in a minute 9BgOfz9MHd8-01718-00515402-00515731 and through working with how do we 9BgOfz9MHd8-01719-00515732-00515929 create a museum that dramatic its 9BgOfz9MHd8-01720-00515930-00516093 billions of people involved in 9BgOfz9MHd8-01721-00516095-00516522 accomplishing something I've seen this 9BgOfz9MHd8-01722-00516524-00516739 is we call this our one of our ninja 9BgOfz9MHd8-01723-00516739-00516802 moves 9BgOfz9MHd8-01724-00516803-00517213 oops where am i back there we go sorry 9BgOfz9MHd8-01725-00517214-00517531 we call this a ninja move this idea many 9BgOfz9MHd8-01726-00517532-00517759 of the design patterns we think about 9BgOfz9MHd8-01727-00517760-00518032 and we see are things that people think 9BgOfz9MHd8-01728-00518033-00518391 about is being opposites on a spectrum 9BgOfz9MHd8-01729-00518392-00518664 we can solve these problems that people 9BgOfz9MHd8-01730-00518666-00518899 have more empathy no no we can solve 9BgOfz9MHd8-01731-00518900-00519049 them if people get busy and just start 9BgOfz9MHd8-01732-00519050-00519355 working emotion is the way to connect no 9BgOfz9MHd8-01733-00519356-00519646 no it's intellect global/local digital 9BgOfz9MHd8-01734-00519647-00519871 physical top-down/bottom-up 9BgOfz9MHd8-01735-00519872-00520300 young old we're trained to think of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01736-00520301-00520453 these things as opposite and that we may 9BgOfz9MHd8-01737-00520454-00520693 have to make a choice what we're finding 9BgOfz9MHd8-01738-00520693-00520893 again and again is that these things 9BgOfz9MHd8-01739-00520895-00521193 want to be a circle they want to be a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01740-00521195-00521518 system top-down and bottom-up work 9BgOfz9MHd8-01741-00521518-00521710 together digital and physical work 9BgOfz9MHd8-01742-00521710-00521938 together young and old work together and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01743-00521939-00522113 our designs have to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01744-00522114-00522359 be sensitive to the way that these 9BgOfz9MHd8-01745-00522360-00523018 things fit together in daily life hmm 9BgOfz9MHd8-01746-00523018-00523406 we're very interested in speed speed 9BgOfz9MHd8-01747-00523407-00523556 speed speed and of course I'm 9BgOfz9MHd8-01748-00523557-00523835 referencing the WikiWiki bus at the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01749-00523835-00524207 Hawaii Airport that was as legend has it 9BgOfz9MHd8-01750-00524208-00524416 as Andrew leaves wonderful book told me 9BgOfz9MHd8-01751-00524417-00524708 the inspiration for the name Wikipedia 9BgOfz9MHd8-01752-00524709-00525074 wiki wiki means fast fast there isn't a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01753-00525075-00525548 lot of time we think I think that 9BgOfz9MHd8-01754-00525549-00525704 humanity is facing a series of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01755-00525705-00526046 challenges that don't yield to our 9BgOfz9MHd8-01756-00526047-00526292 habitual understanding of how long 9BgOfz9MHd8-01757-00526293-00526568 things take and how much effort it takes 9BgOfz9MHd8-01758-00526569-00527162 to succeed Bill McKibben is here in 9BgOfz9MHd8-01759-00527163-00527471 Rolling Stone quoting an environmental 9BgOfz9MHd8-01760-00527472-00527993 activist Stefan is anyone know skipping 9BgOfz9MHd8-01761-00527994-00528176 out of my mind right now 9BgOfz9MHd8-01762-00528177-00528466 winning slowly is the same as losing 9BgOfz9MHd8-01763-00528467-00529052 rights mr. McKibben if we don't win very 9BgOfz9MHd8-01764-00529053-00529238 quickly on climate change then we will 9BgOfz9MHd8-01765-00529239-00529502 never win that's the core truth about 9BgOfz9MHd8-01766-00529503-00529667 global warming it's what makes it 9BgOfz9MHd8-01767-00529668-00529835 different from any other problem our 9BgOfz9MHd8-01768-00529836-00530291 political systems have faced Stefan's 9BgOfz9MHd8-01769-00530292-00530894 vague the excruciatingly power of swags 9BgOfz9MHd8-01770-00530895-00531098 memoir it lies in the pain of looking 9BgOfz9MHd8-01771-00531099-00531308 back and seeing that there was a small 9BgOfz9MHd8-01772-00531309-00531521 window in which it was possible to act 9BgOfz9MHd8-01773-00531522-00531791 and then discovering how suddenly and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01774-00531792-00532016 irrevocably that window can be slammed 9BgOfz9MHd8-01775-00532017-00533012 shut and this from a lawyer and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01776-00533013-00533189 organizing organizer 9BgOfz9MHd8-01777-00533190-00533498 Aditi junetta if you've wondered what 9BgOfz9MHd8-01778-00533499-00533687 you would have done during slavery the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01779-00533688-00533876 Holocaust or the civil rights movement 9BgOfz9MHd8-01780-00533877-00534547 you're doing it now 9BgOfz9MHd8-01781-00534548-00534893 as I said we see ourselves as a as a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01782-00534894-00535232 system with three main parts online and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01783-00535233-00535400 network in the building I think in a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01784-00535401-00535502 hundred years 9BgOfz9MHd8-01785-00535503-00535862 if we succeed and I think my experience 9BgOfz9MHd8-01786-00535863-00536072 here with you these last few days bears 9BgOfz9MHd8-01787-00536073-00536324 this out if we succeed the thing that 9BgOfz9MHd8-01788-00536325-00536495 will have made the difference is the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01789-00536496-00536822 network it's the people everything else 9BgOfz9MHd8-01790-00536823-00537376 is a means to that end 9BgOfz9MHd8-01791-00537377-00537686 so why are we a museum why would you 9BgOfz9MHd8-01792-00537687-00538033 make a museum to do this 9BgOfz9MHd8-01793-00538034-00538411 museums are not universally loved I'm 9BgOfz9MHd8-01794-00538412-00538694 super aware of that and I have a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01795-00538695-00538874 love-hate relationship with them myself 9BgOfz9MHd8-01796-00538875-00539123 and frankly the UN is not universally 9BgOfz9MHd8-01797-00539124-00539342 loved either I was at a workshop in 9BgOfz9MHd8-01798-00539343-00539582 Addis Ababa we were running and someone 9BgOfz9MHd8-01799-00539583-00539777 raised their hand and said a museum and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01800-00539778-00539903 the United Nations so they're like to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01801-00539904-00540083 the worst things in the world and you're 9BgOfz9MHd8-01802-00540084-00540221 building them together like are you 9BgOfz9MHd8-01803-00540222-00540368 crazy 9BgOfz9MHd8-01804-00540369-00540671 but after talking with her this person 9BgOfz9MHd8-01805-00540672-00540977 and she's she she said and yet I came 9BgOfz9MHd8-01806-00540978-00541328 and yet I came because there's something 9BgOfz9MHd8-01807-00541329-00541601 within the vision of the United Nations 9BgOfz9MHd8-01808-00541602-00541883 and its values and of museums that seem 9BgOfz9MHd8-01809-00541884-00542299 to her to be worthy of protecting or 9BgOfz9MHd8-01810-00542300-00542576 exploring and also she said that this 9BgOfz9MHd8-01811-00542577-00542782 little word at the end of our name live 9BgOfz9MHd8-01812-00542783-00543248 was intriguing so she came and what we 9BgOfz9MHd8-01813-00543249-00543470 learned there are lots of reasons to be 9BgOfz9MHd8-01814-00543471-00543818 a museum trust convening power the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01815-00543819-00544055 ability to mix and remix different kinds 9BgOfz9MHd8-01816-00544056-00544340 of experiences the commitment to last in 9BgOfz9MHd8-01817-00544341-00544559 a culture in a community over long 9BgOfz9MHd8-01818-00544560-00544820 periods of time to be accountable for 9BgOfz9MHd8-01819-00544821-00545039 our decisions but the real breakthrough 9BgOfz9MHd8-01820-00545040-00545297 for me was in this workshop we did with 9BgOfz9MHd8-01821-00545298-00545545 a 10 to 14 year old kids in rural 9BgOfz9MHd8-01822-00545546-00545969 Denmark and and what happened was we 9BgOfz9MHd8-01823-00545970-00546208 gave them a a series of Lego bricks and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01824-00546209-00546590 I wanted to ask them here's our project 9BgOfz9MHd8-01825-00546591-00546788 should it be a museum what should it 9BgOfz9MHd8-01826-00546789-00546959 look like but often you don't get a good 9BgOfz9MHd8-01827-00546960-00547166 answer when you ask people directly so 9BgOfz9MHd8-01828-00547167-00547463 we had them build little models and the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01829-00547464-00547709 first model they built was I said build 9BgOfz9MHd8-01830-00547710-00547938 a model of a good day you have with your 9BgOfz9MHd8-01831-00547939-00548313 family sorry ok click click click click 9BgOfz9MHd8-01832-00548314-00548475 click click click they was like music 9BgOfz9MHd8-01833-00548476-00548631 the little Lego bricks coming in and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01834-00548632-00548853 they showed their their models of days 9BgOfz9MHd8-01835-00548854-00549057 to the park and going and getting ice 9BgOfz9MHd8-01836-00549058-00549333 cream and being at the beach with family 9BgOfz9MHd8-01837-00549334-00549555 or a vacation and it was ok 9BgOfz9MHd8-01838-00549556-00549735 build another model change this one a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01839-00549736-00550005 little bit but this model is a place you 9BgOfz9MHd8-01840-00550006-00550236 go to learn about the future it's part 9BgOfz9MHd8-01841-00550237-00550380 of your day with your family and they go 9BgOfz9MHd8-01842-00550381-00550524 click click click click click click 9BgOfz9MHd8-01843-00550525-00550757 click click they looked a little puzzled 9BgOfz9MHd8-01844-00550758-00551121 but they they included you know building 9BgOfz9MHd8-01845-00551122-00551337 a place with activities a place that was 9BgOfz9MHd8-01846-00551338-00551478 sort of like a school but they were kind 9BgOfz9MHd8-01847-00551479-00551634 of confused I didn't want to use the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01848-00551635-00551862 word museum didn't want to use the word 9BgOfz9MHd8-01849-00551863-00552117 library just wanted them to sort of move 9BgOfz9MHd8-01850-00552118-00552432 into these ideas and but they were lost 9BgOfz9MHd8-01851-00552433-00552708 so finally I said okay it's a museum for 9BgOfz9MHd8-01852-00552709-00552927 the future and they just looked so sad 9BgOfz9MHd8-01853-00552928-00553269 when I said Museum they just they just 9BgOfz9MHd8-01854-00553270-00553548 died a little bit inside like ok the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01855-00553549-00553782 game is up we're imagining the future 9BgOfz9MHd8-01856-00553783-00554064 but this is about somebody's museum so 9BgOfz9MHd8-01857-00554065-00554223 I'm out of here and they just checked 9BgOfz9MHd8-01858-00554224-00554424 out and we tried running this workshop a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01859-00554425-00554610 lot of different ways if we didn't say 9BgOfz9MHd8-01860-00554611-00554961 what it was they looked baffled if we 9BgOfz9MHd8-01861-00554962-00555123 said it was a museum we're about the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01862-00555124-00555294 United Nations they kind of died a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01863-00555295-00555690 little bit inside and after one of these 9BgOfz9MHd8-01864-00555691-00555837 workshops I was very frustrated I 9BgOfz9MHd8-01865-00555838-00556017 started asking them what kind of places 9BgOfz9MHd8-01866-00556018-00556188 do you go in your community what would 9BgOfz9MHd8-01867-00556189-00556338 where do you go to have fun what places 9BgOfz9MHd8-01868-00556339-00556506 do you love and they said oh there's 9BgOfz9MHd8-01869-00556507-00556740 this place we all go to in the city 9BgOfz9MHd8-01870-00556741-00556911 center what do you do there we go there 9BgOfz9MHd8-01871-00556912-00557091 every day after school we do homework 9BgOfz9MHd8-01872-00557092-00557217 and when you do we do homework we play 9BgOfz9MHd8-01873-00557218-00557436 games we listen to music we hang out 9BgOfz9MHd8-01874-00557437-00557646 what's it called they had no idea what 9BgOfz9MHd8-01875-00557647-00557697 it was called 9BgOfz9MHd8-01876-00557698-00558009 it's just that place their teacher told 9BgOfz9MHd8-01877-00558010-00558240 me afterward it's a library they go to 9BgOfz9MHd8-01878-00558241-00558408 their public library every day after 9BgOfz9MHd8-01879-00558409-00558579 school they had no idea was a library 9BgOfz9MHd8-01880-00558580-00558804 like couldn't care less that it was a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01881-00558805-00559089 library they went there every day it 9BgOfz9MHd8-01882-00559090-00559530 taught me it taught us that people don't 9BgOfz9MHd8-01883-00559531-00559746 think about museums and libraries in the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01884-00559747-00560034 abstract very few people do they think 9BgOfz9MHd8-01885-00560035-00560213 about places that they go and love 9BgOfz9MHd8-01886-00560214-00560466 places where they have good experiences 9BgOfz9MHd8-01887-00560467-00560862 but these ideas of a museum or a library 9BgOfz9MHd8-01888-00560863-00561132 or school or a conference are required 9BgOfz9MHd8-01889-00561133-00561297 as a little bit of a frame 9BgOfz9MHd8-01890-00561298-00561615 device to signal to people what kinds of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01891-00561616-00561765 experiences they have and what they 9BgOfz9MHd8-01892-00561766-00562086 might be asked to do but from then on 9BgOfz9MHd8-01893-00562087-00562496 out it's all about what the action is 9BgOfz9MHd8-01894-00562497-00563460 alright hmm head Anson heart so what 9BgOfz9MHd8-01895-00563461-00563916 we've what we've learned here is if we 9BgOfz9MHd8-01896-00563917-00564216 approach these challenges through only 9BgOfz9MHd8-01897-00564217-00564467 the intellect if we use the information 9BgOfz9MHd8-01898-00564468-00564840 deficit of action and change if you know 9BgOfz9MHd8-01899-00564841-00565095 more things you will take action and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01900-00565096-00565263 solve these goals we've learned that 9BgOfz9MHd8-01901-00565264-00565640 that doesn't work very well so she 9BgOfz9MHd8-01902-00565641-00565836 anticipated changes almost never 9BgOfz9MHd8-01903-00565837-00566047 happened on earth it's very discouraging 9BgOfz9MHd8-01904-00566048-00566288 and sometimes the opposite happens 9BgOfz9MHd8-01905-00566289-00566514 sometimes the more you know about a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01906-00566515-00566736 subject the less likely you are to take 9BgOfz9MHd8-01907-00566737-00567170 action on the other side of the frame is 9BgOfz9MHd8-01908-00567171-00567525 emotion if people could feel a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01909-00567526-00567717 connection a lived an emotional 9BgOfz9MHd8-01910-00567718-00567840 connection to the sustainable 9BgOfz9MHd8-01911-00567841-00568053 development goals they would be more 9BgOfz9MHd8-01912-00568054-00568254 likely to act to own these goals as 9BgOfz9MHd8-01913-00568255-00568530 their own and continue through to change 9BgOfz9MHd8-01914-00568531-00568809 and solve the goals but we have very 9BgOfz9MHd8-01915-00568810-00569040 little evidence that that happens either 9BgOfz9MHd8-01916-00569041-00569430 and on the third side of this we have 9BgOfz9MHd8-01917-00569431-00569712 the knowledge of the hands the habit of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01918-00569713-00570045 people doing and making in their daily 9BgOfz9MHd8-01919-00570046-00570309 lives that seldom considered as part of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01920-00570310-00570591 the tool set for solving big goals it's 9BgOfz9MHd8-01921-00570592-00570759 the kind of work I saw happening in the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01922-00570760-00571008 hotel lobby and in the hackathons and in 9BgOfz9MHd8-01923-00571009-00571146 your conference sessions the last few 9BgOfz9MHd8-01924-00571147-00571452 days the habit of doing of making 9BgOfz9MHd8-01925-00571453-00571749 completing doing is something that needs 9BgOfz9MHd8-01926-00571750-00571896 to be in the mix so we say we're 9BgOfz9MHd8-01927-00571897-00572124 designing for head hands and heart 9BgOfz9MHd8-01928-00572125-00573056 together as one one unit 9BgOfz9MHd8-01929-00573057-00573418 we imagine festivals local gatherings 9BgOfz9MHd8-01930-00573419-00573702 intimacy physical presence is very 9BgOfz9MHd8-01931-00573703-00574229 important but grown up from the local 9BgOfz9MHd8-01932-00574230-00574435 community level this is a pop-up 9BgOfz9MHd8-01933-00574436-00574772 festival that was done in Leiden the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01934-00574773-00575012 Netherlands about a month ago just 9BgOfz9MHd8-01935-00575013-00575204 neighbors gathering to talk about what 9BgOfz9MHd8-01936-00575205-00575516 they do and what they think we think 9BgOfz9MHd8-01937-00575517-00575885 that video Global connected video will 9BgOfz9MHd8-01938-00575886-00576177 be very important in connecting people 9BgOfz9MHd8-01939-00576178-00576402 to each other and the body language of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01940-00576403-00577193 participation and change and play you 9BgOfz9MHd8-01941-00577194-00577466 can tell how much we think play is 9BgOfz9MHd8-01942-00577467-00577743 important when I was flying over here I 9BgOfz9MHd8-01943-00577744-00577964 was thinking about Pippi Longstocking do 9BgOfz9MHd8-01944-00577965-00578033 you know Pippi 9BgOfz9MHd8-01945-00578034-00578243 everybody knows Pippi Pippi is a hero 9BgOfz9MHd8-01946-00578244-00578589 here in Scandinavian and Sweden and I 9BgOfz9MHd8-01947-00578590-00578804 realized all of the great children's 9BgOfz9MHd8-01948-00578805-00579027 literature in the world happens when the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01949-00579028-00579281 grown-ups are out of the room all right 9BgOfz9MHd8-01950-00579282-00579602 like where pippy's parents who knows 9BgOfz9MHd8-01951-00579603-00579822 where are the adults in the Harry Potter 9BgOfz9MHd8-01952-00579823-00580091 series they're terrible adults most of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01953-00580092-00580295 them are very problematic a lot of the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01954-00580296-00580487 great children's literature happens when 9BgOfz9MHd8-01955-00580488-00580643 the grown-ups are gone and people have 9BgOfz9MHd8-01956-00580644-00580785 to young people have to figure things 9BgOfz9MHd8-01957-00580786-00581052 out on their own but when the UN arrives 9BgOfz9MHd8-01958-00581053-00581270 when these very complex goals arrive 9BgOfz9MHd8-01959-00581271-00581585 when a museum arrives people it's like 9BgOfz9MHd8-01960-00581586-00581841 mom and dad are home people shut down 9BgOfz9MHd8-01961-00581842-00582137 and a lot of the creative process of 9BgOfz9MHd8-01962-00582138-00582287 opening up this museum to people 9BgOfz9MHd8-01963-00582288-00582414 everywhere is about getting the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01964-00582415-00582756 grown-ups out of the room so that you 9BgOfz9MHd8-01965-00582757-00583185 you can think and play and work we have 9BgOfz9MHd8-01966-00583186-00583598 designed a global were designed we're 9BgOfz9MHd8-01967-00583599-00583808 creating a global participatory 9BgOfz9MHd8-01968-00583809-00584052 role-playing game to begin drawing 9BgOfz9MHd8-01969-00584053-00584300 people into climate issues climate 9BgOfz9MHd8-01970-00584301-00584552 change issues through participatory 9BgOfz9MHd8-01971-00584553-00585353 imaginative play all right wrapping up 9BgOfz9MHd8-01972-00585354-00585659 as you're in your sessions the next few 9BgOfz9MHd8-01973-00585660-00586043 days you're going to hear about the SDGs 9BgOfz9MHd8-01974-00586044-00586658 and this community knows a lot about how 9BgOfz9MHd8-01975-00586659-00586937 to work at a global scale quickly and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01976-00586938-00587572 reliably to achieve stunning results 9BgOfz9MHd8-01977-00587573-00587951 it's a skill set that the rest of the 9BgOfz9MHd8-01978-00587952-00588308 world that the UN that this museum that 9BgOfz9MHd8-01979-00588309-00588650 humanity needs but we don't know exactly 9BgOfz9MHd8-01980-00588651-00589208 how yet so my ask of you with what I've 9BgOfz9MHd8-01981-00589209-00589417 said and the waving of hands about 9BgOfz9MHd8-01982-00589418-00590020 emotion and intellect and participation 9BgOfz9MHd8-01983-00590021-00590330 my ask of you is that you think of us as 9BgOfz9MHd8-01984-00590331-00590648 we as you move through the next few days 9BgOfz9MHd8-01985-00590649-00590972 and think about what you can add to this 9BgOfz9MHd8-01986-00590973-00592293 work on the global goals 9BgOfz9MHd8-01987-00592294-00592531 hmm and I'll finish with a CREP a quote 9BgOfz9MHd8-01988-00592532-00593149 from Greta - anne-marie she says adults 9BgOfz9MHd8-01989-00593150-00593359 keep saying we owe it to the young 9BgOfz9MHd8-01990-00593360-00593554 people to give them hope but I don't 9BgOfz9MHd8-01991-00593555-00593758 want your hope I don't want you to be 9BgOfz9MHd8-01992-00593759-00594043 hopeful I want you to panic I want you 9BgOfz9MHd8-01993-00594044-00594555 to feel the fear I fear every day and 9BgOfz9MHd8-01994-00594556-00595992 then I want you to act 9BgOfz9MHd8-01995-00595993-00596241 thank you so much Michael for inspiring 9BgOfz9MHd8-01996-00596242-00596425 presentation we would like to give you 9BgOfz9MHd8-01997-00596426-00596595 this little diploma and we made a 9BgOfz9MHd8-01998-00596596-00596862 donation to UNDP in a pretty 9BgOfz9MHd8-01999-00596863-00597058 appreciation of this presentation thank 9BgOfz9MHd8-02000-00597059-00597189 you so much thank you so much 9BgOfz9MHd8-02001-00597190-00598063 [Applause] 9DunkV9xYju-00000-00000424-00000743 guys 9DunkV9xYju-00001-00000744-00001959 if dope 9DunkV9xYju-00002-00001960-00002079 what is good everybody and welcome back 9DunkV9xYju-00003-00002080-00002271 to another my damn toys video today 9DunkV9xYju-00004-00002272-00002431 ladies and gentlemen you know i really 9DunkV9xYju-00005-00002432-00002647 wasn't even gonna upload today but 9DunkV9xYju-00006-00002648-00002991 something came to my my my brain right 9DunkV9xYju-00007-00002992-00003247 here and i realized something last night 9DunkV9xYju-00008-00003247-00003415 and i figured i'd post about it today 9DunkV9xYju-00009-00003415-00003551 because i didn't have anything slated 9DunkV9xYju-00010-00003552-00003711 for today i think we have surgery going 9DunkV9xYju-00011-00003711-00003790 up tomorrow 9DunkV9xYju-00012-00003792-00003999 but for today i just wanted to get on 9DunkV9xYju-00013-00004000-00004167 here and explain a little bit of a story 9DunkV9xYju-00014-00004168-00004295 time a little bit of a moment because i 9DunkV9xYju-00015-00004296-00004399 want you guys to get in 9DunkV9xYju-00016-00004400-00004631 on this with me because i messed up man 9DunkV9xYju-00017-00004632-00004806 i messed up big time and i'm pretty 9DunkV9xYju-00018-00004807-00004959 upset about it but it's it's kind of a 9DunkV9xYju-00019-00004960-00005031 funny thing 9DunkV9xYju-00020-00005032-00005254 an ironic thing but it's also kind of 9DunkV9xYju-00021-00005255-00005422 heartbreaking to a sense and i'll 9DunkV9xYju-00022-00005423-00005559 explain everything so if you guys 9DunkV9xYju-00023-00005560-00005806 remember about a week ago what was it i 9DunkV9xYju-00024-00005807-00005951 don't remember what day it was 9DunkV9xYju-00025-00005952-00006118 it was last week sometime maybe thursday 9DunkV9xYju-00026-00006119-00006238 maybe it was last saturday actually i 9DunkV9xYju-00027-00006239-00006431 think it was a week ago today and i just 9DunkV9xYju-00028-00006431-00006591 really realized it yesterday which 9DunkV9xYju-00029-00006592-00006759 explains a lot which we'll get into as 9DunkV9xYju-00030-00006759-00006910 well and if i'm talking a little weird 9DunkV9xYju-00031-00006911-00007031 it's because i have like i have like a 9DunkV9xYju-00032-00007031-00007198 couple ulcers and it's making my mouth 9DunkV9xYju-00033-00007200-00007351 move all weird and i don't like it and 9DunkV9xYju-00034-00007352-00007534 it hurts like hell sometimes so about a 9DunkV9xYju-00035-00007536-00007687 week ago i think it was last weekend 9DunkV9xYju-00036-00007688-00007870 last saturday we posted an action figure 9DunkV9xYju-00037-00007872-00008014 setup if you guys remember that it was 9DunkV9xYju-00038-00008015-00008174 the horror setup we had the jason 9DunkV9xYju-00039-00008175-00008327 voorhees we had all of them set up in 9DunkV9xYju-00040-00008328-00008487 the kitchen we did a really fun kitchen 9DunkV9xYju-00041-00008488-00008607 setup it was super fun 9DunkV9xYju-00042-00008608-00008751 super awesome if you guys stayed all the 9DunkV9xYju-00043-00008752-00008919 way through that video not only would 9DunkV9xYju-00044-00008920-00009046 you have seen the action figure 9DunkV9xYju-00045-00009047-00009223 sequences where we dived off the you 9DunkV9xYju-00046-00009224-00009335 know the ladders and went through the 9DunkV9xYju-00047-00009336-00009503 tables we had all these things set up 9DunkV9xYju-00048-00009504-00009535 but 9DunkV9xYju-00049-00009536-00009759 at the very end of the video what did i 9DunkV9xYju-00050-00009760-00009942 do you guys remember do you guys 9DunkV9xYju-00051-00009943-00010039 remember what happened 9DunkV9xYju-00052-00010040-00010167 if you guys don't remember what happened 9DunkV9xYju-00053-00010168-00010310 it was a special surprise at the end of 9DunkV9xYju-00054-00010311-00010463 the video i'll roll the clip right now 9DunkV9xYju-00055-00010464-00010638 oh and then the last part before we get 9DunkV9xYju-00056-00010639-00010814 into the spots guys we got to show off 9DunkV9xYju-00057-00010815-00010927 the best part of the setup and that 9DunkV9xYju-00058-00010928-00011055 would be if we come down here to the 9DunkV9xYju-00059-00011056-00011127 trash can 9DunkV9xYju-00060-00011128-00011319 what do you guys see what do you see 9DunkV9xYju-00061-00011320-00011438 none other than 9DunkV9xYju-00062-00011439-00011727 trash king corbin hanging on going down 9DunkV9xYju-00063-00011728-00011870 into the trash can 9DunkV9xYju-00064-00011871-00012095 you hate to see it for trash corbin here 9DunkV9xYju-00065-00012096-00012191 on halloween 9DunkV9xYju-00066-00012192-00012927 but it had to be done brad 9DunkV9xYju-00067-00012928-00013127 see you later trash honestly it probably 9DunkV9xYju-00068-00013128-00013222 should have put him in the garbage 9DunkV9xYju-00069-00013223-00013303 disposal but 9DunkV9xYju-00070-00013304-00013422 i wanted slap jack to get his 9DunkV9xYju-00071-00013423-00013583 comeuppance and i figured the trash was 9DunkV9xYju-00072-00013584-00013615 good 9DunkV9xYju-00073-00013616-00013775 was the best place for trash corbin so 9DunkV9xYju-00074-00013776-00013935 if you guys did see in the end of the 9DunkV9xYju-00075-00013936-00014191 setup video what did i do i proceeded to 9DunkV9xYju-00076-00014191-00014415 knock off trash corbin right i knocked 9DunkV9xYju-00077-00014416-00014558 him off into the trash 9DunkV9xYju-00078-00014559-00014697 well brad 9DunkV9xYju-00079-00014699-00015079 [Music] 9DunkV9xYju-00080-00015080-00015383 i just realized that i never retrieved 9DunkV9xYju-00081-00015384-00015607 him from the trash 9DunkV9xYju-00082-00015608-00015799 do you realize what this means brad this 9DunkV9xYju-00083-00015800-00016047 means that the trash corbin figure the 9DunkV9xYju-00084-00016047-00016222 custom trash corbin figure 9DunkV9xYju-00085-00016223-00016558 is gano he's long gone brad i didn't 9DunkV9xYju-00086-00016559-00016663 even want to throw him as 9DunkV9xYju-00087-00016664-00016839 i didn't want to want to throw him away 9DunkV9xYju-00088-00016840-00016999 and it's like well it's trash corbin 9DunkV9xYju-00089-00017000-00017175 but at the same time it's like well damn 9DunkV9xYju-00090-00017176-00017311 man that thing i held 9DunkV9xYju-00091-00017312-00017455 near and dear to my heart you know it's 9DunkV9xYju-00092-00017456-00017607 like i don't like trash but why am i 9DunkV9xYju-00093-00017608-00017686 upset about him 9DunkV9xYju-00094-00017687-00017863 actually going to the trash which is 9DunkV9xYju-00095-00017864-00018103 another thing on top of itself how funny 9DunkV9xYju-00096-00018104-00018158 is it 9DunkV9xYju-00097-00018159-00018503 that his his his demise actually came in 9DunkV9xYju-00098-00018504-00018599 the trash 9DunkV9xYju-00099-00018600-00018758 i didn't just lose him like moving 9DunkV9xYju-00100-00018759-00018975 houses or i didn't drop him off or 9DunkV9xYju-00101-00018976-00019191 him fall out of a box somewhere or sell 9DunkV9xYju-00102-00019192-00019358 him or anything like that the man 9DunkV9xYju-00103-00019359-00019639 literally went in the trash i forgot to 9DunkV9xYju-00104-00019640-00019839 get him out and he's long gone brad he's 9DunkV9xYju-00105-00019840-00020055 getting incinerated by the damn trash 9DunkV9xYju-00106-00020056-00020135 burner now 9DunkV9xYju-00107-00020136-00020367 that was last weekend our trash runs on 9DunkV9xYju-00108-00020368-00020543 monday we took out the trash we always 9DunkV9xYju-00109-00020544-00020686 take out the trash on sunday night 9DunkV9xYju-00110-00020687-00020799 because it's part of the routine you 9DunkV9xYju-00111-00020800-00020967 know you take out your trash you get it 9DunkV9xYju-00112-00020968-00021119 out to the side of the road so it monday 9DunkV9xYju-00113-00021120-00021222 morning early on 9DunkV9xYju-00114-00021223-00021430 they come out they take that hope and i 9DunkV9xYju-00115-00021431-00021599 did not retrieve it man 9DunkV9xYju-00116-00021600-00021814 he got buried underneath some garbage 9DunkV9xYju-00117-00021815-00021935 and there he went 9DunkV9xYju-00118-00021936-00022158 now he's off he's he's probably he's 9DunkV9xYju-00119-00022159-00022303 either sitting in a pile right now or 9DunkV9xYju-00120-00022304-00022478 he's gone he's burned alive he's gone as 9DunkV9xYju-00121-00022479-00022599 hell and i don't know man 9DunkV9xYju-00122-00022600-00022839 i'm really upset about it and my boy fig 9DunkV9xYju-00123-00022840-00022999 skip customs the guy that made the trash 9DunkV9xYju-00124-00023000-00023191 corbin figure i hit him up immediately 9DunkV9xYju-00125-00023192-00023303 because i was like dude i 9DunkV9xYju-00126-00023304-00023486 i have some heartbreaking news for you 9DunkV9xYju-00127-00023487-00023671 because it it freaking messed me up man 9DunkV9xYju-00128-00023672-00023878 and i want to show you guys how i even 9DunkV9xYju-00129-00023879-00024055 found out about it so after i do set up 9DunkV9xYju-00130-00024056-00024263 videos i put all the figures in a box 9DunkV9xYju-00131-00024264-00024422 and i carry it from wherever it was so 9DunkV9xYju-00132-00024423-00024567 if it's in the if it's in the room 9DunkV9xYju-00133-00024568-00024694 obviously i can just take them and put 9DunkV9xYju-00134-00024695-00024735 them 9DunkV9xYju-00135-00024736-00024903 up on their shelves but if i'm going to 9DunkV9xYju-00136-00024904-00025071 another part of the house to the arena 9DunkV9xYju-00137-00025072-00025255 to the kitchen or whatever we do 9DunkV9xYju-00138-00025256-00025414 i always put them in a box and i carry 9DunkV9xYju-00139-00025415-00025567 the box back to the room 9DunkV9xYju-00140-00025568-00025846 well after improving i i literally fixed 9DunkV9xYju-00141-00025847-00026014 up the room and cleaned up the kitchen 9DunkV9xYju-00142-00026016-00026174 after the setup maybe i think it was 9DunkV9xYju-00143-00026175-00026327 either sunday morning or like late 9DunkV9xYju-00144-00026327-00026511 saturday night so i carried the box back 9DunkV9xYju-00145-00026512-00026574 to the room 9DunkV9xYju-00146-00026575-00026758 and i cleaned up the area and i got 9DunkV9xYju-00147-00026760-00026958 everything good to go and then so 9DunkV9xYju-00148-00026960-00027118 like three or four days later this is 9DunkV9xYju-00149-00027119-00027270 like friday night i think it was last 9DunkV9xYju-00150-00027272-00027414 night i noticed it i went around the 9DunkV9xYju-00151-00027416-00027535 room i'll show you guys because i was 9DunkV9xYju-00152-00027536-00027687 setting up new stuff so over here i was 9DunkV9xYju-00153-00027688-00027823 getting ready for some surgery we got 9DunkV9xYju-00154-00027824-00027967 some figures we're gonna do some surgery 9DunkV9xYju-00155-00027968-00028135 on i got my rocks over here 9DunkV9xYju-00156-00028136-00028302 so if we go across over here you guys 9DunkV9xYju-00157-00028304-00028495 will notice i added a new shell because 9DunkV9xYju-00158-00028495-00028623 we got our new mark henry and since we 9DunkV9xYju-00159-00028624-00028655 have 9DunkV9xYju-00160-00028656-00028783 since we have three mark henry's now i 9DunkV9xYju-00161-00028783-00028918 wanted to make a mark henry shell and 9DunkV9xYju-00162-00028919-00029079 then i added to the drew mcintyre shell 9DunkV9xYju-00163-00029080-00029246 and over here i had to move all these 9DunkV9xYju-00164-00029247-00029414 figures down to make room for the new 9DunkV9xYju-00165-00029416-00029535 triple h down there because i'm gonna 9DunkV9xYju-00166-00029536-00029599 have to do that 9DunkV9xYju-00167-00029600-00029807 and i'm also gonna add my randy orton so 9DunkV9xYju-00168-00029808-00029958 i was in the process of that i didn't 9DunkV9xYju-00169-00029960-00030079 get to finish that because i noticed 9DunkV9xYju-00170-00030080-00030246 this if you notice right here guys 9DunkV9xYju-00171-00030247-00030446 this right here is the trash corbin 9DunkV9xYju-00172-00030447-00030687 shell right here is where my trash 9DunkV9xYju-00173-00030688-00030902 corbin figure sits okay so i'm cleaning 9DunkV9xYju-00174-00030903-00031079 up i get all this stuff down i look down 9DunkV9xYju-00175-00031080-00031223 and i see this and i go 9DunkV9xYju-00176-00031224-00031431 oh my god i said for a second i thought 9DunkV9xYju-00177-00031432-00031590 oh was i doing a setup for a 9DunkV9xYju-00178-00031591-00031727 pay-per-view and i was like what what 9DunkV9xYju-00179-00031727-00031774 the hell 9DunkV9xYju-00180-00031775-00031974 and then i remember brad i put him in 9DunkV9xYju-00181-00031975-00032087 the damn trash 9DunkV9xYju-00182-00032088-00032358 i threw the man in the trash bro i threw 9DunkV9xYju-00183-00032360-00032439 the man 9DunkV9xYju-00184-00032439-00032670 in the trash i cannot believe it again 9DunkV9xYju-00185-00032672-00032862 it's funny and it's ironic how 9DunkV9xYju-00186-00032863-00033071 ironic is that who is messaging me so 9DunkV9xYju-00187-00033072-00033271 yeah man so what disappoints me the most 9DunkV9xYju-00188-00033272-00033374 you're like well you don't even like 9DunkV9xYju-00189-00033375-00033527 trash gordon no i don't like trash 9DunkV9xYju-00190-00033528-00033727 corbin but that figure held dear to my 9DunkV9xYju-00191-00033728-00033879 heart because back in the day like a 9DunkV9xYju-00192-00033880-00034023 long time ago i'll plug in the first 9DunkV9xYju-00193-00034024-00034087 time i ever 9DunkV9xYju-00194-00034088-00034318 opened the damn trash corbin figure my 9DunkV9xYju-00195-00034319-00034495 lord jesus what do we have 9DunkV9xYju-00196-00034496-00034823 oh no he didn't oh my god look what he 9DunkV9xYju-00197-00034824-00035015 did guys he made an official trash 9DunkV9xYju-00198-00035016-00035199 corbin oh my god look at that 9DunkV9xYju-00199-00035200-00035390 is the best they have ever seen in my 9DunkV9xYju-00200-00035391-00035518 entire life 9DunkV9xYju-00201-00035519-00035830 look at that he actually cut his body or 9DunkV9xYju-00202-00035831-00035990 he detached the torso and 9DunkV9xYju-00203-00035991-00036279 super glued it to a trash can and he has 9DunkV9xYju-00204-00036280-00036318 no 9DunkV9xYju-00205-00036319-00036535 he is officially trash corbin look at 9DunkV9xYju-00206-00036536-00036735 this is freaking amazing 9DunkV9xYju-00207-00036736-00037039 oh my god thank you so this is 9DunkV9xYju-00208-00037040-00037255 this is the best thing i've ever seen in 9DunkV9xYju-00209-00037256-00037359 my entire life 9DunkV9xYju-00210-00037360-00037671 i am going to definitely be putting this 9DunkV9xYju-00211-00037672-00037799 somewhere like oh my 9DunkV9xYju-00212-00037800-00038055 that is the best thing i've ever seen oh 9DunkV9xYju-00213-00038056-00038183 my god 9DunkV9xYju-00214-00038184-00038407 i am so sorry for the freak out guys but 9DunkV9xYju-00215-00038408-00038583 this is like the greatest thing i've 9DunkV9xYju-00216-00038584-00038767 ever freaking seen in my entire life are 9DunkV9xYju-00217-00038768-00038935 you guys looking at this 9DunkV9xYju-00218-00038936-00039230 look at this oh look at that look at 9DunkV9xYju-00219-00039231-00039318 that look at that 9DunkV9xYju-00220-00039319-00039574 oh look at that it is an actual trash 9DunkV9xYju-00221-00039575-00039679 corbin 9DunkV9xYju-00222-00039680-00039999 it's a legit just sitting there trash 9DunkV9xYju-00223-00040000-00040215 court this is the greatest thing i've 9DunkV9xYju-00224-00040216-00040311 ever 9DunkV9xYju-00225-00040312-00040527 seen in my entire life that was on an 9DunkV9xYju-00226-00040528-00040711 episode of my damn hall's way back when 9DunkV9xYju-00227-00040712-00040879 bro like way back on the channel so i 9DunkV9xYju-00228-00040880-00040974 probably had that figure in my 9DunkV9xYju-00229-00040975-00041127 collection probably three and a half or 9DunkV9xYju-00230-00041128-00041302 at least three years or so and the guy 9DunkV9xYju-00231-00041303-00041423 that made it fig skill 9DunkV9xYju-00232-00041424-00041551 he was a fan of the channel so he just 9DunkV9xYju-00233-00041552-00041662 wanted to send that to me because he 9DunkV9xYju-00234-00041663-00041815 knew that i was uh you know i didn't 9DunkV9xYju-00235-00041816-00041990 like trash corbin so he made a half 9DunkV9xYju-00236-00041991-00042262 trash half corbin figure and god man 9DunkV9xYju-00237-00042263-00042446 that's so awesome and then to lose that 9DunkV9xYju-00238-00042447-00042535 figure it's like 9DunkV9xYju-00239-00042536-00042774 god dang man it hurts me a little bit 9DunkV9xYju-00240-00042775-00042935 because it's sentimental however i do 9DunkV9xYju-00241-00042936-00043062 have some brilliant news 9DunkV9xYju-00242-00043063-00043246 fig skip the guy that made it i actually 9DunkV9xYju-00243-00043247-00043423 hit him up and he's already made a new 9DunkV9xYju-00244-00043424-00043671 one i don't have the you know the tgif 9DunkV9xYju-00245-00043672-00043855 friday's head scope to put on it just 9DunkV9xYju-00246-00043856-00043974 yet i'm gonna have to track down one of 9DunkV9xYju-00247-00043975-00044158 those basics and get a crown to make him 9DunkV9xYju-00248-00044159-00044311 king trash corbin again which we'll 9DunkV9xYju-00249-00044312-00044495 probably do in a later video but i can't 9DunkV9xYju-00250-00044496-00044702 believe it man i can't believe it trash 9DunkV9xYju-00251-00044703-00044839 corbin met his demise 9DunkV9xYju-00252-00044840-00044990 even though we're getting a new one huh 9DunkV9xYju-00253-00044991-00045095 i just wanted to share that with you 9DunkV9xYju-00254-00045096-00045295 guys so we had like a story time slash 9DunkV9xYju-00255-00045296-00045471 update slash i don't know but i figured 9DunkV9xYju-00256-00045472-00045639 you guys would like to hear that story 9DunkV9xYju-00257-00045640-00045767 and understand where i'm coming from 9DunkV9xYju-00258-00045768-00045887 i might have been able to get away with 9DunkV9xYju-00259-00045888-00046039 it just create a new one but i figured 9DunkV9xYju-00260-00046040-00046167 get on here and tell you guys about it i 9DunkV9xYju-00261-00046168-00046295 can't believe i did that man it just 9DunkV9xYju-00262-00046296-00046423 shows that you got to pay attention to 9DunkV9xYju-00263-00046424-00046558 your setups when you do setups 9DunkV9xYju-00264-00046559-00046702 be sure to get your figures out of the 9DunkV9xYju-00265-00046703-00046815 trash if you're going to do something 9DunkV9xYju-00266-00046816-00046967 like that but damn man 9DunkV9xYju-00267-00046968-00047199 so ironic so funny so heartbreaking all 9DunkV9xYju-00268-00047200-00047407 in once so many things we can talk about 9DunkV9xYju-00269-00047408-00047590 so many things we can't talk about but 9DunkV9xYju-00270-00047591-00047695 yeah bro i think that's going to do it 9DunkV9xYju-00271-00047696-00047879 for this video i apologize for the weird 9DunkV9xYju-00272-00047880-00048046 lighting and the ish but i wanted to get 9DunkV9xYju-00273-00048047-00048167 on here and tell you guys about that 9DunkV9xYju-00274-00048168-00048335 story and i guess a surgery or 9DunkV9xYju-00275-00048336-00048462 something's coming tomorrow we'll see 9DunkV9xYju-00276-00048463-00048615 about that but dang man 9DunkV9xYju-00277-00048616-00048846 hey loki upset me am i secretly deep 9DunkV9xYju-00278-00048847-00049455 down a trash corbin fan 9DunkV9xYju-00279-00049456-00049630 hell no but anyways guys that is gonna 9DunkV9xYju-00280-00049631-00049807 do it for this video ah before we get 9DunkV9xYju-00281-00049808-00049918 out of here let's go ahead and give a 9DunkV9xYju-00282-00049919-00050143 shout out from our last video so huge 9DunkV9xYju-00283-00050144-00050295 shout out to rebel heart wrestling for 9DunkV9xYju-00284-00050296-00050439 this comment on our last video 9DunkV9xYju-00285-00050440-00050599 he says i'm kind of surprised we didn't 9DunkV9xYju-00286-00050600-00050830 get any new images of ultimate edition 9DunkV9xYju-00287-00050831-00051015 edge since we got all the ones after him 9DunkV9xYju-00288-00051016-00051174 and i agree with that a lot 9DunkV9xYju-00289-00051175-00051382 because it was weird i expected to see 9DunkV9xYju-00290-00051383-00051607 nice new images of it since we got nice 9DunkV9xYju-00291-00051608-00051814 new images of hulk hogan and the fiend 9DunkV9xYju-00292-00051815-00051950 and everything like that we didn't even 9DunkV9xYju-00293-00051951-00052111 see macho man so i guess i don't know i 9DunkV9xYju-00294-00052112-00052238 guess we'll see about that but we did 9DunkV9xYju-00295-00052239-00052454 get images of elite 83 edge which would 9DunkV9xYju-00296-00052455-00052607 be nice even though the torso is not 9DunkV9xYju-00297-00052608-00052719 accurate even though the ultimate 9DunkV9xYju-00298-00052720-00052871 edition has a better looking torso i 9DunkV9xYju-00299-00052872-00053007 don't know but guys guys thank you for 9DunkV9xYju-00300-00053008-00053126 watching let me know what you think of 9DunkV9xYju-00301-00053127-00053263 the story down below and what do you 9DunkV9xYju-00302-00053264-00053463 guys think about that how ironic and 9DunkV9xYju-00303-00053464-00053615 crazy is that but thank you guys for 9DunkV9xYju-00304-00053616-00053750 watching i hope you guys did enjoy 9DunkV9xYju-00305-00053751-00053871 subscribe to the channel follow me on 9DunkV9xYju-00306-00053872-00054015 instagram and twitter my name toys and 9DunkV9xYju-00307-00054016-00054983 i'll see you guys in the next video 9DISyOazM7u-00000-00000012-00000332 the combined bomber offensive CBO was an 9DISyOazM7u-00001-00000333-00000497 allied offensive of strategic bombing 9DISyOazM7u-00002-00000498-00000736 during World War Two in Europe the 9DISyOazM7u-00003-00000737-00000950 primary portion of the CBO was against 9DISyOazM7u-00004-00000951-00001108 Luftwaffe targets which was the highest 9DISyOazM7u-00005-00001109-00001382 priority from June 1943 to the first of 9DISyOazM7u-00006-00001383-00001702 April 1944 the subsequent highest 9DISyOazM7u-00007-00001703-00001907 priority campaigns were against V weapon 9DISyOazM7u-00008-00001907-00002189 installations June 1944 and petroleum 9DISyOazM7u-00009-00002190-00002401 oil and lubrication poll plants 9DISyOazM7u-00010-00002402-00002785 September 1944 additional CBO targets 9DISyOazM7u-00011-00002786-00002917 included rail yards and other 9DISyOazM7u-00012-00002918-00003085 transportation targets particularly 9DISyOazM7u-00013-00003086-00003269 prior to the invasion of Normandy and 9DISyOazM7u-00014-00003270-00003458 along with army equipment in the final 9DISyOazM7u-00015-00003459-00003719 stages of the war in Europe the British 9DISyOazM7u-00016-00003720-00003920 bombing campaign was chiefly waged by 9DISyOazM7u-00017-00003921-00004109 night by large numbers of heavy bombers 9DISyOazM7u-00018-00004110-00004288 until the latter stages of the war when 9DISyOazM7u-00019-00004289-00004484 German fighter defences were so reduced 9DISyOazM7u-00020-00004485-00004631 that daylight bombing was possible 9DISyOazM7u-00021-00004632-00004886 without risking large losses the u.s. 9DISyOazM7u-00022-00004887-00005093 effort was by de mast formations of 9DISyOazM7u-00023-00005094-00005320 bombers with escorting fighters together 9DISyOazM7u-00024-00005321-00005504 they made up around-the-clock bombing 9DISyOazM7u-00025-00005505-00005660 effort except where weather conditions 9DISyOazM7u-00026-00005661-00005933 prevented operations the point-blank 9DISyOazM7u-00027-00005934-00006070 directive initiated operation 9DISyOazM7u-00028-00006071-00006268 point-blank that was the codename for 9DISyOazM7u-00029-00006269-00006409 the primary portion of the Allied 9DISyOazM7u-00030-00006411-00006592 combined bomber offensive intended to 9DISyOazM7u-00031-00006593-00006748 [__] or destroy the German aircraft 9DISyOazM7u-00032-00006750-00006928 fighter strength thus drawing it away 9DISyOazM7u-00033-00006929-00007127 from frontline operations and ensuring 9DISyOazM7u-00034-00007128-00007262 it would not be an obstacle to the 9DISyOazM7u-00035-00007263-00007478 invasion of northwest Europe the 9DISyOazM7u-00036-00007479-00007658 point-blank directive of the 14th of 9DISyOazM7u-00037-00007659-00007921 June 1943 ordered RAF Bomber Command and 9DISyOazM7u-00038-00007922-00008123 the USA air force to bomb specific 9DISyOazM7u-00039-00008123-00008299 targets such as aircraft factories and 9DISyOazM7u-00040-00008300-00008446 the order was confirmed at the Quebec 9DISyOazM7u-00041-00008447-00008807 conference 1943 up to that point the 9DISyOazM7u-00042-00008808-00008989 Royal Air Force and United States Army 9DISyOazM7u-00043-00008990-00009185 Air Forces had mostly been attacking 9DISyOazM7u-00044-00009186-00009364 German industry in their own way the 9DISyOazM7u-00045-00009365-00009524 British by broad night attacks on 9DISyOazM7u-00046-00009525-00009692 industrial areas in the u.s. in 9DISyOazM7u-00047-00009693-00010003 precision attacks on specific targets 9DISyOazM7u-00048-00010004-00010192 the operational execution of the 9DISyOazM7u-00049-00010193-00010355 directive was left to the commanders of 9DISyOazM7u-00050-00010356-00010538 the forces and as such even after the 9DISyOazM7u-00051-00010539-00010703 directive the British continued in night 9DISyOazM7u-00052-00010704-00010846 attacks and the majority of the attacks 9DISyOazM7u-00053-00010847-00011249 on German fighter production topic 9DISyOazM7u-00054-00011250-00011438 Casablanca directive both the British in 9DISyOazM7u-00055-00011439-00011581 the u.s. through the air war plans 9DISyOazM7u-00056-00011582-00011753 division had drawn up their plans for 9DISyOazM7u-00057-00011754-00012010 attacking the Axis powers after the 9DISyOazM7u-00058-00012011-00012176 British Ministry of economic warfare 9DISyOazM7u-00059-00012177-00012388 news published the Bombers Baedeker in 9DISyOazM7u-00060-00012389-00012631 1942 that identified the bottleneck 9DISyOazM7u-00061-00012632-00012854 German industries of oil communications 9DISyOazM7u-00062-00012855-00013058 and ball bearings the combined Chiefs of 9DISyOazM7u-00063-00013059-00013277 Staff agreed at the January 1943 9DISyOazM7u-00064-00013278-00013372 Casablanca 9DISyOazM7u-00065-00013374-00013487 conference to conduct the bomber 9DISyOazM7u-00066-00013488-00013661 offensive from the United Kingdom and 9DISyOazM7u-00067-00013662-00013816 the British Air Ministry issued the 9DISyOazM7u-00068-00013818-00013979 Casablanca directive on the 4th of 9DISyOazM7u-00069-00013980-00014108 February with the object of the 9DISyOazM7u-00070-00014109-00014282 progressive destruction and dislocation 9DISyOazM7u-00071-00014283-00014468 of the German military industrial and 9DISyOazM7u-00072-00014469-00014638 economic systems and the undermining of 9DISyOazM7u-00073-00014640-00014810 the morale of the German people to a 9DISyOazM7u-00074-00014811-00014969 point where their capacity for armed 9DISyOazM7u-00075-00014969-00015212 resistance is fatally weakened every 9DISyOazM7u-00076-00015213-00015380 opportunity to be taken to attack 9DISyOazM7u-00077-00015381-00015569 Germany by day to destroy objectives 9DISyOazM7u-00078-00015569-00015740 that are unsuitable for night attack to 9DISyOazM7u-00079-00015741-00015919 sustain continuous pressure on German 9DISyOazM7u-00080-00015921-00016133 morale to impose heavy losses on German 9DISyOazM7u-00081-00016134-00016322 day fighter force in to conserve German 9DISyOazM7u-00082-00016322-00016484 fighter force away from the Russian and 9DISyOazM7u-00083-00016485-00016640 Mediterranean theatres of war after 9DISyOazM7u-00084-00016641-00016841 initiating the preparation of a u.s. 9DISyOazM7u-00085-00016842-00017156 targeting plan on December 9th 1942 1 on 9DISyOazM7u-00086-00017157-00017492 March 24th 1943 general HAP Arnold the 9DISyOazM7u-00087-00017493-00017705 usaaf commander requested target 9DISyOazM7u-00088-00017706-00017885 information from the British to and the 9DISyOazM7u-00089-00017886-00018035 report of committee of Operations 9DISyOazM7u-00090-00018036-00018242 Analyst 3 was submitted to Arnold on 9DISyOazM7u-00091-00018243-00018482 March 8 1943 and then to the 8th Air 9DISyOazM7u-00092-00018483-00018635 Force commander as well as the British 9DISyOazM7u-00093-00018636-00018812 Air Ministry the MU and the RAF 9DISyOazM7u-00094-00018813-00018992 commander for the cola report 9DISyOazM7u-00095-00018993-00019190 recommended 18 operations during each 9DISyOazM7u-00096-00019191-00019391 three-month phase 12 in each phase were 9DISyOazM7u-00097-00019392-00019571 expected to be successful against a 9DISyOazM7u-00098-00019572-00019772 total of six vulnerable target systems 9DISyOazM7u-00099-00019773-00020072 consisting of 76 specific targets the 9DISyOazM7u-00100-00020073-00020267 six systems were one German submarine 9DISyOazM7u-00101-00020268-00020486 construction yards and bases two German 9DISyOazM7u-00102-00020487-00020687 aircraft industry three ball bearing 9DISyOazM7u-00103-00020688-00020912 manufacture for oil production five 9DISyOazM7u-00104-00020913-00021107 synthetic rubber and tires and six 9DISyOazM7u-00105-00021108-00021316 military transport vehicle production 9DISyOazM7u-00106-00021317-00021566 using the color report and information 9DISyOazM7u-00107-00021567-00021794 from the MU in April 1943 an 9DISyOazM7u-00108-00021795-00021980 anglo-american committee composed of 9DISyOazM7u-00109-00021981-00022157 British Chiefs of Staff and the American 9DISyOazM7u-00110-00022158-00022343 Joint Chiefs of Staff under Lieutenant 9DISyOazM7u-00111-00022344-00022379 General 9DISyOazM7u-00112-00022380-00022595 IRA Sica led by brigadier general 9DISyOazM7u-00113-00022596-00022843 Heyward s hansel Jr and including brig 9DISyOazM7u-00114-00022844-00023099 general Orville hi Henderson completed a 9DISyOazM7u-00115-00023100-00023243 plan for the combined bomber offensive 9DISyOazM7u-00116-00023244-00023468 from the United Kingdom which projected 9DISyOazM7u-00117-00023469-00023615 the u.s. bombers strength for the four 9DISyOazM7u-00118-00023616-00024377 phases 944 1192 1746 and 2702 bombers 9DISyOazM7u-00119-00024378-00024725 through to the 31st of march 1944 he 9DISyOazM7u-00120-00024726-00024935 added a summary and final changes such 9DISyOazM7u-00121-00024936-00025097 as if the growth of the German fighter 9DISyOazM7u-00122-00025098-00025294 strength is not arrested quickly it may 9DISyOazM7u-00123-00025295-00025475 become literally impossible to carry out 9DISyOazM7u-00124-00025476-00025633 the destruction plan intermediate 9DISyOazM7u-00125-00025635-00026220 objectives section 9DISyOazM7u-00126-00026220-00026782 topic CBO plan 9DISyOazM7u-00127-00026783-00027052 a committee under general iris Sica led 9DISyOazM7u-00128-00027052-00027255 by Brigadier General Heywood s hansel 9DISyOazM7u-00129-00027256-00027543 jr. and including Brig general Orville a 9DISyOazM7u-00130-00027544-00027733 Anderson drew up a plan for combined 9DISyOazM7u-00131-00027733-00028077 bomber operations finished in April 1943 9DISyOazM7u-00132-00028078-00028305 the plan recommended 18 operations 9DISyOazM7u-00133-00028306-00028507 during each three-month phase 12 in each 9DISyOazM7u-00134-00028508-00028689 phase were expected to be successful 9DISyOazM7u-00135-00028690-00028999 against 76 specific targets the plan 9DISyOazM7u-00136-00029000-00029164 also projected the u.s. bombers 9DISyOazM7u-00137-00029164-00029687 strengths for the four phases 944 1192 9DISyOazM7u-00138-00029688-00030102 1746 and 2702 bombers through the 31st 9DISyOazM7u-00139-00030103-00030405 of march 1944 Akers combined bomber 9DISyOazM7u-00140-00030406-00030765 offensive plan was a document devised to 9DISyOazM7u-00141-00030766-00030967 help Arnold get more planes and Men for 9DISyOazM7u-00142-00030968-00031308 the 8th Air Force and not designed to 9DISyOazM7u-00143-00031309-00031486 affect British operations in any 9DISyOazM7u-00144-00031487-00031789 substantive way while the CBO plan was 9DISyOazM7u-00145-00031789-00031908 being developed the British 9DISyOazM7u-00146-00031909-00032095 independently drew up a plan in April 9DISyOazM7u-00147-00032095-00032410 1943 entitled the attack on the GAF 9DISyOazM7u-00148-00032411-00032646 which identified German fighter 9DISyOazM7u-00149-00032647-00033002 strengthes the most formidable weapon 9DISyOazM7u-00150-00033003-00033249 against our bomber offensive and 9DISyOazM7u-00151-00033250-00033465 advocated attacks on airfields by 9DISyOazM7u-00152-00033466-00033661 fighters and medium bombers and aircraft 9DISyOazM7u-00153-00033662-00033820 factories and in the case of the latter 9DISyOazM7u-00154-00033821-00034030 may have influenced targets selection by 9DISyOazM7u-00155-00034031-00034299 the 8th AF the combined Chiefs of Staff 9DISyOazM7u-00156-00034300-00034711 approved thee Iike plan on May 19th 1943 9DISyOazM7u-00157-00034712-00034962 and identified six specific target 9DISyOazM7u-00158-00034963-00035182 systems such as the German aircraft 9DISyOazM7u-00159-00035183-00035514 industry including fighter strength one 9DISyOazM7u-00160-00035515-00035749 intermediate objectives command fighter 9DISyOazM7u-00161-00035750-00036211 strength two primary objectives German 9DISyOazM7u-00162-00036212-00036511 submarine yards and bases the remainder 9DISyOazM7u-00163-00036512-00036775 of the German aircraft industry 9DISyOazM7u-00164-00036776-00036957 ball bearings 9DISyOazM7u-00165-00036958-00037202 contingent upon attacks against PST 9DISyOazM7u-00166-00037203-00037650 three secondary objectives synthetic 9DISyOazM7u-00167-00037651-00037905 rubber and tires military motor 9DISyOazM7u-00168-00037906-00038402 transport vehicles 9DISyOazM7u-00169-00038403-00038962 topic point blank directive 9DISyOazM7u-00170-00038963-00039283 on the 14th of June 1943 the combined 9DISyOazM7u-00171-00039284-00039439 Chiefs of Staff issued the point-blank 9DISyOazM7u-00172-00039440-00039631 directive which modified the February 9DISyOazM7u-00173-00039632-00039961 1943 Casablanca directive along with the 9DISyOazM7u-00174-00039962-00040162 single-engine fighters of the CBO plan 9DISyOazM7u-00175-00040163-00040375 the highest-priority point-blank targets 9DISyOazM7u-00176-00040376-00040546 with a fighter aircraft Factory since 9DISyOazM7u-00177-00040547-00040708 the Western Allied invasion of France 9DISyOazM7u-00178-00040709-00040858 could not take place without fighter 9DISyOazM7u-00179-00040859-00041227 superiority in August 1943 the Quebec 9DISyOazM7u-00180-00041228-00041374 conference upheld this change of 9DISyOazM7u-00181-00041375-00041569 priorities among the factories listed 9DISyOazM7u-00182-00041570-00041740 with a Regensburg Messerschmitt Factory 9DISyOazM7u-00183-00041741-00041902 which would be attacked at high cost in 9DISyOazM7u-00184-00041903-00042076 August the Schweinfurt ecology work 9DISyOazM7u-00185-00042077-00042265 ball-bearing attacked in october and 9DISyOazM7u-00186-00042266-00042502 also causing heavy USAF losses and the 9DISyOazM7u-00187-00042503-00042724 winner noise stat of Flugzeugwerke w NF 9DISyOazM7u-00188-00042725-00043433 which produced BF 109 fighters 9DISyOazM7u-00189-00043434-00043970 topic beginning of operations 9DISyOazM7u-00190-00043971-00044244 the combined bomber offensive began on 9DISyOazM7u-00191-00044245-00044490 the 10th of June 1943 during the British 9DISyOazM7u-00192-00044491-00044682 bombing campaign against German industry 9DISyOazM7u-00193-00044683-00044913 in the Ruhr area known as the Battle of 9DISyOazM7u-00194-00044914-00045198 the roar point-blank operations against 9DISyOazM7u-00195-00045199-00045489 the intermediate objective began on the 9DISyOazM7u-00196-00045490-00045741 14th of June and the effects a bombing 9DISyOazM7u-00197-00045742-00046110 offensive on German war effort jic four 9DISyOazM7u-00198-00046111-00046293 three two nine four by the Joint 9DISyOazM7u-00199-00046294-00046470 Intelligence subcommittee was issued the 9DISyOazM7u-00200-00046471-00046767 22nd of July 1943 losses during the 9DISyOazM7u-00201-00046768-00046953 first months of point-blank operations 9DISyOazM7u-00202-00046954-00047091 and lower than planned u.s. bomber 9DISyOazM7u-00203-00047092-00047268 production resulted in chief of the Air 9DISyOazM7u-00204-00047269-00047445 Staff Sir Charles Portal complaining 9DISyOazM7u-00205-00047446-00047637 about the three-month CBO delay at the 9DISyOazM7u-00206-00047638-00047784 Cairo conference where the British 9DISyOazM7u-00207-00047785-00048000 refused a u.s. request to place the CBO 9DISyOazM7u-00208-00048001-00048261 under a single halide strategic air 9DISyOazM7u-00209-00048262-00048510 commander after Arnold submitted the 9DISyOazM7u-00210-00048511-00048861 October 9th 1943 plan to assure the most 9DISyOazM7u-00211-00048862-00049071 effective exploitation of the combined 9DISyOazM7u-00212-00049072-00049425 bomber offensive on October 22nd the 9DISyOazM7u-00213-00049426-00049728 Allied Joint Chiefs of Staff signed 9DISyOazM7u-00214-00049729-00049968 orders to raid the aircraft industries 9DISyOazM7u-00215-00049969-00050142 in the southern Germany and Austria 9DISyOazM7u-00216-00050143-00050502 regions July 1943 was the first time 9DISyOazM7u-00217-00050503-00050715 that the USAAF would coordinate a raid 9DISyOazM7u-00218-00050716-00050967 on the same location as the RAF they 9DISyOazM7u-00219-00050968-00051156 were to fly to daylight missions against 9DISyOazM7u-00220-00051157-00051387 industrial targets u-boat pens and yards 9DISyOazM7u-00221-00051388-00051579 in Hamburg following the opening rate of 9DISyOazM7u-00222-00051579-00051840 the RAF campaign against Hamburg however 9DISyOazM7u-00223-00051841-00052004 fires started by the night's bombing 9DISyOazM7u-00224-00052005-00052263 obscured the targets in the USAAF were 9DISyOazM7u-00225-00052264-00052635 not keen to follow RAF raids in the 9DISyOazM7u-00226-00052636-00052962 future in October 1943 Air Chief Marshal 9DISyOazM7u-00227-00052963-00053223 Arthur Harris C&C of RAF Bomber Command 9DISyOazM7u-00228-00053224-00053412 writing to his superior urged the 9DISyOazM7u-00229-00053413-00053550 British government to be honest to the 9DISyOazM7u-00230-00053551-00053709 public regarding the purpose of the 9DISyOazM7u-00231-00053710-00053859 bombing campaign and openly announced 9DISyOazM7u-00232-00053860-00054102 that the aim of the combined bomber 9DISyOazM7u-00233-00054103-00054444 offensive should be unambiguously and 9DISyOazM7u-00234-00054445-00054666 publicly stated that aim is the 9DISyOazM7u-00235-00054666-00054852 destruction of German cities the killing 9DISyOazM7u-00236-00054853-00055026 of German workers and the disruption of 9DISyOazM7u-00237-00055027-00055296 civilized life throughout Germany it 9DISyOazM7u-00238-00055297-00055419 should be emphasized that the 9DISyOazM7u-00239-00055420-00055620 destruction of houses public utilities 9DISyOazM7u-00240-00055621-00055817 transport and lives the creation of a 9DISyOazM7u-00241-00055819-00055965 refugee problem on an unprecedented 9DISyOazM7u-00242-00055966-00056178 scale and the breakdown of morale both 9DISyOazM7u-00243-00056179-00056352 at home and at the battle fronts by fear 9DISyOazM7u-00244-00056353-00056544 of extended and intensified bombing are 9DISyOazM7u-00245-00056545-00056648 accepted and intended 9DISyOazM7u-00246-00056649-00056894 aims of our bombing policy they are not 9DISyOazM7u-00247-00056895-00057097 byproducts of attempts to hit factories 9DISyOazM7u-00248-00057098-00057557 on February 13 1944 the CCS issued a new 9DISyOazM7u-00249-00057558-00057836 plan for the bomber offensive which no 9DISyOazM7u-00250-00057837-00058010 longer included German morale in the 9DISyOazM7u-00251-00058011-00058190 objective progressive destruction and 9DISyOazM7u-00252-00058191-00058328 dislocation of the German military 9DISyOazM7u-00253-00058329-00058556 industrial and economic systems the 9DISyOazM7u-00254-00058557-00058739 disruption of vital elements of lines of 9DISyOazM7u-00255-00058740-00058928 communication and the material reduction 9DISyOazM7u-00256-00058929-00059084 of German air combat strength by the 9DISyOazM7u-00257-00059085-00059270 successful prosecution of the combined 9DISyOazM7u-00258-00059271-00059438 bomber offensive from all convenient 9DISyOazM7u-00259-00059439-00059933 bases section 2 concept overall 9DISyOazM7u-00260-00059934-00060119 reduction of German air combat strength 9DISyOazM7u-00261-00060120-00060281 in its factories on the ground and in 9DISyOazM7u-00262-00060282-00060431 the air through mutually supporting 9DISyOazM7u-00263-00060432-00060620 attacks by both Strategic Air Force is 9DISyOazM7u-00264-00060621-00060740 pursued with relentless determination 9DISyOazM7u-00265-00060741-00061007 against same target areas or systems so 9DISyOazM7u-00266-00061008-00061193 far as tactical conditions allow in 9DISyOazM7u-00267-00061194-00061376 order to create the air situation most 9DISyOazM7u-00268-00061377-00061553 propitious for Overlord his immediate 9DISyOazM7u-00269-00061554-00061766 purpose of bomber offensive the subject 9DISyOazM7u-00270-00061767-00061934 of morale had been dropped and the 9DISyOazM7u-00271-00061935-00062135 number of cities with targets gave me a 9DISyOazM7u-00272-00062136-00062468 wide range of choice the new 9DISyOazM7u-00273-00062469-00062630 instructions therefore made no 9DISyOazM7u-00274-00062631-00062879 difference to RAF Bomber Command 9DISyOazM7u-00275-00062880-00063137 operations Arthur Harris 5 the February 9DISyOazM7u-00276-00063138-00063307 13th plan was given the codename 9DISyOazM7u-00277-00063308-00063572 argument and after the weather became 9DISyOazM7u-00278-00063573-00063806 favorable On February 19th argument 9DISyOazM7u-00279-00063807-00063977 operations were conducted during big 9DISyOazM7u-00280-00063978-00064181 week February 20 to 25 9DISyOazM7u-00281-00064182-00064430 Harris claimed the argument plan was not 9DISyOazM7u-00282-00064431-00064751 a reasonable operation of war and the 9DISyOazM7u-00283-00064752-00064922 air staff had to order Harris to bomb 9DISyOazM7u-00284-00064923-00065107 the point-blank targets at Schweinfurt 9DISyOazM7u-00285-00065108-00065399 6 in practice the USAAF Bombers made 9DISyOazM7u-00286-00065400-00065576 large-scale daylight attacks on 9DISyOazM7u-00287-00065577-00065744 factories involved in the production of 9DISyOazM7u-00288-00065745-00065978 fighter aircraft the Luftwaffe was 9DISyOazM7u-00289-00065979-00066143 forced into defending against these 9DISyOazM7u-00290-00066144-00066311 raids and its fighters were drawn into 9DISyOazM7u-00291-00066312-00066962 battle with the Bombers in their escorts 9DISyOazM7u-00292-00066963-00067626 topic point-blank operations following 9DISyOazM7u-00293-00067627-00067800 the heavy losses about one quarter of 9DISyOazM7u-00294-00067801-00068121 the aircraft of Black Thursday the 14th 9DISyOazM7u-00295-00068122-00068463 of October 1943 the USAAF discontinued 9DISyOazM7u-00296-00068464-00068637 strikes deep into Germany until an 9DISyOazM7u-00297-00068638-00068796 escort was introduced that could follow 9DISyOazM7u-00298-00068797-00069047 the Bombers torn from their targets in 9DISyOazM7u-00299-00069048-00069426 1944 the USAAF bombers now escorted by 9DISyOazM7u-00300-00069427-00069702 p-47 Thunderbolts and p-51 Mustangs 9DISyOazM7u-00301-00069703-00069948 renewed their operation generally car 9DISyOazM7u-00302-00069949-00070182 gave you a to destroy the enemy air 9DISyOazM7u-00303-00070183-00070392 force wherever you find them in the air 9DISyOazM7u-00304-00070393-00070628 on the ground and in the factories 9DISyOazM7u-00305-00070629-00070863 general echo was replaced at the start 9DISyOazM7u-00306-00070864-00071118 of 1944 as 8th Air Force commander by 9DISyOazM7u-00307-00071119-00071310 then major general Jimmy Doolittle the 9DISyOazM7u-00308-00071311-00071478 leader who first struck Japan in April 9DISyOazM7u-00309-00071479-00071817 1942 with a force of 16 b-25 Mitchell 9DISyOazM7u-00310-00071818-00072056 bombers partly to damage Japanese morale 9DISyOazM7u-00311-00072057-00072264 Doolittle's major influence on the 9DISyOazM7u-00312-00072265-00072534 European air war occurred early in 1944 9DISyOazM7u-00313-00072535-00072779 when he changed the earlier 1942-43 9DISyOazM7u-00314-00072780-00073029 usaaf policy requiring a scouring 9DISyOazM7u-00315-00073030-00073185 fighters to remain with the Bombers at 9DISyOazM7u-00316-00073186-00073458 all times with his permission initially 9DISyOazM7u-00317-00073459-00073728 performed with p38 and p-47s with both 9DISyOazM7u-00318-00073729-00073917 previous types being steadily replaced 9DISyOazM7u-00319-00073918-00074130 with the long-range p-51s as the spring 9DISyOazM7u-00320-00074131-00074394 of 1944 wore on some American fighter 9DISyOazM7u-00321-00074395-00074577 pilots on bomber escort missions would 9DISyOazM7u-00322-00074578-00074760 primarily fly far ahead of the Bombers 9DISyOazM7u-00323-00074761-00074940 combat box formations in air supremacy 9DISyOazM7u-00324-00074941-00075294 mode clearing the skies of any Luftwaffe 9DISyOazM7u-00325-00075295-00075459 fighter opposition heading towards the 9DISyOazM7u-00326-00075460-00075504 target 9DISyOazM7u-00327-00075505-00075705 this strategy fatally disabled the 9DISyOazM7u-00328-00075706-00075870 vulnerable twin engines earth storage 9DISyOazM7u-00329-00075871-00076023 shweder heavy fighter wings in their 9DISyOazM7u-00330-00076024-00076221 replacement single-engine stone weapon 9DISyOazM7u-00331-00076222-00076470 of heavily-armed fw 190s clearing each 9DISyOazM7u-00332-00076471-00076608 force of bomber destroyers from 9DISyOazM7u-00333-00076609-00076881 Germany's skies throughout early 1944 as 9DISyOazM7u-00334-00076882-00077127 part of this game-changing strategy 9DISyOazM7u-00335-00077128-00077301 especially after the bombers had hit 9DISyOazM7u-00336-00077302-00077517 their targets the USAF's fighters were 9DISyOazM7u-00337-00077518-00077700 then free to strafe German airfields and 9DISyOazM7u-00338-00077701-00077850 transport while returning to base 9DISyOazM7u-00339-00077851-00078018 contributing significantly to the 9DISyOazM7u-00340-00078019-00078228 achievement of air superiority by Allied 9DISyOazM7u-00341-00078229-00078504 air forces over Europe soon after 9DISyOazM7u-00342-00078505-00078657 Doolittle took command of the 8th Air 9DISyOazM7u-00343-00078658-00079005 Force between February 20th and 25 1944 9DISyOazM7u-00344-00079006-00079206 as part of the combined bomber offensive 9DISyOazM7u-00345-00079207-00079452 the usaaf launched operation argument a 9DISyOazM7u-00346-00079453-00079608 series of missions against the Third 9DISyOazM7u-00347-00079609-00079905 Reich that became known as big week the 9DISyOazM7u-00348-00079906-00080073 Luftwaffe was lured into a decisive 9DISyOazM7u-00349-00080074-00080196 battle for air soup 9DISyOazM7u-00350-00080197-00080396 through launching massive attacks by the 9DISyOazM7u-00351-00080397-00080612 Bombers of the usaaf protected by 9DISyOazM7u-00352-00080613-00080861 squadrons of Republic p-47 Thunderbolts 9DISyOazM7u-00353-00080862-00081083 in North American p-51 Mustangs on the 9DISyOazM7u-00354-00081084-00081359 German aircraft industry in defeating 9DISyOazM7u-00355-00081360-00081548 the Luftwaffe the Allies achieved air 9DISyOazM7u-00356-00081549-00081749 superiority and the invasion of Western 9DISyOazM7u-00357-00081750-00082280 Europe could proceed 9DISyOazM7u-00358-00082281-00082807 topic Battle of Berlin 9DISyOazM7u-00359-00082808-00083005 the wording of both the casablanca 9DISyOazM7u-00360-00083006-00083169 directive and the point-blank directive 9DISyOazM7u-00361-00083170-00083335 allowed the commander-in-chief of RAF 9DISyOazM7u-00362-00083336-00083584 Bomber Command Arthur bomber Harris 9DISyOazM7u-00363-00083585-00083782 sufficiently way to continue the British 9DISyOazM7u-00364-00083783-00083982 campaign of nighttime area bombardment 9DISyOazM7u-00365-00083983-00084169 against German industrial cities between 9DISyOazM7u-00366-00084170-00084501 the 18th of November 1943 in the 31st of 9DISyOazM7u-00367-00084502-00084772 March 1944 RAF Bomber Command fought the 9DISyOazM7u-00368-00084773-00084979 Battle of Berlin which consisted of 16 9DISyOazM7u-00369-00084980-00085125 major raids on the German capital 9DISyOazM7u-00370-00085126-00085330 interspersed with many other major and 9DISyOazM7u-00371-00085331-00085519 minor raids across Germany to reduce the 9DISyOazM7u-00372-00085520-00085696 predictability of the British operations 9DISyOazM7u-00373-00085697-00085975 in these 16 raids the RAF destroyed 9DISyOazM7u-00374-00085976-00086296 around 4,500 acres 18 square kilometers 9DISyOazM7u-00375-00086297-00086523 a Berlin for the loss of 300 aircraft 9DISyOazM7u-00376-00086524-00086757 Harris had planned to reduce most of the 9DISyOazM7u-00377-00086758-00086950 city to rubble break German morale and 9DISyOazM7u-00378-00086951-00087211 so in the war during the period of the 9DISyOazM7u-00379-00087212-00087517 Battle of Berlin the British lost 1047 9DISyOazM7u-00380-00087518-00087637 bombers across all its bombing 9DISyOazM7u-00381-00087638-00087957 operations in Europe with a further 1682 9DISyOazM7u-00382-00087958-00088153 aircraft damaged culminating in the 9DISyOazM7u-00383-00088154-00088369 disastrous raid on Nuremberg on the 30th 9DISyOazM7u-00384-00088370-00088678 of March 1944 the campaign did not 9DISyOazM7u-00385-00088679-00088857 achieve its strategic objective and 9DISyOazM7u-00386-00088858-00089092 coupled to the RAF unsustainable losses 9DISyOazM7u-00387-00089093-00089313 7 to 12 percent of aircraft committed to 9DISyOazM7u-00388-00089314-00089479 the large raids the official British 9DISyOazM7u-00389-00089480-00089638 historians identified it as an 9DISyOazM7u-00390-00089639-00089890 operational defeat for the RAF at the 9DISyOazM7u-00391-00089891-00090069 end of Battle of Berlin Harris was 9DISyOazM7u-00392-00090070-00090235 obliged to commit his heavy bombers to 9DISyOazM7u-00393-00090236-00090412 the attacks on lines of communications 9DISyOazM7u-00394-00090413-00090580 in France as part of the preparations 9DISyOazM7u-00395-00090581-00090736 for the Normandy landings and the RAF 9DISyOazM7u-00396-00090737-00090916 would not return to begin the systematic 9DISyOazM7u-00397-00090917-00091081 destruction of Germany until the last 9DISyOazM7u-00398-00091082-00091686 quarter of 1944 9DISyOazM7u-00399-00091687-00092229 topic point-blank outcome 9DISyOazM7u-00400-00092230-00092428 operation point-blank showed that 9DISyOazM7u-00401-00092429-00092602 Germany's aircraft and ball-bearings 9DISyOazM7u-00402-00092603-00092782 plants were not very vulnerable to air 9DISyOazM7u-00403-00092783-00092989 attack its production of synthetic 9DISyOazM7u-00404-00092990-00093241 rubber ammunition nitrogen and ethyl 9DISyOazM7u-00405-00093242-00093394 fluid was concentrated in fewer 9DISyOazM7u-00406-00093395-00093532 factories and would likely have been 9DISyOazM7u-00407-00093533-00093799 much more vulnerable despite bombing 9DISyOazM7u-00408-00093800-00094143 German single-engine fighter production 9DISyOazM7u-00409-00094144-00094549 for the first quarter of 1944 was 30% 9DISyOazM7u-00410-00094550-00094696 higher than for the third quarter of 9DISyOazM7u-00411-00094697-00094993 1943 which we may take as a base figure 9DISyOazM7u-00412-00094994-00095401 in the second quarter of 1944 it doubled 9DISyOazM7u-00413-00095402-00095680 by the third quarter of 1944 it had 9DISyOazM7u-00414-00095681-00096000 tripled in a year's time in September 9DISyOazM7u-00415-00096001-00096289 1944 monthly German single-engine 9DISyOazM7u-00416-00096290-00096469 fighter production reached its wartime 9DISyOazM7u-00417-00096470-00096919 peak 3031 fighter aircraft total German 9DISyOazM7u-00418-00096920-00097110 single-engine fighter production for 9DISyOazM7u-00419-00097111-00097423 1944 reached the amazing figure of 25 9DISyOazM7u-00420-00097424-00097675 thousand eight hundred and sixty me-109 9DISyOazM7u-00421-00097676-00098077 s and FW 190s William R Emerson 9DISyOazM7u-00422-00098078-00098326 following operation point blank Germany 9DISyOazM7u-00423-00098327-00098542 dispersed the 27 larger works of its 9DISyOazM7u-00424-00098543-00098839 aircraft industry across 729 medium and 9DISyOazM7u-00425-00098840-00099052 very small plants some in tunnels caves 9DISyOazM7u-00426-00099053-00099130 and mines 9DISyOazM7u-00427-00099131-00099334 however operation point-blank did help 9DISyOazM7u-00428-00099335-00099514 to diminish the Luftwaffe threat against 9DISyOazM7u-00429-00099515-00099703 the Allies and by the Normandy landings 9DISyOazM7u-00430-00099704-00099919 the Luftwaffe had only 80 operational 9DISyOazM7u-00431-00099920-00100102 aircraft on the North French coast which 9DISyOazM7u-00432-00100103-00100384 managed about 250 combat sorties against 9DISyOazM7u-00433-00100385-00100735 the 13,000 743 Allied sorties according 9DISyOazM7u-00434-00100736-00100906 to Charles Webster and noble Franklin's 9DISyOazM7u-00435-00100907-00101080 big week and the subsequent attack on 9DISyOazM7u-00436-00101081-00101272 the aircraft industry reduced the 9DISyOazM7u-00437-00101273-00101463 fighting capacity of the Luftwaffe 9DISyOazM7u-00438-00101464-00101656 through threatening the bombing of 9DISyOazM7u-00439-00101657-00101902 strategic targets and leaving the German 9DISyOazM7u-00440-00101903-00102103 fighters with no alternative other than 9DISyOazM7u-00441-00102104-00102417 to defend them but the combat was 9DISyOazM7u-00442-00102418-00102703 primarily forward and certainly won by 9DISyOazM7u-00443-00102704-00103291 the US long-range fighters 9DISyOazM7u-00444-00103292-00103860 topic overlord air plan 9DISyOazM7u-00445-00103861-00104139 during the winter campaign against the 9DISyOazM7u-00446-00104140-00104559 German aircraft industry January 11th 9DISyOazM7u-00447-00104560-00104985 February 22nd 1944 review began on the 9DISyOazM7u-00448-00104986-00105276 initial Overlord air plan which emitted 9DISyOazM7u-00449-00105277-00105477 the requirement to seek air superiority 9DISyOazM7u-00450-00105478-00105828 before the landings were attempted seven 9DISyOazM7u-00451-00105829-00105973 instead the plan was to bomb 9DISyOazM7u-00452-00105974-00106185 communications targets primary and rail 9DISyOazM7u-00453-00106186-00106381 yards and repair facilities secondary 9DISyOazM7u-00454-00106382-00106639 Air Marshal Trafford leigh-mallory who 9DISyOazM7u-00455-00106640-00106801 would command the tactical element of 9DISyOazM7u-00456-00106802-00106951 the invasion air forces had been 9DISyOazM7u-00457-00106952-00107181 assigned the responsibility on June 26 9DISyOazM7u-00458-00107182-00107443 1943 for drafting the plan and at the 9DISyOazM7u-00459-00107444-00107733 February 14th 1944 meeting regarding the 9DISyOazM7u-00460-00107734-00107938 Overlord air plan he claimed German 9DISyOazM7u-00461-00107939-00108102 fighters would defend and be defeated 9DISyOazM7u-00462-00108103-00108288 during the attacks on railyards and if 9DISyOazM7u-00463-00108289-00108499 not air superiority would instead be won 9DISyOazM7u-00464-00108500-00108724 over the d-day beaches 8 Harris rebutted 9DISyOazM7u-00465-00108725-00108885 that even after the planned rail attacks 9DISyOazM7u-00466-00108886-00109069 German rail traffic would be sufficient 9DISyOazM7u-00467-00109070-00109263 to supply invasion defenses and spots 9DISyOazM7u-00468-00109264-00109461 proposed attacks on industry in Germany 9DISyOazM7u-00469-00109463-00109614 to require fighters to be moved away 9DISyOazM7u-00470-00109615-00109798 from the Overlord beaches to defend the 9DISyOazM7u-00471-00109799-00110040 plants Tedder concluded that a committee 9DISyOazM7u-00472-00110041-00110200 meeting to study the pre Overlord 9DISyOazM7u-00473-00110201-00110374 targeting but when the committee met in 9DISyOazM7u-00474-00110375-00110583 March no consensus was reached on March 9DISyOazM7u-00475-00110584-00110857 25th 1944 portal chaired a meeting of 9DISyOazM7u-00476-00110858-00110985 the generals and restated the 9DISyOazM7u-00477-00110986-00111129 point-blank objective of air superiority 9DISyOazM7u-00478-00111130-00111378 was still the highest CBO priority 9DISyOazM7u-00479-00111379-00111745 although their Joint Chiefs of Staff had 9DISyOazM7u-00480-00111746-00111915 previously argued that it was impossible 9DISyOazM7u-00481-00111916-00112134 to impede German military rail traffic 9DISyOazM7u-00482-00112135-00112324 due to the large reserve capacity for 9DISyOazM7u-00483-00112325-00112531 the secondary priority portal identified 9DISyOazM7u-00484-00112532-00112720 that pre-invasion railyard attacks only 9DISyOazM7u-00485-00112721-00112926 needed to reduce traffic so tactical air 9DISyOazM7u-00486-00112927-00113091 power could inhibit enemy defenses 9DISyOazM7u-00487-00113092-00113283 during the first five weeks of overlord 9DISyOazM7u-00488-00113284-00113526 Sir John Kennedy and Andrew noble 9DISyOazM7u-00489-00113527-00113688 counted that the military fraction of 9DISyOazM7u-00490-00113689-00113875 rail traffic was so small that no amount 9DISyOazM7u-00491-00113876-00114015 of rail yard bombing would significantly 9DISyOazM7u-00492-00114016-00114298 impact operations 9 as endorsed on March 9DISyOazM7u-00493-00114299-00114489 6th by the MU and the US mission for 9DISyOazM7u-00494-00114490-00114697 Economic Affairs spots again proposed 9DISyOazM7u-00495-00114698-00114925 that execution of the oil plan would 9DISyOazM7u-00496-00114926-00115081 force the enemy to reduce oil 9DISyOazM7u-00497-00115082-00115756 consumption and fighting power during 9DISyOazM7u-00498-00115757-00115993 overlord 10 although concerned that 9DISyOazM7u-00499-00115994-00116208 military transportation experts of the 9DISyOazM7u-00500-00116209-00116414 British Army had not been consulted 9DISyOazM7u-00501-00116415-00116713 about the transportation plan Eisenhower 9DISyOazM7u-00502-00116714-00116926 decided that apart from the attack on 9DISyOazM7u-00503-00116927-00117133 the GAF german air force the 9DISyOazM7u-00504-00117133-00117256 transportation plan 9DISyOazM7u-00505-00117257-00117399 was the only one which offered a 9DISyOazM7u-00506-00117400-00117588 reasonable chance of the air forces 9DISyOazM7u-00507-00117589-00117793 making an important contribution to the 9DISyOazM7u-00508-00117794-00117997 land battle during the first vital weeks 9DISyOazM7u-00509-00117998-00118324 of overlord 11 control of all air 9DISyOazM7u-00510-00118325-00118509 operations was transferred to Eisenhower 9DISyOazM7u-00511-00118510-00118722 on April 14th at noon 9DISyOazM7u-00512-00118723-00119064 however after very few German fighters 9DISyOazM7u-00513-00119065-00119257 rose to contest the early attacks on 9DISyOazM7u-00514-00119258-00119583 French railyards and the 9th tactical 9DISyOazM7u-00515-00119584-00119835 AAF in England had dropped 33,000 tons 9DISyOazM7u-00516-00119836-00120000 of bombs through April on French railway 9DISyOazM7u-00517-00120001-00120223 targets Churchill wrote to Roosevelt in 9DISyOazM7u-00518-00120224-00120501 May 1944 that he was not convinced of 9DISyOazM7u-00519-00120502-00120643 the wisdom of this plan 9DISyOazM7u-00520-00120644-00120883 although Teddy's original Overlord air 9DISyOazM7u-00521-00120883-00121072 directive in mid-april listed no oil 9DISyOazM7u-00522-00121073-00121278 targets Eisenhower permitted spots to 9DISyOazM7u-00523-00121279-00121449 test that the Luftwaffe would defend oil 9DISyOazM7u-00524-00121450-00121704 targets more heavily during the trial 9DISyOazM7u-00525-00121705-00121941 raids of May 12th and May 28th German 9DISyOazM7u-00526-00121942-00122085 fighters heavily defended the oil 9DISyOazM7u-00527-00122086-00122277 targets and after the invasion had not 9DISyOazM7u-00528-00122278-00122427 begun during the good weather of May 9DISyOazM7u-00529-00122428-00122604 Luftwaffe fighters in France were 9DISyOazM7u-00530-00122605-00122821 recalled to defend reich industry 12 the 9DISyOazM7u-00531-00122822-00122991 german plan was to await the invasion 9DISyOazM7u-00532-00122992-00123208 and then on the keywords threatening 9DISyOazM7u-00533-00123208-00123481 danger West redeploy fighter strength 9DISyOazM7u-00534-00123482-00123666 back to unused French air bases when 9DISyOazM7u-00535-00123667-00123936 needed against the invasion the last two 9DISyOazM7u-00536-00123937-00124014 jagdish Shwetha 9DISyOazM7u-00537-00124015-00124386 26 fw 190 is piloted by Joseph pilla and 9DISyOazM7u-00538-00124387-00124560 his wingman Heinz water check that were 9DISyOazM7u-00539-00124561-00124732 to be recalled conducted two of the very 9DISyOazM7u-00540-00124733-00124926 sparse Luftwaffe day sorties over the 9DISyOazM7u-00541-00124927-00125194 Normandy beaches on d-day 13 and on June 9DISyOazM7u-00542-00125195-00125349 7 eighths the Luftwaffe began 9DISyOazM7u-00543-00125350-00125658 redeploying sea 600 aircraft to France 9DISyOazM7u-00544-00125659-00125818 for attacking the Normandy bridgehead 9DISyOazM7u-00545-00125819-00125998 point-blank operations ended on the 9DISyOazM7u-00546-00125999-00126141 fifth day of the invasion and the 9DISyOazM7u-00547-00126142-00126315 highest priority of the combined bomber 9DISyOazM7u-00548-00126316-00126510 offensive became operations against the 9DISyOazM7u-00549-00126511-00126765 German rocket weapons in June 1944 and 9DISyOazM7u-00550-00126766-00126914 the oil campaign in September 