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So they ll have like 5 games in total to give awards..maybe... |
I may be wrong, but gender discrimination is illegal in EU, so you can't actually have gender quotas when hiring. |
Hearing standard A I thought these people have their heads firmly up their "Censored" and then at standard B I felt like I could quote Kylo - which yes, I hate to admit. Kill it, if you must... preferably with fire. Let it be cleansed, and from the ashes in the dust, blown by a calming wind out of our sight. Next time I'll just write Be Gone, Thought. |
Well they can keep their awards and shove it up where the sun don’t shine. |
This is complete insanity. This is written by a total moron with zero respect for game dev's works. If this does not show how pointless and useless BAFTA is, I don't know what will. |
Remember minorities, you're and always will be oppressed |
Does anyone care about BAFTA awards?<br>Any game that has one moving forward, is a game you'll know to avoid. |
"Representation". Those who believe that something such as sex, sexuality, race etc. is something that defines them and thus represents them should not be people that are taken seriously. |
This is liber-fashism .... in which censure isn't explicitly stated, the censure in the LGBT way ...<br>At least we know what games are just propaganda. |
Baf..WHO? |
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the only way that my brain can possibly spin this is if in the distant future (provided humanity doesnt pull some crazy shenanigans and wipe itself out) the world has become evenly distributed across all lands and nations this miiiiiiiight be possible... soooo forward thinking?<br>but yeah no this is going to be imposing some impossible standards on game designers. |
So I’m not sure which country is worse off at the moment. The United States or Great Britain. <br><br>For the US we have the obvious outside dismay going on in different subjects. While Great Britain also have similar situations going on right now, I find it very alarming that this is happening though not surprising. Since they allowed people to alert authorities of speaking online about topics they don’t agree with to be arrested for free speech and or hefty fines towards the supposed perpetrators. <br><br>We may look like we are worse off on the outside but Great Britain is definitely doing some seriously worrisome and nefarious policing hidden on the inside. <br><br>I rather someone tell me they don’t like me but that we could still work together at a job then someone smiling and waving pretending to be your friend only to turn around and talk about how much of a POS you are whole never showing nor admitting to it. To me right now that’s the difference |
I didn't even know BAFT existed. |
"A document on a site with no links to it? sounds a bit fishy. <br>Here is a link to the link to BAFTA awards winners for games over the last few years: <a href=""http://www.bafta.org/media-centre/games"">http://www.bafta.org/media-centre/games</a><br>Wouldn't call BAFTA too focused on social justice." |
It kills creativity. I hope BAFTA sinks. |
“Must show all white males getting slaughtered or jizzed on in no particular order.” -blue check marked danger hair |
Finally an Award to look out for on a game... If it is on the package, you can safely not buy it |
Was this requirements created just for TLoU2 to win a guaranteed "academic" award? Seriously, what is this?! Do they think I'd buy a game from a reputably diverse studio just because they meet all of those? No! If the game is shit, it's shit! Even is my favourite auter directed it, which honestly would be the closest to caring about game creators, beside studio's name recognition, bad game still shouldn't be supported! F.E. - see Death Stranding. |
Wow... you'd think that because the overwhelming response to tlou2 was negative that the industry would move away from such domineering sjw ideolgy. But,Nope. Jus gonna dive head first into the shallow end. |
This has to be the most exclusive thing I've heard out of a supposedly established entity |
Honestly, no-one gives a hoot about the BAFTA's even here in Britain. The last show they did was as arse-clenchingly woke as the Oscars, just without anyone famous attending apart from Joaquin Phoenix, who gave us all a lecture on systemic racism, and Prince William announcing the lack of ethnic diversity in the British film industry was a great personal concern of his. |
What this all means is, you should say to hell with awards because they ultimately don't mean anything, and just make what you want to make, the way you want to make it.<br><br>There's plenty of examples of what happens when you conform to these SJW checklists: Whatever you're making will suck. Be it comics, games, movies, shows, even music, if you try to jump through these hoops, the art will suffer for it.<br><br>STOP listening to Twitter, REEEsetEra, and these moronic award councils. They don't know what they're doing, obviously. You do. Make. Your. Art. |
first thing that comes to mind.... Are you F***ing kidding me... <br>Let's cancel humanity!! |
