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2nffg2 | 162 | I bought a box of stuff at an estate sale. It turns out something inside was really valuable and now the heir of the estate wants it back.. What are my obligations? A woman past away and her family held a sale to get rid of things they didn t want to keep. I bought a box of stuff for $20. It turned out that a couple things in the box are very valuable. I haven t gotten an expert appraisal yet but I believe the box s contents are worth at least $15 000. I had not yet decided whether I want to keep things things or sell them or possibly return them to the family who held the estate sale. I am still waiting and want to get an expert s thoughts on the items. Meanwhile the guy who clued me into the value of the items called up his niece who works for a local newspaper and writes a column about our town s history. She did a little story on it. Someone from the family who sold the box of stuff saw the story. They had a lawyer send me a letter saying that they did not intend to sell those items and to return them. They said that if I return them by Friday 11 28 they will halt legal action. I was originally considering giving the items back to the family since I know they obviously didn t know their value when they sold them. However I expected that to be a friendly warm interaction. Getting a letter in legalese making demands and threatening legal action makes me less eager to hand the items over just yet. Before I make any decisions I d like to know what my legal obligations are and whether it s likely they would be successful with the legal action they re threatening. State: Connecticut | They re yours. > I was originally considering giving the items back to the family since I know they obviously didn t know their value when they sold them. However I expected that to be a friendly warm interaction. Getting a letter in legalese making demands and threatening legal action makes me less eager to hand the items over just yet. Completely agreed fuck em. They ve got no legal ground to stand on and they know it and are doing a Hail Mary play by hoping that a scary letter from a lawyer will bluff you into giving it back. It really pisses me off when people resort to that straight away instead of simply asking nicely first I m totally with you on that. Do *me* a favor and *don t* give it back. | Keep it. TFB on their part. | 75 | 22 |
2nh6yt | 309 | [RI] My kid bought something from another kid. His parents want it back. They are threatening to go to small claims court over it. My 12 year-old son has been saving up to buy a Playstation 4. One of his classmates said that he was trying to sell his because he wanted to buy something else. He and my son made a deal and my son bought it. Now I have been called by his parents. They are saying that since their son is a child he cannot legally sell things and the Playstation was not his to sell. They are demanding the Playstation back. I said it must be a misunderstanding but that yes we would return it to them if they return my son s money. Then they said they have no idea where the money is - they don t know what their son did with it. They say that they will not pay us for something that is effectively stolen goods and that they will take us to small claims court if we don t return it to them today. Now parental issues with us them aside I want to know if this is something I need to be worried about. Thanks. | Omg please go on Judge Judy | In my area we have a law society through which you can get a free half-hour consultation by phone. This lawyer referral service seems to be the equivalent in your area: https: www.ribar.com for%20the%20public findingandchoosingalawyer.aspx | 96 | 2 |
2nh6yt | 309 | [RI] My kid bought something from another kid. His parents want it back. They are threatening to go to small claims court over it. My 12 year-old son has been saving up to buy a Playstation 4. One of his classmates said that he was trying to sell his because he wanted to buy something else. He and my son made a deal and my son bought it. Now I have been called by his parents. They are saying that since their son is a child he cannot legally sell things and the Playstation was not his to sell. They are demanding the Playstation back. I said it must be a misunderstanding but that yes we would return it to them if they return my son s money. Then they said they have no idea where the money is - they don t know what their son did with it. They say that they will not pay us for something that is effectively stolen goods and that they will take us to small claims court if we don t return it to them today. Now parental issues with us them aside I want to know if this is something I need to be worried about. Thanks. | Omg please go on Judge Judy | it definitely sounds like they re running a scam on you. please keep us updated! | 96 | 9 |
2nh6yt | 309 | [RI] My kid bought something from another kid. His parents want it back. They are threatening to go to small claims court over it. My 12 year-old son has been saving up to buy a Playstation 4. One of his classmates said that he was trying to sell his because he wanted to buy something else. He and my son made a deal and my son bought it. Now I have been called by his parents. They are saying that since their son is a child he cannot legally sell things and the Playstation was not his to sell. They are demanding the Playstation back. I said it must be a misunderstanding but that yes we would return it to them if they return my son s money. Then they said they have no idea where the money is - they don t know what their son did with it. They say that they will not pay us for something that is effectively stolen goods and that they will take us to small claims court if we don t return it to them today. Now parental issues with us them aside I want to know if this is something I need to be worried about. Thanks. | Omg please go on Judge Judy | Has your son talked to their son? Or god forbid did the parents talk to their own child about where the money went? This seems like such an easy thing to discover and fix.. | 96 | 13 |
2nh6yt | 309 | [RI] My kid bought something from another kid. His parents want it back. They are threatening to go to small claims court over it. My 12 year-old son has been saving up to buy a Playstation 4. One of his classmates said that he was trying to sell his because he wanted to buy something else. He and my son made a deal and my son bought it. Now I have been called by his parents. They are saying that since their son is a child he cannot legally sell things and the Playstation was not his to sell. They are demanding the Playstation back. I said it must be a misunderstanding but that yes we would return it to them if they return my son s money. Then they said they have no idea where the money is - they don t know what their son did with it. They say that they will not pay us for something that is effectively stolen goods and that they will take us to small claims court if we don t return it to them today. Now parental issues with us them aside I want to know if this is something I need to be worried about. Thanks. | Omg please go on Judge Judy | They can rescind the sale but they have to give the money back | 96 | 15 |
2nh6yt | 309 | [RI] My kid bought something from another kid. His parents want it back. They are threatening to go to small claims court over it. My 12 year-old son has been saving up to buy a Playstation 4. One of his classmates said that he was trying to sell his because he wanted to buy something else. He and my son made a deal and my son bought it. Now I have been called by his parents. They are saying that since their son is a child he cannot legally sell things and the Playstation was not his to sell. They are demanding the Playstation back. I said it must be a misunderstanding but that yes we would return it to them if they return my son s money. Then they said they have no idea where the money is - they don t know what their son did with it. They say that they will not pay us for something that is effectively stolen goods and that they will take us to small claims court if we don t return it to them today. Now parental issues with us them aside I want to know if this is something I need to be worried about. Thanks. | > They say that they will not pay us for something that is effectively stolen goods and that they will take us to small claims court if we don t return it to them today. So if the kid gave the playstation and the other kid gave money if the playstation is stolen then by that logic the money is stolen as well. Right? EDIT: It is actually. Money was earned by the child by mowing lawns or whatever. Legally any money earned by a minor belongs to the parent. That money was just as much his parents as the Playstation was the parents of the other child. > Then they said they have no idea where the money is - they don t know what their son did with it. That s fine you don t need the exact bills the kid gave the other kid. Any equivalent bills will be fine. | These assholes are being unreasonable and don t have a leg to stand on. If they take you to court you have the emails as proof. I agree with the other user who said that you should send the jerks a certified letter explaining that they can have their shit back if they return your son s money (also recap dates and summaries of conversations you had with these idiot parents) that way if you end up in court this letter will be a good piece for your case. I would suggest from now on limiting all correspondence with them through email or letters. This way you have proof of all exchanges to present to the judge if it comes to that. | 112 | 35 |
2nji3y | 110 | Long story short I m a loser trying to get a job for the first time at 23. Tried to apply for the first time for at the DMV my I.D and they turned me down because I don t have anything acceptable. Basically my mom got heavy intro drugs i dropped out of high school and lived with my uncle at around 15-ish years old and literally did nothing until now. 23 years old and i want need a job need my drivers licenses and need my ID. I went to the Louisiana DMV waited in line for 2 hours and got turned down (for my ID) when i tried to present my birth certificate and Social security card. I don t have anything they want. * No pay check stub * No proof bills with my name on it * no school records * no nothing except the cloths I have on. I have 16 + - days to do every thing and im have no idea what to do. Googling the issue brings me to lots of crazy services that want me to pay for normally free things. I hope this is a good place to ask if not is there another subreddit i can try? ***ALSO BONUS QUESTION!*** I think my dad has been working under my name since he has a copy of my social security card birth certificate. He s been evading child support payments and that would explain it. What should can I do about this? Will this negatively affect my life (such as owing money due to his actions)? According to my mom my dad claims someone else got a hold to it and they ve been working in my name. My dad supposedly has the IRS after him over some $20 000 owe or something. I don t want this to affect me if true. | Not advice but you re not a loser. Your post and your questions are more articulate than 90% of the ones posted here. | Can you put a bill in your name at your uncles house? Might cost you a deposit though. | 151 | 5 |
2nji3y | 110 | Long story short I m a loser trying to get a job for the first time at 23. Tried to apply for the first time for at the DMV my I.D and they turned me down because I don t have anything acceptable. Basically my mom got heavy intro drugs i dropped out of high school and lived with my uncle at around 15-ish years old and literally did nothing until now. 23 years old and i want need a job need my drivers licenses and need my ID. I went to the Louisiana DMV waited in line for 2 hours and got turned down (for my ID) when i tried to present my birth certificate and Social security card. I don t have anything they want. * No pay check stub * No proof bills with my name on it * no school records * no nothing except the cloths I have on. I have 16 + - days to do every thing and im have no idea what to do. Googling the issue brings me to lots of crazy services that want me to pay for normally free things. I hope this is a good place to ask if not is there another subreddit i can try? ***ALSO BONUS QUESTION!*** I think my dad has been working under my name since he has a copy of my social security card birth certificate. He s been evading child support payments and that would explain it. What should can I do about this? Will this negatively affect my life (such as owing money due to his actions)? According to my mom my dad claims someone else got a hold to it and they ve been working in my name. My dad supposedly has the IRS after him over some $20 000 owe or something. I don t want this to affect me if true. | Not advice but you re not a loser. Your post and your questions are more articulate than 90% of the ones posted here. | Can you come up with some older school records? Like from when you *were* in school? Maybe call the school and ask them if they still have some of that kind of thing on file. And yeah you need to get that thing about your SSN cleared up. That s basically identity theft and it will really hurt you badly. | 151 | 5 |
2nji3y | 110 | Long story short I m a loser trying to get a job for the first time at 23. Tried to apply for the first time for at the DMV my I.D and they turned me down because I don t have anything acceptable. Basically my mom got heavy intro drugs i dropped out of high school and lived with my uncle at around 15-ish years old and literally did nothing until now. 23 years old and i want need a job need my drivers licenses and need my ID. I went to the Louisiana DMV waited in line for 2 hours and got turned down (for my ID) when i tried to present my birth certificate and Social security card. I don t have anything they want. * No pay check stub * No proof bills with my name on it * no school records * no nothing except the cloths I have on. I have 16 + - days to do every thing and im have no idea what to do. Googling the issue brings me to lots of crazy services that want me to pay for normally free things. I hope this is a good place to ask if not is there another subreddit i can try? ***ALSO BONUS QUESTION!*** I think my dad has been working under my name since he has a copy of my social security card birth certificate. He s been evading child support payments and that would explain it. What should can I do about this? Will this negatively affect my life (such as owing money due to his actions)? According to my mom my dad claims someone else got a hold to it and they ve been working in my name. My dad supposedly has the IRS after him over some $20 000 owe or something. I don t want this to affect me if true. | Not advice but you re not a loser. Your post and your questions are more articulate than 90% of the ones posted here. | > Social Security Number verification > 1. Social security card > 2. Official verification of the social security number from the Social Security Administration or verbal verification You need to take your original birth certificate or a **certified** copy of your birth certificate to the Social Security office to obtain a letter verifying that you have a SSN. They will ask you a series of questions that will be in your file that you will have to answer. You said you dropped out of school at 15. You can obtain a reprint (not a copy) of your report card to present at the DMV. Did you ever have your picture taken and placed in a year book? You can use that also. Contact former class mates to see if they have an original you can borrow. | 151 | 7 |
2nji3y | 110 | Long story short I m a loser trying to get a job for the first time at 23. Tried to apply for the first time for at the DMV my I.D and they turned me down because I don t have anything acceptable. Basically my mom got heavy intro drugs i dropped out of high school and lived with my uncle at around 15-ish years old and literally did nothing until now. 23 years old and i want need a job need my drivers licenses and need my ID. I went to the Louisiana DMV waited in line for 2 hours and got turned down (for my ID) when i tried to present my birth certificate and Social security card. I don t have anything they want. * No pay check stub * No proof bills with my name on it * no school records * no nothing except the cloths I have on. I have 16 + - days to do every thing and im have no idea what to do. Googling the issue brings me to lots of crazy services that want me to pay for normally free things. I hope this is a good place to ask if not is there another subreddit i can try? ***ALSO BONUS QUESTION!*** I think my dad has been working under my name since he has a copy of my social security card birth certificate. He s been evading child support payments and that would explain it. What should can I do about this? Will this negatively affect my life (such as owing money due to his actions)? According to my mom my dad claims someone else got a hold to it and they ve been working in my name. My dad supposedly has the IRS after him over some $20 000 owe or something. I don t want this to affect me if true. | Not advice but you re not a loser. Your post and your questions are more articulate than 90% of the ones posted here. | My understand is that to get a LA ID you need 1 primary (your BC) and 2 secondary. The SS card would be one. Can you get a library card? That would count as a secondary ID. Can you get a voter registration card? All you need for that secondary is something official with your name on it. | 151 | 12 |
2nji3y | 110 | Long story short I m a loser trying to get a job for the first time at 23. Tried to apply for the first time for at the DMV my I.D and they turned me down because I don t have anything acceptable. Basically my mom got heavy intro drugs i dropped out of high school and lived with my uncle at around 15-ish years old and literally did nothing until now. 23 years old and i want need a job need my drivers licenses and need my ID. I went to the Louisiana DMV waited in line for 2 hours and got turned down (for my ID) when i tried to present my birth certificate and Social security card. I don t have anything they want. * No pay check stub * No proof bills with my name on it * no school records * no nothing except the cloths I have on. I have 16 + - days to do every thing and im have no idea what to do. Googling the issue brings me to lots of crazy services that want me to pay for normally free things. I hope this is a good place to ask if not is there another subreddit i can try? ***ALSO BONUS QUESTION!*** I think my dad has been working under my name since he has a copy of my social security card birth certificate. He s been evading child support payments and that would explain it. What should can I do about this? Will this negatively affect my life (such as owing money due to his actions)? According to my mom my dad claims someone else got a hold to it and they ve been working in my name. My dad supposedly has the IRS after him over some $20 000 owe or something. I don t want this to affect me if true. | Not advice but you re not a loser. Your post and your questions are more articulate than 90% of the ones posted here. | > I think my dad has been working under my name since he has a copy of my social security card birth certificate. You have a problem if this is happening. Did you contact the SSA to get a copy of your earnings records for the past few years? You can do it online if you can pass the security questions if not you have to either call and ask for a report to be mailed or go to an office. | 151 | 28 |
2npunt | 110 | Neighbor shot my brother s drone doesn t want to pay for it. This is in Central CA in the influence of city limits. So kind of rural. My brother was flying a drone on our parents large property when our neighbor shotgunned it down. We know the drone was above our property because it crashed next to our driveway around 203 feet from the dirt road dividing the neighbor s property from ours. My brother confronted the neighbor and the neighbor said to bill him (verbal). He tallied up the cost of damage and sent him an itemized bill for $700. Over email the neighbor then said he d pay half and requested my brother next time give him the courtesy of letting him know when he s testing surveillance equipment. There was no camera on the drone or the cost would have been an additional $300. My brother responded to the neighbor s offer by pointing out that the drone did not have surveillance equipment and was above our property when it was hit. He also pointed out this is the third time discharge from the neighbor s firearms hit my parents property (he accidentally shot the garage door - and the bullet hole is still there we ve also been rained on by pellets from his skeet shooting). My brother added that he only expects full remuneration for the damaged equipment and that if he were to charge for an entirely new rig the cost would have been $1500. The neighbor responded: Your facts are incorrect. I now consider the matter closed. What are our options? **Update:** Filed a report with a county deputy. It s now up to the DA whether to file felony charges for destruction of property (because the gun that destroyed the drone fired birdshot it s not going to be negligent discharge of a firearm). Will also further pursue in small claims court. | You should also notify the police. It s almost assuredly a crime to discharge a firearm within a certain distance of residential property within the city limits. | You can either accept his offer or sue him. | 61 | 6 |
2nupie | 91 | (New Jersey) Found a dog and kept it for a week and half after looking for the owner. Gave it away and the owner somehow finds us. Demands god back. So I found a dog in front of my house one morning and walked around to see if the owner was near. There was no one near. I took him inside and everyday walked around with him trying to locate the owner nearby. There were no posters or anything looking for the dog after a week and a half. We went to see if he was chipped nothing. So my mom found someone who wanted the dog in Connecticut she drove down and picked up the dog. After the dog was gone a day later we saw the posters. And then the owner of the dog found out where we lived. came demanding her dog. the police got involved and told us to give her the dog back. We are trying to contact the people we gave the dog to but they won t answer the phone. What are the laws with the dog in this situation? update: so we got them both to talk it out and the dog is going back to the original owner all is good. Thanks everyone for the help. | There are many paths to god. This is a question mankind has been grappling with since beyond memory. The nature of the divine and man s relation to it is not a question so easily answered. Tell your neighbor that it is not your place to tell their path to god. They cannot simply demand that you reveal infinite cosmic truths to them. A man s understanding of god is an incredibly personal thing and it s something that must come from their own heart and meditations. Edit: minor typos | Did you contact animal control and place a found dog notice with them? Or did you place any posters of your own? I can t speak for New Jersey but most places require a reasonable effort be made to find the previous owner and walking around the neighborhood looking for posters doesn t usually cut it. | 211 | 22 |
2nupie | 91 | (New Jersey) Found a dog and kept it for a week and half after looking for the owner. Gave it away and the owner somehow finds us. Demands god back. So I found a dog in front of my house one morning and walked around to see if the owner was near. There was no one near. I took him inside and everyday walked around with him trying to locate the owner nearby. There were no posters or anything looking for the dog after a week and a half. We went to see if he was chipped nothing. So my mom found someone who wanted the dog in Connecticut she drove down and picked up the dog. After the dog was gone a day later we saw the posters. And then the owner of the dog found out where we lived. came demanding her dog. the police got involved and told us to give her the dog back. We are trying to contact the people we gave the dog to but they won t answer the phone. What are the laws with the dog in this situation? update: so we got them both to talk it out and the dog is going back to the original owner all is good. Thanks everyone for the help. | There are many paths to god. This is a question mankind has been grappling with since beyond memory. The nature of the divine and man s relation to it is not a question so easily answered. Tell your neighbor that it is not your place to tell their path to god. They cannot simply demand that you reveal infinite cosmic truths to them. A man s understanding of god is an incredibly personal thing and it s something that must come from their own heart and meditations. Edit: minor typos | I would absolutely pass along any all information you have on the woman who took the dog to the police. They can decide what the next step is from there but not cooperating with them further at this point isn t going to be super helpful IMO. | 211 | 47 |
2nupie | 91 | (New Jersey) Found a dog and kept it for a week and half after looking for the owner. Gave it away and the owner somehow finds us. Demands god back. So I found a dog in front of my house one morning and walked around to see if the owner was near. There was no one near. I took him inside and everyday walked around with him trying to locate the owner nearby. There were no posters or anything looking for the dog after a week and a half. We went to see if he was chipped nothing. So my mom found someone who wanted the dog in Connecticut she drove down and picked up the dog. After the dog was gone a day later we saw the posters. And then the owner of the dog found out where we lived. came demanding her dog. the police got involved and told us to give her the dog back. We are trying to contact the people we gave the dog to but they won t answer the phone. What are the laws with the dog in this situation? update: so we got them both to talk it out and the dog is going back to the original owner all is good. Thanks everyone for the help. | There are many paths to god. This is a question mankind has been grappling with since beyond memory. The nature of the divine and man s relation to it is not a question so easily answered. Tell your neighbor that it is not your place to tell their path to god. They cannot simply demand that you reveal infinite cosmic truths to them. A man s understanding of god is an incredibly personal thing and it s something that must come from their own heart and meditations. Edit: minor typos | You gave away someone else s property. The correct course of action would be to take the dog to an animal shelter not give it away to a third party. | 211 | 67 |
2ny9hv | 241 | [Montana] Police got a warrant for the other half of the duplex we live in...but searched our side too. They damaged things but our request for them to pay for replacement has been denied. We live in a duplex. Police got a warrant that was explicitly for the other half of the duplex. The landlord let them into that half...and then let them into our half too. We were out of town for a week and had no idea. We have no connection to the other tenants (they just recently moved in and we ve never met them). They ve never been to our place we ve never been to theirs. The police pretty much destroyed the place. Flipped furniture pulled out drawers and dumped the contents on the floor. They even took all the food out of our fridge left it all randomly strewn across the kitchen and even left the fridge freezer doors open when they left. We came home to find rotting meat and bugs. In the process of their search they broke a number of things. The police station directed us to a form to fill out asking for reimbursement for things that needed to be repaired replaced. Today we have been told that they are denying our claim. What now? Is there anything we can do? Or are we just SOL? | I would contact the local news stations about this. I ve seem stories similar to yours on the news. | Your only remaining recourse will be to sue them. They may be covered by some sort of immunity but that s really impossible for us to tell here. Talk to a civil attorney in your area and see what they think. | 157 | 87 |
2ny9hv | 241 | [Montana] Police got a warrant for the other half of the duplex we live in...but searched our side too. They damaged things but our request for them to pay for replacement has been denied. We live in a duplex. Police got a warrant that was explicitly for the other half of the duplex. The landlord let them into that half...and then let them into our half too. We were out of town for a week and had no idea. We have no connection to the other tenants (they just recently moved in and we ve never met them). They ve never been to our place we ve never been to theirs. The police pretty much destroyed the place. Flipped furniture pulled out drawers and dumped the contents on the floor. They even took all the food out of our fridge left it all randomly strewn across the kitchen and even left the fridge freezer doors open when they left. We came home to find rotting meat and bugs. In the process of their search they broke a number of things. The police station directed us to a form to fill out asking for reimbursement for things that needed to be repaired replaced. Today we have been told that they are denying our claim. What now? Is there anything we can do? Or are we just SOL? | If you have renters homeowners insurance call and talk to your agent. They might be able to go after the police on your behalf. Send your agent copies of the form and the denial. If you have a copy of the warrant send that too. Ask your landlord if they have any documentation (they might have a copy of the warrant). | Contact an attorney. You will probably have to sue them | 92 | 23 |
2ny9hv | 241 | [Montana] Police got a warrant for the other half of the duplex we live in...but searched our side too. They damaged things but our request for them to pay for replacement has been denied. We live in a duplex. Police got a warrant that was explicitly for the other half of the duplex. The landlord let them into that half...and then let them into our half too. We were out of town for a week and had no idea. We have no connection to the other tenants (they just recently moved in and we ve never met them). They ve never been to our place we ve never been to theirs. The police pretty much destroyed the place. Flipped furniture pulled out drawers and dumped the contents on the floor. They even took all the food out of our fridge left it all randomly strewn across the kitchen and even left the fridge freezer doors open when they left. We came home to find rotting meat and bugs. In the process of their search they broke a number of things. The police station directed us to a form to fill out asking for reimbursement for things that needed to be repaired replaced. Today we have been told that they are denying our claim. What now? Is there anything we can do? Or are we just SOL? | If you have renters homeowners insurance call and talk to your agent. They might be able to go after the police on your behalf. Send your agent copies of the form and the denial. If you have a copy of the warrant send that too. Ask your landlord if they have any documentation (they might have a copy of the warrant). | I hope you took lots of pictures before you cleaned up. | 92 | 27 |
