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Wait a second...50-50 gender balance.<br>Are they still using...THE GENDER BINARY?!?!?!?!?!?!?<br>Uh oh Spaghettios,(reply>), The day when Spaghettio becomes a racial slur lol,(reply>), I would say that's a good joke, but let's be serious here, they would totally get in trouble if anyone bothered enough to read that document. And they would totally backpeddle and beg for forgiveness.,(reply>), Funny. The one time they inadvertently make a mistake (by their own standards, that is) is the one time that they are correct.,(reply>), You smart...i love u,(reply>), @G Balfour <b>DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT</b> |
Yeah sorry, BDO is not a "one time payment" game. The game is littered with microtransactions, many of them "pay to win". The endgame is atrocious, and is essentially nothing, but constant grinding. The absolute worst part though is how there are literal guides out there telling you what to purchase just to make the game somewhat playable. |
Yeah games doesn't need rewards to be good or popular. They can keep they cr*p |
So, Pong, Space Invaders, Missile Command, Combat etc etc aren't worthy of any awards because they don't even have characters, or settings in most cases. And a lot of games of that era were developed by one person. Games like that can't exist/be given awards. Absolutely crazy. |
So when were the fucking Bafta awards ever relevant for videogames? These awards are only worth what the community thinks they are worth. They are meaningless statues that businessmen gift each other, exactly like the Oscars. |
I mean this is nothing really new, just new that they put it down on paper instead of just being a back room requirement imo. That said it's funny some games can't even meet these requirements if they wanted to. You can't exactly achieve diversity in a puzzle game like say Tetris or a racing game like Need for Speed.<br><br>Plus exactly how are you supposed to find out if your workers are LBTQ? Seem some what invasive to ask are you gay on a job interview....,(reply>), "That said it's funny some games can't even meet these requirements if they wanted to. You can't exactly achieve diversity in a puzzle game like say Tetris or a racing game like Need for Speed."<br><br>Pff..Amateur. <br>All blocks of different colour have to be of equal numbers. Muscle cars are racists and we need as much blacks cars as white cars.,(reply>), @TrumpWon HereistheevidenceDotcom Seems to be the thing to do these days in Hollywood. All the sudden every female actress is Bi for some reason....,(reply>), Honestly I'm just gonna tell people i have the alphabet bug so I can get free gibmedats, seems silly not to do so these days.,(reply>), Devs: " you are gae "<br><br>Worker: " Who said i"m gae? "<br><br>Devs: " We need gae " |
At first it was heritage and social standing, then religion, then science/witchcraft, alchemy followed, somewhere in all this is disease, then race became the big problem, territory and resources, politics: is slavery bad(?), television and other new inventions seemed devilish (science again), politics: is racism bad(?), then I believe games of all kind became the devil, economic model (capitalism vs communism), we witnessed the sun on earth twice, the internet refreshed that games are the devil, terrorism, and now we're back to... and you guessed it! Politics in games.<br>In summary: politics ruins that which is suppose to unite people.<br>The other ones didn't unify people, or not in the sense that games do |
Only good thing I heard was the "mentorship program". Its hard enough getting/finding internships in STEM. Any addition of training or mentorship would be great. Doesn't mean you have to hire ppl if you don't have space for a hire. But, if newbies can get a couple notches in their belt. Plus the mentor gets help with work, its win win. Most of everything else on that list sounds like over reach at best. |
So like 99.9% of existing video games won’t enter the BAFTA awards. |
Thus reeds like a teacher a signing a paper to high schoolers. |
And they’ve shown how no one really cares about this shit. Get that out of my face |
And we want these awards because....why exactly? |
what is this year |
100% of the characters in Mario are plumbers, this is clearly discrimination against non plumbers |
A truly creative game developer would utilize declaring never being nominated for BAFTA as like a badge of honor,(reply>), Who even need this stupid award?!,(reply>), I wanna see it like thrown up there the same way movies brag about "Oscar for best Picture" they would have one of those texts on the screen "Never nominated for a BAFTA",(reply>), I could see the Postal dev's doing that |
What a Crunchry |
Why do LGBT get a bigger representation then deaf people? That's discrimination |
So I guess this might force british or american game developers to make games about, I don't know the unification wars of Germany or Italy?<br>Yea doubt that, they most likely mean games about non-white protagonists or settings. |
The token agenda awards. Where if you aren't actively an activist for what they want you and your game don't matter. This is sadly what mainstream media surrounding a lot of entertainment industries is these days. The things they cover don't matter, only how much those things suck the metaphorical dick of their cause.<br><br>But honestly I really feel tokenism is more damaging to minorities than anything. It strips the person of their personhood and makes them a statistic that is added to be praised for how progressive it is to do so. |