I wonder if you can rent a "diversity" for a day or week to pad the numbers? |
Jesus Christ, BAFTA is rotten to its leftist core. |
Another case of opressive political agendas being used to control media. |
I suppose you could have the employees engage in self harm to the point of a few becoming disabled. |
I think its ok that BAFTA is supporting development teams that achieve these criteria. |
Seeing how you were sponsored by BDO, any thoughts on Guild Wars 2? <br><br>Will give BDO a go though, it is free to try, so why not. |
OIII BRUV LOOKS LIKE YOU AINT GOT ENOUFFF DIVERSITYYYYYY IN YA GAME |
you could have the best game, the most immersive game, a game with flawless mechanics, not a single bug or glitch, a very positive score, pure perfection, BUT some game journalist finds that every character is straight<br><br>Bafta: nah mate maybe not |
Virtue signaling awards! |
Good thing no one anywhere actually cares about BAFTAs. They try to act like they're the British Academy Awards, but even in Britain nobody cares. |
one more thing that BAFTA f'ed up is im not sure how the law is in rest of eu but a company cant ask about your sexuality you can tell them but they cant ask you about it |
Historically accurate games before the latter part of the 20th century are out under this new dystopian paradigm. |
what do they mean with "identifying as deaf/disabled"?<br>you either are disabled (verified by a doctor) or you ar not.<br>you can't just "identify" as a disabled person.....??? |
Can't help but notice the language used includes "identifying as". No way that someone could abuse this and have enough people on their team "identify" as needed, and they shouldn't be able to dispute this without destroying their whole narrative. |
Its Marxism. Literally all it is. |
I had no idea this awards group was a thing . Still don't care ,as I never used them as a reference for what games to get. |
Realm of possibility =/= realm of reason. |
Virtue Signaling, THE GAME! |
This is when Kojima says "I'mma make a game with a white male lead and anyone that hates that can suck it!"<br>Please never change Kojima. |
This is kinda bad reporting. Nowhere in the document does it say what these requirements are used for. For all we now they could be the requirements for "the most diverse game", in which case they sound pretty reasonable, since the bar for that kind of stuff is very high nowadays. For some reason you jumped right into "BAFTA is insane and has new requirements for ALL games in EVERY category (allegedly)!!!". |
So they are basically dictating what artists and writers should do. Now this sounds a lot like fascist regimes or the holy inquisition. Fuck 'em. |
Wow 🤢...Can't...compute 🤮 |
@Upper echelon gaming I wouldn't mind seeing a video on Black Desert online. |
It's the UK, stuff like this becomes law. on average, 6 people a day there are arrested for social media posts. In the US free speech is always under attack, in the UK it's already dead.,(reply>), So, all hail the Big Brother and the INGSOC?,(reply>), Yeah, I cant imagine the BAFTA awards existing without this kinda guidelines in the UK.,(reply>), Remember when they TOOK DOWN A COMMERCIAL for not having enough diversity?,(reply>), Well, I have VERY little respect for people that are so spineless that they don't even so much as fight back against blatant tyranny. Goddamn pathetic,(reply>), Gotta fight for it man. |
This new world view companies are trying to implement ignores all definitions of the word "equality". |
so fifa cant get an award. what about games that not about people like puzzel or platform games ?,(reply>), Then to qualify they'd have to forcefully insert gay deaf characters to meet the quota. Bonus points for calling it non-binary. |
This is absurd. |
When you read the first bit, I had to sit up and say damn... |
This has been going on in the indie scene for years, if someone wins an indie award you can be sure they: Sucked dicks, are part of some obnoxious clique with all the right opinions and/or has some kind of "oppressed" identity, usually all of the above. |
So despite ghost of Tsushima showing a culture not usually seen it won't be eligible because it only had asian characters in it and no black or Latin or LGBT characters in it then according to this logic |
So if I made a game about aliens or something, I would be in able to get a award? Like even if it was a masterpiece completely out of the realms of anything I could realistically do, |
At the end you make the mistake of assuming they are looking for the best game. They are not. They are looking for the best propaganda.<br>Also , stop promoting Black Desert online - the drm is a fucking root kit, |
That brief bit where the banner showed that Kojima received the BAFTA Fellowship? That's odd, since I don't think any of his games would qualify for nomination. |
A literal diversity checklist. As a man who seeks men, it's honestly more offensive to me to have a character like me included in a game just to tick a box. Plus, the 10% requirement is stupid and inaccurate. We only make up 5% of the population. |