9DISyOazM7u-00551-00126915-00127183 Teddy's proposal to keep oil targets as 9DISyOazM7u-00552-00127183-00127416 the highest priority in place Germany's 9DISyOazM7u-00553-00127417-00127701 rail system in second priority was 9DISyOazM7u-00554-00127702-00128008 approved by the CS TC on November 1st 14 9DISyOazM7u-00555-00128008-00128299 on April 12 1945 strategic bombing 9DISyOazM7u-00556-00128300-00128494 directive number 4 ended the strategic 9DISyOazM7u-00557-00128495-00129085 bombing campaign in Europe 9DISyOazM7u-00558-00129086-00129610 topic C also 9DISyOazM7u-00559-00129611-00129972 operation crossbow oil campaign of world 9DISyOazM7u-00560-00129973-00130627 war ii transportation plan 9DISyOazM7u-00561-00130628-00131116 topic nodes 9DISyOazM7u-00562-00131117-00131569 notes citations 9EV2h_vNy6A-00000-00000035-00000269 hi guys and welcome back in this video 9EV2h_vNy6A-00001-00000270-00000580 let me tell you about Ginger 2. Ginger 2 9EV2h_vNy6A-00002-00000581-00000821 is another python library that comes 9EV2h_vNy6A-00003-00000822-00001157 installed with flask and it allows us to 9EV2h_vNy6A-00004-00001158-00001439 essentially interpolate or put stuff 9EV2h_vNy6A-00005-00001440-00001709 into other strings and those other 9EV2h_vNy6A-00006-00001710-00001810 strings that we're going to be putting 9EV2h_vNy6A-00007-00001811-00002009 stuff into throughout the course are 9EV2h_vNy6A-00008-00002010-00002279 HTML strings so Ginger 2 is very 9EV2h_vNy6A-00009-00002280-00002489 important and it works very well with 9EV2h_vNy6A-00010-00002490-00002650 flask because they're actually developed 9EV2h_vNy6A-00011-00002651-00002950 by the same person let's get started 9EV2h_vNy6A-00012-00002951-00003335 a template is any string of text that 9EV2h_vNy6A-00013-00003336-00003622 contains placeholders for the template 9EV2h_vNy6A-00014-00003623-00003809 language to be able to replace those 9EV2h_vNy6A-00015-00003810-00004097 placeholders by something else the 9EV2h_vNy6A-00016-00004098-00004379 syntax used for the placeholders and the 9EV2h_vNy6A-00017-00004380-00004541 whole syntax of the template as a whole 9EV2h_vNy6A-00018-00004542-00004847 is known as a template language and the 9EV2h_vNy6A-00019-00004848-00004997 underlying code that evaluates the 9EV2h_vNy6A-00020-00004998-00005225 template and puts the new values in is 9EV2h_vNy6A-00021-00005226-00005441 called a template engine flask it comes 9EV2h_vNy6A-00022-00005442-00005675 with the powerful Ginger 2 template 9EV2h_vNy6A-00023-00005676-00005861 language so let me show you a little bit 9EV2h_vNy6A-00024-00005862-00006101 about how that works what I'm going to 9EV2h_vNy6A-00025-00006102-00006286 do is I'm going to do from Ginger to 9EV2h_vNy6A-00026-00006287-00006581 import template and notice that here I'm 9EV2h_vNy6A-00027-00006581-00006839 running in the python reple or the 9EV2h_vNy6A-00028-00006840-00007048 interactive interpreter and that's 9EV2h_vNy6A-00029-00007050-00007264 totally fine for the purposes of this 9EV2h_vNy6A-00030-00007265-00007445 video but normally we're going to be 9EV2h_vNy6A-00031-00007445-00007691 using Ginger 2 in our flask app as 9EV2h_vNy6A-00032-00007692-00007846 normal here I'm just going to give you a 9EV2h_vNy6A-00033-00007847-00008014 quick overview of how it works and then 9EV2h_vNy6A-00034-00008015-00008189 we're going to go into our flask app and 9EV2h_vNy6A-00035-00008190-00008453 include Ginger 2 in there so let's 9EV2h_vNy6A-00036-00008454-00008764 define a Ginger 2 template for example I 9EV2h_vNy6A-00037-00008765-00009028 can do something like a template played 9EV2h_vNy6A-00038-00009029-00009292 equal template and this is going to 9EV2h_vNy6A-00039-00009293-00009539 create an object of the template class 9EV2h_vNy6A-00040-00009540-00009803 and I'm going to do hello and then 9EV2h_vNy6A-00041-00009804-00010096 double curly braces name double curly 9EV2h_vNy6A-00042-00010097-00010324 braces again this creates a template 9EV2h_vNy6A-00043-00010325-00010631 object and the template string is hello 9EV2h_vNy6A-00044-00010632-00010823 and then the double curly brace name 9EV2h_vNy6A-00045-00010824-00011056 double calibrates the double calibrates 9EV2h_vNy6A-00046-00011057-00011278 notation is the Ginger 2 notation for 9EV2h_vNy6A-00047-00011279-00011549 interpolation which means we can now 9EV2h_vNy6A-00048-00011550-00011831 pass in a variable that will replace 9EV2h_vNy6A-00049-00011832-00012203 this by some other value for example 9EV2h_vNy6A-00050-00012204-00012395 template.render 9EV2h_vNy6A-00051-00012396-00012731 I'm going to say name equal John Doe and 9EV2h_vNy6A-00052-00012732-00012966 notice that Ginger 2 takes a template 9EV2h_vNy6A-00053-00012967-00013288 interpolates this variable into it and 9EV2h_vNy6A-00054-00013290-00013571 gives us back the resultant string we 9EV2h_vNy6A-00055-00013572-00013738 can do the same thing but instead of 9EV2h_vNy6A-00056-00013740-00013991 John Doe we can do template.render name 9EV2h_vNy6A-00057-00013991-00014272 equal Bob Smith for example and now we 9EV2h_vNy6A-00058-00014273-00014422 get Bob Smith notice that 9EV2h_vNy6A-00059-00014423-00014621 template.render is always giving us new 9EV2h_vNy6A-00060-00014622-00014794 strings and leaving the template 9EV2h_vNy6A-00061-00014795-00015016 unchanged so that we can come back and 9EV2h_vNy6A-00062-00015018-00015191 use a different name on the same 9EV2h_vNy6A-00063-00015191-00015419 template if we want now that we've seen 9EV2h_vNy6A-00064-00015419-00015665 this let's go into flask and use ginger 9EV2h_vNy6A-00065-00015666-00015994 2 to do the exact same thing but inside 9EV2h_vNy6A-00066-00015995-00016319 one of our HTML files instead of here in 9EV2h_vNy6A-00067-00016319-00016535 the console so I'm here in the flask app 9EV2h_vNy6A-00068-00016536-00016811 and now you can probably start to see 9EV2h_vNy6A-00069-00016812-00017093 why this function render template is 9EV2h_vNy6A-00070-00017094-00017375 called render template what this is 9EV2h_vNy6A-00071-00017376-00017621 going to do is not only take the HTML 9EV2h_vNy6A-00072-00017622-00017807 file and send it to the user but it's 9EV2h_vNy6A-00073-00017808-00018053 first going to pass this entire file 9EV2h_vNy6A-00074-00018054-00018341 through the Ginger 2 engine so that if 9EV2h_vNy6A-00075-00018342-00018586 there's any any Ginger 2 code any 9EV2h_vNy6A-00076-00018587-00018767 variable interpolation or things like 9EV2h_vNy6A-00077-00018768-00018989 that that we can do in this file it's 9EV2h_vNy6A-00078-00018990-00019180 going to do them first and then it's 9EV2h_vNy6A-00079-00019181-00019391 going to send the result to the user 9EV2h_vNy6A-00080-00019392-00019589 note that as soon as we start 9EV2h_vNy6A-00081-00019590-00019817 interpolating values into a template 9EV2h_vNy6A-00082-00019818-00020129 this is no longer static content I'm 9EV2h_vNy6A-00083-00020130-00020441 going to delete the second file here and 9EV2h_vNy6A-00084-00020442-00020572 I'm going to delete it over in the 9EV2h_vNy6A-00085-00020573-00020861 templates folder as well then we're 9EV2h_vNy6A-00086-00020862-00021047 gonna come here and instead of first 9EV2h_vNy6A-00087-00021048-00021389 page we're gonna do Ginger intro so 9EV2h_vNy6A-00088-00021390-00021544 we're going to use this name for the 9EV2h_vNy6A-00089-00021545-00021755 file we're going to rename this and 9EV2h_vNy6A-00090-00021756-00021905 we're going to come in here and we're 9EV2h_vNy6A-00091-00021906-00022091 going to make a small change here we're 9EV2h_vNy6A-00092-00022092-00022372 going to say hello and then pass in a 9EV2h_vNy6A-00093-00022373-00022583 name notice that we're using the double 9EV2h_vNy6A-00094-00022584-00022799 curly brace notation here because this 9EV2h_vNy6A-00095-00022800-00023122 is going to come from Ginger 2 or Ginger 9EV2h_vNy6A-00096-00023123-00023285 2 is going to interpolate the name 9EV2h_vNy6A-00097-00023286-00023614 variable into this spot here 9EV2h_vNy6A-00098-00023615-00023849 and here we're going to type this is 9EV2h_vNy6A-00099-00023850-00024239 your introduction to template name or 9EV2h_vNy6A-00100-00024240-00024443 language let's say then we're going to 9EV2h_vNy6A-00101-00024444-00024658 interpolate a new variable into that as 9EV2h_vNy6A-00102-00024659-00024886 well so we have two placeholders name 9EV2h_vNy6A-00103-00024887-00025192 and template underscore name now in 9EV2h_vNy6A-00104-00025193-00025421 Python when we render the template we 9EV2h_vNy6A-00105-00025422-00025618 have to give it the values that we want 9EV2h_vNy6A-00106-00025619-00025846 to interpolate so we'll do render 9EV2h_vNy6A-00107-00025847-00026014 template and I'm going to split this 9EV2h_vNy6A-00108-00026016-00026158 into two lines just so it's a little bit 9EV2h_vNy6A-00109-00026160-00026387 easier to see and we're going to do name 9EV2h_vNy6A-00110-00026388-00026627 equal Bob Smith 9EV2h_vNy6A-00111-00026627-00026920 and the template name is going to be 9EV2h_vNy6A-00112-00026922-00027335 Ginger 2. now let's run this and you can 9EV2h_vNy6A-00113-00027336-00027485 see that when we load the page we get 9EV2h_vNy6A-00114-00027486-00027701 hello Bob Smith and this is your 9EV2h_vNy6A-00115-00027702-00027887 introduction to Ginger 2 language 9EV2h_vNy6A-00116-00027888-00028157 obviously this here is not that great 9EV2h_vNy6A-00117-00028158-00028408 but we can make this better 9EV2h_vNy6A-00118-00028410-00028589 to the Ginger 2 templating language 9EV2h_vNy6A-00119-00028589-00028840 let's say if we were using the Django 9EV2h_vNy6A-00120-00028841-00028990 templating language which is another one 9EV2h_vNy6A-00121-00028991-00029146 that exists we can just replace that 9EV2h_vNy6A-00122-00029147-00029489 there and we do need to restart the app 9EV2h_vNy6A-00123-00029489-00029723 when we do that but when we reset the 9EV2h_vNy6A-00124-00029724-00030017 app you can see that this changes we 9EV2h_vNy6A-00125-00030018-00030305 don't need to restart the app though if 9EV2h_vNy6A-00126-00030306-00030629 this variable was Dynamic so if the user 9EV2h_vNy6A-00127-00030630-00030911 had somehow told us what value they want 9EV2h_vNy6A-00128-00030912-00031145 in here we wouldn't need to restart the 9EV2h_vNy6A-00129-00031145-00031312 app then that is really the whole point 9EV2h_vNy6A-00130-00031313-00031577 of using Ginger 2. we come to that later 9EV2h_vNy6A-00131-00031577-00031762 on but don't worry every time you make a 9EV2h_vNy6A-00132-00031763-00031924 change to the data in the template you 9EV2h_vNy6A-00133-00031925-00032081 don't have to restart the app but every 9EV2h_vNy6A-00134-00032082-00032249 time you make a change to the template 9EV2h_vNy6A-00135-00032250-00032507 itself then you do have to restart the 9EV2h_vNy6A-00136-00032508-00032668 app because plus doesn't see that this 9EV2h_vNy6A-00137-00032669-00032855 change has happened and it can't refresh 9EV2h_vNy6A-00138-00032856-00033046 it for you that's everything for this 9EV2h_vNy6A-00139-00033047-00033257 video thank you guys for watching and 9EV2h_vNy6A-00140-00033258-00033383 joining me in this one I hope you've 9EV2h_vNy6A-00141-00033384-00033587 enjoyed it and I'll see you in the next 9EV2h_vNy6A-00142-00033588-00033812 one 9F4o30flxoA-00001-00040601-00042168 [Music] 9F4o30flxoA-00003-00050487-00052302 m 9F4o30flxoA-00009-00098589-00099639 [Music] 9F4o30flxoA-00012-00114109-00114878 [Music] 9F4o30flxoA-00017-00140795-00142414 [Music] 9F4o30flxoA-00018-00142415-00145157 [Music] 9F4o30flxoA-00020-00150655-00150831 i want to see what will happen if i 9F4o30flxoA-00021-00150832-00151111 don't give up on praying like 9F4o30flxoA-00022-00151112-00151214 that 9F4o30flxoA-00024-00177244-00179654 [Music] 9F4o30flxoA-00030-00239229-00241211 [Music] 9F4o30flxoA-00032-00250535-00253215 foreign 9F4o30flxoA-00034-00264858-00265158 [Music] 9F4o30flxoA-00035-00265159-00265459 subscribe 9Gg9qLmll2o-00000-00000125-00000380 let's take a look and see how we could 9Gg9qLmll2o-00001-00000381-00000722 visualize other multiplications okay 9Gg9qLmll2o-00002-00000723-00001106 so let's say 4 times X plus 2 for rows 9Gg9qLmll2o-00003-00001107-00001429 of X plus 2 so here's X and here's to 9Gg9qLmll2o-00004-00001430-00001751 four rows of that so that's one two 9Gg9qLmll2o-00005-00001752-00002741 three four X's and four times 2 so 4 XS 9Gg9qLmll2o-00006-00002742-00003151 plus 8 again look carefully let's 9Gg9qLmll2o-00007-00003152-00003454 visualize multiplication 4 times X plus 9Gg9qLmll2o-00008-00003455-00003842 2 for rows of X plus twos which is the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00009-00003843-00004070 same as I can just lay all the X's down 9Gg9qLmll2o-00010-00004071-00004547 first which is 4 times X and then they 9Gg9qLmll2o-00011-00004548-00004888 all the twos down which is 4 times 2 or 9Gg9qLmll2o-00012-00004889-00005324 8 multiplication distributes over 9Gg9qLmll2o-00013-00005325-00005576 addition that's what we see right here 9Gg9qLmll2o-00014-00005577-00006243 all right let's do that here's X times X 9Gg9qLmll2o-00015-00006244-00006653 so here's X times X and here's the 2 so 9Gg9qLmll2o-00016-00006654-00007498 2 X can you see so this is X this is X 9Gg9qLmll2o-00017-00007500-00007798 plus 2 so x times X plus 2 can be 9Gg9qLmll2o-00018-00007800-00008035 visualized like that it's the same as 9Gg9qLmll2o-00019-00008036-00008585 saying X times X which is x squared okay 9Gg9qLmll2o-00020-00008586-00008828 plus what Plus these things so which is 9Gg9qLmll2o-00021-00008829-00009431 1 X 2 X so 2 times X so 2 X + x squared 9Gg9qLmll2o-00022-00009432-00009937 that's the total here x squared + 2 X 9Gg9qLmll2o-00023-00009938-00010124 multiplication distributing over 9Gg9qLmll2o-00024-00010125-00010817 addition can we do that same process 9Gg9qLmll2o-00025-00010818-00011309 here so we have 23 times 35 which is the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00026-00011310-00011731 same as 23 times 30 plus 5 I can write 9Gg9qLmll2o-00027-00011732-00011989 35 as 30 plus 5 multiplication 9Gg9qLmll2o-00028-00011990-00012212 distributes over addition so let's do 9Gg9qLmll2o-00029-00012213-00012824 that ok now once you have that we still 9Gg9qLmll2o-00030-00012825-00013166 have to do 23 times 30 so 20 plus 3 9Gg9qLmll2o-00031-00013166-00013366 times 30 9Gg9qLmll2o-00032-00013366-00013666 so again we're using distributive 9Gg9qLmll2o-00033-00013668-00014006 property to multiply so 30 times 20 30 9Gg9qLmll2o-00034-00014007-00014416 times 3 5 times 20 and 5 times 3 and now 9Gg9qLmll2o-00035-00014418-00014872 let's write it all out so 600 3 times 30 9Gg9qLmll2o-00036-00014874-00015488 90 20 times 5 is 100 and 3 times 5 is 15 9Gg9qLmll2o-00037-00015488-00015809 for a total of 805 let's do a 9Gg9qLmll2o-00038-00015810-00016136 visualization of that same thing so we 9Gg9qLmll2o-00039-00016137-00016553 have 20 times 30 here that's the 600 we 9Gg9qLmll2o-00040-00016554-00016819 have 3 times 30 which is the 90 that 9Gg9qLmll2o-00041-00016820-00017267 gave us the 23 times 30 now we have so 9Gg9qLmll2o-00042-00017268-00017572 that's 23 times 30 this first part let's 9Gg9qLmll2o-00043-00017573-00018362 look at 23 times 5 now so 20 times 5 9Gg9qLmll2o-00044-00018363-00018922 which is this part here and then 3 times 9Gg9qLmll2o-00045-00018923-00019226 5 which is the 15 over here so again 9Gg9qLmll2o-00046-00019227-00019430 distributive property allows us to 9Gg9qLmll2o-00047-00019431-00019597 visualize it or you can do it 9Gg9qLmll2o-00048-00019598-00019871 algebraically in this manner most of you 9Gg9qLmll2o-00049-00019872-00020002 are probably used to seeing 9Gg9qLmll2o-00050-00020003-00020231 multiplication in this manner I want you 9Gg9qLmll2o-00051-00020232-00020516 to be able to do all 3 ways because it 9Gg9qLmll2o-00052-00020517-00020690 will give you a really good sense of 9Gg9qLmll2o-00053-00020691-00020930 what multiplication is so how do we do 9Gg9qLmll2o-00054-00020931-00021169 that so write down the numbers don't 9Gg9qLmll2o-00055-00021170-00021325 worry about decimal points we'll worry 9Gg9qLmll2o-00056-00021326-00021514 about decimal points a little bit later 9Gg9qLmll2o-00057-00021515-00022109 so 5 times 3 which is 15 but as we saw 9Gg9qLmll2o-00058-00022110-00022196 before 9Gg9qLmll2o-00059-00022197-00022478 5 times 3 15 so this is in the tenth 9Gg9qLmll2o-00060-00022479-00022838 spot so we can do a carry over 5 times 2 9Gg9qLmll2o-00061-00022839-00023291 which will give me 10 plus 1 is 11 right 9Gg9qLmll2o-00062-00023292-00023687 10 plus 1 is 11 so that will give me the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00063-00023688-00024014 115 which is this part right here can 9Gg9qLmll2o-00064-00024015-00024356 you see 5 times 20 and 5 times 3 which 9Gg9qLmll2o-00065-00024357-00024755 is 115 okay then we do where we put a 9Gg9qLmll2o-00066-00024756-00025013 little 0 here for placeholder because 9Gg9qLmll2o-00067-00025014-00025244 you're really multiplying 30 times 3 9Gg9qLmll2o-00068-00025245-00025528 that's why we put a 0 there and 3 times 9Gg9qLmll2o-00069-00025529-00025967 3 is 9 so it's technically 90 so that's 9Gg9qLmll2o-00070-00025968-00026296 this 90 that you see here and then 3 9Gg9qLmll2o-00071-00026297-00026724 times 2 which will give me 6 9Gg9qLmll2o-00072-00026725-00027030 so they'll give me 600 really which is 9Gg9qLmll2o-00073-00027031-00027420 this 600 plus 90 right here 690 and add 9Gg9qLmll2o-00074-00027420-00027672 those two together which we know how to 9Gg9qLmll2o-00075-00027673-00028563 do okay so you can write this now if 9Gg9qLmll2o-00076-00028564-00028745 there were a decimal numbers you do the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00077-00028747-00028952 same thing but then you count the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00078-00028954-00029130 decimal so if there was a decimal point 9Gg9qLmll2o-00079-00029131-00029325 here that would be one decimal point if 9Gg9qLmll2o-00080-00029326-00029558 there was a decimal point here w-2 and 9Gg9qLmll2o-00081-00029560-00029718 then you would just move your decimal 9Gg9qLmll2o-00082-00029719-00030020 point one two we'll work on that a 9Gg9qLmll2o-00083-00030022-00030519 little bit later all right try that on 9Gg9qLmll2o-00084-00030520-00031512 your own so 2x plus 3 times 3x plus 5 so 9Gg9qLmll2o-00085-00031513-00032702 we have 2x plus 3 times 3x plus 5 x in 9Gg9qLmll2o-00086-00032704-00033000 America people say foil for this kind of 9Gg9qLmll2o-00087-00033001-00033198 problems I don't like the word foil 9Gg9qLmll2o-00088-00033199-00033459 because somehow it makes it look like 9Gg9qLmll2o-00089-00033460-00033639 it's a different process when you are 9Gg9qLmll2o-00090-00033640-00033945 more than two terms so I prefer to just 9Gg9qLmll2o-00091-00033946-00034265 say multiplication distributes over 9Gg9qLmll2o-00092-00034266-00034496 addition it does not matter whether you 9Gg9qLmll2o-00093-00034497-00034785 have two terms three terms four terms 9Gg9qLmll2o-00094-00034786-00035067 here or here you're using multiplication 9Gg9qLmll2o-00095-00035068-00035421 distributes over addition keep that in 9Gg9qLmll2o-00096-00035422-00035676 mind and just multiply it out term by 9Gg9qLmll2o-00097-00035677-00036054 term multiplication and 2x times 3x 2 9Gg9qLmll2o-00098-00036055-00036365 times 3 is the 6 and x times X is DX 9Gg9qLmll2o-00099-00036366-00036594 squared and you keep going down the line 9Gg9qLmll2o-00100-00036595-00036888 so add like terms together and then 9Gg9qLmll2o-00101-00036889-00037332 write the final answer let's visualize 9Gg9qLmll2o-00102-00037333-00037884 that so we have 3x plus 5 and 2x plus 3 9Gg9qLmll2o-00103-00037885-00038181 just like when we were looking at 23 9Gg9qLmll2o-00104-00038182-00038502 times 35 look what we have here this 9Gg9qLmll2o-00105-00038503-00038880 here refers to 2x times 3x this is the 3 9Gg9qLmll2o-00106-00038881-00039306 times 3x this is 2x times 5 this is 3 9Gg9qLmll2o-00107-00039307-00039570 times 5 you can see how whether you have 9Gg9qLmll2o-00108-00039571-00039894 decimal numbers or polynomials the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00109-00039895-00040101 multiplication is working out 9Gg9qLmll2o-00110-00040102-00040383 way let's see if you can do the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00111-00040384-00040590 following questions on your own pause 9Gg9qLmll2o-00112-00040591-00040818 the video here and let's see what you 9Gg9qLmll2o-00113-00040819-00041161 can do so consider this picture below 9Gg9qLmll2o-00114-00041162-00041555 you are being asked to determine what 9Gg9qLmll2o-00115-00041556-00041808 possible multiplication problems can be 9Gg9qLmll2o-00116-00041809-00042036 represented by this picture remember 9Gg9qLmll2o-00117-00042037-00042215 unless you label it you're not going to 9Gg9qLmll2o-00118-00042216-00042461 be able to do it so use the previous 9Gg9qLmll2o-00119-00042462-00042989 examples and see what you can do first 9Gg9qLmll2o-00120-00042990-00043346 you mean you have come back let's say we 9Gg9qLmll2o-00121-00043347-00043608 wanted to represent these lenses 9Gg9qLmll2o-00122-00043609-00043812 following so from here to here is 10 9Gg9qLmll2o-00123-00043813-00044268 from here to here is 10 this is 1 so we 9Gg9qLmll2o-00124-00044269-00044668 have 2 up and down for the purple and 9Gg9qLmll2o-00125-00044669-00044907 horizontally that's 5 so each little 9Gg9qLmll2o-00126-00044908-00045279 square as a 1x1 each green one is 10 by 9Gg9qLmll2o-00127-00045280-00045768 10 each red rectangle is 1 by 10 so if 9Gg9qLmll2o-00128-00045769-00046070 you do that we will have 100 plus 100 9Gg9qLmll2o-00129-00046071-00046602 200 we have each one of these are 10 so 9Gg9qLmll2o-00130-00046603-00047070 50 plus 50 this will be 20 this will be 9Gg9qLmll2o-00131-00047071-00047393 10 so let's see what we can write here 9Gg9qLmll2o-00132-00047394-00047664 then so if the green squares are labeled 9Gg9qLmll2o-00133-00047665-00048033 as 10 by 10 square units and the smaller 9Gg9qLmll2o-00134-00048034-00048323 squares are 1 by 1 square units then the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00135-00048324-00048680 picture has the following area that 9Gg9qLmll2o-00136-00048681-00049224 picture will have 330 square units or 9Gg9qLmll2o-00137-00049225-00049485 can represent the multiplication 22 9Gg9qLmll2o-00138-00049486-00050293 times 15 because this is 22 and this is 9Gg9qLmll2o-00139-00050294-00050762 1015 all right let's see what happens if 9Gg9qLmll2o-00140-00050763-00050987 you label them differently instead of 10 9Gg9qLmll2o-00141-00050988-00051281 by 10 I'm saying that the green boxes 9Gg9qLmll2o-00142-00051282-00051605 are X by X because we don't know let's 9Gg9qLmll2o-00143-00051607-00051956 say this is still 2 by 5 so then we will 9Gg9qLmll2o-00144-00051957-00052394 have 2 X's 2 X squares because x squared 9Gg9qLmll2o-00145-00052395-00052961 x squared 5 X's and 5 X's so then our 9Gg9qLmll2o-00146-00052962-00053469 shaded area will represent 2x which is 1 9Gg9qLmll2o-00147-00053470-00054291 - 2 X plus 2 times X plus 5 so there can 9Gg9qLmll2o-00148-00054291-00054591 be many different answers possible here 9Gg9qLmll2o-00149-00054591-00054876 depending on what you choose these 9Gg9qLmll2o-00150-00054877-00055200 labels to be so if somebody chooses to 9Gg9qLmll2o-00151-00055201-00055604 represent this X by Y or a or this 9Gg9qLmll2o-00152-00055605-00055955 instead of 1 & 2 instead of 2 represents 9Gg9qLmll2o-00153-00055957-00056187 it as something different you will have 9Gg9qLmll2o-00154-00056188-00056429 different answers so there can be many 9Gg9qLmll2o-00155-00056430-00056664 different answers to this the ones I've 9Gg9qLmll2o-00156-00056665-00056901 shown you here are only a couple 9Gg9qLmll2o-00157-00056902-00057249 possible possibilities we did extension 9Gg9qLmll2o-00158-00057250-00057491 of addition with decimal numbers so now 9Gg9qLmll2o-00159-00057492-00057663 let's look at extension of decimal 9Gg9qLmll2o-00160-00057664-00057980 number multiplication so we already saw 9Gg9qLmll2o-00161-00057982-00058236 that if you wanted to multiply say 62 9Gg9qLmll2o-00162-00058237-00058974 times 74 you go 60 times 70 60 times 4 9Gg9qLmll2o-00163-00058975-00059480 which will give you 40 200 plus 240 you 9Gg9qLmll2o-00164-00059482-00059778 can also then continue on with two times 9Gg9qLmll2o-00165-00059779-00060171 70 and two times four so that will give 9Gg9qLmll2o-00166-00060172-00060453 you 140 plus eight and then you add all 9Gg9qLmll2o-00167-00060454-00060704 of those together so that's how you do 9Gg9qLmll2o-00168-00060705-00060954 decimal number multiplication and what 9Gg9qLmll2o-00169-00060954-00061278 we just actually did was distributive 9Gg9qLmll2o-00170-00061279-00061577 property of multiplication over addition 9Gg9qLmll2o-00171-00061578-00061860 let's see how that applies to polynomial 9Gg9qLmll2o-00172-00061861-00062102 multiplication so let's take a look at 9Gg9qLmll2o-00173-00062103-00062547 6x plus 2 times 7x plus 4 so again 9Gg9qLmll2o-00174-00062548-00063021 instead of 60 we have 6x so 6x times 7x 9Gg9qLmll2o-00175-00063022-00063522 + 6 x times 4 so that will give you 42 x 9Gg9qLmll2o-00176-00063523-00063873 squared because 6 times 7 42 x times X 9Gg9qLmll2o-00177-00063874-00064254 will give you x squared 6x times 4 will 9Gg9qLmll2o-00178-00064254-00064655 give you 24 X let's do the same with 2 2 9Gg9qLmll2o-00179-00064657-00065088 times 7x + 2 times 4 so 2 times 7x will 9Gg9qLmll2o-00180-00065089-00065319 give you 14 x + 2 times 4 will give you 9Gg9qLmll2o-00181-00065320-00065601 8 and now you have to add like terms to 9Gg9qLmll2o-00182-00065602-00065901 simplify your answer so you will have 42 9Gg9qLmll2o-00183-00065902-00066414 x squared + 38 x + 8 and you can see how 9Gg9qLmll2o-00184-00066415-00066678 we got that answer using distributive 9Gg9qLmll2o-00185-00066679-00066863 property of multiplication 9Gg9qLmll2o-00186-00066864-00067070 audition look at the parallels between 9Gg9qLmll2o-00187-00067071-00067367 this problem and this problem except 9Gg9qLmll2o-00188-00067368-00067565 here all these terms could be added 9Gg9qLmll2o-00189-00067566-00067775 together but X square and X cannot be 9Gg9qLmll2o-00190-00067776-00068054 added together so polynomial stays as is 9Gg9qLmll2o-00191-00068055-00068377 just like in addition we had to do that 9Gg9qLmll2o-00192-00068378-00068645 all right let's continue and see if now 9Gg9qLmll2o-00193-00068646-00068918 you can do some practice problems so go 9Gg9qLmll2o-00194-00068919-00069143 ahead and get ready not just to the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00195-00069144-00069362 problem we'll also look at similarities 9Gg9qLmll2o-00196-00069363-00069611 and dissimilarities between the problems 9Gg9qLmll2o-00197-00069612-00069875 that were giving you here so let's take 9Gg9qLmll2o-00198-00069876-00070199 a look at these four problems pause the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00199-00070200-00070526 video here finished doing the answers 9Gg9qLmll2o-00200-00070527-00070760 and then come back and play the rest of 9Gg9qLmll2o-00201-00070761-00071018 the video so you can see whether you are 9Gg9qLmll2o-00202-00071019-00071581 actually learning the material or not 9Gg9qLmll2o-00203-00071582-00072343 all right let's see we have two times 74 9Gg9qLmll2o-00204-00072344-00072617 142 times 70 is hundred and forty two 9Gg9qLmll2o-00205-00072618-00072947 times four is eight so that'd be 148 two 9Gg9qLmll2o-00206-00072948-00073307 times 7x will give you 14 X and 2 times 9Gg9qLmll2o-00207-00073308-00073592 4 is 8 and here you cannot add like 9Gg9qLmll2o-00208-00073593-00073892 terms so that would be it because there 9Gg9qLmll2o-00209-00073893-00074285 are no like terms right two times 300 9Gg9qLmll2o-00210-00074286-00074534 two times 42 times eight that's what 9Gg9qLmll2o-00211-00074535-00074828 you're gonna have to do so two times 300 9Gg9qLmll2o-00212-00074829-00075326 is 600 two times forty 82 times 8 16 and 9Gg9qLmll2o-00213-00075327-00075602 then add them up together here same 9Gg9qLmll2o-00214-00075603-00075779 thing two times three x squared will 9Gg9qLmll2o-00215-00075780-00076070 give you six x squared times four X will 9Gg9qLmll2o-00216-00076071-00076265 give you eight x and x 8 will give you 9Gg9qLmll2o-00217-00076266-00076619 16 and again you cannot add any terms 9Gg9qLmll2o-00218-00076620-00076817 here because you do not have any like 9Gg9qLmll2o-00219-00076818-00077213 terms look at the parallel four here we 9Gg9qLmll2o-00220-00077214-00077444 have hundred and forty eight for us here 9Gg9qLmll2o-00221-00077445-00077861 we had 14x plus eight here we had 696 9Gg9qLmll2o-00222-00077862-00078176 here we have six x squared plus 8x plus 9Gg9qLmll2o-00223-00078177-00078569 16 pause the video see what you can do 9Gg9qLmll2o-00224-00078570-00078896 on your own and then at the end of these 9Gg9qLmll2o-00225-00078897-00079139 problems right down the conclusions from 9Gg9qLmll2o-00226-00079140-00079382 A through F what you saw as similarities 9Gg9qLmll2o-00227-00079383-00079658 and dissimilarities so go ahead pause 9Gg9qLmll2o-00228-00079659-00080192 the video let's see what you can do 9Gg9qLmll2o-00229-00080193-00080433 alright assuming you have come back to 9Gg9qLmll2o-00230-00080434-00080943 check we have here 34 times 57 so going 9Gg9qLmll2o-00231-00080944-00081339 to have 30 times 50 and 30 times 7/4 9Gg9qLmll2o-00232-00081340-00081723 times 50 and 4 times 7 all right so 9Gg9qLmll2o-00233-00081724-00082064 that's going to give you 30 times 50 is 9Gg9qLmll2o-00234-00082065-00082542 1530 times 7 is 210 4 times 50 would be 9Gg9qLmll2o-00235-00082543-00083067 200 4 times 7 is 28 and then add like 9Gg9qLmll2o-00236-00083068-00083529 terms and let's see what we got you will 9Gg9qLmll2o-00237-00083530-00083717 follow the exact same process 9Gg9qLmll2o-00238-00083718-00084048 distribution property of multiplication 9Gg9qLmll2o-00239-00084049-00084375 over addition so you are distributing 9Gg9qLmll2o-00240-00084376-00084666 sometimes when people multiply binomials 9Gg9qLmll2o-00241-00084667-00085100 in America you like calling it foil and 9Gg9qLmll2o-00242-00085101-00085431 I actually do not prefer calling it foil 9Gg9qLmll2o-00243-00085432-00085707 because that kind of restricts your 9Gg9qLmll2o-00244-00085708-00085986 ability to think always to think about 9Gg9qLmll2o-00245-00085987-00086127 how if you are multiplying two 9Gg9qLmll2o-00246-00086128-00086478 quantities you can use distributive 9Gg9qLmll2o-00247-00086479-00086714 property of multiplication over addition 9Gg9qLmll2o-00248-00086715-00087042 and why is that because you have an 9Gg9qLmll2o-00249-00087043-00087363 addition right here 3x plus 4 and then 9Gg9qLmll2o-00250-00087364-00088119 times 5x plus 7 so 3x times 5x 3x times 9Gg9qLmll2o-00251-00088120-00088752 7 4 times 5 X + 4 times 7 and then the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00252-00088753-00088935 stew that distributive property of 9Gg9qLmll2o-00253-00088936-00089187 multiplication or addition will work no 9Gg9qLmll2o-00254-00089188-00089394 matter how many terms you got in the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00255-00089395-00089676 first quantity and no matter how many 9Gg9qLmll2o-00256-00089677-00089901 terms you have in that second 9Gg9qLmll2o-00257-00089902-00090219 parenthesis all right and then I like 9Gg9qLmll2o-00258-00090220-00090507 terms of course 21 x + 20 X will give 9Gg9qLmll2o-00259-00090508-00090933 you 41 X so again here we had 1500 here 9Gg9qLmll2o-00260-00090934-00091494 15 x squared 410 41 X 28 28 9Gg9qLmll2o-00261-00091495-00091830 so similarity is that polynomial and 9Gg9qLmll2o-00262-00091831-00092058 decimal number multiplication both use 9Gg9qLmll2o-00263-00092059-00092208 distributive property of multiplication 9Gg9qLmll2o-00264-00092209-00092370 over addition 9Gg9qLmll2o-00265-00092371-00092646 and the only dissimilarity is that here 9Gg9qLmll2o-00266-00092647-00093032 in decimal numbers we have carry overs 9Gg9qLmll2o-00267-00093033-00093275 and place values you have to worry about 9Gg9qLmll2o-00268-00093276-00093571 whereas here you just have to make 9Gg9qLmll2o-00269-00093572-00093976 you multiply the quantities of variables 9Gg9qLmll2o-00270-00093977-00094306 with exponents properly alright so now 9Gg9qLmll2o-00271-00094307-00094615 let's move on and let's see if you can 9Gg9qLmll2o-00272-00094616-00095026 do this problem so go ahead read the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00273-00095027-00095623 questions see what you can do pause the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00274-00095624-00095800 video and try the problem on your own 9Gg9qLmll2o-00275-00095801-00096342 and then we'll discuss it together 9Gg9qLmll2o-00276-00096343-00096649 assuming you have come back let's see 9Gg9qLmll2o-00277-00096650-00096885 what answers you got so first of all 9Gg9qLmll2o-00278-00096886-00097120 let's read the question question says 9Gg9qLmll2o-00279-00097121-00097398 perform the following operations and 9Gg9qLmll2o-00280-00097399-00097807 simplify your answer you have polynomial 9Gg9qLmll2o-00281-00097808-00098323 2t cubed plus 5t plus 7 plus 6t to the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00282-00098324-00098611 fifth plus 3t to the third plus seventy 9Gg9qLmll2o-00283-00098612-00098878 plus four let's see what answer you got 9Gg9qLmll2o-00284-00098879-00099322 is there anyone here who was watching or 9Gg9qLmll2o-00285-00099323-00099520 who was in class who got the following 9Gg9qLmll2o-00286-00099521-00100009 answer if you're wondering wait I got 9Gg9qLmll2o-00287-00100010-00100293 that answer I would highly recommend 9Gg9qLmll2o-00288-00100294-00100630 please figure out why you may have 9Gg9qLmll2o-00289-00100631-00100945 gotten this answer this answer comes 9Gg9qLmll2o-00290-00100946-00101140 only if you took the first polynomial 9Gg9qLmll2o-00291-00101141-00101398 and you multiplied with the second 9Gg9qLmll2o-00292-00101399-00101626 polynomial so it would be incorrect 9Gg9qLmll2o-00293-00101627-00101911 because you are asked to do addition 9Gg9qLmll2o-00294-00101912-00102273 here you have first polynomial plus 9Gg9qLmll2o-00295-00102274-00102646 second polynomial the reason you may 9Gg9qLmll2o-00296-00102647-00102906 have multiplied is because all the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00297-00102907-00103080 previous problems were asking you to 9Gg9qLmll2o-00298-00103081-00103317 multiply and suddenly were throwing a 9Gg9qLmll2o-00299-00103318-00103552 different kind of problem at you and we 9Gg9qLmll2o-00300-00103553-00103758 are expecting that you are reading the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00301-00103759-00103939 problem correctly because this is what 9Gg9qLmll2o-00302-00103940-00104176 can happen on an exam right you have 9Gg9qLmll2o-00303-00104177-00104473 multiple different problem-solving 9Gg9qLmll2o-00304-00104474-00104752 skills needed all at once so it's very 9Gg9qLmll2o-00305-00104753-00105088 important that if you made a mistake 9Gg9qLmll2o-00306-00105089-00105408 like that first of all if you realize 9Gg9qLmll2o-00307-00105409-00105604 you make a mistake there are many who 9Gg9qLmll2o-00308-00105605-00106083 immediately go to saying negative things 9Gg9qLmll2o-00309-00106084-00106450 to themselves like I'm stupid I'm no 9Gg9qLmll2o-00310-00106451-00106718 good I am not good at math 9Gg9qLmll2o-00311-00106719-00107057 I can do this however that's an 9Gg9qLmll2o-00312-00107058-00107342 exaggeration of what just happened you 9Gg9qLmll2o-00313-00107343-00107567 probably just misread the problem and 9Gg9qLmll2o-00314-00107568-00107831 know that human beings are really good 9Gg9qLmll2o-00315-00107832-00108122 with using habit energy you are doing 9Gg9qLmll2o-00316-00108123-00108221 multiplication multiplication 9Gg9qLmll2o-00317-00108222-00108623 multiplication and suddenly you are in 9Gg9qLmll2o-00318-00108624-00108859 the multiplication mode and so that's 9Gg9qLmll2o-00319-00108860-00109058 why you probably just multiplied it is 9Gg9qLmll2o-00320-00109058-00109403 okay to make mistakes get done in your 9Gg9qLmll2o-00321-00109404-00109829 head it is okay to make mistakes making 9Gg9qLmll2o-00322-00109830-00110126 mistakes is what allows you to learn so 9Gg9qLmll2o-00323-00110127-00110543 please try to develop kindness 9Gg9qLmll2o-00324-00110544-00110935 compassion and non judgment towards 9Gg9qLmll2o-00325-00110936-00111353 yourself if you can cultivate kindness 9Gg9qLmll2o-00326-00111354-00111542 compassion and non judgment towards 9Gg9qLmll2o-00327-00111543-00111908 yourself it will take you a long ways to 9Gg9qLmll2o-00328-00111908-00112370 success so it's immediately we run to 9Gg9qLmll2o-00329-00112371-00112633 blaming somebody or calling ourselves 9Gg9qLmll2o-00330-00112634-00113039 bad names because in the moment you feel 9Gg9qLmll2o-00331-00113040-00113318 good about saying these negative things 9Gg9qLmll2o-00332-00113319-00113501 when you make mistakes however know that 9Gg9qLmll2o-00333-00113502-00113696 the more negative things you say to your 9Gg9qLmll2o-00334-00113697-00113864 brain your brain actually literally 9Gg9qLmll2o-00335-00113865-00114160 shrinks so it's important to say 9Gg9qLmll2o-00336-00114161-00114407 positive turn mistakes into something 9Gg9qLmll2o-00337-00114408-00114586 positive and positive learning 9Gg9qLmll2o-00338-00114588-00114824 experience would be to figure out why 9Gg9qLmll2o-00339-00114825-00115079 you made that mistake and then move from 9Gg9qLmll2o-00340-00115080-00115309 there we already saw that it was because 9Gg9qLmll2o-00341-00115310-00115517 we read that as multiplication problem 9Gg9qLmll2o-00342-00115518-00115907 so in order to do this problem correctly 9Gg9qLmll2o-00343-00115908-00116168 I would highly recommend to be in a 9Gg9qLmll2o-00344-00116169-00116456 habit well if you're alone you can of 9Gg9qLmll2o-00345-00116457-00116780 course read out loud like I am doing to 9Gg9qLmll2o-00346-00116781-00117293 t cubed + 5 t + 7 + 6 T to the fifth 9Gg9qLmll2o-00347-00117294-00117616 plus 3t cubed plus seventy plus four 9Gg9qLmll2o-00348-00117617-00117922 because then your brain can actually 9Gg9qLmll2o-00349-00117923-00118382 process what operation you just woke so 9Gg9qLmll2o-00350-00118383-00118748 being in the moment not be distracted it 9Gg9qLmll2o-00351-00118749-00119042 will allow you to process what the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00352-00119043-00119284 question is asking because once you know 9Gg9qLmll2o-00353-00119285-00119447 what the question is asking your brain 9Gg9qLmll2o-00354-00119448-00119686 automatically knows what to do so go 9Gg9qLmll2o-00355-00119688-00119948 ahead pause the video now especially if 9Gg9qLmll2o-00356-00119949-00120061 you had the wrong and 9Gg9qLmll2o-00357-00120063-00120458 sir and then see if you can do it with 9Gg9qLmll2o-00358-00120458-00120599 knowing that it is an addition problem 9Gg9qLmll2o-00359-00120600-00121070 so go ahead pause the video so let's see 9Gg9qLmll2o-00360-00121071-00121526 what answer you got so we will have 62 v 9Gg9qLmll2o-00361-00121527-00121853 from this second polynomial which is t 9Gg9qLmll2o-00362-00121854-00121994 to the fifth is the highest power that 9Gg9qLmll2o-00363-00121995-00122267 appears in both polynomial so there is 9Gg9qLmll2o-00364-00122268-00122578 no other t to the fifth all remains 62 v 9Gg9qLmll2o-00365-00122579-00123077 2 t to the third + 3 T to the third T to 9Gg9qLmll2o-00366-00123078-00123350 the third is the like unit so 2 & 3 will 9Gg9qLmll2o-00367-00123351-00123893 give you 5 of those 5 t + 7 T will give 9Gg9qLmll2o-00368-00123894-00124418 you 12 T's and 7 plus 4 will give you 11 9Gg9qLmll2o-00369-00124419-00124640 so the final answer is right there 9Gg9qLmll2o-00370-00124641-00124976 please make sure term by term addition 9Gg9qLmll2o-00371-00124977-00125317 that you still remember how to do that 9Gg9qLmll2o-00372-00125318-00125543 alright let's move on to the second 9Gg9qLmll2o-00373-00125544-00125935 problem so let's see if you can do this 9Gg9qLmll2o-00374-00125936-00126230 problem pause the video and let's see 9Gg9qLmll2o-00375-00126231-00126521 what we can do some of you might react 9Gg9qLmll2o-00376-00126522-00126830 to this problem and say oh this is way 9Gg9qLmll2o-00377-00126831-00127007 too complicated I don't think I can do 9Gg9qLmll2o-00378-00127008-00127049 that 9Gg9qLmll2o-00379-00127050-00127376 so don't go into that space if you truly 9Gg9qLmll2o-00380-00127377-00127622 feel you cannot do this just remember 9Gg9qLmll2o-00381-00127623-00127931 what we've been working on one thing at 9Gg9qLmll2o-00382-00127932-00128318 a time stay focused stay positive and 9Gg9qLmll2o-00383-00128319-00128645 just focus on one thing at a time 9Gg9qLmll2o-00384-00128646-00128999 be mindful close your eyes sit back in 9Gg9qLmll2o-00385-00129000-00129263 your chair take three deep breaths the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00386-00129264-00129583 three deep breath practice is extremely 9Gg9qLmll2o-00387-00129584-00129770 important to reduce stress in any 9Gg9qLmll2o-00388-00129771-00130001 situation not just while doing math 9Gg9qLmll2o-00389-00130002-00130280 problems mindfulness means bring your 9Gg9qLmll2o-00390-00130281-00130544 full attention be present in this moment 9Gg9qLmll2o-00391-00130545-00131000 don't be distracted by phones or music 9Gg9qLmll2o-00392-00131001-00131360 or people talking be focused just on 9Gg9qLmll2o-00393-00131361-00131870 this problem stay on task so what is one 9Gg9qLmll2o-00394-00131871-00132023 thing at a time I mean we've done this 9Gg9qLmll2o-00395-00132024-00132365 in our previous complicated problems so 9Gg9qLmll2o-00396-00132366-00132653 you that means you're going to cover up 9Gg9qLmll2o-00397-00132654-00132959 things that make it hard so let's cover 9Gg9qLmll2o-00398-00132960-00133322 up the last two terms of this first 9Gg9qLmll2o-00399-00133323-00133403 polynomial 9Gg9qLmll2o-00400-00133404-00133577 and now the problem is a little bit 9Gg9qLmll2o-00401-00133578-00133748 simpler remember this is what the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00402-00133749-00134012 mathematician does see a complicated 9Gg9qLmll2o-00403-00134013-00134225 problem you break it into smaller 9Gg9qLmll2o-00404-00134226-00134444 components that you are able to do and 9Gg9qLmll2o-00405-00134445-00134762 then you move from there so pause the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00406-00134763-00135002 video and let's just see if you can do 9Gg9qLmll2o-00407-00135003-00135323 this first part here which would be to T 9Gg9qLmll2o-00408-00135324-00135722 to the third times six T to the fifth 9Gg9qLmll2o-00409-00135723-00135989 plus three T cubed plus seventy plus 9Gg9qLmll2o-00410-00135990-00136345 four go ahead 9Gg9qLmll2o-00411-00136346-00136604 so if you finished this is what it would 9Gg9qLmll2o-00412-00136605-00137060 look like so two T to the third and six 9Gg9qLmll2o-00413-00137061-00137273 T to the fifth will give you 12 T to the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00414-00137274-00137603 eighth because two times six is twelve T 9Gg9qLmll2o-00415-00137604-00137819 to the third and T to the fifth is T to 9Gg9qLmll2o-00416-00137820-00138215 the eighth two times three six T to the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00417-00138216-00138422 third and T to the third will give you t 9Gg9qLmll2o-00418-00138423-00138824 to the six two times seven 14 T to the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00419-00138825-00139019 third times T will give you t to the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00420-00139020-00139079 fourth 9Gg9qLmll2o-00421-00139080-00139310 two times four is eight and T to the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00422-00139311-00139625 third will be T to the third so once we 9Gg9qLmll2o-00423-00139626-00139889 do that part we can uncover the next 9Gg9qLmll2o-00424-00139890-00140213 component right so that would be plus 5t 9Gg9qLmll2o-00425-00140214-00140414 so go ahead pause the video see what you 9Gg9qLmll2o-00426-00140415-00140620 can do 9Gg9qLmll2o-00427-00140621-00140939 color coding it also allows you to keep 9Gg9qLmll2o-00428-00140940-00141164 track of what you just got done so use 9Gg9qLmll2o-00429-00141165-00141445 color pencils 9Gg9qLmll2o-00430-00141446-00141818 alright so five times six 30 30 T to the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00431-00141819-00142007 six because T and T to the fifth will 9Gg9qLmll2o-00432-00142008-00142367 give you t to the six five T times three 9Gg9qLmll2o-00433-00142368-00142586 T's with a third will give you 15 T to 9Gg9qLmll2o-00434-00142587-00142898 the fourth five times seven 35 T times 9Gg9qLmll2o-00435-00142899-00143339 DT square so 35 T squared 5 times 4 20 9Gg9qLmll2o-00436-00143340-00143687 20 T let's add more terms so that's the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00437-00143688-00143978 plus 7 so now multiply the 7 and the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00438-00143979-00144245 rest of the terms what property are we 9Gg9qLmll2o-00439-00144246-00144443 using refresh that in your head we are 9Gg9qLmll2o-00440-00144444-00144806 using what we are distributing this 9Gg9qLmll2o-00441-00144807-00145241 seven across addition so we are still 9Gg9qLmll2o-00442-00145242-00145457 using distributive property of 9Gg9qLmll2o-00443-00145458-00145799 multiplication over addition it does not 9Gg9qLmll2o-00444-00145800-00145988 matter how many terms are there in the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00445-00145989-00146192 first polynomial you can have two terms 9Gg9qLmll2o-00446-00146193-00146393 three terms four terms does not matter 9Gg9qLmll2o-00447-00146394-00146603 you just go one term 9Gg9qLmll2o-00448-00146604-00147101 at a time and multiply it out so see if 9Gg9qLmll2o-00449-00147102-00147383 you got the answer by multiplying by 7 7 9Gg9qLmll2o-00450-00147384-00147815 times 6 42 T to the fifth 3 times 7 21 T 9Gg9qLmll2o-00451-00147816-00147899 to the third 9Gg9qLmll2o-00452-00147900-00148640 7 times 7 49 T 7 times 4 is 28 so now we 9Gg9qLmll2o-00453-00148641-00148820 have finished multiplying but remember 9Gg9qLmll2o-00454-00148821-00149050 it said simplify our answer so 9Gg9qLmll2o-00455-00149051-00149300 simplifying the answer means add like 9Gg9qLmll2o-00456-00149301-00149507 terms so go ahead pause the video go 9Gg9qLmll2o-00457-00149508-00149780 ahead like add like terms let's see what 9Gg9qLmll2o-00458-00149781-00150077 you got assuming you have come back 9Gg9qLmll2o-00459-00150078-00150419 let's start with the highest exponent so 9Gg9qLmll2o-00460-00150420-00150701 T to the 8th for the first so 12 T to 9Gg9qLmll2o-00461-00150702-00150962 the 8th will be 12 T to the 8th T to the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00462-00150963-00151394 6 we have 6 T to the 6 and 30 T to the 6 9Gg9qLmll2o-00463-00151395-00151826 will give you 36 t to the 6 42 T to the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00464-00151827-00152093 fifth because there's only 1 T to the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00465-00152094-00152459 fifth term 14 T to the fourth and 15 T 9Gg9qLmll2o-00466-00152460-00152681 to the fourth will give you 29 T to the 9Gg9qLmll2o-00467-00152682-00153113 fourth and let's see T cube we have 8 T 9Gg9qLmll2o-00468-00153114-00153443 cubed and 21 T cube will give you 29 T 9Gg9qLmll2o-00469-00153444-00153971 to the third and see we have T square 35 9Gg9qLmll2o-00470-00153972-00154178 T squared there's only one T squared 9Gg9qLmll2o-00471-00154179-00154559 term so we'll stay T is we have 20 T and 9Gg9qLmll2o-00472-00154560-00154889 49 t or giving you 60 19 and then we 9Gg9qLmll2o-00473-00154890-00155261 have a plus 28 right so that would be 9Gg9qLmll2o-00474-00155262-00155612 our final answer then so a few important 9Gg9qLmll2o-00475-00155613-00155852 things to take with you is weed problems 9Gg9qLmll2o-00476-00155853-00156080 carefully out loud if necessary to 9Gg9qLmll2o-00477-00156081-00156386 process directions cultivate patience 9Gg9qLmll2o-00478-00156387-00156764 stick with it and most of all don't give 9Gg9qLmll2o-00479-00156765-00156977 up 9GhmXtH2pUE-00000-00000006-00000041 thank you 9GhmXtH2pUE-00001-00000042-00000149 [Music] 9GhmXtH2pUE-00002-00000150-00000401 hello I'm 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exclusive 9H_kB16uV6Q-00004-00001988-00002221 coverage here in Las Vegas for AWS 9H_kB16uV6Q-00005-00002222-00002502 Amazon Web Services reinvent 2017 9H_kB16uV6Q-00006-00002503-00002788 45,000 people it's the cubes fifth year 9H_kB16uV6Q-00007-00002789-00003061 in covering AWS five years ago I think 9H_kB16uV6Q-00008-00003062-00003277 seven thousand people attended this year 9H_kB16uV6Q-00009-00003278-00003529 close to forty five thousand developers 9H_kB16uV6Q-00010-00003529-00003802 and industry participants and of course 9H_kB16uV6Q-00011-00003803-00004009 this is the cube I'm John four is my 9H_kB16uV6Q-00012-00004010-00004186 coast Keith Townsend and we're excited 9H_kB16uV6Q-00013-00004187-00004411 to have Cuba alumni Sanjay poon in who's 9H_kB16uV6Q-00014-00004412-00004641 the chief operating officer for VMware 9H_kB16uV6Q-00015-00004642-00004897 Sanjay great to see you of course a good 9H_kB16uV6Q-00016-00004898-00005061 friend with Andy chassis you went to 9H_kB16uV6Q-00017-00005062-00005263 Harvard Business School together both 9H_kB16uV6Q-00018-00005264-00005397 Mavericks 9H_kB16uV6Q-00019-00005398-00005670 welcome to the cube thank you and you 9H_kB16uV6Q-00020-00005671-00005791 know what I loved about the keynote this 9H_kB16uV6Q-00021-00005792-00006030 morning Andy and I both loved music and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00022-00006031-00006261 he had all these musical stuff Mandy and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00023-00006262-00006517 Tom Petty at Eric Clapton I don't sure I 9H_kB16uV6Q-00024-00006518-00006742 like all of his picks but at least those 9H_kB16uV6Q-00025-00006743-00006984 two yeah well the music thing really 9H_kB16uV6Q-00026-00006986-00007219 speaks to the artists artists inside of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00027-00007220-00007470 this industry yes and we were talking on 9H_kB16uV6Q-00028-00007471-00007663 the cube earlier that we're in a time 9H_kB16uV6Q-00029-00007664-00007863 now where and I think Tom Siebel said it 9H_kB16uV6Q-00030-00007864-00008113 when he was on that there's going to be 9H_kB16uV6Q-00031-00008114-00008692 a mass just extinction of companies that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00032-00008693-00008902 don't make it on the digital 9H_kB16uV6Q-00033-00008903-00009112 transformation and he cited some so 9H_kB16uV6Q-00034-00009113-00009264 you're at VMware you guys are 9H_kB16uV6Q-00035-00009265-00009412 transforming and continue to do well 9H_kB16uV6Q-00036-00009413-00009592 you've a relationship with Amazon Web 9H_kB16uV6Q-00037-00009593-00009895 Services talk about the challenge that's 9H_kB16uV6Q-00038-00009896-00010053 in front of business executives right 9H_kB16uV6Q-00039-00010054-00010245 now around this transformation because 9H_kB16uV6Q-00040-00010246-00010485 possibly looking at extinction for some 9H_kB16uV6Q-00041-00010486-00010749 big brands potentially big companies in 9H_kB16uV6Q-00042-00010750-00011059 IT it's interesting that Tom Siebel 9H_kB16uV6Q-00043-00011060-00011266 would say that in terms of where C will 9H_kB16uV6Q-00044-00011267-00011421 ended up and where salespersons now I 9H_kB16uV6Q-00045-00011422-00011628 respect him he's obviously doing good 9H_kB16uV6Q-00046-00011629-00011856 things at c3 but listen that's I think 9H_kB16uV6Q-00047-00011857-00012045 what every company has got to ask 9H_kB16uV6Q-00048-00012046-00012226 yourself how do you build on jeopardy 9H_kB16uV6Q-00049-00012227-00012417 how do you make yourself sustainable 9H_kB16uV6Q-00050-00012418-00012538 next year will be our 20 year 9H_kB16uV6Q-00051-00012539-00012894 anniversary of VM Rose founding and the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00052-00012896-00013035 story could have been written about 9H_kB16uV6Q-00053-00013036-00013305 VMware that you were the last good 9H_kB16uV6Q-00054-00013306-00013405 company and then 9H_kB16uV6Q-00055-00013406-00013563 you were a legacy company because you 9H_kB16uV6Q-00056-00013565-00013858 were relevant to yesterday's part of the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00057-00013859-00014044 world which was the data center and I 9H_kB16uV6Q-00058-00014044-00014194 think the key thing that kept us to wait 9H_kB16uV6Q-00059-00014194-00014353 the last two or three years was how do 9H_kB16uV6Q-00060-00014354-00014563 you make them relevant to the other side 9H_kB16uV6Q-00061-00014563-00014722 of history which is the public cloud and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00062-00014722-00014965 what we've really been able to do over 9H_kB16uV6Q-00063-00014966-00015172 the last two or three years is build a 9H_kB16uV6Q-00064-00015172-00015310 story of the company that's not just 9H_kB16uV6Q-00065-00015311-00015463 relevant to the data center and private 9H_kB16uV6Q-00066-00015463-00015652 cloud which is not going away guys as 9H_kB16uV6Q-00067-00015653-00015835 you know but build a bridge into the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00068-00015836-00015969 public cloud and this partnership is 9H_kB16uV6Q-00069-00015970-00016113 been a key part of that and then of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00070-00016115-00016266 course the third part of that is our end 9H_kB16uV6Q-00071-00016268-00016480 user computing story so I think cloud 9H_kB16uV6Q-00072-00016481-00016735 mobile security have become the pillars 9H_kB16uV6Q-00073-00016736-00017011 of the new VMware and we're very excited 9H_kB16uV6Q-00074-00017012-00017194 about that in this show I mean if you 9H_kB16uV6Q-00075-00017195-00017377 combine the momentum of this show and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00076-00017378-00017475 vmworld 9H_kB16uV6Q-00077-00017476-00017677 collectively at vmworld we have probably 9H_kB16uV6Q-00078-00017678-00017853 about 70 80 thousand people who come to 9H_kB16uV6Q-00079-00017854-00018085 VMworld Envy forums there's 45,000 9H_kB16uV6Q-00080-00018086-00018202 people here with all the other summits 9H_kB16uV6Q-00081-00018203-00018340 there's probably have another 40,000 9H_kB16uV6Q-00082-00018341-00018562 people this is collectively about a 9H_kB16uV6Q-00083-00018563-00018721 hundred hundred fifty thousand people 9H_kB16uV6Q-00084-00018722-00018916 are coming to the largest infrastructure 9H_kB16uV6Q-00085-00018917-00019108 shows on the planet great momentum and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00086-00019109-00019230 as an infrastructure show is turning 9H_kB16uV6Q-00087-00019231-00019350 into a developer show though I don't get 9H_kB16uV6Q-00088-00019351-00019510 your thoughts and I want to just clarify 9H_kB16uV6Q-00089-00019511-00019644 something cuz we pointed this out at 9H_kB16uV6Q-00090-00019645-00019800 VMworld this year because it's pretty 9H_kB16uV6Q-00091-00019801-00020019 obvious what happened the announcement 9H_kB16uV6Q-00092-00020020-00020259 that you guys did that ragu and Eugene 9H_kB16uV6Q-00093-00020260-00020524 your team did with ragu with the AWS was 9H_kB16uV6Q-00094-00020525-00020755 instrumental the proof was at VMworld 9H_kB16uV6Q-00095-00020756-00020962 when you saw clarity in the messaging 9H_kB16uV6Q-00096-00020963-00021178 everyone can see what's going on I now 9H_kB16uV6Q-00097-00021179-00021369 with know what's happening my operations 9H_kB16uV6Q-00098-00021370-00021490 are gonna be secure 9H_kB16uV6Q-00099-00021491-00021675 I can run vSphere in the cloud or on 9H_kB16uV6Q-00100-00021676-00021883 Prem everything could be called what it 9H_kB16uV6Q-00101-00021884-00022084 is but the reality was is that you guys 9H_kB16uV6Q-00102-00022085-00022434 have the operators IT operations and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00103-00022435-00022768 Amazon has a robust cloud native 9H_kB16uV6Q-00104-00022769-00022894 developer community not that they're 9H_kB16uV6Q-00105-00022895-00023077 conflicting in any way they're coming 9H_kB16uV6Q-00106-00023078-00023290 together so it's a smart move so I got 9H_kB16uV6Q-00107-00023291-00023446 to ask you as you guys continue your 9H_kB16uV6Q-00108-00023447-00023752 relationship with AWS how are you guys 9H_kB16uV6Q-00109-00023753-00024115 tying the new ops role up its teams with 9H_kB16uV6Q-00110-00024116-00024403 the dev teams because with IOT this is 9H_kB16uV6Q-00111-00024404-00024528 where it's coming together you can see 9H_kB16uV6Q-00112-00024529-00024583 it right there 9H_kB16uV6Q-00113-00024584-00024744 absolutely thoughts I mean listen the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00114-00024745-00024967 partnership is going great I just saw 9H_kB16uV6Q-00115-00024968-00025200 Andy Jesse after his exec summit session 9H_kB16uV6Q-00116-00025201-00025402 gave him a hug we're very excited about 9H_kB16uV6Q-00117-00025403-00025644 it and I think of any of the technology 9H_kB16uV6Q-00118-00025645-00025861 vendors he mentioned on stage we were on 9H_kB16uV6Q-00119-00025862-00026025 several slides there mentioned a few 9H_kB16uV6Q-00120-00026026-00026227 times we I think we're probably one of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00121-00026227-00026569 the top tech partners of his and reality 9H_kB16uV6Q-00122-00026570-00026633 is 9H_kB16uV6Q-00123-00026633-00026833 there's two aspects to the story one is 9H_kB16uV6Q-00124-00026835-00026977 the developer and operations come 9H_kB16uV6Q-00125-00026979-00027119 together to you eloquently articulated 9H_kB16uV6Q-00126-00027120-00027427 the other aspect is we're the king of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00127-00027429-00027545 the private cloud and they're the king 9H_kB16uV6Q-00128-00027545-00027674 of the public cloud when you can bring 9H_kB16uV6Q-00129-00027675-00027905 these together you don't have to make it 9H_kB16uV6Q-00130-00027906-00028097 a choice between one or the other we 9H_kB16uV6Q-00131-00028098-00028235 want to make sure that the private cloud 9H_kB16uV6Q-00132-00028236-00028472 is maximized to its full extent and then 9H_kB16uV6Q-00133-00028473-00028615 you build a bridge in the public cloud I 9H_kB16uV6Q-00134-00028616-00028811 think those two factors bringing 9H_kB16uV6Q-00135-00028812-00028970 developer and operations together and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00136-00028970-00029189 marrying the private and public are what 9H_kB16uV6Q-00137-00029189-00029383 we call hybrid cloud computing a term we 9H_kB16uV6Q-00138-00029385-00029652 coined and now of course many others are 9H_kB16uV6Q-00139-00029654-00029933 well whoever did I think HP might have 9H_kB16uV6Q-00140-00029933-00030101 coined it but nonetheless we feel very 9H_kB16uV6Q-00141-00030102-00030352 good about the future about developer 9H_kB16uV6Q-00142-00030354-00030494 and operations and hybrid cloud 9H_kB16uV6Q-00143-00030495-00030668 computing being a good part of the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00144-00030669-00030905 world's future so sanjay actually 9H_kB16uV6Q-00145-00030906-00031252 interviewed you 2016 vm world and you 9H_kB16uV6Q-00146-00031254-00031439 said something very interesting that now 9H_kB16uV6Q-00147-00031439-00031625 I look back on it I'm like oh of course 9H_kB16uV6Q-00148-00031626-00031868 which is that you gave your developers 9H_kB16uV6Q-00149-00031869-00032120 the tools they needed to do their jobs 9H_kB16uV6Q-00150-00032120-00032432 which at the time included AWS before 9H_kB16uV6Q-00151-00032433-00032651 the announcement of VMware in AWS 9H_kB16uV6Q-00152-00032652-00032909 partnership AWS doesn't change their 9H_kB16uV6Q-00153-00032910-00033248 data center for anyone so the value that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00154-00033249-00033440 obviously you guys are bringing to them 9H_kB16uV6Q-00155-00033441-00033752 and their customers speaks volumes AWS 9H_kB16uV6Q-00156-00033753-00033992 has also said Andy on stage says he 9H_kB16uV6Q-00157-00033993-00034211 tries to go out and talk to customers 9H_kB16uV6Q-00158-00034212-00034493 every week I joked that before the start 9H_kB16uV6Q-00159-00034494-00034777 of this that every lethean request I get 9H_kB16uV6Q-00160-00034778-00035087 you're already a connection of that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00161-00035088-00035309 LinkedIn request how important is it for 9H_kB16uV6Q-00162-00035310-00035552 you to talk to your internal staff as 9H_kB16uV6Q-00163-00035553-00035954 well as your external customers to to 9H_kB16uV6Q-00164-00035955-00036239 get the pulse of this operations and dev 9H_kB16uV6Q-00165-00036240-00036464 and developer movement going and and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00166-00036465-00036701 infused into the culture of VMware well 9H_kB16uV6Q-00167-00036702-00036908 Keith I appreciate the kind words listen 9H_kB16uV6Q-00168-00036909-00037162 when we decided who to partner with and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00169-00037163-00037304 how to partner with me and made the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00170-00037305-00037505 announcement last year we went and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00171-00037506-00037627 talked to our customers we're very 9H_kB16uV6Q-00172-00037628-00037793 customer and client focused as are they 9H_kB16uV6Q-00173-00037794-00038054 and we began to hear may proportional to 9H_kB16uV6Q-00174-00038055-00038270 the market share stats AWS most 9H_kB16uV6Q-00175-00038271-00038477 prominently and every one of our 9H_kB16uV6Q-00176-00038478-00038609 customers were telling us the same thing 9H_kB16uV6Q-00177-00038610-00038768 that both Andy and us we're asking which 9H_kB16uV6Q-00178-00038769-00038984 is why couldn't you get the best of both 9H_kB16uV6Q-00179-00038985-00039202 worlds you're making a choice now we had 9H_kB16uV6Q-00180-00039203-00039311 a little bit of an impediment in the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00181-00039312-00039439 sense that we had tried to build a 9H_kB16uV6Q-00182-00039440-00039658 public cloud with vCloud air but once we 9H_kB16uV6Q-00183-00039659-00039814 made the decision that we 9H_kB16uV6Q-00184-00039815-00039967 getting out of that business divested 9H_kB16uV6Q-00185-00039968-00040153 took care of those clients the door 9H_kB16uV6Q-00186-00040154-00040456 really opened up and we started to test 9H_kB16uV6Q-00187-00040457-00040642 pulse with a couple of customers under 9H_kB16uV6Q-00188-00040643-00040864 NDA what if you were to imagine a 9H_kB16uV6Q-00189-00040865-00041035 partnership between us and Amazon what 9H_kB16uV6Q-00190-00041036-00041281 would you think and man I can tell you a 9H_kB16uV6Q-00191-00041282-00041410 couple of these customers some of who 9H_kB16uV6Q-00192-00041411-00041530 are on stage within time of the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00193-00041531-00041704 announcement fell off their chair this 9H_kB16uV6Q-00194-00041705-00041866 would be huge this is going to be like a 9H_kB16uV6Q-00195-00041867-00042016 one customers that's gonna be like a 9H_kB16uV6Q-00196-00042017-00042241 Berlin Wall moment the US and the Soviet 9H_kB16uV6Q-00197-00042242-00042508 Union getting together I mean the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00198-00042509-00042694 momentum building up to it so now what 9H_kB16uV6Q-00199-00042695-00042814 we've got to do it's been a year later 9H_kB16uV6Q-00200-00042815-00043078 we've shipped the release the momentum 9H_kB16uV6Q-00201-00043079-00043318 still is pretty high there we've gotta 9H_kB16uV6Q-00202-00043319-00043492 now start to really make this actionable 9H_kB16uV6Q-00203-00043493-00043738 get customers excited most of my 9H_kB16uV6Q-00204-00043739-00043867 meetings here have been with customers 9H_kB16uV6Q-00205-00043868-00044044 system integrators I came from one of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00206-00044045-00044185 the largest at size in the world they're 9H_kB16uV6Q-00207-00044186-00044323 seeing this as a big part of the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00208-00044324-00044542 momentum our booth here is pretty 9H_kB16uV6Q-00209-00044543-00044725 crowded we've got to make sure now that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00210-00044726-00044914 this the customers can start realizing 9H_kB16uV6Q-00211-00044915-00045145 the value well remember and a DUP used 9H_kB16uV6Q-00212-00045146-00045301 to build the other thing that as you 9H_kB16uV6Q-00213-00045302-00045582 mentioned that both sides did very 9H_kB16uV6Q-00214-00045583-00045856 explicitly in the design of this was to 9H_kB16uV6Q-00215-00045857-00046015 ensure that each other's engineering 9H_kB16uV6Q-00216-00046016-00046162 teams were closely embedded so it's 9H_kB16uV6Q-00217-00046163-00046354 almost like having an engineering team 9H_kB16uV6Q-00218-00046355-00046600 of VMware embedded inside Amazon and an 9H_kB16uV6Q-00219-00046601-00046756 engineering team of Amazon embedded 9H_kB16uV6Q-00220-00046757-00046927 inside that's how closely we work 9H_kB16uV6Q-00221-00046928-00047146 together never done before in the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00222-00047147-00047299 history of both companies I don't think 9H_kB16uV6Q-00223-00047300-00047401 they've ever done there with anybody 9H_kB16uV6Q-00224-00047402-00047575 else certainly the level of time that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00225-00047576-00047731 represents the trust we had with each 9H_kB16uV6Q-00226-00047732-00047761 other 9H_kB16uV6Q-00227-00047762-00047905 so I gotta ask you we were talking some 9H_kB16uV6Q-00228-00047906-00048031 folks last night are saying that you 9H_kB16uV6Q-00229-00048032-00048217 were coming on the cube and I said what 9H_kB16uV6Q-00230-00048218-00048388 should I ask Sanjay you know I want to 9H_kB16uV6Q-00231-00048389-00048526 get him a singer I want to get him off 9H_kB16uV6Q-00232-00048527-00048757 as messaging hard to do but we'll try 9H_kB16uV6Q-00233-00048758-00049030 they said asking about security sorry I 9H_kB16uV6Q-00234-00049031-00049150 asked you because security has been 9H_kB16uV6Q-00235-00049151-00049351 Amazon's kryptonite for many years 9H_kB16uV6Q-00236-00049352-00049492 they've done the work in the public 9H_kB16uV6Q-00237-00049493-00049660 sector they've done the work in the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00238-00049661-00049885 cloud with security and is paying off of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00239-00049886-00050143 them security still needs to get solved 9H_kB16uV6Q-00240-00050144-00050440 it's a solvable problem whether what is 9H_kB16uV6Q-00241-00050441-00050623 your stance on security now that you got 9H_kB16uV6Q-00242-00050624-00050824 the private and hybrid going on with the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00243-00050825-00051019 public so anything change there you got 9H_kB16uV6Q-00244-00051020-00051157 the air wash you're proud of that but 9H_kB16uV6Q-00245-00051158-00051244 what else is going on 9H_kB16uV6Q-00246-00051245-00051460 listen I think quietly VMware has become 9H_kB16uV6Q-00247-00051461-00051724 one of the prominent brands that have 9H_kB16uV6Q-00248-00051725-00052078 been talked about in security we had a 9H_kB16uV6Q-00249-00052079-00052309 CIO survey that I saw recently in 9H_kB16uV6Q-00250-00052310-00052522 network security where increasingly 9H_kB16uV6Q-00251-00052523-00052645 customers are talking about VMware 9H_kB16uV6Q-00252-00052646-00052933 because of NSX when I go to the air 9H_kB16uV6Q-00253-00052934-00053102 watch conference I look 9H_kB16uV6Q-00254-00053103-00053234 the business cards are people and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00255-00053235-00053491 they're all in the security domain of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00256-00053492-00053738 endpoint security so what we're finding 9H_kB16uV6Q-00257-00053739-00054008 is that security requires a new view of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00258-00054009-00054296 it where it can't be 6000 vendors it 9H_kB16uV6Q-00259-00054297-00054461 feels like a strip mall where every 9H_kB16uV6Q-00260-00054462-00054665 little shop has got its boutique little 9H_kB16uV6Q-00261-00054666-00054866 thing that you ought to buy and when you 9H_kB16uV6Q-00262-00054866-00055070 buy a car you expect a lot of the things 9H_kB16uV6Q-00263-00055071-00055265 to be solved in the core aspects of the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00264-00055266-00055388 car as opposed to buying a lot of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00265-00055389-00055613 add-ons so our point of view first off 9H_kB16uV6Q-00266-00055614-00055784 is that security needs to baked into the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00267-00055785-00055942 infrastructure we're gonna do that with 9H_kB16uV6Q-00268-00055944-00056123 products like NSX that baked it into the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00269-00056124-00056312 datacenter with products like air watch 9H_kB16uV6Q-00270-00056313-00056459 and workspace one that baked it into the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00271-00056460-00056641 endpoint and with products like app 9H_kB16uV6Q-00272-00056642-00056882 defense that even take it deeper into 9H_kB16uV6Q-00273-00056883-00057140 the core of the hypervisor given that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00274-00057141-00057355 we've begun to also really focus our 9H_kB16uV6Q-00275-00057357-00057635 education of customers on higher level 9H_kB16uV6Q-00276-00057636-00057872 terms I was talking to a CIO yesterday 9H_kB16uV6Q-00277-00057873-00058148 who was educating his board on what are 9H_kB16uV6Q-00278-00058149-00058289 some of the key things in cyber security 9H_kB16uV6Q-00279-00058290-00058502 they need to worry about and the CIO 9H_kB16uV6Q-00280-00058503-00058748 said this to me the magic word that he 9H_kB16uV6Q-00281-00058749-00059060 is training all of his board members on 9H_kB16uV6Q-00282-00059061-00059314 is segmentation now micro segmentation 9H_kB16uV6Q-00283-00059315-00059554 segmentation is a very simple concept 9H_kB16uV6Q-00284-00059555-00059795 that NSX sort of pioneered will finally 9H_kB16uV6Q-00285-00059796-00059987 that now to become very relevant same 9H_kB16uV6Q-00286-00059988-00060209 that's paying off paying up big time 9H_kB16uV6Q-00287-00060210-00060374 wanna crime picture taught us that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00288-00060375-00060583 patching probably is a very important 9H_kB16uV6Q-00289-00060584-00060832 aspect of what people need to do 9H_kB16uV6Q-00290-00060833-00061097 encryption you could argue a lot of what 9H_kB16uV6Q-00291-00061098-00061255 happened in the Equifax may have been 9H_kB16uV6Q-00292-00061257-00061460 mitigated if the data been encrypted 9H_kB16uV6Q-00293-00061461-00061670 identity multi-factor authentication so 9H_kB16uV6Q-00294-00061671-00061784 we're seeing a couple of these key 9H_kB16uV6Q-00295-00061785-00062021 things being hygiene that we can educate 9H_kB16uV6Q-00296-00062022-00062210 people better on in security it really 9H_kB16uV6Q-00297-00062211-00062378 is becoming a key part to our stories to 9H_kB16uV6Q-00298-00062379-00062603 yourself top-tier security provider 9H_kB16uV6Q-00299-00062604-00062852 listen we are part of an ecosystem but 9H_kB16uV6Q-00300-00062853-00063041 our point of view and security now is 9H_kB16uV6Q-00301-00063041-00063308 very well informed in helping people on 9H_kB16uV6Q-00302-00063309-00063515 the data center to the endpoint to the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00303-00063516-00063689 cloud and helping them with some of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00304-00063690-00063841 these key areas and we're because we're 9H_kB16uV6Q-00305-00063842-00064061 so customer focused we don't come in at 9H_kB16uV6Q-00306-00064062-00064279 this from the way a traditional security 9H_kB16uV6Q-00307-00064280-00064598 players providing access to you know and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00308-00064599-00064739 we don't necessarily have a brand there 9H_kB16uV6Q-00309-00064740-00064930 but increasingly we're finding with the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00310-00064932-00065189 success of NSX workspace one and the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00311-00065190-00065303 introduction of new products like app 9H_kB16uV6Q-00312-00065304-00065477 defense we're building a point of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00313-00065478-00065624 security that's highly differentiated 9H_kB16uV6Q-00314-00065625-00065909 and unique so Sanjay big acquisition and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00315-00065910-00066175 sdram space tell us how does 9H_kB16uV6Q-00316-00066176-00066538 that that Hofstra security player and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00317-00066539-00066829 this acquisition in SD wins the edge the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00318-00066830-00067081 cloud plays into VMware which is 9H_kB16uV6Q-00319-00067082-00067369 traditionally a data center company SD 9H_kB16uV6Q-00320-00067370-00067616 win help us understand that acquisition 9H_kB16uV6Q-00321-00067617-00067930 question so as we saw the data center 9H_kB16uV6Q-00322-00067931-00068098 and the cloud starting to develop right 9H_kB16uV6Q-00323-00068099-00068338 that people understand pretty well we 9H_kB16uV6Q-00324-00068339-00068548 began to also hear and see another 9H_kB16uV6Q-00325-00068549-00068753 aspect of what people were starting to 9H_kB16uV6Q-00326-00068754-00068968 see happen which was the edge and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00327-00068969-00069151 increasingly IOT is one driver of that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00328-00069152-00069373 and our customers started to say to us 9H_kB16uV6Q-00329-00069374-00069574 listen if you're driving in a sex and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00330-00069575-00069787 its success in the data center wouldn't 9H_kB16uV6Q-00331-00069788-00069913 it be good to also have a 9H_kB16uV6Q-00332-00069914-00070144 software-defined wide area network 9H_kB16uV6Q-00333-00070145-00070387 strategy that allows us to take that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00334-00070388-00070547 benefit of networking software-defined 9H_kB16uV6Q-00335-00070548-00070863 networking to the branch to the edge so 9H_kB16uV6Q-00336-00070864-00071119 increasingly we had a choice do we build 9H_kB16uV6Q-00337-00071120-00071353 that ourselves on top of NSX and build 9H_kB16uV6Q-00338-00071354-00071516 out an ST wine capability which we could 9H_kB16uV6Q-00339-00071517-00071722 have done or do we go and look at our 9H_kB16uV6Q-00340-00071723-00071824 customers so we're going to start 9H_kB16uV6Q-00341-00071825-00071944 talking for example win and talk to 9H_kB16uV6Q-00342-00071945-00072169 telcos like AT&T and they said the best 9H_kB16uV6Q-00343-00072170-00072331 solution out there is a conveyor belt 9H_kB16uV6Q-00344-00072332-00072553 cloud we start to talk to customers who 9H_kB16uV6Q-00345-00072554-00072853 are using them and we analyze the space 9H_kB16uV6Q-00346-00072854-00073024 and we felt it would be much faster for 9H_kB16uV6Q-00347-00073025-00073310 us to buy rather than build a story of a 9H_kB16uV6Q-00348-00073311-00073468 software-defined networking story that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00349-00073469-00073674 goes from the data center to the branch 9H_kB16uV6Q-00350-00073675-00073916 and bello cloud was well-regarded I 9H_kB16uV6Q-00351-00073917-00074086 would view this you know it's early and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00352-00074087-00074228 we haven't closed the acquisition as yet 9H_kB16uV6Q-00353-00074229-00074471 but once we close this this has all the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00354-00074472-00074668 potential to have the type of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00355-00074669-00074899 transformative effect like an air watch 9H_kB16uV6Q-00356-00074900-00075091 or a nice Syrah hat in a different way 9H_kB16uV6Q-00357-00075092-00075376 at the edge and we think the idea of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00358-00075377-00075661 edge core which is the data center in 9H_kB16uV6Q-00359-00075662-00075890 cloud become very key aspects of where 9H_kB16uV6Q-00360-00075891-00076097 infrastructure play and it becomes a 9H_kB16uV6Q-00361-00076098-00076223 partnership opportunity well applaud 9H_kB16uV6Q-00362-00076224-00076340 will become a partnership opportunity 9H_kB16uV6Q-00363-00076341-00076585 with the telcos with the AWS of the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00364-00076586-00076768 world and with the traditional 9H_kB16uV6Q-00365-00076769-00077056 enterprises so bring it all together for 9H_kB16uV6Q-00366-00077057-00077605 us data center nsx edge SD win AirWatch 9H_kB16uV6Q-00367-00077606-00078148 capability an IOT how does all of that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00368-00078149-00078406 connect together you should look at i/o 9H_kB16uV6Q-00369-00078407-00078591 T and edge being kind of related topics 9H_kB16uV6Q-00370-00078592-00078856 data center and the core being related 9H_kB16uV6Q-00371-00078857-00079090 topics cloud being a third and then of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00372-00079091-00079261 course the end-user landscape and the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00373-00079262-00079408 endpoint being where it is 9H_kB16uV6Q-00374-00079409-00079633 those would be the four areas data 9H_kB16uV6Q-00375-00079634-00079795 center being the core of where VMware 9H_kB16uV6Q-00376-00079796-00079963 started that's always gonna be up and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00377-00079964-00080248 our stick there so to speak is that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00378-00080249-00080398 we're gonna take what was done in 9H_kB16uV6Q-00379-00080399-00080566 hardware and do it in software 9H_kB16uV6Q-00380-00080567-00080836 significantly cheaper less complex and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00381-00080837-00081055 make a lot of money then but then we 9H_kB16uV6Q-00382-00081056-00081223 will help people bridge into the cloud 9H_kB16uV6Q-00383-00081224-00081457 and bridge into the edge that's the core 9H_kB16uV6Q-00384-00081458-00081616 part of our strategy data center first 9H_kB16uV6Q-00385-00081617-00081952 cloud edge and then the end user world 9H_kB16uV6Q-00386-00081953-00082123 sits on top of all of that because every 9H_kB16uV6Q-00387-00082124-00082438 device today is either a phone a tablet 9H_kB16uV6Q-00388-00082439-00082759 or a laptop and you there's no vendor 9H_kB16uV6Q-00389-00082760-00082939 that can manage the heterogeneous 9H_kB16uV6Q-00390-00082940-00083206 landscape today of Apple devices Google 9H_kB16uV6Q-00391-00083207-00083590 devices Apple being iOS and Mac Android 9H_kB16uV6Q-00392-00083591-00083830 Chrome in the case of Google or Windows 9H_kB16uV6Q-00393-00083831-00084010 10 in the case of Microsoft that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00394-00084011-00084181 heterogeneous landscape managing and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00395-00084182-00084358 securing that which is what AirWatch and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00396-00084359-00084577 workspace one does is uniquely ours so 9H_kB16uV6Q-00397-00084578-00084775 we think this proposition of data center 9H_kB16uV6Q-00398-00084776-00085051 cloud edge and end-user computing huge 9H_kB16uV6Q-00399-00085052-00085228 opportunity for VMware so can we expect 9H_kB16uV6Q-00400-00085229-00085432 to see in sx is the core of that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00401-00085433-00085672 absolutely nsx becomes to us as 9H_kB16uV6Q-00402-00085673-00085867 important as ESX was in fact that's kind 9H_kB16uV6Q-00403-00085868-00086083 of why we like the name it becomes the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00404-00086084-00086338 backbone and platform for everything we 9H_kB16uV6Q-00405-00086339-00086542 do that connects the data center the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00406-00086543-00086776 cloud it's a key part of EMC for example 9H_kB16uV6Q-00407-00086777-00087061 it connects the color the data center to 9H_kB16uV6Q-00408-00087062-00087244 the edge hence what we're done with 9H_kB16uV6Q-00409-00087245-00087463 SDRAM and it's also a key part to what 9H_kB16uV6Q-00410-00087464-00087682 connects to the end user world when you 9H_kB16uV6Q-00411-00087683-00087844 connect network security with what we're 9H_kB16uV6Q-00412-00087845-00087952 doing with AirWatch which we announced 9H_kB16uV6Q-00413-00087953-00088255 two years ago you get magic so we think 9H_kB16uV6Q-00414-00088256-00088465 nsx becomes a fundamental and we're only 9H_kB16uV6Q-00415-00088466-00088654 in the first a second or third inning of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00416-00088655-00088834 software-defined networking you know we 9H_kB16uV6Q-00417-00088835-00089026 have a few thousand customers okay of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00418-00089027-00089251 NSX that's a fraction of the 500 9H_kB16uV6Q-00419-00089252-00089416 thousand customers of VMware we think we 9H_kB16uV6Q-00420-00089417-00089584 can take that in and the the networking 9H_kB16uV6Q-00421-00089585-00089809 markets an 80 billion dollar market ripe 9H_kB16uV6Q-00422-00089810-00090025 for a lot of innovation Sanjay I want to 9H_kB16uV6Q-00423-00090026-00090151 get your perspective on the industry 9H_kB16uV6Q-00424-00090152-00090481 landscape Amazon houses results I laid 9H_kB16uV6Q-00425-00090482-00090646 it out on my Forbes story and in silken 9H_kB16uV6Q-00426-00090647-00090820 angle all the coverage go check it out 9H_kB16uV6Q-00427-00090821-00091087 but basically as Amazon is going so fast 9H_kB16uV6Q-00428-00091088-00091327 the developers are voting with their 9H_kB16uV6Q-00429-00091328-00091576 workloads so their cloud thing is the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00430-00091577-00091759 elastic cloud they check they will 9H_kB16uV6Q-00431-00091760-00091936 they're winning and winning you guys own 9H_kB16uV6Q-00432-00091937-00092200 the enterprise data center operating 9H_kB16uV6Q-00433-00092201-00092341 model which is private cloud I buy that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00434-00092342-00092584 but it's all still one cloud IOT I I 9H_kB16uV6Q-00435-00092585-00092696 like that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00436-00092697-00092887 the question is how do you explain it to 9H_kB16uV6Q-00437-00092888-00093031 the people that don't know what's going 9H_kB16uV6Q-00438-00093032-00093071 on 9H_kB16uV6Q-00439-00093072-00093386 I mean share your color on what's 9H_kB16uV6Q-00440-00093387-00093562 happening here because like this is a 