2nzg87 | 88 | Landlord said my rent amount was a mistake after I moved in wants me to pay much more. (MN) I went into a landlord office and asked for information on their properties with openings. The woman at the front desk told me they had a 3-bedroom for $600 month. That is an absolute steal in my area so I jumped on it. I signed the lease that day. She wrote $600 into the lease for the rent amount I paid a $600 deposit and $600 for the first month s rent. The lease was supposed to start today but they called me on Saturday and said that no one could meet me today so I could pick up my keys that day and started moving in. I got all moved in over the weekend. Now today someone there has emailed me saying they noticed there was an error and my rate is actually $1340. She said that the employee who I saw before was new and looked at the wrong rate. She told me to drop off a check for $1480 (740 for deposit difference 740 for first month rent difference) today or tomorrow and I can pick up the correct lease. I am not sure if this was an intentional bait and switch or a genuine mistake but either way I cannot afford that rate. From what I m reading online this is grounds for the lease to be canceled. But what I m wondering is is she obligated to let me live here for 600 month? Or can she simply kick me out and cancel the lease? Thanks. | I would play hardball since you have a legal contract for that place for that rate. You moved in and after you moved in they found it . I would say sorry I signed a legal document stating this is said rate. I am already moved in at that rate and I will pay said rate. Sorry for your employees mistake but the contact is signed for the term. | Wait *you* signed the lease but did the landlord agent sign that same lease with the $600 figure too? If so is your lease month to month or does it have a fixed term? | 115 | 14 |
2nzg87 | 88 | Landlord said my rent amount was a mistake after I moved in wants me to pay much more. (MN) I went into a landlord office and asked for information on their properties with openings. The woman at the front desk told me they had a 3-bedroom for $600 month. That is an absolute steal in my area so I jumped on it. I signed the lease that day. She wrote $600 into the lease for the rent amount I paid a $600 deposit and $600 for the first month s rent. The lease was supposed to start today but they called me on Saturday and said that no one could meet me today so I could pick up my keys that day and started moving in. I got all moved in over the weekend. Now today someone there has emailed me saying they noticed there was an error and my rate is actually $1340. She said that the employee who I saw before was new and looked at the wrong rate. She told me to drop off a check for $1480 (740 for deposit difference 740 for first month rent difference) today or tomorrow and I can pick up the correct lease. I am not sure if this was an intentional bait and switch or a genuine mistake but either way I cannot afford that rate. From what I m reading online this is grounds for the lease to be canceled. But what I m wondering is is she obligated to let me live here for 600 month? Or can she simply kick me out and cancel the lease? Thanks. | I would play hardball since you have a legal contract for that place for that rate. You moved in and after you moved in they found it . I would say sorry I signed a legal document stating this is said rate. I am already moved in at that rate and I will pay said rate. Sorry for your employees mistake but the contact is signed for the term. | Is $600 mo unreasonably low for your area or are there similar units for that much? | 115 | 19 |
2nzg87 | 88 | Landlord said my rent amount was a mistake after I moved in wants me to pay much more. (MN) I went into a landlord office and asked for information on their properties with openings. The woman at the front desk told me they had a 3-bedroom for $600 month. That is an absolute steal in my area so I jumped on it. I signed the lease that day. She wrote $600 into the lease for the rent amount I paid a $600 deposit and $600 for the first month s rent. The lease was supposed to start today but they called me on Saturday and said that no one could meet me today so I could pick up my keys that day and started moving in. I got all moved in over the weekend. Now today someone there has emailed me saying they noticed there was an error and my rate is actually $1340. She said that the employee who I saw before was new and looked at the wrong rate. She told me to drop off a check for $1480 (740 for deposit difference 740 for first month rent difference) today or tomorrow and I can pick up the correct lease. I am not sure if this was an intentional bait and switch or a genuine mistake but either way I cannot afford that rate. From what I m reading online this is grounds for the lease to be canceled. But what I m wondering is is she obligated to let me live here for 600 month? Or can she simply kick me out and cancel the lease? Thanks. | I would play hardball since you have a legal contract for that place for that rate. You moved in and after you moved in they found it . I would say sorry I signed a legal document stating this is said rate. I am already moved in at that rate and I will pay said rate. Sorry for your employees mistake but the contact is signed for the term. | Did you get a signed copy of the lease? | 115 | 32 |
2nzg87 | 88 | Landlord said my rent amount was a mistake after I moved in wants me to pay much more. (MN) I went into a landlord office and asked for information on their properties with openings. The woman at the front desk told me they had a 3-bedroom for $600 month. That is an absolute steal in my area so I jumped on it. I signed the lease that day. She wrote $600 into the lease for the rent amount I paid a $600 deposit and $600 for the first month s rent. The lease was supposed to start today but they called me on Saturday and said that no one could meet me today so I could pick up my keys that day and started moving in. I got all moved in over the weekend. Now today someone there has emailed me saying they noticed there was an error and my rate is actually $1340. She said that the employee who I saw before was new and looked at the wrong rate. She told me to drop off a check for $1480 (740 for deposit difference 740 for first month rent difference) today or tomorrow and I can pick up the correct lease. I am not sure if this was an intentional bait and switch or a genuine mistake but either way I cannot afford that rate. From what I m reading online this is grounds for the lease to be canceled. But what I m wondering is is she obligated to let me live here for 600 month? Or can she simply kick me out and cancel the lease? Thanks. | Can you provide updates to this matter as they develop? you have caught my attention. | Wait *you* signed the lease but did the landlord agent sign that same lease with the $600 figure too? If so is your lease month to month or does it have a fixed term? | 73 | 14 |
2nzg87 | 88 | Landlord said my rent amount was a mistake after I moved in wants me to pay much more. (MN) I went into a landlord office and asked for information on their properties with openings. The woman at the front desk told me they had a 3-bedroom for $600 month. That is an absolute steal in my area so I jumped on it. I signed the lease that day. She wrote $600 into the lease for the rent amount I paid a $600 deposit and $600 for the first month s rent. The lease was supposed to start today but they called me on Saturday and said that no one could meet me today so I could pick up my keys that day and started moving in. I got all moved in over the weekend. Now today someone there has emailed me saying they noticed there was an error and my rate is actually $1340. She said that the employee who I saw before was new and looked at the wrong rate. She told me to drop off a check for $1480 (740 for deposit difference 740 for first month rent difference) today or tomorrow and I can pick up the correct lease. I am not sure if this was an intentional bait and switch or a genuine mistake but either way I cannot afford that rate. From what I m reading online this is grounds for the lease to be canceled. But what I m wondering is is she obligated to let me live here for 600 month? Or can she simply kick me out and cancel the lease? Thanks. | Can you provide updates to this matter as they develop? you have caught my attention. | Is $600 mo unreasonably low for your area or are there similar units for that much? | 73 | 19 |
2nzzd1 | 88 | Amazon packages wrongly delivered to my address under a different name. Found owner but a month later won t accept items & instead wants compensation or is threatening police action. Please advise. I live in a NYC apartment building. When packages arrive they sit in the common area. One month ago I noticed about 7 packages from Amazon in that area. After about a week I realized they were to my address and apartment unit. I noticed the name wasn t mine so I looked the owner up on Facebook in an attempt to notify that her packages were left here. After a bit of searching I believe I found the correct owner. I sent her a message notifying her of the packages but knowing Facebook it probably went to the other inbox. The next day all the packages were gone. I assumed she took them or they were returned to the sender. Fast forward a month I receive a knock on the door from my Super. He says he s been keeping packages for me in the basement. Turns out they were the same one. I contacted Amazon in an attempt to return the packages but because I didn t place the order I was told I could not put the return in. So naturally my only choice was to either keep them or throw them away. I opted to hold on to them. Now this part gets a bit convoluted. Later that day after the Super dropped off the packages a friend comes over. I tell him the story. He says oddly enough he thinks he knows the girl and that she lives in his building. It turns out that it was the same girl. My friend returns to his home and gives this girl my number. The girl who ordered the packages messaged me asking for compensation. She does not want the items because they are outside of Amazon s return window. Instead she wants me to pay her for the items or will threaten police action She claims that she never contacted Amazon to report the missing items yet instead placed a new order which she estimates at $500. I m not sure what course to take. She either wants money or is threatening the police. Do I have anything to be worried about? | You are being scammed. Deliberate mis-sent packages. I bet if you looked at them they are worth very little not the $500 she wants you to pay because she didn t report the packages as missing? No one doesn t report missing packages and just re-buy the items. Ask your friend the girl s name. Just change it a bit Instead of Sally maybe Sadie. I bet he agrees with your new made-up name. | Tell her she can deal with them or you ll just mark them return to sender and send them back. She has no reason to get money from you and there s no crime here | 119 | 27 |
2nzzd1 | 88 | Amazon packages wrongly delivered to my address under a different name. Found owner but a month later won t accept items & instead wants compensation or is threatening police action. Please advise. I live in a NYC apartment building. When packages arrive they sit in the common area. One month ago I noticed about 7 packages from Amazon in that area. After about a week I realized they were to my address and apartment unit. I noticed the name wasn t mine so I looked the owner up on Facebook in an attempt to notify that her packages were left here. After a bit of searching I believe I found the correct owner. I sent her a message notifying her of the packages but knowing Facebook it probably went to the other inbox. The next day all the packages were gone. I assumed she took them or they were returned to the sender. Fast forward a month I receive a knock on the door from my Super. He says he s been keeping packages for me in the basement. Turns out they were the same one. I contacted Amazon in an attempt to return the packages but because I didn t place the order I was told I could not put the return in. So naturally my only choice was to either keep them or throw them away. I opted to hold on to them. Now this part gets a bit convoluted. Later that day after the Super dropped off the packages a friend comes over. I tell him the story. He says oddly enough he thinks he knows the girl and that she lives in his building. It turns out that it was the same girl. My friend returns to his home and gives this girl my number. The girl who ordered the packages messaged me asking for compensation. She does not want the items because they are outside of Amazon s return window. Instead she wants me to pay her for the items or will threaten police action She claims that she never contacted Amazon to report the missing items yet instead placed a new order which she estimates at $500. I m not sure what course to take. She either wants money or is threatening the police. Do I have anything to be worried about? | You are being scammed. Deliberate mis-sent packages. I bet if you looked at them they are worth very little not the $500 she wants you to pay because she didn t report the packages as missing? No one doesn t report missing packages and just re-buy the items. Ask your friend the girl s name. Just change it a bit Instead of Sally maybe Sadie. I bet he agrees with your new made-up name. | > I tell him the story. He says oddly enough he thinks he knows the girl and that she lives in his building. It turns out that it was the same girl. My friend returns to his home and gives this girl my number. This smells so fishy BTW. You may not remember exactly but did you bring it up? Or did he ask about any packages? | 119 | 61 |
2o3g9g | 702 | Neighbors stupidly caused themselves to be landlocked. Are we going to be legally required to share our private road? [Here](http: i.imgur.com cTGdIPu.png) is a picture of the land area. State: MN. The vertical gray strip on the left side of the image is the public main road. I own the land in pink. Our private road we use to access it is entirely on our land (surrounded by pink denoted by our road ). It has a locked gate and the sides of our land that are against roads are fenced. We have remotes for it or can open close it from our house. The neighbor used to own the land in blue AND purple but sold the purple land to someone else a couple of weeks ago. They accessed their property by a gravel road on the purple land before but the person who owns it now is planning on getting rid of that gravel road. Apparently when they sold the land they were assuming they could start using our private driveway instead. They didn t actually check with us first. They ve effectively landlocked themselves ultimately. The neighbors want to use our road (denoted in gray) and make a gravel road from our road onto their property in blue that they still own. We have had some heated discussions about it and things went downhill fast. They say that by not giving them access to our private road we are infringing the rights of their property ownership. Now they are threatening to sue us. If they sue is it likely that a judge would require us to let them use our road? Do we need to lawyer up? THanks | Not advice but THANK YOU for bringing a fresh well explained and documented novel issue to this sub and thanks to all the commenters for providing thoughtful responses. Reminds me of the good ol days of this sub. | Are you 100% certain that there s no documented easement? who built the private driveway? Did any former owners of the other property ever use it? I suppose it s possible that a court could rule that an *implied easement by necessity* exists there but it s really impossible to say for sure one way or the other. From Wikipedia (I know I know): > Parcels without access to a public way may have an easement of access over adjacent land if crossing that land is absolutely necessary to reach the landlocked parcel and there has been some original intent to provide the lot with access and the grant was never completed or recorded but is thought to exist. A court order is necessary to determine the existence of an easement by necessity. To obtain this generally the party who claims the easement files a lawsuit and the judge weighs the relative damage caused by enforcing an easement against the servient estate against the damage to the dominant estate if the easement is found not to exist and is thus landlocked. Since your driveway is already a driveway I d guess that a judge could grant them the easement though I don t see why the other gravel road you mentioned wouldn t work for the same purpose. | 436 | 6 |
2o3g9g | 702 | Neighbors stupidly caused themselves to be landlocked. Are we going to be legally required to share our private road? [Here](http: i.imgur.com cTGdIPu.png) is a picture of the land area. State: MN. The vertical gray strip on the left side of the image is the public main road. I own the land in pink. Our private road we use to access it is entirely on our land (surrounded by pink denoted by our road ). It has a locked gate and the sides of our land that are against roads are fenced. We have remotes for it or can open close it from our house. The neighbor used to own the land in blue AND purple but sold the purple land to someone else a couple of weeks ago. They accessed their property by a gravel road on the purple land before but the person who owns it now is planning on getting rid of that gravel road. Apparently when they sold the land they were assuming they could start using our private driveway instead. They didn t actually check with us first. They ve effectively landlocked themselves ultimately. The neighbors want to use our road (denoted in gray) and make a gravel road from our road onto their property in blue that they still own. We have had some heated discussions about it and things went downhill fast. They say that by not giving them access to our private road we are infringing the rights of their property ownership. Now they are threatening to sue us. If they sue is it likely that a judge would require us to let them use our road? Do we need to lawyer up? THanks | Not advice but THANK YOU for bringing a fresh well explained and documented novel issue to this sub and thanks to all the commenters for providing thoughtful responses. Reminds me of the good ol days of this sub. | A judge *could* order you to sell them an easement and determine the price. | 436 | 8 |
2o3g9g | 702 | Neighbors stupidly caused themselves to be landlocked. Are we going to be legally required to share our private road? [Here](http: i.imgur.com cTGdIPu.png) is a picture of the land area. State: MN. The vertical gray strip on the left side of the image is the public main road. I own the land in pink. Our private road we use to access it is entirely on our land (surrounded by pink denoted by our road ). It has a locked gate and the sides of our land that are against roads are fenced. We have remotes for it or can open close it from our house. The neighbor used to own the land in blue AND purple but sold the purple land to someone else a couple of weeks ago. They accessed their property by a gravel road on the purple land before but the person who owns it now is planning on getting rid of that gravel road. Apparently when they sold the land they were assuming they could start using our private driveway instead. They didn t actually check with us first. They ve effectively landlocked themselves ultimately. The neighbors want to use our road (denoted in gray) and make a gravel road from our road onto their property in blue that they still own. We have had some heated discussions about it and things went downhill fast. They say that by not giving them access to our private road we are infringing the rights of their property ownership. Now they are threatening to sue us. If they sue is it likely that a judge would require us to let them use our road? Do we need to lawyer up? THanks | Not advice but THANK YOU for bringing a fresh well explained and documented novel issue to this sub and thanks to all the commenters for providing thoughtful responses. Reminds me of the good ol days of this sub. | Not legal advice but could you offer to sell him a strip of land between pink and purple then it s up to him to build and maintain a driveway? | 436 | 9 |
2o3g9g | 702 | Neighbors stupidly caused themselves to be landlocked. Are we going to be legally required to share our private road? [Here](http: i.imgur.com cTGdIPu.png) is a picture of the land area. State: MN. The vertical gray strip on the left side of the image is the public main road. I own the land in pink. Our private road we use to access it is entirely on our land (surrounded by pink denoted by our road ). It has a locked gate and the sides of our land that are against roads are fenced. We have remotes for it or can open close it from our house. The neighbor used to own the land in blue AND purple but sold the purple land to someone else a couple of weeks ago. They accessed their property by a gravel road on the purple land before but the person who owns it now is planning on getting rid of that gravel road. Apparently when they sold the land they were assuming they could start using our private driveway instead. They didn t actually check with us first. They ve effectively landlocked themselves ultimately. The neighbors want to use our road (denoted in gray) and make a gravel road from our road onto their property in blue that they still own. We have had some heated discussions about it and things went downhill fast. They say that by not giving them access to our private road we are infringing the rights of their property ownership. Now they are threatening to sue us. If they sue is it likely that a judge would require us to let them use our road? Do we need to lawyer up? THanks | Not advice but THANK YOU for bringing a fresh well explained and documented novel issue to this sub and thanks to all the commenters for providing thoughtful responses. Reminds me of the good ol days of this sub. | Lawyer in CA (not MN) but as a general matter what you need to be on the lookout for is an easement by necessity. However given that the sale was recent and the P effectively created his own lack of access I think you have one of two legal recourses in court: 1) Provide the easement but receive fair compensation for maintenance and the reduction of title. 2) Join the other landowner in the suit and demonstrate that continuing use of the prior road makes the most sense. Realistically however consider the limits of litigation. It will be costly to secure a small victory in court. A settlement whereby you come to a mutual agreement will be faster cheaper and avoid the thorny problem of a neighbor who hates you. | 436 | 9 |
2o3g9g | 702 | Neighbors stupidly caused themselves to be landlocked. Are we going to be legally required to share our private road? [Here](http: i.imgur.com cTGdIPu.png) is a picture of the land area. State: MN. The vertical gray strip on the left side of the image is the public main road. I own the land in pink. Our private road we use to access it is entirely on our land (surrounded by pink denoted by our road ). It has a locked gate and the sides of our land that are against roads are fenced. We have remotes for it or can open close it from our house. The neighbor used to own the land in blue AND purple but sold the purple land to someone else a couple of weeks ago. They accessed their property by a gravel road on the purple land before but the person who owns it now is planning on getting rid of that gravel road. Apparently when they sold the land they were assuming they could start using our private driveway instead. They didn t actually check with us first. They ve effectively landlocked themselves ultimately. The neighbors want to use our road (denoted in gray) and make a gravel road from our road onto their property in blue that they still own. We have had some heated discussions about it and things went downhill fast. They say that by not giving them access to our private road we are infringing the rights of their property ownership. Now they are threatening to sue us. If they sue is it likely that a judge would require us to let them use our road? Do we need to lawyer up? THanks | Not advice but THANK YOU for bringing a fresh well explained and documented novel issue to this sub and thanks to all the commenters for providing thoughtful responses. Reminds me of the good ol days of this sub. | OK to add a thing that is nagging at me: If you or one of your predecessors in ownership sold blue the smaller parcel prior to blue s ownership of the purple it s *conceivable* that an easement was created giving blue access to your road. But if that s the case you would have known about it when you bought your parcel. There are other oddball scenarios like this but in order for them to affect you you either had to have knowledge of their creation or they had to be on record at the county courthouse when you bought yours. | 436 | 22 |
2o8tzw | 26 | I was pulled over and busted for marijuana because i matched the description of a white car late at night (2am) that was said to have its lights off by the cops they then asked me why my lights were off I told them My lights were always on because they are automatic I never even touch the swich. I was pulled over and busted for marijuana because i matched the description of a white car late at night (2am) that was said to have its lights off by the cops they then asked me why my lights were off when they were not off I guarantee I told them. My lights were always on because they are automatic I never even touch the swich. I need help. By the way I was at a stop sign facing the road and the driver side cop could clearly see my lights were indeed on. | So they stopped your car which matched the description of a car that committed a traffic violation (presumably) smelled marijuana searched found it and arrested you? Bad news: that is very likely all perfectly legal and will hold up in court. You need a lawyer. | How did this lead to an arrest for marijuana possession? Nothing in the story as you told it is troubling they pulled you over because they thought you were driving with your lights off previously and you don t seem to be claiming that they ever cited you for that. | 76 | 12 |
2oayr2 | 195 | Neighbors sold my dog don t know how to get him back Locale is Texas I have two dogs. One is a puppy I got only a month ago. Recently while I was at work one of my neighbors tree branches fell onto the fence (owned by me) that divides our yards. This is not a surprise the tree is dead and the branch has been hanging on by a thread for a while now. I have told them many times that they should get something done about it before it becomes a problem but they insisted the tree was fine. It wasn t and the fence pretty much became dilapidated. My big dog is trained enough to stay put but the puppy is still a free spirit. According to the neighbors he went over the broken down fence into their yard. They considered this my fault and that I was too irresponsible to keep him in my yard - even though it s their tree (which I warned them was going to fall several times in writing and in person over the last several months) is what broke the fence. When I came home he was nowhere to be found. I looked for him a while and then started knocking on doors asking if anyone had seen him. My neighbor s yard isn t completely fenced so he could have gotten anywhere. The neighbor said they did not see him. However one of their young kids piped up saying yes we did! and ultimately I learned that my neighbor actually SOLD my dog. She posted about him on a pet group on Facebook and I was even able to find her post. She stated in the post that her neighbor can t take care of his dog so she is helping out by finding a new home for him. She sold him for $200 which is a steal for a purebred German Shepherd puppy so she got a ton of offers fast. He was off to a new home by noon from what I can tell by the post. I got the new owner s information based on their Facebook page. I sent a message which they saw but didn t respond to. I then tried calling and eventually I was able to get their address and go to their house. I saw my dog there but they refused to release him to me saying they purchased him fair and square. I tried going to the police but they said it s a civil matter to work out between ourselves. What can I do? I know I could sue my neighbors for the value of the dog but I don t just want $800. I want my actual dog back. | You had a purebred German Shepherd puppy i.e. something worth several hundreds if not over a grand which she stole and sold. That s some fairly serious criminal behavior right there. Take screen shots of her postings document how much the dog is worth and call the police. IANAL but as I read [this](http: www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us SOTWDocs PE htm PE.31.htm) what she did is a felony if your dog is worth 1500$ or more or a class A misdemeanor if it s worth between 500 and 1500$. There is no way in hell a purebred papered GSD puppy is worth less than 500$ and it may well be worth over 1500$ depending on its breeding. Edit: The cops may not have realized how much your puppy is worth so it s probably a good idea to point that out to them and provide the evidence to support it. | I don t understand why the police won t get involved (well I do understand they generally try to stay out of anything that doesn t bring revenue in). The neighbor clearly stole your property and sold it. In my mind it is no different than if they stole and sold your car your bicycle your barbecue grill etc. It was your property they knew it was your property (they even admit it in their ad) and they took it sold it and kept the money for themselves. Go back to the police and file a report (even if the police say they won t do anything insist on filinf a report) then call the state attorney. They will often get involved in a clear crime if the local cops won t because the locals may be corrupt or know the bad guys. | 133 | 9 |
2oayr2 | 195 | Neighbors sold my dog don t know how to get him back Locale is Texas I have two dogs. One is a puppy I got only a month ago. Recently while I was at work one of my neighbors tree branches fell onto the fence (owned by me) that divides our yards. This is not a surprise the tree is dead and the branch has been hanging on by a thread for a while now. I have told them many times that they should get something done about it before it becomes a problem but they insisted the tree was fine. It wasn t and the fence pretty much became dilapidated. My big dog is trained enough to stay put but the puppy is still a free spirit. According to the neighbors he went over the broken down fence into their yard. They considered this my fault and that I was too irresponsible to keep him in my yard - even though it s their tree (which I warned them was going to fall several times in writing and in person over the last several months) is what broke the fence. When I came home he was nowhere to be found. I looked for him a while and then started knocking on doors asking if anyone had seen him. My neighbor s yard isn t completely fenced so he could have gotten anywhere. The neighbor said they did not see him. However one of their young kids piped up saying yes we did! and ultimately I learned that my neighbor actually SOLD my dog. She posted about him on a pet group on Facebook and I was even able to find her post. She stated in the post that her neighbor can t take care of his dog so she is helping out by finding a new home for him. She sold him for $200 which is a steal for a purebred German Shepherd puppy so she got a ton of offers fast. He was off to a new home by noon from what I can tell by the post. I got the new owner s information based on their Facebook page. I sent a message which they saw but didn t respond to. I then tried calling and eventually I was able to get their address and go to their house. I saw my dog there but they refused to release him to me saying they purchased him fair and square. I tried going to the police but they said it s a civil matter to work out between ourselves. What can I do? I know I could sue my neighbors for the value of the dog but I don t just want $800. I want my actual dog back. | You had a purebred German Shepherd puppy i.e. something worth several hundreds if not over a grand which she stole and sold. That s some fairly serious criminal behavior right there. Take screen shots of her postings document how much the dog is worth and call the police. IANAL but as I read [this](http: www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us SOTWDocs PE htm PE.31.htm) what she did is a felony if your dog is worth 1500$ or more or a class A misdemeanor if it s worth between 500 and 1500$. There is no way in hell a purebred papered GSD puppy is worth less than 500$ and it may well be worth over 1500$ depending on its breeding. Edit: The cops may not have realized how much your puppy is worth so it s probably a good idea to point that out to them and provide the evidence to support it. | Dogs are treated as property under the law. If the police won t help you as a stolen property case (because it s illegal to buy and sell stolen property) you can sue in small claims. You might get money as value for the property (though it is a living creature that was part of your family) but it s likely that the a suit will convince the neighbor to try to get the dog back to stay out of court. | 133 | 22 |