The only "awards" game Maker's need to try for are <br>1 MOST SALES<br>3 HIGHEST PROFITS |
Who is bafta, and why should I care? |
We play games to ESCAPE from the real world you BAFTA idiots! |
No one cares about these awards they are for the mainstream gamers now look at users reviews and trusted youtubers |
So basically, if any devs decide to pursue this "award" we can write off the title. Nice to know that there is now a badge to show games that must be avoided |
Yes, you have great skills, but... sorry, we hire only based on sex, skin colour and who you like to sleep with, to fight sexism, racism and discrimination! Skills? No one cares about that anyway. We just re-use old stuff and make it “woke”. Our motto is “make cash from idiots”. |
To be fair not much is tenable there’s only one number and a few words that are tenable |
Not only is this completely psychotic, how are you supposed to employ LGBTQ+ ? Do these people put this information in their damn resume? |
Woke Capitalism is a bane on civilization |
I don't know who is the imbecile who wrote this guide, but they so detached from reality, that they might as well live in an alternate universe. |
Don't tell me what I can and can't do with the video games I make |
If somebody told Picasso how to paint, then he would never be famous. |
Hiring in order to fulfill these requirements is directly against the law. You're not even allowed to ask an applicant what their LGBTQ status is or most other of these statuses and none of them are supposed to be allowed to be a hiring criteria. |
I wonder if the 50/50 split will be extended to their own staff. If you Google 'BAFTA staff' the vast majority of executives are women.<br><br>All stunning and brave of course.,(reply>), So is like watching Abby with different skins. |
And Bafta just killed themselves. Well done. |
This is some heavy brain damage shit. |
What if I make a game that's about robots? Do have too label their gender, ethnicity, or sexual orientation? How do I do that? |
I can think of 30-40 games that would meet the "standard A". None of these are big budget triple-A things... and most of them had very small development (often single person) teams, so the "standard B" would not be possible to fulfil.<br>BTW, if you want to check out actually good game that might fit the "community engagement" standard, check out "Never Alone (Kisima Ingitchuna)" on Steam. Worth a try; it's a game based on Inuit folklore. |
this is insane |
Bafta is brain dead I mean that literally. |
LOL pretty sure no one gonna care about this award anymore. Bafta?... More like BS |
@Upper Echelon Gamers Ok bro. The first time I saw you sponsored by these guys, I was like ."Yeah ok fair enough. Little weird considering the content you cover but ok fair enough." but this advertisement is just. . so disingenuous it's kind of insane. The major point I take issue with is this "You buy the game and all the content and all the updates from there forward are yours" This is just not true. There is content, yes content hidden behind paywall. Content like, auto looting the ability to not look like a tree in end game gear! Tents! Quality of life things that are standard in every other mmo, these guys hide behind a paywall. The game is extremely pay2win and this massive amount of content you keep claiming is actually very shallow if you actually look into it. If you are going to be sponsored by these guys, at least. . AT THE VERY LEAST stop painting it in such a rosey hue. You really need to do a full review on this game so people know what they are getting into. Fifteen minutes of research reveals just how pay2win the game is, how shit the publisher is and how the developers treat it's NA/EU player base like second class citizens. <br><br>Get your cheese bro, not telling you not too but at least be honest about what the game is and at least share the cons with your viewers. |
anyone care to take a stab at what may have happened to the last Advanced civvies....? |
Sooo you can't make a game with one charachter who is a robot? Baisicly the Portal is intolerant. |
Who funds thems, its time too stop funding them. |
Feudal Europe is the example, but lets just go out and say it. Witcher 3 would be ineligible for a BAFTA based on its game play if using these requirements. Too many white people in game. The same issue Netflix had with it. |
Why do we care about BAFTA? |
So, no one wins a BAFTA award. Got it. |
"50/50 gender balance"<br>But what if you want to include AIs or a gender non-binary species or represent that biological sex is in many ways more of a spectrum than a strict binary.<br><br>Edit: looking at the other categories BAFTA really must hate high sci-fi or anything with out humans. Like how do you have "underrepresented ethnic groups" without humanity. You just throw a Philippino in or something? And who's defining underrepresented, like can I make a game about Soviet politics in a realistic light and place it in Eastern Europe with the underrepresented and unstereotyped people being politicians and groups like the Roma, Serbs, Checs, etc. or is it the fact that they can't be white even though Eastern Europe especially the Balkins has diverse ethnic groups even though they're all white.<br><br>Edit 2: what about games developed by a single person or small team, like if Undertale was released now would they say, "you can't receive any awards because you didn't have enough representation." since it was developed by Toby Fox, a person that (I think) looks kinda Asian, and Temmie Chang, who is definitely Asian.<br><br>also I guess 2hu 17 ain't winning anything with it's 100% female ratio... |