9H_kB16uV6Q-00441-00093563-00093862 historic moment it's a racist inscribing 9H_kB16uV6Q-00442-00093863-00094055 this to my wife or to my mother or 9H_kB16uV6Q-00443-00094056-00094166 somebody who's not and say listen 9H_kB16uV6Q-00444-00094167-00094375 there's a world of tech companies that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00445-00094376-00094649 applies to the consumer in fact when I 9H_kB16uV6Q-00446-00094650-00094805 look at my ticker list I've divided them 9H_kB16uV6Q-00447-00094806-00094997 on consumer and enterprise these are 9H_kB16uV6Q-00448-00094998-00095212 companies like Apple and Google and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00449-00095213-00095401 Facebook they may have aspirations 9H_kB16uV6Q-00450-00095402-00095482 enterprise but they're primarily 9H_kB16uV6Q-00451-00095483-00095636 consumer companies and those are 9H_kB16uV6Q-00452-00095637-00095747 actually what most people can relate to 9H_kB16uV6Q-00453-00095748-00095950 and those those are now some of the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00454-00095951-00096082 biggest market cap companies in the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00455-00096083-00096272 world when you look at the enterprise 9H_kB16uV6Q-00456-00096273-00096449 typically you can divide them into 9H_kB16uV6Q-00457-00096450-00096619 applications companies companies like 9H_kB16uV6Q-00458-00096620-00096905 Salesforce sa P and parts of Oracle and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00459-00096906-00097124 others work day and then companies in 9H_kB16uV6Q-00460-00097125-00097280 infrastructure which is where companies 9H_kB16uV6Q-00461-00097281-00097559 like VMware and group and AWS and so on 9H_kB16uV6Q-00462-00097560-00097871 fit I think what's happening is there's 9H_kB16uV6Q-00463-00097872-00098084 a significant shift because of the cloud 9H_kB16uV6Q-00464-00098085-00098356 to a whole new avenue of spending where 9H_kB16uV6Q-00465-00098357-00098549 every company has to think about 9H_kB16uV6Q-00466-00098550-00098830 themselves as a technology company and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00467-00098831-00098962 the same things happening with mobile 9H_kB16uV6Q-00468-00098963-00099167 devices so cloud mobile security ties 9H_kB16uV6Q-00469-00099168-00099319 many of those conversations together and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00470-00099320-00099526 there are companies that are innovators 9H_kB16uV6Q-00471-00099527-00099712 and they're companies like you decide 9H_kB16uV6Q-00472-00099713-00099866 that you described earlier John at the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00473-00099867-00100012 start of this show it's going to become 9H_kB16uV6Q-00474-00100013-00100079 extinct 9H_kB16uV6Q-00475-00100080-00100259 alright so my thesis is this I want to 9H_kB16uV6Q-00476-00100260-00100415 get your reaction to this I believe a 9H_kB16uV6Q-00477-00100416-00100612 software renaissance is coming yes and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00478-00100613-00100762 it's gonna be operated differently and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00479-00100763-00100835 you guys are already kind of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00480-00100836-00101125 telegraphing your move so the if that's 9H_kB16uV6Q-00481-00101126-00101413 the case then a whole new guard is gonna 9H_kB16uV6Q-00482-00101414-00101585 be developing he calls it the new garden 9H_kB16uV6Q-00483-00101586-00101761 the old guard he refers to how the older 9H_kB16uV6Q-00484-00101762-00102011 guards so my criticism of him was is 9H_kB16uV6Q-00485-00102012-00102199 that he put a Gartner slide up there 9H_kB16uV6Q-00486-00102200-00102449 that I says old guard as you get so 9H_kB16uV6Q-00487-00102450-00102623 Andy's promoting this whole new guard 9H_kB16uV6Q-00488-00102624-00102872 thing yet he puts up the Gartner Magic 9H_kB16uV6Q-00489-00102873-00103114 Quadrant for infrastructures of service 9H_kB16uV6Q-00490-00103115-00103298 that's irrelevant to his entire 9H_kB16uV6Q-00491-00103299-00103540 presentation ah hold on the question is 9H_kB16uV6Q-00492-00103541-00103751 you know about Gardner cuz they're all 9H_kB16uV6Q-00493-00103752-00103946 on their old guard don't the Phantom to 9H_kB16uV6Q-00494-00103947-00104131 fast I know the buyers see if they trust 9H_kB16uV6Q-00495-00104132-00104477 Gardner maybe not the point is what are 9H_kB16uV6Q-00496-00104478-00104699 the new metrics we need new metrics 9H_kB16uV6Q-00497-00104700-00104894 because the cloud is horizontally 9H_kB16uV6Q-00498-00104895-00105122 scalable yeah this integrated you got 9H_kB16uV6Q-00499-00105123-00105314 software driving decision making it's 9H_kB16uV6Q-00500-00105315-00105563 not about a category it's about a 9H_kB16uV6Q-00501-00105564-00105815 Rick listen I'm not here to I'm a friend 9H_kB16uV6Q-00502-00105816-00105958 of Andy I love what he what he talked 9H_kB16uV6Q-00503-00105959-00106100 about and I'm not here to defend or 9H_kB16uV6Q-00504-00106101-00106285 criticize Gartner but what I liked about 9H_kB16uV6Q-00505-00106286-00106517 his presentation was he showed the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00506-00106518-00106667 garden it's like probably about 20 9H_kB16uV6Q-00507-00106668-00106841 minutes into the presentation he started 9H_kB16uV6Q-00508-00106842-00107108 off by his metrics of revenue and number 9H_kB16uV6Q-00509-00107108-00107351 of customers so listen I mean I guess 9H_kB16uV6Q-00510-00107352-00107554 moment Gardner gives you like the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00511-00107555-00107813 customers is what counts the most the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00512-00107814-00108047 most important metric is adoption and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00513-00108048-00108224 last year he said there was about a 9H_kB16uV6Q-00514-00108225-00108338 million customers this year he said 9H_kB16uV6Q-00515-00108339-00108535 several million and if it's true that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00516-00108536-00108776 both startups and enterprises are 9H_kB16uV6Q-00517-00108777-00108958 adopting this adopting I don't mean just 9H_kB16uV6Q-00518-00108959-00109214 buying there is momentum here now 9H_kB16uV6Q-00519-00109215-00109382 irrespective the analysts talking about 9H_kB16uV6Q-00520-00109383-00109616 this should be hopefully all right so I 9H_kB16uV6Q-00521-00109617-00109745 know either company and I said that in 9H_kB16uV6Q-00522-00109746-00109931 the queue before of course and Microsoft 9H_kB16uV6Q-00523-00109932-00110120 could say we listen to customers too and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00524-00110121-00110258 we have a zillion customers running 9H_kB16uV6Q-00525-00110258-00110540 office 365 is that really cloud or faked 9H_kB16uV6Q-00526-00110541-00110678 alone I mean listen at the end of the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00527-00110679-00110930 day I'm not you know what at the end of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00528-00110931-00111155 the day it's not a winner take all 9H_kB16uV6Q-00529-00111156-00111392 market to one player I think all of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00530-00111393-00111554 these companies will be successful they 9H_kB16uV6Q-00531-00111555-00111749 have different strategies Microsoft 9H_kB16uV6Q-00532-00111750-00112009 strategy is driven from office 365 and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00533-00112010-00112268 some of what they can do in Windows into 9H_kB16uV6Q-00534-00112269-00112514 Azure these folks have come up from the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00535-00112515-00112646 bottom up 9H_kB16uV6Q-00536-00112647-00112786 Oracle's trying to come at it from a 9H_kB16uV6Q-00537-00112788-00112916 different angle Google's trying to come 9H_kB16uV6Q-00538-00112917-00113045 at a different angle and the good news 9H_kB16uV6Q-00539-00113046-00113219 is all of these companies have deep 9H_kB16uV6Q-00540-00113220-00113471 pockets and will invest Amazon does have 9H_kB16uV6Q-00541-00113472-00113659 a head start they are number one in the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00542-00113660-00113864 mom's phrases so modern applications 9H_kB16uV6Q-00543-00113865-00114083 could be I'll by the customer workload 9H_kB16uV6Q-00544-00114083-00114377 argument if it's defined as a modern app 9H_kB16uV6Q-00545-00114378-00114581 because Oracle could say I got a zillion 9H_kB16uV6Q-00546-00114582-00114779 customers too and they win on that those 9H_kB16uV6Q-00547-00114780-00114883 numbers are pretty strong so is 9H_kB16uV6Q-00548-00114884-00115106 Microsoft but to me the cloud is showing 9H_kB16uV6Q-00549-00115107-00115343 a new model absolutely so what is in 9H_kB16uV6Q-00550-00115344-00115580 your mind good metric to saying that's a 9H_kB16uV6Q-00551-00115581-00115786 modern app that is not I think when you 9H_kB16uV6Q-00552-00115788-00115991 can look at the modern companies like 9H_kB16uV6Q-00553-00115992-00116332 the Airbnb the Pinterest the slacks and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00554-00116333-00116570 whoever you know some of them are going 9H_kB16uV6Q-00555-00116571-00116690 to make a decision to do their own 9H_kB16uV6Q-00556-00116691-00116911 infrastructure Facebook does not put 9H_kB16uV6Q-00557-00116913-00117125 their I as on top of AWS or as your 9H_kB16uV6Q-00558-00117126-00117248 Google they built their own data so 9H_kB16uV6Q-00559-00117249-00117353 because they can afford to do and want 9H_kB16uV6Q-00560-00117354-00117482 to do it that's their competitive 9H_kB16uV6Q-00561-00117483-00117695 advantage but for companies who can't if 9H_kB16uV6Q-00562-00117696-00117932 they are building their apps on these 9H_kB16uV6Q-00563-00117933-00118163 platforms that's one element and then 9H_kB16uV6Q-00564-00118164-00118333 the traditional enterprises they think 9H_kB16uV6Q-00565-00118334-00118526 about their evolution if they're 9H_kB16uV6Q-00566-00118527-00118777 starting to adopt these platforms 9H_kB16uV6Q-00567-00118778-00119053 not just to migrate old applications new 9H_kB16uV6Q-00568-00119054-00119221 ones where VMware fits in all building 9H_kB16uV6Q-00569-00119222-00119428 new cloud native applications on there I 9H_kB16uV6Q-00570-00119429-00119641 think that momentum is clear when was 9H_kB16uV6Q-00571-00119642-00119941 the last time you saw a company go from 9H_kB16uV6Q-00572-00119942-00120316 zero to 18 billion in 10 years okay ten 9H_kB16uV6Q-00573-00120317-00120436 twelve years that he's been around or 9H_kB16uV6Q-00574-00120437-00120712 VMware or Salesforce go from zero to 9H_kB16uV6Q-00575-00120713-00120916 eight billion in the last 18 years this 9H_kB16uV6Q-00576-00120917-00121123 phenomenon of companies like Salesforce 9H_kB16uV6Q-00577-00121124-00121429 VMware iPad yes it's all a scale guys 9H_kB16uV6Q-00578-00121430-00121607 you gotta get to scale you gotta have 9H_kB16uV6Q-00579-00121608-00121672 value 9H_kB16uV6Q-00580-00121673-00121919 this is unprecedented like five 9H_kB16uV6Q-00581-00121920-00122183 detectives unprecedented these companies 9H_kB16uV6Q-00582-00122183-00122345 I believe are going to be the companies 9H_kB16uV6Q-00583-00122346-00122548 of the tech future I'm not saying that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00584-00122549-00122720 the old guard but if they don't change 9H_kB16uV6Q-00585-00122721-00122863 they won't be the companies that people 9H_kB16uV6Q-00586-00122864-00123049 talk about I think if you you know I 9H_kB16uV6Q-00587-00123050-00123226 mean listen the the the the the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00588-00123227-00123436 phenomenon of AWS just going from zero 9H_kB16uV6Q-00589-00123437-00123622 eighteen is I personally think and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00590-00123623-00123829 growing 40 percent on that baseline I 9H_kB16uV6Q-00591-00123830-00123934 mean and he's probably one of the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00592-00123935-00124114 greatest leaders of our modern time 9H_kB16uV6Q-00593-00124115-00124348 forget for for his role in making that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00594-00124349-00124504 happen but I think these are the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00595-00124505-00124651 companies that we watch carefully the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00596-00124652-00124837 far the companies are growing rapidly 9H_kB16uV6Q-00597-00124838-00125132 that our customers are adopting them in 9H_kB16uV6Q-00598-00125133-00125263 the hundreds of thousands if not 9H_kB16uV6Q-00599-00125264-00125539 millions there's true momentum there so 9H_kB16uV6Q-00600-00125540-00125906 Sanjay data has gravity data is also the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00601-00125907-00126349 new oil we look at what Andy has in his 9H_kB16uV6Q-00602-00126350-00126683 arsenal all the date of this and s3 that 9H_kB16uV6Q-00603-00126683-00126934 he can run all his MI and AI services 9H_kB16uV6Q-00604-00126935-00127237 against has all that's some great honey 9H_kB16uV6Q-00605-00127238-00127537 for this audience when I look at VMware 9H_kB16uV6Q-00606-00127538-00127796 there's not much of a data strategy 9H_kB16uV6Q-00607-00127797-00128065 there's a securing the data in in 9H_kB16uV6Q-00608-00128066-00128306 transit but there's not a data strategy 9H_kB16uV6Q-00609-00128307-00128531 what does VMware's data strategy and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00610-00128532-00128761 point to health customers take we listen 9H_kB16uV6Q-00611-00128762-00128923 we've talked about it in terms of our 9H_kB16uV6Q-00612-00128924-00129127 data analytics what we're doing machine 9H_kB16uV6Q-00613-00129128-00129565 learning and AI we felt this year given 9H_kB16uV6Q-00614-00129566-00129718 so much of what we had to announce 9H_kB16uV6Q-00615-00129719-00129968 around security software-defined 9H_kB16uV6Q-00616-00129969-00130279 networking the branch the edge putting 9H_kB16uV6Q-00617-00130280-00130421 more of that into VM world which is 9H_kB16uV6Q-00618-00130422-00130546 usually our big event where we announced 9H_kB16uV6Q-00619-00130547-00130711 this stuff would have just crowded our 9H_kB16uV6Q-00620-00130712-00130972 people but we began to lay the seeds of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00621-00130973-00131108 what you'll start to hear a lot more in 9H_kB16uV6Q-00622-00131109-00131335 2018 okay so not trying to make a 9H_kB16uV6Q-00623-00131336-00131584 spoiler alert for but we acquired this 9H_kB16uV6Q-00624-00131585-00131749 company wavefront that does 9H_kB16uV6Q-00625-00131750-00131996 next-generation cloud native metrics and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00626-00131997-00132114 analytics think 9H_kB16uV6Q-00627-00132115-00132346 like you did that with AppDynamics in 9H_kB16uV6Q-00628-00132347-00132483 the old world you're doing this with 9H_kB16uV6Q-00629-00132484-00132607 wavefront and the new world of cloud 9H_kB16uV6Q-00630-00132608-00132897 native we we have really rethought 9H_kB16uV6Q-00631-00132898-00133172 through how the all the data we collect 9H_kB16uV6Q-00632-00133173-00133531 whether it's on the data center or in 9H_kB16uV6Q-00633-00133532-00133776 the endpoint could be mined and become a 9H_kB16uV6Q-00634-00133777-00134068 telemetry that we actually use we bought 9H_kB16uV6Q-00635-00134069-00134289 another company apt elegent formerly 9H_kB16uV6Q-00636-00134290-00134460 called criticism that's allowing us to 9H_kB16uV6Q-00637-00134461-00134622 do that type of analytics on the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00638-00134623-00134841 endpoint you're gonna see a couple of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00639-00134842-00135039 these moves that are the breadcrumbs of 9H_kB16uV6Q-00640-00135040-00135193 what we'll start announcing a lot more 9H_kB16uV6Q-00641-00135194-00135543 of a comprehensive analytics strategy in 9H_kB16uV6Q-00642-00135544-00135810 2018 which I think we're very exciting I 9H_kB16uV6Q-00643-00135811-00135933 think the other thing we've been 9H_kB16uV6Q-00644-00135934-00136254 cautious to do is not a I wash you know 9H_kB16uV6Q-00645-00136255-00136408 there's a lot of cloud washing and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00646-00136409-00136563 machine learning washing that happened 9H_kB16uV6Q-00647-00136564-00136807 to companies that's not authentic now I 9H_kB16uV6Q-00648-00136808-00136959 think it's what they when when Andy 9H_kB16uV6Q-00649-00136960-00137119 talks about all they're doing in AI and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00650-00137120-00137271 machine learning there's an authenticity 9H_kB16uV6Q-00651-00137272-00137499 to it we want to be in the same way have 9H_kB16uV6Q-00652-00137500-00137784 a measured careful strategy and you will 9H_kB16uV6Q-00653-00137785-00137985 absolutely hear from us a lot more thank 9H_kB16uV6Q-00654-00137986-00138094 you for bringing it up because it's 9H_kB16uV6Q-00655-00138095-00138249 something that's on our radar sanjay we 9H_kB16uV6Q-00656-00138250-00138421 gotta go but thanks for coming and 9H_kB16uV6Q-00657-00138422-00138520 stopping by the key I know you're super 9H_kB16uV6Q-00658-00138521-00138699 busy and great to drop in and see you 9H_kB16uV6Q-00659-00138700-00138895 always a pleasure to animation that's 9H_kB16uV6Q-00660-00138896-00139096 keep good to talk to you again it 9H_kB16uV6Q-00661-00139097-00139236 congratulations all the success you're 9H_kB16uV6Q-00662-00139237-00139416 having with the show well we're doing 9H_kB16uV6Q-00663-00139417-00139587 our work getting the reports out there 9H_kB16uV6Q-00664-00139588-00139821 reporting here on the queue we have two 9H_kB16uV6Q-00665-00139822-00140154 sets 45,000 people exclusive coverage on 9H_kB16uV6Q-00666-00140155-00140383 silicon angle comm more data coming 9H_kB16uV6Q-00667-00140384-00140499 every day we had an hold of the day 9H_kB16uV6Q-00668-00140500-00140547 tomorrow 9H_kB16uV6Q-00669-00140548-00140763 big night tonight the Pub Crawl meetings 9H_kB16uV6Q-00670-00140764-00141027 VCS I'll be out there we'll be out there 9H_kB16uV6Q-00671-00141028-00141208 grinding it out ear to the ground go get 9H_kB16uV6Q-00672-00141209-00141372 those stories and bring it to you the 9H_kB16uV6Q-00673-00141373-00141631 cube live coverage from AWS reinvent 9H_kB16uV6Q-00674-00141632-00141895 2017 we back with more after this short 9H_kB16uV6Q-00675-00141896-00142134 break 9H_kB16uV6Q-00676-00142135-00142341 you 9JByHyPLaPy-00000-00000208-00000335 hey guys thundershot back 9JByHyPLaPy-00001-00000336-00000478 brand new videos today as you can see 9JByHyPLaPy-00002-00000479-00000647 from the 9JByHyPLaPy-00003-00000648-00000975 title thumbnail 9JByHyPLaPy-00004-00000976-00001239 and all that stuff uh today's an update 9JByHyPLaPy-00005-00001240-00001327 video 9JByHyPLaPy-00006-00001328-00001655 so this is my last day with this setup 9JByHyPLaPy-00007-00001655-00001895 not this computer setup i have i'll have 9JByHyPLaPy-00008-00001896-00001975 but uh 9JByHyPLaPy-00009-00001976-00002383 like this it's gonna be gone 9JByHyPLaPy-00010-00002384-00002558 that's that clothing in the back is 9JByHyPLaPy-00011-00002559-00002783 gonna be gone 9JByHyPLaPy-00012-00002784-00003126 uh this the whole thing's it's not there 9JByHyPLaPy-00013-00003127-00003263 it's not gonna be any videos 9JByHyPLaPy-00014-00003264-00003575 really past this for for a while 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guess the 9JByHyPLaPy-00047-00011528-00011638 channel 9JByHyPLaPy-00048-00011639-00011910 uh we've gained now all these numbers 9JByHyPLaPy-00049-00011911-00012031 might seem small 9JByHyPLaPy-00050-00012032-00012206 but competitive is my growth when i 9JByHyPLaPy-00051-00012207-00012463 uploaded somewhat consistent last time 9JByHyPLaPy-00052-00012464-00012767 uh it's very much better 9JByHyPLaPy-00053-00012768-00013063 so we have went from forty four 9JByHyPLaPy-00054-00013063-00013191 subscribers to forty nine 9JByHyPLaPy-00055-00013191-00013399 right now that seemed like a whole lot 9JByHyPLaPy-00056-00013400-00013494 but for me it's 9JByHyPLaPy-00057-00013495-00013671 very small channel that almost everyone 9JByHyPLaPy-00058-00013672-00013871 i know are subscribed it means 9JByHyPLaPy-00059-00013872-00013999 getting decent amount of subscribers 9JByHyPLaPy-00060-00014000-00014166 right all right to me it's kind of 9JByHyPLaPy-00061-00014168-00014247 insane that 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the comments i read every i've read 9JByHyPLaPy-00093-00021672-00021799 every single comment 9JByHyPLaPy-00094-00021800-00022063 on any video right i may not respond to 9JByHyPLaPy-00095-00022064-00022239 all of them but just know i care 9JByHyPLaPy-00096-00022240-00022519 all about them like i kind of neat to 9JByHyPLaPy-00097-00022520-00022663 get you know to see 9JByHyPLaPy-00098-00022664-00023007 support but anyway back to 9JByHyPLaPy-00099-00023008-00023230 stuff that people really care about is 9JByHyPLaPy-00100-00023231-00023311 uh 9JByHyPLaPy-00101-00023312-00023550 what am i doing so we're going to 9JByHyPLaPy-00102-00023551-00023719 university wisconsin earlier 9JByHyPLaPy-00103-00023720-00023886 i don't give a too much info like what 9JByHyPLaPy-00104-00023887-00024030 hall holland 9JByHyPLaPy-00105-00024031-00024358 uh our dorm room number and stuff like 9JByHyPLaPy-00106-00024359-00024478 that uh 9JByHyPLaPy-00107-00024479-00024614 all the people that need to know that 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9JByHyPLaPy-00182-00042256-00042543 but no daily uploads anymore guaranteed 9JByHyPLaPy-00183-00042544-00042671 daily i can 9JByHyPLaPy-00184-00042672-00042911 i will try my absolute best to guarantee 9JByHyPLaPy-00185-00042912-00043046 a daily upload 9JByHyPLaPy-00186-00043047-00043230 but if you guys don't see daily uploads 9JByHyPLaPy-00187-00043231-00043383 when you aren't out 9JByHyPLaPy-00188-00043384-00043655 obviously there's a reason for that and 9JByHyPLaPy-00189-00043656-00043799 i'll do my best to 9JByHyPLaPy-00190-00043800-00043983 do it and if you guys have any 9JByHyPLaPy-00191-00043984-00044167 suggestions for the channel 9JByHyPLaPy-00192-00044168-00044287 and if you guys want to see any 9JByHyPLaPy-00193-00044288-00044471 collaborative content between noah and i 9JByHyPLaPy-00194-00044472-00044502 and 9JByHyPLaPy-00195-00044503-00044887 you know we talk it over uh 9JByHyPLaPy-00196-00044888-00045030 yeah just leave some comments what you 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9JByHyPLaPy-00258-00055751-00055911 thundershot 9JByHyPLaPy-00259-00055912-00056087 uh sorry for this kind of what seemed 9JByHyPLaPy-00260-00056088-00056238 like a rush video 9JByHyPLaPy-00261-00056239-00056503 all right but you know honestly that 9JByHyPLaPy-00262-00056504-00056654 time crunch because after i finish the 9JByHyPLaPy-00263-00056655-00056735 video 9JByHyPLaPy-00264-00056736-00057007 i have to basically pack up the video i 9JByHyPLaPy-00265-00057008-00057111 have to pack up 9JByHyPLaPy-00266-00057112-00057287 this is the pc i'm using to record this 9JByHyPLaPy-00267-00057288-00057438 video 9JByHyPLaPy-00268-00057439-00057687 so thank you guys for watching guys for 9JByHyPLaPy-00269-00057688-00057815 the support last couple 9JByHyPLaPy-00270-00057816-00058079 weeks uh basically all of august it's 9JByHyPLaPy-00271-00058079-00058271 been amazing and i hope we can continue 9JByHyPLaPy-00272-00058272-00058479 this 9JByHyPLaPy-00273-00058479-00058791 and bye 9KZIcKpURjA-00000-00000504-00000707 we now have a brilliant panel of 9KZIcKpURjA-00001-00000708-00000902 speakers from a range of different 9KZIcKpURjA-00002-00000902-00001172 backgrounds and organizations who are 9KZIcKpURjA-00003-00001173-00001387 ready to discuss the subject of UK 9KZIcKpURjA-00004-00001388-00001579 policy around donor conception and 9KZIcKpURjA-00005-00001580-00001748 specifically whether it meets the needs 9KZIcKpURjA-00006-00001748-00002081 of donors so specifically on the panel 9KZIcKpURjA-00007-00002082-00002471 we have Petra Nordquist and as you've 9KZIcKpURjA-00008-00002472-00002699 already met in the first so she's in the 9KZIcKpURjA-00009-00002700-00002947 first session so Petra is the project 9KZIcKpURjA-00010-00002948-00003097 lead from the curious connections 9KZIcKpURjA-00011-00003098-00003458 project we also have Natalie gamble of 9KZIcKpURjA-00012-00003459-00003743 fertility law firm ng a law and non 9KZIcKpURjA-00013-00003744-00003947 profit surrogacy agency brilliant 9KZIcKpURjA-00014-00003947-00004277 beginnings welcome we also have a 9KZIcKpURjA-00015-00004278-00004505 welcome Leigh Bayless a sperm donor and 9KZIcKpURjA-00016-00004506-00004634 one half of the award-winning 9KZIcKpURjA-00017-00004635-00004904 performance who's your father at the 9KZIcKpURjA-00018-00004905-00005183 Edinburgh Fringe comedy of Dangerous 9KZIcKpURjA-00019-00005184-00005630 Ideas in 2019 and we also have dr. 9KZIcKpURjA-00020-00005631-00005879 Deborah Bloor director of governance for 9KZIcKpURjA-00021-00005880-00006326 Kerr fertility group and excuse me and 9KZIcKpURjA-00022-00006327-00006613 Selenia Selina Wilkinson group donation 9KZIcKpURjA-00023-00006614-00006998 lead for Kerr fertility group and also I 9KZIcKpURjA-00024-00006998-00007231 think Leah Gilman who you've also met in 9KZIcKpURjA-00025-00007233-00007454 the first session is going to join for 9KZIcKpURjA-00026-00007455-00007870 the Q&A session at the end of the panel 9KZIcKpURjA-00027-00007870-00008294 discussion before we begin the panel 9KZIcKpURjA-00028-00008295-00008558 discussion for those of you not working 9KZIcKpURjA-00029-00008559-00008771 in this specific area we thought it 9KZIcKpURjA-00030-00008772-00008894 would be helpful to give a bit of a 9KZIcKpURjA-00031-00008895-00009143 summary of what current policy is in 9KZIcKpURjA-00032-00009144-00009335 relation to information management and 9KZIcKpURjA-00033-00009336-00009662 payment the first thing is to highlight 9KZIcKpURjA-00034-00009663-00009851 that when donors consent to being a 9KZIcKpURjA-00035-00009852-00010163 donor in a UK clinic they agree to not 9KZIcKpURjA-00036-00010164-00010339 having any parental rights of 9KZIcKpURjA-00037-00010340-00010580 responsibilities in relation to any 9KZIcKpURjA-00038-00010581-00010766 children who may be born from their 9KZIcKpURjA-00039-00010767-00011060 donation at this point there was also 9KZIcKpURjA-00040-00011061-00011317 consent to identifying information about 9KZIcKpURjA-00041-00011318-00011528 themselves being made available to any 9KZIcKpURjA-00042-00011529-00011798 person conceived from their donation who 9KZIcKpURjA-00043-00011799-00011989 might request that information after 9KZIcKpURjA-00044-00011990-00012317 they turn 18 donors are not entitled to 9KZIcKpURjA-00045-00012318-00012548 any identifying information about their 9KZIcKpURjA-00046-00012549-00012782 recipients or children born from their 9KZIcKpURjA-00047-00012783-00012866 donations 9KZIcKpURjA-00048-00012866-00013082 however they kind they can find out the 9KZIcKpURjA-00049-00013083-00013303 number year of birth and sex of any 9KZIcKpURjA-00050-00013304-00013687 children born people are are often also 9KZIcKpURjA-00051-00013688-00013850 interested to know the rules on 9KZIcKpURjA-00052-00013851-00014078 payments to donors in the UK at the 9KZIcKpURjA-00053-00014079-00014246 moment clinics are not allowed to 9KZIcKpURjA-00054-00014247-00014435 advertise financial incentives for 9KZIcKpURjA-00055-00014436-00014675 donating but they are allowed to make 9KZIcKpURjA-00056-00014676-00014953 payments to cover expenses though you 9KZIcKpURjA-00057-00014954-00015233 these are usually a fixed sum of 750 9KZIcKpURjA-00058-00015234-00015533 pounds per cycle for egg donors and 35 9KZIcKpURjA-00059-00015534-00015730 pounds per visit to the clinic for sperm 9KZIcKpURjA-00060-00015731-00016025 donors many clinics also offer egg 9KZIcKpURjA-00061-00016026-00016264 sharing programs whereby women are 9KZIcKpURjA-00062-00016265-00016499 offered reduced cost IVF treatment in 9KZIcKpURjA-00063-00016500-00016675 exchange for donating half their eggs 9KZIcKpURjA-00064-00016676-00016909 during the cycle typically these 9KZIcKpURjA-00065-00016910-00017099 programs reduced treatment cost by half 9KZIcKpURjA-00066-00017100-00017321 but we've heard of clinics who offer 9KZIcKpURjA-00067-00017322-00017556 free IVF treatment for egg share as to 9KZIcKpURjA-00068-00017557-00017875 the final thing to say is that in the UK 9KZIcKpURjA-00069-00017876-00018061 we have a system which enables lots of 9KZIcKpURjA-00070-00018062-00018311 different pathways to donation the most 9KZIcKpURjA-00071-00018312-00018622 common pathway in clinics is for donors 9KZIcKpURjA-00072-00018623-00018794 and recipients to be anonymous to one 9KZIcKpURjA-00073-00018795-00019046 another and match through clinics but 9KZIcKpURjA-00074-00019047-00019258 it's possible for recipients to attend 9KZIcKpURjA-00075-00019259-00019493 clinics with a known donor someone they 9KZIcKpURjA-00076-00019494-00019664 already know or someone they've met for 9KZIcKpURjA-00077-00019665-00019919 the purposes of donation there are also 9KZIcKpURjA-00078-00019920-00020147 now thriving websites and online groups 9KZIcKpURjA-00079-00020148-00020378 in which donors and recipients can meet 9KZIcKpURjA-00080-00020379-00020558 and often sperm donations are made 9KZIcKpURjA-00081-00020559-00020818 outside of clinics because they're made 9KZIcKpURjA-00082-00020819-00021005 outside of clinics donations made in 9KZIcKpURjA-00083-00021006-00021169 this way are not subject to the same 9KZIcKpURjA-00084-00021170-00021449 regulations ok so that's a bit of 9KZIcKpURjA-00085-00021450-00021605 context and I know some of the questions 9KZIcKpURjA-00086-00021606-00021790 that be going on on the chat have been 9KZIcKpURjA-00087-00021791-00022040 to do with that so I hope that's that's 9KZIcKpURjA-00088-00022041-00022325 helpful we're going to begin the panel 9KZIcKpURjA-00089-00022326-00022792 discussion now and we're leading with 9KZIcKpURjA-00090-00022793-00023399 Petra and Leah I think yeah you need to 9KZIcKpURjA-00091-00023400-00023740 unmute 9KZIcKpURjA-00092-00023741-00024679 oh okay hello welcome back I hope you 9KZIcKpURjA-00093-00024680-00024823 had a nice break I thought it was rather 9KZIcKpURjA-00094-00024824-00025012 Richard not to be able to have a piece 9KZIcKpURjA-00095-00025013-00025267 of cake with everybody but so I had a 9KZIcKpURjA-00096-00025268-00025564 biscuit instead in my less at home but I 9KZIcKpURjA-00097-00025565-00025774 shall talk now about policy of the 9KZIcKpURjA-00098-00025775-00026002 donor-recipient connection as something 9KZIcKpURjA-00099-00026002-00026200 that has come out of the study so I will 9KZIcKpURjA-00100-00026201-00026488 give this talk but Lea will Lee is also 9KZIcKpURjA-00101-00026489-00026725 part of it will be joining us later as 9KZIcKpURjA-00102-00026726-00027094 as Jennifer said so as Jennifer already 9KZIcKpURjA-00103-00027095-00027301 said the out of the donors recipients 9KZIcKpURjA-00104-00027302-00027493 and donor conceived children only donor 9KZIcKpURjA-00105-00027494-00027655 conceived children have the right to 9KZIcKpURjA-00106-00027656-00027925 trace donors or trace anyone else or 9KZIcKpURjA-00107-00027926-00028185 seek information about that other person 9KZIcKpURjA-00108-00028186-00028470 and what I won't just ask in this 9KZIcKpURjA-00109-00028472-00028657 ten-minute presentation is to say might 9KZIcKpURjA-00110-00028658-00028810 it also be relevant for policy to 9KZIcKpURjA-00111-00028811-00029061 recognize and acknowledge to some extent 9KZIcKpURjA-00112-00029062-00029335 that can also be a sense of connection 9KZIcKpURjA-00113-00029336-00029629 felt between donors and recipients this 9KZIcKpURjA-00114-00029630-00029968 is currently recognized to some extent 9KZIcKpURjA-00115-00029969-00030172 in UK donation policy in other areas for 9KZIcKpURjA-00116-00030173-00030436 example organ donation where Dana sorry 9KZIcKpURjA-00117-00030437-00030682 secured beneath your consent can begin a 9KZIcKpURjA-00118-00030683-00030914 process of getting to know one another 9KZIcKpURjA-00119-00030916-00031126 so looking at this from the point of 9KZIcKpURjA-00120-00031127-00031267 view of the donors that we've spoken to 9KZIcKpURjA-00121-00031268-00031438 you we suggest that many donors 9KZIcKpURjA-00122-00031439-00031648 experience this connection with 9KZIcKpURjA-00123-00031649-00031822 recipients as something that is 9KZIcKpURjA-00124-00031823-00031987 significant in its own right 9KZIcKpURjA-00125-00031988-00032214 so not is not develop the sort of the 9KZIcKpURjA-00126-00032216-00032611 child they hope will be sort of will be 9KZIcKpURjA-00127-00032612-00032749 the outcome of this connection but it's 9KZIcKpURjA-00128-00032750-00032899 actually an important connection in its 9KZIcKpURjA-00129-00032900-00033145 own right so we're not the first people 9KZIcKpURjA-00130-00033146-00033310 to notice this the previous research 9KZIcKpURjA-00131-00033311-00033505 have also noticed this sort of sense of 9KZIcKpURjA-00132-00033506-00033718 connection but what we want to do in 9KZIcKpURjA-00133-00033719-00033910 this study and in these presentations 9KZIcKpURjA-00134-00033911-00034147 it's a note that it isn't just something 9KZIcKpURjA-00135-00034148-00034381 connecting two points together if you 9KZIcKpURjA-00136-00034382-00034650 like but it's also the set the quality 9KZIcKpURjA-00137-00034651-00034885 there lies within that sense of 9KZIcKpURjA-00138-00034886-00035050 connection and we want to suggest 9KZIcKpURjA-00139-00035051-00035233 drawing on Jennifer Mason's work that 9KZIcKpURjA-00140-00035234-00035410 this is supposed to be a potent 9KZIcKpURjA-00141-00035411-00035557 connection there's some sort of charge 9KZIcKpURjA-00142-00035558-00035881 of potency within the connection between 9KZIcKpURjA-00143-00035882-00036172 the donor and and their recipient these 9KZIcKpURjA-00144-00036173-00036463 are quite described by Rachel in a new 9KZIcKpURjA-00145-00036464-00036649 we are both idea released donors were 9KZIcKpURjA-00146-00036650-00036802 quite typical within that study so 9KZIcKpURjA-00147-00036803-00036952 Rachel said the connection and I feel 9KZIcKpURjA-00148-00036953-00037079 the most is with the mother 9KZIcKpURjA-00149-00037080-00037373 I would love to meet her one day and in 9KZIcKpURjA-00150-00037374-00037580 all through her account the mother was 9KZIcKpURjA-00151-00037581-00037762 the sort of the person she spoke to it 9KZIcKpURjA-00152-00037763-00037883 wasn't very much about the child 9KZIcKpURjA-00153-00037884-00038018 actually it was about the mother and 9KZIcKpURjA-00154-00038019-00038204 Lois said it's not even about the child 9KZIcKpURjA-00155-00038205-00038408 I hope it's the parents I hope they are 9KZIcKpURjA-00156-00038409-00038665 us fulfilled as they hope to be and as 9KZIcKpURjA-00157-00038666-00038914 happy as they hope to be and so 9KZIcKpURjA-00158-00038915-00039104 interviews with both our identity 9KZIcKpURjA-00159-00039105-00039346 release donors and known donors shows a 9KZIcKpURjA-00160-00039347-00039554 real sense of a connection there was 9KZIcKpURjA-00161-00039555-00039782 deeply felt I should say at this point 9KZIcKpURjA-00162-00039783-00040090 that that wasn't that wasn't all donors 9KZIcKpURjA-00163-00040091-00040232 they felt this way but it was a 9KZIcKpURjA-00164-00040233-00040436 significant portion of the donors they 9KZIcKpURjA-00165-00040437-00040786 we spoke to in both of these groups said 9KZIcKpURjA-00166-00040787-00040958 I want to reject it so for you to get a 9KZIcKpURjA-00167-00040959-00041174 sense of what I'm talking about it I 9KZIcKpURjA-00168-00041175-00041455 want to read Stevens account and Stephen 9KZIcKpURjA-00169-00041456-00041849 was apologies to one out of two 9KZIcKpURjA-00170-00041850-00042098 anonymous donors that we included in the 9KZIcKpURjA-00171-00042099-00042340 study as so so to speak outlier donors 9KZIcKpURjA-00172-00042341-00042518 to get a sense of the difference between 9KZIcKpURjA-00173-00042519-00042749 the identity released donors that we now 9KZIcKpURjA-00174-00042750-00042995 see and the anonymous donors of the past 9KZIcKpURjA-00175-00042996-00043439 so Stephen donated in the 90s also and 9KZIcKpURjA-00176-00043440-00043765 he told us about coming into the clinic 9KZIcKpURjA-00177-00043766-00044008 and he said usually his appointments 9KZIcKpURjA-00178-00044009-00044143 would be scheduled early in the morning 9KZIcKpURjA-00179-00044144-00044351 so that he would not sort of happen upon 9KZIcKpURjA-00180-00044352-00044549 recipients so this was the kind of 9KZIcKpURjA-00181-00044550-00044768 clinic's way of managing them not 9KZIcKpURjA-00182-00044769-00045076 meeting each other but he said some I'll 9KZIcKpURjA-00183-00045077-00045245 read I'll read this to you I was a bit 9KZIcKpURjA-00184-00045246-00045424 late coming in so I was probably leaving 9KZIcKpURjA-00185-00045425-00045692 a 21st nine and a couple came out to the 9KZIcKpURjA-00186-00045693-00045917 waiting room in front of me a man and a 9KZIcKpURjA-00187-00045918-00046090 woman and like I said it's a very long 9KZIcKpURjA-00188-00046091-00046258 corridor there were swinging doors at 9KZIcKpURjA-00189-00046259-00046420 the end and I'm walking along behind 9KZIcKpURjA-00190-00046421-00046685 them about ten feet behind them they 9KZIcKpURjA-00191-00046686-00046895 know that I'm there the body language of 9KZIcKpURjA-00192-00046896-00047054 the tea people was interesting the woman 9KZIcKpURjA-00193-00047055-00047258 was very just full of joy it's the only 9KZIcKpURjA-00194-00047259-00047458 way to describe it she was just happy 9KZIcKpURjA-00195-00047459-00047699 and the guy was down and I thought okay 9KZIcKpURjA-00196-00047700-00047936 I know what's happened what's gone in 9KZIcKpURjA-00197-00047937-00048110 here they got the results and they said 9KZIcKpURjA-00198-00048111-00048224 the problem is you sir 9KZIcKpURjA-00199-00048225-00048386 and we haven't solution solution 9KZIcKpURjA-00200-00048387-00048629 donation and I'm a donor right behind 9KZIcKpURjA-00201-00048630-00048820 them walking along and he's feeling well 9KZIcKpURjA-00202-00048821-00049007 we're going to have a kid but it's not 9KZIcKpURjA-00203-00049008-00049217 going to be mine we get to the end of 9KZIcKpURjA-00204-00049218-00049387 the corridor and as you do you hold the 9KZIcKpURjA-00205-00049388-00049607 door when someone is behind you the 9KZIcKpURjA-00206-00049608-00049774 woman holds the door and she looks at me 9KZIcKpURjA-00207-00049775-00050048 and she looked right into my eyes and 9KZIcKpURjA-00208-00050049-00050192 there was this kind of look of absolute 9KZIcKpURjA-00209-00050193-00050408 unconditional love and it just 9KZIcKpURjA-00210-00050409-00050630 blew me away given I'm a complete 9KZIcKpURjA-00211-00050631-00050804 stranger because she's thinking this man 9KZIcKpURjA-00212-00050805-00051020 might be the father of my child that I 9KZIcKpURjA-00213-00051021-00051292 desperately want and it just went nearly 9KZIcKpURjA-00214-00051294-00051520 knocked me over I don't remember how I I 9KZIcKpURjA-00215-00051521-00051689 don't know how I reacted myself I can't 9KZIcKpURjA-00216-00051690-00051901 remember 9KZIcKpURjA-00217-00051902-00052252 so Stevens account was quite a common 9KZIcKpURjA-00218-00052253-00052550 one within within our in in terms of the 9KZIcKpURjA-00219-00052551-00052804 charge it was it was very common that 9KZIcKpURjA-00220-00052805-00052973 the donors would talk about this kind of 9KZIcKpURjA-00221-00052974-00053165 sense of a of a really sort of 9KZIcKpURjA-00222-00053166-00053315 heightened sense of connectedness with 9KZIcKpURjA-00223-00053316-00053641 their recipients and as Jennifer Mason 9KZIcKpURjA-00224-00053642-00053882 has written I would share Jennifer has 9KZIcKpURjA-00225-00053883-00054076 written affinities in her book from 2018 9KZIcKpURjA-00226-00054077-00054232 affinities are encounters where it's 9KZIcKpURjA-00227-00054233-00054442 possible to identify a spark or a charge 9KZIcKpURjA-00228-00054444-00054650 of connection that makes person a lot of 9KZIcKpURjA-00229-00054651-00054836 case smart a golden chance it or even 9KZIcKpURjA-00230-00054837-00055076 toxify them and we found that a lot of 9KZIcKpURjA-00231-00055077-00055267 the identity release their nation which 9KZIcKpURjA-00232-00055269-00055403 is what I'll be talking about here 9KZIcKpURjA-00233-00055404-00055559 specifically we're talking about because 9KZIcKpURjA-00234-00055560-00055757 we're talking about policy what's very 9KZIcKpURjA-00235-00055758-00056307 much lying within those those so we 9KZIcKpURjA-00236-00056308-00056530 threw the study and what we have found 9KZIcKpURjA-00237-00056532-00056791 we understand this relationship as one 9KZIcKpURjA-00238-00056792-00057137 of affinity both I do release donors and 9KZIcKpURjA-00239-00057138-00057304 name donor spoke of this sense of 9KZIcKpURjA-00240-00057305-00057494 connection with recipients it was it was 9KZIcKpURjA-00241-00057495-00057596 often seen to be something quite 9KZIcKpURjA-00242-00057597-00057841 ineffable sort of almost magic 9KZIcKpURjA-00243-00057842-00058073 mysterious they didn't exactly know what 9KZIcKpURjA-00244-00058074-00058254 it meant or what it was but something 9KZIcKpURjA-00245-00058255-00058579 inexplicable and inexplicable sense of 9KZIcKpURjA-00246-00058580-00058889 being connected in some way and it was 9KZIcKpURjA-00247-00058890-00059044 felt it was a connection that was failed 9KZIcKpURjA-00248-00059045-00059329 to carry force of meaning like a live 9KZIcKpURjA-00249-00059330-00059549 wire while excuse me like Jennifer 9KZIcKpURjA-00250-00059550-00059719 writes something that was full of charge 9KZIcKpURjA-00251-00059720-00060035 and energy and the Domus were not at all 9KZIcKpURjA-00252-00060036-00060296 naive about this connection they saw us 9KZIcKpURjA-00253-00060297-00060647 both alluring some some to the extent 9KZIcKpURjA-00254-00060648-00060826 that they would go from identity release 9KZIcKpURjA-00255-00060827-00061013 donors to becoming known donors because 9KZIcKpURjA-00256-00061014-00061157 they wanted to form a relationship 9KZIcKpURjA-00257-00061158-00061478 around that connection other sois as 9KZIcKpURjA-00258-00061479-00061709 deeply of Biscay that you know it could 9KZIcKpURjA-00259-00061710-00061823 be very positive but it could also 9KZIcKpURjA-00260-00061824-00062060 become probably must take or even 9KZIcKpURjA-00261-00062061-00062329 detrimental so they didn't approach this 9KZIcKpURjA-00262-00062330-00062789 in this sort of naive way I finish up I 9KZIcKpURjA-00263-00062790-00062915 want to give you just a couple of 9KZIcKpURjA-00264-00062916-00063169 examples of how this came out in the 9KZIcKpURjA-00265-00063170-00063404 interviews that we did so tests and page 9KZIcKpURjA-00266-00063404-00063659 were both ID release donors although 9KZIcKpURjA-00267-00063660-00063786 paid was someone who was 9KZIcKpURjA-00268-00063787-00064032 to move on to becoming a known donor and 9KZIcKpURjA-00269-00064033-00064314 even possibly take part in a surrogacy 9KZIcKpURjA-00270-00064315-00064599 arrangement and tested I just hadn't 9KZIcKpURjA-00271-00064600-00064797 appreciated just how egg donation plays 9KZIcKpURjA-00272-00064798-00065007 on people's emotions and how much it is 9KZIcKpURjA-00273-00065008-00065204 it's like gambling it's so addictive 9KZIcKpURjA-00274-00065205-00065400 like I felt part of that Russian 9KZIcKpURjA-00275-00065401-00065577 roulette table with a couple didn't know 9KZIcKpURjA-00276-00065578-00065667 who they were 9KZIcKpURjA-00277-00065668-00065934 similarly Paige said I think I kind of 9KZIcKpURjA-00278-00065935-00066117 greed for a woman so she found out they 9KZIcKpURjA-00279-00066118-00066330 hadn't worked I think I grieved for a 9KZIcKpURjA-00280-00066331-00066489 woman that I'd never met and it was a 9KZIcKpURjA-00281-00066490-00066690 very bizarre feeling you're crying for 9KZIcKpURjA-00282-00066691-00066870 somebody you're never going to meet I 9KZIcKpURjA-00283-00066871-00067053 don't know I don't know her name 9KZIcKpURjA-00284-00067054-00067398 I don't know what she looks like and the 9KZIcKpURjA-00285-00067399-00067704 final example was Rachel who who I 9KZIcKpURjA-00286-00067705-00067920 quoted also in the beginning of this 9KZIcKpURjA-00287-00067921-00068274 presentation and Rachel come to came to 9KZIcKpURjA-00288-00068275-00068442 egg sharing from a very sort of long 9KZIcKpURjA-00289-00068443-00068634 process of trying to conceive and have a 9KZIcKpURjA-00290-00068635-00068931 child of her own and throughout as I 9KZIcKpURjA-00291-00068932-00069165 said throughout her account she spoke a 9KZIcKpURjA-00292-00069166-00069423 lot about the recipient and about being 9KZIcKpURjA-00293-00069424-00069600 on a sort of shared journey with the 9KZIcKpURjA-00294-00069601-00069780 recipients because she was also coming 9KZIcKpURjA-00295-00069781-00069978 from an egg Sharron egg share his point 9KZIcKpURjA-00296-00069979-00070344 of view I should say that there were 9KZIcKpURjA-00297-00070345-00070497 certainly accounts among extremists 9KZIcKpURjA-00298-00070498-00070656 there were like this but I did release 9KZIcKpURjA-00299-00070657-00070836 donors who weren't egg share is also 9KZIcKpURjA-00300-00070837-00071055 spoke in this way about about their 9KZIcKpURjA-00301-00071056-00071382 recipients so she sent this quote I want 9KZIcKpURjA-00302-00071383-00071616 to eat you she said so she was someone 9KZIcKpURjA-00303-00071617-00071871 some some clinics in the UK will pass on 9KZIcKpURjA-00304-00071872-00072060 letters and little gifts from the 9KZIcKpURjA-00305-00072061-00072291 recipients to the donors as she was one 9KZIcKpURjA-00306-00072292-00072441 of them who had received something from 9KZIcKpURjA-00307-00072442-00072636 her donor she said the letter was just 9KZIcKpURjA-00308-00072637-00072840 wonderful if the house was on fire it's 9KZIcKpURjA-00309-00072841-00072999 something I would try and take because 9KZIcKpURjA-00310-00073000-00073176 it's something sorry it really gets me 9KZIcKpURjA-00311-00073177-00073314 and at this point she cries in the 9KZIcKpURjA-00312-00073315-00073557 interview so when my son is older they 9KZIcKpURjA-00313-00073558-00073704 would like to share with him and she 9KZIcKpURjA-00314-00073705-00073872 send me that necklace and they wore the 9KZIcKpURjA-00315-00073873-00074121 necklace when I had my son because I 9KZIcKpURjA-00316-00074122-00074349 just that's where I would like to meet 9KZIcKpURjA-00317-00074350-00074520 her more than the baby I just feel this 9KZIcKpURjA-00318-00074521-00074727 really strong I guess I feel like I have 9KZIcKpURjA-00319-00074728-00074973 an affinity to her in that way we have 9KZIcKpURjA-00320-00074974-00075177 an understanding perhaps of the journey 9KZIcKpURjA-00321-00075178-00075774 that we've been on so to conclude also 9KZIcKpURjA-00322-00075775-00075945 sort of offers some sort of conclusion 9KZIcKpURjA-00323-00075946-00076134 or so it sort of adds something to 9KZIcKpURjA-00324-00076135-00076455 debates around policy although not all 9KZIcKpURjA-00325-00076456-00076668 donors spoke in this way about their 9KZIcKpURjA-00326-00076669-00076887 recipients many of them did and many 9KZIcKpURjA-00327-00076888-00077070 many of the clinic donors that we spoke 9KZIcKpURjA-00328-00077071-00077148 to it 9KZIcKpURjA-00329-00077149-00077426 and we think Jennifer mazes framework 9KZIcKpURjA-00330-00077427-00077594 around affinity it's really quite useful 9KZIcKpURjA-00331-00077595-00077811 here to understand not just that there 9KZIcKpURjA-00332-00077812-00078006 is a sense of connection but just as she 9KZIcKpURjA-00333-00078007-00078251 approaches II and charged that it's felt 9KZIcKpURjA-00334-00078252-00078690 often to lie within that connection its 9KZIcKpURjA-00335-00078691-00078906 present in both the interviews that we 9KZIcKpURjA-00336-00078907-00079029 do we know in time then we have done 9KZIcKpURjA-00337-00079030-00079185 with known donors and identity release 9KZIcKpURjA-00338-00079186-00079386 famous but of course our identity 9KZIcKpURjA-00339-00079387-00079601 release donors have no way of ever 9KZIcKpURjA-00340-00079602-00079941 tracing their recipients as occurrences 9KZIcKpURjA-00341-00079942-00080232 that as the policy is kind of just up so 9KZIcKpURjA-00342-00080233-00080388 I think we want to ask the question 9KZIcKpURjA-00343-00080389-00080592 should the option then be there for 9KZIcKpURjA-00344-00080593-00080748 donors and recipients to trace one 9KZIcKpURjA-00345-00080749-00081012 another and Canada could that be written 9KZIcKpURjA-00346-00081013-00081336 into policy in some shape or form thank 9KZIcKpURjA-00347-00081337-00081476 you so I'll stop there 9KZIcKpURjA-00348-00081477-00081926 thank you David can you can I just say 9KZIcKpURjA-00349-00081927-00082209 as you as you hand over I just wanted to 9KZIcKpURjA-00350-00082210-00082449 remind people that we're in the panel 9KZIcKpURjA-00351-00082450-00082632 discussion now each person is having 9KZIcKpURjA-00352-00082633-00082887 about ten minutes to talk and then there 9KZIcKpURjA-00353-00082888-00083073 will be time at the end for Q&A and 9KZIcKpURjA-00354-00083074-00083229 we're thinking about how well does 9KZIcKpURjA-00355-00083230-00083469 current donor conception law and policy 9KZIcKpURjA-00356-00083470-00083732 fit donors needs and perspectives so 9KZIcKpURjA-00357-00083733-00083874 sorry to interrupt I think we're handing 9KZIcKpURjA-00358-00083875-00084063 over to Natalie Natalie gamble 9KZIcKpURjA-00359-00084064-00084411 now if are you here Natalie I am can you 9KZIcKpURjA-00360-00084412-00084768 hear me okay yes fantastic well thank 9KZIcKpURjA-00361-00084769-00084932 you so much for inviting me to be part 9KZIcKpURjA-00362-00084933-00085155 of this it's been absolutely fascinating 9KZIcKpURjA-00363-00085156-00085461 to hear about this research and and it's 9KZIcKpURjA-00364-00085462-00085613 a topic that's kind of very very close 9KZIcKpURjA-00365-00085614-00085791 to my heart I have a number of different 9KZIcKpURjA-00366-00085792-00085986 hats so just to give you a bit of 9KZIcKpURjA-00367-00085987-00086156 context in front of how I come at this 9KZIcKpURjA-00368-00086157-00086403 subject and firstly I'm a lawyer who 9KZIcKpURjA-00369-00086404-00086606 works at nga law and we do a lot of work 9KZIcKpURjA-00370-00086607-00086778 with families and donors we're 9KZIcKpURjA-00371-00086779-00086979 conceiving together sometimes before 9KZIcKpURjA-00372-00086980-00087171 conception but sometimes when issues and 9KZIcKpURjA-00373-00087172-00087354 difficulties arise further along the 9KZIcKpURjA-00374-00087355-00087648 journey with known donors as well I'm 9KZIcKpURjA-00375-00087649-00087806 also one of the cofounders of brilliant 9KZIcKpURjA-00376-00087807-00087903 beginnings which is a non profit 9KZIcKpURjA-00377-00087904-00088185 surrogacy agency and we do a lot of work 9KZIcKpURjA-00378-00088186-00088353 with people around these connections and 9KZIcKpURjA-00379-00088354-00088494 kind of promoting long lasting 9KZIcKpURjA-00380-00088495-00088706 relationships between surrogates and and 9KZIcKpURjA-00381-00088707-00088965 parents and I also have a personal 9KZIcKpURjA-00382-00088966-00089126 interest in this as well so I have two 9KZIcKpURjA-00383-00089127-00089292 children who were conceived through 9KZIcKpURjA-00384-00089293-00089547 donation and having conceived them in 9KZIcKpURjA-00385-00089548-00089744 that way I then went on to become an egg 9KZIcKpURjA-00386-00089745-00089906 donor as well and both the donor 9KZIcKpURjA-00387-00089907-00090138 recipient and donor as well as having 9KZIcKpURjA-00388-00090139-00090534 professional interest in this area so um 9KZIcKpURjA-00389-00090535-00090672 and looking at this question about law 9KZIcKpURjA-00390-00090673-00090858 and policy and how well it fits the 9KZIcKpURjA-00391-00090859-00091086 needs of donors and I think it's quite 9KZIcKpURjA-00392-00091087-00091239 helpful to kind of almost go back to the 9KZIcKpURjA-00393-00091240-00091425 beginning and look at where the the law 9KZIcKpURjA-00394-00091426-00091596 and policy came from and I think the 9KZIcKpURjA-00395-00091597-00091845 focus you know all the way back in 1990 9KZIcKpURjA-00396-00091846-00091983 and before then when the law was being 9KZIcKpURjA-00397-00091984-00092196 formed was very much about creating 9KZIcKpURjA-00398-00092197-00092532 clarity and certainty people wanted to 9KZIcKpURjA-00399-00092533-00092739 kind of put up walls between parents and 9KZIcKpURjA-00400-00092740-00092922 donors too you know there was anonymity 9KZIcKpURjA-00401-00092923-00093162 you know there was very clear boxes kind 9KZIcKpURjA-00402-00093163-00093369 of on one side of the other of who you 9KZIcKpURjA-00403-00093370-00093594 were and it was very kind of clear about 9KZIcKpURjA-00404-00093595-00093756 who were the parents and he learned the 9KZIcKpURjA-00405-00093757-00093957 parents and so the idea was keep 9KZIcKpURjA-00406-00093958-00094110 everybody separate and to a large extent 9KZIcKpURjA-00407-00094111-00094431 keep it secret as well and that is I 9KZIcKpURjA-00408-00094432-00094665 suppose very clean very easy for clinics 9KZIcKpURjA-00409-00094666-00094839 that are involved and conceptually it's 9KZIcKpURjA-00410-00094840-00095151 very simple and and it kind of has this 9KZIcKpURjA-00411-00095152-00095340 this idea that donation is something 9KZIcKpURjA-00412-00095341-00095451 that you can do and then forget about 9KZIcKpURjA-00413-00095452-00095634 everybody kind of moves on from it it's 9KZIcKpURjA-00414-00095635-00095754 something that's happened in the past 9KZIcKpURjA-00415-00095755-00096054 but I think over the decades we've 9KZIcKpURjA-00416-00096055-00096258 learned that donation is not that simple 9KZIcKpURjA-00417-00096259-00096492 at all for anybody that's involved it 9KZIcKpURjA-00418-00096493-00096861 does create lasting connections and the 9KZIcKpURjA-00419-00096862-00097002 law and policy has moved on 9KZIcKpURjA-00420-00097003-00097236 significantly in recognizing that but I 9KZIcKpURjA-00421-00097237-00097389 think it's not quite at the end of its 9KZIcKpURjA-00422-00097390-00097632 journey and getting there and so we've 9KZIcKpURjA-00423-00097633-00097818 obviously had a significant movement in 9KZIcKpURjA-00424-00097819-00097980 terms of the rights that donor conceived 9KZIcKpURjA-00425-00097981-00098301 people to you access information and I 9KZIcKpURjA-00426-00098302-00098460 think it's absolutely right that the law 9KZIcKpURjA-00427-00098461-00098705 has kind of focused on on their needs 9KZIcKpURjA-00428-00098706-00099033 but I do think that you know that there 9KZIcKpURjA-00429-00099034-00099279 is a question around whether you know as 9KZIcKpURjA-00430-00099280-00099432 Petra was just saying the law has moved 9KZIcKpURjA-00431-00099433-00099639 on enough to recognize the needs and 9KZIcKpURjA-00432-00099640-00099822 desires of the adults involved as well 9KZIcKpURjA-00433-00099823-00100065 in kind of managing those continuing 9KZIcKpURjA-00434-00100066-00100395 connections so I think the world in 9KZIcKpURjA-00435-00100396-00100599 general has become much less focused on 9KZIcKpURjA-00436-00100600-00100866 privacy and it's become more accepting 9KZIcKpURjA-00437-00100867-00101016 of non-traditional families of 9KZIcKpURjA-00438-00101017-00101220 non-biological parents of people having 9KZIcKpURjA-00439-00101221-00101385 kind of different roles and more kind of 9KZIcKpURjA-00440-00101386-00101667 diverse family structures and that has 9KZIcKpURjA-00441-00101668-00101844 led to a much wider kind of changing 9KZIcKpURjA-00442-00101845-00102123 culture around a nation and I think that 9KZIcKpURjA-00443-00102124-00102300 both parents and donors want to have 9KZIcKpURjA-00444-00102301-00102483 more openness as well and that the law 9KZIcKpURjA-00445-00102483-00102624 perhaps haven't quite caught up with 9KZIcKpURjA-00446-00102625-00102860 that and certainly from a parent's 9KZIcKpURjA-00447-00102861-00103065 perspective we do see that there's kind 9KZIcKpURjA-00448-00103066-00103230 of an appetite to access more 9KZIcKpURjA-00449-00103231-00103409 information so we work with quite a lot 9KZIcKpURjA-00450-00103410-00103610 of parents who are going overseas to 9KZIcKpURjA-00451-00103611-00103899 places like the US for surrogacy 9KZIcKpURjA-00452-00103900-00104006 and in the u.s. often if they're 9KZIcKpURjA-00453-00104007-00104151 conceiving with an egg donor as well 9KZIcKpURjA-00454-00104152-00104318 they have a choice over the kind of egg 9KZIcKpURjA-00455-00104319-00104472 donor that they conceive with whether 9KZIcKpURjA-00456-00104473-00104633 it's anonymous whether its identity 9KZIcKpURjA-00457-00104634-00104796 release or whether it's completely known 9KZIcKpURjA-00458-00104797-00105057 and a lot of parents choose to have a 9KZIcKpURjA-00459-00105058-00105236 lot more information than they would be 9KZIcKpURjA-00460-00105238-00105420 able to get through a clinic donation in 9KZIcKpURjA-00461-00105421-00105783 UK and we also see the appetite for 9KZIcKpURjA-00462-00105783-00105954 parents wanting more information through 9KZIcKpURjA-00463-00105955-00106173 the numbers of recipients particularly 9KZIcKpURjA-00464-00106174-00106344 single women and same-sex parents who 9KZIcKpURjA-00465-00106345-00106575 are conceiving with known donors outside 9KZIcKpURjA-00466-00106576-00106794 the regulated system so by donor 9KZIcKpURjA-00467-00106795-00107031 matching websites and forums and so on 9KZIcKpURjA-00468-00107032-00107258 and a lot of that is driven by this 9KZIcKpURjA-00469-00107259-00107514 desire to kind of know more about the 9KZIcKpURjA-00470-00107515-00107730 donor from the outset and that there 9KZIcKpURjA-00471-00107731-00107861 isn't this mystery that's going to be 9KZIcKpURjA-00472-00107863-00108099 disclosed once the child is 18 but the 9KZIcKpURjA-00473-00108100-00108303 the regulated system in the UK feels 9KZIcKpURjA-00474-00108304-00108498 very one-size-fits-all that there's a 9KZIcKpURjA-00475-00108499-00108648 very kind of prescriptive approach to 9KZIcKpURjA-00476-00108649-00108816 how much information is provided and 9KZIcKpURjA-00477-00108817-00109065 when and so in terms of the perspective 9KZIcKpURjA-00478-00109066-00109259 of donors I think a lot of presumptions 9KZIcKpURjA-00479-00109260-00109484 are made about what donors want so I 9KZIcKpURjA-00480-00109485-00109620 think it's a fantastic that this 9KZIcKpURjA-00481-00109621-00109845 research is being done in order to to 9KZIcKpURjA-00482-00109846-00110103 give them a voice - and I think all 9KZIcKpURjA-00483-00110104-00110352 policy is better when it's based on the 9KZIcKpURjA-00484-00110353-00110529 empirical evidence of you know what's 9KZIcKpURjA-00485-00110530-00110802 really happening and I I don't think 9KZIcKpURjA-00486-00110803-00111033 that donors do all just want to make a 9KZIcKpURjA-00487-00111033-00111180 donation and then forget about it 9KZIcKpURjA-00488-00111181-00111351 without strings attached and that's 9KZIcKpURjA-00489-00111352-00111516 certainly what the research seems to 9KZIcKpURjA-00490-00111517-00111783 have shown and I think that there is 9KZIcKpURjA-00491-00111783-00111954 this kind of perspective of donors 9KZIcKpURjA-00492-00111955-00112182 having much more of a vested interest in 9KZIcKpURjA-00493-00112183-00112458 what's happening so just I mean in terms 9KZIcKpURjA-00494-00112458-00112626 of my own experience of having being a 9KZIcKpURjA-00495-00112627-00112784 day you know I think I went on a bit of 9KZIcKpURjA-00496-00112785-00112961 a journey emotionally and I wonder if 9KZIcKpURjA-00497-00112963-00113177 this is common to other donors as well I 9KZIcKpURjA-00498-00113178-00113442 mean initially when I donated I did it 9KZIcKpURjA-00499-00113443-00113631 because I'd had my own family through 9KZIcKpURjA-00500-00113632-00113814 donation and it kind of felt like the 9KZIcKpURjA-00501-00113815-00113997 right thing to do that I ought to kind 9KZIcKpURjA-00502-00113998-00114141 of give back to the system that had 9KZIcKpURjA-00503-00114142-00114444 helped me have a family and but as I got 9KZIcKpURjA-00504-00114445-00114621 into it it didn't feel so much like a 9KZIcKpURjA-00505-00114622-00114798 thing to do that was selfless and then I 9KZIcKpURjA-00506-00114799-00115032 put behind me I felt much more of a 9KZIcKpURjA-00507-00115033-00115248 connection with the recipients who I had 9KZIcKpURjA-00508-00115249-00115503 not met I don't know who they were but 9KZIcKpURjA-00509-00115504-00115665 once they were a real family with a real 9KZIcKpURjA-00510-00115666-00115880 child it kind of took on a new meaning 9KZIcKpURjA-00511-00115881-00116130 and I think this this phrase of curious 9KZIcKpURjA-00512-00116131-00116364 connections is is very apt I think I'm 9KZIcKpURjA-00513-00116365-00116514 very clear that I don't feel like a 9KZIcKpURjA-00514-00116515-00116741 parent and but I don't feel like a 9KZIcKpURjA-00515-00116742-00116958 stranger either and I do feel connected 9KZIcKpURjA-00516-00116958-00117165 with both the recipients and the child's 9KZIcKpURjA-00517-00117166-00117240 that they have 9KZIcKpURjA-00518-00117241-00117493 and so I'm interested in the future I'm 9KZIcKpURjA-00519-00117494-00117663 interested in what may happen and not 9KZIcKpURjA-00520-00117664-00117879 just for myself but for my own children 9KZIcKpURjA-00521-00117880-00118144 as well and you know maybe it will just 9KZIcKpURjA-00522-00118145-00118381 be a curiosity if they reach out you 9KZIcKpURjA-00523-00118382-00118533 know maybe it'll grow into a more 9KZIcKpURjA-00524-00118534-00118783 meaningful relationship but I do hope 9KZIcKpURjA-00525-00118783-00119097 that we we have that opportunity and so 9KZIcKpURjA-00526-00119098-00119238 in terms of the law and policy and 9KZIcKpURjA-00527-00119239-00119422 whether it fits down as well I think 9KZIcKpURjA-00528-00119423-00119616 there are three things that I would say 9KZIcKpURjA-00529-00119617-00119727 where I think we could think about 9KZIcKpURjA-00530-00119728-00119853 looking at things with more 9KZIcKpURjA-00531-00119854-00120135 sophistication and so firstly I think 9KZIcKpURjA-00532-00120136-00120421 recognizing that donors as well have a 9KZIcKpURjA-00533-00120422-00120666 legitimate interest in promoting 9KZIcKpURjA-00534-00120667-00120885 openness about donor conception and 9KZIcKpURjA-00535-00120886-00121045 encouraging parents to tell their 9KZIcKpURjA-00536-00121046-00121188 children that they were doing conceived 9KZIcKpURjA-00537-00121189-00121546 so I certainly feel that you know if the 9KZIcKpURjA-00538-00121547-00121698 child who was conceived as a result of 9KZIcKpURjA-00539-00121699-00121870 my donation wants to come looking for me 9KZIcKpURjA-00540-00121871-00122052 I want them to do that from a place of 9KZIcKpURjA-00541-00122053-00122334 curiosity and interest I don't want them 9KZIcKpURjA-00542-00122335-00122533 to do that from a place of hurt and loss 9KZIcKpURjA-00543-00122533-00122845 and a late discovery and I know you know 9KZIcKpURjA-00544-00122846-00122983 we're much better about educating 9KZIcKpURjA-00545-00122983-00123186 parents about the importance of telling 9KZIcKpURjA-00546-00123187-00123343 children that they'd only conceive these 9KZIcKpURjA-00547-00123344-00123498 days but I think acknowledging that that 9KZIcKpURjA-00548-00123499-00123798 donors have a an interest in that too so 9KZIcKpURjA-00549-00123799-00123963 that they're involved in you know that 9KZIcKpURjA-00550-00123964-00124065 the donation that they've done very 9KZIcKpURjA-00551-00124066-00124209 positively has been a positive 9KZIcKpURjA-00552-00124210-00124422 experience for the child as well is very 9KZIcKpURjA-00553-00124423-00124713 important and secondly I think there 9KZIcKpURjA-00554-00124714-00124872 should be more inclusion and recognition 9KZIcKpURjA-00555-00124873-00125136 of the rights of donors children and you 9KZIcKpURjA-00556-00125137-00125308 know as Petra was just talking about I 9KZIcKpURjA-00557-00125308-00125478 don't think there's any reason where 9KZIcKpURjA-00558-00125479-00125652 everybody can sense why they can't be 9KZIcKpURjA-00559-00125653-00125845 mechanisms for people to make contact 9KZIcKpURjA-00560-00125846-00126022 with each other if they want to using 9KZIcKpURjA-00561-00126023-00126312 the HFA register at the moment donors 9KZIcKpURjA-00562-00126313-00126498 own children are excluded from those 9KZIcKpURjA-00563-00126499-00126708 mechanisms but I don't really see any 9KZIcKpURjA-00564-00126709-00126873 reason why they couldn't be included as 9KZIcKpURjA-00565-00126874-00127197 well and finally I think law and policy 9KZIcKpURjA-00566-00127198-00127410 could be more flexible in accommodating 9KZIcKpURjA-00567-00127411-00127594 different choices in the way that 9KZIcKpURjA-00568-00127595-00127843 information is shared about donor 9KZIcKpURjA-00569-00127844-00127998 conception between recipients and donors 9KZIcKpURjA-00570-00127999-00128337 and both before conception and while the 9KZIcKpURjA-00571-00128338-00128661 child is young before they're 18 so 9KZIcKpURjA-00572-00128662-00128802 certainly from my perspective I would 9KZIcKpURjA-00573-00128803-00128991 have been very happy for the recipients 9KZIcKpURjA-00574-00128992-00129118 that I donated to to have more 9KZIcKpURjA-00575-00129119-00129366 information about me if their child 9KZIcKpURjA-00576-00129367-00129537 wanted to contact me before they were 18 9KZIcKpURjA-00577-00129538-00129718 I would be very happy for them to do 9KZIcKpURjA-00578-00129719-00129931 that so it would be nice to have that 9KZIcKpURjA-00579-00129932-00130128 kind of flexibility to know that those 9KZIcKpURjA-00580-00130129-00130396 were possibilities and I think you know 9KZIcKpURjA-00581-00130397-00130584 some donors will be very happy today 9KZIcKpURjA-00582-00130585-00130828 on a very open known entirely known 9KZIcKpURjA-00583-00130829-00131086 basis and at the moment that's something 9KZIcKpURjA-00584-00131087-00131290 that unless it's a sister or a friend or 9KZIcKpURjA-00585-00131291-00131470 you know someone that does it or you do 9KZIcKpURjA-00586-00131471-00131746 it by retain a matching website it isn't 9KZIcKpURjA-00587-00131747-00131896 accommodated very well within the 9KZIcKpURjA-00588-00131897-00132141 regulated system of clinics in the UK 9KZIcKpURjA-00589-00132142-00132403 and one of the worries I guess about 9KZIcKpURjA-00590-00132404-00132649 doing things in an entirely open way is 9KZIcKpURjA-00591-00132650-00132886 that it could lead to messiness it could 9KZIcKpURjA-00592-00132887-00133104 lead to disputes and kind of donors 9KZIcKpURjA-00593-00133105-00133303 overreaching there their role if you 9KZIcKpURjA-00594-00133304-00133540 like and just to kind of play the other 9KZIcKpURjA-00595-00133541-00133714 side of this I guess you know that is 9KZIcKpURjA-00596-00133715-00133894 something that we've seen in a legal 9KZIcKpURjA-00597-00133895-00134050 capacity so we have dealt with a number 9KZIcKpURjA-00598-00134051-00134316 of cases where and donors typically to 9KZIcKpURjA-00599-00134317-00134545 single women and same-sex couples have 9KZIcKpURjA-00600-00134546-00134701 wanted to play more of a role in the 9KZIcKpURjA-00601-00134702-00134950 child's life than the parents have felt 9KZIcKpURjA-00602-00134951-00135109 comfortable with and that has led to 9KZIcKpURjA-00603-00135110-00135244 disputes that have been heard in the 9KZIcKpURjA-00604-00135245-00135516 Family Court but I think many of those 9KZIcKpURjA-00605-00135517-00135661 cases I mean I would say the 9KZIcKpURjA-00606-00135662-00135913 overwhelming majority are avoidable 9KZIcKpURjA-00607-00135914-00136102 cases that they come from a place where 9KZIcKpURjA-00608-00136103-00136288 there isn't a clear enough discussion at 9KZIcKpURjA-00609-00136289-00136432 the outset about what everyone's 9KZIcKpURjA-00610-00136433-00136714 expectations are and sometimes as well I 9KZIcKpURjA-00611-00136715-00136921 think that it could be a very difficult 9KZIcKpURjA-00612-00136922-00137239 world for single men and for gay men who 9KZIcKpURjA-00613-00137240-00137413 want to become parents and have limited 9KZIcKpURjA-00614-00137414-00137776 options and so some men kind of opt for 9KZIcKpURjA-00615-00137777-00137971 donation in an on an own basis of the 9KZIcKpURjA-00616-00137972-00138145 kind of compromise of becoming a parent 9KZIcKpURjA-00617-00138146-00138268 when actually really they should be 9KZIcKpURjA-00618-00138269-00138511 looking at Dakshin and surrogacy if they 9KZIcKpURjA-00619-00138512-00138721 want to have a family of their own so I 9KZIcKpURjA-00620-00138722-00138883 think providing the right support at the 9KZIcKpURjA-00621-00138884-00139150 right time to enable people to explore 9KZIcKpURjA-00622-00139151-00139300 all these issues and think through what 9KZIcKpURjA-00623-00139301-00139515 they want is very important if we do 9KZIcKpURjA-00624-00139516-00139732 start to kind of encourage more known to 9KZIcKpURjA-00625-00139733-00139945 bation but I think the flipside is that 9KZIcKpURjA-00626-00139946-00140110 there are real benefits to and I think 9KZIcKpURjA-00627-00140111-00140332 where relationships remain easy and 9KZIcKpURjA-00628-00140333-00140587 things work well it can be wonderful for 9KZIcKpURjA-00629-00140588-00140740 everybody involved including the child 9KZIcKpURjA-00630-00140741-00140926 but there is this kind of continuity of 9KZIcKpURjA-00631-00140927-00141175 information rather than you know a lack 9KZIcKpURjA-00632-00141176-00141322 of information that is suddenly then 9KZIcKpURjA-00633-00141323-00141631 disclosed at a later date so ultimately 9KZIcKpURjA-00634-00141632-00141862 I think that donation is complex I think 9KZIcKpURjA-00635-00141863-00142029 the experience is diverse and this is 9KZIcKpURjA-00636-00142030-00142240 hugely personal I think we should 9KZIcKpURjA-00637-00142241-00142462 continue to evolve law and policy in 9KZIcKpURjA-00638-00142463-00142740 line with the evidence of how people are 9KZIcKpURjA-00639-00142741-00142957 experiencing these connections and 9KZIcKpURjA-00640-00142958-00143113 ultimately you know this isn't a 9KZIcKpURjA-00641-00143114-00143325 cut-and-dried one-size-fits-all 9KZIcKpURjA-00642-00143326-00143629 experience and so I think you know the 9KZIcKpURjA-00643-00143630-00143785 law should manage and acknowledge those 9KZIcKpURjA-00644-00143786-00143926 continuing connections 9KZIcKpURjA-00645-00143927-00144337 better for everybody thank you Thank You 9KZIcKpURjA-00646-00144338-00144544 Natalie that's such a useful and 9KZIcKpURjA-00647-00144545-00144727 sensitive set of observations and 9KZIcKpURjA-00648-00144728-00145045 suggestions I think we now move on to 9KZIcKpURjA-00649-00145046-00145405 Lee Bayless Lee are you here I am Here I 9KZIcKpURjA-00650-00145406-00145609 am here thank you welcome so you have 9KZIcKpURjA-00651-00145610-00145681 ten minutes 9KZIcKpURjA-00652-00145682-00145969 okay and it's important to people to 9KZIcKpURjA-00653-00145970-00146206 know who they are and why do people know 9KZIcKpURjA-00654-00146207-00146383 I had a whole bunch of quotes but I 9KZIcKpURjA-00655-00146384-00146512 think you've delivered some better 9KZIcKpURjA-00656-00146513-00146686 quotes in this session already a couple 9KZIcKpURjA-00657-00146687-00146863 of brief quotes there's a half of me I 9KZIcKpURjA-00658-00146864-00147106 know nothing about it shook my sense of 9KZIcKpURjA-00659-00147107-00147337 identity my entire existence is a lie 9KZIcKpURjA-00660-00147338-00147505 and then of course you've got a more 9KZIcKpURjA-00661-00147506-00147658 modern angle which is the perception 9KZIcKpURjA-00662-00147659-00147844 that if you tell me my genes I'll 9KZIcKpURjA-00663-00147845-00147967 somehow Know Who I am 9KZIcKpURjA-00664-00147968-00148270 this engulfing obsession that is taking 9KZIcKpURjA-00665-00148271-00148606 hold of people and after reading these 9KZIcKpURjA-00666-00148607-00148768 statements I think there's definitely an 9KZIcKpURjA-00667-00148769-00148954 argument that's accepted already that 9KZIcKpURjA-00668-00148955-00149098 it's important to people to know who 9KZIcKpURjA-00669-00149099-00149263 they are but the nature of the 9KZIcKpURjA-00670-00149264-00149407 technology and the current legislation 9KZIcKpURjA-00671-00149408-00149737 doesn't always satisfy that need so what 9KZIcKpURjA-00672-00149738-00150055 do we do we change things IVF is all 9KZIcKpURjA-00673-00150056-00150313 relatively new stuff after all so it's 9KZIcKpURjA-00674-00150314-00150502 understandable that we might not have 9KZIcKpURjA-00675-00150503-00150760 got a law right coming up the gate in 9KZIcKpURjA-00676-00150761-00150898 terms of changing things an earlier 9KZIcKpURjA-00677-00150899-00151102 change and was one that doehner 9KZIcKpURjA-00678-00151103-00151315 conceived people confine their siblings 9KZIcKpURjA-00679-00151316-00151486 there's something called donor link 9KZIcKpURjA-00680-00151487-00151672 which is a service for those conceived 9KZIcKpURjA-00681-00151673-00151969 post 1991 so we've clearly been keeping 9KZIcKpURjA-00682-00151970-00152101 some cool sort of anonymous donor 9KZIcKpURjA-00683-00152102-00152407 identifiers number even before keeping 9KZIcKpURjA-00684-00152408-00152605 the more recent identifying donor 9KZIcKpURjA-00685-00152606-00152893 records in my bio for today it mentions 9KZIcKpURjA-00686-00152894-00153019 that I did a show at the Edinburgh 9KZIcKpURjA-00687-00153020-00153139 Fringe which I'll come on to a little 9KZIcKpURjA-00688-00153140-00153355 bit more later but when I was prepping 9KZIcKpURjA-00689-00153356-00153538 for this last year I discovered donor 9KZIcKpURjA-00690-00153539-00153757 link I've had thirteen successful link 9KZIcKpURjA-00691-00153758-00154051 ups so I was prepping last year it could 9KZIcKpURjA-00692-00154052-00154338 be more now and this is since 2010 9KZIcKpURjA-00693-00154339-00154591 obviously in order to use donor link you 9KZIcKpURjA-00694-00154592-00154726 must already know you are donor 9KZIcKpURjA-00695-00154727-00154936 conceived and then you must also 9KZIcKpURjA-00696-00154937-00155182 register with them I think Donna link is 9KZIcKpURjA-00697-00155183-00155368 an exciting idea and they are rightly 9KZIcKpURjA-00698-00155369-00155649 proud of what their service Eve 9KZIcKpURjA-00699-00155650-00155953 crunching the numbers though and if it's 9KZIcKpURjA-00700-00155954-00156097 open to everyone who's done a conceive 9KZIcKpURjA-00701-00156098-00156217 since 1991 9KZIcKpURjA-00702-00156218-00156487 the HFA web suggests that there's about 9KZIcKpURjA-00703-00156488-00156832 2,000 donor births per year so 39 cups 9KZIcKpURjA-00704-00156833-00157087 means 26 siblings have been matched out 9KZIcKpURjA-00705-00157088-00157306 of a potential 58,000 9KZIcKpURjA-00706-00157307-00157579 that's like point zero four percent so I 9KZIcKpURjA-00707-00157580-00157786 really hope more people will find out 9KZIcKpURjA-00708-00157787-00157960 about and use this service maybe even 9KZIcKpURjA-00709-00157961-00158242 through hearing about it today but we 9KZIcKpURjA-00710-00158243-00158473 change things we change our thinking I 9KZIcKpURjA-00711-00158474-00158692 said in order to use donor link you must 9KZIcKpURjA-00712-00158693-00158920 know your donor conceived but originally 9KZIcKpURjA-00713-00158921-00159121 it was left up to the recipient parents 9KZIcKpURjA-00714-00159122-00159304 to decide whether or not to say anything 9KZIcKpURjA-00715-00159305-00159577 to the child now although it's still not 9KZIcKpURjA-00716-00159578-00159790 mandatory it's better practice and 9KZIcKpURjA-00717-00159791-00159961 parent to strongly encourage to tell 9KZIcKpURjA-00718-00159962-00160120 children from the start that they are 9KZIcKpURjA-00719-00160121-00160270 donor conceived so that's that's a 9KZIcKpURjA-00720-00160271-00160467 change in thinking that's come across 9KZIcKpURjA-00721-00160468-00160804 why do they do this well apart from some 9KZIcKpURjA-00722-00160805-00160879 of the quotes that I had at the 9KZIcKpURjA-00723-00160880-00161083 beginning people have quite traumatic 9KZIcKpURjA-00724-00161084-00161284 reactions as I say it's important to 9KZIcKpURjA-00725-00161285-00161713 people to know they are one question 9KZIcKpURjA-00726-00161714-00161881 then that we asked our audience in our 9KZIcKpURjA-00727-00161882-00162157 show was should it be mandatory to tell 9KZIcKpURjA-00728-00162158-00162310 your children they are donor conceived 9KZIcKpURjA-00729-00162311-00162538 and for now I'll let you all think on 9KZIcKpURjA-00730-00162539-00162913 that point we change things we change 9KZIcKpURjA-00731-00162914-00163075 the law fifteen years ago as you've 9KZIcKpURjA-00732-00163076-00163279 heard now eighteen donor can see if 9KZIcKpURjA-00733-00163280-00163411 people can find out more about their 9KZIcKpURjA-00734-00163412-00163612 donors and even contact them we don't 9KZIcKpURjA-00735-00163613-00163804 yet know the full fallout from this 9KZIcKpURjA-00736-00163805-00164008 change nobody has actually reached 18 9KZIcKpURjA-00737-00164009-00164416 yet who was subject to this law but one 9KZIcKpURjA-00738-00164417-00164659 consequence that we do know is that very 9KZIcKpURjA-00739-00164660-00164884 few people now in the UK donate anymore 9KZIcKpURjA-00740-00164885-00165088 now that they can be contacted and I 9KZIcKpURjA-00741-00165089-00165202 don't know whether this is just 9KZIcKpURjA-00742-00165203-00165391 something I think from watching sitcoms 9KZIcKpURjA-00743-00165392-00165607 but perhaps this speaks more to the 9KZIcKpURjA-00744-00165608-00165769 culture surrounding donation that 9KZIcKpURjA-00745-00165770-00166036 existed pre 1995 than it does about 9KZIcKpURjA-00746-00166037-00166375 anything else instead part of these 9KZIcKpURjA-00747-00166376-00166618 consequences we in the UK we get most of 9KZIcKpURjA-00748-00166619-00166876 our material from Denmark and this has 9KZIcKpURjA-00749-00166877-00167059 knock-on consequences of its own a 9KZIcKpURjA-00750-00167060-00167320 popular one in the media that if you 9KZIcKpURjA-00751-00167321-00167497 search the right kinds of things is that 9KZIcKpURjA-00752-00167498-00167749 and there are no donor conceptions of 9KZIcKpURjA-00753-00167750-00167977 ginger-haired children now because in 9KZIcKpURjA-00754-00167978-00168150 Denmark they used to accept donations 9KZIcKpURjA-00755-00168151-00168439 but when people were choosing whose 9KZIcKpURjA-00756-00168440-00168673 material to use it turned out according 9KZIcKpURjA-00757-00168674-00168880 to the Danes there was no demand at all 9KZIcKpURjA-00758-00168881-00169207 for ginger donors another consequence 9KZIcKpURjA-00759-00169208-00169402 according to The Huffington Post is that 9KZIcKpURjA-00760-00169403-00169705 brexit implies a change to our import 9KZIcKpURjA-00761-00169706-00169978 ability and you can look at the article 9KZIcKpURjA-00762-00169979-00170149 that they're cutting headline is a 9KZIcKpURjA-00763-00170150-00170344 shortage of sperm donors the brexit 9KZIcKpURjA-00764-00170345-00170528 dilemma we didn't see coming 9KZIcKpURjA-00765-00170529-00170765 so this leaves us running UK campaigns 9KZIcKpURjA-00766-00170766-00171029 to get people to donate which there are 9KZIcKpURjA-00767-00171030-00171143 people who look at this kind of thing 9KZIcKpURjA-00768-00171144-00171425 ideas from seed have included posting 9KZIcKpURjA-00769-00171426-00171614 adverts at football matches etc which 9KZIcKpURjA-00770-00171615-00171845 I'm not so sure about I think news may 9KZIcKpURjA-00771-00171846-00172160 fall foul of the pre 1995 donations 9KZIcKpURjA-00772-00172161-00172472 stigma I mentioned earlier anyway yes we 9KZIcKpURjA-00773-00172473-00172736 continue to change things I am a donor I 9KZIcKpURjA-00774-00172737-00173081 donated in 2011 but because things were 9KZIcKpURjA-00775-00173082-00173240 changing there were regulatory things 9KZIcKpURjA-00776-00173241-00173492 going on which meant that at the time my 9KZIcKpURjA-00777-00173493-00173750 material couldn't get used until 2013 9KZIcKpURjA-00778-00173751-00174002 despite they told me I was the only 9KZIcKpURjA-00779-00174003-00174251 viable UK donor who had volunteered at 9KZIcKpURjA-00780-00174252-00174593 their clinic for a year or so and of 9KZIcKpURjA-00781-00174594-00174767 course maybe more change needs to come 9KZIcKpURjA-00782-00174768-00174974 so for example I was little horrified 9KZIcKpURjA-00783-00174975-00175274 when donating when they discovered that 9KZIcKpURjA-00784-00175275-00175532 I could specify not to let people of 9KZIcKpURjA-00785-00175533-00175796 certain races and sexual orientations 9KZIcKpURjA-00786-00175797-00176099 have my material interestingly enough 9KZIcKpURjA-00787-00176100-00176249 though when I turn that on its head and 9KZIcKpURjA-00788-00176250-00176585 I asked about religions I was told I was 9KZIcKpURjA-00789-00176586-00176723 not possible for me to make any 9KZIcKpURjA-00790-00176724-00177026 selection as to different religions 9KZIcKpURjA-00791-00177027-00177356 getting or not getting my material I was 9KZIcKpURjA-00792-00177357-00177596 told stricter religions in fact tend to 9KZIcKpURjA-00793-00177597-00177767 sort it out within the community as a 9KZIcKpURjA-00794-00177768-00178013 private matter and so it doesn't really 9KZIcKpURjA-00795-00178014-00178178 matter that much anyway in terms of my 9KZIcKpURjA-00796-00178179-00178508 inquiry but we changed things what about 9KZIcKpURjA-00797-00178509-00178727 future change and this ties in with a 9KZIcKpURjA-00798-00178728-00178844 lot of the things that Natalie was just 9KZIcKpURjA-00799-00178845-00179039 saying so as I've been saying these 9KZIcKpURjA-00800-00179040-00179359 issues really are important to people 9KZIcKpURjA-00801-00179360-00179699 and they are important to me I donated 9KZIcKpURjA-00802-00179700-00179852 in the first place because I really 9KZIcKpURjA-00803-00179853-00180014 wanted my offspring to exist and be out 9KZIcKpURjA-00804-00180015-00180191 there and in fact I would love to know 9KZIcKpURjA-00805-00180192-00180497 more about them so as you do I put 9KZIcKpURjA-00806-00180498-00180680 together do black show with Sarah Chan 9KZIcKpURjA-00807-00180681-00180956 who is a bioethicists and as I mentioned 9KZIcKpURjA-00808-00180957-00181052 we took it to the Edinburgh Fringe 9KZIcKpURjA-00809-00181053-00181322 Festival last year we even won an award 9KZIcKpURjA-00810-00181323-00181544 for the most disturbing use of a prop on 9KZIcKpURjA-00811-00181545-00181742 stage which sounds much worse than it is 9KZIcKpURjA-00812-00181743-00181898 all we really did was hand the turkey 9KZIcKpURjA-00813-00181899-00182099 based around the audience as an example 9KZIcKpURjA-00814-00182100-00182294 but this stuff is really important to 9KZIcKpURjA-00815-00182295-00182468 people and we discovered we weren't the 9KZIcKpURjA-00816-00182469-00182681 only ones with shows on this topic some 9KZIcKpURjA-00817-00182682-00182864 