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I feel you bro. Glad you’re here, but I still have to do this
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Always inverse GS.
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Inverse GS and inverse WSB. Does that mean I just shouldn't invest in Tesla? ��
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Buy shares and short at the same time. You win either way
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Actually wouldnt be a terribly bad idea if you think about it.
Buy at the dip (100 shares) and sell covered options against the stock. Whenever TSLA does its usual run up on no news, you can sell puts against your 100 shares and collect a good premium every week. If shit goes against you, you'll get the premium and sell your shares at whatever Strike you're comfortable selling at. If you play it right and long enough, you can make a decent amount.
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Have you actually done this? How do you sell a "covered put" by owning shares? Theoretically all you need is cash to do that...
And assuming you meant covered calls, having 100 shares would allow you to sell only 1 contact. In most cases your premium would be dented significantly if it not wiped out by fees.
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You can sell puts and calls against stocks (or naked). The reason for a covered put is that you can "cap" your acceptable loses in a way, similar to how a covered call will cap your acceptable gains. If you are bullish on a stock, you can sell ~~covered~~ puts against your 100 shares to capture a premium as the stock trends upward. If it falls to your strike, it will sell your 100 shares and you keep the premium. The benefit is for example, you sell a 32 strike put and the stock falls to 28, you have the obligation to sell at 32 even though the stock is trading for lower than your strike.
It's very similar to covered calls but in the downward movement as opposed to upward.
> Have you actually done this? How do you sell a "covered put" by owning shares? Theoretically all you need is cash to do that...
Yes, you can trade naked options using cash. CSEP is a cash secured equity put, aka using margin/cash to trade your naked puts. It's risker and requires a lot of up front margin to be locked into your trade, the broker tends to take the cash up front to cover the trade. It's a shitty position to be in, in my opinion. It locks up cash for what could be accomplished in a vertical spread or out right buying the stock without tying up a huge portion of your available cash.
> And assuming you meant covered calls, having 100 shares would allow you to sell only 1 contact. In most cases your premium would be dented significantly if it not wiped out by fees.
Not necessarily, fees are generally pretty low ($1 for Tastyworks) and shouldn't be a big problem. And depending on the underlying and the IV your premiums could be a considerable amount.
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> If you are bullish on a stock, you can sell covered puts against your 100 shares to capture a premium as the stock trends upward. If it falls to your strike, it will sell your 100 shares and you keep the premium
What you're describing is a covered call. When you say *"it will sell your 100 shares and you keep the premium"* by definition you have to be selling a call. You sell the *call* option where the buyer has the right to purchase ("call") your 100 covered shares.
Selling a put means writing a contract to someone giving them the right to sell you ("put") shares at a set price. A "covered" put just means you set aside the cash to buy those shares when the owner exercises their put option, and you have to buy them.
Your general reasoning is right - sell puts if you are bullish and sell calls if you are bearish to capture premium in both cases - but your use of the term "covered" appears to be wrong.
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Shit you right bro. My bad.
[Covered puts](http://www.theoptionsguide.com/covered-put-writing.aspx) actually sounds pretty shitty in reality. Limited profits (credits received) with unlimited risk (shorting 100 shares on top of selling a put).
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50/50 BRK/QQQ portfolio outperformed the S&P in 2017 tho
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It has, and I ran a backtest and it's beaten it since 1999, but performance =/= diversified.
If I were one of his "rich people" I'd be pissed if a guy was charging me fees for buying two stocks.
If you are going to be that lazy, you might as well just buy AAPL. That's beaten the BRKB/QQQ portfolio by 200%.
Also this guy is forgetting how risk/return works.
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Oh I’m with you, “diversified” is a joke...just pointing out that his strategy has worked relatively well.
On the other hand, if people are willing to pay him fees for the level of effort he’s putting in, I think he’d be dumb not to take them. Lol
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Ironically perhaps, he would have been better off going 50/50 with SPY and BRKB than QQQ and BRKB
P1 is just SPY
P2 is BRKB/QQQ
P3 is BRKB/SPY
https://i.imgur.com/xF6gyZY.png
P3 has a lower StDev, best worst year, higher Sharpe, way higher Sortino, and a lower correlation to the US market.
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That’s exactly what I was about to look at. What tool did you use to get that? I should probably know what that is but was about to sit down and put something together in excel to figure all that up but this is obviously much faster lol
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Put some white powder on your nose. 2 mins before interview.
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that's 1980s shit, all the Wall Street guys are on adderall and modafanil now
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Are they really? That shit will only destroy a person's brain over time.
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Multiple neuroscientific studies have concluded that you are incorrect. At least with regard to people being treated for ADHD.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3801446/
"The meta-regression analysis with long-term stimulant medication use showed that the percentage of patients on long-term stimulant medication correlated significantly with increasing activation in the right caudate tail (r = 0.233, permutation-derived P < .001), so that medication-naive patients had significantly reduced activation compared with healthy controls (z = 2.149, P < .001) and with long-term medicated patients (z = 1.646, P < .001), who did not differ from each other (Figure 3)."
http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/1485446
"Our review of structural and functional neuroimaging studies finds no evidence that stimulant treatment negatively impacts brain development or function. In contrast, these studies suggest that stimulant treatment attenuates the brain abnormalities that have been associated with ADHD."
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1600-0447.2011.01786.x/abstract;jsessionid=C780E5BA97F80D44A4F67CBC02B184C0.f02t01
"Basal ganglia regions like the right globus pallidus, the right putamen, and the nucleus caudatus are structurally affected in children with ADHD. These changes and alterations in limbic regions like ACC and amygdala are more pronounced in non-treated populations and seem to diminish over time from child to adulthood. Treatment seems to have positive effects on brain structure."
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LOL, okay AIDS lady. Enjoy your amphetamines.
Let me be clear: I am not asking any of you to prove me wrong. This is not up for debate. You feel the need to overcompensate with hyperbolically emotional rhetoric and vitriol, and this entire time, I have calmly repeated the same basic tenets. Why do you think that is? Which one of us is certain of their position? Which one is emotionally invested and desperate? Like I said before. Go ahead and weaken yourselves. It makes it much easier for me to win.
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Win a dick in the butt?
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First of all, I wanted to give myself a pat on the back for reading that ENTIRE post.
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>I am 99.9% certain AAPL is going to plummet post-earnings, but as there always is no way for me to know for sure.
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If all else fails (which it probably will) , I think you have a bright future being a writer at Motley Fool.
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Had yacht money.
Gambled yacht money away.
Realizes he screwed up and doesn't even have personal finances together.
Gambles the rest of his money away on a blue chip stock.
< 1% chance he will mail lots of Canadian oil to WSB subbers.
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OP exhibits some of the worst behavioural characteristics I've ever seen. There's a reason why all seasoned traders say trading is a mental game.
Edit: One book that I highly recommend all traders incl OP to read if you haven't already is Trading In The Zone by Mark Douglas which explains this psychology and ways to master it. Just my 2c.
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OP could have lived lavishly off the money for a year while attending classes on day trading and reading books and come out of this way ahead if he was disciplined. Instead he burns the money on bad trades while racking up personal debt.
If OP fails in his endeavor (arguably more likely than not) he'll have had a net worth shift of 2.65 million in 4 years, ending 150k in debt. That's back asswards pants on head level gambling addiction there and it's really sad to see.
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Hahaha you think he's going to actually *quit* once he's only 150k I debt? Son, you don't know your gambling addiction. *This is only the beginning*.
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What would you say was the absolute worst gambling addict story you ever saw, and could you link me to it?
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One time I staked 100k at duel arena in runescape then I kept staking and eventually lost my 7 mill bank
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how much did you have in the market?
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I've been long on DXCM since it was $7. Yesterday, ABT announced FDA approval of a competing product.
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> DXCM
You didn't sell it off did you? Do they have any other products or upcoming trials?
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Nah, as pointed out by the hater below, this is just a paper loss.
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Why do you care then?
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More like futures
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Yeah but you need a real broker for those
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RH IS A REEEEEEAL BROKER!
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They should make a premium platform, I live their UI
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On the website i chose the option to switch to the beta version so i could "unlock the features being tested and not available to regular users" - there was literally nothing different.
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Fucking turkey mother fuckers fuck gobble gobble my balls
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Turkey? Blame Trump and America lol..
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Yes blame Trump and America for Edrogan being in power during Obama's term and imposing a fascist Muslim hellscape dictatorship with "Allah will save me" type of logic underpinning the entire government lol.
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Obama or Erdogan did not start the trade war. Trump did. Thats what my comment was directed at. Stop twisting that lol.
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This is so hilarious. You don't engage in a "trade war" with Turkey, you engage in a "sanction policy" that destroys a country with minimal if any US market consequences. Turkey is about 1/10th as important to US trade as Russia is for god's sake.
The Lira has been a complete shitshow since 2015 at the latest. Trump sanctioning them just accelerated their economic, socialist, Muslim hellscape economic collapse:
[https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/currency/usdtry](https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/currency/usdtry)
Their inflation rate has been >25% for the last 3 straight years. Total shitshow of an economy, brought to you by theocratic socialism.
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dude.. again, I dont give a fuck about Turkey, it is a shit hole and Erdogan is a trash dictator. But Trump started the trade war with EU and China which makes the market tank. OK ty bye. Hence my Blame Trump and America.
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The whole EU trade war seems to be over basically, but the market didn't "tank" it's just flat. You guys think 1-2% swings on off days is a volatile market, but it's not even close. Go back to Summer 2012 if you want to see volatile.
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It is far from over but sure.
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[As an Australian during winter](https://i.imgur.com/UHnlrWd.mp4)
The queue for early access to RobinHood here has been going for 3 years. Come on you cunts!
Incidentally, are there any RH alternatives for Aussies? Found something called Stake, but it's literally a squarespace website which makes me seriously question its clout.
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Regulators needs to increase competition in the banking space and hopefully this inquiry will be a catalyst for new fintech
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You expect a royal commission into predatory bank behavior that has uncovered literally tens of thousands of criminal breaches (CBA alone is facing 13,000 charges) is going to recommend allowing the general population easy access to faggy Ds?
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Yup! Scott Morrison is pushing for greater competition in the banking space
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You mean greater competition in the market to drain the savings of fuckwits, the big 4 banks have a had a monopoly on that for way too long.
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The banks are too greedy profiting off autistic people like us so they should share the tendies
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Jan 48's and Feb 50's might be busto
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Think Jan $46 should be rolled out too?