Awards ceremonies are no longer solely about recognition of a quality entertainment product. They're there entirely to drive marketing & politics now. Nobody with even half a brain trusts them anymore. |
When this all done and went to ashes, we have to built everything up again. 😤 sane people have to clean up they shit again. |
Time for coma patients to judge GYMNASTICS WORLD LEAGUES! |
Well, I agree with them to the extent, that a game about a developed nation set in like 2000 or later should have LGBTQ characters because they just exist and everyone knows it. But a game set before that? They were no openly gay people in almost all societies of the past. It simply wasn't a thing so how would forcing developers to include characters that wouldn't possibly have existed this way and portraying them as if they belong there be good? |
the only thing that will do is change the award into a warning sign. |
If I owned a game company I would make it policy to have nothing to do these crazy people. |
this should be considered a MEME award to serious game developers. and let it be known as |
Remember when the gays were "only asking for tolerance"?<br>Guess, what is coming up next: MANDATORY PARTICIPATION!,(reply>), @John Blaze gosh that sounded hateful. You know gays are people too, and its ok to "have them in your life"? I'm straight but had gay friends and coworkers who were awesome people. What make you say "stay out of our life or its war"?,(reply>), It seems like all the replies kinda missed the joke, lol,(reply>), @G Balfour I'm NOT gay and all I want is for you to stay out of my life and that of those I love. Do that and we'll get along great, refuse and it's war.,(reply>), @G Balfour I would consider myself a decent programmer. But to borrow from a much longer comment I posted, I'm a C++ programmer, not an LGBTQ+ programmer.,(reply>), @G Balfour well said. It would also be nice if we didn't have to play 20 questions every time someone finds out about our sexuality. I'm pan and if I had a dollar for Everytime I got asked a bunch of super not work appropriate questions when someone learned I was pan I could afford to hire a lawyer for a hostile work environment lawsuit. |
I guess hollow knight and undertale wouldnt have been up for awards then. |
In before the first bafta winner has a main character with gay body part who is straight and half caucasian half latino half walrus and is also sexually attracted to the last remaining member of an amazonian tribe who identifies as a west african crocodile. All while living in Nova Scotia! |
TLDR: Quotas are dumb.<br>EDIT: There won't be many games in that award show, lol..<br><br>These people do not care about art or quality. They care about propaganda. |
This is some insane stuff |
Didn’t you hear? Lacking common sense is the going trend lately |
This is what happens when you're allowed to do "virtue washing" for years on your historical characters. UK has had a bad habit of doing that on television and movies. Their taking it farther and I'm definitely not going to take them seriously. Especially after what happened to Doctor Who.,(reply>), Mary Queen of Scots! |
"<b>headdesks repeatedly</b> This world is so dissapointing. <a href=""https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw9lmEp7Q6E&t=7m42s"">7:42</a> and it only. gets. worse!<br>.... the most dissapointing thing i just know people will push for this across every already useless award", and those look goodo n gameboxes because people don't judge on merit enough as it is. this shit just feeds in on itself... |
This is one of the reasons why LGBTQ will get hated for. And that is something people should discourage or even remotely think about shoving shit down people's throats. |
the only things i care abt b4 buying are steam reviews or ppl i trust like u .....by the way u made me play POE ty for tat :) |
As moronic as this is, nobody cares about those kind of awards anyway. No gamer at least.<br>I'm looking forward to people checking all nominees against those requirements. 😂 |
They pulled this document out of a feminist ass literally |
I never watched award shows anyway. Its all BS anyway. |
the contestors are going to be near zero |
BAFTA, I respect your decision but please take your woke, unimaginative and illogical drivel of a future Award Show out of my reality.<br><br>Thank you...<br><br><br>Once you set a bar too high for everyone except yourself, good luck convincing anyone that you rightfully earned the right to win.. |
This is amazing. Basically a game award show for which games to avoid, lol. |
Can I just say, that if I applied for a job and an interview question was about whether I am gay or straight I would refuse to answer...because its implied they would have to ask to meet these required diversity metrics. Wtf does being gay or straight have to do with my ability??,(reply>), In the US it is not legal to ask someone that question. |
Soooo. Just a hijack award thing. It will be irrelevant after a year or 2. Happens from time to time. There is a Progressive book award. That got hijack by Alt rights. A few year ago. Now they give to to books with the dumbest premises / name. Like... Pound it in my butt by my own butt... Now no one care in that progressive community care about that award. Its a joke now.,(reply>), Zid96 every organization is getting hijacked by “activist” type groups because a large majority of older people (ie, old white businessmen) see the word “activism” and go “oh! They’re activists! they must be perfectly good angels!”. Today’s “activist” groups are literally Trojan horses that are being used to hijack originations and then kick out those who are deemed “racist”. It’s like it was taken out of the Communist war plans from the beginning of WWII |