i kinda wanna develop a game just to win so i can give a speech telling the bafta's to go fuck themselves |
Meh it’s criteria you don’t have to follow it, you don’t did their trophies to make trophies. It’s not a mentality but taste. I am not as shocked, nor concerned by it. It’s nothing new, nor is it getting any worst. It’s how it has always been when it comes to art, the people with the money dictate the arts that are celebrated based on their taste. |
Must be a joke |
This has the markings of Feminist frequency et al all over it. The language and terms used screams that they spoke to a very specific group of people to advise them on how to structure this. All it will mean is that even more people will look at any awards as the nonsense they are, when the win is so forced and manufactured, folk will just switch off. I would also love to hear the views of some LGBTQ folk in the industry as i bet they will 'LOVE' being handed a participation trophy, instead of being scored on their own merits. |
Two of the best ways to control a populace is to depreciate their art, and rewrite their history. Gaming happens to be a form of both,(reply>), @Kill Team Charlie maybe not now but games were once a form of art,(reply>), Yup games are really peak art form which includes music,art,story,cultural references,action and physical movements or virtual movements into one package. I wonder who would be behind this cultural degradation who knows.,(reply>), retro is the future lads. they can have the future of games but we'll always have the blueprints to make games. |
this is truly outrages... |
I don't know this bafta thingy and I don't think it's of any value to me |
I hope you are wrong as well, but the British "Arts" and "Entertainment" industry has been going this way for a long time. Look at the BBC and Dr Who. Just ignore them. It's time to move past even considering trying to get the MSM awards/critics approval. Concentrate on making whatever you love and if what you make is good the audience will follow. Simple as that.,(reply>), I've got a £5 bet on the next Doctor being black. I'm pretty confident in it but I'd be disappointed if I was right. It would simply mean that they are running through check boxes rather than giving the role to the person who shows the most ability to play the role. |
Great, now we can ask about sexual orientation on job applications and then hire tokens.<br><br>It is illegal to ask people their sexual orientation in job interviews. |
Imagine the job interview; "Are you gay? We want to win a BAFTA.",(reply>), This reminds me of what happened in the 70s and 80s when you had the token black character tossed in to every TV show, movie and visual media in a fake attempt to be progressive. These days you now have the token homosexual, the token transgender and so on. It's very disrespectful to these groups due to how their lifestyle choice has suddenly caused media to treat them as a novelty or gimmick. Something to draw atenntion to the creators in an attempt to get headlines, awards and free publicity. At the end of the day, if the character's sexuality has no bearing on the narrative then you don't suddenly have to toss in some random remark to try and be inclusive. I can honestly say that in most games the sexuality of the characters is never relevant to what is happening, so why should it even be a factor in deciding which game deserves an award?,(reply>), @G Balfour That didn't stop CW when they went looking for the Batwoman replacement.,(reply>), imagine the lawsuit bc in the US it is illegal to ask someone their sexual orientation. Haha |
ok punishing games that lack representation is not the right way to go but dont come crying when people ask for more representation in an industry that is OBSESSED by masculinity |
Diversity for diversity's sake is undesirable. Forced diversity creates resentment. |
I finally realized what fascism looks and feels like, and unfortunately, they're hiding under the guise of antifascist. |
This is crazy af," but it 's likely not going to be a thing:<br><br>SOURCE -> <a href=""http://www.bafta.org/media-centre/press-releases/games-awards-2021-entry-opens-diversity-standards-pilot"">http://www.bafta.org/media-centre/press-releases/games-awards-2021-entry-opens-diversity-standards-pilot</a><br><br>QUOTE -> BAFTA are asking entrants in the British Game category to participate in this pilot... Eligibility for 2021 Awards will not be affected." |