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I wouldn't hold anything for this Jan but 46's might be ok
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Things don't look so good this morning and want to throw up. I am bagholding 4150 shares....
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you can always sell calls against your position.
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Yup and then mu will hit 50
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Yeah well hopefully he makes a worthy sacrifice for the rest of us.
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The gods demand blood
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If your phone is in the photo... what did you use to take the picture????
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Like [this](http://i.imgur.com/XhbVb1i.jpg)
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O shit here we go. How did u take that pic?
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He took a screenshot of the camera when the phone was on the table, then used the camera to take a pic of the screenshot.
Fucking cheater.
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Here you go! [link](http://i.imgur.com/6BXHD5m.jpg)
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If you give me one of those phones I promise to text you good stock tips.
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First tip's free?
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All tips are free ;)
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Buy the rumor sell the news.
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Is this the news or the rumor..... there was no 'rumor' before this and the talk isnt until november 10th. Are you saying to buy now and hold until then?
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It’s a pump and dump if you can’t find news.
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I....I just said the news that i found..... are you retarded?
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Fuck you. Next time use google faggot http://247wallst.com/healthcare-business/2017/10/12/why-infinity-pharmaceuticals-shares-are-surging/
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he is a dumb faggot. http://imgur.com/a/yURJx
I am sure he has googles "how to win the lottery" and bought a bottle of that water that cures AIDS.
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> "how to win the lottery"
Someone once told me buying a lottery ticket has worse odds than going to a casino. I think they were trying to talk me out of gambling. It did have an affect on me though. Now I just save all my scratch off money and blow it at the casino. My odds are still shit but I get free booze!
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It depends how much you play at a Casino.
The expected value of 50 $2 Powerballs ($100) can be [as high as $93](http://www.businessinsider.com/powerball-lottery-expected-value-2016-1)*. That's a loss of 7 cents for every dollar you bet.
The expected value of a $100 bet on blackjack is $94.74 (betting on black/red/odd/even will win 18/38 times). That's a loss of 6.3 cents for every dollar you bet.
The difference though, is that when you go to a Casino you are often rebetting the money. So if I bring $100 and bet $20 a spin on roulette, I'm probably going to play more than 5 spins because my wins and losses will more or less wash out. I might end up playing 15 hands of roulette at $20 each. So even though I brought $100, my expected loss would be $18.90 after playing 20 hands.
So while the actual expected value of a lottery ticket might be lower, going to the casino is usually worse because you usually regamble your winnings.
\**Using the California Power Ball odds as of January 2016. Obviously every lottery is different, especially since the Jackpot is cumulative.*
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> The expected value of a $100 bet on blackjack is $94.74 (betting on black/red/odd/even will win 18/38 times). That's a loss of 6.3 cents for every dollar you bet.
What? Did you mean roulette?
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Yeah
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Then edit it faggot
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That, is some funny shit my friend. Let us know how it goes.
You'd probably need to try some other dating sites that older folks use these days, I don't know what the age breakdown is on tinder but I bet it skews younger.
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Okcupid?
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No, that’s where you go for market research when selling to “socially aware millennials”. I’d hit up eHarmony or Ashley Madison.
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>No, that’s where you go for market research when selling to “socially aware millennials”
Elaborate, I'm intrigued
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Lots of feminists, polyamorous couples, and trannies, among other things.
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how exactly did you buy AMZN and AMD options with 60 bucks? or are you just fucking with us with only a 1W chart?
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https://imgur.com/a/wdMsjcb
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but those were sold in august..
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Yeah, that’s when this is from. Hadn’t gotten around to posting this. Hence the title “from my first time”. Haven’t traded since because the market is crazy. Could have bought puts but calls are more my preference
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atleast say that these aren’t recent then... there are a bunch of us wondering how the fuck you’re up 4000% on calls when the whole market is down 10+% for the week
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I did in an above post that I guess you didn’t see
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oh nope, i did not. my bad.
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so do u use any particular indicators? lin reg?
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Just MACD, 100SMA, 150SMA, and 200SMA
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Wow, even a voodoo technical analysis can work wonders.
But seriously, I know a momentum strat HF manager that uses the same plus volume, and he uses an algo to conduct trades. He believes the key to long-term success is to never risk more than 50% of liquid assets since you can still recover. Might be a decent strat for you to use.
If you don’t mind me asking, is this like FU money or your life savings? And you ever think trading futures or forex using a systematic strategy? It seems like you’d have a knack for it.
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Just out of college working a tedious job, so I don’t mind risking it all for the next year or so trying to reach enough money to trade full time. And it’s too much fun anyhow.
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It’s just one mistake could wreck you. As fun as it is gambling, a single loss now is potentially millions lost in future gains. Def try to get into trading futures and forex because I think you’d like it, but first you’ll need a better brokerage.
Anyway, goodluck! Hope to see you post again with a multi-million dollar portfolio.
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Trump is doing Supreme Court Justice, EU then Russia this week. Trade war is back on next week so this week = green, sideways with slight dip, green. Then next week red. Then the week AFTER we have gdp numbers so moon.
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Sauce?
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News, and my gut. Trump is tweeting about his next Supreme Court Justice and not trade war. He’s scheduled to visit EU to talk trade and military. Then meet with Putin July 16th. He’s obviously busy so no action on China trade war. Market will recover from trade war fears this week.
Next week media and MM will need some reason to cause a pullback. I’m guessing they’ll focus on second round tarriffs on Chiba worth 16 billion. Fear will take over again, market drops. GDP numbers out July 27th will launch us to the moon when tax breaks give us a 4% gdp.
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How reliable is your gut?
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Probably not very but his analysis is good for my calls so I choose to believe
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guys there is way bigger news than this. there is a sub for you all now called r/povertyfinance
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Lol one girl told people to get rid of their kids in order to be financially independent Lololols
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well it's tru tho
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Yes, It is true but not a viable option for people who have already had the kids. What do you do? Shove them back in your vag??? Lololololol
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of course not, babies come out the butt.
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The aristocrats!
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I'm fucking retarded but how does bond yield increasing affect equities
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�� risk free return = ☹️ equity risk premium
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Which is dumb to me. Equities still have shown no sign of slowing, the only reason they’ve dipped is because bond yields have gone up. I’d rather take the risk than make peanuts on a bond
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Yes but you’re in a sub filled with people who enjoy risk.
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Well...I guess that’s true. More people need to be like us though. Imagine a mod as a Fed chairman? Moon ride
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Economy would overheat and then we'd crash worse than 87.
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Hate people who make these pics. yeh everything is simple with hindsight.
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It’s fucking stupid. Amazon IPO’d at $18 a pop in 97’.
Don’t we all wish we could of jumped on that tendies train?
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Beats my parents sold around 20k of amazon in 2009 for 70ish and rebought amazon at 700 in 2015ish. Still made bank but god damn they missed out
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It depends what they did with the money. I sold 15 shares of Disney at 102 and it’s at 110 now. Did I miss out? No, because I used the money to buy 26 shares of square at $60, which is now at $67. That decision netted me $62, but if I had only told you the first part, you wouldn’t know that.
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Held in ally savings for like 1%
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eh. They also didn't lose the fucking lot and made a tidy profit so yeah
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They panic sold in 2009 and didn’t rebuy till I wasted 400 bucks prime day in 2015. All the dd my mom needed
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On red? What a fucking retard.
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You always bet on odd, never a color, fucking cuck.
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Really? That's odd. I can't even
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Literally?
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What a fagot!
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Baquette*
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fuck
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Yea I got a connection..
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Care to help ?
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Stand in front of HQ
100% of your account sell naked puts
Show the Bezos your RH account when he arrives
He will thank you for your commitment to growing Amazon
Hired
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I lost it al on aapl fd calls tho
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I saw this post. The suggestion from that thread was to buy CD with 2% annual interest
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index funds were too risky
everyone who suggested them got downvoted
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Index funds risky?
Christ do these people freak out over loosing pocket change in the drier as much as they do with stocks?
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I mean to be fair he said he needs the money in less than 2 years. If he actually needs *all* of the money then a CD is really the right option. Especially at the markets current valuation. It is not at all unrealistic that that 25k could easily be 20k in 2 years if we go through a significant crash/bear market. If you actually need all of X money in 2 years putting it in the market is stupid period.
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Tesla's autopilot couldn't detect a vehicle the size of a barn door directly in front of it, killed the driver. And the stock brushed it off.
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because it's not fully autonomous and you aren't supposed to use autopilot without also paying attention. it would be like riding a motorcycle and assuming other drivers can see you - stupid idea.
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Maybe it shouldn’t be called autopilot then...
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Queue all the Tesla shills claiming that autopilot is not a misleading name for the dumpster fire that is teslas cruise control.
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have you tried it?
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lol, my dude in the mid 2000s I sat in an s-class that was equipped with lane and distance keeping assistance. Teslas tech, and their competitors, isn't much improved from that level.
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lol couldn't just have said 'no' could you
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Lol nigga got cucked by inflation. He lost 12%. HE LOST 12% OF HIS GAINS YOU FUCKING AUTISTS. JESUS CHRIST.
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Wtf you talking about
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He didnt outpace inflation. This is econ 101. He gained dollars but lost value. Should have invested in MU instead of nerdy Vanguard
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Do you know the current inflation rate? It’s much lower than 9.4%
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Do you know how to compound inflation?
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Do you know how to compound interest?
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Yes, you do it by term. Unlike inflation, which is a continuous variable.
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Both are continuous variables. And if you invested years ago half the portfolio in SPX and half in low-yield bonds, you're still very much above inflation
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Stocks returns aren't continuous. They have open and close times.
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Is JNUG gonna shit the bed tomorrow at open? I bought today at $6 and sold at $7.41 but I'm missing out on GAINS
## Speaker_0: ##
Delete it from your tracker, be happy with gains, and move on.
I didn't do this and today I lost the 10% I spent the last two trade days making.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Put gains in to something just as volatile but more risky. Got it
## Speaker_0: ##
Haha come join the JNUG train with me. I feel like it'll either start losing by 10:30 tomorrow, or it'll hit the 9's by the EOW. Worth gambling on, right? ^^^right?
## Walls1337bot: ##
Maybe. Idk good enough for me I'm in
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Hello YungBillionaire, this is the SEC.
## Speaker_1: ##
Hello YungBillionair, this is the IRS. We would like half of those earnings because sharing is caring.
## Speaker_2: ##
He can reinvest and hold it in Robinhood for over a year to get taxed 15% or 20%, treated as a long term investment or am I retarded?