2oayr2 | 195 | Neighbors sold my dog don t know how to get him back Locale is Texas I have two dogs. One is a puppy I got only a month ago. Recently while I was at work one of my neighbors tree branches fell onto the fence (owned by me) that divides our yards. This is not a surprise the tree is dead and the branch has been hanging on by a thread for a while now. I have told them many times that they should get something done about it before it becomes a problem but they insisted the tree was fine. It wasn t and the fence pretty much became dilapidated. My big dog is trained enough to stay put but the puppy is still a free spirit. According to the neighbors he went over the broken down fence into their yard. They considered this my fault and that I was too irresponsible to keep him in my yard - even though it s their tree (which I warned them was going to fall several times in writing and in person over the last several months) is what broke the fence. When I came home he was nowhere to be found. I looked for him a while and then started knocking on doors asking if anyone had seen him. My neighbor s yard isn t completely fenced so he could have gotten anywhere. The neighbor said they did not see him. However one of their young kids piped up saying yes we did! and ultimately I learned that my neighbor actually SOLD my dog. She posted about him on a pet group on Facebook and I was even able to find her post. She stated in the post that her neighbor can t take care of his dog so she is helping out by finding a new home for him. She sold him for $200 which is a steal for a purebred German Shepherd puppy so she got a ton of offers fast. He was off to a new home by noon from what I can tell by the post. I got the new owner s information based on their Facebook page. I sent a message which they saw but didn t respond to. I then tried calling and eventually I was able to get their address and go to their house. I saw my dog there but they refused to release him to me saying they purchased him fair and square. I tried going to the police but they said it s a civil matter to work out between ourselves. What can I do? I know I could sue my neighbors for the value of the dog but I don t just want $800. I want my actual dog back. | You had a purebred German Shepherd puppy i.e. something worth several hundreds if not over a grand which she stole and sold. That s some fairly serious criminal behavior right there. Take screen shots of her postings document how much the dog is worth and call the police. IANAL but as I read [this](http: www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us SOTWDocs PE htm PE.31.htm) what she did is a felony if your dog is worth 1500$ or more or a class A misdemeanor if it s worth between 500 and 1500$. There is no way in hell a purebred papered GSD puppy is worth less than 500$ and it may well be worth over 1500$ depending on its breeding. Edit: The cops may not have realized how much your puppy is worth so it s probably a good idea to point that out to them and provide the evidence to support it. | What an awful situation. You should go to the police repeatedly. Be a nuisance while being polite and respectful.was your puppy microchipped? | 133 | 24 |
2oayr2 | 195 | Neighbors sold my dog don t know how to get him back Locale is Texas I have two dogs. One is a puppy I got only a month ago. Recently while I was at work one of my neighbors tree branches fell onto the fence (owned by me) that divides our yards. This is not a surprise the tree is dead and the branch has been hanging on by a thread for a while now. I have told them many times that they should get something done about it before it becomes a problem but they insisted the tree was fine. It wasn t and the fence pretty much became dilapidated. My big dog is trained enough to stay put but the puppy is still a free spirit. According to the neighbors he went over the broken down fence into their yard. They considered this my fault and that I was too irresponsible to keep him in my yard - even though it s their tree (which I warned them was going to fall several times in writing and in person over the last several months) is what broke the fence. When I came home he was nowhere to be found. I looked for him a while and then started knocking on doors asking if anyone had seen him. My neighbor s yard isn t completely fenced so he could have gotten anywhere. The neighbor said they did not see him. However one of their young kids piped up saying yes we did! and ultimately I learned that my neighbor actually SOLD my dog. She posted about him on a pet group on Facebook and I was even able to find her post. She stated in the post that her neighbor can t take care of his dog so she is helping out by finding a new home for him. She sold him for $200 which is a steal for a purebred German Shepherd puppy so she got a ton of offers fast. He was off to a new home by noon from what I can tell by the post. I got the new owner s information based on their Facebook page. I sent a message which they saw but didn t respond to. I then tried calling and eventually I was able to get their address and go to their house. I saw my dog there but they refused to release him to me saying they purchased him fair and square. I tried going to the police but they said it s a civil matter to work out between ourselves. What can I do? I know I could sue my neighbors for the value of the dog but I don t just want $800. I want my actual dog back. | It s not a f ing civil matter it s theft. Especially since she apparently got $200 for the dog. If this really happened get screen shots of everything call the police and report a theft- in many jurisdictions theft of a dog may still be a felony. If reporting it doesn t work go to the magistrate s office and take out charges yourself. Quick check of Texas statutes seems to indicate that theft of a dog is a misdemeanor there as they re base as opposed to horses or cattle but this is still a crime. If the officer you talk to is unwilling to help raise hell and talk to his superior call the DA s office whatever you have to do. This is exactly the stuff they re supposed to be dealing with. You also have civil recourse- for that damage to your fence! | I don t understand why the police won t get involved (well I do understand they generally try to stay out of anything that doesn t bring revenue in). The neighbor clearly stole your property and sold it. In my mind it is no different than if they stole and sold your car your bicycle your barbecue grill etc. It was your property they knew it was your property (they even admit it in their ad) and they took it sold it and kept the money for themselves. Go back to the police and file a report (even if the police say they won t do anything insist on filinf a report) then call the state attorney. They will often get involved in a clear crime if the local cops won t because the locals may be corrupt or know the bad guys. | 115 | 9 |
2oayr2 | 195 | Neighbors sold my dog don t know how to get him back Locale is Texas I have two dogs. One is a puppy I got only a month ago. Recently while I was at work one of my neighbors tree branches fell onto the fence (owned by me) that divides our yards. This is not a surprise the tree is dead and the branch has been hanging on by a thread for a while now. I have told them many times that they should get something done about it before it becomes a problem but they insisted the tree was fine. It wasn t and the fence pretty much became dilapidated. My big dog is trained enough to stay put but the puppy is still a free spirit. According to the neighbors he went over the broken down fence into their yard. They considered this my fault and that I was too irresponsible to keep him in my yard - even though it s their tree (which I warned them was going to fall several times in writing and in person over the last several months) is what broke the fence. When I came home he was nowhere to be found. I looked for him a while and then started knocking on doors asking if anyone had seen him. My neighbor s yard isn t completely fenced so he could have gotten anywhere. The neighbor said they did not see him. However one of their young kids piped up saying yes we did! and ultimately I learned that my neighbor actually SOLD my dog. She posted about him on a pet group on Facebook and I was even able to find her post. She stated in the post that her neighbor can t take care of his dog so she is helping out by finding a new home for him. She sold him for $200 which is a steal for a purebred German Shepherd puppy so she got a ton of offers fast. He was off to a new home by noon from what I can tell by the post. I got the new owner s information based on their Facebook page. I sent a message which they saw but didn t respond to. I then tried calling and eventually I was able to get their address and go to their house. I saw my dog there but they refused to release him to me saying they purchased him fair and square. I tried going to the police but they said it s a civil matter to work out between ourselves. What can I do? I know I could sue my neighbors for the value of the dog but I don t just want $800. I want my actual dog back. | You had a purebred German Shepherd puppy i.e. something worth several hundreds if not over a grand which she stole and sold. That s some fairly serious criminal behavior right there. Take screen shots of her postings document how much the dog is worth and call the police. IANAL but as I read [this](http: www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us SOTWDocs PE htm PE.31.htm) what she did is a felony if your dog is worth 1500$ or more or a class A misdemeanor if it s worth between 500 and 1500$. There is no way in hell a purebred papered GSD puppy is worth less than 500$ and it may well be worth over 1500$ depending on its breeding. Edit: The cops may not have realized how much your puppy is worth so it s probably a good idea to point that out to them and provide the evidence to support it. | You could always sue both the neighbor and the new owner for the return of the dog. | 133 | 30 |
2oblh3 | 27 | Chicago IL US: Nervous about a letter I got from a lawyer not sure if I need to get my own. My 20 year-old son got into legal trouble. My wife and I panicked and got a lawyer for him hoping to get things taken care of as efficiently and quietly as we could. The lawyer negotiated and my son was offered a plea bargain. With the original charges he was facing definite jail time if found guilty with the plea bargain he was looking at a fine and maybe community service depending on the judge. My son did not want to plead guilty because he thinks that if he goes to court he can convince them he is innocent. He admitted to us and the lawyer that he is guilty and we know that there is a good chance there is video evidence of his guilt. At that point the lawyer warned us that this would mean a much longer and more involved case that it would be more expensive and that she did not believe she would be able to fight the charges successfully because of the caliber of the evidence. She warned us to make a decision then about how much money we were willing to put into the situation because if he pled not guilty it could be a lengthy and expensive process. She said if there was going to be a point where we want a cheaper lawyer or my son needs to get his own lawyer we should decide now instead of changing things up in the middle. At this point we decided that we did not want to spend money on what sounded like a losing battle. We told our son that if he wants to fight the charges we will support him emotionally but he needs to start financing his own legal support. Son got upset and has not been speaking to us. Now we received an ominous certified letter from a lawyer my son has apparently hired. That lawyer says that he has reason to believe we have attempted to provide our son a financial incentive to plead guilty to a serious crime and goes on to say that attempting to coerce a defendant toward an outcome is illegal and immoral. The lawyer states that we are being called to a meeting (he gives a date time and location) to discuss the circumstances and severity of this matter. Then he says that his client (our son) seeks to resolve this in a friendly manner without needing to assert legal means. At first glance i thought they are trying to scare us into paying for my son s lawyer. However since I received the letter yesterday it has been bothering me a great deal. Do I need to attend the meeting? Or a bigger question do I need to get my own lawyer to take with me? I can t tell if this is bark or bite. | God your son sounds like an asshole. Sorry he turned out like that since (from your post at least) you sound fairly reasonable. If the lawyer thinks you ve committed a crime he can report you to the police. He can t actually prosecute you himself. In actual fact (and ironically) asking for something under threat of reporting you to the police is *illegal in and of itself* because that s extortion. So feel free to ignore the lawyer probably rethink your relationship with your son and if the lawyer persists contact his Bar Association. [Edit] Tl dr - Yes all (possibly illegal) bark and no bite. | oh dear what a horrible situation. I m so sorry. No help just hugs. I can only imagine how painful this is. I hope someone here will be able to give you some answers. | 66 | 3 |
2odcc5 | 226 | Pussy Licking Trouble - IL So back in 2010 I went to visit my former best friend who was a cam girl. She was hanging out on cam one morning while I was at her house and the guys heard me talking from the background and wanted to see me. Well this is where things got weird. Soon after that they wanted to see us do some girl on girl action. I joked that if they got to 20000 tokens I would eat her out. (This is $1000) I never thought it would happen. It did. Long story short I ate her out on live cam she paid me $500 and never thought anything about it. Well fast forward to now: We have not been friends for a good couple of years. A mutual friend of ours (Well she is not friends with him anymore either) messaged me and told me she is selling the video. What? How can you sell the video if it was a live stream? Sure enough on her website she is selling it. She even advertises it on her Twitter feed. I have no idea how long this has been going on. So my question is ... Is she allowed to sell something that was only to be seen once? What are my options at this point? Even if I can t get her to take it down am I entitled to the money she s making off it? | And the award for Classiest Title of the Year goes to.... To answer your question: Welcome to the Internet where nothing ever goes away. You can sue her in court for a share of the profits or to have it taken down if you want to. But that could be a long and expensive battle. | Lets go for the low-hanging fruit first: were either of you under 18 at the time? | 310 | 38 |
2odcc5 | 226 | Pussy Licking Trouble - IL So back in 2010 I went to visit my former best friend who was a cam girl. She was hanging out on cam one morning while I was at her house and the guys heard me talking from the background and wanted to see me. Well this is where things got weird. Soon after that they wanted to see us do some girl on girl action. I joked that if they got to 20000 tokens I would eat her out. (This is $1000) I never thought it would happen. It did. Long story short I ate her out on live cam she paid me $500 and never thought anything about it. Well fast forward to now: We have not been friends for a good couple of years. A mutual friend of ours (Well she is not friends with him anymore either) messaged me and told me she is selling the video. What? How can you sell the video if it was a live stream? Sure enough on her website she is selling it. She even advertises it on her Twitter feed. I have no idea how long this has been going on. So my question is ... Is she allowed to sell something that was only to be seen once? What are my options at this point? Even if I can t get her to take it down am I entitled to the money she s making off it? | I m sad that I missed this thread until now. Without age verification documentation and a model release she should not be selling this video. However there hasn t been a 2257 prosecution in quite some time so there s virtually zero chance of anything coming from her doing so. My advice would be to talk to her and tell her you are uncomfortable with her selling it or at the very least want to get paid a share of the revenue from it. Perhaps even offer to sign a release and provide age verification documentation in exchange for her paying you some money for your share of the sales. Also just FYI: Some of the cam sites record the streams automatically and the model has no control over what is or is not sold on their pages. That s why it s against the rules to have third parties come on cam without signing paperwork. I m actually surprised she wasn t booted off the site she broadcasts on for doing this. | Am I the only one who is upset there isn t some strange cat story here? Although thanks OP for the most interesting thread on r legaladvice today! | 55 | 2 |
2ogoqs | 35 | A local Texas paper tweeted my name and Picture for their Fugitive Friday when I was already in police custody the day before. I was arrested on a Thursday because of a warrant. On Friday the local paper tweeted my name and picture claiming that I was a fugitive. I was already in jail the day before and clearly not a fugitive. On top of that the paper claimed that I was charged with burglary of a habitation when I was actually charged with burglary of a building. That picture soon spread to everyone I know and now everyone thinks I broke into somebodies house and that I m a fugitive. I am telling you guys this because I was wondering if there was anyway to legally get them to remove the post because what they said was untrue. Thanks for any help in advance. | People are being judgmental and not answering your question. I think that yes you re correct when you say that charged with burglary of a building is different than burglary of a habitation. Maybe you should think in terms of libel. It was written that you were a fugitive on friday and the charge is wrong as well. I m not sure it would cause damage to your reputation that you were a fugitive on friday because you were *arrested* instead of handling your warrant ahead of time. However.... I think you might be right that printing the wrong charge could damage your reputation. I don t know why you were charged with burglarizing a building--I don t know if what you were doing was minor or huge but I agree it is not the same as burglarizing a home. If you *are* a criminal and the burglarization of a home isn t your first offense or it isn t a minor offense then I m not sure that printing the wrong charge will damage your reputation. And also you should definitely ask the paper for a correction notice. Happy reddit-birthday. I hope you re not writing us from jail! | > That picture soon spread to everyone I know and now everyone thinks I broke into somebodies house and that I m a fugitive. In actuality you *were* a fugitive (but not any longer) and you broke into a building but it wasn t someone s home.... Is that your argument here? If you contact them I m sure they d be willing to correct the tweet to what you were actually charged with and let the public know that you are no longer wanted. | 68 | 6 |
2ogoqs | 35 | A local Texas paper tweeted my name and Picture for their Fugitive Friday when I was already in police custody the day before. I was arrested on a Thursday because of a warrant. On Friday the local paper tweeted my name and picture claiming that I was a fugitive. I was already in jail the day before and clearly not a fugitive. On top of that the paper claimed that I was charged with burglary of a habitation when I was actually charged with burglary of a building. That picture soon spread to everyone I know and now everyone thinks I broke into somebodies house and that I m a fugitive. I am telling you guys this because I was wondering if there was anyway to legally get them to remove the post because what they said was untrue. Thanks for any help in advance. | People are being judgmental and not answering your question. I think that yes you re correct when you say that charged with burglary of a building is different than burglary of a habitation. Maybe you should think in terms of libel. It was written that you were a fugitive on friday and the charge is wrong as well. I m not sure it would cause damage to your reputation that you were a fugitive on friday because you were *arrested* instead of handling your warrant ahead of time. However.... I think you might be right that printing the wrong charge could damage your reputation. I don t know why you were charged with burglarizing a building--I don t know if what you were doing was minor or huge but I agree it is not the same as burglarizing a home. If you *are* a criminal and the burglarization of a home isn t your first offense or it isn t a minor offense then I m not sure that printing the wrong charge will damage your reputation. And also you should definitely ask the paper for a correction notice. Happy reddit-birthday. I hope you re not writing us from jail! | Aren t you kinda splitting hairs here? You could probably request the paper publish a correction but there s really no more or less honor in burgling a building vs. a residence or being arrested on a warrant vs. in flight. Keeping in mind the fact that you were arrested on a Thursday might not have been released before they went to press on a Friday so you might would get just a correction on the building type. Finally it sounds like you re bothered this went into the paper at all. By requesting a correction you re going to appear in there twice. | 68 | 7 |
2oiltz | 40 | I sell GlitterPills I have disclaimers everywhere. Am I covering all my bases? Hi I sell Glitter pills on etsy and have recently had a lot of orders. I have disclaimers all over the site and sent out disclaimers with the products. My question is simple do the disclaimers protect me from a potential lawsuit? | For those who are wondering glitter pills are pills filled with glitter. Apparently they are supposed to make your poop sparkle. No I am not making this up. To the OP: The general rule is that if you sell a product and you know that people are going to misuse your product then you can in theory be held liable for any injuries that result from that foreseeable misuse. So if you sell these pills and you know perfectly well that people are going to swallow them and someone who swallows those pills is injured then yes you can be sued. And unlike most sellers you won t even have the excuse that your product has a reasonable intended use because it doesn t. No one want to buy glitter pills just to keep them around and say ooh shiny! and you know it. And if you are sued it will be expensive and it will waste a lot of your time even if you eventually win. | There. And I had to google this. | 100 | 5 |
2oiltz | 40 | I sell GlitterPills I have disclaimers everywhere. Am I covering all my bases? Hi I sell Glitter pills on etsy and have recently had a lot of orders. I have disclaimers all over the site and sent out disclaimers with the products. My question is simple do the disclaimers protect me from a potential lawsuit? | For those who are wondering glitter pills are pills filled with glitter. Apparently they are supposed to make your poop sparkle. No I am not making this up. To the OP: The general rule is that if you sell a product and you know that people are going to misuse your product then you can in theory be held liable for any injuries that result from that foreseeable misuse. So if you sell these pills and you know perfectly well that people are going to swallow them and someone who swallows those pills is injured then yes you can be sued. And unlike most sellers you won t even have the excuse that your product has a reasonable intended use because it doesn t. No one want to buy glitter pills just to keep them around and say ooh shiny! and you know it. And if you are sued it will be expensive and it will waste a lot of your time even if you eventually win. | You can be sued for anything. If someone actually took these pills and thinks they were harmed by them they could sue you absolutely. You don t have to be right to sue -- you have to have a dispute with another party that you want the courts to settle. Both parties incur costs. You would incur costs defending yourself if you were sued. There is no amount of warning labels that will stop someone from suing you if they think they have a case. | 100 | 11 |
2olgnt | 505 | My neighbor admitted to getting my car insurance canceled to teach me a lesson. I sometimes come home late at night. I pull into the driveway open my garage door drive into the garage shut the garage door go into my house. Fairly reasonable behavior. My neighbor began telling me about 6 months ago that this causes unnecessary stress for her. She says that the noise of my garage door wakes her up and that she feels extreme anxiety at the thought of me driving late at night. She says she knows that the only reason I come home late is because I have been drinking and she fears for her safety when I drink then drive home and am around her home. (For the record I do not drive drunk. Usually I am hanging out with friends seeing a movie bowling or whatever. I seldom come home later than midnight.) She insists that my coming home late at night is a sign of dangerous behavior and that she is concerned for her family s safety. I insist that she s nuts. She took nuts to a whole new level. I recently paid for 6 months of insurance by mailing a check and after two weeks they still hadn t cashed the check. I called my insurance and learned that they had never received it. We determined the check must have gotten lost in the mail. We got it worked out I called the bank and canceled the check just in case. I was driving to work this morning when I was pulled over. The officer asked for my proof of insurance. When he saw I did have insurance he apologized and said I could go. I asked why he just wanted to know about my insurance and he said a concerned citizen called and said I was driving without insurance. It seemed very strange. I decided to go back home and call my insurance agency just to make sure there were no issues with my insurance out of paranoia. I pulled into the driveway and my neighbor came outside. She asked How did you like your ticket? She said that she overheard me talking to my sister in my back yard and I said something like thanks for the reminder I need to mail in my insurance payment tomorrow. My neighbor admitted that she searched my mail box after I left for work the next day and removed the payment I was mailing to my insurance so that they wouldn t receive it and my insurance would be canceled. She waited until enough time passed that it would have been canceled and then called the police. She even admitted to searching my mailbox every day right after the mail came in case the insurance company sent me a letter about the missed payment Then she said that she was doing what she had to do to teach me a lesson about driving safely and she hopes all the fines I have to pay will make me think twice about dangerous habits. I know that I don t technically have any damages here because I caught it before they canceled my insurance and I haven t lost any money or anything...but this is incredibly unnerving and I am highly uncomfortable with the situation. I plan to fill out a police report in the morning. I am wondering whether there are any other legal steps I can take against my neighbor for these actions. My state is Nebraska if it helps. Thank you. | Contact the postal inspectors immediately. She has made a huge mistake. Like a Federal prison mistake. Don t have any further contact with you if you can avoid it. Don t tell her you reported her to the postal police. edit: you also may want to send your mail using a locked mailbox and change your address to a po box. I know it s a pain but tax season is coming up and you don t want her getting your W2s and other tax forms. edit2: May also want to get a new bank account number. She knows it if she stole your check. | Well if she s going into your mailbox that s a crime. http: www.law.cornell.edu uscode text 18 1708 I don t know what the police will do but I definitely would report this to USPS http: answers.usa.gov system templates selfservice USAGov #!portal 1012 article 4338 Report-Mail-Theft-Tampering-or-the-Destruction-of-Mail-or-Mailboxes This is nuts. She is nuts. | 452 | 221 |
2olgnt | 505 | My neighbor admitted to getting my car insurance canceled to teach me a lesson. I sometimes come home late at night. I pull into the driveway open my garage door drive into the garage shut the garage door go into my house. Fairly reasonable behavior. My neighbor began telling me about 6 months ago that this causes unnecessary stress for her. She says that the noise of my garage door wakes her up and that she feels extreme anxiety at the thought of me driving late at night. She says she knows that the only reason I come home late is because I have been drinking and she fears for her safety when I drink then drive home and am around her home. (For the record I do not drive drunk. Usually I am hanging out with friends seeing a movie bowling or whatever. I seldom come home later than midnight.) She insists that my coming home late at night is a sign of dangerous behavior and that she is concerned for her family s safety. I insist that she s nuts. She took nuts to a whole new level. I recently paid for 6 months of insurance by mailing a check and after two weeks they still hadn t cashed the check. I called my insurance and learned that they had never received it. We determined the check must have gotten lost in the mail. We got it worked out I called the bank and canceled the check just in case. I was driving to work this morning when I was pulled over. The officer asked for my proof of insurance. When he saw I did have insurance he apologized and said I could go. I asked why he just wanted to know about my insurance and he said a concerned citizen called and said I was driving without insurance. It seemed very strange. I decided to go back home and call my insurance agency just to make sure there were no issues with my insurance out of paranoia. I pulled into the driveway and my neighbor came outside. She asked How did you like your ticket? She said that she overheard me talking to my sister in my back yard and I said something like thanks for the reminder I need to mail in my insurance payment tomorrow. My neighbor admitted that she searched my mail box after I left for work the next day and removed the payment I was mailing to my insurance so that they wouldn t receive it and my insurance would be canceled. She waited until enough time passed that it would have been canceled and then called the police. She even admitted to searching my mailbox every day right after the mail came in case the insurance company sent me a letter about the missed payment Then she said that she was doing what she had to do to teach me a lesson about driving safely and she hopes all the fines I have to pay will make me think twice about dangerous habits. I know that I don t technically have any damages here because I caught it before they canceled my insurance and I haven t lost any money or anything...but this is incredibly unnerving and I am highly uncomfortable with the situation. I plan to fill out a police report in the morning. I am wondering whether there are any other legal steps I can take against my neighbor for these actions. My state is Nebraska if it helps. Thank you. | Do not take this lightly. This kind of psycho can actually cause quite a bit of damage. What happens if she decides to say report you for touching her kids to teach you a lesson or because you re a threat to her kids. Report her to the police and postal office. Put up cameras outside your house to record any of her misdeeds. Get a restraining order against her. Document absolutely everything. Remember that you re dealing with someone is mentally unstable and extremely dangerous. | Yeah you should probably call the police like now. | 191 | 5 |