Okay, hold on. How does that even work with predominantly white countries like Poland (which is relevant this year due to CD Projekt Red and Cyberpunk 2077)? Minorities in Poland are like... 1% Silesians (if you can even call them minorities really at this point of assimilation really), Germans and Ukrainians at like 0,1/0,2% level, and all other minorities combine to not even 2% of the population, and only fraction of them will be non-white (basically foreign migrants from random countries, Romani, and Tatars). Does CDPR have to now over-hire Germans and Ukrainians to represent their minority groups... Or are those not the minorities that matter, and we are talking about minorities that "matter" in the context of USA/Western Europe? What, will they have to turn down domestic talent because they need to fill in quota of Black/Asian/Latino/Arab people to fill and will have to literally convince people from abroad to work here?<br><br>The answer is probably "IDK, no one was even thinking about it while drafting this ruleset". What a joke. Thankfully you can just not give a damn about it, game awards are laughable anyway, be it BAFTA, Jeff Keely's awards or random magazine "GAME OF THE YEAR" accolade. Let's hope this won't spread to the topics that actually do matter. |
Why would anyone work for BAFTA even before those unnecessary rules that benefit no one? Going for rewards is bad for art imo. I would never by anyone's bitch [looks at BAFTA].<br><br><br><br>Also pineapple and ranch pizza is what americans and brits deserve because Santa Claus is not real and Jesus didn't happen. |
Based on these new rules, the smaller a studio is, the less likely they are to win an award regardless of how good the game is. |
Just say all the characters are trans. |
Can we take a moment to realize that Golden eye of 97 would have never gotten a BAFTA award thanks to these critieria?<br><br>Man this year has been fucking insaine. The overton windows was shot out of the cannon! |
So basically BAFTA awards mean nothing now. |
How did I fucking know this was going to happen, after all the paid reviews it now seems like companies are setting up TLOU:2 to be the only game qualified to win GOTY, forget the very long awaited FF7 Remake or the most anticipated new rpg Cyberpunk, those wont qualify because they don't meet the same criteria as TLOU:2... |
So they only award 1 or 2 games with no runner ups? Well not like it matters, nobody will watch it and nobody will make games for the award just to have them flop. |
"Hey employee, are you LGBT because I need to do a head count for the BAFTA award?" - Don't think that's going to go down well!,(reply>), So true. They can hardly ask for an employee list with gender and sexual preferences. And any anonymous questionere could just be faked anyway. If the developer cared enough. (Which I doubt),(reply>), There's an app for that.. |
This is INSANE! |
BAFTA Awards are just a pack of luvvies pretending that their 'art' has transcendent value. Irrelevant before, irrelevant now, irrelevant in the future. |
Is this an out of season April Fool's Joke?,(reply>), Sorry red shirt man. This is real... |
Fuck the BAFTA AWARDS !<br>Make the game you want to make. Let the quality of the game speak for itself. The hardcore gamers don't pay attention to the mainstream. |
Now they have these requirements on paper. Imagine what was already going on in the last past years <b>behind</b> the scenes.<br>This is very bold, very retarded, disgusting gatekeeping behavior. Social justice inclusivity is not an answer, it's the problem. There can be no doubt about this anymore. |
What a bunch of liberal nut jobs. |
Standard #69 subsection 420: Make sure Dean Takahashi and Journo's can beat the tutorial. |
What is wrong with "you guys"?!? I never was asked if I like a female or male ever, when I apply for the jobs. How do they even get this values, do people ask this kind of stuff? Is that even legal? |
Are they a game award show or the history channel ? |
The Brits were funnier in the times of Monty Python |
I'm bafted that BAFTA would shoot themselves in the foot like that. Baftling!<br>P.S: If I understood everything right, a game like Ghost of Tsushima, from a studio with no outstanding history of crunch or bad practices, would be out of contention just for being set in feudal Japan. That's insane. |
It's a literal Politics CheckList to make your content woke. What the actual heck? |
The continued gaslighting of the past 20 years will have severe consequences once the affected join political carreers. <br>They will have the power to drive change even though their minds have completely detached from reality,(reply>), Ever listened to AOC? Remember when she "won" by getting Amazon to not open an NYC HQ - thus killing 20K jobs, because she "didn't want to spend tax money on Amazon by giving them tax breaks". She "forgot" that the money "lost" from tax breaks was orders of magnitude smaller than the tax <b>revenue</b> that the company and jobs would bring. XD Good work NYC voters!<br><br>That's the superstar of the Left. I'm not even sure her IQ is non-negative. |
Way to control artistic freedom. Not buying games that pushes an agenda. Only buys that are well design. |
you might think this is small because it is just a dumb award but I can almost guarantee that companies are employing many of these practices |
Forced representation, so they are trying to make all games woke. |
congrats on shilling out on p2w <br>but i get it they keep the lights running |
Hey look, token-ization instead of representation. |
Tiny hats are behind this agenda,(reply>), Obviously. The evidence is all over the place.,(reply>), They always are...,(reply>), Are we? |