## Speaker_3: ##
if he sells the option then no, he owes taxes, capital gains. not sure what happens if he exercises the option but doesn't sell the stock (assuming then he holds that for a year)
## Walls1337bot: ##
Capital gains tax is only on investments held for longer than 365 days. This would be filed as regular income.
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## Speaker_0: ##
It shouldn’t even be a question at this point but yes it’s real.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1055882299756109824
## Speaker_1: ##
Who’s gonna make the bot that fact checks Elon’s tweets?
## Speaker_2: ##
Be the change you seek
## Walls1337bot: ##
And the coder we aren't ♥️
## Speaker_3: ##
Why did you leave
## Walls1337bot: ##
I couldn't handle your pill poppin hooooer mother kiddo
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## Walls1337bot: ##
Not me I loaded up on puts 3:55 yesterday
## Speaker_0: ##
Any suggestions for today?
## Walls1337bot: ##
I’m thinking it’ll rally into New Years for a small pop, gonna see how it plays out for now. Sitting on cash tbh
## Speaker_1: ##
I am buying puts then. Always reverse what WSBers do.
## Walls1337bot: ##
That’s why u hedge
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## Speaker_0: ##
Can't Goldman just short themselves? I'm sure Bank of America did..
## Speaker_1: ##
I would absolutely love to see the SEC shitstorm that results from that.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Not straight short stock, or buy puts/sell naked calls or whatever you want to see as "normal" shorting of a company, but surely through some sort of *exotic* derivative a bank could essentially short itself. Maybe not legally, but if 2008 taught me anything is the banks can basically ruin the world economy and you might have a few folks go to jail.
## Speaker_2: ##
Might if you are in finland, otherwise you get bonuses for doing it.
## Walls1337bot: ##
It seems like if the bank is big enough you have an incentive to make reckless gambles. Bigger the better. It can’t be big enough that it would destroy the bank, it needs to be bigger; big enough that it would actually cause a once a generation recession if the gamble doesn’t work.
So yes, I’m sure not only would they not get in trouble but they would use tax payer funded bailout to get bonuses. By they I mean the executives; the poor folks that actually execute the plan will get fired, which I guess is probably better than jail.
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## Speaker_0: ##
You unemployed?
## Speaker_1: ##
He's underemployed you fag. Or below employed?
## Speaker_2: ##
I'm a lowly intern
## Speaker_3: ##
You guys get paid now?
## Speaker_2: ##
I'm in engineering, so we do. Most other interns don't get paid tho.
## Speaker_4: ##
Engineering. Intern. You got scammed son
## Walls1337bot: ##
That’s how engineering works, son. (Paid) Intern in college, have work experience and a full-time job waiting for you before graduating.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Pffft. 2008 wasn't shit. Let's talk about the tech bubble. Mother fuckers were really using the ropes, not just joking.
## Speaker_1: ##
I was mid 20s, green, and traded thru 2008 ok. Wild PnL swings but net green, if only a few K.
I agree, tech bubble was way worse. Most 2008 stocks not only survived, but went on to make 10x-100x new all times highs. If you simply closed your eyes and held on tight, you made out well.
In DotCom bust, many tickers straight up *disappeared*.
## Speaker_0: ##
Yeah man. Fortunes were made leading up to it and lost after. I was early 20's then, it was way before I knew anyone doing any serious online trading. I had some shares of this and that but nothing huge. The valuations and fucking stock options they were giving their tech talent was absolutely mind blowing.
## Speaker_2: ##
What was also crazy was that those tech bubble packages were ridiculous - there was *nothing* in these companies. No product, no sales, no supply chain, just an *idea*. I talked to a girl who worked for one of those companies, she had a finance degree from a state school, no special connections, performed some meaningless administrative function for them, had a job that paid 25k..... ***a month***, stock options which fucking ballooned over 30x original. It was a dream world, then some time in 2000 she showed up to work and the company was *gone*, no call, no notice, just done.
Crazy.
## Speaker_0: ##
Crazy. 25k a month, even if it lasted a few years a person could be set. But I'm sure most of them thought it would go on forever so they yolo'd the fuck out of that shit.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Spent it all on that Silicon Valley rent.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Lol, how’s your electric vehicle program going there Ford? No one is going to want to buy an ICE vehicle in 5 years when it loses 90% of it’s value the second you drive it off the lot.
By the way, anyone want to buy a used pager off of me?
## Speaker_1: ##
Do electric engines not depreciate in the same manner? Or just current demand for the supply of this meme?
## Speaker_0: ##
Nope. Because of there being less moving parts electric motors can work for crazy long times, and because of Tesla’s advanced cell chemistry and battery temperature control the batteries don’t depreciate their capacity as fast like our cellphone batteries do. 1.6 million Kilometre warranties baby! (But this should be true for any manufacturer making EVs)
But the real reason ICEs are going to lose value so fast is when they reach the “tipping point” in public perception. If you’re in the market for a 45,000$ truck today, you have a good idea that it will have *some* trade in value 5 years from now. However, at some point everyone will realize EVs are taking over, and it buying a brand new ICE vehicle won’t make a lot of sense. At some point car dealers won’t be able to *give* ICE xars away. Tony Seba does a really good presentation on this that you can find on youtube. His timeline is 2022 for the tipping point, but who knows. (Norway just hit theirs BTW, over 50% new vehicles being sold their are EVs)
## Walls1337bot: ##
You are WAYYYYY underestimating the effort it takes to establish the local, state, and federal level of battery charging infrastructure needed to actually DD an electric vehicle around the US. So many layers of every part of our democracy.
Until we reach both the availability of charging stations as well as the same recharge time VS filling up a gas tank, this 'tipping point' where we all decide to just go electric is decades off.
## Speaker_2: ##
We got a defective unit over here, subject Jzsjx9jjqz is refusing to join the circlejerk, I repeat, we have a code 9, subject is not jerking
## Walls1337bot: ##
I'm not against all electric vehicles at all, but you either need to be able to store a week's worth of driving in an 8 hour charge, or you need to be able to fill up your battery as fast as a gas tank.
Everyone talking about this 'oh just fill up at night when you are sleeping'. People work odd hours or on call or driving 400+ miles a day at random times, living in huge apartment complexes where you can't just run a 300' cable out your 4th floor window to your car. If you're a home owner, 9-5, 20 minute commute person then go for it, but in their current state these are not for everyone.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Should've held $250K in Calls. Maybe you'll remember this for next time.
## Speaker_1: ##
How many yachts would that yield?
## Speaker_2: ##
Depends. Assuming he bought at $40 with 48 strikes I reckon at least one [of these](https://cdn.thegentlemansjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Mistral-TGJ.01.jpg).
## Walls1337bot: ##
Is this a meme here?
I have seen this exact same conversation before. It's tripping me out.
## Speaker_3: ##
You must be new here
## Walls1337bot: ##
I'll take that as a yes.
Kind of bummed that I don't have super powers that allow me to see into the future.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Awwww fuck ya bud
## Speaker_1: ##
Holy cigrits boys! Ohhh dick!
## Speaker_0: ##
But seriously, if this is going to be a real thing, I want to be involved :D
## Speaker_1: ##
You can read the prospectus next week and get involved. I'll post it here for all you faggots to see.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Prepare for the boring boilerplate bullshit:
"We object to your term *faggots* when proper investing vernacular would prefer the term *investor* in lieu"
## Speaker_1: ##
Thanks for the heads up. I will add an amendment to include something along the lines of "...the Investor (herein "Faggot")..."
## Walls1337bot: ##
*the faggot, the faggotee, faggot, fag, fagvestor, flaming faggot*
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## Speaker_0: ##
Gross. Elon is just being polite. He has no interest in operating in states that won't even sell his cars. You aren't even legally allowed to buy a Tesla in ohio. Why would Elon ever operate a factory there?
## Speaker_1: ##
Why can’t you buy in Ohio?
## Speaker_2: ##
Strong dealer lobby that passed a law prohibiting car manufacturers from selling cars directly, same as Texas.....
## Speaker_3: ##
"Freedom"
## Walls1337bot: ##
Land of the free corporate lobbies.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Just read your posts on IamA. Do you realize how lucky you were? Your rationale:
>Why I bought a crazy amount of S&P-based options: Congress passed a bill slashing corporate tax rates in December. The last time corporate taxes were reduced so much was back in 1986. So I looked at how the market reacted at the beginning of 1987 and saw a huge spike in the S&P 500 in the first quarter.
So you dropped 100k on calls and then miraculously sold at the end of January before the biggest pullback we've seen in the SPX in 2 years?
I'm not hating, good for you, but your rationale was 100% off. When you sold, most of the tax benefit hadn't even been realized yet and Q1 was far from over for most of the S&P 500. Had you held to realize the full Q1 benefits you predicted, you would have lost everything.
Good job, but don't get cocky. You could have done the same with roulette.
## Speaker_1: ##
I was absolutely lucky. But my rationale was that the market would go up a lot in the short term and then drop at a point I couldn't predict, so I bought a ton of calls and sold them on the way up. Turned out decently well. I did think the dip was still a couple months off, but since there was no way to know I was happy taking profits in January.
Still had a chunk of options when February hit so I got whacked pretty hard on paper, but I can't really cry about it.
## Speaker_2: ##
How much did you get to keep after taxes?
## Speaker_1: ##
Don't think I'll know for sure until next year but I did have to write a huge check for Q1 estimated.
## Speaker_2: ##
At least Texas has no state income tax. My state isn’t bad but I’d still probably pay 49% or so on short term gains of that size; you’re probably looking at around 42%ish
## Speaker_1: ##
New top tax rate is 37%. Throw in the net investment income tax and it's 40.8%.
Since this was SPX, though, 60% gets treated as long term gains no matter how long it's held for (i.e. 20% tax rate + 3.8% NIIT).
## Speaker_2: ##
Why does SPX get treated that way
## Speaker_1: ##
IRS treats it like trading futures which get special tax treatment. It's why I go SPX over SPY.
## Speaker_3: ##
You should look into becoming a permanent resident of Puerto Rico. No capital gains tax through Act 22. Lot more room to sail a boat too.
## Walls1337bot: ##
No electricity either
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## Speaker_0: ##
Go post this on r/personalfinance
## Speaker_1: ##
Hahahahahahahahaha...