2olgnt | 505 | My neighbor admitted to getting my car insurance canceled to teach me a lesson. I sometimes come home late at night. I pull into the driveway open my garage door drive into the garage shut the garage door go into my house. Fairly reasonable behavior. My neighbor began telling me about 6 months ago that this causes unnecessary stress for her. She says that the noise of my garage door wakes her up and that she feels extreme anxiety at the thought of me driving late at night. She says she knows that the only reason I come home late is because I have been drinking and she fears for her safety when I drink then drive home and am around her home. (For the record I do not drive drunk. Usually I am hanging out with friends seeing a movie bowling or whatever. I seldom come home later than midnight.) She insists that my coming home late at night is a sign of dangerous behavior and that she is concerned for her family s safety. I insist that she s nuts. She took nuts to a whole new level. I recently paid for 6 months of insurance by mailing a check and after two weeks they still hadn t cashed the check. I called my insurance and learned that they had never received it. We determined the check must have gotten lost in the mail. We got it worked out I called the bank and canceled the check just in case. I was driving to work this morning when I was pulled over. The officer asked for my proof of insurance. When he saw I did have insurance he apologized and said I could go. I asked why he just wanted to know about my insurance and he said a concerned citizen called and said I was driving without insurance. It seemed very strange. I decided to go back home and call my insurance agency just to make sure there were no issues with my insurance out of paranoia. I pulled into the driveway and my neighbor came outside. She asked How did you like your ticket? She said that she overheard me talking to my sister in my back yard and I said something like thanks for the reminder I need to mail in my insurance payment tomorrow. My neighbor admitted that she searched my mail box after I left for work the next day and removed the payment I was mailing to my insurance so that they wouldn t receive it and my insurance would be canceled. She waited until enough time passed that it would have been canceled and then called the police. She even admitted to searching my mailbox every day right after the mail came in case the insurance company sent me a letter about the missed payment Then she said that she was doing what she had to do to teach me a lesson about driving safely and she hopes all the fines I have to pay will make me think twice about dangerous habits. I know that I don t technically have any damages here because I caught it before they canceled my insurance and I haven t lost any money or anything...but this is incredibly unnerving and I am highly uncomfortable with the situation. I plan to fill out a police report in the morning. I am wondering whether there are any other legal steps I can take against my neighbor for these actions. My state is Nebraska if it helps. Thank you. | Do not take this lightly. This kind of psycho can actually cause quite a bit of damage. What happens if she decides to say report you for touching her kids to teach you a lesson or because you re a threat to her kids. Report her to the police and postal office. Put up cameras outside your house to record any of her misdeeds. Get a restraining order against her. Document absolutely everything. Remember that you re dealing with someone is mentally unstable and extremely dangerous. | What a loon! Definitely notify the postmaster about the mail tampering and look into getting a P.O. box and a new bank account. You also might want to talk to an attorney about getting a restraining order against your neighbor. She sounds seriously unhinged and it would not surprise me at all if she starts to escalate this behavior. | 191 | 8 |
2olgnt | 505 | My neighbor admitted to getting my car insurance canceled to teach me a lesson. I sometimes come home late at night. I pull into the driveway open my garage door drive into the garage shut the garage door go into my house. Fairly reasonable behavior. My neighbor began telling me about 6 months ago that this causes unnecessary stress for her. She says that the noise of my garage door wakes her up and that she feels extreme anxiety at the thought of me driving late at night. She says she knows that the only reason I come home late is because I have been drinking and she fears for her safety when I drink then drive home and am around her home. (For the record I do not drive drunk. Usually I am hanging out with friends seeing a movie bowling or whatever. I seldom come home later than midnight.) She insists that my coming home late at night is a sign of dangerous behavior and that she is concerned for her family s safety. I insist that she s nuts. She took nuts to a whole new level. I recently paid for 6 months of insurance by mailing a check and after two weeks they still hadn t cashed the check. I called my insurance and learned that they had never received it. We determined the check must have gotten lost in the mail. We got it worked out I called the bank and canceled the check just in case. I was driving to work this morning when I was pulled over. The officer asked for my proof of insurance. When he saw I did have insurance he apologized and said I could go. I asked why he just wanted to know about my insurance and he said a concerned citizen called and said I was driving without insurance. It seemed very strange. I decided to go back home and call my insurance agency just to make sure there were no issues with my insurance out of paranoia. I pulled into the driveway and my neighbor came outside. She asked How did you like your ticket? She said that she overheard me talking to my sister in my back yard and I said something like thanks for the reminder I need to mail in my insurance payment tomorrow. My neighbor admitted that she searched my mail box after I left for work the next day and removed the payment I was mailing to my insurance so that they wouldn t receive it and my insurance would be canceled. She waited until enough time passed that it would have been canceled and then called the police. She even admitted to searching my mailbox every day right after the mail came in case the insurance company sent me a letter about the missed payment Then she said that she was doing what she had to do to teach me a lesson about driving safely and she hopes all the fines I have to pay will make me think twice about dangerous habits. I know that I don t technically have any damages here because I caught it before they canceled my insurance and I haven t lost any money or anything...but this is incredibly unnerving and I am highly uncomfortable with the situation. I plan to fill out a police report in the morning. I am wondering whether there are any other legal steps I can take against my neighbor for these actions. My state is Nebraska if it helps. Thank you. | Do not take this lightly. This kind of psycho can actually cause quite a bit of damage. What happens if she decides to say report you for touching her kids to teach you a lesson or because you re a threat to her kids. Report her to the police and postal office. Put up cameras outside your house to record any of her misdeeds. Get a restraining order against her. Document absolutely everything. Remember that you re dealing with someone is mentally unstable and extremely dangerous. | She s committed a whole bunch of crimes. Including a couple of felonies. | 191 | 12 |
2olgnt | 505 | My neighbor admitted to getting my car insurance canceled to teach me a lesson. I sometimes come home late at night. I pull into the driveway open my garage door drive into the garage shut the garage door go into my house. Fairly reasonable behavior. My neighbor began telling me about 6 months ago that this causes unnecessary stress for her. She says that the noise of my garage door wakes her up and that she feels extreme anxiety at the thought of me driving late at night. She says she knows that the only reason I come home late is because I have been drinking and she fears for her safety when I drink then drive home and am around her home. (For the record I do not drive drunk. Usually I am hanging out with friends seeing a movie bowling or whatever. I seldom come home later than midnight.) She insists that my coming home late at night is a sign of dangerous behavior and that she is concerned for her family s safety. I insist that she s nuts. She took nuts to a whole new level. I recently paid for 6 months of insurance by mailing a check and after two weeks they still hadn t cashed the check. I called my insurance and learned that they had never received it. We determined the check must have gotten lost in the mail. We got it worked out I called the bank and canceled the check just in case. I was driving to work this morning when I was pulled over. The officer asked for my proof of insurance. When he saw I did have insurance he apologized and said I could go. I asked why he just wanted to know about my insurance and he said a concerned citizen called and said I was driving without insurance. It seemed very strange. I decided to go back home and call my insurance agency just to make sure there were no issues with my insurance out of paranoia. I pulled into the driveway and my neighbor came outside. She asked How did you like your ticket? She said that she overheard me talking to my sister in my back yard and I said something like thanks for the reminder I need to mail in my insurance payment tomorrow. My neighbor admitted that she searched my mail box after I left for work the next day and removed the payment I was mailing to my insurance so that they wouldn t receive it and my insurance would be canceled. She waited until enough time passed that it would have been canceled and then called the police. She even admitted to searching my mailbox every day right after the mail came in case the insurance company sent me a letter about the missed payment Then she said that she was doing what she had to do to teach me a lesson about driving safely and she hopes all the fines I have to pay will make me think twice about dangerous habits. I know that I don t technically have any damages here because I caught it before they canceled my insurance and I haven t lost any money or anything...but this is incredibly unnerving and I am highly uncomfortable with the situation. I plan to fill out a police report in the morning. I am wondering whether there are any other legal steps I can take against my neighbor for these actions. My state is Nebraska if it helps. Thank you. | Do not take this lightly. This kind of psycho can actually cause quite a bit of damage. What happens if she decides to say report you for touching her kids to teach you a lesson or because you re a threat to her kids. Report her to the police and postal office. Put up cameras outside your house to record any of her misdeeds. Get a restraining order against her. Document absolutely everything. Remember that you re dealing with someone is mentally unstable and extremely dangerous. | Have you considered paying your bill online? That s one non-legal solution that would alleviate the need to leave checks in your mailbox. | 191 | 27 |
2onjvf | 316 | My neighbor s children are using a ladder to get to my pool and their parents won t do anything about it. I live in California. Hello While preparing to move into my house I had an 8 wood fence put up around my yard. Shortly after moving in I found my neighbors kids in my yard using my pool. I went and talked to their parents. They said the previous owners let the kids use the pool whenever they wanted and they assumed I would do the same. I explained that was not the case and the children should not come over to my yard uninvited. I assumed the matter was closed. Then I found them in my yard again the next day they pushed something over to stand on to get to the lock. Talked to the parents again. Moved the lock up higher where they couldn t reach it until I could get a different lock. Found them in my yard again. Talked to the parents again. Installed a keypad lock. Sent them a certified letter and posted No Tresspassing signs all over. I filled out a report with the police. Yet again I found them in my yard. They had used a ladder to get over to my yard then realized once they were in my yard they were stuck. I made their parents come get them and again reiterated to everyone that this was unacceptable. I filed a second report with the police and a police officer went over and talked to the parents and the kids. This morning I was leaving for work and found the kids AGAIN using a ladder to get into my yard. What actions can I take here? I cannot think of any way to prevent the kids from using a ladder to get into my yard except for ways that would be dangerous and would leave me liable if they were injured. I built a bigger fence I got a better lock...and this is still happening. No amount of talking to the parents helps. They say kids will be kids laugh at their kids determination etc. Apparently they were not phased by the police officer. Does anyone have any suggestions of legal remedies for this? Should I be trying to sue or something? Thanks. | I ll echo the keep calling the police mantra. Ask for trespassing to be charged against the kids. If they break anything on the property then that s vandalism to report. Maybe it ll be less funny to the neighbors when their kids start to get juvenile records. Video surveillance to a DVR would be a good idea. That way you don t actually have to catch them in the act to report it and you have good proof. Can you get a pool-cover that you can lock down? Maybe something motorized that wouldn t make it too difficult to enjoy your pool yourself. If the kids can t get into the pool then they ll hopefully stop trying to and or if they break the lock cover then they could get charged with vandalism and you could sue the parents in civil or small claims court for the cost of the damage. | Keep calling the police every time you catch them. | 108 | 10 |
2onjvf | 316 | My neighbor s children are using a ladder to get to my pool and their parents won t do anything about it. I live in California. Hello While preparing to move into my house I had an 8 wood fence put up around my yard. Shortly after moving in I found my neighbors kids in my yard using my pool. I went and talked to their parents. They said the previous owners let the kids use the pool whenever they wanted and they assumed I would do the same. I explained that was not the case and the children should not come over to my yard uninvited. I assumed the matter was closed. Then I found them in my yard again the next day they pushed something over to stand on to get to the lock. Talked to the parents again. Moved the lock up higher where they couldn t reach it until I could get a different lock. Found them in my yard again. Talked to the parents again. Installed a keypad lock. Sent them a certified letter and posted No Tresspassing signs all over. I filled out a report with the police. Yet again I found them in my yard. They had used a ladder to get over to my yard then realized once they were in my yard they were stuck. I made their parents come get them and again reiterated to everyone that this was unacceptable. I filed a second report with the police and a police officer went over and talked to the parents and the kids. This morning I was leaving for work and found the kids AGAIN using a ladder to get into my yard. What actions can I take here? I cannot think of any way to prevent the kids from using a ladder to get into my yard except for ways that would be dangerous and would leave me liable if they were injured. I built a bigger fence I got a better lock...and this is still happening. No amount of talking to the parents helps. They say kids will be kids laugh at their kids determination etc. Apparently they were not phased by the police officer. Does anyone have any suggestions of legal remedies for this? Should I be trying to sue or something? Thanks. | I ll echo the keep calling the police mantra. Ask for trespassing to be charged against the kids. If they break anything on the property then that s vandalism to report. Maybe it ll be less funny to the neighbors when their kids start to get juvenile records. Video surveillance to a DVR would be a good idea. That way you don t actually have to catch them in the act to report it and you have good proof. Can you get a pool-cover that you can lock down? Maybe something motorized that wouldn t make it too difficult to enjoy your pool yourself. If the kids can t get into the pool then they ll hopefully stop trying to and or if they break the lock cover then they could get charged with vandalism and you could sue the parents in civil or small claims court for the cost of the damage. | I m inclined to tell you in addition to what others have told you here (call the police every time CPS etc.) to consider putting a video camera of some sort back there to document evidence but I m *not* actually sure that you wouldn t be breaking some sort of law by doing that since they re minors. I *doubt* that you would be but I m not sure maybe a CA attorney can weigh in on this. | 108 | 10 |
2onjvf | 316 | My neighbor s children are using a ladder to get to my pool and their parents won t do anything about it. I live in California. Hello While preparing to move into my house I had an 8 wood fence put up around my yard. Shortly after moving in I found my neighbors kids in my yard using my pool. I went and talked to their parents. They said the previous owners let the kids use the pool whenever they wanted and they assumed I would do the same. I explained that was not the case and the children should not come over to my yard uninvited. I assumed the matter was closed. Then I found them in my yard again the next day they pushed something over to stand on to get to the lock. Talked to the parents again. Moved the lock up higher where they couldn t reach it until I could get a different lock. Found them in my yard again. Talked to the parents again. Installed a keypad lock. Sent them a certified letter and posted No Tresspassing signs all over. I filled out a report with the police. Yet again I found them in my yard. They had used a ladder to get over to my yard then realized once they were in my yard they were stuck. I made their parents come get them and again reiterated to everyone that this was unacceptable. I filed a second report with the police and a police officer went over and talked to the parents and the kids. This morning I was leaving for work and found the kids AGAIN using a ladder to get into my yard. What actions can I take here? I cannot think of any way to prevent the kids from using a ladder to get into my yard except for ways that would be dangerous and would leave me liable if they were injured. I built a bigger fence I got a better lock...and this is still happening. No amount of talking to the parents helps. They say kids will be kids laugh at their kids determination etc. Apparently they were not phased by the police officer. Does anyone have any suggestions of legal remedies for this? Should I be trying to sue or something? Thanks. | I ll echo the keep calling the police mantra. Ask for trespassing to be charged against the kids. If they break anything on the property then that s vandalism to report. Maybe it ll be less funny to the neighbors when their kids start to get juvenile records. Video surveillance to a DVR would be a good idea. That way you don t actually have to catch them in the act to report it and you have good proof. Can you get a pool-cover that you can lock down? Maybe something motorized that wouldn t make it too difficult to enjoy your pool yourself. If the kids can t get into the pool then they ll hopefully stop trying to and or if they break the lock cover then they could get charged with vandalism and you could sue the parents in civil or small claims court for the cost of the damage. | Maybe a civil trespass suit would get their attention. | 108 | 12 |
2onjvf | 316 | My neighbor s children are using a ladder to get to my pool and their parents won t do anything about it. I live in California. Hello While preparing to move into my house I had an 8 wood fence put up around my yard. Shortly after moving in I found my neighbors kids in my yard using my pool. I went and talked to their parents. They said the previous owners let the kids use the pool whenever they wanted and they assumed I would do the same. I explained that was not the case and the children should not come over to my yard uninvited. I assumed the matter was closed. Then I found them in my yard again the next day they pushed something over to stand on to get to the lock. Talked to the parents again. Moved the lock up higher where they couldn t reach it until I could get a different lock. Found them in my yard again. Talked to the parents again. Installed a keypad lock. Sent them a certified letter and posted No Tresspassing signs all over. I filled out a report with the police. Yet again I found them in my yard. They had used a ladder to get over to my yard then realized once they were in my yard they were stuck. I made their parents come get them and again reiterated to everyone that this was unacceptable. I filed a second report with the police and a police officer went over and talked to the parents and the kids. This morning I was leaving for work and found the kids AGAIN using a ladder to get into my yard. What actions can I take here? I cannot think of any way to prevent the kids from using a ladder to get into my yard except for ways that would be dangerous and would leave me liable if they were injured. I built a bigger fence I got a better lock...and this is still happening. No amount of talking to the parents helps. They say kids will be kids laugh at their kids determination etc. Apparently they were not phased by the police officer. Does anyone have any suggestions of legal remedies for this? Should I be trying to sue or something? Thanks. | Police. Every time. Next: CPS. Parents are being negligent in their supervision of the kids. They are also contributing to the delinquency of a minor which in CA includes failing to supervise your kids and keep them from preventing crimes (in this case trespassing). There is a certain subset of parents who laugh off the police because they don t understand that they themselves can be guilty of negligently supervising their kids. Nobody laughs off CPS. | Continue to involve the police. Every. Single. Time. Keep the police reports and show them to the responding officer that this is a recurring problem. At some point the police will take them to juvenile detention. I would HOPE that would deter the children. | 244 | 153 |
2onjvf | 316 | My neighbor s children are using a ladder to get to my pool and their parents won t do anything about it. I live in California. Hello While preparing to move into my house I had an 8 wood fence put up around my yard. Shortly after moving in I found my neighbors kids in my yard using my pool. I went and talked to their parents. They said the previous owners let the kids use the pool whenever they wanted and they assumed I would do the same. I explained that was not the case and the children should not come over to my yard uninvited. I assumed the matter was closed. Then I found them in my yard again the next day they pushed something over to stand on to get to the lock. Talked to the parents again. Moved the lock up higher where they couldn t reach it until I could get a different lock. Found them in my yard again. Talked to the parents again. Installed a keypad lock. Sent them a certified letter and posted No Tresspassing signs all over. I filled out a report with the police. Yet again I found them in my yard. They had used a ladder to get over to my yard then realized once they were in my yard they were stuck. I made their parents come get them and again reiterated to everyone that this was unacceptable. I filed a second report with the police and a police officer went over and talked to the parents and the kids. This morning I was leaving for work and found the kids AGAIN using a ladder to get into my yard. What actions can I take here? I cannot think of any way to prevent the kids from using a ladder to get into my yard except for ways that would be dangerous and would leave me liable if they were injured. I built a bigger fence I got a better lock...and this is still happening. No amount of talking to the parents helps. They say kids will be kids laugh at their kids determination etc. Apparently they were not phased by the police officer. Does anyone have any suggestions of legal remedies for this? Should I be trying to sue or something? Thanks. | I ll echo the keep calling the police mantra. Ask for trespassing to be charged against the kids. If they break anything on the property then that s vandalism to report. Maybe it ll be less funny to the neighbors when their kids start to get juvenile records. Video surveillance to a DVR would be a good idea. That way you don t actually have to catch them in the act to report it and you have good proof. Can you get a pool-cover that you can lock down? Maybe something motorized that wouldn t make it too difficult to enjoy your pool yourself. If the kids can t get into the pool then they ll hopefully stop trying to and or if they break the lock cover then they could get charged with vandalism and you could sue the parents in civil or small claims court for the cost of the damage. | Please OP keep us updated. I m extremely interested in how this matter gets resolved. | 108 | 27 |
2ooq9f | 138 | My landlord assumed I abandoned my apartment and sold my stuff. He said he d reimburse me but changed his mind when I told him the value of the stuff is $28k. My new lease started on 12 1 my old lease doesn t end until 12 15. I work until 6 every day so I have just been moving a car load of stuff each evening. Apparently last Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday my landlord came to the apartment to talk to me. He was coming during the day when I am at work. He could have left a note on the door or called but chose not to. Just decided that since I wasn t answering the door and my bed and whatnot was gone I must have moved out. He went inside and inspected the place. Since there was still stuff in the apartment and I wasn t there any time he attempted to come over he apparently decided I was abandoning the apartment. He took pictures of all the stuff left and posted an ad on Craigslist asking for offers on the whole lot of stuff left. Someone offered him $1k and he took it. According to my landlord they came on Friday took the rest of my stuff and left. I showed up on Friday night to get a load of stuff to move and found everything gone the place was completely empty. Of course I called the landlord he said I abandoned the place by moving some stuff out but leaving other stuff etc. I reminded him that I was paid up until 12 15 so I was taking my time moving. I said I wanted my stuff back he said it s already been sold. Told me the story. He told me he would pay me for the stuff. However he has now changed his mind now that he knows the value of the stuff in the apartment is at least $28 000. Apparently he only plans to give me the $1000 he made from the sale because according to him the value of the items is what someone is willing to pay for it. He believes I am lying about the value of the items in order to get money out of him. I have provided him with photos that I assume he could match with the pictures he took of my stuff but he will not compare them and won t let me see the pictures he took either. He refuses to give me the information of the person he sold the stuff to. I had renter s insurance as well as scheduled insurance on about $27 000 worth of stuff. They said to move forward I need to get a police report and pursue charges for the landlord. However the police said this is a civil matter and I cannot do so. Insurance s advice was to push the police station on the matter. The police have maintained that it s a civil matter and they are unable to get involved. I have tried talking to higher ups but they all tell me the same thing. How do I move forward with this? My insurance won t accept my claim until I get a police report and the police won t even file a report on it. I would appreciate any advice you might have. Thank you. Location: St. Paul MN | This is what the relevant MN statute says about this: > If a landlord an agent or other person acting under the landlord s direction or control in possession of a tenant s personal property fails to allow the tenant to retake possession of the property within 24 hours after written demand by the tenant or the tenant s duly authorized representative or within 48 hours exclusive of weekends and holidays after written demand by the tenant or a duly authorized representative when the landlord the landlord s agent or person acting under the landlord s direction or control has removed and stored the personal property in accordance with subdivision 1 in a location other than the premises **the tenant shall recover from the landlord punitive damages in an amount not to exceed twice the actual damages or $1 000 whichever is greater in addition to actual damages and reasonable attorney s fees.** > In determining the amount of punitive damages the court shall consider (1) the nature and value of the property (2) the effect the deprivation of the property has had on the tenant (3) if the landlord an agent or other person acting under the landlord s direction or control unlawfully took possession of the tenant s property and (4) if the landlord an agent or other person under the landlord s direction or control acted in bad faith in failing to allow the tenant to retake possession of the property. Since the landlord did not even follow [the proper procedure for tenant abandonment](https: www.revisor.mn.gov statutes ?id=504b.271) you have quite a good case here. If I was you I d serve the landlord with written notice demanding possession of your property *immediately* (as required by the above referenced statute) then go talk to a lawyer right away. Since the landlord will be liable for your attorney s fees you should be able to find one without a problem. Act quickly though. | You might want to go speak to a civil attorney. This is a huge no no for a landlord. Generally a consultation is free or low cost. | 104 | 49 |