It's actually good for us. Almost no games will win any BAFTA, and even if one wins, we know that we should not waste a single dollar on that game. |
is this for a specific award category or across the board for all awards? |
In other words, another organization shoves identity politics and socio-political themes down out throats. Great. 🙄🙄 |
ok, so from now on, we will just have to avoid buying Game Of The Year contenders. |
At this point, I'm convinced that we're in the Twilight Zone. |
Like none of us saw this coming? C'mon. |
Achtung!!! If you vant ze avard you has to do evising i say!!! Believe vhat I believe!! Unshlagan!!! |
Last time I was this early; Agenda pushing just to win an award wasn't part of anything. Let alone gaming. |
What if your game isn't about people? You're screwed?,(reply>), @Dragon Del Sur you put a tag at the end that says 'BLM' and you'll get a metric tonne of awards 🤣,(reply>), You play as a floating camera in first person with nothing but black for 6 hours. I guess that can't win the award. |
Ah, the shift from descriptive to proscriptive. |
FYI a game set in Feudal Europe could very well feature conscripted peasants among the troops. thus I find it highly offensive that you take for granted that troops in feudal Europe couldn't be of a lower socioeconomic background, have you even heard of the term cannon fodder?!?!<br>As for BAFTA I also find their term "50-50 gender balance" offensive as that would suggest that there are only two genders!!!!<br><br>Yes our feudal Europe war game features plenty of lower socioeconomic background characters, as you can see these guys don't sport proper armor as they're not worthy of keeping alive, this guy even has a scythe instead of a proper weapon, surely this guy can't be anything else than a peasant. <br>Yes our Anime Waifu game has a 50-50 gender balance, half of the cast are clearly cat-girl waifus and the other half are human waifus, a perfect 50-50 split between human- and cat- waifus. |
Far-left ideology politics infects another host body, the cancer spreads at an alarming rate.,(reply>), Apoc5k it’s at stage 4 cancer levels now. It’s terminal. |
How do these people not understand how unsustainable these standards are?? |
I didn't think you were allowed to ask someone looking for a job about their sexual preference and yet these qualifications demand it being part of the requirement? |
Lmao imagine playing a game that fit under every single one of their guidelines,(reply>), @glyn hodges thanks, i want to double-die even more now, A+ 7/10 |
If you are in the pride/blm/antifa demographic, make a good game that players want to play, don't co-opt the creativity of others to depict the world the way you would like it to be. |
Does anyone even care about game awards? What are they even for? To put an accolade on the boxart for the definitive edition? <br><br>Also... please stop peddling free to play "games". |
You said 'some ppl might not believe you' however I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you don't seem like the type of person to speak about something with nothing behind it lol. Just sayin' |
Section B - what if we talking about small indie team with, I don´t know, three people? Good luck to meet the statistics requirement...<br>It´s gonna be fun to watch this show - how many teams and games will actually be able to jump thru all those loops and get some price. My guess? Maybe two games and they get all prices, because to whom else BAFTA can give them? :D |
Honestly, who even cares about Bafta awards? |
I think BAFTA is vastly over estimating its own importance. <br>The trophy is nothing more than a glorified bookend for some publishing executive to give them some false sense of accomplishment. |
How amusing, the activists are so bad at writing that not only they are forcing creative people to shoehorn diversity characters in games, but they also have to make it belieavable (something they always fail to do...). Jesus after all this time infecting every branch of entertainment with their "religion" one would think they would finally have gotten how to make a belieavable diversity character themselves "for the cause" instead of having to force other people's hands to do their job. |
So BAFTA is a communist propaganda award now. Got it. |
BDO... One time payment :D |
It's always fascinating how these people loudly and annoyingly complain about facism and racism while being and calling for implementation of racism and facism.<br>"You worked for making you the best of the group? Sorry, you do not check enough items in this non-related-to-the-job checkbox list so you are out, bigot." |
You must keep rambling, as you are one of a few YouTube gamers that has the integrity to call out bullshit when they see it. I’ve been following the downfall of the global child eating monsters (Cabal, NWO, whatever the f**k you want to call them) and seeing my beloved Hollywood implode is deeply satisfying. I’ve wept enough tears over my industry idols; and now my tears are for the Heather O’Rourke’s of the industry instead of the monsters like Spielberg 🤬 Sorry I’ve digressed, the fact is the the entire gaming industry is under the same sick twisted control and The Last of Us 2 and this BAFTA bullshit will be allowed to continue until we wake up and say f**k this. WWG1WGA 😠😔🙏🏿💜 |
I am getting sick and tired of actual BIGOTS dictating EVERYTHING with their bullshit AUTHORITARIAN and ideological FALLACY. |