## Speaker_2: ##
Actually I will send you amazon gift card balance if you do it and link ur post and ban screenshot
## Speaker_3: ##
So in reality he flipped that 25k into 56k + your gift card balance.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Looks like today is coming up all /u/LilMoneyBags
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## Speaker_0: ##
Aren't we still operating under obama's fiscal policies until October when the fiscal year ends? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it a bit too early to count jobs based on trump's policies since he's been president for such a short amount of time?
## Speaker_1: ##
Dude people have attributed the intel factory to him. It makes no sense.
All Trump has done so far is destroy an estimated ~83,000 government jobs for no good reason.
## Speaker_2: ##
Good thing this is private sector data
## Speaker_3: ##
Good thing we have you here to shill for Trump. You realize you already have a huge safe space on this website to peddle your snake oil politics, right?
## Speaker_4: ##
Hill shills out in force today.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Don dongs as triggered as ever
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## Speaker_0: ##
Is this like the new 4chan?
## Speaker_1: ##
Has a lot of the same jokes, but is left leaning instead of 4chan being towards the right
Edit: Reddit as a majority is on the left. This sub is not an exception, but it might be closer to the center than other cucked subs. I personally like the ideas of libertarians.
## Speaker_2: ##
I used to think 4chans hateful sense of humor was funny until I realized those neck beards were serious.
## Walls1337bot: ##
4chan's sense of humor is funny *because* those neckbeards were serious. They got Trump elected, gotta laugh or cry.
## Speaker_2: ##
It wasnt always like that though... hanging out with a bunch of racist freaks isnt that funny.
## Walls1337bot: ##
You have to differentiate people from Stormfront, who are batshit insane, with the /pol/tards who to my experience have had valid points yet to be refuted, since "Racist!" and "Nazi!" aren't arguments- although I, too, stopped going there- because otherwise, [I probably would end up worshiping a cartoon frog.] (https://ci.memecdn.com/10755587.jpg)
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## Speaker_0: ##
Everyone wants to be rich and at the same time don’t want other people to be rich. “hE’S nOT rIcH ENoUgH”
## Speaker_1: ##
They don't want people to get rich off their tax paid money.
## Speaker_2: ##
The government doesn't cut Amazon a 2.5B cheque, Amazon will pay 2.5B less than full price on it's taxes over a period of time. The economic stimulus that business will bring to the region will make up for that many times over.
## Speaker_1: ##
How do you know? These big corporations aren't known for liking to pay their taxes. So that would mean it comes from the employees living in these cities, spending money etcetera.
But if you're a small business owner you're on your own, the government doesn't let you pay less taxes. And greedy Bezos does. There is nothing wrong with big corporations, but let there at least be a level playing field.
## Speaker_3: ##
> These big corporations aren't known for liking to pay their taxes.
Name someone who likes paying taxes. They pay the taxes they're legally required to pay, the same as you and me. If you want to suck Ocasio-Cortez's socialist cock feel free but don't pretend corporations can just *decide* not to pay taxes.
## Speaker_1: ##
No, you and me pay the taxes that we should. These corporations, like Starbucks, and Amazon included, do everything they can to pay less taxes. Like letting revenue pass through legal entities in countries like Ireland, Luxembourg or the Bahamas, and fuck around with laws about royalties and intellectual property.
And yes I would suck her cock.
## Walls1337bot: ##
You do realize Amazon does pay taxes. They paid $957 million in 2017. And as others said below it would be dumb for corporations to try to pay more taxes.
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## Speaker_0: ##
No positions no respek
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## Walls1337bot: ##
props for having the balls to short vol after the events of earlier this year lmao
## Speaker_1: ##
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## Walls1337bot: ##
Seems like you're thinking we're going to go parabolic again like January, but even moreso.
I've gotta say I agree with you on that.
Just get out before *Volocaust 2: The Second One* happens and lever up in the other direction for a vol spike because this next recession will not be pretty
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## Speaker_0: ##
Tech valuations are insane
## Speaker_1: ##
When Facebook bought Instagram for 1B, I was sure of it.
When Facebook paid close to 20B for Whatsapp, I was doubly sure of it.
Still waiting...
## Speaker_2: ##
still have no idea what whatsapp is and never heard of anyone using it.
## Speaker_3: ##
Really? Are you messing with me? What do you use to chat with people?
Edit: wow, I didnr expect people not using whatsapp everywhere, nobody uses anything else over here. Sms is considered shitty, people are abandoning facebook and snapchat is to niche for people who just want to conversate (doesnt mean its not popular, loads of people use it, just kot for regular every day chatting)
## Speaker_2: ##
nearly exclusively iMessage? why would i need a 3rd party app to send a text message?
## Speaker_4: ##
it's just like iMessage but does not require cellular. It needs internet.
## Speaker_5: ##
iMessage doesn't require cellular, just Internet...
## Speaker_6: ##
Also only goes to iPhones...
## Speaker_5: ##
Yeah if there's an "i" I the product title it ain't talkin to anything else.
## Walls1337bot: ##
which kind of kills the purpose when you can't talk to 80% of the world?
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## Speaker_0: ##
Depends on your strike price as well as things called the greeks. But I mean yea in theory the calls would be worth more in the stock rose %1, and yea you could sell those bad boys back into the market for profit.
But idk you should do some actual research. Things like open interest, bid/ask spread, greeks, and strike price affect the end value of your options contracts. It’s a derivative, a lot of factors affect price.
Also gl buying the “dip” on semis. Everybody freaking out about weak iPhone demand. My SMH bull put spread getting trampled rn.
## Speaker_1: ##
Yes I did read about it. Essentially, i would almost never hold on to the options until expiry unless the price already seen a massive increase.
I guess I'll try it with a couple contracts tomorrow and not 100.
## Speaker_0: ##
You know, if you really read about it you wouldn’t be posting this question in the first place
## Speaker_1: ##
Ya I didn't really read about it. I brief read about it. Just want some comments on WSB first.
What i was saying is that i rather hold 1 call vs 100 shares of stocks.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Asking for beginner advice on WSB is like wanting to be stoned in the streets.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Poor boy Buffett owning 5.1% of the biggest company in the world by market cap.
Press F for thoughts and prayers.
## Speaker_1: ##
Technically Buffett could have sold at the all-time highs and we wouldn't know yet.
Berkshire's November 18th 13-F reported his Apple share holdings up to September 30th. Berkshire reported 252.5 million AAPL shares. Yet Apple didn't hit 233 ATH until October 3rd.
So Buffett could have sold everything in October, and could be laughing all the way to the bank.
We won't know until mid-February.
## Speaker_2: ##
Except he's said he intends to hold it for years.
## Speaker_3: ##
Yeah and my dad said he was going for a pack of smokes
## Speaker_4: ##
Your dad doesn't love you like Buffet loves stocks tho
## Walls1337bot: ##
This.
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## Speaker_0: ##
That’s it? There’s a dude with 900k in spy puts lmao
## Speaker_1: ##
Yeah it really ain’t shit but I’ll take up 700%
## Walls1337bot: ##
How are you up 700 percent? When did you buy those puts?
## Speaker_1: ##
April 26th and they are for 1/17/2020
## Walls1337bot: ##
What since that day SPY has been doing nothing but going up, and also that expiration date doesn't exist... you are either lying to make yourself feel better or autistic.
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## Speaker_0: ##
You are the most annoying person in existence. How have you not been banned yet.
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Sup
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## Speaker_0: ##
There's some political irony too all of this: Trump gets lauded as a small government conservative who cuts red tape and lowers taxes to get out of the way of private business yet he still ends up becoming the biggest presidential obstructionist to private business that we've seen in decades. 7d chess indeed.
## Speaker_1: ##
It’s because he’s a fucking moron and his supporters are cult-like
## Speaker_2: ##
Says the commie
## Walls1337bot: ##
So trump is trying to centrally plan our trade economy and the people advocating we return to rational principles that made our economy strong are commies? Kill yourself.
## Speaker_2: ##
Another commie advocating violence! Keep it up your destroying your party. Don’t be coy with me.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Also I’m not being coy, if you think this commie is what you’ve led us to believe you think it is, your brain is better off dead, and your soul better off with a new brain. Kill yourself.
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## Speaker_0: ##
tomorrow:
"$5200 to $0: A Guide On How To Stay Greedy Just The Right Amount Of Time" authored by ayylmao11023
## Speaker_1: ##
This. Kid got lucky. That's it.
His plays are a $260 SPY call (lol @ SPY increasing 8.5% in a week) and way OTM TEVA puts. One worked out but eventually he'll pay this back playing way OTM options.
Just a matter of time.
## Speaker_2: ##
I plan on selling $teva tomorrow and buying calls for nvda.
## Speaker_1: ##
What was your rationale for buying way OTM puts on TEVA?
## Walls1337bot: ##
The way he consistently avoids answering this question means it was either dumb luck or insider info.
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## Speaker_0: ##
[December 24th 2018 discussion thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/a944ma/daily_discussion_thread_december_24_2018/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app)
Interesting to read to read the past...
Edit: [THERE WAS ONE MAN WHO MENTIONED GOLD. I STAND CORRECTED.](https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/a944ma/daily_discussion_thread_december_24_2018/ech1wza/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app)
## Walls1337bot: ##
Those usernames are like a graveyard of fallen bear heroes.....
## Speaker_1: ##
Aww those were fun times. That's when I blew up my account the first time.
Hopefully it doesn't happen again.
## Speaker_2: ##
That’s when permabull grinch boy ny10 turned bear... at the very very bottom haha
## Speaker_1: ##
Oh yeah. LMFAO.
That poor bastard. Is he still around?
## Walls1337bot: ##
He posted the "I will have more upvotes than downvotes or ban me " challenge.
Hubris got him.
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## Walls1337bot: ##
fun fact the wolf of wall street broke the record for the most use of profanity outside of a documentary literally about the word fuck.
reflective of real life tbh
## Speaker_0: ##
I still can't believe it was rated R. Show Girls was more tame than that movie and it got NC 17
## Speaker_1: ##
I remember the South Park guys talking about how they threw in a bunch of extra cursing and overall degeneracy in the first submission of the South Park movie so that they could "fix it" after getting an NC-17 rating and release the movie as they intended. Movie ratings, like any other system, can be manipulated.
## Speaker_2: ##
The exact same thing happened with [Wolf of Wall Street](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/wolf-wall-street-avoids-nc-660653). Scorsese pulled the same trick he used for Casino. The versions released are the ones he wanted to begin with.
## Speaker_3: ##
What's so bad about NC 17 that Scorsese wanted to avoid it so badly?
