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Llamacpp imatrix Quantizations of Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B

Using llama.cpp release b3600 for quantization.

Original model: https://huggingface.co/NousResearch/Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B

All quants made using imatrix option with dataset from here

  • Imatrix was measured from Q8 instead of full weights, this seems to have not caused any issues, will post some info after further research

Run them in LM Studio

Prompt format

<|begin_of_text|><|im_start|>system
{system_prompt}<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>user
{prompt}<|im_end|>
<|im_start|>assistant

Download a file (not the whole branch) from below:

Filename Quant type File Size Split Description
Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-Q8_0.gguf Q8_0 431.24GB true Extremely high quality, generally unneeded but max available quant.
Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-Q6_K.gguf Q6_K 332.95GB true Very high quality, near perfect, recommended.
Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-Q5_K_M.gguf Q5_K_M 286.65GB true High quality, recommended.
Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-Q4_K_L.gguf Q4_K_L 244.63GB true Uses Q8_0 for embed and output weights. Good quality, recommended.
Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-Q4_K_M.gguf Q4_K_M 243.07GB true Good quality, default size for must use cases, recommended.
Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-Q4_K_S.gguf Q4_K_S 230.50GB true Slightly lower quality with more space savings, recommended.
Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-IQ4_XS.gguf IQ4_XS 216.57GB true Decent quality, smaller than Q4_K_S with similar performance, recommended.
Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-Q3_K_XL.gguf Q3_K_XL 214.68GB true Uses Q8_0 for embed and output weights. Lower quality but usable, good for low RAM availability.
Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-Q3_K_L.gguf Q3_K_L 212.84GB true Lower quality but usable, good for low RAM availability.
Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-Q3_K_M.gguf Q3_K_M 195.37GB true Low quality.
Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-IQ3_M.gguf IQ3_M 181.74GB true Medium-low quality, new method with decent performance comparable to Q3_K_M.
Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-Q3_K_S.gguf Q3_K_S 175.23GB true Low quality, not recommended.
Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-IQ3_XXS.gguf IQ3_XXS 155.85GB true Lower quality, new method with decent performance, comparable to Q3 quants.
Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-Q2_K_L.gguf Q2_K_L 151.37GB true Uses Q8_0 for embed and output weights. Very low quality but surprisingly usable.
Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-Q2_K.gguf Q2_K 149.32GB true Very low quality but surprisingly usable.
Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-IQ2_M.gguf IQ2_M 136.67GB true Relatively low quality, uses SOTA techniques to be surprisingly usable.
Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-IQ2_XS.gguf IQ2_XS 119.35GB true Low quality, uses SOTA techniques to be usable.
Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-IQ2_XXS.gguf IQ2_XXS 107.27GB true Very low quality, uses SOTA techniques to be usable.
Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-IQ1_M.gguf IQ1_M 93.50GB true Extremely low quality, not recommended.

Embed/output weights

Some of these quants (Q3_K_XL, Q4_K_L etc) are the standard quantization method with the embeddings and output weights quantized to Q8_0 instead of what they would normally default to.

Some say that this improves the quality, others don't notice any difference. If you use these models PLEASE COMMENT with your findings. I would like feedback that these are actually used and useful so I don't keep uploading quants no one is using.

Thanks!

Credits

Thank you kalomaze and Dampf for assistance in creating the imatrix calibration dataset

Thank you ZeroWw for the inspiration to experiment with embed/output

Downloading using huggingface-cli

First, make sure you have hugginface-cli installed:

pip install -U "huggingface_hub[cli]"

Then, you can target the specific file you want:

huggingface-cli download bartowski/Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-GGUF --include "Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-Q4_K_M.gguf" --local-dir ./

If the model is bigger than 50GB, it will have been split into multiple files. In order to download them all to a local folder, run:

huggingface-cli download bartowski/Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-GGUF --include "Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-Q8_0/*" --local-dir ./

You can either specify a new local-dir (Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-405B-Q8_0) or download them all in place (./)

Which file should I choose?

A great write up with charts showing various performances is provided by Artefact2 here

The first thing to figure out is how big a model you can run. To do this, you'll need to figure out how much RAM and/or VRAM you have.

If you want your model running as FAST as possible, you'll want to fit the whole thing on your GPU's VRAM. Aim for a quant with a file size 1-2GB smaller than your GPU's total VRAM.

If you want the absolute maximum quality, add both your system RAM and your GPU's VRAM together, then similarly grab a quant with a file size 1-2GB Smaller than that total.

Next, you'll need to decide if you want to use an 'I-quant' or a 'K-quant'.

If you don't want to think too much, grab one of the K-quants. These are in format 'QX_K_X', like Q5_K_M.

If you want to get more into the weeds, you can check out this extremely useful feature chart:

llama.cpp feature matrix

But basically, if you're aiming for below Q4, and you're running cuBLAS (Nvidia) or rocBLAS (AMD), you should look towards the I-quants. These are in format IQX_X, like IQ3_M. These are newer and offer better performance for their size.

These I-quants can also be used on CPU and Apple Metal, but will be slower than their K-quant equivalent, so speed vs performance is a tradeoff you'll have to decide.

The I-quants are not compatible with Vulcan, which is also AMD, so if you have an AMD card double check if you're using the rocBLAS build or the Vulcan build. At the time of writing this, LM Studio has a preview with ROCm support, and other inference engines have specific builds for ROCm.

Want to support my work? Visit my ko-fi page here: https://ko-fi.com/bartowski

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