2ooy1x | 1,447 | UPDATE: My neighbors caused themselves to be landlocked. Now the sheriff wants me to let them use my road. I posted [this](http: www.reddit.com r legaladvice comments 2o3g9g neighbors_stupidly_caused_themselves_to_be ) last week. To make a long story short my neighbors sold part of their land in a way that left them landlocked because they assumed I would let them access their property via my property via my road which is gated and locked at all times. I got a lawyer and met with him. We hashed out a plan and I was feeling pretty good about everything. Yesterday (Sunday) around noon the purple land owners finished fencing in their property. My neighbors came home at about 3 PM and rang at the gate several times. I was advised by you guys as well as my lawyer to not let them in my gate even once as that would set a precedent of them being allowed to use it. So I ignored the ringing. Eventually the husband got out of the car and walked around to the other side of my property which is not yet fenced in. He used that to get to my house and knocked on the door. I answered and told him I will not allow him to use my gate and to leave my property. He told me he wouldn t leave until I opened the gate so his wife could drive the car through. I said I would not do so and threatened to call the police. He walked left and went back to the car. Then they started ringing the gate again. I looked out the window and they had a police officer with them. I went to the gate and informed the police officer that this is my property and I will not allow them to drive on it. I said that they have no legal right to access my property. Then I walked back to the house. After a couple of minutes the police officer walked around to get onto my land and to the house and knocked at the door. He said that because their land is landlocked I need to allow them to use my road until another solution can be figured out and I can t just deny them access to their property. I called my lawyer who spoke with the police officer on the phone. The police officer acknowledged that he cannot force me to let them drive on my property but that he strongly encourages me to work this out with my neighbors in a civil manner. He left. The neighbors left their car in front of my gate walked around to the unfenced part of my land walked across my yard and onto their own property. I called my lawyer. We reported them for trespassing today. They left their car there until about 10 AM this morning. Tonight I was visited by the sheriff. He told me very short and sweet that I cannot deny my neighbors access to their property via an established road. He said I better not get another call. From this point forward you will allow them to get to and from their property and will not lock them out or in. Then he walked away. Called the lawyer. I am meeting with the lawyer in the morning. I am planning to ask her the following questions: 1. Is there a point where I should give into a police officer s request that I let them use my road? 2. If they block my gate again can I have their car towed? The way they parked it I would not have been able to leave my property via the gate. They were parked ON my land at the time not on the public road. If anyone has any thoughts on these I am all ears. Thank you. | Thank you so much for keeping us updated. This case is fascinating to me. > He told me very short and sweet that I cannot deny my neighbors access to their property via an established road. Your driveway is not an established road. However if you start letting him use it it will become an established road. You re going to have to be stubborn up against the cop he s leading you in the wrong direction and it could be detrimental to you. Ironically the road he previously used on Purple Guy s property is an established road and the cop should have been telling *that* guy he couldn t block his access. | Oh bugger. Well obviously you ll have to be guided by your attorney. | 674 | 23 |
2ooy1x | 1,447 | UPDATE: My neighbors caused themselves to be landlocked. Now the sheriff wants me to let them use my road. I posted [this](http: www.reddit.com r legaladvice comments 2o3g9g neighbors_stupidly_caused_themselves_to_be ) last week. To make a long story short my neighbors sold part of their land in a way that left them landlocked because they assumed I would let them access their property via my property via my road which is gated and locked at all times. I got a lawyer and met with him. We hashed out a plan and I was feeling pretty good about everything. Yesterday (Sunday) around noon the purple land owners finished fencing in their property. My neighbors came home at about 3 PM and rang at the gate several times. I was advised by you guys as well as my lawyer to not let them in my gate even once as that would set a precedent of them being allowed to use it. So I ignored the ringing. Eventually the husband got out of the car and walked around to the other side of my property which is not yet fenced in. He used that to get to my house and knocked on the door. I answered and told him I will not allow him to use my gate and to leave my property. He told me he wouldn t leave until I opened the gate so his wife could drive the car through. I said I would not do so and threatened to call the police. He walked left and went back to the car. Then they started ringing the gate again. I looked out the window and they had a police officer with them. I went to the gate and informed the police officer that this is my property and I will not allow them to drive on it. I said that they have no legal right to access my property. Then I walked back to the house. After a couple of minutes the police officer walked around to get onto my land and to the house and knocked at the door. He said that because their land is landlocked I need to allow them to use my road until another solution can be figured out and I can t just deny them access to their property. I called my lawyer who spoke with the police officer on the phone. The police officer acknowledged that he cannot force me to let them drive on my property but that he strongly encourages me to work this out with my neighbors in a civil manner. He left. The neighbors left their car in front of my gate walked around to the unfenced part of my land walked across my yard and onto their own property. I called my lawyer. We reported them for trespassing today. They left their car there until about 10 AM this morning. Tonight I was visited by the sheriff. He told me very short and sweet that I cannot deny my neighbors access to their property via an established road. He said I better not get another call. From this point forward you will allow them to get to and from their property and will not lock them out or in. Then he walked away. Called the lawyer. I am meeting with the lawyer in the morning. I am planning to ask her the following questions: 1. Is there a point where I should give into a police officer s request that I let them use my road? 2. If they block my gate again can I have their car towed? The way they parked it I would not have been able to leave my property via the gate. They were parked ON my land at the time not on the public road. If anyone has any thoughts on these I am all ears. Thank you. | Thank you so much for keeping us updated. This case is fascinating to me. > He told me very short and sweet that I cannot deny my neighbors access to their property via an established road. Your driveway is not an established road. However if you start letting him use it it will become an established road. You re going to have to be stubborn up against the cop he s leading you in the wrong direction and it could be detrimental to you. Ironically the road he previously used on Purple Guy s property is an established road and the cop should have been telling *that* guy he couldn t block his access. | Oh my god this must be so much fun for you. I would be loving it personally. The power. The raw unadulterated power. > he police officer acknowledged that he cannot force me to let them drive on my property Don t give into the police officer - he knows he can t force you to do anything. Your neighbor shot the solve this in a civil manner plan in the foot when they started making demands. If they re parked on your land I would definitely say you have a right to tow their property off of it since it s blocking your gate. Check with your lawyer to confirm. Keep us updated - I am literally so happy to have gotten an update this soon. Enjoy. | 674 | 131 |
2ooy1x | 1,447 | UPDATE: My neighbors caused themselves to be landlocked. Now the sheriff wants me to let them use my road. I posted [this](http: www.reddit.com r legaladvice comments 2o3g9g neighbors_stupidly_caused_themselves_to_be ) last week. To make a long story short my neighbors sold part of their land in a way that left them landlocked because they assumed I would let them access their property via my property via my road which is gated and locked at all times. I got a lawyer and met with him. We hashed out a plan and I was feeling pretty good about everything. Yesterday (Sunday) around noon the purple land owners finished fencing in their property. My neighbors came home at about 3 PM and rang at the gate several times. I was advised by you guys as well as my lawyer to not let them in my gate even once as that would set a precedent of them being allowed to use it. So I ignored the ringing. Eventually the husband got out of the car and walked around to the other side of my property which is not yet fenced in. He used that to get to my house and knocked on the door. I answered and told him I will not allow him to use my gate and to leave my property. He told me he wouldn t leave until I opened the gate so his wife could drive the car through. I said I would not do so and threatened to call the police. He walked left and went back to the car. Then they started ringing the gate again. I looked out the window and they had a police officer with them. I went to the gate and informed the police officer that this is my property and I will not allow them to drive on it. I said that they have no legal right to access my property. Then I walked back to the house. After a couple of minutes the police officer walked around to get onto my land and to the house and knocked at the door. He said that because their land is landlocked I need to allow them to use my road until another solution can be figured out and I can t just deny them access to their property. I called my lawyer who spoke with the police officer on the phone. The police officer acknowledged that he cannot force me to let them drive on my property but that he strongly encourages me to work this out with my neighbors in a civil manner. He left. The neighbors left their car in front of my gate walked around to the unfenced part of my land walked across my yard and onto their own property. I called my lawyer. We reported them for trespassing today. They left their car there until about 10 AM this morning. Tonight I was visited by the sheriff. He told me very short and sweet that I cannot deny my neighbors access to their property via an established road. He said I better not get another call. From this point forward you will allow them to get to and from their property and will not lock them out or in. Then he walked away. Called the lawyer. I am meeting with the lawyer in the morning. I am planning to ask her the following questions: 1. Is there a point where I should give into a police officer s request that I let them use my road? 2. If they block my gate again can I have their car towed? The way they parked it I would not have been able to leave my property via the gate. They were parked ON my land at the time not on the public road. If anyone has any thoughts on these I am all ears. Thank you. | Your neighbor has managed to piss ME off and I m 1500 miles away in New Hampshire. Someone selling their land and access road and then demanding access through *your* property is a rare combination of stupidity ignorance and unmitigated gall. > Is there a point where I should give into a police officer s request that I let them use my road? I guess that s up to you and depends on whether it s a request or a demand. It sounds like the Sheriff is your problem not your local police. u lost_profit has solid advice: Have your lawyer set up a meeting with the three of you to explain the situation. When he said I better not get another call. From this point forward you will allow them to get to and from their property and will not lock them out or in he probably didn t have all the facts at hand only your neighbor s side. Quite frankly if he comes back and *demands* you open the gate and let your neighbor through you could possibly face arrest for some BS charge like disobeying a peace officer or whatever the MN equivalent charge happens to be. The charge probably won t stick but while you might win in court you can t avoid the ride. If his cuffs come out it s probably too late. Personally (and I m certainly not in your shoes with kids at home and whatnot) if it came to that point I d let him arrest me. I m no martyr but I would rather be wrongfully arrested than set some sort of precedent by voluntarily giving my dipshit neighbor access to my land. I would make it crystal clear that the access was only granted by force. | Oh bugger. Well obviously you ll have to be guided by your attorney. | 437 | 23 |
2ooy1x | 1,447 | UPDATE: My neighbors caused themselves to be landlocked. Now the sheriff wants me to let them use my road. I posted [this](http: www.reddit.com r legaladvice comments 2o3g9g neighbors_stupidly_caused_themselves_to_be ) last week. To make a long story short my neighbors sold part of their land in a way that left them landlocked because they assumed I would let them access their property via my property via my road which is gated and locked at all times. I got a lawyer and met with him. We hashed out a plan and I was feeling pretty good about everything. Yesterday (Sunday) around noon the purple land owners finished fencing in their property. My neighbors came home at about 3 PM and rang at the gate several times. I was advised by you guys as well as my lawyer to not let them in my gate even once as that would set a precedent of them being allowed to use it. So I ignored the ringing. Eventually the husband got out of the car and walked around to the other side of my property which is not yet fenced in. He used that to get to my house and knocked on the door. I answered and told him I will not allow him to use my gate and to leave my property. He told me he wouldn t leave until I opened the gate so his wife could drive the car through. I said I would not do so and threatened to call the police. He walked left and went back to the car. Then they started ringing the gate again. I looked out the window and they had a police officer with them. I went to the gate and informed the police officer that this is my property and I will not allow them to drive on it. I said that they have no legal right to access my property. Then I walked back to the house. After a couple of minutes the police officer walked around to get onto my land and to the house and knocked at the door. He said that because their land is landlocked I need to allow them to use my road until another solution can be figured out and I can t just deny them access to their property. I called my lawyer who spoke with the police officer on the phone. The police officer acknowledged that he cannot force me to let them drive on my property but that he strongly encourages me to work this out with my neighbors in a civil manner. He left. The neighbors left their car in front of my gate walked around to the unfenced part of my land walked across my yard and onto their own property. I called my lawyer. We reported them for trespassing today. They left their car there until about 10 AM this morning. Tonight I was visited by the sheriff. He told me very short and sweet that I cannot deny my neighbors access to their property via an established road. He said I better not get another call. From this point forward you will allow them to get to and from their property and will not lock them out or in. Then he walked away. Called the lawyer. I am meeting with the lawyer in the morning. I am planning to ask her the following questions: 1. Is there a point where I should give into a police officer s request that I let them use my road? 2. If they block my gate again can I have their car towed? The way they parked it I would not have been able to leave my property via the gate. They were parked ON my land at the time not on the public road. If anyone has any thoughts on these I am all ears. Thank you. | Your neighbor has managed to piss ME off and I m 1500 miles away in New Hampshire. Someone selling their land and access road and then demanding access through *your* property is a rare combination of stupidity ignorance and unmitigated gall. > Is there a point where I should give into a police officer s request that I let them use my road? I guess that s up to you and depends on whether it s a request or a demand. It sounds like the Sheriff is your problem not your local police. u lost_profit has solid advice: Have your lawyer set up a meeting with the three of you to explain the situation. When he said I better not get another call. From this point forward you will allow them to get to and from their property and will not lock them out or in he probably didn t have all the facts at hand only your neighbor s side. Quite frankly if he comes back and *demands* you open the gate and let your neighbor through you could possibly face arrest for some BS charge like disobeying a peace officer or whatever the MN equivalent charge happens to be. The charge probably won t stick but while you might win in court you can t avoid the ride. If his cuffs come out it s probably too late. Personally (and I m certainly not in your shoes with kids at home and whatnot) if it came to that point I d let him arrest me. I m no martyr but I would rather be wrongfully arrested than set some sort of precedent by voluntarily giving my dipshit neighbor access to my land. I would make it crystal clear that the access was only granted by force. | Ask your lawyer if you need to continue talking to the police. Your best course of action may be to simply not come to the door when the sheriff comes a-knocking. You re not obligated to talk to him. | 437 | 28 |
2ooy1x | 1,447 | UPDATE: My neighbors caused themselves to be landlocked. Now the sheriff wants me to let them use my road. I posted [this](http: www.reddit.com r legaladvice comments 2o3g9g neighbors_stupidly_caused_themselves_to_be ) last week. To make a long story short my neighbors sold part of their land in a way that left them landlocked because they assumed I would let them access their property via my property via my road which is gated and locked at all times. I got a lawyer and met with him. We hashed out a plan and I was feeling pretty good about everything. Yesterday (Sunday) around noon the purple land owners finished fencing in their property. My neighbors came home at about 3 PM and rang at the gate several times. I was advised by you guys as well as my lawyer to not let them in my gate even once as that would set a precedent of them being allowed to use it. So I ignored the ringing. Eventually the husband got out of the car and walked around to the other side of my property which is not yet fenced in. He used that to get to my house and knocked on the door. I answered and told him I will not allow him to use my gate and to leave my property. He told me he wouldn t leave until I opened the gate so his wife could drive the car through. I said I would not do so and threatened to call the police. He walked left and went back to the car. Then they started ringing the gate again. I looked out the window and they had a police officer with them. I went to the gate and informed the police officer that this is my property and I will not allow them to drive on it. I said that they have no legal right to access my property. Then I walked back to the house. After a couple of minutes the police officer walked around to get onto my land and to the house and knocked at the door. He said that because their land is landlocked I need to allow them to use my road until another solution can be figured out and I can t just deny them access to their property. I called my lawyer who spoke with the police officer on the phone. The police officer acknowledged that he cannot force me to let them drive on my property but that he strongly encourages me to work this out with my neighbors in a civil manner. He left. The neighbors left their car in front of my gate walked around to the unfenced part of my land walked across my yard and onto their own property. I called my lawyer. We reported them for trespassing today. They left their car there until about 10 AM this morning. Tonight I was visited by the sheriff. He told me very short and sweet that I cannot deny my neighbors access to their property via an established road. He said I better not get another call. From this point forward you will allow them to get to and from their property and will not lock them out or in. Then he walked away. Called the lawyer. I am meeting with the lawyer in the morning. I am planning to ask her the following questions: 1. Is there a point where I should give into a police officer s request that I let them use my road? 2. If they block my gate again can I have their car towed? The way they parked it I would not have been able to leave my property via the gate. They were parked ON my land at the time not on the public road. If anyone has any thoughts on these I am all ears. Thank you. | Your neighbor has managed to piss ME off and I m 1500 miles away in New Hampshire. Someone selling their land and access road and then demanding access through *your* property is a rare combination of stupidity ignorance and unmitigated gall. > Is there a point where I should give into a police officer s request that I let them use my road? I guess that s up to you and depends on whether it s a request or a demand. It sounds like the Sheriff is your problem not your local police. u lost_profit has solid advice: Have your lawyer set up a meeting with the three of you to explain the situation. When he said I better not get another call. From this point forward you will allow them to get to and from their property and will not lock them out or in he probably didn t have all the facts at hand only your neighbor s side. Quite frankly if he comes back and *demands* you open the gate and let your neighbor through you could possibly face arrest for some BS charge like disobeying a peace officer or whatever the MN equivalent charge happens to be. The charge probably won t stick but while you might win in court you can t avoid the ride. If his cuffs come out it s probably too late. Personally (and I m certainly not in your shoes with kids at home and whatnot) if it came to that point I d let him arrest me. I m no martyr but I would rather be wrongfully arrested than set some sort of precedent by voluntarily giving my dipshit neighbor access to my land. I would make it crystal clear that the access was only granted by force. | Thank you for the update. No advice but please continue to keep us updated. This is a very interesting situation. | 437 | 37 |
2ow1f4 | 237 | UPDATE: Car taken by title loan company after seven years....THEY FUCKED UP AND THEY KNOW IT! Bringing the Vehicle back if I agree not to sue! [Dallas Texas] Here is the original link: http: www.reddit.com r legaladvice comments 2oabse car_taken_by_title_loan_company_after_seven_years Well well well. How the tides have turned. They told me I owned them 3400.00 from 2007. I asked for all of the paperwork associated with my account including the signed agreement. The Attorney for Loan Max then said they would settle for 2400.00. I declined and told them I don t owe them anything and reiterated the need for all of my paperwork. The attorney then called back and said they would settle for 500.00. Again I refused. I faxed her our clean texas title along with a letter stating that if they cannot provide any proof of debt they need to return my property or I will file a complaint with the State Attorney General the FTC and the Consumer Affairs Division. I also stated my husband and I will be filing suit in the local court system. Yesterday the attorney called me back and stated that they will return my vehicle at no cost so long as I sign a release that she would mail overnight. Well I received the release forms from fedex this morning. It is a Waiver of Liability! It basically says that I will get my vehicle back so long as I sign the form agreeing to that Loan Max participated in no wrong doing and that I agree not to sue them. They have had my vehicle since November 19 2014. My other vehicle had mechanical trouble to day and I could not get to work until after noon today. This would not have happened if I had my other vehicle. I am 100% sure they are in the wrong and will like to file suit for the stress of this situation and for their unfair debt collection practices. They have still not shown me any proof of debt. They also stated they don t have the signed agreement or any other paperwork. If I refuse to sign my rights away will they keep my vehicle even though they are in the wrong? **EDIT: Hopefully my next update will be in r justiceporn** **EDIT 2: I just called the attorney for Loan Max and left a voice mail declining their offer. I stated that I cannot in good conscience accept such an agreement without first having my vehicle returned followed by a thorough inspection for any damage or missing items. I will be faxing and mailing my declination when I get to work. I am also advising them to contact me either through snail or email. No more phone calls.** **Thank you all so much for your help. You guys motivate me.** **Edit 3: I am currently in contact with an attorney specializing in Consumer and financial fraud. He requested I send him all of my information and correspondence related to the issue. He will be reveiwing it this afternoon with her partner.** | Don t sign the waiver. The statute of limitations for debt in Texas is 4 years and you ve got a clean texas title and so they don t have to legal right to collect on the debt. They are in the wrong and they know it which is why they are trying to force you into signing a sheet of paper agreeing to not sue them. Don t sign the paper. Contact an attorney who will politely inform them that the longer they hold onto the vehicle the greater your damages are going to be. You ve likely got several claims against them under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act the Texas Debt Collection Act and certain Texas laws relating to self-help repossession of property. P.S. Don t sign the waiver. | > If I refuse to sign my rights away will they keep my vehicle even though they are in the wrong? They could. They want assurances the matter is resolved. Businesses like to mitigate risk and from their perspective they are doing you a favor and want something in return. Until you do no car for you. Either that or take this all the way and who knows how long that would take. I would expect a release in this type of situation. > I am 100% sure they are in the wrong and will like to file suit for the stress of this situation and for their unfair debt collection practices. So don t agree to their terms and do it. | 165 | 13 |
2ow1f4 | 237 | UPDATE: Car taken by title loan company after seven years....THEY FUCKED UP AND THEY KNOW IT! Bringing the Vehicle back if I agree not to sue! [Dallas Texas] Here is the original link: http: www.reddit.com r legaladvice comments 2oabse car_taken_by_title_loan_company_after_seven_years Well well well. How the tides have turned. They told me I owned them 3400.00 from 2007. I asked for all of the paperwork associated with my account including the signed agreement. The Attorney for Loan Max then said they would settle for 2400.00. I declined and told them I don t owe them anything and reiterated the need for all of my paperwork. The attorney then called back and said they would settle for 500.00. Again I refused. I faxed her our clean texas title along with a letter stating that if they cannot provide any proof of debt they need to return my property or I will file a complaint with the State Attorney General the FTC and the Consumer Affairs Division. I also stated my husband and I will be filing suit in the local court system. Yesterday the attorney called me back and stated that they will return my vehicle at no cost so long as I sign a release that she would mail overnight. Well I received the release forms from fedex this morning. It is a Waiver of Liability! It basically says that I will get my vehicle back so long as I sign the form agreeing to that Loan Max participated in no wrong doing and that I agree not to sue them. They have had my vehicle since November 19 2014. My other vehicle had mechanical trouble to day and I could not get to work until after noon today. This would not have happened if I had my other vehicle. I am 100% sure they are in the wrong and will like to file suit for the stress of this situation and for their unfair debt collection practices. They have still not shown me any proof of debt. They also stated they don t have the signed agreement or any other paperwork. If I refuse to sign my rights away will they keep my vehicle even though they are in the wrong? **EDIT: Hopefully my next update will be in r justiceporn** **EDIT 2: I just called the attorney for Loan Max and left a voice mail declining their offer. I stated that I cannot in good conscience accept such an agreement without first having my vehicle returned followed by a thorough inspection for any damage or missing items. I will be faxing and mailing my declination when I get to work. I am also advising them to contact me either through snail or email. No more phone calls.** **Thank you all so much for your help. You guys motivate me.** **Edit 3: I am currently in contact with an attorney specializing in Consumer and financial fraud. He requested I send him all of my information and correspondence related to the issue. He will be reveiwing it this afternoon with her partner.** | Don t sign the waiver. The statute of limitations for debt in Texas is 4 years and you ve got a clean texas title and so they don t have to legal right to collect on the debt. They are in the wrong and they know it which is why they are trying to force you into signing a sheet of paper agreeing to not sue them. Don t sign the paper. Contact an attorney who will politely inform them that the longer they hold onto the vehicle the greater your damages are going to be. You ve likely got several claims against them under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act the Texas Debt Collection Act and certain Texas laws relating to self-help repossession of property. P.S. Don t sign the waiver. | Nice. They re offering to settle this without you having to go to court. If you don t settle they could conceivably keep your car until you sue and the case is concluded. You can accept the settlement amount. You ve only been out the vehicle for a few weeks so it s not that much of a stretch to just accept the car with no money damages. You can also negotiate an amount that you think is reasonable to settle the (potential) lawsuit. I m not aware offhand what type of statutory damages are allowed for wrongful repossession but I expect there are *some*. | 165 | 18 |