## Speaker_2: ##
It's release suicide. Some festivals refuse to screen them. Most US theaters refuse to screen them; those that do take them won't allow anyone under 18 in, parents or no, killing the huge market of teens. Google Play refuses to carry them. Redbox refuses to rent them. Walmart won't carry them, save a few exceptions.
In reality, it's a stupid rating that only exists because of prudish pearl-clutchers screaming "think of the children." Mainly only certain indie or foreign films will accept the rating without recutting to R
## Speaker_3: ##
Ah I finally got it. I didn't know that NC 17 is even a higher level than R. So he overdid the inappropriate part, just for the purpose of cutting back and getting rated R instead of NC 17? That's genius. But now I want to see the deleted sex part.
Thanks a lot!
## Speaker_2: ##
Exactly! Marty adds a bunch of super graphic sex scenes he knows no theater would ever show, gives it to the MPAA and gets NC-17, then just resubmits the original cut and gets the R. They're just happy he got rid of the worst stuff.
If I had to guess the parts they cut were probably extended sequences with the hookers throughout the movie.
## Walls1337bot: ##
> Marty adds a bunch of super graphic sex scenes he knows no theater would ever show, gives it to the MPAA and gets NC-17, then just resubmits the original cut and gets the R
Scorsese is the fucking man.
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## Speaker_0: ##
It has to pull back at some point, right? This run has been insane if you think about the market cap added per day
## Speaker_1: ##
the company is experiencing massive top line and bottom line revenue growth, and TTM P/E is still below 20
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Yeah, see I completely agree with you, then I look at P/E, and I think about my recent experience with "low" P/E company, and it makes me gunshy.
## Speaker_2: ##
Does the other low P/E company start with the letter "M"
## Walls1337bot: ##
You know good and well it does.
*checks stock price for fear that speaking of it will cause it to drop*
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## Speaker_0: ##
Get on the spx train. You can lose your money faster.
## Speaker_0: ##
Jk my 2735 calls are going to zero ������
## Speaker_1: ##
what exp?
## Speaker_0: ##
Friday
## Speaker_1: ##
F
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A
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G
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## Speaker_0: ##
Oof just watched some of the 60 minutes. “People who watched the podcast know I don’t know how to smoke weed, I- I- I don’t know how to smoke anything really!” Lmao
## Speaker_1: ##
...except cash.
## Speaker_2: ##
True dat. He burns cash like it's his fuckin job.
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It literally is lmao
## Walls1337bot: ##
Imagine how fast he'll reach the moon once he switched to burning rocket fuel instead.
## Speaker_4: ##
Wouldn’t rocket fuel cost more per volume than actual hundred dollar bills?
## Walls1337bot: ##
Per volume? No way. By my math $100 bills are about a third of a million dollars per gallon.
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## Speaker_0: ##
how do we page the SEC? (bitter because i cant get in on this type of shit)
## Speaker_1: ##
Edit: This isn't illegal for Hillary to post, nor is it market manipulation. And I never implied that Hillary is the one doing the insider trading. That's stupid. Hillary has no incentive to break the law like this when she can make millions sitting on her ass. It was heavily implied by the title of this post that someone low-leveled made the trade instead; after they heard about the tweet somehow. Like her official tweeter, who's probably some intern that works for $12/hour 'for the experience'.
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I'm not a genius. I mean, I am, but the SEC has easy access to whatever data they want. If it's truly suspicious for whatever reason, you can bet the SEC are already on it.
## Speaker_2: ##
Honestly is this illegal? I think its probably shadey as hell but knowing a tweet before it goes out isnt exactly insider information?
## Speaker_1: ##
Edit: Hillary can tweet whatever she wants. That's not what's illegal here. This is illegal *for someone who works with her* to act on. My analogy was incorrect. And again, not illegal on Hillary's end.
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Trading on any information not privy to the public is insider trading. If you hooked up with Hillary's tweeter one night and they told you about it, it would be illegal for you to trade on that knowledge *(edit for clarification: if you work with them or have ties that aren't open to the public)*. You could technically feign ignorance and say you didn't know it would affect share price, but then there's the issue of you spending $1900 on options that would, in any other normal scenario, expire to $0 within 2 days.
Not saying if this case is definitely insider trading, but it could be.
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Are you a securities lawyer? Are you sure that your statement is correct?
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## Speaker_0: ##
This may not be the most popular opinion, but I think him being on the court will help markets I. The Long run. With all the socialists in the Democratic Party, the Supreme Court will now defend free markets for then next 40 years.
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If they make any move from the conservative side to repeal roe v wade - hell will break lose in November. Or whatever election cycle follows.
That’s about the only thing of concern. There will be a massive surge of leftist support of that happens and an associated market tumult.
## Speaker_2: ##
For this reason I think they will wait until after November to try to move on roe v wade
but they are definitely going to do it
## Speaker_1: ##
Agreed. Not this year. Almost curious if they’ll hold off and make it the central talking point for the 2020 election cycle. But get your LEAP puts ready for nov. I don’t see an outcome that doesn’t have a yo-yo effect on the market in the few months that follow.
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Do you fucking idiots not know how SCOTUS works? They can't just decide to "take on" roe v wade willy nilly
Holy fuck you guys are dumb.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Cash out now before you're down 1000%
## Speaker_1: ##
If OP cashes out he's an ultra tard. At this point he better bag hold for a thousand years and beg that he breaks even. No point now in turning these positions into realized loses.
## Speaker_2: ##
They are realIzed losses. I have no stocks now.
## Speaker_1: ##
Holy fuck. I'd feel bad for you if you weren't an adult and clearly able to make your own decisions.
## Speaker_2: ##
College student but yeah
## Speaker_3: ##
What kind of college student dumps 20 thousands on robinhood
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I'm wondering if it was loan money.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Have had many discussions on this topic with other analysts and we all agree that our behavior has become a lot more defensive towards women at the office. We all follow a set of unspoken rules to prevent any possibility of a female coworker "crying wolf" for an unforeseen reason.
## Speaker_1: ##
What kind of behaviors do you guys have to do now? Genuinely curious.
## Speaker_0: ##
I think, if anything, I have become much more self-conscious about my interactions with female co-workers out of fear that a 'hello' accompanied by a smile might be interpreted wrongly and could spell disaster for me.
My rules (please bare in mind that I am a junior at my company aka not in a position of 'power')
1) no 1 on 1 meetings in a room with a closed door (ie. I have purposefully re-scheduled meetings with female interns/co-analysts to large glass-walled conference rooms)
2) no compliments on attire (ie. no complements on a sharp looking blazer, or a neat pair of shoes)
3) stand on opposite sides while in an elevator and look at my phone (pretty sure I do this anyways)
4) never be left alone with a female client or co-worker during/at the end of happy hour events or business related dinners
5) avoid physical contact at all costs (ie. no hugs over celebrating accomplishments at happy hours or congratulating someone on their promotion)
6) avoid asking questions that aren't directly related to business at all costs (ie. might ask my male co-analysts what they did this weekend, but I would never do this nowadays with female co-analysts)
7) if there are additional seats open in a meeting, never choose a seat adjacent to a female co-worker
## Speaker_2: ##
I think 1, 4, and 5 are the right thing to do. The rest I see as a complete over-reaction IMO. But eh, do what you have to do.
## Walls1337bot: ##
better safe than sorry. Would be stupid to lose your job over a hug where someone claims you copped a feel or something stupid.
A good rule of thumb is to avoid everyone... especially feminist types though. lmao, been avoiding them anyways.
Luckily there's not really any women around here to throw false claims around. The ones that are here I would wager would never do something stupid like that though, they're really chill.
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I saw this coming but no one here will be willing to listen to the reason why.
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Don’t bother. That user is far and away the stupidest person here. Look at his post history.
## Speaker_0: ##
Nice argument
## Speaker_2: ##
It’s a fact. Seriously, everyone reading this should go to this guys post history and look at his “submitted posts”
No question the dumbest user I have ever seen.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Usually I just assume comments like these are weak ad hominem attacks, but you are right. This kid has one of the lowest understandings of market concepts I have ever seen.
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Types password.
Presses enter.
mouse immediately moves up to "stop" on the top left of the screen.
He waits a few seconds.
Opens second page.
**tahdah**
## Speaker_0: ##
Like a Candle in the Wind -- Elton John, I'm so deeply sorry.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Carry on
## Speaker_0: ##
Like a Candle in the Wind -- Elton John, I'm so deeply sorry.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Actually, no. I think I believe you.
The weirdest thing about this is your favorites bar though. Did you put old friends on there on purpose, cause I'm starting to like you a lot if you did. If you actually are posting your hedges as total losses, I think you're my favorite person.
And I tend to hate people.
## Speaker_0: ##
Like a Candle in the Wind -- Elton John, I'm so deeply sorry.
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Dude do you wanna get drunk and fuck with people at a bar?
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**O**ne
**R**ich
**A**sshole
**C**alled
**L**arry
**E**llison.
## Speaker_1: ##
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## Speaker_2: ##
Watch him give a speech. He can barely breathe, he's constantly ready to keel over.
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Gotta get yourself a blood boy if you want to be rich like Larry
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## Speaker_0: ##
Thank god I went for the straddle.
## Walls1337bot: ##
also thank mr skeltal for good bones and calcium[^*](https://www.reddit.com/r/tmsbmeta/comments/5xnirl/about_thankmrskeltalbot/)
## Speaker_0: ##
Doot doot
## Walls1337bot: ##
doot doot[^*](https://www.reddit.com/r/tmsbmeta/comments/5xnirl/about_thankmrskeltalbot/)
## Speaker_1: ##
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## Walls1337bot: ##
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## Speaker_0: ##
You bitches don’t mess with the Nancy Pelosi.
## Speaker_1: ##
I don’t get it? ELI5
She bought AMZN calls right?
## Speaker_2: ##
A couple, like only $5mil worth
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Best part was her date of purchase, Oct 12.
She bought the fucking dip. Lol
Edit: Oct 12, not 10
## Speaker_4: ##
gotta be some insider shit. there's no way.
## Walls1337bot: ##
> Oct 10th
It was at $1720 on Oct 10th, she bought the "Dip" before the 2nd bigger Dip and before the last super dip "Dip 3: Electric Bezoloo"
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## Speaker_0: ##
Do we have any AMD bulls left? Or did everyone forget about Su Bae?
## Speaker_1: ##
Friendship ended with Su Bae at the beginning of October.
## Walls1337bot: ##
I'll give Su Bae a call maybe next December
## Speaker_0: ##
I think by next December you'll have already missed the ⛵.