of the others being a great deal more 9KZIcKpURjA-00818-00182865-00183035 creative than ours and I'll mention a 9KZIcKpURjA-00819-00183036-00183158 little bit more about that later 9KZIcKpURjA-00820-00183159-00183422 in putting our show together I wanted to 9KZIcKpURjA-00821-00183423-00183605 explore the argument similar to Natalie 9KZIcKpURjA-00822-00183606-00183716 that there's another thing which is 9KZIcKpURjA-00823-00183717-00183815 important to people 9KZIcKpURjA-00824-00183816-00183867 the 9KZIcKpURjA-00825-00183868-00184173 not just knowing who you are but also 9KZIcKpURjA-00826-00184174-00184425 knowing who you have become or what you 9KZIcKpURjA-00827-00184426-00184659 have become what is your legacy and I 9KZIcKpURjA-00828-00184660-00184809 think knowing that parts of you have 9KZIcKpURjA-00829-00184810-00185064 carried on is equally powerful to people 9KZIcKpURjA-00830-00185065-00185400 as it turns out I'm not alone people 9KZIcKpURjA-00831-00185401-00185637 came and talked to us after the show men 9KZIcKpURjA-00832-00185638-00185895 who donated pre 1995 who find that it 9KZIcKpURjA-00833-00185896-00186081 plays upon their minds that they just 9KZIcKpURjA-00834-00186082-00186204 don't know what the outcome of their 9KZIcKpURjA-00835-00186205-00186393 donation was they have even less 9KZIcKpURjA-00836-00186394-00186543 information about their donation than I 9KZIcKpURjA-00837-00186544-00186744 do it's important to people 9KZIcKpURjA-00838-00186745-00187017 interestingly we didn't meet anybody who 9KZIcKpURjA-00839-00187018-00187152 had been a donor in the last 15 years 9KZIcKpURjA-00840-00187153-00187401 but I guess that's not so surprising if 9KZIcKpURjA-00841-00187402-00187662 there are fewer people doing it and I 9KZIcKpURjA-00842-00187663-00187782 note from the chat that someone's 9KZIcKpURjA-00843-00187783-00188100 suggested I am corrected on the idea 9KZIcKpURjA-00844-00188101-00188343 that nobody does it and we can we can 9KZIcKpURjA-00845-00188344-00188451 talk about that perhaps a little bit 9KZIcKpURjA-00846-00188452-00189023 later I did get to wondering whether the 9KZIcKpURjA-00847-00189024-00189273 one-sidedness of the current law is part 9KZIcKpURjA-00848-00189274-00189453 of the barrier to volunteers right now 9KZIcKpURjA-00849-00189454-00189741 before it used to be anonymous both ways 9KZIcKpURjA-00850-00189742-00190026 which at least is a balanced scenario 9KZIcKpURjA-00851-00190027-00190374 now information flows one way but not 9KZIcKpURjA-00852-00190375-00190665 the other would people be more inclined 9KZIcKpURjA-00853-00190666-00190827 to donate if they got to know more about 9KZIcKpURjA-00854-00190828-00191088 their offspring my thinking in the show 9KZIcKpURjA-00855-00191089-00191304 though and really here today as well is 9KZIcKpURjA-00856-00191305-00191487 that these motivations which is so 9KZIcKpURjA-00857-00191488-00191631 important to people that the law was 9KZIcKpURjA-00858-00191632-00192087 changed do run both ways now as with 9KZIcKpURjA-00859-00192088-00192279 Natalie I'm not saying this is an easy 9KZIcKpURjA-00860-00192280-00192471 thing to address and of course it would 9KZIcKpURjA-00861-00192472-00192699 need careful thought plenty of comments 9KZIcKpURjA-00862-00192700-00192822 were made in our show about the 9KZIcKpURjA-00863-00192823-00192951 potential unhealthiness 9KZIcKpURjA-00864-00192952-00193182 of donors just dropping in on a young 9KZIcKpURjA-00865-00193183-00193443 person's life although I also note from 9KZIcKpURjA-00866-00193444-00193575 from some of the things that Natalie 9KZIcKpURjA-00867-00193576-00193692 said that it's not like there aren't 9KZIcKpURjA-00868-00193693-00193923 plenty of cases of messiness associated 9KZIcKpURjA-00869-00193924-00194316 with the traditional way of bringing up 9KZIcKpURjA-00870-00194317-00194565 families and running things this does 9KZIcKpURjA-00871-00194566-00194703 bring me back though to my earlier 9KZIcKpURjA-00872-00194704-00194919 question to you one other objection that 9KZIcKpURjA-00873-00194920-00195078 we heard in our show was that at the 9KZIcKpURjA-00874-00195079-00195294 moment it's still possible that a donor 9KZIcKpURjA-00875-00195295-00195483 conceived person may not have been told 9KZIcKpURjA-00876-00195484-00195693 and that's something that people rightly 9KZIcKpURjA-00877-00195694-00195861 thought would make a donor being able to 9KZIcKpURjA-00878-00195862-00196017 drop in on a donor conceived persons 9KZIcKpURjA-00879-00196018-00196431 life quite a catastrophic event now 9KZIcKpURjA-00880-00196432-00196578 perhaps the idea of opening up the 9KZIcKpURjA-00881-00196579-00196776 information flow in both directions is 9KZIcKpURjA-00882-00196777-00196890 too simplistic 9KZIcKpURjA-00883-00196891-00197163 so we also explored a second theme in 9KZIcKpURjA-00884-00197164-00197223 our show 9KZIcKpURjA-00885-00197224-00197427 and again Natalie touched on this if 9KZIcKpURjA-00886-00197428-00197691 everybody involved consents should 9KZIcKpURjA-00887-00197692-00197889 owners be more allowed to get involved 9KZIcKpURjA-00888-00197890-00198147 earlier could this help with some of the 9KZIcKpURjA-00889-00198148-00198345 issues I've identified which were raised 9KZIcKpURjA-00890-00198346-00198654 our show regarding the simple idea of 9KZIcKpURjA-00891-00198655-00198888 donors being able to contact don't 9KZIcKpURjA-00892-00198889-00199176 conceive children in the same way but 9KZIcKpURjA-00893-00199177-00199353 telling people from a start that they 9KZIcKpURjA-00894-00199354-00199541 are donor conceived is now regarded as 9KZIcKpURjA-00895-00199542-00199884 as good could we minimize that 9KZIcKpURjA-00896-00199885-00200115 potentially jarring terrifying meeting 9KZIcKpURjA-00897-00200116-00200340 at age eighteen if instead more 9KZIcKpURjA-00898-00200341-00200577 information and shared throughout the 9KZIcKpURjA-00899-00200578-00200879 process at the end of the day even 9KZIcKpURjA-00900-00200880-00201024 without the law allowing more 9KZIcKpURjA-00901-00201025-00201191 information flow surrounding private 9KZIcKpURjA-00902-00201192-00201411 health care or NHS donations things are 9KZIcKpURjA-00903-00201412-00201633 still changing anyway though we can 9KZIcKpURjA-00904-00201634-00201888 already as Natalie said to we can sort 9KZIcKpURjA-00905-00201889-00202089 it out amongst our families our friends 9KZIcKpURjA-00906-00202090-00202506 or even as I found out religious 9KZIcKpURjA-00907-00202507-00202743 communities but now the internet has 9KZIcKpURjA-00908-00202744-00202920 naturally said offers has even more ways 9KZIcKpURjA-00909-00202921-00203082 to do it that you've got co-parenting 9KZIcKpURjA-00910-00203083-00203283 websites which introduced donors to 9KZIcKpURjA-00911-00203284-00203457 prospective parents and there are 9KZIcKpURjA-00912-00203458-00203652 various levels of involvement you can 9KZIcKpURjA-00913-00203653-00203853 have so you can donate and be done with 9KZIcKpURjA-00914-00203854-00204048 and you can run through all these levels 9KZIcKpURjA-00915-00204049-00204225 all the way up to I want to be involved 9KZIcKpURjA-00916-00204226-00204554 in a three parent family a criticism of 9KZIcKpURjA-00917-00204555-00204759 these sites is the lack of legal 9KZIcKpURjA-00918-00204760-00204948 protection that they offer because you 9KZIcKpURjA-00919-00204948-00205163 may then be liable for any children that 9KZIcKpURjA-00920-00205164-00205476 are conceived but on the other hand the 9KZIcKpURjA-00921-00205477-00205691 difference in information flow level may 9KZIcKpURjA-00922-00205692-00205881 appeal to donors who think it is more 9KZIcKpURjA-00923-00205882-00206117 important to know either the donor can 9KZIcKpURjA-00924-00206119-00206469 see children or the families more about 9KZIcKpURjA-00925-00206469-00206723 that than they would on the NHS anyway I 9KZIcKpURjA-00926-00206723-00206931 find it interesting to consider that 9KZIcKpURjA-00927-00206932-00207113 technology is allowing us to get around 9KZIcKpURjA-00928-00207114-00207351 the conception problem but by default 9KZIcKpURjA-00929-00207352-00207548 what we've tried to do with it is 9KZIcKpURjA-00930-00207548-00207777 reinforce the way we think families 9KZIcKpURjA-00931-00207778-00208148 should be beforehand so I've heard it 9KZIcKpURjA-00932-00208150-00208305 said that changing technology do not 9KZIcKpURjA-00933-00208306-00208562 really bring these changes in technology 9KZIcKpURjA-00934-00208563-00208736 don't really bring problems they only 9KZIcKpURjA-00935-00208737-00208971 bring opportunities so is it the case 9KZIcKpURjA-00936-00208971-00209216 that when taking these opportunities we 9KZIcKpURjA-00937-00209217-00209355 should look to something new 9KZIcKpURjA-00938-00209356-00209623 rather than propping up the status quo 9KZIcKpURjA-00939-00209625-00209901 should your opportunities necessarily 9KZIcKpURjA-00940-00209902-00210192 herald change this is perhaps a timely 9KZIcKpURjA-00941-00210192-00210359 question to ask so for example look at 9KZIcKpURjA-00942-00210360-00210573 coronavirus in this meeting things 9KZIcKpURjA-00943-00210573-00210732 changed I'm almost certain not 9KZIcKpURjA-00944-00210733-00210935 everything will go back to the way it 9KZIcKpURjA-00945-00210936-00211104 was now that we've experienced some of 9KZIcKpURjA-00946-00211105-00211242 the other possibilities that are out 9KZIcKpURjA-00947-00211242-00211587 there another example where we're seeing 9KZIcKpURjA-00948-00211588-00211835 our ideas of modern families changing 9KZIcKpURjA-00949-00211836-00212004 with society again Natalie sort of 9KZIcKpURjA-00950-00212005-00212246 alluded to this single parenting is much 9KZIcKpURjA-00951-00212248-00212394 more accepting now than it was 50 years 9KZIcKpURjA-00952-00212394-00212460 ago 9KZIcKpURjA-00953-00212461-00212673 single sex couples are recognized as 9KZIcKpURjA-00954-00212673-00212921 parents and whether it's recognized in 9KZIcKpURjA-00955-00212923-00213153 law or not people are out there forming 9KZIcKpURjA-00956-00213154-00213366 three or more parent families the idea 9KZIcKpURjA-00957-00213367-00213525 of a nuclear family is kind of a 9KZIcKpURjA-00958-00213526-00213771 relatively relatively recent concept 9KZIcKpURjA-00959-00213771-00213954 anyway if you go back far enough you 9KZIcKpURjA-00960-00213955-00214185 have children being raised by family 9KZIcKpURjA-00961-00214186-00214329 units which call into play multiple 9KZIcKpURjA-00962-00214330-00214553 generations or even a village or a tribe 9KZIcKpURjA-00963-00214554-00214764 that kind of thing I think at the end of 9KZIcKpURjA-00964-00214765-00214887 the day as long as we're doing better 9KZIcKpURjA-00965-00214888-00215144 than TV sitcom shameless we're doing 9KZIcKpURjA-00966-00215146-00215544 okay so is it right that we should rate 9KZIcKpURjA-00967-00215544-00215792 these issues with such importance for 9KZIcKpURjA-00968-00215794-00215967 example I didn't meet my own father 9KZIcKpURjA-00969-00215967-00216282 until I was 16 and it answered some of 9KZIcKpURjA-00970-00216283-00216459 my questions sure but it didn't answer 9KZIcKpURjA-00971-00216460-00216723 everything and it makes me wonder is 9KZIcKpURjA-00972-00216723-00216896 that is it that it's important to know 9KZIcKpURjA-00973-00216898-00217179 who you are or really is it that it's 9KZIcKpURjA-00974-00217180-00217455 important not to not know who you are 9KZIcKpURjA-00975-00217456-00217694 especially when you think everyone else 9KZIcKpURjA-00976-00217696-00217881 around you does know who they are and 9KZIcKpURjA-00977-00217882-00218267 that's a that's something that I ponder 9KZIcKpURjA-00978-00218269-00218601 over in the meantime if I if I wanted to 9KZIcKpURjA-00979-00218602-00218769 I can of course make other efforts to 9KZIcKpURjA-00980-00218769-00218921 find my offspring especially if it turns 9KZIcKpURjA-00981-00218923-00219138 out that they or their parents are also 9KZIcKpURjA-00982-00219139-00219369 interested in finding me for example I 9KZIcKpURjA-00983-00219369-00219519 could do an Edinburgh Fringe Show and 9KZIcKpURjA-00984-00219519-00219685 hope that were mouth reaches them 9KZIcKpURjA-00985-00219686-00219930 actually friends and family do 9KZIcKpURjA-00986-00219931-00220098 periodically message me every time a new 9KZIcKpURjA-00987-00220098-00220263 someone being donor conceived in 9KZIcKpURjA-00988-00220264-00220437 Manchester and they let me know oh and 9KZIcKpURjA-00989-00220438-00220692 they found one of your kids or a local 9KZIcKpURjA-00990-00220692-00220871 newspaper maybe might be interested in 9KZIcKpURjA-00991-00220873-00221100 my story and who knows one day I might 9KZIcKpURjA-00992-00221101-00221376 look into that but beyond me taking out 9KZIcKpURjA-00993-00221377-00221592 personal ads we also have genomic 9KZIcKpURjA-00994-00221592-00221723 medicine coming to the fore and 9KZIcKpURjA-00995-00221725-00222012 associated services for example 23andme 9KZIcKpURjA-00996-00222013-00222260 where you sample and you get that best 9KZIcKpURjA-00997-00222261-00222462 in their database to find out if there's 9KZIcKpURjA-00998-00222463-00222692 anyone in it that is related to you only 9KZIcKpURjA-00999-00222694-00222882 sorry to interrupt we need it we need to 9KZIcKpURjA-01000-00222883-00223694 move on I'm close so yeah these things 9KZIcKpURjA-01001-00223696-00223827 are coming into more common use because 9KZIcKpURjA-01002-00223828-00223953 this stuff is important to people 9KZIcKpURjA-01003-00223954-00224130 so people are starting to find each 9KZIcKpURjA-01004-00224131-00224319 other anyway one of those shows I 9KZIcKpURjA-01005-00224319-00224421 mentioned the French for example was 9KZIcKpURjA-01006-00224421-00224550 about a woman who found a half-sister 9KZIcKpURjA-01007-00224551-00224773 and went from there to a genetic father 9KZIcKpURjA-01008-00224775-00224985 but then there was a drama because he 9KZIcKpURjA-01009-00224986-00225132 didn't want to know and he was upset 9KZIcKpURjA-01010-00225133-00225269 that his because his donation was 9KZIcKpURjA-01011-00225271-00225432 supposed to be anonymous someone else I 9KZIcKpURjA-01012-00225433-00225585 work with found cousins and he's trying 9KZIcKpURjA-01013-00225586-00225783 to get parents to use the service as 9KZIcKpURjA-01014-00225784-00225969 well so they can find out which side of 9KZIcKpURjA-01015-00225969-00226104 the family they're from well I'll finish 9KZIcKpURjA-01016-00226105-00226311 off with a one last question that we 9KZIcKpURjA-01017-00226312-00226494 asked in the show about who should have 9KZIcKpURjA-01018-00226494-00226719 a say what I do with my genes when I 9KZIcKpURjA-01019-00226719-00226911 donated there was a required counseling 9KZIcKpURjA-01020-00226912-00227021 session and they asked to talk to my 9KZIcKpURjA-01021-00227023-00227229 partner but not to any members of my 9KZIcKpURjA-01022-00227230-00227421 genetic family and yet as I just 9KZIcKpURjA-01023-00227421-00227573 mentioned my actions have created 9KZIcKpURjA-01024-00227575-00227742 grandchildren nephews or nieces and 9KZIcKpURjA-01025-00227742-00227958 cousins so I had to break it to my 9KZIcKpURjA-01026-00227959-00228092 parents that they have eight grandkids 9KZIcKpURjA-01027-00228094-00228246 that they will very possibly never meet 9KZIcKpURjA-01028-00228246-00228432 and as you can imagine it turns out that 9KZIcKpURjA-01029-00228433-00228606 even they think is important to know 9KZIcKpURjA-01030-00228607-00228852 thank you very much for bearing with me 9KZIcKpURjA-01031-00228853-00229236 and that's me thank you very much okay 9KZIcKpURjA-01032-00229237-00229503 we need to move on so the net our next 9KZIcKpURjA-01033-00229504-00229752 speaker is Deborah Bloor Deborah are you 9KZIcKpURjA-01034-00229753-00229925 with us 9KZIcKpURjA-01035-00229926-00230423 okay welcome your ten minutes starts now 9KZIcKpURjA-01036-00230423-00230646 it's interesting and I feel a bit 9KZIcKpURjA-01037-00230646-00231044 chastened because I approach this topic 9KZIcKpURjA-01038-00231046-00231219 from a completely different angle from 9KZIcKpURjA-01039-00231219-00231396 almost everyone I've heard speaking 9KZIcKpURjA-01040-00231396-00231561 today but what you've said to me today 9KZIcKpURjA-01041-00231562-00231746 is so interesting and my colleagues Lena 9KZIcKpURjA-01042-00231748-00231948 Wilkinson is also on the call and she'll 9KZIcKpURjA-01043-00231948-00232236 be answering questions later I'm 9KZIcKpURjA-01044-00232237-00232401 director of governance at captivity so 9KZIcKpURjA-01045-00232402-00232641 we recruit donors both sperm and egg 9KZIcKpURjA-01046-00232642-00232890 donors and we do surrogacy in our 9KZIcKpURjA-01047-00232891-00233123 clinics across the care group and it's 9KZIcKpURjA-01048-00233125-00233385 my job to make sure that the clinic's 9KZIcKpURjA-01049-00233386-00233634 follow the law and implement all of the 9KZIcKpURjA-01050-00233635-00233942 policy and legislation around donor 9KZIcKpURjA-01051-00233944-00234156 recruitment and when I was first given 9KZIcKpURjA-01052-00234157-00234339 the topic I think you know crikey nose 9KZIcKpURjA-01053-00234340-00234558 is this is quite a difficult one what do 9KZIcKpURjA-01054-00234559-00234855 I think about it but it was a fantastic 9KZIcKpURjA-01055-00234856-00235077 opportunity for me to think about how 9KZIcKpURjA-01056-00235078-00235386 the practical things that we do impact 9KZIcKpURjA-01057-00235387-00235551 on donors and these are the things that 9KZIcKpURjA-01058-00235552-00235788 the legislation and policy require us to 9KZIcKpURjA-01059-00235789-00235953 do but I've looked at this from a 9KZIcKpURjA-01060-00235954-00236139 completely different angle from the rest 9KZIcKpURjA-01061-00236140-00236394 of the speakers and it makes me even 9KZIcKpURjA-01062-00236394-00236573 more convinced that we have to think 9KZIcKpURjA-01063-00236575-00236844 carefully about the policy and 9KZIcKpURjA-01064-00236844-00237069 legislation around donor recruitment so 9KZIcKpURjA-01065-00237069-00237315 as an example I 9KZIcKpURjA-01066-00237316-00237719 all of the ways or the potentially the 9KZIcKpURjA-01067-00237721-00238014 barriers and hurdles we put in before 9KZIcKpURjA-01068-00238015-00238349 donors - before they can actually donate 9KZIcKpURjA-01069-00238350-00238655 their gametes so I'm sure many of you or 9KZIcKpURjA-01070-00238656-00238859 many of the audience will know that the 9KZIcKpURjA-01071-00238860-00239054 first thing we do is ask our donors 9KZIcKpURjA-01072-00239055-00239192 about their medical history we're 9KZIcKpURjA-01073-00239194-00239375 required to do that the law requires us 9KZIcKpURjA-01074-00239376-00239664 to do that and policy and when we do 9KZIcKpURjA-01075-00239665-00239957 that we ask our donors it may not be 9KZIcKpURjA-01076-00239958-00240134 across group I'm speaking for care 9KZIcKpURjA-01077-00240135-00240353 facility but we ask our donors to fill 9KZIcKpURjA-01078-00240354-00240635 in a really complex medical history form 9KZIcKpURjA-01079-00240636-00240896 and when I thought about how that might 9KZIcKpURjA-01080-00240898-00241106 impact on our donors I was thinking that 9KZIcKpURjA-01081-00241107-00241392 we're asking we're asking a lot of them 9KZIcKpURjA-01082-00241392-00241638 to know about their family history these 9KZIcKpURjA-01083-00241639-00241821 are ma questionnaires that ask about 9KZIcKpURjA-01084-00241821-00242063 questions about a donors multi 9KZIcKpURjA-01085-00242064-00242249 multi-generational history and I was 9KZIcKpURjA-01086-00242250-00242576 thinking about my own children and you 9KZIcKpURjA-01087-00242577-00242844 know they they only knew their maternal 9KZIcKpURjA-01088-00242844-00243015 grandmother is a very elderly lady 9KZIcKpURjA-01089-00243016-00243273 without timers we would ask God owners 9KZIcKpURjA-01090-00243273-00243569 to tell us what their grandparents what 9KZIcKpURjA-01091-00243571-00243744 conditions were illnesses are running 9KZIcKpURjA-01092-00243744-00243950 through their families so that we can 9KZIcKpURjA-01093-00243951-00244130 assess whether they may have a genetic 9KZIcKpURjA-01094-00244131-00244478 condition that we might think could be 9KZIcKpURjA-01095-00244479-00244730 passed on to their future children my 9KZIcKpURjA-01096-00244731-00244917 children wouldn't know that my mother 9KZIcKpURjA-01097-00244917-00245094 nor actually had breast cancer at a very 9KZIcKpURjA-01098-00245094-00245292 early age they were only saw as an 9KZIcKpURjA-01099-00245292-00245448 elderly lady and knew she died in the 9KZIcKpURjA-01100-00245448-00245729 90s and had sinus disease so I felt that 9KZIcKpURjA-01101-00245730-00246056 the III this doing this talk and 9KZIcKpURjA-01102-00246057-00246230 thinking about it made me imagine that 9KZIcKpURjA-01103-00246231-00246677 we're asking a lot of donors and also 9KZIcKpURjA-01104-00246678-00246959 you know we are potentially when we ask 9KZIcKpURjA-01105-00246960-00247169 in a clinic questions about a donors 9KZIcKpURjA-01106-00247171-00247416 medical and potentially genetic history 9KZIcKpURjA-01107-00247417-00247775 we're kind of expecting that they know 9KZIcKpURjA-01108-00247776-00247973 stuff well they know the significance of 9KZIcKpURjA-01109-00247975-00248402 stuff another example so we do not only 9KZIcKpURjA-01110-00248403-00248534 do we ask people about their medical 9KZIcKpURjA-01111-00248535-00248763 history and of course that's really 9KZIcKpURjA-01112-00248764-00248996 important because first and foremost we 9KZIcKpURjA-01113-00248998-00249321 have to know that when we when we take 9KZIcKpURjA-01114-00249321-00249564 the the gametes of a donor particularly 9KZIcKpURjA-01115-00249565-00249696 an egg donor of course who's going 9KZIcKpURjA-01116-00249696-00249867 through quite an invasive procedure and 9KZIcKpURjA-01117-00249867-00250151 taking medications our first priority 9KZIcKpURjA-01118-00250152-00250382 has to be to protect that donors house 9KZIcKpURjA-01119-00250383-00250686 and well-being we must never ever and 9KZIcKpURjA-01120-00250687-00251055 their health in taking their eggs you 9KZIcKpURjA-01121-00251056-00251196 know it's an amazing gifts they're 9KZIcKpURjA-01122-00251196-00251430 giving to us and we have to respect and 9KZIcKpURjA-01123-00251431-00251621 make sure that we we protect them and we 9KZIcKpURjA-01124-00251623-00251937 care for them but then we ask them about 9KZIcKpURjA-01125-00251938-00252194 their medical history and we do some 9KZIcKpURjA-01126-00252196-00252510 basic genetic screening but there's a 9KZIcKpURjA-01127-00252511-00252816 disconnect here I feel between you know 9KZIcKpURjA-01128-00252817-00253290 we've talked about how it feels perhaps 9KZIcKpURjA-01129-00253291-00253488 through this work and this this 9KZIcKpURjA-01130-00253489-00253767 conference that maybe the odds are 9KZIcKpURjA-01131-00253767-00253944 stacked in favor of the recipient or 9KZIcKpURjA-01132-00253944-00254148 particularly a donor conceived child and 9KZIcKpURjA-01133-00254148-00254664 the rights of the donor are somehow not 9KZIcKpURjA-01134-00254665-00254867 not not the rights of the donor but the 9KZIcKpURjA-01135-00254869-00255042 experience of the donor perhaps isn't 9KZIcKpURjA-01136-00255042-00255303 given the right we don't have the right 9KZIcKpURjA-01137-00255304-00255546 balance and I think that comes through 9KZIcKpURjA-01138-00255546-00255762 with with some of the avait invasive 9KZIcKpURjA-01139-00255763-00255963 tests we do on our donors there's the 9KZIcKpURjA-01140-00255964-00256158 law that requires us to screen our 9KZIcKpURjA-01141-00256159-00256350 donors to make sure they don't have 9KZIcKpURjA-01142-00256351-00256515 infectious conditions that can be passed 9KZIcKpURjA-01143-00256516-00256680 on to their future children or in fact 9KZIcKpURjA-01144-00256681-00257042 the recipients but the way the policy 9KZIcKpURjA-01145-00257044-00257316 around that law has been shared and 9KZIcKpURjA-01146-00257317-00257625 implemented means we you know it's a 9KZIcKpURjA-01147-00257626-00257792 very basic level we have to screen our 9KZIcKpURjA-01148-00257794-00258009 donors a lot and we we take a lot of 9KZIcKpURjA-01149-00258010-00258278 blood from limits it's very invasive and 9KZIcKpURjA-01150-00258279-00258504 again we're putting berries in their way 9KZIcKpURjA-01151-00258505-00258936 and most recently the HIV a the the 9KZIcKpURjA-01152-00258937-00259116 previous speaker mentioned the 9KZIcKpURjA-01153-00259117-00259527 difficulty when we do breaks it and our 9KZIcKpURjA-01154-00259528-00259890 regulator has decided to diverge from 9KZIcKpURjA-01155-00259891-00260192 the path of Europe in terms of what 9KZIcKpURjA-01156-00260194-00260355 screening is required for our donors and 9KZIcKpURjA-01157-00260356-00260583 we now have to quarantine our donors for 9KZIcKpURjA-01158-00260584-00260913 three months before we can release their 9KZIcKpURjA-01159-00260914-00261156 gametes for use and retest them after 9KZIcKpURjA-01160-00261157-00261423 that three months so we're expecting our 9KZIcKpURjA-01161-00261423-00261573 donors to come to our clinics more 9KZIcKpURjA-01162-00261573-00261891 frequently because of the way our law 9KZIcKpURjA-01163-00261892-00262185 the legislation has been interpreted and 9KZIcKpURjA-01164-00262186-00262467 moved into policy it's not legislation 9KZIcKpURjA-01165-00262468-00262683 but moved into policy now and I I felt 9KZIcKpURjA-01166-00262684-00262878 that that was potentially something we 9KZIcKpURjA-01167-00262879-00263208 could maybe ought to challenge and the 9KZIcKpURjA-01168-00263209-00263589 fact that we have to we have to do so we 9KZIcKpURjA-01169-00263590-00263922 do this screening I the scientist in me 9KZIcKpURjA-01170-00263923-00264015 questions 9KZIcKpURjA-01171-00264016-00264123 the 9KZIcKpURjA-01172-00264124-00264438 the validity of how much extra 9KZIcKpURjA-01173-00264439-00264722 protection the screening offers for our 9KZIcKpURjA-01174-00264723-00264945 recipients or the donor conceive child 9KZIcKpURjA-01175-00264946-00265354 and I think a sensible debate about 9KZIcKpURjA-01176-00265355-00265604 balancing the needs of the donor and the 9KZIcKpURjA-01177-00265605-00265676 recipient 9KZIcKpURjA-01178-00265677-00265904 and future children is would be really 9KZIcKpURjA-01179-00265905-00266273 valuable and finally we we talked about 9KZIcKpURjA-01180-00266274-00266507 there's been lots of talk about the 9KZIcKpURjA-01181-00266508-00266782 lifelong connection that feeling that 9KZIcKpURjA-01182-00266783-00267222 link that I think it's amazing what our 9KZIcKpURjA-01183-00267223-00267575 donors do what are the things that we 9KZIcKpURjA-01184-00267576-00267819 find happens quite sometimes not 9KZIcKpURjA-01185-00267820-00268202 frequently but on occasion we learned 9KZIcKpURjA-01186-00268203-00268416 from our donors we asked our donors to 9KZIcKpURjA-01187-00268417-00268647 tell them to tell us if they become 9KZIcKpURjA-01188-00268648-00268815 aware that they are the carriers or in 9KZIcKpURjA-01189-00268816-00268989 having their family a serious genetic 9KZIcKpURjA-01190-00268990-00269214 illness which can be inherited because 9KZIcKpURjA-01191-00269215-00269450 we talked about genomic medicine and we 9KZIcKpURjA-01192-00269451-00269681 then might share that information with 9KZIcKpURjA-01193-00269682-00269927 the recipients of donor gametes or in 9KZIcKpURjA-01194-00269928-00270144 fact with the so they can share it and 9KZIcKpURjA-01195-00270145-00270302 use it to make sure the health of their 9KZIcKpURjA-01196-00270303-00270425 future than with that of their children 9KZIcKpURjA-01197-00270426-00270725 is protected but we also sometimes have 9KZIcKpURjA-01198-00270726-00271010 children born through treatment with the 9KZIcKpURjA-01199-00271011-00271175 gummies that weave from donors we've 9KZIcKpURjA-01200-00271176-00271374 recruited who report genetic 9KZIcKpURjA-01201-00271375-00271625 abnormalities in their children or 9KZIcKpURjA-01202-00271626-00271874 potential genetic conditions and then we 9KZIcKpURjA-01203-00271875-00272097 go back to the donors if they've 9KZIcKpURjA-01204-00272098-00272300 consented for us to contact them and 9KZIcKpURjA-01205-00272301-00272525 share information with them that can be 9KZIcKpURjA-01206-00272526-00272828 really really hard for them to process 9KZIcKpURjA-01207-00272829-00273099 and understand and clearly it might help 9KZIcKpURjA-01208-00273100-00273315 them with their own reproductive health 9KZIcKpURjA-01209-00273316-00273744 and decisions but we've talked about the 9KZIcKpURjA-01210-00273745-00274038 lifelong emotional connection but from 9KZIcKpURjA-01211-00274039-00274248 my perspective there is there is a 9KZIcKpURjA-01212-00274249-00274539 lifelong connection through if you like 9KZIcKpURjA-01213-00274540-00274835 that responsibility for the future 9KZIcKpURjA-01214-00274836-00275064 genetic well-being of your children and 9KZIcKpURjA-01215-00275065-00275302 in fact the donors and I think that's 9KZIcKpURjA-01216-00275303-00275600 that's something which perhaps we as 9KZIcKpURjA-01217-00275601-00275841 clinics recognize and take for granted 9KZIcKpURjA-01218-00275842-00276069 and I'm interested that none of the 9KZIcKpURjA-01219-00276070-00276243 donors have that have been interviewed 9KZIcKpURjA-01220-00276244-00276404 or or maybe hasn't been part of the 9KZIcKpURjA-01221-00276405-00276645 questioning but I feel that we put a lot 9KZIcKpURjA-01222-00276646-00277023 of burden on our donors and we have to 9KZIcKpURjA-01223-00277024-00277366 we have to make sure that we so 9KZIcKpURjA-01224-00277367-00277594 caught them and absolutely every step of 9KZIcKpURjA-01225-00277595-00277728 the way and we're there for them 9KZIcKpURjA-01226-00277729-00278287 constantly and I won't say anymore thank 9KZIcKpURjA-01227-00278288-00278527 you thanks very much Deborah wow what 9KZIcKpURjA-01228-00278528-00278839 interesting different perspectives we've 9KZIcKpURjA-01229-00278840-00279153 had on that on this panel there are some 9KZIcKpURjA-01230-00279154-00279408 questions coming in I also think it's 9KZIcKpURjA-01231-00279409-00279775 we've got 22 minutes or so I think I 9KZIcKpURjA-01232-00279776-00279981 also think it's important that members 9KZIcKpURjA-01233-00279982-00280308 of the panel can address questions to 9KZIcKpURjA-01234-00280309-00280477 each other if they would like to so 9KZIcKpURjA-01235-00280478-00280656 please please do that because it's good 9KZIcKpURjA-01236-00280657-00280789 it's nice to have a discussion between 9KZIcKpURjA-01237-00280790-00281020 members of the panel I wonder if I could 9KZIcKpURjA-01238-00281021-00281362 just start start things off by picking 9KZIcKpURjA-01239-00281363-00281508 up something that was asked in the 9KZIcKpURjA-01240-00281509-00281869 earlier session that that that we didn't 9KZIcKpURjA-01241-00281870-00282262 have time to ask which is about the 9KZIcKpURjA-01242-00282263-00282570 language of morality and rights and 9KZIcKpURjA-01243-00282571-00282946 responsibilities and and how how helpful 9KZIcKpURjA-01244-00282947-00283144 that language is where it comes from you 9KZIcKpURjA-01245-00283145-00283648 know how that helps in terms of helps or 9KZIcKpURjA-01246-00283649-00283852 otherwise in terms of the fit between 9KZIcKpURjA-01247-00283853-00284212 law and policy and and donors needs and 9KZIcKpURjA-01248-00284213-00284413 perspectives and so on so I wonder if 9KZIcKpURjA-01249-00284414-00284580 that's something that panel members 9KZIcKpURjA-01250-00284581-00284829 would be willing to I've just lost you 9KZIcKpURjA-01251-00284830-00285073 all they are sorry panel members would 9KZIcKpURjA-01252-00285074-00285451 be willing to address is that something 9KZIcKpURjA-01253-00285452-00285797 you feel you could address yeah 9KZIcKpURjA-01254-00285798-00286413 could we start with Petra 9KZIcKpURjA-01255-00286414-00286779 you need to are nude Petra you're muted 9KZIcKpURjA-01256-00286780-00286933 there we go 9KZIcKpURjA-01257-00286934-00287065 could I have a moment to think about 9KZIcKpURjA-01258-00287066-00287266 that is that is there someone else who 9KZIcKpURjA-01259-00287267-00287500 would like to go ahead I'm sorry I check 9KZIcKpURjA-01260-00287501-00287542 today 9KZIcKpURjA-01261-00287543-00288573 no it's fine anyone else i muted speak 9KZIcKpURjA-01262-00288574-00289048 well and I don't really know whether or 9KZIcKpURjA-01263-00289049-00289219 not there's much I can throw in on that 9KZIcKpURjA-01264-00289220-00289534 but certainly from my my perspective 9KZIcKpURjA-01265-00289535-00289786 when I went to be a donor because 9KZIcKpURjA-01266-00289787-00289930 there's this mandatory counseling that 9KZIcKpURjA-01267-00289931-00290125 you have to do as part of it quite a lot 9KZIcKpURjA-01268-00290126-00290527 of import was placed upon upon the 9KZIcKpURjA-01269-00290528-00290836 morality of what I was doing and the the 9KZIcKpURjA-01270-00290837-00291055 importance and all that kind of thing 9KZIcKpURjA-01271-00291056-00291277 and it it was interesting because none 9KZIcKpURjA-01272-00291278-00291537 of that was really the reason I had B 9KZIcKpURjA-01273-00291538-00291841 III I'd come to a sort of position where 9KZIcKpURjA-01274-00291842-00292036 I wasn't going to have children with my 9KZIcKpURjA-01275-00292037-00292327 partner and and yet I still wanted my my 9KZIcKpURjA-01276-00292328-00292567 offsprings there so so to have them 9KZIcKpURjA-01277-00292568-00292750 confront me with all this kind of all 9KZIcKpURjA-01278-00292751-00292960 your doing such a great thing and roll 9KZIcKpURjA-01279-00292961-00293125 out the red carpet and shake my hand and 9KZIcKpURjA-01280-00293126-00293359 I was really quite bowled over by it I'd 9KZIcKpURjA-01281-00293360-00293608 never considered it at all and the more 9KZIcKpURjA-01282-00293609-00293755 I did think about it the more I did sort 9KZIcKpURjA-01283-00293756-00293860 of come away feeling like a good 9KZIcKpURjA-01284-00293861-00293929 Samaritan 9KZIcKpURjA-01285-00293930-00294322 I don't know whether or not there's any 9KZIcKpURjA-01286-00294323-00294631 more I can say about the about whether 9KZIcKpURjA-01287-00294632-00294955 or not we ought to to to do these things 9KZIcKpURjA-01288-00294956-00296100 it just it was very powerful I think 9KZIcKpURjA-01289-00296101-00296389 it's so fascinating to hear these 9KZIcKpURjA-01290-00296390-00296556 discussions from the perspective of 9KZIcKpURjA-01291-00296557-00296842 someone who works with donors all the 9KZIcKpURjA-01292-00296843-00296983 time recruiting them you know people 9KZIcKpURjA-01293-00296984-00297646 like Lee and I think for us as the law 9KZIcKpURjA-01294-00297647-00297976 itself brings in this notion of morality 9KZIcKpURjA-01295-00297977-00298240 or actually not a normal policy so as 9KZIcKpURjA-01296-00298241-00298435 we've talked about using you spoke about 9KZIcKpURjA-01297-00298436-00298761 at the beginning Jennifer that we have 9KZIcKpURjA-01298-00298762-00299107 ledges on how much a donor can be 9KZIcKpURjA-01299-00299108-00299419 reimbursed and that's very very strict 9KZIcKpURjA-01300-00299420-00299500 but 9KZIcKpURjA-01301-00299501-00299815 the age of Jay when they speak to us as 9KZIcKpURjA-01302-00299816-00300154 licensed clinics there's a certain angle 9KZIcKpURjA-01303-00300155-00300457 where they they really don't want us to 9KZIcKpURjA-01304-00300458-00300754 recruit donors who might potentially be 9KZIcKpURjA-01305-00300755-00300895 doing it just for the money 9KZIcKpURjA-01306-00300896-00301221 and so as clinics we might I think 9KZIcKpURjA-01307-00301222-00301495 speaking mentions having having to speak 9KZIcKpURjA-01308-00301496-00301582 to a counselor 9KZIcKpURjA-01309-00301583-00301935 I think our clinic would recommend that 9KZIcKpURjA-01310-00301936-00302235 people speak to counselors not because 9KZIcKpURjA-01311-00302236-00302458 we want to explore the morality the 9KZIcKpURjA-01312-00302459-00302641 reasons their motivations for giving a 9KZIcKpURjA-01313-00302642-00302998 donation but simple because sometimes 9KZIcKpURjA-01314-00302999-00303223 there are elements today at donation 9KZIcKpURjA-01315-00303224-00303403 that our counselors are much more expert 9KZIcKpURjA-01316-00303404-00303609 than we are in helping people understand 9KZIcKpURjA-01317-00303610-00303814 how it might feel for example if someone 9KZIcKpURjA-01318-00303815-00304144 sharing their gametes or how might they 9KZIcKpURjA-01319-00304145-00304345 feel if if the person they share with 9KZIcKpURjA-01320-00304346-00304485 establishes a pregnancy and they 9KZIcKpURjA-01321-00304486-00304624 themselves don't you know there's lots 9KZIcKpURjA-01322-00304625-00304876 of stuff that me the scientist I I 9KZIcKpURjA-01323-00304877-00305125 wouldn't even begin to know how to guide 9KZIcKpURjA-01324-00305126-00305296 people but I think that morality 9KZIcKpURjA-01325-00305297-00305515 question is influenced by the law and 9KZIcKpURjA-01326-00305516-00305743 policy a little because of this notion 9KZIcKpURjA-01327-00305744-00306154 that it some would be somehow wrong for 9KZIcKpURjA-01328-00306155-00306710 a donor to do it for the compensation 9KZIcKpURjA-01329-00306711-00307042 thank you would anybody else from the 9KZIcKpURjA-01330-00307043-00307500 panel like to come back on that one yeah 9KZIcKpURjA-01331-00307501-00308457 they're going to I get to see a 9KZIcKpURjA-01332-00308458-00308788 significant amount of donors and it's 9KZIcKpURjA-01333-00308789-00310642 really in here you very well Selena Lena 9KZIcKpURjA-01334-00310643-00310813 we can't we can't hear you I'm afraid I 9KZIcKpURjA-01335-00310814-00311029 think we need to move to somebody else 9KZIcKpURjA-01336-00311030-00311242 for the moment you're slightly you to 9KZIcKpURjA-01337-00311243-00311800 Butchie can I go to Petra and we'll come 9KZIcKpURjA-01338-00311801-00312451 back to Selena sorry we can't okay 9KZIcKpURjA-01339-00312452-00312737 so Selena you might want if you 9KZIcKpURjA-01340-00312738-00313610 [Music] 9KZIcKpURjA-01341-00313611-00314302 [Music] 9KZIcKpURjA-01342-00314303-00314807 terrible Wi-Fi macare much actually 9KZIcKpURjA-01343-00314808-00315017 muted Selina because it was because we 9KZIcKpURjA-01344-00315018-00315302 couldn't hear but I'm not sure where 9KZIcKpURjA-01345-00315303-00315509 that noise is coming from I've sent you 9KZIcKpURjA-01346-00315510-00315707 a message to explain why have you thank 9KZIcKpURjA-01347-00315708-00315875 you so much I really didn't want to do 9KZIcKpURjA-01348-00315876-00316208 that please apologize wanted to hear 9KZIcKpURjA-01349-00316209-00316535 what she was saying sometimes turning 9KZIcKpURjA-01350-00316536-00316724 the video off could help the connection 9KZIcKpURjA-01351-00316725-00316937 so if she can do a sort of or just a 9KZIcKpURjA-01352-00316938-00317246 voice thing I could help maybe but just 9KZIcKpURjA-01353-00317247-00317498 to say that we have those certainly that 9KZIcKpURjA-01354-00317499-00317654 morality comes through really clearly in 9KZIcKpURjA-01355-00317655-00317804 the study and leah is actually the one 9KZIcKpURjA-01356-00317805-00317906 that of the two of us who's written 9KZIcKpURjA-01357-00317907-00318305 mostly about donors kind of feeling the 9KZIcKpURjA-01358-00318306-00318524 need to explain themselves and the 9KZIcKpURjA-01359-00318525-00318755 emphases being really strongly on doing 9KZIcKpURjA-01360-00318756-00318932 it for the right reasons and sort of the 9KZIcKpURjA-01361-00318933-00319235 feeling like you need to present the 9KZIcKpURjA-01362-00319236-00319457 right reasons and particularly sperm 9KZIcKpURjA-01363-00319458-00319826 donors needing to some way navigate the 9KZIcKpURjA-01364-00319827-00320087 charge that they are not doing it for 9KZIcKpURjA-01365-00320088-00320378 the right reasons and sort of and their 9KZIcKpURjA-01366-00320379-00320545 narratives are very much about 9KZIcKpURjA-01367-00320546-00320780 presenting themselves as a moral human 9KZIcKpURjA-01368-00320781-00321032 being through navigates sort of the the 9KZIcKpURjA-01369-00321033-00321233 the charges that can be made against the 9KZIcKpURjA-01370-00321234-00321404 sperm donors and the reason why they 9KZIcKpURjA-01371-00321405-00321644 might be donating so it's definitely 9KZIcKpURjA-01372-00321645-00321896 really strong sort of findings in in the 9KZIcKpURjA-01373-00321897-00322289 study but only a theory she wants to add 9KZIcKpURjA-01374-00322290-00322526 anything to that I'm just just trying so 9KZIcKpURjA-01375-00322527-00322805 anything so sorry yeah I just I just I 9KZIcKpURjA-01376-00322806-00322958 mean I absolutely agree with all that 9KZIcKpURjA-01377-00322959-00323162 alone just coming back to the original 9KZIcKpURjA-01378-00323163-00323303 question I think which was about whether 9KZIcKpURjA-01379-00323304-00323543 this language around morality and Rights 9KZIcKpURjA-01380-00323544-00323897 is useful and I suppose in many ways I 9KZIcKpURjA-01381-00323898-00324089 don't feel completely qualified to 9KZIcKpURjA-01382-00324090-00324257 answer that question as to whether it's 9KZIcKpURjA-01383-00324258-00324419 right or wrong it's kind of an ethical 9KZIcKpURjA-01384-00324420-00324734 ethical question but I think I would say 9KZIcKpURjA-01385-00324735-00324998 off the back of what Petra said I think 9KZIcKpURjA-01386-00324999-00325163 one of the things that it would be good 9KZIcKpURjA-01387-00325164-00325502 to not have is the assumption that it's 9KZIcKpURjA-01388-00325503-00325742 I think often that a need and the need 9KZIcKpURjA-01389-00325743-00325940 to account for why you've become a donor 9KZIcKpURjA-01390-00325941-00326083 and 9KZIcKpURjA-01391-00326084-00326318 and this is possibly more true the sperm 9KZIcKpURjA-01392-00326319-00326489 donors that we spoke to where there can 9KZIcKpURjA-01393-00326490-00326656 be more of a stigma around it is the 9KZIcKpURjA-01394-00326657-00326857 assumption that you need to be doing 9KZIcKpURjA-01395-00326858-00327062 this for the right reasons and you might 9KZIcKpURjA-01396-00327063-00327226 be doing it for the wrong reasons and if 9KZIcKpURjA-01397-00327227-00327427 you are that's quite problematic so that 9KZIcKpURjA-01398-00327428-00327676 kind of firm then there's a particular 9KZIcKpURjA-01399-00327677-00327847 need to give an account in this 9KZIcKpURjA-01400-00327848-00328043 situation to prove that you are the 9KZIcKpURjA-01401-00328044-00328174 people who doing it for the right 9KZIcKpURjA-01402-00328175-00328354 reasons and therefore this is a good 9KZIcKpURjA-01403-00328355-00328504 thing that's going to have a good impact 9KZIcKpURjA-01404-00328505-00329109 on people in the world and then but then 9KZIcKpURjA-01405-00329110-00329471 yeah got my train of thought here yes 9KZIcKpURjA-01406-00329472-00329771 but also at the same time I don't think 9KZIcKpURjA-01407-00329772-00330139 you can remove these these things are 9KZIcKpURjA-01408-00330140-00330433 things I these are questions about 9KZIcKpURjA-01409-00330434-00330721 personal relationships about 9KZIcKpURjA-01410-00330722-00330941 responsibility for the actions that 9KZIcKpURjA-01411-00330942-00331112 you've taken in your life and there are 9KZIcKpURjA-01412-00331113-00331447 things that we we consider being deeply 9KZIcKpURjA-01413-00331448-00331849 moral questions and so it's sort of 9KZIcKpURjA-01414-00331850-00332002 perhaps inevitable that people going to 9KZIcKpURjA-01415-00332003-00332264 talk about them and in those way but the 9KZIcKpURjA-01416-00332265-00332548 presumption this this meal the stigma 9KZIcKpURjA-01417-00332549-00332770 that maybe this sometimes equipped this 9KZIcKpURjA-01418-00332771-00332983 conversation sometimes starts from it's 9KZIcKpURjA-01419-00332984-00333403 maybe less helpful and something that 9KZIcKpURjA-01420-00333404-00333484 could be addressed 9KZIcKpURjA-01421-00333485-00333994 does that make some Thank You Leah yeah 9KZIcKpURjA-01422-00333995-00334255 I was just yeah I was just gonna chip in 9KZIcKpURjA-01423-00334256-00334474 as well to say that I think you know 9KZIcKpURjA-01424-00334475-00334648 donors often come from a place and we 9KZIcKpURjA-01425-00334649-00334825 see this with surrogates as well where 9KZIcKpURjA-01426-00334826-00334999 they feel under a lot of pressure to be 9KZIcKpURjA-01427-00335000-00335219 doing something for someone else and for 9KZIcKpURjA-01428-00335220-00335458 it to be very selfless and I think 9KZIcKpURjA-01429-00335459-00335623 there's a danger in that but they kind 9KZIcKpURjA-01430-00335624-00335830 of you lose yourself a bit in that and 9KZIcKpURjA-01431-00335831-00335983 that you don't feel that you have the 9KZIcKpURjA-01432-00335984-00336160 voice to say what you want what you need 9KZIcKpURjA-01433-00336161-00336397 from the process so I think for people 9KZIcKpURjA-01434-00336398-00336641 who are supporting donors and surrogates 9KZIcKpURjA-01435-00336642-00336866 it's kind of really important to give 9KZIcKpURjA-01436-00336867-00337078 them the space to be able to say you 9KZIcKpURjA-01437-00337079-00337244 know if they want more information or if 9KZIcKpURjA-01438-00337245-00337498 they you know to be able to respond to 9KZIcKpURjA-01439-00337499-00337715 the their feelings and their wishes as a 9KZIcKpURjA-01440-00337716-00337879 valid participant in this they're not 9KZIcKpURjA-01441-00337880-00338026 somebody that has to do it completely 9KZIcKpURjA-01442-00338027-00338389 selflessly and their feelings do matter 9KZIcKpURjA-01443-00338390-00338720 thank you can I there's it there's a 9KZIcKpURjA-01444-00338721-00338912 sort of big tough general question 9KZIcKpURjA-01445-00338913-00339082 that's come in that I would like to post 9KZIcKpURjA-01446-00339083-00339283 you all and follow it with two so 9KZIcKpURjA-01447-00339284-00339440 there's more specific 9KZIcKpURjA-01448-00339441-00339794 perhaps examples of ideas so the big 9KZIcKpURjA-01449-00339795-00340040 hard question is that we've talked a lot 9KZIcKpURjA-01450-00340041-00340309 about felt connections in donation how 9KZIcKpURjA-01451-00340310-00340459 might these actually translate into 9KZIcKpURjA-01452-00340460-00340721 policy and practice what opportunities 9KZIcKpURjA-01453-00340722-00340960 and difficulties do you see and if I 9KZIcKpURjA-01454-00340961-00341131 could just set just read out these other 9KZIcKpURjA-01455-00341132-00341426 two questions which are could there be 9KZIcKpURjA-01456-00341427-00341605 something like the adoption contact 9KZIcKpURjA-01457-00341606-00341843 register where donors and recipients can 9KZIcKpURjA-01458-00341844-00341993 register their willingness to share 9KZIcKpURjA-01459-00341994-00342229 contact details and if both parties 9KZIcKpURjA-01460-00342230-00342524 agree the details can be handed out and 9KZIcKpURjA-01461-00342525-00342668 then another comment there are also 9KZIcKpURjA-01462-00342669-00342877 voluntary contact registers in some 9KZIcKpURjA-01463-00342878-00343054 Australian states where donors 9KZIcKpURjA-01464-00343055-00343303 recipients DC adults and family members 9KZIcKpURjA-01465-00343304-00343496 on both sides all have the right to 9KZIcKpURjA-01466-00343497-00343705 register right from the start could we 9KZIcKpURjA-01467-00343706-00343901 learn a lot from them those those 9KZIcKpURjA-01468-00343902-00344027 questions are comments were from Debbie 9KZIcKpURjA-01469-00344028-00344356 Kennett and Marilyn Crowe sure so I 9KZIcKpURjA-01470-00344357-00344627 wonder if you could address the big 9KZIcKpURjA-01471-00344628-00344833 question and also maybe taken set those 9KZIcKpURjA-01472-00344834-00345263 those those more specific examples and I 9KZIcKpURjA-01473-00345264-00345433 would think rather than picking on 9KZIcKpURjA-01474-00345434-00345668 anybody I'll let you unmute when you 9KZIcKpURjA-01475-00345669-00345914 feel ready to to address that question 9KZIcKpURjA-01476-00345915-00346105 but it would be good if everybody from 9KZIcKpURjA-01477-00346106-00346247 the panel felt they could address that 9KZIcKpURjA-01478-00346248-00346603 thank you yeah I think that I mean we 9KZIcKpURjA-01479-00346604-00346735 ought to remember that in the UK we 9KZIcKpURjA-01480-00346736-00346978 already have a register so you know the 9KZIcKpURjA-01481-00346979-00347182 information about which donors you know 9KZIcKpURjA-01482-00347183-00347339 conceived with which recipients is 9KZIcKpURjA-01483-00347340-00347513 already sitting there in a publicly held 9KZIcKpURjA-01484-00347514-00347801 register so you know the mechanisms for 9KZIcKpURjA-01485-00347802-00347975 allowing people to consent to that being 9KZIcKpURjA-01486-00347976-00348197 disclosed ought to be reasonably easy 9KZIcKpURjA-01487-00348198-00348379 and you know I realized that register 9KZIcKpURjA-01488-00348380-00348553 doesn't apply to three nineteen ninety 9KZIcKpURjA-01489-00348554-00348920 one donations but it could so I think 9KZIcKpURjA-01490-00348921-00349084 you know if the effort and the funding 9KZIcKpURjA-01491-00349085-00349337 and the support was there it's you know 9KZIcKpURjA-01492-00349338-00349534 not a terribly difficult policy change 9KZIcKpURjA-01493-00349535-00350182 to make thank you this this was a 9KZIcKpURjA-01494-00350183-00350288 question that we talked about a little 9KZIcKpURjA-01495-00350289-00350441 bit when we did our show as well and 9KZIcKpURjA-01496-00350442-00350704 where we sort of we suggested the idea 9KZIcKpURjA-01497-00350705-00350975 of this two-way register and we said 9KZIcKpURjA-01498-00350976-00351101 that practically at the moment because 9KZIcKpURjA-01499-00351102-00351334 the law is the way it is 9KZIcKpURjA-01500-00351335-00351652 all that means is that the donor 9KZIcKpURjA-01501-00351653-00351976 conceived person has an indication as to 9KZIcKpURjA-01502-00351977-00352102 whether or not the donor would would 9KZIcKpURjA-01503-00352103-00352285 like to be contacted or not it doesn't 9KZIcKpURjA-01504-00352286-00352439 really do anything for the donor in 9KZIcKpURjA-01505-00352440-00352715 terms of facilitating that communication 9KZIcKpURjA-01506-00352716-00352826 it just means that they don't 9KZIcKpURjA-01507-00352827-00352994 can see person has an idea whether or 9KZIcKpURjA-01508-00352995-00353192 not there would be welcome if they got 9KZIcKpURjA-01509-00353193-00353369 in touch but I think some of that is 9KZIcKpURjA-01510-00353370-00353717 already kind of covered in there in the 9KZIcKpURjA-01511-00353718-00354014 pack that that donors are encouraged to 9KZIcKpURjA-01512-00354015-00354188 fill out when they when they make their 9KZIcKpURjA-01513-00354189-00354338 donation at the moment so for example I 9KZIcKpURjA-01514-00354339-00354503 was I was encouraged to say a little bit 9KZIcKpURjA-01515-00354504-00354719 about my biography and family history 9KZIcKpURjA-01516-00354720-00355073 but also to write something to any 9KZIcKpURjA-01517-00355074-00355205 potential children that might be 9KZIcKpURjA-01518-00355206-00355541 conceived that they could read first in 9KZIcKpURjA-01519-00355542-00355661 order to decide whether or not to 9KZIcKpURjA-01520-00355662-00356051 contact me and hopefully from from what 9KZIcKpURjA-01521-00356052-00356177 I wrote is clear that I would like them 9KZIcKpURjA-01522-00356178-00356357 to but I guess such a register would be 9KZIcKpURjA-01523-00356358-00356570 like a green light if you like for 9KZIcKpURjA-01524-00356571-00356801 someone wanting to know whether or not 9KZIcKpURjA-01525-00356802-00356966 it was a good idea for them to contact 9KZIcKpURjA-01526-00356967-00357225 their 9KZIcKpURjA-01527-00357226-00357571 thank you I don't like so before I 9KZIcKpURjA-01528-00357572-00357864 worked sorry 9KZIcKpURjA-01529-00357865-00358120 before I worked with care I did work 9KZIcKpURjA-01530-00358121-00358417 with the regulator and so I do know that 9KZIcKpURjA-01531-00358418-00358846 all moderately well my own concern much 9KZIcKpURjA-01532-00358847-00359074 as I would like I think it'd be really 9KZIcKpURjA-01533-00359075-00359314 valuable to redress the balance of the 9KZIcKpURjA-01534-00359315-00359596 right of information for donors I think 9KZIcKpURjA-01535-00359597-00359812 it's a change in the law that's needed 9KZIcKpURjA-01536-00359813-00360034 around disclosure and changing the law 9KZIcKpURjA-01537-00360035-00360361 is is tricky and I think it will take us 9KZIcKpURjA-01538-00360362-00360538 a while to achieve that I don't think 9KZIcKpURjA-01539-00360539-00360868 it's as simple as a policy change I know 9KZIcKpURjA-01540-00360869-00361153 I was working for the hva when the 9KZIcKpURjA-01541-00361154-00361327 decisions were made to release pen 9KZIcKpURjA-01542-00361328-00361608 projects for example I also know that 9KZIcKpURjA-01543-00361609-00362056 when when that was first explored the 9KZIcKpURjA-01544-00362057-00362188 impact of allowing because originally 9KZIcKpURjA-01545-00362189-00362448 the pen port rates and they and the 9KZIcKpURjA-01546-00362449-00362662 messages that he was just talking about 9KZIcKpURjA-01547-00362663-00362977 were only released to children but then 9KZIcKpURjA-01548-00362978-00363112 it was they were made available to the 9KZIcKpURjA-01549-00363113-00363304 parents of donor conceived children with 9KZIcKpURjA-01550-00363305-00363553 the idea that they could use those to to 9KZIcKpURjA-01551-00363554-00363718 build a story with the donor conceived 9KZIcKpURjA-01552-00363719-00364006 child about their about their donor but 9KZIcKpURjA-01553-00364007-00364231 it was clear that the message is 9KZIcKpURjA-01554-00364232-00364468 sometimes given the advent and the 9KZIcKpURjA-01555-00364469-00364651 progress made by social media could 9KZIcKpURjA-01556-00364652-00364780 sometimes lead to donors being 9KZIcKpURjA-01557-00364781-00365146 identified so I think it's it's going to 9KZIcKpURjA-01558-00365147-00365299 be difficult I don't that means we 9KZIcKpURjA-01559-00365300-00365449 shouldn't do it we should impress with 9KZIcKpURjA-01560-00365450-00365566 those changes but I think it would 9KZIcKpURjA-01561-00365567-00365847 require a change 9KZIcKpURjA-01562-00365848-00366169 thank you Petra yeah so I haven't sort 9KZIcKpURjA-01563-00366170-00366540 of formed a fully formed sort of a 9KZIcKpURjA-01564-00366541-00366748 difficulty and I kind of hate myself for 9KZIcKpURjA-01565-00366749-00366892 saying this but the difficulty that I 9KZIcKpURjA-01566-00366893-00367048 can imagine is that the law at the 9KZIcKpURjA-01567-00367049-00367225 moment seems to be coming so very much 9KZIcKpURjA-01568-00367226-00367660 from the point of view of offering 9KZIcKpURjA-01569-00367661-00367981 children the rights to make choices and 9KZIcKpURjA-01570-00367982-00368191 the emphasis is so much on the donor 9KZIcKpURjA-01571-00368192-00368389 conceived child and it's very much a 9KZIcKpURjA-01572-00368390-00368755 sort of almost that child is is imagined 9KZIcKpURjA-01573-00368756-00368953 in a sort of dyadic relationship with 9KZIcKpURjA-01574-00368954-00369133 the donor and finding information about 9KZIcKpURjA-01575-00369134-00369322 the donor and it seems to me like what 9KZIcKpURjA-01576-00369323-00369466 we're talking about it's almost a sort 9KZIcKpURjA-01577-00369467-00369823 of wholesale shift in how donation is 9KZIcKpURjA-01578-00369824-00370123 considered in law and stepping away from 9KZIcKpURjA-01579-00370124-00370429 that emphasis on children's needs that 9KZIcKpURjA-01580-00370430-00370921 so much in this law is doing to sort of 9KZIcKpURjA-01581-00370922-00371047 recognizing they were talking about 9KZIcKpURjA-01582-00371048-00371227 networks that this isn't the dyadic 9KZIcKpURjA-01583-00371228-00371371 relationship actually other people are 9KZIcKpURjA-01584-00371372-00371680 also involved and I suppose as part of 9KZIcKpURjA-01585-00371681-00371818 that the difficulty might be that a 9KZIcKpURjA-01586-00371819-00372010 recipient might well want to find out 9KZIcKpURjA-01587-00372011-00372274 information about the donor whilst also 9KZIcKpURjA-01588-00372275-00372505 keeping the donation secret to their 9KZIcKpURjA-01589-00372506-00372810 child so they can because I can imagine 9KZIcKpURjA-01590-00372811-00373069 secrets along the way new kinds of 9KZIcKpURjA-01591-00373070-00373495 secrets potentially that yes so I just 9KZIcKpURjA-01592-00373496-00373606 want to kind of throw that out there 9KZIcKpURjA-01593-00373607-00373783 it's something that I don't have an 9KZIcKpURjA-01594-00373784-00374005 answer for this I just sort of thinks 9KZIcKpURjA-01595-00374006-00374554 that I imagine might come our way I mean 9KZIcKpURjA-01596-00374555-00374782 I just yeah thanks I wondered if I could 9KZIcKpURjA-01597-00374783-00374956 come in and I just thought and this is 9KZIcKpURjA-01598-00374957-00375295 sort of thinking as we go around again 9KZIcKpURjA-01599-00375296-00375616 it sort of well-thought-out suggestion I 9KZIcKpURjA-01600-00375617-00375883 suppose but I was thinking about often a 9KZIcKpURjA-01601-00375884-00376339 lot of the session are you thinking 9KZIcKpURjA-01602-00376340-00376471 about you know maybe a kabbalah teri 9KZIcKpURjA-01603-00376472-00376615 contact register and i think these are a 9KZIcKpURjA-01604-00376616-00376813 good suggestion and but they're kind of 9KZIcKpURjA-01605-00376814-00376966 like adding something on to the current 9KZIcKpURjA-01606-00376967-00377113 system that we have which is that donors 9KZIcKpURjA-01607-00377114-00377293 recipient set up a clinic on their own 9KZIcKpURjA-01608-00377294-00377449 and then they might make the links after 9KZIcKpURjA-01609-00377450-00377623 the relation whereas i wonder whether 9KZIcKpURjA-01610-00377624-00377836 the model that's happening outside of 9KZIcKpURjA-01611-00377837-00378070 clinics it can actually be helpful in 9KZIcKpURjA-01612-00378071-00378262 thinking about how we can do this kind 9KZIcKpURjA-01613-00378263-00378541 of thing whereby donors and recipients 9KZIcKpURjA-01614-00378542-00378889 are finding each other outside of the 9KZIcKpURjA-01615-00378890-00379099 clinic and then obviously a lot of those 9KZIcKpURjA-01616-00379100-00379261 patient's case cases with their 9KZIcKpURjA-01617-00379262-00379476 information we never go to the clinic 9KZIcKpURjA-01618-00379477-00379732 but it could they could and there could 9KZIcKpURjA-01619-00379733-00379891 be some way of bringing them in without 9KZIcKpURjA-01620-00379892-00380083 it being incredibly expensive and all 9KZIcKpURjA-01621-00380084-00380251 the rest of it but also there are egg 9KZIcKpURjA-01622-00380252-00380413 donors who've go down that route and 9KZIcKpURjA-01623-00380414-00380646 then present a clinic has been known a 9KZIcKpURjA-01624-00380647-00381049 known donor recipient couple like you 9KZIcKpURjA-01625-00381050-00381226 know people who were doing this together 9KZIcKpURjA-01626-00381227-00381648 and and i just wondered if that might 9KZIcKpURjA-01627-00381649-00381859 that people could you could you could 9KZIcKpURjA-01628-00381860-00381991 still protectively have donors coming to 9KZIcKpURjA-01629-00381992-00382144 a clinic saying i want to donate and 9KZIcKpURjA-01630-00382145-00382729 then there it may be then way a way of 9KZIcKpURjA-01631-00382730-00383014 directing muddle and but i wonder if 9KZIcKpURjA-01632-00383015-00383131 there's some way that you can kind of 9KZIcKpURjA-01633-00383132-00383412 bring that approach in and it then 9KZIcKpURjA-01634-00383413-00383647 actually doesn't require a changing the 9KZIcKpURjA-01635-00383648-00383797 law because there you're not 9KZIcKpURjA-01636-00383798-00384079 giving any information it's your your 9KZIcKpURjA-01637-00384080-00384250 your letting that connection be set up 9KZIcKpURjA-01638-00384251-00384502 in advance I think that doesn't require 9KZIcKpURjA-01639-00384503-00384640 the lane change of them all as I 9KZIcKpURjA-01640-00384641-00384933 understand anyway yeah remember with 9KZIcKpURjA-01641-00384934-00385051 other members of the panel lights 9KZIcKpURjA-01642-00385052-00385235 comment on that Natalie you're unmuted 9KZIcKpURjA-01643-00385236-00385525 yeah no I was just gonna say I think 9KZIcKpURjA-01644-00385526-00385642 there's also a kind of practical 9KZIcKpURjA-01645-00385643-00385903 question about the fact that the least 9KZIcKpURjA-01646-00385904-00386104 kind of new genetic websites like 9KZIcKpURjA-01647-00386105-00386299 23andme and so on that we're hearing 9KZIcKpURjA-01648-00386300-00386545 about already now people are making 9KZIcKpURjA-01649-00386546-00386725 connections with donors and donor 9KZIcKpURjA-01650-00386726-00386905 conceived siblings and you know 9KZIcKpURjA-01651-00386906-00387055 sometimes not even directly with the 9KZIcKpURjA-01652-00387056-00387193 people involved but by our other 9KZIcKpURjA-01653-00387194-00387496 relatives so you know that the ways of 9KZIcKpURjA-01654-00387497-00387643 people finding each other and finding 9KZIcKpURjA-01655-00387644-00387880 this information is out there and it's 9KZIcKpURjA-01656-00387881-00388093 growing very very fast and I think it's 9KZIcKpURjA-01657-00388094-00388321 not going to be very many years before 9KZIcKpURjA-01658-00388322-00388489 people can you know they don't have to 9KZIcKpURjA-01659-00388490-00388651 worry about the regulated system at all 9KZIcKpURjA-01660-00388652-00388782 they'll be able to find each other 9KZIcKpURjA-01661-00388783-00389053 completely independently so I guess the 9KZIcKpURjA-01662-00389054-00389293 question is you know whether we want to 9KZIcKpURjA-01663-00389294-00389521 provide a regulated system in order to 9KZIcKpURjA-01664-00389522-00389695 make sure that things are done in a more 9KZIcKpURjA-01665-00389696-00389893 sensible way and that people have access 9KZIcKpURjA-01666-00389894-00390124 to counseling if they need it that you 9KZIcKpURjA-01667-00390125-00390262 know approaches are made you know 9KZIcKpURjA-01668-00390263-00390487 sensitively as possible 9KZIcKpURjA-01669-00390488-00390745 and so I think you know we have to be 9KZIcKpURjA-01670-00390746-00390906 careful about not getting too bogged 9KZIcKpURjA-01671-00390907-00391096 down and you know what's law and what's 9KZIcKpURjA-01672-00391097-00391318 policy and how it needs to be done and 9KZIcKpURjA-01673-00391319-00391480 making sure that we're kind of keeping 9KZIcKpURjA-01674-00391481-00391631 pace with what's happening anyway 9KZIcKpURjA-01675-00391632-00391900 because I think you know these this 9KZIcKpURjA-01676-00391901-00392092 information sharing is going to happen 9KZIcKpURjA-01677-00392093-00392307 and it's really about do we provide an 9KZIcKpURjA-01678-00392308-00392449 alternative that's that kind of 9KZIcKpURjA-01679-00392450-00392658 regulated kind of sensible way of 9KZIcKpURjA-01680-00392659-00393019 managing it and I think there's the HFA 9KZIcKpURjA-01681-00393020-00393223 and clinics are very reluctant to make 9KZIcKpURjA-01682-00393224-00393432 changes some of the changes can be done 9KZIcKpURjA-01683-00393433-00393580 through policy they don't require law 9KZIcKpURjA-01684-00393581-00393807 change but even if they do require a law 9KZIcKpURjA-01685-00393808-00393988 change I think you know it has to be a 9KZIcKpURjA-01686-00393989-00394162 priority if we need to keep up with 9KZIcKpURjA-01687-00394163-00394650 what's going on in the world anyway I 9KZIcKpURjA-01688-00394651-00395023 think I absolutely agree with that 100% 9KZIcKpURjA-01689-00395024-00395368 yeah I think certainly our participation 9KZIcKpURjA-01690-00395369-00395634 in events like this makes us recognize 9KZIcKpURjA-01691-00395635-00395953 and see where change is needed and I 9KZIcKpURjA-01692-00395954-00396180 think Selina and I would be open to sort 9KZIcKpURjA-01693-00396181-00396337 of going back and sharing this with 9KZIcKpURjA-01694-00396338-00396544 whether with our colleagues and and 9KZIcKpURjA-01695-00396545-00396670 making sure we take that into account 9KZIcKpURjA-01696-00396671-00396898 but you're absolutely right we know when 9KZIcKpURjA-01697-00396899-00397147 we talked about patients are sorry I 9KZIcKpURjA-01698-00397148-00397183 don't 9KZIcKpURjA-01699-00397184-00397466 and our patients about the ability to 9KZIcKpURjA-01700-00397467-00397660 trace people through genetic testing so 9KZIcKpURjA-01701-00397661-00397906 we know that that's happening we we talk 9KZIcKpURjA-01702-00397907-00398146 to people about it I think for me the 9KZIcKpURjA-01703-00398147-00398371 hardest thing about that because it 9KZIcKpURjA-01704-00398372-00398612 feels really big Eiling doesn't it as 9KZIcKpURjA-01705-00398613-00398827 Leah said to imagine actually because 9KZIcKpURjA-01706-00398828-00399004 you know how a slow with the law change 9KZIcKpURjA-01707-00399005-00399188 would be even if they agreed to it today 9KZIcKpURjA-01708-00399189-00399539 would take as ages but it feels really 9KZIcKpURjA-01709-00399540-00399673 beguiling to think actually you know 9KZIcKpURjA-01710-00399674-00399866 what we don't need them to do this if if 9KZIcKpURjA-01711-00399867-00400070 someone is motivated and wants to they 9KZIcKpURjA-01712-00400071-00400306 can find out they can make those links 9KZIcKpURjA-01713-00400307-00400576 probably but at the same time you've 9KZIcKpURjA-01714-00400577-00400763 still got people who maybe don't want to 9KZIcKpURjA-01715-00400764-00400975 you know we within the cohort the people 9KZIcKpURjA-01716-00400976-00401162 that probably engage I don't know 9KZIcKpURjA-01717-00401163-00401414 they're in Petra might have a sense of 9KZIcKpURjA-01718-00401415-00401674 this you know very engaged donors are 9KZIcKpURjA-01719-00401675-00401806 are they more likely to have engaged 9KZIcKpURjA-01720-00401807-00402049 with this study and and participated so 9KZIcKpURjA-01721-00402050-00402239 are we saying a set of views from those 9KZIcKpURjA-01722-00402240-00402406 people who who would like more 9KZIcKpURjA-01723-00402407-00402620 information who are really keen and feel 9KZIcKpURjA-01724-00402621-00402893 that special connection all right is 9KZIcKpURjA-01725-00402894-00403102 there a cohort of people out there who 9KZIcKpURjA-01726-00403103-00403268 wouldn't want someone to connect them 9KZIcKpURjA-01727-00403269-00403429 and who connect with them and would be 9KZIcKpURjA-01728-00403430-00403753 truly horrified if it happened and how 9KZIcKpURjA-01729-00403754-00403960 how do we balance all those different 9KZIcKpURjA-01730-00403961-00404182 needs and I'm not saying I just don't 9KZIcKpURjA-01731-00404183-00404350 even they don't know and I know we as 9KZIcKpURjA-01732-00404351-00404533 I'm sure Selena and I will go back and 9KZIcKpURjA-01733-00404534-00404762 think or crikey what do we need to do 9KZIcKpURjA-01734-00404763-00405034 differently but I think there's a 9KZIcKpURjA-01735-00405035-00405154 there's a big difference isn't there 9KZIcKpURjA-01736-00405155-00405307 between information being shared with 9KZIcKpURjA-01737-00405308-00405566 consent and you know imposing a change 9KZIcKpURjA-01738-00405567-00405767 in the rules on people where they don't 9KZIcKpURjA-01739-00405768-00405941 have a say in that so you know changing 9KZIcKpURjA-01740-00405942-00406225 the law in 2005 to require donors to be 9KZIcKpURjA-01741-00406226-00406432 identifiable so they no longer have the 9KZIcKpURjA-01742-00406433-00406637 option of being anonymous was an 9KZIcKpURjA-01743-00406638-00406858 imposition whereas if you've got a donor 9KZIcKpURjA-01744-00406859-00406984 saying I'd like you to pass this 9KZIcKpURjA-01745-00406985-00407152 information on and the recipients say 9KZIcKpURjA-01746-00407153-00407371 I'd like to receive it I think sometimes 9KZIcKpURjA-01747-00407372-00407537 we get too hung up on the 9KZIcKpURjA-01748-00407538-00407752 confidentiality overriding what people 9KZIcKpURjA-01749-00407753-00407956 actually want so I think kind of being 9KZIcKpURjA-01750-00407957-00408148 very clear about well what can we do if 9KZIcKpURjA-01751-00408149-00408277 people individually want more 9KZIcKpURjA-01752-00408278-00408520 information and you know what's what's 9KZIcKpURjA-01753-00408521-00408721 permitted it's a separate question 9KZIcKpURjA-01754-00408722-00408949 almost - you know what rights should the 9KZIcKpURjA-01755-00408950-00409129 law impose and that is going to take 9KZIcKpURjA-01756-00409130-00409313 longer and require more effort to change 9KZIcKpURjA-01757-00409314-00409651 yeah I find the model the idea of having 9KZIcKpURjA-01758-00409652-00409862 different you know you get to choose 9KZIcKpURjA-01759-00409863-00410014 you could still choose to be an 9KZIcKpURjA-01760-00410015-00410228 anonymous donor if you wanted to or you 9KZIcKpURjA-01761-00410229-00410374 could choose to be an identity released 9KZIcKpURjA-01762-00410375-00410608 donor or identity reduce donor plus 9KZIcKpURjA-01763-00410609-00410897 who who wants to contact us I find I 9KZIcKpURjA-01764-00410897-00411137 would find that a really amazing system 9KZIcKpURjA-01765-00411138-00411247 and I don't think it would be that 9KZIcKpURjA-01766-00411248-00411649 difficult to to operate actually thank 9KZIcKpURjA-01767-00411650-00411689 you 9KZIcKpURjA-01768-00411689-00411991 we're we're out of time as it happens 9KZIcKpURjA-01769-00411992-00412243 I'm just wondering I have I haven't 9KZIcKpURjA-01770-00412244-00412384 warned them I'm going to do this but I 9KZIcKpURjA-01771-00412385-00412616 wonder if Petra or Leah or both of you 9KZIcKpURjA-01772-00412617-00412855 would like to make some closing kind of 9KZIcKpURjA-01773-00412856-00413035 comment on the basis of some of the 9KZIcKpURjA-01774-00413036-00413224 discussion that's been had the business 9KZIcKpURjA-01775-00413225-00413512 there's been so much so many interesting 9KZIcKpURjA-01776-00413513-00413782 ideas discussed and raised and there's 9KZIcKpURjA-01777-00413783-00413926 lots more on the chat that we haven't 9KZIcKpURjA-01778-00413927-00414106 been able to include but I wonder if I 9KZIcKpURjA-01779-00414107-00414337 could just ask one or both of you to 9KZIcKpURjA-01780-00414338-00414751 just make a closing comment absolutely 9KZIcKpURjA-01781-00414752-00414989 thank you Jennifer and thanks everyone 9KZIcKpURjA-01782-00414989-00415205 for your comments I can't I say Kinnaman 9KZIcKpURjA-01783-00415206-00415316 I haven't been able to keep up with 9KZIcKpURjA-01784-00415317-00415547 everything on the chat but I we're going 9KZIcKpURjA-01785-00415547-00415756 to copy it so that I can after and see 9KZIcKpURjA-01786-00415757-00416012 what's been going on and it's really 9KZIcKpURjA-01787-00416013-00416147 delightful to have you all here and 9KZIcKpURjA-01788-00416147-00416347 engaging with you I just wish we were in 9KZIcKpURjA-01789-00416348-00416482 the same room so we could actually have 9KZIcKpURjA-01790-00416483-00416755 more of these conversations I find it 9KZIcKpURjA-01791-00416756-00416978 incredibly interesting to hear not being 9KZIcKpURjA-01792-00416979-00417331 a lawyer or you know a legal person at 9KZIcKpURjA-01793-00417332-00417493 all myself it's really interesting to 9KZIcKpURjA-01794-00417494-00417764 hear to talk to people policymakers as 9KZIcKpURjA-01795-00417764-00418024 all people working much closer to policy 9KZIcKpURjA-01796-00418025-00418205 them than I do and the we tend to do a 9KZIcKpURjA-01797-00418206-00418537 sociologist to see the sort of to 9KZIcKpURjA-01798-00418538-00418691 understand much better about the sort of 9KZIcKpURjA-01799-00418692-00419051 the the the ramifications and the sort 9KZIcKpURjA-01800-00419052-00419168 of the difficulties as well as the 9KZIcKpURjA-01801-00419168-00419395 opportunities that exist within the 9KZIcKpURjA-01802-00419396-00419518 current set up so I'm really grateful 9KZIcKpURjA-01803-00419519-00419812 for the panel for for having this 9KZIcKpURjA-01804-00419813-00420095 conversation just now and I want to say 9KZIcKpURjA-01805-00420096-00420275 thank you very much to all the speakers 9KZIcKpURjA-01806-00420276-00420554 have joined us and I'm really hopeful 9KZIcKpURjA-01807-00420555-00420710 that one day we will be able to meet and 9KZIcKpURjA-01808-00420710-00420883 we'll be able to have the event that was 9KZIcKpURjA-01809-00420884-00421039 originally planned with people from 9KZIcKpURjA-01810-00421040-00421304 overseas and so on and hopefully one day 9KZIcKpURjA-01811-00421305-00421445 we will be able to do that but thank you 9KZIcKpURjA-01812-00421446-00421652 very much and to everyone who joined us 9KZIcKpURjA-01813-00421653-00421968 today speakers as well as participants 9KZIcKpURjA-01814-00421969-00422164 right thank you 9KZIcKpURjA-01815-00422165-00422630 and before everybody goes can i Leah did 9KZIcKpURjA-01816-00422631-00423620 you want to say anything Ashley really 9KZIcKpURjA-01817-00423621-00423743 fascinating well your questions and 9KZIcKpURjA-01818-00423743-00423851 actually it's been interesting to see 9KZIcKpURjA-01819-00423852-00423997 how much that we actually 9KZIcKpURjA-01820-00423999-00424184 Breann as well as you know lots of ideas 9KZIcKpURjA-01821-00424185-00424541 and provoking discuss been lots of lots 9KZIcKpURjA-01822-00424542-00424714 of agreement as well which has been yeah 9KZIcKpURjA-01823-00424716-00425084 great thank you lovely thank you well 9KZIcKpURjA-01824-00425085-00425252 before you all go I did just want to 9KZIcKpURjA-01825-00425253-00425468 thank all of the speakers and the panel 9KZIcKpURjA-01826-00425468-00425828 members and and to Petra and mayor for 9KZIcKpURjA-01827-00425829-00426014 putting together such a great event and 9KZIcKpURjA-01828-00426014-00426170 also such a great panel because it's 9KZIcKpURjA-01829-00426171-00426310 been really fascinating to hear that 9KZIcKpURjA-01830-00426312-00426614 hear the different perspectives and also 9KZIcKpURjA-01831-00426614-00426782 as I said at the beginning to our media 9KZIcKpURjA-01832-00426783-00427004 services people for making it happen a 9KZIcKpURjA-01833-00427005-00427193 big THANK YOU to Christine Turner for 9KZIcKpURjA-01834-00427193-00427547 making the organizational thing happen 9KZIcKpURjA-01835-00427547-00427745 so thank you everybody and thank you for 9KZIcKpURjA-01836-00427746-00427897 your questions and your chat and your 9KZIcKpURjA-01837-00427899-00428051 comments which have been been 9KZIcKpURjA-01838-00428052-00428218 fascinating and as Petra says they will 9KZIcKpURjA-01839-00428220-00428372 be looked at in more detail because it 9KZIcKpURjA-01840-00428372-00428612 all happens so quickly on zoom I think 9KZIcKpURjA-01841-00428613-00428764 that's everything that there is to say 9KZIcKpURjA-01842-00428766-00429059 except thank you everybody I hope you 9KZIcKpURjA-01843-00429060-00429554 enjoyed it as much as I did and goodbye 9LcvTYERPQu-00000-00000048-00000199 good afternoon my name is juan from 9LcvTYERPQu-00001-00000200-00000318 reinsburg 9LcvTYERPQu-00002-00000319-00000671 and i am hanali from dainsbury 9LcvTYERPQu-00003-00000672-00000871 and this video is all about good friends 9LcvTYERPQu-00004-00000872-00001054 of ours john and elsa victoria and this 9LcvTYERPQu-00005-00001055-00001143 son dick 9LcvTYERPQu-00006-00001144-00001391 who has been part of our family for the 9LcvTYERPQu-00007-00001392-00001599 last 30 years actually since we moved to 9LcvTYERPQu-00008-00001600-00001743 tabazinbi 9LcvTYERPQu-00009-00001744-00001895 they became very good friends of ours 9LcvTYERPQu-00010-00001896-00002126 and also very good support structure 9LcvTYERPQu-00011-00002127-00002471 me as somebody in education 9LcvTYERPQu-00012-00002472-00002671 had a lot of things to do for the school 9LcvTYERPQu-00013-00002672-00002879 with kids of other people 9LcvTYERPQu-00014-00002880-00003063 and a lot of times i was not available 9LcvTYERPQu-00015-00003064-00003183 at home to 9LcvTYERPQu-00016-00003184-00003438 see to it that the needs of my wife as 9LcvTYERPQu-00017-00003439-00003535 well as my 9LcvTYERPQu-00018-00003536-00003838 child is giving attention to so i also 9LcvTYERPQu-00019-00003839-00003927 was the one 9LcvTYERPQu-00020-00003928-00004103 who was always there with a car 9LcvTYERPQu-00021-00004104-00004327 available to take my wife to pretoria 9LcvTYERPQu-00022-00004328-00004470 for doctors 9LcvTYERPQu-00023-00004471-00004654 appointments and those kind of things 9LcvTYERPQu-00024-00004655-00004775 only one 9LcvTYERPQu-00025-00004776-00005038 a guy who i spend a lot of time with 9LcvTYERPQu-00026-00005039-00005135 talking politics 9LcvTYERPQu-00027-00005136-00005391 talking rugby and something that i 9LcvTYERPQu-00028-00005392-00005527 always remember of him 9LcvTYERPQu-00029-00005528-00005686 he's the one who taught me to always 9LcvTYERPQu-00030-00005687-00005943 stay positive no matter whatever 9LcvTYERPQu-00031-00005944-00006199 your situation may be in you you may be 9LcvTYERPQu-00032-00006200-00006247 in 9LcvTYERPQu-00033-00006248-00006439 at some stage in life things will turn 9LcvTYERPQu-00034-00006440-00006567 around and things will get 9LcvTYERPQu-00035-00006568-00006887 better and they are very close to our 9LcvTYERPQu-00036-00006888-00007078 hearts 9LcvTYERPQu-00037-00007079-00007383 um elsa i've got more to do with elsa 9LcvTYERPQu-00038-00007384-00007670 although we spent a lot of time together 9LcvTYERPQu-00039-00007672-00007703 as 9LcvTYERPQu-00040-00007704-00008127 families um but elsa and me 9LcvTYERPQu-00041-00008128-00008527 we are as everybody would call it 9LcvTYERPQu-00042-00008528-00008871 bffs we know 9LcvTYERPQu-00043-00008872-00009183 everything about each other and 9LcvTYERPQu-00044-00009184-00009631 our preferences we can actually 9LcvTYERPQu-00045-00009632-00009959 do things without even asking was saying 9LcvTYERPQu-00046-00009960-00010087 we just know 9LcvTYERPQu-00047-00010088-00010303 this is what i want and this is what she 9LcvTYERPQu-00048-00010304-00010535 wants and without words we 9LcvTYERPQu-00049-00010536-00010831 can communicate like that um because of 9LcvTYERPQu-00050-00010832-00010959 my disability 9LcvTYERPQu-00051-00010960-00011283 i relied a lot on elsa 9LcvTYERPQu-00052-00011284-00011751 during our irish line functions 9LcvTYERPQu-00053-00011752-00012103 um we got to meet through the functions 9LcvTYERPQu-00054-00012104-00012431 and become friends from there and um 9LcvTYERPQu-00055-00012432-00012919 yes so i really relied a lot about honor 9LcvTYERPQu-00056-00012919-00013222 because of this and the roles i had to 9LcvTYERPQu-00057-00013223-00013279 play 9LcvTYERPQu-00058-00013280-00013607 and um things i had to do she was my 9LcvTYERPQu-00059-00013608-00013758 number one 9LcvTYERPQu-00060-00013759-00014247 and um yes uh also 9LcvTYERPQu-00061-00014247-00014607 as a girl 9LcvTYERPQu-00062-00014608-00014911 or a woman in town 9LcvTYERPQu-00063-00014912-00015215 is um everybody knows her 9LcvTYERPQu-00064-00015216-00015638 everybody knows her good heart 9LcvTYERPQu-00065-00015640-00015935 everybody knows you can just ask and 9LcvTYERPQu-00066-00015936-00015975 she's 9LcvTYERPQu-00067-00015976-00016350 there and sometimes you don't even have 9LcvTYERPQu-00068-00016351-00016439 to ask 9LcvTYERPQu-00069-00016440-00016750 she'll just reach up and say here i am i 9LcvTYERPQu-00070-00016751-00017111 am here to help and um 9LcvTYERPQu-00071-00017112-00017486 yes in a few years ago 9LcvTYERPQu-00072-00017487-00017791 um hi husband jian 9LcvTYERPQu-00073-00017792-00018207 he got 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9LcvTYERPQu-00090-00023351-00023719 on your own and that is 9LcvTYERPQu-00091-00023720-00024119 a vehicle and code i currently have 9LcvTYERPQu-00092-00024120-00024430 is very old and it's 9LcvTYERPQu-00093-00024431-00024791 it needs a lot of attention in fact 9LcvTYERPQu-00094-00024792-00025086 i would not even spend money on i'm 9LcvTYERPQu-00095-00025087-00025303 trying to fix a goal 9LcvTYERPQu-00096-00025304-00025750 our goal with this um backup buddy 9LcvTYERPQu-00097-00025751-00026094 is to try and see 9LcvTYERPQu-00098-00026095-00026495 if it will be possible to 9LcvTYERPQu-00099-00026495-00026839 get enough money sponsored 9LcvTYERPQu-00100-00026839-00027287 so that um we can buy her a brand new 9LcvTYERPQu-00101-00027288-00027695 little car and 9LcvTYERPQu-00102-00027695-00028039 her son dirk lives in victoria 9LcvTYERPQu-00103-00028039-00028351 she's got two grandkids and she lives 9LcvTYERPQu-00104-00028352-00028543 here in tow zombie 9LcvTYERPQu-00105-00028544-00028799 and this is about how many kilometers 9LcvTYERPQu-00106-00028800-00028902 aboard 9LcvTYERPQu-00107-00028904-00029279 220 at least yeah so it's about 220 at 9LcvTYERPQu-00108-00029280-00029502 least that she's got to cover 9LcvTYERPQu-00109-00029504-00029831 if she needs to see her child 9LcvTYERPQu-00110-00029832-00030183 the children or the grandkids she lives 9LcvTYERPQu-00111-00030183-00030670 in an old age 9LcvTYERPQu-00112-00030672-00031031 or a retirement village sort of thing 9LcvTYERPQu-00113-00031032-00031327 and um it's the houses are very small so 9LcvTYERPQu-00114-00031327-00031487 there's not a lot of place 9LcvTYERPQu-00115-00031488-00031670 for the kids to come and visit so she 9LcvTYERPQu-00116-00031672-00031879 will be the one that needs to do the 9LcvTYERPQu-00117-00031880-00032007 traveling 9LcvTYERPQu-00118-00032008-00032231 and as she's currently working she also 9LcvTYERPQu-00119-00032232-00032495 needs a call to get to work 9LcvTYERPQu-00120-00032495-00032871 so yes this is basically what 9LcvTYERPQu-00121-00032872-00033351 our hearts desire is is to be able to 9LcvTYERPQu-00122-00033352-00033543 get enough money 9LcvTYERPQu-00123-00033544-00033727 [Music] 9LcvTYERPQu-00124-00033728-00034031 to get a brand new goal 9LcvTYERPQu-00125-00034032-00034174 i think if these people are really 9LcvTYERPQu-00126-00034175-00034335 deserving of that somebody's deserving 9LcvTYERPQu-00127-00034336-00034415 of that 9LcvTYERPQu-00128-00034416-00034790 salsa this will also 9LcvTYERPQu-00129-00034791-00035223 give an opportunity to be totally 9LcvTYERPQu-00130-00035224-00035495 free not having to go to look at other 9LcvTYERPQu-00131-00035496-00035535 people 9LcvTYERPQu-00132-00035536-00035687 or look into other people's eyes for 9LcvTYERPQu-00133-00035688-00035935 support um 9LcvTYERPQu-00134-00035936-00036062 and i think at the end of the day if you 9LcvTYERPQu-00135-00036063-00036351 can reach this goal it will mean a lot 9LcvTYERPQu-00136-00036352-00036662 to her but also versus a friend uh 9LcvTYERPQu-00137-00036663-00036999 just to give her back something in life 9LcvTYERPQu-00138-00037000-00037287 which will enable her to do whatever she 9LcvTYERPQu-00139-00037288-00037439 needs to do when he wish me 9LcvTYERPQu-00140-00037440-00037911 to do that yes i think it will 9LcvTYERPQu-00141-00037912-00038239 change her life completely 9LcvTYERPQu-00142-00038240-00038495 to be able to have a brand new vehicle 9LcvTYERPQu-00143-00038496-00038671 and god 9LcvTYERPQu-00144-00038672-00039015 so yes please ladies and gentlemen 9LcvTYERPQu-00145-00039016-00039335 we do not know who you are but we are 9LcvTYERPQu-00146-00039336-00039607 asking you to open your pockets 9LcvTYERPQu-00147-00039608-00039935 and donate as much as you can 9LcvTYERPQu-00148-00039936-00040143 send this link to everybody that you 9LcvTYERPQu-00149-00040144-00040287 know and 9LcvTYERPQu-00150-00040288-00040727 help us to get ourselves a new goal 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9dbMnXtEBD8-00044-00011360-00011578 demand side has any incentive to demand 