2ow1f4 | 237 | UPDATE: Car taken by title loan company after seven years....THEY FUCKED UP AND THEY KNOW IT! Bringing the Vehicle back if I agree not to sue! [Dallas Texas] Here is the original link: http: www.reddit.com r legaladvice comments 2oabse car_taken_by_title_loan_company_after_seven_years Well well well. How the tides have turned. They told me I owned them 3400.00 from 2007. I asked for all of the paperwork associated with my account including the signed agreement. The Attorney for Loan Max then said they would settle for 2400.00. I declined and told them I don t owe them anything and reiterated the need for all of my paperwork. The attorney then called back and said they would settle for 500.00. Again I refused. I faxed her our clean texas title along with a letter stating that if they cannot provide any proof of debt they need to return my property or I will file a complaint with the State Attorney General the FTC and the Consumer Affairs Division. I also stated my husband and I will be filing suit in the local court system. Yesterday the attorney called me back and stated that they will return my vehicle at no cost so long as I sign a release that she would mail overnight. Well I received the release forms from fedex this morning. It is a Waiver of Liability! It basically says that I will get my vehicle back so long as I sign the form agreeing to that Loan Max participated in no wrong doing and that I agree not to sue them. They have had my vehicle since November 19 2014. My other vehicle had mechanical trouble to day and I could not get to work until after noon today. This would not have happened if I had my other vehicle. I am 100% sure they are in the wrong and will like to file suit for the stress of this situation and for their unfair debt collection practices. They have still not shown me any proof of debt. They also stated they don t have the signed agreement or any other paperwork. If I refuse to sign my rights away will they keep my vehicle even though they are in the wrong? **EDIT: Hopefully my next update will be in r justiceporn** **EDIT 2: I just called the attorney for Loan Max and left a voice mail declining their offer. I stated that I cannot in good conscience accept such an agreement without first having my vehicle returned followed by a thorough inspection for any damage or missing items. I will be faxing and mailing my declination when I get to work. I am also advising them to contact me either through snail or email. No more phone calls.** **Thank you all so much for your help. You guys motivate me.** **Edit 3: I am currently in contact with an attorney specializing in Consumer and financial fraud. He requested I send him all of my information and correspondence related to the issue. He will be reveiwing it this afternoon with her partner.** | You may be entitled to actual damages and possibly statutory damages but do not count on collecting anything for the stress of the situation. That s not a compensable form of damage in a case like this. | > If I refuse to sign my rights away will they keep my vehicle even though they are in the wrong? They could. They want assurances the matter is resolved. Businesses like to mitigate risk and from their perspective they are doing you a favor and want something in return. Until you do no car for you. Either that or take this all the way and who knows how long that would take. I would expect a release in this type of situation. > I am 100% sure they are in the wrong and will like to file suit for the stress of this situation and for their unfair debt collection practices. So don t agree to their terms and do it. | 75 | 13 |
2ow1f4 | 237 | UPDATE: Car taken by title loan company after seven years....THEY FUCKED UP AND THEY KNOW IT! Bringing the Vehicle back if I agree not to sue! [Dallas Texas] Here is the original link: http: www.reddit.com r legaladvice comments 2oabse car_taken_by_title_loan_company_after_seven_years Well well well. How the tides have turned. They told me I owned them 3400.00 from 2007. I asked for all of the paperwork associated with my account including the signed agreement. The Attorney for Loan Max then said they would settle for 2400.00. I declined and told them I don t owe them anything and reiterated the need for all of my paperwork. The attorney then called back and said they would settle for 500.00. Again I refused. I faxed her our clean texas title along with a letter stating that if they cannot provide any proof of debt they need to return my property or I will file a complaint with the State Attorney General the FTC and the Consumer Affairs Division. I also stated my husband and I will be filing suit in the local court system. Yesterday the attorney called me back and stated that they will return my vehicle at no cost so long as I sign a release that she would mail overnight. Well I received the release forms from fedex this morning. It is a Waiver of Liability! It basically says that I will get my vehicle back so long as I sign the form agreeing to that Loan Max participated in no wrong doing and that I agree not to sue them. They have had my vehicle since November 19 2014. My other vehicle had mechanical trouble to day and I could not get to work until after noon today. This would not have happened if I had my other vehicle. I am 100% sure they are in the wrong and will like to file suit for the stress of this situation and for their unfair debt collection practices. They have still not shown me any proof of debt. They also stated they don t have the signed agreement or any other paperwork. If I refuse to sign my rights away will they keep my vehicle even though they are in the wrong? **EDIT: Hopefully my next update will be in r justiceporn** **EDIT 2: I just called the attorney for Loan Max and left a voice mail declining their offer. I stated that I cannot in good conscience accept such an agreement without first having my vehicle returned followed by a thorough inspection for any damage or missing items. I will be faxing and mailing my declination when I get to work. I am also advising them to contact me either through snail or email. No more phone calls.** **Thank you all so much for your help. You guys motivate me.** **Edit 3: I am currently in contact with an attorney specializing in Consumer and financial fraud. He requested I send him all of my information and correspondence related to the issue. He will be reveiwing it this afternoon with her partner.** | You may be entitled to actual damages and possibly statutory damages but do not count on collecting anything for the stress of the situation. That s not a compensable form of damage in a case like this. | Nice. They re offering to settle this without you having to go to court. If you don t settle they could conceivably keep your car until you sue and the case is concluded. You can accept the settlement amount. You ve only been out the vehicle for a few weeks so it s not that much of a stretch to just accept the car with no money damages. You can also negotiate an amount that you think is reasonable to settle the (potential) lawsuit. I m not aware offhand what type of statutory damages are allowed for wrongful repossession but I expect there are *some*. | 75 | 18 |
2owbg3 | 109 | Someone filed a theft report saying I stole something that is rightfully mine. Police station not helpful so far. A woman in my neighborhood came over to my house to find out if her son was over playing with mine (he wasn t). She saw my iPad on the coffee table and picked it up and started looking at it. Then she asked if it was hers saying hers was stolen and it looked exactly like it. I said no it s my own. She told me she didn t believe me accused me my son of stealing it etc. Then she said that even if that exact iPad wasn t hers she know hers is somewhere and she believes my son stole it. I know that isn t possible because the day she claimed it was stolen my son was out of state with his grandparents. She tried to leave with it but I took it back from her and told her to leave repeatedly. After I threatened to call the police she left. About an hour later she showed up with police herself. The police officer did all the talking and said that while in my home she saw stolen property that belongs to her. It was still sitting on my coffee table and she came in and picked it up. I told her that it is not her property and that she is not welcome in my house. She ignored me. The police officer took it from her and asked her what the background was when she lost it. She lied and said that it had a red background which is the background I had on it myself. She must have seen it when she picked it up previously. The police officer told me that she agreed not to press charges for theft if we got it back and to have a nice day. They walked away. I begged the officer to stay while I got proof it was mine (I have the box receipt warranty etc. in my home office.) He said she has already proven it was hers and repeated have a nice day. They left. I immediately drove to the police station with all my documentation. Someone there seemed sympathetic and made copies of everything. I asked to fill out a theft report and they let me. They said they would look into it. It has been three days and I have not heard back. I understand that this is a low priority for them but she got a police officer to come to my house in under an hour for something I allegedly stole. Now when a cop HELPED her steal something from me they don t care. I am wondering if anyone has any recommendations. I have remotely wiped everything from it but of course I want my actual device back. I have gone to her house several times but she ignores me. If she is outside and sees me coming she goes inside and doesn t answer the door. | File a complaint with the officer s supervisor. | You can sue her in small claims court for the value of the iPad. If you have proof that it is yours proof of purchase etc. then this should be a slam dunk. | 156 | 89 |
2p0afc | 48 | Landlord suing us for costs of repainting apartment because we painted it colors he didn t want. We believe he owes US money. Should we file our own lawsuit? Chain of events: 1. Moved into apartment. Walls are various dark colors. 2. Landlord agrees we can paint the walls as long as we return them to their original state of color and finish before moving out. 3. We paint the apartment. 4. We live in the apartment for a while. 5. We decide to move out tell landlord we won t be renewing our contract etc. When it s time to move we email landlord (three weeks ahead of time) saying that we will be painting the apartment over the course of three days. That way he won t come in for some reason and end up covered in paint. 6. We paint. 7. A week AFTER we paint and 4 weeks after we emailed him the landlord replies to our email saying we can go ahead and paint everything white. 8. We explain that since he told us to return everything to its original state of color and finish that s what we did. 9. Landlord argues that we should not have relied on email for something so important and we should have instead called him and asked what color he wanted. Even though his original email when we moved in said to paint everything to the original colors which were shades of dark brown green gray etc. Now: The landlord believes we owe $1620. He kept our $900 deposit and is suing us in small claims court for $720. $1550 of that is for painting the apartment. The remaining $70 is for replacing stove pans and replacing some broken tiles which I have no problem with. However I do not believe that he should be charging us $1550 to paint when we returned the apartment to its original colors which is what he asked us to do. I believe he owes us $830. My question: Do I need to file my own small claims lawsuit against him for the return of $830 from our deposit? OR can I just go to the lawsuit where he is suing us and ask the judge to order him to pay $830 to us? We are in IN. | You should not file a new lawsuit. You should make a counter claim in the original lawsuit. Tell your lawyer about your situation and he will know what to do. If you do not have an attorney ask your legal aid center how to file an amended answer or a counter claim. | *I am a bot whose sole purpose is to improve the timeliness and accuracy of responses in this subreddit.* --- **It appears you forgot to include your location in the title or body of your post.** **Please update the original post to include this information.** --- [Report Inaccuracies Here](http: www.reddit.com r LocationBot ) | [Author](http: reddit.com u ianp) | 72 | 3 |
2p0afc | 48 | Landlord suing us for costs of repainting apartment because we painted it colors he didn t want. We believe he owes US money. Should we file our own lawsuit? Chain of events: 1. Moved into apartment. Walls are various dark colors. 2. Landlord agrees we can paint the walls as long as we return them to their original state of color and finish before moving out. 3. We paint the apartment. 4. We live in the apartment for a while. 5. We decide to move out tell landlord we won t be renewing our contract etc. When it s time to move we email landlord (three weeks ahead of time) saying that we will be painting the apartment over the course of three days. That way he won t come in for some reason and end up covered in paint. 6. We paint. 7. A week AFTER we paint and 4 weeks after we emailed him the landlord replies to our email saying we can go ahead and paint everything white. 8. We explain that since he told us to return everything to its original state of color and finish that s what we did. 9. Landlord argues that we should not have relied on email for something so important and we should have instead called him and asked what color he wanted. Even though his original email when we moved in said to paint everything to the original colors which were shades of dark brown green gray etc. Now: The landlord believes we owe $1620. He kept our $900 deposit and is suing us in small claims court for $720. $1550 of that is for painting the apartment. The remaining $70 is for replacing stove pans and replacing some broken tiles which I have no problem with. However I do not believe that he should be charging us $1550 to paint when we returned the apartment to its original colors which is what he asked us to do. I believe he owes us $830. My question: Do I need to file my own small claims lawsuit against him for the return of $830 from our deposit? OR can I just go to the lawsuit where he is suing us and ask the judge to order him to pay $830 to us? We are in IN. | > He kept our $900 deposit and is suing us in small claims court for $720. What you ll want to do is actually counter sue him for $830. You ve got a case you painted the apartment just as your lease specified. You did exactly what you were supposed to do. Make sure you bring your lease in pictures of the apartment (preferably before and after to show that you painted them the right color) as well as copies of the email showing timestamps and the 4 week gap in communication. Also if you have previous emails showing communication between you two bring that to prove that you ve never had a problem communicating via email before and it was fully expected that he would check his email as he had done it in the past. If not bring whatever information you have with his email address. If there s a business card or it s in the contract. If he told you that he can be reached by email he should check his email more than once a month. What you did you did in good faith it s not like you care what color the apartment is. He dropped the ball by not checking his email. Not your fault. 100% his fault. | *I am a bot whose sole purpose is to improve the timeliness and accuracy of responses in this subreddit.* --- **It appears you forgot to include your location in the title or body of your post.** **Please update the original post to include this information.** --- [Report Inaccuracies Here](http: www.reddit.com r LocationBot ) | [Author](http: reddit.com u ianp) | 55 | 3 |
2p246x | 73 | New female Muslim employee refuses to interact with males in the same manner as she will with females. I believe this restricts her performance and conflicts with our policy of not discriminating based on sex or gender. Who s right to discriminate trumps whose? (PA) This is a communications based job and she won t look men in the eye shake hands with them or give anything other than soft-spoken yes or no answers. She is comfortable doing these things and being more eloquent with women. She recently started and I am unsure of the scope of her restrictions beyond these things. Edit: Thank you to everyone who told me that I shouldn t be so quick to jump to conclusions that her actions are based on religion and not culture previous experiences or social abilities. I assumed that it had to do with her religion because of her attire and an out and out refusal to shake my hand (she simply said I can t and looked away). I realize that my assumptions may very well be off base. Also thanks to everyone who suggested documentation and retaining legal service. This of course is how we would deal with this should her performance be lacking to our expectations where termination is required. If she is capable of doing the job we absolutely want her around. Our workplace is very progressive and actively seeks diversity. On the other hand treating people differently based on sex or gender flies in the face of our written non-discrimination policies and our desired office culture dynamic. | Well this is my area of expertise and I ve done it for more than 30 years. And the answer is I don t know. You really need to have an attorney who can ask you for all of the details about the business the size of the business its customers the woman s job duties and whether anyone else can fill in at times. This is really a question of whether business and ordinary social necessity can be thwarted by religious and ethnic peculiarities. An easier way of looking at it on a practical basis (and don t anyone get their panties in a bunch I know this is not a disorder) is to say if I had an employee who had a psychological disability that prevented him from this interaction could I accommodate him as required under the ADA? If you could then you should do that for this woman to so that you don t discriminate against her. If you can t then maybe you are not discriminating at all because this is a neutral and necessary business practice that has nothing to do with discrimination. And she either needs to do it or move on. The bottom line is that this is a deceptively difficult question and you are going to need a good employment lawyer to give you their best opinion. Good luck! | Start documenting her negative behavior and then go to a lawyer once you ve got a decent bit of documentation about her inability to interact with men. | 61 | 4 |
2p246x | 73 | New female Muslim employee refuses to interact with males in the same manner as she will with females. I believe this restricts her performance and conflicts with our policy of not discriminating based on sex or gender. Who s right to discriminate trumps whose? (PA) This is a communications based job and she won t look men in the eye shake hands with them or give anything other than soft-spoken yes or no answers. She is comfortable doing these things and being more eloquent with women. She recently started and I am unsure of the scope of her restrictions beyond these things. Edit: Thank you to everyone who told me that I shouldn t be so quick to jump to conclusions that her actions are based on religion and not culture previous experiences or social abilities. I assumed that it had to do with her religion because of her attire and an out and out refusal to shake my hand (she simply said I can t and looked away). I realize that my assumptions may very well be off base. Also thanks to everyone who suggested documentation and retaining legal service. This of course is how we would deal with this should her performance be lacking to our expectations where termination is required. If she is capable of doing the job we absolutely want her around. Our workplace is very progressive and actively seeks diversity. On the other hand treating people differently based on sex or gender flies in the face of our written non-discrimination policies and our desired office culture dynamic. | Well this is my area of expertise and I ve done it for more than 30 years. And the answer is I don t know. You really need to have an attorney who can ask you for all of the details about the business the size of the business its customers the woman s job duties and whether anyone else can fill in at times. This is really a question of whether business and ordinary social necessity can be thwarted by religious and ethnic peculiarities. An easier way of looking at it on a practical basis (and don t anyone get their panties in a bunch I know this is not a disorder) is to say if I had an employee who had a psychological disability that prevented him from this interaction could I accommodate him as required under the ADA? If you could then you should do that for this woman to so that you don t discriminate against her. If you can t then maybe you are not discriminating at all because this is a neutral and necessary business practice that has nothing to do with discrimination. And she either needs to do it or move on. The bottom line is that this is a deceptively difficult question and you are going to need a good employment lawyer to give you their best opinion. Good luck! | Not sure if legal advice so I m not going to represent it as legal advice: Why not coach her on it to gather more information. Just ask her to treat men like she does with women. See what she says and document it. Again i m not sure if this is a good idea but it is just that an idea. Please correct me reddit! | 61 | 4 |
2p246x | 73 | New female Muslim employee refuses to interact with males in the same manner as she will with females. I believe this restricts her performance and conflicts with our policy of not discriminating based on sex or gender. Who s right to discriminate trumps whose? (PA) This is a communications based job and she won t look men in the eye shake hands with them or give anything other than soft-spoken yes or no answers. She is comfortable doing these things and being more eloquent with women. She recently started and I am unsure of the scope of her restrictions beyond these things. Edit: Thank you to everyone who told me that I shouldn t be so quick to jump to conclusions that her actions are based on religion and not culture previous experiences or social abilities. I assumed that it had to do with her religion because of her attire and an out and out refusal to shake my hand (she simply said I can t and looked away). I realize that my assumptions may very well be off base. Also thanks to everyone who suggested documentation and retaining legal service. This of course is how we would deal with this should her performance be lacking to our expectations where termination is required. If she is capable of doing the job we absolutely want her around. Our workplace is very progressive and actively seeks diversity. On the other hand treating people differently based on sex or gender flies in the face of our written non-discrimination policies and our desired office culture dynamic. | Well this is my area of expertise and I ve done it for more than 30 years. And the answer is I don t know. You really need to have an attorney who can ask you for all of the details about the business the size of the business its customers the woman s job duties and whether anyone else can fill in at times. This is really a question of whether business and ordinary social necessity can be thwarted by religious and ethnic peculiarities. An easier way of looking at it on a practical basis (and don t anyone get their panties in a bunch I know this is not a disorder) is to say if I had an employee who had a psychological disability that prevented him from this interaction could I accommodate him as required under the ADA? If you could then you should do that for this woman to so that you don t discriminate against her. If you can t then maybe you are not discriminating at all because this is a neutral and necessary business practice that has nothing to do with discrimination. And she either needs to do it or move on. The bottom line is that this is a deceptively difficult question and you are going to need a good employment lawyer to give you their best opinion. Good luck! | Whether it is religious or some disability (as u epiwssa suggested) the question is going to be whether you can reasonably accommodate her limitations. Is it possible to restrict her communications to only female clients or is this a job where it is impossible to restrict her interaction with men? If it s the former then you will have to accommodate her. You can talk to her and find out of this really is a religious or *diagnosed* mental health issue. If she is just shy then you can fire her but be absolutely sure you can substantiate her reason for refusing to interact with men. If it s the latter then you can fire her. You are not required to continue to employ someone who is unable to do their job. But as others have suggested you should talk to a lawyer personally. | 61 | 10 |
2p2zwh | 81 | Wife has been having an affair i want marriage dissolved... (NE U. S.) Discovered wife of 11 years has been messing around with another guy. I would prefer to just walk away and avoid any bitter drawn-out legal battle. She has agreed to share a lawyer and I m afraid she ll want to pick one of her lawyer friends putting me at an automatic disadvantage. I had initially told her to leave the house as she has family in town and she refused so i rented a house in an adjacent town. I m hoping that doesn t hurt my situation. We have 2 children (14 & 8) and we agree that they are top priority and should get to come and go as they please and they ve already said they don t want to have to pick where they live. I m terrified of child support (i don t want any nor do i want to pay any) and I ve offered to leave all 3 of them on my insurance and to help pay bills if i can. She is an amazing mother and i am a badass dad so proving either unfit will be a mud slinging contest which I d like to avoid. I m pretty broke at the moment and neither one of us to my knowledge has any significant income or nest egg. We re definitely not wealthy never have been. Unless she s been stashing of course. We both own small businesses in addition to day jobs . She ll be keeping hers open and I ll be closing mine relying solely on my regular paycheck. I guess what I m asking is how clean can this actually be? Am i delusional in thinking we can just legally part ways and walk away after dividing debt and assets (of which there are few)? Should i avoid using her choice of lawyer? | You can t share a lawyer for a divorce. No matter how amicable you want it to be you re adverse parties. It would be a conflict of interest for a lawyer to represent you both. Hire your own lawyer. > We have 2 children (14 & 8) and we agree that they are top priority and should get to come and go as they please and they ve already said they don t want to have to pick where they live. This is a good attitude but it is more likely than not that at some point you will have to formalize a custody arrangement. If you re both saying the children are your top priority I imagine at some point you ll disagree over who should have them more. > I m terrified of child support (i don t want any nor do i want to pay any) Completely unrealistic. If you get divorced and you have children unless you and your wife have 50 50 custody and make exactly to the penny the same amount of money SOMEONE will be paying child support. If the children are truly your top priority you will want this since child support is for them not the two of you. > She is an amazing mother and i am a badass dad so proving either unfit will be a mud slinging contest which I d like to avoid. You don t have to prove someone unfit. You can agree to shared custody visitation. > We both own small businesses in addition to day jobs . She ll be keeping hers open and I ll be closing mine relying solely on my regular paycheck. This is probably a mistake because the court may use the income from your small business to impute additional income to you meaning you will wind up paying more than your fair share in child support. > I guess what I m asking is how clean can this actually be? A divorce with a house and two kids? Unfortunately it s never going to be totally clean. > Am i delusional in thinking we can just legally part ways and walk away after dividing debt and assets Unfortunately yes. The main reason for that is the children. You are co-parent with her for the rest of eternity and that won t change under any circumstances. There will be child support. There will be issues of shared custody. There will be a lot of that. > Should i avoid using her choice of lawyer? Again one lawyer cannot represent both of you. Literally cannot and would be immediately disbarred for attempting to do so. | There s no way one lawyer should be representing the both of you in the divorce. Find your own. The whole process will be as clean as the two of you want it to be. | 148 | 27 |
2p3u0n | 160 | Sold car to man and son mother is suing for money I was paid even though car is not in same condition. Oregon Someone called me up saying they saw my ad selling my car. They wanted to look at it and maybe buy it. 17 year-old shows up with his dad. They look at the car take it for a test drive etc. They take the night to think it over decide they want to buy it. We met the next day and they paid me $5400 in cash. The cash was handed to me by the father and I interpreted the situation as the father buying the car as a gift to the son. Everything seemed fine to me. I transferred the title they wanted it in the son s name. We completed a Notice of Sale for the state and everything else. Now it has been more than a month and the 17 year-old s mother has contacted me. She says that her son can t enter into that type of contract without a parent or guardian - and apparently she has full custody his father has none. She wants to return the car and get the money back. From what I m reading online she is legally able to do so and I must trade them back. However the car is not in the same condition as when I sold it. It appears to have been hit by another vehicle on the side. The damage looks pretty substantial. I told the mother I would be willing to buy the car back for what the son paid MINUS the value of the damages. She is refusing saying the car was not legally sold to him so it was technically still mine all along so it s my responsibility. I am wondering if anyone has thoughts on this. Do I have to buy the car back for $5400 even though it s damaged since they bought it? | Tell her to get lost. it s a scam. The father bought it legally and gave it to the son as a gift. This is legal. She just wants to return the car (for whatever reason the accident or maybe she wants the cash herself etc.) and be a pain in the butt. IF she was to bring this to any attorney they would laugh at her because her having primary custody has nothing to do with the father gifting the son a car. Not interrelated. Stop answering her calls tell her to get lost or ignore her. | Pretty sure you under no obligation to buy it. Talk to a lawyer. Do not agree to anything with this lady. | 212 | 19 |
2p3u0n | 160 | Sold car to man and son mother is suing for money I was paid even though car is not in same condition. Oregon Someone called me up saying they saw my ad selling my car. They wanted to look at it and maybe buy it. 17 year-old shows up with his dad. They look at the car take it for a test drive etc. They take the night to think it over decide they want to buy it. We met the next day and they paid me $5400 in cash. The cash was handed to me by the father and I interpreted the situation as the father buying the car as a gift to the son. Everything seemed fine to me. I transferred the title they wanted it in the son s name. We completed a Notice of Sale for the state and everything else. Now it has been more than a month and the 17 year-old s mother has contacted me. She says that her son can t enter into that type of contract without a parent or guardian - and apparently she has full custody his father has none. She wants to return the car and get the money back. From what I m reading online she is legally able to do so and I must trade them back. However the car is not in the same condition as when I sold it. It appears to have been hit by another vehicle on the side. The damage looks pretty substantial. I told the mother I would be willing to buy the car back for what the son paid MINUS the value of the damages. She is refusing saying the car was not legally sold to him so it was technically still mine all along so it s my responsibility. I am wondering if anyone has thoughts on this. Do I have to buy the car back for $5400 even though it s damaged since they bought it? | There s no contract between you and the son. 17 year olds are allowed to buy things without a guardian s permission. If there s a contract between the son and someone else that s none of your business. I agree with \\u\\lookyloolurker. Kid buys car. Kid wrecks car. Kid wants money to buy new car. Scam. | I would let it go to court if she tries to sue then counter sue for the damages done to car you probably will end up paying but they should be legally liable for damages while in their possession it s like letting a friend borrow a car he wrecked it you can sue him for said damages. | 114 | 4 |