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Maybe. But get it don't matter when this bear market ends Su Bae will go up to $60 ������
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## Speaker_0: ##
Not an options expert here. How risky is this?
## Speaker_1: ##
Under normal circumstances? This would have been like flushing money down the toilet.
## Speaker_0: ##
Where you exposed to massive losses here? I'd like to get into options but the risk and unknown aspets to it and currently being unemployed has kept me side lined at diving into them.
## Speaker_1: ##
I took half of what I made trading last year and put it into options. There was definitely risk but I could afford it. If you're hard up for $ you can get in trouble fast.
## Walls1337bot: ##
How far out do you typically look to buy? Why not sell and buy a larger number of options further OTM (and maybe further expiration) to keep delta the same but increase gamma?
## Speaker_2: ##
further out the money reduces delta. as delta approaches 1 near expiry for in the money options, it gets further from 1 for out of the money, its asymptotic.
its all well and good saying just get more cheaper options, but if they dont ever go in the money its from 100-0 in an instant. if he was capable of calling SPX to the point well he would be making more than a few hundred grand.
## Walls1337bot: ##
>further out the money reduces delta
It also reduces the cost of the option more than the drop in delta. So for a fixed dollar investment, I can get more total delta by buying many more OTM calls than one ITM call. I can also get more gamma (increase in delta with share price) by buying more OTM calls. I pay for that with higher theta. The ROI can be significantly higher with OTM calls. You're right though that they're riskier... the theta is higher, and if the stock goes sideways (or even doesn't go up fast enough) the value of the option can decrease quicker than the delta can prop it up.
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## Walls1337bot: ##
[Politico is reporting that 25 GOP congressfolk of the Freedom Caucus are opposed.](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-gop-obamacare-repeal-votes-236349)
That being said, it's unclear if there's more downside. I've some DIA puts but not blowing up my account over it.
## Speaker_0: ##
Head of the freedom caucus said that some members already have changed their mind. How many, we will see...
## Walls1337bot: ##
Link it, that Politico article was updated barely 20 minutes ago. [Here's one from NBC, where the chair of the Freedom Caucus is quoted in opposition to your statement, 2 hours gone.](http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/biden-defends-obamacare-hill-republican-leaders-hunt-votes-n737086)
## Speaker_0: ##
Lmao politico, faggot confirmed.
The freedom caucus is 35 members, your article mentions 25, do the math. Is there a difference? Can you tell?
## Walls1337bot: ##
Say what you will about them, I try to be exceptionally conscious of the color of the sources, but they're still on the ground rubbing elbows with the people on Capitol Hill. They're not the only ones reporting similarly. Trade on the best information you can find that appears to be vetted across sources, not your politics.
Also, thanks for the source.
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## Speaker_0: ##
FANG is not a stock
Edit: FANG is a stock: Diamondback Energy ticker is FANG so fuck me in the ass
## Speaker_1: ##
FAANG is dead - Long Live the FAGMAN!
## Speaker_2: ##
Fighter of the gayman
## Speaker_3: ##
Champion of the dick
## Walls1337bot: ##
Master of cock frotting
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## Speaker_0: ##
a repost shitpost at that
## Speaker_1: ##
http://i.imgur.com/W1f3RzK.gifv
## Speaker_0: ##
I upvoted, just stating the facts
## Speaker_1: ##
I'm not ragging on you. I just wanted an excuse to use a Reno 911 gif.
In other news, I sold my position in XIV at the open this morning and realized a +3.64% gain in 8 days.
## Speaker_0: ##
nice. I like that gif
## Walls1337bot: ##
wow me too let's make our buttholes kiss
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## Speaker_0: ##
Shit concept. I'm not spending $60 for 3 meals for 2 people a week. I can spend less and get more. This doesn't give you leftovers for lunch. It's exactly just enough food for two people for one meal. Some people like that you don't have to buy more and waste food, but it's like someone coming up to you and saying, "I can sell you a bag of potatoes for $3, or 2 potatoes for $7." It makes no sense to me.
It tries to hit this weird middle ground of people that don't care about their money and are too lazy to learn how to cook, but not lazy enough to not want to cook. If I'm lazy, I'm just going to order take out, not have someone give me cheap meals with a ton of creme fraiche.
I did get my first 3 meals for $20 and then immediately canceled my sub as soon as it showed up to my door though. The icepacks were nice and I saved them.
## Speaker_1: ##
This might be a terrible way of spending money in any situation. But I think a lot of people that are in upper class jobs that pays 6 figure, doesn't really care. I know I wouldn't care about the 60$ price tag if I was working 60+ hours a week in a future engineering job.
I love to cook, I've been doing so since my childhood when I started helping cutting vegetables and baking. I started cooking for the family at age 14 and have quite a lot of experience for my age. I don't need to follow a recipe when I cook, because I have the knowledge to mix and match ingredients to make a healthy and tasting meal. But on some days I just don't want to spend 20 minutes grocery shopping. Heck, yesterday I went into FOUR different grocery stores to find one particular thing. I ended up in the largest store here in my country, also more expensive than the others on average, but they carry everything and has several brands for most items, compared to the low priced grocery stores.
I'm a student now, so I value my time highly, but at the same time, I don't let it ruin my day if I have to spend more time finding the particular thing I'm looking for. But I don't see myself with that patience in the future if I have a SO/family to cook for and a full time work to attend.
## Speaker_2: ##
6 figures is not upper-class.
Income isn't even the correct measure of economic class.
If someone, like the Johnson family, doesn't work but has billions of dollars i in the bank are you going to tell me they are lower-class?
Your assets are what really determine your economic class.
The notion that your income determines your class is a bunch of bullshit created to make lower-class people think they are middle-class.
Middle class means you have sufficient assets such that you do not need to work to survive.
## Speaker_3: ##
What are lower, middle, and upper class definitions to you?
## Speaker_4: ##
Cuck, Faggot, Yacht Owning Faggot, respectively.
## Walls1337bot: ##
I like the cut of your jib.
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## Speaker_0: ##
They will likely be devoured by BABA and papama, although China is obviously big enough for multiple online retail giants.
## Speaker_1: ##
And south east asia. Need to know that Chinese online retails have been expanding to its neighborhood.
## Speaker_0: ##
Has JD been expanding also?
## Speaker_1: ##
Yes partnership with Indonesian online retailer. Indonesia is probably the most populated country in SE Asia.
## Speaker_2: ##
Would you mind giving us a source ?
## Walls1337bot: ##
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Asian_countries_by_population
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## Speaker_0: ##
I'm down 2% premarket before 8am is this what a stock market crash looks like
## Speaker_1: ##
lol try down 40% for a real crash.
## Speaker_0: ##
I lost basically the equivalent of 2 years of my money being in an Ally savings account before the market even opens and you're telling me this isn't a crash?
## Speaker_2: ##
You're seriously on WSB comparing returns to an Ally savings account? Go back to r/investing
## Walls1337bot: ##
Try reading harder.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Started with $240 on Monday. [Finished up at almost $1600](https://imgur.com/gf8ksbG)
p.s. was able to cut my losses with NVDA early.
## Walls1337bot: ##
how the fuck did you 6x your money in a week? care to give a quick breakdown of your trades?
## Speaker_1: ##
FDs. I did a 200 to 1000 challenge in 5 trading days. Ended up 200 to 1600 in 5 trading days. That was a week before the market went to hell tho
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Freakish Dystrophies
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stfu
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## Speaker_0: ##
The autism level on this page never ceases to amaze me.
## Walls1337bot: ##
No u r autism
## Speaker_0: ##
Ahhhh. Yes. The classic “no you are” response.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Ye
## Speaker_1: ##
Your post history on the NBA subs gained you one updoot from me
## Walls1337bot: ##
That's where it's at.
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## Speaker_0: ##
I think this is different than FB and definitely an overreaction. The hit EPS dead on, and just "lost" some users: they banned fake accounts. They say it's to improve the platform long-term and I'm with them on this one.
Also, I feel like a lot of people are using Twitter again. And the company has $32B market cap, compared to FB 510B (yeah, I get that Twitter isn't gonna be as high as FB anytime soon, but I still think for what it is, it's lower valued than Facebook after the drop).
## Speaker_1: ##
This isn’t different from Facebook at all. Facebook didn’t miss any of its numbers by much either. The problem was forward growth.
Twitter can make any excuses it wants but it has no evidence to show that it’s growing even if it didn’t address the fake accounts. These companies, especially twitter, have the valuations they have because they’re expected to wildly grow. Couple that with the fact that it’s barely eeking out a profit and FB looks like a shining star in comparison.
## Speaker_0: ##
Well, if I look at my friends: nobody uses facebook anymore (not counting Whatsapp and some Instagram), but everyone starts using twitter. Idk, I'd rather be long TWTR than FB, but we'll see.
## Speaker_2: ##
Yea your problem is not counting Instgram and WhatsApp. Both have over a billion users and are growing considerably.
So while FB is maturing in terms of growth the other 2 still have plenty room to run.
## Speaker_0: ##
Whatsapp makes no money, Facebook is pretty much dead, and Instagram...yeah thats maybe where the money's at. Doesn't change my mind about TWTR though, I still think it's "less overvalued" than FB.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Twitter doesn't make money either, relatively speaking, and they are going to have a lot of the same issues fb has with regards to user security and enforcement costs.
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## Speaker_0: ##
ACB went from +12 to -5% just now. Trading halted. lol
## Speaker_1: ##
What in the mother of fucks is happening.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Lube up ...you gonna feel what others felt on NOVEMBER 2016
more coming bby
## Speaker_1: ##
It recovered after some stop limit shit got triggered then raged back up. Fucking retarded man. Sketchy as hell.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Last year WEED dropped from 17 to 8 in minutes. Resulted in 2 halts..My average was 6 then so watching my gains evaporate gave me 3rd degree ebola
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## Speaker_0: ##
Dude should have dumped that shit into RAD to double up on those gains. He would have made more in two weeks than he did in 70 years
## Speaker_1: ##
Is the deal really that set in stone?
## Speaker_0: ##
Stop standing on the sidelines son. Get in!!
## Speaker_1: ##
Ive been reading about it in here, what makes yall so convinced?
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i pray to rope
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r/stocks had a thing were amazon made up of 2% of total sales in the united states in 2016. Buttttt people like to overreact
## Speaker_0: ##
I read an article that stated $AMZN accounted for 42% of ~~retail~~ online sales in America.