9dbMnXtEBD8-00045-00011579-00011789 more or less at the prevailing price 9dbMnXtEBD8-00046-00011790-00012058 likewise supply is determined by firms 9dbMnXtEBD8-00047-00012059-00012262 maximizing their profits at the market 9dbMnXtEBD8-00048-00012263-00012460 price no firm will want to supply any 9dbMnXtEBD8-00049-00012461-00012663 more or less at the equilibrium price 9dbMnXtEBD8-00050-00012664-00012940 hence agents on neither the demand side 9dbMnXtEBD8-00051-00012941-00013113 nor the supply side will have any 9dbMnXtEBD8-00052-00013115-00013413 incentive to alter their actions to see 9dbMnXtEBD8-00053-00013415-00013618 whether property p3 is satisfied 9dbMnXtEBD8-00054-00013619-00013822 consider what happens when the price is 9dbMnXtEBD8-00055-00013822-00014080 above the equilibrium in this case there 9dbMnXtEBD8-00056-00014081-00014269 is an excess supply with the quantity 9dbMnXtEBD8-00057-00014269-00014512 supplied exceeding that demanded this 9dbMnXtEBD8-00058-00014513-00014674 will tend to put downward pressure on 9dbMnXtEBD8-00059-00014675-00014824 the price to make it return to 9dbMnXtEBD8-00060-00014825-00014913 equilibrium 9dbMnXtEBD8-00061-00014913-00015136 likewise where the price is below the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00062-00015137-00015340 equilibrium point there is a shortage in 9dbMnXtEBD8-00063-00015341-00015556 supply leading to an increase in prices 9dbMnXtEBD8-00064-00015557-00015663 back to equilibrium 9dbMnXtEBD8-00065-00015665-00016044 not all equilibria are stable in the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00066-00016045-00016336 sense of equilibrium property p3 it is 9dbMnXtEBD8-00067-00016337-00016546 possible to have competitive equilibria 9dbMnXtEBD8-00068-00016547-00016774 that are unstable however if an 9dbMnXtEBD8-00069-00016775-00016996 equilibrium is unstable it raises the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00070-00016997-00017244 question of how you might get there even 9dbMnXtEBD8-00071-00017245-00017560 if it satisfies properties p1 and p2 the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00072-00017561-00017785 absence of p3 means that the market can 9dbMnXtEBD8-00073-00017786-00017997 only be in the unstable equilibrium if 9dbMnXtEBD8-00074-00017998-00018289 it starts off there in most simple 9dbMnXtEBD8-00075-00018290-00018496 microeconomics stories of supply and 9dbMnXtEBD8-00076-00018497-00018706 demand a static equilibrium as observed 9dbMnXtEBD8-00077-00018707-00018928 in a market however economic equilibrium 9dbMnXtEBD8-00078-00018929-00019269 can be also dynamic equilibrium may also 9dbMnXtEBD8-00079-00019270-00019552 be economy-wide or general as opposed to 9dbMnXtEBD8-00080-00019553-00019735 the partial equilibrium of a single 9dbMnXtEBD8-00081-00019736-00020005 market equilibrium can change if there 9dbMnXtEBD8-00082-00020006-00020134 is a change in demand or supply 9dbMnXtEBD8-00083-00020135-00020461 conditions for example an increase in 9dbMnXtEBD8-00084-00020462-00020650 supply will disrupt the equilibrium 9dbMnXtEBD8-00085-00020651-00020950 leading to lower prices eventually a new 9dbMnXtEBD8-00086-00020951-00021147 equilibrium will be attained in most 9dbMnXtEBD8-00087-00021148-00021391 markets then there will be no change in 9dbMnXtEBD8-00088-00021392-00021597 price or the amount of output bought and 9dbMnXtEBD8-00089-00021598-00021844 sold until there is an exogenous shift 9dbMnXtEBD8-00090-00021845-00022059 in supply or demand such as changes in 9dbMnXtEBD8-00091-00022060-00022350 technology or tastes that is there are 9dbMnXtEBD8-00092-00022351-00022533 no endogenous forces leading to the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00093-00022534-00023004 price or the quantity 9dbMnXtEBD8-00094-00023005-00023521 pick example Nash equilibrium 9dbMnXtEBD8-00095-00023522-00023776 the nash equilibrium is widely used in 9dbMnXtEBD8-00096-00023777-00023968 economics as the main alternative to 9dbMnXtEBD8-00097-00023969-00024223 competitive equilibrium it is used 9dbMnXtEBD8-00098-00024224-00024424 whenever there is a strategic element to 9dbMnXtEBD8-00099-00024425-00024625 the behavior of agents enough price 9dbMnXtEBD8-00100-00024626-00024859 taking assumption of competitive 9dbMnXtEBD8-00101-00024860-00025099 equilibrium is inappropriate the first 9dbMnXtEBD8-00102-00025100-00025297 use of the Nash equilibrium was in the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00103-00025298-00025525 cournot duopoly as developed by antoine 9dbMnXtEBD8-00104-00025526-00025861 augustin cournot in his 1838 book both 9dbMnXtEBD8-00105-00025862-00026074 firms produce a homogeneous product 9dbMnXtEBD8-00106-00026075-00026251 given the total amount supplied by the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00107-00026252-00026497 two firms the single industry price is 9dbMnXtEBD8-00108-00026498-00026745 determined using the demand curve this 9dbMnXtEBD8-00109-00026747-00026956 determines the revenues of each firm the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00110-00026957-00027106 industry price times the quantity 9dbMnXtEBD8-00111-00027107-00027382 supplied by the firm the profit of each 9dbMnXtEBD8-00112-00027383-00027580 firm is then this revenue minus the cost 9dbMnXtEBD8-00113-00027581-00027889 of producing the output clearly there is 9dbMnXtEBD8-00114-00027889-00028087 a strategic interdependence between the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00115-00028088-00028369 two firms if one firm varies its output 9dbMnXtEBD8-00116-00028370-00028539 this will in turn affect the market 9dbMnXtEBD8-00117-00028541-00028744 price and so the revenue and profits of 9dbMnXtEBD8-00118-00028745-00028993 the other firm we can define the payoff 9dbMnXtEBD8-00119-00028994-00029170 function which gives the profit of each 9dbMnXtEBD8-00120-00029170-00029368 firm as a function of the two outputs 9dbMnXtEBD8-00121-00029369-00029652 chosen by the firm's cornello assumed 9dbMnXtEBD8-00122-00029654-00029860 that each firm chooses its own output to 9dbMnXtEBD8-00123-00029861-00030070 maximize its profits given the output of 9dbMnXtEBD8-00124-00030070-00030333 the other firm the Nash equilibrium 9dbMnXtEBD8-00125-00030335-00030526 occurs when both firms are producing the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00126-00030527-00030739 outputs which maximize their own profit 9dbMnXtEBD8-00127-00030739-00030942 given the output of the other firm in 9dbMnXtEBD8-00128-00030943-00031227 terms of the equilibrium properties we 9dbMnXtEBD8-00129-00031229-00031468 can see that P 2 is satisfied in a Nash 9dbMnXtEBD8-00130-00031469-00031549 equilibrium 9dbMnXtEBD8-00131-00031550-00031720 neither firm has an incentive to deviate 9dbMnXtEBD8-00132-00031720-00031924 from the Nash equilibrium given the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00133-00031925-00032176 output of the other firm P 1 is 9dbMnXtEBD8-00134-00032177-00032358 satisfied since the payoff function 9dbMnXtEBD8-00135-00032360-00032518 ensures that the market price is 9dbMnXtEBD8-00136-00032519-00032743 consistent with the output supplied and 9dbMnXtEBD8-00137-00032744-00032938 that each firm's profits equal revenue 9dbMnXtEBD8-00138-00032939-00033220 minus cost at this output is the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00139-00033221-00033463 equilibrium stable as required by P 3 9dbMnXtEBD8-00140-00033464-00033694 cournot himself argued that it was 9dbMnXtEBD8-00141-00033695-00033889 stable using the stability concept 9dbMnXtEBD8-00142-00033890-00034183 implied by best response dynamics the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00143-00034184-00034387 reaction function for each firm gives 9dbMnXtEBD8-00144-00034388-00034624 the output which maximizes profits best 9dbMnXtEBD8-00145-00034625-00034846 response in terms of output for a firm 9dbMnXtEBD8-00146-00034847-00035020 in terms of a given output of the other 9dbMnXtEBD8-00147-00035021-00035305 firm in the standard cournot model this 9dbMnXtEBD8-00148-00035306-00035503 is downward sloping if the other firm 9dbMnXtEBD8-00149-00035504-00035698 produces a higher output your best 9dbMnXtEBD8-00150-00035699-00035986 response involves producing less best 9dbMnXtEBD8-00151-00035987-00036190 response dynamics involves firms 9dbMnXtEBD8-00152-00036191-00036388 starting from some arbitrary position 9dbMnXtEBD8-00153-00036389-00036571 and then adjusting output to their best 9dbMnXtEBD8-00154-00036572-00036763 response to the previous output of the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00155-00036764-00036870 other firm 9dbMnXtEBD8-00156-00036871-00037089 so long as the reaction functions have a 9dbMnXtEBD8-00157-00037090-00037305 slope of less than minus one this will 9dbMnXtEBD8-00158-00037306-00037578 converge to the Nash equilibrium however 9dbMnXtEBD8-00159-00037579-00037791 this stability story is open to much 9dbMnXtEBD8-00160-00037792-00038106 criticism as Dixon argues the crucial 9dbMnXtEBD8-00161-00038107-00038298 weakness says that at each step the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00162-00038299-00038532 firm's behaved myopically they choose 9dbMnXtEBD8-00163-00038533-00038742 their output to maximize their current 9dbMnXtEBD8-00164-00038743-00038935 profits given the output of the other 9dbMnXtEBD8-00165-00038936-00039123 firm but ignore the fact that the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00166-00039124-00039357 process specifies that the other firm 9dbMnXtEBD8-00167-00039358-00039677 will adjust its output 9dbMnXtEBD8-00168-00039678-00039862 there are other concepts of stability 9dbMnXtEBD8-00169-00039863-00040058 that have been put forward for the Nash 9dbMnXtEBD8-00170-00040059-00040298 equilibrium evolutionary stability for 9dbMnXtEBD8-00171-00040299-00040649 example 9dbMnXtEBD8-00172-00040650-00041221 topic normative evaluation 9dbMnXtEBD8-00173-00041222-00041497 most economists eg Paul Samuelson 9dbMnXtEBD8-00174-00041498-00041701 cautioned against attaching a normative 9dbMnXtEBD8-00175-00041702-00041863 meaning value judgment to the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00176-00041864-00042157 equilibrium price for example food 9dbMnXtEBD8-00177-00042158-00042352 markets may be in equilibrium at the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00178-00042353-00042523 same time that people are starving 9dbMnXtEBD8-00179-00042524-00042685 because they cannot afford to pay the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00180-00042686-00042831 high equilibrium price 9dbMnXtEBD8-00181-00042832-00043060 indeed this occurred during the Great 9dbMnXtEBD8-00182-00043061-00043414 Famine in Ireland in 1845 to 52 where 9dbMnXtEBD8-00183-00043415-00043588 food was exported though people were 9dbMnXtEBD8-00184-00043589-00043801 starving due to the greater profits in 9dbMnXtEBD8-00185-00043802-00043996 selling to the English the equilibrium 9dbMnXtEBD8-00186-00043997-00044194 price of the Irish British market for 9dbMnXtEBD8-00187-00044195-00044395 potatoes was above the price that Irish 9dbMnXtEBD8-00188-00044396-00044581 farmers could afford and thus among 9dbMnXtEBD8-00189-00044582-00045015 other reasons they starved 9dbMnXtEBD8-00190-00045016-00045567 topic interpretations 9dbMnXtEBD8-00191-00045568-00045818 in most interpretations classical 9dbMnXtEBD8-00192-00045819-00046049 economists such as Adam Smith maintained 9dbMnXtEBD8-00193-00046050-00046215 that the free market would tend towards 9dbMnXtEBD8-00194-00046216-00046398 economic equilibrium through the price 9dbMnXtEBD8-00195-00046399-00046680 mechanism that is any excess supply 9dbMnXtEBD8-00196-00046681-00046893 market surplus or glut would lead to 9dbMnXtEBD8-00197-00046894-00047064 price cuts which decrease the quantity 9dbMnXtEBD8-00198-00047065-00047280 supplied by reducing the incentive to 9dbMnXtEBD8-00199-00047281-00047445 produce and sell the product and 9dbMnXtEBD8-00200-00047446-00047615 increase the quantity demanded by 9dbMnXtEBD8-00201-00047616-00047762 offering consumers bargains 9dbMnXtEBD8-00202-00047763-00047974 automatically abolishing the glut 9dbMnXtEBD8-00203-00047975-00048231 similarly in an unfettered market any 9dbMnXtEBD8-00204-00048232-00048443 excess demand or shortage would lead to 9dbMnXtEBD8-00205-00048444-00048662 price increases reducing the quantity 9dbMnXtEBD8-00206-00048663-00048855 demanded as customers are priced out of 9dbMnXtEBD8-00207-00048856-00049008 the market and increasing in the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00208-00049009-00049190 quantity supplied as the incentive to 9dbMnXtEBD8-00209-00049191-00049415 produce and sell a product Rises as 9dbMnXtEBD8-00210-00049416-00049674 before the disequilibrium here the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00211-00049675-00049935 shortage disappears this automatic 9dbMnXtEBD8-00212-00049936-00050202 abolition of non market clearing 9dbMnXtEBD8-00213-00050203-00050433 situations distinguishes markets from 9dbMnXtEBD8-00214-00050434-00050621 central planning schemes which often 9dbMnXtEBD8-00215-00050622-00050793 have a difficult time getting prices 9dbMnXtEBD8-00216-00050794-00050958 right and suffer from persistent 9dbMnXtEBD8-00217-00050959-00051152 shortages of goods and services this 9dbMnXtEBD8-00218-00051153-00051348 view came under attack from at least two 9dbMnXtEBD8-00219-00051349-00051641 viewpoints modern mainstream economics 9dbMnXtEBD8-00220-00051642-00051851 points to cases where equilibrium does 9dbMnXtEBD8-00221-00051852-00052050 not correspond to market clearing but 9dbMnXtEBD8-00222-00052051-00052229 instead to unemployment as with the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00223-00052230-00052428 efficiency wage hypothesis in labor 9dbMnXtEBD8-00224-00052429-00052740 economics in some ways paralel is the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00225-00052741-00052941 phenomenon of credit rationing in which 9dbMnXtEBD8-00226-00052941-00053144 banks hold interest rates load to create 9dbMnXtEBD8-00227-00053145-00053351 an excess demand for loans so they can 9dbMnXtEBD8-00228-00053352-00053591 pick and choose whom to lend to further 9dbMnXtEBD8-00229-00053592-00053841 economic equilibrium can correspond with 9dbMnXtEBD8-00230-00053841-00054041 monopolies where the monopolistic firm 9dbMnXtEBD8-00231-00054042-00054246 maintains an artificial shortage to prop 9dbMnXtEBD8-00232-00054247-00054469 up prices and to maximize profits 9dbMnXtEBD8-00233-00054470-00054767 finally Keynesian macroeconomics points 9dbMnXtEBD8-00234-00054769-00054954 to underemployment equilibrium where a 9dbMnXtEBD8-00235-00054954-00055173 surplus of labor ie cyclically 9dbMnXtEBD8-00236-00055174-00055391 unemployment Co exists for a long time 9dbMnXtEBD8-00237-00055392-00055861 with a shortage of aggregate demand 9dbMnXtEBD8-00238-00055862-00056116 topic solving for the competitive 9dbMnXtEBD8-00239-00056116-00056574 equilibrium price 9dbMnXtEBD8-00240-00056575-00056835 to find the equilibrium price one must 9dbMnXtEBD8-00241-00056836-00057027 either plot the supply and demand curves 9dbMnXtEBD8-00242-00057028-00057240 or solve for the expressions for supply 9dbMnXtEBD8-00243-00057241-00057590 and demand being equal an example may be 9dbMnXtEBD8-00244-00057591-00059171 Q as equals 125 plus 1.5 p q d equals 9dbMnXtEBD8-00245-00059172-00060036 189 minus 225 PQ s equals QD 125 plus 9dbMnXtEBD8-00246-00060037-00060429 1.5 P equals 180 nine minus two point 9dbMnXtEBD8-00247-00060429-00060692 two five P one point five plus two point 9dbMnXtEBD8-00248-00060694-00061320 two five P equals 189 - 125 P equals 189 9dbMnXtEBD8-00249-00061321-00061728 - 125 one point five plus two point two 9dbMnXtEBD8-00250-00061729-00062042 five P equals 64 three point seven five 9dbMnXtEBD8-00251-00062044-00062388 P equals 17 point zero six seven display 9dbMnXtEBD8-00252-00062389-00062604 style begin aligned at two Q underscore 9dbMnXtEBD8-00253-00062604-00063182 s and equals 125 plus one five C do t PQ 9dbMnXtEBD8-00254-00063183-00063632 underscore D and equals 189 took 2.25 CD 9dbMnXtEBD8-00255-00063633-00063927 ot P Q underscore s and equals Q 9dbMnXtEBD8-00256-00063928-00064338 underscore D 125 plus one point five CD 9dbMnXtEBD8-00257-00064339-00064941 OTP and equals 189 took 2.25 CD OTP 1.5 9dbMnXtEBD8-00258-00064941-00065589 plus 2.25 CD OTP and equals 189 - 125 9dbMnXtEBD8-00259-00065590-00066276 p + equals frac 189 - 125 1.5 plus 2.25 9dbMnXtEBD8-00260-00066277-00066687 PN equals frac 64 three point seven five 9dbMnXtEBD8-00261-00066688-00066996 P and equals 17 point zero six seven and 9dbMnXtEBD8-00262-00066997-00067215 aligned it in the diagram depicting 9dbMnXtEBD8-00263-00067216-00067431 simple set of supply and demand curves 9dbMnXtEBD8-00264-00067432-00067638 the quantity demanded and supplied at 9dbMnXtEBD8-00265-00067639-00067947 price P are equal at any price above P 9dbMnXtEBD8-00266-00067948-00068172 supply exceeds demand while at a price 9dbMnXtEBD8-00267-00068173-00068361 below P the quantity demanded exceeds 9dbMnXtEBD8-00268-00068362-00068667 that supplied in other words prices 9dbMnXtEBD8-00269-00068668-00068826 where demand and supply are out of 9dbMnXtEBD8-00270-00068827-00068967 balance are termed points of 9dbMnXtEBD8-00271-00068968-00069189 disequilibrium creating shortages and 9dbMnXtEBD8-00272-00069190-00069480 over supply changes in the conditions of 9dbMnXtEBD8-00273-00069481-00069654 demand or supply will shift the demand 9dbMnXtEBD8-00274-00069655-00069789 or supply curves 9dbMnXtEBD8-00275-00069790-00069968 this will cause change 9dbMnXtEBD8-00276-00069969-00070169 in the equilibrium price and quantity in 9dbMnXtEBD8-00277-00070170-00070451 the market consider the following demand 9dbMnXtEBD8-00278-00070452-00070665 and supply schedule the equilibrium 9dbMnXtEBD8-00279-00070666-00070922 price in the market as $5 where demand 9dbMnXtEBD8-00280-00070923-00071184 and supply are equal at 12,000 units if 9dbMnXtEBD8-00281-00071185-00071411 the current market price was $3 there 9dbMnXtEBD8-00282-00071412-00071609 would be excess demand for 8,000 units 9dbMnXtEBD8-00283-00071610-00071882 creating a shortage if the current 9dbMnXtEBD8-00284-00071883-00072072 market price was $8 there would be 9dbMnXtEBD8-00285-00072073-00072335 excess supply of 12,000 units when there 9dbMnXtEBD8-00286-00072336-00072518 is a shortage in the market we see that 9dbMnXtEBD8-00287-00072519-00072728 to correct this disequilibrium the price 9dbMnXtEBD8-00288-00072729-00072893 of the good will be increased back to a 9dbMnXtEBD8-00289-00072894-00073154 price of $5 thus lessening the quantity 9dbMnXtEBD8-00290-00073155-00073316 demanded and increasing the quantity 9dbMnXtEBD8-00291-00073317-00073503 supplied thus that the market is in 9dbMnXtEBD8-00292-00073504-00073775 balance when there is an oversupply of a 9dbMnXtEBD8-00293-00073776-00074054 good such as when prices above $6 then 9dbMnXtEBD8-00294-00074055-00074240 we see that producers will decrease the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00295-00074241-00074390 price to increase the quantity demanded 9dbMnXtEBD8-00296-00074391-00074640 for the good thus eliminating the excess 9dbMnXtEBD8-00297-00074641-00074778 and taking the market back to 9dbMnXtEBD8-00298-00074779-00075074 equilibrium topic influences changing 9dbMnXtEBD8-00299-00075075-00075309 price a change in equilibrium price may 9dbMnXtEBD8-00300-00075310-00075453 occur through a change in either the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00301-00075454-00075759 supply or demand schedules for instance 9dbMnXtEBD8-00302-00075760-00075956 starting from the above supply demand 9dbMnXtEBD8-00303-00075957-00076163 configuration an increased level of 9dbMnXtEBD8-00304-00076164-00076365 disposable income may produce a new 9dbMnXtEBD8-00305-00076366-00076565 demand schedule such as the following 9dbMnXtEBD8-00306-00076566-00076718 here we see that an increase in 9dbMnXtEBD8-00307-00076719-00076910 disposable income would increase the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00308-00076911-00077129 quantity demanded of the good by 2,000 9dbMnXtEBD8-00309-00077130-00077397 units at each price this increase in 9dbMnXtEBD8-00310-00077398-00077571 demand would have the effect of shifting 9dbMnXtEBD8-00311-00077572-00077837 the demand curve rightward the result is 9dbMnXtEBD8-00312-00077838-00078015 a change in the price at which quantity 9dbMnXtEBD8-00313-00078016-00078224 supplied equals quantity demanded in 9dbMnXtEBD8-00314-00078225-00078494 this case we see that the two now equal 9dbMnXtEBD8-00315-00078495-00078730 each other at an increased price of $6 9dbMnXtEBD8-00316-00078731-00078984 note that a decrease in disposable 9dbMnXtEBD8-00317-00078985-00079172 income would have the exact opposite 9dbMnXtEBD8-00318-00079173-00079434 effect on the market equilibrium we will 9dbMnXtEBD8-00319-00079435-00079661 also see similar behavior in price when 9dbMnXtEBD8-00320-00079662-00079823 there is a change in the supply schedule 9dbMnXtEBD8-00321-00079824-00080046 occurring through technological changes 9dbMnXtEBD8-00322-00080047-00080284 or through changes in business costs an 9dbMnXtEBD8-00323-00080285-00080549 increase in technological usage or 9dbMnXtEBD8-00324-00080550-00080738 know-how or a decrease in costs would 9dbMnXtEBD8-00325-00080739-00080885 have the effect of increasing the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00326-00080886-00081080 quantity supplied at each price thus 9dbMnXtEBD8-00327-00081081-00081362 reducing the equilibrium price on the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00328-00081363-00081597 other hand a decrease in technology or 9dbMnXtEBD8-00329-00081598-00081803 increase in business costs will decrease 9dbMnXtEBD8-00330-00081804-00082016 the quantity supplied at each price thus 9dbMnXtEBD8-00331-00082017-00082331 increasing equilibrium price the process 9dbMnXtEBD8-00332-00082332-00082640 of comparing two static equilibria is in 9dbMnXtEBD8-00333-00082641-00082797 the above example is known as 9dbMnXtEBD8-00334-00082798-00083105 comparative statics for example since a 9dbMnXtEBD8-00335-00083106-00083310 rise in consumers income leads to a 9dbMnXtEBD8-00336-00083311-00083363 higher 9dbMnXtEBD8-00337-00083364-00083616 and a decline in consumers income leads 9dbMnXtEBD8-00338-00083617-00083831 to a fall in the price in each case the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00339-00083832-00083987 two things change in the same direction 9dbMnXtEBD8-00340-00083988-00084192 we say that the comparative static 9dbMnXtEBD8-00341-00084193-00084378 effect of consumer income on the price 9dbMnXtEBD8-00342-00084379-00084615 is positive this is another way of 9dbMnXtEBD8-00343-00084616-00084788 saying that the total derivative of 9dbMnXtEBD8-00344-00084789-00085001 price with respect to consumer income is 9dbMnXtEBD8-00345-00085002-00085278 greater than zero topic dynamic 9dbMnXtEBD8-00346-00085279-00085454 equilibrium whereas in a static 9dbMnXtEBD8-00347-00085455-00085623 equilibrium all quantities have 9dbMnXtEBD8-00348-00085624-00085821 unchanging values in a dynamic 9dbMnXtEBD8-00349-00085822-00086034 equilibrium various quantities may all 9dbMnXtEBD8-00350-00086035-00086190 be growing at the same rate leaving 9dbMnXtEBD8-00351-00086191-00086498 their ratios unchanging for example in 9dbMnXtEBD8-00352-00086499-00086691 the neoclassical growth model the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00353-00086692-00086888 working population is growing at a rate 9dbMnXtEBD8-00354-00086889-00087090 which is exogenous determined outside 9dbMnXtEBD8-00355-00087091-00087335 the model by non-economic forces in 9dbMnXtEBD8-00356-00087336-00087591 dynamic equilibrium output and the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00357-00087592-00087818 physical capital stock also grow at that 9dbMnXtEBD8-00358-00087819-00088029 same rate without put per worker and the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00359-00088030-00088241 capital stock per worker unchanging 9dbMnXtEBD8-00360-00088242-00088503 similarly in models of inflation a 9dbMnXtEBD8-00361-00088504-00088685 dynamic equilibrium would involve the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00362-00088686-00088896 price level the nominal money supply 9dbMnXtEBD8-00363-00088897-00089141 nominal wage rates and all other nominal 9dbMnXtEBD8-00364-00089142-00089348 values growing at a single common rate 9dbMnXtEBD8-00365-00089349-00089559 while all real values are unchanging as 9dbMnXtEBD8-00366-00089560-00089766 is the inflation rate the process of 9dbMnXtEBD8-00367-00089767-00089987 comparing two dynamic equilibria to each 9dbMnXtEBD8-00368-00089988-00090188 other is known as comparative dynamics 9dbMnXtEBD8-00369-00090189-00090461 for example in the neoclassical growth 9dbMnXtEBD8-00370-00090462-00090674 model starting from one dynamic 9dbMnXtEBD8-00371-00090675-00090863 equilibrium based in part on one 9dbMnXtEBD8-00372-00090864-00091065 particular saving rate a permanent 9dbMnXtEBD8-00373-00091066-00091260 increase in the saving rate leads to a 9dbMnXtEBD8-00374-00091261-00091466 new dynamic equilibrium in which there 9dbMnXtEBD8-00375-00091467-00091635 are permanently higher capital per 9dbMnXtEBD8-00376-00091636-00091848 worker and productivity per worker but 9dbMnXtEBD8-00377-00091849-00092063 an unchanged growth rate of output so it 9dbMnXtEBD8-00378-00092064-00092196 is said that in this model the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00379-00092197-00092411 comparative dynamic effect of the saving 9dbMnXtEBD8-00380-00092412-00092628 rate on capital per worker is positive 9dbMnXtEBD8-00381-00092629-00092823 but the comparative dynamic effect of 9dbMnXtEBD8-00382-00092824-00092985 the saving rate on the output growth 9dbMnXtEBD8-00383-00092986-00093437 rate is zero 9dbMnXtEBD8-00384-00093438-00093911 topic disequilibrium 9dbMnXtEBD8-00385-00093912-00094190 disequilibrium characterizes a market 9dbMnXtEBD8-00386-00094191-00094309 that is not in equilibrium 9dbMnXtEBD8-00387-00094310-00094562 disequilibrium can occur extremely 9dbMnXtEBD8-00388-00094563-00094775 briefly or over an extended period of 9dbMnXtEBD8-00389-00094776-00094843 time 9dbMnXtEBD8-00390-00094844-00095090 typically in financial markets it either 9dbMnXtEBD8-00391-00095091-00095324 never occurs or only momentarily occurs 9dbMnXtEBD8-00392-00095325-00095546 because trading takes place continuously 9dbMnXtEBD8-00393-00095547-00095771 and the prices of financial assets can 9dbMnXtEBD8-00394-00095772-00095972 adjust instantaneously with each trade 9dbMnXtEBD8-00395-00095973-00096257 to equilibrate supply and demand at the 9dbMnXtEBD8-00396-00096258-00096485 other extreme many economists view labor 9dbMnXtEBD8-00397-00096486-00096644 markets as being in a state of 9dbMnXtEBD8-00398-00096645-00096896 disequilibrium specifically one of 9dbMnXtEBD8-00399-00096897-00097169 excess supply over extended periods of 9dbMnXtEBD8-00400-00097170-00097220 time 9dbMnXtEBD8-00401-00097221-00097439 goods markets are somewhere in between 9dbMnXtEBD8-00402-00097440-00097670 prices of some goods while sluggish in 9dbMnXtEBD8-00403-00097671-00097901 adjusting due to menu costs long-term 9dbMnXtEBD8-00404-00097902-00098123 contracts and other impediments do not 9dbMnXtEBD8-00405-00098124-00098285 stay at disequilibrium levels 9dbMnXtEBD8-00406-00098286-00098507 indefinitely and many goods markets such 9dbMnXtEBD8-00407-00098508-00098663 as commodity markets are highly 9dbMnXtEBD8-00408-00098664-00098819 organized and liquid and have 9dbMnXtEBD8-00409-00098820-00099020 essentially instantaneous adjustment of 9dbMnXtEBD8-00410-00099021-00099578 their prices to equilibrium levels 9dbMnXtEBD8-00411-00099579-00100107 topic see also 9dbMnXtEBD8-00412-00100108-00100592 exchange-value labor theory of value law 9dbMnXtEBD8-00413-00100593-00100979 of value prices of production real 9dbMnXtEBD8-00414-00100980-00101478 prices and ideal prices 9dbMnXtEBD8-00415-00101479-00101995 topic references 9dbMnXtEBD8-00416-00101996-00102535 topic external links 9dbMnXtEBD8-00417-00102536-00102833 equilibrium and explanation chapter 2 of 9dbMnXtEBD8-00418-00102834-00103230 surfing economics by Huw Dixon 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00000-00000056-00000286 leprosy stigma is a type of social 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00001-00000287-00000499 stigma a strong negative feeling towards 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00002-00000500-00000722 a person with leprosy relating to their 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00003-00000723-00000991 moral status in society it is also 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00004-00000992-00001223 referred to as leprosy related stigma 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00005-00001224-00001450 leper stigma and stigma of leprosy 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00006-00001451-00001712 since ancient times leprosy instilled 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00007-00001713-00001885 the practice of fear and avoidance in 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00008-00001886-00002120 many societies because of the associated 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00009-00002121-00002279 physical disfigurement and lack of 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00010-00002280-00002564 understanding behind its cause because 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00011-00002565-00002718 of the historical trauma of the word 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00012-00002719-00003016 leprosy invokes the disease is now 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00013-00003017-00003217 referred to as Hansen's disease named 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00014-00003218-00003410 after Gerhard our Mauer Hansen who 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00015-00003411-00003629 discovered Mycobacterium leprae the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00016-00003629-00003829 bacterial agent that causes Hansen's 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00017-00003830-00004054 disease those who have suffered from 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00018-00004055-00004283 Hansen's disease described the impact of 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00019-00004284-00004466 social stigma as far worse than the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00020-00004467-00004661 physical manifestations despite it being 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00021-00004662-00004838 only mildly contagious and 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00022-00004839-00005129 pharmacologically curable this sentiment 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00023-00005130-00005347 is echoed by Weiss and Ramakrishna who 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00024-00005348-00005513 noted that the impact of the meaning of 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00025-00005514-00005702 the disease may be a greater source of 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00026-00005703-00006172 suffering than symptoms of the disease 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00027-00006173-00006738 topic definition of stigma 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00028-00006739-00006981 the word stigma originated from the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00029-00006981-00007170 Greeks who used it to refer to bodily 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00030-00007170-00007347 signs designed to expose something 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00031-00007348-00007559 unusual and bad about the moral status 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00032-00007561-00007854 of a person these bodily signs can be 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00033-00007855-00008009 thought of as the lesions causing 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00034-00008011-00008220 physical deformities in a person's skin 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00035-00008221-00008529 in the context of leprosy American 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00036-00008530-00008741 sociologist Erving Goffman defines 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00037-00008742-00009045 stigma as an attribute that is deeply 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00038-00009046-00009291 discrediting a stigmatized individual as 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00039-00009292-00009498 one who is not accepted and not accorded 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00040-00009499-00009699 the respect and regard of his peers who 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00041-00009700-00009876 is disqualified from full social 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00042-00009877-00010155 acceptance it is associated with one 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00043-00010156-00010356 physical deformities such as facial 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00044-00010357-00010578 plaques facial palsy claw hand deformity 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00045-00010579-00010857 or foot drop two blemishes of character 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00046-00010858-00011060 such as are associated with alcoholism 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00047-00011061-00011271 drug addition or leprosarium 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00048-00011272-00011508 or three rates nation social class 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00049-00011509-00011727 sexuality and religion that are thought 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00050-00011728-00011930 of a second class by another group 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00051-00011931-00012188 stigma itself is constructed based on 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00052-00012189-00012420 historical processes cross-cultural 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00053-00012421-00012633 differences and structural inequalities 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00054-00012634-00013152 which determine social norms 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00055-00013153-00013522 topic history of leprosy stigma 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00056-00013522-00013696 you 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00057-00013697-00013954 leprosy stigma has been associated with 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00058-00013955-00014134 the disease for most of its history and 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00059-00014135-00014434 has been universal in Western Europe it 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00060-00014435-00014590 reached its peak during the Middle Ages 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00061-00014591-00014803 at a time when the disease was viewed as 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00062-00014804-00015160 rendering the person unclean many lazar 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00063-00015161-00015481 houses were built patients had to carry 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00064-00015482-00015672 bells to signal their presence but also 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00065-00015674-00015961 to attract charitable gifts the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00066-00015962-00016272 discovery by Hansen in 1873 that leprosy 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00067-00016274-00016465 was infectious and transmitted by a 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00068-00016466-00016750 bacterium worsened leprosy stigma it 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00069-00016751-00016969 long became associated with sexually 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00070-00016970-00017194 transmitted diseases and during the 19th 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00071-00017195-00017374 century was even thought to be a stage 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00072-00017375-00017635 of syphilis the stigma of the disease 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00073-00017636-00017809 was renewed among Europeans in the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00074-00017810-00017971 Imperial era when they found it was 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00075-00017972-00018238 hyper epidemic in regions that were 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00076-00018239-00018496 being colonized it became associated 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00077-00018497-00018733 with port developing countries whose 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00078-00018734-00018931 residents were believed by Europeans to 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00079-00018932-00019144 be inferior in most ways since the late 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00080-00019145-00019357 20th century with efforts by the World 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00081-00019358-00019537 Health Organization to control the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00082-00019538-00019702 disease through distribution of free 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00083-00019703-00019849 medication many international 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00084-00019850-00020047 organizations have been working to end 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00085-00020048-00020314 the stigma attached to leprosy they work 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00086-00020315-00020524 to educate people and raise awareness of 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00087-00020525-00020737 the facts about leprosy in particular 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00088-00020738-00020958 that it is only mildly contagious some 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00089-00020959-00021175 95% of people are immune to the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00090-00021176-00021610 bacterium that causes it 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00091-00021611-00022205 topic instances of leprosy stigma 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00092-00022206-00022419 stigma surrounding Hansen's disease 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00093-00022420-00022696 often favored society and sacrificed the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00094-00022697-00022883 individual rights of those afflicted 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00095-00022884-00023164 numerous societies in the Middle Ages in 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00096-00023165-00023383 19th and 20th centuries required 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00097-00023384-00023614 separation of persons with leprosy from 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00098-00023615-00023905 the general population in some countries 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00099-00023906-00024088 stigma against people affected by 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00100-00024089-00024584 leprosy is still widespread 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00101-00024585-00025013 topic Japan 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00102-00025014-00025235 in Japan the government required 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00103-00025236-00025460 segregation of persons with leprosy a 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00104-00025461-00025652 separation that increased the social 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00105-00025652-00025881 stigma against them in medieval times 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00106-00025882-00026144 leprosy patients lived apart settling 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00107-00026145-00026333 around temples or shrines where they 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00108-00026333-00026527 begged for charity from passers-by 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00109-00026527-00026843 starting in 1909 the government required 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00110-00026844-00027062 leprosy patients to be hospitalized in 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00111-00027063-00027266 the leprosy sanatoria believing this 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00112-00027267-00027410 would prevent transmission of the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00113-00027411-00027686 disease in some cases patients were 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00114-00027687-00027899 forcibly taken to the sanatoria and 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00115-00027900-00028061 their houses were disinfected in the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00116-00028062-00028301 presence of neighbors their families 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00117-00028302-00028511 were also affected by leprosy stigma 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00118-00028512-00028793 some patients attempted suicide the law 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00119-00028794-00029261 lasted until 1996 in Kumamoto Japan a 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00120-00029262-00029456 patient with leprosy named Matsuo 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00121-00029457-00029672 Fujimoto was tried on charges of an 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00122-00029673-00030039 explosion in 1951 and murder in 1952 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00123-00030041-00030254 during the questioning and trial 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00124-00030255-00030476 procedures he was discriminated against 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00125-00030477-00030731 as a leprosy patient he was convicted 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00126-00030732-00031163 and executed in 1962 Kumamoto Prefecture 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00127-00031164-00031433 governor Yoshiko Xie Thani reported in 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00128-00031433-00031724 2003 that a hotel rejected reservations 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00129-00031725-00031921 of ex patients of Kikuchi chief when 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00130-00031922-00032105 sanatorium who were on the prefecture 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00131-00032106-00032375 'he's home visit program many people 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00132-00032376-00032606 protested against the hotel when the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00133-00032607-00032792 patients rejected the apology of the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00134-00032793-00032990 hotel there were violent protests 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00135-00032991-00033263 against the patients the hotel tore down 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00136-00033264-00033518 this building in June 2004 in the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00137-00033519-00033761 Japanese drama film sweet beam directed 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00138-00033762-00034037 by Naomi kawase 2015 the issue of 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00139-00034038-00034238 leprosy stigma affecting the character 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00140-00034239-00034424 of taki turns out to be the main subject 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00141-00034425-00034607 of the story and leads to a brief 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00142-00034608-00034805 description of an existing community of 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00143-00034806-00035156 ex patients 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00144-00035157-00035662 topic Scandinavia 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00145-00035663-00035927 in Jolene's original report he quoted 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00146-00035928-00036020 Hansen as saying 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00147-00036021-00036268 the Norwegian state has always handled 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00148-00036269-00036514 its leprosy victims humanely 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00149-00036515-00036742 hospitalized patients were free to go 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00150-00036743-00036895 out during the day to sell their hand 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00151-00036896-00037042 work in the market and were allowed to 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00152-00037043-00037286 have visitors there was little evidence 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00153-00037287-00037549 of stigma many patients immigrated to 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00154-00037550-00037745 the United States but that was because 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00155-00037746-00038267 of seeking to escape poverty 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00156-00038268-00038729 southern Europe and Russia 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00157-00038730-00039190 topic India 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00158-00039191-00039433 the concept of heredity was deeply 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00159-00039434-00039605 rooted and when leprosy was thought to 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00160-00039606-00039802 be inherited persons with the disease 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00161-00039803-00040002 and their children were shunned as 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00162-00040003-00040208 deformity was considered divine 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00163-00040209-00040795 punishment stigma was associated with it 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00164-00040796-00041186 Beck China 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00165-00041187-00041423 evidence of leprosy can be traced as far 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00166-00041424-00041740 back as 500 to 300 BC in Chinese 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00167-00041741-00041909 literature when it was considered 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00168-00041910-00042193 punishment for a moral act leprosy 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00169-00042194-00042386 stigma has been considerable though it 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00170-00042387-00042601 has declined since the late 20th century 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00171-00042602-00042890 its resulting facial disfigurement and 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00172-00042891-00043103 mutilation of limbs was feared the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00173-00043104-00043310 disease's long incubation period 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00174-00043311-00043514 resulted in mystery for centuries about 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00175-00043515-00043754 its origins inspiring horror fear and 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00176-00043755-00044084 disgust 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00177-00044085-00044608 topic United States 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00178-00044609-00045106 Hawaii in 1865 the kalapa settlement was 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00179-00045107-00045292 founded on the island of Molokai a 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00180-00045293-00045502 geographically isolated peninsula 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00181-00045503-00045808 bordered high mountains the Pali on one 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00182-00045809-00046027 side of rough sea waters and coral reef 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00183-00046028-00046192 on the other served as a prison for 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00184-00046193-00046372 those with inflicted by Hansen's disease 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00185-00046373-00046744 on the Hawaiian Islands by 1865 the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00186-00046745-00046894 rising numbers of Hansen's disease 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00187-00046895-00047107 patients could no longer be ignored the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00188-00047108-00047293 act to prevent the spread of leprosy of 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00189-00047294-00047482 the nation of Hawaii was passed which 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00190-00047483-00047674 criminalized leprosy and sentenced 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00191-00047675-00047914 victims to permanent exile the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00192-00047915-00048103 quarantine of lepers was based on the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00193-00048104-00048307 new assumption of leprosy being a highly 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00194-00048308-00048592 contagious disease stigmatization of 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00195-00048593-00048793 leprosy began as a relatively unknown 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00196-00048794-00049012 disease changed into a socially and 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00197-00049013-00049240 morally threatening phenomenon those 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00198-00049241-00049429 with severe cases were sent to kala 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00199-00049430-00049621 while an isolated settlement on the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00200-00049622-00049912 island of Molokai later a second and 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00201-00049913-00050074 larger settlement was developed at 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00202-00050075-00050314 kalaupapa this settlement had a peak 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00203-00050315-00050587 population of about 1100 shortly after 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00204-00050588-00050809 the turn of the 20th century in total 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00205-00050810-00051094 about 8,500 persons were quarantined 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00206-00051095-00051439 here over the decades until 1965 both 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00207-00051440-00051679 settlements are in Callaway County the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00208-00051679-00051858 entire county is now within what is 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00209-00051859-00052087 known as the kalapa leprosy settlement 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00210-00052088-00052270 and National Historical Park which 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00211-00052271-00052459 preserves both the major structures of 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00212-00052460-00052609 the settlements and the associated 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00213-00052610-00052897 environment of the area for the Native 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00214-00052898-00053104 Hawaiians who constituted most of the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00215-00053104-00053304 Hansen's disease patients exile was 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00216-00053305-00053566 devastating culturally they believed 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00217-00053566-00053749 their self-identity was intrinsically 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00218-00053750-00054025 tied to their land to relocate them to 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00219-00054026-00054229 call out Papa as exiles was just the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00220-00054229-00054400 same as stripping them of their identity 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00221-00054401-00054700 the stigma of Hansen's disease also led 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00222-00054701-00055003 to no medical services between 1865 to 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00223-00055004-00055225 1870 three on kala papa 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00224-00055226-00055444 no doctors were sent there because they 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00225-00055445-00055704 were afraid of becoming infected only 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00226-00055705-00055954 Kokua family members and father damian 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00227-00055954-00056110 tended to the victims of Hansen's 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00228-00056111-00056410 disease on Molokai Kalaupapa was an 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00229-00056411-00056604 innovative approach to a solution for 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00230-00056605-00056800 leprosy by Westerners which became a 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00231-00056801-00056967 model for controlling disease worldwide 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00232-00056969-00057216 it was the first time ostracized and 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00233-00057217-00057400 shunned people were torn from families 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00234-00057401-00057579 and transported to a remote prison 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00235-00057580-00057847 island after quarantine ended in 1960 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00236-00057848-00057968 those persons living 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00237-00057969-00058166 Kalaupapa who chose to do so could 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00238-00058167-00058334 remain for the rest of their lives 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00239-00058335-00058634 however dehumanizing medical rules and 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00240-00058635-00058853 regulations regarding physical contact 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00241-00058854-00059075 with Kalaupapa residents persisted even 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00242-00059076-00059328 into the 1980s despite the discovery of 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00243-00059329-00059561 curing sulfone drugs mild bacterium 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00244-00059562-00059744 leprae was most likely brought to the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00245-00059745-00059924 island by Westerners despite accusations 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00246-00059925-00060178 of the Chinese plantation workers in 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00247-00060179-00060509 1886 Molokai leprosy Hospital reported 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00248-00060510-00060710 that missionaries recognized leprosy as 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00249-00060711-00060984 early as 1823 prior to any Chinese 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00250-00060985-00061280 immigration a physician also recognized 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00251-00061281-00061568 similar symptoms in 1840 which was still 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00252-00061569-00061774 before Chinese laborers came to Hawaii 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00253-00061775-00062054 the Chinese were able to recognize the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00254-00062055-00062213 disease because they had seen it in 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00255-00062214-00062366 China but they were not the ones to 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00256-00062367-00062591 bring it to the island it was most 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00257-00062592-00062798 likely a westerner since the Hawaiians 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00258-00062799-00062981 did not recognize the disease and there 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00259-00062982-00063176 was no documentation of Hansen's disease 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00260-00063177-00063372 among the Hawaiian prior to the arrival 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00261-00063373-00063761 of Westerners in addition between 1866 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00262-00063762-00064328 to 1885 of the 3076 patients 2997 were 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00263-00064329-00064572 Native Hawaiian fifty-seven European and 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00264-00064573-00065030 22 Chinese Louisiana in 1884 the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00265-00065031-00065243 Louisiana Legislature established a 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00266-00065244-00065456 State Board of leprosy Control as there 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00267-00065457-00065693 were numerous cases in the state the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00268-00065694-00065871 strain here was associated with the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00269-00065872-00066041 history of the slave trade from West 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00270-00066042-00066479 Africa in 1917 the US Congress passed a 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00271-00066480-00066690 bill to create a national leprosy reham 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00272-00066691-00066836 which was built in Carville Louisiana 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00273-00066837-00067049 and run by the Public Health Service 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00274-00067050-00067277 today known as the National Hansen's 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00275-00067278-00067661 disease Museum in 1941 patient Stanley 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00276-00067662-00067862 Stein founded a journal the Starr to 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00277-00067863-00068159 combat leprosy stigma researchers in the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00278-00068160-00068417 1940s at the US National leprous Airi 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00279-00068418-00068609 improved the clinical effectiveness of 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00280-00068610-00068807 the intravenous sulfone Pro Minh the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00281-00068808-00068997 first widely effective treatment for the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00282-00068998-00069260 disease it was used both to cure leprosy 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00283-00069261-00069560 and mitigate the damage it caused in the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00284-00069561-00069803 late 20th century researchers developed 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00285-00069804-00070047 multi drug therapy MDT to offset 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00286-00070048-00070262 antibiotic resistance developing in the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00287-00070263-00070693 disease bacterium 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00288-00070694-00070921 topic patients relatives and leprosy 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00289-00070922-00071310 reom workers 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00290-00071311-00071544 because of associated ideas about 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00291-00071545-00071760 heredity and contagion children and 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00292-00071761-00071973 families of persons with leprosy also 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00293-00071974-00072249 suffered stigma studies found that only 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00294-00072250-00072531 about 5% of spouses living with persons 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00295-00072532-00072723 with the disease contracted it making it 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00296-00072724-00072885 clear that leprosy was not highly 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00297-00072886-00073206 contagious topic factors contributing to 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00298-00073207-00073443 leprosy stigma biblical references in 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00299-00073444-00073617 the Book of Leviticus Leviticus chapter 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00300-00073618-00073875 13 states but if the bright spot is 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00301-00073876-00074052 white on the skin of his body and it 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00302-00074053-00074196 does not appear to be deeper than the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00303-00074197-00074364 skin and the hair on it has not turned 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00304-00074365-00074562 white then the priest shall isolate him 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00305-00074563-00074730 who has the infection for seven days 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00306-00074731-00074970 topic general public's misconceptions 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00307-00074971-00075120 the general public still has 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00308-00075121-00075309 misconceptions about leprosy with 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00309-00075310-00075486 persistent beliefs that it is highly 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00310-00075487-00075840 contagious in the 21st century agencies 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00311-00075841-00076050 such as the leprosy mission campaign to 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00312-00076051-00076224 end these misconceptions and work to 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00313-00076225-00076467 educate people about leprosy its causes 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00314-00076468-00076701 and how it is transmitted they want 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00315-00076702-00076896 people with the disease to be identified 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00316-00076897-00077064 so they can be treated and limit the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00317-00077065-00077250 physical damage as well as control 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00318-00077251-00077589 contagion in the 21st century effective 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00319-00077590-00077817 pretreatment of dapsone rifampicin and 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00320-00077818-00078089 closes Amin was available through whu-oh 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00321-00078090-00078366 however in many parts of the world lay 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00322-00078367-00078546 people still believe the disease to be 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00323-00078547-00078813 incurable the multi drug therapy 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00324-00078814-00078996 provided free to countries where the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00325-00078997-00079179 disease is endemic provides a reliable 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00326-00079180-00079446 cure for leprosy the misconception also 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00327-00079447-00079608 stems from the discontinuity between 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00328-00079609-00079869 science and government policy although 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00329-00079870-00080073 the medical community has agreed for 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00330-00080074-00080259 decades that Hansen's disease is only 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00331-00080260-00080487 mildly contagious it still remains on 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00332-00080488-00080676 the list of communicable diseases of 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00333-00080677-00080829 Public Health significance for 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00334-00080830-00080943 health-related grounds of 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00335-00080944-00081162 inadmissibility on the US Citizenship 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00336-00081163-00081339 and Immigration Services website 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00337-00081340-00081603 even though HIV was removed in 2010 as 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00338-00081604-00081954 of 2018 Hansen's disease is still listed 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00339-00081955-00082143 as a communicable disease of public 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00340-00082144-00082341 significance and therefore screened for 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00341-00082342-00082556 as part of the immigration medical exam 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00342-00082557-00082830 topic leprous Aria Lazar hospitals 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00343-00082831-00083043 leprous Aria and colonies were built to 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00344-00083044-00083241 quarantine persons with leprosy and 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00345-00083242-00083496 associated with its stigma some of the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00346-00083497-00083700 leprous Aria and colonies are situated 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00347-00083701-00084000 in remote lands or islands topic the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00348-00084001-00084219 press in the past the press contributed 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00349-00084220-00084429 to leprosy stigma reflecting social 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00350-00084430-00084747 values in many areas on the May 7th 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00351-00084748-00085037 2007 lou dobbs tonight program madeline 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00352-00085038-00085230 Cosman a scholar and lawyer not 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00353-00085231-00085425 physician falsely stated there have been 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00354-00085426-00085775 7,000 cases in the past three years in a 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00355-00085776-00085980 later interview with 60 minutes Dobbs 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00356-00085981-00086231 was questioned about the 7,000 cases in 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00357-00086232-00086426 three years figure but said if we 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00358-00086427-00086637 reported it it's a fact on the contrary 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00359-00086638-00086853 the National Hansen's disease program 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00360-00086854-00087072 represented this number in 30 years 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00361-00087073-00087344 not three years although Dobbs admitted 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00362-00087345-00087528 the mistake in a later New York Times 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00363-00087529-00087735 article the ramifications of the false 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00364-00087736-00088007 statement persisted in 2012 leprosy 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00365-00088008-00088206 support organizations successfully 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00366-00088207-00088376 lobbied Aardman Animations to have a 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00367-00088377-00088641 scene from the Pirates in an adventure 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00368-00088642-00088842 with scientists removed due to concerns 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00369-00088843-00089093 about the image at portrayed the scene 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00370-00089094-00089300 involved at leper ship and a leprosy 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00371-00089301-00089481 sufferer whose arm falls off during the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00372-00089482-00089726 scene as there are already many myths 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00373-00089727-00089951 surrounding leprosy advocates working to 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00374-00089952-00090137 end stigma believed that this scene was 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00375-00090138-00090411 unhelpful aardman agreed to remove it 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00376-00090412-00090630 some argued that the joke was harmless 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00377-00090631-00090879 and should have been retained topic 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00378-00090880-00091106 campaigns against leprosy stigma topic 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00379-00091107-00091343 the star Stanley Stein a blind patient 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00380-00091344-00091500 at the national level are you Matt 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00381-00091501-00091716 Carville started the star a crusading 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00382-00091717-00091937 international magazine against leprosy 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00383-00091938-00092193 stigma the journal raised awareness of 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00384-00092194-00092432 facts about Hansen's disease the full 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00385-00092433-00092801 text of the star newsletter 1941 to 2001 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00386-00092802-00093026 is available online the star continues 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00387-00093027-00093303 to be published twice a year new copies 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00388-00093304-00093453 are published on the forty and eight 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00389-00093454-00093666 will associate a day current hums a 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00390-00093667-00093930 tweet cheveux web site the back cover 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00391-00093931-00094125 still includes facts about Hansen's 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00392-00094126-00094505 disease 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00393-00094506-00095003 topic the United Nations 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00394-00095004-00095387 since 1995 w-h-o has supported the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00395-00095388-00095591 eradication of Hansen's disease through 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00396-00095592-00095780 the administration of free multi drug 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00397-00095781-00095975 treatment worldwide in the promotion of 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00398-00095976-00096185 Education of Hansen's disease to erase 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00399-00096186-00096437 stigma towards Hansen's although the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00400-00096438-00096623 goal for the complete eradication of 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00401-00096624-00096872 leprosy in 2020 seems infeasible for 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00402-00096873-00097100 zero patients due to the long period of 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00403-00097101-00097397 M leprae dormancy the w-h-o has shifted 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00404-00097398-00097613 towards a final push strategy focusing 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00405-00097614-00097751 on early detection to reduce 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00406-00097752-00098060 disabilities moreover most patients do 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00407-00098061-00098235 not die from leprosy but from other 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00408-00098236-00098472 diseases and complication not the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00409-00098473-00098766 bacterial infection itself in addition 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00410-00098767-00098972 people may survive for many years but 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00411-00098973-00099153 still have leprosy or survive with 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00412-00099154-00099467 disabilities in June 2015 the UN Human 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00413-00099468-00099672 Rights Council adopted a resolution on 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00414-00099673-00099778 the elimination of discrimination 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00415-00099779-00100061 against persons affected by leprosy and 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00416-00100062-00100322 their family members the Human Rights 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00417-00100323-00100541 Council voted to establish the mandate 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00418-00100542-00100736 of a Special Rapporteur on the issue in 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00419-00100737-00101056 June 2017 for a period of three years 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00420-00101057-00101385 subsequently in November 2017 ms alice 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00421-00101386-00101610 cruz of portugal was appointed as the UN 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00422-00101611-00101825 Special Rapporteur on the elimination of 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00423-00101826-00102017 discrimination against persons affected 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00424-00102018-00102250 by leprosy and their family members on 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00425-00102251-00102638 the 16th of August 2018 ms alice cruz 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00426-00102639-00102825 issued a statement saying that the use 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00427-00102826-00103028 of leprosy as a pejorative metaphor 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00428-00103029-00103244 derives from long lasting stigmatizing 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00429-00103245-00103406 connotations produced by different 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00430-00103407-00103634 cultural traditions social rules and 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00431-00103635-00103928 legal frameworks using it as a metaphor 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00432-00103929-00104124 leads to wrongful stereotyping that 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00433-00104125-00104315 fuels public stigma everyday 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00434-00104316-00104531 discrimination and impairs the enjoyment 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00435-00104532-00104690 of human rights and fundamental freedoms 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00436-00104691-00104993 by persons affected and their families 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00437-00104994-00105215 examples of politicians who made 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00438-00105216-00105408 reference to leprosy while referring to 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00439-00105408-00105582 opposition parties the statement 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00440-00105583-00105740 stresses are the Portuguese Prime 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00441-00105741-00105941 Minister Antonio Costa and the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00442-00105942-00106166 Bangladeshi shipping minister Shah Jahan 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00443-00106167-00106483 Khan 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00444-00106484-00106959 topic museums 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00445-00106960-00107253 National Hansen's disease Museum Japan 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00446-00107254-00107484 in Tokyo Japan as a representative 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00447-00107485-00107713 museum showing the history of leprosy in 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00448-00107714-00107920 Japan for the eradication of leprosy 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00449-00107921-00108216 stigma it is situated next to the Tama 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00450-00108217-00108499 zenshin sanatorium smaller museums are 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00451-00108500-00108711 associated with other sanatoriums in 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00452-00108713-00108933 Japan such as in Tohoku shinsen 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00453-00108934-00109231 sanatorium career åkesson and sanatorium 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00454-00109232-00109441 Nagashima i science a Natori Amman 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00455-00109442-00109726 Kikuchi chief when sanatorium the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00456-00109727-00109929 National Hansen's disease Museum in 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00457-00109930-00110128 Carville Louisiana collects preserves 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00458-00110129-00110358 and interprets the medical and cultural 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00459-00110359-00110535 artifacts of the carville historic 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00460-00110536-00110804 district it promotes the understanding 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00461-00110805-00111022 identification and treatment of Hansen's 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00462-00111023-00111226 disease leprosy by creating and 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00463-00111227-00111435 maintaining museum displace traveling 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00464-00111436-00111678 exhibits publications and a website in 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00465-00111679-00112164 order to educate and inform the public 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00466-00112165-00112449 topic delete the l word don't call me a 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00467-00112450-00112807 leper 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00468-00112808-00113023 the leprosy mission international 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00469-00113024-00113197 advocates for the end of the use of the 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00470-00113198-00113488 term leper to describe a person with 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00471-00113489-00113698 leprosy the term has negative 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00472-00113699-00113902 connotations for sufferers and because 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00473-00113903-00114121 of many historical references has long 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00474-00114122-00114382 been used to identify someone as unclean 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00475-00114383-00114631 in a ritual sense or who should not be 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00476-00114632-00114976 touched or associated with TLM England 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00477-00114977-00115189 and Wales launched their don't call me a 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00478-00115190-00115552 leper campaign in 2010 whilst TLM 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00479-00115553-00115835 Scotland launched delete the l word in 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00480-00115836-00116122 2012 both organizations have noted that 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00481-00116123-00116458 the word leper is derogatory ostracizing 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00482-00116458-00116719 and outdated they advocate for the use 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00483-00116720-00116995 of the term people person with leprosy 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00484-00116996-00117304 for those undergoing treatment leprosy 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00485-00117305-00117646 patient we also be acceptable TL m have 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00486-00117647-00117826 regularly contacted the press to 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00487-00117827-00118066 discourage the use of the word leper and 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00488-00118067-00118335 have successfully lobbied the BBC to 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00489-00118336-00118489 have it added to guidance for words 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00490-00118490-00118995 which