2p3u0n | 160 | Sold car to man and son mother is suing for money I was paid even though car is not in same condition. Oregon Someone called me up saying they saw my ad selling my car. They wanted to look at it and maybe buy it. 17 year-old shows up with his dad. They look at the car take it for a test drive etc. They take the night to think it over decide they want to buy it. We met the next day and they paid me $5400 in cash. The cash was handed to me by the father and I interpreted the situation as the father buying the car as a gift to the son. Everything seemed fine to me. I transferred the title they wanted it in the son s name. We completed a Notice of Sale for the state and everything else. Now it has been more than a month and the 17 year-old s mother has contacted me. She says that her son can t enter into that type of contract without a parent or guardian - and apparently she has full custody his father has none. She wants to return the car and get the money back. From what I m reading online she is legally able to do so and I must trade them back. However the car is not in the same condition as when I sold it. It appears to have been hit by another vehicle on the side. The damage looks pretty substantial. I told the mother I would be willing to buy the car back for what the son paid MINUS the value of the damages. She is refusing saying the car was not legally sold to him so it was technically still mine all along so it s my responsibility. I am wondering if anyone has thoughts on this. Do I have to buy the car back for $5400 even though it s damaged since they bought it? | There s no contract between you and the son. 17 year olds are allowed to buy things without a guardian s permission. If there s a contract between the son and someone else that s none of your business. I agree with \\u\\lookyloolurker. Kid buys car. Kid wrecks car. Kid wants money to buy new car. Scam. | Pretty sure you under no obligation to buy it. Talk to a lawyer. Do not agree to anything with this lady. | 114 | 19 |
2p3u0n | 160 | Sold car to man and son mother is suing for money I was paid even though car is not in same condition. Oregon Someone called me up saying they saw my ad selling my car. They wanted to look at it and maybe buy it. 17 year-old shows up with his dad. They look at the car take it for a test drive etc. They take the night to think it over decide they want to buy it. We met the next day and they paid me $5400 in cash. The cash was handed to me by the father and I interpreted the situation as the father buying the car as a gift to the son. Everything seemed fine to me. I transferred the title they wanted it in the son s name. We completed a Notice of Sale for the state and everything else. Now it has been more than a month and the 17 year-old s mother has contacted me. She says that her son can t enter into that type of contract without a parent or guardian - and apparently she has full custody his father has none. She wants to return the car and get the money back. From what I m reading online she is legally able to do so and I must trade them back. However the car is not in the same condition as when I sold it. It appears to have been hit by another vehicle on the side. The damage looks pretty substantial. I told the mother I would be willing to buy the car back for what the son paid MINUS the value of the damages. She is refusing saying the car was not legally sold to him so it was technically still mine all along so it s my responsibility. I am wondering if anyone has thoughts on this. Do I have to buy the car back for $5400 even though it s damaged since they bought it? | There s no contract between you and the son. 17 year olds are allowed to buy things without a guardian s permission. If there s a contract between the son and someone else that s none of your business. I agree with \\u\\lookyloolurker. Kid buys car. Kid wrecks car. Kid wants money to buy new car. Scam. | And FYI having custody does not mean anything either - the father is a parent maybe one without custody but still a parent. | 114 | 43 |
2p3u0n | 160 | Sold car to man and son mother is suing for money I was paid even though car is not in same condition. Oregon Someone called me up saying they saw my ad selling my car. They wanted to look at it and maybe buy it. 17 year-old shows up with his dad. They look at the car take it for a test drive etc. They take the night to think it over decide they want to buy it. We met the next day and they paid me $5400 in cash. The cash was handed to me by the father and I interpreted the situation as the father buying the car as a gift to the son. Everything seemed fine to me. I transferred the title they wanted it in the son s name. We completed a Notice of Sale for the state and everything else. Now it has been more than a month and the 17 year-old s mother has contacted me. She says that her son can t enter into that type of contract without a parent or guardian - and apparently she has full custody his father has none. She wants to return the car and get the money back. From what I m reading online she is legally able to do so and I must trade them back. However the car is not in the same condition as when I sold it. It appears to have been hit by another vehicle on the side. The damage looks pretty substantial. I told the mother I would be willing to buy the car back for what the son paid MINUS the value of the damages. She is refusing saying the car was not legally sold to him so it was technically still mine all along so it s my responsibility. I am wondering if anyone has thoughts on this. Do I have to buy the car back for $5400 even though it s damaged since they bought it? | You did the sale with the adult male. Legal. The juvenile male was the recipient of a gift. Legal. I call scam. I bet that lady wants you to give the money back to her and not the juvenile male right? Maybe to buy the kid a new car after he wrecked yours? Total scam. | I would let it go to court if she tries to sue then counter sue for the damages done to car you probably will end up paying but they should be legally liable for damages while in their possession it s like letting a friend borrow a car he wrecked it you can sue him for said damages. | 66 | 4 |
2p6x1g | 147 | My friend is getting a fake marriage and thinks he can just get it annulled afterwards... Floridian here! Also x-post from r relationships Will and I used to be best friends in high school. We ve had some rocky times in our friendship but we re still really close. A couple of years ago Will and a group of our friends started hanging out with this girl named Betty. Betty and I were never really introduced nor do we really ever hang out in the same setting. But I have no qualms with her since I don t even know her. Today I was informed that Will and Betty are going to the courthouse to get married. The reasoning behind this is because Betty always wanted to get married on 12 13 14 or some other combination of a cute date like that. Since she s not in a relationship she talked my friend Will into getting married today and having it annulled just so she can say she got married on 12 13 14. I know I shouldn t care because it s not my life but I m kind of worried that Betty is going to trap Will into a marriage by not getting it annulled. I m not sure how long the annulment process takes or if you can get it done the same day as the wedding but I know that my friend Will just got out of a relationship (like three weeks ago) and I don t think he s thinking clearly right now. Should I try to talk him out of going through with it? Or should I just let it be? What legal repercussion could be had if he goes through with this? **tl dr**: Friend is getting married to a friend because she wanted to get married on 12 13 14. They say they ll get it annulled but I m afraid she s trying to trap him in a marriage. Do I try to talk him out of it? **EDIT**: Thank you all so much for the advice. I passed on the information to no avail. Here s the [update](http: ud.reddit.com r relationships comments 2p8fs4 update_my_friend_25_m_is_randomly_getting_fake ) | There are very very specific legal ways to get an annulment. Your friend will probably meet none of them meaning he will have to get a very expensive divorce. This is a huge huge mistake. | How are they doing a courthouse wedding on a Saturday? Other than that - hanging with people like Betty only causes problems. | 212 | 20 |
2p6x1g | 147 | My friend is getting a fake marriage and thinks he can just get it annulled afterwards... Floridian here! Also x-post from r relationships Will and I used to be best friends in high school. We ve had some rocky times in our friendship but we re still really close. A couple of years ago Will and a group of our friends started hanging out with this girl named Betty. Betty and I were never really introduced nor do we really ever hang out in the same setting. But I have no qualms with her since I don t even know her. Today I was informed that Will and Betty are going to the courthouse to get married. The reasoning behind this is because Betty always wanted to get married on 12 13 14 or some other combination of a cute date like that. Since she s not in a relationship she talked my friend Will into getting married today and having it annulled just so she can say she got married on 12 13 14. I know I shouldn t care because it s not my life but I m kind of worried that Betty is going to trap Will into a marriage by not getting it annulled. I m not sure how long the annulment process takes or if you can get it done the same day as the wedding but I know that my friend Will just got out of a relationship (like three weeks ago) and I don t think he s thinking clearly right now. Should I try to talk him out of going through with it? Or should I just let it be? What legal repercussion could be had if he goes through with this? **tl dr**: Friend is getting married to a friend because she wanted to get married on 12 13 14. They say they ll get it annulled but I m afraid she s trying to trap him in a marriage. Do I try to talk him out of it? **EDIT**: Thank you all so much for the advice. I passed on the information to no avail. Here s the [update](http: ud.reddit.com r relationships comments 2p8fs4 update_my_friend_25_m_is_randomly_getting_fake ) | There are very very specific legal ways to get an annulment. Your friend will probably meet none of them meaning he will have to get a very expensive divorce. This is a huge huge mistake. | > Should I try to talk him out of going through with it? Yes. But people get married for all sorts of stupid reasons. There will likely be financial consequences particularly if Betty gets (or is ) pregnant but it s not illegal. It is definitely really stupid. | 212 | 30 |
2p6x1g | 147 | My friend is getting a fake marriage and thinks he can just get it annulled afterwards... Floridian here! Also x-post from r relationships Will and I used to be best friends in high school. We ve had some rocky times in our friendship but we re still really close. A couple of years ago Will and a group of our friends started hanging out with this girl named Betty. Betty and I were never really introduced nor do we really ever hang out in the same setting. But I have no qualms with her since I don t even know her. Today I was informed that Will and Betty are going to the courthouse to get married. The reasoning behind this is because Betty always wanted to get married on 12 13 14 or some other combination of a cute date like that. Since she s not in a relationship she talked my friend Will into getting married today and having it annulled just so she can say she got married on 12 13 14. I know I shouldn t care because it s not my life but I m kind of worried that Betty is going to trap Will into a marriage by not getting it annulled. I m not sure how long the annulment process takes or if you can get it done the same day as the wedding but I know that my friend Will just got out of a relationship (like three weeks ago) and I don t think he s thinking clearly right now. Should I try to talk him out of going through with it? Or should I just let it be? What legal repercussion could be had if he goes through with this? **tl dr**: Friend is getting married to a friend because she wanted to get married on 12 13 14. They say they ll get it annulled but I m afraid she s trying to trap him in a marriage. Do I try to talk him out of it? **EDIT**: Thank you all so much for the advice. I passed on the information to no avail. Here s the [update](http: ud.reddit.com r relationships comments 2p8fs4 update_my_friend_25_m_is_randomly_getting_fake ) | In addition to what everyone has said here: An annulment means that they were never married at all. So Betty would NOT be able to say that she got married on that date because she will have never been married. | Sounds like a really bad idea. | 141 | 2 |
2p6x1g | 147 | My friend is getting a fake marriage and thinks he can just get it annulled afterwards... Floridian here! Also x-post from r relationships Will and I used to be best friends in high school. We ve had some rocky times in our friendship but we re still really close. A couple of years ago Will and a group of our friends started hanging out with this girl named Betty. Betty and I were never really introduced nor do we really ever hang out in the same setting. But I have no qualms with her since I don t even know her. Today I was informed that Will and Betty are going to the courthouse to get married. The reasoning behind this is because Betty always wanted to get married on 12 13 14 or some other combination of a cute date like that. Since she s not in a relationship she talked my friend Will into getting married today and having it annulled just so she can say she got married on 12 13 14. I know I shouldn t care because it s not my life but I m kind of worried that Betty is going to trap Will into a marriage by not getting it annulled. I m not sure how long the annulment process takes or if you can get it done the same day as the wedding but I know that my friend Will just got out of a relationship (like three weeks ago) and I don t think he s thinking clearly right now. Should I try to talk him out of going through with it? Or should I just let it be? What legal repercussion could be had if he goes through with this? **tl dr**: Friend is getting married to a friend because she wanted to get married on 12 13 14. They say they ll get it annulled but I m afraid she s trying to trap him in a marriage. Do I try to talk him out of it? **EDIT**: Thank you all so much for the advice. I passed on the information to no avail. Here s the [update](http: ud.reddit.com r relationships comments 2p8fs4 update_my_friend_25_m_is_randomly_getting_fake ) | In addition to what everyone has said here: An annulment means that they were never married at all. So Betty would NOT be able to say that she got married on that date because she will have never been married. | Aside from whether he would be able to get an annulment why is your friend agreeing to this girl s idiotic plan? Having a cute dating anniversary or something is one thing but this is insane. Your friend is probably making what he will come to recognize as the biggest mistake of his life. Legally he might or might not be able to get it annulled. Without knowing more I would say his chances are not that high at least without a hassle. He s going to do what he wants to do regardless but a good friend would advise him against this. | 141 | 16 |
2p6x1g | 147 | My friend is getting a fake marriage and thinks he can just get it annulled afterwards... Floridian here! Also x-post from r relationships Will and I used to be best friends in high school. We ve had some rocky times in our friendship but we re still really close. A couple of years ago Will and a group of our friends started hanging out with this girl named Betty. Betty and I were never really introduced nor do we really ever hang out in the same setting. But I have no qualms with her since I don t even know her. Today I was informed that Will and Betty are going to the courthouse to get married. The reasoning behind this is because Betty always wanted to get married on 12 13 14 or some other combination of a cute date like that. Since she s not in a relationship she talked my friend Will into getting married today and having it annulled just so she can say she got married on 12 13 14. I know I shouldn t care because it s not my life but I m kind of worried that Betty is going to trap Will into a marriage by not getting it annulled. I m not sure how long the annulment process takes or if you can get it done the same day as the wedding but I know that my friend Will just got out of a relationship (like three weeks ago) and I don t think he s thinking clearly right now. Should I try to talk him out of going through with it? Or should I just let it be? What legal repercussion could be had if he goes through with this? **tl dr**: Friend is getting married to a friend because she wanted to get married on 12 13 14. They say they ll get it annulled but I m afraid she s trying to trap him in a marriage. Do I try to talk him out of it? **EDIT**: Thank you all so much for the advice. I passed on the information to no avail. Here s the [update](http: ud.reddit.com r relationships comments 2p8fs4 update_my_friend_25_m_is_randomly_getting_fake ) | I m an attorney that practices family law in Wisconsin. Here you wouldn t come close to the narrow grounds for an annulment and would have to file for divorce. I took a quick look at Florida law. It appears that in Florida there is a much broader range of grounds for an annulment including that one or both parties entered into the marriage as a joke. So this situation might apply. Still the presumption is that the marriage is valid and at best they d have to go through a protracted process and have a formal hearing in front of a judge. This would certainly not be as simple as filing a form and getting the marriage annulled the following day. This is a horrifically dumb idea. Why don t they have a ceremony but not actually complete a marriage license. Here s one of the pages I was looking at with regard to Florida annulments: http: www.divorcenet.com resources annulment annulment-basics florida.htm | Sounds like a really bad idea. | 124 | 2 |
2p85fz | 22 | I m getting a restraining order against an ex-gf. Is it legal to accept money to have the order dropped? I ll keep this short because I m in a hurry I ll be back to provide more details and clarification. My ex-gf unlawfully harassed me for months (and friends and family). She slandered my name to my employers to get me fired (I ended up quitting due to this). She blackmailed me to see her etc. I have tons of proof. She hired a lawyer they know she s screwed and the judge is going to grant me the restraining order. She doesn t want the restraining order on her record (she already has a restraining order against her from another ex she doesn t want it showing up on background check etc.). Her lawyer made me an offer over the phone for $500 to drop the restraining order. He said we can write up a contract and if she harasses me again I can always petition for the restraining order again. So I want to know is this legal? Can I accept money in return for dropping the restraining order I m currently petitioning for? I m planning to make a counter offer AFTER he emails me his typed up proposal. Since he made the proposal over the phone I m concerned he may turn around and say I m just trying to extort money out of them in return for dropping the order. If it s all legal I m game to take a payoff in return for her signing a contract stating she won t mess with me again. TL DR - Is it legal to accept money from someone I m trying to get a restraining order against in return for dropping the order I m currently petitioning for? | OP this puts you in a terribly shitty situation. If she continues to harass you threaten you and it goes back to court all she has to do is show is this stupid payoff to prove that you are only $500 worth of threatened. If you feel the order is necessary do it. If not don t. | *I am a bot whose sole purpose is to improve the timeliness and accuracy of responses in this subreddit.* --- **It appears you forgot to include your location in the title or body of your post.** **Please update the original post to include this information.** --- [Report Inaccuracies Here](http: www.reddit.com r LocationBot ) | [Author](http: reddit.com u ianp) | 53 | 2 |
2pe1ha | 290 | UPDATE: Worked two day event for company and now they want me to sign a non-compete agreement before paying me for my work. Can they do that? summary of previous issue: I worked a short event for a company and they are refusing to pay me until I sign a contract with them. Update: As per the advice I received in the previous thread I emailed the company and said I would not sign the contract. They replied with we will not send your paycheck until we receive a signed contract. I replied with You cannot legally refuse to pay me due to my refusal to sign a contract you are presenting after I worked for your company. I hope this does not need to become a legal issue. They replied: We have no legal obligation to pay you until a contract is established. I replied: I have a written agreement from your company to pay me $40 for each day that I worked for you. Legally speaking this constitutes a contract: I agreed to work for your company & your company agreed to pay me. I fulfilled my terms by working and [company name] has a legal obligation to fulfill its terms by sending me the agreed-upon payment. Please consult with your company s attorney for clarification on contract and employment law. If you continue to refuse to process my paycheck I will file a complaint with the [state] Department of Labor on 12 18 14 as the DoL asks that I give you 6 days to rectify your failure to pay. I don t need advice at this point but I m just baffled that the company is still refusing to pay me. They are an established marketing agency with dozens of big-name clients and years in the industry. How can they have such a ridiculous policy in place? | Thats the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Someone must have screwed up and is trying to cover their ass. | Were you an employee or an independent contractor? You may have to sue them if you were an IC. And how could you compete against them anyway? A non-compete that said you couldn t work other events if that is your livelihood would almost certainly be unenforceable anyway. > They replied: We have no legal obligation to pay you until a contract is established. They are technically correct however as you aptly pointed out there is a contract. | 205 | 64 |
2pf2da | 66 | Another child s parent wants me to pay the medical bill for their child s allergic reaction in my home. My daughter had a sleepover. Prior to the sleepover I asked the other mother on the phone there was anything we should be aware of such as allergies or medications. She said Nothing that will come up during a sleepover and laughed. We got frozen yogurt and her son ate something with peanuts. It s a serve yourself place so he picked his ice cream and toppings and everything and apparently something had peanuts. I wasn t watching him that closely because I didn t know we had anything to worry about. Then he had trouble breathing. Luckily we were only two blocks from the nearest emergency room. Everything was fine in the end. Apparently he has been prescribed an epi-pen used to combat an allergic response but she did not send it with him. When she arrived at the hospital she was upset at how he could possibly come in contact with peanuts during a simple sleepover. Today she called and left a message on our answering machine saying that she received the ER bill what the amount was and that she hopes [I m] willing to pay it so we can avoid making this a legal issue. My question: I know that if a kid trips and gets hurt in my home I could be liable and it s an issue for my homeowner s insurance. Do I also need to contact this to my homeowner s insurance? And how likely is it that I will be found responsible for the cost? We live in Vermont. | > how he could possibly come in contact with peanuts during a simple sleepover. She is a dumbass. They re frigging peanuts they re everywhere. It s not like the poor child is allergic to sea urchin and he just happened to stumble across it in your kitchen. To answer your legal question since you didn t feed him peanuts on purpose the worst thing she could possibly sue you for is negligence. But the essence of negligence is failing to act like a reasonable person would and you didn t do that. You *asked* her if he had any allergies and she essentially told you no. I seriously doubt she could get a judge or a jury to answer yes on a negligence question for you and even if she could I can t see a reasonable jury measuring her own negligence at less than 50%. And if a jury found her negligence was more than 50% to blame for the injury then based on [this statute](http: www.leg.state.vt.us statutes fullsection.cfm?Title=12& Chapter=027& Section=01036) it looks like she would be barred from all recovery in Vermont. TL DR: > And how likely is it that I will be found responsible for the cost? Incredibly unlikely. Edit: I still can t wrap my brain around Nothing that will come up during a sleepover about PEANUTS like peanuts are this crazy exotic thing that you might come across once in a lifetime instead of something that millions of American kids eat every damn day. Why wouldn t she tell you he s allergic to PEANUTS for Christ s sake? Does she want her kid to die? | She s a complete moron. Peanuts are most certainly something that someone could come in contact with at a sleepover or indeed day to day | 62 | 10 |
2phpds | 90 | Washington State- uphill adjacent developer is rerouting a seasonal stream away from his house that s being built in the middle of the stream and into my parents chicken coop and vegetable garden. So my parents live in Washington State. The empty lot that is adjacent and uphill from theirs was recently sold and now a house is going up. There is a seasonal stream that pops up whenever it rains (which is a lot) ranging from either an inch or two to five or six inches of water. The developer didn t believe my dad when he told him about the seasonal water neither did the city. The permits were approved and development began with the house right in the middle of the area that gets flooded. I should mention that when looking at a map of the topography of this lot there is a very clear depression that runs through that lot as well as my parents and all the other properties that experience that water. Anyway almost as soon as building started so did the rain and a bunch of stuff got badly damaged. The cement septic tank was bobbing like a cork because the hole they dug for it pretty much became a pond. The developer realized he d made a big mistake putting the house there but the foundation was already in so this last week he dug a large ditch from the house over about 60 feet to try and divert the water. This now means that the diverted water will flow right across my parents large vegetable garden as well as a large chicken coop they have. It s hard to say exactly what the effect will be but there will definitely be some kind of damage. The city has been contacted numerous times and they have been shown video of all this. They basically just say they ll get back to us every time. I m not sure what the legality of rerouting the water is or if we even have a legal right to try and make him divert the water back. Any insight or advice would be greatly appreciated. http: imgur.com BnFRsME **Edit 1: So first of all thanks for all the advice this is very new to me so I really appreciate it. I m helping my parents draft a letter that we ll have an attorney edit and then send certified copies to the developer and city. There is no imminent threat of damage but there will be at some point if we don t take care of it. Hopefully there s no fuss and the guy just reroutes it back onto its original course as it enters my parents property. If anyone is interested in seeing the developers lovely new septic tank water feature I ll add a picture. (it s brown because it s muddy not because there s sewage although the tank is filled with water in a vain attempt to sink it back down).** | The law regarding surface water in Washington State is governed by the common enemy doctrine. The common enemy doctrine allows landowners to dispose of unwanted surface water in any manner without liability for any resulting damage to adjoining property. There are two exceptions though that I think apply here. A landowner may not artificially collect water and then channel it onto his neighbors land sending more than would have otherwise gone. Also a landowner owner must exercise due care in improving his land to minimize unnecessary surface water impacts upon adjacent lands. The first exception he s digging ditches. He s clearly channeling water on your parents property. This is a violation. See Wilber Dev. Corp. v. Les Rowland Constr. Inc. ( Ruling: Surface waters may not be artificially collected and discharged upon adjoining lands in quantities greater than or in a manner different from the natural flow thereof. ) As for the second part if there s another less destructive way that the developer can divert the water he has to do it even if it costs a little more so that s another possible angle. Here s another thing. If you re going to do something about it you have to act *now*. Send a certified letter telling the developer to stop doing that. | Send a certified letter to the City and permit office. Also file a complaint with the state (Dept of Ecology?). Look here... http: www.ecy.wa.gov programs wr comp_enforce comp_enfor.html http: www.ecy.wa.gov programs wr instream-flows isfhm.html http: www.ecy.wa.gov programs wr instream-flows isfrul.html and here... http: www.google.com url?sa=t& rct=j& q=& esrc=s& source=web& cd=2& ved=0CCYQFjAB& url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsdot.wa.gov%2FNR%2Frdonlyres%2F92B78B4D-8951-414A-9E31-A8A0F2DC3523%2F0%2FStreamDiversionTemplate.docx& ei=qX-QVO_tEMqzggT3joCgBw& usg=AFQjCNE2U8XLXewDcmW2P4vmk6E7rg1NTg& bvm=bv.81828268 d.eXY There seems to be quite a few laws governing streams in Washington State. Not sure if seasonal vs full time makes a large difference but contact the Ecology department in Washington and ask them. | 91 | 20 |
2picej | 31 | Pulled over cop loses your license. Now what? Inspired [by this post](http: www.reddit.com r AmIFreeToGo comments 2ph5zl wheres_the_line_between_exercising_your_rights cmwpno9): > [Cop] dropped my drivers license in the crack of my trunk (yeah right) and asked me to open my trunk so he could get it out. Now what? That s a slimy excuse to look inside your trunk. And you obviously do not consent to a a search. Could eventual evidence (dime bag bong pipe bootleg [Charleston Chews](http: www.tootsie.com candy charleston-chew-bars) whatever) be suppressed? | I would officer but that would constitute at least giving you plain sight search of my trunk. Given this is a mere traffic stop not really comfortable with that. If you will step into your cruiser I ll gladly let you hold my keys so I can t leave and I will open the trunk and retrieve the ID for you and alert you once my trunk is secure. Or you can give me the ticket using my name and information on my registration and I will retrieve my ID when I am home. Don t want to be a annoying but my dad would be some disappointed in me if I authorized a search of my truck under such means. He is kinda of a constitutional amendment nut. | Well accidents happen so it may not really be a ploy. If you don t want to open your trunk – just politely tell the officer that you will get it out when you get home. | 115 | 14 |