...42%. As someone who was burned HEAVY on betting against $AMZN, I wish that guy tons of luck. May the stars align for him.
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42% of ONLINE sales. Big difference.
## Speaker_2: ##
Yeah no big deal...just 42% of all sales conducted ON THE FUCKING INTERNET
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Literally anyone can sell shit online. Hard to create a monopoly online
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## Speaker_0: ##
That movie sucks... Pure shit. So many racist undertones
## Speaker_1: ##
Did you see it?
I was think about going getting a burger king crown and wear a bath robe lol
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Ya just stay at burger king
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im black bro
## Speaker_0: ##
Oh sorry, just stay at burger king nigga
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Ahhhaahhaahh gotten me sum orange drank
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sugar water orange
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## Speaker_0: ##
530,000, yup you read that right, 530,000 fuckin shares at .46
I yolo'd my retirement.
If this goes I'm in yacht city, if not I'll be needing that suicide hotline number. Nail biting extreme right now.
## Speaker_1: ##
Proof? Thats insane.
## Speaker_0: ##
It is insane. I could post a pic of my Vanguard account page, but it's true. I read until my eyes bled on the phase 2 component, and the changes made phase 3 seem like a sure fire winner. I feel stupid and scared to fucking death right now, but fuck it, I'm letting it ride.
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Post the pic
## Speaker_0: ##
[Imgur](http://i.imgur.com/ONT3SBG.jpg)
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Are you gonna be tapped by the trump admin to lead up the FDA?
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n
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e
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g
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g
## Walls1337bot: ##
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## Speaker_0: ##
TSLA
but seriously what are the expectations as to how much they'll open down on monday? 120k cars or w/e it was can't be good news.
## Speaker_1: ##
When's the last time Tesla had good news anyways
## Speaker_0: ##
I think TSLA investors are taking this "There's no such thing as negative publicity" concept just a tad too far.
## Speaker_1: ##
Tesla has it made. Bad news from them is pretty much the norm at this point, so when there's good news, Elon is going to be swimming in everyone's option money
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He's such a fun CEO. Every time the bad news comes up he's essentially like "meh, these projects must be done for humanity I don't give a fuck" and investors are betting on him being right.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Its red bro wtf u smoking
## Speaker_1: ##
It’s open today was like 4.19 so it’s green today
## Speaker_2: ##
And it closed over 5.00 yesterday. Are you actually retarded?
## Speaker_1: ##
Bruh I said it’s green TODAY not all week or all 2 days
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“Today” usually implies off of previous close.
6% AO sure, not “today” wtf.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Is that really the Snapchat logo?lol doubling down on my puts
## Speaker_1: ##
I wanna buy puts but I’d argue that Snapchat has some value due to its sheer size, user base and brand awareness. I don’t know if Snapchat is necessarily worth less than $5 per stock, because it could be easily bought and repurposed by another tech firm
## Speaker_2: ##
There is nothing really unique about their product. Instagram started doing the exact same thing, and Insta could outlast SNAP with its bankroll easily. Snapchat is hemorrhaging cash.
## Speaker_3: ##
Yeah but no one uses Instagram in a way that people use Snapchat.
Snapchat is a quick/simple interface for fast chats, if you really use Instagram and Snapchat they’re different.
I’m 22 years old in college and I see people use Instagram more as a “Facebook” to keep in contact with a lot of people whereas Snapchat is more for closer friends where you can send videos and pictures privately.
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It's a tween/millinial social platform. Every generation for now on will have their own social platform.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Fuck I need to start writing options
## Speaker_1: ##
I’ve been saying this forever. Where can we sell naked options?
## Speaker_2: ##
I have a feeling you're going to be the next OP
## Speaker_1: ##
Nah son I’m an expert at picking options that expire worthless.
## Speaker_2: ##
That's alright. Welcome to the club. I'm more worried that you're going to start selling naked calls, which could put you in unlimited loss territory.
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That's seems to be precisely what he is planning on doing
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## Speaker_0: ##
This shit is gonna keep on drilling already up 70% on my puts.
## Walls1337bot: ##
214%
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-33.78%
my greed stayed my hand
## Speaker_2: ##
Damn, every time I think someone here might not belong lol.
## Walls1337bot: ##
I bought a bunch with a $128 strike. It was mostly IV and put sellers buying back the dormant contracts that jacked up the premium. JNJ never even went below $130
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## Speaker_0: ##
Warren: Dude I just spent 80 years merging random companies together and you want to break them up? Because ice cream cones and jet parts are a vertical market?
## Speaker_1: ##
In is defense he wasnt worried about antitrust issues. He recommended breaking up any company with an investment exposure of >3% of GDP. His retarded logic being "maybe if Lehman were split into two smaller companies their toxic balance sheet would have been okay." Like saying if your credit card balance is too high you should transfer half the balance to a second card so your debt will be more manageable.
So it's a dumb suggestion. Just dumb for a different reason.
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I know all Bernie's supporters are millennials, but given that the guy is old as fuck how does he not remember the S&L failures?
## Speaker_3: ##
I think you’re seriously overestimating Bernie’s knowledge and intelligence. This dude was jobless and couch surfing until Fucking 40 years old. He left NYC at the age of 18. Who the fuck leaves that city at the age of 18? Never owned shit or managed wealth in his life until [*no refunds*]. After running the liberty union to the ground by spending all the money, then became a mayor because his burned out best friend who was the mayor before told everyone to vote for him against incumbent and By some miracle managed to fuck enough unwashed hippies and convince all the communist and Marxist groups in his state to endorse him, literally got all the Welfare offices and commi college professors to shill for him, and become mayor by 10 fucking votes. The rest is basically a repeat of what I said up to the house and the senate
No one with average IQ or above and some knowledge about economy that’s above the age of 25 can become a commie, it’s literally impossible
## Speaker_4: ##
Jeez where did he hurt you?
## Speaker_5: ##
His wife literally bankrupted a local college my sister used to work when she was president. Chick lied to the bank who loaned them millions about the college having funding to buy 33 acres of lakefront property. Kind of nice to have others know how big of a POS a politician is even if they haven't been directly fucked by them.
## Walls1337bot: ##
> Kind of nice to have others know how big of a POS a politician is even if they haven't been directly fucked by them.
Is his wife a politician? Bc if not, then I'm not sure why you would call bernie a pos for something his wife did. Would be like blaming bill for Hilary being a pretentious entitled cunt or blaming Melania for Trump being the most unintelligent and blatantly corrupt president of all time.
## Speaker_5: ##
Lmao are you serious. If a politician who is running for president's SO has a proven track of gross ineptitude in a position of power, of course that reflects poorly back on the candidate. She would be in even more of a position of power.
And the obvious point here is that they're both terrible with money. Do you know how many times Bernie has tried and failed to pass single payer healthcare in Vermont due to lack of funding, only to move on and campaign on it on a Federal level? I mean the guy can't even pass a fraction of the shit he's preaching in the smallest and most liberal state in the country. He knows that what he's promising can never be funded yet that's his entire M.O.
## Walls1337bot: ##
> of course that reflects poorly back on the candidate
If Bernie is a POS for things his wife did, then that speaks beyond poorly for trump or whatever retarded politician you support, seeing as how there's probably an encyclopedias worth of things that THEY and not their SO, has fucked up. I don't agree with everything Bernie has said but there isn't a single politician you can put up against him who you can say is less corrupt, more honest, has a better track record for decision making, or is more for the people than he is. There's a reason he was voted the most popular senator last year and the only one that he majority of Americans actually liked.
> And the obvious point here is that they're both terrible with money
Yet he's still better than any other politician I see trying to manage money. How many times did trump declare bankruptcy, again? How much tax fraud is he about to be charged with in nyc? How much was that small loan he got from his parents that turned out to be closer to half a billion dollars? Where're his tax returns? How many trillions did the GOP just run the deficit up? Why is trump about to spend 18 billion in tax payer money for a fucking useless wall that cartels and human traffickers will just tunnel under?
> I mean the guy can't even pass a fraction of the shit he's preaching in the smallest and most liberal state in the country.
He's sponsored 3 passed bills and his name is on 200+ that he's cosponsored and have passed. which doesn't sound like much until you compare it to Hilary who's passed 16 sponsored and has 77 that she cosponsored that have passed. Compared to 3 bills that Paul Ryan has sponsored and 83 cosponsored and zero from trump before he became president.
Regardless, the amount of legislation passed isn't even a quality measure of productivity or effectiveness. Things like the amount of meetings held, track record of voting, language presented written/altered/modified, committee positions, and constituents helped are all way better measures of quality. Since you're making the acqusation of him being a terrible politician, the burden of proof lies on you to provide those numbers in comparison to whoever you support. Hmu when you get all of that, until then just stop talking because nothing you say is valid.
> He knows that what he's promising can never be funded yet that's his entire M.O.
Except it's funded by many other 1st world countries already, countries with way less money than us, and has been for years.
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## Speaker_0: ##
What's your occupation? Need a decent major
## Walls1337bot: ##
Photography/marketing
## Speaker_1: ##
I am a marketing major and an amateur photographer. Wheres my million bucks? We need an AMA
## Walls1337bot: ##
Gotta start your own business and sell/market/license to a world wide audience. It also takes time and a lot of luck...oh and hard work
## Speaker_2: ##
Can I ask what specific type of business you mean? I'm also a 23 yo marketer who is learning photography on the side (not good yet, but it's something I find enjoyable)
## Walls1337bot: ##
Commercial photography and advertising. Most of my money comes from licensing my work and also infringement cases with people or companies using my work illegally. I also do some workshops here and there and some video work too.
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## Speaker_0: ##
What is you interviewing for?
My interviews are like:
Can you drive a stick? Have you crashed? Have you lost a load somewhere?
Welcome aboard...
## Speaker_1: ##
A consulting place and a wealth management place
## Speaker_0: ##
So basically dont show them you are subbed to WSB?
## Speaker_1: ##
Some of my best work is on wsb. If they ask, in obligated to inform them.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Doubtful with this double post. I'm guessing you didn't get the job.
## Speaker_1: ##
Just finished. Went pretty well but I think I want a more senior position.
## Walls1337bot: ##
You ate a fuckin crayon didn't you.
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## Speaker_0: ##
I bought in hard. A guy with a van can't destroy 2% of the economy.
## Speaker_1: ##
But a chetto with a Twitter can
## Speaker_2: ##
it's so edgy to be anti-president these days
## Walls1337bot: ##
"It's so edgy to be anti-nazi sympathizers these days."