should not be used 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00491-00118996-00119489 topic notes 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00492-00119490-00120025 topic external links 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00493-00120026-00120303 in full of leprosy information services 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00494-00120304-00120523 gives a subject guide on leprosy related 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00495-00120524-00120713 stigma 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00496-00120714-00121039 urgent need to end stigma and isolation 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00497-00121040-00121329 medicine lifting the stigma of leprosy 9eP2zlo8Iy0-00498-00121330-00121630 time 9mxYvSXRAoU-00000-00000159-00000311 good afternoon 9mxYvSXRAoU-00001-00000312-00000534 for those who are new i'm dr theron 9mxYvSXRAoU-00002-00000535-00000719 sherman and today's briefing we'll be 9mxYvSXRAoU-00003-00000720-00001007 discussing scp-6077 9mxYvSXRAoU-00004-00001008-00001166 there isn't any objectionable material 9mxYvSXRAoU-00005-00001167-00001374 in this document so let's begin the 9mxYvSXRAoU-00006-00001375-00001503 briefing 9mxYvSXRAoU-00007-00001504-00001847 item number scp-6077 9mxYvSXRAoU-00008-00001848-00002118 object class explained 9mxYvSXRAoU-00009-00002119-00002318 special containment procedures 9mxYvSXRAoU-00010-00002319-00002499 any additional instances of 9mxYvSXRAoU-00011-00002500-00002702 scp-6077 are to be expunged from the 9mxYvSXRAoU-00012-00002703-00002902 public record failure to do so will 9mxYvSXRAoU-00013-00002903-00003087 require a misinformation campaign under 9mxYvSXRAoU-00014-00003088-00003375 the guise of a mundane radio anomaly 9mxYvSXRAoU-00015-00003376-00003579 description 9mxYvSXRAoU-00016-00003579-00003806 scp-6077 are a series of identical 9mxYvSXRAoU-00017-00003807-00004031 transmissions received via a previously 9mxYvSXRAoU-00018-00004032-00004199 undiscovered tachyon base method from at 9mxYvSXRAoU-00019-00004200-00004359 least several dozen star systems of 9mxYvSXRAoU-00020-00004360-00004470 origin 9mxYvSXRAoU-00021-00004471-00004619 the first instance of 9mxYvSXRAoU-00022-00004620-00005022 scp-6077 was received on august 15 1977 9mxYvSXRAoU-00023-00005023-00005279 and was dubbed the quote wow signal due 9mxYvSXRAoU-00024-00005280-00005431 to the exclamation the presiding 9mxYvSXRAoU-00025-00005432-00005670 astronomer jerry r ayman transcribed on 9mxYvSXRAoU-00026-00005671-00005843 the printout 9mxYvSXRAoU-00027-00005844-00006047 scp-6077 was the focus of a major 9mxYvSXRAoU-00028-00006048-00006206 foundation initiative from the years of 9mxYvSXRAoU-00029-00006207-00006439 1978-2022 9mxYvSXRAoU-00030-00006440-00006614 as additional copies of the transmission 9mxYvSXRAoU-00031-00006615-00006775 were received and a more clear version 9mxYvSXRAoU-00032-00006776-00006975 could be interpolated following 9mxYvSXRAoU-00033-00006976-00007142 extensive research and effort by 9mxYvSXRAoU-00034-00007143-00007327 foundation astronomers cryptographers 9mxYvSXRAoU-00035-00007328-00007491 and linguists 9mxYvSXRAoU-00036-00007492-00007670 scp-6077 were confirmed to be 9mxYvSXRAoU-00037-00007672-00007814 collectively transmitting the following 9mxYvSXRAoU-00038-00007815-00007959 message 9mxYvSXRAoU-00039-00007959-00008134 coordinated message from the united 9mxYvSXRAoU-00040-00008136-00008310 worlds of untranslatable and 9mxYvSXRAoU-00041-00008311-00008559 untranslatable official complaint of 9mxYvSXRAoU-00042-00008560-00008703 disturbance 9mxYvSXRAoU-00043-00008704-00008863 please cease excessive primitive 9mxYvSXRAoU-00044-00008864-00008991 transmission 9mxYvSXRAoU-00045-00008992-00009295 strongly worded fleet to follow 9mxYvSXRAoU-00046-00009296-00009646 as of august 15 2027 no further related 9mxYvSXRAoU-00047-00009647-00009883 communications have been received and 9mxYvSXRAoU-00048-00009884-00010135 scp-607 remained the only confirmed 9mxYvSXRAoU-00049-00010136-00010295 instances of communication between 9mxYvSXRAoU-00050-00010296-00010663 humanity and extraterrestrial life 9mxYvSXRAoU-00051-00010664-00010814 thank you for listening 9mxYvSXRAoU-00052-00010815-00011038 site 42 studios and its staff are funded 9mxYvSXRAoU-00053-00011039-00011206 by viewers like you 9mxYvSXRAoU-00054-00011207-00011374 please become a patron or visit our 9mxYvSXRAoU-00055-00011375-00011542 merch store at the link in our bio to 9mxYvSXRAoU-00056-00011543-00011742 support our work 9mxYvSXRAoU-00057-00011743-00012241 secure contain protect 9mxYvSXRAoU-00058-00012242-00012830 [Music] 9mxYvSXRAoU-00059-00012831-00013039 you 9nstUqkccVk-00000-00000114-00001047 [Music] 9nstUqkccVk-00001-00001048-00001270 in my last chronobiology video we 9nstUqkccVk-00002-00001271-00001423 learned that the exact same number of 9nstUqkccVk-00003-00001424-00001695 calories at breakfast are significantly 9nstUqkccVk-00004-00001696-00001975 less fattening than the same number of 9nstUqkccVk-00005-00001976-00002175 calories eaten at supper 9nstUqkccVk-00006-00002176-00002495 but who eats just one meal a day what 9nstUqkccVk-00007-00002496-00002702 about just shifting our daily 9nstUqkccVk-00008-00002703-00002910 distribution of calories earlier in the 9nstUqkccVk-00009-00002911-00003166 day israeli researchers randomized 9nstUqkccVk-00010-00003167-00003327 overweight and obese women into one of 9nstUqkccVk-00011-00003328-00003583 two isocaloric groups meaning each group 9nstUqkccVk-00012-00003584-00003775 was given the same number of total 9nstUqkccVk-00013-00003776-00004006 calories one group was given a 700 9nstUqkccVk-00014-00004007-00004199 calorie breakfast a 500 calorie lunch 9nstUqkccVk-00015-00004200-00004399 and a 200 calorie dinner and the other 9nstUqkccVk-00016-00004400-00004638 group was given the opposite 200 for 9nstUqkccVk-00017-00004639-00004847 breakfast 500 for lunch and 700 for 9nstUqkccVk-00018-00004848-00004935 dinner 9nstUqkccVk-00019-00004936-00005135 since they were all eating the same 9nstUqkccVk-00020-00005136-00005391 number of calories overall the king 9nstUqkccVk-00021-00005392-00005638 prince popper group should have lost the 9nstUqkccVk-00022-00005639-00005863 same amount of weight as the papa prince 9nstUqkccVk-00023-00005864-00006022 king group right 9nstUqkccVk-00024-00006023-00006318 but no the morning slanted group lost 9nstUqkccVk-00025-00006319-00006559 more than twice as much weight 9nstUqkccVk-00026-00006559-00006783 in addition to slimming about an extra 9nstUqkccVk-00027-00006784-00006983 two inches off their waist lines 9nstUqkccVk-00028-00006984-00007255 by the end of the 12-week study the king 9nstUqkccVk-00029-00007256-00007623 prince popper group lost 11 more pounds 9nstUqkccVk-00030-00007623-00007887 19 pounds lost compared to eight despite 9nstUqkccVk-00031-00007888-00008231 eating the same number of calories 9nstUqkccVk-00032-00008232-00008439 that's the power of chronobiology the 9nstUqkccVk-00033-00008440-00008774 power of our circadian rhythms 9nstUqkccVk-00034-00008775-00009006 700 500 200 9nstUqkccVk-00035-00009007-00009327 it's 50 of calories at breakfast uh 36 9nstUqkccVk-00036-00009328-00009551 percent of calories at lunch and only 14 9nstUqkccVk-00037-00009552-00009791 of calories that suffer that's 9nstUqkccVk-00038-00009792-00010071 pretty skewed uh what about uh 20 for 9nstUqkccVk-00039-00010072-00010223 supper instead uh 9nstUqkccVk-00040-00010224-00010646 a 50 30 20 spread compared to you know 9nstUqkccVk-00041-00010647-00010967 20 30 50. again the bigger breakfast 9nstUqkccVk-00042-00010968-00011231 group experienced dramatically increased 9nstUqkccVk-00043-00011232-00011519 weight loss about nine pounds different 9nstUqkccVk-00044-00011520-00011710 in just eight weeks 9nstUqkccVk-00045-00011711-00011895 with no significant differences in 9nstUqkccVk-00046-00011896-00012127 overall calorie intake or physical 9nstUqkccVk-00047-00012128-00012246 activity 9nstUqkccVk-00048-00012247-00012503 between the two groups instead of 80 9nstUqkccVk-00049-00012504-00012727 plus of calories at breakfast and lunch 9nstUqkccVk-00050-00012728-00013055 what about 70 compared to 55 9nstUqkccVk-00051-00013056-00013303 overweight homemakers were randomized to 9nstUqkccVk-00052-00013304-00013519 eat 70 of their calories at breakfast 9nstUqkccVk-00053-00013519-00013694 morning snack and lunch 9nstUqkccVk-00054-00013695-00013911 leaving 30 for an afternoon snack and 9nstUqkccVk-00055-00013912-00014263 dinner or more balanced 55 up through 9nstUqkccVk-00056-00014263-00014415 and including lunch 9nstUqkccVk-00057-00014416-00014647 in both cases only a minority of 9nstUqkccVk-00058-00014647-00014838 calories were eaten for dinner i mean 9nstUqkccVk-00059-00014840-00015150 would it matter if it was just 55 up 9nstUqkccVk-00060-00015151-00015366 through lunch or 70 9nstUqkccVk-00061-00015368-00015599 yes significantly more weight loss in 9nstUqkccVk-00062-00015600-00015799 slimming in the dietary pattern that was 9nstUqkccVk-00063-00015800-00016063 even more biased towards the morning you 9nstUqkccVk-00064-00016063-00016286 know stories about food nutrition are in 9nstUqkccVk-00065-00016287-00016486 the news on almost daily basis but 9nstUqkccVk-00066-00016487-00016679 information can sometimes be confusing 9nstUqkccVk-00067-00016680-00016894 contradictory clear messages should be 9nstUqkccVk-00068-00016895-00017135 proposed in order to reach the greatest 9nstUqkccVk-00069-00017136-00017303 number of people the researchers 9nstUqkccVk-00070-00017304-00017599 conclude and one clear communication 9nstUqkccVk-00071-00017600-00017791 physicians can give is if you want to 9nstUqkccVk-00072-00017792-00018063 lose weight eat more in the morning then 9nstUqkccVk-00073-00018064-00018207 in the evening 9nstUqkccVk-00074-00018208-00018383 even just telling people to either main 9nstUqkccVk-00075-00018384-00018591 meal at lunch rather than dinner may 9nstUqkccVk-00076-00018592-00018671 help 9nstUqkccVk-00077-00018672-00018943 despite comparable caloric intake 9nstUqkccVk-00078-00018944-00019094 participants in a weight loss program 9nstUqkccVk-00079-00019095-00019279 randomized to get advice to make their 9nstUqkccVk-00080-00019280-00019543 main meal lunch beat out those who 9nstUqkccVk-00081-00019544-00019694 instead were told to make their main 9nstUqkccVk-00082-00019695-00019839 meal dinner 9nstUqkccVk-00083-00019840-00020047 the proverb eat breakfast like a king 9nstUqkccVk-00084-00020048-00020239 lunch like a prince and dinner like a 9nstUqkccVk-00085-00020240-00020550 popper evidently has a another variant 9nstUqkccVk-00086-00020551-00020799 eat breakfast yourself share lunch with 9nstUqkccVk-00087-00020800-00020927 a friend and 9nstUqkccVk-00088-00020928-00021199 give dinner away to your enemy i 9nstUqkccVk-00089-00021200-00021367 wouldn't go that far but i mean there 9nstUqkccVk-00090-00021368-00021663 does appear to be metabolic benefit to 9nstUqkccVk-00091-00021664-00021871 front loading the bulk of your calories 9nstUqkccVk-00092-00021872-00022119 earlier in the day 9nstUqkccVk-00093-00022120-00022350 the evidence isn't completely consistent 9nstUqkccVk-00094-00022351-00022567 though a review of dietary pattern 9nstUqkccVk-00095-00022568-00022727 studies questioned the role that 9nstUqkccVk-00096-00022728-00022878 reducing evening intakes would 9nstUqkccVk-00097-00022879-00023127 facilitate weight loss citing this study 9nstUqkccVk-00098-00023128-00023350 that showed the evening weighted group 9nstUqkccVk-00099-00023351-00023614 did better than the heavy morning meal 9nstUqkccVk-00100-00023615-00023742 group 9nstUqkccVk-00101-00023743-00023935 perhaps that was because the morning 9nstUqkccVk-00102-00023936-00024135 meal group was given for breakfast 9nstUqkccVk-00103-00024136-00024375 chocolate cookies cake ice cream 9nstUqkccVk-00104-00024376-00024703 chocolate mousse and donuts so 9nstUqkccVk-00105-00024704-00024886 chronobiology 9nstUqkccVk-00106-00024887-00025142 can be trumped by a junk food 9nstUqkccVk-00107-00025143-00025439 methodology overall the what is still 9nstUqkccVk-00108-00025440-00025646 more important than the when 9nstUqkccVk-00109-00025647-00025894 caloric timing may be used to accelerate 9nstUqkccVk-00110-00025895-00026055 weight loss but doesn't you know 9nstUqkccVk-00111-00026056-00026383 substitute for a healthy diet 9nstUqkccVk-00112-00026383-00026574 when he said that there was a time for 9nstUqkccVk-00113-00026575-00026887 every purpose under heaven ecclesiastes 9nstUqkccVk-00114-00026888-00027494 probably wasn't talking about doughnuts 9nstUqkccVk-00115-00027495-00029318 [Music] 9nstUqkccVk-00116-00029319-00029527 you 9nMWIwKTfBY-00000-00000000-00000497 imagine Wow so sounds interesting I'd 9nMWIwKTfBY-00001-00000498-00000655 love to make it over to Russia at some 9nMWIwKTfBY-00002-00000656-00000998 point for some drifting over there until 9nMWIwKTfBY-00003-00000999-00001178 then becomes the next paddle 9nMWIwKTfBY-00004-00001179-00001609 gotcha this is Chen Wang Chan from China 9nMWIwKTfBY-00005-00001610-00002143 s 15 battle here we go down the front 9nMWIwKTfBY-00006-00002144-00002650 straight chin entering very late to try 9nMWIwKTfBY-00007-00002651-00002851 and keep up gotcha holding a lot of 9nMWIwKTfBY-00008-00002852-00003220 speed big angle from gotcha but Chen 9nMWIwKTfBY-00009-00003221-00003386 right there with him chin a little bit 9nMWIwKTfBY-00010-00003386-00003650 shallow maybe to try and keep the speed 9nMWIwKTfBY-00011-00003651-00004054 up i Chen really struggling here aren't 9nMWIwKTfBY-00012-00004055-00004495 throwing in too deep completing the run 9nMWIwKTfBY-00013-00004496-00004711 that's actually a good recovery from 9nMWIwKTfBY-00014-00004712-00005050 completely undo ok second run now 9nMWIwKTfBY-00015-00005051-00005302 obviously we're okay 9nMWIwKTfBY-00016-00005303-00005741 second run gotcha in the chase Chen Wang 9nMWIwKTfBY-00017-00005742-00005975 Chan in the lead looking pretty good so 9nMWIwKTfBY-00018-00005976-00006284 far both drivers gotcha falling behind 9nMWIwKTfBY-00019-00006285-00006721 slightly he came into this battle with 9nMWIwKTfBY-00020-00006722-00006998 the advantage he's not gonna lose it now 9nMWIwKTfBY-00021-00006998-00007573 is he solid lead run from Chen gotcha 9nMWIwKTfBY-00022-00007575-00007873 winner gotcha already the start line can 9nMWIwKTfBY-00023-00007875-00008053 see they're waiting for Tinker gern and 9nMWIwKTfBY-00024-00008054-00008263 that's it 9nMWIwKTfBY-00025-00008264-00008549 unfortunately over time for Tinker Jean 9nMWIwKTfBY-00026-00008550-00008671 Lee we really didn't want to see it 9nMWIwKTfBY-00027-00008672-00008828 happen this way 9nMWIwKTfBY-00028-00008829-00009009 [Music] 9nMWIwKTfBY-00029-00009010-00009477 as he completes his second run gotcha 9nMWIwKTfBY-00030-00009478-00009781 you'll be the guy who goes through to 9nMWIwKTfBY-00031-00009782-00010203 the semi-final Russian fans are 9nMWIwKTfBY-00032-00010204-00010509 currently going wild I'd imagine seeing 9nMWIwKTfBY-00033-00010510-00010834 Final Four lined up Fujino against 9nMWIwKTfBY-00034-00010835-00011113 Andrew gray and Matsu on one side of 9nMWIwKTfBY-00035-00011114-00011299 bracket against rushing Chapman 9nMWIwKTfBY-00036-00011300-00011655 defending FIA prettier motsi oh gosh is 9nMWIwKTfBY-00037-00011656-00011913 gonna be super interesting second battle 9nMWIwKTfBY-00038-00011914-00012378 of the semi-final first run between 9nMWIwKTfBY-00039-00012379-00012702 Yukio Matsui and gore cha Matsui in the 9nMWIwKTfBY-00040-00012703-00012988 lead initiating look at that timing 9nMWIwKTfBY-00041-00012988-00013113 gotcha 9nMWIwKTfBY-00042-00013113-00013338 transitioning earlier than Matsui he's 9nMWIwKTfBY-00043-00013340-00013590 looking very confident on this first run 9nMWIwKTfBY-00044-00013591-00014178 gotcha right there with Matsui maybe a 9nMWIwKTfBY-00045-00014179-00014313 little bit too close that transition 9nMWIwKTfBY-00046-00014315-00014461 I've got already feels like keep it 9nMWIwKTfBY-00047-00014462-00014805 clean son you've got this battle look 9nMWIwKTfBY-00048-00014806-00015255 how close he is over the finish line 9nMWIwKTfBY-00049-00015256-00016324 here we go next run this time gotcha 9nMWIwKTfBY-00050-00016325-00016627 last year's champion and the lead Matsui 9nMWIwKTfBY-00051-00016628-00016846 in the chase and he shares on the front 9nMWIwKTfBY-00052-00016847-00017400 straight Matsui getting up on the door 9nMWIwKTfBY-00053-00017401-00017737 of gotchas s15 silvia now giving him 9nMWIwKTfBY-00054-00017738-00017925 space here or is he giving in space or 9nMWIwKTfBY-00055-00017926-00018091 his gotcha driving away look at this 9nMWIwKTfBY-00056-00018092-00018322 huge gap between the two gotchas 9nMWIwKTfBY-00057-00018323-00018825 straight-line speed amazing that is a 9nMWIwKTfBY-00058-00018826-00019200 dialed run from God sharp and there it 9nMWIwKTfBY-00059-00019201-00020178 is an even run there it is next battle 9nMWIwKTfBY-00060-00020179-00020472 second battles Matsui this time in the 9nMWIwKTfBY-00061-00020473-00020820 lead once again this is the rerun 9nMWIwKTfBY-00062-00020821-00021217 initiation first corner big angle from a 9nMWIwKTfBY-00063-00021218-00021490 so he's cranked it up the gutter right 9nMWIwKTfBY-00064-00021491-00021724 there within the speed of the s 15 is 9nMWIwKTfBY-00065-00021725-00022000 amazing here we go 9nMWIwKTfBY-00066-00022001-00022219 Matsui he needs to speed up gotchas 9nMWIwKTfBY-00067-00022220-00022387 right there with him clean run this time 9nMWIwKTfBY-00068-00022388-00022569 from gotcha through the chicane 9nMWIwKTfBY-00069-00022570-00023038 switchback bit of a hesitation from Matt 9nMWIwKTfBY-00070-00023039-00024262 sweet seems gotcha gotcha in the lead 9nMWIwKTfBY-00071-00024263-00024570 Matt through the chase 9nMWIwKTfBY-00072-00024571-00024892 Matsuri set himself up for that inside 9nMWIwKTfBY-00073-00024893-00025303 chase what you're running a little bit 9nMWIwKTfBY-00074-00025304-00025537 too wide though I'm actually right there 9nMWIwKTfBY-00075-00025538-00025675 with him now they accelerate down 9nMWIwKTfBY-00076-00025676-00026080 towards the chicane Matsui taking kind 9nMWIwKTfBY-00077-00026081-00026251 of a shallow line here switchback last 9nMWIwKTfBY-00078-00026252-00026314 chance 9nMWIwKTfBY-00079-00026314-00026626 Matsui tuck it in I don't think it's 9nMWIwKTfBY-00080-00026627-00027127 going to be enough the rx-7 gotcha from 9nMWIwKTfBY-00081-00027127-00027480 russia last year's winner of the IDC 9nMWIwKTfBY-00082-00027481-00027862 here we go ladies and gentlemen the 9nMWIwKTfBY-00083-00027863-00028279 final battle here at the faa IDC for 9nMWIwKTfBY-00084-00028280-00028764 2019 Fuji no wait is it a red it's not a 9nMWIwKTfBY-00085-00028766-00029389 red this is a green light start Fujino 9nMWIwKTfBY-00086-00029389-00029820 did not leave the line under power he's 9nMWIwKTfBY-00087-00029822-00030019 coasting down the front straight right 9nMWIwKTfBY-00088-00030020-00030730 now it's a green course that was not a 9nMWIwKTfBY-00089-00030731-00031255 jump start the car rolling down the 9nMWIwKTfBY-00090-00031256-00031675 front straight and stopping that is a 9nMWIwKTfBY-00091-00031676-00031864 terminal problem it seems no it looks 9nMWIwKTfBY-00092-00031864-00033367 like he's running again what is that 9nMWIwKTfBY-00093-00033368-00033535 could just be it could just be some 9nMWIwKTfBY-00094-00033536-00035020 built-up I believe so so all gotcha has 9nMWIwKTfBY-00095-00035021-00035374 to do is complete this run to make it 9nMWIwKTfBY-00096-00035375-00035467 official 9nMWIwKTfBY-00097-00035468-00036022 he doesn't need to drift it 9nMWIwKTfBY-00098-00036023-00036557 to add a 3/4 gotcha he competed in the 9nMWIwKTfBY-00099-00036558-00037091 first ever IDC he won last year and here 9nMWIwKTfBY-00100-00037092-00038144 is again congratulations Russia there we 9nMWIwKTfBY-00101-00038145-00038195 go 9nMWIwKTfBY-00102-00038196-00038354 might as well give it a drift for the 9nMWIwKTfBY-00103-00038355-00040169 crowd winner gotcha first place for 2019 9nMWIwKTfBY-00104-00040170-00041656 [Applause] 9nMWIwKTfBY-00105-00041657-00041784 [Music] 9nMWIwKTfBY-00106-00041785-00041940 [Applause] 9nMWIwKTfBY-00107-00041941-00042089 forgive us dear 9nMWIwKTfBY-00108-00042090-00042971 use your cup for not dupa diva 9nMWIwKTfBY-00109-00042972-00043352 [Music] 9nMWIwKTfBY-00110-00043353-00043779 they give us their do you so would you 9nMWIwKTfBY-00111-00043780-00044028 know if you didn't eat today got the 9nMWIwKTfBY-00112-00044029-00045599 Fatima's 2018 and 2019 winner gotcha 9nMWIwKTfBY-00113-00045600-00046031 little big happy little bit lucky today 9nMWIwKTfBY-00114-00046032-00046498 thank you 9nMWIwKTfBY-00115-00046499-00047005 [Music] aouA7kSOu80-00000-00000017-00000311 all right ladies and gentlemen this is aouA7kSOu80-00001-00000312-00000509 funny show TV a quick one here let me aouA7kSOu80-00002-00000509-00000755 just explain briefly this is um single aouA7kSOu80-00003-00000756-00000916 phase meter single phase meter single aouA7kSOu80-00004-00000917-00001162 phase meter here all are also single aouA7kSOu80-00005-00001163-00001462 phase meter now this is a gear switch aouA7kSOu80-00006-00001463-00001679 this is the ammo cable they are more aouA7kSOu80-00007-00001680-00001852 cable will come direct from the feeder aouA7kSOu80-00008-00001853-00002105 pillar of the Transformer then from here aouA7kSOu80-00009-00002106-00002279 it will enter straight to this gear aouA7kSOu80-00010-00002280-00002525 switch and power here now from this gas aouA7kSOu80-00011-00002526-00002747 which there's a link if you can see it aouA7kSOu80-00012-00002748-00003113 here it links to this um cut out here aouA7kSOu80-00013-00003114-00003311 now from this gear switch it will link aouA7kSOu80-00014-00003311-00003527 to this cutout from this cutout it will aouA7kSOu80-00015-00003528-00003797 give this box bar here now from the bus aouA7kSOu80-00016-00003797-00004006 bar you can see the meters it will aouA7kSOu80-00017-00004007-00004235 supply to all the meters now from The aouA7kSOu80-00018-00004236-00004529 Meters it will go straight and power the aouA7kSOu80-00019-00004530-00004715 house that is how this simple aouA7kSOu80-00020-00004716-00004925 installation is being done but meanwhile aouA7kSOu80-00021-00004926-00005038 if you don't understand what I'm trying aouA7kSOu80-00022-00005039-00005285 to say is we are trying to install seven aouA7kSOu80-00023-00005286-00005470 meters for a building a particular aouA7kSOu80-00024-00005471-00005704 building so each of the house and flat aouA7kSOu80-00025-00005705-00005963 we use a particular meter for themselves aouA7kSOu80-00026-00005964-00006172 thank you very much don't forget to aouA7kSOu80-00027-00006173-00006436 subscribe funny show TV if you have any aouA7kSOu80-00028-00006437-00006713 question hit the notification bar and I aouA7kSOu80-00029-00006714-00007060 will attend to you thank you mean why it aouA7kSOu80-00030-00007061-00007478 is funny show TV love you a0AxKNe5qzu-00000-00000791-00001023 we'll get started and just a0AxKNe5qzu-00001-00001024-00001630 leave about another minute here a0AxKNe5qzu-00002-00001632-00001830 we have an attendee just showing a phone a0AxKNe5qzu-00003-00001832-00002079 number uh ending in five four three a0AxKNe5qzu-00004-00002080-00002271 three if we allow that person to talk a0AxKNe5qzu-00005-00002272-00002423 can you please identify and we can a0AxKNe5qzu-00006-00002424-00003735 change the name perhaps a0AxKNe5qzu-00007-00003736-00003927 is there an attendee with a phone number a0AxKNe5qzu-00008-00003928-00004103 five four ending in five four three a0AxKNe5qzu-00009-00004104-00005263 three a0AxKNe5qzu-00010-00005264-00005486 you are unmuted but i'm not hearing a0AxKNe5qzu-00011-00005487-00006359 anything from that participant a0AxKNe5qzu-00012-00006360-00007951 thank you very much a0AxKNe5qzu-00013-00007952-00008327 roberta you um a0AxKNe5qzu-00014-00008328-00008574 you got your housekeeping a0AxKNe5qzu-00015-00008575-00009310 in order for when we can get started a0AxKNe5qzu-00016-00009311-00009583 i believe so i think we're a0AxKNe5qzu-00017-00009584-00009759 just missing a0AxKNe5qzu-00018-00009760-00009967 four tac members from what i don't know a0AxKNe5qzu-00019-00009968-00010175 maybe three yeah i've got um a0AxKNe5qzu-00020-00010176-00010342 [Music] a0AxKNe5qzu-00021-00010343-00010510 so we definitely have a quorum i got a0AxKNe5qzu-00022-00010511-00011046 we're still waiting for a0AxKNe5qzu-00023-00011047-00011238 the valley of the moon a0AxKNe5qzu-00024-00011239-00011735 city of sonoma a0AxKNe5qzu-00025-00011736-00011971 and maybe marin municipal a0AxKNe5qzu-00026-00011972-00012103 [Music] a0AxKNe5qzu-00027-00012104-00012335 i think craig joined so he's here okay a0AxKNe5qzu-00028-00012336-00012886 great a0AxKNe5qzu-00029-00012887-00013079 all right let's a0AxKNe5qzu-00030-00013080-00013319 let's go ahead and um a0AxKNe5qzu-00031-00013319-00013519 we've got enough for a quorum i'm sure a0AxKNe5qzu-00032-00013519-00013815 oh yeah there's craig good morning craig a0AxKNe5qzu-00033-00013816-00014199 um so let's go ahead and a0AxKNe5qzu-00034-00014200-00014438 get started this is the a0AxKNe5qzu-00035-00014440-00014727 december tac meeting a0AxKNe5qzu-00036-00014728-00014966 again welcome everybody start of a new a0AxKNe5qzu-00037-00014968-00015094 week a0AxKNe5qzu-00038-00015095-00015199 and a0AxKNe5qzu-00039-00015200-00015319 um a0AxKNe5qzu-00040-00015319-00015550 roberta would use this is for check-in a0AxKNe5qzu-00041-00015551-00015815 during roll call is that you or easter a0AxKNe5qzu-00042-00015816-00016063 that's me okay please a0AxKNe5qzu-00043-00016063-00016247 uh city of katahdi a0AxKNe5qzu-00044-00016247-00016471 rick scott city of katari here a0AxKNe5qzu-00045-00016472-00016711 city of petaluma a0AxKNe5qzu-00046-00016712-00017015 mike mourinho city of paluma a0AxKNe5qzu-00047-00017016-00017263 city of roanoke park very grace boston a0AxKNe5qzu-00048-00017264-00017422 city park a0AxKNe5qzu-00049-00017423-00017607 city of santa rosa a0AxKNe5qzu-00050-00017608-00017911 yeah peter martin city of santa rosa a0AxKNe5qzu-00051-00017912-00018255 city of sonoma a0AxKNe5qzu-00052-00018256-00018463 north marin water district a0AxKNe5qzu-00053-00018464-00018630 drew mcintyre north rail water a0AxKNe5qzu-00054-00018631-00018814 restraints a0AxKNe5qzu-00055-00018815-00019007 town of windsor a0AxKNe5qzu-00056-00019008-00019279 christina lars town of windsor a0AxKNe5qzu-00057-00019280-00019711 valley of the moon water district a0AxKNe5qzu-00058-00019712-00019886 and marine marine municipal water a0AxKNe5qzu-00059-00019887-00019999 district a0AxKNe5qzu-00060-00020000-00020294 uh paul celia marin municipal a0AxKNe5qzu-00061-00020295-00020543 and other attendees include brenda a0AxKNe5qzu-00062-00020544-00020863 edelman chelsea thompson claire nordly a0AxKNe5qzu-00063-00020864-00021150 colin klose kimberly a0AxKNe5qzu-00064-00021151-00021335 matt wagula a0AxKNe5qzu-00065-00021336-00021591 paul selsky stephen hancock and tony a0AxKNe5qzu-00066-00021592-00021975 williams a0AxKNe5qzu-00067-00021976-00022399 okay thank you roberta a0AxKNe5qzu-00068-00022400-00022527 next thing a0AxKNe5qzu-00069-00022528-00022822 on the agenda is just to go ahead and a0AxKNe5qzu-00070-00022823-00022991 continue to a0AxKNe5qzu-00071-00022992-00023214 adopt a resolution a0AxKNe5qzu-00072-00023215-00023575 to authorize um continued a0AxKNe5qzu-00073-00023576-00023855 remote or teleconference meetings so we a0AxKNe5qzu-00074-00023856-00024158 have this essential on each agenda a0AxKNe5qzu-00075-00024159-00024367 uh pretty similar to the ones we did a0AxKNe5qzu-00076-00024368-00024511 before so a0AxKNe5qzu-00077-00024512-00024839 i'm just are there any questions a0AxKNe5qzu-00078-00024840-00024942 from a0AxKNe5qzu-00079-00024943-00025494 the attack on this item a0AxKNe5qzu-00080-00025495-00025711 saying done i'll open it up for public a0AxKNe5qzu-00081-00025712-00025950 comment again this is agenda item number a0AxKNe5qzu-00082-00025951-00026039 two a0AxKNe5qzu-00083-00026039-00026206 if you wish to make a public comment a0AxKNe5qzu-00084-00026207-00026414 please raise your hand via zoom or dial a0AxKNe5qzu-00085-00026416-00026839 star 9 via phone a0AxKNe5qzu-00086-00026839-00027055 we do have a public comment from brenda a0AxKNe5qzu-00087-00027056-00027662 edelman i will unmute you a0AxKNe5qzu-00088-00027663-00027799 go ahead brenda a0AxKNe5qzu-00089-00027800-00028070 good morning you hear me yeah a0AxKNe5qzu-00090-00028072-00028367 okay good thank you very much um a0AxKNe5qzu-00091-00028368-00028807 i have a question to ask um a0AxKNe5qzu-00092-00028808-00028935 and a0AxKNe5qzu-00093-00028936-00029295 basically a friend of mine sent me an ij a0AxKNe5qzu-00094-00029295-00029574 independent journal article a0AxKNe5qzu-00095-00029575-00029918 a few weeks ago and a0AxKNe5qzu-00096-00029919-00030174 it mentioned that a0AxKNe5qzu-00097-00030175-00030431 i believe it was north marin was a0AxKNe5qzu-00098-00030432-00030735 planning on purchasing a0AxKNe5qzu-00099-00030736-00031055 extra water from the water agency a0AxKNe5qzu-00100-00031056-00031287 i had the sense it was in the near a0AxKNe5qzu-00101-00031288-00031495 future a0AxKNe5qzu-00102-00031495-00031774 perhaps it's happened already a0AxKNe5qzu-00103-00031775-00032118 and the idea being that they a0AxKNe5qzu-00104-00032119-00032262 wanted their a0AxKNe5qzu-00105-00032263-00032567 reservoirs to be full at the start of a0AxKNe5qzu-00106-00032568-00032735 the winter a0AxKNe5qzu-00107-00032736-00032879 and a0AxKNe5qzu-00108-00032880-00033127 the lake mendocino has been pretty much a0AxKNe5qzu-00109-00033128-00033374 running at 20 a0AxKNe5qzu-00110-00033375-00033718 in terms of a0AxKNe5qzu-00111-00033719-00033918 the amount of uh a0AxKNe5qzu-00112-00033919-00034183 water in it in spite of the big rains in a0AxKNe5qzu-00113-00034184-00034311 october a0AxKNe5qzu-00114-00034312-00034415 brenda a0AxKNe5qzu-00115-00034416-00034695 yeah brenda um this is this is we're a0AxKNe5qzu-00116-00034696-00034879 actually on agenda item number two which a0AxKNe5qzu-00117-00034880-00035039 is just adopt the resolution and a0AxKNe5qzu-00118-00035040-00035318 continue to authorize i'm sorry a0AxKNe5qzu-00119-00035319-00035567 teleconference i'm sorry i thought we a0AxKNe5qzu-00120-00035568-00035830 were in public comment no so that'll be a0AxKNe5qzu-00121-00035831-00035959 coming right up a0AxKNe5qzu-00122-00035960-00036215 okay i'm very sorry no problem no a0AxKNe5qzu-00123-00036216-00036367 problem at all a0AxKNe5qzu-00124-00036368-00036567 any other public comment on agenda item a0AxKNe5qzu-00125-00036568-00036799 number two to reauthorize meetings by a0AxKNe5qzu-00126-00036800-00036999 teleconference a0AxKNe5qzu-00127-00037000-00037223 i do not see any hands raised a0AxKNe5qzu-00128-00037224-00037446 okay then i'll bring it back to the a0AxKNe5qzu-00129-00037447-00037695 attack then i'm looking for a motion in a0AxKNe5qzu-00130-00037696-00038143 the seconds a0AxKNe5qzu-00131-00038144-00038351 move to approve craig scott city of a0AxKNe5qzu-00132-00038352-00039039 kentucky a0AxKNe5qzu-00133-00039040-00039318 okay thank you or we've received a a0AxKNe5qzu-00134-00039319-00039646 motion by katai seconded by a0AxKNe5qzu-00135-00039647-00039846 roner park a0AxKNe5qzu-00136-00039847-00039959 and then a0AxKNe5qzu-00137-00039960-00040159 roberto could you please do a roll call a0AxKNe5qzu-00138-00040160-00040318 for the vote a0AxKNe5qzu-00139-00040319-00040502 city of katahdi a0AxKNe5qzu-00140-00040503-00040735 greg scott city of qatar yes a0AxKNe5qzu-00141-00040736-00040990 city of petaluma a0AxKNe5qzu-00142-00040991-00041262 mike elmorini city of petaluma yes a0AxKNe5qzu-00143-00041263-00042095 city roanoke park a0AxKNe5qzu-00144-00042096-00042655 city brawner park a0AxKNe5qzu-00145-00042656-00042862 oh barry grace carlson city bonaparte a0AxKNe5qzu-00146-00042863-00042974 yes a0AxKNe5qzu-00147-00042975-00043255 city of santa rosa a0AxKNe5qzu-00148-00043256-00043567 peter martin city of santa rosa yes a0AxKNe5qzu-00149-00043568-00043767 city of sonoma a0AxKNe5qzu-00150-00043768-00044102 only ferguson city of tsunami yes a0AxKNe5qzu-00151-00044103-00044343 north marine water district a0AxKNe5qzu-00152-00044344-00044623 mcintyre north northwater district yes a0AxKNe5qzu-00153-00044624-00044846 town of windsor a0AxKNe5qzu-00154-00044847-00045062 christina gillard town of a0AxKNe5qzu-00155-00045063-00045183 s a0AxKNe5qzu-00156-00045184-00045751 valley of the moon water district a0AxKNe5qzu-00157-00045752-00045911 that motion passes a0AxKNe5qzu-00158-00045912-00046190 okay thank you roberta a0AxKNe5qzu-00159-00046191-00046462 okay uh now we're getting going to move a0AxKNe5qzu-00160-00046463-00046830 to public comment um agenda item number a0AxKNe5qzu-00161-00046831-00047007 three so a0AxKNe5qzu-00162-00047008-00047262 brenda are you still there yes i'm still a0AxKNe5qzu-00163-00047263-00047462 here okay um a0AxKNe5qzu-00164-00047463-00047655 and i didn't mean to cut you off there i a0AxKNe5qzu-00165-00047656-00047751 want to just a0AxKNe5qzu-00166-00047752-00047943 save some of your a0AxKNe5qzu-00167-00047944-00048262 i heard the two words public comment a0AxKNe5qzu-00168-00048263-00048502 and i guess i wasn't paying close enough a0AxKNe5qzu-00169-00048503-00048790 attention i apologize for that a0AxKNe5qzu-00170-00048791-00048871 um a0AxKNe5qzu-00171-00048872-00048951 so a0AxKNe5qzu-00172-00048952-00049367 at any rate i saw this ij article that a0AxKNe5qzu-00173-00049368-00049662 spoke about um i'm pretty sure it was a0AxKNe5qzu-00174-00049663-00049974 north marin was planning or has done a0AxKNe5qzu-00175-00049975-00050143 already a0AxKNe5qzu-00176-00050144-00050279 a purchase a0AxKNe5qzu-00177-00050280-00050543 in order to fill the reservoir in a0AxKNe5qzu-00178-00050544-00050983 advance of the winter rains this season a0AxKNe5qzu-00179-00050984-00051102 and a0AxKNe5qzu-00180-00051103-00051423 i don't know how what amount of water a0AxKNe5qzu-00181-00051424-00051694 they were going to purchase or what a0AxKNe5qzu-00182-00051695-00051999 impact that would have on the 20 a0AxKNe5qzu-00183-00052000-00052399 that's currently in lake mendocino a0AxKNe5qzu-00184-00052400-00052679 but i know there's a lot of concern both a0AxKNe5qzu-00185-00052679-00052959 at the state and local regional level a0AxKNe5qzu-00186-00052960-00053071 levels a0AxKNe5qzu-00187-00053072-00053182 about a0AxKNe5qzu-00188-00053183-00053407 maintaining water supply through next a0AxKNe5qzu-00189-00053408-00053503 year a0AxKNe5qzu-00190-00053504-00053775 because the predictions have been a0AxKNe5qzu-00191-00053776-00054135 very dire in terms of the expectation a0AxKNe5qzu-00192-00054136-00054407 for rainfall in the coming a0AxKNe5qzu-00193-00054408-00054623 four months or so a0AxKNe5qzu-00194-00054624-00054735 and a0AxKNe5qzu-00195-00054736-00055030 i'm just wondering um a0AxKNe5qzu-00196-00055032-00055311 what is happening with that what are the a0AxKNe5qzu-00197-00055312-00055582 plans to move forward a0AxKNe5qzu-00198-00055583-00055903 are there any other um a0AxKNe5qzu-00199-00055904-00056119 water agencies that are planning on a0AxKNe5qzu-00200-00056120-00056366 doing something similar a0AxKNe5qzu-00201-00056367-00056471 and a0AxKNe5qzu-00202-00056472-00056750 if new limits should be kicked in a0AxKNe5qzu-00203-00056751-00057087 because of the need to conserve more a0AxKNe5qzu-00204-00057088-00057191 water a0AxKNe5qzu-00205-00057191-00057407 the state has been coming down really a0AxKNe5qzu-00206-00057408-00057703 hard statewide in terms of new a0AxKNe5qzu-00207-00057704-00057903 requirements and a0AxKNe5qzu-00208-00057904-00058135 cutting people off from water supplies a0AxKNe5qzu-00209-00058136-00058335 because of their concern a0AxKNe5qzu-00210-00058336-00058599 for having enough water for health and a0AxKNe5qzu-00211-00058600-00058882 safety purposes a0AxKNe5qzu-00212-00058883-00059366 and i i have a lot of concerns about a0AxKNe5qzu-00213-00059367-00059463 um a0AxKNe5qzu-00214-00059464-00059775 large purchases of water before a0AxKNe5qzu-00215-00059776-00060063 uh we have a better idea what's a0AxKNe5qzu-00216-00060064-00060282 happening this winter with a0AxKNe5qzu-00217-00060283-00060559 rainfall so um a0AxKNe5qzu-00218-00060560-00060806 i'd like more information on it what the a0AxKNe5qzu-00219-00060807-00061023 plans are um a0AxKNe5qzu-00220-00061024-00061254 how this is going to impact lake a0AxKNe5qzu-00221-00061255-00061526 mendocino etc and a0AxKNe5qzu-00222-00061527-00061759 if you can't tell me much today i'd like a0AxKNe5qzu-00223-00061760-00061966 to get more information in the near a0AxKNe5qzu-00224-00061967-00062215 future about this a0AxKNe5qzu-00225-00062216-00062519 so i think that's the main point of what a0AxKNe5qzu-00226-00062520-00062815 i wanted to say on this right now a0AxKNe5qzu-00227-00062816-00062926 okay a0AxKNe5qzu-00228-00062927-00063230 well i can i can answer some of your a0AxKNe5qzu-00229-00063232-00063511 questions brenda as it relates to a0AxKNe5qzu-00230-00063512-00063799 northbourne water district so yeah that a0AxKNe5qzu-00231-00063800-00064015 you're correct there was an article in a0AxKNe5qzu-00232-00064016-00064175 the marin ij a0AxKNe5qzu-00233-00064176-00064366 indicating that we're looking at a0AxKNe5qzu-00234-00064367-00064615 starting to a0AxKNe5qzu-00235-00064616-00064966 purchase excess natural flows a0AxKNe5qzu-00236-00064967-00065135 that are in the russian river during the a0AxKNe5qzu-00237-00065136-00065335 winter time and this is similar to what a0AxKNe5qzu-00238-00065336-00065503 we did last year a0AxKNe5qzu-00239-00065504-00065823 we did it last year a0AxKNe5qzu-00240-00065824-00066126 in late february and we're looking at um a0AxKNe5qzu-00241-00066127-00066479 starting it earlier this year in in a0AxKNe5qzu-00242-00066480-00066879 uh december i the total amount will a0AxKNe5qzu-00243-00066880-00067079 i don't know yet last year the total a0AxKNe5qzu-00244-00067080-00067311 amount uh over the season was about a a0AxKNe5qzu-00245-00067312-00067543 thousand acre feet a0AxKNe5qzu-00246-00067544-00067863 and by purchasing this uh these natural a0AxKNe5qzu-00247-00067864-00068015 flows a0AxKNe5qzu-00248-00068016-00068167 in the russian river a0AxKNe5qzu-00249-00068168-00068294 when they are a0AxKNe5qzu-00250-00068295-00068487 where there are natural flows it allows a0AxKNe5qzu-00251-00068488-00068663 us to a0AxKNe5qzu-00252-00068664-00068919 store the water and then use it in the a0AxKNe5qzu-00253-00068920-00069135 summer months and then a0AxKNe5qzu-00254-00069136-00069343 and actually when we have it available a0AxKNe5qzu-00255-00069344-00069511 in summer months then a0AxKNe5qzu-00256-00069512-00069719 we don't need to a0AxKNe5qzu-00257-00069720-00069863 um a0AxKNe5qzu-00258-00069864-00070119 purchase as much from sonoma county a0AxKNe5qzu-00259-00070120-00070303 water agency when a0AxKNe5qzu-00260-00070304-00070526 flows in the russian river are more a0AxKNe5qzu-00261-00070527-00070694 critical so a0AxKNe5qzu-00262-00070695-00070919 that's kind of and we we've been doing a0AxKNe5qzu-00263-00070920-00071087 this as part of the restructured a0AxKNe5qzu-00264-00071088-00071231 agreement a0AxKNe5qzu-00265-00071232-00071326 um a0AxKNe5qzu-00266-00071327-00071479 that when water is available in the a0AxKNe5qzu-00267-00071480-00071815 winter time a0AxKNe5qzu-00268-00071816-00072071 we've been doing it off and on for over a0AxKNe5qzu-00269-00072072-00072255 30 years a0AxKNe5qzu-00270-00072256-00072438 depending upon the actual water year a0AxKNe5qzu-00271-00072439-00072838 obviously as far as how that impacts a0AxKNe5qzu-00272-00072839-00073143 lake mendocino reservoir i mean i could a0AxKNe5qzu-00273-00073144-00073303 i could speak to that but i think i a0AxKNe5qzu-00274-00073304-00073575 would probably best to let don seymour a0AxKNe5qzu-00275-00073576-00073823 jay jasper's since eight since the a0AxKNe5qzu-00276-00073824-00074071 agency's kind of managing the russian a0AxKNe5qzu-00277-00074072-00074215 river to a0AxKNe5qzu-00278-00074216-00074479 to speak on that a0AxKNe5qzu-00279-00074480-00074831 yeah i'd be happy to drew so um brenda a0AxKNe5qzu-00280-00074832-00075071 the the key the key comment that drew a0AxKNe5qzu-00281-00075072-00075206 made it's natural flow this is a0AxKNe5qzu-00282-00075207-00075335 unimpaired a0AxKNe5qzu-00283-00075336-00075591 inflow from the tributaries we're making a0AxKNe5qzu-00284-00075592-00075750 minimum releases from the reservoirs a0AxKNe5qzu-00285-00075751-00075919 right now a0AxKNe5qzu-00286-00075920-00076055 the water that a0AxKNe5qzu-00287-00076056-00076271 drew would be purchasing would not be a0AxKNe5qzu-00288-00076272-00076479 stored water out of either lake sonoma a0AxKNe5qzu-00289-00076480-00076662 or lake mendocino a0AxKNe5qzu-00290-00076663-00076782 so a0AxKNe5qzu-00291-00076783-00076935 and they're able to do that right now a0AxKNe5qzu-00292-00076936-00077159 because flows at hacienda bridge or over a0AxKNe5qzu-00293-00077160-00077391 250 cubic feet per second and that's a0AxKNe5qzu-00294-00077392-00077606 that's basically comprised of a0AxKNe5qzu-00295-00077607-00077735 what you know water coming from the a0AxKNe5qzu-00296-00077736-00077950 watershed still from those a0AxKNe5qzu-00297-00077951-00078247 that that big october atmospheric river a0AxKNe5qzu-00298-00078248-00078487 event that we experienced a0AxKNe5qzu-00299-00078488-00078726 and i i'll just add in brenda that the a0AxKNe5qzu-00300-00078727-00079087 state water resources control board has a0AxKNe5qzu-00301-00079088-00079335 suspended their curtailments so that all a0AxKNe5qzu-00302-00079336-00079479 water users a0AxKNe5qzu-00303-00079480-00079703 including sonoma water can utilize this a0AxKNe5qzu-00304-00079704-00079847 natural flow a0AxKNe5qzu-00305-00079848-00080135 to help with uh potential a0AxKNe5qzu-00306-00080136-00080343 persistence of a drought so a0AxKNe5qzu-00307-00080344-00080519 this has all been done in close a0AxKNe5qzu-00308-00080520-00080694 coordination with the approvals of the a0AxKNe5qzu-00309-00080695-00080950 state board also a0AxKNe5qzu-00310-00080951-00081311 can i say one more thing um a0AxKNe5qzu-00311-00081312-00081535 i have a0AxKNe5qzu-00312-00081536-00081799 the numbers i think at one point the a0AxKNe5qzu-00313-00081800-00081926 river hit a0AxKNe5qzu-00314-00081927-00082343 around 22 000 cfs in october a0AxKNe5qzu-00315-00082344-00082687 it's now down to under 300 a0AxKNe5qzu-00316-00082688-00083006 and it's been going down rapidly a0AxKNe5qzu-00317-00083007-00083271 and at what point do you say the lower a0AxKNe5qzu-00318-00083272-00083587 river needs some water a0AxKNe5qzu-00319-00083588-00083903 250 isn't much and a0AxKNe5qzu-00320-00083904-00084062 there are a0AxKNe5qzu-00321-00084063-00084318 all kinds of impacts to the lower river a0AxKNe5qzu-00322-00084319-00084599 as that water gets lower and lower a0AxKNe5qzu-00323-00084600-00084838 um and i'm just wondering if you a0AxKNe5qzu-00324-00084839-00085055 consider any of that when you a0AxKNe5qzu-00325-00085056-00085975 take this water away from us a0AxKNe5qzu-00326-00085976-00086111 well um a0AxKNe5qzu-00327-00086112-00086406 right now brenda under um a0AxKNe5qzu-00328-00086407-00086647 the order for that approving our a0AxKNe5qzu-00329-00086648-00086815 temporaries to change petition back in a0AxKNe5qzu-00330-00086816-00087023 may a0AxKNe5qzu-00331-00087024-00087238 the minimum stream flow requirement a0AxKNe5qzu-00332-00087239-00087543 up until december 11th is 35 cubic feet a0AxKNe5qzu-00333-00087544-00087687 per second a0AxKNe5qzu-00334-00087688-00087918 and in that order where sonoma waters a0AxKNe5qzu-00335-00087919-00088062 also a0AxKNe5qzu-00336-00088063-00088287 was required to a0AxKNe5qzu-00337-00088288-00088503 coordinate with the north coast regional a0AxKNe5qzu-00338-00088504-00088694 water quality control board a0AxKNe5qzu-00339-00088695-00088950 on a water quality monitoring plan to a0AxKNe5qzu-00340-00088951-00089062 ensure a0AxKNe5qzu-00341-00089063-00089247 um a0AxKNe5qzu-00342-00089248-00089462 ensure that we were looking for any type a0AxKNe5qzu-00343-00089463-00089679 of water quality impacts a0AxKNe5qzu-00344-00089680-00089887 and we report on that weekly to in a a0AxKNe5qzu-00345-00089888-00090055 hydrologic report that we submit to the a0AxKNe5qzu-00346-00090056-00090247 state water resources control board a0AxKNe5qzu-00347-00090248-00090423 that's also a requirement of that order a0AxKNe5qzu-00348-00090424-00090671 so yes we we do consider a0AxKNe5qzu-00349-00090672-00090918 impacts to our from our diversions on a0AxKNe5qzu-00350-00090919-00091055 the lower river a0AxKNe5qzu-00351-00091056-00091382 excuse me don but i went on your website a0AxKNe5qzu-00352-00091383-00091615 and was looking for water quality data a0AxKNe5qzu-00353-00091616-00091967 and couldn't find any a0AxKNe5qzu-00354-00091968-00092143 it's contained in those hydrologic a0AxKNe5qzu-00355-00092144-00092382 reports a0AxKNe5qzu-00356-00092383-00092591 well i was looking through everything a0AxKNe5qzu-00357-00092592-00092847 and couldn't find it a0AxKNe5qzu-00358-00092848-00093094 if you can send me a a0AxKNe5qzu-00359-00093095-00093350 link i'd appreciate it yeah we certainly a0AxKNe5qzu-00360-00093351-00093694 could do that brenda a0AxKNe5qzu-00361-00093695-00093943 hey thank you bro one other thing i've a0AxKNe5qzu-00362-00093944-00094174 been trying to get is the a0AxKNe5qzu-00363-00094175-00094271 water a0AxKNe5qzu-00364-00094272-00094574 water sales data since about a0AxKNe5qzu-00365-00094575-00094767 june of this year a0AxKNe5qzu-00366-00094768-00095015 has not been entered on your charts you a0AxKNe5qzu-00367-00095016-00095199 have not been keeping up a0AxKNe5qzu-00368-00095200-00095287 the a0AxKNe5qzu-00369-00095288-00095503 water a0AxKNe5qzu-00370-00095504-00095774 i think it's referred to as water sales a0AxKNe5qzu-00371-00095775-00095999 under the contractors a0AxKNe5qzu-00372-00096000-00096311 the chart is empty since a0AxKNe5qzu-00373-00096312-00096647 about june of 21 so a0AxKNe5qzu-00374-00096648-00096855 i'd appreciate it if you could keep that a0AxKNe5qzu-00375-00096856-00097159 data updated as well a0AxKNe5qzu-00376-00097160-00097343 yeah i'll look into that a0AxKNe5qzu-00377-00097344-00097559 thank you a0AxKNe5qzu-00378-00097560-00097903 okay thanks brenda any other comments um a0AxKNe5qzu-00379-00097904-00098079 from the public a0AxKNe5qzu-00380-00098080-00098311 again we're agenda item three public a0AxKNe5qzu-00381-00098312-00098526 comments a0AxKNe5qzu-00382-00098527-00098838 i do not see any other hands raised a0AxKNe5qzu-00383-00098839-00099103 okay as i close the public comment i do a0AxKNe5qzu-00384-00099104-00099374 want to take this opportunity to a0AxKNe5qzu-00385-00099375-00099582 make a comment myself on something that a0AxKNe5qzu-00386-00099583-00099823 i heard on friday from a0AxKNe5qzu-00387-00099824-00100182 colleen aka fergie ferguson a0AxKNe5qzu-00388-00100183-00100391 who is going to be retiring at the end a0AxKNe5qzu-00389-00100392-00100582 of this month a0AxKNe5qzu-00390-00100583-00100662 so a0AxKNe5qzu-00391-00100663-00101031 it i would be remiss to not um take a a0AxKNe5qzu-00392-00101032-00101247 moment here as part of our tech meeting a0AxKNe5qzu-00393-00101248-00101359 and a0AxKNe5qzu-00394-00101360-00101567 and uh a0AxKNe5qzu-00395-00101568-00101743 tell colleen you know how much i've a0AxKNe5qzu-00396-00101744-00101918 enjoyed working with you and your a0AxKNe5qzu-00397-00101919-00102174 participation and attack over these a0AxKNe5qzu-00398-00102175-00102350 years and a0AxKNe5qzu-00399-00102351-00102606 and uh we will miss you but at the same a0AxKNe5qzu-00400-00102607-00102871 time i'm really excited for you you know a0AxKNe5qzu-00401-00102872-00103190 um for your own personal endeavors and a0AxKNe5qzu-00402-00103191-00103439 opportunities that lie ahead a0AxKNe5qzu-00403-00103440-00103742 uh for you in 2022 so i just want to a0AxKNe5qzu-00404-00103743-00103951 wish you the best and a0AxKNe5qzu-00405-00103952-00104094 and um a0AxKNe5qzu-00406-00104095-00104302 let you know that you know how to keep a0AxKNe5qzu-00407-00104303-00104527 us informed of whatever you're doing as a0AxKNe5qzu-00408-00104528-00104847 you as you uh go beyond the a0AxKNe5qzu-00409-00104848-00105078 city of sonoma there so a0AxKNe5qzu-00410-00105079-00105254 i don't know if anybody else wants to a0AxKNe5qzu-00411-00105255-00105375 make any a0AxKNe5qzu-00412-00105376-00105543 comments as well but now would be the a0AxKNe5qzu-00413-00105544-00105863 opportunity a0AxKNe5qzu-00414-00105864-00106095 thank you so much drew that's very kind a0AxKNe5qzu-00415-00106096-00106175 and a0AxKNe5qzu-00416-00106176-00106454 love working with everybody here and i'm a0AxKNe5qzu-00417-00106455-00106639 looking forward to more time playing in a0AxKNe5qzu-00418-00106640-00106831 water than sitting at a desk talking a0AxKNe5qzu-00419-00106832-00107054 about it a0AxKNe5qzu-00420-00107055-00107383 great great well we wish you the best so a0AxKNe5qzu-00421-00107383-00107639 so don't be a stranger a0AxKNe5qzu-00422-00107640-00107743 thank you a0AxKNe5qzu-00423-00107744-00107895 okay a0AxKNe5qzu-00424-00107896-00108063 all right um a0AxKNe5qzu-00425-00108064-00108375 let's move on now to agenda item number a0AxKNe5qzu-00426-00108376-00108758 four this is the fy 20 2021 sonoma a0AxKNe5qzu-00427-00108759-00108966 county water agency water transmission a0AxKNe5qzu-00428-00108967-00109063 system a0AxKNe5qzu-00429-00109064-00109295 budget year-end report a0AxKNe5qzu-00430-00109296-00109519 i believe this is going to be a a0AxKNe5qzu-00431-00109520-00109895 presentation by lynn roselli a0AxKNe5qzu-00432-00109896-00110086 good morning tech members this is lynne a0AxKNe5qzu-00433-00110088-00110407 roscelli i'm going to go ahead and a0AxKNe5qzu-00434-00110408-00110527 okay so you're going to show those a0AxKNe5qzu-00435-00110528-00110743 slides okay that's fine so you will a0AxKNe5qzu-00436-00110744-00111063 advance them for me then a0AxKNe5qzu-00437-00111064-00111254 uh so a0AxKNe5qzu-00438-00111255-00111502 uh a0AxKNe5qzu-00439-00111503-00111878 let's go ahead and start um a0AxKNe5qzu-00440-00111879-00112102 uh so the water transmission system uh a0AxKNe5qzu-00441-00112103-00112278 we are providing you with the water a0AxKNe5qzu-00442-00112279-00112566 transmission system budget recap a0AxKNe5qzu-00443-00112567-00112790 uh it took uh a0AxKNe5qzu-00444-00112791-00113134 jake spaulding um finance manager myself a0AxKNe5qzu-00445-00113135-00113319 and uh working with a lot of project a0AxKNe5qzu-00446-00113320-00113583 managers uh to get updated information a0AxKNe5qzu-00447-00113583-00113902 on fiscal year ending 2021 which was a0AxKNe5qzu-00448-00113903-00114215 june 30th of 2021. uh to put this a0AxKNe5qzu-00449-00114216-00114390 together so many thanks to the whole a0AxKNe5qzu-00450-00114391-00114486 team a0AxKNe5qzu-00451-00114488-00114583 uh a0AxKNe5qzu-00452-00114583-00114790 i'm lynne rosselli i'm the division a0AxKNe5qzu-00453-00114791-00115031 manager for administration and finance a0AxKNe5qzu-00454-00115032-00115327 jake spalding is the finance manager a0AxKNe5qzu-00455-00115328-00115478 we uh a0AxKNe5qzu-00456-00115479-00115727 we put together this information for you a0AxKNe5qzu-00457-00115728-00115919 we do it on an annual basis and this is a0AxKNe5qzu-00458-00115920-00116127 the first presentation that we do we're a0AxKNe5qzu-00459-00116128-00116295 in the midst of preparing the next a0AxKNe5qzu-00460-00116296-00116510 fiscal year's budget a0AxKNe5qzu-00461-00116511-00116727 water deliveries make up the backbone of a0AxKNe5qzu-00462-00116728-00116999 the water transmission system a0AxKNe5qzu-00463-00117000-00117110 budget a0AxKNe5qzu-00464-00117111-00117502 water deliveries were 8 100 acre feet a0AxKNe5qzu-00465-00117503-00117758 more than budgeted the budget was based a0AxKNe5qzu-00466-00117759-00117975 on 12 months of deliveries ending a0AxKNe5qzu-00467-00117976-00118271 december 31 2019 a0AxKNe5qzu-00468-00118272-00118447 and we're required to take the lower of a0AxKNe5qzu-00469-00118448-00118647 the 12 months and the three-year annual a0AxKNe5qzu-00470-00118648-00118927 average and so for 2021 the lowest was a0AxKNe5qzu-00471-00118928-00119134 the 12 months of deliveries a0AxKNe5qzu-00472-00119135-00119407 uh that is particularly low i believe a0AxKNe5qzu-00473-00119408-00119678 because we had a very wet uh winter that a0AxKNe5qzu-00474-00119679-00119823 particular year a0AxKNe5qzu-00475-00119824-00120031 um and and so deliveries actual a0AxKNe5qzu-00476-00120032-00120239 deliveries came in uh budgeted a0AxKNe5qzu-00477-00120240-00120399 deliveries where i'm sorry budget a0AxKNe5qzu-00478-00120400-00120654 deliveries were um were low for that 12 a0AxKNe5qzu-00479-00120655-00120902 month period a0AxKNe5qzu-00480-00120903-00121319 deliveries are very sensitive to a0AxKNe5qzu-00481-00121320-00121471 weather a0AxKNe5qzu-00482-00121472-00121631 climatic events a0AxKNe5qzu-00483-00121632-00121863 flood drought other a0AxKNe5qzu-00484-00121864-00122207 natural hazards um the economy a0AxKNe5qzu-00485-00122208-00122295 and a0AxKNe5qzu-00486-00122296-00122478 how much the water country water a0AxKNe5qzu-00487-00122479-00122663 contractors are using their own sources a0AxKNe5qzu-00488-00122664-00122958 versus using sonoma water sources a0AxKNe5qzu-00489-00122959-00123263 and so it does vary quite a bit but in a0AxKNe5qzu-00490-00123264-00123343 um a0AxKNe5qzu-00491-00123344-00123543 we're looking at the data for the next a0AxKNe5qzu-00492-00123544-00123790 budget cycle and it looks as though it a0AxKNe5qzu-00493-00123791-00123951 is going to be the three year annual a0AxKNe5qzu-00494-00123952-00124214 average and maybe in the range of about a0AxKNe5qzu-00495-00124215-00124463 46 000 acre feet a0AxKNe5qzu-00496-00124464-00124671 and we'll have to have discussions uh a0AxKNe5qzu-00497-00124672-00124902 ongoing regarding whether or not a0AxKNe5qzu-00498-00124903-00125071 because of the drought conditions if it a0AxKNe5qzu-00499-00125072-00125302 persists whether or not we want the tax a0AxKNe5qzu-00500-00125303-00125414 the whack a0AxKNe5qzu-00501-00125415-00125631 to approve a lower budgeted water a0AxKNe5qzu-00502-00125632-00125823 deliveries going forward a0AxKNe5qzu-00503-00125824-00126031 next slide please a0AxKNe5qzu-00504-00126032-00126214 so the revenues and expenditures are a0AxKNe5qzu-00505-00126215-00126478 shown here um a0AxKNe5qzu-00506-00126479-00126758 revenues um for the water transmission a0AxKNe5qzu-00507-00126759-00127110 system make up 90 more than 95 a0AxKNe5qzu-00508-00127111-00127383 water sales make up more than 95 of the a0AxKNe5qzu-00509-00127383-00127599 revenue that we receive a0AxKNe5qzu-00510-00127600-00127831 and in this particular fiscal year a0AxKNe5qzu-00511-00127832-00128054 we also saw revenue from interest income a0AxKNe5qzu-00512-00128055-00128214 very little a0AxKNe5qzu-00513-00128215-00128534 and from grants but more than 95 percent a0AxKNe5qzu-00514-00128535-00128814 is from water sales and thus we sold a0AxKNe5qzu-00515-00128815-00128951 more water a0AxKNe5qzu-00516-00128952-00129143 the reason the revenues are a little bit a0AxKNe5qzu-00517-00129144-00129263 lower there a0AxKNe5qzu-00518-00129264-00129519 is because we had budgeted um a0AxKNe5qzu-00519-00129520-00129758 a lot of revenue from fema but because a0AxKNe5qzu-00520-00129759-00129943 two projects did not go to construction a0AxKNe5qzu-00521-00129944-00130054 we did not a0AxKNe5qzu-00522-00130055-00130166 receive a0AxKNe5qzu-00523-00130167-00130278 that a0AxKNe5qzu-00524-00130279-00130519 revenue so the actuals are lower than a0AxKNe5qzu-00525-00130520-00130719 what we would have anticipated a0AxKNe5qzu-00526-00130720-00130934 um and on the expenditure side we spent a0AxKNe5qzu-00527-00130935-00131151 less we spent 23 percent less than we a0AxKNe5qzu-00528-00131152-00131302 had budgeted a0AxKNe5qzu-00529-00131303-00131495 and that we believe is in part due to a0AxKNe5qzu-00530-00131496-00131663 the fact that um a0AxKNe5qzu-00531-00131664-00131911 there were shifts in resources because a0AxKNe5qzu-00532-00131912-00132207 of um working under covet conditions we a0AxKNe5qzu-00533-00132208-00132423 had fires um a0AxKNe5qzu-00534-00132424-00132639 in the fall of 2020 a0AxKNe5qzu-00535-00132640-00132799 and um a0AxKNe5qzu-00536-00132800-00133039 and so so resources were shifted a0AxKNe5qzu-00537-00133040-00133166 somewhat away from the water a0AxKNe5qzu-00538-00133167-00133327 transmission system but then they got a0AxKNe5qzu-00539-00133328-00133502 shifted back a0AxKNe5qzu-00540-00133503-00133702 as the drought a0AxKNe5qzu-00541-00133703-00133983 emergency began to take hold and we we a0AxKNe5qzu-00542-00133984-00134247 began to spend more money in water a0AxKNe5qzu-00543-00134248-00134407 transmission system to address the a0AxKNe5qzu-00544-00134408-00134583 drought conditions a0AxKNe5qzu-00545-00134584-00134766 and i'll go into more detail about the a0AxKNe5qzu-00546-00134767-00134902 revenue and expenditures as we go a0AxKNe5qzu-00547-00134903-00135199 forward here so next slide please a0AxKNe5qzu-00548-00135200-00135375 so this is just a chart to give you a a0AxKNe5qzu-00549-00135376-00135575 visual of um a0AxKNe5qzu-00550-00135576-00135799 of the expenditures and where where they a0AxKNe5qzu-00551-00135800-00136087 are so the revenue that comes in is a0AxKNe5qzu-00552-00136088-00136366 spent on 57 percent is spent on a0AxKNe5qzu-00553-00136367-00136575 operations and maintenance uh followed a0AxKNe5qzu-00554-00136576-00136799 by capital projects and compliance with a0AxKNe5qzu-00555-00136800-00137031 the biological opinion and doing all of a0AxKNe5qzu-00556-00137032-00137223 the water use efficiency a0AxKNe5qzu-00557-00137224-00137543 outreach and education uh both uh for a0AxKNe5qzu-00558-00137544-00137766 the community as a whole and for our a0AxKNe5qzu-00559-00137767-00137999 students in schools and then debt a0AxKNe5qzu-00560-00138000-00138247 service and so this is what uh a0AxKNe5qzu-00561-00138248-00138583 the revenue um is spent on and in what a0AxKNe5qzu-00562-00138584-00139087 proportions next slide please a0AxKNe5qzu-00563-00139088-00139366 and so here's a breakdown by category of a0AxKNe5qzu-00564-00139367-00139678 where we uh spent the money and a0AxKNe5qzu-00565-00139679-00139831 you can see here that a0AxKNe5qzu-00566-00139832-00140159 um it's almost equal parts reductions in a0AxKNe5qzu-00567-00140160-00140319 operations and maintenance capital a0AxKNe5qzu-00568-00140320-00140623 projects and biological opinion in the a0AxKNe5qzu-00569-00140624-00140935 operations and maintenance section a0AxKNe5qzu-00570-00140936-00141166 we saw a0AxKNe5qzu-00571-00141167-00141487 expenditures exceed budget for a0AxKNe5qzu-00572-00141488-00141766 fuel which is not a surprise for a0AxKNe5qzu-00573-00141767-00141990 equipment rental and for laboratory a0AxKNe5qzu-00574-00141991-00142351 testing but overall we saw much lower a0AxKNe5qzu-00575-00142352-00142559 expenditures for contract services a0AxKNe5qzu-00576-00142560-00142839 because we didn't we weren't able to get a0AxKNe5qzu-00577-00142840-00143039 the contracts encumbered for the tank a0AxKNe5qzu-00578-00143040-00143199 recoat project a0AxKNe5qzu-00579-00143200-00143575 and for a few other projects a0AxKNe5qzu-00580-00143576-00143759 we worked on them but we did not get a0AxKNe5qzu-00581-00143760-00143919 them to that point so that is why a0AxKNe5qzu-00582-00143920-00144063 operations and maintenance is a little a0AxKNe5qzu-00583-00144064-00144335 bit lower for capital projects we did a0AxKNe5qzu-00584-00144336-00144519 advance a number of projects and award a0AxKNe5qzu-00585-00144520-00144631 them in a0AxKNe5qzu-00586-00144632-00144775 for construction a0AxKNe5qzu-00587-00144776-00145071 um this fiscal year but uh the mark west a0AxKNe5qzu-00588-00145072-00145223 creek crossing a0AxKNe5qzu-00589-00145224-00145454 and the santa rosa creek crossing hazard a0AxKNe5qzu-00590-00145455-00145607 seismic hazard mitigation projects a0AxKNe5qzu-00591-00145608-00145743 didn't go to construction so that a0AxKNe5qzu-00592-00145744-00146031 accounts for that lower number there a0AxKNe5qzu-00593-00146032-00146254 and then on the biological opinion and a0AxKNe5qzu-00594-00146255-00146647 water use efficiency the sub funds a0AxKNe5qzu-00595-00146648-00146878 the core did not advance a0AxKNe5qzu-00596-00146879-00147126 mile four to construction they did not a0AxKNe5qzu-00597-00147127-00147319 award the construction contract so that a0AxKNe5qzu-00598-00147320-00147454 accounts for that a0AxKNe5qzu-00599-00147455-00147623 that reduction there a0AxKNe5qzu-00600-00147624-00147951 uh next slide please a0AxKNe5qzu-00601-00147952-00148183 and so um this this the next several a0AxKNe5qzu-00602-00148184-00148311 slides are going to show you what we a0AxKNe5qzu-00603-00148312-00148614 actually did with the money um we did a0AxKNe5qzu-00604-00148615-00148743 quite a bit of work on cathodic a0AxKNe5qzu-00605-00148744-00148902 protection maintenance and there is more a0AxKNe5qzu-00606-00148903-00149078 to come it's critically important that a0AxKNe5qzu-00607-00149079-00149207 we do this it saves the water a0AxKNe5qzu-00608-00149208-00149326 contractors a0AxKNe5qzu-00609-00149327-00149543 a lot of money going forward a0AxKNe5qzu-00610-00149544-00149751 if we are able to a0AxKNe5qzu-00611-00149752-00149887 keep up with cathodic protection a0AxKNe5qzu-00612-00149888-00150063 maintenance and keep the pipelines a0AxKNe5qzu-00613-00150064-00150278 protected we completed the forestville a0AxKNe5qzu-00614-00150279-00150495 tank recoat project a0AxKNe5qzu-00615-00150496-00150654 and we worked hard to get the tank a0AxKNe5qzu-00616-00150655-00150807 maintenance program underway but there's a0AxKNe5qzu-00617-00150808-00151031 a lot more work to go there there's a a0AxKNe5qzu-00618-00151032-00151183 number of tank recoats that are a0AxKNe5qzu-00619-00151184-00151335 critically important that need to get a0AxKNe5qzu-00620-00151336-00151439 done a0AxKNe5qzu-00621-00151440-00151623 and then on the studies we advanced some a0AxKNe5qzu-00622-00151624-00151775 of the studies the regional water supply a0AxKNe5qzu-00623-00151776-00152023 resiliency study had to pivot from uh a0AxKNe5qzu-00624-00152024-00152190 the work plan that had originally been a0AxKNe5qzu-00625-00152191-00152351 established to a0AxKNe5qzu-00626-00152352-00152575 focusing primarily on drought a0AxKNe5qzu-00627-00152576-00152687 this past a0AxKNe5qzu-00628-00152688-00152935 spring and working closely with the a0AxKNe5qzu-00629-00152936-00153190 water contractors on that study and a0AxKNe5qzu-00630-00153191-00153359 drought resiliency a0AxKNe5qzu-00631-00153360-00153575 next slide please a0AxKNe5qzu-00632-00153576-00153775 then on the capital project side again a0AxKNe5qzu-00633-00153776-00153966 we advance the um a0AxKNe5qzu-00634-00153967-00154119 the designs for a number of hazard a0AxKNe5qzu-00635-00154120-00154407 mitigation projects um and we awarded a0AxKNe5qzu-00636-00154408-00154575 the russian river crossing seismic a0AxKNe5qzu-00637-00154576-00154735 hazard mitigation project it's under a0AxKNe5qzu-00638-00154736-00154895 construction now the mirabelle dam a0AxKNe5qzu-00639-00154896-00155054 bladder replacement a0AxKNe5qzu-00640-00155055-00155326 uh was awarded last fiscal year and the a0AxKNe5qzu-00641-00155327-00155623 todd rode well improvements a0AxKNe5qzu-00642-00155624-00155775 got underway very quickly during the a0AxKNe5qzu-00643-00155776-00155902 drought a0AxKNe5qzu-00644-00155903-00156126 supported by the water contractors need a0AxKNe5qzu-00645-00156127-00156319 for you know additional water supply a0AxKNe5qzu-00646-00156320-00156543 reliability so we jumped on that very a0AxKNe5qzu-00647-00156544-00156751 quickly we got that under a0AxKNe5qzu-00648-00156752-00156975 contract and we moved that project a0AxKNe5qzu-00649-00156976-00157087 forward a0AxKNe5qzu-00650-00157088-00157287 so that it could be completed during the a0AxKNe5qzu-00651-00157288-00157607 drought next slide please a0AxKNe5qzu-00652-00157608-00157823 and on the sub funds there are four sub a0AxKNe5qzu-00653-00157824-00158007 funds but the recycle water local supply a0AxKNe5qzu-00654-00158008-00158254 sub fund didn't have any a0AxKNe5qzu-00655-00158255-00158431 expenditures associated with any a0AxKNe5qzu-00656-00158432-00158647 projects associated with it uh so we a0AxKNe5qzu-00657-00158648-00158895 haven't listed it here um a0AxKNe5qzu-00658-00158896-00159111 but we did uh complete the urban water a0AxKNe5qzu-00659-00159112-00159247 management plan and submitted that to a0AxKNe5qzu-00660-00159248-00159407 the department of water resources so a0AxKNe5qzu-00661-00159408-00159607 there were expenditures there a0AxKNe5qzu-00662-00159608-00159831 we did a lot of outreach and education a0AxKNe5qzu-00663-00159832-00160078 on water use efficiency and conservation a0AxKNe5qzu-00664-00160079-00160254 around the droughts both with sonoma a0AxKNe5qzu-00665-00160255-00160487 marine saving water partnership we did a a0AxKNe5qzu-00666-00160488-00160751 lot of work with water education both a0AxKNe5qzu-00667-00160752-00161063 for the community and for our students a0AxKNe5qzu-00668-00161064-00161175 and on the watershed planning the a0AxKNe5qzu-00669-00161176-00161495 restoration side we uh we spent um funds a0AxKNe5qzu-00670-00161496-00161711 on estuary management and moving forward a0AxKNe5qzu-00671-00161712-00161887 the various projects associated with a0AxKNe5qzu-00672-00161888-00161975 that a0AxKNe5qzu-00673-00161976-00162223 uh we worked on a number of change a0AxKNe5qzu-00674-00162224-00162463 temporary urgency change petitions a0AxKNe5qzu-00675-00162464-00162695 and that have been discussed here uh a0AxKNe5qzu-00676-00162696-00162823 previously a0AxKNe5qzu-00677-00162824-00163095 um and we did some landscape resiliency a0AxKNe5qzu-00678-00163096-00163302 uh work which was fuels management work a0AxKNe5qzu-00679-00163303-00163511 uh to protect our facilities and then a0AxKNe5qzu-00680-00163512-00163671 the dry creek habitat enhancement we a0AxKNe5qzu-00681-00163672-00163911 worked on right away primarily um but a0AxKNe5qzu-00682-00163912-00164095 we're somewhat in a holding pattern a0AxKNe5qzu-00683-00164096-00164366 waiting for the corps to award um mile 4 a0AxKNe5qzu-00684-00164367-00164543 construction a0AxKNe5qzu-00685-00164544-00164783 next slide please a0AxKNe5qzu-00686-00164784-00165071 and this is just a list of the a0AxKNe5qzu-00687-00165072-00165343 bonds and loans that are outstanding a0AxKNe5qzu-00688-00165344-00165711 there are four of them and a0AxKNe5qzu-00689-00165712-00165887 so these were the actual expenditures a0AxKNe5qzu-00690-00165888-00166038 versus the budget expenditures the a0AxKNe5qzu-00691-00166039-00166199 actual expenditures are a little bit a0AxKNe5qzu-00692-00166200-00166390 lower because this represents what we a0AxKNe5qzu-00693-00166391-00166559 actually paid out in debt service but a0AxKNe5qzu-00694-00166560-00166847 the restructured agreement requires a 15 a0AxKNe5qzu-00695-00166848-00166983 surcharge a0AxKNe5qzu-00696-00166984-00167159 that surcharge a0AxKNe5qzu-00697-00167160-00167359 is maintained in the funds and is uh a0AxKNe5qzu-00698-00167360-00167566 spent on capital projects a0AxKNe5qzu-00699-00167567-00167823 um the first of these loans and bonds to a0AxKNe5qzu-00700-00167824-00168023 mature will be the state revolving loan a0AxKNe5qzu-00701-00168024-00168278 fund and that will be beginning in 2028 a0AxKNe5qzu-00702-00168279-00168478 and the others follow in the subsequent a0AxKNe5qzu-00703-00168479-00168638 years after that a0AxKNe5qzu-00704-00168639-00168878 next slide please a0AxKNe5qzu-00705-00168879-00169087 and so here are the proposed next steps a0AxKNe5qzu-00706-00169088-00169351 um and and this is a a0AxKNe5qzu-00707-00169352-00169478 draft a0AxKNe5qzu-00708-00169479-00169623 of what we think we're going to be able a0AxKNe5qzu-00709-00169624-00169838 to do we plan to try to get a draft a0AxKNe5qzu-00710-00169839-00170054 budget to the ad hoc budget subcommittee a0AxKNe5qzu-00711-00170055-00170254 by january 14th a0AxKNe5qzu-00712-00170255-00170335 um a0AxKNe5qzu-00713-00170336-00170511 and as required by the restructured a0AxKNe5qzu-00714-00170512-00170614 agreement a0AxKNe5qzu-00715-00170615-00170766 we will develop the budget with the a0AxKNe5qzu-00716-00170767-00170935 subcommittee a0AxKNe5qzu-00717-00170936-00171207 if the subcommittee is formed by um the a0AxKNe5qzu-00718-00171208-00171311 attack a0AxKNe5qzu-00719-00171312-00171487 um in january and february that will a0AxKNe5qzu-00720-00171488-00171702 happen and then the draft budget goes to a0AxKNe5qzu-00721-00171703-00171919 the tac ad hoc on monday february 7th a0AxKNe5qzu-00722-00171920-00172063 for their review a0AxKNe5qzu-00723-00172064-00172271 then there will be a attack vote on a0AxKNe5qzu-00724-00172272-00172438 monday march 7th a0AxKNe5qzu-00725-00172439-00172654 and then we present the budget to city a0AxKNe5qzu-00726-00172655-00172831 councils and district boards if that is a0AxKNe5qzu-00727-00172832-00173038 requested during the month of march if a0AxKNe5qzu-00728-00173039-00173214 that becomes needed a0AxKNe5qzu-00729-00173215-00173375 and then there will be a vote by the wac a0AxKNe5qzu-00730-00173376-00173599 on monday april 4th followed by adoption a0AxKNe5qzu-00731-00173600-00173902 by sonoma waters board and that is all i a0AxKNe5qzu-00732-00173903-00174087 have and i'm happy to answer any a0AxKNe5qzu-00733-00174088-00174238 questions you might have a0AxKNe5qzu-00734-00174239-00174438 go back to the last slide just okay a0AxKNe5qzu-00735-00174439-00174878 that's fine a0AxKNe5qzu-00736-00174879-00175071 would you like me to put less the second a0AxKNe5qzu-00737-00175072-00175295 to last slide back up oh that's okay a0AxKNe5qzu-00738-00175296-00175575 okay unless someone requests it a0AxKNe5qzu-00739-00175576-00175799 thank you lynn i appreciate this a0AxKNe5qzu-00740-00175800-00176014 presentation first thing i'll do is open a0AxKNe5qzu-00741-00176015-00176807 up the questions from the tack a0AxKNe5qzu-00742-00176808-00177199 don't see any hands raised from the tack a0AxKNe5qzu-00743-00177200-00177390 a couple a0AxKNe5qzu-00744-00177391-00177590 a question and a comment lynn that i a0AxKNe5qzu-00745-00177591-00177731 have with respect to the a0AxKNe5qzu-00746-00177732-00177911 [Music] a0AxKNe5qzu-00747-00177912-00178151 uh attack budget subcommittee yes we a0AxKNe5qzu-00748-00178152-00178502 will be forming one so rest assured um a0AxKNe5qzu-00749-00178503-00178654 you know we'll a0AxKNe5qzu-00750-00178655-00178902 have a committee put together in time a0AxKNe5qzu-00751-00178903-00179119 for the schedule that you've laid out a0AxKNe5qzu-00752-00179120-00179399 and then is there anything when i mean a0AxKNe5qzu-00753-00179400-00179790 this schedule is is pretty similar to a0AxKNe5qzu-00754-00179791-00179983 you know what we've done in the past any a0AxKNe5qzu-00755-00179984-00180295 changes at all that we need to a0AxKNe5qzu-00756-00180296-00180519 have a heads up on this year versus you a0AxKNe5qzu-00757-00180520-00180671 know just the process a0AxKNe5qzu-00758-00180672-00180959 in previous years that you're aware of a0AxKNe5qzu-00759-00180960-00181175 not that i'm aware of a0AxKNe5qzu-00760-00181176-00181414 okay it should be similar to the process a0AxKNe5qzu-00761-00181415-00181631 in prior years unless there's a request a0AxKNe5qzu-00762-00181632-00181911 to do something differently okay all a0AxKNe5qzu-00763-00181912-00182007 right good a0AxKNe5qzu-00764-00182008-00182335 and then on the death service a0AxKNe5qzu-00765-00182336-00182478 um a0AxKNe5qzu-00766-00182479-00182751 so the debt service is nine percent is a0AxKNe5qzu-00767-00182752-00182926 there a0AxKNe5qzu-00768-00182927-00183143 i i can't recall and i don't know if you a0AxKNe5qzu-00769-00183144-00183454 remember is there is there a certain um a0AxKNe5qzu-00770-00183455-00183603 policy or maximum a0AxKNe5qzu-00771-00183604-00183735 [Music] a0AxKNe5qzu-00772-00183736-00183919 percentage in the budget that the debt a0AxKNe5qzu-00773-00183920-00184238 service cannot be any higher than a0AxKNe5qzu-00774-00184239-00184495 uh not that i'm aware of i mean the debt a0AxKNe5qzu-00775-00184496-00184751 service is the highest priority in the a0AxKNe5qzu-00776-00184752-00184951 restructured agreement for water supply a0AxKNe5qzu-00777-00184952-00185175 and is the first that has to be paid in a0AxKNe5qzu-00778-00185176-00185454 the event of any revenue shortfall a0AxKNe5qzu-00779-00185455-00185959 um we maintain a triple a uh rating um a0AxKNe5qzu-00780-00185960-00186326 with with fitch and so um the the debt a0AxKNe5qzu-00781-00186327-00186502 amount of debt that we are carrying is a0AxKNe5qzu-00782-00186503-00186647 consistent with a0AxKNe5qzu-00783-00186648-00186847 um the expectations of the bond rating a0AxKNe5qzu-00784-00186848-00187111 companies and uh so we are a0AxKNe5qzu-00785-00187112-00187319 we believe we're we're we're doing quite a0AxKNe5qzu-00786-00187320-00187623 well in terms of uh managing uh debt a0AxKNe5qzu-00787-00187624-00187863 versus uh paygo a0AxKNe5qzu-00788-00187864-00188038 construction capital a0AxKNe5qzu-00789-00188039-00188207 expenditures a0AxKNe5qzu-00790-00188208-00188407 okay all right thanks lynn any other a0AxKNe5qzu-00791-00188408-00188559 questions from the tac before i open a0AxKNe5qzu-00792-00188560-00189095 this up for public comment a0AxKNe5qzu-00793-00189096-00189407 seeing none we'll now um we're on agenda a0AxKNe5qzu-00794-00189408-00189614 item number four the year-end budget a0AxKNe5qzu-00795-00189615-00189823 review open it up for public comment if a0AxKNe5qzu-00796-00189824-00190054 you wish to make a comment via zoom a0AxKNe5qzu-00797-00190055-00190326 please raise your hand or dial star 9 a0AxKNe5qzu-00798-00190327-00190654 via phone a0AxKNe5qzu-00799-00190655-00190935 i do not see any raised hands a0AxKNe5qzu-00800-00190936-00191319 okay great um a0AxKNe5qzu-00801-00191320-00191535 thank you for that and just let the a0AxKNe5qzu-00802-00191536-00191838 record reflect that i have i did not a0AxKNe5qzu-00803-00191839-00192111 receive any live comments or any a0AxKNe5qzu-00804-00192112-00192407 previously recorded comments a0AxKNe5qzu-00805-00192408-00192623 or emails on any of the agenda items a0AxKNe5qzu-00806-00192624-00192814 that we have this morning so this is a0AxKNe5qzu-00807-00192815-00192983 just an information item there's no a0AxKNe5qzu-00808-00192984-00193214 action so we're going to move to a0AxKNe5qzu-00809-00193215-00193454 agenda item number five water supply a0AxKNe5qzu-00810-00193455-00193678 conditions and temporary urgency change a0AxKNe5qzu-00811-00193679-00193854 order update and this will be uh a0AxKNe5qzu-00812-00193855-00194135 provided by don seymour a0AxKNe5qzu-00813-00194136-00194263 good morning drew good morning members a0AxKNe5qzu-00814-00194264-00194383 of the back a0AxKNe5qzu-00815-00194384-00194543 so um a0AxKNe5qzu-00816-00194544-00194671 starting off with the water supply a0AxKNe5qzu-00817-00194672-00194919 update lake mendocino is a0AxKNe5qzu-00818-00194920-00195102 it's currently a little over a0AxKNe5qzu-00819-00195103-00195319 21 000 acre feet a0AxKNe5qzu-00820-00195320-00195502 it's um it's gaining about a little a0AxKNe5qzu-00821-00195503-00195678 under 50 acre feet a day and that's a0AxKNe5qzu-00822-00195679-00195943 primarily from uh due to imports from a0AxKNe5qzu-00823-00195944-00196143 the power valley project a0AxKNe5qzu-00824-00196144-00196431 and uh as i mentioned earlier we're at a a0AxKNe5qzu-00825-00196432-00196719 minimum release of uh just under 30 a0AxKNe5qzu-00826-00196720-00197047 cubic feet per second so um a0AxKNe5qzu-00827-00197048-00197183 that's that's good news that we're a0AxKNe5qzu-00828-00197184-00197311 gaining a little bit a0AxKNe5qzu-00829-00197312-00197447 unfortunately the reservoir is still at a0AxKNe5qzu-00830-00197448-00197766 a very low level um lake sonoma is at a0AxKNe5qzu-00831-00197767-00197943 about 120 a0AxKNe5qzu-00832-00197944-00198150 600 acre feet a0AxKNe5qzu-00833-00198151-00198407 it's actually losing just a little over a0AxKNe5qzu-00834-00198408-00198695 108 per feet a day we're not seeing a0AxKNe5qzu-00835-00198696-00198783 much a0AxKNe5qzu-00836-00198784-00199095 inflow from runoff and we're currently a0AxKNe5qzu-00837-00199096-00199311 releasing the absolute minimum of 75 a0AxKNe5qzu-00838-00199312-00199535 cubic feet per second from the reservoir a0AxKNe5qzu-00839-00199536-00199678 so a0AxKNe5qzu-00840-00199679-00199871 hopefully we'll see some storm events a0AxKNe5qzu-00841-00199872-00200159 and be able to gain some storage a0AxKNe5qzu-00842-00200160-00200254 we are a0AxKNe5qzu-00843-00200255-00200487 going to have some precipitation some a0AxKNe5qzu-00844-00200488-00200719 some events coming in this week a0AxKNe5qzu-00845-00200720-00200863 they aren't a0AxKNe5qzu-00846-00200864-00201014 they aren't particularly significant i a0AxKNe5qzu-00847-00201015-00201166 think combined a0AxKNe5qzu-00848-00201167-00201438 they're a little less than uh chemo uh a0AxKNe5qzu-00849-00201439-00201663 precipitation of about an inch a0AxKNe5qzu-00850-00201664-00201919 however on the um kind of the a0AxKNe5qzu-00851-00201920-00202126 longer range out starting early next a0AxKNe5qzu-00852-00202127-00202247 week monday a0AxKNe5qzu-00853-00202248-00202559 both the european model and the national a0AxKNe5qzu-00854-00202560-00202854 global forecasting systems model a0AxKNe5qzu-00855-00202855-00202975 from the us a0AxKNe5qzu-00856-00202976-00203078 are a0AxKNe5qzu-00857-00203079-00203263 suggesting a really significant shift in a0AxKNe5qzu-00858-00203264-00203495 the weather pattern the gfs model is a0AxKNe5qzu-00859-00203496-00203735 actually a0AxKNe5qzu-00860-00203736-00203847 predicting a0AxKNe5qzu-00861-00203848-00204007 up to 13 inches of cumulative a0AxKNe5qzu-00862-00204008-00204231 precipitation in northern sonoma and a0AxKNe5qzu-00863-00204232-00204495 mendocino counties so if we see anything a0AxKNe5qzu-00864-00204496-00204743 near that um as you can imagine that's a0AxKNe5qzu-00865-00204744-00204871 going to have some very beneficial a0AxKNe5qzu-00866-00204871-00205023 impacts to both like snowmen and lake a0AxKNe5qzu-00867-00205023-00205198 mendocino so let's uh a0AxKNe5qzu-00868-00205200-00205351 keep our fingers crossed that we see a0AxKNe5qzu-00869-00205352-00205566 those uh those events come in early next a0AxKNe5qzu-00870-00205567-00205679 week a0AxKNe5qzu-00871-00205680-00205782 um a0AxKNe5qzu-00872-00205783-00206014 on the um temporary a0AxKNe5qzu-00873-00206015-00206310 temporary change petition side as i also a0AxKNe5qzu-00874-00206311-00206566 mentioned earlier um the order we're a0AxKNe5qzu-00875-00206567-00206798 managing this the system under right now a0AxKNe5qzu-00876-00206800-00207006 expires on a0AxKNe5qzu-00877-00207007-00207198 december 11th a0AxKNe5qzu-00878-00207200-00207375 so no more water filed a0AxKNe5qzu-00879-00207376-00207542 its fourth consecutive temporary a0AxKNe5qzu-00880-00207544-00207846 emergency change petition since may 2020 a0AxKNe5qzu-00881-00207848-00208062 on november 16th a0AxKNe5qzu-00882-00208063-00208423 state board is is working uh to process a0AxKNe5qzu-00883-00208423-00208638 that those petitions a0AxKNe5qzu-00884-00208639-00209014 and um hopefully have an order uh in a0AxKNe5qzu-00885-00209015-00209103 place a0AxKNe5qzu-00886-00209104-00209375 by or before december 11th so we can a0AxKNe5qzu-00887-00209376-00209582 continue managing the system a0AxKNe5qzu-00888-00209583-00209903 um based on its actual hydrologic a0AxKNe5qzu-00889-00209904-00210167 conditions unlike the the position we a0AxKNe5qzu-00890-00210167-00210487 filed in may of 2021 where we actually a0AxKNe5qzu-00891-00210488-00210646 asked for reduced minimum stream flow a0AxKNe5qzu-00892-00210648-00210879 requirements this one is just like the a0AxKNe5qzu-00893-00210880-00211167 one we filed in january 2021 where we're a0AxKNe5qzu-00894-00211167-00211423 just we're requesting that the a0AxKNe5qzu-00895-00211423-00211615 the the water year class the the water a0AxKNe5qzu-00896-00211616-00211823 supply condition be determined based on a0AxKNe5qzu-00897-00211823-00212071 storage thresholds at lake mendocino a0AxKNe5qzu-00898-00212071-00212175 um a0AxKNe5qzu-00899-00212176-00212375 and the consequence of that of not a0AxKNe5qzu-00900-00212376-00212534 having that order in place by december a0AxKNe5qzu-00901-00212535-00212639 11th a0AxKNe5qzu-00902-00212640-00212863 is um under the current storage a0AxKNe5qzu-00903-00212864-00212991 condition a0AxKNe5qzu-00904-00212992-00213215 at lake mendocino a0AxKNe5qzu-00905-00213216-00213431 this new this new order would a0AxKNe5qzu-00906-00213432-00213598 continue having the system in critical a0AxKNe5qzu-00907-00213600-00213775 water supply condition a0AxKNe5qzu-00908-00213776-00213967 however a0AxKNe5qzu-00909-00213967-00214158 when we went into the summer we were a0AxKNe5qzu-00910-00214159-00214351 actually in dry so that would kick us a0AxKNe5qzu-00911-00214352-00214510 into a much higher minimum strength flow a0AxKNe5qzu-00912-00214511-00214710 requirement starting december 11th we a0AxKNe5qzu-00913-00214711-00215039 would have to start meeting a 75 cfs a0AxKNe5qzu-00914-00215040-00215231 minimum minimum stream flow requirement a0AxKNe5qzu-00915-00215232-00215415 on the upper river and 85 on the lower a0AxKNe5qzu-00916-00215416-00215534 river a0AxKNe5qzu-00917-00215535-00215687 and again to kind of emphasize the a0AxKNe5qzu-00918-00215688-00216006 consequence of not changing um a0AxKNe5qzu-00919-00216007-00216239 the the index from cumulative inflow a0AxKNe5qzu-00920-00216240-00216479 into like pillsbury versus storage a0AxKNe5qzu-00921-00216480-00216710 vessels at lake sonoma currently there's a0AxKNe5qzu-00922-00216711-00216958 been enough inflow since october one at a0AxKNe5qzu-00923-00216959-00217191 lake pillsbury it would put a0AxKNe5qzu-00924-00217192-00217406 our system in normal water supply a0AxKNe5qzu-00925-00217407-00217663 conditions at least through february so a0AxKNe5qzu-00926-00217664-00217887 really big impacts if a0AxKNe5qzu-00927-00217888-00218063 we don't see this change however the a0AxKNe5qzu-00928-00218064-00218310 state board is it's definitely a0AxKNe5qzu-00929-00218311-00218510 moving quickly to try to get this done a0AxKNe5qzu-00930-00218511-00218671 so a0AxKNe5qzu-00931-00218671-00218855 that's all i had through unless and i'd a0AxKNe5qzu-00932-00218856-00219071 be happy to answer any questions a0AxKNe5qzu-00933-00219071-00219294 okay thank you don any questions from a0AxKNe5qzu-00934-00219296-00220046 the attack on don's report a0AxKNe5qzu-00935-00220048-00220455 dawn i liked your uh a0AxKNe5qzu-00936-00220456-00220575 your eight to a0AxKNe5qzu-00937-00220576-00220839 14 day forecast out there the potential a0AxKNe5qzu-00938-00220840-00221206 of 13 inches of rain a0AxKNe5qzu-00939-00221207-00221287 yeah a0AxKNe5qzu-00940-00221288-00221487 let's definitely keep keep our fingers a0AxKNe5qzu-00941-00221488-00221639 crossed on that one a0AxKNe5qzu-00942-00221640-00221815 yeah i would love to see anything a0AxKNe5qzu-00943-00221816-00222079 anything close to that a0AxKNe5qzu-00944-00222080-00222271 