2pky1p | 369 | Is what this guy is doing legal?! [NC] Apparently this guy every year watches me sleep he knows when I m awake he knows if I ve been bad or good. This guy is stalking me. Now that is not what I am asking about. What I really need to know is this guy he goes by the name Santa Claus he comes down my chimney every year in December and leaves these presents under my tree. Now I am not complaining 9 10 of the presents are good presents. But is this legal? | It is not legal however Mr. Claus is a representative of his government and as such has diplomatic immunity. The most we can do is declare him *persona non grata* and deport him however given that Mr. Claus uses private transport that does not get security screening **and** there is no incontrovertible evidence that Mr. Claus is participating in these schemes the State Department is reluctant to pursue such action. | Call 911 if someone is stalking you | 239 | 24 |
2plb7m | 119 | 3rd Update - Worked two day event for company and now they want me to sign a non-compete agreement before paying me for my work. Can they do that? Short summary of previous threads: I worked for a company. Afterwards they asked me to sign a contract. I refused. They stated they would not pay me until I signed the contract. I stated I would file a DoL complaint on 12 18 (tomorrow) if they did not send me my paycheck. Today I received an email from the president of the company. It read: > Since you refuse to sign our contract – you will need to sign this release form in order for us to send your check. It must be signed in front of a witness in order for it to be complete. Once we receive this completed form we will send your check via US Mail. Here is a link to the document they sent me. The yellow bar is my name and the black bar is the name of the company. The $92 is the pay and parking reimbursement they owe me. http: imgur.com B63CHqy So legaladvice what do you recommend? I don t have a pressing need for the money and in my mind this is just as inappropriate a request as asking me to sign a contract with them. I worked for them they have to pay me. I don t have any obligation to sign any additional agreements with them and I am fully prepared to file a complaint with the DoL tomorrow unless you guys disagree with my interpretation. | Do you like seeing the world burn? Do you want this guy s heart rate to spike? If you are like me and would answer yes to both of those questions I would tell him to get bent you re not signing a damn thing he gives you and he has until 5PM today to have a check out to you or you re filing tomorrow. You have no obligation to sign anything and he has no NO leverage over you. If you just want to end it and get your money you can sign. Or if you file a claim with the DoL he ll catch some heat and all of these emails with offers are great evidence for the DoL that he s not disputing he owes you the money and he s just being a jack-off. And frankly if it was me and he was still playing these bullshit games I would do everything I can to make his life as difficult as possible. And if that means having the DoL up his ass for a while then so be it. | I wouldn t sign it. I think you should rake the clowns over the coals. | 154 | 31 |
2plb7m | 119 | 3rd Update - Worked two day event for company and now they want me to sign a non-compete agreement before paying me for my work. Can they do that? Short summary of previous threads: I worked for a company. Afterwards they asked me to sign a contract. I refused. They stated they would not pay me until I signed the contract. I stated I would file a DoL complaint on 12 18 (tomorrow) if they did not send me my paycheck. Today I received an email from the president of the company. It read: > Since you refuse to sign our contract – you will need to sign this release form in order for us to send your check. It must be signed in front of a witness in order for it to be complete. Once we receive this completed form we will send your check via US Mail. Here is a link to the document they sent me. The yellow bar is my name and the black bar is the name of the company. The $92 is the pay and parking reimbursement they owe me. http: imgur.com B63CHqy So legaladvice what do you recommend? I don t have a pressing need for the money and in my mind this is just as inappropriate a request as asking me to sign a contract with them. I worked for them they have to pay me. I don t have any obligation to sign any additional agreements with them and I am fully prepared to file a complaint with the DoL tomorrow unless you guys disagree with my interpretation. | Do you like seeing the world burn? Do you want this guy s heart rate to spike? If you are like me and would answer yes to both of those questions I would tell him to get bent you re not signing a damn thing he gives you and he has until 5PM today to have a check out to you or you re filing tomorrow. You have no obligation to sign anything and he has no NO leverage over you. If you just want to end it and get your money you can sign. Or if you file a claim with the DoL he ll catch some heat and all of these emails with offers are great evidence for the DoL that he s not disputing he owes you the money and he s just being a jack-off. And frankly if it was me and he was still playing these bullshit games I would do everything I can to make his life as difficult as possible. And if that means having the DoL up his ass for a while then so be it. | They re trying to get you to sign this release now because they re afraid of you suing likely due to you mentioning the option of reporting them to the Department of Labor. Not going to try to give advice since I m not knowledgeable in employment law but I just want to say I ve been following this saga since the beginning and the whole thing is just so ridiculous. | 154 | 49 |
2pmap6 | 223 | [UPDATE] Got my iPad back. I posted [here](http: www.reddit.com r legaladvice comments 2owbg3 someone_filed_a_theft_report_saying_i_stole ) about a crazy in the neighborhood who claimed I stole her iPad. She brought a cop to pick it up and the cop refused to hear my side and she got to leave with it. I went down to the police station a couple of times with no luck. I asked to talk to one of the detectives who deal with stolen property and one actually came out to talk to me...then another cop came over and said they know about the situation and it s already being handled. Then they pretty much brushed me off. The officer s supervisor wasn t helpful. He basically said she filed a theft report and gave identifying information. I pushed and he said he d look into it. I gave him the serial number of the iPad that I owned which he asked for. He called the next day and said she was able to identify the serial number of her own iPad. That is about the stupidest thing in the world because she physically had the iPad so of course she can find the serial number. I was going to file in small claims court. In the mean time I had posted an angry Facebook rant and a family friend said to come visit him at work. He is a cop in a nearby town and told someone higher up there about the situation. That person went to the local PD and I don t know what he said but it worked. They recovered it for me and I got to go pick it up yesterday. Fortunately there were no accounts logged in or important data saved. I have also given copies of both police reports to the homeowner s association here. They said that she can be penalized for harassing actions against neighbors. Thanks for everyone s advice on it! | > He called the next day and said she was able to identify the serial number of her own iPad. That is about the stupidest thing in the world because she physically had the iPad so of course she can find the serial number. I really hope this guy doesn t investigate serious crime. Congrats on wading through all that. | So glad it worked out for you. | 76 | 5 |
2pmap6 | 223 | [UPDATE] Got my iPad back. I posted [here](http: www.reddit.com r legaladvice comments 2owbg3 someone_filed_a_theft_report_saying_i_stole ) about a crazy in the neighborhood who claimed I stole her iPad. She brought a cop to pick it up and the cop refused to hear my side and she got to leave with it. I went down to the police station a couple of times with no luck. I asked to talk to one of the detectives who deal with stolen property and one actually came out to talk to me...then another cop came over and said they know about the situation and it s already being handled. Then they pretty much brushed me off. The officer s supervisor wasn t helpful. He basically said she filed a theft report and gave identifying information. I pushed and he said he d look into it. I gave him the serial number of the iPad that I owned which he asked for. He called the next day and said she was able to identify the serial number of her own iPad. That is about the stupidest thing in the world because she physically had the iPad so of course she can find the serial number. I was going to file in small claims court. In the mean time I had posted an angry Facebook rant and a family friend said to come visit him at work. He is a cop in a nearby town and told someone higher up there about the situation. That person went to the local PD and I don t know what he said but it worked. They recovered it for me and I got to go pick it up yesterday. Fortunately there were no accounts logged in or important data saved. I have also given copies of both police reports to the homeowner s association here. They said that she can be penalized for harassing actions against neighbors. Thanks for everyone s advice on it! | > He called the next day and said she was able to identify the serial number of her own iPad. That is about the stupidest thing in the world because she physically had the iPad so of course she can find the serial number. I really hope this guy doesn t investigate serious crime. Congrats on wading through all that. | That s pretty awesome. Sucks when people are bastards like that. Do you have a security code on it now? So she can t try to get it again. | 76 | 5 |
2pmap6 | 223 | [UPDATE] Got my iPad back. I posted [here](http: www.reddit.com r legaladvice comments 2owbg3 someone_filed_a_theft_report_saying_i_stole ) about a crazy in the neighborhood who claimed I stole her iPad. She brought a cop to pick it up and the cop refused to hear my side and she got to leave with it. I went down to the police station a couple of times with no luck. I asked to talk to one of the detectives who deal with stolen property and one actually came out to talk to me...then another cop came over and said they know about the situation and it s already being handled. Then they pretty much brushed me off. The officer s supervisor wasn t helpful. He basically said she filed a theft report and gave identifying information. I pushed and he said he d look into it. I gave him the serial number of the iPad that I owned which he asked for. He called the next day and said she was able to identify the serial number of her own iPad. That is about the stupidest thing in the world because she physically had the iPad so of course she can find the serial number. I was going to file in small claims court. In the mean time I had posted an angry Facebook rant and a family friend said to come visit him at work. He is a cop in a nearby town and told someone higher up there about the situation. That person went to the local PD and I don t know what he said but it worked. They recovered it for me and I got to go pick it up yesterday. Fortunately there were no accounts logged in or important data saved. I have also given copies of both police reports to the homeowner s association here. They said that she can be penalized for harassing actions against neighbors. Thanks for everyone s advice on it! | > He called the next day and said she was able to identify the serial number of her own iPad. That is about the stupidest thing in the world because she physically had the iPad so of course she can find the serial number. I really hope this guy doesn t investigate serious crime. Congrats on wading through all that. | aaah awesome! Thanks so much for the update that was messed up. Kind of sucks that if you didn t know someone you would have been screwed. | 76 | 6 |
2pmap6 | 223 | [UPDATE] Got my iPad back. I posted [here](http: www.reddit.com r legaladvice comments 2owbg3 someone_filed_a_theft_report_saying_i_stole ) about a crazy in the neighborhood who claimed I stole her iPad. She brought a cop to pick it up and the cop refused to hear my side and she got to leave with it. I went down to the police station a couple of times with no luck. I asked to talk to one of the detectives who deal with stolen property and one actually came out to talk to me...then another cop came over and said they know about the situation and it s already being handled. Then they pretty much brushed me off. The officer s supervisor wasn t helpful. He basically said she filed a theft report and gave identifying information. I pushed and he said he d look into it. I gave him the serial number of the iPad that I owned which he asked for. He called the next day and said she was able to identify the serial number of her own iPad. That is about the stupidest thing in the world because she physically had the iPad so of course she can find the serial number. I was going to file in small claims court. In the mean time I had posted an angry Facebook rant and a family friend said to come visit him at work. He is a cop in a nearby town and told someone higher up there about the situation. That person went to the local PD and I don t know what he said but it worked. They recovered it for me and I got to go pick it up yesterday. Fortunately there were no accounts logged in or important data saved. I have also given copies of both police reports to the homeowner s association here. They said that she can be penalized for harassing actions against neighbors. Thanks for everyone s advice on it! | > He called the next day and said she was able to identify the serial number of her own iPad. That is about the stupidest thing in the world because she physically had the iPad so of course she can find the serial number. I really hope this guy doesn t investigate serious crime. Congrats on wading through all that. | Yaaaaay! I ve been waiting for an update to this story. I m so glad it turned out alright. I hope she gets in trouble for filing a false police report and good idea to turn those reports in to the HOA! Congrats! | 76 | 9 |
2pmap6 | 223 | [UPDATE] Got my iPad back. I posted [here](http: www.reddit.com r legaladvice comments 2owbg3 someone_filed_a_theft_report_saying_i_stole ) about a crazy in the neighborhood who claimed I stole her iPad. She brought a cop to pick it up and the cop refused to hear my side and she got to leave with it. I went down to the police station a couple of times with no luck. I asked to talk to one of the detectives who deal with stolen property and one actually came out to talk to me...then another cop came over and said they know about the situation and it s already being handled. Then they pretty much brushed me off. The officer s supervisor wasn t helpful. He basically said she filed a theft report and gave identifying information. I pushed and he said he d look into it. I gave him the serial number of the iPad that I owned which he asked for. He called the next day and said she was able to identify the serial number of her own iPad. That is about the stupidest thing in the world because she physically had the iPad so of course she can find the serial number. I was going to file in small claims court. In the mean time I had posted an angry Facebook rant and a family friend said to come visit him at work. He is a cop in a nearby town and told someone higher up there about the situation. That person went to the local PD and I don t know what he said but it worked. They recovered it for me and I got to go pick it up yesterday. Fortunately there were no accounts logged in or important data saved. I have also given copies of both police reports to the homeowner s association here. They said that she can be penalized for harassing actions against neighbors. Thanks for everyone s advice on it! | > He called the next day and said she was able to identify the serial number of her own iPad. That is about the stupidest thing in the world because she physically had the iPad so of course she can find the serial number. I really hope this guy doesn t investigate serious crime. Congrats on wading through all that. | Good to know sanity prevailed even though your entire local PD was incompetent. Congrats and just in time for the holidays. | 76 | 19 |
2poh52 | 98 | Took a second job because I couldn t afford child support. Now ex wants to increase child support based on second job. When I got divorced my ex didn t have a job. That made payments 600 a month. I couldn t afford that so I got a second job earning 600 a month. Now she s quit her job making as much as me with both jobs combined to work on commission from home. She s living with her boyfriend too. My problem is that now she s asking for 1100 a month. And she s says once the child support worksheet goes through that s how much I ll pay. Anything I can do? There s two children under 18. We are in GA USA. Thanks. | Ask for a hearing and be prepared to provide proof that she quit her job voluntarily and is able to be employed but chooses not to. Can you grab screenshots of her LinkedIn profile online? You d be surprised how many people have one - that is how my ex was able to prove willful unemployment voluntary underemployment of his ex. | You can check the child support work sheet (Google). But yes if you make more money your support amount goes up. | 96 | 21 |
2poh52 | 98 | Took a second job because I couldn t afford child support. Now ex wants to increase child support based on second job. When I got divorced my ex didn t have a job. That made payments 600 a month. I couldn t afford that so I got a second job earning 600 a month. Now she s quit her job making as much as me with both jobs combined to work on commission from home. She s living with her boyfriend too. My problem is that now she s asking for 1100 a month. And she s says once the child support worksheet goes through that s how much I ll pay. Anything I can do? There s two children under 18. We are in GA USA. Thanks. | Ask for a hearing and be prepared to provide proof that she quit her job voluntarily and is able to be employed but chooses not to. Can you grab screenshots of her LinkedIn profile online? You d be surprised how many people have one - that is how my ex was able to prove willful unemployment voluntary underemployment of his ex. | > Anything I can do? Sure. Ask for a hearing(if one isn t automatically granted) and explain your objections. | 96 | 41 |
2ps1v3 | 61 | Can HR disclose the nature of a medical issue if an employee takes a medical leave of absence? My husband tried to commit suicide yesterday. I told his boss he was in the hospital but not why. His boss told me I need to contact HR and set up a leave of absence since he will have missed 3 consecutive days. If i do that an disclose that he tried to kill himself and is in the psych ward will that get back to his manager? Are they allowed to tell his supervisor what the medical issue is? We live in Kentucky but it is a national company. | You don t need to disclose that to HR either. If your husband is eligible for FMLA submit a Certification of Health Care Provider for Employee s Serious Health Condition which is a standardized form. It does not require the medical provider to name the exact condition or nature of the medical issue. | *I am a bot whose sole purpose is to improve the timeliness and accuracy of responses in this subreddit.* --- **It appears you forgot to include your location in the title or body of your post.** **Please update the original post to include this information.** --- [Report Inaccuracies Here](http: www.reddit.com r LocationBot ) | [Author](http: reddit.com u ianp) | 80 | 2 |
2pt84z | 199 | Ex-wife forged signature in effort to have child not sure about lawyer situation. Neither my ex-wife nor I wanted children when we got married. It was complicated by the fact that I have a genetic condition that I could pass on which I did not want to happen. I figured if we ever wanted children we would adopt. I got a vasectomy. However with medical advancements every day out of hopefulness that someday my condition would not the harsh sentence it is now I had sperm frozen at a sperm bank prior to getting my vasectomy. That was early in our marriage and I haven t thought of it much since. Our divorce was finalized in October. A few days ago I got a letter in the mail billing me for the transfer of my sperm to a medical facility. I thought it was a mistake and contacted them. The way things were set up if I died or something my wife could do whatever she wanted with the sperm. As long as I am alive I have to sign off on it. According to our documentation on this process I was supposed to sign in-person at the facility. However they allowed my wife to take the form with her to have me sign it and she forged my signature for them to transfer the sperm to a facility to impregnate her with. Of course this is not ideal. That is the biggest understatement. I do not want children plain and simple. I like other peoples kids but I am happy childfree. In addition to the fact that this is huge on a personal level (being a dad) there are also huge financial ramifications. Upon learning that I did not sign the form myself and realizing that this is a result of them not following the policy in our contract the sperm bank has pulled out their legal ammunition. They told me that they have contacted the medical facility my wife had it sent to to halt any activity with it and they are in the process of determining whether there was any attempt to impregnate her. They said the law firm is already in the process of getting a court order against the use of the sperm but they admitted it is not something they have seen before so they are in weird territory. They have asked me to attend a meeting tomorrow morning with their legal counsel. The law firm they have arranged for is an incredibly expensive and apparently incredibly successful firm from what I can tell. The sperm bank has told me that they would like to extend the firm s services to me for this process and will cover all associated costs. I called and talked to someone from the law firm and they said that I will have my own contract for their services and the sperm bank has agreed to cover all costs. On one hand I believe they want me to join them and use their lawyer so that I stick to being against my ex-wife instead of being against her AND the sperm bank. So they are trying to protect themselves and that makes me nervous about using them. On the other hand this law firm is much more than I can afford on my own. If I get a lawyer I can afford I don t want to risk the sperm bank turning against me instead of being teamed up with me and their powerful law firm crushing whatever lawyer I find in my budget. I got a consultation with a lawyer this morning and he told me I need my own lawyer but he phrased it like I need him specifically. e.g. me saying So you re saying I should hire my own legal defense and he responded I am saying you need to hire ME. I am the best lawyer in the city who can fight this for you. So I don t know if he s advising me to pay for a lawyer myself because I would be better off or because he wants to be my lawyer for the sake of having another client to make money off. I have no idea what I should do and what the best situation would be to tackle this. Hopefully nothing has come of this and we are only talking about a matter of forging my signature. But if she does become pregnant it is going to be a huge thing. Please give me any advice or thoughts you have regarding my lawyer dilemma or alternatives. Thank you. | Right now you and the sperm bank are on the same side trying to make sure your ex-wife can t use the banked sperm to impregnate herself. IF you find out that she did manage to do that THEN you end up with a claim against the sperm bank and you may be on opposite sides in a fight. So I would not sign on with their attorney but I would cooperate with them to try to stop the use of the sperm. And I do agree that you should destroy that sample or at least remove your ex-wife s ability to access it. I do not think you would be legally on the hook for child support since historically courts have not held sperm donors liable unless they voluntarily assumed the liability. That said court is an expensive and messy place. So hopefully you can stop this before it gets that far. | MN | 93 | 10 |
2pt84z | 199 | Ex-wife forged signature in effort to have child not sure about lawyer situation. Neither my ex-wife nor I wanted children when we got married. It was complicated by the fact that I have a genetic condition that I could pass on which I did not want to happen. I figured if we ever wanted children we would adopt. I got a vasectomy. However with medical advancements every day out of hopefulness that someday my condition would not the harsh sentence it is now I had sperm frozen at a sperm bank prior to getting my vasectomy. That was early in our marriage and I haven t thought of it much since. Our divorce was finalized in October. A few days ago I got a letter in the mail billing me for the transfer of my sperm to a medical facility. I thought it was a mistake and contacted them. The way things were set up if I died or something my wife could do whatever she wanted with the sperm. As long as I am alive I have to sign off on it. According to our documentation on this process I was supposed to sign in-person at the facility. However they allowed my wife to take the form with her to have me sign it and she forged my signature for them to transfer the sperm to a facility to impregnate her with. Of course this is not ideal. That is the biggest understatement. I do not want children plain and simple. I like other peoples kids but I am happy childfree. In addition to the fact that this is huge on a personal level (being a dad) there are also huge financial ramifications. Upon learning that I did not sign the form myself and realizing that this is a result of them not following the policy in our contract the sperm bank has pulled out their legal ammunition. They told me that they have contacted the medical facility my wife had it sent to to halt any activity with it and they are in the process of determining whether there was any attempt to impregnate her. They said the law firm is already in the process of getting a court order against the use of the sperm but they admitted it is not something they have seen before so they are in weird territory. They have asked me to attend a meeting tomorrow morning with their legal counsel. The law firm they have arranged for is an incredibly expensive and apparently incredibly successful firm from what I can tell. The sperm bank has told me that they would like to extend the firm s services to me for this process and will cover all associated costs. I called and talked to someone from the law firm and they said that I will have my own contract for their services and the sperm bank has agreed to cover all costs. On one hand I believe they want me to join them and use their lawyer so that I stick to being against my ex-wife instead of being against her AND the sperm bank. So they are trying to protect themselves and that makes me nervous about using them. On the other hand this law firm is much more than I can afford on my own. If I get a lawyer I can afford I don t want to risk the sperm bank turning against me instead of being teamed up with me and their powerful law firm crushing whatever lawyer I find in my budget. I got a consultation with a lawyer this morning and he told me I need my own lawyer but he phrased it like I need him specifically. e.g. me saying So you re saying I should hire my own legal defense and he responded I am saying you need to hire ME. I am the best lawyer in the city who can fight this for you. So I don t know if he s advising me to pay for a lawyer myself because I would be better off or because he wants to be my lawyer for the sake of having another client to make money off. I have no idea what I should do and what the best situation would be to tackle this. Hopefully nothing has come of this and we are only talking about a matter of forging my signature. But if she does become pregnant it is going to be a huge thing. Please give me any advice or thoughts you have regarding my lawyer dilemma or alternatives. Thank you. | Right now you and the sperm bank are on the same side trying to make sure your ex-wife can t use the banked sperm to impregnate herself. IF you find out that she did manage to do that THEN you end up with a claim against the sperm bank and you may be on opposite sides in a fight. So I would not sign on with their attorney but I would cooperate with them to try to stop the use of the sperm. And I do agree that you should destroy that sample or at least remove your ex-wife s ability to access it. I do not think you would be legally on the hook for child support since historically courts have not held sperm donors liable unless they voluntarily assumed the liability. That said court is an expensive and messy place. So hopefully you can stop this before it gets that far. | I m not sure you would be on the hook for any child support here. At least it s fair to say the water is murky. You might make national headlines if your wife was able to conceive using your stolen sperm. If you can verify that there wasn t a successful implantation then you re back to where you started. At that point what would you want to happen? The practical suggestion to eliminate any chance of having offspring is to destroy your frozen little guys. | 93 | 19 |
2pyma3 | 53 | Are people like Judge Judy and Judge Alex real judges? Are the cases they see on TV real cases that are reported to the state? Somewhere Florida USA | Judge Judy and the rest of the television judges were real judges at some time in the past. They are not acting as real judges on television. What you see on tv is a binding arbitration which makes the judges private arbitrators of a dispute. Producers survey small claims filings and contact litigants to see if they want to be on the show. The litigants then sign a contract agreeing to binding arbitration. In exchange the show has a fund that pays out the awards. Because these are technically private proceedings nothing is reported to the states in which they were originally filed. | No it s arbitration. However Judge Judy is a real lawyer. I have no clue who that other person is. | 82 | 18 |
2q68ki | 140 | We gave someone a couch they died wife s ring turned out to be inside the couch being sold by the deceased s family. Virginia - - My wife took her wedding ring off while painting thought it was on the coffee table we never found it again. I swear we looked through the couch a hundred times and yet that s where it was. If only we d known that at the time. Meanwhile we got new furniture. We gave away our old furniture to a woman whose house had burnt down and she was starting over with nothing. She has died and her family found the wedding ring inside the couch. They have put it up for sale. I called them and explained that it was my wife s and the ring was not intended to be given with the couch. They basically said finder s keepers. I also sent the request in writing and got no response. What can we do? Is it legally theirs since we gave them the couch it was in? Or do we have a right to it back? If that s the case can we just go to the police station and say our item is in someone else s hands and we want it back or do we need to sue them? Thanks. | > Is it legally theirs since we gave them the couch it was in? No. > Or do we have a right to it back? Yes. > If that s the case can we just go to the police station and say our item is in someone else s hands and we want it back or do we need to sue them? Call the police and ask. | What s the timeline? | 97 | 4 |