## Speaker_3: ##
And super easy to be pro-communism apparently.
## Walls1337bot: ##
So anti-nazi is pro communism? Let me tell our WW II veterans, I'm sure they'd love to know that.
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## Speaker_0: ##
It wasn't even a leak or a breach, no doubt Facebook was in cahoots and getting paid all along. Anyways this is old news, I read an article on Cambridge Analytica some 6 months ago outlining the Brexit scandal, they're simply using this as a tool to manipulate tech down and it's working. The world is full of weak-handed cucks.
## Speaker_1: ##
So many weak minded cucks. It's okay if liberal tech people are selling your data to consumers and influencing your life choices...but as soon as conservatives use the playing field to their advantage it's time to change the rules
## Walls1337bot: ##
Except Cambridge used that info to help influence an election. Which is different than influencing your consumer habits imo
Edit: LOL at those front page articles about Cambridge analytica
## Speaker_1: ##
You don't think that dems were using Facebook data as well? Lmfao. I wish I had that level of bliss ignorance. This election was won by 4chan fair and square
## Walls1337bot: ##
Pretty sure the dems didn’t have a company like Cambridge using sketchy means to help them
## Speaker_2: ##
you’re totally right. media matters doesn’t even count, neither does CTR, nor does shareblue. fusion GPS doesn’t count either. only the ones that i don’t like are the ones that count. and these are just the well-known third party orgs
blue wave 2018
## Walls1337bot: ##
LMAO look at the front page regarding Cambridge analytica
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## Speaker_0: ##
I made the meme stock bracket. I don’t understand how it’s complicated.
If you cant understand the bracket I’m not sure how you have $10,000 to play with.
## Speaker_1: ##
That's why this fucktard is going to risk 10K. probably stole that money from his dying grandma.
## Walls1337bot: ##
All my grandparents are already dead.
## Speaker_2: ##
So thats how you got the money?
## Walls1337bot: ##
No they were all poor farmers actually.
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## Speaker_0: ##
Please tell me you went all in on margin for UXIN.
Please. I'm begging you.
## Speaker_1: ##
This is from spy puts
## Speaker_2: ##
I thought you couldn’t trade options on margin in robinhood?
## Speaker_3: ##
RH Gold is essentially paying a monthly fee for up to 2k in margin
## Speaker_4: ##
Exactly why my bitch ass won't pay for RH Gold. I'm not paying for the privilege of losing someone else's money.
## Walls1337bot: ##
RH gold is sweet, for $6 a month I get $1000 in margin and instant access to $2k when I transfer.
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## Speaker_0: ##
I think that their growth may have slowed down but their ad revenue has increased. So I’d buy some OTM calls just in case
## Speaker_1: ##
SNAP is going to quickly go the way of YikYak. They made a UI change that pissed off the users juuust enough to get a critical number of them to get fed up and quit/move to another social media app (Instagram) whereby even if they try to backtrack, it'll be too late where the sentiment towards the company turns into a negative death spiral. Sure, they might have increased ad revenue, but they're over the hump in user growth at this point.
And they're a one-app company. If that app fails, they fail, and why would anyone even bother acquiring a failing social media company? It's not like they even have any physical assets to liquidate.
The reason The Facebook Company is fucking brilliant is because they can figure out what is going to be the next big move in social media and acquire them early on (whatsapp/Instagram acquisitions)
SNAP is dying and should be shorted to zero.
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Then put your money where your mouth is and short it
## Speaker_1: ##
It is Sunday, my dude. I thinking I'll pick up some puts tomorrow tho.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Pics or it didn't happen
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## Speaker_0: ##
Buy the dip!
## Walls1337bot: ##
Which dip though? I enjoy the Gaelic parmesan but I suppose I wouldn't be opposed to buying the honey BBQ dip either.
## Speaker_1: ##
Mmmm I love me some parmesan garlic. I've tweaked a recipe I make at home that's pretty similar to the real thing.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Well don't just stand there... Lemme get that shit.
## Speaker_1: ##
* 6 cloves garlic, peeled
* 2 Tbsp olive oil
* 1/2 cup mayonnaise
* 1 Tbsp corn syrup (or 1 Tbsp sugar dissolved in 1tsp warm water)
* 2 Tbsp parmesan cheese
* 1 tsp lemon juice
* 1 Tbsp apple cider vinegar
* 1/4 tsp thyme
* 1/4 tsp marjoram
* 1/4 tsp oregano
* 1/4 tsp basil
* 1/2 tsp red pepper flakes
* 1/2 tsp salt
* 1/4 tsp black pepper
1. Heat oven to 325 degrees F.
2. In a small baking dish, place the garlic and drizzle with the olive oil. Cover tightly with aluminum foil and bake 20-25 minutes, until garlic is tender.
3. While the garlic is baking, mix the remainder of the ingredients, whisking until smooth.
4. When the garlic is tender, let cool about 5 minutes. Crush into the sauce using a garlic press or mashing with the edge of a knife.
5. Mix well. Refrigerate a few hours or overnight.
**EDIT:** [This pdf is really helpful](http://parentsr.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Buffalo-Wild-Wings-Sauce-Seasoning-Allergen-Ingredient-Listing-2011.pdf) for reverse engineering BWW sauces. Parmesan garlic main ingredients are soybean oil, water, distilled vinegar, parmesan cheese, corn syrup, egg yolk which point towards it being a mayonnaise-based sauce.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Magnificent
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## Speaker_0: ##
I am 17 rn and looking to start investing in about 1 to 2 years. Do you maybe have any tips for me about getting to know the market or other stuff that helped you to get started?
## Speaker_1: ##
1. Unsubscribe from WSB.
## Speaker_0: ##
Really? This sub gives me a good laughter sometimes.
## Speaker_1: ##
Nah. Just don't invest any money based on what you read here & you'll be good.
## Walls1337bot: ##
I wish you could have told that to my 225.5 AAPL 8/31 calls before I bought them this morning ��♂️
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## Speaker_0: ##
On low volume fag
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You dont track volume in futures moron.
## Speaker_0: ##
"Volume and open interest are integral measures to guide one's trading decision on the futures markets."
## Speaker_1: ##
Ooo you can do a Google search. Seriously you are clueless if you think volume matters when watching futures.
Show me where volume is indicated here peon tard:
https://www.investing.com/indices/us-30-futures
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Futures are big time red now faggot
## Speaker_1: ##
Another idiot. Looking forward to watching you fags cry tomorrow your $200 in puts went to zero.
## Walls1337bot: ##
I spent more on trading fees this week than your entire account value.
https://imgur.com/a/Ei5uH
## Speaker_1: ##
Want to bet? You sound pretty smart but I'm willing to take the risk. How about we bet $10 grand on this one.
## Walls1337bot: ##
The fact you said $10 grand is all that needs to be said. Hold that L, Daddy's busy now go play outside.
## Speaker_1: ##
Here’s a snippet of my Friday’s trading homo
https://imgur.com/gallery/PcvrN
## Walls1337bot: ##
That doesn’t tell me shit faggot, lets see your TTM. You just stole a photo online you fucking faggot
## Speaker_1: ##
Ok Jr. Keep downvoting me fag. Am I hurting your lil feelings?
## Walls1337bot: ##
Lol you got wrecked and used someone’s account value to try and impress me hahahahaha
Get more butthurt poor fag
LETS SEE YOUR TTM
## Speaker_1: ##
Yep, you caught me. Of course you would find the time and sales would line up perfectly with these trades.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Exactly why you used an old photo from imgur and won't post your TTM hahahahahahahahhah
Mods ban this poor faggot
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## Speaker_0: ##
I thought Mexico was paying?
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They're gonna reimburse us
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Good one.
## Speaker_2: ##
You realize that we can literally force them to pay, right? There are hundreds of ways to do it. Tariffs, remittance taxes, sanctions, etc.
## Walls1337bot: ##
Trump does not have the political capital to pull any of that off. He didn't have the ability to pull off healthcare reform even though he has a red congress that flew that flag for 7 years. He cannot get a remittance tax without congress and congress does not support him. He could use executive authority to tariff imports which begs the question why he has not done that already to start saving for the wall, my speculation on that is because he knows the shit storm that would cause. If he sanctions mexico over this he gets impeached.
Assuming he figures out how to fund this wall without any problems he then has to break ground and build and he does not have nearly enough popular support to survive the ads showing all the Americans he is going to have to steal land from to build the thing. He does not have the capitol to endure the mass protests that will happen on both sides of the border.
Even if he pulls all that off somehow then he is just gift wrapping Texas and Arizona to the democrats in 2020 because now all the dem has to do is be a middle of the road dem and throw in the campaign promise of returning all the land that Donald Trump stole to build the wall.
## Speaker_2: ##
>He could use executive authority to tariff imports
so you just admitted he can do it, lol
as for the rest of the comment with bullshit assertions that you pulled out of your ass: you sound exactly like one of the people from pre-election who wrote reddit comment novels explaining how there is no way trump would win, lol
>he is just gift wrapping Texas and Arizona to the democrats
[52% of Texans either strongly or somewhat support the border wall, only 40% oppose](https://texaspolitics.utexas.edu/set/support-wall-along-mexico-border-june-2016)
you unironically think that texas AND arizona will both go blue because "he stole land for the wall" lmao, you're literally just making shit up at this point. you're beyond delusional
tl;dr: you're a butthurt low T faggot. you have no argument. keep doubting him, you'll keep looking stupid
## Walls1337bot: ##
Well I never doubted he could win the election after he pulled off the primary upset and I will admit that I did not think he could survive the primary. But yes, Donald Trump cannot pull off building this wall and he can't get Mexico to pay for it because your brilliant tariff plan only works if Mexico gets complicit and does nothing to counteract it. It was his single biggest campaign bullet point and 7 months into his tenure he has nothing to show for it beyond an early executive order to scope the project. If Trump starts a trade war at the border, which he could do, congress will get involved and the Dems hate him. Arizona and Texas congressman will face constituent pressure since they will be hurt. Trump legitimately cannot pull this off without congressional and popular support that he just doesn't have.
## Speaker_2: ##
>Arizona and Texas congressman will face constituent pressure
>*P O L I T I C A L C A P I T A L*
jfc you're trying way too hard and you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. you lost all credibility when you claimed texas would go blue, faggot
## Walls1337bot: ##
That is political capital against him you idiot. And Texas will absolutely flip blue after a republican president steals land from Texans. Texas takes land rights very very seriously.
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