right let's see uh peter you have a a0AxKNe5qzu-00945-00222271-00222423 question a0AxKNe5qzu-00946-00222423-00222703 yeah just sorry don if i missed it um a0AxKNe5qzu-00947-00222704-00222903 what's the inflows from a0AxKNe5qzu-00948-00222904-00222975 uh a0AxKNe5qzu-00949-00222976-00223055 or a0AxKNe5qzu-00950-00223056-00223231 from the potter valley project a0AxKNe5qzu-00951-00223232-00223351 again a0AxKNe5qzu-00952-00223352-00223510 so the inflow from the potter valley a0AxKNe5qzu-00953-00223511-00223798 project is uh is 45 cubic feet per a0AxKNe5qzu-00954-00223800-00224071 second and we're seeing about uh a0AxKNe5qzu-00955-00224071-00224239 just just under 50 coming to the a0AxKNe5qzu-00956-00224240-00224446 reservoir so we're seeing a little bit a0AxKNe5qzu-00957-00224448-00224598 of natural flow a0AxKNe5qzu-00958-00224600-00224831 and then primarily a0AxKNe5qzu-00959-00224832-00225463 imports from the powder valley project a0AxKNe5qzu-00960-00225464-00226031 any other attack questions a0AxKNe5qzu-00961-00226032-00226279 seeing none we'll open this up for a0AxKNe5qzu-00962-00226280-00226494 public comment again this is agenda item a0AxKNe5qzu-00963-00226496-00226719 number five water supply conditions and a0AxKNe5qzu-00964-00226719-00226951 temporary urgency change order if you a0AxKNe5qzu-00965-00226952-00227134 wish to make comment via zoom please a0AxKNe5qzu-00966-00227135-00227431 raise your hand or dial star line via a0AxKNe5qzu-00967-00227432-00227815 phone a0AxKNe5qzu-00968-00227816-00228142 i do not see any race chance a0AxKNe5qzu-00969-00228144-00228367 thank you easter a0AxKNe5qzu-00970-00228367-00228455 let's a0AxKNe5qzu-00971-00228456-00228679 move on now to agenda item number six a0AxKNe5qzu-00972-00228680-00228967 regional water supply resiliency study a0AxKNe5qzu-00973-00228967-00229134 update this will be a a0AxKNe5qzu-00974-00229135-00229455 verbal update from jay jaspers a0AxKNe5qzu-00975-00229456-00229671 thank you drew good morning everybody uh a0AxKNe5qzu-00976-00229671-00229910 just a brief update a0AxKNe5qzu-00977-00229911-00230015 um a0AxKNe5qzu-00978-00230016-00230310 following up on our uh updated last a0AxKNe5qzu-00979-00230311-00230615 month at the last tech elect meeting a0AxKNe5qzu-00980-00230616-00230863 um work continues to focus on the a0AxKNe5qzu-00981-00230864-00231094 drought um a0AxKNe5qzu-00982-00231096-00231375 on the drought uh evaluation a0AxKNe5qzu-00983-00231376-00231727 and um so far now the model the regional a0AxKNe5qzu-00984-00231728-00231894 model that goes from potter valley all a0AxKNe5qzu-00985-00231896-00232127 the way down through marine municipal a0AxKNe5qzu-00986-00232128-00232271 including all of our systems a0AxKNe5qzu-00987-00232271-00232471 collectively a0AxKNe5qzu-00988-00232471-00232671 has been developed and has been a0AxKNe5qzu-00989-00232671-00232846 calibrated a0AxKNe5qzu-00990-00232848-00233246 and uh the worst case drought scenario a0AxKNe5qzu-00991-00233248-00233391 they looked at a0AxKNe5qzu-00992-00233392-00233646 20 climate futures and looked at a0AxKNe5qzu-00993-00233648-00233839 historical a0AxKNe5qzu-00994-00233840-00234198 five-year intervals from 1912 to 2017 a0AxKNe5qzu-00995-00234200-00234358 and they identified the worst stress a0AxKNe5qzu-00996-00234359-00234463 test a0AxKNe5qzu-00997-00234464-00234798 which was to apply to this year a0AxKNe5qzu-00998-00234800-00235134 uh moving forward as a worst case for a0AxKNe5qzu-00999-00235135-00235327 continuing the drought a0AxKNe5qzu-01000-00235328-00235655 and it was found that the worst case is a0AxKNe5qzu-01001-00235656-00235863 applying this year starting this year a0AxKNe5qzu-01002-00235864-00236223 the 1976 hydrology through 1980 so that a0AxKNe5qzu-01003-00236223-00236527 would mean we'd have the 2020 2021 a0AxKNe5qzu-01004-00236528-00236663 last two years a0AxKNe5qzu-01005-00236664-00236887 and then this year would be 76 next year a0AxKNe5qzu-01006-00236888-00237079 77 and so forth a0AxKNe5qzu-01007-00237080-00237310 that was identified as the worst case a0AxKNe5qzu-01008-00237311-00237510 both from a historical stochastic a0AxKNe5qzu-01009-00237511-00237782 analysis but also from a climate futures a0AxKNe5qzu-01010-00237783-00237975 all the 20 of the 20 climate futures a0AxKNe5qzu-01011-00237976-00238110 that have been modelled and a0AxKNe5qzu-01012-00238111-00238471 accepted in california a0AxKNe5qzu-01013-00238471-00238831 and so the baseline drought impacts for a0AxKNe5qzu-01014-00238832-00239015 that scenario a0AxKNe5qzu-01015-00239016-00239255 have been modeled and working with all a0AxKNe5qzu-01016-00239256-00239342 of a0AxKNe5qzu-01017-00239344-00239446 all of you a0AxKNe5qzu-01018-00239448-00239679 we've identified as you know a0AxKNe5qzu-01019-00239680-00239887 several different projects or response a0AxKNe5qzu-01020-00239888-00240134 drought mitigation measures and so those a0AxKNe5qzu-01021-00240135-00240398 are being applied to the baseline both a0AxKNe5qzu-01022-00240400-00240742 individually and then packages to show a0AxKNe5qzu-01023-00240744-00240910 how we can move the needle in terms of a0AxKNe5qzu-01024-00240911-00241151 drought resiliency to reduce a0AxKNe5qzu-01025-00241152-00241487 any kind of deficiencies for a near-term a0AxKNe5qzu-01026-00241488-00241679 worst-case drought a0AxKNe5qzu-01027-00241680-00241815 you'll be seeing the results of those a0AxKNe5qzu-01028-00241816-00241975 very shortly here from jacobs a0AxKNe5qzu-01029-00241976-00242134 engineering who a0AxKNe5qzu-01030-00242135-00242479 is as you know our consultant a0AxKNe5qzu-01031-00242480-00242703 and looking for in january technical a0AxKNe5qzu-01032-00242704-00242855 memo memo a0AxKNe5qzu-01033-00242856-00243039 detailing this a0AxKNe5qzu-01034-00243040-00243271 so that we can work together on drop a0AxKNe5qzu-01035-00243271-00243415 programs a0AxKNe5qzu-01036-00243416-00243567 and then a0AxKNe5qzu-01037-00243567-00243782 the seismic a0AxKNe5qzu-01038-00243783-00244119 the other major focus of this study a0AxKNe5qzu-01039-00244119-00244271 other than drought a0AxKNe5qzu-01040-00244271-00244503 is really going to focus on seismic a0AxKNe5qzu-01041-00244504-00244734 and so we're we're going to start that a0AxKNe5qzu-01042-00244735-00245055 after we finish here with the drought a0AxKNe5qzu-01043-00245056-00245423 sonoma water has has been working on a0AxKNe5qzu-01044-00245423-00245639 and is nearing completion of its phase a0AxKNe5qzu-01045-00245640-00245751 two a0AxKNe5qzu-01046-00245752-00246006 seismic hazard assessment or a0AxKNe5qzu-01047-00246007-00246158 reassessment a0AxKNe5qzu-01048-00246159-00246382 we did a seismic hazard assessment in a0AxKNe5qzu-01049-00246383-00246639 the um about 15 years ago a0AxKNe5qzu-01050-00246640-00246839 and so we've uh a0AxKNe5qzu-01051-00246840-00247046 we even went out updating all of that a0AxKNe5qzu-01052-00247048-00247279 using new models and new data that's a0AxKNe5qzu-01053-00247280-00247575 been collected on worldwide events a0AxKNe5qzu-01054-00247576-00247855 and new modeling that allows us to a0AxKNe5qzu-01055-00247856-00248030 advance our understanding of risks for a0AxKNe5qzu-01056-00248031-00248310 seismic and so that'll be incorporated a0AxKNe5qzu-01057-00248311-00248591 down the road into this resiliency study a0AxKNe5qzu-01058-00248592-00248775 so that's my update drew happy to answer a0AxKNe5qzu-01059-00248776-00248951 any questions a0AxKNe5qzu-01060-00248952-00249142 say thank you jay questions from the a0AxKNe5qzu-01061-00249144-00249671 tack a0AxKNe5qzu-01062-00249671-00249903 so jay i did hear you say that the a0AxKNe5qzu-01063-00249904-00250030 jacob's a0AxKNe5qzu-01064-00250031-00250303 technical memorandum then would be ready a0AxKNe5qzu-01065-00250304-00250671 and uh be included in the january tac a0AxKNe5qzu-01066-00250671-00250846 agenda is that correct a0AxKNe5qzu-01067-00250848-00251127 that's the plan right now yes a0AxKNe5qzu-01068-00251128-00251334 all right a0AxKNe5qzu-01069-00251335-00251527 okay see not seeing any other questions a0AxKNe5qzu-01070-00251528-00251767 from the check we'll open this up for a0AxKNe5qzu-01071-00251767-00251982 questions from the public again agenda a0AxKNe5qzu-01072-00251983-00252246 item number six if you wish to a0AxKNe5qzu-01073-00252248-00252423 make a comment via zoom please raise a0AxKNe5qzu-01074-00252423-00252951 your hand or dial star in line via phone a0AxKNe5qzu-01075-00252952-00253223 i do not see any raised hands a0AxKNe5qzu-01076-00253223-00253406 thank you easter a0AxKNe5qzu-01077-00253407-00253679 let's move on then into a0AxKNe5qzu-01078-00253680-00253894 agenda item number seven sonoma marine a0AxKNe5qzu-01079-00253896-00254119 saving water partnership and we have a0AxKNe5qzu-01080-00254119-00254315 three different um a0AxKNe5qzu-01081-00254316-00254463 [Music] a0AxKNe5qzu-01082-00254464-00254719 parts of this agenda the first one is a0AxKNe5qzu-01083-00254719-00255046 just our regular tally on a0AxKNe5qzu-01084-00255048-00255279 2021 water production a0AxKNe5qzu-01085-00255280-00255558 relative to the 2013 benchmark here and a0AxKNe5qzu-01086-00255559-00255746 also relative to a0AxKNe5qzu-01087-00255748-00255903 2021 a0AxKNe5qzu-01088-00255904-00256206 river diversions so a0AxKNe5qzu-01089-00256207-00256446 there's the regular a0AxKNe5qzu-01090-00256448-00256839 chart that we have in there it shows um a0AxKNe5qzu-01091-00256840-00257039 for the month of october water use was a0AxKNe5qzu-01092-00257040-00257351 down 32 percent versus what it was in uh a0AxKNe5qzu-01093-00257352-00257575 base for the benchmark year a0AxKNe5qzu-01094-00257576-00257879 2013. if you look at the aggregate a0AxKNe5qzu-01095-00257880-00258134 for the entire year water use a0AxKNe5qzu-01096-00258135-00258294 was down 21 a0AxKNe5qzu-01097-00258296-00258591 versus that benchmark here a0AxKNe5qzu-01098-00258592-00258846 and then a0AxKNe5qzu-01099-00258848-00259103 importantly just related to the a0AxKNe5qzu-01100-00259104-00259294 requirement from the state that's a0AxKNe5qzu-01101-00259296-00259471 temporarily suspended but we're a0AxKNe5qzu-01102-00259471-00259639 continuing to a0AxKNe5qzu-01103-00259640-00259830 track it the actual a0AxKNe5qzu-01104-00259831-00259998 um a0AxKNe5qzu-01105-00260000-00260358 cumulative russian river diversions and a0AxKNe5qzu-01106-00260359-00260503 reductions a0AxKNe5qzu-01107-00260504-00260687 if you can scroll down a little bit a0AxKNe5qzu-01108-00260688-00260823 further a0AxKNe5qzu-01109-00260823-00261015 keep going to the next a0AxKNe5qzu-01110-00261016-00261358 next graph right here right there a0AxKNe5qzu-01111-00261359-00261479 uh a0AxKNe5qzu-01112-00261480-00261646 and we're since a0AxKNe5qzu-01113-00261648-00261903 july one i'm continuing the agency's a0AxKNe5qzu-01114-00261904-00262134 continuing to track that a0AxKNe5qzu-01115-00262135-00262279 through right at the beginning of a0AxKNe5qzu-01116-00262280-00262391 december a0AxKNe5qzu-01117-00262392-00262471 just a0AxKNe5qzu-01118-00262472-00262806 shows that total a0AxKNe5qzu-01119-00262807-00263023 diversions from the russian river are a0AxKNe5qzu-01120-00263024-00263271 down almost 23 percent a0AxKNe5qzu-01121-00263272-00263775 again the order was a minimum of 20 so a0AxKNe5qzu-01122-00263776-00263967 all the water contractors are meeting a0AxKNe5qzu-01123-00263968-00264263 and beating that and we're we'll a0AxKNe5qzu-01124-00264264-00264430 continue to track that a0AxKNe5qzu-01125-00264431-00264655 uh even while this order is currently a0AxKNe5qzu-01126-00264656-00264839 suspended a0AxKNe5qzu-01127-00264840-00264967 so a0AxKNe5qzu-01128-00264968-00265247 that's that's agenda item number seven a a0AxKNe5qzu-01129-00265248-00265463 just in terms of summary of a0AxKNe5qzu-01130-00265464-00265727 of water usage overall be happy to a0AxKNe5qzu-01131-00265728-00265951 answer any questions from the tact a0AxKNe5qzu-01132-00265952-00266382 on this item a0AxKNe5qzu-01133-00266383-00266647 i don't see any so i'll move to public a0AxKNe5qzu-01134-00266648-00266958 comment again this is for agenda item 7a a0AxKNe5qzu-01135-00266959-00267143 if you wish to make a comment via zoom a0AxKNe5qzu-01136-00267144-00267391 please raise your hand or dial star 9 a0AxKNe5qzu-01137-00267392-00267775 near phone a0AxKNe5qzu-01138-00267776-00267951 do you have a public comment from brenda a0AxKNe5qzu-01139-00267952-00268351 edelman i will unmute you a0AxKNe5qzu-01140-00268352-00269110 go ahead brenda a0AxKNe5qzu-01141-00269111-00269623 looks like her hand went down so a0AxKNe5qzu-01142-00269624-00269903 i no longer see brenda's hand up okay a0AxKNe5qzu-01143-00269904-00270167 any other questions from the or comments a0AxKNe5qzu-01144-00270168-00270743 from the public on this yeah a0AxKNe5qzu-01145-00270744-00270871 apologies there are no other raised a0AxKNe5qzu-01146-00270872-00271143 hands okay thank you easter a0AxKNe5qzu-01147-00271144-00271471 um let's move on to agenda item 7b a0AxKNe5qzu-01148-00271472-00271751 drought outreach messaging a0AxKNe5qzu-01149-00271752-00271999 gary are you gonna start this a0AxKNe5qzu-01150-00272000-00272327 yes i am uh drew thank you uh can i be a0AxKNe5qzu-01151-00272328-00272719 allowed to share my screen uh roberta or a0AxKNe5qzu-01152-00272720-00273079 easter a0AxKNe5qzu-01153-00273080-00273223 yes we'll promote you to a co-host one a0AxKNe5qzu-01154-00273224-00273319 moment a0AxKNe5qzu-01155-00273320-00273495 and uh drew it looks like brenda edelman a0AxKNe5qzu-01156-00273496-00273630 did raise her hand again so i think a0AxKNe5qzu-01157-00273631-00273758 maybe um a0AxKNe5qzu-01158-00273759-00273982 something happened in the uh upgrade to a0AxKNe5qzu-01159-00273983-00274134 let her talk a0AxKNe5qzu-01160-00274135-00274455 okay is is brenda still there barry if a0AxKNe5qzu-01161-00274456-00274606 you can just hold on one second we'll go a0AxKNe5qzu-01162-00274607-00274695 back a0AxKNe5qzu-01163-00274696-00274799 sure a0AxKNe5qzu-01164-00274800-00274903 brenda a0AxKNe5qzu-01165-00274904-00275134 can you hear me now yes a0AxKNe5qzu-01166-00275135-00275391 okay i just have a question a0AxKNe5qzu-01167-00275392-00275671 i would like some kind of statement a0AxKNe5qzu-01168-00275672-00275895 explaining how the a0AxKNe5qzu-01169-00275896-00276199 these numbers are calculated when i a0AxKNe5qzu-01170-00276200-00276543 tried to to compare these to the a0AxKNe5qzu-01171-00276544-00276847 water sales to contractors a0AxKNe5qzu-01172-00276848-00277119 i couldn't find the same kind of a0AxKNe5qzu-01173-00277120-00277295 percentages a0AxKNe5qzu-01174-00277296-00277671 so i don't need it this minute but a0AxKNe5qzu-01175-00277672-00277887 if someone could provide me with an a0AxKNe5qzu-01176-00277888-00278047 explanation a0AxKNe5qzu-01177-00278048-00278310 for how you kind of come a0AxKNe5qzu-01178-00278311-00278519 compute these numbers i would really a0AxKNe5qzu-01179-00278520-00278830 appreciate it a0AxKNe5qzu-01180-00278831-00279047 okay brenda so just keep in mind that a0AxKNe5qzu-01181-00279048-00279206 the tables a0AxKNe5qzu-01182-00279207-00279439 that have shown there in in 7a like a0AxKNe5qzu-01183-00279440-00279839 table 1 and 2 is total delivery so a0AxKNe5qzu-01184-00279840-00280087 it's not only sonoma county water agency a0AxKNe5qzu-01185-00280088-00280319 but it's it's also local supplies for a0AxKNe5qzu-01186-00280320-00280510 all the contractors a0AxKNe5qzu-01187-00280511-00280703 so if you're just looking if you're a0AxKNe5qzu-01188-00280704-00280967 trying to get those numbers to match up a0AxKNe5qzu-01189-00280968-00281191 with what you see with just agency water a0AxKNe5qzu-01190-00281192-00281319 i could see where you would have a a0AxKNe5qzu-01191-00281320-00281430 problem a0AxKNe5qzu-01192-00281431-00281710 if you look at the graph that's after a0AxKNe5qzu-01193-00281711-00281991 that the one that just says a0AxKNe5qzu-01194-00281992-00282215 cumulative sonoma water russian a0AxKNe5qzu-01195-00282216-00282334 diversions a0AxKNe5qzu-01196-00282335-00282647 those are actual uh water deliveries by a0AxKNe5qzu-01197-00282648-00282815 the agency a0AxKNe5qzu-01198-00282816-00283095 and the reduction from the aggregate of a0AxKNe5qzu-01199-00283096-00283447 the contractors a0AxKNe5qzu-01200-00283448-00283823 all right thank you okay a0AxKNe5qzu-01201-00283824-00284191 okay so let's see we're back on 7b a0AxKNe5qzu-01202-00284192-00284287 and a0AxKNe5qzu-01203-00284288-00284639 barry was asking to be able to share a0AxKNe5qzu-01204-00284640-00284879 your screen a0AxKNe5qzu-01205-00284880-00285134 thank you drew a0AxKNe5qzu-01206-00285135-00285487 are you able to see that now a0AxKNe5qzu-01207-00285488-00285719 we are all right very good a0AxKNe5qzu-01208-00285720-00285903 thank you members of the attack a0AxKNe5qzu-01209-00285904-00286087 barry dugan from sonoma water i'll be a0AxKNe5qzu-01210-00286088-00286406 joined by my colleague paul piazza a0AxKNe5qzu-01211-00286407-00286630 as you can tell the partnership and all a0AxKNe5qzu-01212-00286631-00286854 of its members are a0AxKNe5qzu-01213-00286855-00287079 right into the holiday spirit here and a0AxKNe5qzu-01214-00287080-00287343 this will be our report a0AxKNe5qzu-01215-00287344-00287510 um a0AxKNe5qzu-01216-00287511-00287671 so this is what we'll cover we're gonna a0AxKNe5qzu-01217-00287672-00287943 uh ongoing drought is here messaging is a0AxKNe5qzu-01218-00287944-00288199 is what we're focused on uh we'll talk a0AxKNe5qzu-01219-00288200-00288479 about some our bilingual advertising and a0AxKNe5qzu-01220-00288480-00288695 our planning that's underway for the a0AxKNe5qzu-01221-00288696-00288839 coming winter a0AxKNe5qzu-01222-00288840-00289463 and uh upcoming fix a week leak a0AxKNe5qzu-01223-00289464-00289606 so this is our bilingual drought a0AxKNe5qzu-01224-00289607-00289951 messaging uh for december and into the a0AxKNe5qzu-01225-00289952-00290247 into the winter uh fix your flesh a0AxKNe5qzu-01226-00290248-00290454 so i don't i don't know of anyone who a0AxKNe5qzu-01227-00290455-00290663 wouldn't welcome that kind of a gift a0AxKNe5qzu-01228-00290664-00290839 under the christmas tree a0AxKNe5qzu-01229-00290840-00291095 so um just an idea for those of you who a0AxKNe5qzu-01230-00291096-00291279 haven't come up haven't finished your a0AxKNe5qzu-01231-00291280-00291558 gift gift list yet but this is what a0AxKNe5qzu-01232-00291559-00291751 we're using for our print advertising a0AxKNe5qzu-01233-00291752-00291999 social media etc a0AxKNe5qzu-01234-00292000-00292279 uh again more social media ads a0AxKNe5qzu-01235-00292280-00292567 in english and in spanish emphasizing a0AxKNe5qzu-01236-00292568-00292687 the need to a0AxKNe5qzu-01237-00292688-00293015 fix your toilet buy a new toilet uh do a0AxKNe5qzu-01238-00293016-00293247 the simple ditab test a0AxKNe5qzu-01239-00293248-00293519 uh so that that's what we'll be focusing a0AxKNe5qzu-01240-00293520-00293734 on and now i'm gonna turn it over to a0AxKNe5qzu-01241-00293735-00293975 paul piazza we'll talk about our bill a0AxKNe5qzu-01242-00293976-00294327 inserts and our fixed weekly campaign a0AxKNe5qzu-01243-00294328-00294567 thank you barry good morning drew and a0AxKNe5qzu-01244-00294568-00294710 members of the tech a0AxKNe5qzu-01245-00294711-00294967 so we recently had a0AxKNe5qzu-01246-00294968-00295206 a three-part webinar series on gray a0AxKNe5qzu-01247-00295207-00295391 water and we're following a0AxKNe5qzu-01248-00295392-00295606 that webinar series up with some bill a0AxKNe5qzu-01249-00295607-00295806 inserts to be made available to the a0AxKNe5qzu-01250-00295807-00295967 partners to a0AxKNe5qzu-01251-00295968-00296206 message the community about the a0AxKNe5qzu-01252-00296207-00296471 opportunity to use gray water a0AxKNe5qzu-01253-00296472-00296734 as a drought proof resource in their a0AxKNe5qzu-01254-00296735-00296839 home a0AxKNe5qzu-01255-00296840-00297054 that's captured by the middle panel a0AxKNe5qzu-01256-00297055-00297303 there that shows the three-way diverter a0AxKNe5qzu-01257-00297304-00297543 from a closed washer that can either be a0AxKNe5qzu-01258-00297544-00297823 directed to put its rinse water into the a0AxKNe5qzu-01259-00297824-00297999 sanitary sewer a0AxKNe5qzu-01260-00298000-00298247 should you be using bleach or other a0AxKNe5qzu-01261-00298248-00298343 products a0AxKNe5qzu-01262-00298344-00298599 or to the landscape a0AxKNe5qzu-01263-00298600-00298943 should it continue to be dry and a0AxKNe5qzu-01264-00298944-00299167 the use of gray water can help offset a0AxKNe5qzu-01265-00299168-00299327 potable water in the landscape for a0AxKNe5qzu-01266-00299328-00299471 irrigation a0AxKNe5qzu-01267-00299472-00299671 we're continuing to message a0AxKNe5qzu-01268-00299672-00299879 the importance of lawn replacement and a0AxKNe5qzu-01269-00299880-00300039 the use of mulch a0AxKNe5qzu-01270-00300040-00300247 and also to a0AxKNe5qzu-01271-00300248-00300463 emphasize that for those that have the a0AxKNe5qzu-01272-00300464-00300663 ability to install rain water capture a0AxKNe5qzu-01273-00300664-00300799 systems that a0AxKNe5qzu-01274-00300800-00300919 although a0AxKNe5qzu-01275-00300920-00301030 rainfall a0AxKNe5qzu-01276-00301031-00301199 does not occur in the summer months when a0AxKNe5qzu-01277-00301200-00301447 it's primarily needed it is a0AxKNe5qzu-01278-00301448-00301679 an important method to help reduce a0AxKNe5qzu-01279-00301680-00301863 potable water use in the shoulder months a0AxKNe5qzu-01280-00301864-00302047 of spring and fall a0AxKNe5qzu-01281-00302048-00302230 when we do get that a0AxKNe5qzu-01282-00302231-00302447 occasional rainfall a0AxKNe5qzu-01283-00302448-00302647 that occurs at a time when there is some a0AxKNe5qzu-01284-00302648-00302863 irrigation demand and that rain water a0AxKNe5qzu-01285-00302864-00303023 can be used to a0AxKNe5qzu-01286-00303024-00303254 water landscape and then capture an a0AxKNe5qzu-01287-00303255-00303463 additional storm and be used multiple a0AxKNe5qzu-01288-00303464-00303663 times during a year so a0AxKNe5qzu-01289-00303664-00303887 even a small system can help offset a0AxKNe5qzu-01290-00303888-00304071 several thousand gallons of water on an a0AxKNe5qzu-01291-00304072-00304334 annual basis and when we scale that up a0AxKNe5qzu-01292-00304335-00304543 it adds up to a significant amount of a0AxKNe5qzu-01293-00304544-00304903 savings next slide please a0AxKNe5qzu-01294-00304904-00305215 i'm looking forward into next year we a0AxKNe5qzu-01295-00305216-00305463 are starting to work on a0AxKNe5qzu-01296-00305464-00305719 the epa water sense fix a leak week a0AxKNe5qzu-01297-00305720-00305951 campaign which occurs every year during a0AxKNe5qzu-01298-00305952-00306087 march a0AxKNe5qzu-01299-00306088-00306239 we've got a0AxKNe5qzu-01300-00306240-00306447 some good partners a0AxKNe5qzu-01301-00306448-00306630 helping with that effort at the city of a0AxKNe5qzu-01302-00306631-00306830 santa rosa and others of the partnership a0AxKNe5qzu-01303-00306831-00306991 so we're going to be talking again this a0AxKNe5qzu-01304-00306992-00307247 thursday with a full partnership about a0AxKNe5qzu-01305-00307248-00307495 i'm rolling that out in a little bit a0AxKNe5qzu-01306-00307496-00307575 more a0AxKNe5qzu-01307-00307576-00307815 regional fashion that has occurred in a0AxKNe5qzu-01308-00307816-00308082 past years next a0AxKNe5qzu-01309-00308083-00308439 slide that's our update for now we're uh a0AxKNe5qzu-01310-00308440-00308823 happy to open it up for any questions a0AxKNe5qzu-01311-00308824-00309127 okay thanks thanks barry and paul a0AxKNe5qzu-01312-00309128-00309351 um we'll go back to the tack any a0AxKNe5qzu-01313-00309352-00309482 questions from the a0AxKNe5qzu-01314-00309483-00310230 tag on the drought outreach messaging a0AxKNe5qzu-01315-00310231-00310567 uh easter if we could there we go great a0AxKNe5qzu-01316-00310568-00310847 i don't see any questions from the text a0AxKNe5qzu-01317-00310848-00311134 so we'll open this up to a0AxKNe5qzu-01318-00311135-00311327 public comments again this is agenda a0AxKNe5qzu-01319-00311328-00311527 item 7b a0AxKNe5qzu-01320-00311528-00311734 please raise your hand via zoom or dial a0AxKNe5qzu-01321-00311735-00311951 star 9 if you if you wish to make a a0AxKNe5qzu-01322-00311952-00312454 comment a0AxKNe5qzu-01323-00312455-00312647 i did not see any raised hands a0AxKNe5qzu-01324-00312648-00312854 okay thank you easter so that'll take us a0AxKNe5qzu-01325-00312855-00312934 to a0AxKNe5qzu-01326-00312935-00313167 7c the a0AxKNe5qzu-01327-00313168-00313463 annual report fiscal year 2021 annual a0AxKNe5qzu-01328-00313464-00313799 report uh paul you want to summarize a0AxKNe5qzu-01329-00313800-00314079 this too please happy to thank you drew a0AxKNe5qzu-01330-00314080-00314382 i'll wait until uh roberta has a chance a0AxKNe5qzu-01331-00314383-00314806 to put that up on the screen a0AxKNe5qzu-01332-00314807-00315095 so every year the partnership undertakes a0AxKNe5qzu-01333-00315096-00315319 an annual report uh a0AxKNe5qzu-01334-00315320-00315558 the report is on a fiscal year basis so a0AxKNe5qzu-01335-00315559-00315799 this this year's report covers a0AxKNe5qzu-01336-00315800-00316206 fiscal year 2020 through 2021 and i know a0AxKNe5qzu-01337-00316207-00316447 uh with coven it seems like it's all a0AxKNe5qzu-01338-00316448-00316751 been one long day but uh just to remind a0AxKNe5qzu-01339-00316752-00316975 you that activities that occurred in a0AxKNe5qzu-01340-00316976-00317110 this report a0AxKNe5qzu-01341-00317111-00317527 uh are starting in july of 2020 through a0AxKNe5qzu-01342-00317528-00317758 june of 2021 a0AxKNe5qzu-01343-00317759-00318023 so we were still under a0AxKNe5qzu-01344-00318024-00318191 shelter and place orders at the early a0AxKNe5qzu-01345-00318192-00318415 part of this report a0AxKNe5qzu-01346-00318416-00318895 go ahead and advance to the next a0AxKNe5qzu-01347-00318896-00319199 so we just include a letter to the a0AxKNe5qzu-01348-00319200-00319647 community from director hopkins and a0AxKNe5qzu-01349-00319648-00319839 wac chair harvey a0AxKNe5qzu-01350-00319840-00319999 discussing a0AxKNe5qzu-01351-00320000-00320191 some of the challenges that we faced a0AxKNe5qzu-01352-00320192-00320439 regionally with not only the pandemic a0AxKNe5qzu-01353-00320440-00320551 but a0AxKNe5qzu-01354-00320552-00320758 kind of the transition from fires to a0AxKNe5qzu-01355-00320759-00320975 floods and now to a0AxKNe5qzu-01356-00320976-00321215 drought and in spite of all the a0AxKNe5qzu-01357-00321216-00321503 challenges our community continues to a0AxKNe5qzu-01358-00321504-00321727 show resiliency to a0AxKNe5qzu-01359-00321728-00321879 bounce back a0AxKNe5qzu-01360-00321880-00322127 rebuild recover and continue our a0AxKNe5qzu-01361-00322128-00322358 planning to ensure that a0AxKNe5qzu-01362-00322359-00322543 we're going to be resilient in the a0AxKNe5qzu-01363-00322544-00322734 future in the face of any of the a0AxKNe5qzu-01364-00322735-00323015 additional challenges that we might a0AxKNe5qzu-01365-00323016-00323239 have come our way go ahead and advance a0AxKNe5qzu-01366-00323240-00323430 please a0AxKNe5qzu-01367-00323431-00323623 so by the numbers section here just a0AxKNe5qzu-01368-00323624-00323799 details some of the accomplishments in a0AxKNe5qzu-01369-00323800-00323958 the last year a0AxKNe5qzu-01370-00323959-00324295 um it's pretty easy to follow along here a0AxKNe5qzu-01371-00324296-00324471 but just pulling out a couple of the a0AxKNe5qzu-01372-00324472-00324591 metrics a0AxKNe5qzu-01373-00324592-00324910 uh over 150 000 square feet of lawn have a0AxKNe5qzu-01374-00324911-00325182 been converted to low water use a0AxKNe5qzu-01375-00325183-00325367 we continued to reach out to our a0AxKNe5qzu-01376-00325368-00325647 community even during the covet period a0AxKNe5qzu-01377-00325648-00325743 to a0AxKNe5qzu-01378-00325744-00325854 complete a0AxKNe5qzu-01379-00325855-00326103 water smart home evaluations that was a0AxKNe5qzu-01380-00326104-00326447 done largely by transitioning to a0AxKNe5qzu-01381-00326448-00326582 do-it-yourself a0AxKNe5qzu-01382-00326583-00326975 approaches whether it be through kits or a0AxKNe5qzu-01383-00326976-00327230 tools that are virtually available to a0AxKNe5qzu-01384-00327231-00327439 homeowners to to do those assessments a0AxKNe5qzu-01385-00327440-00327567 themselves a0AxKNe5qzu-01386-00327568-00327775 of course because we were in a low water a0AxKNe5qzu-01387-00327776-00327927 use here a0AxKNe5qzu-01388-00327928-00328134 our water waste enforcements are one of a0AxKNe5qzu-01389-00328135-00328303 the higher numbers and then just a0AxKNe5qzu-01390-00328304-00328534 highlighting our education programs a0AxKNe5qzu-01391-00328535-00328734 continue to do an amazing job to make a0AxKNe5qzu-01392-00328735-00328903 curriculum available to all of our a0AxKNe5qzu-01393-00328904-00329047 schools a0AxKNe5qzu-01394-00329048-00329310 even during the covet shelter in place a0AxKNe5qzu-01395-00329311-00329423 where a0AxKNe5qzu-01396-00329424-00329671 a great deal of effort was undertaken to a0AxKNe5qzu-01397-00329672-00329847 transition to both a0AxKNe5qzu-01398-00329848-00330047 synchronous and asynchronous learning a0AxKNe5qzu-01399-00330048-00330278 opportunities for schools that were a0AxKNe5qzu-01400-00330279-00330599 operating uh virtually a0AxKNe5qzu-01401-00330600-00330919 next page play a0AxKNe5qzu-01402-00330920-00331358 so 2021 marked the end of the water a0AxKNe5qzu-01403-00331359-00331519 conservation acts a0AxKNe5qzu-01404-00331520-00331719 20 by 2020 goal a0AxKNe5qzu-01405-00331720-00331934 so you'll see here in the upper right a0AxKNe5qzu-01406-00331935-00332119 part of the screen a0AxKNe5qzu-01407-00332120-00332351 that the regional alliance that was a0AxKNe5qzu-01408-00332352-00332647 formed to meet that 20 percent reduction a0AxKNe5qzu-01409-00332648-00332815 by 2020 a0AxKNe5qzu-01410-00332816-00333030 was very successful regionally our a0AxKNe5qzu-01411-00333031-00333151 partners a0AxKNe5qzu-01412-00333152-00333487 achieved the gpcd of 113 although the a0AxKNe5qzu-01413-00333488-00333799 regional target was 129 so that a0AxKNe5qzu-01414-00333800-00334030 is well over a 20 reduction in that a0AxKNe5qzu-01415-00334031-00334271 10-year period that occurred between a0AxKNe5qzu-01416-00334272-00334510 implementation of that goal a0AxKNe5qzu-01417-00334511-00334895 and the final reporting of 2020. so a a0AxKNe5qzu-01418-00334896-00335167 great job by all to meet those targets a0AxKNe5qzu-01419-00335168-00335254 and a0AxKNe5qzu-01420-00335255-00335510 we continue to see the development of a0AxKNe5qzu-01421-00335511-00335854 the new statewide conservation framework a0AxKNe5qzu-01422-00335855-00336006 recently a0AxKNe5qzu-01423-00336007-00336230 dwr and the state board did announce a0AxKNe5qzu-01424-00336231-00336367 that they're recommending to the a0AxKNe5qzu-01425-00336368-00336527 legislature a0AxKNe5qzu-01426-00336528-00336734 new indoor standards for residential a0AxKNe5qzu-01427-00336735-00336903 that'll be a part of the a0AxKNe5qzu-01428-00336904-00337054 rolled up a0AxKNe5qzu-01429-00337055-00337327 water conservation targets going forward a0AxKNe5qzu-01430-00337328-00337423 so a0AxKNe5qzu-01431-00337424-00337647 uh it's great that we had a great a0AxKNe5qzu-01432-00337648-00337887 achievement to celebrate in the short a0AxKNe5qzu-01433-00337888-00338103 term and we recognize there's more work a0AxKNe5qzu-01434-00338104-00338343 to do and look forward to meeting those a0AxKNe5qzu-01435-00338344-00338630 future uh statewide framework goals that a0AxKNe5qzu-01436-00338631-00338871 we expect to come our way in the next a0AxKNe5qzu-01437-00338872-00339063 year a0AxKNe5qzu-01438-00339064-00339278 just some highlights on the left talking a0AxKNe5qzu-01439-00339279-00339478 about the outreach campaign of course we a0AxKNe5qzu-01440-00339479-00339727 had some very successful job drop by a0AxKNe5qzu-01441-00339728-00340054 events to distribute over 10 000 a0AxKNe5qzu-01442-00340055-00340415 kits for our customers to save water a0AxKNe5qzu-01443-00340416-00340671 we had a great saving water challenge a0AxKNe5qzu-01444-00340672-00340806 and a0AxKNe5qzu-01445-00340807-00341063 relied on a trusted messenger video a0AxKNe5qzu-01446-00341064-00341230 outreach campaign a0AxKNe5qzu-01447-00341231-00341343 to bring a0AxKNe5qzu-01448-00341344-00341510 tips and information of the community a0AxKNe5qzu-01449-00341511-00341710 about how best to continue to save a0AxKNe5qzu-01450-00341711-00341854 through the summer months a0AxKNe5qzu-01451-00341855-00342103 so that kind of sums it up a0AxKNe5qzu-01452-00342104-00342391 this report as shown here has been a0AxKNe5qzu-01453-00342392-00342678 formatted really just for this meeting a0AxKNe5qzu-01454-00342679-00342839 we'll be doing some a0AxKNe5qzu-01455-00342840-00343063 final adjustments to make it ada a0AxKNe5qzu-01456-00343064-00343327 compliant it will take its place amongst a0AxKNe5qzu-01457-00343328-00343495 some of the other annual reports on the a0AxKNe5qzu-01458-00343496-00343782 partnerships website and we are happy to a0AxKNe5qzu-01459-00343783-00344015 make this available in print format as a0AxKNe5qzu-01460-00344016-00344119 well a0AxKNe5qzu-01461-00344120-00344399 so that we can do a small print run for a0AxKNe5qzu-01462-00344400-00344606 our partners as was done in previous a0AxKNe5qzu-01463-00344607-00344871 years so we'll be uh reaching out to you a0AxKNe5qzu-01464-00344872-00344951 all a0AxKNe5qzu-01465-00344952-00345158 in the coming months for that so happy a0AxKNe5qzu-01466-00345159-00345582 to take any follow-up questions a0AxKNe5qzu-01467-00345583-00345758 okay thank you paul a0AxKNe5qzu-01468-00345759-00345975 we'll start with uh questions from the a0AxKNe5qzu-01469-00345976-00346287 tac i see a question from fergie a0AxKNe5qzu-01470-00346288-00346495 hey thank you drew i actually don't have a0AxKNe5qzu-01471-00346496-00346806 questions just um want to say kudos to a0AxKNe5qzu-01472-00346807-00347103 paul and barry and the whole partnership a0AxKNe5qzu-01473-00347104-00347287 for all the great work especially a0AxKNe5qzu-01474-00347288-00347558 through the pandemic and the drought a0AxKNe5qzu-01475-00347559-00347823 we've all really relied on their work a0AxKNe5qzu-01476-00347824-00348006 and it's it's impressive to see what's a0AxKNe5qzu-01477-00348007-00348167 being done in the creativity that a0AxKNe5qzu-01478-00348168-00348375 continues to come forward so thank you a0AxKNe5qzu-01479-00348376-00348591 all a0AxKNe5qzu-01480-00348592-00348895 okay good comments fergie um any other a0AxKNe5qzu-01481-00348896-00349399 questions comments from the tac a0AxKNe5qzu-01482-00349400-00349687 uh paul i have a0AxKNe5qzu-01483-00349688-00349887 just kind of following up with with a0AxKNe5qzu-01484-00349888-00350110 fergie's comment um a0AxKNe5qzu-01485-00350111-00350375 you know the just in terms of the garden a0AxKNe5qzu-01486-00350376-00350534 tour online a0AxKNe5qzu-01487-00350535-00350823 um that close to 5 000 a0AxKNe5qzu-01488-00350824-00350943 uh a0AxKNe5qzu-01489-00350944-00351119 clicks or hits or whatever you want to a0AxKNe5qzu-01490-00351120-00351239 call it a0AxKNe5qzu-01491-00351240-00351399 uh i don't know that's a pretty a0AxKNe5qzu-01492-00351400-00351615 impressive number for me during cobin a0AxKNe5qzu-01493-00351616-00351863 it's uh it's it looks like that's been a0AxKNe5qzu-01494-00351864-00351982 great a0AxKNe5qzu-01495-00351983-00352239 um great efforts to get some engagement a0AxKNe5qzu-01496-00352240-00352495 by a lot of viewers do you happen to a0AxKNe5qzu-01497-00352496-00352830 remember what this number was a0AxKNe5qzu-01498-00352831-00353327 on the previous year if we had that a0AxKNe5qzu-01499-00353328-00353527 yeah we've had a lot a0AxKNe5qzu-01500-00353528-00353719 higher participation numbers in terms of a0AxKNe5qzu-01501-00353720-00353903 unique page views of the garden tour a0AxKNe5qzu-01502-00353904-00354054 than would have occurred a0AxKNe5qzu-01503-00354055-00354278 in person although drew a0AxKNe5qzu-01504-00354279-00354543 often in the past we had the base uh a0AxKNe5qzu-01505-00354544-00354758 participation estimates based on sign a0AxKNe5qzu-01506-00354759-00354854 ups a0AxKNe5qzu-01507-00354855-00355063 and then on the day of the tour there a0AxKNe5qzu-01508-00355064-00355271 was no limitation to who could actually a0AxKNe5qzu-01509-00355272-00355534 participate in it wasn't a metric that a0AxKNe5qzu-01510-00355535-00355775 the garden hosts that were a0AxKNe5qzu-01511-00355776-00355999 manning the sites were necessarily able a0AxKNe5qzu-01512-00356000-00356134 to track so a0AxKNe5qzu-01513-00356135-00356351 we have seen great participation though a0AxKNe5qzu-01514-00356352-00356510 with the tour a0AxKNe5qzu-01515-00356511-00356671 if you recall a0AxKNe5qzu-01516-00356672-00356943 the tour that occurred in may a0AxKNe5qzu-01517-00356944-00357382 of 2020 had to shift very quickly to be a0AxKNe5qzu-01518-00357383-00357534 virtual a0AxKNe5qzu-01519-00357535-00357751 because it wasn't anticipated initially a0AxKNe5qzu-01520-00357752-00357895 to be that a0AxKNe5qzu-01521-00357896-00358087 and we had a0AxKNe5qzu-01522-00358088-00358215 relied on a0AxKNe5qzu-01523-00358216-00358423 homemade videos by all of the garden a0AxKNe5qzu-01524-00358424-00358663 hosts that a0AxKNe5qzu-01525-00358664-00358895 turned out really really well a0AxKNe5qzu-01526-00358896-00359103 and subsequently a0AxKNe5qzu-01527-00359104-00359327 based on the success of that we went a0AxKNe5qzu-01528-00359328-00359478 forward to hire a0AxKNe5qzu-01529-00359479-00359806 a professional videographer and so a0AxKNe5qzu-01530-00359807-00360006 the tour that occurred most recently in a0AxKNe5qzu-01531-00360007-00360134 may a0AxKNe5qzu-01532-00360135-00360287 although featured a a0AxKNe5qzu-01533-00360288-00360519 smaller list of gardens a0AxKNe5qzu-01534-00360520-00360767 um we're all professionally videoed and a0AxKNe5qzu-01535-00360768-00361087 um including plant lists and we continue a0AxKNe5qzu-01536-00361088-00361391 to get a lot of uh attention from that a0AxKNe5qzu-01537-00361392-00361639 people seem to like it that we promote a0AxKNe5qzu-01538-00361640-00361806 it on the day of the tour and then it a0AxKNe5qzu-01539-00361807-00361951 continues to be a0AxKNe5qzu-01540-00361952-00362158 a year-round resource for folks to go a0AxKNe5qzu-01541-00362159-00362391 back to both the view and to a0AxKNe5qzu-01542-00362392-00362630 get ideas about what they might be able a0AxKNe5qzu-01543-00362631-00362919 to implement in their own homes a0AxKNe5qzu-01544-00362920-00363151 okay good good to know thanks paul any a0AxKNe5qzu-01545-00363152-00363310 other questions from the tack on this a0AxKNe5qzu-01546-00363311-00363654 item a0AxKNe5qzu-01547-00363655-00363939 okay let's move to public comment um a0AxKNe5qzu-01548-00363940-00364078 [Music] a0AxKNe5qzu-01549-00364079-00364263 if you wish to make a comment via zoom a0AxKNe5qzu-01550-00364264-00364495 please raise your hand or dial star line a0AxKNe5qzu-01551-00364496-00364895 via phone a0AxKNe5qzu-01552-00364896-00365110 do not see any raised hands a0AxKNe5qzu-01553-00365111-00365430 okay so that finishes off agenda item a0AxKNe5qzu-01554-00365431-00365758 number seven a through c a0AxKNe5qzu-01555-00365759-00365951 so we'll move to a0AxKNe5qzu-01556-00365952-00366175 uh item number eight biological opinion a0AxKNe5qzu-01557-00366176-00366471 status update and pam gene with the a0AxKNe5qzu-01558-00366472-00366823 agency will be providing that pam a0AxKNe5qzu-01559-00366824-00366999 hey good morning everybody hope a0AxKNe5qzu-01560-00367000-00367303 everybody had a nice weekend a0AxKNe5qzu-01561-00367304-00367495 um a0AxKNe5qzu-01562-00367496-00367727 hopefully everybody received a copy of a0AxKNe5qzu-01563-00367728-00367757 the a0AxKNe5qzu-01564-00367758-00367871 [Music] a0AxKNe5qzu-01565-00367872-00368039 document that you can see on the screen a0AxKNe5qzu-01566-00368040-00368151 right now a0AxKNe5qzu-01567-00368152-00368375 along with your agenda a0AxKNe5qzu-01568-00368376-00368582 so um i think this is going to be pretty a0AxKNe5qzu-01569-00368583-00368847 quick because there's not a huge amount a0AxKNe5qzu-01570-00368848-00369015 of changes from the last time that we a0AxKNe5qzu-01571-00369016-00369415 spoke um last month so a0AxKNe5qzu-01572-00369416-00369582 i'll just start at the top and work my a0AxKNe5qzu-01573-00369583-00369734 way down a0AxKNe5qzu-01574-00369735-00370006 as far as the fish flow project goes i a0AxKNe5qzu-01575-00370007-00370158 don't think there's any changes from the a0AxKNe5qzu-01576-00370159-00370343 last time we spoke at the lac tech a0AxKNe5qzu-01577-00370344-00370567 meeting last month a0AxKNe5qzu-01578-00370568-00370758 and just a a0AxKNe5qzu-01579-00370759-00370967 super quick summary we do a0AxKNe5qzu-01580-00370968-00371191 hope to have our circulated draft of the a0AxKNe5qzu-01581-00371192-00371639 eir for this project in 2022 so a0AxKNe5qzu-01582-00371640-00371919 the next item down is is fish monitoring a0AxKNe5qzu-01583-00371920-00372127 i think everybody is aware that we ended a0AxKNe5qzu-01584-00372128-00372382 up having to remove our video a0AxKNe5qzu-01585-00372383-00372639 monitoring system because of that large a0AxKNe5qzu-01586-00372640-00372830 atmospheric river at the end towards the a0AxKNe5qzu-01587-00372831-00373015 end of october a0AxKNe5qzu-01588-00373016-00373167 so we have not a0AxKNe5qzu-01589-00373168-00373399 reinstalled that system we probably will a0AxKNe5qzu-01590-00373400-00373551 not install it for the rest of the a0AxKNe5qzu-01591-00373552-00373815 season a0AxKNe5qzu-01592-00373816-00374071 it's a very short monitoring season for a0AxKNe5qzu-01593-00374072-00374375 us um so it'll be interesting a0AxKNe5qzu-01594-00374376-00374615 to see as we go out into the future if a0AxKNe5qzu-01595-00374616-00374895 this happens again a0AxKNe5qzu-01596-00374896-00375215 they will be relying on a0AxKNe5qzu-01597-00375216-00375463 spanish surveys in the main stem and dry a0AxKNe5qzu-01598-00375464-00375767 creek instead of relying on those counts a0AxKNe5qzu-01599-00375768-00376023 for from that video system a0AxKNe5qzu-01600-00376024-00376310 um with regards to chinook spawning so a0AxKNe5qzu-01601-00376311-00376430 um a0AxKNe5qzu-01602-00376431-00376558 that will have to a0AxKNe5qzu-01603-00376559-00376710 be done a little bit differently this a0AxKNe5qzu-01604-00376711-00376847 year a0AxKNe5qzu-01605-00376848-00377054 um the next item down is dry creek a0AxKNe5qzu-01606-00377055-00377239 habitat enhancement a0AxKNe5qzu-01607-00377240-00377406 work um a0AxKNe5qzu-01608-00377407-00377543 i think that a0AxKNe5qzu-01609-00377544-00377758 this may have been a pretty equivalent a0AxKNe5qzu-01610-00377759-00377991 update to last when you saw that the a0AxKNe5qzu-01611-00377992-00378158 contractor that was out there working a0AxKNe5qzu-01612-00378159-00378287 this summer a0AxKNe5qzu-01613-00378288-00378471 did complete a0AxKNe5qzu-01614-00378472-00378782 the phase three reach 5a project work in a0AxKNe5qzu-01615-00378783-00379015 late september they're fully demobilized a0AxKNe5qzu-01616-00379016-00379278 from the site there was some minor a0AxKNe5qzu-01617-00379279-00379406 damage a0AxKNe5qzu-01618-00379407-00379478 to a0AxKNe5qzu-01619-00379479-00379823 that site um from that october 24th a0AxKNe5qzu-01620-00379824-00379991 atmospheric river a0AxKNe5qzu-01621-00379992-00380247 um so they have gone back out a0AxKNe5qzu-01622-00380248-00380454 and reinstalled some erosion control a0AxKNe5qzu-01623-00380455-00380743 fabric and and fixed sort of a a0AxKNe5qzu-01624-00380744-00380943 an eroded area a0AxKNe5qzu-01625-00380944-00381191 from that project a0AxKNe5qzu-01626-00381192-00381287 and a0AxKNe5qzu-01627-00381288-00381392 we are out there a0AxKNe5qzu-01628-00381393-00381543 [Music] a0AxKNe5qzu-01629-00381544-00381702 installing more willow cuttings a0AxKNe5qzu-01630-00381703-00381878 hopefully we'll get some more rain so a0AxKNe5qzu-01631-00381879-00382223 that those wheels can take off but a0AxKNe5qzu-01632-00382224-00382478 that's what's going on there as far as a0AxKNe5qzu-01633-00382479-00382695 current construction goes a0AxKNe5qzu-01634-00382696-00382967 um as far as oh and there's some really a0AxKNe5qzu-01635-00382968-00383247 good photos in here so you can see a0AxKNe5qzu-01636-00383248-00383351 um a0AxKNe5qzu-01637-00383352-00383678 photo on the left here is early october a0AxKNe5qzu-01638-00383679-00383958 an aerial view a0AxKNe5qzu-01639-00383959-00384254 from a drone of that project a0AxKNe5qzu-01640-00384255-00384430 and then to the right the photo on the a0AxKNe5qzu-01641-00384431-00384654 right hand side is that same project a0AxKNe5qzu-01642-00384655-00384854 after the atmospheric river event you a0AxKNe5qzu-01643-00384855-00385078 can see the blue circle a0AxKNe5qzu-01644-00385079-00385367 which shows the bank failure a0AxKNe5qzu-01645-00385368-00385471 area a0AxKNe5qzu-01646-00385472-00385663 that's circled in blue there and if you a0AxKNe5qzu-01647-00385664-00385871 go down a0AxKNe5qzu-01648-00385872-00386199 you can see a photograph of where that a0AxKNe5qzu-01649-00386200-00386367 erosion control a0AxKNe5qzu-01650-00386368-00386502 fabric got a0AxKNe5qzu-01651-00386503-00386734 sort of ripped away and that bank a0AxKNe5qzu-01652-00386735-00387071 failure happened and if you keep going a0AxKNe5qzu-01653-00387072-00387415 um you can see the the um a0AxKNe5qzu-01654-00387416-00387575 repaired a0AxKNe5qzu-01655-00387576-00387878 same same area only repaired afterwards a0AxKNe5qzu-01656-00387879-00387967 so a0AxKNe5qzu-01657-00387968-00388199 this is about mid-november after the a0AxKNe5qzu-01658-00388200-00388454 repair happened out there a0AxKNe5qzu-01659-00388455-00388782 thank you whoever's running the um a0AxKNe5qzu-01660-00388783-00389078 the slides here looks great a0AxKNe5qzu-01661-00389079-00389343 as far as habitat monitoring and a0AxKNe5qzu-01662-00389344-00389558 maintenance goes a0AxKNe5qzu-01663-00389559-00389743 they do i think this is a pretty a0AxKNe5qzu-01664-00389744-00389927 equivalent update to what they've been a0AxKNe5qzu-01665-00389928-00390158 doing all along but a0AxKNe5qzu-01666-00390159-00390351 they do continue to do physical and a0AxKNe5qzu-01667-00390352-00390671 biological surveys out on all of the a0AxKNe5qzu-01668-00390672-00390871 sites that have been constructed out in a0AxKNe5qzu-01669-00390872-00391063 dry creek a0AxKNe5qzu-01670-00391064-00391351 and as you could have seen from the a0AxKNe5qzu-01671-00391352-00391639 photographs that were included here a0AxKNe5qzu-01672-00391640-00392023 there was a drone flight flown up there a0AxKNe5qzu-01673-00392024-00392119 in a0AxKNe5qzu-01674-00392120-00392430 at the end of october or early november a0AxKNe5qzu-01675-00392431-00392767 um to um to just check to see how things a0AxKNe5qzu-01676-00392768-00392991 how things were going um after that a0AxKNe5qzu-01677-00392992-00393239 rainfall in october so a0AxKNe5qzu-01678-00393240-00393519 that large rainfall then a0AxKNe5qzu-01679-00393520-00393839 okay as far as phases four through six a0AxKNe5qzu-01680-00393840-00393991 go um a0AxKNe5qzu-01681-00393992-00394230 i don't see any really big updates here a0AxKNe5qzu-01682-00394231-00394439 so i think everybody knows that we did a0AxKNe5qzu-01683-00394440-00394654 complete the bid documents for phase a0AxKNe5qzu-01684-00394655-00394751 four a0AxKNe5qzu-01685-00394752-00394910 we were hoping to go to construction on a0AxKNe5qzu-01686-00394911-00395102 that this last summer but that didn't a0AxKNe5qzu-01687-00395103-00395391 happen so the plan is to go next summer a0AxKNe5qzu-01688-00395392-00395719 um we are waiting um right now for some a0AxKNe5qzu-01689-00395720-00395919 final a0AxKNe5qzu-01690-00395920-00396158 comments back or responses back from a0AxKNe5qzu-01691-00396159-00396399 property owners a0AxKNe5qzu-01692-00396400-00396582 that a0AxKNe5qzu-01693-00396583-00396823 the corps did change some of the a0AxKNe5qzu-01694-00396824-00396982 terms that were included in the a0AxKNe5qzu-01695-00396983-00397143 right-of-way documents and so we're a0AxKNe5qzu-01696-00397144-00397327 waiting for some response back from a0AxKNe5qzu-01697-00397328-00397478 property owners a0AxKNe5qzu-01698-00397479-00397623 i think they're hoping to have those a0AxKNe5qzu-01699-00397624-00397839 back fairly soon so that they can get a0AxKNe5qzu-01700-00397840-00397934 this a0AxKNe5qzu-01701-00397935-00398358 out in the springtime bid and bid and um a0AxKNe5qzu-01702-00398359-00398702 you know ready to go for this summer a0AxKNe5qzu-01703-00398703-00399095 as far as phases five and six go a0AxKNe5qzu-01704-00399096-00399382 again phase five the plan would be to a0AxKNe5qzu-01705-00399383-00399654 construct in 2023. a0AxKNe5qzu-01706-00399655-00399910 phase six would be for construction in a0AxKNe5qzu-01707-00399911-00400078 2024. a0AxKNe5qzu-01708-00400079-00400271 uh the designs have been i think at the a0AxKNe5qzu-01709-00400272-00400463 same spot this ninety-nine percent a0AxKNe5qzu-01710-00400464-00400647 middle for a while now a0AxKNe5qzu-01711-00400648-00400902 and really the effort is being put into a0AxKNe5qzu-01712-00400903-00401239 the right way um which seems to be a0AxKNe5qzu-01713-00401240-00401502 what takes so long and so much resources a0AxKNe5qzu-01714-00401503-00401671 so um a0AxKNe5qzu-01715-00401672-00401919 they are working with uh property owners a0AxKNe5qzu-01716-00401920-00402199 on face phase five sites a0AxKNe5qzu-01717-00402200-00402454 um on appraisals and compensation a0AxKNe5qzu-01718-00402455-00402647 estimates for those sites and they're a0AxKNe5qzu-01719-00402648-00402895 also working about a0AxKNe5qzu-01720-00402896-00403102 on phase six with regards to access a0AxKNe5qzu-01721-00403103-00403327 routes and staging areas and trying to a0AxKNe5qzu-01722-00403328-00403519 identify those so that they can get a0AxKNe5qzu-01723-00403520-00403847 offers out to the property owners a0AxKNe5qzu-01724-00403848-00404167 also on um phase five there is this a0AxKNe5qzu-01725-00404168-00404399 additional site that's being a0AxKNe5qzu-01726-00404400-00404663 worked on there's a 30 design that's a0AxKNe5qzu-01727-00404664-00404791 done a0AxKNe5qzu-01728-00404792-00404943 and a0AxKNe5qzu-01729-00404944-00405134 they're hoping to get a0AxKNe5qzu-01730-00405135-00405334 some of the resource agencies out there a0AxKNe5qzu-01731-00405335-00405582 to look at a0AxKNe5qzu-01732-00405583-00405823 this project but i know that we've had a0AxKNe5qzu-01733-00405824-00406015 issues with a0AxKNe5qzu-01734-00406016-00406239 specifically specifically with national a0AxKNe5qzu-01735-00406240-00406406 marine fisheries service not being able a0AxKNe5qzu-01736-00406407-00406630 to go out in the field so a0AxKNe5qzu-01737-00406631-00406871 hopefully that log jam will get broken a0AxKNe5qzu-01738-00406872-00407039 at some point we can get them out there a0AxKNe5qzu-01739-00407040-00407327 to look at it they do have some limited a0AxKNe5qzu-01740-00407328-00407510 ability to go out in the field but i'm a0AxKNe5qzu-01741-00407511-00407767 not sure that this qualifies under their a0AxKNe5qzu-01742-00407768-00407951 sort of exemptions so we'll see if they a0AxKNe5qzu-01743-00407952-00408271 can get out there or not sometime soon a0AxKNe5qzu-01744-00408272-00408527 russian river estuary management um the a0AxKNe5qzu-01745-00408528-00408710 mouth of the estuary a0AxKNe5qzu-01746-00408711-00408999 did close in late november day after a0AxKNe5qzu-01747-00409000-00409206 thanksgiving i think it was a0AxKNe5qzu-01748-00409207-00409527 itself breached a couple days later a0AxKNe5qzu-01749-00409528-00409766 this update was done before a0AxKNe5qzu-01750-00409767-00410126 last week it also closed again last week a0AxKNe5qzu-01751-00410127-00410487 and itself breached over the weekend a0AxKNe5qzu-01752-00410488-00410622 so a0AxKNe5qzu-01753-00410623-00410863 we um had actually scheduled to be out a0AxKNe5qzu-01754-00410864-00411199 there to do a mechanical breach today a0AxKNe5qzu-01755-00411200-00411374 but since it's self breached over the a0AxKNe5qzu-01756-00411375-00411655 weekend we don't have to do that a0AxKNe5qzu-01757-00411656-00412039 but we are in what we refer to um as the a0AxKNe5qzu-01758-00412039-00412207 sort of the winter season not the a0AxKNe5qzu-01759-00412208-00412478 estuary management season which is which a0AxKNe5qzu-01760-00412479-00412734 ended on october 15th a0AxKNe5qzu-01761-00412735-00413039 um and there is water quality monitoring a0AxKNe5qzu-01762-00413039-00413247 and other things going on in the estuary a0AxKNe5qzu-01763-00413247-00413487 still at this point although a0AxKNe5qzu-01764-00413488-00413614 i don't know how much of it because i a0AxKNe5qzu-01765-00413615-00413839 know some of the equipment got pulled a0AxKNe5qzu-01766-00413839-00414159 during that those high flows a0AxKNe5qzu-01767-00414160-00414399 um interim flow changes which is the a0AxKNe5qzu-01768-00414400-00414614 last item here don already gave an a0AxKNe5qzu-01769-00414615-00414791 update on this so unless there's any a0AxKNe5qzu-01770-00414792-00415022 questions i probably just won't a0AxKNe5qzu-01771-00415023-00415263 mention anything there um as it's a0AxKNe5qzu-01772-00415264-00415430 already been covered a0AxKNe5qzu-01773-00415431-00415703 and that's it for me drew a0AxKNe5qzu-01774-00415704-00415910 okay thank you pam we'll come back to a0AxKNe5qzu-01775-00415912-00416078 the tack a0AxKNe5qzu-01776-00416079-00416278 any questions from the attack on pam's a0AxKNe5qzu-01777-00416279-00416774 report a0AxKNe5qzu-01778-00416775-00417134 let's see anybody raising any hands pam a0AxKNe5qzu-01779-00417135-00417359 i have a question i see that a0AxKNe5qzu-01780-00417360-00417607 david manning is also a0AxKNe5qzu-01781-00417608-00417878 participating in this meeting in case a0AxKNe5qzu-01782-00417879-00418070 you need any backup on the a0AxKNe5qzu-01783-00418071-00418422 on the erosion that occurred a0AxKNe5qzu-01784-00418423-00418910 due to the october 23 24 storm which had a0AxKNe5qzu-01785-00418912-00419055 in the right up here it talks about a0AxKNe5qzu-01786-00419056-00419479 three 3000 cfs a0AxKNe5qzu-01787-00419480-00419783 is was that a0AxKNe5qzu-01788-00419784-00420047 was that expected at that flow i mean a0AxKNe5qzu-01789-00420047-00420310 that that to me sounds kind of like a a0AxKNe5qzu-01790-00420312-00420607 relatively low number compared to what a0AxKNe5qzu-01791-00420608-00420710 back in a0AxKNe5qzu-01792-00420712-00421007 and february of 2019 when there was some a0AxKNe5qzu-01793-00421008-00421255 erosion back then so i'm just just a0AxKNe5qzu-01794-00421256-00421527 trying to put it in perspective of this a0AxKNe5qzu-01795-00421528-00421766 this event versus um a0AxKNe5qzu-01796-00421767-00421910 you know a0AxKNe5qzu-01797-00421912-00422159 kind of the design event or what or what a0AxKNe5qzu-01798-00422160-00422703 we saw in that february 2019 a0AxKNe5qzu-01799-00422704-00422966 yeah to me it's kind of a low a0AxKNe5qzu-01800-00422967-00423222 lower on the lower end of higher flows a0AxKNe5qzu-01801-00423223-00423479 and dry creek also but david if you're a0AxKNe5qzu-01802-00423480-00423718 there and if somebody could take him a0AxKNe5qzu-01803-00423719-00423943 let him and that would be great a0AxKNe5qzu-01804-00423943-00424222 sure yeah drew you're right it is on the a0AxKNe5qzu-01805-00424223-00424383 lower end a0AxKNe5qzu-01806-00424384-00424591 it's it's it's still a significant a0AxKNe5qzu-01807-00424592-00424814 amount of flow but a0AxKNe5qzu-01808-00424815-00425087 the project being as young as it is a0AxKNe5qzu-01809-00425088-00425366 without any vegetation to stabilize a0AxKNe5qzu-01810-00425367-00425447 uh a0AxKNe5qzu-01811-00425447-00425687 that particular spot it was vulnerable a0AxKNe5qzu-01812-00425688-00425959 it's also the inlet to one of the side a0AxKNe5qzu-01813-00425960-00426175 channels so it's sort of uh a0AxKNe5qzu-01814-00426176-00426407 it sticks out in the flow really and it a0AxKNe5qzu-01815-00426408-00426703 takes the brunt of the high flow but we a0AxKNe5qzu-01816-00426704-00426822 agree a0AxKNe5qzu-01817-00426823-00426903 uh a0AxKNe5qzu-01818-00426904-00427039 it should have it should have been more a0AxKNe5qzu-01819-00427039-00427422 durable than that a0AxKNe5qzu-01820-00427423-00427527 okay a0AxKNe5qzu-01821-00427528-00427718 all right thank you david a0AxKNe5qzu-01822-00427719-00428535 um i think my dog agrees a0AxKNe5qzu-01823-00428535-00428751 i guess david's dog had more to add but a0AxKNe5qzu-01824-00428752-00429087 i i'm not very good at dog's feet so a0AxKNe5qzu-01825-00429088-00429222 i think we're going to be hearing a lot a0AxKNe5qzu-01826-00429223-00429359 of that because a lot of people are a0AxKNe5qzu-01827-00429360-00429614 getting deliveries these days yeah a0AxKNe5qzu-01828-00429615-00429766 for the holidays a0AxKNe5qzu-01829-00429767-00429870 okay a0AxKNe5qzu-01830-00429871-00430039 any other questions comments from the a0AxKNe5qzu-01831-00430039-00430207 tech before i open it up for public a0AxKNe5qzu-01832-00430208-00430343 comment a0AxKNe5qzu-01833-00430343-00430551 i don't see any a0AxKNe5qzu-01834-00430552-00430775 okay so we'll open this up for public a0AxKNe5qzu-01835-00430776-00430966 comment if you wish to make a comment a0AxKNe5qzu-01836-00430967-00431183 via zoom please raise your hand or dial a0AxKNe5qzu-01837-00431184-00431670 star 9. a0AxKNe5qzu-01838-00431671-00431966 i do not see any raised hands a0AxKNe5qzu-01839-00431967-00432047 okay a0AxKNe5qzu-01840-00432047-00432214 thank you easter a0AxKNe5qzu-01841-00432215-00432407 that brings us to agenda item number a0AxKNe5qzu-01842-00432408-00432683 nine potter valley project update and a0AxKNe5qzu-01843-00432684-00432959 pam uh you're on again a0AxKNe5qzu-01844-00432960-00433166 yeah um a0AxKNe5qzu-01845-00433167-00433383 again i don't think there's a huge um a0AxKNe5qzu-01846-00433384-00433566 update from a0AxKNe5qzu-01847-00433567-00433910 um last month the wac pac meeting a0AxKNe5qzu-01848-00433912-00434047 but um a0AxKNe5qzu-01849-00434047-00434463 i do want to make sure to thank all of a0AxKNe5qzu-01850-00434464-00434710 all of you all the water contractors in a0AxKNe5qzu-01851-00434712-00434983 marine municipal for signing this a0AxKNe5qzu-01852-00434984-00435191 letter that's up on the on the screen a0AxKNe5qzu-01853-00435192-00435343 right now a0AxKNe5qzu-01854-00435343-00435510 um as i a0AxKNe5qzu-01855-00435512-00435839 spoke to back last month um a0AxKNe5qzu-01856-00435839-00436087 the water agency uh actually was in the a0AxKNe5qzu-01857-00436088-00436310 process of developing a grant a0AxKNe5qzu-01858-00436312-00436495 application at that time but we did a0AxKNe5qzu-01859-00436496-00436710 submit a grant application a0AxKNe5qzu-01860-00436712-00437127 it was on the 17th or 18th of november a0AxKNe5qzu-01861-00437128-00437231 and a0AxKNe5qzu-01862-00437232-00437470 it was submitted under this a0AxKNe5qzu-01863-00437471-00437887 drought grant relief program and a0AxKNe5qzu-01864-00437888-00438055 we're hoping to a0AxKNe5qzu-01865-00438056-00438263 get around 2 million a0AxKNe5qzu-01866-00438264-00438518 to do some work with regards to water a0AxKNe5qzu-01867-00438519-00438718 supply really it's kind of a0AxKNe5qzu-01868-00438719-00438959 centered around water supply reliability a0AxKNe5qzu-01869-00438960-00439191 for the russian river a0AxKNe5qzu-01870-00439192-00439359 and i described a0AxKNe5qzu-01871-00439360-00439431 the a0AxKNe5qzu-01872-00439432-00439631 application last month so i'm not going a0AxKNe5qzu-01873-00439632-00439814 to spend time doing that unless somebody a0AxKNe5qzu-01874-00439815-00440055 really really wants to hear it a0AxKNe5qzu-01875-00440056-00440287 but that's kind of the biggest thing a0AxKNe5qzu-01876-00440288-00440655 going on from sonama waters perspective a0AxKNe5qzu-01877-00440656-00440870 the partners the two basin solution a0AxKNe5qzu-01878-00440871-00441118 partnership a0AxKNe5qzu-01879-00441119-00441335 one of the partners cal trout is also a0AxKNe5qzu-01880-00441335-00441527 sort of leading the charge on a grant a0AxKNe5qzu-01881-00441528-00441759 application or a0AxKNe5qzu-01882-00441760-00442095 some documentation with a grant that a0AxKNe5qzu-01883-00442096-00442199 we're hoping a0AxKNe5qzu-01884-00442200-00442439 to get from california department of a0AxKNe5qzu-01885-00442439-00442679 fish and wildlife a0AxKNe5qzu-01886-00442680-00442799 which is a0AxKNe5qzu-01887-00442800-00443047 really kind of centered more around a0AxKNe5qzu-01888-00443047-00443263 fishery and fishery enhancement a0AxKNe5qzu-01889-00443264-00443463 restoration work a0AxKNe5qzu-01890-00443464-00443727 so um they're seeking a grant for about a0AxKNe5qzu-01891-00443728-00443883 750 a0AxKNe5qzu-01892-00443884-00444175 000. from cdfw a0AxKNe5qzu-01893-00444176-00444351 and um a0AxKNe5qzu-01894-00444352-00444583 i think that we're go they're going to a0AxKNe5qzu-01895-00444584-00444759 be submitting some documentation on that a0AxKNe5qzu-01896-00444760-00445063 fairly soon i'm not sure exactly when a0AxKNe5qzu-01897-00445064-00445231 so um a0AxKNe5qzu-01898-00445232-00445399 so that's what's going on there those a0AxKNe5qzu-01899-00445400-00445783 are sort of two things going on a0AxKNe5qzu-01900-00445784-00446127 we have not heard back from a0AxKNe5qzu-01901-00446128-00446231 ferc a0AxKNe5qzu-01902-00446232-00446559 we've submitted a status update report a0AxKNe5qzu-01903-00446560-00446735 to them a0AxKNe5qzu-01904-00446735-00446839 in november a0AxKNe5qzu-01905-00446839-00447047 when it was due a0AxKNe5qzu-01906-00447047-00447199 and a0AxKNe5qzu-01907-00447200-00447439 we have not heard back from them um a0AxKNe5qzu-01908-00447439-00447718 based on our submittal at that time a0AxKNe5qzu-01909-00447719-00447895 so i'm not i'm not sure when we'll hear a0AxKNe5qzu-01910-00447896-00448143 from them um but hopefully we'll hear a0AxKNe5qzu-01911-00448143-00448414 back from them on that status update a0AxKNe5qzu-01912-00448415-00448687 uh our next update to a0AxKNe5qzu-01913-00448688-00449087 to ferc is due at the end of january a0AxKNe5qzu-01914-00449088-00449383 um and that's in accordance with um the a0AxKNe5qzu-01915-00449384-00449718 response that they provided to us a0AxKNe5qzu-01916-00449719-00450031 in based on our september letter to them a0AxKNe5qzu-01917-00450032-00450287 about where we're at in terms of a0AxKNe5qzu-01918-00450288-00450631 re-licensing so or licensing a0AxKNe5qzu-01919-00450632-00450927 so again in september we let them know a0AxKNe5qzu-01920-00450928-00451079 that a0AxKNe5qzu-01921-00451080-00451303 you know we're not we weren't going to a0AxKNe5qzu-01922-00451304-00451399 have a0AxKNe5qzu-01923-00451400-00451631 studies done and that sort of thing so a0AxKNe5qzu-01924-00451632-00451983 we had a report due to them at the end a0AxKNe5qzu-01925-00451984-00452335 of well sort of middle of november-ish a0AxKNe5qzu-01926-00452335-00452631 another one due at the end of january a0AxKNe5qzu-01927-00452632-00452879 and then a license application is due in a0AxKNe5qzu-01928-00452880-00453079 april which is when the current license a0AxKNe5qzu-01929-00453080-00453399 for powder valley project expires a0AxKNe5qzu-01930-00453400-00453551 and um a0AxKNe5qzu-01931-00453552-00453751 so we did provide a status update to a0AxKNe5qzu-01932-00453752-00453975 them in november but we haven't heard a0AxKNe5qzu-01933-00453976-00454166 back on that a0AxKNe5qzu-01934-00454167-00454295 um a0AxKNe5qzu-01935-00454296-00454527 and i think that's it drew a0AxKNe5qzu-01936-00454528-00454622 um a0AxKNe5qzu-01937-00454623-00454799 unless okay the other thing i could a0AxKNe5qzu-01938-00454800-00455031 cover don kind of spoke to this not so a0AxKNe5qzu-01939-00455032-00455159 much but a0AxKNe5qzu-01940-00455160-00455414 is the operation up there at the project a0AxKNe5qzu-01941-00455415-00455614 um a0AxKNe5qzu-01942-00455615-00455879 so as i think we spoke about in november a0AxKNe5qzu-01943-00455880-00456087 with at the wac tech meeting a0AxKNe5qzu-01944-00456088-00456207 pg e a0AxKNe5qzu-01945-00456208-00456414 is not generating power at this time we a0AxKNe5qzu-01946-00456415-00456599 don't expect to be able to generate a0AxKNe5qzu-01947-00456600-00456847 power for quite some time a0AxKNe5qzu-01948-00456847-00457166 and that's assuming that they actually a0AxKNe5qzu-01949-00457167-00457495 do some repairs um perhaps replacement a0AxKNe5qzu-01950-00457496-00457607 of a0AxKNe5qzu-01951-00457608-00457910 some transformers up at their facility a0AxKNe5qzu-01952-00457912-00458135 so they are a0AxKNe5qzu-01953-00458135-00458222 um a0AxKNe5qzu-01954-00458223-00458383 continuing to a0AxKNe5qzu-01955-00458384-00458566 import water or a0AxKNe5qzu-01956-00458567-00458695 um a0AxKNe5qzu-01957-00458696-00458895 move water from the eel to the russian a0AxKNe5qzu-01958-00458896-00459007 but they're a0AxKNe5qzu-01959-00459008-00459247 doing it in accordance with a0AxKNe5qzu-01960-00459247-00459391 their a0AxKNe5qzu-01961-00459392-00459670 requirements regulatory requirements and a0AxKNe5qzu-01962-00459671-00459847 their requirement for their contract a0AxKNe5qzu-01963-00459847-00460039 with potter valley irrigation district a0AxKNe5qzu-01964-00460039-00460159 so a0AxKNe5qzu-01965-00460160-00460414 the total diversion is about 45 cubic a0AxKNe5qzu-01966-00460415-00460591 feet per second a0AxKNe5qzu-01967-00460592-00460799 they have the physical ability to do a0AxKNe5qzu-01968-00460800-00460943 more than that but since they're not a0AxKNe5qzu-01969-00460943-00461110 generating power a0AxKNe5qzu-01970-00461112-00461543 they are not doing more than that um and a0AxKNe5qzu-01971-00461543-00461799 uh probably will not be for a long long a0AxKNe5qzu-01972-00461800-00462095 time um so a0AxKNe5qzu-01973-00462096-00462414 that's where we're at on that now we are a0AxKNe5qzu-01974-00462415-00462535 trying to a0AxKNe5qzu-01975-00462535-00462759 get support to a0AxKNe5qzu-01976-00462760-00463047 make a request of pg e that they a0AxKNe5qzu-01977-00463047-00463151 um a0AxKNe5qzu-01978-00463152-00463359 go ahead and exercise their water right a0AxKNe5qzu-01979-00463360-00463622 even if they're not generating power and a0AxKNe5qzu-01980-00463623-00463743 and a0AxKNe5qzu-01981-00463743-00463983 import more water or transfer more water a0AxKNe5qzu-01982-00463984-00464191 through the project but a0AxKNe5qzu-01983-00464192-00464279 um a0AxKNe5qzu-01984-00464280-00464575 that formal or informal as the case may a0AxKNe5qzu-01985-00464576-00464766 be your request hasn't been made at this a0AxKNe5qzu-01986-00464767-00464970 point a0AxKNe5qzu-01987-00464971-00465199 [Music] a0AxKNe5qzu-01988-00465200-00465447 and i'm happy to answer any questions a0AxKNe5qzu-01989-00465447-00465670 okay thanks pam um a0AxKNe5qzu-01990-00465671-00465863 just related to your a0AxKNe5qzu-01991-00465864-00466103 update on the diversions from the potter a0AxKNe5qzu-01992-00466104-00466303 valley project do you know if that a0AxKNe5qzu-01993-00466304-00466479 request a0AxKNe5qzu-01994-00466480-00466743 to pg e will be made sometime during a0AxKNe5qzu-01995-00466743-00467039 this month a0AxKNe5qzu-01996-00467039-00467359 grant you want to take that a0AxKNe5qzu-01997-00467360-00467543 yeah i would anticipate that we're going a0AxKNe5qzu-01998-00467543-00467670 to try and get a request in we've a0AxKNe5qzu-01999-00467671-00467879 already made an initial inquiry and a0AxKNe5qzu-02000-00467880-00468151 we're going to continue to seek uh a0AxKNe5qzu-02001-00468152-00468447 that window that's open once uh lake a0AxKNe5qzu-02002-00468447-00468639 pillsbury hopefully begins to spill it's a0AxKNe5qzu-02003-00468639-00468870 a very narrow period between now and a0AxKNe5qzu-02004-00468871-00469070 uh when that what occurs through uh a0AxKNe5qzu-02005-00469071-00469351 sometime in march a0AxKNe5qzu-02006-00469352-00469510 okay yeah that would be a0AxKNe5qzu-02007-00469512-00469759 it'd be definitely good to stay on that a0AxKNe5qzu-02008-00469760-00469895 and try to get that a0AxKNe5qzu-02009-00469896-00470014 approval a0AxKNe5qzu-02010-00470015-00470135 um a0AxKNe5qzu-02011-00470135-00470727 other questions comments from the tax a0AxKNe5qzu-02012-00470728-00470951 i don't see any so we'll open it up for a0AxKNe5qzu-02013-00470952-00471135 a public comment again this is agenda a0AxKNe5qzu-02014-00471135-00471359 item number nine potter valley project a0AxKNe5qzu-02015-00471360-00471470 update a0AxKNe5qzu-02016-00471471-00471695 uh please raise your hand via zoom or a0AxKNe5qzu-02017-00471696-00472047 dial star line uh via phone a0AxKNe5qzu-02018-00472047-00472222 you do have a hand raised from david a0AxKNe5qzu-02019-00472223-00472335 keller a0AxKNe5qzu-02020-00472335-00472607 you are able to speak a0AxKNe5qzu-02021-00472608-00472847 go ahead david all right hi good morning a0AxKNe5qzu-02022-00472847-00473143 thank you pam for the information a0AxKNe5qzu-02023-00473143-00473295 um i do have a a0AxKNe5qzu-02024-00473296-00473551 question about the a0AxKNe5qzu-02025-00473552-00473775 resuscitation of the mendocino county a0AxKNe5qzu-02026-00473776-00474070 water agency a0AxKNe5qzu-02027-00474071-00474407 which looks like primarily a0AxKNe5qzu-02028-00474408-00474543 focused on a0AxKNe5qzu-02029-00474543-00474751 addressing drought issues in the county a0AxKNe5qzu-02030-00474752-00474943 as a unified agency a0AxKNe5qzu-02031-00474943-00475183 but i've wondered also whether or not a0AxKNe5qzu-02032-00475184-00475399 you've heard anything about that a0AxKNe5qzu-02033-00475400-00475710 potential potentially being used a0AxKNe5qzu-02034-00475712-00476039 as to create a funding vehicle for a0AxKNe5qzu-02035-00476039-00476303 future operation and maintenance a0AxKNe5qzu-02036-00476304-00476622 of a water transfer project after the a0AxKNe5qzu-02037-00476623-00476847 pvp is a0AxKNe5qzu-02038-00476847-00476991 decommissioned a0AxKNe5qzu-02039-00476992-00477143 it looks like it could be set up for a0AxKNe5qzu-02040-00477143-00477295 that but it's unclear have you heard a0AxKNe5qzu-02041-00477296-00477470 anything about that a0AxKNe5qzu-02042-00477471-00477670 i have not david i don't know if grant a0AxKNe5qzu-02043-00477671-00477991 has or not but um i don't you know my a0AxKNe5qzu-02044-00477992-00478222 understanding is that water agency is a0AxKNe5qzu-02045-00478223-00478495 funded via general fund from the county a0AxKNe5qzu-02046-00478496-00478791 of mendocino a0AxKNe5qzu-02047-00478792-00478951 so i don't know what mechanism they a0AxKNe5qzu-02048-00478952-00479207 would use a0AxKNe5qzu-02049-00479208-00479391 to you know gain a0AxKNe5qzu-02050-00479392-00479695 additional revenues and potentially a0AxKNe5qzu-02051-00479696-00479927 provide a0AxKNe5qzu-02052-00479928-00480159 you know revenue for something like that a0AxKNe5qzu-02053-00480160-00480359 i i just i don't know enough about the a0AxKNe5qzu-02054-00480360-00480551 way they're set up and what their a0AxKNe5qzu-02055-00480552-00480870 authorities are a0AxKNe5qzu-02056-00480871-00481103 grant me no more a0AxKNe5qzu-02057-00481104-00481287 yeah they've recently reactivated that a0AxKNe5qzu-02058-00481288-00481447 however i think it's a much broader a0AxKNe5qzu-02059-00481447-00481687 purpose than than anything like that as a0AxKNe5qzu-02060-00481688-00481862 a vehicle they're we're looking for a a0AxKNe5qzu-02061-00481863-00482047 vehicle though david that could actually a0AxKNe5qzu-02062-00482047-00482262 monetize supplies coming through the a0AxKNe5qzu-02063-00482263-00482470 diversion along the lines of the two a0AxKNe5qzu-02064-00482471-00482622 basin solution and the run of the river a0AxKNe5qzu-02065-00482623-00482743 concept a0AxKNe5qzu-02066-00482743-00482983 so that's always been as you know an a0AxKNe5qzu-02067-00482984-00483166 ongoing challenge to determine how to a0AxKNe5qzu-02068-00483167-00483310 put put something together that could a0AxKNe5qzu-02069-00483312-00483422 actually a0AxKNe5qzu-02070-00483423-00483543 be the a0AxKNe5qzu-02071-00483543-00483879 the entity that helps facilitate that a0AxKNe5qzu-02072-00483880-00484039 um so a0AxKNe5qzu-02073-00484039-00484135 but i a0AxKNe5qzu-02074-00484135-00484318 i'm not sure i haven't heard that the a0AxKNe5qzu-02075-00484319-00484518 mendocino county water agency would be a0AxKNe5qzu-02076-00484519-00484735 the vehicle it is broader it's county a0AxKNe5qzu-02077-00484735-00484935 specific i don't think it would be a0AxKNe5qzu-02078-00484935-00485095 reduced down to a single purpose like a0AxKNe5qzu-02079-00485096-00485391 like we're going to probably need a0AxKNe5qzu-02080-00485392-00485718 yeah and looking at the contract a0AxKNe5qzu-02081-00485719-00485959 for coming up with a plan for the the a0AxKNe5qzu-02082-00485960-00486087 eventual a0AxKNe5qzu-02083-00486088-00486327 uh operation and structure of the a0AxKNe5qzu-02084-00486328-00486503 mancino county water agency it looks a0AxKNe5qzu-02085-00486504-00486743 like it they are looking at potential a0AxKNe5qzu-02086-00486743-00487047 funding vehicles and funding sources so a0AxKNe5qzu-02087-00487047-00487247 i was hoping maybe they might be looking a0AxKNe5qzu-02088-00487247-00487535 at a way to to raise revenue from a0AxKNe5qzu-02089-00487535-00487710 beneficiaries of the a0AxKNe5qzu-02090-00487712-00487927 water transfer a0AxKNe5qzu-02091-00487928-00488270 but nothing clear a0AxKNe5qzu-02092-00488271-00488479 and i guess the other question is a0AxKNe5qzu-02093-00488480-00488679 whether or not a0AxKNe5qzu-02094-00488680-00488918 sonoma county water agency a0AxKNe5qzu-02095-00488919-00489199 has been looking or making any progress a0AxKNe5qzu-02096-00489200-00489351 in in a0AxKNe5qzu-02097-00489352-00489575 perhaps creating an irrigation district a0AxKNe5qzu-02098-00489576-00489839 in the middle and upper russian a0AxKNe5qzu-02099-00489839-00490318 as a potential funding vehicle for that a0AxKNe5qzu-02100-00490319-00490447 i think you're probably aware that's a0AxKNe5qzu-02101-00490447-00490631 been a high on our list to find a way to a0AxKNe5qzu-02102-00490632-00490814 actually provide the mechanism that a0AxKNe5qzu-02103-00490815-00491095 facilitate the continued diversion a0AxKNe5qzu-02104-00491096-00491231 under the run of the river and the two a0AxKNe5qzu-02105-00491232-00491375 basin solution a0AxKNe5qzu-02106-00491376-00491462 uh a0AxKNe5qzu-02107-00491463-00491647 their efforts underway that we're aware a0AxKNe5qzu-02108-00491647-00491927 of i'm not sure the exact status a0AxKNe5qzu-02109-00491928-00492118 but something clearly that's going to be a0AxKNe5qzu-02110-00492119-00492222 able to a0AxKNe5qzu-02111-00492223-00492439 facilitate the alexander valley and a0AxKNe5qzu-02112-00492439-00492607 points in mendocino and power valley is a0AxKNe5qzu-02113-00492608-00492799 going to be required as you know a0AxKNe5qzu-02114-00492800-00492883 it's a a0AxKNe5qzu-02115-00492884-00493199 challenge listen david one of the pieces a0AxKNe5qzu-02116-00493200-00493447 of the grant application a0AxKNe5qzu-02117-00493447-00493639 one of the tasks under that grant a0AxKNe5qzu-02118-00493639-00493822 application a0AxKNe5qzu-02119-00493823-00493991 was to a0AxKNe5qzu-02120-00493992-00494255 help with this issue of a0AxKNe5qzu-02121-00494256-00494631 funding and that was to create a a0AxKNe5qzu-02122-00494632-00494862 russian river water users forum so that a0AxKNe5qzu-02123-00494863-00495014 we could a0AxKNe5qzu-02124-00495015-00495207 educate folks find out what their a0AxKNe5qzu-02125-00495208-00495447 interest is identify beneficiaries a0AxKNe5qzu-02126-00495447-00495614 identify whether or not they're willing a0AxKNe5qzu-02127-00495615-00495951 to pay for that transfer of water a0AxKNe5qzu-02128-00495952-00496239 and if so under you know what would that a0AxKNe5qzu-02129-00496239-00496470 look like so that is a piece of that a0AxKNe5qzu-02130-00496471-00496743 grant program if we can a0AxKNe5qzu-02131-00496743-00496983 obtain that grant a0AxKNe5qzu-02132-00496984-00497191 good i'm glad to hear those a0AxKNe5qzu-02133-00497192-00497366 conversations happening i know and a0AxKNe5qzu-02134-00497367-00497518 talking to a0AxKNe5qzu-02135-00497519-00497679 several of the major a0AxKNe5qzu-02136-00497680-00497975 uh wine growers they are anxious to move a0AxKNe5qzu-02137-00497976-00498214 it forward and are certainly willing a0AxKNe5qzu-02138-00498215-00498583 to contribute to cost of o m for a0AxKNe5qzu-02139-00498584-00498862 no less receiving water for a0AxKNe5qzu-02140-00498863-00499031 the upper middle russian a0AxKNe5qzu-02141-00499032-00499239 so i hope that makes some progress a0AxKNe5qzu-02142-00499239-00499431 sooner than later and thank you for the a0AxKNe5qzu-02143-00499432-00499743 work you're doing a0AxKNe5qzu-02144-00499743-00499966 thanks david any other public comments a0AxKNe5qzu-02145-00499967-00500279 on this again agenda item number nine a0AxKNe5qzu-02146-00500280-00500479 we do have a public comment from brenda a0AxKNe5qzu-02147-00500480-00500727 edelman and i will a0AxKNe5qzu-02148-00500728-00500927 looks like brenda's hand went down again a0AxKNe5qzu-02149-00500928-00501110 i'll allow you to see brenda in case you a0AxKNe5qzu-02150-00501112-00501283 wanted a0AxKNe5qzu-02151-00501284-00501759 to okay um i just had a question a0AxKNe5qzu-02152-00501760-00501879 on this a0AxKNe5qzu-02153-00501880-00502166 analyzing and developing concepts for a0AxKNe5qzu-02154-00502167-00502503 projects necessary to improve water a0AxKNe5qzu-02155-00502504-00502879 supply reliability in the river uh what a0AxKNe5qzu-02156-00502880-00503047 kinds of a0AxKNe5qzu-02157-00503047-00503359 concept project concepts are you're a0AxKNe5qzu-02158-00503360-00503951 thinking about and looking at a0AxKNe5qzu-02159-00503952-00504279 is jay still on the line here a0AxKNe5qzu-02160-00504280-00504455 yes a0AxKNe5qzu-02161-00504456-00504591 jay do you want to describe a little bit a0AxKNe5qzu-02162-00504592-00505007 of what the thinking is a0AxKNe5qzu-02163-00505008-00505214 sure a0AxKNe5qzu-02164-00505215-00505735 um a0AxKNe5qzu-02165-00505735-00505999 sorry having trouble with my video a0AxKNe5qzu-02166-00506000-00506214 yeah it's um a0AxKNe5qzu-02167-00506215-00506583 there's a portfolio of options um a0AxKNe5qzu-02168-00506584-00506783 certainly one of the key a0AxKNe5qzu-02169-00506784-00507047 options is forecast to form reservoir a0AxKNe5qzu-02170-00507047-00507207 operations a0AxKNe5qzu-02171-00507208-00507470 on lake mendocino a0AxKNe5qzu-02172-00507471-00507791 and we're also the corps of engineers a0AxKNe5qzu-02173-00507792-00507991 is going to be looking at a0AxKNe5qzu-02174-00507992-00508118 forecast and foreign reservoir a0AxKNe5qzu-02175-00508119-00508399 operations with us and our whole a0AxKNe5qzu-02176-00508400-00508607 steering committee that was involved a0AxKNe5qzu-02177-00508608-00509095 with mendocino at the lake sonomas a0AxKNe5qzu-02178-00509096-00509431 facility also so that's a key area of a0AxKNe5qzu-02179-00509432-00509687 activity for resiliency a0AxKNe5qzu-02180-00509688-00509935 the use of winter water uh conjunctively a0AxKNe5qzu-02181-00509935-00510103 managed between surface water and a0AxKNe5qzu-02182-00510104-00510343 groundwater through recharge a0AxKNe5qzu-02183-00510343-00510631 programs uh there's two flavors of that a0AxKNe5qzu-02184-00510632-00510831 flood mar which is a0AxKNe5qzu-02185-00510832-00511143 um you know taking winter water releases a0AxKNe5qzu-02186-00511143-00511391 and recharging into the alluvial aquifer a0AxKNe5qzu-02187-00511392-00511599 for later use during the summer take a0AxKNe5qzu-02188-00511600-00511814 demands off of the river and the a0AxKNe5qzu-02189-00511815-00511991 reservoir system a0AxKNe5qzu-02190-00511992-00512287 uh during irrigation system season a0AxKNe5qzu-02191-00512288-00512639 certainly in alexander valley and a0AxKNe5qzu-02192-00512639-00512822 ukiah valley has some a0AxKNe5qzu-02193-00512823-00513039 potential that several are starting to a0AxKNe5qzu-02194-00513039-00513166 work on a0AxKNe5qzu-02195-00513167-00513414 and then also aquifer storage and a0AxKNe5qzu-02196-00513415-00513591 recovery which is another flavor of a0AxKNe5qzu-02197-00513592-00513783 using winter water to recharge down in a0AxKNe5qzu-02198-00513784-00514070 the deeper aquifers in those two aquifer a0AxKNe5qzu-02199-00514071-00514327 basins also can help reduce a0AxKNe5qzu-02200-00514328-00514495 a lot of the demands and then of course a0AxKNe5qzu-02201-00514496-00514718 we have recycled water a0AxKNe5qzu-02202-00514719-00514943 and conservation a0AxKNe5qzu-02203-00514943-00515062 which is a0AxKNe5qzu-02204-00515063-00515247 we consider a baseline in extending a0AxKNe5qzu-02205-00515247-00515487 conservation up into the upper river a0AxKNe5qzu-02206-00515488-00515695 is a key component so a0AxKNe5qzu-02207-00515696-00515775 as a0AxKNe5qzu-02208-00515776-00515983 as you might expect man is is the a0AxKNe5qzu-02209-00515984-00516143 practice for water management these days a0AxKNe5qzu-02210-00516143-00516383 it's a portfolio approach a0AxKNe5qzu-02211-00516384-00516631 to help make up for any um a0AxKNe5qzu-02212-00516632-00516743 you know a0AxKNe5qzu-02213-00516743-00516991 reductions in eel river diversions that a0AxKNe5qzu-02214-00516992-00517327 we encounter a0AxKNe5qzu-02215-00517328-00517614 so will any of this consider a0AxKNe5qzu-02216-00517615-00518007 impacts to the lower river a0AxKNe5qzu-02217-00518008-00518183 yeah well any of those measures are a0AxKNe5qzu-02218-00518184-00518399 going to help the whole river system uh a0AxKNe5qzu-02219-00518400-00518551 including the lower river that's for a0AxKNe5qzu-02220-00518552-00518670 sure a0AxKNe5qzu-02221-00518671-00518791 and you know a0AxKNe5qzu-02222-00518792-00518991 a more reliable upper river is a more a0AxKNe5qzu-02223-00518992-00519199 reliable lower river including lake a0AxKNe5qzu-02224-00519200-00519607 sonoma will benefit a0AxKNe5qzu-02225-00519608-00520591 thank you a0AxKNe5qzu-02226-00520592-00521447 i do not see any of the raised hands a0AxKNe5qzu-02227-00521447-00521759 you're muted true a0AxKNe5qzu-02228-00521760-00521895 sorry about that a0AxKNe5qzu-02229-00521896-00522110 that brings us to the last item agenda a0AxKNe5qzu-02230-00522112-00522247 10 a0AxKNe5qzu-02231-00522247-00522535 essentially any special items for the a0AxKNe5qzu-02232-00522535-00522870 january 10 tech meeting a0AxKNe5qzu-02233-00522871-00523047 i've already made a note here that we'll a0AxKNe5qzu-02234-00523047-00523351 have the jacobs a0AxKNe5qzu-02235-00523352-00523543 technical memorandum on the regional a0AxKNe5qzu-02236-00523543-00523814 water supply resiliency study anybody a0AxKNe5qzu-02237-00523815-00524039 from the attack have any other things a0AxKNe5qzu-02238-00524039-00524247 again above and beyond our reoccurring a0AxKNe5qzu-02239-00524247-00524607 items a0AxKNe5qzu-02240-00524608-00524862 i don't see any we'll go to a0AxKNe5qzu-02241-00524863-00525062 public comments if you wish to make a a0AxKNe5qzu-02242-00525063-00525231 public comment please raise your hand or a0AxKNe5qzu-02243-00525232-00525727 dial star nine a0AxKNe5qzu-02244-00525728-00525951 i do not see any race chance okay that a0AxKNe5qzu-02245-00525952-00526175 brings us to the end of the meeting 10 a0AxKNe5qzu-02246-00526176-00526511 28 p.m on monday thanks everybody and a0AxKNe5qzu-02247-00526512-00526783 have yourself a good week a0AxKNe5qzu-02248-00526784-00526903 bye a0AxKNe5qzu-02249-00526904-00528983 miss you colleen a0AxKNe5qzu-02250-00528984-00529192 you a11WZiRMwdI-00000-00000000-00000390 [Music] a11WZiRMwdI-00001-00000391-00000686 welcome to the daily samuel a11WZiRMwdI-00002-00000687-00001039 the us covenant teen case total is a11WZiRMwdI-00003-00001040-00001566 14 748 838 people testing positive a11WZiRMwdI-00004-00001567-00001918 with 282 231 deaths a11WZiRMwdI-00005-00001919-00002399 the world's total is 67 million 4543 a11WZiRMwdI-00006-00002400-00002510 cases a11WZiRMwdI-00007-00002511-00002767 in other news trump's lawyer rudy a11WZiRMwdI-00008-00002768-00002871 giuliani a11WZiRMwdI-00009-00002872-00003183 has tested positive for covid19 a11WZiRMwdI-00010-00003184-00003535 rudy giuliani has been representing a11WZiRMwdI-00011-00003536-00003903 trump in a lot of the election fraud a11WZiRMwdI-00012-00003904-00004086 trials although none of them have a11WZiRMwdI-00013-00004087-00004438 gone very well in each one of them a11WZiRMwdI-00014-00004439-00004711 results in some sort of embarrassing a11WZiRMwdI-00015-00004712-00004943 social media incident a11WZiRMwdI-00016-00004944-00005151 that's all for today please subscribe a11WZiRMwdI-00017-00005152-00005487 and come back tomorrow a24E7A_1j14-00000-00000300-00000708 foreign a24E7A_1j14-00001-00000709-00000965 greetings and nice to see you on first a24E7A_1j14-00002-00000966-00001079 semester a24E7A_1j14-00003-00001080-00001253 thank you so much for your invitation a24E7A_1j14-00004-00001254-00001439 pleasure to be on your show a24E7A_1j14-00005-00001440-00001630 I would like to start with some history a24E7A_1j14-00006-00001632-00002023 moments with The buhar Summit in 2008 a24E7A_1j14-00007-00002023-00002375 NATO did not provide their roadmap plan a24E7A_1j14-00008-00002376-00002717 to join NATO taking into account today's a24E7A_1j14-00009-00002718-00003034 war would you like to change the a24E7A_1j14-00010-00003035-00003370 decision of 2008 NATO Summit a24E7A_1j14-00011-00003371-00003599 well the the problem with that Summit a24E7A_1j14-00012-00003600-00003983 and that decision was that NATO promised a24E7A_1j14-00013-00003984-00004247 Ukraine something on which NATO could a24E7A_1j14-00014-00004248-00004367 not deliver a24E7A_1j14-00015-00004368-00004601 and I think we should not repeat that a24E7A_1j14-00016-00004602-00004852 mistake you might remember that there a24E7A_1j14-00017-00004853-00005038 was a big political fight between the a24E7A_1j14-00018-00005039-00005147 President Bush a24E7A_1j14-00019-00005148-00005375 of the United States and Chancellor a24E7A_1j14-00020-00005376-00005513 Merkel of Germany and the French a24E7A_1j14-00021-00005514-00005729 President Sarkozy of that time a24E7A_1j14-00022-00005730-00006059 so the compromise was a day and that was a24E7A_1j14-00023-00006060-00006238 Ukraine and Georgia will become NATO a24E7A_1j14-00024-00006239-00006575 members we knew then uh as we know now a24E7A_1j14-00025-00006576-00006875 that before you makes this kind of a24E7A_1j14-00026-00006876-00006983 decisions a24E7A_1j14-00027-00006984-00007223 you should show yourself that there is a24E7A_1j14-00028-00007223-00007427 political consensus within the north a24E7A_1j14-00029-00007428-00007601 authentic Alliance and that was not the a24E7A_1j14-00030-00007602-00007859 case in Bucharest and that was in other a24E7A_1j14-00031-00007859-00008170 words a false promise to Ukraine and and a24E7A_1j14-00032-00008172-00008507 I I think we should not NATO should not a24E7A_1j14-00033-00008508-00008837 repeat false promises uh as is relevant a24E7A_1j14-00034-00008838-00008981 by the way now a24E7A_1j14-00035-00008982-00009281 for the European union now Ukraine to my a24E7A_1j14-00036-00009282-00009514 great Joy by the way uh is is the a24E7A_1j14-00037-00009515-00009671 candidate member state of the European a24E7A_1j14-00038-00009672-00009869 Union so Bucharest should not be a24E7A_1j14-00039-00009870-00010055 repeated a24E7A_1j14-00040-00010056-00010396 also in your opinion if Ukraine became a a24E7A_1j14-00041-00010397-00010691 NATO member after that Summit in 2008 a24E7A_1j14-00042-00010692-00011092 would Russia still invade Ukraine a24E7A_1j14-00043-00011093-00011291 well I don't know that that there's a a24E7A_1j14-00044-00011292-00011531 that there's an iffy iffy question uh I a24E7A_1j14-00045-00011532-00011783 I do not know what I do know is that a24E7A_1j14-00046-00011784-00011927 Vladimir Putin a24E7A_1j14-00047-00011928-00012228 as I've met him in my active NATO years a24E7A_1j14-00048-00012229-00012545 several times has an obsession had an a24E7A_1j14-00049-00012546-00012857 obsession and has an obsession to a24E7A_1j14-00050-00012858-00013108 reinstate uh the the great Russian a24E7A_1j14-00051-00013109-00013565 Empire and Ukraine in his uh in his a24E7A_1j14-00052-00013566-00013811 objective thoughts is as you know part a24E7A_1j14-00053-00013812-00014116 of that great Russian Empire so I mean a24E7A_1j14-00054-00014118-00014471 that Obsession put in heart in 2008 and a24E7A_1j14-00055-00014472-00014729 he's still he still has it but what a24E7A_1j14-00056-00014730-00014951 exactly would have happened uh if the a24E7A_1j14-00057-00014952-00015257 decision in in Bucharest in 2008 would a24E7A_1j14-00058-00015258-00015491 be another one I don't know and and I a24E7A_1j14-00059-00015491-00015736 think it's not very useful to speculate a24E7A_1j14-00060-00015737-00015983 the only thing I should say I I should a24E7A_1j14-00061-00015984-00016186 say I should have a cause is that in a24E7A_1j14-00062-00016187-00016307 2008 a24E7A_1j14-00063-00016308-00016535 the internal political situation in a24E7A_1j14-00064-00016536-00016750 Ukraine was different different from the a24E7A_1j14-00065-00016751-00016936 from the actual and present situation a24E7A_1j14-00066-00016937-00017172 because then there was still a24E7A_1j14-00067-00017173-00017477 intra-ukrainian debate and discussion if a24E7A_1j14-00068-00017478-00017747 joining NATO was a good idea and now of a24E7A_1j14-00069-00017748-00017980 course almost all ukrainians for a24E7A_1j14-00070-00017981-00018215 understandable reasons in this horrible a24E7A_1j14-00071-00018216-00018521 war of aggression uh initiated by Putin a24E7A_1j14-00072-00018522-00018779 almost all ukrainians are very strongly a24E7A_1j14-00073-00018780-00019013 in much in favor of NATO membership a24E7A_1j14-00074-00019014-00019229 so you had a personal meeting with a24E7A_1j14-00075-00019230-00019475 Russian President Putin did you feel a24E7A_1j14-00076-00019476-00019841 that you speak with a crazy man a24E7A_1j14-00077-00019842-00020458 no uh not not at all I knew then and I a24E7A_1j14-00078-00020459-00020908 know now that that Vladimir Putin of a24E7A_1j14-00079-00020909-00021125 course is a war criminal let's start a24E7A_1j14-00080-00021126-00021479 there but is is a rational thinking a24E7A_1j14-00081-00021480-00021635 leader a24E7A_1j14-00082-00021636-00021989 uh so he's not a Maverick he's not an a24E7A_1j14-00083-00021990-00022277 unguided missile and that makes his a24E7A_1j14-00084-00022278-00022511 obsession dangerous because also a24E7A_1j14-00085-00022512-00022691 rational thinking people a24E7A_1j14-00086-00022692-00022943 can can revert to horrible things as a24E7A_1j14-00087-00022944-00023297 Putin has has proved but Putin made it a24E7A_1j14-00088-00023298-00023513 very clear in that meeting you refer to a24E7A_1j14-00089-00023514-00023939 uh in your question that of course uh as a24E7A_1j14-00090-00023940-00024203 I had expected that that NATO membership a24E7A_1j14-00091-00024204-00024533 of of Ukraine would be totally and a24E7A_1j14-00092-00024534-00024797 completely unacceptable to to him in in a24E7A_1j14-00093-00024798-00024964 that regard he hasn't changed his a24E7A_1j14-00094-00024965-00025222 opinion between 2008 and now a24E7A_1j14-00095-00025223-00025535 uh he is waging this this horrible war a24E7A_1j14-00096-00025536-00025667 of aggression a24E7A_1j14-00097-00025668-00025918 I also I would like to cover a no-fly a24E7A_1j14-00098-00025919-00026177 zone call of Ukraine Ukraine called NATO a24E7A_1j14-00099-00026177-00026464 to close our skies but NATO refused to a24E7A_1j14-00100-00026466-00026764 do it why did in your opinion why did a24E7A_1j14-00101-00026766-00026974 the biggest military Alliance of the a24E7A_1j14-00102-00026975-00027352 world fail to close our skies a24E7A_1j14-00103-00027354-00027670 well I I think let me start by saying a24E7A_1j14-00104-00027672-00028002 that that when you when you discuss uh a24E7A_1j14-00105-00028004-00028399 Ukrainian airspace it is my opinion a24E7A_1j14-00106-00028400-00028805 that we NATO the West Nations who are a24E7A_1j14-00107-00028806-00029057 capable and and willing and able a24E7A_1j14-00108-00029058-00029333 should not only provide Ukraine with the a24E7A_1j14-00109-00029333-00029717 Mig fighters from Central Europe dating a24E7A_1j14-00110-00029718-00029933 back to to earlier times a24E7A_1j14-00111-00029933-00030329 but I'm also in in favor but that needs a24E7A_1j14-00112-00030330-00030623 time and training of of the supply in a24E7A_1j14-00113-00030624-00030905 Ukraine with F-16 fighter aircraft a24E7A_1j14-00114-00030906-00031127 but the no-fly zone is a different thing a24E7A_1j14-00115-00031127-00031540 the reason uh that's that's uh that is a24E7A_1j14-00116-00031541-00031912 up till this moment uh not a possibility a24E7A_1j14-00117-00031913-00032074 probability a24E7A_1j14-00118-00032075-00032374 is that the NATO alliance as you know is a24E7A_1j14-00119-00032375-00032752 walking a fine line in in not directly a24E7A_1j14-00120-00032753-00033112 uh becoming involved in a war with the a24E7A_1j14-00121-00033113-00033418 Russian Federation a war with Putin uh a24E7A_1j14-00122-00033419-00033724 and a no-fly zone uh might lead to a a24E7A_1j14-00123-00033725-00034012 situation where NATO aircraft would have a24E7A_1j14-00124-00034013-00034337 to shut down Russian Fighters over and a24E7A_1j14-00125-00034338-00034618 in Ukrainian airspace and that for the a24E7A_1j14-00126-00034619-00034829 North Atlantic Alliance for NATO as you a24E7A_1j14-00127-00034830-00035045 know since the very beginning has been a a24E7A_1j14-00128-00035046-00035321 bridge too far and still is a bridge too a24E7A_1j14-00129-00035322-00035602 far so that's that's that's a fine line a24E7A_1j14-00130-00035603-00035879 uh I very much understand that for a24E7A_1j14-00131-00035880-00036071 Ukrainian public opinion a24E7A_1j14-00132-00036072-00036461 and and for Ukrainian morale it will be a24E7A_1j14-00133-00036462-00036695 a giant and tremendous boost a24E7A_1j14-00134-00036696-00036959 what what should happen now in this a24E7A_1j14-00135-00036960-00037255 Regard in my opinion is that we a24E7A_1j14-00136-00037256-00037607 participate further into more making a24E7A_1j14-00137-00037608-00037871 more uh making Ukrainian air defense a24E7A_1j14-00138-00037872-00038021 more sophisticated a24E7A_1j14-00139-00038022-00038405 uh and and going for uh also a newer a24E7A_1j14-00140-00038406-00038633 generation fighter aircraft but a no-fly a24E7A_1j14-00141-00038634-00038945 zone I I don't see it on the horizon and a24E7A_1j14-00142-00038946-00039130 over the horizon yet a24E7A_1j14-00143-00039131-00039407 but don't you agree that it it could be a24E7A_1j14-00144-00039408-00039724 a right decision from moral point of a24E7A_1j14-00145-00039725-00039862 view a24E7A_1j14-00146-00039863-00040229 well uh International politics is not a24E7A_1j14-00147-00040230-00040546 always rained and and and guided my a24E7A_1j14-00148-00040547-00040895 question of morality uh I I think the a24E7A_1j14-00149-00040896-00041159 the political Truth uh the hard truth a24E7A_1j14-00150-00041160-00041374 the difficult Truth for Ukraine at the a24E7A_1j14-00151-00041375-00041729 moment is that I do not see a political a24E7A_1j14-00152-00041730-00042095 consensus on initiating a no-fly zone a24E7A_1j14-00153-00042096-00042401 over over Ukraine uh and and I come back a24E7A_1j14-00154-00042402-00042623 to what I said earlier about NATO a24E7A_1j14-00155-00042624-00042923 membership uh let us refrain in the west a24E7A_1j14-00156-00042924-00043109 and in NATO a24E7A_1j14-00157-00043110-00043511 for making false promises to Ukraine uh a24E7A_1j14-00158-00043512-00043883 making a promise uh and and and then uh a24E7A_1j14-00159-00043884-00044190 not being able to deliver a24E7A_1j14-00160-00044191-00044537 uh is is very bad and would be very bad a24E7A_1j14-00161-00044538-00044729 for Ukraine it would be very bad for a24E7A_1j14-00162-00044730-00045023 Ukrainian morale and would be would be a a24E7A_1j14-00163-00045024-00045245 quote unquote victory for Vladimir Putin a24E7A_1j14-00164-00045246-00045424 and that that's the last thing I would a24E7A_1j14-00165-00045425-00045593 want and I would advise a24E7A_1j14-00166-00045594-00045895 let's cover also biggest international a24E7A_1j14-00167-00045896-00046246 incident of the war last year during a a24E7A_1j14-00168-00046247-00046540 missile attack on Ukraine two missiles a24E7A_1j14-00169-00046541-00046799 hit polish territory killing two a24E7A_1j14-00170-00046800-00047117 civilians don't you think that it was it a24E7A_1j14-00171-00047118-00047411 was a clear violation of Article 5 by a24E7A_1j14-00172-00047412-00047608 Russia a24E7A_1j14-00173-00047609-00047939 no I I don't think so at least according a24E7A_1j14-00174-00047940-00048155 to the information I have and the a24E7A_1j14-00175-00048156-00048323 information which was provided I a24E7A_1j14-00176-00048324-00048545 remember that night very very well a24E7A_1j14-00177-00048546-00048923 because there was also in my private a24E7A_1j14-00178-00048924-00049283 domain media frenzy uh when parts of a a24E7A_1j14-00179-00049284-00049661 missile landed on on polish on polish a24E7A_1j14-00180-00049662-00049783 territory a24E7A_1j14-00181-00049784-00050212 but and I know that that we have two a24E7A_1j14-00182-00050213-00050345 interpretations a24E7A_1j14-00183-00050346-00050657 uh finally in NATO won an American one a24E7A_1j14-00184-00050658-00050896 and the Ukrainian one but the a24E7A_1j14-00185-00050897-00051007 interpretation a24E7A_1j14-00186-00051008-00051569 I have I have heard uh uh and and taken a24E7A_1j14-00187-00051570-00051892 note of is that finally it proved to be a24E7A_1j14-00188-00051894-00052223 a Ukrainian missile uh fired in in a24E7A_1j14-00189-00052224-00052613 defense uh an anti-aircraft missile uh a24E7A_1j14-00190-00052614-00052949 fired in defense of of Ukraine and a24E7A_1j14-00191-00052950-00053104 Ukrainian airspace and Ukrainian a24E7A_1j14-00192-00053105-00053419 territory and not a Russian missile a24E7A_1j14-00193-00053420-00053842 uh again uh let me let me uh come up a24E7A_1j14-00194-00053844-00054076 with an if question if it would have a24E7A_1j14-00195-00054077-00054526 been a Russian missile uh it's a serious a24E7A_1j14-00196-00054527-00054725 serious questions would have been raised a24E7A_1j14-00197-00054726-00055049 in the in the North Atlantic Alliance uh a24E7A_1j14-00198-00055050-00055282 but again uh then the question of course a24E7A_1j14-00199-00055283-00055547 is uh will Article 4 a24E7A_1j14-00200-00055548-00055816 be triggered Article 4 then in that a24E7A_1j14-00201-00055817-00056063 scenario will be triggered by Poland uh a24E7A_1j14-00202-00056064-00056459 my my territory has been attacked so my a24E7A_1j14-00203-00056460-00056741 security is in danger and then Article 5 a24E7A_1j14-00204-00056741-00056938 might have followed but again that a24E7A_1j14-00205-00056939-00057113 wasn't the scenario and that wasn't the a24E7A_1j14-00206-00057114-00057329 case so the frenzy was over rather a24E7A_1j14-00207-00057329-00057491 quickly a24E7A_1j14-00208-00057491-00057773 also there has have been dozens of a24E7A_1j14-00209-00057774-00058073 incidents between NATO and Russia Russia a24E7A_1j14-00210-00058074-00058366 brought down U.S drone Russia tried to a24E7A_1j14-00211-00058367-00058721 bring down the UK spy plane also polish a24E7A_1j14-00212-00058722-00059009 media today reports that a fragments of a24E7A_1j14-00213-00059010-00059261 Russian missile missiles have been found a24E7A_1j14-00214-00059262-00059585 in Poland why does NATO self-deter a24E7A_1j14-00215-00059586-00059837 itself in retaliation to Russian actions a24E7A_1j14-00216-00059838-00060113 don't you think that such strategy only a24E7A_1j14-00217-00060114-00060538 weakens NATO and unties Putin's hands a24E7A_1j14-00218-00060539-00060880 oh I I I don't think so uh what I do a24E7A_1j14-00219-00060882-00061126 think and what I do know by the way is a24E7A_1j14-00220-00061127-00061282 that the North Atlantic Alliance the a24E7A_1j14-00221-00061283-00061523 NATO alliance is fully ready a24E7A_1j14-00222-00061524-00061997 to defend uh every uh Square centimeter a24E7A_1j14-00223-00061998-00062326 or inch of its of its territory that is a24E7A_1j14-00224-00062327-00062704 crystal clear and that in itself is a a24E7A_1j14-00225-00062705-00063016 deficient deterrent towards Russia look a24E7A_1j14-00226-00063017-00063353 at NATO's defense posture look at NATO's a24E7A_1j14-00227-00063354-00063559 enhanced forward presence a24E7A_1j14-00228-00063560-00063916 uh I mean we are in a different NATO we a24E7A_1j14-00229-00063917-00064054 are in a different Europe a24E7A_1j14-00230-00064055-00064361 NATO fully realizes and I do fully a24E7A_1j14-00231-00064362-00064600 realize as a European as a Dutchman as a a24E7A_1j14-00232-00064601-00064703 European a24E7A_1j14-00233-00064704-00064937 that's that's you ukrainians are a24E7A_1j14-00234-00064938-00065188 fighting our war that you are fighting a24E7A_1j14-00235-00065189-00065459 about the survival of the Europe we know a24E7A_1j14-00236-00065460-00065687 that you are a European country that it a24E7A_1j14-00237-00065688-00065944 is our war and that it is Our obligation a24E7A_1j14-00238-00065945-00066238 to support you wherever and whenever we a24E7A_1j14-00239-00066239-00066593 can but I'm convinced that the North a24E7A_1j14-00240-00066594-00066832 Atlantic Alliance uh and the U.S a24E7A_1j14-00241-00066833-00067037 leadership President Biden has proved a24E7A_1j14-00242-00067038-00067349 proven to all of us that he is a leader a24E7A_1j14-00243-00067350-00067606 that he has been able to afford to forge a24E7A_1j14-00244-00067607-00067931 a very strong Coalition that's NATO is a24E7A_1j14-00245-00067932-00068315 is is is ready and capable of answering a24E7A_1j14-00246-00068316-00068729 any threat to its to its territory uh a24E7A_1j14-00247-00068730-00069047 and and that's that Vladimir Putin a24E7A_1j14-00248-00069048-00069359 should be in no doubt uh that whenever a24E7A_1j14-00249-00069360-00069671 he would cross a line NATO would NATO a24E7A_1j14-00250-00069672-00069899 would act and NATO would react a24E7A_1j14-00251-00069900-00070073 I would like to thank you for the a24E7A_1j14-00252-00070074-00070241 support of your garment and Western a24E7A_1j14-00253-00070242-00070469 Alliance of Ukraine but let's move a24E7A_1j14-00254-00070470-00070697 forward forward with the upcoming NATO a24E7A_1j14-00255-00070698-00070967 Summit in Real News International media a24E7A_1j14-00256-00070968-00071261 reports that the US and Germany don't a24E7A_1j14-00257-00071262-00071506 want to make any decisions on Ukraine's a24E7A_1j14-00258-00071507-00071776 membership in NATO what is the reason of a24E7A_1j14-00259-00071777-00072035 such position a24E7A_1j14-00260-00072036-00072281 well I I come back I come back to what I a24E7A_1j14-00261-00072282-00072575 said earlier and that is for me a very a24E7A_1j14-00262-00072576-00072779 important principle in in international a24E7A_1j14-00263-00072780-00073367 affairs uh let let us let us a24E7A_1j14-00264-00073368-00073685 discuss the villages Summit when there a24E7A_1j14-00265-00073686-00073949 is language coming out of the Vilnius a24E7A_1j14-00266-00073950-00074243 Summit in the in the communique on a24E7A_1j14-00267-00074244-00074531 Ukraine and and NATO which I could very a24E7A_1j14-00268-00074532-00074755 well imagine by the way a24E7A_1j14-00269-00074756-00075113 uh it should be something on which the a24E7A_1j14-00270-00075114-00075491 alliance can deliver because I repeat I a24E7A_1j14-00271-00075492-00075659 do not want to see and I wouldn't want a24E7A_1j14-00272-00075660-00075911 to see a repetition of the period a24E7A_1j14-00273-00075912-00076288 between Bucharest 2008 and 2023 a24E7A_1j14-00274-00076289-00076679 a long a long period uh where we had a a24E7A_1j14-00275-00076680-00076967 situation where Ukraine was in limbo a24E7A_1j14-00276-00076968-00077206 where NATO made a decision Ukraine will a24E7A_1j14-00277-00077207-00077405 become a NATO member we didn't say under a24E7A_1j14-00278-00077406-00077591 what conditions we shouldn't we did we a24E7A_1j14-00279-00077592-00077741 did not say when a24E7A_1j14-00280-00077742-00078005 so in the run-up to the evilius summit a24E7A_1j14-00281-00078006-00078388 my my call on all NATO allies would be a24E7A_1j14-00282-00078389-00078682 prevents such a situation from happening a24E7A_1j14-00283-00078683-00078917 again I can tell you it was not my a24E7A_1j14-00284-00078918-00079097 finest Hour as NATO Secretary General a24E7A_1j14-00285-00079098-00079306 what what happened in in in in in a24E7A_1j14-00286-00079307-00079750 Bucharest in 2008 so uh my my caller my a24E7A_1j14-00287-00079751-00080117 plea to our leaders in in Vilnius is but a24E7A_1j14-00288-00080118-00080471 if you want to communicate Ukraine slash a24E7A_1j14-00289-00080472-00080743 NATO language in in Vilnius a24E7A_1j14-00290-00080744-00081203 uh do it in such a way that you know it a24E7A_1j14-00291-00081204-00081487 is absolutely consensual language a24E7A_1j14-00292-00081488-00081797 uh that that is of of of great a24E7A_1j14-00293-00081798-00081988 importance the same goes for the a24E7A_1j14-00294-00081989-00082109 European Union a24E7A_1j14-00295-00082110-00082391 Ukraine is a member State a candidate a24E7A_1j14-00296-00082392-00082626 member of the of the European Union a24E7A_1j14-00297-00082627-00082973 uh let's let's take that process very a24E7A_1j14-00298-00082974-00083099 seriously a24E7A_1j14-00299-00083100-00083399 uh and and ukrainians know and I know a24E7A_1j14-00300-00083400-00083644 that also that European Union accession a24E7A_1j14-00301-00083645-00083938 process will take lots of time a24E7A_1j14-00302-00083939-00084155 uh but let's be honest with ourselves a24E7A_1j14-00303-00084156-00084400 and and and and let's be honest with a24E7A_1j14-00304-00084401-00084665 Ukraine for Ukraine's sake and for our a24E7A_1j14-00305-00084666-00084785 own sake a24E7A_1j14-00306-00084786-00085097 our Western leaders ready to provide us a24E7A_1j14-00307-00085098-00085306 with sort of uh strong security a24E7A_1j14-00308-00085307-00085637 guarantees or roadmap plan to join NATO a24E7A_1j14-00309-00085638-00085979 at the upcoming NATO Summit in Wellness a24E7A_1j14-00310-00085980-00086285 but what I think should happen uh and a24E7A_1j14-00311-00086286-00086500 I'm I'm a member of a group which has a24E7A_1j14-00312-00086501-00086723 prepared a Ukraine strategy in the alpha a24E7A_1j14-00313-00086724-00086938 group under the able leadership of a24E7A_1j14-00314-00086939-00087185 Professor Julian Lindley French well a24E7A_1j14-00315-00087186-00087347 known internationally a24E7A_1j14-00316-00087348-00087706 and we make we make a plea at least not a24E7A_1j14-00317-00087707-00087965 specifically in the Vilnius area but a a24E7A_1j14-00318-00087966-00088138 plea and a declaration a24E7A_1j14-00319-00088139-00088517 issued by NATO allies by European union a24E7A_1j14-00320-00088518-00088955 members and by like-minded Nations a24E7A_1j14-00321-00088956-00089225 uh who consider themselves part of the a24E7A_1j14-00322-00089226-00089656 West uh quote unquote a declaration uh a24E7A_1j14-00323-00089657-00089981 showing our full solidarity uh with a24E7A_1j14-00324-00089982-00090388 Ukraine and with the Ukrainian people a a24E7A_1j14-00325-00090389-00090635 sort of collective commitment uh to a24E7A_1j14-00326-00090636-00091050 Ukraine and that's a declaration a24E7A_1j14-00327-00091051-00091294 could also contain a24E7A_1j14-00328-00091295-00091625 a security guarantees the collective a24E7A_1j14-00329-00091626-00091847 commitment for security guarantees for a24E7A_1j14-00330-00091848-00092255 for Ukraine I realize that is not a a a24E7A_1j14-00331-00092256-00092512 direct guarantee or road to Nato a24E7A_1j14-00332-00092513-00092765 membership or to membership action plan a24E7A_1j14-00333-00092766-00092968 for for Ukraine a24E7A_1j14-00334-00092969-00093209 but I do think uh that that it is a24E7A_1j14-00335-00093210-00093497 important as I also think I should add a24E7A_1j14-00336-00093498-00093900 it is important in the political domain a24E7A_1j14-00337-00093901-00094355 uh that uh when the G7 the seven most a24E7A_1j14-00338-00094356-00094631 important economies will meet on the a24E7A_1j14-00339-00094632-00094859 Japanese chairmanship a24E7A_1j14-00340-00094860-00095350 the G7 contact group should be uh should a24E7A_1j14-00341-00095351-00095723 issue an invitation to India and China a24E7A_1j14-00342-00095724-00095968 to join because I think when we discuss a24E7A_1j14-00343-00095969-00096244 Ukraine in this horrible War the a24E7A_1j14-00344-00096245-00096497 pressure on China to leave its position a24E7A_1j14-00345-00096498-00096755 from solidarity with Russia and Vladimir a24E7A_1j14-00346-00096756-00097079 Putin should be a very important element a24E7A_1j14-00347-00097080-00097361 on our on our agenda because I have the a24E7A_1j14-00348-00097362-00097555 strong impression a24E7A_1j14-00349-00097556-00097841 the Chinese president is not happy at a24E7A_1j14-00350-00097842-00098123 all uh with the war in Ukraine with a24E7A_1j14-00351-00098124-00098315 Putin's accents although he doesn't show a24E7A_1j14-00352-00098316-00098638 it publicly uh but I think I think we a24E7A_1j14-00353-00098639-00098849 should we should try to convince and if a24E7A_1j14-00354-00098850-00099041 necessary to pressure a24E7A_1j14-00355-00099042-00099335 the president Xi Jinping to cooperate a24E7A_1j14-00356-00099336-00099731 and to help us in in in bringing this a24E7A_1j14-00357-00099732-00100103 war to an end uh of course I I add a24E7A_1j14-00358-00100104-00100426 hastily uh that it is it is up to a24E7A_1j14-00359-00100427-00100631 Ukraine you ukrainians to president a24E7A_1j14-00360-00100632-00100811 zielinski to the Ukrainian government a24E7A_1j14-00361-00100812-00101111 and the Ukrainian people to define the a24E7A_1j14-00362-00101112-00101350 conditions on which this war could or a24E7A_1j14-00363-00101351-00101447 should end a24E7A_1j14-00364-00101448-00101687 but don't you think that only Ukraine's a24E7A_1j14-00365-00101688-00101987 membership in NATO could be a key to and a24E7A_1j14-00366-00101988-00102244 the war could Putin still continue his a24E7A_1j14-00367-00102245-00102647 aggression if Ukraine is member of NATO a24E7A_1j14-00368-00102648-00102989 well I I I must agree with you uh in in a24E7A_1j14-00369-00102990-00103301 in in your element of skepticism uh in a24E7A_1j14-00370-00103302-00103439 in your question a24E7A_1j14-00371-00103440-00103721 because if I look back at 1994 The a24E7A_1j14-00372-00103722-00103960 Budapest memorandum where Ukraine Got a24E7A_1j14-00373-00103961-00104225 security guarantees uh when when it's a24E7A_1j14-00374-00104226-00104416 abandoned its nuclear weapons a24E7A_1j14-00375-00104417-00104668 uh that that Budapest memorandum wasn't a24E7A_1j14-00376-00104669-00104945 worth the paper it was written on uh but a24E7A_1j14-00377-00104946-00105160 again uh what what I mentioned in our a24E7A_1j14-00378-00105161-00105515 plea of this elephant group uh of a a a24E7A_1j14-00379-00105516-00105925 joint NATO EU plus declaration a24E7A_1j14-00380-00105926-00106223 uh potentially or possibly containing a24E7A_1j14-00381-00106224-00106528 security guarantees is a step in the in a24E7A_1j14-00382-00106529-00106799 the right direction I say again I do a24E7A_1j14-00383-00106800-00107147 realize very much very well realize I a24E7A_1j14-00384-00107148-00107543 should say uh the the ambition by a24E7A_1j14-00385-00107544-00107831 Ukraine the prime ambition to become a a24E7A_1j14-00386-00107832-00107993 NATO member a24E7A_1j14-00387-00107994-00108245 talking about NATO membership on our a24E7A_1j14-00388-00108246-00108490 side of the fence in in the in the North a24E7A_1j14-00389-00108491-00108808 Atlantic Alliance when we realize and we a24E7A_1j14-00390-00108809-00109025 know that there is no consensus is a24E7A_1j14-00391-00109026-00109151 dangerous a24E7A_1j14-00392-00109152-00109421 because that will give Vladimir Vladimir a24E7A_1j14-00393-00109422-00109690 which put in the wrong signal and that a24E7A_1j14-00394-00109691-00109907 again I repeat for the third time in a24E7A_1j14-00395-00109908-00110266 this interview this it is important to a24E7A_1j14-00396-00110267-00110483 discuss this in the NATO alliance and a24E7A_1j14-00397-00110483-00110795 not to make false promises again as we a24E7A_1j14-00398-00110796-00110969 did in Bucharest a24E7A_1j14-00399-00110970-00111215 you mentioned a nuclear weapons of a24E7A_1j14-00400-00111216-00111490 Ukraine in your opinion would it be fair a24E7A_1j14-00401-00111491-00111871 to after the end of the war to support a24E7A_1j14-00402-00111872-00112163 sort of discussions in Ukraine to a24E7A_1j14-00403-00112164-00112378 possible restoration of our nuclear a24E7A_1j14-00404-00112379-00112613 status a24E7A_1j14-00405-00112614-00113045 well I I would hope and think that that a24E7A_1j14-00406-00113046-00113333 if it would come to the form of security a24E7A_1j14-00407-00113333-00113584 guarantees for Ukraine I was talking a24E7A_1j14-00408-00113585-00113675 about a24E7A_1j14-00409-00113676-00113999 it is it is absolutely unnecessary for a24E7A_1j14-00410-00114000-00114293 Ukraine apart from the possibility but a24E7A_1j14-00411-00114294-00114593 unnecessary for Ukraine to develop its a24E7A_1j14-00412-00114594-00114875 own nuclear Arsenal what I what I would a24E7A_1j14-00413-00114876-00115402 add to this answer is that that whenever a24E7A_1j14-00414-00115403-00115721 this war might end I say again on a24E7A_1j14-00415-00115722-00115890 Ukrainian terms a24E7A_1j14-00416-00115891-00116293 uh there is an urgent need for a new a24E7A_1j14-00417-00116294-00116584 European security architecture a24E7A_1j14-00418-00116585-00116897 uh if that's possible with the Russians a24E7A_1j14-00419-00116898-00117245 and and as as long as Putin has the a24E7A_1j14-00420-00117246-00117508 political Reigns in his hand in Russia I a24E7A_1j14-00421-00117509-00117683 think that's very difficult a24E7A_1j14-00422-00117683-00118019 but there might be another leader there a24E7A_1j14-00423-00118020-00118240 might be another Russia I don't see it a24E7A_1j14-00424-00118241-00118534 Over the Horizon by the way but but that a24E7A_1j14-00425-00118535-00118781 new security architecture in Europe is a24E7A_1j14-00426-00118782-00118963 necessary a24E7A_1j14-00427-00118964-00119231 Putin has completely neglected and a24E7A_1j14-00428-00119232-00119447 violated the Helsinki agreements the a24E7A_1j14-00429-00119448-00119723 Paris agreements which we had in Europe a24E7A_1j14-00430-00119724-00120010 that's why I said it's our war it's a24E7A_1j14-00431-00120011-00120173 about the future of Europe it's about a24E7A_1j14-00432-00120174-00120358 the future of European security a24E7A_1j14-00433-00120359-00120658 architecture of which Ukraine is fought a24E7A_1j14-00434-00120659-00120863 and and should in my opinion be part and a24E7A_1j14-00435-00120864-00120965 parcel a24E7A_1j14-00436-00120966-00121319 not Apostle so that that is what is what a24E7A_1j14-00437-00121320-00121619 is on the agenda but I would not see and a24E7A_1j14-00438-00121620-00121828 I would not hope that it would be a24E7A_1j14-00439-00121829-00122099 necessary uh in in a situation where a24E7A_1j14-00440-00122100-00122284 nuclear proliferation is is already a24E7A_1j14-00441-00122285-00122627 rather dangerous that Ukraine would find a24E7A_1j14-00442-00122628-00122860 itself in a position that it it will a24E7A_1j14-00443-00122861-00123131 come to to a decision to have its own a24E7A_1j14-00444-00123132-00123419 nuclear weapons I I think that would not a24E7A_1j14-00445-00123420-00123701 fit into the security architecture but I a24E7A_1j14-00446-00123702-00123913 say immediately and I realize a24E7A_1j14-00447-00123914-00124247 that I can only say this on the basis of a24E7A_1j14-00448-00124248-00124493 a structure and a regime where Ukraine a24E7A_1j14-00449-00124494-00124793 has unclatched security guarantees a24E7A_1j14-00450-00124794-00125152 and is there a place in you security a24E7A_1j14-00451-00125153-00125465 architecture for Ukraine's membership in a24E7A_1j14-00452-00125466-00125681 nato in the future a24E7A_1j14-00453-00125682-00125951 of course there is a place for Ukraine a24E7A_1j14-00454-00125952-00126119 membership in nato in the future a24E7A_1j14-00455-00126120-00126473 definitely uh that's what I I thought in a24E7A_1j14-00456-00126474-00126695 2008 that's what I think now a24E7A_1j14-00457-00126696-00127102 uh my butts with the capital B is don't a24E7A_1j14-00458-00127103-00127373 start idle debates and discussions if a24E7A_1j14-00459-00127374-00127565 you know beforehand that you cannot a24E7A_1j14-00460-00127566-00127678 deliver a24E7A_1j14-00461-00127679-00127865 and you were rightly asking me and a24E7A_1j14-00462-00127866-00128110 questioning me about about the positions a24E7A_1j14-00463-00128111-00128351 of important NATO allies like Germany a24E7A_1j14-00464-00128352-00128483 like France a24E7A_1j14-00465-00128483-00128765 but I must add I do not hear President a24E7A_1j14-00466-00128766-00128986 Biden and the American Administration a24E7A_1j14-00467-00128988-00129340 now about NATO membership so it it is a a24E7A_1j14-00468-00129341-00129569 very complicated and very very difficult a24E7A_1j14-00469-00129570-00129916 debate we should have that debate and a24E7A_1j14-00470-00129917-00130108 and I say yes to your question of course a24E7A_1j14-00471-00130109-00130307 in the longer term definitely we should a24E7A_1j14-00472-00130308-00130727 have a debate again present making a a24E7A_1j14-00473-00130728-00130990 prevents making false promises a24E7A_1j14-00474-00130991-00131261 also Russia continues to terrorize us a24E7A_1j14-00475-00131262-00131489 with missile strikes in your opinion a24E7A_1j14-00476-00131490-00131735 would it be fair to provide us with such a24E7A_1j14-00477-00131736-00131993 capabilities which will allow us to a24E7A_1j14-00478-00131994-00132263 retaliate and Strike Back even on a24E7A_1j14-00479-00132264-00132437 Russian soil a24E7A_1j14-00480-00132438-00132719 well here again first of all I I think a24E7A_1j14-00481-00132720-00133019 that we should do everything we can a24E7A_1j14-00482-00133020-00133378 uh and as a Dutchman uh I I can say that a24E7A_1j14-00483-00133379-00133631 Dutch Patriot missiles are quite rightly a24E7A_1j14-00484-00133632-00133961 helping you to defend to defend Ukraine a24E7A_1j14-00485-00133962-00134171 uh I I think what is what is now a24E7A_1j14-00486-00134172-00134561 important uh is is air superiority uh a24E7A_1j14-00487-00134562-00134825 and and sophisticated elephants a24E7A_1j14-00488-00134826-00135083 that's why I made my plea and I repeat a24E7A_1j14-00489-00135084-00135335 for the for the f-16s but again training a24E7A_1j14-00490-00135336-00135557 a pilot on the f-16s will take months of a24E7A_1j14-00491-00135558-00135707 time I mean you do that you don't do a24E7A_1j14-00492-00135708-00136069 that overnight and I hope we are already a24E7A_1j14-00493-00136070-00136390 practicing training a Ukrainian fighter a24E7A_1j14-00494-00136391-00136625 pilots on the on the F-16 I do not know a24E7A_1j14-00495-00136626-00136919 if that's true but I hope it's true uh a24E7A_1j14-00496-00136920-00137231 and and as far as as your question is is a24E7A_1j14-00497-00137232-00137657 concerned uh here again uh in the a24E7A_1j14-00498-00137658-00138011 alliance there is this this as I repeat a24E7A_1j14-00499-00138012-00138575 fine line uh between between uh NATO uh a24E7A_1j14-00500-00138576-00138893 becoming in in a direct War situation a24E7A_1j14-00501-00138894-00139235 with the Russian Federation uh and a24E7A_1j14-00502-00139236-00139493 prevent such a situation uh which which a24E7A_1j14-00503-00139494-00139673 might might increase the danger a24E7A_1j14-00504-00139674-00139925 including the danger for for Ukraine a24E7A_1j14-00505-00139926-00140171 thank you and to my last question will a24E7A_1j14-00506-00140172-00140395 be regarding the Western aircraft a24E7A_1j14-00507-00140396-00140699 Netherlands consider providing us this a24E7A_1j14-00508-00140700-00141071 F-16 could Amsterdam become a first a24E7A_1j14-00509-00141072-00141271 Western the first Western Capital a24E7A_1j14-00510-00141272-00141599 providing us with F-16 a24E7A_1j14-00511-00141600-00141833 I do I do not know but I I know very a24E7A_1j14-00512-00141834-00142025 well and I know her very well that the a24E7A_1j14-00513-00142026-00142337 Dutch defense minister Mrs olinggren has a24E7A_1j14-00514-00142338-00142666 clearly said that there are no taboos a24E7A_1j14-00515-00142667-00142990 and and and as far as my opinion is a24E7A_1j14-00516-00142991-00143237 concerned I think there should be no a24E7A_1j14-00517-00143238-00143602 taboos for providing Ukraine with F-16 a24E7A_1j14-00518-00143603-00143873 fighter aircraft but again it will take a24E7A_1j14-00519-00143874-00144071 a lot of time in training the in a24E7A_1j14-00520-00144072-00144209 training the pilots a24E7A_1j14-00521-00144210-00144461 uh and I hope that other allies NATO a24E7A_1j14-00522-00144462-00144695 allies because there are lots of f-16s a24E7A_1j14-00523-00144696-00145001 on the market might follow the Dutch a24E7A_1j14-00524-00145002-00145151 defense minister but how the defense a24E7A_1j14-00525-00145152-00145337 ministers have also been rather clear a24E7A_1j14-00526-00145338-00145673 about that to provide overtime Ukraine a24E7A_1j14-00527-00145674-00145961 with F-16 fighter aircraft let me make a24E7A_1j14-00528-00145962-00146266 one one final remark sir if you allow me a24E7A_1j14-00529-00146267-00146489 and that is about about younger a24E7A_1j14-00530-00146490-00146801 Generations in Ukraine and and in our a24E7A_1j14-00531-00146802-00146963 part of of Europe a24E7A_1j14-00532-00146964-00147343 I think uh restoration of full Ukrainian a24E7A_1j14-00533-00147344-00147739 sovereignty and territory the a24E7A_1j14-00534-00147740-00147959 2013-2014 borders a24E7A_1j14-00535-00147960-00148240 uh will will depend uh and you have a24E7A_1j14-00536-00148241-00148427 questioned me about this and quite a24E7A_1j14-00537-00148428-00148697 rightly about the resilience of our a24E7A_1j14-00538-00148698-00148835 democracies a24E7A_1j14-00539-00148836-00149014 I mean now we're having this interview a24E7A_1j14-00540-00149015-00149327 but I I should insist that we should a24E7A_1j14-00541-00149328-00149554 have this interview also in the same a24E7A_1j14-00542-00149555-00149759 with the same terminology a24E7A_1j14-00543-00149760-00150028 if this might might lead to a protracted a24E7A_1j14-00544-00150029-00150275 War what I'm saying is that also in the a24E7A_1j14-00545-00150276-00150425 Netherlands and elsewhere a24E7A_1j14-00546-00150426-00150640 younger generation should be the a24E7A_1j14-00547-00150641-00150797 Guardians of the resilience of our a24E7A_1j14-00548-00150798-00151066 democracies and that the solidarity with a24E7A_1j14-00549-00151067-00151283 Ukraine which is now extremely strong a24E7A_1j14-00550-00151284-00151601 and quite rightly so will remain and a24E7A_1j14-00551-00151602-00151861 will remain strong uh and and not be a24E7A_1j14-00552-00151862-00152135 overtaken by other priorities in our a24E7A_1j14-00553-00152136-00152345 national or International debates that a24E7A_1j14-00554-00152346-00152687 is my strong plea because again there is a24E7A_1j14-00555-00152688-00153035 more peace than war in the DNA of of the a24E7A_1j14-00556-00153036-00153257 younger generation in in Europe because a24E7A_1j14-00557-00153258-00153454 they thought and I thought by the way a24E7A_1j14-00558-00153455-00153725 that freedom came at no price a24E7A_1j14-00559-00153726-00153947 suffering of your people the raping of a24E7A_1j14-00560-00153948-00154135 your women the killing of your soldiers a24E7A_1j14-00561-00154136-00154511 proves that it is not enough to say our a24E7A_1j14-00562-00154512-00154859 DNA in Europe is peace we have to to a24E7A_1j14-00563-00154860-00155171 help you wherever we can in in your War a24E7A_1j14-00564-00155172-00155471 which is also our war that is my strong a24E7A_1j14-00565-00155472-00155813 plea uh almost emotional plea to to a24E7A_1j14-00566-00155814-00156071 myself to our our part of Europe but a24E7A_1j14-00567-00156072-00156304 also to Ukrainian younger Generations a24E7A_1j14-00568-00156305-00156533 thank you Professor Safar for your time a24E7A_1j14-00569-00156534-00156785 and for participation in the interview a24E7A_1j14-00570-00156786-00157201 and glory to Ukraine a great pleasure a24E7A_1j14-00571-00157202-00157526 thank you a3Jf7Amup6o-00000-00000354-00000592 thank you crystal for joining us today a3Jf7Amup6o-00001-00000593-00000799 and teaching us about the magical and a3Jf7Amup6o-00002-00000800-00001102 mundane properties of sage I hope you'll a3Jf7Amup6o-00003-00001103-00001290 join us again on a future episode of the a3Jf7Amup6o-00004-00001291-00001614 Friends of groups whoa alright it's time a3Jf7Amup6o-00005-00001616-00002431 for positive proclamations fuzzy a3Jf7Amup6o-00006-00002432-00003033 proclamations can you think of reasons a3Jf7Amup6o-00007-00003034-00003361 why you like yourself can you I'll but a3Jf7Amup6o-00008-00003361-00003579 you can if you try real hard some of you a3Jf7Amup6o-00009-00003580-00003820 don't have to think hard at all we hear a3Jf7Amup6o-00010-00003821-00004249 messages all day long many of them say a3Jf7Amup6o-00011-00004250-00004618 we're not enough I'm here to tell you a3Jf7Amup6o-00012-00004619-00004859 forget all that stuff and here's how a3Jf7Amup6o-00013-00004860-00005275 positive proclamations save with me I a3Jf7Amup6o-00014-00005276-00005554 like me cuz i'm smart i like my great a3Jf7Amup6o-00015-00005555-00005890 big heart I like me cuz I'm good I like a3Jf7Amup6o-00016-00005891-00006195 me cuz I should I'm super I'm terrific I a3Jf7Amup6o-00017-00006196-00006553 rock rock rock I'm amazing yes that's me a3Jf7Amup6o-00018-00006554-00007063 I'm amazing as can be yay me let's see a3Jf7Amup6o-00019-00007064-00007387 it again just cuz we can yep you have to a3Jf7Amup6o-00020-00007388-00007839 be a superhero or a ferry to be good you a3Jf7Amup6o-00021-00007840-00008031 should remind yourself just how awesome a3Jf7Amup6o-00022-00008032-00008467 you are yes yes you should let's do it I a3Jf7Amup6o-00023-00008468-00008728 like me cuz i'm smart i like my great a3Jf7Amup6o-00024-00008729-00008983 big heart I like because I'm doing I a3Jf7Amup6o-00025-00008984-00009253 like me cuz I should I'm awesome I'm a3Jf7Amup6o-00026-00009254-00009588 amazing I rock rock rock I'm super I'm a3Jf7Amup6o-00027-00009589-00009885 terrific I rock rock rock I'm amazing a3Jf7Amup6o-00028-00009886-00010206 yes that's me I'm amazing as can be yay a3Jf7Amup6o-00029-00010207-00010549 me rock on with your fabulous self a3Jf7Amup6o-00030-00010550-00010950 you're amazing a6v2euOAJag-00000-00000039-00000206 should i sell my rental property in the a6v2euOAJag-00001-00000208-00000311 bay area a6v2euOAJag-00002-00000312-00000455 i've been getting that question a lot a6v2euOAJag-00003-00000456-00000678 recently and i'm going to break it down a6v2euOAJag-00004-00000679-00001663 today so stick around a6v2euOAJag-00005-00001664-00001887 hi i'm annie baker i'm a realtor here in a6v2euOAJag-00006-00001888-00002007 the bay area a6v2euOAJag-00007-00002007-00002263 and i do work with investors quite often a6v2euOAJag-00008-00002264-00002431 and lately i've been getting a lot of a6v2euOAJag-00009-00002432-00002542 questions about a6v2euOAJag-00010-00002543-00002726 should i sell my rental property in the a6v2euOAJag-00011-00002727-00002918 bay area and there is no a6v2euOAJag-00012-00002919-00003142 one answer that is right for everybody a6v2euOAJag-00013-00003143-00003351 people so don't think i have some a6v2euOAJag-00014-00003352-00003583 magic information that's not the case a6v2euOAJag-00015-00003584-00003751 and be sure to stick around to the end a6v2euOAJag-00016-00003752-00003886 of the video i'll give you some real a6v2euOAJag-00017-00003887-00003983 stats a6v2euOAJag-00018-00003984-00004175 so that it can help you make a decision a6v2euOAJag-00019-00004176-00004391 if right now is a good time to sell your a6v2euOAJag-00020-00004392-00004495 rental property a6v2euOAJag-00021-00004496-00004647 everybody's situation really is a6v2euOAJag-00022-00004648-00004879 different the one thing i do know most a6v2euOAJag-00023-00004880-00005086 of my investors when they purchased here a6v2euOAJag-00024-00005087-00005399 they purchased for appreciation not a6v2euOAJag-00025-00005400-00005535 passive income a6v2euOAJag-00026-00005536-00005695 so that's kind of something you have to a6v2euOAJag-00027-00005696-00005870 think about what your situation is a6v2euOAJag-00028-00005871-00006118 now moving forward compared to what it a6v2euOAJag-00029-00006119-00006215 was and i'm a6v2euOAJag-00030-00006216-00006359 going with you've owned this property a6v2euOAJag-00031-00006360-00006534 for at least five years a6v2euOAJag-00032-00006536-00006727 rental prices have increased over that a6v2euOAJag-00033-00006728-00006927 time so maybe you are a6v2euOAJag-00034-00006928-00007078 maybe even making a couple hundred a6v2euOAJag-00035-00007079-00007287 dollars a month after a6v2euOAJag-00036-00007288-00007591 property taxes and a mortgage and it's a6v2euOAJag-00037-00007592-00007751 been a good return for you a6v2euOAJag-00038-00007752-00008055 as of the fall 2020 we are seeing a6v2euOAJag-00039-00008056-00008367 some decreases now in rental prices so a6v2euOAJag-00040-00008368-00008527 how is that going to affect you a6v2euOAJag-00041-00008528-00008759 and your specific situation are you in a6v2euOAJag-00042-00008760-00008878 this for the long haul a6v2euOAJag-00043-00008879-00009151 do you live in the area and you can a6v2euOAJag-00044-00009152-00009335 oversee it pretty easily a6v2euOAJag-00045-00009336-00009503 even if you have a property manager it's a6v2euOAJag-00046-00009504-00009678 always nice to be able to drive by and a6v2euOAJag-00047-00009679-00009895 see the condition of your property a6v2euOAJag-00048-00009896-00010110 so maybe it just makes sense hold on a6v2euOAJag-00049-00010111-00010287 even with a little bit of the decrease a6v2euOAJag-00050-00010288-00010414 in rents a6v2euOAJag-00051-00010415-00010591 you know depending on what your tenant a6v2euOAJag-00052-00010592-00010799 situation is like maybe it still makes a6v2euOAJag-00053-00010800-00010942 sense to just hold on to it a6v2euOAJag-00054-00010943-00011238 great maybe it doesn't maybe you're a6v2euOAJag-00055-00011239-00011423 thinking of leaving the area a6v2euOAJag-00056-00011424-00011695 maybe you're thinking geez i could go to a6v2euOAJag-00057-00011696-00011895 another market and maybe even buy two a6v2euOAJag-00058-00011896-00011983 properties a6v2euOAJag-00059-00011984-00012199 even if you're not in passive income a6v2euOAJag-00060-00012200-00012406 from those properties if you go to a6v2euOAJag-00061-00012407-00012695 a growing area that housing is a6v2euOAJag-00062-00012696-00012807 appreciating a6v2euOAJag-00063-00012808-00013015 somewhat close to the appreciation rate a6v2euOAJag-00064-00013016-00013135 here in the bay area a6v2euOAJag-00065-00013136-00013366 maybe that makes more sense and one of a6v2euOAJag-00066-00013368-00013486 the other things i always tell my a6v2euOAJag-00067-00013487-00013630 investors to consider a6v2euOAJag-00068-00013631-00013943 are what are the maintenance costs a6v2euOAJag-00069-00013944-00014158 coming up say in the next year do you a6v2euOAJag-00070-00014159-00014399 have to redo plumbing electrical a6v2euOAJag-00071-00014400-00014694 uh the roof do you have to do any kind a6v2euOAJag-00072-00014695-00014766 of a6v2euOAJag-00073-00014768-00015063 pavement work for the driveway patios a6v2euOAJag-00074-00015063-00015279 sidewalks a lot of sidewalks are lifting a6v2euOAJag-00075-00015280-00015350 around a6v2euOAJag-00076-00015351-00015566 the bay area they're coming after the a6v2euOAJag-00077-00015568-00015719 homeowners to repair that a6v2euOAJag-00078-00015719-00015927 or they'll do it at their cost which is a6v2euOAJag-00079-00015928-00016086 more expensive a6v2euOAJag-00080-00016087-00016294 what about the water heater if there's a6v2euOAJag-00081-00016295-00016511 an air conditioner all the mechanicals a6v2euOAJag-00082-00016512-00016735 so those are things costs if you have a6v2euOAJag-00083-00016736-00016943 some significant costs coming up a6v2euOAJag-00084-00016944-00017079 maybe that's another reason that it a6v2euOAJag-00085-00017080-00017263 makes sense to sell a6v2euOAJag-00086-00017264-00017558 housing is doing amazing right now in a6v2euOAJag-00087-00017559-00017822 good areas good school districts a6v2euOAJag-00088-00017823-00018039 still we're getting multiple offers and a6v2euOAJag-00089-00018040-00018263 whatnot so it could be a good time for a6v2euOAJag-00090-00018264-00018350 you to sell a6v2euOAJag-00091-00018351-00018583 and go buy in other markets one of the a6v2euOAJag-00092-00018584-00018735 things i learned years ago for my a6v2euOAJag-00093-00018736-00018967 business coach was a confused mind a6v2euOAJag-00094-00018968-00019207 does nothing and it's true so you might a6v2euOAJag-00095-00019208-00019358 just be there thinking you know a6v2euOAJag-00096-00019359-00019519 i've heard about people investing out of a6v2euOAJag-00097-00019520-00019711 california but i don't know where to a6v2euOAJag-00098-00019712-00019911 begin i'm going to tell you right now a6v2euOAJag-00099-00019912-00020158 i've got realtors all over the country a6v2euOAJag-00100-00020159-00020367 that can help you they've worked with a6v2euOAJag-00101-00020368-00020494 investors so i'm going to tell you about a6v2euOAJag-00102-00020495-00020591 a few of the top a6v2euOAJag-00103-00020592-00020767 markets people are predicting for the a6v2euOAJag-00104-00020768-00020935 best areas to buy real estate a6v2euOAJag-00105-00020936-00021263 coming up into 2021 so i looked up some a6v2euOAJag-00106-00021264-00021399 stats for a6v2euOAJag-00107-00021400-00021614 best markets for residential and a6v2euOAJag-00108-00021615-00021711 commercial a6v2euOAJag-00109-00021712-00021903 and i did that because if commercial is a6v2euOAJag-00110-00021904-00022022 going to be doing well that means a6v2euOAJag-00111-00022023-00022135 there's jobs a6v2euOAJag-00112-00022136-00022263 so people are going to have to move to a6v2euOAJag-00113-00022264-00022486 those areas so the top 10 a6v2euOAJag-00114-00022487-00022863 of both reports there's two cities a6v2euOAJag-00115-00022864-00023071 that are in the top 10 for both of them a6v2euOAJag-00116-00023072-00023247 so i'm going to focus on them first a6v2euOAJag-00117-00023248-00023558 we have austin texas and dallas texas a6v2euOAJag-00118-00023559-00023799 austin texas has a median home price of a6v2euOAJag-00119-00023800-00024014 430 thousand dollars a6v2euOAJag-00120-00024015-00024350 a projected 7.7 appreciation rate next a6v2euOAJag-00121-00024351-00024399 year a6v2euOAJag-00122-00024400-00024614 dallas texas has a median home price of a6v2euOAJag-00123-00024615-00024799 240 000 a6v2euOAJag-00124-00024800-00025142 with an appreciation rate of 6.1 percent a6v2euOAJag-00125-00025143-00025294 predicted for next year a6v2euOAJag-00126-00025295-00025511 and in san jose right now the median a6v2euOAJag-00127-00025512-00025734 home price is about 1.2 million a6v2euOAJag-00128-00025735-00025918 with a projected appreciation rate of a6v2euOAJag-00129-00025919-00026055 9.9 a6v2euOAJag-00130-00026056-00026318 for comparison sunnyvale median home a6v2euOAJag-00131-00026319-00026535 price is 1.7 a6v2euOAJag-00132-00026536-00026870 with a projection of a 9.7 a6v2euOAJag-00133-00026872-00027070 appreciation rate for next year so i a6v2euOAJag-00134-00027072-00027158 just wanted to kind of give you a6v2euOAJag-00135-00027160-00027343 comparison those are two main cities so a6v2euOAJag-00136-00027344-00027567 you're comparing over a million dollars a6v2euOAJag-00137-00027568-00027783 to essentially half that you could go a6v2euOAJag-00138-00027783-00027911 buy two if not a6v2euOAJag-00139-00027912-00028135 three properties in some of the in these a6v2euOAJag-00140-00028136-00028255 other markets a6v2euOAJag-00141-00028256-00028462 with a pretty darn good appreciation a6v2euOAJag-00142-00028463-00028646 rate maybe that makes sense for you a6v2euOAJag-00143-00028647-00028839 might not only see some appreciation but a6v2euOAJag-00144-00028839-00028999 you actually might see some passive a6v2euOAJag-00145-00029000-00029190 income maybe that's important to you a6v2euOAJag-00146-00029191-00029311 i'm just going to go over some of the a6v2euOAJag-00147-00029312-00029462 other top cities that people are a6v2euOAJag-00148-00029463-00029655 projecting will be great for 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ausA6W-3CRE-00168-00041043-00041246 [Music] ausA6W-3CRE-00169-00041247-00041551 um samantha i see ausA6W-3CRE-00170-00041552-00042702 here let me see if i can ausA6W-3CRE-00171-00042703-00043087 remember can you can you use microphone ausA6W-3CRE-00172-00043088-00043407 hello hi hi sorry ausA6W-3CRE-00173-00043408-00043735 um so coming from switzerland how does ausA6W-3CRE-00174-00043736-00043830 it work ausA6W-3CRE-00175-00043831-00043999 because i'm not sure i have this ausA6W-3CRE-00176-00044000-00044135 european ausA6W-3CRE-00177-00044136-00044655 health care i just have a swiss ausA6W-3CRE-00178-00044656-00044918 you have a swiss health care insurance ausA6W-3CRE-00179-00044919-00045007 yes ausA6W-3CRE-00180-00045008-00045223 yeah so normally what you have is like a ausA6W-3CRE-00181-00045224-00045343 car that you can ausA6W-3CRE-00182-00045344-00045911 use if you show here at the um ausA6W-3CRE-00183-00045912-00046087 at the hospitals or with the family 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you ausA6W-3CRE-00199-00049696-00049951 if you uh like for standard things you ausA6W-3CRE-00200-00049952-00050183 first go here to a family doctor ausA6W-3CRE-00201-00050184-00050583 and that family doctor ausA6W-3CRE-00202-00050584-00050983 costs about 28 ausA6W-3CRE-00203-00050984-00051158 euros for a visit which is normally ausA6W-3CRE-00204-00051159-00051287 covered by ausA6W-3CRE-00205-00051288-00051646 the insurance however i'm not sure ausA6W-3CRE-00206-00051647-00051838 if it's also covered by your insurance ausA6W-3CRE-00207-00051839-00051950 because it's not ausA6W-3CRE-00208-00051951-00052175 something standard in other countries to ausA6W-3CRE-00209-00052176-00052326 have a family doctor ausA6W-3CRE-00210-00052327-00052632 it's here for closer to have so ausA6W-3CRE-00211-00052633-00052775 [Music] ausA6W-3CRE-00212-00052776-00053111 and normally a ausA6W-3CRE-00213-00053112-00053359 family doctor will direct to a ausA6W-3CRE-00214-00053360-00053423 specialist 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ausA6W-3CRE-00230-00056591-00056926 some support from you yeah ausA6W-3CRE-00231-00056927-00057142 you can also we can if you send us an ausA6W-3CRE-00232-00057144-00057287 email we can send you the ausA6W-3CRE-00233-00057288-00057630 the details from like for example um ausA6W-3CRE-00234-00057632-00057799 and then you can make your own ausA6W-3CRE-00235-00057800-00057975 instruments through aun i think that's ausA6W-3CRE-00236-00057976-00058063 the most easiest ausA6W-3CRE-00237-00058064-00058430 way to do that okay private insurance ausA6W-3CRE-00238-00058432-00058654 which is also for liability as well ausA6W-3CRE-00239-00058655-00058982 and you can expand it and you can cancel ausA6W-3CRE-00240-00058983-00059087 by month so that's ausA6W-3CRE-00241-00059088-00059230 that's really nice because normally if ausA6W-3CRE-00242-00059232-00059423 you have like a basic health insurance ausA6W-3CRE-00243-00059424-00059575 it's only for a year and you can't ausA6W-3CRE-00244-00059576-00059894 transfer it during the year ausA6W-3CRE-00245-00059895-00060087 so yeah just send us otherwise we can ausA6W-3CRE-00246-00060088-00060287 give you all the details about that ausA6W-3CRE-00247-00060288-00060638 okay so aon right yeah yeah okay ausA6W-3CRE-00248-00060639-00061682 all right thanks bye ausA6W-3CRE-00249-00061683-00062175 bye ausA6W-3CRE-00250-00062176-00063082 ernest you may ask your question ausA6W-3CRE-00251-00063083-00063526 if ausA6W-3CRE-00252-00063527-00063679 and if you have a question perhaps ausA6W-3CRE-00253-00063679-00063871 you're gonna use the microphone ausA6W-3CRE-00254-00063872-00064215 you choose a new okay can you hear me ausA6W-3CRE-00255-00064216-00064463 yeah i can hear you okay i just wanted ausA6W-3CRE-00256-00064464-00064542 to find out ausA6W-3CRE-00257-00064544-00064871 so what's the what's the um stance of ausA6W-3CRE-00258-00064872-00065111 the university nice university still ausA6W-3CRE-00259-00065112-00065263 insisting that it's only going to be ausA6W-3CRE-00260-00065264-00065550 online um like courses online ausA6W-3CRE-00261-00065551-00065894 delivery of courses or is there going to ausA6W-3CRE-00262-00065895-00065999 be any ausA6W-3CRE-00263-00066000-00066391 change if the course will be online or ausA6W-3CRE-00264-00066392-00066671 not ausA6W-3CRE-00265-00066672-00066919 based on what the recent developments ausA6W-3CRE-00266-00066920-00067079 the easing of the ausA6W-3CRE-00267-00067080-00067319 right restrictions so for the september ausA6W-3CRE-00268-00067320-00067487 people people are starting in september ausA6W-3CRE-00269-00067488-00067671 is there going to be ausA6W-3CRE-00270-00067672-00067871 any blended um approach to the courses ausA6W-3CRE-00271-00067872-00067982 that will be offered or ausA6W-3CRE-00272-00067983-00068319 everything is online well i think what ausA6W-3CRE-00273-00068320-00068375 you should do ausA6W-3CRE-00274-00068376-00068591 is to contact directly with the um i'm ausA6W-3CRE-00275-00068592-00068703 not sure what program is ausA6W-3CRE-00276-00068704-00068935 with your with your studying but if it's ausA6W-3CRE-00277-00068936-00069159 not if it's ausA6W-3CRE-00278-00069160-00069535 sorry mba yes so that's uh that's an ausA6W-3CRE-00279-00069536-00069647 online program then ausA6W-3CRE-00280-00069648-00069806 contact the school about that and they ausA6W-3CRE-00281-00069807-00069943 can give you all the information about ausA6W-3CRE-00282-00069944-00070087 how they're going to offer the ausA6W-3CRE-00283-00070088-00070359 classes and how it will look like i ausA6W-3CRE-00284-00070360-00070519 don't have the ausA6W-3CRE-00285-00070520-00070767 input and how your classes will be ausA6W-3CRE-00286-00070768-00070975 organized ausA6W-3CRE-00287-00070976-00071350 oh so basically so that is all because ausA6W-3CRE-00288-00071351-00071535 most of the courses offering coming 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i ausA6W-3CRE-00319-00077800-00077967 know because i've lived in europe before ausA6W-3CRE-00320-00077968-00078062 so i know they do ausA6W-3CRE-00321-00078063-00078199 i know the difference between browsing ausA6W-3CRE-00322-00078200-00078423 their browsing here so that's my problem ausA6W-3CRE-00323-00078424-00079894 it's not the it's ausA6W-3CRE-00324-00079895-00080103 of browser anything like that and if ausA6W-3CRE-00325-00080104-00080231 then it's up to you to ausA6W-3CRE-00326-00080232-00080438 decide whether you want to continue ausA6W-3CRE-00327-00080439-00080647 online first september or ausA6W-3CRE-00328-00080648-00081047 maybe defer your admission to next year ausA6W-3CRE-00329-00081048-00081894 by applying again of course ausA6W-3CRE-00330-00081895-00082199 so can i call the um international ausA6W-3CRE-00331-00082200-00082567 um school i can call that because i ausA6W-3CRE-00332-00082568-00084082 tried to call him earlier but ausA6W-3CRE-00333-00084083-00084238 um ausA6W-3CRE-00334-00084239-00084399 the email we can give you the contact ausA6W-3CRE-00335-00084400-00084543 users but normally you can also find it ausA6W-3CRE-00336-00084544-00084847 on the ausA6W-3CRE-00337-00084848-00085182 suction edu with the program you should ausA6W-3CRE-00338-00085183-00085487 find the ausA6W-3CRE-00339-00085488-00085799 okay okay oh i'll try and call them ausA6W-3CRE-00340-00085800-00086135 and find out ausA6W-3CRE-00341-00086136-00087287 okay thank you ausA6W-3CRE-00342-00087288-00087447 now there's still questions about the ausA6W-3CRE-00343-00087448-00087647 insurance or ausA6W-3CRE-00344-00087648-00088111 otherwise uh ausA6W-3CRE-00345-00088112-00088423 the next topic i don't see any hands ausA6W-3CRE-00346-00088424-00088606 raised not sure if anyone else ausA6W-3CRE-00347-00088607-00088799 sees any questions about that in the ausA6W-3CRE-00348-00088800-00089175 chat ausA6W-3CRE-00349-00089176-00089638 i will continue with the next topic ausA6W-3CRE-00350-00089639-00090015 yeah so and then we can answer the ausA6W-3CRE-00351-00090016-00090318 the questions the in the chat and uh if ausA6W-3CRE-00352-00090319-00090526 anyone is still wants to raise their ausA6W-3CRE-00353-00090527-00090711 hands this is still available so ausA6W-3CRE-00354-00090712-00090991 please do so all right um regarding ausA6W-3CRE-00355-00090992-00091294 housing the next topic um ausA6W-3CRE-00356-00091295-00091526 you see a quick overview of okay how is ausA6W-3CRE-00357-00091527-00091703 it going to be ausA6W-3CRE-00358-00091704-00091943 for regarding uh the housing as from ausA6W-3CRE-00359-00091944-00092159 september ausA6W-3CRE-00360-00092160-00092415 if you're outside the eu and starting an ausA6W-3CRE-00361-00092416-00092726 online program for september 2020 ausA6W-3CRE-00362-00092727-00092943 in a more in general it can be a ausA6W-3CRE-00363-00092944-00093103 specific case but in general ausA6W-3CRE-00364-00093104-00093882 there will be no housing available at ausA6W-3CRE-00365-00093883-00094023 success ausA6W-3CRE-00366-00094024-00094471 if you're outside the eu schengen ausA6W-3CRE-00367-00094472-00094599 starting the on-site program for ausA6W-3CRE-00368-00094600-00094831 september 2020 and you did pay the ausA6W-3CRE-00369-00094832-00094959 package fee in time ausA6W-3CRE-00370-00094960-00095238 including the housing housing fee you ausA6W-3CRE-00371-00095239-00095271 are ausA6W-3CRE-00372-00095272-00095431 and you are also allowed to travel to ausA6W-3CRE-00373-00095432-00095599 the netherlands then there is of course ausA6W-3CRE-00374-00095600-00095750 a room you serve for you ausA6W-3CRE-00375-00095751-00095950 and you will also receive confirmations ausA6W-3CRE-00376-00095951-00096150 about this and you are ausA6W-3CRE-00377-00096151-00096462 very welcome to yeah to visit us and ausA6W-3CRE-00378-00096463-00096759 we will make sure the room is available ausA6W-3CRE-00379-00096760-00096855 for you ausA6W-3CRE-00380-00096856-00097135 in the mid of august and the exact dates ausA6W-3CRE-00381-00097136-00097199 uh ausA6W-3CRE-00382-00097200-00097406 that this will be also being formed to ausA6W-3CRE-00383-00097407-00097638 you by email ausA6W-3CRE-00384-00097639-00097879 if you are inside the eu's or your ausA6W-3CRE-00385-00097880-00097999 european student ausA6W-3CRE-00386-00098000-00098318 starting the on-site program um you ausA6W-3CRE-00387-00098319-00098559 needed to make a reservation and the ausA6W-3CRE-00388-00098560-00098647 deadline ausA6W-3CRE-00389-00098648-00098991 was the 7th of july um ausA6W-3CRE-00390-00098992-00099182 some of you might already have received ausA6W-3CRE-00391-00099183-00099311 a confirmation about ausA6W-3CRE-00392-00099312-00099623 the reservation request so each and ausA6W-3CRE-00393-00099624-00099879 every reservation that you have made ausA6W-3CRE-00394-00099880-00100343 will be honored if you are inside ausA6W-3CRE-00395-00100344-00100503 the european union and starting an ausA6W-3CRE-00396-00100504-00100799 online program from september 2020 ausA6W-3CRE-00397-00100800-00101126 you are still very welcome to also enjoy ausA6W-3CRE-00398-00101127-00101167 and ausA6W-3CRE-00399-00101168-00101447 get the housing from saxion but we can ausA6W-3CRE-00400-00101448-00101591 also understand if you want to cancel ausA6W-3CRE-00401-00101592-00101718 your reservation ausA6W-3CRE-00402-00101719-00101959 and due to the fact that you wish to ausA6W-3CRE-00403-00101960-00102031 follow the ausA6W-3CRE-00404-00102032-00102415 online program from your home country or ausA6W-3CRE-00405-00102416-00102534 that you cannot travel to the ausA6W-3CRE-00406-00102535-00102678 netherlands for example ausA6W-3CRE-00407-00102679-00103023 um because also some ausA6W-3CRE-00408-00103024-00103223 countries within the european union are ausA6W-3CRE-00409-00103224-00103463 not allowed to travel to the netherlands ausA6W-3CRE-00410-00103464-00103630 then make sure you go to our frequently ausA6W-3CRE-00411-00103631-00103799 asked questions ausA6W-3CRE-00412-00103800-00104015 because we can arrange a full refund for ausA6W-3CRE-00413-00104016-00104199 you and the steps are also mentioned ausA6W-3CRE-00414-00104200-00104471 in these frequently asked questions and ausA6W-3CRE-00415-00104472-00104751 also make sure that you just notify us ausA6W-3CRE-00416-00104752-00105078 to your cancellation via our email ausA6W-3CRE-00417-00105079-00105199 address at the international ausA6W-3CRE-00418-00105200-00105599 office at suction.net so this is ausA6W-3CRE-00419-00105600-00105815 in general what we are going to arrange ausA6W-3CRE-00420-00105816-00105975 for you guys ausA6W-3CRE-00421-00105976-00106247 and detailed and specific other ausA6W-3CRE-00422-00106248-00106358 questions can also be ausA6W-3CRE-00423-00106359-00106710 asked of course via email ausA6W-3CRE-00424-00106711-00106919 but you will also receive more and ausA6W-3CRE-00425-00106920-00107047 in-depth information ausA6W-3CRE-00426-00107048-00107351 through email like a confirmation from ausA6W-3CRE-00427-00107352-00107702 our housing department ausA6W-3CRE-00428-00107703-00108015 are there any questions for example ausA6W-3CRE-00429-00108016-00108327 due to okay is my housing arranged ausA6W-3CRE-00430-00108328-00108615 or anything else that we can make make ausA6W-3CRE-00431-00108616-00108654 sure ausA6W-3CRE-00432-00108655-00110551 gets being answered at this moment ausA6W-3CRE-00433-00110552-00110686 i'm just checking the chat at this ausA6W-3CRE-00434-00110688-00110871 moment ausA6W-3CRE-00435-00110872-00111078 if i can see any questions related to ausA6W-3CRE-00436-00111079-00111639 housing ausA6W-3CRE-00437-00111640-00112623 melissa yes it is ausA6W-3CRE-00438-00112624-00113223 hi hello good morning ausA6W-3CRE-00439-00113224-00113543 i wanted to ask you i'm from oman i went ausA6W-3CRE-00440-00113544-00113710 back to oman when the pandemic ausA6W-3CRE-00441-00113711-00114010 started and you know it's ausA6W-3CRE-00442-00114011-00114127 [Music] ausA6W-3CRE-00443-00114128-00114486 my contract at section and the housing ausA6W-3CRE-00444-00114488-00114758 and the heights will end at the ausA6W-3CRE-00445-00114759-00114883 beginning of ausA6W-3CRE-00446-00114883-00115207 august so i contacted the international ausA6W-3CRE-00447-00115208-00115543 office to extend my rental for two ausA6W-3CRE-00448-00115544-00115727 they told me i can't extend my rent for ausA6W-3CRE-00449-00115728-00115847 two weeks ausA6W-3CRE-00450-00115848-00116143 uh how can i apply for it because they ausA6W-3CRE-00451-00116144-00116231 haven't ausA6W-3CRE-00452-00116232-00116534 replied that to me ausA6W-3CRE-00453-00116535-00116847 um okay so you did make a prolongation ausA6W-3CRE-00454-00116848-00117143 uh request so to extend your housing ausA6W-3CRE-00455-00117144-00117390 contract ausA6W-3CRE-00456-00117391-00117583 i don't know what do you mean but i i ausA6W-3CRE-00457-00117583-00117775 did email them ausA6W-3CRE-00458-00117776-00118207 and told them but no one contacted me ausA6W-3CRE-00459-00118208-00118710 and told me what to do ausA6W-3CRE-00460-00118711-00119086 okay well there is ausA6W-3CRE-00461-00119088-00119366 there was the opportunity to prolong ausA6W-3CRE-00462-00119367-00119495 your housing ausA6W-3CRE-00463-00119496-00119823 um but i think it's wiser because you ausA6W-3CRE-00464-00119824-00119886 are ausA6W-3CRE-00465-00119888-00120151 a current student of sakshion and not an ausA6W-3CRE-00466-00120152-00120319 upcoming and new student ausA6W-3CRE-00467-00120320-00120758 to email us this question again so ausA6W-3CRE-00468-00120759-00120919 we can check this with this housing ausA6W-3CRE-00469-00120920-00121086 department because we know that our ausA6W-3CRE-00470-00121088-00121263 housing department is currently working ausA6W-3CRE-00471-00121264-00121334 hard ausA6W-3CRE-00472-00121335-00121663 on finding solutions for extending ausA6W-3CRE-00473-00121664-00121958 housing contracts but this information i ausA6W-3CRE-00474-00121959-00122143 cannot give you at this moment ausA6W-3CRE-00475-00122144-00122414 by by mind and by head so we need to do ausA6W-3CRE-00476-00122415-00122631 check this ausA6W-3CRE-00477-00122632-00122854 completely send the email to ausA6W-3CRE-00478-00122855-00122958 international office ausA6W-3CRE-00479-00122959-00123319 at suction.net okay i will do that thank ausA6W-3CRE-00480-00123320-00125190 you thank you ausA6W-3CRE-00481-00125191-00125471 all right we do have some time left ausA6W-3CRE-00482-00125472-00125766 maybe it's a good idea to ausA6W-3CRE-00483-00125767-00126102 change the topic at this moment ausA6W-3CRE-00484-00126103-00126390 to our last topic and then the questions ausA6W-3CRE-00485-00126391-00126534 that you still have ausA6W-3CRE-00486-00126535-00126814 just drop them in the chat or raise your ausA6W-3CRE-00487-00126815-00126990 hand ausA6W-3CRE-00488-00126991-00127483 and i will give the microphone to my ausA6W-3CRE-00489-00127483-00127886 colleague ausA6W-3CRE-00490-00127888-00128231 so hello everyone my name is uh mihai ausA6W-3CRE-00491-00128232-00128454 i'm also working for the international ausA6W-3CRE-00492-00128455-00128590 office but i al ausA6W-3CRE-00493-00128591-00128934 i also just graduated from saxton ausA6W-3CRE-00494-00128935-00129254 so if you have any questions ausA6W-3CRE-00495-00129255-00129558 related to your student life also ausA6W-3CRE-00496-00129559-00129771 to your budget or how you deal with the ausA6W-3CRE-00497-00129772-00129886 transportation ausA6W-3CRE-00498-00129888-00130254 or free time activities or student jobs ausA6W-3CRE-00499-00130255-00130478 please uh let me know ausA6W-3CRE-00500-00130479-00130783 uh send a message in the in the chat ausA6W-3CRE-00501-00130783-00130990 or you can also raise your hand and we ausA6W-3CRE-00502-00130991-00132263 can have a conversation about that ausA6W-3CRE-00503-00132264-00132590 i'm uh currently also ausA6W-3CRE-00504-00132591-00133087 okay far it's ausA6W-3CRE-00505-00133088-00133313 make present ausA6W-3CRE-00506-00133314-00133599 [Music] ausA6W-3CRE-00507-00133600-00133831 hello for it's do you hear me uh hello ausA6W-3CRE-00508-00133832-00133943 can you hear me ausA6W-3CRE-00509-00133944-00134263 yeah uh yeah so uh ausA6W-3CRE-00510-00134264-00134599 i'm from non new zealand and i i took ausA6W-3CRE-00511-00134600-00134902 a short db program that only one year ausA6W-3CRE-00512-00134903-00135143 so so the question is is that possible ausA6W-3CRE-00513-00135144-00135407 that i have a part-time job ausA6W-3CRE-00514-00135408-00135854 for only one year in in netherlands ausA6W-3CRE-00515-00135855-00136127 so you are not a non-eu student right ausA6W-3CRE-00516-00136128-00136159 yeah ausA6W-3CRE-00517-00136160-00136631 yeah yes so it it will be possible to ausA6W-3CRE-00518-00136632-00136966 to have a part-time job as a non-eu ausA6W-3CRE-00519-00136967-00137063 student but ausA6W-3CRE-00520-00137064-00137311 you only are allowed to have a limited ausA6W-3CRE-00521-00137312-00137511 number of hours ausA6W-3CRE-00522-00137512-00137831 i think you can work a maximum of ausA6W-3CRE-00523-00137832-00138254 16 hours per month if i'm correct ausA6W-3CRE-00524-00138255-00138695 oh i see it's 16 hours a week ausA6W-3CRE-00525-00138696-00138943 a week sorry yeah oh it could happen a ausA6W-3CRE-00526-00138944-00139023 residence plan ausA6W-3CRE-00527-00139024-00139183 for that and you need to change your ausA6W-3CRE-00528-00139184-00139335 insurance ausA6W-3CRE-00529-00139336-00139639 as well and so the money that you earn ausA6W-3CRE-00530-00139640-00139783 you can you can consider the extra ausA6W-3CRE-00531-00139784-00140119 pocket money but it will not be ausA6W-3CRE-00532-00140120-00140263 that much unfortunately as in my ausA6W-3CRE-00533-00140264-00140566 european student ausA6W-3CRE-00534-00140567-00142183 all right thank you you're welcome ausA6W-3CRE-00535-00142184-00142654 hello ausA6W-3CRE-00536-00142655-00143375 um what kind of ausA6W-3CRE-00537-00143376-00143590 sorry i couldn't hear your question the ausA6W-3CRE-00538-00143591-00144223 connection was really bad ausA6W-3CRE-00539-00144224-00144495 what kind of student jobs are there in ausA6W-3CRE-00540-00144496-00144683 the netherlands for ausA6W-3CRE-00541-00144684-00145054 non-um european students ausA6W-3CRE-00542-00145055-00145366 well uh for example i had ausA6W-3CRE-00543-00145367-00145702 um colleagues from vietnam ausA6W-3CRE-00544-00145703-00146007 that for example in my class that used ausA6W-3CRE-00545-00146008-00146095 to work in ausA6W-3CRE-00546-00146096-00146463 uh restaurants in uh in the city where ausA6W-3CRE-00547-00146464-00146631 we were living ausA6W-3CRE-00548-00146632-00146999 uh but there are all kind of jobs i also ausA6W-3CRE-00549-00147000-00147166 had colleagues who used to work in ausA6W-3CRE-00550-00147167-00147319 hotels ausA6W-3CRE-00551-00147320-00147726 then some other ausA6W-3CRE-00552-00147727-00147878 colleagues also worked for the ausA6W-3CRE-00553-00147879-00148126 university so that there are ausA6W-3CRE-00554-00148127-00148943 there are different options ausA6W-3CRE-00555-00148944-00149711 i don't know if you were able to ausA6W-3CRE-00556-00149712-00151183 yes thank you you're welcome ausA6W-3CRE-00557-00151184-00151575 hello ernest what is your question ausA6W-3CRE-00558-00151576-00151895 yeah um sorry uh ausA6W-3CRE-00559-00151896-00152278 okay i just wanted to ask ausA6W-3CRE-00560-00152279-00152535 what is the dutch government's um what ausA6W-3CRE-00561-00152536-00152687 is it that we're saying concerning ausA6W-3CRE-00562-00152688-00152814 international students ausA6W-3CRE-00563-00152815-00152975 for example nigeria obviously i'm not ausA6W-3CRE-00564-00152976-00153126 part of the list that they released ausA6W-3CRE-00565-00153127-00153311 so what is the stance because i'm ausA6W-3CRE-00566-00153312-00153471 confused about ausA6W-3CRE-00567-00153472-00153607 because i obviously have friends in ausA6W-3CRE-00568-00153608-00153726 other universities i'm hearing different ausA6W-3CRE-00569-00153727-00153839 things i just want to know ausA6W-3CRE-00570-00153840-00154183 what is the dutch government's um ausA6W-3CRE-00571-00154184-00154287 what do they say concerning ausA6W-3CRE-00572-00154288-00154431 international students generally are ausA6W-3CRE-00573-00154432-00154495 they saying ausA6W-3CRE-00574-00154496-00154799 they can't come are they saying the ausA6W-3CRE-00575-00154800-00155023 the decision is is left to universities ausA6W-3CRE-00576-00155024-00155135 or what is the ausA6W-3CRE-00577-00155136-00155583 stance so if i if i am if i understand ausA6W-3CRE-00578-00155584-00155839 correctly you are asking what is the ausA6W-3CRE-00579-00155840-00156071 position of the the dutch government ausA6W-3CRE-00580-00156072-00156295 towards integration ausA6W-3CRE-00581-00156296-00156687 yes yes um to to be ausA6W-3CRE-00582-00156688-00157047 honest uh i i think this is also like ausA6W-3CRE-00583-00157048-00157278 based on international regulation and ausA6W-3CRE-00584-00157279-00157359 also how ausA6W-3CRE-00585-00157360-00157663 how the corolla virus is evolving ausA6W-3CRE-00586-00157664-00157966 you know so i i cannot give you the ausA6W-3CRE-00587-00157967-00158151 right ausA6W-3CRE-00588-00158152-00158478 to this question but um ausA6W-3CRE-00589-00158479-00158790 i mean as as long as the corona ausA6W-3CRE-00590-00158791-00158871 situation ausA6W-3CRE-00591-00158872-00159190 is still uncertain then ausA6W-3CRE-00592-00159191-00159566 also the student situation is uncertain ausA6W-3CRE-00593-00159567-00159783 so i i can i cannot give you the the ausA6W-3CRE-00594-00159784-00159966 right answer for that ausA6W-3CRE-00595-00159967-00160199 so so what so what i understand is that ausA6W-3CRE-00596-00160200-00160375 the dutch government is saying ausA6W-3CRE-00597-00160376-00160559 currently as long as since the current ausA6W-3CRE-00598-00160560-00160726 situation is still not sure ausA6W-3CRE-00599-00160727-00160887 all international students are not ausA6W-3CRE-00600-00160888-00161023 coming that's what that's what you're ausA6W-3CRE-00601-00161024-00161175 saying ausA6W-3CRE-00602-00161176-00161471 well there are some countries from which ausA6W-3CRE-00603-00161472-00161526 you can ausA6W-3CRE-00604-00161527-00161911 actually come to the netherlands but uh ausA6W-3CRE-00605-00161912-00162199 you you can you can check that on the ausA6W-3CRE-00606-00162200-00162359 website ausA6W-3CRE-00607-00162360-00162671 netherlands and die ausA6W-3CRE-00608-00162672-00162999 okay what i'm asking because um ausA6W-3CRE-00609-00163000-00163135 apart from the email you guys you guys ausA6W-3CRE-00610-00163136-00163335 sent me a mail asking about okay ausA6W-3CRE-00611-00163336-00163502 applications and housing that was ausA6W-3CRE-00612-00163503-00163671 initialized one of my instant email ausA6W-3CRE-00613-00163672-00163814 about applications and housing when most ausA6W-3CRE-00614-00163815-00163902 of the courses ausA6W-3CRE-00615-00163903-00164223 would be online i was one and two i one ausA6W-3CRE-00616-00164224-00164407 of two other websites i'm not ausA6W-3CRE-00617-00164408-00164695 i saw so i think i i even sent a i did ausA6W-3CRE-00618-00164696-00164823 like a screen grab on the website and i ausA6W-3CRE-00619-00164824-00164943 sent it to your international office ausA6W-3CRE-00620-00164944-00165159 actually i haven't got any reply yet ausA6W-3CRE-00621-00165160-00165302 but on that website which is a very ausA6W-3CRE-00622-00165303-00165487 popular website for anything ausA6W-3CRE-00623-00165488-00165695 like applying to eu all those things the ausA6W-3CRE-00624-00165696-00165847 website says that ausA6W-3CRE-00625-00165848-00166151 um generally people are not allowed ausA6W-3CRE-00626-00166152-00166351 most coaches are banned but they have ausA6W-3CRE-00627-00166352-00166487 some exceptions for ausA6W-3CRE-00628-00166488-00166687 um like skilled people no skills ausA6W-3CRE-00629-00166688-00166807 skillful well they absolutely ausA6W-3CRE-00630-00166808-00166926 the government has a session for skilled ausA6W-3CRE-00631-00166927-00167143 people you might and big emergency ausA6W-3CRE-00632-00167144-00167351 services or things like that basically ausA6W-3CRE-00633-00167352-00167631 uh vital like services or vital people ausA6W-3CRE-00634-00167632-00167663 that ausA6W-3CRE-00635-00167664-00167823 are tied to buying services are allowed ausA6W-3CRE-00636-00167824-00168007 or something like that and the ausA6W-3CRE-00637-00168008-00168231 list they also said students so i was ausA6W-3CRE-00638-00168232-00168454 uncle i was lucky ausA6W-3CRE-00639-00168455-00168638 because that means so because i'm ausA6W-3CRE-00640-00168639-00168783 confused if you go to the ausA6W-3CRE-00641-00168784-00168959 foreign business website you see ausA6W-3CRE-00642-00168960-00169087 something similar like that ausA6W-3CRE-00643-00169088-00169247 that they are saying that are only a lot ausA6W-3CRE-00644-00169248-00169535 that they most people are banned but ausA6W-3CRE-00645-00169536-00169807 some people will be allowed so i just ausA6W-3CRE-00646-00169808-00170038 want to declare ausA6W-3CRE-00647-00170039-00170183 what is the clair from the dutch ausA6W-3CRE-00648-00170184-00170311 government because i've got the website ausA6W-3CRE-00649-00170312-00170351 and ausA6W-3CRE-00650-00170352-00170478 i'm not sure i can't understand what ausA6W-3CRE-00651-00170479-00170607 they're saying but from what i've been ausA6W-3CRE-00652-00170608-00170895 from the questions i've been asking ausA6W-3CRE-00653-00170896-00171126 is there a an exception for students or ausA6W-3CRE-00654-00171127-00171302 the university just wants to take the ausA6W-3CRE-00655-00171303-00171366 extra ausA6W-3CRE-00656-00171367-00171671 precaution because based on the ausA6W-3CRE-00657-00171672-00171847 the schools the buildings you have you ausA6W-3CRE-00658-00171848-00172007 can't maintain that social distance you ausA6W-3CRE-00659-00172008-00172207 know i don't know ausA6W-3CRE-00660-00172208-00172519 sorry my question is sorry ausA6W-3CRE-00661-00172520-00173038 i understand but um ausA6W-3CRE-00662-00173039-00173295 i just want to know what is the what is ausA6W-3CRE-00663-00173296-00173502 the government thing ausA6W-3CRE-00664-00173503-00173687 it also depends how many uh which ausA6W-3CRE-00665-00173688-00173838 embassies are open so ausA6W-3CRE-00666-00173839-00174007 they have given us a list of the ausA6W-3CRE-00667-00174008-00174159 countries that are ausA6W-3CRE-00668-00174160-00174607 have uh opened their embassies so that ausA6W-3CRE-00669-00174608-00174926 non-european countries ausA6W-3CRE-00670-00174927-00175151 have the option to still do an on-site ausA6W-3CRE-00671-00175152-00175343 program ausA6W-3CRE-00672-00175344-00175695 to come this way but it's it's ausA6W-3CRE-00673-00175696-00176038 you know it always change also every day ausA6W-3CRE-00674-00176039-00176095 we're also ausA6W-3CRE-00675-00176096-00176375 checking the same website i guess ausA6W-3CRE-00676-00176376-00176743 netherlands and you ausA6W-3CRE-00677-00176744-00177014 keep an update about that so a lot of ausA6W-3CRE-00678-00177015-00177143 embassies will close ausA6W-3CRE-00679-00177144-00177295 and therefore we just have a few ausA6W-3CRE-00680-00177296-00177526 countries that according to the ausA6W-3CRE-00681-00177527-00177883 european government they can still ausA6W-3CRE-00682-00177884-00178175 travel ausA6W-3CRE-00683-00178176-00178607 okay okay i guess ausA6W-3CRE-00684-00178608-00178911 okay um i guess i guess 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